I'm just curious, how did you get them to agree to that? I've had a horrid time of just getting them to come and install the new dish so I can receive the new HD channels. Me and my wife both talked to 3 different people, all of them were very confused on any part of the procedure, completely having no idea even why we was calling, even to the point that one lady didn't even believe we was who we said we were (Where was Dennis Green when you needed him). She was bilingual, and wouldn't stop speaking spanish also, even when we said NO HABLO ESPANOL?!!?! This makes the 3rd day we will have we have to sit around waiting on an installer who may or may not have a correct work order this time. I guess my question should be, who did you call (number?, they got so many customer service numbers for everything) and complain to. The second visit by an installer just happened the last week of August, only now do we have the time to deal with another installer (we got busy lives). They say it happened too long ago for us to get any reprisals for our problems with them and their contracted installers. I know tonybradley had some success, but if any of you others has, I would appreciate your stories and "loading of my lips" and who to call to get a little more than another day waiting on another installer. Don't get me wrong, those guys do good jobs, but if they aren't told they need to install a satellite at a job, they won't have it with them when they get there. All I even asked for for our troubles was a HR-20 to replace the H-20 of mine that died 3 weeks ago. They then tried to charge me $79 dollars for the satellite upgrade that is FREE...ok I'm rambling, but I didn't even include every thing they tried to get in our wallets...


The sad part is, it all depends on which Customer Rep you get, and we have no control over that. I called the normal 1-800-DIRECTV. I asked for the HR20 to be free. They would NOT budge. I told the CR that my goal was to obatin HD service at the cheapest up front cost that I could, and it didn't matter which provider I went with. I told her it made no sense for me to pay $199 for a LEASED receiver. I asked her if I could speak to their "RETENTION DEPARTMENT" as I was considering dropping DirecTV. When I talked to the Retention Department, I said the same thing regarding the Lease. i wasn't going to pay that much money for a Lease (something I don't own) and agree to a 2 year commitment. He first said he wouldn't do it. I then said "Ok, I believe I'd like to cancel my service as I will go with Cable or Dish". He QUICKLY said "I can give you a Refurbished Unit for S&H ($20)". I took it. It's a lease, so if it tears up, they send a new one anyway...so big deal if it's refurbed. BUT, when the techs came, they had 4 HR 20s in their van. They grabbed the first one and set up. So, if I got a refurbed unit, all the units on the Van were refurbed because the Tech didn't look at the box...just grabbed one.

Oops! Didn't realize they were going to charge for those. The price doesn't sound to bad for those individually. Well, I am pondering the situation.

If I can just be patient with DirecTV locals. I am right on the edge with WSAZ, that is, sometimes it comes in, and sometimes it doesn't. That is why I am again considering a different OTA antenna. I can receive the other locals with no problem, and I would like the backup in case something would go out such as the occasional rain fade and such. However I have only had a handful of problems with rain fade.


I've been having a lot of dropouts the last few days with my WSAZ. I don't like this 'not knowing' stuff. I don't want to invest in a better antenna, run new cable, take the time and effort, when our Locals on D* 'MAY' be around the corner. I'd love it if they'd announce who they are adding and a general time frame. 4th Quarter of 2007, 2nd Quarter of 2008, etc. Right now, I don't know if D* will have our locals by the end of this year, or not until the end of next year. That's why I'm holding tight, and fighting with signals from an indoor antenna for now. I just passed along a $100 Channel Master Antenna I purchased from Lowes a couple years ago to my Father In Law. He has it in his basement and plans to sell it at a yard sell. If anyone wants it, I will sell it for a very cheap price. I have the 30' Telescoping mast as well. I just didn't feel like putting it up on my house. The 5LNB dish already looks like Doppler Radar on top of my house.

The sad part is, it all depends on which Customer Rep you get, and we have no control over that. I called the normal 1-800-DIRECTV. I asked for the HR20 to be free. They would NOT budge. I told the CR that my goal was to obatin HD service at the cheapest up front cost that I could, and it didn't matter which provider I went with. I told her it made no sense for me to pay $199 for a LEASED receiver. I asked her if I could speak to their "RETENTION DEPARTMENT" as I was considering dropping DirecTV. When I talked to the Retention Department, I said the same thing regarding the Lease. i wasn't going to pay that much money for a Lease (something I don't own) and agree to a 2 year commitment. He first said he wouldn't do it. I then said "Ok, I believe I'd like to cancel my service as I will go with Cable or Dish". He QUICKLY said "I can give you a Refurbished Unit for S&H ($20)". I took it. It's a lease, so if it tears up, they send a new one anyway...so big deal if it's refurbed. BUT, when the techs came, they had 4 HR 20s in their van. They grabbed the first one and set up. So, if I got a refurbed unit, all the units on the Van were refurbed because the Tech didn't look at the box...just grabbed one.

Well, I had to call back cause a mysterious charge appeared on my bill with D*. This call was at least more productive. A charge of 73.09 appeared on my bill associated with the installtion of my new 5 LNB dish. I called and complained to them (again), telling them this is a free upgrade. She saw they also added (on their own let me say), S&H plus S&H on the new external antenna...wha??? It's so I can get locals, but those locals won't be in HD? I told her I didn't order nor ask for the antenna cause it's a waste of time where I live plus I already get locals with them (but not HD). I've spent too many Saturdays climbing up and down a ladder trying to get them to come in with an antenna of my own. She refunded all charges, but is still sending me this antenna for locals that she says aren't available in my area (gawd, I love customer service *boggle*). Hey, if the installer wants to spend 8 hours up on the roof trying to get me some HD locals OTA...I'm all for it! I'm only 18 miles and 22 miles respectively from the digital towers for the stations, maybe their equipment will be better than what I was using (but I doubt it). Before anyone thinks they got my answer for HD OTA, I live against a mountain which just happens to be right in the way of those towers.

Well, I had to call back cause a mysterious charge appeared on my bill with D*. This call was at least more productive. A charge of 73.09 appeared on my bill associated with the installtion of my new 5 LNB dish. I called and complained to them (again), telling them this is a free upgrade. She saw they also added (on their own let me say), S&H plus S&H on the new external antenna...wha??? It's so I can get locals, but those locals won't be in HD? I told her I didn't order nor ask for the antenna cause it's a waste of time where I live plus I already get locals with them (but not HD). I've spent too many Saturdays climbing up and down a ladder trying to get them to come in with an antenna of my own. She refunded all charges, but is still sending me this antenna for locals that she says aren't available in my area (gawd, I love customer service *boggle*). Hey, if the installer wants to spend 8 hours up on the roof trying to get me some HD locals OTA...I'm all for it! I'm only 18 miles and 22 miles respectively from the digital towers for the stations, maybe their equipment will be better than what I was using (but I doubt it). Before anyone thinks they got my answer for HD OTA, I live against a mountain which just happens to be right in the way of those towers.

If you have tried, I doubt they'll get anything. They don't use the best antennas. I think they use the Terk antennas, or used to. What antenna are you using? That large mountain will be difficult to overcome, but you could get lucky with a good antenna and a preamp.

Mods please delete.

Wowk (CBS) is back on Time Warner in HD. However, it is only available with a QAM tuner. It has been on since yesterday. It has not shown-up on the regular channel guide or HD channels using the box.

Channel is 119.X (it is 119.2 on my westinghouse tv in the bedroom and 119.3 on my sony in the living room...)

I purchased a Harmon Kardon AVR-635 7.1 Receiver from a guy at work in hopes to sell it as I already have a 7.1 receiver.

If anyone is interested in purchasing a HK AVR-635 receiver (he paid $1,000 for it a year and a half ago), I'd be willing to sell it for $450. Ping me if anyone is interested. I thought I'd ask around locally before placing on ebay.

If anyone is interested in purchasing a HK AVR-635 receiver (he paid $1,000 for it a year and a half ago), I'd be willing to sell it for $450.
Where were you Saturday? ;) My 635 decided to die as I was reconfiguring my Living Room setup. Replaced it with a Yamaha which seems very nice so far. I was going to get another HK, a 247, but BB was sold out and I couldn't wait. I would take the Yamaha back, but it is way too much work to take the plasma back off the wall and remove the woodwork required to change it out.

I prefer Denon, but in this location, the IR repeater for the DVR's also relays the basement Denon and it was causing unwanted changes in the volume.

Does anyone know if WOAY in Oak Hill is transmitting HD or just digital SD on channel 50? Also are they running high power yet or still just 500 watts?

I can't get WCHS OTA, D* is still no help there yet, and ABC is the one DNS net they won't let me have.

I thought I might give WOAY a try if they've cranked the power up. It's slightly farther than the CHS tower but I have a MUCH better line of site.

Otherwise I'll be forced to watch the Rutgers-WVU game in SD....

Yes, I have an indoor channel master amp(I believe it is the 4221). I even put the money out for a more expensive pole mounted amp(CM 7777), and it did no better. It is now in a box in my basement......:)

I have my antenna mounted on a 30 foot mast, and live near the top of a hill. I do have some tree obstruction in-line with my antenna signal.

It would seem as though you living in the Teays Valley area, that you would have no trouble at all. I live a little north and east of Charleston.

I'm just not sure whether I want to invest in trying another antenna or not, and have it sitting around in my garage.......

I live in Ridgemont (Hidden Valley in Pinch) and I was picking up all four locals in DT until I recently lost WCHS/DT for some reason. Haven't been able to get it for at least a few weeks, now. Which antenna do you have?

I should probably clarify though, that I cannot pick up any of the four stations with a TV tuner, but I can get them on a PC tuner using BeyondTV.

I live in Ridgemont (Hidden Valley in Pinch) and I was picking up all four locals in DT until I recently lost WCHS/DT for some reason. Haven't been able to get it for at least a few weeks, now. Which antenna do you have?

I should probably clarify though, that I cannot pick up any of the four stations with a TV tuner, but I can get them on a PC tuner using BeyondTV.

I have the UHF Channel Master 4228. Good info at www.solidsignal.com.

I have the UHF Channel Master 4228. Good info at www.solidsignal.com.

IMO, you are too far away on this type of terrain for that antenna. I have a 91XG with a CM3043 dist. amp and a Wineguard AP8275 preamp. I had a CM7778 preamp and a CM3045 dist. amp but they weren't cutting it. From where I'm at in Pinch the towers are only something like 16 degrees apart so with my 25 degree antenna I don't have to move it. I'm on a hill, but there's more hill directly in front of my house in the direction it points. I was getting all four locals in DT until WCHS went away recently for some reason--still trying to work that out.

Does anyone know why Suddenlink has channel 750 and 773 both with ESPN-HD? I hope it is a prelude for ESPN2-HD! I am in the St. Albans area.

Does anyone know why Suddenlink has channel 750 and 773 both with ESPN-HD? I hope it is a prelude for ESPN2-HD! I am in the St. Albans area.

Or hope its some kind of test to see if they can fit more HD channels, I want mor than one. I am hoping for NBC owned channels like USA, Sci-fi, and Universal.

IMO, you are too far away on this type of terrain for that antenna. I have a 91XG with a CM3043 dist. amp and a Wineguard AP8275 preamp. I had a CM7778 preamp and a CM3045 dist. amp but they weren't cutting it. From where I'm at in Pinch the towers are only something like 16 degrees apart so with my 25 degree antenna I don't have to move it. I'm on a hill, but there's more hill directly in front of my house in the direction it points. I was getting all four locals in DT until WCHS went away recently for some reason--still trying to work that out.


Thanks for the input MrWolfin...... I am currently considering different configurations, and I will be checking out your suggestions. I would have responded sooner, but I have a few things going on right now that need attended to.

The towers are only about 10 degrees apart from where I live, which should be no problem. I am trying to keep from putting more money into what I already have unless it will clearly make a difference. That is where I am stuck right now. I hate to start returning things that I don't use, plus the cost of shipping it back. But I must make a decision if I expect to get Channel 3(WSAZ) regularly. I like the having OTA for the locals although I am also looking forward to having our locals in HD through DirecTV.

That is odd about WCHS.....???

That is odd about WCHS.....???

Yeah, I know. I haven't really had time to troubleshoot it. I'm not sure if the tuner needs reconfigured on the server or what. If the antenna has moved any, it's not enough I can tell by looking at it. With as instable as the stations are on DT sometimes, I figured it was easier to wait a couple weeks and see what happens. When I first set up the antenna is was the same way--I could get WVAH but not WCHS which makes no sense because they are on the same tower. The digital broadcasts are on a greater separation than the analog stations, but you'd think I'd be getting SOMETHING from WCHS. I guess I'll wait it out a while longer and see what happens.

Does anyone know why Suddenlink has channel 750 and 773 both with ESPN-HD? I hope it is a prelude for ESPN2-HD! I am in the St. Albans area.

