Goodbye Kwame Brown... hello NBA CHAMPIONSHIP! Wow, Pau Gasol is now a Laker! Pretty expensive trade for 2 1st round draft picks & Kwame & Crittenton (though good riddance of Kwame).
Especially once Bynum returns the Lakers will be a very deep and competitive team again.

Thanks, I am in 92602. Yeah, I know that I need to be patient, I just wish Cox would level with me when I call them. Did you have to reset your box, or did it occur automatically?

Regards,
Larry


im in 92602 also, i have had all the channels for almost 2 months. where abouts do you live? im guessing one of the apartment complexes near target? call up cox and ask them to refresh your cable box, then wait a few hours

I am in Northpark.
Larry

I have already called Cox and refreshed both HD/DVR boxes. They have not completed Irvine yet...
Larry

Larry,
I live in Northpark also and have had ALL the channels since December! You have to be insistent! Cox is disjointed, to say the least! The channels are there for you, go get them!

So I got my 6416 today and am up and running. I live in Mission Viejo, the 5 and La Paz, 92692 and do not have the new HD channels. I refreshed the box this afternoon....nothin. Am I supposed to have them?

So I got my 6416 today and am up and running. I live in Mission Viejo, the 5 and La Paz, 92692 and do not have the new HD channels. I refreshed the box this afternoon....nothin. Am I supposed to have them? Yes

lol. ok. well, I suppose I could read through the rest of this thread to find out how to get them, or just enjoy what I have and eventually I will have them. I haven't had cable for two years, so I'm pretty pleased with what I have...but well, no Cinemax in HD?? wtf. :)

Larry,
I live in Northpark also and have had ALL the channels since December! You have to be insistent! Cox is disjointed, to say the least! The channels are there for you, go get them!

Irvinecox... Are you getting all of the HD channels that are identified in the following Cox URL listing their expanded HD Channel Line-UP?

http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/programming.asp

That would include: 713, 714, 756, 757, 761, 762, etc...

Regards,
Larry

Anyone know if Cox plans to offer KCET-HD in Orange County?

Your guess is as good as mine

Irvinecox... Are you getting all of the HD channels that are identified in the following Cox URL listing their expanded HD Channel Line-UP?

http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/programming.asp

That would include: 713, 714, 756, 757, 761, 762, etc...

Regards,
Larry
Larry,
Yes I am! Have them since December! I had to call in and have the box refreshed twice as per advice from this board. Cox is not very adapt at managing their technical expertise. They announce new channels, but the subscriber has to jump through hoops to actually receive them. What street are you on in Northpark?

I am in the Evergreen subassociation at the far west end of the community adjacent to the 261TR. I have called Cox many times and they say they have not got here as of yet. But it seems that most of them are "robots" and have very little insight to the larger Cox plans/actions. I will just have to keep on following up with them.
Thanks,
Larry

Keep trying! Like I said, they upgraded this community in December!

Did anyone else have issues with pausing or recording the super bowl?? my DVR said that recording this channel was unavailable, but then it recorded house just fine afterwards....is Cox trying to tell me what i can and can't record?! what the...

Did anyone else have issues with pausing or recording the super bowl?? my DVR said that recording this channel was unavailable, but then it recorded house just fine afterwards....is Cox trying to tell me what i can and can't record?! what the...

It wouldn't be cox, but fox not allowing the dvring.

Did anyone else have issues with pausing or recording the super bowl?? my DVR said that recording this channel was unavailable, but then it recorded house just fine afterwards....is Cox trying to tell me what i can and can't record?! what the... No problems recording Superbowl on 711 with my Tivo...

It wouldn't be cox, but fox not allowing the dvring.

that's really interesting. did they do that for regular season games also?

that's really interesting. did they do that for regular season games also? They don't restrict it - it's a free to air channel after all. Must of been a glitch in your DVR.

all the new HD channels magically appeared for me last night.

92691. Mission Viejo.

Just got a flyer in the mail this weekend saying that cable/phone and internet will be going down this Friday because they are adding new fiber in our neighborhood.

Maybe (if lucky) after that I'll see if we (Trabuco Canyon) have the new channels.

Just got a flyer in the mail this weekend saying that cable/phone and internet will be going down this Friday because they are adding new fiber in our neighborhood.

Maybe (if lucky) after that I'll see if we (Trabuco Canyon) have the new channels.

Funny. I got that flyer A FEW DAYS AFTER they did the work on my neighborhood (Foothill Ranch). Idiots.

Finally got the full HD line up in 92602, it was available all along. An error or lack of programming in the Cox back office kept me from receiving them. A champion in Cox Cust. Service addressed the problem, bore through their bureaucracy and solved my problem. Thank goodess for individual champions that care about customer service.

Best Regards,
Larry

I just bought a Vizio VU42LF 42" and am running my Cox cable directly thru the RF (F Connector for internal tuner) and after doing a search it locates all the analog and digital channels available. Does anyone have a spreadsheet listing what those channels are? (ie: Channel 7-1 is ABCHD, 11-1 is FOXHD, 84-2 NBCHD and 85-3 is CBSHD)

I know I should trade my box but I have a series 2 Tivo that also has an analog tuner and uses our digital box allowing two channels to be recorded. Before I mess around trying to figure out what channels are where I thought I would ask.

I just bought a Vizio VU42LF 42" and am running my Cox cable directly thru the RF (F Connector for internal tuner) and after doing a search it locates all the analog and digital channels available. Does anyone have a spreadsheet listing what those channels are? (ie: Channel 7-1 is ABCHD, 11-1 is FOXHD, 84-2 NBCHD and 85-3 is CBSHD)

I know I should trade my box but I have a series 2 Tivo that also has an analog tuner and uses our digital box allowing two channels to be recorded. Before I mess around trying to figure out what channels are where I thought I would ask. There's a spreadsheet link in my signature. Since different tuners assign different sub-channel numbers and some work with PSIP data while others don't I don't provide the actual final channel number since there is too much variation among tuners - rather I report the actual frequencies of each channel (and the associated RF channel #s). spreadsheet is using lists, so you can sort however you wish by any of the columns.

Oddly I found something similar on a different forum but there was no "RF" channels on it. I think I'll kick myself now as I had looked at over 40 some pages in the thread before giving and posting my question. I know I saw your signature and didn't think anything of it as I was scanning for 85-3 or similar.

I take it the unencrypted are the only ones I can see without Cox's HD box correct?

Does the Cox HD box have the ability to have an RF for analog/digital channels to go thru my Series 2 Tuner and the Component to run to the TV?

I take it the unencrypted are the only ones I can see without Cox's HD box correct? Correct
Does the Cox HD box have the ability to have an RF for analog/digital channels to go thru my Series 2 Tuner and the Component to run to the TV? The Cox Motorola digital boxes have Component and HDMI (or DVI on older models) outputs in addition to S-video & composite outputs, so you can run S-video output to your S2 and Component output to your TV. Of course doing it that way you have to setup your S2 to IR blast the Moto box.
Alternatively analog channels are still available so you could split the coax from the wall and use your S2 RF cable input for just analog lineup without having to use an IR blaster.
Finally, Cox OC DVR with Passport Echo software is actually fairly decent as far as cable DVR boxes go, so you should also consider that option for HD channel DVR capability.

Finally got the full HD line up in 92602, it was available all along. An error or lack of programming in the Cox back office kept me from receiving them. A champion in Cox Cust. Service addressed the problem, bore through their bureaucracy and solved my problem. Thank goodess for individual champions that care about customer service.

Best Regards,
Larry

Sorry you had to go through all that, Larry, but I, for one, am glad you finally got it resolved. I'm moving from Newport Beach to 92602 in two days and was following your progress. Glad to know I will have all the same HD channels in Irvine I have enjoyed for quite some time in Newport Beach. thanks

What is "Passport Echo software"?

I love my Tivo as I have had both Series 1 and 2. We got a DirecTV DVr and the thing SUCKED horribly. You would try to rewind or ffwd and the thing would pause and then when you tried to stop it wouldn't stop. The thing cost us $99 install which was BS and we didn't own it.

What is "Passport Echo software"?

I love my Tivo as I have had both Series 1 and 2. We got a DirecTV DVr and the thing SUCKED horribly. You would try to rewind or ffwd and the thing would pause and then when you tried to stop it wouldn't stop. The thing cost us $99 install which was BS and we didn't own it. Passport Echo is the DVR software that Cox is using in Orange County and certain other locations for it's DVR. A lot of information I put together here (including a brief comparison to Tivo S3):
http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/DCT6412_Passport.html
As far as cable co. DVRs go it's one of the better ones. Of course being used to Tivo there are things you won't like, but all in all it's not a bad solution which can be had for about $10/month extra over regular digital service (and no upfront fee for a box). There are a few things I miss about it that Tivo doesn't do.
I used it for years. I eventually switched to use Tivo S3s when they became available for these main reasons:
1. MRV & TTG
2. 30 sec skip
3. Bigger hard drive + expandability
4. More robust season passes (with 28 day rule of not recording duplicates)
... some others more minor reasons I forgot about

I've had the Cox PVR since the first week it was offered in Irvine. Now I have a second HDTV, and I'm interested in a second PVR. Does anyone know if Cox will be offering one soon that will play the shows on the other PVR?

Chris

I've had the Cox PVR since the first week it was offered in Irvine. Now I have a second HDTV, and I'm interested in a second PVR. Does anyone know if Cox will be offering one soon that will play the shows on the other PVR?

Chris

it's not a different box but a sort of home cable network but like Omaha which also uses motorola equipment theymost likely have no plans to enable mrv viewing.

it's not a different box but a sort of home cable network but like Omaha which also uses motorola equipment theymost likely have no plans to enable mrv viewing. The technology is called MOCA and enables IP over coax. It's actually really cool technology and is a real good substitute for cat5 connectivity around the house. Almost every room in my house is already wired for coax but I have no cat5 runs so it turned out to be the perfect solution for wired network connectivity all around the house.

I went through a lot of pain trying to optimize network transfers between my Tivos. I had 802.11g and that didn't cut it, maxing out around 22 Mbps. I then tried 802.11n bridges and they turned out to be worse performance than my 802.11g solution (19 Mbps). I also tried the Tivo 802.11g wireless adapter and that was not very good (20 Mbps). I then tried Homeplug technology and also not good enough (22 Mbps).
Finally, I got myself a couple of Motorola NIM100 MOCA boxes from Ebay (they are not sold at retail outlets). With a pair of NIM100 boxes you can make an ethernet bridge over existing coax runs in your house - as a substitute for cat5 ethernet cable. With that solution I am now getting 80Mbps transfer rates over coax which is comparable to straight cat5 connections where I can get 90Mbps transfer rates. Absolutely blows away wireless or Homeplug. It's very simple too - zero configuration. You just plug the NIM100 boxes in and they have a coax pass-thru so you don't even need to use splitters. They then have an ethernet output that you can connect to your router/switch/ethernet device. Works wonderfully and now I can start transfers from 1 Tivo to the other and start watching right away and can skip all commercials without interruption.
I liked the solution so much I bought a 3rd NIM100 and replaced my Replay wireless connection with it, and also to have a spare.

