The only channel I'm having trouble with the "Start Over" feature and audio is TNT HD.
Weird -- When I tune into TNT HD, 'Start Over' isn't being offered to me.

Weird -- When I tune into TNT HD, 'Start Over' isn't being offered to me.

It is only offered on certain programs on TNT HD and Disney HD and maybe some other channels.

I've never seen Start Over on a HD channel before. It must still be in testing phase if they are offering it on HGTV HD. That's the only reason I could see them wasting Start Over on a crap channel like that.

I've never seen Start Over on a HD channel before. It must still be in testing phase if they are offering it on HGTV HD. That's the only reason I could see them wasting Start Over on a crap channel like that.

We have it on Food HD and H&G HD most of the time and TNT HD, TBS HD, and Disney HD only sometimes.

We have it on Food HD and H&G HD most of the time and TNT HD, TBS HD, and Disney HD only sometimes.
It seems the only channels/programs offering start-over are the ones available via OnDemand. I wonder if there is a real correlation there or if its just a coincidence...?

I too was going through the OnDemand offerings yesterday (what better to do when the Browns are playing!?) and noticed it was much more responsive than in the past.

It seems the only channels/programs offering start-over are the ones available via OnDemand. I wonder if there is a real correlation there or if its just a coincidence...?

I too was going through the OnDemand offerings yesterday (what better to do when the Browns are playing!?) and noticed it was much more responsive than in the past.

I think there is a correlation since the StartOver works using the same technology as OnDemand. Has to be. You probably won't find any of the big 4 (or 5 if you count CW) networks available on this.

I think there is a correlation since the StartOver works using the same technology as OnDemand. Has to be. You probably won't find any of the big 4 (or 5 if you count CW) networks available on this.

CBS and NBC have VOD content as well as USA.

It still looks like TWC is making some odd choices out of the VOD/Start Over pool.

Why? Do that many people actually watch the effing HGTV or Food channel? :mad:

CBS and NBC have VOD content as well as USA.

It still looks like TWC is making some odd choices out of the VOD/Start Over pool.

Why? Do that many people actually watch the effing HGTV or Food channel? :mad:

I know you and I wouldn't watch those channels but there are plenty of people who do watch them.

Food Network HD and startover I just found more time to waste. I love watching Good Eats

Wow TW sent me a birthday card. Well, it was a card. And on the card it says that my cable card rate is going up from 2.54 to 2.90.

Man can they nickle and dime or what?

I received a letter from TWC yesterday stating that they're raising my Internet service rate from $34.95 to $39.95 effective November 24th. It looks like it's time to check AT&T's rates for DSL service.

I love the way they got to me sign up for their 2 year contract, only to send me a letter 6 months later letting me know of increases to my bill.. When confronted with breach of contract.. they let me out, and I then cancelled half of my services.. I am now a magicjack man with no pay channels and a single DVR.. Great business model TWC! I'm glad you have added all of the HD channels which North Ridgeville still doesen't have, and you can't tell me when we will have them... and the restart or whatever it's called... service.. good luck! 8mb cable.. I'm lucky to get 2mb. When confronted with the speed issue.. they do a speedtest to a TWC speedtest server on the same subnet which always tests at full speed.. TWC is a bunch of hacks! believe it or not i don't love complaining..... I'm just so sick of paying so much for so little... we NEED competition in Northeast Ohio!

Check out this link. http://www.com.ohio.gov/admn/vsa/

Cable is regulated by the state. You would need to complain to them about your concerns.

This regulation by the way was pushed through in a joint effort by your friends at AT&T and Time Warner Cable.:rolleyes:


I have, and I have been in touch with AT&T.. they have no infrastructure in Lorain County, and have no intentions to put any in, so the only option other then TWC is the Local telcos.. centurytel, windstream, etc.. All of which suck. I have finally figured out a way to get good service... Move!

I have, and I have been in touch with AT&T.. they have no infrastructure in Lorain County, and have no intentions to put any in, so the only option other then TWC is the Local telcos.. centurytel, windstream, etc.. All of which suck. I have finally figured out a way to get good service... Move!

No, you could get Satellite. I would if I didn't have so many trees. Your internet, that's another story.

TW sucks. All cable companies do.

I was suprised when I tuned to the Cavs game and I was offered Startover! Pretty cool.

to everyone who says they can't and don't know what Nickdawg is talking about,

If you have a widescreen tv with digital turner, tune to WBNX-TV channel 55's HD station while they
are showing "The Office".

I think that's the type of thing he's talking about.

Make sure you're tuned to their HD channel instead of the digital SD chammel on cable.

I was suprised when I tuned to the Cavs game and I was offered Startover! Pretty cool.

I was also suprised to see it. I didnt' try it but I am sure the cavs would have liked to hit that button and start over again starting at the 3rd quarter..

Was suprised to see it on a live event.

Oh Gawd. nickdawg is drawing a fan base.:D:p:D

Oh Gawd. nickdawg is drawing a fan base.:D:p:D

What's wrong with that? Letterbox is straight out of hell and I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't appreciate having half of their TV screen wasted with an improperly displayed picture. :D

I just called to cancile the $5.00 extra HD Tier of channels that are now from 496 to 499..

I use to enjoy HDNet but now there is nothing I really watch on the 4 channels offered

When I called I spent about 3 or 4 mins fighting with the lady when I asked for those channels to be taken off.

First it wasn't on my bill...then it was...then she told me the channels I am talking about show up in the 470, 471, 472 and 473 area..I said no they been moved to the upper 490's..she said you are wrong I have no idea what you are talking about. I said I dont' have 471, 472 and 473..I told her I have the TV on and looking at the channels..

Then I asked..what channels am I getting for the $5.00 and she read off the ones from the upper 490's...and I told her ok..please take those off as I dont' want to pay for them anymore..

Ok bye.....

WOW..you would think they would have the latest list of channel locations

I was going to ask her about any new HD channels coming down the pike..but I didn't want to spend another 10mins on the phone ..with her saying, you been getting 5 or 6 channels every month since May.stop bitching..lol

sometime you get a call back after you deal with TW for a review of your service..

Normally I say good things..but this is one of the times I wouldn't...part her fault not having the correct infromation infront of her and another would be her attitude..

I can deal with wrong information..(garbage in..garbage out)..but when you are dealing with people you better be in a good mood all the time..

Oh well..just some TW Venting..

PS..any idea what coming in HD in November ??

PS..any idea what coming in HD in November ??

MSNBC ON 11/4 per Cathode Kid.

MSNBC ON 11/4 per Cathode Kid.

Cathode Kid is a clairvoyant so it has to be true. :p

MSNBC ON 11/4 per Cathode Kid.

if he is wrong you will see him saturday at his church going to confession and the priest might ban him for 2 weeks from posting on this forum

Yeah right, me and my three supermodel girlfriends will be watching MSNBC HD on TWC on November 4th!! :p

Here's what's really coming on November 4th:

The following changes are planned on or after November 4, 2009:

The Weather Channel HD will be added to standard HD.

The following channels will be added to HD with carriage level varying by area: WE HD and TV One HD.

The following channels will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Basic Tier: Planet Green HD, IFC HD and Fuse HD.

The following channels will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Sports Tier: NHL Network HD, Tennis Channel HD and CBS College Sports HD.

Nothin but a bunch of crap.

I think I posted this before but I wonder what HD channels are left out there to be added..

Other then MSNBC..are there really any quality HD channels missing.

As most know I am from Erie Pa Market and the big thing on the Erie forum..is that TW Offers Fox Ohio and Fox Pittsburgh..but when it comes to HD we only get Fox Ohio and just for Cavs game and people are upset that they can't add Fox Pitt in HD for Pirates and Pens games..(I am a cleveland fan but Fox Pitt should be availble in HD)

people have written e-mails to Mr Frye his reply was we are working on it. Someone called the offices of Fox Pitt and were told since erie has standard Fox Pitt then getting it in HD shouldn't be a problem.but still havent' gotten it.

So TW is screwing around people all over in the NE Ohio and NW PA Markets with HD options..

Hey Time Warner we are still waiting, not patiently, in Amherst!

Second Amherst - what a ridiculous wait!


Hey Time Warner we are still waiting, not patiently, in Amherst!

I haven't checked in the past few days to see if we have NBA TV but there was a story about a contract with cable companies, including TWC, to increase distribution. The article said it would be on TWC digital basic. Is it there yet?

I haven't checked in the past few days to see if we have NBA TV but there was a story about a contract with cable companies, including TWC, to increase distribution. The article said it would be on TWC digital basic. Is it there yet?

Officially, from the NBA folks:
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/10/22/nbatv.release/

Time Warner Cable, the second-largest cable operator in the U.S., will offer NBA TV to its customers on its Digital Basic tier.

This kind of stuff usually takes a while to filter to the local system level. No date is given in the article/release.

Cathode Kid is a clairvoyant so it has to be true. :p

I have a crystal ball but it's an old NTSC model. And that vertical hold control is always fritzing out. :)

I woke up this morning and Time Warner had FSN HD on their regular channel plus it was on the channel ESPN2 HD is suppose to on, in other words no ESPN2 HD.

I think I posted this before but I wonder what HD channels are left out there to be added..

Other then MSNBC..are there really any quality HD channels missing..
I'm waiting for BBC-America HD....

any reason it wasn't in HD ???

I turn on channel 436 and it wasn't in HD (at least in Erie Pa market)...

the Standard channel was in Full Screen but 436 had black on the sides..and even then the picture wasn't that good..

anyone else have this problem

any reason it wasn't in HD ???

I turn on channel 436 and it wasn't in HD (at least in Erie Pa market)...

the Standard channel was in Full Screen but 436 had black on the sides..and even then the picture wasn't that good..

anyone else have this problem

They said in the beginning of game that FSN was having trouble with the HD broadcast. They also said all the Cavs games would be in HD.

They said in the beginning of game that FSN was having trouble with the HD broadcast. They also said all the Cavs games would be in HD.


thanks..I didnt' put game on until middle of 2nd quarter...first suprised by the score..2nd that it wasn't in HD..

thanks..I didnt' put game on until middle of 2nd quarter...first suprised by the score..2nd that it wasn't in HD..I did not tune in until the 3 quarter. They again mentioned the problems they had with the HD feed. BTW: In addition to not being in HD, I detected a subtle strobe effect (this was on the Dish Network feeds, both HD and SD).

I did not tune in until the 3 quarter. They again mentioned the problems they had with the HD feed. BTW: In addition to not being in HD, I detected a subtle strobe effect (this was on the Dish Network feeds, both HD and SD).

By strobe do you mean like a film? I had that too on TWC SD. I couldn't stand the way it looked on the main camera but when they cut to Jeff Phelps or the announcers it looked fine.

Is anyone with an 8300HD box able to see the Start Over prompts? I'm not able to, even though others in my area do see the prompts.

Did 41 (WKBN) ever finish their upgrade? Are they currently at full power? I still cannot get enough of a signal to lock it in, but the bar is showing a higher signal than it used to.

Is anyone with an 8300HD box able to see the Start Over prompts? I'm not able to, even though others in my area do see the prompts.

I have an 8300HDC box, and I saw the prompt a few days ago on TNTHD (but I didn't try to use the feature).

I have an 8300HDC box, and I saw the prompt a few days ago on TNTHD (but I didn't try to use the feature).

I'm beginning to think the feature doesn't work on the 8300HD or 4250 boxes, but I can't confirm it so far.

