DishNetwork has just introduced its new MPEG-4 HDTV receivers, and is adding about 5 new HDTV channels to its already good assortment of HDTV channels.

I believe after these are added in February, DishNetwork will have at least 25 HDTV channels, where the average cable system carries 10.

Cox offers four HDTV channels locally but you can pay more for HBO, Discovery HD, StarsHD and ShowtimeHD.

My understanding is that Cox's Lubbock Assets was sold to Cebridge Connections. No clue as to when they are to takeover Lubbock. According to there website www.cebridge.net they are only offering a basic and expanded package. They are a small company and the purchase of some of Cox's areas has made them a much bigger company. With that said they are still pretty small and if HDTV is your main concern I would stick with a sat company because I do not see Cebridges main concern being HDTV, and is a provider for small communties.

KCBD11 was recently added to Cox's cable system, the only HD local they are missing now is KJTV.

As soon as I can I am adding a DishNetwork ViP622 to my arsenal.

It is their new mpeg4 HD DVR, available as of February 1.

I hope to get it to record and see some of the Olympics in HD other than on KCBD.

With their new mpeg4 receivers you should get 25+ HD channels from DishNetwork.

With UPN/WB merger/collapse and the new WC network, what is going to happen to KWBZ(22) and KUPT-LP(14) when their networks "merge"?

I think KUPT-LP will go away because it is based on a repeater and the original signal is from Hobbs. Im not correct but I think they are both RAMAR stations which is good because they support HD, hopefully by the time this comes on it will be in HD.

Word from RAMAR:

We are working on our plans for the fall at this time. At this time we presumably will run the new CK network on channel, 22 and channel 14 will have the same programming that was on UPN except for the 10 hours of programming that UPN will no longer provides. UPN provided 7% of our programming week which is easily replaced. We will continue to air Star Trek Enterprise, 24, Extra, Family Feud, Alias, My Wife and Kids, King of the Hill, Malcolm in the Middle, Access Hollywood, Ebert and Roper, Big 12 basketball, and weekend movies. The good shows we will loose from channel 14 will end up the CK network station.

Anyone know if there still scheduled to power up the digital transmitter at the end of the year? If the new CB network powers up in HD maybe that would help get Texas Size in gear and increase there power, and go HD.

Last I heard from KLBK/KAMC was in April. Then they said they would go full power with HD capability in 2006, but no specific date.

I'll email them again to see how it's coming.

Last I heard from KLBK/KAMC was in April. Then they said they would go full power with HD capability in 2006, but no specific date.

I'll email them again to see how it's coming.


They should have already if they were smart since kamc has the superbowl on Sunday. Their digital channel doesn't look much better than their sd channel. For being "Texas sized" all the other local stations are leaving them in the dust when it comes to HD. But still, it would be nice if they would decide to join the rest of the pack.

On another subject, has anyone in Lubbock tried to make a dish hd upgrade and if so how did it go? I've heard good and bad things about the csr's.

I ordered a ViP622 about 7am yesterday morning. I was on hold about 15 minutes, and got a CSR that was out of the country, but she was knowledgable and the entire transaction took about 10 minutes. I'm scheduled for installation February 21.

I have discovered something interesting, My Radio Shack U75-R antenna outside on the east end of my house pulls in all the digital channels EXCEPT KAMC-DT. I also have an old VHF/UHF in the attic mounted in the center of the house and it pulls in all the digitals except KLBK-DT (KAMC is pretty weak and drops out from time to time). I guess this shows that positioning might be more important than height in some cases.

I have a more sensitive tuner in a HTPC (ATI HDTV Wonder) and it is able to get all channels on both antennas - only problem - I haven't figured out a working connection to my Sony D-50 projector.

Well when my DishNetwork ViP622 gets here, we'll see how sensitive it's tuner is.

Something else interesting. Switching back and forth between KAMC/28 and KAMC-DT - KAMC/28's picture is actually crisper and clearer. This is viewing on the same analog TV. It might be different on a TV with a digital input, but the analog picture through my TiVo to TV with composite output is better than the digital picture from my Accurian 6000 composite output.

Comparing the composite output from the TiVo to my Sony D-50 projector to the component output from the Accurian to the Sony, the analog still looks crisper, curious.

I have an indoor ota antenna and have the same problem with texas size. It's a cheap $30 amplified Hd (ha ha) antenna. It's not really any better than the rabbit ears I 1st had hooked up to my dish 811. Just thought texas size would come in better. I've heard that they have their towers too close together. I live near the station and there are 2 towers right next to each other. Usually have an easier time picking up 13 than 28. And their DT's look about the same as their regular channels on my TV.

At least monday night football is moving to ESPN HD! (which I've noticed is now in DD 5.1)

Proximity should not be a problem, some cities co-locate 3-5 stations on one tower complex. They are probably just biding their time untilthe higher power HD transmitter is installed (Hope, Hope!)

In my neck of the woods, It is impossible to get digital CBS. My average signal is only 13, but KAMC i get at about a constant 70 on my HD-Tivo. I live on the north side of town and I have my antennae mounted on a 10 foot mast with the biggest radio shack antennae, and in order for me to get KAMC I have to have it pointed 30 degrees to the right of the antennaes location. I agree with you though ABC's digital signal looks like crap and the analog is great. The rare chance that I got KLBK-DT, it was much clearer then KAMC-DT. Its weird thought that KAMC broadcasts stereo and KLBK doesn't.

I just noticed that 11.3 is showing no AV, is KCBD-DT allowing the extra bandwidth to go to 11.1 to improve the HD for the Olympics?

I feel they do not need 11.3, it is basically 11.1 w/o the grey bars.

I have installed a new dish 622 and the programing is great. They have a channel called rave that shows concerts full time in hd. I get 23 hd channels however a lot of them shoe programing I an not interested in Overall I am Very happy I Switched from directv.
Ben

My 622 was installed this afternoon, took about 1.5 hours in all.

I got to see about 30 seconds of an Olympic hockey game on Universal HD before I had to go back to work. It looked MIGHTY GOOOOOD!!

The OTA HD tuner in my ViP622 is strong enough that I now can see all the digital broadcasts in Lubbock, even KAMC-DT and KLBK-DT in all their SD glory???

KCBD reports that It's HD is not being cooperative right now so West Wing is in SD tonight.

Does anyone have the fiber service from NTS? They are laying it all over my area (near Quaker Wal-Mart), but happily are not laying fiber in apartment complexes. They said it was b/c installation is complicated, but I'm sure they're just as happy as can be that telcos now are allowed to cherry pick customers.

Unfortunately I live north of the Marsha Sharp Freeway, and TxDOT won't let NTS bore under the highway while they are in construction (it might disturb the dirt pile). So I'll be waiting a couple of years for fiber service.

I hope TxDOT does not mind that my satellite signal crosses the MSFwy right of way on its way down.

Derby is not up in HD and neither was the game anyone know whats going on? Was it because of the weather we have been having out here
edit nevermind it went up

Derby is not up in HD and neither was the game anyone know whats going on? Was it because of the weather we have been having out here
I have it in HD right now in 11.1.

Don't know if this has been said buy KJTV (fox34) was added awhile back to cox cable. I have heard that the change over to the new cable company has occured so this might be the last channel added dor awhile. It was purchased by cebridge which will be changing its name to Sudden Link. I believe they only have about 1.4 million subscribers

I just switched back to Cox, and was happy to see NBC and FOX were on the lineup. I just wish we could get everything moved off analog and have some more bandwidth opened up. Be nice to have ESPN2-HD around for baseball season. I'm also glad the UPN affiliate is carrying Astros games since FSSW seems to carry mostly Rangers' games. To bad no FSNHD.

I hadn't watched much KAMC-DT since they don't do HD but I watched the news tonight and it was awful. You couldn't read the scroll at the bottom of the screen - mosquitos all around letters and words. The weather, you couldn't read any of the graphics.

I switched to KLBK and it was MUCH better, no mosquitos, KCBD is even better being SD inside 1080i.

Not a big fan either. Didn't someone mention TexaSize either selling or switching to HD some time this year?