Just talk to Suddenlink and asked about it they said they are testing the system to add more HD channels, but the guy didn't know what channels or how many or when we would be getting any.

To try to explain the sudden loss many have had of WCHS: They might be broadcasting from its old STA tower and power: 2.9 kW from 171 meters above average terrain (AAT) vs. normal power of 475 kW from 514.1 meters AAT. Maybe the main transmitter failed. Or there might be simply a power reduction from the usual antenna to replace something, or something. Cost-cutting?

I have had trouble with WCHS too. I called them and their engineer said they are not having any trouble or changes on their end. They are transmitting the same as always he said. Funny how it seems 8-1 is poor but 11-1 is fine.:confused:

Just talk to Suddenlink and asked about it they said they are testing the system to add more HD channels, but the guy didn't know what channels or how many or when we would be getting any.

That would be great.

I am going to purchase an HDTV (still haven't decided between Samsung plasma and LCD) shortly before Christmas and will probably add Suddenlink HD service to my current Suddenlink service (digital cable & hi-speed).

In preparation of this, I went Suddenlink's website to see what HD channels they currently offer, but their website is basically worthless. So, for those who have Suddenlink HD service, what channels do you get? I would definitely like to have ESPN, ESPN 2, and the local ABC, CBS and NBC. Also, how is the signal quality, better than DirectTV, if you know?

Also, if anyone has a relatively new plasma or LCD (46'' or bigger) and would like to show it off, I would love to see it in action. I live in Putnam County and I am an attorney currently working in Boone County. Please save the lawyer jokes!! ;)

Thanks for any information you may provide!!

Suddenlink HD channels include:

HGTV HD
Food Network HD
National Geographic HD
HDNET
HDNET Movies
A&E HD
ESPN HD
Discovery Home Theater HD
PBS HD
TNT HD
All 4 networks HD feeds are included, and also each Pay Cable network have 1 HD channel depending on which ones you subscribe to.

Unfortunately, Suddenlink does not carry the ESPN2 feed, and also I can't compare the signal quality to Direct TV because I've never seen it. Direct TV has the capability to carry more HD channels at this time, although it does not carry the networks HD feeds locally. From my experience the Suddenlink signal is fantastic, and I almost watch the HD channels exclusively.

Thank you for such a prompt response. Is there any word if they will add ESPN2 any time soon? How much is the HD service to add to your plan? I could not find any pricing information on their useless website either.

Also, what make and model of HDTV do you have? Do you play any PS3, XBOX 360 or Wii on your HDTV? If so, how is the quality? Do you have a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player?

Thanks again for any information!!

WVU FAN!!! ;)

^
No word on ESPN2, but I have heard that Suddenlink is testing its system, and may be adding new channels soon - although no word on what channels. For me, the HD service addition was:

Digital converter $6.95
DVR service $9.99
HD Plus Tier $3.99

Depending on what you already have, it could only be $3.99 more per month. I put the DVR service in there because I had to get that when I upgraded when it was Charter cable. I'm not sure what Suddenlink requires. All cable companies websites are pretty useless for pricing....my suspicion is it because not all customers are charged the same thing for different services and packages.

My TV is a Panasonic PT-50LC14...a 50" Rear Projection LCD. Had it a little over 3 years. At this time, I only play PS2 on that TV....plan on PS3 and maybe a Wii eventually. For PS2, the picture looks great, but there is a slight delay between the PS2 and the screen....I understand it has something to do with the down conversion process. Many HD televisions have the same problem, although some newer ones such as Samsung have "game mode" which attempts to correct the problems. Some games are almost unplayable on that TV, and I have to take the PS2 upstairs and play on the old CRT television.

I currently don't have HD DVD or Blu-Ray....still trying to decide on that one.

IAlso, if anyone has a relatively new plasma or LCD (46'' or bigger) and would like to show it off, I would love to see it in action. I live in Putnam County and I am an attorney currently working in Boone County. Please save the lawyer jokes!! ;)

How about Boone Co. jokes? :D

I have a 55" Hitachi 768p plasma that is a little over a year old. While I love its PQ, I would probably go with LCD next time as the plasma generates a ton of heat. It can raise the temp of the room 3-4 degrees in the summer.

PM me if you want to see it or the new D* HD channels.

You can make all the Boone County jokes you want. I make fun of it myself...I just work there. I'll send you a PM herdfan.

ruthdog23,

I was with Charter, before it became Suddenlink, and have since switched to DirecTV. DirecTV now offers far more HD channels than Suddenlink including ESPN and ESPN2. They are currently and continuing to add more HD channels(over 70 total), and are going to have as many as 100 by year end. If you are in an area that you have a clear view of the southern sky, then most likely, you can get DirecTV. The downside is that they have yet to offer locals channels in HD, but has Charleston earmarked for HD locals in the future. I currently receive HD locals with an outdoor antenna, and with you being in Putnam county, you should be able to receive all four major network locals with a minimal sized uhf antenna, maybe even an indoor one. You can check your distance from your local channels towers by plugging in your zip code at www.antenna.org.

Also, I have two Panasonic plasma's(a 50" and a 42"), and I think the picture quality is great. You can look at them at circuit city, but you may prefer buying it over the internet. You most likely can save a substantial amount of money. I ordered my 42 inch plasma over the internet, and had no problem at all.

ruthdog23,

Also do not forget the resolution of the TV. My 50" has a better picture than the 42", because the 50" has a better resolution. I would try to purchase one of the newer 1080p sets if I were to buy one today.

I'm stuck deciding between the Samsung 5084 Plasma vs. Samsung 4671 LCD. Both are 1080P. Anyone with any opinions? I will be mainly watching ESPN HD, HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies and playing XBOX 360.

You might try posing the question in this forum......

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=9

I'm stuck deciding between the Samsung 5084 Plasma vs. Samsung 4671 LCD. Both are 1080P. Anyone with any opinions? I will be mainly watching ESPN HD, HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies and playing XBOX 360.

Think about the light situation. I have a Panasonic plasma and you can get a lot of light reflection off the screen. Mine is in a "man cave" (basement) so it's not a problem for me but I can see where it might be if you get a lot of natural light shining right on the screen.

Herdfan is right about the heat. I got the plasma primarily because there was a price advantage over LCD at the time I purchased it. I plan on buying an HDTV for the bedroom sometime next year and I will probably go with LCD.

btw.. I live in Madison, but work in Charleston. I was born in McDowell county so I'm one of the few people that can move to Boone County and say it was a step up :)

Think about the light situation. I have a Panasonic plasma and you can get a lot of light reflection off the screen. Mine is in a "man cave" (basement) so it's not a problem for me but I can see where it might be if you get a lot of natural light shining right on the screen.

Herdfan is right about the heat. I got the plasma primarily because there was a price advantage over LCD at the time I purchased it. I plan on buying an HDTV for the bedroom sometime next year and I will probably go with LCD.

btw.. I live in Madison, but work in Charleston. I was born in McDowell county so I'm one of the few people that can move to Boone County and say it was a step up :)

Panasonic now has both 768p and 1080p plasmas with anti-refective screens (like LCDs) these models have model numbers that end with PX77 (768p sets) and PZ77 (1080p sets). Overall the Panasonic plasmas produce a better picture (better blacks and better contrast ratio) than any of the LCDs.

Now we have 750 ESPNHD and 751 WOWKD as duplicate stations.

Has anyone tried using their TV's Digital Tuner? My tv has WTAP Digital station (Parkersburg's NBCHD) Parkersburg's Fox HD channel is also there. I don't know the Channel number because my TV turns itself off when you search for digital channels because a blue screen is in the background and the TV turns off after around 3 minutes of the blue screen.

So, I just checked my signal strength for WSAZ, WCHS, WOWK, and WVAH.

I got 100% on both WCHS and WVAH.

I had 55% to 65% on WOWK.

and I had between 0% to 3% on WSAZ. Are not WOWK and WSAZ on the same tower?

I have two tv's with two different DirecTV H20 receivers on each.

Any one have an explantion for this?

Are not WOWK and WSAZ on the same tower?
They are in the same general location, but not on the same tower.

I have good signal on WSAZ right now.

Ok, but from antenna.org, they are listed as the same exact distance and the same exact compass heading.....?

WVAH and WCHS are on the same physical tower. WOWK and WSAZ are of different towers slightly less than 1/2 mile apart near the corner of Barker's Ridge Rd. and Hanna Rd. about 5 miles N of Cabell Midland HS. The reason antennaweb shows them the same distance is because they are N/S of each other and could be within a tenth mile of the same distance from you in Charleston.

Put Milton, WV (25541) in antennaweb.org and you will get slightly different headings and distances. WPBY (PBS) is about 3/4 of a mile SSE of the other two.

[/QUOTE]Put Milton, WV (25541) in antennaweb.org and you will get slightly different headings and distances. WPBY (PBS) is about 3/4 of a mile SSE of the other two.[/QUOTE]

It just seems very odd to me that ometimes I receive WSAZ, and have signal strengths of 50% to 60%. And now I receive it a 0% and 3%. And later it could be back up in the 50% to 60% range. It puzzles me as to whether a pole mounted amplifier would do me any good when it is at its lowest point. I do have an indoor amp now... hmmmm! Don't know?

At any rate, I ordered a channel master 7777 UHF pole mounted amplifier to see if it will help.

I haven't watched this show in years, but when I think about it, I turn it over to 3-1 to see if WSAZ will ever show this in HD, and they do not. It's listed as HD and I believe the show went HD last year. Anyone know why WSAZ doesn't air this in HD? Are they not airing the National Broadcast, but a taped version from a different time, and they don't have the ability to record them in HD??

Tony,
Wsaz does not have the ability to record Wheel and Jeopardy in HD. The Syndicators do not offer a non HD branded feed.
I checked the listens on the web page and it is not listed as HD..

I checked the listens on the web page and it is not listed as HD..
It sure is listed as HD on my DirecTV guide for WSAZDT. What web page? Zap2it.com also lists them as HD for 3-1.

It sure is listed as HD on my DirecTV guide for WSAZDT. What web page? Zap2it.com also lists them as HD for 3-1.
titantvguide.titantv.com/apg/ttv.aspx?siteid=50139
Using Titan TV guide.. this is what was linked on the Webpage.

titantvguide.titantv.com/apg/ttv.aspx?siteid=50139
Using Titan TV guide.. this is what was linked on the Webpage.
Just checked the Zap2it site.. and the TV guide listings.. I am not sure where they are getting their information - It appears thay Assume since it is a digital channel that everything is HD. If there are any questions - The titantv site is pretty accurate..

Just checked the Zap2it site.. and the TV guide listings.. I am not sure where they are getting their information - It appears thay Assume since it is a digital channel that everything is HD. If there are any questions - The titantv site is pretty accurate..

This doesn't make sense to me. It was announced last year on the HD Programming Thread that Jeopardy was going HD. You can do a search and find it. Not sure why WSAZ isn't passing it along in HD when it is in HD.

For those of you with HD DVD Players and Blu ray players, the Movie Galley in Sissonville just started carrying both for rental. It's about 2 to 1 Blu ray over HD DVD. They are more expensive. $5.09 for a 2 day rental and $6.99 for a 5 day rental.

Just checked the Zap2it site.. and the TV guide listings.. I am not sure where they are getting their information - It appears thay Assume since it is a digital channel that everything is HD. If there are any questions - The titantv site is pretty accurate..


Just from a very quick search, here is one post I found stating Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune have been in HD for over a year.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=880892&highlight=jeopardy/post#3

Not sure why WSAZ isn't passing it along in HD when it is in HD.
They aren't network programs. They are syndicated so they are not broadcast by NBC. So however WSAZ gets them, they don't have the ability to record the HD version to show later. So until WSAZ can record in HD or until some other affiliate who can record HD picks them up, we won't get them.

I give WSAZ a pass on this since they were first to broadcast an HD signal and their equipment is probably older than everyone elses.

Now that stupid bandwidth hogging MyZ-TV is another story.:( I hope that when WSAZ-HD goes live on D* that they use a fiber feed and not rebroadcast the watered-down OTA signal.

This doesn't make sense to me. It was announced last year on the HD Programming Thread that Jeopardy was going HD. You can do a search and find it. Not sure why WSAZ isn't passing it along in HD when it is in HD.As herdfan alluded to, you need HD recording equipment and HD-enabled Pathfire servers to record and playback the HD version. This costs in excess of $50,000. Who other than AVSers in the Charleston area have HDTVs? At this time, there would be no return on investment, making it an irresponsible decision from a purely business/money-making standpoint.

Point is, don't expect HD syndicated fare until WSAZ goes HD for news.

As herdfan alluded to, you need HD recording equipment and HD-enabled Pathfire servers to record and playback the HD version. This costs in excess of $50,000. Who other than AVSers in the Charleston area have HDTVs? At this time, there would be no return on investment, making it an irresponsible decision from a purely business/money-making standpoint.

