Must be great!
Renaissance - Song Of Scherherezade DVD
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The first ever DVD to feature one of the great progressive-rock bands of all time! Song Of Scheherezade features 2 classic live shows: One from a 1976 US tour (Capitol Theatre - Passiac, NJ), and another show from 1979 (Convention Hall - Asbury ... Full DescriptionPark, NJ). Renaissance were originally formed in the late 1960 s by ex-Yardbirds members Keith Relf, and Jim McCarty but both eventually departed leaving the classic line-up of Annie Haslam (Vocals), John Tout (piano), Jon Camp (bass pedals/Vocals) and Terence Sullivan (drums). The later line-up were responsible for the groups most recognized albums Prologue (1972), Ashes Are Burning (1973) and Turn Of The Cards (1975) and Scheherezade and Other Stories (1976) which gained the group a significant fanbase in the US and led to hits in many other countries including UK top ten single Northern Lights.

Renaissance, one of England’s most beloved progressive rock bands, performs some of its most beautiful tracks, including "Song of Scheherazade."

Is this a re-release of the now unavailable Ten Years After - Live at the Marquee?



Yes I'm pretty sure it is.

"The band reunites to perform a show celebrating the 25th anniversary of London's famous Marquee venue in 1983."

June 16th will be a big day for new releases, most are from the distributor MVD. http://mvdb2b.com/book/

Hair of the Dog:Live from London - Nazareth

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All or Nothing: Live from London - Steve Marriott

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Thanks for the heads-up Artslinger!!
I'll look for these two!

-t

Must be great!
Renaissance - Song Of Scherherezade DVD
http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/14/2657014.jpgIf the recordings are from 1976 and 1979, and not one of those "reunion tours", you can be sure it'll be excellent.

The 1979 performances will undoubtedly include stuff from "Azure d'Or" (and "A Song For All Seasons" and "Novella" before it), but they were still very good at that point.

(Don't need to hear any complaints about it not having perfect A/V quality here, either, because true fans don't care all that much, I can assure you. We know what to expect from 1976-79.)

(Don't need to hear any complaints about it not having perfect A/V quality here, either, because true fans don't care all that much, I can assure you. We know what to expect from 1976-79.)

Anyway, Annie Haslam sounds like an angel for me :)

Yes I'm pretty sure it is.

"The band reunites to perform a show celebrating the 25th anniversary of London's famous Marquee venue in 1983."

Kool, I ordered the original from cduniverse about a year ago and they canceled my order due to unavailability.

Live at the Isle of Wight 1970 (2009)

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This title will be released on May 26, 2009.

No other details known?

Kool, I ordered the original from cduniverse about a year ago and they canceled my order due to unavailability.

I have "Live at the Marque", it's a pretty good show. This is the same show repackaged. Other than Ten Years After at Woodstock, probably the best footage of the original band in action...... all members are here, Leo Lyons, Ric Lee, and Chick Churchill. If you are a fan, a nice concert to add to the collection.

John

Kool, I ordered the original from cduniverse about a year ago and they canceled my order due to unavailability.

From my experience...

With these smaller label releases buy them when the first are released because they may not be available for long from the bigger places like Amazon and CDUniverse.

For Chicago blues fans...

It Ain't Over: Delmark Celebrates 55 Years of Blues (2009)
Released on May 19, 2009

Delmark's 55th anniversary blues bash at Buddy Guy's Legends on March 7, 2008 featured most of Delmark's local blues roster, a Delmark Day proclamation from Mayor Daley and a Grammy Hall Of Fame Award for the groundbreaking “Hoodoo Man Blues” album. Live performances by Lurrie Bell, Tail Dragger, Zora Young, Jimmy Johnson with Dave Specter, Aaron Moore, Little Arthur Duncan, Eddie Shaw, Shirley Johnson.

2-Disc Set
Region 0
NTSC
Audio:
Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS Surround 5.1
Stereo - English
Disc 1:
Disc 2:


Amazon price is high on this, for a good price you can buy it directly from Delmark when it is released, or CDUniverse has it pretty cheap.

http://www.delmark.com/delmark.upcoming.htm

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I have "Live at the Marque", it's a pretty good show. This is the same show repackaged. Other than Ten Years After at Woodstock, probably the best footage of the original band in action...... all members are here, Leo Lyons, Ric Lee, and Chick Churchill. If you are a fan, a nice concert to add to the collection.

John

Pre-ordering it from best buy is $15.99, cduniverse is $13.34 and Amazon is $24.49 :eek:

Pre-ordering it from best buy is $15.99, cduniverse is $13.34 and Amazon is $24.49 :eek:

I've noticed lately that Amazon prices has been really high on the smaller label stuff compared to other sellers. Except for the top rated selling DVDs which they have some of the best prices.

I've noticed lately that Amazon prices has been really high on the smaller label stuff compared to other sellers. Except for the top rated selling DVDs which they have some of the best prices.

My Mamma told me, 'you better shop around.'

If the recordings are from 1976 and 1979, and not one of those "reunion tours", you can be sure it'll be excellent.

The 1979 performances will undoubtedly include stuff from "Azure d'Or" (and "A Song For All Seasons" and "Novella" before it), but they were still very good at that point.

(Don't need to hear any complaints about it not having perfect A/V quality here, either, because true fans don't care all that much, I can assure you. We know what to expect from 1976-79.)

Saw them at Red Rocks back in the day. Not really sure what year it was, just that it was in the 70's, they really put on an amazing show. Annie was amazing. Not sure which keyboard player was there but he really blew me away that night. They were a perfect group for a show at Red Rocks, the sound echoing in the night air was something else. Ahh the 'good ole days'! Just got the re-release of the "Live at Carnegie Hall" a couple of nights ago. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet though.

(Don't need to hear any complaints about it not having perfect A/V quality here, either, because true fans don't care all that much, I can assure you. We know what to expect from 1976-79.)

Amen. :)

Saw them at Red Rocks back in the day. Not really sure what year it was, just that it was in the 70's, they really put on an amazing show. Annie was amazing. Not sure which keyboard player was there but he really blew me away that night. They were a perfect group for a show at Red Rocks, the sound echoing in the night air was something else. Ahh the 'good ole days'! Just got the re-release of the "Live at Carnegie Hall" a couple of nights ago. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet though.


The good old day's, yes they were better back into the mid 60's. I'm glad I was there! :p

Phish The Clifford Ball Disc 5....

I am sure this set has been covered by some Phish fans out there, but I just got to give a VERY high rec for this disc 5 in particular....WOW!:eek: I saw most my Phish shows in the early-mid 90's and this set to me is a perfect example of how good this band can be. From a music standpoint, these guys are doing some truly amazing things on stage in this set and they are at the top of their game. Video quality is pretty much crap, but the audio is awesome for the most part. If there happens to be any Phish fan out there who has not seen this yet or anyone who can appreciate true musical talent, rent this ASAP! I was blown away by this one last night.

Phish The Clifford Ball Disc 5....

I am sure this set has been covered by some Phish fans out there, but I just got to give a VERY high rec for this disc 5 in particular....WOW!:eek: I saw most my Phish shows in the early-mid 90's and this set to me is a perfect example of how good this band can be. From a music standpoint, these guys are doing some truly amazing things on stage in this set and they are at the top of their game. Video quality is pretty much crap, but the audio is awesome for the most part. If there happens to be any Phish fan out there who has not seen this yet or anyone who can appreciate true musical talent, rent this ASAP! I was blown away by this one last night.

Bought it too, but have only made it through the first disc so far. So much music so little time. I agree lousy video, but good sound and great music and performance. Really happy with this purchase. It will provide many evenings of great music.

Also in the jam band genre, just got the Soundstage DVD of Umphreys McGee. Love the show, good video, really nice sound mix. The audience kills me though. I think Soundstage must pass out Vallium before the show to keep the crowd from getting too loud during the show. I have never seen a UM crowd that quiet. Oh well, the band had fun.

Bought it too, but have only made it through the first disc so far. So much music so little time. I agree lousy video, but good sound and great music and performance. Really happy with this purchase. It will provide many evenings of great music.

Also in the jam band genre, just got the Soundstage DVD of Umphreys McGee. Love the show, good video, really nice sound mix. The audience kills me though. I think Soundstage must pass out Vallium before the show to keep the crowd from getting too loud during the show. I have never seen a UM crowd that quiet. Oh well, the band had fun.


I agree.....I have so many music BR's/DVD's to get to and just dont have enough time right now.......I am going to purchase this Phish show though since I really love this period. I have only watched disc 5 and 6 so far and I am watching these discs in reverse order since discs 1-4 have some sort of wait......will probably just hold off until I buy it and start with disc 1.

Thanks for the Umphreys McGee rec!:) I will definately check this out.

The audience kills me though. I think Soundstage must pass out Vallium before the show to keep the crowd from getting too loud during the show. I have never seen a UM crowd that quiet.I think the regular Soundstage is recorder in something like a television studio. My guess is that most of the audience is family and friends of the PBS employees. I bet many at that show never even heard of UM before then.

Ed

Wow! I just spent a week going through all replies to this thread. Very interesting. I only owned one concert DVD prior to buying my HD TV and 5.1 speaker system this past winter. I now have eight.
I was hoping to see a few more comments on THE WHO.
I first bought THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT special edition DVD. I thought it was great.

And then supplemented it with THE WHO MAXIMUM R &B LIVE, a re-release of the 1994 - 30 YEARS MAXIMUM R &B LIVE. Apparently this was just released this spring. For those not familiar, it contains on disc one:
1. ANYWAY,ANYHOW,ANYWHERE 2. SO SAD ABOUT US 3. QUICK ONE,WHILE HE'S AWAY,A 4. HAPPY JACK 5. I CAN'T EXPLAIN 6. YOUNG MAN BLUES 7. I DON'T EVEN KNOW MYSELF 8. MY GENERATION 9. SUBSTITUTE 10. DROWNED 11. BELL BOY 12. MY GENERATION BLUES 13. DREAMING FROM THE WAIST 14. BABA O'RILEY 15. SISTER DISCO 16. WHO ARE YOU 17. 5:15 18. MY WIFE 19. MUSIC MUST CHANGE 20. PINBALL WIZARD 21. BEHIND BLUE EYES 22. LOVE REIGN O'ER ME 23. WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN 24. BORIS THE SPIDER 25. I CAN SEE FOR MILES 26. SEE ME,FEEL ME

The second disc is LIVE AT ROCKPALAST 1981.

The second disc I don’t care much for quality-wise. The first disc of THE WHO MAXIMUM R &B LIVE was fine.

I have not seen other WHO DVDs so my questions are:
For those that have THE WHO MAXIMUM R &B LIVE, how does it (esp. disc 1) compare with other WHO DVDs you have seen or own; and, given the two DVDs I have so far on THE WHO, is there any other disc I should buy to round out my collection. I don’t want to buy every DVD they have out there, but maybe just one more.

If yer a Who freak, get this.

Remasted 1.78:1 aspect ratio from the orignal 35mm film along with surround sound.

Wide screen baby!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513%2BIc0OgfL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

For me, the Holy Grail of Who music was Live at Leeds, correctly considered one of the, if not the, best live rock albums of all time. The closest you will come to that performance in video at this time is the 2nd disc of the Kilburn DVD, Live at the London Coliseum gig from 1969, recorded December of 1969, 2 months prior to the Live at Leeds CD. Unfortunately the show was never intended for commercial consumption, and was recorded with 16MM cameras and poor lighting for filming...... the audio was with a single microphone. That said, they have done wonders with the sound and picture considering the source, but it is the performance that is so well worth having. This is a killer show. You can tell the band knew they were playing an Opera house and this wasn't the usual drunk rowdy crowd, this was a celebration of the Rock Opera Tommy. I give the performance a 10+. After this, the Isle of Wight DVD from August 1970 is a killer show from a quality standpoint. It was pro shot for a possible movie, Isle of Wight was Great Britain's Woodstock. The audio is excellent. The performance while good, is not quite up to the Coliseum nor the Live at Leeds show. Still, well worth having, as this DVD and the Coliseum DVD represent the Who in their Prime. After that, Kilburn is the best commercially available DVD of the band with Keith Moon, representing the era right after Who's Next. There are other shows from that era on youtube, and one or two look pro shot, but they have not been released commercially. In another month though we get another treat, as the 40th anniversary edition of Woodstock DVD comes out, and it is my understanding that all of the Who's performance is put back into the movie. That is a great show as well. As you can probably tell, I am a major Who fan "smiles"

John

Good Jeff Beck cd/dvd to start with?

just seen Becks concert on Palladia , Live at Ronnie Scotts. I would like to get a cd or dvd to start listening to his music.. Whats the best ones to get? Noticed on Cd now there is a blu ray out.. thanks

Good Jeff Beck cd/dvd to start with?

just seen Becks concert on Palladia , Live at Ronnie Scotts. I would like to get a cd or dvd to start listening to his music.. Whats the best ones to get? Noticed on Cd now there is a blu ray out.. thanks

Good Jeff Beck cd/dvd to start with?

just seen Becks concert on Palladia , Live at Ronnie Scotts. I would like to get a cd or dvd to start listening to his music.. Whats the best ones to get? Noticed on Cd now there is a blu ray out.. thanks


Guitar Shop - late 80's or early 90's - One of the best albums of the 90's IMHO.
Wired / Blow by Blow - 70's - Both are good.
Truth - 60's - w/ Rod Stewart before he went down the musical slippery slope and became un-listenable.
Live at Ronnie Scott's - As you just heard - Outstanding

Good Jeff Beck cd/dvd to start with?

just seen Becks concert on Palladia , Live at Ronnie Scotts. I would like to get a cd or dvd to start listening to his music.. Whats the best ones to get? Noticed on Cd now there is a blu ray out.. thanks

"Truth" and "Beck-Ola" - great classic rock, the supergroup that should have trumped Led Zeppelin..... Rod Stewart on vocals

"Rough and Ready" and "The Jeff Beck Group" (also known as the "orange" album) Great progressive rock, mixing R&B and Jazz influences (think a heavy Steely Dan) These two albums are two of my favs by Jeff

"Blow by Blow"
"Wired"
"There and Back" ............ these were his first 3 fusion albums and were a direct progression from the previous two progressive albums.

"Flash" from 1985, Jeff went back to rock for one album. Contains the MTV hit "People get Ready" with Rod on vocals. Not a top Jeff album but still interesting.

"Jeff Becks Guitar Workshop" Interesting instrumental album from Jeff

Also consider "Beck, Bogart, and Appice" , Jeff with the bass player and drummer from the Vanilla Fudge and Cactus.

My favs from this list would be Beck-Ola, Rough and Ready, The Orange Album, Blow by Blow, Wired, There and Back, and Guitar Workshop.

Hard to go wrong with any JB though.

John

If yer a Who freak, get this.

Remasted 1.78:1 aspect ratio from the orignal 35mm film along with surround sound.

Wide screen baby!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513%2BIc0OgfL._SL500_AA240_.jpg



Great performance. Video is rough which is to be expected and audio is good for a show from this period of time. Any Who fan would LOVE this (if there happens to be one reading this who hasnt seen it yet somehow).

Thanks for the Beck recommendations, great bass player..:)

Good Jeff Beck cd/dvd to start with?

just seen Becks concert on Palladia , Live at Ronnie Scotts. I would like to get a cd or dvd to start listening to his music.. Whats the best ones to get? Noticed on Cd now there is a blu ray out.. thanks


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Beck_Group_(album)

This is the one that hooked me on his tunes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Beck_Group_(album)

This is the one that hooked me on his tunes.

The infamous "orange" album :)
I agree, one of his all time best!!!

John

For me, the Holy Grail of Who music was Live at Leeds, correctly considered one of the, if not the, best live rock albums of all time. The closest you will come to that performance in video at this time is the 2nd disc of the Kilburn DVD, Live at the London Coliseum gig from 1969, recorded December of 1969, 2 months prior to the Live at Leeds CD. Unfortunately the show was never intended for commercial consumption, and was recorded with 16MM cameras and poor lighting for filming...... the audio was with a single microphone. That said, they have done wonders with the sound and picture considering the source, but it is the performance that is so well worth having. This is a killer show. You can tell the band knew they were playing an Opera house and this wasn't the usual drunk rowdy crowd, this was a celebration of the Rock Opera Tommy. I give the performance a 10+. After this, the Isle of Wight DVD from August 1970 is a killer show from a quality standpoint. It was pro shot for a possible movie, Isle of Wight was Great Britain's Woodstock. The audio is excellent. The performance while good, is not quite up to the Coliseum nor the Live at Leeds show. Still, well worth having, as this DVD and the Coliseum DVD represent the Who in their Prime. After that, Kilburn is the best commercially available DVD of the band with Keith Moon, representing the era right after Who's Next. There are other shows from that era on youtube, and one or two look pro shot, but they have not been released commercially. In another month though we get another treat, as the 40th anniversary edition of Woodstock DVD comes out, and it is my understanding that all of the Who's performance is put back into the movie. That is a great show as well. As you can probably tell, I am a major Who fan "smiles"

John


I still have Live at Leeds on vinyl when it 1st came out. :)
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I gotta break down and order the 40th anniversary edition of Woodstock DVD. $48.99 wasn't the kind of hit I was thinking about taking. :D

I agree.....I have so many music BR's/DVD's to get to and just dont have enough time right now.......I am going to purchase this Phish show though since I really love this period. I have only watched disc 5 and 6 so far and I am watching these discs in reverse order since discs 1-4 have some sort of wait......will probably just hold off until I buy it and start with disc 1.

