They replaced my modem 2 months ago, they are switching to a new docsis 2, even though 3 is out. what is funny is my reg modem broke and i asked for a new one and it was 200 dollars, but then it arrived and was free, with no lease charges.

I noticed that Cox in Oklahoma area has announced several "coming soon" HD channels on their programming page (http://cox.com/oklahoma/hdtv/hdchannels.asp):

USA HD (732)
Sci-Fi HD (752)
Lifetime HD (759)
Bravo HD (763)
CNBC HD (784)
Weather Channel HD (785)

Maybe we'll get these also!

I noticed that Cox in Oklahoma area has announced several "coming soon" HD channels on their programming page (http://cox.com/oklahoma/hdtv/hdchannels.asp):

USA HD (732)
Sci-Fi HD (752)
Lifetime HD (759)
Bravo HD (763)
CNBC HD (784)
Weather Channel HD (785)

Maybe we'll get these also!

sorry about that; the link should be:

http://cox.com/oklahoma/hdtv/hdchannels.asp

sorry about that; the link should be:

http://cox.com/oklahoma/hdtv/hdchannels.asp

I guess I should read the recent posts before making this one; I see this has already been reported...

Looks as though Lake Forest finally got their HD channels way in advanced. Just got Versus, Discovery, etc last night and Travel etc the night before. Not all the channels work like NHL, Science, NFL but at least they are listed. Just in time for the rest of the NHL playoffs so I'm happy. :)

Got 701 yesterday, but still don't have Animal Planet HD and a couple of others. In RSM.

Looks as though Lake Forest finally got their HD channels way in advanced. Just got Versus, Discovery, etc last night and Travel etc the night before. Not all the channels work like NHL, Science, NFL but at least they are listed. Just in time for the rest of the NHL playoffs so I'm happy. :)
88al88,

I guess you are the lucky one. I am in Lake Forest too. But as of last night, I still did not see any new HD channels.:mad:

I am in RSM as well but I dont see any new channels

Science HD and NHL HD aren't active in Irvine yet, but show in the guide.

The guide now shows 799 Pay Per View HD, but also isn't active yet.

THAT IS GREAT NEWS!

And it seems SciFi HD and USA HD are coming very soon.
Along with Weather HD (Lame) and MSNBC HD.

Finally Cox is making progress.

Science HD and NHL HD aren't active in Irvine yet, but show in the guide.

I'm in Irvine (92602) and receive ScienceHD just fine. As for NHL HD, I cannot view it, but I think it's because I don't subscribe to the sports tier package.



And it seems SciFi HD and USA HD are coming very soon.
Along with Weather HD (Lame) and MSNBC HD.

Finally Cox is making progress.

I don't see this on the Cox site. Is this just based on the recent news about Oklahoma, or did you get some other notice?

They replaced my modem 2 months ago, they are switching to a new docsis 2, even though 3 is out. what is funny is my reg modem broke and i asked for a new one and it was 200 dollars, but then it arrived and was free, with no lease charges.
Good to hear, thanks. I was initially worried that they were going to require me to buy a new modem or start down the whole lease a modem road.

I have the new Cox Moto DCH 3416 HD/DVR boxes (2). Over the weekend I recorded both Tudors & John Adams concurrently from the HD Channels (700 & 740). One was recorded in DD, the other was recorded in PLII (Onkyo DSP that starts with Stereo sound). Later the box was used for regular live TV play reverted to stereo only for all DD shows. I could not switch back through the box audio menu to Dolby Digital, it would not retain that setting. I had to do a reboot of the box (holding down the power button for ~SEC.), then I could reset the audio to Dolby Digital without a problem and it would hold that setting.

Anyone else ever have this problem when recording two Dolby Digital 5.1 shows simultaneously?

Best Regards,
Larry

P.S. The red record light on the display of this box still does not light. I understand from another poster that this is discussed as a known Moto issue on the Comcast Forum. Do any of you have the same issue with this box.

I have the new Cox Moto DCH 3416 HD/DVR boxes (2). Over the weekend I recorded both Tudors & John Adams concurrently from the HD Channels (700 & 740). One was recorded in DD, the other was recorded in PLII (Onkyo DSP that starts with Stereo sound). Later the box was used for regular live TV play reverted to stereo only for all DD shows. I could not switch back through the box audio menu to Dolby Digital, it would not retain that setting. I had to do a reboot of the box (holding down the power button for ~SEC.), then I could reset the audio to Dolby Digital without a problem and it would hold that setting.

Anyone else ever have this problem when recording two Dolby Digital 5.1 shows simultaneously?

Best Regards,
Larry



Yes, I have that same box and it happens to me, too, but I don't know if it is tied to recording two DD (AC3) shows at once. At least for me, it seems to happen randomly and only every week or two, but rebooting always fixes it - at least until the next time. jlstang95 brought up this same issue back on March 7th, but he said simply rebooting fixed it. My suspicion is it is still happening to him, too.

After you rebooted, did both recordings now show DD (AC3)?

By the way, it appeared to start with the last firmware update, along with the recording light issue. It does not happen on my other older boxes.

After rebooting, the status of the movies did not change, one was DD/AC3, and the other was PLII (onkyo DSP applied to stero or Dolby PLII). My former boxes (without the black plastic partial front) never revealed that problem, and the red recording light always came on.

Best Regards,
Larry

P.S. I think everyone with these 2 problems should contact Cox Technical Support and file formal reports to pressure them to resolve these defects. I did just that today.

Yes, I have that same box and it happens to me, too, but I don't know if it is tied to recording two DD (AC3) shows at once. At least for me, it seems to happen randomly and only every week or two, but rebooting always fixes it - at least until the next time. jlstang95 brought up this same issue back on March 7th, but he said simply rebooting fixed it. My suspicion is it is still happening to him, too.

After you rebooted, did both recordings now show DD (AC3)?

By the way, it appeared to start with the last firmware update, along with the recording light issue. It does not happen on my other older boxes.

P.S. I think everyone with these 2 problems should contact Cox Technical Support and file formal reports to pressure them to resolve these defects. I did just that today.

agreed

My experience is that the box records the movie as delivered and does not process the audio until the movie is played. If you reboot the box you should be able to play the movie in DD. I just hold the power button on the front of my box until the display says "boot".

My experience is that the box records the movie as delivered and does not process the audio until the movie is played. If you reboot the box you should be able to play the movie in DD. If you reboot the box you should be able to play the movie in DD. I just hold the power button on the front of my box until the display says "boot".

That is what I thought, too, but it looks like larryis1 did reboot and is still having the DD issue. As I said, I haven't seen that same issue, but then again, it happens so seldom and I don't know what triggers it, so I'm not sure how I could test for the same error. In any event, I reported both issues - the red recording indicator and the DD issue to Cox and got the canned response, so we'll see where that goes. Both are tolerable to me, so I'm not too concerned.

Hi Moyekj,

Do you know if I have to have a Cox technician to transfer the CableCard from my Sony HD TV to TiVO HD? COX came and married the CableCard with the TV before. I am wondering if I can marry the CableCard with my Tivo on my own?

Thanks.

Hi Moyekj,

Do you know if I have to have a Cox technician to transfer the CableCard from my Sony HD TV to TiVO HD? COX came and married the CableCard with the TV before. I am wondering if I can marry the CableCard with my Tivo on my own?

Thanks. Unfortunately most likely yes, you will need to schedule a truck roll to have it done (and pay the associated fee). Can't hurt to call them up and see if it can be done by phone instead though. Is the one in your Sony an M Card? Remember that unless you use M Card you will need 2 for your Tivo.

In my experience, the problem occurred as a result of simultaneously recording two shows. Both are presented in DD5.1, one was played back in DD5.1, the other in PLII. Then I had to reboot to restore the DD5.1 functionality for watching shows on a go forward basis. This is a Moto limitation and must be addressed with Cox Cable.

Best Regards,
Larry


That is what I thought, too, but it looks like larryis1 did reboot and is still having the DD issue. As I said, I haven't seen that same issue, but then again, it happens so seldom and I don't know what triggers it, so I'm not sure how I could test for the same error. In any event, I reported both issues - the red recording indicator and the DD issue to Cox and got the canned response, so we'll see where that goes. Both are tolerable to me, so I'm not too concerned.

In my experience, the problem occurred as a result of simultaneously recording two shows. Both are presented in DD5.1, one was played back in DD5.1, the other in PLII. Then I had to reboot to restore the DD5.1 functionality for watching shows on a go forward basis. This is a Moto limitation and must be addressed with Cox Cable.

Best Regards,
Larry

Thanks, Larry. I tried this numerous times since I read your post and I cannot seem to duplicate the issue. If you haven't already done so, could you try out your theory again and report back results?

It is a S-Card. Cox Technical Support totally did not recommend M-Card when I called them last time. They told me M-Card caused all kinds of problem for them.

I transferred the CableCard this weekend and it worked!!! But no cigar. I want to have the flexibility of watching one program while I am recording another. I could not use the splitter becasue of HD. So I will have to schedule a technician to put in the second S-card.

Thanks a lot for your input.

It is a S-Card. Cox Technical Support totally did not recommend M-Card when I called them last time. They told me M-Card caused all kinds of problem for them.

I transferred the CableCard this weekend and it worked!!! But no cigar. I want to have the flexibility of watching one program while I am recording another. I could not use the splitter becasue of HD. So I will have to schedule a technician to put in the second S-card.

Thanks a lot for your input. You need to re-marry the transferred S-card to your Tivo or certain copy-protected programs will not play back or record properly. You can have the technician coming to install 2nd card do that while he is there.

It is a S-Card. Cox Technical Support totally did not recommend M-Card when I called them last time. They told me M-Card caused all kinds of problem for them.Really? I have M-Cards in all three of my Tivo HDs without issue.

That's what I was told. Maybe it is a strategy to charge $1.99 x 2. How much are they charging you for the M-Card?

You need to re-marry the transferred S-card to your Tivo or certain copy-protected programs will not play back or record properly. You can have the technician coming to install 2nd card do that while he is there.
I only subcribe the limited basic for HD. Maybe that is why I am not seeing problems. Well, since Cox has to come out anyway for the 2nd S-Card OR the M-Card, I will leave it to them to figure it out. Thanks.

I only subcribe the limited basic for HD. Maybe that is why I am not seeing problems. Well, since Cox has to come out anyway for the 2nd S-Card OR the M-Card, I will leave it to them to figure it out. Thanks. For unencrypted channels it really doesn't matter which is why you don't have a problem. So you were able to get CableCard without having to subscribe to at least the minimum digital cable package? That's news to me. Last I checked they wouldn't give you CableCard without a subscription to digital cable. That in turn requires expanded basic in addition to limited basic. Are you paying "digital gateway" fee?

So, my DVR just reset twice and I lost all 100 gigs of saved movies and shows. Great! I don't think any software updates were installed (Version 3.0.058, FW 16.42). The guide data was also reset and I lost my settings and series recording options. Did this happen to anyone else?

For unencrypted channels it really doesn't matter which is why you don't have a problem. So you were able to get CableCard without having to subscribe to at least the minimum digital cable package? That's news to me. Last I checked they wouldn't give you CableCard without a subscription to digital cable. That in turn requires expanded basic in addition to limited basic. Are you paying "digital gateway" fee?
Sorry I did not make it very clear. Yes, I am paying for the digital gateway, but I only subscribe to limited basic. I believed you have to specifically ask for it; otherwise, you will get expanded basic by default.

Do you use S-card or M-card for your Tivo Series 3?

Sorry I did not make it very clear. Yes, I am paying for the digital gateway, but I only subscribe to limited basic. I believed you have to specifically ask for it; otherwise, you will get expanded basic by default.

Do you use S-card or M-card for your Tivo Series 3? I've got 4 S-cards in 2 Series 3s.
If you get 2 S-cards Cox may well try and charge you for 2x digital gateway - one per card. In my case I pay for 3 "additional outlet" ($1.49 each) charges since Cox considers each card over 1 like an extra digital connection. Since it's less than $5/month for the 3 additional outlets I haven't bothered to contest it.

