It depends on many variables, mostly on how much cash you want to spend.

I am in Bryan, OH and pull Detriot in without any issues. (90 Miles)

Run a TVFool report for your address and post it.

If you are lost, just PM me.

Detroit is probably going to be difficult. I live only 30 miles south of Toledo and the channels are really hard to pick up here and you're probably 60 miles or farther away from Detroit? I wouldn't count on it but it's possible. I listen to the Detroit radio station 89x every single day so there's hope.

The Blade had an ad in it today that said Buckeye was finally releasing that DVR software upgrade they promised a while ago. Still not seeing anything though. Anyone get it?

We received the update this afternoon on our Motorola box.

The Pace box still has the old software on it.

First impression is that the new software is much faster than the old. I just wish both machines had it!

Anyone have a list of what this new upgrade does? Do we finally get internet scheduling? The only thing I noticed different is the dvr shows are now in folders.

I got my update this morning, although I had no sound coming out of the box. I had to unplug it and plug it back in to get sound.

No internet scheduling as far as I know. There more options under the DVR menu. Looks like we can delete groups of shows all at once. Check out the search function it's a big improvement too.

On a plane right now on the way home from Orlando and their local stations syndicate shows like Seinfeld and Everybody Loves Raymond in HD. I thought that was interesting because I have never seen in before and all of their local news broadcasts are also in HD. It just seems like they're so far ahead of us.

On a plane right now on the way home from Orlando and their local stations syndicate shows like Seinfeld and Everybody Loves Raymond in HD. I thought that was interesting because I have never seen in before and all of their local news broadcasts are also in HD. It just seems like they're so far ahead of us.

Yeah, it would be nice to see the locals do more HD. Seinfeld in HD on TBS looks great, better than I would have expected for a show filmed 4:3 in low-def.

Yeah, it would be nice to see the locals do more HD. Seinfeld in HD on TBS looks great, better than I would have expected for a show filmed 4:3 in low-def.

It was shot on film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld#Seinfeld_in_HD

It was shot on film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld#Seinfeld_in_HD

And cropped for 16:9 but it still looks fantastic in HD. A lot better than most shows look today. MTV for some reason likes to waste bandwidth with their MTV "HD" channel which consists of letterboxed widescreen shows and sidebar 4:3 shows. I hate MTV.

Different topic: I am new member here and have been reading a lot. Currently with Buckeye and driven crazy with the expense of cable. I have a Motorola DVR DCH 3416 and Pace DC 700x HD boxes rented from Buckeye at cost of about 33/month. Has anyone ever purchased a box that can be used with buckeye that has DVR capabilities that they use and like. I read earlier post about the Moxi system, but this is to much for my small wallet. Any thought about picking up a similar box off ebay etc??? Would that work. Does Buckeye let you do that??

Different topic: I am new member here and have been reading a lot. Currently with Buckeye and driven crazy with the expense of cable. I have a Motorola DVR DCH 3416 and Pace DC 700x HD boxes rented from Buckeye at cost of about 33/month. Has anyone ever purchased a box that can be used with buckeye that has DVR capabilities that they use and like. I read earlier post about the Moxi system, but this is to much for my small wallet. Any thought about picking up a similar box off ebay etc??? Would that work. Does Buckeye let you do that??

I'm not sure if they would try to charge you a lease fee when you try to activate the box but I can tell you that DirecTV does, you can't own their equipment. Anyway there's always Tivo but that's expensive too.

Different topic: I am new member here and have been reading a lot. Currently with Buckeye and driven crazy with the expense of cable. I have a Motorola DVR DCH 3416 and Pace DC 700x HD boxes rented from Buckeye at cost of about 33/month. Has anyone ever purchased a box that can be used with buckeye that has DVR capabilities that they use and like. I read earlier post about the Moxi system, but this is to much for my small wallet. Any thought about picking up a similar box off ebay etc??? Would that work. Does Buckeye let you do that??
TiVo may be a good option for you. They've recently rolled out a $0 down/$19.99/month with 2 year commitment plan. There are other options as well but the deal I mention gets you a new TiVo Premier box and a TiVo subscription. In addition, TiVo offers the ability to stream numerous video services most notably - Netflix. The new Premier boxes will also stream some muic services such as Pandora.
Of course, you still need to rent a CableCard from Buckeye for somewhere between $3 and $6/month to stick inside the TiVo box which will allow you to receive the Buckeye programming you subscribe to. The worst part of that is that Buckeye refuses to allow you to install the CableCard yourself - which your grandmother could easily do. They insist on a truck roll. Last I knew, the cost of the truck roll was $50. It was $100 when I had to do it.:mad:
All told though, it is a good option for some - and allows you to ditch those expensive DVR boxes from Buckeye which, last I knew, don't stream anything. And, the TiVo user interface is hands down the simplest thing on the planet to use. IMHO of course.

I appreciate your quick responses, but I would have actually pay more than I do now right. Both HD boxes, (1 with DVR) run about 38+/month currently with Buckeye. With TIVO it would be 40/mo, plus additional fee to Buckeye for set up and a monthly fee. I already have the ability to stream using my TV and appreciate the nice TIVO interface, but do not think that it worth the expense for me. Any thoughts about the idea purchasing a used Motorola DVR box and investing in the up front expense, but then owning it, and not having to rent from Buckeye every month?

I appreciate your quick responses, but I would have actually pay more than I do now right. Both HD boxes, (1 with DVR) run about 38+/month currently with Buckeye. With TIVO it would be 40/mo, plus additional fee to Buckeye for set up and a monthly fee. I already have the ability to stream using my TV and appreciate the nice TIVO interface, but do not think that it worth the expense for me. Any thoughts about the idea purchasing a used Motorola DVR box and investing in the up front expense, but then owning it, and not having to rent from Buckeye every month?
I'm guessing that Buckeye would not allow that. They want (and need) to have control over the devices connected to their system. A bad device can actually cause big time problems for the customers of an entire area. I speak from experience. A few years back, some jackass in my neighborhood was stealing cable service. Whatever the device was that he had connected was causing me (and others) to have no phone or Internet service. (I'm a VIP bundle customer) Cable worked but that was it. This went on for nearly 10 days before Buckeye could figure out what was going on. Personally, I believe such people deserve capital punishment. But that's just me.
Even if they would allow you to connect a foreign device, what happens if you need service on the device? I'm sure Buckeye would not service it.

If you went the Tivo route you'd still have to rent the cable cards from Buckeye so it may not be a very good option.

You could buy a tv tuner for your computer. The downside is you can only record local HD channels and basic cable, up to channel 80 or whatever.

You could buy a tv tuner for your computer. The downside is you can only record local HD channels and basic cable, up to channel 80 or whatever.

But there would be no cable box or cable card fees. I saw that Dish Network has no receiver fees for the first 2 receivers, 1 being a HD DVR I think.

Any thoughts about the idea purchasing a used Motorola DVR box and investing in the up front expense, but then owning it, and not having to rent from Buckeye every month?

You can't do that, Buckeye won't activate any box they don't supply. The only option is a TiVo or Moxi.

Took a survey over the phone last night about my cable TV service. It was obvious by the questions they asked that Buckeye was behind it. There were a ton of questions about cell phone service. Enough to lead me to believe Buckeye is considering offering some kind of wireless service.

I am pretty sick of paying 130 a month to have a box in one room and a 10 mb line when I see other cable companies offering 120 a month for 2 boxes and a 15 mb line with 5 mb upload. Buckeye is the biggest monopoly in this area. When Verizon releases the LTE network in this area, I am really going to consider my options.

What really even makes me more mad about Buckeye is that they are offering new line of service contracts double the speed of their existing customers...I pay 45$ a month for 10 mb while new customers pay the same for 20 mb. It is time to fine an alternative. I hate AT&T, but I would be willing to move to Uverse with this price gouging.

