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well, no more waiting around for ESPN2 HD on TWC, i'm moving, my landlord is allowing a dish, so see ya cable!
I hope i never come back, I tell ya that much, what a terrible 2 years of cable tv.
Nice reading your thoughts every one
Let us know how you like it… PQ, Audio, programming, etc… :cool:
Paul Chiu 08-25-06, 04:47 PM Go on, step on us when we're down.
Just you wait for those big rainb storms coming in the Fall and Winter....
Enjoy Playboy-HD!
well, no more waiting around for ESPN2 HD on TWC, i'm moving, my landlord is allowing a dish, so see ya cable!
I hope i never come back, I tell ya that much, what a terrible 2 years of cable tv.
Nice reading your thoughts every one
Paul Chiu 08-25-06, 06:20 PM Mike,
Do you mean when you connect a firewire 1394 cable from the JVC D-VHS deck with the 8300HD box's firewire, you were able to record shows in 1080i? Which channels? Are you with NYC's Time Warner cable service?
Paul
I haven't tried every HD channel but my JVC D-VHS does ok on direct recording.
I get some sound dropouts and picture breakups on the archive copies when I transfer programs stored on the 8300HD to the JVC--where the source programs are completely clean.
-Mike
NewToNYC11001 08-25-06, 06:40 PM I got my HDMI cable today. I plugged it to my TV and my SA 8300HD cable box - I got picture but no sound. Am I doing something wrong? Also SD channels had a flicker on the top. And I think all SD channels are coming stretched to fit the screen.
Do I need anything special for my HDMI cable to work properly?
Thanks
S
TMSKILZ 08-25-06, 07:08 PM I got my HDMI cable today. I plugged it to my TV and my SA 8300HD cable box - I got picture but no sound. Am I doing something wrong? Also SD channels had a flicker on the top. And I think all SD channels are coming stretched to fit the screen.
Do I need anything special for my HDMI cable to work properly?
Thanks
S
Yes, you have to go into the SA8300HD cable box settings & go to the SOUND section & enable "HDMI Audio" that's how you get the audio to work when using a HDMI connection.
Also while in those settings go over to the VIDEO & make sure you select only "1080i" as your resolution to make sure you are getting HD!
NewToNYC11001 08-25-06, 07:25 PM Yes, you have to go into the SA8300HD cable box settings & go to the SOUND section & enable "HDMI Audio" that's how you get the audio to work when using a HDMI connection.
Also while in those settings go over to the VIDEO & make sure you select only "1080i" as your resolution to make sure you are getting HD!
A couple things - I dont have a SOUND option - I do have Audio Formats and there are 2 choices - Dolby and Two-way - and mine is set to Dolby.
I also noticed that if I have the component cables plugged in to the cable box as well as the HDMI it picks up no signal on either source. If I unplug the HDMI then the component source works.
Again - is there something I am not understanding?
Mike,
Do you mean when you connect a firewire 1394 cable from the JVC D-VHS deck with the 8300HD box's firewire, you were able to record shows in 1080i? Which channels? Are you with NYC's Time Warner cable service?
Paul
Yes, the box and the JVC are connected with Firewire for recording. The JVC and the TV are connected with component for playback. The box is also connected to the TV with component for normal viewing, but I can watch through the JVC Firewire connection as well.
I get all the HD channels on TWC Manhattan South headend (1.8.112 software). I just ran a test of what I can record directly from the 8300HD onto the JVC. The only channels that come up blank (black, actually) are 705 (WNYWDT) and 707 (WABCDT). I was able to record everything else without any glitches.
Archiving programs to the JVC that were recorded by the 8300HD is another story.
There are random glitches every once in a while on the archive copies, but the source is clean.
-Mike
NewToNYC11001 08-25-06, 07:46 PM A couple things - I dont have a SOUND option - I do have Audio Formats and there are 2 choices - Dolby and Two-way - and mine is set to Dolby.
I also noticed that if I have the component cables plugged in to the cable box as well as the HDMI it picks up no signal on either source. If I unplug the HDMI then the component source works.
Again - is there something I am not understanding?
I figured it out. My only thing now is can I not have both component cables and HDMI cables plugged into my cable box at the same time?
teebeebee1 08-25-06, 11:13 PM Go on, step on us when we're down.
Just you wait for those big rainb storms coming in the Fall and Winter....
Enjoy Playboy-HD!
Thanks guys, i actually would honestly stay with Cable if they had ESPN2 HD, not sure that htere is that much programming worth seeing on it, but the fact they don't , drives me mad.
I'll let you know how it goes
TMSKILZ 08-26-06, 01:46 AM I figured it out. My only thing now is can I not have both component cables and HDMI cables plugged into my cable box at the same time?
Correct! only one connection can be used @ a time.
In your Audio options using HDMI connection, there should be an option to use "HDMI" for your audio source.
Riverside_Guy 08-26-06, 10:03 AM RCN?? My co-op signed a non-binding agreement with them to allow them to hook into the building (I had raised the issue about them demanding to be the sole provider in any building, but they responded that it was no longer a requirement), but they told us they couldn't make the last half block connection (supposedly that had already run dark fiber down WEA, probably to the same spot TWC has fiber) because they were undercapitalized and didn't have enough cash reserves.
Wow Mike, the FW connection is passing data? I'm shocked!!
EricScott 08-26-06, 06:44 PM Just ran the speed test and got nearly 6Mbps Down and 492Kbps Up - sweet! Now my slingbox may actually be viewable. At 384 Up it was pretty borderline. Curious to try it out at work on Monday.
inneedofhelp 08-26-06, 10:30 PM Yes, the box and the JVC are connected with Firewire for recording. The JVC and the TV are connected with component for playback. The box is also connected to the TV with component for normal viewing, but I can watch through the JVC Firewire connection as well.
I get all the HD channels on TWC Manhattan South headend (1.8.112 software). I just ran a test of what I can record directly from the 8300HD onto the JVC. The only channels that come up blank (black, actually) are 705 (WNYWDT) and 707 (WABCDT). I was able to record everything else without any glitches.
Archiving programs to the JVC that were recorded by the 8300HD is another story.
There are random glitches every once in a while on the archive copies, but the source is clean.
-Mike
I may be wrong, but I believe those are the only 2 stations (705 and 707) that broadcast in 720p; all the other HD channels are 1080i. Make sure your DVHS is able to receive 720p.
How long is it going to take to get NGC-HD? Anyone?
EricScott 08-27-06, 09:07 AM I may be wrong, but I believe those are the only 2 stations (705 and 707) that broadcast in 720p; all the other HD channels are 1080i. Make sure your DVHS is able to receive 720p.
ESPN-HD (725) is also 720p
Riverside_Guy 08-27-06, 10:21 AM How long is it going to take to get NGC-HD? Anyone?
While I have ZERO specific knowledge, my guess would be that there are a number of other HD channels that might make it into the lineup first. Doesn't PBS HD carry some NG produced shows? Be happy we have DiscHD!
I may be wrong, but I believe those are the only 2 stations (705 and 707) that broadcast in 720p; all the other HD channels are 1080i. Make sure your DVHS is able to receive 720p.
Right, but it's the TV that can't receive 720p! I have the box set to output 1080i and 480p but it must be putting straight 720p out over Firewire regardless of the setting.
I put that tape into my Mits TV/Mits D-VHS setup that can upconvert the 720p and I was able to see what I recorded from 705 and 707.
So, I can record all the HD channels directly onto the JVC D-VHS from the 8300HD.
-Mike
ESPN-HD (725) is also 720p
I was able to see the D-VHS HD recording I made of 725 on my Panny RPTV even though it will choke on 720p from channels 705 and 707 when played back from the JVC.
Weird.
Has anyone had trouble with SNYHD recently? It's been completely out for me (gray screen) the last 5 days.
Paul Chiu 08-28-06, 11:46 AM 741 working fine here in Forest Hills NY on my 3250HD and 8300HD boxes.
Try a hard reset. Unplug power wait one minute. Press power on with one finger and then plug back in AC.
Paul
Has anyone had trouble with SNYHD recently? It's been completely out for me (gray screen) the last 5 days.
Nope, the only issues I've had are audio related. Last weekend they tried to broadcast DD 5.1 and were having some picture issues. The pic issues cleared up, but the audio reverted to Dolby Stereo. They've been broadcasting that way since and pretty much for the last month or so leading up to it.
Has anyone had trouble with SNYHD recently? It's been completely out for me (gray screen) the last 5 days.
SNY has been fine downtown
Thanks for all the reply's. I tried soft reboot and pulled the plug - neither worked. I called TWC and she said that she hasn't had any reports of this channel being out although there were problems with the 700's over the weekend. She sent a reset and it still didn't work. She says they will try and resolve it within a few hours. Of course the Mets go on the road tomorrow so HD won't matter anymore.
scott_bernstein 08-28-06, 01:31 PM Thanks for all the reply's. I tried soft reboot and pulled the plug - neither worked. I called TWC and she said that she hasn't had any reports of this channel being out although there were problems with the 700's over the weekend. She sent a reset and it still didn't work. She says they will try and resolve it within a few hours. Of course the Mets go on the road tomorrow so HD won't matter anymore.
Unexplained grey screens on certain channels could be explained by a weak cable signal to your apartment. You might need to schedule an appointment for a tech. to come out and check your signal strength.
Unexplained grey screens on certain channels could be explained by a weak cable signal to your apartment. You might need to schedule an appointment for a tech. to come out and check your signal strength.
I hope it doesn't lead to that. 741 has always been crystal clear up until this happened.
scott_bernstein 08-28-06, 02:02 PM I hope it doesn't lead to that. 741 has always been crystal clear up until this happened.
Clarity of picture with DTV (including HDTV) is unrelated to signal strength. Signal strength to your cable box can go bad for any number of reasons at any time.
Clarity of picture with DTV (including HDTV) is unrelated to signal strength. Signal strength to your cable box can go bad for any number of reasons at any time.
Does signal strength effect dropouts? That's what I meant when I said crystal clear - very few dropouts on that channel.
scott_bernstein 08-28-06, 02:09 PM Does signal strength effect dropouts? That's what I meant when I said crystal clear - very few dropouts on that channel.
That is hard to say. It could potentially effect dropouts, but not necessarily.
I hope they get it fixed for you from the head-end!
Scott
Paul Chiu 08-28-06, 02:15 PM DK,
Try this if you have any.
If you have splitters of the coaxial in any path leading into the cable box, try screwing the cable lead into the other. Also, if you have Road Runner, is the speed there the same as before? If so, I guess we can assume it is not the cable wiring into your home.
Next, try to hard reboot all your cable related gear, those switches, hubs, routers, amps, etc.
It could also be a cable box that turned bad. I had that happened a few times in the past. Taking it to one of the many NYC TWC stores is real easy these days. I picked up a circa July 2006 3250HD and a circa June 2006 8300HD this past weekend at the Queens Center Mall. It took less than 10 minutes on line.
Paul
I hope it doesn't lead to that. 741 has always been crystal clear up until this happened.
Paul Chiu 08-28-06, 05:47 PM Beautiful quality!
Hooray! Sharapove for the entire 2 weeks please!!!!!!!
I took this with Fusion HDTV card an hour ago with 1st round Davenport match.
It looked great on my 23" 1080i LCD and it look even better on my larger 64" 1080i and 37" 1080p sets....
Paul
Forest Hills, NYC
3250HD 4.2 Passport 068
8300HD 2.5.066
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http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/original/16e5d9bd93d729c986f28c14ea2ad689-.jpg
Makanmata 08-28-06, 10:04 PM My 8300 had been misbehaving for many months now, pixellating to the point of unwatchability at times. The last few weeks, things appeared to have gotten much better, but this weekend it crashed, necessitating a hard reboot, erasing all my shows and programming with it. Now it has crashed, and refuses to boot up. When it finishes the boot process, all I get is a channel "0".
Is it toast, or is there something that might save me a service call or trip to TWC?
Thanks.
John Mason 08-29-06, 09:55 AM A cold boot (unplugging ~20 secs) or a warm boot (power switch) shouldn't erase your files or settings. After rebooting, sometimes it's necessary to press the remote's system-on key, The STB should then switch to the startup channel that can be set in one of the menus. -- John
scott_bernstein 08-29-06, 11:56 AM My 8300 had been misbehaving for many months now, pixellating to the point of unwatchability at times. The last few weeks, things appeared to have gotten much better, but this weekend it crashed, necessitating a hard reboot, erasing all my shows and programming with it. Now it has crashed, and refuses to boot up. When it finishes the boot process, all I get is a channel "0".
Is it toast, or is there something that might save me a service call or trip to TWC?
Sounds like you've got a trashed hard-drive there......You need to take that thing in and swap it for a new one. (Note that there is some keypress combination that will reformat your harddrive, which may help, but I can't for the life of me recall what it is. I know that I was able to successfully accomplish this once on my 8000HD a couple of years ago).
Has anyone else been getting more audio dropouts than usual lately? It is happening on both of my 8300 HD boxes.
Paul Chiu 08-29-06, 02:39 PM This is my 2nd day with the 8300HD and I have a 3250HD box next to it for A/B testing. I use a Gefen 2x2 HDMI distribution amplifier to test.
Pixelisation, mosaics, and ghosting is about the same on the 8300HD through HDMI and the 3250HD through DVI.
The HDMI output from the 8300HD DVR is much more contrasty than the DVI of the 3250HD. It is also sharpened more in the 8300HD.
The component YPbPr outputs og both boxes are almost the same.
Paul
Has anyone else been getting more audio dropouts than usual lately? It is happening on both of my 8300 HD boxes.
Gary Quiring 08-29-06, 03:03 PM What channel (9 or 11) is the CW going to broadcast on? And what will happen to the other channel that does not have CW?
Has anyone else been getting more audio dropouts than usual lately? It is happening on both of my 8300 HD boxes.
Yes, same here on both of mine. I called them this morning and they told me they were "doing maintenance" in my area (Sutton Place) but I just checked my signal levels and they were all lower than before they started messing around with their "maintenance" and I'm still getting dropouts and video glitches.
Also, whatever is going on there knocked my cable modem off line twice last night and once today.
I wish they would just go away.
-Mike
TonyNYC 08-29-06, 03:34 PM What channel (9 or 11) is the CW going to broadcast on? And what will happen to the other channel that does not have CW?
The CW is going to be on channel 11 while channel 9 renamed itself My9. Guess this is going to be temporary until FOX Television can figure out what to do with the channel.
The CW is going to be on channel 11 while channel 9 renamed itself My9. Guess this is going to be temporary until FOX Television can figure out what to do with the channel.
WPIX Channel 11 = The CW
WWOR Channel 9 = My Network TV
(Fox figured out what to do a long time ago...)
partyflavor 08-30-06, 09:30 PM So, I have the dtv intro along with a dvr and HDxtra and HBO so I can watch all the HD stuff (I really don't watch anything out of the 700s any more except the occasional show on one of the sd HBOs). I have yet to have the Universal HD channel. The website shows it as part of the dtv intro package and so I should have it. I've called about 21 times trying to get it fixed. Tonight the guy bumped me up to a regular package and it came on and so he said I had to subscribe to the more expensive package and the lone benefit (for me) would be one HD channel. Does this sound right to anyone or shouldn't Univ HD be just like all the other HD channels not a premium or HDxtra. I know the guy on the phone doesn't know what he is talking about, but he tried to tell me it was a special channel because it shows sports (it just happens to have the US Open tonight). Any advice on who to email to write about my problems with customer service or how to resolve this? Prior to this I've had 4 tech calls, 2 plant calls, and 5 different HD8300 boxes. I'm thisclose to giving it up--if only there was another legitimate option.
So, I have the dtv intro along with a dvr and HDxtra and HBO so I can watch all the HD stuff (I really don't watch anything out of the 700s any more except the occasional show on one of the sd HBOs). I have yet to have the Universal HD channel. The website shows it as part of the dtv intro package and so I should have it. I've called about 21 times trying to get it fixed. Tonight the guy bumped me up to a regular package and it came on and so he said I had to subscribe to the more expensive package and the lone benefit (for me) would be one HD channel. Does this sound right to anyone or shouldn't Univ HD be just like all the other HD channels not a premium or HDxtra. I know the guy on the phone doesn't know what he is talking about, but he tried to tell me it was a special channel because it shows sports (it just happens to have the US Open tonight). Any advice on who to email to write about my problems with customer service or how to resolve this? Prior to this I've had 4 tech calls, 2 plant calls, and 5 different HD8300 boxes. I'm thisclose to giving it up--if only there was another legitimate option.
According to this list for Manhattan you should get UNI-HD with DTV Intro:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=536&Zip=&Image1.x=61&Image1.y=6
Good luck !
