Yellow all,
Maybe someone could clarify something for me. I have buckeye-cable. I
recently made the plunge and got their dvr with the high def package. Pretty happy with it so far. My question is I have a tv in the BR that the channels only goes up to 99 or something. Its an older tv 10-12 years. To be able to watch nfl network on this set, (channel 193),I would have to rent another set top box from buckeye for $6.95 a month extra. Is this correct? Could I purchase a digital converter box myself to get these extra channels or do I have to go through buckeye? Thanks for any input!

I know you can purchase a box and you wouldn't have to pay for the box rental. However, if your box would ever break, you would have to buy another one. I'm not sure if there are other charges besides the box rental, so I would just call them to confirm.

Hey guys, my family is currently with Time Warner, but thinking of switching to Buckeye in the near future. I also happen to be getting an HDTV in the very near future. From an HD perspective, it seems that Buckeye offers far more channels for sports, but far fewer options for hockey packages. Any hockey fanatics that might offer some advice in such regards? I know Time Warner is in negotiations to get the NHL Network (they already offer it elsewhere), and already offers NHL Center Ice, but our service from them has been less than satisfactory. Unfortunately, Buckeye doesn't seem to offer Center Ice from what I can tell.

Rowdy- Perhaps their is a third option. Check out Directv Satellite service, they have more HD then either cable provider and may allow you to get both your sports and hockey fix. I've had Directv over a year and have been happy with it.

Cheers

I know you can purchase a box and you wouldn't have to pay for the box rental. However, if your box would ever break, you would have to buy another one. I'm not sure if there are other charges besides the box rental, so I would just call them to confirm.

Although Buckeye will activate a box you own, either a Motorola or Pace brand, they have no authorized retailers selling them, and haven't had any for years. That would leave you with the prospect of buying a box from an unknown source, like off eBay. Buckeye requires checking the box for compatibility and 'other issues', which is checking to see if the box is stolen from another cableco. Since there are very, very, very few cableco's in the US that will activate a customer owned box, almost 100% of the boxes you can buy would be stolen. As a matter of fact, I know of no retailers in the US that sell cable boxes anymore.

(The only exception to this is a box you buy in Canada. There is at least one large Canadian cableco, Shaw, that allows customers to buy their own cable boxes, and they do have authorized retailers. I don't know if Buckeye would activate a box bought in Canada, they said you would have to bring it in to them and they will let you know if it will works.)

Once you own the box, if anything goes wrong, you are completely out of luck. Buckeye will not repair it, even for a price. There are no facilities that repair these units for consumers.

The fee for activating a customer owned box is $3.50 per month. My strong advice is to simply rent another STB from Buckeye for the second location.

Rowdy- Perhaps their is a third option. Check out Directv Satellite service, they have more HD then either cable provider and may allow you to get both your sports and hockey fix. I've had Directv over a year and have been happy with it.

Cheers

Satellite isn't an option until I move out in early 2010, as the parents would prefer a cable/internet deal through TWC or Buckeye. I'd consider DirecTV otherwise. I think we're gonna go with the switch to Buckeye. Our internet connection was out for a good 12 hours *again* a couple of days ago through TWC.

Although Buckeye will activate a box you own, either a Motorola or Pace brand, they have no authorized retailers selling them, and haven't had any for years. That would leave you with the prospect of buying a box from an unknown source, like off eBay. Buckeye requires checking the box for compatibility and 'other issues', which is checking to see if the box is stolen from another cableco. Since there are very, very, very few cableco's in the US that will activate a customer owned box, almost 100% of the boxes you can buy would be stolen. As a matter of fact, I know of no retailers in the US that sell cable boxes anymore.

(The only exception to this is a box you buy in Canada. There is at least one large Canadian cableco, Shaw, that allows customers to buy their own cable boxes, and they do have authorized retailers. I don't know if Buckeye would activate a box bought in Canada, they said you would have to bring it in to them and they will let you know if it will works.)

Once you own the box, if anything goes wrong, you are completely out of luck. Buckeye will not repair it, even for a price. There are no facilities that repair these units for consumers.

The fee for activating a customer owned box is $3.50 per month. My strong advice is to simply rent another STB from Buckeye for the second location.

Thanks for the info!

Buckeye updated the firmware on the Pace 778 DVR's in the last day or so. Added a nifty diagnostic dashboard to the service menu.

Now we just need an update to the i-Guide....and SDV...and DOCIS 3.0...and HD VOD....and more channels...ok, I'm getting carried away...that's enough.

Buckeye updated the firmware on the Pace 778 DVR's in the last day or so. Added a nifty diagnostic dashboard to the service menu.

Now we just need an update to the i-Guide....and SDV...and DOCIS 3.0...and HD VOD....and more channels...ok, I'm getting carried away...that's enough.
I agree. I wish Buckeye would upgrade i-Guide, wish is really a poor effort using technology.

Anyone know if that 30 second commercial skip trick (programing the remote) works with the pace 778 I got from buckeye?

Works just fine on my 778X
VidEditor

I agree. I wish Buckeye would upgrade i-Guide, wish is really a poor effort using technology.The problem is using something that is fully compatible with all existing Digital Cable boxes. All cablecos have to work within the technical limits of the STB's they have in the field.

I can't remember specifically when, but there is a major i-Guide upgrade coming, at least for Comcast, seems to me like Q1 2009.

Anyone know if that 30 second commercial skip trick (programing the remote) works with the pace 778 I got from buckeye?

Yes, it does.

Soooooo... I haven't asked in a while, but when is Buckeye getting USA, SciFi and PPV in HD???

Soooooo... I haven't asked in a while, but when is Buckeye getting USA, SciFi and PPV in HD???

Charlie.. I know BCS has the final contracts going back & forth between the lawyers for the NBC Networks. BCS always seems to add a few channels around Christmas time, so I would not be surprised if something happens around that time this year. I heard this about two weeks ago.
VE

Hi Videditor,

Have you heard anything about CBC? I know that CBC now does broadcast in HD and would love to be able to watch Hockey Night in Canada. Do you know why it is not broadcasted in SD either?

Hi Videditor,

Have you heard anything about CBC? I know that CBC now does broadcast in HD and would love to be able to watch Hockey Night in Canada. Do you know why it is not broadcasted in SD either?

CBC does not have a digital transmitter in Windsor, so even cableco's in the Detroit area that carry CBC Windsor analog, can't carry CBC digital.

CBC does not have a digital transmitter in Windsor, so even cableco's in the Detroit area that carry CBC Windsor analog, can't carry CBC digital.

That really sucks! Hope they do something about that before too long. I wanna see how badly I'm blinded by Cherry's outfits in HD, LOL!

CBC does not have a digital transmitter in Windsor, so even cableco's in the Detroit area that carry CBC Windsor analog, can't carry CBC digital.

That really stinks. Has there been any type of talks in regards to this. I would really also like to see Don's suite!

Just saw on the NBC24 AM news show that U-Verse is coming to Toledo.

You can check your address for service here. (https://uverse1.att.com/un/launchAMSSNotAuthenticated.do?target_action=serviceabilityCh eck)

Just saw on the NBC24 AM news show that U-Verse is coming to Toledo.

I am not all the familiar with this....is there internet DSL or Cable?

Does anyone have any clue on prices compared to Buckeye? It is not available in my area.

I am not all the familiar with this....is there internet DSL or Cable?

Wikipedia - AT&T U-verse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-verse)

News from engadget....

Buckeye Cable gearing up for HD VOD, Start Over-type service (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/21/buckeye-cable-gearing-up-for-hd-vod-start-over-type-service/)

I am not all the familiar with this....is there internet DSL or Cable?

Does anyone have any clue on prices compared to Buckeye? It is not available in my area.

AT&T U-Verse Press Release for Toledo, OH (http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=26334).

Unfortunately, I think their prices will be lower than Buckeye to start... to draw customers. It'll be interesting.

Thanks a lot guys.

Definitely, interesting.

Has anyone here had experience with this? I am curious what the 18mb down is going to cost.

While I am pleased with my Buckeye VIP service, introduction of competition is always welcome. Hopefully, Verizon FIOS won't be far behind to place even more pressure on all parties to lower rates. While I admit that I could scale my Buckeye service back a bit if I wanted to, with no premium channels and no VOD purchases my monthly rate is $200.

Does anyone know how to get them to let you install a CableCard for free or let you install it? or at least discounted if not either of those since they really don't want you to use them.

Thanks a lot guys.

Definitely, interesting.

Has anyone here had experience with this? I am curious what the 18mb down is going to cost.
According to the Buckeye Cable newsletter, looks like they are going up to 20MB for $10 a month extra for VIP customers.

"Toledo, Michigan and Erie county VIP customers can take advantage of the fastest Internet service in the area with new download speeds up to 20Mbps with Buckeye Express High Speed Internet service. Download pictures and movies or play games faster than ever before. And all of this is just in the “Nick” of time for the Holidays with price plans starting at as little as $10 more per month."

Does anyone know how to get them to let you install a CableCard for free or let you install it? or at least discounted if not either of those since they really don't want you to use them.You simply have to call them, they typically want to come out, because some set up is required.

So you HAVE to be a VIP customer? I don't want to speak for everybody, but how many people have landlines anymore? Maybe if you ran your business out of your own home. There is no chance of me ever having a landline again. My Verizon cell service does just fine.

You simply have to call them, they typically want to come out, because some set up is required.True, some set up is required but my experience with Buckeye tech's ability to set up CableCards is very poor. Between the techs who came to my home and the techs they spoke with on the other end of the line - 3 different times - they were never successful. Each time required me to call, go through multiple first and second line techs before finally getting through to someone who knew what they were doing with CableCards. For this I was charged $100. It is not rocket science and there is absolutely no reason a tech needs to come to your home. Anyone on this forum could handle it. You simply slide the CableCard into the appropriate slot in your device. From the appropriate menu, a series of numbers appear that you read off to the Buckeye tech who punches them into their system and sends a refresh signal to your CableCard. Like magic, you have all the programming you subscribe to. The dirty little secret is that Buckeye simply does not want consumers using non-Buckeye supplied devices that accept CableCards because it cuts down on their revenue stream. When you have the opportunity to do so, take a close look at your Buckeye supplied DVR "cable box." Guess what you will find inside - usually visible through the vent slots? You guessed it, a CableCard!

True, some set up is required but my experience with Buckeye tech's ability to set up CableCards is very poor.Sure, because they have such little experience with them. It may well take escalating to supervisors and technical managers to get it done, but it's all a matter of persistence.

Sure, because they have such little experience with them. It may well take escalating to supervisors and technical managers to get it done, but it's all a matter of persistence.You are correct in that statement. But one would think since most everyone of the newer Buckeye supplied set top boxes have a CableCard installed inside them, that the techs would be acquiring the experieince and knowledge. Perhaps there is software inside the box that handles the CableCard details for them. Either way, since Buckeye does not make any charge for you to go to one of their satellite offices to obtain a set top box and allows you to install it yourself for nothing more than the monthly subscription fee, IMHO, the same policy should apply to CableCards. The $100 "installation" fee is Buckeye's way of discouraging the consumer from purchasing their STB (TiVo HD DVR, etc.) from someone other than Buckeye. While that policy is probably within the limits of FCC regulations, I would suggest that it skirts the spirit of the FCC rules regarding Cableco's and CableCards.

The $100 "installation" fee is Buckeye's way of discouraging the consumer from purchasing their STB (TiVo HD DVR, etc.) from someone other than Buckeye. While that policy is probably within the limits of FCC regulations, I would suggest that it skirts the spirit of the FCC rules regarding Cableco's and CableCards.Agree. $100 is way out of line.

Anyone know if there running any specials on the cable boxes or dvrs?

Anyone know if there running any specials on the cable boxes or dvrs?


My father-in-law just upgraded from Buckeye basic cable to their basic HD package. They gave it to him for $5.50/mo and said if he came in and picked up the box they would waive the $25 setup fee.

I am pretty tempted myself... as another poster said OTA is starting to feel a little archaic. The primary issue for me is the Vista Media Center box won't accept the HD cable connection. I would then have to get a DVR which is limited to 2 HD recordings and a max of 20 hours. I can do 3 HD and an analog at the same time with 2TB of storage.

