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Is there any yet?

I've got nothing to add to my original statement.

This thread will be pretty weak if it is dedicated just to RI stations that will broadcast in digital... We'll keep waiting and waiting... so far the deadline just keeps getting pushed back.

I live in Southern RI and can get all of the Boston digital channels with my OTA and an amplifier. Do you think any RI station will be able to maintain and troubleshoot a fuly functional digital TV station? I look through these threads at what Bob Hess (Boston) does to keep up and I am a little hesitate to think anyone here can do it....!

Who knows....

Mitchman

Maybe we'll find out soon if the FCC ever gives WPRI the go ahead to flip its digital switch.

Wjar can't even respond to a email Q I sent regarding HDTV. Thank god for Boston!!

It apparently exists now.

Bob Hess reports WPRI is testing in the Boston thread.

I'm getting a 100% signal from WPRI-DT on my Hughes and an 82% on my DTC-100. This bodes well for receiving the Rhody stations down here in Taunton. I believe the tower is 1 town over in Rehoboth.

Just got it tonight- 3 PSID's. an HD- currently SD while awaiting the HD gear from CBS, a Wx (regional radar) and an SD.

I'mon the East side of Taunton near Middleboro and the recpetion is Rock solid.

Tim

100% on my Hughes, 93% on MyHD, can't wait for the quality to increase, but atleast they are on the air.

Jim

What channel is WPRI-dt ? I can get stations from 80 miles at night so I may have a shot. Are they at full power 24/7 ?

Originally posted by lomax
What channel is WPRI-dt ? I can get stations from 80 miles at night so I may have a shot. Are they at full power 24/7 ?

13.1, they are definitely not at full power I believe.

Jim

I'm able to pull in Channel 13 here in Cambridge. I couldn't lock the signal with my Silver Sensor, but the $3 Rat Shack bowtie out the window did the trick, albeit with frequent dropouts. (For comparison, analog 12 is pretty much unwatchable).

I bet with a proper VHF antenna it wouldn't be too difficult to pull the station in.

What's your opinion of the image on 12-1? I consider it rather crappy. No comparison with 4-1. I can get analog 12 and that's better than 12-1.

I only saw "Montel Williams" this morning, and most of those talk shows are sporting close to VHS quality anyway. I wasn't particularly impressed, but I don't think that's a good source to be comparing the two stations with. I'll look again when there's the same thing on both stations.

WBZ always looks good, even with the analog upconverts, and is much easier to pull in.

12-1 is quite soft to me as well, however that may be due to a lack of equipment at PRI's head end.

I just heard that Fox will be doing HD in 2004.

Tim

Originally posted by tcable


I just heard that Fox will be doing HD in 2004.


Tim

That's great. I can't get 25-1 and 64-1 doesn't exist yet.

---------- e-mail from ABC6 Program Director ------------
You are receiving this email because you expressed an interest in WLNE-DT broadcasts. You may remember that my last update indicated that we hoped to be on the air in August. Unfortunately, that will not occur. Construction delays, as well as delays in equipment delivery, will push back the construction process into the fall, possibly as late as November. Although we do have our DTV transmitter, and many of the other items we need to begin broadcasting, we still await the manufacture of our antenna - obviously a critical component!

As a reminder, we will be broadcasting our DTV signal from Rehoboth. (Analog Channel 6 will continue to be broadcast from Tiverton.) Initially, we will pass through all ABC network programming that originates in the 720p HDTV format. We will upconvert local and all other programming into the digital format, so our entire line-up will be available on WLNE-DT, channel 49.

Thank you for your patience,

Kingsley Kelley
ABC6/WLNE

Betcha 6-1 is up and running with HDTV before 12-1 gets its HD receiver from CBS. Talk about dragging your a$$e$.

Has the PRI signal changed at all of late? I have not been able to recieve WPRI DT in about a month now. I did recieve it initially without issues.

I wonder whay it takes so long to get teh transmitter- I can understand installationissues and the like, but the antanna is still a fairly simple piece of hardware!

Tim

I think even if WPRI get's their HD receiver, it will still look like cr@p, those subchannels are killing them.

Jim

Tim...we don't live very far apart and I continue to get 100% signal strength on PRI with my Hughes receiver. The antenna is aimed towards Needham. So they have a very powerful signal in this area.

Jim...I agree their 1080i upconverted image is rather crappy, especially compared to WBZ.

Anyone care to speculate when Cox might bring HD cable to RI?

eggz...why would they.There is no HD in Rhode Island.

I guess I'll need to look at the antenna again. Mine's pointed toward Needham too. and AFAIK, unchanged from when I did recieve PRI.

Tim

Originally posted by eggz
Anyone care to speculate when Cox might bring HD cable to RI?

Hmmm, Cox Cable and HD, Maybe in 2 years, just a guess.

BTW, I booted them as of July 1st when they dropped the $10 discount on the package deal, they are lame for Video IMO, cable modem and phone, well that is their strong point.

Jim

WPRI DT is still on the air.

Originally posted by vfrjim
BTW, I booted them as of July 1st when they dropped the $10 discount on the package deal
Jim:

They haven't dropped my discount. Did you make a change to any of your services, that is the only way I know of that would make you lose your discount.

Originally posted by Rodney
Jim:

They haven't dropped my discount. Did you make a change to any of your services, that is the only way I know of that would make you lose your discount.

They sent out the notice that if you did not have the extended basic package (or higher) that as of July 1st that they would not offer a $10 discount (I only used them for the basic package (up to channel 25) which was $10.70/month and they gave a $10 discount which netted it for .70/month) Since I only was using them for locals (I have D*TV), I tossed them.

Jim

Although this is not a new problem, but in Southern RI I am amazed how the Fox (25.1) Signal is all over the place. SOme nights it's strong signal (60-70) and last night it's 28-30 and unwatchable.

I know weather and atmospheric conditions play a part - but I am convinced it's the Fox station doing it. I don't know. Their signal just sucks.

Mitchman

Originally posted by Mitchman333
Although this is not a new problem, but in Southern RI I am amazed how the Fox (25.1) Signal is all over the place. SOme nights it's strong signal (60-70) and last night it's 28-30 and unwatchable.

I know weather and atmospheric conditions play a part - but I am convinced it's the Fox station doing it. I don't know. Their signal just sucks.

Mitchman

Fox is not broadcasting at full power I believe and that has a lot to do with it.

I know for one thing, 2 of my tuners have no problems with Fox and the other 2 are like you described.

Jim

Mitchman...I usually get anywhere from an unwatchable 25-30 to a good 50 or 60. I believe it is atmospheric. I also think that WFXT is at its current highest allowable power by the FCC. This should change in a few years when all the stations lose their analog channels and have just one signal.

Originally posted by Benji
Mitchman...I usually get anywhere from an unwatchable 25-30 to a good 50 or 60. I believe it is atmospheric. I also think that WFXT is at its current highest allowable power by the FCC. This should change in a few years when all the stations lose their analog channels and have just one signal.

I held off getting upset with Fox (25.1) but now I can no longer receive any signal above 20-25, which is unwatchable. here's the trouble I have with the atmospheric explanation. Last year I watched a bunch of NFL games and several Fox shows (i.e. "24") on 25.1 in widescreen, we had some hiccups from time to time - but Now NOTHING!

Should I just give up on this channel and hope Providence gets the Fox affiliate up and running in the next 5 years. This sucks. My HDTV receiver is built into my RCS HD65W20 TV.... so it's similar to the DTC100.. any suggestions...

Mitchman

I have the same problem with my RCA F38310. One possible solution is getting Comcast. They are now carrying WFXT-DT but I'm not sure Comcast is available in Providence. Aside from that, either wait for WNAC to go digital or subscribe to NFL Sunday Ticket and receive 2 FOX high res widescreen games every week.

Gentlemen,

I am in Fall River and have a 4 bay bowtie antenns in the attic with a Sammy TS-165 recv'r and I get 25-1 consistently at 70%. So maybe I am crazy but the atmosphere does play tricks on us some times.

I ended up upgrading my antenna from a CM 4228 to a CM 4248 and it seems to have solved my problems, especially with the E86 receiver which can be tempermental at times.

PS: anyone needing a 4228, PM me for a deal on it :)

Jim

Originally posted by Insaneharleyguy
Gentlemen,

I am in Fall River and have a 4 bay bowtie antenns in the attic with a Sammy TS-165 recv'r and I get 25-1 consistently at 70%. So maybe I am crazy but the atmosphere does play tricks on us some times.

Certainly atmosphere plays a part - bad weather tends to get poor reception. My comments originally were trying to state that after receiving 25.1 for well over a year (good weather/bad weather), now I can no longer get above 30% reading. I have a feeling it is an RCA receiver issue. Sounds like the F38310 and my HD65W20 have problems dialing this in.... oh well.

Sounds like some of the other receivers (i.e. TS-165) do well.

Mitchman

Not sure when Providence CBS (12.1) started Broadcasting in Hi-Def..... (they have had their digital channels 12.1, 12.2, 12.3 up for a little while now.

Anyway, I noticed CSI tonight was broadcast in widescreen/HDTV - looked great.

Hell has froze over, "Little Rhody" gets a legit Hi-Def channel... :)

Mitchman

Got a message on my TiVO this AM saying that ESPN HD, Showtime HD and Discovery HD were being added to Cox (channels 710, 711, 720, 721) -- the Cox website for RI states that HD is being added for $9.95/mo. Haven't called for details yet, but I am assuming there is little hope of getting local HD broadcasts (PRI, WBZ, etc.) ... is that a fair assumption?

