What is "switched digital video" ? Why don't they poll their demographic and get rid of the unwatched channels? I know it's not that easy.. but it sounds that the increased bandwidth is going to be a problem already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_digital_video

Your right, it's not as simple as polling and removing channels, they already know what people watch, but you can't just cancel a channel even if only 10% of your subscribers watch it. But with SDV you can still offer that channel, but only when it is requested, the rest of the time you have lots of room for other stuff, like VOD or Cable Modems.

Most channels will be on most of the time, according to the article, only channels that are rarely used will be switched, say History International. If I wanted to watch a show on that channel then when I select it, my box would send a signal to the head end and the head end would make that channel available to my whole node. This works well, because most homes watch the same channels at the same time. For example, prime time shows on network TV, or MTV around 3pm.

It's expensive for the cable company to implement this, but it allows for future things that are discussed in the rest of the article, like 100MBps Cable modems, HD VOD, and hundreds of HD channels.

Bandwidth should not be a concern. When Buckeye upgraded their system, I saw them bring Fiber to a node about 50 feet from my parent's house, and there is a small fiber run right up to my apartment (for 6 units). They are just preparing for the future.

Good to hear that bandwidth for HD should not be such an issue for Buckeye. Hopefully SDV will allow plenty of room for MORE HD channels. We just replaced our Hi-def CRT RPTV over the weekend with a new Sony 60" XBR2 and I've turned into a real couch potato. I'm really turning into an HD snob, I'll watch things I don't even care about just because it's in HD.

As a side note, I found that my old set looked better running out of the Moto 3416 using component. I haven't tried HDMI with the new set yet, waiting on a cable from BJC. I've been wondering if other Buckeye subscribers have found differences between component and HDMI using the 3416.

I've heard that digital switching will not work will TV's without set top boxes. If thats true they basically cannot "switch" the lower 125 channels a normal tv pulls in, can they? Would this then only be restricted to the higher level channels? thanks.

I've heard that digital switching will not work will TV's without set top boxes. If thats true they basically cannot "switch" the lower 125 channels a normal tv pulls in, can they? Would this then only be restricted to the higher level channels? thanks.


That is correct.

Those channels with be digital soon anyway, but I imagine that most of the boxes used to help analog TV's tune those will not be capable of switching. Remember also that really there are only about 70 channels on those lower 125. Even though those channels will have to be sent all the time, that is not a concern to Buckeye, because most of those channels are watched more often then the ones they want to switch.

The other 200+ channels that come over all the time but can only be used with a set top box are still eligible for switching, all of the premium channels (several of which are HD), will be GREAT candidates for switching and all the channels between 100 and 300 will also be perfect for switching. Those channels are only used by a small portion of the subscriber base, and even then only at small times. Not like a network channel or CNN that people watch all day...

Is there anywhere that I can print a list of OTA channels that are (or should be) available? My in-laws live in Swanton, and we hooked up an OTA to their new HD TV last night. It picked up 60 channels (combination of analog and digital), but I wanted to print off a list of what's what, as the whole concept of digital subchannels threw my father in law for a loop.

Thanks!

Got two questions about Buckeye:

1] Are the broadcast basic & extended basic channels simulcasted in analog and digital? I've yet to check out what they look like in analog, but through the HD-DVR they are the best looking SD channels I've ever seen.

2] Is it common to be charged a $2.00 "franchise fee" when ordering PPV? I just got my most recent bill and I was charged an extra 2 bucks for the already $40 SummerSlam PPV a few weeks back. I never had that with 5+ years of ordering WWE PPVs with Time Warner in Genoa.

I seem to be not getting a HD feed for NFL Network. Is anyone else having this issue. Actually it hasn't been going on for at least two days. I still have the SD channel at ch.193 and all it's programming but NFL NET HD doesn't have any programming.(Channel still shows up on guide as well as it's scheduled programming but it's not being displayed for me; black screen only.



BTW ... I just picked up what looks to be a brand new, never been used Motorola DCH3416 HD DVR from Buckeye. Does anybody have any info on these? Pretty nice unit.

I seem to be not getting a HD feed for NFL Network. Is anyone else having this issue. Actually it hasn't been going on for at least two days. I still have the SD channel at ch.193 and all it's programming but NFL NET HD doesn't have any programming.(Channel still shows up on guide as well as it's scheduled programming but it's not being displayed for me; black screen only.





Same here. No NFLHD. Gotta call Buckeye.

FYI...
The UPLINK Facility for NFL Ntwk had a fire.
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Is there any reason Buckeye doesn't offer the analog channels (2-79) as qam for someone with a TV that does qam but has no cable card slot?

My Vizio can get the HD locals over cable using qam and I'd like to see the basic tier work the same way.

I've been watching more BCSN and over analog I get wavey bands. That may be due to interference from channel 13. I'm not sure since my other channels look great. I used to have poor quality on 2-13 (CNN, ESPN, etc) but a new coax, amp, and splitter fixed that.

I'd like to not bother with a cable box when Buckeye turns off the analog signal. My guess is that Buckeye won't be cutting off analog cable in Feb'09 but they will at some point.

Well, I'm pleased to announce that Waterville's TWC HD offerings has been expanded to include Discovery HD Theater, TNT-HD, and Universal HD. We are finally up to 17 HD stations. That makes my decision of whether to move to Directv or stay with TWC more difficult. I suppose I'll wait until next week to see how the MPEG-4 broadcasts from D*'s new satellite are reviewed by members on AVS. I definitely don't want to switch to D* for more HD channels with lower PQ.

645 and 643 says "Not Authrized for ordering information, press info" I have the basic HD and HD plus. Is there something else I need to have?

Call BCS & have them "hit" your box. This should reset your box to what you are authorized to have.
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Toledo over-the-air HDTV channels, network affiliations , digital, (analog) channel numbers, subchannels:

WTOL CBS 17 (11)
-1 CBS HD

WTVG ABC 19 (13)
-1 ABC HD
-2 ABC News Now
-3 WTVG Weather Now

WNWO NBC 49 (24)
-1 NBC HD
-2 The Tube music videos
-3 NBC Weather Plus

WGTE PBS 29 (30)
-1 PBS Digital/HD
-2 PBS Family
-3 PBS Create

WUPW FOX 46 (36)
-1 FOX HD



Hello,

I am new here and am located in Ada Ohio. I have recently bought a Phillips DVDR-3573H HD ATSC/NTSC Recorder. I currently have my antenna pointed towards the Toledo/bowling green area and have been getting all of the stations quoted above.

My question is: Recently over the past few days the 24, 30, and 36 related digital stations seem to not be coming in at all or are displaying artifacts on the screen.
I am assuming this is due to the weather? Does anybody having similar experiences? Is this due to there low power output currently for digital stations?

I have checked the related analog stations and they do come in but have some fuzziness but are watchable so, I know it is not that the stations are off the air.

If I am posting this in the wrong area, please lead me to the correct one.

Thanks
BJ_Linderman

Ok these new sports channels are fun and all. But what about Animal Planet HD and Science Channel in HD that have been launched? I want to watch Survivorman in HD

Ok these new sports channels are fun and all. But what about Animal Planet HD and Science Channel in HD that have been launched? I want to watch Survivorman in HD

Yea -- I totally agree, I like sports too, but a good number of the last group of HD stations added were all sports! I want some more of the normal channels I watch like History HD, TLC HD, Discovery HD (not just theater), etc... I sent an email to buckeye requesting these channels and they passed on to their marketing dept, I encourage you to do the same to get counted.

The two new HD channels for 9/17 are up: FSN Ohio HD and National Geographic HD. Of course neither of them are showing any true HD material, but at least it's working, right?

I have the Motorola DCT6412 III HD DVR box from Buckeye. Currently, I have it connected to a plasma display via component cables. Does anyone know if I can connect it to a second HDTV in another room via the HDMI connection and have it output to both TV's at the same time? I can handle the remote issue with an IR remote extender.

I have the Motorola DCT6412 III HD DVR box from Buckeye. Currently, I have it connected to a plasma display via component cables. Does anyone know if I can connect it to a second HDTV in another room via the HDMI connection and have it output to both TV's at the same time? I can handle the remote issue with an IR remote extender.

I am not sure with component and HDMI, but I can tell you I do this with my Slingbox with S-Video and Component, and it works fine. So it is worth trying. The thing to remember is that if you change the channel it will obviously change both outputs...

I am not sure with component and HDMI, but I can tell you I do this with my Slingbox with S-Video and Component, and it works fine. So it is worth trying. The thing to remember is that if you change the channel it will obviously change both outputs...Thanks for the reply Trabbic. Which Slingbox unit are you using? The research I did on the Slingbox appears that it is a device for accessing your TV programming via the Internet. Can you use it for the purpose I asked in my original question? In other words, could I run the output from Buckeye's box into the Slingbox then feed more than one TV with various cables? I called Buckeye and asked if the Motorola box would feed the signal to more than one TV at a time. Their answer was no - but I've received incorrect info from them in the past. The second TV I want to connect is a 26" LCD HDTV. It's for a bedroom so I can't go any larger than 26". If I could find one that accepts a CableCard, this would be a moot point. But I haven't seen any HDTV's that small that accept CableCard. I know there are several options to achieve what I want but I prefer to use only a coax or HDMI cable to the 26" TV. I REALLY need to keep the cables down to one. WAF you know.

The Moto 3416 outputs both HDMI and component at the same time. I believe the 6412 does as well.

Thanks. I did some online searching and found some info that claims that all outputs are active at the same time.

It's been a while since I posted here. Glad to see the forum is still fairly active. A couple quesitons. A friend says he picked up a new remote for his Moto DVR and it won't allow him to program the 30 second skip. Anyone experience this?
Also, back in February or so Buckeye was testing the Pace DVR which included the external SATA dirve hook up. Anything come of that? My wife is forever running ours to full capacity and an external HD would be great.
Thanks.

An external SATA drive? That would be cool. Anyone else has one of these Pace DVR's?

A question for those with Buckeye HD......

Why on earth does Buckeye place their XXX networks at 560, 561 & 562? Every time you go to 611 in the guide you also get to see that "Big Sausage Pizza 09" is on "Fresh" at the moment. Luckily I don't have any kids, otherwise I'd be more irritated by this.

I actually had one person who called and asked the same thing when I worked at Buckeye. Nobody I could find knew why they were listed there.

At least Big Sausage Pizza is vague enough for a kid to not realize its adult, but some of the titles aren't so ambiguous.

A question for those with Buckeye HD......

Why on earth does Buckeye place their XXX networks at 560, 561 & 562? Every time you go to 611 in the guide you also get to see that "Big Sausage Pizza 09" is on "Fresh" at the moment. Luckily I don't have any kids, otherwise I'd be more irritated by this.Is the program guide not customizable? Can these stations be blocked from the guide?

Is the program guide not customizable? Can these stations be blocked from the guide?

It always bothered me also, I found in the STB Setup menu under Locks, there is an Adult lock you can turn on. Basically it just replaces the title with "adult program". I am doing this from memory so if its not in the Locks menu look around a bit its there.

The listings is supplied by TV Guide, BCS has nothing really to do with it-at least that I know of. No one probably ever thought of the guide lists when contracting out the channel assignments.

Rumor has it that BCS will have TBS HD for the MLB playoffs.
CHECK THAT... TBS HD is on channel 617 - available NOW!

Rumor has it that BCS will have TBS HD for the MLB playoffs.
CHECK THAT... TBS HD is on channel 617 - available NOW!


Yup..and it looks great! We also have National Geo HD up and running on Buckeye!

I was really bummed out thinking I'd have to watch the Tribe in LD. The addition of TBS HD is a nice surprise. I wonder if TBS HD is a permanent addition or just around for the playoffs?

TBS HD looks really nice. It better be here to stay. That would be a huge tease.
Does anybody know of any more HD channels to be added soon? I like that Buckeye isn't sitting on their thumbs about adding new channels.:)

Anyone seen these "two red" dots during FOX prime time??? Last night during "Kitchen Nighmears" these two red dots poped up on the screen. I also saw them on Monday during Prison Break. I called FOX TOLEDO and they say they didn't see them BUT, I have them on my DVR.... THe really wierd part is that they "fade" away so it has to be some sort of computer controlling them...

They added TBS-HD on Waterville's TWC as well. Woo hoo.

Anyone seen these "two red" dots during FOX prime time??? Last night during "Kitchen Nighmears" these two red dots poped up on the screen. I also saw them on Monday during Prison Break. I called FOX TOLEDO and they say they didn't see them BUT, I have them on my DVR.... THe really wierd part is that they "fade" away so it has to be some sort of computer controlling them...
Yeah I saw them too... Kindva forgot about them quickly since I only saw them the once... I am guessing a tease into some Halloween special of some sort. No pun here but I thought I also saw a silouette of a fox's face. The mystery continues......

Kudos to Buckeye for managing the bitrate with the new HD channels. I am hardcore and real picky about PQ. TBSHD is absolutely fantastic in the PQ department.