According to the Buckeye Cable newsletter, looks like they are going up to 20MB for $10 a month extra for VIP customers.

"Toledo, Michigan and Erie county VIP customers can take advantage of the fastest Internet service in the area with new download speeds up to 20Mbps with Buckeye Express High Speed Internet service. Download pictures and movies or play games faster than ever before. And all of this is just in the “Nick” of time for the Holidays with price plans starting at as little as $10 more per month."

I will have to check it out. I will stick with buckeye if they price themselves better. However, for HD and a 2mb line 105$ is a little steep since my ex who was from Cleveland was only paying 19.99 for 1.5mb down a couple of years ago. I am not sure what her provider's hd was since she didn't have it.

Beginning today, DirecTV HD subscribers can now receive WGTE-DT. This is part of the DirecTV national rollout of local PBS Digital stations.

Any information on how the local stations did?

I saw a old You-Tube video on a test that failed in September, so are things ready now?

The tentative date is December 30th. If not, sometime in January.

E!
Speed
Golf
MLB
F/X

The tentative date is December 30th. If not, sometime in January.

E!
Speed
Golf
MLB
F/XMeh, three of which I would never causally watch. Ever.





Am I missing something? I've just noticed that Mojo HD is not there anymore. What's going on?


***EDIT***

Nevermind. I didn't realize it was off air for so long. I DVR'd Three Sheets and would just watch those. Damn.I'm bummed. I really like that channel. I hope someone picks up some of those shows.

E!
Speed
Golf
MLB
F/X

Well I checked this morning and it looks like they've added GolfHD and get this...GSN....because there's nothing I want to see more than upconverted lo-def game show reruns :confused:

Well I checked this morning and it looks like they've added GolfHD and get this...GSN....because there's nothing I want to see more than upconverted lo-def game show reruns :confused:

"strech-o-vision"? or are they doing some crop? I haven't had a chance to look at it yet.

Any other channels yet?

"strech-o-vision"? or are they doing some crop? I haven't had a chance to look at it yet.

Any other channels yet?

Didn't actually tune it in, the guide just listed "Paid Programming" when I looked at it this morning.

As of 8AM it was only GSN and Golf, perhaps there's more now. Though I recall the MLB channel doesn't kick off until Jan. 1st.

Looks like GSN is miss identified in the guide, it is actually E!HD.

Nothing in actual HD right now, but it is NOT stretched...

Looks like GSN is miss identified in the guide, it is actually E!HD.

Nothing in actual HD right now, but it is NOT stretched...

They fixed the guide. It reads E!HD now.

I checked again this morning, nothing new....perhaps tomorrow we'll get the rest.

Can anyone tell me the a reason why Buckeye only has the local stations available via clear qam? I understand paid channels would not be sent in the clear but why not the 2-69(73) channels that are on basic cable?

With the number of digital channels increasing the need to drop analog cable channels why no clear qam for all of us with sets that would support it? I really don't want a cable box. No matter what the size or cost of it.

Hi Videditor,

Have you heard anything about CBC? I know that CBC now does broadcast in HD and would love to be able to watch Hockey Night in Canada. Do you know why it is not broadcasted in SD either?

Watch HNIC on the NHLHD station. They carry it every Saturday night. Cheers.

Can anyone tell me the a reason why Buckeye only has the local stations available via clear qam? I understand paid channels would not be sent in the clear but why not the 2-69(73) channels that are on basic cable?The basic channels are usually in analog, in the clear. Local HD is always in clear QAM.

Buckeye may have switched over to a digital platform, to reclaim analog channels bandwidth. This allows them to put up a lot more digital channels. In that case, you will usually find limited analog channels still left; locals, public service, maybe a few basic cable channels, but that's about it.

Watch HNIC on the NHLHD station. They carry it every Saturday night. Cheers.

Is that available on Buckeye yet?

Is that available on Buckeye yet?

Not in HD. (Not sure about SD) Check the first post of this topic for detailed local info.

The tentative date is December 30th. If not, sometime in January.

E!
Speed
Golf
MLB
F/X
Buckeye Channel numbers?

WNWO-DT has added America One TV (SD), to replace NBC Weather Plus; it's on 24-3, digital 49-3.

First post updated.

DirecTV subs in Toledo:

What regional sports nets do you get in HD, that carry the live games?
FOX Sports Net Detroit HD?
FOX Sports Net Ohio HD?
SportsTime Ohio HD?
Others?


Dish Network subs in Toledo:
What regional sports nets do you get in HD, that carry the live games?
FOX Sports Net Detroit HD?
FOX Sports Net Ohio HD?
SportsTime Ohio HD?
Others?

Meh, three of which I would never causally watch. Ever.





Am I missing something? I've just noticed that Mojo HD is not there anymore. What's going on?


***EDIT***

Nevermind. I didn't realize it was off air for so long. I DVR'd Three Sheets and would just watch those. Damn.I'm bummed. I really like that channel. I hope someone picks up some of those shows.



looks like speed wont be added yet......I too am very bummed about three sheets, hope it gets picked up.

Question on aspect ratios after the big switch...

If the locals only broadcast a 16:9 signal what will Buckeye do with it on their analog channels? Will they just crop to 4:3? Or will we get letterboxed 16:9?

Question on aspect ratios after the big switch...

If the locals only broadcast a 16:9 signal what will Buckeye do with it on their analog channels? Will they just crop to 4:3? Or will we get letterboxed 16:9?

The satellite companies are cropping. The cable company will likely do that as well.

- Trip

Question on aspect ratios after the big switch...

If the locals only broadcast a 16:9 signal what will Buckeye do with it on their analog channels? Will they just crop to 4:3? Or will we get letterboxed 16:9?

Several of the locals already feed Buckeye via fiber so what you see now won't change on those stations.

Buckeye Channel numbers?

GolfHD 649
E!HD 658
FXHD 635
MLBHD 638

and two new ones that no one has talked about yet:

Lifetime HD 632
Lifetime Movie Network HD 633

EDIT: More channels not on the first post:

ABC Family HD 623
ESPN NEWS HD 639
ESPN U HD 642
Disney HD 667

GolfHD 649
E!HD 658
FXHD 635
MLBHD 638

and two new ones that no one has talked about yet:

Lifetime HD 632
Lifetime Movie Network HD 633

EDIT: More channels not on the first post:

ABC Family HD 623
ESPN NEWS HD 639
ESPN U HD 642
Disney HD 667Thanks!

Watch HNIC on the NHLHD station. They carry it every Saturday night. Cheers.

That is what I heard about Dish and Direct TV. Is this true about Buckeye? I did not see and HD station. Also, don't they have some crappy American announcers? Thanks!

I think no one mentioned the lifetime ones for a reason...just kidding.

Is Hallmark HD a premium service? My gf really likes watching that station but never get it in.

Anyone have any experience with MLBHD? Just wondering if they actually play games on the station or if it is just about as worthless as NFLHD.

For those unaware, TWC has stopped carrying CBC.

For those unaware, TWC has stopped carrying CBC.

And this is the exact reason why, after 4+ years, I switched back to Buckeye this morning.

TWC apparently has additional plans to drop WGTE in February.

As a hockey fan with young children, we just had to ditch Time Warner.

For those unaware, TWC has stopped carrying CBC.

I saw this on TWC's channel notices for the area.

:(

Buckeye also set me up with a couple of Motorola DCX3400 boxes.

I didn't have much of a chance to play around before leaving for work, but what does everyone have to say about them?

Anyone know how large the hard drive is?

Thanks!

DirecTV subs in Toledo:
What regional sports nets do you get in HD, that carry the live games?
FOX Sports Net Detroit HD?
FOX Sports Net Ohio HD?
SportsTime Ohio HD?
Others?


Dish Network subs in Toledo:
What regional sports nets do you get in HD, that carry the live games?
FOX Sports Net Detroit HD?
FOX Sports Net Ohio HD?
SportsTime Ohio HD?
Others?


Bump.

Is Hallmark HD a premium service? My gf really likes watching that station but never get it in.


Funny you mention that, I've been meaning to call Buckeye on this channel myself, I get the HD service with the HD Plus pack so barring premium pay HD channels I would assume I should have this channel too. However, everytime I goto it - it comes up not authorized... I was going to call buckeye and have them reset my box (I assume I am suppose to get it). Let me know if you hear anything on it.

For those unaware, TWC has stopped carrying CBC.

I emailed Time Warner about their removal of CBC, and here is their rather weak response:

Thank you for writing. CBET is located in Windsor, Canada and is not an in-market channel.
Additionally, this channel is offered on very few of our lineups. In addition to eliminating
duplicate programming, we are looking at opportunities to standardize our lineups as much as
possible. We apologize for the inconvenience.

For those unaware, TWC has stopped carrying CBC.

I noticed this too, and it sucks. There was a lot of good children's programming on it. My 4 and 7 year olds loved them. I liked watching the news on it also for an outside the US look at the world. TWC is going to lose me to D* if D* ever gets the SWM.

Funny you mention that, I've been meaning to call Buckeye on this channel myself, I get the HD service with the HD Plus pack so barring premium pay HD channels I would assume I should have this channel too. However, everytime I goto it - it comes up not authorized... I was going to call buckeye and have them reset my box (I assume I am suppose to get it). Let me know if you hear anything on it.

You need to have the variety pak to get Hallmark HD.

You need to have the variety pak to get Hallmark HD.

Thanks... thats kinda crappy I mean if I pay for the HD pak and the HD Plus pack i would kinda expect it to include all the HD channels (barring the premiums of course). Oh well, Buckeye is making strides in channel lineup for HD, but they still lack the satellites. If I weren't trying to move/sell my home I would be looking at the satellite providers for a larger HD lineup (I don't even look at SD channels, if nothing good on HD the TV gets turned off). Thanks for the info though - its been bugging me for awhile now.

Well, I'm happy to say I'm no longer a TWC cable customer (still Roadrunner customer though). I had D* installed last Friday, and so far it's awesome. I had TWC DVR and the D* DVR hooked up to my two HDMI inputs and switched back and forth and I couldn't tell a bit of difference. They cost exactly the same amount, and for the extra quantity of HD, I dont think I'll be too upset even if it goes out in a rainstorm. We didn't have to run any extra coax thanks to the SWM. Single coax to the back of each box. Only modification we had to do inside was eliminate a splitter in the basement, and there was already a spare coax run that would reach. Ar's and Yours Satellite did an amazing job btw if anyone is looking for an installer they can trust. I'm really happy about the whole thing. Ok, done with my rambling.

Buckeye is coming out sometime this week for me. I won't put up with missing Hockey Night in Canada. TWC has made me furious with things like this and the routinely dropped internet service for the last time. No more.

Buckeye is coming out sometime this week for me. I won't put up with missing Hockey Night in Canada. TWC has made me furious with things like this and the routinely dropped internet service for the last time. No more.

I had no idea TWC had overlapping service areas with Buckeye. Where?

I had no idea TWC had overlapping service areas with Buckeye. Where?

Waterville

Thanks... thats kinda crappy I mean if I pay for the HD pak and the HD Plus pack i would kinda expect it to include all the HD channels (barring the premiums of course). Oh well, Buckeye is making strides in channel lineup for HD, but they still lack the satellites. If I weren't trying to move/sell my home I would be looking at the satellite providers for a larger HD lineup (I don't even look at SD channels, if nothing good on HD the TV gets turned off). Thanks for the info though - its been bugging me for awhile now.

Its just like with the NBA channel. Unless you get the pak with that in it, you dont get NBAHD.

hey im looking for a little help here. i have buckeye standard cable (no hd boxes). i bought a USB qam/atsc tv tuner a few months ago to record hd shows. it works great, except i cannot get Fox (wupw) to come in with qam. kind of a hassle cause theres two shows on fox i normally record, so every couple days i have to switch from the antenna and the cable.

i just bought a new 47" hdtv and hooked that up to cable. i scanned the channels and can indeed get 36-1 to come in with qam. so i uninstalled the tv tuner software on my computer and tried to rescan the channels. i still get every local hd channel except for fox.

the software that comes with my tuner does not allow me to simply enter in the channel number (ie 36-1) and add it to the channel list. when i auto scan, it finds about 20 channels and labels them starting at 2001 and continuing to about 2023. interestingly enough, channel 13 is on 2013 and 11 is on 2011, but 24 and 30 are not on their respective channels.

after i scan, the channels it picks up are listed, and theres 3 columns: channel number (ie 2012), digital channel number (which for some reason all say 0.0), and physical channel number (which range from 100-133, but oddly enough a lot of channels have more than one, there are 4 channels listed under 133 but only one listed under 127.

i tried typing in 36-1, 36.1, 361, all combinations to try to get fox to come in, but it wont. anyone else using a hauppauge tuner? or does anyone know how i can get this to tune in? when i type in 36-1, it automatically changes it to mHz, maybe someone knows that number?

