Does anyone know if 8-2 The Tube is still on the air. I haven't been able to ge it for a while now. WCHS 8-1 comes in perfect and I have the guide info and I am able to tune to 8-2, but all I get is a black screen?
I believe The Tube was discontinued on the first of January. If I recall correctly, it was removed from all Sinclair stations because the FCC wants all of the extra digital stations to carry a certain amount of children's programming. That requirement didn't fit well with The Tube's format.

WOWK was off the air again last night and this morning.
I receive a strong signal with nothing but a black screen.

OK...I dont usually compain about this stuff but is it just me or did we get robbed tonight....The clock didnt start until Sosa was at half court...if the clock started properly he would have been out of time...The eers avoided him thinking the exact same thing!!!! Typical BS if you ask me.

Anyway...i changed my programming pack online (getting rid of FSN sports pack now that Basketball is over) and noticed HD locals are showing on my bill...not charged for them since it is part of the local channels pack. Very encouraging tosee.

Why would you want to watch that crap? Sorry...
I believe that current technology only allows a station to broadcast 1 HD feed OTA at a time.
Here in Parkersburg our local NBC station (WTAP) started multicasting a Fox & My Network feed a while back. OTA you can only get NBC in HD while Fox & My Network come in SD. When they first launched these channels, they explained it all on their website. WTAP says they'll be able to switch off the NBC HD feed and switch on the FOX HD feed for things like the Super Bowl and such. I don't think they've ever done this though.
However, they do provide Suddenlink with both HD feeds simultaneously over cable. I'm not crazy about the picture quality though.


Ok I don't really watch it, but I know other cable companies have it in thier HD line-up to My Network TV. They used to have some 80's and 90's movies in the middle of the night some really bad others entertaining enough to watch. Friday at 1:30am The Rundown and Saturday at 1:30am Rocky IV is on (these were suppose to be on at 8pm but had SEC basketball coverage) and going through Suddenlinks guide it say's it is in HD. And starting March 12 they will have movies every Thursday and Friday. They could have some good stuff to watch if it is in HD.

Broadcasters have a maximum data rate of 19.39Mb/s and the least amount of space that I have seen for a HD signal 12Mb/s, so I don't think its HD over the air in the Charleston either. But since they offer HD programing why doesn't Suddenlink have it?

OK...I dont usually compain about this stuff but is it just me or did we get robbed tonight....The clock didnt start until Sosa was at half court...if the clock started properly he would have been out of time...The eers avoided him thinking the exact same thing!!!! Typical BS if you ask me.

My wife had to tell me to calm down, as I was yelling at the top of my lungs after that play. Ridiculous. It wasn't just some game that we were screwed out of. It was a huge deal. Now thanks to the incompetence of the refs--one ran the clock and the others let Sosa have a 3 step layup--WVU gets a nice high seed in the NIT. I don't think that we would have made it very far in the NCAA tournament, but we should have been there.

It was a very bad call. Still a very good year for you guys considering it was a "rebuilding" year.

Anyway...i changed my programming pack online (getting rid of FSN sports pack now that Basketball is over) and noticed HD locals are showing on my bill...not charged for them since it is part of the local channels pack. Very encouraging tosee.

Do you have Suddenlink? If so, how did you modify your account online? I can barely navigate that site ... :confused:

Still having trouble with WSAZ HD. None today (Sunday). Golf was not in HD, but it was on the New York NBC feed. Is there a problem with WSAZ? The OTA was not in HD either. I sent an email to the station yesterday. No response. Anybody know what's going on? /grs

The suddenlink guide is incorrect. Either over the air or on cable , MyZ is only available in SD.

Ok I don't really watch it, but I know other cable companies have it in thier HD line-up to My Network TV. They used to have some 80's and 90's movies in the middle of the night some really bad others entertaining enough to watch. Friday at 1:30am The Rundown and Saturday at 1:30am Rocky IV is on (these were suppose to be on at 8pm but had SEC basketball coverage) and going through Suddenlinks guide it say's it is in HD. And starting March 12 they will have movies every Thursday and Friday. They could have some good stuff to watch if it is in HD.

Broadcasters have a maximum data rate of 19.39Mb/s and the least amount of space that I have seen for a HD signal 12Mb/s, so I don't think its HD over the air in the Charleston either. But since they offer HD programing why doesn't Suddenlink have it?

Anyone know for sure if the new HD channels on Suddenlink are going to be turned on March 15th as originally stated?

The suddenlink guide is incorrect. Either over the air or on cable , MyZ is only available in SD.

I have found out that suddenlinks guide is usually correct when its says things are in HD but they have to have the HD station, some of the things on A&E say they are in HD those will be when we get A&E HD on thursday. I know The Rundown was in HD but we dont have the HD station (MyZ is My Network TV).
I know that MyZ over the air is not HD because there is not enough bandwidth to carry the NBC HD feed and the My Network TV HD feed on the same channel. I wanted to know if MyZ recieves the HD signal, because if they do why doesn't Suddenlink carry the HD channel of MyZ it. ZapBranigan posted that his local NBC station multicasts the NBC, FOX, and My Network TV stations. The NBC station is the one that is in HD but they give the NBC HD and FOX HD signal to Suddenlink.
I don't know if they have the same bandwidth limitations when giving stations to cable. The last time I talked to our local CW station the reason we dont have it in HD is because they dont offer it, that could also be the reason for not having an HD My Network TV.

I don't know if they have the same bandwidth limitations when giving stations to cable.
It all depends on how the cableco/satco receives the feed. They can either receive it OTA in which case they are limited by how much bandwidth is provided by the station or they can get a fiber feed directly from the station before it is watered down by multicasting.

I know that MyZ over the air is not HD because there is not enough bandwidth to carry the NBC HD feed and the My Network TV HD feed on the same channel. I wanted to know if MyZ recieves the HD signal, because if they do why doesn't Suddenlink carry the HD channel of MyZ it.

I can think of about 10 other channels I'd rather see in HD before MyNetwork.

I would rather have more national HD stations but I don't know if they are talking to other national stations and I would think a local station would be easier and faster get (aside from Sinclair). Now if I knew that they were talking to other stations and which ones and when they would like to have them by I wouldn't care as much because I know they only have space for a limited number of HD stations and would rather have them, but as far as I know we won't get any more HD stations until next year, after thursday.

New channels are up!

Hey we also got PBS HD, they didn't say we were getting that, looks like its a national feed considering its off the air most the time except for 8pm - 11pm. Well the channel guide says off the air but there still showing HD stuff as of 11:42pm. The station shows different stuff than our 2 analog PBS station.

So far I'm loving National Geographic and HDNet! It's really nice seeing Andy Richter's old show and Arrested Development in HD. I was really excited about having Food Network in HD, but now I wish they would have added another network instead. It's really more Paula Dean HD than anything else. Where's Emeril, Alton, Giada, etc.? And I wish Suddenlink would fix their guide to show what's really on Food Network HD. It differs from (non-HD) Food Network, which is what the guide shows for both channels.

Overall, though, I'm not really that impressed. Just more HD content that I'm almost never going to watch. You really think it will be next year before we get more HD through Suddenlink?

are you guys actually watching the new channels or is it just on the guide?

^
We are watching them.

What's up with Suddenlink's required weekly test warning running nonstop for the past 45 minutes? It's getting really annoying while trying to watch the tournament.

What's up with Suddenlink's required weekly test warning running nonstop for the past 45 minutes? It's getting really annoying while trying to watch the tournament.

I had that last night on DirecTV during Greys Anatomy...very annoying.

I am enjoying our new HD channels on Suddenlink. PBS HD, HDNet, and Nat. Geo HD are very nice to have. Am having problem with breakup on the Food and HG channels that makes them unwatchable, any others having this problem? Also when going from A&E HD to HDNet and then to Nat. Geo HD am getting a hesitation in switching as when going from a 1080i to 720p channel. I thought all these networks were 1080i.

Also when going from A&E HD to HDNet and then to Nat. Geo HD am getting a hesitation in switching as when going from a 1080i to 720p channel. I thought all these networks were 1080i.

Of the newly added channels, both A&E and National Geographic broadcast in 720p. The rest are in 1080i.

Thanks, that is good to know.

I have mentioned for the past few weeks on this forum that WSAZ was not broadcasting NBC golf in HD. If you are a golf fan you will really appreciate the difference between HD and SD golf telecasts. I received a reply from Aaron Withrow the chief engineer at WSAZ as follows:

"I sent your e-mail to our traffic department and received the following reply.
"The original formats we called up said SD..I went back in and looked today...for March-April they show HD and starting in May they show SD. I will revise this month and next to HD. Sorry for the inaccuracy."

As a result, NBC golf today on WSAZ is in HD and terrific. Moral: These folks are responsive to our complaints and given the opportunity will take steps to solve the technical problems if possible. Thank you Aaron and WSAZ.

Moral: These folks are responsive to our complaints and given the opportunity will take steps to solve the technical problems if possible.

More than can be said about Suddenlink. I was a big advocate for Charter for years from the network side and we have many customers using them for Internet. I'm so fed up with them I have switched to DirecTV and I'm dealing with SD format just to boycott them. I didn't get DTV in HD because I really only care about the locals in HD. For now, I'm sticking it out and waiting for locals in HD on DTV.

The funny thing is that I was typing "Suddenlink" on my Blackberry the other day and the SureType came up "SuddenJunk".

Disney to Launch Four HD Channels On DIRECTV
The new channels are expected by early next year.
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Washington, D.C. (March 13, 2007) -- Disney says it will launch four new High-Definition TV networks by early 2008.

The networks -- ESPNews HD, Toon Disney HD, Disney Channel HD and ABC Family HD -- will be carried by DIRECTV, the company said.

The satcaster will add at least one new satellite this year so it can expand its national high-def lineup to 100 channels by year's end.

In January, DIRECTV said the expanded lineup will also include new high-def channels from CNN, USA Network and the Sci-Fi Channel.

Disney said its four new high-def channels will likely be launched in early 2008.

There was no word on whether they will be carried by any cable operators. However, Time Warner told TVPredictions.com last week that it will have the capacity to offer as many HD channels as DIRECTV by year's end.

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Hey all, having a heck of a time getting OTA HD reception here in Sissonville. The big problem being that our house is in a tree-covered valley, and pretty much right at the base of one side of it. Add to that that all the channels require me pointing the antenna toward the hill and .. yeah, not working too well. My setup:

- Terrestrial Digital V21 Ultra High Gain VHF/UHF antenna mounted about 15-20 feet up - 12.9dB Gain, 110" element length, 59" boom length
- A Walmart cheapo Philips Amp - VHF/UHF Gain 20dB/16dB, Noise 4dB
- Samsung SIR-TS160 receiver

With this setup I can tune in WVAH pretty well so far, though it does randomly cut out pretty often with the slightest wind. Can't get WCHS at all (which is suprising since they're supposedly the same orientation), and getting the others is a lost cause. Before I had the amp I couldn't even get WVAH. Now for the questions..

1. Is this antenna good enough? I'm only really interested in getting 3/8/11/13, 8 and 11 especially.

2. Would changing the angle of the antenna (pointing up toward the sky) help me out? Right now the way I have it mounted I can't change the angle, so it's flat.

3. Should I invest in a better amp, like the CM 7777? I figure this walmart special is pretty crappy, but it's all I could find locally. And would it help to use multiple amps?

Friggin' mountainous state ruining my TV viewing :p It would be great if Suddenlink/Cebridge/Thompson/whatever would actually IMPROVE THEIR SERVICE out here and get us some decent cable.

Here's my reading from AntennaWeb:

-------------------------------------------Miles
WCHS 8 ABC CHARLESTON WV 250°..............15.7
WLPX 29 ION CHARLESTON WV 256°...............7.6
WVAH 11 FOX CHARLESTON WV 250°...............15.7
WVAH-DT 11.1 FOX CHARLESTON WV 250°......15.7
WLPX-DT 29.1 ION CHARLESTON WV 256°........7.6
WOWK 13 CBS HUNTINGTON WV 276°.............30.5
WSAZ 3 NBC HUNTINGTON WV 277°..............31.1

I am enjoying our new HD channels on Suddenlink. PBS HD, HDNet, and Nat. Geo HD are very nice to have. Am having problem with breakup on the Food and HG channels that makes them unwatchable, any others having this problem? Also when going from A&E HD to HDNet and then to Nat. Geo HD am getting a hesitation in switching as when going from a 1080i to 720p channel. I thought all these networks were 1080i.

We experienced breakups on Food and HG. Very annoying.

t0ad

I live in the sissonville area too and get pretty good reception on my ota channels. I'm near the high school and my antenna pretty much points into the hill behind my house. I get 3, 8, 11, 13, 29, and 33. I have to rotate my antenna about 10 degrees to get 33. Channels 8, 11, and 29 are in the upper 90's in signal strength. Channel 3 is in the mid 70's and 13 is around 70 - it used to be higher before I split my antenna feed to hook up my daughter's hd tv. I have one of the bigger channel master antennas that I bought before I really knew what I was doing and I have a channel master rotor. I've found that a very few degrees can make a huge difference in reception. I have an amp in the house where I split the signal and one at my tv. I'm considering getting a channel master pre-amp from lowes to see if that boost my signal back up on channel 13.

t0ad

I live in the sissonville area too and get pretty good reception on my ota channels. I'm near the high school and my antenna pretty much points into the hill behind my house. I get 3, 8, 11, 13, 29, and 33. I have to rotate my antenna about 10 degrees to get 33. Channels 8, 11, and 29 are in the upper 90's in signal strength. Channel 3 is in the mid 70's and 13 is around 70 - it used to be higher before I split my antenna feed to hook up my daughter's hd tv. I have one of the bigger channel master antennas that I bought before I really knew what I was doing and I have a channel master rotor. I've found that a very few degrees can make a huge difference in reception. I have an amp in the house where I split the signal and one at my tv. I'm considering getting a channel master pre-amp from lowes to see if that boost my signal back up on channel 13.

Wow, that's pretty impressive. A buddy of mine lives out in cross lanes and he can only pull down 8 and 11 .. granted, that's with a little Philips indoor antenna. I guess my antenna just sucks .. I have a CM 7777 amp on the way, so I'll look into replacing it next.

edit: Going to exchange my V21 for a 91XG. Hopefully I can at least get 8 and 11 without so much signal dropping, at least until the leaves come in :rolleyes:

Hey all, having a heck of a time getting OTA HD reception here in Sissonville. The big problem being that our house is in a tree-covered valley, and pretty much right at the base of one side of it. Add to that that all the channels require me pointing the antenna toward the hill and .. yeah, not working too well.

What part of my old stomping grounds are you in?

Is anyone having problems with PBS HD? I can't hear any sound.

I am along the Ohio River in Belpre Ohio not even 1/4 of a mile from parkersburg wv. Is it possible at all to be able to pick up wowk-CBS station. I switched to satellite because suddenlink was raping us and now I lost my Bengals football carrier.

I found the satellite for wowk here

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/program...et.php?dma_name[]=Charleston-Huntington

I couldnt get exact coordinates but just searched the mileage from crown city wv closely where it is located to my address in Belpre. It says it is approximately 75 miles from my house. Is their any chance at all of picking this up or am I screwed? Or is their a closer signal from an Ohio station that I could pick up. In terms of OTA all I get is My5/NBC/FOX. Antenna web is no help as it only lists NBC as available and that is a lie.

I am along the Ohio River in Belpre Ohio not even 1/4 of a mile from parkersburg wv. Is it possible at all to be able to pick up wowk-CBS station. I switched to satellite because suddenlink was raping us and now I lost my Bengals football carrier.

I found the satellite for wowk here

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/program...et.php?dma_name[]=Charleston-Huntington

I couldnt get exact coordinates but just searched the mileage from crown city wv closely where it is located to my address in Belpre. It says it is approximately 75 miles from my house. Is their any chance at all of picking this up or am I screwed? Or is their a closer signal from an Ohio station that I could pick up. In terms of OTA all I get is My5/NBC/FOX. Antenna web is no help as it only lists NBC as available and that is a lie.

It's doubtful. The terrain down here is MUCH more hilly than it is up there and the ratings on the antennas are based on flat terrain. I am about 25 to 35 miles away from all the towers down here and even on a hill to an extent and its a crap shoot for me. One trick with Antenna web is to tell it your elevation is 500 or 1000 feet and it will pretty much give you everything around so you can at least get the distance and direction of the towers.

What part of my old stomping grounds are you in?

