No WHDH in R.I. with dedicated large VHF that showed a snowy analog 7.
Analog Boston UHF stations with way more snow lock in fine with digital. Lower band VHF not good for DTV.
Back to channel 10 with the lipsync problems. :(
Regarding WHDH-DT signal issues:

Ch 7's Larry Weil explains

http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2009-June/021140.html

>>only half of the transmitter has been
installed. Only after the old Larcan analog transmitter is removed
can the other half of the Harris DTV transmitter be installed.

:)WJAR-Dt must have increased its power and raised its antenna height in Rehoboth early, because as of yesterday night a friend of mine in Melrose, MA (6 miles north of Boston) started getting the signal, and it comes in fairly strong using the Antennas Direct DB4 (which I installed). Even more surprising is that they now get WLNE-DT very well too, and the station never announced that they were going to increase their power and height. :eek: Both stations never could be received there, and for that matter had weak to no signals most places north of Route 128. Still no sign of WPRi-DT, WNAC-DT, WLWC-Dt, or WSBE-Dt.

It seems that every weekend, I can not get the HD channels offered by COX. I have the TV, I have the box, I have the service but more often than not I get the "temporarily off air, please try back later". Very frustrating. I really only want to watch/dvr a couple of programs but end up doing it on the digital channel so that I at least get the show.

What's up with that?

It seems that every weekend, I can not get the HD channels offered by COX. I have the TV, I have the box, I have the service but more often than not I get the "temporarily off air, please try back later". Very frustrating. I really only want to watch/dvr a couple of programs but end up doing it on the digital channel so that I at least get the show.

What's up with that?

Have you called Cox? Could be a hardware problem?

It seems that every weekend, I can not get the HD channels offered by COX. I have the TV, I have the box, I have the service but more often than not I get the "temporarily off air, please try back later". Very frustrating. I really only want to watch/dvr a couple of programs but end up doing it on the digital channel so that I at least get the show.

What's up with that?

Sounds like a possible signal strength issue, I would call Cox for a roll out to check the signal levels at your house and or at the connection coming to your TV. If you have splitters make sure that they are the correct ones. Either way I would call Cox for a roll out to test your connections.

I have a UHF antenna now and have lost ch7 out of Boston since the June 16th switchover. Losing ch7 forces me to watch ch10 for NBC, and it's almost unwatchable because of the lip-sync issues.

Why is the audio so off on ch10??

:)WJAR-Dt must have increased its power and raised its antenna height in Rehoboth early, because as of yesterday night a friend of mine in Melrose, MA (6 miles north of Boston) started getting the signal, and it comes in fairly strong using the Antennas Direct DB4 (which I installed). Even more surprising is that they now get WLNE-DT very well too, and the station never announced that they were going to increase their power and height. :eek: Both stations never could be received there, and for that matter had weak to no signals most places north of Route 128. Still no sign of WPRi-DT, WNAC-DT, WLWC-Dt, or WSBE-Dt.

WLNE-DT has not increased power or made any changes whatsoever. According to signal plots of the signal, WLNE-DT should be able to be seen as far north as Waltham barring any obstructions with a good high UHF antenna. Maybe the weather was good for signal propagation?

Regarding WHDH-DT signal issues:

Ch 7's Larry Weil explains

http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2009-June/021140.html

>>only half of the transmitter has been
installed. Only after the old Larcan analog transmitter is removed
can the other half of the Harris DTV transmitter be installed.

Larry posted again yesterday saying that the original post about only half of the new channel 7 transmitter being online was false.

http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2009-June/021178.html

Larry posted again yesterday saying that the original post about only half of the new channel 7 transmitter being online was false.

http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2009-June/021178.html
Larry W. forwards an email: Ch 7 is simulcasting now on Ch 42 (so, rescan) More at link below

http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2009-June/021194.html

:)WJAR-Dt must have increased its power and raised its antenna height in Rehoboth early, because as of yesterday night a friend of mine in Melrose, MA (6 miles north of Boston) started getting the signal, and it comes in fairly strong using the Antennas Direct DB4 (which I installed). Even more surprising is that they now get WLNE-DT very well too, and the station never announced that they were going to increase their power and height. :eek: Both stations never could be received there, and for that matter had weak to no signals most places north of Route 128. Still no sign of WPRi-DT, WNAC-DT, WLWC-Dt, or WSBE-Dt.

WJAR was running PSA's indicating that it going to increase power to improve signal. They said it would be done by June 12. The FCC filing shows a modification request to raise power slightly and move the antenna up about 27 meters. I am not seeing much change here though. WJARengineer used to post here maybe he could answer better.
WPRI and WNAC are on VHF channels so your DB4 will not be very effective for them.
John

The tower crew that is installing our new top mount antenna arrived today they were running a few weeks behind schedule due to the change of the digital transition date. They say it should take two weeks to complete the installation weather permitting.
A few notes WLNE will not be transmitting from this antenna they will stay on the exsiting side mount antenna this antenna is just for us. We will also be making a minor upward change in power output.
We are working on the lip-sync problems with NBC HD sorry about this problem it is taking us longer to get fixed than it should.

Mark

Mark,
Thanks for the information. Let us know when it is completed and I will see what difference it makes here. Will the new antenna have the same directional pattern as the old one? Also suprised that WLNE is staying on the lower antenna.
John

Mark,
Thanks for the information. Let us know when it is completed and I will see what difference it makes here. Will the new antenna have the same directional pattern as the old one? Also suprised that WLNE is staying on the lower antenna.
John
I'd like to see WJAR's new antenna with the increased power output lessen its sharp signal null to the northeast so that viewers in the adjacent Boston market who lost the signal pick it up again. The Boston OTA board has several posters who are surprized they cannot get WJAR (and several other Providence stations) even though most of the Boston market is less than 40 miles away from the Rehoboth towers. I don' know why the station (and WLNE to a slightly lesser extent) has to null its signal in that direction. Many Boston area viewers got the analog signals of the Providence stations very well, but very weak to nonexistent in digital. For comparison, Boston's stations don't have a sharp null toward the Providence market andcan easily be received. It makes no sense. There's already something called cable and satellite restricting adjacent market signals - why restrict OTA viewers, too?

I'd like to see WJAR's new antenna with the increased power output lessen its sharp signal null to the northeast so that viewers in the adjacent Boston market who lost the signal pick it up again. The Boston OTA board has several posters who are surprized they cannot get WJAR (and several other Providence stations) even though most of the Boston market is less than 40 miles away from the Rehoboth towers. I don' know why the station (and WLNE to a slightly lesser extent) has to null its signal in that direction. Many Boston area viewers got the analog signals of the Providence stations very well, but very weak to nonexistent in digital. For comparison, Boston's stations don't have a sharp null toward the Providence market andcan easily be received. It makes no sense. There's already something called cable and satellite restricting adjacent market signals - why restrict OTA viewers, too?

There are two possibilities in my mind as to why the null exists. The first reason is due to the nature of antenna gain. Antennas increase gain by making the signal more directional. Most of the gain in a television transmitter antenna is produced by limiting the signal output in the vertical plane, that is to say sending less signal into space and toward the ground, and directing it toward the horizontal plane instead. The antenna engineers may have decided to put the signal null to the northeast to boost it's power to the south and west to more effectively cover their DMA.

The second reason I can think of is that the side-mount antenna is mounted on the southwest side of the tower. The null may be designed to eliminate power towards the tower itself, or may be caused by the tower itself.

The FCC filing for the new antenna shows a similar beampattern. Both had what I would consider small nulls generally in the Northeast. The old antenna was down about 7 dB and the new on is down about 6 dB, if I am reading them correctly. This is much less of a null than I had from WNAC on channel 54 which was in the 15 to 20 dB level. It was not easy but I could receive it here 50 miles away.
They WJAR nulls may be required to prevent interference with some other channel 51 station.

John

Mark can explain it more, but as I understand it, WJAR and WLNE's antennas are directionalized to focus more power over their core market of Rhode Island.

WNAC-DT's 54 null was protecting WEDN on 53. (We even had to run the exciter as N+1 on 54 due to WEDN).

WSBE-DT 21's power limitation and very sharp null is against WLWC-DT on 22.

Strange that they made you protect channel 53 when WHPX wiped out two Hartford adajacent network channels here. Also there seems to be lots of cochannel interference both before and after the digital transition. Now WNAC is about the strongest thing I get from Providence.
John

The difference is, that's digtial-digital. We were digital-analog.
There are many examples of DT's protecting analogs
(i.e. WFXT-DT protecting WNNE)

I've been seeing FIOS trucks all over Bristol and Newport counties in RI, yet the Verizon web site still lists the service as being unavailable in those areas. Does anyone have any information on when FIOS may go live in either of those areas?

I've been seeing FIOS trucks all over Bristol and Newport counties in RI, yet the Verizon web site still lists the service as being unavailable in those areas. Does anyone have any information on when FIOS may go live in either of those areas?

I havent heard anything in a long time about the development of FIOS in South County. While I hate to send you elsewhere, since there is no real FIOS new here I have no choice. I would head over to Dslreports as they have FIOS dedicated forums and you will probably get a better answer over there.

Has anyone had trouble getting WMFP-DT 18 and WUNI-DT 29 OTA since the weekend? Seems like the station is either very weak or cannot get a signal since then. Maybe the stations are working on their transmitters?

MSNBC HD is launching tomorrow... this is one of the few SD channels I still watch with any regularity.

Looks like Cablevision (irrelevant to RI) and Verizon (very relevant competition) are planning to launch it very quickly.

Insofar as we have all the other NBC-Universal channels, I would think it would be easy contractually, much like the Planet Green HD launch.

Wondering if there's any news or teasers on the front... if Eric is listening. :)

TMC has gone HD, any word as to when it might arrive?

MSNBC HD is launching tomorrow... this is one of the few SD channels I still watch with any regularity.

Looks like Cablevision (irrelevant to RI) and Verizon (very relevant competition) are planning to launch it very quickly.

Insofar as we have all the other NBC-Universal channels, I would think it would be easy contractually, much like the Planet Green HD launch.

Wondering if there's any news or teasers on the front... if Eric is listening. :)

TMC has gone HD, any word as to when it might arrive?

NBA HD is still on the immediate horizon. I haven't yet heard anything regarding MSNBC or TMC, but our plan is to continue to free up bandwidth to increase our number of HD channels. When I hear anything about either of these, you'll be the first to know.

NBA HD is still on the immediate horizon. I haven't yet heard anything regarding MSNBC or TMC, but our plan is to continue to free up bandwidth to increase our number of HD channels. When I hear anything about either of these, you'll be the first to know.

thanks
I hate cox for this we wait and wait I love to see TWC and MSNBC and WGN supper station but I won't hold my breath for it
what about twc or multi room dvr or tivo or the new INTERNET service 50 MB or new cable guide

Has anyone had trouble getting WMFP-DT 18 and WUNI-DT 29 OTA since the weekend? Seems like the station is either very weak or cannot get a signal since then. Maybe the stations are working on their transmitters?
According to the station, WUNI-DT is on very low power until the beginning of July due to transmitter repairs. Still no sign of WMFP-DT.