I'm beginning to think the feature doesn't work on the 8300HD or 4250 boxes, but I can't confirm it so far.

I think it's been confirmed to work with 4250 boxes, however I'm not certain about 8300HD. I'm too lazy to check.:D

I have TW cable,channel3 used to be 84 QAM now its gone I can't find it any were?

I have an 8300HDC box, and I saw the prompt a few days ago on TNTHD (but I didn't try to use the feature).

I just got it to work only on my 4250 box, and only for TBS HD. It doesn't work on my 8300HD box...

Why should it matter what box you have? I can't see any reason that a 4250 would be able to do something that an 8300 can't.

I never look at mine so I don't know. I'm on my way over there, maybe I'll see if I can find anything with Start Over on it.

I have TW cable,channel3 used to be 84 QAM now its gone I can't find it any were?

They moved NBC HD and UPN HD to the 112 QAM. CBS was moved from 84 QAM to 80 QAM. At least that's what we have in Amherst.

On my Toshiba TV:

80.1 Ohio
80.2 CBS
80.3 WVIZ
80.4 World
88.2 TBS
88.5 FS Ohio
100.10 Game
104.8 3 Weather
104.9 First Alert Weather
110.1 Fox
110.2 ABC
116.1 CW
112.1 NBC
112.2 UPN

Why should it matter what box you have? I can't see any reason that a 4250 would be able to do something that an 8300 can't.

I never look at mine so I don't know. I'm on my way over there, maybe I'll see if I can find anything with Start Over on it.

The 8300HD and the 4250HDC are two entirely different animals. Along with the cable card/OCAP stuff, they run two different software programs. The 8300HD runs MDN and the 4250HDC runs ODN. There are small differences in appearance and features between MDN and ODN. Generally I've found ODN to be far superior to MDN in terms of speed and currently available features. Also since ODN is the future(since all new boxes are OCAP) and OCAP is supposed to make interactive/other features easier, that's probably why the OCAP box has Start Over before the older boxes. I haven't seen an MDN box in a long time, probably will never see one again,:D:D:D, so I can't comment on how it is here.

You know my opinion: leave the outdated equipment behind in the dust!! And since a majority of the MDN boxes are either those godawful SA8000 boxes that sucked 6 years ago with SARA or those Pioneer boxes that are almost in the double digits age-wise, I can't imagine these new features like Start Over working well(because VOD never worked "right" with the Pioneer MDN boxes).

I think I posted this before but I wonder what HD channels are left out there to be added..

Other then MSNBC..are there really any quality HD channels missing...


Well I've been really been waiting for Weather Channel HD, glad to see it coming. :)

And as a Doctor Who and Torchwood fan I'd like to see BBC America HD. But other than that, no I can't think of any QUALITY HD channels we're missing.

But again, it boils down to personal preference.

The 8300HD and the 4250HDC are two entirely different animals. Along with the cable card/OCAP stuff, they run two different software programs. The 8300HD runs MDN and the 4250HDC runs ODN. There are small differences in appearance and features between MDN and ODN. Generally I've found ODN to be far superior to MDN in terms of speed and currently available features. Also since ODN is the future(since all new boxes are OCAP) and OCAP is supposed to make interactive/other features easier, that's probably why the OCAP box has Start Over before the older boxes. I haven't seen an MDN box in a long time, probably will never see one again,:D:D:D, so I can't comment on how it is here.

You know my opinion: leave the outdated equipment behind in the dust!! And since a majority of the MDN boxes are either those godawful SA8000 boxes that sucked 6 years ago with SARA or those Pioneer boxes that are almost in the double digits age-wise, I can't imagine these new features like Start Over working well(because VOD never worked "right" with the Pioneer MDN boxes).

Main reason I still use the 8300HD boxes is that the HDC boxes don't support an external hard drive. I find that very necesssary in order to store all the HD shows I save on the DVR.

Thank you Schandorsky!

Thank you Schandorsky!

You're welcome

Main reason I still use the 8300HD boxes is that the HDC boxes don't support an external hard drive. I find that very necesssary in order to store all the HD shows I save on the DVR.

You mean yours works with a eSATA? Mine constantly had partial recordings with that thing. I went through 3 of them. That's the reason why I got TiVo's. And of course being able to store on my Mac 1 TB hard drive is a plus.;)

They moved NBC HD and UPN HD to the 112 QAM. CBS was moved from 84 QAM to 80 QAM. At least that's what we have in Amherst.

On my Toshiba TV:

80.1 Ohio
80.2 CBS
80.3 WVIZ
80.4 World
88.2 TBS
88.5 FS Ohio
100.10 Game
104.8 3 Weather
104.9 First Alert Weather
110.1 Fox
110.2 ABC
116.1 CW
112.1 NBC
112.2 UPN

Strange. Where were they before? Were they on their usual OTA positions? ie: 3.1,3.2,19.1,19.2,etc?

You mean yours works with a eSATA? Mine constantly had partial recordings with that thing. I went through 3 of them. That's the reason why I got TiVo's. And of course being able to store on my Mac 1 TB hard drive is a plus.;)

I don't know. I do know the HDC boxes have been reported to have issues with the eSATA. It's one of the persistent problems that has never been addressed with the various updates of Navigator. But there is no reason for it to be addressed because eSATA isn't one of TWC's offered features. The fact that the "jack" even works at all is surprising.

Strange. Where were they before? Were they on their usual OTA positions? ie: 3.1,3.2,19.1,19.2,etc?

No we never had them like that in Amherst from Time Warner Cable. We always had to do a scan with our TV's digital QAM tuner. We would get close to 600 channels with only a handful with picture and sound, (those that I posted) plus the analog channels. Time Warner makes it very difficult to use their product without their cable boxes.

You mean yours works with a eSATA? Mine constantly had partial recordings with that thing. I went through 3 of them. That's the reason why I got TiVo's. And of course being able to store on my Mac 1 TB hard drive is a plus.;)

I have 2 8300HD boxes and I have external drives hooked up with eSATA on both. They work flawlessly. One drive is 1TB and holds a ton of HD shows. I couldn't operate without it! I did try HDC boxes with Navigator and they do not support the external drives. Here's an AVS forum discussion just on external drives:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=516559&page=261

By strobe do you mean like a film? I had that too on TWC SD. I couldn't stand the way it looked on the main camera but when they cut to Jeff Phelps or the announcers it looked fine.Yes, it was only on the wide shot. It was noticeable when the ball was being dribbled. This was subtle, I've see worse.

Yes, it was only on the wide shot. It was noticeable when the ball was being dribbled. This was subtle, I've see worse.

I've seen strobing effects on cameras that are running high shutter rates. This is generally done so that slo-mo playback will look cleaner. This might explain why the announcer shots looked cleaner.

Would the about to be unemployed douchebag at WJW FOX TV who is showing FOX latenight programming in stretchovision please fix it? Thank you. ;)

They moved NBC HD and UPN HD to the 112 QAM. CBS was moved from 84 QAM to 80 QAM. At least that's what we have in Amherst.

On my Toshiba TV:

80.1 Ohio
80.2 CBS
80.3 WVIZ
80.4 World
88.2 TBS
88.5 FS Ohio
100.10 Game
104.8 3 Weather
104.9 First Alert Weather
110.1 Fox
110.2 ABC
116.1 CW
112.1 NBC
112.2 UPN

first timer here... been reading thru this thread and appreciate all of the info. i just bought a new hdtv and want to avoid getting nailed for another hd cablebox from TW. the tv has a built-in QAM tuner and i ran the scan which gave about 75 analog channels and 400-500 digital channels. how can i get a list of which hd channels are available and how do you get rid of the hundreds of blank hd channels that the scanner finds? also wondering if i should get rid of my hd cable box and just use the QAM tuner to save some money.

first timer here... been reading thru this thread and appreciate all of the info. i just bought a new hdtv and want to avoid getting nailed for another hd cablebox from TW. the tv has a built-in QAM tuner and i ran the scan which gave about 75 analog channels and 400-500 digital channels. how can i get a list of which hd channels are available and how do you get rid of the hundreds of blank hd channels that the scanner finds? also wondering if i should get rid of my hd cable box and just use the QAM tuner to save some money.

TES77:

The "400-500" digital channels..is usually bogus..The Qam Tuner will only show channels available in your local area..Mostly only Local HD..Sometimes some cable channels will slip in but usually for short periods of time..If you are looking to save money on a cable box..Unless you can live without HD versions of USA, TNT, etc..Its not gonna happen..Welcome to the forums..

TES77:

The "400-500" digital channels..is usually bogus..The Qam Tuner will only show channels available in your local area..Mostly only Local HD..Sometimes some cable channels will slip in but usually for short periods of time..If you are looking to save money on a cable box..Unless you can live without HD versions of USA, TNT, etc..Its not gonna happen..Welcome to the forums..

thanks for the quick reply. i just bought a new vizio lcd for the spare room. i ran the coax cable right into the back of the tv and did the channel scan. i just hate that you have to fish through everything to find out what channels you "really" have. i found cbs, abc, nbc, fox, tbs, cw, wviz, and a couple million music channels. do their locations change? how can i get rid of all those "blank" digital channels? will this end up as a better alternative to the cable box?

thanks for the quick reply. i just bought a new vizio lcd for the spare room. i ran the coax cable right into the back of the tv and did the channel scan. i just hate that you have to fish through everything to find out what channels you "really" have. i found cbs, abc, nbc, fox, tbs, cw, wviz, and a couple million music channels. do their locations change? how can i get rid of all those "blank" digital channels? will this end up as a better alternative to the cable box?

Dude. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. The only way you can survive is to get the cable box.

Did you read about SDV? That totally limits the number of channels you can get via qam. You have to get a box. Plus they do move the QAM channels around and it will just frustrate the crap out of you.

I'm all in favor of avoiding paying charges but I would have to say you are really cheating yourself out of great HD by not getting a box.

Hey finally we have SDV in Amherst. We have a few of the new HD channels showing up on channels 1600 thru 1618 and the diagnostics on my cable box shows SDV is up and running.

I have to agree with Hookbill on this..If you want the full HD effect, a Box is the way to go..

Here's what I am getting on QAM currently..RCA 14 In. digital tv (Not HD) (Canton Area)

3-1 WKYC NBC
3-2 Weather Plus
5-1 WEWS ABC
8-1 WJW FOX
19-1 WOIO CBS
19-2 WOIO Weather
43-1 WUAB MyTV
43-2 This TV
49-1 WEAO PBS
49-2 Fusion (Ohio Channel/ARTS/Local shows)
49-3 Mhz Worldview
78-1 WVIZ-25
78-2 WVIZ-Ohio Channel
78-3 WBNX-55 CW
78-4 WVIZ World
78-5 WVIZ Create
94-29 Lake High School TV
94-31 Manchester/New Franklin/Coventry Twp. Bulletin Board
94-32 Green Township Bulletin Board
109-1 WRLM-HD(Formerly WOAC-Main Channel is on 13 analog)
122-315 TWC On Demand Barker Channel
123-14 WIVM-52
124-3 TWC Movies On Demand Barker Channel
124-14 TWC HD Movies on Demand Barker Channel

Not that much really though. As I said earlier in the thread, they do have occassional cable channel previews in the mix..