I'm out on River Bend, a little ways past the NGK plant. Reception blows out here :( An update though, I got my 91XG and CM7777 up on the pole and so far it seems like I can pick up 8, 11, and 29 at 93-100% strength. This antenna is definitely very directional, when I first put it up I was dejected to see no new channels over the old antenna. I went out and turned it about 5-10 degrees and bam, there's 8 and 29 too. Very impressed with the 91XG and CM7777 so far, hopefully it'll behave itself during cloudy/rainy days.. and when the leaves start coming in again. 3 and 13 are a lost cause out here I believe .. but I'll give it a shot this weekend after I actually get a compass instead of just guessing :p

I'm out on River Bend, a little ways past the NGK plant. Reception blows out here :( An update though, I got my 91XG and CM7777 up on the pole and so far it seems like I can pick up 8, 11, and 29 at 93-100% strength. This antenna is definitely very directional, when I first put it up I was dejected to see no new channels over the old antenna. I went out and turned it about 5-10 degrees and bam, there's 8 and 29 too. Very impressed with the 91XG and CM7777 so far, hopefully it'll behave itself during cloudy/rainy days.. and when the leaves start coming in again. 3 and 13 are a lost cause out here I believe .. but I'll give it a shot this weekend after I actually get a compass instead of just guessing :p

From where you are at, the towers are probably spread apart farther. From where I'm at in Pinch all the towers are only 16 degrees apart total, so I can get all of them. That is more likely than your location, especially if you are elevated at all. I have the 91XG too. With the amp and preamp, I'm getting all four locals, now. The 91XG is the bomb.

See my tip in the post above about how to get antenna web into giving you the tower locations. The compass will be a big help...being a couple degrees off is a couple miles by the time you get to the tower and the 91XG is very directional.

I'm out on River Bend, a little ways past the NGK plant. Reception blows out here :( An update though, I got my 91XG and CM7777 up on the pole and so far it seems like I can pick up 8, 11, and 29 at 93-100% strength. This antenna is definitely very directional, when I first put it up I was dejected to see no new channels over the old antenna. I went out and turned it about 5-10 degrees and bam, there's 8 and 29 too. Very impressed with the 91XG and CM7777 so far, hopefully it'll behave itself during cloudy/rainy days.. and when the leaves start coming in again. 3 and 13 are a lost cause out here I believe .. but I'll give it a shot this weekend after I actually get a compass instead of just guessing :p

I'm out by the Sissonville Middle School. I use a $20 Indoor Antenna from Phillips on the windowsill of my basement (which is 2 feet above the ground) and I can pick up 3-1 and 11-1 without turning my antenna. I can turn it a little and get 8-1. Some times, I can get 3, 8 and 11 without turning. I can't get 13-1 unless I open the window, and then sometimes, not even then. This is all temporary until I put a DB4 or DB8 in the attic at some point. But for now, with a $20 Antenna and I can at least pick up 3, 8 and 11 when I want.

I do have a Channel Master Antenna I purchased from Lowes a few years back. I forget the model number, but it's their $99 model. I also have the 30' Telescoping pole from Channel Master. Anyone know someone that would like to purchase both? I'll sell the antenna and pole for $50 as I won't be installing it outside. I want one in the attic.

From where you are at, the towers are probably spread apart farther. From where I'm at in Pinch all the towers are only 16 degrees apart total, so I can get all of them. That is more likely than your location, especially if you are elevated at all. I have the 91XG too. With the amp and preamp, I'm getting all four locals, now. The 91XG is the bomb.

See my tip in the post above about how to get antenna web into giving you the tower locations. The compass will be a big help...being a couple degrees off is a couple miles by the time you get to the tower and the 91XG is very directional.

Yeah, antennaweb told me that 8 and 11 are at ~250 degrees, 3 and 13 being around 275. Looks like I won't be able to pick up all 4 at once without moving it.

I turned it on last night during the overcast/rain shower and unfortunately channel 8 and 29 were all but completely out the whole night. :( 11 worked fine though, not a single hiccup. It makes me wonder what the heck is up .. I thought 8 and 11 were coming from practically the same place, but for some reason 8 is being really difficult with me in comparison to 11.

As it is, I have the antenna pointing up at about a 40 degree angle just to clear the trees on the hill behind the house. The hill is really killing any hopes I have of receiving all the channels all the time. Stacking XG91's would probably help me out, but I just don't think I want to throw any more money at trying to get my locals.. I'm hoping Suddenlink gets off their butts and offers HD here, but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe DirecTV or Dish will beat them to the punch.

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DIRECTV Activates HD Local Channel Service in Four New Markets
MEDIA ADVISORY
March 28, 2007

DIRECTV Activates HD Local Channel Service in Four New Markets

ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC Now Available in HD in Greenville, S.C., Harrisburg, Pa., Jacksonville Fla., and Spokane, Wash.;
DIRECTV Now offers Local HD Channels in 53 Markets

WHAT: DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, is now offering local HD programming from ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC to customers in Greenville, S.C., Harrisburg, Pa., Jacksonville Fla., and Spokane, Wash. DIRECTV now offers local HD broadcast channels in 53 cities, representing more than 67 percent of U.S. TV households.

DIRECTV's local HD channel rollout is part of an aggressive nationwide expansion of HD programming that includes plans to offer local HD channels in up to 75 markets and up to 100 national channels by year end. When DIRECTV's capacity expansion is complete next year, it will offer more than 1,500 local HD channels and more than 150 national HD channels, establishing DIRECTV as the nation's leading provider of HD programming.

WHEN: Beginning today, Wednesday, March 28, 2007

HOW: Customers who subscribe to a programming package that includes local channels receive both the standard-definition and HD signals at no extra monthly charge. Customers can receive local HD channels by leasing an H20 HD receiver or the new HR20 DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR and satellite dish. Existing HD customers can upgrade their HD receiver and dish for $99 per receiver. New customers can take advantage of a $100 mail-in rebate on all DIRECTV HD and HDDVR receivers.

CONTACT:
DIRECTV, Inc.
Robert Mercer
310-964-4683

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DIRECTV Activates HD Local Channel Service in Four New Markets
MEDIA ADVISORY
March 28, 2007

DIRECTV Activates HD Local Channel Service in Four New Markets

ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC Now Available in HD in Greenville, S.C., Harrisburg, Pa., Jacksonville Fla., and Spokane, Wash.;
DIRECTV Now offers Local HD Channels in 53 Markets

WHAT: DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, is now offering local HD programming from ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC to customers in Greenville, S.C., Harrisburg, Pa., Jacksonville Fla., and Spokane, Wash. DIRECTV now offers local HD broadcast channels in 53 cities, representing more than 67 percent of U.S. TV households.

DIRECTV's local HD channel rollout is part of an aggressive nationwide expansion of HD programming that includes plans to offer local HD channels in up to 75 markets and up to 100 national channels by year end. When DIRECTV's capacity expansion is complete next year, it will offer more than 1,500 local HD channels and more than 150 national HD channels, establishing DIRECTV as the nation's leading provider of HD programming.

WHEN: Beginning today, Wednesday, March 28, 2007

HOW: Customers who subscribe to a programming package that includes local channels receive both the standard-definition and HD signals at no extra monthly charge. Customers can receive local HD channels by leasing an H20 HD receiver or the new HR20 DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR and satellite dish. Existing HD customers can upgrade their HD receiver and dish for $99 per receiver. New customers can take advantage of a $100 mail-in rebate on all DIRECTV HD and HDDVR receivers.

CONTACT:
DIRECTV, Inc.
Robert Mercer
310-964-4683

This doesn't help anyone in WV does it, or did I miss something? Any word on when Charleston will get the locals? I heard this year, but not sure when the launches of the new sats are scheduled.

Yeah, antennaweb told me that 8 and 11 are at ~250 degrees, 3 and 13 being around 275. Looks like I won't be able to pick up all 4 at once without moving it.

I turned it on last night during the overcast/rain shower and unfortunately channel 8 and 29 were all but completely out the whole night. :( 11 worked fine though, not a single hiccup. It makes me wonder what the heck is up .. I thought 8 and 11 were coming from practically the same place, but for some reason 8 is being really difficult with me in comparison to 11.

As it is, I have the antenna pointing up at about a 40 degree angle just to clear the trees on the hill behind the house. The hill is really killing any hopes I have of receiving all the channels all the time. Stacking XG91's would probably help me out, but I just don't think I want to throw any more money at trying to get my locals.. I'm hoping Suddenlink gets off their butts and offers HD here, but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe DirecTV or Dish will beat them to the punch.


I think D* will beat them to the punch. I called Suddenlink last week to determine their HD plans. I called in December of last year and they said to call back in 2007, as HD wasn't in their business plans as of yet. Last week, the lady I spoke with said they are 'working' on HD for Sissonville. I asked her if she could be more specific, but that's all the information she had. Working could mean, implementing the proper equipment now, it could mean they are talking about WHEN they want to do it, or talking about HOW they want to do it. So, I'm not holding my breath. Suddenlink won't be able to compete with D*'s lineup. They should have all of our Locals in HD and 100 National HD channels by year end. However, there has been a press release that out of those 100, it includes all the Sunday ticket channels, etc. Really, only about 70 full time HD channels, but that is still great if you ask me.

I think D* will beat them to the punch. I called Suddenlink last week to determine their HD plans. I called in December of last year and they said to call back in 2007, as HD wasn't in their business plans as of yet. Last week, the lady I spoke with said they are 'working' on HD for Sissonville. I asked her if she could be more specific, but that's all the information she had. Working could mean, implementing the proper equipment now, it could mean they are talking about WHEN they want to do it, or talking about HOW they want to do it. So, I'm not holding my breath. Suddenlink won't be able to compete with D*'s lineup. They should have all of our Locals in HD and 100 National HD channels by year end. However, there has been a press release that out of those 100, it includes all the Sunday ticket channels, etc. Really, only about 70 full time HD channels, but that is still great if you ask me.

Actually, the new sats for D* is for "capacity" -- not that they will HAVE that many channels. If you read the footnotes on their ads it says they will have the capacity to offer that many channels "Based on Bank of America Equity Research report May 2006." How many they actually have will depend on what there is to offer as well as how/if they can negotiate the agreements to carry them. Based on the growth, I do not think it's unrealistic they may have our market to offer HD locals by year's end.

If Suddenlink does not get their act together...anyways...I've ditched them altogether and switched to DirecTV and DSL.

Directv says they will have the " capacity to offer 150 HD channels". They are including NFL sunday ticket games in that. Most sights say they will slowly have 50-70 when the birds are ready.....

Adding USA, SCIFI, FX, MAX, STARZ, CNN, TBS, Cartoon Network, MTV, Weather Channel, NGCHD, HGTV, Chiller, FSN, ESPNNEWS, Disney, ABC Family, WGN........and more I'm sure.

Keep in mind this wont happen in one day....The networks have to broadcast in HD.

One things for sure....I'm tired of waiting. It is a shame the cabel cos, sat providers, and networks are so far behind in supporting the technology out there!

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DIRECTV: 100 HD Channels Will Include Sunday Ticket
The satcaster says it has 70 standalone HD networks under contract.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (March 29, 2007) -- DIRECTV says its upcoming lineup of 100 High-Definition channels will include feeds from sports packages such as the NFL Sunday Ticket.

That's according to an article by Multichannel News.

DIRECTV has said it will offer 100 national HDTV channels by year's end. Multichannel News reports that DIRECTV CFO Michael Palkovic says the satcaster has 70 high-def channels under contract.

The company has announced deals with several HD channels yet-to-be launched, including CNN, USA Network, Sci-Fi Channel, the Cartoon Network and The Weather Channel.
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But Palkovic added that the 100-channel lineup will include feeds from Sunday Ticket, MLB's Extra Innings and other sports packages. In 2008, DIRECTV is planning to show most (if not all) of the games available in pay packages in high-def.


Tom Brady's game could be considered a HD channel.

For example, Palkovic said the Sunday Ticket, which offers 13 different NFL games each week, would count as 13 HD channels.
“That’s the way you would count that,” Palkovic told Multichannel News.

He said that about 70 or 80 channels would be 24/7, year-round high-def channels.

Palkovic also discounted speculation that DIRECTV would add the 15-channel high-def lineup from Voom.

“First of all, there are no Voom channels, there is nothing like that that people would consider not really quality channels,” Palkovic said. “We’re talking USA, Sci Fi, some of the Turner networks, The Weather Channel, mainstream programming that’s been around for a long time that’s going to make the leap to HD

Wow the thread has really grown here. What up all it is the thread originator, I hope all are enjoying all the new offerings in HD. How many now post in this thread?

Welcome back. Long time no here from. It has grown as has the HD offerings. And with D* coming online in the fall with 50+ HD plus hopefully locals, it will be like Christmas.

Welcome back. Long time no here from. It has grown as has the HD offerings. And with D* coming online in the fall with 50+ HD plus hopefully locals, it will be like Christmas.
Herdfan: Do you put your HR20 in "standby mode"? Almost everytime I do it locks up. The only time I've ever missed a recording is when I put it in standby. As long as I leave it "on" it works great (well except for the quirks and features they left out). I've gotten used to no dual buffers but not "jumping back" automatically at the end of a FF is a pain. Curses to Tivo and their patents :)

Herdfan: Do you put your HR20 in "standby mode"?
Yes. On both of them and I have never had an issue. For some reason I have only experienced 1 BSOD between them and they have been rock solid. I know others have had major issues.

One thing on mine is that they are fed from a powered multiswitch and I think that helps these machines for some reason.

Actually, the new sats for D* is for "capacity" -- not that they will HAVE that many channels. If you read the footnotes on their ads it says they will have the capacity to offer that many channels "Based on Bank of America Equity Research report May 2006." How many they actually have will depend on what there is to offer as well as how/if they can negotiate the agreements to carry them. Based on the growth, I do not think it's unrealistic they may have our market to offer HD locals by year's end.

If Suddenlink does not get their act together...anyways...I've ditched them altogether and switched to DirecTV and DSL.

The've actually said they WILL have that many channels. Tons of threads under the HD Programming link.

Was the Reds Cubs game blacked out on espn2. I know it was on WGN. Did any people see it on sattelite on espn2HD. If suddenlink had ESPN2HD would it have been blacked out as well.


Im not a Red fan but if it was in HD I would have switched back and forth between that game and the games on ESPNHD.

Directv adds more markets but if you look at the media release you will see the 150 channels and additional locals "next year". I for one am sick of Directv constantly pushing back the date. I remember in 2005 the adds caliming " later this year".








DIRECTV Delivers Local HD Programming to Four New Markets
MEDIA ADVISORY
April 4, 2007

Local Channels in HD are Now Available to DIRECTV Customers in 57 Markets Representing More Than 69 Percent of U.S. TV Households

WHAT: DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, is now delivering local HD programming to customers in Albuquerque, N.M., Buffalo, N.Y., New Orleans and Tulsa, Okla. DIRECTV now offers local HD broadcast channels in 57 cities, representing more than 69 percent of U.S. TV households.

DIRECTV's local HD channel rollout is part of an aggressive nationwide expansion of HD programming that includes plans to offer local HD channels in up to 75 markets and up to 100 national channels by year end. When DIRECTV's capacity expansion is completed next year, it will offer more than 1,500 local HD channels and more than 150 national HD channels, establishing DIRECTV as the nation's leading provider of HD programming.
WHEN: Beginning today, Wednesday, April 4, 2007

HOW: To receive DIRECTV's local HD programming, customers must have an H20 HD receiver or an HR20 DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR and a Ka/Ku band dish. DIRECTV is offering new customers a $100 mail-in rebate on all DIRECTV HD and HDDVR receivers. Existing HD customers can upgrade their old HD receiver and dish for $99 per receiver, or upgrade to an HR20 for $299.

CONTACT: DIRECTV, Inc.
Robert Mercer
310-964-4683

Directv adds more markets but if you look at the media release you will see the 150 channels and additional locals "next year". I for one am sick of Directv constantly pushing back the date. I remember in 2005 the adds caliming " later this year".








DIRECTV Delivers Local HD Programming to Four New Markets
MEDIA ADVISORY
April 4, 2007

Local Channels in HD are Now Available to DIRECTV Customers in 57 Markets Representing More Than 69 Percent of U.S. TV Households

WHAT: DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, is now delivering local HD programming to customers in Albuquerque, N.M., Buffalo, N.Y., New Orleans and Tulsa, Okla. DIRECTV now offers local HD broadcast channels in 57 cities, representing more than 69 percent of U.S. TV households.

DIRECTV's local HD channel rollout is part of an aggressive nationwide expansion of HD programming that includes plans to offer local HD channels in up to 75 markets and up to 100 national channels by year end. When DIRECTV's capacity expansion is completed next year, it will offer more than 1,500 local HD channels and more than 150 national HD channels, establishing DIRECTV as the nation's leading provider of HD programming.
WHEN: Beginning today, Wednesday, April 4, 2007

HOW: To receive DIRECTV's local HD programming, customers must have an H20 HD receiver or an HR20 DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR and a Ka/Ku band dish. DIRECTV is offering new customers a $100 mail-in rebate on all DIRECTV HD and HDDVR receivers. Existing HD customers can upgrade their old HD receiver and dish for $99 per receiver, or upgrade to an HR20 for $299.

