Anyone know why the UT vs. OSU game on 613 (buckeye) is not in HD? Every other game is HD, but this one??? WTF?


ahh.. ESPN Plus.. I still would have thought it would be in HD...

Low end game...not worth the extra production money for HD costs-trucks & transmission. Not to mention the fact that this is a VERY busy time for remote production (baseball, NCAA Ftball & NFL). Most football is a two day operation and the amount of HD trucks would be tight during this time.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the ESPNPlus games are pretty much never in HD.

ESPNU? Sure...they have an HD channel, and I was surprised to see Indiana/Akron in HD on Saturday!

Are there any Buckeye Cable subscribers out there successfully using the Moxi HD DVR instead of renting one of Buckeye's boxes? I recently discovered the Moxi and am seriously considering it. Yes, I am aware that at the present time it does not stream live TV from the Moxi HD DVR to a "Moxi Mate" placed in another room but that feature is promised. I'd be curious to know your thoughts and experience with this hardware platform.
Thank you.

Are there any Buckeye Cable subscribers out there successfully using the Moxi HD DVR instead of renting one of Buckeye's boxes? I recently discovered the Moxi and am seriously considering it. Yes, I am aware that at the present time it does not stream live TV from the Moxi HD DVR to a "Moxi Mate" placed in another room but that feature is promised. I'd be curious to know your thoughts and experience with this hardware platform.
Thank you.

I am just curious, if you do hook this up, do you still get the same channels offered on the HD package? Do they still charge you a monthly fee? What is the cost associated with hooking up your own box?

I am just curious, if you do hook this up, do you still get the same channels offered on the HD package? Do they still charge you a monthly fee? What is the cost associated with hooking up your own box?Yes, you receive the same channels - whatever your subscription is for. As with moving to a TiVo box, you do lose VOD and PPV. Not an issue for me as I've never purchased either one. The cost is about $6.50 per month for a CableCARD and the extremely ridiculous price of $100 for a Buckeye tech to come out to your home to install the CableCARD - a task I've yet to see any tech who came to my house complete successfully. Each of the three times in the past that I've had a tech out to install a CableCARD, they had no clue, left with the TV not receiving my programming. I'd call Buckeye, fight my way to a higher level tech who knew what they were doing (not an easy task to get past the front line people) read them the appropriate data, they send a signal to authorize the card and you're good to go. It's Buckeye's way of zinging you for moving away from their pot of gold - the exhorbitant price they charge for their cable boxes. As I've stated so many times here, what we need is some serious competition to bring down local pricing. Or, if we could get the Blocks to dump The Blade, they could stop subsidizing that loser paper with the profits from their other operations such as Buckeye Cable and perhaps bring down the rates.;)

Yes, you receive the same channels - whatever your subscription is for. As with moving to a TiVo box, you do lose VOD and PPV. Not an issue for me as I've never purchased either one. The cost is about $6.50 per month for a CableCARD and the extremely ridiculous price of $100 for a Buckeye tech to come out to your home to install the CableCARD - a task I've yet to see any tech who came to my house complete successfully. Each of the three times in the past that I've had a tech out to install a CableCARD, they had no clue, left with the TV not receiving my programming. I'd call Buckeye, fight my way to a higher level tech who knew what they were doing (not an easy task to get past the front line people) read them the appropriate data, they send a signal to authorize the card and you're good to go. It's Buckeye's way of zinging you for moving away from their pot of gold - the exhorbitant price they charge for their cable boxes. As I've stated so many times here, what we need is some serious competition to bring down local pricing. Or, if we could get the Blocks to dump The Blade, they could stop subsidizing that loser paper with the profits from their other operations such as Buckeye Cable and perhaps bring down the rates.;)

lol nice.

Thanks for the info. Do you suggest any cable cards in particular? The Cable card I guess would pay for itself within the year. I have never done VOD or payperview or anything of the such. The real question is if the cable card is worth it or not by the price of the card. Could you go into a little more detail of where to get one and how it exactly works compared to a box?

the extremely ridiculous price of $100 for a Buckeye tech to come out to your home to install the CableCARD - a task I've yet to see any tech who came to my house complete successfully.

I know Buckeye has reduced the cost of installation to $50.00.

lol nice.

