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"Time Warner Adds National Geographic HD In Hawaii
But the cable operator refuses to confirm that it will be added elsewhere.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (April 5, 2007) -- Time Warner Cable has added National Geographic HD to its high-def lineup in Hawaii.

The HD network, which can be found on channel 1347 on Oceanic Time Warner Cable, was launched on April 2, according to the company's Oahu office.

However, when asked this week if Time Warner had reached a national carriage agreement with National Geographic HD, the company's corporate spokespeople in Stamford, Connecticut wouldn't answer the question.
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Mark Harrad, Time Warner's senior vice president of corporate communications, referred TVPredictions.com's inquiry to Maureen Huff, another TW public relations official.

We then told Huff Wednesday morning in an e-mail that Time Warner had added National Geographic HD in Hawaii and asked if the cable operator had reached a carriage agreement.

She responded on Wednesday afternoon: "According to who?"

Huff did not return our subsequent e-mails and phone calls.

A spokesman for National Geographic HD said he did know if Time Warner was adding the channel. He said he could not reach anyone on Thursday to determine if it would be added.

National Geographic HD, which launched last year, is carried by EchoStar and several other cable operators. DIRECTV says it will add it full-time later this year.

Time Warner has approximately 400,000 customers in Hawaii."

Looks like they finally figured out to give us an HD signal on the channel.

We're waiting TWC NYC??? Here's a list of the channels that I know are missing from our system.

ESPN2 HD = Popping up everywhere
MHD = Only in selected areas
A&E HD = " " " " " " "
FSNY HD = " " " " " " "
VOD HD = " " " " " " "
NGC HD = So far only on Oceanic TWC

I used to get YES-HD back in the day, but I think its encyrpted now. Would love it if they broadcast it in the clear since it's not on a premium tier as far as I know.

I'm guessing he picked up TNT-HD on 93.2 - did a rescan today and picked that up along with MY9-HD on 93.1.

Along the same topic - does anyone have a current list of where the PPV and On-Demand channels are? I've been picking them up on 83-,84-, and 85- but I'm sure there must be others now.

Do you remember which freq YES was on?

Where are you picking up NBC-HD? My 1-4 is some "thetube" music channel. I want to watch Leno in HD. All my OTA HD's are accounted for except NBC. Any suggestions where to look?

Wait, you're receiving TheTube on QAM? Does this mean it's available on a TWC digital box? If so, what channel?

Ever since we got Time Warner, I've missed TheTube. It's got some good music.

Wait, you're receiving TheTube on QAM? Does this mean it's available on a TWC digital box? If so, what channel?

Ever since we got Time Warner, I've missed TheTube. It's got some good music.

TheTube is a WPIX sub-channel.

Its not assigned a channel for whatever reason, but is available on the box if you go into diagnostic mode and go to the correct frequency-program #.

i got the tube and nbc hd on the same 1-4 channel. dont ask me how..i just do.

Do you remember which freq YES was on?

Where are you picking up NBC-HD? My 1-4 is some "thetube" music channel. I want to watch Leno in HD. All my OTA HD's are accounted for except NBC. Any suggestions where to look?

If I remember correctly it used to be 93-1. Not sure though since it's been over a year when they encrypted it.

NBC is a tricky one. I sometimes get it on 1-4, but always get it on 104-1. If it isn't NBC, I get the Tube on 1-4.

Rangers have clinched! Now, does anyone know the details on the playoff television coverage? The Rangers will play on the 11th or 12th, on the road against either New Jersey, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, or possibly Pittsburgh. Who will televise this game in NYC...and the million dollar question...will we get the game in HD?

i heard this fall tbs will do baseball playoff & divisional games in hd. is this true for twc nyc?

Rangers have clinched! Now, does anyone know the details on the playoff television coverage? The Rangers will play on the 11th or 12th, on the road against either New Jersey, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, or possibly Pittsburgh. Who will televise this game in NYC...and the million dollar question...will we get the game in HD?

If it's on versus, hell no!!!

i heard this fall tbs will do baseball playoff & divisional games in hd. is this true for twc nyc?


TBS-HD has a planned launch for September.
their is no known K for TBS-HD with TWC.

Does that result in a major lag time, between when you change channels, and the new channel actually appears on your screen??

I wouldn't call it "major lag time" as it takes 1-2 seconds. The interesting thing is that this is very specific to the current software rev on my 8300HD DVR. It was absolutely faster under the previous release of Passport.

WWOR-HD 709 is just like WPIX-HD 711.

HD content for ~2 hours a day between 8 and 10, along with an occasional baseball game.

Don't expect anything else.

Aside from the fact that just about NONE of their programming holds any interest for me (save maybe a few Yankee games in August/September assuming they are in the hunt) I did notice the HDTV tag in the guide from some of their shows. BUT, I tuned to something that was NOT listed a HDTV and it was 16:9 non-stretched HD!

Still I'd FAR prefer all three that SI got that are being withheld from the rest of us.

Rangers have clinched! Now, does anyone know the details on the playoff television coverage? The Rangers will play on the 11th or 12th, on the road against either New Jersey, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, or possibly Pittsburgh. Who will televise this game in NYC...and the million dollar question...will we get the game in HD?

I hear they are going to do HD e-mail... during Rangers playoff games, you'll get an e-mail every 10 minutes with a HD image.

From what I remember, you'll have to move to another city to get NY Rangers playoff games in HD, I think Versus has hockey playoff games.

I wouldn't call it "major lag time" as it takes 1-2 seconds. The interesting thing is that this is very specific to the current software rev on my 8300HD DVR. It was absolutely faster under the previous release of Passport.
Strange....I've found exactly the opposite effect -- my channel change/synch seems to be significantly faster under this Passport release.

Also, now that I've had time to observe it for a while, I've been noting significantly less "skippage" dropouts since this release was pushed to my box.

Scott

Aside from the fact that just about NONE of their programming holds any interest for me (save maybe a few Yankee games in August/September assuming they are in the hunt) I did notice the HDTV tag in the guide from some of their shows. BUT, I tuned to something that was NOT listed a HDTV and it was 16:9 non-stretched HD!

Still I'd FAR prefer all three that SI got that are being withheld from the rest of us.
Actually I checked in on this channel last night and saw "Elton John's Birthday Concert" -- the recent concert from MSG in BEAUTIFUL true 720P HD. No 5.1, but the picture quality was spectacular.

Unfortunately the guy's voice is completely shot -- he's basically reduced to trying to croak out his songs with some very talented backup singers voices turned much louder than his....Even though I like the music and was impressed by the picture quality, I still couldn't bring myself to watch more than a few minutes due to his greatly limited vocal abilities....

Scott

I hear they are going to do HD e-mail... during Rangers playoff games, you'll get an e-mail every 10 minutes with a HD image.

From what I remember, you'll have to move to another city to get NY Rangers playoff games in HD, I think Versus has hockey playoff games.

This is really frustrating. They take away INHD2, which they previously used to simulcast the VS HD games, and replace it with nothing. Now I can't get Rangers PLAYOFF hockey in HD? :mad: If this is true it's totally unacceptable.

any1 here got the channel "iatv" on their qam tuner? on mine samsung tuner it is 84-25 i believe. well last week i was able to get sound and pix on this channel. but this week i was only able to get pix but no sound. wtf?

did twc mess up this channel?

For what it's worth I sent Ms. Witmer an email:

I am a Time Warner Cable customer in Manhattan. As a huge hockey fan I am eagerly awaiting the start of the playoffs. I am, however, concerned that the Rangers broadcasts might not be available in HD. Ever since TWC removed the INHD2 channel from the lineup (and replaced it with nothing) the games broadcast on VS were no longer available to us. With VS set to broadcast the early rounds of the NHL playoffs, I am interested in learning whether we should expect to see these games in HD. Are we out of luck because you don’t currently offer the Golf-Versus HD channel? And if so, is there any chance that this channel is due to be added within the next week? I understand that you must receive a huge amount of email from customers, and that is probably why you have not responded to me in the past. But I know I speak for a lot of Rangers fans when I tell you that we love our team and really want to see them play in the best available format…HD. Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Broadwayblue

Strange....I've found exactly the opposite effect -- my channel change/synch seems to be significantly faster under this Passport release.

Also, now that I've had time to observe it for a while, I've been noting significantly less "skippage" dropouts since this release was pushed to my box.
I agree. I used to have 480 enabled (along with 1080) a few years ago but somewhere along the way the channel changing became unbearably slow. I only went with 1080 but it is tolerable now and I’m happily utilizing it again. :cool:

Actually I checked in on this channel last night and saw "Elton John's Birthday Concert" -- the recent concert from MSG in BEAUTIFUL true 720P HD. No 5.1, but the picture quality was spectacular.

Unfortunately the guy's voice is completely shot -- he's basically reduced to trying to croak out his songs with some very talented backup singers voices turned much louder than his....Even though I like the music and was impressed by the picture quality, I still couldn't bring myself to watch more than a few minutes due to his greatly limited vocal abilities....Double bummer...Sorry I missed that and sorry to hear his voice is shot.

I’ll have to check and see if it will be on again. Over the years his voice has come and gone, hopefully this was a “gone” and he isn’t finished.

I’ve seen him perform countless times going back over thirty years, mainly in the mid 70’s (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road Tour, etc...) but I haven’t been to an EJ performance for several years. I do recall, even back then that his voice was always inconsistent.

any1 here got the channel "iatv" on their qam tuner? on mine samsung tuner it is 84-25 i believe. well last week i was able to get sound and pix on this channel. but this week i was only able to get pix but no sound. wtf?

did twc mess up this channel?


I have a sammy tuner, also. I get this channel (pix and sound). I think its a signal strength issue. I've notice over the past week or two a fluctuation in the signal strength of certain stations. For example, last week I got 6-7 bars on NBC-HD. This week is a steady 8 bars.

Over the years his voice has come and gone, hopefully this was a “gone” and he isn’t finished.
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I think I'm convinced at this point that it's gone for good. I saw him on some special on A&E about 6 months ago and his voice was just as unbearably "croaky". :(

I have a sammy tuner, also. I get this channel (pix and sound). I think its a signal strength issue. I've notice over the past week or two a fluctuation in the signal strength of certain stations. For example, last week I got 6-7 bars on NBC-HD. This week is a steady 8 bars.

how are u connecting ur sammy tuner? ota? mine is thru the cable signal from twc..thus i dont see any bars for signal for all the channel even though i get them just fine except for iatv this week.

i think u using ota antenna with ur sammy tuner correct? otherwise how u able to see signal bars? i use ota antenna when i first got my sammy tuner..but i stop cuz one minute u get 7 bars and next u get 0 bars...thats y i use the cable signal.

so how u able to get iatv ota? i dont believe they broadcast this channel ota?

how are u connecting ur sammy tuner? ota? mine is thru the cable signal from twc..thus i dont see any bars for signal for all the channel even though i get them just fine except for iatv this week.

i think u using ota antenna with ur sammy tuner correct? otherwise how u able to see signal bars? i use ota antenna when i first got my sammy tuner..but i stop cuz one minute u get 7 bars and next u get 0 bars...thats y i use the cable signal.

so how u able to get iatv ota? i dont believe they broadcast this channel ota?

My IATV is at 91.35; full pic and sound.

This is really frustrating. They take away INHD2, which they previously used to simulcast the VS HD games, and replace it with nothing. Now I can't get Rangers PLAYOFF hockey in HD? :mad: If this is true it's totally unacceptable.


You happen to be completely wrong about this.

1) VS-HD games were shown on InHD, not InHD2.
2) TWC had nothing to do with the ending of InHD2.
3) Comcast stopped allowing InHD to show VS-HD games when they launched the full-time channel.
4) Comcast has not begun to distribute the channel to other systems yet.


Don't blame TWC.... as much as it sucks....

You happen to be completely wrong about this....
2) TWC had nothing to do with the ending of InHD2.
.... as much as it sucks.... ...but they could've replaced it with something... or given those that subscribe to that tier some type of a credit.

You happen to be completely wrong about this.

1) VS-HD games were shown on InHD, not InHD2.
2) TWC had nothing to do with the ending of InHD2.
3) Comcast stopped allowing InHD to show VS-HD games when they launched the full-time channel.
4) Comcast has not begun to distribute the channel to other systems yet.


Don't blame TWC.... as much as it sucks....

1) I'm pretty sure I watched games on INHD2. I remember because a co-worker who only got INHD wasn't able to get them.

2) Wasn't TWC a part owner in the INHD channels? If so, ending the channel would certainly involve them.

3/4) Are you saying that Comcast owns VS? If so, that was a stupid move on the NHL's part to sign a licensing agreement with them if Comcast gets to control what cable systems get to carry the channel, thus limiting the exposure of the game.

how are u connecting ur sammy tuner? ota? mine is thru the cable signal from twc..thus i dont see any bars for signal for all the channel even though i get them just fine except for iatv this week.

i think u using ota antenna with ur sammy tuner correct? otherwise how u able to see signal bars? i use ota antenna when i first got my sammy tuner..but i stop cuz one minute u get 7 bars and next u get 0 bars...thats y i use the cable signal.

so how u able to get iatv ota? i dont believe they broadcast this channel ota?

No, I am connected through my cable signal. On the t451, I have the s-video out > s-video in on the Panny ES25. On the Panny, hdmi > to an lcd hdtv. The output switch on the back of the t451 is set to 480i. This is the only way I get the menus and the signal strength indicator to appear on the tv screen.

At the same time, I have component out on the t451 to component in on the panny. With the switch on the t451 set to either 1080i or 480p, I don't get the menus or the signal strength indicator.

1) I'm pretty sure I watched games on INHD2. I remember because a co-worker who only got INHD wasn't able to get them.

2) Wasn't TWC a part owner in the INHD channels? If so, ending the channel would certainly involve them.

3/4) Are you saying that Comcast owns VS? If so, that was a stupid move on the NHL's part to sign a licensing agreement with them if Comcast gets to control what cable systems get to carry the channel, thus limiting the exposure of the game.

-Yes - Games were on InHD - I'm sure.

-Time Warner Corporate is part owner.... Obviously TWC-NYC had nothing to do with it

- Yes, Comcast owns Versus. (and it was the best deal the NHL could get - ESPN only offered the same type of deal NBC did, and HD wasn't an issue 2/3 years ago)

Rangers have clinched! Now, does anyone know the details on the playoff television coverage? The Rangers will play on the 11th or 12th, on the road against either New Jersey, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, or possibly Pittsburgh. Who will televise this game in NYC...and the million dollar question...will we get the game in HD?