It was mentioned earlier on in this thread that Texas Size will be upgrading KAMC and KLBK to HD later on this year. Wheter or not this will actually happen is still up for debate because I have not heard anything about this. A friend of mine works as an intern for the news side of things and I have asked her to ask around and see if this is acutally true. As of yet she hasn't heard anything, but I wouldn't be too suprised if I found out before she did if they were actually going to go HD. It will be interesting to see how they handle the formats since both ABC and CBS are both owned by the same station. I would be interested to see if they end up broadcasting both in the same format. I could really care less I just want my HD football from CBS. As of now I would just want to the CBS signal because I have been unable to get it and I have done everything under the sun to try and pick up the station.

KAMC and KLBK use the same studio building, but their transmitters are not co-located. I don't know how that effects transmission type. Hopefully they will get their act together sooner rather than later.

I know KJTV has been talking about their new transmission tower (I believe it is south of Wofforth) and more powerful transmissions soon to come. Keep the pressure on boys.

Another thing I noticed last night was that the Tonight Show started at 10:45 (not joined in progress) and was in HD. Does KCBD have the capability to time shift their HD programming now or was that a network delay?

Not sure if they have upgraded for that equipment yet, but if they have we should be able to get HD Wheel of Fortune. KAMC broadcast has looked especially bad today. The picture looked incredibly blurry and was pixelating all over the place, its usually not the best broadcast but this was just terrible.

I'm suprised you guys mess with the KAMC digital channel. Even when I was OTA, I prefered the PQ of the analog feed.

All the formerly Cox logos have now been replaced with Sudden Link logos on my DVR. I saw an add where they claimed there digital channels were "DVD quality." That has not been my experience. Hopefully they start doing some upgrades now that the change over is in place.

anyone heard if suddenlink is dropping inhd & inhd2 for hdnet and hdmovies? Also klbk and kamac told me hd hopfully by first of 2007

anyone heard if suddenlink is dropping inhd & inhd2 for hdnet and hdmovies? Also klbk and kamac told me hd hopfully by first of 2007

I have asked the CSRs about changes, and they know nothing is regards to changes of any sort. Not comforting to hear that HD date has been pushed back.

The only thing keeping me with suddenlink is fox hd for the worldseries, football and bcs after that if no big changes I'm gone. To dish

Speaking of FoxHD, has something changed recently with KJTV's OTA signal? I have been getting frequent drop outs and mediocre signal strength. NASCAR at Pocono was unwatchable last Sunday.

Jim mentioned a new transmission tower. Is this just a transition related problem?

not that i know of but wb is prob going to do hd before klbk or kamac

I haven't had any problems with KJTV. I recorded the race OTA Sunday (will not pay for Dish LiL's) on my Dish Vip622 with no problems.

which is going to be better in the long run dish or direct?

It will be a horse race. Right now Dish is in the lead with more HD channels and they have MPEG4 up and running (still working on perfecting?? the encoding). They also have the best MPEG4 DVR right now.

Went up in the attic and adjusted the antenna. Everything appears better now. Weird, I've had great reception for over a year now. Makes you wonder what has changed.

On that note, I checked the AntennaWeb (http://www.antennaweb.org) mapping utility. I live in the 98th and Slide area and it shows KJTV's tower to be 13 miles to the southwest. The rest of the towers range between north and east of me with the next most distant being less than 7 miles away.

I am not sure if they have moved to the new tower or not.

All the service contour maps in the FCC database show the University Ave location except for one, and it is for channel 34 analog which is the location south of Wolfforth.

I tried using my Silver Sensor to determine the direction of KJTV-DT's signal, but the signal was so ubiquitous that the level stayed nearly flat (65-68) no matter what direction I pointed it. I did get some pixelation when I pointed it SW, but the signal did not appreciably drop - may have been a multi-path source coming in.

Unfortunately, my antenna is in the attic and the projector is in the basement. Sure makes messing with signal strength a pain.

I ended up pointing my antenna more to the east. This increased the KJTV-DT signal enough to stop the drop outs, but still allowed me to tune the rest of the channels (even the atrocious KAMC-DT feed).

how is hd ota 34th and slide?

I'm at 28th and Chicago, which is a little bit further from the towers that 34th and Slide, and I can get all the digital stations on a Radio Shack U-75 antenna with my Dish Vip622 tuner.

KAMC (ABC) and KLBK (CBS) are very weak (both <1kW) and do not do HD, but PBS, NBC and FOX are all very good in HD.

just got my cable bill I think I can do better with dish or direct I think suddenlink is raising their prices. urggggggggg maybe just wait for the new direct hd dvr

Cable was skipping during the astros game and I called suddenlink talked to one of the csr's she told me when I asked if anything was going to change that they were adding new channels. I asked if they were hd channels of course she didn't know but, she said all she knew was it was supposed to happen the first week or so of July.

Cable was skipping during the astros game and I called suddenlink talked to one of the csr's she told me when I asked if anything was going to change that they were adding new channels. I asked if they were hd channels of course she didn't know but, she said all she knew was it was supposed to happen the first week or so of July.

Intersting. I hope they also eventually release a higher capacity DVR. I was spoiler by my DirecTV HD-Tivo holding 25 hours of HD content. I think the current cable DVR holds 5.

What suddenlink is doing is dropping inhd1 and 2 for hdnet and hdmovies. I will be mid 2007 before anything else happens on the hd side of things for suddenlink.

does anyone have dish or direct and if so do your espn hd games get blacked out sometimes. The astros were on last night on espn hd and they were blacked out on cable. I am just wondering if that happens on sat.

Dish and DirecTV both will blackout games. Same as cable. I was very disappointed not to have seen that game in HD. But I think the Sunday Night game is on ESPNHD, and it won't be blacked out.

I talked to a direct csr today and she confirmed the launch of rsn's in hd to select markets. This will be good news for us if it is true because fox sports net southwest will be one of the rsn hd feeds. She said it was supposed to take place in july.

I talked to a direct csr today and she confirmed the launch of rsn's in hd to select markets. This will be good news for us if it is true because fox sports net southwest will be one of the rsn hd feeds. She said it was supposed to take place in july.

Dang. Nice work man! I'm looking forward to that. Today's game on KJTV was just upconverted SD. I want to see the Astros choke away the season in HD, please.

KAMC-DT had a bad digital encoder that has now been replaced - picture is much better.

Reply to email said they will go to full power and HD next year - no date set. (Come to think of it, this is what they said last year - H-m-m-m.)

I guess the verdict is still out on the rsn's in hd. This whole thing is confusing to me because I recieved a corporate email at circuit city on wed telling us about the launch of rsn's in hd on 7/1 yesterday and still haven't heard if anything happened from those who have direct tv. and there is nothing on direct's website which is odd if it is happening.

Is anyone on direct or dish getting the game in hd on espn tonight? and also for those of you who have direct and just have the total choice do you get 639 and 643 or just 643?

I have cable, and it was blacked out. I think all non-Sunday ESPN night Ranger/Astros games are blacked out. The week after the All-star break InHD is airing a couple of Astros games. Hopefully, they won't be blacked out also.

hopefully suddenlink will not switch in hd out for hd net before then. Has anyone heard anthing about suddenlink's hd plans?

Bye bye InHD, hello HDNET for Suddenlink customers. And the Astros were scheduled for 2 HD games next week. Argh!

bye suddenlink hello D* that makes me mad

What is KCBD doing with 11-3?

It is 16X9 and looks almost the same as 11-1.

I have never seen 16X9 on 11-3 before.

The control room person said it was not HD tonight even though both 11-1 and 11-3 are 16X9.

I am considering a move to Lubbock and have D*. I have a HD-Tivo. What channels will be available to me via OTA? I can't find any solid info.

I am considering a move to Lubbock and have D*. I have a HD-Tivo. What channels will be available to me via OTA? I can't find any solid info.

PBS (5-1) Fox (34-1) and NBC (11-1) have HD signals. ABC and CBS do not, and it can be difficult to pull down their digital signals. Not that either look very good anyway.

http://www.antennaweb.org

Good resource for seeing a city's OTA offerings. Zip codes are 794xx.

I am considering a move to Lubbock and have D*. I have a HD-Tivo. What channels will be available to me via OTA? I can't find any solid info.
Another good source is www.TVRadioworld.com. Click on north America then Texas. It gives a list of all stations with links to the FCC data on each.

any one hear in lubbock have D* that just has regular service and has both channels 643 and 639 for their rsn's? Jus ttrying to figure out if I would get both of them here in lubbock. Thanks

bye suddenlink hello D* that makes me mad

Why does this make you mad? Most people seem to prefer HDNET anyway, and INHD was fixing to drop INHD2 and make some changes to their programming. I've always heard very good things about HDNET, Mark Cuban is very serious about HD programming. INHD was owned by cable companies who didn't really care what they showed.

