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moyekj

11-18-07, 01:17 AM

So am I to understand the NEW HD lineup that Cox has been talking about and showcasing on their website is also going to be available to us Tivo users or is that wishful thinking ? I'm afraid the news doesn't appear to be good for us Tivo owners. Over in Tivo forums a couple of Cox OC users have reportedly talked to supervisors and were told that there will be no new HD channels for CableCard customers from this point out (in preparation for SDV). So if this turns out to be true at least until/if dongle every materializes what you have now is all you will get with Cox. Here's 1 post from a guy in Laguna Niguel:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5699035#post5699035
It turns out that the HD channels Cox S3 customers have now are all they're gonna get. According to Cox tech support, and a supervisor I was transferred to, S3 (cable card) customers will not be receiving any of the new channels to be broadly launched on Dec. 17, nor any added thereafter. The supervisor informed me that SDV support is required to get any additional channels, and that cable card S3's would not be compatible. When I complained about not being notified in any way of these limitations, she tried to float the notion that it's not only the cable card that is incompatible, but also the S3 and my displays -- that's when we parted company (I hung up the phone).

In any case, the HD channels I cannot get now, even though I live in Laguna Niguel, are CNN HD, Discovery HD, NFL Network HD, TLC HD, History HD and Animal Planet HD. And I assume I won't be watching HDNet or HDNet Movies on Dec. 17... :mad:
It doesn't bother me too much about that particular set of channels (I would probably not watch any of them anyway). What I am really afraid of is if channels that we already have start being taken away... Also I was looking forward to having SciFi & USA HD at some point in the future...

Seems only fair that if this is really the case that there is going to have to be a lower rate structure for people using CableCards seeing as they can't get all the channels in the digital tier. If that doesn't happen and things start getting bad I will probably just cancel digital service completely and maybe just go with limited basic or even just cancel cable completely and go OTA only.

But for now it's wait and see... hopefully Cox OC understands what they are doing and will limit SDV to channels that actually make most economical sense to be there - the least popular ones. Otherwise SDV gives them no benefit and in fact alienates all CableCard customers for no good reason.

fenwayfan

11-18-07, 02:45 PM

But for now it's wait and see... hopefully Cox OC understands what they are doing and will limit SDV to channels that actually make most economical sense to be there - the least popular ones. Otherwise SDV gives them no benefit and in fact alienates all CableCard customers for no good reason.

I'm in the same boat with you guys, being owner of 3 Sony DVRs with Cablecard. I do have now the 1st batch of the new HD channels (FSNHD, A&E HD etc..) that are still not available to everybody. I guess that I won't be getting the new ones that will be available on Dec 17.

Eric

macinfosys

11-18-07, 03:40 PM

Ok, I just did some checking and my Tivo HD's are showing 714, 721, 724, 739, 754, 762, 763, 772 and 781 with Full channel guide but when I tune to that station, it says "Channel not available". So does this mean when these channels become available to me in my area I should be able to get them on the Tivo's ?

But on the flip side I am not showing 729, 756, 757, 792 and 793 at all on the Tivo's. and I am assuming these are going to be the SDV based HD channels ?

Also NONE of the listed channels above on either paragraph are showing up on my Cox HD DVR but I am assuming none of it has been pushed to my unit since they should not be available anyways because of my area.

One last note: I am currently getting 713, 767 and 790 on my Tivo's w/ full channel guide and content. But none of which are still available on my Cox HD DVR.

Any clarification on my listings above would be great. I am assuming since Ladara, Newport, Laguna and Aliso and a few other local neighborhoods have all of these channels already, I am hoping anyone with Tivo HD's could possibly comment on if my assumptions are correct.

Thanks in advance.

moyekj

11-18-07, 04:33 PM

In my case the current situation for newer HD channels with my Tivos and my current understanding:
Full guide data & tunes fine:
713,724,727,763,767,781,790,791

Guide data but can't tune (CableCard customers will not be getting these):
714,721,739,754,762,772
No guide data and can't tune (CableCard customers will not be getting these):
729,756,757,792,793

macinfosys

11-18-07, 05:35 PM

In my case the current situation for newer HD channels with my Tivos and my current understanding:
Full guide data & tunes fine:
713,727,763,767,790,791

Guide data but can't tune (CableCard customers will not be getting these):
714,721,724,739,754,762,772,781

No guide data and can't tune (CableCard customers will not be getting these):
729,756,757,792,793

WOW !!

Thats too bad then. Out of 15 NEW HD channels, 6 of which I would love to watch in HD will not be available on the new Tivo's.

I have been reading that the Tuner resolver should be available before a widespread roll out of SDV. So what do they consider wide spread ? When ALL HD channels are on SDV ? That could be another 6 months to a year and I have been reading other providers like TWC have already moved towards a LOT MORE SDV usage than Cox and there is no news on when the device would be available for TWC users. Too bad there really is no real clear time table and who this solution is going to be available from. :confused:

I really hate to go back to the Cox HD DVR's. I have gone through 9 boxes in the last year alone either from excessive fan noise to flat out no functionality. And even when the hardware works, they have software issues in regards to volume cut out's, picture freezing or no picture and you have to change channels to get things back and if you have a live show rewinded you basically loose what you had rewinded to gain audio or video back. That doesn't even cover how limited their show recording options are especially in regards to the amount of space available with no possible expansion.

:mad:

rwb1921

11-18-07, 05:44 PM

doug_p

11-18-07, 06:48 PM

I really hate to go back to the Cox HD DVR's. I have gone through 9 boxes in the last year alone either from excessive fan noise to flat out no functionality. And even when the hardware works, they have software issues in regards to volume cut out's, picture freezing or no picture and you have to change channels to get things back and if you have a live show rewinded you basically loose what you had rewinded to gain audio or video back. That doesn't even cover how limited their show recording options are especially in regards to the amount of space available with no possible expansion.

:mad:Well, I took the crappy DVR that the RSM office gave me the other day and returned it to the Quail Hill office, and they set me up with a brand new, never used, DCH3416. Not sure what the difference between it and my other DCT3416 is, but so far in the few days that I've had it there have been none of the problems you describe. But it's early......

AMRivlin

11-18-07, 07:43 PM

Kind of Irksome, Irvine has seen none of the upgrades, I would think infastructure updates here would be easier than anywhere else given layout and no hills.

I fear December will pass us by (1 month to turn us on COX, don't forget)

macinfosys

11-19-07, 12:38 AM

Well, I took the crappy DVR that the RSM office gave me the other day and returned it to the Quail Hill office, and they set me up with a brand new, never used, DCH3416. Not sure what the difference between it and my other DCT3416 is, but so far in the few days that I've had it there have been none of the problems you describe. But it's early......

I still have a single DCT3416 and I will take mine to exchange it for the new box also next week. Curious, is the menu and functionality identical to the DCT3416 ? Also does it have Cable Cards installed, can it take an extrenal SATA storage for expansion ? Any faster in response? I know you have not had it for too long so if you have no clue, I would understand. ;)

I still would love to use the Tivo's for the additional features BUT I am starting to think Tivo may not be the best solution going forward if there are more and more SDV channels being brought out with no REAL time table for a solution.

BTW, is this it ?

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/motorolas-dch3416-m-card-enabled-hd-dvr/

AMRivlin

11-19-07, 02:23 AM

that is the look, unsure about the "M Card" I have 1 6412 and 1 3416, neither have had any issues. Software is the same. Only differences are 6 series is Analog and Digital, 3 series is Digital only, and 12=120gig, 16=160gig.

34 runs cooler due to digital only, better design / airflow.

tjstoddard

11-19-07, 10:02 AM

I still have a single DCT3416 and I will take mine to exchange it for the new box also next week. Curious, is the menu and functionality identical to the DCT3416 ? Also does it have Cable Cards installed, can it take an extrenal SATA storage for expansion ? Any faster in response? I know you have not had it for too long so if you have no clue, I would understand. ;)

I still would love to use the Tivo's for the additional features BUT I am starting to think Tivo may not be the best solution going forward if there are more and more SDV channels being brought out with no REAL time table for a solution.

BTW, is this it ?

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/motorolas-dch3416-m-card-enabled-hd-dvr/

I traded my DCT's in for DCH's about a month or two ago and when I asked what was the difference, I was told it was the same box except that it had cable card functionality built in. Menu and Functionality are identical, sata port cannot be used. seems to be just as fast/slow.

doug_p

11-19-07, 04:08 PM

I haven't noticed any difference between the DCT and DCH, which is why I wondered about it in my last post. The DCH is lighter and sleeker, for what that's worth.

rwb1921

11-19-07, 11:15 PM

I traded my DCT's in for DCH's about a month or two ago and when I asked what was the difference, I was told it was the same box except that it had cable card functionality built in. Menu and Functionality are identical, sata port cannot be used. seems to be just as fast/slow.

Anyone know what the difference in the DCT 6416 III box is? That is the one I have now. Is it old? How does it compare to the others that are out there?

Thanks,

Bob

MJCS

11-19-07, 11:33 PM

616 has dvi output while the 416 has HDMI

rwb1921

11-20-07, 09:05 AM

AMRivlin

11-20-07, 10:38 AM

nocturne1

11-20-07, 11:23 AM

Anyone else get the letter in the mail about CableModem upgrade?

Highlights:
Free upgrade
New Security/Speed
8-10 weeks to ship
www.cox.com/ocpv/modemswap/

Now if I could only convince them to give me 6 months free of Digital Phone service, backed by the best fiber in the land!
Haven't gotten it, but it looks like they're trying to migrate people to DOCSIS 2.0 capable modems. Depending on the manufacturer/model/chipset, some existing devices might not be upgradeable.

If they're offering it, ya might as well take it. Odds are, if it were to stop working in the future, they'd probably replace it for free as well.

JETninja

11-20-07, 12:16 PM

Well, I guess have to stop complaining for a while now. I woke up this morning (Tuesday) and checked the TV and now have the following new HD channels:

713 KCOP HD
714 CNN HD
721 Disc HD
727 TBS HD
739 NFL HD
754 TLC HD
763 FSN HD (the one I really wanted!!!)
767 A&E HD
772 Animal Planet HD
790 National Geographic HD

Also have available but do not subscribe:

724 Cinemax HD
781 Starz HD

From what I have seen advertised by Cox, seem to be missing only the new HDNET channels (HD Net and HD Movies, by 12/17?) and Food Network, HGTV and History HD. I can wait for those, hopefully also by 12/17.

Nice Thanksgiving gift from Cox. Did not have to reboot, channels just showed up. I did not check Monday, did not get a chance to check TV so maybe there yesterday???.

Bob

Nope, they were not there yesterday. I too got them this morning. Wondering where the HD Net channels are though.....

Thanks Cox, better late the never.

AMRivlin

11-20-07, 12:27 PM

Odds are, if it were to stop working in the future, they'd probably replace it for free as well.

