"Network with a relative or friend" to split the cost of the sub is theft of service.
That is called good tv sense. Your in Middlebury you put up a 80 foot tower with the proper stacked and amped antenna and are watching chicago locals your stealing from the lousey South Bend dma market. And you split the signal and send it next door to your neighbor's house your a good business man.Sharing a SUBSCRIPTION service is theft. Sharing a non-subscription service isn't.

OTA broadcast reception is non-subscription (although if he rebroadcast the signals to enough neighbor's homes for money he might be considered a cable system - and fall under the restrictions cable systems fall under).

WFFT's future plans (http://www.jg.net/article/20110719/BLOGS01/110719543/1007/ENT):

Fort Wayne, Indiana (July 19, 2011) -- WFFT-TV, owned and operated by Nexstar Broadcasting Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: NXST), and serving the Fort Wayne, Indiana, Ohio and Michigan areas, announced today that WFFT L0CAL will debut on August 1, 2011. WFFT LOCAL will bring viewers more local news content, new and exciting feature entertainment, hit prime-time programming and blockbuster movies. Nexstar also announced that all WFFT LOCAL programming will be broadcasting in full High Definition beginning October 1, making it the first television station in the market to offer full HD broadcasts of locally produced news and special programming.

...

“Our significant investment in upgrading our equipment and broadcasts to HD also highlights our long-term community focus as WFFT LOCAL will bring viewers a terrific range of hit prime-time shows, blockbuster movies and other high quality entertainment programming to complement our market-leading news content. With our focus on local programming, WFFT LOCAL is creating highly compelling programming not only for our viewers but advertisers alike.”

...

On August 1, WFFT LOCAL’s top-rated, First News at 10 daily Monday-Friday primetime newscast will expand to a full hour. Beginning October 1, WFFT LOCAL will be the first broadcast station in the market to air its newscasts and all available programming in full HD. By October 1, WFFT will also expand its First News at 10 to a full hour at 10:00 p.m. on Saturdays and Sundays. As a result, Fort Wayne viewers will have a full hour of local news seven days a week in primetime at 10:00 p.m. Additionally, WFFT LOCAL will debut Fort Wayne’s first Sunday night live weekly sports wrap-up show, The Locker Room, on Sundays at 11:00 p.m. The Locker Room will recap the week’s local, regional and national sporting events, covering everything from local high school sports to local professional teams and the biggest professional contests from around the country....

Nexstar Broadcasting Files Antitrust Lawsuit against Granite Broadcasting and Its Fort Wayne Indiana Station, WISE-TV
- Seeks to End Granite's Monopolistic Practices in Fort Wayne for Local Television Advertising

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nexstar-broadcasting-files-antitrust-lawsuit-against-granite-broadcasting-and-its-fort-wayne-indiana-station-wise-tv-2011-07-25?reflink=MW_news_stmp

In an online customer chat this morning, a Dish Network rep told me the deal between Dish Network and My FOX Fort Wayne would be done by Monday and I would be able to "see the channels". Of course, she may have been "Peggy" chatting from a manure pit in India.

The " http://www.dropdishinftwayne.com/ " site is still up ... either WISE is sloppy in handling their website or there is no deal. The "switch" focused video is on that site.

The last INC story I can find on this is: http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Fox-Programming-Moving-to-Indianas-NewsCenter-Update-124813544.html --- channel numbers listed with DISH listed as "TBA". Negotiations are "still ongoing" in the video interview.

There have been no test channel uplinks to DISH (yet) that could carry "EISE 33.2" ... I'd say Peggy is confused.

Hooked my OTA antenna up to my Dish receiver yesterday just in case, although I expect it'll be resolved before there's any new Fox programming of interest to me (e.g., fall network shows, NFL)

MyFOX Fort Wayne is live on Channel 34 on DirecTV.

WFFT-LOCAL is no longer carried on DirecTV, though it is rumored to return in September.

Any DVR Series Recordings that were set for Channel 55, will need to be redone for channel 34.

Good Luck!!

DISH Network is testing FOX !!! (In SD.)

New Uplinks / Mappings - Channels NOT Available
7439 WISED (56) FORT WAYNE, IN (FOX) added to 110° TP 22 (SD Fort Wayne, IN market *TEST* Hidden) No EPG

DISH Network is testing FOX !!! (In SD.)

New Uplinks / Mappings - Channels NOT Available
7439 WISED (56) FORT WAYNE, IN (FOX) added to 110° TP 22 (SD Fort Wayne, IN market *TEST* Hidden) No EPG

This is a good thing for Dish subscribers, right? I'm not familiar with the channel process (upload, test, deploy etc...) Hopefully they have the HD feed up quickly. At least by September :-) Gotta have House/NFL in HD!

Uplinked usually means they are thinking about it. When the channel becomes active can be any time between immediately or never. Most channels are tested before opened up for customers to view just to make sure that the picture is viewable.

This is a SD uplink ... which is the first step. If an agreement includes the HD signal that would be a second uplink (with the SD uplink remaining to serve customers without HD equipment). DISH will have to match an EPG with the channel before turning it on.

I assume that they are mapping it at 56 to make it easier to find (next to the old Fox location). 22 and 34 are used in the neighboring South Bend market and some in the Fort Wayne market have OTA reception of 22 and 34. No one would have via satellite reception of both markets but it would be odd to get PBS OTA on 34-1 and 34-2 and the new Fox station via satellite on 34-0.

One step closer ...

7439 WISED (56) FORT WAYNE, IN (FOX) 110° TP 22 SD Fort Wayne, IN market *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added

Still not available - but now it has program guide information.

God, channel 55 is boring. Newcasters stink to high heaven. Too bad their management are a bunch of worthless hacks. They'd do MUCH better with a "baby-boomer" schedule such as Carol Burnett, Mission:Impossible, Mannix, Cannon, Charlie's Angels, Love Boat, Fantasy Island etc etc. But of course, that would require creative thinking which is beyond anyone who is employed at that station.

Seems a bit odd to see promos for Fox shows on NBC.

Per Indiana's News Center Inside Indiana Business, the negotiations are "at a standstill." (Quoting Granites COO)

Unfortunately, one cannot trust that coming from INC Granite, as they are incented to appear as though they are the good guys.

This is so ****ing ridiculous, they both need to get over their penis envy and get a deal done. Everyone knows they are going to, why wait until the last minute?

I'm planning on setting up the old antenna anyway, but this is still so stupid.


