I doubt it is that, tbh. While it is possible, it is rare especially for the audio to sound like absolute crap unless they are pulling more sh*t on you guys up there in ex-adelphia land (even on the lowliest of digital channels, my experience has been the incoming audio for 2ch audio at the lowest comes in at 160kbps 48khz, 20khz bandpassed per channel, AC3. Which is -roughly- on par to mp3 at the same rate give or take. That will only sound like crap if the source is crap to begin with.)

More than likely it is the source. Probably wherever they are getting their feed from at the game.

Usually I can replicate ballpark sound by using Dolby Pro Logic II, but not last night.

It could be the hook up with Fox sports. I don't know why but I got the impression the problem was the source. I could be wrong. It just didn't sound good.

Usually I can replicate ballpark sound by using Dolby Pro Logic II, but not last night.

It could be the hook up with Fox sports. I don't know why but I got the impression the problem was the source. I could be wrong. It just didn't sound good.Several Cavs games on ABC Sunday afternoons had lousy audio too. It was bad both on E* and Digital OTA, while the analog OTA had the superior sound. The digital feed had phasing issues (the "comb filter" effect). The last game was better. Every time I hear this kind of problem I think "isn't anybody monitoring the signal???"

Ok. Dunno if it's isolated around here or not. Wondering if any of you guys are seeing this?

Can't exactly explain it. Like digital noise of some sort, but on the analog channels here on sets that are hooked up straight to cable. The same channels on the box in digital are clean. It's not a tv issue as it is the same on 3 different analog sets in the house.

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It's not on every channel, only a small handful. Not any pattern that I can surmise. Two I know of are Discovery and Animal Planet.

Ok. Dunno if it's isolated around here or not. Wondering if any of you guys are seeing this?

Can't exactly explain it. Like digital noise of some sort, but on the analog channels here on sets that are hooked up straight to cable. The same channels on the box in digital are clean. It's not a tv issue as it is the same on 3 different analog sets in the house.

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It's not on every channel, only a small handful. Not any pattern that I can surmise. Two I know of are Discovery and Animal Planet.

You look here mister. This is quality TW analog picture. If you don't like it then you just buy additional digital boxes.

Signed

Steve Fry:D;)

lol I haven't seen it quite that bad but I've seen something similar.

You look here mister. This is quality TW analog picture. If you don't like it then you just buy additional digital boxes.

Signed

Steve Fry:D;)

lol I haven't seen it quite that bad but I've seen something similar.

He's not kidding. That is the best option. I only have one TV connected without a box, and it never gets used. Probably for that reason. I can't stand analog picture, even on an analog set.

Any signs of SDV life yet? We're a few days away.

Any signs of SDV life yet? We're a few days away.
Just looked at SDV diagnostic menu tuned t MLB Extra Innings. There is no sign of it, nothing but zeros.

Any signs of SDV life yet? We're a few days away.

Not quite sure. I haven't been able to get any of the Sports tier stations on my HD Tivo's cable cards. I do not have an adapter to let me use SDV for my Tivo, not sure what I need to do to get one. I don't know if that's the issue or if it's something completely unrelated.

Several calls to tech support haven't resolved the issues. "We'll talk to head end, give us a call tomorrow if you're still having an issue" is the best I can get.

Not quite sure. I haven't been able to get any of the Sports tier stations on my HD Tivo's cable cards. I do not have an adapter to let me use SDV for my Tivo, not sure what I need to do to get one. I don't know if that's the issue or if it's something completely unrelated.

Several calls to tech support haven't resolved the issues. "We'll talk to head end, give us a call tomorrow if you're still having an issue" is the best I can get.

Where do you live?

Tuner adapter hotline 3305724116 Jeanie handles.

What morons they have at customer service.

Ok. Dunno if it's isolated around here or not. Wondering if any of you guys are seeing this?

Can't exactly explain it. Like digital noise of some sort, but on the analog channels here on sets that are hooked up straight to cable. The same channels on the box in digital are clean. It's not a tv issue as it is the same on 3 different analog sets in the house.

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It's not on every channel, only a small handful. Not any pattern that I can surmise. Two I know of are Discovery and Animal Planet.

I think the tuners are being overdriven from a signal that might be too hot. Place one of the converter boxes on that outlet and use it's built-in signal strength meter to determine the level on the troublesome channels. I'm betting they're hitting over +10dbmv.

Too much signal is a good problem to have - it's easy to insert a bit of attenuation to burn off the excess.

Not quite sure. I haven't been able to get any of the Sports tier stations on my HD Tivo's cable cards. I do not have an adapter to let me use SDV for my Tivo, not sure what I need to do to get one. I don't know if that's the issue or if it's something completely unrelated.

Several calls to tech support haven't resolved the issues. "We'll talk to head end, give us a call tomorrow if you're still having an issue" is the best I can get.

I think you have SDV. All of the channels in the MLB, NHL Sports Tier are SDV.

Where do you live?

Tuner adapter hotline 3305724116 Jeanie handles.

What morons they have at customer service.

I'm in Brunswick. One of the technicians said they were having a problem with the NHL Network that several customers were reporting, but didn't know what the issue was.

All of the channels work just fine on my other TV which just has a normal TWC set top box.

This started happening I think this past Monday.

I think the tuners are being overdriven from a signal that might be too hot. Place one of the converter boxes on that outlet and use it's built-in signal strength meter to determine the level on the troublesome channels. I'm betting they're hitting over +10dbmv.

Too much signal is a good problem to have - it's easy to insert a bit of attenuation to burn off the excess.

I don't think it's a signal issue. Looks more 'digital' to me like the particular decoders they are using to convert the channels upstream to analog NTSC are buggering up somewhere.

The box is further up the chain of splits by about...3? splitters and is off the first splitter inside the house and the signal is just inside the green are and hardly being overdriven. I think on a lot of channels the downstream signal varies with preference to the low side anywhere from 0db to -10-ish db.

I'm in Brunswick. One of the technicians said they were having a problem with the NHL Network that several customers were reporting, but didn't know what the issue was.

All of the channels work just fine on my other TV which just has a normal TWC set top box.

This started happening I think this past Monday.
That clearly shows you have SDV.

Call the hotline number. Nickdawg do you still have the email for him?

It really irks me that whoever you dealt with couldn't figure this out.

I'm in Brunswick. One of the technicians said they were having a problem with the NHL Network that several customers were reporting, but didn't know what the issue was.

All of the channels work just fine on my other TV which just has a normal TWC set top box.

This started happening I think this past Monday.

Sounds like SDV. The TWC box works because it has the necessary two way communication built into the box. Tivo needs the tuning adapter to make the channels work. NHL and MLB are on SDV. Sicne Hook can still watch the MLB channels I take it his area is not on SDV. But he has the tuning adapter too.

Just had a real ingenious thought hookbill to test if your area has SDV or not. At least this will work for tivo users: Take the tuning adapter completely out of the equation and see if the known SDV channels still come in. ;) Should only need to pull the usb cable for the length of the test and plug it back in so no need do any major rewiring.

C'mon Hook. Give it a try. :D

Just had a real ingenious thought hookbill to test if your area has SDV or not. At least this will work for tivo users: Take the tuning adapter completely out of the equation and see if the known SDV channels still come in. ;) Should only need to pull the usb cable for the length of the test and plug it back in so no need do any major rewiring.
I could do that but I don't need to. Do you remember Inundateds post? He confirmed that the SDV diagnostics on his SA 8000 had lit up. I have looked at my SA4250 and it has nothing but zeros just like my 2 Tivos. I'm positive it is not active in my area.
They also appear to be doing the change in VOD at the same time and the VOD on the 4250 has not changed. The email I received said that would be going on through the month of May.

I'm sure it will be coming soon. I will be able to see the difference on the diagnostic screen.

I don't think it's a signal issue. Looks more 'digital' to me like the particular decoders they are using to convert the channels upstream to analog NTSC are buggering up somewhere.

The box is further up the chain of splits by about...3? splitters and is off the first splitter inside the house and the signal is just inside the green are and hardly being overdriven. I think on a lot of channels the downstream signal varies with preference to the low side anywhere from 0db to -10-ish db.

So those lines in the picture are always in the same spot?

So those lines in the picture are always in the same spot?

That part is predictable. Seems to be in mostly contiguous spots of color (for the most part anyway).

In any case, it seems to have cleared up for now. All clean on the affected channels.

This morning while on MLB Extra Innings I did screen shots of the diagnostic screen from the tuner adapter. In the first one is the general diagnostic screen I named SDV 1 Notice it says Authorized: NO and all the zeros forllowing.

The next one is SDV MINI CAROUSEL. Status says Init but there are no numbers to support anything going on.

Finally I have SDV Session Info Which shows an Idle status. This does have a Frequency next to it but IIRC it is not in the SDV ranges.

And to keep everyone happy I by passed the Tuner Adapter this morning, and while there was a hesitation, the channel I was using did come back up.

Therefore I don't believe we have SDV in this area. Hope that convinces you guys.;)

TiVo dropped a message saying this channel had been added to the line up. I see it listed on TW's guide but I can't get it and it's not even on the 4250 guide. I'll bet this is another thing like when we were shown that we could get WNEO HD in the internet guide but they really were not delivering it to our area.

Anybody else get this channel? And if you do what area are you in .ie. Ex Adelphia Cleveland, Ex Adelphia Erie, TW Native.

i tried getting 358 and all i got was ????

also "3" days til new HD Channels

FWIW I am certain that the sound issue I spoke about is the source. Funny, sound improves when they go to commercial. This is on Fox Sports Rocky Mountain.

Two questions for you all. First, does anyone know who to contact at WEWS with technical questions? Second, does WEWS broadcast any subchannels?

Two questions for you all. First, does anyone know who to contact at WEWS with technical questions? Second, does WEWS broadcast any subchannels?

Question 1, lots of luck.;) Question 2, no they don't.

Two questions for you all. First, does anyone know who to contact at WEWS with technical questions? Second, does WEWS broadcast any subchannels?

Why? Everything has been OK with WEWS for the last few weeks. It's been surprising.

No subchannels. Just the main 720p ABC/WEWS feed.

Two questions for you all. First, does anyone know who to contact at WEWS with technical questions? Second, does WEWS broadcast any subchannels?

The first post in this thread lists all Cleveland area OTA local ch's and sub-ch's:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1139546

Two questions for you all. First, does anyone know who to contact at WEWS with technical questions? Second, does WEWS broadcast any subchannels?
Let me guess, you want to know where the Cavs vs. Pistons game can be found?

The first 2 quarters were on ESPN2, even though the EPG had poker listed. I finally found the location of the game by observing the crawl under the double overtime Celtics vs. Bulls game.

We'll need to keep this in mind the next time there is an early game that goes into overtime.

nickdawg is asking me in the TiVo thread to find out if I have SDV. Since that is really a local issue I'll respond on this thread.

I just checked upstairs and there is no sign of any SDV. Numbers look exactly like what I had posted.

I really suspect that they ran into a lot of problems when they launched it in Inundated land and hence the delay?

There is probably one person who is a member of this forum who knows what's going on but he gets real quiet sometime, don't you Cathode Kid?;)

I know your reading, if you've got anything even a clue hows about it?

nickdawg is asking me in the TiVo thread to find out if I have SDV. Since that is really a local issue I'll respond on this thread.

I just checked upstairs and there is no sign of any SDV. Numbers look exactly like what I had posted.

I really suspect that they ran into a lot of problems when they launched it in Inundated land and hence the delay?

There is probably one person who is a member of this forum who knows what's going on but he gets real quiet sometime, don't you Cathode Kid?;)

I know your reading, if you've got anything even a clue hows about it?

Well, TWC tech #3 has came and went. This time he didn't have to check anything inside, he checked the outside line at the drop and said the signal is low. The "bucket truck" is supposed to come out tomorrow. I'm taking that to mean TOMORROW. If it doesn't, and my new channels along with the existing ones don't work, I'm calling TWC TOMORROW!

No SDV but Tivo has already added the new HD channels on to the guide.

I checked my 4250 and it has no guide data and channels are not available.

This is true on my TiVo as well. Only the guide data is available. No actual channels are being broadcast yet. This is the first time I have ever seen guide data arrive on the TiVo before channels were activated.

I would guess the added HD channels will be available tomorrow as scheduled.

nickdawg is asking me in the TiVo thread to find out if I have SDV. Since that is really a local issue I'll respond on this thread.

I just checked upstairs and there is no sign of any SDV. Numbers look exactly like what I had posted.

I really suspect that they ran into a lot of problems when they launched it in Inundated land and hence the delay?

There is probably one person who is a member of this forum who knows what's going on but he gets real quiet sometime, don't you Cathode Kid?;)

I know your reading, if you've got anything even a clue hows about it?