We'll all have a better idea about matchups early Sunday morning ...
We'll all have an even better idea Sunday evening, once the Devils/Islanders finish up on MSG/FSNY. 3:30p game time.
But wait:
The NHL will have the official 1st round matchups -tv wise- Monday.

Dates for Rangers round 1:

thurs 4/12 away
sat 4/14 away

tues 4/17 home
wed 4/18 home

fri 4/20 away
sun 4/22 home
mon 4/23 away or tues 4/24 away

lol wtf happen to wwor hd?

im watching nets vs bulls game on wwor hd right now..and it is not in hd!!! lol...wtf.

i though wwor hd is broadcasting baseball ad basketball gm in hd this season?

lol wtf happen to wwor hd?

im watching nets vs bulls game on wwor hd right now..and it is not in hd!!! lol...wtf.

i though wwor hd is broadcasting baseball ad basketball gm in hd this season?
it's an away game. yes not bcasting away nets in hd, they're giving this game to wwor due to yankees conflict.

What the hell! I'm watching TV and then the TV blanks and says not HPCP or something not compaible, connect using Component. What Gives? I'm using the TWC 8300HD Explorer box. Is it the box? If i unplug and reset it seems to go away but always returns. Is may box defective? Will they update software to fix problem? Anyone else have this issue? Please advise.

What the hell! I'm watching TV and then the TV blanks and says not HPCP or something not compaible, connect using Component. What Gives? I'm using the TWC 8300HD Explorer box. Is it the box? If i unplug and reset it seems to go away but always returns. Is may box defective? Will they update software to fix problem? Anyone else have this issue? Please advise.

Sounds like an HDMI handshake issue. Make sure the cable is plugged in tight. Personally I've noticed that the HDMI connection hasn't been as strong as it was on older firmware...definitely seems flakier.

It sounds like for whatever reason, the DVI port on your box is short-circuiting or malfunctioning; for whatever reason it thinks something is connected to the DVI port.

My take; just swap it for a new box.

Anyone find HD signals on TWC a little grainy, especially in darker scenes? I wondering if it's TWC compressing the signal vs my setup. I am using a 8300HD over HDMI. Called customer support and the rep told me HDMI is a "faulty port" and they only support component, which for what it's worth looked the same to me.

I defintely think I have a HDMI handshake issue, the message says my HDTV does not support HPCP, I forget the exact lettering. If i change my cable box will that solve the problem, or it is my TV, or is it my receiver which does my HDMI DVI switching that is causing the problem? Please advise. Thanks.

Actually I checked in on this channel last night and saw "Elton John's Birthday Concert" -- the recent concert from MSG in BEAUTIFUL true 720P HD. No 5.1, but the picture quality was spectacular.

Scott

Ha, that was the show I saw a few snippets of to post it was in real HD!

As for channel change lag, the actual display plays an important role. Before I got my Samsung, I had the chance to set up and spend a lot of time with the same size LCD Sony (a XBR1). Same cable company, same node, same service, same STB, the Sony took a LONG time. Double or triple the time that my Samsung did. I'd also say that the "slightly longer" that 2.6.002 gave me still was quicker than the Sony back on the previous series.

Anyone find HD signals on TWC a little grainy, especially in darker scenes? I wondering if it's TWC compressing the signal vs my setup. I am using a 8300HD over HDMI. Called customer support and the rep told me HDMI is a "faulty port" and they only support component, which for what it's worth looked the same to me.

It's probably how the filmmakers intended it to be. Grain is an oft used device to make things gritty, more realistic.

Be aware that the "don't use HDMI" from TWC is a stock answer they give to abdicate ANY responsibility for a customer using it. All it really means is that if you have some flakiness, they won't even talk to you about it. The irony is that they do give you a box that absolutely has a functioning HDMI port on it. FWIW, I have been using the 8300 HD DVR for close to full year using HDMI and have had no issues (well, one time when I took my box to another apartment to check out some content I had on another TV, I found I had to reboot the box after I had powered it up to make a sync).

I defintely think I have a HDMI handshake issue, the message says my HDTV does not support HPCP, I forget the exact lettering. If i change my cable box will that solve the problem, or it is my TV, or is it my receiver which does my HDMI DVI switching that is causing the problem? Please advise. Thanks.

I got that once. "Your HDTV does not support HDCP. Use YPrPb component connection to watch TV." Samsung LN-S4695D connected to a 8300HD.

It's probably how the filmmakers intended it to be. Grain is an oft used device to make things gritty, more realistic.

Does 24 look really grainy to you? I have basically the same setup as you so it should be similar results.

VS doesn't have an exclusive on the entire playoffs. MSG & NBC will have games too and we'll have HD hockey without a doubt.

This is really frustrating. They take away INHD2, which they previously used to simulcast the VS HD games, and replace it with nothing. Now I can't get Rangers PLAYOFF hockey in HD? :mad: If this is true it's totally unacceptable.

any1 here watching mets vs brave on fox hd? the audio is dropping like a sec. like ever 2-3 min. while the mls on abc hd is not.

could fox hd not sending out enuff signal?

VS doesn't have an exclusive on the entire playoffs. MSG & NBC will have games too and we'll have HD hockey without a doubt.

Yeah, but I was planning on having an opening night playoff party and I don't know whether the first Rangers game (tentatively scheduled for next Thursday) will be available to us in HD. If it's gonna be on VS I think we're out of luck. If it's on MSG, I still don't know whether they will broadcast the away games in HD, although they have done some road games in HD this season. Guess we'll know more tomorrow evening or Monday morning once all the matchups are set.

how long do i have to wait after i unplug my HD cable box (8300) to achieve a full system reset? I'm having problems with my HDMI and CS says i can plug it back right away but i don't believe that is the case.

How long do i have to wait to get full system reset?

Does 24 look really grainy to you? I have basically the same setup as you so it should be similar results.

Yes, at times 24 has very grainy scenes, other times not. BSG is another show that is much the same, some scenes are VERY grainy, some not as much.

That being said and mindful of what the filmmakers are intending, it COULD be that these guys are still thinking SD. In SD, the grain may not look near as obvious as it does in HD, so I think those looking for the effect, need to "tone it down a bit" for HD. The conundrum is that doing that may make the SD version much less obvious.

Still, the "message" I'm trying to convey is that beyond what the technology can or can't do lies artistic choice. And artistic choice can make it seem that there is a lack in the technology (another good example is Studio 60, they use soft focus a LOT, so one could actually question if it's real HD or not because a lot of the time it doesn't LOOK that way).

how long do i have to wait after i unplug my HD cable box (8300) to achieve a full system reset? I'm having problems with my HDMI and CS says i can plug it back right away but i don't believe that is the case.

How long do i have to wait to get full system reset?

Conventional wisdom says a full minute. Practically, I've seen some issues fixed with about a 5 second lag between pulling and plugging. I've yet to see something the 5 second turn-over did NOT fix that DID get fixed by a 2 minutes unplug.

I recall reading that the local cable provider in Chicago (Comcast I think) is "making" all it's STB customers that are still using analog STBs to replace them with digital ones. The theory seems to be that once that is completed, they can easily shut of all analog channels (keep in mind we're talking cable, none of this has ANYTHING to do with the 2009 OTA digital transition). I recall a claim of around 60 such channels. That represents about 120 HD channels.

Supposedly the reason why SI got 3 new HD channels was TWC went through the process and there are no analog STBs in SI. Then again, someone here posted several months back that at least 2 analog channels got shut off months ago, so we COULD have gotten those three (AFAIK).

Why doesn't TWC go on a campaign to essentially replace what analog boxes are still in existence? I KNOW that they know all about this, I can remember a conversation with a plain old CSR 5 years ago when he KNEW an analog box needed to be replaced BECAUSE he said they were going to shut off the analog channels within the year.

So by NOT even making an attempt to get old analog boxes replaced, they are essentially limiting us artificially as to how many HD channels we can get. All brought very much to a head by them giving new channels only in certain 'hoods!

riverside guy,

TWC NYC divisions have no more than 80 analog channels.
about 40 basic analog cable and about 40 standard analog cable channels.
the only customers in SI that had to convert to a digital box were the ones who had basic & standard service.
so out of 80 analog channels in SI, their is now only about 40 in SI which is just basic analog survive.
not everybody had to change their box.
it was said by TWCINSIDER, that Bkyln, Queens and Man. will do the same in that order but we don't know when.

this process is a little different from what comcast is doing in Chicago.
Comcast was spending 400 million over 4 years to fully upgrade chicago to all digital.
Do you really see TWC spending that much here? their taking baby steps which is unfortunate

I have a question about verizon fios. Where is it available right now and is it better then time warner service because I see it has a few more channels that I would like to have at this moment. Any info would be appreciated right now.

P.s. thanks big
certain part's of Long Island have it already. But they are waiting just like in NYC for aggreements to be worked out. Except the difference is they have to go town to town not just get approval from each county(Nassau & Suffux) while for NYC once the aggreements are made it can be widely distrubuted. Nassau county is suppose to be their big starting point. SI will be next but we are all waiting to hear from the first person that was able to change.
FIOS Internet and phone is available already in other places with TV to follow soon.

It's still over a year away - by then much more capacity is expected.

And ESPNNews is well over 75% highlights - very little time showing the actual people.

And expanding to a 16:9 image allows them to make use of the screen and show more up-to-the-minute stats... If they are considering that....

But that is one of my points what good is 75% of clips if the clips coming in aren't in HD. Who is to say for sure that they will be or will not? We will never know until we see the channel, but by then it is too late.

Anyway it is a year away so maybe the cabke companies work magic to gain compacity and they add more entertainment channels before they add a news channel.

Come on now, do we really need more stats? We are in the media age. Any stat quote or interview is readily available at a seconds notice. Just type in what you want and the stats run in real time with games. You can't get any better than that. The sports and news nets already take up 20% of the screen. Do wee need to give them more? Don't get me wrong I like up to the minute stats just like the next guy, but I don't want to lose anymore of the screen to get them.

Well it doesn't come cheap...

And YES has been on a bit longer - so they've had a chance to build up more revenue to make the investment and start full road HD this season.

I'm sure SNY will do more road games in HD as soon as they can properly budget it.
Are the yanks doing HD for all games this year? I haven't read that anywhere. I thought it was still suppose to be seleted games?

What the hell! I'm watching TV and then the TV blanks and says not HPCP or something not compaible, connect using Component. What Gives? I'm using the TWC 8300HD Explorer box. Is it the box? If i unplug and reset it seems to go away but always returns. Is may box defective? Will they update software to fix problem? Anyone else have this issue? Please advise.
Make sure your cable box goes on first, from personal experiance when I press power on the remote and the TV goes on first then turn on the cable box the HDCP shows up. As long as my box goes on first I have no "handshake" issues. This is the easy way to combat HDCP notification during start-up. First test it buy tuning on each component seperately. cable thenTV & TV then cable. If it shows the HDCP on any you know you have to watch which starts first and you know it isn't the boxes fault.

The one thing I am worried about is, it sounds like you are saying it does it after watching a while, not only start up. If that is the case, it might be a short of some kind. You, just might have to exchange your box. It is an easy processs, it just takes trime to disconnect everything and go to the cable offices. It might be best to use component cables for the shows you really want to see so you won't get any interuptions. Until you are ready to change your box.

I recall reading that the local cable provider in Chicago (Comcast I think) is "making" all it's STB customers that are still using analog STBs to replace them with digital ones. The theory seems to be that once that is completed, they can easily shut of all analog channels (keep in mind we're talking cable, none of this has ANYTHING to do with the 2009 OTA digital transition). I recall a claim of around 60 such channels. That represents about 120 HD channels.

Supposedly the reason why SI got 3 new HD channels was TWC went through the process and there are no analog STBs in SI. Then again, someone here posted several months back that at least 2 analog channels got shut off months ago, so we COULD have gotten those three (AFAIK).

Why doesn't TWC go on a campaign to essentially replace what analog boxes are still in existence? I KNOW that they know all about this, I can remember a conversation with a plain old CSR 5 years ago when he KNEW an analog box needed to be replaced BECAUSE he said they were going to shut off the analog channels within the year.

So by NOT even making an attempt to get old analog boxes replaced, they are essentially limiting us artificially as to how many HD channels we can get. All brought very much to a head by them giving new channels only in certain 'hoods!

Something similar to that was suppose to be done on Comcast in NJ, the article is in this thread, I remember responding to the person who post it. I think doing that is better for us (HDTV enthusiest)in the long term. Once the wipe out their analog capacity the cable companies gain so much room that they can open their doors to more options to their HD client base which is growing daily, but still small. The problem with this move is DTV is a choice. The reason Comcast is getting away with it is because they will offer incentives to people that do switch. I don't think TWC is ready to offer such incentives. You have the grand ma and pops of the world who don't like change so they might be the biggest % of holdout's that delay the all digital proccess. But no need to fret all the cable companies are looking to be all digital before the deadline(it isn't a deadline for them they just use it as a total changeover point), so they can move forward into the future.
If you want to look at a positive note, most of those analog boxes are old and totally outdated, they will break down and when the client goes to change they have to get DTV because that is the only service TWC offers now.

PS, we should all visit our grandparents and make sure they make the change, Just tell them they have a 50's and 60's music channel that they would love.

Are the yanks doing HD for all games this year? I haven't read that anywhere. I thought it was still suppose to be seleted games?

http://www.yesnetwork.com/promos/YESHD/index.jsp

http://www.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070331&content_id=1421662&vkey=1

VS doesn't have an exclusive on the entire playoffs. MSG & NBC will have games too and we'll have HD hockey without a doubt.

Well I'm just hoping they don't select Thrashers/Rangers as one of their exclusives. Gotta figure Ottawa/Pittsburgh would be one...not sure what they would pick for their other.

And how come TWC carries VS. and the Golf Channel, but not the VS/Golf HD channel?

http://www.yesnetwork.com/promos/YESHD/index.jsp

http://www.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070331&content_id=1421662&vkey=1
Thanks Berk, I didn't know that. So we get all the Yankee games in HD from now on until infinity. We need them to shut down the SD feed and make all those Analog and dtv yankee fans to get an HDTV. At least we get a lot more in HD like the pre and post games. Next season all the Nets games will be full time HD also, that is cool to know because it gives us more sports in HD to choose from.