NBA HD is still on the immediate horizon. I haven't yet heard anything regarding MSNBC or TMC, but our plan is to continue to free up bandwidth to increase our number of HD channels. When I hear anything about either of these, you'll be the first to know.


Any word on The Weather Channel HD?

Also any word why the cable signal drops when the power fails?
Do the nodes not have a battery backup? I know the Comcast plant in Agawam would remain on during a power outage, I am thinking the power supplies all had batteries in them.

Noticed this both at our studio in East Providence and my residence in Riverside.

Any word on The Weather Channel HD?

Also any word why the cable signal drops when the power fails?
Do the nodes not have a battery backup? I know the Comcast plant in Agawam would remain on during a power outage, I am thinking the power supplies all had batteries in them.

Noticed this both at our studio in East Providence and my residence in Riverside.

You are not going to see TWC until they start broadcasting local on the 8's in HD. This was pretty much said by Amy a long while back.

As far as the cable signal issue you may need to be more specific....Do you have a generator at your house in East Providence? If not then how can you be sure the cable signal is dropping without having power to the TV....

I know when I used to work for Cox a long time ago, even when there were power outages Cox was still going. This of course was only if there were no down cables\poles\ect. in the area which might lead to outages.

Any word on The Weather Channel HD?I've had the Weather Channel HD since it was launched - via DirecTV. Initially it was horrible ... the audio was way out of sync and there were other technical issues. But they cleaned it up and it was great: especially the new studios and wide shots. But IMO it has really gone downhill over the last few months ... now they have computer generated images on the left hand side and have reduced the camera shot significantly. That coupled with how many hours a day they don't have weather but instead Storm Stories et al - I now look towards local stations that have local weather on their digital subchannels.

Anyone know why, having COX Basic connected directly to TV (no box, no antenna), my tuner is not picking up the local HD stations consistently. After numerous autoscans, 75% of the time I won't get any local HD stations. The other 25% of the time I'll get 2 or 3 out of the 5 HD stations (2-1, 6-1, 10-1, 12-1, 64-1) and not always the same 2 or 3 ! This has happened only recently, and was working fine for over a year ? Thanks for listening, and I'd appreciate any info on this subject...

I posted earlier about the same situation but I wasn't as clear as I should have been. What happens to me, with a Cox DVR box is that I'll get the "free" HD channels, more times than not the video and audio cuts in and out so I am forced to watch the SD channels. Other times the HD channels, including Showtime and HBO, display a blue cox screen that says "temporarily off air" please try back later.

Anyone know why, having COX Basic connected directly to TV (no box, no antenna), my tuner is not picking up the local HD stations consistently. After numerous autoscans, 75% of the time I won't get any local HD stations. The other 25% of the time I'll get 2 or 3 out of the 5 HD stations (2-1, 6-1, 10-1, 12-1, 64-1) and not always the same 2 or 3 ! This has happened only recently, and was working fine for over a year ? Thanks for listening, and I'd appreciate any info on this subject...

Yes I did read your post. The problem you describe, I believe, is a bit different from what I'm experiencing, although equally as frustrating. I think this forum is my last hope, as COX customer support won't even admit to me that they provide HD channels over basic cable (i.e. w/o a box)....

I posted earlier about the same situation but I wasn't as clear as I should have been. What happens to me, with a Cox DVR box is that I'll get the "free" HD channels, more times than not the video and audio cuts in and out so I am forced to watch the SD channels. Other times the HD channels, including Showtime and HBO, display a blue cox screen that says "temporarily off air" please try back later.

Yes I did read your post. The problem you describe, I believe, is a bit different from what I'm experiencing, although equally as frustrating. I think this forum is my last hope, as COX customer support won't even admit to me that they provide HD channels over basic cable (i.e. w/o a box)....

These types of issues are usually related to a signal level issue or some type os interference occuring either fromt he poll to the house or somewhere inside. I would call Cox and ask for a roll out. If you dont have the Service Assurance plan I would add it so that if they do find the problem resides in your house the truck roll will cost you nothing (besides the monthly fee).

As far as the cable signal issue you may need to be more specific....Do you have a generator at your house in East Providence? If not then how can you be sure the cable signal is dropping without having power to the TV....


Well if you noticed in my post, I mentioned both here and at work.
At work, we do have backup UPS and generators.

At home, strictly UPS which feeds cable modem.

A month or so ago, we lost power in the middle of the daytime while at work, the backup generators fired up, however the cable plant feeding the building was gone. (The building is on a mains- generator. So there is no section without power while on generator).

Last Wednesday, power out at my house. I went to shut down the PC, had no internet connectivity, the cable modem indicated it had no signal.

So yes I do have backups to be able to tell this...
Now I am close enough to work that both my house and work are possibly on the same Node. I don't know, I haven't bothered to ask.
I'll ask the head-end about it later today when i go into work.

Hi All Hope All Are Well . I Just Wanted to Post This Quick Note That the On-deamnd Menu has Changed. For Exp. the Cassics Movies are in the main Menu now. You No longer have to go into the Movies On demand Menu and Freezone HD in Now in the Main Menu as Well thire is Also a New service called Faith & famly Movies All the Movies are Free. and on-deamnd Finaly Changed WWE 24/7 to WWE Claassics .


Have a Good Day All & Keep Well
Matt:)

Well if you noticed in my post, I mentioned both here and at work.
At work, we do have backup UPS and generators.

At home, strictly UPS which feeds cable modem.

A month or so ago, we lost power in the middle of the daytime while at work, the backup generators fired up, however the cable plant feeding the building was gone. (The building is on a mains- generator. So there is no section without power while on generator).

Last Wednesday, power out at my house. I went to shut down the PC, had no internet connectivity, the cable modem indicated it had no signal.

So yes I do have backups to be able to tell this...
Now I am close enough to work that both my house and work are possibly on the same Node. I don't know, I haven't bothered to ask.
I'll ask the head-end about it later today when i go into work.

This is most likely something you would want to call in and report since you can verify it at two different locations which are most likely within the same node. Cable service should not be interrupted unless there is a main cable down, or something more drastic as Cox still has to provide phone service during these power outages (one of the selling points of their Modems with battery backups).

If you do loose signal it should not be for an extended period of time either. At least when I worked for Cox the only time they would credit your service would be when you service was out for 24+ hours. As we all know outages do happen for time to time for various reasons, but if you can link the two you may want to "send it on up the ladder" to see what the response is. If calling doesnt work PM the Cox rep here to see if they can get anything done or get any sort of reply.

hi
anyone now anything new onscreen cable guide? supposed to be coming in the late summer? anything on more HD or faster internet speeds? or DVRS with Bigger Harddrives? Am running out of room with BIG BROTHER 11 lol
thanks for any updates

Hi All Hope All Are Well . I Just Wanted to Post This Quick Note That the On-deamnd Menu has Changed. For Exp. the Cassics Movies are in the main Menu now. You No longer have to go into the Movies On demand Menu and Freezone HD in Now in the Main Menu as Well thire is Also a New service called Faith & famly Movies All the Movies are Free. and on-deamnd Finaly Changed WWE 24/7 to WWE Claassics .
Matt:)

Can you talk normally so that folks can understand what you're trying to say?
Or does it always come out like this??
:mad:

Can you talk normally so that folks can understand what you're trying to say?
Or does it always come out like this??
:mad:

It's Just the Way It Comes Out I Can't Help it :)

Hi Folks. Just Wanted To tell evreyone That Cox On-Demand Is Getting A Face Lift. in the Next Few Weeks . I Just Got Of The Phone With Cox About a Problem With On-demand. And The Cox Rep. Told me That On-Deamand Is Getting a Face Lift. The Rep. Also Told Me That Sometime In The Fall Between Oct. & Dec of this Year. Cox Is Looking to Upgrade The Guide & the Newer Boxes. With Bigger hard drives Will Be Out But For now. Cox Is Just Working on The On-Demand Upgrade . The Rep Said we all should Be Getting Notcies soon About the On-Demand Upgrade.

Thanks
Matt:)

I read a while ago that WJAR, WPRI, WNAC,and WLNE were requesting power increases or antenna height increases to the FCC. Anyone heard about when and if they are talking place?

WJAR-DT must now be on the new antenna. I'm now receiving them quite strong with my channel master 4228 antenna, and Insignia converter box.

Before today, they would not even decode at all here in Hanson, MA. Hanson is probably directly behind where the other antenna is mounted, so obviously that is no longer a problem with the antenna now on top. This is definitely not just due to conditions, because WSBE and WLNE are still the same, not decoding at all.

WJAR-DT must now be on the new antenna. I'm now receiving them quite strong with my channel master 4228 antenna, and Insignia converter box.

Before today, they would not even decode at all here in Hanson, MA. Hanson is probably directly behind where the other antenna is mounted, so obviously that is no longer a problem with the antenna now on top. This is definitely not just due to conditions, because WSBE and WLNE are still the same, not decoding at all.
WJAR's new antenna according to their website is to go into operation on July 20th, but I'll take your word fr it, they may have started using the new antenna early. There has been no change from my location in Pawtucket - a strong signal as usual, but I notice WLNE has gotten a bit stronger lately, from my location WJAR and WLNE have the same signal strength. I'm surprized you cannot decode WLNE, according to tvfool.com, in Hanson (the downtown), it gives off an effective radiated power of 63 kw, which should still be enough to decode, but WJAR gives off an ERP of 254kw. Both stations, located only 26 miles from Hanson, don't give their full power in that direction, but should be recievable. I have a 4221 (4 bay) and it is a powerful antenna, and the 4228 is the 8 bay version of that. You might want to try to raise your antenna height, and/or add an amplifier if you don't have one to get more of the Providence stations. For the record,
as far as the other area Providence stations, WPRI and WNAC give off 30 kw (their full power) in Hanson, WLWC (located in Freetown) gives off 394 kw, and WSBE gives off only 7 kw in that direction (out of 50 total), so you may have trouble getting that weak signal.

Hi all...I'm a new member to the forum from Burrillville, though I've been reading it for a while. Lots of good info here!

I was wondering if anyone has any updates about Channel 10's audio/video sync issues on it's network HD broadcast. I have emailed them 3 times, as well as NBC, and have gotten no reply from anyone. It doesn't matter whether I watch OTA or Cox...both are badly out of sync and driving me insane. Any recent word on a fix for this? Thanks!

Hi Folks. Just Wanted To tell evreyone That Cox On-Demand Is Getting A Face Lift. in the Next Few Weeks . I Just Got Of The Phone With Cox About a Problem With On-demand. And The Cox Rep. Told me That On-Deamand Is Getting a Face Lift. The Rep. Also Told Me That Sometime In The Fall Between Oct. & Dec of this Year. Cox Is Looking to Upgrade The Guide & the Newer Boxes. With Bigger hard drives Will Be Out But For now. Cox Is Just Working on The On-Demand Upgrade . The Rep Said we all should Be Getting Notcies soon About the On-Demand Upgrade.