Oh, and since it is owned by cable companies, it isn't available on D* anyway.

It just makes me mad cause all I watch is sports and in hd showed sports mainly baseball right now. I would really have prefered loosing both of the channels and gained just one tnt hd that would have been awesome.

I also preferred InHD for the baseball, though HDNET Movies does have a better library. As far as the RSNs on D*, you will get both FSSW and FSN Houston, so you won't miss any Astros games. Can't remember the channel numbers.

Sweet man I really appreciate it. I have been going round and round with D* csr's trying to figure that out. My be some one also know's if here in lubbock we will recieve the hd feed of fsn southwest for the select games. If you look at the press release it states that if you live in the rsn dma you will recieve the hd feed for the games at no extra charge. I can't find any way to confirm this. It says to go to the D* website find find out by I can't find it on there. Anyone here in lubbock know if we would get the fsn southwest hd feed for the games that are broadcast in hd? Thanks

Talked to the cable guy today and he said that they are trying to add abc in hd right now. But I don't know if you knows what he is talking bout or not. Of that is what several csr's said also so we will see.

Where would they be getting this ABC HD feed and what would KAMC have to say about them bringing an out of DMA network feed into their territory?

Of course the rules have changed (dangerous assumption), but about 15 years ago we lived in Carlsbad and had multiple network feeds available except that anytime there was duplicate programming, the distant feed had to be blacked out. Needless to say, in prime time, it was almost always blacked out and the distant network was soon dropped.

On a lighter note I installed my Dish Pro 500 and aimed it at 61.5 tonight.

My usual readings on 129 had been around 50, but without peaking the DP500 I've already got a 55 on 61.5 tp 22 (the weakest one) and tomorrow I'll tweak it - hope to get at least into the 70's.

NO MORE RAIN FADE or 129 wobble dance!!

Other TP's on 61.5 are already showing high 60's.

well today the tech guy came out and apparently there is a prob. outside in the line. He told me when i asked if they were suddenlink or cox still because that is what the truck said and i was fishing for info he said they were suddenlink but were fixing to get bought out by charter or comcast. he said probably in the near future. Comcast would be awesome i think

Still having the same problems. My cable Suddenly BLOWS.

Man I wish ABC and CBS would hurry up and put out HD

Amen brotha. Also I need Suddenlink to get the NFL Network, football season is rapidly approaching!

Man I wish ABC and CBS would hurry up and put out HD
Last I heard it would be 2007, and before that they were saying July 2006.

Does Dish Network carry our local channels (11 and 34 and PBS) in HD?
I really like their HD programming selection (NFL Network HD especially).

Does Dish Network carry our local channels (11 and 34 and PBS) in HD?
I really like their HD programming selection (NFL Network HD especially).
No. Local HD only available OTA. Right now Dish only has about 10-15 locals in HD and they are much larger DMA's than Lubbock - we are like #146 or such. It may be a LOOOoong time before we get local HD through Dish.

We only have 3 of the 5 networks in HD OTA - no CBS or ABC. UPN soon to be WC will flash cut from analog to digital in Feb 2009, we might get HD from them then if the don't do too many subchannels.

Does Dish Network carry our local channels (11 and 34 and PBS) in HD?
I really like their HD programming selection (NFL Network HD especially).

I don't think they do. But they will provide you with a receiver that will also allow you to tune HD OTA stations via an antenna.

Yeah I already can receive OTA signals, but suddenlink carrying the HD signals too is damn handy.
I was looking into Dish mainly due to their HD packages (ESPN2 HD, TNT HD, NFL Network HD, etc). Suddenlink only has ESPN HD, Discovery HD and a couple HDNETs (along with the OTA HD channels).

did anyone get the astros game tonight against the d backs on D* in hd?

I was also curious if on Dish network here in Lubbock you get both the astros games and the rangers like on D*. Were you get fsn southwest and you get the overflow channel fsn houston for the astros?

I do not have AT60+ or the Silver HD Pack which are required to get FSSW, but Fox Sports Southwest carries both Astros and Rangers games.

I am moving to Lubbock and will be bringing my D* HR10-250 HDTivo with me. I want to set it up to grab the HD available via OTA antenna. I will be living near 66th and Frankford. What type of antenna will I need? Is there an attic mount antenna that can do what I need it to do? I am going to be renting for 6 months until I find a permanent residence and don't want to deal with a installing a huge antenna. Will this antenna get me all 4 major networks (even if they aren't all in HD?) Basically, I need to know if I can catch the local news and weather without needing another option.

THANKS!

I am moving to Lubbock and will be bringing my D* HR10-250 HDTivo with me. I want to set it up to grab the HD available via OTA antenna. I will be living near 66th and Frankford. What type of antenna will I need? Is there an attic mount antenna that can do what I need it to do? I am going to be renting for 6 months until I find a permanent residence and don't want to deal with a installing a huge antenna. Will this antenna get me all 4 major networks (even if they aren't all in HD?) Basically, I need to know if I can catch the local news and weather without needing another option.

THANKS!
You are going to be about 4 miles from most of the transmitters.

There is PBS located near 19th st and the Marsh Sharp Freeway. KAMC and KLBK are near University and the south loop, KCBD is slightly north east of there and KJTV Fox is about a mile south if there.

Generally they are all about 3-4 miles east of you.

I have an UHF/VHF urban combo antenna in my attic and it picks up all the full power stations (PBS,NBC and FOX).

ABC and CBS might be a problem since they are broadcasting at <1kW.

I am further away than you will be and my DishNetwork 622 pulls them in fairly well.

ABC and CBS are not only puny power stations, they are also SD only, and dragging their feet. PBS, NBC and FOX all do very good HD.

Look at www.antennaweb.org and it will give you more specifics from you planned location.

Thanks for the help. Antennaweb shows KJTV-DT to be 13 miles away. It shows KJTV (not digital) to be about 4 miles away. That is the only thing I am confused about. If it is truely 13 miles away, I would need a large antenna. Where would be a good place to pick up an antenna?

KJTV is building a new tower south of Wofforth but it is not on line yet. When it is working they will boost their wattage. Presently they are still broadcasting from the same tower as analog.

I bought my U75-R (UHF yagi reflector) at Radio Shack. It's OK for digitals (only KCBD is VHF channel 9) but might not work for PBS KTTV ch 5. Home Depot sells the cheaper line of channel master antennas, mostly combo VHF/UHF antennas. There are a couple of specialty electronics shops like Texas Electronic Supply on 34th st that stock antennas.

Thanks. I will check out one of those antennas. Even if it looks crappy, at least I could catch the weather.

I got news that suddenlink will add 5 hd channels by the end of the year

Please be NFL Network,
Please be NFL Network,
Please be NFL Network.

I was also curious if on Dish network here in Lubbock you get both the astros games and the rangers like on D*. Were you get fsn southwest and you get the overflow channel fsn houston for the astros?

yes just wish it was in hd though especially like last nites ranger game was blacked out on ESPN HD so had to settle for FSW SD.

I noticed the black out too. I always thought it was only unsold out home games, that resulted in black outs.

I noticed the black out too. I always thought it was only unsold out home games, that resulted in black outs.

That's just for the NFL. As far as baseball, if the local RSN is broadcasting it, it's blacked out.

And to echo above, please Suddenlink, add the NFL Network!.

Anyone here lubbock get the astros game on dish. your did you get the rangers. Does dish have the alt rsn like Direct so you get both of the dalls sports teams and the Houston teams when the schedules conflict?

Anyone here lubbock get the astros game on dish. your did you get the rangers. Does dish have the alt rsn like Direct so you get both of the dalls sports teams and the Houston teams when the schedules conflict?
yes

That helps. So with dish you get fsn southwest and the fsn houtson or alt channel so you get both all the rangers and astros games.

I'm in Lubbock finally and have things setup. I ended up getting the U90-R instead of the U75-R because the guy at Rat Shack made a mistake. He charged me for the U75-R though. I have a good signal on the digital channels that I can receive. Everything appears to be working fine. Now we just need the other stations to get up to speed.

