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John Mason

11-09-05, 08:33 AM

What is IPTV? and UniversalHD?
Internet Protocol TV. Used within a cable system, it's delivering video or other data in packet form, as with the international Internet. This differs from switched broadcasting (http://www.bigbandnet.com/news/inTheNews/2005/news_053105a.php), slated for '06-'07 installations at TWC systems according to press reports.

Universal HD is G.E.'s program service, which includes the Bravo network.

Also how do I access Diag mode to tune in to 779 and is it something i have to do EVERY time i want tog et upn?
On a 8300HD, on the front panel, press EXIT and SELECT at the same time until 'diag' appears on the 8300HD panel. Release and press these keys again to tune channel 1999, the diagnostic menu, automatically.

may i know how to find the version number of my 8300 HD dvr box?
A sticker beneath the unit has information, but using the diagnostic page procedure just above lets you check the firmware version installed, which changes periodically with downloaded updates. -- John

eieio

11-09-05, 10:32 AM

on the 8300HD dvr, may i ask if anyone knows how to do a "fast forward 8 seconds"? that can be done on Tivo units just by entering some numbers.

has anyone tried this yet?

thx!

Goatweed

11-09-05, 11:04 AM

did anyone on Staten Island "lose" HBO On Demand last night? All the other OD channels were working, but 200 was just a black screen, and no info banner either. I rebooted the box thinking it might've been some kind of an upgrade issue or some glitch but it didn't come back.

AndyHDTV

11-09-05, 11:28 AM

Also how do I access Diag mode to tune in to 779 and is it something i have to do EVERY time i want tog et upn?

Upn in on 709, follow John Mason's instruction to enter diag mode

coneyparleg

11-09-05, 01:15 PM

Does anyone else only get a grey screen on SHO W, SHO Z, and SHO N?
I've called and TWC says that they will send a tech over as they show no problems on thier system.
Yes/No responses would be very helpful and much appreciated; thanks

chopsueychris

11-09-05, 01:20 PM

goatweed:in Queens, ALL my ondemands were "call to subscribe" last night when i am a subscriber :(

AndyHDTV

11-09-05, 02:37 PM

you better ask for some sort of rebate

broadwayblue

11-09-05, 03:08 PM

yeah, my on demands were out too.

Goatweed

11-09-05, 03:37 PM

If my On Demands continue to be out for a few more days, I'll be sure to ask for a rebate - they're usually VERY good with that.

scott_bernstein

11-09-05, 03:41 PM

eieio

11-09-05, 06:18 PM

pdroth

11-09-05, 07:55 PM

regarding how to allow the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR to be programmed with one button that can advance 8 seconds (or 10 seconds), please feel free to IM me or email me directly/privately. Much appreciated. I recall that the Tivo can be programmed to do that.

thanks in advance.

An 8-second advance is not possible with the remote. You would need to program a macro on a universal remote such as a Harmony to do this.

zEli173

11-09-05, 08:07 PM

Is there anyone getting the Nets game on 708 anywhere in the city? In Manhattan?

I've been told by a rep. that it is "blacked out" on 708.

mikeM1

11-09-05, 09:12 PM

I'm getting it right now here in Queens, on 708....altho EARLIER all i saw was a blank gray screen.

beatles6

11-09-05, 09:37 PM

Had to call CS here in Staten Island. The CSR had me on hold for 15 minutes while he checked with a supervisor who had to call someone. Suddenly the game appeared. Second time this has happened for the first 3 Net home games. Sounds like someone is asleep at the switch.

gregeas

11-10-05, 10:11 AM

Has anyone confirmed that SATA drives can be used with the latest 8300HD boxes?

Also, if I'm not using HDMI, is there any reason to switch my older 8300HD will one of the latest revs? I hate that line at 23rd Street...

broadwayblue

11-10-05, 11:46 AM

Has anyone confirmed that SATA drives can be used with the latest 8300HD boxes?

also, do you have to use a specially formatted SATA drive, like the maxtor quickview, or is there a way to use any SATA drive? i'm guessing a specific drive is required due to copyright issues.

chopsueychris

11-10-05, 01:31 PM

With going to the Diag 1999 channel mode, then going to 709 for UPN, does it show the channel IN HD? Or SD?

AndyHDTV

11-10-05, 02:42 PM

With going to the Diag 1999 channel mode, then going to 709 for UPN, does it show the channel IN HD? Or SD?

you don't have to go channel 1999, just Hold the Exit & Select bottons on the box until the words "Diag" shows on the box and then press 709 on your remote.

During the day it show upconverted SD video until prime time programming comes on.
try it tonight at 8

n2ogb

11-10-05, 03:52 PM

Anyone experienceing any problems with HBO HD?
The non-HD channel is fine.
I'm watching it now and the picture keeps freezing up.
Audio seems ok.
I've been having this problem with HBO HD for a while.
Usually later at night though.
At around 2AM, I was getting no picture at all, just a gray screen.
Now it's happening at primetime.
I've complained to TWC many times.
Techs have been out to my house and found no problems here.
I've spoken to CS managers, a tech manager, I don't know what else to do.
Obviously this is either a TWC headend issue or maybe the signal they're getting from HBO.
It's not my box, all other HD channels are fine.
Right now the movie Titanic is on, could some please check and see if it's frozen?
Thanks,
Ed

Every time I have a frozen screen on HBO HD, the movie was being broadcast in original aspect ratio instead of 16x9 that the majority of the movies are shown.
Titanic is being rebroadcast this afternoon and I have a frozen picture with bars on the top and bottom of my screen.
Ron

scott_bernstein

11-10-05, 06:06 PM

also, do you have to use a specially formatted SATA drive, like the maxtor quickview, or is there a way to use any SATA drive? i'm guessing a specific drive is required due to copyright issues.

The people who use the SATA drives with the SARA OS have reported that the 8300 handles the drive formatting itself when you plug the drive in for the first time. I'm sure this is due to the fact that the hard discs use a special formatting that's not supported by other operating systems.

sabt

11-10-05, 11:33 PM

Hi I'm new to TWC. What HD channels will I get if I just hook up the cable straight to the cable input on the back of my QAM/ATSC tuner? Basically I'm asking what HD channels are unencrypted since I don't know if I am getting a box from my new landlord yet although he told me he subscribes to digital cable, whatever that entails...

my unencrypted signal disappeared as of yesterday; i don't even think there's even a encrypted signal..it's just snow...

how can TWC do this since i live in a mulit-story bldg? very odd...

btw, POWERFUL, during baseball season, i was able to get the Yankee games in HD on the YES network...but only when the game was on...otherwise it was blank.

POWERFUL

11-11-05, 12:45 AM

Thanks I've settled in and both my LST-3410A and my 34XBR960 (both have a QAM tuner) pick up the local stations as well as Discovery HD but nothing on YES yet, Perhaps someone can tell me if Net games are unencrypted HD like the Yankee games that sabt has quoted above?

sabt

11-11-05, 08:37 AM

One caveat about the Yankee game: You would have to do a digital channel search when the game is actually being broadcasted so you'll have the channel in memory. Well that's how it was with my tv...if the game wasn't on and i did a channel search again, i'd lose the channel 93-1.

i think someone cut the cable line in my bldg....

mabrym

11-11-05, 03:01 PM

I'm getting a new computer. To record from DVR - do I need both a TV card and a firewire connection or just one of the two? Most of the computers I’ve looked at in my budget don’t have firewire.

realdeal1115

11-11-05, 08:15 PM

Could someone tell me which TWC service center has the 2.4's in stock? Thanks

Digiti

11-11-05, 10:15 PM

Mabrym,

You can get a firewire pci card at newegg.com for about $ 15.00. I don't know about capture cards. Perhaps someone here can help you with that.

orbeyonde

11-11-05, 11:51 PM

Could someone tell me which TWC service center has the 2.4's in stock? Thanks

I got my 2.4's delivered when they came to do a new install. They might be available at the Richmond Avenue center, I recommend that you call and ask first though.

By the way for those who care, Ive heard that we are going to be getting a new On Demand Channel, NY1 on demand. It should be available in 2 months or so.

AndyHDTV

11-12-05, 01:49 AM

By the way for those who care, Ive heard that we are going to be getting a new On Demand Channel, NY1 on demand. It should be available in 2 months or so.

More wasted bandwidth!
I can care less about more SD & SD-VOD channels.

Missing HD channels (For the new comers) :
FSN-HD
WB-HD
UPN-HD (without having to go into DIAG mode)
UNIVERSAL-HD
ESPN2-HD
STARZ-HD
CINEMAX-HD
TMC-HD
Movies On Demand-HD

POWERFUL

11-12-05, 05:54 AM

stoli412

11-12-05, 09:30 AM

Can someone explain why some digital channels have something on and others that don't. Take tonite for ex: I was surfing the digitals that I pick up with my QAM tuner in my 34XBR960 and I was able to get some movies that looked to be either PPV or premium channel content (like "Ocean's Twelve", or the "Life is worth losing" comedy show) in only 480i and they would cut off and go to no signal after they were done or maybe right in the middle of it. Could it be others in the building who ordered it and I'm getting it as well? To make sure you understand what I'm doing which is nothing more complicated then having the cable from the wall go right into the QAM input on my TV. Any ideas?That sounds like someone on your node was watching an On Demand movie. Generally when a VOD program is started, a QAM video channel is reserved at the node and the video is sent over that. People on the same node with QAM tuners can sometimes pick those up if they're not encrypted. If someone fast forwards, rewinds, or pauses the program you'll see that too (you won't see the labels though...just the video).

POWERFUL

11-12-05, 12:01 PM

andrewjnyc

11-12-05, 01:25 PM

Relative to all the discussion of the HDCP error message through receivers...am I likely to encounter it if I run the HDMI output from an 8300HD through a Gefen HDMI switch box? I'd like to upgrade to a 2.4-firmware 8300HD and have it share my TV's single HDMI input with my Denon 2910 DVD player, but I don't want to spend the $$$ on the Gefen switch if there's a chance I'll get nailed by the HDCP error.

ANGEL 35

11-12-05, 07:48 PM

Any one?Who has a 8300HD2.4 box and is using HDMI cable do you have a problem with HDCP.

JimCobain

11-13-05, 11:53 AM

Hi.

Not sure if this has been discussed, my apologies if it has.

I just picked up the 8300 DVR from the 23rd St TW Depot yesterday, November 12th. The Video is running into my TV via component and I wanted to run audio into my receiver via Optical. However I am not getting any audio, I have a friend who goes coaxial out and he says that works. Is optical out not enabled? I see a red light at the end of optical cable when it is plugged into the box is that a good sign?

Is it more likely that I have either a faulty cable or worse a faulty receiver. Anyone else have the same problem? Thanks for your help!

-Jim

realdeal1115

11-13-05, 12:29 PM

Anyone having poor reception on 705? Like the screen "flashes" every so often?

coneyparleg

11-13-05, 02:04 PM

JimCobain

11-13-05, 02:39 PM

Older receivers had this and other problems, bring it back and ask forone with 'firewire' check the rev. number 2.2 or 2.4 and you should be good to go.