I've got 4 S-cards in 2 Series 3s.
If you get 2 S-cards Cox may well try and charge you for 2x digital gateway - one per card. In my case I pay for 3 "additional outlet" ($1.49 each) charges since Cox considers each card over 1 like an extra digital connection. Since it's less than $5/month for the 3 additional outlets I haven't bothered to contest it.
Maybe that is why they are not promoting M-Card. It weakends the argument to charge additional outlet.

Just noticed that Cox San Diego now has SciFi HD (though strangely no USA HD yet):
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalcable/hdtv/programming.asp

So, my DVR just reset twice and I lost all 100 gigs of saved movies and shows. Great! I don't think any software updates were installed (Version 3.0.058, FW 16.42). The guide data was also reset and I lost my settings and series recording options. Did this happen to anyone else?

Looks like my box has been resetting due to overheating. The temperature right now is at 116 F (Max is 118 F) and its lagging like no other. Must have been today's hot temperature or something. Going to replace it tomorrow.

A week ago I canceled my HD Tier, but I still get the HDNets and HD Theater.

Science HD, NHL HD, NFL HD (which used to work) are blacked out.
Are my channels somehow mismapped?

So, my DVR just reset twice and I lost all 100 gigs of saved movies and shows. Great! I don't think any software updates were installed (Version 3.0.058, FW 16.42). The guide data was also reset and I lost my settings and series recording options. Did this happen to anyone else?I had it happen twice (once to each of my PVRs from Cox) in 3 months. First time was spontaneous. Second was a tech support idiot trying to troubleshoot something reset the box back to factory defaults remotely. That's when I bought a Tivo HD.

Never had that issue, though I did once have a unit go bad, so I lost everything when I turned it in.....

A week ago I canceled my HD Tier, but I still get the HDNets and HD Theater.

Science HD, NHL HD, NFL HD (which used to work) are blacked out.
Are my channels somehow mismapped?

I have a similar issue. Right now, I am only receiving the local HD channels along with Showtime HD (I don't subscribe to Showtime). The rest of the HD channels are blocked out. Guess I gotta call Cox again tomorrow.

Looks as though Lake Forest finally got their HD channels way in advanced. Just got Versus, Discovery, etc last night and Travel etc the night before. Not all the channels work like NHL, Science, NFL but at least they are listed. Just in time for the rest of the NHL playoffs so I'm happy.

88al88,

I guess you are the lucky one. I am in Lake Forest too. But as of last night, I still did not see any new HD channels.:mad:

Well after having all the new HD channels for 2 weeks, they took them all away yesterday. Makes me mad, but I guess I wasn't supposed to have them anyway, since no on else did. But clearly their available, so I think cox should just roll them out already.

So, my DVR just reset twice and I lost all 100 gigs of saved movies and shows. Great! I don't think any software updates were installed (Version 3.0.058, FW 16.42). The guide data was also reset and I lost my settings and series recording options. Did this happen to anyone else?This has happened to me twice on my older box, but so far not on the newer 3416 that I've had for a while (but it has the record light issue). I just have to be sure not to leave anything super important on there because I've been burned twice already. Case of pick your poison.

Does anyone know if more than one HDDVR is available from Cox cable? The Cox Store at Quail Hill only shows one unit.

I did a scan with my Fusion HD tuner today for the 1st time in a long while. There are channels now all the way up to RF 134 (855 MHz), most being encrypted.

Just noticed that Cox San Diego now has SciFi HD (though strangely no USA HD yet):
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalcable/hdtv/programming.asp

USA is on there now too

USA is on there now too Yes that makes it promising we should be seeing SciFi HD & USA HD sometime soon. Will be great to have Battlestar Galactica, Eureka, The 4400 (maybe if 5th season ever happens), Monk, Stargate Atlantis and Burn Notice all in HD!!

My guess is it would happen soon, this month.

We don't need Lifetime HD, but anyone think ESPN News HD will arrive since we have the other ESPNs?

I'd be happy if I could tune the existing HD lineup on my Tivos. What's the story with Animal Planet and Discovery Science? They still won't tune here in RSM.

The 4400 was officially canceled some time back :(

So I called cox and asked why I don't get NHL HD, NFL HD, and Science HD.

Answer: I don't pay for the Sports and Info or the Discovery Tiers.

So I actually do save a few dollars ~5, but I thought Science HD was Free as were NFL NHL...

I do get TLC, Discovery, and Animal Planet.
I also get ESPN1 ESPN2

Can I argue to get them for free, or is that impossible.

The ones you get are in your expanded tier. Ones you want are in digital tiers that you would have to pay for.

This doesnt say I cant/ shouldnt get Sci or NFL HD

** Cox Basic service required for local HD channels. Cox Digital Cable and Standard Service required for Expanded HD channels. Digital Cable and paid subscription to HBO, Cinemax, Starz, Showtime or a Cox Digital tier required for HBO HD, Cinemax HD, Starz HD, Showtime HD or other Digital HD programming. Televisions and other consumer owned devices equipped with a CableCARD may require a digital set top receiver in order to receive all programming options offered by Cox Digital Cable. An HD-capable TV set with YPbPr inputs that supports 1080i signals and HD receiver rental or CableCARD required. HD Theater, HDNet and HDNet Movies as the HD Tier ($4.95/mo).

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6560249

Apparently it will be designed for 16:9 screens and will include advanced search capabilities (including dvr recorded programs).

...never mind, speed increase is temporary and attributed to the provisioning process.

Got the new channels in RSM today:
701, 706, 714, 721, 723, 724, 725, 727, 732, 739, 741, 753, 754, 756, 757, 761, 762, 767, 772, 781, 782, 790, 798, 799

Now i got all 44 HD Channels that cox has in our area :)

Woohoo... Same here in Trabuco Canyon!!!

The Tuning Adapter which will allow Tivo S3/HD to tune Switched Digital Video channels is officially a reality and was demo'd at this year's Cable Show:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/18/hands-on-with-the-motorola-tuning-adapter-mtr700/
This Motorola MTR700 tuner will be officially available to cable providers by July, and obviously since the demo included a Tivo HD unit Tivo has at least prototype software working.

The Tuning Adapter which will allow Tivo S3/HD to tune Switched Digital Video channels is officially a reality and was demo'd at this year's Cable Show:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/18/hands-on-with-the-motorola-tuning-adapter-mtr700/
This Motorola MTR700 tuner will be officially available to cable providers by July, and obviously since the demo included a Tivo HD unit Tivo has at least prototype software working.

The Cisco one is being shown as well - http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/19/hands-on-with-the-cisco-tuning-adapter-sta1520/

I sure hope that they'll be using the Motorola one in OC, as the last thing I need is another huge box....

The Cisco one is being shown as well - http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/19/hands-on-with-the-cisco-tuning-adapter-sta1520/

I sure hope that they'll be using the Motorola one in OC, as the last thing I need is another huge box.... Cox OC has to use the Motorola MTR700 as it is a Motorola headend (hence why they use Motorola set top boxes). Cisco/SA and Motorola use different protocols for upstream communication so typically one cannot mix and match their equipment in the same headend.

It looks like Cox San Diego got the Sci-Fi channel recently

It looks like Cox San Diego got the Sci-Fi channel recently

apparently they also have HD on their on demand schedule (HBO, Starz, etc)

anyone else notice a lot pixelation lately? I've especially had it on TNT watching the basketball games. Is this something to worry about, or just due to all the work going on adding channels, etc...?

btw, I'm in Aliso Viejo

anyone else notice a lot pixelation lately? I've especially had it on TNT watching the basketball games. Is this something to worry about, or just due to all the work going on adding channels, etc...?

btw, I'm in Aliso Viejo I've watched all the TNT HD NBA (as well as ESPNHD, ABCHD) games over the last 2 weeks and don't recall much of any pixelation here in Mission Viejo. Go Lakers! Aliso Viejo is listed as completed with the upgrades (I think it was among the 1st) as is Mission Viejo here:
http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/city_list.asp
So if it continues you may want to consider a Cox visit or set top box replacement.

anyone else notice a lot pixelation lately? I've especially had it on TNT watching the basketball games. Is this something to worry about, or just due to all the work going on adding channels, etc...?

btw, I'm in Aliso Viejo

Funny you say that...I just came on here to post the same question. I am noticing a lot of compression artifacts on 793 while watching a recording of Star Trek Enterprise. Anyone know of a way to see how many mbps they are compressing their signal with?

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Funny you say that...I just came on here to post the same question. I am noticing a lot of compression artifacts on 793 while watching a recording of Star Trek Enterprise. Anyone know of a way to see how many mbps they are compressing their signal with? Only measure you have is to see the total size of a recording and divide by total seconds of the recording. I don't recall if the Moto DVRs allow you to see individual show recording sizes or not though, but Tivos do. Not sure having a Mbps number would be much good unless the number is way low, and even then you won't know if it's the original broadcast or if Cox is doing something to degrade it. For local channels available OTA I can compare Cox feeds to those, but for cable channels there's nothing to compare against unless you can get the feed from an alternate source.

There was someone on this forum (different thread) that posted a comparison between comcast and AT&T

anyone else notice a lot pixelation lately? I've especially had it on TNT watching the basketball games. Is this something to worry about, or just due to all the work going on adding channels, etc...?

btw, I'm in Aliso Viejo

Absolutely been noticing this as well, maybe 5-6 occurrences during the game. I'm in Aliso too, Pacific Park and the 73. I would have been REALLY REALLY pissed if the pixelation happened at a critical moment of the game.

Absolutely been noticing this as well, maybe 5-6 occurrences during the game. I'm in Aliso too, Pacific Park and the 73. I would have been REALLY REALLY pissed if the pixelation happened at a critical moment of the game.
Ok, thanks, so it must not be my box.... I'm at Pacific Park and 73 too....

anyone else notice a lot pixelation lately? I've especially had it on TNT watching the basketball games. Is this something to worry about, or just due to all the work going on adding channels, etc...?

btw, I'm in Aliso Viejo Lakers game 4 of playoff series last night on TNT HD for me had numerous pixelation cases and some other strange defects that became very annoying. Anyone else notice that too?

Lakers game 4 of playoff series last night on TNT HD for me had numerous pixelation cases and some other strange defects that became very annoying. Anyone else notice that too?

Yes, in Irvine saw the same. In fact, I have noticed increased pixelation on various other HD channels - very frustrating.

Hey guys,

I've come to this forum for answers and info for awhile now and was hoping someone would have some help for me.

It actually is regarding Cox's internet broadband speed and if there is a forum like this one that covers our Cox at home internet setup and tweaks we can use to speed up our service.

I use Speakeasy and Speedguide to test my dload and upload speeds and I am a lot lower than my next door neighbor. Eventhough we both have the $41.95 internet plan with "power boost".

We live in Lag. Nig. and I can't figure out why his connection speed is so much faster than mine. We've use TCP/IP analyzers and optimizers and use the same settings, but he still gets faster speed readings.

Any forums out there that might help?

Here are my results on Speakeasy.net using the LA option.

Download Speed: 6286 kbps (785.8 KB/sec transfer rate) (my neighbor gets over 9000 kbps for his download speed!!)
Upload Speed: 519 kbps (64.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/



and at SpeedGuide.net http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/ (use the "clowder" (LA) location

6678 kbps down (~6.68 Mbps, 815 KB/s) ↓
497 kbps up (~0.5 Mbps, 61 KB/s) ↑

Details:
5120 KB downloaded in 6.281 seconds
2048 KB uploaded in 33.735 seconds
Speed @ 156% of the average for dip.t-dialin.net
126 times faster than 56k dialup
Tested on: 2008.05.29 01:48 EDT
Tested from: clowder.ca
Test ID: 31ACH6UKDHT0
Browser/OS: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14

Provider: dip.t-dialin.net
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA, US

Hey guys,

I've come to this forum for answers and info for awhile now and was hoping someone would have some help for me.

It actually is regarding Cox's internet broadband speed and if there is a forum like this one that covers our Cox at home internet setup and tweaks we can use to speed up our service.