Thanks for the Umphreys McGee rec!:) I will definately check this out.

Good to hear about disc 5. I have been holding off renting it due to the wait on the first few discs, though I may have to rent them out of order. A friend of mine owns the set, but since he hasn't watched it yet, it will be tough for me to pry them from him.

I had a free ticket to this festival too, but couldn't get time off from my $5.25 an hour part-time college job back in the day. Another reason I haven't watched it yet.

I'm gonna have to check out the Umphrey's as well.

I still have Live at Leeds on vinyl when it 1st came out. :)
http://s.ecrater.com/stores/26865/466b6ed0cadfc_26865n.jpg

I gotta break down and order the 40th anniversary edition of Woodstock DVD. $48.99 wasn't the kind of hit I was thinking about taking. :D

LMAO..................... I have it as well, in pristine condition with all the "goodies" also. Think we should quote the copy of the"Woodstock" contract, tell everyone what they were paid to perform :)

John

not a review - but a reminder

Queen & Paul Rodgers release a new live dvd on june 15 th. Shot in Ukraine before 350 000 people - it should be stunning
for some reason, a blu-ray release is not planned at the moment- even though it was shot in HD. fingers crossed it will be available on bd in the future

http://http://spf.fotolog.com/photo/31/14/101/theinnuendo/1239942734014_f.jpg

and a link to purchase: http://www.play.com/Music/MusicDVD/4-/9730574/Queen-Paul-Rodgers-Live-In-Ukraine/Product.html

and a few shots from the gig;

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/e22152cd59962a6a634b38480a89e37b.jpg

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/4a8664a4aec19edce8cb3401ac3ce740.jpg

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/60c714e9d82bbbef7b4db160734a77fc.jpg

I can't wait!!!

I have no idea why the pics are't showing...?

LMAO..................... I have it as well, in pristine condition with all the "goodies" also. Think we should quote the copy of the"Woodstock" contract, tell everyone what they were paid to perform :)

John

:)
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$6,250.00 In cash only prior to show day of engagement.
The album cover looks like the simple cover of a bootleg LP of the era: it is of plain brown cardboard with "The Who Live At Leeds" printed on it in plain blue or red block letters as if stamped on with ink. The original LP's cover opened out, gatefold-style, and had a pocket on either side of the interior, with the record in a paper sleeve on one side and facsimiles of various memorabilia on the other, including a photo of the band from the My Generation photoshoot, handwritten lyrics to the "Listening to You" chorus from Tommy, a receipt for smoke bombs, and the early black "Maximum R&B" poster showing Pete Townshend windmilling his Rickenbacker.

The label was handwritten (apparently in Townshend's hand), and included instructions to the engineers not to attempt to remove any crackling noise. This is probably a reference to the clicking and popping on the pre-remastered version (notably in "Shakin All Over") which was from John Entwistle's bass cable. Modern digital remastering techniques allowed this to be removed, and also allowed some of the worst-affected tracks from the gig to be used also.



Didn't Hendrix command the most $$?

Good to hear about disc 5. I have been holding off renting it due to the wait on the first few discs, though I may have to rent them out of order. A friend of mine owns the set, but since he hasn't watched it yet, it will be tough for me to pry them from him.

I had a free ticket to this festival too, but couldn't get time off from my $5.25 an hour part-time college job back in the day. Another reason I haven't watched it yet.

I'm gonna have to check out the Umphrey's as well.

I hear ya. I was trying to hold off to watch these in order, but the first 2 discs are very long wait and 3 and 4 also had a wait:rolleyes: I could not wait any longer and just went out of order. Try and get it from your friend if you can:)

not a review - but a reminder

Queen & Paul Rodgers release a new live dvd on june 15 th. Shot in Ukraine before 350 000 people - it should be stunning
for some reason, a blu-ray release is not planned at the moment- even though it was shot in HD. fingers crossed it will be available on bd in the future

http://http://spf.fotolog.com/photo/31/14/101/theinnuendo/1239942734014_f.jpg

and a link to purchase: http://www.play.com/Music/MusicDVD/4-/9730574/Queen-Paul-Rodgers-Live-In-Ukraine/Product.html

and a few shots from the gig;

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/e22152cd59962a6a634b38480a89e37b.jpg

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/4a8664a4aec19edce8cb3401ac3ce740.jpg

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/60c714e9d82bbbef7b4db160734a77fc.jpg

I can't wait!!!

I have no idea why the pics are't showing...?

Weird... this is an import only.

Weird... this is an import only.

are you from the US? it's due be released a month later in the US I think

Yea and the Rodgers/Queen combination really works. Rodgers gives that Queen some real testasterone, and Brian May becomes the front man for the group, and really highlights the instrumental beauty of their music.

Their previous DVD (filmed in Vegas) is also really good... but I will hold out for a Blu-Ray this time.


John



not a review - but a reminder

Queen & Paul Rodgers release a new live dvd on june 15 th. Shot in Ukraine before 350 000 people - it should be stunning
for some reason, a blu-ray release is not planned at the moment- even though it was shot in HD. fingers crossed it will be available on bd in the future

http://http://spf.fotolog.com/photo/31/14/101/theinnuendo/1239942734014_f.jpg

and a link to purchase: http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?mpt=166360277&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=4&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://www.play.com/Music/MusicDVD/4-/9730574/Queen-Paul-Rodgers-Live-In-Ukraine/Product.html (http://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=1418&awinaffid=85386&clickref=&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.play.com%2FMusic%2FMusicDVD%2F4-%2F9730574%2FQueen-Paul-Rodgers-Live-In-Ukraine%2FProduct.html)

and a few shots from the gig;

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/e22152cd59962a6a634b38480a89e37b.jpg

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/4a8664a4aec19edce8cb3401ac3ce740.jpg

http://http://www.queenonline.com/uploads/60c714e9d82bbbef7b4db160734a77fc.jpg

I can't wait!!!

I have no idea why the pics are't showing...?

:)
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$6,250.00 In cash only prior to show day of engagement.


Didn't Hendrix command the most $$?

I would guess that he did. I just thought it was funny based on todays prices, and what bands charge, that they got the Who for $6,250. :)
The remastered CD with all the other material from the show put back in is fantastic BTW, I assume you have it.

John

I would guess that he did. I just thought it was funny based on todays prices, and what bands charge, that they got the Who for $6,250. :)
The remastered CD with all the other material from the show put back in is fantastic BTW, I assume you have it.

John

$6,250 x 2.

Still not much for a big gig like that.

$6,250 x 2.

Still not much for a big gig like that.

Yep, I forgot about the advance and day of show payment.

The Queen+Paul Rodgers dvd was filmed in Sheffield England not Las Vegas.

Must be great!
Renaissance - Song Of Scherherezade DVD
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Just looking at this on Amazon and there are some reviews there that claim there is/was an issue with the first release and not to buy until the corrected version is released in 'late summer or fall'. Is this release the corrected version or does this disc have a problem? Does anyone know about it. It is due to release on June 16 which would seem to indicate it would be a corrected version.

Wow! I just spent a week going through all replies to this thread. Very interesting. I only owned one concert DVD prior to buying my HD TV and 5.1 speaker system this past winter. I now have eight.
I was hoping to see a few more comments on THE WHO.
I first bought THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT special edition DVD. I thought it was great.

And then supplemented it with THE WHO MAXIMUM R &B LIVE, a re-release of the 1994 - 30 YEARS MAXIMUM R &B LIVE. Apparently this was just released this spring. For those not familiar, it contains on disc one:
1. ANYWAY,ANYHOW,ANYWHERE 2. SO SAD ABOUT US 3. QUICK ONE,WHILE HE'S AWAY,A 4. HAPPY JACK 5. I CAN'T EXPLAIN 6. YOUNG MAN BLUES 7. I DON'T EVEN KNOW MYSELF 8. MY GENERATION 9. SUBSTITUTE 10. DROWNED 11. BELL BOY 12. MY GENERATION BLUES 13. DREAMING FROM THE WAIST 14. BABA O'RILEY 15. SISTER DISCO 16. WHO ARE YOU 17. 5:15 18. MY WIFE 19. MUSIC MUST CHANGE 20. PINBALL WIZARD 21. BEHIND BLUE EYES 22. LOVE REIGN O'ER ME 23. WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN 24. BORIS THE SPIDER 25. I CAN SEE FOR MILES 26. SEE ME,FEEL ME

The second disc is LIVE AT ROCKPALAST 1981.

The second disc I don’t care much for quality-wise. The first disc of THE WHO MAXIMUM R &B LIVE was fine.

I have not seen other WHO DVDs so my questions are:
For those that have THE WHO MAXIMUM R &B LIVE, how does it (esp. disc 1) compare with other WHO DVDs you have seen or own; and, given the two DVDs I have so far on THE WHO, is there any other disc I should buy to round out my collection. I don’t want to buy every DVD they have out there, but maybe just one more.

Thanks to all who responded to this inquiry.

Queen & Paul Rodgers live in Ukraine


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a trailer...

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Queen & Paul Rodgers live in Ukraine


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nddNLqnYEdo

a trailer...

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Hopefuly it will come out in the US and also on Blu Ray

Picked up the standard 2 disc dvd (blu-ray out next week) of Clapton/Winwood live at MSG which came out Tues. Very nice show, over two hours long, nice widescreen video presentation, nice audio in dts and stereo (maybe not quite as tight as Cream at Royal Albert hall quality as that is my measuring stick now, lol), but still very good. Near the beginning of the show they did one of my old favorites, Buddy Miles' "Changes" and near the end of the show they do an incredible 16 minute version Hendrix' Voodoo Chile which alone is worth the price. 23 songs in all including the 3 in the extras on the second disc which are also in widescreen and dts. Also on the second disc is a docu about the boys getting back together and a sound check short. Well worth the 17 bucks I paid for sure.

The blu ray of the Clapton/Winwwod set's out on 6/2 not next week.

(maybe not quite as tight as Cream at Royal Albert hall quality as that is my measuring stick now, lol)
WOW. You set your sights low. Or does the "lol" mean you're kidding?

Ed

ekb, no I wasn't kidding, I think the cream dvd is one of the best recorded concerts in my opinion. If you think it is of low quality just curious as to what you consider high quality?

Hopefuly it will come out in the US and also on Blu Ray

to film a hughe gig like this in HD and NOT release it on blu-ray would be like releasing a new studio album in mono only...

according to brian may it's not planned at the moment

ekb, no I wasn't kidding, I think the cream dvd is one of the best recorded concerts in my opinion. If you think it is of low quality just curious as to what you consider high quality?
I gave a reply to this question recently in post #4318. I find that the Cream concert has quite a bit of dynamic compression.

Ed

I gave a reply to this question recently in post #4318. I find that the Cream concert has quite a bit of dynamic compression.

EdHow do you measure dynamic compression?

That Cream Concert from Royal Albert Hall sounds great on DVD ! It has a very good 1.5 High Bitrate DTS; higher than most normal DVD's and it is excellent

I have no idea how someone could detect compression on that; the song Toad has an incredible drum solo that sounds like he is playing in your room

How do you measure dynamic compression?I'm not sure where you're headed with this question - but the dynamic compression would be measured by taking the ratio of the level of instantaneous peaks to the long term average level. The lower that ratio is, the higher the dynamic compression.

Mind you , I'm not measuring that with any instrumentation. The ear/brain combo is a remarkable sensor. Dynamic compression can be readily heard. And I do mean readily - some phenomenon require extended listening to identify. Dynamic compression hits you in the face in about 1 second.

Ed

That Cream Concert from Royal Albert Hall sounds great on DVD ! It has a very good 1.5 High Bitrate DTS; higher than most normal DVD's and it is excellent

I have no idea how someone could detect compression on that; the song Toad has an incredible drum solo that sounds like he is playing in your room
You're loosing credibility right off the bat by mentioning high bit rate DTS. This has been discussed a lot in the AVS forums and the higher bit rate of DTS to DD is meaningless. Besides, I'm not talking about lossless compression; I'm talking about dynamic compression which is a much more serious culprit.

Now the music and performance is outstanding - but I don't want to confuse that with the recording/engineering. You might love that drum solo, but no way does it sound like it's in your room. In a blind test, you wouldn't fool anyone that it's a live drummer in the room with you. BTW, have you ever heard the Shefield Drum Record? I think this may be one of the only recordings that can pass the blind test given sufficient quality audio equipment.

Ed

You're loosing credibility right off the bat by mentioning high bit rate DTS. This has been discussed a lot in the AVS forums and the higher bit rate of DTS to DD is meaningless. Besides, I'm not talking about lossless compression; I'm talking about dynamic compression which is a much more serious culprit.

Now the music and performance is outstanding - but I don't want to confuse that with the recording/engineering. You might love that drum solo, but no way does it sound like it's in your room. In a blind test, you wouldn't fool anyone that it's a live drummer in the room with you. BTW, have you ever heard the Shefield Drum Record? I think this may be one of the only recordings that can pass the blind test given sufficient quality audio equipment.

Ed

"You're loosing credibility right off the bat by mentioning high bit rate DTS"

Excuse me? I think you're showing your ignorance now. That is strickly a matter of opinion on your part, and many others feel that high bit rate DTS does sound superior to low bit rate DD. I try my best to stay away from these types of conversations in this thread, but when you make a sweeping gereralization like that, that is based on your opinion and a few others, when there are just as many who feel the opposite is true, well, you get the picture.

John

Why do internet posters always think that the word "lose" is spelled "loose?"

They are two different words.

"You're loosing credibility right off the bat by mentioning high bit rate DTS"

Excuse me? I think you're showing your ignorance now. That is strickly a matter of opinion on your part, and many others feel that high bit rate DTS does sound superior to low bit rate DD. I try my best to stay away from these types of conversations in this thread, but when you make a sweeping gereralization like that, that is based on your opinion and a few others, when there are just as many who feel the opposite is true, well, you get the picture.

JohnBit rate alone doesn't mean a thing. A high bit rate disc from a crappy master will probably not sound better than a lower bit rate disc from a well engineered master. Things get more subjective if you are talking about two different bit rate encodings from the same master.

larry

people can write whatever they want but the bottom line is the Cream concert sounds excellent. It's laughable to hear about this compression; If had a group of people listening to the drum solo and you said "oh I can hear dynamic compression" you would look and sound like a fool to everyone in the room; the recording is fine. Reading some reviews about the disc, people like the sound of this concert; both the DTS and PCM 2 channel;

I recieved my "Live from Madison Square Garden " yesterday, havn't had time to watch it yet.

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Why do internet posters always think that the word "lose" is spelled "loose?"

They are two different words.

I guess he "lost" credibility right off the bat trying to discredit another with his spelling error :D
For the record, my comment included a "cut and paste" of his quote with "loose"
John

Bit rate alone doesn't mean a thing. A high bit rate disc from a crappy master will probably not sound better than a lower bit rate disc from a well engineered master. Things get more subjective if you are talking about two different bit rate encodings from the same master.

larry

I agree, but you can't just make a sweeping generalization that a high bit rate (1536) DTS track is the same as a low bit rate DD track, assuming they are from the same master.

John

I'm not sure where you're headed with this question - but the dynamic compression would be measured by taking the ratio of the level of instantaneous peaks to the long term average level. The lower that ratio is, the higher the dynamic compression.

Mind you , I'm not measuring that with any instrumentation. The ear/brain combo is a remarkable sensor. Dynamic compression can be readily heard. And I do mean readily - some phenomenon require extended listening to identify. Dynamic compression hits you in the face in about 1 second.

EdWhere I was going was pretty much where you went. I appreciate your opinion and I wish you well and continued enjoyment of this wonderful hobby.

But rest assured, it is your opinion and may not represent the reality for others.

Excuse me? I think you're showing your ignorance now. That is strickly a matter of opinion on your part, and many others feel that high bit rate DTS does sound superior to low bit rate DD. Fine - I understand that people have their opinions, and I respect that. But I was responding to a statement that, to me, sounded like "it must be better because the bit rate is higher". Now that is no longer opinion but science.

Ed

people can write whatever they want but the bottom line is the Cream concert sounds excellent. It's laughable to hear about this compression;
Now these are statements that people should complain about where one's opinion is stated as fact.