I always recommend a cable box. Always. With the level of service we have now, you're seriously cheating yourself if you don't have a HD cable box connected to your HDTV. Analog TV is bad enough, it looks even worse on a HDTV set. Hence the reason I'm awaiting for some more basic tier channels to go HD. ;)

Anyone else noticing anything effed up with the program guide and Navigator? Ever few days all the info in the guide is messed up. The wrong shows are listed on the wrong channel and time. And last night I had that damn 8300 tell me that "the program guide is currently unavailable". WTF? Ever since that late night navigator "upgrade" I commented on awhile back I noticed the box has been acting worse. Somewhere between 3.1.1_3 and 3.1.3_2 they messed something up.

And they still haven't added a key word search or a way to change the aspect ratio yet. :mad:

thanks for the quick reply. i just bought a new vizio lcd for the spare room. i ran the coax cable right into the back of the tv and did the channel scan. i just hate that you have to fish through everything to find out what channels you "really" have. i found cbs, abc, nbc, fox, tbs, cw, wviz, and a couple million music channels. do their locations change? how can i get rid of all those "blank" digital channels? will this end up as a better alternative to the cable box?

It really depends on your priorities. If you are content with the local channels only in HI-def and the other channels in analog then the cable box is a waste of money. However, if it is important to you to see the HD equivalent of expanded tier channels, then the box would be necessary and the way to go.
It all depends on your viewing interests.

It really depends on your priorities. If you are content with the local channels only in HI-def and the other channels in analog then the cable box is a waste of money. However, if it is important to you to see the HD equivalent of expanded tier channels, then the box would be necessary and the way to go.
It all depends on your viewing interests.

Yep. Precisely. Though it is weird that your tv is showing every QAM and not what is available. I guess all are made different though. Mine will only tag the QAMs it can actually view rather than the whole mess. It does catch some blank/encrypted channels but not many.

Good catch, I would not even have noticed that Amherst got some new HD's if you not have posted that. I had heard that this would be the week, so maybe the source is right.

Hey finally we have SDV in Amherst. We have a few of the new HD channels showing up on channels 1600 thru 1618 and the diagnostics on my cable box shows SDV is up and running.

Good catch, I would not even have noticed that Amherst got some new HD's if you not have posted that. I had heard that this would be the week, so maybe the source is right.

They also added a few in the 1800's.

They also added a few in the 1800's.

I predict you'll be fully on board on Wednesday.

Thanks again and I impressed that we are finally getting all of those channels and that you found them. I imagine some time this week, they will be assigned to where we can see them on the guide.

They also added a few in the 1800's.

Anyone else notice that at the end of a Start Over session, the time's off by an hour? I guess they forgot that DST ended yesterday.

browsing the test channels and found this

1700 Planet Green HD
1701 Weather HD
1702 Team HD
1703 WE HD
1704 One HD
1705 G4 HD
1706 BBC-America HD
1707 MSNBC HD

WHAT???? MSNBC??? No... BBC America? All I remember on the November 4 list were a bunch of crappy channels. :confused:

All I see on those channels is "not available" and "MSBCD" caused my TV to reboot. :mad:

G4, BBC, and MSNBC froze my box so you aren't the only person

WHAT???? MSNBC??? No... BBC America? All I remember on the November 4 list were a bunch of crappy channels. :confused:

All I see on those channels is "not available" and "MSBCD" caused my TV to reboot. :mad:

I told you numb nutz that we were going to get MSNBCHD. Remember when Cathode Kid says it will happen, it will happen.:D

just wanna say thanks to all the replies i got. i am gonna keep my hd box from TW and just hope that we keep getting more hd channels. (spike and fx would be great) :)

just wanna say thanks to all the replies i got. i am gonna keep my hd box from TW and just hope that we keep getting more hd channels. (spike and fx would be great) :)

We already get FXHD. We are waiting on Spike.

I had to Manually type in those channels in the 1700 series...didn't get a picture..said try again later..

Sounds like my normal HD Channels..please try again later...lol

FYI if you go to www.silicondust.com click on resources and then TV channels, put in your zipcode, it will spit out a list of all of the QAM channels in your cable system. It has the real qam channel, so you can manually put the 10 or so channels which work in (I have a media center with 4 tuners which I do this with). It will also spit out all of the OTA 8vsb channels. select whether you want cable or ota from the pulldown on top..

Saves so much time by not having to filter through 600 channels to find the 10 that work. It also lists the network so that you don't have to figure that out either.



Strange. Where were they before? Were they on their usual OTA positions? ie: 3.1,3.2,19.1,19.2,etc?

It's 5:10 pm. Why is Oprah still on?

It's 5:10 pm. Why is Oprah still on?

Because she's too big to fit in the 4pm hour? :rolleyes:

I get QAM through my tv and get the HD locals. I had Starz for a little bit but it's gone now. WBNX-HD used to be on 102-1 but I rescanned and it's now at 55-1. In the rescan I also got This TV but it's at 111-7 instead of 43-2. I used to have the Music Choice channels but they're gone too. I'm pretty sure I get WAX(35) too. When I watch WEWS-HD it is always breaking up during sports, Dancing with the Stars and Wipeout (not scripted primetime though) but WJW-HD breaks up occasionally (once or twice a game) and WOIO-HD and WKYC-HD never break up. Is the problem because of QAM and would WEWS-HD be fixed with a cable box?

I get QAM through my tv and get the HD locals. I had Starz for a little bit but it's gone now. WBNX-HD used to be on 102-1 but I rescanned and it's now at 55-1. In the rescan I also got This TV but it's at 111-7 instead of 43-2. I used to have the Music Choice channels but they're gone too. I'm pretty sure I get WAX(35) too. When I watch WEWS-HD it is always breaking up during sports, Dancing with the Stars and Wipeout (not scripted primetime though) but WJW-HD breaks up occasionally (once or twice a game) and WOIO-HD and WKYC-HD never break up. Is the problem because of QAM and would WEWS-HD be fixed with a cable box?

Nobody can definitively tell you why you see pixelation/break ups. It could be the network. It could be sunspots. It might be TW but to be honest I think TW would be the last thing I would look at unless the channel was one of the SDV channels. The locals are not SDV.

browsing the test channels and found this

1700 Planet Green HD
1701 Weather HD
1702 Team HD
1703 WE HD
1704 One HD
1705 G4 HD
1706 BBC-America HD
1707 MSNBC HD

I did some browsing myself and hit the HD jackpot. Here in the North Ridgeville/Elyria area (old Comcast) we are still waiting for SDV. I was told by a lead tech that we will be the last TWC area to get it. There waiting for all the old Moto boxes to get switched out.

I tried punching in manually up in the ch 1700 area (didn't know there was any channels hideing up there) and found 22 hd channels waiting in the wings. They must be all the HD we don't get while waiting for SDV. These channels start at ch 1600 and go to ch 1813. Bravo, CNBC,
TLC, Anamal Planet, Family, ESPN news, MLB, Golf, Nat Geo, Science, FX, CNN, Fox News, Discovery, Fox Movie, Toon, Biog, TMC, Hallmark, Fox Business News, Outdoor, and Disney XD, all HD. For any of you that don't any or all of these channels, this will be a preview of the coming HD.
Remember, these channels won't show up in the guide until we get SDV. Then they will reassigned to there new home in the 400's, with full show times and discriptions.

Enjoy,
Ben Music

I did some browsing myself and hit the HD jackpot. Here in the North Ridgeville/Elyria area (old Comcast) we are still waiting for SDV. I was told by a lead tech that we will be the last TWC area to get it. There waiting for all the old Moto boxes to get switched out.

I tried punching in manually up in the ch 1700 area (didn't know there was any channels hideing up there) and found 22 hd channels waiting in the wings. They must be all the HD we don't get while waiting for SDV. These channels start at ch 1600 and go to ch 1813. Bravo, CNBC,
TLC, Anamal Planet, Family, ESPN news, MLB, Golf, Nat Geo, Science, FX, CNN, Fox News, Discovery, Fox Movie, Toon, Biog, TMC, Hallmark, Fox Business News, Outdoor, and Disney XD, all HD. For any of you that don't any or all of these channels, this will be a preview of the coming HD.
Remember, these channels won't show up in the guide until we get SDV. Then they will reassigned to there new home in the 400's, with full show times and discriptions.

Enjoy,
Ben Music

If you are getting those channels you do have SDV activated in your area or you would not be receiving them. There is not enough bandwidth for all these HD channels without it.

I told you numb nutz that we were going to get MSNBCHD. Remember when Cathode Kid says it will happen, it will happen.:D

He got lucky this time. I learned from you to never believe what TWC says. I sure hope Cathode Kid learns not to be so trusting of those idiots at TWC. He really could've set us up for disappointment here.

Speaking of numb nutz, how about we turn the FXCING CHANNELS ON NOW??? I'd like to watch "MSBCD" tonight as there's going to buttloads of Keith, Rachel and Chris Matthews coverage on MSNBC tonight.

He got lucky this time. I learned from you to never believe what TWC says. I sure hope Cathode Kid learns not to be so trusting of those idiots at TWC. He really could've set us up for disappointment here.

Speaking of numb nutz, how about we turn the FXCING CHANNELS ON NOW??? I'd like to watch "MSBCD" tonight as there's going to buttloads of Keith, Rachel and Chris Matthews coverage on MSNBC tonight.

You can. It's just not in HD.:D

I did some browsing myself and hit the HD jackpot. Here in the North Ridgeville/Elyria area (old Comcast) we are still waiting for SDV. I was told by a lead tech that we will be the last TWC area to get it. There waiting for all the old Moto boxes to get switched out.

I tried punching in manually up in the ch 1700 area (didn't know there was any channels hideing up there) and found 22 hd channels waiting in the wings. They must be all the HD we don't get while waiting for SDV. These channels start at ch 1600 and go to ch 1813. Bravo, CNBC,
TLC, Anamal Planet, Family, ESPN news, MLB, Golf, Nat Geo, Science, FX, CNN, Fox News, Discovery, Fox Movie, Toon, Biog, TMC, Hallmark, Fox Business News, Outdoor, and Disney XD, all HD. For any of you that don't any or all of these channels, this will be a preview of the coming HD.
Remember, these channels won't show up in the guide until we get SDV. Then they will reassigned to there new home in the 400's, with full show times and discriptions.

Enjoy,
Ben Music

Yeah, you got SDV now Ben. Time to get that tuner adapter going.

He got lucky this time. I learned from you to never believe what TWC says. I sure hope Cathode Kid learns not to be so trusting of those idiots at TWC. He really could've set us up for disappointment here.

Speaking of numb nutz, how about we turn the FXCING CHANNELS ON NOW??? I'd like to watch "MSBCD" tonight as there's going to buttloads of Keith, Rachel and Chris Matthews coverage on MSNBC tonight.

that seems to fit....Keith...Chris and buttload...:)

Is anybody seeing the new channels? Why do they add the channels if they're not turned on? Why tease us?

Ok here's what you don't know. TW has a think tank called project nickdawg and their sole purpose is to come up with things to light your fuse. Mwahhaha.

OK, I have another question: what happened to FUSE HD? I was actually looking forward to that channel. Of course I'd rather have MSNBC than FUSE, that's no contest at all. But why do we have shti like WE, the green channel and the weather channel and whateverthefugg "ONE TV" is, but not FUSE? Also, they're starting to add garbage like another "team" channel? Don't we already have one of those, I remember Hook saying something about the baseball in HD. Why do we need another PPV Channel? What next? Is TWC going to start adding the multicast channels of HBO and Showtime? I hope not.