2 months ago, when it looked like the Cable Modem (4 years old?) had died, they wanted 250 to replace it. Um, ok Ill take this free one.

I wonder why they don't turn on the Modems in the DVRs and save modems from people who have the Set Top Boxes.

tjstoddard

11-20-07, 01:42 PM

Anyone else get the letter in the mail about CableModem upgrade?

Highlights:
Free upgrade
New Security/Speed
8-10 weeks to ship
www.cox.com/ocpv/modemswap/

Now if I could only convince them to give me 6 months free of Digital Phone service, backed by the best fiber in the land!

Yes I got this on August 6th and replied to get my free one, it came as advertised about 6-8 weeks later, which was sometime last month. The new one is much smaller and works well. I had a Linksys which was docsis 1.1 compatible and techs said the 2.0 improvements won't come till sometime next year. I did however notice a couple of MB's improvement, or it could have been just a coincidence. Just curious, do you subscribe to the basic internet or enhanced speed? I have the enhanced one.

JETninja

11-20-07, 01:42 PM

Anyone else get the letter in the mail about CableModem upgrade?

Highlights:
Free upgrade
New Security/Speed
8-10 weeks to ship
www.cox.com/ocpv/modemswap/

Nope, but then I ditched theirs many years ago since they were charging $5 a month for it. Picked up my own and its paid for itself years ago.....

rwb1921

11-20-07, 02:27 PM

Nope, but then I ditched theirs many years ago since they were charging $5 a month for it. Picked up my own and its paid for itself years ago.....

That's what I did also, but I paid up front and when it died, just picked up my own. Saved a lot of money over the years.

AMRivlin

11-20-07, 02:57 PM

i dont think I lease the modem, I think it was "free" or has been paid off. We pay 41.95 for 7mb internet.

humdinger70

11-20-07, 03:52 PM

Well, I guess have to stop complaining for a while now. I woke up this morning (Tuesday) and checked the TV and now have the following new HD channels:

713 KCOP HD
714 CNN HD
721 Disc HD
727 TBS HD
739 NFL HD
754 TLC HD
763 FSN HD (the one I really wanted!!!)
767 A&E HD
772 Animal Planet HD
790 National Geographic HD

Also have available but do not subscribe:

724 Cinemax HD
781 Starz HD

From what I have seen advertised by Cox, seem to be missing only the new HDNET channels (HD Net and HD Movies, by 12/17?) and Food Network, HGTV and History HD. I can wait for those, hopefully also by 12/17.

Nice Thanksgiving gift from Cox. Did not have to reboot, channels just showed up. I did not check Monday, did not get a chance to check TV so maybe there yesterday???.

Bob

Oh great....

With you getting more channels (including NFL HD) and the San Diego Cox getting more channels (http://www.cox.com/sandiego/whatsnew/20071119-newhd.asp), a squeeze play has now been put on San Diego residents who are on Time-Warner.

OC and SD Cox viewers get to see NFL network games, while SD TWC viewers are SOL! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

chomanfoo

11-20-07, 05:34 PM

Oh great....

With you getting more channels (including NFL HD) and the San Diego Cox getting more channels (http://www.cox.com/sandiego/whatsnew/20071119-newhd.asp), a squeeze play has now been put on San Diego residents who are on Time-Warner.

OC and SD Cox viewers get to see NFL network games, while SD TWC viewers are SOL! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Im sorry to hear that, the good news for us Cox OC customers is that hopefully the Cox SD lineup will be like looking into the future, and we hopefully will get those channels early next year.

On another note, has anyone heard anything about new boxes with more storage coming (Tivo)?

doug_p

11-20-07, 08:06 PM

Well, I guess have to stop complaining for a while now. I woke up this morning (Tuesday) and checked the TV and now have the following new HD channels:

713 KCOP HD
714 CNN HD
721 Disc HD
727 TBS HD
739 NFL HD
754 TLC HD
763 FSN HD (the one I really wanted!!!)
767 A&E HD
772 Animal Planet HD
790 National Geographic HD

Also have available but do not subscribe:

724 Cinemax HD
781 Starz HD

From what I have seen advertised by Cox, seem to be missing only the new HDNET channels (HD Net and HD Movies, by 12/17?) and Food Network, HGTV and History HD. I can wait for those, hopefully also by 12/17.

Nice Thanksgiving gift from Cox. Did not have to reboot, channels just showed up. I did not check Monday, did not get a chance to check TV so maybe there yesterday???.

BobI went running for my TV and checked just now when I first saw this post and also JETninga's and I still have no new channels! Damn. What part of Mission Viejo are you guys located? I'm near Felipe/Barbadanes.

rwb1921

11-20-07, 08:41 PM

I went running for my TV and checked just now when I first saw this post and also JETninga's and I still have no new channels! Damn. What part of Mission Viejo are you guys located? I'm near Felipe/Barbadanes.

I am near LaPaz and Felipe/Olympiad. Not too far from where you are (just across Oso). I would have figured you would have also. So it is node by node, hopefully your node is next. No pattern to roll out as I see it. Has to be soon I would think for you.

AMRivlin

11-20-07, 08:56 PM

Versus, Travel, and NHL HD are in SD,

but we have History HD and the HD Nets, which SD does not. For once OC has a premium lineup. If it ever gets turned on :)

Of note however, SD's On Demand is HD. I would actually use OnDemand if it was HD.

I am so happy they finally added channel 810. Well worth the bandwidth and my time!!! The guide description is funny.

TheRock

11-20-07, 09:03 PM

New channels are up for me also. Very nice surprise. I subscribe to Starz and Cinemax but both give me a subscription screen when I try to view there HD channels. I might need to call Cox to get them "enabled". I will try and report back what channels are protected by 5c and which ones are recordable through firewire.

scottvan

11-20-07, 10:56 PM

JETninja

11-21-07, 09:12 AM

I'm up inside Los Alisos / Trabuco / Alicia .......

tjstoddard

11-21-07, 03:22 PM

moyekj

11-21-07, 03:27 PM

Just got a phone call to go here to keep my hd tier and get 5 free ppv movies

www.cox.com/ocpv/yeshd

must do so by Dec 4th...

Here's what the form said:

Please fill out the form below. By selecting "Yes" to "Keep the HD Tier" you will be confirmed to receive the HD Tier which will launch with HDNet, HDNet Movies, and HD Theater on December 17th. Your bill will not increase.
What is not mentioned anywhere is if CableCard customers will be able to receive these channels. Obviously I don't want to pay for them if I can't tune them anyway...

moyekj

11-21-07, 03:43 PM

What is not mentioned anywhere is if CableCard customers will be able to receive these channels. Obviously I don't want to pay for them if I can't tune them anyway... A CSR just confirmed that indeed for CableCard customers whatever you have now for HD channels is all you are going to get going forwards, so that means HDNET, HDNET movies will not be available to me anyway, so I will be dropping the $5/month HD Tier.
The CSR also read an email related to CableCard customers she received a couple of weeks ago stating that at least the current plan means HD channels that you do currently receive will not be dropped from your lineup, so at least that is good news as most of the HD channels I care about I already have and so hopefully won't be losing them in the future...

moyekj

11-26-07, 01:05 PM

JETninja

11-26-07, 02:52 PM

Well thats cool! I cant imagine a Cable Co not doing it, though the word needs to get out to CC users,

Was just at TitanTV (not been there in a long while) and saw they already have all the channel mapping for all the just released and soon to be HD offerings for my area, very interesting.

I went there to verify if us with the NFL channel get Thursdays Game - Packers @ Cowboys. (We do!) A whole lot of pissed off America does not get to view the game.

schmitter

11-27-07, 08:35 AM

I know my living room is filling up with friends and family that don't get NFL. They better bring beer.

bubu

11-27-07, 02:10 PM

moyekj,

All S3 owner prayers appear to have been answered! Now lets hope that COX is going to offer these things as soon as they become available

rdsport323

11-27-07, 04:14 PM

I was watching Heroes last night and my picture kept freezing for a few seconds, where there was no audio and you can see pixels on and off. It was quite annoying... does anyone know what's causing it? and how to fix it? It's happening more and more frequently to the point that its making it unwatchable.

This is happening on both my DVR unit and a regular digital cable box, both DCH models.

mattym

11-27-07, 05:36 PM

skatensx

11-27-07, 06:56 PM

i have the same issue all the time, most recently a few nights ago when recording a show on mojo, the whole recording was ruined from freezing

MJCS

11-27-07, 10:21 PM

turning on and then off the box (power button) usually fixes it

moyekj

11-28-07, 01:27 AM

I've seen several glitches lately too, especially on FSNHD during Lakers games. Perhaps related to the ongoing node upgrades...

rwb1921

11-28-07, 02:51 PM

I'm getting them also. Hopefully just a little bump in the road.......

xcrappy

11-28-07, 04:04 PM

Still no channels in Tustin yet...

AMRivlin

11-28-07, 05:02 PM

nada in Irvine.

scottvan

11-29-07, 03:57 AM

nor in RSM.

twarren

11-29-07, 11:46 AM

GREAT news for CableCard Tivo users. Tivo & NCTA jointly announced a solution that will enable CableCard Tivos to tune Switched Digital Video channels. Estimated availability of the solution is 2nd quarter 2008 (i.e. before July 2008):
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/11-26-2007/0004711019&EDATE=#linktopagebottom
NOTE: The solution needs to be offered by cable operators (not Tivo), so subject to if/when they will be offering it.

is it possible that they have started SDV in some areas? The reason I ask is that, in the past when I did a frequency scan on my digital tuner (attached to Mac computer) I would get basically all of the QAM frequencies as listed in your spreadsheet. Most of them were not "tunable" (would just get encrypted signal message from tuner). However I recently did a new scan (last weekend for the first time in about 6 weeks) and get a much smaller set which included the local channels, the radio station channels, the local government and COX preview channels and about 10 -12 others that were encrypted. My tuner hardware/software hasn't changed in that timeframe, so this seemed a bit strange.

moyekj

11-29-07, 01:34 PM

is it possible that they have started SDV in some areas? The reason I ask is that, in the past when I did a frequency scan on my digital tuner (attached to Mac computer) I would get basically all of the QAM frequencies as listed in your spreadsheet. Most of them were not "tunable" (would just get encrypted signal message from tuner). However I recently did a new scan (last weekend for the first time in about 6 weeks) and get a much smaller set which included the local channels, the radio station channels, the local government and COX preview channels and about 10 -12 others that were encrypted. My tuner hardware/software hasn't changed in that timeframe, so this seemed a bit strange. I don't believe SDV is online yet. From what CSRs have said, SDV channels will be limited to any channels additions from here on out but not existing channels - and I haven't lost any channels on my Tivos yet as far as I know which would have been the case should many older channels have been put under SDV already. I haven't done an extensive analysis recently, however some things have changed on a few RF channels (the MLB RF channel and I think number of channels devoted to VOD has been reduced), but nothing widespread from what I could tell. Note that the newer channels are all going at frequencies > 750MHz so your tuner needs to scan at least to RF channel 126 or so to find everything.