I am pretty sick of paying 130 a month to have a box in one room and a 10 mb line when I see other cable companies offering 120 a month for 2 boxes and a 15 mb line with 5 mb upload. Buckeye is the biggest monopoly in this area. When Verizon releases the LTE network in this area, I am really going to consider my options.

What really even makes me more mad about Buckeye is that they are offering new line of service contracts double the speed of their existing customers...I pay 45$ a month for 10 mb while new customers pay the same for 20 mb. It is time to fine an alternative. I hate AT&T, but I would be willing to move to Uverse with this price gouging.I'm not wild about my bill either ($184/month - VIP Bundle but NO premium services, 2 non-DVR boxes and 2 CableCards) and I'd take a serious look at the competition (if there was any) BUT I also keep the service factor in mind. Buckeye is there 365/24/7. I can't say enough bad about AT&T and Verizon is an unknown regarding cable/land line/Internet service - at least to me.

Can anyone recommend an outdoor antenna for West Toledo? I definitely want to get the Toledo stations in rock-solid, but getting Detroit stations would be nice (if possible).

I have been living in Chicago for the last two years, and got addicted to using Windows Media Center with an antenna. I hooked up my Winegard SS-3000 inside, but it was not pulling in the Toledo stations very consistently.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!

Getting all but one the Toledo stations rock-solid should by quite easy. Even a very small antenna should do the trick if you only get it "out in the clear" - outdoors, with no obstructions within 20' of it, and point it at Oregon (OH).
The one fly in the ointment is WLMB, known as channel 40, but actually transmitting on lowband channel 5 with only 10kW from the opposite direction (Jasper, MI). WLMB is, for the most part, a religious station, but has some vintage secular family fare in the evenings. If you want WLMB, you'll need an antenna with some wide elements, and quite possibly a rotator to turn the antenna WNW. Whether WLMB is important is a matter of personal taste.

Detroit is another matter. You will need a deep-fringe antenna at some height (an amplifier is not recommended in the city because the strong TV and FM transmitters in Oregon could overload one). Your latitude will determine how high your antenna will have to be. In Temperance, a Channel Master 3020 at 30' on a chimney gets all full power Detroit (not Mt Clemens) stations solid, but go in the attic, and WDIV 4/RF45 virtually disappears, likely because it is 2 miles further away than all the rest. You might get by on a rooftop near Alexis, need a tower around Airport Rd, and a tall tower if you're near Maumee. You would have to aim the antenna NNE for Detroit. You might get Toledo solid this way as well (the signals would be plenty strong enough to make up for the mis-aiming, but multipath could be a problem with the antenna turned the wrong way).

I'm not wild about my bill either ($184/month - VIP Bundle but NO premium services, 2 non-DVR boxes and 2 CableCards) and I'd take a serious look at the competition (if there was any) BUT I also keep the service factor in mind. Buckeye is there 365/24/7. I can't say enough bad about AT&T and Verizon is an unknown regarding cable/land line/Internet service - at least to me.

You are absolutely right....I cannot complain about service. I am more excited when Verizon becomes 4g in my area and I can dump all of this junk and just get their service. What is everyone's experience with hulu?

You are absolutely right....I cannot complain about service. I am more excited when Verizon becomes 4g in my area and I can dump all of this junk and just get their service. What is everyone's experience with hulu?

Are you referring to just using 4G wireless service, with their data caps it seems like you would blow thru those in no time for in the home use, especially if you use Netflix or anything.

Switched to AT& T Uverse and absolutely love it! ALL channels are HD and many more channels. No more sorry list of HD channels from Buckeye. The only thing I lost was BCSN, but I ended up saving a couple of $$ a month and got all HD channels. Also switch the internet as well.

Got a flower bouquet delivered to the house asking me to reconsider..Ya right. LOL

Over and Out.

Switched to AT& T Uverse and absolutely love it! ALL channels are HD and many more channels. No more sorry list of HD channels from Buckeye. The only thing I lost was BCSN, but I ended up saving a couple of $$ a month and got all HD channels. Also switch the internet as well.

Got a flower bouquet delivered to the house asking me to reconsider..Ya right. LOL

Over and Out.

I've heard good things about Uverse like their good HD selection and GUI. The only bad thing I've really heard about is their poor HD quality. Anyway good for you. It's funny going to the Franklin Park Mall and seeing all of Buckeyes advertising for their awesome HD in the food court when their HD selection isn't all that good.

Does Uverse have VOD?

Yes AT&T has a much larger/better selection on VOD. Since I've had AT&T (12/23), Buckeye's service seems to provide a very tired service. BTW.. HD quality is very good!
Good Luck to all.

Yes AT&T has a much larger/better selection on VOD. Since I've had AT&T (12/23), Buckeye's service seems to provide a very tired service. BTW.. HD quality is very good!
Good Luck to all.

That's good to hear, personally I've never seen Uverses HD picture quality but I heard their SD looked pretty good (for being SD).

I noticed a minor increase in picture quality after switching from TWC to DirecTV which I assume is because of DirecTV's use of the more efficient mpeg4 codec. The HD selection isn't as great as TWC's and the VOD has to be downloaded but my internet connection is fast enough that it practically just streams. There's quite a bit of VOD content too.

I wish Uverse was available here because I'd definitely get internet through them. I'm tired of these crappy 512K upload speeds I'm getting while I'm getting 10+Mbps down.

Anyone watch the premiere of V on 13? I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant level of DNR on cable. I don't watch much on 13, so I don't if everything else is like this or not.

Anyone watch the premiere of V on 13? I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant level of DNR on cable. I don't watch much on 13, so I don't if everything else is like this or not.

Are you sure it's not your TV? Most TVs have a digital noise reduction but I like to always have that turned off. 13ABC probably doesn't look that great anyway because it's only 720p. I think 1080i looks a bit sharper even though it only really shows 540 lines at a time.

It doesn't look that good on DirecTV either and I'm pretty they just pick up the signal with an antenna and rebroadcast it.

Does the CW affiliate WT05 broadcast on over the air TV or is it just on cable only? I'm kinda surprised that none of the TV stations in Toledo have made some kind of deal to air CW programming from WT05 on any of their subchannels so it can be available over the air for those who don't have cable. I would've expeceted better from the stations in Toledo IMO.

Does the CW affiliate WT05 broadcast on over the air TV or is it just on cable only? I'm kinda surprised that none of the TV stations in Toledo have made some kind of deal to air CW programming from WT05 on any of their subchannels so it can be available over the air for those who don't have cable. I would've expeceted better from the stations in Toledo IMO.

It's broadcasted on cable only. I know that it's available on BCS but it's also available on TWC. DirecTV uses WDCW CW-Washington DC because they can't pick up the signal since it isn't broadcasted.

Here's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WT05) more info on WT05.

Toledo is one of the largest markets in which CW network is not available OTA from a station within the market.

However, many (it not most) people in the immediate Toledo metro area can get CW over the air from WKBD (virtual 50/RF 14) near Detroit, provided they have the proper antenna.

Question guys....I'm toying with the idea of dropping Buckeye for one of the satellite providers. Both DISH and DirecTV are cheaper and offer more HD channels. For me it's more about getting more HiDef channels, saving $20-30 a month is a nice bonus though. My main concern is PQ.. in the past I know that Buckeye's HiDef was generally considered superior to satellite but is that still true? I have some friends with DirecTV and they seem to like it well enough but I don't think they have as critical an eye as I do. Is there anyone here who's had both? How do they compare?