I use Speakeasy and Speedguide to test my dload and upload speeds and I am a lot lower than my next door neighbor. Eventhough we both have the $41.95 internet plan with "power boost".

We live in Lag. Nig. and I can't figure out why his connection speed is so much faster than mine. We've use TCP/IP analyzers and optimizers and use the same settings, but he still gets faster speed readings.

Any forums out there that might help?

Here are my results on Speakeasy.net using the LA option.

Download Speed: 6286 kbps (785.8 KB/sec transfer rate) (my neighbor gets over 9000 kbps for his download speed!!)
Upload Speed: 519 kbps (64.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/



and at SpeedGuide.net http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/ (use the "clowder" (LA) location

6678 kbps down (~6.68 Mbps, 815 KB/s) ↓
497 kbps up (~0.5 Mbps, 61 KB/s) ↑

Details:
5120 KB downloaded in 6.281 seconds
2048 KB uploaded in 33.735 seconds
Speed @ 156% of the average for dip.t-dialin.net
126 times faster than 56k dialup
Tested on: 2008.05.29 01:48 EDT
Tested from: clowder.ca
Test ID: 31ACH6UKDHT0
Browser/OS: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14
IP Address: 68.231.206.76
Provider: dip.t-dialin.net
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA, US

edit it and take your ip address out

what modem are you using? what speeds do your next door neighbor get?

In Irivne (92606) 716 is ESPN NEWS HD, and I can't find ESPN2HD. Anyone else?

In Irivne (92606) 716 is ESPN NEWS HD, and I can't find ESPN2HD. Anyone else?

ESPN 2 HD shows an hour long version of ESPNEWS HD around 2 AM. Then it goes back to its original programming

thanks. i wonder if we will get the channel at some point.

Here are my results on Speakeasy.net using the LA option.

Download Speed: 6286 kbps (785.8 KB/sec transfer rate) (my neighbor gets over 9000 kbps for his download speed!!)
Upload Speed: 519 kbps (64.9 KB/sec transfer rate) For "Preferred Service" ($41.95/month plan) Cox limits download speeds to 7 Mbps. If you have that service and get anything above that it is probably due to "powerboost" which is unreliable. For "Premiere Service" the limit is 12 Mbps, so if your neighbor consistently gets more than 8 Mbps perhaps he/she is on that plan?

I just ran Speakeasy test and I'm getting 8000 Kbps down, 500 Kbps up (I'm on "Preferred Service"). There was a period of a month where I would only get about 4000 Kbps down, 500 Kbps up whenever I tried. Cox cannot guarantee any particular minimum download speed as it's a shared service affected by what other users on your node are doing at the time among other factors.

I would like to see upload speeds be significantly boosted such that Slingbox becomes much more watchable via WAN. With 512 Kbps upload limit of Preferred Plan it's pretty lousy right now, and the "Premiere" option only gets you up to 1 Mbps upload so not worth the price difference. Probably will have to wait for Docsis 3.0 deployment for that to become feasible...

well they just released docsis 2.0, I doubt 3 is anywhere near Cox's upgrade plans

well they just released docsis 2.0, I doubt 3 is anywhere near Cox's upgrade plans

Cox has committed to rolling out DOCSIS 3.0 in some markets this year:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-Will-Offer-Some-DOCSIS-30-In-2008-92839

That being said, I don't think we're one of them, as there aren't any fiber deployments by their competitors around here that I know of.

For "Preferred Service" ($41.95/month plan) Cox limits download speeds to 7 Mbps. If you have that service and get anything above that it is probably due to "powerboost" which is unreliable. For "Premiere Service" the limit is 12 Mbps, so if your neighbor consistently gets more than 8 Mbps perhaps he/she is on that plan?

I just ran Speakeasy test and I'm getting 8000 Kbps down, 500 Kbps up (I'm on "Preferred Service"). There was a period of a month where I would only get about 4000 Kbps down, 500 Kbps up whenever I tried. Cox cannot guarantee any particular minimum download speed as it's a shared service affected by what other users on your node are doing at the time among other factors.

I would like to see upload speeds be significantly boosted such that Slingbox becomes much more watchable via WAN. With 512 Kbps upload limit of Preferred Plan it's pretty lousy right now, and the "Premiere" option only gets you up to 1 Mbps upload so not worth the price difference. Probably will have to wait for Docsis 3.0 deployment for that to become feasible...

Yep, he's on the same plan. Wonder why he always gets higher speeds....

How is Slingbox quality? I was thinking about getting one, but wondered about buffering and lag.

How is Slingbox quality? I was thinking about getting one, but wondered about buffering and lag. To be honest for watching anything with action it's very lousy with only 512Kbps upstream WAN limit - you really need around 2 Mbps upstream for good quality over WAN. What I use it for the most is for interacting with my Tivos, checking schedule, scheduling shows to record, etc. from anywhere with internet access. On the LAN without the upstream speed restriction the picture quality is very good so it's also useful for watching from anywhere in your home via a laptop & wireless networking. Overall I'm happy with the purchase (I got the Solo on sale @ Staples a while back) but I don't use it for watching much over WAN since the picture quality is too lousy with 512Kbps limit.

Talked with a COX representative with regards to upcoming HD channels. He said that around June 26, USA HD, SCI FI HD, Lifetime HD, Bravo HD, and CNBC HD will be active.

A decent lineup if not particularly impressive one. But if COX were to really impress me, it should take into consideration the following channels:

Weather Channel HD, ESPNews HD, Outdoor Channel 2 HD, FOX News Channel HD, FX HD, Speed HD, Disney Channel HD, Toon Disney HD, Smithsonian Channel HD, Planet Green HD, and ESPN U HD

Talked with a COX representative with regards to upcoming HD channels. He said that around June 26, USA HD, SCI FI HD, Lifetime HD, Bravo HD, and CNBC HD will be active.

A decent lineup if not particularly impressive one. But if COX were to really impress me, it should take into consideration the following channels:

Weather Channel HD, ESPNews HD, Outdoor Channel 2 HD, FOX News Channel HD, FX HD, Speed HD, Disney Channel HD, Toon Disney HD, Smithsonian Channel HD, Planet Green HD, and ESPN U HD

That lineup seems reasonable, falls in line with what Cox Fairfax just received...

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/31/cox-northern-virginia-gets-5-new-hd-nets-scifi-hd-included/

Weather Channel HD, ESPNews HD, Outdoor Channel 2 HD, FOX News Channel HD, FX HD, Speed HD, Disney Channel HD, Toon Disney HD, Smithsonian Channel HD, Planet Green HD, and ESPN U HD For me, other than perhaps Fox News Channel HD I would not watch any of those. In fact I wasn't even aware there were SD versions of some of those. :)

Talked with a COX representative with regards to upcoming HD channels. He said that around June 26, USA HD, SCI FI HD, Lifetime HD, Bravo HD, and CNBC HD will be active.

Looks like someone signed some Vivindi Universal paperwork.

Encouraging news on how Cox plans to handle SDV for Tivo owners:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6336627#post6336627
Switched Digital Video arrives July 1 in Phoenix, AZ

I just got a letter from Cox announcing SDV starting July 1. Here we use Cisco/SA equipment and Cablecards. So far, I will only lose CSPAN2 and CSPAN3 which I watch very occasionally. In all, they list 60+ channels via SDV: 21 Spanish-language, seven Public Safety, 20+ sports (Fox College, NBA League Pass/MLS Direct Kick, MLB Extra Innings/NHL Center Ice) and some odds and ends (Great American Country, DIY, BET Jazz, etc.)

For TiVo owners there is news. The letter mentions the Tuning Adapter will be available "later this year" (boo!!!) and will be provided "by Cox at no charge" (hooray!!!) The other encouraging aspect is the set of channels chosen to go SDV in Phoenix appear to be the less watched ones (which makes perfect sense).

put channels 316-684 and 804-998 on SDV and that would be fine with me

I am using MythTV .20 with a variety of tuners in my HTPC. It looks to me as if Cox changed the program stream for RF 31 late last week. MythTV .20 will no longer allow viewing or recording of these channels but I can view them with vlc and mplayer from all my tuners. I am thinking that the program stream is incorrectly identifying itself as encrypted or that the broadcast flag is set to not allow recording. MythTV .21 does work with the stream as it is now configured. Did anyone else see this change in RF 31?

I am using MythTV .20 with a variety of tuners in my HTPC. It looks to me as if Cox changed the program stream for RF 31 late last week. MythTV .20 will no longer allow viewing or recording of these channels but I can view them with vlc and mplayer from all my tuners. I am thinking that the program stream is incorrectly identifying itself as encrypted or that the broadcast flag is set to not allow recording. MythTV .21 does work with the stream as it is now configured. Did anyone else see this change in RF 31? My Tivos don't report any of the channels on RF 31 as encrypted or with broadcast flag set. The set of channels on RF 31 also appears to be the same as it's been for a long time: KABCDT, KTTVDT, KABCDT2, KABCDT3. Could well be there was a change in PSIP information however which Myth .20 cannot interpret. Way back I had a Samsung tuner capable of clear QAM tuning that for some reason could never tune those channels on RF 31, and I remember others reporting similar problem in this thread - that was a long while back now though but I still think there was something non-standard about PSIP data.

Thanks for the info about the lack of encryption or broadcast flags begin set. The PSIP information did change last week. Using hdhomerun_config I have been scanning channels over the last few weeks and the station names are no longer displayed for the RF 31 channels like they were the week before.

Does anyone else see these new channels in their guide?

722 - USA, 750 CNBC, 755 Bravo, 758 Lifetime, and 761 SciFi

Trying to tune brings up either the subscription banner or a "Temporarily Off Air" banner. I just started receiving the new HD channels about a week ago, and these showed up in the guide today. Located in RSM.

Yeah...all offline right now though.../me is happy

Just in time for Battlestar Galactica on Friday and Stargate: Atlantis next month :)

****EDIT
722, 750, 755, 758 are Temporarily off Air

But 761 wants me to subscribe...better not have to pay extra for that

Yeah...all offline right now though.../me is happy

Just in time for Battlestar Galactica on Friday and Stargate: Atlantis next month :)

****EDIT
722, 750, 755, 758 are Temporarily off Air

But 761 wants me to subscribe...better not have to pay extra for that
Yup Same here

They havent shown up in Irvine yet.

Looks like thy are all on air...and you dont have to pay for Sci-Fi :)

Does anyone else see these new channels in their guide?

722 - USA, 750 CNBC, 755 Bravo, 758 Lifetime, and 761 SciFi

Trying to tune brings up either the subscription banner or a "Temporarily Off Air" banner. I just started receiving the new HD channels about a week ago, and these showed up in the guide today. Located in RSM. Wow, these now tune in Mission Viejo as well. Tivo guide doesn't have them yet so will have to file a lineup change for that. With USAHD & SCIFIHD in the mix that rounds up all the HD channels I care about for now...

The Tivo Diagnostics contain some information on "RS Uncorrected" & "RS Corrected" in addition to traditional Signal Strength & SNR numbers. Background on this:
RS stands for Reed-Solomon. They invented a mathematical coding method which is capable of correcting errors in a bitstream. Their methods are incorporated in many digital data transmission schemes. In digital TV, its called FEC or Forward Error Correction. The RS Corrected value tells you how many times the FEC algorithm had to be used to correct an error since the channel was tuned. The RS Uncorrected value tells you how may times the error exceeded the capability for FEC to correct it.

On RF 128 which contains USAHD & CNBCHD I'm getting many correctable RS errors (no uncorrectable errors) even though signal strength shows 100% & SNR is 36 dB. Haven't noticed artifacting yet since there are no uncorrectable errors, but the RS correctable errors are incrementing by 2 or 3 every second which indicates not a very healthy signal.

Wow, these now tune in Mission Viejo as well. Tivo guide doesn't have them yet so will have to file a lineup change for that. With USAHD & SCIFIHD in the mix that rounds up all the HD channels I care about for now...

Same here. Now all the stations that I watch in SD are in HD

In aliso Viejo, I have the new channels Sci FI etc however quality is lacking. Broadcast in 4 by 3 only slightly better than SD. Hopfully this will change.

