So I guess the Nets will be in SD on MY9 tonight since the Yankees are playing at the same time. Pretty lame they can’t tap their head and rub their belly at the same time. :rolleyes:

I don’t see how a lack of HD is the fault of anyone you mentioned.

Versus? Its not their fault that TWC doesn’t carry their HD service.
NBC? Their games are in HD.
NHL? See above
MSG? I think the jury is still out on this one. It is quite possible that MSG will have HD coverage of the games in Buffalo, as they also have a vested interest in pushing HD because of their Cablevision ownership and we have seen a few out of town games (Philly comes to mind) in HD this season.



OK... It's Official.

http://www.newyorkrangers.com/pressbox/pressreleases.asp?id=2862
Game 1 7PM Wednesday at Buffalo VersusHD Exclusive
Game 2 7PM Friday at Buffalo MSG/VersusHD
Game 3 2PM Sunday at NYR NBCHD
Game 4 7PM Tuesday at NYR VersusHD Exclusive
*Game 5 7PM Friday at Buffalo MSG/VersusHD
*Game 6 2PM Sunday at NYR NBCHD
*Game 7 7PM Tuesday at Buffalo MSG/VersusHD

So basically.... the worst possible outcome....
2 games in HD out of a possible 7 for us with TWC in NY...


Thanks to everyone who makes these decisions....
MSG... Versus... NBC... the NHL....

I don’t see how a lack of HD is the fault of anyone you mentioned.

Versus? Its not their fault that TWC doesn’t carry their HD service.
NBC? Their games are in HD.
NHL? See above
MSG? I think the jury is still out on this one. It is quite possible that MSG will have HD coverage of the games in Buffalo, as they also have a vested interest in pushing HD because of their Cablevision ownership and we have seen a few out of town games (Philly comes to mind) in HD this season.

Game 4 - Versus fault for making it exclusive (otherwise we'd have it on MSG-HD since its a home game)

NBC - for wanting Rangers home games so badly they forced a schedule shift (the weekend was supposed to be all game 2s originally - Rangers-Sabers would've been in Buffalo for Game 2 on Saturday in HD)

NHL - for allowing the shift and indirectly screwing the HD audience in the NY area with TWC and Cablevision.

TWCNYC - for not adding VersusGolf HD yet...

MSG - has already confirmed (see post yesterday) that the games in Buffalo will not be in HD on MSG.

Did i forget anyone?

Game 4 - Versus fault for making it exclusive (otherwise we'd have it on MSG-HD since its a home game)

NBC - for wanting Rangers home games so badly they forced a schedule shift (the weekend was supposed to be all game 2s originally - Rangers-Sabers would've been in Buffalo for Game 2 on Saturday in HD)

NHL - for allowing the shift and indirectly screwing the HD audience in the NY area with TWC and Cablevision.

TWCNYC - for not adding VersusGolf HD yet...

MSG - has already confirmed (see post yesterday) that the games in Buffalo will not be in HD on MSG.

Did i forget anyone?

wow, your right. they all pretty much found a way th shaft us. It almost seems like they did it on purpose!

production reasons my @$$.
1. they've done it before.
2. there are no more knicks games to run home and cover.
production reasons - true.
there are only so many [1] hd circuits out of the hsbc arena in buffalo.
for those games they are taken by versus.
everyone else is shut out.
if there's a problem, write the nhl's director of broadcasting, adam acone.

wow, your right. they all pretty much found a way th shaft us. It almost seems like they did it on purpose!

O and i forgot one more thing.

by shifting the series a day - Game 1 probably should've been on Thursday... and that game, with Versus exclusive coverage, would (probably) have be on InHD! (Thursday and Friday games have been there so far.... thank to the Golf channel getting the golf-VS-HD channel on Thursday and Friday nights)

You are honestly mad at VS and NBC for enforcing the exclusivity and right to determine which games they are paying the NHL to show???

...and at the NHL for allowing their partners to do this???

...and as much as I hate to take MSG's side on anything, it really doesn't make financial sense for them to spend the extra cash to do the game in HD since hockey has so few fans and most people DON'T have HD sets yet. (As opposed to YES & NESN who have HD for all their Yankee/Red Sox games because they both have such large audiences.)

Wow. I guess you work for a not-for-profit company either that or you are a conspiracy theorist.

Game 4 - Versus fault for making it exclusive (otherwise we'd have it on MSG-HD since its a home game)

NBC - for wanting Rangers home games so badly they forced a schedule shift (the weekend was supposed to be all game 2s originally - Rangers-Sabers would've been in Buffalo for Game 2 on Saturday in HD)

NHL - for allowing the shift and indirectly screwing the HD audience in the NY area with TWC and Cablevision.

TWCNYC - for not adding VersusGolf HD yet...

MSG - has already confirmed (see post yesterday) that the games in Buffalo will not be in HD on MSG.

Did i forget anyone?

You are honestly mad at VS and NBC for enforcing the exclusivity and right to determine which games they are paying the NHL to show???

...and at the NHL for allowing their partners to do this???

...and as much as I hate to take MSG's side on anything, it really doesn't make financial sense for them to spend the extra cash to do the game in HD since hockey has so few fans and most people DON'T have HD sets yet. (As opposed to YES & NESN who have HD for all their Yankee/Red Sox games because they both have such large audiences.)