I get QAM through my tv and get the HD locals. I had Starz for a little bit but it's gone now. WBNX-HD used to be on 102-1 but I rescanned and it's now at 55-1. In the rescan I also got This TV but it's at 111-7 instead of 43-2. I used to have the Music Choice channels but they're gone too. I'm pretty sure I get WAX(35) too. When I watch WEWS-HD it is always breaking up during sports, Dancing with the Stars and Wipeout (not scripted primetime though) but WJW-HD breaks up occasionally (once or twice a game) and WOIO-HD and WKYC-HD never break up. Is the problem because of QAM and would WEWS-HD be fixed with a cable box?

Matt, look for your tv set's diagnostic menus, particularly signal strength and SNR/BER. Tune to an HD channel that works well and note the levels. Then tune to a channel that breaks up and note the levels again. You might be seeing a signal that's too low or too high on that channel. It's also possible that you're receiving ingress on that channel. Make sure you're using good quality cable with "digi-con" style connectors on it, not the junk that usually comes with the set. It can be surprising how much of an impact a poor cable can have on digital channels.

Yeah, you got SDV now Ben. Time to get that tuner adapter going.

Hook, what I don't understand is, if we now have SDV, why are these channels in the 1600 to 1813 with no guide listings or program info? Why are they not in the 400's with the rest of the HD channels with channel numbers and full program guide info and times that the different shows air?

Ben Music

Hook, what I don't understand is, if we now have SDV, why are these channels in the 1600 to 1813 with no guide listings or program info? Why are they not in the 400's with the rest of the HD channels with channel numbers and full program guide info and times that the different shows air?

Ben Music

That's the area where they test new channels. Once they come out if testing you will find them in the. 400-500 range. That should happen today.

That's the area where they test new channels. Once they come out if testing you will find them in the. 400-500 range. That should happen today.

It should happen today. It hasn't happened yet. :rolleyes:

It's still early.:)

If it's not on by tonight, I think it's time to play the contact card, if you know what I mean. ;)

that these new HD stations suppose to show up at ??

There has been a full SDV outage in Cleveland Proper since the middle of last night. Come on Time Warner!!!:mad:

There has been a full SDV outage in Cleveland Proper since the middle of last night. Come on Time Warner!!!:mad:

If you haven't already, then call it in to TW. You'd be surprised at how they don't know what is going on.

Thanks Hook. Already did to my main Technical Contact at Lakeside. I only hope that they are bringing up the new channels :) Hopefully that is why it is down. Doubt it but I can only hope :)

I'm ready to call this horse manure company and cancel my service. When they ask why I will say it's because I can't watch MSNBC HD.

Let this be a lesson, never trust ANYTHING said by ANYONE about Time Warner Cable.

If you haven't already, then call it in to TW. You'd be surprised at how they don't know what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised. It seems they forgot what today is. ;) :rolleyes:

Existing Channels are back! But no new ones. :(

Is it true that the same people that run the Cleveland Browns also run Time Warner Cable?

So I mistakenly put in 1600 as a channel, and woa.. I found hdtv.. all the way up to 1623 or 1624. I also found that between 1801 and 1813 or so are more hd channels.. ALL OF THE CHANNELS everybody else has gotten.. hiding.. you have to manually put in the channel number, but you will see.. fox news hd cnn hd bravo hd abc family hd disney xd Natinal Geo HD Fox Movie HD... and so much more:D

Also if you tune to channel 1612, you get some sort of install channel, where you can install something from mysto.. i don't know what asks for an installer number and a billing number or something.. and then tries to connect to the headend.. but fails.. If these channels are already there, why the hell don't they just activate them?

:D:D:Dbl;e
Sorry, just noticed the post on the previous page... But check out the install channel 1612 and let us know if anybody is able to get anything installed.

So I mistakenly put in 1600 as a channel, and woa.. I found hdtv.. all the way up to 1623 or 1624. I also found that between 1801 and 1813 or so are more hd channels.. ALL OF THE CHANNELS everybody else has gotten.. hiding.. you have to manually put in the channel number, but you will see.. fox news hd cnn hd bravo hd abc family hd disney xd Natinal Geo HD Fox Movie HD... and so much more:D

Also if you tune to channel 1612, you get some sort of install channel, where you can install something from mysto.. i don't know what asks for an installer number and a billing number or something.. and then tries to connect to the headend.. but fails.. If these channels are already there, why the hell don't they just activate them?

:D:D:Dbl;e
Sorry, just noticed the post on the previous page... But check out the install channel 1612 and let us know if anybody is able to get anything installed.

I just wish they would get this changeover done with, because we are still short a dozen HD channels

So I mistakenly put in 1600 as a channel, and woa.. I found hdtv.. all the way up to 1623 or 1624. I also found that between 1801 and 1813 or so are more hd channels.. ALL OF THE CHANNELS everybody else has gotten.. hiding.. you have to manually put in the channel number, but you will see.. fox news hd cnn hd bravo hd abc family hd disney xd Natinal Geo HD Fox Movie HD... and so much more:D

Also if you tune to channel 1612, you get some sort of install channel, where you can install something from mysto.. i don't know what asks for an installer number and a billing number or something.. and then tries to connect to the headend.. but fails.. If these channels are already there, why the hell don't they just activate them?

:D:D:Dbl;e
Sorry, just noticed the post on the previous page... But check out the install channel 1612 and let us know if anybody is able to get anything installed.

what's up everyone. i'm in the elyria/north ridgeville area and i did find a few new hd channels. very nice! dumb question-what is SDV and when will these hidden channels be listed in the guide? thanks fellas.

what's up everyone. i'm in the elyria/north ridgeville area and i did find a few new hd channels. very nice! dumb question-what is SDV and when will these hidden channels be listed in the guide? thanks fellas.

SDV = Switched Digital Video. It's the system used to deliver all these new HD channels. It works similar to video on demand where not every channel is a physical channel taking up bandwidth all the time, the channel is "requested" when it is tuned.

I looked at channel 1612, it's a Mystro App that tells the MAC Address, RF IP, Network Connection, RDC Power, FDC Power, OD Service Group, Stack Version, ODN version and Cable Card Version. It looks similar to the channel that used to be on Passport that had channel/network/diagnostic information. Since it says "press Select to send" maybe that sent data will be able to help correct "issues" sooner. One can only hope.

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

Great news!.

I'll check my lineup in Mentor when I get home this evening.

Ray

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

We are still waiting in Amherst (Elyria area) for Time Warner to complete the changeover to SDV, hopefully we will get these channels too and the other dozen or so we are not getting yet.

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

Not here in Bainbridge. 491 is Still Showtime HD and 490 is still HBO HD. I got "channel not available" messages on the remainder of the channels.

No changes made to TiVo's guide either.

Edit: Just checked SA 8300 no changes there and guide info is still the same. Maybe they are doing this slowly.

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

for these new channels....

I found it on HBO last night....

I didn't try it as I was watching the best team money can buy win another World Series but flipped over to see what was on HBO last night...between innnings

As of 10AM those channels are not on the positions I listed above. But the 1700-1707 channels are all active.

As of 10AM those channels are not on the positions I listed above. But the 1700-1707 channels are all active.

Why would the move Showtime, HBO, and Cinemax? Something isn't right.

Why would the move Showtime, HBO, and Cinemax? Something isn't right.

They all have channel numbers up in the 600s by their other channels. I'm not sure why they were duplicated in the 400s to begin with.

Nothing in Chagrin Falls yet for the channels mentioned.

Hail to the Yankees on their 27th title!

Nothing in Chagrin Falls yet for the channels mentioned.

Hail to the Yankees on their 27th title!

Yankees suck. They will always suck. Down with the evil empire.:p

Yankees suck. They will always suck. Down with the evil empire.:p


And there is nothing worse than a non-New Yorker Yankee fan!

Two big victories for New York:

The most expensive team won the World Series and the most expensive mayor won the election.

Yippee!! ;)

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

Where is NHL Network HD, which was one of the originally announced Nov. 4 additions?

Yankees suck. They will always suck. Down with the evil empire.:p

You're just sour grapes because your LA Dodgers were pitiful and pathetic in the post season. Talk about suck and choke. Oh well, back to HD talk

You're just sour grapes because your LA Dodgers were pitiful and pathetic in the post season. Talk about suck and choke. Oh well, back to HD talk

:( Sore Winner.:p

Now we can go back to HD talk. You started it you don't get to finish.

MSNBC HD is up and running on 1707!! :D:D

Back to HD...

455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

No New Channels from the Lakeside Headend yet :(

Did anybody see these channels on these stations besides nickdawg? Not that I'm discrediting him, I believe he saw and noted correctly but I'm trying to figure if it was just in TW Native. Don't forget there are now 3 "territories" of TWNEO.

I'm watching MSNBC HD right now.

Tune to channel 1700 and there are HD stations between there and 1707

Did anybody see these channels on these stations besides nickdawg? Not that I'm discrediting him, I believe he saw and noted correctly but I'm trying to figure if it was just in TW Native. Don't forget there are now 3 "territories" of TWNEO.

Maybe they got tired of my bitching and whining and only turned them on here. :p

Maybe they got tired of my bitching and whining and only turned them on here. :p

No I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking about this channel list in the 400''s you posted. Where did you get that?

No I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking about this channel list in the 400''s you posted. Where did you get that?

From the NE Ohio HD channel list.

From the NE Ohio HD channel list.

Oh yeah. I see it now.

Also Did a full reboot to try and pull them in. Nothing from Lakeside yet

Also Did a full reboot to try and pull them in. Nothing from Lakeside yet

Anything in the 1700 range?

Anything in the 1700 range?

We cannot even enter a channel above 1000 it will not take. 1608 which is an employee channel 1609 which is marked NEO and 1995 and 1996 which are CAM channels for large aprtment buildings exist but you cannot type them in. They can only be accesssed from the guide. So no sighting yet. Hopefully soon!

Hookbill, you have a Tweety Space page, send a message to OMW. Maybe they'll discuss this tomorrow.

Funny how Cathode Kid mysteriously vanishes. Methinks we have a spy among us. ;)

Hookbill, you have a Tweety Space page, send a message to OMW. Maybe they'll discuss this tomorrow.

Funny how Cathode Kid mysteriously vanishes. Methinks we have a spy among us. ;)
Yes sir I'll get right on that. :rolleyes:

I think everybody is already asking. OMW about what's going on. But what the heck i'll shoot a DM at him.

Cathode Kid is mysterious. He knows too much.

Although we do not have the new HD Channels it does appear we have recieved a great deal more startover. HD in particular. TNTHD,HGTVHD,FDHD,TLCHD, NGCHD, DISHD, DXDHD, FXHD, HBOHD, SHOHD

I wonder if Cathode Kid can predict when Time Warner will have more Viacom owned channels in HD and if Time Warner ever gets NFL Network

I wonder if Cathode Kid can predict when Time Warner will have more Viacom owned channels in HD and if Time Warner ever gets NFL Network

Thr NFL network wad on TW. This was shortly after the Adelphia buy out. TW wanted to put NFL on their sports tier but the NFL said no. I wonder if NFL is on any TW market?

(read in a spooky voice)

I'm looooking into my crystal ball. I see-I see... I see the NFL network, on the Time Warner Cable. I also see Cleveland Browns, in a large stadium. It's a Super Bowl. They won.

That's when NFL Netwok will be added! :rolleyes: ;)

No New Channels from the Lakeside Headend yet :(

Have once again rebooted this morning. Still no New HD from Lakeside or in Cleveland.