I'm in Lubbock finally and have things setup. I ended up getting the U90-R instead of the U75-R because the guy at Rat Shack made a mistake. He charged me for the U75-R though. I have a good signal on the digital channels that I can receive. Everything appears to be working fine. Now we just need the other stations to get up to speed.

WELCOME to Lubbock!!

Are you able to receive all the digitals: 5.1&3 (39), 11.1,2&3 (9), 13.1(40); 25.1(on and off the air frequently, off right now), 28.1 (27) and 34.1&2 (35)?

I get 5.1 and 3....11.1 and 2 but not 3 and 34.1 and 2. I don't get 13.1, 25.1 or 28.1. Should I be able to get those? Like I said I have the u90 with a 25ft run of coax. Thanks.

I get 5.1 and 3....11.1 and 2 but not 3 and 34.1 and 2. I don't get 13.1, 25.1 or 28.1. Should I be able to get those? Like I said I have the u90 with a 25ft run of coax. Thanks.
Well, as I alluded to, I think 25.1 is currently off the air. Religious broadcasting, but decent power when it works.

13.1 (CBS) and 28.1 (ABC) are the weak sisters here. Both broadcast at less that 1kW, no HD. I get them mostly at night, but only on my DishNetwork ViP622. I'm not sure you're lucky to get them or not. All SD, all 480p. Rumored to go full power before the end of the year - believe it when you see it.

I noticed this morning that 11.3 had The Tube on it. It's sort of a music channel. How long has it been on?

My sister and brother in law, had their Dish upgraded to HD and DVR last week. They have a Sony set that doesn't have any HD OTA tuner. So this is their first taste of OTA HD.

They live around 50th and Indiana, and I was surpised that they could tune in all of the digital channels (70% strength at least). I'm at 50th and Slide and I can't get 13 or 28 (digital).

13 and 28 are the weak sisters of digital for Lubbock. Both are less than 1kW. I'm at 28th and Chicago and I can get 13 and 28 digital sporatically with my RS U75R antenna on my 622.

Anyone heard anything new about klbk and kamc going hd?

I can't wait until KJTV34-DT gets there HD tower online. Since I live in Levelland (about 25-30 miles from all the towers), my current antenna setup will only pick up PBS and NBC. I would love to add FOX34 to that list. (I can only pick up FOX34 during the night/morning when there is little traffic near my house)

I have no idea when the KLBK13 and KAMC28 are going HD.

Anyone heard anything new about klbk and kamc going hd?
Last year, they said it would be this year, now they say next year - BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!

Yeah I really hate not being able to see both ABC College Football and CBS NFL in HD. ESPN, FOX, and NBC have really spoiled me with their HD football broadcasts.

Anyone else just start getting all the locals? Previously I could get all of the locals but 25-1 and cbs. Im now getting cbs and it has been locked in for most of the day. Anyone hear if they finally decided to give a little bit more power?

I haven't heard if they are giving more power. Is abc the same way? wonder if they are finally going hd!

I'm still showing KAMC at about 58-60 on my 622 and KLBK is too low to lock.

I did a rescan and actually got KLBK 13.1 (digital not HD). The signal wont lock, but this is more than I've gotten in the past. Still no KMAC.

What antenna's do you recomend? I am on slide and 34th. Would a out door antenna make that big of a difference? And is anyone able to pick up any amarillo hd channels with a awesome antenna? Thanks.

I live at 28th and Chicago and use a Radio Shack U75-R yagi reflector. KAMC jumps in and out and KLBK is out except rerely I get it early morning or late afternoon. I could probably get them all with a Channel Master 4228 or similar, but that would be overkill when they go full power, so, I'll wait..

Amarillo is in about the same shape as Lubbock, maybe worse. They only have two stations doing HD. One is PBS on frequency 21 channel 2.1 and the other is CBS frequency 9 channel 10.1.

As you can see their CBS and Lubbock's NBC digital stations are on the same frequency 9. So you'll never get it from here. They will probably jump back to frequency 10 in Feb 2009 as KCBD jumps to 11 I believe.

Midland/Odessa also only has two digitals doing HD. KOSA CBS frequency 31 on channel7.1 and KWES PBS frequency 15 channel 9.1.

I believe the other closest station broadcasting in HD may be KENW PBS 3.1 out of Portales on frequency 32. I am not certain they are HD.

What antenna's do you recomend? I am on slide and 34th. Would a out door antenna make that big of a difference? And is anyone able to pick up any amarillo hd channels with a awesome antenna? Thanks.

I'm also interested in which antenna to purchase. I live west of the loop at about 9th and Milwaukee.

Also, anyone know when we can expect all local HD stations to be available through cable?

Thank you,

-rich

I'm also interested in which antenna to purchase. I live west of the loop at about 9th and Milwaukee.

Also, anyone know when we can expect all local HD stations to be available through cable?

Thank you,

-rich

All local HD channels are in Suddenlink's HD package.

PBS 704
NBC 711
FOX 712

ABC and CBS are not HD in Lubbock.

For the HD channels the Radio Shack U-75R will probably work, only question would be how well it gathers KCBD-DT on channel 9.

At my location KCBD-DT and KTTV-DT are about 100 on my 622 meter, KJTV-DT is about 70.

I just got in my Winegard HDP-269 Hi input pre-amp (less susceptible to overload since I'm only 2.5 miles from KTXT-DT) installed on my combo antenna in the attic and now I receive ALL Lubbock Digitals rock solid.

My 622 shows KTXT-DT and KLBK-DT at 100 on the meter, KJTV-DT at 86, KAMC-DT at 65 and KLBK-DT at 60.

OOPS KLBK-DT just started pixelating - well I've still got the other 4.

Maybe I'll try it on my RS U-75R outside tomorrow.

Probably won't be able to pick them up. Here is a list of other digitals w/in 150 miles.
Carlsbad KVIH ABC 7.1 (ch 21 freq) [transmitter pwr 3kw], Clovis KVIH ABC 12.1 (20)[1000kw], Odessa KWES 9.1 (13)[700kw], Roswell KBIM CBS 13.1 (16)[316kw], KOBR NBC 4.1 (26)[820kw]

Jim5506,

Are you happy with the Winegard HDP-269? I would like to be able to get all 4 major networks. I am moving to Llano Estates out west of town in about six weeks. Will I have more or less problems out there? I have the Radio Shack u-90r in the attic now.

Jim5506,

Are you happy with the Winegard HDP-269? I would like to be able to get all 4 major networks. I am moving to Llano Estates out west of town in about six weeks. Will I have more or less problems out there? I have the Radio Shack u-90r in the attic now.

It has made a definite improvement in reception on both of the ATSC tuners I have hooked up. My antenna (an old uhf/vhf combo that was in the attic when we bought the house in 2001) has a three way splitter in the attic (1-3db loss and 2-7db losses). I take the 3db line and split it again behind the den TV to got to my TiVo and the Accurian 6000 ATSC tuner, so I'm looking at around 7db loss at each tuner, with a 12 db pre-amp just after the antenna, so I am gaining about 5db. I also have my RS U75-R mounted on the East end of the house that feeds another TiVo.

The ViP622 locks all 5 digital stations pretty well now (KLBK pixellates occasionally), my Accurian locks all but KLBK most of the time, and for some reason the Accurian has trouble with KTXT occasionally. I think I'm getting some multipath in the attic (probably from the A/C ducting) because KTXT signal is bouncing on my 622 from 80 to 0 and back occasionally.

I'm not sure exactly where Llano Estates is, but KLBK and KAMC are very weak transmissions (less than 1 kW) and you will probably have trouble getting them, all the rest are pretty easy to receive. I don't know if a CM 4228 would fix all that or not (KCBD is on frequency ch9 so it might create a problem there).

Thanks for the reply. I am renting a small place now and have a huge antenna in the attic with a 50ft straight run of coax to my HR10-250 Tivo. Heck it might even be 25ft. and I still can't get KLBK or KAMC. I didn't really try to 'aim' the antenna though. It's just pointed in the general direction of the towers. Flying away from the towers.

UHF antennas are not usually that huge, so your antenna might be the wrong type, does it have UHF elements on it (approximately 6-8 inches tip to tip)?