I have the Cox RI HD service. I was told the next additions to the channel lineup would be WPRI and PBSHD. No timeline was given.

jcmitch

As some may know WJAR-NBC was recently cited by the FCC for being so tardy on getting the digital station broadcasting. The main excuse was the tower they transmit from needed more work than originally thought. Anyway, I just received this response from WJAR when I inquired when to expect their digital station to be running:

Thank you for your interest in this exciting project. We have worked diligently to complete this process to enhance our viewers television viewing experience. We have always planned and remain on track for WJAR to make the digital transition by year's end. Weather permitting or any other unforeseen issues beyond our control, the modification work to the tower is expected to be completed at the end of December. Thank you again for turning to NBC 10. Please contact us should you have any further questions.

I wouldn't hold my breath on the year end statement. Just thought I would keep you posted.

Mitchman

I've compared PRI and WCVB both OTA and WCVB via Comcast here in Taunton. PRI loses on the HD quality- definately more grainy on any given show.

Tim

------------------ another follow up from WJAR -----------------
WJAR was ready to proceed with the DTV implementation as prescribed by the FCC mandated timeline of May of 2002.

However, WLNE ABC6 was able to get FCC approval to co-locate with WJAR in Rehoboth, MA in January 2002 as a tenant at WJAR's transmission facility in that locale. Co-location has been a strategy very much endorsed by the FCC to lessen the financial and in some cases community zoning burdens DTV imposes to broadcast operators. The addition of a tenant changed all of WJAR's plans and brought everything back to the drawing board, literally.

The transmitter facilities and building required extensive modification to include, now, two new tenants (WSBE, the local PBS, is the second). This work has been underway much of this year. Also, required is modification to the existing transmission tower. The project has taken longer than anticipated, but in the end, we will have a product that the community expects form WJAR. We hope to be broadcasting by mid to late December if the weather holds out long enough for the tower modifications to be completed safely by the company performing the work.
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Mitchman

Good to hear. I hope WJAR will be passing thru HD programming from NBC, unlike WPRI which only seems to do the NFL game on Sunday in HD.

We have been robbed of one of the top ten media markets in the country by Cox and given the low-end media market with WPRI and WLNE. Its officially, the admonishment by the FCC last week of NBC WJAR makes them one of if not the biggest HD deadbeat in the country.

This monopoly given them by being Cox cable locals gives these locals a let the people eat static attitude. Come-on, do you believe these phonies? Do you think they would get away with this garbage if we still had the choice of WBZ and WCVB? Stop acting like their sorry cousin, even if you are (Small State) and tell them to join the rest of the world.

Call the locals and get good and mad.

Call Cox and demand HD locals and do it now and stop squinting!

Originally posted by Joe3
We have been robbed of one of the top ten media markets in the country by Cox and given the low-end media market with WPRI and WLNE. Its officially, the admonishment by the FCC last week of NBC WJAR makes them one of if not the biggest HD deadbeat in the country.

This monopoly given them by being Cox cable locals gives these locals a let the people eat static attitude. Come-on, do you believe these phonies? Do you think they would get away with this garbage if we still had the choice of WBZ and WCVB? Stop acting like their sorry cousin, even if you are (Small State) and tell them to join the rest of the world.

Call the locals and get good and mad.

Call Cox and demand HD locals and do it now and stop squinting!

Being the smallest state makes us exempt for doing the right thing, thankfully I do NOT care about the locals and really enjoy the Boston stations, put up an antenna and stick your middle finger up at the RI stations and Cox too, IMO.

Jim

:cool:

Call Cox and demand HD locals and do it now and stop squinting!

Demand as a paying Cox Cable subscriber you want the network HD feeds that are available thur OTA, we have enough boxes!

If not now, when?

If not us, who?

Cox Cable
401-383-2000
401-383-2000


WJAR / Ch 10 NBC
23 Kenney Dr
Cranston, RI 02920
401-455-9100

WLNE / Ch 6 ABC
10 Orms St
Providence, RI 02904
401-453-8000

WNAC / Ch 64 FOX
25 Catamore Blvd
East Providence, RI 02914
401-438-7200

WPRI / Ch 12 CBS
25 Catamore Blvd
East Providence, RI 02914

With the exception of WPRI, none the rest of those channels are broadcasting in HD (or digitally) yet. Cox can't supply you with something that doesn't exist.

:rolleyes:

The Must Carry rules apply to analog and Cox is complying. However, there is no rule saying once Cox is in compliance with analog that we have to wait for the Rhode Island HD deadbeats stations to get network HD. They can give us local HD via WCVB, WGBH, WHDH, WLVI etc. Make some noise and stop squinting!:cool:

Has any one experienced any anomolies in the reception for 12.1, .2, .3? I have two receivers: one integrated in my Zenith C32V37 HDTV and another in my new Sony SAT-HD300. The signal strength on the sony is bad (~20%) while the signal strength on the zenith is consistently good (~80%)? I also have a similar problem on 25.1 but its worse (~0% and ~80% respectively). I've got a CM 4228 w/ a high gain preamp up on the chimney and I'm on Aquidneck island. Since the reception is good on the zenith and bad on the sony I am tempted to assume the sony is bad but I want to rule out any xmtr problems.

I live in Mystic, CT and get pretty good reception in WPRI with several receivers. Some possibilites the Zeinith may be more sensitive-the newest settop boxes from them have a good reputation. You could get a better signal with a VHF antenna on channel 13. Also sometimes preamps degrade the signal from overload perhaps not even TV signals, FM radio pagers etc. so removing it may improve some channels.. John

kirk,

Sounds like you might have got a bad tuner. I haven't had any problems on channel 25 recently.

Just seems weird that digital 30 and 13 don't work but all other functions do. Could you check your signal levels tonight and let me know if these two channels are significantly below the others. I guess I'll look into a new receiver.

That is strange. The Sony box is actually made by LG, as is the tuner in the Zenith (which is owned by LG), so I'd think the tuners themselves should be very similar if not identical. I would expect them to perform very similarly, which is why I'm guessing there's a fault in the Sony box.

But stranger things have happenned.

Good luck.

I don't get 13 (not strong enough to pick up indoors in Cambridge), but 25 has signal levels that are similar to all the other stations.

I am trying to determine if I have an issue on my end - Sunday afternoon I got NOTHING from the FOX (25.1) Boston affiliate. Usually I receive even a faint reading from that station, but it was flatlined. All of the other surrounding Boston stations came in fine.

Curious if anyone else had the same problem.

Thanks.

Mitchman

Originally posted by Mitchman333
I am trying to determine if I have an issue on my end - Sunday afternoon I got NOTHING from the FOX (25.1) Boston affiliate. Usually I receive even a faint reading from that station, but it was flatlined. All of the other surrounding Boston stations came in fine.

Curious if anyone else had the same problem.

Thanks.

Mitchman

Fox (25.1) was also dead here in Postmouth yesterday (on both my Zenith TV and the Sony STB).
I also got a second SAT-HD300 over the weekend (Sony outlet had B-stock for 499) and it works the same as the other on I had (no signal level on 25.1 and no station available for 12.1,.2,.3)

Is anyone else using the HD300 successfully on those two stations?

Originally posted by kirkvolk
Fox (25.1) was also dead here in Postmouth yesterday (on both my Zenith TV and the Sony STB).
I also got a second SAT-HD300 over the weekend (Sony outlet had B-stock for 499) and it works the same as the other on I had (no signal level on 25.1 and no station available for 12.1,.2,.3)

Is anyone else using the HD300 successfully on those two stations?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=2968397#post2968397

I solved my reception problem on 12.1! CBS is using channel 13 which is a VHF station not a UHF therefore my CM4228 and 7775 preamp weren't helping at all. As a matter of fact, the UHF preamp was probably causing the AGC in the STB and TV to compensate for the higher UHF signals so that the lower VHF level from 13 was outside the dynamic range of the receiver (it was interesting that I could receive 12.1 when I removed the preamp from the system). Anyway, now I have both a UHF and a VHF antenna and I am receiving all programming great (except FOX). I had always assumed that all digital programming was in the UHF band - apparently I was wrong.

:rolleyes:

WPRI Providence is only at Active Special Temporary Authority (STAs) to Operate. WPRI Providence has not been granted full authority. They may not have a signal at full strength. I still think we need to get more active in Rhode Island if we are going to get clear network HD feeds. Some of us can't pick up Boston HD stations over the air.

Originally posted by Joe3
:rolleyes:
I still think we need to get more active in Rhode Island if we are going to get clear network HD feeds. Some of us can't pick up Boston HD stations over the air.

I write to these stations monthly bugging them on upates..... At least now they know what I am talking about - for the first year it was Digital TV, huh.....?????

Here is a couple of people who have actually followed up with comments and updates:
Smith, Clark (NBC, WJAR) [Clark.Smith@nbc.com]
Kingsley Kelley [KKelley@abc6.com]

PS: I still think you might want to figure out how to get Boston digi-channels first..... I live way on Southern RI and I do fine with a yaggi ant. and pre. amplifier. My gut is RI will be way behind any deadlines and even when stations do go live it will be sporadic at best.

Mitchman

;)

Thanks for the information!

The key is that more people need to get more active and complain to the locals and to Cox. Contact the FCC and the national networks and tell them what's going on with these locals. CBS should be worried about how their products are being handled by these carpet-bagging greedy leeches at WPRI.