Technology works so well it's a wonder that MOCA hasn't really taken off yet - consumer devices are slated to come out this year.
Motorola has already demonstrated their DVR with embedded MOCA capabilities for multi-room viewing, but Cox would need to switch boxes as the current boxes don't have embedded MOCA AFAIK (perhaps the DCH boxes might but I don't think so).

NOTE: It's configurable, but for the NIM100 boxes the default is to use 1150 MHz as a carrier frequency which is well outside the video range and therefore there is no interference with video signals, so you use your existing coax which you are already using for video. Couldn't be easier - wherever you have coax runs you can treat them as if they were cat5 runs, and it works through spiltters, amps, whatever.

I would be interested to see what the roll off for a 1Ghz spltter would be. 150Mhz is about 25 channels above the max rating on most CATV passive devices. If your home had long runs, 100' - 200' is not all that unusual, and at 1 GHz, RG6 looses 6.5 db.

The technology is called MOCA and enables IP over coax. It's actually really cool technology and is a real good substitute for cat5 connectivity around the house. Almost every room in my house is already wired for coax but I have no cat5 runs so it turned out to be the perfect solution for wired network connectivity all around the house.

I went through a lot of pain trying to optimize network transfers between my Tivos. I had 802.11g and that didn't cut it, maxing out around 22 Mbps. I then tried 802.11n bridges and they turned out to be worse performance than my 802.11g solution (19 Mbps). I also tried the Tivo 802.11g wireless adapter and that was not very good (20 Mbps). I then tried Homeplug technology and also not good enough (22 Mbps).
Finally, I got myself a couple of Motorola NIM100 MOCA boxes from Ebay (they are not sold at retail outlets). With a pair of NIM100 boxes you can make an ethernet bridge over existing coax runs in your house - as a substitute for cat5 ethernet cable. With that solution I am now getting 80Mbps transfer rates over coax which is comparable to straight cat5 connections where I can get 90Mbps transfer rates. Absolutely blows away wireless or Homeplug. It's very simple too - zero configuration. You just plug the NIM100 boxes in and they have a coax pass-thru so you don't even need to use splitters. They then have an ethernet output that you can connect to your router/switch/ethernet device. Works wonderfully and now I can start transfers from 1 Tivo to the other and start watching right away and can skip all commercials without interruption.
I liked the solution so much I bought a 3rd NIM100 and replaced my Replay wireless connection with it, and also to have a spare.

Technology works so well it's a wonder that MOCA hasn't really taken off yet - consumer devices are slated to come out this year.
Motorola has already demonstrated their DVR with embedded MOCA capabilities for multi-room viewing, but Cox would need to switch boxes as the current boxes don't have embedded MOCA AFAIK (perhaps the DCH boxes might but I don't think so).

NOTE: It's configurable, but for the NIM100 boxes the default is to use 1150 MHz as a carrier frequency which is well outside the video range and therefore there is no interference with video signals, so you use your existing coax which you are already using for video. Couldn't be easier - wherever you have coax runs you can treat them as if they were cat5 runs, and it works through spiltters, amps, whatever.
Moyekj,

Do you know if this has any impact on phone or internet service?

Moyekj,

Do you know if this has any impact on phone or internet service? No impact (I have internet service). Both phone & internet services are within 860 MHz range (for Cox OC internet is at 561,567MHz & phone at 605-615MHz) and as I mentioned by default these MOCA devices are running at > 1GHz. Note also that there is a web based configuration interface where if needed there are different channels at different frequencies that can be used, but Cox and most other providers have nothing above 860MHz since most headend equipment is not rated above that range.

I would be interested to see what the roll off for a 1Ghz spltter would be. 150Mhz is about 25 channels above the max rating on most CATV passive devices. If your home had long runs, 100' - 200' is not all that unusual, and at 1 GHz, RG6 looses 6.5 db. I have 1GHz rated splitters in 1 room upstairs and an 8-way amplified splitter following my cable drop that all my coax runs go through (with no return path amplification) and fairly long coax runs up to about 70' or so. As I mentioned I'm getting TCP/IP throughput of 80 Mbps or so for many different size packets (using netio TCP/IP benchmarking tool (http://www.ars.de/ars/ars.nsf/docs/netio)) between upstairs and downstairs rooms. Same benchmarking test with a long 75' cat5 cable yield 90 Mbps. So I would say the technology is pretty robust to give me almost cat5 equivalent throughput over a non-optimal coax setup.

I just tried netio with my Linksys PowerLine AV Ethernet adapters. One is upstairs and one is downstairs. Here are my results.

NETIO - Network Throughput Benchmark, Version 1.26
(C) 1997-2005 Kai Uwe Rommel

TCP connection established.
Packet size 1k bytes: 6570 KByte/s Tx, 6835 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 2k bytes: 6636 KByte/s Tx, 6916 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 4k bytes: 6832 KByte/s Tx, 7108 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 8k bytes: 6878 KByte/s Tx, 7119 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 16k bytes: 6878 KByte/s Tx, 7186 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 32k bytes: 6922 KByte/s Tx, 7165 KByte/s Rx.

Anyone know if Cox plans to offer KCET-HD in Orange County?

I have KCET-HD in Irvine by Cox.

gychang

I just tried netio with my Linksys PowerLine AV Ethernet adapters. One is upstairs and one is downstairs. Here are my results.

NETIO - Network Throughput Benchmark, Version 1.26
(C) 1997-2005 Kai Uwe Rommel

TCP connection established.
Packet size 1k bytes: 6570 KByte/s Tx, 6835 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 2k bytes: 6636 KByte/s Tx, 6916 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 4k bytes: 6832 KByte/s Tx, 7108 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 8k bytes: 6878 KByte/s Tx, 7119 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 16k bytes: 6878 KByte/s Tx, 7186 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 32k bytes: 6922 KByte/s Tx, 7165 KByte/s Rx. That's not too bad for powerline adapters:
(6570/1000)*8 = 52 Mbps
(7186/1000)*8 = 57 Mbps
With my MOCA NIM100s I'm getting around 10000 KByte/s = 80 Mbps

Still rustin' in Tustin...

Anyone know what the wait time is for a DVR from Cox in OC? I just had to order new service (leaving D* thanks to my d@mn HOA) and they say I'm on the waiting list for DVR. :(

Saw this today:
http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/BUSINESS/802200303/1046

Cox plans to add 9 new HD channels to one of its Louisiana franchises -- it doesn't say which, but it looks like LA currently gets the same channels we do. It also mentions the addition of "HD Free Zone OnDemand." I guess we'll see if we get any of this... I hope if we do the the channels are less sports focused and more of the basic cable nets in HD, like FX, Sci-Fi and USA.

I'll respond to my own question just in case anyone else is curious. I spoke with Cox and all they would tell me is that they hope to get more HD DVR's in stock in March. Not much help but I guess it's better than April. I already miss D* and it's only been one day....

I think that article mentioned that LA. will get the Science Channel HD.
I hope that we get that channel soon.

Saw this today:
http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/BUSINESS/802200303/1046

Cox plans to add 9 new HD channels to one of its Louisiana franchises -- it doesn't say which, but it looks like LA currently gets the same channels we do. It also mentions the addition of "HD Free Zone OnDemand." I guess we'll see if we get any of this... I hope if we do the the channels are less sports focused and more of the basic cable nets in HD, like FX, Sci-Fi and USA.

it says in this article: "It brings Cox's total HD channels to 33, which subscribers can see if they own an HD TV set, and rent Cox's HD digital box for $35 per month." $35/month for renting a box seems a bit high

No impact (I have internet service). Both phone & internet services are within 860 MHz range (for Cox OC internet is at 561,567MHz & phone at 605-615MHz) and as I mentioned by default these MOCA devices are running at > 1GHz. Note also that there is a web based configuration interface where if needed there are different channels at different frequencies that can be used, but Cox and most other providers have nothing above 860MHz since most headend equipment is not rated above that range.

Any TCP/IP interference or snooping issues with your neighbor if they were to have the same MOCA setup?

Any TCP/IP interference or snooping issues with your neighbor if they were to have the same MOCA setup? According to the MOCA.org FAQ (http://www.mocalliance.org/en/aboutus/faq.asp) there is usually enough isolation at multitaps and distribution drops. On the NIM100s you can also change the DES encryption key, the carrier frequency and the IP range can be changed and restricted to only as many NIM100s you have (via a web page configuration) so that can thwart any kind of snooping by neighbors in case your drop is not already isolated.

so, there are 5 days left in February; is anyone living in Tustin,Orange, Santa Ana actually getting the new HD stations? (I am not as of this morning, even though some 6 weeks ago the Cox technicians were in my neighborhood and said that they were upgrading the node equipment and that I should start receiving the new stations within 7 - 10 days; I've called in several times during the last 6 weeks and could not get any useful information).

so, there are 5 days left in February; is anyone living in Tustin,Orange, Santa Ana actually getting the new HD stations? (I am not as of this morning, even though some 6 weeks ago the Cox technicians were in my neighborhood and said that they were upgrading the node equipment and that I should start receiving the new stations within 7 - 10 days; I've called in several times during the last 6 weeks and could not get any useful information). It was the same deal in Mission Viejo for a while - it seemed like until all nodes in a City/area were complete Cox was not enabling accounts to receive those channels even though they were making it through.

I noticed that FSN HD was added here in RSM

Does anybody know if Cox will add the Science Channel HD or FX HD anytime soon.

Does anybody know if Cox will add the Science Channel HD or FX HD anytime soon.

Cox has an agreement to carry all the Discovey HD networks including Science it't only channel space they need. I am also waiting for it in Omaha.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=76341&p=irol-newsArticle&t=Regular&id=1055321&

Does anybody know if Cox will add the Science Channel HD or FX HD anytime soon. To me, USA HD & SciFi HD are the most glaring remaining omissions - hopefully those are popular enough where they wouldn't fall under SDV umbrella if/when launched.

I noticed that FSN HD was added here in RSM

Also here in San Clemente.

the cox oc city list for hd availability has just been updated; Santa Ana, Orange, Tustin are now listed as "March 2008" ... I guess this wasn't unexpected (: sigh

Versus, Travel, and NHL HD are in SD,

but we have History HD and the HD Nets, which SD does not. For once OC has a premium lineup. If it ever gets turned on :)

Sorry to dig up this post but it was the most recent one I could find...

Does Cox OC have the NHL Network? I don't see it in my guide but I see people talking about it. Am I missing it??

Sorry to dig up this post but it was the most recent one I could find...