-Mike
andrewjnyc 08-31-06, 12:20 PM Well, rumor has it the series 3 TiVo is about 2-3 weeks away, and I'm beyond eager to buy one and ditch the SA8300-HD. One thing that's been puzzling me, though...given TWC's refusal to let users install cable cards, is there a way I can scam TWC into renting me a card for each of the two slots in the new TiVo? I've heard that TWC intends to refuse to install cards in S3 TiVos in order to preserve the corporate revenue stream from SA8300HD rentals. My TV has a single slot, and I suppose I could get a TWC installer to stick one in there, but I'm not sure what sort of tale I'd need to spin to get them to cough up a second card. Anyone got any ideas?
noob question.... can u burn a saved program on the SA8300 onto a DVD disk? is it best to get a plain ole' DVD recorder or a DVD recorder with built in hard-drive? can u also burn HD programs?
many thks
scott_bernstein 08-31-06, 04:35 PM noob question.... can u burn a saved program on the SA8300 onto a DVD disk? is it best to get a plain ole' DVD recorder or a DVD recorder with built in hard-drive? can u also burn HD programs?
many thks
Yes and no -- you can absolutely burn SD stuff onto a DVD burner by using the S-Video output on the 8300HD into the DVD burner and the analog L/R sound outputs. But you cannot burn HD video onto a DVD burner.
If you play HD video through the S-Video output on the 8300HD, it will be letterboxed just fine, but it will be SD nonetheless.
jmp_nyc 08-31-06, 08:52 PM Well, rumor has it the series 3 TiVo is about 2-3 weeks away, and I'm beyond eager to buy one and ditch the SA8300-HD. One thing that's been puzzling me, though...given TWC's refusal to let users install cable cards, is there a way I can scam TWC into renting me a card for each of the two slots in the new TiVo? I've heard that TWC intends to refuse to install cards in S3 TiVos in order to preserve the corporate revenue stream from SA8300HD rentals. My TV has a single slot, and I suppose I could get a TWC installer to stick one in there, but I'm not sure what sort of tale I'd need to spin to get them to cough up a second card. Anyone got any ideas?
Aren't there FCC regulations regarding cable companies' handling of requests for cablecards? If memory serves, they're legally required to provide them for all cablecard compliant hardware on customer request. If that's the case, TWC can get into some very hot water if they refuse to provide cablecards for S3 Tivos.
Personally, I'm going to wait until there are a few reports of people getting them to work with TWCNYC before I run out and get one, but I'm looking forward to having something a bit less buggy than the SA8300...
-JMP
AndyHDTV 08-31-06, 10:01 PM dam, now TWC in San Diego is getting Starz-HD & Cinemax-HD.
http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/2/5053.html?1157068156
margoba 09-01-06, 01:19 AM Well, rumor has it the series 3 TiVo is about 2-3 weeks away, and I'm beyond eager to buy one and ditch the SA8300-HD. One thing that's been puzzling me, though...given TWC's refusal to let users install cable cards, is there a way I can scam TWC into renting me a card for each of the two slots in the new TiVo? I've heard that TWC intends to refuse to install cards in S3 TiVos in order to preserve the corporate revenue stream from SA8300HD rentals. My TV has a single slot, and I suppose I could get a TWC installer to stick one in there, but I'm not sure what sort of tale I'd need to spin to get them to cough up a second card. Anyone got any ideas?
I'm pretty sure it was Time Warner of Raleigh, NC that made the statement that they would not provide cable cards for Tivos. Time Warner, as you probably know, is a very decentralized company. In any case, Time Warner Raleigh later retracted that statement, saying it was a misunderstanding, and said that they would provide cable cards for Tivos, but that they would not provide tech support.
coneyparleg 09-01-06, 10:29 AM dam, now TWC in San Diego is getting Starz-HD & Cinemax-HD.
http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/2/5053.html?1157068156
Emailing Dressler now
Well, rumor has it the series 3 TiVo is about 2-3 weeks away, and I'm beyond eager to buy one and ditch the SA8300-HD. One thing that's been puzzling me, though...given TWC's refusal to let users install cable cards, is there a way I can scam TWC into renting me a card for each of the two slots in the new TiVo? I've heard that TWC intends to refuse to install cards in S3 TiVos in order to preserve the corporate revenue stream from SA8300HD rentals. My TV has a single slot, and I suppose I could get a TWC installer to stick one in there, but I'm not sure what sort of tale I'd need to spin to get them to cough up a second card. Anyone got any ideas?
There is an active discussion going on now in the SA8000/8300HD thread about the S3 and switched digital video (SDV) which is supposed to happen on TWC soon. I only understand maybe 25% of what's going on there, but I believe the gist is that Tivo S3 owners will be screwed by SDV because apparently it will take a (TWC) tuner to make things happen in SDV.
Then there is the S3 itself. According to something I just read on another group, Best Buy has just added the Tivo S3 to its stock list...at $799 for sale starting September 17th. Plus, there is the $14/mo Tivo fee. Plus $3.75/mo for the TWC cards.
I would also be happy to give TWC less money, but I wonder if it's worth it in this case.
-Mike
realdeal1115 09-01-06, 01:58 PM There is an active discussion going on now in the SA8000/8300HD thread about the S3....
Please post the link to that thread?
Please post the link to that thread?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=453804&page=155&pp=30
Above is link to current page of SA8000/8300HD thread.
So close to the NFL season, so far from the NFL Network on my TV :( . I guess they have until thanksgiving, but it really is a drag that a dish is not an option for this NYer.
Ant0nik 09-01-06, 10:27 PM According to this list for Manhattan you should get UNI-HD with DTV Intro:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=536&Zip=&Image1.x=61&Image1.y=6
Good luck !
-Mike
I have DTV intro, and I don't get that channel.
Riverside_Guy 09-02-06, 12:22 PM Did you just get your 8300HD? I've posted this at least twice already, but when I first got my 8300HD, UnHD and DiscHD were "missing." Both said they were subscription services. BUT, I got the whole HDXtra tier, something that I had NOT signed up for. So I watched a bunch of HDXtra content until three days later when it finally got blocked and UnHD and DiscHD became active.
Ant0nik 09-02-06, 10:45 PM Did you just get your 8300HD? I've posted this at least twice already, but when I first got my 8300HD, UnHD and DiscHD were "missing." Both said they were subscription services. BUT, I got the whole HDXtra tier, something that I had NOT signed up for. So I watched a bunch of HDXtra content until three days later when it finally got blocked and UnHD and DiscHD became active.
No I have the 3250HD, and I used to get most channels unblocked except for DiscHD which was blocked, but it was reset to Intro, and DiscHD became available, but UnHD still has been blocked, I haven't called because I wasn't sure if it was part of the package or not ( since the website could've been out dated, the channel seemed decent because of Battlestar Galactica in HD.
Riverside_Guy 09-03-06, 11:07 AM Just checked the website, UnHD is supposed to be a part of both the Intro and Value packages... call them. Quick... Firefly HD is starting this month on UnHD!
Just realized that the BSG scheduling is ferklempt. The HD broadcasts have the end of season 2 long after season 3 starts (assuming they aren't going to fux us and skip 1/2 the season... oh, I refer to Fux running of 24 this past summer when they summarily wiped out 1/2 the past season).
Paul Chiu 09-03-06, 12:20 PM Has anyone experienced this with the 8300HD box, TWC NYC Passport 2.5.066?
I used a simple HDMI/DVI adaptor plug and connected said 8300HD with DVI port 2 of my Westinghouse 37" LCD panel which is 1080p and that works at 1920x1080i. Then upon connected with DVI port 1 of same HDTV, it showed "snow".
Naturally I checked this with my other TWC box, the 3250HD which is straight DVI. Very strangely, both DVI ports on the Westinghouse 37w3 LCD worked perfectly.
How is this possible? How it is that the 8300HD works with one DVI port and not the other?
Paul
Paul Chiu 09-03-06, 04:34 PM FALSE ALARM! what a relief.....
After unplugging, plugging, rebooting, going to and from 3250HD and 8300HD boxes for over 2 hours. I even changed to the new OPPO 971 DVD, everything BUT the 8300HD HDMI out worked as expected with the Westy 37" DVI-1 input.
SO finally, I connected the 8300HD HDMI out with the Gefen 2x2 Distribution Amp and the Gefen out1 to the DVI-1 input of the Westy.
IT WORK!
Here is the strange thing. When I powered off the Westy 37" and connected the DVI cable to the DVI-2 port, same thing, SNOW.
Then, I simply toggle the input selector of the Gefen 2x2 and the DVI-2 worked as well.
This tells me that there has got to be some strange HDCP action taking place such that the 8300HD believes something is afoul with the digital content and protective action was triggered.
Where no hard or soft boot reseted that HDCP "lock", the Gefen 2x2 Amp managed to do just that.
Gee, $349 for just this? Gosh, the strange world of HDCP!
Paul
PS.
Now I am thinking this 8300HD DVR may be too much trouble since we have this handshake problem now added to the list of other issues. Problems like D-VHS recording, firewire, etc....
partyflavor 09-03-06, 06:35 PM Just checked the website, UnHD is supposed to be a part of both the Intro and Value packages... call them. Quick... Firefly HD is starting this month on UnHD!
Well, I think I might have finally gotten some at customer service to listen to me about what the situation is. The website lists Univ HD as part of the DTV Intro and yet it only comes on when they turn on the DTV Value. Their first reaction is to say that the website is wrong and then try and explain how they have a tiered subscription service. I tell them I'm aware of how it works, but that I think they're wrong. I highly doubt that of all the HD channels, they would arbitrarily select Univ HD as the single channel you get for subscribing to a more expensive tier. It makes absolutely no sense, especially when they already have the HDxtra package for which I'm paying extra. The guy finally got it through his head and said that he would open a ticket with IT and it would probably take three days, but either I would get the channel turned on or they would change the line up on the website. I told him I thought that would be a good idea since it is false advertising otherwise. The other thing that is strange is that I have channel 741 SNY which on the list says dtv value. Personally I'd rather have Univ HD than SNY...but I digress. Personally, I think they have a mistake in their coding and that their web page is right. We'll just have to wait and see.
Oh and I love the fact that everytime I call and ask about this channel they try and tell me about it only comes on for special events and that it is not always in a broadcast mode, then I get to explain how they're talking about 708 and not 709. argh.
jasonDono 09-04-06, 07:06 AM I had my 8300 set to output 720P and 1080i. Recently I noticed that my projector was not resyncing when I switched channels. I went into the 8300 setup and it was only set for 720P. It will no longer let me select 1080i. The only thing I have changed is going through a geffen dvi switch. Could this cause the problem?
On a side note, for the second time in four months, Time Warner has added a premium to my account that I have not ordered. Last time it was Starz, this time Cinemax. We are on auto pay, so it can go a while before we notice. It's criminal. Has this happened to anybody else?
AndyHDTV 09-05-06, 02:11 AM Wheel Of Fortune & Jeopardy is on my guide as presented in HDTV on 9/11/06.
two more programs to watch in HD
miloroman 09-05-06, 12:30 PM I just added a new plasma to my home and I did not have a need for a third DVR. I went to my local TWC branch (Mt. Vernon NY) for a HD cable box and was given the SA3250. I was very disappointed to discover that it does not have HDMI out, since my tv is wired in such a way that HDMI is the only way to get a high-def signal to it. Although I was able to pick up a DVI-HDMI adapter at Radio Shack and make an analog audio connection, I was wondering if there is a HD non-DVR box with HDMI that TWC has available, or if such a box is on the horizon.
scott_bernstein 09-05-06, 03:14 PM Oh and I love the fact that everytime I call and ask about this channel they try and tell me about it only comes on for special events and that it is not always in a broadcast mode, then I get to explain how they're talking about 708 and not 709. argh.
Ha! I guess that they get so many calls about 708 asking when it gets turned on, they just assume everyone's calling about it! :-)
cybertec 09-06-06, 09:21 AM Hey TonyNYC & Coneyparleg, my older bro works for verizon, he actually installs the fiber & is working in the Bayside area.
He keeps telling me how great Fiber is & will be once it's mainstream in NYC, as far as when most of NYC will be covered, he doesn't know as he says it's a lot of work involved.
Since he knows I'm big on HDTV & stuff related to it like HDTV programming he tells me Fiber will be able to offer so much bandwidth so that many HD programs will be able to fit on Verizons planned Tv infastructure.
I can't wait, along with lower bill.
I mean don't get me wrong I am quite pleased with TWC NYC, their tech support when I've been forced to call in & use it has helped me resolve my issues & their HDTV package I am cool with. Wish they offered more HD CH's but I am grateful for the ones I do get & I am impressed with their Internet service/package. although it costs a lot, I get fast speeds & have had almost zero system performance hits or interruptions.
With the recent Internet speed upgrade, I'm pretty satisfied, but bring on FIBER & Bring on Gears of War (XB360), yea baby!
Go Cowboys! Go Spurs!I already got the Verizon FiOS Broadband package 1 month ago and love it, for $40 a month I get 20mb download speeds and 5mb upload speeds, did a few speedtest and it is always constand, my broadband connection is not shared as it was with Cable, I could not return my Road Runner soon enough, their upload speed was a joke 768kbps and still is, well today I am getting Dish Network installed with 30 HD Channels including all the locals in HD "Platinum Package" and 2 HD Boxes for the same I was paying TW for an inferior product, thank god for all these choices out there, with more choices poping out on a daily basis, I just love competition, Cables monopoly is about to END, by the way your Bro was right, Fiber is smoking.
dad1153 09-06-06, 09:51 AM On a side note, for the second time in four months, Time Warner has added a premium to my account that I have not ordered. Last time it was Starz, this time Cinemax. We are on auto pay, so it can go a while before we notice. It's criminal. Has this happened to anybody else?
Yes it did! :mad:
Last month I was channel-flipping and I saw Showtime and The Movie Channel unscrambled. Since I only subscribe to HBO/Cinemax I thought it was free preview thing but a couple of weeks went by and the channels were still there. So I call TWC to ask about it and they tell me that I've been subscribing to Showtime/TMC since last November. I'm a single guy living by myself so no way somebody else has ordered anything for me. I ask who authorized it and the CSR tells me that information is no longer kept after 3 months since the order is placed. I ask why I wasn't told and she tells me it's in my receipt. Sure enough, I track down the cable bills for the past nine or so months and they all have under a very small print 'Showtime, TMC' billing. I should have looked at my bill more carefully (my bad) but that still doesn't answer who freaking ordered Showtime/TMC because I sure didn't. I tried to get a refund but she tells me after three months since a premium channel is activated there is no refund. I threaten to cancel my TWC account and she asks me politely (like a robot) what day and time do I want to schedule a technician to come pick-up my box. Somewhere in TWC's 'quality assurance' recordings there is a tape of me saying the most foul-mouthed and obscene things to this woman.
I also pay automatically my TWC through Citibank. Could it be... 'Twilight Zone' theme starts... that TWC secretly activates premium channels on automatically-billed accounts hoping to make more money on ignorant/stupid customers (like me) that never read their cable bills or watch unsubscribed-to premium channels because we know what we subscribe to? Basically TWC got from me a few hundred dollars for a Showtime/TMC subscription (a) I didn't initiate and (b) I never actually watched (because I freaking knew I wasn't subscribing to them). At the earliest chance I can to switch to Dish or Verizon (my building won't let me install a satellite dish on the window and Verizon isn't available in my area) I am soooooooooooooooooo kicking this s*** cable company out of my life. Sob, sob... a guy can dream, right? :mad:
Riverside_Guy 09-06-06, 11:17 AM Not so sure FIOS could deliver on all that broadband promise in Manhattan. Wiring to the apartment is going to cost way more in $$ and time than what took TWC 2-4 years to do, i.e. lay fiber to "street nodes" that then branch to copper. Not that I'm against it by any means, but I think it gives TWC a good bunch of time to get SVD to really deliver the bandwidth.
As for adding stuff w/o knowledge, boy that does suck (I've been doing auto deposit and auto pay longer than anyone I know, but every time I log into my bank, I spend 30 seconds looking at all the things going out of my checking account so I can spot anything unusual). But I doubt it was purposeful... it's kinda like the whole "we never went to the moon, it was all a conspiracy and a hoax." The bottom line is that there just are way, way too many folks involved. Conspiracies work only when there are very, very few involved. Remember TWC is a very large lumbering bureaucracy, very easy for rumors to get around and very easy for some to always be checking to see if rumors are true. Not saying it's impossible, just very unlikely.
While I understand the need to vent, a tirade against the poor phone person is kinda outta bounds. Better to spend that energy in forming (not foaming) a complaint to the state PSC. I remember once having a big disagreement with them, but instead of ripping the phone person a new one, I wrote a complaint to the PSC... I immediately (I mean the same fracking day) got a call and my problem was totally dealt with to my satisfaction. They even threw in some free stuff as an apology.
coneyparleg 09-06-06, 01:57 PM While an official complaint is definately the way to get results, I don't think that all the CSR reps are udeserving of backlash, while there are a number of helpful reps, there are also a number of nasty, unhelpful, lieing reps. I had one rep tell me that every supervisor, manager, and anyone who was above her had gone to a meeting and for that reason she couldn't transfer me, but don't worry I'll get a call back. I smartly took her name. never got a call back. called again got in touch with a supervisor who did help me with the issue in question and I reported her, he also confirmed that there was no such meeting.
sometimes yelling at a csr who deserves it could be quite theraputic
coneyparleg 09-06-06, 02:00 PM Also do reps get recognized for the amount of times they get a customer to add channels or services?