No channels in the 400s yet
also Ohio folks do you guys have 1708 as FSN Pittsburgh HD because I can't figure out if it will be for everyone in the NEO/Western PA region or just the Western PA region

No channels in the 400s yet
also Ohio folks do you guys have 1708 as FSN Pittsburgh HD because I can't figure out if it will be for everyone in the NEO/Western PA region or just the Western PA region

No, it deadends at 1707 here. That's probably going to be added to 436 or 437 where we have the HD Bonus channel that shows FSN Ohio.

Also, today all the new channels have guide info on the banner as well as channel logos.

After getting some SDV channels in the 1600's and the 1800's I thought Time Warner would finalize SDV this week and we would get the same HD channels the rest of you are receiving. The more I think about it and knowing Time Warner Cable, we will be lucky to have it by Christmas.

Totally agree, I thought Amherst would be this week too, but I am just glad that we have some of those HD channels in the 1600's and 1800's.

After getting some SDV channels in the 1600's and the 1800's I thought Time Warner would finalize SDV this week and we would get the same HD channels the rest of you are receiving. The more I think about it and knowing Time Warner Cable, we will be lucky to have it by Christmas.

After getting some SDV channels in the 1600's and the 1800's I thought Time Warner would finalize SDV this week and we would get the same HD channels the rest of you are receiving. The more I think about it and knowing Time Warner Cable, we will be lucky to have it by Christmas.

So you have channels in the 4-digit channel range too? I wonder why TWC added these channels and left them up there? OMW picked the perfect week to go on a blackout vacation. :mad:

Still No new HD in Cleveland Proper :( It is listed in the Channel Guide at TWCguide.com but not in the guide where it matters. The Cable box!

I'm a bit surprised that I'm not seeing them yet on TiVo's guide. Usually it hits TiVo before TW puts it on their web page.

Now can you imagine if you are looking at purchasing TW and you go to their web page? You see all those channels but they are not really there. Sad. Wonder what the hang up is?

I'm still getting some pixelization on the local HD channels here in Erie. This is only happening in the room where my Roadrunner is also hooked up. I have the main cable in the room split 4 ways, one for the internet and 3 for the TV, VCR, and DVD. I've tried using an amp also, but nothing seems to fix it. Also unhooked the internet cable with no change. The other HD channels seem OK. Anything else I can try?

I'm still getting some pixelization on the local HD channels here in Erie. This is only happening in the room where my Roadrunner is also hooked up. I have the main cable in the room split 4 ways, one for the internet and 3 for the TV, VCR, and DVD. I've tried using an amp also, but nothing seems to fix it. Also unhooked the internet cable with no change. The other HD channels seem OK. Anything else I can try?
Yes. Call TW and have them fix it for you. Show them yourself if you have to the difference when the modem is hooked up and when it isn't.

This shouldn't be this difficult for them to fix.

As of 2:00AM all of the new HDTV channels are present in their correct locations. The 1700s channels are gone.

How's the situation in the former Adelphia areas and Tivo?

Also, is anyone else missing sound on the WE channel, 491?

As of 2:00AM all of the new HDTV channels are present in their correct locations. The 1700s channels are gone.

How's the situation in the former Adelphia areas and Tivo?

Also, is anyone else missing sound on the WE channel, 491?
I haven't checked all channels but I see MSNBC. I do not have guide data on TiVo. I have volume on 491.

I just got off the phone with TiVo and have reported the line up changes. I also sent an email to lineup@tivo.com, however that's an old email address and I don't know if anybody even looks at it.

As usual I always feel it's best if more then one person reports a line up change. More then likely we will receive new channel listings before days out, specially since TW has already updated their web site. If you would like to call TiVo yourself the number is 877.367.8486. If they start asking you to jump through hoops tell them you've already had your TiVo call in and no new lineup data was available.

The guy I got this morning was actually pretty good. If you are recording anything on Showtime, Cinemax or HBO today I suggest going to Season Pass Manager/View Upcoming Episodes and select the same showing on the channel listed in the 600's just to be safe.

Channels are live here as well. A couple of them BBCA in particular is pretty jumpy but other than that they look good. No TiVo update yet.

look good here in Copley/Fairlawn. Hook, I'll join in the TiVo fun and give them a call too. Strength in numbers! ;)

New channels present in NEO Youngstown/Warren area. I am impressed and must say TW has really stepped it up. They are consistently throwing out new channels over the last few months. I wouldn't mind seeing the premiums in all HD though. Certainly narrows the competitive gap with Direct and the dish services.

Wow, awesome surprise to see these new channels, holy buckets, nice lineup.

Anyone know if we will be getting VH1 in HD any time soon?

good morning everyone. any info on when the elyria/north ridgeville area will have all the new channels? seems like we're the last ones to get them. i can still dial them up manually, but would prefer to go thru the guide

good morning everyone. any info on when the elyria/north ridgeville area will have all the new channels? seems like we're the last ones to get them. i can still dial them up manually, but would prefer to go thru the guide

If it makes you feel any better, and I know it doesn't I'm kind of in the same boat. I have all the channels in the right spots but TiVo hasn't supplied guide data and since I time shift everything it's a bit of a problem.

Last night I had recordings scheduled on 491 and 490, Showtime and HBO respectively. I had to manually switch to the other two HD channels which are the only two now for these channels.

In the past when there has been channel switches TiVo somehow knows about the channel moving and corrects itself with the proper channel. But it can't do that without guide data.

Going to make some new SP's for those two shows for now. Hopefully we will get guide data by end of day, TiVo is usually very quick about this.

good morning everyone. any info on when the elyria/north ridgeville area will have all the new channels? seems like we're the last ones to get them. i can still dial them up manually, but would prefer to go thru the guide


The last time I email Time Warner cable, which was about a month or so ago, I was told late fall, which puts in December.
Being in the same boat as you I know exactly how you feel. You do realize, even though we are getting some HD channels in the 1600 and 1800's, that we are still getting about 20 HD channels less than the rest of Northeast Ohio. I am sick and tired of paying the same rate as the rest of northeast Ohio and getting less.

The last time I email Time Warner cable, which was about a month or so ago, I was told late fall, which puts in December.
Being in the same boat as you I know exactly how you feel. You do realize, even though we are getting some HD channels in the 1600 and 1800's, that we are still getting about 20 HD channels less than the rest of Northeast Ohio. I am sick and tired of paying the same rate as the rest of northeast Ohio and getting less.

that is absolute garbage. what's the reasoning for that? i pay them alot of money and am just about fed up with cable. :mad:

Well the bliss has ended :) Lakeside is experiencing a partial outage of channels :( It appears all SDV Channels are out. Although oddly enough if you click Start Over on the channels that have it despite the black screen it will Start Over. Of course the Start Over is then pretty freeze prone. Come on Time Warner!!! :(

look good here in Copley/Fairlawn. Hook, I'll join in the TiVo fun and give them a call too. Strength in numbers! ;)
I must be missing something. I'm in Akron and don't see any of the new HD channels. Is it a Tivo thing or are they somewhere else on the channel lineup. check my 400's and nothing new here. thanks.

I must be missing something. I'm in Akron and don't see any of the new HD channels. Is it a Tivo thing or are they somewhere else on the channel lineup. check my 400's and nothing new here. thanks.

Punch in channel 487. That's MSNBCHD. TiVo line up does not have the new channels last I checked. If you see that then you should get the other channels too. Just have to manually punch them in for now.

My TiVo S3 died last night. I had a feeling it was going it was looking sluggish over the past few months.

Last night I attempted to have it call in and see if new data was available for the new HD channels and when I tried to bring up the now playing list it froze. 5 minutes later it rebooted. And rebooted. Did this for 50 minutes.

I tried all the tricks I knew to snap it out of a looping reboot, nothing worked. So today I'm off to Best Buy to buy a replacement, and the good news is it's not going to cost me a penny. My wife has been staying at a Hilton in New Jersey over the majority of this year working on a project. She earned 400.00 in Best Buy gift cards and they arrived yesterday.

I didn't know what to do with them. I do now.:)

I got 3 years out of that S3 and if I had to do it all over again knowing that I would only get 3 years I probably would have waited until the price dropped. I spent 1000.00 on that machine when it first came out. Replacement TiVo HD with only 50gb less hard drive space will run 299.99. I may order a 1 TB eSATA Hard drive while I'm in the store, that will increase the price by 160.00. If I do that then it will cost me a little something out of my pocket.

Or I could just go to TW and get a pos SA 8300 for nothing, that has never worked right for me and is totally difficult to work with. lol, they will probably give me a SA 8000 since they are giving out all the good machines to people in the Elyria area.

Hook I assume you know that you can replace the hard drive in that unit and get it up again. I like my S3 best of all my Tivo's its worth fixing it. If you don't want to fix it let me know I would be interested in purchasing it.

My TiVo S3 died last night. I had a feeling it was going it was looking sluggish over the past few months.

Last night I attempted to have it call in and see if new data was available for the new HD channels and when I tried to bring up the now playing list it froze. 5 minutes later it rebooted. And rebooted. Did this for 50 minutes.

I tried all the tricks I knew to snap it out of a looping reboot, nothing worked. So today I'm off to Best Buy to buy a replacement, and the good news is it's not going to cost me a penny. My wife has been staying at a Hilton in New Jersey over the majority of this year working on a project. She earned 400.00 in Best Buy gift cards and they arrived yesterday.

I didn't know what to do with them. I do now.:)

I got 3 years out of that S3 and if I had to do it all over again knowing that I would only get 3 years I probably would have waited until the price dropped. I spent 1000.00 on that machine when it first came out. Replacement TiVo HD with only 50gb less hard drive space will run 299.99. I may order a 1 TB eSATA Hard drive while I'm in the store, that will increase the price by 160.00. If I do that then it will cost me a little something out of my pocket.

Or I could just go to TW and get a pos SA 8300 for nothing, that has never worked right for me and is totally difficult to work with. lol, they will probably give me a SA 8000 since they are giving out all the good machines to people in the Elyria area.

Wow, that sucks. You'd think a couple hundred dollar piece of crap equipment would last longer than three years. My mother has a SA8300 that's also three years old and it's still going. I would've expected much, much, much better out of Tivo.

Oh well, I'm glad I have a SA box. When it breaks, I know it will be taken care of.

Maybe it's because the Tivo cannot be turned off. :p I mentioned that before with the SA box.

Wow, that sucks. You'd think a couple hundred dollar piece of crap equipment would last longer than three years. My mother has a SA8300 that's also three years old and it's still going. I would've expected much, much, much better out of Tivo.

Oh nickdawg you're just drooling in delight over the fact that the S3 failed. Keep in mind I never would have paid that amount of money if the SA 8300 did what it was suppose to do.

I have new equipment for the downstairs now, a brand new TiVo HD and a TiVo approved 1TB eSATA. I walked out of Best Buy paying a total of 150.58 for everything. I've got the receipt to prove it. And I do plan on finding out what happened with the S3. I still think it was hard drive failure but it may not have been the S3. It may have been the eSATA that caused it. I'll find out. It so happened that something came in the mail the same day this happened that allowed me to get a great deal. So I just replaced everything.

I was surprised to see the amount of regular TiVo's Best Buy had. At least 6 of them and 6 TiVo HD's. They only had 1 of the eSATA's I was lucky to get it.

Hook I assume you know that you can replace the hard drive in that unit and get it up again. I like my S3 best of all my Tivo's its worth fixing it. If you don't want to fix it let me know I would be interested in purchasing it.