A face of a Fox huh, I thought it looked like a Devil or some sort of robotish devil.... BUT I am glad to hear someone else saw the red dots. It has been very odd as they seem to show up without warning...

A face of a Fox huh, I thought it looked like a Devil or some sort of robotish devil.... BUT I am glad to hear someone else saw the red dots. It has been very odd as they seem to show up without warning...

They only show up when th UFOs are in the area...lol

The glowing red eyes were back tonight... during Kitchen Nightmares, they appeared near the FOX corner bug ID. It's looking more like a robot, TERMINATOR style. Rumors say something about a new FOX show (movie?) coming.

An external SATA drive? That would be cool. Anyone else has one of these Pace DVR's?

I know this is a little old but...

I have a Pace DVR with a 300G external SATA drive hooked to it. Works like a charm. Tons of HD hours barely puts a dent in my storage. From what I understand, Buckeye has the port enabled on all the Pace boxes. You have to power down the Pace box, hook up the external drive, power up the external then power up the Pace box.

Spek

So are the Pace DVR's available for the general public yet? I'm ready to throw my Moto box out of the window. I'm on my third one, and now it's starting to act up.

So are the Pace DVR's available for the general public yet? I'm ready to throw my Moto box out of the window. I'm on my third one, and now it's starting to act up.

I got my box early in the year, probably March/April. I would check with Buckeye first. I am not sure how they manage stock between Moronola and Pace.

spek

I got my box early in the year, probably March/April. I would check with Buckeye first. I am not sure how they manage stock between Moronola and Pace.

spek

What model box do you have?

Does it use the same i-guide software as the Moto boxes?

What model box do you have?

Does it use the same i-guide software as the Moto boxes?

It looks like "TDC775D" This is what appears to be the model number on the top left front of the box. It has a 160G HD and appears to have the same TVGuide application as the Moto boxes.

Spek

Ok, updated the first post as well as I can see, based on posts since my last request. Please take a look and let me know if it's correct, thanks.

This is from Buckeye Cables current Guide. The main difference with what you posted is ESPN2 HD is here as are the Fox Sports networks which you show as both "Coming Soon":

308 HBO HD
309 Cinemax HD
327 Starz HD
347 Showtime HD
605 WT05 Toledo's CW HD •
611 WTOL (CBS) 11 HD •
613 WTVG (ABC) 13 HD •
614 WTVG 13 TV Plus •
615 WTVG 13 Weather • not HD
616 TNT-HD
617 TBS-HD
624 WNWO (NBC) 24 HD •
626 WNWO (NBC) 24 Weather Plus • not HD
627 NFL Network HD **
629 NBA TV-HD *
630 WGTE (PBS) 30 HD •
634 WGTE Create (PBS) • not HD
636 WUPW (FOX) 36 HD •
643 FOX Sports Net Detroit HD
644 FOX Sports Net Ohio HD
645 Big Ten Network HD
HDTV Plus Pak
649 National Geographic HD
650 Discovery HD Theater
651 ESPN HD
652 ESPN2 HD
653 SportsTime Ohio HD
654 MOJO
656 Universal HD
657 HDNet
658 HDNet Movies
659 HGTV-HD
660 Food Network HD

It looks like "TDC775D" This is what appears to be the model number on the top left front of the box. It has a 160G HD and appears to have the same TVGuide application as the Moto boxes.

Spek

According to Buckeye they stopped carrying this due to an issue with the firmware that causes the box to reboot itself at the same time every day. He mentioned that the one they do have in the office reboots at 11:00PM every day. Is this happening with yours?
He did say they do carry a new model Moto that has and eSATA port. The model number of that box is DCH3416. You can see it here:http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/motorolas-dch3416-m-card-enabled-hd-dvr/
According to Jay in Buckeye custoemr service the eSATA port is activated and you can go up to 500Gig. I think I'll pick up a couple this weekend.
:p

I double checked with Buckeye which is standard operating procedure when they tell you something that appears to be too good to be true and it isn't true. The eSATA port is not active on the Moto box. Now or ever. I should have figured.

I know this is a little old but...

I have a Pace DVR with a 300G external SATA drive hooked to it. Works like a charm. Tons of HD hours barely puts a dent in my storage. From what I understand, Buckeye has the port enabled on all the Pace boxes. You have to power down the Pace box, hook up the external drive, power up the external then power up the Pace box.

Spek

Spek,
Which model eSATA drive are you using? Also, are you have the issue with the box spontaneously rebooting like some have reported? If not, which firmware is your box on. Thanks.
FW2

I have the HD Basic and Plus Pak through Buckeye and I am having a problem that I thought you guys might be able to answer(I've never had any luck with Buckeye's technical dept.) I have the regular Motorola HD box(not DVR). While watching an HD channel(Fox yesterday) the screen will randomly change to static. I can still hear the audio through my surround receiver but the screen is all static. Changing to another HD channel also shows this static. If I change to a regular station(11, 3, etc.) I will get the picture back and then switching back to Fox(or other HD channel) will bring the picture back. This happened about 5 times yesteday. It has happened on multiple channels but it does appear to happen more on the local channels. It may only happen on local channels but I can't say for sure. Are any of you having this problem? Any idea on what the problem is? Is it the box, the Buckeye signal? Any info. would be greatly appreciated.

Were you watching Toledo or Detroit Fox? Fox is 720P. What happens when you view ABC? (they are 720P too) I assume NBC and CBS (1080I) don't do this correct?


Steve

I have the HD Basic and Plus Pak through Buckeye and I am having a problem that I thought you guys might be able to answer(I've never had any luck with Buckeye's technical dept.) I have the regular Motorola HD box(not DVR). While watching an HD channel(Fox yesterday) the screen will randomly change to static. I can still hear the audio through my surround receiver but the screen is all static. Changing to another HD channel also shows this static. If I change to a regular station(11, 3, etc.) I will get the picture back and then switching back to Fox(or other HD channel) will bring the picture back. This happened about 5 times yesteday. It has happened on multiple channels but it does appear to happen more on the local channels. It may only happen on local channels but I can't say for sure. Are any of you having this problem? Any idea on what the problem is? Is it the box, the Buckeye signal? Any info. would be greatly appreciated.
one more thing... I have a friend using buckeye HD. Anytime FOX went to local spots, they lost signal!

I know it happened during the football game so it wasn't just when they did a local spot. It was Toledo FOX but like I said I'm not completely positive as to what channels it is happening on. It appears to be only locals but I haven't paid enough attention to know if it is only certain locals. Once it happens again I will mark down what channel and what was on(commercial, broadcast, etc.).

You mentioned 720p and 1080i, how would this affect it? Does the progressive scan cause problems like this?

I'm fairly certain the Motorola HD boxes only output the HD channels in whatever resolution is set. So if its set to 1080i, Fox and ABC will be scaled up by the box to 1080i. So the original resolution of the resolution of the network shouldn't be having that kind of effect.

Picked up a new Pace DVR from Buckeye this afternoon. I'll report back once I've had some time to use it.

A few days ago I went to the Buckeye office on Navarre to exchange my Pace box that I got in late May for the new Moto DCH3416. I've had a 2nd 3416 on a smaller tv in a different room for a few weeks without any problem. When I hooked up the new 3416 to my 61' Samsung hlt6187 [with HDMI] the HD looked the same but the SD looked HORRIBLE. I understand that SD is SD but I'm talking youtube quality. On the old Pace box a good SD broadcast [WWE, South Park] was DVD-like. I'm thinking of trying to get my old pace box back, but the lady that helped me at Buckeye called it the "Demon Box" because to all the lockups and resets it caused. Any ideas?

A few days ago I went to the Buckeye office on Navarre to exchange my Pace box that I got in late May for the new Moto DCH3416. I've had a 2nd 3416 on a smaller tv in a different room for a few weeks without any problem. When I hooked up the new 3416 to my 61' Samsung hlt6187 [with HDMI] the HD looked the same but the SD looked HORRIBLE. I understand that SD is SD but I'm talking youtube quality. On the old Pace box a good SD broadcast [WWE, South Park] was DVD-like. I'm thinking of trying to get my old pace box back, but the lady that helped me at Buckeye called it the "Demon Box" because to all the lockups and resets it caused. Any ideas?While I can't speak on the Pace box I can speak on the Moto DVR you have as I have the same one. My SD is not that bad. Maybe you need to access the output menu on the DVR. I set my output to 480p for SD and 1080i for HD because my set is a 1080p LCD. I believe my box was set at 480i by default for SD and 720p for HD. It was brand new, right from the box when I picked it up a month or so ago.

To access this menu, you need to press the menu button on the DVR right as you turn it off.

While I can't speak on the Pace box I can speak on the Moto DVR you have as I have the same one. My SD is not that bad. Maybe you need to access the output menu on the DVR. I set my output to 480p for SD and 1080i for HD because my set is a 1080p LCD. I believe my box was set at 480i by default for SD and 720p for HD. It was brand new, right from the box when I picked it up a month or so ago.

To access this menu, you need to press the menu button on the DVR right as you turn it off.

I haven't tried that yet, though I'll give it a shot. I wanted to keep everything in one resolution though because when you go from 1080i to 480p
the TV stutters for a second to switch resolutions. Also, with 1080i/p I can activate a "zero" overscan mode, which is not possible with anything less. But maybe I'll just have to deal with it.

FYI - HD Net will be broadcasting their "HDNet Test Pattern" program this Saturday morning at 6:30AM

http://www.hd.net/program_search_results.html?keyword=%22test%20pattern%22&whattosearch=both&ws=1

This is from Buckeye Cables current Guide.Ok, first post updated. Please reference it for new readers, thanks.

Well I thought I would give those of you trying to help me with my HD static problem an update. It's been around 2 weeks and I have only had the HD channel changing to static a few times. The odd thing is that it has not happened exclusively on local channels as some of you figured was the case. I wasn't positive so I gave it some time so I could monitor it more closely. 2 Sunday's ago it happened on FOX while watching a football game but it happened this week on ESPN HD and NFL Network HD. Any thoughts?

For a refresher this is what happens: I am watching an HD station(doesn't seem to matter which one at this point), randomly the screen will change to static but my audio is still coming through like normal. Changing to another HD channel shows the same static. If I turn to a standard analog station(3, 7, 8, etc.) I will get my picture back. Then changing back to the HD channel will bring back the HD feed.

I will probably contact Buckeye about this and see what they say and hopefully talk to someone that can provide some kind of help(I've never had any luck with this in the past). It's not a constant thing so I'm not that worried about it but I still would like it to be fixed.

Well I thought I would give those of you trying to help me with my HD static problem an update. It's been around 2 weeks and I have only had the HD channel changing to static a few times. The odd thing is that it has not happened exclusively on local channels as some of you figured was the case. I wasn't positive so I gave it some time so I could monitor it more closely. 2 Sunday's ago it happened on FOX while watching a football game but it happened this week on ESPN HD and NFL Network HD. Any thoughts?

For a refresher this is what happens: I am watching an HD station(doesn't seem to matter which one at this point), randomly the screen will change to static but my audio is still coming through like normal. Changing to another HD channel shows the same static. If I turn to a standard analog station(3, 7, 8, etc.) I will get my picture back. Then changing back to the HD channel will bring back the HD feed.

I will probably contact Buckeye about this and see what they say and hopefully talk to someone that can provide some kind of help(I've never had any luck with this in the past). It's not a constant thing so I'm not that worried about it but I still would like it to be fixed.

I am sorry if you answered these questions before, but what cable-box are you using? How are you connected to your display (HDMI or Component)? What display do you have? And does this happen for HD recordings as well (assuming you have a DVR)?

Has anyone heard of anything... With DirectTV and such releasing so many HD channels in the last month or so, I was wondering if anyone had any scoop on Buckeye adding some new HD's. The last ones were ok, but all sports -- I want some regular stations added too (Discovery/History, etc...).

The last ones were ok, but all sports -- I want some regular stations added too (Discovery/History, etc...).

i agree

Has anyone heard of anything... With DirectTV and such releasing so many HD channels in the last month or so, I was wondering if anyone had any scoop on Buckeye adding some new HD's. The last ones were ok, but all sports -- I want some regular stations added too (Discovery/History, etc...).

Look for CNN HD - by years end.

This is a reception/recording problem. I looked, but could not find other information on other threads about this issue, and because I thought it might be a buckeye specific question, so I've posted here.

I've run into an interesting situation when exporting HDTV signals from the buckeye favorite Motorola 6412. I have been using the firewire port on the back of the box to export live and recorded events to my PC for backup purposes. Recorded HD content eats up a lot of space on the box, so I export my recordings and sometimes live events to my computer to future use. However, I have just noticed this weekend that WTOL-DT (611) and NFLN-HD (627) do not allow for exportation through the firewire port. I have and continue to be able to export ABC (613) FOX (636), and NBC (624), and the all of the standard definition channels as well.


The interesting thing is that it doesn't matter whether I attempt to export live feeds on these two channels are if I attempt to export recorded feed I get the same non-results. Is it possible that buckeye is blocking such content from exportation?

