A glimmer of hope that we won't lose TW channels on Friday:
http://rolloverorgettough.com/sites/default/files/TWC_kerry_letter.pdf

I'm starting to wonder if everyday you wake up their is a TWC employee standing on your kitchen table and taking a piss in your fruit loops.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

No disrespect to our friend Nick, considering his cable problems and he is a great poster! However, that quote was one of the funniest things I have read on the board!!! Thanks Mike!

Jack

Just a quick note on my on going internet issue. We've discovered that we lose our connection every day at 9:20 am and 9:20 pm! Is that bazaar or what? I'm in touch with a supervisor at the Concord Office and he can't explain it. Someone is suppose to come out again today, a maintenance person. There was suppose to be someone out yesterday but I never saw him.

Maybe he can clear my driveway if nothing else?:p

Back on topic regarding this roll over or get tough stuff, there is something going on with FX that I'm watching. Nip/Tuck. The next episode is 1/6 and I believe there are 6 more episodes after that and then the series is over. Right now that would be the only problem I would have if we don't get those channels starting tomorrow.

A glimmer of hope that we won't lose TW channels on Friday:
http://rolloverorgettough.com/sites/default/files/TWC_kerry_letter.pdf

Oh well, looks like FOX is being as pig-headed as TW. Let's hope they get SPEED back on before the Daytona speed weeks......
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/football-simpsons-at-risk-in-fox-cable-dispute-155515.html?cxtype=rss_money_16350

Hook-I am a big fan of Nip/Tuck as well. I know Hulu has full episodes of the show, just don't know how quick they post them after the original air date. FYI, if you have some type of media center, IE a PS3 or something similar you can stream Hulu from your PC via the PlayOn application.

Well, apparently we have too much time on our hands so we adopted two puppies AND got a Tivo HD.

I called TWC in advance of receiving the box to schedule a cablecard/TA install. Had a nice chat with the CSR for some time. She was able to quote me the cablecard price and knew about the tuning adapter without me mentioning it. She couldn't figure out how to get the order to post in her system even after asking around and she's been there 3 years. I had to be kicked to a "resolution specialist" who is supposed to call me back to get the order in. I wish I could expect that this will be the most difficult part of getting the Tivo enabled. :)

I think I'm the only one hoping that FOX and CrapWarner don't reach an agreement. I mean CW raises their rates at least twice a year because they can, and then when a network raises its fee's they throw a hissy fit.

Plus I download all the tv shows I watch anyway. So losing "The Redneck Channel" Speed, and Fx(Which only has about 3 decent shows anyway) isn't a big deal for me.

Well, apparently we have too much time on our hands so we adopted two puppies AND got a Tivo HD.

I called TWC in advance of receiving the box to schedule a cablecard/TA install. Had a nice chat with the CSR for some time. She was able to quote me the cablecard price and knew about the tuning adapter without me mentioning it. She couldn't figure out how to get the order to post in her system even after asking around and she's been there 3 years. I had to be kicked to a "resolution specialist" who is supposed to call me back to get the order in. I wish I could expect that this will be the most difficult part of getting the Tivo enabled. :)

All I can say it lots of luck and the following advice: When they come out to install the cable card make sure they follow the instructions TiVo gave you to hand to them. Don't let them just do it on their own.

Back on topic regarding this roll over or get tough stuff, there is something going on with FX that I'm watching. Nip/Tuck. The next episode is 1/6 and I believe there are 6 more episodes after that and then the series is over. Right now that would be the only problem I would have if we don't get those channels starting tomorrow.

I saw an ad the other day, it's the final 9(i think) episodes starting in January. They're not gonna give into "FOX's outrageous demands". $1 for the series finale of Nip tuck is more than worth it.

And I absolutely refuse, will not watch it online. When TWC was playing crybaby with LIN TV, they told their customers to "watch your NBC programming online". Eff you!!! I do not pay over $100 a month for HDTV service for my 50 inch HDTV set just so I can squint at a 380i/p You Tube video on a 15 inch computer screen.

All I can say it lots of luck and the following advice: When they come out to install the cable card make sure they follow the instructions TiVo gave you to hand to them. Don't let them just do it on their own.

Thanks. Yes, I've already printed out a copy and explained the situation to my bitter half so she's fully aware of the situation as well. We've had enough run-ins with TWC technicians that couldn't isolate signal issues (we're in a development that's not yet built out and new houses being connected periodically) that we are very wary of TWC personnel that don't know what they are doing. I just hope I get a call back in a timely manner.

I saw an ad the other day, it's the final 9(i think) episodes starting in January. They're not gonna give into "FOX's outrageous demands". $1 for the series finale of Nip tuck is more than worth it.

And I absolutely refuse, will not watch it online. When TWC was playing crybaby with LIN TV, they told their customers to "watch your NBC programming online". Eff you!!! I do not pay over $100 a month for HDTV service for my 50 inch HDTV set just so I can squint at a 380i/p You Tube video on a 15 inch computer screen.

15 inch screen huh? Gee that's too bad if you had an iMac you could have a large 24" screen like I do.:p

But seriously I would never watch it on my computer either. As I said earlier I'll BT it, and in 720p too. I'm not sure who the bad guys are anymore. Fox won't give us a bone and extend broadcasting while negotiating. They won't go to binding arbitration. FOX is starting to look more and more like the bad guy.

Then again, come on. a buck a customer. TW are you so cheap that you can't reach into your massive profits and give them a buck more?

http://rolloverorgettough.com/zipcode/44310

I went to that stoopid "roll over or get tough" website and they have what channels are affected by zip code. Apparently Food Network is listed too.:confused:

http://rolloverorgettough.com/zipcode/44310

I went to that stoopid "roll over or get tough" website and they have what channels are affected by zip code. Apparently Food Network is listed too.:confused:

That's odd. All I lose is The Hillbilly Music Channel and FX
http://rolloverorgettough.com/zipcode/44705

Happy New Year. It's 12:50 am and with no agreement FXHD is still on.

I've just checked the Orlando Bright House Networks thread, and someone said that there has been an extension to the Fox-Time Warner negotiations until 3 A.M., Eastern time. (Time Warner negotiates for Bright House Networks.)

Food Network and HGTV went dark at midnight on Cablevision.

That's odd cuz it was listed on TWC's website too. Wonder whats gonna be turned off tomorrow.

OI've just checked the Orlando HDTV thread, and someone said that there has been an extension to the Fox-Time Warner negotiations until 3 A.M., Eastern time. (Time Warner negotiates for that area's cable company, Bright House Networks.)

Yes that's what I'm reading. That means it will go to 12am PST.

Niptuck commercial on F/X right now. F/X better be on my TV when that begins...

Roll over you stupid ****s at Time Warner!

First thing I did was check to see if FX was still on. It was. Next I grabbed my Droid and surfed to see what happened.

Apparently some type of deal has been worked out to carry FOX through the weekend, but beyond that who knows. The main thing is TW and FOX are talking and from what I read the talks are cordial.

I think Cablevision and Bright House may be having some issues, not that any of that is our concern. Not sure if FOX is still on but apparently Cablevision pulled the plug on Scripts saying it will not air anymore of their networks. I think that might be Food or some other garbage I never look at.

So the drama will return on Sunday night I imagine if nothing is set up permanently with FOX again. I want Nip/Talk in glorious HD so I can see all the bloody gross operations.:eek: Just kidding, but I really want to see the final episodes - I think it's 6 not 9. Damages is due to start soon and they don't usually run the two series at the same time.

When you think about it either one of them are in a good position. Satellite companies have announced they are prepared to take over if anything stalls out and FOX just can't afford to lose all the viewers in New York and Los Angeles, something like 16 million viewers.

First thing I did was check to see if FX was still on. It was. Next I grabbed my Droid and surfed to see what happened.

Apparently some type of deal has been worked out to carry FOX through the weekend, but beyond that who knows. The main thing is TW and FOX are talking and from what I read the talks are cordial.

I think Cablevision and Bright House may be having some issues, not that any of that is our concern. Not sure if FOX is still on but apparently Cablevision pulled the plug on Scripts saying it will not air anymore of their networks. I think that might be Food or some other garbage I never look at.

So the drama will return on Sunday night I imagine if nothing is set up permanently with FOX again. I want Nip/Talk in glorious HD so I can see all the bloody gross operations.:eek: Just kidding, but I really want to see the final episodes - I think it's 6 not 9. Damages is due to start soon and they don't usually run the two series at the same time.

When you think about it either one of them are in a good position. Satellite companies have announced they are prepared to take over if anything stalls out and FOX just can't afford to lose all the viewers in New York and Los Angeles, something like 16 million viewers.

Wikipedia has Season 7(6.5) slated as 9 episodes. Which makes sense as they'll end at episode 100. But like I said I just get the 720p rips online and stream to the tv via an xbox360.

Maybe we're both wrong. Could there be 8 episodes left?

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/niptuck-fx-series-cancelled-but-not-ending-soon/

Do the TWC legacy and old Adelphia digital cable systems use different feeds for the SD local channels? I noticed the "WKYCd" name on the old Adelphia system when I was at a relitives house. They also look a lot better than the same channels on my SDTV hooked up to a digital box...

CNN is reporting that TWC and Fox have reached an agreement. I'm on my Droid so I can't provide a link.

CNN is reporting that TWC and Fox have reached an agreement. I'm on my Droid so I can't provide a link.

That is correct.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2009-12-31-fox-time-warner-cable-dispute_N.htm

Maybe we're both wrong. Could there be 8 episodes left?

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/niptuck-fx-series-cancelled-but-not-ending-soon/Thats from 2008. They announced a while ago they where going to end at 100. Originally is supposed to go as a winter filler but something got axed before fall so we got season 6 early.

Hello All: I've been dealing with TWC here in Mayfield for the past three years. Thanks to this site I've had the necessary contact information to get me past the horrible customer service that TWC is known for. My recent cable bill arrived and my costs have risen due to my 1 year contract expiring.

I have a TIVOHD and love the UI, picture quality, etc... the thing I can't stand is having to reset the SDV tuning adapter once a month... or having to call TWC to try and get them to hit me with a new signal when a reboot of the TA doesn't work.

So here I am, debating whether or not to stick it out with TWC or make a move and try U-Verse. I see that consumer reports ranks U-Verse highly for the second year in a row and I've heard the picture quality is great. Of course making this change means my TivoHD will be sitting on my shelf or end up being sold. I know my Tivo subscription is up for renewal shortly (if it hasn't already done so).

So my question to you all is...Is U-Verse worth the switch, or do I hang on to TWC and hope they resolve the quality issues I continue to have? I'm willing to call and ask for better rates again...

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Why do you need to stop TiVo with U-Verse? They are compatible.

http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=403303.

If I could get U-Verse I'd drop TWC like a hot potato.

Edit: Make sure you can record more then 1 HD show at a time. I seem to remember that being an issue, not with TiVo but with U-Verse.

hookbill: After reading that thread more, and reviewing tivo's web site, it still shows the tivohd as being incompatible with U-verse. That was one of the first things I did.

hookbill: After reading that thread more, and reviewing tivo's web site, it still shows the tivohd as being incompatible with U-verse. That was one of the first things I did.
I read the first two posts, I didn't read the whole thread.

At the end of your service contract? Well, as I said in my edit if they can deliver more then 1 HD show at a time, go for it. It's just too much hassle even for a TiVo.

It's a shame that other areas can have the tuner adapter and no issues and we get the shaft over here.

Hi guys! I've been away from AVS for a while....can anyone give me an update on AT & T U-Verse? Good, bad or ugly? I'm in Strongsville currently with TWC.

Thanks in advance for the input.

Jim

Hi guys! I've been away from AVS for a while....can anyone give me an update on AT & T U-Verse? Good, bad or ugly? I'm in Strongsville currently with TWC.

Thanks in advance for the input.

Jim

Last I heard, the picture quality wasn't as good with U-verse as it was with either satellite or TWC. I have no complaints about my TWC picture quality, so I passed on U-verse. Also, you may have to get new cable outlets in your house for u-verse, since they can't use the TWC connections. That was another reason I passed.