EDIT: Had the wrong site listed. Link: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?ID=49138

EDIT2: So, in the first article Lammers (Granites COO) states he does not know what Dish and Nexstars agreement was, and that Granite does not take previous agreements into account when negotiating. Then, in this article http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110809/BIZ/308099939/1031/BIZ Lammers complains that Dish is asking for a 325% increase. Hey, buddy, how do you know if you, "Don't know what Dish was charging Nexstar..."?

What a load of crap.

Per Indiana's News Center Inside Indiana Business, the negotiations are "at a standstill." (Quoting Granites COO)

Unfortunately, one cannot trust that coming from INC Granite, as they are incented to appear as though they are the good guys.

This is so ****ing ridiculous, they both need to get over their penis envy and get a deal done. Everyone knows they are going to, why wait until the last minute?

I'm planning on setting up the old antenna anyway, but this is still so stupid.


EDIT: Had the wrong site listed. Link: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?ID=49138

EDIT2: So, in the first article Lammers (Granites COO) states he does not know what Dish and Nexstars agreement was, and that Granite does not take previous agreements into account when negotiating. Then, in this article http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110809/BIZ/308099939/1031/BIZ Lammers complains that Dish is asking for a 325% increase. Hey, buddy, how do you know if you, "Don't know what Dish was charging Nexstar..."?

What a load of crap.

Well, you have it ass backwards. Lammers didn't mention a 325% increase, the Dish spokesman did. The station charges Dish not the other way around. Per the story on J-G web site.

Lammers didn't mention a 325% increase, the Dish spokesman did. The station charges Dish not the other way around. Per the story on J-G web site.
DISH (and other satellite/cable) are prohibited by law from charging stations for carriage. The other way isn't prohibited - it is encouraged by laws that allow a station to withhold consent to carry in exchange for money or other consideration.

The 325% probably includes a raise for 33.1 as well. For example (purely theoretical) 33.1 currently costs 47c per subscriber per month and now they want $2 per month for both 33.1 and 33.2 .

DISH is not required to carry subchannels - only the .1 (in this case 33.1) is required to be offered carriage. But Fox is programming that they wish to carry so they negotiate - and try to keep the cost within reason.

There is also the aspect of 55 to deal with. Unless DISH's contract automatically lowered the price if the affiliation is lost DISH could be paying 55 even though they are no longer a network affiliate. When that contract expires 55 will likely become a "must carry" station that can force carriage but doesn't get paid ... unless they can become popular enough to charge for their signal.

It isn't an immediate case of taking the x dollars per month DISH paid 55 and pay 33.2 instead. DISH didn't make a contract with the network, they worked out agreements with the stations.

DISH (and other satellite/cable) are prohibited by law from charging stations for carriage. The other way isn't prohibited - it is encouraged by laws that allow a station to withhold consent to carry in exchange for money or other consideration.

The 325% probably includes a raise for 33.1 as well. For example (purely theoretical) 33.1 currently costs 47c per subscriber per month and now they want $2 per month for both 33.1 and 33.2 .

DISH is not required to carry subchannels - only the .1 (in this case 33.1) is required to be offered carriage. But Fox is programming that they wish to carry so they negotiate - and try to keep the cost within reason.

There is also the aspect of 55 to deal with. Unless DISH's contract automatically lowered the price if the affiliation is lost DISH could be paying 55 even though they are no longer a network affiliate. When that contract expires 55 will likely become a "must carry" station that can force carriage but doesn't get paid ... unless they can become popular enough to charge for their signal.

It isn't an immediate case of taking the x dollars per month DISH paid 55 and pay 33.2 instead. DISH didn't make a contract with the network, they worked out agreements with the stations.

I believe Dish and Nexstar/55 allowed the contact to expire, but I'm not sure. Either way, it's gonna be a tough sell for WFFT. There just isn't anything that they can use as leverage.

I believe Dish and Nexstar/55 allowed the contact to expire, but I'm not sure. Either way, it's gonna be a tough sell for WFFT. There just isn't anything that they can use as leverage.
DISH still carries WFFT 55 ... in SD and HD ... and they would not be doing that if their contract had expired. If they are carried as a "must carry" station (doubtful for a major affiliate) that status would continue beyond the loss of affiliation. That would be their biggest leverage in the future - an existing law that protects local stations.

If WFFT is "consent to carry" (likely) I could see that price drop to zero if they can't keep their viewership numbers up. They certainly won't be able to walk into renewal and be able to use their affiliation to get more money.

DISH still carries WFFT 55 ... in SD and HD ... and they would not be doing that if their contract had expired. If they are carried as a "must carry" station (doubtful for a major affiliate) that status would continue beyond the loss of affiliation. That would be their biggest leverage in the future - an existing law that protects local stations.

If WFFT is "consent to carry" (likely) I could see that price drop to zero if they can't keep their viewership numbers up. They certainly won't be able to walk into renewal and be able to use their affiliation to get more money.

Its been mentioned elsewhere that those with Direct TV who do see 33.2 My Fox Fort Wayne lost 55 at the same time they gained 33.2. Supposedly that is going to change soon if it hasn't already.

DISH still carries WFFT 55 ... in SD and HD ... and they would not be doing that if their contract had expired. If they are carried as a "must carry" station (doubtful for a major affiliate) that status would continue beyond the loss of affiliation. That would be their biggest leverage in the future - an existing law that protects local stations.

If WFFT is "consent to carry" (likely) I could see that price drop to zero if they can't keep their viewership numbers up. They certainly won't be able to walk into renewal and be able to use their affiliation to get more money.

Derp derp, you're right, it was Nexstar/FOX that allowed their contract to expire. It was like a year I thought.

Is W20DG-D (RF ch. 20), Fort Wayne, on the air? I'm receiving a signal I've never seen before with the antenna aimed directly toward Fort Wayne. If it's not this station, I'm puzzled as to what I'm seeing. Thanks.

Steve
Indy

RESCANNED TWICE Nothing.Using a triax type digi-343 aerial on roof top. Can pick up Wbgu And Wtlw from the rear with constant signal but nothing new for now. we need Me-TV HERE REAL BAD.

Well, instead of waiting and wondering, I just decided to switch to DirecTV. It's been a long time coming, and with this being the second time Dish and a FW local affiliate get into a pissing contest that costs the viewers, enough is enough.

Plus that Sunday Ticket for free deal is pretty sweet.

Well, instead of waiting and wondering, I just decided to switch to DirecTV. It's been a long time coming, and with this being the second time Dish and a FW local affiliate get into a pissing contest that costs the viewers, enough is enough.

Plus that Sunday Ticket for free deal is pretty sweet.

Not that you care, but, you aren't receiving 55 at all now, correct?

Not that you care, but, you aren't receiving 55 at all now, correct?