Anyone have any thoughts?

What other channels should we be looking for? I'm gettin' bored of the non sports HD channels.

The interesting thing is that it doesn't matter whether I attempt to export live feeds on these two channels are if I attempt to export recorded feed I get the same non-results. Is it possible that buckeye is blocking such content from exportation?

Anyone have any thoughts?Could be 5C from the local stations/networks.

I just learned about the 5c encryption and I checked the diagnostics screen on these two channels to see if they were in fact encrypted, but they are not. Now I am even more confused than I was before. I was expecting to find that these two channels were in fact encrypted, but it appears that they are not.

I guess it is going to take some more experimenting before I figure this one out.

I guess it is going to take some more experimenting before I figure this one out.Contact Buckeye. It may take some doing before you get someone who understands your issue, but escalate the issue (to supervisors) and be patient.

This is a reception/recording problem. I looked, but could not find other information on other threads about this issue, and because I thought it might be a buckeye specific question, so I've posted here.

I've run into an interesting situation when exporting HDTV signals from the buckeye favorite Motorola 6412. I have been using the firewire port on the back of the box to export live and recorded events to my PC for backup purposes. Recorded HD content eats up a lot of space on the box, so I export my recordings and sometimes live events to my computer to future use. However, I have just noticed this weekend that WTOL-DT (611) and NFLN-HD (627) do not allow for exportation through the firewire port. I have and continue to be able to export ABC (613) FOX (636), and NBC (624), and the all of the standard definition channels as well.


The interesting thing is that it doesn't matter whether I attempt to export live feeds on these two channels are if I attempt to export recorded feed I get the same non-results. Is it possible that buckeye is blocking such content from exportation?

Anyone have any thoughts?


611 is only recordable using a DVHS machine. It has RC and CCI flags set to prevent a noncompliant device from recording it. This is not a Buckeye issue but a WTOl issue. I hae emailed their eng with no luck. It is not 5C encrpt but another seperate flag issue. The RC flag for 611 is 0x01. It should be 0X00 like it was until about 3 months ago. 624, 613, 636 are 0x00.

Nothing you can do except get a DVHS machine if you want to archive HD.

In my monthly mail to buckeye requesting new/more HD channels, I got this response of some HD changes coming in December.

We will be moving ESPN HD, Sportstime Ohio HD, NFL HD and NBA HD to our HD Basic Package in December. Currently, some of those channels are included in our HD Plus Package and you pay extra for them.

They of course went on to say they are working diligently to get more HD channels, but no details on anything upcoming.

Personally, I think I will give it till February or so and if nothing new in the pipeline, I am going to consider DirectTV or Dish... I like buckeye, but I can't stand watching SD channels anymore and really want more HD options.

Personally, I think I will give it till February or so and if nothing new in the pipeline, I am going to consider DirectTV or Dish... I like buckeye, but I can't stand watching SD channels anymore and really want more HD options.

Have you actually seen the HD PQ on DirecTV or Dish? I am not affiliated with Buckeye in any way, shape or form....but the HD broadcast quality of Buckeye is possibly the best I have ever seen anywhere. DirectTV HD is just plain nasty.

Go to a local Best Buy and take a gander at the HD channels on DirectTV. On ESPNHD you get to watch artifacts dance around the screen...all over the ESPN logo and the ticker. The grass is swimming with Mpeg artifacts due to comression applied by DirecTV. Nasty...just plain nasty.

If you have a small screen and don't care all that much about picture quality then a SAT service may be for you.

Tom

In my monthly mail to buckeye requesting new/more HD channels, I got this response of some HD changes coming in December.



They of course went on to say they are working diligently to get more HD channels, but no details on anything upcoming.

Personally, I think I will give it till February or so and if nothing new in the pipeline, I am going to consider DirectTV or Dish... I like buckeye, but I can't stand watching SD channels anymore and really want more HD options.Do you currently subscribe to Buckeye's "premium" HD package? If not, you are missing a substantial amount of HD programming. There is truly something for everyone every day and night in that group of channels. Combine that with the major network HD channels and you've got quite a bit of HD programming to choose from.
As one who has been there, done that, with both of the satellite services, I'll take Buckeye thank you. But, everyone is different. That's why Baskin Robbins has so many flavors of ice cream to select from.

Yea, I currently have the "premium" package, and I agree I think the PQ of buckeye is great, yet I find myself missing some old shows I used to watch on standard def (granted I could still watch them there... hahaha). I know buckeye is working hard to bring more content, I just hope to hear some more news in the next few months - every month when I pay my bill I am reminded how much I want more content. It would be really cool if I could just have HD channels and only a few SD channels for half my current bill since most of the channels I get in the "regular" packages never even get looked at.

Yea, I currently have the "premium" package, and I agree I think the PQ of buckeye is great, yet I find myself missing some old shows I used to watch on standard def (granted I could still watch them there... hahaha). I know buckeye is working hard to bring more content, I just hope to hear some more news in the next few months - every month when I pay my bill I am reminded how much I want more content. It would be really cool if I could just have HD channels and only a few SD channels for half my current bill since most of the channels I get in the "regular" packages never even get looked at.Sooner or later, a la carte programming will be here - but at what price? I know what you mean - there are so many junk channels included - but, last I knew, it was no different with the satellite guys.

Sooner or later, a la carte programming will be here - but at what price? I know what you mean - there are so many junk channels included - but, last I knew, it was no different with the satellite guys.

Yea, I agree with that - A La Carte sounds good, but I've heard the bad side of that too...

Have you actually seen the HD PQ on DirecTV or Dish? I am not affiliated with Buckeye in any way, shape or form....but the HD broadcast quality of Buckeye is possibly the best I have ever seen anywhere. DirectTV HD is just plain nasty.

Go to a local Best Buy and take a gander at the HD channels on DirectTV. On ESPNHD you get to watch artifacts dance around the screen...all over the ESPN logo and the ticker. The grass is swimming with Mpeg artifacts due to comression applied by DirecTV. Nasty...just plain nasty.

If you have a small screen and don't care all that much about picture quality then a SAT service may be for you.

Tom

"Go to a local Best Buy"... thats where you went wrong. Any retail chain will not take the time to adjust the displays to get the best picture. They leave them at factory settings, and that means 100% sharpness and 100% brightness/contrast. Not to mention any picture enhancement technology the TV has included is usually set to on by default. Compression is hardly the case. This is what makes all those artifacts jump around.

My father in law has DirectTV-HD and every channel looks great on his plasma. A friend of mine has the Buckeye HD pack and this also looks great on his DLP. I guess my point is, it does not matter who your provider is, your going to get a great picture as long as you have the TV and have it set up the way it looks best to you. I myself am sticking it out with the most basic package from Buckeye and watching the local HD through the QAM tuner on my TV or with the OTA antenna.

I just noticed 619 - HD weather channel and 620 CNNHD are now active. I knew about CNN coming but I don't remember 619 being around. Hopefully more are coming soon too! Keep'em coming Buckeye!

"Go to a local Best Buy"... thats where you went wrong. Any retail chain will not take the time to adjust the displays to get the best picture. They leave them at factory settings, and that means 100% sharpness and 100% brightness/contrast. Not to mention any picture enhancement technology the TV has included is usually set to on by default. Compression is hardly the case. This is what makes all those artifacts jump around.

My father in law has DirectTV-HD and every channel looks great on his plasma. A friend of mine has the Buckeye HD pack and this also looks great on his DLP. I guess my point is, it does not matter who your provider is, your going to get a great picture as long as you have the TV and have it set up the way it looks best to you. I myself am sticking it out with the most basic package from Buckeye and watching the local HD through the QAM tuner on my TV or with the OTA antenna.

Yea, I've known many people happy with Direct-TV... as long as I know Buckeye is actively bringing in channels, I will stick around.

DirectTV PQ is horrid. On a 50" it may be tolerable...but the compression artifacts are so nasty as to ruin the picture on any screen of significant size.

I understand some folks think its fine...they ignore the artifacting. I have sat in people's houses and watched as the grass on a football field pulsed with DirectTV artifacting while the owner proclaimed it a wonderful picture. Please....

I just noticed 619 - HD weather channel and 620 CNNHD are now active. I knew about CNN coming but I don't remember 619 being around. Hopefully more are coming soon too! Keep'em coming Buckeye!

Fantastic!

I just noticed 619 - HD weather channel and 620 CNNHD are now active. I knew about CNN coming but I don't remember 619 being around. Hopefully more are coming soon too! Keep'em coming Buckeye!

Thank you. First post updated.

-1 CBS HD

WTVG ABC 19 (13)
-1 ABC HD
-2 ABC TV Plus (SD)
-3 WTVG Weather Now (SD)

WNWO NBC 49 (24)
-1 NBC HD
-2 RTN Retro TV (SD)
-3 NBC Weather Plus (SD)

WGTE PBS 29 (30)
-1 PBS Digital
-2 PBS Family (SD)
-3 PBS Create (SD)

WUPW FOX 46 (36)
-1 FOX HD

Do you think there will be any more channels added to the above?

Jim

new HD channels coming:

FOX Business HD
Premieres Dec. 27
The latest national business news, international business news and financial news.

Outdoor Channel HD
Premieres Dec. 27
Outdoor Channel is focused on the outdoors, offering programming that includes hunting, fishing, Western lifestyle, off-road motorsports and adventure. Now in HD!

new HD channels coming:

FOX Business HD
Premieres Dec. 27
The latest national business news, international business news and financial news.

Outdoor Channel HD
Premieres Dec. 27
Outdoor Channel is focused on the outdoors, offering programming that includes hunting, fishing, Western lifestyle, off-road motorsports and adventure. Now in HD!This is just one of the many reasons I subscribe to the AVS Forums. I would never have known about these new HD channels otherwise. One would think that Buckeye would make such announcements a priority in their monthly newsletter e-mails. Mostly what I see in those pertains to WWE pay per views and other such items that I could care less about. Thanks for posting the info folks!

This is just one of the many reasons I subscribe to the AVS Forums. I would never have known about these new HD channels otherwise. One would think that Buckeye would make such announcements a priority in their monthly newsletter e-mails. Mostly what I see in those pertains to WWE pay per views and other such items that I could care less about. Thanks for posting the info folks!

Same here. Thanks!

First Post Updated:

(618 WGN-HD Coming Dec. 27)

(621 FOX Business HD Coming Dec. 27)

(Outdoor Channel HD Coming Dec. 27)

Thanks for the updates folks!!! Not too excited about the CNN and TWC HD channels but Outdoor channel and WGN sound pretty good.


I have a question guys. Does anyone else notice when watching TNT HD or TBS HD that there are flashes of video noise or sparkling colors? I don't notice this on any other channels. I even thought I saw it on ESPN HD when they show the NBA highlights from TNT HD . It's very annoying when trying to watch sports(NBA).

Does anyone else notice this or is it me?

For the record I don't notice this at all on any other channels , Xbox 360(HDMI) or my HD A2(HDMI). Thanks.

WTOL CBS 17 (11)
-1 CBS HD

WTVG ABC 19 (13)
-1 ABC HD
-2 ABC TV Plus (SD)
-3 WTVG Weather Now (SD)

WNWO NBC 49 (24)
-1 NBC HD
-2 RTN Retro TV (SD)
-3 NBC Weather Plus (SD)

WGTE PBS 29 (30)
-1 PBS Digital
-2 PBS Family (SD)
-3 PBS Create (SD)

WUPW FOX 46 (36)
-1 FOX HD


Do you think there will be any more channels added to the above?

Jim
Are there any other TV stations in Toledo that haven't gone digital yet? They would be candidates, but there are only 7 OTA networks nationally that do HD, so if more digital stations show up in Toledo, they would be SD only.

You might be able to pick up the Detroit stations, which would add the two Toledo doesn't have; The CW & MNTV. Also, the Ann Arbor Ion station will probably offer HD next year, that would make 8 OTA networks doing HD.

I would never have known about these new HD channels otherwise. One would think that Buckeye would make such announcements a priority in their monthly newsletter e-mails. M

With some slight inside knowledge, I am thinking Buckeye is just trying to get new HD channels on the air as soon as the contracts are signed. Making sure things are up & running before putting the word out. The just started some newspaper ads for CNN & TWC HD.
But yes... the forum keeps us HD nuts well informed.

Hey ended up working my first HD remote...think the pictures look good OTA, you should see them in the truck! -Should probably clarify this... I also do freelance sports field productions... I have used my remote for the tv before-haha

Videditor

According to a "Buckeye Cablesystem Channel Change Announcement" in The Blade on 11/27 (page 5A), in addition to the already reported new channels of CNN HD, Weather HD, WGN HD, Outdoor HD and Fox Business HD, several channels are moving effective 12/27:

ESPN HD (651) moving to channel 640
ESPN2 HD (652) moving to channel 641
SportsTime Ohio HD (653) moving to channel 646
NFL Network HD (627) moving to channel 647
NBATV HD (629) moving to channel 648

According to a "Buckeye Cablesystem Channel Change Announcement" in The Blade on 11/27 (page 5A), in addition to the already reported new channels of CNN HD, Weather HD, WGN HD, Outdoor HD and Fox Business HD, several channels are moving effective 12/27:

ESPN HD (651) moving to channel 640
ESPN2 HD (652) moving to channel 641
SportsTime Ohio HD (653) moving to channel 646
NFL Network HD (627) moving to channel 647
NBATV HD (629) moving to channel 648No wonder I missed it!

