Yesterday morning at 6:45 I was receiving every Fort Wayne DTV except WFFT-DT 36. There was not a hint of DT 36. Even WISE-DT 19 was strong enough to occasionally make it through local WDNI-LP 19 (150 kW), with the tower 10 miles south of my location.

Nexstar now has a new problem. The tower for KSNF, Joplin, MO went down during a storm this week.
http://fourstateshomepage.com/content/fulltext/?cid=65151

Steve
thursday night at 9:15 PM I caught WICD-DT channel 41 from Champaign Illinois, a bit of tropo along the front.All Indianapolis UHF high powered digitals were full scale!!!

I left one of my DTV receivers turned on and tuned to ch. 36 overnight with the antenna aimed toward Ft. Wayne and this morning I found the PSIP info for WFFT-HD. Apparently the station tested its new full-power setup sometime overnight as I'm getting nothing from this station now, but WFWA-DT 40 is in nicely. This is the first time I've ever seen anything from WFFT-DT @ 94 miles, as I NEVER saw even a hint of it from the 970 watt signal.

Steve

I just checked our TV in the break room here and we're getting a nice strong signal from WFFT today. I think we're about 10 miles from the tower.

Maxed at 100 via Dish receiver in Huntington.

Yep, WFFT certainly bumped up the power. I'm only about 2 miles away however I jumped from around 65-70% to pegged at 100%.

Coming in at about 80%. Sounds like I'm going to have to change my screenname when the full-power thing is spoken for.

WFFT-DT Full scale 2 miles NW of Churubusco off the back of the parabolic!!!!!!

I got a nice solid lock this evening on my Myth box on WFFT-DT, I never saw even a peep before. Located off Carroll road, just north of the high school.. Unfortunately, there is nothing I want to see on Fox anymore now that the Terminator series is over!

Just reported on the news that WFFT is at "100% power." (No wattage was mentioned.) To any South Bend/Elkhart people reading, any reports of reception?

100% here in Auburn. However, the analog that is pumped over the HD feed still looks like crap. Luckily, the only thing I would watch on WFFT is nationally generated content, and that looks excellent on FOX (F1 and NFL).

Both analog and digital are off-the-air right now. Surprising, I know. :rolleyes:

82 without me playing with my antenna this morning down in Ossian...

Well, I'm getting 55, DT36 in at 90% strength, and Idol was pretty sweet in HD last night;)

I'm now receiving all FW channels at between 75-90% strength...except for WISE, which I can't receive right now at all. No idea why, but from Monday until now I can't receive a signal...I live in Bluffton, anyone else having issues with them? Its strange that every other channel is coming in fine...

Well, I'm getting 55, DT36 in at 90% strength, and Idol was pretty sweet in HD last night;)

I'm now receiving all FW channels at between 75-90% strength...except for WISE, which I can't receive right now at all. No idea why, but from Monday until now I can't receive a signal...I live in Bluffton, anyone else having issues with them? Its strange that every other channel is coming in fine...
WISE it at 50% power due to a transmitter issue. We are still waiting approval to move to channel 18 and then we will be transmitting the WISE signal from the WPTA building at full power. We also have petitioned the FCC for approval to raise the power level.

BTW, I was receiving WFFT at around 95% in Auburn.

I am considering changing from Comcast to DirectTV because of the lower cost, but first I want to make sure I can get network programming in HD with DirectTV like I do on Comcast.

DirectTV's website is confusing regarding the issue. The link to local programming in their HD section goes to the same page as the general local station availability link. It says local stations are available in Fort Wayne but doesn't say whether they are shown in HD.

Does someone know?

I have DIRECTV and locals are in HD.

I have DIRECTV and locals are in HD.

yep directv has had fort wayne locals since about nov. 08

BTW, I was receiving WFFT at around 95% in Auburn.

100% for WFFT here in Huntington last night. Actually, everything is at 100% (except for WPTA - 78% for them)

100% for WFFT here in Huntington last night. Actually, everything is at 100% (except for WPTA - 78% for them)

I'm picking up all the Fort Wayne stations at 100% in Corunna, about 24 miles north of FW using a DB2 mounted on the roof.

Just reported on the news that WFFT is at "100% power." (No wattage was mentioned.) To any South Bend/Elkhart people reading, any reports of reception?

I'm in Middlebury, getting a 88 on my TivoHD, about the same strength as the South Bend stations. I have my antenna pointed south, and get all South Bend and Fort Wayne channels great, except 33 breaks up now and then.

Yes , WINM is going to be on Dt-38 in Ft.Wayne. It is a repeater of DT-12. Sorry for not including the call letters. And Wfft is still going on with the full power construction plans.

Has WINM again been experiencing problems? Hasn't worked in a few days.

INC is promising widescreen news on Monday, nothing about HD. I don't know how they're going to do that, their newsroom hardly works in 4:3.

ETA: That's "digital widescreen" for those keeping score.

The widescreen on INC was nice, better than 4:3. However, the picture still looked quite soft, not near as sharp as the news on 15. jckrac, does wane have any plans to switch to a widescreen format?

The widescreen on INC was nice, better than 4:3. However, the picture still looked quite soft, not near as sharp as the news on 15. jckrac, does wane have any plans to switch to a widescreen format?

Not at this time (unless you guys want stretch o'vision!)

Not at this time (unless you guys want stretch o'vision!)
I'm certain we can handle any stretching we need on our end :D

Well, those of us dinosaurs still pumping out in analog are running soft tests through the day today. Already have one in the books and have received a whopping ZERO phone calls.

Only interesting development was someone called news; an older lady who was sick of seeing these tests. Producer who took the call wondered aloud if she is sick of seeing tests, imgaine what'll happen in June.

I still worry more about what happens when we jump to a megawatt... I foresee a lot of overloaded receivers nearby.

Was out of town for a week. Upon my return, I see that WFFT-DT is now reaching the ranch here in Angola. WISE on the other hand, not so much. Levels are low and reception is hit and miss. Friend in Auburn says its a lot worse down there too. I remember hearing about an issue with them but I can't remember what it was. Anyone know off hand?

Looks like it's back to WNDU on Saturday night for SNL in HD. Hope WISE gets their issue resolved soon.

BTW, the SD programs on WFFT-DT still look really really bad (very soft pic, no sharpness whatsoever).

Producer who took the call wondered aloud if she is sick of seeing tests, imgaine what'll happen in June.
Are these analog only tests? The ones WNDU over in South Bend were running affected both signals ... they did "DTV Tuesdays" as part of the evening newscast and it was annoying after a while.

In my opinion tests should be silent on the digital feeds ... and annoy less people.

Are these analog only tests? The ones WNDU over in South Bend were running affected both signals ... they did "DTV Tuesdays" as part of the evening newscast and it was annoying after a while.

In my opinion tests should be silent on the digital feeds ... and annoy less people.

Analog only. No reason to disrupt those already prepared in my opinion.

Latest number I saw was 15 percent of the FW market not ready. We got a whopping 2 phone calls all day about it, so that number IMO is quite high.

We got a whopping 2 phone calls all day about it, so that number IMO is quite high.

You have got to be kidding me? After all the media saturation and the delay and there are still people not prepared?

Oh my gosh, there really are people that believe procrastination is a religion. LOL

diehard

PS, I think it is really funny that the WFFT was so far behind getting their DTV signal online and now their signal is like %100, go figure.

You have got to be kidding me? After all the media saturation and the delay and there are still people not prepared?

Oh my gosh, there really are people that believe procrastination is a religion. LOL

diehard

PS, I think it is really funny that the WFFT was so far behind getting their DTV signal online and now their signal is like %100, go figure.

Surely you jest! :)

I liken it to a hurricane: you can warn and warn and warn to get out of dodge. Yet there are those who put it off then want to blame others when the storm hits.

In both cases when we got calls, it was from people that wanted to know when that annoying test would be done. Even after trying to warn them again that June 12th is less than 3 weeks away and they will go dark they didn't want to prepare.

I've reached a point where I'm done feeling sorry for them to be honest.

We are waiting for the FCC to approve moving to RF channel 18. There is a lot of interferance on 19 from surounding markets. As soon as we get the approval, we will be using a different transmitter here at the WPTA building on channel 18 at full power. We also have petitioned the FCC to increase the WISE power. We are hoping for the approval any day now.

I just read that you now have the green light to move from ch. 19 to ch. 18. And "to make this channel change effective immediately
upon publication in the Federal Register....."

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-09-1160A1.pdf

Steve

Yes, this has been approved. We are still waiting for a few pieces to arrive, once they get here, we will be getting the crew scheduled ASAP.

Yes, this has been approved. We are still waiting for a few pieces to arrive, once they get here, we will be getting the crew scheduled ASAP.

I don't mean to be a wiseguy, but is this anything like WFFT's "waiting for a crew"? WISE-DT has been unwatchable here in Angola lately.

Any ballpark guess on when this fix might be a done deal? I won't hold you to it, but it would be nice to have a rough idea.

Thanks, ENGjas

I am not trying to anger the hardworking engineers at all the F.W. stations. But , tower heights of 700 to 750 feet are shorties. No matter if the erp levels are 1000 kw. If you're dumping line of site signals 35 to 38 miles, thats it ! You just penetrated the market at that mast height. Washington, D.C. has self supporting towers between 700 and 750 feet and the eastern viewing area 35 miles away can receive Baltimore D.T. signals with no problems. Baltimore has tower heights of 1000 ft. or taller. Sorry guys but you missed the boat when the visit from the Chairman of the F.C.C. said that extended height levels would be relaxed for this area. I know, because I asked him the question at the forum held at the public library in F.W. One tall tower with a candelabra at the top with all D.T. signals could have been built . You knew this was coming for years .

One tall tower with a candelabra at the top with all D.T. signals could have been built.

That would have been a good way to go, unless there's some technical reason not to do that.

Some scratchiness in the sound this morning on digital 15.

Some scratchiness in the sound this morning on digital 15.

Thanks for the heads up John. For some reason the chain needed re-clocked. Its all good now.

Is the Milwaukee Indycar race supposed to be in HD (abc)?

Nevermind, it's HD now...