Next round: Cablevision & Scripps.....
http://www.newsnet5.com/technology/22114379/detail.html?treets=nn5&tml=nn5_7am&ts=T&tmi=nn5_7am_1_06000101042010

Bottom line is that we customers of any pay services (sat & cable) are going to see some pretty sharp increases in our monthly bills in the near future as these networks and broadcasters get bolder and bolder.

Can't blame them wanting to get more for their product/service, but it's gonna cost us. :(

Those people at WJW sure are smart. They can put their school closing monstrosity over the Judge Judy show without reducing the picture size so you know, we can see the Judge Judy graphics.

And apparently the commercials are so sacred they cannot be desecrated by any graphics at all.

The morons who made that graphic should be in Judy's court. Fire the idiots.

Those people at WJW sure are smart. They can put their school closing monstrosity over the Judge Judy show without reducing the picture size so you know, we can see the Judge Judy graphics.

And apparently the commercials are so sacred they cannot be desecrated by any graphics at all.

The morons who made that graphic should be in Judy's court. Fire the idiots.

And one of the locals (I think CBS, possibly FOX) put the all important "it's January in NEO so there might be snow" warning RIGHT OVER the entire score graphics during the football game.

I honestly don't know who's dumber, the idiots that rely on such trivial crap or the local brainiac engineer who places such needless information in such an obstructive manner. :confused:

I honestly don't know who's dumber, the idiots that rely on such trivial crap or the local brainiac engineer who places such needless information in such an obstructive manner. :confused:

I vote for the idiot as the dumber. If the braniac engineer didn't run those messages, the idiot would sue the station when they got in a wreck - "but my TV didn't tell me there was snow outside"...

And one of the locals (I think CBS, possibly FOX) put the all important "it's January in NEO so there might be snow" warning RIGHT OVER the entire score graphics during the football game.

I honestly don't know who's dumber, the idiots that rely on such trivial crap or the local brainiac engineer who places such needless information in such an obstructive manner. :confused:

FOX had college football tonight. Wait, FOX had a graphic over the football game? Was it shown in SD? Unless something changed very recently, the way the splicer system is set up with FOX the affiliates can't do anything with the HD feed. They have to downconvert to SD and then insert the graphics. The weather and DTV crawls work that way, the school closings should be the same.

I blame the engineers. They seem to think they need a huge, garish, obtrusive, flashy graphic to display this info. A simple one line text crawl would accomplish the same job as 19's sadistic, always on three scrolling lines of death. It's not like that on the Youngstown stations.

And one of the locals (I think CBS, possibly FOX) put the all important "it's January in NEO so there might be snow" warning RIGHT OVER the entire score graphics during the football game.

I honestly don't know who's dumber, the idiots that rely on such trivial crap or the local brainiac engineer who places such needless information in such an obstructive manner. :confused:
Even worse that that: WVIZ interrupted a key moment of Masterpiece on Sunday night, audio and all, with an (automated) EANS alert about (another) lake-effect snow warning! Unless you could read lips, it completely trashed the show!

This is kind of semi directed at nickdawg but it's for everybody else too. Last night on Spike TV the new TNA Wrestling debuted on Monday night going up against WWE. And for those who know wrestling, you couldn't help but think about the old WCW because everybody, and I mean everybody from WCW was there.

They had the entire core group of the NWO including Scott Hall and Sean Waltman, Ric Flair was there, Sting, and of course Hulk Hogan himself. 3 hours worth of wrestling and none of those guys wrestled. The story line was taking on WWE. Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan are running the show, saying they whipped the WWE's butt before and they were going to do it again. Main event was Angle against A.J. Styles and it was PPV caliber. Mick Foley was there. Even the Nasty Boys were back. I mean they were pulling them out of the wood work, one surprise after another. Jeff Hardy has joined TNA also.

And I got to watch that all in analog. Lucky me.

It's time for TWC to bring Spike TV on board as a HD channel. Why it's taking this long is beyond me.

This renews my interest again in wrestling and I'd love to see TNA whip WWE in the ratings. I peaked in wrestling interest during the 90's when WCW was #1. Hope TNA can do the same thing, I hate Vince McMahann and WWE.

Hoping the next round of HD channels adds Spike to their list. After that I could care, everything I watch is now available in HD.

Sounds like you missed the return of Bret Hart on Raw (in HD!!) which was awesome.

This renews my interest again in wrestling and I'd love to see TNA whip WWE in the ratings. I peaked in wrestling interest during the 90's when WCW was #1. Hope TNA can do the same thing, I hate Vince McMahann and WWE.

Hoping the next round of HD channels adds Spike to their list. After that I could care, everything I watch is now available in HD.

Considering USAHD is widely available on cable and satellite providers and SPIKETV is not, looks like WWE is gonna keep winning for awhile.

And ass Comedy Central too. The Daily Show went HD and I still have to watch it in analog. :mad:

FOX had college football tonight. Wait, FOX had a graphic over the football game? Was it shown in SD? Unless something changed very recently, the way the splicer system is set up with FOX the affiliates can't do anything with the HD feed. They have to downconvert to SD and then insert the graphics. The weather and DTV crawls work that way, the school closings should be the same.

The game was definately cut to 4:3 when they put the weather graphic up.

And ABC local news when adding the school closing crawl to the bottom of the picture squashes the people into short and fat. Golly what great tecknology.
JJK

Good article on the introduction of 3D TV's:
http://www.tvpredictions.com/arrogant010610.htm

looks like no new hd for a bit as time warner updated there programming notices with nothing lol

Food Network and HGTV went dark at midnight on Cablevision.

That's odd cuz it was listed on TWC's website too. Wonder whats gonna be turned off tomorrow.

IIRC Food Network & HGTV are Scripps owned networks, not FOX.

I can't believe FOX would put the school closings/weather crap over a football game. I don't understand this trend of showing closings the night before. When I was in school(90s/early 2000s) we never had night before info. It was always a surprise to wake up and see that school is closed.

At least WEWS squashes the picture, you can still see it. WOIO and WJW just cover the bottom of the screen. Too bad just about everything I watch is on CBS or FOX and I watch zero shows on the ABC network.

So much for Mr. Jassshole's claim that we would have "close to 100" channels by the end of the year. If only I could apply "TWC Math" to other areas of life. It's OK, I have close to $100. When in reality it is nowhere near that! :rolleyes:

I have a question for the experts since I definitely am not when it comes to technology. I have one TW box with digital and HD tiers connected to my main tv in the basement. Can I just disconnect that box and attach it to another HD ready tv and be able to get all the HD channels? Not in too much of a hurry to push my bill over the 100.00 mark by just adding another box but if I have to I will I guess. Just wondering if it's an option. thanks.

I have a question for the experts since I definitely am not when it comes to technology. I have one TW box with digital and HD tiers connected to my main tv in the basement. Can I just disconnect that box and attach it to another HD ready tv and be able to get all the HD channels? Not in too much of a hurry to push my bill over the 100.00 mark by just adding another box but if I have to I will I guess. Just wondering if it's an option. thanks.
You can do it. But you would have to wait on the box to boot each time you did it. About 5 minutes each time.

You can do it. But you would have to wait on the box to boot each time you did it. About 5 minutes each time.

thanks for the info. I'll give it a try.

Never thought that Nickdawg would shrink to watching "Shrinkovision".
JJK

Has anybody heard when Time Warner will finish the SDV transition in the Elyria area, so we can start getting the HD channels the rest of northeast Ohio are receiving?

Has anybody heard when Time Warner will finish the SDV transition in the Elyria area, so we can start getting the HD channels the rest of northeast Ohio are receiving?

I was just wondering earlier today what was going on with you guys. You just gave me my answer.

I have been looking at things like Ohio Media Watch and not a word on what's going on over there. I feel sorry for you guys, in a way. SDV is not the greatest thing in the world, specially for TiVo owners here in N.E. Ohio.

Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.;)

Actually I have a feeling one of our members knows exactly what's going on in your area. And when he's quiet that means usually nothing is going on.

I called TWC in advance of receiving the box to schedule a cablecard/TA install. Had a nice chat with the CSR for some time. She was able to quote me the cablecard price and knew about the tuning adapter without me mentioning it. She couldn't figure out how to get the order to post in her system even after asking around and she's been there 3 years. I had to be kicked to a "resolution specialist" who is supposed to call me back to get the order in. I wish I could expect that this will be the most difficult part of getting the Tivo enabled. :)

Got the Tivo HD last night. Hooked up and forced it through the software update. The cablecard "installers" arrived a little over 2 hours after their 8-10am slot (of course). They briefly looked at the instructions, installed an M-card, and took about 15 minutes on the phone getting it paired. It appears that all channels work except the SDV ones, of course.

They had no idea what a tuning adapter was that was noted on the order form. A CSR let me know I would have to submit the "pre-order" form online and wait two weeks for my SDV channels. She claimed I couldn't do it earlier anyway since they have to see a paired cablecard for a Tivo noted before they will ship one out to my house.

http://sandwiches.s3.amazonaws.com/IMG_9436-small.jpg

Hey TWC!! Get off your lazy asses and add the Viacom HD channels. I want my MTV HD dammit!! Nah, I really want Comedy Central HD. :D

I was just wondering earlier today what was going on with you guys. You just gave me my answer.

I have been looking at things like Ohio Media Watch and not a word on what's going on over there. I feel sorry for you guys, in a way. SDV is not the greatest thing in the world, specially for TiVo owners here in N.E. Ohio.

Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.;)

Actually I have a feeling one of our members knows exactly what's going on in your area. And when he's quiet that means usually nothing is going on.

Going into the diagnostics I see we do have SDV activated and there is a handful of SDV channels hidden in the 1600's and the 1800's, but it has been that way since October. They must have major problems in our area (the reason Fry is no longer around) or they just don't care. I have tried emailing and calling TWC but can't get an answer. The worst part is that if you go to the TWC website to the channel lineup for the Elyria area all the HD channels that you get are listed, but we don't receive them, they must like rubbing our faces in it.

GREATPICTURE

Hey TWC!! Get off your lazy asses and add the Viacom HD channels. I want my MTV HD dammit!! Nah, I really want Comedy Central HD. :D
thank god ComedyCentral.com does 16x9 videos for now

Going into the diagnostics I see we do have SDV activated and there is a handful of SDV channels hidden in the 1600's and the 1800's, but it has been that way since October. They must have major problems in our area (the reason Fry is no longer around) or they just don't care. I have tried emailing and calling TWC but can't get an answer. The worst part is that if you go to the TWC website to the channel lineup for the Elyria area all the HD channels that you get are listed, but we don't receive them, they must like rubbing our faces in it.

Same thing going on here in North Ridgeville. No SDV and
25+ HD channels missing. The worst part is that we are still paying full price for all the missing stuff. As far as I know, the NR/Elyria area is the only one in the NEO area without these upgrades. Anyone in the know as to when this is going to happen? I think that almost a year is long enough to wait. (sorry, rant over)

Ben Music

Same thing going on here in North Ridgeville. No SDV and
25+ HD channels missing. The worst part is that we are still paying full price for all the missing stuff. As far as I know, the NR/Elyria area is the only one in the NEO area without these upgrades. Anyone in the know as to when this is going to happen? I think that almost a year is long enough to wait. (sorry, rant over)

Ben Music

You have a right to rant about. What a poor excuse for a cable company.

You have a right to rant about. What a poor excuse for a cable company.

I don't know what the hold up on this issue is but don't forget that TW is dealing with an old Comcast area. I'm not sticking up for TW, I feel they have had more then enough time to resolve this, still there may be technical difficulties that we don't know about.

If Comcast would have come in would that have made a difference? Well maybe you would all have TiVo software but I doubt there wouldn't be issues. Difference would be that we would be the ones screaming foul.

Unfortunately TW says you are getting the right channels for your area. Now I'm not one who believes in class action suites but in this case maybe one would be appropriate.