Thanks
Matt:)

No offense but what does this have to do with HDTV BROADCASTING in the Providence RI market? If Cox has a discussion board somewhere else on the net about their services and upgrades, this would be big news there I'm sure. But it has no place in this topic, even though most of the last 10 pages seem to be an endless discussion about their Caller ID and On-Demand services. :rolleyes:

Does anyone have any updates on WSBE? Their signal seems to be flaking out more and more as time goes on. I never used to have issues but last night (7/19) the signal was out completely.

Hi all...I'm a new member to the forum from Burrillville, though I've been reading it for a while. Lots of good info here!

I was wondering if anyone has any updates about Channel 10's audio/video sync issues on it's network HD broadcast. I have emailed them 3 times, as well as NBC, and have gotten no reply from anyone. It doesn't matter whether I watch OTA or Cox...both are badly out of sync and driving me insane. Any recent word on a fix for this? Thanks!

Completely agreed that it's irritating and it's been going on for months. Last we heard someone from WJAR said they were working on it...hopefully they'll get it corrected asap.

No offense but what does this have to do with HDTV BROADCASTING in the Providence RI market?Because Cox offers HD service in this area, including HD on demand.

Local HD topics include all local ways to get HDTV, including cable and DBS, not just over-the-air. Some larger TV markets have multiple local topics.

....even though most of the last 10 pages seem to be an endless discussion about their Caller ID and On-Demand services.Other cable or DBS subjects unrelated to HDTV can have limited discussion in local topics. If it gets to be too much, let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J79NBSWdQGU Hmmm does this mean WPRI is going HD soon?

That would be nice. I might actually watch local news then (instead of watching Boston).

SMK

Completely agreed that it's irritating and it's been going on for months. Last we heard someone from WJAR said they were working on it...hopefully they'll get it corrected asap.

It looks to me like they have finally fixed it. The problem hasn't been noticeable at all over the last couple of days...the NBC Nightly News and the Tonight Show don't look like an old Japanese movie anymore!

Cox CT forum reporting these channels being added Aug 12:

NBA TV HD 713
MSNBC HD 742
TMC HD 795
MoreMAX HD 796

RI usually gets the same channels CT gets around the same time. List sounds plausible... adding secondary premium channels in the 790 range... we were supposed to get NBA TV before but it was delayed. And MSNBC HD and TMC HD are popular requests.

Hello All:
With regard to WSBE - for past month or more - no reception here in South County. Are there any plans to increase power output? When station was available as 36.1 and 36.2 it gave us such pride to be represented with our own local PBS representative. Course I almost joined during one of their pledge drives - but that was before it became apparent station was going to speak w a muted ....voice. Are there plans to give a stronger signal? Or should I just get my head right - that free tv is only for those not transmitter deprived.
Barry

http://www.dpuc.state.ct.us/DPUCUndocketed.nsf/6e9beec82815c42f85256a61005a47fc/85256a63004def96852576010050fa5c/$FILE/Cox%20Communications%20notice%20of%20programming%20additions .PDF

New channel announcement for CT (citation for previous post)

The FCC's web site doesn't indicate that WSBE has applied to run any higher power.
John

According to the WJAR web site, WJAR's digital transmitter work is complete as of June 20 and the station is transmitting antenna is at the top of their tower with more power. Is anyone viewing TV over the air noticing any difference since June 20 with WJAR's signal, and for that matter, WLNE's signal, as they are also on WJAR's tower just slighhtly below WJAR's antenna? Here on the Pawtucket/Attleboro border, i do not notice any difference, and the signal level for both WJAR and WLNE are still equal (very strong).

WJAR has completed the installation of our new top mount antenna and we are radiating from it, WLNE will continue to radiate from the side mount antenna which we will use as a backup.

Mark

WJAR has completed the installation of our new top mount antenna and we are radiating from it, WLNE will continue to radiate from the side mount antenna which we will use as a backup.

Mark

Thanks Mark. What you didn't say is have you also increased power? I do not want to assume anything. I notice no difference in signal strength except on good tropo days. In fact I now get more bars on WNAC than WJAR so thinking they have increased their power to the max 30W.

Thanks Mark. What you didn't say is have you also increased power? I do not want to assume anything. I notice no difference in signal strength except on good tropo days. In fact I now get more bars on WNAC than WJAR so thinking they have increased their power to the max 30W.


Our power increase is minimal going from 974KW to 1000KW ERP.

Mark

The increase in height shows up here in their fringe area. Propagation was above average today but WJAR picked up a few dB over WLNE that it did not have in the past.
Mark did you put up a single channel antenna?
John

The increase in height shows up here in their fringe area. Propagation was above average today but WJAR picked up a few dB over WLNE that it did not have in the past.
Mark did you put up a single channel antenna?
John

John:

This is a Ch. 51 only antenna.

Mark

Cox CT forum reporting these channels being added Aug 12:

NBA TV HD 713
MSNBC HD 742
TMC HD 795
MoreMAX HD 796

RI usually gets the same channels CT gets around the same time. List sounds plausible... adding secondary premium channels in the 790 range... we were supposed to get NBA TV before but it was delayed. And MSNBC HD and TMC HD are popular requests.

I can confirm that those channels will be arriving on August 12. And yeah, NBA TV was delayed for higher level reasons that I'm privy to.

But be careful what you wish for - you'll now see at least several of these people (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080263/ns/msnbc_tv-about_msnbc_tv/)much more closely.

how
about discovery ID in HD I keep seeing ID now in HD
or The weather Channel in HD along with WGN Supperstation HD

I can confirm that those channels will be arriving on August 12. And yeah, NBA TV was delayed for higher level reasons that I'm privy to.

But be careful what you wish for - you'll now see at least several of these people (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080263/ns/msnbc_tv-about_msnbc_tv/)much more closely.

Thats Great news about the HD Channels on Aug 13th. do you happen to know when the on Demand is getting Upgraded ?
Thanks
Matt

I can confirm that those channels will be arriving on August 12. And yeah, NBA TV was delayed for higher level reasons that I'm privy to.

But be careful what you wish for - you'll now see at least several of these people (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080263/ns/msnbc_tv-about_msnbc_tv/)much more closely.

EJW_coxne
can you get THISTV for Rhode Island? WHDH Boston 7 has it can you please
see or send it to the higher ups and see if WHDH will let you get the THISTV allowed to be transmitted on cox i get here in Newport what a awsome channel CT getting in August
thanks

also anything on discovery ID in HD
and how about the Tivo interface you were going to release
thanks

The new channels are here as promised... of course I don't have any premiums and don't care about NBA...but MSNBC was about the only SD channel I still had to flip out of the 700 range for with some frequency.

Kudos to Cox New England for adding MSNBC HD so quickly after its launch. Now when can I buy an "HD only" plan?? :D

Really excellent question. Now that 99.9% of just about anything is available in HD, what are the rest of those other channels for? HD only plan would be great for a lot of people.

Really excellent question. Now that 99.9% of just about anything is available in HD, what are the rest of those other channels for? HD only plan would be great for a lot of people.

I'd actually pay almost the same as what I pay now for a plan that was just HD and OnDemand if it included all the HD channels, including the premium ones.

Rachel Maddow in high def i think im going to be sick now..thanks cox lol

WGN Supperstation coming to CT 82
HOPE ITS RI TOO I have been wating with baited breath I really don't care if its not HD
just give me ALF, IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT
its on the CT Public Utlities site

I JUST CALLED COX I sould not knock them
but had no info on wgn said it only for CT if its on the public utilites page go figure
was told no need RI has RTN yea the old repeats on awfull picture

also it person on the phone says he sees no call for it.is there any white sox fans on this board just wondering any white sox fan here in RI that would watch it

Must be something odd with the atmosphere because I can get WMTW Channel 8 (Portland ME) late at night quite well and have been for several days running -- down here on the coast in Wakefield RI.

I still have problems getting Channel 44 (Boston) but Channel 8 Portland comes in, at least after midnight!

WMTW
my favorite station What are you using indoor or outdoor
antenna please let me know ill give it a try

WMTW
my favorite station What are you using indoor or outdoor
antenna please let me know ill give it a try
The fact that you can receive WMTW is amazing considering that they are on ch 46 and WUVN- ch.18 Hartford, CT -is on ch.46 and you're a lot closer to Hartford, but then I've heard that many in Rhode Island have an easier time receiving stations in southern New Hampshire and Maine than from Connecticut and Western Massachusetts, which is closer, probably due to the hills in Western Rhode Island and Eastern Connecticut.

WMTW is on channel 8.

- Trip

The fact that you can receive WMTW is amazing considering that they are on ch 46 and WUVN- ch.18 Hartford, CT -is on ch.46 and you're a lot closer to Hartford, but then I've heard that many in Rhode Island have an easier time receiving stations in southern New Hampshire and Maine than from Connecticut and Western Massachusetts, which is closer, probably due to the hills in Western Rhode Island and Eastern Connecticut.

It is odd, but I know from experience when you live on the coast strange things can happen.

I recall one day back in the early '90s I had on the Noon news (via our old rooftop antenna) and one of the local channels went out and another signal came in. The signal was pulsating, had no audio, but was coming in clear enough for me to see advertisements for orange groves and a weather forecast...for the state of Florida! I kid you not, it absolutely happened, the whole newscast was obviously for Florida. Lasted about 15-20 minutes and then that was it, but I'll never forget it!

This is the first time I've seen this with digital signals though -- doesn't seem like they travel the same way, or as far. Again, it's only late night, I've seen it around Midnight or 1am (and then gone in the morning), but it's strong enough to watch the 8.2 "NewsNow" subchannel and the local news and such. :)

I find it odd that I have reception issues with some of the Boston channels (especially 44, 38, etc.) while no issues with some of the others (2, 4, and 5 90% of the time are fine), but I guess when you are on the fringe anything can happen.

WMTW
my favorite station What are you using indoor or outdoor
antenna please let me know ill give it a try

RIComputerguy -- just an outdoor Channel Master 4228 on the roof, mounted to the chimney. Again, this doesn't mean I'm getting this station 24/7 -- don't know if it's an atmospheric oddity or what not, but I've been getting it steadily late at night over the last week or so.

Just as a follow-up -- still getting Channel 8 Portland. Was able to watch the entire 11pm news tonight!

WMTW is on channel 8.

- Trip
You are right - my mistake. WMTW was on ch.46 until the June 12 changeover,when it switched to ch.8.