Ed

But rest assured, it is your opinion and may not represent the reality for others.
Yes - it is my opinion that the Cream concert does not sound good. But the for the reason that it's dynmaically compressed can be measured and that is not opinion.

Ed

Fine - I understand that people have their opinions, and I respect that. But I was responding to a statement that, to me, sounded like "it must be better because the bit rate is higher". Now that is no longer opinion but science.

Ed

As stated in this thread, higher bit rate doesn't guarantee better sound, but a higher bit rate transfer from the same master will obviously contain more data than a lower bit rate transfer from the same master. The post that started this was not a comparison of lower bit rate DD to DTS, but a comment about a DTS bit rate of 1536 ............... I will take that ALL day long over a low bit rate DD transfer from the same master.

John

I recently purchased Alice Cooper Live in Montreux 2005 on blu-ray and watched it last night. I was stunned at the quality of this show and I'm not just talking about the picture and sound. Alice put on an awesome show---in fact I believe it's the best I've ever seen him. I'm 51 and have been a Cooper fan since day 1 so that's saying something. Alice was pretty much always loaded when performing but has sobered up a number of years ago, and what a difference it has made. He sounds and looks great for his age, still very active on stage, the theatrics were great, his timing impeccable. His new band is fantastic--they just rock. If you're an old Cooper fan like me you must have this disc!

I recently purchased Alice Cooper Live in Montreux 2005 on blu-ray and watched it last night. I was stunned at the quality of this show and I'm not just talking about the picture and sound. Alice put on an awesome show---in fact I believe it's the best I've ever seen him. I'm 51 and have been a Cooper fan since day 1 so that's saying something. Alice was pretty much always loaded when performing but has sobered up a number of years ago, and what a difference it has made. He sounds and looks great for his age, still very active on stage, the theatrics were great, his timing impeccable. His new band is fantastic--they just rock. If you're an old Cooper fan like me you must have this disc!

The Montreux Concerts of this decade, Do look and sound very good!
Check out Jethro Tull in the same venue. Recorded in 2003.

I'll have to check out Alice...he was quite the showman back in the day.
Before he turned into a drunken character of himself...
-t

A fifth of vodka and a case of beer a day, so he has said.

A fifth of vodka and a case of beer a day, so he has said.

Reminds me of my old college days...:D

-t

I recently purchased Alice Cooper Live in Montreux 2005 on blu-ray and watched it last night. I was stunned at the quality of this show and I'm not just talking about the picture and sound. Alice put on an awesome show---in fact I believe it's the best I've ever seen him. I'm 51 and have been a Cooper fan since day 1 so that's saying something. Alice was pretty much always loaded when performing but has sobered up a number of years ago, and what a difference it has made. He sounds and looks great for his age, still very active on stage, the theatrics were great, his timing impeccable. His new band is fantastic--they just rock. If you're an old Cooper fan like me you must have this disc!

I saw this a couple months back, and agree the AQ and VQ is very good. I thought the material and band started out a little slow, but then got going towards the second half.

Its amazing how many solid rock tunes this guy actually had, he definitely was a force in rock for a while.

Reminds me of my old college days...:D

-t

I skipped the vodka :)

:-)

As stated in this thread, higher bit rate doesn't guarantee better sound, but a higher bit rate transfer from the same master will obviously contain more data than a lower bit rate transfer from the same master. The post that started this was not a comparison of lower bit rate DD to DTS, but a comment about a DTS bit rate of 1536 ............... I will take that ALL day long over a low bit rate DD transfer from the same master.

John



No comment. :)

Hi all, picked up this DVD the other day after giving up on waiting for the BD version. This is one seriously excellent DVD.

PQ: 5/5 looks very close to HD with a good upconverter, I was stunned.

AQ: 4.5/5 Got bass? The kick drum and bass guitar is very powerfull with clean, tight, ungodly amounts of slam....some great stuff here. Steves vocals are really good and clearly presented through the centre channel. Guitar work is for the most part excellent with parts of one or two tunes being pretty edgy at higher volumes, almost like I had it too loud:). One other complaint would be that the cymbals and snare drum (not always, see below) were too far back in the mix, the tom-toms and bigger drums have no such problem however

Steve was always known for being on the edge of mixing techniques and this mix is no different, some of the mixes are really cool with the priority of what musician playing a leading part getting put more forward in the mix. At times it took some getting used to, but I really liked it.

The show itself: 5/5.....it Rocks and is a must for even casual fans, a ton of fun with some great tunes.

Enjoy!


The DTS mix sounded the best with the DD 5.1 a close second.

yes the Steve Miller DVD is Excellent. Great Picture Quality and the Sound is excellent too. there is some heavy bass in the DTS mix as well.

this is another one of the great concerts to have on DVD or Blu-Ray if that comes out

try to listen to the John Mayer DVD or Blu-Ray; I think that one sounds even better

Its amazing how many solid rock tunes this guy actually had, he definitely was a force in rock for a while.It wasn't only him - it was the Alice Cooper band, and their best stuff was from 1971 through their last album together in 1973.

Hi all, picked up this DVD the other day after giving up on waiting for the BD version. This is one seriously excellent DVD.

PQ: 5/5 looks very close to HD with a good upconverter, I was stunned.

AQ: 4.5/5 Got bass? The kick drum and bass guitar is very powerfull with clean, tight, ungodly amounts of slam....some great stuff here. Steves vocals are really good and clearly presented through the centre channel. Guitar work is for the most part excellent with parts of one or two tunes being pretty edgy at higher volumes, almost like I had it too loud:). One other complaint would be that the cymbals and snare drum (not always, see below) were too far back in the mix, the tom-toms and bigger drums have no such problem however

Steve was always known for being on the edge of mixing techniques and this mix is no different, some of the mixes are really cool with the priority of what musician playing a leading part getting put more forward in the mix. At times it took some getting used to, but I really liked it.

The show itself: 5/5.....it Rocks and is a must for even casual fans, a ton of fun with some great tunes.

Enjoy!


The DTS mix sounded the best with the DD 5.1 a close second.


Sweet! You have not let me down yet with your recommendations as far as AQ.....sounds like they got the low end right on this track as well....cant wait to hear this one later this week;)

I recieved my "Live from Madison Square Garden " yesterday, havn't had time to watch it yet.



Should be good, I'm got it ordered on BD and got a teaser last night watching those two on Clapton's 2007 Crossroads.

I also enjoy the Steve Miller one, would be a great Blu-ray.

Just rented the Rolling Stones Blu-ray last night..hoping that one is good as well...

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On 1 June 2009, Eagle Rock Entertainment release the Deep Purple two-disc set “History, Hits & Highlights 1968-76” [Cat No EREDV726]. This release features the classics: “Smoke On The Water”, “Hush”, “Speed King”, “Black Night”, “Child In Time”, “Strange Kind Of Woman”, “Burn”, “Mistreated” and many more and includes fantastic full length performances from all four line-ups of the original Deep Purple. Clocking in with nearly five hours of entertainment this is simply essential for all Purple fans.


TRACKLISTING – HISTORY, HITS & HIGHLIGHTS 1968-76

Disc One – 2hrs 24mins

HISTORY – 20 minute history of Deep Purple from 1968 to 1976.

HITS – full performances

Mark One Line-Up (Mar 1968 to Jul 1969): Ritchie Blackmore (guitar), Rod Evans (vocals), Jon Lord (keyboards), Ian Paice (drums), Nick Simper (bass)
1. Help 2. Hush 3. Wring That Neck

Mark Two Line-Up (Jul 1969 to Jun 1973): Ritchie Blackmore (guitar), Ian Gillan (vocals), Roger Glover (bass), Jon Lord (keyboards), Ian Paice (drums)
4. Hallelujah 5. Mandrake Root 6. Speed King 7. Black Night 8. Child In Time 9. Lazy 10. Strange Kind Of Woman 11. Fireball Writing Session 12. Fireball 13. Demon’s Eye 14. No No No 15. Into The Fire 16. Never Before 17. Highway Star 18. Smoke On The Water

Mark Three Line-Up (Jun 1973 to May 1975): Ritchie Blackmore (guitar), David Coverdale (vocals), Glenn Hughes (bass & vocals), Jon Lord (keyboards), Ian Paice (drums)
19. Burn 20. Mistreated

Mark Four Line-Up (Jun 1975 to Mar 1976): Tommy Bolin (guitar), David Coverdale (vocals), Glenn Hughes (bass & vocals), Jon Lord (keyboards), Ian Paice (drums)
21. Love Child 22. You Keep On Moving

Disc Two – 2hrs 23mins

HIGHLIGHTS – bonus performances and interviews

Mark One Line-Up
1. And The Address (Playboy TV)

Mark Two Line-Up
2. Wring That Neck (Bilzen Jazz Festival 1969) 3. Mandrake Root (“Pop Deux” Paris Concert 1970) 4. Wring That Neck (“Pop Deux” Paris Concert 1970) 5. Black Night (Promo Clip) 6. No No No (Take 1) (Rockpalast Rehearsal Session) 7. No No No (Take 2) (Rockpalast Rehearsal Session)

Mark Three Line-Up
8. “Jt Nuit” – French TV 1974 9. Burn (Leeds Polytechnic Project 1974) 10. Interview (Leeds Polytechnic Project 1974) 11. Space Truckin’/Interview (Leeds Polytechnic Project 1974)

Mark Four Line-Up
12. New Zealand TV Documentary (Nov 1975) 13. Smoke On The Water (New Zealand TV)

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Cool, hope the quality is good, will be getting it regardless most likely. Great to have a few cuts of Tommy Bolin, although I like him much more as a solo artist than the Mark IV version of the band.

John

Cool, hope the quality is good, will be getting it regardless most likely. Great to have a few cuts of Tommy Bolin, although I like him much more as a solo artist than the Mark IV version of the band.

John

That is some old video and audio.

Cool, hope the quality is good, will be getting it regardless most likely. Great to have a few cuts of Tommy Bolin, although I like him much more as a solo artist than the Mark IV version of the band.

John

I'm getting pretty much anything Purple put out - and this one I'm buying asap. but I'm not expecting any great aq/vq - I'm guessing the source material is not the best

FYI...


Iron Maiden: Flight 666 (Deluxe Edition) - Standard DVD comes out next week, Amazon has it for $11.99.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3336006338_686d2e28d2_o.jpg June 1st is next week and you can't even pre-order yet on Amazon, just sign-up for email when it becomes available.

larry

I'm getting pretty much anything Purple put out - and this one I'm buying asap. but I'm not expecting any great aq/vq - I'm guessing the source material is not the best

Maybe as good as this?
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FYI: This in the only DP I'm missing. I already have most of the material from imports, so I passed on it.
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After Lord retired, I kind of lost interest. Gillan's voice is going south now too (getting old).

Maybe as good as this?
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FYI: This in the only DP I'm missing. I already have most of the material from imports, so I passed on it.
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After Lord retired, I kind of lost interest. Gillan's voice is going south now too (getting old).

I have "Perihelion", and actually feel it is a good performance. Gillian's voice is pretty good still on this one, and Lord hadn't retired yet. I was always a fan of Steve Morse prior to his joing them anyway.

How's the live in concert 72/73? I read some of it was pro shot, so it should look and sound ok from that era.

John

Has anyone ordered Clapton/ Winwood live at MSG Blu ray...I had ordered it from DVD pacific but they say that stock has not come in yet..Wondering if this has been changed from the June 2nd release..
Rick

I have "Perihelion", and actually feel it is a good performance. Gillian's voice is pretty good still on this one, and Lord hadn't retired yet. I was always a fan of Steve Morse prior to his joing them anyway.

How's the live in concert 72/73? I read some of it was pro shot, so it should look and sound ok from that era.

John

Very good Q for the era.

Check this one out. :)


Deep Purple Live in Australia 1999 - Total Abandon (2000) is an excellent performance. My copy is a Korean disk and Q is so-so, but it's still a steller performace. Steve Morse is very strong at this point!
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here tis (http://cgi.ebay.com/Deep-Purple-Total-Abandon-Australia-99-DVD-2-99-S-H_W0QQitemZ270382352247QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ ray?hash=item3ef40b4777&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 %7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)


This is another Korean import - stereo only.

Looks best on an ol anolog TV.........

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Another great performace.

You can get both of these and two other concerts in the 'Around The World Live' for $35.
This would be yer best bet. 5.1 surround and cleaned up video.
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Around The World Live is British hard rock band Deep Purple's four DVD box-set. It was released on May 19, 2008. The box-set includes four live performances of Deep Purple World Tour (1996-2008), two full time documentary films about the band and rare footage, including interviews, after-show parties and the band on the road, during the tour.

Two DVDs from this box-set have already been released: Bombay Calling and Total Abandon: Australia '99.

The NEC 2002 show contains exclusive live-material, when Deep Purple former organist and keyboardist Jon Lord joined the band on stage, for several songs, playing with current keyboardist Don Airey

Access All Areas DVD is the definitive documentary of Deep Purple from 1968 to 2007, emphasising the Steve Morse era. [1] DVD4 in the upcoming box set, listed below as "Documentary film about the Steve Morse era" is a 90 minute edit of a fly-on-the-wall 'Access All Areas', which has been in production for some years.

I was reading reviews for Total Abandon on Amazon, and one guy was talking about how bad he thought Gillian's voice sounded, most of the other reviews loved the show. What's your take on his voice on this DVD?

John

Funny I havent seen this one mentioned....picked it up at WalMart last week. Fantastic!

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Funny I havent seen this one mentioned....picked it up at WalMart last week. Fantastic!

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Yosh 70, I agree, this is one fantastic concert, saw it on HD NET about a year ago and now out on Blu so I will definitely be picking it up.

Styx, Eagles, Doobie Bros, Elton John, Van Halen, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Stones........on and on and on. These artists are still playing live after 30 years in the business and sounding better than ever. Probably because they are REAL musicians playing REAL instruments.....not like most of the crap on the radio today. Guaranteed we will not be seeing many acts of today 30 years from now. 70's and 80's....what a great era of music we had.

I was reading reviews for Total Abandon on Amazon, and one guy was talking about how bad he thought Gillian's voice sounded, most of the other reviews loved the show. What's your take on his voice on this DVD?

John

Fine. :)

Yosh 70, I agree, this is one fantastic concert, saw it on HD NET about a year ago and now out on Blu so I will definitely be picking it up.

Styx, Eagles, Doobie Bros, Elton John, Van Halen, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Stones........on and on and on. These artists are still playing live after 30 years in the business and sounding better than ever. Probably because they are REAL musicians playing REAL instruments.....not like most of the crap on the radio today. Guaranteed we will not be seeing many acts of today 30 years from now. 70's and 80's....what a great era of music we had.

Trapt
Sixxam
Papa Roach
Buckcherry
Nickelback :)

Yosh 70, I agree, this is one fantastic concert, saw it on HD NET about a year ago and now out on Blu so I will definitely be picking it up.

Styx, Eagles, Doobie Bros, Elton John, Van Halen, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Stones........on and on and on. These artists are still playing live after 30 years in the business and sounding better than ever. Probably because they are REAL musicians playing REAL instruments.....not like most of the crap on the radio today. Guaranteed we will not be seeing many acts of today 30 years from now. 70's and 80's....what a great era of music we had.

And now...A blast from the past....(circa 1970)....

I agree, this is one fantastic band, saw them on ED SULLIVAN about a year ago and now out on LP so I will definitely be picking it up.

Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Four Seasons, Roy Orbison, Little Richard.....not like most of the crap on the radio today. Guaranteed we will not be seeing many acts of today 30 years from now. 50's and 60's....what a great era of music we had! :rolleyes:

saw them on ED SULLIVAN about a year ago...??? What - do you have a TARDIS or something? Or just your average, ordinary, everyday time machine? :p

(At least it's possible that they could've been on that show - they were together as a band about a year before it ended in '71. Still, it's hard to believe they would've been - I saw them play at local high schools three times starting in '71 or '72, so they weren't exactly bigtime then.)

??? What - do you have a TARDIS or something? Or just your average, ordinary, everyday time machine? :p

(At least it's possible that they could've been on that show - they were together as a band about a year before it ended in '71. Still, it's hard to believe they would've been - I saw them play at local high schools three times starting in '71 or '72, so they weren't exactly bigtime then.)
Had nothing to do with Styx.
I was making a sarcastic comment on the quote above.
Pointing out how the older generation never seems to accept the newer generation's artists.
I wish more people could take a page from Johnny Cash, (to cite an oldster's example), and delight in all the variety they can.
To see what I mean, look at the Johnny Cash TV Show DVDs. All music at the time was being represented!
(Much in the way the better hip-hop producers of today are REALLY knowledgable and into all kinds of music, both old and new.)

Sorry - didn't catch the sarcasm part.

I don't agree with that completely, though. Those "old" guys you mentioned there were the pioneers - the architects of Rock and Roll.