Who, me? ;)

I know they're extraordinarily busy right now, working on this launch as well as some other migrations. Can't say much more at the moment.

No SDV but Tivo has already added the new HD channels on to the guide.

I checked my 4250 and it has no guide data and channels are not available.

This is true on my TiVo as well. Only the guide data is available. No actual channels are being broadcast yet. This is the first time I have ever seen guide data arrive on the TiVo before channels were activated.

I would guess the added HD channels will be available tomorrow as scheduled.

What's wrong with the 4250? It has the channels but no guide data, or is the whole thing missing guide data? :confused:

Tivo probably has the channels ready to go tonight because they know Hookbill will be calling tomorrow. They can't take the wrath of Hookbill! :p

I'm oing to check right now...

4250 = Nothing available. No guide data and channels are not available yet.

4250 = Nothing available. No guide data and channels are not available yet.

I'm thinking that box might be getting upgraded tonight. Sometimes they act "funny" right before changes are made. Watching TV at night, I've noticed missing channels or things running slow. It's especially that 2AM - morning time period when TWC fixes things.

No changes here yet. Everything appears to be the same. No added channels.

Well, I just checked here and even rebooted the box once. No new channels yet. Gonna wait and see if they are up later this afternoon.

Well, I just checked here and even rebooted the box once. No new channels yet. Gonna wait and see if they are up later this afternoon.

I just gave the 8:30 am check and both TiVos now have guide data but no actual programming. The 4250 is still without programming or guide data.

I think they rolled in around 10-10:30 am the last time.

Checked about 20 minutes ago. Still not signs of the HD channels, other then the fact that I have guide data on the TiVo's.

I'm beginning to think this will be an "after" not an "on" April 29. If that's the case I'll bet it's lack of bandwith and a situation with SDV.

I know the day is young, 24 hours in a day. We will see.

My Tivo has likewise added the following channels to its lineup: 432, 438, 450, 452, 460, 466, 486 (& 358 last week). If I select any of them, I get an new error message "The tuning adapter is not able to provide these channels". And no sign of SDV activity on the tuning adapter. So it indeed looks like they hit the no SDV capacity yet bottleneck.

My Tivo has likewise added the following channels to its lineup: 432, 438, 450, 452, 460, 466, 486 (& 358 last week). If I select any of them, I get an new error message "The tuning adapter is not able to provide these channels". And no sign of SDV activity on the tuning adapter. So it indeed looks like they hit the no SDV capacity yet bottleneck.

It's not just that, they are not showing up on their own equipment either. Kudos to Tribune Media for being on top of these added channels. I've seen other areas that have not been so lucky.

Oh and that's the same message I get on my TiVo's as well.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it ain't gonna happen today. Maybe tomorrow.

I just wonder if SDV is the reason. Did it just work so poorly with SARA that they are holding the whole thing up, or is there another reason?

Geez, you folks are impatient about new channels!! :D

I haven't been near my HD set or my TiVo, but I'll go up there after I post this. I'll also take some SDV screen screenshots. Did someone here in Brunswick say they had SDV? That's ex-Adelphia, on the same former Cuyahoga Valley system we are on (same lineup, WVIZ on 2, etc.).

But I can't confirm or don't remember if Brunswick would be fed out of Bath. Probably too far.

But I can't confirm or don't remember if Brunswick would be fed out of Bath. Probably too far.

Correct. It's from further north.

I think we've been very patient for HD considering the difference between sattelite and cable.

Geez, you folks are impatient about new channels!! :D

I haven't been near my HD set or my TiVo, but I'll go up there after I post this. I'll also take some SDV screen screenshots. Did someone here in Brunswick say they had SDV? That's ex-Adelphia, on the same former Cuyahoga Valley system we are on (same lineup, WVIZ on 2, etc.).

But I can't confirm or don't remember if Brunswick would be fed out of Bath. Probably too far.

Are those SDV channels still acting up on your box?

I was waiting for the TWC truck roll today. They never came.

Time for another call, another wait. :mad:

I think we've been very patient for HD considering the difference between sattelite and cable.

Exactly. Why I'm still with this f#(&!*% company is beyond me. It's like TWC burned down my house, crashed my car and "did" my sister! ;)

I have to agree. I think the only reason we haven't switched to DirecTV or Dish is because both have some sort of ugly contracts, credit checks, and expensive lease fees/deposits. That's just not in the budget right now. As high as TW's rates are (running like $130/mo here for just the basic cable/digital package w/DVR and no premiums, standard telephone service, and RR Lite), it's still less mess and hassle than satellite.

But make no mistake, the second budget allows for it, I'm making the switch ASAP. Let's hope they have the updated Tivo receivers by then or at least the PC tuners. :D

At least though they are starting to get on the ball with adding more HD programming.

I remember the guy from Brunswick. He had the same problems Inundated had.

I have to agree. I think the only reason we haven't switched to DirecTV or Dish is because both have some sort of ugly contracts, credit checks, and expensive lease fees/deposits. That's just not in the budget right now. As high as TW's rates are (running like $130/mo here for just the basic cable/digital package w/DVR and no premiums, standard telephone service, and RR Lite), it's still less mess and hassle than satellite.

But make no mistake, the second budget allows for it, I'm making the switch ASAP. Let's hope they have the updated Tivo receivers by then or at least the PC tuners. :D

At least though they are starting to get on the ball with adding more HD programming.

Nah, I'd never go back to D*. I hated it so much I considered paying the "penalty" before one year.l I hear they've changed it to two years now, especially for HDTV. Plus they make you pay like $200 for the HD DVR. That's a big fat NO for me: owning equipment. If their "Directv" brand boxes are like TWC, last thing I want to do is own it!

If I ever went anywhere, I'd go to AT&T Advanced TV. I looked at it online, one of the best packages would be about $120 for TV, internet and phone. Right now I pay a hair over $100 (~$103 to be exact) for JUST TV. 2 HD boxes, HBO, Showtime, HDTV Tier, Digital Cable, HD DVR. I don't get any of the "extra" channels(like Choice Tier, Sports Tier, Movie Tier). No internet or phone(Not that I would ever get that from TWC anyway). AT&T has about 100 national HD channels already, plus some of the higher up packages include channels I've never heard of and cable does not carry. It's really tempting, but I don't see a huge, "ugly" box on my street yet. :(

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I'd like to make an addition. If all you have is (I assume) one HD box - DVR, no premiums and you still pay $130, you're getting seriously ripped. My AT&T internet is about $20. Phone's a bit more. But TWC's CABLE side is a joke if it costs as much as I pay just to have only 2 boxes, 2 premiums and only one "extra" tier. Movie, Sport, Choice are each $5. That would be $15 extra if I wanted EVERY channel between 101 and 400. :eek:

Nah, I'd never go back to D*. I hated it so much I considered paying the "penalty" before one year.l I hear they've changed it to two years now, especially for HDTV. Plus they make you pay like $200 for the HD DVR. That's a big fat NO for me: owning equipment. If their "Directv" brand boxes are like TWC, last thing I want to do is own it!

If I ever went anywhere, I'd go to AT&T Advanced TV. I looked at it online, one of the best packages would be about $120 for TV, internet and phone. Right now I pay a hair over $100 (~$103 to be exact) for JUST TV. 2 HD boxes, HBO, Showtime, HDTV Tier, Digital Cable, HD DVR. I don't get any of the "extra" channels(like Choice Tier, Sports Tier, Movie Tier). No internet or phone(Not that I would ever get that from TWC anyway). AT&T has about 100 national HD channels already, plus some of the higher up packages include channels I've never heard of and cable does not carry. It's really tempting, but I don't see a huge, "ugly" box on my street yet. :(

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I'd like to make an addition. If all you have is (I assume) one HD box - DVR, no premiums and you still pay $130, you're getting seriously ripped. My AT&T internet is about $20. Phone's a bit more. But TWC's CABLE side is a joke if it costs as much as I pay just to have only 2 boxes, 2 premiums and only one "extra" tier. Movie, Sport, Choice are each $5. That would be $15 extra if I wanted EVERY channel between 101 and 400. :eek:

A couple things. First they no longer sell their DVR you lease it. Its around. 3 bills IIRC. That's the deposit.

Cable internet is faster then phone company. Also you can get Voip for 20 bucks not from TW from Voyage. Though even TW is cheaper then phone company.

I'm not arguing your thinking, I'm just pointing out a couple of things.

Yes, it's only one HD/DVR box here. I know the $130/mo is a massive rape in the pocketbook, but there's no alternatives around here. For phone we have embarq in this area and not only are they worse rate-wise than TW (phone after all the fees runs about the same as TW's, but that's only unlimited local. You have to add on long distance to that. The standard DSL package last time we had it was around the same price as TW's standard tier and only offered 3M/384K and that's the tier cap. Signal/sync rates were great here.), but they seemed to have a fascination with cutting off your DSL service on a random whim, wait for you to call to see WTF is up, then slap you with the ETF and reconnect fees. I will no longer touch them with a 10 mile long pole UNLESS they start offering month to month service. And as far as I can tell, there are very few dsl resellers and none of them decent that will run on embarq.

A couple things. First they no longer sell their DVR you lease it. Its around. 3 bills IIRC. That's the deposit.

Cable internet is faster then phone company. Also you can get Voip for 20 bucks not from TW from Voyage. Though even TW is cheaper then phone company.

I'm not arguing your thinking, I'm just pointing out a couple of things.

Vonage is another company I won't touch even if my life depended on it. That and that magicjack garbage. Just my own pet peeves with those two in particular. VoIP is extremely reliable when set up right and I'd have no doubt I'd be able to do so with ease. But it has so many failure points it's not funny. I do a lot of modifications to my network almost on a daily basis that would constantly be taking out the VoIP service at every turn. That is why I like TW's phone service. It just works.(tm) It bypasses the internet completely, cheaper than the local ILEC, and the quality is even better (not often, but Embarq's copper around here would go cranky and crackily about once a year for a few days off and on and often screwed with DSL service as well. TW's service is fully digital almost the full call distance depending on who you call. If the other party has digital based phone service or a cell phone, it should be crystal clear the whole way.)

Though I will completely agree with you that TW's internet offerings are light years ahead of what you get from the phone companies at least around here. Though the way they are heading, this may change....

A couple things. First they no longer sell their DVR you lease it. Its around. 3 bills IIRC. That's the deposit.

Cable internet is faster then phone company. Also you can get Voip for 20 bucks not from TW from Voyage. Though even TW is cheaper then phone company.

I'm not arguing your thinking, I'm just pointing out a couple of things.

On internet or phone? :confused: My "thing" is if they try to sell me internet, I'll challenge them to beat $20. They can't.

And phone. I'm aware of prices, seen the ads. I've been against VOIP since day one when I first learned of it. The one thing that's always worked for me is the phone. It's worked for over 150 years, why mess it up now? :cool:

Yes, it's only one HD/DVR box here. I know the $130/mo is a massive rape in the pocketbook, but there's no alternatives around here. For phone we have embarq in this area and not only are they worse rate-wise than TW (phone after all the fees runs about the same as TW's, but that's only unlimited local. You have to add on long distance to that. The standard DSL package last time we had it was around the same price as TW's standard tier and only offered 3M/384K and that's the tier cap. Signal/sync rates were great here.), but they seemed to have a fascination with cutting off your DSL service on a random whim, wait for you to call to see WTF is up, then slap you with the ETF and reconnect fees. I will no longer touch them with a 10 mile long pole UNLESS they start offering month to month service. And as far as I can tell, there are very few dsl resellers and none of them decent that will run on embarq.

That sucks. There's no option for AT&T or any of the 'real' providers out there? I can see why TWC would actually look good in that case! :eek: Luckily here in the city we have always had decent phone service. First it was Ohio Bell, then SBC, then back to AT&T. It's pretty consistent in Akron/surrounding suburbs. That's all I have experience with.

AT&T has been about 95-98% flawless. I've only had to restart the modem/restart the computer a few times since it wasn't working. Other than that, I'm happy with it. Speed is good enough for me. I can d/l Bit Torrents, watch streaming video without a problem and it's 'fast'. :cool:

Vonage has provided me excellent phone service for over two years. Inundated will back me on this, he's been with them longer then me. Respectfully Chat I say to you if you haven't experienced it don't knock it.

the claws are out!

fight fight fight!! :D:D:D

j/k

My only beef with vonage is the whole 'market it to joe schmoe LONG before the technology has matured'. Unfortunately what you never hear about are the people who have problems with it. Yeah: If you have a decent internet package and don't use it for much more than email or web browsing, it'll work great. But add in a multi-user household with teenagers or someone trying to get away with a 'lite' internet package, and it's going to go to sh*t. There is QOS, but not many routers with their first party firmwares offer it. And even then, doubt many average joes would know how to set it up.

