So does KUSA still need to manually switch between SD commercials and HD shows, or is there another reason the Today show is not on in HD this morning?

So I recorded Studio 60 on my Sony HD DVR --- and when I watched it, it was not in Dolby 5.1. Does KUSA still not have the ability to send 5.1 on Comcast??

They do 5.1 for the Sunday night football. I can’t believe nobody has mentioned about the outage last night! I’m a big ER fan, and sure enough Comcast went out metro-area wide according to a CSR right a 9. So that sucked, missed the premier of one of my favorite shows. But I got free coupon for paperview!@ Did anyone else have that issue? I guess it was down in the Thorton area earlier in the night and then I noticed around 6 while watching the espn game I was getting audio drops and pic freeze. I called and they zapped my box and said it was just me. Then when it went out they said they we’re noticing some problems earlier in the metro area and didn’t get anyone out to fix it in time. So freaking bummed.

It wasn't just you. Mine went out at 9:00 as well (Internet access too), and I'm in southwest Denver. I called at about 10:30 and spent about 10 minutes on hold before hanging up. There was a message on the line that said there was an outage in the metro area. This must have been huge if it encompassed the area from Thornton to southwest Denver.

Has anybody heard what happened? Fortunately, my recording of The Office and a few other comedies were fine.

Thought I would bump this and see if there was any new info on new HD DVR boxes or HD programming. I called CS and got no new info.

It wasn't just you. Mine went out at 9:00 as well (Internet access too), and I'm in southwest Denver. I called at about 10:30 and spent about 10 minutes on hold before hanging up. There was a message on the line that said there was an outage in the metro area. This must have been huge if it encompassed the area from Thornton to southwest Denver.

Has anybody heard what happened? Fortunately, my recording of The Office and a few other comedies were fine.
we didn't get the outage in lafayette. i was able to watch ER.

I'm new to HDTV (series 3 Tivo, comcast), and was anyone else seriously not impressed with the CW's Veronica Mars on Tuesday? It wasn't wide screen. It claimed to be 1080i, but it looked like crap. And I got lots of hiccups in the recording. I'm tempted to revert to the SD signal.

Ummm? You were watching the SD version. Scroll dow a couple of posts.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=28456&page=554&pp=30

Thanks for the link. I'm glad I'm not alone!

I'm new to HDTV (series 3 Tivo, comcast), and was anyone else seriously not impressed with the CW's Veronica Mars on Tuesday? It wasn't wide screen. It claimed to be 1080i, but it looked like crap. And I got lots of hiccups in the recording. I'm tempted to revert to the SD signal.
How do you like the new TiVo? Did you have any trouble getting two CableCards from Comcast?

I thought about getting one, but decided that the cost was too high. As a lifetime member, I was offered the $200 lifetime subscription. For a total of $1,000 I just couldn't see the value compared with renting a 6412.

MHD finally showed up at channel 671 tonight. I first noticed it tonight, anyway, while looking during a commercial break in the baseball game. No information was on the guide, however.

Good catch. Unfortunately, when I just checked the first thing I saw was a close-up of Neil Young's face. Not a good sign for this channel. :)

Good catch. Unfortunately, when I just checked the first thing I saw was a close-up of Neil Young's face. Not a good sign for this channel. :)

was there a giant coke booger hanging from his nose ala The Last Waltz lol. werent we lined up to possibly get another channel besides MHD? dont see myself watching much of that channel

was there a giant coke booger hanging from his nose ala The Last Waltz lol. werent we lined up to possibly get another channel besides MHD? dont see myself watching much of that channel

Same here... New HD channels are like nuggets of gold for Colorado Comcast customers... I hate to see the bandwidth used for a channel I'll never watch, though obviously I don't expect these things decided based on my tastes. I'd have prefered UHD. Or of course, the HDNets. But for a Comcast customer, that's like wanting a date with Salma Hayek.

MHD does appear to have different content than MTV... all HD from the looks of it. I might watch it for a bit out of curiosity but it's still MTV, and there's not much appeal to me. Still, it would appear Comcast has pulled out enough bandwidth to add two slots for HD channels in the past few months. They added UPN, now CW, which at first was just digital, not HD, but now it does have HD content. They dumped INHD2 in favor of TNT-HD, so we'll call that a wash. And now they've added MHD. I can't say I'm thrilled about any of these additions, and I hope they're not done there. For all the talk that they didn't have the bandwidth for more HD, it appears that they do. It's too bad we can't get any real answers from them.

MHD does appear to have different content than MTV... all HD from the looks of it. I might watch it for a bit out of curiosity but it's still MTV, and there's not much appeal to me. Still, it would appear Comcast has pulled out enough bandwidth to add two slots for HD channels in the past few months. They added UPN, now CW, which at first was just digital, not HD, but now it does have HD content. They dumped INHD2 in favor of TNT-HD, so we'll call that a wash. And now they've added MHD. I can't say I'm thrilled about any of these additions, and I hope they're not done there. For all the talk that they didn't have the bandwidth for more HD, it appears that they do. It's too bad we can't get any real answers from them.

Ahh, but take a look at the program guide. We don't have INHD any longer. We now have INHD2, probably because that's the channel they use to run the Altitude Nuggets and Avalanche games.

INHD still shows the lamest movies imaginable. If they're going to show near public-domain movies, they should remaster some of the classics for HD and show them. I'd watch that.

Ahh, but take a look at the program guide. We don't have INHD any longer. We now have INHD2, probably because that's the channel they use to run the Altitude Nuggets and Avalanche games.

INHD still shows the lamest movies imaginable. If they're going to show near public-domain movies, they should remaster some of the classics for HD and show them. I'd watch that.

I believe it's still INHD, it just says INHD2 on the guide for some reason. But the content is still the INHD content (like the NHL on Versus HD feeds, for example). They're showing the Altitude HD feeds on that channel now.

I believe it's still INHD, it just says INHD2 on the guide for some reason. But the content is still the INHD content (like the NHL on Versus HD feeds, for example). They're showing the Altitude HD feeds on that channel now.

Well, both channels show the same programming with the exception of INHD2 which, in the past, also carried Nuggets and Avalanche games. INHD carried baseball. I'm thinking that because the baseball season is over for INHD, they switched the channel to INHD2.

Either way, it's a lame channel except for the sports.

Well, both channels show the same programming with the exception of INHD2 which, in the past, also carried Nuggets and Avalanche games. INHD carried baseball. I'm thinking that because the baseball season is over for INHD, they switched the channel to INHD2.

Either way, it's a lame channel except for the sports.

I agree the sports is the main thing worth watching on INHD, and that's the only reason why whether or not we have INHD or INHD2 is signficant... INHD also carries NHL and NBA games, and INHD2 doesn't as far as I could tell. INHD2 didn't actually broadcast the Altitude HD games, it was just that Denver Comcast preempted the INHD2 programming to carry the games, so they wouldn't need to switch to INHD2 just to keep carrying the Altitude HD games, they just need to preempt the INHD programming instead of the INHD2 programming. I looked last night at what was supposed to be on INHD, and it was some '68 Olympics documentary, and that was what was on Channel 664. So even though the program guide says INHD2, it's still INHD.

making sure I have this right.
Running QAM decoding on basic cable I'm getting:

NBC on 91.1
ABC 89.1

but I can't get CBS, which I've read is on 18-1? :confused:

making sure I have this right.
Running QAM decoding on basic cable I'm getting:

NBC on 91.1
ABC 89.1

but I can't get CBS, which I've read is on 18-1? :confused:

There are more HD chans on:
18.1 (local HD)
18.2 (encrypted, I don't know what this is)
16.1 (local HD)
16.2 (encrypted, no clue)
117.1 (should be UPNHD or whatever that is now, but I don't remember if this is the right chan)
91.2 (this is PBSHD...I think)

Non HD, but cool:
The TUBE is on 100.13.
On/InDemand is on 101.2-101.13,102.2-102.13, and 113.2-113.13.

If anyone has found any other HD chans even if they are encrypted, I would be interested in finding out what they are. Also...what happened MTN? Did they move it?

There are more HD chans on:
18.1 (local HD)
18.2 (encrypted, I don't know what this is)
16.1 (local HD)
16.2 (encrypted, no clue)
117.1 (should be UPNHD or whatever that is now, but I don't remember if this is the right chan)
91.2 (this is PBSHD...I think)

Non HD, but cool:
The TUBE is on 100.13.
On/InDemand is on 101.2-101.13,102.2-102.13, and 113.2-113.13.

If anyone has found any other HD chans even if they are encrypted, I would be interested in finding out what they are. Also...what happened MTN? Did they move it?
I'm getting those, 117.1 is the new "my20" I belive. Lots of HD content it seemed like. I am only interested in NBC, ABC, and CBS though. Very irritated that I don't get CBS. Seems odd doesn't it?
I could understand if it was OTA but via cable it should be there.

I seem to remember 91.2 being the lone tree city channel though, I'd have to look again. I've set all but a couple to skip so they don't bother me :)

Since it's an integrated tuner maybe I should buy a set top to test and return it, or borrow one somewhere to see if it's the tuner flaking out?

I forgot 89.2 which is CW-HD
CBS-HD should be 18.1

not there, even rescanned. Very weird.

Has anyone else had trouble with 18-1 lately?

not there, even rescanned. Very weird.

Has anyone else had trouble with 18-1 lately?
Your line might have an analog trap on that frequency. There was a time when 18 was a premium channel. I would think you would have had to live there a long time without a service call for there to still be one. You could always find out when Comcast has a special (Digital Silver package 3 mo. for $49.99 a month, and pay the extra $5 for HD), have a service call for them fix it, give it up at the end of the promotion, and it should continue to work. The risk is you might like having ESPN-HD and other scrambled stations.

Your line might have an analog trap on that frequency. There was a time when 18 was a premium channel. I would think you would have had to live there a long time without a service call for there to still be one. You could always find out when Comcast has a special (Digital Silver package 3 mo. for $49.99 a month, and pay the extra $5 for HD), have a service call for them fix it, give it up at the end of the promotion, and it should continue to work. The risk is you might like having ESPN-HD and other scrambled stations.

if there is it would have to be in the box, not on the house.
This house has never had cable TV and is only a year old, I have a cable modem and basic cable because of that. I've checked and the cable in is just connected directly to the line running to my cable modem, no trap.

It's not really a huge deal, whenever DTV can sell me a HDTV DVR at a reasonable price I'll get their HD package, right now I have 2 tivos and don't care to give them up in exchange for their HD package. Just find it strange is all. Just experimenting since it's free.

The new fully digital Moto 3412 is available locally now. It resolves the bad reception problems from channels 2 - 99. However, as with all of Motorola's garbage, it has its own problems. This one involves stacatto, jittery movement sometimes when people are moving laterally on the screen. Packets are likely not deliverying properly. I checked the diagnostics screen and, as I thought, there are a lot of "correctable" errors in the stream.

I also have some analog TVs connected straight to the cable. Has anybody else noticed some "bleed" problems on channesl 30 - 65? The image will play fine and then, all of a sudden, there is a dissolve to something else with all the data in between gone. The sound is fine, but the image melts and pixels from one thing to another. On analog!

What the #@&* is wrong with Comcrash Denver!!!

I can't say I've seen anything like that here. I watch alot of & record 36,44,48 & 52 with my HTPC. I've never had any reception problems with 2 thru 99 either with my 6412.

The new fully digital Moto 3412 is available locally now. It resolves the bad reception problems from channels 2 - 99. However, as with all of Motorola's garbage, it has its own problems. This one involves stacatto, jittery movement sometimes when people are moving laterally on the screen. Packets are likely not deliverying properly. I checked the diagnostics screen and, as I thought, there are a lot of "correctable" errors in the stream.

I also have some analog TVs connected straight to the cable. Has anybody else noticed some "bleed" problems on channesl 30 - 65? The image will play fine and then, all of a sudden, there is a dissolve to something else with all the data in between gone. The sound is fine, but the image melts and pixels from one thing to another. On analog!

What the #@&* is wrong with Comcrash Denver!!!
Maybe you need an in-line amplifier before the splitter. Some of the digital issues could explained by a reduced signal strength due to splitters. I had to get one in my apartment because the internal building wiring between the comcast box and my unit was a long run of RG59. It helped tremendously. Admittedly I mostly watch 652-670. My son watches 28 quite a bit.

About 8:40 am this morning I lost 652 KMGHDT and 658 KRMADT and can't tune them in on the QAM frequencies either (89.1 and 91.2) on another box.

Is anyone else in the Thornton/Erie area having this problem?