I've had to call into WPTA to get them to switch IndyCar to HD in the past. Apparently, the automatic switch has Sunday's off. Hopefully, F1 on Fox won't need to have a switch thrown.

The audio on WPTA is messed up tonight. All you can hear is the background audio. Commercials seem okay.

INC now has their ticker going saying ABC has audio problems.

INC now has their ticker going saying ABC has audio problems.
ABC switched over to a new system this afternoon that is causing audio trouble at many ABC stations. They are working on the problem.

I lost my TVGOS listings on my DTVPal DVR last week here in Fort Wayne. I'm wondering if this is an issue at the broadcasting station, or is my own unit. Is anyone else having a problem with TVGOS in the Fort Wayne market?

I lost my TVGOS listings on my DTVPal DVR last week here in Fort Wayne.

I lost it in Ossian, and so did my dad down in Bluffton. We both have the DTVPal DVR.

:mad:

I'm pretty sure PBS is broadcasting the signal in our area instead of CBS who usually does it.

I lost it in Ossian, and so did my dad down in Bluffton. We both have the DTVPal DVR.

:mad:

I'm pretty sure PBS is broadcasting the signal in our area instead of CBS who usually does it.

Thanks. Good to know it's not my equipment.
You are right about PBS broadcasting TVGOS for us. At least according to
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos
I also have trouble with my DTVPal DVR regularly adding stations (that clutter the guide) that I can't really receive. But this topic belongs in the DTVPal forum...

This is interesting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/06/technology/06digital.html?_r=1

Quote from the article:

In the New York broadcasting market, 92,000 homes are completely unready for the transition and another 348,000 are partly unready, according to Nielsen. That represents almost 6 percent of households in the region.

I like what Gary Locke said, it hit the nail on the head:

“There are so many people who are always waiting until the last minute, whether it is college students doing term papers, or people filing taxes, or people like me who wait until Christmas Eve to do their shopping,” said the commerce secretary, Gary F. Locke, in an interview on Friday.

diehard

Hopefully, since 21, 33, and 39 have been all digital for a while, that there shouldn't really be anyone around here not ready.

Thanks. Good to know it's not my equipment.
You are right about PBS broadcasting TVGOS for us. At least according to
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos
I also have trouble with my DTVPal DVR regularly adding stations (that clutter the guide) that I can't really receive. But this topic belongs in the DTVPal forum...

To all TVGOS users:

As of Noon today Monday 6/8 the TVGOS service should be restored. A connectivity failure took it off-line, and the offending device has been repaired.

MK @ PBS39

Any update on WISE-DT and the power issues?

Any update on WISE-DT and the power issues?
Still awaiting delivery dates for one last part..It may still be 60 days yet.

To all TVGOS users:

As of Noon today Monday 6/8 the TVGOS service should be restored. A connectivity failure took it off-line, and the offending device has been repaired.

MK @ PBS39

Good! My TV updates the TVGOS listings overnight, so I'll let you know if I get them. Thanks!

Per last night's Charlie Chat, Fort Wayne digital locals up on Dish Network July 1, 2009.

To all TVGOS users:

As of Noon today Monday 6/8 the TVGOS service should be restored.

MK @ PBS39

My guide is back up! Thanks for keeping us updated.

Per last night's Charlie Chat, Fort Wayne digital locals up on Dish Network July 1, 2009.

Well I knew that would happen. As soon as I wait out all of the things that have made OTA reception so hit and miss, Charlie swoops in and starts offering the HD feeds anyway. LOL. I'll take whatever I can get. In fact, with Fort Wayne HDs from DISH, I may re-focus my OTA efforts back toward South Bend.

Per last night's Charlie Chat, Fort Wayne digital locals up on Dish Network July 1, 2009.Either July 8th or 22nd ... and the date isn't guaranteed. But HD locals (not just digital) are coming.

Hopefully, since 21, 33, and 39 have been all digital for a while, that there shouldn't really be anyone around here not ready.

We've been having that very debate here for a while. Sadly, my phone has been ringing off the hook this week with people just now working on this. Don't ask me what rock they live under or if they never watch 21, 33, and 39 but its blown up pretty good here.

We've been having that very debate here for a while. Sadly, my phone has been ringing off the hook this week with people just now working on this. Don't ask me what rock they live under or if they never watch 21, 33, and 39 but its blown up pretty good here.

Wow, you guys should be able to get quite a bit more advertising dollars now, since there are people who only watch you and WFFT.

Wow, you guys should be able to get quite a bit more advertising dollars now, since there are people who only watch you and WFFT.

I think the situation is a very vocal minority. There are probably packets of folks that stay locked on 21 all the time (my parents being a few of them). Usually, its an older demographic that is very anti-change.

Well, I don't even get WISE-DT anymore. I can get the SD version on DISH, but I really don't watch anything unless it's in HD (thank goodness for WSBT news in HD). I get WANE and WPTA with 95-100 quality on my VIP722 and WFFT comes in around 80 (although I was hoping for more there.

Hopefully this gets cleared up soon. For now, I'll watch SNL and Conan from South Bend and fiddle with the rotor until DISH or WISE come through.

.......... WFFT comes in around 80 (although I was hoping for more there.

Just a reminder, that because of WFFT-DT's directional antenna pattern, you are receiving approximately 326 kW ERP towards Angola (using 0 degrees) and not the full 1000 kW ERP. The field values are listed here
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=25040 And by plugging in a field value of .571 and plugging in a maximum ERP of 1000 kW, this first calculator http://www.rabbitears.info/calc.php indicates the ERP in that given direction (0 degrees) is 326.04 kW. I'm sure this is why your signal level is a little bit lower for WFFT-DT.

WANE-DT is also using a fairly directional antenna, but this station is sending a very good signal straight north (0 degrees). Also, I believe WANE-DT will be cranking up to its full 1000 kW ERP tomorrow or Saturday.

Steve

Just a reminder, that because of WFFT-DT's directional antenna pattern, you are receiving approximately 326 kW ERP towards Angola (using 0 degrees) and not the full 1000 kW ERP. The field values are listed here
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=25040 And by plugging in a field value of .571 and plugging in a maximum ERP of 1000 kW, this first calculator http://www.rabbitears.info/calc.php indicates the ERP in that given direction (0 degrees) is 326.04 kW. I'm sure this is why your signal level is a little bit lower for WFFT-DT.

WANE-DT is also using a fairly directional antenna, but this station is sending a very good signal straight north (0 degrees). Also, I believe WANE-DT will be cranking up to its full 1000 kW ERP tomorrow or Saturday.

Steve

I think it is actually less than that. It looks like you pulled the numbers for the STA and not the final transmitter. For the 1MW transmitter, starting figure would be 0.470, which would translate to 220.90kW at 0 degrees.

I think it is actually less than that. It looks like you pulled the numbers for the STA and not the final transmitter. For the 1MW transmitter, starting figure would be 0.470, which would translate to 220.90kW at 0 degrees.

Oops! My bad!! You are correct. I did grab the STA figure. Sorry, but thanks for catching it. This makes even more sense with the signal strengths he reported from Angola. At the current ERP levels, this would put WFFT-DT's ERP approximately 100 kW less (slightly plus or minus) than those of WPTA-DT and WANE-DT.

Steve

Just a reminder, that because of WFFT-DT's directional antenna pattern, you are receiving approximately 326 kW ERP towards Angola (using 0 degrees) and not the full 1000 kW ERP. The field values are listed here
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=25040 And by plugging in a field value of .571 and plugging in a maximum ERP of 1000 kW, this first calculator http://www.rabbitears.info/calc.php indicates the ERP in that given direction (0 degrees) is 326.04 kW. I'm sure this is why your signal level is a little bit lower for WFFT-DT.

WANE-DT is also using a fairly directional antenna, but this station is sending a very good signal straight north (0 degrees). Also, I believe WANE-DT will be cranking up to its full 1000 kW ERP tomorrow or Saturday.

Steve

WANE is scheduled to go full power right around 9 AM tomorrow morning if all goes as planned.

Thanks for the info about Angola. WFFT comes in okay, but there seens to be something interfering every once in a while. I don't know what it is, but the pic looks great at a signal level of 77 and then it goes to zero and no pic (loss of signal message) for about 5 to 10 seconds. This happens about every 20 to 30 minutes or so. I don't have the equipment to locate the source or direction of the problem, so I live with it.

I guess when I get HD locals from DISH I won't have to worry about that anymore. I've waited this long, so I guess one more month won't end my world. Still though, I'd like to be able to rely on my antenna for local TV in the event of any kind of sat failure.

Good news about WANE-DT. Thanks for the heads up, jdkrac.

Oops! My bad!! You are correct. I did grab the STA figure. Sorry, but thanks for catching it. This makes even more sense with the signal strengths he reported from Angola. At the current ERP levels, this would put WFFT-DT's ERP approximately 100 kW less (slightly plus or minus) than those of WPTA-DT and WANE-DT.

Steve

I ended up getting a bit more curious:
http://www.2150.com/broadcast/default.asp?latitude=41%2E634855&longitude=%2D84%2E999194&magnetic_north=%2D13%2E25&range=150&sort=distance&show_expired=True&show_construction=True&show_analog=False&show_low_power=True&action=Show+Stations
(Link may take a second to load.)

According to this calculation (which I set the location to the mound in Angola), Angola is almost at the lowest point on WFFTs transmitter at ~30 degrees, so a scaling factor of 0.36 which translates to 129kW ERP.

Sorry Skylooker, I just keep giving worse news. You can get your exact coordinates from Google Earth and plug them into the site I linked to get your exact direction (don't forget to subtract 180 degrees from what it reports. To use GE, you need to swap coordinate display to decimal degrees.

What time will WANE's analog transmitter get shut down? Lame as it may be, I want to witness the official transition.

What time will WANE's analog transmitter get shut down? Lame as it may be, I want to witness the official transition.

I believe they said 9am on the news last night.

What time will WANE's analog transmitter get shut down? Lame as it may be, I want to witness the official transition.

The plan stands as this:
9 AM: Analog shuts down
9:00:30 AM: digital goes full power.
9:01AM: Head to my office to talk to procrastinators!

The plan stands as this:
9 AM: Analog shuts down
9:00:30 AM: digital goes full power.
9:01AM: Head to my office to talk to procrastinators!