Jim & rx man you are both experiencing what definitely seems like multipath problems. I have the Square shooter and live SW of Lubbock, I had only little problems w/ the signals on any of the stations on my VIP622 until s/w 365 was downloaded from Dish. I contacted them and was told that it should be fixed on the next s/w download, They knew that the s/w caused problems and are working to correct it. Back to ant problems. Jim with you on 28th street and the rest of the towers to the s of you the problems you may be having is the fact that KTXT is very off axis to the direction of the pointing of your antenna. As far as RX man it sounds like your location is suffering from major multipath problems. Both KLBK & KAMC are running very weak signals 1 is 960 and the other 980 watts. I know the CE at the station and he has told me that they will not have their upgrade to full power HD transmitter until mid to late next year at the earliest ( the GM hopes it will be on line before the fall season) right now Nexstar has done an engineering study and will have to do tower strenghtening before the new antenna can be mounted. Also at the same time they will go full HDTV in house for both of the nets. As far as ATSC tuners I have 4. 1. Dish net VIP 622, 2. Panasonic TD-HU20 (it is a unit I picked up off ebay and is supposed to do Directv as well as OTA but when I tried to use it when I was in WA state it didn't seem to work well for the sat input and found it cheaper to go elsewhere for sat, 3 I have 2 Voom receivers that I also use as ATSC tuners. Of the 3 different types of tuners the old Pana has the least trouble of any in picking up the signals no matter the conditions. It is least susceptible to the multi-path than the newer units. The Vooms almost never pick up KAMC the weakest of all the transmitters in the area. The squareshooter has some design that reduces the mult-path problems but doesn't cure it completely. I do think it is a good antenna and recommend it. I would suggest getting the amplified version though. I have the standard and wish that I would have tried the amplified version.

Well, I took the plunge. Today Circuit City delivered my Hitachi 57F59, a 57 inch CRT RP projection TV. Been watching the Cowboys, Nascar, and the Giants implosion. I did the manual 117 point convergence - Great picture.

I moved my ViP622 to the living room to use with ithe Hitachi so I may have a Sony VPH-D50Q for sale here soon. Haven't decided, I might use it with the Accurian HDTV tuner or maybe buy a 942 as a second HD PVR to go in my "office".

Neither the 622 nor the Hitachi ATSC tuner is exhibiting any multi-path characteristics with KTXT-DT lately, but the Accurian still does, curious.

JIm5506,

Nice purchase! I watched similiar programming on my 50" Hitachi this weekend. Good stuff. The antena I have is from Radio Shack. The VU-90 XR. I would really like to get all of the stations if possibe. I will be moving in about 5 weeks so I may wait til then to make any changes.

first post here.

Bought a Hitachi 42HDS69 a few weeks back. Just got hooked up with DISH last week and tonight set up my RS U-75R up in the attic I purchased after reading about it on this thread.

I live near 11th and Milwaukee and am having excellent results.

5.1, 5.2?, 5.3
11.1, 11.2, 11.3
13.1
28.1
34.1, 34.2

all of these come in just fine along with all the analog channels. I have the coax running to the back of my TV.

first post here.

Bought a Hitachi 42HDS69 a few weeks back. Just got hooked up with DISH last week and tonight set up my RS U-75R up in the attic I purchased after reading about it on this thread.

I live near 11th and Milwaukee and am having excellent results.

5.1, 5.2?, 5.3
11.1, 11.2, 11.3
13.1
28.1
34.1, 34.2

all of these come in just fine along with all the analog channels. I have the coax running to the back of my TV.
Having worked at 5, I can tell you that 5.2 is nada but black. IT MAY BE USED IN FUTURE FOR AN EDUCATIONAL CHANNEL. But don't even hold your breathe on that last one, it is still only a maybe.

Does anyone know what Fox did today ? Earlier around noon I had practically no signal, now tonight I have signal strength near 100 but an SNR at 75. Before I had strength near 65.

It is causing a lot of pixelation when running thru my dish box but not too bad thru my TV.

Hey I am a newb on this board but I live off of Erskine and Frankford. I can pick up 5.1,5.2,5.3,11.1,11.3 and 34.1 and 2. I can't get 28.1 nor 13.1. I am just using a regular set of Rabbit ears is all. What antenna should I get..also do I mount it in the attic or on the house itself??
thanks in advance

Radio Shack model U-75R Is what I have up in my attic. It was 30 dollars and works great. 28.1 and 13.1 reception comes and goes pretty regularly. The only reason I want those is so that I can integrate them into my Dish Network channel guide without having to switch sources.

28.1 and 13.1 are broadcasting at less than 100 watts (very dim bulbs).

I'm at 28th and Chicago and had to add a Winegard HDP-269 pre-amp to partially stabilize 13.1 and 28.1.

Neither broadcast HD so I don't watch them any way.

KJTV may have switched over to their new tower and transmitter. I had them at 66 on my Vip622 and now they are at 95, but the stronger signal is causing a little multi-path with my antenna in the attic. I may have to move it outside WAF or no WAF.

Ok I have a dish network box also...do you have to have the HD box to integrate it in? (sounds like a stupid question but just thought I would ask) Also, how much is the HD box? Will I get 28.1 and 13.1 without a Dish network box.
thanks

Not if your TV has an ATSC (HD) tuner, which yours has if you are seeing the X.1,X.2,X.3 channels. Just use your TV Tuner.

5.3 is either HD or SD widescreen all the time. 11.1 and 34.1 are HD during prime time mostly plus the Tonight Show at night and the Today Show in the AM on 11.1.

Lubbock area 622 and 211/411 owners ALERT!

The Texas Tech/Minnesota Insight Bowl game is not only exclusively on NFL Network - It is to be broadcast in HD on NFL-HD.

Source The NFL Network: http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9425381

thanks jim

I'm new to this forum and have read most of the posts, but I cannot find any info on my current problem. The problem is I have a good signal for KJTV-34-1 (86-88) on my Dish 622 HD receiver, but I still am getting pixelation and an occasional no signal. When the signal returns it's always a strong signal (86-88). I first thought it might be multipath, but I live in the country with no structures to deflect signals and about 40-50 miles from the transmitter towers. Any pros here have any comments or suggestions?

I have not contacted the station yet, but I think they may have changed over to their new transmitter/tower about 10 days ago.

I have also been experiencing some pixellation on a strong signal since then.

I switched to my secondary antenna (in the attic with no pre-amp)and it seems to work better for KJTV-DT.

Now I've go to work it out because I can't get 28.1 or 13.1 on this antenna, but 34.1 pixellates with the other.

If KAMC and KLBK would boost their power to more then a 100 watt light bulb it might solve most of all my problems.

They must have changed over because about the time you stated, my signal strength got better (from mid 60's to upper 80's). I searched another forum and found a post that stated that the station may be still transmitting from both transmitters...if that is the case, it is possible that it would cause a multipath scenario.

Confirmed via e-mail from KJTV-DT, they have "changed to their new tower and new antenna with full power signal".

Thanks, I appreciate the info.

anyone else have pixelations with fox the past 2 days....annoying as heck

There have been some issues with their new transmitter since about Dec 7 when they switched to the new tower and transmitter. I watched a little last night and did not see any pixellation, but that was the first time in two weeks that it was watchable for any length of time.

I believe the other closest station broadcasting in HD may be KENW PBS 3.1 out of Portales on frequency 32. I am not certain they are HD.
KENW has the PBS HD feed along with their SD program feed. They also have a low power DTV transmitter in Hobbs on 42., same as their main ch.32 signal.

I have finally finished moving out to Llano Estates which is on about 60th and FM179. I got my same antenna up, but am unable to get NBC (11.1) now. I get PBS and FOX fine and 13.1, 28.1 come and go just like before. I can't get 11.1 and nothing has changed. I am using the same antenna (Radio Shack U-75R). Any ideas?

I live at erskine and frankford...11.1 comes in great just using cheapo rabbit ears. 34.1 used to...now it glitches in and out....11.1 only comes in good if I position the rabbit ears perfectly...anyother way and its done for!!!
PS are you a pharmacist?? I am.
later and merry christmas

All I can think of is that the U-75R is a UHF antenna and you might be too far out for it to work well as a VHF (KCBD is on frequency ch 9).

You are about 8 miles from the KCBD tower.