GREAT GREAT NEWS
WGN SUPPERSTATION IS COMING YES YES YES but not in HD but who cares
AT LEST WERE GETTING IT:) I Wrote to WGN myself and got the answer. Why cox reps did not know I have no clue it coming in septemer 15th. the hooneymooners are on WGN as well

GREAT GREAT NEWS
WGN SUPPERSTATION IS COMING YES YES YES but not in HD but who cares
AT LEST WERE GETTING IT:) I Wrote to WGN myself and got the answer. Why cox reps did not know I have no clue it coming in septemer 15th. the hooneymooners are on WGN as well


Yes RIComputerGuy this is great new beacse a funny thing happend this morning i if you have the DVR box form Cox. On CH 37 The W.G.N. Amarica Logo was thrie i though to my self something is up. and Shure enough i was right but as far as getting in HD. It wouldn't Surprize me if we get WGN IN HD Before the Year is over again Thank you for the Great news. Hopefully WGN will Have A HoneyMooners New Years Eve Marthaion

Matt

did cox ever have wgn before i remember wpix and wsbk(boston) but can't remember if we use to have wgn i know directv did ...and it will be nice to see the honeymooners again its to bad they ruined tvland and nick at night ..i wish there was a channel that showed all the good old tv shows like honeymooner ,dick van dyke,mary tyler moore and cheers the shows when tv was actually good..and i even miss gilligan lol

cox had it way way back in 1982 when I was a kid I thought it was so cool to see news from out of state then they replaced it with CNN they ought to try to get wsbk 38 as its no longer it no longer UNP is a independent station but not sure if the FCC would allow it. check out http://www.wgnamerica.com/pages/main
its going to be the best tv station they had added in so long

confirmed cox e-mail
channel 82 WOW took long enough to get it now hope it comes in HD soon

GREAT GREAT NEWS
WGN SUPPERSTATION IS COMING YES YES YES but not in HD but who cares
AT LEST WERE GETTING IT:) I Wrote to WGN myself and got the answer. Why cox reps did not know I have no clue it coming in septemer 15th. the hooneymooners are on WGN as well

Not to rain on your parade RI computerguy but WGN is a far cry from what it used to be. Not much programming there you can't get elsewhere since they started a "national" feed. Unless you are into Cubs or White Sox games and don't have the MLB package it's pretty useless now.

TCM HD is beginning to pop-up on cable systems.

Any idea as to when Cox New England might receive Tuner Classic Movies in HD ???

I don't believe the PBS broadcast of TOH is on Saturday, so if you have actually seen TOH in HD, then WGBH must have gotten its HD recording gear working. That's great news!

I hope this is the beginning of all the available HD programming actually showing up on WGBH in HD.

SMK
Is That When They Also Changed WGBH's On Screen Bugs As Well?

Not to rain on your parade RI computerguy but WGN is a far cry from what it used to be. Not much programming there you can't get elsewhere since they started a "national" feed. Unless you are into Cubs or White Sox games and don't have the MLB package it's pretty useless now.

true
but they do have the following shows
in the heat of the night,alf,matlock,barney miller,wkrp
but the 3 or 4 shows they have are fine with me

I just saw a press release
Arizona gets 50mp downloads on the Ultimate internet for 89.99
we have to 145.00 to get it is cox a rip off or what still waiting on milti room dvr verizon
just came out with one there hd going to 100 channels wish cox would get on the ball
yes with verizon you pay for hd I be will to pay a little for hd though

I just saw a press release
Arizona gets 50mp downloads on the Ultimate internet for 89.99
we have to 145.00 to get it is cox a rip off or what still waiting on milti room dvr verizon
just came out with one there hd going to 100 channels wish cox would get on the ball
yes with verizon you pay for hd I be will to pay a little for hd though

Enough, I am usually nice, and ignore posts, but your post spamming of this board is getting to me. Move to Verizon and be done with it. Then you can go complain about FIOS service in their thread.

Cox will get Multi Room DVR when they are done testing it, it was just announced over the summ and we still have 4 months left in the year for it to come out. As far as HD selection Cox has 68 HD channels including PPV and premiums. A large majority of the HD channels that FIOS offers are premuims, so if you dont subscribe dont expect to get 100 HD channels.

As far as pricing for internet goes, its based on market and each market for Cox is its own seperate entity. Prices, channel selection, services are goign to be different becasue of this you cannot judge your service based on antother Cox market.

I am sorry for the rant, but all of these multi posts from "different" users with the same writing style, and "issues" are getting to me.

I guess this is what I get for browsing the forums while not logged in.

/rant

I have heard that Cox is still planning to go live with a few more HD channels by the end of the year, it was the Spetember time frame, but it looks to ahve been pushed. I am thinking now probably after October sometime, but this is pure speculation.

Also, a revamped guide is going to go live 8/26, so be on the look out for that. I am not sure if the is the new NDS guide, but I dont think it is. The NDS guide will be the HD guide with a number of options. You ca see more in the "global" Cox thread.

Enough, I am usually nice, and ignore posts, but your post spamming of this board is getting to me. Move to Verizon and be done with it. Then you can go complain about FIOS service in their thread.

Cox will get Multi Room DVR when they are done testing it, it was just announced over the summ and we still have 4 months left in the year for it to come out. As far as HD selection Cox has 68 HD channels including PPV and premiums. A large majority of the HD channels that FIOS offers are premuims, so if you dont subscribe dont expect to get 100 HD channels.

As far as pricing for internet goes, its based on market and each market for Cox is its own seperate entity. Prices, channel selection, services are goign to be different becasue of this you cannot judge your service based on antother Cox market.

I am sorry for the rant, but all of these multi posts from "different" users with the same writing style, and "issues" are getting to me.

I guess this is what I get for browsing the forums while not logged in.

/rant

I have heard that Cox is still planning to go live with a few more HD channels by the end of the year, it was the Spetember time frame, but it looks to ahve been pushed. I am thinking now probably after October sometime, but this is pure speculation.

Also, a revamped guide is going to go live 8/26, so be on the look out for that. I am not sure if the is the new NDS guide, but I dont think it is. The NDS guide will be the HD guide with a number of options. You ca see more in the "global" Cox thread.

As to the rant - amen. Not to discourage continued additions, but Cox pretty much has all the HD channels I care about and watch at this point.

Anyhow, did you mean to say 8/26? That's today. Hope it's true... the current (?) guide is one of the biggest pitfalls IMO.

As you probably noticed, what's here on 8/26 is an upgraded UI for On DEMAND. But there are certainly more changes ahead in the coming months. On DEMAND got a nice facelift today, though.

RoyGBiv, I've had my HDDVR set to the Sat 5PM slot for a while now and indeed TOH in HD 2.1.
May have been the previous week also but the DVR was set to tune 2.2.
I notice back to back episodes of TOH again this Sat like last weeks where it had been the 'TOH Hour'.
Thought I'd seen other not in prime time HD programs on 'GBH recently, so looks like recording gear in place.
'Bout time, I've had it well over a year now. :) Perfect ending to '08 though.

Could you please give me screencaps of TOH that you recorded on Saturday December 27, 2008 on WGBH 2? so I can see what it looks like that now it is in HD? And Could You Also Upload That Episode On Youtube if you can?

As to the rant - amen. Not to discourage continued additions, but Cox pretty much has all the HD channels I care about and watch at this point.

Anyhow, did you mean to say 8/26? That's today. Hope it's true... the current (?) guide is one of the biggest pitfalls IMO.

Yes 8/26 lol, its live now. Not sure how I feel on the facelift yet, as when you enter the different sections, it seems to get you to random points within the selection. I found myself a few time early on saying where is all the content. Dont forget to change your selections (left\right arrow buttons) as there may be more content available then the first screen shows. I do like the loading percentage screen, and the OD guide does seem to be much faster.

these guide changes seem to be killing my DVR. How much longer til a more modern model is available? This thing is so dated now

these guide changes seem to be killing my DVR. How much longer til a more modern model is available? This thing is so dated now

What model box do you have?

Also, with regard to the changes, you can now access a channel's OD content directly visiting a channel up in the 1000s (you'll see them in the guide). I'm only mentioning this because I hated having to go through OD from the beginning just to get to the Party Down episodes on Starz.

As you probably noticed, what's here on 8/26 is an upgraded UI for On DEMAND. But there are certainly more changes ahead in the coming months. On DEMAND got a nice facelift today, though.

will that also be the On-Screen TVGUIDE if you can commit on this along with a way to store more content on the DVR as I alway run out or room.

What model box do you have?

Also, with regard to the changes, you can now access a channel's OD content directly visiting a channel up in the 1000s (you'll see them in the guide). I'm only mentioning this because I hated having to go through OD from the beginning just to get to the Party Down episodes on Starz.

I Did see that and now Love OD more then Ever one of the bust upgrades so far this year!! Can you comment I know there testing Milti Room DVR's if I have 3 dvr's with 3 harddrives 160gb from cox will I still be able to use the 3416 with the Milti Room service? Or will I only be able to have one box. One at cox seems to know at least that answer hope you that answer surfing the internet I found out the service should be here by christmas

What model box do you have?

Also, with regard to the changes, you can now access a channel's OD content directly visiting a channel up in the 1000s (you'll see them in the guide). I'm only mentioning this because I hated having to go through OD from the beginning just to get to the Party Down episodes on Starz.

the DCT6412 with dvi. Ive gone through about three of these, one was the hdmi model, but they're all incredibly slow.

the DCT6412 with dvi. Ive gone through about three of these, one was the hdmi model, but they're all incredibly slow.

The 6412 is the problematic DVR for RI, I had to have one switched out for a different model. I still have one 6412 that seems to be going strong, however I have a feeling I might switch that one out to in the future. You may want to have a roll out and specifically request a different model then the 6412, or go into a Cox Location and request the other model (cant think of it off the top of my head).

I havent had any issues with the new OD system and my 6412 though, I was up and watching the opgrade take place, so there were a few reboots that occured during the overnight (3-4 I think) that might have killed your box.

Enough, I am usually nice, and ignore posts, but your post spamming of this board is getting to me. Move to Verizon and be done with it. Then you can go complain about FIOS service in their thread.

Their thread?? lol. Actually this thread is about HDTV in the Providence market....I know you Cox guys have turned it into an exclusive (and incredibly dull) discussion about their services but if you want it be all Cox all the time maybe you should go on the Cox board.

Limited discussion of providers other services, besides HD, are allowed. If it starts to dominate a topic, it will be deleted. Please use the Report Post button if you feel this is happening.

Their thread?? lol. Actually this thread is about HDTV in the Providence market....I know you Cox guys have turned it into an exclusive (and incredibly dull) discussion about their services but if you want it be all Cox all the time maybe you should go on the Cox board.
LOL! I agree, this board seems to be dominated continually by discussions of Cox and rarely about OTA HDTV, but as the moderator said, discussions about Cox is allowed here as there is no seperate thread for both Cox and OTA, as there is in the Boston and Hartford boards.

Regarding OTA HDTV in the Providence market, does anyone know the status of any changes in power to WPRI-DT? I know their sister station WNAC is now 30kw, but I thought WPRI was asking for 30kw too.

There going to be one called cox cable services in RI
am going to start it I did ask KEN H so a head and am going too

LOL! I agree, this board seems to be dominated continually by discussions of Cox and rarely about OTA HDTV, but as the moderator said, discussions about Cox is allowed here as there is no seperate thread for both Cox and OTA, as there is in the Boston and Hartford boards.

Regarding OTA HDTV in the Providence market, does anyone know the status of any changes in power to WPRI-DT? I know their sister station WNAC is now 30kw, but I thought WPRI was asking for 30kw too.