Thanks for the response... I'll swap out the box... fingers crossed!

thespeakerbox

11-13-05, 03:20 PM

hsimms

11-13-05, 05:20 PM

I just got my samsung HLR5067w (is this native 720p?)hooked up the 8300 rev 2.2 from brooklyn. I had a horrendous time hoooking up HDMI, but after everything was up , it still didnt look as nice as i would have expected. My neighbor has a samsung 50x...with 720p but with DVi and his set looks much crisper than mine. I get a grainy look, almost laggy? look to my HD channels. Anyone know what the problem could be?

Speakerbox, have had the 5067W for a month. Great value, great picture. I am using component cables. Thinking about HDMI. I have heard a lot of grief.

Can you describe your horrendous time hooking up HDMI ?. We match in model and SciAtl box so your experience is quite relevant to me.

Have you set output formats on the second settings menu (settings, then yellow triangle) to 720p, remove 480i ?

Also, I'm looking for a code so that I can use the SciAtl remote to change over the air channels like 9 and 11. No one at the OTA forum or Passport forum seems to have an answer.

Other than HDMI and the SciAtl remote, I might be able to answer other model specific questions.

hsimms

11-13-05, 05:23 PM

Speakerbox -

5067 is native 720p. Downconverts 1080i

thespeakerbox

11-13-05, 09:18 PM

Ive had the SA8300 and am not too fond if it . It doesnt seem like it is worth the extra per month charge. It looks like TiVo has more features.

Whats the difference between the SA DVR and TIVO. Is it worth downgrading to the free TWC box, sacrificing HDMI.

AndyHDTV

11-13-05, 09:21 PM

I just noticed that all 46 "Music Choice" audio channels are coming through as 480p on my 8300. Now I know that a 480p signal takes up a little bit more bandwidth than a 480i signal, but I just don't know why those audio channels need it?

SRFast

11-13-05, 09:50 PM

Upn in on 709, follow John Mason's instruction to enter diag mode

AndyHDTV:
Does this mean we can get UPN HDTV on the 8300HD? Am I missing something?

TIA.....JL

POWERFUL

11-13-05, 10:46 PM

What channels (SD or HD) does Cable Card open up to the Time Warner customer compared to the cable box?

AndyHDTV

11-13-05, 11:04 PM

AndyHDTV:
Does this mean we can get UPN HDTV on the 8300HD? Am I missing something?

TIA.....JL

Yes you can, just enter diagnostic mode and hit 709 & your there.

AndyHDTV

11-13-05, 11:07 PM

What channels (SD or HD) does Cable Card open up to the Time Warner customer compared to the cable box?

I believe all but the on demand channels, not sure don't have cablecard.

SRFast

11-14-05, 08:53 AM

What channels (SD or HD) does Cable Card open up to the Time Warner customer compared to the cable box?

I've been using a TWC SA CableCARD since 8/04 and the current SA CC offering is pretty stable. The current CC spec being used in all US markets is "one way" - it receives the cable signal, but CANNOT transmit a "request" signal back to the cable system's headend for optional services. You receive all the SD and HD channels offered by your cable system/program package EXCEPT PPV, InDemand, etc. channels. No one is sure when the 2nd Gen - "two way" CCs will be introduced.

Hope this helps....JL

eieio

11-14-05, 03:02 PM

SRFast

11-14-05, 04:26 PM

Sorry to hear about your HDMI issues. Did you try using the original HDMI cable? This will help you determine if it is the 8300HD or the cables. I've been using the 8300HD connected to a Mits DLP via HDMI for 10 months with no problems. I only get the "An HDMI connection cannot be established" error message when the 8300 hasn't been powered on when the TV is. It goes away when the 8300 is powered on.

Hope this helps....JL

jcc

11-14-05, 05:17 PM

Thanks, yeah I've noticed that happening once or twice in the past. I was just curious considering if I knew when it was on I go old fashioned way and leave a tape in the D-VHS VCR for when one pops up in the beginning of a movie all I've to do is hit record and wait till it's done to have a full movie for my own viewing pleasure, I guess just like all things in life timing is everything...

That usually happens when you reset your TV and your tuner or TW doesn't realize that you're not suppose to receive it. It will disappear and become scrambled essentially.

BTW, does anyone have the complete ATSC tuner line-up for TW-HD?

This is what I have so far, anything missing?

(Free)
1-4 NBC (use to be 104-1)
1-5 Fox (use to be 103-2)
1-9 UPN?
87-1 Discovery
104-2 ABC
105-1 CBS
105-2 PBS
105-3 PBS Kids

(Pay)
93-2 INHD2
93-1 INHD
87-2 TNT
86-3 ESPN
86-2 HD Net
86-1 HD Net

Where is WNJN and WB???

jcc

11-14-05, 05:23 PM

What kind of HDMI switch do you guys use when you only have one HDMI input for your TV?

Anyone know of one that's cheap and easy to use?

Paul Chiu

11-14-05, 06:19 PM

How are you getting these channels in HD? A TWC cable box, the actual coaxial, or OTA? Are you using a D-VHS to record this via firewire?

That usually happens when you reset your TV and your tuner or TW doesn't realize that you're not suppose to receive it. It will disappear and become scrambled essentially.

BTW, does anyone have the complete ATSC tuner line-up for TW-HD?

This is what I have so far, anything missing?

(Free)
1-4 NBC (use to be 104-1)
1-5 Fox (use to be 103-2)
1-9 UPN?
87-1 Discovery
104-2 ABC
105-1 CBS
105-2 PBS
105-3 PBS Kids

(Pay)
93-2 INHD2
93-1 INHD
87-2 TNT
86-3 ESPN
86-2 HD Net
86-1 HD Net

Where is WNJN and WB???

jcc

11-14-05, 08:21 PM

I can't receive the pay one of course. For a little while last year it was all turned on but that was before the special $9 plan that they offer now for HD.

I have the cable directly hooked up to my Panny Plasma that has a HD tuner built in. No cable box needed. I pay $12 a month.

I noticed that the digital 16x9 channels like the PBS-Kids have a picture that's split screened. Anyone else have this problem with direct connect?

eieio

11-15-05, 12:37 AM

AndyHDTV

11-15-05, 01:15 AM

Manhattan time warner customer here...

why is it that the aspect ratios are all correct in all the high def channels but on TNT HD, most of the time, it is way stretched wide but on every other channel, there's never an issue?

thanks!

The times that you see it stretched is when they are showing an upconverted 4x3 program.
Even though the info bar might have the "HDTV" logo.
It's not true HD.

They stretch their commercials too.

Digiti

11-15-05, 08:07 AM

Did anyone notice that "Two and a Half Men" was extremely dark last night and that Dolby Digital was not available? All other programing was normal.

timewaster

11-15-05, 09:28 AM

anyone get their bill this month?
I got mine yesterday and my bill is up another 5 bucks.
Did they just raised the rates?

bigd86

11-15-05, 09:42 AM

anyone get their bill this month?
I got mine yesterday and my bill is up another 5 bucks.
Did they just raised the rates?

Sort of-I called immediately (I actually pay attention to my cable bill-I don't tust them very much!) and I was told that there was a special promotion that was being given to me (and apparently to you, too!) but it expired and now the rates are back to normal!!

Isn't that great! They were giving us a discount! But, sadly, it has ended! Have a nice day!!

Boy, can TWCNY BITE ME!!!

SRFast

11-15-05, 10:15 AM

Where is WNJN and WB???

TWC-NY doesn't carry WNJN-HD or WB-HD on their cable system.

Hope this helps...JL

scott_bernstein

11-15-05, 10:25 AM

More of the last thing we needed -- crappy free VOD channels wasting bandwidth....

When you're in DIAG mode, you can now hit 4 or 5 free VOD channels right above the current set of free VODs -- National Geographic on-demand, another animation on-demand, and I forget what the others were.

The only one that sort of intrigued me (but didn't have any content yet) was "Concerts on demand"....

DNINE

11-15-05, 10:32 AM

Does anyone know of a helpful supervisor at TWNYC someone who can deal with issues in a fair way. I have billing problems every month now I want to add broadband and up my service I already have a bill thats $150 a month (4 boxes) I am so sick of there crap I really wish I had another option. any help would be appreciated

chopsueychris

11-15-05, 01:44 PM

anyone get their bill this month?
I got mine yesterday and my bill is up another 5 bucks.
Did they just raised the rates?
hd is 15 a month for the package. hbo,sho,the ota channels minus wb and upn, the rep didnt have an answer why we dont get the channels "it just isnt on my channel guide listing" as she said... and then she said "i dont have an answer for you why we dont carry those over the air channels.,..."

bastards.

but yeah i was getting th ehd programming for a week, apparently free, when i bought my xs955 2 weeks ago, then it went blank Saturday night, and then they said it was a 15 dollar a month charge for the hd channels. I bitched saying when i exchanged the boxes no one told me this was the case and it was bs since my bill is over 165 bucks a monthw ith all the movie channels, 4 boxes, and broadband...

eieio

11-15-05, 02:25 PM

8300 HD DVR, manhattan here, few problems for a week, now, when swapping from one HDMI cable to another cable, got HDCP error :(

got my new 60xbr1 2 weeks ago, so i trekked to 23rd Street and Park Avenue to swap my HD cable box to the 8300HD DVR. i followed the directions scrupulously and, voila, everything worked, handshake and all, the only issues were frozen screens every so often, which got better after i unplugged and plugged it back in.

today, i took out the HDMI cable and swapped for a new HDMI cable that i intend to keep, and everything went wrong. immediately, when turning the tv back on and the box back on, i got the error message: your tv does not support HDCP, please use component cables instead!! i tried rebooting (unplugging and replugging it back in) to no avail, several times. i tried turning off the tv as well thinking that the tv sends a "turn on" signal via HDMI to the 8300, so maybe starting everything "from the totally off" position might help, no good either.

anyone with experience on this? is the only solution to trek up to Time Warner on 23rd Street again and exchange my 8300 for another unit?

very frustrated here!

i just figured that if my 8300 and 60xbr1 BOTH handle HDMI, i really should take advantage of it since most say that it is an improvement in image quality over component cables. but now, all this frustration and troubles. on the other hand, since i still get occasional frozen screens, like every couple of hours, and occasional wild flicker that seemingly doesn't stop for several minutes (!), maybe exchanging the 8300 for another unit IS the right thing to do anyways!

any advice/shared experiences would be most appreciated! you can also email me directly.

thanks in advance!

Today, exchanged my 8300 box for another one at Time Warner. Got home, carefully followed the instructions (don't plug it in yet, first connect everything...etc) and then powered on. Same HDCP error problem!

i immediately went to Best Buy to get the same, first HDMI cable again to see if it works. Got home, changed the cables and it works!! So, the HDMI from Best Buy (a run of the mill AR brand HDMI cable) works, and the lower priced HDMI cable from a cable specialist in the midwest does not.