Question guys....I'm toying with the idea of dropping Buckeye for one of the satellite providers. Both DISH and DirecTV are cheaper and offer more HD channels. For me it's more about getting more HiDef channels, saving $20-30 a month is a nice bonus though. My main concern is PQ.. in the past I know that Buckeye's HiDef was generally considered superior to satellite but is that still true? I have some friends with DirecTV and they seem to like it well enough but I don't think they have as critical an eye as I do. Is there anyone here who's had both? How do they compare?

The picture quality will likely be a LITTLE better but if you think you'll be saving money think again. Satellite companies, DirecTV in my experience is tricky with their pricing plans. It could be $90 a month and they'll still advertise the $29.99 plan as that. I thought I would be saving money too but I'm paying about the same.

Check out the DBStalk.com forums if you want to know more about either DirecTV or Dish Network.

Question guys....I'm toying with the idea of dropping Buckeye for one of the satellite providers. Both DISH and DirecTV are cheaper and offer more HD channels. For me it's more about getting more HiDef channels, saving $20-30 a month is a nice bonus though. My main concern is PQ.. in the past I know that Buckeye's HiDef was generally considered superior to satellite but is that still true? I have some friends with DirecTV and they seem to like it well enough but I don't think they have as critical an eye as I do. Is there anyone here who's had both? How do they compare?

Buckeye's 1920x1080 signal with bitrates as high as 20 is superior to anything I have seen come off either of the satellite services. If you are PQ sensitive and have a large display (>=60") you will probably not be happy with satellite PQ.

No I don't work for Buckeye :)

Are you sure it's not your TV? Most TVs have a digital noise reduction but I like to always have that turned off. 13ABC probably doesn't look that great anyway because it's only 720p. I think 1080i looks a bit sharper even though it only really shows 540 lines at a time.

It doesn't look that good on DirecTV either and I'm pretty they just pick up the signal with an antenna and rebroadcast it.

Definitely not my TV. It's calibrated and all of the extra junk is off. Everything else is fine. Last season V looked fine which is why it really stood out.

You can't do that, Buckeye won't activate any box they don't supply. The only option is a TiVo or Moxi.
.Just wanted to let everyone know that I was able to purchase 2 DVR boxes off Ebay, bring them into Buckeye to have them checked out and their card inserted. Hooked them up with no problem. Obviously there is chance that the boxes could have had problems but it worked without a hitch. Lowering my bill another 18/mth. For what I paid for the boxes including shipping they pay for themselves in less than 6months. Just food for thought to lower the cost a bit.
Sorry for the delay in this post, but it took some time.

.Just wanted to let everyone know that I was able to purchase 2 DVR boxes off Ebay, bring them into Buckeye to have them checked out and their card inserted. Hooked them up with no problem. Obviously there is chance that the boxes could have had problems but it worked without a hitch. Lowering my bill another 18/mth. For what I paid for the boxes including shipping they pay for themselves in less than 6months. Just food for thought to lower the cost a bit.
Sorry for the delay in this post, but it took some time.That's very interesting. I would have never guessed Buckeye would allow it. Though, maybe they are required to do so under one of the multitude of cable regulation acts Congress is so fond of enacting. Good to know we have options.

Are you referring to just using 4G wireless service, with their data caps it seems like you would blow thru those in no time for in the home use, especially if you use Netflix or anything.

I imagine when this because more mainstream with tablets, we will start to see more traffic monitoring tools. Also, I imagine 2 years from now the LTE network will have to be cut in half price wise because of all the new types of devices coming out. The market will be flooded and technology will need to be updated.

I don't do netflix and really have no need to currently. I am just extremely sick of paying so much money to one company for crappy limitations.

E-mailed 13 about V, and lo and behold this week it looked fine. Must have listened.

Just purchased my second Samsung HDTV 19" from Amazon.
The replaces an old 15" Sharp.

So my first TV is a Samsung Series 5 46" with the DVR cable box, HD gateway.
Picture is fantastic and looks great. I'm using HDMI.

On the 19" I've just got the coax connection, and it looks really good.
Chanel 11-1 and 13-1 look good in HD. Rest of the chanels are ok.

So for a smaller 19" set is it worth the extra $16 a month for
the DVR Cable box and HDMI?

What would you do?

Just purchased my second Samsung HDTV 19" from Amazon.
The replaces an old 15" Sharp.

So my first TV is a Samsung Series 5 46" with the DVR cable box, HD gateway.
Picture is fantastic and looks great. I'm using HDMI.

On the 19" I've just got the coax connection, and it looks really good.
Chanel 11-1 and 13-1 look good in HD. Rest of the chanels are ok.

So for a smaller 19" set is it worth the extra $16 a month for
the DVR Cable box and HDMI?

What would you do?

$16 extra a month just for one HD DVR? I wouldn't pay that much.

Just purchased my second Samsung HDTV 19" from Amazon.
The replaces an old 15" Sharp.

So my first TV is a Samsung Series 5 46" with the DVR cable box, HD gateway.
Picture is fantastic and looks great. I'm using HDMI.

On the 19" I've just got the coax connection, and it looks really good.
Chanel 11-1 and 13-1 look good in HD. Rest of the chanels are ok.

So for a smaller 19" set is it worth the extra $16 a month for
the DVR Cable box and HDMI?

What would you do?

16 sounds expensive, how much for a NON-dvr HD box... I thought I read/or saw sometime back that buckeye had small HD boxes... but I wouldn't pay more than 5$ per month extra personally...

16 sounds expensive, how much for a NON-dvr HD box... I thought I read/or saw sometime back that buckeye had small HD boxes... but I wouldn't pay more than 5$ per month extra personally...

I called Buckeye again and got a different price this time.

$5.51 for HD box only.
$11.09 for Digital & HD
$16.60 for Digital, HD & DVR

Talked to a tech guy there and with just coax the local
HD channels are already included such as 11-1, 13-1 ect.

Question is, would it be worth it quality wise, at these
prices, for such a small set?

How long has WUPW had a sub channel? Bummer, I was hoping the bandwidth would remain all in 46.1 since I can't get the VHF signal from Fox in Detroit on my roof antenna.

The Fox splicer prevents the local station from touching the HD feed. This is good in that it means they cannot decrease the quality; however, it also means that the Fox network feed reserves space for a subchannel regardless of whether or not a subchannel exists. In a way, Fox stations are the only stations that can add a subchannel without taking a hit in quality.

WUPW 36-1 should not look any different during Fox network programming than it did before, and should not look any different than WJBK in Detroit.

- Trip

WUPW had a subchannel in the past - simple, continuous, weather radar, no gimmicks, though they briefly had Christmas music on audio, just before they cut the subchannel without notice, about 3 years ago, IIRC.

I notice recently that WTVG has replaced AccuWeather on 13.3 with a weather radar (no audio) like WUPW had, but with current temperatures superimposed on the map.

I wonder of this change is permanent, and if it has anything to do with ABC selling WTVG.

And for that matter, does Live Well go away with the sale of WTVG, or will ABC have a deal to keep it going?

FWIW, I note that by the evening of 1/29, WTVG 13.3 was back to the full AccuWeather program.

News note:

On or just before February 3rd, WLMB (40/RF5) over-the-air has switched from transmitting in SD (480i) mode to HD (1080i) mode.

I have not seen any actual HD content yet, but I have not watched it enough to say that there isn't any.

They may just be upconverting SD video to 1080i 3:4 and sending that out. Most of what I have seen so far is pillarboxed or gutterboxed, with the left and right side of the picture displaying only their logo.

Watched V this week and it seems 13 went right back to heavy DNR again. Joy. I guess they didn't listen after all.

The Fox splicer prevents the local station from touching the HD feed. This is good in that it means they cannot decrease the quality; however, it also means that the Fox network feed reserves space for a subchannel regardless of whether or not a subchannel exists. In a way, Fox stations are the only stations that can add a subchannel without taking a hit in quality.