This could be a way for reps to boost thier performance numbers.
I just read this post from 30rock on the OTA thread. I would imagine that since we get 704, we will also get this in HD.
Here's the press release that was issued by WNBC today:
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WNBC TO BEGIN BROADCASTING NEWS AND
LOCAL PROGRAMMING IN HI-DEFINITION
First Local New York Station To Broadcast High-Definition Newscasts, Sept. 13
New York, NY—September 6, 2006—WNBC, NBC Universal's flagship station, will begin broadcasting 28 hours of newscasts and locally produced programming in high-definition (HD) beginning September 13, it was announced today by Frank Comerford, President and General Manager, WNBC.
"Since its first broadcast more than 65 years ago, WNBC has consistently led the way in delivering the most comprehensive news coverage and informative local programming from a dedicated team of on-air and behind-the-scenes professionals," said Comerford. "Being the first in New York to broadcast in high-definition marks a new era for the station; providing our team with the capabilities to best serve the needs of our viewers who will experience television that is richer than ever before."
WNBC's 28 hours of HD broadcasts will include regularly scheduled weekday and weekend morning and evening newscasts, as well as the locally produced studio programs "Reel Talk" (Saturdays 10-10:30 a.m.), "NewsForum" (Sundays 6:30-7 a.m.) and "Mike'd Up” (Sundays, 11:35 a.m.-12:05 a.m.). In addition, breaking news, studio-based specials and seasonal programming, such as "Gameday New York"—a weekly half-hour pre-game football show hosted by WNBC's Bruce Beck and New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin (Sundays 8:30-9 a.m., Sept. 10 throughout the NFL season)—will air in HD. Coupled with the network, 72 total hours of HDTV a week will be broadcast on Channel 4.
WNBC's new, state-of-the-art HD facility boasts a newly completed control room which includes an HD switcher and audio console, a virtual monitor wall—comprised of ten screens which can display one to 130 different video feeds simultaneously—and also has the capability to control any studio located at 30 Rockefeller Center and vice versa. WNBC's studio, known as 6B, houses five robotically controlled SONY HD cameras and, the station's chopper camera is HD, and in the coming months, the station will be transitioning all field cameras to a wide-screen format.
The HD project was overseen by Comerford; Dan Forman, Senior Vice President News and Station Manager, WNBC; Matthew Braatz, Regional Vice President Technology, NBC TV Stations; Ken Wilkey, Senior Vice President, TV Stations Technology and Kathy Mosolino, Director of Operations, WNBC.
"From our daily newscasts to breaking news to our commitment to the community, WNBC is evolving its unmatched local news coverage," said Forman. "Our foray into HD further enables WNBC to maintain its mission of covering the tri-state area like no one else."
"Bolstering what viewers have come to expect from WNBC has been the driving force behind the transition to HD," said Braatz. "The ability for me and my hard-working team to be pioneers in delivering high-definition television to the New York marketplace will ultimately be a rewarding television experience for us all."
"HD provides the highest quality picture and sound affording more audience enthusiasm than traditional television," said Wilkey. "With its already established lead in the marketplace for delivering the best coverage of local news and events, WNBC has now notched the lead in delivering the best in technology to its viewers."
This is very common, I have heard so much and it always happens to auto-pay customers - this is USA, business owns U!!
Yes it did! :mad:
Last month I was channel-flipping and I saw Showtime and The Movie Channel unscrambled. Since I only subscribe to HBO/Cinemax I thought it was free preview thing but a couple of weeks went by and the channels were still there. So I call TWC to ask about it and they tell me that I've been subscribing to Showtime/TMC since last November. I'm a single guy living by myself so no way somebody else has ordered anything for me. I ask who authorized it and the CSR tells me that information is no longer kept after 3 months since the order is placed. I ask why I wasn't told and she tells me it's in my receipt. Sure enough, I track down the cable bills for the past nine or so months and they all have under a very small print 'Showtime, TMC' billing. I should have looked at my bill more carefully (my bad) but that still doesn't answer who freaking ordered Showtime/TMC because I sure didn't. I tried to get a refund but she tells me after three months since a premium channel is activated there is no refund. I threaten to cancel my TWC account and she asks me politely (like a robot) what day and time do I want to schedule a technician to come pick-up my box. Somewhere in TWC's 'quality assurance' recordings there is a tape of me saying the most foul-mouthed and obscene things to this woman.
I also pay automatically my TWC through Citibank. Could it be... 'Twilight Zone' theme starts... that TWC secretly activates premium channels on automatically-billed accounts hoping to make more money on ignorant/stupid customers (like me) that never read their cable bills or watch unsubscribed-to premium channels because we know what we subscribe to? Basically TWC got from me a few hundred dollars for a Showtime/TMC subscription (a) I didn't initiate and (b) I never actually watched (because I freaking knew I wasn't subscribing to them). At the earliest chance I can to switch to Dish or Verizon (my building won't let me install a satellite dish on the window and Verizon isn't available in my area) I am soooooooooooooooooo kicking this s*** cable company out of my life. Sob, sob... a guy can dream, right? :mad:
marcos_p 09-06-06, 05:44 PM I just read this post from 30rock on the OTA thread. I would imagine that since we get 704, we will also get this in HD.
Here's the press release that was issued by WNBC today:
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WNBC TO BEGIN BROADCASTING NEWS AND
LOCAL PROGRAMMING IN HI-DEFINITION
First Local New York Station To Broadcast High-Definition Newscasts, Sept. 13
New York, NY—September 6, 2006—WNBC, NBC Universal's flagship station, will begin broadcasting 28 hours of newscasts and locally produced programming in high-definition (HD) beginning September 13, it was announced today by Frank Comerford, President and General Manager, WNBC.
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"HD provides the highest quality picture and sound affording more audience enthusiasm than traditional television," said Wilkey. "With its already established lead in the marketplace for delivering the best coverage of local news and events, WNBC has now notched the lead in delivering the best in technology to its viewers."
WOW. What a coincidence.
Last weekend, I sent emails to the local (NYC) news for NBC, FOX and CBS, asking what are their plans for broadcasting in HD. I only got a response from FOX, stating that they have not yet decided whether they will go HD for local news. I got no response from NBC, yet today they annoucnce this great news.
cybertec 09-06-06, 08:41 PM well today was my Dish Network installation, I got 2 HD receivers VIP211 and the Platinum Package, all I can say is WOW, the HD picture is much crisper "finnaly got back that WOW factor that has been missing from TWC HD, which has been degrading over time", I now have 30+ HD Channels including the local channels in HD and ESPN2HD, the digital sound is also superior compared to TWC, and so is the music channels offered by Sirius over TWCables horrible lineup of music channels, the Sirius channels have much better and more up to date music, all I can say is I am in HD BLISS, I should have switched alot sooner than I did, the difference in quality is very noticable, and to go along with my FiOS Broadband from Verizon, I finnaly have said my last goodbuyes to TWC "after over 10 years of service from them", and it could not come soon enough.
AndyHDTV 09-06-06, 09:29 PM WNBC TO BEGIN BROADCASTING NEWS AND
LOCAL PROGRAMMING IN HI-DEFINITION
First Local New York Station To Broadcast High-Definition Newscasts, Sept. 13
It's about time, I usually watch WABC but I will have to switch.
I just read this post from 30rock on the OTA thread. I would imagine that since we get 704, we will also get this in HD.
Here's the press release that was issued by WNBC today:
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WNBC TO BEGIN BROADCASTING NEWS AND
LOCAL PROGRAMMING IN HI-DEFINITION
First Local New York Station To Broadcast High-Definition Newscasts, Sept. 13
I posted the unofficial news back in July :)
HERE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8091130#post8091130)
Riverside_Guy 09-07-06, 09:48 AM First Local New York Station To Broadcast High-Definition Newscasts, Sept. 13
New York, NY—September 6, 2006—WNBC, NBC Universal's flagship station, will begin broadcasting 28 hours of newscasts and locally produced programming in high-definition (HD) beginning September 13, it was announced today by Frank Comerford, President and General Manager, WNBC.
Holy smokes, this is VERY curious, I was planning on posting a question. I'm a NBC News guy, and to date, both local and network looked like they had some serious video processing on them... more so than just being rezzed up to 1080i. However, it looked to me like it was way overly contrasty, it was a very "hard" look. It was very evident to me because of the difference between the studio and location shots.
HOWEVER, last night when I tuned in I immediately saw something VERY different. It still was in 4:3 but the overall image was far less contrasty (and consequently looked a LOT better). I was going to ask if anyone who regularly watches NBC News stuff if they also noticed such a difference. BTW, local and network are different, what I saw applies to local, not network.
Somehow I think maybe they did the switch but delivered it in a 4:3 frame.
I have the sonyxbr1 with the sa3250. Does it matter if use all the output formats or just use 1080i. Is the dvi/hdmi port active im planning on purchase dvi/hdmi cable .
This was from Crain’s NY today....
NewYorkBusiness.com
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Time Warner, Cablevision support cable rival
by Amanda Fung
September 07, 2006
New York City's two biggest cable franchisees threw their conditional support behind Verizon during a public hearing about citywide franchises.
Time Warner Inc. and Cablevision Systems Corp. - New York City's two biggest cable franchisees - threw their conditional support behind Verizon Communications Inc. during a City Council hearing about citywide cable television franchises.
During a public hearing Thursday, Time Warner Cables' New York City president, Howard Szarfarc, and Cablevision's president of cable and communications, John Bickham, both said Verizon should be allowed to compete.
But only if the telecom giant was subject to the same financial requirements for the city and public access channels, performance standards, construction commitments and customer support that they had to obey.
City officials last month began considering a process that would allow Verizon and any other provider to obtain a cable TV franchise in New York City. Currently, Time Warner and Cablevision dominate the city with 1.1 million and 600,000 customers, respectively. They plan to renew their franchises which expire at the end of 2008. RCN, which has 100,000 customers, said it will also renew its franchise when it expires next year.
Meanwhile, Verizon said it has already spent over $230 million rolling out fiber-optic cable in portions of Staten Island, Queens and the Bronx - areas where Verizon's Fios high speed Internet service is already available.
"Verizon has committed to breaking the cable monopoly that for decades has maintained control over what the city watches and how much residents pay," Thomas Dunne, Verizon's vice president of government affairs said during the subcommittee of zoning and franchises hearing, citing outside studies that state cable TV prices are typically more than 27% lower in markets where there is more competition.
Council members asked companies to address concerns over their community efforts, public access channel support and the employment of the city's work force. Over 60 individuals including representatives from local unions and public access channels requested to testify in favor of more cable TV competition.
I recently bought my first HD tv and I am really enjoying HD through the sets QAM tuner. I am able to pick up all network stations except NBC. I do receive NBC 4.4 (mapped to 1-28) that replays movie reviews and trivia, but my tv does not pick up NBC4 DT using the auto scan (channel 1-4 is TheTube).
I am wondering if other QAM users are having the same problem receiving NBC 4? If it is a temporary problem I might just wait it out, otherwise I'll be looking for a good indoor antenna. Thanks for the assistance!
AndyHDTV 09-08-06, 12:21 AM I am wondering if other QAM users are having the same problem receiving NBC 4? If it is a temporary problem I might just wait it out, otherwise I'll be looking for a good indoor antenna. Thanks for the assistance!
I have the same problem also, but sometimes when I change the channel and come back to 1.4 later on, it turns back to WNBC-DT.
strange.
I have a Sony 34XBR960
Is there anyway to check if your hdmi/dvi port works. Just spoke with customer service they told me on some sa3250 cable boxes the hdmi/dvi works and some dont. Can u check on this with the diagnostic screen??
Adamman100 09-08-06, 02:38 PM Holy smokes, this is VERY curious, I was planning on posting a question. I'm a NBC News guy, and to date, both local and network looked like they had some serious video processing on them... more so than just being rezzed up to 1080i. However, it looked to me like it was way overly contrasty, it was a very "hard" look. It was very evident to me because of the difference between the studio and location shots.
HOWEVER, last night when I tuned in I immediately saw something VERY different. It still was in 4:3 but the overall image was far less contrasty (and consequently looked a LOT better). I was going to ask if anyone who regularly watches NBC News stuff if they also noticed such a difference. BTW, local and network are different, what I saw applies to local, not network.
Somehow I think maybe they did the switch but delivered it in a 4:3 frame.
Yes, I noticed a slight improvement too.
They just announced during the broadcast that next Friday night's Yankees game vs the Red Sox will be on WWOR-HD...
I hope Time Warner is told about this and adds it!
Grrrrrrr......
They just announced during the broadcast that next Friday night's Yankees game vs the Red Sox will be on WWOR-HD...
I hope Time Warner is told about this and adds it!
Grrrrrrr......
Actually they said it will be in HD "on IO Ch. 709"
Regardless, the game will be available in HD and, as you said, hopefully TWC picks it up.
AndyHDTV 09-08-06, 09:10 PM My Email:
"Hello Mr. Watson, I was just wondering if FSNY-HD (which shows games from the Devils & Islanders) will finally be available on TWCNYC?
If their is no room for a 3rd HD specials channel; then can either one of the 'INHD" channels be preempted to show the games? I know Cablevision does that with SNY games.
Also is their any word on the possibility of Starz-HD and Cinemax-HD being added by the end of the year? I just heard that TWC-San Diego will have them next month.
thanks, Andy"
response:
"We have plans to add more HD before YE, but have not decided on the products yet."
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I guess "YE" means years end. I'm crossing my fingers!!!
AndyHDTV 09-08-06, 09:37 PM They just announced during the broadcast that next Friday night's Yankees game vs the Red Sox will be on WWOR-HD...
I hope Time Warner is told about this and adds it!
Grrrrrrr......
I'm not really that high on TWC adding WWOR-HD before other wanted channels.
they now normally carry 2hrs a day of HD Soaps, and now a couple of the remaining yankees games.
Maybe they will show some Nets games like they did last year, but I still wont put it over other HD channels.
I'm not really that high on TWC adding WWOR-HD before other wanted channels.
they now normally carry 2hrs a day of HD Soaps, and now a couple of the remaining yankees games.
Maybe they will show some Nets games like they did last year, but I still wont put it over other HD channels.
I agree.... I'd rather see Starz-HD and ESPN2-HD (along with FSNYHD and NFLHD on a INHD channel when possible)...
but I guess its more of a frustration thing... considering it used to be available... hidden... when it was completely useless... (although I am happy WPIX-HD is available now)
and now when there is some use.....
Speaking of other HD channels.... shouldn't they be able to use 708 and 712 for other stuff when not showing YES-HD or MSG-HD?
AndyHDTV 09-09-06, 12:07 AM Speaking of other HD channels.... shouldn't they be able to use 708 and 712 for other stuff when not showing YES-HD or MSG-HD?
With YES-HD covering all home games and about half the HD away games this baseball season, I hope that they stay with that formula for NETS games this comming season.
And with MSG-HD having only a handfull of HD away games last Hockey & Basketball season, I hope that they "BREAK" with that formula and dramatically add more HD away games.
If both channels start to offer more HD games, then adding other content to 708 & 712 will be a large task, with constant mistakes.
Riverside_Guy 09-09-06, 01:05 PM The odd thing I see (been HD since mid May) is that 708 seems to be the place where HD sports broadcasts go for YES HD and MSG HD as TWC doesn't carry those channels full time. Fine. BUT I have never, ever, ever seen anything on 712.
Andy, I didn't know that Fred Dressler was your uncle <g>? I written very polite questions a few times and I don't even get an assistant to answer me. Seriously, I do appreciate that your queries seems to get responses and I'm indeed happy we'll see something BYE (aren't acronyms wonderful, what a way to say "before year's end").
Crossing my finger's for Starz HD.
...Speaking of other HD channels.... shouldn't they be able to use 708 and 712 for other stuff when not showing YES-HD or MSG-HD?
I read somewhere on this forum that the slots for these HD "special" channels actually don't use any bandwidth when they aren't in use. I'm guessing that they can't use them, or other potential channels, for HD full time because (according to them) they don't have the bandwidth.
Switched digital video (SDV) will solve that problem, but the status of that at TWC-NYC is unknown.
-Mike
AndyHDTV 09-09-06, 02:00 PM The odd thing I see (been HD since mid May) is that 708 seems to be the place where HD sports broadcasts go for YES HD and MSG HD as TWC doesn't carry those channels full time. Fine. BUT I have never, ever, ever seen anything on 712.
Andy, I didn't know that Fred Dressler was your uncle <g>? I written very polite questions a few times and I don't even get an assistant to answer me. Seriously, I do appreciate that your queries seems to get responses and I'm indeed happy we'll see something BYE (aren't acronyms wonderful, what a way to say "before year's end").
Crossing my finger's for Starz HD.
1. every HD game produced by YES has always ended up on channel 708, and every HD game produced by MSG has always ended up on channel 712.