LMAO Now that made my day

diehard

by the way, I got the ol' VCR out and recording you guys and I see you get to flip the ol' switch, too.

LMAO Now that made my day

diehard

by the way, I got the ol' VCR out and recording you guys and I see you get to flip the ol' switch, too.

Not as much as its made MY day! Real big headache done! In all honesty, I've spent a lot of time on that transmitter and shutting it down was something I took a great deal of pride on. I won't lie when I say I'm glad to see it gone!

So far so good here, only 1 call.

Not as much as its made MY day! Real big headache done! In all honesty, I've spent a lot of time on that transmitter and shutting it down was something I took a great deal of pride on. I won't lie when I say I'm glad to see it gone!

So far so good here, only 1 call.

I was kind of expecting to have the newsman their showing the shutdown since he was talking and showing about it earlier, but it was pretty uneventful. Bonnie Hunt started and then snow. Gameover.

diehard

So what's going to happen to all the old analog transmitters?

So what's going to happen to all the old analog transmitters?Yard sale. Or eBay. :D

The ones that are still in decent condition can be converted to digital and used as backup transmitters. This would be a good time for a station to pick up a good used transmitter, if theirs doesn't convert.

Plus once the dust clears we should see filings for new digital stations. These startups will need transmitters.

That's it. WFFT-TV, off the air at 6:01 PM.

Whats up with channel 33? I was reading they were to move to channel 18 immediately and the channel 18 move means the location is different as well.It will be from the channel 21 antenna it is a multi-input design.So, what is to become of the antique 33 tower on state st?

Whats up with channel 33? I was reading they were to move to channel 18 immediately and the channel 18 move means the location is different as well.It will be from the channel 21 antenna it is a multi-input design.So, what is to become of the antique 33 tower on state st?
WISE will be moving to channel 18, but this will not happen until we get all the RF equipment needed shipped in. We have most of it, but still waiting for a few things. We are also waiting to get the people that will be doing this change over scheduled in. We are still hopeful to get done sometime in July. This will also bring the signal back up to full power. (Currently the current transmitter is running at 50% power due to some issues with it).

The current WISE tower and building was sold over a year ago and we are leasing space on the tower and building until the transmitter at the WPTA site can be powered up.

WISE will be moving to channel 18, but this will not happen until we get all the RF equipment needed shipped in. We have most of it, but still waiting for a few things. We are also waiting to get the people that will be doing this change over scheduled in. We are still hopeful to get done sometime in July.

Please keep us posted on this. I'm pointing at South Bend right now and will continue to do so until I hear that the WISE-DT situation has been corrected.

Thanks ENGjas for the updates so far.

When dt-39 first came on they had full screen 1080i but ran special nature scenes. Still no H.D. on Wfwa. I as really p----d off at them. We do send money to them. This week I had a rotor and high input Winegard pre-amp installed and WBGU D.T.27 comes in great here on the North East end of F.W. No break-ups yet but the signal level doubles in the evening and night. WBGU does 1080i full screen broadcasting. I purchased 16:9 H.D. televisions so I could enjoy the potential sharp pictures. The antenna is a Philex made in Europe and has slightly more gain than a Winegard 8 bow tie type. I am going to replace it with a Televes xg-43 and this should make a big change. The antenna is 32 feet above the roof. I do have a like new Channel master 4251 7 foot parabolic UHF antenna but will only put it up for a distance test. I will keep you posted and will have someone help me post pictures.

I would love to get my hands on one of those parabolics, but I'm not a wealthy man. :-/

I have found 2 of them and will try to rescue the beasts.One is a six foot diameter and the other is a 7 foot one like mine. I am really going to try to get these two antennas down to restore them to look newer. Hopefully the owners will want them gone! I like the simple design and the performance is untouched even in 2009.

Well, if you ever want to part with one at a good price for an online pal, just let me know. ;-)

I look forward to seeing your pics too.

When dt-39 first came on they had full screen 1080i but ran special nature scenes. Still no H.D. on Wfwa. I as really p----d off at them. We do send money to them. This week I had a rotor and high input Winegard pre-amp installed and WBGU D.T.27 comes in great here on the North East end of F.W. No break-ups yet but the signal level doubles in the evening and night. WBGU does 1080i full screen broadcasting. I purchased 16:9 H.D. televisions so I could enjoy the potential sharp pictures. The antenna is a Philex made in Europe and has slightly more gain than a Winegard 8 bow tie type. I am going to replace it with a Televes xg-43 and this should make a big change. The antenna is 32 feet above the roof. I do have a like new Channel master 4251 7 foot parabolic UHF antenna but will only put it up for a distance test. I will keep you posted and will have someone help me post pictures.

I had some email correspondence with 39 regarding this, but, that ultimately ended. Not really sure everything they said in the back and forth was totally truthful anyway.

When dt-39 first came on they had full screen 1080i but ran special nature scenes. Still no H.D. on Wfwa. I as really p----d off at them. We do send money to them. This week I had a rotor and high input Winegard pre-amp installed and WBGU D.T.27 comes in great here on the North East end of F.W. No break-ups yet but the signal level doubles in the evening and night. WBGU does 1080i full screen broadcasting.

This has been explained here before. When WFWA had HD service it was a pre-packaged feed from PBS national. It basically went from the satellite receiver direct to the transmitter. We did not and do not have local HD recording and playback capability.

I have said before WFWA wants to provide HD service and we are actively seeking funding to purchase the required equipment. Like most everybody else the economic downturn hit us as well. Philanthropic giving has been seriously curtailed as the foundations investment portfolios have shrunk leaving less dollars for grants. The Governor zeroed out our state funding payment for the second half of 2009 and proposes a total of zero dollars for 2010. (Our funding means all Indiana PBS stations)

Grant dollars at the national level have been earmarked to get stations through the digital transition and provide full power DTV service. The money is meant for transmitters, towers, antennas, transmission lines and things like that. Now that the transition is "done" future grants should allow us to address our internal video/audio infrastructure. These grants require us to raise at least 25% of the project funding from other sources so it is still not a slam dunk.

So if you want to make a $ gift you can say it is to go into the HD server project fund. We have some local grant funds in the pot now that are specified as to only be used for the HD project. We have several pending grant requests out in the wild and are waiting to see if they are approved.

Regards to all

Matt

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When dt-39 first came on they had full screen 1080i but ran special nature scenes. Still no H.D. on Wfwa. I as really p----d off at them. We do send money to them. This week I had a rotor and high input Winegard pre-amp installed and WBGU D.T.27 comes in great here on the North East end of F.W. No break-ups yet but the signal level doubles in the evening and night. WBGU does 1080i full screen broadcasting.

This has been explained here before. When WFWA had HD service it was a pre-packaged feed from PBS national. It basically went from the satellite receiver direct to the transmitter. We did not and do not have local HD recording and playback capability.

I have said before WFWA wants to provide HD service and we are actively seeking funding to purchase the required equipment. Like most everybody else the economic downturn hit us as well. Philanthropic giving has been seriously curtailed as the foundations investment portfolios have shrunk leaving less dollars for grants. The Governor zeroed out our state funding payment for the second half of 2009 and proposes a total of zero dollars for 2010. (Our funding means all Indiana PBS stations)

Grant dollars at the national level have been earmarked to get stations through the digital transition and provide full power DTV service. The money is meant for transmitters, towers, antennas, transmission lines and things like that. Now that the transition is "done" future grants should allow us to address our internal video/audio infrastructure. These grants require us to raise at least 25% of the project funding from other sources so it is still not a slam dunk.

So if you want to make a $ gift you can say it is to go into the HD server project fund. We have some local grant funds in the pot now that are specified as to only be used for the HD project. We have several pending grant requests out in the wild and are waiting to see if they are approved.

Regards to all

Matt

It seems there are quite a few broadcasters who still don't have HD storage capability. Still though, they do offer a portion of their programming via satellite. Isn't it possible for WFWA to do something like that? It would seem to be a fair middle ground while the additional facilities needed for a full HD schedule are procured.

It seems there are quite a few broadcasters who still don't have HD storage capability. Still though, they do offer a portion of their programming via satellite. Isn't it possible for WFWA to do something like that? It would seem to be a fair middle ground while the additional facilities needed for a full HD schedule are procured.
I think their decision to have 4 channels pretty much kills that idea. While theoretically possible to nix a couple of the subs in favor of more bandwidth for 39.1 during primetime, PBSMatt said in an earlier post that things went very badly when they experimented with that.

I for one would be more than willing to give up one or two of the subs (permanently) even for a few programs in HD on the main!!!

Perhaps the kids channel 39.2 and Create 39.3 could be combined (kids in the morning, Create during mid day, kids in the mid afternoon, Create all evening?). I can't say that I've ever watched anything on 39.4 but that's just me.

I think their decision to have 4 channels pretty much kills that idea. While theoretically possible to nix a couple of the subs in favor of more bandwidth for 39.1 during primetime, PBSMatt said in an earlier post that things went very badly when they experimented with that.

I for one would be more than willing to give up one or two of the subs (permanently) even for a few programs in HD on the main!!!

Perhaps the kids channel 39.2 and Create 39.3 could be combined (kids in the morning, Create during mid day, kids in the mid afternoon, Create all evening?). I can't say that I've ever watched anything on 39.4 but that's just me.

Martian21 is correct. It is something that was tried and does not work with our current encoder. More often than not it failed to change, locked up or even worse hosed the channel tables so we disappeared from peoples sets.

It is something that will probably be our first step once we gather the funds to replace the encoder. New encoders are much more bandwidth efficient and could possibly allow HD plus 2 SD with little or no loss in quality. Of course we won't know until we get one and see what it can do with our program mix.

Not all prime time programs are live feeds, many are recorded so we can place them in the line up where we want. Once PBS moves to mostly IP based file delivery instead of real time video the local server becomes even more critical.

Now that analog is gone we have been kicking around ideas to change the channel lineups. No concrete outcome yet. Feedback tells us that Create is very popular. 39-2 kids gets good feedback as well. Some combo of the two is certainly possible as the programs on both repeat during the day, but hey I'm just the engineer.