WUPW 36-1 should not look any different during Fox network programming than it did before, and should not look any different than WJBK in Detroit.

- Trip

I just recorded comparisons that prove that WUPW-HD Pre-Super Bowl footage is about 1.5Mbps less (15.3Mbps) than WJBK-HD [Fox 2 Detroit] (16.7Mbps) It just took me a while to be able to record the same broadcast on both at the same time to confirm, but I'm convinced that sub channel is the culprit. Time to get a VHS roof antenna!

I just recorded comparisons that prove that WUPW-HD Pre-Super Bowl footage is about 1.5Mbps less (15.3Mbps) than WJBK-HD [Fox 2 Detroit] (16.7Mbps) It just took me a while to be able to record the same broadcast on both at the same time to confirm, but I'm convinced that sub channel is the culprit. Time to get a VHS roof antenna!

How good was your signal strength? I would believe that Detroit's looks better though. I think Fox HD looks awful.

Anyone else getting ESPN SD and ESPN2 SD in 16x9 today? Wasn't like this yesterday. I'm not complaining, but it's weird, the scroll at the bottom just says ESPN, not ESPN HD, so its just just a straight downconvert from the HD channel.

I didn't think ESPN had any plans to broadcast their sd channel in widescreen. Is this maybe just Buckeye's doing?

Anyone else getting ESPN SD and ESPN2 SD in 16x9 today? Wasn't like this yesterday. I'm not complaining, but it's weird, the scroll at the bottom just says ESPN, not ESPN HD, so its just just a straight downconvert from the HD channel.

I didn't think ESPN had any plans to broadcast their sd channel in widescreen. Is this maybe just Buckeye's doing?

Mine doesn't show the ESPN HD logo either, but it's definitely not upscaled, it's 720p like it's supposed to be so maybe it's just Buckeye, I have DirecTV.

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Buckeye isn't altering the feed. More channels will start to follow as it's cheaper to send out one feed.

http://www.jasonhansen.net/2011/02/10/espn-espn-2-espnu-hd/

On February 7, 2011, the primary standard definition feeds of ESPN, ESPN 2 and ESPNU switched from the 4:3 fullscreen to the 16:9 letterbox aspect ratio, becoming the third, fourth and fifth cable channels, respectively to be broadcast in the letterbox format full-time (after cable news channels Fox News Channel and CNN); unlike Fox Sports Net, which switched to letterbox format one week earlier, the three ESPN networks broadcast all programming (sports telecasts, sports news and opinion programs such as SportsCenter and commercial advertisements) letterboxed, while video broadcast exclusively in standard definition is pillarboxed. ESPNews and ESPN Classic continue to be broadcast in the 4:3 fullscreen format for their SD feeds.

Attempting to figure out why my TV won't display ANY Buckeye HD channels... I have the basic cable, but my TV isn't detecting any HD channels... The TV i have is a panasonic TH42PZ700U... no HD channels come through... is there something i have to do specifically? any help would be appreciated

Attempting to figure out why my TV won't display ANY Buckeye HD channels... I have the basic cable, but my TV isn't detecting any HD channels... The TV i have is a panasonic TH42PZ700U... no HD channels come through... is there something i have to do specifically? any help would be appreciated

Are you using an HD cable box + HDMI/component or just the coaxial cable????? If your not using a box just do a scan for digital channels on your tv if you haven't already.

Your TV needs to have a QAM tuner. If it does, check out this PDF document...

http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/lineup/lineups/HD-nobox-channels.pdf

@Nourdmrolnmt1

Is your cable drop connected directly to the RF (antenna/cable) jack on your set, or do you go through a box?

If you have a box supplied from Buckeye, it might be an SD box (especially if you added the new TV without changing a box you had been using with an analog TV). You can exchange the box for an HD box, but you will incur a small rate increase.

If your cable is connected directly to the set, try doing a channel scan. According to the Panasonic web site, your set does have a QAM tuner, and you should see a few Toledo broadcast stations in HD that way.

If you are getting cable through a box, and don't what to change your subscription, you can get broadcast HD by connecting an antenna to the antenna jack. If you have an antenna that gets Detroit stations, you'll get those in HD, and gain some subchannels Buckeye does not carry (This 4.2, RTV 7.2 - which often has a different program than 24.2 - and another PBS 56.2).

Now if you want cable channels (such as ESPN) in HD, an HD cable or satellite subscription is the only way to play.

Noticed this evening (3 March) WNWO had stopped carrying the "America One Television Network". Now 24.3 shows a graphic simply stating "America One Television will no longer be seen on digital channel 24.3"
This came suddenly, with no reason given, AFAIK.

I just purchased a RCA ANT751 antenna and I am getting most Toledo stations with little trouble, except for WNWO. I have the antenna aimed directly toward the towers, and I show 100% signal for WTOL & WTVG, but only about 40-50% at best for 24. Do they broadcast at a much lower strength? Is there something else that could explain the huge difference in signal strength I'm receiving?

I just purchased a RCA ANT751 antenna and I am getting most Toledo stations with little trouble, except for WNWO. I have the antenna aimed directly toward the towers, and I show 100% signal for WTOL & WTVG, but only about 40-50% at best for 24. Do they broadcast at a much lower strength? Is there something else that could explain the huge difference in signal strength I'm receiving?

WNWO does operate at less than maximum power, but should still be more than strong enough for reception in BG with an outdoor antenna.

Have you checked your connections, both at the antenna and your set?

Keep in mind that the Toledo TV stations transmit from Oregon, OH - east of Toledo and immediately south of Lake Erie, and that WNWO's tower is the easternmost of that whole group. See if turning the antenna a little further to the east may help.

The problem may be in the "last kilometer" - your immediate surroundings. Could there be a building in the path from WNWO to your home?

I'm curious if you're getting WLMB (virtual channel 40 - but actually transmitting on low band VHF Channel 5 from near Jasper, MI) - I wouldn't expect that little antenna to work on lowband.

Good luck

Connections are all good. Again, I'm getting 100% on ABC and CBS. I do not get WLMB, although when I set the antenna up I did get Detroit channel 2, but it since has not come in. There are tress in my backyard and in most yards in the neighborhood, but no tall buildings directly in the path. I would assume if it were a building in the last kilometer or so, would it not also interfere with the other Toledo stations, since the distance from BG to Oregon is so great, the separation of the towers is almost negligible?

I bought a larger antenna today and I'll give that a try and let you know how it works out. Thanks for the help.

Oh, one other thing. I'm also getting multiple versions of all the Toledo 11 stations (11.1, 11.1, 11.2, 11.2 etc) This is only occurring on my Panasonic TV. My Sony TV hooked to the same antenna does not have this problem. Is that likely something specific to the set?

Oh, one other thing. I'm also getting multiple versions of all the Toledo 11 stations (11.1, 11.1, 11.2, 11.2 etc) This is only occurring on my Panasonic TV. My Sony TV hooked to the same antenna does not have this problem. Is that likely something specific to the set?

It's probably just the way your TV scans for channels. If you reset to the defaults and rescan they would probably disappear.

Instead of spending money and messing around with trying to get all the local channels, why not just get cable or satellite? Time Warners cheapest package offers the locals + a little extra. Although it would suck to pay for something you can get for free.

HD is not cheap, that's the main reason.

I've come close with the antenna, but not 100% right yet. I originally had it in the attic, and tried it outside. 24 comes in fine, but now, no matter where I put it or where I aim it, 11,1 doesn't come in. In the attic, 11.1 was at 100% signal. I still can get 11.2 at about 70-80%. Does this make any sense?

HD is not cheap, that's the main reason.

I've come close with the antenna, but not 100% right yet. I originally had it in the attic, and tried it outside. 24 comes in fine, but now, no matter where I put it or where I aim it, 11,1 doesn't come in. In the attic, 11.1 was at 100% signal. I still can get 11.2 at about 70-80%. Does this make any sense?