Only a handful of Liberty games were shown on 712 this summer.
As the hockey season starts up in a few weeks, you will see info on 712 light up again. Or in your case the first time.
2.Dressler hasn't responded to any of my emails in many many months, the last response that I posted was from Bob Watson from the NYC head office.
3. I'm also crossing my fingers for Starz-HD.
FYI: Comcast carries OnDemand-HD with Starz-HD movies, I wish something like that could make it's way here.
I read somewhere on this forum that the slots for these HD "special" channels actually don't use any bandwidth when they aren't in use. I'm guessing that they can't use them, or other potential channels, for HD full time because (according to them) they don't have the bandwidth.
Switched digital video (SDV) will solve that problem, but the status of that at TWC-NYC is unknown.
-Mike
I think I've heard something like that as well.... but it doens't make sense completely...
What happens when 708 and/or 712 are activated? Do other channels lose bandwidth/quality?
If not, then aren't they already setting aside bandwidth for 2 channels that are on less than 25% of the time?
I think I've heard something like that as well.... but it doens't make sense completely...
What happens when 708 and/or 712 are activated? Do other channels lose bandwidth/quality?
If not, then aren't they already setting aside bandwidth for 2 channels that are on less than 25% of the time?
I'm not sure I believe that they are out of bandwidth. Unless Comcast in NJ has been on SDV for almost 2 years, how is it that they have the bandwidth for pretty much everything that we want, including internet at 16Mbps--all which I had when I was in NJ on Comcast--while we can't get anything added here?
I think there are big company business (media supplier contract) issues involved here at least as much as bandwidth considerations.
-Mike
beatles6 09-09-06, 04:24 PM Today and tomorrow's Yankee games from Baltimore are on YES HD however the TWC program guide shows the channel 708 time slots as off air. What gives? Why isn't TWC carrying these YES HD telecasts?
AndyHDTV 09-09-06, 05:27 PM Today and tomorrow's Yankee games from Baltimore are on YES HD however the TWC program guide shows the channel 708 time slots as off air. What gives? Why isn't TWC carrying these YES HD telecasts?
somebody messed up.
Riverside_Guy 09-10-06, 10:20 AM Andy, I tried to send an e-mail to Dressler, but it wouldn't go through... I got a domain error. Did some checking and the domain was registered, but my guess is there's no mail server associated with it. Scratched my head, then realized it WAS Watson I wrote, not Dressler. However, it WAS at the "twcable.com" address that seems non-functional now. Very possible those were addresses that were not meant to be "known" to anyone other than insiders, so not surprising they got shut down.
WOW, On Demand HD!!! We've never even got On Demand SD Starz. Frankly, I didn't know that such an animal existed. I AM surprised that nobody ever seems to mention PPV HD.
Isn't it also true that typically on weekends, channels other than YES have rights to Yankee games? I have tried to tune into them on 708, but found gray screens... then I find them on Pix 9.
Anyway, I wish ALL youse guys to for-frakking-get the forum today and bask in HD local sports goodness with the Jets, the US Open mens final, and the Giants tonight.
beatles6 09-10-06, 10:37 AM Anyway, I wish ALL youse guys to for-frakking-get the forum today and bask in HD local sports goodness with the Jets, the US Open mens final, and the Giants tonight.
Hate to dissapoint the Jet fans but their games is not in HD today. Also looks like for the 2nd straight day TWC is not carrying the HD feed of the Yankee game from Baltimore.
Isn't it also true that typically on weekends, channels other than YES have rights to Yankee games? I have tried to tune into them on 708, but found gray screens... then I find them on Pix 9.
You've got things very very very confused....
YES Network and WWOR (My9) show ALL local yankee games outside of Saturday 1PM and Sunday night 8pm. Up until now - the games on broadcast WWOR were not made available in HD, but they announced this weekend that this coming Friday HD would be on WWOR-DT (which is the only local broadcast network Time Warner currently doesn't have). For the most part - Friday night games were on WWOR this season, but a few Tuesday night games were used instead during the summer.
Saturday 1PM games are on FOX (and not HD, only availble on channel 705 in SD-widescreen during the redular season)
Sunday night 8pm games are on ESPN-HD (725).
Games not being shown on YES will not be on channel 708.
AndyHDTV 09-10-06, 12:21 PM Andy, I tried to send an e-mail to Dressler, but it wouldn't go through... I got a domain error. Did some checking and the domain was registered, but my guess is there's no mail server associated with it. Scratched my head, then realized it WAS Watson I wrote, not Dressler. However, it WAS at the "twcable.com" address that seems non-functional now. Very possible those were addresses that were not meant to be "known" to anyone other than insiders, so not surprising they got shut down.
just for clarification, At the TWC Corporate level you have:
CEO - Glenn.Britt@twcable.com
COO - Landel.Hobbs@twcable.com
VP of Programming - Fred.Dressler@twcable.com
you can vent to them
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at the local level you have:
VP of Programming & New Business Development - Bob.Watson@twcable.com
you can request these channels which they have the power to add, all others have to be taken care of by the corporate level.
FSNY-HD
WWOR-HD (My9-HD)
PPV-HD
Starz-HD
Cinemax-HD
AndyHDTV 09-10-06, 12:25 PM WOW, On Demand HD!!! We've never even got On Demand SD Starz. Frankly, I didn't know that such an animal existed. I AM surprised that nobody ever seems to mention PPV HD.
I can wait till next year for PPV-HD.
AndyHDTV 09-10-06, 12:29 PM My email:
"Hello again Mr. Carlin, I recently heard that Cablevision will be adding
WWOR-HD next week, is Friday's Yankees game going to be in HD as well as future
Nets games?
Also have you heard any news on TWC's plans to broadcast WWOR-HD?
thank you, Andy"
Response:
"Yes, beginning 9/15, Cablevision will offer WWOR in HD. TW is still a question mark. Please call TW. It does make a difference."
broadwayblue 09-10-06, 12:47 PM As the hockey season starts up in a few weeks, you will see info on 712 light up again. Or in your case the first time.
They better have fixed the problem regarding channel 712 being an "unrecordable channel" this time around. I can't even count how many times I was unable to record Rangers games last year in HD because you could only record the game if you were home AFTER the game actually started. Despite calling TWC a handful of times and speaking to supervisors I was never able to get a satisfying answer. I hope they also do something about extending the broadcasting window in the channel guide, as the channel went black on more than 1 occasion while the game was still on...usually in the middle of a shootout! Are you listening TWC??? Get your act together!
They better have fixed the problem regarding channel 712 being an "unrecordable channel" this time around. I can't even count how many times I was unable to record Rangers games last year in HD because you could only record the game if you were home AFTER the game actually started. Despite calling TWC a handful of times and speaking to supervisors I was never able to get a satisfying answer. I hope they also do something about extending the broadcasting window in the channel guide, as the channel went black on more than 1 occasion while the game was still on...usually in the middle of a shootout! Are you listening TWC??? Get your act together!
They made somewhat of a fix for Yankee broadcast that I asusme they will extend to knicks and rangers broadcasts.
the offical game window for a 7pm yankee game is now (i think) 7pm to 2 am... (i may be slightly off) - otherwise the same unrecordable issues exist...
So you need to set up a season recording of all NHL Hockey on 712 the first time it airs during preseason... then update your guide by scrolling ahead days when the channel is active...
Thats currently the best advice i can give you...
beatles6 09-10-06, 01:14 PM Also looks like for the 2nd straight day TWC is not carrying the HD feed of the Yankee game from Baltimore.
The program guide for tomorrow night's game from Baltimore also says off air for channel 708. Just checked Direct TV and they are not showing today's HD telecast. Ken Singleton and Jim Katt are sitting in the booth holding YES HD microphones. Can anyone who knows someone with Cablevision confirm if they are picking up the HD feed?
What is up with the NY Jet games not being in HD on CBS-HD (702)? I know a number of games last year weren't in HD but figured for sure in 2006 things would be different. No one is getting this game vs. Tennesee in Hi-Def, right?
broadwayblue 09-10-06, 02:02 PM What is up with the NY Jet games not being in HD on CBS-HD (702)? I know a number of games last year weren't in HD but figured for sure in 2006 things would be different. No one is getting this game vs. Tennesee in Hi-Def, right?
Check the HD Programming forum for more information. Basically, CBS is only doing 3 games a week in HD. They spent their money and resources on their new HD Studio. Next year they will do 4 games a week, 5 in 08, and finally all 6 games per week in 2009.
broadwayblue 09-10-06, 02:11 PM They made somewhat of a fix for Yankee broadcast that I asusme they will extend to knicks and rangers broadcasts.
the offical game window for a 7pm yankee game is now (i think) 7pm to 2 am... (i may be slightly off) - otherwise the same unrecordable issues exist...
So you need to set up a season recording of all NHL Hockey on 712 the first time it airs during preseason... then update your guide by scrolling ahead days when the channel is active...
Thats currently the best advice i can give you...
Glad to hear they might have solved the early cut off issue. Unfortunately the unrecordable channel issue is my real concern. The problem is that you never know if the game is going to record or not...even when you have previously set it to record during one of the "available" periods. Since I usually can't spare both tuners (to tape the HD feed and the SD broadcast as a backup) I have gotten stuck with no recording on more than one occasion. Then I'm stuck having to watch highlights on Rangers in 60...but with my luck this usually this happens on a night when there's also a Knicks game on so Rangers in 60 is not on for some reason.
One memorable phone call to TWC had the rep telling me that once the game started the channel would be active and I would be able to record the program at that point. So I politely asked the rep why I needed to pay $10/month for a DVR if I needed to be home to tape the show? "Good point" was the reply.
So my question is, Why should any channel ever be "unrecordable"? If it were a pay per view channel and you weren't purchasing it the show wouldn't come on and you'd be recording a screen that said "call to order" or something like that. I still haven't received an answer that makes any sense.
One memorable phone call to TWC had the rep telling me that once the game started the channel would be active and I would be able to record the program at that point. So I politely asked the rep why I needed to pay $10/month for a DVR if I needed to be home to tape the show? "Good point" was the reply.
So my question is, Why should any channel ever be "unrecordable"? If it were a pay per view channel and you weren't purchasing it the show wouldn't come on and you'd be recording a screen that said "call to order" or something like that. I still haven't received an answer that makes any sense.
Its really a function of crappy programming of the box itself... they're turing a channel on and off. The box/dvr is programmed to not allow you to record a channel that isn't available - to "help" you out.... Of course this doesn't take into account a channel that is turned on and off on a regular basis....
ngibsonn 09-10-06, 11:03 PM Could someone post a working channels.conf with the QAM_256 signal information for TWC HDTV in Manhattan? I've tried every possible way to scan and I can't get anything.
If someone could post the frequency information I would appreciate it a great deal!
Thanks
AndyHDTV 09-10-06, 11:28 PM Could someone post a working channels.conf with the QAM_256 signal information for TWC HDTV in Manhattan? I've tried every possible way to scan and I can't get anything.
If someone could post the frequency information I would appreciate it a great deal!
Thanks
Sorry, I have to really really be in the mood to do that.
Although I recall another poster posting it a while back, If their reading now I'm sure they have that info saved somewhere.
ngibsonn 09-11-06, 12:04 AM If you can't post a working channels.conf is there any way you could recall what tools allowed you to create it ? All the tools I've tried (dvbscan, atscscan, tvtime etc.. ) haven't worked. I really want to get this card working and I'm at a loss.
Thanks
TMSKILZ 09-11-06, 12:28 AM TWC failure to deliver on more HD Chs has me really considering getting Satelite HD! The only thing holding me back is satelite's issues when the weather is bad which means no picture!
AndyHDTV 09-11-06, 01:44 AM If you can't post a working channels.conf is there any way you could recall what tools allowed you to create it ? All the tools I've tried (dvbscan, atscscan, tvtime etc.. ) haven't worked. I really want to get this card working and I'm at a loss.
Thanks
sorry, can't help. not familiar with thoses tools.
there are a couple posters here that know a lot of the technical info with TWC and if given a day or two I'm sure they will come across your post and be able to help you out.
AndyHDTV 09-11-06, 01:49 AM TWC failure to deliver on more HD Chs has me really considering getting Satelite HD! The only thing holding me back is satelite's issues when the weather is bad which means no picture!
Wait till the end of the year before jumping ship, although DishNetwork looks realy tempting these days.
A couple of posts back I posted that Bob Watson said:
"We have plans to add more HD before YE, but have not decided on the products yet."
whatever thier adding, 3, 2 or 1 channel is not known, neither what it could be.
Might be:
WWOR-HD
FSNY-HD
Starz-HD
Cinemax-HD
PPV-HD
who knows
Could someone post a working channels.conf with the QAM_256 signal information for TWC HDTV in Manhattan? I've tried every possible way to scan and I can't get anything.
If someone could post the frequency information I would appreciate it a great deal!
Thanks
This may be what you want, from Berk32
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8257804&&#post8257804
Slikkster 09-11-06, 09:01 AM I think it's ridiculous that TWC (NY) doesn't have WWOR-DT in their HD tier yet. I'm not even a Yankee fan, lol. And what's worse is the fees they charge for things like HDNET, INHD, ESPN-HD, etc. If you click on the TWC national page, you'll see that they charge $3.95 for this tier in Albany. It's $8.95 here. ESPN-HD??? Why do I have to pay for that? I guess I can understand INHD/HDNET, etc. But ESPN-HD? I emailed a TWC-NY rep about that, and the response I got was that it was due to the sub fee charged to them by the content originators. Do the other cable co's charge for these channels, and that much?
Riverside_Guy 09-11-06, 10:30 AM I was surprised CBS had the Jets game in SD... then again, it only goes to show that a 4th rate network tends to stay that way. Of course, we have the league and the team who apparently couldn't care less either; both second rate outfits will make just as much money if the local fans get stiffed or not, so why should they give a crap?
I was surprised CBS had the Jets game in SD... then again, it only goes to show that a 4th rate network tends to stay that way. Of course, we have the league and the team who apparently couldn't care less either; both second rate outfits will make just as much money if the local fans get stiffed or not, so why should they give a crap?
CBS is currently only capable of doing 3 games in HD a week. They should be adding 1 more a year (according to many rumors). This year they supposedly revamped their studio and made it HD instead of adding capability of one game.
The Jets-Titans game wasn't a high-profile game... They chose the 3 based on % of the country getting the game....
btw FOX can only do 6 a week, so when they have more than 6, the other games end up in SD-Widescreen (like this week SF-ARI was not HD).
scott_bernstein 09-11-06, 12:12 PM I read somewhere on this forum that the slots for these HD "special" channels actually don't use any bandwidth when they aren't in use.
This is correct. Based on the current claims of "we're out of bandwidth" and the "rate shaping" that TWC uses to squeeze more channels into less space, I'd have to wonder if when the "HD Specials" channels are in use, if they are not stealing bandwidth from the other HD channels that they're sharing their spectrum with and degrading the quality of other HD channels that we have?
scott_bernstein 09-11-06, 12:20 PM I'm not sure I believe that they are out of bandwidth. Unless Comcast in NJ has been on SDV for almost 2 years, how is it that they have the bandwidth for pretty much everything that we want, including internet at 16Mbps--all which I had when I was in NJ on Comcast--while we can't get anything added here?
It really has to do with the technology that was installed when the system was wired. There really is a such thing as a limit to the amount of bandwidth that a cable system can carry without significant upgrades throughout the entire system -- it's the old "weakest link in the chain" problem -- they have to upgrade the entire system (an expensive proposition) or none of it....
scott_bernstein 09-11-06, 12:29 PM Might be:
WWOR-HD
FSNY-HD
Starz-HD
Cinemax-HD
PPV-HD
Let's not forget these channels that TWC corporate might be working on deals with:
MHD (Hi Def MTV music channel)
Food Network HD
National Geographic HD
I mean, look how quickly we got both TNT-HD and UHD after TWC worked out a corp. deal with them....
Personally, I'd most like Starz-HD, followed by Cinemax-HD and even MHD if they get a deal worked out (there's nothing like watching HD music events, and MHD gets to pick from the libraries of MTV, VH1, & CMT).
We /had/ PPV-HD (720), and TWC-NYC never scheduled any events for the channel except for a few boxing matches in HD, and then finally took it away....
My email:
"Hello again Mr. Carlin, I recently heard that Cablevision will be adding
WWOR-HD next week, is Friday's Yankees game going to be in HD as well as future
Nets games?
Also have you heard any news on TWC's plans to broadcast WWOR-HD?
thank you, Andy"
Response:
"Yes, beginning 9/15, Cablevision will offer WWOR in HD. TW is still a question mark. Please call TW. It does make a difference."
Is WWOR the channel Veronica Mars is on, assuming it comes back for another season.
No....Veronica Mars will be on 711 (the new CW).
Is WWOR the channel Veronica Mars is on, assuming it comes back for another season.