Update:

For anyone interested, Comcast fixed the problem after about 4 hours.

Yes, I'm not able to get 18-1 and since they moved Fox down to 11-1 (I think) I can't get Fox HD either. That pretty much kills 99% of NFL games in HD for me.

Yes, I'm not able to get 18-1 and since they moved Fox down to 11-1 (I think) I can't get Fox HD either. That pretty much kills 99% of NFL games in HD for me.

My friend, I suspect you have an HD tuner built into the TV? You must if you can descramble straight from the coax to the TV. If you have a pair of rabbit ears around the house or can get some, try an experiment. Connect them to the TV and let it search for the local stations. 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, and 31 broadcast in HD over-the-air. (People forget that local TV is FREE OTA.)

If you can "see" the Republic Plaza tower and the antenna array in Golden from your home, you should be able to receive the channels. Play around with the settings and position of the antenna to see if you can get a better lock on the channels. If you want to spend a few dollars ($20+ shipping at Amazon-- I got mine in less than a week after ordering it), I bought the Zenith Silver Sensor set-top antenna. I live by the foothills near Ken Caryl, in a bit of a valley, and yet this set-up works fine. The Silver Sensor is very directional, which helps a great deal in isolating specific channels.

If there is a way to record the HD programming to the Comcast box when it comes OTA, I haven't figured it out yet.

If you choose to go all out with OTA and antennas, a good place for selecting the proper rooftop antenna is: www.antennaweb.org .

Also, there is an over-the-air forum here on AVS. You can subscribe here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=28456&page=558&pp=30

The local digital/HD channel numbers are:

KWGN (2) - It is really on channel 30, and your TV will rechannel to 2.1.

KCNC (4) - Is at channel 35, rechanneling to 4.1.

KRMA (6) - Is at 18.

KMGH (7) - Is at 17.

KUSA (9) - Is at 16.

KTVD (20) - Is at 19.

KDVR (31) - Is at 32.

Enjoy!

The new fully digital Moto 3412 is available locally now. It resolves the bad reception problems from channels 2 - 99. However, as with all of Motorola's garbage, it has its own problems. This one involves stacatto, jittery movement sometimes when people are moving laterally on the screen. Packets are likely not deliverying properly. I checked the diagnostics screen and, as I thought, there are a lot of "correctable" errors in the stream.

I also have some analog TVs connected straight to the cable. Has anybody else noticed some "bleed" problems on channesl 30 - 65? The image will play fine and then, all of a sudden, there is a dissolve to something else with all the data in between gone. The sound is fine, but the image melts and pixels from one thing to another. On analog!

What the #@&* is wrong with Comcrash Denver!!!

Curious....with the new 3412 are SD football games any clearer? I find it hard to watch these games sometimes.

-Bill

Searched this thread, but couldn't find anything related to my problem. I recently moved from Littleton to Golden and had my Comcast service transferred with us. No problems at the previous house, but in the new house, I'm getting stuttering/freezing on some SD stations. The audio is fluid, just the picture freezes every few seconds. It doesn't happen all the time, mostly during prime time viewing. I switched boxes at comcast (latest Moto w/HDMI) but no luck. Strange thing is that I recorded a program as it stuttered for proof, yet when I replayed the recording, the video came out fine with no stuttering. HD channels do not suffer at all from this symptom. Also, the tv upstairs that is running straight cable (no box) does not stutter at all. Anyone ever experience anything like this?
Did you ever get a fix for this? And what is the "skip back" button someone suggested using?

We just acquired our first HDTV but we've been getting this stuttering/freezing on the lower SD channels even on several previous TVs. We've been running thru a Comcast DVR box since last January 2006 and the other straight-thru TVs in the house work fine. It's most recently hooked up to a Sony KDL40V2500. And I'm a NOOOOOB to all of this! Thx in advance.

Curious....with the new 3412 are SD football games any clearer? I find it hard to watch these games sometimes.

-Bill

No. All it did for us was eliminate static and ghosting from 2 - 99.

Did you ever get a fix for this? And what is the "skip back" button someone suggested using?

We just acquired our first HDTV but we've been getting this stuttering/freezing on the lower SD channels even on several previous TVs. We've been running thru a Comcast DVR box since last January 2006 and the other straight-thru TVs in the house work fine. It's most recently hooked up to a Sony KDL40V2500. And I'm a NOOOOOB to all of this! Thx in advance.

I had a Comcast tech come out and we tried another box. It was worse, so I just kept my current one. The tech was aware of this issue and said that it was a fairly common problem with the 3412's. The skip back method does cure it,,,,albeit temporarily. Just rewind the live feed a couple of seconds and then hit play again. No more stutters.

Regards,
Phil

I had a Comcast tech come out and we tried another box. It was worse, so I just kept my current one. The tech was aware of this issue and said that it was a fairly common problem with the 3412's. The skip back method does cure it,,,,albeit temporarily. Just rewind the live feed a couple of seconds and then hit play again. No more stutters.

Regards,
Phil
Thx much. I'll try it.

FOX HD KDVR channel is now on 16-1, I just tried it over the weekend.
Channel 4 should still be on 18-1, unless they moved again...

With Comcast basic cable in Fort Collins, CO I can get the following channels using the built-in QAM tuner on my HDTV:

- CBS: 87.2
- NBC: 85.3
- ABC: 87.1
- FOX: 85.1
- PBS: 86.2
- CW2: 86.1
- MyNetworkTV: 94.3

The quality looks great on all of these. There is a problem with the audio on the ABC channel. It breaks up and cuts out every few seconds. I'm not sure if this is a problem with my tuner, if the audio being broadcast is messed up, or if there is an alternative channel that has a different audio encoding. Has anyone else experienced audio problems like this?

I'm going to be ordering Comcast HD/DVR in a week or so. What model STB is being used in Fort Collins (or northern Colorado) - or do we get a choice. The basic reason for asking is that phase II has DVI and phase III has HDMI, assuming it's the Motorola 641x box. Though, I've seen 3412 references here also...

I already have DMI-HDMI and component, but am unsure if I need an HDMI-HDMI cable to judge between that and component. Or does the installer have cables, at least for trying?

Thanks in advance...

Doug

I've used both DVI and component cables from my 6412 (DVI and HDMI would provide similar, if not identical benefits). IMO, the difference between these two is not significant, at least as far as PQ. You may have a more critical eye. I only have one DVI input on my TV, so I use that for my DVD player, where the upconversion available via DVI provides a much better picture than the component connection. If you've got multiple HDMI inputs on your TV, then this shouldn't be an issue, and you should use that connection. Even if it's a phase II box, you can get DVI to HDMI adapters.

I agree with gakon. When I had the Phase II I tried the DVI. I couldn't tell much, if any, difference compared to component. When I got the Phase III, I didn't even bother getting a HDMI to DVI adapter. It just isn't worth the money for me.

BTW, I don't think Comcast provides any HDMI or DVI cables. Only component.

Someone posted on the OTA thread that they saw Veronica Mars in HD this week (on KWGN). My DVR recording was SD. Did anyone catch it in HD on Comcast? Last week I talked to one of KWGN's engineers who described a couple of issues that had affected the last couple of weeks, but this is the second time I've seen someone say that saw in on HD OTA, but it was in SD via Comcast.

Thanks for the responses. Obviously some have more discerning eyes, different equipment, more/less interference, cable quality/cost, etc. MOST seem to see little difference between component and DVI/HDMI for these cable boxes, and I think Comcast seems to recommend component, but I've seen a FEW posts claiming night-and-day differences, so I thought I'd ask. I have component, and DVI-HDMI, and I just ordered an HDMI-HDMI (I'll use it eventually, if not for this), so I'm all set cable-wise.

Doug

PS: Since I'm upgrading from a 30+ year old Sony CRT (not even stereo, only 75 ohm and 300 ohm inputs), I suspect that either will look good on my new HDTV plasma!

The only thing I saw between the two is color saturation.

The only thing I saw between the two is color saturation.

Which did you think was "better"?

Doug

One was just richer in color. I can't remember which though. I chose the less saturated one because my OTA rec. was closest to it.

I didn't like having to turn down the color when I swiched inputs. I suppose I could have changed that one input to match the other in the service menu but I didn't.

the avs game tonight is supposed to be on inhd and it's not on! just regular inhd content. someone screwed up. it is on altitude (in SD) as planned.

edit: someone woke up and flipped the switch about 5 minutes in.

hockey is just one of those things where HD really make a huge difference. dramas and sitcoms i could take either way, soccer, i sorta have to take in SD because there is very little HD soccer out there, but hockey, while awesome in SD, is 1000 times better in HD

the avs game tonight is supposed to be on inhd and it's not on! just regular inhd content. someone screwed up. it is on altitude (in SD) as planned.

edit: someone woke up and flipped the switch about 5 minutes in.

hockey is just one of those things where HD really make a huge difference. dramas and sitcoms i could take either way, soccer, i sorta have to take in SD because there is very little HD soccer out there, but hockey, while awesome in SD, is 1000 times better in HD
The Bronco's game today was beautiful. Well, uh, the HD broadcast was beautiful. Their miserable loss was ... ... miserable. :rolleyes:

I had a 6412 Phase 1, then 2, and then 3. I then tried the 3412. I immediately noticed "interlacing lines" on a number of channels, memorably TNT-HD. That is, when people move, I can see horizontal lines over the image, as if the vertical resolution was cut in half. It's hard to explain but there was no way I was going to deal with that. I made a bit of a stink and finally got a used 6412 Phase III box back after several techs (none of whom were actually aware a separate Phease III variant of the 6412 existed - I had to have them go to the local office here in Boulder and have them physically acquire a Phase III box).

All these motorola boxes are garbage. I can barely tolerate the Phase III. I put up with audio dropouts, occasional glitches, and occasional non-responsiveness. (Yes, I have had 5 techs come out and check the line--INCLUDING two senior LINE TECHS ["The Calvary"]).

My recommendation is to stay with 6412 Phase III if you have one. It's the only tolerable one of the four variants I've had.

maybe you just had a bad 3412. i get no lines, and the remote responsiveness problem, while still present, isn't nearly as bad as it was with the 6412. oh, and it takes up less space on top of my tv.

Was the 6412 you had a Phase III?

yeah i had a phase III and got rid of it because of extreme remote lag

I'm convinced that these boxes degrade over time. My 6412 Phase II lasted a couple of years before it finally became unbearable and then died. Then my Phase III was great for several months, but it is now developing the remote commands lag. Then, tonight, it didn't record The Office for some reason. I'm not 100% sure that I had it scheduled, but it should have been. I have a "season pass" (whatever it's called). They are frustrating boxes for sure.

And my new (to me) box already has the lag. I called Support and they professed to not know about it. I'll try a few things - new batteries, etc. - but doubt that they'll help. On the other hand, he WAS helpful in resolving a problem caused by the STB outputting 480i instead of 720p or 1080i.

I seem to have very old firmware, 10.xx, but that's probably not "it" either.

Doug

I need some help from those of you who are on basic analog cable and using a QAM tuner. I work at ListenUp in Denver and need some feedback for my customers.

As many of you know, FOX disappeared from their spot a few months ago. For me it was no problem as I have OTA available from my home. I checked with our liason at Comcast and he had no clue that HD was available with a QAM tuner. When I had my question (what happened to the FOX QAM signal at 90.1) passed on to someone in the tech department the response I got was that Comcast didn't broadcast on FM bands!! :mad: Who at Comcast knows what the hell is going on??

Anyway, I have a customer in Evergreen who emailed me last night that she had lost all of her Network HD feeds and was getting "not authorized" on a black screen on some of them.

CBS - no signal
12 Digital - signal can't be decoded
ABC - comes up analog
NBC - not authorized
PBS - not authorized
WB2 - comes up analog

I went home last night and found that I had lost my CBS and NBC feeds, but that FOX was back at 90.1. Who else has lost some of their HD QAM feeds?

Thanks for any help. Lew Black

Some of the DVRs claim to be able to work with cable. Has anyone tried replacing their Motorola STB with one of these? I'm not sure if non-DVR STBs are available from third parties, but if they are same question.

Doug

maybe you just had a bad 3412. i get no lines, and the remote responsiveness problem, while still present, isn't nearly as bad as it was with the 6412. oh, and it takes up less space on top of my tv.

GB, you are the luckiest person I know of with Comcast equipment, I swear to goodness.

It was funny to read Joanne Ostrow's praises of the Comcast box two weeks ago in the Post and then her follow-up article with comments from those all-but defeated by their Motorola boxes.