For instance, WPRI, at 3 minutes to 4pm on Thanksgiving Day before the Dallas and Miami game showed they have no class or respect for themselves or their audiences. WPRI cut a network feed of a Bill Parcells interview to fill their greedy pockets by shoving more of their local advertisements and then dropped the feed back live in mid sentence of a new network segment. We are being ripped-off all the way around. Unless we make noise about the poor delivery of all RI local HD signals and lack of, they will continue to bottom feed at our expense. We would not take this from bungling movers who deliver a TV scratched and dented to our door.

Federal Communications Commission
445 12th Street SW
Washington, DC 20554
More FCC Contact Information...

The CBS Television Network
51 W. 52nd St.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: 212-975-4321
Fax: 212-975-4516

http://www.cbs.com



Unfortunately, I am in a multi-dwelling complex in a valley that can not even receive an over the air local single, let alone Boston.

Finally, a thread with Little Rhody in mind.

Mitchman (or anybody else), question for you.

I'm fairly new to DTV but have been studying up for a while. I finally received Cox HD in November and was one to miss out on the CH 12 HD Super Bowl feed. I almost sprung for the OTA receiver then but was too stubborn for only one game.

So, now I find this thread and it seems that some of you are getting some Boston DT feeds.

I live in North Kingstown and I have an old RS roof antenna with Rotor. I know it was useless for Boston VHF and most RI UHF stations last time I played with it.

So spring $5-600 for and OTA receiver and antenna, or "just hang in there" and wait for Cox or Direct TV to come through?

Titan TV says, I should be able to get these stations with an 88" Prostar antenna w/ pre-amp.



call ch network city live?

PAX 17 WPXQ-DT BLOCK ISLAND RI No
PBS 21 WSBE-DT PROVIDENCE RI No
ABC 49 WLNE-DT NEW BEDFORD MA No
NBC 51 WJAR-DT PROVIDENCE RI No
FOX 54 WNAC-DT PROVIDENCE RI No
CBS 13 WPRI-DT PROVIDENCE RI Yes
UPN 22 WLWC-DT NEW BEDFORD MA No
PBS 45 WEDN-DT NORWICH CT Yes
SAH 52 WWDP-DT NORWELL MA Yes
PAX 34 WHPX-DT NEW LONDON CT Yes
FOX 31 WFXT-DT BOSTON MA Yes
WB 41 WLVI-DT CAMBRIDGE MA Yes
SAH 18 WMFP-DT LAWRENCE MA No
DAY 47 WYDN-DT WORCESTER MA No
UPN 39 WSBK-DT BOSTON MA Yes
PBS 19 WGBH-DT BOSTON MA Yes
PBS 43 WGBX-DT BOSTON MA Yes
CBS 30 WBZ-DT BOSTON MA Yes
ABC 20 WCVB-DT BOSTON MA Yes
NBC 42 WHDH-DT BOSTON MA Yes
UNI 29 WUNI-DT WORCESTER MA Yes
UNI 23 WUTF-DT MARLBOROUGH MA Yes


Thanks,


Bob

Bob

So, now I find this thread and it seems that some of you are getting some Boston DT feeds.

I live in North Kingstown and I have an old RS roof antenna with Rotor. I know it was useless for Boston VHF and most RI UHF stations last time I played with it.

So spring $5-600 for and OTA receiver and antenna, or "just hang in there" and wait for Cox or Direct TV to come through?

I live in NK as well and I have a cheap ($20) Radio Shack UHF antenna with a 25 dB pre-amp and I get all of the Boston channels you listed rock solid. The UHF antenna is important since most of the channels are above the 13 range. I would absolutely get an HD-OTA tuner (I have seen them for $250-350 recently) and get hooked up. I have seen some open box specials at BB recently for $199...

I am not a fan of Cox Communications to begin with - the fact that OTA is free and several channels broadcast in 5.1 sound - makes it a winner for me. And yes the Superbowl was awesome in HD and the Daytona 500 in HD this weekend will be awesome too....

I don't doubt Cox will add more channels (NBC yesterday) it's nice having a backup to any cable interuptions.

Send me a PM if you have any specific questions as it relates to our location in Rhody.

Mitchman

Thanks for the quick response, Mitchman. I'll take you up on your offer when I'm ready to buy.

First, Mrs R gets a new kitchen set. That's the deal.

:rolleyes:

To keep this in the Rhode Island thread . . .

Quick question on CBS feed for DirecTV:

I know that the New York and LA CBS feeds are available in HDTV for DirecTV (and that WPRI-12 is not broadcasting in high-definition through DirecTV). Can/should I be eligible to receive the New York feed because WPRI-12 hasn't gone to DirecTV with their HDTV signal, or will I be forced to get an antenna because Channel 12 has HDTV available O.T.A.?

I already pay extra $$ to get my locals on DirecTV so should I have to spend money on a separate antenna just to get CBS in a format I want (when I already pay DirecTV to get CBS anyway)? Please let me know of anyone who has had success (or lack thereof) with this issue.

Thanks

Just a personal opinion...not likely WPRI would give anyone residing in RI a waiver. Their OTA signal is very strong and easy to pick up with a cheap indoor antenna.

Thanks! Good to know. Haven't done an ounce of research on the OTA stuff yet, but if I can get it with an indoor, that's big!

Hello again,

Having major problems getting Channel 12 in high definition. This is my first attempt with OTA reception, so there's probably something obvious I'm not doing.

I have a Sony HD-200 receiver for both Directv and OTA. I'm trying to tune in channel 12-1 which comes up with the label WPRI-Digital (or something similar) then says channel not available. I have an amplified antenna connected to Antenna in on the back of the receiver and am only one town away (Johnston). What am I overlooking?

Thanks, Jamie

Is your antenna a VHF/UHF antenna? Channel 12-1 actually is on 13-1, a VHF channel. I'm not completely certain but I believe the transmitter for digital 12 is in Rehoboth,Ma. Try aiming your rabbit airs in that direction. Then do a channel search. I pick up a 100% signal on my RCA DTC100 in Taunton.

Benji - is it true you were able to eliminate analog ch 5 from your ota guide in the dtc100 ? If so can you repeat the steps to make that happen ? or better yet - email me @jalferes2000@hotmail.com

Thanks

john

Originally posted by jalferes
Benji - is it true you were able to eliminate analog ch 5 from your ota guide in the dtc100 ? If so can you repeat the steps to make that happen ? or better yet - email me @jalferes2000@hotmail.com

Thanks

john Actually I can't eliminate analog ch.5. The station sends PSIP data for the analog channel and that keeps it in the DTC100. The other Boston channels don't do that so you can eliminate their analog channels...except for ch. 2 which also sends PSIP on the analog 2.

Well I finally bought an HDTV and yesterday the Cox guys showed up with the HD Cable Box. So far Im fairly happy with it other than the lack of channels which hopefully will get worked on soon. I've been keeping up to date with the various issues surrounding it and its very frustrating. I live in the third floor of a large mill building with a floor above me, and over the air reception will probably be very poor here so Im limited in my options. So heres hoping cox and everyone else gets their act together.

On the funny side the cox guys had no idea what to make of my home theater. Its all in a cabinet and I already pulled the old digital box and had the shelf ready with all the cables for the new one. Granted I have an unusual setup, but they looked lost! It was very funny. I cant beleive I had to pay the 50 bucks and they wouldnt let me come pick it up.

Basically I route the composite video out to my zone 2 setup, the s video out to Tivo, the component video out to the reciever and then to the tv, digital audio out to receiver, rca audio out to tivo. Anyway, its a lot of cables. Last time cox showed up they didnt want to let me touch anything. So I decided not to argue and let their guys do it. So he goes behind the rack and stares at it for a while. He asks a few questions and I answer them. He still looks lost. So I ask him if he minds if I do it. He says no. So I hooked it all up for him (now why am I paying for this?) and it works great. He then asks a million questions about my setup, how I route everything, how tivo works etc..etc... So I paid 50 bucks to give him a lesson in home theater setup. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed him the pronto. Im guessing he mostly hooks up cable boxes directly to TVs. He didnt even know that SPDIF was the digital audio out. Yikes... anyway, Im happy to join the ranks of HDTV. It ROCKS! Now give me more of it!!!!

Congratulations! Unfortunately Rhody blows in so far as HDTV is concerned. What does Cox carry besides WJAR-DT? Maybe WPRI will come on board eventually but their multicasting seriously degrades their non-HDTV programming.

Originally posted by Benji
Unfortunately Rhody blows in so far as HDTV is concerned. What does Cox carry besides WJAR-DT

Thats why I dumped Cox, got an Echostar/Dish 6000 nearly 4 years ago, and have an OTA antenna pointed at the Boston towers! I get every network here in Warwick.

Howard

Originally posted by RI_Pilot
Thats why I dumped Cox, got an Echostar/Dish 6000 nearly 4 years ago, and have an OTA antenna pointed at the Boston towers! I get every network here in Warwick.

Howard Someday RI TV stations will enter the 21st century.

The 2 Locals that are not on Cox Cable in HD have no incentive to give the viewing public anything. They can take their sweet time as long as Cox is forced to carry them. If Cox Cable was not forced to carry the Locals, they could bring in the Network feeds from Boston's channel 5 & 4 or directly or any owner operated network affiliate. This would force the Locals to compete not for ratings, but higher broadcast standards. They don’t have to bother with such standards as better broadcast quality because they get to free load off a law that forces Cable to carry them. Cable can not make the best choice based on these standards. We get ripped-off big time!

Right now the FCC is reviewing the law that forces all Cable to carry Locals. I say we should way in and tell the FCC this should not be regulated any longer. Anyone who can't live without WPRI or that other Broadcaster who is not worth the mention can get it OTA thur an antenna.