Waterville

Also certain areas of Monclova/Maumee, like The Quarry in Maumee.

I had no idea TWC had overlapping service areas with Buckeye. Where?I live in Maumee off of Garden RD(turns into Heatherdowns). I also have overlapping TWC and Buckeye service.

Sitlet - I am guessing it is not numbered correctly. I experienced the same thing when I set up my ATSC tuner. You probably will have to go through it and label the channel and possibly add it as a favorite depending on your software. You may want to try to update your driver for that card....I would definitely suggest before doing so though you research it on a couple of forums because the TV tuner cards tend to be pretty touchy from time to time.

Personally, I feel like my tuner card was a waste because of how little I use it and just went ahead and pay the monthly rental on my STB with my DVR. I may start using it next year for some football games and such. I just find it more of a hassle than anything, but that is my opinion.

Has anyone heard anything about Uverse lately? There was a big discussion at work today in my department about Buckeye and the price and people want to compare it to Uverse. I am just wondering when it will be in the area where I possibly could at least get a quote on it.

Has anyone heard anything about Uverse lately? There was a big discussion at work today in my department about Buckeye and the price and people want to compare it to Uverse. I am just wondering when it will be in the area where I possibly could at least get a quote on it.

I had a friend switch & now he's back with Buckeye. Don't know the specifics yet.

silet, I dunno if this helps any. Here are Buckeye's QAM listings.

WGTE Family (PBS) 127.2 or 30.2
WTOL 11 24/7 Weather 115.12
WTO5 5 (The CW) Toledo 126.1 or 5.1
WTOL 11 (CBS) Toledo 124.1 or 11.1
WTVG 13 (ABC) Toledo 124.13 or 13.1
WTVG 13 TV Plus 127.8 or 13.2
WTVG 13 Weather 127.9 or 13.3
WNWO 24 (NBC) Toledo 126.7 or 24.1
WNWO Retro Television Network 126.22 or 24.2
WNWO 24 AmericaOne 126.8 or 24.3
WGTE 30 (PBS) Toledo 127.6 or 30.1
WGTE Create (PBS) 127.5 or 30.3
WUPW 36 (FOX) Toledo 125.2 or 36.1

silet, I dunno if this helps any. Here are Buckeye's QAM listings.

WGTE Family (PBS) 127.2 or 30.2
WTOL 11 24/7 Weather 115.12
WTO5 5 (The CW) Toledo 126.1 or 5.1
WTOL 11 (CBS) Toledo 124.1 or 11.1
WTVG 13 (ABC) Toledo 124.13 or 13.1
WTVG 13 TV Plus 127.8 or 13.2
WTVG 13 Weather 127.9 or 13.3
WNWO 24 (NBC) Toledo 126.7 or 24.1
WNWO Retro Television Network 126.22 or 24.2
WNWO 24 AmericaOne 126.8 or 24.3
WGTE 30 (PBS) Toledo 127.6 or 30.1
WGTE Create (PBS) 127.5 or 30.3
WUPW 36 (FOX) Toledo 125.2 or 36.1

yep that was it, thanks! i dont know why my tuner wouldn't find it by scanning, or wouldn't let me just type in 36.1. but i tuned to 125 and it found it, thanks again for the help

DirecTV subs in Toledo:

What regional sports nets do you get in HD, that carry the live games?
FOX Sports Net Detroit HD?
FOX Sports Net Ohio HD?
SportsTime Ohio HD?
Others?


Dish Network subs in Toledo:
What regional sports nets do you get in HD, that carry the live games?
FOX Sports Net Detroit HD?
FOX Sports Net Ohio HD?
SportsTime Ohio HD?
Others?


Had Directv about 5 years ago. Only would allow me to get Fox Sports Ohio as part of the basic program even though i am only a couple miles from the MI border unless I got the sports package with every Fox Sports Net. That is why I switched to Buckeye since they carry both FSN Ohio and FSN Detroit. Looked to switch to Dish last year and had the same exact issue as I did with Directv.

The White House wants your opinion on The DTV Delay ACT Bill
President Obama wants to hear what the public has to say, you can comment here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/dtv_delay_act/

I had no idea TWC had overlapping service areas with Buckeye. Where?

Perrysburg, too.

I quit TWC and moved back to Buckeye a few weeks ago.

The White House wants your opinion on The DTV Delay ACT Bill
President Obama wants to hear what the public has to say, you can comment here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/dtv_delay_act/Thank you for the link. They got my opinion. GET ON WITH IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!! Anyone who remains unprepared for the transition is apparently NOT watching TV anyway.

Well, I'm happy to say I'm no longer a TWC cable customer (still Roadrunner customer though). I had D* installed last Friday, and so far it's awesome. I had TWC DVR and the D* DVR hooked up to my two HDMI inputs and switched back and forth and I couldn't tell a bit of difference. They cost exactly the same amount, and for the extra quantity of HD, I dont think I'll be too upset even if it goes out in a rainstorm. We didn't have to run any extra coax thanks to the SWM. Single coax to the back of each box. Only modification we had to do inside was eliminate a splitter in the basement, and there was already a spare coax run that would reach. Ar's and Yours Satellite did an amazing job btw if anyone is looking for an installer they can trust. I'm really happy about the whole thing. Ok, done with my rambling.

Wanted to give you all an update. I love my D*. It's tons better than the TWC available out here. I've had it for 3 weeks, multiple heavy snows, and today's rainstorm. I lost it today for the first time during a storm, and it was only a bit pixellated for a minute or two during the worst of the downpours. Other than that, it held it's own through the entire storm. I was impressed. The quality of D*'s HD is great, and the quantity of HD is amazing. I have almost not watched any SD in the last 3 weeks, because I get all the channels I watch in HD now. I was very leary about switching, but I'm sooooo glad I did, and so is my wife. We're glad we used Ar's and Yours Satellite for our install as well.

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Toledo Mayor Carty has socked it to us all! He has sent a proposal of a local ordinance that would require regulation to all low voltage wiring. For example, what if you want to install a new home theater system with video cables and speaker wires in the walls??? You would need to request in writing for a low voltage electrical permit from the city, pay for said permit, hire a licensed electrical contractor to do the work, and have a city inspector check the work when complete. You can no longer install the equipment yourself if this thing passes. Want to run a LAN cable to your WII or DVR? Same deal, you pay for it... Are you a Ham Radio operator? Good luck putting your next antenna up!

Today, Feb 17th 2009 city Council moved proposed ordinance 83-09 to the Community and Neighborhood Development committee for review. A meeting will be held at 1PM Feb 18th 2009 at Council Chambers at One Government Center in downtown Toledo.

Speak up now and stop the freedoms of our hobby from being destroyed.

The members are:

Community & Neighborhood Development
Joe McNamara, Chair
Michael Ashford, Vice Chair
Wilma Brown
Phil Copeland
Mike Craig
George Sarantou (Alt.)
Lindsay Webb (Alt.)

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Toledo Mayor Carty has socked it to us all! He has sent a proposal of a local ordinance that would require regulation to all low voltage wiring. For example, what if you want to install a new home theater system with video cables and speaker wires in the walls??? You would need to request in writing for a low voltage electrical permit from the city, pay for said permit, hire a licensed electrical contractor to do the work, and have a city inspector check the work when complete. You can no longer install the equipment yourself if this thing passes. Want to run a LAN cable to your WII or DVR? Same deal, you pay for it... Are you a Ham Radio operator? Good luck putting your next antenna up!

Today, Feb 17th 2009 city Council moved proposed ordinance 83-09 to the Community and Neighborhood Development committee for review. A meeting will be held at 1PM Feb 18th 2009 at Council Chambers at One Government Center in downtown Toledo.

Speak up now and stop the freedoms of our hobby from being destroyed.

The members are:

Community & Neighborhood Development
Joe McNamara, Chair
Michael Ashford, Vice Chair
Wilma Brown
Phil Copeland
Mike Craig
George Sarantou (Alt.)
Lindsay Webb (Alt.)Thank you for posting this. I hope everyone here who is a City of Toledo resident as I am will join in voicing your opposition to this folly. Northwest Ohio is in economic ruin, our roads are barely driveable, jobs are fleeing this anti-business part of the country and Hizoner and the lap dog city council have nothing better to do with their time??!! Remember this nonsense come election day folks and throw everyone of these idiots out of office!

Buckeye To Boost HD With Switched Video

Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 2/22/2009 10:01:00 PM MT

Ohio's Buckeye CableSystem has selected the BigBand Networks switched digital video solution to expand high-definition services.

Buckeye's SDV deployment will be implemented across Motorola set-top boxes. The operator also plans to eventually use future capabilities of the SDV platform to deliver IP-based video.

"We looked at various options for optimization of our bandwidth and have chosen BigBand's SDV solution because it gives us an efficient means to better utilize our spectrum and to expand our HD content," Buckeye chief technology officer Joe Jensen said in a statement. "SDV will allow us to quickly regain bandwidth, helping us to execute our competitive strategy and expand HD services."

Buckeye, which has about 150,000 customers, is the largest cable firm in the Toledo, Ohio, area. The company is a member of the National Cable Television Cooperative, a programming and hardware buying cooperative that represents more than 1,100 independent cable operators.

BigBand claims its switched digital video system has been deployed or is being deployed by six of the top 10 cable operators in North America, passing over 20 million households. The video-equipment vendor announced a 76% jump in revenue for the fourth quarter of 2008 -- citing strong sales of SDV and related equipment -- while also disclosing that it laid off 46 employees, or about 10% of its current work force.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/179710-Buckeye_To_Boost_HD_With_Switched_Video.php

Maybe they could free up bandwidth by getting rid of their 70 or so analog stations. Rent or sell the converter boxes and then you can advertise a truely digital system like the satellite and IPTV have. They can't cost THAT much. They're one-way communication and coax A/V out only.

Maybe they could free up bandwidth by getting rid of their 70 or so analog stations. Rent or sell the converter boxes and then you can advertise a truely digital system like the satellite and IPTV have. They can't cost THAT much. They're one-way communication and coax A/V out only.

Well, that won't happen soon, since cable companies are required to supply analog to their customers for a couple more years I think. (Not sure about the exact date.) Or they have to supply converter boxes to all their customers with basic cable for free I believe, which would be cost prohibitive.

I would lose my beloved CBC if that is the case.

All sorts of other cable companies are doing it. It's just that they're the BIG ones (Comcast, Cox, etc.) and they can afford to do it. I don't think they HAVE to do anything.

Jeez, you guys sure love to support that crappy over-compressed Buckeye Cable.

A 60 foot tower with dual antennas yields, Toledo, Detroit, Cleveland in Digital.

No way, am I going to give them my money. Netflix with Blue Ray rentals and all the best local feeds in DTV for free blows Buckeye away.

Jeez, you guys sure love to support that crappy over-compressed Buckeye Cable.

Please provide evidence of this... Buckeye passes along the OTA signal untouched, if I remember correctly.


In addition, you forget not everyone can have a 60 foot tower at their homes.
Also I don't care how big your tower is you can't get History HD, Food HD, TNT HD, or hundreds of other channels I get...

Please provide evidence of this... Buckeye passes along the OTA signal untouched, if I remember correctly.


In addition, you forget not everyone can have a 60 foot tower at their homes.
Also I don't care how big your tower is you can't get History HD, Food HD, TNT HD, or hundreds of other channels I get...Amen! Not only can everyone not HAVE a 60 foot tower on their property, some of us don't WANT a 60 foot tower looming over our property thank you. Not exactly a landscaping item I care for.

ok now I am obsessed. Is anyone able to get CBC in HD in West Toledo using a boom antenna of some sort? Does Windsor broadcast CBC in HD?

ok now I am obsessed. Is anyone able to get CBC in HD in West Toledo using a boom antenna of some sort? Does Windsor broadcast CBC in HD?