Anyone else notice WTOL playing stupid infomercials instead of their best lineup of the week? WTH?

For some time now, I've had an intermittent problem with HD channels dropping out or doing the "digital pixellation" dance so badly that they drop out. The channels affected are 649 and higher. I have a Panasonic plasma HDTV with a CableCard from Buckeye. Buckeye's solution is to send a "re-boot" signal to the CableCard. Beyond that, they want to schedule a service call. Well, I have little faith in the service call producing any results. A year ago, when the Buckeye tech came out to install the CableCard (for a $100 fee thank you), he had never done it before and had no idea what he was doing. He left with it not working. After he left, I got on the phone with a level two tech and together we got it up and running. Anyway, does anyone have a clue what might be going on here? It sounds to me like some kind of line interference because it doesn't happen all the time but does happen with increasing frequency. I have three other HDTV's in the house receiving their signal from Buckeye set top boxes and none of them experience this problem.

For some time now, I've had an intermittent problem with HD channels dropping out or doing the "digital pixellation" dance so badly that they drop out. The channels affected are 649 and higher. I have a Panasonic plasma HDTV with a CableCard from Buckeye. Buckeye's solution is to send a "re-boot" signal to the CableCard. Beyond that, they want to schedule a service call. Well, I have little faith in the service call producing any results. A year ago, when the Buckeye tech came out to install the CableCard (for a $100 fee thank you), he had never done it before and had no idea what he was doing. He left with it not working. After he left, I got on the phone with a level two tech and together we got it up and running. Anyway, does anyone have a clue what might be going on here? It sounds to me like some kind of line interference because it doesn't happen all the time but does happen with increasing frequency. I have three other HDTV's in the house receiving their signal from Buckeye set top boxes and none of them experience this problem.

Hmmmm...I think I have started to notice the same issue.

This sounds very similar an an issue that existed a few years back. Pixel bursts and drop outs on the higher HD channels. The problem was an amp some where in the system and Buckeye had to replace it.

I had the same response from the customer service folks...they sent a tech out....and he then explained that they knew what the problem was...the customer service reps were simply not informed and that they would fix it soon. It was fixed within 24 hours.

Perhaps this is the same thing. Log complaints with Buckeye and perhaps they can track it down.

Hmmmm...I think I have started to notice the same issue.

This sounds very similar an an issue that existed a few years back. Pixel bursts and drop outs on the higher HD channels. The problem was an amp some where in the system and Buckeye had to replace it.

I had the same response from the customer service folks...they sent a tech out....and he then explained that they knew what the problem was...the customer service reps were simply not informed and that they would fix it soon. It was fixed within 24 hours.

Perhaps this is the same thing. Log complaints with Buckeye and perhaps they can track it down.Thanks very much Star56. I find it is always more helpful to be able to give Buckeye a place to begin looking for the problem. I'm quite confident that having them send a tech out would be a waste of time for them and me. Thank you again!

Hey Guys,
As it stands right now, look for new HD channels on BCS. WGN (ch 618), Fox Business (ch 621), Outdoor Channel (ch 629). Not sure how far out, thinking the first of Jan.

Videditor

Hey Guys,
As it stands right now, look for new HD channels on BCS. WGN (ch 618), Fox Business (ch 621), Outdoor Channel (ch 629). Not sure how far out, thinking the first of Jan.

Videditor

Thanks for the heads up! As long as they manage the bits effectively and avoid the heavy compression used on the Sat networks, I welcome more channels.

Hey Guys,
As it stands right now, look for new HD channels on BCS. WGN (ch 618), Fox Business (ch 621), Outdoor Channel (ch 629). Not sure how far out, thinking the first of Jan.

Videditor

Those are in the first post, and are supposed to be available 12/27.

Those are in the first post, and are supposed to be available 12/27.
Yeah... Just wanted to pass on the channel assignments that just got final approval.

Yeah... Just wanted to pass on the channel assignments that just got final approval.Thanks, will the Outdoor Channel be on 629? Where will they move NBA TV HD to? It's on 629 now, if the info I have is correct.

For some time now, I've had an intermittent problem with HD channels dropping out or doing the "digital pixellation" dance so badly that they drop out. The channels affected are 649 and higher. I have a Panasonic plasma HDTV with a CableCard from Buckeye. Buckeye's solution is to send a "re-boot" signal to the CableCard. Beyond that, they want to schedule a service call. Well, I have little faith in the service call producing any results. A year ago, when the Buckeye tech came out to install the CableCard (for a $100 fee thank you), he had never done it before and had no idea what he was doing. He left with it not working. After he left, I got on the phone with a level two tech and together we got it up and running. Anyway, does anyone have a clue what might be going on here? It sounds to me like some kind of line interference because it doesn't happen all the time but does happen with increasing frequency. I have three other HDTV's in the house receiving their signal from Buckeye set top boxes and none of them experience this problem.UPDATE: Buckeye was out last Saturday, checked ALL cabling inside and out with their portable signal meter or whatever the box was. The tech proclaimed everything in perfect working order, blamed it on the TV and left. Set still in warranty (barely) by Panasonic. They sent out Household Centralized Service who said it would be a simple software update. It wasn't. They received and installed a new tuner board from Panasonic along with even more software updates. Problem continues. Panasonic (and Household Centralized Service) claim this is all they can do - problem lies with cablesystem. Cablsystem claims problem lies with Panasonic.
I tend to believe Panasonic and Household. Lucky for me, I purchased Best Buy service plan. Panasonic warranty ended 12-19-07. Now in the hands of Best Buy. New tech - Premier Electronics out of Mansfield has been assigned to case under Best Buy service plan. Stay tuned!

Thanks, will the Outdoor Channel be on 629? Where will they move NBA TV HD to? It's on 629 now, if the info I have is correct.

Looks like ESPN to 640, ESPN2 to 641, STO to 646, NFL to 647, NBA to 648 (BASIC HD moves anyway)

Hey Guys,
As it stands right now, look for new HD channels on BCS. WGN (ch 618), Fox Business (ch 621), Outdoor Channel (ch 629). Not sure how far out, thinking the first of Jan.

Videditor

The new channels are up!

I only looked at FBN for a few minutes on my way out the door this morning but they are all now listed in the guide.

Periodically my HD disappears and I get a message that momentarily pops up that says "Signal not available". I got several during the New England gameon CBS Saturday night. Is this a Buckeye problem? Does anyone else get this?

Thanks

Jim

Periodically my HD disappears and I get a message that momentarily pops up that says "Signal not available". I got several during the New England game on CBS Saturday night. Is this a Buckeye problem? Does anyone else get this?

Thanks

Jim

Jim,

This is not a Buckeye issue. I have never seen this message on any HD programming over the last few years and I watched every second of the Patriots game Sat night (NFL Network).

Tom

Hi all

Hoping for some help. I live in Adrian Michigan and have directv. I expect DTV to offer HD Toledo locals in the next year or so but, would like to get them in the meantime. This means an antenna. Currently I'm using a small indoor antenna and when rigged just right I can get the digital HD channel's 11,13,24,30 and 36. These are the only channels I want. The problem with my set-up now is #1 I have to have the antenna in a place that isn't great...middle of floor. #2 My signal strength isn't fabulous 40-50%.

I'm hoping someone in my area (I'm 35 mi from the towers in Toledo) might be able to recommend a new indoor antenna that may work better for me. I do not want to mess with an expensive outdoor antenna for the sake of 12-18 months. Anyone have a suggestion that may help me? Many thanks in advance.

Hi all

Hoping for some help. I live in Adrian Michigan and have directv. I expect DTV to offer HD Toledo locals in the next year or so but, would like to get them in the meantime. This means an antenna. Currently I'm using a small indoor antenna and when rigged just right I can get the digital HD channel's 11,13,24,30 and 36. These are the only channels I want. The problem with my set-up now is #1 I have to have the antenna in a place that isn't great...middle of floor. #2 My signal strength isn't fabulous 40-50%.

I'm hoping someone in my area (I'm 35 mi from the towers in Toledo) might be able to recommend a new indoor antenna that may work better for me. I do not want to mess with an expensive outdoor antenna for the sake of 12-18 months. Anyone have a suggestion that may help me? Many thanks in advance.What Nielsen DMA are you in? Does DISH offer the locals via satellite? The fact that DirecTV didn't offer Toledo locals a few years back was the reason I dumped them and went with DISH. Of course, I've sinced dumped them as well and went back to good old cable after an eleven year hiatus.

Thank-you kindly for your reply. I don't want to turn this into a debate as there is a TV provider for everyone however, my cable provider is Comcast who I have no interest in doing business with. I was with Dish but switched to DTV because I'm a sports lover and Dish gave up the MLB Xtra Innings package which I enjoy and DTV carries it. It is a shame that DTV doesn't have HD locals yet but with a second new satellite going up early this year they will have the means to eventually add them. I guess what I'm saying is DTV is the best choice for me right now despite the HD locals situation. While I wait for them to be added I'm just looking to see if anyone can suggest a indoor antenna solution that may work better then my current set-up described in my previous post. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Anybody know what buckeye is doing with the HD channel changes. I can't believe they would move all of the sports HD stations to the basic package and leave only those few on the basic plus. After they did i dropped the plus part as for 10.95 per month was not worth it to me. Wondering if they are going to add another tier or add more channels to make it more enticing. Any ideas as to channels or what they may be adding.

Looks like ESPN to 640, ESPN2 to 641, STO to 646, NFL to 647, NBA to 648 (BASIC HD moves anyway)

Thanks, and Happy New Year!

Additions made.

Thank-you kindly for your reply. I don't want to turn this into a debate as there is a TV provider for everyone however, my cable provider is Comcast who I have no interest in doing business with. I was with Dish but switched to DTV because I'm a sports lover and Dish gave up the MLB Xtra Innings package which I enjoy and DTV carries it. It is a shame that DTV doesn't have HD locals yet but with a second new satellite going up early this year they will have the means to eventually add them. I guess what I'm saying is DTV is the best choice for me right now despite the HD locals situation. While I wait for them to be added I'm just looking to see if anyone can suggest a indoor antenna solution that may work better then my current set-up described in my previous post. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Try a Zenith Silver Sensor. Mount it as high as possible, in an attic perhaps.

Ben please try
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

It is very helpful.

Steve

Thank-you kindly for your reply. I don't want to turn this into a debate as there is a TV provider for everyone however, my cable provider is Comcast who I have no interest in doing business with. I was with Dish but switched to DTV because I'm a sports lover and Dish gave up the MLB Xtra Innings package which I enjoy and DTV carries it. It is a shame that DTV doesn't have HD locals yet but with a second new satellite going up early this year they will have the means to eventually add them. I guess what I'm saying is DTV is the best choice for me right now despite the HD locals situation. While I wait for them to be added I'm just looking to see if anyone can suggest a indoor antenna solution that may work better then my current set-up described in my previous post. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Ben please try
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

It is very helpful.

Steve


It looked very helpful for outdoor antenna's but could not find anything on indoor ones. Did I miss it?

Try a Zenith Silver Sensor. Mount it as high as possible, in an attic perhaps.

Do you feel the Zenith is preferable to the amplified version offered by Terk?They otherwise appear similar. Thanks.

I can't speak to the effectiveness of the Terk. The SS worked well for me with no amplification, however I was quite a bit closer to the towers than you. I have not had a lot of luck with powered antennas over the years, they never appeared to make that much difference. Remember, with the Terk you'll need to have an power outlet close by.

I'm sure there are others here who have some first hand knowledge of the Terk. They may give you some firsthand info.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.See the topics 'stuck' to the top of the HDTV Reception Forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=25

FYI in case anyone is looking to obtain an HD set top box from Buckeye - they are out of all except for the HD boxes with the built in DVR I was told by the staff at the Southwyck office that they don't expect stock to be replenished until late this month or early next.

FYI in case anyone is looking to obtain an HD set top box from Buckeye - they are out of all except for the HD boxes with the built in DVR I was told by the staff at the Southwyck office that they don't expect stock to be replenished until late this month or early next.

Interesting. What DVR boxes are they handing out now? I am old school and still using the Moto originals (6412).

Interesting. What DVR boxes are they handing out now? I am old school and still using the Moto originals (6412).I don't know as I did not take one. I already have one of their HD DVR boxes (never use the DVR function) and did not want another one that will cost me $5.00/month more than their "regular" HD box. Buckeye already gets quite enough from me each month!

I got a DVR Motorola box DCH-3416 back in September -- I think thats there newest boxes.