Does Cox OC have the NHL Network? I don't see it in my guide but I see people talking about it. Am I missing it?? Nope, Cox OC/PV HD channels are listed here:
http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/new.asp
and here:
http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/programming.asp

you lucky peoples sure get a lot of free HD

you lucky peoples sure get a lot of free HD

too bad half of us aren't getting these free channels (yet)!

To me, USA HD & SciFi HD are the most glaring remaining omissions - hopefully those are popular enough where they wouldn't fall under SDV umbrella if/when launched.



And Speed HD! :D

On your Wireless speed you mentioned (20-22mbps) that was the actual file transfer speed and not the shown connected speed? I ask, because my Network (my 3rd one so far, 2nd "Super G" type Router) has my Desktop PC and a Sony PS1 or 2 hardwired, and Wireless connections at an always solid 54mbps to a PS3, 2 Dell Laptops and a kids bedroom PC, and another PS2. All of them have regular "G" connectivity. I moved to the Buffalo Dual Antenna Unit (a newegg customer winner) cause it shares the rom with a linksys unit and there are two major custom rom programs out there for experience users. (which I have not installed as of yet)

HD broadcast video = 20-22mbps

That is what he is refering too

On your Wireless speed you mentioned (20-22mbps) that was the actual file transfer speed and not the shown connected speed? I was referring to actual IP networking speeds using netio benchmark tool (http://www.ars.de/ars/ars.nsf/docs/netio) between 2 PCs. The connection speed shown for your wireless connection is not indicative of your actual network speed - it's more of a strength meter.
File transfers are also slowed by Windows protocol overhead so if netio shows you getting IP speeds around 20 Mbps your file transfer speeds will be quite a bit slower than that (about half with Windows XP file copy from my brief testing). Therefore I found network file copying to be a very poor benchmark test which is why I searched around and found a better tool such as the above mentioned netio.

i have a sony 60" xbr2 with cablecard.

how can i find the if the hdgolf(723) ch. is sdv?

don't see it on your spreadsheet.

do you cox/sony will support a sdv cc solution?

tia

i have a sony 60" xbr2 with cablecard.

how can i find the if the hdgolf(723) ch. is sdv?

don't see it on your spreadsheet.

do you cox/sony will support a sdv cc solution?

tia Any Unidirectional Digital Cable Product (UDCP) cannot tune SDV channels. Most consumer CableCard devices deployed to date are UDCPs including your TV. If your TV has a USB port then it's possible firmware could be updated on it to support the forthcoming Tuning Resolver with USB interface, but that's up to Sony and I would think the chances are fairly slim...
NOTE: AFAIK Cox OC has not yet deployed SDV, they are simply reserving new channel additions for SDV as they have also been doing in other markets as dictated by corporate mandate.

I've updated my spreadsheet to include a couple of missing channels.

Don't know the frequencies however, so if someone with a Cox set top box could post the frequencies of the following channels that would be great:
723
757

i have a cablebox now but how do i see what the frequency is?

no usb on my lcos sony. bummer.

thanks

i have a cablebox now but how do i see what the frequency is?

no usb on my lcos sony. bummer.

thanks If you have the DVR:
METHOD 1
Power, Select, Select
Choose d06
OR METHOD 2
Press Menu button to get to Quick Settings Menu, then
Down, B, Up, B in quick succession

For non-DVR METHOD 1 may work, METHOD 2 won't.

"One Moment Please"

Looks like we got some new software. DVR List loads up a lot more quicker now, but the guide is maybe 1 second slower. In addition, a different menu comes up when you hit stop. PIP feature still remains inactive.

Tivo HD is $185 today on Woot.com

Yeah the channel guide has changed. There is a new "new" icon, also when you exit the video slides out to the right then the guide fades. That seems to be the only change that I notice

That seems to be the only change that I notice
That, and the fact I just got an E-mail telling me my 3416's "RECORD" light won't be working for six months! :confused:

FYI, Tivo announced today that Cox/Tivo DVR trials will be launching (I assume soon) in Cox New England market:
http://investor.tivo.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=297873
In addition, we are announcing today that the TiVo service on Cox is currently in tech trials and we will be launching in Cox's New England market Hopefully Cox OC won't be far behind. Also hope that Cox OC is aware of the Tuning Resolver to enable CableCard Tivos to access SDV channels.

"One Moment Please"

Looks like we got some new software. DVR List loads up a lot more quicker now, but the guide is maybe 1 second slower. In addition, a different menu comes up when you hit stop. PIP feature still remains inactive.

does your guide on the dvr's now have a TVguide logo at the bottom? What version of the software do you have know?

That, and the fact I just got an E-mail telling me my 3416's "RECORD" light won't be working for six months! :confused:

did it say why the record light won't work?

Here are the new version numbers:

Echo 3.0.058 Built Sep 25, 2007, FW 18.34

The setting page now has 12 pages of info instead of 2

The guide seems to be more responsive as well.

Here are the new version numbers:

Echo 3.0.058 Built Sep 25, 2007, FW 18.34

The setting page now has 12 pages of info instead of 2

The guide seems to be more responsive as well. Google search on Aptiv 3.0 dug up this info (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19890701-). The 30 sec skip one seems very intriguing, can someone give it a try?
There are a few enhancements from going from Aptiv 2.7 to 3.0, Some are :

One Moment Please graphics when going to the Guide and to/from some menus.

Guide is quicker to respond, Boot time is quicker

Preview Window slides in from the right in the guide.

30 Sec Skip feature, By hitting play twice.

Some Fixes :

recording resumes after EAS interruption

"Remaining space" Should show percentages instead of hours

Favorite" icon should display next to channel numbers in channel banner for favorite channels

Searching has been overhauled..

Hitting play twice does nothing for me, but I do have the new version. You can now list only the HD shows in the guide, or a custom setting.

Yeah, same for me. Hitting play twice only activates slow-mo.

I noticed the changes this morning, too. One more change, though, is that now the fan inside the 3412 is on full power! Very annoying.

did it say why the record light won't work?
No, but I'm guessing "Huge software bug that we can't believe nobody discovered in QA!" based on how long a fix is gonna take. Good thing my 3416 is the bedroom unit that records "filler" shows.

The 30 sec skip one seems very intriguing, can someone give it a try?
Whew- you'd had me worried there! I much prefer slow-mo to 30-sec skip any day!

Yeah the channel guide has changed. There is a new "new" icon, also when you exit the video slides out to the right then the guide fades. That seems to be the only change that I notice

Here's the big change I've noticed, every single time I hit a button on the remote control the DVR ACTUALLY TOOK THE COMMAND!!!!

I don't know about anyone else but in the past about 30% of the time, hitting a button on the remote was ignored by the box. It now works all the time. Hallelujah!

Hitting play twice does nothing for me, but I do have the new version. You can now list only the HD shows in the guide, or a custom setting.

how do you list just HD shows? (and how does the new icon in bottom left work? ie how do you activate it?)

thanks

Whew- you'd had me worried there! I much prefer slow-mo to 30-sec skip any day! In the thread I quoted above, slow-mo (forward and backward) is still there, just activated differently. Seems like Cox OC intentionally chose to disable 30 sec skip. Specifically in that market:
Slow motion playback still exists, they just moved it to a different button combination. The new playback buttons are:
[PLAY][PLAY] : 30 second skip
[PAUSE][FFWD] : move forward in slow motion
[PAUSE][RWND] : move backward in slow motion
[PAUSE][Right Arrow] : manual step forward frame by frame
[PAUSE][Left Arrow] : manual step backward frame by frame

WHOA! We have BACKWARDS slo-mo now!

With the new software update, does anybody else have the problem of not being able select the Dobly Digital AC-3 setting. It keeps reseting back to PCM.
Also, the red light does not come on when recording. Who gets to call cox to tell them the new software is full of bugs.

Confirmed for OC in April: 2 new HD channels.

Science Channel HD
Travel Channel HD

Slow motion playback still exists, they just moved it to a different button combination. The new playback buttons are:
[PLAY][PLAY] : 30 second skip
[PAUSE][FFWD] : move forward in slow motion
[PAUSE][RWND] : move backward in slow motion
[PAUSE][Right Arrow] : manual step forward frame by frame
[PAUSE][Left Arrow] : manual step backward frame by frameHitting Play twice still just gives me slow-mo... no 30 second skip. :(

Can anybody else confirm the PCM bug is back. I am running the audio via coaxial and not optical. Maybe it will hold the dolby digital setting with the optical out.

Problem solved. Simple reboot got the setting to hold.

you guys are lucky. In the area surrounding OC ("Crime" Warner teritory) we are hoping Switched Digital Video brings more HD. I am just curios, have you guys already gone through SDV?

you guys are lucky. In the area surrounding OC ("Crime" Warner teritory) we are hoping Switched Digital Video brings more HD. I am just curios, have you guys already gone through SDV? Cox OC has not yet deployed SDV but are slated to do so sometime soon. However, they have already been holding back new HD channel additions from CableCard users in preparation for SDV. Currently there are about 9 HD channels that CableCard users cannot receive due to this.

It's so stupid that they are holding those back. They are NOT switching, and there's no technical reason as to why we should NOT be able to see them now. And when they DO start using SDV, then I can understand us being without for a (hopefully) short period of time before tuning resolvers come out.

So their business decision is to screw us for a long period of time, rather than give us something while we wait and then temporarily take it away.

It's so stupid that they are holding those back. They are NOT switching, and there's no technical reason as to why we should NOT be able to see them now. And when they DO start using SDV, then I can understand us being without for a (hopefully) short period of time before tuning resolvers come out.

So their business decision is to screw us for a long period of time, rather than give us something while we wait and then temporarily take it away. It seems to be a Corporate mandate as other Cox markets are doing the same thing, and Brighthouse Networks now also seems to be doing same thing. Cox OC was slated to be the next market after Virginia and Phoenix for SDV rollout so it's probably not too far out now so probably not worth fighting it (even if that were to get anywhere).
I would urge you to call in however and make sure that someone at Cox OC is at least aware of the Tuning Resolver so that hopefully we can get hold of one shortly after release. I plan on submitting an email to Cox OC about it shortly. A good summary of it and relevant links with more information is summed up here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=357703

The NCTA and TiVo announced that a dongle will be available in the first half of 2008 that will enable the TiVo to work with SDV channels. It will be a USB device that connects to a USB port on the TiVo and then plugs into the cable TV cable. The TiVo could tell the device “I need this channel”, the device would send that upstream and receive the frequency assignment and tell the TiVo where to find the channel that it requested. Recently, TiVo’s CEO discussed SDV while testifying before Congress and sounded very upbeat about TiVo finding a way to play nicely with SDV, but did not mention the S3 specifically. Check out this article on the Tivo Lovers Blog about for more details:
http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington
Here is TiVo's official info on the adapter.
http://tivosupport2.instancy.com/LaunchContent.aspx?CID=CBECF1B9-88DE-4B74-82C1-754C3260112A
CableLabs press release about USB dongle
http://cablelabs.com/news/pr/2007/07_pr_dcr_devices_112607.html
NCTA and TiVo press release
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/11-26-2007/0004711019&EDATE=#linktopagebottom

Finally got some announcement from Cox about SDV and Cablecards. Basically, they are saying that SDV is going live on 4/8, and a digital STB will be required to see the following channels:

- Pay per view channels
- Paquete Latino Tier
- Foreign Language Channels - TV-5, ART, RAE, ZEE TV, The Filipino Channel, TV Japan, TV Asia, and CTI Zhong Tian
- The following digital cable channels - CCTV-9, California Channel, CMT Pure Country, CSPAN2, CSPAN3, Fine Living, Fit TV, Fox Reality, Fuel, FUSE, Game Show Network, G4TechTV, HRTV, Jewelry TV, Leased Access (109), Shop NBC, TVG, and WeatherScan Local.