Question: the cable seller in the midwest has offered to send me another HDMI cable from another manufacturer to see if this item would work. (all HDMI cables are made in asia by big machines) i am beginning to wonder if i should just "leave good enough alone"!! if it's working now, should i just leave everything alone? the AR cable from Best Buy is around $88, the cable imported by the midwestern cable seller is around $40. while the $40 is not make or break, i originally figured that why "waste" money when perfectly competent cables from quality suppliers work fine (meaning: why buy Monster or AR if a cable seller in the midwest uses Broadcast-quality components to make cables every bit as good but simply doesn't have the logo/advertising that Monster or AR or another bigger name cable company has?).

Now, i'm a bit worried about this. Since everything is working now, should i just leave the $88 AR HDMI cable in my system? Or, should I take the midwestern cable seller up on his offer and try out his "other manufacter's HDMI cable" and see if this would work?

thank you in advance for your advice/comments!

pdroth

11-15-05, 03:38 PM

Or, should I take the midwestern cable seller up on his offer and try out his "other manufacter's HDMI cable" and see if this would work?

I bought my HDMI on eBay for about 15 bucks if I remember correctly and it has worked flawlessly for me with my Sony XBR960. I have NEVER gotten an HDCP error with my 1st generation 8300HD.

I say get an exchange from your seller and return the $88 special if it works for you.

chopsueychris

11-15-05, 04:10 PM

I bought my HDMI on eBay for about 15 bucks if I remember correctly and it has worked flawlessly for me with my Sony XBR960. I have NEVER gotten an HDCP error with my 1st generation 8300HD.

I say get an exchange from your seller and return the $88 special if it works for you.
same here on my xs955 although icant get my laptop to work with the hdmi cable to the tv :(

jcc

11-15-05, 04:12 PM

TWC-NY doesn't carry WNJN-HD or WB-HD on their cable system.

Hope this helps...JL

WNJN IS available in 16x9 format according to TWNYC's web site. It's not in HD though...but what channel is it on that's 16x9? without a cable box...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nyandnj/products/cable/hdtv.html

jcc

11-15-05, 04:14 PM

Is TNT-HD still a pay channel? It's nhot suppose to be according to their web site...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nyandnj/products/cable/hdtv.html

Direct hook-up people are suppose to be able to get regular TNT for free why not TNT-HD?

chopsueychris

11-15-05, 04:15 PM

wnjn is the channel after espn hd- so i think its 726 or 750 for some reason

do we have any other options for cable aside from twc in ny? im seriously sick of their pay increases

hsimms

11-15-05, 04:23 PM

Where is WNJN and WB???

We are getting the main WNJN on 750 in Lower Manhattan

For their 2 additional multicasts, the amplified Terk indoor antenna works great here by the Hudson across from Jersey City. Montclair is about 40 miles away.

How happy am I that I finally got HDMI working today ? Who likes to waste a Franklin and more on a cable ?

The magic was in coldbooting the STB and firing up the TV first then the STB. You'd thing TWCNYC tech might have suggested that - uh uh. They cringe at the mention of HDMI and start the "component cable" mantra.

I have to say that SD is improved. HD about the same which is just fine. My DLP is native 720p so I output 480p and 720p from the STB.

I was about ready to go firewire from the STB to TV. My Samsung TV supports firewire under what they call D-Net. Explicitly supports firewire from STB to Samsung DLP.

Query: Any differences between HDMI connect and Firewire connect ? Apparently, Firewire through D-Net has a copy protection scheme similar to HDMI.

hsimms

11-15-05, 04:26 PM

do we have any other options for cable aside from twc in ny? im seriously sick of their pay increases

RCN does some buildings in Manhattan and Queens. Go to their web site and check your address. Tends to be newer buildings only.

http://www.rcn.com/

DNINE

11-15-05, 04:33 PM

Has anyone tried satellite in NYC, are there more problems with pq with Sattlite.
I can't get RCN so it's TW, or????

hsimms

11-15-05, 04:47 PM

Has anyone tried satellite in NYC, are there more problems with pq with Sattlite.
I can't get RCN so it's TW, or????

I have a friend with satellite in Brooklyn who says HD is worse from satellite - compression - than using OTA for the same HD channels.

I can't tell the difference between HD-Cable and HD-OTA.

ANGEL 35

11-15-05, 04:55 PM

jcc

11-15-05, 04:59 PM

I don't have all the channels you guys have but I have all the ones that's necessary. Mainly, all the free tier HD channels. I find that I could hardly watch everything that's on considering that I'm splitting my time between Internet, Netflix, Playstaion..etc.

I just spoke to a TW rep that told me that it was impossible for me to receive the HD channels that I'm getting by paying just $12. Apparently I'm hallucinating! These people are really dumb. She had the gull to argue with me over the phone about it.

Needless to say, I couldn't get a answer out of her as to what channels TNT-HD and WNJN-16x9 are mapped to. It's channels 710 and 750 on the cable box but what are their real channels on the ATSC/QAM tuner?

TNT-HD use to be on 87-2 but I'm blanking out on that channel. Did they change it or is it now in the pay tier?

hsimms

11-15-05, 05:05 PM

Angel 35

8300HD to TV only. No problems yet

SRFast

11-15-05, 05:21 PM

WNJN IS available in 16x9 format according to TWNYC's web site. It's not in HD though...but what channel is it on that's 16x9? without a cable box...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nyandnj/products/cable/hdtv.html

I live in northeast Queens and I can get WNJN-HD OTA on channel 50.5. It is broadcasted in 480p during the day, but goes to 720/1080 during "prime time" hours. I get WB-HD on 11.1.

Hope this helps....JL

scott_bernstein

11-15-05, 05:35 PM

WNJN IS available in 16x9 format according to TWNYC's web site. It's not in HD though...but what channel is it on that's 16x9? without a cable box...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nyandnj/products/cable/hdtv.html

Time Warner is incorrect. This is not a 16x9 channel -- it's a regular 4x3, SD (digital) channel.

pdroth

11-15-05, 06:23 PM

TNT-HD use to be on 87-2 but I'm blanking out on that channel. Did they change it or is it now in the pay tier?

TNT-HD on 87.2 became an encrypted channel a few months back. Won't come in using a QAM tuner anymore.

I think they started encrypting since TNT is not on the "Basic" tier.

POWERFUL

11-15-05, 09:27 PM

I'm tuned to 93-1,2,3 and I get nothing, aren't the Home Net games broadcasted in HD unencrypted on those channels?

jcc

11-15-05, 10:06 PM

TNT-HD on 87.2 became an encrypted channel a few months back. Won't come in using a QAM tuner anymore.

I think they started encrypting since TNT is not on the "Basic" tier.

Well, TNT suppose to be free even on Basic.

jcc

11-15-05, 10:07 PM

I'm tuned to 93-1,2,3 and I get nothing, aren't the Home Net games broadcasted in HD unencrypted on those channels?

INHD channels have been in the pay tier for over a year.

jcc

11-15-05, 10:09 PM

I live in northeast Queens and I can get WNJN-HD OTA on channel 50.5. It is broadcasted in 480p during the day, but goes to 720/1080 during "prime time" hours. I get WB-HD on 11.1.

Hope this helps....JL

Can you get it with the cable connected directly to your tuner?

broadwayblue

11-15-05, 11:32 PM

any chance TWC would let me subscribe to just the 700's, HBO and Showtime...and my 8300HD? they can keep the rest as far as i'm concerned. i've got 500 channels i never watch.

pdroth

11-16-05, 05:18 AM

any chance TWC would let me subscribe to just the 700's, HBO and Showtime...and my 8300HD? they can keep the rest as far as i'm concerned. i've got 500 channels i never watch.

If they do, let us know what the cost is. I'm ready to dump the rest as well.

pdroth

11-16-05, 05:25 AM

Well, TNT suppose to be free even on Basic.

TNT is part of the 'Standard' tier not the Basic according to TWC website.

jcc

11-16-05, 09:23 AM

TNT is part of the 'Standard' tier not the Basic according to TWC website.

I was always able to get TNT buy tuning to channel 3 on my tuner. It's been that way for years...until about a month ago when TW started to chop soome of these channels in half.

What I mean is that channels that are not scrambled now have what looks like split screen when viewed with your TV's tuner.

jcc

11-16-05, 09:27 AM

any chance TWC would let me subscribe to just the 700's, HBO and Showtime...and my 8300HD? they can keep the rest as far as i'm concerned. i've got 500 channels i never watch.

I can understand why you would want all of the HD channels but why would you need HBO and Showtime? You can subscribe to Netflix and have more options at the same price.

If that's true, it means that you're paying about $80 a month for just 6 HD pay tier channels. Does that sound reasonable to you?

ANGEL 35

11-16-05, 10:18 AM

We are getting the main WNJN on 750 in Lower Manhattan

For their 2 additional multicasts, the amplified Terk indoor antenna works great here by the Hudson across from Jersey City. Montclair is about 40 miles away.

How happy am I that I finally got HDMI working today ? Who likes to waste a Franklin and more on a cable ?

The magic was in coldbooting the STB and firing up the TV first then the STB. You'd thing TWCNYC tech might have suggested that - uh uh. They cringe at the mention of HDMI and start the "component cable" mantra.

I have to say that SD is improved. HD about the same which is just fine. My DLP is native 720p so I output 480p and 720p from the STB.

I was about ready to go firewire from the STB to TV. My Samsung TV supports firewire under what they call D-Net. Explicitly supports firewire from STB to Samsung DLP.

Query: Any differences between HDMI connect and Firewire connect ? Apparently, Firewire through D-Net has a copy protection scheme similar to HDMI. How do you coldboot the STB?? :confused: :confused:

hsimms

11-16-05, 11:37 AM

How do you coldboot the STB?? :confused: :confused:

Power down the STB, pull the plug, count to 30, plug it back in. In contrast with warm boot which is holding in the power button til it cycles.

eieio

11-16-05, 01:31 PM

last night, i discovered there were several channels that are not premium channels but they only showed a "subscription channel, call Time Warner to subscribe" screen via my 8300 box. I have an extensive list of channels with Time Warner (incl the 5 extra HD channels) so I was surprised.

this morning, i called time warner. the customer service person (not friendly) asked me to turn on my Digital Box in another room (standard definition box) and it allowed me, as expected, to view those channels. i then went to my new high def tv and 8300 box and it still does NOT alow me to view those channels.

She then "sent a signal" right there and then and "zapped" my 8300 WHILE MY TV WAS ON and the channels came through.

QUESTION: May I ask you knowledgeable folks here if that "zapping" signal might cause damage to my brand new 60xbr1? i was worried that it might have. it sounded like some type of a power surge through the coax! i have all sorts of power protection for my AC line but none for my coax.

would it be wise to get some coax power surge protection? would that compromise the signal quality? what brands make top notch protection devices for coax "protection"? where to find/research/buy those brands? websites please?

many thanks in advance. sorry for a barrage of questions ;) but i'm concerned for my brand new (2 week old) tv.

patrickpiteo

11-16-05, 01:47 PM

hsimms

11-16-05, 02:01 PM

scott_bernstein

11-16-05, 02:36 PM

All they do is refresh the cable Tv signal to your 8300 box. It does not Zap or harm your TV. Enjioy the HD and don't worry TWC will not blow up your TV..
That is the infamous "new box" state that seemingly everyone posts about ("WOW! I just got a new box and I'm getting all of these channels that I don't subscribe to!") that will sometimes result in you getting lots of pay channels that you don't subscribe to for a day or 2 (until the box automatically refreshes itself on some sort of schedule). The flip side of this is that you will sometimes have some small number of channels blacked out that you should be getting for free.