Point is, don't expect HD syndicated fare until WSAZ goes HD for news.


Not trying to argue, but I think you are misinformed on the HD sells. Almost everyone I know (family and friends that never venture to AVS) have HD sets now. Obviously not as many as SD TVs, but there are PLENTY of HD sets in the Charleston area. Ask Circuit City, Walmart and Target how many HD sets they've sold in the last 3 years. I bet it's thousands and thousands more than those that venture to AVS.

I figured WSAZ didn't have HD recording capability, but wasn't sure if that was the reason why they weren't broadcasting it in HD. Sounds like it is. Not that I care if they show Jeopardy in HD, was just curious why they didn't. What I said made no sense to me was the person who tried to say Jeopardy is not taped in HD, and it is.

Fellas,
I helped my grandparents purchase a very nice 40" Sony 1080p HDTV while I was up in Huntington a few weeks back. She called the other day about how she didn't get any HD channels. The TV she got came with a QAM tuner and I didn't have the time while I was up there to make up a quick list of the channels that she got in HD with the tuner. I understand that she might have a better time with a box from the cable company but she is really only interested in the local stuff or whatever they broadcast for free up there in HD. I remember seeing like 1.1 and 1.2 also a few between channels 60 and 80. I thought I remember seeing DiscoveryHD too. I've scoured the internet for a list or something but have come up with nothing. Also searching this forum and others have resulted in nothing I didnt know already. I understand that the channels themselves may move around for 'security' purposes but she needs to know the freqs. Please help. Thanks.

Fellas,
I helped my grandparents purchase a very nice 40" Sony 1080p HDTV while I was up in Huntington a few weeks back. She called the other day about how she didn't get any HD channels. The TV she got came with a QAM tuner and I didn't have the time while I was up there to make up a quick list of the channels that she got in HD with the tuner. I understand that she might have a better time with a box from the cable company but she is really only interested in the local stuff or whatever they broadcast for free up there in HD. I remember seeing like 1.1 and 1.2 also a few between channels 60 and 80. I thought I remember seeing DiscoveryHD too. I've scoured the internet for a list or something but have come up with nothing. Also searching this forum and others have resulted in nothing I didnt know already. I understand that the channels themselves may move around for 'security' purposes but she needs to know the freqs. Please help. Thanks.

I'm really not sure of everything, that you are asking, but here goes....

Well, Discovery HD will not be broadcast locally. But of the 4 major locals in this area, yes, WSAZ (3), WCHS (8), WVAH (11), and WOWK (13) are locals, and are broadcast in HD. You will need a UHF antenna, and most likely an outdoor UHF antenna to receive those channels. There are other locals such as PBS that can also be received.

To get the HD Channels on either cable, or satellite, they must be signed up to receive the HD channels that are available, and have an appropriate receiver box from either the cable or satellite company that they currently have.

I'm really not sure of everything, that you are asking, but here goes....

Well, Discovery HD will not be broadcast locally. But of the 4 major locals in this area, yes, WSAZ (3), WCHS (8), WVAH (11), and WOWK (13) are locals, and are broadcast in HD. You will need a UHF antenna, and most likely an outdoor UHF antenna to receive those channels. There are other locals such as PBS that can also be received.

To get the HD Channels on either cable, or satellite, they must be signed up to receive the HD channels that are available, and have an appropriate receiver box from either the cable or satellite company that they currently have.

He was asking about the QAM Tuner, which will pick up digital cable channels without the use of a Digital Tuner from the Cable Company. If the cable company broadcasts Discovery HD, that's why he saw Discovery HD. The Locals may or may not be on there, depending if the Cable Company offer them. He could hook up an Antenna to the ATSC Tuner to pick up free OTA HD stations. Some TVs combine the ATSC/QAM Tuners.

He was asking about the QAM Tuner, which will pick up digital cable channels without the use of a Digital Tuner from the Cable Company. If the cable company broadcasts Discovery HD, that's why he saw Discovery HD. The Locals may or may not be on there, depending if the Cable Company offer them. He could hook up an Antenna to the ATSC Tuner to pick up free OTA HD stations. Some TVs combine the ATSC/QAM Tuners.

As per FCC regulations the cable companies are not supposed to encrypt the local broadcast channels (including the digital channels) that they carry. Some cable companies are in violation of this Federal regulation and are encrypting the local HD broadcast channels that they carry. However, under the FCC regulation they can encrypt any or all of the other digital channels that they carry. Virtually all cable companies encrypt the premium HD channels (HBO, Showtime, etc.) and some may or may not encrypt the other HD cable channels (Discovery-HD, A&E-HD, ESPN-HD, etc.). Also it's really hit and miss what digital channels a given HDTV with a built-in QAM tuner will be able to receive. In my Florida home I have 4 HDTVs all with QAM tuners connected to Comcast cable and no two of the TVs get the exact same set of HD channels. As for receiving the local HD channels over the air (i.e., via the HDTV's built-in ATSC tuner) and also the cable digital channels via the same HDTV's clear QAM tuner, there can be an issue in that many HDTVs only have a single RF input which must be configured for either Antenna or Cable and in order to switch back and forth would require an time consuming channel rescan. A few HDTVs do have 2 RF inputs where your Cable TV can be connected to one input and the antenna to the other and each input can be configured individually for the type of input (ie., Antenna vs. Cable). This is the ideal setup if you want to use both a cable TV and an antenna.

Anyone know if the WVU game on 8-1 will be in HD?

I noticed WSAZ didn't air The Incredibles in HD Thanksgiving night....Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I found a site earlier that indicated that it would be in HD on ABC. I am trying to locate that site now.

This is not the link that I was talking about, but it shows the game as HD......

http://www.lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm

Oh,......here is the map.

http://www.bigeast.org/fls/19400/pdfs/football/abc-espn-map.gif

http://www.hdsportsguide.com/

I assume it was in HD...I was too busy watching the scoreboard climb that I didn't pay attention :D

Glad to see WSAZ turned on the HD feed of Incredibles tonight since they didn't do it on Thursday. I'll record it since the Kansas vs. Mizz game is on.

I called Suddenlink at 1:00 am and they told me that they were adding HD channels tonight (she did not know which channels), I took this to mean by 6:00 am, but when I checked my box all the channels were the same. Maybe they will add them tonight.


On an unrelated note, I was thinking about getting Showtime which has 8 Channels and I was told that its $12 a month ($1.50 a channel). I am pretty sure when I made my decision on what package to get Basic/Expanded Basic/1 Digital package, The 1 digital package was choose between any premium tier, sports tier, or family tier (I got the Family tier). But I could have added any of the others for $5 more a month.

Is $12 a month for Showtime correct?

No new HD channels yet on Suddenlink. I had Showtime but dropped it. Now have basic/expanded basic, HBO/Cinemax, Starz and all available HD channels (17) (except Showtime) plus internet for about $116/month. I thought this was a better deal.

I am a new HDTV owner. I have the Radio Shack RS-75R UHF antenna roof mounted. I can't seem to get 3.1 or 13.1. I am getting 8.1, 11.1 and 29.1-4 very good. Antenna web shows the heading should be 298 or 299 degrees from my address for 3.1, 8.1, 11.1 & 13.1 all. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks

I am a new HDTV owner. I have the Radio Shack RS-75R UHF antenna roof mounted. I can't seem to get 3.1 or 13.1. I am getting 8.1, 11.1 and 29.1-4 very good. Antenna web shows the heading should be 298 or 299 degrees from my address for 3.1, 8.1, 11.1 & 13.1 all. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks

Not sure if that antenna is capable of picking up that well.

Do you have any buildings or hills in line with the station towers?

How far are you from the 3-1 and 13-1 towers?

You may also try a preamp with that antenna.

Your TV receiver should show what percentage of signal that you are receiving. What does it show for those two channels, and what does it show for channels 8-1 and 11-1.

I said, a preamp, but you may be able to use an indoor distribution amp to up your signal gain. Such as this one at Solid Signal. http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=CM3042

I found one of these distribution amps at Lowe's.....

Antennaweb says it is 23 miles. There are no hills for several miles. I can see the light on the Channel 8 & 11 tower from my antenna. Does anyone know which preamps work well. I might have to try one. Thanks

GMBob, you could try the distribution amp, and if it doesn't perform any better, then, you may have to get a better outdoor antenna. One antenna that is commonly used is the Channel Master UHF 4228. As a matter of fact, it may take care of all your needs, without a dist. amp.

I would still be interested in your signal level for channels 3, 8, 11, and 13.

This is one of the most commonly used preamps ......., if you decide not to go with the indoor dist. amp.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?main_cat=03&CAT=&PROD=ANC7777

I get 98 on 8 & 11 and I get nothing on 3 & 13. I have a new Sony TV and it seems like you have to have some signal for it to find it the first time in the programming. Thanks for the help. The Channelmaster antenna does look good.

I believe that I would try the Channel Master indoor distribution amp first, since this is the least expensive way to go. Like I said previously, I purchased one locally at Lowe's for approximately $25.00. If that doesn't help, then I might try a better UHF antenna.

Distance from the towers, and terrain would not seem to be your problem at this point.

I get 98 on 8 & 11 and I get nothing on 3 & 13. I have a new Sony TV and it seems like you have to have some signal for it to find it the first time in the programming. Thanks for the help. The Channelmaster antenna does look good.

I live in Sissonville and can get 3-1, 8-1 and 11-1 fine with a small indoor powered antenna from Walmart, and it's sitting on a windowsill in my basement. I bet a PreAmp would allow you to receive 3-1 and 13-1 just fine from your area.

I live in Nitro and I get 8-1 at a perfect 100, 11-1 around 75-72 and 3-1 at 68-70...I hadnt been able to get 13-1 until about 4 weeks ago and I had an antenna on for about 4 months, then last Wed. my signal went to ZERO and havent been able to get one since, do you think this amp would help my signal and what exactly does this amp plug into?? The antenna?

QUOTE=Amerikes;12324138]I believe that I would try the Channel Master indoor distribution amp first, since this is the least expensive way to go. Like I said previously, I purchased one locally at Lowe's for approximately $25.00. If that doesn't help, then I might try a better UHF antenna.

Distance from the towers, and terrain would not seem to be your problem at this point.[/QUOTE]

JDailey23, It has been a trial and error for myself. I haven't been able to get 3-1 consistently since I have had my antenna up. I recently purchased a preamp to go on my antenna, but haven't had a chance to try it.

The Channel Master 3042 distribution amp is installed indoors near your tv set. It plugs into 115v wall outlet. Your antenna coax RG-6 screws into the input on the amp, and another short piece of RG-6 goes from the output connector to your tv set or box receiver. The indoor installation makes it fairly simple to install.

Part of the Channel Master 7777 preamp installs on the antenna mast outdoors, and part(power supply) installs indoors near a 115 volt wall outlet, and the RG-6 cable installs in a similar manner to the indoor amp. Instructions come with the preamp.

Something is going on over at WOWK. My signal has been zero for two days and I normally get it in the high 80's. You can call their engineering department for information.

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All those that are locals to the Charleston area...is anyone interested in a lunch meet on a Saturday or Sunday in January??

I called Suddenlink at 1:00 am and they told me that they were adding HD channels tonight (she did not know which channels), I took this to mean by 6:00 am, but when I checked my box all the channels were the same. Maybe they will add them tonight.



I recalled them the next night and I got someone else and the guy said that they did not have any agreements in place for any HD channels but they are working on it and he told me to call back during the day and ask,so I just talked to them again and they said they are upgrading and testing the system and they are trying to get some deals done but the person I talked to had no clue how long it could take she did say that they are trying to get the NFL Network.

I was hoping to get Sci-fi HD by Sunday to watch the Tin Man mini-series in HD. I would assume whatever HD channels that they add would be from the same company, examples:
The 5 Discovery networks (Science,TLC,Animal Planet,Discovery,History)
NBC/Universal networks (Sci-fi,USA,Bravo,Universal)
Turner (TBS,Cartoon,CNN)
Fox (Fox Business,FX)
Viacom (Nick,Spike,MTV,VH1)

I just hope we do not get Turner networks, because they stretch everything and it makes it unwatchable, I like the anime on Cartoon Network and would love the digital sound but if the picture is distorted it ruins it.

My top would be:
Sci-fi
USA
Universal
FX
Spike


I don't watch enough sports to want ESPN2 over those.

[QUOTE=SGRSBSKIER;12318885]I called Suddenlink at 1:00 am and they told me that they were adding HD channels tonight (she did not know which channels), I took this to mean by 6:00 am, but when I checked my box all the channels were the same. Maybe they will add them tonight.[QUOTE]



I recalled them the next night and I got someone else and the guy said that they did not have any agreements in place for any HD channels but they are working on it and he told me to call back during the day and ask,so I just talked to them again and they said they are upgrading and testing the system and they are trying to get some deals done but the person I talked to had no clue how long it could take she did say that they are trying to get the NFL Network.