Yeah, the listeners of radio 30 years from now will have replaced the listeners now, and what they'll want to hear will be different, but in the written History of Rock and Roll, those guys you mentioned will be regarded as the most important.

If it weren't for them, nothing you're into now would've probably ever existed.

As far as people not giving a fair shake to the artists of today, there are a lot of reasons for that. I could speak from my own point of view on that, being an "old guy" myself. But that would probably take a whole page here, and this thread really isn't about that anyway.

Not saying no one out there now has any relevance, but after the Big Bang of Rock and Roll's beginning, it's kind of hard for anyone else to mean as much nowadays. Plus, you've got the worldwide forces of Capitalism run amok working against things now. Don't know if you can ever turn back the tide on that. Maybe only after the whole rest of the world has been exposed to it long enough to be totally sick of it. And that won't happen in my, yours, or even your children's lifetime.

As far as the Cash show, yeah, I've seen those tapes on PBS, and that may have been the best musical variety show ever. Shows like Midnight Special or SNL don't even come close.

The only thing STYX "pioneered" was the crass commercialization of progressive music. Sure they were real players but did you ever try to listen to an entire side of one of their albums?

Taken as a whole, their albums sounded completely synthetic with each song engineered for air play. And sound good on the radio ... they did.

Yes John I agree....with their later tunes.
But early Styx still plays on my system now and then.

Best album ever.....
http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/images/Styx-tGI.jpg

Equinox #2 IMO....
http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/images/Styx-Equi.jpg

I'm an old guy and disappointed with both Beck, Clapton and Winwood. I won't even bother reviewing Clapton and Winwood's new DVD on Amazon as all the old farts are still hanging onto the 60's and to say anything 'bad' would just start a flame war.

I really love some of the new groups as they put every one of those 60+ year old relics to shame. 'Time has come today'. :)

The only thing STYX "pioneered" was the crass commercialization of progressive music.If you're referring to my post, I wasn't talking about Styx. When I said "pioneers" I was talking about those old artists he mentioned - Presley, Berry, Holly, Lewis, et al. (Why in God's name would I ever say "Styx were pioneers of Rock 'n' Roll"? Do you really think I'm that insane?)

But early Styx still plays on my system now and then.Actually, they had four albums before Equinox (on Wooden Nickel records), so I don't know if you could rightfully call those "early Styx".

They were actually more of a Rock & Roll band back then, before John Curulewski left and was replaced by Tommy Shaw (after Equinox).

Had nothing to do with Styx.
I was making a sarcastic comment on the quote above.
Pointing out how the older generation never seems to accept the newer generation's artists.
I wish more people could take a page from Johnny Cash, (to cite an oldster's example), and delight in all the variety they can.
To see what I mean, look at the Johnny Cash TV Show DVDs. All music at the time was being represented!
(Much in the way the better hip-hop producers of today are REALLY knowledgable and into all kinds of music, both old and new.)

Ahhhhhh...but that's always been the case, no?
I never had an appreciation for Sinatra and that Generation of music until I was much older than my 20's.
My parents thought Presley, The Beatles and The Rolling Stones were jokes! (Though my Mom actually loved humming to "Painted Black" by The Stones).

I tried listening to Hip-Hop but can't get into it. Not a card carrying member of AARP either. Well not yet anyway...

Hey, whatever you like is what matters!

-t

Last week I purchased the Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama on DVD.
That was an old recording, audio and video are just acceptable, anyway, the performance.... well, I am Skynyrd fan ;)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AzQfaiIhL._SS500_.jpg

Last week I purchased the Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama on DVD.
That was an old recording, audio and video are just acceptable, anyway, the performance.... well, I am Skynyrd fan ;)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AzQfaiIhL._SS500_.jpg

Some excellent guitar work in Sweet Home Alabama! :)

Then you need to get this.

Filmed in 16:9 HD - bootleg.

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-66146566108495_2051_7025830

Thanks Vision!

Some excellent guitar work in Sweet Home Alabama! :)

Then you need to get this.

Filmed in 16:9 HD - bootleg.

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-66146566108495_2051_7025830

I'm going to see Kid Rock & Lynyrd Skynyrd on July 5th, can't wait!!

http://jquiz.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/lp_r2r.jpg


I just picked up Linkin Park Road to Revolution and Alice Cooper Live at Montreaux on blu-ray and both deserve a watching if you're a fan. I give the nod to Linkin Park though - they really rocked this show. Having Jay-Z show up and do a couple songs was pretty sweet too.

Hmmm I saw Linkin Park headlining a festival of 7 bands in West Palm Beach ... was really looking forward to them when they took the stage ... and ugh ... so disappointing.

Did they seem to have any talent up on the stage? The band I saw seemed like they were all pretty much rookies. I was also disappointed that they didn't seem to really rock out their songs.


Ok here is one of their biggest hits from that show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6IRt9DeHM

For comparison, here is the studio version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6IRt9DeHM

Great venue though , i love Milton Keynes

I'm going to see Kid Rock & Lynyrd Skynyrd on July 5th, can't wait!!

Billy Powell died........... :(
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Funny I havent seen this one mentioned....picked it up at WalMart last week. Fantastic!

http://www.fulvuedrive-in.com/cover/STYXCLEVELANDBLURAY.jpg

I should state first off that I have the BD version.

Sorry, I have to disagree, the AQ on this one, on my rig, to my ears it sounded downright lifeless, thin with little to no bass. Quite a mess actually. In fact I ripped it out of the player after 4 or 5 songs.

This is only my opinion and I have had other concerts where other reviewers and myself (Toe):D included were at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Hmmm I saw Linkin Park headlining a festival of 7 bands in West Palm Beach ... was really looking forward to them when they took the stage ... and ugh ... so disappointing.

Did they seem to have any talent up on the stage? The band I saw seemed like they were all pretty much rookies. I was also disappointed that they didn't seem to really rock out their songs.


Ok here is one of their biggest hits from that show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6IRt9DeHM

For comparison, here is the studio version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6IRt9DeHM

Great venue though , i love Milton Keynes

Hmmm - I dunno. Maybe I'm just a big Linkin Park fan. I only have about 35 concernt DVDs and this is in my top 5-7 now.

At times I think they rocked it out pretty good, this one rocked IMO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPp0SXJNSVM&feature=related

But they have a fair amount of songs that aren't nearly as heavy as people typically associate LP with. Again, IMO.

One thing for sure, Chester the lead singer, the guy who does all the screaming, sounds noticably different live than on the albums. It took a minute to get used to but it's all good in my book now.

Hmmm - I dunno. Maybe I'm just a big Linkin Park fan. I only have about 35 concernt DVDs and this is in my top 5-7 now.

At times I think they rocked it out pretty good, this one rocked IMO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPp0SXJNSVM&feature=related

But they have a fair amount of songs that aren't nearly as heavy as people typically associate LP with. Again, IMO.

One thing for sure, Chester the lead singer, the guy who does all the screaming, sounds noticably different live than on the albums. It took a minute to get used to but it's all good in my book now.

Any other reccomendations? :)

I should state first off that I have the BD version.

Sorry, I have to disagree, the AQ on this one, on my rig, to my ears it sounded downright lifeless, thin with little to no bass. Quite a mess actually. In fact I ripped it out of the player after 4 or 5 songs.

This is only my opinion and I have had other concerts where other reviewers and myself (Toe):D included were at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Yes I have BD version as well.....I did notice it was a little shy in bass department but lifeless? Certainly not the performance and AQ in DTS HD-MA I thought was good.....not fantastic but more than fair.

I'll listen to it again tomorrow and compare it to a couple others.

I still have Live at Leeds on vinyl when it 1st came out. :)
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I gotta break down and order the 40th anniversary edition of Woodstock DVD. $48.99 wasn't the kind of hit I was thinking about taking. :D

Dudes. First time in the forum but been watching and reading for a minute. Stoked about posting more. Hello AVS!

I feel you on the DVD. I was not expecting the $49 but then again it looks worth it. Also, the Suzie Does Woodstock interactive vid is a cool idea (it's choose your own adventure style), even if it does not have much to do the actual woodstock.

It's not serious, but sorta funny. Too bad there is no nudity//

I'm an old guy and disappointed with both Beck, Clapton and Winwood. I won't even bother reviewing Clapton and Winwood's new DVD on Amazon as all the old farts are still hanging onto the 60's and to say anything 'bad' would just start a flame war.

I really love some of the new groups as they put every one of those 60+ year old relics to shame. 'Time has come today'. :)

Blasphemy!! :D

There's no right or wrong in musical taste, it's a personal thing, but just because they're not re-inventing the wheel does not make them any less than masters at their craft. Talent is talent, I don't care how old or what genre they're in, you can't hide it, or lack thereof.

Any artist, even contemporary, that has true talent has looked back in time and has a real reverence for their predecessors, and likely drew influence there as well.

I like how you say you wouldn't want to say anything bad while calling them old farts and relics! If you're that worried about starting flame wars then don't be so condescending to begin with. ;)

This is only my opinion and I have had other concerts where other reviewers and myself (Toe):D included were at opposite ends of the spectrum.


What are you talking about?:confused::D


Watched the Steve Miller you suggested last night JetJockey1 and you are batting 100% as far as your suggestions to me......awesome! Great show, awesome sound....thanks again.:) Keep em coming!

Blasphemy!! :D

There's no right or wrong in musical taste, it's a personal thing, but just because they're not re-inventing the wheel does not make them any less than masters at their craft. Talent is talent, I don't care how old or what genre they're in, you can't hide it, or lack thereof.

Any artist, even contemporary, that has true talent has looked back in time and has a real reverence for their predecessors, and likely drew influence there as well.

I like how you say you wouldn't want to say anything bad while calling them old farts and relics! If you're that worried about starting flame wars then don't be so condescending to begin with. ;)

So, your one of them. :D

Talent fades with aging..........

The energy dies, the mind slows down, the fingers get slower.

Try U2 or Motley Crue for some GOOD STUFF! :)

They make those old farts look, well OLDer than dirt. :p

Clapton needs to turn off his money machine and retire!

The 60's are dead and gone...............

So, your one of them. :D

Talent fades with aging..........

The energy dies, the mind slows down, the fingers get slower.

Try U2 or Motley Crue for some GOOD STUFF! :)

They make those old farts look, well OLDer than dirt. :p

Clapton needs to turn off his money machine and retire!

The 60's are dead and gone...............

Bwaaaaahaaaaaaa! What a riot!!!!

-t

So, your one of them. :D

Talent fades with aging..........

Try U2 or Motley Crue for some GOOD STUFF! :)



Yup, dirt and I get along real well. ;)

Dead wrong. I hope that's tounge in cheek, the truth is old guys like Buddy Guy or Jeff Beck would put most of todays guitarists to bed without their supper in heartbeat!

U2 & Motley?? Those guys aren't exactly spring chickens either.. :p

Yup, dirt and I get along real well. ;)

Dead wrong. I hope that's tounge in cheek, the truth is old guys like Buddy Guy or Jeff Beck would put most of todays guitarists to bed without their supper in heartbeat!

U2 & Motley?? Those guys aren't exactly spring chickens either.. :p

OOOOOOOO....Either one, Guy or Beck (Buddy Guy is someone I saw a couple of years ago in Chicago. Going to see him again there in July. Just a great blues guitarist.

Beck...very long career ranging from rock to blues to jazz. In every genre, he's excelled.

But, you can say the same thing about all of those previously mentioned. Clapton has excelled in different genres, again ranging from Rock, to Blues, to Pop, over a long period of time, both as a front man, and a session guitarist, playing at the same high level.

You look at a guy like B.B. King, and he really didn't hit his stride until he was older.

Then, you look at someone like Jamie Foxx, who's recent songs are little more than talking into a digital voice manipulator, and letting the recording mixer/engineer manipulate it until there's something resembling a song (if you want to call it that), and you get an idea of how talented some of the other people mentioned really are.

OOOOOOOO....Either one, Guy or Beck (Buddy Guy is someone I saw a couple of years ago in Chicago. Going to see him again there in July. Just a great blues guitarist.

Beck...very long career ranging from rock to blues to jazz. In every genre, he's excelled.

But, you can say the same thing about all of those previously mentioned. Clapton has excelled in different genres, again ranging from Rock, to Blues, to Pop, over a long period of time, both as a front man, and a session guitarist, playing at the same high level.

You look at a guy like B.B. King, and he really didn't hit his stride until he was older.
Then, you look at someone like Jamie Foxx, who's recent songs are little more than talking into a digital voice manipulator, and letting the recording mixer/engineer manipulate it until there's something resembling a song (if you want to call it that), and you get an idea of how talented some of the other people mentioned really are.

Yeah there's a lot of crap considered music out there, it was a bit ironic to see Jamie "mentoring" the Idols come to think of it. :p

I wonder if vision would be saying the same thing about Stevie Ray were he alive today...

To me a master, is someone who's style is unmistakable regardless of what genre they're playing, any one of those guys mentioned just has to play one note and I know who it is. That's not something that happens overnight, and it's something that doesn't appear to fade with age IMO. There's a ton of non-descript guitar players out there that are very good, can play rifts coming out of their ying-yang, but can't quite get to that level.

........
Then, you look at someone like Jamie Foxx, who's recent songs are little more than talking into a digital voice manipulator, and letting the recording mixer/engineer manipulate it until there's something resembling a song (if you want to call it that), and you get an idea of how talented some of the other people mentioned really are.
This is where your argument loses all credibility. Not because I disagree about the Jamie Foxx song, (I don't like it either), but because you throw in all artists of this era in there with him.
It's like using William Shatner's record as an example of all music of the 70's!

This is where your argument loses all credibility. Not because I disagree about the Jamie Foxx song, (I don't like it either), but because you throw in all artists of this era in there with him.
It's like using William Shatner's record as an example of all music of the 70's!

I wouldn't say it looses all credibility, unfortunately the Jamie Foxx example is an almost accurate reflection of the mainstream right now; it's "cookie cutter - one size fits all" for the most part. Pop music has had that formula in play since a few years after MTV. (It was in play before that, but the artists did require some musical talent to get into the mix.)

Good new artists are out there, no doubt about it, but they're getting increasingly hard to find.

I wouldn't say it looses all credibility, unfortunately the Jamie Foxx example is an almost accurate reflection of the mainstream right now; it's "cookie cutter - one size fits all" for the most part. Pop music has had that formula in play since a few years after MTV. (It was in play before that, but the artists did require some musical talent to get into the mix.)

Good new artists are out there, no doubt about it, but they're getting increasingly hard to find.

You're confusing the pop mainstream with "Musical Artists"
Don't forget that the most revered era of those that frequent this thread was dominated in the mainstream, (in part), by The Osmonds, The Partridge Family, Bobby Goldsboro, The Archies, The Monkees....

As for finding new artists you like, it's never been easier!
Every Tuesday, new releases are posted on the various music services.
Just go down the New Release list, sample them all. Buy the ones that interest you or put that artist/song into Pandora to explore further.

Yup, dirt and I get along real well. ;)

Dead wrong. I hope that's tounge in cheek, the truth is old guys like Buddy Guy or Jeff Beck would put most of todays guitarists to bed without their supper in heartbeat!

U2 & Motley?? Those guys aren't exactly spring chickens either.. :p

I have a great bootleg of Buddy Guy and his band from 2006. Most excellent performace. :)

Clapton is wearing on me, the king of pop! ............... :rolleyes:

You're confusing the pop mainstream with "Musical Artists"
Don't forget that the most revered era of those that frequent this thread was dominated in the mainstream, (in part), by The Osmonds, The Partridge Family, Bobby Goldsboro, The Archies, The Monkees....

As for finding new artists you like, it's never been easier!
Every Tuesday, new releases are posted on the various music services.
Just go down the New Release list, sample them all. Buy the ones that interest you or put that artist/song into Pandora to explore further.

Nope, no confusion here. There's tenfold more "Partridges" nowadays but they've all got turrets and criminal records!!

The physical act of finding new artists is easier, but finding good ones isn't.

I have a great bootleg of Buddy Guy and his band from 2006. Most excellent performace. :)


Ha, got you beat, I saw him live here at a small venue here called the Commodore a few months ago. What a treat!

Nope, no confusion here. There's tenfold more "Partridges" nowadays but they've all got turrets and criminal records!!

Like Danny Bonaduce???? :D:p:eek: LOL
The physical act of finding new artists is easier, but finding good ones isn't.
Plenty of good ones are out there.
You're just not finding them I guess.
(This is not to say you'll like them all)

FWIW, younger people tend to have more time to share and explore these things.
Also most people settle into what they're comfortable with over time, narrowing what they consider to be 'good' to a very small sampling.

A musician who can give us "River Of Tears" doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone. For my part, I am sitting here at his figurative knees hoping he will drop another anywhere near that one on me.

Plenty of good ones are out there.
You're just not finding them I guess.
(This is not to say you'll like them all)

FWIW, younger people tend to have more time to share and explore these things.
Also most people settle into what they're comfortable with over time, narrowing what they consider to be 'good' to a very small sampling.