AMRivlin

11-29-07, 08:24 PM

Anyone getting NFL HD?

So, not sure if this was noted, will the new HD channels require a box to view, or with they be viewable with an ATSC Tuner?

xcrappy

11-30-07, 01:14 AM

Anyone else get artifacts/discolorations during the laker game tonight on TNT-HD?

TNT desperately needs a new production crew. You always miss important parts of the game because they are too busy zooming in on celebrities or people you've never heard of. Then they make the game all small and show stats that nobody really cares about. To top it all off, they choose the worst camera angles possible, like from the sideline, top of the basket, or top of the court. You cant tell who is where or what the heck is going on!!

Sorry I needed to vent there...

Dr. Shrinker

11-30-07, 01:26 AM

Anyone getting NFL HD?

So, not sure if this was noted, will the new HD channels require a box to view, or with they be viewable with an ATSC Tuner?

I was told by a Cox rep that "they have mailed out" announcements to everyone that a box will be required for the new HD channels. The CableCards that will work with the new system won't be available until sometime next year.

I received no such announcement, and I haven't seen anyone here on the boards mentioning it...

AMRivlin

11-30-07, 01:49 AM

that is fine, i guess i was looking to see what channels would work on an atsc tuner without a card or box.

I have 2 boxes, but did not want to have to get a 3rd, and 100' of HDMI isnt worth it either.

Thanks Doc.

moyekj

11-30-07, 02:41 AM

Anyone else get artifacts/discolorations during the laker game tonight on TNT-HD? Most definitely!! That was HORRIBLE. For a moment I thought something bad had happened to my TV, but tuning other channels was fine. I really only watch that channel for NBA games and I've been disappointed with it lately. Don't know where Cox OC gets the TNTHD feed from but it sure looks like a crappy 1080i HDLite satellite feed to me... Yuck!

Also FSNHD has been breaking up lately during Lakers games as well. KCALHD is the only decent one for Lakers games lately. Hope these issues get cleared up.

moyekj

11-30-07, 02:47 AM

I was told by a Cox rep that "they have mailed out" announcements to everyone that a box will be required for the new HD channels. The CableCards that will work with the new system won't be available until sometime next year.

I received no such announcement, and I haven't seen anyone here on the boards mentioning it... It has been discussed quite a bit lately if you scroll back a page or so. For example:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12281399#post12281399
A CSR just confirmed that indeed for CableCard customers whatever you have now for HD channels is all you are going to get going forwards, so that means HDNET, HDNET movies will not be available to me anyway, so I will be dropping the $5/month HD Tier.
The CSR also read an email related to CableCard customers she received a couple of weeks ago stating that at least the current plan means HD channels that you do currently receive will not be dropped from your lineup, so at least that is good news as most of the HD channels I care about I already have and so hopefully won't be losing them in the future...
That followed by good news for Tivo users that a solution for tuning SDV channels will be released by July 2008 or so. Also recently Tivo in their earnings conference call mentioned the plan is for cable companies to offer the USB SDV "tuning resolver" for free to Tivo customers (though a truck roll will be necessary for them to install them).

JohnCalif

11-30-07, 08:32 AM

I have extended basic cable and the only HD channels I get are the ones sent in "the clear" but I have noticed the video quality does not seem as good as it used to be. It's almost as if the streams have been re-encoded. Also, my hour long MythTV recordings for 720p range from 4 to 5 GB and the 1080i recordings from CBS or NBC are 6 to 7 GB. Has anyone else noticed reduced video quality?

omega800

11-30-07, 01:15 PM

Cox Sucks!!! They took the NFL HD channel off the air for the game last night.

jlstang95

11-30-07, 04:20 PM

I was watching the games last night on NFL Network HD. No problems here. :)

moyekj

12-01-07, 01:55 AM

Lakers game tonight on 709 wasn't that great either - I switched over to the OTA 9-1 feed instead and though there was a slight improvement it was still filled with artifacting...

Dr. Shrinker

12-01-07, 03:57 PM

It has been discussed quite a bit lately if you scroll back a page or so. For example:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12281399#post12281399

Sorry, poorly worded -- I meant I hadn't seen anyone discuss receiving any formal announcement from Cox. I know that poster had heard from a CSR, but mine told me we had all been notified by mail.

Oh well, I finally capitulated and got a box. Clutters up my family room a little more, but now I get NFL HD. Worth the trade, I guess...

AMRivlin

12-01-07, 09:31 PM

moyekj

12-01-07, 10:01 PM

GRRRRR. So I went to Sand Canyon and got an additional HD Box (Non DVR). The Menu looks ****** on my 46" but I can live.

What I can't live with is none of my channels are authorized for viewing, and now I have to wait until MONDAY?! Is there a way to get the box authorized before Monday? No problem - call tech support and they will send a "hit" to your box - at least that's how it used to work for me even on a Sunday.

AMRivlin

12-01-07, 11:03 PM

last rep said there was nothing he could do, ill have to try.

AMRivlin

12-02-07, 03:23 AM

Update!!!! New Hd Channels Active In Irvine, Asked For A Hit Per Box.

Channels Missing: Hdnet Hd Movies Foodhd Hgtvhd

Wow, Finally, Thanks Everyone At Cox!

skatensx

12-02-07, 08:39 AM

Update!!!! New Hd Channels Active In Irvine, Asked For A Hit Per Box.

Channels Missing: Hdnet Hd Movies Foodhd Hgtvhd

Wow, Finally, Thanks Everyone At Cox!

where in irvine are you? maybe ill give that a try

AMRivlin

12-02-07, 12:45 PM

I am in 92606, (Irvine Center Drive and Harvard)

My other TVs were on when I turned them on this morning, so it looks like it is Irvine System Wide.

Worth asking for a hit either way. I was at the sales office getting a box, they mentioned it would be on for all of irvine at the latest dec 10, but looks like i wont have to wait!

I am very pleased, so much new content.

skatensx

12-02-07, 01:58 PM

im in 92602 and gave it a try, but nothing yet but a 1-2 week wait is ok with me

skatensx

12-02-07, 04:54 PM

actually i have all the channels now, sweet! after i called up and did the refresh nothing showed, but after about 3-4 hours they are showing, very nice

Adelmoxi

12-02-07, 10:36 PM

well outside of COX teritory, us TWC folk are very jealous.

Sugrat

12-03-07, 03:56 AM

I can't believe that areas that are close to the cox offices have to wait - March they have posted for Trabuco Canyon.

tjstoddard

12-03-07, 11:33 AM

OT, but has anybody here in Orange County used a good video calibrator, I just saw a link to this guy, but don't know where he is and don't know if he is competitive?

http://www.cir-engineering.com/index.php

Also will I notice a huge difference? I have a RP Mits WS65813, that's had about every board in it replaced within the last year. I view it in a very bright room with windows all around it. I don't mind spending the money if in fact it makes it look better than new, but I'd hate to spend it and end up wondering why I did so, if it doesn't look better.

Thanks!

joeracerx

12-03-07, 11:47 AM

I've used Greg Loewen. He calibrated my 56" Panasonic RP. It looks wonderful.

He's located on the East coast. He does tours that included SoCal. Getting a RP calibrated is a must. You will not regret it.

http://www.lionav.com/services.php

skatensx

12-03-07, 07:40 PM

I can't believe that areas that are close to the cox offices have to wait - March they have posted for Trabuco Canyon.

call technical support (611 on your cox phone) and try the automated refresh, then check back a few hours later like i did, hey worth a try

Whitearrow

12-03-07, 10:25 PM

I am in 92606, (Irvine Center Drive and Harvard)

My other TVs were on when I turned them on this morning, so it looks like it is Irvine System Wide.

Not so much. I live less than 1/2 mile from you -- Harvard and Walnut -- and no joy here. I did the automated reset on the phone.

I should see the new channels in the guide, and/or just be able to tune them?

skatensx

12-04-07, 12:10 AM

mine just showed up about 3 hours after my reset, could be a coincidence, but so close to the reset so i have to think it had something to do with it

Sugrat

12-04-07, 12:16 PM

call technical support (611 on your cox phone) and try the automated refresh, then check back a few hours later like i did, hey worth a try

Is that any different from doing the automated / power button on the front refresh? because i've tried and nothing has come.

I'm finding more and more, when i get home from work, that my box is powered down but when i turn it on, still no new channels :-(

chomanfoo

12-04-07, 12:18 PM

Is that any different from doing the automated / power button on the front refresh? because i've tried and nothing has come.

I'm finding more and more, when i get home from work, that my box is powered down but when i turn it on, still no new channels :-(

I'm in 92606 as well, (Deerfield and Harvard) and I tried 2 refreshes with no results...

skatensx

12-04-07, 12:38 PM

AMRivlin

12-04-07, 02:45 PM

Call and ask a rep for a "Hit" if they ask why, say for the new channels. It should take 2 min. And about 1-2 if the new channels are available.

Whitearrow

12-04-07, 03:59 PM

Is asking a rep for a hit any different than an automated refresh?

The channels should show up for everybody, right? Most people don't even know about the new channels...

chomanfoo

12-04-07, 04:05 PM

Is asking a rep for a hit any different than an automated refresh?

The channels should show up for everybody, right? Most people don't even know about the new channels...

I just called and asked for a hit, and the lady on the phone had to check a bunch of stuff like signal strength and if I had been upgraded. She said it should work now. I can't check until i get home from work, but I think its at least worth a shot to ask for the hit, as the refreshes yesterday did nothing.

She also said when i get home, to press and hold guide until the box says "read" and then press and hold the power on the box to get the "boot" and that should give me the channels.

Hope this helps.

bigtuna

12-04-07, 05:18 PM

Update!!!! New Hd Channels Active In Irvine, Asked For A Hit Per Box.

Channels Missing: Hdnet Hd Movies Foodhd Hgtvhd

Wow, Finally, Thanks Everyone At Cox!

I am in NB..........should I be getting FoodTV, HGTV etc yet, or are those coming down the road? I get everything else (NFL NetworkHD, CNNHD).

moyekj

12-04-07, 05:40 PM

I am in NB..........should I be getting FoodTV, HGTV etc yet, or are those coming down the road? I get everything else (NFL NetworkHD, CNNHD). Those will be launched Dec 17 according to Cox (along with HDNET & HDNET Movies).

scottvan

12-04-07, 06:06 PM

nocturne1

12-04-07, 07:04 PM

I got an automated message on my cell phone today saying that I needed to select whether or not I wanted the new HD tier, and that today is the last day to pick. I'm confused because I sent in the postcard a week or so ago saying that I wanted the new tier. Did anyone else get the phone message?