Let the Cox decide what Station to carry to deliver Network HD!

Let them know how we feel. We pay their salary.

Chairman Michael K. Powell: Michael.Powell@fcc.gov
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy: Kathleen.Abernathy@fcc.gov
Commissioner Michael J. Copps: Michael.Copps@fcc.gov
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin: KJMWEB@fcc.gov
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: Jonathan.Adelstein@fcc.gov

Hmmm... all this stuff about over the air makes me curious. Im tempted to try purchasing an OTA tuner and give it a shot with an indoor antenna. I cant put one on the roof as Im on the third floor of a four floor building, and my landlord will never let it go. Anyone have any recommendations as to antennas and any other needed accessories? What tuners are working well for you rhode island guys?

Thanks!

If your in a multi-dwelling unit, apartment, condo. There is not too much you can do. Signals bounce around like rabbits making good reception difficult.

Cover all your bases. I would email the FCC, start complaining about this Must-Carry Law, and Cable will be free to get us the quality network programming in HD we deserve. Sending an email will not cost and you may achieve your result cheaper down the road.

FCC:

Chairman Michael K. Powell: Michael.Powell@fcc.gov
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy: Kathleen.Abernathy@fcc.gov
Commissioner Michael J. Copps: Michael.Copps@fcc.gov
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin: KJMWEB@fcc.gov
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: Jonathan.Adelstein@fcc.gov

WJAR-DT is no longer listed at Titantv.com as a future digital station. Just wondering if they have gone OTA yet. Anyone receiving a signal on 51-1? I know I'm not getting anything in Taunton. I get WPRI which is VHF and don't want to mess with my antenna which is perfectly positioned for Boston UHF's. WJAR was scheduled to go OTA April 1st.

No signal here either.

Nothing here either on JAR but also noted the inclusion in Titan and also Zap2it altho no programming info is listed on Zap.

WJAR-DT is up and running OTA on 51-1 with a fairly strong signal in southeastern Mass. But they are passing through the SD version of NBC programming.

Yep, definitely a stronger signal then WPRI-DT, well hopefully they get a HD signal to pass soon.

Jim...what is your signal strength? I'm getting a 60 on my DTC100 with my UHF facing towards Needham and away from Rehoboth. I get a strong signal on WPRI but that is using rabbit ears.

I get 79-93 with my E86 for WJAR-DT, usually 51 for WPRI-DT, but then again, I am aimed at WLVI-DT (36 degrees from me) and get a 51 signal for them. This is using a CM 4248 at 5 ft above my chimney.

Jim

ABC providence channel 49 is also on the air.

When I got home today I tried to pull up channel 10 which was found on the search but when I went to view the channel I got no signal. Now later tonight I have done another search for stations and it does not find the station at all. Anyone else having trouble with channel 10.

joe

No trouble with either WJAR (51) or WLNE (49-3 and 49-4) - both in SD. No audio on 49-4

Just a note we will be turning off WJAR-DT and WLNE-DT during the day for extended periods so we can complete the installation of WSBE-DT’s antenna for the next week or so but will be back on by 5PM. If the weather is bad we will leave it on.

Mark

OH NO, not more sub-channels, I thought 12-1,-2,-3 was bad enough, do not tell me that the other RI stations are going to do the same thing, it looks like $hit. Thankfully MA stations are not as bad.

Originally posted by WJAR Engineer
Just a note we will be turning off WJAR-DT and WLNE-DT during the day for extended periods so we can complete the installation of WSBE-DT’s antenna for the next week or so but will be back on by 5PM. If the weather is bad we will leave it on.

Mark

GREAT to see a rep from WJAR-DT. Thanks for your input, and an excellent HD picture tonight on Law and Order.

Getting excellent signal strength on both WLNE and WJAR. In fact, that's by far the best I have ever seen WLNE. Their analog signal over the years has been pathetic. My DTC-100 doesn't often register anything higher than 70. I'm getting an 82 for WLNE and a 70 for WJAR. I get about 78 for WPRI.

Mark of WJAR,
I live in Mystic CT,which is just about 50 miles airline from the WJAR tower. I am receiving both WJAR and WLNE. I watched most of the West Wing last night, and had a few dropouts of a few seconds, probably from propagation variations. WLNE is slightly stronger than WJAR which is surprising since the FCC info on WJAR DT indicates 974 KW and only 240 to 350 KW for WLNE DT. Both on the numerical signal strength indication and from looking at the two signals on a spectrum analyzer, WLNE is stronger. WJAR has a considerable slope over the channel bandwidth, >8 dB although this is usually caused by multipath the WLNE signal was esentially flat. Do you have plans to increase power or know of any othe changes to expect in either signal? John

Is there any information about fox's providence affiliate broadcasting a digital signal any time soon ?

Originally posted by ctdish
Mark of WJAR,
I live in Mystic CT,which is just about 50 miles airline from the WJAR tower. I am receiving both WJAR and WLNE. I watched most of the West Wing last night, and had a few dropouts of a few seconds, probably from propagation variations. WLNE is slightly stronger than WJAR which is surprising since the FCC info on WJAR DT indicates 974 KW and only 240 to 350 KW for WLNE DT. Both on the numerical signal strength indication and from looking at the two signals on a spectrum analyzer, WLNE is stronger. WJAR has a considerable slope over the channel bandwidth, >8 dB although this is usually caused by multipath the WLNE signal was esentially flat. Do you have plans to increase power or know of any othe changes to expect in either signal? John

We are currently running with 562KW ERP we hope to within a year or so go up to full power. During our off-air period today we did extensive re-tuning of the transmitter, which I hope will flatten out the signal. Within the next few weeks we will be doing the final tuning of the antenna.

WJAR Engineer: I am receiving your signal perfectly on my RCA DTC-100 but all of a sudden this evening, I'm having a problem locking it in on my Mitsubishi integrated tuner. I have no such problem with WLNE. I didn't have this problem yesterday. Have you changed something in your PSIP between yesterday and today?

Just a comment on WLNE. Their analog signal had to be one of the worst in the country. The PQ on analog 6 was always poor, at best, and unwatchable on occassion. But the digital signal they are sending is very strong and the PQ is now equal to the best I have seen on any station. I can't wait for them to start sending through ABC's HD programming. With the flip of the digital switch WLNE has gone from the dark ages to the 21st century in style.

I sent an email to ABC6 inquiring about when they would be passing through HD, and Jim Brown, ABC6 engineering director, responded that HD would be up and running within a week hopefully, including Dolby Digital 5.1.

Originally posted by Benji
WJAR Engineer: I am receiving your signal perfectly on my RCA DTC-100 but all of a sudden this evening, I'm having a problem locking it in on my Mitsubishi integrated tuner. I have no such problem with WLNE. I didn't have this problem yesterday. Have you changed something in your PSIP between yesterday and today?

No changes made that I know of to PSIP. Sorry we were off so long today much work was needed on transmitter.

Mark

I have been trying all night to get anything from the channel 10 feed but i am getting nothing. I am getting almost a perfect signal but no feed. I get other channels with 1/3 the signal strength. Is there any feed tonight?

Originally posted by jforget1
I have been trying all night to get anything from the channel 10 feed but i am getting nothing. I am getting almost a perfect signal but no feed. I get other channels with 1/3 the signal strength. Is there any feed tonight?

I just checked with the studio picture is fine. What kind of receiver are you using?

I am using a Samsung SIR-T351, well I am pretty sure on the model. All my other channels come in great but 10 has not come in yet. But the antenna reads an 8 of 10 bars on the meter.

WJAR Engineer...I'm continuing to have the same problem. I can receive 51-1 on my DTC-100 but the signal seems to be fluctuating wildly, anything from 0 to about 60. My Mitsubishi digital tuner can not lock on to the signal. The first day you were on, I had no problem getting 51-1 on my Mits. WLNE comes in with a solid 80% on my RCA and I have no problem locking on to 49-1 on my Mits.

Where is WPRI-DT? Signal is MIA.

Both analog and digital signals from WPRI nearly non exsistant in CT, yesterday and today. I assume some problem at the station. John

Just got a rotator for my antenna and now I am getting a signal from WJAR but it has to beexactly at the right angle. There is no room for error, whereas most of the other channels have some room for latitude. Looking forward to ABC6 having an HD feed soon.

Agree with above post on WJAR. Seems to be sufferring from multipath problem. If I get below 70 on my DTC-100, it's tough to lock on to. Other stations lock on as low as 40. But if I aim my indoor antenna perfectly at WJAR, I get an 82 and perfect reception. Only I can't get any Boston stations that way.

I think that WPRI was having problems over the weekend. I get a constant signal strength of 94 and on Sunday I was getting no higher than the mid 50s. Last nite and today it is back up to 94.

I haven't noticed any problems with WJAR - also a steady 94 (as is WLNE)

Is anyone's WLNE mapping correctly to 6-1? Mine does not on my 3 receivers.

Originally posted by vfrjim
Is anyone's WLNE mapping correctly to 6-1? Mine does not on my 3 receivers.

Mine does not either on my DTC 100

Originally posted by jforget1
I am using a Samsung SIR-T351, well I am pretty sure on the model. All my other channels come in great but 10 has not come in yet. But the antenna reads an 8 of 10 bars on the meter.

Being one of the higher DTV channels multipath will be more of a problem also when the trees leaf out in the next few weeks.

WLNE not mapping to 6-1 on either my DTC-100 or Mits Promise Module.

"I am using a Samsung SIR-T351, well I am pretty sure on the model. All my other channels come in great but 10 has not come in yet. But the antenna reads an 8 of 10 bars on the meter."