So I just got a new Panasonic 800u and i plugged her in to my TWC box only to find out the highest it outputs is 1080i...is that normal for cable providers? Is cox this way? Is there a thread for TWC Orange County? Man, there HD selection is kind of weak compared to Cox. Thanks in advance!

We've got them in Irvine, too. I love the way CNBCHD looks - extra information is displayed on the sides as compared to the SD feed at my office. Now I wish we had HD at work!

So I just got a new Panasonic 800u and i plugged her in to my TWC box only to find out the highest it outputs is 1080i...is that normal for cable providers? Is cox this way? Is there a thread for TWC Orange County? Man, there HD selection is kind of week compared to Cox. Thanks in advance! Yes, that's the norm for cable provider set top boxes in general (mainly Motorola and Scientific Atlanta/Cisco). There are no 1080p broadcasts anyway (and probably won't be for a long time to come) so there really is not much point to have set top box do deinterlacing/upscaling to 1080p. If you have a decent 1080p TV it will do a better job of deiniterlacing/upscaling than a generic set top box anyway. For good TVs the best you can hope for is that the set top box spits out the native resolution of whatever it is tuned to and let the TV do all the work to scale it to proper resolution.

Yes, that's the norm for cable provider set top boxes in general (mainly Motorola and Scientific Atlanta/Cisco). There are no 1080p broadcasts anyway (and probably won't be for a long time to come) so there really is not much point to have set top box do deinterlacing/upscaling to 1080p. If you have a decent 1080p TV it will do a better job of deiniterlacing/upscaling than a generic set top box anyway. For good TVs the best you can hope for is that the set top box spits out the native resolution of whatever it is tuned to and let the TV do all the work to scale it to proper resolution.

Thanks for the info!!! Is there another thread for TWC in Orange County? I searched but couldn't find any more info. I guess Cox dominates Orange County.

Thanks for the info!!! Is there another thread for TWC in Orange County? I searched but couldn't find any more info. I guess Cox dominates Orange County. The master index of local providers is here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=453241
The Los Angeles TWC thread covers Orange County as well (look at the map in the 1st post of the LA TWC thread):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=306411

The master index of local providers is here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=453241
The Los Angeles TWC thread covers Orange County as well (look at the map in the 1st post of the LA TWC thread):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=306411

Cool Thanks!

FYI

RF 31 is back to normal today and MythTV .20.2 is working again with this channel.

RF Channel 31
1: 7.1 KABC-HD
3: 11.1 KTTV HD
4: 7.2 KABC SD
5: 7.3 KABC-WN

In aliso Viejo, I have the new channels Sci FI etc however quality is lacking. Broadcast in 4 by 3 only slightly better than SD. Hopfully this will change.
This is most likely due to the programming content. They simply don't stretch the SD ala TNT etc. We'll know for sure on Friday when BSG runs in all of its (hopeful) HD glory.

So everyone has brand spanking new HD channels cept Lake Forest which happens to be right smack in the middle of Irvine, Mission Viejo, etc., I feel so special... :(

Same here. Now all the stations that I watch in SD are in HD
I could go for FX and Spike, but I do have to admit that I am pretty satisfied with the selection now.

moyekj, which HD channels are inaccessible to the tivos?

So everyone has brand spanking new HD channels cept Lake Forest which happens to be right smack in the middle of Irvine, Mission Viejo, etc., I feel so special... :(
I completely understand your frustration... I was in the same boat until about a week ago. The addition of SciFi was just icing on the cake.

At least it may be safe to say COX is somewhat ahead of schedule. RSM was scheduled for June and I was assuming that meant June 30 at the earliest.

moyekj, which HD channels are inaccessible to the tivos? There are only 3 which get no signal when tuning them via my Tivos:
732=SCIENCEHD
753=TRAVELHD
772=APLHD
The rest tune fine so far since Cox decided to add them to CableCard lineup a while back.

Since Cox upgraded bandwidth to 850MHz there are still several free QAMs available so there really is no need for SDV to be enabled at this time.

There are only 3 which get no signal when tuning them via my Tivos:
732=SCIENCEHD
753=TRAVELHD
772=APLHD
The rest tune fine so far since Cox decided to add them to CableCard lineup a while back.

Getting all but those in Foothill Ranch as well (oh, and missing SciFi too). Seems odd that they aren't mapping those for us, yet are giving us even newer ones....

Should I assume you already did a lineup request to Tivo? Saves me the task.... ;)

This is most likely due to the programming content. They simply don't stretch the SD ala TNT etc. We'll know for sure on Friday when BSG runs in all of its (hopeful) HD glory.
I think it's HDnet that shows Enterprise, same show on SciFi HD is cropped vertically and horizontally and does not compare to HDnet. Still I commend Cox on the general quality of HD we've been lucky in Aliso Viejo the rollout's have been pretty smooth.

Really happy Cox is finally taking care of business, we have most of the channels that are worth having. Plenty more to add, but good start.

Isn't MSNBC in HD now, strange they didnt add that, or ESPN News HD, which one would think they had rights to.

I suppose FX HD isn't far behind?
MTV HD, CMT HD could be good additions.

Getting all but those in Foothill Ranch as well (oh, and missing SciFi too). Seems odd that they aren't mapping those for us, yet are giving us even newer ones....

Should I assume you already did a lineup request to Tivo? Saves me the task.... ;)

Err...Scratch that - I guess that I do have SciFi now - it's just that my Tivo has NHLHD guide data for it now... Looks like they moved things around a bit..

New channels here as well. In addition, the HD tier seems to be coming in for free. Glitch?

I think it's HDnet that shows Enterprise, same show on SciFi HD is cropped vertically and horizontally and does not compare to HDnet. Still I commend Cox on the general quality of HD we've been lucky in Aliso Viejo the rollout's have been pretty smooth.

Sci-Fi HD probably doesnt own the HD masters for those shows yet...

We have all the channels here in RSM, too! Yay!

I could go for FX and Spike, but I do have to admit that I am pretty satisfied with the selection now.

I agree -- from here, FX would be first on my list, along with BBCA and MSNBC. But adding USA and SciFi is a big deal. I just wish The 4400 was still around to watch in HD.

Getting all but those in Foothill Ranch as well (oh, and missing SciFi too). Seems odd that they aren't mapping those for us, yet are giving us even newer ones....

Should I assume you already did a lineup request to Tivo? Saves me the task.... ;) I did file a lineup change request, but if more people from same zip file a request chances are better it will be updated sooner.

Getting all but those in Foothill Ranch as well (oh, and missing SciFi too). Seems odd that they aren't mapping those for us, yet are giving us even newer ones....

Should I assume you already did a lineup request to Tivo? Saves me the task.... ;) I did file a lineup change request with Tivo, but if more people from same area file a request chances are better it will be updated sooner. zap2it doesn't have those channels yet, so it's up to Tribune to add them first before Tivo can.

I moved from a failing Motorola DCT6412III to a Motorola 3416. Everything is fine except that the aux power plug does not work like it did on the 6412. I have my LCD plugged into the back of the cable box and set up in preferences to turn on/off that outlet with the STB. It doesn't. It stays on.

It would normally not be an issue, but I use the sleep timer in the cable box to turn off the TV when I fall asleep. Is there any hope?

I'm also getting the new channels without guide info in RSM. I put in a request for a lineup change with Tivo.

As above I'm still not getting...
732=SCIENCEHD
753=TRAVELHD
772=APLHD
Is anyone getting these with CableCARD? Is this what we're waiting on the upgrades for?

I'm also getting the new channels without guide info in RSM. I put in a request for a lineup change with Tivo.

As above I'm still not getting...
732=SCIENCEHD
753=TRAVELHD
772=APLHD
Is anyone getting these with CableCARD? Is this what we're waiting on the upgrades for? Several cities already have completed upgrades including Mission Viejo and I don't get those 3 channels via CableCard. Not sure why those 3 in particular but it doesn't really bother me much since I would never watch them anyway. Who knows, perhaps those 3 channels were selected to be part of SDV testing.

I'm also getting the new channels without guide info in RSM. I put in a request for a lineup change with Tivo.

As above I'm still not getting...
732=SCIENCEHD
753=TRAVELHD
772=APLHD
Is anyone getting these with CableCARD? Is this what we're waiting on the upgrades for? Wow that was quick! I just did a network connect tonight and the Tivo guide now has the newest HD channels already. Will make scheduling of BSG in HD much easier now. Off to re-do my SciFi & USA season passes to use HD channels...
While it's nice that "In Plain Sight" on USA is now in HD they chose that grainy HD look which I hate...

I moved from a failing Motorola DCT6412III to a Motorola 3416. Everything is fine except that the aux power plug does not work like it did on the 6412. I have my LCD plugged into the back of the cable box and set up in preferences to turn on/off that outlet with the STB. It doesn't. It stays on.

It would normally not be an issue, but I use the sleep timer in the cable box to turn off the TV when I fall asleep. Is there any hope?

The DCH box does not have the hardware capability to switch off the AC port in the back. It is better for your TV to power it off rather than "unplugging" it which is what you do when you have the cable box switch off the AC outlet anyway.

The DCH box does not have the hardware capability to switch off the AC port in the back. It is better for your TV to power it off rather than "unplugging" it which is what you do when you have the cable box switch off the AC outlet anyway.

Sort of funny that it's there and that it's in the preferences to do so. Since I don't see much difference in the two models, I'll stick with the older one just for convenience. Thanks.

Yeah killing the power to any device is a bad thing. Some TV's have fans in them that spin for a bit to cool down the lamp. If you cut the power, the lamp cant cool down correctly and you possibly shorten the life span of your TV.

I'm in RSM with just a basic cable subscription and connect my TV direct to the wall (no box). I've noticed with the changes in the past few weeks that three clear-QAM channels have been added:
50-2: OC Channel (a KOCE subchannel)
127-332: CSPAN3
127-915: KCET-HD

Cable digital channels I receive (SD=standard definition):
2-1: KCBS-HD
4-1: KNBC-HD
4-2: KNBC WX+ Weather, SD
5-1: KTLA-HD
7-1: KABC-HD
7-2: KABC second channel, SD
7-3: KABC Weather, SD
9-1: KCAL-HD
11-1: KTTV-HD
13-1: KCOP-HD
26-3: Cox-3, SD
26-69: KTBN, SD
50-1: KOCE-HD
50-2: KOCE-OC channel, SD
82-63: KOCE, SD
82-66: KDOC, SD
90-31: Public access, SD
90-67: KPXN, SD
90-70: KLCS, SD
90-82: KNBC, SD
90-83: KTLA, SD
90-85: KCAL, SD
90-86: KCBS, SD
90-87: KTTV, SD
90-88: KABC, SD
98-5: Public access, SD
98-12: Saddleback College, SD
102-1 to -127: Radio audio feeds
109-12: Sports on demand ad, SD
113-91: Asian channel, SD
114-9: On Demand ad, SD
116-9: Music Choice
127-332: CSPAN3, SD
127-915: KCET-HD

I went to update my BSG Subscriptions, I always thought BSG was on at 10pm, it seems the HD feed is the east feed as the episode begins at 7pm.

I went to update my BSG Subscriptions, I always thought BSG was on at 10pm, it seems the HD feed is the east feed as the episode begins at 7pm.
EDIT: Looking at my Tivo Guide yes you are right as there is a showing at 7:00pm tomorrow on 761, so this is the East coast feed. Perhaps there is no west coast version?
In any case it looks like 761 guide does match what is currently playing on the channel so I think the guide is correct to have the East coast schedule.

Forgot to give big kudos to Cox Orange County on the HD channel lineup. Compared to many other cable company lineups we have a pretty extensive lineup now, certainly everything that I would want. I know others are still waiting for more but at the pace things are going lately I'm sure there will be more added soon. Seem to be on schedule for the 100 HD channel goal by end of 2009 that Cox corporate is aspiring to provide (even though the goal of 50 HD channels by end of 2007 was not achieved).