Wow. I guess you work for a not-for-profit company either that or you are a conspiracy theorist.

I'm just venting....

And MSG does do road HD games regionally during the season (Boston, Pittsburgh)... so this isn't a question of finances. Anyways, right now The Rangers are the best thing the MSG network has going for it right now, and they need to market them appropriately.

im moving to brooklyn soon..unfortunetly they dont have twc there...only cable vision.

so is there is thread in avs that has a dedicated thread like this one but with cablevision in nyc? thx.

i just want to know if i get cablevision..what channels am i able to pick up with my qam tuner with their basic service which are local channel like cbs, nbc, fox, etc.

cuz right now with my samsung qam tuner in with twc..im able to pick up all the local ota hd channel plus tnt hd and pay per view/on demand channels.
good luck!!! It doesn't matter which cable company you get, there will always be a thread where there are many angry consumers. I have had TWC, since before it was TWC, what was the name? quicks or something like that. I never knew about how bad TWC was until I joined AVS. however, I have been a customer since start-up in Queens, NY. Phone calls to complain the cable company were few and far between. Back then they knew what they were talking about, They were there to serve you, they wouldn't give up until the problem was solved. The down pattern really started when TWC started expanding. More people were hired to help but they had limited knowledge and/or education to make TWC subscriber friendly. Why the hell am I talking to an operator in NC when I am in NYC. Which have led to sub-par "everything". I guess what I am trying to say, becarefull of what you ask for. You will be subscribing the Monopoly company know as Cablevision. Which means they will have to generate a channel line up for the majority not the minority, like TWC does. No matter how much it hurts me to say this, the HD subscribers are the minority. Right now extra SD channels( I hope "Chiller"will be the next SD channel) are easier to add when only a small percentage has a HD set, let alone the newbies that think they are watching HD because the SD channel says so. As long as the Flat panel war continues we will be able to say to grow to the majority then the Cable companies will take notice. When that happens(I say early 2008) then the companies will focus on getting as much HD as possible. Then we all will take a good luck and decide FIOS or TWC. Personally I will wait until the test results are out from the people[ that make the switch.

Andy,
Any word on when we should begin seeing MHD, A&E-HD, ESPN2-HD in Manhattan?

As soon as the average Manhattan TWC bill tops $200. Maybe, no guarentee.

I must say that all this bitching and moaning about the lack of HD is really beginning to get on my nerves. It seems like every day I come here there's another handful of posts complaining to anyone who will listen about some HD channel or event not being available.

It's worth remembering that we are pretty much at the leading edge in HD availability. Yes, there are a couple of providers who have more HD channels, but the vast, vast majority of TV watchers worldwide would be quite envious of our HD selection. There are plenty of regions in the developed world, or even in the US, where they are lucky to receive 1 or 2 HD channels. We get at least half a dozen for free. I don't see what's to complain about.

I was making a point elsewhere and I decided to double check what I thought was fact. Turned out I was correct, TWC's HD lineup in NYC is truly pathetic, more so than I thought.

Digital cable customers get 13 HD channels. Those come with the lowest priced package, but are not extra cost (no, they are NOT "free"). Throwing more money at TWC gets you 4 possible premiums that HAVE HD channels along with 4 in the HDXtra package. Grand total, 21 channels.

Now we see them arguing in court in their suit against D* that they can do them same as D*, deliver 100 HD channels AND deliver them NOW. They use SI as the example, a place they apparently did get rid of ALL analog channels. AND they said without even doing that, their systems had the capacity for 30.

So how come the rest of us don't get the three new channels SI got? And how come the ONLY thing we heard from them is about SDV (which for us is 100% dependant on that Navigator that is SO bad, communities are almost trying to revoke their franchisee agreement over) when they are seeming to say very different things when they are looking to extract money from D*?

And to think I used to stick up for them... and we STILL do not have the replacement channel in the HDXtra tier they swore they would give those subscribers!


Come on River, It isn't that bad. Sat & cable are like cat & dog, black & white, Yank in SD & yanks in HD. There is no contest. SaT is way ahead, I am surprised that SAT doesn't have double the amount of HD channels that is ready to use, as I am typing this. If you take out Voom, the SAT companies do not have that much a lead as it should be. The satellites only broadcast in digital form so you have one less universe (Signal space)of channels that cable has to keep on running. The biggest blame for our lack of HD service can be traced to all cable companies. It is fact they have to run analog and digital until all subscribers change to DTV. (All analog channels are transferred to digital for those of us that upgraded to DTV) That analog to analog boxes take up critical space that will help free up a good portion of bandwith to help the HD cause.

I take a different approach when counting HD channels for the system we share. One gets all the non-premium HDTV channels with just ordering the starter pack. You get 13 channels just by ordering the lowest Package available. Unless you look at it from a HD free household. then you would see the complait we see on this thread a lot, "Why am I paying for channels I don't even use?" Then you have all the premiums which do add to the bill but you pay that if you purchase a premium and the HD channel is just a bonus to all of us that have an HDTV. Unlike some cable companies that charge you extra for a HD box or a fee for to enjoy HD programing with only the local service being available.
As you can see, We aren't getting screwed as bad as you made it seem. We still have a long way to go, but from my research most cable channels, including FIOS, charge extra for every HD channel they send, minus the 6 locals.
The one thing I have noticed is the channels we have on HDextra are all a premium just like ours but they have to give more channels then we have. But they are working to catch up, unfortunately they do catch and pass, but I still have faith that this will be the year that the only Postings that we will see are:. DAM CSR DOESN"T KNOW ANYTHING" "WOW, A&E HD LOOKS GREAT" IT is about time that TWC supports HDMI. The one complait I see happening this year or early next year, "I can't believe TWC doesn't support HDMI 1.3" Just a little look at the future.