Past that, I have a beef with VoIP in general and that being all the various failure points for it to have a chance to go wrong.

For the minor extra premium for TW's phone service, I use it because it works and VERY rarely (unless the cable line somewhere along the way is knocked out. But again, very rare. And at that point, any VoIP provider would be dead as well.) goes out. Ever.

Nickdawg let me explain how flawed your logic is. The horse was around .centuries before the car but you don't own a horse do you?:)

Nickdawg let me explain how flawed your logic is. The horse was around .centuries before the car but you don't own a horse do you?:)

But that's only because the car was an improvement on the horse. I don't see something that will not work if your cable internet is down or the power out an improvement over traditional phone. I remember the "blackout" a few years back. Even areas with power didn't have cable since the power at the cable headend was out. Yet my landline phone worked in the dark... That's enough of a selling point for me! :cool:

When hour internet goes out or if you have a power failure and your not smart enough to have a natural gas powered generator like me then your calls get forward to your cell or any other number you want t use. So you are protected. I've never had a problem in two years.

Lease excuse typos should be "when your internet goes out". Can't edit with blackberry.

Hmmm..... I did have a bunch of new SDV HD channels show up on my TiVo today. Curious bit - the tuning adapter decided about the same time to stop working until I rebooted the TiVo. Methinks there's a software bug lurking around....

When hour internet goes out or if you have a power failure and your not smart enough to have a natural gas powered generator like me then your calls get forward to your cell or any other number you want t use. So you are protected. I've never had a problem in two years.

A generator? That the solution... :confused:

I told yay, building a better mousetrap. At the end of the day, nothing beats a simple piece of wood with a metal snappy thingy! :rolleyes:

I'll separate these into two posts: first about SDV (now, with screenshots!), then about VoIP/Vonage.

First, yes, we have SDV working here, still, in the western Summit County area of the former Adelphia system...fed out of Bath (Bath/Copley/ex-Northampton, etc.).

Here's your proof, as of last night at just before 11 PM:

SDV Mini Carousel screen:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Inundated/sdvcaro.jpg

Tuned to USAHD (thought to be an SDV channel by me, confirmed by this screen):

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Inundated/sdvusa.jpg

Tuned to WKYCHD (not an SDV channel, confirmed by this screen):

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Inundated/sdvwkychd.jpg

The pixellation problems I posted about last time I talked about SDV...have gone away, as far as I can tell in brief tuning around. It all seems to be in working order on the HD side, SDV channels and non-SDV channels.

Vonage has provided me excellent phone service for over two years. Inundated will back me on this, he's been with them longer then me. Respectfully Chat I say to you if you haven't experienced it don't knock it.

I'm very happy with Vonage. I've had it since it was Earthlink Unlimited Voice, a rebranded service I got through a family member's Internet hookup (they had Earthlink High Speed Internet through the Time Warner lines for whatever reason, and it was just easier/cheaper to do it that way). We're talking around 2003 or so.

The Earthlink VoIP service was just Vonage under the Earthlink banner. Earthlink went their own direction VoIP wise, and let us UV customers loose to Vonage.

I'll admit I'm not a heavy user, but I like the feature set, the free calling range (I once called a hotel in the UK just for kicks, since it's now free with the standard plan!), and it has been trouble-free for me.

Though I use my cell phone for most calling now, I"m afraid to dump Vonage because of the free calling to places like Canada - which would sap cell phone minutes even if they don't charge extra. One reason we went with the service was because I spent hours and hours talking to a woman in Canada. (Long story. :D)

Hmmm..... I did have a bunch of new SDV HD channels show up on my TiVo today. Curious bit - the tuning adapter decided about the same time to stop working until I rebooted the TiVo. Methinks there's a software bug lurking around....

My TiVo S2 (SD only!) dutifully brought in the next wave of channels in the guide today. Of course, since it's only an S2, I have to go in and unselect them...the TiVo software guide can detect that you don't get premium channels, but you have to manually pull HD channels from the list on a non-HD box.

And for the record, the promised new HD channels haven't appeared on my Super SDV Equipped (heh!) SA8000HD yet.

I haven't rebooted the box yet, though. I won't bother to do that until A) people here say it helps or B) later in the day or Friday. :D

Vonage is another company I won't touch even if my life depended on it. That and that magicjack garbage. Just my own pet peeves with those two in particular. ....

I've had MagicJack for almost a year which I use when I travel (and I travel weekly). It has been excellent. In between appointments I'll go park somewhere and hop on to an open WiFi (sometimes legally, sometimes not ;)) and make calls. I made numerous calls from the Caribbean in January where the resort wants to charge $2.00 per minute. MagicJack: $0.00 calling any US # ($20 per year).

I bought one for a charity group here in Cleveland doing work down in El Salvador and they prefer it much better than Skype.

The only time it has not worked is when I've had a poor WiFi connection.

With magicjack, I hate the fact they tie you into a usb attached device and their windows only bloaty software. If I must use a VoIP provider, I want someone who uses the SIP standard and advertises BYOD. Let me use whatever device I want whether it be a softphone, ATA, or WiFi Phone, all of my own choice.

Also, I have a bit of eliticism. >> I stand by the fact that VoIP is still not completely ready for primetime when it comes to marketing it to joe-sumer. Get IPv6 globally deployed and force ISPs into offering at least 15/2 packages as an absolute minimum and then get back to me.

Back on topic though: No new channels yet here even with a reboot. Will check back around noon and see if they're added.

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And phone. I'm aware of prices, seen the ads. I've been against VOIP since day one when I first learned of it. The one thing that's always worked for me is the phone. It's worked for over 150 years, why mess it up now? :cool:

So I take it you don't have a cell phone? No wireless phones in your house? When you make a call do you have to *crank* a lever on the side of the phone? :D

Many people who tried to use their legacy land-line phones (calling out and receiving calls) during the big black out only got the "all circuits are busy" message anyway. One way or another technology bites you in the ass! :p

If you want to get REALLY technical about it nickdawg, even your landline service is partially VoIP. ;) Those trunk lines between switching centers are all IP based now. All digital, usually 8 bit mono 8khz PCM audio (comes out to roughly 64kbps) which is ample enough for voice.

With magicjack, I hate the fact they tie you into a usb attached device and their windows only bloaty software. If I must use a VoIP provider, I want someone who uses the SIP standard and advertises BYOD. Let me use whatever device I want whether it be a softphone, ATA, or WiFi Phone, all of my own choice.

Also, I have a bit of eliticism. >> I stand by the fact that VoIP is still not completely ready for primetime when it comes to marketing it to joe-sumer. Get IPv6 globally deployed and force ISPs into offering at least 15/2 packages as an absolute minimum and then get back to me.

Back on topic though: No new channels yet here even with a reboot. Will check back around noon and see if they're added.

VOIP can be glitchy but I've had great service with it including my two VOIP #'s through WOW. They need money coming in to the technology to invest in the technology so it can grow and advance. You think phone service was all that reliable 20 years after Bell started marketing it? ;)

MagicJack is going after the mass market where Windows dominates (good or bad) with 90+% of the market. It must be truly plug and play to penetrate that market and uses well known, existing hardware like the good old wired telephone. Obviously you are not their target market. :)

I love reading consumer reviews on the MagicJack where you get some great feedback like "...but then it doesn't work when my computer is turned off..." well DUH! :D But this is precisely the mainstream market they are selling too! :p

And for the record, the promised new HD channels haven't appeared on my Super SDV Equipped (heh!) SA8000HD yet.

I haven't rebooted the box yet, though. I won't bother to do that until A) people here say it helps or B) later in the day or Friday. :D

What new channels are 'supposed' to be added? I looked on the TWC Ne Ohio website and couldn't find any mention. Not that it matters anyway, just be good to know what I'm *not* getting. :(

When hour internet goes out or if you have a power failure and your not smart enough to have a natural gas powered generator like me then your calls get forward to your cell or any other number you want t use. So you are protected. I've never had a problem in two years.


A generator does you NO GOOD when Time Warners head end goes out. My last power failure last fall Time Warner was dead as a door nail even though I had backup power. Of course the cell phone is still a backup but my landline phone worked great. I even keep a non-cordless non battery powered phone for such emergencies.

Incidently TW's guide data is still all borked up but its better then last night.

A generator does you NO GOOD when Time Warners head end goes out. My last power failure last fall Time Warner was dead as a door nail even though I had backup power. Of course the cell phone is still a backup but my landline phone worked great. I even keep a non-cordless non battery powered phone for such emergencies.

Incidently TW's guide data is still all borked up but its better then last night.

Well, the point is you have a back up with the cell phone. You guys want to live in the 20th century that's up to you.

What's wrong with TW's guide data, last I saw that looked OK

For VoIP, I've used both Vonage and Broadvoice, and vastly prefer Broadvoice - they let you use your own devices, you can have multiple lines for less, and multiple devices per line. IME there' s nothing wrong with VoIP that can't be fixed with decent equipment and a decent ISP connection (I have DSL from both AT&T and Covad local resellers, and neither exactly cuts it on speed or reliability )-: And if there's any ISPs in NE Ohio offering IPv6, I'd love to know who they are. Comcast are way ahead of TWC on IPv6 deployment nationally.

Back to on-topic DTV...

I can understand multiple lines for less, but Vonage allows you all the multiple lines you want.

Quite honestly I have phones made for Vonage so that may be why I never have an issue. I use Vtech phones for Vonage and I have the router that came with it. If that's what you call it. Whatever the central unit is, I got that with the Vonage package of phones.

Well, the point is you have a back up with the cell phone. You guys want to live in the 20th century that's up to you.

What's wrong with TW's guide data, last I saw that looked OK

WBNX-55/407 is missing. No listing, no signal, no guide info. I checked Directv and everything is ok.

Ben Music

WBNX-55/407 is missing. No listing, no signal, no guide info. I checked Directv and everything is ok.

Ben Music

Over here in SARA land we have guide data on both channels. I checked the SA 4250 and TiVo.

That must be a Navigator thang...:)

On the guide data many of the items had no descriptions. If I opened the item it would say it was getting the data but would never retrieve it.

Anyone getting the new channels yet?

I can't find the list, but here's what came down on my TiVo yesterday - my TiVo that can't get the new HD channels since it's an SD S2 box :D

432 - ESPNNews HD
438 - MLB Network HD
450 - TLC HD
452 - Animal Planet HD
460 - ABC Family HD
466 - Bravo HD
486 - CNBC HD

Oh, the TiVo also brought in CNBC World on 358 (SD), but my cable box attached to the TiVo doesn't have it yet.

Maybe TW just doesn't have the capacity to deliver the goods. No SDV = No new HD for everybody?

Cathode Kid, who knows a great deal more then he lets on says they are working hard on several different things over there. I'll bet it's crazy pressure. And I'll also bet people are calling customer service asking about the channels, even though it says "on or after April 29."

Where the heck is nickdawg I wanna hear about his line problem soap opera.:D;)

Maybe TW just doesn't have the capacity to deliver the goods. No SDV = No new HD for everybody?

Yep, you're right. The channels don't show up less than one day after being promised, so TWC can't do it. They're giving up. No more new HD for us.

We're screwed. They can't ever fix it. We'll never get any more channels. In fact, they'll start having to take away channels, cancel all HD service, and only do SD digital, forever.

Geez! It's only 2 PM on April 30th! :D Relax, people!!!

Yep, you're right. The channels don't show up less than one day after being promised, so TWC can't do it. They're giving up. No more new HD for us.

We're screwed. They can't ever fix it. We'll never get any more channels. In fact, they'll start having to take away channels, cancel all HD service, and only do SD digital, forever.

Geez! It's only 2 PM on April 30th! :D Relax, people!!!

OK, wise guy, got some news for you.:) Ohio Media Watch is reporting on twitter they are going to have an update either today or tomorrow and they specifically mention TW as one of the items they will be talking about.

Edit: anyway you took me totally out of context. I didn't mean no HD ever. I meant no HD until they get SDV distributed. Possibly.

Edit: anyway you took me totally out of context. I didn't mean no HD ever. I meant no HD until they get SDV distributed. Possibly.

My apologies, my friend of feathered friends. :D

I just grabbed onto your message to express some frustration...and nickdawg wasn't around, so you got it! Consider it no more than a virtual cream pie in the face...

Yep, you're right. The channels don't show up less than one day after being promised, so TWC can't do it. They're giving up. No more new HD for us.

We're screwed. They can't ever fix it. We'll never get any more channels. In fact, they'll start having to take away channels, cancel all HD service, and only do SD digital, forever.

Geez! It's only 2 PM on April 30th! :D Relax, people!!!