TWC's "zapping" of the box simply sends it a signal that causes it to refresh itself from the head-end right at that moment instead of waiting for its next scheduled refresh (24-48 hours later).

Scott

DNINE

11-16-05, 04:22 PM

On a Sony 32 HS420 does it matter which box I get? The Pio or SA, is there anything special I need to know or do?

POWERFUL

11-16-05, 05:38 PM

INHD channels have been in the pay tier for over a year.
That wasn't what I'm talking about, it's YESHD that I'm talking about, anybody know if that is unencrypted and if so what digital channel is it? Someone said on this board that it was 93.1 but I'm beginning to think otherwise, I guess I'm going to have to talk to the landlord about Cable Card, and any pointers on convincing him would be helpful considering he not all that technically minded. For those interested I'm using an SD cable box he is letting me use and I really try not to watch with it all that much.

jcc

11-16-05, 05:53 PM

93-1 and 93-2 are INHD channels. I don't know if that's different from the 93.1 and 93.2 that you're referring to?

chopsueychris

11-16-05, 06:18 PM

stupid gnub question but you all refer to 11.1, 92.2, and all these ".x" channels.

How does that vary from my say 704 nbc hd, and 711 etc etc etc?

broadwayblue

11-16-05, 07:05 PM

I can understand why you would want all of the HD channels but why would you need HBO and Showtime? You can subscribe to Netflix and have more options at the same price.

If that's true, it means that you're paying about $80 a month for just 6 HD pay tier channels. Does that sound reasonable to you?

yeah, i really only need the 700's (including HBO and Showtime.) i don't need the multi channel HBO's.

pdroth

11-16-05, 07:35 PM

That wasn't what I'm talking about, it's YESHD that I'm talking about, anybody know if that is unencrypted and if so what digital channel is it? Someone said on this board that it was 93.1 but I'm beginning to think otherwise, I guess I'm going to have to talk to the landlord about Cable Card, and any pointers on convincing him would be helpful considering he not all that technically minded. For those interested I'm using an SD cable box he is letting me use and I really try not to watch with it all that much.

YES HD is on 93.3 only when there is a game on. When there is no programming, there is no signal. Last I checked (end of baseball season), it wasn't an encrypted channel.

hsimms

11-16-05, 07:40 PM

stupid gnub question but you all refer to 11.1, 92.2, and all these ".x" channels.

How does that vary from my say 704 nbc hd, and 711 etc etc etc?

Each digital channel is capable of over the air multicast

So 11.1 would be tha main WPIX channel, with 11.2 and 11.3 the secondary channels. We're getting the 13.2 and 13.3 on 714 and 715, 4.2 on 731 and 7.2 on 730.

I believe there is a limitation in that each grouping can put out just one HD at a time.

pdroth

11-16-05, 07:40 PM

stupid gnub question but you all refer to 11.1, 92.2, and all these ".x" channels.

How does that vary from my say 704 nbc hd, and 711 etc etc etc?

Welcome to the digital age! Any channel with an .x is a digital channel.

If you don't have a built-in HD tuner on your TV then this will mean nothing to you. Having a built-in tuner allows us to tune in directly to the HD channels being broadcast over the cable line without using a box. The caveat is knowing where to "look" for the channel. My tv takes about 1 hour to do an auto-program search so knowing that 704 is 1.4 saves tons of time.

eieio

11-16-05, 11:35 PM

Hi there!

i'm on my second 8300 box (the first one i had for 2 weeks) and this one started skipping (live tv skips/flickers so you can't really watch it, every second it flashes blank black screen for a split second and then the next split second, the show). i've only had this one for around 2 days.

i wonder what i should do, go exchange for a 3rd unit??

this 2nd unit came from a new box: they haven't even removed the 8300 from the original cardboard box yet. in fact, they gave the 8300 to me WITH the box.

each time the unit skips and flashes blank/black screens intermittently like that, the only way to get rid of it is to unplug it, wait for a minute, and plug it back in. even turning it on and off won't work.

any advice, please? are there many others with this issue?

PS: both 8300 units came from the 23rd Street Manhattan time warner location.

thanks in advance for your advice/comments.

orbeyonde

11-17-05, 01:09 AM

hsimms

11-17-05, 01:34 AM

Veeballs

11-17-05, 03:55 AM

Hello everyone. I was wondering if it is possible to view Video on Demand channels in widescreen or HD? Such as HBO and Showtime. Thanks

jin kim

11-17-05, 09:02 AM

Hello everyone. I was wondering if it is possible to view Video on Demand channels in widescreen or HD? Such as HBO and Showtime. Thanks

No.

bigd86

11-17-05, 09:50 AM

i'm on my second 8300 box (the first one i had for 2 weeks) and this one started skipping (live tv skips/flickers so you can't really watch it, every second it flashes blank black screen for a split second and then the next split second, the show).

I had (have) a similar problem with my 8300HD (a version 1.2 by the way) since I got it-except not as extreme. When I first connected it to my Aquos, I connected both the component and HDMI (to DVI to maintain 5.1). My set would flicker to black once, maybe twice a day-not enough of a problem for me to take the time to trudge down to 23rd st to replace it. Anyway, I never used the HDMI to DVI input (because of some known image shift problem endemic to the particular Aquos I had) so I finally just disconnected it, just to use the component. Now-at this time I had the formats set to 1080i 720p and 480p. When I turned the box back on, the removing of the cable in and of itself had the box reset itself to 1080i only! I reset the box to 1080i 720p and 480p-and the flicker problem has almost entirely disappeared (now-maybe once a month if that often) I have thus theorized: this type of problem is related to the box every once and a while (or, in your case, more often then that) losing format synch for a split second and then picking it up again. I did not do this experiment, but you might-try setting the box to ONE format (720p or 1080i) and see if there is any improvement (and use component cables only). It is possible that even with only one output format the box internally may still have issues and blink out, but I doubt it, and anyway, this advise can't hurt!!!
Of course, I could always be wrong, but then again, maybe not!!

Royevans

11-17-05, 11:41 AM

ANGEL 35

11-17-05, 01:25 PM

This did not work when I tried it...I had to go HDMI directly to the TV and optical audio out to the receiver (Panasonic)

IT did not work for me,I did what you did.HDMI to tv. Works :cool:

ANGEL 35

11-17-05, 01:44 PM

Well, TNT suppose to be free even on Basic.

TNT is on 710 and it is free.IM on it now. Not all of it is HD. :cool:

orbeyonde

11-17-05, 09:23 PM

IT did not work for me,I did what you did.HDMI to tv. Works :cool:

Was your receiver HDCP compliant?

realdeal1115

11-17-05, 10:03 PM

Anyone know if Howard Stern's In-Demand channel is available yet on TWC in Queens? What channel? I can't locate it anywhere.

Thanks

QMAN71

11-17-05, 10:11 PM

Anyone know if Howard Stern's In-Demand channel is available yet on TWC in Queens? What channel? I can't locate it anywhere.

Thanks
Did a search and found it on ch. 329 (staten island)

realdeal1115

11-17-05, 10:13 PM

Did a search and found it on ch. 329 (staten island)

Got it! Awesome, thanks.

sabt

11-17-05, 10:13 PM

That wasn't what I'm talking about, it's YESHD that I'm talking about, anybody know if that is unencrypted and if so what digital channel is it? Someone said on this board that it was 93.1 but I'm beginning to think otherwise, I guess I'm going to have to talk to the landlord about Cable Card, and any pointers on convincing him would be helpful considering he not all that technically minded. For those interested I'm using an SD cable box he is letting me use and I really try not to watch with it all that much.
I had wrote that YES is on 93.1
I'm in queens and that's what the yankee games were on. But like i had previously, you can only get it when the game is broadcasted. If you don't have the channel in your memory already, searching it for it now will do no good. You have to wait for the game to be on...that's next year!!!

btw: the cable in my bldg (or just my apt??) is still out and no more QAM HD for me....only OTA HD...damn it!!!!

POWERFUL

11-17-05, 10:36 PM

So aren't Nets home games on YESHD? Since they showed Yankee games on YESHD in the clear, Why wouldn't the Nets be shown in the clear? That's my question. I did a scan when the Net home game was on Saturday, got the channel saved in memory, but I didn't get a picture.

AndyHDTV

11-17-05, 10:38 PM

Anyone know if Howard Stern's In-Demand channel is available yet on TWC in Queens? What channel? I can't locate it anywhere.

Thanks

Howard Stern's On-Demand is now on Channel 329

AndyHDTV

11-17-05, 10:45 PM

pdroth

11-17-05, 11:17 PM

[QUOTE=sabt]I had wrote that YES is on 93.1
I'm in queens and that's what the yankee games were on. [QUOTE]

I'm in Queens and have had YES HD saved as 93.3. Try that channel next time the game is on.

I have never received any programming on 93.1 or .2

SRFast

11-18-05, 09:05 AM

This is a little off topic, but relevant to TWC-NY. I wonder if this acquisition will bring more features to the STBs and CCs.

Offer of $6.9 Billion Is Likely As Set-Top Box Demand Spurs Market Position Race
A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS ROUNDUP
November 18, 2005 8:14 a.m.

Cisco Systems Inc. agreed to purchase cable-television-technology concern Scientific-Atlanta Inc., paying $43 per share in a cash deal valued at about $6.9 billion that comes as equipment makers respond to evaporating lines between the Internet, television and telephone industries.

Long a cornerstone of big corporate and government data networks, Cisco is now pushing its products directly to consumers. It is doing that just as the nation's big telephone companies begin rolling out fiber-optic systems to send television to homes using Internet technology.

The deal, announced Friday, offers Scientific-Atlanta stockholders a 4% premium over where the shares traded Thursday. The price represents a premium of about 20% since rumors about a potential sale first surfaced in early November. Cisco said the net cost of the purchase would be $5.3 billion when taking into account Scientific-Atlanta's existing cash balance.

The transaction highlights the cash that is sitting on corporate balance sheets. Throughout the 1990s, Cisco used its high-priced stock to buy a host of companies. To fund the Scientific-Atlanta purchase -- its second largest ever -- Cisco would pull from its cash hoard of $13.5 billion. Scientific-Atlanta, which was founded in 1951 by a group of engineers from the Georgia Institute of Technology, has a cash pile of $1.55 billion, or more than $10 per share.

Cisco has made no bones about its ambitions to be the leading equipment supplier as the Internet evolves to take over functions that were long carried out by separate entertainment, voice and data networks. But in doing so, it has to penetrate an area that has been dominated by a duopoly of Motorola Inc. and Scientific-Atlanta.