I think that the right hand doesn't know what left is doing (and legs as well). First thing I got was an email, and I responded immediately. A few days later, I got a call from a person. Told them I already signed up. A few days after that, I got a postcard about it. And then about a week later, I got an automated call.

Just a waste of their money. Remember this next time our bill goes up....

chomanfoo

12-05-07, 11:36 AM

Is asking a rep for a hit any different than an automated refresh?

The channels should show up for everybody, right? Most people don't even know about the new channels...

I think the hits are different than the refreshes since the new channels showed up on my TV last night when I got home from work.

Sugrat

12-06-07, 12:45 AM

well i tried the automated refresh through the phone, but it said it failed, so i talked to someone and told him my box was acting weird (which it wasnt) and needed to be refreshed and he did it, and 3 hours later i had channels, could be coincidence but no way to know for sure

Tried that today and made no difference, even asked the woman on the phone when the channels would be coming to my area, she looked at different things but told me that I should call customer service who would have a better idea when.

Well there's no harm in trying.

AMRivlin

12-06-07, 12:08 PM

TheRock

12-06-07, 09:47 PM

Ok, I think I read this earlier, but I recently added an HD Only Box. According to their website: http://cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/pricing.asp

HD Only rental is 5.25 (Correct me if I am wrong)

Installation (Shipping) is 15.95
I picked it up instore (Sand Canyon)

Should I be expected to pay this erroneous fee, especially when I picked it up and had to call cox 3-4 times to give it a hit?

You shouldnt have to pay any sort of installation or shipping fee. Although Cox might have some sort of activation fee. I dont think they do so you shouldnt have to pay that $15.95.

AMRivlin

12-07-07, 01:09 PM

Well they removed the charge, but they pretended to be doing me a favour. Like the charge was supposed to be there, but since I am such a great customer they would help me out.

Thats crappy, but thankfully it is gone.

bigtuna

12-09-07, 11:10 AM

Every once in a while, I will be missing a HD channel. It will just be a black screen, this morning it is ESPNHD. A couple of weeks ago it was CNNHD and was out for a couple of days. All other HD channels come in fine, any ideas?

I've called Cox and they are not reporting any issues? I guess it could be the receiver (Motorola 6416 series III)? I'll try a re-boot.

BigTuna

AMRivlin

12-09-07, 11:32 AM

Does the subscribe bar come up? It could be 2 way communication at a splitter. I took out a splitter and all the channels worked again.

JETninja

12-09-07, 02:47 PM

well outside of COX teritory, us TWC folk are very jealous.

LOL! For 2 years its been the other way around. I work with two TWC buds (HB & FV) and though Cox was out of the gate sooner with HD, TWC quickly doubled the amount of channels we had! Its been a long two years coming!

bigslickak

12-09-07, 07:57 PM

twarren

12-10-07, 08:21 PM

nocturne1

12-10-07, 11:23 PM

when I turned on my tv set this afternoon (4:45pm or so) I noticed that KCOP-HD (713) is now present on the guide (but none of the other new HD channels); well, I guess its a start. I live in north Tustin area.

Speaking of which, has anyone EVER seen a single minute of HD programming on this channel? I have yet to come across anything but upscaled 4:3 SD content. Seems like a huge waste of bandwidth.....

xcrappy

12-11-07, 01:22 AM

Maybe when the Angel's season starts they will start broadcasting some away games in HD, hopefully.

MJCS

12-11-07, 02:13 AM

sports games are going to be about the only thing in HD on that channel

TheRock

12-11-07, 04:16 PM

Unfortunately KCOP went completely reality and now doesnt show anything in HD. They used to air several shows in HD. The shows were total eye candy and were mostly horrible (Saints and Sinners) but it was nice to see SOME HD offered on a regular basis. I think I heard somewhere that they offer some of there movies in HD but every time I took a look they were always SD. Whats a real shame is that the shows they did offer in HD usually looked fantastic. In fact they were possibly the best HD picture quality wise of all the networks.

On an unrelated topic... does anyone know why FSN HD doesnt just mirror there SD channel? The whole time I've had this channel I've only seen one program air. SD sucks but its 20 times better when its offered on a truly digital channel. Seems like a waste of space when 99% of the time it says "OFF AIR".

moyekj

12-11-07, 04:24 PM

On an unrelated topic... does anyone know why FSN HD doesnt just mirror there SD channel? The whole time I've had this channel I've only seen one program air. SD sucks but its 20 times better when its offered on a truly digital channel. Seems like a waste of space when 99% of the time it says "OFF AIR". Ironically of all the recent HD channel additions the FSN HD one is by far the one I have watched the most even with it's limited air time. Every Lakers game on FSN is also broadcast in HD on FSN HD and I record all Lakers games so that channel gets a fair number of hits from me. A few weeks ago there were many glitches on that channel during Lakers games but things seem to have improved lately.

jlstang95

12-11-07, 05:20 PM

I noticed that in a special HDTV buyers guide section of todays Orange County Register there was an ad from Cox. The ad mentioned the addition of 2 more HD channels, Golf Network HD and Versus HD. The more the merrier.

Whitearrow

12-11-07, 09:33 PM

The *Golf Network*? Seriously? Where are the HD versions of mainstream, basic cable channels like FX, USA, and Sci-Fi? DirectTV has all of those. Sheesh. Their priorities are seriously screwed up.

Adelmoxi

12-11-07, 11:24 PM

at leas your not in TW territory with are dismal 4 HD channels (excluding the locals, Premiums and ESPN's).

AMRivlin

12-12-07, 01:43 AM

golf and versus are one channel

Science Channel shouldn't be far behind, considering it is part of the discovery 5.

I would actually prefer On Demand HD, USA, and SciFi next.

rwb1921

12-12-07, 08:53 AM

golf and versus are one channel

Science Channel shouldn't be far behind, considering it is part of the discovery 5.

I would actually prefer On Demand HD, USA, and SciFi next.

Golf and Versus are two separate channels, I think one is 323 and the other is 334 right now in Mission Viejo.

I am also with moyekj on I seem to watch FSN-HD the most. Dominated obviously by Lakers basketball. But I watch mainly sports so that would make sense. Hopefully as another said the Angels will have some HD games on wasted KCOP-HD next year. Then I would be watching KCOP-HD a lot.

But it is nice to have a few more options with the new HD channels when using the remote. I will sometimes stop on one of the new channels to watch something occasionally because it is HD and looks great. I am not watching much SD programming now at all. Usually just in the 700 channels now. Very seldom wander back to the lower channels.

AMRivlin

12-12-07, 10:32 AM

See this link for SD's HD channels: http://cox.com/sandiego/whatsnew/20071119-newhd.asp

Cox is handling Golf and Versus in all other markets as a combo channel, I can only expect OC will be the same.

They also get, Science, Travel, NHL networks in HD, or will shortly.

rwb1921

12-12-07, 03:33 PM

rwb1921

12-12-07, 06:47 PM

Got home today and have the following HD Channels:

723 Golf/Versus
756 Food HD
792 HDNET
793 HDNETM

Still missing History Channel from announced channel additions. I think I have all the others now listed on website.

AMRivlin

12-12-07, 07:19 PM

rwb1921

12-12-07, 07:52 PM

Looking good, I get History HD in Irvine, Ill look for the others when I go home tonight. No HGTV yet?

i just cant wait for LogoTV HD. HAHA, kidding. I was flipping to G4 the other day and saw some strange lego/playmobile animation, looked a bit closer, saw Logo TV is a 100% gay channel. Wasn't expecting that.

Too funny (LogoTV HD). I have had HGTV HD for a while now. Just no History channel yet. Called Cox (I know why?) and they told me about the 6 channels I should not have yet. But of course I have 5 of the six. Oh well, happy with what I have and I am sure since you have History HD it will show up eventually here.

I double checked the Cox website (www.cox.com/ocpv) and confirmed I have all HD channels listed except History channel, and I have one not listed on site (Golf/Versus). Guess I am even then......

Whitearrow

12-12-07, 09:22 PM

I got home today and HDNet! Wheeeeeee..... watching Torchwood right now :)

No other new channels except KCOP, but I can wait!

wheeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quigs

12-12-07, 09:35 PM

Does anyone else have channel 772 (Animal Planet HD) and 727 (TBS HD) go out (Temporarily off air message)?

This happens about 2 days every week. Like right now.... both are out. Then randomly one day they'll work again.

My next door neighbor is the same way.

bigtuna

12-12-07, 10:00 PM

twarren

12-13-07, 12:36 AM

I got home today and HDNet! Wheeeeeee..... watching Torchwood right now :)

No other new channels except KCOP, but I can wait!

wheeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

same here. One thing odd on KCOP is that it is listed in the guide as a premium channel (purple background). All the other local stations aren't.

rwb1921

12-13-07, 08:44 AM

Too funny (LogoTV HD). I have had HGTV HD for a while now. Just no History channel yet. Called Cox (I know why?) and they told me about the 6 channels I should not have yet. But of course I have 5 of the six. Oh well, happy with what I have and I am sure since you have History HD it will show up eventually here.

I double checked the Cox website (www.cox.com/ocpv) and confirmed I have all HD channels listed except History channel, and I have one not listed on site (Golf/Versus). Guess I am even then......

This morning before leaving for work I was browsing the channels and now have the History Channel HD on 762. So I am now complete per the website. Cox came through before Christmas for me. Not bad. Have to give them some credit. They said by the 17th and delivered. At least for Mission Viejo. Now to see how they can keep up with Satellite over the coming year. But I am happy with the selection so far, has most of the channels I watch, though hopefully SciFi and a few others can be added soon. The more the better.

Hopefully they move up schedule for other areas of OC.

UnHeardOf

12-13-07, 12:40 PM

moyekj

12-13-07, 12:49 PM

This is an intentional thing by Cox - I'm not too surprised not all CSRs are on the same page on this. The short of it according to a Cox OC supervisor is that Cox Orange County plans to deploy Switched Digital Video (SDV) sometime early year and any of the recent HD channel additions along with any other digital (SD or HD) channel additions from here on out will be deployed under SDV. This requires set top boxes with 2 way communications (which the Tivos currently do not have), and so Cox's policy is not to allow CableCard customers to receive these channels now only to yank them away once SDV is deployed.

The good news is that Tivo and cable industry are working on a "Tuning Resolver" device which will allow Tivos to work with SDV. There are already working prototypes and Motorola has committed to having the device ready by July 2008. Then it's up to Cox to obtain these to be able to provide them to Tivo CableCard customers (supposedly it will be free of charge).

I would encourage you if you talk to Cox again to mention this "Tuning Resolver" so that they are aware of it and will be able to provide it shortly after Motorola makes it available. For all the gory details on SDV and how it relates to Tivo:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=357703

The following HD channels do not come in... and I just talked to customer service and they said they are still working on this problem issue. They didn't offer an ETA for the fix. This is frustrating for HD Tivo owners to say the least.