Did anyone watch the Nets/Chicago game on MynineHD? I know it wasn't in HD but just by being on the HD channel the PQ is always better then it's sister SD feed, however the PQ looked like they had a fireworks show beofore the start of the game. It was a very smokey PQ. The players looked clear, there was limited mtion lags, which isn't bad for a SD game. it was just that damm smokey PQ. Was I the only one seeing this? I know my9 is still trying to get it right but it just didn'tlook like it was a signal problem.

Well I'm just hoping they don't select Thrashers/Rangers as one of their exclusives. Gotta figure Ottawa/Pittsburgh would be one...not sure what they would pick for their other.

And how come TWC carries VS. and the Golf Channel, but not the VS/Golf HD channel?

it was said that Comcast, the owner of both versus & golf would have Golf/Versus-HD available to all that carry both channels as of 4/1/07.

4/7 has come and gone, so we are gonna have to ask TWC corporate what's going because no TWC division carries it.

and the NHL playoffs start wednesday.

Well I'm just hoping they don't select Thrashers/Rangers as one of their exclusives. Gotta figure Ottawa/Pittsburgh would be one...not sure what they would pick for their other.

And how come TWC carries VS. and the Golf Channel, but not the VS/Golf HD channel?
I think despite Vs, contract MSG's contract trumps the others. So all rangers games will be shown on MSG. All you Ranger fans should be safe. The Kniicks are almost done and even if they make the playoffs, TNT has exclusive rights to the 1st round. The only concern you Ranger fans might have is if the basketball season isn't over before the Rangers first playoff game, Then That might be a problem because the Knicks are a better draw (ratings wise)and it is business first.
I know what it is like to be a fan and miss playoff games, so good luck to all you Ranger fans lets get far into the playoffs this year.

Well the schedule is out. From NHL.com (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=298698)

2007 EASTERN CONFERENCE QUARTERFINALS

Series A - #1 Buffalo vs. #8 NY Islanders
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Thu., April 12 8:00 p.m. at Buffalo TSN
Sat., April 14 7:30 p.m. at Buffalo VERSUS, TSN
Mon., April 16 7:30 p.m. at NY Islanders VERSUS, TSN
Wed., April 18 7:30 p.m. at NY Islanders VERSUS, TSN
*Fri., April 20 7:00 p.m. at Buffalo VERSUS, TSN
*Sun., April 22 7:00 p.m. at NY Islanders VERSUS, TSN
*Tue., April 24 TBD at Buffalo TSN

Series B - #2 New Jersey vs. #7 Tampa Bay
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Thu., April 12 7:30 p.m. at New Jersey RDS
Sat., April 14 7:00 p.m. at New Jersey CBC, RDS
Mon., April 16 7:00 p.m. at Tampa Bay CBC, RDS
Wed., April 18 7:00 p.m. at Tampa Bay CBC, RDS
*Fri., April 20 7:00 p.m. at New Jersey CBC, RDS
*Sun., April 22 TBD at Tampa Bay CBC, RDS
*Tue., April 24 TBD at New Jersey CBC, RDS

Series C - #3 Atlanta vs. #6 NY Rangers
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Thu., April 12 7:00 p.m. at Atlanta TSN
Sat., April 14 3:00 p.m. at Atlanta NBC, TSN
Tue., April 17 7:00 p.m. at NY Rangers TSN
Wed., April 18 7:00 p.m. at NY Rangers TSN
*Fri., April 20 TBD at Atlanta TSN
*Sun., April 22 1:00 p.m. at NY Rangers NBC, TSN
*Mon., April 23 7:00 p.m. at Atlanta VERSUS, TSN

Series D - #4 Ottawa vs. #5 Pittsburgh
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Wed., April 11 7:00 p.m. at Ottawa CBC, RDS, VERSUS
Sat., April 14 3:00 p.m. at Ottawa CBC, RDS, NBC
Sun., April 15 6:00 p.m. at Pittsburgh VERSUS, CBC, RDS
Tue., April 17 7:00 p.m. at Pittsburgh VERSUS, CBC, RDS
*Thu., April 19 7:00 p.m. at Ottawa CBC, RDS, VERSUS
*Sun., April 22 1:00 p.m. at Pittsburgh NBC, CBC, RDS
*Tue., April 24 7:00 p.m. at Ottawa VERSUS, CBC, RDS

*if necessary

2007 WESTERN CONFERENCE QUARTERFINALS

Series E - #1 Detroit vs. #8 Calgary
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Thu., April 12 7:00 p.m. at Detroit VERSUS, CBC
Sun., April 15 1:00 p.m. at Detroit NBC, CBC
Tue., April 17 10:00 p.m. at Calgary CBC, VERSUS
Thu., April 19 TBD at Calgary CBC, VERSUS
*Sat., April 21 3:00 p.m. at Detroit NBC, CBC
*Sun., April 22 TBD at Calgary CBC, VERSUS
*Tue., April 24 TBD at Detroit CBC, VERSUS

Series F - #2 Anaheim vs. #7 Minnesota
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Wed., April 11 10:30 p.m. at Anaheim TSN
Fri., April 13 10:30 p.m. at Anaheim TSN
Sun., April 15 8:00 p.m. at Minnesota TSN
Tue., April 17 9:00 p.m. at Minnesota TSN
*Thu., April 19 10:30 p.m. at Anaheim TSN
*Sat., April 21 TBD at Minnesota TSN
*Mon., April 23 10:00 p.m. at Anaheim TSN

Series G - #3 Vancouver vs. #6 Dallas
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Wed., April 11 10:00 p.m. at Vancouver CBC, RDS, VERSUS
Fri., April 13 9:00 p.m. at Vancouver CBC, RDS, VERSUS
Sun., April 15 9:30 p.m. at Dallas VERSUS, CBC, RDS
Tue., April 17 8:00 p.m. at Dallas CBC, RDS (JIP)
*Thu., April 19 TBD at Vancouver CBC, RDS, VERSUS
*Sat., April 21 8:00 p.m. at Dallas VERSUS, CBC, RDS
*Mon., April 23 TBD at Vancouver CBC, RDS, VERSUS

Series H - #4 Nashville vs. #5 San Jose
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Wed., April 11 8:00 p.m. at Nashville TSN
Fri., April 13 8:00 p.m. at Nashville TSN
Mon., April 16 10:00 p.m. at San Jose VERSUS, TSN
Wed., April 18 10:00 p.m. at San Jose VERSUS, TSN
*Fri., April 20 9:00 p.m. at Nashville VERSUS (JIP), TSN
*Sun., April 22 10:00 p.m. at San Jose VERSUS (JIP), TSN
*Tue., April 24 TBD at Nashville VERSUS, TSN

JIP - joined in progress
*if necessary

it was said that Comcast, the owner of both versus & golf would have Golf/Versus-HD available to all that carry both channels as of 4/1/07.

4/7 has come and gone, so we are gonna have to ask TWC corporate what's going because no TWC division carries it.

and the NHL playoffs start wednesday.

Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed that they add it by April 23. That's the first date they can air a Rangers/Thrashers game...if it goes the distance.

Well the schedule is out. From NHL.com (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=298698)

Series C - #3 Atlanta vs. #6 NY Rangers
Date Time (ET) Location Network
Thu., April 12 7:00 p.m. at Atlanta TSN
Sat., April 14 3:00 p.m. at Atlanta NBC, TSN
Tue., April 17 7:00 p.m. at NY Rangers TSN
Wed., April 18 7:00 p.m. at NY Rangers TSN
*Fri., April 20 TBD at Atlanta TSN
*Sun., April 22 1:00 p.m. at NY Rangers NBC, TSN
*Mon., April 23 7:00 p.m. at Atlanta VERSUS, TSN


JIP - joined in progress
*if necessary


OK, so Game 4 is the only "conflict" night on MSG. (final Knicks game of the season - obviously on the road - vs the Bobcats) - I think its safe to say MSG will move that one to MSG2 (probably weren't any plans for that game to be in HD anyways)

MSG did a much better job this season of putting the home team (between the Knicks and Rangers) on MSG and not MSG2 this season (only once was a Ranger home game on FSNY)... so I think we'll be ok for that game



(LOL... the first Islander game is going to have to be on FSNY2.... great situation for them... they get into the Playoffs and still get relegated to a crap channel)

PS, we should all visit our grandparents and make sure they make the change, Just tell them they have a 50's and 60's music channel that they would love.That hurts. My grandparents were teenagers in the 1900s and 1910s. I was a teenager in the 60's.:p

OK, so Game 4 is the only "conflict" night on MSG. (final Knicks game of the season - obviously on the road - vs the Bobcats) - I think its safe to say MSG will move that one to MSG2 You are wrong.
This absolutely guarantees that the Knicks game will be on MSG and in HD. :rolleyes: :p :D

http://www.tvpredictions.com/twversus040907.htm

"Time Warner Gets Versus HD Rights
But a spokesman says it's up to each system to add it.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (April 9, 2007) -- Time Warner Cable has obtained the rights to broadcast the Versus/Golf channel in High-Definition.

However, Mark Harrad, a Time Warner spokesman, says it's up to the individual Time Warner system whether to add the high-def channel.

Versus/Golf, which is owned by Comcast, carries National Hockey League games and some golf tournaments in HD. The network will broadcast NHL playoff games in high-def.
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Harrad says he does not know which (if any) local Time Warner systems have added the HD channel.

"We do have the rights to carry Versus in HD," Harrad says. "I do not have information here regarding which divisions have added that to their line-up and which have not at this point in time. It's up to the divisions. Generally, we try to add as much HD programming as possible, but there has to be channels available on the appropriate tier and the channel line-ups differ from division to division."

With the NHL playoffs beginning this week, several Time Warner subscribers have contacted TVPredictions.com asking if the high-def Versus/Golf will be added."

Talk about timing...any chance TWC adds Versus/Golf HD to the lineup by Wednesday??? One can dream, right? Seems like the perfect replacement for INHD2...and they did keep the slot open!

Talk about timing...any chance TWC adds Versus/Golf HD to the lineup by Wednesday??? One can dream, right? Seems like the perfect replacement for INHD2...and they did keep the slot open!

would u want versus-hd or espn2 to fill that slot?
that's the question.
SI can add espn2-hd, ngc-hd and versus-hd if they wanted to.

would u want versus-hd or espn2 to fill that slot?
that's the question.
SI can add espn2-hd, ngc-hd and versus-hd if they wanted to.

That's a tough question...could make an argument for either one. Hopefully both will be added soon. Personally I'd go for VS-HD as we used to get their NHL broadcasts and now we don't...and the playoffs start in 2 days.

On a similar note, is there any way to find out whether MSG-HD will be airing the Rangers road games? I know they usually only do HD for home games, but come on, this is the playoffs!!!

That's a tough question...could make an argument for either one. Hopefully both will be added soon. Personally I'd go for VS-HD as we used to get their NHL broadcasts and now we don't...and the playoffs start in 2 days.

On a similar note, is there any way to find out whether MSG-HD will be airing the Rangers road games? I know they usually only do HD for home games, but come on, this is the playoffs!!!

tru, I wonder which is more important a road rangers playoff game or a knick game?

tru, I wonder which is more important a road rangers playoff game or a knick game?

good question indeed...but fortunately the Knicks don't play on Thursday, so they can't screw us over that way.

That's a tough question...could make an argument for either one. Hopefully both will be added soon. Personally I'd go for VS-HD as we used to get their NHL broadcasts and now we don't...and the playoffs start in 2 days.

On a similar note, is there any way to find out whether MSG-HD will be airing the Rangers road games? I know they usually only do HD for home games, but come on, this is the playoffs!!!

Check this out... Here's a stop gap solution to the bandwidth problem with adding 3 new fulltime HD sports channels like Versus/Golf HD, ESPN2 HD & FSNY HD all at once. Maybe TWC NYC could show some creativity on their part by broadcasting only the Hi-Def games when available on any of these sports channels and in order of importance (i.e., playoffs, home teams, etc.) on a new "HD Specials" channel. I know its not better than getting the 3 new sports channels fulltime but it's much better than getting nothing.

Check this out... Here's a stop gap solution to the bandwidth problem with adding 3 new fulltime HD sports channels like Versus/Golf HD, ESPN2 HD & FSNY HD all at once. Maybe TWC NYC could show some creativity on their part by broadcasting only the Hi-Def games when available on any of these sports channels and in order of importance (i.e., playoffs, home teams, etc.) on a new "HD Specials" channel. I know its not better than getting the 3 new sports channels fulltime but it's much better than getting nothing.

Great idea in theory, but we all know how hard it is for them to flip the switch to HD when they only have one network per channel. But I agree, they should find a way to give us what we want. There's so much garbage in their lineup I just don't know how they can't get it done.

Confused about Rangers playoff games... I see 2 on NBC which I'll assume are in HD. Great, if they play to a seventh game, it goes on Versus which TWC has every RIGHT to carry, but will NOT carry in the Rangers home borough.

Will MSG carry all the others in HD or not?

Harrad says he does not know which (if any) local Time Warner systems have added the HD channel.

Idiot, he already knows that TWC-NYC will NOT be running VS HD in most of NYC.

But this IS the first time I see them admit that just because they have paid for the rights to carry something, they won't carry them everywhere. Which means that all those channels we don't get are most likely PAID for by our monthly bills.

Most HD channels are at different volumes for SI TWC-NY
I have noticed that if i am watching say channel 707 WABC-HD, i have to turn the volume on my Sony kdl-v2500 up to 28-30 to comfortable listen and hear all of the dialogue, but then when the commercials come on, its blasting and i have to turn it down to 10-13.
Then if i switch to INHD or UNIHD or HDNET, 12-15 is perfectly acceptable to listen to at a normal volume. Non HD channels are acceptable at volumes around 10 or so all of the time.

Is there anything i can do about this ?
Is it my TV, or the signal ? (i assume its the signal)

certain part's of Long Island have it already. But they are waiting just like in NYC for aggreements to be worked out. Except the difference is they have to go town to town not just get approval from each county(Nassau & Suffux) while for NYC once the aggreements are made it can be widely distrubuted. Nassau county is suppose to be their big starting point. SI will be next but we are all waiting to hear from the first person that was able to change.
FIOS Internet and phone is available already in other places with TV to follow soon.


What specific agreements are needed? Is for the permission to lay the infrastructure fiber optic CABLE? is that why they need to go TOWN 2 TOWN?