We are on the path to HD; I'm not sure how long the path is. One of our federal grant requests if approved will address the encoder and HD server issue in one fell swoop. I’ve got my fingers crossed!

Matt

Aren't growing pains fun, Matt? Thanks for the straight forward answers. That's always appreciated.

Right now, WFFT is running a nice-looking HD crawl, but the program is SD. Hmm.

ETA: On second thought, I'm not sure if the crawl's HD. It IS 16:9, and it looks better than the program (which itself is like an upconverted syndicated re-run, almost).

So, imagine my fury when I remembered that the third and fourth rounds of the Open are on WISE...beautiful, 50% power WISE 33. So I'll be enjoying it in SD. Ugh.

So, imagine my fury when I remembered that the third and fourth rounds of the Open are on WISE...beautiful, 50% power WISE 33. So I'll be enjoying it in SD. Ugh.

FWIW, WISE-DT's current 50% power level is equal to 142.5 kW, a long way from being a low power station. Are you receiving WFWA-DT? It is licensed at 90 kW. Are you receiving the new WINM translator in Fort Wayne, W38EA-D 38 with 15 kW (from the WFWA tower)? You didn't list your location, but you may need to check your receive equipment.

So, imagine my fury when I remembered that the third and fourth rounds of the Open are on WISE...beautiful, 50% power WISE 33. So I'll be enjoying it in SD. Ugh.
are you insinuating that low power and SD are somehow related? how is that possible?

are you insinuating that low power and SD are somehow related? how is that possible?


I believe he is only stating that at the lower power he is unable to lock the WISE-DT signal and must rely on either his local cable company or satellite provider for the SD feed.

Derek2k3............

As goldrich stated, you need to take a look at your receive equipment. From your previous posts I see you live in Blufton. I don't believe you should be having the issues with WISE-DT that you are experiencing. I also see you are using what you referred to as a "uni-directional" antenna. If you meant an omni-directional antenna, that may be your biggest issue.

Details of your receive equipment, i.e. type of antenna, TV and antenna model numbers, etc., might get you better info/solutions to assist with your issues.

Looks like 21 is asleep at the HD wheel again..

/Indy Iowa race

Just another reason Im glad most of this years season is on Versus.....even though they have had a few mis-cues thier brodcasts have been 100 times better than on ABC\ESPN.

Thanks for the replies to my rant of a post...

You are correct, the only correlation between 50% power and SD is that I am unable to recieve WISE at the time.

What gets me is that I recieve every other channel, PBS, ABC CBS and FOX without so much as a blurb. WISE is the only issue I have, which I assume will go away once the signal gets back to full strength.

Thanks again :)

I was at my in-laws house last night and they could receive all local channels except WISE with a (cheap) set of rabbit ears.

They are only about 15 miles from the towers. I'm certain an antennae upgrade would easily bring in WISE. Of course from their perspective, there is nothing wrong with the antennae they have when it can receive all the other local stations. Therefore, in their mind, the problem must be at WISE.

I can guarantee you that they aren't rushing out to buy a new antennae. They went with the low-tech solution - change the channel.

I'm certain my in-laws aren't the only customers in the area who have taken that approach. We may not pay anything out of pocket for the service but we are still customers and our eyes on the advertising is worth money. When the competition's service "works" and yours doesn't (perceived or otherwise) you have a problem.

I hope WISE is able to get their power level back up soon. While suggesting that customers upgrade their antennae is certainly a viable solution when their old (paid for) antennae works fine for all other channels I don't see many wallets opening up, especially in this economy.

My $0.02

Martian21

Looks like 21 is asleep at the HD wheel again..

This kind of thing is getting really irritating. If the Fort Wayne broadcasters aren't capable of serving their viewers with decent service, would it be too much to ask for a waiver so I can watch the out of market locals via satellite?

The answer is no, because they know nobody would watch them if there was a choice. Rather they just make themselves the only game in this two horse town.

I suppose those of us who live in an area where we get OTA TV from South Bend or Indy in addition to Fort Wayne should consider ourselves very fortunate to have some sort of other option.

Looks like 21 is asleep at the HD wheel again..

/Indy Iowa race

engjas, is there any way that you can guarantee, barring technical difficulties on ABCs end, that the final two Indy races on 21 will be in HD? I know in the past I've had to call the news room to alert someone there that the race should be in HD. I would've called last Sunday, but I DVRed the race and just watched it last night.

I know in the past I've had to call the news room to alert someone there that the race should be in HD.

But c'mon... should ya really have to do that? Doesn't WPTA know beforehand that ABC is going to offer an HD feed? I'm guessing it all comes down on one of the ABC net feeds anyway, so is there really that much manual intervention required on the local level?

It's just very frustrating to the viewers when there's all of this technology that's supposed to make TV better than it has ever been, and the people at the stations can't seem to get it right. These are the same people who on February 17th said "This delay is ridiculous. They've known for years and years that this day was coming and did nothing to prepare themselves."

How can you possibly expect the general viewing public to have a clue when people who do this for a living can't seem to figure it out? :(

BTW, I'm not knocking anyone in particular. I just think its kinda silly that these things happen as much as they do.

But c'mon... should ya really have to do that? Doesn't WPTA know beforehand that ABC is going to offer an HD feed? I'm guessing it all comes down on one of the ABC net feeds anyway, so is there really that much manual intervention required on the local level?

It's just very frustrating to the viewers when there's all of this technology that's supposed to make TV better than it has ever been, and the people at the stations can't seem to get it right. These are the same people who on February 17th said "This delay is ridiculous. They've known for years and years that this day was coming and did nothing to prepare themselves."

How can you possibly expect the general viewing public to have a clue when people who do this for a living can't seem to figure it out? :(

BTW, I'm not knocking anyone in particular. I just think its kinda silly that these things happen as much as they do.
Come on Skylooker you should understand it's all about "dead presidents" other than WANE-dt ch15 the other Ft.Wayne stations have been struggling for operating cash for years!! ESPECIALLY CH 21 and 33 respectively.I figured you would have access to ABC markets to the North in Michigan? If you live up on "Hoosier Hill" it should be a OTA tv paradise!! The owner of Lakeland Electronics did his antenna tests from there.As I stated in a previous post I gave up on Ft.W tv 30 years ago.

Well I haven't found very much that I can use from Michigan, but South Bend is working out pretty well. The only problem I have with that market is the low power stations. ABC comes and goes, CW disappeared on June 12 and MY is rarely viewable from here. The other networks are fine though, especially CBS on WSBT. That comes in perfectly.

It would be nice to watch Fort Wayne TV once in a great while, but its really not worth the effort. If I really want to watch Fort Wayne that bad, I can get them via DISH, and soon in HD, if what I"m hearing is true.

Anyway, I guess I'll just keep my expectations low when it comes to the Fort Wayne stations and try to watch stations from the surrounding markets whenever possible.

Speaking of 21 and 33 ... I did a rescan late last night and both were found by my receiver (in Elkhart). 33 had too many drops to watch, but 21 was fine and I watched for a while. They disappeared this afternoon so it is probably all atmospherics.

My antenna isn't aimed at Fort Wayne. It is aimed at the South Bend core tower field. I tried a combined antenna a couple of years ago aimed both directions but it caused mire problems than it solved. I might try again (or put in a switched antenna).

WISE gets knocked out (satellite?) just before the end of the Tonight Show, and Dinosaur Jr. is on Late Night. WNDU, I love you.

ETA: Nah, can't be the network satellite, the whole thing's out, where it triggers the "no signal," but there's still a good signal reading.

WISE gets knocked out (satellite?) just before the end of the Tonight Show, and Dinosaur Jr. is on Late Night. WNDU, I love you.

ETA: Nah, can't be the network satellite, the whole thing's out, where it triggers the "no signal," but there's still a good signal reading.

Wonder if they took a lightning hit? I'm typing this from my desk at WANE at 2 in the morning after getting called in because of one. Thankfully, it didn't roast anything over the air here.....

WISE gets knocked out (satellite?) just before the end of the Tonight Show, and Dinosaur Jr. is on Late Night. WNDU, I love you.

ETA: Nah, can't be the network satellite, the whole thing's out, where it triggers the "no signal," but there's still a good signal reading.
We took a major lightning hit and it messed up the STL link to the transmitter so we lost the signal going to the transmitter. This was back up after a few hours.

DISH has Fort Wayne locals available in HD as of today. Looks pretty comparable to OTA. Nice to see them keep to the schedule.

DISH has Fort Wayne locals available in HD as of today. Looks pretty comparable to OTA. Nice to see them keep to the schedule.

So, what do I have to do to see them as there is no such thing coming through on our Dish HD receiver?

You have to have a HD capable reciver pointing at the right sat (129, I think) hooked to a HDTV. If you're not getting 15, 21, 33 and 55 in HD now, you're missing one or more of the above.

You have to have a HD capable reciver pointing at the right sat (129, I think) hooked to a HDTV. If you're not getting 15, 21, 33 and 55 in HD now, you're missing one or more of the above.

I would have hoped they'd do 129 AND 61.5. I'm pointed at 61.5. Screw 'em, I'm sure the OTA is better anyway.

I'm not saying its not on 61.5. I'm just getting it from 129. They may offer you a free upgrade to 129, just call and ask. As for quality, looks pretty good compared to OTA and will probably be a lot less hassle, for me anyway.

I'm not saying its not on 61.5. I'm just getting it from 129. They may offer you a free upgrade to 129, just call and ask. As for quality, looks pretty good compared to OTA and will probably be a lot less hassle, for me anyway.

After you mentioned it I confirmed its just on 129 at another site.

You have to have a HD capable reciver pointing at the right sat (129, I think) hooked to a HDTV. If you're not getting 15, 21, 33 and 55 in HD now, you're missing one or more of the above.

Why is there no Dish HD for 39 and 63?

39 has no HD programming. Don't know about 63 but I don't think they do either.

What are the odds that today's Indy race will be in HD? I again won't be around today and will have to DVR it.

I'm glad that NASCAR has been in that "local tv not involved" mode.

What are the odds that today's Indy race will be in HD? I again won't be around today and will have to DVR it.

It WAS in HD.