Try looking at channel 9 with your digital tuner. See what signal strength you see on channel 9 if your tuner will let you.

I am about 6 miles from the KCBD tower and it comes in at 100 on my Dish ViP622 ATSC tuner.

Yes I am a pharmacist.

I still have that huge antenna (VU-90 XR from Rat Shack) which I tried messing with yesterday with no luck. I'm getting 92-95 on frequency 9 when I test signal strength. The channel will not come in though. I didn't think it had to be 100 for a picture to come in.

Update.

I just realized that I get 11.2 and 11.3 just fine but not 11.1. Aren't these all on the same tower?

A rescan fixed the problem on my hr10-250 but not the hr20-700. D* is aware that there is a mapping problem. It just happened to be right when I moved which of course threw me off. At least I know my antenna does work. :)

I wonder if klbk and kmac have any plans to go hd at the start of 2007. Anyone heard if they have set a date?

They keep pushing the date back. The parent company is not terribly interested in spending the cash to upgrade. I understand they filed with the FCC for an economic hardship so as to not loose their ability to go full power after July 2006.

Last I heard they were looking at at least mid 2007. They not only have to upgrade their transmitters, but erect new towers (or significantly upgrade the old ones) because the present towers cannot support the side mount digital antennas.

KAMC's latest FCC filing puts it's construction completion as August 2007.
KLBK's latest FCC filing puts it's construction completion as August 2007.

Am I right in assuming that going full power means also having HD not just a digital broadcast?

That's what they say. Transmitting HD is included in the package.

Those of you that have suddenlink hd service have they added any hd channels other than fox, nbc, espn, hdnet, hd movies, universal, discovery, starz, hbo, and showtime?

I have the HD directv reciever w/ a terk antenna strapped to the dish. I'm not sure how it was setup but I've got 2 cables coming out of the wall. One goes to transponder #1 and the 2nd is split (1 going to transponder #2 and my antenna connection). I was getting 11.1 till last week (I think), but now I can't get it. Does anyone have any suggestions for picking up 11.1 and getting 34.1 stronger? Is there anybody in town that anyone knows of who can help me with this? Thanks.

I have the HD directv reciever w/ a terk antenna strapped to the dish. I'm not sure how it was setup but I've got 2 cables coming out of the wall. One goes to transponder #1 and the 2nd is split (1 going to transponder #2 and my antenna connection). I was getting 11.1 till last week (I think), but now I can't get it. Does anyone have any suggestions for picking up 11.1 and getting 34.1 stronger? Is there anybody in town that anyone knows of who can help me with this? Thanks.

If it is the antenna that snaps to the rim of the dish, it is known for it's lack of performance.

You might try a Radio Shack V/U 90-R or some other small all channel antenna from Lowe's or Home Depot, not as descrete as the terk, but much more effective.

Considering Ramar owns FOX and CW when the CW goes digital will it be hd?

Just got hd today from DTV and it is amazing. It blows away suddenlink. I am using the U75R antenna from Radioshack and I am recieving all dital and hd channels locked at 70% or better fox pbs and nbc all at 100%. I am going through my h20. I all picked up 16.1. Don't know why all the complants from DTV hd customers cause my setup is awesome. I am also using an hdmi cable and I callabrated my tv to AFS standards.

Pharmdtlc, Hey what's Up!

Does anyone have a line (green) going down the right side of the screen? I purchased an HDTV over Thanksgiving but took it back due to locking up. Stepped up and bought Samsung. However, on 11.3 (the Tube), I have the above mentioned green bar on the right side (about 5 pixels in width). This was not on my old set. However, when comparing programs from my Samsung to my friends, we noticed I receive a wider picture. We compared ch 11.2 (Weather Ch with plus signs at the bottom right). He has only two and a half, where I have 5 (this channel also has green line, but only one or two pixels in width, so with the bright program it is not that noticable). The tube is much darker and line is obvious. No problems on any other channels or sources of Input (DVD, XBOX, SAT, ETC).

Thanx ahead of time for any help!

My Toshiba RP-CRT has no green bar on the right. Is it at the edge of the SD picture or on the far right edge of the screen itself?

probably has something to do with the overscan on your tv, gettin a professional calibration should fix that and give you a considerably better picture

It appears in the picture signal. I can switch formats from 4:3 to 16:9. Even in 4:3 with the bars on the side, it still has the green line on the far right side of the picture, not the TV screen itself (so the bar moves with the picture). It only happens on slightly on 11.2 and and more so on 11.3. For some reason, I can not adjust the digital pictures, just the format. No overscans or enlargements. Can only use those features on standard def channels. Confirmed this on website.

I dont have the green bar on the side, so its either (of course) has to be with the signal recieved, or how the TV is rendering the signal. what kind of signal strength do you have??

call me if you want DK
laters

are you using the built in tuner with your tv?

yes, using tv tuner. How is everyone's 34.1 reception this weekend?

34.1 has gone from 70 to 80 on the DTV meter to 50-60. Bought a RS U-75R. Spent a few hours trying to get it to work. Nothing but the same levels. Maybe doing something wrong.

My OTA 34.1 reception is usually rock solid, but was un-watchable this weekend. Had to tune-in the playoff games in SD.

Weather related, maybe?

34.1 was fine for me, but of course so are 28 and 13 and 11

Ihad no problem with 34.1 or 11.1.

34.1 Fox must have been down. Pharmdtlc was down as well. Any of you guys see the green line on 11.3?

34.1 seems to have reverted to at least a lower power output or something, no more pixellation problems and it actually reads lower on the meter than 13.1 on my ViP622.

Football Saturday and Sunday had no problems

Yep...it seems as though big games such as the BCS championship and playoffs are just not in the cards for me on fox...can not get it after weeks of great reception.

Greetings. Long time, first time.

I just read through the entire thread, and I'm assuming that there will be no Super Bowl in OTA HD for Lubbock, since it's on CBS. Doesn't look like we'll get The Master's in HD in April, either.

I am probably going to buy an HDTV very very soon; the wife is about to crack, I can feel it. I live at 24th and Akron, one block west of University, should I be able to pick up the available OTA HD channels fairly easily? There are some large trees in my neighborhood. I'm planning on putting the antenna in the attic.

Does Dish Network carry our local channels (11 and 34 and PBS) in HD?
I really like their HD programming selection (NFL Network HD especially).

There are hundreds of locals , nation wide , that DN carries , to carry all of these in HD ( DN & DTV are already digital ) would require enormous bandwidth .

Only way I can think to minimize this , some , would to be able to build sats with massive numbers of spot beams that had super tight spot beams , aimed super accuratly ?

Wyr

It now seems that Fox is now running at full and clean power. They said something on the news but I wasn't paying attention.

Yes, 100 on my 622 meter and no pixellation - Way To Go KJTV-DT!!

KLBK-DT is broadcasting Letterman in HD tonight. Maybe we get the Superbowl on HD in Lubbock this year.

Well first they had a test pattern, then Letterman in HD and now its a black screen. Testing equipment, I guess.

Hope springs eternal.

KLBK-DT is broadcasting Letterman in HD tonight. Maybe we get the Superbowl on HD in Lubbock this year.

OMGWTFBBQ! I thought it would be my children who would get to see KLBK go HD. How is the power? Did they turn it up slightly? I have a heck of a time tuning it.

it is showing up on my TV as 15-1, Harr-HD, 1080i - pretty weak signal though.


all it shows right now is "Loss of Input Signal" moving around the screen

I'm seeing it on channel 40, virtual channel 13.1. Signal strength about 82 compared to 100 for KJTV-DT, KCBD-DT and KTXT-DT and for KAMC-DT upper 50's. So the signal seems to be stronger than KAMC-DT but not full power at all. Last week KJTV-DT was running mid 60's, now it is back up to full power.

the first thing that I noticed was that the lettering over the color bars was very clear. It listed the commercial timing for the Letterman Show. I switched away for a few minutes and when I switched back (about 10:45pm) there was ole Dave 16:9 in HD. I watched it for about 5-10 minutes then it dropped to a black screen.

Right now 13.1 is still a blank screen but signal strength hovering at 81-83.

As a side note, I am using a Radio Shack U75-R with a Winegard HDP-269 pre-amp. I am about 6.5 miles from the transmitters.

Jim5506,
Can you find out any more information about CBS going HD? How did you find out about Letterman? I thought we were months if not more away from this. Can you give any more details?