Sadly, the answers to both questions are brutally simple: No and No.

Canada has FAR fewer OTA DTV transmitters, and are (a/o 3-2009) almost exclusive to the largest cities (e.g., Toronto, Montréal, Vancouver).

CBET is still not on the air in DTV (nor is any other Windsor transmitter). Even worse, there are rumors that with the severe economic downturn that their analog channel 9 transmitter may be on the chopping block as well:(

Sadly, the answers to both questions are brutally simple: No and No.

Canada has FAR fewer OTA DTV transmitters, and are (a/o 3-2009) almost exclusive to the largest cities (e.g., Toronto, Montréal, Vancouver).

CBET is still not on the air in DTV (nor is any other Windsor transmitter). Even worse, there are rumors that with the severe economic downturn that their analog channel 9 transmitter may be on the chopping block as well:(

That's sad to hear, even though we don't have it anymore. It is a great channel for kids. My daughters love that channel. One key factor of us leaving TWC going to D*.

Sadly, the answers to both questions are brutally simple: No and No.

Canada has FAR fewer OTA DTV transmitters, and are (a/o 3-2009) almost exclusive to the largest cities (e.g., Toronto, Montréal, Vancouver).

CBET is still not on the air in DTV (nor is any other Windsor transmitter). Even worse, there are rumors that with the severe economic downturn that their analog channel 9 transmitter may be on the chopping block as well:(

hmm looks like i am going to have to work on writing some letters to the proper people....this really stinks

hmm looks like i am going to have to work on writing some letters to the proper people....And who might that be? Inquiring minds want to know.

And who might that be? Inquiring minds want to know.

Well I think I will start with CBC and see what they say.

Well I think I will start with CBC and see what they say.Let me save you the trouble:

We appreciate your interest in CBC Television. CBC is currently broadcasting in over the air high definition in Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver. Beyond that, no further decisions have been made regarding further expansion as yet, since funding for such projects is not currently in place. Any further new transmitters would likely be placed in major centres of high population, but it's premature to speculate on possible locations for future transmitters at the moment, or on exactly when additional facilities might be installed. The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) has established a date of August 31, 2011 as the deadline to end analog TV transmission in Canada. Expansion projects will likely not be put in place until some time after the mandated shutdown takes effect. Thank you for writing to CBC.
CBC Audience RelationsSince this statement was made public, the already in progress CBC digital transmitter in Quebec City did go on line.

Windsor is approximatly the 15th largest metropolitan area in Canada. With only 5 CBC digital stations, there would have to be at least 10 others to go on line before Windsor got one.

Hello,

I would love some help. I live in Cincinnati, and my parents live in Toledo. When the PBS station went digital, they lost their TVGOS on the DVR. I am walking them through how to get it back, but I can't find any signals on the digital channels I have had them try (11.1,13.1,24.1,36.1,30.1)

Does anyone know if any stations are broadcasting the TVGOS info digitally? If so, what channel?

Is anyone's TVGOS working with an over the air tuner?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much!

Ken

Windsor is approximatly the 15th largest metropolitan area in Canada. With only 5 CBC digital stations, there would have to be at least 10 others to go on line before Windsor got one.

So, what happens for CBC viewers in Windsor/Essex/Southwest Ontario if analog 9 shuts off in 2011 with no replacement?

I presume CBC would still be on (local) cable and satellite, no? What about the CBC Windsor news operation...does it turn into a cable channel or go away?

So, what happens for CBC viewers in Windsor/Essex/Southwest Ontario if analog 9 shuts off in 2011 with no replacement?More from the CBC:

There will be no further CBC HD transmitters put in place before the 2011 deadline. When new projects will be undertaken following this date depends on funding which has yet to be provided.
CBC Audience Relations

I presume CBC would still be on (local) cable and satellite, no??In Canada, as long as the CBC is in business, they will be on cable & DBS. The Toronto feed serves as the national feed in locations where they do not have a local presence.

What about the CBC Windsor news operation...does it turn into a cable channel or go away?It would most likely go away, as the CBC has much bigger problems: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15946745&postcount=7223

Hello,

I would love some help. I live in Cincinnati, and my parents live in Toledo. When the PBS station went digital, they lost their TVGOS on the DVR. I am walking them through how to get it back, but I can't find any signals on the digital channels I have had them try (11.1,13.1,24.1,36.1,30.1)

Does anyone know if any stations are broadcasting the TVGOS info digitally? If so, what channel?

Is anyone's TVGOS working with an over the air tuner?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much!

Ken
Check this topic:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122914

Thanks so much Ken for that info. I am not sure what I would do without HNIC. Could Buckeye purchase CBC from another location like Toronto?

Thanks so much Ken for that info. I am not sure what I would do without HNIC. Could Buckeye purchase CBC from another location like Toronto?
No, the only reason Buckeye can put the CBC on their system now, is because they receive CBET with an antenna. If CBET goes off the air, that would be it.

The only other (regular) way to get HNIC, is to get a provider that has NHL Center Ice. Since Buckeye doesn't carry it, your best choice would be DirecTV. This applies to regular season games (both CBC Saturday games) and select first and second round playoff games only; later rounds in the playoffs are not included.

The final way to get CBC HNIC would be to subscribe to a Canadian DBS provider, either Star Choice or Bell TV. You would get a full CBC HD feed 24/7. You'd have to buy the hardware on line and have a Canadian billing address, which can be purchased from an address broker. All this is legal, but you do have to be aware the Canadian provider can't knowing sell the service to you; thus the address broker. Another way would be if you have any friends or relatives in Canada that would help you out. Send me a PM for more details.

It would most likely go away, as the CBC has much bigger problems: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15946745&postcount=7223

Yipes. I knew about the CHWI problems, but didn't realize the CBC was talking about retrenching operations to that degree.

This would truly be the end of an era, and it doesn't sound like CBC intends any over-air TV presence after 2011 in Windsor, even as a repeater for Toronto. I wonder if they'll still put in the planned FM replacements for 1550 AM, but without local operations.

As far as Channel 9 goes, well, if it doesn't stay on the air as a CBC station in any form, that'd presumably automatically bounce it off Buckeye Cablesystem at the time the analog signal goes away.

I hope it doesn't end up like that.

I've been in places in the US far, far away from where any terrestrial CBC TV signal was available, and seen CBC on cable from CBMT, Montréal (oddly, since I was nowhere near Montréal).
Is there any reason Buckeye would be unable to do what other American cable systems are already doing (though I am pessimistic that they would)?

I've been in places in the US far, far away from where any terrestrial CBC TV signal was available, and seen CBC on cableWhere?

You were probably somewhere near the border, in an area that had a repeater.

I personally noted the presence of CBMT on Charter Cable in Manistique, MI, where I vacation in the summer (Manistique is about 110 miles from Sault Ste. Marie and even farther away from Thunder Bay).

The wikipedia page about CBMT has a chapter on their audience outside of Canada, but does not have a list of systems that carry it.

What is interesting is the seeming total lack of local commercials on CBMT. One summer vacation, the only sponsors were a live english language stage theatre and an African music festival.

Anyone know of any specials buckeye is running right now?

To all of you concerned with losing Hockey Night in Canada, the best solution at this time is to get a package with either NHL Center Ice or the NHL Network/HD. The NHL Network will continue to carry HNIC on Saturday nights.

To all of you concerned with losing Hockey Night in Canada, the best solution at this time is to get a package with either NHL Center Ice or the NHL Network/HD. The NHL Network will continue to carry HNIC on Saturday nights.

Thanks Rowdy, but I heard that it is US announcers, not Canadian. And the real question is, does Don Cherry come on after the first period?

Thanks Rowdy, but I heard that it is US announcers, not Canadian. And the real question is, does Don Cherry come on after the first period?

I think you get the entire CBC game intact, but I'm checking to be sure.

And after the regular season is over, only select first and second round playoff games are available.

I think you get the entire CBC game intact, but I'm checking to be sure.According to those who sub to NHL CI, you get everything except the Canadian commercials.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1060495&page=10

And after the regular season is over, only select first and second round playoff games are available.In addition to NHL CI games, Versus will pick up the occasional CBC HD game, usually the West Coast / late games.

Anyone else having audio issues on WTVG tonight? Scrubs only has surround channels. No center channel. No voices whatsoever.

I see buckeye-cable is raising its price again approx. 5%. They pointed out in their flyer that came with the bill however that if you pay a year ahead of time
they will credit back the difference each month so you won't have to pay the increase. Do you think this is a good deal. Should I take a loan out for $1500 and pay a year in advance? What do you think?

I see buckeye-cable is raising its price again approx. 5%. They pointed out in their flyer that came with the bill however that if you pay a year ahead of time
they will credit back the difference each month so you won't have to pay the increase. Do you think this is a good deal. Should I take a loan out for $1500 and pay a year in advance? What do you think?

In addition to locking in last year's rates, Buckeye is apparently giving its pay-in-advance customers another $150 in discounts, including a free month of HBO and Starz, free VOD movies and the mysterious "MORE!"

I'm thinking about doing it myself.

Maybe.

So is anyone thinking of moving to satellite services at all. I'd consider ATT U-Verse but they are not in my area yet. I realize the increase is only a few bucks more a month, but it seems like I just saw an increase a few months ago (maybe more). I am tired of being nickel and dimed by all these companies, and buckeye (while getting better) simply doesn't have the HD offerings the others do... decisions decisions...

I guess I had better do the math and factor in the intro savings of the current packages out there, shame is I really do like Buckeye and there service -- but it seems my bill has gone up nearly 10 bucks a month now over the past year or two. And really, if I pay buckeye for a year up front (asides from the measly interest rates I'd garner on that money) why give that person an abatement from the increase and not the normal joe that pays there bill every month (almost like a contract). Sometimes, I think companies take customers for granted and only offer the deals to the "new" customer... oh well, my rant is over.

Hey JDC,
I feel your pain. I was being sarcastic in my post above. If I have to take a loan out it won't be to watch tv or browse the internet. Overall I'm satisfied with buckeye cable,( I have bex express 8.0 and cable with HD dvr ). paying about $122 a month after the increase. I know that the economy is bad. Buckeye claims thier programming cost went up 12%. How does the customer know this is the true amount? I don't know. I just thought that flyer that came with this months bill was somewhat an insult to their customers offering to "let" us pay a year in advance to forgo the price increase. Say what. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way I'm not sure. Everyone's got their hand in our pocket now a days and I'm tired of it. Increases, fee's fee's, taxes taxes. Leave me the f**k alone. You know what I mean vern?:mad:

I am tired of being nickel and dimed by all these companies,

Just an FYI, Buckeye has a list of price increases with all providers...all seem to around the same. Don't remember the exact rates (email them if you want), but overall it's one or the other getting our dimes. MIHO, if it's that close, I usually go with a local business.
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Anyone here got the Buckeye-TEL phone service? I'm looking into that vip bundle they have maybe to save some bucks. I got At&t right now. Is there any pro's or con's with buckeye's phone service? If you got it now are you happy with it? No issues? Thanks for any input!

We have had the bundle for about 3 years, and so far it's been trouble free. The modem they supply has a rechargeable battery so if power is lost you still have phone service.

Is WTOL down for anyone else? D* has a sign up saying its a local problem. Luckily they are letting us watch the UNC/Okla. game on the national CBS feed.

We have had the bundle for about 3 years, and so far it's been trouble free. The modem they supply has a rechargeable battery so if power is lost you still have phone service.

Thanks for the info:)

Does anyone know if Time Warner has HD PPV? And not the "old-Adelphia" TWC but the TWC that's been around the area since around '99 or 2000. One of my friends in Genoa swears that we can get WrestleMania 25 this sunday in HD, but I think it could just be a deceptive guide mislabeling. It would be nice if Buckeye could get HD PPV....

I personally noted the presence of CBMT on Charter Cable in Manistique, MI, where I vacation in the summer (Manistique is about 110 miles from Sault Ste. Marie and even farther away from Thunder Bay).

I have no idea why, but CBMT/Montreal does have historic carriage on a number of systems in the eastern Lower Peninsula of Michigan. I've never seen it, but a quick runthrough of Zap2It lineups for systems in that area definitely shows CBMT.