I was hoping to get Sci-fi HD by Sunday to watch the Tin Man mini-series in HD. I would assume whatever HD channels that they add would be from the same company, examples:
The 5 Discovery networks (Science,TLC,Animal Planet,Discovery,History)
NBC/Universal networks (Sci-fi,USA,Bravo,Universal)
Turner (TBS,Cartoon,CNN)
Fox (Fox Business,FX)
Viacom (Nick,Spike,MTV,VH1)

I just hope we do not get Turner networks, because they stretch everything and it makes it unwatchable, I like the anime on Cartoon Network and would love the digital sound but if the picture is distorted it ruins it.

My top would be:
Sci-fi
USA
Universal
FX
Spike


I don't watch enough sports to want ESPN2 over those.

Hi, I'm in central Texas and have Suddenlink too down here. I called them yesterday about a small increase in my bill for December. Seems rates are going up around $3 for SL customers in my area...not sure about you guys. At any rate, I too asked about new HD channels and the guy on the phone said that they should have 200 next year. :mad: Does he think we're stupid? I played along like he had me. I think they're losing customers to satellite and are trying to give customers false hope.

Anyway, just though I would pass along my SL story.

Hi, I'm in central Texas and have Suddenlink too down here. I called them yesterday about a small increase in my bill for December. Seems rates are going up around $3 for SL customers in my area...not sure about you guys. At any rate, I too asked about new HD channels and the guy on the phone said that they should have 200 next year. :mad: Does he think we're stupid? I played along like he had me. I think they're losing customers to satellite and are trying to give customers false hope.

Anyway, just though I would pass along my SL story.

I think mine went up $3 for December also, I don't have the bill yet but they told me the balance when I called and I thinks its more than I was paying. 200 channels they would have to seriously degrade the picture or spend tons of money on upgrades, or they could be counting what will be available on demand as seperate channels.

But there is enough space on our system to add at least 2 more HD stations as they were running duplicate ESPN HD and local CBS HD for the past few weeks.

No new HD channels yet on Suddenlink. I had Showtime but dropped it. Now have basic/expanded basic, HBO/Cinemax, Starz and all available HD channels (17) (except Showtime) plus internet for about $116/month. I thought this was a better deal.

Wow thats a lot better of a deal than I get....I have the exact same channels plus internet and pay $140. Is that a temporary special deal and is your internet the 6mb?

Wow thats a lot better of a deal than I get....I have the exact same channels plus internet and pay $140. Is that a temporary special deal and is your internet the 6mb?

I have one HDDVR the digital family tier/Expanded basic/Basic and all HD channels except the premium but they told me today that they could add Starz/HBO/Cinemax with their HD channels and increase my 1.5mb internet and it would cost $121, thats $14 more than I am currently paying so I am thinking about it, but I will have to add another HDDVR in a few months and thats around $10.

I have one HDDVR the digital family tier/Expanded basic/Basic and all HD channels except the premium but they told me today that they could add Starz/HBO/Cinemax with their HD channels and increase my 1.5mb internet and it would cost $121, thats $14 more than I am currently paying so I am thinking about it, but I will have to add another HDDVR in a few months and thats around $10.

It appears that Suddenlink's pricing is not consistent (big surprise) because for $121 that sounds like the package I have, and I pay $20 more. Would that be the highest speed of internet?

BTW, did anyone find the NFL network on Suddenlink today...rumor was that they were going to try to get it...that Dallas/Green Bay sounds pretty exciting so far.

It appears that Suddenlink's pricing is not consistent (big surprise) because for $121 that sounds like the package I have, and I pay $20 more. Would that be the highest speed of internet?

BTW, did anyone find the NFL network on Suddenlink today...rumor was that they were going to try to get it...that Dallas/Green Bay sounds pretty exciting so far.

If they only have 2 speeds then it would have been the highest but they might have 3 different ones(1.5,3,6).
Yeah I was told once that I could get the movie tier (encore/Sundance/Fox movie/etc.) for no extra charge it would have just change my package and I wasn't ready to do that so called back 2 days later and they said they cant do that.

I never found the NFL network and there is only 6 games left and they are not that great except for maybe the Pats/Giants if the Pats are still undefeated and the Giants are fighting for a playoff spot. It might make more sense to add it before preseason next year.

channel 13-1 re-appeared today...good, now I get to watch my Browns in HD...Woot!

For Herdfanwv, my package includes 1.5 mb internet, family tier, HBO/Cinemax, Starz, HD plus tier, HD box (not DVR) and of course locals for $116.30/month including taxes. The CSR worked with me to get the best deal. This is one of the internet packages with the HD box swapped for the regular digital box and paying the difference. I have one TV so only need one box.

For Herdfanwv, my package includes 1.5 mb internet, family tier, HBO/Cinemax, Starz, HD plus tier, HD box (not DVR) and of course locals for $116.30/month including taxes. The CSR worked with me to get the best deal. This is one of the internet packages with the HD box swapped for the regular digital box and paying the difference. I have one TV so only need one box.

Ok, that explains a little bit of the price difference, I have the same channels, but I have the HD DVR which is $9.99, and I have the 6mb internet. Thanks.

Ok, that explains a little bit of the price difference, I have the same channels, but I have the HD DVR which is $9.99, and I have the 6mb internet. Thanks.

I am pretty sure that is what they were going to give me for $121, I also have the wire maintenance which is about $3 so it would have been $118. Maybe it is some kind of new deal, it might be a good idea to call them to see if you could get it cheaper.


But here is their response to my email about adding HD Channels:
We do apologize for the delay in response. Yes, we will be adding HD channels, but currently there is no ETA of when they will be available. We do apologize. Sci-Fi HD is one such channel that will be added at a later date. Also, there will be TBS HD and others added. Unfortunately, we have not been informed as to when they will be available to be added to your current channel lineup. Thank you for your patience, and understanding. Thanks for choosing Suddenlink!

I would have actually of rather they did not add TBS HD or any more Turner networks because they distort the image and there are other stations that do not distort the image and those would be a better use of the limited space we have available.

I do not and will not watch a channel that distorts the picture and currently TBS HD has very little that is not distorted (this also affects the lip-sync at times like TNT HD) so I would watch the analog channel instead. I used to watch Mindfreak on A&E HD even though it was 4:3 it still looked and sounded much better than the analog channel (I never watched it before we had A&E HD and I wont watch it again because A&E HD now distorts their picture. There are a few things that I am interested in that I will watch every once in a while if its on an HD channel and not distorted.

I am pretty sure that is what they were going to give me for $121, I also have the wire maintenance which is about $3 so it would have been $118. Maybe it is some kind of new deal, it might be a good idea to call them to see if you could get it cheaper.


But here is their response to my email about adding HD Channels:


I would have actually of rather they did not add TBS HD or any more Turner networks because they distort the image and there are other stations that do not distort the image and those would be a better use of the limited space we have available.

I do not and will not watch a channel that distorts the picture and currently TBS HD has very little that is not distorted (this also affects the lip-sync at times like TNT HD) so I would watch the analog channel instead. I used to watch Mindfreak on A&E HD even though it was 4:3 it still looked and sounded much better than the analog channel (I never watched it before we had A&E HD and I wont watch it again because A&E HD now distorts their picture. There are a few things that I am interested in that I will watch every once in a while if its on an HD channel and not distorted.

here's an official announcement for Suddenlink customers in North Carolina. Rates going up...it just did for me in Texas as well. Also talks about new channels. Hopefully it's for all areas of the country.

http://www.reflector.com/local/content/news/stories/2007/12/01/cablerates.html?imw=Y

channel 13-1 re-appeared today...good, now I get to watch my Browns in HD...Woot!

Did anyone else notice that the voices were coming out of the Left Surround during the game? Regular analog 13 didn't have that issue nor did D*'s HD Sunday Ticket feed.


And Winslow got hosed on that last play. He was soooo forced out.

Did anyone else notice that the voices were coming out of the Left Surround during the game? Regular analog 13 didn't have that issue nor did D*'s HD Sunday Ticket feed.


And Winslow got hosed on that last play. He was soooo forced out.

Sure didn't. I was still too much in Shock after Saturday night to watch any football on Sunday :(

Has anyone heard when D* may be adding our Locals in HD? I was hoping the spot beam problem for those in the west, would bump us up for this year, but doesn't look like it. I haven't even heard if they've added ANY local HD since the new bird went up.

They added two of the markets that that announced last year and a couple of new SD markets, but that seems to be all.

I don't know what the hold up could be as there are national agreements in place for ABC and FOX (Sinclair) and NBC (Gray). Three stations is enough for D* to launch them plus the AC has stated they will be ready. I wonder if they need a bigger pipe from the LRF to the uplink facility.

Plus there is still capacity on the Spaceways for many more locals.

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I started getting my locals in hd via satellite this evening!!!!! This is awesome. I live in WV and everytime I have called directtv they have said it would be sometime in 08. I was watching tv this evening and it is raining here very hard started loosing signal, so I went to my OTA to watch locals, noticed something weird. Went to the channel guide and now I have locals in hd. Even though I live in a geographical oddity and can receive all my local in hd via an OTA with the lowest signal being 93, I still think this is awesome. Way to go Directtv. Keep adding the hd, I love it. Sorry about the boring post, I just had to boast about getting something here in WV.

I'm not.

I would have actually of rather they did not add TBS HD or any more Turner networks because they distort the image and there are other stations that do not distort the image and those would be a better use of the limited space we have available.

I do not and will not watch a channel that distorts the picture and currently TBS HD has very little that is not distorted (this also affects the lip-sync at times like TNT HD) so I would watch the analog channel instead. I used to watch Mindfreak on A&E HD even though it was 4:3 it still looked and sounded much better than the analog channel (I never watched it before we had A&E HD and I wont watch it again because A&E HD now distorts their picture. There are a few things that I am interested in that I will watch every once in a while if its on an HD channel and not distorted.

Actually if you are a sports fan TBS wouldn't be a bad choice in HD...TBS has some bowl games I believe, and then next spring it is going to have Major League baseball -not just the Braves - and also the fall baseball playoffs.

I wonder if anything is coming on December 15...my Suddenlink cable bill said that G4 TV on Channel 40 is moving to the higher tier...so I wonder if there is going to be some other channel shuffling.

Actually if you are a sports fan TBS wouldn't be a bad choice in HD...TBS has some bowl games I believe, and then next spring it is going to have Major League baseball -not just the Braves - and also the fall baseball playoffs.

I wonder if anything is coming on December 15...my Suddenlink cable bill said that G4 TV on Channel 40 is moving to the higher tier...so I wonder if there is going to be some other channel shuffling.

I watch some sports but the majority of what I watch is other things. So I would rather other cable networks in HD rather than TBS, I checked the bowl schedule no games and baseball is about 5 months away so they will have very little programing that will not be stretched. I don't have a problem with them adding it I would rather have other cable channels that do not stretch the picture to fill up the current available space. 5 months should be enough time to make more space available and then they could add it.

I will be mad if they move G4, I only have one box and multiple TV's. If they do move it, it better be in the family tier, on some other cable systems its in a sports/game package if they move it to our sports package it would cost $5 a month more, I won't pay $5 a month basically for a channel I occasionally watch (Mainly Attack of the Show).

If they are moving channels they better be adding channels, they already moved IFC, Sundance, and Fox Movie Channel to another tier but for channels I only watched together 5-10 hours a month not enough to pay more for the new tier.

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From what I understand, Suddenlink is moving G4 to the Family Tier...don't know what is going in its place.

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I started getting my locals in hd via satellite this evening!!!!! This is awesome. I live in WV and everytime I have called directtv they have said it would be sometime in 08. I was watching tv this evening and it is raining here very hard started loosing signal, so I went to my OTA to watch locals, noticed something weird. Went to the channel guide and now I have locals in hd. Even though I live in a geographical oddity and can receive all my local in hd via an OTA with the lowest signal being 93, I still think this is awesome. Way to go Directtv. Keep adding the hd, I love it. Sorry about the boring post, I just had to boast about getting something here in WV.

WOW. So, on your Guide, you see channel 3, 3-1 and another 3-1, where one is the SD (3), one 3-1 is OTA and one 3-1 is through D*?

As of last night, I didn't have this.

OOps....my reply was to someone who posted what someone else said.

I smell something fishy. Who is this person that said they have their locals in HD? I wonder if he just noticed his OTA channels in the guide and got confused?

I did read that there were several channel 1s on D* in the guide. Some think they may be getting ready to roll out some Local HD. Wouldn't that be nice. Would be nicer if we are included. I can't get 13-1, so the quicker I can get it, the quicker I can imagine watching some HD shows once the strike is over...LOL. Better yet, I can watch the Pats vs. Pitts game in HD on Sunday.