Let me know what you think it's worth. I was planning on dropping a new hard drive in it and selling it. But if you want to buy it as is, I'd be happy to talk to you.

Wow, that sucks. You'd think a couple hundred dollar piece of crapMaybe it's because the Tivo cannot be turned off. :p I mentioned that before with the SA box.

These days most CE devices aren't really "off" when they're turned off. They might appear to be sleeping but they might be waiting for updates, downloading new schedules, uploading pertinent diagnostic data or just sending/receiving a heartbeat, all of which require it to be mostly "on."

The SA boxes have come a long way. If you're worried about the hard drive though, you can allow it to spin down at night by tuning it to two different music on demand channels (main and PIP tuners), then turning it off. The hard drive will be allowed to spin down because it doesn't need to buffer an audio channel.

These days most CE devices aren't really "off" when they're turned off. They might appear to be sleeping but they might be waiting for updates, downloading new schedules, uploading pertinent diagnostic data or just sending/receiving a heartbeat, all of which require it to be mostly "on."

The SA boxes have come a long way. If you're worried about the hard drive though, you can allow it to spin down at night by tuning it to two different music on demand channels (main and PIP tuners), then turning it off. The hard drive will be allowed to spin down because it doesn't need to buffer an audio channel.

You can do something similar with TiVo. Just tune to a channel where there isn't anything being broadcast. Like for me one of the On Demand channels would work.

Whatever TWC uses to get the local HD channels must be worse than my HD OTA setup. I'm watching WJW right now and the picture is freezing and breaking up with audio cutting out occasionally. I watch the same WJW digital channel with the TV connected to the converter box/antenna and it is flawless. Also, on the analog side I've seen channels 4 and 6 prone to a mustard yellow screen with picture freezing. When WOIO has a yellow screen on TWC, it's fine through OTA.

How nice, my now $120 and ever growing cable service cannot do the simplesst task that an old set of rabbit ears and a $10 converter box can. :rolleyes:

Whatever TWC uses to get the local HD channels must be worse than my HD OTA setup. I'm watching WJW right now and the picture is freezing and breaking up with audio cutting out occasionally. I watch the same WJW digital channel with the TV connected to the converter box/antenna and it is flawless. Also, on the analog side I've seen channels 4 and 6 prone to a mustard yellow screen with picture freezing. When WOIO has a yellow screen on TWC, it's fine through OTA.

How nice, my now $120 and ever growing cable service cannot do the simplesst task that an old set of rabbit ears and a $10 converter box can. :rolleyes:
Just tuned in and have yet to notice anything unusual...

...still nothing unusual. "Cats in the Cradle" brought back some memories, however!

Apparently the problem is even more widespread. None of the SDV channels work and their analog counterparts are out too. I can't watch MSNBC HD or MSNBC in analog. Everything is out except for a few random crap like TNT HD and USA HD.

Apparently the problem is even more widespread. None of the SDV channels work and their analog counterparts are out too. I can't watch MSNBC HD or MSNBC in analog. Everything is out except for a few random crap like TNT HD and USA HD.
Sounds like the same type of outage I experienced here in Westpark yesterday. None of the SDV stuff was working at all. Some of the non-SDV HD channels worked sporadically, but they eventually all crapped out. Very annoying indeed. Hope they get your region restored soon.

Yay!! I finally have analog TV again!! After a horrible loud fuzz noize on MSNBC and the screen flashing and jumping, I can watch under 100 analog channels again. :D

Anybody know what's up with WEWS HD? I just realized this morning that the channel has disappeared on my 32" dynex that has an HD tuner. I re-scanned (it used to be 5.1) and it is still gone. Just have my cable plugged into the set and still get the other local HD stations. Hoping someone had some info. thanks.

Anybody know what's up with WEWS HD? I just realized this morning that the channel has disappeared on my 32" dynex that has an HD tuner. I re-scanned (it used to be 5.1) and it is still gone. Just have my cable plugged into the set and still get the other local HD stations. Hoping someone had some info. thanks.

WEWS is on the air but working on the main tower. They are temporarily transmitting from the auxiliary tower which reduces the coverage area. If you cannot receive the signal now but could last week then it's probably because of the reduced power. This work should be completed by the middle of next week and will result in improved coverage for the entire viewing area.

WEWS is on the air but working on the main tower. They are temporarily transmitting from the auxiliary tower which reduces the coverage area. If you cannot receive the signal now but could last week then it's probably because of the reduced power. This work should be completed by the middle of next week and will result in improved coverage for the entire viewing area.

Hope it works for my area. Ive never gotten WEWS-DT good enough to lock in on my setup..

look good here in Copley/Fairlawn. Hook, I'll join in the TiVo fun and give them a call too. Strength in numbers! ;)

I had an issue and had to call TiVo Customer support last night. In the course of the conversation I mentioned the fact that we still didn't have guide data and wanted to see what was going on with my case number. I gave the rep number to the CSR and he said he couldn't find the case number.

He did however find that I had called and had a full listing of the channels that needed to be changed. He said he would make sure it went directly to Tribune Media.

I think we've been lucky to have guide data support as quickly as we got in the past, however someone has dropped the ball on this. Please, if you are a TiVo owner call customer support and report the new channel changes. Maybe one of our request will actually get through to Tribune Media!

Channels:

455 Planet Green Hd
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
488 TWC HD
490 BBC AMERICA HD (was HBO HD)
491 WE HD (Was Showtime HD)
492 TV One HD (was Cinemax HD)
760 Team HD

TiVo's number is 877.367.8486

Their customer service is really shot to sh*t, so bad now that I will not recommend a TiVo to anyone. I know it's a pain, but it may be the only way to fix this. I will also email Tribune Media, but so far that has had no affect.

I will not recommend a TiVo to anyone.

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs8/300W/i/2005/330/3/1/___GASP_by_Dokuro.png

http://static.greysanatomyinsider.com/images/gallery/gasp.jpg

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Yet you want to go buy another one? :confused:

May I suggest for you:

http://photos.dragofamily.com/Theater%20Room/slides/SA8300HDC.jpg

:p

I'm simply stating for the amount of knowledge I expect from technical support that TiVo is not meeting that need. I am in no way indicating that the piece of crap you put on your picture is anywhere in the league of TiVo.

UNDERSTAND THIS NICKDAWG. THE FRIGGEN SA 8300 DOESN'T WORK!!!!

How many times do I have to explain it to you? 3 machines, 3 failures in 2 years of time with that crap.

Edit: And I didn't "want" to buy one, I "did" buy one.

It does too work. I have one and its fine. The only reason why I had to trade in the 8300HD (not C) box for a C box is that one was messed up after having it two years. This did not start until a software update TWC passed through in March 2009. Before that the box had Passport and it survived the Passport to SARA conversion in May 2008.

Although I have to admit I'd probably want to voluntarily trade it with the latest software updates that added Nearest Tune. Plus the 4250HDC UI was smoother and more polished than the legacy HD boxes. The 8300HD had an annoying lagging fade whenever menus appeared.

But still, that's hardware issues. Don't think that a purchased DVR won't one day be a POS due to software updates. Especially all that interactive internet crap. I cringe at the thought of those "apps"(as the annoying Apple commercials say!) crashing the Tivo.

Besides, I bet there will be a new Tivo S4 HD out before three years. Uh-oh! :p

TWC will update their equipment for free, although I would have to say thanks but no thanks to the "upgrade" over the 8300HDC, which technically is the Samsung boxes. The Samsung boxes suck majorly, so I don't want one.

It does too work. I have one and its fine. The only reason why I had to trade in the 8300HD (not C) box for a C box is that one was messed up after having it two years. This did not start until a software update TWC passed through in March 2009. Before that the box had Passport and it survived the Passport to SARA conversion in May 2008.

Although I have to admit I'd probably want to voluntarily trade it with the latest software updates that added Nearest Tune. Plus the 4250HDC UI was smoother and more polished than the legacy HD boxes. The 8300HD had an annoying lagging fade whenever menus appeared.

But still, that's hardware issues. Don't think that a purchased DVR won't one day be a POS due to software updates. Especially all that interactive internet crap. I cringe at the thought of those "apps"(as the annoying Apple commercials say!) crashing the Tivo.

Besides, I bet there will be a new Tivo S4 HD out before three years. Uh-oh! :p

TWC will update their equipment for free, although I would have to say thanks but no thanks to the "upgrade" over the 8300HDC, which technically is the Samsung boxes. The Samsung boxes suck majorly, so I don't want one.


I'm not going to do this dance with you again. It's my money, I'll spend it how I please. If you read my post about my new machine you'd understand that I paid pennies on the dollar for it. It's got 1200 gb of HD space. I got 400.00 off the price. It was worth the money.

TiVo for your information has another model out besides the HD. It comes with a 1tb internal hard drive but I didn't buy it because it was cheaper for me to get the TiVo HD with a 1tb eSATA then to purchase the single machine. Besides it runs the same platform.

I'm not the least bit concerned about another model coming out. What I am concerned about in regards to TiVo is that they have farmed out their technical support to a bunch of morons. I think they are people that TW probably fired.

WEWS is on the air but working on the main tower. They are temporarily transmitting from the auxiliary tower which reduces the coverage area. If you cannot receive the signal now but could last week then it's probably because of the reduced power. This work should be completed by the middle of next week and will result in improved coverage for the entire viewing area.
Thanks for the info. You never know what the evil empire is up to behind those closed doors. I guess I should just keep scanning over the next few days to check.

Spoke with a local tech who was honest enough today, recent issues are mostly due to oversaturation. They have techs spaced out throughout NE Ohio so that when SDV channels go out, they can flip the reset button in Canton, then at all the local nodes, resulting in >2 hr service outages. If you get outages, call in and complain

Spoke with a local tech who was honest enough today, recent issues are mostly due to oversaturation. They have techs spaced out throughout NE Ohio so that when SDV channels go out, they can flip the reset button in Canton, then at all the local nodes, resulting
in >2 hr service outages. If you get outages, call in and complain
I think people are under the impression that there is a big board at TW full of lights showing every head end. And when something goes wrong a light starts flashing. It doesn't work that way. If you have an issue call TW and let them know. Just writing about it here will not get your problem fixed.

I got home today about 3:15 and I saw that my cable box had rebooted, it was on channel 2. I though to myself we got the rest of the HD channels that everybody else in northeast Ohio has. No, just the opposite, we lost all the HD channels we had in the 1600's and most in the 1800's. We are basically back to where we were before the SDV was initialize.
thanks Time Warner for nothing.

I just noticed the same thing. That is so frustrating! They have until Dec to get it straight or I will be going to satellite.


I got home today about 3:15 and I saw that my cable box had rebooted, it was on channel 2. I though to myself we got the rest of the HD channels that everybody else in northeast Ohio has. No, just the opposite, we lost all the HD channels we had in the 1600's and most in the 1800's. We are basically back to where we were before the SDV was initialize.
thanks Time Warner for nothing.

what channel is that on again ????

what channel is that on again ????

That one nonexistent channel which can be watched on DirecTV, Dish, Comcast, etc.

Based on the LA TWC system, it appears all we are missing from our lineup is:

Fuse HD
WGN HD
History International HD
Investigation Discovery HD
QVC HD
HSN HD
IFC HD
NHL HD
NBA HD
Tennis Channel HD
CBS Sports HD

Based on the LA TWC system, it appears all we are missing from our lineup is:

A few good channels, a few some-people-like-these, and a bunch of crap.