Set-top boxes play a key role in determining what features can be offered on the TV screen. Scientific-Atlanta has about 40% of the U.S. set-top box market, or roughly 56 million cable devices in U.S. households. Its largest customer is Time Warner Inc.'s cable division.

Demand for set-top boxes is expected to intensify as competition heats up in the TV distribution business and technology makes possible a wide array of advanced TV features. Roughly 300 million analog televisions will need some form of converter to work with the digital broadcast signals required by the government by 2009. At the same time, telephone companies, like SBC Communications Inc. and Verizon Communications Inc., are racing to provide television service, opening a new market for set-top boxes.

Demand also is increasing for set-top boxes that include digital video recorders, which record and collate hundreds of hours of shows. Satellite TV operators, cable companies and phone companies are preparing to introduce still more features -- such as a huge library of on-demand programming -- to hold on to customers.

Other consumer electronics makers have had limited success in breaking into the business. That is because most cable systems have layered on networking, encryption gear and set-top boxes from the two dominant companies. For set-top boxes to work they have to be able to communicate with this other gear.

Wall Street Journal reporters Dennis K. Berman, Peter Grant and Don Clark contributed to this article.

Regards....JL

scott_bernstein

11-18-05, 01:28 PM

1015 - Anime Network On Demand
1016 - National Geographic On Demand
1017 - Oxygen On Demand
1018 - Concert On Demand (In Diagnostic Mode) no programming
1112 - Time out NY On Demand

for a cable company that claims to have bandwidth issues, they're sure adding alot of SD programming.

...except I believe that these VOD channels take no bandwidth unless somebody is actually watching them! So they can continue to add these channels into infinity and since each box can only ever be watching one at a time it requires no extra bandwidth whatsoever when you're not watching VOD. And when your are watching them, they only require one VOD slot (which every DTV box already has access to) for as many VOD channels as you can possibly receive.

Now, if only these channels had any worthwhile content on them....Or (heaven forbid) High Definition content it might be interesting.

Note that I also noticed a few new SD channels on our system:

One was right next to the Howard Stern PPV channel (326) and it was called QTV. No idea what it's supposed to be, but said it was "subscription only".

And the other was on channel 90 (called "TV One") -- it had oddball old programming like Showtime At The Apollo, Boston Public, 227, Good Times, Martin...again, no idea what it's supposed to be....

Scott

hsimms

11-18-05, 03:47 PM

Time Warner is incorrect. This is not a 16x9 channel -- it's a regular 4x3, SD (digital) channel.

The main WNJN channel, which we get on 750, never casts in HD. WNJN's HD casts are on OTA 50.5 8pm - midnight. Last night saw Wallflowers in concert on Soundstage.

General schedule here:

http://www.njn.net/digital/schedule.html

Would be nice if TWC provided this one.

AndyHDTV

11-18-05, 06:40 PM

And the other was on channel 90 (called "TV One")

also on channel 91 & 92 RNN & RNN2

eliotw

11-19-05, 10:14 AM

is anyone here running their 8300hd via HDMI through a receiver and then on to the tv. Im looking to upgrade to a receiver that does HDMI switching but Im not sure if it is worth the investment if there will be handshake issues between the reciever and the 8300HD.

This is an excellent question. I've got the new JVC 702b receiver that does HDMI switching. The 8300HD (rev 1.2?) HDMI works fine directly to my Samsung DLP, but fails with HDCP error when switched through the JVC 702b.

Q: Has anyone with the newer revs (2.4) of the 8300HD had success or failure with HDMI switching and the 8300HD.?

Q: Is the rev number that's discussed here what's printed as "rev" on the bottom label or is it some sort of software revision ?

Thanks,
Eliot

eliotw

11-19-05, 10:16 AM

This did not work when I tried it...I had to go HDMI directly to the TV and optical audio out to the receiver (Panasonic)

Royevans:

Do you know the rev of you 8300HD that the HDMI switching failed with ? Is it 2.4 or older ?

Thanks,
Eliot

LisaM

11-19-05, 12:12 PM

hsimms

11-19-05, 06:58 PM

I am buying an HD set for my bedroom, where I currently have a regular digital cable box. Can I take this box to 23rd Street and swap it for one of the new 8300HDs with firewire or do I have to arrange for an installation call? I have 3 other HD boxes in my house but this will be an upgrade. If I do need an installation call, what are the chances that the tech will bring one of the firewire boxes even if I specify it over the phone?

Since it is an upgrade you ought to call and get an order number. If it was a swap of the same model, you could walk in. I've done both over the past five weeks. By going to 23rd Street, you have a greater chance of getting the latest equipment, especially if you ask for it.

ANGEL 35

11-19-05, 07:06 PM

Was your receiver HDCP compliant?
YES DENON-4806 34XBR-960 :)

SRFast

11-19-05, 10:10 PM

I am buying an HD set for my bedroom, where I currently have a regular digital cable box. Can I take this box to 23rd Street and swap it for one of the new 8300HDs with firewire or do I have to arrange for an installation call? I have 3 other HD boxes in my house but this will be an upgrade. If I do need an installation call, what are the chances that the tech will bring one of the firewire boxes even if I specify it over the phone?

Because you already have digital servie, I believe you can just take the current STB and swap it. I took my digital SA 8000 DVR and swapped it for the HD version (8200?) back in January. BTW, are you going to use firewire? I don't know if it is enabled on the TWC 8300HD.

Hope this helps...JL

orbeyonde

11-20-05, 01:12 AM

This is an excellent question. I've got the new JVC 702b receiver that does HDMI switching. The 8300HD (rev 1.2?) HDMI works fine directly to my Samsung DLP, but fails with HDCP error when switched through the JVC 702b.

Q: Has anyone with the newer revs (2.4) of the 8300HD had success or failure with HDMI switching and the 8300HD.?

Q: Is the rev number that's discussed here what's printed as "rev" on the bottom label or is it some sort of software revision ?

Thanks,
Eliot

Yes the number on the bottom of the box is the revision number you see quoted here. I have the 2.4 rev, and I would like the convenience of only having to run 1 line to my plasma, but I am not going to spend another 1k on a reciever until I find out if anyone here has had any success at all with 8300HD HDMI swithing.

Please tell me that someone has been able to make this work.

POWERFUL

11-20-05, 04:10 AM

What about taking a cable box and swapping it for Cable Card? This complex I'm in also has digital cable service.

AndyHDTV

11-20-05, 04:51 AM

check out this convenient way to pay your bill that viewers upstate have access to.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/albany/products/cable/etv/billpayment.html

AndyHDTV

11-20-05, 05:32 AM

SRFast

11-20-05, 09:57 AM

What about taking a cable box and swapping it for Cable Card? This complex I'm in also has digital cable service.

In most markets, CableCARD installation requires a techinican visit. The cable service provider considers this a special "installation" and requires field techs to be on site to interface with their IT/Networking department to complete the installation. From my experience, most initial CC installs are performed by supervisor level techs. Replacement CCs also requires a tech visit.

Hope this helps...JL

LisaM

11-20-05, 12:33 PM

We did a cable card install for my parents' set in South Jersey with Comcast. The first visit took over 2 hours as the tech had to try 3 different cable cards before one would work perfectly. That card failed two weeks later and another visit was required. The PQ is fabulous but getting the cable card to work was a real pain. If you schedule an install, try to make sure that the tech brings several cards since one may not work properly.

broadwayblue

11-20-05, 12:46 PM

check out this convenient way to pay your bill that viewers upstate have access to.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/albany/products/cable/etv/billpayment.html

i just have them bill my CC each month automatically. they still send a paper invoice for me to review/file. seems just as convenient to me.

EricScott

11-20-05, 04:19 PM

Anyone else having a problem (I guess it's not a big problem) w/ the new (2.2 or later rev boxes w/ the digital audio option) 8300HD's temporarily not passing DD 5.1 over coax or optical? I am using coax to my Onkyo receiver and an HDMI/DVI hybrid cable to my Samsung DLP. On my old 8300, rarely if ever had issues where I was getting DPLII on a station that I knew should have DD5.1. But now, I find that every now and then I only get DPLII. I need to go into the setup options, temporarily change the digital audio setting to HDMI and then switch it right back to Dolby Digital (or whatever the 2nd option is called) and it seems to fix it. Anyone else having this issue?

Also noticing that after watching a recorded program, if I hit the live button to go back to live tv (usually I do this right b/f turning off the TV) and then come back hours or even days later and turn the TV back on, the box is still frozen at that point - in other words it's not buffering new live TV. Have to simply hit channel up or channel down to reset it.

Otherwise box seems to be working fine. PQ is great.

Digiti

11-20-05, 06:08 PM

I have the same problems with DD with this box. In fact it seems global see this forum: http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/2/4059.html?1132324572

Anyone else having a problem (I guess it's not a big problem) w/ the new (2.2 or later rev boxes w/ the digital audio option) 8300HD's temporarily not passing DD 5.1 over coax or optical? I am using coax to my Onkyo receiver and an HDMI/DVI hybrid cable to my Samsung DLP. On my old 8300, rarely if ever had issues where I was getting DPLII on a station that I knew should have DD5.1. But now, I find that every now and then I only get DPLII. I need to go into the setup options, temporarily change the digital audio setting to HDMI and then switch it right back to Dolby Digital (or whatever the 2nd option is called) and it seems to fix it. Anyone else having this issue?

Also noticing that after watching a recorded program, if I hit the live button to go back to live tv (usually I do this right b/f turning off the TV) and then come back hours or even days later and turn the TV back on, the box is still frozen at that point - in other words it's not buffering new live TV. Have to simply hit channel up or channel down to reset it.

Otherwise box seems to be working fine. PQ is great.

eliotw

11-20-05, 08:45 PM

Royevans:

Do you know the rev of you 8300HD that the HDMI switching failed with ? Is it 2.4 or older ?

Thanks,
Eliot

I took my rev 1.4 8300HD to the TWC office and swapped it for the rev 2.4 and HDMI switching is still failing with HDCP error messages. It was working at first after a cold boot of the 8300HD, but soon started failing just as before. I'm quite disappointed, but it looks like I'm stuck with Component from the 8300HD until something gets fixed.

Eliot

AndyHDTV

11-20-05, 10:49 PM

I just saw a advertisement tonight promoting "SKYFOX HD".
I wonder if they will be joining GMA by broadcasting in HD.

AndyHDTV

11-21-05, 03:43 AM

Channel 712 - HD Specials
11/26 - NY Knicks 12:30pm
11/26 - NY Rangers 8:00pm

jcc

11-21-05, 10:00 AM

Quote from:
Diana Smith
Director of Marketing for Video Services
Time Warner Cable South Carolina

"Universal HD will be part of the HD Tier on TWCSC"

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6561319#post6561319

I just hope when they add it in NYC they don't raise the price on the HDXtra package.

What the?!?

She said that TNT-HD is free on TWC so why is it blanked out on 87-2??? Is it on another channel that I'm not aware of?

This is for direct connect only...

ANGEL 35

11-21-05, 11:10 AM

What the?!?

She said that TNT-HD is free on TWC so why is it blanked out on 87-2??? Is it on another channel that I'm not aware of?