It also states that new channels added to Digital and HD may not be available to cablecard customers. They are offering a digital or HD receiver for $1.99 a month for the first year (normally $5.25/mo). This offer is only good through 6/30/08.

No mention of any tuning resolver, although I doubt that they'd ever put it in a mass-mailer like this anyways.

Finally got some announcement from Cox about SDV and Cablecards. Basically, they are saying that SDV is going live on 4/8, and a digital STB will be required to see the following channels:

- Pay per view channels
- Paquete Latino Tier
- Foreign Language Channels - TV-5, ART, RAE, ZEE TV, The Filipino Channel, TV Japan, TV Asia, and CTI Zhong Tian
- The following digital cable channels - CCTV-9, California Channel, CMT Pure Country, CSPAN2, CSPAN3, Fine Living, Fit TV, Fox Reality, Fuel, FUSE, Game Show Network, G4TechTV, HRTV, Jewelry TV, Leased Access (109), Shop NBC, TVG, and WeatherScan Local.

It also states that new channels added to Digital and HD may not be available to cablecard customers. They are offering a digital or HD receiver for $1.99 a month for the first year (normally $5.25/mo). This offer is only good through 6/30/08.

No mention of any tuning resolver, although I doubt that they'd ever put it in a mass-mailer like this anyways. I didn't get the mailer (yet), but they failed to list the 9 HD channels already not available to us even before SDV deployment...
However, I'm very glad to see that the other channels being selected for SDV are the less popular ones, which makes sense to maximize the efficacy of SDV anyway. Also good to see PPV in that bundle.

Confirmed for OC in April: 2 new HD channels.

Science Channel HD
Travel Channel HD

Oh boy :rolleyes:

Definitely my top 2 choices :mad:

Where did you get the information regarding the 2 new channels?

Where did you get the information regarding the 2 new channels?

Science and Travel HD logos are listed with **April 2008 COX adverts in the OC Register and Irvine Weekly.

I wonder if both Travel Channel HD and Science HD are coming as of April 8th. when SDV is supposed to take place.

By the way, thanks for the heads up regarding the new channels.

Hey guys,

My cable box (non-DVR) has been displaying the message "dl" in place of the clock since last night (at least 6-7 hours now). To the left there is a sort of loading animation in the shape of a clockwise "0". What does this mean? I can't turn on the set.

Hey guys,

My cable box (non-DVR) has been displaying the message "dl" in place of the clock since last night (at least 6-7 hours now). To the left there is a sort of loading animation in the shape of a clockwise "0". What does this mean? I can't turn on the set.

It means your box is in the middle of downloading a software update ("dl" means download). Just let it run and don't do anything that could interrupt it (like unplugging it).

But, if it takes more than 2hrs, it's a failed download and a power-cycle might be necessary.

But, if it takes more than 2hrs, it's a failed download and a power-cycle might be necessary. And failing that best thing to do is exchange the box for another at one of the local Cox facilities.

Definitely had new software downloaded late last week. GUI is much improved...now whenever you press GUIDE or DVR LIST, a little "Please wait.." or something box is displayed for a sec or two and then the menu appears. When the menu appears, the button reaction time and scrolling, etc. are much improved. The guide and DVR lists were often VERY sluggish, like others of you have experienced. This is now a thing of the past.

This must be the new Passport s/w rollout that someone mentioned a few weeks ago.

By the way, I'm in Aliso Viejo. We've been lucky in that we've been among the first to get new channels, and now it looks like among the first to get new updates...are people in non new channel rollout areas (Laguna Beach, parts of Irvine, etc.) getting this software update?

By the way, I'm in Aliso Viejo. We've been lucky in that we've been among the first to get new channels, and now it looks like among the first to get new updates...are people in non new channel rollout areas (Laguna Beach, parts of Irvine, etc.) getting this software update?

Yes. I'm in Tustin/Irvine and I got it last week. Several other people received it as well (check out page 128)

Yes. I'm in Tustin/Irvine and I got it last week. Several other people received it as well (check out page 128)

Oops, sorry. Somehow I missed that whole page. I didn't check this thread for a week or so and I expected it to be on the same page.

Cool, glad that it seems like most people have it and I'm stoked to be getting two new HD channels soon :)

In addition to the Science Channel and Travel Channel HD. It looks like we will be getting the east coast feed of HBO, Cinemax, SHO and Starz, KCET HD and the NHL network HD.
These were listed as coming soon in a Cox ad in the register today.

Why can't we have the SciFi Channel and FX :(

I don't know why there's a need to have the east coast feeds of the Hd premium channels or even our local PBS channels. I feel that's a waste of 5 HD channels when we could have 5 new HD networks. Seriously, if I were COX, I'd go for the following channels: Espnews HD, USA HD, SCI FI HD, Smithsonian Channel HD and Outdoor Channel HD.
I think some of the ones I just mentioned will eventually see the light of day on our local COX lineup. But until that becomes a reality...

Again, here goes cox neglecting their customers and website again.

Why can't they get us involved instead of making stupid decisions on channels that no one cares for. Send out a survey and let us see the channels coming soon online, not in a crappy newspaper.

Who knows where they've gotten their information? Consider that we might be in the minority compared to the Cox user base. (For example, I'm sure my GF would watch TravelHD).

here's one thing I've picked up from working in the industry for a while. Cox doesn't just get to pick and chose the channels, as nice as that would be, there are little stipulations in their contracts with certain companies for broadcast rights.

Here's an example:
Fox has their whole news and sports package. ESPN has their sports stuff, they compete, Fox wants world domination and says "if you want to broadcast our channels you can't broadcast ESPN". Cox goes "crap, dilema time, some clients wants fox, some want espn, greater percentage would stay with us if we got fox's entire lineup, sports, news, american idol, etc. then just ESPN sports"

Obviously the above isn't a real example, but you get the idea, and they really have to deal with that red tape. The reason why they're rolling out science HD, etc. is because that comes as part of the discovery lineup and having more HD channels means more e-peen (in a sense) bragging rights to keep up with satellite because when a user is first buying a service they see "directv: 70 HD channels" or whatever they have, "cox: 25" or whatever small amount. Your average customer will want quantity over quality when they're first signing up. Getting more for same or cheaper makes them feel like they're getting a good deal, even if directv picture quality really sucks.

It sucks for those of us who keep complaining about wanting the good channels on here, but Cox is a business and profit is the end goal and this is basic business: A customer is more likely to chose between two services in the beginning and stick with it vs. joining cox and then dropping several months later for satellite, so their goal is to get you hooked at signup, rest is easy. Don't believe me? you guys are still sticking with cox holding out hoping that you'll get the channels you want one of these days, and how many of you are you really going to deal with the costs of switching to satellite now?

I hope the above made sense, I'm extremely tired so who knows :/

...how many of you are you really going to deal with the costs of switching to satellite now?

I hope the above made sense, I'm extremely tired so who knows :/

It does, and I hear you, but why print updates in the Irvine Post, but not reflect it on the website.

And why call me each week and ask if I want phone, instead call and ask what channels I would be interested or put a website that has a survey, that would cost all of zero.

BTW; Science HD was meant to be part of that Discovery update, but I guess they wanted to put others up first

Travel HD is owned by COX so makes sense it is being tacked on.

I actually don't care what they add and (since they finally got the network upgraded) I am staying with COX until Uverse comes to the vine with 45mbps service.

appleboy, in reality a network cannot say to a provider, you can carry us but you can't carry them. What a network can do however is say that in order to carry espn, (which is x dollars per sub) you must also carry espn2 at y dollars per sub, and these channels have to be in the linup next to each other, and you also have to carry espnu at z dollars per sub, and espn classics at a dollars per sub. and espn and espn2 have to be on the expanded expanded package, not the digital package....

So my bet is that Cox like every other provider is doing its best to balance network demands, customer desires, and bandwidth restrictions. What good is SciFi if you also have to carry 8 other channels like basketweaving today, kitemaking university, and sandscrit as a first language?

It does, and I hear you, but why print updates in the Irvine Post, but not reflect it on the website.

just a hunch, huge company, two different departments (website vs. print), lack of communication, etc.


And why call me each week and ask if I want phone, instead call and ask what channels I would be interested or put a website that has a survey, that would cost all of zero.

because if they get you to sign up for phone service they get an extra what, $20-30/mo?

BTW; Science HD was meant to be part of that Discovery update, but I guess they wanted to put others up first

Travel HD is owned by COX so makes sense it is being tacked on.

I don't keep track of what they're adding, I pretty much just watch House now and couldn't really care about the rest. Most TV shows really suck now, and news stations don't report real news and/or lie about the news :(

@schmitter: within the law they can't say to a provider you can carry us but you can't carry them, but that doesn't mean they can't force it by jacking up their rates for the broadcasting rights if they see that said provider is carrying their competitor. A family member of mine works for a fortune 500 company and works closely with the sales department. The stories I hear of the red tape they have to cut through to get their products sold is amazing.

Quick totally off-topic example, intel sells processors, wifi and ethernet cards. Dell wants the processors but wants to use a seperate company for the wifi and lan stuff because the other company is cheaper and/or better. intel notices this and says "hey, our price of the processors just went up for <some BS reason here>, but you can get a discount if you start using our wifi and ethernet cards". Business politics are ugly and often times companies break the law and easily get away with it. Your point is valid too though, schmitter.

Your point is valid too though.

For those of you interested in knowing what percentage of our Cox programming is actually in HD versus SD, check out this link I just got from engadgethd.com. Enter in your zip and to see Cox, click on the link on the left:

http://www.whereishd.com/

While we all know TNTHD and TBSHD cannot possibly be 100% HD, it is interesting nonetheless. Take a look at Golf Channel/Versus HD...what a waste of a channel.

I note a comment above that a poster here got an Email from Cox OC that "the red recording light won't be fixed for 6 months!!!!!!"