From an RF standpoint, NO! they are on the same RF stream.
It sounds like either your set is looking for an actual 11.1 stream, which does not exist (like most stations, virtual 11.1 is actual RF 11.3).

Another possibility is that you did a scan when "tropospheric refraction" was in (which is why you once saw WJBK Detroit), and your set scanned another station whose virtual channel is 11 (Chicago, Louisville or Pittsburgh)

Try another complete scan, and good luck.

This morning, my TiVo notified me of a new channel - 608 - BCSN in HD. How cool. Way to go Buckeye - can't wait to see some Hens' games in HD!

WTOL 11 local news is now in HD. The 1080i broadcast is far superior to the soft 720P channel 13 version ( although I prefer watching 13 news).

Watching 11 news with Petterson's "side-mullet" is too distracting

WTOL 11 local news is now in HD. The 1080i broadcast is far superior to the soft 720P channel 13 version ( although I prefer watching 13 news).

Watching 11 news with Petterson's "side-mullet" is too distracting

I don't know that 13 is soft by design, but filtered and noise reduced to the 'nth degree. I was complaining about V a little while ago, and the more I see from them, I realize it's pretty consistent.

But yeah, 11 looks good. Cleaner and definitely more natural looking, or at least as far as cable digital can make it so.

I don't know that 13 is soft by design, but filtered and noise reduced to the 'nth degree. I was complaining about V a little while ago, and the more I see from them, I realize it's pretty consistent.

But yeah, 11 looks good. Cleaner and definitely more natural looking, or at least as far as cable digital can make it so.

You may be right about the DNR on 13. Now that folks can do a instant comparison between the two I hope this prods 13 into trying to produce better PQ, at least within the confines of 720P. 720P never looks as clear and sharp as 1080i.

I don't know that 13 is soft by design, but filtered and noise reduced to the 'nth degree. I was complaining about V a little while ago, and the more I see from them, I realize it's pretty consistent.

But yeah, 11 looks good. Cleaner and definitely more natural looking, or at least as far as cable digital can make it so.

I just noticed last night because I usually watch 13 too but I'm definitely more inclined to flip to 11 now and then because it's HD. I can't stand SD and usually won't watch anything in SD.

Hopefully NBC and Fox won't be far behind on switching over to HD although I've never liked WNWOs broadcast, their set just looks so cheap and old.

Does anyone have firewire working on their boxes and if so, what channels seem to work with it? Thanks.

Does anyone have firewire working on their boxes and if so, what channels seem to work with it? Thanks.

It used to work on my old Motorola DVR about 4 years ago. But after that, I havent gotten it to work with any box. Im pretty sure EVERY channel is encrypted over firewire now.

June 30th, 2011
660 Science
661 Planet Green
666 Nickelodeon
674 MTV
675 Vh1
677 Spike
678 Comedy Central

July 14th, 2011
601 Hallmark Channel HD
600 AMC HD
665 Cartoon Network

June 30th, 2011
660 Science
661 Planet Green
666 Nickelodeon
674 MTV
675 Vh1
677 Spike
678 Comedy Central

July 14th, 2011
601 Hallmark Channel HD
600 AMC HD
665 Cartoon Network


Woo hoo! Spike and Comedy Central are the last two I need before everything I regularly watch is HD. Great news.

Does anyone have firewire working on their boxes and if so, what channels seem to work with it? Thanks.

I have several of the old MOTO boxes (6412) and the firewire is still open and unencrypted on my boxes. I record almost everything I want to either DVHS or a PC.

Is the analog HSN signal out of Toledo? If broadcast analog TV was shut down in 2009 then why are there still analog stations being broadcast in the US today? I also get a analog station out of Findlay.

Is the analog HSN signal out of Toledo? If broadcast analog TV was shut down in 2009 then why are there still analog stations being broadcast in the US today? I also get a analog station out of Findlay.

?? Uh what is the station ID for the analog out of Findlay. This is impossible unless it is some sort of low power experimental station. No commercial outlet can be analog.

?? Uh what is the station ID for the analog out of Findlay. This is impossible unless it is some sort of low power experimental station. No commercial outlet can be analog.

The Findlay station is most likely WFND-LP on UHF 22. It's basically an America One repeater.

The Findlay station is most likely WFND-LP on UHF 22. It's basically an America One repeater.

That makes sense.

The Findlay station is most likely WFND-LP on UHF 22. It's basically an America One repeater.

That's the one, it's very fuzzy too.

Now that CBET/9 Windsor has gone digital...

Is anyone in NW Ohio or along the lake in generally getting them OTA now?

I read somewhere that Buckeye, after a brief outage right after the switch, fixed CBET on cable...is that correct?

Now that CBET/9 Windsor has gone digital...

Is anyone in NW Ohio or along the lake in generally getting them OTA now?

The CBET-DT transmitter is located in McGregor, ON, which is south by southeast of Downtown Windsor about 10 miles; it's about 45 miles to Toledo, most of them over Lake Erie. I'd think anyone in the Toledo area with an outdoor antenna could receive CBET, especially those close to the water.

They flash cut to digital around midnight on 9/1, same VHF channel 9.

The CBET-DT transmitter is located in McGregor, ON, which is south by southeast of Downtown Windsor about 10 miles; it's about 45 miles to Toledo, most of them over Lake Erie. I'd think anyone in the Toledo area with an outdoor antenna could receive CBET, especially those close to the water.

They flash cut to digital around midnight on 9/1, same VHF channel 9.

Yep, I'm aware of that...all of that. I'm just wondering how the switch has affected OTA reception in Toledo/NW Ohio...and a confirmation of what I've read elsewhere, that Buckeye has fixed the CBET feed post-flash cut.

We used to get CBET on Time Warner Cable but they took it off a few years ago. I actually enjoyed watching it too, we used to get a few locals from other markets.
CBET Windsor
TheCW 50 Detroit
MyNetwork Cleveland
and people in Findlay got CBS Columbus but I'm pretty sure all of the above is now gone.

Last year we still got TheCW50 of QAM on cable but I think it's gone now.

We used to get CBET on Time Warner Cable but they took it off a few years ago. I actually enjoyed watching it too, we used to get a few locals from other markets.
CBET Windsor
TheCW 50 Detroit
MyNetwork Cleveland
and people in Findlay got CBS Columbus but I'm pretty sure all of the above is now gone.


Correct, at least as it pertains to CBET and WBNS/Columbus. They both went away at about the same time, as TWC trimmed out of market locals. (Same process zapped WQLN/Erie off TWC systems in extreme NE Ohio, though complaints led them to offer WQLN on a digital tier later.)

I actually stopped and stayed in Findlay on a road trip based solely on the availability of CBET on analog cable.

I actually stopped and stayed in Findlay on a road trip based solely on the availability of CBET on analog cable.

When? Was it still available? I wasn't sure if CBET went as far south as Findlay, we had it on TWC in North Baltimore but it's the Bowling Green TWC market which differs slightly from the Findlay one (at least it did).

Anybody hear anything about if Buckeye is going to be getting ESPN 3D ?

When? Was it still available? I wasn't sure if CBET went as far south as Findlay, we had it on TWC in North Baltimore but it's the Bowling Green TWC market which differs slightly from the Findlay one (at least it did).

My road trip was about 2-3 years ago. I specifically asked the hotel if it had cable and if CBET/CBC was in the lineup. :D

I'm reading elsewhere that Buckeye may be having weather related problems picking up CBET's new digital signal.

When? Was it still available? I wasn't sure if CBET went as far south as Findlay, we had it on TWC in North Baltimore but it's the Bowling Green TWC market which differs slightly from the Findlay one (at least it did).