CONTACT: DIRECTV, Inc.
Robert Mercer
310-964-4683

Right, up to 150 channels next year, but up to 100 by the year end, end of 2007. They are still making claims to have 100 by the year end. Even more next year. I wouldn't bash too much until they actually do miss their dates.

Footballfreak
Go ahead and bash.

When I ordered DirecTV HD in September, the salesperson at DirecTV very carefully explained that, while they had Albuquerque locals in HD, not all programming is in HD...duhh. When they installed, they said that they would have our locals by the end of December. In January, it was February.

Now that they have "delivered", they only have 2 HD locals. They claim 3, omitting CBS and PBS. But they don't have the NBC that they claim to have (it's right there on their web site). So even when the do "deliver" its not all everything, and not even what they claim.

But they took my $$ like they had delivered.

So please, go ahead and bash.

Site is pretty dull. Nothing posted for the last ten days. I assume eveyone has a great signal, gets all the HD they can handle, and are quite pleased with Suddenlink, D* and Dish? :)

Site is pretty dull. Nothing posted for the last ten days. I assume eveyone has a great signal, gets all the HD they can handle, and are quite pleased with Suddenlink, D* and Dish? :)

One of two things can be assumed from the lack of posts...you got one of them...the other is that we, as consumers, will be milked for all it's worth over the next few years. Technology is one the few industries where they can plan out five to ten years worth of milking the consumer just based on the hunger for everyone to have something better. Automobiles is another.

Something relevant....According to this site http://www.tvpredictions.com/cbshd042307.htm CBS will double the amount of NFL games produced in HD next year! About freaking time. But I haven't seen confirmation about this from anyone else.

And something to bitch about....Did anyone watch the Cavs/Wizards game Sunday on TNT and think it looked terrible? The color of the court or something just didn't look right to me. All the other games (even on TNT) looked great but there was just something about this one.

Site is pretty dull. Nothing posted for the last ten days. I assume eveyone has a great signal, gets all the HD they can handle, and are quite pleased with Suddenlink, D* and Dish? :)

I complained incessantly about Charter/Suddenlink not having local HDs. Now that we have them, I am satisfied and my motivation for posting has lessened. It appears others agree.

I noticed that PBS HD on Suddenlink was without sound. Has anyone else noticed this?

Sure Suddenlink has more HD, but sometimes it is unwatchable in my area of St. Albans.
One of my neighbors was so fed-up that he went to Dish.

Site is pretty dull. Nothing posted for the last ten days. I assume eveyone has a great signal, gets all the HD they can handle, and are quite pleased with Suddenlink, D* and Dish? :)

I had problems with HDNet and HDNet Movies last week for 2 nights the signal would just cut out but it was just those 2 so I thought it was them I made a post about it in another topic where someone that worked for HDNet had replied to a different problem on HDNet and replied to seeing our messages.


I emailed Suddelink to request that they add The Anime Network, their 24/7 channel.
I also asked about Universal HD since I noticed in another area that has Suddenlink they have it, I asked why we don't have it.
I sent it Friday evening and haven't gotten a response yet.


PBS HD not having sound happened almost exactly one month ago, but was fixed about a day after my post. Noboby replied to it so I don't think it had anything to do with it getting fixed.

Has anyone, by chance, heard anything about Suddenlink offering HD service in the old Cebridge / Thompson footprint? I live in Big Chimney, but my cable service comes through Sissonville. They've had high speed internet service for quite a while, but still no HD. Any insight?

I just got my HD DVR last weekend and am lovin it...seems i will love it even more very soon.... :)



DirecTV Plans 2,000 VOD Titles
'As Much as Possible' Will Be HD; Users Can Order Programs Online



DirecTV's upcoming launch of the first satellite-provider video-on-demand service will include 2,000 movie and television titles, with "as much as possible" in HD.

The service will launch in July for DirecTV customers with current-generation HD DVRs. Networks that currently offer VOD content&mdashsuch as Discovery and Showtime—will have their own VOD "channel" environment. The most popular content will be housed on DirecTV satellites, while the bulk of the library content will be delivered via the HD DVR's broadband connection.

"We have a commitment for 2,000 titles at launch, and that will continue to grow," said Eric Shanks, DirecTV's executive VP for entertainment. "We're pushing for as much as possible [in HD].

It will be a pretty small subset at the start, because there's not a whole lot of HD on demand."

The launch date for customers without HD DVRs has yet to be determined.

In addition to traditional television series and movies, DirecTV plans to encourage programmers to upload topical, short-form video. Such material could launch on the broadband server, then automatically switch to satellite once the VOD interest hits a certain level.

"If all of a sudden a news story about Don Imus is a very high-trafficked clip, the system will push that over to the satellite since everybody wants to see it," Mr. Shanks said.

Though cable operators have dismissed DirecTV's plan to launch a satellite-based VOD service as faux-VOD, Mr. Shanks said the operation will be very similar to the cable experience. Programs stored on the satellite will be available instantly, while users accessing library content via broadband can immediately begin watching the program "live" as it streams.

The only difference compared to cable VOD is that users will have to wait until the library content completely downloads before they can, for instance, skip forward to the end of a program. The rate of download will vary, determined by the user's broadband connection.

To help make the experience more seamless, DirecTV is planning to launch a new TiVo-like feature that will allow HD DVR users to order VOD programs (or schedule any DirecTV content for recording) online or by mobile phone.
"You will be able to browse titles on directv.com [and] have it waiting for you ready to go on your DVR when you get home," Mr. Shanks said.

The launch will coincide with a relaunch of DirecTV's music and photos service, through which users can stream photos and music from their home computers to their DirecTV set-top boxes.

The VOD service is part of DirecTV's effort to take the lead in the HD race, primarily by launching 100 HD channels by the end of the year. DirecTV's cable competitors have responded by ramping up their own declarations of HD boosting, but fellow satellite provider EchoStar has remained silent about any HD plans and generally declines media interviews on the subject.

"Unless [EchoStar has] a satellite hidden up their sleeve, I'm not aware of any launches," Mr. Shanks said. "You can track the rollout of local HD from Dish and get a sense of what speed they're moving, which is slower than us."




This article is part of TVWeek.com's High Definition newsletter, a weekly source of breaking HD news, articles and interviews written by Senior Reporter James Hibberd.

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Boo ESPN for not having an optimized HD feed for the draft

I lost the 13-1 & 3-1 signals last week. Is there something wrong with both ? If not, I guess tree growth & leaves blocked the signals.

I still get 8-1 & 11-1

I lost the 13-1 & 3-1 signals last week. Is there something wrong with both ? If not, I guess tree growth & leaves blocked the signals.

I still get 8-1 & 11-1

I get both still in Winfield. As a matter of fact, I get 3-1 better lately than I did in the winter.

Thanks, I guess the tree growth & leaves got me blocked.

I was getting the knife edge effect across the top of a mountain as I am 8 miles east of Charleston & over a couple of mountains.

Anyone got a strong laser I could use to cut a large signal hole through the limbs & leaves.

Washington, D.C. (May 8, 2007) -- Here's a list of the HD networks that DIRECTV has revealed thus far that it plans to add this year or early next:

A&E HD
The History Channel HD
National Geographic HD
Bravo HD
MHD
The Tennis Channel HD
Weather Channel HD
ESPNews HD
Toon Disney HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
Sci-Fi Channel HD
CNN HD
Food Network HD
Cartoon Network HD
Speed HD
FX HD
TBS HD
USA Network HD
The NFL Network HD
Starz HD (possibly four channels)
Cinemax HD

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The email I sent to Suddenlink about The Anime Network (TAN) 24/7 and Universal HD has been responded to they said they sent the request to the marketing department and the programming department.


They were taking a long time to respond (2 weeks) so I tried sending another and it said Suddenlink services are not available in that zip code so I tried 4 more times still didn't work so I tried hours later and it worked, as it turns out they received the 5 emails that said didn't work and I had missed the response from the first one (still 2 weeks) which didn't help at all, the response was something about:
local tv stations giving them consent and sometimes they remove local channels because they duplicate content on another channel or it doesn't meet their standards or general interest for the area.
But they have responded to 2 of what turned out to be 6 others (all the same I copied them word for word after rewriting the first). The first said they would forward it to their marketing department and log it so they have the data for new station requests and the second they said my request was sent to the programming department for further review.


Suddenlink has completed a deal for The Anime Network SVOD 30 hours of programing and costs $6.99 a month, I cant afford to spend that much for only 30 hours which looking at the schedule I would watch less then half of it mainly due to not wanting to watch a show that has gone through half the season.


Here is a post by zidanetribal2000 at theanimenetwork.com that could affect our current channel line up and HD channel additions:

"I just talked with a supervisor from Suddenlink in my area and unfortunately right now they are focused on, in my area (includes WV, OH, KY), is getting the phone service launched and increasing Internet speeds. Also with the launch of phone service they are going to add HDTV channels as well.

After which they said that they are going to review the channel lineup because they have channels that people rarely subscribe to (like 'Karaoke On Demand' which was Charter's Idea) and they are going to add channels that people would actually watch. The supervisor said that TAN has had a good number of requests in my area.

She did mention that cable areas in California and Texas should be getting TAN right now but in my area they are not going to add any new channels after they are done launching phone service, increasing Internet speeds, and adding HD channels. (And the supervisor is a huge fan of anime!!! And she said that when they review the channel lineup she is going to campaign for TAN.)"

This was 2 days before the TAN SVOD press release and no mention of it in my emailed responses which were after the release nothing was mentioned. Calling our local area Suddenlink numbers may not be the best way to find out about upcoming HD channels or non-HD channels. But if that supervisor is right it could be a long time before New HD Channels are added.




Wow I have finally made it to my 100th post.

Has anyone seen ABC HD and where WCHS puts their logo?

Its really annoying. It takes up too much space, with the ABC HD logo it takes up 30% of the width of the TV at the bottom of the picture (My TV is a 52in so it takes a 14in X 3in space). Can't WCHS place their logo over the top of the ABC HD logo you could still see both. Or they could just not use a logo its just really distracting during Lost.

With the dearth of recent posts it seems most people are now happy with the amount of HDTV they have. I am a Suddenlink subscriber in Kanawha City with 17 of the 18 channels available (not taking Showtime) and have to admit I am pleased as well. However Suddenlink subscribers should keep up the pressure to add additional channels. Saw on another thread that Discovery is adding 4 new HD channels this fall, I for one would like to have them!

I figure everyone has seen the lineup of HD Channels that D* announced for the Fall, after the launch of their new bird on 6/20.

Anyone have a clue if Charleston's Local HD channels will go live with the National Channels this Fall, or should we assume the locals will appear sometime in 2008 with the launch of the other bird?

I cancelled my HD Package and the Distant Network HD feeds through D*. The quality was so bad, I couldn't take it anymore. Because I didn't have an HD Tivo box, I rarely used my HD TV and couldn't justify the expense of channels I didn't watch.

Watching OTA channels, at least compared to D*, is night and day difference. I can still pick up 3-1, 8-1 and 11-1 from Sissonville with a small Phillips Indoor Antenna, but cannot pick up 13-1. Some folks are stating their Local HD through D* on MPEG 4 looks the same as their OTA channels, other's refute that. If the PQ looks better than their HD-Lite now, I will probably re-subscribe to the HD Package to get my locals in HD as well as all the other National HD channels D* is adding. Another plus is that D* announced they would not increase the HD package price. Hmmmmmmm. But, I have little interest until Charleston's Locals are in HD on D*. Anyone know?

Anyone have a clue if Charleston's Local HD channels will go live with the National Channels this Fall, or should we assume the locals will appear sometime in 2008 with the launch of the other bird?
No, but I did learn that Gray Communication's station in Madison WI is up on D* and if you didn't know, Gray now owns WSAZ. So it seems Gray has a contract with D*.

So unless BC is has been lieing about having an agreement with D*, all 4 nets should be up when our market does launch. So hopefully it is a plus that the agreements are in place.

For those who subscribe to D*....

Do you plan on upgrading to the MPEG-4 receiver (such as the HR20) and the 5LNB dish:

1) When the Charleston Locals are in HD on D*
2) This Fall when D* adds MANY new HD channels for the same price as the current HD Package
3) Now, to make sure you have it before the Football Season rush is on, even though we won't be able to enjoy anything in MPEG-4 until this fall?

For those that read the HD Programming Thread, Ken stated that D* will eventually carry all available HD channels (except the VOOM suite)

Tony, I don't really record much at all, so with a price tag of $300.00, I doubt that I will upgrade. However, with the onset of all the new HD channels, I could change my mind.

And, if I am not mistaken, they installed the 5LNB dish last may when I signed up for DirecTV.

DirecTV is saying on their site, that up to 150 channels by year end, and they also list the channels that they have already signed. But they have an asterisk beside that and go on to say that it depends on the number of channels that are broadcasting in HD.

Even though we may have locals in this area by year end, or early 2008, I will probably keep my outdoor antenna.

You are probably already aware of the DirecTV proposed launch of their satellite on June 20 of this year........ Ha, West Virginia day.....

Can't wait for the new HD channels. In most cases, the difference is huge compared to the regular digital broadcast.

For those who subscribe to D*....

Do you plan on upgrading to the MPEG-4 receiver (such as the HR20) and the 5LNB dish:

Since October I have been moving HR20's into my HR10 slots and my HR10's to the SD DVR slots. I still use the HR10's as backup recording the DNS HD feeds of our shows, but have been using the HR20 fulltime with OTA since January.

Already have a Slimline in place. So I will be ready the day they light up the new channels. :D

I guess I misunderstood the beginnings of the MPEG-4 system. I remember reading that they were rolling them out only to the areas where the Local HD was in place. I guess that's what I get when I quit reading threads on specific issues. I thought I had to wait, but now they've announced the new channels, I was trying to determine what I should do. Sounds like some already have the MPEG-4 receivers.

Does the HR20 allow you to record OTA HD?

I guess I misunderstood the beginnings of the MPEG-4 system. I remember reading that they were rolling them out only to the areas where the Local HD was in place.

Does the HR20 allow you to record OTA HD?
Once the national channels go live in September in Mpeg-4, anyone with an H20/HR20 and 5-LNB dish will be able to get them.

Yes, the HR20 records OTA.

god I wish suddenlink would give us espn 2 in HD

Once the national channels go live in September in Mpeg-4, anyone with an H20/HR20 and 5-LNB dish will be able to get them.

Yes, the HR20 records OTA.

Will the HR20 work with component (for HD) as well as HDMI, or HDMI only?

Both. In fact, it will output both at the same time. :) And right now CC has it for $299 less a $100 MIR.

Both. In fact, it will output both at the same time. :) And right now CC has it for $299 less a $100 MIR.

Wow, now that has me thinking about buying one. hmmm........

Both. In fact, it will output both at the same time. :) And right now CC has it for $299 less a $100 MIR.

That's good information.

Couple more questions for you.

1) I have DVR service now, but only have an SD Tivo box (before the D* DVR service). If I were to obtain the HR20, since I already pay the $4.99 fee for DVR/TIVO service, will that cover the DVR service for the HR20, or will that be ANOTHER $5?

2) I've read the HR20 (the newer ones or older ones with the newer firmware update) locks into OTA signals much better than some of the last generation tuners. I have one of the first generation tuners. Does it make sense that I may be able to lock in on channels a little easier with the HR20?

3) Speaking of this unit outputting HDMI and Component at the same time, do you have ANY clue on the distance limitation of Component Cables? Here is why I ask. I have an HD projector with a DVI input, and an HDTV-CRT model in my family room that only has component inputs. Currently, I don't have a D* receiver in my HT with the PJ as I didn't want to pay ANOTHER $5 a month for another receiver I wouldn't use too often. I'm thinking that I could place the Receiver in the HT and output the HDMI signal to the PJ, and run longer component cables to the Family room. I thought I've read if you use RG-6 for your component, you can do around 50'. Is that true? I may need more than that, I'm not sure yet.

4) Does the HR20 happen to have RF technology with an RF remote?

That's good information.

Couple more questions for you.

1) I have DVR service now, but only have an SD Tivo box (before the D* DVR service). If I were to obtain the HR20, since I already pay the $4.99 fee for DVR/TIVO service, will that cover the DVR service for the HR20, or will that be ANOTHER $5?