When I called Cox Tech Supt, I got a recorded message that they were aware of this glitch (apparently caused by the most recent automatic FirmWare upgrade?) and were working to resolve it.

True, you can turn on the box and check to see if the recording indicator (Target shaped red/white) is on, but that isn't the "fix".

What other info about this problem have any of you been able to determine.

Chuck Proche

PS: And YES...how in the hell could this not have been caught in Beta testing etc????????

My red light works fine...must be an isolated thing

Same here....recording the Aussie F1 race while watching the ealier recorded 12 hours of Sebring ALMS Race. :D

Just thought this was funny
http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1082.gif

This may not be such an "isolated" problem...

jlstang95 posted #3836 on 3/6/08 at 8:27PM:

"...Also, the red light does not come on when recording. Who gets to call cox to tell them the new software is full of bugs?"

jlstang95: Do you still have this problem? Have you got Cox to fix this problem on your STB?

I recorded the Aussie F1 race as well...no red light, but it recorded fine.

This isn't a critical issue as I have 99% recording accuracy, but I DO still like to make SURE something is being recorded without having to crank up my whole Home Entertainment Center!

Chuck

PS: Before I contact Cox Tech Support again, I would like to get a better idea if this is just MY box doing this or if the problem is more widespread?

I fixed the Dolby Digital problem with a reboot, but I still have the red light problem. It does not light up when you record. It boggles the mind that this glitch would get through firmware testing.

I fixed the Dolby Digital problem with a reboot, but I still have the red light problem. It does not light up when you record. It boggles the mind that this glitch would get through firmware testing. From what I recall the no recording light problem is specific to the DCH3416 hardware. If you use the earlier DCT64xx or DCT34xx hardware then it's not a problem.

Is there a way to switch between the two tuners on the 3416 cox dvr's? I'm used to tivo's in that you can essentially watch two shows at once by pausing one and letting it record while watching another show on the second tuner. Then flipping back and forth as needed.

With the cox dvr, even swapping to the previous channel uses the same tuner so you lose all recording history etc. This really sucks.

Is there a way to switch between the two tuners on the 3416 cox dvrs?
There should be a "SWAP" button on your remote.

Perfect, thanks!

From what I recall the no recording light problem is specific to the DCH3416 hardware. If you use the earlier DCT64xx or DCT34xx hardware then it's not a problem.

Yes, this is the case. I have the DCH3416 and have no record light. My other two older boxes still shine red...

How about the subsription message? Anyone seeing that? I would gladdly trade you a stupid red LED in exchange for not seeing the subscription message.

haven't seen it in quite some time

I just spoke with a tech at Cox re this problem which is "Global" in nature for anyone with this particular box. The newest Firmware flash contained this bug and Moto is working "dilgently" to correct it. No timeline was estimated....it could be awhile...Cox has recieved many many complaints about this glitch.

Luckily, I don't have the "Subscription Bug" anymore...if I did, this problem would be truly unacceptable!

The tech ventured that it is a shame that OC customers wanted the Moto STB as San Diego Cox customers have the Scientific Atlanta STB, which has proven to be a MUCH better box, with no similar problems documented.

Chuck

PS: I guess I will have to "trust" the box to be recording what I have requested..I am getting tired of having to turn on the system just to make sure!

The tech ventured that it is a shame that OC customers wanted the Moto STB as San Diego Cox customers have the Scientific Atlanta STB, which has proven to be a MUCH better box, with no similar problems documented. Yes but most accounts I've seen are that the SA8300 with SARA software (which I believe Cox SA markets use) is a complete POS. With the Passport software they are OK but hardware still has it's share of problems.

Yes but most accounts I've seen are that the SA8300 with SARA software (which I believe Cox SA markets use) is a complete POS. With the Passport software they are OK but hardware still has it's share of problems.

this will all change cox is planning to use passport on all boxes no date has been anounced yet.

In addition to the Science Channel and Travel Channel HD. It looks like we will be getting the east coast feed of HBO, Cinemax, SHO and Starz, KCET HD and the NHL network HD.
These were listed as coming soon in a Cox ad in the register today.

I just got an email regarding this as well. Once NHL Network goes live I can quit crying about having to leave DirecTV. That is the only channel I REALLY miss. Thanks, Cox!

It looks like we will be getting the east coast feed of HBO, Cinemax, SHO and Starz
Got that today, too. Great (this would have been even better before "The Wire" and "The Sopranos" went off the air, though :))

That will bring cox up to 43 channels...not too bad

well bad if u consider how many repeats and worthless ones we have KCOP, HBO duplicates, FSN HD only.

D* has 90 including locals, Dish has 60 including locals.

Getting there I suppose.

I just got an email regarding this as well. Once NHL Network goes live I can quit crying about having to leave DirecTV. That is the only channel I REALLY miss. Thanks, Cox!
I got that email today, too, I was all excited to see the new channels when I got home (RSM), but they were not there. Then I get this email a few minutes ago:

"RECALL ON THIS MESSAGE

March 18, 2008

Dear Valued Customer,

Recently you received an incorrect email notification regarding the availability of High Definition channels in your area. We apologize for any confusion and ask that you refer to our website for updated information.

Sincerely,
Your Friends at Cox"

But I don't HAVE any friends at Cox! F-ing teases

So does that mean COX lied to us??? That makes me very irate. If COX wants to do something in order to make me not jump to Directv, they better have at least 55 channels by Summer.

So does that mean COX lied to us?
Oh, calm down- it was a simple mistake and they've immediately retracted it.

Oh, calm down- it was a simple mistake and they've immediately retracted it.

NO. Them be Liars!!! Get the torches!!! LYNCH MOB!!!

Discovery Channel HD
KCBS-TV
KNBC
ABC7
KCAL9
TNT
TLC
Animal PLanet HD
Ktla CW
TBS HD
Universal HD
KOCE
National Geographic HD
Food HD
NFL HD
Fox 11
MHD
MOJO
My TV 13
FSN HD
History Channel HD
CNN HD
HGTV
A&E HD
ESPN HD
ESPN 2 HD
KCET HD
Travel Channel HD
Science Channel HD
NHL HD
Golf Channel HD
VS HD
HBO HD West
HBO HD East
Cinemax HD West
Cinemax HD East
Showtime HD West
SHowtime HD East
Starz HD West
Starz HD East
HDNET
HDNET Movies
Discovery HD Theater

Unless the east coast feeds of those channels are 5c copy free then they are worthless to me.

Unless the east coast feeds of those channels are 5c copy free then they are worthless to me. It's been a free HBO preview weekend. 1st time in years I've checked out HBO. Boy looks like I haven't missed anything and not too impressed with HBO HD quality. However, every show I have checked out thus far on HBOHD (700) has had CCI=0x0 and I am able to use Multi Room Viewing with my Tivos and transfer shows to my PC.

Doesn't seem like the Moto box is allowing any recording or viewing over firewire for HBOHD. And ever since the software upgrade viewing recorded shows from HBO or Showtime play for a couple seconds and then stop in VLC player. CapDVHS will start recording every time but it will only record the first 3-4 seconds and the rest of the file is corrupt garbage. Very disappointing. I thought the 5c was gone for a little while.

well bad if u consider how many repeats and worthless ones we have KCOP, HBO duplicates, FSN HD only.

D* has 90 including locals, Dish has 60 including locals.

Getting there I suppose.


Yeah, but your local HD ones are not true HD......Until they fix that I don't count them, even if they have my #1 HD want...SpeedHD!

It's been a free HBO preview weekend. 1st time in years I've checked out HBO. Boy looks like I haven't missed anything and not too impressed with HBO HD quality.Wow, gotta disagree with you there. The HBO HD quality may be mediocre, but their shows are routinely outstanding. Right now they are just finishing up a series called "In Treatment" which in my opinion is fantastic and is the kind of TV you don't get anywhere else. They also have this series "John Adams" going on right now with Paul Giamotti which is pretty good. And how could anyone have not been a Sopranos fan? :)

well, its near the end of the month again and (as we expected) Cox has again pushed their HD rollout schedule out another month, so Orange, Tustin and Santa Ana are now April rather than March (rather than February, rather than January, etc.).

Sigh, I guess its time to revisit the alternatives, such as they are.

Bastards! They pushed out Foothill Ranch from March to April a few months ago, and then today to June!

Oh well, I guess I'm screwed anyways until they release a tuning resolver....

And how could anyone have not been a Sopranos fan? :)
... they watched the series finale episode first?

Cox shut off my service for about 60 minutes today for scheduled upgrades. That at least is a good sign.

Since the software upgrade about a month ago, has anyone else noticed a problem with closed captions? When they're on the bottom of the screen, at least in HD, the bottom half of the characters are cut off because they are too far down on the screen. This started happening right after the upgrade, and I can't find any tweak that moves the captions further up.

I do not use CC...unless I am watching a British movie then I do

Since the software upgrade about a month ago, has anyone else noticed a problem with closed captions?
Yes, and it's annoying 'cause when I'm in the office I sometimes have the sound turned quite a ways down and use the CCs and now the bottom line is hard to read. :mad:

Since the software upgrade about a month ago, has anyone else noticed a problem with closed captions?

don't use cc very often, but gave it a try. no problems from what I can see and I tried multiple channels. could it be an overscan issue with your TVs?

could it be an overscan issue with your TVs?
It happens on my 733P LCDs, but not on my 1080P LCD - both of the connected DVRs are set for "output 1080i". I think the scaling code in the new revisions isn't set up right, so maybe I'll set the 720Ps to "output 720".

strange. I don't see the issue on my 720p plasma or projector, nor on my Mits 1080i rear screen - and those use two different model boxes. they are all set to 1080i though

CC were working fine until the upgrade. I have a Panny plasma, it's not overscanning that I can tell, and I'm using the 1080i HDMI out. I'm pretty sure it's the upgrade, that is when it started. I use CC at night sometimes when I don't want to wake the kids.

yes, I, too, have a Panny plasma, and do not see an issue. Which Moto box do you have? I have the DCH3416 hooked up to my Mits rear screen and Panny PJ and the DCT64xx hooked up to my Panny plasma.

I have the DCH3412 hooked up to it.

Still rustin' in Tustin...

Not rustin' in Tustin anymore. Just got the expanded HD channels yesterday, i.e., FoodHD, NatGeoHD, DiscoveryHD, etc.

Not rustin' in Tustin anymore. Just got the expanded HD channels yesterday, i.e., FoodHD, NatGeoHD, DiscoveryHD, etc.

the long wait is over; I also got the expanded HD channels today. whoo-hoo

Just got them today as well. Whoo hoo! Now all we need is USA-HD and I'll be happy.