Veronica Mars WAS on WWOR (at the time UPN9). but was now brought along with a few other UPN shows and a bunch of WB shows to the New CW network, which will be on WPIX Channel 11 in NY (and 711 for HD).
beatles6 09-11-06, 07:28 PM Inexplicably for the 3rd straight day TWC has failled to carry the YES HD telecast of the Yankees vs Orioles game from Baltimore. Tonight I am watching the YES HD feed on Direct TV channel 95 and have confirmation that Cablevision is carrying the game. Although difficult, I can accept TWC not carrying HD channels such as Starz, Cinemax and ESPN 2 HD but to derprive its subscribers of YES HD, a channel they have a contract to carry is inexcusable!!
Inexplicably for the 3rd straight day TWC has failled to carry the YES HD telecast of the Yankees vs Orioles game from Baltimore.
Agree! This is not right. At the least we should be getting what we’ve been promised and if not—give us an explanation. The Baltimore series was an “away” series that was scheduled in HD.
I hope that we get the “through a dirty fish bowl" lookin' MY9 broadcasts in HD like the rest of the world but I’m not going to plan a tapas party around it. :rolleyes:
Paul Chiu 09-12-06, 11:04 AM ESPN-HD has been showing HD footage with the YES logo during the Baltimore series, so it appears to be a TWC-NYC screw up.
Paul
Agree! This is not right. At the least we should be getting what we’ve been promised and if not—give us an explanation. The Baltimore series was an “away” series that was scheduled in HD.
I hope that we get the “through a dirty fish bowl" lookin' MY9 broadcasts in HD like the rest of the world but I’m not going to plan a tapas party around it. :rolleyes:
TonyNYC 09-12-06, 11:55 AM Only problem with MTV in HD would be if the programming consisted of other stuff besides music videos. MTV 1 in the 90's became mostly talkshows and less videos. Now MTV 2 is mostly talk/reality shows and less video. Now you need MTV Hits and Jams which RCN currently carries but TWC does not that shows actual video content as a majority.
I wish there could just be an all video channel and no talk shows. :(
I wish there could just be an all video channel and no talk shows. :(
Kind of like radio these days, do you remember when you could turn the radio on in the morning and hear music?
scott_bernstein 09-12-06, 12:23 PM Only problem with MTV in HD would be if the programming consisted of other stuff besides music videos. MTV 1 in the 90's became mostly talkshows and less videos. Now MTV 2 is mostly talk/reality shows and less video. Now you need MTV Hits and Jams which RCN currently carries but TWC does not that shows actual video content as a majority.
I wish there could just be an all video channel and no talk shows. :(
That's exactly what MHD is -- it's not a simulcast of MTV -- it is an all music video channel, and according to their press, it has no aspirations of being anything but.
Doesn't seem to be "random" music videos (like VH1 Classic) -- I think they mostly focus on Hi-def musical performance programming from the MTV, VH1, and CMT archives.
TonyNYC 09-12-06, 02:14 PM That's exactly what MHD is -- it's not a simulcast of MTV -- it is an all music video channel, and according to their press, it has no aspirations of being anything but.
Doesn't seem to be "random" music videos (like VH1 Classic) -- I think they mostly focus on Hi-def musical performance programming from the MTV, VH1, and CMT archives.
If they stick to that gameplan, I will enjoy the channel as I am sure alot of other views too.
Adamman100 09-12-06, 02:44 PM Let's not forget these channels that TWC corporate might be working on deals with:
MHD (Hi Def MTV music channel)
Food Network HD
National Geographic HD
I mean, look how quickly we got both TNT-HD and UHD after TWC worked out a corp. deal with them....
Personally, I'd most like Starz-HD, followed by Cinemax-HD and even MHD if they get a deal worked out (there's nothing like watching HD music events, and MHD gets to pick from the libraries of MTV, VH1, & CMT).
We /had/ PPV-HD (720), and TWC-NYC never scheduled any events for the channel except for a few boxing matches in HD, and then finally took it away....
And what about the NFL network in HD. That's a serious gaff. Remember that the NFL network will be carrying 8 games for the first time this year.
ChuvaKuhn 09-12-06, 03:01 PM I wonder if TWCNYC will provide two cable cards, if at all, for the new TIVO Series 3 HD recorder. It would be wonderful to use TIVO's great software again and record HD through cable. There are already threads in the TIVO forum that mentioned cable companies already refusing to provide cable cards for boxes. They will only do it for TVs.
http://www.tivo.com/2.0.boxdetails.asp?box=series3HDDVR
Veronica Mars WAS on WWOR (at the time UPN9). but was now brought along with a few other UPN shows and a bunch of WB shows to the New CW network, which will be on WPIX Channel 11 in NY (and 711 for HD).
That works just as well. No more BT for Veroncia. Got pretty good quality but in real HD, can't wait.
EricScott 09-12-06, 07:39 PM What do people think about the S3 Tivo. I totally want to get one but am concerned about a few things:
1) Getting cable card to work reliably - have heard horror stories about setup
2) Implementation of switched broadcasting would render the box useless AFAIK - is this likely in the near future
3) Upgradeability to multi-stream cable cards when they are available - think you will likely need to buy a new box, which isn't ideal
I'm not a big On Demand watcher so I don't really mind losing that functionality.
What do people think?
It's expensive but if it works reliably I would jump on it.
tsings31 09-12-06, 11:34 PM What do people think about the S3 Tivo. I totally want to get one but am concerned about a few things:
1) Getting cable card to work reliably - have heard horror stories about setup
2) Implementation of switched broadcasting would render the box useless AFAIK - is this likely in the near future
3) Upgradeability to multi-stream cable cards when they are available - think you will likely need to buy a new box, which isn't ideal
I'm not a big On Demand watcher so I don't really mind losing that functionality.
What do people think?
It's expensive but if it works reliably I would jump on it.
I would also like to purchase the S3, but my main concern is the whole SDV issue. I emailed TWCNYC Customer Support back in July, and they claimed that TWC had no plans on implementing SDV in the NYC area. But knowing how our beloved cable company operates, perhaps that statement should be taken with a grain of salt.
As far as multi-stream cards are concerned, the S3 is compatible and would not require the purchase of a new box.
holl_ands 09-13-06, 03:16 AM I would also like to purchase the S3, but my main concern is the whole SDV issue. I emailed TWCNYC Customer Support back in July, and they claimed that TWC had no plans on implementing SDV in the NYC area. But knowing how our beloved cable company operates, perhaps that statement should be taken with a grain of salt.
As far as multi-stream cards are concerned, the S3 is compatible and would not require the purchase of a new box.
Suggest you look at veggas list of "shortcomings", including my comment re SDV making many channels unavailable to Series 3 (whenever MSO decides to issue a 30-day notice to that effect--like TWC-SC did last December and again last month):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8418331#post8418331
TIVO website above only claims Series 3 works with one-way CableCARD and TIVO's very fuzzy press releases never specifically claimed it worked (in two-way mode) with M-CARDS:
http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_111.html
http://www.cablelabs.com/news/pr/2006/06_pr_tivo_dcr_040606.html
http://www.cablelabs.com/news/pr/2006/06_pr_mcard_sa_040606.html
Note that both of the above press releases are on the SAME DAY and that TIVO was certified to work only with CableCARD--not M-CARD.
(Although it is possibe that it may or may not have been certified with the S/A M-CARD in the backware compatible one-way CableCARD mode????)
Since OCAP software is still in development, I doubt that ANYONE has finished testing the new M-CARDs in either two-way or multi-stream modes--only in certification "test jigs".
Do you have any specific information from a credible source?????
Hi. I have a strange problem. I am trying to program my 8300HD to record "Jeopardy" daily, but it doesn't work. The listing appears on the "Series Manager", but not on the "Scheduled Recordings" list nor is it highlighted in red on the program guide. I've tried programming the recording on different channels in HD and SD, but it doesn't work. All my other scheduled recordings work fine, but not "Jeopardy". Any ideas? Can someone please try scheduling this program and let me know if it works for them? BTW, I have plenty of space on my 8300HD.
TIA...JL
Hi. I have a strange problem. I am trying to program my 8300HD to record "Jeopardy" daily, but it doesn't work. The listing appears on the "Series Manager", but not on the "Scheduled Recordings" list nor is it highlighted in red on the program guide. I've tried programming the recording on different channels in HD and SD, but it doesn't work. All my other scheduled recordings work fine, but not "Jeopardy". Any ideas? Can someone please try scheduling this program and let me know if it works for them? BTW, I have plenty of space on my 8300HD.
TIA...JL
I currently have Jeopardy as a series recording with no problem on channel 7. I can try tonight to cancel it and reschedule it.
By the way, just to reiterate for those that don’t know, Jeopardy (and the Wheel :rolleyes: ) is now in HD on 707.
A while ago, I had a similar problem for a series recording set up as you are having. I don’t recall what show it was but after making sure that I canceled the recordings-- both daily and on the series set up menu and then a hard reboot, solved the problem, enabling me to reschedule the series recordings.
EricScott 09-13-06, 10:23 AM Suggest you look at veggas list of "shortcomings", including my comment re SDV making many channels unavailable to Series 3 (whenever MSO decides to issue a 30-day notice to that effect--like TWC-SC did last December and again last month):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8418331#post8418331
TIVO website above only claims Series 3 works with one-way CableCARD and TIVO's very fuzzy press releases never specifically claimed it worked (in two-way mode) with M-CARDS:
http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_111.html
http://www.cablelabs.com/news/pr/2006/06_pr_tivo_dcr_040606.html
http://www.cablelabs.com/news/pr/2006/06_pr_mcard_sa_040606.html
Note that both of the above press releases are on the SAME DAY and that TIVO was certified to work only with CableCARD--not M-CARD.
(Although it is possibe that it may or may not have been certified with the S/A M-CARD in the backware compatible one-way CableCARD mode????)
Since OCAP software is still in development, I doubt that ANYONE has finished testing the new M-CARDs in either two-way or multi-stream modes--only in certification "test jigs".
Do you have any specific information from a credible source?????
So based on all of this, it sounds like you aren't running out to buy one :)
If it wasn't for the fact that I could transfer my lifetime for $200 now, I wouldn't even think of getting the S3 right away. Probably pays to wait anyway to get the box at a cheaper upfront cost from somewhere other than Tivo.com.
And SDV could be a total deal breaker for me. I can't see spending $1000 on something that very well could not work in a few months (or even a few years).
tsings31 09-13-06, 11:35 AM Do you have any specific information from a credible source?????
According to MegaZone's Series3 Review (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=315892):
There was also a close call. At first I thought that support for Multi-Stream CableCARDs may have been dropped. Unlike the prototype at CES, the production box doesn't mention Multi-Stream on the back of the unit. And it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the setup posted, the screens in the unit, etc. Finally, on page 102 of the Viewer's Guide, I found a mention of them. They are, indeed, supported. They're just not mentioned because they're not readily available at this time. I confirmed with TiVo that the support is in there. I'm glad I read the Viewer's Guide cover to cover.
What do people think about the S3 Tivo. I totally want to get one but am concerned about a few things:I’m sure you’ve been cruising the various threads regarding the new tivo but check
this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8420638#post8420638) maybe you might get additional answers to some questions too. :cool:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8420638#post8420638
A while ago, I had a similar problem for a series recording set up as you are having. I don’t recall what show it was but after making sure that I canceled the recordings-- both daily and on the series set up menu and then a hard reboot, solved the problem, enabling me to reschedule the series recordings.
Larry,
I took the "PC Tech Support" route and did a hard reboot by unplugging the 8300HD. After doing this, I can now schedule the "Jeopardy" recordings. I elected to record the SD version to save space. I catch it on 707 most nights, so this is just a back up. Rebooting also solved another problem. I had to "cancel" scheduled recording twice before they disappeared from the list. Since the reboot, the listing goes away the first time I cancel it. Thanks for your help.
Regards...JL
Riverside_Guy 09-13-06, 03:08 PM Putting aside what could be complete deal breaker issues regarding cable cards (i.e. assuming they worked perfectly AND I was willing to LOSE the functionality I have in the 8300 that doesn't exist in cable cards) I look at the capabilities vs. my 8300. AFAIK, the hardware has similar things, dual tuners, record in HD (one question, my 8300 can record 2 live channels while I watch one streaming, can the 3 do that?). So looking ONLY at UI and cost, I see one "feature" on the 3 I don't have, automatic recording by director. I think the 3 does more than 6 days of schedule. As for cost, I drop the 8.95 fee, but have to pay more for HDXtra, so I "save" 6 bucks/mo on cable, but have to spend 14/mo for a additional 8 bucks/mo for TiVo over TWC. Add in 800 hard ware cost and amortised over 36 months I get 28 bucks per month extra. No contest!
scott_bernstein 09-13-06, 05:30 PM Putting aside what could be complete deal breaker issues regarding cable cards (i.e. assuming they worked perfectly AND I was willing to LOSE the functionality I have in the 8300 that doesn't exist in cable cards) I look at the capabilities vs. my 8300. AFAIK, the hardware has similar things, dual tuners, record in HD (one question, my 8300 can record 2 live channels while I watch one streaming, can the 3 do that?). So looking ONLY at UI and cost, I see one "feature" on the 3 I don't have, automatic recording by director. I think the 3 does more than 6 days of schedule. As for cost, I drop the 8.95 fee, but have to pay more for HDXtra, so I "save" 6 bucks/mo on cable, but have to spend 14/mo for a additional 8 bucks/mo for TiVo over TWC. Add in 800 hard ware cost and amortised over 36 months I get 28 bucks per month extra. No contest!
But, you would HOPE that TIVO series 3 would not have the much beloved feature of the 8300HD whereby the DVR's audio and video skip for us every so often. ;)
The TIVO Ser. 3 is THX certified, so you'd hope that they've at least tested it enough to prove that it doesn't have skippage issues....
Scott
Slikkster 09-13-06, 05:53 PM Series 3? Just saw it was going for $800. Couple that with their $199 offer for current Series 2 owners with lifetime subscriptions to transfer over. Now, we're talking a cool $1000 for a Series 3. Seriously, is anyone going to actually say that the Series 3 is $1000 better than the 8300HD DVR? That is a serious stretch, in my opinion. What exactly would one get that is worth $1000 more than the rental for the DVR from TWC?
I'm no big fan of cable co's, but money's money. If the box were $300, I might be tempted. But $800? Sheesh...
Albert C. Lee 09-13-06, 10:54 PM Does TWCNYC still require truck rolls for Cablecards?
Im debating about dragging myself over to the 23rd St office, but the thought of standing in line for an hour sounds downright horrible.
Is anyone else experiencing audio dropouts and video freezes? Mine have increased - on both 8300HD dvrs - to at least 2/1 hour recorded show. Since it is occurring on both boxes, I don't think it is box-related. Any thoughts?
AndyHDTV 09-14-06, 01:32 AM Is anyone else experiencing audio dropouts and video freezes? Mine have increased - on both 8300HD dvrs - to at least 2/1 hour recorded show. Since it is occurring on both boxes, I don't think it is box-related. Any thoughts?
what channel, when?
The only time in noticed that is when I played back the documentary on HBO "when the levees broke" which I recorded days ago.
AndyHDTV 09-14-06, 01:38 AM Just saw the guide for 9/20, channel 712 @ 7:00
Devils vs. Rangers, Preseason
the only problem is I might not be home to see it, and since their's no programming on that channel from now to Wednesday, I can't schedule a recording.
Does TWCNYC still require truck rolls for Cablecards?
Im debating about dragging myself over to the 23rd St office, but the thought of standing in line for an hour sounds downright horrible.
I believe any CC issue (install/replscement) still requires a tech visit. Best to call CS to confirm.
Hope this helps...JL
Is anyone else experiencing audio dropouts and video freezes? Mine have increased - on both 8300HD dvrs - to at least 2/1 hour recorded show. Since it is occurring on both boxes, I don't think it is box-related. Any thoughts?
I've experienced this, mostly on the local HD channels. Channel 707 is probably the worse.
Regards...JL
Just saw the guide for 9/20, channel 712 @ 7:00
Devils vs. Rangers, Preseason
the only problem is I might not be home to see it, and since their's no programming on that channel from now to Wednesday, I can't schedule a recording.
I still have the series recording set up...
Only problem is, it can't kick in unless the box/guide is "updated" while the channel is active...
So does anyone know for sure what happens to bandwidth and quality when both 708 and 712 are active (which they will be next Wednesday)?
I've experienced this, mostly on the local HD channels. Channel 707 is probably the worse.
Thanks....that is exactly where my dropouts are occurring - on shows recorded from the local HD channels.
scott_bernstein 09-14-06, 02:05 PM Is anyone else experiencing audio dropouts and video freezes? Mine have increased - on both 8300HD dvrs - to at least 2/1 hour recorded show. Since it is occurring on both boxes, I don't think it is box-related. Any thoughts?
Soft boot (hold down the power button until it says "boot" on the LCD). If that doesn't help, try a hard boot (remove the power cable, let sit for a few minutes, plug back in).
This is a common issue, and regular rebooting really does help with this.
broadwayblue 09-14-06, 02:47 PM Just saw the guide for 9/20, channel 712 @ 7:00
Devils vs. Rangers, Preseason
the only problem is I might not be home to see it, and since their's no programming on that channel from now to Wednesday, I can't schedule a recording.