3) Speaking of this unit outputting HDMI and Component at the same time, do you have ANY clue on the distance limitation of Component Cables? Here is why I ask. I have an HD projector with a DVI input, and an HDTV-CRT model in my family room that only has component inputs. Currently, I don't have a D* receiver in my HT with the PJ as I didn't want to pay ANOTHER $5 a month for another receiver I wouldn't use too often. I'm thinking that I could place the Receiver in the HT and output the HDMI signal to the PJ, and run longer component cables to the Family room. I thought I've read if you use RG-6 for your component, you can do around 50'. Is that true? I may need more than that, I'm not sure yet.


4) Does the HR20 happen to have RF technology with an RF remote?

I "upgraded" from the HR10-250 to the HR20 and it' all covered under the same DVR fee.


I used to have a Panasonic 300U projector and from the HR10 to the projector I used three 50 pieces of RG6 cable from Home Depot with adaptors to RCA plugs and it worked great. A little bulky however.

The remote that came with my HR20 is both RF and IR.


If you don't mind the 2 year commitment you can probably call D* and get an HR20 for "free".

2) I've read the HR20 (the newer ones or older ones with the newer firmware update) locks into OTA signals much better than some of the last generation tuners.

3) Speaking of this unit outputting HDMI and Component at the same time, do you have ANY clue on the distance limitation of Component Cables?
2) It is about the same as my HR10's. I don't think they have the same 5th gen LG tuners that are in the H20.

3) I have a component run at around 150' with no issues. I used Belden 1694A cable with Leviton Quickport RCA jacks. One of the cable makers that are sponsors such as monoprice or bluejeans can make you a custom length one or you can make it yourself. Just try to keep all three cables the same length.

I "upgraded" from the HR10-250 to the HR20 and it' all covered under the same DVR fee.


I used to have a Panasonic 300U projector and from the HR10 to the projector I used three 50 pieces of RG6 cable from Home Depot with adaptors to RCA plugs and it worked great. A little bulky however.

The remote that came with my HR20 is both RF and IR.


If you don't mind the 2 year commitment you can probably call D* and get an HR20 for "free".

Thanks. I'm going to call D* tomorrow and see what they can do for me. I've been into HT and HD for a while now, but both my HD sets (PJ and Mits) are in the basement, and neither are on a DVR. My SD TV upstairs is on a DVR and with two little ones (trying to get them bathed and to bed), my wife and I can never watch live TV......SOooooooooooooo I rarely get to watch HD. With an HD DVR, I should be all set. From your post, and Dallas' post, I feel good that I can put the HR20 in my HT and run HDMI to the PJ in THAT room, and run component cables to the room with the Mits.

2) It is about the same as my HR10's. I don't think they have the same 5th gen LG tuners that are in the H20.

3) I have a component run at around 150' with no issues. I used Belden 1694A cable with Leviton Quickport RCA jacks. One of the cable makers that are sponsors such as monoprice or bluejeans can make you a custom length one or you can make it yourself. Just try to keep all three cables the same length.

WOW!!! 150'. I should have no problem then. Does the HR20 output multiple Audio as well? Am I limited to one Digital 5.1 output at a time, and the other being composite audio out, or can I only do one audio output at a time? Currently, I don't have a surround system for the Mits TV, so if I can run Toslink Fiber Optic out for my HT room (with HDMI video input), I'd be ok using RCA audio out with (with component video input) to the Mits.

Sorry for the imposition, but you guys have helped me in the past and I need a little help now. I have a DVR, HD service, and 2 additional boxes with Suddenlink. I passed on paying extra for Showtime and starting last month, my bill jumped up 30.00 per month. Could I get some feedback on which is better in this area; Directv or Dish. Should I stay with Suddenlink and just take it like a man?

Sorry for the imposition, but you guys have helped me in the past and I need a little help now. I have a DVR, HD service, and 2 additional boxes with Suddenlink. I passed on paying extra for Showtime and starting last month, my bill jumped up 30.00 per month. Could I get some feedback on which is better in this area; Directv or Dish. Should I stay with Suddenlink and just take it like a man?

This fall, DirecTV will be adding SEVERAL new HD channels with up to 150 NATIONAL HD channels by the end of the year. If you are looking for Quantity, then DirecTV is your best choice. If you are looking for Quality, it's up in the air. Both Dish and DirecTV only provide 1280 x 1080 instead of 1920 x 1080 (at least I think Dish does...I may be wrong on that). However, this may change for DirecTV with the MPEG-4 channels...we all hope anyway. DirecTV will have more HD channels than ANY other provider.

Sorry for the imposition, but you guys have helped me in the past and I need a little help now. I have a DVR, HD service, and 2 additional boxes with Suddenlink. I passed on paying extra for Showtime and starting last month, my bill jumped up 30.00 per month. Could I get some feedback on which is better in this area; Directv or Dish. Should I stay with Suddenlink and just take it like a man?

IMO, they all suck right now, it's just a matter of which one sucks the least. It's simply too soon to get what we really want and that is the majority of channels in HD. Until that happens, they are going to milk HD service for all they can get. Suddenlink is pretty much a cluster of idiots. I dropped them and switched to DirecTV and Verizon DSL just to get away. Even dropped a $1000/month Internet connection at work just because of the problems the past few months. I didn't care for the technology that DISH uses to get the feeds to multiple TVs, so I went with DirecTV. I will wait out the service and be happier when there is more HD.

The biggest problem I have with DirecTV is with dark scenes--because of the compression, the color and shading does not dither well.

Both. In fact, it will output both at the same time. :) And right now CC has it for $299 less a $100 MIR.
I purchased a HR20 from CC a few days ago and there was no mention of a $100 rebate (either in the store or at CC on-line). Where did you see this? Perhaps it is only for new D* subscribers.

I purchased a HR20 from CC a few days ago and there was no mention of a $100 rebate (either in the store or at CC on-line). Where did you see this? Perhaps it is only for new D* subscribers.
I saw it in the store last Wednesday.

IMO, they all suck right now, it's just a matter of which one sucks the least. It's simply too soon to get what we really want and that is the majority of channels in HD. Until that happens, they are going to milk HD service for all they can get. Suddenlink is pretty much a cluster of idiots. I dropped them and switched to DirecTV and Verizon DSL just to get away. Even dropped a $1000/month Internet connection at work just because of the problems the past few months. I didn't care for the technology that DISH uses to get the feeds to multiple TVs, so I went with DirecTV. I will wait out the service and be happier when there is more HD.

The biggest problem I have with DirecTV is with dark scenes--because of the compression, the color and shading does not dither well.
Thanks for some good information. One of my biggest concerns is switching my internet. Did you notice any difference between Cable and Verizon's DSL. Their fastest service would still save me 20.00 per mo. initially. More money to spend on Dish or D* as the case may be. I don't like the looks of Dish's HD DVR and don't understand exactly how they propose to run both a HD & standard tv with one unit. Dish's DVR is free while D* offers their newest, oddly enough, at $299 less $100 MIR. It may very well be the above mentioned HR20 since it looks identical to what is pictured on CC's site. I really don't know or have any idea of what the advantage this unit would be, having no experience with this type of equipment.

Moobear, I initially tried Verizon's DSL and it was painfully slow at our house. There was a big difference when we ended up getting Suddenlink. At your location, you might have better luck.

Moobear, I initially tried Verizon's DSL and it was painfully slow at our house. There was a big difference when we ended up getting Suddenlink. At your location, you might have better luck.

It all has to do with your service location of the DSLAM (wether it be the CO or the Pair Gain system near a development). You can get DSL UP TO 3Mbps, depending on your distance. The fastest cable internet is faster than DSL, due to the medium but it's on a shared infrastructure, which is bad. Cable is not as secure as DSL. This may not matter to you, but since I do a lot of work from home, that's something I'm concerned with. Also, DSL is dedicated, two copper wires to your house. Whatever your throughput is, is what it is. With cable, the more folks that are signed on at one time, the less bandwidth YOU will get. It's a total bandwidth capacity that is shared. If you are surfing the net when most kids are at school, you'll find fast access. However, if you try surfing when kids are getting home from school, you'll see slower speeds (how much slower depends on how many subscribers in your area). Too bad we aren't in a FIOS area so we could get 50Mbps...LOL

Thanks for some good information. One of my biggest concerns is switching my internet. Did you notice any difference between Cable and Verizon's DSL. Their fastest service would still save me 20.00 per mo. initially. More money to spend on Dish or D* as the case may be. I don't like the looks of Dish's HD DVR and don't understand exactly how they propose to run both a HD & standard tv with one unit. Dish's DVR is free while D* offers their newest, oddly enough, at $299 less $100 MIR. It may very well be the above mentioned HR20 since it looks identical to what is pictured on CC's site. I really don't know or have any idea of what the advantage this unit would be, having no experience with this type of equipment.

Not really much difference for me and I've been in the I.T. business for 15+ years. I was in on the startup of CityNet so I've been dealing with Internet connectivity since about '94. Not tooting my horn, just giving you an idea of my background. I'm at about the limit from the local CO and I'm getting 3Mbit, although the Verizon tech dept warned me it may be spotty, it hasn't been.

tonybradley is right about the technical specifics, although in most instances the norms do not apply in WV because the population is not dense enough in most areas. In other words, even during peak times, the shared bandwidth doesn't get taxed in most areas. The local Suddenlink guys say the only place they've really had this trouble was in the South Hills area and that was a couple years ago before the upgraded the nodes to handle 48Mbit. The thing to remember is that the bandwidth is all shared at some point, it's just a matter at what level. I have a client in Clarksburg that is getting 8Mbit with Time Warner on a cable modem. We get 10Mbit with a metro-ethernet connection at my office in Charleston. For those of us who were on Charter in the beginning, we had several months of problems like tonybradley described from about 3pm to midnight. However, it was because someone made a decimal point error when they calculated the required bandwidth needed for the service so for a period of time they only had 1/10th the bandwidth they needed, not the shared bandwidth.

That said, IMO, cable modem from Suddenlink used to be the best option for most people until Suddenlink took over from Charter. Since then they have reduced staff tremendously and the downtime and intermittent routing problems were killing us. Most of the time I had to call them and let them know what their problems were and the idiots up in B.C. are useless. If you can get someone in the Parkersburg call center you can usually get them to help you if you tell them you are in WV.

For most people, this is not an issue, but I run a VPN between my home and office. It's a biotch sometimes because with PPPoE your IP address changes if you DO ANYTHING to your firewall/router. For me, it's a pain in the ass, but once it's up and running and I don't touch it, it's solid as a rock.

Not really much difference for me and I've been in the I.T. business for 15+ years. I was in on the startup of CityNet so I've been dealing with Internet connectivity since about '94. Not tooting my horn, just giving you an idea of my background. I'm at about the limit from the local CO and I'm getting 3Mbit, although the Verizon tech dept warned me it may be spotty, it hasn't been.

tonybradley is right about the technical specifics, although in most instances the norms do not apply in WV because the population is not dense enough in most areas. In other words, even during peak times, the shared bandwidth doesn't get taxed in most areas. The local Suddenlink guys say the only place they've really had this trouble was in the South Hills area and that was a couple years ago before the upgraded the nodes to handle 48Mbit. The thing to remember is that the bandwidth is all shared at some point, it's just a matter at what level. I have a client in Clarksburg that is getting 8Mbit with Time Warner on a cable modem. We get 10Mbit with a metro-ethernet connection at my office in Charleston. For those of us who were on Charter in the beginning, we had several months of problems like tonybradley described from about 3pm to midnight. However, it was because someone made a decimal point error when they calculated the required bandwidth needed for the service so for a period of time they only had 1/10th the bandwidth they needed, not the shared bandwidth.

That said, IMO, cable modem from Suddenlink used to be the best option for most people until Suddenlink took over from Charter. Since then they have reduced staff tremendously and the downtime and intermittent routing problems were killing us. Most of the time I had to call them and let them know what their problems were and the idiots up in B.C. are useless. If you can get someone in the Parkersburg call center you can usually get them to help you if you tell them you are in WV.

For most people, this is not an issue, but I run a VPN between my home and office. It's a biotch sometimes because with PPPoE your IP address changes if you DO ANYTHING to your firewall/router. For me, it's a pain in the ass, but once it's up and running and I don't touch it, it's solid as a rock.

I'm an engineer for Verizon, so a big portion of my 401K comes with praising DSL a little more than Cable :D

I'm an engineer for Verizon, so a big portion of my 401K comes with praising DSL a little more than Cable :D

;)

I just had a very lengthy conversation with Suddenlink and they were actually very helpful. Way better than Charter used to be. She explained to me that a package that was grandfathered in from Charter had expired causing my cable bill to spike. She changed some things around and with the loss of REELZ & FOX Reality she managed to get my bill back to within 10.00 of what it was. Amazing how things like that seem to work out. I probably still would have cancelled if it weren't for her telling me that they were currently upgrading their internet to 6Mbit, twice what it is now, I believe. I'm a sucker for new tech & I think I will hang on long enough to see how that works. I really appreciate all your help & I may hang around this time. It is with no small amount of pride that I tell you that this WV thread is the only place I have not been met with a lot of arrogance & downright rudeness. Thanks guys!!

I have two 2 lcds both with ATSC/QAM tuners.

I hate suddenlink boxes ... so I asked them if there was anyway to get a cablecard for the sony and just let the qam on the other get channels without the box.

No on both. Cablecard wont allow vod/ 2 way comm. and everything is encrypted (minus the music choice channels) so no qam.

I check dtv everyday hoping they offer cwv hd locals ....

Basically its pointless to have built in tuners on any tvs running suddenlink.

I'm an engineer for Verizon, so a big portion of my 401K comes with praising DSL a little more than Cable :D

So much for objectivity.

So much for objectivity.

If I wanted to be objective, I'd place my vote for FIOS Internet, but we won't see it around here for a LONG LONG time, if ever. Oh, and I still prefer the 'technology' of DSL over cable internet. It all depends on where you live though relating to which is the best for you.

For example, where I live in Sissonville, the cable goes out a LOT. That means your internet service does as well. Not so with DSL. In many areas, the bandwidth for Cable far exceed that of DSL and may be a better choice. I'd just like the opportunity to have FIOS TV and Internet.

I am getting an education in cable internet. DSL is certainly starting to look better, especially with the 3Mbps they now offer. I like idea of better security which, from what I hear from you, is definitely better over a dedicated line. My 3Mbps Suddenlink service only measures 3Mbps at www.speakeasy.net which is a testing site they route you to. I found a connectivity test on MSN under tech tools that has measured mine as low as 768 Kbps & the highest I have gotten is 1550. They are currently upgrading to 6Mbps which, I guess, will get me to Verizon's 3 Mbps. I like what both MrWolfinWV and tonybradley had to say about congestion and if MSN's speed test is reliable, there is a lot of fluctuation with Suddenlink. I have not tried Verizon's so I don't know how constant their speed is.

http://speedtest.net/ is a good site to test your internet speed. When it was 384 Kbps it gave me a little over 410 Kbps and now its at 1.5 Mbps (1500 Kbps) and is giving me just over 1650 Kbps.

I have had or used all three major providers in the area (Verizon, Suddenlink, and Adelphia/Comcast)

Without a doubt, Verizon's DSL is the most stable. I had it for over 2 years and I was only down once for about 3 hours. I now have Comcast and even though my area has one of the newest cable plants in the area with fiber to the node and speeds in excess of 10M (yes 10 meg), I still have very short random outages/slowdowns that last for a few minutes. These seem to happen daily and although not a huge issue, it can be annoying.

We have Suddenlink at work and it is slow most of the time and even with business class service, it is prone to outages and slowdowns moreso than Comcast.

Due to a quirk of DSL technology, I can not get DSL at my house even though it available on my street. It seems that the RT that serves my area has both a copper trunk and a fiber trunk. Those homes fed by the all copper trunk can get DSL, thoise fed by the fiber trunk can not. Yet. I have been told by more than one Verizon employee that my RT is DSL ready and is scheduled to be upgraded soon. So we will see.

Once DSL is available again, I will be back with it in heartbeat as in my book, 3M DSL beats 10M cable.

Yes, the irony of DSL being available to those who are on copper lines only and not fiber. ;) Before broadband was here I had two phone lines installed. It took me forever to find out why the second line would only connect at low speeds. Once I got a hold of someone at Verizon that knew what was going on, they discovered that one line was fed completely by copper and one was fiber. I had to have them flip the two lines so my modem was on the first pair. What a pain it became once I had the second line disconnected which was now my first line on my account. It took weeks to get that nonsense straightened out.