I don't remember if it was only Charter carrying it, or if some of the area Comcast systems have it, too. I'm pretty sure it doesn't make it as far south as Flint/Saginaw/Bay City.

I wonder how Charter gets the CBMT signal. Neither of the CBC local outlets you mention (SSM and Thunder Bay) are rebroadcasting CBMT. The TB CBC outlet is actually a privately owned "twin stick" (CKPR) with a CTV sister station.

I'm wondering, if it really wanted to do so, if Buckeye Cablesystem could get a similar feed of CBC afer analog 9 goes off. I suspect they wouldn't bother going to the trouble, and that CBET is only on the system because it's considered one of the Detroit market stations.

I would almost assume that CBMT is on some Canadian satellite that happens to have a footprint that runs into the Northern USA.
I believe that some cable systems in the Northeast US carry it as well (I wonder if they ever "sim sub").
CKSH (9, Sherbrooke, QC, SRC-owned) is also carried by some cable systems in the Northeast that have a Francophone presence.

And yes, I agree that cable systems in MI/OH would not be adding CBET to their lineups if it were'nt already there. Many years ago, CKLW-TV was THE independent station in the area. Even after WKBD went on, CKLW was very popular, as it would be into the early 1970's before everybody had UHF on most of their sets. Channel 9's popularity did not end with the change to CBET, rather it waned gradually. It still has a small loyal core of fans.

Does anyone know if Time Warner has HD PPV? And not the "old-Adelphia" TWC but the TWC that's been around the area since around '99 or 2000. One of my friends in Genoa swears that we can get WrestleMania 25 this sunday in HD, but I think it could just be a deceptive guide mislabeling. It would be nice if Buckeye could get HD PPV....

Yes TWC has HD PPV and on demand. We just recently got about 40 HD channels and they continue to add more each week, it's about time too. For the longest time we only had about 3 HD channels (not including the OTA ones).

does anyone know if buckeye has any plans for an HD only package? i'd gladly get it, because i hate watching crappy sd signals on my hdtv. so, i've given up on their cable service altogether.

As an ABC owned and operated station, WTVG-DT will soon add a second 720p HD channel, Live Well HD. Live Well HD will replace ABC Plus on 13-2 (19-2).

Once Live Well HD goes live, I would appreciate any and all comments regarding the HD image quality of both Live Well HD and the main HD channel ABC HD.

As an ABC owned and operated station, WTVG-DT will soon add a second 720p HD channel, Live Well HD. Live Well HD will replace ABC Plus on 13-2 (19-2).

Once Live Well HD goes live, I would appreciate any and all comments regarding the HD image quality of both Live Well HD and the main HD channel ABC HD.
Live Well is now on 13-2 (19-2), but in 480i.

All the HD LIL channels on D* have been breaking up for me tonight. Showing a mid 80's signal, so no problem there. All Nat HD channels are fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Toledo HD LIL from D*?

Live Well is now on 13-2 (19-2), but in 480i.

And it's apparently 720p on KABC in Los Angeles, judging by the large number of complaints and screenshots in the L.A. local reception thread...

Oh, confirming our earlier talk here (springing from the shaky future of CBET/9 Windsor and the prospect of Buckeye being able to get another CBC station's feed if it was sold off):

I've gotten confirmation that CBMT/Montreal is indeed carried on Charter Cable's systems in Midland/Bay City and further north in the eastern Lower Peninsula...as of a week ago.

It is apparently missing south of those two cities (i.e. it's not on Saginaw's Charter system).

As I pointed out above, if CBET's CBC feed went away, Buckeye probably would just let it die, and not pursue other feeds (if they even can!). But CBMT gets to Charter in Midland/Bay City SOMEHOW...

Thanks Inundated.

Could you keep me posted of any new details that you hear. CBC said that American cable providers can buy into their feed, but my guess is Buckeye won't do it.

All the HD LIL channels on D* have been breaking up for me tonight. Showing a mid 80's signal, so no problem there. All Nat HD channels are fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Toledo HD LIL from D*?

DirecTV in Toledo Ohio had problems with local into locals HD all night into at least 5am this morning.

DirecTV in Toledo Ohio had problems with local into locals HD all night into at least 5am this morning.

Everything cleared up for me right when Leno started, never saw any issues after that. My Lost recording sure was a mess though, very dissapointing. Tx for the response.

I hope WTOL is on this list...

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/06/waiting-for-hd-syndication-on-your-local-affiliates-cbs-warner/

Does anyone know when the news channels are going to start broadcasting the news in HD? I know that WTVG has the 13 ABC boxes on the side of the screen which I guess it better than just black bars but it still is just upconverted HD. Time Warner cable no longer carries CBET CBC either as of January I think.

I hope WTOL is on this list...

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/06/waiting-for-hd-syndication-on-your-local-affiliates-cbs-warner/

Toledo is (roughly) TV market #73, so it should be on the list.

Does anyone know when the news channels are going to start broadcasting the news in HD?

I heard that WTOL had no capital for HD in 2009. Now not sure if that was news hd or other hardware for the on air operations. That's what I heard anyway...from a good source, but things can change. Not much interested in seeing local crime stories in HD. Long as the locals carry syndication & prime time in HD, I will be happy.
VE

WTVG 13.2 is now broadcasting Living Well in 480i.

I heard that WTOL had no capital for HD in 2009. Now not sure if that was news hd or other hardware for the on air operations. That's what I heard anyway...from a good source, but things can change.

I'm sure all that money they blew on new flatscreens for the news set could've been put to a better use.

WTVG 13.2 is now broadcasting Living Well in 480i.
Yes, since 4/27. See my earlier post.

Just checked out Buckeye's HD VOD.:) Tried a couple "Freebies"...thought they looked good. Perfect PQ?...no...but totally acceptable. Come on...it's basically a streaming file. Anyway, they have about 36 movies available. Will have to try one of those in the next few days.
VidEditor

Does anyone else have some stuttering problems with their HD Box? Example, I watched the fight on Sunday night and it seems like there are constant pauses during the fight. The station was Versus at 9 pm. It happens sometimes too when I watch hockey games on there and fox sports Detroit.

Justanothername,

Sounds like you have a signal strength problem. I'd get Buckeye or whoever your service provider is to come take a look at it.

Does anyone else have some stuttering problems with their HD Box? Example, I watched the fight on Sunday night and it seems like there are constant pauses during the fight. The station was Versus at 9 pm. It happens sometimes too when I watch hockey games on there and fox sports Detroit.

I had this also... I have a great signal, in fact BCS even put in a pad to reduce it. Thought it might be intermittent... will have my buddy look into it.

VidEditor

I had this also... I have a great signal, in fact BCS even put in a pad to reduce it. Thought it might be intermittent... will have my buddy look into it.

VidEditor

I notice it most of the time in hockey or fights...I watch moves in 720p on my tv but never have this problem no matter how action packed the movie is.

Thanks for checking in to it.

WTVG-DT has officially moved to VHF 13. Analog 13 is off the air, and the previous digital channel UHF 19 is no longer in use.

For those using a DTV receiver, you may need to rescan to reacquire WTVG-DT.

Fox Toledo WUPW has been on its DTV channel since 2003 thus it will remain in DTV carrier 46. WTVG and WTOL both went back to their analog channel assignments. WGTE WNWO and WLMB are not moving.

SO here is the breakdown:

WTOL DTV 11
WTVG DTV 13
WGTE DTV 29
WUPW DTV 46
WNWO DTV 49
WLMB DTV 5

There are a number of us out in Fulton County that have noticed a serious problem with 11 and 13 since the changeover. The signal strength for the two now that they've moved the digital signal to their original analog channels seems to have diminished. I can still get enough of a signal from 13 to get consistent picture, but 11 isn't stable any longer. Were they using a different, more powerful transmitter for DTV when they were running both and then scaled back when they switched it? Very frustrating...

is anyone able to transfer recorded shows to your pc over firewire with a Pace DVR? Last year I had a Motorola box and was able to capture shows over firewire perfectly. Now I just got a Pace 778 box and am having a hard time capturing. Using the Capdvhs program recommended by this forum, I cant capture any HD programming, the program keeps crashing. I read this is a problem with some boxes, and the only way around it is to dump the raw file coming off the box with a command line tool. I tried this and the resulting recording is off sync and very pixelated. Could this be a problem with my specific box? Or did buckeye do something to stop this on the new pace boxes? Would this be a legitimate reason to take it back to buckeye and ask for a replacement?

is anyone able to transfer recorded shows to your pc over firewire with a Pace DVR? Last year I had a Motorola box and was able to capture shows over firewire perfectly. Now I just got a Pace 778 box and am having a hard time capturing. Using the Capdvhs program recommended by this forum, I cant capture any HD programming, the program keeps crashing. I read this is a problem with some boxes, and the only way around it is to dump the raw file coming off the box with a command line tool. I tried this and the resulting recording is off sync and very pixelated. Could this be a problem with my specific box? Or did buckeye do something to stop this on the new pace boxes? Would this be a legitimate reason to take it back to buckeye and ask for a replacement?

I am still using the old Moto boxes for this exact reason. Have not tried the Pace bxes but since being able to record HD by firewire is a touch and go experience I would not be surprised if the Pace boxes will not allow it. Just ask for a swap if they have any of the older Motos. THe customer service people will not have any idea what you are talking about if you raise the recording issue.

Fox Toledo WUPW has been on its DTV channel since 2003 thus it will remain in DTV carrier 46. WTVG and WTOL both went back to their analog channel assignments. WGTE WNWO and WLMB are not moving.

SO here is the breakdown:

WTOL DTV 11
WTVG DTV 13
WGTE DTV 29
WUPW DTV 46
WNWO DTV 49
WLMB DTV 5

As noted in the first reference post in this topic.

I heard that stations will increase power in two weeks. Not sure if this is correct...??? Increase in power from what I heard will be a 15-20% noticeable effect.
Steve P. (MV400) can you confirm this???

I was told the Pace boxes only the Sata connections work. I have not tried anything with it yet.

I was also told that if you try and plug in an eSata drive into it and record to it, that once you take it over to your PC, that files become pretty much worthless. I am sure their is a way to decrypt it...unfortunately, I am guessing these boxes are not as wide spread.

As noted in the first reference post in this topic.
On this past Tuesday I was in Bryan Ohio.This party had ch 13 Toledo on the set(Time-Warner Cable).The pic was dropping out badly,is ch 13 still operating on UHF ch 19? if so that explains there problem.WISE-DT in Fort Wayne is also on the same freq.The FCC website shows a construction permit to return to ch 13,has the move been made yet.

On this past Tuesday I was in Bryan Ohio.This party had ch 13 Toledo on the set(Time-Warner Cable).The pic was dropping out badly,is ch 13 still operating on UHF ch 19? if so that explains there problem.WISE-DT in Fort Wayne is also on the same freq.The FCC website shows a construction permit to return to ch 13,has the move been made yet.

Yes, they made the move back to 13 on June 12th as referenced above.

Does Time Warner offer service to Bryan? I thought they had their own city-run cable operation.

Yes, they made the move back to 13 on June 12th as referenced above.

Does Time Warner offer service to Bryan? I thought they had their own city-run cable operation.
I thought I saw T-W vans around town? maybe the dropout was ch 13-dt from Indianapolis off the back of the antennas?? just a thought

Buckeye Cable is really starting to irritate me. Their HD service absolutely stinks compared to Dish or DirecTV. I'd like to stay with a local company but they don't even offer Discovery Channel in HD. I called many times and asked when we would be getting Discover, Spike, SciFi. They don't know, which means never for all intents and purposes.

So a question to the group overall - what have you found to be the overall best solution for broadband internet, HDTV, and phone? (I do not need a land line).

Has anyone heard anything about Uverse lately? There was a big discussion at work today in my department about Buckeye and the price and people want to compare it to Uverse. I am just wondering when it will be in the area where I possibly could at least get a quote on it.




A buddy of mine dumped Buckeye's VIP for ATT Uverse and loves it. The HD offering is where Buckeye NEEDS TO BE but is not.

Buckeye Cable is really starting to irritate me. Their HD service absolutely stinks compared to Dish or DirecTV. I'd like to stay with a local company but they don't even offer Discovery Channel in HD. I called many times and asked when we would be getting Discover, Spike, SciFi. They don't know, which means never for all intents and purposes.