I couldn't agree with you more on that last part, that's human nature I suppose. I have to freely admit that in terms of exposure to new artists I'm probably limited, but not as limited as some, having two sons grow up in my home that also love music helped with my "sampling" per se.

Maybe a better way for me to put it is there definitely is good new talent out there... I'm just getting the impression that you've got to sift through more crap to get to it than we used to.

Ha, got you beat, I saw him live here at a small venue here called the Commodore a few months ago. What a treat!

:mad: I hate those huge stadium performances.

Yeah, you got a treat. :)

I couldn't agree with you more on that last part, that's human nature I suppose. I have to freely admit that in terms of exposure to new artists I'm probably limited, but not as limited as some, having two sons grow up in my home that also love music helped with my "sampling" per se.

Maybe a better way for me to put it is there definitely is good new talent out there... I'm just getting the impression that you've got to sift through more crap to get to it than we used to.

Watch for the next Crue Fest.

Motley is bringing into the fold some great new bands. :)

Claption sticks mainly with his old cronies. :D

Warren Haynes adds some great talent with his yearly Christmas Jam.

I like this guy's stuff. :)

John Popper
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/John_Popper.jpg/220px-John_Popper.jpg

Any other reccomendations? :)

Sure. I'm traveling right now and not looking at my discs but:
Foo Fighters - Live at Wembley blu-ray
Nine Inch Nails - Beside you in time blu-ray
Korn - Live at Montreaux blu-ray
Metallica - S&M DVD
3 Doors Down - Away from the Sun DVD

Are all amongst my favs.

Some that I wasn't too impressed with:
Tom Petty soundstage (too much blues, not enough hits)
Steve Miller Chicago (not entertaining enough, too laid back)
Alice Cooper blu-ray (parts were OK but overall I didn't feel it)
Guns n Roses tokyo (Horrible)

Sure. I'm traveling right now and not looking at my discs but:
Foo Fighters - Live at Wembley blu-ray
Nine Inch Nails - Beside you in time blu-ray
Korn - Live at Montreaux blu-ray
Metallica - S&M DVD
3 Doors Down - Away from the Sun DVD

Are all amongst my favs.

Some that I wasn't too impressed with:
Tom Petty soundstage (too much blues, not enough hits)
Steve Miller Chicago (not entertaining enough, too laid back)
Alice Cooper blu-ray (parts were OK but overall I didn't feel it)
Guns n Roses tokyo (Horrible)

Thanx.

How about Alice Cooper?

Wow must not be much in new releases lately. I thought this was a Concert DVD review thread not a open discussion on talent thread.

Wow must not be much in new releases lately. I thought this was a Concert DVD review thread not a open discussion on talent thread.

No, you must have missed the memo, it's now a thread to criticize what other people are posting about! ;)

Actually, it's just a bit of a tangent - nothing too serious or lasting.

What are you talking about?:confused::D


Watched the Steve Miller you suggested last night JetJockey1 and you are batting 100% as far as your suggestions to me......awesome! Great show, awesome sound....thanks again.:) Keep em coming!

Glad to hear that Toe!

I was talking about John Mayer and Abbey Rd season 1, I think we agreed to disagree on the AQ on those two. Mind you, some of JM' stuff sounded better than others...I really liked "Vultures"...have to throw that one on tonite.

I have the Alice Cooper disc on HD DVD, and although I am not an Alice fan, I did find the show very enjoyable with excellent audio!

Glad to hear that Toe!

I was talking about John Mayer and Abbey Rd season 1, I think we agreed to disagree on the AQ on those two. Mind you, some of JM' stuff sounded better than others...I really liked "Vultures"...have to throw that one on tonite.


I knew what you were talking about......I was just being a smart ass!:p

Yup, dirt and I get along real well. ;)

Dead wrong. I hope that's tounge in cheek, the truth is old guys like Buddy Guy or Jeff Beck would put most of todays guitarists to bed without their supper in heartbeat!

U2 & Motley?? Those guys aren't exactly spring chickens either.. :p

I gotta say although I love U2...Edge's axe talent while being effects rich but lacking in pure talent there are so many that could blow him out of the water.

Edge's axe talent while being effects rich but lacking in pure talent...At least you admit it. :cool:

I have the Alice Cooper disc on HD DVD, and although I am not an Alice fan, I did find the show very enjoyable with excellent audio!

That's good to know, I wanted to add some Alice Cooper to my collection and I bought the "Welcome To My Nightmare" DVD since it was one of the concerts of his I went to in the days of my yoot; I watched maybe 10 mins of it, very dissapointing.

Woodstock: 3 Days of Peace & Music Director's Cut (40th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Edition and BD-Live with Amazon Exclusive Bonus Content) [Blu-ray]

This review sounds soooooooo good. I can't wait. :)

I was at the 1969 Woodstock festival and avoided the film version suspecting it would not come close to recreating, or coming up to, the real experience. Still, I viewed the original film premierimg in 1970 just to see if I could spot myself among the masses (I couldn't - and viewing it in a theater didn't come close to being there). After revisiting the original concert site outside Bethel, NY in 2004, I viewed the DVD version. This second viewing was nice but still not as good as being there. In APR09 Roger Ebert and Michael Wadleigh came to my hometown and screened a 70 mm surround sound print with 45 minutes of unseen additional footage; supposedly this print is the same being offered here on Blu-Ray DVD. I was at this showing,too, and was almost bouncing/boogying in the aisles (Alvin Lee, Ten Years After, The Who, Santana, and others) because this print and sound system were superb. It was the closest thing to being there and was a thouroughly exhilirating experience. The surround sound is crisp and clear and expertly synched with the performers. Overall a wonderful experience and a film version that I can say is the closet thing to being there that I've ever experienced - it sparked a lot of memories, I could almost smell the rain and mud. Although I'm reviewing the movie and not the DVD - I expect this is what will be on the BR-DVD. The Blu Ray technogy will not lose much in making the transfer. I am buying this DVD expecting everything I've said about the movie will be true of the BR-DVD. If I find otherwise I'll create a new post.

Woodstock: 3 Days of Peace & Music Director's Cut (40th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Edition and BD-Live with Amazon Exclusive Bonus Content) [Blu-ray]

This review sounds soooooooo good. I can't wait. :)

Point of order...a few replies ago you said the 60's were dead.:confused:

Point of order...a few replies ago you said the 60's were dead.:confused:

They are.

I was 15 in 69.

How about you? :p

They are.

I was 15 in 69.

How about you? :p

I was in London. :cool:
Thanks for asking.:p

I was 22 and at the concert but didnt see much of it.Cant stand to sit through the film again but will view the new stuff.The sixties was the last time I was truly happy.Boy did we blow it.

Let's stick to concert discs. Thanks.

larry

Just watched Diana Krall Live in Rio on blue-ray. Video is real sharp, but I was disappointed in the audio. It was compressed so heavy that I had to run my volume on my Yammy RX-V2400 to -8db to get it to play loud. Normally I listen to concert dics around -15db to -18db. The mix was good, I could hear Jeff Hamilton's brush work real well but I just wish the whole mix had more dynamic range. Live in Paris really set the bar. Diana's worn alittle over the years. She doesn't seem to have the same kind of energy that she did a few years ago. The bossa stuff was good, but she sounded better and played better when she did more straight ahead jazz blues songs. The band still sounds great with Jeff Hamilton playing some great jazz drums, and Anthony Wilson on guitar. If you like Diana Krall I would get this disc. But still my favorite is Live in Paris.
Greg

Just watched Diana Krall Live in Rio on blue-ray. Video is real sharp, but I was disappointed in the audio. It was compressed so heavy that I had to . . .
This is so frustrating. Seems like just about everything today is overcompressed. I really wonder who wants this??? :confused: I know that many (most?) people are completely oblivious to the problem, but that doesn't create the need for the practice. And of course it just completely annoys the rest. So why do it???

Ed

I've yet to hear a DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD track that was compressed so I find that a bit strange with the Diana Krall BR. Were you listening to either of those?
She's definitely one of my favorites when I'm in the mood for that genre so I'll probably end up picking it up anyways.

Also, compressed audio tends to play LOUD on HT systems.. that's one of the reasons why they compress it.


... its the uncompressed audio that we generally have to turn up, just so we can hear the soft passages.

107317 How about a fantastic dts recording that will make your set sound better than you ever thought it could,top notch music to boot. MOE. Live at The Fillmore

I gotta thank you for the heads up on the gem of a DVD! I didn't know it existed till your post.

It finally arrived yesterday and I can say without reservation it's found a place in my top five.

Fantastic audio quality in DTS, and more importantly and outstanding musical adventure, an absolute feast for the ears.

I love the Conch CD, but much prefer their live interpretation of the songs they played off it.

I've yet to hear a DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD track that was compressed so I find that a bit strange with the Diana Krall BR. Were you listening to either of those?
She's definitely one of my favorites when I'm in the mood for that genre so I'll probably end up picking it up anyways.

There have been a few posters that are confident that the Police Certifiable is compressed. I cant confirm this myself since I did not catch it the few times I have listened to it, but will listen for this next time. One thing that definately supports this claim though is how loud this one is (I definately had this one turned down considerable lower than the vast majority of BRs I have listened to while still getting my comfortable concert volume level).

There have been a few posters that are confident that the Police Certifiable is compressed. I cant confirm this myself since I did not catch it the few times I have listened to it, but will listen for this next time. One thing that definately supports this claim though is how loud this one is (I definately had this one turned down considerable lower than the vast majority of BRs I have listened to while still getting my comfortable concert volume level).

I haven't noticed any such variation in volume between the Blu Rays I have with bitstreamed DTS HD MA or TrueHD, maybe one or two db at most.
DVD's in DTS or DD on the other hand is a crap-shoot.

I haven't noticed any such variation in volume between the Blu Rays I have with bitstreamed DTS HD MA or TrueHD, maybe one or two db at most.
DVD's in DTS or DD on the other hand is a crap-shoot.

Interesting. I take back what I said before about the Police after looking at my BR volume notes......I bitstream as well and these concert BRs have landed anywhere from +4 (Chicago w/ Earth Wind and Fire) to -9.5 (John Mayer) from reference calibrated with AVIA and anywhere inbetween. The Police is definately on the louder end, but NIN and JM are in the same ballpark as far as loudness. If I threw on JM right after the Earth Wind and Fire show, and did not make any volume adjustments, it would blow my speakers!:eek:

There have been a few posters that are confident that the Police Certifiable is compressed. I cant confirm this myself since I did not catch it the few times I have listened to it, . . .
I find this wording awkward because it sounds as if you think a record may or may not be compressed. Probably just about every professional recording is compressed to some extent. Some sounds are essentially impossible to record uncompressed without overload because no format today has enough dynamic range. Everything is compressed to some level. The problem is whether there is excessive compression. And there's the problem. Different people will tolerate different thresholds.

Ed

I've yet to hear a DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD track that was compressed so I find that a bit strange with the Diana Krall BR.
There is no relationship between the encoding format such as DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD and the audio engineering. Given that excessive dynamic compression is the norm today, I would expect that most of the recordings using these latest lossless codecs would also exhibit the problem.

Just because the encoding format has the potential for huge dynamic range doesn't mean that it will be used. That has been proven with the legacy Dolby Digital and DTS for music (but not movies which people seem to have the opposite problem of too much dynamic range!) .

Ed

There is no relationship between the encoding format such as DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD and the audio engineering. Given that excessive dynamic compression is the norm today, I would expect that most of the recordings using these latest lossless codecs would also exhibit the problem.

Just because the encoding format has the potential for huge dynamic range doesn't mean that it will be used. That has been proven with the legacy Dolby Digital and DTS for music (but not movies which people seem to have the opposite problem of too much dynamic range!) .

Ed

That could all be true, but I can only base my observations on practical experience. So far every hi-rez BR music disc I have sounds pretty much flawless in comparison to any other format I've heard.

I find this wording awkward because it sounds as if you think a record may or may not be compressed. Probably just about every professional recording is compressed to some extent. Some sounds are essentially impossible to record uncompressed without overload because no format today has enough dynamic range. Everything is compressed to some level. The problem is whether there is excessive compression. And there's the problem. Different people will tolerate different thresholds.

Ed


Thanks Ed:) I was speaking of excessive compression, and again I am just relaying what a few posters were VERY vocal about with the title in question (The Police). I did not hear this compression the few times I listened to it and thought it sounded fantastic (but I could have missed it since I am not sensitive to compression in general)

I just picked up Van Morrison: Astral Weeks Live At the Hollywood Bowl.

Has anyone else had a look/listen with this dvd yet? I spent a few minutes with it last night and while I thought it looked great for a dvd, I was a little put off by the sound. I tried it in both my PS3 and my Oppo 970, and the sound was at a very low level, I actually had my receiver set to "0" for volume. Reference level is usually around -15. With dolby digital selected, the center/front channel sound is just to the left of center. In other words the sound stage is perhaps 20 degrees left of center. Very annoying to me. If I switch to 2 channel and choose dolby pro-logic 2 or logic 7, the sound is centered like it should be.

Otherwise a big Van fan and my first concert dvd of him.

I just picked up Van Morrison: Astral Weeks Live At the Hollywood Bowl.

Has anyone else had a look/listen with this dvd yet? I spent a few minutes with it last night and while I thought it looked great for a dvd, I was a little put off by the sound. I tried it in both my PS3 and my Oppo 970, and the sound was at a very low level, I actually had my receiver set to "0" for volume. Reference level is usually around -15. With dolby digital selected, the center/front channel sound is just to the left of center. In other words the sound stage is perhaps 20 degrees left of center. Very annoying to me. If I switch to 2 channel and choose dolby pro-logic 2 or logic 7, the sound is centered like it should be.

Otherwise a big Van fan and my first concert dvd of him.


I listened to the concert on PBS and the sound wasn't very good. So I haven't picked up the DVD yet. Sounds like maybe it wasn't PBS...though I have to say I haven't been impressed with the concert audio from PBS. Could be my cable co. too.

I have "Live at Montreux 1980 and 1974" on DVD. Like that one a lot.

-t

David Gilmour's 'Remember That Night– Live at the Royal Albert Hall'
I have not seen this yet. Is it work getting for a Pink Floyd fan? How does it compare with "PULSE" which I have seen?
Is Remember that Night much better in Blu-ray over standard DVD?

David Gilmour's 'Remember That Night– Live at the Royal Albert Hall'
I have not seen this yet. Is it work getting for a Pink Floyd fan? How does it compare with "PULSE" which I have seen?
Is Remember that Night much better in Blu-ray over standard DVD?

If you are a Floyd fan you'll like it. Richard Wright plays in the band. There are enough Floyd songs to keep you happy! There are a number of Gilmour's songs from his solo albums too. Plus it's shown in widescreen. I think this concert is better than his "Gdansk" effort.

I don't have the Blu-Ray version but I'm sure it would LOOK better on Blu-Ray. The price difference isn't that much.
It looks great on standard DVD.

-t

David Gilmour's 'Remember That Night– Live at the Royal Albert Hall'
I have not seen this yet. Is it work getting for a Pink Floyd fan? How does it compare with "PULSE" which I have seen?
Is Remember that Night much better in Blu-ray over standard DVD?

Being a long time PF fan, I have both the SD and Blu versions. I was rather disappointed in the Blu version with the PQ, yea it was a better video image in some scenes, but with the laser and light show, the lights just did not have that "pop" like other Blu concert discs I own, ie. The Police; Elton John 60th bday bash; celin dion just to name a few. I did however appreciate the upgrade in the audio department, where as I felt more like being at the show with the clairity of the sound and audience. PF Pulse was trransferred via. video master compared to film, so the image on the dvd also just does not have that "wow" factor, but excellent audio with playing the DD 640 kbs option.

Now, here is hoping that Roger Waters will release his DSOTM tour on Blu Ray, that would be a good thing. I have a bootleg of the DSOTM, and that I would rate very high PQ, but only "good" in the audio department.

Also, DG Live in Gndask would also be welcome on Blu Ray, which I am surprised they didn't originaly, being that they had 2 or 3 different package options for sale with the cd's.

Thank you for the feedback on Gilmour. I don't have a Blu-ray player yet but yesterday I found the concert in Blu-ray cheaper than the non Blu-ray at the same store. Did not buy either yet.

David Gilmour's 'Remember That Night– Live at the Royal Albert Hall'
I have not seen this yet. Is it work getting for a Pink Floyd fan? How does it compare with "PULSE" which I have seen?
Is Remember that Night much better in Blu-ray over standard DVD?


I think this Gilmour BR is better in every single way compared to Pulse(besides the video/light show which Pulse has the advantage). PQ is a bit rough for BR but plenty good and the audio (which is the most important thing with these concert BRs from a tech point of view) is awesome and easily much better than any floyd or floyd related release before it IMO! Davids new album (which he plays in the first set) is mesmerizing and one of the best non Floyd and even Floyd releases yet (IMO). The band is on and it has so many great extras worth seeing. Go get it or atleast rent it!