Boy, we really strayed away from "Local HDTV Info" didn't we? :)

That's a big issue with DSL. Verizon's plant wasn't designed or implemented for Broadband service, but 56K Telephone service. With the advent of the Internet, Verizon had/has to find ways to overcome some of their own limitations in the plant. Because of the low frequency used for phone usueage, technicians practiced some bad habits over the many years that wasn't noticeable to the phone use, but is for high speed data (such as Bridge Taps on the copper lines). It is very ironic that when DSL was first introduced by Bell Atlantic, those that could afford it (who lived in nice developments) were served from Fiber, and that was the wrong technology for DSL. Since then, Verizon has been placing cards into the Pair Gain systems that feed these developments (or areas) that will allow for DSL. However, without going into the political reasons, they normally don't offer many ports, so it's OFTEN that your neighbor can have DSL and you won't because the ports are full. (This is seen not so much in Developments, but more rural areas also fed by pair gain systems from the CO)

Back to the local programming, I'm still using an indoor antenna in my basement for my locals. I still can't get 13-1. However, I can now get 3-1, 8-1 and 11-1 without turning the antenna. I didn't use to get 8-1 unless I moved the antenna. Has WCHS increased their power? It may be just an atmospheric phenomenon during this time of the year, which is why it's coming in so well without me moving my antenna.

I didn't use to get 8-1 unless I moved the antenna. Has WCHS increased their power? It may be just an atmospheric phenomenon during this time of the year, which is why it's coming in so well without me moving my antenna.
I wonder if it is vegitation cover. I know that sounds counter intuitive, but the vegitation can help eliminate multipath.

I wonder if it is vegitation cover. I know that sounds counter intuitive, but the vegitation can help eliminate multipath.

I guess I never thought of that, as like you said...it sounds counter intuitive. But, when speaking of mulitpath, its makes sense.

I haven't called D* to order the HR20 and 5LNB dish yet, but am hoping the HR20 works even better than my Zenith at locking into OTA channels. Honestly, once I have an HD DVR, I will probably invest in a REAL antenna for the attic so I can efficiently record HD OTA programs.

I need to see what kind of deal they'll make me. Many are getting it for $19.95 when upgrading from the HR10 (or was it H10?), but I'll be upgrading from an OLD Zenith SAT520.

I guess I never thought of that, as like you said...it sounds counter intuitive. But, when speaking of mulitpath, its makes sense.

I haven't called D* to order the HR20 and 5LNB dish yet, but am hoping the HR20 works even better than my Zenith at locking into OTA channels. Honestly, once I have an HD DVR, I will probably invest in a REAL antenna for the attic so I can efficiently record HD OTA programs.

I need to see what kind of deal they'll make me. Many are getting it for $19.95 when upgrading from the HR10 (or was it H10?), but I'll be upgrading from an OLD Zenith SAT520.
If your contract has expired you might mention that you are considering moving to cable where the HD DVR is "free".

As soon as I upgraded from the Sammy TS360 to D*** HDDVR my local HD reception has improved.

I only wish I could get Verizon DSL. In the boonies I am forced to use Hughes Net..

I only wish I could get Verizon DSL. In the boonies I am forced to use Hughes Net..
How is Hughesnet these days? I had it back in the one-way DirecPC days and then migrated to the first gen 2-way and soon went back to my one-way as it was better. I know they have upgraded things and there are hardware solutions as opposed to their buggy software.

works great....though it is slower to work from home vs...Verizon..

I am now up & running with Verizon's 3Mbps DSL & absolutely cannot tell any noticible difference. If anything, it may be just a touch faster page to page. Download speed seems to be about the same. Looks like the only thing I'm going to miss is paying Suddenlink substantially more money for internet service. Hopefully it won't be too long before I can get enough information to make a decision between Dish & D*. I really want to see exactly what D* does channel wise in the near future and I have yet to have anyone really give me the lowdown on Dish HD. My primary concerns with both networks are the quality of their HD DVR's and of course, programming. I'm sort of like the representative I talked to @ Dish in that I think it's great D* is going to have 150 HD channels, but what are they and where are they going to get them. Once again, thanks for the good advice on the DSL service.

DIRECTV Adds New HD Channels for Fall; Four Discovery HD Channels, Five Starz HD Channels, CNBC and Chiller to Join the HD Pack, More on the Way
HD Version of Disney's High School Musical 2 to Air Exclusively on DIRECTV

EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 23, 2007--DIRECTV, the nation's leading satellite television service provider, continues to set the stage for its unprecedented expansion of HD services. With agreements in place to launch four Discovery HD channels, five HD channels from Starz, CNBC and Chiller in HD, along with recently completed deals with The History Channel and A&E, DIRECTV is on schedule to roll out up to 100 national HD channels by year-end to satisfy the appetite of its HD customers, who have doubled over the last year.

"Earlier this year we called 2007 the 'Year of HD' and we're going to deliver on our commitment to offer more HD channels than any other multichannel provider," said Derek Chang, executive vice president, Strategy and Development, DIRECTV, Inc. "In addition to the networks we've signed to date, we will continue to add more HD programming to our launch list between now and year-end. Demand for HD continues to grow, and with the dramatic expansion of our capacity this summer and the nationwide reach of our service, we are uniquely positioned to lead the industry in the carriage and delivery of HD programming."

Under the agreement with Discovery Communications, DIRECTV will launch four simulcasts - Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet and The Science Channel - and two other channels to be named and launched by Discovery at a later date. The HD feeds of the four existing networks will launch in September.

DIRECTV also has an agreement in place with Starz to launch three new HD movie channels: Starz Edge, Starz Comedy and Starz Kids & Family, as well as Starz's East and West coast HD feeds. The new Starz HD channels, featuring first-run hit movies, and the Starz East and West HD channels, will also launch in September.

The History Channel and DIRECTV recently announced that DIRECTV will be the first to launch The History Channel HD, a new 24-hour HD network, and A&E HD in September.

As it continues to beef up its HD channel lineup, DIRECTV has also become the platform of choice for the debut of exclusive HD programming. Disney Channel is providing DIRECTV the exclusive rights to broadcast the premiere HD version of High School Musical 2, the highly anticipated sequel to the global sensation for kids and families. DIRECTV will air the movie in HD a few days after its standard-definition premiere Friday, August 17 on Disney Channel.

In addition to the networks listed below, DIRECTV also plans to offer the HD feeds of regional sports networks on a nationwide basis this fall, and has commitments from a number of other networks to launch their HD simulcasts. They will be added to the lineup for launch by year-end and will be announced at a later date.

To date, DIRECTV has signed agreements or agreements in principle, to launch the following networks.

-- A&E -- National Geographic
-- Bravo -- NFL Network
-- Cartoon Network -- SciFi Channel
-- CNN -- Speed
-- Food Network -- TBS
-- Big Ten Network -- The History Channel
-- HGTV -- The Weather Channel
-- MTV -- USA Network
-- Disney Channel -- Versus HD
-- Toon Disney -- TLC
-- ABC Family -- Animal Planet
-- ESPNNEWS HD -- The Science Channel
-- Starz E/W feeds -- Discovery Channel
-- Starz Edge -- The Tennis Channel
-- Starz Comedy -- Showtime West
-- Starz Kids & Family -- The Movie Channel
-- CNBC -- Chiller
HD networks currently offered by DIRECTV include ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, Discovery HD Theater, HDNet, HDNet Movies, TNT in HD, Universal HD, HBO HD, Showtime HD, an HD pay per view/special events channel and HD feeds from NY- and LA-based broadcast networks ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX (for eligible customers). DIRECTV also offers local HD broadcast channels in 60 cities, representing more than 70 percent of U.S. TV households.

DIRECTV's industry leading lineup of HD sports programming includes up to 10 MLB games a week in HD, and DIRECTV plans to offer all MLB games produced in HD beginning with the 2008 season. DIRECTV also offers NBA and NHL games in HD, and through its exclusive NFL SUNDAY TICKET(TM) Superfan subscription, DIRECTV customers have access to more than 150 NFL games in HD. In total DIRECTV offered more than 200 HD games last season, nearly twice as many as cable.

DIRECTV announced earlier this year that it will have the capacity to launch up to 100 national HD channels by the end of 2007, and offer local HD channels in up to 75 markets, following the launch of its D10 satellite this summer. The satellite will be operational and new HD services will begin rolling out in Q3.

The DIRECTV 11 satellite will be launched early next year to support further HD expansion. With the two satellites, DIRECTV will have the ability to deliver more than 1,500 local HD and digital channels and 150 national HD channels, in addition to new advanced programming services for customers.

About DIRECTV

DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading satellite television service provider, presents the finest television experience available to more than 16 million customers in the United States, through exclusive content, industry-leading customer satisfaction (which has surpassed cable for six years running) and superior technologies. Each day, DIRECTV subscribers enjoy access to over 250 channels of 100% digital picture and sound, exclusive programming and the most comprehensive collection of sports programming available anywhere, including NFL SUNDAY TICKET(TM) and MLB EXTRA INNINGS(R). DIRECTV (NYSE:DTV) also leads the digital television technology revolution with exclusives such as NFL SUNDAY TICKET SuperFan(TM), US Open Interactive and YES Network Interactive and will soon have the capacity to offer over 150 channels in HD. For the most up-to-date information on DIRECTV, please visit directv.com.

CONTACT: DIRECTV, Inc.
Robert Mercer, 310-964-4683
or
Darris Gringeri, 212-462-5136

SOURCE: DIRECTV, Inc

It might be time to start emailing Suddenlink to see when they will be adding any new HD channels.

anybody with time warner in ashland/huntington have any idea when wowk will be added in hd? it has been available on clear qam for almost a year yet it is still not available on the regular hd service. also, wsaz, wvah, and wchs are no longer listed under the "hd networks" on the menu. they are still available, but the program guide lists everything as to be announced...

It might be time to start emailing Suddenlink to see when they will be adding any new HD channels.


I called them because there is something wrong with the cable that runs from the outside box to my house, couldn't get internet or any digital cable and most analog stations had lots of static. Thankfully running a new cable over the ground has fixed most the problem until they get here.


I asked when they would add HD cannels and they said they didn't know and usually get notice 1-2 weeks before its added. I haven't asked for a supervisor, maybe they know more.

HBO to Offer All Channels in High-Def
By Stephanie Robbins

HBO will make all 26 feeds of its HBO and Cinemax multiplex channels available in high definition, HBO CEO and Chairman Bill Nelson announced Tuesday.

"We have a long history of firsts in technology: satellite, multiplex and SVOD," Mr. Nelson said. "Such a commitment reinforces our tradition of giving our customers the best programming when they want it and how they want it."

With the launch of HBO HDTV in 1999 and Cinemax HDTV in 2003, HBO was the first national cable network to offer high-def feeds.

The network's all-digital multiplex packages include:

HBO (East/West)
HBO2 (East/West)
HBO Signature (East/West)
HBO Comedy (East/West)
HBO Family (East/West)
HBO Zone (East/West)
HBO Latino (East/West)
Cinemax (East/West)
MoreMAX (East/West)
ActionMAX (East/West)
ThrillerMAX (East/West)
WMAX (East)
@MAX (East)
5StarMAX (East)
OuterMAX. (East)


Tags: Cinemax, HBO, HD
Posted on June 12, 2007 1:12 PM | Permalink

Directv is getting a lot of business out of not only having a plan when it comes to HD, but announcing their intentions complete with a timeline, obviously. I'm impressed now that I've seen it, but I believe that Suddenlink and Dish as well as the other carriers need to be aware that HD is important to all of us consumers who have made quite an investment in HD equipment. Our numbers are growing and a carrier that we pay an average of 100.00 per month to owes us a little bit better than "we can only answer that as it comes available". Are they standing outside with a bucket waiting on it to rain HD channels? I had an extremely bad experience with Directv several years ago and absolutely do not want to go back there, but at least they seem to recognize that HD is a market worth addressing. I can't get any definite future plans from anybody but D* so maybe in the immortal words of Sean Connery, "Never Say Never Again."

With D*, I'd settle on a date to when they'll have our Locals in HD. Last year, we all felt that this would be the year that D* added our Locals in HD since we were ranked 64th (or something near that). However, D* has been adding geographical locations outside of this matrix. I think they've even added one or two that were ranked over 100. I'm afraid that 'MOST' of the HD channels D* will add will be like TNT where most is not HD, but stretched SD. That's not D*'s fault, but just afraid what will happen. Any guesses on when D* will carry our Locals in HD?

The biggest reason I haven't dropped Suddenlink is because of the local channel issue. I remember when it seemed like our SD locals were never going to be available and then all of a sudden, they were. I don't have a lot of requirements as far as HD is concerned, but our local channels are certainly on the list. I probably will not switch until either Directv or Dish has them and whichever is first, probably will get my business. By that time maybe Suddenlink will be the way to go. Who knows. Has anyone actually compared PQ between cable, Directv, & Dish. I don't know what Suddenlink is carrying as far as TNT, but it is one of the better HD channels I get, depending on what is being broadcast. Newer movies (Lord of the Rings for example) are darn near 3D. Discovery HD is the best, but TNT sometimes is close.

I live in Kanawha City and have an OTA antenna. For the first time ever, I am picking up three PBS digital stations with my indoor antenna. 33-1 is WPBY is just the regular PBS, but I also get 33-3 and 33-4. Does anybody know what these stations are?

I live in Kanawha City and have an OTA antenna. For the first time ever, I am picking up three PBS digital stations with my indoor antenna. 33-1 is WPBY is just the regular PBS, but I also get 33-3 and 33-4. Does anybody know what these stations are?
They are digital channels from West Virginia Public Broadcasting. 33-3 is "Create." It broadcasts cooking and home improvement shows. 33-4 is the PBS High Defination channel.

I live in Ashland, Kentucky and for the past several days the digital signal from WOWK has been cutting in and out. Most of the time I don't get any signal at all. It used to be one of my stronger signals.

Are they having problems with their "high power" digital transmitter? I remember from past discussions that they have both low power and high power digital transmitters. They have had problems with the high power transmitter before.

Also, as someone asked earlier, does anyone know when the high defination signal from WOWK will be added to the Ashland cable system? We have the HD signals from the other local commercial stations...

I haven't seen any mention here of the weather radar they broadcast on their second digital channel. I think it is a very useful service but it's signal is also down most of the time now.

DirecTV 10 is up!

Last night the new DirecTV 10 satellite launched in Kazakhstan, Russia. With this successful launch, DirecTV will have the ability to offer 100 HD channels by year end with many scheduled to go live in September.

From what I understand this morning, D10 is in orbit successfully........

It's interesting that neither of my Dell TVs (made by Phillips) will pick up any of the four locals in HD, but I can get ALL FOUR using an HVR-950 USB tuner for the PC. Goes to show how much discrepancy there is in this stuff. I wonder how many people have struggled with this stuff and the whole problem they never knew about was a crappy tuner.

I live in Ashland, Kentucky and for the past several days the digital signal from WOWK has been cutting in and out. Most of the time I don't get any signal at all. It used to be one of my stronger signals.

Are they having problems with their "high power" digital transmitter? I remember from past discussions that they have both low power and high power digital transmitters. They have had problems with the high power transmitter before.

Also, as someone asked earlier, does anyone know when the high defination signal from WOWK will be added to the Ashland cable system? We have the HD signals from the other local commercial stations...

I haven't seen any mention here of the weather radar they broadcast on their second digital channel. I think it is a very useful service but it's signal is also down most of the time now.

maybe wowk is having signal issues and is why they are no longer available on qam from time warner...

i too would really like to know what the status of getting them added to the regular cable package is.

FROM A DISH PRESS RELEASE.

DISH Network Expands Nation's Largest HD Package
More National HD Channels, More HD Regional Sports Networks

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., July 10, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- EchoStar Communications Corporation (Nasdaq:DISH) and its DISH Network(tm) satellite TV service today announced exciting enhancements to its industry-leading DishHD programming package.

On July 11, DISH Network will launch eight Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) in high definition (HD) that feature game-only baseball content, including Fox Sports Network Arizona (Ch. 365), Fox Sports Network Northwest (Ch. 376), Fox Sports Network Cincinnati (Ch. 377), Fox Sports Network Pittsburgh (Ch. 378), Fox Sports Network Detroit (Ch. 380), SportsTime Ohio (Ch. 381), Fox Sports Network North (Ch. 386), and SportsNet New York (DISH Network Ch. 388). With the launch of nine HD RSNs earlier this year, these new additions bring DISH Network's total lineup of HD RSNs to 17, with more channel launches planned for Aug. 15.

Also on Aug. 15, DISH Network will add seven national HD channels to its DishHD programming package, including MHD, featuring music programming from MTV, VH1 and CMT; Golf/Versus HD; Animal Planet HD; The Science Channel HD; TLC HD; Discovery HD, and History HD, which will debut on Sept. 1. With these additions -- plus more planned for mid-September -- DishHD subscribers will continue to have access to the largest national HD lineup in the United States.