Forgot to give big kudos to Cox Orange County on the HD channel lineup. Compared to many other cable company lineups we have a pretty extensive lineup now

I agree wholeheartedly. I might be over doing it, but I think this forum had something to do with the speed. I noticed after a month or so of D* rumblings amongst us, their website updates and HD selection slowly got rolling.

I honestly wish cox oc was more transparent and could clue us into insider stuff, considering it is cable tv and competition is pretty slight in their markets, how much would it hurt to say what their plans and launch dates are, it isn't nasa or anything.

But thanks Cox, you pulled it together over the past 5 months.

Don't stop :)

I'm still waiting for those 5 channels the other posts have mentioned. I live in the Palos Verdes area. And unlike the other posts, I'm not satisfied with COX and their HD lineup. CNBC HD isn't really HD at all (just 4x3 picture with HD graphics) and I've been told Bravo HD has only a minimal amount of Hd programming. COX will need to deliver as many as 60 channels by Summer's end to meet my demand.

I agree wholeheartedly. I might be over doing it, but I think this forum had something to do with the speed. I noticed after a month or so of D* rumblings amongst us, their website updates and HD selection slowly got rolling. As much as we'd like to think that I think it's more a case of corporate policy pushing for HD channels (in response to D* aggressive HD rollout) and the fact that Cox OC could not add any more channels until local bandwidth upgrades were completed as all the bandwidth was completely used. Once the node upgrades were completed in many areas the new HD channels were added very quickly. There is now still room for more HD channels without the need for SDV, but to reach the corporate target of 100 HD channels by end of 2009 SDV will have to be part of the equation. Hopefully the SDV rollout will follow the Cox Phoenix model where the least popular channels go SDV and Cox OC will be pro-actively lending tuning adapters free of charge to CableCard Tivo owners that want them.

Scifi HD on the east feed :) looks really good. In fact they are using a diff HD bug that when they have SD programming.

Scifi HD on the east feed :) looks really good. In fact they are using a diff HD bug that when they have SD programming.
Improvement in aliso viejo on the original HD Sci Fi feed. Kudos to Cox Comm. Now if only Sci FI would improve their original Sci FI movies.

The red record light on the display of this box still does not light. I understand from another poster that this is discussed as a known Moto issue on the Comcast Forum. Do any of you have the same issue with this box, and have you heard from Cox when they plan to restore the red record light through software upgrades?


Best Regards,
Larry

I got the same box...mine works. Have you tried holding the power button on the front on the unit untill you get boot then waiting untill you get the current time to see if that resolves your issue?

The red record light on the display of this box still does not light. I understand from another poster that this is discussed as a known Moto issue on the Comcast Forum. Do any of you have the same issue with this box, and have you heard from Cox when they plan to restore the red record light through software upgrades?


Best Regards,
Larry

Maybe I am confused, but didn't we have this same conversation back in April? I have reported the issue a couple of times (and the Dolby Digital issue, too), but no word yet on a fix. Last I heard (a couple months ago), it may be up to six months for the recording light issue anyway.

Scifi HD on the east feed :) looks really good. In fact they are using a diff HD bug that when they have SD programming. Just watched and unfortunately BSG also chose to use the "grainy HD look" filter which I think is awful... what's the point of HD if you introduce that grainy look? Personally I thought when jumping to commercials the picture looked better.

Just watched and unfortunately BSG also chose to use the "grainy HD look" filter which I think is awful... what's the point of HD if you introduce that grainy look? Personally I thought when jumping to commercials the picture looked better.

I don't watch the show, but is it possible they produce the show using film and the grain is intended film grain? I know this is the case with many Blu-ray discs, so perhaps it is a similar situation here???

Maybe I am confused, but didn't we have this same conversation back in April? I have reported the issue a couple of times (and the Dolby Digital issue, too), but no word yet on a fix. Last I heard (a couple months ago), it may be up to six months for the recording light issue anyway.


Yes, I did initiate the same discussion a couple of months ago, my discussions with Cox have been not been very helpful. They acknowledge the problem. Their grade for prioritizing and working customer concerns with allacrity and dispatch is in my opinion a "D+". Just was wondering if others have the same issue and how they are addressing it.

Best Regards,
Larry

Forgot to give big kudos to Cox Orange County on the HD channel lineup. Compared to many other cable company lineups we have a pretty extensive lineup now, certainly everything that I would want. I know others are still waiting for more but at the pace things are going lately I'm sure there will be more added soon. Seem to be on schedule for the 100 HD channel goal by end of 2009 that Cox corporate is aspiring to provide (even though the goal of 50 HD channels by end of 2007 was not achieved).


As a former Cox subsciber and now DirecTV subscriber (Cox is not available in the mobile home park where I now reside). I have to also say that I am impressed with the speed that Cox has given you guys HD. (I have 38 HD channels with the service level I get--you get some different that I do and vice versa). But over all , it looks like Cox has responded to the customer and the competition very nicely!

I've been reading all of the kudos for Cox and I do not concur. Lets see I couldn't get any of the Hockey in HD on VS., I can't get the Discovery Ch. Special on Space Exploration this week because I get the wrong Discovery Ch. in HD. No Speed, USA, FX or Sci Fi HD yet either. I buy everything they offer and I live in Lake Forest, we will be lucky to be up-graded by Xmas. I can't trim trees until October to get Directv, city rule.
Let's hope the up-grade comes sooner than later. BTW, is Cox trimming band-width recently??
The 702-713 HD, don't seem as sharp or crisp to me. 3416 HD DVR, Calibrated 50" Pani. Plasma with HDMI.

I've been reading all of the kudos for Cox and I do not concur. Lets see I couldn't get any of the Hockey in HD on VS., I can't get the Discovery Ch. Special on Space Exploration this week because I get the wrong Discovery Ch. in HD. No Speed, USA, FX or Sci Fi HD yet either. I buy everything they offer and I live in Lake Forest, we will be lucky to be up-graded by Xmas. I can't trim trees until October to get Directv, city rule.
Let's hope the up-grade comes sooner than later. BTW, is Cox trimming band-width recently??
The 702-713 HD, don't seem as sharp or crisp to me. 3416 HD DVR, Calibrated 50" Pani. Plasma with HDMI.

I agree, I'm also in Lake Forest, and they don't deserve kudos for channels that should already be available. It's 2008 for crying out loud. As soon as USA started broadcasting in HD that's when we should have gotten it. Also their 8 month HD roll out plan for orange county.. let's do 2 cities a month.. cmon.

Good points... I forgot there were still some cities where a bunch of the HD channels are still not available. Guess those that do have them all should consider themselves lucky.

Is there a definitive list for the Cox OC channels that do NOT have 5C protection enabled? Before I check each one.

http://members.cox.net/kevin.moye/Cox_OC_headend3.xls would be the closest thing

I agree, I'm also in Lake Forest, and they don't deserve kudos for channels that should already be available. It's 2008 for crying out loud. As soon as USA started broadcasting in HD that's when we should have gotten it. Also their 8 month HD roll out plan for orange county.. let's do 2 cities a month.. cmon.
Great service in Aliso Viejo. I don't know why we get all the new channels so quickly maybe the cable infrastructure here requires less upgrading. Although, all the various services add up.... $175.00 a month for the HD and the high speed internet. Good luck in LF and ET.

Well, at least here in MV things are approving. Feel for you other Cities!

The second I saw that we finally had SciFiHD, I thought of moyekj, I knew he'd be a happy man! :D

What would put me over the top is SpeedHD. Please all of you whether your a Race fan or not, LIE! Contact COX and tell them TV aint worth watching if you cant get SpeedHD and watch your Nascar in HD! Make sure to rub it in that your neighbor gets it with D*. :D

Not that I care about Nascar,(though I'm sure some of you do) but all my Sportscar racing in the States (American Lemans, the cars that will be at the 24hr of Lemans this coming weekend with 16hrs of coverage on Speed) is filmed in HD. Also while F1 is not filmed in HD, it is captured in a better feed that our US standard def, shows a nice boost in detail when uploaded to HD as shown in Fox's broadcast yesterday of the Canadian round of the F1 Championship! (And BMW got their first ever F1 Win as a constructor!!!!)

BTW, if your interested at all about the 24hrs of LeMans..download this 12mb pdf guide...it gives you history, schedules, spotterguides, maps, and way more then you need to know. A amazing document this group puts out every year. www.clubarnage.com/caguide/download.html

Great service in Aliso Viejo. I don't know why we get all the new channels so quickly maybe the cable infrastructure here requires less upgrading. Although, all the various services add up.... $175.00 a month for the HD and the high speed internet. Good luck in LF and ET.

Well I can only think that places like Irvine, Laguna Hills, Mission Viejo rolled out first because of more sports bars and stuff, but I would think most bars use Directv. I have no idea, I've never cared to ask ;)

Is Cox OC doing M-cards yet? I just got another TiVo HD and this 2 card thing is nonsense! :)

Is Cox OC doing M-cards yet? I just got another TiVo HD and this 2 card thing is nonsense! :) Yes, I believe so. Certainly the dual tuner Motorola DCH set top boxes are using single M-card and I believe there are other Tivo HD users in OC already with M-cards.

I got it figured out. Found some info (http://tivobeta3.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5694609#post5694609) through some searches and once I told them what to notate the install notes with, I was fine.

The CS/Billing people are not nearly as up to date as technology. Scary when I have to tell them what they have and what they don't have.

I got it figured out. Found some info (http://tivobeta3.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5694609#post5694609) through some searches and once I told them what to notate the install notes with, I was fine.

The CS/Billing people are not nearly as up to date as technology. Scary when I have to tell them what they have and what they don't have. Don't be surprised if the tech shows up with only 1 S-card (and one that doesn't work). :) You would think by now there would be an online method of pairing the cards to your account such that you can pick up the cards and install them yourself rather than requiring an expensive, time-consuming truck roll. From some reports in Tivo forums certain Comcast markets are now letting people do cable card self-installs and the first cable-card is free of charge.

Saw that about allowing customer installs for cable cards. That would be nice. I printed the TiVo instructions for the installer. This is my second TiVo HD and the one I have works great. 2 S-cards, so hoping to get that replaced this weekend. The first install was easy and has been trouble free. Hopefully this one is as well.

Also saw your posts on tivobeta3 and was going to send you a PM. Are you using M-cards over there in Mission Viejo?

Just started reading on MOCA networking....any issues with that on cable that was installed by the builder about 12 years ago? How about interference with cable modem/video?

Are you using M-cards over there in Mission Viejo? 4 S-cards for 2 S3 units. Seeing as S3 units don't support single M-cards anyway (unlike the newer THD units) there is no point in switching for me - plus the old adage applies "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!".

Yes, I believe so. Certainly the dual tuner Motorola DCH set top boxes are using single M-card and I believe there are other Tivo HD users in OC already with M-cards.

Do the M-cards allow for interactive viewing? (eg the non-pay ondemand programming)

4 S-cards for 2 S3 units. Seeing as S3 units don't support single M-cards anyway (unlike the newer THD units) there is no point in switching for me - plus the old adage applies "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!".
That's the truth. No desire for me to have installers here for 10 hours over 2 days again to figure their equipment out....

Just started reading on MOCA networking....any issues with that on cable that was installed by the builder about 12 years ago? How about interference with cable modem/video?
MOCA frequencies are typically above 1GHz, so it would not conflict with modem/video at all. What is probably the biggest risk you run with MOCA is if you have additional splitters to add to drops (to connect another device), which could cause additional attenuation to your modem/video drops themselves. But MOCA itself should be a clean addition.

MOCA frequencies are typically above 1GHz, so it would not conflict with modem/video at all. What is probably the biggest risk you run with MOCA is if you have additional splitters to add to drops (to connect another device), which could cause additional attenuation to your modem/video drops themselves. But MOCA itself should be a clean addition. Exactly, MOCA operates > 1GHz so no interference with video bandwidth (For OC that's at <= 850 MHz). The Motorola NIM100 MOCA devices do RF pass-through since they have an RF input and RF output port, so no additional splitters needed for those. I've been using 3 NIM100s for several months now with no trouble at all and no ill effects on video. I still can't believe how easy it is to set them up - hook them up and plug them in and there you have it!