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From what I understand, Suddenlink is moving G4 to the Family Tier...don't know what is going in its place.

Yes, I just talked to them and they are moving G4 to the Family Tier on Dec. 18. The guy I talked to said this is for all areas and there were no other changes and nothing is replacing it (ESPN Classic is replacing it in most areas but we already have it on Expanded Basic). He did not know why they are moving it but he said most of the time when they move things to a digital tier from an analog station its due to the requirement that the station makes that it must be digital. I am trying to find out from G4 but I can't get a conformation email sent to me to be allowed to post to ask a question.

I find it odd that he said the 18th as last time we had any changes it was in March on the 15th half way through the month, so there might be a chance that we will get new HD channels the 15th but what he said was there were no other changes, but I think he was only looking at that date, he had to go through a few things to get there so it took a while.

I don't think a Suddenlink rep would publicly state, "We're taking a channel from analog to make room for HD content", but that's probably what's going on here.

DirecTV just released a list of new 11 HD markets for 2008.

And were not on it.:mad:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1084510&highlight=

DirecTV just released a list of new 11 HD markets for 2008.

And were not on it.:mad:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1084510&highlight=


Thanks for the link. Guess that answers that..hehehe.

damn that hurts ... paducah ky but not us? nothing like having ZERO choice in a market place.

damn that hurts ... paducah ky but not us? nothing like having ZERO choice in a market place.

It's all Bray Carrey's fault at WOWK. Come on.....we haven't bashed him in over a year.

I am new to the forum and have a question about antennas. I am looking for someone to install an OTA to compliment my D* HD DVR. I live in the Huntington area and can't find the name of any installers in the yellow pages. If any of you have any suggestions I would appreciate it. Antennaweb indicates that I need a large directional antenna which would probably need a rotor. Installing a rotor is well beyond my skill level. Plus i am terrified of heights. :)

I was hoping to get my locals in HD with the recent launch of D10 but it appears that based on the announcement our area will not be available next year.

Thanks.

It's all Bray Carrey's fault at WOWK. Come on.....we haven't bashed him in over a year.
I used the initials of his nickname a few posts up.;)

The problem is Jay has not been around. Where are you Jay? We need some bashing to start again.:D

I am new to the forum and have a question about antennas. I am looking for someone to install an OTA to compliment my D* HD DVR.

You might want to give Wilk's TV a try. They have lost some of their edge as of late, but they still may be able to do it.

Do you have the HR20? The HR21 doesn't have an OTA input.

As for the antenna, in Huntington you will be fine with something like a Channel Master 4221 or a DB4. A friend of mine who lives over by St. Marys has a 4221 just leaning against the wall upstairs and he gets all 4 nets.

I have the new HR21. I had my HD upgrade about 2 weeks ago and the installer did not have any HR20's available. I will have to do OTA via a direct connection to the TV and simply change inputs when i want to watch a network in HD. I have a cheap indoor antenna and can get 3 and 13. On a good day I can get 11 and 8 but it is just too inconsistent.

Thanks for your suggestion on Wilks. I had forgotten about them.

Speaking of antennas and such.... I just recently bought a house in an area where I can get the HD locals via cable and no longer need my OTA set up. It's just sitting in the garage taking up space. Thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone here in the forums would be interested.

I have a Channel Master 4228 and a Channel Master 7777 mast-mounted pre-amp. They're both still mounted on the pole. And of course I have the inside equipment (power adapter, etc) for the pre-amp. If anyone is interested and wants to throw me $50 for the whole set up, drop me a private message. I live in Pinch, and work in Charleston - could arrange pick-up in either. Thanks!

Jeff

I used the initials of his nickname a few posts up.;)

The problem is Jay has not been around. Where are you Jay? We need some bashing to start again.:D

I see Jay every once in a while. I will let him know that it is Bray Carey bashing time again. :)

One of Suddenlink's engineers here in WV says there will be 4 HD channels added in February and 4 more in June. He did not say what the channels will be, but I wish they would do it sooner.

DirecTV just released a list of new 11 HD markets for 2008.

And were not on it.:mad:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1084510&highlight=

That list is for the 1st half of 2008. Perhaps the Charleston/Huntington local HDs will be added in the 2nd half (we can hope).

One of Suddenlink's engineers here in WV says there will be 4 HD channels added in February and 4 more in June. He did not say what the channels will be, but I wish they would do it sooner.

That is too far away and not enough. Thats one month later than Suddenlink in N.C. which is adding TBS, ESPN2, History, and FSN south in January and I wont even watch those that much, if thats what we are getting. If they start moving more channels off Expanded Basic I will need another box anyway so it may start making sense and cost the same to switch to Direct TV.

At least 2 other cable companies have more than 30 National HD channels (that does not include locals, regional sports network and East and West coast feeds as one). We currently only have 13 and with that schedule in seven months we will only have 21, By the time we get 30 you probably could have probably pass the 18 month contract that you have to sign for Direct TV which currently has almost all the channels I watch in HD.

I feel bad that Suddenlink is jerking you guys around. Get DirecTV. You get a new HD channel every week. Just trying to help.

^
For me personally getting the local network channels in HD is the most important thing, so Direct TV is not a viable option. Also, I have priced out Direct TV compared to Suddenlink, and it would be more expensive to go with Direct TV, plus you have the initial cost of buying HD hardware. When Direct TV gets the locals in HD, I may consider it.

Does Suddenlink offer a HD/DVR unit? If so, does it have an HDMI output? Thanks!

Yes. I believe it is the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD. It does have an HDMI output.

Yes. I believe it is the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD. It does have an HDMI output.

Yup thats what I have .. hdmi out. As a side note it runs @ about 500 degrees.

Does Suddenlink offer a HD/DVR unit? If so, does it have an HDMI output? Thanks!

here in TX Suddenlink carries the Motorola HD/DVR. They get hot too as another member posted. They're also a bit loud. Not real loud, just noticeable enough to annoy you with a hum...especially if it's located on a cabinet shelf that might reverberate the hum.

it does have HDMI out as well

If you have a Suddenlink cable modem you can split off the signal and get all of the Charleston/Huntington/Parkersburg HD locals. This occurs even if you don't subscribe to any cable tv service. Obviously, they don't admit this but it works. So go ahead and get Directv/Dish and keep the cable modem.

^^^^

I thought they were encrypted. What channels are they on? QAM tuner correct?

^^^^

I thought they were encrypted. What channels are they on? QAM tuner correct?

A few weeks ago, I was getting all 4 broadcast networks in HD through Suddenlink cable without a converter box. I connected the coax directly into the tuner on my TV, and it picked them up after an auto channel search. Here's where they showed up -

WSAZ (NBC) - 87-2
WCHS (ABC) - 89-1
WVAH (FOX) - 89-2
WOWK (CBS) - 101-2

About two weeks ago, on a Saturday (must have been the day of the WVU / UConn game), all of those channels went away. Fortunately, my HD DVR box showed up that day (SAE 8300), so I didn't miss a beat. Maybe it was just a fluke those channels were there, or maybe it was a fluke that they were down for just that day... just figured I'd pass along what little info I had on the matter :)

Anyone confirm or deny this....I'd hate to go buy a coax cable and splitter for my house and it not work..My modem and TV are about 25 feet apart


If you have a Suddenlink cable modem you can split off the signal and get all of the Charleston/Huntington/Parkersburg HD locals. This occurs even if you don't subscribe to any cable tv service. Obviously, they don't admit this but it works. So go ahead and get Directv/Dish and keep the cable modem.

Anyone confirm or deny this....I'd hate to go buy a coax cable and splitter for my house and it not work..My modem and TV are about 25 feet apart

I would just unhook the coax from your modem temporarily and connect it directly to you TV and try it. Provided that you can either move your TV to where the modem is, or if the cable is long enough to reach. If it works, then you can split it.

Very frustrated talking with about 5 different D* reps and getting different answers. D* Users please help me out.

Heres the 1st thing I dont understand:

I live in Parkersburg, D* doesnt offer our locals, but wait........... type in charlestons zip and they do offer locals. Well Parkersburgs local ABC,FOX and CBS ARE WCHS,WVAH, and WOWK. We have 2 cable companys in Parkersburg Suddenlink and CAS and these are our locals, always have been. Parkersburg does have WTAP as our only "local" station for NBC so I understand that. So if my local channels are in Charleston and D* offers them why can I get them? I thought it was just a beam from a satalite? According to 1 rep its b/c of elevation, trees mountains etc. Well what if I lived in a 1000 story house how does he know.


So fine I cant get locals, what about distant feed locals from New York?
Well the rep said in my area the signal couldnt get to me b/c of elevation mountains etc.

I wish there was a direct supervisor line or something for someone I could talk to? Does this make sense to anyone else? Anyone near Parkersburg have Directv? Any help is appreciated.

Rule #1, don't pay attention to anything a D* CSR says. They are clueless.

Rule #2, see Rule #1.

As to the "solution" to your problem, find a friend who lives in Charleston/Huntington and "move" to their address. Just call D* and tell them you are moving and there is already a dish in place so you don't need anything.

But first, call or go online and stop paper billings. Just do it all electronically.

Problem solved. And yes it is stupid.

Wow... Good call herdfan. If I had thought of that, I could have "moved" to Pittsburgh and picked up KDKA, WPXI, WTAE, etc.... But I just killed DTV service anyway. I'll keep that in mind if I ever go back.

As far as locals in Parkersburg - my grandparents lived outside of Marrietta, OH and they had the distant feed locals. Certainly shouldn't be a problem with picking up the signal in P-burg.

Thanks for the help guys, I just called a uddy that lives 2 miles from me and hes getting all distant networks in HD so maybe theres hope. I forgot to mention I am not a subscriber yet.

Yuo have to qualify or be grandfathered for the distants and it has been very hard to get them the last 3-4 years.

Thanks for the help guys, I just called a uddy that lives 2 miles from me and hes getting all distant networks in HD so maybe theres hope. I forgot to mention I am not a subscriber yet.

I was grandfathered in. I then got rid of them, as it was $9 a month for all the main distant networks in HD (CBS, FOX, NBC and ABC). Once D* announced they were adding all their new channels, I resubscribed to the HD package and tried obtaining the Distant Networks in HD again. No luck. WOWK, WCHS, WSAZ and WVAH will always deny on their first go around. You'd have to call each of them and plead your case as to why you need the Distant Networks, and they still probably won't give them to you.

If you call, tell them this: Based on my geographical location, DirecTV cannot provide me with the Charleston Local Networks, so my only option through DirecTV is to use an Antenna, and due to my location, I cannot pickup the Analog nor Digital stations via an Antenna. Does your local Cable Company offer HD channels? If no, use that as a fight too. Tell them that you cannot go with Cable because they do not offer any HD channels, and you can't afford signing up for D* AND Cable, just to obtain your Local Network channels. They may give in a little and sign the waiver.

I ordered my HD service from Suddenlink today. While I was on the phone I asked about ESPN2 HD. The rep told me that it was funny I asked that because they just received an email about it today and that it was to be added in Feb. She thought ESPN U would be included as well.

My HD gets hooked up Thursday...I can't wait!!

I have tried everything to get CBS distant. I have fox/ abc (thanks Sinclair) and can get 3. Its just WOWK....the hamsters arent running fast enough on the wheel. Go figure I get 3 pefect but WOWK always disappears in the winter time. Recently I tried to get an RV waiver for my camper...and they all denied that one as well. So much for the " Free Marketpalce".

I have heard of people changing their service adress to a locale with HD networks but keeping their billing adress the same...ie second home. If I were to do this for Pittsburgh and I live in Huntington...will I be too far for the spotbeam....or will I need to select Columbus, OH. I want Pitt for the Steelers.
Thoughts?

I have heard of people changing their service adress to a locale with HD networks but keeping their billing adress the same...ie second home. If I were to do this for Pittsburgh and I live in Huntington...will I be too far for the spotbeam....or will I need to select Columbus, OH. I want Pitt for the Steelers.
Thoughts?

You sure you would rather have the Steelers....after that game yesterday? LOL.....just kidding.

yeah this week/ month has been hard to be a Steeler/ Mountaineer fan....BAHUMBUG!

Yeah, but I heard on ESPN that Doc Holiday is NOT under consideration.

Us Marshall fans had to worry about the school hiring him, but you don't so that should be a relief.:)

Good ole Suddenlink was supposed to hook up my HD/DVR box today, but I get a call saying that they ran out of boxes. I guess I will have to wait until after Christmas now. I hope it comes before the BCS bowl games.

Yeah, but I heard on ESPN that Doc Holiday is NOT under consideration.