What specific agreements are needed? Is for the permission to lay the infrastructure fiber optic CABLE? is that why they need to go TOWN 2 TOWN?

Permission is needed for the franchise agreement that lets them offer cable television service.

Exactly as i predicted when i first read about the SUPPOSED televising of all road games in HD in the press release we saw in this ng, this is NOT HD on the YES road game tonite in Minnesota. It's the same ED =crap= they used LAST year!! BIG FREAKIN' DEAL!! Matter of fact, i just noticed they took the LYING "YES HD" logo off the screen. :mad:

Of course, it =would= be nice if someone threw a switch in the next 20 minutes to PUT the game in true HD...but i won't be holding my breath.

Michael Kay just mentioned that the game is available in Spanish by pressing the SAP button...but NOTHING...not A WORD, about the game being in HD.

You wait and see...i bet this is what we get with METS games on WWOR HD, too.

Exactly as i predicted when i first read about the SUPPOSED televising of all road games in HD in the press release we saw in this ng, this is NOT HD on the YES road game tonite in Minnesota. It's the same ED =crap= they used LAST year!! BIG FREAKIN' DEAL!! Matter of fact, i just noticed they took the LYING "YES HD" logo off the screen. :mad:

Of course, it =would= be nice if someone threw a switch in the next 20 minutes to PUT the game in true HD...but i won't be holding my breath.

Michael Kay just mentioned that the game is available in Spanish by pressing the SAP button...but NOTHING...not A WORD, about the game being in HD.

You wait and see...i bet this is what we get with METS games on WWOR HD, too.

Yankees/Twins are ESPN HD and its not blacked out.
Also the Mets are on CW11, not WWOR.

Yankees/Twins are ESPN HD and its not blacked out.
Also the Mets are on CW11, not WWOR.

Well, WADDYA KNOW??...you're right! Usually they black out local team games on ESPN from our cable when YES has the game on its schedule. But that doesn't explain why it's not on in HD on YES!

And thanks for the correction about the Mets games being on CW11, you're right of course. I have the Yanks game on in the background as i type this up, and got distracted/confused. What i meant to write is, when the YANKS games are on WWOR HD, i bet THOSE games will be on in ED, too.

Exactly as i predicted...Yes, you were :( correct.
....so much for believing the press releases. :mad:
This had better be an early season snafu.

Yes, you were :( correct.
....so much for believing the press releases. :mad:
This had better be an early season snafu.

I'm certainly hoping you're right about that, Larry. Maybe they don't know what REAL HD is supposed to look like?? The ONLY thing HD on this Yankee road game was the PRE and POST game shows. :(

Confused about Rangers playoff games... I see 2 on NBC which I'll assume are in HD. Great, if they play to a seventh game, it goes on Versus which TWC has every RIGHT to carry, but will NOT carry in the Rangers home borough.

Will MSG carry all the others in HD or not?
Good bet that Rangers fans will probably see all games in HD.
Of the first 4, MSG has the first away game, followed by NBC.
MSG has the two home games at MSG.
MSG will have game 5 at Atlanta, NBC game 6 at MSG. and MSG has game 7 in Atlanta.
Too bad most of TWC NYC doesn't have FSN NY-HD for the Devils and Icelanders.

Good bet that Rangers fans will probably see all games in HD.
Of the first 4, MSG has the first away game, followed by NBC.
MSG has the two home games at MSG.
MSG will have game 5 at Atlanta, NBC game 6 at MSG. and MSG has game 7 in Atlanta.
Too bad most of TWC NYC doesn't have FSN NY-HD for the Devils and Icelanders.

With very few exceptions, away games on MSG HD are NOT shown in HD.

I'm certainly hoping you're right about that, Larry. Maybe they don't know what REAL HD is supposed to look like?? The ONLY thing HD on this Yankee road game was the PRE and POST game shows. :(

YES can't possibly be trying to pass off tonight's telecast as HD. They know what real HD is because the home games are broadcast in 1080i. The commercial they constanty run states every Yankees game on YES this season is in HD, likewise for the YES website. If Tuesday night's game looks like tonight's someone in the programming department will be getting a call from me on Wednesday morning asking for an explanation.

YES can't possibly be trying to pass off tonight's telecast as HD. They know what real HD is because the home games are broadcast in 1080i. The commercial they constanty run states every Yankees game on YES this season is in HD, likewise for the YES website. If Tuesday night's game looks like tonight's someone in the programming department will be getting a call from me on Wednesday morning asking for an explanation.

That sounds REAL good to me. I'll probably do the same. Any specific phone number to call, so i don't have to go thru that very ANNOYING voice menu deal??

With very few exceptions, away games on MSG HD are NOT shown in HD.

Well, here's to hoping that the Rangers first playoff game is an exception (as well as their 5th. ;))

With very few exceptions, away games on MSG HD are NOT shown in HD.

That isn't true anymore.

The Knicks had over a dozen road games in HD (basically the regional ones... plus a few more random ones - like from San Antonio).

The Rangers also had games in Phily, Boston, Pittsburgh, and i think DC in HD (when their road game actually was on MSG and not MSG2 against a Knicks game).

Atlanta is a bit further away - but I think they will make the effort for the playoffs to get a truck in the area and do it right.

That hurts. My grandparents were teenagers in the 1900s and 1910s. I was a teenager in the 60's.:p

oops! sorry rgross, :) I forgot that there are people over forty (I am almost here), fifty, and some 60's at AVS. I think there is a big band station that the the elder folk might realy enjoy. At least I know you already changed to DTV. We just need all NYers to make this change.

Talk about timing...any chance TWC adds Versus/Golf HD to the lineup by Wednesday??? One can dream, right? Seems like the perfect replacement for INHD2...and they did keep the slot open!

I don't think so, It would be nice, but they have to notify us a month in advance of changes. Thast is their rules so they can break them if they want to make us NYer's happy.

As for the replacement, ESPN would be a better fit, especially around this time of year. The baseball season is in full swing and ESPN2 will carry many games in HD. While Versus would give golf and fishing in HD. For some that might be a toss up, but for me the baseball would be a better draw.

What specific agreements are needed? Is for the permission to lay the infrastructure fiber optic CABLE? is that why they need to go TOWN 2 TOWN?
they need both, the franchise agreement like broadway said, then they have to work out an agreement like the cable companies have. The will be using public space for the cables and the towns and county will want to be compensated. The cable companies give free time to a city, county and/or the federal government by giving them access channels (like C-span for federal and the local public access channels for cities and towns. Either they do it this way or they figure out a way to lease/rent the space needed to run the cables. This is the same thing that happened when cable was an infant. The governments wanted something in return for using the telephone poles to run cable lines.

they need both, the franchise agreement like broadway said, then they have to work out an agreement like the cable companies have. The will be using public space for the cables and the towns and county will want to be compensated. The cable companies give free time to a city, county and/or the federal government by giving them access channels (like C-span for federal and the local public access channels for cities and towns. Either they do it this way or they figure out a way to lease/rent the space needed to run the cables. This is the same thing that happened when cable was an infant. The governments wanted something in return for using the telephone poles to run cable lines.


Sounds like it's gonna take a while.

Why don't you guys check the channel guide for the Rangers away games? It "should" be updated by now for at least the first 2 games and you can check if the away games on MSGHD has the little "HDTV" logo. If it does you all can make you plans for your playoff parties and have peace of mind that you aren't getting screwed. The quotes are needed because the guide sometimes doesn't get updated as fast as we need it to. But there have been many shows this season that were canceled and the channel guide made the updates right away. All games on MSG will be on MSGHD, the only question mark will be the on the 18th. It is a Ranger Home game and a Knicks away game(last game), I doubt if MSG would put a playoff game on a sister channel in favor for a game that will have no meaning other then another year full of underachieving.

As for the Yankee game, the HDTV logo was not there. Which was disappointing! Especially after that article we all read last week. Even the pre and post games didn't have the logo. But at least watching the game on YES HD looks much better then on YES SD. It wasn't HD but on my TV it looked good, none of the flaws that happen with a sport on SD were present. At least for me it wasn't. I was looking forward to see how the turf looks in HD and the general environment of the Homer Dome.

Sounds like it's gonna take a while.
Yeah, it will. The only thing that might make this easy is if Verizon is claiming that they already pay for the space because they are a telephone company first and they are only upgrading their existing cables. We can hope! :) But the flaw in that is that Verizon adds the outside telephone line charges to our bills in the form or taxes and surcharges. I hope they make the cable aggreement or they might add the cost of the new lines to the FIOS bill which in turn you will be getting hit twice for one cable. That would really suck!

Why don't you guys check the channel guide for the Rangers away games? It "should" be updated by now for at least the first 2 games and you can check if the away games on MSGHD has the little "HDTV" logo. If it does you all can make you plans for your playoff parties and have peace of mind that you aren't getting screwed. The quotes are needed because the guide sometimes doesn't get updated as fast as we need it to. But there have been many shows this season that were canceled and the channel guide made the updates right away. All games on MSG will be on MSGHD, the only question mark will be the on the 18th. It is a Ranger Home game and a Knicks away game(last game), I doubt if MSG would put a playoff game on a sister channel in favor for a game that will have no meaning other then another year full of underachieving.

As for the Yankee game, the HDTV logo was not there. Which was disappointing! Especially after that article we all read last week. Even the pre and post games didn't have the logo. But at least watching the game on YES HD looks much better then on YES SD. It wasn't HD but on my TV it looked good, none of the flaws that happen with a sport on SD were present. At least for me it wasn't. I was looking forward to see how the turf looks in HD and the general environment of the Homer Dome.

nope just checked my guide it currently states that beyond the glory airs at 7PM thurs. followed by boxing.

nope just checked my guide it currently states that beyond the glory airs at 7PM thurs. followed by boxing.
That sucks, maybe it is still too soon. If they ever do change it. At least I tried to help you guys. Let me see if there is any other options to ease your guys minds.

MSG's web site is showing that the game is on at 7PM:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/tv_schedule.jsp

Select 4/12 from the drop down.

MSG's web site is showing that the game is on at 7PM:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/tv_schedule.jsp

Select 4/12 from the drop down.
We know when the time the game is on and we know it will be shown on MSG and MSGHD the question that hasn't been answered is, Are these 2 away games braodcast in HD? Personally I think they will, MSG has the ability to show away games in HD, they did it for a few Knicks games this year. So why can't they show the Rangers away games. The Knicks are all but out of the playoff hunt, so the truck will be available.

Exactly as i predicted when i first read about the SUPPOSED televising of all road games in HD in the press release we saw in this ng, this is NOT HD on the YES road game tonite in Minnesota. It's the same ED =crap= they used LAST year!! BIG FREAKIN' DEAL!! Matter of fact, i just noticed they took the LYING "YES HD" logo off the screen. :mad:

Of course, it =would= be nice if someone threw a switch in the next 20 minutes to PUT the game in true HD...but i won't be holding my breath.

Michael Kay just mentioned that the game is available in Spanish by pressing the SAP button...but NOTHING...not A WORD, about the game being in HD.

You wait and see...i bet this is what we get with METS games on WWOR HD, too.

Ah, you noticed too, eh? I remember a small flurry of posts claiming that YES was going to have ALL Yankee games in HD, but I refrained from saying "no way." Then again, there was an announcement that YES was starting a full time HD channel on 4/1/07... and I suspect those that said ALL games were in HD because they saw that prediction, i.e. they read one thing and assumed something far different.

The away game on Saturday is on NBC, and I'm pretty sure I saw that was going to be in HD. Sorry, can't answer if Thursday's game will be in HD, but since its on MSG 1, there's a possibliity it will be.

Good bet that Rangers fans will probably see all games in HD.
Of the first 4, MSG has the first away game, followed by NBC.
MSG has the two home games at MSG.
MSG will have game 5 at Atlanta, NBC game 6 at MSG. and MSG has game 7 in Atlanta.
Too bad most of TWC NYC doesn't have FSN NY-HD for the Devils and Icelanders.

Actually, I saw that Versus was going to carry a game 7 if needed. Would MSG carry it anyway (like I doubt they carry the 2 NBC games)?

... I remember a small flurry of posts claiming that YES was going to have ALL Yankee games in HD, ....and I suspect those that said ALL games were in HD because they saw that prediction, i.e. they read one thing and assumed something far different. :rolleyes: Well what are we supposed to think after reading the YES press releases?
http://www.yesnetwork.com/promos/YESHD/index.jsp
This season, every Yankees game on YES is in High Definition

MSG's web site is showing that the game is on at 7PM:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/tv_schedule.jsp

Select 4/12 from the drop down.

Uh, that schedule says nothing about whether it's on MSG HD or not.

According to the TWC program guide, MSG HD is showing "Boxing" that night. While some claim hockey IS boxing, we will NOT be seeing playoff away games in HD. AND if the series goes to 7, Versus has game seven, which could mean we don't see it even in SD!

:rolleyes: Well what are we supposed to think after reading the YES press releases?
http://www.yesnetwork.com/promos/YESHD/index.jsp
This season, every Yankees game on YES is in High Definition

Ah, I saw a lot of posts about this, but thought that it came from an item on tvpredictions.com about YES starting a full time HD channel which some assumed meant all Yankees games in HD. Now I see they DID specifically say this... untruth.

Actually, I saw that Versus was going to carry a game 7 if needed. Would MSG carry it anyway (like I doubt they carry the 2 NBC games)?
The only net that has exclusivity in the 1st 2 rounds of the NHL playoffs is NBC.
And they'll have 2 Rangers games (gm 2 in Atl and gm 6 in NYC)
Thank GOD we don't get to see Versus screw up the Rags' games ...
their production values rate low ... Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Sabres production values much higher ... and never miss the puck or a replay ... like Versus does.

Uh, that schedule says nothing about whether it's on MSG HD or not.

According to the TWC program guide, MSG HD is showing "Boxing" that night. While some claim hockey IS boxing, we will NOT be seeing playoff away games in HD. AND if the series goes to 7, Versus has game seven, which could mean we don't see it even in SD!

TWC program guide not a great one ... probably has not been updated ....
fyi next Wednesday will be a huge day .... the final Knicks game of the season @ Charlotte will be on MSG-2 ... Rangers hockey on MSG ... Islanders on FSN NY and Devils on FSN NY-2.

what channels are MSG2 and FSNY2 on TWC?

is there a breakdown on which channels the DTValue pack has over the "Digital Starter Pack"?
I'm looking at ways to lower my friggin timewarner bill and don't watch all those channels.

what channels are MSG2 and FSNY2 on TWC?