HI I do kinda agree so I started up a COX CABLE RI
so please lets pass the word around so that everyone knows there a cox cable board
thanks
to ph8te and others sorry to bother you with chatting about cox services hope to see you on the cox ri forum I promiss not to bitch about cox so please come on over

Here's the new Cox topic for Providence: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175637

Here's the new Cox topic for Providence: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175637

Ken thanks for the heads up and the new thread. As I have said in the past though, I think this is more of a disservice to our small market then a service. Other markets IMO are big enough to support multiple threads, this market however, I think is too small and it will spell "death" for either thread (most liekly this one). In the past we were able to bounce questions off one another epsecially when it came to channel issues, now I ahve a feeling there is going to be a divide.

DOnt get me wrong I do understand the complaints of the OTA group, and I personally have tried to keep things to HD channels and minimal service announcements lately it has been over crowded with other discussions.

I wish all the OTA group a fond farewell, since I dont use OTA service, this will probably be my last post in this thread. I dont want to muck this thread up any longer with "off topic" discussion.

I agree with the previous poster, even though I am a DTV subscriber and a Charter internet subscriber..

Regarding OTA HDTV in the Providence market, does anyone know the status of any changes in power to WPRI-DT? I know their sister station WNAC is now 30kw, but I thought WPRI was asking for 30kw too.

WPRI-DT is not at 30kW yet...

WPRI-DT is not at 30kW yet...

Are we saying WPRI will be increasing their signal's power soon then?

Is WNAC planning on making MyNewtorkTV a sub channel now? I was going through my Antenna channels and I've picked up 64-2 MyRI-DT. However it had no sound and was showing an SD version of what was playing on 64-1.

Are we saying WPRI will be increasing their signal's power soon then?
When visiting a friends house in Melrose, MA to check out the DTV converters and antenna I installed for them, I notice that they are picking up WNAC 64 (RF12), and a slightly weaker signal on WJAR 10 (RF51) and even WLNE 6 (RF49). No signal at all from WPRI 12 (RF13), WLWC 28 (RF22) and WSBE 36 (RF21).

Has anyone heard about the status of alaong channel 50, the Telemundo low power station? When are they going digital (I think they will be at RF11).

Great to see some OTA posts coming in on this board, keep posting! We call all learn from other's posts.

WNAC will be adding MyRITV on 9/28/09. Over the next week or two we will have bars and some test programs on. We are offering an HD feed to the local CATV systems if they want to carry it.

Is anyone in the South County area able to get any signal at all from WSBE 36, I'm in Westerly, and receive all the Providence stations with little or no problems, but get 0 signal from this station?

Here's the new Cox topic for Providence: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175637

Thank you Ken :)

Is anyone in the South County area able to get any signal at all from WSBE 36, I'm in Westerly, and receive all the Providence stations with little or no problems, but get 0 signal from this station?

I'm in Wakefield and 36 is really hit or miss. Some days it's fine with readings in the 80s but the signal fluctuates down here quite a bit -- at times with a good amount of break-up and the signal in the 60s. I don't have any trees around me so I'm guessing it probably has something to do with the strength of their signal (or lack thereof).

I'm in Wakefield and 36 is really hit or miss. Some days it's fine with readings in the 80s but the signal fluctuates down here quite a bit -- at times with a good amount of break-up and the signal in the 60s. I don't have any trees around me so I'm guessing it probably has something to do with the strength of their signal (or lack thereof).
I think that the lack of signal strength is causing the weak signal. WSBE-DT is on WJAR's tower in Rehoboth, but is below WJAR and WLNE on the tower. In addition, it is only at 50kw, much lower in power than the other Providence stations, and at RF21, it is wedged between RF20 (WCVB Boston) and RF22 (WLWC New Bedford).

And then, to really mess with your minds, here in NE CT, I get WSBE in consistent mid-to-high 70s. Through foliage ~20 ft away from the antenna. Other Providence stations are ~80-85.

There was a while there, tho, post-transition, where I couldn't get it at all.

Will have to re-scan/add for 64-2 and see what's up.

Does anyone here have any idea of a timeframe for when WPRI or WJAR (or even WLNE) will go HD with their newscasts? We're one of the largest markets still without HD News.

Also, WPRI has been airing HD promos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCJ0pikDZag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J79NBSWdQGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoXJOcQDNEk

A preview of the "Live Pinpoint Doppler 12" graphics in HD, as seen in one of the promos:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3913050644_881ce2304c_b.jpg

Didn't 12 tell us they were the going to be the first to do HD news in this market? Certainly the production of their newscast appears to be the closest to HD around.

Well WNAC and WPRI are now showing their local line-up in HD. I'm waiting tonight to see if they are going HD. What bugs me is that their graphics aren't changed its just widescreen and in HD quality so I don't know what is taking so long.

I think the graphics are fine. They were made fairly recently by RenderOn, so they were probably made for HD.

Nope..not yet.

Noticed my OTA DVR has lost all program guide information for Channels 12 and 64...everything else is there, but not those two channels. Weird -- wonder if it has something to do with 64-2 going live next week.

WNAC DT2 went from color bars to a test pattern today. But now they are back at just a gray screen with occasional audio tests. 0UGr-IRct0I

Noticed my OTA DVR has lost all program guide information for Channels 12 and 64...everything else is there, but not those two channels. Weird -- wonder if it has something to do with 64-2 going live next week.

If it builds the guide with PSIP data it could be a time error at the station. Would make since if they recently reconfigured their gear. Just a guess. If this is the case give them a call because the FCC does regulate time errors.

RE: Electronic Program Guide

There was a unrelated issue to the new channel going on or a time error with the PSIP server. I told our IT technician who is in the building how to resolve it. It is all set now and the guide is going back out over the air.

MyRITV looks like its going to be good, with a good lineup. I see you will be launching it at 5 AM Monday. Do you plan to announce it on your newscast?

RE: Electronic Program Guide

There was a unrelated issue to the new channel going on or a time error with the PSIP server. I told our IT technician who is in the building how to resolve it. It is all set now and the guide is going back out over the air.

IS COX going to carry MYRITV or is cox going the usual rout and not going to carry it for 3 monthes like RTN

Well, MyRITV has launched on WNAC DT2.

GaFRE5mpEks

This video shows the logo as seen in a lineup.

RE: Electronic Program Guide

There was a unrelated issue to the new channel going on or a time error with the PSIP server. I told our IT technician who is in the building how to resolve it. It is all set now and the guide is going back out over the air.

Yep I see it has come back along with MyRITV. Very nice!

Does WPRI have any plans for their digital subchannels?

In Broadcasting & Cable...
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/356120-WNAC_Shifts_MyNet_to_Digital_Channel.php

How is the reception of the Boston and Hartford area channels in Western Rhode Island, specifically areas to the West of Warwick, Kingston, Narragansett, and Westerly, and what channels are the strongest and weakest?

I want to get rid of Cox TV altogether and make do with whatever stations I can get on my own. So, how best and how inexpensively can I achieve that, living where I do, in the heart (such as it is) of Wakefield, RI?

My girlfriend really doesn't want an antenna on the house. But what about in the attic? The house is 1.5 stories. Is there an antenna set up that would most likely work?

The local RS has an Antennacraft HBU33 for $80; but I'd gladly order elsewhere.

Could I get a few suggestions?

Thanks!

How is the reception of the Boston and Hartford area channels in Western Rhode Island, specifically areas to the West of Warwick, Kingston, Narragansett, and Westerly, and what channels are the strongest and weakest?

Where i am in Westerly i can't pull any Boston or Hartford stations in!

I want to get rid of Cox TV altogether and make do with whatever stations I can get on my own. So, how best and how inexpensively can I achieve that, living where I do, in the heart (such as it is) of Wakefield, RI?

My girlfriend really doesn't want an antenna on the house. But what about in the attic? The house is 1.5 stories. Is there an antenna set up that would most likely work?

The local RS has an Antennacraft HBU33 for $80; but I'd gladly order elsewhere.

Could I get a few suggestions?

Thanks!

There is a website that has proved useful to people in your situation: tvfool.com. Quick step-by-step guide - use the Start Maps option. Type in your address, then get the page with a google map and some results. Zoom in on the google map to be sure the pointer is over your house - drag it to the right place as required. Enter an estimate for antenna height, then click on the page. After the data refreshes, click the "make radar plot" button to get a new page. You will see a plot showing you what directions signals come from and a table listing the stations from strongest to weakest.

In that table is a column labelled NM, for noise margin. With an antenna like the one you mentioned plus a pre-amp, you should be able to get stations with an NM as low as 13 or 15. I have a larger antenna with a 20dB preamp and get stations down to 10.

Look at stores such as solidsignal.com for ideas/prices.

thanks, dave, i really appreciate that advice. looks like i can get the networks plus pbs, 17.8 - 48.8 NM, which is all I really want or need.

okay so now what? how do I look for an antenna to match those specs?

thanks again!

The antennacraft you were looking at would suffice.

You could also look at Antennas Direct and Terrestrial Digital brand of antennas, like the DB4 and DB8, and also the Channel Master and Winegard antennas.

How is the reception of the Boston and Hartford area channels in Western Rhode Island, specifically areas to the West of Warwick, Kingston, Narragansett, and Westerly, and what channels are the strongest and weakest?

I'm in Wakefield area, on the water, and 2,4, and 5 are very strong. 90% of the time they come in with no break up. 7 comes in and out depending on the weather. 38 is weaker but comes in occasionally, mostly at night. 44 and 56 are really dependent on conditions and mostly do not come in.

When you're on the fringe down here of Boston signals it's really dependant on conditions. As I posted several nights this past summer I received Channel 8 -- out of Portland Maine -- crystal clear late at night. Once in a while that signal pops in as well. So while my location is excellent (I have no trees or anything blocking me), it really does show that atmospheric and weather conditions dictate what you're going to get and when.

The Hartford channels -- absolutely nada. As my antenna is permanently anchored towards the north and east I wouldn't expect to get any of them, but I have not seen many Rhode Islanders talk about their reception either. Too many obstacles and such in the way. The Boston signals you'll have a much better chance on, though when you move this far south of them, it's not always 100%, no matter where you are or what you have for gear (I am running a CM4228 and preamp, roof mounted).

do you think your set up of a CM4228 and the CM Titan would work in an attic application? i've got a smallish window that faces N (pretty much) that i could put the antenna against. what do you think? i'm in wakefield as well, over by the hospital ...

also: is there a cheaper 4 bay model that might work as well? and ... any place to get these things in the general area?

tia!

btw/ i have a line on a used DB4. please tell me it'd work okay .... but only if it will!

do you think your set up of a CM4228 and the CM Titan would work in an attic application? i've got a smallish window that faces N (pretty much) that i could put the antenna against. what do you think? i'm in wakefield as well, over by the hospital ...

also: is there a cheaper 4 bay model that might work as well? and ... any place to get these things in the general area?

tia!

btw/ i have a line on a used DB4. please tell me it'd work okay .... but only if it will!
I have both a DB4 and Old Channel Master 4221. Both antennas work well on UHF digital channels, though the 4221 does have a slight edge on VHF.

linter -- as the other poster mentioned you can give that combo a shot. Location is big, especially if it is facing north. I bought an extra Antennasdirect antenna for my folks and just tried it out for fun here, and found it basically got all the same channels -- even unamplified! -- when I put it in the window facing north.