Well, direct isn't being installed until Saturday. As far as Dish goes, I still seem to have access to 55.

Well, direct isn't being installed until Saturday. As far as Dish goes, I still seem to have access to 55.

Yes, but there have been comments around that although Direct has the Fox network they also dropped channel 55 when they added the network's new location.

Yes, but there have been comments around that although Direct has the Fox network they also dropped channel 55 when they added the network's new location.

Not just comments, but facts.

On August 1st, Channel 55 (now known as WFFT-Local) was dropped from the DirecTV local channel lineup. Channel 34, MyFox-Fort Wayne, was added to the DirecTV local channel lineup, carrying FOX programming.

Current local channels available to all DirecTV subscribers (with current/active packages) are:

14 CW
15 CBS
21 ABC
33 NBC
34 FOX
39 PBS

DirecTV customers with older HD equipment with built-in OTA capabilities (H20, HR20) would have access to all of the digital OTA channels with proper setup. That would include 55-1, WFFT-Local.

It is rumored that WFFT-Local will re-launch to the DirecTV local lineup in October after the debut of the new 24/7 HD WFFT-local. Nothing in stone, still just a rumor.

Good Luck!!

Yes, but there have been comments around that although Direct has the Fox network they also dropped channel 55 when they added the network's new location.

Yep, you are correct. I checked at a friends house, he no longer has WFFT.

Not just comments, but facts.

On August 1st, Channel 55 (now known as WFFT-Local) was dropped from the DirecTV local channel lineup. Channel 34, MyFox-Fort Wayne, was added to the DirecTV local channel lineup, carrying FOX programming.

Current local channels available to all DirecTV subscribers (with current/active packages) are:

14 CW
15 CBS
21 ABC
33 NBC
34 FOX
39 PBS

DirecTV customers with older HD equipment with built-in OTA capabilities (H20, HR20) would have access to all of the digital OTA channels with proper setup. That would include 55-1, WFFT-Local.

It is rumored that WFFT-Local will re-launch to the DirecTV local lineup in October after the debut of the new 24/7 HD WFFT-local. Nothing in stone, still just a rumor.

Good Luck!!

So newer Direct equipment doesn't have OTA capability? I love that my Dish receivers do and the digital channels are integrated into my guide.

Well, direct isn't being installed until Saturday. As far as Dish goes, I still seem to have access to 55.DISH's contract with 55 continues ... getting a new contract with 33 to also carry the new Fort Wayne Fox is the issue.

So newer Direct equipment doesn't have OTA capability? I love that my Dish receivers do and the digital channels are integrated into my guide.The newer DISH and DirecTV receivers have separated their OTA into an add on module. The difference being the DISH receiver's OTA module slides in the back and the DirecTV's add on module is external. DISH's module can receive two OTA channels at the same time (and both can be recorded) as opposed to the single tuner on receivers with built in OTA.

...with the SD uplink remaining to serve customers without HD equipment).

What a ridiculous waste of bandwidth. Can't a SD box just downconvert the HD signal like my cheap little OTA digital converter does. It seems an inefficient use of precious bandwidth.

Also, what's the latest on WFFT-DT OTA? Can barely get a blip here in Auburn. Doesn't sound like I'm missing much, though.

What a ridiculous waste of bandwidth. Can't a SD box just downconvert the HD signal like my cheap little OTA digital converter does. It seems an inefficient use of precious bandwidth.

Also, what's the latest on WFFT-DT OTA? Can barely get a blip here in Auburn. Doesn't sound like I'm missing much, though.

Apparently, there are still tons of old dish boxes that can't decode MP4 streams, so they still need to put it through in SD for those boxes.

Apparently, there are still tons of old dish boxes that can't decode MP4 streams, so they still need to put it through in SD for those boxes.

Well in the long run it might be more economical to replace those old boxes. I guess they've crunched that equation though.

Apparently, there are still tons of old dish boxes that can't decode MP4 streams, so they still need to put it through in SD for those boxes.And keep that a small "d" dish box. MP4 in HD receivers for both satellite carriers is common, SD receivers are stuck in MP2 due to the cost of the decoder chips.

Over the next two years big "D" Dish will be replacing its SD boxes with newer models so they can put more SD channels on each transponder and free up space for HD but the move is still not to MP4. This next move is to 8PSK on transponders instead of QPSK. The SD signals will still be MP2. It is cheaper to replace QPSK/MP2 boxes with 8PSK/MP2 boxes than 8PSK/MP4 boxes. Hopefully in the conversion customers will be convinced to do paid upgrades to 8PSK/MP4 for HD.


And yes, the $40 ATSC tuner can tune MP2 HD signals and display them on a SD set ... but that is what the converter boxes were designed to do. Ask one of those $40 boxes to tune MP4 or display a Mobile TV signal and you'll find that they are limited.

Anyone with any inside info on how it goes getting My Fox Fort Wayne on Dish Network?

Anyone with any inside info on how it goes getting My Fox Fort Wayne on Dish Network?

Latest on getting My Fox Fort Wayne 33-2 up on Dish Network, per Dish-
We have offered several proposals based on fair local market rates that would have immediately resolved this dispute. These proposals are fair and consistent with the thousands of other contracts we’ve successfully negotiated with local broadcast stations. We will continue to attempt negotiations with Granite Broadcasting and are hopeful we will be able to reach a fair deal soon.

Latest on getting My Fox Fort Wayne 33-2 up on Dish Network, per Dish-
We have offered several proposals based on fair local market rates that would have immediately resolved this dispute. These proposals are fair and consistent with the thousands of other contracts we’ve successfully negotiated with local broadcast stations. We will continue to attempt negotiations with Granite Broadcasting and are hopeful we will be able to reach a fair deal soon.

Greedy. Ridiculous.

Not that there's much I can do, but this will certainly prevent me from doing anything to support Granite in the future. It's too bad that they can't just negotiate like adults and work something out.

Justs' FYI, Directv has WFFT in HD.

I believes it was gone for a bit.

Justs' FYI, Directv has WFFT in HD.

I believes it was gone for a bit.

Yes. Looks like WFFT-Local was added to the DirecTV LiL lineup today.

Current local channels available to all DirecTV subscribers (with current/active packages) are:

14 CW
15 CBS
21 ABC
33 NBC
34 FOX
39 PBS
55 WFFT-Local

Good Luck!!

Anyone know what's up with WANE's 15-2 sub? Color bars for the past 2 days.

Anyone know what's up with WANE's 15-2 sub? Color bars for the past 2 days.

A new service will be placed here sometime in the near future.

A new service will be placed here sometime in the near future.

Is it Bounce TV, by any chance?