So a question to the group overall - what have you found to be the overall best solution for broadband internet, HDTV, and phone? (I do not need a land line).

It has to depend on your area I believe. The 120$ a month that I am paying to buckeye is starting to become pretty old in the summer time. TV is terrible, the Indians are terrible, and I am barely using my broadband at home. I think the only reason I am keeping them all right now is because I do not want to get hit with a service charge since I know I will need it for football season.

The solution I have found for phone is Skype.

A buddy of mine dumped Buckeye's VIP for ATT Uverse and loves it. The HD offering is where Buckeye NEEDS TO BE but is not.

Is Uverse available in all areas of toledo yet? As far as I knew, it is only available to the surrounding areas...but I only am aware by hearsay and product not being available on ATT's website.

It has to depend on your area I believe. The 120$ a month that I am paying to buckeye is starting to become pretty old in the summer time. TV is terrible, the Indians are terrible, and I am barely using my broadband at home. I think the only reason I am keeping them all right now is because I do not want to get hit with a service charge since I know I will need it for football season.

The solution I have found for phone is Skype.



Is Uverse available in all areas of toledo yet? As far as I knew, it is only available to the surrounding areas...but I only am aware by hearsay and product not being available on ATT's website. The only thing that will ever get Buckeye's programming and pricing where it should be is competition. In general, I am happy with their service (I have a VIP package) but I am a bit tired of paying nearly $200/month - and I have NO premium programming such as HBO, Showtime, etc. I very much dislike the fact that they charge high dollars for their cable boxes - which I need for each TV because of the "premium" HD programming I subscribe to. Premium as in Food Network, HGTV, Nat Geo, etc. If I could dump the boxes, I'd save nearly $50 monthly. Yes, I know I could buy TiVo HD boxes but then I'd have to pay Buckeye $100 per cable card for the installation (which I can easily do myself) and a monthly fee for each cable card, then the monthly TiVo subscription fee if I wanted the TiVo service...........I've run the numbers and for me the payback would take about 6 years. By then, I hope technology brings many other players to the marketplace and gives Buckeye some sorely needed competition.

The only thing that will ever get Buckeye's programming and pricing where it should be is competition. In general, I am happy with their service (I have a VIP package) but I am a bit tired of paying nearly $200/month - and I have NO premium programming such as HBO, Showtime, etc. I very much dislike the fact that they charge high dollars for their cable boxes - which I need for each TV because of the "premium" HD programming I subscribe to. Premium as in Food Network, HGTV, Nat Geo, etc. If I could dump the boxes, I'd save nearly $50 monthly. Yes, I know I could buy TiVo HD boxes but then I'd have to pay Buckeye $100 per cable card for the installation (which I can easily do myself) and a monthly fee for each cable card, then the monthly TiVo subscription fee if I wanted the TiVo service...........I've run the numbers and for me the payback would take about 6 years. By then, I hope technology brings many other players to the marketplace and gives Buckeye some sorely needed competition.

I am totally in the same boat. Its not that I dislike Buckeye cable and do appreciate the consistency, but to me it feels like we are paying a pretty high premium and they do not want to listen and get channels that we want. I know someone here was begging for USA Networks because of WWF....I would say that would be a pretty big number in toledo. However, they are not communicating with their customer base so my guess there is no talk.

Lately it just appears to me the only thing I truly need HD programming for is Big Ten, NFL network, FSD, STO and Versus - although would love it on CBC....I just don't know if I can continue to justify the cost. I currently have the 8mb line, but I am beginning to feel that is almost over kill anymore. When it was 5mb, it was very useful. 2mb is not quite enough. I wish buckeye would offer more options similar to what other providers offer. I do not want to pay for the 45$ premium package which I only watch one station on that is seasonal. I want to pay 35 bucks for my box and the HD Channels I have right now and that is it. I want to pay 35$ for an 5mb connection instead of 45$ for an 8mb.

I really do wish competition would come here because maybe the would listen. I know that they are afraid of AT&T....probably because of all the years of over charging their monopoly here.

...I know someone here was begging for USA Networks because of WWF....

That would be me, and technically it's WWE;). A lot of people I know in Genoa have FINALLY ditched their crap TWC for DirecTV. I can't blame them, and I have seriously thought of joining them. One concern I have though is that I do a lot of online gaming and the 6MB DSL speed might not be enough. I really do like Buckeye, especially for internet, but I want more HD channels.

I recently moved to the Toledo area and signed up with Buckeye CableSystem. I have a couple of questions that I thought you HDTV "experts" might be able to help me out:

I get BuckeyeCableSystem with the HD DVR in the living room TV. I get their HDTV Basic and Plus packs. That TV is working fine and great HD quality. However, I recently purchased an HDTV for another room, and sadly I cannot get the same HD channels. I called Buckeye Cable, and they basically gave me two options: either I get another HD DVR (and pay the large monthly fee) or get a CableCard (nominal $3 monthly fee, but a ridiculous $100 installation fee).

I find my options with Buckeye Cable as irritating, to say the least; I don't need the VOD or DVR features on the alternate TV.

My questions: Is there another way I could get the channels I already pay for without a box from the cable provider?

Does anyone have a listing of the local broadcast channels available via Buckeye Cable on an HDTV without a box? e.g., "WTOL is channel 124-1".

Thanks,

Jason

I recently moved to the Toledo area and signed up with Buckeye CableSystem. I have a couple of questions that I thought you HDTV "experts" might be able to help me out:

I get BuckeyeCableSystem with the HD DVR in the living room TV. I get their HDTV Basic and Plus packs. That TV is working fine and great HD quality. However, I recently purchased an HDTV for another room, and sadly I cannot get the same HD channels. I called Buckeye Cable, and they basically gave me two options: either I get another HD DVR (and pay the large monthly fee) or get a CableCard (nominal $3 monthly fee, but a ridiculous $100 installation fee).


Don't they have a normal HD cable box non-DVR? Its probably not cheaper by much, but 100 bucks installation is ridiculous (and I've heard many horror story in these boards of the cable cards being hard to get working). Honestly, if they can't work something out with you I would look at Dish/DirectTv or ATT if available. I share the same feelings as many here that for the price I am paying is out of line with the HD offerings (which is all I care about), add in 2MB internet and a DVR and my bill is 120 month... I love the service and knowing its local but thats it. If I were not trying to sell my house, I would have switched to satellite already... Oh well... Good luck.

My questions: Is there another way I could get the channels I already pay for without a box from the cable provider?

Does anyone have a listing of the local broadcast channels available via Buckeye Cable on an HDTV without a box? e.g., "WTOL is channel 124-1".

Thanks,

Jason

There is a listing available on buckeye's website.
http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/lineup/lineups/hd-nobox-channels.pdf

For me, after I tuned to the oddball channel 124-1, my tv learned it and i could simply tune to 11-1 after that.

I have a Panasonic HDTV and had Buckete install a cable card. Works great except it costs $100 for them to install it.

I have a Panasonic HDTV and had Buckete install a cable card. Works great except it costs $100 for them to install it.

100 bucks, did they actually have to do something or just plug it in and activate it? Unless they are running new lines in the house I can't see how they can justify 100 bucks...

Maybe it's me but it sure seems like Buckeye has forgotten all about HD. They haven't added anything in ages. I think it's been at least 6 months give or take :(

100 bucks, did they actually have to do something or just plug it in and activate it? Unless they are running new lines in the house I can't see how they can justify 100 bucks...Nope. All they do is plug the card into the slot and call the tech back at the office with the pertinent numbers that appear on the screen. The tech authorizes the card and away you go. In my case, they sent three different techs on three different days - you know how much I loved having to stay home and wait for them each time - and none of techs at my home or back at Buckeye Central could make it work. In disgust, I called and demanded to speak with someone other than a front line tech - someone with Cable Card knowledge. She and I had it up and running in minutes. I no longer have that set and my current set is not CableCard ready - and that was my intention. There is no way I'm going to pay Buckeye another $100 per CC for installation. I believe it's a rip off that the FCC should come down hard on Buckeye for. As for the difference in price for an HD set top box and an HD DVR set top box - it's $5 per month per HD DVR box. As I stated before, the only thing that will bring down Buckeye's prices is competition - something that the Block boys have been successful in keeping out of town thus far.

Maybe it's me but it sure seems like Buckeye has forgotten all about HD. They haven't added anything in ages. I think it's been at least 6 months give or take :(

Wow really? Time Warner Cable just RECENTLY added about 40 HD channels a few months ago and they seem to add a few more every month. It was long overdue too, before they added the new HD channels we had about 5.

Maybe it's me but it sure seems like Buckeye has forgotten all about HD. They haven't added anything in ages. I think it's been at least 6 months give or take :(

BCS has two more coming aug/sept. one is Travel Channel HD...forget the other.

anyone else out in oregon? hoping all of these trucks putting up lines are for u-verse so we can some options here. anyone know if this is the case and timing?

anyone else out in oregon? hoping all of these trucks putting up lines are for u-verse so we can some options here. anyone know if this is the case and timing?

Start looking for VRAD's:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=vrad&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS325US325&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

A VRAD is the box AT&T U-verse uses in each neighborhood, approximately within 3000'-3500' of your residence.

from the July/August newsletter.

* Coming August 18
-France 24, channel 265
-ESPN Deportes, channel 277 (moved to Digital Basic)

* Coming September 1
-Travel Channel HD, channel 656
-QVC HD, channel 628


I can dig the Travel Channel HD, but QVC HD --really they are going to use precious HD bandwidth for QVC???? How about Discovery HD or something...

Whatever, at least we are still getting some more HD, but still no where near satellite offerings.

AAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Two lousy additions??? WHERE ARE USA AND "I REFUSE TO CALL IT" SYFY????? I guess they WANT me to switch to D*/E*!!! Oh and it appears that those SOBs are relocating ESPN Classic to the Digital Basic Tier. Not too big of a deal to me but I'm sure some people won't be happy about it.

from the July/August newsletter.

* Coming August 18
-France 24, channel 265
-ESPN Deportes, channel 277 (moved to Digital Basic)

* Coming September 1
-Travel Channel HD, channel 656
-QVC HD, channel 628


I can dig the Travel Channel HD, but QVC HD --really they are going to use precious HD bandwidth for QVC???? How about Discovery HD or something...

Whatever, at least we are still getting some more HD, but still no where near satellite offerings.France 24? Really? There's REALLY a demand for this?? Somehow I don't think so. Sounds like the Block Boys just adding some near worthless HD channel so they can claim "Hey! Look! We added more HD programming!"

Start looking for VRAD's:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=vrad&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS325US325&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

A VRAD is the box AT&T U-verse uses in each neighborhood, approximately within 3000'-3500' of your residence.They can park one in my backyard if they want! I'll take very good care of it for them. Anything to bring some much needed competition to town.

France 24? Really? There's REALLY a demand for this?? Somehow I don't think so. Sounds like the Block Boys just adding some near worthless HD channel so they can claim "Hey! Look! We added more HD programming!"

France 24 isn't going to be in HD.

Seriously, they are going to try to advertise they are adding 2 stations in HD and one of them being QVC. I am sure some will like the travel channel.....but really? QVC?

Well if they can add France 24 then there is no reason they can't look into CBC.

I have friends @ BCS...Here is what I know.
If these parent networks would stop trying to tie in additional contract talks with channels that already are in Toledo, there would be 4-6 additional HD channels from each network. In order to get HD channels x,y,& z... You need to re-sign an unpopular channel. Then they want to say where that channel will live, basic, digital, etc. Sounds like holding channels hostage to me. That additional channel requirements cause other issues (conflict with previous contract or other channel contracts). So BCS is trying...their hands just seem to be tied a bit.
VidEditor

You would be surprised how many QVC watchers there are!!!

You would be surprised how many QVC watchers there are!!!

Always enjoyed the way they try and sell TV's...on TV. "Just look at the picture..it's spectacular!!!" Could there be any worse way to shop for a TV?

Well I think I'm gonna leave Buckeye and give Time Warner a try. I'll only be losing CW in HD and will gain about 8 others. Plus they recently reorganized everything to be more spread out [like D*/E*]. For the first year I could have 2 HD-DVRs and 15MB internet and it will still be $30 less than Buckeye.