I used to work in Findlay. I know CBET was on channel 19 until I left in January '06.

DCX3400 with External HD? I had to turn in my Pace Micro due to an issue and all Buckeye had was the Moto DCX3400. The DVR has an eSATA port and they assured me it was active.
I have a reformated WD DVR Expander eSATA only drive that I connected when I set up the new drive and after taking a while with no messages the DVR booted up and I was able to get into the service menu in the usual way. It shows 2 drives connected by when selecting drive two it shows System N/A, DVR N/A, etc and while it shows as 500GB it doesn't appear to be shown as used. I had some recordings already on the 3400 at 25% and with the add on drive it is still showing 25%. Does anyone kknow the trick to get the DCX3400 to not only know that there's a second drive connected but properly format it an use the space? I tried this a couple times and unlike the Pace it doesn't give you a message option to format the external drive on boot up when it first sees the external drive so you don't know if it's formatting automatically or not.
Thanks.

Two things, speaking about Buckeye here in both cases:

1. Does NFL Redzone just look AWFUL for anyone else? I'm seeing lines, boatloads of chroma noise, smearing, and way more artifacting than normal for cable. Anyone have a different provider and does it look decent?

2. On NBC, anyone getting a weird "moving" audio? Don't know how else to describe it, and it's usually during commercials (during Sunday Night Football; don't watch anything else on NBC). The audio just begins switching channels at random across the fronts. Dialogue seems to be warping across the room. I'm also hearing this over the air, so I'm assuming it's the network feed.

Two things, speaking about Buckeye here in both cases:

1. Does NFL Redzone just look AWFUL for anyone else? I'm seeing lines, boatloads of chroma noise, smearing, and way more artifacting than normal for cable. Anyone have a different provider and does it look decent?

2. On NBC, anyone getting a weird "moving" audio? Don't know how else to describe it, and it's usually during commercials (during Sunday Night Football; don't watch anything else on NBC). The audio just begins switching channels at random across the fronts. Dialogue seems to be warping across the room. I'm also hearing this over the air, so I'm assuming it's the network feed.

Number, one, not sure, dont get that channel.

Number two, I know exactly what you are talking about. Almost like the voices on commercials are going from front to rear to front. I am 99% sure that is a problem with wnwo's master control. If you notice, it only happens during local commercial breaks, and not with national spots.

Number, one, not sure, dont get that channel.

Number two, I know exactly what you are talking about. Almost like the voices on commercials are going from front to rear to front. I am 99% sure that is a problem with wnwo's master control. If you notice, it only happens during local commercial breaks, and not with national spots.

At least it's not just me then. ;) I'll listen again this week, but I'd swear it was during any commercial, not just the local stuff.

I'm at my sisters house right outside North Baltimore (it's across the county line in Hancock county so technically it's Van Buren).

Anyway on one of her TVs that doesn't have a DirecTV set-to-box channels WADL (38.1, .2, .3 and .4) show up. Also, from time to time she can even recieve Fort Wayne stations.

I just found this strange that the antenna they have has such a great range. I'm pretty sure that her husband bought it on eBay (before that had DTV) and it's in the attic. I know at my brother house in Perrysburg that Detroit locals down show up, I assume his antenna isn't as good because it doesn't have to be to receive all the Toledo stations.

Anybody hear anything about if Buckeye is going to be getting ESPN 3D ?

I just worked a ESPN 3D football game... Don't be surprised to see ESPN drop the 3D channel. It is supported by Sony, who supplied most of the gear.
That contract runs out in approx six months. Right now 3D production is expensive and to do it right, and it means facilities have to give TV more "right of ways" I'll call them. And that's great for a one offs, but for every show... the camera position requirements will upset the venues.

I am not that impressed with 3D TV anyway...

"I am not that impressed with 3D TV anyway..."

Neither am I - and predict it is a short lived fad.

I have a 3D TV in my bedroom and I never even bought the glasses. It really doesn't interest me. I've seen a movie in 3D and didn't care for it much.

3D done well is spectacular. I have a calibrated 3D projector and at 106" 3D can blow you out of the room. There is a hardcore 3D following (try AVS 3D forum) that insures that is goes way beyond a fad. Several major directors have now produced 3D films and the recent results are incredible.

On Thanksgiving I had some 3D skeptics sit down in the theater room and watch some 3D blurays. They were converted :)

3D done well is spectacular. I have a calibrated 3D projector and at 106" 3D can blow you out of the room. There is a hardcore 3D following (try AVS 3D forum) that insures that is goes way beyond a fad. Several major directors have now produced 3D films and the recent results are incredible.

On Thanksgiving I had some 3D skeptics sit down in the theater room and watch some 3D blurays. They were converted :)

Well yeah, 3D done right is probably awesome. Most (average consumer) set ups are 42" to 60" HDTVs then it just doesn't seem as cool. It's a much more immersive experience in a movie theater or some place with a very large display.

Sounds like you've got an awesome theater room.

Looks like Buckeye is getting a new guide:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/buckeye-cablesystem-to-launch-rovi-totalguide-solution-for-set-tops-tablets-and-smartphones-2011-11-15

Who knows how long it will be. I will ask some contacts I have at Buckeye and see if they have a timeline.

Of course, as soon as I ditch Buckeye's DVR for a cablecard tuner for my computer, they get a new guide with the one feature I wanted: the ability to schedule recordings via a phone or computer.

Now that CBET/9 Windsor has gone digital...

Is anyone in NW Ohio or along the lake in generally getting them OTA now?


This is still an open question that I'd like to know the answer to.

Looks like Buckeye is getting a new guide:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/buckeye-cablesystem-to-launch-rovi-totalguide-solution-for-set-tops-tablets-and-smartphones-2011-11-15

Who knows how long it will be. I will ask some contacts I have at Buckeye and see if they have a timeline.

The DirecTV HD guide is STILL in beta. I have friends with TWC and their guide is still awful, at least the DirecTV guide fills a 16x9 screen and makes use of it. Not only that it's fast but somewhat boring looking.

This is still an open question that I'd like to know the answer to.

I just got an antenna to play with and I can never receive and TV stations from the Detroit/Windsor area. I heard it was because the strength of the Toledo stations overpowers them but I have been able to receive stations from Cleveland, Columbus, Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Dayton, Cincinnati and Lansing. I only got those at night though, I usually only get Lima/Toledo.

However, I never had problems receiving FM stations like 88.7 (CIMX) and 101.1 (WRIF), I also listen to 800am (Windsor) and 760 (Detroit). I wish TWC would of never taken away CBC Windsor and The CW50 Detroit.

Question about the new guide. Will I be able to keep my Moto boxes and just do an update to the new guides? The Moto boxes have firewire out and that is a very good thing :)

I just got an antenna to play with and I can never receive and TV stations from the Detroit/Windsor area. I heard it was because the strength of the Toledo stations overpowers them but I have been able to receive stations from Cleveland, Columbus, Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Dayton, Cincinnati and Lansing. I only got those at night though, I usually only get Lima/Toledo.

However, I never had problems receiving FM stations like 88.7 (CIMX) and 101.1 (WRIF), I also listen to 800am (Windsor) and 760 (Detroit). I wish TWC would of never taken away CBC Windsor and The CW50 Detroit.What does your TV Fool look like?

What does your TV Fool look like?

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dec129755909b26

My antenna also isn't very big. I bought it with the intentions of just messing around with it, it's the RCA ANT751R with a Winegard 8275 pre-amp (which I probably shouldn't of bought).

During normal daytime use I just get the usual Toledo/Lima stations.

I heard back from my contact at Buckeye. The guide is pretty far off. We are looking at perhaps sometime next year. Who knows at this point, I got the impression that there wasn't any testing even happening yet.