- Trip

Watching WFFT college football game... almost looks like some sort of analog HD. It's like the red channel trails the rest of the picture. All kinds of ghosting, looks horrible.

Well someone must have noticed as the issue seems to be sorted for now.

A new service will be placed here sometime in the near future.

Yeah. Any hints? I just hope it's not another lame service that's just there to create avails for spots. Put something cool up there and people will watch the programs... and the commercials too in some cases. :-)

Sorry guys, no hints from me. I'm sure something will announced shortly....

I sure hope that it's an "oldies" TV station. Cool-TV will not be missed by ANYONE! Do it right this time LIN!!!!

What's the time frame here for when the new station is up and running on 15.2?

With reference to 2 above comments:

Finstei: you'd be surprised. I'm not saying it was a poplular service but we have had many phone calls asking for it to return.

Trev: I don't have a time frame as of yet. It won't take long to fire up a new service.

With reference to 2 above comments:

Finstei: you'd be surprised. I'm not saying it was a poplular service but we have had many phone calls asking for it to return.

Trev: I don't have a time frame as of yet. It won't take long to fire up a new service.

Assuming an agreement expired and the powers that be just hadn't decided what they were going to do going forward. Somewhat unusual I would think in this day and age and in this business, short of planning to turn a subchannel off, to be sitting there broadcasting color bars versus some possible money making programming for this length of time-or ANY length of time.

What message does 15-2 need? Antenna tv would be good or Me-tv would be better. Boy's put your blackberries down for a minute and quit texting your pals and listen to a starving market here for decent broadcasting programs. How many more weather radar channels are needed that burn their static images on our tv screens?

At 10:50 on Face the Nation, during the Chaney interview, 15-1 started beating on Mr. Chaney's image. Political or technical?

At 10:50 on Face the Nation, during the Chaney interview, 15-1 started beating on Mr. Chaney's image. Political or technical?

Happening right now during Colts game.

Happening right now during Colts game.

FYI, I'm getting that issue OTA and through my Directv box.

About to make me throw up! Had to change the channel...audio is working fine though, FYI.

Working again.

Part of me wants to vomit: other part of me says this brings back memories from years ago.

As you can tell, since it happened again during the Colts game, it wasn't political when it happened during Face the Nation. :)

We had not 1 but 2 devices partially fail during Face the Nation. Sadly by the time it took me to drive in during Face the Nation it cleared itself up and I couldn't find it. As luck would have it, I stayed at the station until the Colts kicked off and headed for home and made it 10 minutes from the station and it popped off again.

We found the intial problem quickly and bypassed it but didin't find problem number 2 until we replaced problem 1.

We think we have it whipped right now. Sorry the game looked awful in spots (and that isn't referencing the Colts in any way!)

Shouldn't 15.2 have had a new programming planned before they pulled the plug on cool-tv for advertising sake? is anything even lined up and set in stone?

Shouldn't 15.2 have had a new programming planned before they pulled the plug on cool-tv for advertising sake? is anything even lined up and set in stone?

The contract might have not allowed it. If the contract with CoolTV expired, then they would be required to yank it, even if the replacement service isn't ready to go yet.

Any word on the Dish - MyFox negotiations?

One benefit of the dispute/delay is that it got me to hook up an OTA antenna to my Dish receiver. On Monday I was able to flip between football and baseball on the Dish, while recording House OTA. Sweet!

Is anyone else having audio problems on Fox? The surround speakers are outputting the same thing as the center channel but there is a slight delay. It's really distracting and makes it hard to follow what people are saying.

3 changes seen 10/13/11 at 4:21pm ET (v12)

Channels Now Available
5276 WEVVD (45 HD Local) EVANSVILLE, IN (FOX) 77° TP 30 HD Evansville, IN market Hidden – AVAILABLE
7370 WEVVD (45 Local) EVANSVILLE, IN (FOX) 110° 25s14 (NW Tennessee) SD Evansville, IN market Hidden – AVAILABLE
7439 WISED (56 Local) FORT WAYNE, IN (FOX) 110° 20s13 (South Michigan) SD Fort Wayne, IN market Hidden – AVAILABLE

I hope HD is coming at some point. If not, the antenna stays!

I hope HD is coming at some point. If not, the antenna stays!

Amen, for those w/o antennas, hope so too. Mine is staying forever.

I know I'll be the only one on the board saying it, but man do I miss The Cool TV. They had a random mix of music that you can't find on the radio, and I don't have a computer out near the kitchen to listen to online streams.

Do we have any idea yet when something might be on 15-2?

I know I'll be the only one on the board saying it, but man do I miss The Cool TV. They had a random mix of music that you can't find on the radio, and I don't have a computer out near the kitchen to listen to online streams.

Do we have any idea yet when something might be on 15-2?

Maybe they're trying to sell it to Granite?

HD uplinked yesterday:

5264(56) - WISED [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam A12 (Mkt:Ft. Wayne, IN-Fort Wayne, IN-N/A) (NA)

And apparently now available:

5264(56) - WISED [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam A12 changed to Available (H) (Mkt:Ft. Wayne, IN-Fort Wayne, IN-N/A)

anyone else have problems with MyFox last night during the World Series Saturday night? My signal had intermittent dropouts all throughout the game. The only lasted a split-second, but it was annoying to say the least. I switched between antenna and satellite, but the problem was there on both sides.

anyone else have problems with MyFox last night during the World Series Saturday night? My signal had intermittent dropouts all throughout the game. The only lasted a split-second, but it was annoying to say the least. I switched between antenna and satellite, but the problem was there on both sides.

Seeing it right now during FOX NFL Sunday. Can't believe its gone on that long without someone noticing it and fixing it. I'll send a message here to the engineer and see if we hear from him.

We are aware of the issue and trying to track it down.

trying to watch the World Series on My Fox is just painful. The signal is not as good as it used to be when it was on channel 55. It kind of passes for HD, but not very good HD. If I look close enough, it looks just a little fuzzy. Certainly not clear HD!!!

trying to watch the World Series on My Fox is just painful. The signal is not as good as it used to be when it was on channel 55. It kind of passes for HD, but not very good HD. If I look close enough, it looks just a little fuzzy. Certainly not clear HD!!!

Dual HD does not look good at all. Is it both channels (NBC & Fox),or just one of them (NBC or Fox)? in Chicago WLS-TV 7.2 is the one that looks horrible while 7.1 looks ok (both are 720p HD). WYIN in Gary overall looks horrible because they have older CODEC's, & they're running dual 720p HD on 56.1 & 56.2, plus run 2 widescreen SD channels.

We are aware of the issue and trying to track it down.