I ordered all of my gear from solidsignal.com, as there's not much around here...I'm down on salt pond, my wife works at the hospital. :)

Let us know how you fare with it!

For all those making the switch from cable to free OTA that want a Program Guide, HD DVR, and online video (youtube,google,hulu,pod casts) check out the below software. It makes adjusting a little easier. I've been using it for about a year now and can't think of a single complaint. It ranks high on the wife approval factor too.

http://www.sagetv.com/

Just MAKE SURE whatever antenna you get for reception here in Rhode Island has VHF High Band capabilities to it.

WPRI-DT and WNAC-DT are both VHF.

--Mike

Just MAKE SURE whatever antenna you get for reception here in Rhode Island has VHF High Band capabilities to it.

WPRI-DT and WNAC-DT are both VHF.

--Mike
WWDP-DT in Norwell, WHDH-DT in Boston, and WTNH-DT are also all on Hi-VHF and are available to some viewers in Rhode Island.

WHDH will be shutting off 7 at some point. And I doubt anyone's clamoring to get WWDP.

- Trip

WHDH digital 7 is now looping an announcement to rescan for it on 42.

WWDP-DT in Norwell, WHDH-DT in Boston, and WTNH-DT are also all on Hi-VHF and are available to some viewers in Rhode Island.

Also WEDN-DT.

Anyone having trouble getting Boston WHDH 7 OTA? Have been able to get it in Providence for years on my directv HR20-700's. Now I don't get a signal with my attic mounted CM4228. All other Boston stations come in strong.

They recently shut off the channel 7 signal and are now only on channel 42. If your receiver has not been rescanned or if it's one of those receivers that does not scan, it may not yet have been updated to reflect this change.

- Trip

They recently shut off the channel 7 signal and are now only on channel 42. If your receiver has not been rescanned or if it's one of those receivers that does not scan, it may not yet have been updated to reflect this change.

- Trip

Too bad they did that. I can't get it now! :mad:

Too bad they did that. I can't get it now! :mad:

You stated that were able to get it for years. They simply lit up the signal they had before June 12.

- Trip

Does anyone know a satellite installer in the RI area? I need to have my DirecTV dish re-aimed as it was recently moved when I had my siding replaced. I have a SWM 3 LNB dish if that makes a difference.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

SMK

All of the sudden I am getting a signal again although weak. For weeks I did not get any signal scanning directly on my TV tuner and directv DVR.

You stated that were able to get it for years. They simply lit up the signal they had before June 12.

- Trip

I've never been able to get 7 on a consistent basis, it breaks up a great deal in Southern RI. 2, 4 and 5 come in far more consistently for me at least.

During the summer when HDH changed their signal it came in better, but even then it was hit or miss, and mainly came in at night. Now it hardly comes in at all.

Does anyone know what is going on with WRIW-CA?

TVFool (and the FCC maps) tell me that I should be getting an excellent signal from them here in Barrington, yet I get nothing whatsoever with an attic mounted antenna.

Are they even on the air?

I've never been able to get 7 on a consistent basis, it breaks up a great deal in Southern RI. 2, 4 and 5 come in far more consistently for me at least.

During the summer when HDH changed their signal it came in better, but even then it was hit or miss, and mainly came in at night. Now it hardly comes in at all.
I have noticed over the last week that WHDH has had frequent signal dropouts, too, and I'm next west of Attleboro. Their signal is at around 940 kw - the highest power of any Boston station, and non directional.

Does anyone know what is going on with WRIW-CA?

TVFool (and the FCC maps) tell me that I should be getting an excellent signal from them here in Barrington, yet I get nothing whatsoever with an attic mounted antenna.

Are they even on the air?
That station is at very low power, its signal outside of Providence city limits is weak and hit or miss.

I have noticed over the last week that WHDH has had frequent signal dropouts, too, and I'm next west of Attleboro. Their signal is at around 940 kw - the highest power of any Boston station, and non directional.


However, they are also signifigantly lower in height above terrain than the others.

WBZ/WCVB/WGBX/WSBK are at 390 meters, WGBH @ 374 meters, WFXT @ 363 meters, WBPX @ 361meters, WLVI @ 346meters, and WYDN @ 319meters. WHDH is at 288 meters. Over 100 feet in difference from the lowest to the next highest up, and 200 feet and above for the higher ones.

Hi, not getting a signal this morning and 90% sure it's not a problem at my end. Wondered what's up? Is it related to the storm this weekend or routine maintenance?

WLWC is OK in Mystic, CT.
John

WLWC is pretty strong at my location east of Providence , but for the past few days I have not been able to receive WYDN-DT 47 and WMFP-DT 18, whereas previously I had beebn receiving those stations, although with a weak signal at times. Could the storm conditions have affected the reception? In addition, WWDP-DT 10 and WBPX-DT 32 have been weaker than usual.

I think it is just weather conditions in general. There is snow on the ground now, which there wasn't before and judging by my tree in the back, there is still a lot of snow on the trees as well. This could be affecting things.

I am getting 28 full bore where I live.

What is the broadcast resolution of the local Providence channels - that is, which stations broadcast at 1080, 720, etc,?

It varies with content and time of day etc etc, but all the over the air locals have 1080i capability and generally use only 1080i for prime time content.

Actually, WJAR and WPRI are technically broadcasting in 1080i all of the time, while WNAC and WLNE broadcast in 720p all of the time, because their networks prefer them to.

All non-HD programming is upconverted to whatever resolution the station broadcasts in.

Is there any news or speculation on when RI will see local HD newscasts?

How is the reception of the Boston and Hartford area channels in Western Rhode Island, specifically areas to the West of Warwick, Kingston, Narragansett, and Westerly, and what channels are the strongest and weakest?

I know this was posted 3 months ago. But I am lurking as I sit having coffee waiting to go to work. I lived in Westerly for 20 years up until Summer of 08. Prov and Htfd reception was HORRIBLE. Most of Westerly is in a valley compared to most of the both states and the transmitters are all in the 40+ mile range. The only DTV stations I ever received were the the 2 ION stations (Prov and Htfd). The only place in Westerly that had some luck was a group of homes on a hill just North of 78 and Amtrak. I would imagine the new homes on the top of Potter Hill would have some goo results

Here in Michigan it's a whole different story. Since the DMA is large geograpically, (Grand Rapids and Battle Creek are 1 DMA) they use LP stations to retransmit the signal. Grand Rapids and Battle Creek are about 50 miles apart with the transmitters almost halfway between. They then use LP transmitters and the signals are reached until the next DMA. My point being there should be a LP transmitter say in Richmond, Coventry or Exeter, on high ground right off of I-95. This could service the whole Western and Southern parts of the state. I am using a 13 yr old, antenna that was installed when I first got Sat TV in 1996. I stored it when we moved in 98 across town and bought a Large directional that did not help until we moved in 08.

Dominic

I'm familiar with GR ... and although that is a large DMA there are other places in the US where there are even larger use of translators to reach viewers. New Mexico - with Albuquerque at the center - has an extensive network of translators for each of the large stations.

Many of these large markets don't have the issues with channel allocation that we have here in the northeast and up and down the east coast. The population density here is such that there are large overlaps in the DMA's. As such there are also overlaps in the RF coverage - which makes it hard to find frequencies (channels) that can be utilised for new stations, even low power ones.

Beyond that comes the economics of installing and maintaining translators. Expensive engineering studies are required petition the FCC for a new allocation. High ground sites to put them on don't come cheap - and that would be a recurring cost for the TV station. Plus: you would need the ability to feed the transmitter - typically by microwave. Add to that a new transmitter, antenna, feedline, encoders and a lot of other equipment and it becomes an expensive endeavor. Realistically it would likely be cost justified only in those situations where it could be proven that there were enough viewers who were watching off-air that were underserved by the primary station. That's often hard to do with cable and satellite penetration rates in the 80% and up through 90% range.

Is anyone here having problems with channels 2.1 and 2.2 - WGBH Boston? There are several reports on the Boston board of signal problems with the station.

No problem here in Middletown. Both coming in with signal strength of ~65 on a Dish Network 722 OTA tuner.

Anyone know about WJAR's channel 10.2 schedule? The guides I can find show for example I Spy from 9-10PM weekdays. The guide my TV gets from WJAR agrees, but Oprah is actually on.

Anyone know about WJAR's channel 10.2 schedule? The guides I can find show for example I Spy from 9-10PM weekdays. The guide my TV gets from WJAR agrees, but Oprah is actually on.
WJAR's 10.2 channel is showing Oprah at 9-10PM because of the Olympics coverage afternoons on WJAR 10.1. I would think that I Spy will return when the Olympics end.

We will be running Oprah instead of I Spy from now on at 9PM. There are a few programs moved over to RTV for only the Olympics.

Mark

Anyone know about WJAR's channel 10.2 schedule? The guides I can find show for example I Spy from 9-10PM weekdays. The guide my TV gets from WJAR agrees, but Oprah is actually on.


WMFP - Boston 62.1

Those who know how to get free TV from an antenna, you can still watch the the programs being bumped by WJAR. They are still available on WMFP - Boston 62.1 RTV and from what I can see they are putting out a better picture.

Has anyone here on this board in the Providence area ever received any of the Hartford, CT/Springfield, MA/or southern New Hampshire area channels?

During summer trop conditions I have received 30, 3, and 24 digitally here from Hartford and 40 from Springfield. I've never seen anything from Southern NH. I was getting 6 and 13 from Portland, ME one evening.

(I also have received WNBC, WNYE, WLIW and WNYW from NYC one night as well)

Out in Exeter/West Greenwich/Foster/Gloucester, it is common reception to get the guys from Hartford. All the DTV signal measurements Ive done out there, 30 and 24 have ALWAYS been standard reception. 3 not as much, about 90% of the others. I've never received 61.

I heard that WSBE-DT will go all night with its programming over its two OTA channels rather than shutting down at 11:30 weeknights. Anyone know when this will occur?

I heard that WSBE-DT will go all night with its programming over its two OTA channels rather than shutting down at 11:30 weeknights. Anyone know when this will occur?

If you check their website, it seem to be NOW...
http://www.ripbs.org/schedule.html

If you check their website, it seem to be NOW...
http://www.ripbs.org/schedule.html

They've been running guide data for the channel for years. It's still dark at night.

Does anyone here who receives OTA TV notice that WLNE-DT give off a brighter picture than the other Providence stations (especially when viewing the news), but also has more momentary picture break ups, especially at night?

Does anyone here who receives OTA TV notice that WLNE-DT give off a brighter picture than the other Providence stations (especially when viewing the news), but also has more momentary picture break ups, especially at night?

I don't watch much WLNE, but have not noticed any of that. I have noticed that their audio and video is a bit flat on ABC feeds relative to WCVB though.