I had the 3416 and all the software bugs to go with it.....then I found out they had the Pace TDC775D that can be used with an eSATA drive, so I picked one up. It had some software issues as well so I went back again and traded it for the newer Pace TDC778X.

The 778X supports eSATA drives, I have a 320gb Seagate drive connected at the moment. It also seems to operate much smoother than any of the other DVR's I've had. The 3416 would lock up frequently and drive me batty! It also gives you the option to upconvert 480i to 480p, 1080i or pass it through to the TV. The Pace seems to do a better job scaling 480i than my TV so I let it do the work. You can also choose to scale 720p but I think that's best left as is.

I had the 3416 and all the software bugs to go with it.....then I found out they had the Pace TDC775D that can be used with an eSATA drive, so I picked one up. It had some software issues as well so I went back again and traded it for the newer Pace TDC778X.



Yea, my box occasionally will hang (i.e. press a button and 10 seconds later it will finally do them all), but not too often. Recently its started fast forwarding like on its own while watching recorded content -- you have to hit pause then play again. It's only done it a few times now, but it seems to be starting more often. If it continues I will be looking to swap the box out, maybe I'll request the new pace box. Other than that the box has been pretty good.

Hooked up an antenna this evening and did some comparisons of OTA vs Buckeye. I watched a bit of CSI NY and Ugly Betty. Both programs did look better via antenna. I noticed some macroblocking in the shadows on cable but none OTA. I know it's been posted that Buckeye passes the HD through untouched but there is a noticeable difference, not huge but it's there.

Hooked up an antenna this evening and did some comparisons of OTA vs Buckeye. I watched a bit of CSI NY and Ugly Betty. Both programs did look better via antenna. I noticed some macroblocking in the shadows on cable but none OTA. I know it's been posted that Buckeye passes the HD through untouched but there is a noticeable difference, not huge but it's there.

That's not too surprising. There has to be some amount of compression applied to fit all those channels in the bandwidth allotted. What I want to continue to see is bit management that is superior to Satellite. When Buckeye's HD PQ declines to the level of DirectTV or Dish Network it will be a very sad day!

This is clearly becoming more and more of a challenge with the addition of more channels.

When Buckeye's HD PQ declines to the level of DirectTV or Dish Network it will be a very sad day!

This is clearly becoming more and more of a challenge with the addition of more channels.

When I first subscribed to Buckeye HD a few years ago I compared the two and found PQ to be nearly identical, but they had far fewer channels back then. Now I regret hooking up the antenna last night.

As my wife watched Grey's Anatomy my eyes just locked on to shadows and backgrounds that were macroblocked. Once you notice something like that it you begin to look for it even when you don't want to.

I fear the future is more channels and lower quality. Another factor is screen size vs. viewing distance. Your average consumer buying 46"-50" sets and sitting 12'-15' away may not even notice a problem. The only complaints Buckeye will get are from guys like me who sit 11' away from a 60" set.

Hooked up an antenna this evening and did some comparisons of OTA vs Buckeye. I watched a bit of CSI NY and Ugly Betty. Both programs did look better via antenna. I noticed some macroblocking in the shadows on cable but none OTA. I know it's been posted that Buckeye passes the HD through untouched but there is a noticeable difference, not huge but it's there.

I have a few questions about your test... Did you run the cable through a cable box, DVR, or are you using the direct feed and the same OTA tuner? If it is a cable box, what box is it? Also what tuner are you using? Are you feeding your display with HDMI or component? if HDMI, what cable are you using?

A DVR/cable box can easily introduce those artifacts. For example I can see the difference between a moto 3416 and my pace box. The moto introduces noticeably more artifacts. (The pace is not perfect, but when it is running right I can see no difference between the straight feed and via the cable box.)

I do not doubt what you see, but I have it on VERY good information that Buckeye does no bit rate compression or shaping to their OTA channels. Now, they do shape the bit rate on some bundled channels...

BTW, I have a 60 inch 1080p screen and was sitting 10 feet away (normal viewing distance is 13'), and saw no macroblocking on Grey's last night recorded on my DVR...

I have a few questions about your test... Did you run the cable through a cable box, DVR, or are you using the direct feed and the same OTA tuner? If it is a cable box, what box is it? Also what tuner are you using? Are you feeding your display with HDMI or component? if HDMI, what cable are you using?

The cable feed is through the Pace TDC778X via HDMI (BJC Series 1 (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/index.htm)). This was live TV, not time shifted through the DVR.

The OTA was direct from the antenna to the TV (Sony KDS-R60XBR2, 1080P:)). I matched all the video controls on the antenna input to those already set for HDMI.

I also have a direct cable line to the TV (a home-run, not RF bypass from the box) but I didn't look at that last night.

trabbic -

Could you look at the diagnostic menu on the Pace and tell me what you have for SNR, AGC and bitrate for an OTA channel? Since you noticed no macroblocking I'm beginning to wonder if I have a signal issue.

A DVR/cable box can easily introduce those artifacts.....Very true. The STB alone could be the difference.

trabbic -

Could you look at the diagnostic menu on the Pace and tell me what you have for SNR, AGC and bitrate for an OTA channel? Since you noticed no macroblocking I'm beginning to wonder if I have a signal issue.

Sure, will do... I will try to do it this afternoon...

The cable feed is through the Pace TDC778X via HDMI (BJC Series 1 (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/index.htm)). This was live TV, not time shifted through the DVR.

The OTA was direct from the antenna to the TV (Sony KDS-R60XBR2, 1080P:)). I matched all the video controls on the antenna input to those already set for HDMI.

I also have a direct cable line to the TV (a home-run, not RF bypass from the box) but I didn't look at that last night.

Just fyi, EVERYTHING through the DVR is time shifted, even if you just pressed the "live" button, or changed the channel. It is still sent to the hard drive first, then out. Also from what I read from a previous post, it looks like you have the box doing some scaling, which can introduce artifacts. This is the case with abc, the conversion from 720P to 1080i in the box, then your TV deinterlaces the 1080i content to 1080p. (I may be incorrect here as to what resolutions you are sending directly to your tv).

After some back and fourth I decided to send my TV everything straight through. The pace does have a nice scaler, but this way a progressive signal (720p) does not have to go through scaling the deinterlacing and then interlacing again. It is just scaled by my TV.

Run your test again with the tuner using the cable line directly, and your internal OTA. I am interested to see if there is a difference.

One last thought, this could also be because of some less than perfect connection inside your home (ie. an old splitter). I am not saying that buckeye is not to blame here, but it is possible...

EDIT: Sorry, I thought i posted this on Friday, but when I came in today it is sitting right here... Looks like we may have came to the same conclusion...

Thanks for the insight trabbic!

I only scale 480i.... 720p and 1080i are passed through. That was something I looked at as soon as I noticed there was a difference.

The house is new, so no old splitters and cable to worry about.

I'll look at this again and compare OTA and the direct cable line. That will eliminate the Pace as the culprit. Should be interesting.

I'll look at this again and compare OTA and the direct cable line.

I'm on the East Side and withing 3-7 miles from the four OTA towers out in Oregon. I was using an antenna for OTA before finding out Buckeye is passing those over the cable line. Hooked up to my Vizio 32" I initially thought the OTA was a better picture, but further testing showed the cable qam signal looked identical to my eyes. Now 32" isn't big and Vizio sets have their detractors, but I'm happy.

I did have a 6412 for a few years (Oct 04) hooked up to my 50" Toshiba projection set. That set was bought in 2001 so it wasn't as sharp as a plasma or LCD, so I can't say how much the 6412 would effect the signal.

I dumped my DVR about a year ago after switching to a HD Homerun and SageTV. I like to do what I want with my local recordings and the 6412 I had (well 3 of them over time) gave me too much trouble with firewire to my PC.

UPDATE: Buckeye was out last Saturday, checked ALL cabling inside and out with their portable signal meter or whatever the box was. The tech proclaimed everything in perfect working order, blamed it on the TV and left. Set still in warranty (barely) by Panasonic. They sent out Household Centralized Service who said it would be a simple software update. It wasn't. They received and installed a new tuner board from Panasonic along with even more software updates. Problem continues. Panasonic (and Household Centralized Service) claim this is all they can do - problem lies with cablesystem. Cablsystem claims problem lies with Panasonic.
I tend to believe Panasonic and Household. Lucky for me, I purchased Best Buy service plan. Panasonic warranty ended 12-19-07. Now in the hands of Best Buy. New tech - Premier Electronics out of Mansfield has been assigned to case under Best Buy service plan. Stay tuned!Update #2: Pioneer Electronics out of Mansfield never bothered to show. Best Buy re-assigned case back to Household Centralized Service. They were out today and again replaced the DT card. Problem remains. Actually, after they replaced the DT card last time, a new problem cropped up - in order to turn on the TV, you have to press the power button on the remote, then go behind the set, unplug the power cable then plug it back in - real handy huh? When I spoke with Best Buy's service plan department on 1-11, they promised me a decision regarding replacing the set by today. After the Household Tech left this morning, I called BB service plan folks again to advise that the latest fix did not solve the problem. They again assured me I'd hear back from them by close of business today. I'm not holding my breath. Frankly, I don't know where the problem lies - in the set itself or with Buckeye (as Household insists) but I do know I'm gosh darn tired of the whole situation and fully expect BB to replace the set. Both Buckeye and Household have been out three different times each. Both claim the problem is not theirs - which leaves yours truly stuck in the middle. Both do agree on one thing: CableCard enabled digital TV's are nothing but trouble. I would agree. For those who enjoy continuing sagas, I'll let you know the outcome. :mad:

got the 778x pace dvr, anyone successfully add a esata hard drive? if so please list specfics as far as hard drive/enclosure. I plan on buyin the hd and enclosure to build my own. not sure if there are some issues with certain brands/model/specs.

Thanks

got the 778x pace dvr, anyone successfully add a esata hard drive? if so please list specfics as far as hard drive/enclosure. I plan on buyin the hd and enclosure to build my own. not sure if there are some issues with certain brands/model/specs.

Thanks

I have a Seagate FreeAgent Pro connected to the 778X with no problems so far.

Read the two threads linked below, there have been issues with some eSATA drives.

Pace 775D (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=659367)

Pace 778X (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=903826)

Can't wait to go pick up a Pace...I've never liked the Moto...always had problems with them...first the 6412..now the 3416 (older style).

My available space is pretty tight though...what's the size difference with the pace?? Here's a pic of my entertainment center to give you an idea of my limited space available.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/nimchimpski20/DSCF1113.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/nimchimpski20/DSCF1111.jpg

Are the Pace boxes widely available? I'd love to get rid of my Moto box (I'm on my third or fourth - lost count), as it's starting to act weird again. The ability to add an eSata drive would be icing on the cake...

Are the Pace boxes widely available? I'd love to get rid of my Moto box (I'm on my third or fourth - lost count), as it's starting to act weird again. The ability to add an eSata drive would be icing on the cake...

Seems it's hit or miss as to whether or not they have the Pace in stock at Buckeye. I picked up another 775 this weekend from the Southwyck location and had to immediately exchange it for another as the first they gave me was defective (stabilization issue) and they told me they only had a couple 775's in stock and no 778's. They said if I was interested in the 778 I should keep calling to inquire as to whether or not they got any in. They weren't aware of any planned receipts.

What are the differences between the Pace 775 and the 778??

Looking at Pace's website, they obviously look a little different. Both seem to have dual hd tuners, I think they both have 160gb hdd, and the 775 has both optical in and out the 778 has optical out only, but what other differences are there?? They seem almost identical.

If anyone from Buckeye ever reads this thread I implore you to add USA-HD & SciFi-HD. I am a huge wrestling fan and the thought of watching Raw and ECW in SD when an HD version is available almost makes me want to kill myself. Seriously, it's that bad. OK, not bad enough to get DirecTV, but pretty close. I mean RAW is the #1 show on the #1 basic cable network, right? Buckeye NEEDS to add it. And HD PPV capabilities too.

If anyone from Buckeye ever reads this thread I implore you to add USA-HD & SciFi-HD. I am a huge wrestling fan and the thought of watching Raw and ECW in SD when an HD version is available almost makes me want to kill myself. Seriously, it's that bad. OK, not bad enough to get DirecTV, but pretty close. I mean RAW is the #1 show on the #1 basic cable network, right? Buckeye NEEDS to add it. And HD PPV capabilities too.

I agree completely with the wrestling (and would love to watch BSG on SciFi HD as it airs as opposed to 4 months later on Universal HD), but would add SpikeTV HD to the list. Watching the UFC in HD would be intense. They show the WEC in HD on Vs, and it's absolutely beautiful.

Those would be the next 3 channels I would like to see in HD on Buckeye :)

If anyone from Buckeye ever reads this thread I implore you to add USA-HD & SciFi-HD.