Thanks for the info. Do you suggest any cable cards in particular? The Cable card I guess would pay for itself within the year. I have never done VOD or payperview or anything of the such. The real question is if the cable card is worth it or not by the price of the card. Could you go into a little more detail of where to get one and how it exactly works compared to a box?As of this moment, the only place you can get a CableCARD is from your Cable provider - Buckeye in this case. In most installations these days, you would want to make sure they provide you with a MultiStream card to allow for the dual tuner ability of something like a TiVo box. However, I've read in the last few days that CableCARDS are soon to be available to the general public to purchase to put into something like a media center PC. I'm not sure if this will eliminate the need to obtain one from Buckeye for a CableCARD enabled TV (rare these days) or TiVo type box. If you take a close look through the vents on your Buckeye supplied cable box, guess what you find in there? A CableCARD!

I know Buckeye has reduced the cost of installation to $50.00.That's good to know. Thanks.

As of this moment, the only place you can get a CableCARD is from your Cable provider - Buckeye in this case. In most installations these days, you would want to make sure they provide you with a MultiStream card to allow for the dual tuner ability of something like a TiVo box. However, I've read in the last few days that CableCARDS are soon to be available to the general public to purchase to put into something like a media center PC. I'm not sure if this will eliminate the need to obtain one from Buckeye for a CableCARD enabled TV (rare these days) or TiVo type box. If you take a close look through the vents on your Buckeye supplied cable box, guess what you find in there? A CableCARD!


Yeah I saw that there is a card in there. I am actually right now somewhat sick of paying for a cable bill and just thinking about dumping it and my internet. I spend too much time on a pc at work anyways. I think my bill is right around 130$.

I know Buckeye has reduced the cost of installation to $50.00.

Did they tell you that on the phone? or did you find it online somewhere?

Everything I can find online still says $100

http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/downloads/TOL_docs/CableCards.pdf

http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/downloads/TOL_docs/tol-rates.pdf

I've been putting off getting a cablecard for my second TiVo HD because I didn't want to blow $100. Now $50 is feeling like a deal :rolleyes: :o

I had a cable card installed in my new TIVO HD two weeks ago. Total cost $55.12. When I called them to schedule an appointment they said $50. It still says $100 on thier website.

I had a cable card installed in my new TIVO HD two weeks ago. Total cost $55.12. When I called them to schedule an appointment they said $50. It still says $100 on thier website.I'm scheduled for the installation of two CableCARDS tomorrow. The tech who scheduled the appointment mentioned nothing about the cost so we'll see what it ends up being and I'll let you know.

I'm scheduled for the installation of two CableCARDS tomorrow. The tech who scheduled the appointment mentioned nothing about the cost so we'll see what it ends up being and I'll let you know.Well, some good news to report. The Cable Express tech came out right on time, installed two M Cards - one in each TiVo unit, got them programmed, collected my check in the amount of $59.34 and was on his way. While I'd still prefer the option to install them myself (just like they let us do with the boxes), I can live with $60 for two cards.

Well, some good news to report. The Cable Express tech came out right on time, installed two M Cards - one in each TiVo unit, got them programmed, collected my check in the amount of $59.34 and was on his way. While I'd still prefer the option to install them myself (just like they let us do with the boxes), I can live with $60 for two cards.

What's the monthly fee?

What's the monthly fee?From Buckeye's website, I believe it's $6.35 each.

Searched this thread but couldn't find an answer to this question. Why is Buckeye's broadcast of the CBC channel so poor? I realize that Buckeye receives the OTA SD broadcast and repeats it on their cable but ice hockey (HNIC) is just unwatchable and other shows such as "The Hour" or cbc news are just irritating to watch for any length of time. I can watch SD hockey on Versus and not be disgusted by the SD signal (yes I have HD with HDVersus). Even before I had an HDTV, CBC hochey on a 27 inch CRT was unwatchable. Is it the Buckeye signal processing or does CBC look that bad in Windsor? My TV may say it's 480i but the quality is half that I'd guess. Is there any way to receive OTA from Windsor down here in Perrysburg?

Is there any way to receive OTA from Windsor down here in Perrysburg?

The CBET tower is south of downtown Windsor, in McGregor, ONT. It appears to be about 55 miles Northeast from Perrysville, which is roughly the limit for TV reception. The good news is that as the crow flies, the majority of the distance is over water, which benefits TV reception.

If you know of someone close by with a directional roof antenna, it would be worth trying to see what could be received. Or, buy one and get it as high as possible and do a test.

At some point after Canadian analog TV goes off the air in August 2011, they will have digital TV, and HNIC in HD is a joy to watch. I get it on NHL Network HD, either the Leafs or Canadians each Saturday night.