(Cox, San Clemente, CA)

772 APLHD

762 HISTRYHD

754 TLCHD

721 DSCHD

714 CNNHD

twarren

12-13-07, 02:23 PM

The following HD channels do not come in... and I just talked to customer service and they said they are still working on this problem issue. They didn't offer an ETA for the fix. This is frustrating for HD Tivo owners to say the least.

(Cox, San Clemente, CA)

772 APLHD

762 HISTRYHD

754 TLCHD

721 DSCHD

714 CNNHD

Just curious, are you getting the other new HD channels now? (San Clemente is listed as not getting them until mid-2008)

Also, on the cablecard limitations, if you have a combination (say one regular HD cable box and another TV with cablecard) will your HD cable box be limited as well or will it be sent the SDV channels?

moyekj

12-13-07, 04:47 PM

Also, on the cablecard limitations, if you have a combination (say one regular HD cable box and another TV with cablecard) will your HD cable box be limited as well or will it be sent the SDV channels? It looks like Cox has different channel maps for cable box vs. CableCard so it's not based on account basis but rather on an individual device basis. Thus if you have a cable box you should be getting more channels than a CableCard device. I may end up renting a Cox box for a while just to take a look at some of these newer HD channels to see if there is anything interesting, but certainly none of the recent additions sound very compelling to me. Now if/when they add SciFi and USA then I will definitely be interested - those are the only 2 missing that I think I would really care about.

joeracerx

12-13-07, 05:42 PM

Just curious, are you getting the other new HD channels now? (San Clemente is listed as not getting them until mid-2008)

Also, on the cablecard limitations, if you have a combination (say one regular HD cable box and another TV with cablecard) will your HD cable box be limited as well or will it be sent the SDV channels?

I've only seen KCOP added here in SC.

rdsport323

12-13-07, 08:59 PM

Anyone else in Irvine having trouble getting HDNet and HDNetMovies? Channels 792 and 793 both show up on my guide list, but whenever I go to those channels, I get a "Temporarily Off Air" error.

I've tried restarting the box, sending a hit, to no avail... Or is it just that those two channels aren't ready yet?

AMRivlin

12-14-07, 12:23 AM

Yea I don't get the HD Net/Movies in Irvine (Check Back Later) I figure they are waiting until Monday the 17th to spite me for wanting to go to Direct. Sorry gang!

Whitearrow

12-14-07, 01:04 PM

I'm less than a mile from you and I do have HDNet, but none of the additional channels except KCOP. This is obviously all very location-specific, possibly down to the block.

I did get the notice that I might have intermittent outages next week as they work, so hopefully that's a good sign.

twarren

12-14-07, 01:21 PM

It looks like Cox has different channel maps for cable box vs. CableCard so it's not based on account basis but rather on an individual device basis. Thus if you have a cable box you should be getting more channels than a CableCard device. I may end up renting a Cox box for a while just to take a look at some of these newer HD channels to see if there is anything interesting, but certainly none of the recent additions sound very compelling to me. Now if/when they add SciFi and USA then I will definitely be interested - those are the only 2 missing that I think I would really care about.
thanks for the feedback. I'm considering delving into the Tivo world so trying to understand the options. Currently the Tivo box would need a cable card and so would be unable to handle the newer HD channels (which I don't yet have except for KCOP and HDnet 792-793). And, based on prior posts to this thread, that might change sometime mid to end of next year?

moyekj

12-14-07, 01:34 PM

thanks for the feedback. I'm considering delving into the Tivo world so trying to understand the options. Currently the Tivo box would need a cable card and so would be unable to handle the newer HD channels (which I don't yet have except for KCOP and HDnet 792-793). And, based on prior posts to this thread, that might change sometime mid to end of next year? That's correct.

nocturne1

12-14-07, 01:50 PM

moyekj

12-14-07, 02:19 PM

FYI, I have a TiVo HD (cablecard) and I _do_ have the following new channels:
National Geographic HD, FSN HD, My13 HD (KCOP), A&E HD, Starz HD (unverified because I don't subscribe) and Cinemax HD (unverified because I don't subscribe).

I don't have the following channels yet (says coming in March 08 to Foothill Ranch):
CNN HD, Discovery HD, History HD, NFL Network HD, Animal Planet HD, TLC HD

I also don't have the HDNET channels, but of course they aren't promised for a few days.

So maybe it's that second batch that is going to be SDV? On the other hand, I thought that they were going to move some of the less popular SD digital channels to SDV to make room for the HD channels (as I've read was being done in other markets). That's right, luckily that 1st batch of HD channels including FSNHD snuck in before the decision was made for no more. Anything after that looks to be under SDV umbrella and unavailable to CableCard devices. Don't think any of the newer HD channel additions (after those) we will be getting. There are confirmed posts of people here in Mission Viejo that get channels I don't get with my Tivos, so looks like CableCard customers are being denied them and we won't be able to receive them until/if the "Tuning Resolver" is made available.

nocturne1

12-14-07, 07:32 PM

That's right, luckily that 1st batch of HD channels including FSNHD snuck in before the decision was made for no more. Anything after that looks to be under SDV umbrella and unavailable to CableCard devices. Don't think any of the newer HD channel additions (after those) we will be getting. There are confirmed posts of people here in Mission Viejo that get channels I don't get with my Tivos, so looks like CableCard customers are being denied them and we won't be able to receive them until/if the "Tuning Resolver" is made available.

FYI, in addition to the channels I previously listed, my TivoHD is now getting the 2 HDNet channels as of today. No guide data yet from Tivo though.

targetmedia

12-14-07, 10:29 PM

FYI, in addition to the channels I previously listed, my TivoHD is now getting the 2 HDNet channels as of today. No guide data yet from Tivo though.

I am in Dove Canyon/RSM-we have yet to get Gol TV here...is it coming???

Rich4av

12-14-07, 11:18 PM

Laguna Beach is last on the upgrade list in 2008 but somehow KCOP and the 2 HDNet channels popped up unexpectedly, just as I was about to consider D*TV. I do not subscribe to the HD tier so I have not watched HDNet - the channels show a subscription message. KCOP works fine.

moyekj

12-15-07, 01:20 AM

FYI, in addition to the channels I previously listed, my TivoHD is now getting the 2 HDNet channels as of today. No guide data yet from Tivo though. How about that, yes I see them now. Time to send Tivo a note about guide listings update.

nocturne1

12-15-07, 01:33 AM

How about that, yes I see them now. Time to send Tivo a note about guide listings update.

Already did tonight after my post here. :) Says that it will take a few days....

moyekj

12-15-07, 03:08 AM

If someone gets some time can you please post the frequencies of the following channels:
714
721
739
754
756
762
772
Thanks!

chiifac

12-15-07, 10:30 PM

I am in Lake Forest. So far, I have only three new HD channels:

713: 759 MHz
792: 753 MHz
793: 753 MHz

moyekj

12-16-07, 02:49 AM

Looks like Comcast is adding SciFi HD & USAHD in some areas already - now those would really be worthy additions by Cox (and hopefully not under SDV umbrella).

rdsport323

12-16-07, 07:47 AM

If someone gets some time can you please post the frequencies of the following channels:
714
721
739
754
756
762
772
Thanks!

Stupid question but, how do you find out the frequency of a channel? :)

moyekj

12-16-07, 11:45 AM

Stupid question but, how do you find out the frequency of a channel? :) A couple of ways (assuming they still work, I haven't had a Cox set top box for quite a while now):
Method 1
# Menu to display Quick Settings Menu
# Down, B, Up, B (within 5 seconds)

Method 2
# Power off, Select, Select
# d06
Look for Inband Frequency - page down to see other tuner info

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

ajwees41

12-16-07, 01:25 PM

A couple of ways (assuming they still work, I haven't had a Cox set top box for quite a while now):
Method 1
# Menu to display Quick Settings Menu
# Down, B, Up, B (within 5 seconds)

Method 2
# Power off, Select, Select
# d06
Look for Inband Frequency - page down to see other tuner info

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

the 1st method only works with the dvr boxes.

JETninja

12-16-07, 03:12 PM

If someone gets some time can you please post the frequencies of the following channels:
714 -783Mhz
721 -789
739 -759
754 -789
756 -813
762 -783
772 -807
Thanks!

Here ya go bud. Got them all, no real need for some like the "Golf" channel..LOL. HistHD is nice, been watching some stuff on it.

moyekj

12-16-07, 03:31 PM

Here ya go bud. Got them all, no real need for some like the "Golf" channel..LOL. HistHD is nice, been watching some stuff on it. Great, thanks! Got my spreadsheet updated now.

mebweglarz

12-16-07, 06:54 PM

Could just be me, but......did something happen with digital audio? I'm in Newport Beach and when getting digital audio via Cox my receiver would show audio channel breakout (ie 3/2 or 2/0). A couple of days ago the breakout doesn't show but I'm still getting an audio signal over coaxial...what's going on? The audio doesn't sound as well as it did last week....this happened a couple of days ago.....thanks

mebweglarz

12-16-07, 08:10 PM

okay, never mind. I went to cox menu and digital audio, then changed setting from linear pcm to dolby digital and got digital audio back as it used to be. Then went back to linear pcm and all is fine. My mitsubishi receiver is about 6 years old and the cox digital audio sounds better in linear pcm instead of dolby digital....don't know why (maybe antique receiver hardware or receiver does a better job of breaking out the signal than cox box) but it does.

Quigs

12-16-07, 10:31 PM

If someone gets some time can you please post the frequencies of the following channels:
714 -783Mhz
721 -789
739 -759
754 -789
756 -813
762 -783
772 -807
Thanks!

Ok, maybe someone can help me here. I have not had 727 TBS HD or 772 AP HD for over a week now.

Are they the same "frequency"? If so, why do you think those channels are not showing up for me (and my next door neighbor)? He had Cox come out on Friday and the tech told him something about a 807 frequency. But, they never fixed it for him. They said it "would show up sometime soon", but probably just BS from the tech guy.

Any ideas why these two channels just show up as "Temporarily Off the Air" for us?

Quigs

12-16-07, 10:43 PM

Well, when I check the status of the channel, it says "Acquired but not playing" and lists 727 and 772 as Ch 02, not the correct channel.

When I look at an HD channel that is working, it says "Acquired and locked". And shows the appropriate channel and frequency.

Any ideas?

bigslickak

12-17-07, 01:25 AM

Many of the newer HD channels were not working for me today, including:

CNN HD
DISC HD
FOOD HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD

and maybe some others I forgot about. Anyone else having these issues?

moyekj

12-17-07, 02:22 AM

Ok, maybe someone can help me here. I have not had 727 TBS HD or 772 AP HD for over a week now.