I'm not saying its not on 61.5. I'm just getting it from 129. They may offer you a free upgrade to 129, just call and ask. As for quality, looks pretty good compared to OTA and will probably be a lot less hassle, for me anyway.

Had to haggle my way out of a $59.95 trip charge, but, should be down to one Dish this Friday looking at 100, 119 and 129.

Sweet, enjoy the HD locals.

Sweet, enjoy the HD locals.

Well, I've got the antenna and the ota, as a long time Dish customer its just the principle of the thing.

I'm not sure what you mean. They're giving you a free upgrade, right? That's about all they can do at this point. Having to haggle with them is a PITA, but that's to be expected. It would be nice if they just offered it to you (or anyone) for free, but that rarely ever happens anymore.

Update: There's a barker now available on DISH channel 90 that says if you're not able to get your locals in HD, you can call for a free upgrade. Not sure why there would be any haggling at all, if that's the case.

Fox's time is changing and it is throwing off my DVR :mad: Anybody have any info on why this is happening? All the other channels are correct. I checked after work, and it was working properly, but then tonight it switched again!

I'm not sure what you mean. They're giving you a free upgrade, right? That's about all they can do at this point. Having to haggle with them is a PITA, but that's to be expected. It would be nice if they just offered it to you (or anyone) for free, but that rarely ever happens anymore.

Update: There's a barker now available on DISH channel 90 that says if you're not able to get your locals in HD, you can call for a free upgrade. Not sure why there would be any haggling at all, if that's the case.

I called. The dish is free but there is a $59.95 charge for the installation which is what I haggled my way out of.

DISH has Fort Wayne locals available in HD as of today. Looks pretty comparable to OTA. Nice to see them keep to the schedule.

Well, my installation went just fine and I would agree that the pictures are comparable. More so than I though they would be.

Anyone know whats up with 21 this morning?

All three 33 channels are showing no signal. I just did a rescan but it didnt help any. Whats going on??

All three 33 channels are showing no signal. I just did a rescan but it didnt help any. Whats going on??

I wonder, too. My 52" Sammy shows 60% signal and gets picture but no sound. My DTV Pal doesn't get anything. I can watch channel 13 from Indy fine! :confused:

All three 33 channels are showing no signal. I just did a rescan but it didnt help any. Whats going on??
I also have lost all three WISE 33 (DTV ch-19) channels. The RF signal strength is fine, but the video is just a blank dark screen with no audio. My receiver is a Dish DTVPal DVR. I receive all the other Ft Wayne channels fine. Tried reboots, factory reset, deleting channels, rescanning, nothing fixes the problem. It is interesting to note that my other receiver, an older Samsung digital STB, does receive ch33 okay. Apparently, something in WISE's digital transmission has changed that some receivers (like my Dish DTVPal DVR) don't like. I tried to find a contact email for WISE, but found nothing. It might help if tomorrow someone living in Ft Wayne could telephone the station to let them know about this (I live in Ohio).

I also have lost all three WISE 33 (DTV ch-19) channels. The RF signal strength is fine, but the video is just a blank dark screen with no audio. My receiver is a Dish DTVPal DVR. I receive all the other Ft Wayne channels fine. Tried reboots, factory reset, deleting channels, rescanning, nothing fixes the problem. It is interesting to note that my other receiver, an older Samsung digital STB, does receive ch33 okay. Apparently, something in WISE's digital transmission has changed that some receivers (like my Dish DTVPal DVR) don't like. I tried to find a contact email for WISE, but found nothing. It might help if tomorrow someone living in Ft Wayne could telephone the station to let them know about this (I live in Ohio).
We had a problem with our encoder. This was corrected around 9:30 this morning. You should now be able to pick up the WISE channels now.

I use DirecTV for HD locals. I don't watch them much over the summer, but when I do I see quite a few blue screen video alarm detected messages on 33. Does this happen with any of the other stations?

I use DirecTV for HD locals. I don't watch them much over the summer, but when I do I see quite a few blue screen video alarm detected messages on 33. Does this happen with any of the other stations?

Something in the universe today as I just got off the phone with a viewer with the same complaint, and no, its not isolated to 33. Its all stations (according to her).

The lady I spoke with on the phone called tech support and they couldn't give her an answer?? Most interesting.....

Ha, that wasn't me :).

They only last for a few seconds, audio comes back first then comes the picture.

I'll try to pay more attention to when I see them. Like I said, I haven't seen much OTA lately. I'll see it quite often when I watch NBC nightly news.

Anyone know whats up with 21 this morning?

If you are referring to no audio and video for an hour or two Saturday morning, I noticed it too. Most of the Fort Wayne stations were booming into Indy in the morning, so there was lots of OTA signal from WPTA but the station wasn't feeding any programming. Just a blank picture and zero audio.

Then on Sunday I noticed one of the low power digital stations in Indy was experiencing the same issue. Is it something contagious among DTV stations?

Steve

Something in the universe today as I just got off the phone with a viewer with the same complaint, and no, its not isolated to 33. Its all stations (according to her).

The lady I spoke with on the phone called tech support and they couldn't give her an answer?? Most interesting.....


The message is:


"Video Alarm Detected. Service ID 1. (5690)"

a screencap is attached.

All DirecTV customers are seeing this message intermittently on WISE channel 33. There is an issue with the OTA reception of the WISE-DT feed prior to uplink to DirecTV. DirecTV is aware of the issue, and working on resolution.

The message is:


"Video Alarm Detected. Service ID 1. (5690)"

a screencap is attached.

All DirecTV customers are seeing this message intermittently on WISE channel 33. There is an issue with the OTA reception of the WISE-DT feed prior to uplink to DirecTV. DirecTV is aware of the issue, and working on resolution.

I'm aware of the issue with 33 through DirecTv (the LCF is sitting 50 feet from me) but I could have sworn the caller said it was on ALL channels. I personally dont have Direct so I couldn't say for sure.

The message is:


"Video Alarm Detected. Service ID 1. (5690)"

a screencap is attached.

All DirecTV customers are seeing this message intermittently on WISE channel 33. There is an issue with the OTA reception of the WISE-DT feed prior to uplink to DirecTV. DirecTV is aware of the issue, and working on resolution.
There was a signal issue with WISE and that was causing the DirecTV receiver fits.
I think I finally tracked it down and corrected the problem this morning. There were also consumer receivers out there having problems also, but will need to see if it holds.

DISH network getting freezing on WISE, intermittently. Looks like a symptom of the WISE signal issue.

DISH network getting freezing on WISE, intermittently. Looks like a symptom of the WISE signal issue.
Cancel my last response, the problem has come back. We are still looking into the problem.

If DISH or DirecTV don't have a dedicated link to WISE (e.g. fiber straight from WISE Master Control to the providers uplink), you probably won't have to look to hard to find your problem. If there are OTA signal issues and and the sat providers are at any point receiving WISE OTA, then there's probably going to be an occasional "unlock" in the chain between WISE and DISH/DirecTV, thus creating the symptoms the subscribers are seeing.

If that's indeed the case, I would suspect the issue will go away if/whenever WISE gets their transmitter mess sorted out.

Am I on the right track here, or no?

If DISH or DirecTV don't have a dedicated link to WISE (e.g. fiber straight from WISE Master Control to the providers uplink), you probably won't have to look to hard to find your problem. If there are OTA signal issues and and the sat providers are at any point receiving WISE OTA, then there's probably going to be an occasional "unlock" in the chain between WISE and DISH/DirecTV, thus creating the symptoms the subscribers are seeing.

If that's indeed the case, I would suspect the issue will go away if/whenever WISE gets their transmitter mess sorted out.

Am I on the right track here, or no?
DirecTV and Dish both get all the Fort Wayne stations OTA exept for WANE on the DirecTV side and WFWA on the Dish side.
DirecTV's gear is at the WANE's building and Dish'e is at the WFWA building. I have not head of any plans for them to receive the signals via fiber.

DirecTV and Dish both get all the Fort Wayne stations OTA exept for WANE on the DirecTV side and WFWA on the Dish side. DirecTV's gear is at the WANE's building and Dish'e is at the WFWA building.

And from there they are sent via fiber to the respective providers, no?

Without knowing for sure I would suspect that the over the air hop from WISE's tower to the provider's gear is the weak link. Any clue on a date when that might get squared away? As a viewer that's kind of important to me, as it now affects me even though I'm watching on satellite. It should be important to WISE too, yet that doesn't appear to be the case from where I'm sitting.

Again, I appreciate your participation, ENGjas, but I want someone at WISE to get a feel for the frustration on the part of the viewer and how I feel like we're being taken for granted. Imagine how you would feel if you got the newspaper delivered everyday with little holes cut out of the articles. It's sort of the same thing here. Wouldn't you just start getting a different paper after a while?

ENGjas,
I know that this is probably way out of your area of control, but perhaps you could put in a word with who is.

I have noticed that at the Tincaps game, things like your weather forecasts are filmed in widescreen, but then the bars are added to the top/bottom for 4:3, then stretched on their hugescreen TV. It is super annoying, even more so than native 4:3 content that is stretched. I noticed it at the 2nd game of the season (my first) and told the chick at the comments table, but I doubt that it got to who it needed to.

And from there they are sent via fiber to the respective providers, no?

Without knowing for sure I would suspect that the over the air hop from WISE's tower to the provider's gear is the weak link. Any clue on a date when that might get squared away? As a viewer that's kind of important to me, as it now affects me even though I'm watching on satellite. It should be important to WISE too, yet that doesn't appear to be the case from where I'm sitting.

Again, I appreciate your participation, ENGjas, but I want someone at WISE to get a feel for the frustration on the part of the viewer and how I feel like we're being taken for granted. Imagine how you would feel if you got the newspaper delivered everyday with little holes cut out of the articles. It's sort of the same thing here. Wouldn't you just start getting a different paper after a while?

I'll chime in a bit here.

DirecTV has been both here at WANE and over at WISE several times over the last few months working on the problem. So I can attest what ENGjas is saying that they are working on it.

Yes, the signal leaves WANE (in DirecTv's case) via fiber.

On a personal note, lately 33 has been coming in quite nice for me at my home about 20 miles south of the towers; whereas before it was a bit of a crap shoot. So any adjustments that they are making IMO are at the very least heading the right direction....