Usually 51 and 60 (TVGuide Channel and CSPAN2)

But you wont see it in the program guide (its been posted on the www.msgnetwork.com website all season.... they'll hopefully update it when needed)

is there a breakdown on which channels the DTValue pack has over the "Digital Starter Pack"?
I'm looking at ways to lower my friggin timewarner bill and don't watch all those channels.
The easy difference is you lose all the on-demand channels, you need DTValue to access it. You also lose the stations between 100 and 160. That is a lot to lose for only $10-15. I don't know what the true price is. But there is a lot of cool free on-demand channels that I have found my new "quilty pleasure". All HDTV stays the same so you won't lose those. The best way to save money on the any cable bill is eliminate all premiums. That adds up if you have more then one.
Here is the list so you can decide if having just these channels would be worth it:
Sorry for the length guys.
Channel Channel Name



* Digital Starter Pak
1 NY1
2 WCBS
4 WNBC
5 FOX (WNYW)
6 Nickelodeon
7 WABC
8 TBS
9 MyNetworkTV (WWOR)
10 CNN
11 CW11 (WPIX)
12 Lifetime
13 Thirteen (WNET)
14 ABC Family
15 CNBC
16 A&E
17 The History Channel
18 The Discovery Channel
19 VH1
20 MTV
21 WLIW (21)
22 Cartoon Network
23 Court TV
24 E!
25 WNYE
26 SportsNet New York
27 MSG
28 ESPN
29 ESPN-2
30 YES Network
31 WPXN
32 Shop NBC
33 QVC
34 - 35 QPTV/BCAT
36 Spike TV
37 FX
38 Bravo
39 HSN
40 USA
41 Univision (WXTV)
42 BET
43 MSNBC
44 Sci Fi
45 Comedy Central
46 Fox News
47 Telemundo (WNJU)
48 Fox Sports New York
49 Disney Channel
50 Food Network
51 TV Guide Channel
52 TLC (The Learning Channel)
53 Galavision
54 AMC
55 WLNY
56 - 57 QPTV/BCAT
58 Headline News
60 C-SPAN 2
61 Oxygen
62 Lifetime Movie Network
63 WMBC
64 HGTV
65 National Geographic Channel
67 Azteca America
68 Telefutura (WFUT)
70 C-SPAN
71 NYC TV
72 The Weather Channel
73 - 74 NYC TV
75 CUNY NYC TV
76 Arabic TV (BK & Ozone Park only); Korean TV (Queens except Jamaica & Ozone Park)
77 ITV (3am-3pm)
91 WRNN
92 RISE
93 NYC TV
95 NY1 Noticias
97 Prayer Channel
99 Remote Control Setup
199 DTV Preview
309 Pay-Per-View Preview
503 ITV (3am-3pm, Basic)/ITV Gold (Premium)
507 The Arabic Channel
509 NGTV (3am-3pm, Basic)/NGTV Premium (Premium)
511 The Korean Channel
512 Media Korea
601-645 Music Choice

702 WCBS HDTV
704 WNBC HDTV
705 WNYW HD
706 Discovery HD Theater
707 WABC HDTV
708 YES HD (HD Specials)
709 WWOR HD
710 TNT in HD
711 WPIX-HD
712 MSG HD (HD Specials)
713 Thirteen HD
714 Kids Thirteen
729 WABC News Now
730 WABC TV Plus
731 NBC 4 Weather Plus
732 NBC 4.4
740 Universal HD
741 SportsNet NY HD
750 WNJN SDTV
801 NY1 Noticias
807 Azteca America
Channels missing 3TNT, 81 - 90, 100 - 160, 257, 1000 - 1028on demand, and a couple more.
Hope this helps with your decision

*PS, there is only a $10 savings if you go with the starter pack. IMO it is not worth the savings to lose as much as you do.

The only net that has exclusivity in the 1st 2 rounds of the NHL playoffs is NBC.
And they'll have 2 Rangers games (gm 2 in Atl and gm 6 in NYC)
Thank GOD we don't get to see Versus screw up the Rags' games ...
their production values rate low ... Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Sabres production values much higher ... and never miss the puck or a replay ... like Versus does.
I read that versus has had some of the best HD coverage of hockey, was I misinformed?

For all the Ranger fans, GO DEVILS!!, Nah I am just playing with you guys.
With NBC broadcasting 2 gamse(homeand away) at least we know we have one away game that will be in HD. The others are still up in the air. Something to look for, if they make it to the finals all the games will be in HD. :D

I'm looking at ways to lower my friggin timewarner bill and don't watch all those channels.Depending on what packages or channels you already have – premiums, road runner, discontinued old packages— these will be bargaining chips for you.

I would try calling in the evening and chatting it up with a CSR. Tell them you’re considering dropping TW. You're switching over to satellite or that FIOS is now in your neighborhood (regardless if they are or not). See if they can rework your bill with you over the phone. You might be surprised. I’ve done this and lowered my bill.

YES just showed a quick clip from last night's game in HD, so they must have had some technical issue that prevented the broadcast to be HD. Hope for better luck tonight.

YES just showed a quick clip from last night's game in HD, so they must have had some technical issue that prevented the broadcast to be HD. Hope for better luck tonight.

They're certainly "teasing us" with that hi def shot of the Metrodome during the pre-game. Well, waddya know, it looks like someone threw the right switch, and this game really WILL be in HD tonite! HALLELUJAH! :) :cool:

nope just checked my guide it currently states that beyond the glory airs at 7PM thurs. followed by boxing.

True, but for what it's worth MSG (27) also shows beyond the glory and boxing, and we all know that's not happening with them airing the game.

HD tonite! HALLELUJAH! :) :cool: :) YES it is!

Anyone watching Boston Legal right now on ABC? It isn't in HD :-(

Anyone watching Boston Legal right now on ABC? It isn't in HD :-(I think ABC is having problems with their HD tonight.
Dancing With The Stars, on earlier, was not in HD either. This was reported elsewhere so it was not a local issue.

Anyone watching Boston Legal right now on ABC? It isn't in HD :-(

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=832485

YES just showed a quick clip from last night's game in HD, so they must have had some technical issue that prevented the broadcast to be HD. Hope for better luck tonight.

I called YES today and they did confrm that all Yankee games will be in HD and that Monday night's problem was indeed a technical glitch that caused the game to be in SD.

I called YES today and they did confrm that all Yankee games will be in HD and that Monday night's problem was indeed a technical glitch that caused the game to be in SD. :cool: Good news. I guess we can re-chain the hounds. ;)

I called YES today and they did confrm that all Yankee games will be in HD and that Monday night's problem was indeed a technical glitch that caused the game to be in SD.

Indeed last nights away game WAS in HD (and sure did look good especially as I tuned to it right before A-Rod homered!). They are on-air touting other games as being in HD, especially away games.

BUT, it was odd. Normally, the sports channels are good about showing 4:3 ads by using their own design of side pillars. BUT last night it seemed YES was switching to a 480 signal from the get go instead of always sending a HD signal and inserting their own side pillars.

Still, I was very skeptical, but it does look like they intend to cover most games in HD; I'm sure there will be frak-ups along the way, but their move is to be applauded.

As with the ABC frak-up last night, why don't these idiots put up a freaking crawl to tell us what's up? It's almost like they are doing the politician thing, deny, deny, deny. Which NEVER works, they will always get caught.

Noticed the IPG schedule for MSG shows the playoff game tomorrow night. No HDTV badge, but that isn't 100% reliable. Looks like it's going to be SD...

How Freakin Awsome Is Planet Earth On Discovery Hd?

i dont understand why TODAY there is an issue with road games in HD. EVERY SPORTS GAME HAS AN HD BROADCAST, we are at that point now in HD broadcasting. So all YES HD would have to do is pick up the HD broadcast of the Home team THEY ARE PLAYING. THAT is how ESPN does it, they just take the same HD feed of the home team they are covering. SO ALL KNICKS, YANKS, RANGERS, METS and EVEN DRAGONS (Arena Football???? huh?) should be in HD.

How Freakin Awsome Is Planet Earth On Discovery Hd? :cool: Great looking HD. You might also be interested in this thread :)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=824343&page=1&pp=30

i dont understand why TODAY there is an issue with road games in HD. EVERY SPORTS GAME HAS AN HD BROADCAST, we are at that point now in HD broadcasting. So all YES HD would have to do is pick up the HD broadcast of the Home team THEY ARE PLAYING. THAT is how ESPN does it, they just take the same HD feed of the home team they are covering. SO ALL KNICKS, YANKS, RANGERS, METS and EVEN DRAGONS (Arena Football???? huh?) should be in HD.

I'm sure they don't do it because, during Mets, Yankees games, you would be getting a lot of shots of the opposing players and dugouts. Personally I wouldn't give a damn, I just want the game in HD. We should have the option.

I called YES today and they did confrm that all Yankee games will be in HD and that Monday night's problem was indeed a technical glitch that caused the game to be in SD.
Now I feel a lot better. They had me waiting for away games in HD when I read the announcement and when it wasn't I was really disappointed. Didn't watch last night's game at home but I will get to see tonights game in it's HD glory.

BSG alert!! For all the BSG fans season 3 is being replayed in marathon form. All episodes over three days on Sci-Fi May 16 - 18 8am -3pm. Get your DVR's ready. Not in HD though, you can still get the HD version on UniversalHD on saturday nights. Universal is in the middle of season three right now. I know there are a few of you here that will love to hear this news.

i dont understand why TODAY there is an issue with road games in HD. EVERY SPORTS GAME HAS AN HD BROADCAST, we are at that point now in HD broadcasting. So all YES HD would have to do is pick up the HD broadcast of the Home team THEY ARE PLAYING. THAT is how ESPN does it, they just take the same HD feed of the home team they are covering. SO ALL KNICKS, YANKS, RANGERS, METS and EVEN DRAGONS (Arena Football???? huh?) should be in HD.
There is a problem because each team has it's own camera crew with it's own cameras. Plus HD cost a lot of money. It cost a lot to set up and install HD equipment for those road games. I am with you they should share feeds. But then again people will lose jobs and I am not into taking food out of people's mouths.
But now it really is a mute point because all games Yankees this year, Nets next season will be all in HD(unless problems occur like Mon). Mets, Rangers, Devils and Islanders will soon follow. The last 2 don't matter untill we get a HD channel for them.

:eek: Hey, they’re saying, in the OTA thread, that CBS news is on right now in HD. I hope we’re getting the HD feed too. :cool: I can't verify it but I guess I'll know soon enough. :)

:eek: Hey, they’re saying, in the OTA thread, that CBS news is on right now in HD. I hope we’re getting the HD feed too. :cool: I can't verify it but I guess I'll know soon enough. :)

YES...IT'S TRUE!! I'm watching it in HD, thanks to your "heads up" there, Larry. :D

:eek: Hey, they’re saying, in the OTA thread, that CBS news is on right now in HD. I hope we’re getting the HD feed too. :cool: I can't verify it but I guess I'll know soon enough. :)

The PQ is excelllent as well!!! What a nice surprise.

The PQ is excelllent as well!!! What a nice surprise.

Yes it =is=. :)

Any other feedback on wcbs-DT??
How is the audio?

Any other feedback on wcbs-DT??
How is the audio?

It was fine. Now the audio on these Yankee games on YES HD has been kinda weird, IMO....every so often Michael Kay's audio level gets VERY LOUD, almost distortion-level stuff.

Just to let everyone know, WCBS News is now in HD.

WCBS, WNBC & WABC News is now in HD.

...I will get to see tonights game in it's HD glory.

And miss the Rangers first play off game? For the sixth/seventh baseball game out of 162?

Just to let everyone know, WCBS News is now in HD.

WCBS, WNBC & WABC News is now in HD.
Does anybody really care? aren't we all watching ABC & NBC. However, thanks for the heads up. I know a lot of us here at AVS are from the NBC dominance generation and the rest is from The ABC wonder years. This is why CBS always comes in last.
Plus come on guys, it is CBS. It should be a given that the HD will be great. I don't think I can remeber a show in HD that CBS has done wrong.

It was fine. Now the audio on these Yankee games on YES HD has been kinda weird, IMO....every so often Michael Kay's audio level gets VERY LOUD, almost distortion-level stuff.

I have found that audio on YES can vary quite wildly. I remember several games last season where they really did a bang up job, and I mean they had 5 channels cooking, you HEARD it like you were really sitting in the middle of all the fans. The crack of the bat was amazingly lifelike. Other times, it sounded like everything was "typical lo-fi TV sound" and very mono sounding coming from my center channel.

And miss the Rangers first play off game? For the sixth/seventh baseball game out of 162?
oops Sorry, didn't mean to miss the playoffs. I just wanted to see the metrodome in HD. Remember the Yanks might only play a home /away series with them, so we really don't get to see that stadium enough.

some good news for hockey fans.

VS games (at least for Thursday and Friday) are showing up on INHD.

(This may only be because the VS-Golf-HD channel normally does Golf on Thursday and Friday nights, but lets see what happens... this probably wont matter for NY/NJ games anyways until the VS coverage is exclusive later in the postseason)

Calgary vs. Detroit on Versus-HD via INHD in now on.

unfortunately I'm watching my rangers now, hopefully this will continue throughout the playoffs as no TWC division added golf/versus-HD.

Calgary vs. Detroit on Versus-HD via INHD in now on.

unfortunately I'm watching my rangers now, hopefully this will continue throughout the playoffs as no TWC division added golf/versus-HD.

It probably wont - see my post just above....

Why do my SD stations on TWC look so much worse then I remember seeing them on my old SD TV. HD stations look great on my HDTV (768p native resolution on my 50in HDTV), but the SD stations look worse then ever?

Why do SD TV channels look so bad on HDTV's?


Please advise. Thanks

Why do my SD stations on TWC look so much worse then I remember seeing them on my old SD TV. HD stations look great on my HDTV (768p native resolution on my 50in HDTV), but the SD stations look worse then ever?

Why do SD TV channels look so bad on HDTV's?


Please advise. Thanks

Probably because you're not used to seeing an SD image stretched so big
(a 50 inch 16:9 widescreen HDTV is about a 42 inch 4:3 TV....)

SD picture gets worse as its stretched more, since there is less information to display per pixel.

My HDTV is a 50in plasma and it does stretch the picture but still, i don't remember a 42in 4:3 image looking as blurry as it does on my 768p 50in TV when watching SD.