I received a letter last fall from Time Warner Cable that we would have SDV in
October of 2008 and 6 months later no SDV. Looks like it will be October of 2009, if ever.

I received a letter last fall from Time Warner Cable that we would have SDV in
October of 2008 and 6 months later no SDV. Looks like it will be October of 2009, if ever.

I remember that letter and if you recall I said it wouldn't be until Fall of 2009. Lol, I doubt that but certainly they did say SDV would start on 4/9/2009.

OMW just responded to my tweet, nothing solid to report yet. Maybe he will have something about what's going on.

OMW says they are trying to get someone from TW to talk about the HD launch but they probably won't have anything until tomorrow, reminding us all that it was "on or after" 4/29.

I remember that letter and if you recall I said it wouldn't be until Fall of 2009. Lol, I doubt that but certainly they did say SDV would start on 4/9/2009.

Yes, the letter states:"Starting on 10/20/08, Time Warner Cable will begin providing a number of our existing, lesser-viewed channels via SDV." They list 95 channels "That will be delivered using SDV beginning 10/20/2008."

I received a letter last fall from Time Warner Cable that we would have SDV in
October of 2008 and 6 months later no SDV. Looks like it will be October of 2009, if ever.

"If ever"? :D And remember...I have SDV on Time Warner Cable RIGHT NOW. Go up a few messages back and see the evidence.

Sorry I can't provide links. Ohio Media Watch says new TW page shows HD channels on hold indefinitely. They do however discuss future HD additions into June that are planned

Leave it to TWC to screw this up!! Nice Job!! :D:D:D:D:D

I don't think its TWs fault. They got stuck with a huge mess between their own system, Comcrap, and Adelphia.

I'm puzzled as to why this group of channels is postponed with no date, yet they are willing to post approximate dates for future HD arrivals.

I don't think its TWs fault. They got stuck with a huge mess between their own system, Comcrap, and Adelphia.

I'm puzzled as to why this group of channels is postponed with no date, yet they are willing to post approximate dates for future HD arrivals.

I'm glad they posted the future channels. The current block here has to be SDV. Once SDV goes through, they can add as many channels as they want. Except now the future channels will be coming faster than before. :cool:

I'm glad they posted the future channels. The current block here has to be SDV. Once SDV goes through, they can add as many channels as they want. Except now the future channels will be coming faster than before. :cool:

But that's the 60 thousand dollar question. When is SDV going to go through?

Inundated still says he has problems from them launching it and that's on SARA equipment. They are not going to launch again until they figure out what happened in that area and other areas they attempted to launch in. At least that's my thinking.

I believe it will get worked out but the question is when? And will we ever see that batch of HD channels that went into HD limbo?

One thing I was very very happy to see was the intent to launch a HD channel for MLB Extra Innings.:cool: I see there are a lot of Dodgers games on that channel but I never get to see the first place Western Division Champs in action.

And speaking of baseball, Tribe fans have got to be very disappointed with what they have seen so far. These guys should have been contenders but they look horrible. I'm predicting a long season for Tribe fans.

Well at least you got the NBA playoffs to look forward to. It will be interesting to see who gets to the NBA Finals.

But that's the 60 thousand dollar question. When is SDV going to go through?

Inundated still says he has problems from them launching it and that's on SARA equipment. They are not going to launch again until they figure out what happened in that area and other areas they attempted to launch in. At least that's my thinking.

Big deal. Picture breaking up, I have the same problem. Even with all my problems, I'm still not saying that we should stop the whole thing. Keep going TWC! It will be easier to figure out with more channels! :D

Big deal. Picture breaking up, I have the same problem. Even with all my problems, I'm still not saying that we should stop the whole thing. Keep going TWC! It will be easier to figure out with more channels! :D

One moment he hates them. Now he's a cheer leader.

You make me laugh nickdawg.:D;)

One moment he hates them. Now he's a cheer leader.

You make me laugh nickdawg.:D;)

Oh no, I still despise SDV. But just because I hate it doesn't mean I want all progress to stop, just for ME. :D:D

On or after May 27, 2009 the following services will be added to HD Tier in some areas: Smithsonian & Mav TV.
"Mav TV" has been showing up in my E* EPG for years. There is nothing on it 95% of the time and the other 5% it's showing Dallas Mavericks games that are locked out. I can't understand why this channel even shows up on EPG's outside of the Dallas market area. People on the satellite forums have been wondering the same thing too. So now even cable is adding this non-channel.

"Mav TV" has been showing up in my E* EPG for years. There is nothing on it 95% of the time and the other 5% it's showing Dallas Mavericks games that are locked out. I can't understand why this channel even shows up on EPG's outside of the Dallas market area. People on the satellite forums have been wondering the same thing too. So now even cable is adding this non-channel.

What team is it that Mark Cuban owns? Is it the Dallas Mavericks? He owns either them or the Spurs.

Why it's coming here? Because Time Warner thinks like Mark Cuban? I dunno.:D;)

What team is it that Mark Cuban owns? Is it the Dallas Mavericks? He owns either them or the Spurs.

Why it's coming here? Because Time Warner thinks like Mark Cuban? I dunno.:D;)

Yes, the Mavs. Cuban made his fortune with technology co's and selling them off to the likes of Yahoo. I wonder if he's setting the groundwork to try a Ted Turner type natl cable/sat network for syndicated programming and then tying that in to some online streaming enterprise.

Total speculation here, but he sure seems to know the right people to do so and (apparently) already has natl carriage of his "Mav" Network. :confused:

Yes, the Mavs. Cuban made his fortune with technology co's and selling them off to the likes of Yahoo. I wonder if he's setting the groundwork to try a Ted Turner type natl cable/sat network for syndicated programming and then tying that in to some online streaming enterprise.

Total speculation here, but he sure seems to know the right people to do so and (apparently) already has natl carriage of his "Mav" Network. :confused:

I know he did well with HDnet and HDnet Movies. He's always been a pioneer of HD technology.

I liked his reality show, too bad it got cancelled so quickly.

Inundated still says he has problems from them launching it and that's on SARA equipment. They are not going to launch again until they figure out what happened in that area and other areas they attempted to launch in. At least that's my thinking.

You missed my recent update, where I said SDV seems to be working fine now... no glitches or pixellation in some time, at least when I've watched. I know I'm getting USAHD via SDV (see the pictures I posted the other day).

Of course, they aren't gonna launch new channels only for the western Summit County area. :D

The launch of the following HD channels in all areas is postponed with no new date available:


I give up!! :D

I'm no longer following the 'launch dates' of TWC HD channels. Add what you want, when you want. I don't care. I won't be watching. Which is perfect since I can't watch anyway, as SDV didn't "magically fix itself" here. Looks like I'm going to be sticking to the OLD, SD channel numbers here! It's fine with me.

Now, I'm off to read a book(remember those?). Who wants to join me? :)

I give up!! :D

I'm no longer following the 'launch dates' of TWC HD channels. Add what you want, when you want. I don't care. I won't be watching. Which is perfect since I can't watch anyway, as SDV didn't "magically fix itself" here. Looks like I'm going to be sticking to the OLD, SD channel numbers here! It's fine with me.

Now, I'm off to read a book(remember those?). Who wants to join me? :)

Might I suggest:
Fools Rush In: Steve Case, Jerry Levin, and the Unmaking of AOL Time Warner (Paperback)
by Nina Munk (Author)

Stealing Time: Steve Case, Jerry Levin, and the Collapse of AOL Time Warner (Paperback)
by Alec Klein (Author)

There Must Be a Pony in Here Somewhere: The AOL Time Warner Debacle and the Quest for the Digital Future (Paperback)
by Kara Swisher (Author)

:D

Might I suggest:
Fools Rush In: Steve Case, Jerry Levin, and the Unmaking of AOL Time Warner (Paperback)
by Nina Munk (Author)

Stealing Time: Steve Case, Jerry Levin, and the Collapse of AOL Time Warner (Paperback)
by Alec Klein (Author)

There Must Be a Pony in Here Somewhere: The AOL Time Warner Debacle and the Quest for the Digital Future (Paperback)
by Kara Swisher (Author)

Just too friggin' funny!:D:D:D

channels are going to show up ????

May 15th...May 5th....NEVER !!! lol...

A generator does you NO GOOD when Time Warners head end goes out. My last power failure last fall Time Warner was dead as a door nail even though I had backup power.

FWIW of the 4 different HE's I've been in all had some pretty big a** generators on site plus back up batteries the size of a full size van.
plus batteries on the amps in the field. chances are something took out a feeder line (maybe for the same reason you lost power)

During the 2003 blackout, we (Cuyahoga Falls) never lost power. I distinctly remember watching news updates via TWC into the wee hours of the morning, and the local head-end is right in the middle of an area that was without power.

channels are going to show up ????

May 15th...May 5th....NEVER !!! lol...

Sorry, ErieMarty we can only accept one answer, not multiple answers. However it has been a pleasure to have you with us and please accept a consolation prize, from our good friends at TW, where we will dial 911 and have somebody come by and remove the knife they stuck in your back.

Thanks for being on todays show and we hope everybody tunes in next week to see "Crime Warner - The Power to Screw You." So from myself and the lovely nickdawg, have a Good Evening.:D:D:D

FWIW of the 4 different HE's I've been in all had some pretty big a** generators on site plus back up batteries the size of a full size van.
plus batteries on the amps in the field. chances are something took out a feeder line (maybe for the same reason you lost power)

Time Warne came back when the power came back. So either their batteries didnt work or they dont have such equipment in the former Adelphia market.

Sorry, ErieMarty we can only accept one answer, not multiple answers. However it has been a pleasure to have you with us and please accept a consolation prize, from our good friends at TW, where we will dial 911 and have somebody come by and remove the knife they stuck in your back.

Thanks for being on todays show and we hope everybody tunes in next week to see "Crime Warner - The Power to Screw You." So from myself and the lovely nickdawg, have a Good Evening.:D:D:D

That sums it up. Now stay tuned for another exciting episode of "As the Cable Unwinds...", sponsored by AT&T!

More firewire fun here: Just out of curiosity and wanting some good quality, I checked to see if Palladia was open to record or not. I had their 3hr 'HD Videos' block recorded this morning. Lo and behold it let me grab it over firewire. I'm shocked really. I expected MTV/Viacom/whoever to be over-protective and keep it locked down.

Another thing I noticed: I dunno what exactly the culprit is here whether it's the source feed or Time Warner, but the SDV channels seem to be a bit lesser PQ than the non-SDV HD channels even though they all average out around 15mb/s equally. I can clearly tell a PQ difference between, say, Palladia, USA, or Discovery in comparison to the OTA stations, TNT, TBS, etc..

Time Warne came back when the power came back. So either their batteries didnt work or they dont have such equipment in the former Adelphia market.

Thats possible. as I think about it the four were former comcast & cablevision plants

More firewire fun here: Just out of curiosity and wanting some good quality, I checked to see if Palladia was open to record or not. I had their 3hr 'HD Videos' block recorded this morning. Lo and behold it let me grab it over firewire. I'm shocked really. I expected MTV/Viacom/whoever to be over-protective and keep it locked down.

Another thing I noticed: I dunno what exactly the culprit is here whether it's the source feed or Time Warner, but the SDV channels seem to be a bit lesser PQ than the non-SDV HD channels even though they all average out around 15mb/s equally. I can clearly tell a PQ difference between, say, Palladia, USA, or Discovery in comparison to the OTA stations, TNT, TBS, etc..

Also, I think I have come to another interesting thought. I think when it comes to these boxes, the quality of the firewire transfer and the amount of 'packet loss' is relative to the cpu power and load.

Lost frames, glitchy sections of video, etc. all seem to be proportional to the resolution and bitrate of what program I am transferring. 480i SD seems to be just fine with no glitches most of the time (A clip from the Weather Channel I uploaded to YT a short while back which is a direct upload of the TS file off of VLC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_XzOZeCpk0), 720p adds some, and 1080i is even more problematic.

Add into this the fact we already know how underpowered these 8300HDC's are. I also did notice how some of this improved slightly and got less of a glitchy mess when we got bumped to ODN 3.1.1_3.

So with that said, another reason I am anxiously waiting for the Samsung boxes to come here.

Time Warner former Adelphia area. Only have guide data till thursday again

Update , I got some guide data by restarting the 8300HD

Update , I got some guide data by restarting the 8300HD

My S3 just rebooted for absolutely no reason that I can tell. Strange.

Thats possible. as I think about it the four were former comcast & cablevision plants

I've used my Internet connection here while the area was blacked out, though presumably it's possible that the headend itself wasn't in the dark.

I'm in a former Adelphia area. I can't remember if the service was Adelphia PowerLink, or TWC Roadrunner at that point...I think the latter. The cable modem and router were kept alive on a UPS here at home, and I was on a laptop...