On a personal note, lately 33 has been coming in quite nice for me at my home about 20 miles south of the towers; whereas before it was a bit of a crap shoot. So any adjustments that they are making IMO are at the very least heading the right direction....

Well, I don't know if WISE considers Steuben County as a part of it's target audience, but up here it's not looking so good as it may be to the south. The freezes on DISH are tolerable, but the OTA signal is, at best, hit and miss... and unfortunately it's more miss that hit. I realize all of this comes down to having the money to fix things. In the meantime however, I find that with the exception of a few shows here and there, I've migrated my viewing habits away from the locals and thusly away from their advertisers as well. This wasn't the case at first, but as more time passed and the more frustrating it got, I just found that without even thinking about it that much, I was watching more satellite based programming.

Remember, it's much easier to lose a customer (viewer) than it is to get a new one and even harder to get an unhappy one back. Keep that in mind as the days continue to pass without a fix for these issues.

Some viewers in the Fort Wayne area, especially just south of Fort Wayne, with a good outdoor antenna aimed south, should be able to see some PBS-HD via WIPB-DT 23 (49.1 & 49.2), Muncie. Per their CE, the station is now operating at 250 kW @ 807 ft., its maximum power and height, since yesterday afternoon at 3:30. I'm 40 miles from their tower just south of Muncie, near Cowan, and the signal is very strong.

Steve

Well, I don't know if WISE considers Steuben County as a part of it's target audience, but up here it's not looking so good as it may be to the south. The freezes on DISH are tolerable, but the OTA signal is, at best, hit and miss... and unfortunately it's more miss that hit. I realize all of this comes down to having the money to fix things. In the meantime however, I find that with the exception of a few shows here and there, I've migrated my viewing habits away from the locals and thusly away from their advertisers as well. This wasn't the case at first, but as more time passed and the more frustrating it got, I just found that without even thinking about it that much, I was watching more satellite based programming.

Remember, it's much easier to lose a customer (viewer) than it is to get a new one and even harder to get an unhappy one back. Keep that in mind as the days continue to pass without a fix for these issues.

I'm about 25 miles north of Fort Wayne and haven't had any issues with WISE. I use a DB2 antenna mounted on the roof with no amp of any kind. The only channel I have had any issues with is the CW, 21-2. It's not bad but I get occassional breakup on it. 21-1 and 21-3 come in fine though...

I'm about 25 miles north of Fort Wayne and haven't had any issues with WISE. I use a DB2 antenna mounted on the roof with no amp of any kind. The only channel I have had any issues with is the CW, 21-2. It's not bad but I get occassional breakup on it. 21-1 and 21-3 come in fine though...
Well, I'm about 22 miles NNW of Auburn, so I have to work a little harder at getting a good signal. I haven't ruled out replacing the antenna and/or amp, but I want to find something affordable with the best gain I can get.

As for 21.2, it's all a mux so if you're seeing issues on it and not the other two subs, I would have to guess it's not an OTA issue. It could be anything in the chain, specific to the CW subchannel. I never watch CW, but I do watch the syndicated programming once in an while and haven't seen any issues.

So, has anyone else noticed that locally generated content on WFFT has a sound issue? On national content, the 5.1 sounds fine, but on local content, it almost sounds like only the front left channel is active. I get sound out of the right speaker, but it is at a much lower volume. My system is setup correctly; this is the only channel I have this problem with.

PBSMatt, I haven't noticed PSIP data for 39 lately; are you aware of any problems on your end?

So, has anyone else noticed that locally generated content on WFFT has a sound issue? On national content, the 5.1 sounds fine, but on local content, it almost sounds like only the front left channel is active. I get sound out of the right speaker, but it is at a much lower volume. My system is setup correctly; this is the only channel I have this problem with.
I don't think that's a sound issue per se, more like still broadcasting in mono. :p (Leakage to the right speaker, hey, that's progress!)

I don't think that's a sound issue per se, more like still broadcasting in mono. :p (Leakage to the right speaker, hey, that's progress!)

Yeah, on my TV upstairs it sounds fine, only on my surround sound do I notice it. If it is a side-effect of them only broadcasting local content in mono, then they should at least pump it to both the left and right channels.

Tuned into 21-3 hoping to see a radar view of the storms that were moving through the area and there was a slide on the screen showing today's high temp or something like that. This seems to happen a lot when the info is most vital. Quiclky switched to 15-2, but I sometimes prefer the radar loop that is sometimes available on 21-3.

BTW, any word on the fix for WISE-DT? I'm referring to the new transmitter and move from 19 to 18.

BTW, any word on the fix for WISE-DT? I'm referring to the new transmitter and move from 19 to 18.The FCC has not yet approved the application for the new frequency. No construction permit = no construction.

Look back into the thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16540465#post16540465

Look back into the thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16540465#post16540465
Look at the FCC website ... the application was filed but remains an application.
They need a CP to build.

Yes, the rulemaking was approved to change channel. But WISE holds no CP to build said channel 18 operation.

Tuned into 21-3 hoping to see a radar view of the storms that were moving through the area and there was a slide on the screen showing today's high temp or something like that. This seems to happen a lot when the info is most vital. Quiclky switched to 15-2, but I sometimes prefer the radar loop that is sometimes available on 21-3.

Emailed them about this some time ago, but, apparently they couldn't care less.

Tuned into 21-3 hoping to see a radar view of the storms that were moving through the area and there was a slide on the screen showing today's high temp or something like that. This seems to happen a lot when the info is most vital. Quiclky switched to 15-2, but I sometimes prefer the radar loop that is sometimes available on 21-3.

BTW, any word on the fix for WISE-DT? I'm referring to the new transmitter and move from 19 to 18.
The last piece of equipment needed arrived yesterday. We are waiting for the guy that will be installing and updating the RF equipment to get us scheduled in. Hopefully we will be able to get this rolling in the next week or so. I will let you know when we get a firm date for the install-setup.

Tuned into 21-3 hoping to see a radar view of the storms that were moving through the area and there was a slide on the screen showing today's high temp or something like that. This seems to happen a lot when the info is most vital. Quiclky switched to 15-2, but I sometimes prefer the radar loop that is sometimes available on 21-3.

BTW, any word on the fix for WISE-DT? I'm referring to the new transmitter and move from 19 to 18.

I really don't like the VIPIR 21.3 channel simply because it's not consistent. The content varies from minute to minute. 15.2 Fury is always a live sweep, with an occasional hour loop during storms.

I believe the 21.3 channel is directly from the VIPIR computer system, so I can see how problems like what you described can come up. It would be nice if they could update weather slides on a separate system or something. -Just my thoughts.

The last piece of equipment needed arrived yesterday. We are waiting for the guy that will be installing and updating the RF equipment to get us scheduled in. Hopefully we will be able to get this rolling in the next week or so. I will let you know when we get a firm date for the install-setup.
WISE UPDATE:
The work on the new WISE transmitter along with the channel change will start on Labor Day weekend. Should be completed in about 1 or 2 weeks.

WISE UPDATE:
The work on the new WISE transmitter along with the channel change will start on Labor Day weekend. Should be completed in about 1 or 2 weeks.

That's good news. Thanks for the update. Let us know how it goes.

15.2 Fury is always a live sweep, with an occasional hour loop during storms.

A little inside baseball trivia that may win you a bar bet sometime:

The "radar sweep" you see on live doppler maps is an visual special effect added to the image. Modern weather radar images are processed and displayed as fully rendered still frames. They add the sweep line because that's what everyone expects to see if they're looking at a live radar map...

A little inside baseball trivia that may win you a bar bet sometime:

The "radar sweep" you see on live doppler maps is an visual special effect added to the image. Modern weather radar images are processed and displayed as fully rendered still frames. They add the sweep line because that's what everyone expects to see if they're looking at a live radar map...

Yes, I know this. But still... my point is Vipir is not live. It is updated from the NWS Nexrad.

Yeah, I like the "sweep" too. I just would like for it to be there when I need it. If I can't count on that, I'll find a reliable substitute.

Lost 55 last night at home. Spent a good 45 minutes working my antenna and never got a sniff of them. See today on WFFT's facebook page that they have had some sort of transmitter failure....

Has anyone else lost their over the air PBS stations 39.1 - 39.4? I live about 20 miles south of FW in Markle.

PBS is on for me near Coldwater and Wallen in FW.

Has anyone else lost their over the air PBS stations 39.1 - 39.4? I live about 20 miles south of FW in Markle.


On in Huntington, I think the signal is down some though.

Losing 21 occasionally today for just a second or two.

I saw the tower crew on channel-7 Lp /channel 26-dt Lp South of Auburn last week. The antenna is in place hopefully they will have good programming?? Old movies etc.

Channel 7 / 26 is a 3ABN affiliate. I'd expect a lot of prayer.

http://www.3abntv.org/schedule.cfm

I read your attatched link,the old owner ran black and white movies and comedy shows Wishful thinking on my part.

Changed antennas three times and still get an occassional break-up every few minutes. Installed a rotor and no better. Could 39 be having the issue?
My location is on 8 miles from X-mitter.Receiving Wbgu 27 with better results from 57 miles away. Can not get 44 or dt-8 from lima. Have a Channel Master parabolic in storage and will put it up soon hope to report results when installed. I am waiting for the thrust bearing to arrive to take the load off of the rotor.

Does anyone know how many and what HD channels are on Mediacom in Auburn?

Does anyone know how many and what HD channels are on Mediacom in Auburn?

Last time I was at my friends house who has Mediacom, they seemed to have most of the standard fare. Is there any channel in particular you're curious about?

Last time I was at my friends house who has Mediacom, they seemed to have most of the standard fare. Is there any channel in particular you're curious about?
I currently have DirecTV, but the cost is starting to get higher that I would like to pay. I currently can get Mediacom at a much lower rate for a year, but not sure how their HD content lines up with Mediacom.