For those of us mortals experiencing a whole new set of Motorola deficiencies with the 3412, from the firmware to the boxes themselves, read the AVS 3412/34316 forum and understand you are not alone.

I'm ready to begin a new 12-step group... Motorola Anonymous. Who's with me? :p

Here's a link to the forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=604142

Some of the DVRs claim to be able to work with cable. Has anyone tried replacing their Motorola STB with one of these? I'm not sure if non-DVR STBs are available from third parties, but if they are same question.

Doug

Doug, I haven't been following this thread, but if you didn't know, Sony briefly made a cable card compatable DVR: the DHG-HDD250 and 500. I own the HDD250 and use it combining my analog cable and an antenna. It will combine the stations from the 2 sources. (It has both ATSC and QAM tuners). The downside is that you have to use the frustrating Gemstar TV guide for finding programming. As I don't watch much TV (more DVD's) it does all I need it to do even if the operation is clumsy. The upside is I have no monthly fees and only pay $15 per month for basic cable. It has paid for itself in less than a year. Some units are still available on Ebay. Picture quality is excellent. Lew Black

Comcast is at it again-- the local HD QAM channels have moved.

As of 2pm today I am getting the following:

89-1 ABC KMGH
89-2 CBS KCNC
90-1 FOX KDVR
90-2 NBC KUSA
117-1 My20 KTVD

I can't seem to find the CW KWGN or PBS yet.

Anyone else??

Comcast is at it again-- the local HD QAM channels have moved.

As of 2pm today I am getting the following:

89-1 ABC KMGH
89-2 CBS KCNC
90-1 FOX KDVR
90-2 NBC KUSA
117-1 My20 KTVD

I can't seem to find the CW KWGN or PBS yet.

Anyone else??

Mu customers and I thank you!! Lew

Comcast is at it again-- the local HD QAM channels have moved.

As of 2pm today I am getting the following:

89-1 ABC KMGH
89-2 CBS KCNC
90-1 FOX KDVR
90-2 NBC KUSA
117-1 My20 KTVD

I can't seem to find the CW KWGN or PBS yet.

Anyone else??

My customers and I thank you!! Lew

Comcast is at it again-- the local HD QAM channels have moved.

As of 2pm today I am getting the following:

89-1 ABC KMGH
89-2 CBS KCNC
90-1 FOX KDVR
90-2 NBC KUSA
117-1 My20 KTVD

I can't seem to find the CW KWGN or PBS yet.

Anyone else??
In Boulder, KWGN-DT (CW) and KRMA-DT (PBS) are on channels 116; I cannot easily tell the subchannel but are on 747MHz. I'm sure someone will follow-up.

On my latest bill, there was an informational notice which stated that customer who have a DVR that requires two cable cards, the second would be an addition $1.50 (vs. the $6.95 or whatever they charge for the first one if you already have a box on a separate TV). I don't know what they would charge if you needed one for the TV and two for a DVR.

Thank you!

Yes - after a rescan -- i found the CW (KWGN) on 116-1 and PBS on 116-2

Well, it's not just the QAM folks who have had their channels move. I've got a 6412, and my HD channels are all (or mostly) out of place. For example, Showtime (normally 650) is appearing in place of channel 9 (normally 653), and InHD is appearing where HBO should be. Many of the others are moved as well.

I called Comcast and they said it has been going on since last night and that they probably won't get it fixed until tomorrow. So, if you have any recordings set, verify the channels first. It looks like the SHO boxing tonight will be on 653 instead of 650.

Thanks to edit-for-ever for posting the new Comcast HD QAM channels. We just bought a HD TV that tuned in these HD channels off of Comcast basic cable. We called Comcast today to ask what happened to the local HD channels and their Cust. Serv. rep was clueless about this, they told us that we needed to get a $6/month converter to get local HD channels.

Yes, the audio on Comcast ABC HD (87.1) is messed up on our TV as well. Must be a problem with Comcast.

Thanks to edit-for-ever for posting the new Comcast HD QAM channels. We just bought a HD TV that tuned in these HD channels off of Comcast basic cable. We called Comcast today to ask what happened to the local HD channels and their Cust. Serv. rep was clueless about this, they told us that we needed to get a $6/month converter to get local HD channels.

Even higher ups at Comcast are clueless also. I asked an upper level salesman what happened to FOX QAM a few months ago and he didn't know what a QAM tuner was. He passed the question on to his tech advisor and he replied he didn't know what we were talking about, they didn't broadcast on FM bands (90.1 was FOX old QAM band). At that point I gave up on getting any information from Comcast. Lew Black

What is the deal with CBS not showing games in HD? The Denver game looks like crap.

Update: someone flipped the switch and turned on HD for the Denver game. I still don't understand why CBS shows some games (like the early game today) in SD.

It's supposed to be in HD..... CBS messed up or KCNC is broken.....

Has anyone else been getting allot of glitches thoughout the Bronco game today? It's not happening on OTA. Just comcast here.

I called Comcast a few minutes into the game to ask why the game was not in HD. The representative proceeded to try to convince me that it was in HD but in 4:3. I tryed to explain to her but she insisted. I was stunned by her rudeness and stupidity. Im about this close >< to swithing to Dish Network. Of course a few minutes later it switched to HD.

And my new (to me) box already has the lag. I called Support and they professed to not know about it. I'll try a few things - new batteries, etc. - but doubt that they'll help. On the other hand, he WAS helpful in resolving a problem caused by the STB outputting 480i instead of 720p or 1080i.

I seem to have very old firmware, 10.xx, but that's probably not "it" either.

Doug

Well, this is getting interesting. A few days' experience probably isn't enough to draw many conclusions, but...

I have a feeling there may be two problems cauusing the button-response delays. I got my box on Thursday, and on Thursday and Friday I had some delays. On Thursday (shortly after the box was installed) I called about two problems, as noted above, and the guy thought maybe I had weak batteries. I doubted that, especially as when there are delays even the button on the front of the box don't work (or are delayed.)

On Saturday, I rearranged the room somewhat. I didn't move the equipment, but the loveseat from which I watch the TV is several feet closer to the TV than it was originally. Yesterday and today I've had no delays! I'm also finding that where I aim the control matters.

Now, some Palm PDAs have a weak IR transmitter and thus are less able to act as a remote than most. I'm not using a Palm, but it corroborates the POSSIBLE explanation of a weak signal (distance, aim) affecting things.

So, I wonder if those with non-Comcast remotes, or who are "close" to the TV, have fewer sluggishness problems than those using the Comcast remote from a longer distance.

Basically I'm hypothesizing two problems. One, a weak signal. Two, perhaps triggered by a weak signal something freezes up in the box; in general when things unfreeze my buttons HAVE registered.

Doug

Trust me. It's NOT a week signal!

Trust me. It's NOT a week signal!
Couch is correct. It certainly does matter where you aim the remote, and you don't have to be far off for the box to miss it. However, this is an entirely different problem from the remote command delay.

You can tell for sure when the remote command delay happens very easily. In the lower-right corner of the box's screen there is a little yellow LED that lights up when a command is received. If that LED stays lit, then the box is queuing commands.

I called Comcast a few minutes into the game to ask why the game was not in HD. The representative proceeded to try to convince me that it was in HD but in 4:3. I tryed to explain to her but she insisted. I was stunned by her rudeness and stupidity. Im about this close >< to swithing to Dish Network. Of course a few minutes later it switched to HD.

I called the newsroom and they said they were sharing a transponder with the Chicago game. Once the Chicago game ended, they were able to receive the full HD signal.

Thanks to Carol at KCNC for clarifying.

This may be a stupid question but if i subscribed to Comcast Digital Classic with On demand would i receive the "standard" Cable channel lineup on my other tvs? thanks

Russ

Yes. I have one cable box for my HD set and two other analog sets in the house that receive the standard channels.

I called Comcast a few minutes into the game to ask why the game was not in HD. The representative proceeded to try to convince me that it was in HD but in 4:3. I tryed to explain to her but she insisted. I was stunned by her rudeness and stupidity. Im about this close >< to swithing to Dish Network. Of course a few minutes later it switched to HD.

This happens quite often at the beginning of some games.

Does anyone know what the story is yet locally with the NFL Network HD feeds? I assume that one of the local stations will carry the Broncos-Chiefs game on Thanksgiving, and hopefully that'll be HD. But I would assume that if we don't get the NFL Network HD channel (and of course, we'd probably only find out about it when it magically appears on our programming guide one day), we won't get any of the other games they are airing in HD... I would try asking Comcast if it was possible to actually get answers from them.

Does anyone know what the story is yet locally with the NFL Network HD feeds? I assume that one of the local stations will carry the Broncos-Chiefs game on Thanksgiving, and hopefully that'll be HD. But I would assume that if we don't get the NFL Network HD channel (and of course, we'd probably only find out about it when it magically appears on our programming guide one day), we won't get any of the other games they are airing in HD... I would try asking Comcast if it was possible to actually get answers from them.
On the OTA thread a discussion over the past week or so indicated it would be picked up by KDVR, and KDVR-DT (655 on Comcast, 90-1 QAM) would carry the HD feed.

At the end of the pre-season, Comcast showed 3 or 4 complete NFL HD network games including a live one on 664 here. I hope they were preparing/testing for the important ones starting Nov 23.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edit4ever
Comcast is at it again-- the local HD QAM channels have moved.

89-1 ABC KMGH
89-2 CBS KCNC
90-1 FOX KDVR
90-2 NBC KUSA
117-1 My20 KTVD

In Boulder, KWGN-DT (CW) and KRMA-DT (PBS) are on channels 116; I cannot easily tell the subchannel but are on 747MHz.

On my latest bill, there was an informational notice which stated that customer who have a DVR that requires two cable cards, the second would be an addition $1.50 (vs. the $6.95 or whatever they charge for the first one if you already have a box on a separate TV). I don't know what they would charge if you needed one for the TV and two for a DVR.

If only Longmont will jump on the wagon!!! I rescanned and still only get the "big" four in their original positions.

There may be hope ... ESPNHD is now showing up in the channel listing on comcash's site.

I'm not about to buy any other service from them until HD is really available.

Good news on the CableCard pricing, Series 3 TiVo may be in my future.

# Matt

Anyone know why 90-1 and 90-2 aren't coming in up up Broomfield?
I want my HDTV NBC and FOX

I can tune my QAM receiver to all the other channels and also see a few others:

83-14 Bravo
83-10 CET
117-5
116-1 PBS HD
112-18 Weather+
104-9 FitTV


others I can pick up but didn't spend the time to figure out:
82-8
82.6
82.2
82.1
81.13
81.10
81.9
81.8
81.2
118-10
104.8
104.6
103.2

You guys ever heard od ASEHD?

It shows up as channel 669 up here in Summit county. Nothing on it yet.
I'm hopeing for Avs\nuggets\rockies in HD.


Also any ideas if we might get the Denver locals in HD up here?


Thanks

Altitude Sports and Entertainment High Definition. Not sure about the Rockies, but if it's correct you'd probably see Avs and Nuggets home games. Do you have InHD up there? That's the channel Comcast typically uses to show those games to us here on the flat lands.

Yes we do get Inhd, But we do not anything other than inhd programing.

Thanks i figured it was Altitide.

Come on Denver locals

That's odd; my INHD has both INHD programming and stuff like hockey. The program guide usually shows "off the air" when it's really Altitude/Versus programming.

Doug

Does anyone know if we are going to get the Broncos - Chiefs game in HD on Thanksgiving?

www.titantv.com shows it on Fox (both SD and HD)...

Edit: Well, maybe not, the "HD" symbol isn't present...

Does anyone know if we are going to get the Broncos - Chiefs game in HD on Thanksgiving?

On the program guide, it's on the Fox HD channel, not INHD like all the HD preseason games, so hopefully they will carry the HD feed. Though they didn't for the Den-Ten preseason game that was simulcast from the NFL network. I know the KC affiliate is carrying the HD feed and FOX 31 should be ashamed if KC does it and Denver doesn't.

On the program guide, it's on the Fox HD channel, not INHD like all the HD preseason games, so hopefully they will carry the HD feed. Though they didn't for the Den-Ten preseason game that was simulcast from the NFL network. I know the KC affiliate is carrying the HD feed and FOX 31 should be ashamed if KC does it and Denver doesn't.Hey - you guys could be here in upstate New York where the local cable company hasn't signed an agreement with NFL Network.