The headend for me, as noted in this HDTV discussion, is in Bath...

So I got my tuning adapter for my TiVo HD yesterday from TW. Is there any sense in hooking this thing up yet? I'm in South Euclid, and last I checked, I'm not missing any of the channels that are supposed to be switching to SDV. I'm mostly looking at the HD sports channels (HD Sports, STO, Big 10 HD, etc).

Since you follow this, nickdawg, I thought I'd let you know that newsnet5.com has rebranded thier homepage banner to "WEWS 5 ABC". That's reduced their "Newschannel 5" moniker down to their newscast branding only...

I've used my Internet connection here while the area was blacked out, though presumably it's possible that the headend itself wasn't in the dark.

I'm in a former Adelphia area. I can't remember if the service was Adelphia PowerLink, or TWC Roadrunner at that point...I think the latter. The cable modem and router were kept alive on a UPS here at home, and I was on a laptop...

The headend for me, as noted in this HDTV discussion, is in Bath...
The only times I've lost RR internet during a power outage was when it was caused by a weather event that broke the cable as well as the power feeder. My UPS keeps the cable modem, router and VOIP interface running for quite a long time (if its going to be down for more than a few hours, I'd get the generator going!). Having a couple self-powered phones helps too!

I also have my entertainment center (DVR/TV/Receiver) on a UPS so that momentary power dropouts don't leave the equipment (especially the SA-8300HD DVR) in an "unknown" state requiring a re-boot. This used to happen much more often at my previous residence in Hamburg, NY and, before I got the UPS was a royal PITA!

So I got my tuning adapter for my TiVo HD yesterday from TW. Is there any sense in hooking this thing up yet? I'm in South Euclid, and last I checked, I'm not missing any of the channels that are supposed to be switching to SDV. I'm mostly looking at the HD sports channels (HD Sports, STO, Big 10 HD, etc).
Go ahead and set it up just to make sure its working. You should see a new setting for it in your cable card & devices menu. Check the SDV Carousel to see if those zeros are replaced by numbers. When they are you will know SDV is active.

My Tivo has likewise added the following channels to its lineup: 432, 438, 450, 452, 460, 466, 486 (& 358 last week). If I select any of them, I get an new error message "The tuning adapter is not able to provide these channels". And no sign of SDV activity on the tuning adapter. So it indeed looks like they hit the no SDV capacity yet bottleneck.

Are the Tivo's still showing the new channel #'s?

Are the Tivo's still showing the new channel #'s?

That would be a big NO.:)

That would be a big NO.:)

What? Tivo took the numbers away? Something really, really bad must be happening. I'd assume TWC contacted Tribune (or whoever supplies Tivo guide data) and told them to cut those channels.

Not that I care about TWC HD, of course. ;)

What? Tivo took the numbers away? Something really, really bad must be happening. I'd assume TWC contacted Tribune (or whoever supplies Tivo guide data) and told them to cut those channels.

Not that I care about TWC HD, of course. ;)

No, I thought he was asking if TiVo's were capable of showing the channels. Yes, they are still on the guide.

Hey nickdawg did you sign up with AT&T? I know you were thinking about it. Tell us about it if you did.

Since you follow this, nickdawg, I thought I'd let you know that newsnet5.com has rebranded thier homepage banner to "WEWS 5 ABC". That's reduced their "Newschannel 5" moniker down to their newscast branding only...

There it is:

http://www.newsnet5.com/images/structures/headers/homepage_header.jpg

Also, during Live on Five yesterday I saw bumper commercial around 5:30 that said something like: "First in Cleveland", "First in Ohio" WEWS Channel 5.

Hey nickdawg did you sign up with AT&T? I know you were thinking about it. Tell us about it if you did.

No, unfortunately. I haven't seen any of the "big ugly boxes" anywhere near my street. So I don't think it is even an option(unfortunately).

When I said I was "done" I meant it in no longer religiously reading the TWC website. No more stressing over "which SDV channel(s) are not working today".

No, unfortunately. I haven't seen any of the "big ugly boxes" anywhere near my street. So I don't think it is even an option(unfortunately).

When I said I was "done" I meant it in no longer religiously reading the TWC website. No more stressing over "which SDV channel(s) are not working today".

As much advertising as they do who the hell does get it?

Does anyone in Cleveland/Akron/Canto have it? :confused:

Had an odd and very annoying problem tonight... Watching a recorded show on my Tivo, and saw that the LED on the TWC tuning adapter started blinking. A few minutes later, up pops this "A Tuning Adapter has been found" message on the Tivo, and the two recordings in progress stopped. (Both "recording" LEDs went out.) I started up the recordings manually, and the same thing happened again about two minutes later. So now, I have a three-part CSI:New York and a three-part whatever show my wife was recording...

Not horrible since I was there and could start up the recordings again within a few seconds, but all hell will break loose in my home if this ever happens during Survivor when we're not watching TV...

Grrr... Seriously hope Tivo fixes this.... The bigger question is why did the tuning adapter lose sync (or reboot, or whatever) in the first place?

Had an odd and very annoying problem tonight... Watching a recorded show on my Tivo, and saw that the LED on the TWC tuning adapter started blinking. A few minutes later, up pops this "A Tuning Adapter has been found" message on the Tivo, and the two recordings in progress stopped. (Both "recording" LEDs went out.) I started up the recordings manually, and the same thing happened again about two minutes later. So now, I have a three-part CSI:New York and a three-part whatever show my wife was recording...

Not horrible since I was there and could start up the recordings again within a few seconds, but all hell will break loose in my home if this ever happens during Survivor when we're not watching TV...

Grrr... Seriously hope Tivo fixes this.... The bigger question is why did the tuning adapter lose sync (or reboot, or whatever) in the first place?

What makes you think its a tivo issue? It sounds to me like a TA problem.

It could also be that TW is fooling around testing SDV.

Keep in mind that TiVo does not manufacture the TA, Ciisco does. They also make those pos DVRs which do exactly what you described.

If it happens again get another TA.

Does anyone know the effect of using amplified splitters on TW cable and internet? I've used them in my house for quite sometime, even though when TW checks outside, they say the signal is strong enough. I have 5 TV's and Roadrunner hooked up.

Lately I've been getting more pixewlation and tiling on the digital/HD channels, and my internet is intermittently going off for a few minutes at a time, coming back by itself usually. Should I try unhooking the amplified splitters? That's what TW does whenever they look at my setup, but then I really notice breakups on channels. They did just rebuild our system, so maybe I don't need the amplification now, but it's a pain to rewire things.

Any ideas?

Does anyone know the effect of using amplified splitters on TW cable and internet? I've used them in my house for quite sometime, even though when TW checks outside, they say the signal is strong enough. I have 5 TV's and Roadrunner hooked up.

Lately I've been getting more pixewlation and tiling on the digital/HD channels, and my internet is intermittently going off for a few minutes at a time, coming back by itself usually. Should I try unhooking the amplified splitters? That's what TW does whenever they look at my setup, but then I really notice breakups on channels. They did just rebuild our system, so maybe I don't need the amplification now, but it's a pain to rewire things.

Any ideas?

Check the signal both on your cable box and the cable modem with and without the amplified splitters. With the cable box, do it on various channels to get a snapshot of various sections of the cable spectrum.

In general, a good signal usually means -15db to +15db on the downstream with a centered 0db being golden, at least a 35db SNR, and an upstream below 55db with lower being better.

What makes you think its a tivo issue? It sounds to me like a TA problem.

It could also be that TW is fooling around testing SDV.

Keep in mind that TiVo does not manufacture the TA, Ciisco does. They also make those pos DVRs which do exactly what you described.

If it happens again get another TA.

It's probably TWC screwing around with SDV. It's always SDV's fault. Always. ;)

And you know I'm going to disagree with the TA manufacturer being at fault. My new 8240HDC hasn't missed a recording or rebooted itself(or have I had to reboot it) in the almost two weeks I've had it. Only problem is those #^(&!$% SDV channels. But if I ignore the HD channels, my box is perfect 100% of the time. But it sounds like the SDV channels are just as unreliable on Tivo as well. :p

It's probably TWC screwing around with SDV. It's always SDV's fault. Always. ;)

And you know I'm going to disagree with the TA manufacturer being at fault. My new 8240HDC hasn't missed a recording or rebooted itself(or have I had to reboot it) in the almost two weeks I've had it. Only problem is those #^(&!$% SDV channels. But if I ignore the HD channels, my box is perfect 100% of the time. But it sounds like the SDV channels are just as unreliable on Tivo as well. :p

I shouldn't have taken a shot at Cisco, really, they are a good company. It's just I don't have faith in SARA as a software. It could however be a problem with the tuner adapter.

More then likely it's them fooling around testing SDV. I haven't seen any sign of life for SDV at all. Don't know what's holding them back.

TW started looking good for a short time at keeping their promises. They did get the tuner adapters out before the 4/9 date but they didn't deliver SDV as they said they would by that date. Then the postponed delivery of the 4/29 HD channels. I still think they got themselves in this jam by buying Adelphia.

Why did they 'postpone' the channels? I think a majority of people have SDV and thus the majority should get the new channels.

Why did they 'postpone' the channels? I think a majority of people have SDV and thus the majority should get the new channels.

First, I disagree that the "majority" have SDV. You really don't know that, your taking a guess.

But let's for the sake of argument say your correct. If you recall in the interview with Jassoe he said that they would not give out HD channels unless everybody on the TW system could get them as that wouldn't be fair for the people who don't have SDV (described as "new technology."

We don't know for sure if that's the hang up. The one person who does know, he ain't talking and he knows who he is.

First, I disagree that the "majority" have SDV. You really don't know that, your taking a guess.

But let's for the sake of argument say your correct. If you recall in the interview with Jassoe he said that they would not give out HD channels unless everybody on the TW system could get them as that wouldn't be fair for the people who don't have SDV (described as "new technology."

We don't know for sure if that's the hang up. The one person who does know, he ain't talking and he knows who he is.

I think it is a "majority" or at least enough to not be favoring one area over another. All of existing TWC, All of existing Comcast and a good portion of ex-Adelphia in northern Summit and southern Cuyahoga have SDV. Sounds like enough to start rolling out channels. But I know how Jassole is. He's trying to treat a bunch of unequal areas as 'equal'.

Maybe we should call Cheney to interrogate that 'person who knows'. LOL!!! :D:D:D

Really, I don't blame him for not talking. If CWC is just as s----y to its employees as it is to its customers, then I'll bet this person would risk losing their job if they say too much.

In general, a good signal usually means -15db to +15db on the downstream with a centered 0db being golden, at least a 35db SNR, and an upstream below 55db with lower being better.

Correct - those are the SCTE (and general industry) specs. The only difference is for HD (256 QAM) channels, where the low limit iis -12dbmv instead of -15 because of the higher modulation density.

Some of those inexpensive amplifiers can introduce distortions which can be completely invisible to a simple signal strength reading. Distortion can cause macroblocking and freezing. These errors can show up as a high number of uncorrected bytes or as a poor BER or MER.

The worst of those inexpensive rf amps can also cause problems. They're the ones with really crummy gain adjustment pots. Those pots get intermittent, causing the signal level to fluctuate erratically, which can cause all sorts of chaos in video and HSD services.

Also as a general rule, stick with RG-6 cabling with the newer compression fittings. These are the type that use a piston-style compression tool, and the finished connection forms a perfect 360-degree crimp around the braid, making for a better impedance match, reducing microreflections and keeping out ingress.

Maybe we should call Cheney to interrogate that 'person who knows'. LOL!!! :D:D:D

Still lots of work going on behind the scenes. Patience, they're busting their butts over this right now.

Now turn off that faucet. :rolleyes:

What makes you think its a tivo issue? It sounds to me like a TA problem.

It could also be that TW is fooling around testing SDV.

Oh, I agree it's likely TW fooling around... I'm just not thrilled with how the Tivo reacts to the TA rebooting or whatever it did. Canceling active recording jobs? I could understand that if it was recording SDV channels, but this was CBS.

Still lots of work going on behind the scenes. Patience, they're busting their butts over this right now.

Now turn off that faucet. :rolleyes:

The fact that they may be working their tails off doesn't excuse the lack of planning, and testing they did not do before just jumping off the ledge with a flawed SDV.

I'm not big on having like 100 channels of unnecessary HD but I do expect that TW would test something before implementing it. And now with your comment, and I can only read between the lines so much, it appears that SDV is indeed the reason that the channels were held up from April 29.

All I got to say is that when they do dump this pile of garbage into my area it better damn well work with the tuner adapter like it's suppose to, like it does for thousands of other TiVo owners across the Country. I don't want to be in a position like poor Ed is in where he has access to only the pre non SDV channels.