The Motorola NIM100 MOCA devices do RF pass-through since they have an RF input and RF output port, so no additional splitters needed for those.
There's still bound to be _some_ level of added attenuation - but yeah, it's much better to have an integrated solution, as I assume they've optimized the design a bit better than the average splitter.

There's still bound to be _some_ level of added attenuation - but yeah, it's much better to have an integrated solution, as I assume they've optimized the design a bit better than the average splitter. Agreed, I was more pointing out the convenience of not needing any additional splitter. No doubt internally there is some impedance which leads to attenuation.

I've been getting 4 of the intended 5 Hd channels in TEST mode (852 -855). They are Bravo Hd, CNBC Hd, USA Hd, and Sci Fi Hd. However, I fiddled with my remote only to find an additional 14 blank TEST channels in the 800's. What does that mean?

Hopefully it means that we will have 14 new HD channels added with in the next month or two :)

Switched Digital Video (SDV) apparently is already deployed in Cox Orange County and from what I can tell from my CableCard Tivos, at least the following are all under SDV:
(Tuner does not map to a frequency when channel is selected)

107=JWLTV
109=LEAC109
110=SHOPNBC
317=WTHRSCN
319=FUEL
320=FITV
322=CCTV9
335=TVG
336=HRTV
347=FUSE
351=FLIVING
360=CMTPURE
363=FOXREAL
366=G4P
393=GOLTV
394=GALA
395=DEPELUS
396=THITUS
397=BANDA
398=MUN2P
399=TVNI

400-418=FOREIGN (17)

500-596=PPV (16)

601-684=SPORTS PACKAGES (30)

732=SCIHD
753=TRAVHD
772=APLHD

I can confirm that Cox has M-Cards in OC. I have 3 Tivo HDs, each with an M-Card.

Interesting story this weekend... one of my Tivos seemed to have lost all ability to tune after the Tivo was mistakenly told to repeat the guided setup. No big deal, figured Cox had to do something on their end. Called, explained, and the tech said he reset the pairing. Channels should be back in 5.

10 minutes later, still no channels. Call back in and as I'm talking to the 2nd tech I realize the Tivo and cable from the wall had become separated (:(). Aside from feeling like a dope, it turns out whatever the first tech did reset the other two cable cards in the house. No more premium channels! Cox ended up having to roll a truck out and re-pair two of my cablecards.

Interesting troubleshooting tip came out of it. Don't trust the cablecard pairing display that appears on the Tivo HD if you tune to an unauthorized (premium) channel. It showed different data values than going through the menu.

this is weird - I tuned in to STRZ HD (781) about 10 minutes ago to watch "LA Confidential" one of my favorite movies and I hadn't seen it in high def before - but instead the tail end of "Hairspray" was being shown - which was supposed to be on HBOE HD (701)! And it was also on 701; the correct movie was on 281 but of course not on HD. After the screen credits ended, it continued to broadcast the HBO channel on 781.

So I'm new to this forum, but I was wondering if anybody has experienced really low sound volume on their HD channels. I always have this problem with either NBC (704) or ABC (707). Every other HD channel is fine and I can listen to it at say level 20 on the volume, but I have to jack it up to like 40 in order to hear the same level of sound. I have spoken to Cox and they did not find an issue. I live in Aliso Viejo.

Do the M-cards allow for interactive viewing? (eg the non-pay ondemand programming)

no it doesn't matter what type of cable cards the tivo's have until the hardware is 2 way the interactive services will not work.

Hopefully it means that we will have 14 new HD channels added with in the next month or two :)

Omaha has been testing a few new HD channels for 3-4 months and a few customers have them, but the rest of the Omaha system still is waiting.

Can you tell us what they are AJ?

Can you tell us what they are AJ?

740 - NFLHD
758 - AMCHD
816 - SCNHD (Science HD)
840 - M HD (Music HD)

Travel channelHD CinemaxHD, StarzHD and we are finally getting them plus LifetimeHD,MTVU and MTV Tr3's are launching at the end of June. Travel,Cinemax, and Starz were supposed to lauch earlier, but something happened.

Omaha is also droping weatherscan

Hope this is the right forum.

I live on the mountains in Irvine (Turtle Ridge), and have Cox cable. I am interested to know if anyone have tried antenna to receive HDTV?

Either commercial or DIY antenna work for HD stations (considering ridding of Cox)?, I am usually watching local news etc.

thanks,

gychang

Can you tell us what they are AJ? Omaha seems to be way behind on the HD channel front if this page is accurate:
http://cox.com/omaha/digitalcable/hdtv/hdchannels.asp

Hope this is the right forum.

I live on the mountains in Irvine (Turtle Ridge), and have Cox cable. I am interested to know if anyone have tried antenna to receive HDTV?

Either commercial or DIY antenna work for HD stations (considering ridding of Cox)?, I am usually watching local news etc.

thanks,

gychang Yes, I'm quite a bit further south than you in Mission Viejo and can receive a lot of channels over the air, including all the HD locals. I use a cheap ($20-30) indoor amplified UHF antenna which sits in my garage.
If you have an unobstructed path to NW direction there's a good chance you can tune all the HD local stations. These days I don't record much from OTA channels as the Cox feeds are just as good and I have no plans to drop cable any time soon.
Quite a few others living in OC have posted in this thread that use Over The Air antennas for reception with varying degrees of success. It's a pretty cheap experiment to give it a shot... The direction and line of sight are the keys to get it to work. Trees, hills, buildings, etc. in your line of sight are your enemy.

Hope this is the right forum.

I live on the mountains in Irvine (Turtle Ridge), and have Cox cable. I am interested to know if anyone have tried antenna to receive HDTV?

Either commercial or DIY antenna work for HD stations (considering ridding of Cox)?, I am usually watching local news etc.

thanks,

gychang

You might want to check out the Los Angeles OTA AVS forum at:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=191672

I'm in Rancho Santa Margarita and have an antenna in my attic. I can get all the Los Angeles OTA stations, although some (11, 13, 28) can be iffy at times.

Also, try http://www.tvfool.com/. It should give you an idea of what you can pick up at your location.

So I'm new to this forum, but I was wondering if anybody has experienced really low sound volume on their HD channels. I always have this problem with either NBC (704) or ABC (707). Every other HD channel is fine and I can listen to it at say level 20 on the volume, but I have to jack it up to like 40 in order to hear the same level of sound. I have spoken to Cox and they did not find an issue. I live in Aliso Viejo.

I have the same issue and live in Mission Viejo (Felipe/Oso) area. Currently I have the optical out from the Cox box running straight into my receiver, but was thinking about trying some different setup options to see if that alleviates the problem.

Check first if the OTA feed does the same thing. It could be how the audio is sent to cox. (ie not cox's fault)

Anyone getting audio sync issues on FoodHD? Been really bad for a few days. All other channels seem just fine.

Anyone getting audio sync issues on FoodHD? Been really bad for a few days. All other channels seem just fine.


I've been seeing that as well on most of my HD channels, but FoodHD has been the worst.

Anyone getting audio sync issues on FoodHD? Been really bad for a few days. All other channels seem just fine. Just tuned it on 1 of my Tivos. Both commercials and programming (Essence of Emeril) were just fine for me. Is the problem perpetual for all programming/commercials on that channel or is it particular shows?

Is Cox OC doing M-cards yet? I just got another TiVo HD and this 2 card thing is nonsense! :)

Yes. I have had one in my Series 3 for about 6 months. They originally told me they had no such thing and that I would have to lease 2 cards. The installer told me that was nonsense and that most cards being deployed were multi-stream. Naturally Cox still tried to get away with billing me for 2 cards :p Go Cox!

On a similar note, has anyone heard much about the TiVo dongle/tuning resolver/whatever you want to call it? It was supposed to be available by Q2 but clearly that didn't happen. I want my damn G4 back!

On a similar note, has anyone heard much about the TiVo dongle/tuning resolver/whatever you want to call it? It was supposed to be available by Q2 but clearly that didn't happen. I want my damn G4 back! It's now known officially as a "Tuning Adapter". Lots of information on this if you search Tivo forums with SDV as keywords. For example, see the following links:
Demo of Motorola Tuning Adapter with Tivo at this year's Cable Show (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/18/hands-on-with-the-motorola-tuning-adapter-mtr700/)
Cox, Phoenix to provide free tuning adapter to Tivo CableCard customers when available (http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-06/phoenix-cox-customers-getting-sdv-71-free-tuning-adapter/)

It's now known officially as a "Tuning Adapter". Lots of information on this if you search Tivo forums with SDV as keywords. For example, see the following links:
Demo of Motorola Tuning Adapter with Tivo at this year's Cable Show (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/18/hands-on-with-the-motorola-tuning-adapter-mtr700/)
Cox, Phoenix to provide free tuning adapter to Tivo CableCard customers when available (http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-06/phoenix-cox-customers-getting-sdv-71-free-tuning-adapter/)
I am more interested with regards to any word from Cox OC specifically but thanks for the links (I am an Engadget addict so I had seen that one :)).

I am more interested with regards to any word from Cox OC specifically but thanks for the links (I am an Engadget addict so I had seen that one :)). Cox OC sent out a letter about SDV months before the Tuning Adapter demos happened, so at the time they did not include any information about Tuning Adapters as was the case with Cox, Phoenix. I sent an email to Cox OC back on April 22 asking if they would be supporting the upcoming Tuning Adapters and this was the response:
Thank you for your reply. Once third party 2 way cable card devices
and/or adapters are released, we will be able provide SDV channels to
our cable card customers. We don't have any word yet on whether they
will be provided by Cox for rent or purchase or if they will be a third
party purchased item. I would encourage you to ask about it as well to see if the response has changed in light of the recent Tuning Adapter developments (and the Cox, Phoenix letter about SDV):
https://www.cox.com/support/ocpv/emailchat/emailus.asp

I've been seeing that as well on most of my HD channels, but FoodHD has been the worst.

On my new cox unit (the unit with the no record light) I've noticed the sync to be completely off to the point we watch normal SD channels....

On my old cox unit I don't have any sync issues at all....

So that means it would have to be the box and not the HD channels?

Call em up and ask to replace it...then exchange it tomorrow in RSM. If you continue to have the problems it could be your TV or most likely the wiring into your house/neighborhood

Call em up and ask to replace it...then exchange it tomorrow in RSM. If you continue to have the problems it could be your TV or most likely the wiring into your house/neighborhood Given that the older Cox box has no sync issues I've got to believe the issue is with the newer model box firmware. But more details are needed on the exact connections being used to TV and/or amp.

Perhaps I am just not remembering well, but did the Cox online HD channel lineup always have extra blank channels (e.g. 712, 742, 743, etc.)?

If you go to this link, you will see quite a few channel placeholders. While I am sure Cox will eventually utilize most or all of the non-used 7## channels, it seems this is a recent change and perhaps a sign of near-term changes afoot.

http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/programming.asp

Perhaps I am just not remembering well, but did the Cox online HD channel lineup always have extra blank channels (e.g. 712, 742, 743, etc.)?

If you go to this link, you will see quite a few channel placeholders. While I am sure Cox will eventually utilize most or all of the non-used 7## channels, it seems this is a recent change and perhaps a sign of near-term changes afoot.

http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/programming.asp Yeah I noticed that a few days ago and wondered if the TEST channels may eventually go into those spots, but the numbering of some of the blank channels do not really seem to correspond to anything meaningful in sub 100 channel range that would have equivalent channel in HD, so I just assumed it was purely for "cosmetic" purposes for displaying channel lineup.

...but the numbering of some of the blank channels do not really seem to correspond to anything meaningful in sub 100 channel range that would have equivalent channel in HD, so I just assumed it was purely for "cosmetic" purposes for displaying channel lineup.

Yes, I saw that, too, but they have recently added a few SD channels, MTVU, CHILLER, etc., and at some point, it may become difficult for them to continue to follow the same channel logic as the sub-100 channels, yet still bring other HD channels. Perhaps it is just wishful thinking on my part.