What can we do to get them to fix this? It's so stupid that it's still an issue at all. Why should this channel ever be unrecordable?
scott_bernstein 09-14-06, 03:00 PM What can we do to get them to fix this? It's so stupid that it's still an issue at all. Why should this channel ever be unrecordable?
Call and explain the issue. The first people you talk to won't have any clue. Ask to speak to a supervisor. Explain to them. They won't have a clue. Ask to speak to their supervisor....etc.
Eventually you'll get to a shift manager who'll either know about the problem or will put you in touch with an engineer (you might have to wait on a return call from them).
Then you're on your own. Maybe you can convince them that it's a real problem that they'll work on or not.
Also, politely email Bob Watson or Fred Dressler (I forget -- which one is the local rep, and which is the TWC corporate?) -- their addresses can be found back in this thread. They have a responsibility to be responsive to their customers, and actually have the power to direct someone to fix the problem.
Some people on this list were angry that there was some sort of "auto shutoff" that turned the YES network off after the game was supposed to be over, but occasionally cut the game off if it went VERY long. Their persistance in reporting the problem has resulted in TWC extending the window for the game beyond any imaginable expectation of game length.
Scott
What can we do to get them to fix this? It's so stupid that it's still an issue at all. Why should this channel ever be unrecordable?
Try to convince the phone rep to give you a tech person... and explain the situation to him very clearly... and make a suggestion to get rid of the "unrecordable" feature on a channel which is "locked"... or at least throw some simple code in to get rid of it for channels 708 ad 712... perhaps create a different status for them, as they aren't channels which are available to be purchased...)
dedicated 09-14-06, 09:41 PM Just new on the board here, so saying hi to everyone.
I recently moved to NYC and finally got my cable TV installed, what an ordeal. The salesperson recommended by our building was not knowledgeable at all, and he screwed up the order. So when the tech came today, he only brought the normal DVR, not the HD version. Since he didn't carry extras in his van, I trekked down to 23rd street and spent a good hour there.
Anyways, I got home and have my HD up and running. The curious thing is that for channel 706 and 709, it showed that I have to subscribe them. That's clearly not what's shown in the channel lineup, and I am paying for the HDExtra-DVR combo package. So I call TWC and they tell me that it's because nothing is broadcast at the moment. Skeptically, I let that go. My suspicions however, were confirmed later tonight when I went to those channels and they guide showed program information.
So should I call them again, or does nobody here get those channels? I searched on this thread quite a bit but didn't find any relevant info. Apologize if it's already been addressed
TIA
Paul Chiu 09-14-06, 09:56 PM Write down the serial code of the 8300HD box from the back, then call TWC and demand to talk to the HD group.
Tell them that your account is not activated for all the HD channels. Read them the serial of your 8300HD and demand that they send a signal over to your home and box. Do not allow them to hang up or call you back, just hold on until your get 706 (discover-HD 24/7) and 709 (Universal-HD 24/7). Both are not even HD-XTra channel for that $8.95 a month....
Paul
Just new on the board here, so saying hi to everyone.
I recently moved to NYC and finally got my cable TV installed, what an ordeal. The salesperson recommended by our building was not knowledgeable at all, and he screwed up the order. So when the tech came today, he only brought the normal DVR, not the HD version. Since he didn't carry extras in his van, I trekked down to 23rd street and spent a good hour there.
Anyways, I got home and have my HD up and running. The curious thing is that for channel 706 and 709, it showed that I have to subscribe them. That's clearly not what's shown in the channel lineup, and I am paying for the HDExtra-DVR combo package. So I call TWC and they tell me that it's because nothing is broadcast at the moment. Skeptically, I let that go. My suspicions however, were confirmed later tonight when I went to those channels and they guide showed program information.
So should I call them again, or does nobody here get those channels? I searched on this thread quite a bit but didn't find any relevant info. Apologize if it's already been addressed
TIA
scott_bernstein 09-15-06, 11:56 AM Anyways, I got home and have my HD up and running. The curious thing is that for channel 706 and 709, it showed that I have to subscribe them. That's clearly not what's shown in the channel lineup, and I am paying for the HDExtra-DVR combo package.
This is absolutely typical and if you page back through this thread, this situation happens everytime someone gets a new box, until a signal is sent to "reset" your box or about a week passes.
This is a blessing and a curse as you will randomly get some channels that you're not entitled to (check your premiums and PPV channels -- some that should be scrambled will not be -- You can even DVR the channels that you're not entitled to!), but you will also potentially have some channels blocked that you're entitled to (which may or may not be a big deal depending on which channels they are).
This situation will clear up on its own within a week if you do not do anything.
But if you want it cleared up immedialtey, you can have them (and they call it this) "send a signal" to your box which refreshes it from the head-end. You can also do with WITHOUT EVEN SPEAKING TO ANYONE through the phone, if you get into the automated menu (I forget how) that allows you to report a problem, there is an option in that menu to send the signal to your box w/o any human intervention.
Scott
Riverside_Guy 09-15-06, 04:13 PM But, you would HOPE that TIVO series 3 would not have the much beloved feature of the 8300HD whereby the DVR's audio and video skip for us every so often. ;)
The TIVO Ser. 3 is THX certified, so you'd hope that they've at least tested it enough to prove that it doesn't have skippage issues....
Scott
I don't think I'm ready to completely blame that on the 8300... I certainly have seen a lot of the same thing before I had ANY sort of DVR. Honestly, it was when I first switching to "DTV" that I started noticing breakups. I've also "experienced" situations where it sure as hell appeared to be a channel issue, like a certain movie is very bad, skipping all over the place, switch channels, no problem, switch back, problem, switch away problem gone.
Trying to remember back to the fog of... high school, I vaguely recall something about observation being a part of something called the scientific method... yeah, that's it.
scott_bernstein 09-15-06, 04:24 PM I don't think I'm ready to completely blame that on the 8300... I certainly have seen a lot of the same thing before I had ANY sort of DVR. Honestly, it was when I first switching to "DTV" that I started noticing breakups. I've also "experienced" situations where it sure as hell appeared to be a channel issue, like a certain movie is very bad, skipping all over the place, switch channels, no problem, switch back, problem, switch away problem gone.
I see what you're talking about, but I had an HD non-DVR box BEFORE I had the 8300, and the skipping was almost non-existant -- the picture would mess up or skip on rare occasions....
So I'm quite sure that the video/audio skipping are due to a malfuntion in the 8300HD. Going back a couple of years, the amount/frequency of skipping has varied greatly between different releases of the OS on the 8300HD.
This can easily be proven/disproven by someone who has both an 8300 HD and non-DVR HD box in their home.
miloroman 09-15-06, 05:21 PM I just added a new plasma to my home and I did not have a need for a DVR. I went to my local TWC branch (Mt. Vernon NY (part of TWC NY) for a HD cable box and was given the SA3250. I was very disappointed to discover that it does not have HDMI out, since my tv is wired in such a way that HDMI is the only way to get a high-def signal to it. Although I was able to pick up a DVI-HDMI adapter at Radio Shack and make an analog audio connection, I was wondering if there is a HD non-DVR box with HDMI that TWC has available, or if such a box is on the horizon.
Paul Chiu 09-15-06, 06:53 PM Milo,
I have several 3250HD and 8300HD boxes and the 3250HD is very capable. In fact, I prefer the DVI picture from the 3250HD over the HDMI picture of the 8300HD.
You do realize that the only thing you lose with DVI is the Audio portion if you use that DVI/HDMI cable. If that is very important to you, then go ask for the Pioneer 3510HD box with HDMI if they still carry it.
Paul
I just added a new plasma to my home and I did not have a need for a DVR. I went to my local TWC branch (Mt. Vernon NY (part of TWC NY) for a HD cable box and was given the SA3250. I was very disappointed to discover that it does not have HDMI out, since my tv is wired in such a way that HDMI is the only way to get a high-def signal to it. Although I was able to pick up a DVI-HDMI adapter at Radio Shack and make an analog audio connection, I was wondering if there is a HD non-DVR box with HDMI that TWC has available, or if such a box is on the horizon.
Time Warner Strikes Again...
YES-HD cuts out at 8:30 (since the guide thought game 1 today was on YES.... and not game 2 so the programming window was 1 to 8:30)..... spent 20 minutes on hold.... and then they tell me they'll get channel back up in 10-15 minutes....
Lets see what happens...
Time Warner Strikes Again...
YES-HD cuts out at 8:30 (since the guide thought game 1 today was on YES.... and not game 2 so the programming window was 1 to 8:30)..... spent 20 minutes on hold.... and then they tell me they'll get channel back up in 10-15 minutes....
Lets see what happens...
It's after 10... i just called again.... they said "we're working on it, and hope to get it back before the game ends"
beatles6 09-16-06, 10:19 PM It's after 10... i just called again.... they said "we're working on it, and hope to get it back before the game ends"
It stayed on in Staten island until 10:00. I can't believe these channels are governed by the program guide. TWC doesn't have a clue. The CSR said he would report the problem to his supervisor. I said while you're at it tell your supervisor you also forgot to carry 3 YES HD games from Baltimore last week. Unbelievable!! :mad:
teebeebee1 09-16-06, 10:56 PM I'm in a dark place.
About 3 weeks ago, i posted on here saying goodbye and that I would have directv in my new apt.
Well, since it was installed monday (5lnb HD DVR, the whole package), i've had 8 tech visits and have thusly cancelled my directv.
I'm convinced Directv is just not ready for HD programming, maybe I 'll try it again once the whole world is only broadcasting in HD but for now, trying to find anyone in NYC that knows how to set up a Directv 5lnb dish seems to be impossible. I just can't get it fixed up, i either get my HD channels or I get my FD channels (FD=Fuzzy regular tv :) )
TWC Tech is scheduled to come out on wednesday to rehook me up, so my fight to get NFL Network and ESPN2HD continues.
Ironically, the main reason i wanted directv was for espn2 hd. What was one of the 5 channels of 584 total that would not ever come in properly? ESPN 2 HD! Awesome! I've never felt so screwed over than i have by directv, its just beyond frustrating and i'm not really able to express my resentment of their lack of quality.
Thanks for letting me vent, and i'm back to cable :( If anyone knows anybody actually good at setting up a 5 lnb dish, let me know!
beatles6 09-16-06, 10:59 PM It's after 10... i just called again.... they said "we're working on it, and hope to get it back before the game ends"
What the f**K is there to work on!! You mean to tell me that a multi-million dollar cable operation doesn't have the technology to turn a channel on because the f**in program guide says there is not supposed to be anything there?? What a disgrace.
What the f**K is there to work on!! You mean to tell me that a multi-million dollar cable operation doesn't have the technology to turn a channel on because the f**in program guide says there is not supposed to be anything there?? What a disgrace.
They have the equipment but they don't have anyone who knows how it works.
That runs throughout the entire TWC cable monopoly. The lights are off and nobody's home.
Pathetic.
Newyorker 09-17-06, 08:27 AM I just got hook up to TWC and got 2 SA 3250s and 1 SA 8300HD. Everything looks great but the equipment they gave me was really banged up. Dents and missing legs on the bottom of the boxes. Is it common for TWC to give out old equipment?
They have the equipment but they don't have anyone who knows how it works.
That runs throughout the entire TWC cable monopoly. The lights are off and nobody's home.
Pathetic.
I am sooo f***ing sick & tired of dealing with this idiocy. Time Warner has been screwing up the YES-HD broadcasts all season. First the games were being cut off while still in progress, then there is the whole "Unrecordable Channel" nonsense so that if you have a DVR, you can't program the game to record in advance (you have to be home when the broadcast starts to set it to record which completely defeats the entire point of having a DVR...the ultimate in stupidity). On top of that, as you know there have been several games that were supposed to be shown in HD that weren't (of course Cablevision & DirecTV subscribers got to see them in HD, only us TWC suckers didn't get them. I guess those other companies have this strange custom of providing their customers with the actual service that they are paying for...they must have more valuable money than us).
My experience with Time Warner has been a Fuster-Cluck since day 1. Let's see, where can I start?...First they changed my hook-up appointment date, but they never bothered telling me about it, so I took the day off and then waited all-day for nothing. Then when they finally did show up a few days later, they did not have the equipment I ordered. I ordered a hook-up of 1 HD-DVR + 2 standard boxes (this was confirmed in advance 3 times over the phone with 2 different reps + 1 supervisor), they showed up with 1 standard cable box. They then sent out a QA supervisor with the other boxes, but he didn't bring the remote for the HD-DVR so I couldn't use any of the DVR functions. They had to send out another supervisor with the remote (I remember wondering if they really were in the business of hooking-up cable or if this was some sort of elaborate criminal front of some sort). Then when they hooked up my cable service, they inadvertently turned off my internet service (I was already a TWC internet customer, I was just trying to add cable TV to my existing service) not only did they turn it off, but some rocket scientist decided to completely close my account so even after they got the service back up, I couldn't access my e-mail accounts which I use to communicate with my business customers, this took them 48 hours to rectify. Once everything was hooked up, I had constant technical problems with the service which to this day they can't figure out how to fix (The techs have been to my house so many times I know the names of their kids). I have had repeated billing errors and as most of you already know (or soon will) when you try to call customer service for any of these issues, it is as if you are talking to a mentally challenged person who doesn't fully grasp the whole concept of using language to communicate.
Time Warner is pathetic, in fact they are pathetically pathetic. I honestly can't believe that they are able to function as a business with this degree of rampant incompetence throughout their organization. The only other option in my area is DirecTV and now that their new HD-DVR boxes are finally out, I will probably be switching soon (although I have been reading some discouraging things about these as well, and what's with the whole "lease" crap? ). To think, the main reason I purchased a HDTV in the first place is so that I could watch the Yankees in Hi-Def...seems like a simple enough concept right? What a joke :confused:
AndyHDTV 09-17-06, 01:09 PM Time Warner is pathetic, in fact they are pathetically pathetic.
wow, that was a bad story. Just gonna have to take it till Verizon comes along.
So the Yankee game this afternoon is on WWOR-HD.... of course not on Time Warner...
To make things worse, the is a feed on YES-HD (without commercials) for those systems with YES HD active 24/7.....
$#^$@%^@#$%%^^&$%#
AndyHDTV 09-17-06, 04:02 PM So the Yankee game this afternoon is on WWOR-HD.... of course not on Time Warner...
To make things worse, the is a feed on YES-HD (without commercials) for those systems with YES HD active 24/7.....
$#^$@%^@#$%%^^&$%#
I remember they did that one time last year, the game was on wwor but the HD feed was still on 708. During the time they were supposed to be showing commercials their was just various shots of the stadium with no commentary.
ramstone 09-18-06, 01:06 AM Hi. Around 1 AM my HD8300 powered off, and now there's a countodwn of sorts. It begins with "r", and counts down from 490 in hexidecimal.
Anyone care to enlighrten? Anything fun?
Hi. Around 1 AM my HD8300 powered off, and now there's a countodwn of sorts. It begins with "r", and counts down from 490 in hexidecimal.
Anyone care to enlighrten? Anything fun?
Sounds like you're getting a firmware update. Where are you located?
Riverside_Guy 09-18-06, 09:24 AM FWIW I have several times seen Yankee games listed on ESPN HD... but never actually saw one because other channels always had precedence. But game 2 yesterday seemed to be running on ESPN HD... huh?
magoo, that sounds terrible. You ARE entitled to a free month... I had an appointment totally missed and complained (without taking it out on the CSR, I mean no cursing or shouting) and eventually they comped me a full month.
FWIW I have several times seen Yankee games listed on ESPN HD... but never actually saw one because other channels always had precedence. But game 2 yesterday seemed to be running on ESPN HD... huh?
As always.... ESPN Sunday Night Baseball is a national exclusive telecast - no other network can show a game starting at 8pm.... and everyone gets the game, regardless of location.
magoo, that sounds terrible. You ARE entitled to a free month... I had an appointment totally missed and complained (without taking it out on the CSR, I mean no cursing or shouting) and eventually they comped me a full month.
Yeah, they gave me a free month for my troubles which was certainly a decent gesture, but the bottom line is they dropped the ball at just about every step of the process of hooking-up my service. I just can't for the life of me understand how a such a huge cable company could mess up so bad at their core function. I would have thought that after hooking up service for so many tens of thousands of customers (or is it millions?) that someone might be able to get one or two things done correctly by now. At one point during the debacle I described above I had 2 TWC supervisors and 1 tech in my home and one of the supervisor's turns to me with a straight face and says to me that "At Time Warner, quality customer service is considered our highest priority", I swear I honestly thought he was joking at first. When I realized he was serious, I said something like "no offense, but if that is the case, I hope you realize that you're failing miserably". He didn't seem to appreciate hearing the truth.
Regarding the YES situation this past Saturday night, geeze, I’m just beginning to calm down. :mad:
I called twice that night wasting about an hour. I spoke to two different CSRs, both clueless. I explained to them about the rain out and that FOX took the YES Saturday afternoon game and now the YES window is closed at 8:30 PM and we lost the HD feed.