In 5 years I'm hoping that TiVo will once again strike a deal with D*. I understand they launched an Eastern satellite a while back perhaps I can get a signal that way. What other choice do I have except OTA?

The last two days I've had to reset my modem because the internet isn't working in the morning. What's up with that? How about a little reliability TW?

OK I'm done complaining.

The fact that they may be working their tails off doesn't excuse the lack of planning, and testing they did not do before just jumping off the ledge with a flawed SDV.

I'm not big on having like 100 channels of unnecessary HD but I do expect that TW would test something before implementing it. And now with your comment, and I can only read between the lines so much, it appears that SDV is indeed the reason that the channels were held up from April 29.

All I got to say is that when they do dump this pile of garbage into my area it better damn well work with the tuner adapter like it's suppose to, like it does for thousands of other TiVo owners across the Country. I don't want to be in a position like poor Ed is in where he has access to only the pre non SDV channels.

In 5 years I'm hoping that TiVo will once again strike a deal with D*. I understand they launched an Eastern satellite a while back perhaps I can get a signal that way. What other choice do I have except OTA?

The last two days I've had to reset my modem because the internet isn't working in the morning. What's up with that? How about a little reliability TW?

OK I'm done complaining.

OK, nickdawg! :p I hope you get what you want.

On a different note, I emailed TWC last night in optimistic hopes of finding out any info on if and when the Samsung boxes will be reaching our area.

I got the expected canned response and a link to the equipment page on the website. BUT. Of all things I do see a Samsung listed about 3 from the bottom: http://www.timewarnercable.com/northeastohio/site.faqs/Equipmenta#Digital+Cable Unfortunately it is a non-DVR HD box. So still a waiting game it seems here.

OK, nickdawg! :p I hope you get what you want.

Oh crap, that is scary isn't it?:p:p:D:D

All I got to say is that when they do dump this pile of garbage into my area it better damn well work with the tuner adapter like it's suppose to, like it does for thousands of other TiVo owners across the Country. I don't want to be in a position like poor Ed is in where he has access to only the pre non SDV channels.



Also, let the record show that SDV channels do not work, even with TWC equipment.

I get the feeling that might be why TWC has blown me of lately. They probably know it cannot be fixed that easily and thus told me a 'bucket truck' would be coming. It's been two weeks(again) and it still has not come.

In 5 years I'm hoping that TiVo will once again strike a deal with D*.


D* is projecting a Tivo option for next year:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=138443

D* is projecting a Tivo option for next year:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=138443

Cool. I heard talk about it a while back. I still would wait the 5 years minimum just because of the type of equipment I have currently.

I really liked D*.

Another thing I noticed: I dunno what exactly the culprit is here whether it's the source feed or Time Warner, but the SDV channels seem to be a bit lesser PQ than the non-SDV HD channels even though they all average out around 15mb/s equally. I can clearly tell a PQ difference between, say, Palladia, USA, or Discovery in comparison to the OTA stations, TNT, TBS, etc..

WHEN THE SDV CHANNELS WORK, I have noticed that on some of them. It pissed me off on a 2.35:1 presentation on MGM HD when the color of the letterbox bars from the source looked a bit lighter black than the bars generated by the box. Other channels have looked normal.

I see you list the channels. I wonder why USA is SDV but not TNT or TBS. And don't say "more people watch..." because USA network is 'cable's #1 network' and has the highest rated shows WWE RAW, In Plain Sight, Burn Notice, Psych, Monk. I really hope TWC is "Fair" and puts TNT and TBS on SDV eventually.

On an unrelated note: I watched In Plain Sight on Sunday night. No problems, no glitches at all. I did watch the SD channel, but there were no problems and no glitches! ;) :cool: I haven't even looked at one SDV channel in the last week and I've never been happier! :D

Also noteworthy: Today at a little after 4pm is two weeks that I have had the 8240HDC box. It also marks two weeks that it has not rebooted itself or have I had to manually reboot it. That's the best I have ever seen out of a Navigator box. (I think not tuning error-filled SDV channels helped that!)

I have TWC in Westlake and just noticed that I have Bravo, CNBC, The Learning Channel, Animal Plant, ABC Family, ESPNews and MLB in HD aka the channels that were supposed to be postponed. Does anyone else have these channels?

I have TWC in Westlake and just noticed that I have Bravo, CNBC, The Learning Channel, Animal Plant, ABC Family, ESPNews and MLB in HD aka the channels that were supposed to be postponed. Does anyone else have these channels?

Do you have a Tivo DVR or a TWC box? Also, do the channels work or is there just a guide listing for them?

Do you have a Tivo DVR or a TWC box? Also, do the channels work or is there just a guide listing for them?

I have a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD and all the channels work. I'm watching CNBCHD right now.

Can you check your diag and see if they are SDV or not?

Just checked here on my 8300HDC and even rebooted. Still nothing.

Can you check your diag and see if they are SDV or not?

Just checked here on my 8300HDC and even rebooted. Still nothing.

I rebooted the 4250HDC(not ruining my two-weeks with no reboot on the 8240HDC :D). No HD channels added. Not that I care or anything! ;)

But still interesting that he has them AND they are watchable. So crossing fingers it's coming for the rest of us.

But still interesting that he has them AND they are watchable. So crossing fingers it's coming for the rest of us.

But if they are SDV(what isn't these days) they probably won't be watchable. They'll be as bad as the rest. The people in the SARA areas(excluding Bath) are lucky as the 5 channels from 3/31 are still non-SDV.

Consider yourself lucky, hook! The glass is half full! :cool:

Can you check your diag and see if they are SDV or not?

Just checked here on my 8300HDC and even rebooted. Still nothing.

Here is a picture of my SDV Status Screen for MLB HD.

http://downpin.com/pics/Photo_050809_002.jpg

And here is a picture of MLB HD

http://downpin.com/pics/mlbhd.jpg

Hey hookbill!! Check your box or reboot it. Maybe there are changes in the ex-Adelphia areas?

I live in Avon (ex Adelphia) with a 8300HD with SARA and I have the same channels as rmanderson26! They just came in today!

Hey hookbill!! Check your box or reboot it. Maybe there are changes in the ex-Adelphia areas?


I will have an answer in about 10 minutes.

No new hd channels here. Checked the 4250 and TiVo. Bummer.

No new hd channels here. Checked the 4250 and TiVo. Bummer.

I have all HDC boxes, you have an HDC box and cable card Tivos. Maybe they "forgot" to turn on the channels for cable card viewers? I'd fire off an email to that "TWC contact" right now if I were you or if I gave a crap about new channels.

I have all HDC boxes, you have an HDC box and cable card Tivos. Maybe they "forgot" to turn on the channels for cable card viewers? I'd fire off an email to that "TWC contact" right now if I were you or if I gave a crap about new channels.

There's only one eensy thought about that theory: Even though the HDC's use cablecards, they have never gotten the same 'channel missing' or 'inaccessible' problems that seem to regularly plague Tivo/TV cablecard users.

But by all means if you wanna call, go ahead. May just be a rare case in this situation. :)

I live in Avon (ex Adelphia) with a 8300HD with SARA and I have the same channels as rmanderson26! They just came in today!

Thanks for checking in. The rest of us should be getting them soon. I'm going to reboot the 4250.

Rebooted still no channels.

Tivo in Sheffield here.

Multiple HD channels haven't been working since I got back from work.. STO, DSC, PLD, UHD, HDNET, HDNETMV, MGMHD.

Had to watch Granderson steal away an Indians victory in Standard Def :(

Anyone else having any issues?

And none of the new HD channels working here either.

There's only one eensy thought about that theory: Even though the HDC's use cablecards, they have never gotten the same 'channel missing' or 'inaccessible' problems that seem to regularly plague Tivo/TV cablecard users.

But by all means if you wanna call, go ahead. May just be a rare case in this situation. :)

I'm citing what happened on March 31. The box I used to have with MDN had the channels right away in the morning. But the OCAP box(then on ODN2) did not have the channels until later when I rebooted it. It is like TWC is running two separate systems. One for old boxes, one for cable cards.

And for the record, I have had "inaccessible" channels. Seen the "Channel currently unavailable" message on the SDV channels many times.

Tivo in Sheffield here.

Multiple HD channels haven't been working since I got back from work.. STO, DSC, PLD, UHD, HDNET, HDNETMV, MGMHD.

Had to watch Granderson steal away an Indians victory in Standard Def :(

Anyone else having any issues?

And none of the new HD channels working here either.

Sounds like another victim of the SDV plague!!

Do you have a Cisco Tuning Adapter box?

Sounds like another victim of the SDV plague!!

Do you have a Cisco Tuning Adapter box?
I do yes. Hooked it up few weeks ago.

I do yes. Hooked it up few weeks ago.

All I can say is try rebooting the TA box and the Tivo.

Hookbill, wanna chime in here? Hookbill is the Tivo expert here. :cool:

I do yes. Hooked it up few weeks ago.

I'd reboot TiVo and see what happens.

I fired off an email about us not having channels and told them I know other ex Adelphia areas that have them.

They are now asking for a friggin pin number or the last 4 of your social just to send an email!!!

Going upstairs to watch Dodgers. Will follow you guys via blackberry if anything happens I'll let you know.

I fired off an email about us not having channels and told them I know other ex Adelphia areas that have them.

They are now asking for a friggin pin number or the last 4 of your social just to send an email!!!

Going upstairs to watch Dodgers. Will follow you guys via blackberry if anything happens I'll let you know.

I noticed the same thing. 'Tis why I only manually email twcable@neo.rr.com instead of going through the website. ;) Still seems to end up in the same place and get the same response, but without the garbage.

I rebooted the 4250HDC, no new channels in Akron. So much for that...

I think that we all will have the channels by tomorrow. The guy who sent the screen shots is not SDV. Don't know why the delay at head end in our area.

My email is flashing. Maybe TW.

I have a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD and all the channels work. I'm watching CNBCHD right now.

I live in Avon (ex Adelphia) with a 8300HD with SARA and I have the same channels as rmanderson26! They just came in today!

Tivo in Sheffield here.

Multiple HD channels haven't been working since I got back from work.. STO, DSC, PLD, UHD, HDNET, HDNETMV, MGMHD.

Had to watch Granderson steal away an Indians victory in Standard Def :(

Anyone else having any issues?

And none of the new HD channels working here either.

the interesting part is all three are served from the same headend

FWIW, the new channels haven't hit the former Comcast West zone yet
Oh how unfair;)

I think that we all will have the channels by tomorrow. The guy who sent the screen shots is not SDV. Don't know why the delay at head end in our area.

My email is flashing. Maybe TW.

Yes it is SDV. Did you not see the "Active" on the left side of the screen? Plus there is(I believe) 573-which is a SDV frequency.

Ass channels on a Saturday? :eek: You're joking, right?

Also, was it TWC??

Are all these people with the new HD channels on the west side? I just checked with a girl on twitter to see if she got the new channels and she confirmed she had them.

Yes it is SDV. Did you not see the "Active" on the left side of the screen? Plus there is(I believe) 573-which is a SDV frequency.

Ass channels on a Saturday? :eek: You're joking, right?

Also, was it TWC??
I saw it said idle also and there were zeros where there should have been numbers. However if the Tivo guy is on the same head end you are right. But I gotta tell you that looked like my. 4250 screen and I know I don't have SDV.

Response I got from TW was a bs answer, we understand you want channels from 4/29, request is being escalated blah blah

Response I got from TW was a bs answer, we understand you want channels from 4/29, request is being escalated blah blah

Seriously? "The request is being escalated"? Oooohhh, better call Jack Bauer before this gets to be a Level 5, Code red Stage 4 disaster!! :p:p:p:p:p

I want to know why areas that just got SDV have the channels and areas that have had SDV are left in the dark. Not that I give a ratsass, considering the damn channels probably wouldn't work for me anyway! :mad::mad::mad:

Hook, I think it is time to contact your REAL TWC person, not the system the peasants must use! :rolleyes: ;)

Seriously? "The request is being escalated"? Oooohhh, better call Jack Bauer before this gets to be a Level 5, Code red Stage 4 disaster!! :p:p:p:p:p

I want to know why areas that just got SDV have the channels and areas that have had SDV are left in the dark. Not that I give a ratsass, considering the damn channels probably wouldn't work for me anyway! :mad::mad::mad:

Hook, I think it is time to contact your REAL TWC person, not the system the peasants must use! :rolleyes: ;)
I'm gonn give the weekend. If e don't have it by Sunday I will do my own escalation.

Thank you Crime Warner and fxck you Crime Warner!!! Right now as I am about to go to bed, both of my boxes reboot. Being an stupid moron I decide to check if there are any new channels. The channels are there, except EVERYTHING says "Unavailable" and "Press A". Which did nothing at all. After flipping through the channels it was even more messed up. Even 3 no longer worked, where the box rebooted AGAIN!!