That being said, I am pretty darn happy with the lineup as stands. I think we are all caught up in the euphoria of having any HD channels added (particularly as we have all previously seen Cox move at such a snail pace) , even if they are not great. If I had to vote, though, I would like to see more PPV (or even any) HD channels, but at least Fox News HD, and perhaps Nickelodeon and Disney for my kids.

At this point I'm quite happy with the HD channel lineup. What I really would like is for Cox HSI standard upload speed to be 2 Mbps as it's been for years in Cox, Virginia and other Cox markets. 512 Kbps upload is pitiful and Slingbox looks very bad. It's not worth $15/month more to get up to only 1 Mbps either. I'd gladly trade off higher download speeds for higher upload speeds if that was an option.

What I really would like is for Cox HSI standard upload speed to be 2 Mbps as it's been for years in Cox, Virginia and other Cox markets. 512 Kbps upload is pitiful and Slingbox looks very bad. It's not worth $15/month more to get up to only 1 Mbps either. I'd gladly trade off higher download speeds for higher upload speeds if that was an option.

Yes, very much so agreed, but unless you've heard otherwise, I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope. I would think Cox' main bandwidth utilization is download and they are probably getting huge cost savings by peering with a partner that may better utilize the upload side - at least that was the case when I was in the media streaming business a few years back. As long as this is the case, I don't see the price coming down to a level commensurate with the benefit - as you so well pointed out.

In addition to the new SD channels I mentioned above, the Menu option has changed quite a bit. No more of that archaic Press A for more. Now it is a slick shortcut menu when you first press menu and then when menu is pressed again, it goes in to the more traditional secondary menu system we are accustomed to - pretty cool.

The time on all three of my boxen here in Irvine, 92606 (2x 6416, 1x 3416) are off by about 30 seconds slow- even after a reboot- so the beginning of all my shows are cut off (and verified by the output of "rdate" to a NIST timeserver).

Of course, an E-mail to Cox TS got blown off (and when this happened for a while last year, I got the standard boilerplate about how the time is set via the internet).

Is anyone else having time issues?

... the Menu option has changed quite a bit. ... Now it is a slick shortcut menu
All I ever used the Menu for was turning on CC; it's now a lot more keystrokes. :(

Today I received a email from The Motion Picture Association of America which states Cox Communication of Orange County has advised them that I downloaded or transmitted copyrighted material (Cloverfield). Since I live alone and have never downloaded any movies I am somewhat surprised. I called Cox and they said maybe someone tapped into my wireless network. This ever happen to anyone else. For $175.00 a month for all the HD channels and phone service plus high speed internet why didn't Cox contact me. thanks in advance .

Today I received a email from The Motion Picture Association of America which states Cox Communication of Orange County has advised them that I downloaded or transmitted copyrighted material (Cloverfield). Since I live alone and have never downloaded any movies I am somewhat surprised. I called Cox and they said maybe someone tapped into my wireless network. This ever happen to anyone else. For $175.00 a month for all the HD channels and phone service plus high speed internet why didn't Cox contact me. thanks in advance . Wow, Big Brother is watching! Are you not using WPA encryption for your wireless setup? That should keep the casual neighbors out. Could be you have a trojan/virus as well...

The time on all three of my boxen here in Irvine, 92606 (2x 6416, 1x 3416) are off by about 30 seconds slow- even after a reboot- so the beginning of all my shows are cut off (and verified by the output of "rdate" to a NIST timeserver).

Of course, an E-mail to Cox TS got blown off (and when this happened for a while last year, I got the standard boilerplate about how the time is set via the internet).

Is anyone else having time issues?

Yup! It has been going on for about a month now but I have just been too lazy to complain. The beginning is cut off on all of my shows. Maybe I'll give Cox a call tomorrow so they don't think its just you.

Yup! It has been going on for about a month now but I have just been too lazy to complain. The beginning is cut off on all of my shows. Maybe I'll give Cox a call tomorrow so they don't think its just you.

same here; its somewhat annoying; although I do most of my recording on a homebuilt linux-based computer system runnng mythtv, so I usually just schedule the recording to start 1 minute early and then add the the leading 30+ seconds to the cutlist (if its not already flagged by the commercial flag software).

I noticed last night USAHD on 722. The good, I was able to see the Olympic Swimming, and Track and Field. The Bad very pixelated, anyone else notice??? I was able to go head to head with the Directv HD feed and it looked brighter, clearer and sharper on Direc. Usually it's the other way around. Is Cox band width rate shaping, or just getting the channels set up??
The guide said CNNHD on Ch. 750 but it was CNBC HD, except it wasn't HD
Making a bit of progress, still way behind D, but we'll see how the channels roll out.

I discovered USAHD-722 a couple of weeks ago, and have been watching "Burn Notice" and "In Plain Sight" several times in that time and haven't really noticed any PQ issues.

So Lake Forest ahead of schedule got 3 new HD Channels. USA, CNN, which is actually msnbc not in HD, and Science, which doesn't load. Hey 1 out of 3 is... progress? Hopefully they don't take them away this time.

I noticed last night USAHD on 722. The good, I was able to see the Olympic Swimming, and Track and Field. The Bad very pixelated, anyone else notice??? I was able to go head to head with the Directv HD feed and it looked brighter, clearer and sharper on Direc. Usually it's the other way around. Is Cox band width rate shaping, or just getting the channels set up??
The guide said CNNHD on Ch. 750 but it was CNBC HD, except it wasn't HD
Making a bit of progress, still way behind D, but we'll see how the channels roll out.

Looks like we posted at almost the same time, yes USA was kind of pixelated.

Got an e-mail today that cox added some new stations though I have had the new stations now for at least a month...
http://www.cox.com/ocpv/mass_email/eon_hdtv_now_available_031708/email_oc.htm

I checked out the 3 new HD channels in L. Forest again last night, USA HD looked a little better. Ch. 750 is currently CNBC HD, and there is no HD shown at least at night.
The guide says CNN HD. What Ch. should it be???

The time on all three of my boxen ... are off by about 30 seconds slow ... Is anyone else having time issues?

Yup! It has been going on for about a month now but I have just been too lazy to complain.

same here; its somewhat annoying

WOW- I dunno if y'all have more pull than I do at Cox (or more probably, someone at Cox who could fix this reads this forum :)) but it's fixed now here!

Gotta love the AVSForum!

I have Cox HD service in Irvine (92602), I have what I think are the latest Motorolla DVR/HD boxes. The red record light does not come on, and when two shows are recorded simultaneously, the Dolby sound setting in the box reverts to PCM. To restore the Dolby setting you need to do a hard reset to the Moto box.

I would like to go over to the Cox store on Sand Canyon and get an upgraded box. Does anyone know what the latest Moto DVR/HD box model number the Sand Canyon store is providing to walk-ins?

Best Regards,
Larry

I checked out the 3 new HD channels in L. Forest again last night, USA HD looked a little better. Ch. 750 is currently CNBC HD, and there is no HD shown at least at night.
The guide says CNN HD. What Ch. should it be???

according to http://www.cox.com/ocpv/hdtv/programming.asp
it should be CNBC HD because CNN HD is 714 so the guide is wrong, and the channel is wrong because it's not HD ;):rolleyes:

Just like ch 713 CNBC HD does not air that many HD programs

Hi, question about clear qam and cox OC.

When digital goes away next year will more channels be available or will they still be encrypted? I have cox premium with HD-DVR, etc.. and get the locals on clear QAM, but tons on analog. After the switch to all digital in '09 will TV tuner cards be stuck with the minimal set of network broadcasts?

TIA

The switch to digital is for ATSC over the air signals. It wont be untill 2012 that cable provides will have to switch from analog to digital

The switch to digital is for ATSC over the air signals. It wont be untill 2012 that cable provides will have to switch from analog to digital

Ahh got it thanks. So I guess I have more time to worry, but any idea of when cable switches if they will provide the same number of channels as they do not, but via the digital signal?

The switch to digital is for ATSC over the air signals. It wont be untill 2012 that cable provides will have to switch from analog to digital

not true cox or any cable company can convert to all digital if they want.

This may be true but I remember reading that cox will be hanging onto its analog channels. Any ways the adds from the FCC are promoting that anyone with satelite or cable will still be fine.

This may be true but I remember reading that cox will be hanging onto its analog channels. Any ways the adds from the FCC are promoting that anyone with satelite or cable will still be fine.

actually cable doesn't have to switch all digital, but the FCC is requiring cable to provide analog to 2012 unless they go all digital and provide some way for analog customers to get service.

I have Cox HD service in Irvine (92602), I have what I think are the latest Motorolla DVR/HD boxes. The red record light does not come on, and when two shows are recorded simultaneously, the Dolby sound setting in the box reverts to PCM. To restore the Dolby setting you need to do a hard reset to the Moto box.

I would like to go over to the Cox store on Sand Canyon and get an upgraded box. Does anyone know what the latest Moto DVR/HD box model number the Sand Canyon store is providing to walk-ins?

Best Regards,
Larry

I was in there about 10 days ago to exchange an SD box for an HD box and they gave me the Moto 3416.

I know this is a thread for Cox OC, but I'm looking to troubleshoot some issues getting a valid channel lineup for TWC Newport Beach (Digital). The channel numbers listed on the web channel lineup and schedulesdirect.org don't match with what the TV scans.

Any help - or a pointer to a channels.conf file would be fantastic.

Thanks!

It looks like NBC Universal has launched a new HD sports channel called Univeral Sports. It will be providing un interupted coverage of the olympic games next month. Please e-mail cox to petition on having this and any other channel you want added. You can do so at https://cox.com/support/ocpv/emailchat/emailus.asp

http://www.universalsports.com/
http://broadcastengineering.com/news/nbcu-readies-olympics-channel-0711/

I was in there about 10 days ago to exchange an SD box for an HD box and they gave me the Moto 3416.

Likewise. Went in there to start new (HD DVR) service a week ago and got the Motorola DCH3416.

Hello,

I recently switched boxes, after the original bricked after a software update. When I turned it on, I was missing a few HD channels. I called in and they were able to restore it so the channels show up on my guide.

However, a bunch of the channels (MHD, DISC HD, CNN HD, etc) are showing a "to subscribe to this channel please call customer service" screen. The tech support guy I talked to said they were "doing an upgrade in your area" and the channels wouldn't be available until it was done. Does this sound familiar to anyone or was he BSing me to get me to go away? Should I call back today?

Thanks in advance.

Hello,

I recently switched boxes, after the original bricked after a software update. When I turned it on, I was missing a few HD channels. I called in and they were able to restore it so the channels show up on my guide.

However, a bunch of the channels (MHD, DISC HD, CNN HD, etc) are showing a "to subscribe to this channel please call customer service" screen. The tech support guy I talked to said they were "doing an upgrade in your area" and the channels wouldn't be available until it was done. Does this sound familiar to anyone or was he BSing me to get me to go away? Should I call back today?

Thanks in advance.

Just wait till tomorrow. It should clear up by then.

Just wait till tomorrow. It should clear up by then.

Woot, thanks for the reply. It indeed cleared up!

For the record, I exchanged it two days ago and got the DCH3200 (http://developer.motorola.com/products/settops/dch3200/) (non-DVR). It has HDMI! My old one didn't.

I used to be a Cox subscriber, but one thing that made me switch to Dish was their vip DVR which can be used with two tv's. you choose one as the primary which is HD, and the other is just SD going over coax (RF). For those who have more than one tv in the house, do you guys just lease a 2nd HD DVR or a SD DVR etc? The convenience of having a central DVR for both rooms is kinda nice. Like if you're watching something late at night, and want to finish it up stairs, its easy to do that.
Has the software on the motorola dvr's improved much since last year?

I used to be a Cox subscriber, but one thing that made me switch to Dish was their vip DVR which can be used with two tv's. you choose one as the primary which is HD, and the other is just SD going over coax (RF). For those who have more than one tv in the house, do you guys just lease a 2nd HD DVR or a SD DVR etc? The convenience of having a central DVR for both rooms is kinda nice. Like if you're watching something late at night, and want to finish it up stairs, its easy to do that.
Has the software on the motorola dvr's improved much since last year? Too bad the multi-room capability is limited to SD only. There are some nice features in the VIP 722 overall and certainly a much more capable system than the Motorola solution (which really hasn't changed much at all the past 2 years or so), but I think overall Tivos still have the best overall capabilities, including HD multi-room viewing.