This is for direct connect only...

Its on 710 :confused:

pdroth

11-21-05, 12:42 PM

What the?!?

She said that TNT-HD is free on TWC so why is it blanked out on 87-2??? Is it on another channel that I'm not aware of?

This is for direct connect only...

It is on 87.2 but only if you have a cablecard will you be able to receive it. It is an encrypted channel.

eieio

11-21-05, 01:14 PM

i've had an 8300 for about 3 weeks. the first one flickered and can't be used, this is my second unit.

it has been working alright (some problems) until the last 3 days. now, when i turn my tv on (the tv is a sony 60xbr1 connected via HDMI to the 8300), the 8300 recognizes it (the 8300 is left "on" but it goes to some sort of an "half on" mode since only when the tv is turned on is the resolution displayed and the 8300 seems to "wake up", though at all times, the "on" symbol on the LCD in the front of the 8300 indicates that i leave it on all the time).

the problem is when i first turn on my tv, almost every time for the past 2-3 days, the image is mostly black with the exception of one quadrant!! usually, it's the upper left quadrant that has a reduced image. the other 3/4 of the screen is black. i have to switch to another station, and then switch back in order to rid the screen of this odd situation.

may i know if anyone knows anything abou this?

thanks in advance!

pdroth

11-21-05, 01:37 PM

margoba

11-21-05, 03:13 PM

I, too, used to have that problem, but it just went away on it's own about 2 months ago. Just FYI, you can get the full screen image back by viewing the Guide or the List screen, instead of changing channels.

-barry

eieio

11-21-05, 04:55 PM

My 8300 did that until I turned off the box with the TV. I used to leave the box on all the time also but haven't had the issue since. Try that first.

that is not ideal since when you turn off the 8300 completely (using the on/off switch), the set no longer records the "live" program of whichever channel it was last on, right?

what might be another solution?

pdroth

11-21-05, 09:35 PM

that is not ideal since when you turn off the 8300 completely (using the on/off switch), the set no longer records the "live" program of whichever channel it was last on, right?

Wrong. The box keeps recording even if it is turned off.

orbeyonde

11-21-05, 10:05 PM

I took my rev 1.4 8300HD to the TWC office and swapped it for the rev 2.4 and HDMI switching is still failing with HDCP error messages. It was working at first after a cold boot of the 8300HD, but soon started failing just as before. I'm quite disappointed, but it looks like I'm stuck with Component from the 8300HD until something gets fixed.

Eliot

Does anyone know if this failure of HDMI switching is TWC or SA's fault or is it a fault of the technology and the fact that HDCP is just a huge scam. Has anyone done HDMI switching through a receiver with a DVD player and has it worked?

I was originally so excited by HDMI. Wow , 1 cable that does everything, goodbye clutter. But the reality is that it seems so far that this technology is not ready for primetime.

eieio

11-22-05, 12:52 AM

Wrong. The box keeps recording even if it is turned off.

oh, i wonder why my first 8300, the one that didn't work well (flickering...etc) would not be recording when it was turned off?

most people i checked in with leave their 8300 on.

what about a little poll here? who leaves their 8300 on and who turns it off?

thanks!

margoba

11-22-05, 01:14 AM

Wrong. The box keeps recording even if it is turned off.

Mine doesn't.

-barry

POWERFUL

11-22-05, 02:45 AM

adrman

11-22-05, 08:59 AM

what about a little poll here? who leaves their 8300 on and who turns it off?

thanks!

I have one of the original issue 8300s. I picked it up the day after reading 23rd street had them. The box stays off unless I'm watching. No problems with recording, even powering down while recording.

anthonymoody

11-22-05, 10:30 AM

SRFast

11-22-05, 10:42 AM

Is there a cost to have a technican come and install Cablecard? My landlord asked and that was the one question I could not answer even after checking the TWC website. Any other ideas besides Cablecard to get HD over TWC would be helpful if install of Cablecard would be an additional cost.

From my experience, there is a $35 one time charge for the CC install. The CC cost $1.75/month. You can get HD programming on the HD STB or HD DVR.

Hope this helps...JL

scott_bernstein

11-22-05, 12:06 PM

Barry,
I'm pretty sure all 8000s and 8300s buffer whether on or off. The only way to stop this is to switch to something like 200, the VOD channels, which don't buffer.

This is correct. If you have your DVR "Power On Channel" set to "last channel viewed" (or something like that), when you turn it on (assuming it's not recording something on that tuner, or it hasn't been using both tuners to record something since the last time you turned it off), it will have 1 hour of the last channel you were watching in its buffer.

Scott

jcc

11-22-05, 02:02 PM

It is on 87.2 but only if you have a cablecard will you be able to receive it. It is an encrypted channel.

Hummm.. that doesn't seem to make sense to me. If it's a free channel why would they encrypt it? If that were true then Discovery HD would also be encypted but its not because I can get it with direct connect.

coneyparleg

11-22-05, 02:20 PM

I have a Digital sound issue:
I am connected to the audion reciever with a coax cable.
When I set the box audio options to digital, it pumps dd 5.1 and even sometimes 6.1 to my reciever - however there is an annoying lag in sound, and something just sounds off with the levels.
When I set the audion to HDMI out, I can get surround sound out of my system that is PLII but not DD or DTS. But when I do this the sound is perfectly synched up, and the levels are right.
DOes anyone else have this issue or is it just me?
I hope i was clear

pdroth

11-22-05, 03:55 PM

Hummm.. that doesn't seem to make sense to me. If it's a free channel why would they encrypt it? If that were true then Discovery HD would also be encypted but its not because I can get it with direct connect.

TNT is not a free channel. It is part of the 'Standard' tier, not 'Basic'. Only Basic channels are unencrypted (or supposed to be).

ANGEL 35

11-22-05, 04:03 PM

Does anyone know if this failure of HDMI switching is TWC or SA's fault or is it a fault of the technology and the fact that HDCP is just a huge scam. Has anyone done HDMI switching through a receiver with a DVD player and has it worked?

I was originally so excited by HDMI. Wow , 1 cable that does everything, goodbye clutter. But the reality is that it seems so far that this technology is not ready for primetime.

Yes I have. HDMI cable to a receiver to a DVD player and it works.DVD player is a Denon -1920 Denon 4806 receiver. :cool:

orbeyonde

11-23-05, 05:58 PM

Barry,
I'm pretty sure all 8000s and 8300s buffer whether on or off. The only way to stop this is to switch to something like 200, the VOD channels, which don't buffer.

Orbeyond,
I successfully route HDMI from my DVD player through my pre/pro, but have tons of trouble with the 8300...

TM

So I should continue to have faith in HDMI and simply continue to curse at TWCNYC for thier sheer incompetence at being able to offer a product that actually does what it claims to do.

Has anyone here tried contacting TWCNYC about HDMI switching?

anthonymoody

11-23-05, 06:18 PM

I believe people have. The general answer is: SA, TWC, and display mfrs are all working on it, which of course means that no one is :D

TM

Digiti

11-23-05, 10:47 PM

So I should continue to have faith in HDMI and simply continue to curse at TWCNYC for thier sheer incompetence at being able to offer a product that actually does what it claims to do.

Has anyone here tried contacting TWCNYC about HDMI switching?

Yes I have. Remember it is YOUR TV that is at fault! At least that is the mantra that the customer service people read and do not deviate from.

Mattdoc

11-24-05, 12:46 AM

Is anyone here familiar with or an owner of the Sony Model: DHGHDD250 DVR? It records up to 30 hours of High Def, and is Cable Card Ready. I found it for 499.00, and there is no subscription fee, but I think that it only has one tuner. How is the video quality? Does any one know if a dual tuner is out? or Perhaps it can record OTA HD on one tuner and cable on another? Thanks. If this is the wrong forum I apologize, but this could address some NYC Time Warner recording issues, so I figured why not.

eliotw

11-25-05, 09:48 AM

So I should continue to have faith in HDMI and simply continue to curse at TWCNYC for thier sheer incompetence at being able to offer a product that actually does what it claims to do.

With my 8300HD, JCV RX-702B receiver, and Samsung DLP HDMI switching and HPCP problems, the 8300 goes into a spastic mode there it is switching back and forth from 1080i (or 720p) and then to 4801 (the HDCP error message). On the screen I see the HDCP error, then a bit of the broadcast image and the sound goes in and out. When the 8300 is in the cycle, I'm unable to power it off or change channels. It take a minute of so after disconnecting the HDMI cable for this to stop. Clearly something very bad is happening with the 8300.

This makes me hopeful that this will be fairly easy for them to reproduce and hopefully as easy to fix.

Eliot

ANGEL 35

11-25-05, 11:57 AM

With my 8300HD, JCV RX-702B receiver, and Samsung DLP HDMI switching and HPCP problems, the 8300 goes into a spastic mode there it is switching back and forth from 1080i (or 720p) and then to 4801 (the HDCP error message). On the screen I see the HDCP error, then a bit of the broadcast image and the sound goes in and out. When the 8300 is in the cycle, I'm unable to power it off or change channels. It take a minute of so after disconnecting the HDMI cable for this to stop. Clearly something very bad is happening with the 8300.

This makes me hopeful that this will be fairly easy for them to reproduce and hopefully as easy to fix.

Eliot

I have the same thing with my setup. 8300HD lets hope a fix is coming. But with TWC who knows ???? :rolleyes:

anthonymoody

11-25-05, 01:32 PM

mattdoc,
There are a couple long threads in the HD recording forum here about the 2 sony cable card dvrs. I didn't bother following the threads since they do indeed have only 1 tuner.

TM

anthonymoody

11-25-05, 01:34 PM

BTW there's a thread on Secrets of Home Theater Hifi with some responses from the HDMI folks about the handshake problems (among others). The gist: some source components are not equipped to be routed through a switcher (i.e. receiver or pre/pro) before going to the display. Apparently the source components need to be designed to accommodate this. That's why (for example) my DVD player has no problems in this regard while the 8300 craps out.

TM

bigd86

11-26-05, 01:30 PM

eddieb187

11-26-05, 02:18 PM

I'm at my wits end and I'm hoping someone here can help me.
I'm in upstate NY, I have TWC, and I have 8300HD DVR and all the HD channels they offer.
HBO HD has been freezing up for nearly 3 months now.
Every few minutes the picture is frozen or a blank gray screen.
Sometimes there is sound during this and other times the audio is gone also.
Non-HD HBO is fine and All the other HD channels are fine.
They have been to my house many times and still the problem exists.
I have called other TWC customers in my area and they have the same problem.
I have even had TWC CS reps look at an HDTV while on the phone with me and they had either no or a frozen picture with HBO HD.
This is clearly is a TWC Headend issue.
I've spoken to managers, supervisors, cs reps, and technicians.
Either they have not bothered to send anyone out to the headend or who they sent there does not know what they are doing.
When I call they just offer to send someone out to my house.
To say the least this is very frustrating!
Does anyone have a number I can call to get some action?
I don’t know what else to do.
Thanks.

beatles6

11-26-05, 02:22 PM

As of 1:26, no Knicks in HD on 712?
Someone's asleep at the switch. I hope they wake up in time for tonight's 8:00PM scheduled Ranger game (5 hours to switch the Garden over from BBall to Hockey-not bad!)