Are there any other factors that effect SD images on HD sets?

thanks for the feedback.

My HDTV is a 50in plasma and it does stretch the picture but still, i don't remember a 42in 4:3 image looking as blurry as it does on my 768p 50in TV when watching SD.

Are there any other factors that effect SD images on HD sets?

thanks for the feedback.

Once you start watching HD, SD starts to look so much worse.

some good news for hockey fans.

VS games (at least for Thursday and Friday) are showing up on INHD.

(This may only be because the VS-Golf-HD channel normally does Golf on Thursday and Friday nights, but lets see what happens... this probably wont matter for NY/NJ games anyways until the VS coverage is exclusive later in the postseason)

Well let's hope this holds up througout the playoffs. I was great to see the Rangers win tonight...but I'm still very upset about the game not being in HD. MSG really let me down. Pretty sad they didn't step up and do it right.

My HDTV is a 50in plasma and it does stretch the picture but still, i don't remember a 42in 4:3 image looking as blurry as it does on my 768p 50in TV when watching SD.

Are there any other factors that effect SD images on HD sets?

thanks for the feedback.

let the cable box do the upscaling, go to settings---> more--> format and leave 1080i only and see if sucks less.

My HDTV is a 50in plasma and it does stretch the picture but still, i don't remember a 42in 4:3 image looking as blurry as it does on my 768p 50in TV when watching SD.

Are there any other factors that effect SD images on HD sets?

thanks for the feedback.
All the answers for this query are dead on. These guys are always on the ball to help. There are many reasons, but blurriness can also be cause by sitting distance. The further one gets from all these TV's the better the PQ would look. I don't know why, it just does.
Like Berk said HD is ruining the SD PQ for us because HD is just that dam good.
My best advice that I have told everyone, if you still have you old TV, or another TV watch them both together, now that you watch HD you see every flaw in the signal we receive in our houses for SD programing. However, by looking at both TV's you will see that signal wasn't as good as you thought it was. I tried this and I never complained about SD again. Because the PQ coming out of my old Sony Wega 36" was not good at all. But it did look good pre-HD. DTV looked excellent when it arrived a few years ago, but now there is now contest.
You also need to remember this, this is the one important thing. These TV's are made with HD in mind. Not SD! They accept all signals but the TV is always trying to improve the quality of the signal, because of this the TV may amplify the flaws in the SD signal. You just have to do a trial and error with the user controls to help you maximize your PQ for SD.
One thing people have down is set different settings for HD & SD, the other is hook up HDMI for HD programing and Component for SD programing. I don't know how many inputs you have but this is a good start. Good luck

Well let's hope this holds up througout the playoffs. I was great to see the Rangers win tonight...but I'm still very upset about the game not being in HD. MSG really let me down. Pretty sad they didn't step up and do it right.

I just wonder if somewhere else in this country, people WERE seeing that game in HD? Only a guess, but I'd speculate that indeed it was being shown in HD... elsewhere. How pathetic that in their home market, we only get SD.

Great job on promoting a sport that needs all the good press it can get!

Well let's hope this holds up througout the playoffs. I was great to see the Rangers win tonight...but I'm still very upset about the game not being in HD. MSG really let me down. Pretty sad they didn't step up and do it right.
Really, the game wasn't in HD? I was at a friends house with cablevision with no HDTV. That is horrible, it isn't like the Knicks were playing. Maybe it is an approval issue. Because the cameras are bigger, more wiring and a much bigger truck is involed. Just a thought. Either way it is a not right. Of all things the complete playoffs should be in HD in all sports.

I just wonder if somewhere else in this country, people WERE seeing that game in HD? Only a guess, but I'd speculate that indeed it was being shown in HD... elsewhere. How pathetic that in their home market, we only get SD.

Great job on promoting a sport that needs all the good press it can get!
It is a safe guess to say it was in HD down south. However there were so many games last night that I would be positive in saying Atlanta and surrounding areas were the only areas with HD.

Cable guy came and installed a SA Explorer 3100........ is this POS an HD box? I'm trying to tune the 700 channels and I'm only getting 714 and above. Called TWC and they said wait 1 hour for some ARU to reset.

Did I get duped?

Cable guy came and installed a SA Explorer 3100........ is this POS an HD box? I'm trying to tune the 700 channels and I'm only getting 714 and above. Called TWC and they said wait 1 hour for some ARU to reset.

Did I get duped?I’m pretty sure that the 3100 is SD unless it says on it 3100HD. Does it have component connections on the back-- the red, green and blue video connectors?

no components just RCA and Svideo... and its old as hell... 2002

POS TWC!

no components just RCA and Svideo... and its old as hell... 2002

POS TWC!

You don't need a person to install the box for you - just go to a TWC location and get a new box.... the right box....

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/customer/locations.html

Yea... about to go exchange it.....

Pretty stupid though.....the service sheet has HD install typed all over it, not to mention an HDTV sitting in front of his face.. and the monkey still hooks up an SD box.

Do I need to provide my own component cables? Or does TWC provide that?

Yes, they supply component cables. You may have to specifically ask for them, though. Make sure to take back the cables you got from the installer.

no components just RCA and Svideo... and its old as hell... 2002

POS TWC!Definitely SD.

If they scheduled you an appointment for an HD box and they screwed up, you definitely have a right to complain and get something in return- at least a free month, or maybe, in addition. free premiums.

I don’t know what your circumstances are but if you can, go to one of their centers and swap it out. Otherwise you might have to wait for another appointment. Definitely raise hell.

Edit: I see others here already said the same thing.

Thank you everyone for all your help. I was able to get the box swapped and the activation fee waved.

They gave me a 3250. I hooked it up via component as well as coax to my HD set. Via the component input, the channel guide and SD channels look very blocky. Via the coax input, the channel guide and SD channels look a bit smoother albeit grainy. HD as you all are aware is via component or nothing.

In other words, the channel guide and SD channels look better through the coax. Does anyone switch between both inputs to watch SD / HD? Should I just always use the component input and learn to live with the blocky channel guide and SD channels?

Lastly, are there hack/tips to the 3250HD I should be aware of?

Thank you everyone for all your help. I was able to get the box swapped and the activation fee waved.

They gave me a 3250. I hooked it up via component as well as coax to my HD set. Via the component input, the channel guide and SD channels look very blocky. Via the coax input, the channel guide and SD channels look a bit smoother albeit grainy. HD as you all are aware is via component or nothing.

In other words, the channel guide and SD channels look better through the coax. Does anyone switch between both inputs to watch SD / HD? Should I just always use the component input and learn to live with the blocky channel guide and SD channels?

Lastly, are there hack/tips to the 3250HD I should be aware of?
I have my 3250HD hooked up via DVI, but then I'm running a CRT display. I've gotten used to how bad SD looks, but then I don't consume very much SD channel content.

Have you found a way to change the grey sidebars to black? Or do you run stretch 4:3?

I found that my 3250 output was set to 1080i only, resulting in the superzoomed channel guide. I enabled 480i and 720p output in addition to 1080i, and the SD channels look better now. Only downside is my set takes 2 seconds to match the boxes output.

EDIT: Just realized I was digressing from the original topic of this thread. I will from now on use the proper sub-forums for questions. Thanks again to all those who helped.

Not that it really matters (for many reasons :rolleyes: ) …but tonight, the Knicks vs. the Nets are in HD on MSG HD (the Knick station and it’s an away game)…but... the game is SD :confused: on MY9HD, the Nets station along with YES.

I hope this is not what’s in store for us this summer when the Yankees are on MY9HD. :rolleyes:

I hope this is not what’s in store for us this summer when the Yankees are on MY9HD. :rolleyes:

nah, it should be in HD.

I guess this just show's that YES can't broadcast to different HD games at the same time.
1 under the yes brand, and 1 under the my9 brand.

nah, it should be in HD.

I guess this just show's that YES can't broadcast to different HD games at the same time.
1 under the yes brand, and 1 under the my9 brand.What two? There wasn't any game on YES while the basketball game was playing. The Yankees game started after the basketball game.

i'm pretty sure the pregame show on YES was in HD at around 9:30.
Nets ran on my9 until 10:00

i'm pretty sure the pregame show on YES was in HD at around 9:30.
Nets ran on my9 until 10:00 :cool: You're probably correct. I couldn't stomach the basketball game.

:cool: You're probably correct. I couldn't stomach the basketball game.

I can 100% confirm that YES needs to use the YESHD satellite feed to broadcast games on My9. And since they couldn't have the feed available for the entire basketball game, they chose not to do the game in HD at all.

(Last year, for the one Yankee game in HD on My9, the game was also on YESHD (not YES), for those systems that had an active channel for YESHD 24/7 (TWC turned it off and on whenever they pleased.....) - I don't think that will be the case again, since they will probably make sure the YES-SD feed is properly in place on the now 24/7 YESHD channel...)

Tuesday night is the first game of the season on My9 for the Yankees..... lets see what happens....

I could not for the LIFE of me find the channel showing Thur's Islander-BUFF game. It was non-existent on the TWC on-air guide, this past Thur, and i must have scrolled thru well over 100 channels. Can anyone tell me where it =was/is=?? Thanks.

I could not for the LIFE of me find the channel showing Thur's Islander-BUFF game. It was non-existent on the TWC on-air guide, this past Thur, and i must have scrolled thru well over 100 channels. Can anyone tell me where it =was/is=?? Thanks.

It wont be in the guide.
They never are.

It was on channel 51

MSG2 and FSNY2 are always on either 51 or 60 (Tv Guide Channel or CSPAN2)

It wont be in the guide.

It ws on channel 51

MSG2 and FSNY2 are always on either 51 or 60 (Tv Guide Channel or CSPAN2)

THANK you! I'll make a note of it. I have no =idea= how i missed that, since i scrolled thru everything, from 1-100...maybe they were in commercial or something. :confused:

Did everyone note that the VS logo was frequently seen on NBC's Saturday Rangers/Thrashers game?

More importantly, our guys are playing VERY good hockey.

Did everyone note that the VS logo was frequently seen on NBC's Saturday Rangers/Thrashers game?

More importantly, our guys are playing VERY good hockey.

Yes they are! Now if only TWC would get their act together and add the Golf/VS HD channel things would be great. Well that and if I could find someone to swap my game 4 tickets for their game 3 tickets.

I know this is kinda of early for this question but can anyone tell me if the May 5th boxing fight between Dela Hoya and Mayweather will be in HD.

I know this is kinda of early for this question but can anyone tell me if the May 5th boxing fight between Dela Hoya and Mayweather will be in HD.


I too want to know the answer to this question. Every once in a blue moon they will broadcast HD PPV BOXING on channel 720. But in the past year they have broadcasted ZERO fights on on HD PPV. I love watching boxing but i am not holding my breath on this one. But you never know this fight is gonna be one of the biggest most ordered PPV fights ever. It would be a real bummer for TWC not to broadcast this fight on 720 or HD for that matter. One thing i can say ,for sure, is the weekend following the Dela Hoya/Mayweather fight, HBO will re-air the broadcast in HD.

I too want to know the answer to this question. Every once in a blue moon they will broadcast HD PPV BOXING on channel 720. But in the past year they have broadcasted ZERO fights on on HD PPV. I love watching boxing but i am not holding my breath on this one. But you never know this fight is gonna be one of the biggest most ordered PPV fights ever. It would be a real bummer for TWC not to broadcast this fight on 720 or HD for that matter. One thing i can say ,for sure, is the weekend following the Dela Hoya/Mayweather fight, HBO will re-air the broadcast in HD.

the HD-PPV channel disappeared over a year ago.

720 is now Starz-HD

So the answer is most likely no.

Cable guy came and installed a SA Explorer 3100........ is this POS an HD box? I'm trying to tune the 700 channels and I'm only getting 714 and above. Called TWC and they said wait 1 hour for some ARU to reset.

Did I get duped?
Ok first thing first, the 3100 is a very old model(released 2002) However there is a 3100 w/hd and without HD. So make make sure your box says HD on it. You bought this TV you should be running with the best cables available which would be HDMI to HDMI or DVI to HDMI. This box doesn't have that option. It is component or nothing. Remember youneed at a min to use component to be able to see HD properly. You didn't say if you were interested in a DVR, if you are this STB does not have a DVR. If you don't want a DVR you should complain and ask for the SA3250HD. If you want a DVR you ask for the 8300HDDVR.

IMO you should go to your nearest cable store and request their updated newest model. They switch with no problem, Just let them know it wasn't working properly. Just make sure you have a HDMI connection on your new box.

:cool: You're probably correct. I couldn't stomach the basketball game.
Why not? the Knicks rule. Greatest team ever to never win a championship in my generation. They keep in the hunt till the final 6 game losing streak of the year, but at least we get to see them in HD. It looks so good that you can actually smell the stank diesease infested me first club in your house!!

Why not? the Knicks rule. Greatest team ever to never win a championship in my generation. They keep in the hunt till the final 6 game losing streak of the year, but at least we get to see them in HD. It looks so good that you can actually smell the stank diesease infested me first club in your house!!

Thing is, if the Knicks do not get their act together soon, NY fans will be flocking over to Brooklyn in 2-3 years for their basketball goodness.

As spectacular as it looks, i sure wish they weren't broadcasting in that annoying DD 2.0 :(

As spectacular as it looks, i sure wish they weren't broadcasting in that annoying DD 2.0 :(

their weather graphics are a lot sharper & detailed than wnbc & wabc.

their weather graphics are a lot sharper & detailed than wnbc & wabc.

OH yes, spectacular graphics, no argument about that.

On this sad and sickening day in our history, it's nice to see that tonite's Yankees game on My9 is in real HD, as advertised. We can never be too sure when dealing with TWC.

It wasn't in HD for the intro and I began to worry but they flipped the switch for HD a few seconds later.

It wasn't in HD for the intro and I began to worry but they flipped the switch for HD a few seconds later.

Cool. I missed the pre-game, as i was watching CNN...didn't tune in until the bottom of the 1st.

On this sad and sickening day in our history, it's nice to see that tonite's Yankees game on My9 is in real HD, as advertised. We can never be too sure when dealing with TWC.Cool :cool: thanks for the tip. I assume you’re talking about VT. Yes... that sucks... But did you know, on this day, in NY Yankee history, in 1929, Babe Ruth married his second wife Clair, at 5:45 in the morning because he had a game that day but it was rained out so they enjoyed the day together as a honeymoon. ;)

I watch NY 1 in the morning. :)

thank goodness the rangers are at home.
I wouldn't been able to enjoy game 3 as I should if it were in ATL & in SD!

http://www.tvpredictions.com/voom041707.htm

"Several publications today reported that Time Warner may be interested in buying Cablevision, which is based in New York and serves the tri-state NY area."