Thanks Ken, I guess I'll have to look into trying an antenna set-up. If I can receive them, maybe the CBET broadcast I'd receive OTA will be of a better quality than the Buckeye Cable re-broadcast. Moving up to a 50 inch, (1365x768) plasma really exposed the poor quality of the cable analog signal.

At least I get Fox Sports Detroit HD with the Red Wings and the Monday night VersusHD broadcasts. Occasionally I watch a game streaming on the laptop. The quality of the streaming video has steadily improved over the last few years.

Perhaps that big TV reveals the limitations of NTSC analog TV itself?

One other note. CBET transmits from a relatively short tower and a directional antenna. Getting CBET OTA in perrysburg could be iffy. WTOL and WTVG could overload an amplifier if you use one (since they are both digital now, the overload will look like thick, chunky snow). Another problem with such a weak signal would by interference from tropo. They may be battling CFTO (analog, Toronto) and WWTV (digital, Cadillac, MI) in the summer months.

Searched this thread but couldn't find an answer to this question. Why is Buckeye's broadcast of the CBC channel so poor? I realize that Buckeye receives the OTA SD broadcast and repeats it on their cable but ice hockey (HNIC) is just unwatchable and other shows such as "The Hour" or cbc news are just irritating to watch for any length of time. I can watch SD hockey on Versus and not be disgusted by the SD signal (yes I have HD with HDVersus). Even before I had an HDTV, CBC hochey on a 27 inch CRT was unwatchable. Is it the Buckeye signal processing or does CBC look that bad in Windsor? My TV may say it's 480i but the quality is half that I'd guess. Is there any way to receive OTA from Windsor down here in Perrysburg?

I'm pretty sure you can't receive CBC in Perrysburg. I was at my brothers on Saturday and I auto-programed his tv (because I wanted to see if he got CBC) and he got like 14 digital channels and 2 analog, none of them were CBC. I don't know what kind of antenna he has but I pretty confident that the digital tuner has got to be pretty good because it's a nice Sony tv.

It's got to be Buckeye degrading the CBC signal because we used to have it on Time Warner Cable up until a few months ago and it didn't look worse than any other channel and was very watchable.

It has been terrible for quite a few years on buckeye. I will really miss CBC when we lose it. For the time being, I watch games on my old 27 flat panel tube which still broadcasts a really nice picture for CBC.

I'm pretty sure you can't receive CBC in Perrysburg. I was at my brothers on Saturday and I auto-programed his tv (because I wanted to see if he got CBC) and he got like 14 digital channels and 2 analog, none of them were CBC.CBC in Windsor, CBET, is not on the air in digital at this time. It may be August 2011 before we see that.


I don't know what kind of antenna he has but I pretty confident that the digital tuner has got to be pretty good because it's a nice Sony tv.
At that distance, unless you have the right antenna, it would not matter how good the TV tuner is. The antenna would need to be a large directional VHF, mounted outdoors as high as possible, pointed at McGregor, to even have a chance at CBET analog reception.

Thanks for the responses,

I thought about getting the NHL Center Ice package. Center Ice advertises "up to 12 HD games a week" but "HD availability varies by market".
I wonder if bandwidth will ever open up so that all the games will be in HD?

First I guess I'll try a DVI cable from the laptop to the TV and see how streaming video looks on the TV.

Thanks again everyone

First I guess I'll try a DVI cable from the laptop to the TV and see how streaming video looks on the TV. Not like HD.

As a Leafs fan, I have to say...do you really *want* to watch the Leafs every weekend right now? I find it too depressing. :(

First I guess I'll try a DVI cable from the laptop to the TV and see how streaming video looks on the TV.


where do you go online to get streaming games?

As a Leafs fan, I have to say...do you really *want* to watch the Leafs every weekend right now? I find it too depressing. :(

As the kids say "tru dat". 0-5-1 they're starting off like my Flyers did last year.

where do you go online to get streaming games?

http://www.atdhe.net/ is a first choice.

http://myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=icehockey has all kinds of live sports events though you may have to download a player from their software page.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl will usually be streaming a game in very good quality.

http://hockeywebcasts.com/ also has free webcasts.

As a Leafs fan, I have to say...do you really *want* to watch the Leafs every weekend right now? I find it too depressing. :(
When your not a Leafs fan, it's fine. I just like CBC hockey coverage.