No NFL Network agreement for Time Warner (http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=537648&category=SPORTS&BCCode=&newsdate=11/22/2006)

"I want a hamburger... no, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake... " Spaulding Smails
"You'll get nothing, and like it!" Judge Smails

The "HDTV Programming" section claims it'll be HD on Fox31.

Does anyone have a more complete list of the QAM channels that are available? Here's what I've found so far:

85-4 Discovery (not HD)
89-1 KMGH
89-2 KCNC
90-1 KDVR
90-2 KUSA
100-13 TUBE
103-2 Hallmark
104-6 TBS
112-13 KUSA NBC Weather Plus
116-1 KWGN
116-2 KRMA
117-1 KTVD

Unfortunately, my setup doesn't let me scan for channels too easily. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Does anyone have a more complete list of the QAM channels that are available? Here's what I've found so far:

85-4 Discovery (not HD)
89-1 KMGH
89-2 KCNC
90-1 KDVR
90-2 KUSA
100-13 TUBE
103-2 Hallmark
104-6 TBS
112-13 KUSA NBC Weather Plus
116-1 KWGN
116-2 KRMA
117-1 KTVD

Unfortunately, my setup doesn't let me scan for channels too easily. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Note the following is for Comcast Denver:

101.2->101.11 (PPV/InDemand/OnDemand) NOT HD
102.2->102.11 (ditto)
113.2->113.11 (ditto)
100.7 (Fox Sports en espanol)

There are a TON of music chans in the 100+ range even a block of spanish ones in the 100.x range (100.20->100.28 I think)
All Analog chans are the same that are listed on the comcast site (ch 2-99)

EDIT: I am not getting the chans on 116.1 or 116.2 :(

I live in the Littleton area around SW Plaza. My Sony KDS-R6DXBR1 does not pickup Comcast QAM HD channels 116-1 or 117-1 or 117-2 as I have seen others report are here. I especially miss PBS. Before the change a few months back I received PBS fine.
These are the HD channels I do get.

89-1 KMGH
89-2 KCNC
90-1 KDVR
90-2 KUSA
Anyone else having this issue?

I have a Toshiba big-screen with QAM tuner, and I don't seem to be able to tune into 90-1 and 90-2 anybody have ideas?

Hey all,
If I have Comcast basic cable and got a Motorola HD box, I would be able to get HD channels, is that right? I don't have to rent the box from Comcast, do I? Basically I'm asking because I get basic cable free (well, included in a condo up in the hills). I'd like to get some HD channels if possible, but I don't want to deal with renting one with Comcast, I would just buy one used. (if I could find one, anyway)

So if I did this, does anyone know which HD channels I would be able to receive?

I have a Toshiba big-screen with QAM tuner, and I don't seem to be able to tune into 90-1 and 90-2 anybody have ideas?
What area of town are in? Since I get 90.1 and 90.2 but not the 116 or 117 channels on my Sony QAM tuner.

I wasn't at home for Thanksgiving; was the Bronco game on INHD? I know FOX31 picked it up but was curious if the NFL network feed made it to INHD. Will FOX or INHD carry this weeks game? If FOX picks the game up again, what will happen to the normal Thursday night programming? The wife loves her OC.

I wasn't at home for Thanksgiving; was the Bronco game on INHD? I know FOX31 picked it up but was curious if the NFL network feed made it to INHD. Will FOX or INHD carry this weeks game? If FOX picks the game up again, what will happen to the normal Thursday night programming? The wife loves her OC.
INHD was not preempted for this game, but that may be due to the carriage on KDVR. AFAIK KDVR will not carry any other Thursday games this year, but we probably wont know if INHD is preempted until Thursday evening.

comcast cable has added Inhd (664) and espn hd (668) in longmont.

Hi folks,

This is one of the strangest things I've seen yet with the 6412. On Thursday, November 2 my DVR failed to record The Office for some reason (it was the Indian culture episode). I wasn't happy about that, and I didn't know why.

Well, today I checked the DVR to see what was on, and there it was. The Office, with no description but it showed a date of 11/2. It was the episode that I had previously missed. Somehow it just all of a sudden appeared.

My first thought was that maybe KUSA didn't show it on the original night, and that maybe they had re-aired it late last night or today. However, the DVR said it was from 11/2 and it was also in HD. Is it possible that it was there all along, but just didn't show up in the list? It definitely wasn't there before. I only had three programs in the list as of last night, so its not like I forgot to scroll to the bottom.

Hi folks,

This is one of the strangest things I've seen yet with the 6412. On Thursday, November 2 my DVR failed to record The Office for some reason (it was the Indian culture episode). I wasn't happy about that, and I didn't know why.

It's Comcrash, friend. Who the heck knows... including Comcrash's crack staff of firmware programmers. I can only imagine their programmer meetings look like the commercials with chimpanzees in business suits.

:D

I've had this kind of thing happen a few times. I set something to record, but it wasn't there. However, on reboot, it showed up. Your box may have rebooted for some reason.

INHD was not preempted for this game, but that may be due to the carriage on KDVR. AFAIK KDVR will not carry any other Thursday games this year, but we probably wont know if INHD is preempted until Thursday evening.
No preemption of INHD for NFL. Why would they want to preempt for a live event when they can show a 25-year old movie?

Hey all,
If I have Comcast basic cable and got a Motorola HD box, I would be able to get HD channels, is that right? I don't have to rent the box from Comcast, do I? Basically I'm asking because I get basic cable free (well, included in a condo up in the hills). I'd like to get some HD channels if possible, but I don't want to deal with renting one with Comcast, I would just buy one used. (if I could find one, anyway)

So if I did this, does anyone know which HD channels I would be able to receive?


Anyone here have any thoughts on this?

Mike,

If you had an HDTV with a built-in QAM tuner, you could get the local channels in HD without a box. So, if you can get some kind of external QAM tuner I would think you could do this. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of PC tuner cards that have this functionality. Nothing short of a Comcast-approved Moto HD box will get you the encrypted channels.

If you can get a Moto HD box, then it should work, but only if you can get it activated, or if it doesn't need to be activated. I don't know if they need to be activated for basic cable or not.

Thanks mayest. If I got one I would get it activated if need be to get some HD up there.

No preemption of INHD for NFL. Why would they want to preempt for a live event when they can show a 25-year old movie?

I'm disappointed in this. The SD looked awful.

There used to be a section of the Comcast web site that mentioned NFL Network HD being on INHD, but I can't find it now. I suggest we let them know that we'd like the games in HD.

Mike,

If you had an HDTV with a built-in QAM tuner, you could get the local channels in HD without a box. So, if you can get some kind of external QAM tuner I would think you could do this. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of PC tuner cards that have this functionality. Nothing short of a Comcast-approved Moto HD box will get you the encrypted channels.

Sadly it appears the local HD channels are among those encrypted. The FCC's rule on "must carry" says cable providers must pass through the digital feed of local channels for the cost of basic cable. And they do this. But the HD feed doesn't seem regarded as THE digital feed. So they no longer pass that through. Nice, huh?

I think it would be interesting to write the FCC letting them know what Comcrash is doing with local HD under must carry. Course it's ol' W's FCC now. Anybody who writes to criticize one of his big corporate donors may end up at Gitmo for being a "Terrist".

Sadly it appears the local HD channels are among those encrypted. The FCC's rule on "must carry" says cable providers must pass through the digital feed of local channels for the cost of basic cable. And they do this. But the HD feed doesn't seem regarded as THE digital feed. So they no longer pass that through. Nice, huh?
As far as I know, our local HD channels aren't encrypted. A couple of months ago a friend of mine got a new HDTV that has a QAM tuner. He doesn't even pay for cable (he's got E*), but the hookups are there so we plugged it in (knowing that Comcast rarely actually shuts the signal off). Sure enough, we could get basic cable including the local HD channels. Unless something has changed recently, and I think we would have heard by now, then the local HD channels are unencrypted.

I do know, though, that some other cable companies do exactly what Bob says. It is a shame, and I hope that the FCC will step in.

comcast cable has added Inhd (664) and espn hd (668) in longmont.Not if you purchase the HD option on the analog package like I do. We are still (and will be forever) stuck with only the 4 locals. To get the whopping 2 extra channels I need to get a digital package.

What area of town are in? Since I get 90.1 and 90.2 but not the 116 or 117 channels on my Sony QAM tuner.


I'm in Broomfield, 120th and Sheridan. Thanks

Not if you purchase the HD option on the analog package like I do. We are still (and will be forever) stuck with only the 4 locals. To get the whopping 2 extra channels I need to get a digital package.


What do you say to the sales rep to do this? do you need the box? I only pay for the $13 a month and from my experience, they don't want to sell me anything extra unless I'm at the $45 a month level or something like that.

I'd pay an extra $5 a month for the "digital HD " option over my basic service and then I won't have to search every 6 months for the digital subchannels when they move them.

What do you say to the sales rep to do this? do you need the box? I only pay for the $13 a month and from my experience, they don't want to sell me anything extra unless I'm at the $45 a month level or something like that.

I'd pay an extra $5 a month for the "digital HD " option over my basic service and then I won't have to search every 6 months for the digital subchannels when they move them.
I have Standard Cable (which includes Basic and Expanded Basic) which costs me $44.99. Then I have the HDTV Package which includes the Digital Converter and remote which costs me $6.75 for a total of $51.74. The lowest Digital package is $54.94 plus $5.00 for HDTV for a total of $59.94, which is $8.20 more. Not a lot I guess. I need to call Comcast to see if my other TV's will still work without Converter boxes.

Hey guys, first time poster here in the Denver thread. My wife and I will be moving to Lakewood on the first weekend of January. We'll first be living in an apartment for at least 6 months, so we'll likely be using Comcast for television and internet. I'll spend some time reading through the thread here to catch up on the Comcast discussion.

Does anyone here work for Comcast? I don't have work lined up yet and would like to get into the home theater or CATV/DBS world. I'm a 10yr Navy electroncis tech veteran wanting to switch gears a little and get into something else that excites me and is more interesting to me. I know that E* has their headquarters there and there are some opportunites there that may fit me. I also have a contact at a high-end home theater retailer in town. I'm curious if there are any Comcast people here, or if anyone knows someone that works there. I'm just looking for some basic info regarding how they treat their people, ballpark pay range, etc. Feel free to email to keep any info out of the public thread here if needed.

Thanks, and I hope to contribute to the thread as I can. Can't wait to get out there soon.

Mike
michaelmorgan1(at)gmail.com

Welcome to town Mike, but I won't help you unload the moving truck. :D

I don't recall any Comcast employees posting here, but there may be some who read the forum. You might have better luck poking around at DSLReports. I know that there are several Comcast techs who post there regularly. It is a national forum, but I'm sure that one of them could answer some of your questions. Here's a link to the Comcast TV site:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/tvcomcast?r=11 (DSL Reports Comcast TV)

I'm just looking for some basic info regarding how they threat their people.
I hope they don't "threat"en their people too much :D.

I hope they don't "threat"en their people too much :D.

I hope this typo isn't closer to the truth than we'd like to think! ;)

Thanks for the link to DSLReports. I don't think I've seen that place before. I'll definitely check it out.

mayest, you sure you don't wanna help unload? It's a first floor apartment! lol

I hope they don't "threat"en their people too much .

Me too, that's why I asked! lol :D

anyone getting Denver / Dallas game in hd on comcast inhd channel. In Longmont it is not on. This is the 3rd time this week a game was on the guide and not on. 1 avs game and 2 nuggets games. thanks

anyone getting Denver / Dallas game in hd on comcast inhd channel. In Longmont it is not on. This is the 3rd time this week a game was on the guide and not on. 1 avs game and 2 nuggets games. thanks

I think it is blacked out on INHD because it carried by Altitude in the local market. You can get a list of games that Altitude carries in HD at http://www.altitude.tv/hd/nuggets.aspx

Note the following is for Comcast Denver:


EDIT: I am not getting the chans on 116.1 or 116.2 :(

Get a nice connect cable, i.e. from comcast HS internet self-installation kit :) .

anyone getting Denver / Dallas game in hd on comcast inhd channel. In Longmont it is not on. This is the 3rd time this week a game was on the guide and not on. 1 avs game and 2 nuggets games. thanks

As td99 said, when NBATV is airing their HD feeds via INHD from another network besides altitude, the game will be blacked out (they'll carry local HD feeds nationally). Altitide carries their HD feeds for home games on the same channel, 664, but that is not actually INHD airing the games, it's being preempted locally. With the Dallas/Denver game, basically everywhere they have INHD they could see the game except for the markets where the game is airing on Altitude. I don't think the problem you had with the Avs game and the other Nuggets game would be related to this one.