Another week goes by and we are still waiting in Amherst!

Based on the LA TWC system, it appears all we are missing from our lineup is:

Fuse HD
WGN HD
History International HD
Investigation Discovery HD
QVC HD
HSN HD
IFC HD
NHL HD
NBA HD
Tennis Channel HD
CBS Sports HD

This is interesting. I believe that Austin TX was the first TW town to go SDV. I wonder what their line up looks like?

I'd also like to know how we compare now with Columbus?

I'm hopeful that it might get changed, I got a response from Tribune Media saying they were forwarding my email to the people who handle line up changes. Found that kind of strange since that's the email address it gives. Hopefully they will get our guide data right, there are some shows on MSNBC HD I want to record.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/388634-NFL_Network_COO_Williams_Progress_Made_But_Distribution_Hole s_Remain.php?nid=2226&source=link&rid=6240895

This is interesting. I believe that Austin TX was the first TW town to go SDV. I wonder what their line up looks like?

I'd also like to know how we compare now with Columbus?

Here is our lineup here in Columbus, Ohio. The channels that say "coming soon" were just added on Wednesday. I'm wondering when/if they will start adding addional HBO's, Cinemax's, Starz' in the future. Anyway, our lineup is actually very competitive now.

740 Game HD
760 Team HD
1004 WCMH HD Columbus, OH (NBC)
1006 WSYX HD Columbus, OH (ABC)
1007 WOSU HD Columbus, OH (PBS)
1008 WTTE HD Columbus, OH (FOX)
1010 WBNS HD Columbus, OH (CBS)
1013 WWHO HD (CW)
1101 Disney HD
1102 Disney XD HD
1106 Cartoon Network HD
1112 ABC Family HD
1117 Hallmark Movie Channel HD
1130 Discovery Channel HD
1131 TLC HD
1132 Science Channel HD
1133 Animal Planet HD
1134 National Geographic HD
1135 History HD
1140 BIO HD
1144 HD Theater
1145 Smithsonian Channel HD
1150 HGTV HD
1151 Food Network HD
1155 Travel Channel HD
1156 Planet Green HD (Coming Soon)
1159 Style HD (Coming Soon)
1201 USA HD
1202 TBS HD
1203 TNT HD
1204 A&E HD
1205 FX HD
1208 E! HD (Coming Soon)
1209 Bravo HD
1214 WE HD (Coming Soon)
1217 TV One HD (Coming Soon)
1224 SyFy HD
1225 BBC America HD (Coming Soon)
1235 Universal HD
1267 Palladia HD
1276 TCM HD
1277 AMC HD
1278 LMN HD
1284 MGM HD
1301 ESPN-HD
1302 ESPN2 HD
1303 ESPNU HD
1305 ESPN News HD
1308 Sports Time Ohio HD
1309 Fox Sports Ohio HD
1310 Fox Sports Ohio HD Alternate
1316 Golf HD
1317 SPEED HD
1323 Versus HD
1326 MLB Network HD
1329 G4 HD (Coming Soon)
1330 Outdoor Channel HD
1333 Big Ten Network HD
1340 MavTV HD
1350 CNN HD
1351 HLN HD
1352 Fox News HD
1353 Fox Business Network HD (Coming Soon)
1354 MSNBC HD (Coming Soon)
1355 CNBC HD+
1370 The Weather Channel HD
1400 HD Showcase On Demand
1416 Big Ten Network HD On Demand
1420 Smithsonian HD On Demand
1500 Movies on Demand HD
1520 - 1528 Feature Movies on Demand HD
1603 HBO HD
1622 Cinemax HD
1642 Showtime HD
1677 Starz HD
1701 Pay Per View Events HD
1713 Adult On Demand HD
1999 Movies On Demand HD

like ours..

doing a look..I can't see what Columbus is getting that we are not in NE Ohio...unless I missed something..

This is interesting. I believe that Austin TX was the first TW town to go SDV. I wonder what their line up looks like?

I'd also like to know how we compare now with Columbus?

If you want to see the best lineup, look at NYC. They were the first to have the most channels because all analog outside of local broadcast was eliminated. And I've heard that they are still going to do SDV in that market, which means TWC must have plans for 100+ channels in the future.

OK TiVo people new guide data is here. Have your TiVo force a call if it hasn't called in already.

I deleted the NYC/NJ local channels but this is the rest of them

340 Adult HD On Demand
350 PPV for HD Only
411 TEAM HD
445 Game HD
461 NBA TV HD
465 The Tennis Channel HD
467 CBS College Sports HD
468 NHL Network HD
471 Big Ten Network HD On Demand
472 Big Ten Network HD
473 Big Ten 2
474 Big Ten 3
475 Big Ten 4
476 Big Ten 5
480 Outdoor Channel HD
481 Versus HD
482 The Golf Channel HD
651 HBO HD
652 HBO 2 HD
653 HBO Signature HD
654 HBO Family HD
655 HBO Comedy HD
656 HBO Zone HD
657 HBO Latino HD
658 Cinemax HD
659 More Max HD
660 ActionMAX HD
661 ThrillerMAX HD
662 W Max HD
663 @ Max HD
664 Five Star Max HD
665 Outer Max HD
666 Showtime HD
667 SHO 2 HD
668 Showcase HD
669 SHO Extreme HD
674 TMC HD
675 TMC Xtra HD
676 Starz HD
677 Starz Edge HD
678 Starz Kids & Family HD
681 Starz Comedy HD
682 Encore HD
685 BBC America HD
686 Crime and Investigation HD
687 Live Well HD
689 Style HD
691 fuse HD
692 G4 HD
698 Planet Green HD
699 HD Showcase On Demand
700 HD MOD+
703 TNT HD
708 TBS HD
710 FX HD
714 MSNBC HD
715 CNBC HD
716 USA HD
717 Syfy HD
718 Bravo HD
720 Palladia HD
723 Investigation Discovery HD
724 E! HD
726 SportsNet New York HD
727 MSG HD
728 ESPN HD
729 ESPN2 HD
733 QVC HD
734 Universal HD
738 ABC Family HD
739 HSN HD
740 History HD
743 Fox Business Network HD
744 Fox News HD
746 A&E HD
747 Telemundo HD
748 MSG Plus HD
749 Disney HD
750 Food Network HD
752 TLC HD
753 YES HD
754 AMC HD
758 Headline News HD
759 WE HD
760 Disney XD High Definition
761 Cartoon Network HD
763 BIO HD
764 HGTV HD
765 National Geographic HD
766 Discovery HD
767 HD Theater
772 Weather Channel HD
774 SPEED HD
775 Science Channel HD
778 CNN HD
780 Lifetime Movie Network HD
781 IFC HD
782 TCM HD
783 MLB Network HD
784 Hallmark Movie Channel HD
786 Animal Planet HD
787 MavTV HD
788 Travel Channel HD
790 TV One HD
791 Game HD
792 ESPN News HD
793 ESPNU HD
794 Smithsonian Channel HD On Demand
795 Smithsonian Channel HD
796 MGM HD

So how come they just add a little at a time? Why not just give us the channels and get it over with?

Because they want to justify price increases! Instead of one jump that would shock the crap out of us they plan on doing it in segments. Like the cable card price increase. Then it will be another price increase.

Or maybe just the technology is too fragile to do it all at one time. At the rate they are going it will be a while before we catch NYC.

if TWC actually delivered the CBS College Sports TV HD, NHL Network HD, and NBATV HD like they were supposed to earlier this month.
Subtract all the Regional Sports network HD channels in NYC
And from what I've seen the HD Premium sub-channels usually come all at once
and include useless channels such as HSN and QVC plus a few more
and we are caught up with the largest market

Hard to believe that we are almost to 700 pages. Hook and Nickdawg we have both of you to thank :) SDV has been stable for 2 days in Cleveland (Knock on Wood). Also Thanks Hook for contacting TiVo it is nice to be able to record shows on the new channels.

Hard to believe that we are almost to 700 pages. Hook and Nickdawg we have both of you to thank :) SDV has been stable for 2 days in Cleveland (Knock on Wood). Also Thanks Hook for contacting TiVo it is nice to be able to record shows on the new channels.

Well, I do have 1711 posts in this topic. :o

Also, as of 11/13/09 at 9:12pm, "Cleveland, OH - TWC" is second in posts behind "New York, NY - TWC". Cleveland has 20,960 posts, New York has 21,959 posts.

Well, I do have 1711 posts in this topic. :o

Also, as of 11/13/09 at 9:12pm, "Cleveland, OH - TWC" is second in posts behind "New York, NY - TWC". Cleveland has 20,960 posts, New York has 21,959 posts.

About 3/4 of those posts are you griping about something. The rest is actual useful information or arguing with me about my TiVo. ;)

Proud Flock Leader of 10 Parrots
MY NAME IS NOT BILL (but you can call me hook)

Uh-oh, did someone have a falling out with Tivo? I noticed you're no longer a proud owner. :p:p:p

Uh-oh, did someone have a falling out with Tivo? I noticed you're no longer a proud owner. :p:p:p
First let me say that your latest signature is dumb. I'd expect something clever from you.

The reason why I changed the signature is because I couldn't come up with anything that sounded right. Proud owner of the TiVo HD and the TiVo HD? Proud owner of 2 HD Tiivo's?

Did you know forum rules say you can't list your equipment? So I decided just to leave it out. I am pissed off about TiVo's customer service. But that had nothing to do with the signature change.

First let me say that your latest signature is dumb. I'd expect something clever from you..

haha, it's not permanent. And it's Friday night. I'm ready for bed. I'll try harder next time! ;)

Be sure to join us again next week, same dawg time, same dawg channel for another episode of "How To Inflate Your Post Count And Gripe About TWC". :p

Like I'd own a piece of disposable technology with a hard drive that can fail.

Umm, doesn't owning a computer usually fall under this category?

Umm, doesn't owning a computer usually fall under this category?

Maybe he rents his computer? :D :D

This is like a watched pot! it never boils. This has to be one of the longest pages ever :)

I never even notice the page numbers. I'll have to look at page 666 and see how evil nickdawg was during that period.:D:p

I just kid. This forum wouldn't be half as much fun without nickdawg. Sure he raises my blood pressure from time to time but he has such fantastic rants. Place wouldn't be the same without him.

Hard to believe that we are almost to 700 pages. Hook and Nickdawg we have both of you to thank :) SDV has been stable for 2 days in Cleveland (Knock on Wood). Also Thanks Hook for contacting TiVo it is nice to be able to record shows on the new channels.
I have a hunch that this post will turn the page, so to speak. If it doesn't, sorry for the static...

...w00t! ;)

Can we please keep on topic?

Well back on topic I had problems with a whole bunch of the SDV upper 400 series channels last night. Would either get a blanks screen or the channel no available message. I didnt check this morning.

So how come they just add a little at a time? Why not just give us the channels and get it over with?

Because they want to justify price increases! Instead of one jump that would shock the crap out of us they plan on doing it in segments. Like the cable card price increase. Then it will be another price increase.

But I thought Time Warner Cable was the "Home of Free HD"? ;)

or early December

any ideas if we are done for the year or will they add new channels that I can't get all the time but I do get a lovely message saying try again...

But I thought Time Warner Cable was the "Home of Free HD"? ;)

Yeah free if you have their DVR. Sooner or later you watch, they will charge us for the tuner adapter.