Any update on what you found?

Problem appears to be fixed.

Thanks for your hard work at WPTA/WISE, and especially thanks for taking your personal time to post in this forum.

Good Luck!!

Any update on what you found?

Problem appears to be fixed.

Thanks for your hard work at WPTA/WISE, and especially thanks for taking your personal time to post in this forum.

Good Luck!!

We changed out an encoder. We have been having trouble with the encoders that we use on the FOX feeds. Hopefully this will permantly correct the issue.

An announcement will be forthcoming shortly about 15.2. Couple details had to be ironed out non-engineering wise. Thanks for your patience.

Jeff,
Audio from WXJ-58 on 15.3 has been noisy most of the day. All 3 of my WX receivers are receiving good audio. You may want to check your RX, feed or antenna. Jim

We changed out an encoder. We have been having trouble with the encoders that we use on the FOX feeds. Hopefully this will permantly correct the issue.

Pixellization seen on FOX 34 during the 4:15 NFL game over the DirecTV channel 34 feed. Switched to OTA and saw no issues.

Pixellization seen on channel 33 WISE feed on DirecTV tonight during NFL pregame. No pixellization on the OTA Feed.

Good Luck!!

Pixellization seen on FOX 34 during the 4:15 NFL game over the DirecTV channel 34 feed. Switched to OTA and saw no issues.

Pixellization seen on channel 33 WISE feed on DirecTV tonight during NFL pregame. No pixellization on the OTA Feed.

Good Luck!!
We are aware of this and have already been in contact with DirecTV. This is unrelated to the issue we had last week. DirecTV has told us that they are working on this issue.

Jeff,
Audio from WXJ-58 on 15.3 has been noisy most of the day. All 3 of my WX receivers are receiving good audio. You may want to check your RX, feed or antenna. Jim

Thanks Jim. We are wiring in our new EAS system and the NOAA cable got loose. Static should be gone at this point.

trying to watch the World Series on My Fox is just painful. The signal is not as good as it used to be when it was on channel 55. It kind of passes for HD, but not very good HD. If I look close enough, it looks just a little fuzzy. Certainly not clear HD!!!

Is this the way Fox HD on 33.2 looks all the time now that it has to share the same bandwidth with NBC HD on 33.1?

I'm currently watching and comparing PQ from WISE and WFWA here in Indy (94 miles) on a 60" HDTV. I noticed that 33.1 is still 1080i and 33.2 is 720p. And I just realized that WFWA's HD on 39.1 is still 1080i while also feeding three subchannels. Other area PBS stations with 2-3 subchannels, like WFYI-Indy, WTIU-Bloomington and WIPB-Muncie have all switched to 720p. At the moment, WISE and WFWA are not broadcasting any HD programming so I can't compare what a true HD broadcast looks like. Thanks.

Steve

Guess we could blame the time change, or maybe sun spot cycle 24.
Local Fort Wayne stations got weekend problems from something.
ABC & NBC appear to be missing Program Title, details and their EPG.
CBS seems to have the clock stuck in DST. Talk about equal opportunity for problems . . .

Guess we could blame the time change, or maybe sun spot cycle 24.
Local Fort Wayne stations got weekend problems from something.
ABC & NBC appear to be missing Program Title, details and their EPG.
CBS seems to have the clock stuck in DST. Talk about equal opportunity for problems . . .

Check it again Jim. We have to manually change it over on our multiplexers. It should be good now.

Major audio drops on 33 tonight during Parks and Rec/Office. Through direcTV. 15 is fine..

We are aware of this and have already been in contact with DirecTV. This is unrelated to the issue we had last week. DirecTV has told us that they are working on this issue.

Still having issues with DirecTV's feeds of 33 (mainly) and 34. Video freezing on "live" TV, audio is fine. DVR recorded TV is the opposite, video is flawless and audio is glitchy. Issue is limited to only a few model number receivers HR24, H24, and H25.

This is the exact issue we were experiencing in early September with WPTA feeds over DirecTV.

Are you still in touch with DirecTV?

Good Luck!!

Still having issues with DirecTV's feeds of 33 (mainly) and 34. Video freezing on "live" TV, audio is fine. DVR recorded TV is the opposite, video is flawless and audio is glitchy. Issue is limited to only a few model number receivers HR24, H24, and H25.

This is the exact issue we were experiencing in early September with WPTA feeds over DirecTV.

Are you still in touch with DirecTV?

Good Luck!!


Ditto!!

Well, those NTSC bars on 15.2 will be gone soon.
AntennaTV has announced WANE will be adding their program content effective on 12/26.
The content includes 60s - 80s shows like: Adam 12, All in the family, The Nanny,
Dragnet and Maude. Their website is antenna.tv to see what else.
Good addition.

http://www.antennatv.tv/

Boy, I've been waiting for this announcement! WANE really hit the ball "out of the park" in making this decision! Now, if we could get Me-TV on one of the other subchannels (such as that utterly awful Channel 55), we'd be in as good a shape as Chicagoans with regard to TV choice.

this is awesome news! it also will broadcast some cubs and white sox games!!

this is awesome news! it also will broadcast some cubs and white sox games!!

Antenna TV only shows classic sitcoms & movies. If any sportscasts are shown on 15.2, then WANE-TV will pre-empt Antenna TV programming for the sportscasts. They just have to be careful about how much they pre-empt Antenna TV programming. Too much of it could cause WANE-TV to lose their affiliation. They can understand if another station might own the rights to a certain show, & must replace it with something else. Pre-empting too much of the schedule just to show something else might not go too well with Tribune. Weigel Broadcast (owners of MeTV & This TV with MGM) has turned down affiliates because some potential affiliates wanted to pre-empt too much of the programming, just to fill certain hours (overnight hours especially) with infomercials, & neither network carry infomercials. MeTV & This TV must keep most of the schedule intact. Antenna TV, MeTV, & This TV in Chicago all have the full schedule intact, because the respective owners of the networks carry them on their stations (Tribune's Antenna TV on WGN-TV 9.2 & Weigel Broadcasting with This TV on WCIU 26.5 & MeTV on both WWME-LD 23.1 & WCIU 26.3).

this is awesome news! it also will broadcast some cubs and white sox games!!
I didn't know that Antenna TV broadcasts include some Cubs and White Sox. Is that true everywhere they have Antenna TV?

Something going haywire with 33-1 last few minutes during the Buble special.