Then again you do have a choice. You can fire TW and go to satellite. Don't know why you havent done so already.

Come on Cathode Kid how about throwing these good people a bone.

Now I'm not one who believes in class action suites but in this case maybe one would be appropriate.

Oh come on.:rolleyes: I hate TWC as much as the next guy, actually more like the next 15 guys combined;), but I think a lawsuit is out of the question. TWC didn't sell a dangerous product or a defective product. They just lack HD channels.

I don't know what the hold up on this issue is but don't forget that TW is dealing with an old Comcast area. I'm not sticking up for TW, I feel they have had more then enough time to resolve this, still there may be technical difficulties that we don't know about.

If Comcast would have come in would that have made a difference? Well maybe you would all have TiVo software but I doubt there wouldn't be issues. Difference would be that we would be the ones screaming foul.

Unfortunately TW says you are getting the right channels for your area. Now I'm not one who believes in class action suites but in this case maybe one would be appropriate.

Then again you do have a choice. You can fire TW and go to satellite. Don't know why you havent done so already.

Come on Cathode Kid how about throwing these good people a bone.

Hook,
If you would go to the Time Warner website and lookup the channels for the Elyria area you would see the same channels listed that are in your area, the difference is that you actually receive them and we don't. So we are not getting the "right" channels.
The Mentor area is also old Comcast, but they are getting these channels, albeit a much smaller area.
I can't get satellite because of line of sight problems, but as soon as the weather brakes I will check into an over the air antenna and quit cable.

Hook,
If you would go to the Time Warner website and lookup the channels for the Elyria area you would see the same channels listed that are in your area, the difference is that you actually receive them and we don't. So we are not getting the "right" channels.
The Mentor area is also old Comcast, but they are getting these channels, albeit a much smaller area.
I can't get satellite because of line of sight problems, but as soon as the weather brakes I will check into an over the air antenna and quit cable.

Yes, the channel list upgrade happened just last week, and this has been the only glimmer of hope we had in the last year. Goldenager62, you hit the nail on the head when you said the Mentor area, which was part of our Elyria/NR head end, solved the old Comcast area proplems,
so that shouldn't be used as an excuse. Maybe something good will happen next week. We can all hope.

By the way, I do have Tivo, OTA, and Directv, so it's not that I don't have anything to watch or record. I just want to get what I pay for.

Ben Music

Yes, the channel list upgrade happened just last week, and this has been the only glimmer of hope we had in the last year. Goldenager62, you hit the nail on the head when you said the Mentor area, which was part of our Elyria/NR head end, solved the old Comcast area proplems,
so that shouldn't be used as an excuse. Maybe something good will happen next week. We can all hope.

By the way, I do have Tivo, OTA, and Directv, so it's not that I don't have anything to watch or record. I just want to get what I pay for.

Ben Music

If you are referring to the the channel lineup thats on the Time Warner website for the Elyria area, it has been that way for months, ever since Mentor got the new HD channels.
Like I said before, we do have SDV activated, there are handful in the 1800's. It been that way since the end of October. For some reason we are not getting all the HD channels.
Here is a list of SDV channels we have now:

1800 Chill
1804 TCM HD
1809 HLM HD
1810 FBN HD

If you have these channels you already have SDV activated.

I have an 8300HD box using MDN. I have an Apricorn 1TB external attached. I'm getting short bursts of pixelization on our local HD channels. This is pretty annoying, as the sound is affected too. The problem does not occur when the cable is hooked directly to the TV or if I unhook the hard drive. I've tried 2 different hard drives too, with the same problem occurring. Any suggestions?

I have an 8300HD box using MDN. I have an Apricorn 1TB external attached. I'm getting short bursts of pixelization on our local HD channels. This is pretty annoying, as the sound is affected too. The problem does not occur when the cable is hooked directly to the TV or if I unhook the hard drive. I've tried 2 different hard drives too, with the same problem occurring. Any suggestions?

Well, expect the problem to get worst, not better. Long before I got my TiVo I thought all that stuff was normal. Not only did I have the same problems you're talking about, I also had many partial recordings. I have read that many people have a problem with eSATA hard drives and SA 8300.

Your best bet is to get rid of the external drive and record less. Don't want to do that? Then get a TiVo.

I'm in the old Comcast area too and was considering a switch to DirecTV. Anyone know how much the cheapest Time Warner cable TV package costs and what channels you get? I would like to keep using my TiVoHD for local programming and I want to keep my internet connection.

If you are referring to the the channel lineup thats on the Time Warner website for the Elyria area, it has been that way for months, ever since Mentor got the new HD channels.
Like I said before, we do have SDV activated, there are handful in the 1800's. It been that way since the end of October. For some reason we are not getting all the HD channels.
Here is a list of SDV channels we have now:

1800 Chill
1804 TCM HD
1809 HLM HD
1810 FBN HD

If you have these channels you already have SDV activated.

Yes, I have those 4 channels plus Encore on 1624 and Encore Westerns on 1622. I went back and looked at the channel list again and found that you are correct that most of the new HD channels have been listed since about Oct 09. What I noticed on the latest list is that the little black triangles, which ment (coming soon) are now gone. Also, there are about 10+ more HD channels that were not on the Oct list. I take this as being a good sign of things to come.

Ben Music

Well right now I've got a flashing green light on my Tuner Adapter. This is the first time I actually saw it go out. Can't do anything about it tonight, I'm recording and I don't feel like going through some CSR. So tired of having this happen.

Why's it so quiet over here?

Because nothing and I mean nothing is going on with TWC? Well, they had a couple of small outages today but nothing major. Nothing new is up at their web site.

For the Elyria people I sent OMW an email asking him to look into your situation for you guys. I told him that if you don't get your HD channels I'm afraid there might be a riot in the area. He's got contacts so maybe he can help you out.

I don't know if I have a contact anymore. My call wasn't returned yesterday concerning my TA. I had to get it fixed by "other" means.:cool:

I think the local person in erie got the boot when Fry left. I haven't got my email returned about the future of viacom HD channels in NEO

I just had TWO cable guys here in North Ridgeville doing a service call at my house, and they said they have no idea when we are getting SDV. The one cable guy says he talks to the tech in the area all the time that would know and he doesn't know. He told me when we finally do get SDV, my black SDV box (that I got last summer) for my TiVo will not work.

Anyways, the one cable guy told me they still have a lifeline basic package available for around $10 a month. I may just get that and get DirecTV and take advantage of this offer (http://www.costco.com/Service/FeaturePage.aspx?ProductNo=11487865). I was waiting for a new DirecTiVo but it doesn't look like that's coming out anytime soon, if at all, after reading the TiVo forum.

One more thing, does anyone have a Sony DHG-HDD250 or DHG-HDD500 DVR working in the area? I've never been able to get one of these to work with a Scientific Atlanta cable card. They brought me a multi-stream card today because they say multi-stream cards are all they have now. I only get the local HD channels and TBS-HD with it right now. Hopefully more channels will come in soon.

One more thing, does anyone have a Sony DHG-HDD250 or DHG-HDD500 DVR working in the area? I've never been able to get one of these to work with a Scientific Atlanta cable card. They brought me a multi-stream card today because they say multi-stream cards are all they have now. I only get the local HD channels and TBS-HD with it right now. Hopefully more channels will come in soon.

The Sony DVR's aren't compatible with the tuning adapter so you can't the other HD channels. With a Tuning adapter you would get more channels. Sony has no plans to support the Tuning adapter so you're stuck.

The Sony DVR's aren't compatible with the tuning adapter so you can't the other HD channels. With a Tuning adapter you would get more channels. Sony has no plans to support the Tuning adapter so you're stuck.

Thanks but that wasn't what I was asking and perhaps I should have been more clear. I just want my Sony to at least get the non-SDV channels.

Unfortunately the few channels I was getting are now gone on the Sony DVR. I'm going to call the national cable card support and see what they say. I wasn't expecting it to work anyways, and I'll probably have to drop the cable card back off at the local Time Warner office this weekend.

Why's it so quiet over here?

Because nothing and I mean nothing is going on with TWC? Well, they had a couple of small outages today but nothing major. Nothing new is up at their web site.

For the Elyria people I sent OMW an email asking him to look into your situation for you guys. I told him that if you don't get your HD channels I'm afraid there might be a riot in the area. He's got contacts so maybe he can help you out.

I don't know if I have a contact anymore. My call wasn't returned yesterday concerning my TA. I had to get it fixed by "other" means.:cool:

Thanks for trying

Come on Cathode Kid how about throwing these good people (Elyria) a bone.

They might notice some activity tomorrow morning. ;)

They might notice some activity tomorrow morning. ;)

Now that sounds pretty promising. Cathode Kid doesn't give much warning but he's about 99% accurate. I can think of only 1 time he missed. Sort of.:)

Cathode Kid predict when Viacom HD channels will appear

They might notice some activity tomorrow morning. ;)

I won't believe until I see it in Elryia/North Ridgeville. Although Avon Lake and Bay Village supposedly got more Hi-def channels today.

The problem is folks in my area with TiVoHD's are screwed with their SDV boxes according to 2 cable guys I talked to. They won't work when we do go SDV.

They might notice some activity tomorrow morning. ;)

Nothing going on here.

Nothing going on here.

Well its technically morning until 11:59AM.

I'm hoping you far west siders finally get this taken care of. We in Mentor were playing the waiting game with you for quite a few months and I thought as soon as one of us old Comcast areas received the lineup the other would follow shortly. That unfortunately has not been the case.

Ray

They might notice some activity tomorrow morning. ;)

Still nothing

Well I just sent a nice email to the presidents of TWC NEO and in the message I said

Other Time Warner Cable divisions across the country are getting the Viacom networks in HD added to their lineup. When will I and the rest of the Time Warner Cable North East Ohio and Western Pennsylvania subscribers be receiving these networks. In certain markets there are Samsung set-top boxes will these ever reach our area? Lastly, will there be a major navigator update sometime later this year?

I hope I get a legitimate answer not some PR garbage.

I think that the Samsung boxes have already reached here. I believe I saw it discussed in a post. A certain well known member who's name I won't mention said it was a pos.

I think if he gives you a genuine response it will be "Hell, we can't even deliver the channels we have to certain areas. And you're complaining about a few others?":)

Listen up Elyria people. I still have faith in Cathode Kid. He said something "might" happen not something "will" happen. So keep checking today, tomorrow. Some times he's a day or so off. Sometimes it's been a week and only one time can I remember him missing the target completely.

Also I read a comment about techs saying boxes not having the ability to work with SDV. They may have been referring to the old Moto boxes, and that's right they won't work. But I can't think of a reason that the SA 8300 boxes wouldn't work.

I've been reading samsung threads they fixed the software and the non-DVR ones work fine now.
The DVR ones are still broken

I've been reading samsung threads they fixed the firmware and they work fine now.

So what do they do that the SA 8300 doesn't do? I mean other then reliably record shows, we all know you can't count on the SA 8300 to do that.;)

Look sleeker and painted black besides that they still have Navigator which is the root of all evil

Look sleeker and painted black besides that they still have Navigator which is the root of all evil

Hmmmm....Get a can of spray paint and paint that sucker black. Rustoleom makes a great gloss black, lol.

I know everything is black these days, it's such a dust collector though.

So what do they do that the SA 8300 doesn't do? I mean other then reliably record shows, we all know you can't count on the SA 8300 to do that.;)

The Samsung boxes are sh-t. You should be thankful they haven't contaminated our area yet. Last I read about them the Navigator software crashes and you can't access the guide or digital channels or recorded shows. Plus there's still some errors with the external hard drive(tho the internal drive is a little bigger). Also, and this is the worst of all, you know how now the SARA and Navigator IPG has black bars on the side of the screen on HDTVs? The Samsung boxes stretch the IPG, channel banner and DVR menu. And there's no way to undo that.