Website:
http://www.mediacomcable.com/cable_hdtv.html

Auburn Program Guide:
http://www.mediacomcable.com/pdf/Auburn_2.18.09.pdf

Website:
http://www.mediacomcable.com/cable_hdtv.html

Auburn Program Guide:
http://www.mediacomcable.com/pdf/Auburn_2.18.09.pdf
Thank You!!!!

haven't watched 33 in awhile, but am watching the michigan state game right now. still seeing glitchy picture and audio, this is on DirecTV HD locals. what's the latest and greatest on the transmitter upgrade? looks like it was supposed to be completed around now?

haven't watched 33 in awhile, but am watching the michigan state game right now. still seeing glitchy picture and audio, this is on DirecTV HD locals. what's the latest and greatest on the transmitter upgrade? looks like it was supposed to be completed around now?
The upgrade has not been completed yet. There were some items that the contractor had missed, that needed to be ordered. They should arrive this coming week, if so, this should be completed in the next two weeks.

Is anyone else having issues eith WPTA in HD via DISH Network? I couldn't watch DWTS last night. Audio was out of sync and pic got blurry when there was a significant scene change. Audio was okay via ota antenna.

Will watch WBND tonight and see if the blurriness is from the net or an issue with WPTA. I suspect the latter. I'll report back after the comparison.

WBND looks great. Anyone have any idea what's up with the quality issues on WPTA?

D.T. 26 only received when the directional antenna was aimed at Auburn. removed that antenna and installed a Winegard round omni-directional amplified antenna.We are located at Dupont rd. and tonkel Rd. . On screen signal bar shows one bar and not enough signal to receive. The signal pattern shows coverage over the south end of Ft. Wayne. Whats up?

D.T. 26 only received when the directional antenna was aimed at Auburn. removed that antenna and installed a Winegard round omni-directional amplified antenna.We are located at Dupont rd. and tonkel Rd. . On screen signal bar shows one bar and not enough signal to receive. The signal pattern shows coverage over the south end of Ft. Wayne. Whats up?
Checked Auburn DT-ch 26 full scale 100% 2 miles N.W. of Churubusco.Too bad it's all 3ABN programming.

The WISE-DT upgrade is complete. We plan on turning on the new transmitter sometime next week. We are allowing time for cable and satellite companies to be ready. Also, there will be crawls starting shortly to tell everyone to rescan their channels after the switchover to RF channel 18.

The WISE-DT upgrade is complete. We plan on turning on the new transmitter sometime next week. We are allowing time for cable and satellite companies to be ready. Also, there will be crawls starting shortly to tell everyone to rescan their channels after the switchover to RF channel 18.

Is there a firm date and time yet? Thanks.

The signal contour of D.T.26 Auburn is weaker than expected. Removed the Winegard ms 2000 all directional antenna. Put up a Philex antenna aimed at D.T.26 and a televes xg-43 at Ft.wayne. Signal level on the on screen display is just past the middle mark and is working for D.T. 26. Fort wayne is fine as well but Wfwa still has the occasional break-up. I tuned to Wfwa at work today and noticed the same problem. So PBS 39 needs to fix the problem. Finally it is not my antenna issue since I installed 4 to 5 of them. I have one antenna to try and that is a 7 foot parabolic Channel master that would be over kill.

I Put this together for some co-workers, figured I'd share it here as well.

Any additions and/or corrections are welcome.

WANE-DT (UHF Channel 31)
Virtual Channel 15-1 and Sub-Channels
15-1 CBS (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
15-2 LWS (Local Weather Station) (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 242 m
Frequency: 572-578 MHz


WPTA-DT (UHF Channel 24)
Virtual channel 21-1 and Sub-Channels
21-1 ABC (720p, 16x9, 2.0)
21-2 The CW (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
21-3 PinPoint VIPIR radar (480i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 335 kW
Tower Height: 224.4 m
Frequency: 530-536 MHz


WISE-DT (UHF Channel 19...soon to be 18)
Virtual channel 33-1 and Sub-Channels
33-1 NBC (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
33-2 MyNetworkTV (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
33-3 Local News & Weather (480i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 142.5 kW
Tower Height: 239.3 m
Frequency: 494-500 MHz and 500-506 MHz


WFFT-DT (UHF Channel 36)
Virtual Channel 55-1 No Sub-Channels
55-1 FOX (720p, 16x9, DD5.1)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 219 m
Frequency: 602-608 MHz


WFWA-DT (UHF Channel 40)
Virtual Channel 39-1 and Sub-Channels
39-1 Main WFWA Programming (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-2 Kids 39 (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-3 Create (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-4 39-4you (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 90 kW
Tower Height: 221 m
Frequency: 626-632 MHz


WINM-DT (VHF Channel 12)
Virtual Channel 38-1 and Sub-Channels
38-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
38-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 16.5 kW
Tower Height: 132 m
Frequency: unknown MHz

Channel 26 for me has 4 subchannels, with 3 and 4 being blank. Subchannels 1 and 2 have video, but no audio for me.

I Put this together for some co-workers, figured I'd share it here as well.

Any additions and/or corrections are welcome.

WANE-DT (UHF Channel 31)
Virtual Channel 15-1 and Sub-Channels
15-1 CBS (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
15-2 LWS (Local Weather Station) (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 242 m
Frequency: 572-578 MHz


WPTA-DT (UHF Channel 24)
Virtual channel 21-1 and Sub-Channels
21-1 ABC (720p, 16x9, 2.0)
21-2 The CW (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
21-3 PinPoint VIPIR radar (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 335 kW
Tower Height: 224.4 m
Frequency: 530-536 MHz


WISE-DT (UHF Channel 19...soon to be 18)
Virtual channel 33-1 and Sub-Channels
33-1 NBC (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
33-2 MyNetworkTV (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
33-3 Local News & Weather (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 142.5 kW
Tower Height: 239.3 m
Frequency: 494-500 MHz and 500-506 MHz


WFFT-DT (UHF Channel 36)
Virtual Channel 55-1 No Sub-Channels
55-1 FOX (720p, 16x9, DD5.1)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 219 m
Frequency: 602-608 MHz


WFWA-DT (UHF Channel 40)
Virtual Channel 39-1 and Sub-Channels
39-1 Main WFWA Programming (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-2 Kids 39 (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-3 Create (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-4 39-4you (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 90 kW
Tower Height: 221 m
Frequency: 626-632 MHz


WINM-DT (VHF Channel 12)
Virtual Channel 38-1 and Sub-Channels
38-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
38-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 16.5 kW
Tower Height: 132 m
Frequency: unknown MHz
FYI;
21-3 and 33-3 are in 16x9 not 4x3.

Is anyone else having issues eith WPTA in HD via DISH Network? I couldn't watch DWTS last night. Audio was out of sync and pic got blurry when there was a significant scene change. Audio was okay via ota antenna.

Will watch WBND tonight and see if the blurriness is from the net or an issue with WPTA. I suspect the latter. I'll report back after the comparison.
There was a problem with the HD encoder, this was resolved yesturday evening.

We are scheduled to make the WISE-DT19 to DT18 transition next Thursday October 15th at 12 noon EST. Please let whoever you know that they will need to rescan after the transistion. We will be running crawls to alert viewers.

I Put this together for some co-workers, figured I'd share it here as well.

Any additions and/or corrections are welcome.

WANE-DT (UHF Channel 31)
Virtual Channel 15-1 and Sub-Channels
15-1 CBS (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
15-2 LWS (Local Weather Station) (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 242 m
Frequency: 572-578 MHz


WPTA-DT (UHF Channel 24)
Virtual channel 21-1 and Sub-Channels
21-1 ABC (720p, 16x9, 2.0)
21-2 The CW (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
21-3 PinPoint VIPIR radar (480i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 335 kW
Tower Height: 224.4 m
Frequency: 530-536 MHz


WISE-DT (UHF Channel 19...soon to be 18)
Virtual channel 33-1 and Sub-Channels
33-1 NBC (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
33-2 MyNetworkTV (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
33-3 Local News & Weather (480i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 142.5 kW
Tower Height: 239.3 m
Frequency: 494-500 MHz and 500-506 MHz


WFFT-DT (UHF Channel 36)
Virtual Channel 55-1 No Sub-Channels
55-1 FOX (720p, 16x9, DD5.1)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 219 m
Frequency: 602-608 MHz


WFWA-DT (UHF Channel 40)
Virtual Channel 39-1 and Sub-Channels
39-1 Main WFWA Programming (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-2 Kids 39 (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-3 Create (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-4 39-4you (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 90 kW
Tower Height: 221 m
Frequency: 626-632 MHz


WINM-DT (VHF Channel 12)
Virtual Channel 38-1 and Sub-Channels
38-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
38-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 16.5 kW
Tower Height: 132 m
Frequency: unknown MHz

I have a few:
WINM-DT (VHF Channel 12)
Virtual Channel 63-1 and Sub-Channels (Not sure if they still remap to 63 or not)??
63-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
63-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 16.5 kW
Tower Height: 132 m
Frequency: 204-210MHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=67787

WINM-DT (UHF Channel 38) (I think this is a translator for 12/63)
Virtual Channel 38-1 and Sub-Channels
38-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
38-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 15 kW
Tower Height: 179 m
Frequency: 614-620MHz

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=67788

W07CL (UHF Channel 26)
Virtual Channel 26-1 and Sub-Channels
26-1 ?
26-2 ?
26-3 ?
26-4 ?
Transmitter: 6 kW
Tower Height: 94 m
Frequency: 542-548MHz

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=168575

We are scheduled to make the WISE-DT19 to DT18 transition next Thursday October 15th at 12 noon EST. Please let whoever you know that they will need to rescan after the transistion. We will be running crawls to alert viewers.

Damn, ENGjas. Thank God My wife doesn't watch 33 in the afternoon before going to work. 12 Noon?! C'mon, man.

Damn, ENGjas. Thank God My wife doesn't watch 33 in the afternoon before going to work. 12 Noon?! C'mon, man.
This was done so that the cable systems would have somebody there to change their receivers. Originally it was planned for overnight. Also, there will be people at the station that can answer phones. Was not my decision anyhow.

Is there any way that the PSIP broadcast can be fixed to transmit the correct day and time? WISE and WPTA are saying it is Thursday, Oct. 15 (tomorrow), according to my Samsung TV. I wouldn't really care much except that it is messing up my DTV Pal DVR. I know this DVR is supposed to get day and time info from TVGOS, but incorrect PSIP info seems to mess these machines up so that they don't record the correct programs. (I had some trouble with this last week with the incorrect time, but the date was correct. And I know that if I flash my DTV Pal firmware, it may handle the TVGOS/PSIP discrepancy better. I was hoping to avoid doing that...)