Antenna TV only shows classic sitcoms & movies. If any sportscasts are shown on 15.2, then WANE-TV will pre-empt Antenna TV programming for the sportscasts. They just have to be careful about how much they pre-empt Antenna TV programming. Too much of it could cause WANE-TV to lose their affiliation. They can understand if another station might own the rights to a certain show, & must replace it with something else. Pre-empting too much of the schedule just to show something else might not go too well with Tribune. Weigel Broadcast (owners of MeTV & This TV with MGM) has turned down affiliates because some potential affiliates wanted to pre-empt too much of the programming, just to fill certain hours (overnight hours especially) with infomercials, & neither network carry infomercials. MeTV & This TV must keep most of the schedule intact. Antenna TV, MeTV, & This TV in Chicago all have the full schedule intact, because the respective owners of the networks carry them on their stations (Tribune's Antenna TV on WGN-TV 9.2 & Weigel Broadcasting with This TV on WCIU 26.5 & MeTV on both WWME-LD 23.1 & WCIU 26.3).

I'm not privy to the particulars of the contract, but the baseball games were part of it. I don't know if its available to all Antenna TV stations or not, but it seems like a good fit given our proximity to Chicago.

We are almost all done wiring it up and looking forward to some testing of the stream shortly.

I'm not privy to the particulars of the contract, but the baseball games were part of it. I don't know if its available to all Antenna TV stations or not, but it seems like a good fit given our proximity to Chicago.

We are almost all done wiring it up and looking forward to some testing of the stream shortly.

Unless your station worked out a deal with Tribune Company on airing certain sportscasts on the subchannel, then it's not part of the Antenna TV broadcast. Those sportscasts will come from the WGN-TV side instead. In Chicago, if WGN-TV can't air one of the sportscasts that they have the rights to (usually due to CW programming commitments), then they have WCIU (Weigel Broadcasting) show it instead, & usually on the HD channel. Since WCIU is independent, they're free to air whatever they want on WCIU 26.1 & 26.2 (U Too). Since Weigel in Chicago is completely independent on the main channel & 1 subchannel, they don't need to interrupt the network feeds of MeTV, This TV (both they program themselves), or interrupt Bounce (the only network they don't program themselves), though Bounce is on WWME-LD 23.2, & not on WCIU. They have MeToo, but that's only for Chicago.

Unless your station worked out a deal with Tribune Company on airing certain sportscasts on the subchannel, then it's not part of the Antenna TV broadcast. Those sportscasts will come from the WGN-TV side instead. In Chicago, if WGN-TV can't air one of the sportscasts that they have the rights to (usually due to CW programming commitments), then they have WCIU (Weigel Broadcasting) show it instead, & usually on the HD channel. Since WCIU is independent, they're free to air whatever they want on WCIU 26.1 & 26.2 (U Too). Since Weigel in Chicago is completely independent on the main channel & 1 subchannel, they don't need to interrupt the network feeds of MeTV, This TV (both they program themselves), or interrupt Bounce (the only network they don't program themselves), though Bounce is on WWME-LD 23.2, & not on WCIU. They have MeToo, but that's only for Chicago.

Not trying to debate you on what channel does what. I just know that there will be several baseball games available to us that will air on that channel. Who it comes from or why from my desk doesn't matter. As long as its on the air thats all I worry about.

Can't wait to lose the color bars. We finished up the wiring needed here today and have been watching offline. Excited to see the product launch in a few weeks.

It took you people long enough to pick something decent to air. I do enjoy watching Me-Tv but antenna tv is a great choice . Thanks for considering children who watch television and need something more than ear buds plugged into their heads and violent video games into their little peepers. This brings back the days of our RCA 21 inch color roundie tv set. Which is still working. And the aroma of warm vacuum tubes in a real wood cabinet.Thanks again channel 15 for that flash back.

Seems like PBS is having issues this afternoon- lots of dropped audio frames and video breakup.

Anyone else? Or is it just my equipment?

Final program testing was done on Antenna TV today. You may have even noticed it was on the air a while today if you were channel surfing. The launch for this service is 5 AM on December 26th!

Thanks so much to WANE for adding Antenna TV. This is where 90% of my TV viewing will be! If there's anyone on here from WANE, please forward my thanks for putting nostalgia TV and great classic movies on to Fort Wayne TV.

Now, if 55 would add another station like Me-TV, I would re-program 55 into my TV -- right now, there's absolutely NOTHING (including their crappy newscast) on 55 worth watching.

Again, thanks to WANE for having the foresight to put on appealling programming for baby-boomers (enjoying Dennis the Menace right now)!

My wife and I finished watching Father Knows best. Did not even notice it was a B/w program. When it was over she said that was refreshing. You call it antenna- t.v. Were going to call it refreshing t.v. Thanks again for wholesome clean television shows.

Hey I have Direct TV with over the air antenna feed into HR-21. When I rescan my local on air TV stations, it will not pick up the new 15-2 station. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks MMike

MMike. The channel will not appear until it's registered with the Tribune (?) guide company. D* boxes do not scan for available channels but enable the channels when they appear in the guide provider's database.

I will pass along the reviews of Antenna TV to those who decide such matters. Glad to see it getting some good early reviews.
Its still a work in progress so bear with us as we iron out the final kinks. We lost the sat signal for a while down in Indy due to the weather today and still are working on our local backup system here.

Hey I have Direct TV with over the air antenna feed into HR-21. When I rescan my local on air TV stations, it will not pick up the new 15-2 station. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks MMike

Hey thanks Tom for the info. I hope they get 15-2 registered quickly, so it will show up on Direct TV local station guide. MMike

My wife and I are also enjoying Antenna TV! Any chance the listings will show up on TV Guide On Screen any time soon?

The 33 video glitches are back on DirecTV. Emailed INC, no response yet. This is getting really frustrating.

DirecTV has been contacted again. They are aware of the issue.

DirecTV has been contacted again. They are aware of the issue.

Thanks! What is the issue?

Something with their RF system at their receive site.

DirecTV has said that they have corrected the issue as of today.

Question for DirecTV subscribers....

How do you like the new HD user interface?

Is anyone else noticing a problem with the 5.1 audio on 15-1 OTA?

It's not constant, but at times, it sounds like the sound is coming through a tin can. I really notice it during commercials, particularly today during the "Man on a Ledge" movie commercial.

I only ask about the broadcast audio because I haven't noticed any issues on any other channels or while watching blu-rays.

*EDIT: Also noticed it on the 1&1.com commercial. But the following commercial was a Sprint iPhone commercial, and it sounded fine.

Is anyone else noticing a problem with the 5.1 audio on 15-1 OTA?

It's not constant, but at times, it sounds like the sound is coming through a tin can. I really notice it during commercials, particularly today during the "Man on a Ledge" movie commercial.