The new guide is capable of running on current hardware, according to what I have read. So I assume that it would keep firewire as an output option. I will be sure to pass that request along to my contact when the time comes for testing.

CBET is fine just East of Temperance (3.5 miles North of the state line), but there is not much headroom, the antenna (CM 3020, about 32' up, no amp) usually needs to be aimed at McGregor.

CBET is fine just East of Temperance (3.5 miles North of the state line), but there is not much headroom, the antenna (CM 3020, about 32' up, no amp) usually needs to be aimed at McGregor.

I would hope so that antenna is HUGE. I would love to mess around with one like that but there's no way I'm putting a 10 foot antenna on my roof just to play with. So I'm guessing you get all the Detroit/Toledo locals too?

Hope Buckeye doesn't try to pull this crap. I'd drop them in a second.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2011/12/01/u_s_isps_preparing_to_screw_over_consumers_and_move_to_usage-based_pricing?utm_source=newsletterENG&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20111202

Hope Buckeye doesn't try to pull this crap. I'd drop them in a second.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2011/12/01/u_s_isps_preparing_to_screw_over_consumers_and_move_to_usage-based_pricing?utm_source=newsletterENG&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20111202

It's just some guy predicting it. That would be a HUGE step backwards.

As it gets cheaper and cheaper for broadband companies to provide us broadband (deploying it and increasing speed) their prices just keep going up. Broadband IS NOT FINITE, so why put a cap on a home connection? It's not like it's going to dry up and run out some day...

I get it, it's all about maximizing profit and they don't care how many customers they have to screw because usually it's them or the DSL company.

http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/new/

9 new HD channels, and not a single one of them I would ever watch...

DIY is cool, looks like we are just hitting the end of main stream channels, so now its the outlying HD channels left to add.

http://www.buckeyecablesystem.com/new/

9 new HD channels, and not a single one of them I would ever watch...

Well, speaking only for myself, seeing as how Food Network has largely ceased to be about cooking and more like Reality TV (which I despise) I'm glad to see The Cooking Channel HD.

Well, speaking only for myself, seeing as how Food Network has largely ceased to be about cooking and more like Reality TV (which I despise) I'm glad to see The Cooking Channel HD.

Sounds like MTV.

More HD is always a good thing unless bits are rationed (which I don't believe is done by BEX with HD)

Looks like Buckeye is upping their game a bit:

Buckeye CableSystem has some big plans for 2012, say both Mefferd and Jensen, and the year shapes up to look like this:

• Finishing its evaluation of whole-home solutions, including final tests with a DVR vendor

• Offering additional content on the IP side

• A major upgrade of the network that will result in an eight-fold increase in capacity

• Expanding the SD tier from 8 QAM, and integrating its VOD and switched digital capabilities to one platform that fits both

• Separating DOCSIS 2.0 and DOCSIS 3.0 subscribers

• Adding such hosted services as a unified messaging portal and single-number follow me calling

• Adding Caller ID and billing options onto the TV

• More EBIF applications

• TV Everywhere functionality with iPads

• Continued work with Rovi to develop a better guide

• Increasing the speed of the Buckeye Express offering

“Buckeye is a true operator in every sense of the word,” Mefferd concludes. “We care about the community and the people we serve, and we are dedicated to first-class service.”

Besides bolstering its employee roster, Buckeye is focusing on growing its high-speed data services and more voice along with some new commercial accounts; during the last 12 months, it has enhanced its SIP-based services and hosted stations, Jensen notes, adding, “Ethernet has grown by leaps and bounds along with colocation and storage.” Moving forward, Buckeye is preparing for the soft launch of wireless service via an agreement with Sprint.

“We are going to launch first in the commercial sector under the name Blue Mobile because we are starting out with no storefronts and no inventory,” Jensen says. “We also will offer hotspots around Toledo and covering the park where the Mud Hens play.”

(Not really an HDTV issue - but, posted here, since there is no "OTA-Toledo" thread)

WTOL, who had replaced their new/weather loop on subchannel 11.2 several days ago with a silent radar graphic, has flipped to "Me TV", with vintage television series shows.

By my observation so far, IMHO, it offers a better line of programs than RTV ever did.

(Not really an HDTV issue - but, posted here, since there is no "OTA-Toledo" thread)

WTOL, who had replaced their new/weather loop on subchannel 11.2 several days ago with a silent radar graphic, has flipped to "Me TV", with vintage television series shows.

By my observation so far, IMHO, it offers a better line of programs than RTV ever did.

I would honestly rather just watch the radar. But I guess you can just look at WTVG's 13.3 (or is it 13.2?).

(Not really an HDTV issue - but, posted here, since there is no "OTA-Toledo" thread).If there was enough usage for a separate OTA topic, we'd create one. With smaller TV markets a single topic is typically more than enough.

Toledo is roughly the 73rd largest TV market. To find another TV market with more than a single topic you have to jump up 20 spots to the 53 largest.

So, even though the title is misleading, feel free to discuss all local DTV issues here.

Buckeye selects Arris for whole home solutions:

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/03/14/4336170/buckeye-cablesystem-selects-arris.html

Does anyone actually get WLMB OTA? I'm just curious because I've never picked it up here and my brother lives in Perrysburg and he doesn't get it there either. I remember when I was little I could receive PAX OTA because I didn't have cable in my room so I just hooked up some rabbit ears and it came in.

It must be a clear night because I am getting PBS and ABC Detroit.
CBS Toledo doesn't come in and ABC Toledo is pixelated but ABC and CBS Lima come in fine.

Does anyone actually get WLMB OTA? I'm just curious because I've never picked it up here and my brother lives in Perrysburg and he doesn't get it there either. I remember when I was little I could receive PAX OTA because I didn't have cable in my room so I just hooked up some rabbit ears and it came in.

It must be a clear night because I am getting PBS and ABC Detroit.
CBS Toledo doesn't come in and ABC Toledo is pixelated but ABC and CBS Lima come in fine.

I'm gonna guess you are using an indoor antenna.

WLMB is a rare VHF-lowband DTV station, their RF channel (the channel on which they actually send out their signal) is channel 5.

For all intents and purposes, receiving WLMB anywhere requires an outdoor antenna. Even if their electromagnetic waves (about 12 feet long) can penetrate your house, the gadgets in a typical 21st century home produce enough RFI to jam it (you may think of low-VHF DTV as being like AM radio in this regard).

My antenna on a chimney 24 miles from WLMB works fine unless the antenna is aimed away from them. The funnier case is with some relatives of mine who live just north of Carleton, about 35 miles from WLMB. Their antenna is a big "wedge" model that dates back to about 1970. It has lost most of its elements to the weather over the decades, and cannot get most of the Detroit nor Toledo stations - but it does get WLMB!

If you are near North Baltimore, you are 40-45 miles from WLMB, and WLMB is only 10kW on a 500' tower (half as tall as most TV towers around here). You would need a directional antenna designed for all channels (or a rare lowband VHF yagi) - both would be relatively large antennas, and it would have to be outdoors and at some height (maybe 30'/9m or so). You might find it is not worth the bother. Most of the programming is religion (exception being vintage sitcoms in afternoons). Pax is now Ion and WLMB is not affiliated with Ion today.

I'm gonna guess you are using an indoor antenna.

WLMB is a rare VHF-lowband DTV station, their RF channel (the channel on which they actually send out their signal) is channel 5.

For all intents and purposes, receiving WLMB anywhere requires an outdoor antenna. Even if their electromagnetic waves (about 12 feet long) can penetrate your house, the gadgets in a typical 21st century home produce enough RFI to jam it (you may think of low-VHF DTV as being like AM radio in this regard).