Are they the same "frequency"? If so, why do you think those channels are not showing up for me (and my next door neighbor)? He had Cox come out on Friday and the tech told him something about a 807 frequency. But, they never fixed it for him. They said it "would show up sometime soon", but probably just BS from the tech guy.

Any ideas why these two channels just show up as "Temporarily Off the Air" for us? Yes, both of those share the same QAM at 807 MHz. By chance do you also not get channel 756 which is at higher frequency 813 MHz? Could be Cox is still tweaking your local node and the higher frequencies are not making it through.

tjstoddard

12-17-07, 03:03 AM

Many of the newer HD channels were not working for me today, including:

CNN HD
DISC HD
FOOD HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD

and maybe some others I forgot about. Anyone else having these issues?

I noticed the same thing today, I couldn't figure out why my recordings on Discovery of Planet Earth were all black..., then noticed a bunch of channels today were not working, just got the temporarily not working screen

tjstoddard

12-17-07, 03:08 AM

OT, but just successfully did a firewire capture to pc and was able to burn to a DVD than actually plays in a DVD player. But when I played the DVD, I couldn't skip ahead or back with FFW/RW, anybody got any clues here....

I got the .ts file from CAPVHS..
Ran it thru MPEG2.exe to create an .mpg
ran that thru SVCD2DVD to create aud/video_ts folder/files
burned with imgburn

this was the first time doing this, so I'm not sure this was the best way or set of tools. any advice is welcome.

tjkaz

12-17-07, 03:47 PM

I noticed the same thing today, I couldn't figure out why my recordings on Discovery of Planet Earth were all black..., then noticed a bunch of channels today were not working, just got the temporarily not working screen
Hi,
Was anxiously awaiting the same new channels today but no dice. I'm in Irvine like a few on this thread.
Does anyone know when these channels will be available in Irvine other than the cox website "December 2007"?
Thanks!
Tom

chomanfoo

12-17-07, 04:03 PM

Hi,
Was anxiously awaiting the same new channels today but no dice. I'm in Irvine like a few on this thread.
Does anyone know when these channels will be available in Irvine other than the cox website "December 2007"?
Thanks!
Tom

I have them in 92606...

Islanti

12-17-07, 05:19 PM

I got HDNet and HDNet movies over the weekend in RSM. They're on my cable cards. Interestingly I also got TBSHD via cable card. Not CNNHD or Discovery HD (721) or some of the others, though.

Sugrat

12-17-07, 10:25 PM

Also got the two HDnet channels and 713 but nothing else in Trabuco Canyon.

scottvan

12-18-07, 08:52 AM

I got HDNet and HDNet movies over the weekend in RSM. They're on my cable cards. Interestingly I also got TBSHD via cable card. Not CNNHD or Discovery HD (721) or some of the others, though.

I'm in RSM and have had 713, HDNet and HDNet movies for a few days now, nothing else.

doug_p

12-18-07, 10:59 AM

Well at my house in Mission Viejo they added a couple of HD channels to the guide, but they don't even work, and none of the other promised ones are there. So much for Cox and their promises. But why do I supsect they will go ahead and implement the new billing scheme anyway?

Cox Communications, the experts at accurately setting customer expectations. :rolleyes:

Quigs

12-18-07, 01:28 PM

Yes, both of those share the same QAM at 807 MHz. By chance do you also not get channel 756 which is at higher frequency 813 MHz? Could be Cox is still tweaking your local node and the higher frequencies are not making it through.

Yep, I get 756 and checked the frequency and it's at 813.

So, it's definiteyl something to do with the 807 frequency for some reason.

When I check 772 and 727 frequency, they are listed as "ch 003" and at 213 frequency. It's like they are linked to Channel 3's signal. Even though nothing shows up on the tv....just black.

I have a tech guy comin out on Thursday. Not holding my breath though.

sreemv

12-18-07, 02:32 PM

At the risk of sounding redundant - do any of these cox HD channels transmitted in clear QAM - I just tried/scanned for it [in Irvine] came up completely empty!

moyekj

12-18-07, 05:24 PM

At the risk of sounding redundant - do any of these cox HD channels transmitted in clear QAM - I just tried/scanned for it [in Irvine] came up completely empty! All the HD locals (CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, CW etc) are unencrypted as required by FCC violations, and they now have proper PSIP information so should come out on their OTA channel numbers when you scan.

sikwitit

12-18-07, 07:06 PM

My service was down for about 1 hour and I was hoping that the new HD channels were going to work. nothing yet.

Tustin CA

lopcheung

12-19-07, 02:52 PM

Does Anybody in Irvine have the NFL Network (739). I pay for the HD Sports and Information and was expecting it on December 17 but the channel isn't working yet. I really wanted to watch the Cowboy game this saturday in HD.

AMRivlin

12-19-07, 03:04 PM

I have all channels including HD Net / Movies and NFL in 92606 Irvine.

lopcheung

12-19-07, 03:08 PM

I'm in 92602. I have HD NET and all the other channels but no NFL Network

newanddumb

12-19-07, 06:16 PM

moyekj

12-19-07, 08:03 PM

Can I receive any of the new HD channels without a box? I receive the extended cable from COX (Irvine) since I newly subscribed the High Speed Internet with them.
If I buy a TiVo would I be able to get those channels?
Sorry I am new and could not read all the threads. THX a lot With Tivo S3/HD and CableCards currently you will get all HD channels except the following:
NFLHD, CNNHD, HSTRYHD, DSCHD, TLCHD, APLHD, FOODHDP
Also, theoretically any new HD channel additions from here on out will not be available to CableCard customers. As you may know Tivo and cable are working on a solution to Switched Digital Video (SDV) scheduled for some time around mid 2008 so theoretically after that time Tivo S3/HD customers should be able to tune channels under SDV which presumably will include the above once Cox OC actually deploys SDV.

NOTE: Unless you subscribe to at least the minimum digital service you will only be able to tune HD local channels (CBS, NBC, ABC, etc). A couple of channels such as HDNET & HDNET movies require an additional $5/month HD tier over your digital subscription.

skatensx

12-20-07, 05:36 PM

I have all channels including HD Net / Movies and NFL in 92606 Irvine.

same, irvine 92602

skatensx

12-20-07, 05:38 PM

also i never agreed to keep hd net,hd movies, discovery and yet i still have it

lopcheung

12-20-07, 07:55 PM

Are you in West Irvine 92602? I have NFL channel but theres only a message to look at www.cox.com/oc or call some number that doesn't work.

tjkaz

12-20-07, 10:27 PM

same, irvine 92602
I'm in 92603 and still don't have ...
CNN HD
DISC HD
FOOD HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD
...but do have the other new ones mentioned and have had them for a couple of weeks. The new channels mostly play crap or some movie I/we have already seen.

AMRivlin

12-21-07, 01:55 PM

While this will not happen over night, Motorola is looking to answer the demand for more channels through MPEG-4 Compressions and eventual removal of MPEG2 equipped cable boxes.

http://connectedhome2go.com/2007/12/19/mpeg-4-mobile-tv-and-more-%e2%80%93-predictions-and-observations-from-motorola%e2%80%99s-geoff-roman/

tjkaz

12-21-07, 02:20 PM

doug_p

12-21-07, 07:46 PM

UPDATE
Got impatient and called Cox to ask when channels in question would be available. After discussion and waiting, they said that I should already have them. Transferred me to a tech and we chatted for a while while she pushed buttons, reset the cable box a couple of times, etc. Later on this morning they are ALL now showing.
Recommend to those who believe that they should call Cox.Took your advice, called Cox, and they did the same thing for me! All the new channels and the guide now are working. WooHoo! Thanks for passing the word.

By the way, the trick that did it for me was to press and hold the "guide" button on the DVR until it said "read" and then after the clock came back he had me press and hold "power" until it said "boot." Once it all came back, the new channels were there. I live in Mission Viejo, just south of Oso.

AMRivlin

12-22-07, 10:26 AM

Kinda OT, but I wanted to wish everyone in this little OC / Cox family a great holiday, enjoy your real family and friends first, then your brand new HD tv and Cox channels second.

I am actually off to Hawaii, but not looking forward to 50 SD channels of Oceanic TW, yuck.

Maybe next year some of this family can meet at a bar with HD for a game.

Cheers!

Whitearrow

12-22-07, 07:41 PM

That would be fun -- other boards have regular meetups.

scottvan

12-24-07, 01:31 AM

AMRivlin

12-24-07, 02:52 AM

BJ's Pizza in Tustin, and I think Corner Office Costa Mesa, and Champs Spectrum have HD I believe. (Muldoons, Mccormicks, and Daily Grill have HD, but u cant really watch there.)

Shocked Fox Sports Grill and Yard House's don't.

1920x1080

12-24-07, 03:56 PM

With Tivo S3/HD and CableCards currently you will get all HD channels except the following:
NFLHD, CNNHD, HSTRYHD, DSCHD, TLCHD, APLHD, FOODHDP
Also, theoretically any new HD channel additions from here on out will not be available to CableCard customers. As you may know Tivo and cable are working on a solution to Switched Digital Video (SDV) scheduled for some time around mid 2008 so theoretically after that time Tivo S3/HD customers should be able to tune channels under SDV which presumably will include the above once Cox OC actually deploys SDV.

NOTE: Unless you subscribe to at least the minimum digital service you will only be able to tune HD local channels (CBS, NBC, ABC, etc). A couple of channels such as HDNET & HDNET movies require an additional $5/month HD tier over your digital subscription.I know you follow our market very closely, so I was wondering what your interpretation of this page would be: http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/city_list.asp

They say "coming soon" to a given area at different given times and the only disclaimers at the bottom are you need an HDTV set and HD receiver rental or CableCard...

Is it possible they're going to SDV to make room for the new HD programming, but said programming will ultimately be available in the non-switched tier in a given area on the "coming soon" dates? (I see you're in a December 2007 area, so hopefully you'll have good news to report soon?) One would think the HD channels would be among the more popular channels (always "in demand"), so why not move some of the less popular channels to the switched tier? (oh no, perhaps to generate incremental revenue from the tuning resolver? :eek: that'd be nasty :mad:)

moyekj

12-24-07, 06:04 PM

I know you follow our market very closely, so I was wondering what your interpretation of this page would be: http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/city_list.asp

They say "coming soon" to a given area at different given times and the only disclaimers at the bottom are you need an HDTV set and HD receiver rental or CableCard...