I haven't read real far into this thread, but I don't see Rush mentioned anywhere.
I'd go everything except Rio, for some reason that one was well below Rush's own high standards. I'm surprised they signed off on it.
I have the re-release of Exit on DVD. I understand that is hard to get now. I also have the Grace Under Pressure re-release and of course A Show of Hands and the 30th anniversary job which has the sound your looking for.
Too bad they didn't do a DVD of Different Stages as far as I know.:(

If you are a Floyd fan you'll like it. Richard Wright plays in the band. There are enough Floyd songs to keep you happy! There are a number of Gilmour's songs from his solo albums too. Plus it's shown in widescreen. I think this concert is better than his "Gdansk" effort.

I don't have the Blu-Ray version but I'm sure it would LOOK better on Blu-Ray. The price difference isn't that much.
It looks great on standard DVD.

-t

Roger Waters - In The Flesh - is the current "floyd" concert disk to beat. Super tight show with amazing female singers, finished off with 2 spectacular sets of Roger Waters's solo work ... which ... if your a true Pink Floyd fan you have to love his almost religous songs from "Amused To Death" and "Pros And Cons of Hitchiking":

An example of his solo work from this DVD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQmJuCHxmk


"David Gilmour Live In Concert" is a close second, with some intimate acoustic Gilmour, like this flawless french song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHoKe9rFvF4

OMG that combo of a cello and Gilmours voice is amazing ...

Remember That Night is technically excellent, but the performance is kind of like a giant jam session - not tight and theatrical like a Floyd concert needs to be.

Pulse is technically too rough around the edges ... though it does have the best live version of Dark Side of the Moon.

Roger Waters - In The Flesh - is the current "floyd" concert disk to beat. Super tight show with amazing female singers, finished off with 2 spectacular sets of Roger Waters's solo work ... which ... if your a true Pink Floyd fan you have to love his almost religous songs from "Amused To Death" and "Pros And Cons of Hitchiking":

An example of his solo work from this DVD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQmJuCHxmk


"David Gilmour Live In Concert" is a close second, with some intimate acoustic Gilmour, like this flawless french song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHoKe9rFvF4

OMG that combo of a cello and Gilmours voice is amazing ...

Remember That Night is technically excellent, but the performance is kind of like a giant jam session - not tight and theatrical like a Floyd concert needs to be.

Pulse is technically too rough around the edges ... though it does have the best live version of Dark Side of the Moon.

While I enjoyed In The Flesh, I think Remember that Night is hands down the better overall experience. Roger Waters comes off as so self absorbed to me at times that it takes me out of his show......The giant jam session in RTN is one of the big things that gives it an advantage over the others. Also, this is not a Floyd concert, so it should (your word) not be expected to be like one.....go in with an open mind and experience it for what it is (not for what it isnt;)) All just a matter of opinion though and some will prefer one, some the other (and some might prefer a dif release alltogether);)

One other RW's disc's that cannot be forgotten is "The Wall: Live in Berlin"

excellent;excellent;excellent production as well as the PQ and AQ

IMO of course

I haven't read real far into this thread, but I don't see Rush mentioned anywhere.
I'd go everything except Rio, for some reason that one was well below Rush's own high standards. I'm surprised they signed off on it.
I have the re-release of Exit on DVD. I understand that is hard to get now. I also have the Grace Under Pressure re-release and of course A Show of Hands and the 30th anniversary job which has the sound your looking for.
Too bad they didn't do a DVD of Different Stages as far as I know.:(
I guess you certainly haven't looked far into this thread. Rush has been discussed quite thoroughly. If you're interested in specific topics, there are search capabilities in both the thread and forum.

As far as Rio is concerned, you're almost correct. It's not just bad - it may hold the record for the worst AQ of any concert DVD. I also have to question your statement "Rush's own high standards". That may be true for their live performances, but certainly not true for DVD recordings. Most are down right bad. The best is Snakes & Arrows, but many have [rightfully] picked on that one too.

Ed

Roger Waters - In The Flesh - is the current "floyd" concert disk to beat.
WOW. This almost never, never happens - but I've got to agree on this one. (John - are you sure you mean that ;))

Ed

WOW. This almost never, never happens - but I've got to agree on this one. (John - are you sure you mean that ;))

Ed

I agree with both of you on this one for AQ, PQ and overall performance. It is the one that sees the most time in my player of all the PF/RW/DG disks I own.

Ed. I picked up the Randy Bachman - Every Song Tells A Story disk you recommended a while back. Great sound, tight band and I enjoyed the performance more than I might have guessed. The bass line throughout the show may be the cleanest, tightest and most well defined of any show I own. Thanks.

Ed. I picked up the Randy Bachman - Every Song Tells A Story disk you recommended a while back. Great sound, tight band and I enjoyed the performance more than I might have guessed. The bass line throughout the show may be the cleanest, tightest and most well defined of any show I own. Thanks.
Glad you liked it. I agree with everything you say - plus I really like the stories that Randy tells about each song.

Ed

...if your a true Pink Floyd fan you have to love his almost religous songs from "Amused To Death" and "Pros And Cons of Hitchiking".No I don't.

;)

I guess you certainly haven't looked far into this thread. Rush has been discussed quite thoroughly. If you're interested in specific topics, there are search capabilities in both the thread and forum.

As far as Rio is concerned, you're almost correct. It's not just bad - it may hold the record for the worst AQ of any concert DVD. I also have to question your statement "Rush's own high standards". That may be true for their live performances, but certainly not true for DVD recordings. Most are down right bad. The best is Snakes & Arrows, but many have [rightfully] picked on that one too.

Ed

Oh I don't know....Show of Hands is ok and the 30th anniversary DVD is even better. The ones before that though are a little lacking, yes. Although one must consider the technology and availability of said consumer products at the time. I mean things were far different in the 80s and even the 90s.
Perhaps, the good guys in Rush don't have much control over that as I think. Perhaps RIO proves that because it is awful.
I don't have the Snakes and Arrows DVD yet, thanks for mentioning, it reminded me. I better get on it.:)

Throw in this very sub par Snakes and Arrows BR recording/mix then throw in NIN, Dave and Tim, Jewel, either Chris Botti disc, Live from Abbey Road, John Mayer, Chicago with Earth Wind and Fire, The Police, Blue Man Group BR, David Gilmour, not to mention all the great sounding SD-DVD concerts.......if you dont hear a dif from Snakes and Arrows to ANY of these discs as far as recording/mix, I dont know how to explain it at that point. The dif between any of these discs and this Rush BR is night and day IMO. They went WAY overboard with trying to recreate BEING at this Rush show and it flat out did not work IMO. Distant, thin, WAY to ambient, not direct, harsh in a sense are all things that come to mind with this Rush BR. Hell just do an A/B with this and NIN: Beside You in Time........night and day from a recording/mix standpoint.

Alright, I'm back. Just to be sure my ears weren't playing tricks on me, I went out and bought a new receiver capable of playing back DTS master HD and Dolby TrueHD - the Pioneer Elite SC-05.

I connected it via HDMI to my Sony PS3 (latest firmware rev) and set the digital output to Bitsream. I used the auto-calibration feature with their supplied microphone to quickly tune the room. I brought out my latest Blu-Ray concert discs - The Police, David Gilmour Gdansk, Blu-Man Group, NIN, and the excellent Jeff Beck at Ronnie Scotts.

FYI, Chicago/EW&F disc is unlistenable IMO - due to the performances, not the AQ.

That being said -

I no longer have to turn down my sub on the Snakes & Arrows disc, and it sounds even more amazing than with my previous receiver (Pioneer Elite VSX-33TX).

I was alone in the house so I cranked it. Everything is there, and the use of 5.1 in the mix was tasty, especially during Neil Peart's drum solo. IMHO the mix kicks ass, and stands up with the best of my collection (which is no slouch).

I thoroughly enjoyed it so we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Now, the Police disc, to me, is a disappointment. I was at the 3rd to the last show of the tour, at the PNC Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ - an amphitheater.

We are friends with the FOH engineer, and were able to buy band seats, 6th row center. The show totally rocked, and Sting was indefatigable. I was so looking forward to the live release on Blu-Ray.

I bought it the day it was released, and put it on that night. It seems to me that for that particular show, they phoned it in. I didn't see or hear any of the dynamic tension and attitude I saw and heard in Holmdel. It was like two entire different bands. So while the sound quality is fine, the performance (though not as bad as Chicago/EWF) for me was a let down.

As to Nine Inch Nails, theirs was the first concert Blu-Ray I bought. While it is certainly decent, I think their previous lve release - And All That Could Have Been - blows away the new one in terms of AQ and attitude.

Again, these are my opinions, YMMV.

With my new system, my "show off my system" favs haven't changed much, some are still DVD versions:

Roger Waters - In the Flesh
David Gilmour - Remember That Night
Peter Gabriel - Growing Up Live
Alison Krauss & Union Station - Live
Peter Frampton - Live in Detroit
Eric Clapton - One More Car, One More Rider
Iron Maiden - Rock in Rio
Blue Man Group - The Complex Rock Tour Live
Jeff Beck - Performing This Week Live at Ronnie Scott's
Heaven and Hell - Live from Radio City
Woodstock 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray extras bonus footage disc (digitally transfered from the 8-track 1" multitrack masters through Burl Audio B2 A-to-D converters and remixed by Eddie Kramer)
Neil Young Archives - 24 bit, 192 kHz stereo remixed and remastered from the master 16 and 24 track master tapes and 2-track masters.
Queen - Night at the Opera DVD-A w/ music video - original 24 track 2" master tapes were baked and then transferred into a Nuendo Digital Audio Workstation, then re-mixed by original producer Roy Thomas Baker with Brian May supervising.

Snakes & Arrows Blue-Ray just seems like made-for-TV crap to me, The video direction is flat-out annoying, with its relentless switching between random camera shots, with very little artistic choices apparently made.


The mic mixing is also annoying, I dont hear any of that wall-o-sound that Rush puts out in concert.

Its all anticeptic - theres none of that good distortion that you get at concerts where the different players occasionally overwhelm their bandmates and take over the show. Everything is too neatly compartmentalized in the audio-mix. I truely hate it!

LOL it is better than all previous Rush DVDs though, if thats any consolation.

Snakes & Arrows Blue-Ray just seems like made-for-TV crap to me, The video direction is flat-out annoying, with its relentless switching between random camera shots, with very little artistic choices apparently made.


The mic mixing is also annoying, I dont hear any of that wall-o-sound that Rush puts out in concert.

Its all anticeptic - theres none of that good distortion that you get at concerts where the different players occasionally overwhelm their bandmates and take over the show. Everything is too neatly compartmentalized in the audio-mix. I truely hate it!

LOL it is better than all previous Rush DVDs though, if thats any consolation.

I have not purchased the Snakes and Arrows DVD yet. (Yes, I said DVD, I can't stand the PQ or lack thereof on BlueRay to my eyes, everyone elses mileage may vary).
I'm wondering if maybe the sound is better on the DVD version? Although, I can't imagine why it would be if it's just a copy of the same thing as on the BlueRay.
I'm the same way, I like live concerts to be "live" concerts. There is "an element" or little taste of that in some of the earlier Rush DVDs except Rio (you can't hear anything but mud in that one) and I have yet to watch R30 all the way through, but so far it is missing in that one too, I must agree.
Will I purchase the Snakes and Arrows CD? Yes, because when it comes right down to it I am a big Rush fan who has never seen them in person in the first place so the DVDs are all I have and I do know I am missing a great deal haveing not seen them in person. Usually didn't have the money and even worse nobody to go with. I'm the only one who likes Rush amongst the people I know, well, it's not for everybody just like anything else. (That said, I do avoid Rio like the plague and won't be getting it anytime in the near or distant future, that one is just way too off track for me).:)

Roger Waters - In The Flesh - is the current "floyd" concert disk to beat. Super tight show with amazing female singers, finished off with 2 spectacular sets of Roger Waters's solo work ... which ... if your a true Pink Floyd fan you have to love his almost religous songs from "Amused To Death" and "Pros And Cons of Hitchiking"

In the Flesh is my favorite between the two Floyd "gentlemen." I own RTN, if only for the fabulous version of Shine On You Crazy Diamond, but I also think the Gdansk version of Comfortably Numb is the best. Simply put, I like the musicians (aside from Richard Wright, of course) in RW's band more than in DG's.

FYI, Chicago/EW&F disc is unlistenable IMO - due to the performances, not the AQ.


I thoroughly enjoyed it so we will have to agree to disagree on this one.



I am talking strictly AQ for what it is worth.....if you cant get around whatever issues you have with Chicago/EW&F as far as the music (I am not a fan of either band) goes, I dont know what to tell you.....this is one hell of a recording/mix.

As far as Snakes and Arrows, if you like it that is all that matters;) It doesnt matter that I think it is the least impressive BR concert I have listened to from a recording/mix standpoint (which I do). To each his own.

I have not listened to the other NIN show you speak of, but just threw it in my que....thanks:)

Snakes & Arrows Blue-Ray just seems like made-for-TV crap to me, The video direction is flat-out annoying, with its relentless switching between random camera shots, with very little artistic choices apparently made.


The mic mixing is also annoying, I dont hear any of that wall-o-sound that Rush puts out in concert.


Agreed. I would go as far as saying the mix/recording is terrible on S&A!:eek:

I have not purchased the Snakes and Arrows DVD yet. (Yes, I said DVD, I can't stand the PQ or lack thereof on BlueRay to my eyes, everyone elses mileage may vary).

If you have good upsampling on your DVD player or HDTV, you may not see such a big difference on Blu-Ray, but if you have a recevier capble of decoding up to 7.1 channels of uncompressed audio, you will HEAR a difference, and that is the main reason I went Blu-Ray in the first place. When the discs starting coming out using TrueHD and Master HD I upgraded my receiver (I also was running out of HDMI inputs on my Sony SXRD set).

If the producer and the engineers take the audio mix seriously, the resulting uncompressed 24-bit, 96 kHz or 192 kHz audio is a revelation. Read Neil Young's perspective on the differences between Blu-Ray and DVD here:

http://www.neilyoungarchives.com/NYAFAQ.html

The fact that Blu-Ray players come with built-in hard drives and internet connectivity is a big plus as well - with the Neil Young Archives, he has already made material available that wasn't ready in time for the release, and promises to provide more content over time as it becomes available, free of charge. What's cool is that it downloads in the background, and then shows up seamlessly on the Blu-Ray menu's TimeLine feature. Very slick implementation of the technology.

For me, the coolest thing with his Blu-Ray product is that you can peruse the menus while the music is playing - scope out the TimeLine, read the lyrics or the studio notes, all without skipping a beat.

I'm wondering if maybe the sound is better on the DVD version? Although, I can't imagine why it would be if it's just a copy of the same thing as on the BlueRay.That's the thing - on the newer Blu-Ray releases, it's not the same mix as the DVD version, as it contains up to 4 times the audio sampling resolution and up to 2 more channels (6.1 and 7.1).

When I wanted a game system to play Rock Band and Guitar Hero 2 years ago, I chose the PS3 because of the Blu-Ray capability and the internal hard drive - it just made sense to me over the XBox 360, and I really didn't want to have any more Microsoft product in my home than absolutely necessary. Plus, I had a large amount of PSOne and PS2 titles already, so the backward compatibility was important.

I love my PS3 and have never looked back. When Star Wars: The Force Unleashed came out, I was blown away (no pun intended). I'm sure at some point I will move my trusty region-free, PAL/NTSC Pioneer DVD player to another room and invest in a 'proper' Blu-Ray player (once they add the recording capability). In the meantime, I am 100% HDMI and 100% happy with my system (sorry if that sounds like blasphemy 'round these parts!)

-gil

If you have good upsampling on your DVD player or HDTV, you may not see such a big difference on Blu-Ray, but if you have a recevier capble of decoding up to 7.1 channels of uncompressed audio, you will HEAR a difference, and that is the main reason I went Blu-Ray in the first place. When the discs starting coming out using TrueHD and Master HD I upgraded my receiver (I also was running out of HDMI inputs on my Sony SXRD set).

If the producer and the engineers take the audio mix seriously, the resulting uncompressed 24-bit, 96 kHz or 192 kHz audio is a revelation. Read Neil Young's perspective on the differences between Blu-Ray and DVD here:

http://www.neilyoungarchives.com/NYAFAQ.html

The fact that Blu-Ray players come with built-in hard drives and internet connectivity is a big plus as well - with the Neil Young Archives, he has already made material available that wasn't ready in time for the release, and promises to provide more content over time as it becomes available, free of charge. What's cool is that it downloads in the background, and then shows up seamlessly on the Blu-Ray menu's TimeLine feature. Very slick implementation of the technology.