I must say that all this bitching and moaning about the lack of HD is really beginning to get on my nerves. Ok, I’ll chill on my gripes, :rolleyes: hate to see you get all un done :p but seriously, this IS the place to talk about these things. :cool:
...the vast, vast majority of TV watchers worldwide would be quite envious of our HD selection.And who cares about what the rest of the world is lacking—especially regarding HD. This isn’t a world symposium solving the big question.. regarding how many sheets of toilet paper are allowed to be used in order to keep a polar bear alive. :D
There are plenty of countries in the developed world, or even in the US... :eek:

:eek:Oops...

O and i forgot one more thing.

by shifting the series a day - Game 1 probably should've been on Thursday... and that game, with Versus exclusive coverage, would (probably) have be on InHD! (Thursday and Friday games have been there so far.... thank to the Golf channel getting the golf-VS-HD channel on Thursday and Friday nights)

and the dagger goes deeper!!!

:D I must say that all this bitching and moaning about the lack of HD is really beginning to get on my nerves. It seems like every day I come here there's another handful of posts complaining to anyone who will listen about some HD channel or event not being available.

It's worth remembering that we are pretty much at the leading edge in HD availability. Yes, there are a couple of providers who have more HD channels, but the vast, vast majority of TV watchers worldwide would be quite envious of our HD selection. There are plenty of regions in the developed world, or even in the US, where they are lucky to receive 1 or 2 HD channels. We get at least half a dozen for free. I don't see what's to complain about.

UnnDnn are you new to the internet? :) :D How long have you been at AVS? The basic functions of the internet is Pron and to bitcch. Bitch to anyone that will listen. If you have time to read this total thread you will see 4+ years of TWC this & TWC that. Don't get me wrong these forms do provide a service. It lets us know in real time who is having the same problem. How many people do you think would know about a reboot of their STB? Or another features we learn which eliminates the need for a service call which would be available "next week between 8am to 6pm". There are people annoyed because in NYC you would expect the best amount of HD channels, not the stay even with other cable nets. like TWC NYC is giving us now. It is true, why should you bitch about channels that aren't even available? I have asked this question for a long time. Just like I am oppose of getting anything but a quality HD channel for the HD channel we lost. ESPN2HD would be one but, how many sports get broadcasted in HD? the orighal ESPN shows all their repeat in SD, GOLF and Bass fishing in HD sounds like must see TV for me.. :rolleyes: .
As for your 2nd paragraph, I am with you. I feel that more HD channels would start to trrickle or flow in when HD becomes more mainstream. I have said this a numerous times. We are only as good as the space available, My main conscern is a loy of people accepting a HD channel because it is HD. (enter my9) I haven't seen a show in HD yet. But even if I watch that channel it is only 10hrs of HD at best., maybe add n hour for a Yankee game. I know they had to take this one, because they have to give us all local channels, but what a waste. MHD sounds like a promising channel, but that is for another days post.

Just remeber the internet is here for some good information and make out lives easier when it comes to anythin you can think of. However in the long run. These threads have brought millions of people together and not everyone shares the same views. Which in turn leads to bitching and moaning. My advice to you is enjoy what they are and take it for what it is worth. At least on TWC people feel that "in the media capital of the world" we are just playing average HD when we should be leading the pack. If you look at it this way, you will be able to understand the gripes a little better.

Ahhh, I'm ready to cancel my TWC here in NYC, but I don't know what other options I have. I have been having internet/tv issues since I got everything set up. There is a horrible delay when changing channels and the internet speeds vary wildly from 6mb+ in the morning to 30-40kb any time after 3pm. This makes live very difficult when I have to use a VPN for work and I'm running 5-10kb speed tests when connected to the VPN. The last two weeks have been spent on the phone with TWC telling me it was a RoadRunner/Earthlink issue and RR/EL telling me it was a TWC issue. Finally TWC fessed up saying there was something on there end that was wrong and they would send out a tech to fix it. I sat around yesterday waiting for the tech, who never showed up. After 2 hours on the phone they said they would have someone here this morning before noon. I called at 10:00 to find out my appt was cancelled by someone in the office. After spending another 1.5 hours I am here. Ready to cancel my account and throw my cable box/modem out the window. Anyone here work for TWC in NYC that can help me out?

Also, Cable-tv is regulated in New York by the Public Service Commission -- you ca file a complaint with them online -- just google "New York State Public Service Commission complaint" (AVS won't let me post a link here yet.)

I have found that Time Warner responds fairly rapidly to complaints of this kind. (I don't make these complaints willy-nilly; I filed one when I was no longer betting CBS regularly and TW told me it was because of 9/11 knocking out the twin towers. This was a year after 9/11! When I got a tech to come out a second time, it turned that the junction box in my building was not properly grounded.) They should probably offer you a month of free service and maybe a month of a free premium channel, which (in my case) I deemed fair.