Same here in Staten Island. CSR gave me the standard "they are working on the problem" answer.

AndyHDTV

11-26-05, 02:49 PM

Video on 712 is unwatchable, no audio and video breakups every second.
I scheduled the game to record it didn't start till 2:33.

AndyHDTV

11-26-05, 03:28 PM

Channel 708 - HD Specials
11/30 - NJ Nets 7:30pm

Channel 712 - HD Specials
11/26 - NY Rangers 8:00pm
11/30 - NY Knicks 7:30pm
12/1 - NY Rangers 7:00pm (NOT ON GUIDE, IS A HOME GAME, might not even show)

broadwayblue

11-26-05, 08:06 PM

yeah, the Rangers broadcast is terrible on 712 right now. almost no audio and video breakups every few seconds. i hope they can fix it.

AndyHDTV

11-26-05, 08:08 PM

the breakup has been going on all day since the knicks game at 12:00pm, they should have fixed it by now.

beatles6

11-26-05, 08:11 PM

712 is better than it was for the Knicks game but it is still pretty bad. I can't believe it can take this long to fix the problem.

broadwayblue

11-26-05, 08:13 PM

i won't get my hopes up then. maybe i shouldn't have sold my tickets for tonight. oh well, SD torture for me i guess. wonder why they can't fix it.

just great, i had to be greedy and try swapping back to the HD feed on 712. now my box is locked up and i have to reboot. :(

AndyHDTV

11-26-05, 08:35 PM

just great, i had to be greedy and try swapping back to the HD feed on 712. now my box is locked up and i have to reboot. :(

happened to me twice today

joeyo1313

11-26-05, 09:03 PM

Just called twcnyc and said 712 hasn't work since i got it on oct. 20th. They said i couldn't get a credit untill the outage was fix. I said but you havn't fixed it in over a month so i asked for credit from yesterday back to oct. 20th and i finally got a $10 credit!!! Well every dollar of mine that tw dosnt get makes me happy. but not as happy as watching the RANGERS in hd!!

joeyo1313

11-26-05, 09:04 PM

sorry about tyops watching game.

AndyHDTV

11-26-05, 11:27 PM

well I'm very fortunate that the channel was fixed for the third period and I'm even happier that I didn't miss the circus shot to end the game.

As for asking for a credit for the outage, I am hesitance because we're lucky we even have this channel.

Maurice2

11-27-05, 11:00 AM

well I'm very fortunate that the channel was fixed for the third period and I'm even happier that I didn't miss the circus shot to end the game.
Same here. First two periods had to be watched in SD. Shootout was great.

anthonymoody

11-28-05, 11:05 AM

BTW having watched (too much) football yesterday it's becoming increasingly apparent to me that 1080i looks much sharper than 720p, though I acknowledget that other aspects of CBS and FOX production chains may be coming into play (i.e. it's not a pure a/b comparison).

TM

Dm84

11-28-05, 11:07 AM

jeffrey r

11-28-05, 11:13 AM

Is anyone else having a problem where the tops and bottoms of the HD channels are being chopped off? I have the 8300HD paired with a Sony HDTV using component, and I've never had a problem. But yesterday, all of the football games, as well as primetime shows were missing information on the top and bottom of the screen. For instance, I couldn't see the score of the game--it was either chopped off or missing entirely.

The picture looked great and was still HD, but there was either a problem from TWC, with the 8300HD, or my TV. Not sure though.

Thanks.

kesone95

11-28-05, 11:42 AM

I'm cutting and pasting this question from another thread:

I just had a situation where my power supply board went out on me on a panny plasma. Luckily I had the CC protection plan. Tech came over replaced it and and all in less than a week, rather impressed. He mentioned I get a better surge protector. I opted for the monster hts850(on clearance). Really wanted to protect from further surge issues, but not really falling for cleans the the electricity which may improve picture and sound so buy the most expensive one line from the salesman. Well I might be imagining but picture does look a little cleaner with this surge protector.I'm also running cable into it. Anyhow I was very surprised I saw a little improvement in picture and to me a little is alot when it comes to video. I'm now opting to go a little further and finally pick up the dvi to hdmi cable. I've already read where diff is minimal, and as I mentioned that would be even better for me. So I guess the question here is anybody from TWC NY using the sa3250hd dvi output to hdmi input to your plasma without problems??My main concern is I get the dvi-hdmi cable and then find out TWC NY dosent have this enabled on the box, hence wasted money. And if I can get a better picture than the already better picture I got from getting this surge protector then I'm taking little steps to getting the best possible picture from my screen. Cant be happier than that. Hope someone out there can help and also verify better picture from their surge protector and dvi-hdmi cable.

scott_bernstein

11-28-05, 04:00 PM

Is anyone else having a problem where the tops and bottoms of the HD channels are being chopped off? I have the 8300HD paired with a Sony HDTV using component, and I've never had a problem. But yesterday, all of the football games, as well as primetime shows were missing information on the top and bottom of the screen. For instance, I couldn't see the score of the game--it was either chopped off or missing entirely.
Sounds like your aspect ratio setting got messed up.

Pressing the pound (#) button on your remote cycles you through the different modes that the box can display -- stretch, zoom, and normal.

Press the # key until it's set back to "normal" and everything should be fine....

Scott

jeffrey r

11-28-05, 05:30 PM

Sounds like your aspect ratio setting got messed up.

Pressing the pound (#) button on your remote cycles you through the different modes that the box can display -- stretch, zoom, and normal.

Press the # key until it's set back to "normal" and everything should be fine....

Scott

Good idea--I'll check that when I get home tonight. Thanks.

joshsaul

11-29-05, 11:19 AM

I have a couple of questions for the 8300HD gurus.

I currently have an original 8300HD, HDMI to my Panasonic plasma, coax to my Sony surround sound system. Obviously, the audio only comes through in stereo (should we be thankful it is not just mono?)

Anyhow, I am planning on going back and rewiring this system now that I have removed a few components. From what I understand, if I get the new 8300HD (v2?), it will support full 5.1 via the coax output. Is this accurate?

If so, is there any way to easily transfer my season passes from one box to another? I currently have 3 boxes total (2 8300HDs, 1 Pioneer). Should I trade in the Pioneer or the other 8300?

Also, there was a message saying that the new 8300 v2 has better PQ than the v1. Can anyone confirm this? How does it compare to the Pioneer? (IMO the Pioneer had the best HD PQ I have seen yet, the original 8300 was a major disappointment in terms of quality).

Thanks in advance for answering my questions!

scott_bernstein

11-29-05, 05:48 PM

Anyhow, I am planning on going back and rewiring this system now that I have removed a few components. From what I understand, if I get the new 8300HD (v2?), it will support full 5.1 via the coax output. Is this accurate?
Very close. You will need to specifically request an 8300HD that has a FIREWIRE output so you can "hook it to your DVHS deck". This is the only way to guarantee that you'll get the DVR the correct firmware at the current time.

If so, is there any way to easily transfer my season passes from one box to another?
No.

Also, there was a message saying that the new 8300 v2 has better PQ than the v1. Can anyone confirm this?
I do not believe this to be the case. The actual improvment comes in switching from the 8000HD to the 8300HD.

Hope this helps!

Scott

Goanna

11-29-05, 05:55 PM

marcos_p

11-29-05, 06:31 PM

My last TWC bill states that Concert on Demand would be available on channel 1018. I don't have it. Does anyone have access to this channel, without going into DIAG mode?

AndyHDTV

11-30-05, 12:19 AM

I got no such message on my bill, and it's still only avialble in diagnostic mode with no programming.

orbeyonde

11-30-05, 01:05 AM

I just picked up a new 8300 HD from the Richmond Ave, Staten Island office. They of course, do not have newer boxes. The one I got was Manufacured in mid July. I dont think SATA or Firewire is active on it.

From what I was told by a CSR several weeks ago, boxes manufacured AFTER July 05 should have working SATA and Firewire.

Anyone on Staten Island able to get one?

I received a firmware 2.4 box on SI, however that was during a new install, so the boxes did not come from Richmond Avenue. Unfortunately, the people in the Richmons Avenue service center are clueless. I overheard the CSR telling another customer that the 8300HD would only work with component cables so dont bother hooking it up to a regular tv. The customer was getting an HD in a week but wanted to get the 8300HD today. The CSR was not going to give him the 8300HD and was going to give him a temp box and then make him come back again in a week. I had to step in and correct her. Told the customer that if he hooked up through s-video or composite it would work fine on an analog tv. The customer was grateful I told him, but the CSR looked pissed at me, but luckily for the customer she gave in and let him out with the 8300HD box.

Unfortunately, the people who work there have no idea what they have in stock. You need to prod them to look, be firm, but be polite. Dont take no for an answer. Im sure they have more recent firmwares in stock but they dont want to bother looking for them. Stand your ground with them and insist that they look for them.
Eventually they will go take a look just to get you out of there.

Good luck.

dankwonka

11-30-05, 11:13 AM

Can someone set this straight. The newer version of the 8300HD is being called 8300HD v2? what exactly is the new software build? this has some kind of firmware update on it that supposedly enables firewire? i also read somewhere here that the newer version has hdcp issues and that 5.1 isnt working through the coaxial output. thanks for ur help.

ANGEL 35

11-30-05, 12:37 PM

Are the new 2.4 8300HD boxs firewire ??.Any one know???

Thank you
Angel

orbeyonde

11-30-05, 01:05 PM

Are the new 2.4 8300HD boxs firewire ??.Any one know???

Thank you
Angel

NO, no firewire on my firmware 2.4 box. Since I dont own a DVHS didnt think much of it.

LL3HD

11-30-05, 04:32 PM

TW programming reminder for any fans of classic rock…

Tonight on 713 at 9 PM

:cool:

Great Performances,
Cream reunites with Clapton, Baker, and Bruce.

Turn it up!

hsimms

11-30-05, 04:54 PM

It's possible that the 2.4 box is Staten island only.

When I first picked up an 8300HD a few weeks ago, I went to Queens Center because they were the only place open Sunday. Turned out they gave me a Queens Box. They should have given me a Manhattan box which they do have in inventory. What did I know. The Queens box wouldn't load the program guide. Exchanged it for a 2.2 in Manhattan.

I also recall a sign in the Brooklyn depot that Staten Island customers must go to the Staten Island depot for STB pickup.

So - there are at least 3 versions circulating in TWCNYC. Manhattan, Queens, S.I. Maybe a fourth for Brooklyn. It's a safe bet that since Brooklyn and Queens developed as BQ cable, they are using the same equipment. The variations in the system make sense since Manhattan, B-Q and S.I. developed separately and were bought by TWC.

Bottom line - If you write about a version number, indicate what borough you are in because your box may be -very- local.

blazeby

11-30-05, 07:54 PM

NO, no firewire on my firmware 2.4 box. Since I dont own a DVHS didnt think much of it.