"No one currently has more national HD channels than DISH Network, and we're committed to maintaining that edge by enhancing DishHD with channels that exemplify the top-quality programming our customers enjoy," said Eric Sahl, senior vice president of Programming for DISH Network. "When it comes to high definition, DISH Network offers not only the best programming, but the best technology and value as well, including the only free HD DVR in the industry and, starting Aug. 15, six months of DishHD programming for free."

DISH Network's DishHD currently offers customers more than 200 hours per day of HD content from the nation's top programmers and is a $20 add-on to digital definition programming packages, including the DishDVR Advantage. The HD RSNs are available to customers who subscribe to DISH Network's America's Top 100 Plus programming with DishHD.

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It would be nice if Suddenlink would add some HD channels to keep up with the competition.

We currently have 17 channels. According to this article http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6439451.html Suddenlink has 23 HD channels in systems that offer a full HD compliment. 2 of those are most likely MyNetworkTV and the CW which isn't their fault. UniversalHD is offered on some but not ours (I have asked about it and they said they would forward the request when they make channel lineup decisions) but there is still 3 HD stations they have that I don't know what they are.

Actually we are right where the competition is. Some cable companies count east and west feeds (ex. HBO east and HBO west) as separate HD channels like Comcast in DC, we don't get west coast feeds so we will never have those, They also have Regional Sports Networks that have HD feeds.

There are currently 11 national HD stations we don't get (and 15 Voom), They are:
Universal HD
ESPN2 HD
Mojo
MTV HD (MHD)
LifeMovie HD
WealthTV
NFL HD
Versus HD
Golf HD
Outdoor2 HD
TMC HD

You also have NFL Sunday Ticket HD but its Direct TV exclusive, and MyNetworkTV and the CW have to be broadcast by our local stations in HD for Suddenlink to carry it.

Currently no provider offers all HD channels, Dish doesn't have 8, and Comcast doesn't have 6 (HDNET and HDNETMovies are 2 of them) or VOOM, those offer the most. There is a chance that we could get the VOOM channels as they are shopping them around to cable companies, but if this would take up to much space and interfere with stations such as Sci-fi and USA being added in early 08 I would rather not have VOOM.

Unfortunately I would not expect any channels to be added until September when more channels are available:
TBSHD
Animal Planet HD
The Science Channel HD
TLC HD
History HD
HBO2 HD
HBO Family HD
HBO Signature HD
HBO Latino HD
MoreMax HD
Starz Comedy HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD

If you are not with Directv in SEPT you will be sorely disappointed. Suddenlink/ comcast dont stand a chance in this market. I dont see many cableco trucks out there stringing new line...

Suddenlink had been doing things last month. They introduced their phone service and raised everyones internet speed, the minimum is now 1.5 MBs up from 384 KBs.

I don't know how much bandwidth they have available but if we get any it will probably be TBS, Animal Planet, TLC, History, and The Science Channel since we have TNT and Discovery. They may actually get rid of the SD feed of The Science Channel from the digital family tier since you need a box anyway to get it. I didn't actually think we would get them all I was just listing the ones available that we don't have.


I just need them to come out and bury the cable wire to the house which I haven't even heard back and I called them once over two weeks ago to remind them.

If you are not with Directv in SEPT you will be sorely disappointed. Suddenlink/ comcast dont stand a chance in this market. I dont see many cableco trucks out there stringing new line...

The problem Suddenlink has is that they still have to carry the analog channels. There a still a lot of people who simply plug that coax into the back of the TV and receive the analog channels only without a box. And those analog channels take up a *lot* of bandwidth. Remove those, and the cable companies could catch up fairly well. Of course, then people would either have to get a set-top box or get a digital TV...neither of which will appeal to some folks. Then again, they'll have no choice once 2009 rolls around.

It will be interesting to see what happens that year.

The problem Suddenlink has is that they still have to carry the analog channels. There a still a lot of people who simply plug that coax into the back of the TV and receive the analog channels only without a box. And those analog channels take up a *lot* of bandwidth. Remove those, and the cable companies could catch up fairly well. Of course, then people would either have to get a set-top box or get a digital TV...neither of which will appeal to some folks. Then again, they'll have no choice once 2009 rolls around.

It will be interesting to see what happens that year.

Suddenlink has a lot more issues than that. Hopefully they will get their act together someday. I hate to see so many people with absolutely no choice.

is anybody out there still using an ota antenna to p/u wowk? the signal is no longer on time warner, and i checked my ota and it was gone too.

For the past couple of months I have only been able to pick up WOWK's digital signal OTA occasionally in the Ashland area. Usually it is late at night and the signal strength is very low. I have sent two emails asking if they were having transmitter problems but I haven't received a reply.

Does the summer weather have anything to do with this?

Neither the station nor Time Warner will reply to questions about when, or if, WOWK's HD signal will be added to the cable lineup.

is anybody out there still using an ota antenna to p/u wowk? the signal is no longer on time warner, and i checked my ota and it was gone too.

Seems to be working ok for me. I'm in the Elkview (actual Pinch) area.

Anyone getting the Arena Bowl in HD? I read it's supposed to be.

Anyone getting the Arena Bowl in HD? I read it's supposed to be.


it wasn't in hd when i flipped thru the channels earlier

is anybody out there still using an ota antenna to p/u wowk? the signal is no longer on time warner, and i checked my ota and it was gone too.

It appears to be working fine with me (S. Ashland area).

it wasn't in hd when i flipped thru the channels earlier

I saw the Arena Bowl highlights in HD on Sportscenter, so somebody dropped the ball.

I saw the Arena Bowl highlights in HD on Sportscenter, so somebody dropped the ball.

As an update. I ordered the HD DVR through D* and the 5LNB dish today. They wanted to charge me $199 for the HD DVR. I asked to talk to the Retention Dept. I told them it made no sense they are offering folks that are 'Moving' a free HD DVR, but not customers who remained at their location. I was told a bunch of info that made no sense, but in the end, I got the HD DVR and 5LNB dish for shipping ($19.99). However, the unit is Refurbished. The gentleman I spoke with said that their $19.99 offers for HD DVRs are refurbished. I personally don't mind refurbished units as they are fixed to NEW specs. I don't know if that's true that all $19.99 deals are refurbished units, but mine will be. But, it has the latest firmware on it.

I asked him what the warrenty was on the refub units. He told me it was 90 days, or maybe a year, he couldn't remember. When I asked what happens if the warrenty is up and the refurb unit breaks, he said I'd have to pay $20 to have a new one shipped. Big Whoopdy doo!!!! It could break 9 times after the warrenty and I'd still come out even as if I paid $200 for the HD DVR now.

Just wanted to throw that out there incase anyone is looking to upgrade to an HD DVR. Please don't use my name if you tell them you know of someone that got a deal. Just say you have read plenty of forum information like I did.

Tony,
Congrats, someone finally got a deal from D*! Please let us know how the refrub. unit works.

My wife is from Sissonville.

Also, thanks for all the high quality information you provide us for free!

Tony,
Congrats, someone finally got a deal from D*! Please let us know how the refrub. unit works.

My wife is from Sissonville.

Also, thanks for all the high quality information you provide us for free!

I will let you know. Good thing is, since it's leased, if something happens, they replace it for free. Did your wife graduate from Sissonville?

Has anyone heard any possibilities of when D* may handle our Local HD channels?

Possibilities, as I have heard, are that when DirecTV's D11 satellite goes up later this year........mmm, maybe in November or December.

I have picked up most of this info from DBSTalk.com. It seems that most believe that the D10 satellite will bring on line many of the National broadcast around Sept 9th or 10th, and the D11 will have further National broadcast available and have the additional capacity for local HD channels.

From what I have read, the D10 satellite will be turned over to DirecTV by tommorrow for testing, and be online and ready to go on the 10th of Sept.

However, I do not keep up on this as much as some others might.

Possibilities, as I have heard, are that when DirecTV's D11 satellite goes up later this year........mmm, maybe in November or December.

I have picked up most of this info from DBSTalk.com. It seems that most believe that the D10 satellite will bring on line many of the National broadcast around Sept 9th or 10th, and the D11 will have further National broadcast available and have the additional capacity for local HD channels.

From what I have read, the D10 satellite will be turned over to DirecTV by tommorrow for testing, and be online and ready to go on the 10th of Sept.

However, I do not keep up on this as much as some others might.

I had an 'uneasy' fealing when one of the moderators stated that D* is picking and choosing which markets they add. When they began rolling out HD Locals, Charleston was number 54 I believe. Since that time, I believe they've added 1 or more markets lower than us. I just hope we aren't a local market that get skipped. I'm trying to remain positive that our locals will be up in the first quarter of 2008 from the D11 Sat.

I've read some good things about the current Local HD channels on MPEG-4 look as good (at least no noticeable differences) as the OTA HD signals. Let's hope they maintain that level of PQ and not drop it to fit all the other HD markets within their allowable bandwidth.

Charleston was number 54 I believe..
Charleston is 64 down from 61 last year. There are several markets much smaller than us that have HD Locals, but there seems to be a couple of good reasons. Fresno at #109 (??) has an ABC O&O, so D* will take care of the networks. The rest mostly seem to be in the Mountain or Pacific time zone, so it seems D* was hedging their bets on the launch of D* 10/11. If disaster struck, they could have gotten a little bandwidth by shutting down the LA HD feeds since they had taken care of all the western O&O's.

Even at this point, they have not begun to use all the capacity of the Spaceways much less what D*10 will bring online. D* could have done 100 markets with 5 channels each with the Spaceways.

One good thing we have going for us is that three stations (ABC & Fox - Sinclair; NBC- Gray) are owned by large media companies with carriage agreements in place. So D* can light up those 3 without any hassle. And from emails I have received from Bray Cary, WOWK has an agreement in place. So D* faces few obstacles in lighting up our locals.

But time will tell. I am looking forward to mid-September when D* lights up another 20+ channels.

Charleston is 64 down from 61 last year. There are several markets much smaller than us that have HD Locals, but there seems to be a couple of good reasons. Fresno at #109 (??) has an ABC O&O, so D* will take care of the networks. The rest mostly seem to be in the Mountain or Pacific time zone, so it seems D* was hedging their bets on the launch of D* 10/11. If disaster struck, they could have gotten a little bandwidth by shutting down the LA HD feeds since they had taken care of all the western O&O's.

Even at this point, they have not begun to use all the capacity of the Spaceways much less what D*10 will bring online. D* could have done 100 markets with 5 channels each with the Spaceways.

One good thing we have going for us is that three stations (ABC & Fox - Sinclair; NBC- Gray) are owned by large media companies with carriage agreements in place. So D* can light up those 3 without any hassle. And from emails I have received from Bray Cary, WOWK has an agreement in place. So D* faces few obstacles in lighting up our locals.

But time will tell. I am looking forward to mid-September when D* lights up another 20+ channels.

I'm looking forward to the new HD channels. My upgrade happens Thursday. But, because they are sending me a refurbished HR20, it's coming before the installer gets here. Unfortunately, it's not here yet after a week. I hope it gets here before Thursday morning's install date.

I've noticed the 5LNB dish appears to only have 3 transponders on it. They look a little different from each other. Do (2) of them handle two LNBs, plus the third one to make 5?

Although I'm very excited about all the National Channels D* is adding, I'm looking forward to the Locals in HD the most.

I've noticed the 5LNB dish appears to only have 3 transponders on it. They look a little different from each other. Do (2) of them handle two LNBs, plus the third one to make 5?
The 99/101/103 are located under the larger housing. If you remove the cover, you can see all 3 antennas. The 110 and 119 each have their own housing.

Hi all

Just wanted to subscribe to this thread :)

I am out of the Ashland KY area, picking up all my HD from OTA

I have several media center PCs that I am using for this and recently got a 37" LCD HDTV set from Big Sandy

From my local it looks like I mainly have trouble with channel 8s HDTV signal, havent been able to pick it up at all :( there were one or two times I was able to but it looks liek the antenna has to be dead on to get it in, and it is really touchy :(

Well I'm supposed to have a DirecTV installer come in the morning and install the 5LNB dish (in preparation for the new HD channels DirecTV is supposed to turn on next month). I already have the HR10. Wish me luck. I've had mixed luck with these guys in the past.

Well I'm supposed to have a DirecTV installer come in the morning and install the 5LNB dish (in preparation for the new HD channels DirecTV is supposed to turn on next month). I already have the HR10. Wish me luck. I've had mixed luck with these guys in the past.

Hmmmm! Have you asked them if you can get the HR-20 DVR. Many are getting it for no more than shipping. You may want to ask.

I have called and tried, but they want the full $299, but since you are upgrading, you may qualify. It could be worth asking.

is the JETs game tonight not in HD?

is the JETs game tonight not in HD?

finally...

they must have been waiting for Chad to get taken out...

2 pick 6's :eek:

For those in the Ashland area I just downloaded a new channel guide from Time Warner Cable. It shows a significant rearrangement of the digital and high defination channels. The only two new channels that jumped out at me were ESPN2 in HD and NBA TV. A careful review might reveal others. I don't know when this change is supposed to go into effect.

Here is a link to the new channel guide: http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?ChannelFilter=All&CLUID=821&Zip=41101&SortByPackage=false&Printable=True

Well I'm supposed to have a DirecTV installer come in the morning and install the 5LNB dish (in preparation for the new HD channels DirecTV is supposed to turn on next month). I already have the HR10. Wish me luck. I've had mixed luck with these guys in the past.

How did things go with your installation? I have having the 5LNB dish and the HR10 "replacement" installation on Aug 31. I couldn't get them to give it to me for free, but around $100 plus they are wiring to another room and a free month of Showtime.

For those in the Ashland area I just downloaded a new channel guide from Time Warner Cable. It shows a significant rearrangement of the digital and high defination channels. The only two new channels that jumped out at me were ESPN2 in HD and NBA TV. A careful review might reveal others. I don't know when this change is supposed to go into effect.

Here is a link to the new channel guide: http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?ChannelFilter=All&CLUID=821&Zip=41101&SortByPackage=false&Printable=True


i can't get the link to work

maybe my weekly emails to time warner have made a difference...

ok, i found the line-up.

looks like espnu added (can watch the marshall/miami game now). they also left a slot for another HBO in HD (i have heard this is coming soon). still no cbs though (back to the weekly emails)...

I have also been sending emails to Time Warner and WOWK about CBS. I have never received a reply from either of them.

Have they told you anything?

I have also been sending emails to Time Warner and WOWK about CBS. I have never received a reply from either of them.

Have they told you anything?

not a word...

How about some weekly emails to suddenlink for ESPN 2 in HD!!!!!

^
Be nice to have ESPN2 by the MU/WVU game.

I do send quarterly emails for ESPN2 HD. Maybe I will need to send them more often.

The time is near my friends.....D has placed the bird in orbit and applied for an early boot with the FCC. OH yes...the Big ten network HD, NFL HD, Fox Sports HD, ESPN news HD, and the list goes on. Patience is virtue....now heres oping my tv doesnt blow out :)

FINALLY A REAL HD LINEUP is very close indeed. Pray there aren't any comets or space junk that might spoil my football plans!!!!!

My poor wife!:cool:

The time is near my friends.....D has placed the bird in orbit and applied for an early boot with the FCC. OH yes...the Big ten network HD, NFL HD, Fox Sports HD, ESPN news HD, and the list goes on. Patience is virtue....now heres oping my tv doesnt blow out :)

FINALLY A REAL HD LINEUP is very close indeed. Pray there aren't any comets or space junk that might spoil my football plans!!!!!

My poor wife!:cool:

man you are really making me think about switching from time warner...

i wonder what it would cost to keep my cable internet and switch to dtv?
would i have to keep basic cable?

I do send quarterly emails for ESPN2 HD. Maybe I will need to send them more often.

I am not sure they are actually reading the emails, here is one I sent recently with their response (I forgot to mention ESPN2 HD):

I have heard that Sci-fi HD is coming out this fall, Is this going to be added to our line-up? There are also other new HD Channels such as the Discovery owned channels (currently available) and TBS HD launches Sept. 1. There are some old ones as well such as Universal HD which is available from Suddenlink in some other areas.
When do plan on adding any new HD channels?
What channels do you plan to add?

Is there any reason why our local CW sation does not have a HD channel on our cable system? I have not been able to contact the station.

Response:
Thank you for your inquiry. Suddenlink is committed to providing the best customer service possible.

Cable companies must pay TV network owners - also called programmers -- to carry their channels, and in some cases, the programmers demand more in payment than the value of the product they offer our customers. Relative to the hundreds of channels we offer our digital subscribers, these changes affect only a very small percentage of our total package. The bottom line is that we constantly try to negotiate the best possible value for the dollar for our customers to keep the prices you pay as low as possible. These lineup changes will not result in price changes for our customers.



Your request will be forwarded to the marketing department. The request will be logged so that they will have data that they can use when we are able to make a choice about adding new channels.