Does anyone here use a home theater PC to record Comcast digital or HD programming? I have a dual analog tuner in my computer which I have connected to standard Comcast cable, in addition to a single ATSC tuner which is connected to an over-the-air antenna, and it works great for me. However, my buddy wants me to set him up with a HTPC, but he has digital cable with HD through Comcast. Is there a way he can get rid of his digital cable/DVR box and just use the home theater PC to watch and record programming such as the local channels in HD, ESPN HD, Discovery, HBO etc in high def? Or would he have to keep his current box and route it through the PC somehow, or (hopefully not) would he just have to use the HTPC and Comcast DVR boxes as seperate inputs on his A/V receiver? Thanks in advance!

In case no one noticed, we now have Universal HD on channel 673. Woo hoo!

Does anyone here use a home theater PC to record Comcast digital or HD programming? I have a dual analog tuner in my computer which I have connected to standard Comcast cable, in addition to a single ATSC tuner which is connected to an over-the-air antenna, and it works great for me. However, my buddy wants me to set him up with a HTPC, but he has digital cable with HD through Comcast. Is there a way he can get rid of his digital cable/DVR box and just use the home theater PC to watch and record programming such as the local channels in HD, ESPN HD, Discovery, HBO etc in high def? Or would he have to keep his current box and route it through the PC somehow, or (hopefully not) would he just have to use the HTPC and Comcast DVR boxes as seperate inputs on his A/V receiver? Thanks in advance!He would still need a digital box. I use SageTV on my HTPC for analog cable, but it also supports digital and HDTV. They way it works is the HTPC has an "IR blaster" connected to the tuner card and attached to the IR receiver of the digital box. SageTV (for example) would then send the appropriate channel change commands to via the blaster to the digital box.

The SageTV forum has lots of info about this: http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/

disco44,

The problem, at the moment, is that all of the HD channels except the locals are encrypted. Therefore, you cannot get ESPNHD, DTHD, and so on without a box. A QAM HD tuner will allow him to get the locals in HD, but nothing else. Last I heard, there are supposed to be some cable card tuners available in new OEM PCs running Vista in 2007. Unfortunately, you apparently won't be able to build one yourself.

You can get more information about this in the HTPC forums:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26

Thank you for the links, I'll do some more research and see what I can find there. I also read something about the cable card tuners in Vista - and not being able to do a build-it-yourself version...very g@y!

I haven't seen this mentioned yet (and I hope I'm not spreading a rumor) but it looks like we'll be getting a new HD sports channel in Janaury. The new channel will have programming from Versus HD and The Golf Channel HD.

Check this out: http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003408626

Woo hoo!...if you're a sports fan that is...

UHD just showed up. Hopefully NGHD will be next.

I have been waiting for UHD! Firefly on Sundays!

Is UHD "skippy" for anyone else? Here it seems to break into pixels about every 5 seconds. Now, while this might sound like normal Comcast HD, it's a bit more than usual.

That's cool... a better addition than MHD but not the greatest. Still, they are adding HD channels finally. Good sign. Looking forward to BSG... I may need to stop watching it on Sci Fi now.

hooray!! comcast adds another HD channel (mhd->tnthd->uhd) with no content that interests me whatsoever. still good to see our HD tier catching up with other comcast regions that get the newer channels first. like many here, my main request is a deal for hdnet and their movie channel is made soon. also pissed that comcast dropped the ball on airing the NFL network games in HD.

espn2,mhd,tnthd,uhd added within the last 6 months is promising (despite the loss of inhd2). add to that the expanded free HD content ondemand.

still hard not to be jealous when you see a fios or cablevision station lineup. wish comcast would just axe a bunch of their analog bandwidth and at the least provide us with all the channels they have contracts with. come on, i pay $138/month for cable and internet, no phone. weak.

Can someone here confirm for me the rental charges per month of a regular HD box and an HD DVR from Comcast?

The DVR is 9.95/month, on top of (for me) 9.95 for the digital classic package. I don't know the cost for a non-DVR box.

Thanks, gakon. That's what I thought the HD DVR was. I'm hearing conflicting numbers on the non DVR HD box. I've heard it's also $10, and I've heard $5. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks, gakon. That's what I thought the HD DVR was. I'm hearing conflicting numbers on the non DVR HD box. I've heard it's also $10, and I've heard $5. Can anyone confirm?I have a non DVR HD box and I'm charged $5.

hooray!! comcast adds another HD channel (mhd->tnthd->uhd) with no content that interests me whatsoever.

I'd put the order of quality in reverse to yours. I have absolutely zero interest in even seeing what may be on MHD. I'll probably be checking out what's on TNT-HD and UHD at least, even though most of the time it's stuff I wouldn't be interested in. TNT seems to show good movies but it's edited for televsion, with commercial breaks, cropped and has these horribly irritating ads running through the films (the worst is this idiotic "Closer" ad, in which they have the protagonist of that show shine her flashlight at you, just in case you didn't notice her walking around in the corner of the screen.) That bascially eliminates whatever quality the actual content may have. UHD has BSG in HD... that alone is enough for me to happy to get the channel. Most of the movies they show are crap, but they do have Back to the Future and Brazil coming up in the next week or so. Two good movies in a week, commercial free and unedited isn't terrible (even if most of the content is).

Thanks, gakon. That's what I thought the HD DVR was. I'm hearing conflicting numbers on the non DVR HD box. I've heard it's also $10, and I've heard $5. Can anyone confirm?

For me it's $5 for the HD service and $5 for the DVR. Before I had the DVR box it was $5 and then went to $10 with the DVR box.

Has anyone seen the "same day release" on OnDemand? I looked quickly this morning after reading this article, but didn't find either of the titles listed. There were some others that I thought had just come out on DVD, but not "Pirates" or "Superman".

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/tech/article/0,2777,DRMN_23910_5222989,00.html

Originally Posted by fluffhead
hooray!! comcast adds another HD channel (mhd->tnthd->uhd) with no content that interests me whatsoever.


i was only referring to the order in which the channels were added. clearly, mhd is the most worthless channel of all. tnt with cropping, commercials, and the irritating screen animations make it only slightly more valuable. uhd at least has some positive aspects, but still doesnt have much that interests me. OAR movies will be a plus though.

For me it's $5 for the HD service and $5 for the DVR. Before I had the DVR box it was $5 and then went to $10 with the DVR box.

Well, the reason I asked is because I have a friend who was checking on the cost of the boxes. They told him it would be $11.95 to rent a standard HD box, and $5 more to rent the HD DVR. So either the rates have gone up (which seems very high) or he got a CSR who didn't have a clue.

Well, the reason I asked is because I have a friend who was checking on the cost of the boxes. They told him it would be $11.95 to rent a standard HD box, and $5 more to rent the HD DVR. So either the rates have gone up (which seems very high) or he got a CSR who didn't have a clue.
It depends on how you ask, and who you ask (many CSRs fit the above description), but the general rule is that for the first box it is a $5 additional charge beyond a non-HD box. So if you get the lowest tier digital package, you can add the HD box for $5. Now, if you are not careful, you might accidentally ask as if you getting a second box, in which case they charge you $6.95 for a "second digital outlet" and $5.00 for the HD box. If you're second TV is cable card capable then you can get the card for $6.95, even though your TV in all likelihood is HD. You don't get an interactive program guide and you don't get OnDemand.

Is UHD "skippy" for anyone else? Here it seems to break into pixels about every 5 seconds. Now, while this might sound like normal Comcast HD, it's a bit more than usual.

I have same problem. Freeze every 5sec.

Thanks, gakon. That's what I thought the HD DVR was. I'm hearing conflicting numbers on the non DVR HD box. I've heard it's also $10, and I've heard $5. Can anyone confirm?

My bill says $9.95.

Originally Posted by fluffhead
hooray!! comcast adds another HD channel (mhd->tnthd->uhd) with no content that interests me whatsoever.


i was only referring to the order in which the channels were added. clearly, mhd is the most worthless channel of all. tnt with cropping, commercials, and the irritating screen animations make it only slightly more valuable. uhd at least has some positive aspects, but still doesnt have much that interests me. OAR movies will be a plus though.

Okay, gotcha. Didn't TNTHD come first? But anyway, I agree, I'd love for Comcast to really step up and add some quality programming like the HDNets (I'd also be pretty happy with NGHD in lieu of that). But the fact that they are adding SOMETHING is a step in the right direction.

I have same problem. Freeze every 5sec.
Well, just to let you know, I had a tech come out and he checked everything in my place (I have a new box, some new cabling...). In the end, it was determined to be something before it got here. After that, some person must have fixed it because UHD is now skip-free.

On my set with a cable card I am unable to receive UHD (673), however I receive it just fine on my other set which uses the MOTO box. The symptom I get varies somewhat, but changing to the channel generally results in delay, a possible entry to the TV's cable card screen which has some card parameters, and then some kind of failure, which may be "Not Authorized", "No Signal", or "Audio Only". None of these result in anything on the display. I had no such problems when MHD and TNT-HD were added.

Anyone here with a cable card able to receive this channel?

I have a similar problem using CableCARDs with a Tivo Series 3 - I see the 673 picture very briefly, then get the cable card diag screen up.

All other HD channels work fine, just not 673. Don't have a cable box, so can't tell if I actually get the channel, but seems like some sort of cable card mapping problem.

I have the Tivo Series 3 as well and am experiencing the same problems. I called Comcast last night to re-hit the cards and still no UHD. When I tune 673 I receive the cablecard pairing screen. I would repeat guided setup but that usually sends my series 3 into confusion and I lose all my channels for a couple of hours each time while waiting for the cc's to update.

I'm using an HD1000U PJ in my basement. Got my Comcast HD set up last week. The initial box was pretty much DOA, so the tech gave me a box that got the few basic channels in SD and HD. Another tech came back on Friday and tested out two boxes before giving me the better of the two. He then went to my splitter & the primary SD set we've got to check on everything. He really took his time -- much more so than the 1st guy -- I was quite impressed, actually.

So far, the viewing has been pretty dang good (for the HD chennels). The Heat-Lakers game was amazing today.

A question -- Is there anywhere (other than here) to get advanced notice on HD programming? The Comcast site was pretty limited where I looked.

Don't know how far ahead you want listings but you can go on the web to HDTV Magazine. Sign up (it's free) and you'll receive daily listings of all HD programming via email.

Thank you! I'm registered.

I have a similar problem using CableCARDs with a Tivo Series 3 - I see the 673 picture very briefly, then get the cable card diag screen up.

All other HD channels work fine, just not 673. Don't have a cable box, so can't tell if I actually get the channel, but seems like some sort of cable card mapping problem.

Looks like the 673 CableCARD problem is fixed.

Has anyone had success getting the 116-117 channels via QAM? I have failed with a MyHD 130 card and an LG stand-alone box, while I was able to get KRMA-DT before the remap in November. My wife is missing her travel shows in high-def. Comcast tech support was no help, as predicted in this forum.

In a related note, is there a template for a complaint letter to the FCC floating around?

Here in Ken Caryl Valley - can tune all the 116-117 channels with a MyHD-130, LG3410a, Sony HDD500.

Not sure where you can go for help.

I have a Motorola 6412 and am pretty happy with it, despite the warts. Still, more space would be nice. Does anyone have a 3416, or know if they are available in the Denver area?

My neighbor has a 3416. He picked it up from the Comcast office on Pierce.

I have a Motorola 6412 and am pretty happy with it, despite the warts. Still, more space would be nice. Does anyone have a 3416, or know if they are available in the Denver area?

Don't do it! Don't! The 34xx boxes are worse than the 64xx boxes. They should dynamite the Motorola factory where they are made (without the people in it, of course).

Don't do it.

:eek:

Don't do it! Don't! The 34xx boxes are worse than the 64xx boxes.
OK. How about a 6416? Any of those in Denver? :p

Don't do it! Don't! The 34xx boxes are worse than the 64xx boxes.

Care to provide some specifics or links as to why the 34xx is worse, and not subject to the same bugs as the 64xx? My biggest problem with the 6412 is when it goes to sleep and accepts no inputs from the remote or the front panel. It is a real pain, but it's my only one. My neighbor's only had his 3416 for a couple of weeks, but I haven't heard him complain about it.

weldon - I suspect you will experience the same bugs with your 3416 as you had with the 6412. An extra 40 gig of space is probably worth it.