My antenna on a chimney 24 miles from WLMB works fine unless the antenna is aimed away from them. The funnier case is with some relatives of mine who live just north of Carleton, about 35 miles from WLMB. Their antenna is a big "wedge" model that dates back to about 1970. It has lost most of its elements to the weather over the decades, and cannot get most of the Detroit nor Toledo stations - but it does get WLMB!

If you are near North Baltimore, you are 40-45 miles from WLMB, and WLMB is only 10kW on a 500' tower (half as tall as most TV towers around here). You would need a directional antenna designed for all channels (or a rare lowband VHF yagi) - both would be relatively large antennas, and it would have to be outdoors and at some height (maybe 30'/9m or so). You might find it is not worth the bother. Most of the programming is religion (exception being vintage sitcoms in afternoons). Pax is now Ion and WLMB is not affiliated with Ion today.
I'm really not concerned with getting it at all. I never watch it and I get it through DirecTV but I thought about it some more and you're right. It's a low power station and relatively far away but it's also low-VHF so it's hard to get anyway.

Well, "Raycheap" (Raycom) does it again. WUPW's operations have now been merged with WTOL's, the result of American Spirit Media LLC acquiring the station from LIN Media. The deal was made final this past Friday. And with this merger via a shared services agreement, the news shows on WUPW are now in HD (previously, WUPW was the last remaining station in Toledo whose newscasts weren't in either HD or widescreen SD).

I noticed the new anchor and set at 11:00pm but it was still in 480i.

I noticed the new anchor and set at 11:00pm but it was still in 480i.

I stand corrected. When American Spirit Media took ownership of WUPW, master control was transferred to a backup set at the WTOL facility, which currently isn't HD- or widescreen-capable (WTOL itself currently has HD news but does not air syndicated HD-produced programming in either HD or widescreen). The upgrade to HD will be complete once WTOL upgrades the master control used for WUPW in the coming months.

Yellow all, everytime I watch American Idol on fox (in HD) with a surround sound, it seems my audio is always cutting out for second every five minutes.
Very annoying. Anyone else notice this? Never noticed this on any other channel.:confused:

Buckeye selects Arris for whole home solutions:

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/03/14/4336170/buckeye-cablesystem-selects-arris.html


This is now available, and it is a HUGE improvement in terms of guide and functionality...

This is now available, and it is a HUGE improvement in terms of guide and functionality...

Are you saying its being offered already... I heard thru a installer about 1+ month ago that employees were testing it and it would roll out soon, but have not seen mention of it on the website or billing yet... Any details on pricing? Thanks

Are you saying its being offered already... I heard thru a installer about 1+ month ago that employees were testing it and it would roll out soon, but have not seen mention of it on the website or billing yet... Any details on pricing? Thanks

$28 for the main box, $5 for individual TV boxes, per month of course.

We've had struggles with the system so far. We actually have a guy coming out today to look at it. Constant video skipping, internet issues are non-stop.

I like the functionality (and it's much cheaper than the DVRs we had), but if it can't be sorted out, it may be ditched.

$28 for the main box, $5 for individual TV boxes, per month of course.

We've had struggles with the system so far. We actually have a guy coming out today to look at it. Constant video skipping, internet issues are non-stop.

I like the functionality (and it's much cheaper than the DVRs we had), but if it can't be sorted out, it may be ditched.

Hmmm.. 28 main box.. I am not sure what I pay now for that... Guess will have to see when they roll out. I know a couple months ago I priced out a second HD box (non-dvr) and they quoted me 3 times, 3 different prices from 12-16 per month... no thanks... but if I can do 2 boxes for what I pay now I'll be in for that. As is my bill is too much with VIP pricing (170 month)... Every 6 months I reevaluate cutting cable and phone...

Just a note. We had a tech out to fix a mountain of issues were having, and he told us that next month, Buckeye will be implementing a data cap of 500GB per month. It'll be $10 every 50GB after that. Letters will be sent to all customers.

Edit: It's more strict than that.

5MB down - 200GB cap
15 - 250
25 - 350
35 - 400
60 - 500
100 - 1000

Hmmm.. 28 main box.. I am not sure what I pay now for that... Guess will have to see when they roll out. I know a couple months ago I priced out a second HD box (non-dvr) and they quoted me 3 times, 3 different prices from 12-16 per month... no thanks... but if I can do 2 boxes for what I pay now I'll be in for that. As is my bill is too much with VIP pricing (170 month)... Every 6 months I reevaluate cutting cable and phone...

DVRs should be $15 a month. That's what we were paying.

Just a note. We had a tech out to fix a mountain of issues were having, and he told us that next month, Buckeye will be implementing a data cap of 500GB per month. It'll be $10 every 50GB after that. Letters will be sent to all customers.

Edit: It's more strict than that.

5MB down - 200GB cap
15 - 250
25 - 350
35 - 400
60 - 500
100 - 1000

I need to find a different ISP to boycott this problem. This cap is absolutely ridiculous. I don't care if other ISP's have been doing this too.....I stuck with buckeye because they always have been unlimited and never cared what I was doing with my connection. This is nothing more than another company who is monopolizing the market for them to make more profit off of a dumb consumer base. This is a complete scam. If I could find a way to sue them for monopolizing the market, I would in a heart beat.

I need to find a different ISP to boycott this problem. This cap is absolutely ridiculous. I don't care if other ISP's have been doing this too.....I stuck with buckeye because they always have been unlimited and never cared what I was doing with my connection. This is nothing more than another company who is monopolizing the market for them to make more profit off of a dumb consumer base. This is a complete scam. If I could find a way to sue them for monopolizing the market, I would in a heart beat.

Where else can you go? Any other local provider has caps, and I believe they're less than what Buckeye is offering, so you're boycotting one to land in the lap of another.

Plan of action? Buckeye needs City Council approval to do anything; expansion, lay new lines, etc. Call your council person. Tell them not to allow anything else.

Where else can you go?

Nowhere. Unless a company comes in and builds a network to compete with Buckeye shows up.

I never understand people when they say Buckeye CableSystem has a monopoly. Any company, Time Warner, Comacast, etc... can come in and build their own network to provide service. Most don't though because it's usually not cost effective while another MSO is entrenched within an area. Just like another city may be all Comcast, because no other company wants to overbuild. While I don't necessarily agree with bandwidth caps, unfortunately that is where all residential ISP's are headed.

I never understand people when they say Buckeye CableSystem has a monopoly. Any company, Time Warner, Comacast, etc... can come in and build their own network to provide service.

They can only provide that service if the city/locality gives permission for use of its right-of-ways.

- Trip

They can only provide that service if the city/locality gives permission for use of its right-of-ways.

- Trip

Exactly. And, in the case of Verizon who wanted to bring in FIOS, City Council said no. I'm sure Buckeye had a hand in that decision somehow.

They can only provide that service if the city/locality gives permission for use of its right-of-ways.

- Trip
That's typically a thing of the past. Most municipalities have eliminated that kind of control over cable and video services.

Exactly. And, in the case of Verizon who wanted to bring in FIOS, City Council said no.Really? Can you post a link or two regarding that? Thanks.

Exactly. And, in the case of Verizon who wanted to bring in FIOS, City Council said no. I'm sure Buckeye had a hand in that decision somehow.

Where is it stated that City Council said no to FIOS? Also, if Buckeye CableSystem had a hand in that decision, FIOS would have went further up the chain then stopping there.

"The Telecommunications Act of 1996 promised salvation by allowing competitors to "overbuild" on top of entrenched local cable companies. - SOURCE: http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0416/144.html"

Yes, the article is old, but the facts remain the same.

Yellow all, everytime I watch American Idol on fox (in HD) with a surround sound, it seems my audio is always cutting out for second every five minutes.
Very annoying. Anyone else notice this? Never noticed this on any other channel.:confused:

bump:)

Sounds fine on d* here in Toledo for what it's worth.