We hope that we have been able to provide you with the information you requested. If we have not, or if we can be of any additional service to you, please do not hesitate to contact us again.



They did not answer any question.

I believe what they are trying to say is that, in their opinion, the HD market is not yet big enough for it to be cost-efficient for them. If enough of their customers suggest otherwise, it may change their opinion.

Depending on where you live.....I believe D and Verizon have a bundle.....Dont know about the access in the mountian mamma.

Yeah, thats the same reply I got from suddenlink about a month ago. nice!

Anyone else having issues with pulling in WOWK?

I have been having problems picking up WOWK's digital signal all summer. Once in a while I can get it for short periods. I live in the Ashland area and have an outside antenna. I have not changed the position of the antenna and I have not had reception issues with the other local stations.

I don't know if atmospheric conditions are causing the reception problems or if the station is not broadcasting its digital signal at the same strength as it did last spring. The signal used to be as strong or stronger than the output from the other stations.

Time Warner Cable does not carry WOWK in HD in the Ashland area. Does anyone know when or if that is going to change?

I have been having problems picking up WOWK's digital signal all summer. Once in a while I can get it for short periods. I live in the Ashland area and have an outside antenna. I have not changed the position of the antenna and I have not had reception issues with the other local stations.

I don't know if atmospheric conditions are causing the reception problems or if the station is not broadcasting its digital signal at the same strength as it did last spring. The signal used to be as strong or stronger than the output from the other stations.

Time Warner Cable does not carry WOWK in HD in the Ashland area. Does anyone know when or if that is going to change?

same here, i've struggled all summer with the ota signal. i've also sent about 100 emails to wowk and TWC and have never rec'd a response from either. TW has their new "coming soon" line-up posted on their website. wowk hd is not listed...

Radiolarian / andy

I live in South Ashland and don't seem to be having any difficulty picking up WOWO in HD with my outdoor antenna. Is it only during specific times?

Either one of you (or both) are more than welcome to stop by and we can look and see if there is anything different about my setup that may help with your own.

I get 13 DTV as well with little to no problems, in fact my antenna is rigged in a not so great manor lol on the side of my house using a make shift holder for the rod to hold it (can't get on the roof, no ladder and house is tall and long with other homes close by)

Antennaweb.org is a great help if you havent been there already, gives you a direction to point toward.

Yes footbal freak, I have been having trouble for about a week or more now. Had no trouble to speak of until then.

Did you start having trouble in the same relative time frame?

Are there some professional installers in the area that have signal strength meters they use to aim antennas more precisely than the trial and error method I've been using?

I live in Kanawha City and I'm having the same problems with WOWK. I usually get it in the high 80's with my antenna. For the past week or so, I get it in the low-50's. What gives? All my other channels are coming in fine.

My new 5LNB and HR20 (HD DVR) for D* was installed last week. The first time It was scheduled, the tech said his work order was incorrect and couldn't do anything until I rescheduled. Because of that headache, I was able to get an additional $100 Credit to my account (That was after talking them into the HR20 for only the cost of Shipping and handling, $10 credit each month for 6 months and Showtime free for 3 months).

I am still using my little Phillips Indoor Powered Antenna sitting on my windowsill in the basement, that is only 2' above ground level. The HR20 does a MUCH better job at locking in the OTA signals than my previous Zenith SAT 520 HD Receiver. Knock on Wood, but at this point, I've had NO problems picking up 3-1, 8-1 and 11-1 without turning my indoor antenna. I still do not pick up 13-1, but I'm happy that 8-1 is coming in fine. However, I'm curious if they upped their power, because my Signal Strength for both 8-1 and 11-1 is 77%. Before, I had around 77% for 11-1, but only around 45% to 60% for 8-1 with the antenna pointing in the same direction.

I removed the HD package from D* a few months ago because of the PQ was poor in my opinion. However, now, I think the PQ looks OUTSTANDING. I don't know if D* has increased their bit rate, or if the new receiver does a better job at scaling than my older one did. All I know is I'm very happy with the PQ and can't wait for our Locals to go active on D* (which is why I haven't invested in a better antenna with a better installation).

Thanks for the update and info tony.

About how long did the install take? I'm scheduled for this Friday between 8 and noon. This is to replace my hr10-250 with the HR20. They are also supposed to wire to my bedroom which I'll put my old receiver.

I'm definetley looking forward to the new sats going live next month also.

Good luck on the install.. I've had my 5lnb install cancelled TWICE on the day it was scheduled.

Scheduled again on 9/8.

Thank clueless.

What has been the reason for the cancellation in your case(s)?

Good luck with yours as well.

Thanks for the update and info tony.

About how long did the install take? I'm scheduled for this Friday between 8 and noon. This is to replace my hr10-250 with the HR20. They are also supposed to wire to my bedroom which I'll put my old receiver.

I'm definetley looking forward to the new sats going live next month also.

It took them about 2 hours, but one of the guys was "in training". The room in my basement where the HD DVR was being installed only had one Coax line to it. I ran a second line from my central coax spot in the basement to the room and installed a 2nd jack. So, the installers didn't have to do that. All they had to do was run an additional coax line from the sat, into my basement (not very far) and connect it to the line I ran to my room. The install of the Dish is what took the longest time. Because of the size, they couldn't install it on the side of my eve like the 3LNB dish. It's on top of my roof. I look like the home of Doppler Radar, but it's worth it for all the HD coming our way.

Good luck on the install.. I've had my 5lnb install cancelled TWICE on the day it was scheduled.

Scheduled again on 9/8.

My first install was cancelled. The second install was to be between 8AM and 12PM, and they showed up at 5PM. Because of the first cancellation, I called and pitched a fit as I stayed home from work that day. They credited my account of $100, $10 credit a month for 6 months, plus Showtime free for 3 months. They said the $100 Credit is standard if the technician doesn't show up. Try calling them and see what you can get.

ESPNU is up on Time Warner in Ashland!!

ch125

just in time for the Miami/Marshall game...

well, looks like wsaz is showing the telethon all day over the final round of golf...

you would think they could at least show golf on the hd feed...

Call (304) 523-5333 and ask for the control room. Ask them to please flip the switch.

Then send an e-mail to: Aaron.Withrow@wsaz.com explaining the issue.

I was getting ready to post the same thing about the Golf today. Maybe if enough of us call we can get it on the HD feed.

I called and they said no one gave them authorization to due that but maybe the next time they will be informed. Like anyone is watching the telethon on the HD Feed.

WTF? Why isn't the Miami v Oklahoma game in HD.

WTF? Why isn't the Miami v Oklahoma game in HD.

Oh sure, they get the HD feed back up for Nascar. :mad:

Ok, so how many of you have been following the D* HD Programming thread to see when the new birds will light? Hopefully in the next few days there will be much more HD content from which to choose.

Ok, so how many of you have been following the D* HD Programming thread to see when the new birds will light? Hopefully in the next few days there will be much more HD content from which to choose.


:D:D

Yep! Been following on a daily basis....

It would sound as though some channels by this weekend and continuing through the rest of this year. I am just not sure how many? But enough to get us started.

But everything is coming up roses;)

The word is Sept 19......just in time for most of the new fall lineup. However, the CEO mentioned this summer it may roll out for some boring "look at me" movie awards ceremony or something this Sunday Night :rolleyes: I'll be interested to see if they fire up anymore local hd content this fall. GO EEERS!!!!!!

I would guess this doesn't bode well for Charleston-Huntington locals getting on DirecTV anytime soon....


http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=98837

If you are a currnet Directv customer and you want some additional HD content...ie Starz. You better order in your package today...as it will be grandfathered into your HD package at 9.99. From what I read your current channels you receive in SD you will get in HD if it is broadcasted in HD. You may want to upgrade your packages now if their is a channel you currently dont get but want when it rolls out next week and the upcoming weeks.

From what I read if you are not a Directv HD customer and you jump on the bandwagon after the switch is flipped...you may have to buck up...

We probaly all will by this time next year I imagine.

As far as locals are concerened...it will all depend on where we are on the list. We may fire up this fall or have to wait for Directv 11 to launch...anyone have any info on this?

GO EEERS
GO STEELERS

I would guess this doesn't bode well for Charleston-Huntington locals getting on DirecTV anytime soon....


http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=98837

I didn't read through all the pages on dbstalk, but from the first page, it appears the Spotbeam problem will affect the North West, which we aren't. If that's the case, then our area should be ok (given they were planning on putting Charleston on D10.....but they may be waiting for D11 next year)

If you are a currnet Directv customer and you want some additional HD content...ie Starz. You better order in your package today...as it will be grandfathered into your HD package at 9.99. From what I read your current channels you receive in SD you will get in HD if it is broadcasted in HD. You may want to upgrade your packages now if their is a channel you currently dont get but want when it rolls out next week and the upcoming weeks.

From what I read if you are not a Directv HD customer and you jump on the bandwagon after the switch is flipped...you may have to buck up...

We probaly all will by this time next year I imagine.

As far as locals are concerened...it will all depend on where we are on the list. We may fire up this fall or have to wait for Directv 11 to launch...anyone have any info on this?

GO EEERS
GO STEELERS

Not sure I read your comment correctly, but Starz and other premium packages will not be included in the $9.99 package. The $9.99 package will include all the HD channels that have an equivalent SD channel (such as ESPN, ESPN2, etc.). The $4.99 HD Extra Package will include those extra channels that do not have an SD Equivalent, as it costs them more money to obtain delivery rights (i.e. HDNet, HDNet Movies, etc.). If you want Starz, Showtime, HBO, etc., you have to sign up for one of those movie packages. If you are, you will receive the HD equivalent to those movie channels. But, you won't get Starz, HBO, Show in HD just because you have the $9.99 HD package. Per DirecTV, those that have the HD package now will receive the $9.99 and $4.99 package through the end of the year for the $9.99 price. After that, if you want HDNet, etc., you'll have to pay the extra $4.99 on top of you $9.99. Now, or later, you'll have to pay the $15 or $20 fee for the premiere movies to get those in HD.....just like you do now for SD.

As Herdfan stated in the HD Programming thread, the rumor is the spot beam issue is in the NW. If that's the case, it won't affect us, but could be good for us. If there are markets in the NW areas above Charleston, that cannot be utilized until D11 is launched (given it's a problem that can't be corrected), it's possible this 'issue' could be good for us. I don't mean to sound cruel, but since WV is always last to get about everything, it would be nice to see something bump us up a little sooner, yet I hate to hear this for the NW areas.

I'm moving and thinking of buying a solid outdoor antenna. I live in Kanawha City. Any suggestions?

Last Saturday, DirecTV replaced my old RCA HD box with the new H-20. Unfortunately, the tuner on the new box does not pick up the PBS digital signal out of Huntington (signal strength only in 30s). Previously channels 33-1, 33-2,and 33-3 came in fine with the old tuner.

My off-air setup has not changed (DB-4 antenna and distribution amplifier), with one exception. The new box apparently does not permit the use of a diplexer -- so my off-air signal is no longer combined with the satellite signal as it comes into the house. DirecTV put a new jack in the wall and ran the off-air signal into the house separately. This shouldn't affect the off-air signal strength, should it?

How much of a difference would it make to put a proper pre-amplifier (like a Channel Master 7775) on my antenna, versus the indoor distribution amplifier that I have now? Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated.

Well here we are, Sept 19, and no new HD.....
Now I know what my poor farm dogs feel like. Waiting patiently for me to walk out that door every morning to dole out the morsels of dog food.

Do any of you guys know if there's any company in this area that does satellite setups? More specifically, my signals for 3-1 and 13-1 both disappeared a few weeks ago. I've been up on the roof a couple of times, but I can't get any signal at all, no matter where I position the antenna. I had been just barely receiving both--signals in the high 60s/low 70s--but it was enough as long as it wasn't storming.

However, I'm out of ideas and with the new season starting next week, I'm getting a little desperate. Suddenlink actually has a pretty decent deal right now, but I'm locked into my DirecTV contract through December. So I'm hoping there's some company in the Charleston/Huntington area that can come out and take a look at my setup. Any suggestions?

Those with the equipment and dish to handle the new D* HD channels on D-10.

Channel 498 is a test channel from D10 with a slide showing that you are ready go see all the new HD as it goes live. However, many are not seeing the slide, but Gray or Black screens. My signal strength on 103(b) is 96 - 100, so I'm good there. I am not receiving a "Searching for Signal", so my alignment is OK. The old 499 test channel showed that my BBCs were functioning...so why can some see the 498, and others can't? Wonder if it's a location issue.

Can someone else in the Charleston area with equipment tune to 498 and post back on your findings?

Thanks,

but I'm locked into my DirecTV contract through December.

The commitments are prorated at approximately $12.50 per month. So worst case, it should cost you $37.50 to get out early. OTOH, D* is getting ready to launch a ton of new HD so I don't know if I would be ready to make the switch, but I understand the need for locals in HD.

Yes Tony, I am receiving 498 saying something about the HD Channels. All 103(b) transponders reporting back between 90 and 100.

Yes Tony, I am receiving 498 saying something about the HD Channels. All 103(b) transponders reporting back between 90 and 100.

Thanks. Per Earl at dbstalk, the problem is unknown right now. There is no rhyme or reason at this time why some are receiving, and some aren't. Many folks that have multiple receivers can view 498 on some of them, but not on others.

The commitments are prorated at approximately $12.50 per month. So worst case, it should cost you $37.50 to get out early. OTOH, D* is getting ready to launch a ton of new HD so I don't know if I would be ready to make the switch, but I understand the need for locals in HD.

Thanks for the info...I just assumed I would get charged a full cancellation fee. Most of the stuff my wife and I watch is on the networks, not to mention most of the NFL games. I was checking the list of HD channels D* is getting ready to add, and nothing really jumps out at me. If only they could give a definite date for adding the Charleston HD locals, I might be able to wait it out. As it stands, it looks like Suddenlink for me...since I'd be switching from satellite, they're offering the complete HD package and all channels for $67/month for one year. That doesn't sound so bad to me, given that it's a good deal cheaper than my current D* bill, without the headaches of wondering if my antenna was able to pickup 3.1 or 13.1.

Tony...I dont get anything either...

Look at 480 and 481 they both should say BBC confirmed working. I think...if you ge that....you should be ok. Let me know if I'm wrong.

Tony...I dont get anything either...

Look at 480 and 481 they both should say BBC confirmed working. I think...if you ge that....you should be ok. Let me know if I'm wrong.

This entire thing is quirky if you ask me. When I got home, I confirmed my wife's check that we didn't get a picture on 498. However, I tried what a poster on dbstalk stated "Tune to 498, then hit channel up, then down, if you don't get it, hit channel down, then up". When I did that, I got the slide. However, today, I can't get the slide, even by doing the trick.

I do get the confirmation that my B-band converters are working on both 480 and 481. I tried herdfan's suggestion of going 480 then 481 and then 498 as that worked for him. It seems to have worked for some, but not for me. I just find it odd that it worked for me Friday night, but not since. Hopefully with the confirmation on 480 and 481, we should be good to go.

I get nothing......The tricks dont work for me at all.

Fingers Crossed!:confused:

I get nothing......The tricks dont work for me at all.

Fingers Crossed!:confused:

498 no longer works for me either. DBSTALK announced two test channels Saturday morning for 3 hours. 9300 and 9301. Through Earl at DBStalk, D* wanted to know who could see them and also see 498, who could see them, but not see 498, etc. Sounds like there is some sort of issue since D* was providing the test channels to get data from dbs talk. I read reports of folks that could not receive the slide on 498, were able to view 9300 and 9301, and shortly after that, they were able to see the slide and music on 498.

I checked mine last night, and 480 and 481 indicated the converter was functioning. If I recall correctly, 498 just had a message that stated I was ready to start getting the new HD channels.

If I recall correctly, 498 just had a message that stated I was ready to start getting the new HD channels.
You are correct. However, some who are receiving 480/1, can't receive 498. I have mixed results. I have 3 HR's connect either by WB616 or SWM5 (I am a beta tester).

One HR(A) via the SWM5 gets 498every time. The other HR(B) connected to the SWM5 needs one of the "tricks" to pull in 498. The last HR(C) connected using BBC's, won't pull in 498. But when I put (A) in (C)'s location using the BBC's it works, and (A) works using the SWM5.

This entire HD launch might turn out to be a huge PR/CS nightmare for D* as there are failure rates of 15-25% when it come to 498.

This entire HD launch might turn out to be a huge PR/CS nightmare for D* as there are failure rates of 15-25% when it come to 498.Maybe not: Some people have found out that "changing" their programming package (even if they don't actually change the package level) gets rid of that problem. This occurs whether it's done online or over the phone. So perhaps D* could simply "refresh" everybody's HD programming package automatically, without notifying customers, and voila...