Does anyone here who receives OTA TV notice that WLNE-DT give off a brighter picture than the other Providence stations (especially when viewing the news), but also has more momentary picture break ups, especially at night?

It's probably the video feed to their upconverter is hotter than the others. Or the upconverter itself.

I don't watch much WLNE, but have not noticed any of that. I have noticed that their audio and video is a bit flat on ABC feeds relative to WCVB though.

WLNE broadcasts in 720. WCVB is 1080.

And since I can't get WCVB anymore b/c of the idiotic FCC co-channeling b/w Hartford-Boston (pre-switch, it came in at 90 percent, my strongest station), the crappy WLNE is the only option for ABC.

ABC's feed is in 720p, so WLNE would actually have the better quality, not the upconverted WCVB feed.

WLNE broadcasts in 720. WCVB is 1080.

And since I can't get WCVB anymore b/c of the idiotic FCC co-channeling b/w Hartford-Boston (pre-switch, it came in at 90 percent, my strongest station), the crappy WLNE is the only option for ABC.

Have you ever tried to pick up WGGB-DT out of Springfield, or WTNH out of New Haven, CT?

ABC's feed is in 720p, so WLNE would actually have the better quality, not the upconverted WCVB feed

Technically if they are converting from 720p to 1080i, that would be cross-converted, not upconverted.

It's probably the video feed to their upconverter is hotter than the others. Or the upconverter itself.

Neither are winning any awards, but judging by the text WLNE as some contrast brightness calibration issues.

Neither are winning any awards, but judging by the text WLNE as some contrast brightness calibration issues.

I can't speak for WLNE or WJAR. I know we hit the upconverters for WPRI & WNAC with the video set to the industry accepted levels.

I can't speak for WLNE or WJAR. I know we hit the upconverters for WPRI & WNAC with the video set to the industry accepted levels.


I have to say WNAC/WPRI are the most improved over the last year or so in Providence for both news production and technology. Seinfeld in HD is not even carried by WFXT yet in Boston.

I noticed today that WPXQ has upgraded to broadcasting HD programming on 69.1. They previously only aired 480i programming. Now if Cox would just add it.

WBPX has been in HD for some time now.

I don't watch much WLNE, but have not noticed any of that. I have noticed that their audio and video is a bit flat on ABC feeds relative to WCVB though.

WLNE needs to do something about their ABC network feed...flat is putting it kindly IMO. Watching LOST on WCVB is like watching it on Blu-Ray compared to WLNE -- crisper, sharper, more detailed image, far superior sound.

WLNE is far behind the other Providence stations in terms of quality. Hopefully they'll turn it around one day.

WLNE needs to do something about their ABC network feed...flat is putting it kindly IMO. Watching LOST on WCVB is like watching it on Blu-Ray compared to WLNE -- crisper, sharper, more detailed image, far superior sound.

WLNE is far behind the other Providence stations in terms of quality. Hopefully they'll turn it around one day.

Yeah, even WCVB shows up a lot brighter on my TV than WLNE does...

During the Comcast-pulling-our-Boston HD Channels-and-replacing-them-with Providence fiasco, they never even pulled WCVB in favor of WLNE. I know bandwidth was an issue, but maybe even they realized how godawful WLNE is...

And hopefully WFXT fixes their significantly viewed issue one day so I'll never have to watch WNAC (and watch their channel buzz out half the time) for FOX programming again...

And hopefully WFXT fixes their significantly viewed issue one day so I'll never have to watch WNAC (and watch their channel buzz out half the time) for FOX programming again...

Can you clarify about what you mean by our channel "buzzing out" half the time during FOX programming?

We have received 0 complaints about our channel having technical issues, nor have I seen any.

And hopefully WFXT fixes their significantly viewed issue one day so I'll never have to watch WNAC (and watch their channel buzz out half the time) for FOX programming again...

That's odd, I haven't experienced that either. WPRI and WNAC have arguably been, far and away, the best HD stations in Providence IMO, whether it was running syndicated shows like JEOPARDY in HD even before the Boston outlets or being able to broadcast weather info/etc. in HD on the news (even if the newscast itself isn't in HD). Even WJAR infuriatingly goes into standard-def during shows like THE OFFICE to run their stupid tags for the 11pm news. :mad:

Overall, these days, in comparison with the Boston stations, I think the Providence feeds match up relatively well. Even WLWC, the CW station, looks great in comparison with 56 and shows a number of syndicated shows in HD too. Other than quirks like WJAR's standard-def "ads" that break up their HD feeds, the only network affiliate in Boston that's clearly head and shoulders better in terms of general picture and sound is really WCVB. As we've written before, WLNE desperately needs to upgrade.

Its starting to get annoying when watching "the office" every week and this station drops the picture to sd just to put up a bug on the screen. When are the providence locals going to offer hd produced content like the evening news etc? During the winter channel 12 had a 1080 graphic for cancellations.

Its starting to get annoying when watching "the office" every week and this station drops the picture to sd just to put up a bug on the screen. When are the providence locals going to offer hd produced content like the evening news etc? During the winter channel 12 had a 1080 graphic for cancellations.

Channel 10 is a joke now. The only thing the company that owns it cares about is squeezing every last penny to fund its other business before its inevitable bankruptcy. Don't expect much from 10 until you hear of an ownership change. The FCC needs to reinstate ownership restrictions to avoid this kind of corporate cross-market/cross-media fleecing.

Its starting to get annoying when watching "the office" every week and this station drops the picture to sd just to put up a bug on the screen. When are the providence locals going to offer hd produced content like the evening news etc? During the winter channel 12 had a 1080 graphic for cancellations.

Glad to see Im not the only one annoyed by this ;).......I believe they are the only ones now that dont have the HD station identification. FOX, ABC, and CBS here all have them. I could have sworn that they used to have the HD station identification as well, becasue I dont remember this happening earlier in the season.

As far as HD news, well all I can say is MOHO and that is dont hold your breath. I dont think they fell that its worth it to switch to HD news as of yet for our market.

One of the reasons it is nice to have DirecTV. I have an antenna in my attic, and D* allows me to watch/record Boston's channels. I rarely watch any Providence news, and I never record WJAR. WHDH comes in perfectly.

SMK

Tonight's WPRI 12 gubernatorial debate was produced in 16:9 SD.

Sorry - this not really in 'quick reply' - but at top of page in AVS Forum-HDTV-Local HDTV info and reception (page 132 is an add for Bright View.... size of add and position on page cannot be adjusted from my end - and add is positioned so that it obscures
Search function as well as 'thread tools' box.
The above appears in the Providence thread.
Barry

Sorry - this not really in 'quick reply' - but at top of page in AVS Forum-HDTV-Local HDTV info and reception (page 132 is an add for Bright View.... size of add and position on page cannot be adjusted from my end - and add is positioned so that it obscures
Search function as well as 'thread tools' box. The above appears in the Providence thread.
The ads rotate so they are not the same every time - but the position is. I've taken a look using IE7 and IE8 under Windows XP and Windows 7 and do not see that behaviour. Maybe you can mention what OS and browser you are using? This is probably not the right place to report this - but I'm not sure which form would be better to post general web site issues to. Ideally if you can grab a screen shot and upload/attach that it would help show what the problem is. ALT-PrtScn will take a copy of the active window, then run an image editing program such as MSPAINT (on all Windows based systems), paste the screen capture and then save it. Use PNG if the program permits - best quality at the smallest size.

Hi:
Was going to respond with Screen capture as you suggested but now find - advert in same location but details as to thread tools and search this thread -appearing on top of add. Sorry about distraction - thnx for your response.
Barry

What was with the WLNE feed during the 3rd place match of the World Cup today? HD, then switch to SD, and right after the half, came back on to gray screen with red lines and the announcers' voices like Alvin & the Chipmunks. Back to HD, back to SD, and then post-game with the top half of the picture on the bottom and the bottom half on top.

What the goodyear? Really hope this doesn't happen tomorrow!

I'm located here on the North Shore of Long Island, in a town called Kings Park..

I just recently replaced my UHF Antenna, and it looks like I can receive
Ch. 69 from Block Island 90% of the time.

Is this stations broad tower at Block Island ?

Thanks,
Keith

It's licensed to Block Island, but actually transmits from a tower near Rockville, RI.

- Trip

It's just outside of Ashaway and near Hope Valley for a more "local" reference.

(On North Road, for reference).

It has a monster UHF signal that covers a large chunk of the state and even into Southeast Mass.

28-2 (WLWC) is now broadcasting a test pattern in SD

Any ideas what's going there?

EDIT - It's LATV. From wiki "LATV features Latino-themed programming aimed at young adults aged 18 to 34, including the animated comedy show Ceasar and Chuy."

Guess I won't have to program this channel in, lol.

28-2 (WLWC) is now broadcasting a test pattern in SD Any ideas what's going there? EDIT - It's LATV. From wiki "LATV features Latino-themed programming aimed at young adults aged 18to 34, including the animated comedy show Ceasar and Chuy." Guess I won't haveto program this channel in, lol.

On August 2, 2010, the station will add LATV on a new second digital subchannel. [2] This will also be seen on Comcast digital channels 299 and 702, Verizon FiOS digital channel 469, and Cox digital channel 809 (launching August 9).
am so tired of paying for spanish programing on cable tv am thinking of droping alot of the cable extra's sorry to affend others but if you live in the USA you should be speaking ENGLISH as they say when in ROME do as the Romes do. There a few spanish music channels and a few spanish music choice channels I do not think I need to pay for.

what i don't understand they have an sap button to switch the audio on english channels to spanish but on the spanish channels you can't switch them to english ..that doesn't seem right

what i don't understand they have an sap button to switch the audio on english channels to spanish but on the spanish channels you can't switch them to english ..that doesn't seem right

The cable network ESPN Deportes actually offers a english "subcarrier" (or sap) channel if you will. Not sure if the cable operators actually pass it or not.

Saw on another board that someone had been told by an anchor that WJAR will be going HD this year with a brand new set. There was also a post where someone quoted a WPRI producer's tweet which said that they should be HD within a year.

Wow, WJAR might beat everyone in RI to the punch in HD, even though they've shown no signs of going HD and that they break out of HD for school closings and station IDs during programming? At least WPRI's been doing the basic stuff in HD.

And then WPRI will tell us how they're the most watched newscast in southern New England AND in high defintion (even though Boston is largely associated with southern New England...). Their promos are already annoying enough.

Seems like i won't be able to view the Saints/Pats game tonight in 64.2 (820 HD Comcast) because it's stuck on Maury.

Lame, so no HD for the Providence market for the Pats preseason game?

Good thing most everyone can get WBZ HD over the air.

Looks like The Video part of 64.2 is back

but the audio is a different story for the rhode show.

I just tuned in a new channel, WLNE 6.2. Right now it is simulcasting WLNE 6.1. I read on radio-info that it could be broadcasting Cox Cable channel 5, which is the Rhode Island News Channel that has continuous broadcasts of WLNE's news. I thought Cox cable had exclusive rights to this channel. It's surprizing WLNE added this subchannel considering the great financial difficulty they are now unfortunately having. And who knows, the channel could be used to broadcast This TV, which has no RI affiliate.