OK I've been really out of the loop but tivo?? oh wait! i remember now...there was talk about these new tivo's that would work with a cable card.
so that works now? with cox??
interesting!
i'll have to check that out.

OK I've been really out of the loop but tivo?? oh wait! i remember now...there was talk about these new tivo's that would work with a cable card.
so that works now? with cox??
interesting!
i'll have to check that out. The Tivo series 3 has been out for over 1.5 years now and the cheaper Tivo HD units have been available for a while as well and both take cablecards (Tivo HD needs only 1 multi-stream card). For a while the threat of Switched Digital Video loomed over like a dark cloud over these Tivos, but now a solution for that has been announced and demonstrated and is currently under certification & field testing. If you want to wait longer (perhaps a year or so) supposedly a Series 4 Tivo is in the works that will be based on OpenCable Tru2way platform that will allow full 2-way communications to support functions such as PPV & VOD and other interactive services that the current units do not support. I never used PPV/VOD with Cox boxes so that functionality doesn't interest me much anyway so I'm very happy with my Series 3 boxes. It's nice to have proper multi-room viewing and ability to transfer shows off the Tivos to a PC and portable media players in addition to all the other Tivo functionality.

It looks like channel 4 news finally got their act together today and is broadcasting in HD.

Whoo hoo, all the HD channels are now available in San Clemente!

-chuck-

It looks like channel 4 news finally got their act together today and is broadcasting in HD.


Yeah I noticed that too... except all their news feeds are still SD :rolleyes:

This happened to RF 31 a while back. Now it is RF 86. (see below)
Cox cable goofing around again.

Channel 31
1: 7.1 KABC-HD
3: 11.1 KTTV HD
4: 7.2 KABC SD
5: 7.3 KABC-WN

Channel 84
315: 4.2 WX-Plus
450: 4.1 KNBC HD

Channel 85
1: 9.1 KCALHD
3: 2.1 KCBSHD

Channel 86
1: 0.0
2: 0.0
5: 0.0
6: 0.0

Just got an email from Cox saying that High Speed Internet speeds just got faster. Without PowerBoost (which is only useful for small files that don't require sustained speeds) the speeds for preferred are now:
Downstream: 9 Mbps (12 Mbps with PowerBoost according to Cox)
Upstream: 768 Kbps (1 Mbps with PowerBoost according to Cox)
(Of course in the email the hype it says that upload speeds actually doubled with the addition of PowerBoost)
http://cox.com/ocpv/highspeedinternet/pricing.asp

The upstream increase I noticed right away today as I tried Slingbox and can now get sustained upload speeds around 768 Kbps. This is a good illustration where PowerBoost doesn't help me at all and I don't get the advertised upload speed of 1 Mbps.
In any case, any speedup is welcome. These are still slow compared to other Cox markets like Fairfax VA who have had 2 Mbps upload speeds standard for their preferred package.

I also noticed in the link I provided above that they officially offer a cheaper "value" HSI package for $26.95/month (1.5Mbps down, 256Kbps up) which I don't recall seeing officially advertised before (though I believe over the phone you could get this option before as well).

Whoo hoo, all the HD channels are now available in San Clemente!

-chuck-

I'm noticing that Cox is generally rolling out the HD channels a month in advanced of what they said. So maybe lake forest will get them in October, or even in September since no town is scheduled to receive anything in October. I also got a postcard in the mail saying they were upgrading the network in my area this week and I wouldn't have any service for a few hours.

Just got an email from Cox saying that High Speed Internet speeds just got faster. Without PowerBoost (which is only useful for small files that don't require sustained speeds) the speeds for preferred are now:
Downstream: 9 Mbps (12 Mbps with PowerBoost according to Cox)
Upstream: 768 Kbps (1 Mbps with PowerBoost according to Cox)
(Of course in the email the hype it says that upload speeds actually doubled with the addition of PowerBoost)
http://cox.com/ocpv/highspeedinternet/pricing.asp

The upstream increase I noticed right away today as I tried Slingbox and can now get sustained upload speeds around 768 Kbps. This is a good illustration where PowerBoost doesn't help me at all and I don't get the advertised upload speed of 1 Mbps.
In any case, any speedup is welcome. These are still slow compared to other Cox markets like Fairfax VA who have had 2 Mbps upload speeds standard for their preferred package.

I also noticed in the link I provided above that they officially offer a cheaper "value" HSI package for $26.95/month (1.5Mbps down, 256Kbps up) which I don't recall seeing officially advertised before (though I believe over the phone you could get this option before as well).

I have the premier package and i have not noticed any difference, if anything i've noticed is that my online gaming is getting worse lately because i notice that my ping will start out from 68 etc and keep going up and up over a short period of time, if i disconnect and join again it starts low and raises again...

I have the premier package and i have not noticed any difference, if anything i've noticed is that my online gaming is getting worse lately because i notice that my ping will start out from 68 etc and keep going up and up over a short period of time, if i disconnect and join again it starts low and raises again... Last night I ran several internet connection speed tests at home and got quite impressive results (12 Mbps/2Mbps up to San Francisco server, a little slower to LA server). Also today I tweaked my Slingbox setup and now I'm getting closer to 1 Mbps sustained upload speeds, so certainly for me the improvements are obvious.

OK, maybe I'm nuts, but didn't we have "PowerBoost" already? I have the 12M/1M service and I know for a fact I was able to download (incompressible) Linux kernel files at a little under 2MByte/sec (~20MBit/sec) for a while (? 6mos?) now.

OK, maybe I'm nuts, but didn't we have "PowerBoost" already? I have the 12M/1M service and I know for a fact I was able to download (incompressible) Linux kernel files at a little under 2MByte/sec (~20MBit/sec) for a while (? 6mos?) now. Yes, PowerBoost was already there, but the base download/upload speeds (without PowerBoost) were configured lower. I think the base speeds for preferred were something like 6 Mbps/512 Kbps, now they are are 9 Mbps/768 Kbps. Kernel files are pretty small and thus can benefit from short bursts of speed PowerBoost can supply. In fact if you run the Speakeasy (http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/) test you will see pretty wide fluctuations in results. Just now I ran with SF server and got 9263/3232 Kbps. It's pretty evident that the PowerBoost is really helping the smaller upload file test more than the larger download file, but I've seen cases as well where the download speed has gone up to 12000 Kbps. Of course cable modems being on a shared bandwidth system there is no guarantee that you can't go lower than the base rates either at any point in time...

EDIT: speedtest.net result from just a short time ago:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/297642279.png

Kernel files are pretty small
Eh? The source tar bzip2 archives are hovering around 49MB now, and the upload speed was pretty consistent. Here's tonights's result, from ftp.kernel.org (which is even better than before):
ncftp /pub/linux/kernel/v2.6 > get linux-2.6.25.11.tar.bz2
linux-2.6.25.11.tar.bz2: 46.37 MB 3.11 MB/s
ncftp /pub/linux/kernel/v2.6 >

FYI, the Switched Digital Video Tuning (SDV) Adapters (both for Motorola and Cisco) have been officially CableLabs certified. These are devices that will work with current Tivo CableCard units to allow reception of SDV channels.
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6579511.html

Also, Tivo is currently rolling out a software update that contains support for these Tuning Adapters. So the infrastructure is now in place and all that remains is perhaps a testing phase by Tivo and availability of the units from cable companies.

I must say when we first got SciFi HD channel and I viewed Battlestar Galactica I was very disappointed because of the intentional "grainy look filter" applied to the HD version (not a Cox issue). However, watching "Stargate Atlantis, The Seed" last night the picture quality was quite phenomenal. 1 hour episode was amost 8GB in size which implies about 18 Mbps bit rate which is about the highest I've seen for a Cox OC HD channel.

USA HD on the other hand continues to underwhelm me. For example, a 1 hour Monk episode is only 5.5 GB, or 1 hour Burn Notice is 5.9 GB. Doesn't surprise me as NBC/Universal have a terrible track record for HD broadcasting quality (and yet they maintain exclusive on Olympics coverage unfortunately).

I must say when we first got SciFi HD channel and I viewed Battlestar Galactica I was very disappointed because of the intentional "grainy look filter" applied to the HD version (not a Cox issue). However, watching "Stargate Atlantis, The Seed" last night the picture quality was quite phenomenal. 1 hour episode was amost 8GB in size which implies about 18 Mbps bit rate which is about the highest I've seen for a Cox OC HD channel.

USA HD on the other hand continues to underwhelm me. For example, a 1 hour Monk episode is only 5.5 GB, or 1 hour Burn Notice is 5.9 GB. Doesn't surprise me as NBC/Universal have a terrible track record for HD broadcasting quality (and yet they maintain exclusive on Olympics coverage unfortunately).

I agree USA HD looks pretty bad, I don't have SciFi HD so I can't comment however SciFi is also a NBC/Universal channel.

I agree USA HD looks pretty bad, I don't have SciFi HD so I can't comment however SciFi is also a NBC/Universal channel. That's exactly why I was surprised SciFi HD was so good given NBC/Universal track record on HD.

I am able to compare the Cox HD and Directv HD feeds head to head. Watching Burn Notice last Thursday night was eye opening. The DTV USA HD feed was MUCH better than the Cox bit starved HD Lite. We just got USA a couple of weeks ago in Lake Forest but apparently it's a system wide issue. The Mary McCormick show and Monk also look much better on D. Cox is obviously pinching band-width, lets hope they re-think it soon.

Ray: That is interesting, because I always thought D* was using MPEG4 compression, so they are using LESS bandwidth. Now PQ is an issue Cox should address with USA

Ray: That is interesting, because I always thought D* was using MPEG4 compression, so they are using LESS bandwidth. Now PQ is an issue Cox should address with USA Yes that would be quite a turn of events as the term "HDLite" came from D* and E* practices for several years of downrezzing HD. My guess is that Cox OC source for that channel is where the problem lies, not that Cox is doing much of anything to degrade it. Still no excuse however - the source needs to be the best available.

OK, maybe I'm nuts, but didn't we have "PowerBoost" already? I have the 12M/1M service and I know for a fact I was able to download (incompressible) Linux kernel files at a little under 2MByte/sec (~20MBit/sec) for a while (? 6mos?) now.

I'm getting close to 20mbit down from Giganews for HOURS at a time. Tested my upload and getting close to 2.5mbit. I see a difference!

I'm getting close to 20mbit down from Giganews for HOURS at a time. Tested my upload and getting close to 2.5mbit. I see a difference! Yes, the upload speeds especially seem to be vastly improved. Using Slingbox I'm getting sustained upload speeds around 1 Mbps which is double what I was getting before the recent upgrade. (The various network testing sites use smaller files in short burts that benefit from PowerBoost, but sustained speed is what interests me).

Yes, the upload speeds especially seem to be vastly improved. Using Slingbox I'm getting sustained upload speeds around 1 Mbps which is double what I was getting before the recent upgrade. (The various network testing sites use smaller files in short burts that benefit from PowerBoost, but sustained speed is what interests me).

cox is now using power boost on the uploads as well as downloads.

cox is now using power boost on the uploads as well as downloads. I know, but that doesn't help for prolonged, sustained speedup needed by applications such as Slingbox.

Here's a copy of my latest speed test from the other night, so i'm guessing i'm getting some nice speed - just doesn't help in the 'game' world....

I also remember seeing a cox survey about them bring out a 'gamers' package soon.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/297626676.png

Sorry if I am in the wrong Forum.

I live in zip code 92673. I have Cox but am considering also placing a Terk antenna on my roof for OTA to my Pioneer Kuro.

Considering I am about half-way inbetween Los Angeles antennas and San Diego antennas, the ocean is to my left, and a large hill is to my right, should I bother doing this? My second story roof is pretty high.

I am interested in this for the extras you supposedly get like the pop-up menus during programming, etc.

Is it worth it?