On and on but it was like Charlie Brown's teacher- wahhhhh wah wah wah whahhh. :confused: Neither jerk would listen and understand. He was telling me to shut off my set and reboot and how a service call in two weeks would solve my problem. They suck!
HDTV-NUT 09-18-06, 01:10 PM Can anyone tell me the QAM channel numbers for the area.
Moving back to North Jersey soon and plan on picking up the QAM HD channels for the first few months until I get digital cable. Thanks
scott_bernstein 09-18-06, 01:15 PM Regarding the YES situation this past Saturday night, geeze, I’m just beginning to calm down. :mad:
I called twice that night wasting about an hour. I spoke to two different CSRs, both clueless. I explained to them about the rain out and that FOX took the YES Saturday afternoon game and now the YES window is closed at 8:30 PM and we lost the HD feed.
On and on but it was like Charlie Brown's teacher- wahhhhh wah wah wah whahhh. :confused: Neither jerk would listen and understand. He was telling me to shut off my set and reboot and how a service call in two weeks would solve my problem. They suck!
Remember -- the CSRs have supervisors. And eventually if you ask to speak to their supervisor's supervisor's supervisor, you'll probably get someone who knows what you're talking about.....
You just have to be patient, and talk to each one. If you ask to speak to a supervisor, they have to put you through to one; though you might wait on hold for a bit.
Remember -- the CSRs have supervisors. And eventually if you ask to speak to their supervisor's supervisor's supervisor, you'll probably get someone who knows what you're talking about.....
You just have to be patient, and talk to each one. If you ask to speak to a supervisor, they have to put you through to one; though you might wait on hold for a bit.
I gave you the “cliff notes” version but of course I tried to speak to a supervisor. Neither CSR would put me through to one. And for the record I was speaking very calm and rational to them. In fact my wife was sitting in the room reading something and was laughing at my patient coherent explanation of what was wrong, why it was and how to fix it- over and over and over.
The second CSR did try to transfer me to a supervisor. He left me on hold for a long while and then called me back while I was still holding (I was on my cell, he called me back on my house line) to see if the supervisor fixed the situation.
I never got through to a supervisor and I don't know if he was spinning my wheels by putting me on hold but I was surprised that he called me back. It could be because I took his name before he tried to transfer me.
The bottom line is that these CSRs, especially the weekend off hour ones, there only function is to appease the caller- not to solve any problem.
The Yankee game on Saturday night was shown on INHD channel 721 but blacked out by TWC, I don't get this blackouts, we're a paying a premium and we're forced to watch it on SD.
The Yankee game on Saturday night was shown on INHD channel 721 but blacked out by TWC, I don't get this blackouts, we're a paying a premium and we're forced to watch it on SD.
I agree, why tease us with the program guide and not show us the game but that’s the way it is. YES network owns the exclusive rights to broadcast the Saturday night Yankees game in our area. If we get the INHD broadcast that would be commercial revenue taken away from YES. This all makes sense but is frustrating. It’s all about who owns the broadcast rights. My gripe is- update the damn program guide.
TMSKILZ 09-18-06, 07:06 PM Anyone catch the local NBC News on 704 in HD?
I just watch the 5:30pm showing, & even though it was just the news, it is so good to finally see them in HD, now to see if the other local Ch's follow NBC!
BTW Sue Simmons (NBC Anchor woman) still looks butt ugly! even in HD!
TonyNYC 09-19-06, 08:28 AM BTW Sue Simmons (NBC Anchor woman) still looks butt ugly! even in HD!
This made me choke on my morning coffee. :D
I've been trying to get TWC to come and survey my apartment (they gave me some story about not knowing what type of apartment I'm in and so they need to come and survey) for over a week now and I haven't received a phoen call or anything. I've been without cable and internet at home for the past week and a half and it's becoming really annoying. Is there any way to speed htis process along or is this normal? I'm trying to GIVE them money and it's like they don't even care.
I might just go the satellite route if I don't get a call in the next few days. I'm in Queens btw.
TMSKILZ 09-19-06, 03:32 PM This made me choke on my morning coffee. :D
Hehehe! Hopefully you didn't ruin your work clothes.
TonyNYC 09-19-06, 03:34 PM Hehehe! Hopefully you didn't ruin your work clothes.
Nah! But it did make my coworker laugh at the result. :)
I've been trying to get TWC to come and survey my apartment (they gave me some story about not knowing what type of apartment I'm in and so they need to come and survey) for over a week now and I haven't received a phoen call or anything. I've been without cable and internet at home for the past week and a half and it's becoming really annoying. Is there any way to speed htis process along or is this normal? I'm trying to GIVE them money and it's like they don't even care.
I might just go the satellite route if I don't get a call in the next few days. I'm in Queens btw.
That's ridiculous. You need to call the people listed below and explain the above in detail. That will get you a response from TWC.
Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications (DOITT)
Telecommunications and Cable Television Division
11 MetroTech Center, 3rd Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
718-403-1200
-Mike
Hello,
My new plasma TV will arive this week and I need some kind of HDTV source. The problem is there is so many and I am clueless in this area, I live in Dyker Heights/Bensonhurst area, Brooklyn, NY . Please advise which company is good for HD viewing, I guess which has more HD channels? We had standard TV channels with Time Warner, then just recently updated to Direct TV with Verizon. Just want to know what are the best choices and options are. Thanks.
-Nuriko
holl_ands 09-19-06, 05:34 PM It's all summarized in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=419472
Dish and Verizon's Fibre-Optic FiOS-TV have the most HD channels.
coneyparleg 09-20-06, 10:23 AM That's ridiculous. You need to call the people listed below and explain the above in detail. That will get you a response from TWC.
Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications (DOITT)
Telecommunications and Cable Television Division
11 MetroTech Center, 3rd Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
718-403-1200
-Mike
They also have a website,it was listed some ways back on this thread, I've used it a few times and got fast responses from TWC and an "I'm sorry" letter from TWC.
I also like to add to my specific complaints that TWC is not providing a bunch of available HD channels and list the one not available. This seems to particularly rub TWC in a harsh way as it puts that fact on record.
Riverside_Guy 09-20-06, 10:25 AM Either satellite service or FIOS is not generally available in NYC. First, I don't think FIOS is available anywhere just yet (it's "coming" in a bunch of neighborhoods, and may be available in Staten Island, but nowhere in Manhattan is it available). Satellite can be had, but only in very limited circumstances, generally having to do with line of sights to the appropriate satellite and/or issues with mounting antennas on buildings.
And any "the most available" needs to be tempered by "at what cost."
JR_in_NYC 09-20-06, 10:31 AM Well finally I get to use my new Sony KDF-46E2000 to watch HD Hockey games. So tonights preseason hockey game is on channel 712. Unfortunately I won't be around for the start of the game. I just tried to program my SA 8300HD to record the game, but it won't let me. It's saying that channel 712 is a non recordable channel. WTF?!?! Why can't I record this. The same game is being broadcasted on channel 27 MSG. This seems really ridiculous. Is there a way to disable this by calling TW? It's not like it's a pay-per-view channel. Any one else have any expierience with this? Thanks, I'd appreciate it.
They also have a website,it was listed some ways back on this thread, I've used it a few times and got fast responses from TWC and an "I'm sorry" letter from TWC.
I also like to add to my specific complaints that TWC is not providing a bunch of available HD channels and list the one not available. This seems to particularly rub TWC in a harsh way as it puts that fact on record.
DOITT complaint form (http://www.nyc.gov/html/doitt/html/consumer/consumer_cable_service_form.shtml)
Filling out this form guarantees a response from TWCNYC within a few days.
Well finally I get to use my new Sony KDF-46E2000 to watch HD Hockey games. So tonights preseason hockey game is on channel 712. Unfortunately I won't be around for the start of the game. I just tried to program my SA 8300HD to record the game, but it won't let me. It's saying that channel 712 is a non recordable channel. WTF?!?! Why can't I record this. The same game is being broadcasted on channel 27 MSG. This seems really ridiculous. Is there a way to disable this by calling TW? It's not like it's a pay-per-view channel. Any one else have any expierience with this? Thanks, I'd appreciate it.
There are many posts regarding this. Essentially, channel 712 needs to be "on" and have an actual program airing for you to be able to schedule a recording. Very frustrating to many of us.
JR_in_NYC 09-20-06, 10:41 AM There are many posts regarding this. Essentially, channel 712 needs to be "on" and have an actual program airing for you to be able to schedule a recording. Very frustrating to many of us.
What BS. The channel guide tells me the game is on at 7PM. Let me try calling that number on the off channel 712 to see what TW has to say.
JR_in_NYC 09-20-06, 11:01 AM What BS. The channel guide tells me the game is on at 7PM. Let me try calling that number on the off channel 712 to see what TW has to say.
BAH, got some run around that the network won't allow recording of it. Lies.
BAH, got some run around that the network won't allow recording of it. Lies.
We've disected this problem in detail over the last year or so...
Currently there isn't anything that can be done about it... The first game isn't going to happen for you.. but its preseason - you'll have a chance to set up a "season" recording tonight...
Of course, then you need to make sure you update your guide when the channel is "active".
It sucks - and they don't care....
We've disected this problem in detail over the last year or so...
Currently there isn't anything that can be done about it... The first game isn't going to happen for you.. but its preseason - you'll have a chance to set up a "season" recording tonight...
Of course, then you need to make sure you update your guide when the channel is "active".
It sucks - and they don't care....
And I would add...
be advised, when recording these channels- 708 or 712, the show time window is open for several hours. If you have unprotected recordings or low disc space- you’re going to have problems.
It might be wise to set up a manual recording (for how long you expect the game to last). This isn't foolproof either but at least you don’t tie up unused hours and zap your other recordings. :cool:
It's all summarized in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=419472
Dish and Verizon's Fibre-Optic FiOS-TV have the most HD channels.
Thanks for the link, it is very helpful. I'll try to see what is available from these options.
demonscars 09-20-06, 03:45 PM Larry,
I took the "PC Tech Support" route and did a hard reboot by unplugging the 8300HD. After doing this, I can now schedule the "Jeopardy" recordings. I elected to record the SD version to save space. I catch it on 707 most nights, so this is just a back up. Rebooting also solved another problem. I had to "cancel" scheduled recording twice before they disappeared from the list. Since the reboot, the listing goes away the first time I cancel it. Thanks for your help.
Regards...JL
I just had this same problem except with Grey's Anatomy. It was like it was cancelling itself. I think they did some kind of software upgrade that caused this because there's a few things that are different.
timewaster 09-20-06, 10:47 PM I'm running into a weird problem.
I'm trying to record the HD version of Grey's Anatomy and six degrees for tomorrow night Channel 707.
but when I try for either i get the message "You cannot schedule overlapping recordings on the same channel" even though I don't have anything else being recorded that night.
I am able to record other shows during the same time slot, just not 707. I can even record channel 7.
Anybody else have this problem?
Can someone check to see if they can record either one?
(Im in NYC btw)
teebeebee1 09-20-06, 11:44 PM Welcome back to TWC
I just got hooked back up, got home and all my HD packaged channels (ESPNHD, INHD, etC) were gone, so i called to get it fixed.
The girl sent a signal, nothing showed up so she told me "Ya, it can sometimes take up to 3 days for the programming to come in"
THREE DAYS! WOW, i sure missed cable.
I told her i would not accept such a BS excuse, and asked for a supervisor, nothing , i was on hold for 20 min.
Called back and got a good rep named Jenny, she had it fixed in 5 min. How are people so freaking retarded!
I love you Jenny
margoba 09-21-06, 01:37 AM I'm running into a weird problem.
I'm trying to record the HD version of Grey's Anatomy and six degrees for tomorrow night Channel 707.
but when I try for either i get the message "You cannot schedule overlapping recordings on the same channel" even though I don't have anything else being recorded that night.
I am able to record other shows during the same time slot, just not 707. I can even record channel 7.
Anybody else have this problem?
Can someone check to see if they can record either one?
(Im in NYC btw)
I'm in NYC too, and it works fine for me. I'm set up to record both Gray's Anatomy (2 separate 1 hour episodes) and then Six Degrees. No problems.
-barry
Paul Chiu 09-21-06, 08:37 AM Have you check for disk space?
Perhaps your DVR is near full.
Paul
I'm running into a weird problem.
I'm trying to record the HD version of Grey's Anatomy and six degrees for tomorrow night Channel 707.
but when I try for either i get the message "You cannot schedule overlapping recordings on the same channel" even though I don't have anything else being recorded that night.
I am able to record other shows during the same time slot, just not 707. I can even record channel 7.
Anybody else have this problem?
Can someone check to see if they can record either one?
(Im in NYC btw)
I'm running into a weird problem.
I'm trying to record the HD version of Grey's Anatomy and six degrees for tomorrow night Channel 707.
but when I try for either i get the message "You cannot schedule overlapping recordings on the same channel" even though I don't have anything else being recorded that night.
I am able to record other shows during the same time slot, just not 707. I can even record channel 7.
Anybody else have this problem?
Can someone check to see if they can record either one?
(Im in NYC btw)
Plan A
Do it all over again from the beginning. Make sure you cancel the recordings. With the newer passport version you have to cancel it twice. Then to be sure that there is no other glitch, reboot. After the system comes on try and reset the shows. I would be surprised if this didn’t solve it.
Plan B
The only other thing it could be is if the program guide is screwed up and has both shows overlapping. The solution for this would be to record the 9 PM show, GA and extend it for an extra hour, giving you both shows.
scott_bernstein 09-21-06, 12:30 PM Plan A
Do it all over again from the beginning. Make sure you cancel the recordings. With the newer passport version you have to cancel it twice. Then to be sure that there is no other glitch, reboot. After the system comes on try and reset the shows. I would be surprised if this didn’t solve it.
Plan B
The only other thing it could be is if the program guide is screwed up and has both shows overlapping. The solution for this would be to record the 9 PM show, GA and extend it for an extra hour, giving you both shows.
...or sometimes the station schedules things to start at 8:01 or 7:59 PM on odd occasions.
Also, there is the old Daylight Savings Time bug -- if you scheduled an 8pm recording before the time-change in the spring, it will really think that it's supposed to record at 7pm (even though it says 8pm), or something like that.
LL3HD -- speaking of, how are you finding the newer Passport version? We (or at least, I, in southern Manhattan) STILL don't have it here in Manhattan.
andrewjnyc 09-21-06, 12:49 PM Plan A
Do it all over again from the beginning. Make sure you cancel the recordings. With the newer passport version you have to cancel it twice. Then to be sure that there is no other glitch, reboot. After the system comes on try and reset the shows. I would be surprised if this didn’t solve it.
Plan B
The only other thing it could be is if the program guide is screwed up and has both shows overlapping. The solution for this would be to record the 9 PM show, GA and extend it for an extra hour, giving you both shows.
There's also a Plan C--I believe ABC is rebroadcasting the Grey's premiere tomorrow night at 8pm.
... speaking of, how are you finding the newer Passport version? We (or at least, I, in southern Manhattan) STILL don't have it here in Manhattan.
There are some noticeable things that are different or maybe better.
When recording something (like the Yankees) and it’s more than an hour into the recording and I put it on to watch from the beginning- it actually goes to the beginning as opposed to that instant live screw up. I no longer have that buffer problem, where I had to stop the recording and restart it in order to watch it.
There is also the ability to hook up the external drive which is the most intriguing feature but I haven’t attempted that yet. I’m watching and waiting on the sidelines observing how other more savvy members are de-kinking the storage quagmire.
adelmams 09-21-06, 03:37 PM Hey everybody, sorry for the NOOBY question. I just got TWC hooked up with the 8300HD yesterday. When I settled in last night to watch the HD programming I noticed I am not getting most of the local networks, just a blank grey screen (I think I am getting only CBS). I called TWC and made an appointment to have tech come next week, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do myself and save myself a day of waiting around for a technition.
Thanks
mike
scott_bernstein 09-21-06, 03:53 PM Hey everybody, sorry for the NOOBY question. I just got TWC hooked up with the 8300HD yesterday. When I settled in last night to watch the HD programming I noticed I am not getting most of the local networks, just a blank grey screen (I think I am getting only CBS). I called TWC and made an appointment to have tech come next week, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do myself and save myself a day of waiting around for a technition.
Thanks
mike
I don't think there's anything you can do to avoid a technition at this point. My guess is that you might not be getting a strong/clear enough signal.
Note (if you scroll back a bit) that you're probably getting some channels that you might not be entitled to at this point....for a week or so, some channels will be enabled that you might not subscribe to, and others might be disabled (i.e. you'll see a screen that says you need to call to subscribe to the channel in question) that you are entitled to....then it'll fix itself. If you find a channel that you want to see is blocked, you can have them send a signal to your box that will refresh it properly.
Hey everybody, sorry for the NOOBY question. I just got TWC hooked up with the 8300HD yesterday. When I settled in last night to watch the HD programming I noticed I am not getting most of the local networks, just a blank grey screen (I think I am getting only CBS). I called TWC and made an appointment to have tech come next week, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do myself and save myself a day of waiting around for a technition.