Just a heads up the Nets Vs Raptors game is in HD, on the road no less. :D

Just a quick update regarding shutdown of analog channels here in Queens....

In addition to losing the ones I mentioned in an earlier post, it seems that many more have been shut down since then.

I can't list them all, but as of now I have only 34 analog channels remaining. It appears that all of the ones that have been turned off since my last post are the scrambled channels (why they couldn't leave the Weather Channel alone is beyond me!!!)

So, it looks like Queens is next on the list of the "Staten Island Project" to remove all analogs from the lineup.

Just a heads up the Nets Vs Raptors game is in HD, on the road no less. :D :cool: Yeah I just noticed too… what’s up with this? I thought that they couldn’t talk and chew at the same time. Yankees are in HD on 708 right now too. Hey, I’m not complaining.

Just a quick update regarding shutdown of analog channels here in Queens....

In addition to losing the ones I mentioned in an earlier post, it seems that many more have been shut down since then.

I can't list them all, but as of now I have only 34 analog channels remaining. It appears that all of the ones that have been turned off since my last post are the scrambled channels (why they couldn't leave the Weather Channel alone is beyond me!!!)

So, it looks like Queens is next on the list of the "Staten Island Project" to remove all analogs from the lineup.
It seems if you follow the path of Verizon's fiber rollout, TWC's analog shutdown is right behind. It's clear that TWC sees FIOS as a major enemy in the near future.

It seems if you follow the path of Verizon's fiber rollout, TWC's analog shutdown is right behind. It's clear that TWC sees FIOS as a major enemy in the near future.

I really hope so - the FIOS HD lineup is incredible, the PQ is excellent, and the STB switches channels so quickly I couldn't believe it was a DVR. (Family has FIOS TV out on Long Island.)

Looks like the "Queens Analog Reclemation Project" seems to have been completed. This is great news. At this rate Manhattan north and Manhattan South should see the same in May & June.
And now SDV looks like it is not even needed anytime soon.

I hope so!

can others in Queens confirm this?
As well as the few in Bkyln?

hey QMAN71, How's those MHD, A&E-HD and FSNY-HD looking?

does FSNY-HD have any HD programing other than hockey?

Can someone clue me in to where the VOD channels are on my QAM tuner? I think it was 83, 84 and 85 - but since I rescanned I can't seem to find them anymore.

hey QMAN71, How's those MHD, A&E-HD and FSNY-HD looking?

does FSNY-HD have any HD programing other than hockey?
I've been a little disappointed with MHD, they show a lot of concerts and live performances (not really my thing), but only seem to show music videos after midnight. To their credit however everything is in HD.
A&E has been a pleasant surprise, they have a few of their shows in HD (Driving Force, King of Cars, and Flip This House, among others) and also show CSI:Miami and now The Sopranos in HD.
I haven't seen any HD other than hockey on FSNY, but I haven't checked it out much to be honest.

I've been a little disappointed with MHD, they show a lot of concerts and live performances (not really my thing), but only seem to show music videos after midnight. To their credit however everything is in HD.
A&E has been a pleasant surprise, they have a few of their shows in HD (Driving Force, King of Cars, and Flip This House, among others) and also show CSI:Miami and now The Sopranos in HD.
I haven't seen any HD other than hockey on FSNY, but I haven't checked it out much to be honest.

FSNY-HD also has FSN national HD games (college football in the fall)

Can someone clue me in to where the VOD channels are on my QAM tuner? I think it was 83, 84 and 85 - but since I rescanned I can't seem to find them anymore.

i was just watching Tabitha Stevens showing it all on Howard Stern On Demand.

on channel 101.101.
getting free programing thru scanning on my qam tuner is the best.

FSNY-HD also has FSN national HD games (college football in the fall)

not sure if FSN NY every carried those college game in Hd last season.
I guess we will see in september.

those of you in S.I. should push TWC to add ESPN-HD, NGC-HD & Versus-HD now that there's space for it where you live.

i was just watching Tabitha Stevens showing it all on Howard Stern On Demand.

on channel 101.101.
getting free programing thru scanning on my qam tuner is the best.Stern is doing a free promo this week. They had or are having free viewings of his show uncensored in Time Square. Some sort of porn booth on wheels parked along side the theatre that’s performing Mary Poppins. I guess they are running it free on the In-demand or On demand (I never get that right) channel too.

just saw "HD PPV" on channel 350 here in the city.
No Data

HMMM!

It appears that the HD PPV channel is currently broadcasting the same thing as in Mojo, it also has it's logo.

It appears that the HD PPV channel is currently broadcasting the same thing as in Mojo, it also has it's logo.

yeah the frequency is the same as INHD or MOJO

yeah the frequency is the same as INHD or MOJO

OMG - maybe they're figuring out a way to get us VersusHD today!!!!

(I actually e-mailed them on Monday asking if it was at all possible to get VersusHD for tonight's and Rangers game (as well as Game 4) - I even detailed the ways I saw it possible... maybe it actually made a difference!)

OMG - maybe they're figuring out a way to get us VersusHD today!!!!

(I actually e-mailed them on Monday asking if it was at all possible to get VersusHD for tonight's and Rangers game (as well as Game 4) - I even detailed the ways I saw it possible... maybe it actually made a difference!)