For me, the coolest thing with his Blu-Ray product is that you can peruse the menus while the music is playing - scope out the TimeLine, read the lyrics or the studio notes, all without skipping a beat.

That's the thing - on the newer Blu-Ray releases, it's not the same mix as the DVD version, as it contains up to 4 times the audio sampling resolution and up to 2 more channels (6.1 and 7.1).

When I wanted a game system to play Rock Band and Guitar Hero 2 years ago, I chose the PS3 because of the Blu-Ray capability and the internal hard drive - it just made sense to me over the XBox 360, and I really didn't want to have any more Microsoft product in my home than absolutely necessary. Plus, I had a large amount of PSOne and PS2 titles already, so the backward compatibility was important.

I love my PS3 and have never looked back. When Star Wars: The Force Unleashed came out, I was blown away (no pun intended). I'm sure at some point I will move my trusty region-free, PAL/NTSC Pioneer DVD player to another room and invest in a 'proper' Blu-Ray player (once they add the recording capability). In the meantime, I am 100% HDMI and 100% happy with my system (sorry if that sounds like blasphemy 'round these parts!)

-gil

As long as you and others in this forum are happy with what you are seeing and hearing in your videos, that is all that matters!

Just remember The technology doesn't guarantee that those that are making product that uses it, are actually taking advantage of it. The few entries before yours concerning the Rush videos are a great example. Look how on both DVD and Blu-Ray fans are unhappy with the sound. BR has the superior technology and yet, the audio engineers/mixers/producers failed to take advantage of its capabilities. That goes for video as well as audio. Some have said that a similar concert on BR is only marginally better looking than the same on DVD. I think we've all seen examples of that in the past with video on DVD looking only marginally better than the VHS copy we owned before it. Time and consumer pressure will fix all this. It did for the VHS/DVD transition.

I don't have 100% HDMI. I can switch between analog and HDMI to suit my video tastes. Still have analog receiver so my audio is still that as well. Don't have BR. Probably will within the next couple of years... but like you, I'm 100% happy with what I have.

If I had a million dollars though...
-t

As long as you and others in this forum are happy with what you are seeing and hearing in your videos, that is all that matters!

Just remember The technology doesn't guarantee that those that are making product that uses it, are actually taking advantage of it. The few entries before yours concerning the Rush videos are a great example. Look how on both DVD and Blu-Ray fans are unhappy with the sound. BR has the superior technology and yet, the audio engineers/mixers/producers failed to take advantage of its capabilities. That goes for video as well as audio. Some have said that a similar concert on BR is only marginally better looking than the same on DVD. I think we've all seen examples of that in the past with video on DVD looking only marginally better than the VHS copy we owned before it. Time and consumer pressure will fix all this. It did for the VHS/DVD transition.

I don't have 100% HDMI. I can switch between analog and HDMI to suit my video tastes. Still have analog receiver so my audio is still that as well. Don't have BR. Probably will within the next couple of years... but like you, I'm 100% happy with what I have.

If I had a million dollars though...
-t

As far as these concerts go (and movies for that matter) the BIG thing is the recording/mix IMO. going from DD to TrueHD or DTS-MA or LPCM can improve things to some degree, but if the recording/mix is not there in the first place (Rush Snakes and Arrows is a perfect example of this) lossless will not make any significant diference (I dont think it makes a sig dif either way as evidence by double blind tests done in the past, but that is a dif discussion for a dif thread). I have quite a few SD-DVD concerts that sound better than some of the lossless BR concerts I have listened to (again, Rush is a great example) simply because the recording/mix is better. Of course lossless should be used, but the recording/mix is absolutely the crucial ingredient.

As far as video goes, I can see a big diference between most BRs and SD-DVDs on my 94" screen.

As far as video goes, I can see a big diference between most BRs and SD-DVDs on my 94" screen.

That is really the truth, on my 102" screen the difference between BR @1080p/24 and upscaled SD-DVD is quite appreciable, whereas on my 46" Aquos it's marginal at best.

I had three new DVD's arrive last week, Gallagher @ Cork, Clapton/Windwood and MOE @ Filmore.

What's the consensus here on the Clapton/Windwood DVD?

It didn't blow me away, there was some good tracks but all in all it was a pretty sterile performance. AQ was ok and I don't really care about PQ on concert DVD's.

My favorite of the bunch was the MOE Live @ Filmore concert, I spent a couple of hour with a big sh**-eating grin on my face with that one, like I posted earlier. AQ was superb for SD-DVD in DTS.

Gallagher was a treat, I'm a huge fan and love his earthy style, and the AQ was just ok.

What's the consensus here on the Clapton/Windwood DVD?


I rate it along with Beck's performance. Two thumbs down.

I had three new DVD's arrive last week, Gallagher @ Cork, Clapton/Windwood and MOE @ Filmore.

What's the consensus here on the Clapton/Windwood DVD?

It didn't blow me away, there was some good tracks but all in all it was a pretty sterile performance. AQ was ok and I don't really care about PQ on concert DVD's. I was at that show at the Garden, and have been patiently waiting for it to come out on video.

I pre-ordered the Blu-Ray, and it arrived last week. Ho-hum. It is okay but nor fantastic, and I prefer Eric's 2001 'One Road One Rider', both in AQ and in performance.

Sigh. You can't have everything. Where would you put it?

As far as these concerts go (and movies for that matter) the BIG thing is the recording/mix IMO. going from DD to TrueHD or DTS-MA or LPCM can improve things to some degree, but if the recording/mix is not there in the first place (Rush Snakes and Arrows is a perfect example of this) lossless will not make any significant diference (I dont think it makes a sig dif either way as evidence by double blind tests done in the past, but that is a dif discussion for a dif thread)Of course the original mixdown is important - you can't polish a turd.

But if the producer and engineers know that the end product is going to be Blu-Ray HD audio (whether Dolby or DTS) and they plan for that in advance; recording at 24-bit, 192 khz and staying 24/192 throught the mix process, it will sound better uncompressed than compressed.

As for the double-blind tests, they have to do with 48k vs 96k vs 192k, not compressed vs uncompressed. The ear is more sensitive to compression techniques than it is to samples-per-second A-to-D conversion.

That is really the truth, on my 102" screen the difference between BR @1080p/24 and upscaled SD-DVD is quite appreciable, whereas on my 46" Aquos it's marginal at best.

I could not agree more:) We just got a 46" set and the dif between a good upscaled dvd and most BRs is not a huge dif, but downstairs it is easily noticable.

Of course the original mixdown is important - you can't polish a turd.

But if the producer and engineers know that the end product is going to be Blu-Ray HD audio (whether Dolby or DTS) and they plan for that in advance; recording at 24-bit, 192 khz and staying 24/192 throught the mix process, it will sound better uncompressed than compressed.

As for the double-blind tests, they have to do with 48k vs 96k vs 192k, not compressed vs uncompressed. The ear is more sensitive to compression techniques than it is to samples-per-second A-to-D conversion.


The double blind tests I was speaking of were between lossy DD/DTS/DD+ and lossless (DTS-MA, PCM, TrueHD).

So do you actually watch these concerts for their entertainment value or just analyze technical disk aspects? :confused:


Both;) I enjoy both realms of these discs......the performance for entertainment value and the tech aspects from an artistic appreciation standpoint......not all mixes/recordings/transfers are created equal and you learn to appreciate the good from the bad. you are obviously threatened by my posts for some strange reason (you are on AVS forum what do you expect????:confused::rolleyes:) so maybe its time to put me on your ignore list.



My favorite of the bunch was the MOE Live @ Filmore concert, I spent a couple of hour with a big sh**-eating grin on my face with that one, like I posted earlier. AQ was superb for SD-DVD in DTS.


Agreed. Watched this one a while back and I enjoyed the performance (first time hearing MOE) and the AQ was awesome:)

I tried broadening my horizons so to speak and tried watching Kanye West Late Orchestration the other night......long story short, I made it ~25 minutes before leaving the room (the GF made it ~35 minutes before shutting it off). Whatever talent this guy may or may not have was so overshadowed by his arrogance that I was completely turned off!

I could not agree more:) The double blind tests I was speaking of were between lossy DD/DTS/DD+ and lossless (DTS-MA, PCM, TrueHD).Please post a link so that I may educate myself.

That is really the truth, on my 102" screen the difference between BR @1080p/24 and upscaled SD-DVD is quite appreciable, whereas on my 46" Aquos it's marginal at best.

+1 This is the argument that gets all the BD fanboys on my case, when there is just no need for that. I have an OPPO 983 and a 50" Kuro. The OPPO upscales and de-interlaces great, and at a seating distance of 10 ft. I can't justify the extra expense of the Blue Ray discs. As you state on your Aquos, "it's marginal at best". If I were sitting at 6 or 7 ft., or had a big screen like you guys, BD would definitely be a must for superior picture quality.

John

I rate it along with Beck's performance. Two thumbs down.

Jeff Beck's performance is great. I know you don't like that he moved away from Rock 30 years ago, and into fusion, but a lot of people love his work!

John

Jeff Beck's performance is great.

This has been one of the more pleasant surprises I've had for a while. Outstanding overall production, great show, rock solid band, good sound and lots of extras. A+

This has been one of the more pleasant surprises I've had for a while. Outstanding overall production, great show, rock solid band, good sound and lots of extras. A+

Couldn't agree more. Jeff is my favorite guitarist. Prior to this all I had was an outstanding bootleg from Japan in the late 90's, with Jennifer Batten on guitar playing all the keyboard parts. Stereo sound was excellent, most likely recorded off the soundboard, but the picture quality was about a C. Very happy to see the Ronnie Scotts release!

John

Please post a link so that I may educate myself.

Shoot FilmMixer a PM and he can hook you up with all the info you need;)

This has been one of the more pleasant surprises I've had for a while. Outstanding overall production, great show, rock solid band, good sound and lots of extras. A+Agreed. Watching jeff's technique is astounding, Clapton is a bonus, AQ and PQ are great, bass player is cute and fun to watch, Colaiuta is a monster on the kit.

My only disappointment is seeing Jimmy Page in the audience and thinking he would join Beck on stage, and he doesn't :(

Agreed. Watching jeff's technique is astounding, Clapton is a bonus, AQ and PQ are great, bass player is cute and fun to watch, Colaiuta is a monster on the kit.

My only disappointment is seeing Jimmy Page in the audience and thinking he would join Beck on stage, and he doesn't :( There's a great little story here about Vinnie when he was playing with Zappa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Colaiuta

larry

Clapton, Winwood and Beck's performances on DVD are just plain awful. So bad, I could only watch em for about 10 minutes, then eject the DVD and put em at the bottom of the pile.

Now, the 'new' Woodstock 40th anniversary (BR) is a masterpiece.

Agreed. Watching jeff's technique is astounding, Clapton is a bonus, AQ and PQ are great, bass player is cute and fun to watch, Colaiuta is a monster on the kit.

My only disappointment is seeing Jimmy Page in the audience and thinking he would join Beck on stage, and he doesn't :(

Yup...very good disc all around and all I have is the SD-DVD.

Page and Beck will probably all join up in Clapton's next concert tour (that's the rumor I'm spreading :D ). Since Eric seems to be getting together with all of his old mates lately. And didn't I hear that Beck and Clapton had done or will be doing a few dates in England??

Not sure I'd want to see a Page/Beck/Clapton show. A lot of egos there...plus the solos would mean at most 3 songs for the entire show!:p
And who would be in the band supporting them??

-t

Yup...very good disc all around and all I have is the SD-DVD.

Page and Beck will probably all join up in Clapton's next concert tour (that's the rumor I'm spreading :D ). Since Eric seems to be getting together with all of his old mates lately. And didn't I hear that Beck and Clapton had done or will be doing a few dates in England??

Not sure I'd want to see a Page/Beck/Clapton show. A lot of egos there...plus the solos would mean at most 3 songs for the entire show!:p
And who would be in the band supporting them??

-t

Whoever they are, you won't see much of them on camera. Just like the Stones DVD's, all you see are 4 egos with all the 'other' members left out of the action. :mad:

How much footage of Darryl Jones do you see on a Stones DVD? Maybe a couple of minutes total? This is the same way Clapton and Winwood operate. No, I don't want to see 2 hours of these two with everyone else holding the bag.
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I'm done with them.

If you want to watch Winwood, get the Traffic DVD.

Clapton, Winwood and Beck's performances on DVD are just plain awful. So bad, I could only watch em for about 10 minutes, then eject the DVD and put em at the bottom of the pile.What specifically about the Jeff Beck performance did you find awful?

His masterful playing technique? His tone? His execution of the notes?

Mirriam Webster defines awful as "extremely disagreeable or objectionable" - unless I have a different concert than you do, I don't anything in the show disagreeable or objectionable.

Simply put, I like the musicians (aside from Richard Wright, of course) in RW's band more than in DG's.

Roger puts his band through a ruthless rehearsal schedule before they go on tour. He critiques every note :). Why do you think Pink Floyd was so perfect from DSOTM through The Final Cut? :)

I rate it along with Beck's performance. Two thumbs down.

I think you're alone in that assessment. I found it to be an excellent performance. It'll get lots of play in my system.

FWIW I think the Jeff Beck blu-ray is great. Top 5 on my list.

Also I rewatched The Police blu-ray. Better the second time...I like this one a lot. Just make sure bass levels are not boosted (like you might do for other discs).

What specifically about the Jeff Beck performance did you find awful?

His masterful playing technique? His tone? His execution of the notes?

Mirriam Webster defines awful as "extremely disagreeable or objectionable" - unless I have a different concert than you do, I don't anything in the show disagreeable or objectionable.

I guess just his style.

1st you got to have a tune.
Then you gotta have a beat.
Then you gotta have something to say.

He's not talking to me? :confused:

If you have good upsampling on your DVD player or HDTV, you may not see such a big difference on Blu-Ray, but if you have a recevier capble of decoding up to 7.1 channels of uncompressed audio, you will HEAR a difference


For me, the coolest thing with his Blu-Ray product is that you can peruse the menus while the music is playing - scope out the TimeLine, read the lyrics or the studio notes, all without skipping a beat.

That's the thing - on the newer Blu-Ray releases, it's not the same mix as the DVD version, as it contains up to 4 times the audio sampling resolution and up to 2 more channels (6.1 and 7.1).


-gil

Thanks for the explaination about the audio differences on BlueRay and DVD. Very informative.
I have an Onkyo 705, Sammy 40-inch HDTV, Denon 1940ci "I'll play anything you throw at me and upconvert it" DVD player:D and a Pioneer 460 DVD recorder I just got all hooked up proper for best audio and PQ. So the gear can do anything including THX processing and what have you.
That said though, I only have a 5.0 speaker set up due to space and budget restrictions. However, with any luck I will be getting a subwoofer in about 2 months. So that will open up a whole other world to me.
I can't go 7.1 because of space and I don't feel like investing in it. (If I had a special theater room I would though).
So I can see the audio on BlueRay being potentially better than DVD given the room for data. However, I don't use my DVD player to listen to audio alone, I have a dedicated CD player for that with fiber optic connection.

what is intresting to me is that there are some things that just can not be improved by BlueRay sound. For instance, last night I watched an old concert on DVD - YesSongs. Recorded in 1974. (Flat screens and Surrouns sound weren't even an idea back then! While the PQ was far better on my Denon player then my Panasonic (it was still 1974 PQ though) the sound was horrible, down right terrible, not because of my gear or speakers, but because of the time in history when it was recorded. Now compare that with even Rush's Show of Hands DVD or Pink Floyd and the perspective changes.
My thing I can't stand about BlueRay, besides the prices, but those will eventually come down, is the PQ. I just don't think it is as good as DVD to my eyes. So I am willing to be satisfied with 5.1 max soundscape on DVDs for the time being.:)

I guess just his style.

1st you got to have a tune.
Then you gotta have a beat.
Then you gotta have something to say.

He's not talking to me? :confused:
I agree with you 100%. But you can't begin to discuss this with the rythemless head banger types..It's way above their heads...

I agree with you 100%. But you can't begin to discuss this with the rythemless head banger types..It's way above their heads...what the heck are you talking about? The previous complaints about the Jeff Beck show was about how jazzy he's become.

And if you're going to slam a group of people, shouldn't you at least spell 'rhythmless' right?

what the heck are you talking about? The previous complaints about the Jeff Beck show was about how jazzy he's become.

And if you're going to slam a group of people, shouldn't you at least spell 'rhythmless' right?

+1

LMAO This thread is a good reminder why I totally lost interest in playing Rock and Roll years ago, it wasn't the music, it was the fan base. (now in all fairness I shouldn't lump everyone into that category, but you gotta admit, a fair number of people resemble that comment :) )

John

Clapton, Winwood and Beck's performances on DVD are just plain awful. So bad, I could only watch em for about 10 minutes, then eject the DVD and put em at the bottom of the pile.

Now, the 'new' Woodstock 40th anniversary (BR) is a masterpiece.