I only ask about the broadcast audio because I haven't noticed any issues on any other channels or while watching blu-rays.

*EDIT: Also noticed it on the 1&1.com commercial. But the following commercial was a Sprint iPhone commercial, and it sounded fine.

Will check into it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Will check into it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

And a big thanks to you and all the guys there for all of the hard work you do. I appreciate the response.

DirecTV has said that they have corrected the issue as of today.

I have been having audio/video issues with 33 on DTV for some time now. Lately its just been video related. I thought it might be due to dish pointing or wind but after ruling those out I searched the web. Glad to see Im not the only one having these issues but sad at the same time because I had video freezes just this evening. Audio was fine. So it would seem to me the problem has not been completely fixed. Anyone else still having problems?

Note: DTV receivers are HR24-100s, video glitches happen on both.

Question for DirecTV subscribers....

How do you like the new HD user interface?
Love it. I dont notice any major performance differences but the interface looks so much more modern and sleek.

I have been having audio/video issues with 33 on DTV for some time now. Lately its just been video related. I thought it might be due to dish pointing or wind but after ruling those out I searched the web. Glad to see Im not the only one having these issues but sad at the same time because I had video freezes just this evening. Audio was fine. So it would seem to me the problem has not been completely fixed. Anyone else still having problems?

Note: DTV receivers are HR24-100s, video glitches happen on both.

Yes, DirecTV/WISE is still experiencing this issue on specific DirecTV model receivers. I can assure you that everyone in the Ft Wayne, IN DMA is experiencing the same issues on HR24, H24, and H25 model receivers.

If you are a DirecTV customer and are experiencing an issue with WISE video glitches, please be sure to voice your concerns within this thread as well filling out the linked form and sending to DirecTV.

http://support.directv.com/app/ask

ENGjas

Can you provide any updates? What and When have you heard from DirecTV?

9 days til SuperBowl Sunday.

Good Luck!!

Yes, DirecTV/WISE is still experiencing this issue on specific DirecTV model receivers. I can assure you that everyone in the Ft Wayne, IN DMA is experiencing the same issues on HR24, H24, and H25 model receivers.

If you are a DirecTV customer and are experiencing an issue with WISE video glitches, please be sure to voice your concerns within this thread as well filling out the linked form and sending to DirecTV.

http://support.directv.com/app/ask

ENGjas

Can you provide any updates? What and When have you heard from DirecTV?

9 days til SuperBowl Sunday.

Good Luck!!

I called them and got the obligatory "the broadcaster is aware."

Very worried about the Super Bowl! This issue has been going off and on for months now..

Yes, DirecTV/WISE is still experiencing this issue on specific DirecTV model receivers. I can assure you that everyone in the Ft Wayne, IN DMA is experiencing the same issues on HR24, H24, and H25 model receivers.

If you are a DirecTV customer and are experiencing an issue with WISE video glitches, please be sure to voice your concerns within this thread as well filling out the linked form and sending to DirecTV.

http://support.directv.com/app/ask

ENGjas

Can you provide any updates? What and When have you heard from DirecTV?

9 days til SuperBowl Sunday.

Good Luck!!
DirecTV thought they had corrected the issue. They are still working on it. Hopefully it will be resolved once and for all this week!!

DirecTV thought they had corrected the issue. They are still working on it. Hopefully it will be resolved once and for all this week!!

Thanks for the update

DirecTV thought they had corrected the issue. They are still working on it. Hopefully it will be resolved once and for all this week!!

Your optimism is refreshing.

What progress/changes have been made or are planned for this week?

Thanks In Advance.

Your optimism is refreshing.

What progress/changes have been made or are planned for this week?

Thanks In Advance.
I believe that the issue may be resolved. Please let me know if you continue to see issues. It has been clean since 4:00pm Monday. There were some changes made then. It appeared to be an issue with how the DirecTV receivers are decoding the WISE signal regarding bandwidth.

I believe that the issue may be resolved. Please let me know if you continue to see issues. It has been clean since 4:00pm Monday. There were some changes made then. It appeared to be an issue with how the DirecTV receivers are decoding the WISE signal regarding bandwidth.

most definately not fixed. I monitored WISE broadcasts from 5:30 pm til 7:00 pm on Monday on an H24-200 (one of the affected models) receiver. The Doctors and INCNews at 6 were terrible. Nightly news at 6:30 was not as bad.

Tonight, Tuesday, the Nightly News @ 6:30 is freezing frequently and is unwatchable.

most definately not fixed. I monitored WISE broadcasts from 5:30 pm til 7:00 pm on Monday on an H24-200 (one of the affected models) receiver. The Doctors and INCNews at 6 were terrible. Nightly news at 6:30 was not as bad.

Tonight, Tuesday, the Nightly News @ 6:30 is freezing frequently and is unwatchable.

You may want to call DirecTV. We have three different models that were having problems before the changes. Now they are all solid. I would have to look at the models that we have, I can't remember what they are. I know one is a H20 model.

You may want to call DirecTV. We have three different models that were having problems before the changes. Now they are all solid. I would have to look at the models that we have, I can't remember what they are. I know one is a H20 model.

What changes were made?

Dr. Phil was unwatchable.

Please check your PMs.

One of our engineers has the same model as you and has confirmed the problem is still with that model. We will inform DirecTV that they still have a issue.

One of our engineers has the same model as you and has confirmed the problem is still with that model. We will inform DirecTV that they still have a issue.

The 5:00 AM INC News Today broadcast was unwatchable. Video froze more often that it was fluid.

The 5:00 AM INC News Today broadcast was unwatchable. Video froze more often that it was fluid.

DirecTV switched to their backup reciever, See it that corrected your issue.

Thanks!

DirecTV switched to their backup reciever, See it that corrected your issue.

Thanks!

Do you have a time when that happened?

I will not be able to monitor first hand until this evening.

Good Luck!!

Sometime around 2:00pm I believe.

DirecTV switched to their backup reciever, See it that corrected your issue.

Thanks!

I can confirm that Channel 33 has clean audio and video across all model lines of DirecTV receivers.

Thanks for your hard work. And especially thanks for your updates in this thread.

Cudos to ENGjas for saving the Super Bowl!!

Good Luck!!

For the last couple of days at least, WANE 15.1 (But NOT 15.2 !!) has been missing show info in the data stream. It is blank.
This is messing up my MythTV recording schedules. Can someone please fix this?

Thanks.

This is messing up my MythTV recording schedules.

you should consider a Schedules Direct subscription. Well worth to $10 or $20 a year (can't remember which).

For the last couple of days at least, WANE 15.1 (But NOT 15.2 !!) has been missing show info in the data stream. It is blank.
This is messing up my MythTV recording schedules. Can someone please fix this?