Brimming with optimism today are we<g>?

FWIW, out of Manhattan North, I also see Mojo on 350.

Somehow it seems real dumb to put a HD channel of any sort on a "300 series" channel. There ARE a lot of numbers in the 701-740 range where a HD channel makes far more sense (as far as channel number).

Still, one very puzzling thing is there seems NO HD PPV at all (yes I read they have had 1-3 events, doesn't count). As it would be much like VOD, it takes no more bandwidth at least on an overall system basis. Even assuming the city mirrors the nation, 30%+ are HD equipped (being the city, I'd expect it to exceed the national average by quite a bit, so 40-45% doesn't seem out of line), it sure seems odd they are still pushing 4 dollar SD movies.

I must say that all this bitching and moaning about the lack of HD is really beginning to get on my nerves. It seems like every day I come here there's another handful of posts complaining to anyone who will listen about some HD channel or event not being available.

It's worth remembering that we are pretty much at the leading edge in HD availability. Yes, there are a couple of providers who have more HD channels, but the vast, vast majority of TV watchers worldwide would be quite envious of our HD selection. There are plenty of regions in the developed world, or even in the US, where they are lucky to receive 1 or 2 HD channels. We get at least half a dozen for free. I don't see what's to complain about.

I'd bet you'd have something very different to say if you saw that the you paid the same rates but got 3 less HD channels because you lived in SI.

Or if you were a sports fan and knew that other cities can see your home teams PLAYOFF games in HD while you can't.

I've been a little disappointed with MHD, they show a lot of concerts and live performances (not really my thing), but only seem to show music videos after midnight. To their credit however everything is in HD.
A&E has been a pleasant surprise, they have a few of their shows in HD (Driving Force, King of Cars, and Flip This House, among others) and also show CSI:Miami and now The Sopranos in HD.
I haven't seen any HD other than hockey on FSNY, but I haven't checked it out much to be honest.

Damn, A&E has been at the top of my list along with NG HD since last spring! Good to hear it "surprises" you pleasantly.

FWIW, I'm watching a LOT more live music since I got HD (all in HD, DD 5.1). Soundstage & Austin City on PBS, stuff on InHD and HDNet as well. Would still like to have some more choices with MHD. I hear TWC has that channel scheduled for Manhattan by the beginning of 2009 (or whenever FIOS is franchised and fully deployed there).

i was just watching Tabitha Stevens showing it all on Howard Stern On Demand.

on channel 101.101.
getting free programing thru scanning on my qam tuner is the best.

Hmmm, I read somewhere that they were "showing" his show for free this week, but on his website only.

One thing has me curious... AFAICT, his show you pay 14 bucks/month for is SD. BUT, there is a very heavily censored (laughable as it seems "more censored" than his old E show) "clip" show in HD 16:9 on InHD (or HDNet, can't remember).

FWIW, out of Manhattan North, I also see Mojo on 350.

Somehow it seems real dumb to put a HD channel of any sort on a "300 series" channel. There ARE a lot of numbers in the 701-740 range where a HD channel makes far more sense (as far as channel number).

Still, one very puzzling thing is there seems NO HD PPV at all (yes I read they have had 1-3 events, doesn't count). As it would be much like VOD, it takes no more bandwidth at least on an overall system basis. Even assuming the city mirrors the nation, 30%+ are HD equipped (being the city, I'd expect it to exceed the national average by quite a bit, so 40-45% doesn't seem out of line), it sure seems odd they are still pushing 4 dollar SD movies.
I wonder if they're not prepping for the HD Howard Stern On Demand?

The SD Stern is in the 300s.....and it's owned by the INHD/Mojo people......

HD boxing is coming back to HD PPV, probably may 5 for De La Hoya

I'd bet you'd have something very different to say if you saw that the you paid the same rates but got 3 less HD channels because you lived in SI.

Or if you were a sports fan and knew that other cities can see your home teams PLAYOFF games in HD while you can't.
Not really. It's just TV.

Hmmm, I read somewhere that they were "showing" his show for free this week, but on his website only.

One thing has me curious... AFAICT, his show you pay 14 bucks/month for is SD. BUT, there is a very heavily censored (laughable as it seems "more censored" than his old E show) "clip" show in HD 16:9 on InHD (or HDNet, can't remember). :rolleyes: I must be on your ignore list...

Stern’s Sirius radio show has always been recorded in HD available on the TWC "On Demand" channel in SD. I don’t know if any markets get to order the HD version.

INHD / Mojo (whatever their name is) owns his show under their InDemand name.

The HD Stern show that’s been running on INHD/Mojo (for over a year or so) is the "promo" or "infomercial" for this Stern In Demand show (which, as I said, we get in SD on TWC OnDemand).

Here is a link and quote..
http://www.howard.tv/
In honor of the upcoming free online preview of Howard TV On Demand -- Howard Stern’s uncensored television channel -- a mobile peep show booth will be parked at 35 Union Square West at 17th Street on Wednesday, April 25th from 11AM – 4PM, displaying outrageous Howard TV moments…not suitable for the faint of heart. The mobile peep show booth will also tour around Manhattan on Thursday, April 26th from 11AM to 11PM. …..