Well I think I'm gonna leave Buckeye and give Time Warner a try. I'll only be losing CW in HD and will gain about 8 others. Plus they recently reorganized everything to be more spread out [like D*/E*]. For the first year I could have 2 HD-DVRs and 15MB internet and it will still be $30 less than Buckeye.

I don't blame you. I think what makes me so angry about buckeye is the fact they charge you for the boxes.

I have friends @ BCS...Here is what I know.
If these parent networks would stop trying to tie in additional contract talks with channels that already are in Toledo, there would be 4-6 additional HD channels from each network. In order to get HD channels x,y,& z... You need to re-sign an unpopular channel. Then they want to say where that channel will live, basic, digital, etc. Sounds like holding channels hostage to me. That additional channel requirements cause other issues (conflict with previous contract or other channel contracts). So BCS is trying...their hands just seem to be tied a bit.
VidEditor

Here is the thing....we are paying more money towards a cable company who has a monopoly is this market than most are paying in cities like Cinci, Cleveland, and Columbus. As much as I do like the personal attention, I don't need all the crappy channels that I get for the cost of them. Do I care about QVC? No. Do I care about the other channels coming in? No. I really wish that since they are a small market company that they would specialize towards me. I want to only pay for the channels that I watch. I don't want to pay for the analog stations anymore. The only one I care about is CBC during hockey season and that is gone next year. I only want to pay for high definition. High definition should not be 45$ + 17$ for a DVR that I do not even use.

Internet connection is terribly over priced too. There is no reason someone should have to pay 45$ for 8mb. This is a monopoly and they should pay.

This is a monopoly and they should pay.

OK... :confused: Tired of the monopoly talk...there are plenty of options, more now than ever. Paying for individual custom channel setups will never happen. It's been proven that the cost will be outrageous. Not to mention the networks would never go for that. They want to re-negotiate ALL channels in their family every time a cable co. wants to add just one channel.
I agree with you on the HD only choice though. That would be a great option for a second or third HDTV setup.
VidEditor

OK... :confused: Tired of the monopoly talk...there are plenty of options, more now than ever. Paying for individual custom channel setups will never happen. It's been proven that the cost will be outrageous. Not to mention the networks would never go for that. They want to re-negotiate ALL channels in their family every time a cable co. wants to add just one channel.
I agree with you on the HD only choice though. That would be a great option for a second or third HDTV setup.
VidEditorWith all due respect VidEditor, in Toledo proper, what other CABLE options are there? You are correct about a la carte options - it will never happen - regardless of the chest pounding by politicians looking for your vote(s). But, now that HDTV is the "norm", it simply should not cost what it does. Anything more than the basic HDTV channels and you are looking at a $13/month high def box for every HDTV in your home.

OK... :confused: Tired of the monopoly talk...there are plenty of options, more now than ever. Paying for individual custom channel setups will never happen. It's been proven that the cost will be outrageous. Not to mention the networks would never go for that. They want to re-negotiate ALL channels in their family every time a cable co. wants to add just one channel.
I agree with you on the HD only choice though. That would be a great option for a second or third HDTV setup.
VidEditor

I know...it will never work....

But these boxes are just plain ridiculous in cost. I don't get to use one of my TV's to the fullest extent because I don't want to pay another 204$ a year for HD on a bedroom TV.

If things don't start changing, buckeye better watch out. The first thing people cut is the fat off their cable bill. This will allow other companies to move in as people will be looking for cheaper rates.

There are plenty of other options in this city right now for cable? Please direct me. I live in zip code 43612 and would love to see some of these other options that are available to me.

There are plenty of other options in this city right now for cable? ...would love to see some of these other options that are available to me.

Hey Guys...I never said "cable only"...Not so sure other non-satellite co. will move in anytime soon though. Look how long it's taken U-Verse to move in.
Problem is that any of us here...high-end techo nerds (if you will)... are unique. We want top-end video/audio now. But until the SD digital channels start going away in clusters, HD will have to co-exist. HD is really not the norm yet, just Digital transmission.
Have any of you written into the local stations, asking where their HD programming is? Not necessary local news, that will take some cash, owners are trying to pay out the transmission bills first. But what about some of the syndicated programs that are avail in HD. Wheel, Jepordey, Oprah. The infa-structure should be there or close since DTV has come & gone.
Frankly, there are channels I'd like to see, but until the majority of programming on those are HD. I am ok. Of course I sit in front of monitors editing all day anyway, and on weekends in a HDTV sports truck. Guess I watch less TV @ home than you all.
I have had HD editing capability for two years now and no local stations will insert HD spots. Actually BCS is getting closer to local HD insertion than the broadcast stations.
So I recommend you send just as many letters or e-mails to all the national networks you'd like to see here in Toledo. Tell them to stop adding "pork-barrels" (is that the political term?) to all their HD contracts.
Sorry for the long winded hot air... Hope I am not that far out of context!
VE

...... Look how long it's taken U-Verse to move in..........And have they really moved in?? They aren't available in Toledo proper yet are they? HD is really not the norm yet, just Digital transmission. Good point.
Have any of you written into the local stations, asking where their HD programming is? ...Yes, I have. But what about some of the syndicated programs that are avail in HD. Wheel, Jeopardy, Oprah. (Oprah! :eek:)The infa-structure should be there or close since DTV has come & gone....
Actually BCS is getting closer to local HD insertion than the broadcast stations. Interesting.
So I recommend you send just as many letters or e-mails to all the national networks you'd like to see here in Toledo. Tell them to stop adding "pork-barrels" (is that the political term?) to all their HD contracts. Never thought of it.
Sorry for the long winded hot air... Hope I am not that far out of context!
VE Not at all. Good points, good info. I do find it hard to believe that such popular shows as Wheel and Jeopardy are not presented in HD locally.

We do understand where you are coming from Videditor. And like most here, I am pretty happy with Buckeye. I just feel that when the cable bill becomes my most expensive bill, that I have to look at my own fat and say is it worth it? Why are we still charged a premium price if we don't watch premium TV.

I am not sure why lots of shows like Wheel of Fortune are not in HD. 1080/720p are going to be the industry standard for the next 20 years.

I am not sure why lots of shows like Wheel of Fortune are not in HD.
They are. Lots of syndicated programs are available in HD:

-Jeopardy
-Two And A Half Men
-Wheel of Fortune
-Everybody Loves Raymond
-Seinfeld (TBS HD and local DTV stations)
-Ellen DeGeneres Show
-Oprah
-Dr. Phil
-Entertainment Tonight
-The Insider
-CSI: NY
-CSI: Miami
-Lost
-Tyler Perry's House of Payne
-Desperate Housewives
-Stargate Atlantis
-Legend of the Seeker (First Run)
-Boston Legal
-Live With Regis and Kelly
-Byron Allen's Comics Unleashed
-The King Of Queens
-Storm Stories

With more coming this fall, Rachael Ray, Dr. Oz, Inside Edition, etc.

The issue is with local stations having the ability to provide them in HD. In Detroit, we are lucky to have 4 local stations capable of syndicated HD. It will come to Toledo, I would expect relatively soon, maybe this fall.

Does anyone know if Buckeye has new HD boxes available? I'm on my 5th one (been a subscriber since 2003), and it's REALLY loud. I can hear its hard drives or whatever is spinning inside over most shows unless the volume is way up. It mght be the loudest one I've had so far.

I think it's a pace... all black on the outside, and a little smaller than the grey motorola's I've had previously.

First post updated.

National HD channels removed from provider listings.

Does anyone know if Buckeye has new HD boxes available? I'm on my 5th one (been a subscriber since 2003), and it's REALLY loud. I can hear its hard drives or whatever is spinning inside over most shows unless the volume is way up. It mght be the loudest one I've had so far.

I think it's a pace... all black on the outside, and a little smaller than the grey motorola's I've had previously.

I'm not sure if they have anything new. I have a Pace TDC 778 (http://www.pace.com/corporate/products/productDetails.asp?nav=products&productID=DCABLE-TDC778X%20Tahoe), it's actually pretty quiet and is far less buggy than the Moto boxes. I also have an external HDD and I can't hear either of them.

Oh man. That's the box I was trying to get when I turned mine in last year. I was helping a neighbor hookup his system, and noticed the new box, which had a blue lcd as opposed to the amber color of the moto boxes.

I went into the Southwyck office to turn mine in, and they told me all they had was the crummy black box I have now.... that's super loud. I'll give 'em a call to see if they have more of these 778s. It has to be quieter.

Boy this thread is quiet....we should find something to talk about...here goes..What HD channels do you wish Buckeye carried?

I'll go first..

Discovery HD
BBC HD
Bravo
AMC

We've got Discovery HD (ch 691) already. Think that was one of the original 4 (CBS, Fox, HDNET & Discovery) way back when they started.

I was happy when they added Nat Geo HD, History HD, and HGTV HD, but I wouldn't mind seeing TLC HD, Travel HD, and MTV/MTV2 HD - whichever one plays more videos.

We have Discovery HD Theater....it's not the same programming as The Discovery Channel (ch 23). We miss out on many great shows.. The Deadliest Catch for instance.

Hey guys, need a little bit of help. I'm currently living on UT's campus for the year, and after scanning for channels on my Samsung LN32A330, I couldn't find any OTA HD channels. I found plenty of DTV channels being broadcasted in 480i, but nothing in 720P or 1080i. Any idea if this is something on UT's end? In my house in Whitehouse, OH I am able to pick up the four major stations' HD channels.

I'm stumped.

Hey guys, need a little bit of help. I'm currently living on UT's campus for the year, and after scanning for channels on my Samsung LN32A330, I couldn't find any OTA HD channels. I found plenty of DTV channels being broadcasted in 480i, but nothing in 720P or 1080i. Any idea if this is something on UT's end? In my house in Whitehouse, OH I am able to pick up the four major stations' HD channels.

I'm stumped.

...so all I know is what's listed by the ever-reliable RabbitEars.info website. According to this source, WTOL-11, WNWO-24, WBGU-27 and WGTE-30 should all be broadcasting in 1080i, while WTVG-13 and WUPW-37 should be in 720p. Besides the sub-channels of these stations, the only station that's listed as purely 480i is WLMB-40.

But actual viewers in the Toledo area will be better witnesses about what is REALLY going on in your market.

Yeah I know that, but the problem is that I'm not getting them whatsoever.

Yeah I know that, but the problem is that I'm not getting them whatsoever.

You mention living on the UT campus, and wondered earlier if UT had something to do with this -- so are you actually watching OTA, or some kind of cable feed provided by UT?

The cable is supplied through the university.

But actual viewers in the Toledo area will be better witnesses about what is REALLY going on in your market.

Or they could read the first post of this topic.

Hey guys, need a little bit of help. I'm currently living on UT's campus for the year, and after scanning for channels on my Samsung LN32A330, I couldn't find any OTA HD channels. I found plenty of DTV channels being broadcasted in 480i, but nothing in 720P or 1080i. Any idea if this is something on UT's end? In my house in Whitehouse, OH I am able to pick up the four major stations' HD channels.

I'm stumped.

How were you getting the local HD channels at home? With an antenna or from cable? Are you using the same HDTV (or STB) to get the channels at UT?

Using the same Samsung TV I had in Whitehouse and in Cleveland. Both got HD channels without a hitch. To be honest, I'm not sure how the whole "picking up HD channels" work, but I always just autoprogrammed the TV's Cable option and it picked up all the regular channels, the local stations' 1080i/720P channels, and then the Music Choice channels as well.

Both cable providers in Whitehouse and Cleveland were/are Time Warner, if that means anything.

Or they could read the first post of this topic.

...and yeah, it does give an updated list of all Toledo stations and HD offerings of your area cable systems -- but honestly, few people who just moved into Toledo and started reading this thread are gonna read 1400+ messages, you know?

Not that it's a BAD IDEA, of course...there's plenty of good info in this thread! :rolleyes:

...and yeah, it does give an updated list of all Toledo stations and HD offerings of your area cable systems -- but honestly, few people who just moved into Toledo and started reading this thread are gonna read 1400+ messages, you know?

Not that it's a BAD IDEA, of course...there's plenty of good info in this thread! :rolleyes:You don't quite get it do you? Let me try again.