KLBK is trying to get their HD up for the Superbowl. I got an email from the VP & General Manager of the station today, confirming that. If he gives me permission I will quote his email here later.

I stumbled on the HD broadcast by accident. I was flipping through the local DT stations and saw the color bars with the Letterman commercial schedule on them. It immediately struck me that the text was remarkably clearer than anything I had seen on KLBK-DT before. I was watching Smallville as it was transferred from one of my Tivo's to the other, so it would catch up with the transfer and pause every 10 minutes or so. During one of these pauses I switched back to KLBK-DT and there was the Letterman show in HD. I only saw about 5-10 minutes of it then it went black.

Well what in the world am I getting at 15-1 ?

My TV tuner in not picking up 13-1 anymore but my DISH picks it up the blank screen just fine.

Grr. Still can't receive 12-1. I get 28-1 just fine though :?

I can't quote from the e-mail but KLBK-DT is working hard to get HD working for the Superbowl, I hope they succeed.

The only digitals in Lubbock are:

5-1 and 5-3 on channel 39 - PBS
11-1,11-2,11-3 on channel 9 - NBC
13-1 on channel 40 - CBS
25-1 on channel 25 - KPTB, Rel. - currently off the air.
28-1 on channel 27 - ABC
34-1 and 34-2 on channel 35 - FOX

I cannot find anything on 15 or 12.

Meant to say 13-1. Can't tune it at all. Thanks for the info Jim. Keep us up to date if you can, and see if they are talking about upping the power ;)

Right now I am watching "Ghost Whisperer" in HD on channel 15-1 in 1080i.

The HD programming was up all night until Letterman ended. Nothing from 10-10:30.

There are no commercial on this channel, just CBS promos during the program breaks.

Hopefully they keep this up and not just for the Superbowl.

Maybe this means ABC will be soon to follow ? :D

They may not have the capability to switch from HD to SD so they just feed the HD straight from the network.

WORKS FOR ME!!

So it is going to be 15-1?

now they have switched it over to 13-1.

black screen for a while but UNC v. Arizona is back on 13-1 in HD. :)

By the way 13-1 can't go with more power until they install a new antenna and the current tower isn't strong enough for the weight of the new antenna...

FCC is being more stringent on tower construction since a couple of towers have fallen after new digital antennas were installed.

Thanks for the info.
When do you find you can receive it better? Day or night?

Suddenlink is broadcasting KLBK HD on Channel 707. I caught the PGA on it this afternoon. It looked damn good. Jim, did they say if they were gonna turn it off after the game?

I receive 28-1 better at night, but there appears to be little difference for 13-1 between day and night. 28-1 signal is about 58 on my 622 at night, and low 50's daytime so it breaks up badly in the daytime. 13-1 is 83-85 all the time. Of course I had to install a pre-amp to get both.

I have asked if they will continue after the Super Bowl, but no response yet.

13-1 is showing CW network programming right now in HD. Currently showing Reba.

I guess since CBS owns part of CW they have an HD source this time of night.

Jim,
Do you think a pre amp will help? I may have to get one if the continue in HD after the Super Bowl.

Jim,
Do you think a pre amp will help? I may have to get one if the continue in HD after the Super Bowl.
I don't think it will hurt.

Be sure to get an urban pre-amp, 12-15 dB and resistant to overload. Mine is the Winegard HDP-269, but Channel Master makes one also. Before installing it 28-1 and 13-1 were very unstable, now both are stable at night and 13-1 is stable all the time. A regular pre-amp is usually 20-30dB and is too much power for being so close to the towers. I think I paid about $50 for mine on eBay.

If you need one for Sunday try Texas Electronic Supply on 34th street, I know they carry the Winegard Square Shooter.

What a difference. KLBK-DT jumps from worst to first in picture quality at my house. Will this continue past the Super Bowl?

I am experiencing the occasional audio problem. The sound stutters and skips every so often. I am, however, willing to put up with a lot considering the high quality of the picture.

No digital blocking artifacts to be found anywhere. This just reinforces my dislike for the multi-casting on the other HD locals. Throttling back the main channel bit-rate to accommodate a weather channel and/or a music video channel leads to picture problems- especially on fast motion scenes.

A quick review of my OTA signal strengths in the 98th and Vicksburg area.

KTXT-DT 98
KCBD-DT 78
KLBK-DT 87
KAMC-DT 70
KJTV-DT 98

How does the KLBK-DT HD Suddenlink feed compare to the other HD channels on cable?

I am experiencing the occasional audio problem. The sound stutters and skips every so often.


same here, pretty sure it is a station issue, and not an OTA signal issue.

Right now it is just for the Super Bowl, but they are hoping to get the transmission equipment installed asap, well before the tower and transmitter upgrades.

This will allow them to switch between the local program stream and the HD stream instead of just the HD as it is now.

Jason,
I live close to you and was wondering about your set-up. Are you using an attic antenna, a pre-amp, or what. I have been using a Sears Silver Sensor and picking up NBC, PBS, and FOX just fine but now I can't get anything on 13.1 or 28.1.
John

John,

I'm currently using an attic mount antenna directly connected to my tuner without a preamp. I will be investing in a amp/splitter to drive the two other tuners I have available.

I believe I have the Radio Shack antenna found here (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103084&cp). It is model number VU-75 XR and catalog number 15-2151. I have pointed the antenna in the general direction of the KLBK tower.

Along with the KLBK HD Channel, Suddenlink all of a sudden (no pun intended) has added 4 more HD channels.
Suddenlink's HD package now includes:
704 PBS HD
707 KLBK HD
710 Discovery HD
711 KCBD HD
712 FOX HD
720 ESPN HD
730 HDNET
731 HDNET Movie
732 UNIVHD
733 TNT HD (new)
734 HGTV HD (new)
735 FOOD HD (new)
736 A&E HD (new

If they would just add NFL Network HD, Regional Fox Sports HD and ESPN2 HD, it would be perfect.

I didn't notice those channels on my dvr yet, I'll have to check again. I was hoping for National Geographic HD, but these will do just fine.

I called Suddenlink this AM. They said the new HD channels are not turned on yet.

Does any one out there receive Suddenkink service and use a QAM tuner for local HD?

What channel do you get local HD on?

My daughter has a Magnavox 50" plasma with a QAM tuner and the channel numbers are like 118.11 and 115.35 or something wierd like that.

Do you get KLBK-DT through Suddenlink yet?

We are invited over to watch the Super Bowl with them and I want to make sure they can find it.

I have a QAM tuner with Suddenlink, but I've never seen any HD channels before. All I can see are the basic cable channels. I don't subscibe to their TV service, only the cable internet though. I use the QAM to see the local SD channels.

Looks like KLBK-DT can now switch between HD and SD feeds. They did a quick switch tonight after the news to show Letterman in HD.

Anybody seeing KLBK-DT on Suddenlink yet?

jim..what channel # do i need to look for for CBS.....I just did a search and am picking up 28.1 for the first time ever. I need the Superbowel in HD though!!
thanks
Tyson

KLBK-DT CBS is on virtual channel 13-1, the actual frequency is channel 40.

Looks like KLBK-DT can now switch between HD and SD feeds. They did a quick switch tonight after the news to show Letterman in HD.

Anybody seeing KLBK-DT on Suddenlink yet? The suddenlink hd channel is 707

Does any one out there receive Suddenkink service and use a QAM tuner for local HD?



Yes, I have just the basic analog cable package thru Suddenlink and have picked up all their unscrambled Digital offerings via QAM. This includes all the locals including CBS now. All are HD with the exception of ABC. I also use an OTA antenna to pull them in also. Sometimes I find one is working better than the other so I switch back and forth. My tv is a 60 inch Sony SXRD with the QAM tuner. For anyone with a QAM tuner not receiving this, I would suggest you do a new channel scan. I forget what exact channel number the CBS HD is coming thru on but I seem to recall it was 90 something. I will check tonight.