I don't understand how they figure out what is free HD and what is free with digital cable. It's an oxymoron. You need digital cable to get the "free" cable channels anyway. True you can somewhat get around it with qam but let's get realistic.:rolleyes:

haha, the Clowns got their ass handed to them. I'm so happy. That's what those idiots at WJW get for not showing Hose tonight.

Instead of a high rated FOX drama, we got to see a crappy high school football team get its ass kicked. What a waste.

haha, the Clowns got their ass handed to them. I'm so happy. That's what those idiots at WJW get for not showing Hose tonight.

Instead of a high rated FOX drama, we got to see a crappy high school football team get its ass kicked. What a waste.

House will be shown tonight. My DVR is set to record the series and I looked to see if it was going to record the game by mistake. It turns out the guide data already showed the game on WJW and House is shown for Tuesday with the record banner showing it scheduled to be recorded Tueday instead..

It was a pathetic game though. Like watching a train wreck. Its so sad to see the Browns as bad as they are.

Ray

House will be shown tonight. My DVR is set to record the series and I looked to see if it was going to record the game by mistake. It turns out the guide data already showed the game on WJW and House is shown for Tuesday with the record banner showing it scheduled to be recorded Tueday instead..

It was a pathetic game though. Like watching a train wreck. Its so sad to see the Browns as bad as they are.

Ray

You know House will be in SD in that little tiny window they use to box things up on WJW. That's going to suck. Also V and NCIS are on at the 8:00 hour. If that's when it's scheduled I'll have a conflict.

Yeah free if you have their DVR. Sooner or later you watch, they will charge us for the tuner adapter.

I don't understand how they figure out what is free HD and what is free with digital cable. It's an oxymoron. You need digital cable to get the "free" cable channels anyway. True you can somewhat get around it with qam but let's get realistic.:rolleyes:

I thought of that same thing too..not like HD channels available with basic service.

I am suprised Direct or Dish haven't jumped on that false advertising by TW..

I thought of that same thing too..not like HD channels available with basic service.

I am suprised Direct or Dish haven't jumped on that false advertising by TW..

They advertise "free HD" because Directv and Dish charge a $10 "HD access" fee each month in addition to their regular service packages. TWC does not have any such charge in addition to their service packages.

They advertise "free HD" because Directv and Dish charge a $10 "HD access" fee each month in addition to their regular service packages. TWC does not have any such charge in addition to their service packages.

Time Warner charges $8 to $16 for their boxes so you can receive HD.
Plus here in Amherst we are are still waiting for the majority of HD channels that you are receiving and we are paying the same rates as you are.

You know House will be in SD in that little tiny window they use to box things up on WJW. That's going to suck. Also V and NCIS are on at the 8:00 hour. If that's when it's scheduled I'll have a conflict.

**I'm going to my happy place** ;)

I understand the limitations of WJW and FOX, due to the crappy splicer system and the inability to record SD. But why can't they do something else? Last time I saw something recorded in SD from FOX, it had the "FOX HD available in HD" bug that appears after commercials, and it was windowboxed. Why not record it anamorph and show it SD widescreen? That would be better. Or at least crop it to 4:3 and show it that way. Bars on the sides: OK. Bars on top/bottom: NO!

House will also be on USA HD in 1080i in a week or two, depending on where they are with the replays.

JUST SAY NO TO WINDOWBOXING!

Well for whatever reason at least there won't be a scheduling conflict. I just double checked that and WJW is starting their small "House" at 6:59. Kind of a strange time to start, guess it must be 1:01 on the guide.

You know the more I think about it I say why should I have to look at that little mini version of House.

BT is your friend as well as mine. It will beat the crap out of what WJW will give us tonight.;)

USA HD is your friend. ;) USA replays House, usually a week behind. Not just in 720p, but 1080i HD. I'll wait for it.

USA HD is your friend. ;) USA replays House, usually a week behind. Not just in 720p, but 1080i HD. I'll wait for it.
USA may very well be my friend. But not for the next two weeks.

A quick search on my DVR's season pass for other episodes indicates that tonights episode, "Teamwork" is not on the schedule on USA HD.

And you act like being in 1080i is better then 720p. I don't think so. I prefer 720p. Shocking!:eek: nickdawg and I are disagreeing on something.

I'll just take my 720p right of the internet version. That will work fine for me.;)

They advertise "free HD" because Directv and Dish charge a $10 "HD access" fee each month in addition to their regular service packages. TWC does not have any such charge in addition to their service packages.
At least with Dish you get some extra channels that are HD only (HD NET, HD Movies, WFN, MGM, Discovery HD Theater [which I get for free on a "test channel" etc.) for that $10 fee.

I have an HD DVR but do not subscribe to HD programming (no HDTV yet). I'm "grandfathered" since I jumped onto the HD DVR bandwagon early. I still get my locals in HD (the big 4 via satellite, the rest OTA, plus everything SD via satellite) as well as FSN Ohio & STO in HD when games are on, and premiums (which I only got when they gave me 3 months free) all in HD without paying the $10. So who's the "home of free HD"?

BTW the HD signals I do get look great downrezzed on my Trinitron - better than anything SD.

USA may very well be my friend. But not for the next two weeks.

A quick search on my DVR's season pass for other episodes indicates that tonights episode, "Teamwork" is not on the schedule on USA HD.

And you act like being in 1080i is better then 720p. I don't think so. I prefer 720p. Shocking!:eek: nickdawg and I are disagreeing on something.

I'll just take my 720p right of the internet version. That will work fine for me.;)

I'll tell you a little secret: I'd prefer 720p too. The PQ on almost all the 1080i HD channels is so bad these days, they might as well broadcast at 720p. USA, TBS and TNT look worse than MLB channel, F/X and ESPNs. Assuming all the channels get roughly the same starved bandwidth, the 720p channels look better.

After seeing REAL HD, I'm never looking to the internet again. It's not worth wasting all that time downloading House, if it's gonna be on TV eventually. Either on USA HD or FOX in repeats eventually.

BTW the HD signals I do get look great downrezzed on my Trinitron - better than anything SD.

Does the Dish equipment have changeable aspect ratios? TWC's equipment is crap. Unless you use the component output, you get a forced picture with black or gray bars on the screen without any way to change it. It sucks because I got another HD box hoping I could do what I can with a $10 DTV converter. Nope. So my TV(also a Trinitron!:cool:) still gets to watch all the analog cable channels on their old numbers. :(

It really pisses me off that on 2009 a HD box cannot change out[ut formats, especially when DTV converters can.

I'll tell you a little secret: I'd prefer 720p too. The PQ on almost all the 1080i HD channels is so bad these days, they might as well broadcast at 720p. USA, TBS and TNT look worse than MLB channel, F/X and ESPNs. Assuming all the channels get roughly the same starved bandwidth, the 720p channels look better.

After seeing REAL HD, I'm never looking to the internet again. It's not worth wasting all that time downloading House, if it's gonna be on TV eventually. Either on USA HD or FOX in repeats eventually.

Just an FYI it took 30 minutes to download House. It will take about the same amount of time to upload it to my DVR. But I will agree compared to "real" HD Internet doesn't touch it.

Just an FYI it took 30 minutes to download House. It will take about the same amount of time to upload it to my DVR. But I will agree compared to "real" HD Internet doesn't touch it.

Cool. I guess my $19.95 AT&T internet service is pretty good. It used to take me about 30 minutes to download TV shows too. How much do you pay for internet again? :p:rolleyes:;):p

haha, the Clowns got their ass handed to them. I'm so happy. That's what those idiots at WJW get for not showing Hose tonight.

Instead of a high rated FOX drama, we got to see a crappy high school football team get its ass kicked. What a waste.The NFL requires that all nationally televised games be offered by a local station for OTA and basic cable customers who don't receive said national station. Also those 'idoits' made more money off the local ads that aired during that waste of time then they would have showing 'House', and that's really all they care about.

Just an FYI it took 30 minutes to download House. It will take about the same amount of time to upload it to my DVR. But I will agree compared to "real" HD Internet doesn't touch it.If you step away from torrents and looked at direct downloads you could have gotten a 720p rip of 'House' in that same time.

Cool. I guess my $19.95 AT&T internet service is pretty good. It used to take me about 30 minutes to download TV shows too. How much do you pay for internet again? :p:rolleyes:;):p

I don't know to be honest with you. I pay for so much crap from TW that I don't know what exactly I pay for stuff.

I had DSL once, it sucked in reliability but to be fair that was in the Cincinnati area and many years ago.

If you step away from torrents and looked at direct downloads you could have gotten a 720p rip of 'House' in that same time.

I haven't got a clue about what you're talking about, but welcome to the Forum anyway.:)

I had DSL once, it sucked in reliability but to be fair that was in the Cincinnati area and many years ago.

It hasn't changed that much... I daily work with a large number of VPN connections, and have significantly more issues with those that run over DSL vs. Cable...

It hasn't changed that much... I daily work with a large number of VPN connections, and have significantly more issues with those that run over DSL vs. Cable...
Any site you go to to test speed always has DSL listed slower then cable. I can't remember off hand how fast I test but I know its close to t3 speed (download). Using bt to measure how fast your speed compares with cable is hardly accurate. Besides when I said 30 minutes I was talking about a guess I didn't sit there and watch it.

Lots of other factors in downloading bt like seeds and leeches. Nickdawg just loves that land line.

Does the Dish equipment have changeable aspect ratios? TWC's equipment is crap. Unless you use the component output, you get a forced picture with black or gray bars on the screen without any way to change it. It sucks because I got another HD box hoping I could do what I can with a $10 DTV converter. Nope. So my TV(also a Trinitron!:cool:) still gets to watch all the analog cable channels on their old numbers. :(

It really pisses me off that on 2009 a HD box cannot change out[ut formats, especially when DTV converters can.Absolutely! On an HD channel I can switch between letterbox w/ gray bars, letterbox with black bars (my usual choice) stretch and 2 levels of zoom. The second level of zoom is more or less what you see when you are watching an SD feed of a local channel from cable or satellite. It perfect for 4 X 3 broadcasts on the locals, it gets rid of all the bars. It looks 100 X better than the SD feed of the same channel on my old Sony.

As long as the channel is HD you are in control of the aspect ratio. I'm willing to bet there are similar options on the HD output, hopefully including the SD channels in that case.

Absolutely! On an HD channel I can switch between letterbox w/ gray bars, letterbox with black bars (my usual choice) stretch and 2 levels of zoom. The second level of zoom is more or less what you see when you are watching an SD feed of a local channel from cable or satellite. It perfect for 4 X 3 broadcasts on the locals, it gets rid of all the bars. It looks 100 X better than the SD feed of the same channel on my old Sony.

As long as the channel is HD you are in control of the aspect ratio. I'm willing to bet there are similar options on the HD output, hopefully including the SD channels in that case.

TWC's boxes won't let you do that. I've tried every combination of Stretch vs. Zoom vs. Normal, 4x3 vs. 16x9 Aspect Ratio and 1080i, 720p, 480i and 480p. Regardless of what yo do the picture won't change unless you use the component output. Only the component output lets you change the picture size.

The stupid thing is it forces the IPG and all other UI screens/graphics to be 4x3, just like they were on the SD boxes. To be honest, I'd be happy if the box didn't have changeable aspect ratios, just force 4x3 output. Black bars on the screen are ever acceptable for me so I just watch the analog version of the channel. All the local channels are good with their downconversion.

Hey Time warner Cable,
Another week goes by and we are still waiting!