Thanks.

PSIP computer has croaked. A new one is on its way in.

For the last couple of days at least, WANE 15.1 (But NOT 15.2 !!) has been missing show info in the data stream. It is blank.
This is messing up my MythTV recording schedules. Can someone please fix this?

Thanks.

Got it fixed late this afternoon. Also now have dynamic information available for Antenna TV as well.

you should consider a Schedules Direct subscription. Well worth to $10 or $20 a year (can't remember which).

$25 annual now, well worth it for me.

Is there any more info on 15-2 listings on my DISH VIP722 through an OTA antenna? I'm not sure why I'm not getting any listings info, but I understand the provider has to send them down, it doesn't just come through the usual PSIP routs as it does OTA.

Also, WANE always sounds like it's coming through a tin can. That's nothing new here. Most of the net and syndicated shows I've seen on WANE seem to have had that problem for a long time. Doesn't matter which TV I watch it through, it always seems to sound that way during said programming.

BTW, I'm not trying to hammer on you, jckrac. Just noting my observation. Thanks.

Is there any more info on 15-2 listings on my DISH VIP722 through an OTA antenna? I'm not sure why I'm not getting any listings info, but I understand the provider has to send them down, it doesn't just come through the usual PSIP routs as it does OTA.

Also, WANE always sounds like it's coming through a tin can. That's nothing new here. Most of the net and syndicated shows I've seen on WANE seem to have had that problem for a long time. Doesn't matter which TV I watch it through, it always seems to sound that way during said programming.

BTW, I'm not trying to hammer on you, jckrac. Just noting my observation. Thanks.

Observations always welcome. That is part of the reason I monitor this forum.

As far as the "tin can" sound: Its a regular visitor on 60 Minutes and so far I have yet to figure out why. And its usually only present when there is a voice over. I haven't heard it regularly anywhere outside that show but will listen closer to see if I can hear what you are describing.

As far as the EPG on Dish, the way its described to me is that the listing company sends it to Dish and Dish takes it from there. We've contacted both sides and both sides point the finger at the other. Looks like I'll have to ping both again.

As far as the "tin can" sound: Its a regular visitor on 60 Minutes and so far I have yet to figure out why. And its usually only present when there is a voice over. I haven't heard it regularly anywhere outside that show but will listen closer to see if I can hear what you are describing.

I don't watch Letterman much anymore, but I used to hear it a lot on that show, especially noticeable during applause. I've heard it on quite a few of the other CBS programs too. I'll try and let you know what and when then next time I notice it.

I thought originally that it was one of those simulated surround settings on my TV, but I have three different sets, all different manufacturers and they all do it, only on WANE.

As far as the EPG on Dish, the way its described to me is that the listing company sends it to Dish and Dish takes it from there. We've contacted both sides and both sides point the finger at the other. Looks like I'll have to ping both again.

That would be awesome, if you could. I would watch/DVR a lot of those cool old shows on Antenna TV, but the lack of guide data kinda messes up that idea, especially where the DVR is concerned.

Anyway, thank you for the reply. It's far less frustrating to have a concerned ear when an issue comes along.

The time reported on the guide and program information screens hasn't changed to DST for WANE 15-1, 15-2, & 15-3. Other Fort Wayne area OTA channels are reporting the correct time. I'm using a Zenith DTT900 converter.

editted - Monday Mar. 12: Looks like it's been fixed. The time shown for WANE channels 15-1, 15-2, & 15-3 is now correct.

Anyone having trouble with WFFT Channel 55 OTA? Signal here in Huntington down in the 50s and losing it.

Anyone having trouble with WFFT Channel 55 OTA? Signal here in Huntington down in the 50s and losing it.

Nothing here this morning either.

They went to their backup transmitter at 9.15pm yesterday. Not sure what the exact issue, they just wrote their main transmitter went down..

WFFT appears to be back at full power. With a little tropo enhancement this morning, it's being received @ 94 miles.

Schedules direct would need an always on internet connection, like cable etc. All that is a mile away and not likely to get any closer for some time. There is nothing wrong with the OTA data stream (OK, show ID number so I could reject re-runs would be nice) and it works about all the time.

Got it fixed late this afternoon. Also now have dynamic information available for Antenna TV as well.

Thanks for the fix and addition. The data stream is very important for my system. I have 4 tuners and an extensive rule set for recording shows.

The other problem I have with the data stream is that it is always messed up at daylight savings time change. I am assuming that the data does not get changed to match the time right away, leaving some shows that do not get recorded until the data matches the actual show times.

As far as schedules direct mentioned by others, I used to use it some back when it was free, but it was a pain to do so with dial up internet. You have to manually connect and be there to make sure for the data to get updated. I do not have access to any form of always on internet except perhaps satellite (Hughes based) and that would be horribly expensive and not very good internet still.
It would be nicer if the OTA data stream had episode versions (schedules direct did) so at my option the reruns could be skipped. But I'll take what I can get.

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you should consider a Schedules Direct subscription. Well worth to $10 or $20 a year (can't remember which).

$25 annual now, well worth it for me.

As I mentioned in another reply, I do not have or can get always on internet. So Schedules Direct just doesn't work for me.

it is much faster and i like it. Except most of Chicago locals are not included on sub channel line ups. In that area now removing some systems and rescanning OTA Tv sets and much more is offered with an antenna. I must note that i made a mistake by installing a high band VHF and a separate UHF aerial. The now have low band digital transmissions . A normal UHF/VHf antenna would have worked better. What a fickle broadcast spectrum we have!

Is WANE TV ever gonna upgrade and start boardcasting there news in HD?? I'll have to say WFFT's 10pm NEws is the best looking picture quality, fort wayne has to offer......

Aren't we in the Digital age now? why keep boardcasting in a 4:3 picture???

Is WANE TV ever gonna upgrade and start boardcasting there news in HD?? I'll have to say WFFT's 10pm NEws is the best looking picture quality, fort wayne has to offer......

Aren't we in the Digital age now? why keep boardcasting in a 4:3 picture???

It's even worse when they show footage from their sister stations that was shot in 16:9, then they squish it for 4:3... ie. all colts footage, anything else from Indy.

Seeing issues this weekend with signal dropout over-the-air with channel 33.

Jeff,
15.3 WX RX has had only 10 - 15 dBQ for a while. Can you check?

Seeing issues this weekend with signal dropout over-the-air with channel 33.

Same today during Saturday Today.

Same today during Saturday Today.

Saw today on subchannel 33-2 and on 56 on Dish during Nascar. Something is getting ready to blow.