So a fugly black box with a fugly UI full of bugs, I wouldn't take that if TWC paid ME. I like my silver 8300.

it has to be better than the 4250HDC that thing makes odd noises in the middle of the night and never works right

it has to be better than the 4250HDC that thing makes odd noises in the middle of the night and never works right

Kind of apples and oranges. The 4250 is not a DVR. I had one of those and I never heard noises from it.

I swear mine is demonic because every one else's 4250 is fine. Maybe if I actually swapped out for a different one it wouldn't be so bad.

it has to be better than the 4250HDC that thing makes odd noises in the middle of the night and never works right

I think that box needs to be replaced. There's no normal reason why a non DVR box should be making noise. :confused:

The 4250 is a rather attractive looking box. I find the Samsung to be a bit ugly. I think it doesn't even have a clock on the front panel.

I have two black Samsung 3090's and they both work fine. Yes, the guide is stretched, but it's clear and easy to read. I record everything to watch later and never lost anything. After hearing about all the problems everyone had with the SA's, I jumped from the Moto box right to the Samsung's.

Ben Music

Listen up Elyria people. I still have faith in Cathode Kid. He said something "might" happen not something "will" happen. So keep checking today, tomorrow. Some times he's a day or so off. Sometimes it's been a week and only one time can I remember him missing the target completely.

Thanks Hookbill. Unfortunately "activity" does not always equal "completion in one night." Patience...

CK

Thanks Hookbill. Unfortunately "activity" does not always equal "completion in one night." Patience...

CK
I've got nothing to be patient about. I think the people in Elyria have run out of patience. And rightfully so.

Thanks Hookbill. Unfortunately "activity" does not always equal "completion in one night." Patience...

CK

It has been 16 months since I received the letter that SDV activation would start in October 2008.

TWC can never "complete" any activity in one night.

That's why I'm banging TWC's wife!! ;):p

Speaking of SDV problems. Ongoing in the former Adelphia area various what I assume are SDV channels will either not select or when selected they will lose audio and video. It seems not always to be the same channel. Could this be an overall bandwidth problem ?
Dave

Speaking of SDV problems. Ongoing in the former Adelphia area various what I assume are SDV channels will either not select or when selected they will lose audio and video. It seems not always to be the same channel. Could this be an overall bandwidth problem ?
Dave

It's hard to say since we don't know specifically which channels you're talking about.

When you say they lose audio and video is there a message? If there isn't a message it could be that you have a signal problem. I haven't experienced this myself and I live in the old Adelphia area. But you and I may not look at the same channels.

With SDV there really shouldn't be a bandwith problem. There MAY be a problem with the ancient equipment handling SDV and the type of firmware they are using (SARA).

MY #1 problem right now with TW is my Tuner Adapters getting knocked off line about 1 every 3 weeks. As far as PQ of shows goes, and this is on SDV I'm satisfied. Sort of.;)

bassguitarman:
I am also former Adelphia.
what you described happens to me all the time as well.
Mostly after SDV and "start over"
most noticeably on HD channels
Happens at all times in evening (only time I watch)
sometimes worse than others, meaning from mild annoyance to unwatchable.
I usually end up switching to non HD channel and the problem is not so evident there.

Thanks, in addition to evenings I noticed it over the weekend during the day

Hey Time Warner, we're still waiting.

Hey Time Warner, we're still waiting.

You're an optimist. I gave up.

You're an optimist. I gave up.

I had some hope when Cathode Kid made his last statement, but I guess your right.

Cathode Kid is usually right about everything for once even the great CK was incorrect.

Cathode Kid is usually right about everything for once even the great CK was incorrect.

Nah.... He *was* right, but TWC hired some goon to watch this forum - when they saw CK's prediction, they changed their schedule at the last minute so that his prediction wouldn't come true.

Nah.... He *was* right, but TWC hired some goon to watch this forum - when they saw CK's prediction, they changed their schedule at the last minute so that his prediction wouldn't come true.

Typical time warner giving false hope

We did have some changes here in the Elyria area. We did had three SDV channels in the 1800's, now we have two. Not exactly what I would call progress.

just wanted to let everyone know in the elyria/north ridgeville area that we now have a ton of new hd channels (fx, versus, bravo, animal planet, just to name a few)
**** i think these are all the channels everyone else has had for months :rolleyes:

just wanted to let everyone know in the elyria/north ridgeville area that we now have a ton of new hd channels (fx, versus, bravo, animal planet, just to name a few)
**** i think these are all the channels everyone else has had for months :rolleyes:

Great news. CK was off a few days but it did happen. Congratulations!

just wanted to let everyone know in the elyria/north ridgeville area that we now have a ton of new hd channels (fx, versus, bravo, animal planet, just to name a few)
**** i think these are all the channels everyone else has had for months :rolleyes:

Nothing here yet in the communities just west of Elyria. Time Warner must hate us.

Awesome! Now I just have to get my tuning adapter working for my TiVo. I restarted my Tuning Adapter and my TiVo and no luck. It has to be something on Time Warner's end.

New Time Warner chief story on ABJ website.
http://www.ohio.com/news/82212192.html

Sorry I'm not confident a Wall Street guy is going to fix anything but fill his own pockets with our cash.

Finally, finally, finally 40 new HD channels.
Now I want more.

Finally, finally, finally 40 new HD channels.
Now I want more.

Hey! Give CK credit wen due. He seas only off by 4 days..

Welcome to SDV

Finally, finally, finally 40 new HD channels.
Now I want more.

Robin Meade in HD...a good thing

Keith O in HD.....:eek:

Welcome Vin Zachariah and hope you don't mess up like Fry did

Finally, finally, finally 40 new HD channels.
Now I want more.

Still nothing new in North Ridgeville. I have noticed a few things in the past few days. All the Quam locals are gone and the preview channels in the 1600's thru 1800's are gone. Now that the Elyria node is on with the new HD, I have to believe NR won't be far behind.

I did find out one thing from a TW rep that I hadn't heard yet. All the HD chans will soon be realigned to the 1000's.
For example, HD Ch 3 (now 403) will become 1003. HD Ch 5 (now 405) will become 1005 etc. When I was in Cinci during the holidays, I noticed that TWC had already done this.

Ben Music

Still nothing new in North Ridgeville. I have noticed a few things in the past few days. All the Quam locals are gone and the preview channels in the 1600's thru 1800's are gone. Now that the Elyria node is on with the new HD, I have to believe NR won't be far behind.

I did find out one thing from a TW rep that I hadn't heard yet. All the HD chans will soon be realigned to the 1000's.
For example, HD Ch 3 (now 403) will become 1003. HD Ch 5 (now 405) will become 1005 etc. When I was in Cinci during the holidays, I noticed that TWC had already done this.

Ben Music

yeah cinci did that over the summer before i move back home to cleveland.

Hey! Give CK credit wen due. He seas only off by 4 days..

Actually we did not get the HD channels some time last night. Woke up this morning and saw that the cable box had been rebooted. So that makes it exactly a week that CK made his statement.
But you are right, thank God somebody knows what's going on at Time Warner Cable, because when I called them to ask about it they had no idea what I was talking about.
Thank you CK for the update.

Still nothing new in North Ridgeville. I have noticed a few things in the past few days. All the Quam locals are gone and the preview channels in the 1600's thru 1800's are gone. Now that the Elyria node is on with the new HD, I have to believe NR won't be far behind.

I did find out one thing from a TW rep that I hadn't heard yet. All the HD chans will soon be realigned to the 1000's.
For example, HD Ch 3 (now 403) will become 1003. HD Ch 5 (now 405) will become 1005 etc. When I was in Cinci during the holidays, I noticed that TWC had already done this.

Ben Music

I live about 5 miles west of Elyria and we got them sometime in the middle of the night and Elyria got them yesterday. I I were to bet I would say sometime today or tomorrow morning you should have it.

I did find out one thing from a TW rep that I hadn't heard yet. All the HD chans will soon be realigned to the 1000's.
For example, HD Ch 3 (now 403) will become 1003. HD Ch 5 (now 405) will become 1005 etc. When I was in Cinci during the holidays, I noticed that TWC had already done this.

Ben Music

Yeah Direct TV does that. SD channel is XXX HD channel is 1XXX
and I read else where that this is going to be commonplace around all TWC divisions

Yeah Direct TV does that. SD channel is XXX HD channel is 1XXX
and I read else where that this is going to be commonplace around all TWC divisions

Actually, I think you will find that there are 2 XXX choices in the edit list. One is SD and one is HD. You can set your favorites list to all HD, or all SD, or a combition of both.
The 1XXX (1000 to 1999) are all (VOD) Vidio on demand channels.

Ben Music

Finally, here in Amherst too! Excited!!!

Still nothing new in North Ridgeville. I have noticed a few things in the past few days. All the Quam locals are gone and the preview channels in the 1600's thru 1800's are gone. Now that the Elyria node is on with the new HD, I have to believe NR won't be far behind.

I did find out one thing from a TW rep that I hadn't heard yet. All the HD chans will soon be realigned to the 1000's.
For example, HD Ch 3 (now 403) will become 1003. HD Ch 5 (now 405) will become 1005 etc. When I was in Cinci during the holidays, I noticed that TWC had already done this.

Ben Music

I live in North Ridgeville and I got the new HD channels yesterday.

Hey! Give CK credit wen due. He seas only off by 4 days..

Thanks, Hook. Pulling the arrows out of my back now. :)

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Well the HD Channels moving is official

Cathode Kid use your magic and tell us when we get Comedy Central, Spike, and other viacom channels in HD


I was looking at the Elyria area and Cleveland brochures and noticed that
471 MTV HD
472 CMT HD
473 VH-1 HD
474 BET HD
475 Comedy HD
479 Spike HD
458 Nick HD
effective 1/26/10

http://www.twclineup.com/lineups0208/TWNEO5935CityofClevelandMigrationLU021908.pdf

but when I look at my brochure(Erie suburbs) these channels aren't listed

EDIT 5: Well I be darned my area brochure is the only one without those channels listed I just checked the city of Erie's brochure those are listed

Cathode Kid use your magic and tell us when we get Comedy Central, Spike, and other viacom channels in HD


I was looking at the Elyria area and Cleveland brochures and noticed that
471 MTV HD
472 CMT HD
473 VH-1 HD
474 BET HD
475 Comedy HD
479 Spike HD
458 Nick HD
effective 1/26/10

http://www.twclineup.com/lineups0208/TWNEO5935CityofClevelandMigrationLU021908.pdf

but when I look at my brochure(Erie suburbs) these channels aren't listed

EDIT 5: Well I be darned my area brochure is the only one without those channels listed I just checked the city of Erie's brochure those are listed

Do I know TWC, or do I know TWC?? Check out my predictions from December 20, 2009!! :cool:

493 Fuse HD
494 IFC HD
495 Encore HD
652 Showtime 2 HD
661 TMC HD

Future channel wise I find it really interesting that Fuse HD is located on channel 493, rather than closer to 470 where Palladia is. It seems like it would make more sense to have the music channels MTV, BET, VH1 and CMT together with Fuse, like the SD lineup. Something like:
471 MTVHD
472 VH1 HD
473 BET HD
474 CMT HD
475 Fuse HD

Then that leaves:
458 Nickelodeon HD
475 Comedy Central HD
477 SPIKE HD
479 TruTV HD

New Time Warner chief story on ABJ website.
http://www.ohio.com/news/82212192.html

Sorry I'm not confident a Wall Street guy is going to fix anything but fill his own pockets with our cash.

I'm sure he can do a helluva lot better than a pole jockey turned president, like Fry. :D:rolleyes:

All the HD chans will soon be realigned to the 1000's.
For example, HD Ch 3 (now 403) will become 1003. HD Ch 5 (now 405) will become 1005 etc. When I was in Cinci during the holidays, I noticed that TWC had already done this.

Ben Music

Are you serious? They're gonna move the channels again? I don't like this four digit channel crap. F-ck that.:mad:

Still nothing new in North Ridgeville. I have noticed a few things in the past few days. All the Quam locals are gone and the preview channels in the 1600's thru 1800's are gone. Now that the Elyria node is on with the new HD, I have to believe NR won't be far behind.