The land of the free just got free-er with the Howard TV Free Online Preview. Howard Stern’s outrageous television channel, Howard TV On Demand, goes online for all to see for the first time beginning April 25th through the 29th. Stern fans can log on to www.howardstern.com/free to get free full access to the very best of Howard TV.
Fans, 18 years or older, will get exclusive access to this never before seen special event action-packed with clips from Howard Stern’s Sirius Satellite radio show, uncut classic Stern shows and programming produced exclusively for the Howard TV service.

DAMNIT

That is all........

is 350 unlocked for anyone without the HDxtra pack?

maybe they did this for the NBATV freeview (for the playoff games)

although ESPN-HD is still part of the package.... so that throws my theory out the window...

Anyone else getting nothing on FOX HD tonight?

Anyone else getting nothing on FOX HD tonight?

works just fine for me.

DAMNIT

That is all........

So the Rangers were on VS 122 and the same basketball game is on HDPPV 350 and INHD MOJO 721. :rolleyes: Too bad a deal couldn’t have been worked out.


I’m glad the Yankees were rained out—not enough tuners to cover the games that are on.

So the Rangers were on VS 122 and the same basketball game is on HDPPV 350 and INHD MOJO 721. :rolleyes: Too bad a deal couldn’t have been worked out.


I’m glad the Yankees were rained out—not enough tuners to cover the games that are on.


No deal needed to be worked out.

VersusHD is already available to TWC.

Anyone else getting nothing on FOX HD tonight?
Seems fine to me here in Queens too but I haven’t been watching it, just checked it for a second.

No deal needed to be worked out.

VersusHD is already available to TWC. So they could have given it to us on 350 but for whatever reason they didn’t?

So they could have given it to us on 350 but for whatever reason they didn’t?


I dunno....
350 suddenly showed up with INHD content....

Versus-GolfHD is available to all systems FOR FREE that have both the Golf channel and Versus.

We have both.......

All TWC has to do was place the channel on our systems

That is a real bummer…and is this true that the MSG broadcast on Friday night will not be in HD too?

I haven’t been following this ridiculous lack of HD hockey coverage fiasco. It sure does suck for the local fans. I have friends who are big Ranger fans in LI, Cablevision land, and I think they had to order some sports package tonight in order to get VS, in SD.

That is a real bummer…and is this true that the MSG broadcast on Friday night will not be in HD too?

I haven’t been following this ridiculous lack of HD hockey coverage fiasco. It sure does suck for the local fans. I have friends who are big Ranger fans in LI, Cablevision land, and I think they had to order some sports package tonight in order to get VS, in SD.


MSG decided they would not show any games in Buffalo in HD (They have Games 2, 5 and 7) (VersusHD shows these games everywhere else...)

MSG does not get to broadcast any more home games.

Game 3 and 6 is on NBCHD (the only ones we get), and Game 4 is another Versus Exclusive (a huge kick in the pants)

And cablevision doesn't have VersusHD either...

I'm in Woodside, Queens, and I can confirm that all previously scrambled analog channels are gone and there is nothing but snow on all of them. The only analog channels broadcasting a signal are the basic tier channels.

:rolleyes: I must be on your ignore list...

Stern’s Sirius radio show has always been recorded in HD available on the TWC "On Demand" channel in SD. I don’t know if any markets get to order the HD version.

INHD / Mojo (whatever their name is) owns his show under their InDemand name.

The HD Stern show that’s been running on INHD/Mojo (for over a year or so) is the "promo" or "infomercial" for this Stern In Demand show (which, as I said, we get in SD on TWC OnDemand).

Here is a link and quote..
http://www.howard.tv/

Ignore list? Not in any way my friend!

If I repeated something you already said, it was inadvertant. I honestly haven't seen much of any "chat" about his show here. I was trying to point to the irony of the "promo" being 16:9 HD while you PAY for SD.

.. I was trying to point to the irony of the "promo" being 16:9 HD while you PAY for SD. ;)

I'm in Woodside, Queens, and I can confirm that all previously scrambled analog channels are gone and there is nothing but snow on all of them. The only analog channels broadcasting a signal are the basic tier channels.

I'm still not sure how we can actually tell that any particular channel number is coming to us in analog as opposed to digital form.

Are you saying that with the raw cable plugged into the TV (not through a box) if a scrambled channel isn't viewable but is not showing snow that it's digital, and if it has snow, it's analog? Is this the test?

Someone once mentioned telling from the 8300's service menu... but I've gone through all it's pages more than once and see nothing that I can logically grab onto that may show if it's digital or analog. Besides, is there even such an animal as a "analog 8300?" Seems to me that an 8300 is only going to "see" digital channels anyway.

I'm still not sure how we can actually tell that any particular channel number is coming to us in analog as opposed to digital form.

Are you saying that with the raw cable plugged into the TV (not through a box) if a scrambled channel isn't viewable but is not showing snow that it's digital, and if it has snow, it's analog? Is this the test?

Someone once mentioned telling from the 8300's service menu... but I've gone through all it's pages more than once and see nothing that I can logically grab onto that may show if it's digital or analog. Besides, is there even such an animal as a "analog 8300?" Seems to me that an 8300 is only going to "see" digital channels anyway.

My TV scans both analog and digital off the raw cable - if when I hit display it says NTSC it is analog, if it states 480i it is digital. I have a Sony XBR960 by the way - your TV will vary I'm sure.