Is it possible they're going to SDV to make room for the new HD programming, but said programming will ultimately be available in the non-switched tier in a given area on the "coming soon" dates? (I see you're in a December 2007 area, so hopefully you'll have good news to report soon?) One would think the HD channels would be among the more popular channels (always "in demand"), so why not move some of the less popular channels to the switched tier? (oh no, perhaps to generate incremental revenue from the tuning resolver? :eek: that'd be nasty :mad:) It seems like that wording changed a little since I last saw it, but last time I talked to a supervisor SDV was theoretically coming sometime in early 2008 and Cox OC was already reserving any new channel additions to be under SDV. 2 other markets have already started SDV deployment (Fairfax VA & Phoenix AZ) and reportedly in Tivo forums other markets such as Las Vegas like ours are not extending new HD channel additions to CableCard customers. So there seems to be some kind of corporate policy in place regarding SDV & CableCard customers. So far the channels I can't receive are no big loss so hopefully by the time SciFi HD & USA HD come about here the "tuning resolver" will be available.

irvinecox

12-25-07, 04:31 PM

Sugrat

12-26-07, 06:41 PM

Take the advice on this board! IF you want the new channels, they are probably already there! YOU MUST CALL COX and ask for a hit on your box! I now have all the new channels but none of my neighbors do! Try it.

Who did you call Tech Support or Customer Service? Plus the guide download and the boot process must only work after they have done some 'changes' on their side because it did nothing for me except lose my guide info for about 10 minutes :)

irvinecox

12-27-07, 10:46 AM

I called Cox Tech Support, got someone in Cleveland, Ohio! He sent a hit to the box twice and soon after the channels were there! Cox has some major problems with their management team, in my opinion! They have no clue what's really the reality as it applies to 'Joe Customer'! If the customer has to call to have the firmware upgraded in the box instead of Cox handling this in the background, there's a problem! Of course, Cox is always a little late to the party!

Astipe

12-27-07, 12:53 PM

moyekj

12-27-07, 01:27 PM

Hey guys,
I am new to the whole HD thing and I have a question about the new channels.

I have a HDTV and Cox Expanded Cable Service (Not Digital). I currently recieve 64 Digital and 71 Analog channels. On morning of December 17th I scanned for the new HD channels and they all showed up on my tv. I now had 70 HD channels. When I got home from work later that day, they were all gone. I rescanned, and my tv could not find them again. I have scanned every day since and they have not showed up.

My question is if the new HD channels are for customers with digital service only? or will customers with regular cable eventually recieve these new HD channels? Should I call Cox tech support?

Thanks Most of the HD channels aside from the network locals are all encrypted so without a digital set top box or CableCard you won't be able to tune them. There's no way you had 70 HD channels before since there are nowhere near that many available. Perhaps you are confusing HD with digital which covers both SD & HD channels.

Astipe

12-28-07, 02:35 AM

Most of the HD channels aside from the network locals are all encrypted so without a digital set top box or CableCard you won't be able to tune them. There's no way you had 70 HD channels before since there are nowhere near that many available. Perhaps you are confusing HD with digital which covers both SD & HD channels.

Right now my tv says that I have 64 digital channels and 71 analog channels. The 64 digital channels include all the network channels (cbs hd, nbc hd, abc hd, etc.) as well as nbc weather, abc weather, OC channel, a lot of infomercial channels, and a lot of Radio Stations. I didnt have any of these channels on any of my non HDTVs in my house.

On the morning of the 17th, I had all of the new HD Channels (CNN HD, Discovery HD, Food Network HD, etc.) My tv said that I had 70 Digital channels and 71 analog channels.

Maybe the channels were not encrypted that morning when they showed up on my tv and were then locked or encrypted by the time I got home later that day? I wish that the new channels were not encrypted and everyone can see them.:(

turbo3

12-28-07, 12:50 PM

How much did you guys pay Cox for the installation fee? They are charging me an arm and a leg. Other cable companies have free installation.

tjstoddard

12-28-07, 03:07 PM

Right now my tv says that I have 64 digital channels and 71 analog channels. The 64 digital channels include all the network channels (cbs hd, nbc hd, abc hd, etc.) as well as nbc weather, abc weather, OC channel, a lot of infomercial channels, and a lot of Radio Stations. I didnt have any of these channels on any of my non HDTVs in my house.

On the morning of the 17th, I had all of the new HD Channels (CNN HD, Discovery HD, Food Network HD, etc.) My tv said that I had 70 Digital channels and 71 analog channels.

Maybe the channels were not encrypted that morning when they showed up on my tv and were then locked or encrypted by the time I got home later that day? I wish that the new channels were not encrypted and everyone can see them.:(

All you need is a cable box or a cable card and you will get them...

moyekj

12-28-07, 03:21 PM

I wish that the new channels were not encrypted and everyone can see them.:( That's like saying I wish cable TV was free. Everyone does, but it ain't gonna happen.

moyekj

12-28-07, 03:49 PM

For those of you with Cox cable boxes are you getting correct listings on channel 763?
For example does it show Lakers game tonight (12/28) @ 7:30pm and on Sunday (12/30) at 7:00pm? Recently my Tivo listings changed channel name to PRIMEHD (used to be FSNHDWE) and now has listings for sporting events corresponding to channel 63 instead of 64 which is not right. I have already let Tivo know about the problem: Zap2it made the wrong change and that's where Tivo gets listings from, but I want to make sure Cox guide is still correct. Thanks.

bltserv

12-28-07, 04:33 PM

Some earlier posts mentioned you needed to call Cox and "Bang" the box before the new HD channels would appear. Well I called yesterday from work.
The CS girl you could tell was trained at being. "Oh we show its working fine"
"Let me check". "Call back if this does not fix it". Very scripted.

Well I got my new HD channels when I turned it on this morning. :)

Cox SUCKS.
Now if we could get rid of the yellow "Subscibe Screen":eek:

Irvine. Quail Ridge 92603.

ehong33234

12-28-07, 07:24 PM

is anyone else getting an "Off Air" message for FSN HD (channel 763) in Orange County? All of my other channels work, but this one still hasn't worked in over a week. I called Cox and the guy wasn't sure if it was a receiver problem or if the channel just isn't broadcasting yet. If he doesn't know, who the hell would?

Is anyone getting this channel? Thx

tjstoddard

12-28-07, 07:28 PM

tjstoddard

12-28-07, 07:29 PM

irvinecox

12-28-07, 09:58 PM

You will have to wait till Feb. 2008 (don't hold your breath) to be rid of the SUBSCRIBE SCREEN! COX puts the vendor before the subscriber!

moyekj

12-29-07, 11:04 AM

It's showing correctly on mine... OK great, thanks for confirming.

wongboys

12-29-07, 04:18 PM

ehong33234

12-29-07, 08:27 PM

That's normal for FSN HD, it only broadcasts when a game is on..

That's strange, but I will give it a try and check this channel when a game is on. I would think if a company is broadcasting on a channel, it would take advantage of all time slots through their own shows or atleast paid advertising.

can anyone else comment on this?

ehong33234

12-29-07, 08:27 PM

Longtime lurker, newbie poster....

After I rebooted my 3416, the guide on an HD channel (e.g., 702) is only 4x3. I recall that the guide normally fills the screen. Also, the channel button bar along the bottom doesn't stretch to fill the entire width on an HD channnel.

Related subject...can you stretch a non-HD program to fill the entire screen on channel 702, for example? I've tried all the settings to no avail.

Appreciate any tips or comments. BTW, I live in the Tustin Ranch area.

I have this same problem too. When I'm watching my HD channels, the guide and channel bar is only in 4:3. This is annoying.

capt601

12-30-07, 01:10 AM

hello all. I am just getting our first HDtv tomorrow, along with new receiver that accepts HDMI inputs. We have a motorola DCT6412, but it does not have any HDMI outputs on it. Is there a box that does from Cox? I am just trying to stay wiht all HDMI wires, but did notice the 6412 has a DVI plug, bu twhy no HDMI?

thanks

JETninja

12-30-07, 02:30 AM

My 6416 Has HDMI out, though it stopped working awhile back so I just use the Component. I have a 61" LCoS 1080P Set (max pixels you could get earlier this year) and I saw no difference.....

Someday I'll get the new all digital box, but am in no hurry. Just got a PS3, I will connect it through a 2nd HDMI input on my set....

AMRivlin

12-30-07, 05:20 AM

scottvan

12-30-07, 08:58 AM

ajwees41

12-30-07, 10:43 AM

I remember a few waiting for Comcastic to roll out the Tivo, it appears it offers very little beyond the aptiv software we already have.

more details: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/29/comcast-tivo-hamstringed-in-the-worst-places/

what feature are you lookinf for? all the core TiVo functionality - Season Passes, Wishlists, etc - are in there.

moyekj

12-30-07, 01:37 PM

I remember a few waiting for Comcastic to roll out the Tivo, it appears it offers very little beyond the aptiv software we already have.

more details: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/29/comcast-tivo-hamstringed-in-the-worst-places/ I agree. The big things missing are all the network related features, especially TivoToGo, MRV, remote scheduling. 30-sec skip is also not there which Iguide users were used to having. Also no way to upgrade hard drive and no external drive support are pretty big problems considering 160GB drive is the most you can currently get.

Then again, having proper season passes without getting repeat recordings of the same program may be worthwhile to some depending on what you record.

Not really a good alternative to the real Tivo hardware/software however.

tjstoddard

12-30-07, 10:03 PM

Longtime lurker, newbie poster....

After I rebooted my 3416, the guide on an HD channel (e.g., 702) is only 4x3. I recall that the guide normally fills the screen. Also, the channel button bar along the bottom doesn't stretch to fill the entire width on an HD channnel.

Related subject...can you stretch a non-HD program to fill the entire screen on channel 702, for example? I've tried all the settings to no avail.

Appreciate any tips or comments. BTW, I live in the Tustin Ranch area.

I just checked my tv while watching the Indie / Titans game in HD, the guide doesn't cover the entire screen, but when I switch to SD channel it does, is this what you guys are talking about? That is normal....

regarding SD content on HD channel , Your tv should have a screen format button to expand. However, I rarely do that as it just distorts the image.

xcrappy

12-31-07, 06:19 PM

Off topic, but my internet connection has been going out almost every 30 minutes today (December 31st). Is this happening to anybody else?

smackdab

01-01-08, 06:10 PM

I know NBC HD is 84.2

Not sure where to find FOX and ABC

I want to watch w/o the cable box most times...and can't find all
of the basic HD channels...

thx!

mkpl

01-02-08, 12:32 AM

I know NBC HD is 84.2

Not sure where to find FOX and ABC

I want to watch w/o the cable box most times...and can't find all
of the basic HD channels...

thx!

This info may be outdated, but is what I found a few months ago. Cox started passing the PIDs for most of these a month or so ago, so a new scan should have them mapped to the channel they go with (2-1 for KCBS instead of 85-3, 4-1 for KNBC instead of 84-2 ...):
26-03 Cox3
26-69 KTBN
31-?? 7-02 KABC 2nd ch
31-?? 11-01 KTTV-HD
31-?? 7-01 KABC-HD
31-?? 7-03 KABC Weather
82-63 KOCE-SD
82-66 KDOC
82-84 KCET (SD)
82-80 KCOP (SD)
84-02 KNBC-HD
85-03 KCBS-HD
85-01 KCAL-HD
86-02 KTLA-HD
86-01 KOCE-HD
90-67 KPXN-SD
90-88 KABC (SD)
90-85 KCAL (SD)
90-86 KCBS (SD)
90-82 KNBC (SD)
90-83 KTLA (SD)
90-87 KTTV (SD)
90.10 KLCS (SD)
121.1 KCOP-HD

twarren

01-04-08, 10:19 AM

well, its January 2008. Does anyone in Tustin, Santa Ana or Orange areas have all the new HD channels yet? (And, if so, did they just show up or did you call service to get a hit?). I still have only 713 and the HDNet channels 79x.