From Earl at DBS Talk comes the following info on DirecTV.

Channels 9300 and 9301 are now broadcasting in HD. I just tuned to those channels and all is ok with my reception.

Good Luck to the rest of you.......

They are collecting needed data. Go to this thread..... http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=100599

9300, 9301, and 498 all work now....The new rumor is now this WED. Take it for what it is worth.:rolleyes:

9300, 9301, and 498 all work now....The new rumor is now this WED. Take it for what it is worth.:rolleyes:

Same here. Since the second opening of channels 9300 and 9301, I now receive all channels.

Maybe not: Some people have found out that "changing" their programming package (even if they don't actually change the package level) gets rid of that problem. This occurs whether it's done online or over the phone. So perhaps D* could simply "refresh" everybody's HD programming package automatically, without notifying customers, and voila...

Not exactly. Some commented that worked for them, but did not work for others. I did not do that, and am now receiving all channels. Before today, I could not receive the Congrats Slide on channel 498.

If you folks could, go register your info here per Earl at dbs talk. It's MUCH easier than the dbs talk method.

www.iamanedgecutter.com

Some new D* HD channels are now live! Tune to channel 77 for program guide.

This article from Washington Post regarding Smithsonian HD channel indicates that the new channel will be a part of a special $4.99 tier, in addition to regular HD programming:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/23/AR2007092301104.html

We are live....

TBSHD...
Big Ten HD
NFL HD
Starz, Kids, edge, comedy, west
CNN
Animal
A&E
Weather
Max
Sci
TLC
Discovery
History
Smithsonian
HBO
Sho
Sho too
TMC
Espn
Espn2
UHD
TNT
HD Theater
HD net movies
HD net

All up in full glory...not to mention the additions coming in OCT...:)

D can now call themselves the HD leader.

Yes, footbalfreak, and the quality in my opinion is great. Been waiting on this for some time, and more to come in October and the remainder of the year.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Oh, and the quality is better on the new additions of the sister channel, such as ESPNHD on channel 73, as compared to ESPNHD on the new addition channel 206 HD.

Oh, and the quality is better on the new additions of the sister channel, such as ESPNHD on channel 73, as compared to ESPNHD on the new addition channel 206 HD.


As of yesterday, it wasn't confirmed that 206 was MPEG-4, but just the MPEG-2 channel mirrored 73 channel. Do you know for sure that 206 is MPEG 4? I looked at both channels and didn't see a difference. If 206 is actually the MPEG-4, then I will no longer say anything about HD Lite because I couldn't tell a difference. BUT, I was watching Sports Center which is close ups. I've been reading so much AVS and dbs talk over the last week, I really don't feel like going through more pages to see if it's been confirmed that 206, 209, etc. is MPEG-4 or still MPEG-2, just mirrored from the 70s.

If there is a difference, I'll definitely be able to tell on tomorrow night's WVU game on 72 and 209. Distant Shots are the measurable differences to my eyes.

Oh, and the quality is better on the new additions of the sister channel, such as ESPNHD on channel 73, as compared to ESPNHD on the new addition channel 206 HD.

The sticky thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=914047

Still lists 206/73 as MPEG-2 and the only MPEG-4 are the new 21 channels. That would make sense to why I've seen no difference between channel 73 and 206 in terms of PQ. Would still love to know if that information is accurate.

Looks like all the channels that end in HD (206) are on the new sat, but looks as though it's still MPEG-2 and not MPEG-4.
Ok...first wave of channels up. now the important thing......CHARLESTON/HUNTINGTON LOCALS IN HD!!!! Heheheheheh.

Is anyone else seeing a guide issue with WSAZ? Via the DirecTV guide data, it is listing 3-1 as being WSAZ-DT2 with corresponding guide data. But the actual programming is correct.

I was going to send Aaron an email, but when I went to look at Zap2It, it has it listed correctly. So it seems to be a D* issue.

herdfan

I am not having this problem with my HR20. Are you using the HR20 or the H20?

3-1 is listed as WSAZ-DT and 3-2 is listed as WSAZ-DT2 on my system.

Anyone having trouble with WCHS/DT or anyone know if they are having transmitter issues? I haven't been able to get it for at least a week. Before that I was getting all four main locals in DT just fine. I can get WVAH/DT, even.

As of yesterday, it wasn't confirmed that 206 was MPEG-4, but just the MPEG-2 channel mirrored 73 channel. Do you know for sure that 206 is MPEG 4? I looked at both channels and didn't see a difference. If 206 is actually the MPEG-4, then I will no longer say anything about HD Lite because I couldn't tell a difference. BUT, I was watching Sports Center which is close ups. I've been reading so much AVS and dbs talk over the last week, I really don't feel like going through more pages to see if it's been confirmed that 206, 209, etc. is MPEG-4 or still MPEG-2, just mirrored from the 70s.

If there is a difference, I'll definitely be able to tell on tomorrow night's WVU game on 72 and 209. Distant Shots are the measurable differences to my eyes.

Yeah, on second glance, I really don't see that much difference at all....

I am not having this problem with my HR20. Are you using the HR20 or the H20?

3-1 is listed as WSAZ-DT and 3-2 is listed as WSAZ-DT2 on my system.

It is the strangest thing. One one HR20, I get the listings reversed, on the other, they are correct. I can't call D* about it because I am running CE versions on both receivers. So I will wait for a NR and see if it fixes itself.

It is the strangest thing. One one HR20, I get the listings reversed, on the other, they are correct. I can't call D* about it because I am running CE versions on both receivers. So I will wait for a NR and see if it fixes itself.

I didn't notice that problem yesterday, but I wasn't looking to hard. I'll check it out tonight.

Anyone having trouble with WCHS/DT or anyone know if they are having transmitter issues? I haven't been able to get it for at least a week. Before that I was getting all four main locals in DT just fine. I can get WVAH/DT, even.

WCHS has been coming in fine for me with my Philips Indoor Antenna. Signal Strength around 70%. I haven't noticed it down at all.

Is anyone else seeing a guide issue with WSAZ? Via the DirecTV guide data, it is listing 3-1 as being WSAZ-DT2 with corresponding guide data. But the actual programming is correct.

Update: I went an reran Antenna Setup and the issue disappeared. Very strange.:confused:

Has anyone had problems with Suddenlink recently?

Since Tuesday of last week, mostly durring primetime I lose all my HD and digital channels and internet and all the other channels are snowy. It goes in and out. It did it Tuesday, Wednesday, Satureday and completely out and missed the last 15 min of SNL with Lebron James, and it happened today. My recordings of Heroes and Chuck have blank spots in them and couldn't watch the Patriots Bengals game in HD until late second quarter.

:)I just picked up the 32" Vizio HDTV from circuit city for 599.00 for my bedroom and its an amazing HDTV for the price, I am waiting for my HD receiver from Direct which shipped yesterday but with my 12.95 Rabbit ears from Radioshack here on the west side I can get NBC, WCHS, and Fox in glorious HD ...I am really impressed with my Vizio.....

Update: I went an reran Antenna Setup and the issue disappeared. Very strange.:confused:

That is strange.

Yesterday evening, I thought we received a new channel in the 70s because I didn't recognize the name. I can't remember, but started with an H. Anyway, it was just the normal Discovery HD channel, but it through me because the name of the channel changed. I'll check again today to see if it is back to Discovery HD.

That is strange.

Yesterday evening, I thought we received a new channel in the 70s because I didn't recognize the name. I can't remember, but started with an H. Anyway, it was just the normal Discovery HD channel, but it through me because the name of the channel changed. I'll check again today to see if it is back to Discovery HD.

it has been renamed HD Theater

(i'm on TW cable)

Has anyone had problems with Suddenlink recently?

Since Tuesday of last week, mostly durring primetime I lose all my HD and digital channels and internet and all the other channels are snowy. It goes in and out. It did it Tuesday, Wednesday, Satureday and completely out and missed the last 15 min of SNL with Lebron James, and it happened today. My recordings of Heroes and Chuck have blank spots in them and couldn't watch the Patriots Bengals game in HD until late second quarter.

Your problems may be isolated to either your house or your area, and I would call customer service. I live on the West Side of Charleston, and watched the exact same shows that you mentioned in HD with no problems at all.

it has been renamed HD Theater

(i'm on TW cable)

Thanks. That makes sense now.

For anyone in the Huntington WV area with Comcast

I got to test out a HD Homerun Digital tuner today. Found 23 unencrypted Digital channels, and thier music tier. All the HD locals were there along with a few other HD Channels Like TNT HD and Discovery HD

Time Warner in Ashland just added TBS in HD.

We now have (in HD):
HBO
Showtime
Starz
Cinemax
ESPN2
HDNET
HDNET MOVIES
ESPN
UNIVERSAL
MOJO
TBS
HD THEATER (DISCOVERY)
TNT
NBC
ABC
FOX

looks like HBO West HD, Cinemax West HD, and the Big Ten network are also in the works.

...still would like to know what the problem is with CBS (WOWK).

To anyone.......

Wanted to ask if anyone is receiving the National HD Channels, ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX from DirecTV(Broadcast from New York and Los Angeles).

I just realized that I may have been able to receive these channels pending a waiver. I talked to DirecTV and they are sending me the waiver forms for submission, which will take awhile. I have OTA to receive the local HD Channels, but have trouble receiving Channel 3. There has been some programming that I could have been enjoying in HD from NBC, if I had only known this. Of course this is assuming the waiver is approved.

If I had realized this, I would have done it long ago.....hmmm!

Still waiting for HD Locals from DirecTV, but hard to tell when they will be broadcast.

I live in rural Cabell and applied for an HD waiver in 2004 I believe. It is up to you local broadcasters. WCHS/ WVAH approved it but WOWK and WSAZ did not. I get ABC and FOX over the dish but get WSAZ and WOWK OTA....as long as the weather is fair. Hang in there.....we will have local HD's in time on Directv. I figure definitely by this time next year but maybe sooner.

I live in rural Cabell and applied for an HD waiver in 2004 I believe. It is up to you local broadcasters. WCHS/ WVAH approved it but WOWK and WSAZ did not. I get ABC and FOX over the dish but get WSAZ and WOWK OTA....as long as the weather is fair. Hang in there.....we will have local HD's in time on Directv. I figure definitely by this time next year but maybe sooner.

Yeah, thanks for the reply.... The CSR informed me that it would take 45 days, and by the time I get the forms, etc. it would take even longer, and like you said, they probably wouldn't approve it anyway. Well, just anxious to get DirecTV locals in HD.... I will probably keep my OTA for locals. I currently have the CM4228 antenna, and it seems to me that I received a better signal from WSAZ on the Terk 32 antenna. I hate to spend more money on another Terk 32 and then find out that my memory has failed me, and it does no better than the CM 4228. I have even considered the DB 8.

and it does no better than the CM 4228.
Do you have an amp on the 4228? Here in Teays Valley I need an amp to pull in consistent signal from WSAZ and WOWK.

Yes, I have an indoor channel master amp(I believe it is the 4221). I even put the money out for a more expensive pole mounted amp(CM 7777), and it did no better. It is now in a box in my basement......:)

I have my antenna mounted on a 30 foot mast, and live near the top of a hill. I do have some tree obstruction in-line with my antenna signal.

It would seem as though you living in the Teays Valley area, that you would have no trouble at all. I live a little north and east of Charleston.

I'm just not sure whether I want to invest in trying another antenna or not, and have it sitting around in my garage.......

To anyone.......

Wanted to ask if anyone is receiving the National HD Channels, ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX from DirecTV(Broadcast from New York and Los Angeles).

I just realized that I may have been able to receive these channels pending a waiver. I talked to DirecTV and they are sending me the waiver forms for submission, which will take awhile. I have OTA to receive the local HD Channels, but have trouble receiving Channel 3. There has been some programming that I could have been enjoying in HD from NBC, if I had only known this. Of course this is assuming the waiver is approved.

If I had realized this, I would have done it long ago.....hmmm!

Still waiting for HD Locals from DirecTV, but hard to tell when they will be broadcast.

I 'HAD' them. They charge you $2.25 for each distant channel. I received all of them as I had an original waiver in 2002 or so. When the new rules were passed down, it made it harder to obtain the waivers. I believe all of them are being denied the first time through. I canceled mine because I no longer wanted to pay $9 a month. However, I tried to have 13 added back a few weeks ago, and WOWK denied me this time around. Approved me in 2002, denied me in 2007. It didn't take 45 days to receive the card in the mail either. It took about 15 days. Your best bet is to call EACH station and talk to the Engineering Manager to determine if they'll give you a waiver. Plead your case. Tell WSAZ that you have an antenna and can pull in every station but their's. I had to do that the first go around as they all denied me at first in 2002, but I called each and they approved it in the computer that day.

I 'HAD' them. They charge you $2.25 for each distant channel. I received all of them as I had an original waiver in 2002 or so. When the new rules were passed down, it made it harder to obtain the waivers. I believe all of them are being denied the first time through. I canceled mine because I no longer wanted to pay $9 a month. However, I tried to have 13 added back a few weeks ago, and WOWK denied me this time around. Approved me in 2002, denied me in 2007. It didn't take 45 days to receive the card in the mail either. It took about 15 days. Your best bet is to call EACH station and talk to the Engineering Manager to determine if they'll give you a waiver. Plead your case. Tell WSAZ that you have an antenna and can pull in every station but their's. I had to do that the first go around as they all denied me at first in 2002, but I called each and they approved it in the computer that day.

Oops! Didn't realize they were going to charge for those. The price doesn't sound to bad for those individually. Well, I am pondering the situation.

If I can just be patient with DirecTV locals. I am right on the edge with WSAZ, that is, sometimes it comes in, and sometimes it doesn't. That is why I am again considering a different OTA antenna. I can receive the other locals with no problem, and I would like the backup in case something would go out such as the occasional rain fade and such. However I have only had a handful of problems with rain fade.

My new 5LNB and HR20 (HD DVR) for D* was installed last week. The first time It was scheduled, the tech said his work order was incorrect and couldn't do anything until I rescheduled. Because of that headache, I was able to get an additional $100 Credit to my account (That was after talking them into the HR20 for only the cost of Shipping and handling, $10 credit each month for 6 months and Showtime free for 3 months).

I'm just curious, how did you get them to agree to that? I've had a horrid time of just getting them to come and install the new dish so I can receive the new HD channels. Me and my wife both talked to 3 different people, all of them were very confused on any part of the procedure, completely having no idea even why we was calling, even to the point that one lady didn't even believe we was who we said we were (Where was Dennis Green when you needed him). She was bilingual, and wouldn't stop speaking spanish also, even when we said NO HABLO ESPANOL?!!?! This makes the 3rd day we will have we have to sit around waiting on an installer who may or may not have a correct work order this time. I guess my question should be, who did you call (number?, they got so many customer service numbers for everything) and complain to. The second visit by an installer just happened the last week of August, only now do we have the time to deal with another installer (we got busy lives). They say it happened too long ago for us to get any reprisals for our problems with them and their contracted installers. I know tonybradley had some success, but if any of you others has, I would appreciate your stories and "loading of my lips" and who to call to get a little more than another day waiting on another installer. Don't get me wrong, those guys do good jobs, but if they aren't told they need to install a satellite at a job, they won't have it with them when they get there. All I even asked for for our troubles was a HR-20 to replace the H-20 of mine that died 3 weeks ago. They then tried to charge me $79 dollars for the satellite upgrade that is FREE...ok I'm rambling, but I didn't even include every thing they tried to get in our wallets...

Time Warner in Ashland just added TBS in HD.

We now have (in HD):
HBO
Showtime
Starz
Cinemax
ESPN2
HDNET
HDNET MOVIES
ESPN
UNIVERSAL
MOJO
TBS
HD THEATER (DISCOVERY)
TNT
NBC
ABC
FOX

looks like HBO West HD, Cinemax West HD, and the Big Ten network are also in the works.

...still would like to know what the problem is with CBS (WOWK).

I sent an email to John Fawcett, the station manager at WOWK. He said they're working on deal with Time Warner right now. Hopefully it will be soon. My question you, do you have inside info on the Big Ten Network being "in the works"? An article in the Columbus Dispatch on Tuesday quoted a BTN spokesman saying that both sides were still "very far apart".

Josh
Portsmouth, OH

I sent an email to John Fawcett, the station manager at WOWK. He said they're working on deal with Time Warner right now. Hopefully it will be soon. My question you, do you have inside info on the Big Ten Network being "in the works"? An article in the Columbus Dispatch on Tuesday quoted a BTN spokesman saying that both sides were still "very far apart".

Josh
Portsmouth, OH

nothing "inside", i just checked their website and they have some info about it. you can send them a note requesting they add BTN as well.