Wow, just got a message from my Tivos that a whole bunch of channels were added, including several HD ones:
115 CSPAN
116 CSPAN2
117 CSPAN3
118 COXCAL
333 NHLNET

701 HBOHD (East feed)
706 KCETDT (The real PBS)
725 MAXHD (East feed)
732 SCIHD !!!
741 SHOWHD (East feed)
753 TRAVHD
761 NHLHD
782 STARZHD (East feed)
798 GAMEHD
799 HDPPV

980 IWTHR
996 IKZONE
997 INEWS
998 ISPORT

Of course I can't tune any of these with my Tivos even though the guide listings are all there. I assume this indicates that Switched Digital Video (SDV) is either just deployed or getting very close to being deployed. 732=SCIHD is one that I've been wanting for a long time -- I really hope it doesn't go under SDV set of channels... The fact that I can't tune 706 (which should not be under SDV) indicates these are probably not meant to go live just yet, but you people with Cox boxes can try tuning these.

P.S. The reason why these channels showed up for me today is because zap2it.com listings had all these additions recently and that is where Tivo gets guide data from. Certainly indicates their release is imminent.

/me can wait for SciHD and CSPAN
/me is sarcastic about CSPAN

Just got them today as well. Whoo hoo! Now all we need is USA-HD and I'll be happy.


Still nothing in Trabuco Canyon....... :confused:

Bastards! They pushed out Foothill Ranch from March to April a few months ago, and then today to June!



Yeah and it will get to June and they will push us out again..... tired of hearing my direct tv friends telling me what channels they already have........

None in Palos Verdes either. But I talked with a COX representative and was told the new channels will come within the next week or two.

I am guessing GAMEHD is for MLB? That is nice actually.

RSM pushed back from April to June...

Wow, just got a message from my Tivos that a whole bunch of channels were added, including several HD ones:
115 CSPAN
116 CSPAN2
117 CSPAN3
118 COXCAL
333 NHLNET

701 HBOHD (East feed)
706 KCETDT (The real PBS)
725 MAXHD (East feed)
732 SCIHD !!!
741 SHOWHD (East feed)
753 TRAVHD
761 NHLHD
782 STARZHD (East feed)
798 GAMEHD
799 HDPPV

980 IWTHR
996 IKZONE
997 INEWS
998 ISPORT



that's interesting; personally I wish they would add some of the other Starz channels than just provide both east and west feeds but its probably contractual issues. Although it is convenient to have both feeds sometimes to watch a program 3 hours earlier.

FWIW - when I got the new HD stations a couple of days ago they only showed up on one of my 2 HD stbs; I tried manually rebooting the second one but that didn't work so called Cox service and they rebooted the second one and then the new stations were there.

There's been some discussion on DirectTV thread about soon getting some of the Disney channels in hd (eg abc family, disney and toondisney) - has anyone heard anything about Cox providing these?

I am guessing GAMEHD is for MLB? That is nice actually.

I am not sure, but I think its the HD version of the Game Channel which shows reruns of The Price is Right, Hollywood Squares, etc.

I am not sure, but I think its the HD version of the Game Channel which shows reruns of The Price is Right, Hollywood Squares, etc.

nope that would bs GSNHD GameHD is for mlb extra Innings

I dont see any of the new HD channels yet. I reset my box but that didnt change anything. I wish they would have added some of the other premium HD channels like Starz Comedy HD and not just the east coast feeds of the ones we already have. But I got to admit I am very happy and excited to hear about 732 SCIHD. For years I have avoided the scifi channel because of its horrible picture quality and incessant advertising.

I just wish titantv would have the listings for the HD channels that we already have (hdnet, hdnet movies, MHD, etc..) Having reminders has always been very useful. I sent them an email a long time ago but nothing came of it.

But I got to admit I am very happy and excited to hear about 732 SCIHD. For years I have avoided the scifi channel because of its horrible picture quality and incessant advertising.


Unfortunately, I think SCIHD is the Science Channel HD, not SciFi HD.

Unfortunately, I think SCIHD is the Science Channel HD, not SciFi HD.You are right. Just looked at the SCIHD listings on my Tivo and it matches those of channel 101=SCIENCE, so it's definitely not SciFi HD. Oh well, so I guess there aren't any exciting additions to speak of except perhaps the real PBS channel.
USAHD and SCIFIHD are the 2 left that I would really like...

Very interesting... The 8 HD channels that were previously not available to OC CableCard customers all of a sudden now do work:
CNNHD, DSCHD, GOLFVS, NFLHD, TLCHD, FOODHP, HGTVD, HSTRYHD.
Perhaps in light of the Orlando FL BrightHouse Networks fiasco (they got hell and bad publicity from a vocal group of Tivo customers for blocking channels from CableCard customers even though SDV is not yet deployed) Cox changed their policy on blocking out CableCard customers in preparation for SDV.

I'm getting a "No signal" from my sony DVR.
It used to show a static multi colored image when the station is not broadcasting.

Can anybody with Cablecard check?

Very interesting... The 8 HD channels that were previously not available to OC CableCard customers all of a sudden now do work:
CNNHD, DSCHD, GOLFVS, NFLHD, TLCHD, FOODHP, HGTVD, HSTRYHD.
Perhaps in light of the Orlando FL BrightHouse Networks fiasco (they got hell and bad publicity from a vocal group of Tivo customers for blocking channels from CableCard customers even though SDV is not yet deployed) Cox changed their policy on blocking out CableCard customers in preparation for SDV.

I'll have to check it out when I get home. Although I'm not expecting to see anything, as my area got pushed out from April to June....

I'm getting a "No signal" from my sony DVR.
It used to show a static multi colored image when the station is not broadcasting.

Can anybody with Cablecard check? I just confirmed (via Slingbox) that I CANNOT TUNE 763 with my Tivos. I hope it's not a permanent thing as I record Lakers games from that channel all the time and it had been working great!

EDIT: On further investigation I checked out my Tivo Diagnostics page and see that channel 763 is actually still tuning to a frequency, so it's not like it's been removed from the CableCard channel mappings at least - so looks like there is simply nothing broadcasting on that channel right now instead of the usual color bars. (Someone with a Cox box probably will just see a black screen as well right now.)

Did SDV go live today? I remember hearing 4/8 was the day.

Yes 763 is blacked out on the Cox boxes.

I am also frustrated the Angels are on 713, but they aren't showing it in HD, what is the point of 713 at all?!

I'll have to check it out when I get home. Although I'm not expecting to see anything, as my area got pushed out from April to June....

Amazingly enough, I got the updated channels in Foothill Ranch on my TivoHD. Lets hope this lasts....

I started getting a few new channels on my TiVo HD with 2x Cable Cards: CNNHD (714), DSCHD (721), GOLFVS (723), TLCHD (754), FOODHD (756), HGTVD (757), and HSTRYHD (762).

Oddly enough, KCETDT (706) no longer works. This was fine a few weeks ago.

If any of you guys have Travel channel in HD, could you tell me how good the HD content is? I'm under the impression theat most of the programming utilizes true Hd while some are unfortunately in stretch-o-vision.

Yes 763 is blacked out on the Cox boxes.

I am also frustrated the Angels are on 713, but they aren't showing it in HD, what is the point of 713 at all?!

From what I can tell, 713 (KCOP) does not broadcast any games in HD this year. So, yes it does seem a bit of a waste to have the channel. The picture is a tad bit better than on 13, but nothing great. I guess KCOP is not up to HD standards yet. I got the Angel info from one of the papers websites. FSN is broadcasting 75 games this year in HD for the Angels.

Here is a link to MLB HD info:

http://www.hdsportsguide.com/news/2008/mlb-regional-schedules/

Looks like the Dodgers still rule LA in HD Programming (for Baseball) and the Lakers for Basketball.

Bob in Mission Viejo

Very interesting... The 8 HD channels that were previously not available to OC CableCard customers all of a sudden now do work:
CNNHD, DSCHD, GOLFVS, NFLHD, TLCHD, FOODHP, HGTVD, HSTRYHD.
Perhaps in light of the Orlando FL BrightHouse Networks fiasco (they got hell and bad publicity from a vocal group of Tivo customers for blocking channels from CableCard customers even though SDV is not yet deployed) Cox changed their policy on blocking out CableCard customers in preparation for SDV.


Great news! I'll need to check it out when I get home. I had removed those channels from my lineup so my Tivo wouldn't try to record from them.

Seems like SDV went live. I lost G4 yesterday as expected. Unless they are just blocking it in anticipation.

Am I only the only one here annoyed living in Lake Forest that I can't watch the NHL playoffs in HD because we don't get VERSUS in HD? And apparently I won't get it until October of this year, the last city in the whole county with Laguna Beach. What a rip.

Am I only the only one here annoyed living in Lake Forest that I can't watch the NHL playoffs in HD because we don't get VERSUS in HD? And apparently I won't get it until October of this year, the last city in the whole county with Laguna Beach. What a rip.
Have you checked it? GOLFVS HD went live for me yesterday in Foothill Ranch, even though the updated date for my area is June.

btw, this is not an invite to come over to watch the games at my place ;)

Have you checked it? GOLFVS HD went live for me yesterday in Foothill Ranch, even though the updated date for my area is June.

btw, this is not an invite to come over to watch the games at my place ;)

Haha :D, ya I checked it last night, but thats encouraging that it might launch earlier, maybe by the next round

Have you checked it? GOLFVS HD went live for me yesterday in Foothill Ranch, even though the updated date for my area is June.

btw, this is not an invite to come over to watch the games at my place ;)


I'm in Trabuco Canyon / P/Hills and nothing still....

I just confirmed (via Slingbox) that I CANNOT TUNE 763 with my Tivos. I hope it's not a permanent thing as I record Lakers games from that channel all the time and it had been working great!

EDIT: On further investigation I checked out my Tivo Diagnostics page and see that channel 763 is actually still tuning to a frequency, so it's not like it's been removed from the CableCard channel mappings at least - so looks like there is simply nothing broadcasting on that channel right now instead of the usual color bars. (Someone with a Cox box probably will just see a black screen as well right now.) FYI, 763 is back to it's usual color bars now...

Seems like SDV went live. I lost G4 yesterday as expected. Unless they are just blocking it in anticipation. I suspect CableCard users will find out the hard way when SDV is deployed when several channels will no longer tune.
Also, hate the thought of it, but I suspect most if not all digital simulcast channels will revert to the analog versions for CableCard users. At least that's apparently going to be the case in Cox Norfolk, VA market. See:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13590209#post13590209
Anyone want to give me a big I told you so?

On Thursday morning, April 10, the CableCARD Channel Lineup will change to include channels launched since November 15.

In the future, as SDV is implemented, some channels will likely be removed from the CableCARD lineup such as select digital channels with low viewership. Digital simulcast channels will be replaced with an analog version.
Above post also indicates a change in Cox policy recently about blocking channels from CableCard users before SDV is deployed which probably explains why we they were enabled in our market recently.

I'm quite confused as to how cox picks new HD channel availability...