At that distance, unless you have the right antenna, it would not matter how good the TV tuner is. The antenna would need to be a large directional VHF, mounted outdoors as high as possible, pointed at McGregor, to even have a chance at CBET analog reception.

I've picked up a VERY snowy CBET on my little digital portable set while parked along the lake in extreme Southeast MI just north of the Ohio line. Barely watchable. There, I suppose a semi-decent outdoor antenna would provide reliable, if snowy, reception. (Oh, the CBET signal is definitely analog only, my little set still gets NTSC.)

When I've visited and stayed in the Toledo area, I've never noticed any major signal degradation on CBET via Buckeye Cablevision...or for that matter, via Buckeye's Erie County division in Sandusky.

What IS the update regarding CBET's eventual digital service in 2011? Is it looking possible that they will indeed put up a digital transmitter at the Canadian transition, after all?

What IS the update regarding CBET's eventual digital service in 2011? Is it looking possible that they will indeed put up a digital transmitter at the Canadian transition, after all?

It's official CBET will go DTV, due to the size of the municipality.

Analog cutoff is currently scheduled for August 2011, although I think there is a reasonable possibility that may be delayed, just like the US.

It's not been determined if CBET will be on the air digitally before, at, or after the cutoff. The issue is money.

Well, some good news to report. The Cable Express tech came out right on time, installed two M Cards - one in each TiVo unit, got them programmed, collected my check in the amount of $59.34 and was on his way. While I'd still prefer the option to install them myself (just like they let us do with the boxes), I can live with $60 for two cards.

How did you luck out and get two cards for one install fee?

I scheduled 2 M-Card installs and they quoted me $50 per card

How did you luck out and get two cards for one install fee?

I scheduled 2 M-Card installs and they quoted me $50 per cardDarned if I know. They did not quote me a price when I placed the order - nor did I ask. I just assumed I'd be shelling out $100 per card as was their previous pricing for CableCARDS. On the down side, my 3 week old TiVo HD XL bit the dust and needs to be replaced by TiVo :(

Who out there wants Whole Home DVR from Buckeye Cablesystem?

Read Me! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1191788)

Buckeye is currently testing this solution, it looks to be better than everything else out there, as far as features go...

Here is a brief summary of the offering just in case some of you don't want to read everything.

Basically it is a NAS or Network Attached Storage. So you will have a box in addition to your regular non-DVR cable box. Then you will use small non-DVR cable boxes on your other TV's where you want DVR access.

Some Specs:


500Gb Storage
Set recordings from any TV with a cable box.
Capable of recording 6 HD feeds simultaneously while playing back 3 recorded feeds. This would require 3 cable boxes.
Still uses iGuide software :mad:
Can stop playback in one room and start it back up in another

It's official CBET will go DTV, due to the size of the municipality.

This is very good news. I'm glad to see it isn't going away!

I wonder if it means Buckeye will keep it when 2011 comes around. I have no idea how Buckeye picks up CBET right now...

This is very good news. I'm glad to see it isn't going away!Agree.

I wonder if it means Buckeye will keep it when 2011 comes around.I would hope so. I know that currently in Seattle, Comcast is carrying Vancouver CBC HD, so it's doable for a US company.

I have no idea how Buckeye picks up CBET right now...

Antenna, I think.

Who out there wants Whole Home DVR from Buckeye Cablesystem?


Yes please.

Too bad we'll still have to deal with iGuide...I think it was last updated around the same time Win95 came out. :rolleyes:

I agree that Buckeye is picking up CBET OTA.

I observe very slight ghosting on the channel via buckeye, and, on rare occasions, have seen impulse noise as well.

Yes please.

Too bad we'll still have to deal with iGuide...I think it was last updated around the same time Win95 came out. :rolleyes:

I hear ya about the iGuide, that is so antiquated and the fact that I have to look at the same stupid ads everytime I use it (Bose, etc... come on free up some valuable real estate for the guide not ads!). When I was visiting Columbus years ago (like 5+) the system they had was tons better, it had local restaurant menus and such on it... That was nice.

Has anyone noticed that their Motorola boxes are taking forever at times to process commands? It's getting more frequent now, but sometimes it takes 1+ minutes for it to respond to various remote commands.... annoying.

I would hope so. I know that currently in Seattle, Comcast is carrying Vancouver CBC HD, so it's doable for a US company.