Care to provide some specifics or links as to why the 34xx is worse, and not subject to the same bugs as the 64xx? My biggest problem with the 6412 is when it goes to sleep and accepts no inputs from the remote or the front panel. It is a real pain, but it's my only one. My neighbor's only had his 3416 for a couple of weeks, but I haven't heard him complain about it.

weldon - I suspect you will experience the same bugs with your 3416 as you had with the 6412. An extra 40 gig of space is probably worth it.

It locks up all the time, making the manual reboot (pull the plug) necessary. The picture stutters with any lateral movement in the picture. Lots of sound drop outs. And you cannot fast forward or rewind.

I begged them to give me an alternative, and they found an old 6412 in a warehouse. It works so much better it's scary.

No. The 40 extra gigs are not worth the hell you'll go through.

I's been two months since I had the 3412. Maybe they've fixed the firmware problems since (HA!). If not, this latest generation should be the last Magnavox that Comcast should EVER use. They just don't work. And whoever decided to bring this damned thing into Comcast should be fired outright.

It locks up all the time, making the manual reboot (pull the plug) necessary. The picture stutters with any lateral movement in the picture. Lots of sound drop outs. And you cannot fast forward or rewind.

I begged them to give me an alternative, and they found an old 6412 in a warehouse. It works so much better it's scary.

No. The 40 extra gigs are not worth the hell you'll go through.

I's been two months since I had the 3412. Maybe they've fixed the firmware problems since (HA!). If not, this latest generation should be the last Magnavox that Comcast should EVER use. They just don't work. And whoever decided to bring this damned thing into Comcast should be fired outright.

Make that two of us that tried the 3412, then went back to a 6412 by making a stink and forcing someone to go deep into the warehouse. There are glitches in the 6412 but overall they're livable.

I'm not sure if I've wasted a bunch of time on this, but I put together a list of channels my Samsung got via QAM. I live in Highlands Ranch; hopefully this is valid for most, if not all of the Denver area. I don't know how often Comcast realigns these channels, so maybe it will be obsolete in a few days/weeks, but it will help me (and the wife) for a little while, at least. Comments and corrections would be appreciated. There are quite a few more digital channels, but most are empty or scrambled.

gakon - Thank you for sharing this!

A year ago we switched from DirecTivo to Comcast so as to get HD. While the HD has been great, the Comcast PVR is horrible (as everyone knows). With the one-year Comcast special having expired, and who knows when for the Tivo SW upgrade, and HD locals on DirecTV now, it seemed time to switch back. However, I've been wavering because of the 2-year commitment and the lack of PBS HD. The DirecTV install, scheduled for today, has been canceled due to "lack of equipment", giving me more time to deliberate.
Any wise advice for the undecided?
Thanks

My advice would be to wait a couple months to see what the TiVo software looks like on the Motorola box. The word is that Denver is getting really close to rolling out OCAP which is required for the TiVo software.

I hear that HD on satellite doesn't look as good as Comcast and I'm not sure that people are in love with the DVR there either. While you can get TiVo on DirecTV, the HD locals are MPEG-4 and you need the newer box that is something other than TiVo.

My Motorola box works just fine, even though I get annoying behavior every now and then (unresponsive to the remote for a couple minutes being the worst). I'm going to live with it until I can see TiVo on Comcast. If that doesn't work, I'm going to choose something to last until I can get full-power OTA HDTV and ditch pay TV altogether.

Yeah, and I guess the other variable is Windows Vista with CableCard support - I could try going that way Real Soon Now.

A year ago we switched from DirecTivo to Comcast so as to get HD. While the HD has been great, the Comcast PVR is horrible (as everyone knows). With the one-year Comcast special having expired, and who knows when for the Tivo SW upgrade, and HD locals on DirecTV now, it seemed time to switch back. However, I've been wavering because of the 2-year commitment and the lack of PBS HD. The DirecTV install, scheduled for today, has been canceled due to "lack of equipment", giving me more time to deliberate.
Any wise advice for the undecided?
Thanks

PBS-HD is available over-the-air. If the DirecTV box allows you to connect a small UHF antenna or your TV has a built-in digital/HD tuner or both, you should have no problem getting it. It's a strong signal. While everybody else was cursing the snow and ice caking up on their satellite dishes, I was watching with my little set-top Zenith UHF antenna, snug and warm in my living room.

PBS-HD is available over-the-air. If the DirecTV box allows you to connect a small UHF antenna or your TV has a built-in digital/HD tuner or both, you should have no problem getting it. It's a strong signal. While everybody else was cursing the snow and ice caking up on their satellite dishes, I was watching with my little set-top Zenith UHF antenna, snug and warm in my living room.
I've been told we can't receive digital OTA here in the "Boulder Valley", West of Longmont. I'm trying to find some evidence for that, though. Are there any web-sites with accurate coverage maps? My TV is just a monitor (42" LCD), so no tuner to try. Wait - perhaps my Comcast PVR has one!
Thanks

Go over to the OTA thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=28456&page=594&pp=30) and ask there. I've run a couple of line-of-sight profiles for people in that area, but I can't recall what their experiences were. If one of the Tables blocks your view of either downtown or Lookout Mtn., you're not likely to get OTA from that source, but nothing is really certain with the low power digital signals currently being transmitted.

I've been told we can't receive digital OTA here in the "Boulder Valley", West of Longmont. I'm trying to find some evidence for that, though. Are there any web-sites with accurate coverage maps? My TV is just a monitor (42" LCD), so no tuner to try. Wait - perhaps my Comcast PVR has one!
Thanks

If the Comcast PVR receives OTA, that's news to me. If it works like that, let me know how. Thanks.

VS is up on 672

VS is up on 672

Bass Masters in HD. I can't wait! :p

It also looks like they changed the font on the Guide and added "HD" to the program description.

Any word on if or when Fox Sports HD is coming? Baseball is coming. :D

Bass Masters in HD. I can't wait! :p

It also looks like they changed the font on the Guide and added "HD" to the program description.

Yeah, it looks like we're sort of halfway to the new guide. We have the "HD" bits, but not the new home page:

http://www.comcast.com/newguide/

The VSGLF addition is decent if you're a hockey fan. One of the irritating things about VS for me was that they'd often not air the Avs games they showed in HD when it would have been if Altitude aired it. But now every game VS airs will be in HD. And if you're a golf fan you'll enjoy the golf. But other than that, it'll trump MHD as the worst HD channel in the lineup.

At least Comcast is continuing to add channels at a faster rate, even if the quality of the channels leaves a lot to be desired. Since last summer they've added ESPN2HD, TNTHD, MHD, UHD and now VSGLF while dropping only INHD2. That's a positive trend. If Comcast corporate would just make a deal with the HDNets already then we could have something...

If you use the Tivo Series 3, can you get all of the same HD channels that you can with the 6412? Also, how does the picture compare between the two?
Also, I currently live in San Francisco, but we will be moving to Denver at the end of Feb. We bought a house in Cheesmen Park (not sure if I spelled that right). I was told by our inspector that if we want to have cable installed into a room that does not already have cable in it, that we should have some one besides Comcast install the cables. He said that they do a hack job. I was wondering what experience others have had when it comes to them installing cable?
Also, how is there cable modem? I work from home and need to be able to send files that can get up to around 500mb, so I needless to say I need a very fast connection.

I've been told we can't receive digital OTA here in the "Boulder Valley", West of Longmont. I'm trying to find some evidence for that, though. Are there any web-sites with accurate coverage maps? My TV is just a monitor (42" LCD), so no tuner to try. Wait - perhaps my Comcast PVR has one!
ThanksPeople who live in Boulder proper are screwed because they sit in a bowl below Davidson Mesa (that big hill on 36 with the scenic overlook). Longmont, OTOH, is far enough back to see "over" DM and other ridges like the one in Niwot. It is certainly possible to get digital OTA from West Longmont, but you will need a good outdoor antenna.

People who live in Boulder proper are screwed because they sit in a bowl below Davidson Mesa (that big hill on 36 with the scenic overlook). Longmont, OTOH, is far enough back to see "over" DM and other ridges like the one in Niwot. It is certainly possible to get digital OTA from West Longmont, but you will need a good outdoor antenna.

You should qualify that and say you're screwed "when it comes to OTA HDTV". You live in beautiful Boulder! Close to the mountains, great views and trails all around!

I live in old Morrison and there's no way I can get a direct line of sight to Lookout Mountain. While free OTA HDTV would be nice, there's no way I'd live east of the Ridge just to get TV reception.

You should qualify that and say you're screwed "when it comes to OTA HDTV". You live in beautiful Boulder! Close to the mountains, great views and trails all around!
Point taken!

And if the OTA stations are enough HDTV for you, the Comcast basic service is not all that expensive vs. the hassle of mounting an antenna.

If you use the Tivo Series 3, can you get all of the same HD channels that you can with the 6412? Also, how does the picture compare between the two?
Also, I currently live in San Francisco, but we will be moving to Denver at the end of Feb. We bought a house in Cheesmen Park (not sure if I spelled that right). I was told by our inspector that if we want to have cable installed into a room that does not already have cable in it, that we should have some one besides Comcast install the cables. He said that they do a hack job. I was wondering what experience others have had when it comes to them installing cable?
Also, how is there cable modem? I work from home and need to be able to send files that can get up to around 500mb, so I needless to say I need a very fast connection.
When we moved into our south suburban home 6 years ago the Comcast guy spent the whole day "rewiring" the house, when whatever was left behind by the previous owner was getting SUPERB reception. I think he wanted to kill a day. You should get more opinions though.

When we finished our basement we had a 3rd party do the cabling.

I like our Comcast cable modem. It's very fast. I think it's supposed to be 3mbps, though upload speeds can be different. Sometimes it seems to slow when both lady and I have both laptops doing wireless, but that may be a wireless router bottleneck. If you know of any analysis software I can run I can give it a quick test for you.

Point taken!

And if the OTA stations are enough HDTV for you, the Comcast basic service is not all that expensive vs. the hassle of mounting an antenna.

Exactly. I just get the basic cable that comes with my high speed internet service. While I don't use OnDemand too much, it's amazing they provide it for 'free.' Hundreds of movies and TV shows available from dozens of different channels...no commercials...and no monthly cost!

I had DIRECTV free for several years (as an employee). While it was nice, there's no way I'm would pay for a service that costs so much per month (for as little as I would use it). If Voom was still around, I might consider that. Unfortunately you can't subscribe to either DISH or DIRECTV HD channels without first getting a base package.

I second the opinion on Fox Sports Network -- when's it coming? In my opinion, it's the last major HD sports net still missing from Comcast as of now. About 6 HD Rockies games per month plus at least one good college football game a week in the fall, PAC 10 basketball etc.

I am moving to denver in february and I want to be sure that I am getting the best plan possible. I am really only interested in all of the premium HD channels, Discover, History, TNT, ect. I have not inteterest in sport channels at all, or even mtv, cooking channels, golf channels etc. I will nee to have at least one box that will have firewire active. I am currently using the Moto 6412 with RCN in San Francisco, and the box is very finicky. I frequently have to unplug it so that the fast forward and rewind will work. So what is the best plan foe some one interested in HD channels and already has a TV with and HD OTA tuner?

What the hell is with the new pop up ads on the bottom of the guide?

I'm not sure if I've wasted a bunch of time on this, but I put together a list of channels my Samsung got via QAM. I live in Highlands Ranch; hopefully this is valid for most, if not all of the Denver area. I don't know how often Comcast realigns these channels, so maybe it will be obsolete in a few days/weeks, but it will help me (and the wife) for a little while, at least. Comments and corrections would be appreciated. There are quite a few more digital channels, but most are empty or scrambled.

Dang, someone should link this in the first message of this thread. Thanks a ton Gakon!

Howdy all, I'm a newbie to this forum; just got my first HD (Olevia 337H) and gonna call up comcast to upgrade to an HD package. Next after that will be to get an HDHomeRun so that I can get the QAM channels in SageTV.

You're welcome. If anyone happens to stumble across any other Music Choice channels, please let me know. I know there are a lot more music channels than what I found, but I don't know why they wouldn't be accessible via QAM. Maybe it's just the tuner in my TV.

I am moving to denver in february and I want to be sure that I am getting the best plan possible. I am really only interested in all of the premium HD channels, Discover, History, TNT, ect. I have not inteterest in sport channels at all, or even mtv, cooking channels, golf channels etc. I will nee to have at least one box that will have firewire active. I am currently using the Moto 6412 with RCN in San Francisco, and the box is very finicky. I frequently have to unplug it so that the fast forward and rewind will work. So what is the best plan foe some one interested in HD channels and already has a TV with and HD OTA tuner?The only time I've ever had those problems with the 6412 here is after downloading shows via firewire. The biggest problem I have is when it ignores any commands from the front panel or the remote for up to 5 minutes. But that hasn't happened in a little while.
As far as HD plans, Comcast has only one that will provide the channels you want. They require you to get at least the lowest digital package, then you need the HD box. With the DVR, it comes to about $65/month for me. You'll pay extra if you want the movie channels (HBO, showtime, etc.). There is no way to not get the sports/cooking/junk channels. We do not have the History channel in HD (I didn't even think that existed yet).