Another sidenote: My next door neighbor has Suddenlink's basic package also and he has a QAM tuner and we were not able to pull these channels in. He has a crapload of cable splits in his house and I speculate his signal strength is too low to pull them in. I suggested he call Suddenlink and see if they could add a line amp or something but since he is pulling them in OTA he hasn't bothered. FYI

Yes, I have just the basic analog cable package thru Suddenlink and have picked up all their unscrambled Digital offerings via QAM. This includes all the locals including CBS now. All are HD with the exception of ABC. I also use an OTA antenna to pull them in also. Sometimes I find one is working better than the other so I switch back and forth. My tv is a 60 inch Sony SXRD with the QAM tuner. For anyone with a QAM tuner not receiving this, I would suggest you do a new channel scan. I forget what exact channel number the CBS HD is coming thru on but I seem to recall it was 90 something. I will check tonight.

I'm not able to pull the HD locals in with my QAM tuner. If you could post those channel numbers, I'd appreciate it. If I can't get them, I'll give Suddenlink a call, b/c my cable internet has been a bit wonky. I'm just using one splitter, and it at least looks like it's of high quality.

I'm not able to pull the HD locals in with my QAM tuner. If you could post those channel numbers, I'd appreciate it. If I can't get them, I'll give Suddenlink a call, b/c my cable internet has been a bit wonky. I'm just using one splitter, and it at least looks like it's of high quality.

No problem. I will check them tonight and let you know.

One thing you might want to check is what kind of splitter you have. I have a SV-2G Digital splitter made by SVI. It's a 2 way 5-1000 MHz. If you have something different you can take it to the Suddenlink office and they will exchange it for free.

Yes, with QAM just like 8VSB (OTA digital) if the signal is too low, you get nothing, if it is adequate, you get a perfect picture.

Adding the additional channels in HD might be enough to add to my monthly cable bill. I assume SuddenLink supports cablecards. I only have extended basic so do you know if they would let me have one for HD without subscribing to digital cable? Also, I have a series 3 Tivo which has 2 cablecard slots. Would they let me have two?

Adding the additional channels in HD might be enough to add to my monthly cable bill. I assume SuddenLink supports cablecards. I only have extended basic so do you know if they would let me have one for HD without subscribing to digital cable? Also, I have a series 3 Tivo which has 2 cablecard slots. Would they let me have two?

Hmmmm, last I checked (but it has been awhile), you had to first subscribe to digital cable and then additionally subscribe to their HD tier. Beyond that they gave you the option of adding or not adding Discovery HD at an additional monthly charge. In other words, you couldn't just pick and choose what you wanted or didn't want. Wouldn't cable be nice if they allowed us to just pick and choose the channels we wanted and only pay for those and not all the other crap they offer. Dream on.

You didn't mention which channels you were interested in, but if they are the ones that are unscrambled you have some options. You can remain on analog cable and pick them up via your HDTV if it has a QAM tuner or.........if your TV's tuner is not QAM, you could always add on a STB that was QAM and get them that way. I have done it both ways.

The TV that I have is a Sony KDL-V32XBR1 and I do not believe that is has a QAM tuner. Do you know if the Tivo Series3 has a QAM tuner?

As far as I can tell your tv has a Built-In ATSC Tuner for Over-The-Air HD Reception which is not QAM. Sorry, I know nothing about TIVO.

From http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=315791


Does the S3 support unencrypted digital cable channels, aka QAM in-the-clear, without a CableCARD?

Partially. Clear QAM channels can be tuned directly by entering the correct channel number. Recordings can be scheduled by time and channel. There is no guide data for digital cable channels without CableCARD, and hence no Season Passes or Wish Lists are possible. There is currently no way to manually map channels. TiVo is looking into the possibility to provide mapping in the future.

Ok, here you go. These are the channel numbers that are showing up via QAM and Analog cable:

94.1 CBS HD
108.11 NBC HD
111.4 PBS HD
113.1 FOX HD

Beyond the above, I can pull in all the digal music channels and...

82.12 NBC's local digital weather
83.4 The Tube music channel
83.8 Fox local digital weather
83.9 Some preview channel for In Demand
80.13 FISD

What I could not find today was ABC's digital feed. I am not sure if that is even offered by Suddenlink. Once upon a time I could get other channels as well such as the Golf Channel and some IFC channel but I can't anymore. These may now be encrypted. Hope this helps.

Is anyone getting channel 13.1 well on this side of town. I only use rabbit ears but here, (4th and Frankford area) I get 100 strength on 5.1, 5.3,11.1,2,3, and 34.1,2 and I get 65 strength at night for 28.1. I can not get 13.1 though...any thoughts???

I am at 11th and Milwaukee.

13-1 on my DISH vip211 is showing a strength of 60. It had been at about 67. It also shows up on 15-1 for some strange reason.

This is using the RatShack U-75R up in my attic.

Thanks manpig!

Is anyone getting channel 13.1 well on this side of town. I only use rabbit ears but here, (4th and Frankford area) I get 100 strength on 5.1, 5.3,11.1,2,3, and 34.1,2 and I get 65 strength at night for 28.1. I can not get 13.1 though...any thoughts???

I'm in the same boat as you, except I have a Square Shooter, with a pre amp, and a rotator. I cannot get 13.1 :(

I use DircTv to receive my TV. Not Sudden Link. I get the local HD channels (as well as the local analog signals too) over the air.

I hope that the planned transmission of KLBK's HD CBS signal over Sudden Link will not be used as an excuse by KLBK management to further delay upgrades to their tower and transmitter. The plan to use Sudden Link for this stop gap purpose seems to leave us DirecTV subscribers (and Dish Network subscribers too) out in the cold.

So you mean that after the super bowl I could lose the hd reception ota through D*, because klbk might do a closed circuit feed to suddenlink?

I didn't notice those channels on my dvr yet, I'll have to check again. I was hoping for National Geographic HD, but these will do just fine.

I speak and it happens, heh. They added NGHD yesterday. I'm really happy with Suddenlink's HD offerings, all of a sudden.

Also, for the people asking about a cable card, I believe you do have to subscribe to the digital gateway service, which is like $5.95 a month, but there is no charge for the HD tier, and Discovery Channel HD isn't extra any more. They dropped the charge for that over a year ago.

The head station engineer came into the store the other day and said they still expect the tower upgrades to be completed in late summer early fall. KAMC should also recieve the upgrade also

Was anyone able to pick up Dolby 5.1 for the superbowl?

It was too noisy for me to hear clearly at the party I attended, but I've had a couple of friends in the NE who said they didn't get 5.1. Seems it was hit and miss nationally.

Thanks for the update z71tahoe.

Is anyone noticing a difference in quality between OTA HDTV and Suddenlinks local HDTV signals? I seem to be hearing that the Suddenlink signal is not as good as the OTA signal.

I had suddenlink and now I have D* using the OTA through the hd reciever, and I notice that the OTA signal rarely messes up and it seems to be more clear that the cable signal. Less artifacts anyways. CBS is in HD now we just need ABC and CW.

By the way anyone heard anything about the CW and them going hd, if you look on antenna web it says tba or to be announced for the CW going live digitaly. Since fox owns them I think they will probably go hd when they go digital.

The current plan is for the CW and My Lubbock to go HD is sometime this year. It will probably muxed together with Telemundo on 1 channel.

Maybe I missed it but did anyone post the date that KAMAC will go HD, or does anyone know?

Maybe I missed it but did anyone post the date that KAMAC will go HD, or does anyone know?
Planned by late fall this year.

Probably wishfull thinking but when the My Lubbock tv goes HD I wonder if they will show the astros games that they have aired for the past few years in HD. Considering that the Houston station they recieve the feed from will be HD this year

Not sure about the astros. It may take some time to get the astros baseball games in HD. It requires some additional equipment.

kamc and klbk are looking for the tower to be finished possibly by late summer, fall

Permit applications indicate new towers will be near old ones maybe just beefed up old towers with better location info.

This is sort of strange. I cannot pull in CBS HD via OTA anymore, but could before. I still get it via cable and QAM tuner though. Is anyone still able to
get CBS HD OTA?

Just checked, it's still there for me.

Is the Duke game in hd on klbk for anybody this morn? I turned to it at 12:00 looking forward to watching it in hd and it is in sd. Wonder if some one down at klbk forgot to flip the hd feedd This sucks

I guess KLBK-DT did not throw the switch, because elsewhere it is HD.

Unfortunately, I don't have the control room phone # for KLBK, I have KCBD's , but not KLBK's. I used to have to call KCBD 2-3 times a week to remind them to flip the switch, but I believe they have theirs automated now.