Us Marshall fans had to worry about the school hiring him, but you don't so that should be a relief.:)

Looks like it's between Doc and Terry Bowden. The scoup is, WVU was ready to announce the head coach as Doc Holliday, but then pulled it back to talk to others. Bobby Bowden talked to Manchin to put in a good word for his son, but Manchin told him he didn't have anything to do with the hiring process. I believe Terry did have an interview or meeting, as he said it went well.

I feel sorry for WVU fans if it is Holliday. A Nehlen disciple is NOT what is needed.

After all, he couldn't even get the Marshall job. ;)

As for Manchin, if he could make WVU play a game at Marshall, he has the power to influence who the new coach is.

On February 1st, Suddenlink will add ESPN2HD, TBSHD, HistHD, & MTVHD to the HD channels in Charleston. They will appear on channels 774, 798, 767, & 762. The tech support rep at Suddenlink says it is official. I talked to them yesterday afternoon.

On February 1st, Suddenlink will add ESPN2HD, TBSHD, HistHD, & MTVHD to the HD channels in Charleston. They will appear on channels 774, 798, 767, & 762. The tech support rep at Suddenlink says it is official. I talked to them yesterday afternoon.

Excluding Locals and Regional sports channels Charter now has 34 HD channels we currently have 13, we are way behind. Also, I would think many more people would watch USA and Sci-fi than History and MTV.

On February 1st, Suddenlink will add ....... TBSHD,

I would not get too excited about this one. Its just TNT-HD with another name. They use the same horrible stretch-o-vision and the PQ is terrible.

I really don't care that much for any of those 4 channels (would have if it was fall for ESPN2 but now not that much stuff I would watch over the next few months). With TBS Stretching the picture so much it makes anything that I would have wanted to see unwatchable, but I know why they added it as its one of the most watched cable stations, but History and MTV many channels have more viewers than those like:
USA
FX
Spike
Most likely Sci-Fi

Also they have Universal HD in other areas, that would have been better than History and MTV.

Just picked up a small HDTV yesterday. Of course, they are required to have built-in digital tuners now. After doing the scan, it read all of Suddenlink's analog channels, and also picked up some digital channels. CBS, ABC, and Fox's HDTV channels came through without a set-top box. NBC was on there, but had no audio.

Not sure if Suddenlink is telling folks that they can get the broadcast stations hdtv signals without a box.

TarHeel32,

I ran across the same thing a few weeks ago. Don't know if it's the same thing you're seeing now, but I laid it out in post #2868.

Lucky for you guys with Suddenlink, CBS and NBC have agreed to carry the Pats vs. Giants game Saturday night. This will be a good test to determine how much better (if any) the OTA games look compared to NFL-HD through D* via MPEG4.

Now the entire country will get to see how lame of a commentator Bryant "Word Fumble" Gumble is.

Lucky for you guys with Suddenlink, CBS and NBC have agreed to carry the Pats vs. Giants game Saturday night. This will be a good test to determine how much better (if any) the OTA games look compared to NFL-HD through D* via MPEG4.

Now the entire country will get to see how lame of a commentator Bryant "Word Fumble" Gumble is.

I wonder if CBS and NBC will use their own announcers?

I have a Panny plasma & HR21.

The best pic is OTA, then Suddenlink, then DirecTV.

Bryant "Word Fumble" Gumble is lousy in all modes & formats.

I thought the NFL Network in HD through D* looked better than the OTA of NBC. I don't get CBS HD OTA. How did it compare?

^^^^

Event though I get CBS OTA, I try not to watch it if other options are available. I guess there is some lingering bitterness from their feet dragging in going HD.

D*'s NFLST HD broadcasts aren't blacked out so even if the game is on CBS-OTA, I will still watch the D* SF feed.

So I am down to about 5 hours a week on CBS (HIMYM, 2.5 Men, BBT, RoE, The Unit and Numbers and TAR). And with the strike, I am down to a couple of episodes of TAR until it ends.

A big BRAVO goes out to WCHS for finding a way to put a weather notice crawl across an HD broadcast without dropping it back to SD.:)



Also, DirecTV subs with HR20's that get OTA, please send an e-mail to WOWK asking them to submit guide data for 13-2 to Tribune Media so that we can get the Doppler Radar feed they are showing on it. Unlike previous HD receivers, the HR20's can't do a scan for OTA channels.

hey guys,

i currently have TWC in Ashland and am tired of the 12 HD channels we have (and paying $130 for them w/internet). what is the status for getting our locals (huntington/ashland area) networks in hd on directv? i have an antenna and get all the locals ota, but like the ability of getting them standard. does the directv rec come with an ota input? can you use the dvr to record ota?

thnx

what is the status for getting our locals (huntington/ashland area) networks in hd on directv?.......... does the directv rec come with an ota input? can you use the dvr to record ota?

Not yet. Hopefully sometime this year once DirecTV 11 goes up.

Yes and no. The HR20 HDDVR has an OTA input and can record OTA. The problem is they are hard to find as they are being phased out. You can still get them, but it will take a little work and you will have to pay $299 for it vs. what you could get free directly from DirecTV.

The readily available HR21 does not have an OTA input an should now be available for $199. There is an OTA solution in the works that will use the unit's USB ports to receive and record OTA. Speculated availability is 1Q 2008.

Those 85+ HD channels are looking pretty sweet.;)

Dish offers their HD-DVR with an OTA port on it, they have about 40-50 HD channels. I currently have Dish and I love it, plus you get 6 free months of HD programming and after that its $25 a month....its a sweet deal. Also, if you go with them and sign up for paperless billing, you can get Cinemax for a penny a month for a year.

Dish offers their HD-DVR with an OTA port on it,

Yes it does, however, you can only record 1 OTA program at a time vs. 2 with DirecTV.

Also, Dish has not announced any plans to provide HD locals at anytime in the future. DirecTV has a plan and is moving forward with it as their satellites lauch even if it is not as fast as we would like.

Maybe it's just me or my TV, but the Fox HD picture through Suddenlink looks awful.

Maybe it's just me or my TV, but the Fox HD picture through Suddenlink looks awful.

not just you. it looks like $hit on TW and also on my OTA feed...

fox sucks. there nfl football games always look bad compared to cbs, nbc, and espn...

herdfan,

is there any other benefit in getting the hr21 over the hr20? if not, why is the 20 being phased out?

thnx

herdfan,

is there any other benefit in getting the hr21 over the hr20? if not, why is the 20 being phased out?

thnx

I haven't used the HR21 (it looks nicer than the HR20), but my HR20 has given me nothing but problems since I've received it. Many on the HD Reception thread have had the same issues as I have. I think many have a 'spotty' Tuner #1. It's probably cheaper to make the HR20 without the ATSC OTA tuner built in. Because D* says they hit 72% of Households with Local HD channels, they probably aren't too concerned with the OTA capability. People like us, who only have the OTA feed for Locals in HD still require the HR20.

For the really important stuff..heheheh...what about that game last night??!!! I was too engrossed to give an accurate impression of the overall PQ. 48 points looked great to me :)

Announced this morning on WVAH news, a press conference was being held in AZ today to announce the hiring of Coach Stew as Head Coach.

For the really important stuff..heheheh...what about that game last night??!!! I was too engrossed to give an accurate impression of the overall PQ. 48 points looked great to me :)

Announced this morning on WVAH news, a press conference was being held in AZ today to announce the hiring of Coach Stew as Head Coach.

Great move IMO....lets hope he can keep the recruiting up!

herdfan,

is there any other benefit in getting the hr21 over the hr20? if not, why is the 20 being phased out?

Other than it is black and has side cooling, there is not really any benefit to the HR21 over the HR20. As Tony mentioned, the HR20 is being phased out due to costs. It is cheaper to make the unit without the OTA tuners both in hardware costs and licensing fees.

There will be an OTA solution for the HR21 in the form of a USB tuner. Exact specs have not been released, but you might see them at CES next week and should see it sometime 1Q.

Charleston city council is looking into options regarding Suddenlink's announced price increases:

http://www.dailymail.com/News/200801030188

Charleston city council is looking into options regarding Suddenlink's announced price increases:

http://www.dailymail.com/News/200801030188

I really don't have a problem with them raising rates if they are adding more things, which I don't consider 4 HD channels in Feb and 4 more in June and moving G4 to a different tier, adding enough to justify that much of an increase. Why are they raising the rates on the boxes they better have a much bigger Hard Drive for the DVR to record more than 20 hours in HD.

8:25PM and the OSU vs. LSU game is NOT in HD, yet the Pregame was in HD and the game is listed as HD on Fox. Anyone know what's going on?

8:26PM.....game is now HD>

8:27, now it's not in HD again

8:28, back in HD for the extra point attempt. This is nuts. It appears some of the camera shots are HD, others flip back to SD. I hate both teams...this gives me a good excuse to watch Gladiators.

I can't tell. It is jumping back and forth. Seems like it is local Fox not Suddenlink--I'm on OTA and there is no HD. Just think, the biggest college game of the year and they lose the HD!

During the game, they had a poll on the top Air and Ground game. The three top teams were USC, Florida and WVU. WVU won with an impressive 52% of the votes. Pretty cool. Slaton is coming back for his Sr. year too.

Are you serious about Slaton, he is the most over-rated RB in the schools history, he is also keeping a real RB on the bench in Devine.

Are you serious about Slaton, he is the most over-rated RB in the schools history, he is also keeping a real RB on the bench in Devine.


I haven't looked at anything other than the article my friend sent. It said he was coming back. Anyone else confirm?

Slaton was great when he had a more Sr. Offensive Line that created holes for him. But, say what you will, when the guy does find a hole, you can't catch him. I'm not sure what his problem was this year. He didn't run at all. Last season, and prior, he would keep his head up and keep chugging away. This season, the sign of a defender, and he'd drop his head and fall down. Not sure if he was trying to stay healthy for the NFL, but if so, he took himself either out of the running, or far down on the list.

He'll be lucky to play this year as Devine may beat him out of the #1 spot. Devine isn't as fast as Slaton in the open field, but he has the moves that Slaton doesn't have. The extra speed will come with time. I guess it's not he speed, but the stamina. Devine seems to run out of it on a long run and allows defenders to catch up. Slaton, if he breaks free, can't be tackled.

EDIT: Here is the article.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/01/07/2008-nfl-draft-bad-decision-steve-slaton-returning-to-west-virg/

Slaton gained something like 20 lbs last offseason (I assume to bulk up for the NFL) and I really think he lost just enough speed that he wasn't special anymore. He was just another running back. It will be interesting to see if he loses weight before the start of the season.

Slaton was slower this season. Probably the weight and putting the head down. However, the offensive line didn't provide the lanes that he needs to excel. One commentator dissected the first 12 offensive plays in one of the games. Slaton had +2 yards on 12 carriers. On each play the offensive line missed one or two blocks or were knocked on their "cans" and filled the hole, especially the last play in the Pitt game, when on fourth and two, Mike Dent was knocked down and blocked the hole, not the defensive line man. Trickett, who went to Flordia State, was a major loss, and one of the keys to the non-performance of the offensive line. I hope Slaton stays for another year, but it is his decision. I wouldn't want to be his "agent" and try to sell him to the NFL. All that said, why did Fox fumble the HD in the national championship game?

Cause Fox sucks.....same with NBC.

Cause Fox sucks.....same with NBC.

The only positive thing I can say about Fox carrying the Superbowl this year, is even if it's snowing or raining, I won't lose that strong signal. Let's hope they do a little better for the SB broadcast.

I get the NY Fox feed and I don't recall an issue with the broadcast. Maybe it as WVAH.

anybody else not getting the fox wvah game in hd???

anybody else not getting the fox wvah game in hd???

I am getting 4:3 SD picture on 11-1

I am getting 4:3 SD picture on 11-1

same here... and it looks like shat

I had the same problem for the UK vs Vandy game on WOWK until I called the stations. Perhaps the same needs to be done for WVAH?

I have called the number on their website and no answer so I called the newsroom and the lady said that no one comes in until business hours Monday. There is a game tomorrow as well and The Sarah Conner Chronicles. These Playoff and The Terminator series are the highest profile shows on fox this season.

I have called the number on their website and no answer so I called the newsroom and the lady said that no one comes in until business hours Monday. There is a game tomorrow as well and The Sarah Conner Chronicles. These Playoff and The Terminator series are the highest profile shows on fox this season.

that's awesome...

I can't find the phone number listed on their website.

Could you give me the number?

Or ask for the Engineering Dept.

The news room (only one that has answered) 345-4115.

Switchboard 757-0011

I have tried WCHS numbers as well which most are the same and recordings are the same as well. I will call back at halftime and ask for the Engineering department. If no one is there someone should be there by 10 for their news broadcast which I will call back if its not fixed so they can fix it for tommorow.

I just called and at first they switched me to the Eng Dept (left message).