We do not have the History channel in HD (I didn't even think that existed yet).
I think it might exist in Britain on SkyHD. The last I heard for a US History Channel HD launch was "2007", so who knows.

What the hell is with the new pop up ads on the bottom of the guide?
Bloody awful, aren't they? As if there isn't enough ads, they'll now catch you while scrolling.


just got my first HD (Olevia 337H) and gonna call up comcast to upgrade to an HD package.
Try OTA (over the air) too. Hook up some cheap rabbit ears if the Olevia will handle it and see what you get. We get incredible HD reception OTA on one of our non-Comcast HD sets.

You're welcome. If anyone happens to stumble across any other Music Choice channels, please let me know. I know there are a lot more music channels than what I found, but I don't know why they wouldn't be accessible via QAM. Maybe it's just the tuner in my TV.
Ditto on thanks for the channel list. I scanned my Comcast cable for DTV-Cable on my new laptop Autumnwave OnAir-GT tuner and got a bunch of QAM channels. Your list has been accurate so far. I get the 6 or 7 HD channels, which is more reliable for recording than OTA.

Denver Comcast customers, please call Comcast and complain every day if the new guide ads bother you as much as they do me. Every person I've contacted in their help department as fully agreed with me that they are obtrusive and unnecessary. To push something so obnoxious and unwanted (with no opt-out) in a service that I pay $100/mo. for is COMPLETELY unacceptable. I have informed then (especially now that my promotional rate is up) that I will be switching to satellite within the month if the ads are not removed or at least implemented in way that doesn't rape the functionality of the already crappy guide.

Both people I've spoken with so far have stated that they've gotten a flood of calls complaining about this. Unless Comcast truly doesn't care about satisfied customers (which I was) turning into irate customers (which I am) overnight, I think frequent complaints should take care of the problem.

Both people I've spoken with so far have stated that they've gotten a flood of calls complaining about this. Unless Comcast truly doesn't care about satisfied customers (which I was) turning into irate customers (which I am) overnight, I think frequent complaints should take care of the problem.

This came up a few months ago, maybe late summer. Kicked it around 20 pages or so back in this thread. It lasted about a week and they took the ads away, presumably because of the complaints. Hopefully they get the hint the second time around. Maybe they thought we forgot :mad:

What the hell is with the new pop up ads on the bottom of the guide?

They tried this once before. It's part of the "new" program guide... the one that's so slow I used to be able to change channels faster when I had to get up from the couch, walk over to the TV, and turn THE KNOB! In 1965!

Comcast, will you fix these forsaken Motorola crap cans at long last? Where is the Panasonic? Where! A year ago you announced them at CES. Another CES has come and gone. We need something new. Get rid of this garbage!

Cool, just got hooked up today with comcast digital. Looks quite excellent. The wife is already a fan of on-demand. Just need my HDHomeRun and I'll get the local HD channels through SageTV.

I asked this in another forum, but I'll ask again here as well -- for the HD broadcasts in 4:3, is there an easy way to get them to stretch horizontally to fill the screen? The aspect modes I have on my TV (Olevia 337h) are aspect, full screen, zoom1, zoom2 and 1:1. The only ones that seem to do anything are the zooms, but they cut the top and bottom off as well...

Cool, just got hooked up today with comcast digital. Looks quite excellent. The wife is already a fan of on-demand. Just need my HDHomeRun and I'll get the local HD channels through SageTV.

I asked this in another forum, but I'll ask again here as well -- for the HD broadcasts in 4:3, is there an easy way to get them to stretch horizontally to fill the screen? The aspect modes I have on my TV (Olevia 337h) are aspect, full screen, zoom1, zoom2 and 1:1. The only ones that seem to do anything are the zooms, but they cut the top and bottom off as well...
I think it's a function of what's available from your TV set. Perhaps others will chime in and confirm. We've gotten used to leaving our Sony and Sharp on 4:3 in such cases, as the distortion is too ... distorted!

Someone told me that some cable channels are included with the internet service and that I could be getting the local HD channels via QAM w/o a cable subscription. Is this true?If I cancel my cable TV service (and keep the internet service), will I still get the HD locals on QAM?

I couldn't give up my High-speed Internet, but I'm tempted to take my $60+/month for HDTV and invest that into a S3 TiVo or buy some QAM tuners for my Mac or Windows MCE computers. I would give up a couple cable shows that I like, but the iTunes store might still be cheaper.

weldon, I'm pretty sure that just having Comcast HSI does NOT mean that you are supposed to get basic cable for free. However, your cable would probably still work. I don't think they actually shut off the TV portion. I have a friend with D* and Comcast HSI, and he can still get the locals, including HD versions. I don't think that Comcast sanctions this. Of course, I could be wrong.

Someone told me that some cable channels are included with the internet service and that I could be getting the local HD channels via QAM w/o a cable subscription. Is this true?If I cancel my cable TV service (and keep the internet service), will I still get the HD locals on QAM?

I couldn't give up my High-speed Internet, but I'm tempted to take my $60+/month for HDTV and invest that into a S3 TiVo or buy some QAM tuners for my Mac or Windows MCE computers. I would give up a couple cable shows that I like, but the iTunes store might still be cheaper.

Weldon, you are almost correct. If you have Comcast high speed internet WITHOUT cable, it runs about $55 a month.

If you tell them to turn on the lifeline or most basic package, it costs about $13 a month and they give you a $10 discount on your high speed internet service...so it would run you about $58 a month for the HD locals plus the high speed internet. If you have a QAM tuner in your TV, you will get the open digital/HDTV channels without needing to rent a tuner from Comcast. If you don't have a QAM tuner, you'll have to pay about $5 or $6 to rent an HDTV tuner.

BTW, you might still get the HDTV channels if you 'cancel' the cable service.

mayest & morrisonhiker,

thanks for the explanation. So it's possible that I could still receive the unencrypted channels w/o cable service but that is not what Comcast intended. In any case, I could add lifeline cable for only $3 more than just HSI on its own anyways (because of the $10 discount). I guess I wouldn't mind paying $3/mo to be on the right side of my agreement with Comcast. I'll have to look into that.

Yup, but MorrisonHiker is right that you will need a QAM tuner unless you want to rent a box.

BTW, you might still get the HDTV channels if you 'cancel' the cable service.

Keep in mind that sometimes the service tech that comes out to turn off cable TV when you 'cancal' just to have internet cable might put a block/tap on the line going to the house to only allow internet signals to pass through.

Those ads are ridiculous. Has anybody checked out to see if this violates their terms of service? If so, you would have a case for a credit card charge dispute. If we were on a contract, it would be easy to justify (guide functionality is diminished). This is quantifiable in terms of additional remote commands to achieve prior functionality (extra click to bypass the ad) and in terms of information presented in the guide (20% reduction - 5 lines to 4).

It's utter garbage. I may call and issue the ultimatum: Remove my ads; or refund my cable bill for the month(s) that the ads are present; or face a BBB complaint and credit card charge dispute.

I emailed Comcast about the ads yesterday. This was their response. Doesnt sound like they will be going away any time soon.

"Comcast is using our technology to educate our customers about the value of Comcast Digital Cable service. The banner ads you are seeing on your guide, provide tips and instructions on how to use certain features, like Parental Controls and Favorites. They also promote various programs that are in your regular channel line-up, and provide you with the option to easily set a reminder or recording, tune directly to the program, see other show times, and perform the other functions available on the program information screen.

You will not be charged for view details of any banner ad. The banners simply lead you to information on programs that may be of interest to you. You will only be charged if you order a program with an associated charge - for instance, a Pay Per View or ON DEMAND program or movie.

If you would like to scroll through your television listings without highlighting the ads, use the Page Up and Page Down buttons on your remote.

Comcast is planning to continue showing these ads; however, we do appreciate you sharing your point of view. It is our goal to make sure your Digital Cable television experience is as valuable to you as possible. Thank you for your feedback. I will be happy to share it with the Comcast team that is working on these ads.


If you have additional questions, please reply to this e-mail or chat with one of our online customer support specialist 24 hours a day 7 days a week at http://www.comcastsupport.com/videochat

Thank you for choosing Comcast as your Cable TV service provider."

Sincerely,
Raquel
Comcast Customer Care Specialist

Comcast does not give a **** about its customers. Once you establish this fact, you can understand the ads. The ads are making them money. They couldn't care less that not ONE customer likes them (I'm very confident in this assertion). I've called every single day to complain about them, even got one girl to put through the complaint to corporate with instructions to call me with an explanation. Needless to say, I've received no call. Every Comcast rep I've talked to says they personally hate the ads as well.

Not to much mention how incredibly insulting it is to my intelligence that they pass this garbage off as a "feature" to inform me how to use the goddamn menu that anyone with a pulse could figure out how to use within 5 minutes of owning the box.

I'm a perfect illustration of how little Comcast cares about their customers (why would they, they're a monopoly). I went from extremely satisfied with the service and their increasing HD lineup, to extremely dissatisfied overnight and they can't even give me the courtesy of a phone call to tell me how little I mean to them.

If I could get even half the HD channels I wanted (since I basically lose all the locals) on Dish or DirecTV, I would've switched the day after the ads appeared.

Disgusting.

HI--

Is anyone else in the Lakewood area having problems with receiving the HD signals from Comcast via a QAM tuner? I was watching 24 last night and lost the signal during the first hour. When it was over, I checked and none of the digital channels seem to be working except for the audio only channels (though they don't show any picture).

I checked this morning and it's the same: 90-1, 90-2, and the other HD channels for the local stations show "no signal", though the TV's signal strength meter shows there's a signal there.

Also, the analog channels are working, and the digital SD channels, as well as VOD are working via the cable box.

charlie

I don't have Qam but I did loose most of the SD analog stations throught the 6412 & strait though cable up to at least 99 a lttle after 5 this morning. There were a few here & there that worked. I didn't check the higher didgital stations. All the locals worked howerver & the local HD channels worked through the box.

Everything was back to normal by 5:30.

I didn't check the higher didgital stations. All the locals worked howerver & the local HD channels worked through the box.

Everything was back to normal by 5:30.

Hmm. Thanks. I think maybe my tuner is out. I've got it hooked up straight to the cable from the wall, and I don't get a single digital station. All the analog ones are there.

Also, I just hooked up an antenna and tried searching for stations. It found KCNC, though the signal level isn't very good. It also found KUSA-HD and Weather Plus. They have better signal levels, but I'm still not getting a picture. So I'm thinking it's a problem with the set...

charlie

A little of topic, but I am wondering if someone can help me. I was under the impression that Comcast compressed the signal. In thinking about it, it would seem to make sense that Comcast is in fact doing that. In other forums, there's a lot of talk about pixelation caused by compression and I am curious what may be the cause of it because we see it at times, too.

I have a Comcast 6412 III HD receiver, hooked up to a Pioneer 5070. About once a week the box will lockup and I will have to unplug it for about ten seconds, then it will work again. I went to the local Comcast "store" to see what boxes they are giving out currently. They said they have the 6200. Does anyone know if that one is better than the 6412 III ?

I have a Comcast 6412 III HD receiver, hooked up to a Pioneer 5070. About once a week the box will lockup and I will have to unplug it for about ten seconds, then it will work again. I went to the local Comcast "store" to see what boxes they are giving out currently. They said they have the 6200. Does anyone know if that one is better than the 6412 III ?

The 6200 works fine as an HD tuner...but doesn't have a DVR. Doesn't your 6412 have a 120 gig HD in it or am I getting the models confused?

A little of topic, but I am wondering if someone can help me. I was under the impression that Comcast compressed the signal. In thinking about it, it would seem to make sense that Comcast is in fact doing that. In other forums, there's a lot of talk about pixelation caused by compression and I am curious what may be the cause of it because we see it at times, too.
My understanding is that on most systems Comcast passes the signal unmolested, except for a harmless conversion from ATSC to QAM. I haven't heard anything about our system being compressed, but I don't know for sure.

I do know that some of the locals are simulcasting, so that may be causing the problems you are seeing. However, it seems more likely that you might have a low signal problem.