Email Buckeye at ASKUS@CABLESYSTEM.COM
They will take your network requests and add with everyone else's request. They do pull the most popular requests for channel additions.:)

If anyone from Buckeye ever reads this thread I implore you to add USA-HD & SciFi-HD. I am a huge wrestling fan and the thought of watching Raw and ECW in SD when an HD version is available almost makes me want to kill myself. Seriously, it's that bad. OK, not bad enough to get DirecTV, but pretty close. I mean RAW is the #1 show on the #1 basic cable network, right? Buckeye NEEDS to add it. And HD PPV capabilities too.

I know Buckeye is pretty good about adding HD channels when available. Don't forget, it's not entirely up to Buckeye as when broadcasting companies decide to broadcast in HD. I'll check tomorrow if we have any news about adding USA and Sci-Fi HD to our lineup.

What are the differences between the Pace 775 and the 778??

Looking at Pace's website, they obviously look a little different. Both seem to have dual hd tuners, I think they both have 160gb hdd, and the 775 has both optical in and out the 778 has optical out only, but what other differences are there?? They seem almost identical.

The 778 has a cable card secured in the back. A new FCC-mandated system requires cable operators to provide new TV subscribers with set-top boxes that have CableCards as of July 1st, 2007. So how were the customers affected? The truth is there is very little benefit to this switch for consumers. Most people won't even notice if a CableCard has been inserted into their set-top box, because the card itself provides no additional features or functions. What's more, the rule applies only to new set-top boxes.

What are the differences between the Pace 775 and the 778??

Looking at Pace's website, they obviously look a little different. Both seem to have dual hd tuners, I think they both have 160gb hdd, and the 775 has both optical in and out the 778 has optical out only, but what other differences are there?? They seem almost identical.

For me the biggest difference and a downside is the 778X doesn't have component video "pass through". I have the 775 as well and with the 775 I can feed my DVD source through the 775 via the component video cables and run one set of component video cables to the TV. Not sure why they took this away but I'm sorry they did.
Also, I've have two 775's in addition to the 778 and never had any issues with the 775's. I've run into a few critical issues with the 778 such as spontaneously losing my primium channel authorizations more than once plus a couple freezes and spontaneous reboots that's making me wonder if it's an issue with the 778 or did I just get a dud and have to swap it for another. Of course, your mileage may vary. ;)

Update #2: Pioneer Electronics out of Mansfield never bothered to show. Best Buy re-assigned case back to Household Centralized Service. They were out today and again replaced the DT card. Problem remains. Actually, after they replaced the DT card last time, a new problem cropped up - in order to turn on the TV, you have to press the power button on the remote, then go behind the set, unplug the power cable then plug it back in - real handy huh? When I spoke with Best Buy's service plan department on 1-11, they promised me a decision regarding replacing the set by today. After the Household Tech left this morning, I called BB service plan folks again to advise that the latest fix did not solve the problem. They again assured me I'd hear back from them by close of business today. I'm not holding my breath. Frankly, I don't know where the problem lies - in the set itself or with Buckeye (as Household insists) but I do know I'm gosh darn tired of the whole situation and fully expect BB to replace the set. Both Buckeye and Household have been out three different times each. Both claim the problem is not theirs - which leaves yours truly stuck in the middle. Both do agree on one thing: CableCard enabled digital TV's are nothing but trouble. I would agree. For those who enjoy continuing sagas, I'll let you know the outcome. :mad:Final update: it was a long, drawn out, miserable process but I finally prevailed. BB agreed to replace the set under the extended service plan I purchased - which I took advantage of last night. The final twist was the "customer service manager" at the Monroe St. store was determined to give me an entry level, bottom of the line set as a replacement for what was the Lincoln Town Car of Panasonic's plasma line at the time I purchased it back in December, 2006. They were downright nasty about it. So, I wheeled my non-functioning set back out to my van and drove to the Magnolia Home Theater up in Taylor, Michigan. I'm happy to report that not only did they not hassle me but they couldn't have been more professional and courteous. I realize this is not a subject that is of interest to most here but I did promise to let you know the outcome.

What's up with WGN-HD? It is never correct on my Moto HD DVR.. as far as the programming schedule.

And it seems like when I flip to WGN-HD it is always showing frickin' Americas funniest Videos! What gives????

Buckeye is using the guide data for the actual WGN/CW local network in Chicago, not the WGN Superstation that we [and the rest of the country] actually get. If you really want to know whats on the guide data is correct for the analog station. But as you put it you got about a 50% chance of seeing AFHV, or something stupid like that.

Did Buckeye change their encoding or compression methods lately? I seem to be able to fit a lot more HD recordings on my DVR the last week or two. I am NOT complaining about this, just curious...

Does anyone here have an idea if/when we might get Verizon FiOS Internet/TV here in NW Ohio?

don't know about FiOS but I read at engadget that U-Verse is getting closer and closer to us.

coming anytime soon? Any inside knowledge?

Did Buckeye change their encoding or compression methods lately? I seem to be able to fit a lot more HD recordings on my DVR the last week or two. I am NOT complaining about this, just curious...

Compression usually means reduced quality. Most of the extra stuff they've been giving us, I don't even watch. I'd rather have the higher quality.

i don't know when U-Verse is coming, if at all. i just read about it coming to cleveland and columbus over at engadget.com. and i'm going crazy not being able to watch wwe in hd on usa, scifi and ppv. buckeye NEEDS to add these ASAP!!!

If I remember an email I read today, quite quickly...BCS is in contract talks with Sci-Fi HD already.
VidEditor

If I remember an email I read today, quite quickly...BCS is in contract talks with Sci-Fi HD already.
VidEditor

Excellent news! I hope they get the contract ironed out before BSG S4 in April.

It may sound assinine, but I have been seriously considering switching to DirecTV mainly to get SciFi HD before BSG starts again.

If I remember an email I read today, quite quickly...BCS is in contract talks with Sci-Fi HD already.
VidEditor

Found out today that BCS is planning on adding 18 HD channels in 2008. :)Hopefully they will be full-time channels, unlike WGN-HD-have yet to see anything in HD on that channel.

VidEditor

Found out today that BCS is planning on adding 18 HD channels in 2008. :)Hopefully they will be full-time channels, unlike WGN-HD-have yet to see anything in HD on that channel.

VidEditor

Great news! Any idea what channels?

That's all I know... honestly...as of 3-5-08 12:03am

That is good news, I am really Jones'in for some new channels (options)... I hope they roll out some soon.

Has anyone added an eSata drive to their Pace box yet? Any recommendations or things to stay away from?

I went to Buckeye last night to get a new cable modem (mine was about 6 years old and was finally giving up the ghost) and asked about the Pace boxes. The CSR (she might have been the best/most helpful CSR I've ever had) told me that they had the new Pace boxes, and mentioned to me that if you got one without an internal hard drive, it was $5 a month cheaper and I could still add an eSata drive to use with the DVR function, so I went that route. Now I just need to get an eSata drive and watch all the stuff on the old Motorola box before turning it in. I'm excited about having a bigger hard drive and also (hopefully) getting rid of all the problems/annoyances I've had with the Moto box.

Has anyone added an eSata drive to their Pace box yet? Any recommendations or things to stay away from?

I went to Buckeye last night to get a new cable modem (mine was about 6 years old and was finally giving up the ghost) and asked about the Pace boxes. The CSR (she might have been the best/most helpful CSR I've ever had) told me that they had the new Pace boxes, and mentioned to me that if you got one without an internal hard drive, it was $5 a month cheaper and I could still add an eSata drive to use with the DVR function, so I went that route. Now I just need to get an eSata drive and watch all the stuff on the old Motorola box before turning it in. I'm excited about having a bigger hard drive and also (hopefully) getting rid of all the problems/annoyances I've had with the Moto box.

I am using a Vanstar enclosure that seems to work for most people in the pace forums. I have no problems.

That said, I am not sure that the CSR was correct, the DVR feature is enabled at Buckeye, so unless they allow you to have that feature, it will not work.

Let us know what you find out...

I am using a Vanstar enclosure that seems to work for most people in the pace forums. I have no problems.

That said, I am not sure that the CSR was correct, the DVR feature is enabled at Buckeye, so unless they allow you to have that feature, it will not work.

Let us know what you find out...

Where did you get the Vanstar enclosure?

If they do not allow it, she is losing points towards "best CSR ever"...

I'll let you know what I find out.

Where did you get the Vanstar enclosure?

If they do not allow it, she is losing points towards "best CSR ever"...

I'll let you know what I find out.

Sorry, I told you incorrectly, Vantec NextStar 3:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145406&CatId=2778

That one is blue, but they do make a black one also...

Thanks Trabbic!

Well, I just read the instruction manual, and it's only a single tuner, so I'll be heading back to exchange this for the real DVR ASAP.

Has anyone added an eSata drive to their Pace box yet? Any recommendations or things to stay away from?

I have a Seagate FreeAgent 320gb and it works pretty well......but....if I were to do it again I would buy a drive and enclosure. There are a few people who have problems with the Seagate drives.

hey everybody. just called buckeye [03/07 @ 10:15am] to ask about any upcoming hd additions. the lady had a memo saying the following channels would be added by "the end of march":

history, a&e, ion, ion life, q-ba, fox fx

thats how she read them from her memo. i'm assuming history, a&e and fx are the hd channels. wiki shows that ion, ion life and qubo are wastelands full of infomercials and reruns with very little to no original programming and most certainly not HD. oh, well. fxHD should be nice for dirt and nip/tuck.

that sucks about the new pace only having one tuner. definently a deal breaker.

hey everybody. just called buckeye [03/07 @ 10:15am] to ask about any upcoming hd additions. the lady had a memo saying the following channels would be added by "the end of march":

history, a&e, ion, ion life, q-ba, fox fx

thats how she read them from her memo. i'm assuming history, a&e and fx are the hd channels. wiki shows that ion, ion life and qubo are wastelands full of infomercials and reruns with very little to no original programming and most certainly not HD. oh, well. fxHD should be nice for dirt and nip/tuck.

that sucks about the new pace only having one tuner. definently a deal breaker.

History and A&E are cool... Come on Discovery -- I have to see Ice Road Truckers in HD this year!!! If you haven't seen this show yet, don't let the name/premise put you off, I find it strangely fascinating!!

Not sure if anyone watches Food Network, but Food Network HD will finally start mirroring what's on channel 65. Non HD shows will be upconverted to HD. This will start March 30th or 31st.

Not sure if anyone watches Food Network, but Food Network HD will finally start mirroring what's on channel 65. Non HD shows will be upconverted to HD. This will start March 30th or 31st.Food Network HD is on in my house probably 50% of the time - not sure if mirroring what's on "regular" Food TV is a good thing or not.......at least on the HD chnnel, we don't have to put up with every other show featuring Rachel Ray.

that sucks about the new pace only having one tuner. definently a deal breaker.

The Pace DVR is dual-tuner, and in my experience superior to the Moto box.

Food Network HD is on in my house probably 50% of the time - not sure if mirroring what's on "regular" Food TV is a good thing or not.......at least on the HD chnnel, we don't have to put up with every other show featuring Rachel Ray.

While that is possibly true... It does show a lot of repeats.

While that is possibly true... It does show a lot of repeats.Right you are about that.

The Pace DVR is dual-tuner, and in my experience superior to the Moto box.

I'll concur with that experience. I got the Pace DVR on Saturday (I think it's the 787 model, but don't quote me on that) and it doesn't seem to have nearly as many weird pauses between a remote command and the unit executing as the Moto box did. Another thing I noticed is that the IR receiver on the box has a much wider range than the Moto box does. My AV cabinet sits so that all the gear is at about a 45 degree angle from where I sit with the remote. I had to sit the Moto box at an angle in the rack or else it wouldn't receive the remote signal. With the Pace, I have it straight in the rack and it still picks up signals fine. So far I'm 100% satisfied.

I do have one question, though: how can you tell if the esata drive you hooked up is working properly? I hooked one up (following the DVR's instructions) and the DVR appeared to load software to the external drive (took about 1 1/2 hours) and then booted as normal. Everything appears to be working, but when I record something, it still takes up about the same % of available DVR space as before (ie: a 1 hr HD show takes 6-7% of available space, per the DVR list). Since I added a 500GB drive to the 160GB internal, shouldn't the % used drop significantly?

While that is possibly true... It does show a lot of repeats.There is a bulletin in HDTV Magazine (online) today announcing the Food Network and Food Network HD simulcast - same goes for HGTV and HGTV-HD. Both effective 3-31-08.

jubjub -

You need to go into the diagnostic menu and see if the external drive is recognized.

With the TV on hit "Power" then "Select" on the front panel. Look at HDD Status, that should tell you if both drives are recognized. There are threads on the Pace DVR's with more information should you be interested.

Thanks RU FSTR! I will check it tonight...

Is anyone having any issues receiving 24.1, 24.2, or 24.3 today? They all worked Tuesday night, but didn't work Wednesday night or so far today (Thursday). My TV says "Signal Can't Be Decoded". I have no problems receiving 11.1, 13.1, or 36.1. Just wondering if its an issue with the NBC station's signal.