Take your SDV and SHOVE IT!!! This box worked perfectly for TWO WEEKS when I avoided every channel in the 400s range. Just by going to those channels it turned into a piece of crap after less than ten minutes!! Tomorrow I call CWC and tell them I want EVERY channel between 400 and 499 SHUT OFF and I want the charge for those channels removed from my bill!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

just got the channels also..tlc and mlb just black screen with audio.. others are working fine

Sounds like your headend is pretty lousy nickdawg if you are having so many problems. Should realise by now SDV varies between each headend/neighborhood. Just sounds like you need to be more agressive in getting something done. ;)

I mean, we have you area which has crappy SDV services even though you have eliminated the incoming signal as a problem, ex-adelphia/comcast territory is still AWOL, and in these parts it is working just awesomely. And then we have tonight's exhibition where the newer channels appear to be showing up in waves across the region.

(Edit: Haven't checked my 8300HDC yet since my brother is hogging that tv. But will check and update within the next half hour or so.)

Now there's frozen/breaking up picture and cutting in and out sound on all the channels.

Anyone want a free HD set? I think I know where you'll find one on the curb next week! :veryevilsmiley:

having same problem with animal planet and a couple others..freezing..havent had any problems what so ever before these channels just arrived..well see what happens... anybody else just have a black screen with audio on mlb and tlc

having same problem with animal planet and a couple others..freezing..havent had any problems what so ever before these channels just arrived..well see what happens... anybody else just have a black screen with audio on mlb and tlc

Are you former Adelphia or Comcast? If so, it's probably because TWC just activated SDV = Switch Digital Video in your area. Other than being the worst invention in the history of man kind, SDV is a way for cable companies to "cheat" and add more channels on the same amount of bandwidth they already have.

See kids, this is why cheating is wrong! :p

S D V = EPIC FAIL!!

(ooohhh, I'm so excited!! I get to use LOL Cats and Failblog pictures here! :D)

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This is what is going on behind the scenes on TWC's computer!!

http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/double_fail.jpeg

:D:D:D

http://www.readthesmiths.com/articles/Images/Humor/Fail/1FAIL.jpg

former adelphia..i thought we had sdv already but im a newbie about it..

former adelphia..i thought we had sdv already but im a newbie about it..

Are you Adelphia in Northern Summit County/Southern Cuyahoga or another part of the system? Before today, the only Adelphia areas that had SDV were ones with the headend in Bath (Northern Summit/ parts of Cuyahoga).

It was supposed to happen all the way back on April 9th but as usual with TWC it was delayed. A letter was sent to Tivo owners back then. You've come to the right place. We have plenty of people "in the know" here.


(Edit: Haven't checked my 8300HDC yet since my brother is hogging that tv. But will check and update within the next half hour or so.)

Are those channels working in your area?

Edit: I left it on FAMHD for about 15 minutes and it just stopped. Black screen with no picture/sound.

Right about now I'm really wishing there were some grounds for a lawsuit to be filed that would bring SDV to a screeching halt, just like what happened in Hawaii. But too bad TWC has their butts covered this time and everyone has a TA.

If sucky service were enough justification for a lawsuit, TWC would be in court every day.

nope another part....o man ill update tomorrow with all the problems lol..so far its a mess, was flawless before these new channels rolled in..nickdawg can u try animal planet it freezes for me every 5 minutes..others arent doing that

nope another part....o man ill update tomorrow with all the problems lol..so far its a mess, was flawless before these new channels rolled in

It was exactly the same here. What pissed me off the most was my PAY CHANNELS (470-473) are a part of this SDV garbage. So now I PAY $6 a month for unwatchable channels. Plus all of our bills went up to fund this crap project.

hey nickdawg do you know which channels are sdv, so i can test the right ones

Just checked mine and it says it was rebooted about 3:08 and the new channels are added. All but MLB and TLC work great. Those, indeed, have a black screen and audio. And it seems like the video is missing entirely because the box stays at the previous channel resolution even coming from 480i.

I didn't look too hard but I couldn't find CNBCHD right away. Probably skipped over it though.

Bravo has Wargames on though at 8AM so I'm setting that to record and see how well it survives.

vchat did you try animal planet..every couple minutes it freezes and stays that way unless i change it then turn it then back on

Ok. They put CNBCHD WAY up there on 486 where I didn't look.

Animal Planet looks just fine after a couple minutes. no dropouts or glitches of any kind.
CNBCHD the same as APL. Looks perfect.
BravoHD the same.
ABCFAM the same.
TLC, as above, is blank.
MLBHD is blank too.

Also looks like the SDV freq. list in Navigator is stale. Still reads just 585 and 573, but I am also seeing 603 and 597 for starters (may be more slots depending on factors.)

I should also add the anecdote that we get a lot of activity out of the SDV channels around here. STOHD is watched almost religiously during every indians game, USAHD has a buttload of shows recorded, Discovery as well now that a number of shows have come back into fresh airings, Palladia always has it's 3AM-6AM 'HD Videos' slot recorded every morning, and my brother has a few toons on Disney on a series recording new/repeat. Except for very small glitches which would show on any other channel, I have had 0 issues with SDV since it was given to us here. Nor have I had issues with this HDC box or anything else.

Maybe I'm just getting some special treatment from TWC that I don't know about? :p

I'm not ready to get up yet but I can tell you that we still do not have SDV. I am getting MLB RXTRA INNINGS and I still have nothing but zeros on the SDV CAROUSEL.

Nio sign of the new channels on TIVO. STO is coming in.. I will check 4250. Later.

OK, as far as the information on the screen shot that we received, my SDV page also shows active but what we need to see to find out if it is truly active is the SDV Carousel. That shows if any activity is on. Other then that, the true status is simply "ready".

No signs of SDV on the 4250, no sign of any new HD channels, either by inputting directly or on the guide.

We simply don't have it yet.:mad:

And yes, I'm upset because I want the channels but not at the price of getting them but not receiving them and screwing up everything else in the process.

having same problem with animal planet and a couple others..freezing..havent had any problems what so ever before these channels just arrived..well see what happens... anybody else just have a black screen with audio on mlb and tlc

New posters when you check in with us kindly let us know what area you are calling from, that's pretty vital information at this point.:)

I myself live in Bainbridge and my service comes out of the Concord head end.

up and running in Erie Pa this morning.

My turn to report in: I'm getting all the new HD channels with not a single glitch I can see tuning around. Particularly welcome here are MLBHD and ESPNNews HD. They look great.

CNBC HD is indeed up there high (486) but is working fine, though I didn't stay around long...they're in infomercials on Saturday mornings, in glorious SD. :D

Of course, I established long ago that SDV was active here. I'm in western Summit County being fed out of the Bath headend. As far as I know, that services Bath/Richfield/Copley/former Northampton Twp. and nearby areas.

having same problem with animal planet and a couple others..freezing..havent had any problems what so ever before these channels just arrived..well see what happens... anybody else just have a black screen with audio on mlb and tlc

This sounds exactly like the problems I saw when they first took the Bath headend into SDV a few weeks ago. Those problems lasted a week or two, then eventually cleared up, and all is fine now.

BTW, where are you in the ex-Adelphia system? Everyone who reports the channel additions here, please tell us what area you're in, and if you're ex-Adelphia, ex-Comcast or legacy TWC...

New posters when you check in with us kindly let us know what area you are calling from, that's pretty vital information at this point.:)

I myself live in Bainbridge and my service comes out of the Concord head end.

Odd that you live nowhere near nickdawg, but you're both not seeing the channels, and folks from Westlake to Erie are getting them. :D

It's almost like TWC has a list... heh!

Odd that you live nowhere near nickdawg, but you're both not seeing the channels, and folks from Westlake to Erie are getting them. :D

It's almost like TWC has a list... heh!

So you're suggesting nickdawg and I are on TW's s**t list?:D

I wouldn't be surprised. Nickdawg is getting the channels, he just can't see them :)

I fired off an email asking for an explanation last night. My request was "escalated."

I fired off an email asking for an explanation last night. My request was "escalated."

Hopefully, we'll find out more, soon. Even if you and nickdawg are in the "fix these last" list. :D :D

I was on the "add this first" list. TWC must like me. Maybe if nickdawg drops the "Crime Warner Cable" line, his HD channels will start working!!!

Heh heh.

Getting the new HD channels in Akron as well with TiVo.

Apparently I am suppose to be getting the new channels, so I don't know whats up with that. A tech is scheduled to come out today, yes today, between 4 and 6 pm.

Having done all of that I will now try my contact at TW and see if she can't fix it for me, if there is anything to be fixed.

Ohio Media Watch is reporting the channels are available. Everyone in the area has them but hook!!!!

http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com/2009/05/twcs-next-hd-wave.html

None of my neighbors are cable people so I can't ask them.

hookbill, you mentioned above...did they tell you that you were supposed to have them?

Let us know how the tech visit goes. :D Are they coming on the way from nickdawg's place??

Ohio Media Watch is reporting the channels are available. Everyone in the area has them but hook!!!!

Quoting that link:

OMW hears that though the new HD channels are indeed rolling out, some TWC Northeast Ohio subscribers may not have them yet.

We're told that the launch is indeed, as we've already speculated on our own, linked to the rollout of Switched Digital Video (SDV) throughout Time Warner Cable's local system...and when your local headend does implement SDV, the new channels will be seen.

Quoting that link:

That explains it.

hookbill, you mentioned above...did they tell you that you were supposed to have them?

Let us know how the tech visit goes. :D Are they coming on the way from nickdawg's place??

Well, I got a call in now about my modem going out 3 or 4 times a day now. Waiting for a call back on that, should get that soon. Then I'll try to talk to them about SDV, Lord, who knows how that will go.

In addition, I put in a call with my contact at head end. But it's the SDV thing, I had a feeling that was why I wasn't getting them. Bummer.

Are so untrained it's pathetic. I called to get an appointment for my internet because my modem keeps crashing and she says she see's I have an appointment for my television. I say yes but I don't have SDV yet so that's why I'm not getting the channels.

Dead silence. She has no idea of what I'm talking about. Finally she says, well he's coming out anyway so he can look at your modem too.

Huh, I thought they had internet techs and cable tv techs. Now 1 tech does all?

Then after I told her I already have digital phone service she still tried to sell me TW's.

So I'm keeping my appointment. This should be interesting. I will let you guys know how it goes.

If the internet is working that is.:D

So I'm keeping my appointment. This should be interesting. I will let you guys know how it goes.

If the internet is working that is.:D

Bad news, hook...you can only have one at a time. If they fix SDV, you'll lose the Internet!


:D :D

(Relax. I'm pretty sure that's just a joke...)

hookbill i am in sharon pa area, also mlb and tlc are active with no black screen anymore. I will test them out some more and see if the problems are gone today


update: still some problems on animal and now bravo was freezing up also..hopefully the problems go away as they did for you inundated

Bad news, hook...you can only have one at a time. If they fix SDV, you'll lose the Internet!


:D :D

(Relax. I'm pretty sure that's just a joke...)

Gotcha....Funny guy.:)

Reminds me of something that happened on the crackberry forum, very similar.

So I'm keeping my appointment. This should be interesting. I will let you guys know how it goes.

Depending on the type of modem you have, you might be able to go to it's diagnostic page and see if it's been rebooting and why. It's often at 192.168.100.1

If it hasn't been flapping and you're not sure what's wrong, make sure you don't have a virus. The Vundo virus has been extremely common lately. You can find a good, free virus scanner at malwarebytes.org

Depending on the type of modem you have, you might be able to go to it's diagnostic page and see if it's been rebooting and why. It's often at 192.168.100.1

If it hasn't been flapping and you're not sure what's wrong, make sure you don't have a virus. The Vundo virus has been extremely common lately. You can find a good, free virus scanner at malwarebytes.org

I highly doubt it''s malware or a virus. I have virus protection on my PC's (Zone Alarm) and I work off a mac.

I have no idea how to get into the diagnostic page of my modem, even with the address you gave me. Modem is a webstar. I never had a problem with Adelphias Modem.

I highly doubt it''s malware or a virus. I have virus protection on my PC's (Zone Alarm) and I work off a mac.
Might be worth an occasional checkup with something like the malwarebytes tool Cathode Kid mentioned. Zone Alarm's not known for being 'thorough'. Strictly speaking, I only trust Avast and Avira to catch the most virii these days out of all the AV vendors. And both are completely free.

I have no idea how to get into the diagnostic page of my modem, even with the address you gave me. Modem is a webstar. I never had a problem with Adelphias Modem.