My 2nd TV is analog-only, so it's much easier (and quicker) to tell how many channels it scans since obviously the digitals won't tune in.

How do I get access to channels 101.101? I have a samung LN-S2651D and a sa3250HD. Do I need an hdtv antenna for this? Thanks.

How do I get access to channels 101.101? I have a samung LN-S2651D and a sa3250HD. Do I need an hdtv antenna for this? Thanks.

no antenna. your HD set needs to have a qam tuner built in.
simply run the cable wire to the input labeled "cable", and then go to your menu and scan for digital channels.

at that time someone in my building or maybe my block was watching Howard TV OnDemand so it was coming in on channel 101.101. the next time I do a scan I might not pick it up cause that person might not have been watching it.
and if they were the channel # might very well be different.

sorry but it's a lot of work to get free on demand

I'm still not sure how we can actually tell that any particular channel number is coming to us in analog as opposed to digital form.

Are you saying that with the raw cable plugged into the TV (not through a box) if a scrambled channel isn't viewable but is not showing snow that it's digital, and if it has snow, it's analog? Is this the test?

Someone once mentioned telling from the 8300's service menu... but I've gone through all it's pages more than once and see nothing that I can logically grab onto that may show if it's digital or analog. Besides, is there even such an animal as a "analog 8300?" Seems to me that an 8300 is only going to "see" digital channels anyway.

You're close. Here's the test: if you plug the raw cable into the TV (bypassing the cable box), the small handful of channels on the basic tier will display (CBS, Public Access, QVC, etc.), and the standard tier channels will not (MTV, USA, etc.). Previously, those channels showed up on my TV as scrambled. Now, in the slots where those channels used to be scrambled, now there is just snow with no picture or audio at all. So, for example, channels 2-5 come in, 6 is just snow, 7-13 come in, 14-20 are just snow, 21-22 come in, etc.

The fact that there is just snow rather than a scrambled picture is the key to knowing that the analog channels have been removed. If there were still scrambled channels coming through the raw cable, that would mean that TWC is still transmitting standard service to customers with analog boxes. The removal of those scrambled channels resulting in snow means that everybody in the area with a higher level of service than the bare-bones basic tier has been switched over to a digital box and the standard-tier channels are no longer available via analog. And that means bandwidth has just opened up in that area, big time.

well congrats to all in S.I. and now Queens. you have the bandwidth for more than 100 HD channels!

waiting for someone in BK to chime in.

I'm still not sure how we can actually tell that any particular channel number is coming to us in analog as opposed to digital form.

Are you saying that with the raw cable plugged into the TV (not through a box) if a scrambled channel isn't viewable but is not showing snow that it's digital, and if it has snow, it's analog? Is this the test?

Someone once mentioned telling from the 8300's service menu... but I've gone through all it's pages more than once and see nothing that I can logically grab onto that may show if it's digital or analog. Besides, is there even such an animal as a "analog 8300?" Seems to me that an 8300 is only going to "see" digital channels anyway.
We're both using PASSPORT ECHO 2.6.002.

SYSTEM SUMMARY, TUNING and RF NETWORK menus either update the
QAM statistics....or displays "ANALOG" status.

As of tonight, they all display ANALOG status for ITV and one of the two PBS channels.

PS: A-KPBS is only channel my SA8300HD can tune both SD and Analog versions.
ITV (CH16) is only other "normal" Analog channel tunable by my SA8300HD....
Although all of our Analog channels are still accessible as 11xx-series "channels".

TWC-SD uses CH998 for a quick DIAGNOSTIC summary.
But tuning to this channel after watching an Analog channel, I still see
the QAM SNR display being (erroneously) updated....go figure....

The quickest test is to surf through the channels: Analog channels come in immediately,
whereas digital channels slowly do a blink-blink-blink before they lock in....

BTW: Since ALL video programs go through the SA8300HD's Trick Play Buffer,
even the Analog channels are (re-)digitized before you can view them....

If you subscribe to both BASIC and EXTENDED Analog channels, connecting coax
directly to an NTSC tuner (even a VCR) will quickly find ALL the Analog channels.

However, if someone doesn't subscribe to EXTENDED, the tier filters will kill 'em.

In east harlem verizon has been doing some extensive work under 1st ave, on each corner they have a truck set up with a tent and men going under the street,
hmmmmm fiber???

In east harlem verizon has been doing some extensive work under 1st ave, on each corner they have a truck set up with a tent and men going under the street,
hmmmmm fiber???

what st. on east harlem? i think it maybe have to do with the 2nd ave. subway construction?

This was posted by RemyM in the local Cablevision thread...

From Newsday
Neil Best
SPORTS WATCH

April 27, 2007

Just wondering: Hockey fans want their HD

SportsWatch headquarters is HDTV-free, but many readers insist that once you get used to it, you can't live without it, and they become very unhappy when they must.

Take the Rangers-Sabres series. Numerous readers e-mailed in a panic this week, incensed that only two of seven potential games would be available in HD - those on NBC.

Versus produces all games in HD but most cable systems, including Cablevision and Time Warner, do not carry its HD channel.

That's annoying, but what really had fans worked up was early word that the three games set for MSG, all in Buffalo, would not be produced in HD because of costs and logistical issues.