I have a Samsung SIR-T165 and have problems with channel 10 as well. In my case I get right in the middle for signal strength (which is great) and the picture comes in fine. But then very frequently (few times a minute) the signal meter completely drops to nothing and the picture of course dies too. Then a couple of seconds later the signal strength comes right back up and everything is fine again till the next drop out.

Any thoughts? It has been doing this constantly since I bought the receiver a week or two ago. I'm in Attleboro and have no problem getting Boston channels.

Thanks,

Shawn

WLNE is not mapping correctly for me either, but this is really strange. With my DTC-100 which I do not try to map with, I get both 49-1 (with sound) and 49-2 (without sound). When I try to tune into WLNE on my Samsung 360, I get nothing on 6-1, I got a picture with no sound on 49-2, and on 52-1 I get WLNE with sound! How strange is that?

Luckily, I don't really care because I get Channel 5 (or 20-1) perfectly from Boston and just watch that.

SMK

WLNE-DT now mapping to 6-1 and 6-2 on my Mits Promise Module. Still 49-3 and 49-4 on my DTC-100.

I just cleared out my DTC-100's memory and did a new channel search, resulting in WLNE-DT now mapping correctly to 6-1 and 6-2. 6-2 is analog with no audio. I'm wondering if WLNE will pass thru HD and DD5.1 tonight? On my DTC-100, 6-1 is underscanning at the top of the screen, resulting in a black bar with hair-thin white lines in it.

I just rescanned on my Samsung 360. I now get 6-2 which is SD and without sound. I don't get 6-1, but as before am still getting it as 52-1. I don't know why. As I have indicated before, luckily I get 5 perfectly from Boston, so it doesn't really matter.

SMK

Is anyone else experiencing a mismatch between the audio and video on 10-1? Might have to get a better antenna to pick up 7-1...

Is anyone else experiencing the underscan issues on 6-1? With the line running accross the screen at the top. No HD either, but that will come in time.

Originally posted by vfrjim
Is anyone else experiencing the underscan issues on 6-1? With the line running accross the screen at the top. No HD either, but that will come in time. Yes...on my DTC100. The image is not vertically centered, resulting in bar at top and graphics being cut off at bottom. 6-2 is centered properly but SD.

I have exactly the same issue with my dtc100

I have the same issue with both the DTC-100 and the Samsung 360.

SMK

I note that WLNEDT (49-3) is now in HD with DD 5-1. However the audio is "off center", i.e., the talking is more pronounced in the left channel rather than the center one (if I have described it correctly).

Interesting to note that this evening's "LENO" program was in HD on WJAR while WHDH only displayed the SD presentation. Bcushman...are you still getting WLNE on 49-3 versus 6-1? You probably need to do another channel search to correctly map the channel.

Thanks for the suggestion Benji! Did the channel search this morning and WLNE is now mapping properly.

You're welcome! It took a while but WLNE finally flipped the HD switch on the Stanley Cup game. When they are telecasting in HD, the underscan at the top of the screen seems to be resolved. The image I am looking at on 6-1 is easily the best WLNE has ever looked in its 50 some year existance. Of course my memories only go back to the late 60's but WLNE has always had a pathetic analog signal.

We certainly agree on the memories regarding WLNE. I first saw the station come on the air (as WTEV) when I was living in Plymouth - it was a fuzzy, snowy picture which I attributed to the lousy antenna I was using. Unfortunately when I was reassigned to Warwick in 1972 with the USAF the picture wasn't much better. And until just recently they were the only station I can remember that asked to be notified if you were having a problem with the reception. Anyway they have made up for their poor picture quality with the digital signal.

I missed the change over to the HD signal on the hockey game - fortunately I get an excellent signal from WCVB. I wonder if they have corrected the DD 5.1 audio problem?

I only watched a little of the hockey game (I really haven't enjoyed hockey since the 'Big Bad Bruins') and WLNE was sending the DD5.1 to my receiver. The announcers were coming out of the center speaker but I couldn't detect any surround effects. WCVB was sending DD2.0. I don't think ABC was actually broadcasting 5.1 this time. WCVB is usually pretty good at sending 5.1 when it is appropiate.

As mentioned in a previous post, I am finding the audio on WLNE-DT off center when in HD - when it is in SD during commercials it is fine - as soon as it goes to 5.1 HD the speaking is more pronounced in the left channel. Audio 5.1 on WCVB-DT is fine. Anyone else notice this?

Originally posted by Benji
Interesting to note that this evening's "LENO" program was in HD on WJAR while WHDH only displayed the SD presentation. Bcushman...are you still getting WLNE on 49-3 versus 6-1? You probably need to do another channel search to correctly map the channel.

That is correct. LENO is not being uplinked on Satellite with HD, however WJAR gets it's NBC feed via Fiber not Satellite. (Where WHDH gets it via Satellite. )

not related to the above but I'm some of you are interested... I spoke to Cox today and the rep said she got notice that NESN will be available in HD on Cox.

Sadly, she could offer me no date... but said it was official.

Now they just need to get on the ball with the locals so we don't have to go through all this antenna crap.

Leno will not be in HD this week. WJAR receives HD via satellite along with most NBC affiliates our SD feed does come to us via fiber.

I cannot wait for NESN to go HD on Cox, I will switch as soon as they do. I hate when they advertise that the Sox games are in HD at the start of each game. Makes me jealous of comcast people.

not related to the above but I'm some of you are interested... I spoke to Cox today and the rep said she got notice that NESN will be available in HD on Cox.

Sadly, she could offer me no date... but said it was official.

Now they just need to get on the ball with the locals so we don't have to go through all this antenna crap.

NESN is one of the best HD channels(quality wise) out there, of course that is when they are at home :)

"Dear Cox High Definition Customer,

Cox Communications has Great News for you!

Beginning Wednesday, May 12, 2004 Boston Red Sox
"home" games will now be broadcast in High Definition
on INHD2, channel 713.

There will be over 60 games available this season in High Definition.

Here are the home Red Sox games for the remainder of May
that you will see in High Definition:

May 21 - May 23 Toronto
May 25 - May 27 Oakland
May 28 - May 30 Seattle
May 31st - Baltimore

Enjoy the games and thank you for being
a Cox Communications Customer!"



:D :D :D :D :D

BobR:

Where did you get that notice? Do they email you updates? I would love to get on that list.

Any word of locals in HD through Cox?

Dave

Yes, that was an e-mail from Cox. :D

No word on the local channels yet, other than NBC.

The Cox Website gives us nadda, but you can sign up for notifications by registering at Cox RI.

Originally posted by Bob R
"Dear Cox High Definition Customer,"


Better than ESPN Sunday Night Football by a country mile. NESN, bar none has the best HD sports team on the field. You see why baseball is America’s sport as historic Fenway Park send you back in time with one killer shot: Pitcher far right, man on first far left, and a 1000 amusing faces clearly staring intensely in between. Right out of a Norman Rockwell.

"............Right out of a Norman Rockwell"

Thanks, joe3.

I hope I did not misspeak, since I'm also a Cox internet customer, I can sign up for updates.

Maybe you can too, davieravie.


;)

Stanley Cup Playoffs in ABC-HD looking mighty good on WLNE right now!

Is anyone receiving guide data for any of the RI station (6,10,12)via D*? All I get is "Regular Schedule"

I also get guide data for 52.1, however the signal meter show Channel 49 and a good signal but no picture or sound.

WJAR does not run any program guide information.

Mark

Tom,

You should get 10 & 12 guide info, but not 6 (see above).
I have 10 & 12 currently on my Zenith.

Keith

I had to do an initial setup on my Sony HD200. I now have guide data for 12, "sign off" for 10, and "regular schedule" for 6.

52.1 is still an mystery with signal meter showing channel 49 and a good strength.

There is a digital channel close to RI in MA on channel 52 that is a shopping channel.

WPRI is installing a new antenna and will raise output power.
http://www.wpri.com/Global/story.asp?S=1908762 John

They are back, hopefully with a stronger signal. I have not been able to receive the digital station for the last week +. Things are looking up. John

Did a new scan on my receiver, and WLVI-DT popped up.

Also noticed increased power on WHDH-DT and WFXT-DT. Almost don't need my preamp here in North Kingstown.

Has anyone seen anything on COX HD Ch. re: HD commercials?

-------------
Cox Inserts Ads on HD in R.I.


-- Multichannel News, 6/7/2004 4:32:00 PM

Cox Communications Inc. has begun inserting local advertisements into HD programming in its Rhode Island market in what the MSO called an industry first.

The MSO is using SeaChange International Inc.’s “DigitalX” software utility for the vendor’s “SeaChange Spot System,” as well as its “DigitalXTM” automated ad-transcoder software, to insert 720p (progressive) and 1080i (interlaced) ads into 720/1080i HD streams.

“Cox Media HD ad insertion will be deployed in other Cox markets as HD content and subscribers continue to expand,” Cox Media vice president of technical operations Guy McCormick said in a prepared statement.

Hi All

Is there any word when channel's 36 and 64 will be making the switch.


Paul

I have been getting
channel 40.1 showing PAX programming coming from the direction of Martha's Vineyard.Anyone else getting this?I assume that it is channel's 58's digital equivalent.

Finally!

WLNE just showed up on my Cox cable guide.

Whoopee!!!


Perhaps I'll get the Patriots in HD this year - in the Super Bowl!!!

I noticed that too!!
And already they seem to have more shows in HD than NBC has.

If "My Wife and Kids" is on in HD (which it was)... then I have to think a lot of other shows would be (and the Pats!).