Not all 1400, just the first one. It's always been noted here as the reference post.

You don't quite get it do you? Let me try again.

Not all 1400, just the first one. It's always been noted here as the reference post.

...and I completely acknowledge your earlier (and VERY accurate) information. My apologies if any offense is taken -- none intended. I really DO "get it". :o

(Reference post? I certainly now know what you mean, but how is one supposed to know this exists? I've never seen any guidance back to a "reference post". But then, this isn't one of my usual threads -- and all I tried to do was give the same info using RabbitEars.info information...so it goes!)

Okay so I autoprogrammed my TV again this morning, and now I lost all the DTV channels I had.

(Reference post? I certainly now know what you mean, but how is one supposed to know this exists? I've never seen any guidance back to a "reference post". But then, this isn't one of my usual threads -- and all I tried to do was give the same info using RabbitEars.info information...so it goes!)

I've been around here for some time, and it's generally known by those who are regulars.

But I assume the thought is that new users will happen upon the first post automatically, when finding a thread for the first time.

This isn't always the case, as sometimes people get directed to threads like these by links elsewhere, which are directly to messages much deeper in the thread.

But it usually gets mentioned every so often that there's a list in the first post.

Well after about three times scanning for channels in analog and digital, I still don't have local channels in HD, just the 480i DTV ones. I emailed Buckeye so I hope they can answer my question.

Well after about three times scanning for channels in analog and digital, I still don't have local channels in HD, just the 480i DTV ones. I emailed Buckeye so I hope they can answer my question.

It could be UT has a special package from Buckeye that doesn't include any HDTV channels.

Using the same Samsung TV I had in Whitehouse and in Cleveland. Both got HD channels without a hitch. To be honest, I'm not sure how the whole "picking up HD channels" work, but I always just autoprogrammed the TV's Cable option and it picked up all the regular channels, the local stations' 1080i/720P channels, and then the Music Choice channels as well.

Both cable providers in Whitehouse and Cleveland were/are Time Warner, if that means anything.

Cable providers usually pass local HD in clear QAM format, which you're Samsung was picking up.

As already noted, it's quite possible the college system does not pass the local HD clear QAM channels; this usually is due to them adding their own channel(s).

If your rescans don't get anything with the cable, try an indoor VHF/UHF antenna. See this topic for UHF indoor antennas, which in your case might work: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1037779

I made the switch to DirecTV and Buckeye came out and removed a "filter" and now I am no longer receiving local channels in HD via QAM. I get the locals from DirecTV but the QAM is nice to have as a backup and for my computer's TV tuner card. Are they allowed to do this? I'm located in Perrysburg if that matters.

I made the switch to DirecTV and Buckeye came out and removed a "filter" and now I am no longer receiving local channels in HD via QAM. I get the locals from DirecTV but the QAM is nice to have as a backup and for my computer's TV tuner card. Are they allowed to do this? I'm located in Perrysburg if that matters.

It may depend on Buckeye policy. Most cableco's pass all the local HD they carry with any cable TV package; if all you have in Internet you may be out of luck. Call and ask, but it will probably be somewhat of a task to find someone who knows what QAM is.

It may depend on Buckeye policy. Most cableco's pass all the local HD they carry with any cable TV package; if all you have in Internet you may be out of luck. Call and ask, but it will probably be somewhat of a task to find someone who knows what QAM is.

That's right, I forgot about that. I removed everything but internet so they removed the QAM HD channels. I still get the non-HD versions through QAM and WGN-HD is still coming through.

I've been around here for some time, and it's generally known by those who are regulars.

But I assume the thought is that new users will happen upon the first post automatically, when finding a thread for the first time.

This isn't always the case, as sometimes people get directed to threads like these by links elsewhere, which are directly to messages much deeper in the thread.

But it usually gets mentioned every so often that there's a list in the first post.

...because when I look at a new thread for the first time, especially long ones, I just naturally look at the most recent pages. Assumptions are always dangerous -- can't assume the earlier pages are necessarily out-of-date, since they can be edited and brought up-to-date, just like the first one here!

Lesson learned... :o

...and it picked up all the regular channels, the local stations' 1080i/720P channels, and then the Music Choice channels as well...

Ahhh... the days when Buckeye had Music Choice. I wish cable companies would stop cheaping out on their music channel offerings. Urge doesn't hold a candle.

Regarding your HD channels issue, I'm guessing the UT build has something to do with it. When I do a channel setup for my Sony brand DVR (cable card), it asks which build to use - there are 3 to choose from, including one for UT.

You won't get as many channels as with Buckeye's regular QAM lineup, but I'd second the suggestion of picking up an HD antenna to pull in the major over-the-air network stations.

Well after emailing Buckeye, they informed me that I didn't have a QAM tuner, so I can't get the HD channels...

Kevin,

Looking at the specs of this television set it appears that it uses an
NTSC/ATSC tuner and not a QAM. To receive any HD channels broadcast via
cable you would need to have a QAM tuner in your television set. The type of
tuner your television uses cannot pickup stations broadcast via cable, only
those tuned to over the air (by antenna). Please let me know if you have any
further questions.

Thank you,
Technical Support Specialist Tier II
Valerie Kohout

So, I get Time Warner HD channels, but not Buckeye. Awesome.

Well after emailing Buckeye, they informed me that I didn't have a QAM tuner, so I can't get the HD channels...



So, I get Time Warner HD channels, but not Buckeye. Awesome.

This is not correct. If you were getting local HD from TWC, you should get it from Buckeye, as all cableco's use QAM.

What is the brand and model of your HDTV?

Samsung LN32A330 (http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/lcd-tv/LN32A330J1DXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec).

Samsung LN32A330 (http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/lcd-tv/LN32A330J1DXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec).

From the Samsung website:

All 2008 and 2007 Samsung TVs have QAM compatible HDTV (ATSC) tuners.Which explains why you got HD from TWC.

I would contact the college department that handles the cable system. And reply to the email from Buckeye, explaining you've got QAM before from TWC with the same set.

And again, look into an indoor antenna.

I just replied back to Buckeye, and I'm currently looking into who I should contact on campus.

And yes I will look into an antenna.

The cable is supplied through the university.

hmm, well I know that UT's cable is supplied through Buckeye, and I am able to get the locals through Buckeye with my QAM tuner. Does your tv have a qam tuner, or were you picking up the locals at home with an antenna?

If you have a qam tuner, and you've scanned the channels, maybe buckeye doesnt pass the qam channels through to UT. and i doubt you're going to be picking up any local stations with an antenna in a huge concrete dorm building

I just replied back to Buckeye, and I'm currently looking into who I should contact on campus.

And yes I will look into an antenna.

This is just a guess....But I imagine they may have some sort of filter or poor signal depending on where the end of the wire is. Chances are, your TWC was getting OTA through the cable that ran outside. If you had any type of signal booster on it, it would work perfectly fine. You are in the dorms right? A simple solution would be bunny ears.

Watching the BGSU game on BCSN. This is why I don't think I will switch providers.

Now I admit the quality is less than stellar, but I am watching a game live, that I would never have been able to watch on TV even a couple of years ago. It is a hell of a great way for this alum to watch a usually not televised game.

GO FALCONS!

With Buckeye, we get Discovery Theatre HD, but not the Discovery Channel HD. They are two different channels with two different sets of programming.

The Travel Channel HD began earlier this week, channel 656 with Buckeye.

Also starting Sept. 1 ... You will also be interested (or angry like I am) that our precious HD Cable bandwith is being used for QVC HD (ch. 628)!
I know regular QVC is popular with a lot middle-aged to elderly stay-at-homes, but I get the impression that the vast majority of them don't care if it's in HD or not. Ugh!

Any one contact buckeye on why QVC HD was added (as opposed to other HD networks)?

Guys... just an FYI....

Buckeye CableSystem is going to launch NFL RedZone this Sunday, September 13th just in time for the upcoming NFL season! Our customers are one of the very first in the country to enjoy this great new channel from NFL Network. NFL RedZone is live every Sunday during the football season from 1:00 PM. to 8:00 PM. Channel 697.

that's good to hear about NFL RedZone. Do you know if it's in the HDTV Basic Pak, HDTV Plus Pak, or do people need to buy another programming package for it?

that's good to hear about NFL RedZone. Do you know if it's in the HDTV Basic Pak, HDTV Plus Pak, or do people need to buy another programming package for it?

If you have the NFL Network HD channel, then you get the Red Zone channel. Not sure what package NFL is associated with.

If you have the NFL Network HD channel, then you get the Red Zone channel. Not sure what package NFL is associated with.

This actually does not appear to be the case. I have the NFL Network HD channel, but I am "not authorized" to view the HD Red Zone Channel. I'm not paying for the HDTV Plus Pak, so I assume that Red Zone is a part of it.

Josh

This actually does not appear to be the case. I have the NFL Network HD channel, but I am "not authorized" to view the HD Red Zone Channel. I'm not paying for the HDTV Plus Pak, so I assume that Red Zone is a part of it.

Josh

You're right. It's listed under the HDTV Plus Pak on the Buckeye website:
http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/hdtv/plus-pak.html

Glad to see Buckeye was so quick to add this Red Zone nonsense but STILL does not have USA. Seriously, it's a channel that only has any worth for a few hours on ONE DAY OF THE WEEK!!!

You're right. It's listed under the HDTV Plus Pak on the Buckeye website:
http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/hdtv/plus-pak.html

Sorry about that...that was what I was sent...

Anyone know why the UT vs. OSU game on 613 (buckeye) is not in HD? Every other game is HD, but this one??? WTF?


ahh.. ESPN Plus.. I still would have thought it would be in HD...

As I get into other threads (AVS and otherwise) about OTA DTV reception, much of the discussion is about "VHF nightmares", people having problems with stations that have switched from UHF temporary channels back to their VHF channels.

In some circumstances, the problem is understandable (as in Chicago, with heavy urban development, and the ABC affiliate that had to reduce power to less than 5kW because of the height of its antenna).

WTOL and WTVG are two such stations. Personally, I'm getting excellent reception of both in Temperance, with indoor antennas as well as outdoor, then again, I'm very close to their transmitters (9 miles from WTVG and 11 from WTOL).

FWIW, Detroit's Fox station also switched from UHF (58) to high VHF (7). I get them fine with an outdoor antenna, but not on indoor (which is what I expected).

I'm curious how everyone else is doing (good or bad) with WTOL and WTVG since the switch.

I'm in the northern Detroit suburbs (65 miles from the Toledo towers), and I have a Winegard YA-1713 in my attic. In analog, 11 and 13 both came in around a 6 (daytime) / 7 (evenings) out of 10. When their digital signals were temporarily on UHF 17 and 19, I never got a hint of either with my UHF antenna (Channel Master 4228, also in the attic). But 17 and 19 were at a rather low power. The current digital signals on 11 and 13 only occasionally come in late at night on the YA-1713 from the attic (my tuner needs a signal strength of at least 37-ish to lock).

I recently did a daytime test with the YA-1713 outside, and found quite an improvement. Both 11 and 13 locked solid in digital with signal strengths of 64 (for both channels). I plan to put an antenna (or two) outside on the chinmey before the weather gets cold to improve my reception.

I think a lot of the digital VHF problems are caused by people having UHF-only antennas (where most of the digital assignments were prior to June 12), regardless of whether they're indoor or outdoor. For those with indoor combination VHF/UHF antennas, it appears that digital VHF is much poorer than digital UHF at penetrating buildings, and the FCC grossly underestimated this (hence so many VHF stations scrambling to increase power around the country right now). Perhaps within a year or so, more stations will have upped their power to satisfy most peoples' needs. My recent outdoor antenna testing found that, when I do put up an outside antenna, quite a few stations that were only marginal in the analog days will now lock solid in digital for me, so I'll eventually end up with quite a few more channels as a result of digital tv.

Thanks for the info.

Do keep in mind that one reason you are able to get WTOL and WTVG on VHF, when you weren't on UHF, is that they have gone back to their original omnidirectional antennas, and the temporary UHF antennas were directional, nulling the North.

Also note that for several decades in the past, WPSD/WTVG analog 13 had been directional away from the North, which is why 11 had always been stronger in Detroit than 13. They went omnidirectional on analog 13 about the same time they built their temporary digital (19) transmitter (circa 2000).