Why in the world would they roll out Science Channel HD, Home & Garden...or GOLF TV...when they are missing channels with 100+ times the viewer base in SCI-FI HD, USA-HD, FX-HD, etc...

We know the HD feeds for these channels exist so why they hell is cox rolling out channels with ultra low viewership when they have customers fleeing to direct tv's HD offering on a daily basis?!?

...the rantings of an annoyed cox cable customer in Irvine.

On the bright side they turned on all those new HD channels that they were holding back from cable card customers. YEY, only took 4 months of bitching & complaining :)

I'm going to see what COX does between now and the middle of July. If they want me to remain a loyal customer, they better get the following HD channels to go live: ESPNews HD, SCI FI HD, USA HD, Speed HD, FOX News Channel HD, Disney Channel HD, Smithsonian HD, Outdoor Channel HD, FX HD, Wealth HD, Toon Disney HD, Weather Channel HD, and Biography HD.
If nothing occurs by then, consider me up and gone to Satellite.

I'm quite confused as to how cox picks new HD channel availability...

Why in the world would they roll out Science Channel HD, Home & Garden...or GOLF TV...when they are missing channels with 100+ times the viewer base in SCI-FI HD, USA-HD, FX-HD, etc...

We know the HD feeds for these channels exist so why they hell is cox rolling out channels with ultra low viewership when they have customers fleeing to direct tv's HD offering on a daily basis?!?

...the rantings of an annoyed cox cable customer in Irvine.

On the bright side they turned on all those new HD channels that they were holding back from cable card customers. YEY, only took 4 months of bitching & complaining :)

if it's the same as in the Omaha system they say the hd channels are added when people request them.

Well, then everyone should request them:
https://www.cox.com/support/ocpv/emailchat/emailus.asp

My message:

Hello -- while I appreciate that you are increasing your HD
channel offerings, I am confused as to why you continue to roll out
niche channels (Golf, Science Channel) while ignoring the general
entertainment channels available on satellite, such as FX-HD, USA-HD,
and SCI-FI-HD. I hope you will be adding these soon rather than more
niche specialty channels.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

About what I expected, but here's the response:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Lynn,

Thank you for contacting our Online Customer Care Team.

Your request for FX HD, USA HD and SCI-FI HD has been submitted to our
Marketing department. We are always actively negotiating contracts for
new channels, and this applies to HD channels as well. Our Marketing
department keeps track of all channels requested by our customers. We
use that list in our consideration for adding new channels. Your voice
matters and does play a part in our decision making. Of course, this
will not guarantee the channel will be added, as there are many
considerations, but your feedback is very important to us.

Thank you for being a valued Cox customer and allowing us to assist you
via cox.com.

Sincerely,
Brenda
Cox Communications - Customer Care
Online Support Team

that's the same response we get in Omaha

That's the boilerplate response that they always send for any new channel requests and makes you wonder if such requests are even consolidated and reviewed. I think contractual obligations more than anything drive additions of most of these less desirable additions. The premium HD east feeds for example are a complete waste of bandwidth IMO but they are forced to carry them no doubt before they can add other channels. Probably doesn't help too that the more popular channels cost more money to carry...

Calling channels like Showtime "premium" is laughable at this point.

Calling channels like Showtime "premium" is laughable at this point. Well they certainly command a "premium" price still if nothing else. :D Personally I haven't subscribed to premium channels in over 10 years. Netflix/Blockbuster monthly plans more than fill my needs for movies (and series in some cases) and at much better quality.

Well they certainly command a "premium" price still if nothing else. :D Personally I haven't subscribed to premium channels in over 10 years. Netflix/Blockbuster monthly plans more than fill my needs for movies (and series in some cases) and at much better quality.

I agree, I use Blockbuster as of right now, and for the monthly fee I get my choice of movies and as Moyekj said at better quality. I have never got premium channels or used Cox's In-Demand service. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Bob in Mission Viejo

Well they certainly command a "premium" price still if nothing else. :D Personally I haven't subscribed to premium channels in over 10 years. Netflix/Blockbuster monthly plans more than fill my needs for movies (and series in some cases) and at much better quality.

I'm confused, how can a 480p DVD have better quality than a 1080i HD picture? Or did you mean some other measure of quality? Blu-Ray?

I'm confused, how can a 480p DVD have better quality than a 1080i HD picture? Or did you mean some other measure of quality? Blu-Ray? Blu-Ray without question is king of quality. However, sad to say but I also find that a high quality DVD is better than most of the HD broadcasts out there (720p or 1080i) and certainly better than all 480i broadcasts. Too often even HD broadcasts suffer from bit starving or motion artifacting (just poor encoding), things that I don't notice often on quality DVDs. Granted I've also seen my share of poor quality DVDs as well, but more often than not I am stunned at how well it looks compared to my normal TV viewing (which is mostly HD).
I've done enough comparisons comparing OTA HD broadcast to what Cox OC provides and found that the Cox broadcasts are very marginally worse than the OTA ones (slightly lower bitrate), so I don't think it's Cox to blame but the original broadcasts they are receiving.

So I came home from work to turn on the television. Whadda you know!!!! The new HD channels arrived: Travel Channel HD, Science Channel HD, NHL Network HD along with 3 east coast feeds of HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax, followed by HD PPV and Gameplay HD The HD East coast channels don't seem to work,though. But I've been dying to get Travel HD since its debut in January.
Still waiting for several more HD channels in the near future. But today, I'm quite a giddy person.

So I came home from work to turn on the television. Whadda you know!!!! The new HD channels arrived: Travel Channel HD, Science Channel HD, NHL Network HD along with 3 east coast feeds of HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax, followed by HD PPV and Gameplay HD The HD East coast channels don't seem to work,though. But I've been dying to get Travel HD since its debut in January.
Still waiting for several more HD channels in the near future. But today, I'm quite a giddy person.

what city are you in?

what city are you in? Based on previous posts looks like Palos Verdes.

Blu-Ray without question is king of quality. However, sad to say but I also find that a high quality DVD is better than most of the HD broadcasts out there (720p or 1080i) and certainly better than all 480i broadcasts. Too often even HD broadcasts suffer from bit starving or motion artifacting (just poor encoding), things that I don't notice often on quality DVDs. Granted I've also seen my share of poor quality DVDs as well, but more often than not I am stunned at how well it looks compared to my normal TV viewing (which is mostly HD).
I've done enough comparisons comparing OTA HD broadcast to what Cox OC provides and found that the Cox broadcasts are very marginally worse than the OTA ones (slightly lower bitrate), so I don't think it's Cox to blame but the original broadcasts they are receiving.

I guess I just blindly assumed that a HBO or Showtime HD movie on Cox would be higher quality than a DVD. I know that some broadcasts are better than others because ESPNHD on Cox is able to blow me away with their picture quality while KCOE, not so much.

Have you done an analysis of HBO, Showtime and ESPNHD as far as bit rate etc.? I'd be curious to know how they stack up.

Have you done an analysis of HBO, Showtime and ESPNHD as far as bit rate etc.? I'd be curious to know how they stack up. No, I can only do it for the HD channels that I can tune over the air and via Cox. What I have done is record on my Tivo the OTA version of an HD program on 1 tuner and the Cox version on the other tuner at the same time and then compare the final total file sizes of the recordings. From my (somewhat limited) testing in general the Cox versions were slightly smaller in size compared to the OTA versions, though in a couple of instances I actually had the opposite be true which was a little surprising. From what I recall there was less than 5% difference in most cases.

So am here in Tustin and have been receiving the new HD channels for almost two weeks, I get home, bring up the guide and all the new channels are MISSING. I'm only getting the old channels. wtf? Call tech service, they reset the box twice, nothing. they're sending a tech tomorrow. Anyone else missing the new HD channels in this area?

Nope. I am still receiving the channels in Tustin.

Yep, lost them yesterday. Dunno about today.

Located at Columbus Grove. (Major cross streets: Harvard & Warner Ave.)

Edit (4/16, 6pm): Yep still missing the channels :(

Here's a weird one. Ever since 4/8, my Tivo cannot tune G4 (366), but my Media Center PC with CableCard can.

Given that 4/8 was the date Cox said G4 would move to SDV, it's bizarre that my PC can still tune it.

Are people still receiving G4 on Tivo?

Here's a weird one. Ever since 4/8, my Tivo cannot tune G4 (366), but my Media Center PC with CableCard can.

Given that 4/8 was the date Cox said G4 would move to SDV, it's bizarre that my PC can still tune it.

Are people still receiving G4 on Tivo? Can't tune 366 on my Tivos either (the channel is not mapped to any frequency).

Can't tune 366 on my Tivos either (the channel is not mapped to any frequency).

Any idea how Media Center w/ CableCard is able to tune it?

Any idea how Media Center w/ CableCard is able to tune it? If I had to guess, somehow that CableCard did not get the channel mapping update while your Tivo CableCard(s) did.

Does anyone have any info on the release of the tuning resolver for Cox OC? Were getting very close to the end of Q2 08 and I'm tired of not getting some of the channels we pay for... :mad:

Does anyone have any info on the release of the tuning resolver for Cox OC? Were getting very close to the end of Q2 08 and I'm tired of not getting some of the channels we pay for... :mad: Most of the channels previously not available to CableCard customers were recently added (at least all the HD channels), so currently SDV is not really an issue. If/when SDV is actually deployed that could change very quickly. I wouldn't hold my breath on getting the tuning adapter any time this year unfortunately...

Most of the channels previously not available to CableCard customers were recently added (at least all the HD channels), so currently SDV is not really an issue. If/when SDV is actually deployed that could change very quickly. I wouldn't hold my breath on getting the tuning adapter any time this year unfortunately...

Well it is an issue for me unfortunately since it has been at least partially deployed. Several of the shows I like to TiVo are on G4 and, as of the 8th, I no longer get that channel along with the rest of the SDV channels on the letter they sent out.

The new hd channels (KCET, Science, Travel, east feeds for hbo, etc) were on my system this morning.

The new hd channels (KCET, Science, Travel, east feeds for hbo, etc) were on my system this morning. Yep, mine too, but some of them don't tune (evidently blocked out for SDV).

Some good news on the SDV tuning adapter front:
http://connectedhome2go.com/2008/04/17/motorola-tuning-resolver-flies-through-cablelabs-interop/

http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/04/18/cablecard-sdv-and-the-tuning-resolver/
Mari Silbey of Motorola reports that Motorola’s Tuning Resolver implementation, now officially the MTR700, has sailed through CableLabs interoperability testing ‘with flying colors’. The next step is CableLabs certification testing with product submission in April in preparation for the certification board meeting in June. So, presuming the device gets certified, it will be ready at the end of June. Which means it would be very unlikely to make the 2Q2008 release schedule, but will probably be available in early 3Q08. Motorola will be exhibiting the MTR700 at The Cable Show in New Orleans in May. While it may not seem that way to those awaiting a solution, the development of the Tuning Resolver has been extremely fast for a new piece of hardware. The cable industry is really fast-tracking development to get the Tuning Resolver out there as fast as possible. Now it is up to the consumer electronics industry to provide compatible firmware for CableCARD devices with USB ports. (TiVo is, of course, already on board.)