"FT reports that Time Warner, Comcast and Liberty Media could be interested in Rainbow."

http://www.tvpredictions.com/voom041707.htm

On this sad and sickening day in our history, it's nice to see that tonite's Yankees game on My9 is in real HD, as advertised. We can never be too sure when dealing with TWC.

It looks good, but not as good as YES in 1080i. My 9 is 720p.

It looks good, but not as good as YES in 1080i. My 9 is 720p.

TRUE, but....i'll take what i can get. Plus an easy Yankee victory for a change...it's allll good. :)

Don't know if anyone noticed but here in Queens there are 3 analog channels that have disappeard - 6, 37, and 72.

Noticed it when I went to check on the crumby weather report on my bedroom TV without the STB.

Could we be getting some new HD channels soon??

any1 here watching nets vs bulls on my9 right now...how come this game aint in hd? it is a home gm btw.

ps - yesterday yankee gm on my9 was in hd though...y not nets vs bulls? wtf? someone here said awhile back that my9 would carry hd basketball gm?

any1 here watching nets vs bulls on my9 right now...how come this game aint in hd? it is a home gm btw.

ps - yesterday yankee gm on my9 was in hd though...y not nets vs bulls? wtf? someone here said awhile back that my9 would carry hd basketball gm?

It was my fear that the Yankee games on my9 were going to be in that ED crap.
But nonetheless, it's inexcusable for them to have the Nets HOME game in that format.
:(

It was my fear that the Yankee games on my9 were going to be in that ED crap.
But nonetheless, it's inexcusable for them to have the Nets HOME game in that format.
:(

u mean yesterday yankees' gm were in ed and not hd? what is ed? if it was ed...it looks pretty good to me.

any1 here watching nets vs bulls on my9 right now...how come this game aint in hd? it is a home gm btw.

ps - yesterday yankee gm on my9 was in hd though...y not nets vs bulls? wtf? someone here said awhile back that my9 would carry hd basketball gm?


YES can only produce one HD game at a time.

Last night they only produced the Yankee game... so it was HD on My9.

Today they are producing both the Yankees on YES and the Nets on My9.... so only the Yankees can be in HD.

It was my fear that the Yankee games on my9 were going to be in that ED crap.
But nonetheless, it's inexcusable for them to have the Nets HOME game in that format.
:(


All Yankee games produced by YES (on YES Network and My9) are in HD this season (except for the first road game which had production problems.... but hopefully thats in the past...)

no more "Enhanced Definition" garbage (It was basically a "sharp" 4:3 picture with clearer sound.... but not HD - they did that for a bunch of road games last season.... but had nothing to do with the games on WWOR/My9)

Nets are HD on ESPN-HD, it's not blacked out.

Don't know if anyone noticed but here in Queens there are 3 analog channels that have disappeard - 6, 37, and 72.

Noticed it when I went to check on the crumby weather report on my bedroom TV without the STB.

Could we be getting some new HD channels soon??

I'm glad if they did. hope they do it as well here in manhattan.

dropping 3 analog channels can free up space for a max of 9 HD channels not 3.

anybody else from queens can confirm this. As well as Bklyn?

I recall a post about 2 analog channels being disabled, now we see another 3.

6, 37, and 72 are all carrying programming.

So how does one tell if you are getting analog or digital? I was under the impression we can't really tell unless we have an analog box and TV and find these channels blank now...

http://www.tvpredictions.com/voom041707.htm

"Several publications today reported that Time Warner may be interested in buying Cablevision, which is based in New York and serves the tri-state NY area."

"FT reports that Time Warner, Comcast and Liberty Media could be interested in Rainbow."

http://www.tvpredictions.com/voom041707.htm
That just means another 6 mil people that don't have ESPN2. Also it means more people will be joining us on this thread posting their hopes and aggravations.

Did anyone experience Clicking during the second half hour? It sounded like someone was plaing with that little toy that let out the click click click. Very annoying but at least the sound din't sut down.

Did anyone experience Clicking during the second half hour? It sounded like someone was plaing with that little toy that let out the click click click. Very annoying but at least the sound din't sut down.

I heard it early on for a few minutes.

I heard it early on for a few minutes.
I went to the LOST thread, apparently it was a nation wide issue. I was ready to freak out on TWC, but they weren't the ones at fault, this time.

That just means another 6 mil people that don't have ESPN2. Also it means more people will be joining us on this thread posting their hopes and aggravations.

I hope this happens, but not until 2008. Their still investing a lot of $$$ in those former Comcast & Adelphia systems they got last year.

I recall a post about 2 analog channels being disabled, now we see another 3.

6, 37, and 72 are all carrying programming.

So how does one tell if you are getting analog or digital? I was under the impression we can't really tell unless we have an analog box and TV and find these channels blank now...
A few years back TWC converted several remaining analog channels, (seen with digital converters), to digital simulcast. But there still might be some analogs seen with digital converters. Entering diagnostics shows whether a channel is delivered 64 or 256 QAM (digital) or analog (switched analog within converters). A direct cable connection to any NTSC tuner (VCR, set), then a channel scan, reveals remaining NTSC analog channels, both viewable and scrambled (requiring a analog converter). On many displays scrambled channels (different from encrypted) just lose horizontal sync periodically. -- John

For all of you complaining of lack of HD channels with TWC. Just be glad you aren't from the UK. They are buying HDTV's at a similar pace to ours but they have even less HD, if any at all to really enjoy their HDTV purchase. See article:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=836986

Maybe some of us will be more thankful for what we have instead or hating on TWC. Sure we should have more, but it is better then having nothing at all.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6435282.html

Cable Operator Claims It Has Bandwidth for 100 HD Channels
By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 4/20/2007 12:02:00 PM
Time Warner Cable last month completed an analog-reclamation project in its Staten Island, N.Y., system that freed up enough bandwidth for 100 HD channels.

Director of corporate communications Maureen Huff confirmed that the project was completed in March, but she did not provide the number of channels retired from the analog tier. Huff added that 1.1 million of Time Warner’s 1.4 million customers in the New York/New Jersey region subscribe to digital cable.

The project’s disclosure was buried in court documents Time Warner Cable filed as part of its false-advertising lawsuit against DirecTV.The cable operator was attempting to demonstrate that it was able to match DirecTV’s capacity claims by pointing to the Staten Island analog-reclamation project.

Senior network engineer Ron Boyer, in a declaration dated March 4, described the Staten Island project as expected to yield enough bandwidth to carry as many as 100 new HD channels. “TWC is not limited to approximately 30 HD channels, even in the near-term, because it may readily redeploy some of its existing bandwidth to accommodate more HD channels,” he said.

However, U.S. District Court Judge Laura Taylor Swain, in denying Time Warner Cable’s request for an injunction blocking DirecTV’s HD ads, noted, “TWC was unable to state affirmatively that the reclaimed bandwidth [in Staten Island] would be used for increasing HD capacity, as opposed to other uses.”

Boyer’s reference to 100 HD channels indicated that the Staten Island system -- which serves an estimated 100,000 subscribers, according to research firm Backchannelmedia -- ceased broadcasting at least 30, and perhaps as many as 40, analog channels.

The project mirrored a similar migration underway by Comcast in Chicago, where some number of the area’s 1.8 million subscribers will be forced to install Motorola set-tops by July 1 to continue receiving the expanded-basic channel lineup.

Comcast has said that a “distinct minority” of subscribers are affected. In Chicago, Comcast is eliminating 38 channels but keeping a basic 34-channel analog tier that comprises local broadcast, public, educational and government channels and a smattering of others.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6435282.html

we could only hope, But what good is room for 100 channels when there is less than or equal to 30 available. Not including VOOM. But here is to hoping TWC stats freeing up some channels. Like someone mentioned earlier, we have had some channels shut down.

Maybe 2007 will be the year for TWC to catch up AND LEAD THE INDUSTRY. (FINGERS ARE CROSSED)

Making plans to watch the Mets and Yankees tonight. Does anyone know if you can watch a recorded show in one PIP window and live in another? Or alternatively, pause one PIP window, switch to another, then come back and restart.

I would test it myself, but am planning to go out to dinner after work. If you can't do either, I'll have to be sure to be home by 7:15 so I can watch both live.

It doesn't look like this weekend's (Sat & Sun) Mets games on CW11 will be in HD, which really doesn't make any sense to me since SNY handles all facets of production and the games are at Shea.

Making plans to watch the Mets and Yankees tonight. Does anyone know if you can watch a recorded show in one PIP window and live in another? Or alternatively, pause one PIP window, switch to another, then come back and restart.

I would test it myself, but am planning to go out to dinner after work. If you can't do either, I'll have to be sure to be home by 7:15 so I can watch both live.

Take your time, and enjoy your dinner. This is something you certainly will be able to do (watch recorded product on the DVR while doing the PIP thing with live action in another window) :)

It doesn't look like this weekend's (Sat & Sun) Mets games on CW11 will be in HD, which really doesn't make any sense to me since SNY handles all facets of production and the games are at Shea.

If My9 can do it with YES equipment at Yankee Stadium, there's no reason why CW11 can't do it with SNY equipment. I agree, makes no sense. But then again, i'm not surprised, either, being so used to being disappointed with TWC.

Making plans to watch the Mets and Yankees tonight. Does anyone know if you can watch a recorded show in one PIP window and live in another? Or alternatively, pause one PIP window, switch to another, then come back and restart.

I would test it myself, but am planning to go out to dinner after work. If you can't do either, I'll have to be sure to be home by 7:15 so I can watch both live.
I bounce back and forth between both tuners during live shows all of the time pausing and playing. I also do it with recorded shows.

There is a “problem” that occurs when you try pausing a show you are recording. If you pause a show you’re recording and then use the pip and swap to the other tuner, when you swap back to the recorded show you will not be at the paused point. You will be live.

also...
You can use both tuners too, as long as you don’t exceed the buffers while you’re jockeying back and forth. I prefer to record, just in case I change a channel and lose the show.

It doesn't look like this weekend's (Sat & Sun) Mets games on CW11 will be in HD, which really doesn't make any sense to me since SNY handles all facets of production and the games are at Shea.

Yes they will be.

All Mets homes games (on SNY and CW11) are available in HD.

If My9 can do it with YES equipment at Yankee Stadium, there's no reason why CW11 can't do it with SNY equipment. I agree, makes no sense. But then again, i'm not surprised, either, being so used to being disappointed with TWC.

My9 doesn't "do" anything.

YES produces the games and basically sends it to WWOR/My9.

SNY does the same for WPIX/CW11.

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned but from my friends who work at ESPN they say the deal was done with TWC a few weeks ago. They put out a press release but I can't find it. Part of the deal was ESPN2 HD and ESPN Deportes (which carries Champions League soccer for those of you who care) to be added to TWC. Of course we know this is based on bandwidth availabilty but my friends stated that TWC said they would be adding them to their channel line up in NYC within 2 months if not sooner.

EDIT: http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=31462
found the press release. again my friends at espn say within 2 months.

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned but from my friends who work at ESPN they say the deal was done with TWC a few weeks ago. They put out a press release but I can't find it. Part of the deal was ESPN2 HD and ESPN Deportes (which carries Champions League soccer for those of you who care) to be added to TWC. Of course we know this is based on bandwidth availabilty but my friends stated that TWC said they would be adding them to their channel line up in NYC within 2 months if not sooner.

EDIT: http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=31462
found the press release. again my friends at espn say within 2 months.

I'd love to SEE something official on this, but...if true, i will be counting the days.

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned but from my friends who work at ESPN they say the deal was done with TWC a few weeks ago

old info, 3 weeks too late.
thanks anyway. keep talking to those espn contacts about future news though!

Ahhh, I'm ready to cancel my TWC here in NYC, but I don't know what other options I have. I have been having internet/tv issues since I got everything set up. There is a horrible delay when changing channels and the internet speeds vary wildly from 6mb+ in the morning to 30-40kb any time after 3pm. This makes live very difficult when I have to use a VPN for work and I'm running 5-10kb speed tests when connected to the VPN. The last two weeks have been spent on the phone with TWC telling me it was a RoadRunner/Earthlink issue and RR/EL telling me it was a TWC issue. Finally TWC fessed up saying there was something on there end that was wrong and they would send out a tech to fix it. I sat around yesterday waiting for the tech, who never showed up. After 2 hours on the phone they said they would have someone here this morning before noon. I called at 10:00 to find out my appt was cancelled by someone in the office. After spending another 1.5 hours I am here. Ready to cancel my account and throw my cable box/modem out the window. Anyone here work for TWC in NYC that can help me out?

Ahhh, I'm ready to cancel my TWC here in NYC, but I don't know what other options I have. I have been having internet/tv issues since I got everything set up. There is a horrible delay when changing channels and the internet speeds vary wildly from 6mb+ in the morning to 30-40kb any time after 3pm. This makes live very difficult when I have to use a VPN for work and I'm running 5-10kb speed tests when connected to the VPN. The last two weeks have been spent on the phone with TWC telling me it was a RoadRunner/Earthlink issue and RR/EL telling me it was a TWC issue. Finally TWC fessed up saying there was something on there end that was wrong and they would send out a tech to fix it. I sat around yesterday waiting for the tech, who never showed up. After 2 hours on the phone they said they would have someone here this morning before noon. I called at 10:00 to find out my appt was cancelled by someone in the office. After spending another 1.5 hours I am here. Ready to cancel my account and throw my cable box/modem out the window. Anyone here work for TWC in NYC that can help me out?
Go to http://www.nyc.gov and look for the city's Dept. of Information and Technology [DOITT]. Find out who the commissioner is and write a letter. Also put in a complaint -- they have a form that can be filled out and sent in.
DOITT regulates the cable franchises in the city. I used them to iron out a Time Warner problem -- got a lot of apologies, a top-to-bottom service call and free cable for 6 months.

So I just know Rangers fans are going to get screwed next week. VS is going to air some Rangers/Sabres(?) games in the second round and we're going to get stuck with SD, even though TWC can air the VS-HD channel but choose not to. To make matters worse, I have a sinking feeling the games VS chooses to make exclusive will be Rangers home games, effectively making the entire series available to us ONLY IN SD (since MSG-HD hasn't be doing away games.) Please tell me this can't happen!