I just tuned in a new channel, WLNE 6.2. Right now it is simulcasting WLNE 6.1. I read on radio-info that it could be broadcasting Cox Cable channel 5, which is the Rhode Island News Channel that has continuous broadcasts of WLNE's news. I thought Cox cable had exclusive rights to this channel. It's surprizing WLNE added this subchannel considering the great financial difficulty they are now unfortunately having. And who knows, the channel could be used to broadcast This TV, which has no RI affiliate.

i wrote to thistv and was told they are trying to bring it to rhode island but more then likely watch it be the rinews network if so what a wast of bandwith

I just tuned in a new channel, WLNE 6.2. Right now it is simulcasting WLNE 6.1. I read on radio-info that it could be broadcasting Cox Cable channel 5, which is the Rhode Island News Channel that has continuous broadcasts of WLNE's news. I thought Cox cable had exclusive rights to this channel. It's surprizing WLNE added this subchannel considering the great financial difficulty they are now unfortunately having. And who knows, the channel could be used to broadcast This TV, which has no RI affiliate.

alg, i said that only b/c someone posted a link showing there is some event that will be seen on Rinky 5, 6.2 and online on their website. It's nothing more than a 2+2 type assumption, based on that.

I heard LIN's COOL TV is coming to a Providence station as a subchannel. I wonder what station will carry the network?

http://thecooltv.com/THECOOLTV_SinclairTelevisionGroup.php

here is the info its not saying its LIN broadcasting

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/2010/09/28/45650/lin-media-to-air-cooltv-in-11-markets

Probably WPRI.

- Trip

While flipping through the OTA channels today I found that CoolTV is now on the air on WPRI channel 12.2. It must have come on the air very recently as today was the first day that I noticed it in my channel lineup.

I'm wondering how much bandwidth is being allocated to this new subchannel and thus potentially taking away from the bandwidth/quality of the main 12.1 CBS channel. CBS owned and operated stations like WBZ channel 4.1 in Boston are not allowed any subchannels because it takes bandwidth/quality away from the primary channel (per information on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_subchannel) under Tradeoffs).

Have any of you Fios subscribers been lucky enough to get the new Motorola 7232-2 500GB dvr? Some new subscribers have gotten it but it's not available at any of the Fios stores (at least that's what I was told).

As an FYI, the 6.2 SD simulcast of WLNE is gone.
They are back to just 6.1 HD

Hi everyone. I'm in Seekonk on the Rehoboth line and 3 miles from the transmitter Rehoboth on Pine Street. I'm seriously considering dropping Comcast and going with OTA. I suspect that if I use a combination of OTA and Netflix as well as other sources from the internet I will save a ton of money and won't miss cable all that much. In terms of installation to reception to content (the whole package) what should I expect. Are there any "gotcha's" out there that you learned that I should watch out for?

The broadcast towers are so close to you that just an indoor antenna is likely all you will need. You should have exc reception of all the Providence stations. But, if you want to put up a larger antenna in the attic or outdoors, you can almost certainly get all the Boston stations too. You really shouldn't have any problems. The can also get a DVR to use for OTA or use a PC for it.

Good luck.

SMK

I don't know if living that close can cause a signal overload issue. I live as close to the transmitters as you do, but for some reason I cannot pull in WPRI for my life. WNAC is usually hit or miss, but WLNE/WJAR come in rock solid.

It's weird that I cannot get WPRI and the transmitter is within walking distance from me, but WBZ/WFXT come in for me rock solid.

I don't know if living that close can cause a signal overload issue. It's weird that I cannot get WPRI and the transmitter is within walking distance from me, but WBZ/WFXT come in for me rock solid.

Again, Sonic, you're having bad overload.

Yes, he will also see that overload. A rooftop antenna would be good for Boston but it would be terrible for the Providence stations in Rehoboth.

Again, Sonic, you're having bad overload.

Yes, he will also see that overload. A rooftop antenna would be good for Boston but it would be terrible for the Providence stations in Rehoboth.

Quick question - which Providence stations run on VHF and which ones run on UHF? Don't 12/64 run on VHF while everything else runs on UHF?

Is VHF more suspectable to overload or something?

Quick question - which Providence stations run on VHF and which ones run on UHF? Don't 12/64 run on VHF while everything else runs on UHF? Is VHF more suspectable to overload or something?
Here's a link to all the New England TV stations and what channels they are on:
http://www.necrat.us/dtv.html

VHF also has the tendency to have more problems with multi-path - which is when you receive signal not only directly from the transmitter site but also a reflection of that signal from somewhere else (terrain, buildings, etc.) that in effect causes interference to itself. I live about 13 miles (line of sight) from a local VHF DTV station and am unable to receive it due to multi-path issues.

Does anyone here who receives OTA TV notice that WLNE-DT give off a brighter picture than the other Providence stations (especially when viewing the news), but also has more momentary picture break ups, especially at night?

They run HOT, so hot that the local news has audio issues with buzzing ect on cable, not able to recive wlne ota.

:confused:Hi I'm a newbie & don't really understand a lot of this technical stuff. I have Fios in my home but have purchased a camper that will is at a seasonal location in North Scituate, RI. The area has lots of trees. I am trying to find out what would be the best antenna to recieve the maximum number of channels. i was referred to Antennaweb.org which said I needed a large directional antenna with pre-amp and there were only 2 channels definitely available. Then I found TVfool.com which shows I should be able to receive a lot of other stations but I am not sure if I still need the large antenna or not.
Please help me find the best antenna for my location. Thanks in advance for any help.
Barbara

Please double-check your TVFool report by choosing the start MAPS option at the home page. Ensure that the pointer icon on the map that is returned is actually on your location. Zoom in the map and drag the pointer as necessary. Check the antenna height to be sure it's as high as you will mount your antenna, then select the radar plot button above the map. Share the URL of the resulting report with us so we can help you.

Is there any of the providence stations going hd for local news? I have been noticing alot of splash screens, etc for wpri 12

What's the deal with their closing/delay graphics. Does it really need to fill like 30% of the viewing area. Most being simply filled with a cheap looking wallpaper. Somebody get's paid for decisions like this?

10's closing graphic is still in SD to make the PQ even more worse...

That station still thinks we're broadcasting TV in the 80s/90s.

Verizon user wondering when FIOS will be offering a larger DVR? I had heard that using an external hard drive was going to be an option, up to 1 TB. Vz says no but the customer svc person may not know. They have said that a larger HD would be out in a few weeks. But that is vague.

What's the deal with their closing/delay graphics. Does it really need to fill like 30% of the viewing area. Most being simply filled with a cheap looking wallpaper. Somebody get's paid for decisions like this?

It really is THAT bad. My wife and I were laughing outloud when they interrupted THE OFFICE in HD to go back to that SD delay/cancel roll. And not only that they kept THE OFFICE in 16:9 so I think literally 60% of the picture at that moment wasn't devoted to the actual program on-screen!

It really is THAT bad. My wife and I were laughing outloud when they interrupted THE OFFICE in HD to go back to that SD delay/cancel roll. And not only that they kept THE OFFICE in 16:9 so I think literally 60% of the picture at that moment wasn't devoted to the actual program on-screen!

It makes you question how WJAR is still #1 in the majority of the ratings. WPRI is breathing down their neck and if WJAR doesn't do anything I think WPRI will eventually leapfrog them in more timeslots. They must be #1 because they have a colorful NBC logo next to their channel number...

Can't they at least make it a bar at the bottom of the screen like all other normal TV stations do? The graphic looks like one of those old scoring graphics you'd see during sports games from the 90s:

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2519/scorebugr.th.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/scorebugr.jpg/)

Sorry but if your closings graphic compares to something designed in the 90s then you really need to start questioning the decisions you make at that station.

Pretty sure it makes you happy that you can snatch WHDH outta the air. Also, compare the sound quality between WJAR and WHDH during NBC network programming. The difference isn't even close. Makes me happy that Comcast provides WHDH in HD here over in Attleboro.

There are just so many things wrong at WJAR. It'd hard to find a place where to start, but it'd be so fun teeing off at that station. I seriously think they're on borrowed time with the ratings right now.

One other thing, WLNE (you know, the bankrupt TV station that's up for sale) is capable of inserting on screen graphics onto network programming without breaking out of HD. Sure, they're not exactly dazzling graphics, but it doesn't ruin the picture quality. WJAR should let that sink in (that a bankrupt TV station that is a distant third in the market is more technologically advanced than they are).

Hi, I am thinking of buying an antenna and dropping cable. I was wondering how the Providence stations are OTA with their guides? Want to make sure I can have my season pass on all channels

Thanks

RE: Providence OTA Guides

The Guide meta data info is good, it's just all these Prov. stations have a history of switching between HD & SD during any given broadcast, especially sporting events... drives me nuts...

if you can - try to point your antenna and get the Boston stations, better quality and for my money much better HD experience. I'm in southern RI, outdoor antenna with amplifier - comes in perfect.

but to your question - GUIDE data is fine for Providence stations, for recurring events/season pass, etc....

- Mitchman

Hi, I am thinking of buying an antenna and dropping cable. I was wondering how the Providence stations are OTA with their guides? Want to make sure I can have my season pass on all channels

Thanks

I have a DTVPAL in a spare room and find it's guide to be right most of the time. Pretty sure it builds with PSIP data.

I cut the cord a few years back and setup a HTPC running SageTV for OTA DVR and Online content (hulu,netflix). No regrets.

I have a DTVPAL in a spare room and find it's guide to be right most of the time. Pretty sure it builds with PSIP data.

I cut the cord a few years back and setup a HTPC running SageTV for OTA DVR and Online content (hulu,netflix). No regrets.

How quickly does DTVPAL update with changes in the program guide from the station? Say I update a listing for the 8pm show on my station, how quickly will DTVPAL reflect the change?

How quickly does DTVPAL update with changes in the program guide from the station? Say I update a listing for the 8pm show on my station, how quickly will DTVPAL reflect the change?

It scans at power on and about every 8 hours when off.

RE: Providence OTA Guides

The Guide meta data info is good, it's just all these Prov. stations have a history of switching between HD & SD during any given broadcast, especially sporting events... drives me nuts...

if you can - try to point your antenna and get the Boston stations, better quality and for my money much better HD experience. I'm in southern RI, outdoor antenna with amplifier - comes in perfect.

but to your question - GUIDE data is fine for Providence stations, for recurring events/season pass, etc....

- Mitchman

I was going to try and get away with mounting the antenna in the attic. Looks like I will need to buy an amplifier and give Boston stations a shot. I assume to have a directional antenna?

Holy crap! Left Channel10 on and they're showing Extra in HD! I'm so proud of you NBC10 for entering the 21st century!!! :) ABC6 doesn't show any syndicated programs that are in HD anyway so who cares about them.

Yes, and I saw Oprah in HD on WJAR.

I was hoping they'd kinda get to the problem where their station ID causes the program to break out of HD, but I checked the other night and of course that still hasn't been looked at...

They're still a pretty laughable station from a technical standpoint...