Ben Music

Ben all the Q locals are now in their "real" channel positions 3,3.1, 3.2, 5,5.1. also I see that 43.2 ( this TV) is also now available hadn't seen it at least in the NR/Ely/AMH zone before now

475 Comedy HD
479 Spike HD
458 Nick HD
effective 1/26/10It would be a day late(If their added when they say) but, I'll take what ever present I can get from good ole TWC.

At least a pole jockey would know how to fix something. It cracks me up when they say they are hiring more CSR's. Yup more people to answer our phone calls, but no more technicians to fix their SDV problems.

Being a PBS fan and having to rescan my one tv(QAM), I found that it had WNEO HD channel but no WVIZ HD channel. My other tv with a cable box(4250) I receive WVIZ HD but no WNEO HD. Maybe CK can or anybody else enlighten me on why that is.

Being a PBS fan and having to rescan my one tv(QAM), I found that it had WNEO HD channel but no WVIZ HD channel. My other tv with a cable box(4250) I receive WVIZ HD but no WNEO HD. Maybe CK can or anybody else enlighten me on why that is.

In the Kent area I have run multiple QAM scans on multiple TVs in our house and WEWS and WJW are missing!!

Cathode Kid use your magic and tell us when we get Comedy Central, Spike, and other viacom channels in HD


I was looking at the Elyria area and Cleveland brochures and noticed that
471 MTV HD
472 CMT HD
473 VH-1 HD
474 BET HD
475 Comedy HD
479 Spike HD
458 Nick HD
effective 1/26/10

http://www.twclineup.com/lineups0208/TWNEO5935CityofClevelandMigrationLU021908.pdf

but when I look at my brochure(Erie suburbs) these channels aren't listed

EDIT 5: Well I be darned my area brochure is the only one without those channels listed I just checked the city of Erie's brochure those are listed

hope this is true......<waiting on ck to confirm>

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Well no news of future HD Channels

Being a PBS fan and having to rescan my one tv(QAM), I found that it had WNEO HD channel but no WVIZ HD channel. My other tv with a cable box(4250) I receive WVIZ HD but no WNEO HD. Maybe CK can or anybody else enlighten me on why that is.

Try moving your 4250 box to the cable-ready QAM tv set and see if you get WVIZ-HD on that outlet. If you don't, you might have high-end rolloff at that outlet. If you do get it there, go go th e box's diagnostic screens and see if WVIZ-HD is encrypted (it's not supposed to be).

Try moving your 4250 box to the cable-ready QAM tv set and see if you get WVIZ-HD on that outlet. If you don't, you might have high-end rolloff at that outlet. If you do get it there, go go th e box's diagnostic screens and see if WVIZ-HD is encrypted (it's not supposed to be).

What I did do was I disconnected the cable from the box and hooked it directly to the TV and did a scan, the results were the same thing I had with the other TV.
What also seems strange is that we never had WNEO HD before on QAM or with the 4250 box, and we have had WVIZ HD all along.
Also what do you mean my a high-end rolloff?

What I did do was I disconnected the cable from the box and hooked it directly to the TV and did a scan, the results were the same thing I had with the other TV.
What also seems strange is that we never had WNEO HD before on QAM or with the 4250 box, and we have had WVIZ HD all along.
Also what do you mean my a high-end rolloff?

High end rolloff means that the higher frequencies on the cable are arriving at a lower amplitude than the lower frequencies. It's part of the physics of signal transmission over copper wire - the higher frequencies will always be attenuated more than the lower ones. Cable companies compensate for this by amplifying the higher frequencies more than the lower ones as the signals travel down the trunk lines.

There are a number of things that can cause excessive high end rolloff, including water ingress into the cable, which acts as a low pass filter (series inductance with shunt capacitance), allowing the lower frequencies to get thru the wire more easily than the higher ones. A severely crimped cable or a poorly made fitting can cause similar issues.

HD channels are more sensitive to low signal levels (rolloff) than SD channels due to the denser 256-QAM modulation profile needed for HD delivery. Industry specs call for a signal range of +15 to -15dbmv for SD channels (64-QAM) but there's a tigher requirement of +15 to -12dvmv for HD (256-QAM) channels. Note the minimum signal level is higher for 256-QAM.

Are you serious? They're gonna move the channels again? I don't like this four digit channel crap. F-ck that.:mad:

The last time when they moved the HD channels from the 700's to the 400's that went pretty smoothly, at least from my point of view. My only concern was did TiVo go into the 1000's. I'm happy to say it does, so if this is handled the way it was the last time all my season passes will automatically be moved to the proper location.

Personally though if it was up to me I would rather have them just let it be, but it isn't and change is always inevitable.

Which is the better DVR, the SA or the Samsung or is their another make available.

Which is the better DVR, the SA or the Samsung or is their another make available.

I have two of the black Samsung 3090 dvr's that I got from the Elyria office on Ternes ave. Have had no problems with them at all. I can't see any differance between the live or recored playback on my 60" Sony. The black remote is easy to read. Mostly light gray buttons on a black background. Hope this helps.

Ben Music

I have two of the black Samsung 3090 dvr's that I got from the Elyria office on Ternes ave. Have had no problems with them at all. I can't see any differance between the live or recored playback on my 60" Sony. The black remote is easy to read. Mostly light gray buttons on a black background. Hope this helps.

Ben Music

Does anyone have one of the Samsung 3270 boxes. Comments on pluses and minuses?

I have two of the black Samsung 3090 dvr's that I got from the Elyria office on Ternes ave. Have had no problems with them at all. I can't see any differance between the live or recored playback on my 60" Sony. The black remote is easy to read. Mostly light gray buttons on a black background. Hope this helps.

Ben Music

Yes it does help, thanks for the info.

has anyone confirmed the viacom channels coming on hd today (or soon)? just wondering whether i should be looking for an update to come across, or need to reset my box.

TWC lied again.

Did they even announce that we were getting new channels? or is it just from the brochure?

My TiVo's gave me a channel line up change notice last night. Usually if they are changing one channel, they are changing more of them. Since when were the Viacom channels suppose to be added? Maybe TiVo added them. I'll look.

Edit: I didn't see any new HD channels, looks like they deleted channel 140. Whatever that was.

It was never officially announced it was just on the brochures
also a bunch of my channels were deleted in the 250s

The same thing happened with MSNBC, BBC HD and G4. They had other channels listed to be added, then deleted that. Those channels were added without being announced.

Usually TWC DOESN'T list channels we already have. It's strange if they would list channels we don't have.

I just bought a 26" Insignia HDTV/DVD player at Best Buy. Partly to use as a Computer monitor and also for an extra room for Cable TV.

I scanned the Cable Channels and got pretty much what one usually gets from TWC with just a cable line in the back of the set.

The odd thing I saw is, they number the digital channels mixed in with the analog..Couple of examples:

Analog channel 9 WOIO CBS 19

19-1 and 19-2 are listed after WGN 18, QVC 19 and before ABC Fam-20

another more complete example:

2-WVIZ analog
3-WKYC analog
3.1 WKYC HD
3.2 Weather
4 WBNX analog
5 WEWS analog
5.1 WEWS HD
6 WUAB analog
7 WDLI analog
8 WJW analog
8.1 WJW HD
9 WOIO
10 WVPX
11 Canton City Schools
12 WEAO
13 WRLM

This is different from always having separate analog and digital scans

My Kitchen 32" Dynex scans the same way.

I just bought a 26" Insignia HDTV/DVD player at Best Buy. Partly to use as a Computer monitor and also for an extra room for Cable TV.

I scanned the Cable Channels and got pretty much what one usually gets from TWC with just a cable line in the back of the set.

The odd thing I saw is, they number the digital channels mixed in with the analog..Couple of examples:

Analog channel 9 WOIO CBS 19

19-1 and 19-2 are listed after WGN 18, QVC 19 and before ABC Fam-20

another more complete example:

2-WVIZ analog
3-WKYC analog
3.1 WKYC HD
3.2 Weather
4 WBNX analog
5 WEWS analog
5.1 WEWS HD
6 WUAB analog
7 WDLI analog
8 WJW analog
8.1 WJW HD
9 WOIO
10 WVPX
11 Canton City Schools
12 WEAO
13 WRLM

This is different from always having separate analog and digital scans

These digital locals used to be placed in Quam digital positions that were in the upper channel ranges like 118.1 etc. Now that SDV is here, those upper digital quam positions are needed for the SDV channels. So what they did was a remap of those digital locals, down to their proper order with the std def channel numbers. These of course, are all HD channels, and if you like, you can block out the std def version and replace it with the HD version. 3.1, 5.1, 8.1, 19.1, 43.1 49.1, 55.1, and 74.1 are all Hi Def.

Hope this helps,
Ben Music

Some of the new channels were added.

458 NCKHD
471 MTVHD
472 CMTHD
473 VH1HD
474 BETHD

SPIKE and COMEDY are missing still. :( Channels 475 and 479 are not there.

Some of the new channels were added.

458 NCKHD
471 MTVHD
472 CMTHD
473 VH1HD
474 BETHD

SPIKE and COMEDY are missing still. :( Channels 475 and 479 are not there.

Just add Spike, that's all I ask.

TiVo people I'll check the line up and if we don't have these new channels in a day or so I'll phone it in.

I just picked up a new remote from TW. It's a new model for me - Synergy V RT-U64CP. It's nice, but I'm having trouble programming it to change the channels on my TV. The channel up-down and individual channel buttons only control the channels on the DVR. On my old remote you could easily change this. Has anyone figured out how to control the TV channels with this remote?

Some of the new channels were added.

458 NCKHD
471 MTVHD
472 CMTHD
473 VH1HD
474 BETHD

SPIKE and COMEDY are missing still. :( Channels 475 and 479 are not there.

x2 channels are there

Wow, the few Viacom channels they added suck balls. Makes me glad TWC waited until the end to add this crap. MTV "HD" has The Buried Life on in f-cking windowbox!! But commercials air in HD. WHY?? That makes no sense at all. NCKHD blows too, right now its Nick at Nite HD. I wonder if anything there(like Everybody Hates Chris and George Lopez) will be shown in HD?

I cant wait until SPIKE and COMEDY are added, wonder how much windowbox those channels will have? :rolleyes: :p

Just add Spike, that's all I ask.

TiVo people I'll check the line up and if we don't have these new channels in a day or so I'll phone it in.

Did Tito add any of the channel numbers? I'd be curious to know if anything is coming through on where the SPIKE and Comedy channel are supposed to be. Maybe TWC forgot to add them? Pressing 475 or 479 just takes me to the next channel above it.

Did Tito add any of the channel numbers? I'd be curious to know if anything is coming through on where the SPIKE and Comedy channel are supposed to be. Maybe TWC forgot to add them? Pressing 475 or 479 just takes me to the next channel above it.

Nope, I checked the other day to see if that happened. It did once before, we had the guide but no broadcast for the channels yet.

Speaking about TiVo, I just picked this up from the S3 thread. They now once again have a way to report lineup changes without calling them and being put on eternal hold and then being asked a bunch of dumb questions.

http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport/contactsupport/lineup_tool.html

I've just gone through the channel lineups on http://www.twcguide.com, and I have found the following communities in the TWC Northeast Ohio service area without digital cable (all in Ohio):

Carroll County:
Leesville
Harrison Township

Harrison County:
All communities (except Cadiz, which has digital cable, but no HD channels)

Ottawa County:
Put-in-Bay
Put-in-Bay Township

Wayne County:
Congress (which only has cable channels 2-14)

Some of the new channels were added.

458 NCKHD
471 MTVHD
472 CMTHD
473 VH1HD
474 BETHD

SPIKE and COMEDY are missing still. :( Channels 475 and 479 are not there.

Here in our area 479 and 544 are both HD Showcase on Demand "FREE" and 475 is empty.
I still can't figure why I can get WVIZ HD and not WNEO HD with the cable box, and with QAM Get WNEO HD and not WVIZ HD.
Maybe someday they will straighten all this out, instead of this hodgepodge.