I watched this BR last night and I was amazed at the quality of the audio and video that they were able to remaster from a 40 year old tapes. I wish there was more music and less commentary but still very enjoyable.

I watched this BR last night and I was amazed at the quality of the audio and video that they were able to remaster from a 40 year old tapes. I wish there was more music and less commentary but still very enjoyable.

This is my 1st Bluray disk purchase (TrueHD sound) and the audio is quality is nothing short of stunning. Woodstock never sounded so good.

My last version was VHS. I gave it to the brother. :rolleyes:

I agree with you 100%. But you can't begin to discuss this with the rythemless head banger types..It's way above their heads...

I kinda like head banger music. :)

Quick reviews of my more recent DVDs...

Gallagher at Cork - AQ and PQ is pretty good for such a old recording, even though Rory may be past his prime I found his performance engrossing.

Clapton/Windwood - AQ and PQ are very good, performances are proffesional but maybe not as inspired as it could be, still there are some highlights.

Jeff Beck - AQ and PQ are top knotch with inspired performances throughout.

Maiden: Flight 666 - No comment since some people here think headbangers are not worth reading reviews from. LOL.

Scheduled to be released this week that I have preorded...

Dickey Betts & Great Southern: Rockpalast-30 Years of Southern Rock
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Steve Marriott: All or Nothing - Live from London
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Lee Rocker: Rock This World
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Southside Johnny & the Ashbury Jukes: Live at Alabama Hall Munich
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Maiden: Flight 666 - No comment since some people here think headbangers are not worth reading reviews from. LOL.



Screw em! :D

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Last I heard about DB, was the drinking was taking it's toll?

Here's some great footage of Dickey Betts.

*Warning* DO NOT BUY THIS TITLE ON DVD - they wrecked it. :confused:


VHS only
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Why the complete uninterrupted show was never released on DVD is beyond me?

Quick reviews of my more recent DVDs...

Gallagher at Cork - AQ and PQ is pretty good for such a old recording, even though Rory may be past his prime I found his performance engrossing.

Clapton/Windwood - AQ and PQ are very good, performances are proffesional but maybe not as inspired as it could be, still there are some highlights.

Jeff Beck - AQ and PQ are top knotch with inspired performances throughout.

Maiden: Flight 666 - No comment since some people here think headbangers are not worth reading reviews from. LOL.

Scheduled to be released this week that I have preorded...

Dickey Betts & Great Southern: Rockpalast-30 Years of Southern Rock




I would love to hear your opinion of the Maiden 666 AQ......I have it, but have not watched it yet.

I get "wrong region" when I try to play the DVD on my Denon 3930. The CD in the package sounds great.

What to do?

Thanks,:confused:

I would love to hear your opinion of the Maiden 666 AQ......I have it, but have not watched it yet.

I have only watched the 2nd disk which is the all concert disk.

PQ is very good, but suffers from bad editing and direction. As in hyper scene changes and way too many stupid fan shots, how many images do we need of a black shirt clad headbanger giving the DIO sign. When will these concert directors/producers learn! Still there are some nice inventive shots, cool angles of guitar riffs, along with some backstage shots that save this from being a total disaster for all but short attention span fans.

AQ is good, the vocals seemed somewhat buried in the mix. Guitar solos sometimes lack the big punch you want when listening to heavy metal. The biggest complaint (and it is a big one) is the crowd noise is way too much in front of the mix. And sometimes it actually deters from the playing of the band, unforgivable IMO. After awhile you will wish you had a knob that could turn off all the crowd noise. The one song one city idea is interesting, but may actually of taken away the build up you get with a single concert DVD.

Still it may be one of the best Maiden concert DVDs, at least the ones I have watched. I would put Iron Maiden: Live After Death ahead of this DVD, even though the AQ/PQ is not near the quality on 666. Mostly because "Live after Death" shows the band at their peak.

Screw em! :D

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Last I heard about DB, was the drinking was taking it's toll?

I have no idea this is preorded actually it has been delayed until June 30th.

Here are both concerts:

Tracklisting:
Disc 1:
"Grungahalle Essen, Germany, March 4th 1978"
01 Rockpalast-Caption
02 Run Gypsy Run
03 You Can Have Her/Leavin' Me Again
04 You Can Have Her
05 Back On The Road
06 In Memory Of Elisabeth Reed
07 Good Time Feelin'
08 Dealin' With The Devil
09 Jessica
10 High Falls (incl. Drum Solo)
11 Ramblin' Man

Disc 2:
"Museumsplatz Bonn, Germany, July 19th 2008"
01 Statesboro Blues
02 Nothing You Can Do
03 Blue Sky
04 Get Away
05 One Way Out
06 Jessica
07 Havin' A Good Time
08 In Memory Of Elisabeth Reed
09 No One To Run With
10 Ramblin' Man

AQ is good, the vocals seemed somewhat buried in the mix. Guitar solos sometimes lack the big punch you want when listening to heavy metal. The biggest complaint (and it is a big one) is the crowd noise is way too much in front of the mix. And sometimes it actually deters from the playing of the band, unforgivable IMO. After awhile you will wish you had a knob that could turn off all the crowd noise. The one song one city idea is interesting, but may actually of taken away the build up you get with a single concert DVD.


Thanks so much for the honest review:) All I have gotten out of poeple who have seen this (biased Maiden heads:p) is "dude it ****in rules!":p Thats great, but I was looking for a more critical AQ review. Thanks for the feedback. Sucks about the crowd noise though......I am with you in not liking that kind of mix:( oh well.

I have only watched the 2nd disk which is the all concert disk.

PQ is very good, but suffers from bad editing and direction. As in hyper scene changes and way too many stupid fan shots, how many images do we need of a black shirt clad headbanger giving the DIO sign. When will these concert directors/producers learn! Still there are some nice inventive shots, cool angles of guitar riffs, along with some backstage shots that save this from being a total disaster for all but short attention span fans.

AQ is good, the vocals seemed somewhat buried in the mix. Guitar solos sometimes lack the big punch you want when listening to heavy metal. The biggest complaint (and it is a big one) is the crowd noise is way too much in front of the mix. And sometimes it actually deters from the playing of the band, unforgivable IMO. After awhile you will wish you had a knob that could turn off all the crowd noise. The one song one city idea is interesting, but may actually of taken away the build up you get with a single concert DVD.

Still it may be one of the best Maiden concert DVDs, at least the ones I have watched. I would put Iron Maiden: Live After Death ahead of this DVD, even though the AQ/PQ is not near the quality on 666. Mostly because "Live after Death" shows the band at their peak.

Very good review.
As a big Maiden fan, I'm happy to get a 16X9 concert with a great setlist, but it definately feels more like documentary footage of a concert than an actual concert DVD. Considering that's exactly what it is, I shouldn't be surprised. Those that don't really enjoy the rapid fire camera cuts (most of us) won't be thrilled by the editing, but it didn't ruin the disc for me. I'd rank it at the top for me, above Live After Death (due to the terrible PQ).

Still it may be one of the best Maiden concert DVDs, at least the ones I have watched. I would put Iron Maiden: Live After Death ahead of this DVD, even though the AQ/PQ is not near the quality on 666. Mostly because "Live after Death" shows the band at their peak.Where would you put it in terms of Rock in Rio? I think that disc sounds great, but Harris did the video editing and it suffers from the same complaints you have on PQ of 666.

Where would you put it in terms of Rock in Rio? I think that disc sounds great, but Harris did the video editing and it suffers from the same complaints you have on PQ of 666.

Its been a while since I watched the "Rock in Rio" I didn't own that disk and rented. From what I can remember I would put 666 above RnR. If you're on the fence about buying 666 you could always rent first. I glad I bought 666, it comes packaged really nice plus it includes the Concert disk and the Movie disk a good deal IMO. I'll watch it many times even with the video editing.

I guess just his style.

1st you got to have a tune.
Then you gotta have a beat.
Then you gotta have something to say.

He's not talking to me? :confused:


Don't you ever get tired of human beats, and that rhythm thing?

One thing I love about these fusion Greats, is they aren't afraid to slow down things to the speed of a whale song, or up to a humming bird.

Don't you ever get tired of human beats, and that rhythm thing?

One thing I love about these fusion Greats, is they aren't afraid to slow down things to the speed of a whale song, or up to a humming bird.

+1

-t

Don't you ever get tired of human beats, and that rhythm thing?

One thing I love about these fusion Greats, is they aren't afraid to slow down things to the speed of a whale song, or up to a humming bird.

I wanna tell you about Texas Radio and the Big Beat
Comes out of the Virginia swamps
Cool and slow with a back beat
Narrow and hard to master
Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance
Others, mean and ruthful of the Western dream :)

Paul Simon and Friends (TrueHD)

Awesome sounding concert. Very well mixed with a lot of air around the instruments. Very clean, clear and present type sound. Good dynamics.......low end support was tight and punchy and even showed some good power (for a concert) at times the best of which was during "Diamonds On the Soles Of Her Shoes"......awesome!

Ayone who likes Paul Simon must check out this show as it is a great watch:) Some great performances by some of the guest artists performing his music (and Paul himself).

PQ was very good as well, but I am not a videophile and I am very forgiving of concert PQ since AQ is what is most important with these IMO, but the PQ looked very good to my eyes none the less.

This was the full package so to speak IMO and any PS fan needs to check this out!

Anyone have this title?
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Paul Simon and Friends (TrueHD)

Awesome sounding concert.....

Ayone who likes Paul Simon must check out this show as it is a great watch:) Some great performances by some of the guest artists performing his music (and Paul himself).

Who are the "friends" on this one?

I wanna tell you about Texas Radio and the Big Beat
Comes out of the Virginia swamps
Cool and slow with a back beat
Narrow and hard to master
Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance
Others, mean and ruthful of the Western dream :)

What does that have to do with Jeff Beck?

T

What does that have to do with Jeff Beck?

T

:)

Who are the "friends" on this one?

Here is a cut and paste from the thread in the bluray forum......:)


Product Description
In May of 2007 the Library of Congress gathered an unprecedented group of musicians together in Washington, D.C., to honor Paul Simon as the first recipient of the Gershwin Prize for Popular Song. Alison Krauss, Stevie Wonder, James Taylor, Lyle Lovett, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Marc Anthony, Art Garfunkel and a host of others joined Paul onstage in a multicultural tribute to the music of a great American artist and a great American art form.

This gala event, called the greatest night of popular music ever presented in our nation s capital, was beautifully filmed in high definition and captured with stunning Dolby TrueHD for a trulysuperior concert experience.

Performances:

Introduction Bob Costas

50 Ways to Leave Your Lover Lyle Lovett

The Boxer Alison Krauss, Shawn Colvin and Jerry Douglas

Mother and Child Reunion Stephen Marley

Under African Skies Miriam Makeba and Paul Simon

*Clip from Paul Simon Graceland: The African Concert (Zimbabwe, 1987)

Homeless Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Mrs. Robinson Paul Simon

*Clip from Yankee Stadium Tribute To Joe DiMaggio (April 25, 1999)

Slip Slidin Away James Taylor and The Dixie Hummingbirds

Sunday Morning With The SensationaL Nightingales (Poem) Billy Collins and The Dixie Hummingbirds

That Was Your Mother Buckwheat Zydeco and Lyle Lovett

Homeward Bound Paul Simon and George Harrison

*Clip from Saturday Night Live (November 20, 1976)

Still Crazy After All These Years James Taylor

El Condor Pasa Marc anthony

Late In the evenIng Marc Anthony

Gone At Last Yolanda Adams and Jessy Dixon

Something So Right Dianne Reeves

The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin Groovy) The Muppets (Grover and Elmo)

Graceland Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas

Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes Paul Simon and Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Bridge Over Troubled Water Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel

Father and Daughter Paul Simon

Me and Julio Down By The Schoolyard Paul Simon and Stevie Wonder

Loves Me Like A Rock Paul Simon and Stevie Wonder with The Dixie Hummingbirds

Sounds of Silence Philip Glass



Well worth a rent if you like his music:)

Here is a cut and paste from the thread in the bluray forum......:)


Product Description
In May of 2007 the Library of Congress gathered an unprecedented group of musicians together in Washington, D.C., to honor Paul Simon as the first recipient of the Gershwin Prize for Popular Song. Alison Krauss, Stevie Wonder, James Taylor, Lyle Lovett, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Marc Anthony, Art Garfunkel and a host of others joined Paul onstage in a multicultural tribute to the music of a great American artist and a great American art form.

This gala event, called the greatest night of popular music ever presented in our nation s capital, was beautifully filmed in high definition and captured with stunning Dolby TrueHD for a trulysuperior concert experience.

Performances:

Introduction Bob Costas

50 Ways to Leave Your Lover Lyle Lovett

The Boxer Alison Krauss, Shawn Colvin and Jerry Douglas

Mother and Child Reunion Stephen Marley

Under African Skies Miriam Makeba and Paul Simon

*Clip from Paul Simon Graceland: The African Concert (Zimbabwe, 1987)

Homeless Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Mrs. Robinson Paul Simon

*Clip from Yankee Stadium Tribute To Joe DiMaggio (April 25, 1999)

Slip Slidin Away James Taylor and The Dixie Hummingbirds

Sunday Morning With The SensationaL Nightingales (Poem) Billy Collins and The Dixie Hummingbirds

That Was Your Mother Buckwheat Zydeco and Lyle Lovett

Homeward Bound Paul Simon and George Harrison

*Clip from Saturday Night Live (November 20, 1976)

Still Crazy After All These Years James Taylor

El Condor Pasa Marc anthony

Late In the evenIng Marc Anthony

Gone At Last Yolanda Adams and Jessy Dixon

Something So Right Dianne Reeves

The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin Groovy) The Muppets (Grover and Elmo)

Graceland Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas

Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes Paul Simon and Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Bridge Over Troubled Water Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel

Father and Daughter Paul Simon

Me and Julio Down By The Schoolyard Paul Simon and Stevie Wonder

Loves Me Like A Rock Paul Simon and Stevie Wonder with The Dixie Hummingbirds

Sounds of Silence Philip Glass



Well worth a rent if you like his music:)

this title " greatest night of popular music ever presented in our nation s capital" does not show up in Blu-ray. com nor does it show up on Amazon.

Are you sure the title is correct?

this title " greatest night of popular music ever presented in our nation s capital" does not show up in Blu-ray. com nor does it show up on Amazon.

Are you sure the title is correct?

Sorry, the title of the disc is "Paul Simon and Friends: The Library of Congress Gershwin Prize for Popular Song"........whewww......that was a long one.:D

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Paul+Simon+and+friends+blu+ray

SorryNo need to apologize, you put the title in your post. I cut and pasted into amazon and there it was. I guess that's pretty complicated and it's much easier to ask :D

Sorry, the title of the disc is "Paul Simon and Friends: The Library of Congress Gershwin Prize for Popular Song"........whewww......that was a long one.:D

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Paul+Simon+and+friends+blu+ray

I seen some of it on PBS. It reminded me of the PBS Do-Wop reunion of those relics from the 50's. No Thanx............ :)

Next will be a Sha-na-na reunion tour.

Sorry, the title of the disc is "Paul Simon and Friends: The Library of Congress Gershwin Prize for Popular Song"........whewww......that was a long one.:D

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Paul+Simon+and+friends+blu+ray

Thank you very much :)

The Beach Boys at Knebworth, UK 1980.This concert shows both of the now dead Carl and Dennis Wilson performing as well as Bruce Johnston. OAR is 1.85:1 in color at night.


Roger Waters Live Berlin, Germany without Pink Floyd 1989 OAR 4:3.

I lock in no stretch wide screen view, by using a Sony brand Progressive Scan DVD Player .http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k08t1221bbuq/gdsmile.gif

Good choice of concert dvd. I have that too. But using another brand of dvd player.

I seen some of it on PBS. It reminded me of the PBS Do-Wop reunion of those relics from the 50's. No Thanx............ :)

Next will be a Sha-na-na reunion tour.


lol:p It wont be for everyone thats for sure. I usualy dont like these "tribute" type concerts/music dvds/cds (Deadicated anyone????:() but this one worked for me for whatever reason. Also, some of the tunes were not messed with at all such as "Homeless Ladysmith Black Mambazo" which was just stunning IMO!:eek: At any point, I completely understand your feelings. I would love an all Paul Simon concert (with the full band) in this kind of PQ/AQ:(

lol:p It wont be for everyone thats for sure. I usualy dont like these "tribute" type concerts/music dvds/cds (Deadicated anyone????:() but this one worked for me for whatever reason. Also, some of the tunes were not messed with at all such as "Homeless Ladysmith Black Mambazo" which was just stunning IMO!:eek: At any point, I completely understand your feelings. I would love an all Paul Simon concert (with the full band) in this kind of PQ/AQ:(

Seeing how we are talking about those rock stars of the past, I highly reccomend Woodstock 40th anniversary on BR. :) The 1st disk is TrueHD.