I noticed that too!!
And already they seem to have more shows in HD than NBC has.

If "My Wife and Kids" is on in HD (which it was)... then I have to think a lot of other shows would be (and the Pats!).

Anyone have contact info for ABC 6? I cannot stand their DD signal since it mixes up the fronts with the center channel, channel 5 from Boston does it correct.

Originally posted by vfrjim
Anyone have contact info for ABC 6? I cannot stand their DD signal since it mixes up the fronts with the center channel, channel 5 from Boston does it correct.

I have contacted Channel 6 twice via their web page (Jim Brown, Director of Engineering & Operations) with no response either time. Maybe a phone call would help? And I agree the audio on Channel 5 is excellent and fortunately I get a good signal from them.

I was stoked to see WLNE HD on Cox yesterday as I was flipping around, too. At the very least that means we'll get the Pats - Colts game that kicks of the season on Thursday Sept. 9 in HD.

Now all we need is for WPRI to hook us up before week 2 (though they may not necessarily broadcast all Pats games in HD week to week).:D

Today I called Cox to cancel a couple of premium chanels that were free for a month after my HD installation. At the time of the installation the DVI port on the HD cable box wasn't operational, but I asked about it today and the representative I spoke to said that in fact they had just received a company wide email stating the port was now active.

I don't have a DVI cable to test it right away, but I'm going to try and pick one up soon.

I just hooked up my cable box I got this week to my DVI cable and it is active, although the technician told me it was not active. The picture looked the same between both cables so I am leaving it on the component cables as they are longer and easier to work with. I highly recommend the HD package with Cox, the picture is incredible.

Has anyone heard when Cox may pick up CBS and Fox, figures those are the 2 main NFL channels. I hope thay have it before September.

Originally posted by kleopatrick
Today I called Cox to cancel a couple of premium chanels that were free for a month after my HD installation. At the time of the installation the DVI port on the HD cable box wasn't operational, but I asked about it today and the representative I spoke to said that in fact they had just received a company wide email stating the port was now active.

I don't have a DVI cable to test it right away, but I'm going to try and pick one up soon.

Originally posted by jforget1
I just hooked up my cable box I got this week to my DVI cable and it is active, although the technician told me it was not active. The picture looked the same between both cables so I am leaving it on the component cables as they are longer and easier to work with. I highly recommend the HD package with Cox, the picture is incredible.

Has anyone heard when Cox may pick up CBS and Fox, figures those are the 2 main NFL channels. I hope thay have it before September.

It seems that Cox is still in negotiations with WPRI/WNAC, Cox does not want to carry the data stream that is in thier broadcasts and as always there is the MONEY issue.

OTOH, I got a email from Bill Hague that WNAC-DT should be up and running in the next 30 days, if all goes well.

Jim

Here's an update I got today from the GM of Channel 64:

Mr. Cushman,
We are experiencing some delays in getting the proper equipment and installation from FOX for FOX HD. We will probably not hit the opening of the season, but our goal is to be ready for the end of September, especially with the possibility of the Red Sox in the post season. While we should be broadcasting FOX HD and are already broadcasting CBS HD over the air and available with a digital tuner and antennae, I am not optimistic that we will have an HD agreement worked out with Cox, if that is your HD provider.
Thanks again for your interest. Jay Howell, Pres and GM, WPRI/WNAC

The above just validates in my mind one more time that Cox sucks.

I got a phone call today from Cox RI. They are offering a Motorola DCT6400 HD Set top, dual tuners, 120 G HD, IEE 1394 / DVI. 75 hrs ST and 25 hrs HD capacity.

Tell me More.

We are offering free installation and the first month free.

How much?

$4.95 per month

Sign me up!

Sept 13th, HD DVR for Bob !

woo, woo !


btw 1: NESN HD is now available on INHD 2

btw 2: Received my Allman Brothers - "Live at Fillmore East" SACD today.

btw 3: Red Sox on HD at 7:00 and Pats on at 8:00 PM.

A good HT day, all around.

Is that 4.95 on top of the normal 9.95 to get the HD box?

Originally posted by Bob R
I got a phone call today from Cox RI. They are offering a Motorola DCT6400 HD Set top, dual tuners, 120 G HD, IEE 1394 / DVI. 75 hrs ST and 25 hrs HD capacity.

Tell me More.

We are offering free installation and the first month free.

How much?

$4.95 per month

Sign me up!

Sept 13th, HD DVR for Bob !

woo, woo !


btw 1: NESN HD is now available on INHD 2

btw 2: Received my Allman Brothers - "Live at Fillmore East" SACD today.

btw 3: Red Sox on HD at 7:00 and Pats on at 8:00 PM.

A good HT day, all around.

Yup jforget1, they have my HT soul, for the time being.

Worth it, IMHO. Buy one for $800 and six months later the DVR is obsolete.

I called yesterday (hadn't seen your post)... just to ask if they have a DVR yet.... she said yes...etc.

I signed up... they install Thursday, but I am paying the install!!

I will call today and get that switched... any promotion code or anything you are aware of to help my case?

also... when were/are the Pats on in HD... I missed that.

Pats/Carolina was in HD last week. And the season opener in Gillette against the Colts next Thursday will be HD.

Originally posted by bcushman
Here's an update I got today from the GM of Channel 64:

Mr. Cushman,
We are experiencing some delays in getting the proper equipment and installation from FOX for FOX HD. We will probably not hit the opening of the season, but our goal is to be ready for the end of September, especially with the possibility of the Red Sox in the post season. While we should be broadcasting FOX HD and are already broadcasting CBS HD over the air and available with a digital tuner and antennae, I am not optimistic that we will have an HD agreement worked out with Cox, if that is your HD provider.
Thanks again for your interest. Jay Howell, Pres and GM, WPRI/WNAC

Man I hope they get that splicer in by the end of september. the sox would be sweet..D** should have fox up by then hopefully.

Is anyone else noticing a breakup on the Channel 10-1 signal? Yesterday the signal was a steady 94 on my HR10-250, but allot of breakups. Today the signal is off the wall, jumping from the low 40s to the 80s. Both Channels 6 and 12 are steady at 94. No problem with any of the Boston channels.

I have not received any complaints I checked the transmitter log and that has been operating normally I will do further checking.

Mark

Originally posted by WJAR Engineer
I have not received any complaints I checked the transmitter log and that has been operating normally I will do further checking.

Mark

Thanks Mark. I recently installed a Channel Master 4228 but didn't have the problem with 10-1 until yesterday. Don't think that multi pathing could be a problem especially since I am having no problems with 6 and 12. But the problem is making it impossible to watch WJAR-DT.

I got the Cox DVR installed last night!

It is supposedly dual tuner, but that definitely isnt working right now. Does anyone know if that is intentional? Or if I need to do something?

First impressions... it is definitely not a Tivo... not even half as easy to use... but it is worth it for the $5/month extra it costs.. Dual tuner functionality will make it even better.

Anyone else get one yet?

Originally posted by bcushman
Thanks Mark. I recently installed a Channel Master 4228 but didn't have the problem with 10-1 until yesterday. Don't think that multi pathing could be a problem especially since I am having no problems with 6 and 12. But the problem is making it impossible to watch WJAR-DT.

Bruce,

I just checked and 10-1 is solid here. Signal is around 95 on my Dish 6000.

Howard

Thanks Howie! Guess I'll go out and see about tweaking the antenna a bit and see what happens! At least I don't have to go on the roof like you
do ;)


Edit: Just moved the antenna direction a fraction towards the Providence towers and it has corrected the problem! Didn't realize the 4228 waa that sensitive.

I just noticed the other day that Cox HD now has added PBS HD, nice for some of the programming they have in HD, but I really want CBS and FOX. I will be pissed if I miss most of the NFL season in HD.

All you Rhode Islanders do your self a favor and put up an antenna and drop Cox, I cancelled them over a year ago and never looked back. Just my .02 cents.

No excuse for not at least trying an indoor antenna. Both WPRI and WBZ have very strong digital signals and are easily received by most antennas. If you can get WBZ you're better off because they use the Dolby 5.1 audio.

Benji..I'm not far from you and I just ordered that zenith indoor antenna. Are you getting any boston HD staitions? Im 25 miles from beantown in N. Attleboro.

This is the Antenna:

http://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/product_Display.asp?cat=49&id=131


Pats

Patsfan...cancel the order if you can. I tried the same antenna a couple of years ago and got basically nothing. I use a Radio Shack amplified VHF-UHF indoor antenna and from my bedroom of my Raynham apartment (facing due south), I get strong signals on every single Boston digital. Walmart has an excellent selection of amplified indoor antennas. From this distance, it really needs amplification.

Too late, I allready got it on the way from ecost. Now are you the same distance as me or closer to boston? Also which of these two anteena would you recommend?


http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F003%5F001%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D1880

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F003%5F001%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D1838

Thanks.

Patsfan...the antenna I am currently using is from RS but not shown anymore on its website. However, the first antenna in your post is another one I now own and have used with great success. When I lived in Taunton, this antenna seemed stronger than the one I am using now. Since I moved to Raynham, the one I am currently using seems better. I have not tried any of the others shown. I believe we are both about the same distance from the Needham towers. Interesting to note, my antenna is aimed through a south-facing window and directed SE. The towers are NW of my location. I can't explain it but on my HDTivo, I get the following signal strengths:

19-1 (91)
20-1 (92)
30-1 (92)
31-1 (90)
39-1 (72)
41-1 (72)
42-1 (92)
43-1 (88)

I understand from this thread that Fox 64 is not transmitting an HD signal due to problems with equipment from Fox. Does that mean that they are at least on the air digitally? What channel is their digital broadcast? Usually, when a new digital channel is picked up by my receiver (I have a Samsung 360 and HD Tivo), it will automatically show up as a "favorite" and I haven't seen it.