One problem that I see every night is on the Fox 31 local news (digital channel 655). Even though it isn't in HD, I'm pretty sure that they are heavily compressing their footage from the field cameras. I see some squiggly white lines on the highlights (people's cheekbones and noses are a good example). I don't notice this on other channels, and I don't see it on Fox 31's studio shots. I'm only guessing, but I suspect that is a compression problem at the source.

One problem that I see every night is on the Fox 31 local news (digital channel 655). Even though it isn't in HD, I'm pretty sure that they are heavily compressing their footage from the field cameras. I see some squiggly white lines on the highlights (people's cheekbones and noses are a good example). I don't notice this on other channels, and I don't see it on Fox 31's studio shots. I'm only guessing, but I suspect that is a compression problem at the source.

If you look closely, I'm pretty sure it is sometimes visible in the studio shots also. I've also seen it occasionally on locally-upconverted filmed programs. I've seen it both OTA and via Comcast in Ft. Collins.

Interesting. I'll have to look more closely at the studio shots. Since you also see it OTA, that clearly indicates that it is a Fox 31 problem, not due to Comcast.

I see what I believe to be compression artifacts all the time. For example, in movies (say, HBO-W non HD), when there is a lot of action and the picture is changing rapidly, I'll see pixelation occur.

I see what I believe to be compression artifacts all the time. For example, in movies (say, HBO-W non HD), when there is a lot of action and the picture is changing rapidly, I'll see pixelation occur.

The KDVR thing looks a little different than the "blockiness" that I usually consider to be compression artifacts that occur mostly with fast motion.

On the other hand, I didn't see these "highlight" artifacts at all in the last couple of hours of KDVR I watched, so maybe it has been fixed. It was generally pretty subtle.

Here's another weird thing that might be related to compression.

Whenever you have standard text against a background, there are little random colored "ghost" pixels around the text. This is referring to, say, white standardized text (in a standard font, say Arial) on some background (especially noticeable on the music channels where they give song info).

The exact effect looks remarkably similar to if you put text on a standard computer JPEG and saved it with extremely high compression (= low JPEG quality) settings.

Hello,

I am in the process of building my HTPC and was wondering if someone in the Boulder/Broomfield area could give me this information about Comcast.

Anyone from Boulder/Broomfield who has an HTPC with HD tuner card, can you tell me if the premier channels (especially Discovery HD and TNT HD) are QAM encrypted?

thanks,
Arun

TNT sometimes is, sometimes isn't. Discovery is encrypted.

I also found that Comcast has been encrypting 116.1 and 116.2. What channel is TNT on?

I have no problem with 116-1 and 116-2 in Highlands Ranch. Those are CW and PBS. I don't know what channel TNT is; I think it's encrypted all of the time.

I am considering to buy Tivo series 3 to replace Comcast HD/DVR. I am paying $10 for HD/DVR now. I heard that I need rent two HD cable card for $3 ($1.50 each), so the saving will be only $7 per month. Is my calculation right? Is it worth for the trouble?

Xiaoyu,

Xiaoyu, even if you do save $7 per month, it would take many years to earn back the cost of those TiVos, even longer if you have to pay the monthly fees to TiVo.

I looked at this awhile back, and there was no way that I could justify the cost of the TiVo Series 3. For me, as a lifetime subscriber since the Series 1, I could have bought one for $800 + $200 for continuation of the lifetime (no monthly fee) service. Sure, I'd prefer to have TiVo over the 6412, but not at anywhere near that price. Note, too, that I'm not all that price-sensitive. I'd buy the TiVo in a heartbeat if I thought it offered enough substantial advantages.

Well, my current Motorola 3412 had a glitch where it tricked itself that the DVR was full, so it didn't record Heroes tonight. This is the second time it's happened. I called Comcast to bitch about it, and I asked the operator when the Panasonic OCAP DVRs would be available, and she said they're available now. Has anyone else heard this? I'll probably swing by a payment center and swap it out in a day or two. They've gotta be better than the Motorolas. If I'm not mistaken, they at least have a much larger hard drive.

I better call them again before I go to confirm they actually have these things, since misinformation from Comcast CSRs is the norm rather than the exception...

Humm? There's nothing about it on the HDTV recorders forum yet.

Well, like I said, I'm definitely calling again to confirm they have them. It doesn't take long to figure out that you can't count on anything a Comcast CSR says.

Well, sure enough, I called Comcast to confirm they had the Panasonics, and sure enough they don't. At least that's what this CSR told me. I suspect this one is right, though. She said that they're letting the employees test them first or something and that they'll probably be available in the summer. But I might as well just pick a random date on the calendar... that'll be as reliable as anything a CSR has to say. It's really amazing how consistently you get bad information from Comcast CSRs.

I've been reading this forum, and did some searches within it, but would like to clarify one thing before I pull the trigger and buy a HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM tuner. We currently have the extended basic cable (analog) package. If I were to get the QAM tuner for my HTPC, would I be able to get all of the local channels in HD with the cable package I currently have, or do you need a digital cable package? The OTA antenna I have just isn't cutting it up north in Thornton here, and until they get the towers built on Lookout Mtn I'd like to find the cheapest solution to get local HD channels in the meantime. Thanks in advance!

I've been reading this forum, and did some searches within it, but would like to clarify one thing before I pull the trigger and buy a HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM tuner. We currently have the extended basic cable (analog) package. If I were to get the QAM tuner for my HTPC, would I be able to get all of the local channels in HD with the cable package I currently have, or do you need a digital cable package? The OTA antenna I have just isn't cutting it up north in Thornton here, and until they get the towers built on Lookout Mtn I'd like to find the cheapest solution to get local HD channels in the meantime. Thanks in advance!

All you need is the cheapest package (~$13 or $10 with broadband) and you will receive all the QAM channels, including the analog, digital and HD versions of the local channels. You will get a few other public service channels as well as the music channels. You do NOT need to upgrade to digital cable.

Awesome! Thanks for the info MorrisonHiker. One last thing, is there any chance that Comcast will all the sudden encrypt the locals, or do they by law have to be unencrypted?

They should remain unencrypted, but a few MSO's (outside of Denver) have taken the position that the SD analog channel is available unencrypted and that this meets the FCC requirement so they are free to encrypt the digital or HD version of the channel. When all channels switch to digital, this potential loophole should go away.

Right on, thanks for the info fellas!

I just noticed that my TV and HTPC are both picking up station information along with the digital channel signal (e.g. PBS now shows up as KRMA HD) and also channel numbers have changed to 0-653 through 0-658. The exception is the MyNetwork (channel 20) that remains at 117-1. Haven't seen any programming info yet, but maybe we're heading that way?

Any other QAM users notice this or have any other info?

Derek

I just noticed that my TV and HTPC are both picking up station information along with the digital channel signal (e.g. PBS now shows up as KRMA HD) and also channel numbers have changed to 0-653 through 0-658. The exception is the MyNetwork (channel 20) that remains at 117-1. Haven't seen any programming info yet, but maybe we're heading that way?

Any other QAM users notice this or have any other info?

Derek

Yes, I just noticed this last night too. All of my 90.1, 90.2, etc lineups are now 0.652, 0.653, etc. At first I didn't care except that my TV has a built in DVR and TV guide on screen and it won't let me input a channel with a leading 0!!!! So now I can't use the TV guide on screen to setup shows to record in HD!!! I might be able to work around it but it looks like at the very least I'm going to lose the above mentioned ability with CBS HD. Ugh, I can't wait until the stupid HD tower on Lookout mountain is built so I can get all of them OTA.

I just noticed that my TV and HTPC are both picking up station information along with the digital channel signal (e.g. PBS now shows up as KRMA HD) and also channel numbers have changed to 0-653 through 0-658. The exception is the MyNetwork (channel 20) that remains at 117-1. Haven't seen any programming info yet, but maybe we're heading that way?

Any other QAM users notice this or have any other info?

Derek

I did a channel scan on my Samsung LCD this morning and saw no changes in channel assignments. All of the original assignments (e.g., 90-2, 117-1) still work. I also get no station information. Where are you located?

I noticed the change a couple days ago. I can still tune in the old channel such as 90.2 but the display will now show 0.653 or something similar. I haven't tried doing a channel scan since it takes FOREVER to remove the empty channels from my list of active channels.

The change in Longmont happened last night right between I.C.E. and Lost (9pm MDT). I have a complete recording of I.C.E. on my S3 TiVo at its old channel location and nothing (no signal, zero recording time) from Lost. Luckily, I have Lost set up on my SD TiVo as well.
I did a rescan and it appears that Longmont has added more InTheClear QAM HD.

Before we only had ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX.
Now I have found: ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, PBS. (also the SD Ch7's weather appears as 0-247).
All HD shows as 0-65x range, in the guide list, but display as 0-5x when changed to the channel on the S3. I will look for My20 tonight.

Interesting that the Comcast "My Channel Lineup" still only shows the original big-4.
(INHD, Vs/Golf HD, and ESPN HD are still listed)

# Matt

I haven't tried doing a channel scan since it takes FOREVER to remove the empty channels from my list of active channels.Yeah - I set myself up for a lot of rework by doing a scan. I was hoping I would get some information (channel name, program info) by doing that, but it doesn't look like I get any of that. I'll try to check more, but I never saw anything like the 0-653 assignments when I looked at the more detailed channel info.

I was just wondering about this too, 90.1 and 90.2 was gone, tonight I'll try a rescan and see if I pick up FOX at 0-652.

I did a channel scan on my Samsung LCD this morning and saw no changes in channel assignments. All of the original assignments (e.g., 90-2, 117-1) still work. I also get no station information. Where are you located?

I'm in Boulder, and have a newer Samsung. I didn't do a rescan. I wasn't picking up a couple of HD channels, and when I went into the Channel Manager to see what happened. I noticed all these 0-65x channels I'd never seen before, and it turned out they were now the HD channels. The old numbers disappeared from my channel manager (except for 117-1).

Derek

All of you who have posted your locations are well north of me (Boulder, Louisville, Longmont). Maybe this change was dependant on location. MorrisonHiker and JimDog, are you in the same general area?

airberger - my Samsung is newer as well (LN-S4096 - a 2006 model), so I would think the QAM tuners would operate similarly. I spent a lot of time in the Channel Manager and saw no 0-65X channels.

I'm in Morrison (hence the screenname).

It finally 'clicked' in my head what these numbers are. If you have a Comcast HD tuner, the channels are like 653, 654, 655, etc. for the HD locals. Comcast is just remapping the channels to that if you know them on the HD receiver, you can use 0.653, 0.654, 0.655, etc. These are the same HD channels I've been getting all along with the QAM tuner at 89.1, 89.2, 90.1, etc. Either set of channels work for me...so it's a feature and nothing for me to complain about!

I'm in Morrison (hence the screenname). OK, it was obvious, but maybe you just hiked in Morrison. :) Anyway, that might put a damper on my theory, but I don't know where the borders between Comcast's service areas (if there are any) might be.

It finally 'clicked' in my head what these numbers are. If you have a Comcast HD tuner, the channels are like 653, 654, 655, etc. for the HD locals. That one I got right away. But my TV doesn't seem to like 0-XXX inputs for TV channels. By the way, I assume your re-mapped channels start at 652 (that's KMGH/7 on my cable box).

But, I get nothing if I tune to 89-1 or the ilk (where I got the channels before). If I tune to 0-652 the display re-maps it to 0-52. So, what is really going on here?

# Matt

I'm in Aurora and noticed this change the other day as well. When I do a channel scan on my LG 37LC2D, it finds the 0-6xx channels. The problem I have is when I turn the TV off, the 0-6xx channels are not saved in the channel lineup and there doesn't seem to be a way to manually input the channels. Inputting 0-6xx on the remote doesn't work for me. The 0 seems to be ignored and I end up with 6x-x.

Scott

I was at a friends house last night - and he had a Vizio Lcd with just the standard comcast feed into it. I rescannd his channels - and it found 0-652, 0-652 etc...

At first - it seemed like they wouldn't tune in - but when I looked through the found channels - it had 89 through 94 as analog channels - so I turned those off.

Bam! HD channels came in fine on 0-652 with channel ids (KMGH-HD) and get this... a full guide for the channel!!!

Not sure what Comcast is doing - but i worked great with this Vizio tv - I'm afraid to do a rescan on my Sony DHG-500.

I am in Denver and nothing has been remaped yet. I still get the usual 89.1, 89.2, 90.1, and 90.2. I still do not get 116.1 and 116.2, but MY (117.1) comes thru fine.