Is anyone having any issues receiving 24.1, 24.2, or 24.3 today? They all worked Tuesday night, but didn't work Wednesday night or so far today (Thursday). My TV says "Signal Can't Be Decoded". I have no problems receiving 11.1, 13.1, or 36.1. Just wondering if its an issue with the NBC station's signal.

I think this was fixed today around Noon. Have you tried 126.7 (NBC), 126.22 (RTN), or 126.8 (24 Weather Plus).

Hey guys, is anyone having problems with WUPW Fox's HD channel breaking up bad? I noticed it Saturday night, and now I sat down to watch last night's American Idol, and it's pixellating and losing audio like saturday was. I called Time warner and they said it has been reported and she'd note that we were having problems too. I wondered if it was a Time Warner or WUPW problem?

AI looked good here in Toledo...
Videditor

Thanks Videditor. That means it's a Time Warner problem. It's been going on at least since Saturday, and it's still going on. I had to watch SD Fox tonight because it was still breaking up bad. I wish Buckeye Cable would spread out and we could get rid of TWC.

Thanks Videditor. That means it's a Time Warner problem. It's been going on at least since Saturday, and it's still going on. I had to watch SD Fox tonight because it was still breaking up bad. I wish Buckeye Cable would spread out and we could get rid of TWC.

I lived in Genoa up until June of '07 and had TWC. I've since then moved to Northwood and cannot believe how much BETTER Buckeye is. More HD, better DVR, and more reliable internet. Plus the support is better, and local.

Hey guys, is anyone having problems with WUPW Fox's HD channel breaking up bad? I noticed it Saturday night, and now I sat down to watch last night's American Idol, and it's pixellating and losing audio like saturday was. I called Time warner and they said it has been reported and she'd note that we were having problems too. I wondered if it was a Time Warner or WUPW problem?

I have Buckeye and my American Idol was unwatchable from Tuesday.

We just tried to watch it last night, and it was breaking up every 30 seconds or so with drops in audio. Usually I would attribute this to my DVR, but we started to watch Wednesday's show and that was perfect. Along with your reports of poor quality, I am not so sure.

?:(

I lived in Genoa up until June of '07 and had TWC. I've since then moved to Northwood and cannot believe how much BETTER Buckeye is. More HD, better DVR, and more reliable internet. Plus the support is better, and local.Never had any experience with TWC but, IMHO, Buckeye's service is second to none. I went the satellite dish routes from 1995 to 2006 when I switched back to Buckeye - who had come a very long way since I left them in 1995. I couldn't be more pleased with them. Well, ok, I'll be more pleased as they continue to add more HD programming - preferably non-sports. I think we've got enough HD sports now thank you.

New channels coming to Buckeye on 4/15....

HD Basic
A&E HD
History Channel HD

HD Plus Pack
MGM HD

JubJub - I would make sure the drive is partitioned. It may not be recognized because it has no partition on it.

I am really hoping they pick up CBC in HD - I love watching saturday night hockey.

Also, to anyone who is getting a eSATA drive, I spoke to an individual last week from Buckeye who said that when data is written to the drive, it is encrypted and cannot be transferred to a pc which really sucks. There are multiple connections on the back of the unit, but only the eSATA works. I might look into researching it more when I have time to see if adjustments can be made.

New channels coming to Buckeye on 4/15....

HD Basic
A&E HD
History Channel HD

HD Plus Pack
MGM HD

Whu hu! A step in the right direction!

Does anyone know in the area a business that will install cable and cat 5/6 wiring through the walls? Buckeye said they would put cable in all my rooms at 42 for the first room and then 26 for each room after. If there is a cheaper alternative, I would like to take it. However, I do not know anyone who is comfortable enough to drill holes in the wall and guide the cabling through.

Does anyone know in the area a business that will install cable and cat 5/6 wiring through the walls? Buckeye said they would put cable in all my rooms at 42 for the first room and then 26 for each room after. If there is a cheaper alternative, I would like to take it. However, I do not know anyone who is comfortable enough to drill holes in the wall and guide the cabling through.

What about Cable Express?

http://www.cable-express.com/services.htm

Does anyone know in the area a business that will install cable and cat 5/6 wiring through the walls? Buckeye said they would put cable in all my rooms at 42 for the first room and then 26 for each room after. If there is a cheaper alternative, I would like to take it. However, I do not know anyone who is comfortable enough to drill holes in the wall and guide the cabling through.

Have you talked with Jamieson's in Toledo?

http://www.jamiesonsaudiovideo.com/

I don't know exactly what you're doing, but they do custom installs and are good.

Good luck,
Mark

Does anyone know in the area a business that will install cable and cat 5/6 wiring through the walls? Buckeye said they would put cable in all my rooms at 42 for the first room and then 26 for each room after. If there is a cheaper alternative, I would like to take it. However, I do not know anyone who is comfortable enough to drill holes in the wall and guide the cabling through.

Northwest Electrical has pulled cat5e & video for me, though they probably won't be cheaper. But they have great guys.
VidEditor

JubJub - I would make sure the drive is partitioned. It may not be recognized because it has no partition on it.

I am really hoping they pick up CBC in HD - I love watching saturday night hockey.

Also, to anyone who is getting a eSATA drive, I spoke to an individual last week from Buckeye who said that when data is written to the drive, it is encrypted and cannot be transferred to a pc which really sucks. There are multiple connections on the back of the unit, but only the eSATA works. I might look into researching it more when I have time to see if adjustments can be made.


Also...the eSATA drive recorded material will only work with that particular DVR. When the box dies...the recordings are unretrievable using another box.

I swear... Time Warner Waterville sucks! I am getting nothing on some of my HD channels, pixelation on others. A total of about 1/2 of my HD channels are screwed up, and I am getting no help from TWC. They give us a run around everytime we call. Reset the box (there are 2 boxes in our house, I doubt both went bad at the same time). My neighbors are all having the same problems on their HD. TWC blames local networks, satellites, broadcasters, santa claus, the easter bunny and any other fictional excuse they can muster. I'm thinking seriously about DirecTV again. Anyone here have advice about satellite providers? Thanks for listening to my rant.

I just upgraded from basic cable to the HDTV Plus pack and the DVR. All for our new Samsung t4065f! We are brand new to HD so I hope we ordered the best deal from BuckeyCable.

Looks like our monthly bill will be about 110.00 that includes our 1.5 Internet connection. :|
Plus a 25.00 installation when they come out tomorrow, Tue.

Any advice or tips appreciated. The forums here have been very helpful in making our TV purchase, we love it!

I just upgraded from basic cable to the HDTV Plus pack and the DVR. All for our new Samsung t4065f! We are brand new to HD so I hope we ordered the best deal from BuckeyCable.

Looks like our monthly bill will be about 110.00 that includes our 1.5 Internet connection. :|
Plus a 25.00 installation when they come out tomorrow, Tue.

Any advice or tips appreciated. The forums here have been very helpful in making our TV purchase, we love it!

That sounds about right. we too pay about 108/109 I think, with the same broadband cable speed. Not entirely sure, but I think with cable internet that is around the cheapest HD package you can get thru buckeye (we do have DVR with that too though).

New channels coming to Buckeye on 4/15....

HD Basic
A&E HD
History Channel HD

HD Plus Pack
MGM HD

This merited an engadget announcement:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/31/buckeye-cable-gains-history-hd-aande-hd-and-mgm-hd/

Thanks a lot jdc, thats what I needed to know.

This merited an engadget announcement:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/31/buckeye-cable-gains-history-hd-aande-hd-and-mgm-hd/

I know, because I'm the one that sent them the heads-up. Maybe someday I can tell them about getting USA, SciFi and PPV HD. Someday.

I know, because I'm the one that sent them the heads-up. Maybe someday I can tell them about getting USA, SciFi and PPV HD. Someday.

Good to know, thanks! I agree 100% about the new channels. Those are the highest on my list now that we will have History HD.

I just updated to sd with one of the converter boxes. I live in the old west end. Does everyone (over the air) have issues with channel 40? I have not been able to find the right spot for the antenna. It seems to always cut in and out. I have my antenna up on top of my 3 story house. I would think that since I get 20 Detroit in fine that 40 Toledo would not be a problem.

Thanks a lot folks. I will check into their prices. I don't want to pay more than 100 bucks to have this all setup. I will check and see what each one cost and determine where I am going to go from their.

I am doing some research and wanted to inquire on some places to have a tower installed.

So far, I have seen some big gaps in pricing.

Examples:

American 50' Tower Installed ONLY $850 :)
Kroma - $1100
Skyline - $1473 - They are drunk! :mad:

Comments?

Hey Guys... I know a few of you watch (because of your wives of course), American Idol... This year it seems (even to my wife) that the vocals are getting lost in the surround mix. Very strong L/R signals. Maybe FOX is not concentrating on the 5.1? mix Anyone else experience this? Nothing in my setup has changed since last year. I'll look around the forum for other possible comments.
VidEditor

Hey Guys... I know a few of you watch (because of your wives of course), American Idol... This year it seems (even to my wife) that the vocals are getting lost in the surround mix. Very strong L/R signals. Maybe FOX is not concentrating on the 5.1? mix Anyone else experience this? Nothing in my setup has changed since last year. I'll look around the forum for other possible comments.
VidEditor

My wife also "makes" me watch Idol with her. ;) The sound seems well balanced to me this year, although I do have my center channel up one or two db's over reference out of respect for my neighbors (and my sub -3db's :(). I have noticed in the past that Fox usually has stronger surround emphasis on their mix, especially with football.

It is possible that my system is in midnight mode also. My wife saw me do this one time, and ever since then she loves to put it in Midnight mode so its "not so boomy".

I will check and report back when I get home later today...

Everyone knows about the 30 second skip, right?

http://www.theglitch.ws/2008/04/03/30-second-skip/

My wife also "makes" me watch Idol with her. ;) The sound seems well balanced to me this year, although I do have my center channel up one or two db's over reference out of respect for my neighbors (and my sub -3db's :(). I have noticed in the past that Fox usually has stronger surround emphasis on their mix, especially with football.

It is possible that my system is in midnight mode also. My wife saw me do this one time, and ever since then she loves to put it in Midnight mode so its "not so boomy".

I will check and report back when I get home later today...

OK here is the update, I DID have midnight mode enabled, so that may have been boosting the vocals. I will update this post after watching the next two nights.

Trabbic,
I did notice tonight the center channel more even with the surround efxs on the Gives Back Show. Though the guest musical portions were taped on Sunday Night. On the Moto cable box, correct me if I am off here, but Buckeye's "audio setup" with the "audio output" selections has NO effect on the output when using the boxes Optical Output. You can tell a change when the RCA's are connected. Maybe for tomorrow's show I'll make that change for the fun of it.
VidEditor

Everyone knows about the 30 second skip, right?

http://www.theglitch.ws/2008/04/03/30-second-skip/

Oh man do i LOVE the 30 second skip. Hopefully sometime this decade I can use it to skip through commercials on USA-HD or SciFi-HD if Buckeye ever adds them. Seriously, almost everday I read on engadget about another cableco adding them to their lineups. And I wonder if Buckeye is doing anything to moving closer to eliminating analog cable. It seems like that is the only real option left to increase bandwidth for HD and internet speeds. They'll just have to eat the cost of providing cheap, bare-bones digital STBs for everyones garages, kitchens and kids rooms.

Oh man do i LOVE the 30 second skip....[snip]... Seriously, almost everday I read on engadget about another cableco adding them to their lineups. And I wonder if Buckeye is doing anything to moving closer to eliminating analog cable. It seems like that is the only real option left to increase bandwidth for HD and internet speeds. They'll just have to eat the cost of providing cheap, bare-bones digital STBs for everyones garages, kitchens and kids rooms.

I think that should read "WE (BuckeyeCablesystem subscribers in the form of higher fees) will just have to eat the cost of providing cheap, bare-bones digital STBs ...."

No such thing as a free lunch.

Who here would leave Buckeye CableSystem if there was choice? Do you like the local service?

Who here would leave Buckeye CableSystem if there was choice? Do you like the local service?


I would consider Verizon FiOS if it ever becomes available.

Just had a cable card installed 2 weeks ago, but I can't get TVGOS to get any data. Any ideas?

Thanks

Who here would leave Buckeye CableSystem if there was choice? Do you like the local service?

I've had Buckeye for about 10 months and have been very happy. I guess the only thing that would make me leave is if Buckeye doesn't keep up with the HD additions. Yeah, they're adding the three of them in a few days, but that still puts them behind many other cableco's. They need to add a couple of channels at least once a month.

Hey cool we got the 3 new hd channels today.

HD Basic
A&E HD
History Channel HD

HD Plus Pack
MGM HD



Everyone knows about the 30 second skip, right?

http://www.theglitch.ws/2008/04/03/30-second-skip/

hmmm, I have a moto box, I added the codes but what is the skip button? is it the FFW button? If it is then it's not doing a 30 sec skip.[QUOTE=maxdefcon;13601424]Everyone knows about the 30 second skip, right?

Just had a cable card installed 2 weeks ago, but I can't get TVGOS to get any data. Any ideas?