What excuse does TWC have not to add the Golf/Versus HD channel? They have the bandwidth, and it seems like the logical replacement for INHD2.

I'd love to get an answer from TWC, but that SD loving Melinda Witmer never responds to my emails.

So I just know Rangers fans are going to get screwed next week. VS is going to air some Rangers/Sabres(?) games in the second round and we're going to get stuck with SD, even though TWC can air the VS-HD channel but choose not to. To make matters worse, I have a sinking feeling the games VS chooses to make exclusive will be Rangers home games, effectively making the entire series available to us ONLY IN SD (since MSG-HD hasn't be doing away games.) Please tell me this can't happen!

What excuse does TWC have not to add the Golf/Versus HD channel? They have the bandwidth, and it seems like the logical replacement for INHD2.

I'd love to get an answer from TWC, but that SD loving Melinda Witmer never responds to my emails.

Well first, there's also weekened games on NBC to make up for it a bit.... (I'd guess Game 2 comes out on Saturday or Sunday)

Second, Rangers may play Ottawa and not Buffalo (they play Ottawa if TB beats NJ, and Buffalo if NJ beats TB)

Third, MSG may do road HD this round (since Ottawa and Buffalo are much closer to NYC than Atlanta, and the Islanders are done.... freeing up some resources... and so are the Knicks... which may have been the reason road HD could not be done in the first round)

I was making a point elsewhere and I decided to double check what I thought was fact. Turned out I was correct, TWC's HD lineup in NYC is truly pathetic, more so than I thought.

Digital cable customers get 13 HD channels. Those come with the lowest priced package, but are not extra cost (no, they are NOT "free"). Throwing more money at TWC gets you 4 possible premiums that HAVE HD channels along with 4 in the HDXtra package. Grand total, 21 channels.

Now we see them arguing in court in their suit against D* that they can do them same as D*, deliver 100 HD channels AND deliver them NOW. They use SI as the example, a place they apparently did get rid of ALL analog channels. AND they said without even doing that, their systems had the capacity for 30.

So how come the rest of us don't get the three new channels SI got? And how come the ONLY thing we heard from them is about SDV (which for us is 100% dependant on that Navigator that is SO bad, communities are almost trying to revoke their franchisee agreement over) when they are seeming to say very different things when they are looking to extract money from D*?

And to think I used to stick up for them... and we STILL do not have the replacement channel in the HDXtra tier they swore they would give those subscribers!

So I just know Rangers fans are going to get screwed next week. VS is going to air some Rangers/Sabres(?) games in the second round and we're going to get stuck with SD, even though TWC can air the VS-HD channel but choose not to. To make matters worse, I have a sinking feeling the games VS chooses to make exclusive will be Rangers home games, effectively making the entire series available to us ONLY IN SD (since MSG-HD hasn't be doing away games.) Please tell me this can't happen!

What excuse does TWC have not to add the Golf/Versus HD channel? They have the bandwidth, and it seems like the logical replacement for INHD2.

I'd love to get an answer from TWC, but that SD loving Melinda Witmer never responds to my emails.

ask "BOB".

im moving to brooklyn soon..unfortunetly they dont have twc there...only cable vision.

so is there is thread in avs that has a dedicated thread like this one but with cablevision in nyc? thx.

i just want to know if i get cablevision..what channels am i able to pick up with my qam tuner with their basic service which are local channel like cbs, nbc, fox, etc.

cuz right now with my samsung qam tuner in with twc..im able to pick up all the local ota hd channel plus tnt hd and pay per view/on demand channels.

so is there is thread in avs that has a dedicated thread like this one but with cablevision in nyc.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10356092#post10356092

Well first, there's also weekened games on NBC to make up for it a bit.... (I'd guess Game 2 comes out on Saturday or Sunday)

Second, Rangers may play Ottawa and not Buffalo (they play Ottawa if TB beats NJ, and Buffalo if NJ beats TB)

Third, MSG may do road HD this round (since Ottawa and Buffalo are much closer to NYC than Atlanta, and the Islanders are done.... freeing up some resources... and so are the Knicks... which may have been the reason road HD could not be done in the first round)
we'll have to wait until mon or tues to see what networks get what
in the east ... Buffalo + Rangers
Devils + Ottawa

Buffalo and Devils have home-ice advantage.

CBC very happy to have at least one Eastern Canadian team in there ...
and border teams like Buffalo -and possibly Detroit- too.

NHL won't release official schedule until late Monday, Tuesday at the latest ...
since the games in the West aren't over yet ... Detroit plays tonight and it's Dallas @ Vancouver Monday night ...
but if I have my druthers ... NBC will be all over the Red Wings and the Rangers ...
[if the Wings get in] ...
I'll bet out of the first 4 in the East ...
the RSN's [MSG/MSG Buffalo/FSN-NY] will only get 2 games, with at least one home game ... as Versus can glom onto two games in the series ... and NBC looks for weekend exclusivity in the 1pm-6pm time slot ... and sure to hell wants a Garden home game ... not a Devils home game with empty seats ....
Let's also hope both East games don't share the same time slot - like with the quarterfinals ...

we'll have to wait until mon or tues to see what networks get what
in the east ... Buffalo + Rangers
Devils + Ottawa

Buffalo and Devils have home-ice advantage.

CBC very happy to have at least one Eastern Canadian team in there ...
and border teams like Buffalo -and possibly Detroit- too.

NHL won't release official schedule until late Monday, Tuesday at the latest ...
since the games in the West aren't over yet ... Detroit plays tonight and it's Dallas @ Vancouver Monday night ...
but if I have my druthers ... NBC will be all over the Red Wings and the Rangers ...
[if the Wings get in] ...
I'll bet out of the first 4 in the East ...
the RSN's [MSG/MSG Buffalo/FSN-NY] will only get 2 games, with at least one home game ... as Versus can glom onto two games in the series ... and NBC looks for weekend exclusivity in the 1pm-6pm time slot ... and sure to hell wants a Garden home game ... not a Devils home game with empty seats ....
Let's also hope both East games don't share the same time slot - like with the quarterfinals ...

NBC did mention as they went off the air after the NJ win that they would have Game 2 of the Rangers-Buffalo series - they just didn't know which day yet...

So that's 1 road HD game.

Anyone having problems with their HD channels freezing tonight?

Anyone having problems with their HD channels freezing tonight?

it happened to me while watching ESPN-HD. for like 4 seconds.

Anyone having problems with their HD channels freezing tonight?

Not too bad tonite, but...in general, i have this problem EVERY nite, for at least 5 torture-filled minutes. SOMETIMES tuning away for a minute helps. BTW, once this starts to happen, i find switching from HDMI to component makes =zero= difference in terms of the freezing, stuttering, audio drops, etc. :(

NHL won't release official schedule until late Monday, Tuesday at the latest ...
since the games in the West aren't over yet ...

btw... the schedule for the next round should be official tonight (once they know whether or not Detroit-Calgary goes to a game 7)

NBC did mention as they went off the air after the NJ win that they would have Game 2 of the Rangers-Buffalo series - they just didn't know which day yet...

So that's 1 road HD game.

That's great news. Any chance some of the VS games will simulcast on INHD again this round? I would ask if there's any chance Golf/VS HD gets added to the lineup this week, but I'm not taking that bet.

That's great news. Any chance some of the VS games will simulcast on INHD again this round? I would ask if there's any chance Golf/VS HD gets added to the lineup this week, but I'm not taking that bet.

Thursday and Friday games have a good chance (As they have been there the last 2 weeks, since the Golf Channel gets the Golf-VS HD channel on those nights)

However - there's also an NBA-TV game Thursday at 9pm.... no sign yet whether those few games in the next 2 weeks will be HD or not...

Update:
http://www.nbcsports.com/nhl/1303794/detail.html
NYR-Buf Game 2 this Saturday on NBC-HD

Just wanted to update everybody on whats going on.
I posted this in the TWC national thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328&page=25&pp=60


Future HD channels update


The Movie Channel-HD - is done, supposedly
Food Network-HD - in negotiations
HGTV-HD - in negotiations
Lifetime Movie Network-HD - in negotiations
NFL Network-HD - in negotiations
Outdoor Channel 2-HD – is not in the works


Known Deals Done

HBO-HD
Cinemax-HD
Showtime-HD
Starz-HD
ESPN-HD
ESPN2-HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
INHD
Universal-HD
TNT-HD
Discovery-HD
MHD
A&E-HD
WealthTV-HD - Currently TWC has a deal only for HD-VOD content & only in San Antonio
Golf/Versus-HD - Has the rights to as of 4/1/07, but has not yet added.
National Geographic-HD - has been added only in TWC of Hawaii
Sleuth-HD - Has the rights to, but has not yet added.
ESPN News-HD - coming to TWC in 2008
Disney Channel-HD - coming to TWC in 2008
ABC Family-HD - coming to TWC in 2008


Negotiations Unknown

Chiller-HD
Sci-Fi-HD
USA-HD
Bravo-HD
History-HD
TBS-HD
CNN-HD
CartoonNet-HD
TheWeatherChannel-HD
FX-HD
Speed-HD
Smithsonian-HD
BBC-HD
Al Jazeera-HD
MGM-HD
Big Ten Network-HD
Vatican-HD
The Tennis Channel-HD
TBN-HD
IFC-HD
Toon Disney-HD
MSNBC-HD

VOOM Channels
Rave HD
Equator HD
Gallery HD
Animania HD
Rush HD
Ultra HD
Guy TV HD
Majestic HD
Monsters HD
HD News
Film Fest HD
Kung Fu HD
WorldSport HD
World Cinema HD
Gameplay HD
Family Room HD
Treasure HD

Future HD channels update
The Movie Channel-HD - is done, supposedly
Food Network-HD - in negotiations
HGTV-HD - in negotiations
Lifetime Movie Network-HD - in negotiations
NFL Network-HD - in negotiations
Outdoor Channel 2-HD – is not in the worksAccording to the local Verizon thead, FIOS just added these channels to their lineup. Food HD, HGTV HD and Lifetime HD. I’d love to get the Food Channel in HD but I wonder how many of the shows are in HD.

Update:
http://www.nbcsports.com/nhl/1303794/detail.html
NYR-Buf Game 2 this Saturday on NBC-HD

Unfortunately that was incorrect. :(

Official Schedule:

Game 1 Wednesday at Buffalo
Game 2 Friday at Buffalo
Game 3 Sunday afternoon at MSG
Game 4 Tuesday at MSG
Game 5 Thursday at Buffalo
Game 6 Sunday afternoon at MSG
Game 7 TBD at Buffalo

This really sucks that both weekend (NBC-HD) games are at the Garden. I was hoping for at least one road game in HD. Now we have to hope that MSG-HD broadcasts the road games (which they didn't in round 1) or that TWC either adds Golf/VS HD by Wednesday, or simulcasts their games on INHD. Otherwise this may be a very HD deprived series. :(

The easy difference is you lose all the on-demand channels, you need DTValue to access it. You also lose the stations between 100 and 160. That is a lot to lose for only $10-15. I don't know what the true price is. But there is a lot of cool free on-demand channels that I have found my new "quilty pleasure". All HDTV stays the same so you won't lose those. The best way to save money on the any cable bill is eliminate all premiums. That adds up if you have more then one.
Here is the list so you can decide if having just these channels would be worth it:
Sorry for the length guys.
Channel Channel Name



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Thanks.
These look like pretty much all the channels i watch.
the HD channels are really the only important ones to me.
Now I can't remember why I have the ValuePack.
I vaguely remember that i might've needed to get the DVR.
Is DTValuePack required to get the DVR?

Unfortunately that was incorrect. :(

Official Schedule:

Game 1 Wednesday at Buffalo
Game 2 Friday at Buffalo
Game 3 Sunday afternoon at MSG
Game 4 Tuesday at MSG
Game 5 Thursday at Buffalo
Game 6 Sunday afternoon at MSG
Game 7 TBD at Buffalo

This really sucks that both weekend (NBC-HD) games are at the Garden. I was hoping for at least one road game in HD. Now we have to hope that MSG-HD broadcasts the road games (which they didn't in round 1) or that TWC either adds Golf/VS HD by Wednesday, or simulcasts their games on INHD. Otherwise this may be a very HD deprived series. :(


Well... lets hope if there are any exclusive Versus games - they're games 2 and 6 - since Thursday and Friday games get moved to InHD.

Otherwise, I really do think we will see road-HD from MSG, since the Knicks are done (so no home obligations)

Dear Mr. Broadwayblue,

MSG will be broadcasting the Rangers Semifinal games in HD for the home games only. We apologize for any inconvienance this may have caused. Due to production reasons, we are currently striving to bring you away games in HD format in the near future.

Thank you for your viewership .

Regards,
MSG Media

Andy,
Any word on when we should begin seeing MHD, A&E-HD, ESPN2-HD in Manhattan?

Anyone else get a crappy signal from the camera behind the pitcher last night? On Espn last night and this camera angle looked so bad I thought I was watching 16:9 SD. All other angles looked fine though.

Andy,
Any word on when we should begin seeing MHD, A&E-HD, ESPN2-HD in Manhattan?
probably not until a analog channel is dropped.

if earlier reports are indeed true, I guess queens might see them before manhattan.

Dear Mr. Broadwayblue,

MSG will be broadcasting the Rangers Semifinal games in HD for the home games only. We apologize for any inconvienance this may have caused. Due to production reasons, we are currently striving to bring you away games in HD format in the near future.

Thank you for your viewership .

Regards,
MSG Media

production reasons my @$$.
1. they've done it before.
2. there are no more knicks games to run home and cover.

OK... It's Official.

http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressbox/pressreleases.asp?id=2862
Game 1 7PM Wednesday at Buffalo VersusHD Exclusive
Game 2 7PM Friday at Buffalo MSG/VersusHD
Game 3 2PM Sunday at NYR NBCHD
Game 4 7PM Tuesday at NYR VersusHD Exclusive
*Game 5 7PM Friday at Buffalo MSG/VersusHD
*Game 6 2PM Sunday at NYR NBCHD
*Game 7 7PM Tuesday at Buffalo MSG/VersusHD

So basically.... the worst possible outcome....
2 games in HD out of a possible 7 for us with TWC in NY...


Thanks to everyone who makes these decisions....
MSG... Versus... NBC... the NHL....