Harrison County:
All communities (except Cadiz, which has digital cable, but no HD channels)


Hehe... We have an office in Cadiz. I had to go down there a few weeks ago, and was somewhat entertained when I passed the billboard on the side of the road for some car dealership - the big eye-grabbing line at the bottom was "Harrison County's ONLY New Car Dealership".

Figures that of the seven Viacom HD channels, they added all but the two I actually care about. :mad:

When this is complete, NEO looks to be in pretty good shape as far as HD is concerned. According to the list of known deals in the main thread, the only channels we are missing are:
Crime & Investigation-HD
Game-HD (MLB Extra Innings & NHL Center Ice in HD)
Gospel Music Channel-HD
Hallmark Channel-HD
History International-HD
HSN-HD
Investigation Discovery-HD
Jewlery TV-HD
Lifetime Television-HD
Oxygen-HD
Pentagon Channel-HD
QVC-HD
RFD-HD
Sundance-HD
truTV-HD
TV Land-HD
WGN America-HD

I'd love to see truTV-HD, TV Land-HD, and WGN America-HD added.

Here in our area 479 and 544 are both HD Showcase on Demand "FREE" and 475 is empty.
I still can't figure why I can get WVIZ HD and not WNEO HD with the cable box, and with QAM Get WNEO HD and not WVIZ HD.
Maybe someday they will straighten all this out, instead of this hodgepodge.

Golden WNEO-HD on the box is at 368-369 ( only 2) on QAM 49.1-49.4
WVIZ-HD on the box 363-365 QAM 74.1,74.2,74.4,74.5
at least that's what Ive got in Amherst

Golden WNEO-HD on the box is at 368-369 ( only 2) on QAM 49.1-49.4
WVIZ-HD on the box 363-365 QAM 74.1,74.2,74.4,74.5
at least that's what Ive got in Amherst

Thanks, I did find the QAM 74.1, 74.2 etc. I still wonder why WNEO HD is not on the cable box, while one can pick it up on QAM, 49.1.
My TV has TV Guide built in and it shows the QAM channels 74.1, 74.2 etc. should be 25.1, 25.2 etc just like one would receive OTA.
Maybe when they change channels numbers on March 4th they will get this straightened out.

One other oddity I found was ESPN2 HD is no longer 720p, it is 1080i now. All the rest of the ESPN channels are 720p. I can't believe that ESPN change it, it must have been Time Warner cable that did it.

One other oddity I found was ESPN2 HD is no longer 720p, it is 1080i now. All the rest of the ESPN channels are 720p. I can't believe that ESPN change it, it must have been Time Warner cable that did it.

Definitely an oddity, and I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it myself. But ESPN2 is now broadcasting in 1080i in North Canton too. So did TWC change it on purpose or accidentally?

Definitely an oddity, and I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it myself. But ESPN2 is now broadcasting in 1080i in North Canton too. So did TWC change it on purpose or accidentally?

How does a cable company accidentally change the type of broadcast feed? Why would they? Could it be possible that ESPN has changed from 720p to 1080i? Why would they?

Truly bazaar.

comedy hd and spike hd are now up for me in the sharon, PA area

comedy hd and spike hd are now up for me in the sharon, PA area

What channels are they on?

What channels are they on?

475- comedy
479- spike

475- comedy
479- spike

Same here in the Elyria area

comedy hd and spike hd are now up for me in the sharon, PA area
Can anyone confirm for the Akron area?

Can anyone confirm for the Akron area?

Yes, Comedy 475, Spike 479.

The Daily Show is on right now. :D

Yes, Comedy 475, Spike 479.

The Daily Show is on right now. :D

Geeze, I just sent in a list to TiVo day before yesterday. Hope they catch these two as well, they are usually good at catching all changes.

Now if they would only move TNA from 9:00 on Thursdays. I have two other recordings going on both TiVos at that time and still can catch wrestling.:D

Here in Columbus, Ohio we got the following additions to our lineup!

1103 Nickelodeon-HD
1206 Spike-HD
1207 Comedy Central-HD
1216 BET-HD
1250 MTV-HD
1252 VHI-HD
1254 CMT-HD
1623 MoreMax_HD
1624 ActionMax_HD
1644 Showtimes Showcase-HD

So I just have cable hooked into the back of my new Panasonic LCD and rescanned and it seems that there are a ton of channels added from 78 up to 130's (many are point something like 112.230 etc.) but of course there is no signal on any of them. Just wondering what they are doing there. Would these be active channels if I got a box and added the digital tier? Just curious and figured all you experts would know what's up. thanks.

first nickdawg might want update his signature

Spoiler HSN HD and QVC HD and Game 2 HD are our next batch of HD Channels



second
Coming soon in March for Digital Cable customers

Time Warner Cable wants to make your life simpler and easier through the services we deliver and how we deliver them. We're proud to announce finding what you want to watch will get easier in March! It's TV Made Easy!

Digital Cable Customers in greater Cleveland are getting Navigator. Click here to learn more about our innovative on-screen guide.

* All Digital set-tops in Greater Cleveland will convert to Navigator in March and you don't have to do a thing.
* Navigator will arrive on all set-top boxes at different times in March for different models. As a result, you may temporarily have Navigator on one set-top and the current guide on the others. All set-top boxes will eventually receive Navigator in March.
* Watch your mail in Late February for more information on Navigator.


and third
Paper: Cleveland Plain Dealer Legal Notices

Beginning March 8th, the location of the HD (High Definition) broadcast channels will move to the 1000’s in the greater Cleveland area as shown below:

WKYC/NBC HD will move to 1003; WOIO/CBS HD will move to 1004; WEWS/ABC HD will move to 1005; WUAB/MNTV HD will move to 1006; WBNX/CW HD will move to 1007; WJW/FOX HD will move to 1008; WVIZ/PBS HD will move to 1002.

Beginning March 8th, the location of the HD (High Definition) cable channels will also move to the 1000’s in the greater Cleveland area. The change will be to ‘add a 1’ to the current standard definition digital channel position currently located beginning in the 100’s:

For example: ESPN, currently on position 301 in Standard Definition will move to 1301. For example: USA Network currently on position 201 in Standard Definition will move to 1201.

Detailed channel line ups are printed in the local news section of this paper. These changes to the HD channel positions do not affect the channel positions for customers not subscribing to HD service from Time Warner Cable.

Other changes occurring beginning March 8th:

Style Network will move from Expanded Basic to the Digital Basic tier.
Ohio Channel will move to 990
WVIZ/World will move to 991
WVIZ/Create will move to 992
WNEO Fusion will move to 993
WNEO MHZ will move to 994
This TV will move to position 996.

For more information, or to view your channel line up, please visit www.twcguide.com

* Changes will vary by service area. Not all services available in all areas.

I guess they finally decided that running two systems at the same time wasn't such a good idea. So everybody will get Navigator. Bye Bye SARA. It wasn't nice knowing you.:p

Want to bet it doesn't happen in March? Any takers?

HSNHD and QVCHD. My wife will be thrilled.:rolleyes:

Does anyone know why Bones from last Thursday is not in HD?

Does anyone know why Bones from last Thursday is not in HD?
It was in HD on Brighthouse in central Florida!

It was in HD on Brighthouse in central Florida!

Well thank you so much for that helpful reply!:p

Apparently Fox had no HD last Thursday. Fringe is also on the mini screen.

Does anyone know why Bones from last Thursday is not in HD?

it's an evil plot to keep you on your toes :)

what I really want to know is when the heck are they going to put the color bars in HD:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Looks like the SARA areas are getting Navigator.

Signature updated. They can take QVC and HSN and shove 'em. I ran out of room or else I would've said the same thing about Navigator. They can shove that too.

SAVE SARA!! I'm starting a campaign. :D

TWC won't renew the SARA license and Cisco is no longer developing it. Itaas will be developing SARA from now on and they have been involved with the Navigator project in one form or another. They have provided dev tools and networks for ODN and MDN.

Woke up his morning to find 90% of my HD channels were off the air.
I can see why you guys criticized SDV.
Isn't Time Warner great.

TWC won't renew the SARA license and Cisco is no longer developing it. Itaas will be developing SARA from now on and they have been involved with the Navigator project in one form or another. They have provided dev tools and networks for ODN and MDN.

Well that sucks. :mad::( Every good software out there always has to change owners/developers then not be renewed by TWC. First it was Aptiv and Passport, now SARA.

Can't say I'm surprised, TWC loves to shove a piece of crap down our throats.

Signature updated. They can take QVC and HSN and shove 'em.
No kidding. We're getting HD shopping channels before they give us the other real HD channels? We're still missing truTV, History International, TV Land, and WGN-America!

I'm not going to complain though. Getting Viacom is a big deal.

Has anybody else in the Elyria area having trouble with the HD channels(SDV).

I got a message on my TiVo that channel 394 is now QVCHD. Went to check it out. My wife is thrilled. I don't know about HSN HD but I suppose it's there too.

unannounced but what ever more HD the better I guess

Game2HD was added also

pure speculation:History International HD, RFD-TV HD, WGN HD, Showtime 2 East HD, Showtime East HD, Showtime Extreme HD, Showtime Showcase HD, HBO 2 East HD, and Investigation Discover HD show up in the next 2 months

Has anybody else in the Elyria area having trouble with the HD channels(SDV).

Nothing that I've noticed, what channels in particular?

The new channel lineup is posted. :(:(:(

http://www.twclineup.com/lineups0210/SuburbanCleveland3.pdf

I don't like it. It looks really pathetic when you see it layed out like that compared to having it all grouped together.

First off if I was running things, I'd put the HD channels on their actual numbers. Like channel 19 would be 1019, PBS would be 1025 and associated multicast channels would directly follow the HD channel. I see TWC is determined to keep the effed up "analog" cable channel numbers alive(like CBS on 4, PBS on 2, etc).

Second, what I would REALLY do is bump all the VOD sh-t into the 4 digit channel numbers. That would clear out the 500s for more HD channels. That makes about 200 channel positions that would be open, no way in hell will TWC have 200 HD channels anytime soon. Plus it keeps most of the channels on familiar positions where we already know them to be. I know TNT is 441, USA is 443, etc. I have no fxxing clue about how their 2008 reorganization channel numbers because I kept watching the original analog channels. It's NOT 'as easy as adding a 1" because I still watch Cartoon Network on channel 66, not whatever the over 100 channel is. This gives me a headache. Screw it, I'll just go back to watching the analog channels. Whatever :rolleyes:

The new channel lineup is posted. :(:(:(

http://www.twclineup.com/lineups0210/SuburbanCleveland3.pdf

I don't like it. It looks really pathetic when you see it layed out like that compared to having it all grouped together.

First off if I was running things, I'd put the HD channels on their actual numbers. Like channel 19 would be 1019, PBS would be 1025 and associated multicast channels would directly follow the HD channel. I see TWC is determined to keep the effed up "analog" cable channel numbers alive(like CBS on 4, PBS on 2, etc).

Second, what I would REALLY do is bump all the VOD sh-t into the 4 digit channel numbers. That would clear out the 500s for more HD channels. That makes about 200 channel positions that would be open, no way in hell will TWC have 200 HD channels anytime soon. Plus it keeps most of the channels on familiar positions where we already know them to be. I know TNT is 441, USA is 443, etc. I have no fxxing clue about how their 2008 reorganization channel numbers because I kept watching the original analog channels. It's NOT 'as easy as adding a 1" because I still watch Cartoon Network on channel 66, not whatever the over 100 channel is. This gives me a headache. Screw it, I'll just go back to watching the analog channels. Whatever :rolleyes:

Meh, it's not big deal to me. Change is inevitable. I just hope it goes as smooth as when they moved it from the 700's to the 400's.

Nothing that I've noticed, what channels in particular?