ThanksGood luck with Buckeye and a CableCard. My past experience with that combo was unpleasant at best. The Cable companies don't like CableCards and, therefore, IMHO, don't bother to put much support behind them. Thankfully, I no longer have the set that was CableCard "ready".

hmmm, I have a moto box, I added the codes but what is the skip button? is it the FFW button? If it is then it's not doing a 30 sec skip.Everyone knows about the 30 second skip, right?

It's whatever key you assign it to while programming (for instance if memory serves they had the blue B button i think). I put mine on the A button for simplicity. It will also affect your fast forward when you get up to 3 or 4 ff speed.

Hey cool we got the 3 new hd channels today.

HD Basic
A&E HD
History Channel HD

HD Plus Pack
MGM HD





hmmm, I have a moto box, I added the codes but what is the skip button? is it the FFW button? If it is then it's not doing a 30 sec skip.[QUOTE=maxdefcon;13601424]Everyone knows about the 30 second skip, right?

You have to follow the directions precisely. You have to assign a button to be the "30 second skip".

Oh man do i LOVE the 30 second skip. Hopefully sometime this decade I can use it to skip through commercials on USA-HD or SciFi-HD if Buckeye ever adds them. Seriously, almost everday I read on engadget about another cableco adding them to their lineups. And I wonder if Buckeye is doing anything to moving closer to eliminating analog cable. It seems like that is the only real option left to increase bandwidth for HD and internet speeds. They'll just have to eat the cost of providing cheap, bare-bones digital STBs for everyones garages, kitchens and kids rooms.

This is the route Buckeye is going...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_digital_video

Who here would leave Buckeye CableSystem if there was choice? Do you like the local service?

I totally would....I pay 115 bucks a month between cable and internet...This to me seems way over priced. The quality of the product is good, but the price is what would make me jump. Buckeye has made it so that we don't have a choice...call it a monopoly or what you will.

I totally would....I pay 115 bucks a month between cable and internet...This to me seems way over priced. The quality of the product is good, but the price is what would make me jump. Buckeye has made it so that we don't have a choice...call it a monopoly or what you will.

Totally disagree with you here on the "Buckeye has made it so..." Anyone can come into Toledo (like AT&T is) and offer cable services. Problem is... it's expensive to do. No monopoly, just they got here first. Not to mention the fact that video services are tough to do stand-alone. Programming is so expensive you must have other services to float the TV side. Ask yourself how many tech companies have re-invested over 200 million dollars to keep Toledo on the leading edge of technology?
I work in the TV world and have friends @ Buckeye... kool stuff is coming and the extra bandwidth they put in a few years back is really going to pay off soon.
It's similar to the old A/B system BCS had... the "B" side was put in as a possible return path. What was that "cube" box??? Something to do with video return, interactive something... anyway... it's thinking outside the box just like the extra fiber bandwidth they put in. Ever wonder why no other company has ever come in to Toledo...could it possibly be BCS is a good supplier, thus tough competition? I just dislike the whole monopoly line. Sorry for the lengthly post...Any utility is expensive these days, that is for sure.
VidEditor

I work in the TV world and have friends @ Buckeye... kool stuff is coming and the extra bandwidth they put in a few years back is really going to pay off soon.


Please don't tease us....what is this "kool stuff" you speak of.

Originally Posted by stewart123
I totally would....I pay 115 bucks a month between cable and internet...This to me seems way over priced. The quality of the product is good, but the price is what would make me jump. Buckeye has made it so that we don't have a choice...call it a monopoly or what you will.

The pricing doesn't bother me one bit. I pay $142 for TV/internet/phone and feel it's a fair deal. The service is excellent compared to anything else out there. The only reason I would switch is if a provider offered more bandwidth allowing a greater selection of, high quality, HD content.

Who here would leave Buckeye CableSystem if there was choice? Do you like the local service?All things considered, I am pleased with my Buckeye service. I do pay a considerable sum each month - $172 - for their VIP service. I have all of the cable channels offered - except for the premium stuff like HBO, Showtime, etc, all of the HD offered, the "premium" phone service, high speed Internet service and two STB's one of which is also an HD DVR. IMHO, Buckeye's service is second to none when you have a problem. Sometimes it takes some extra effort to get your problem routed beyond a front line tech but once you do, the issues are generally resolved promptly. My only gripe would be the monthly fee for the STB's - a bit high I believe. But, what other company can you call 24 X 7 X 365 when you have a problem? Very few in my experience.

Anybody know what the TVGOS host channel is on Buckeye?

Thanks

Jim

Thanks for the replies jdcsi99 & maxdefcon. I got the 30 sec skip to work. On the last step, I had to hold the blue B button down til it blinked twice, which it didn't specify in the directions.


On another subject, "Sports Time Ohio" channel 646 here, hasn't been working since Friday. I called and Buckeye Cable just says there having problems.

I'm missing all the Indians games in HD. I'm pretty pissed because that's one of the main reasons I got HD this year!

T
On another subject, "Sports Time Ohio" channel 646 here, hasn't been working since Friday. I called and Buckeye Cable just says there having problems.


Yeah, that sucks. I can hardly watch the low-def broadcast, it's pretty pathetic.

Found it. Channnel 99

Found it. Channnel 99

Channel 99?

Thanks for the replies jdcsi99 & maxdefcon. I got the 30 sec skip to work. On the last step, I had to hold the blue B button down til it blinked twice, which it didn't specify in the directions.

Glad you got the 30 second skip to work. That's strange, I had a few other people (family) try the instructions from my site and it worked without holding the button chosen.

Totally disagree with you here on the "Buckeye has made it so..." Anyone can come into Toledo (like AT&T is) and offer cable services. Problem is... it's expensive to do. No monopoly, just they got here first. Not to mention the fact that video services are tough to do stand-alone. Programming is so expensive you must have other services to float the TV side. Ask yourself how many tech companies have re-invested over 200 million dollars to keep Toledo on the leading edge of technology?
I work in the TV world and have friends @ Buckeye... kool stuff is coming and the extra bandwidth they put in a few years back is really going to pay off soon.
It's similar to the old A/B system BCS had... the "B" side was put in as a possible return path. What was that "cube" box??? Something to do with video return, interactive something... anyway... it's thinking outside the box just like the extra fiber bandwidth they put in. Ever wonder why no other company has ever come in to Toledo...could it possibly be BCS is a good supplier, thus tough competition? I just dislike the whole monopoly line. Sorry for the lengthly post...Any utility is expensive these days, that is for sure.
VidEditor

No offense taken - It is very difficult for other providers to come in here. Similar to AT&T they own the lines in Toledo which makes it a monopoly until they are forced to lease the lines out - much like what happened with AT&T. What you must understand is, me as a customer, has absolutely no choice in provider. I must go with Buckeye for internet or tv. Rumor is Verizon is going to put Fiber in our area soon enough.

What makes me more mad with Buckeye than anything is the fact that they charge me an extra 10 bucks a month if I don't have at least 2 of their services. 40 bucks a month for 1.5 mb down and 125k up is extremely expensive to what other areas have. If I want high speed, I cannot go with dish tv because it would be more expensive after the price reduction.

My girlfriends folks from Cleveland have 1.5mb down and 512k up and they pay 19.99 a month. They do not have to get cable tv through that company to get any type of break. Why is it that we must pay almost double? Buckeye has definitely improved their performance.

I definitely appreciate customer service at Buckeye. They are a good company for user support. Remember, Buckeye is owned by the Block family who also owns the blade (another monopoly in Toledo).

What kind of cool stuff is coming?

The pricing doesn't bother me one bit. I pay $142 for TV/internet/phone and feel it's a fair deal. The service is excellent compared to anything else out there. The only reason I would switch is if a provider offered more bandwidth allowing a greater selection of, high quality, HD content.

What are you comparing the service to? Dial-up? Satellite? Sure cable is always going to be the better service...but at what price? When someone controls they market, they can charge whatever they want.

What are you comparing the service to? Dial-up? Satellite? Sure cable is always going to be the better service...but at what price? When someone controls they market, they can charge whatever they want.

For our $142 we get 188 channels (33 are HD) , a DVR, 7mbs internet as well as telephone service. I work with someone who has DSL, they pay almost $70 for phone service and a slower internet connection.

I have no problem paying MORE for BETTER service. However, Buckeye can only charge what the market will bear. If they jumped the price for what I have to $250, I'd cancel. It's not worth that much to me.

What DVR box is Buckeye currently distributing? I am a new subscriber (3 weeks) and they gave me a Moto 6412 that is slow, freezes up, reboots, drops audio/video and pixelates video on a regular basis. A friend of mine has a newer looking box and I've been reading about some new Pace box that has been distributed. Just curious if I got the shaft with some old piece.

Thanks,

Adam

Buckeye can only charge what the market will bear.

Bingo!

Sorry for the tease... BEX speeds going up-no additional charge...SPEED HD in talks. And even more BEX speed coming, but really super duper.

I have heard rumors of BEX going to synchronous speeds vs. the current industry standard of asynchronous. This would definitely be a big step forward for a local company to offer synchronous service. I think its all dependent upon the new DOCSIS 3.0 standard and how quickly it is adopted.

Are one know if there is anything in the works to add USA HD? I really want to watch the new season of Burn Notice in HD when it returns in either June or July.

What DVR box is Buckeye currently distributing? I am a new subscriber (3 weeks) and they gave me a Moto 6412 that is slow, freezes up, reboots, drops audio/video and pixelates video on a regular basis. A friend of mine has a newer looking box and I've been reading about some new Pace box that has been distributed. Just curious if I got the shaft with some old piece.

Thanks,

Adam

I have a Pace. It's waaaaaaaay better than the Moto box.

I have heard rumors of BEX going to synchronous speeds vs. the current industry standard of asynchronous. This would definitely be a big step forward for a local company to offer synchronous service. I think its all dependent upon the new DOCSIS 3.0 standard and how quickly it is adopted.

Bingo again... You guys are good... Speeds tested so far have hit 50mbps, looking at 100,max out @ 200 depending on system.

VE

Bingo again... You guys are good... Speeds tested so far have hit 50mbps, looking at 100,max out @ 200 depending on system.

VE

I assume the move to DOCSIS 3.0 will require a new cable modem. Does this effect the bandwidth available for TV at all?

And most importantly........when do we get it :D

The biggest question is going to be price?

I assume the move to DOCSIS 3.0 will require a new cable modem. Does this effect the bandwidth available for TV at all?

And most importantly........when do we get it :D

My guess is if 100 Mbps or even 200 Mbps can be an assumed connection speed for internet I don't see how it would really affect HD. I think the minimum standard for 720p is around 12 - 15 Mbps and 1080i is around 25 - 30 Mbps. This is at mpeg2, mpeg4 the requirements drop just a bit. Not to mention, the switch to all digital will give them even more bandwidth.

Buckeye did a lot of work a few years back with their HFC network and I just saw them in my neighborhood last week putting in more cable so I would hope they are prepared. Maybe they will decide to do a little FTTH, wouldn't that be nice.

I still want to see a little HD VOD as well.

Not to mention, the switch to all digital will give them even more bandwidth.

Um.......I believe they are going to carry analog and digital - even after 2-17-09.

A question for those with internet expertise.... How much faster will web browsing really be with these increased speeds? At some point doesn't the speed of the website server determine how fast pages load? Even if you had say, a 1Gbs connection, is it going to be noticeably faster than 100Mbs?

Um.......I believe they are going to carry analog and digital - even after 2-17-09.

It may be a year or so (after 2/09) before BCS drops analog and makes every TV in your home require a STB. Especially with the new deliverly system. Most homes have one STB and non converter signals in bedrooms, etc. The general public will be mad when each tv will have to have a STB. Guess you could use the argument that a satellite service needs one for each tv.

VE

Videditor,

Fox News fires up an HD version of their news channel on Thursday. Seems this would be a natural for Buckeye since they have Fox Buisness HD. Any word of Fox News HD?

Also..I do enjoy the new channels, particularly History HD. I was suprized to find that MGMHD is only pushing 12 mbits. I wonder if this low bitrate is how MGMHD feeds it or if Buckeye is applying extra compression to this particular channel?

A question for those with internet expertise.... How much faster will web browsing really be with these increased speeds? At some point doesn't the speed of the website server determine how fast pages load? Even if you had say, a 1Gbs connection, is it going to be noticeably faster than 100Mbs?

I think your web surfing would remain the same. I think the faster speeds will make way for newer services. IPTV, Netflix "Watch it Now" feature looks great with the faster speeds. Personally, I have an AppleTV and having the faster speeds loads HD Podcast/Movies/Trailers in no time. There's definitely pros for these faster speeds and will be used outside of your normal web surfing/email.

Has anyone noticed that Buckeye's internet speeds have gotten faster? For the last few weeks speed tests have shown up to 8mbps down/600kbps up. Is Buckeye giving everybody a little bit more speed on purpose or is it a goof? Oh and WHERE ARE USA AND SCI-FI HD CHANNELS!!!! Seriously, your breakin my balls here!!!