SMK

Originally posted by RoyGBiv
I understand from this thread that Fox 64 is not transmitting an HD signal due to problems with equipment from Fox. Does that mean that they are at least on the air digitally? What channel is their digital broadcast? Usually, when a new digital channel is picked up by my receiver (I have a Samsung 360 and HD Tivo), it will automatically show up as a "favorite" and I haven't seen it.

SMK

Fox 64 is not broadcasting a digital signal. When it does come on the air the digital broadcasts will be on channel 54.

Originally posted by Benji
Patsfan...the antenna I am currently using is from RS but not shown anymore on its website. However, the first antenna in your post is another one I now own and have used with great success. When I lived in Taunton, this antenna seemed stronger than the one I am using now. Since I moved to Raynham, the one I am currently using seems better. I have not tried any of the others shown. I believe we are both about the same distance from the Needham towers. Interesting to note, my antenna is aimed through a south-facing window and directed SE. The towers are NW of my location. I can't explain it but on my HDTivo, I get the following signal strengths:

19-1 (91)
20-1 (92)
30-1 (92)
31-1 (90)
39-1 (72)
41-1 (72)
42-1 (92)
43-1 (88)

Ok. I got the first one from RS and it is pulling in alot of Boston staitions except fox and UPN. I got PBS,NBC,ABC, WB and CBS no problem. Great antenna. Thanks for the recommendation. I should get fox via D** sometime soon anyway and UPN digital in New bedford says its awaiting FCC approval on antenna web.

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx

Patsfan...depending on where your antenna is located, if you are picking up Boston stations, you may have to redirect it to pick up Providence. Try tuning in channels 6 (49-1), 10 (51-1) and 12 (13-1). If you can't get these you won't get UPN28 either.

Thats a given. I got a cheap little compass and have every stations heading printed out on a piece of paper next to where I keep the antenna. I get all of Providence no problemo.

No signal on DT Channels 6 and 10. Sig of 94 on 12, and fine on all Boston channels. Am I the only one? Good thing I receive an excellent signal on 5-1
for the Pats game :eek:

I also lost 6 and 10 DT and thought it was propagation. Guess not, I think they are on the same tower with analog 10 which is OK. John

Originally posted by ctdish
I also lost 6 and 10 DT and thought it was propagation. Guess not, I think they are on the same tower with analog 10 which is OK. John


Thanks John for the reply. A relief that I'm not alone and yes they are on the same tower (along with Channel 36 when they come on) which made me feel that it was a technical problem.


Edit: Have now lost the signal for 12 DT but all analog channels are on.

I have a few antenna questions. I live in RI down by the and I am wondering what I might need as far as an antenna to get OTA HDTV stations from providence. I am having a hard time trying to figure out what antennaweb.org is telling me and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. My zip is 02882. I am wondering because I know I can't get FOX through Cox cable and I believe I can't get either ABC or CBS (I can't remember which one).

What kind of antenna would I need?
Is it something I can pick up at Radioshack?
Is it something I can put in my attic even though there are no windows?

Thanks in advance.

Since fox is not on the air yet from providence, the only (OTA) way to get it is from WFXT-DT 25 out of Boston and depending on your location, you will probably need a very high-gain antenna (like the Channel Master 4248) with a preamplifier. I get it from my location but am on a very tall hill and I am not as far from Boston as you are. I talked to Bill Hague from WPRI/WNAC and he said that fox 64 should be live in the next month (hopefully).

Jim

WJAR Engineer,
Channel 10-1 had no sound comming from the center channel during LAX tonight. I had to switch to another channel to hear what the people were saying. John

From what I understand the LAX audio problem originated at the network.

Last weeks off-air period was because of a power failure at our Rehoboth transmitter we do not have generator backup for our DTV transmitter, which also includes WLNE.

Mark

Yahoo! Just got my cox DVR yesterday, I called to find out if they were available Tuesday, they said yes and FREE INSTALLATION, I said "Sign me up!" they said ok they'll come install it tomorrow! So they came yesterday and put it in, OH WHAT A DIFFERENCE HD MAKES! My Panny LCD Projection tv is finally showing it's potential!!! Now I just wish they added more content and fix the bugs in their DVR, it's still not as nice functionality wise as my ReplayTV but the ability to DVR HD plus the fact that SD looks a lot better on my panny than it did through the replay makes it worthwhile!
Tom

Originally posted by d2tw4all
Yahoo! Just got my cox DVR yesterday, I called to find out if they were available Tuesday, they said yes and FREE INSTALLATION, I said "Sign me up!" they said ok they'll come install it tomorrow! So they came yesterday and put it in, OH WHAT A DIFFERENCE HD MAKES! My Panny LCD Projection tv is finally showing it's potential!!! Now I just wish they added more content and fix the bugs in their DVR, it's still not as nice functionality wise as my ReplayTV but the ability to DVR HD plus the fact that SD looks a lot better on my panny than it did through the replay makes it worthwhile!
Tom

Tom, Have you been able to figure out how to get the second tuner working? If I am recording I cannot leave the channel. Also I am trying to figiure out if I can do a smooth PIP setup.

jforget1:

You’ll probably notice the upgrade when you get home today.

I posted this on the Motorola 6412 review (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4361735#post4361735) .

"The two tuners are activated, here in RI.

I'm good to go, about 4:30 AM this morning the screen was filled with a Pioneer logo, and then the box powered down.

I tried to record a show and then change the channel and voila, it changed.

Previous to this when I tried to change channels, I received a "tuner is busy, you must cancel this recording before changing channels."

I must say I'm a bit frightened by the fact that you were awake to notice the pioneer logo flashing at 4:30 this morning! I was home at lunch but didn't think to check for dual tuners, I'll check when I get home 2nite.
Tom

Originally posted by Bob R
jforget1:

You’ll probably notice the upgrade when you get home today.

I posted this on the Motorola 6412 review (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4361735#post4361735) .

"The two tuners are activated, here in RI.

I'm good to go, about 4:30 AM this morning the screen was filled with a Pioneer logo, and then the box powered down.

I tried to record a show and then change the channel and voila, it changed.

Previous to this when I tried to change channels, I received a "tuner is busy, you must cancel this recording before changing channels."

Excellent I will check it out when I get home, thanks for the info.

Hey guys how much guide data do you guys get, I only got 24hrs worth when they installed it yesterday, haven't checked today but I heard somewhere it was supposed to be 7 days, what's the deal?
Tom

Hello All:

Located in Southern RI. Currently get analog stations - channels 2,4,6,7,10,12,25,38 and some others also - 36,26,27,44,56,64,69 - with some of them at times dropping out or losing audio when viewing through high def capable lcd Toshiba. Actually - those that do lose audio can be tuned with sound when switched to viewing through vcr tuner.

Question is - with a Set Top Box digital (high def) tuner and using my amplified (older)channel master antenna - should I be able to receive high def signals from those stations which I currently get as regular tv? And - I have heard that stations which go digital - will either be received in great shape or will not be received at all? Is that true - in other words is snow/interference no longer a bugaboo.

The last part is true; it is pretty much all or nothing. You can have a picture intermittantly though. Generally if you can receive an analog station with just a little snow and no ghosts, the digital picture will come in OK. One caveat is that the digital and analog stations be in the same band. The Boston digital satations are all uhf so if stations like 38, 44 and 56 come in OK you will probably get the major network stations. A rotator and either a high gain UHF antenna or less helpful a combination VHF/UHF antenna will improve your chances greatly. John

Hey, is little Rhody getting second classed again? :confused:


I wouldn’t want to bust bubbles over the Motorola 6412, but is there any reason why Rhode Island is not getting the iGuide like our neighbors in Massachusetts who have the same box. It is more Tivo like and a lot friendlier. Example, they have a 15 min FF skip or something like the Tivo and you get a great time bar.

HERE , check it out, http://michigan.mybrighthouse.com/services/customer_care/resources/iGuide.pdf

Red Sox question: Other than from Cox, is there any other way to get Red Sox in HD in Warwick?

Question likely to make me less popular (Jets question): Can I see Jets games in HD by getting DirecTV (does DirecTV give NY HD broadcast feeds since they're not all available OTA, for example FOX)?

You would need to subscribe to NFL Sunday Ticket from DIRECTV. If the Jets game is in HD, Sunday Ticket will carry it in HD.

Anyone with an update on FOX-64? I struggle to get FOX-25 digital and am disappointed that my NFL-HD lineup is limited in the meantime.

Originally posted by jcurci
Anyone with an update on FOX-64? I struggle to get FOX-25 digital and am disappointed that my NFL-HD lineup is limited in the meantime.

WJAR Engineer,

Any update here? Any idea as to a new projected on air date, and can you tell us the Kw power for the digital signal?

Many thanks...

mbtobe...in Bellingham, your best bet appears to still be 25-1. Have you had any luck with WFXT?

Originally posted by Benji
mbtobe...in Bellingham, your best bet appears to still be 25-1. Have you had any luck with WFXT?

Yes, now that WFXT is at full power, I get a strong signal, most of the time.

I have noticed, that sometimes CBS Boston and Providence carry different NFL games, so presuming that Fox is the same, just trying to open up a new option.