We are scheduled to make the WISE-DT19 to DT18 transition next Thursday October 15th at 12 noon EST. Please let whoever you know that they will need to rescan after the transistion. We will be running crawls to alert viewers.

I see the transition went as scheduled. About 12:30 p.m. I parked my receiver on ch. 18 and at 12:35 it picked up a very quick decode (2-3 seconds) with PSIP info here at a distance of 94 miles (and on a terrible reception day in the area).

Steve

Is there any way that the PSIP broadcast can be fixed to transmit the correct day and time? WISE and WPTA are saying it is Thursday, Oct. 15 (tomorrow), according to my Samsung TV. I wouldn't really care much except that it is messing up my DTV Pal DVR. I know this DVR is supposed to get day and time info from TVGOS, but incorrect PSIP info seems to mess these machines up so that they don't record the correct programs. (I had some trouble with this last week with the incorrect time, but the date was correct. And I know that if I flash my DTV Pal firmware, it may handle the TVGOS/PSIP discrepancy better. I was hoping to avoid doing that...)
I am not seeing a problem here at this time. Everything is checking OK and my tuners at home and at the station are correct.

Is there anyone else seeing a time problem?

Even though tower heigth is a bit short signal level on 33 is higher and solid. Also in Delphos,Oh. Channel 33 is now receiveable. The one antenna on the 21 tower with two signals combined is the correct way to broadcast television. This has been used in England forever in the analog era. And all five channels in the digital now are all from one mast and one antenna on top. This goes for all transmission towers in the U.K. Wow that just what they have done on the Sutro tower in San Francisco last week. Also what is going to happen to the old WKJG tower and antenna now abandoned on State St. ?

Even though tower heigth is a bit short signal level on 33 is higher and solid. Also in Delphos,Oh. Channel 33 is now receiveable. The one antenna on the 21 tower with two signals combined is the correct way to broadcast television. This has been used in England forever in the analog era. And all five channels in the digital now are all from one mast and one antenna on top. This goes for all transmission towers in the U.K. Wow that just what they have done on the Sutro tower in San Francisco last week. Also what is going to happen to the old WKJG tower and antenna now abandoned on State St. ?
The tower and building was sold over a year ago. We will be removing the antenna shortly. The company that currenty owns the tower already has many various antennas mounted and plans to mount more once our big antenna is removed.

ENGjas~~

Excellent job on the transition!! The crawls were very impressive, unobtrusive, and pleasing to the eye.

Has the channel change info been relayed to Tribune Media for the subchannels as well?

Has anyone else noticed audio popping on NBC HD? (FIOS)

I mainly notice it during the Thursday night lineup ("documentary" style) and it's primarily the center channel. It's sometimes voices being overly crisp at high pitches/volumes (like a crappy microphone), while others the whole sound starts 'popping'

I figure it's 1.The newish 5.1 WISE has 2.NBC or 3.My speaker is blown

aerial1:
Finally it is not my antenna issue since I installed 4 to 5 of them. I have one antenna to try and that is a 7 foot parabolic Channel master that would be over kill.

aerial1, did you ever get your ant. situation figured out? I was curious if maybe you're so close to FW that any of the 4 to 5 ant's that you've tried would have been overkill, not just the 7 foot parabolic.

You're so close, an indoor non-amplified ant would probably work best for the FW stations you're trying to get.

I helped a gentleman earlier this morning who lives by exit 25 I-469 and SR 37 by having him remove his booster- thereby lowering signal gain and it solved his problem. Thought maybe you're getting too much gain too.

FWIW,
Cheers

Just installed a channel Mstr. 4221-HD and now the 39 problem is not as severe . Just a side note Dt-12 comes in from the rear of this antenna.I Dont use d.t. 12 because D.t. 38 is stronger and of the same source. I think I am done with antenna tests for the season. I would like to test the clearstream antennas next. They look unique but the reflector looks thin and cheap. Also check out a funky looking antenna from Winegard the FV-HD30 this is a new model and I must get one to fiddle with.

Has anyone else noticed audio popping on NBC HD? (FIOS)

I mainly notice it during the Thursday night lineup ("documentary" style) and it's primarily the center channel. It's sometimes voices being overly crisp at high pitches/volumes (like a crappy microphone), while others the whole sound starts 'popping'

I figure it's 1.The newish 5.1 WISE has 2.NBC or 3.My speaker is blown

i don't watch 33 much, but i did notice this popping was REALLY bad during heroes on Monday. thought it was my DVR (direcTV) but i started googling around and it seems to be a problem with the broadcasting. some people say turning off the 5.1 will fix it...but...i have surround sound for a reason. to listen to it :)

Has anyone else noticed audio popping on NBC HD? (FIOS)

I mainly notice it during the Thursday night lineup ("documentary" style) and it's primarily the center channel. It's sometimes voices being overly crisp at high pitches/volumes (like a crappy microphone), while others the whole sound starts 'popping'

I figure it's 1.The newish 5.1 WISE has 2.NBC or 3.My speaker is blown

Happening this morning on Saturday Today.

I can't take it. 21 went off (DISH and OTA) right in the middle of NASCAR. If you guys can't keep the signal on the air, give me a waiver so I can get it from someone who can. 21 and 33 are the absolute worst!!! The antenna is pointing at South Bend again. LP 57 is still better than you guys. What a disgrace.

Found a few more applications for fort wayne. One of the D.t. channels is on low band VHF and another on D.T.33. The D.T. 33 shows the same tower location as the old anlog 33 on state st. the antenna would be 764 feet above the ground. Power is at 15k.w. Other applications are also listed. It would be nice if the programming was like WWME in Chicago. All the late 50's and 60's programs that were decent and family friendly.The others listed are 2,10,15,20,19,34 what a mess!

I heard it on Heroes, too. Glad to know others are noticing and I'm not going nuts!

5.1 would be a likely culprit

Found a few more applications for fort wayne. One of the D.t. channels is on low band VHF and another on D.T.33. The D.T. 33 shows the same tower location as the old anlog 33 on state st. the antenna would be 764 feet above the ground. Power is at 15k.w. Other applications are also listed. It would be nice if the programming was like WWME in Chicago. All the late 50's and 60's programs that were decent and family friendly.The others listed are 2,10,15,20,19,34 what a mess!
I saw the apps also,the FCC will screw around and cobble up the dt spectrum in similar fashion as the lower portion of the FM broadcast band.This was supposed to be for low power stations only.not high powered translators and such. You just knew a circus of this size was coming!!!!!

I can't take it. 21 went off (DISH and OTA) right in the middle of NASCAR. If you guys can't keep the signal on the air, give me a waiver so I can get it from someone who can. 21 and 33 are the absolute worst!!! The antenna is pointing at South Bend again. LP 57 is still better than you guys. What a disgrace.

Its synergy, baby, don't you know? Off again, right now.

Shameful. That's all I can say.

WANE is having a bit of difficulty with one of our power amplifiers. As a result, our power went down this morning. While we have it back up right now to full juice, we will have to kick it back down at some point in the future. Just an FYI if you happen to stumble across a no signal from us in the next week or 2.....

I was at my parents in Huntington over the weekend helping them rescan their HDTV, and their Panasonic Viera now shows 33-1, 33-1, 33-2, 33-2, 33-3, 33-3 as if both ch19 and 18 are still being transmitted (and only one of each pair actually works). Any ideas? Anyone else run across this? Thanks!

Haven't seen it, but I would delete them all and re-scan again. Maybe the TV is keeping the old ch. 19 info and adding the new ch. 18 info too. Better, perhaps, to start with a clean slate.

I was at my parents in Huntington over the weekend helping them rescan their HDTV, and their Panasonic Viera now shows 33-1, 33-1, 33-2, 33-2, 33-3, 33-3 as if both ch19 and 18 are still being transmitted (and only one of each pair actually works). Any ideas? Anyone else run across this? Thanks!

My set does the same thing. Some boxes will not delete the old channel, even after a re-scan. You might need to do a "double" rescan. Unplug the antenna connection, do a scan. Plug the antenna back in and then scan again.

Read about this in other markets where stations changed channel assignments like WISE did.

For DirecTV customers:

As of Wednesday morning, DirecTV has completed the transition of our SD locals feed from the 72.5 slot (18" dish) to the mpeg4 HD locals currently on the 99 spot-beam (Slimline Ka/Ku Dish).

If you are seeing a message that "your local channels have moved", follow the instructions to schedule the proper upgrade to mpeg4 equipment.

If you see a message in the channel banner that says "channel not availlable" and reverts to the current channel you are viewing, then you most likely have the correct mpeg4 receivers, but the Slimline Ka/Ku dish is either not present, or present but not recognized in the satellie setup.

I have attached pictures of the three possible Ka/Ku dishes that you could have installed. If you do not have one of these dishes installed, you would need to call to DirecTV to shedule the proper Dish Upgrade (free of charge). If you do have one of these dishes installed, and are not able to tune to any of the locals, post your details, and I can possibly walk you through changing your configuration to get the locals back.

Yesterday I spoke to the tower crew chief at the old channel 33 tower site. This is the old State Street location. The antenna on the tower was the second antenna installed in the early nineties providing mixed analog and digital out of one stick. Well currently it is being removed forever and the tower is used for a communication radio service company. A pole will be added to the top to hold the beacon light. A few LP-TV digital stations are eyeing this tower. Only time will tell. Farewell WKJG-33 you served us well since the early 1950's.

Hearing major audio clipping on Parks & Rec tonight - HD FIOS

WANE is having a bit of difficulty with one of our power amplifiers. As a result, our power went down this morning. While we have it back up right now to full juice, we will have to kick it back down at some point in the future. Just an FYI if you happen to stumble across a no signal from us in the next week or 2.....

How is this going?

Someone has updated Wikipedia to state that WANE would be adding LATV on 15-2 starting January 1, but I can find no source to back this up. Anyone know if this is accurate or not?

- Trip