I then called back and asked if anyone else was there that may be able to help. I was switched to the control room where they told me they "would check into it".

Fixed!

Hooray!

Seems like you got someone to do it, way to go.

Currently, I have my new HDTV hooked up to the cable and get the networks in HD using the QAM tuner as I wait for Suddenlink to get some more HD/DVR boxes in stock. However, I came home tonight and all I could get was the ABC HD channel, the rest are just black screens. Any suggestions??

wow....i moved to wv in august and they didnt have any 8300 boxes in and gave me the first generation hd dvr...and that was the last one they had....you would think they would have fixed this supply problem by now...but i guess not. Of course I would go Directv in a heart beat if it wasnt such a hassel with the apartment owner....although I would win since they are violating FCC rules by prohibiting me from getting satellite...but again...its too much of a hassel at this point.

Is there really that much of a problem with the supply of DVR's?

I am finishing my basement (was supposed to be finished in July and they have not been back in 2 months, its only like 14 days of actual work to finish if they actually worked 8 hours a day and 1 day for carpeting) and I will need one down there.

How long in advance should I ask for one to make sure I get one when its actually finished?

How long in advance should I ask for one to make sure I get one when its actually finished?


Well, we just moved on 12/29 and had to be placed on the wait list for the HD-DVR. We just got a call yesterday (01/17), so it looks like the wait right now is around 2 1/2 weeks.

As an aside, I can't believe what an unbelievable piece of crap this DVR (the 8300) is. I have a first gen TiVo--which is still working--and its interface and functionality is light years past the Suddenlink DVR. It's really shameful that it can't do something as simple as bookmark your place in a recorded program...or allow you to pause one feed while viewing another and switch back and forth. Shameful...

Well, we just moved on 12/29 and had to be placed on the wait list for the HD-DVR. We just got a call yesterday (01/17), so it looks like the wait right now is around 2 1/2 weeks.

As an aside, I can't believe what an unbelievable piece of crap this DVR (the 8300) is. I have a first gen TiVo--which is still working--and its interface and functionality is light years past the Suddenlink DVR. It's really shameful that it can't do something as simple as bookmark your place in a recorded program...or allow you to pause one feed while viewing another and switch back and forth. Shameful...


The HR20 D* HD DVR will not allow you to switch back and forth between two either. My old SD Tivo DVR upstairs will. Sounds like maybe that is common with HD DVRs.

The HR20 D* HD DVR will not allow you to switch back and forth between two either. My old SD Tivo DVR upstairs will. Sounds like maybe that is common with HD DVRs.

Actually, the DirecTV HD TiVo (HR 10-250) was able to do it quite well. Very hand when there are two games on at the same time...

Suddenlink placed me on a waiting list for a second HD DVR on Jan 3, I have checked several times, as of Wednesday no estimated time of availability. // Steve

I just got all hooked up on hd..new pioneer 5010, dish hd service, etc. The only problem...no locals in hd. I was told by three people at dish that I coudl get locals in hd...well, the installer told me otherwise and he was the one correct. I purcahsed an ota antenna from winegard..the hd8800. I live out about 35 miles from charleston and 50 miles from huntington. I wasn't able to pick up anything but fox (whihc wasn't real strong). The winegard rep said i shoudl be able to pick it up. Anyone in outlying areas having any luck with picking up charleston locals in hd?

Since it appears that DirecTV satellite D11 is supposed to launch on or around March 9th of this year, has anyone heard where Charleston will be on the list for reception of local channels in HD? Or will Charleston ever get there?

I just got all hooked up on hd..new pioneer 5010, dish hd service, etc. The only problem...no locals in hd. I was told by three people at dish that I coudl get locals in hd...well, the installer told me otherwise and he was the one correct. I purcahsed an ota antenna from winegard..the hd8800. I live out about 35 miles from charleston and 50 miles from huntington. I wasn't able to pick up anything but fox (whihc wasn't real strong). The winegard rep said i shoudl be able to pick it up. Anyone in outlying areas having any luck with picking up charleston locals in hd?

First question, where do you live?
Second question, are you on higher terrain, or in a valley?
Do you have a pre-amp on the Wineguard? If not, it will help you pull in some of the channels.

I'm in Sissonville, and I use a $20 Indoor Phillips Antenna from Walmart. It's sitting on the Windowsill of my basement window, which is only about 2' above the ground outside. I can pick up NBC (WSAZ), FOX (WVAH) and ABC (WCHS). I cannot pull in CBS (WOWK) unless I open the window. Last weekend, for the game, I had the window open, and the electric heater on full blast. This week, I opted to watch the CBS game in SD because it was too cold...LOL.

I didn't bother with an expensive antenna since D* should have our Locals in HD this year. As far as Dish is concerned, I have no clue when they'll offer it.

Since it appears that DirecTV satellite D11 is supposed to launch on or around March 9th of this year, has anyone heard where Charleston will be on the list for reception of local channels in HD? Or will Charleston ever get there?

As far as I know, there is no list. The only list that was made public a month or two ago, didn't include Charleston. I'd hope that Charleston will receive Local HD over D* soon after the launch of D11. But, they aren't following the DMAs in order, and not sure their thought process on which areas to include and when. I'd expect it to be this year, and since all the big cities now have them, I'd also expect us to be soon after the launch.

D* claims that 70% can now receive their Locals in HD through D*. I don't know if that means 70% of their Customer Base, or 70% of the Nation is covered. Either way, we aren't part of those numbers yet. Herdfan mentioned that agreements were already in place for WCHS and WVAH, so it shouldn't be difficult to put Charleston on the list.

But, they aren't following the DMAs in order, and not sure their thought process on which areas to include and when.

Herdfan mentioned that agreements were already in place for WCHS and WVAH, so it shouldn't be difficult to put Charleston on the list.

One of the main factors is market penetration. E* has an advantage over D* since E* had our locals for a good 8-9 months before D*, so D* is going to have a lower penetration here. We were one of the last DMA's lit up off 7S.

WCHS and WVAH are owned/operated by Sinclair Broadcasting Group which has a blanket agreement in place with D*. WSAZ is owned by Gray, and I am not sure about a blanket agreement, but other Gray stations are up, so WSAZ should not be a problem. The AC has indicated in emails that WOWK will be ready as well.

D*11 is technically not needed as there is still plenty of capacity on the current birds, so I have to wonder if the holdup is getting the feeds to the uplink as that takes fiber.

Wow, my Suddenlink cable bill went up almost 12 bucks...from 141.70 to an even $153.

Yeah, I think mine went up $10 or $11 this month.

I live in a small town called left hand. It is 79 north exit 25. From there, we're about 5 miles from the interstate. Yeah, we live somewhat in a valley. I didn't try a pre-amp...the guy and winegard said I didn't need one. I guess he looked up our exact gps coords and found elevation, etc. I first tried a indoor antenna from radio shack but that didn't pick up anything. the antenna form winegard was a multidirectional...do you know if a unidirectional woudl do any better? Or, is it a lost cause?

Also, I don't know what folks mean by d* and e*....how do these relate to dish network?

D* is an abbreviation for Direct TV

E* is an abbreviation for Echostar/Dish Network

I live in a small town called left hand. It is 79 north exit 25. From there, we're about 5 miles from the interstate. Yeah, we live somewhat in a valley. I didn't try a pre-amp...the guy and winegard said I didn't need one. I guess he looked up our exact gps coords and found elevation, etc. I first tried a indoor antenna from radio shack but that didn't pick up anything. the antenna form winegard was a multidirectional...do you know if a unidirectional woudl do any better? Or, is it a lost cause?

I know a lot of folks that have great luck with the DB8 Antenna. You may want to purchase a Pre-Amp first and give it a try. Do you have D*? Sometime this year, we should have our locals in HD through D*.

FYI...

I just finished speaking to a Suddenlink rep. who informed me that she just found out today by email that ESPN2 HD will not be launching this Friday as previously planned. She told me that all the email said was "due to unforeseen events." There is no new time table at this time. I guess we were supposed to get ESPN U as well, but that is on hold now too. All other new HD channels that were supposed to launch this Friday are scheduled to launch as planned.

FYI...

I just finished speaking to a Suddenlink rep. who informed me that she just found out today by email that ESPN2 HD will not be launching this Friday as previously planned. She told me that all the email said was "due to unforeseen events." There is no new time table at this time. I guess we were supposed to get ESPN U as well, but that is on hold now too. All other new HD channels that were supposed to launch this Friday are scheduled to launch as planned.

Do we know which ones are scheduled??

Hopefully once DirecTV 11 goes up on March 9th and is operational, there will be an annoucement for Charleston/Huntington locals.

Then all the cable folks can come over to the dark side of satellite and get almost 100 HD channels including ESPN2HD and the soon to launch ESPNNewsHD.:)

Do we know which ones are scheduled??

TBS, MTV and History I believe.

Hopefully once DirecTV 11 goes up on March 9th and is operational, there will be an annoucement for Charleston/Huntington locals.

Then all the cable folks can come over to the dark side of satellite and get almost 100 HD channels including ESPN2HD and the soon to launch ESPNNewsHD.:)

I might have to do some major tree chopping. :)

Here are the top rated Cable Channels for 2007:

1. Disney
2. USA
3. TNT
4. ESPN
5. TBS
6. Lifetime
7. Fox News Channel
8. Hallmark
9. Cartoon
10. Nick at Nite
11. A&E
12. FX Network
13. Court TV
14. Discovery
15. Spike TV
16. HGTV
17. Sci Fi

Those are the stations above a 1.0 rating.
The colored ones have HD channels the red we have or will have this week.
The top rated Cable stations in the 4th quarter in the 25-54 group were:
USA
TNT
TBS
Sci Fi

We are getting History and MTV. So:
Food
History
National Geographic
MTV

Those are all less watched and I would much rather have the 6 we do not have from the first list.

I have emailed Suddenlink asking why we do not have USA or Sci Fi but they have not responded for a week and I asked them about G4 over a month ago and they have not responded. I guess I will call them tonight.

Cartoon and Nick have HD versions..

Cartoon and Nick have HD versions..

I forgot Cartoon which I just posted about elsewhere, Nick does but Nick at Nite does not.

Well they are up.

762 M HD
767 History HD
798 TBS HD

774 ESPN2 Hd

Not HD but

318 ESPNU

ESPNU is not in HD on DirecTV either.......

Is ESPN2 HD up....last night it was listed in the on-screen guide, but the message on that channel said that I had to call for access. The other HD channels were working fine...BTW, TBSHD looked awful in my opinion.

Is ESPN2 HD up....last night it was listed in the on-screen guide, but the message on that channel said that I had to call for access. The other HD channels were working fine...BTW, TBSHD looked awful in my opinion.

Yes, I got the same message regarding ESPN2 HD. I called and it was corrected in less than 2 minutes. I definitely agree that TBSHD looks awful!!! What a waste of an HD channel!!

I have D*, and was happy last night to see SpikeHD aired Pros vs. Joes in High Def. Looks pretty good too.

D* has every channel I watch in HD (except for the Locals, which are coming sooner than later I hope)

The Deuce in HD is up and running!!!! 774:)

Glad to see the new channels are up. ESPN2, M HD, and History look good while TBS seems to be upconverting a lot of their programming. With now 22 available HD channels, this gives us more than 10 times the number I started with on Charter ( two, Discovery HD Theater and HBO) yet I still want more! Would like to have Sci Fi and Discovery added in the near future.

Glad to see the new channels are up. ESPN2, M HD, and History look good while TBS seems to be upconverting a lot of their programming. With now 22 available HD channels, this gives us more than 10 times the number I started with on Charter ( two, Discovery HD Theater and HBO) yet I still want more! Would like to have Sci Fi and Discovery added in the near future.

Come on over to the dark side of D* We have all those channels PLUS many more (including SciFi HD)

WOWK is asleep at the switch today. The FBR Golf Tournament is in HD in the rest of the free world except Huntington and Charleston. Perhaps someone started a SuperBowl party a little early and forgot to throw the switch?

Come on over to the dark side of D* We have all those channels PLUS many more (including SciFi HD)

LOL...for me personally at this point in time the local networks are much more important. Plus, I recently did a cost analysis of cable vs. D*...and D* would be much more expensive.

for all you Cleveland Indian fans, Dish is the only provider in WV that shows all the games on STO, they also announced all games, home and away (150+) will be in HD. BTW, STO HD is 10X the quality of ESPN/FOX/CBS/NBC combined.....not too many Tribe fans around, but it sure beats the Bucs and Reds....

LOL...for me personally at this point in time the local networks are much more important. Plus, I recently did a cost analysis of cable vs. D*...and D* would be much more expensive.

Understand. If Suddenlink in Sissonville would get on board with HD, I would have probably went with them opposed to D*. I just got the notice that D* packages are increasing in price starting 2/27/2008. I didn't really look to see how much my bill would increase as I just don't want to know at the moment.