I didn't know that. Of course, there is an OTA CBC digital transmitter there in Vancouver, and Comcast probably has receive facilities close enough to get it and pipe it down to Seattle.

We'll have to see if this means that Buckeye offers CBC HD whenever the CBET facility goes live.

Antenna, I think.

I was thinking more along the lines of "if they're picking it up OTA in Toledo".

I assume the Detroit locals are being picked up OTA wherever Buckeye has its receive site in the Toledo area, but don't really know if CBET's signal is strong enough for OTA pickup in Toledo via even a souped up cable receive site.

IIRC, Buckeye doesn't offer HD versions of the Detroit network affiliates, but this is probably just rights issues vs. the Toledo market stations.

Cablers Put Pace Multiroom DVR to Test

Whole-Home Recorder Gets Trial From Smaller MSOs

by George Winslow -- Multichannel News, 11/4/2009

Several smaller cable operators are completing field trials of Pace's Home Content Sharing product, a whole-home HD DVR that allows operators to distribute as many as nine simultaneous HD streams throughout the household.

None of the publicly announced operators -- which include Mediacom Communications, Buckeye CableSystem and Sunflower Broadband -- has officially committed to deploying HCS. However, "they've been extremely happy with the results," said Pace America vice president of sales and marketing Tim O'Loughlin.

"We do have units that have been commercially deployed," said O'Loughlin. "We just haven't announced the operator. The system is out there, with paying subscribers and we're seeing a lot of demand bubbling up from the cable operators."

In addition, the National Cable Television Cooperative, which collectively buys programming and equipment for smaller cable operators, has agreed to offer HCS to its members, O'Loughlin noted.

Pace is touting HCS as a technological breakthrough. "It is the first to hit the market that is capable of simultaneously recording six HD programs at the same time that three of the clients [HD set-top boxes] are playing back an HD program, which gets you up to 9 HD MPEG-2 streams," O'Loughlin said. "If you use it for standard-definition TV, the number of streams goes up, and if you have got the MPEG-4, they go up."

Homeowners who have HDTVs in their living rooms have increasingly been purchasing smaller sets for their bedrooms or elsewhere, one of this year's bright spots in sales. Pace hopes the HCS product will tap into a growing demand for products to deal with such homes.

High-end HD DVRs can cost as much as $400 a piece, and putting several boxes in the same home poses a significant capital expense for operators.

"Cable operators are seeing more and more homes that want to have HD DVRs in more than one room," O'Loughlin said. "This system is a lot more cost effective than putting three standalone HD DVRs around the house."

Beyond the cost savings, O'Loughlin added that the system could potentially reduce churn. "If a subscriber has 70 or 80 hours of HD content on [the centralized storage device] that they can access from any room with full DVR functionality, the likelihood of them churning out goes down significantly," he said.

The system uses a Network Attached Storage device with either a 500-Gigabyte or 1-Terabyte hard drive, attached to Pace's Apache set-top multiple non-DVR set-top boxes. These boxes communicate with the gateway device, allowing them to play back and set recordings, pause live programs and provide other DVR functions.

It is fully integrated with the Rovi Passport interactive programming guide, used by many operators, and with Rovi's Connected Platform software.

"The Rovi IPG is widely used and that makes it easier for consumers to use the platform," O'Loughlin said.
In the future, Pace also plans to expand the system's capabilities with Rovi's Connected Platform software so that subscribers can plug consumer-electronics devices into the home network and personalize the content that is available to them, O'Loughlin said.

Sounds like a really cool device.

However, I don't see buckeye doing that. There is no advantage to them in a business aspect since they charge 17$ a box....In a year, these boxes pay for themselves. It really is a scam.

Sounds like a really cool device.

However, I don't see buckeye doing that. There is no advantage to them in a business aspect since they charge 17$ a box....In a year, these boxes pay for themselves. It really is a scam.

It has been confirmed that buckeye will be implementing this. The advantage to them is to remain competitive, AT&T offers whole home DVR already.

Read the links I posted earlier, the CTO of buckeye is quoted talking about the system in his home, and what other options it may offer buckeye from a revenue standpoint.

And to address your comment about it being a scam, you can buy your own Tivo if you want... :rolleyes:

It has been confirmed that buckeye will be implementing this. The advantage to them is to remain competitive, AT&T offers whole home DVR already.

Read the links I posted earlier, the CTO of buckeye is quoted talking about the system in his home, and what other options it may offer buckeye from a revenue standpoint.