I live very close to Providence, and can not get WLNE-DT or WJAR-DT. I do get WPRI (digital VHF 13-1) but probably will not be able to get WNAC-DT when it goes OTA. You are correct, sometimes 64 carries a different game than 25, especially when the Pats are home, and Boston loses the doubleheader game.

I do not know what WNAC-DT's timetable for going on the air is you will have to contact them for that information.

Fox ch 25 out of Boston recently went back to its previously woeful power levels that are still WAY BELOW what it will eventually be once it gets permission to do so. They have a problem getting permission to up their power totally unrelated to their ability to do so. Problems related to reception are to be expected until these hurdles are overcome. They recently were working on installing upgrades, and during that time their signal levels were even lower-now they are back to the previous levels that they will admit are grossly inadequate unless you are awfully close to their transmitter. NFL reception will be available to only the privileged few close enough to pick up their miniscule power ouputted signal. What a shame:(

I get a 90% signal on 25-1 from 30 miles away using an indoor antenna on the opposite end of my apartment building from Needham. Doesn't sound like a woefully inadequate signal to me.

Originally posted by Benji
I get a 90% signal on 25-1 from 30 miles away using an indoor antenna on the opposite end of my apartment building from Needham. Doesn't sound like a woefully inadequate signal to me.

I agree. Since WFXT increased their power a couple of weeks ago, it is one of the most solid and consistant signals I get.

I would hardly call it woefully inadequate.

Try living beyond the metropolitan Boston area and try to get the signal. I live north of Worcester in central MA and can't get 25 with a fringe amplified roof mounted antenna with rotor. I receive 4,5,7,38,56,12,44 and 2-but no FOX. There are a lot of us out here in the same boat.:mad:

FWIW. WFXTDT is running a their Full Power. They applied for an increase but that doesn't have anything to do with what their Full Power strength is now.

I'm on the MA/RI border and since WFXTDT went full power a few weeks ago, I get them pretty solid now. I'm just using an amplified indoor SilverSensor mounted outside. No, fringe antenna needed here.

Receiving about a 60% signal for FOX in Warwick, RI---approx 50 miles from Needham---no problems using an amplified indoor antenna.

Keith

Originally posted by bcushman

..... We are experiencing some delays in getting the proper equipment and installation from FOX for FOX HD. We will probably not hit the opening of the season, but our goal is to be ready for the end of September, especially with the possibility of the Red Sox in the post season. While we should be broadcasting FOX HD .........


Well, there are only 2 days left in September. Any more information?



SMK

Originally posted by RoyGBiv
Well, there are only 2 days left in September. Any more information?
SMK

Just sent another email to the station and will see if I get an answer back

Has anyone heard any update as to when Cox will be getting CBS and/or Fox as part of their HD package?

Football is not the same.

Has anyone posted the complete list of HD available from Providence with channel numbers and maybe where it's broadcasting from? Thanks.

WLNE-DT 6 (49-1)
WJAR-DT 10 (51-1)
WPRI-DT 12 (13-1)

I could be wrong but I think all 3 are coming from Rehoboth, Mass.

Originally posted by Benji
WLNE-DT 6 (49-1)
WJAR-DT 10 (51-1)
WPRI-DT 12 (13-1)

I could be wrong but I think all 3 are coming from Rehoboth, Mass.

Benji - your correct - 6, 10 and 36 (when it comes on) share a tower, 12 and 64 (when it comes on) are on a seperate tower.

According to TitanTV this Sunday's Giants/Cowboys game is on WNAC but not on WFXT from Boston. It would be really nice if WNAC would get its act together and get the digital channel on the air!

SMK

WPRI\WNAC has made it clear since denying their Super bowl digital feed to about 90% of the population that is cabled--

They are not in the nice business.

:mad:

WNAC seems to think that they are broadcasting in HD...All of their commercials say WNAC-DT. There was also a delay by the FCC because of something with the wpri-dt on same tower.

God do I hate WPRI-WNAC

WJAR ALL THE WAY!!!!

How can I take two UHF antennaes and merge them into one signal to go into my HD card? I like in NK, RI and I want to put an indoor antennae in my attic to combine with an indoor by the computer (MyHD card MDP-120)

WNAC-DT is up!...kind of. As of 9:00 pm I'm getting a spotty signal from them, but it's a signal. First one I have seen from them. It's a start.
Oh, BTW I'm a long time reader first time poster. You guys are always lots of help. Hope I can do the same.

Originally posted by PhilH007
WNAC-DT is up!...kind of. As of 9:00 pm I'm getting a spotty signal from them, but it's a signal. First one I have seen from them. It's a start.
Oh, BTW I'm a long time reader first time poster. You guys are always lots of help. Hope I can do the same.

Hmmm, I'm getting nothing. Assume it is ch 54?

I just checked and I am receiving 64-01 and 64-02 in Warwick, RI. They have the news channel on 64-02.

Howard

Just tried again and I was able to lock ch 54 (ch 64.1 & 64.2). The signal is fluctuating quite a bit though. Hopefully it will get a better

WPRI/WNAC is making you sound like the cast of ABC's "Lost", looking for the faint signal. But the only island that is lost is the one WPRI/WNAC controls.

By the way, "Lost", great HD!

Oh, what's WPRI/WNAC carrying at that time?

Its a blur

Good strong signal here but then again I'm only a few miles from the transmitter. Not sure how sharp the picture is though - it looks too much like the washed out PQ of Channel 12. But...will see what a HD program looks like. 64-2 is a repeat of the Channel 12 WX channel.

WNAC DT is comming in Mystic, CT but is weaker than channel 49 or 51 and seems to drop out from tme to time. John

My indoor antenna is adjusted for all the Boston channels but I am getting about a 60% signal on 64-1 on my DTC-100. Currently it is rock solid (no dropouts).

Great news, and I will check what I am getting when I get home. I am extremely happy that I'll get to see the Giants/ Cowboys in HD this weekend!

SMK

I am getting the same signal strength for WNAC-DT as WFXT-DT, ~69%

On the Cape we are getting a rock solid signal - around 83% on my sony hd100 - HOORAY !! no more fox dropouts from WFXT

I was impressed with the PQ and audio during last night's MLB, especially after seeing the washed out picture and one sided audio earlier. the station was on earlier today but is off air now so would imagine that there will be allot of adjustments to be made at first. Anyway, it will be good to have a good solid signal from Fox.

I am getting about 65 on my HD DirecTiVo. The problem is that at least to this point nothing is showing up in the program guide, so I won't be able to record the football game. (Maybe I can record by setting up for a manual record).

Anyway, it is good to have this station running. I agree that last night's picture looked good.

SMK

Originally posted by RoyGBiv
I am getting about 65 on my HD DirecTiVo. The problem is that at least to this point nothing is showing up in the program guide, so I won't be able to record the football game. (Maybe I can record by setting up for a manual record).

Anyway, it is good to have this station running. I agree that last night's picture looked good.

SMK

SMK - since it shows up in the channel list you should be able to do a manual recording on the HD TIVO. I too am wondering when the program details will show up in the guide. Since Channel 12 is there I would think 64 would be included. Channel 6 still has no program details though.

Well, it was nice that the Giants/Cowboys game was on. Too bad they didn't "throw the switch" to HD until the last few minutes. We'll hope they do better next time. Since WPRI's broadcast of the Pats was also SD until the end, it seems they were both in the same situation at the station.

SMK

Originally posted by jforget1
Has anyone heard any update as to when Cox will be getting CBS and/or Fox as part of their HD package?

Football is not the same.

I have been wondering the same thing myself. Would anyone else have any more info? I dropped Cox an email a while back but got just a generic response. I would love to see the Sox and Yanks in HD.

I have an antenna good enough to get WJAR-DT, WLNE-DT, and WPRI-DT -- should that be enough to get WNAC-DT? I get no signal on 54.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. I ran out an bought a receiver and antenna yesterday. Now, the Yanks-Sox game is starting and I'm getting nothing. What am I doing wrong? Is WNAC-DT really broadcasting right now?

Where are you? Probably depends on where you are located, antenna, etc. It is noticably weaker here than WJAR and WLNE. John

Warwick, here.

You got a nice antenna?

You are a lot closer than me. It shouldn't be too hard for you to receive it. An outside antenna of almost any type (that has UHF) shoud work. John

Anyone have any details on the power level and antenna installation of WNAC DT yet? The only listing on the FCC web site for them is a 1999 construction permitt which indicates 1 Meg into a fairly directional antenna at 323 meters above sea level. Thanks John

I dropped Cox an e-mail asking about their status on carrying both Fox and CBS HD feeds and here is their reply:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding High-Definition on the local Fox &
CBS affiliates. Cox is committed to providing the best customer service
possible.

Cox is actively negotiating with all of the local broadcasters to
provide their HD feeds. Unfortunately, we are unable to offer
High-Definition service on Fox and CBS - Channel 12 at this time. We
are not able to sign agreements until stations are at full power for
their HD signal, due to the quality of the channel at low power. We
apologize if you were under the impression that these channels would be
added soon, since we have never been issued even an approximate launch
date for either station. We have been carrying the local CBS affiliate
in Connecticut, as you are aware, but only because of their preparedness
to broadcast in HD.

We regret any disappointment you may be feeling during this process, and
hope to be able to broadcast these channels in HD in the near future.
We have, however, forwarded your request to our New England Programming
Manager for consideration.

We always enjoy hearing from our customers, and appreciate your input in
this regard. We hope that we have been able to provide you with the
information you requested. If we have not, or if we can be of any
additional service to you, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Thank you.
Cox Communications Online Customer Care Team

Anyone have any update on when Channel 36 DT (PBS) will be operational?