Understand. If Suddenlink in Sissonville would get on board with HD, I would have probably went with them opposed to D*. I just got the notice that D* packages are increasing in price starting 2/27/2008. I didn't really look to see how much my bill would increase as I just don't want to know at the moment.

Tony, come to your senses....... What are you saying???? :D

I switched from Charter/Suddenlink to DirecTV nearly two years ago, and I have not regretted it one bit. And, with the addition of all the National HD Channels, with more to come in 2008, along with the locals, I am very happy that I switched. Now, who knows what the future holds, but as of now, I do not believe there is even a choice, providing that a person can get a good clear view of the southern sky. If not, then cable is the only way to go.

Does anyone know if WOWK has any plans to broadcast in 5.1?
or
Does our CW station have an HD feed and if they do if Suddenlink plans to carry it?

Tony, come to your senses....... What are you saying???? :D

I switched from Charter/Suddenlink to DirecTV nearly two years ago, and I have not regretted it one bit. And, with the addition of all the National HD Channels, with more to come in 2008, along with the locals, I am very happy that I switched. Now, who knows what the future holds, but as of now, I do not believe there is even a choice, providing that a person can get a good clear view of the southern sky. If not, then cable is the only way to go.

I know what you are saying. But, 95% of my viewing is through Network channels, so that's a biggy for me. Because neither my local cable company nor D* offer Locals in HD, it was a no brainer for me to go with D*. Had Suddenlink had Locals, I may have not have been so quick to stay with D*. I have all types of problems with my D*. Some of the HD channels come in, some don't. I was on the phone with their support for over an hour one day running tests, and we determined that my Tuner 1 on the receiver was bad. The guy said since I paid for the maintenance plan, they'd send me to that group and they would send me a new one. When I talked to the rep in that department, they said they couldn't do it until a Tech was sent out. I had to cancel the callout four different times because if I RESET the receiver, everything would work fine for a while. If there was a show I wanted to watch, I would RESET it before the Tech came. Each time, the night before the tech was to arrive, my receiver was working and I had to cancel. Hard to fix something not broken. It was screwing up on me again this weekend. I had to RESET again. Just gets old.

Yeah, I understand what you are saying. I have been having pretty good luck with DirecTV, and those were the kinds of problems that I was having with Charter when I switched. I guess it just depends on your service at the time of our mishaps.

There are definitely pro's and con's with any service.

I have an outdoor antenna that picks up the locals in HD, and that really means a lot to me. SD on big screen tv's sucks.... I am really anticipating locals with DirecTV. With the launch of DirecTV's D11 satellite this spring, we should get locals in HD this year. Maybe before...., I have noticed that DirecTV continues to roll out locals nearly on a weekly basis throughout the country.

One may ask why I have such anticipation since I already get locals OTA???? Not sure myself, except that it would make complete our service from DirecTV without the need for an outdoor antenna. Although, I will most likely keep my antenna. There is also something about the launch, setup, and operation of a satellite that makes all this very intriguing. :eek:

Yeah, I understand what you are saying. I have been having pretty good luck with DirecTV, and those were the kinds of problems that I was having with Charter when I switched. I guess it just depends on your service at the time of our mishaps.

There are definitely pro's and con's with any service.

I have an outdoor antenna that picks up the locals in HD, and that really means a lot to me. SD on big screen tv's sucks.... I am really anticipating locals with DirecTV. With the launch of DirecTV's D11 satellite this spring, we should get locals in HD this year. Maybe before...., I have noticed that DirecTV continues to roll out locals nearly on a weekly basis throughout the country.

One may ask why I have such anticipation since I already get locals OTA???? Not sure myself, except that it would make complete our service from DirecTV without the need for an outdoor antenna. Although, I will most likely keep my antenna. There is also something about the launch, setup, and operation of a satellite that makes all this very intriguing. :eek:


I don't think we'll have a chance to get them before this year :D

I'm really counting on D* to get the locals. If there truly is something wrong with my tuner and they send me a replacement, I'll probably get the new HD DVR that doesn't have the OTA tuner built in. My TV doesn't have a tuner, so I'd be out of luck. Another reason I'm so anxious for D* to pump out our Locals in HD.

Wow no posts in 2.5 weeks...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing........

Read in the Daily Mail this evening that WSAZ was gearing up to do local news in HD. While the good news is that they might get an HD recorder so they can air the HD version of Wheel and Jeopardy, the bad news is local anchors in HD!:eek:

That's good news, herdfan. Did the article give any time frame?

Read in the Daily Mail this evening that WSAZ was gearing up to do local news in HD. While the good news is that they might get an HD recorder so they can air the HD version of Wheel and JeopardyMight get an HD recorder? It would be highly unlikely that a transition to HD news would come complete without multiple HD recording and playback devices.

That's good news, herdfan. Did the article give any time frame?

No it didn't. The main jist of the article was that there were going to be some layoffs as they moved all the news production to Huntington vs. the split they have now.

Here is a link: http://dailymail.com/News/Kanawha/200803030257

Should have found a link for the first post. :o

Might get an HD recorder? It would be highly unlikely that a transition to HD news would come complete without multiple HD recording and playback devices.

Yes, but are those the same type of recorders that will allow the station to record HD feeds of syndicated programs for later playback?

While we are having a little "down time" in the forum, I wanted to pass along a new feature called DirecTV on Demand. I recently saw that D* offered a Beta service called DirecTV on Demand. I tried it and it works. You will need an HR 20 DVR or better. You connect an ethernet cable to the back of the DVR which in turn is connected to your local internet broadband. You then go to D* channel 1000 and there is a listing of about 2000 programs that you can download via the internet into the DVR for playing "on demand" at any time in the future. Most are movies and some of the more current movies require a purchase $$. Nonetheless, a significant number of programs from the History Channel, Discovery, Golf channel etc are listed. If you missed a program, or fotgot to set the DVR you can go to "on demand" and download the program into the que and watch it at your convenience. The setup was very easy. Once I connected the cable to my router, the DVR recognized the connection immediately and listed the programs for download. Most of the shorter programs downloaded in only a few minutes. The movies take longer. However, once part of the movie is downloaded, you can start watching immediately while the remainder of the program is downloaded. I thought it was interesting that I was using my Suddenlink broadband to download programming into my D* DVR for viewing.

Thanks for the info, loyalwvu.

Would you (or anyone) know what I would need to do to connect "wireless"? I currently have a wireless router, but don't know what I would need to connect to my HR20. The HR20 is too far from my computer to make running wires practical.

Thanks again

Search threads at http://www.dbstalk.com for all kinds of DirecTV info. (some relevant links below)

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99327

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=74426&highlight=wireless+on+demand

The Beta info gives instructions for a wireless connection, but recommends against it, probably because of speed or download issues. The wireless instructions are nearly the same, you need an ethernet wireless device that can pick up the wireless signal (like the ones used for remote printing) and then simply run the cable from the wireless receiver into the DVR. My own unit was across the room from my modem, and I considered trying it via wireless, but instead found a 50' used ethernet cable and ran it around the room. /grs

loyalwvu, how much is your cable internet? are you required to have basic cable in order to get internet?

i currently have time warner cable tv and internet. i want to switch to dtv but was concerned about losing my cable internet. i would like to stay away from dsl as they require a basic phone package and we do not have phone service at my house (use cell phones only).

loyalwvu, how much is your cable internet? are you required to have basic cable in order to get internet?

i currently have time warner cable tv and internet. i want to switch to dtv but was concerned about losing my cable internet. i would like to stay away from dsl as they require a basic phone package and we do not have phone service at my house (use cell phones only).
The Suddenlink high speed (6M HSD) internet package runs $32.17 per month plus $2.96 for the modem rental. Total $35.13. I have tried DSL, but the speed is not close to the cable modem. I think (but don't know for sure) that you can get the Suddenlink internet package without the basic cable. I have the basic or extended cable anyway for some other TV sets in other locations in my home. I also think (but don't know) that if you order the internet access only, you can split the signal and get basic cable off the modem connection.

The Suddenlink high speed (6M HSD) internet package runs $32.17 per month plus $2.96 for the modem rental. Total $35.13. I have tried DSL, but the speed is not close to the cable modem. I think (but don't know for sure) that you can get the Suddenlink internet package without the basic cable. I have the basic or extended cable anyway for some other TV sets in other locations in my home. I also think (but don't know) that if you order the internet access only, you can split the signal and get basic cable off the modem connection.

Verizon DSL has up to 7.1Mbps of dedicated bandwidth. Much faster than cable's shared 6Mbps access. The down side is that there is a distance limitation of around 11kft from the CO and you have to be on straight copper to the CO. I'm not sure if any Remotes have the 7.1Mbps capacity. I'd assume most COs around here have it now considering we have it in Sissonville.

I'd assume most COs around here have it now considering we have it in Sissonville.

:(

Not my RT here in Teays Valley. From the techs I have talked to it is all ready for the litespan cards and the CO is serving a couple of litespan remote terminals, but not mine.

I was perfectly happy with cable internet when I had Adelphia. Service was about as rock solid as cable internet can be and with only 100 or so users on a fiber hub, bandwidth was never a problem.

Then Comcast took over and moved our peering from Ironton to Virginia and service has sucked ever since. I have to reboot my modeon once a week, have intermitent dropouts and have lost service for 12+ hours several times.

Can't wait until my RT is upgraded.

Rumor has it Directv 11 launch is delayed until WED....minor issue. This sat will be huge for the local channel rollout this year. Also more nationals are to be added. I cant wait to get WOWK on a dependable basis.

Wireless is too slow for On Demand. There is a product you can run throught the electric wiring in your house by simply plugging in your modem to the wall and ethernet port to the wall in the room the TV is in. Pretty cool stuff.

Anyone know if Suddenlink will show NCAA games on Channel 22 like last year? Here is a listing of the Thursday games from the Daily Mail. I assume these will be on the HD channel. Still no info on the WOWK website.



THE FIRST day of CBS Sports' regional coverage of the NCAA Tournament first round in the Charleston-Huntington television market will be headlined by West Virginia's basketball date with 10th-seeded Arizona on WOWK (Channel 13).

The network will air games Thursday from noon until approximately 5 p.m. and then again from 7 p.m. until around midnight. CBS will show viewers portions of most games and do live cut-ins to close finishes, as has been the standard in the recent past.

The Arizona-WVU game in Washington, D.C., for a 9:30 p.m. telecast time Thursday, according to a regional telecast schedule from CBS Sports.

The Thursday afternoon primary regionals tentatively scheduled for Charleston-Huntington are Georgia-Xavier at 12:20 p.m., followed by Oral Roberts-Pittsburgh at 2:50.

The WOWK Thursday night doubleheader opens with Duke-Belmont at 7:10 p.m. That winner plays the Arizona-WVU on Saturday afternoon in the second round in a national telecast at 2:10 p.m.

Hey lsdean

Thanks for this info. Did you just find it on CBS's website?

I was wondering if they will be covering the UK vs Marquette game.

No, it was listed in the Charleston Daily Mail newspaper.
http://dailymail.com/Sports/WVUSports/200803180184

Still nothing listed on the local CBS site. I just noticed that the UK game was at the same time as the Pitt. Personally, I would be shocked if they showed the Pitt game over UK. I might have to send an email or call if an announcement isn't made soon.

Well, I ended up calling. And the woman in the newsroom said that they were showing the UK-Marquette game at 2:30. The USC-Kansas State game would be shown in 7:00 slot. She said that it will be posted on the website. So I guess we will have to wait and see to be sure but this is obviously different than was reported in the newspaper.

Here is the official Thursday schedule
http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=36163

Thursday March Madness on WOWK
Posted Tuesday, March 18, 2008 ; 04:21 PM
Updated Tuesday, March 18, 2008 ; 04:32 PM

What we're showing and when.
A complete list of games for Thursday's action in the NCAA Tournament.

12:20 PRIMARY GEORGIA/XAVIER
12:30 SECONDARY TEMPLE/MICHIGAN ST.

2:30 PRIMARY KENTUCKY/MARQETTE
2:50 SECONDARY ORAL ROBERTS/PITTSBURGH

7:10 PRIMARY KANSAS ST/SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
7:10 SECONDARY BELMONT/DUKE

9:30 PRIMARY ARIZONA/WEST VIRGINIA
9:40 SECONDARY GEORGE MASON/NOTRE DAME

Alternate Feeds:

ComCast Channel 54

Time Warner - Ashland Channel 24

Suddenlink Channel 22 - Charleston, St. Albans/Milton/Wayne, Logan/Kermit, Prestonsburg, KY Channel 19 - Pt. Pleasant/Pomeroy, Spencer, Wirt

Armstrong Channel 24