Sorry, I missed your post.

And to address your comment about it being a scam, you can buy your own Tivo if you want... :rolleyes:

You missed my point. I don't care about DVR/TiVo. I care about playing HD on my HD TV. I am not sure why the costs reflect so badly on us....It all seems like a scam that we pay 45$ a month in premium costs and then another 17 dollars on top of it just to have HD. If I had other options at high speed internet, I would look elsewhere.

Sounds like a really cool device.

However, I don't see buckeye doing that. There is no advantage to them in a business aspect since they charge 17$ a box....In a year, these boxes pay for themselves. It really is a scam.

Well they are...And those boxes are costly...There are still analog boxes out there that people will not return, a free exchange for a digital version!. At some point boxes will have be required as the analog users have to be chewing up bandwidth that us HD viewers would like to use. Really, how can they complain...they just have to pretend they have sat. receiver.Cable should be no different in order for technology to move forward. If the analog was gone, we would not have to watch compress signals!

From Multichannel NewsOhio's Buckeye Cablevision Pushes Fiber To The Home

Operator To Use Kabel-X USA's Coax-Extraction System For Trials In Toledo System

Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 11/16/2009 4:06:42 PM

Buckeye Cablevision will initiate a fiber-to-the-home deployment in its Toledo, Ohio, system using Kabel-X USA's process for deploying fiber through existing coaxial cabling.

Buckeye plans to switch an existing subdivision from coax to a fiber-to-the-home solution without construction of new facilities in the easements. The Kabel-X system -- developed by the Austrian parent company and introduced in the U.S. last year -- removes the coax cable's center conductor and dielectric material by injecting a proprietary fluid to provide a conduit for fiber-optic cable.

"We see the Kabel-X technology as an innovative tool that will allow us to cost effectively deploy a fiber-to-the-home architecture in areas currently served by a traditional hybrid fiber coax network," Buckeye Cablevision chief technology officer Joe Jensen said in a statement.

Buckeye Cablevision, a wholly owned subsidiary of Block Communications, is the largest cable provider in the Toledo area, with approximately 150,000 subscribers.

Kabel-X's cable-extraction technology can extract 600 to 1,000 feet of coaxial core in two to three hours, the company claims. Separate equipment is required to blow fiber through the coax sheath. Kabel-X USA is based in Davie, Fla., near Ft. Lauderdale.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/389344-Ohio_s_Buckeye_Cablevision_Pushes_Fiber_To_The_Home.php

If I had other options at high speed internet, I would look elsewhere.

And you would be looking at the same or similar pricing... I have shopped around and the prices (for AT&T, DirecTV, and DISH) are all within about 5-10/month for equivilant packages. At least to get the channels I care about.

Now you can argue that you get more HD channels with the other options, but that is a different argument...

From Multichannel NewsOhio's Buckeye Cablevision Pushes Fiber To The Home

Operator To Use Kabel-X USA's Coax-Extraction System For Trials In Toledo System

Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 11/16/2009 4:06:42 PM

Buckeye Cablevision will initiate a fiber-to-the-home deployment in its Toledo, Ohio, system using Kabel-X USA's process for deploying fiber through existing coaxial cabling.

Buckeye plans to switch an existing subdivision from coax to a fiber-to-the-home solution without construction of new facilities in the easements. The Kabel-X system -- developed by the Austrian parent company and introduced in the U.S. last year -- removes the coax cable's center conductor and dielectric material by injecting a proprietary fluid to provide a conduit for fiber-optic cable.

"We see the Kabel-X technology as an innovative tool that will allow us to cost effectively deploy a fiber-to-the-home architecture in areas currently served by a traditional hybrid fiber coax network," Buckeye Cablevision chief technology officer Joe Jensen said in a statement.

Buckeye Cablevision, a wholly owned subsidiary of Block Communications, is the largest cable provider in the Toledo area, with approximately 150,000 subscribers.

Kabel-X's cable-extraction technology can extract 600 to 1,000 feet of coaxial core in two to three hours, the company claims. Separate equipment is required to blow fiber through the coax sheath. Kabel-X USA is based in Davie, Fla., near Ft. Lauderdale.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/389344-Ohio_s_Buckeye_Cablevision_Pushes_Fiber_To_The_Home.phpVery interesting indeed! Sounds like a pricey process though. I'm sure it's less expensive than replacing all the coax with fiber but pricey nonetheless. I wish my subdvision was the one having this deployed.