Starting Wednesday morning going into Thursday night all the SDV channels were only working about 10% of the time.
I called Time Warner and they were going to send out a tech on Thursday afternoon. The tech call me early that afternoon and said they had a lot of complaints and the problem was occurring in half of Elyria and all of Amherst. About 9:20 yesterday evening they had the problem fixed.

I've been deconstructing this TWC broshure, wow is it vomit inducing. Get a load of this "load" that is a description of Navigator:

New Navigator, New Possibilities.

Get ready for Navigator, our leading edge on screen guide coming in March. This new guide features the most comprehensive redesign in digital cable history, bringing you the kind of ease and options you've always wanted. Best of all, Navigator is free. And there's much more to come.

Leading edge? Hate to break it to you TWC, but the guide you're replacing is fare more leading edge than this "navigator". Navigator is Mystro, which was supposed to be TWC's answer to Tivo in 2003. Totally leading edge!! :rolleyes:

I've been deconstructing this TWC broshure, wow is it vomit inducing. Get a load of this "load" that is a description of Navigator:

New Navigator, New Possibilities.

Get ready for Navigator, our leading edge on screen guide coming in March. This new guide features the most comprehensive redesign in digital cable history, bringing you the kind of ease and options you've always wanted. Best of all, Navigator is free. And there's much more to come.

Leading edge? Hate to break it to you TWC, but the guide you're replacing is fare more leading edge than this "navigator". Navigator is Mystro, which was supposed to be TWC's answer to Tivo in 2003. Totally leading edge!! :rolleyes:

Leading Edge!!! LOL!!!

Sure, if you like Windows 95 or DOS as an OS! LOL!

Hey Nick,

Did you get that same brochure where they make a big deal about:

"The New Navigator moves in four directions! No other program guide works like this!" I almost fell out of my chair when I read that!!! Oh yea, and when we got the brochure saying Navigator was "coming soon" it was already on our box for three days!!!"

But at least TWC is making progress. Three days late with a mailing. I don't recall them ever being that late this early before!!! hahahaha!!

You'll love the revolutionary "four directional feature!" LOL!

Jack

1 Week guide
Half-a$$ed show search feature
plus many more features

welcome to the past

I always monitor this thread; but there's normally little action for D* and OTA has stabilized for several years.

I've said before that I've been pleasantly surprised with D*'s aggressive software updates for their HD DVRs. For the first couple years, they had pretty much monthly updates. Now, they seem to have settled on quarterly updates. I was surprised when the latest provided a significant upgrade of the "search" and "program information" functions; and most importantly the capability to network the DVRs. Now I can watch a pre-recorded program while recording two in the family room and two in the den. The "playlists" have the option to integrate everything off both machines. So, if I want to watch something in the family room, off the den DVR, it's pretty much seamless. Everything runs off my wireless "N" network and even OTA HD (MPEG2) runs over the network with no problems (although D* will soon offer an option to run the network off the coaxial cables). Plus, I've got a 1T e-sata external drive on DVR in the family room. Hard to believe the difference between now and 5-6 years ago when I bought my HD Tivo 10-250.

Finally, D* has a new satellite in orbit and it's ready to come online in a couple months. It gives them the capability for another 50 national HD channels which brings the total to somewhere between 200 and 250. Their MPEG4 HD channels are almost impossible to distinguish from the MPEG2 OTA which I normally use for locals on the den DVR.

I use TWC for my high speed internet; but am very happy that I don't have to use them for the TV cable channels.

Anyone with a line of sight to the southwest should consider D*.

Another thought for anyone with the capability. I've been streaming Netflix HD movies across my wireless "N" network into my PS3 and then into the main display in the family room. They have several thousand movies (around a thousand in HD (720p)) and they are "free" with your Netflix membership. They are not the "just out" movies; but the video quality is great and I can be watching a movie within a minute after selection. Sound is limited to DD, like TV.

We have start over and On Demand.:rolleyes:

Well, I don't but I have a TiVo so I can get all that stuff you get.

No doubt D* blows the doors of TWC.

A DirecTV rep tried to sell me a package yesterday at Sam's Club where the equipment was basically free, and the regular programming was $35 a month for the first year, and $81 a month for the 2nd year. Plus they'd give me a couple of movie channels like Showtime for free for 3 months. I couldn't pull the trigger as much as I wanted to dump Time Warner.

I'm paying $96 a month now for Time Warner with the fastest internet connection and I get 3 premium movie channels. I would like the extra HD channels, but I really don't watch anything else that I don't get in HD now on Time Warner.

A DirecTV rep tried to sell me a package yesterday at Sam's Club where the equipment was basically free, and the regular programming was $35 a month for the first year, and $81 a month for the 2nd year. Plus they'd give me a couple of movie channels like Showtime for free for 3 months. I couldn't pull the trigger as much as I wanted to dump Time Warner.

I'm paying $96 a month now for Time Warner with the fastest Internet connection and I get 3 premium movie channels. I would like the extra HD channels, but I really don't watch anything else that I don't get in HD now on Time Warner.

That's an area where TWC is very good. Giving discounted deals and than throwing bones to customers to keep them happy where they can often pay the same, a little less, or only slightly more when the deal expires if you call and get a new price lock. That is where I give TWC kudos. I also love Digital Phone, Caller ID on TV and Road Runner.

From what I have heard, the competition such as Dish, Direct TV, and U-Verse are stubborn as mules if you try to negotiate a new deal when your discount contract ends. Plus after the warranty expires, you have to pay every time for service calls. TWC doesn't do that. Just say you want an In-House Technician when you set up a truck role, so that they don't send an independent contractor dolt.

Where TWC sucks is the lack of communication with their CSR's over basic cable terminology. The level one operators answering the phone, while in my division have usually been nice and helpful, they don't know basic cable skills. Each employee should have to take a required proficiency test every six months to a year that covers say 20 questions on the following:

1.) Cable TV General Info/Boxes/DVR's/Navigator (or whatever guide is used)

2.) Road Runner hookups and wireless networking.

3.) Digital Phone.

Far too many of these reps are giving unqualified advice and to quote a line from a writer, "Most cable CSR's wouldn't know how to spell the word "help" if you gave them the first three letters."

TWC has to establish a sense of competency and knowledge in the basic areas and allow customers EASY COMMUNICATIONS to higher ups in the company when problems arise. They have to work on improving this, "We are a monopoly, and don't give a **** attitude." Some divisions are better than others. But quality basic standards of communication are just not there.

And since it is obvious that they can't do it alone, get some quality outside help to enhance the Navigator Program Guide and get it up to an expected standard level. Things like Keyword Search, Manual Recording, and Remote DVR Management should be here and now, not future update things.

Make customers want to come to cable because of the quality of cable TV part of the service. You have great Digital Phone, you have great Road Runner Internet. TWC needs to get back to its roots. A foundation of quality for the cable TV part of the equation that has been weak for many years.

Jack

Satch Man, fortunately for me I have the lead tech in the area help me out with my issues. I cannot handle Time Warner phone support anymore. I've had over 35 truck rolls in the last two years and I got to know the lead tech in the area.

I recently found out why the Time Warner cable guys could never bring the right equipment that I needed. Apparently they can only see the first line or two of comments from the CSR's. I guess the third line is where the CSR's put that I specified that I needed a dual stream cable card and not a single stream card (this was a couple of years ago). Finally after about 3 truck rolls the guy brought the right cable card. The same thing happened recently when I needed a single stream cable card, and they brought me a dual stream card.

I don't understand why people pay all that money for VOIP service from Time Warner. I use magic jack at my house for $25 a year and it suits my needs. I even use it at work now for my main phone line.

I love how I recorded six episodes of "Arrested Development" on IFC HD today and the 12:30, 1:30 and 2:30 episodes did not record because of an unavailable channel but the 12, 1 and 2 episodes did. Thats's OK, I don't mind the plot chunks missing. :p

Bad enough when TWC took away HD Arrested Development on HD Net. They manage to f-ck it up again.

We have start over and On Demand.:rolleyes:

Well, I don't but I have a TiVo so I can get all that stuff you get.

No doubt D* blows the doors of TWC.

I love how you mock On Demand. Not too long ago I had a friend(who has D*) that was jealous of me because I have On Demand programming. :cool:

Of course I could be jealous that D* has HD Net(with Arrested Development) and a DVR that works!! :rolleyes:

I noticed during the Super Bowl trophy presentation when I was watching on my parents' HDTV that the screen went to 4:3 SD when a promo for the upcoming series "Undercover Boss" was posted, then it went back to 16:9 HD shortly thereafter. Is this a CBS issue?

I noticed during the Super Bowl trophy presentation when I was watching on my parents' HDTV that the screen went to 4:3 SD when a promo for the upcoming series "Undercover Boss" was posted, then it went back to 16:9 HD shortly thereafter. Is this a CBS issue?

Yes, it happened on OTA as well.

SDV strikes again, 3HD channels are out. Will it never end?

SDV strikes again, 3HD channels are out. Will it never end?

Goldenager62, when you post could you please post which channels are out? That way we can confirm if they are out in our area or just in your area.

Goldenager62, when you post could you please post which channels are out? That way we can confirm if they are out in our area or just in your area.


Sorry,
Spike HD, MTV HD, and CMT HD.

Sorry,
Spike HD, MTV HD, and CMT HD.

Spike HD?? Didn't know we Had Spike. I'll go look.

When I first tuned MTVHD it was out. I went to Spike next and I had an odd blue screen (on TiVo it's grey). Then Spike came on. I checked CMTV and it was on too.

When I first tuned MTVHD it was out. I went to Spike next and I had an odd blue screen (on TiVo it's grey). Then Spike came on. I checked CMTV and it was on too.

I got them all back now. First Spike HD came back, then CMT HD and finally MTV HD at 2 PM.

March 8th
Adult on Demand will move to 713
Erotic on Demand will move to 715
Spice on Demand will move to 716
Playboy Subscription will move to 719
Playboy on Demand will move to 720
Adult on Demand HD will appear on 714

March 8th
Adult on Demand will move to 713
Erotic on Demand will move to 715
Spice on Demand will move to 716
Playboy Subscription will move to 719
Playboy on Demand will move to 720
Adult on Demand HD will appear on 714
What is this, the sexy 700's? :p

Is there any reason why WEWS stopped squashing the picture when the school closing banner is on? This episode of Opra looks really stupid with the bottom of the screen covered. And the L3 cut off. :eek:

I always give credit where it is deserved. I <3 <3 <3 WEWS for not having that constant scrolling text garbage like WOIO and WKYC.

Haven't you figured it out nickdawg? If there is a way someone can aggravate you, they put it in motion. TWC, television stations, me.....:D;)

Anyone know if any TW in NEO have the newer Cisco or Samsung DVR boxes? I want to get rid of the crappy, slow, 4:3 interface 8300HDC. I'm in Warren, OH if that matters

Anyone know if any TW in NEO have the newer Cisco or Samsung DVR boxes? I want to get rid of the crappy, slow, 4:3 interface 8300HDC. I'm in Warren, OH if that matters

They (supposedly) have Samsung boxes, but you're not getting anything better. The Samsung boxes use the exact same Navigator software as the 8300HDC boxes. And instead of the normal 4:3 guide, you get all the UI screens in warped stretchovision.

There was a discussion in a HDTV Recorders subforum, the Samsung boxes have their own issues, as do the SA boxes. Personally I feel the SA boxes have evolved enough in recent times to not want to look at anything different.

There's topics about the new Navigator software and the Samsung box specifically in this forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=42

I don't care that the guide is "stretched". I saw the samsung box in Columbus at a family member's and it doesn't look too bad. I'd rather have it fill the screen. I can't stand 4:3 content now.

Plus the 8300 is ugly so the samsung automatically wins imo. And yes, I am well aware of how pathetic and crappy Navigator is. Stupid house doesn't have a good line of sight for DirecTV

I don't care that the guide is "stretched". I saw the samsung box in Columbus at a family member's and it doesn't look too bad. I'd rather have it fill the screen. I can't stand 4:3 content now.