I got a replacement box yesterday here in Manhattan. To my surprise Firewire is working. Not sure of the version number as I don't know how to check.

hsimms

11-30-05, 09:20 PM

I got a replacement box yesterday here in Manhattan. To my surprise Firewire is working. Not sure of the version number as I don't know how to check.

Turn the box upside down.

What do you have firewire connected to ?

joeyo1313

12-01-05, 07:04 PM

Ranger game on 712 tonight???

rpk113

12-01-05, 07:19 PM

Either someone fell asleep at the switch or we don't get MSG HD anymore for Rangers home games....

pace1313

12-01-05, 07:24 PM

This had better be a mistake. I don't pay $8.95 a month for the rip-off HD Extra package to be staring at a subscription screen!

joeyo1313

12-01-05, 07:26 PM

Preach It Brother!!

realdeal1115

12-01-05, 07:29 PM

I was talking to my friend today who has Cablevision. He says he is able to change camera angles on some basketball and football games in HD... Anyone know what this is and if it's available from TWC?

Thanks

mikeM1

12-01-05, 07:31 PM

This =does= totally suck. And i just checked the hdsports guide, and it =is= listed as being on msg hd tonite. So, i have no IDEA what this is about. :(

http://www.hdsportsguide.com/

bigd86

12-01-05, 07:41 PM

TWCNY-What a bunch of MAROONS (as Bugs would say). I called about the Rangers on 712 in HD, and the rep kept on telling me it was blacked out! After telling her as politely as I could (for at least 10 minutes) that she was "misinformed" -I finally got her to put me on hold and check, and wouldn't you know-thay are having "technical problems" and hope to resolve them soon. So why did she try to tell me the game was blacked out? Sorry, she was just in error!! OOOOPS! We're just TWCNY and we know nothing about our programming! Sheesh!

joeyo1313

12-01-05, 07:44 PM

tHANKS BIGD86 I guess its almost time to call and get another credit.

rpk113

12-01-05, 07:52 PM

mikeM1

12-01-05, 07:53 PM

tHANKS BIGD86 I guess its almost time to call and get another credit.

And if it's a "technical difficulties" issue, why not put a CRAWL on the bottom of the screen to let us KNOW that?! :(

mikeM1

12-01-05, 07:56 PM

Just got off the phone with TWC, they told me they got enough phone calls to warrant a technician to go out and look at the problem. For all I know this guy might just go and stare at MSG for a while. Either way, hopefully it will be fixed sometime during the game. However SD MSG isn't that bad tonight.

Good point. I noticed that TOO, that MSG is at least looking halfway decent in SD mode tonite. It ain't HD quality by a LONG shot, but it'll do in a pinch...esp with the Rangers winning at the moment! :)

AndyHDTV

12-01-05, 08:23 PM

Just saw an TWC commercial advertising HD during the SD broadcast of the rangers game, it said "Experience the best in HDTV"
yeah right....

mikeM1

12-01-05, 08:40 PM

I saw that too...wotta joke!

AndyHDTV

12-01-05, 08:51 PM

Apparently Universal-HD was added to our fellow TWC customers in South Carolina.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=99727&page=90&pp=60

hsimms

12-01-05, 09:22 PM

A squeaker for the Rangers. Still no HD.

rpk113

12-01-05, 09:24 PM

to get a credit for the game?

mikeM1

12-01-05, 09:33 PM

to get a credit for the game?

what would it come out to...a dollar? :(

AndyHDTV

12-01-05, 09:33 PM

to get a credit for the game?

I'm not, I'll probably just lose my temper!

hsimms

12-01-05, 09:59 PM

The problem with getting a credit is that MSG-HD and YES-HD are still not part of -any- package. Until they actually -offer- it, you're not -paying- for it.

Could be worse - you could be a Devil or Islander fan and be in total HD hell.

AndyHDTV

12-01-05, 10:07 PM

The problem with getting a credit is that MSG-HD and YES-HD are still not part of -any- package. Until they actually -offer- it, you're not -paying- for it.

In TWC of albany YES-HD is part of the HD Teir and MSG-HD is part of the basic HD. Don't know what's taking so long over here.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=223&Zip=&Image1.x=31&Image1.y=8

mikeM1

12-01-05, 10:38 PM

In TWC of albany YES-HD is part of the HD Teir and MSG-HD is part of the basic HD. Don't know what's taking so long over here.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=223&Zip=&Image1.x=31&Image1.y=8

Well if that's the case, do you know for sure that the TWC subscribers in Albany were able to see tonite's game on MSG HD??

AndyHDTV

12-02-05, 12:52 AM

Channel 708 - HD Specials
12/3 - NJ Nets 8:00pm

Channel 712 - HD Specials
12/04 - NY Knicks 1:00pm
12/07 - NJ Devils 7:30pm

rpk113

12-02-05, 09:31 AM

hsimms

12-02-05, 12:01 PM

granted my comments came out of anger, cause well after a road trip and then 4 days off, it was the first Rangers home game so I was looking forward to the HD experience. However, after the evening's mishap, my main question is, when will these channels be part of the permanent lineup in NYC? If then can get them on a "home" game basis when we can get them all the time?

If by all the time you mean home and road, msg/fsny, in my guess, is presently doing HD for home games only. HDNET is scheduled to do the following Rangers road games:

12/3 Capitols
1/19 Penguins

Don't know if this is exclusive or will be carried on msg-sd and blacked out locally. Did anyone catch Rangers at Penguins on this channel 11/12 ?

INHD is carrying the OLN feed for the following home games. These are exclusive, not on MSG and can be seen locally.

12/5 Minnesota
1/30 Philadelphia
3/20 Boston
4/4 Philadelphia

scott_bernstein

12-02-05, 01:40 PM

In TWC of albany YES-HD is part of the HD Teir and MSG-HD is part of the basic HD. Don't know what's taking so long over here.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=223&Zip=&Image1.x=31&Image1.y=8

...because TWC-NYC's song for a long time is that they are "out of bandwidth" and can't add any more HD channels. So if they were to start "officially" adding HD channels it would be going against their well-worn excuses for not adding HD channels, right?

Of course that doesn't prevent them from selling the hell out of Roadrunner & their digital phone service which both require quite a bit of bandwidth!

Scott

Goanna

12-02-05, 01:54 PM

Well, Roadrunner and Digital Phone are on different frequencies then digital cable arent they? Otherwise, the phone service would suck horribly while watching TV or downloading lots of stuff.

Did I just stick up for TWC? Someone, Plese slap me, lol.

The main thing with the Bandwidth is all the analog channels that we still have. Send the analog customers a damn notice already that they have to upgrade to digital NOW. And dont charge them an extra 6 f'in bucks to do it, since it is FCC mandate that it eventually become all digital, there shouldnt be that extra charge that keeps them from upgrading.

hsimms

12-02-05, 02:10 PM

TWC of NY and NJ of which TWCNYC is a part, claims over 1,000,000 Cable TV subscribers of whom 850,000 are DTV. From their website.

Goanna

12-02-05, 03:17 PM

TWC of NY and NJ of which TWCNYC is a part, claims over 1,000,000 Cable TV subscribers of whom 850,000 are DTV. From their website.
So only 250,000 people holding onto their 1980's and early 90's Analog STB's.

If I were in charge, I would be hated by about 250,000 people bcause I would just shut the analog service off and tell them they are S.O.L. until they upgrade to Digital, lol.

eagle76

12-02-05, 07:24 PM

blazeby

12-02-05, 07:55 PM

Turn the box upside down.

What do you have firewire connected to ?

Label underneath says Rev. 2.2, manufactured 10/17/2005.

I have FW hooked up to my Sony TV.

Goanna

12-02-05, 10:16 PM

I apologize if this has already been addressed. I have a SA 8300HD hooked up to my plasma (Panny 42PHD8UK). When watching channels in 4:3, the side bars are gray rather than black. Is it possible to make the side bars black? I'm not sure if this is a STB- or TV-specific issue.

Thanks in advance.
Its the STB and there is no way to change it (At least, not with Passport software). The Grey is used because it is better for your TV then black (Isnt as susceptable to Burn In).

tbaggin

12-02-05, 11:20 PM

I just got my first HDTV with built-in tuner recently and I need help setting it up. I tried plugging my live (free/unsubscribed) TWC cable wire directly to my Philips HDTV and I noticed I was able to pick up 3 HD channels (87.1 Discovery, 1.5 FOX, 1.9 UPN). I checked out some of the posts in this forum and found out I am missing 1.4 NBC, 104.2 ABC, and 105.1 CBS. I tried re-scanning on the TV several times and they are not being picked up. I also tried entering and adding the channels directly but my TV is not letting me go to those channels. Is there something wrong with my TV or tuner? or is it my free live feed? I believe those are the right channels and I should be getting them, right? If someone can help me out, I would really appreciate it. THanks.

John Mason

12-03-05, 09:04 AM

Welcome to the forums, tbaggin. Curious you're getting 709. I'm not and pay for the 'It's All Here'package for all channels. There's a round about way of tuning 709 with a converter by entering diagnostic mode
(holding down EXIT and SELECT on a 8300HD front panel until 'diag' appears on the unit, then entering 709 instead of 1999, the diagnostic channel, also tuned by pressing the two keys again for automatic tuning).

Suggest as a first step calling customer service and having them 'reauthorize' all your channels. At one time this could be done at home; TWC had a phone reauthorize option when you called in and routed yourself through the cable/problem Touchtone menu. Not sure if they still have it. Yes, you should be getting more local channels, which AFAIK TWC here delivers in the clear for QAM-capable set tuners. -- John

AndyHDTV

12-03-05, 11:19 AM

So only 250,000 people holding onto their 1980's and early 90's Analog STB's.

If I were in charge, I would be hated by about 250,000 people bcause I would just shut the analog service off and tell them they are S.O.L. until they upgrade to Digital, lol.

I was happy recently when we started receiving all channels in digital form, but only because I thought TWC might be getting ready to get rid of the 70 or so analog channels.
Now that I see that nothings going on with the analog shutoff we might not see TWC shut it off until the federal deadline in 2009. (I think 2009)

Which was a better situation:
1. All digital channels + Analog = Limited space for additional HD channels
or
2. Digital channels after ch.100 + Analog = A little more space for additional HD channels

Was the Digital Simulcast worth it right now?

Goanna

12-03-05, 12:38 PM

John Mason

12-03-05, 12:52 PM

TWC began so-called (misleadingly IMO) digital simulcast several years back in NYC, just weeding out a few remaining analogs that were automatically switched in with digital converters this year. Have always hoped for completely dropping the analogs, too, but the usual comment is there are too many analog subscribers.

Perhaps it's possible, with switched broadcasting (http://www.bigbandnet.com/news/inTheNews/2005/news_053105a.php) (SB) supposedly slated for startup ('06), TWC believes they can patch in lots of new HD channels and trim the analogs later. SB has been touted as letting smaller systems (550, 750 MHz) upgrade without a major overall. Interestingly, those participating in SB trials never knew when they were switching in SB channels or tuning standard channels. The SB, at least in the trials, was that smooth. -- John