706 (kcet), 741 (showtime east) and 761 (NHL) started working today in foothill ranch on my tivoHD. Nothing else...

Yep, mine too, but some of them don't tune (evidently blocked out for SDV).

Could be SDV, but is affecting boxes, too. I see all the latest channels in the guide, but a seemingly random few don't tune. The only two that I even care about (and that is remote, at best) are TravelHD and ScienceHD. I never really watched those two on SD very often, but at least science interests me and the TravelHD will be good background visuals. Come to think of it, KCETHD is okay, too. I have always been disappointed in KOCEHD, so I guess it's nice to get a more "mainstream" public broadcasting channel - even if I don't watch it very often.

I certainly understand how Cox, contractually, has to provide channels that may not be the most popular, but the premium east coast feeds are really of very little benefit, at least to me. I would assume most customers who receive these channels are using a DVR or CableCard type recording device (e.g. TiVo) and, therefore, are able to record the premium shows. In other words, most of us timeshift, so I don't really see much value to us. Oh well, glad to see they are at least really giving it a try to add more channels.

Could be SDV, but is affecting boxes, too. I see all the latest channels in the guide, but a seemingly random few don't tune. The only two that I even care about (and that is remote, at best) are TravelHD and ScienceHD. I never really watched those two on SD very often, but at least science interests me and the TravelHD will be good background visuals. Come to think of it, KCETHD is okay, too. I have always been disappointed in KOCEHD, so I guess it's nice to get a more "mainstream" public broadcasting channel - even if I don't watch it very often.

I certainly understand how Cox, contractually, has to provide channels that may not be the most popular, but the premium east coast feeds are really of very little benefit, at least to me. I would assume most customers who receive these channels are using a DVR or CableCard type recording device (e.g. TiVo) and, therefore, are able to record the premium shows. In other words, most of us timeshift, so I don't really see much value to us. Oh well, glad to see they are at least really giving it a try to add more channels.

well, maybe the east feeds are pretty cheap to add on and it does bump their hd count up a little :). I didn't initially tune in the channels, just saw them on the guide this morning, but it looks as if they are all working except for Science and HBO east. Nothing is showing up on HD PPV (not that I would use it anyway, but I do still several free movie coupons, so was hoping to try the HD films). KCET (as well as the other "locals") are convenient, but I get them quite well ota so don't really need them; would prefer that they add others such as SciFi, FX, etc. - even abc family.

Nothing is showing up on HD PPV (not that I would use it anyway, but I do still several free movie coupons, so was hoping to try the HD films.

Any idea on what the pricing will be? Assuming the quality is there and the pricing is reasonable, I may actually watch a PPV HD movie from time to time. I, too, have the five free offer, but did notice that it is only good for movies $1.95 to $3.95. I have no doubt that the HD PPV movies will be higher than $3.95, so hopefully it'll only be a buck more and they'll just apply the $3.95 towards it.

I'm a little bummed that they are doing the old-school method of PPV vs. PPV on demand. Being at the mercy of someone elses scheduling is quite antiquated, and having only one channel makes it that much words. I actually do watch an on-demand PPV movie occassionally, but the quality is horrible, so it only works for movies I may not otherwise have watched on DVD or BD. I imagine eventually they will do HD PPV on demand, but who knows when that will be implemented. At least they are trying.

Nothing is showing up on HD PPV (not that I would use it anyway, but I do still several free movie coupons, so was hoping to try the HD films).

After looking at the Cox site more closely, it looks like the free coupons are only good for on demand, not PPV, but who knows, maybe they will allow it.

After looking at the Cox site more closely, it looks like the free coupons are only good for on demand, not PPV, but who knows, maybe they will allow it.

that would be too bad; well its worth a try. I too wish they would add HD Ondemand capability - seems like it would be a good marketing point. Actually that one has now disappeared from my guide (ie channel 799) but ScienceHD now works.

Well it looks like my area has received the new HD channels. SCI HD, Starz HD East, Showtime HD East, Cinemax HD East, etc... It also looks like those TEST channels are now active. I can view 6 programs at once when I go to Sportz 998. They also added a channel called iWEATHER. It displays the local weather info with a small picture in the top right corner displaying the last channel you watched.

The downside it is that it appears the new HD movie channels are protected. That wouldnt be so bad except that CinemaxHD ,StarzHD, and HDNET MOVIES were firewire viewable/recordable since they launched. Since the additions they dont work. Very disappointing. I will be emailing Cox but I doubt it will change anything.:mad:

... They also added a channel called iWEATHER. It displays the local weather info with a small picture in the top right corner displaying the last channel you watched..


those test channels are interesting; I didn't see the Weather channel you mentioned though - which channel number is it?

those test channels are interesting; I didn't see the Weather channel you mentioned though - which channel number is it?

980

980
thanks; that doesn't actually show up in my guide.

Additional note on the test channels - it would be pretty cool if you could configure your own set of 6 channels to show!

WTF -- I am getting a subscription error on the new HBO-E HD (701). Showtime HD east works fine, but not HBO.

WTF -- I am getting a subscription error on the new HBO-E HD (701). Showtime HD east works fine, but not HBO.

me too; the east feeds all work except HBO.

The one East coast feed I don't get is Starz in HD. I also have a problem with Cinemax East. It's not about the picture. Rather, it's the fact that since it's an east coast feed, that means they show their adult content during the primetime hours. I personally find it tasteless and may very well drop Cinemax altogether because of that.

Just got upgraded to the new Moto DCH 3416 box, and the red light or indicator on the info panel of the box does not come on when the DVR is recording a show. Does anyone else have this problem?

BTW, this unit is hooked up to my sysem via an Onkyo 705 using HDMI, and there is also a direct by-pass directly to my Sony XBR LCD using color component cables.

The indicators on the right of the display showing format/resolution come on just fine. The indicators on the left side (left of the time/channel) do not come on at all. I have two boxes and it is the same for both.

Help.

Best Regards,
Larry

Just got upgraded to the new Moto DCH 3416 box, and the red light or indicator on the info panel of the box does not come on when the DVR is recording a show. Does anyone else have this problem?

BTW, this unit is hooked up to my sysem via an Onkyo 705 using HDMI, and there is also a direct by-pass directly to my Sony XBR LCD using color component cables.

The indicators on the right of the display showing format/resolution come on just fine. The indicators on the left side (left of the time/channel) do not come on at all. I have two boxes and it is the same for both.

Help.

Best Regards,
Larry


it's a known issue in the comcast avsforum. the DCH need a firmware update.

is anyone else not getting versus right now?

I'm in Aliso and I have all the new HD channels except HBO HD East. Can abody view that channel or do you get the subscription message.

The one East coast feed I don't get is Starz in HD. I also have a problem with Cinemax East. It's not about the picture. Rather, it's the fact that since it's an east coast feed, that means they show their adult content during the primetime hours. I personally find it tasteless and may very well drop Cinemax altogether because of that.

I understand what you are saying, but isn't this the same issue you would already have with the SD Cinemax channels, 223, 224, 225, etc?

Channel 701 HBO HD East isnt in my guide. But when I type in 701 using my remote I can view the channel.

701 is in my guide but when I tune to the channel i get the subscription notice, even though I have HBO. I called cox and they said it was a soft launch and the new channels are scheduled for April 30th. I guess I will complain some more if it doesn't work by then.

FYI, I sent the following email to Cox OC now that Motorola has released a definitive prototype of the "tuning adapter" which will solve the SDV issue for UDCPs such as CableCard Tivos.
Cox Orange County is scheduled to be deploying Switched Digital Video (SDV) shortly. As you know this causes problems for Unidirectional Digital Cable Products (UDCP) that don't have the ability to communicate back to the headend to request channel frequencies. I have 2 Tivo Series 3 DVRs that will have this problem and I know several other people in Cox Orange County with Tivo DVRs as well. Tivo and others have worked closely with Cablelabs to solve this problem by creating a "Tuning Adapter". Motorola already has a prototype of this adapter ready which will be available sometime this summer (summer 2008). For example, refer to:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/21/motorolas-mtr700-tuning-resolver-edges-closer-to-release/

Is Cox Orange County aware of this tuning resolver and are there plans to make such a device available to select CableCard Tivo customers in Orange County once Motorola has officially released them?
Here is the response:
Hello Kevin,

Thank you for your email. Cox is aware of the new devices that Motorola
has in development, including a new 2 way interactive cable card. Until
these become available, Cox is offering to rent our digital cable boxes
for $1.99 per month, which will allow full 2 way interactivity.

We hope that we have been able to provide you with the information you
requested. If we have not, or if we can be of any additional service to
you, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Sincerely,
Kenneth
Technical Support
SDCCC
Cox Communications - Video/Telephony Tech Support
Online Support Team
I would encourage anyone else in OC with CableCard Tivos to send a similar email to Cox OC to raise the attention level about it. I have already sent a follow up email asking for confirmation of Cox OC commitment to support the Motorola MTR700 tuning resolver when released.

701 is in my guide but when I tune to the channel i get the subscription notice, even though I have HBO. I called cox and they said it was a soft launch and the new channels are scheduled for April 30th. I guess I will complain some more if it doesn't work by then.

701 started working for me yesterday evening

Cox OK is slated to have SciFi HD & USA HD soon according to their website:
http://www.cox.com/Oklahoma/hdtv/hdchannels.asp
So this gives hope that OC won't be far behind.

Cox OK is slated to have SciFi HD & USA HD soon according to their website:
http://www.cox.com/Oklahoma/hdtv/hdchannels.asp
So this gives hope that OC won't be far behind.

don't get your hopes up Omaha was promised Travel channel HD,Starz HD and Cinemax HD by March, but they have launched yet not even a new date has been announced.

FWIW, the follow up response from Cox Orange County on commitment to provide tuning adapter. No firm commitment given, but shows promise that Cox OC is willing to work with customers on this issue.
Hello Kevin,
Thank you for your reply. Once third party 2 way cable card devices
and/or adapters are released, we will be able provide SDV channels to
our cable card customers. We don't have any word yet on whether they
will be provided by Cox for rent or purchase or if they will be a third
party purchased item.

Has anyone received a notice in the mail about receiving a replacement cable modem? I do not lease mine and I've had it for about 5 years now. What are the technical reasons for such a change?

Dear ..., We hope you are enjoying the fast and reliable service you are receiving from Cox High Speed Internet. In order to guarantee that you experience no disruption in your service, there is something we need you to do as quickly as possible. We need you to contact us to receive a replacement modem. This new modem is required for continued service. Act today to avoid disruption in your high-speed Internet service.

701 started working for me today as well.