Whitearrow

01-04-08, 01:13 PM

Ditto for me, twarren, and I'm in Irvine (Harvard/Walnut, 92606).

chomanfoo

01-04-08, 01:42 PM

Ditto for me, twarren, and I'm in Irvine (Harvard/Walnut, 92606).

I've got them all in 92606 @ Harvard/Deerfield. Have you tried a hit to your box?

chomanfoo

01-04-08, 04:00 PM

chomanfoo, you live in Windwood?

Yes I do.

teague

01-04-08, 07:30 PM

Whitearrow

01-04-08, 08:20 PM

I've got them all in 92606 @ Harvard/Deerfield. Have you tried a hit to your box?

No... I asked a few weeks ago (just before HDNet came online) and they said it wasn't here yet. I have seen quite a few cox trucks around lately, so hopefully soon.

When 713 and the HDNet channels came online, the box didn't even reboot, they were just there suddenly.

jlstang95

01-05-08, 11:36 AM

Does anybody get frame freeze and then picture break-up on the National Geographic Channel HD, I mean Nat Geo. It seems to happen once every couple of minutes. It's the only HD channel that seems to suffer from this problem.

mattym

01-05-08, 12:55 PM

Whitearrow

01-05-08, 02:08 PM

I notice the HD update (http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/city_list.asp) page has been updated, with January now listed for Irvine and February for Tustin and Santa Ana.

nocturne1

01-05-08, 02:12 PM

I notice the HD update (http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/city_list.asp) page has been updated, with January now listed for Irvine and February for Tustin and Santa Ana.

Doh! And now Foothill Ranch has slipped 1 month to April.....

But I guess it doesn't matter if I supposedly need that tuning resolver for my TivoHD....

1920x1080

01-06-08, 05:33 AM

I notice the HD update (http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/city_list.asp) page has been updated, with January now listed for Irvine and February for Tustin and Santa Ana.To moyekj,

Now that your 'hood is listed as "Available now," has it had any impact on the HD channels you receive with your S3's?

moyekj

01-06-08, 05:13 PM

To moyekj,

Now that your 'hood is listed as "Available now," has it had any impact on the HD channels you receive with your S3's? No change. With CableCards the following cannot be received:
714, 721, 739, 754, 756, 762, 772

Sugrat

01-07-08, 12:00 AM

Doh! And now Foothill Ranch has slipped 1 month to April.....

Yup the same for Trabuco Canyon - I was on the phone with customer service the other day getting a second box for the bedroom and the guy said it seems to be taking a little longer then they thought.....

1920x1080

01-07-08, 03:47 AM

No change. With CableCards the following cannot be received:
714, 721, 739, 754, 756, 762, 772Same with a buddy down in Ladera. He called in and got a hold of a billing supervisor that didn't have a clue--but to her credit, she said she would look into it and get back to him; she got back to him the next day, acknowledged the tuning resolver solution he was trying to tell her about the day before and then gave him 3 months (HD service) credit. She also said that if his situation doesn't change in 3 months, she'll give him another 3 months credit... <shrug> oh well...

twarren

01-09-08, 07:54 PM

so, I was at home today and around 10:30am the cable tv and internet service went out. I thought maybe this is a good thing as it might mean Cox is doing the network upgrades so went outside and walked down to the street and found several Cox trucks. I went to the nearest one and asked the driver if they were doing the updates and he said yes. I asked what this meant in terms of getting the new hd stations and he said it was a 2-step process: (1) install the equipment, which was being done and (2) a second team comes along and tests/activates it. He said that currently the second step is about 5 - 10 days behind the first step, so to look for the new stations to start showing up over the next week. Well, we'll see...

xcrappy

01-10-08, 02:56 AM

twarren

01-10-08, 02:42 PM

Where do you live?

I live in unincorporated OC between Tustin and Orange (near Foothill High).

MJCS

01-13-08, 06:41 PM

Has anyone else noticed that the onscreen guide has been very responsive lately?

xcrappy

01-14-08, 06:05 PM

Has anyone else noticed that the onscreen guide has been very responsive lately?

You're right, the guide loads up much quicker now. However, the DVR List button still lags.

ajwees41

01-14-08, 06:16 PM

Has anyone else noticed that the onscreen guide has been very responsive lately?

could you post your guide software and firmware versions to see if they are the same in Omaha since we both use Motorola equipment thanks.

ajwees41

MJCS

01-16-08, 04:37 PM

Platform Build: Version 16.38 April 12 2007

gcwieka

01-17-08, 03:33 PM

Anybody looked at their Cox bill this month? Mine jumped about $50 for one tv with HD service and PVR the're charging $125.

Added HDNet and got the email for the 5 "free" on deman downloads, but they still charged me even though I got an email back from them confirming the credit.

I hate funding their cash flow.

Another question....does HDNET and HDNETMV seem worth it? Haven't seen much in the guide of interest. Any opinions on its value?

moyekj

01-17-08, 08:23 PM

My bill went up $4 for January unexpectedly - looking at the bill, there are 2 separate items on the bill for internet:
Cox HSI Preferred w/ PowerBoost $19.58
Cox HSI Preferred w/ PowerBoost $17.04
TOTAL = $36.62

For me it should be $41.95 - $10.00 = $31.95 promotional price. When I called Cox to ask about why 2 separate charges they couldn't explain why and credited my account with $5 just like that... I didn't receive any notice of internet rate hikes and the Cox web site still has $41.95 as the advertised rate, so not sure what the deal was...

Cable bill went down as I opted out of HD tier since HDNET and HDNETMV I would not watch anyway. It's nice to have ESPNHD & ESPND2HD with no extra charge now. My cable bill is the lowest it's been in years...

MJCS

01-22-08, 01:04 AM

My box just rebooted at random...nothing new :(

moyekj

01-23-08, 01:08 PM

phdeane

01-23-08, 02:18 PM

I got lots of video & audio glitches at the beginning (up to about 15 minutes in) of my American Idol recording on 711=KTTVDT last night (1/22). Anyone else see that too? At first I thought I mistakenly recorded the OTA version instead and was getting antenna dropouts, but I confirmed it was the Cox feed.
no glitches in Newport - 92660

bigtuna

01-24-08, 12:34 PM

moyekj

01-24-08, 12:40 PM

I had them on multiple channels including American Idol. I am in Newport 92660. I think it is the box. Are you connected via HDMI like I am? No, the box it was recorded on was a Tivo Series 3 connected via Component to my LCD. It seems to have been a signal issue from KTTV itself.

grinchy

01-27-08, 04:56 PM

Hi All -
I'm moving from Time Warner in Huntington Beach to Cox in San Clemente.
I did some ineffective searching and didn't find an answer to this Q - can you help?

Plan on getting the basic internet ONLY. On the TW feed I have now, this allows me to receive all the unencrypted HD channels via QAM - I get the locals and some PBS. Will the situation be the same on Cox in San Clemente?

I don't need or want any of the encrypted channels - ESPN etc. . .

Thanks in advance.

kefer

01-27-08, 06:00 PM

moyekj

01-28-08, 12:21 AM

You can get 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11 in HD as well as KOCE HD on basic cable with a QAM tuner. You used to be able to get 13 as well, but after they recently added all of the new HD channels it disappeared (not sure why). If you don't subscribe to cable TV then theoretically Cox could install a low pass filter to block anything higher than around 600MHz (cable modems are using 561 & 567 MHz for downstream) which would then mean only ABC & FOX HD (@ 267MHz) would come through. It's unlikely they would put a filter on the line but I have heard one co-worker mention that such a filter was put in place for him when he dropped TV service but retained internet service.

grinchy

01-28-08, 11:36 PM

Thanks very much guys. Sounds like I have better than a 50-50 chance of getting the OTA HD stuff.
Appreciate the help.
Anyone want to lend a hand packing, too?

Brent_MN

01-28-08, 11:57 PM

I just moved in with a family that I'm renting a room from... I had them upgrade to HD-DVR for me and it's coming this week. It says on the Cox website that the DVR only holds 10 hours of HD content? Is this for real? I used to have Charter back when I lived in Minnesota, and I seem to recall it was a LOT more than that. I'm a little miffed if that's true because I travel a lot for weeks at a time...and well, you see my dilemma. WTF.

:)

teague

01-29-08, 12:00 AM

I can get about 19-20 hours of HD on my 6416.

Chris

Brent_MN

01-29-08, 12:17 AM

I can get about 19-20 hours of HD on my 6416.

Chris

I have no idea what model their sending me. I didn't handle the customer service person as I'm not authorized on the account.

I just moved in on Saturday and I didn't want to act all anal and controlling about this because I thought it might give off the wrong impression. lol.

19-20 still seems kinda slim, but I guess it's probably more than I think...and...it'll keep me from stockpiling stuff and feeling trapped... :)

larryis1

01-29-08, 12:26 AM

I am in Irvine CA (92602), and the Cox OC website states that our city will have the expanded HD list of channels by the end of January. Last month it was the end of December. As of today, no expansion to be seen. Anyone know whent the expanded channel line up will be "reality"?
Regards,
Larry

JohnCalif

01-29-08, 09:56 AM

Last night, about 15 minutes into the state of the union speech, I lost the HDTV signal for KTTVDT. I have basic cable and do not have a cable box. I tried all the HD channels that I receive; KCBSDT, KNBCDT, KABCDT, KTLADT, etc. I could not tune any of them. So... I did a re-scan of the channel list and that fixed the problem. It appears that Cox changed the frequences for these clear QAM digital channels here in Laguna Niguel. Did anyone else have this problem?

moyekj

01-29-08, 10:49 AM

Last night, about 15 minutes into the state of the union speach, I lost the HDTV signal for KTTVDT. I have basic cable and do not have a cable box. I tried all the HD channels that I receive; KCBSDT, KNBCDT, KABCDT, KTLADT, etc. I could not tune any of them. So... I did a re-scan of the channel list and that fixed the problem. It appears that Cox changed the frequences for these clear QAM digital channels here in Laguna Niguel. Did anyone else have this problem? No changes here in Mission Viejo for these:
KABCDT & KTTVDT = RF 31
KNBCDT = RF 84
KCBSDT = RF 85
KTLADT & KOCEDT = RF 86

KCOPDT = RF 118 (this one did change from RF 121 where it was last time I checked)