Plus the 8300 is ugly so the samsung automatically wins imo. And yes, I am well aware of how pathetic and crappy Navigator is. Stupid house doesn't have a good line of sight for DirecTV

Welcome to my world.:(

I don't care that the guide is "stretched". I saw the samsung box in Columbus at a family member's and it doesn't look too bad. I'd rather have it fill the screen. I can't stand 4:3 content now.

Plus the 8300 is ugly so the samsung automatically wins imo. And yes, I am well aware of how pathetic and crappy Navigator is. Stupid house doesn't have a good line of sight for DirecTV

http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/picard-facepalm.jpg

Welcome to my world.:(

http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50351928/Gasoline_Chain_Saw.jpg

:D:D:D

nickdawg - I'm not talking about stretching 4:3 content, I merely state I don't like to watch it. Now, the guide, from what I saw is not extremely degraded so I am fine with stretching something static like that if it makes it fill the screen.

TWC was probably up to something today. Both of my tuner adapters were bricked and I had to make 2 calls as I didn't notice the 2nd one until the first one was fixed and I was off the phone.

I really think going to Navigator software is going to cause havoc with the tuner adaptors. I know they can work with them it's just switching over will probably brick them again. No big deal I guess since they have problems every two weeks anyway.

Am I the only TiVo owner in the area who has issues with the Tuner Adapter or does everybody else just take it in stride?

TWC was probably up to something today. Both of my tuner adapters were bricked and I had to make 2 calls as I didn't notice the 2nd one until the first one was fixed and I was off the phone.

I really think going to Navigator software is going to cause havoc with the tuner adaptors. I know they can work with them it's just switching over will probably brick them again. No big deal I guess since they have problems every two weeks anyway.

Am I the only TiVo owner in the area who has issues with the Tuner Adapter or does everybody else just take it in stride?

TiVo here. Every few weeks or so, my Tuning Adapter will do the 8 blinking light thing and I lose the SDV channels. Usually takes multiple powercycles (and plugging/unplugging USB) to get the TA to stop blinking and for the TiVo to recognize it. I use to call when it happened, but nobody at TW seems to know what to do when they hear Tuning Adapter.

Other than that, no real issues with my TA.

TiVo here. Every few weeks or so, my Tuning Adapter will do the 8 blinking light thing and I lose the SDV channels. Usually takes multiple powercycles (and plugging/unplugging USB) to get the TA to stop blinking and for the TiVo to recognize it. I use to call when it happened, but nobody at TW seems to know what to do when they hear Tuning Adapter.

Other than that, no real issues with my TA.

I have had 0 success with the 8 flashing lights reviving the TA. If you call TW and you don't get tossed to some foreign country you might get a helpful rep. I did on the first call. She got me going in under 5 minutes and she told me it was the first one she ever did. Second call I got a foreign Rep who put me on eternal hold for a real TW CSR. I hung up and called cable card support. They fixed my second TA.

The Tuning Adapter always goes out every few weeks or so on my TiVo as well. I either get lucky with a good rep or some idiot who tries to schedule a truck roll because they're sending a signal to a non-existant cable box instead of the tuner. They do this even when I specifically say I am using a TiVo with a tuning adapter. Morons.

Anyway, short of getting a "hit" from TW, the way I found to remedy it is to restart both the TiVo and the tuning adapter, but keep the tuning adapter disconnected from the TiVo until you get to the "Just a few more minutes" screen. Then, after powering on the tuning adapter (including the stupid power button on the front) plug in the USB back into the TiVo.

Hopefully that works for you. These boxes are such pieces of crap. For what it's worth, we've had navigator for a while and they work, but same issues you already deal with.

PS: wtf does TiVo take *so* freaking long to reboot? I hate that thing too.

I just got SDV channels in my area about 2 weeks ago and today I finally got a working tuning adapter for my TiVoHD. You guys are scaring me. I waited all this time for more headaches?

The TA hooked up to my TiVo Series 3 bricks every couple of weeks. Same thing with my parent's TiVo HD and my friend's TiVo HDXL. I call during normal business hours in order to get a CSR based in the US. Sometimes the rep knows what they are doing. Last time the rep had me experiment with different power cycles and his combination of hits to the box. We finally got it working and I was happy to oblige. I wish there was some terminology that I could tell them in order to trigger the correct command to make the phone call as short as possible. I would love to tell them for example, "run command 4 on the XYZ screen." Then the problem would be fixed and I could get back to a world where SDV doesn't infringe on my TV time.

I wish there was some terminology that I could tell them in order to trigger the correct command to make the phone call as short as possible. I would love to tell them for example, "run command 4 on the XYZ screen." Then the problem would be fixed and I could get back to a world where SDV doesn't infringe on my TV time.

Just tell them it lost signal and to send a "hit" to it. If you don't see it reboot, the moron sent the cable box hit not the one specifically for the tuning adapter.

I can't get to it right now but tomorrow I will post a direct toll free number to reach their cable card customer service. They know all about TiVo's and tuner adapters. Sometimes there is a hold because TWC staffs just 2 people for the entire nation, but at least they will have a clue as to what you're talking about.

My understanding is that the tuner adapter headache is a TWNEO exclusive. Other areas don't seem to have the issues we have.

i can't get to it right now but tomorrow i will post a direct toll free number to reach their cable card customer service. They know all about tivo's and tuner adapters. Sometimes there is a hold because twc staffs just 2 people for the entire nation, but at least they will have a clue as to what you're talking about.



866-532-2598

Just tell them it lost signal and to send a "hit" to it. If you don't see it reboot, the moron sent the cable box hit not the one specifically for the tuning adapter.

This will work. But to make it easy for them write the serial number of the tuner adapter down and tell them exactly what to hit. I keep my TA serial numbers inside my TiVo manuaal just for this purpose. Even the cable card people appreciate it.

This will work. But to make it easy for them write the serial number of the tuner adapter down and tell them exactly what to hit. I keep my TA serial numbers inside my TiVo manuaal just for this purpose. Even the cable card people appreciate it.

I got an online chat rep who actually knew about it and asked for the serial number so if you're tired of calling them that can work too.

BTW, The Nat CC people get kinda annoyed when you just call and arent actually referred. If you can, call someone normal first and if needed, have them do the transfer/forward to that number.

I got an online chat rep who actually knew about it and asked for the serial number so if you're tired of calling them that can work too.

BTW, The Nat CC people get kinda annoyed when you just call and arent actually referred. If you can, call someone normal first and if needed, have them do the transfer/forward to that number.
I planned on mentioning that. I just tell them I was transferred to them before they even ask. They've never questioned it. You're dumped in a que, they have no idea how you got there but they do ask.

BTW, The Nat CC people get kinda annoyed when you just call and arent actually referred. If you can, call someone normal first and if needed, have them do the transfer/forward to that number.

Finally this thread is going again.

My two cents, *beep* them. They're "annoyed". :rolleyes: For a service that costs over $100 a month, I'd call whoever it takes to make it work. And if they don't like it, why don't they FIX THEIR DAMN SERVICE!! :D

My TA seems to break every few weeks with the 8-flash bit. When I call TW and get a CSR on the line, I describe the problem - before they can fumble around for an answer, I say something like "when this happened three weeks ago, I had to talk to the CableCard group to get it fixed." If the CSR doesn't have a clue and just wants to move to the next call, they'll transfer you to the CC group. In the rare event that you get a CSR who actually knows what he's doing (like the last guy I talked to), he may take on the challenge of getting your TA working again.

Last time I called, the CSR seemed to know a thing or two and was able to get the TA working within a few minutes. He seemed a little surprised when I told him it sometimes went out within a week or two of being reset, but did say something along the lines of "monthly resets when we send out software updates to set-top boxes aren't uncommon - turning off your TA when you're not watching TV should avoid this problem." (Not really an option, but it provides some insight...)

He was going to look into why my box blows up so often - called me back a few hours later asking for some additional info, and I never heard anything after that. Funny thing is that my TA has been solid ever since - that was probably 4-5 weeks ago.

My TA seems to break every few weeks with the 8-flash bit. When I call TW and get a CSR on the line, I describe the problem - before they can fumble around for an answer, I say something like "when this happened three weeks ago, I had to talk to the CableCard group to get it fixed." If the CSR doesn't have a clue and just wants to move to the next call, they'll transfer you to the CC group. In the rare event that you get a CSR who actually knows what he's doing (like the last guy I talked to), he may take on the challenge of getting your TA working again.

Last time I called, the CSR seemed to know a thing or two and was able to get the TA working within a few minutes. He seemed a little surprised when I told him it sometimes went out within a week or two of being reset, but did say something along the lines of "monthly resets when we send out software updates to set-top boxes aren't uncommon - turning off your TA when you're not watching TV should avoid this problem." (Not really an option, but it provides some insight...)

He was going to look into why my box blows up so often - called me back a few hours later asking for some additional info, and I never heard anything after that. Funny thing is that my TA has been solid ever since - that was probably 4-5 weeks ago.


Monthly resets don't make sense. It happens every 2 weeks. And turning off your TA is just a bad idea. Well, at least he tried to be helpful even though he didn't know what he was talking about. And of course you can expect you Tuner Adapter to go out any day now.:D

Here is the number for Cable Card Support: 866.532.2598. As mentioned in previous post advise to them that you have been transferred from customer service. Sometimes they are a little sneaky asking, saying something like "did this just happen?" That's when you want to say yes, and customer support transferred me to you. Then can get a little hot under the collar if you tell them the truth.

I don't know what the big deal is. This number is all over the internet but they want protocol and we need them so let's keep them happy.:)

Thanks for the feedback guys. I know others have TiVo and I didn't see responses from them and some of you I was not aware had a TiVo. That means TiVo is still going strong despite this tuner adapter debacle.

I don't want to get into anything else on TiVo because it's off topic but there is some news about new stuff on the horizon from mod Ken H over on the either the S3 thread or the TiVo HD thread. You may want to check it out.

anyone know when mentor (old comcast) will be getting these hd channels:

NCKHD, MTVHD, CMTHD, VH1HD, BETHD, CMDYHD and SPKHD

My friend in mentor on the lake (old adelphia) keeps calling me and telling me hes getting all of these channels. I know they are requiring us to swtch out our old motorola boxes to SA boxes, but ive had SA boxes in my house for over a year now and do get some sdv channels.

anyone know when mentor (old comcast) will be getting these hd channels:

NCKHD, MTVHD, CMTHD, VH1HD, BETHD, CMDYHD and SPKHD

My friend in mentor on the lake (old adelphia) keeps calling me and telling me hes getting all of these channels. I know they are requiring us to swtch out our old motorola boxes to SA boxes, but ive had SA boxes in my house for over a year now and do get some sdv channels.


Good question. I'm waiting too.

Ray

I wish there was some terminology that I could tell them in order to trigger the correct command to make the phone call as short as possible. I would love to tell them for example, "run command 4 on the XYZ screen." Then the problem would be fixed and I could get back to a world where SDV doesn't infringe on my TV time.

PM sent. ;)

PM sent. ;)

So in order to get good customer service for our TiVos there is something we can instruct them to do but you'll only share that information with one person. Thanks, CK. Made the rest of us feel really good.:rolleyes:

So in order to get good customer service for our TiVos there is something we can instruct them to do but you'll only share that information with one person. Thanks, CK. Made the rest of us feel really good.:rolleyes:

BM sent. ;)

To TWC. :D:rolleyes:

So in order to get good customer service for our TiVos there is something we can instruct them to do but you'll only share that information with one person. Thanks, CK. Made the rest of us feel really good.:rolleyes:

There are some things that I prefer not to broadcast. That's not intended to slight anyone.

Slightly off topic, but it does have to deal with Time Warner in NEO. Please delete if necessary.

For the past month or so, I have been unable to access indians.com or mlb.com through my Road Runner.. Firefox/IE will think for awhile before failing to "The connection has timed out".

Strangely, I can access indians.com using http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=cle

I don't think it is my computer as my backup computer has the same issue

Anyone else in the area having this issue? Thanks.