Just pop it into your web browser: http://192.168.100.1/ and you get signal info, logs if anything shows up, your sync-rate, etc..
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4417/webstar.th.png (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=webstar.png)

Might be worth an occasional checkup with something like the malwarebytes tool Cathode Kid mentioned. Zone Alarm's not known for being 'thorough'. Strictly speaking, I only trust Avast and Avira to catch the most virii these days out of all the AV vendors. And both are completely free.



Just pop it into your web browser: http://192.168.100.1/ and you get signal info, logs if anything shows up, your sync-rate, etc..
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4417/webstar.th.png (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=webstar.png)

I have Zone Alarm Security Suite which is recommended and tested at Gibson Research. It has past every test they have, you'd never convince me that Zone Alarm isn't the best security out there.

On my Mac's PC I have McAfee Secuity Suite. One of my PC's is just a back up but it's protected by AVG. It doesn't go anywhere on the internet except to check in with Windows for updates.

I clicked on the link but it would not let me get into the log part of it, said contact your provider, lol, it's like their diagnostic page they don't want you in.

This guy should show up in the next couple of hours. I'll let him worry about it. When I called customer service she did say she was getting an error message, I don't know if they cleaned it up or not but I haven't had a problem since then. That was not too long ago however.

Gibson's a sensationalist hack. 90% of the garbage on his site is him talking out his ass. His tools are ok (I swear by Spinrite when I have a sketchy drive to deal with and shields up is a quick and easy way to check for open ports if you ignore the OMG PORT 9876 IS OPEN, YOU ARE DOOMED warnings), but his 'research' should be taken with a huge friggin' salt lick.

As for the modem, try going here: http://192.168.100.1/_aslvl.asp and set it to level 2 with the password 'W2402' (subsequent login window use the same pass with the username 'admin') and then try the log tab again. At least check things for yourself before the tech decides to muck with it all. ;)

Gibson's a sensationalist hack. 90% of the garbage on his site is him talking out his ass. His tools are ok (I swear by Spinrite when I have a sketchy drive to deal with and shields up is a quick and easy way to check for open ports if you ignore the OMG PORT 9876 IS OPEN, YOU ARE DOOMED warnings), but his 'research' should be taken with a huge friggin' salt lick.

As for the modem, try going here: http://192.168.100.1/_aslvl.asp and set it to level 2 with the password 'W2402' (subsequent login window use the same pass with the username 'admin') and then try the log tab again. At least check things for yourself before the tech decides to muck with it all. ;)

lol, thanks for the pw this feature "not enabled." So I guess I can't do anything with it.

It will be interesting to see what this tech does. I'll question him on SDV before I let him upstairs. I really think whatever the problem was with the modem may have been cleared up by Customer Service but only time will tell.

If I do let him get near a box it will be the 4250, since that's their equipment. Outside of the modem issue this is pretty much a waste of time as far as I'm concerned. I know now the reason I don't have the channels. If I got the channels on the 4250 and not on the TiVo's that be another issue.

My contact at TW has not called me back, I don't even know if she is working today. She has called in the past on Saturdays.
Thanks for looking out for me.

Well, he came and went. Did nothing about my modem, he is assuming that the girl did a reset. Went through the channel line up and said "Your getting everything your suppose to get." So I walked him and showed him Ohio Media Watch's page and told him that people are reporting in all around me that they have the new channels. I asked flat on out if it was SDV and believe me, he did not know what I was talking about. So I walked him over to my TiVo and showed him the guide. That's when he put it together and said, "yeah your area isn't on the switching system. You won't get those channels." So I asked him if he had any idea when they were going to launch in this area and he said mid June.

I didn't laugh at him.

Anyway that was a nice waste of about 30 minutes for him and me both.

TW to Hook: You listen hear, mister, you will get your HD channels when we get good and ready to give them to you.

anybody else just getting a black screen on all the new channels?

anybody else just getting a black screen on all the new channels?

I can only tune to them on my TiVo and my screen is grey. That's because I don't get them at all.

Well, he came and went. Did nothing about my modem, he is assuming that the girl did a reset. Went through the channel line up and said "Your getting everything your suppose to get." So I walked him and showed him Ohio Media Watch's page and told him that people are reporting in all around me that they have the new channels. I asked flat on out if it was SDV and believe me, he did not know what I was talking about. So I walked him over to my TiVo and showed him the guide. That's when he put it together and said, "yeah your area isn't on the switching system. You won't get those channels." So I asked him if he had any idea when they were going to launch in this area and he said mid June.

I didn't laugh at him.

Anyway that was a nice waste of about 30 minutes for him and me both.

TW to Hook: You listen hear, mister, you will get your HD channels when we get good and ready to give them to you.

I hate to say this Hook, but I noticed something on TWC's Programming Notice page:

On or after May 26, 2009, the following services will be added to standard HD in some areas: Golf Channel, CNN, FX, Fox News Network, Science Channel

On or after May 26, 2009, the following services will be added to HD in some areas for customers with the Digital Basic Tier: National Geographic.

On or after May 27, 2009 the following services will be added to HD Tier in some areas: Smithsonian & Mav TV.

On or after June 15, 2009, the following services will be added to standard HD in some areas: Lifetime Moves, Travel, AMC.

On or after June 15, 2009, the following services will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Basic Tier in some areas: Versus, Speed and ESPNU.

On or after June 15, 2009, the following services will be added to HD for customers with MLB Extra Innings Package in some areas: Game HD.

They say right there, "in some areas". I guess that is an ass cover for situations like this. "Some areas" will be getting the new channels. Sorry hook.

anybody else just getting a black screen on all the new channels?

I am. All I have on all of them is sound. Black screen all the time and sound that cuts out occasionally.

I hate to say this Hook, but I noticed something on TWC's Programming Notice page:

On or after May 26, 2009, the following services will be added to standard HD in some areas: Golf Channel, CNN, FX, Fox News Network, Science Channel

On or after May 26, 2009, the following services will be added to HD in some areas for customers with the Digital Basic Tier: National Geographic.

On or after May 27, 2009 the following services will be added to HD Tier in some areas: Smithsonian & Mav TV.

On or after June 15, 2009, the following services will be added to standard HD in some areas: Lifetime Moves, Travel, AMC.

On or after June 15, 2009, the following services will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Basic Tier in some areas: Versus, Speed and ESPNU.

On or after June 15, 2009, the following services will be added to HD for customers with MLB Extra Innings Package in some areas: Game HD.

They say right there, "in some areas". I guess that is an ass cover for situations like this. "Some areas" will be getting the new channels. Sorry hook.

True, but that's not what Mr. Jassoe told OMW. But hey, it's in writing so too bad, so sad.

I'd rather not be getting them at all then just the sound only.:D;)

Hey the guy told me "when they first released that stuff (SDV) it caused all kinds of problems so I don't think they want to release it until they worked it out." Fine, seeing as some people are having problems and some arn't I'll wait. He said they just covered that in a meeting last week. Basically everybody on the Concord head end isn't getting it if you want to believe what he told me.

True, but that's not what Mr. Jassoe told OMW. But hey, it's in writing so too bad, so sad.

I'd rather not be getting them at all then just the sound only.:D;)

Sure. :rolleyes:

Hey the guy told me "when they first released that stuff (SDV) it caused all kinds of problems so I don't think they want to release it until they worked it out." Fine, seeing as some people are having problems and some arn't I'll wait. He said they just covered that in a meeting last week. Basically everybody on the Concord head end isn't getting it if you want to believe what he told me.

I think the TWC person might be right(for once). This SDV thing has been nothing but a mess ever since it began.

So. do you think I should start calling TWC or should I just ignore this 'problem' like the last batch of channels?? :confused:

So. do you think I should start calling TWC or should I just ignore this 'problem' like the last batch of channels?? :confused:

If I were you I wouldn't be in this situation. I'd of fired off that email over a month ago to Steve Fry about the bull pucky you've had to deal with.

Hell yes, call somebody. You're suppose to get those channels.

Like I have said from the beginning: Gather up all your info on the situation, keep calling and bugging them and try to escalate the issue. Same goes for anyone else with the issue especially if it is in the same area. Get the issue on their radar already.

Hey Hook, I was watching a show on Animal Planet(analog of course ;)) and there was a dancing bird!! And a water skiing squirrel!!

I have no idea how to get into the diagnostic page of my modem, even with the address you gave me. Modem is a webstar. I never had a problem with Adelphias Modem.

You can type that IP address right into the url bar of your browser as if it was a website name. In other words, http://192.168.100.1

You can type that IP address right into the url bar of your browser as if it was a website name. In other words, http://192.168.100.1

Thanks Vchat stepped me through it. Diagnostics were not available even with a password.

Leave it to TW to implement something that doesn't work. And when it does, the picture freezes and moter boats. Signal level and S/N is excellent. If this is what I am to expect, I can see people flocking to Direct TV by the droves. What they should do is give every customer a digital box and get rid of the analog multi cast channels and free up some bandwidth. Currently this service is unacceptable.

At least we're not missing anything with these channels. The two that suck the most are CNBC and ESPN News. CNBC had nothing but infomercials and Suzzy Orman---in SD. ESPN News is a total waste, it's a glorified barker channel. They could show that at 480i widescreen and it would not make a difference. What a waste of HD. You think they could have given us a REAL sports channel that shows sports in HD, like ESPNU or Speed HD. Not some fantasy football person's wet dream of statistics! I'll bet CNBC is equally pointless when I see what they have Monday.

And MLB gets a LAME tonight. They're showing the same game as FSN "HD" in primetime. The same game is listed on THREE channels in a row!! So much for more HD(at least tonight).

At least we're not missing anything with these channels. The two that suck the most are CNBC and ESPN News. CNBC had nothing but infomercials and Suzzy Orman---in SD. ESPN News is a total waste, it's a glorified barker channel. They could show that at 480i widescreen and it would not make a difference. What a waste of HD. You think they could have given us a REAL sports channel that shows sports in HD, like ESPNU or Speed HD. Not some fantasy football person's wet dream of statistics! I'll bet CNBC is equally pointless when I see what they have Monday.

And MLB gets a LAME tonight. They're showing the same game as FSN "HD" in primetime. The same game is listed on THREE channels in a row!! So much for more HD(at least tonight).

MLBnet always shows stuff that's on other networks, I'm not surprised its on FSNHD. By the way how are you feeling about SDV these days?:D

MLBnet always shows stuff that's on other networks, I'm not surprised its on FSNHD. By the way how are you feeling about SDV these days?:D

I was hoping for a different game, like an Extra Innings thing, but on one channel.

I hate it. I'd rather have 10 HD channels that work than all of this trash that doesn't work.

I don't hate SDV as much as you will once it starts in your area and they put MLB Extra Innings channels on SDV!!! You $100+ pay channels becoming a victim of SDV. We'll hear the screaming across town. ;)

I was hoping for a different game, like an Extra Innings thing, but on one channel.

I hate it. I'd rather have 10 HD channels that work than all of this trash that doesn't work.

I don't hate SDV as much as you will once it starts in your area and they put MLB Extra Innings channels on SDV!!! You $100+ pay channels becoming a victim of SDV. We'll hear the screaming across town. ;)

I see it going 50/50. I've never had a good feeling about SDV but who knows. I already know there are only a couple that I'm interested in. Time will tell.

I see it going 50/50. I've never had a good feeling about SDV but who knows. I already know there are only a couple that I'm interested in. Time will tell.

...and the ones you are interested in will be on SDV!! I want USA, F/X, Universal HD, STO and Discovery. Those are all SDV. I don't give a rats ass about HGTV, A&E, Big Ten, FSN HD, TNT, TBS and those are all non-SDV.

Plus I've heard good things about SDV. Others have said "you can't even tell which channels are SDV". Yeah right!! I can tell by which ones don't work!!

...and the ones you are interested in will be on SDV!! I want USA, F/X, Universal HD, STO and Discovery. Those are all SDV. I don't give a rats ass about HGTV, A&E, Big Ten, FSN HD, TNT, TBS and those are all non-SDV.

Plus I've heard good things about SDV. Others have said "you can't even tell which channels are SDV". Yeah right!! I can tell by which ones don't work!!

You're missing my point. Not everybody is having a problem with SDV including TiVo people. Fact is that more people will come here to complain then those who don't have issues.

There is a good chance I won't have a problem. And there is a chance I won't hence I say time will tell.

the only ones not working for me are the newly released channels except for espnews..rest are just black...but dont have any problems with the previous ones whatsoever..so nickdawg all of yours dont work? why the hell are you staying with timewarner lol..id be gone

Also, whatever is wrong with the black screen channels is TWC'S FAULT. I pulled diagnostics, and the new channels with the problems are on 573.000MHz. Other channels like UHD, HD Net, USA are also on 573.000MHz and have no problems at all. Something is wrong with these new channels from the source(TWC).