Thanks
mike
Normally on a new installation, before the billing codes kick in, you can get some channels that you didn't order and lose some that you did order. It can take a couple of days. If you want this to happen immediately you can call the TWC office and ask them to send a signal to your box that will (probably) get you what you ordered. You will only need a service call if that doesn't work or the billing codes don't kick in automatically.
-Mike
Paul Chiu 09-21-06, 05:11 PM You can also write down the Serial number on the back of the box and call TWC service and demand that they reset your box from their end. Demand that you stay on the phone while they do this. I had this done when I got my 8300HD box recently and I was missing some channels...
Paul
Normally on a new installation, before the billing codes kick in, you can get some channels that you didn't order and lose some that you did order. It can take a couple of days. If you want this to happen immediately you can call the TWC office and ask them to send a signal to your box that will (probably) get you what you ordered. You will only need a service call if that doesn't work or the billing codes don't kick in automatically.
-Mike
timewaster 09-21-06, 06:22 PM Plan A
Do it all over again from the beginning. Make sure you cancel the recordings. With the newer passport version you have to cancel it twice. Then to be sure that there is no other glitch, reboot. After the system comes on try and reset the shows. I would be surprised if this didn’t solve it.
Plan B
The only other thing it could be is if the program guide is screwed up and has both shows overlapping. The solution for this would be to record the 9 PM show, GA and extend it for an extra hour, giving you both shows.
Thanks.
That was very weird.
For some reason the 9PM Grey's Anatomy was in Black (usually means recording conflict) eventhough I had nothing being recorded at all on Thursday.
rebooted the box and cancel the recordings of both fro the List menu (for some reason was not able to cancel the recording from the TV Guide).
Must've been a weird glitch.
broadwayblue 09-22-06, 10:13 AM I heard a rumor that TWC will be adding MSGHD on October 5th. Anyone heard about this? I'm hoping it's legit. That would solve a lot of recording problems.
AndyHDTV 09-22-06, 10:45 AM I heard a rumor that TWC will be adding MSGHD on October 5th. Anyone heard about this? I'm hoping it's legit. That would solve a lot of recording problems.
Where did u hear this rumor?
I dont think MSG has any other HD programming other than the home games, pre & post game shows.
Hopefully they will have 24/7 HD channel because SNY is making them look bad.
I read somewhere a while back that YES will have a 24/7 HD channel in April, so maybe MSG is making moves.
broadwayblue 09-22-06, 11:51 AM Where did u hear this rumor?
I dont think MSG has any other HD programming other than the home games, pre & post game shows.
Hopefully they will have 24/7 HD channel because SNY is making them look bad.
I read somewhere a while back that YES will have a 24/7 HD channel in April, so maybe MSG is making moves.
Nothing that I can verify as credible. As you say, I don't see MSG as the most sensible addition as a full time channel. There are at least a half dozen channels that have so much more HD coverage it does seem odd that this would happen.
Paul Chiu 09-22-06, 11:58 AM Any other rumor HD Channels? MAX, TMC, Playboy?
MikeNY718 09-22-06, 08:14 PM It seems that TWC has quietly removed the analog versions of TMC and Cinemax this week. Channels 66 and 69 have disappeared from my program guide, and sure enough when I went to TWC's website, they have both been deleted from the lineup.
However, no new channels have been added. This does confirm the reports earlier in the year that Bob Watson claimed they would start phasing out analog premiums by year's end. Though I seem to remember that the analog international channels would go first.
Any speculation as to what happens next?
It seems that TWC has quietly removed the analog versions of TMC and Cinemax this week. Channels 66 and 69 have disappeared from my program guide, and sure enough when I went to TWC's website, they have both been deleted from the lineup.
However, no new channels have been added. This does confirm the reports earlier in the year that Bob Watson claimed they would start phasing out analog premiums by year's end. Though I seem to remember that the analog international channels would go first.
Any speculation as to what happens next?
This did not happen in Manhattan...so far. I don't understand how TWC can just disappear two premium channels that people pay them extra for. If they did that without telling anyone who pays them, it goes all the way to criminal.
-Mike
Riverside_Guy 09-23-06, 09:57 AM Mike, both those "channels" were repeated in the 200 series, so if 66 and 69 "go" it isn't that big a deal (HBO has 80 and 201). So, these channels are the ones that are available to people who still have analog only service. Just checked, yes in Manhattan this has not happened yet.
The pricing is interesting (this happened to my parents). They had decided to get HBO a while back. They had an "analog" account, even though the box was digital capable. So they ONLY got HBO on one single channel, 80. Normally, one gets multiple channels for each "premium." For a LONG while I tried to get them to just call TWC and change their service. Now we all know that TWC has a "digital" tier that costs extra. However, for them, the delta cost was within .50 cents/month!
Mike, both those "channels" were repeated in the 200 series, so if 66 and 69 "go" it isn't that big a deal (HBO has 80 and 201). So, these channels are the ones that are available to people who still have analog only service. Just checked, yes in Manhattan this has not happened yet.
The pricing is interesting (this happened to my parents). They had decided to get HBO a while back. They had an "analog" account, even though the box was digital capable. So they ONLY got HBO on one single channel, 80. Normally, one gets multiple channels for each "premium." For a LONG while I tried to get them to just call TWC and change their service. Now we all know that TWC has a "digital" tier that costs extra. However, for them, the delta cost was within .50 cents/month!
I would guess that there are literally thousands of analog boxes in this city, some of which are subscribed to premium channels that they receive below the 200 series. I guess TWC could simply give analog premium subscribers a digital box and give them access to that which they already pay for--but if they just remove those channels without any word or action at all it's another story. I think TWC should be smart enough to know which premium channel subscribers have a digital box and which don't--assuming they even care.
The cheapest DTV package (that includes a box that can access the 200-series and internet) is $79.90. The premiums go on top of that fee. This may not be true for many contributors to this thread, but a lot of people have 27 inch analog TV sets and dial-up AOL and don't want that deal.
teebeebee1 09-23-06, 03:52 PM Anyone else getting ABCHD problems? The OSU/PennSt game just started and it's breaking up all ove the place, seems to be the only channel from what i've checked
AndyHDTV 09-23-06, 04:35 PM Anyone else getting ABCHD problems? The OSU/PennSt game just started and it's breaking up all ove the place, seems to be the only channel from what i've checked
seems to be alright now, did see some breakups earlier.
AndyHDTV 09-23-06, 04:47 PM I honestly didn't even know that TWC had any Premium movies channels still available in analog.
But If their getting rid of them borough by borough, good.
I can care less about Basic & Standard cable analog subscribers, I guess I'm sellfish.
If this is really what's happening, I can only hope that the info I received about more HD before years end on our system comes true.
The fact that ESPN2-HD is staying on systems that have since been taken over by TWC from Adelphia, gives me hope that they're working on adding channels.
I just got my bill, and no info about additions or subtractions.
Check yours.
teebeebee1 09-23-06, 05:44 PM seems to be alright now, did see some breakups earlier.
Ya, ABCHD still wigging out here, brutal, my first football weekend with cable, woe is me :)
teebeebee1 09-24-06, 12:08 AM Actually most my HD Locals wiggin out now, pisses me off lol, i have no luck
Anyone else? tell me someone is having probs, ABC/NBC breaking up
MikeNY718 09-24-06, 01:16 AM I would guess that there are literally thousands of analog boxes in this city, some of which are subscribed to premium channels that they receive below the 200 series. I guess TWC could simply give analog premium subscribers a digital box and give them access to that which they already pay for--but if they just remove those channels without any word or action at all it's another story. I think TWC should be smart enough to know which premium channel subscribers have a digital box and which don't--assuming they even care.
The cheapest DTV package (that includes a box that can access the 200-series and internet) is $79.90. The premiums go on top of that fee. This may not be true for many contributors to this thread, but a lot of people have 27 inch analog TV sets and dial-up AOL and don't want that deal.
There is no reason why anyone should still be on analog. Anyone who is happy with their dial-up AOL can simply order a digital package without internet. The Digital Starter Pak is only $49.95, which is the same as what Basic + Standard + a box costs with analog, so analog customers can move to digital for NO EXTRA COST. And I'm sure TWC notified analog customers with Cinemax and TMC beforehand that the channels were being moved to digital.
All of these analog channels are hogging bandwidth that multiple digital channels can fit in. TWC should be doing everything to get these remaining customers moved to digital and reclaim that bandwidth. This, apparently, is a start.
BTW, I see on TWC's website that they are still listed for Manhattan, so they must be phasing them out one borough at a time.
teebeebee1 09-24-06, 02:59 PM Anyone in Forest Hills/REgo park having local HD Channels still this afternoon? This f'n thing
EDIT: So i tested the box in the other room, coming in perfectly, my new apt living is cursed, the cable must be all messed up or something :(
AndyHDTV 09-24-06, 10:51 PM I think this is the next software upgrade
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nebraska/products/cable/mdn/mdn_intro.html
AndyHDTV 09-25-06, 03:43 AM Just out of Curiosity, Does anybody have a analog box or know someone with it?
And if so, did they receive 66 & 69? (TMC & MAX)
Do they no longer receive 66 & 69?
cap_167 09-25-06, 10:42 AM I know someone who has the analog box and they have yet to remove the channels in upper Manhattan.
There is no reason why anyone should still be on analog. Anyone who is happy with their dial-up AOL can simply order a digital package without internet. The Digital Starter Pak is only $49.95, which is the same as what Basic + Standard + a box costs with analog, so analog customers can move to digital for NO EXTRA COST. And I'm sure TWC notified analog customers with Cinemax and TMC beforehand that the channels were being moved to digital.
All of these analog channels are hogging bandwidth that multiple digital channels can fit in. TWC should be doing everything to get these remaining customers moved to digital and reclaim that bandwidth. This, apparently, is a start.
BTW, I see on TWC's website that they are still listed for Manhattan, so they must be phasing them out one borough at a time.
Are there still analog channels with the digital package. Basically, if I plug the cable wire directly in my (cable ready) tv or Tivo without the box, what will I get? Will I get the analog channels?
Are there still analog channels with the digital package. Basically, if I plug the cable wire directly in my (cable ready) tv or Tivo without the box, what will I get? Will I get the analog channels?
If you plug the cable directly into your TV you'll get a handful of channels ... most of the channels under 10 and a few random other ones. That's only because everything else is scrambled ... they're still analog.
Almost every channel under 100 is still analog, and even with a digital box you're still getting analog channels.
If you plug the cable directly into your TV you'll get a handful of channels ... most of the channels under 10 and a few random other ones. That's only because everything else is scrambled ... they're still analog.
Almost every channel under 100 is still analog, and even with a digital box you're still getting analog channels.
I was asking because I was wondering if I could use the Tivo Series 2 Dual Tuner. I know that the dual tuner part only works on analog cable channels but I thought that channels had to be unscrambled (ie can be seen by simply sticking the cable into the Tivo). By any chance do you know if the Tivo can unscramble those channels? At least the analog ones from 1-99.
unclelev 09-25-06, 11:46 AM I recently hooked up my 8300hd box via hdmi and component cables. I am using time warner here in nyc. After a week or so, I am noticing that the picture and audio signal blanks out (creen goes black for a split second) every so often while watching NBC HD and other local HD channels. Anyone else have this problem? If so, any solutions? It seems like this only occurrs when watching via hdmi. Also how do I know if my box has the latest firmware? maybe it needs an update. any help is appreciated...
TMSKILZ 09-25-06, 12:30 PM I think this is the next software upgrade
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nebraska/products/cable/mdn/mdn_intro.html
Nice find Andy. This new Navigator system sounds really good, 100% improvement over what TWC is offering now, looking forward to it.
scott_bernstein 09-25-06, 03:47 PM Also how do I know if my box has the latest firmware? maybe it needs an update. any help is appreciated...
You don't have any choice as to what firmware your box has installed. The head-end will automatically push out an update if your box is out-of-date, and there is no way for you to update the firmware on your own.
TMSKILZ 09-25-06, 11:26 PM While checking out my monthly billing statement on TWC website, I came across this link there. It's a "fact vs Myth" page talking about the NFL Network & TWC current battle.
Basically TWC states they want to offer the NFL Network as a sports package, so that only those customers who want to pay for this expensive programming have an option, as oppose to the NFL Network wanting it to be added as a regular channel for all customers. TWC claims if they agree to NFL Network, it will cost all the TWC customers as the monthly bill would be raised.
I don't know who to believe, TWC has a sports package agreement with the other major sports, so the NFL is looking very greedy here, but either way, we the paying customer are getting screwed.
here's the link....
http://www.nflgetreal.com/mythvsfact.php
broadwayblue 09-26-06, 12:24 AM and just how does one find himself searching the Nebraska TWC website anyhow?
I was asking because I was wondering if I could use the Tivo Series 2 Dual Tuner. I know that the dual tuner part only works on analog cable channels but I thought that channels had to be unscrambled (ie can be seen by simply sticking the cable into the Tivo). By any chance do you know if the Tivo can unscramble those channels? At least the analog ones from 1-99.
The tivo can't unscramble the channels unfortunately. When I moved to nyc a couple years ago I had a Series 2 Tivo with me. Wanted to be able to plug it into the cable directly, but I was only getting the networks and a few other channels (oddly the food network was one, if I remember right). Maybe 12 channels total.
I ended up buying an HDTV and upgrading to the HD DVR, and gave the Series 2 Tivo to my brother back in LA (where the first hundred analog channels aren't scrambled). He's been using it ever since.
Wish there was better news, but that's the problem. Considered getting a black box just to unscramble the analogs and keep the tivo around (felt ok about it because I was already paying for two digital boxes at the time and I wouldn't have been getting any channels I wasn't already paying for) but in the end the cost outweighed the benefits.
AndyHDTV 09-26-06, 12:58 PM and just how does one find himself searching the Nebraska TWC website anyhow?
actually I came across it as a link in the "HD recorders" section.
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shigaloo 09-26-06, 07:51 PM Hi guys,
I recently bought a Samsung HD ready TV and I am not sure if I need to get a receiver with QAM or OTA is enough. Is anybody in Norther NJ TWC area? What unencrypted HD channels do you get when you use QAM.
If TWC does not provide any unencrypted HD channels, I guess I dont have to spend extra for a QAM enabled receiver.
Suggestions please.
Thanks
Maybe a little late, but it should be of use to someone.
I just did a check of all the HD channels in north NJ TWC:
Channel net EIA src ID tune freq tune mode pg # vPID aPID status
701 HBO 00 07701 693.000 256 002 0x43 0x44 auth
702 CBS 00 07702 681.000 256 001 0x3e9 0x3ea clear
703 SHOW 00 07703 693.000 256 001 0x40 0x41 auth
704 NBC 00 07704 675.000 256 001 0x3e9 0x3ea clear
705 FOX 00 07705 669.000 256 002 0x3ee 0x3ef clear
706 DISC 00 10102 603.000 256 001 0x48 0x49 auth
707 ABC 00 07707 675.000 256 002 0x3ee 0x3ef clear
708 Special 00 60936 639.000 256 003 0x48 0x49 auth
709 UHD 00 07706 693.000 256 004 0x45 0x48 auth
710 TNT 00 10103 603.000 256 002 0x40 0x41 auth
711 WPIX 00 07709 669.000 256 003 0x3f3 0x3f4 clear
713 PBS 00 07713 681.000 256 002 0x3ee 0x3ef clear
721 INHD1 00 60934 639.000 256 001 0x40 0x41 auth
722 INHD2 00 60935 639.000 256 002 0x43 0x44 auth
723 HDM 00 60932 597.000 256 002 0x40 0x41 auth
724 HDN 00 60933 597.000 256 001 0x42 0x43 auth
725 ESPN 00 60929 597.000 256 003 0x44 0x45 auth
741 SNY 00 01450 633.000 256 001 0x40 0x41 auth
You should be able to tune all those with a "clear" in the last column. I am trying config an older fusion3 gold card so I wanted to double check.
I recently hooked up my 8300hd box via hdmi and component cables. I am using time warner here in nyc. After a week or so, I am noticing that the picture and audio signal blanks out (creen goes black for a split second) every so often while watching NBC HD and other local HD channels. Anyone else have this problem? If so, any solutions? It seems like this only occurrs when watching via hdmi. Also how do I know if my box has the latest firmware? maybe it needs an update. any help is appreciated...
Absolutely identical situation for me. There's a pronounced delay via the HDMI cable, while the component works much smoother. I have no =idea= why this is happening, but i'm glad i'm not the only one experiencing this annoying issue. Perhaps that's why the TWC cable guy, when he installed the 8300 box, used component cables and did NOT recommend HDMI to me.
Anyone else experiencing problems with ABC and NBC tonight? They've both lost signal. I'll get individual frames on each, occasionally, but mostly a grey screen. Fox has been glitching, but is at least watchable.
I'm on the UWS, and this is only happening to the 3 networks. CBS is fine, as are most of the other HD channels.
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