Well, good news: Yesterday MSG changed course and will have Games 2, 5 and 7 in HD. Whew.
(Devils home games this round are in HD on FSNY.)

Copyright 2007 Newsday Inc.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hocke...,2124798.column

Thanks.
These look like pretty much all the channels i watch.
the HD channels are really the only important ones to me.
Now I can't remember why I have the ValuePack.
I vaguely remember that i might've needed to get the DVR.
Is DTValuePack required to get the DVR?
DTValue is the only the only way to access full HD, meaning the HDextra and use of the DVR. Local HD is included in the starter. That DVR is worth the extra money alone. It sucks that they can't give you DVR and starter pack, but it is just the bully taking from the little guys again. Plus the way they hit us twice by getting the HDDVR, this I think is illegal somewhere. Please people let's see if there is something in the law that can reduce this double charge. They charge us for each box we use then they tag on another box cost to have the DVR which they sneak into our bill by giving you the HDextra & DVR combo price. When I look at what I watch I have reduced my viewing to All free on-demand channel, all HD chanels, and USA, FX, Spike & TBS. These are the channels I watch frequently. So I can understand wanting less choices because I am paying for over 100 channels I never use. I think you are screwed, there is no way to elimnate choices but I can confirm it is only a $10 dollar difference.

well congrats to all in S.I. and now Queens. you have the bandwidth for more than 100 HD channels!

waiting for someone in BK to chime in.
me confused Andy, Where did saomeone say that Queens had 100 HD channels? You are playing with my emotions with that coment. Me don't like emotional roller coaster rides!

me confused Andy, Where did saomeone say that Queens had 100 HD channels? You are playing with my emotions with that coment. Me don't like emotional roller coaster rides!

He said they now have enough bandwidth for 100 channels

me confused Andy, Where did saomeone say that Queens had 100 HD channels? You are playing with my emotions with that coment. Me don't like emotional roller coaster rides!

c'mon man, how are you gonna quote me and not read the quote!

c'mon man, how are you gonna quote me and not read the quote!
:D :D :D We don't need to read no stinkin quotes...
...just our own :)

c'mon man, how are you gonna quote me and not read the quote!
there wasn't a quote. The post only had what you said. Sorry if I touched a nerve.

Let me re write I meant room for 100, who said queens had room for 100 hd channels?

The fact that there is just snow rather than a scrambled picture is the key to knowing that the analog channels have been removed. If there were still scrambled channels coming through the raw cable, that would mean that TWC is still transmitting standard service to customers with analog boxes. The removal of those scrambled channels resulting in snow means that everybody in the area with a higher level of service than the bare-bones basic tier has been switched over to a digital box and the standard-tier channels are no longer available via analog. And that means bandwidth has just opened up in that area, big time.
:cool:

there wasn't a quote. The post only had what you said. Sorry if I touched a nerve.

Let me re write I meant room for 100, who said queens had room for 100 hd channels?

it's all good, just joking.

two people in queens recently confirmed that their standard analog (scrambled) channels have been cut off.

So I just assume that queens is free of bandwidth problems.

Totally off topic...way way OT.... but speaking of Queens :cool: ..from Crain's today...
Spider-Man 3 making a Queens debut

By: Miriam Kreinin Souccar
Published: April 27, 2007 - 12:50 pm

The first ever major movie premiere in Queens takes place Friday when Spider-Man 3 is unveiled at Kaufman Astoria Studios.

More than 3,000 people are expected to attend the event, which is being held in the borough because it's Peter Parker's, a.k.a Spider-Man's, hometown. The premiere kicks off a city-wide promotional week in New York organized by NYC & Co. and Columbia Pictures.

Events will include an exhibition of live spiders at the American Museum of Natural History; Spider-Man training workout classes at Crunch gyms and Spider-Man sightseeing tours on Gray Line buses.

With online tickets selling at a fast clip, the highly anticipated Spider-Man 3is expected to do well at the box office and top the first two Spider-Man flicks, which together grossed about $1.6 billion worldwide. Spider-Man 2 was the third-highest grossing film of 2004 and grossed about $784 million at the box office.

But the latest Spidey adventure may be debuting against some stiff competition. Seven major films, including thrillers Next and The Invisible are opening Friday.
Well I'm sure one day this will look great on TW in HD :D (just trying to get back on topic) :p

it's all good, just joking.

two people in queens recently confirmed that their standard analog (scrambled) channels have been cut off.

So I just assume that queens is free of bandwidth problems.
It is ok Andy as long as we are still cool!
That would be nice but what good is all this room with no channels. Positive thinking: I truly think the cable companies will stop analog transmition before the deadline(even though the deadline is a basis for OTA and TV stations them selves) Cable companies only need to convince everyone to get DTV before all analog service shuts down. I really hope this is a sign that the analog service is shut down, but it might be shut down for only people that already watch DTV. If they can do switched video why would it not be possible that they shut down the analog feed for us with DTV. I know my SD content has been getting better lately which could be because there is less information travelling on the main cabe wires.

I think we are in for a revsion of HDTV. Within the next four months I feel that TWC is ready to work with the minority of their subscribers. Us HDTV people are growing rapidly and will be a majority very soon, so they won't neglect us for much longer. I think it is safe to say 4-5 channels buy september. NBC already has 2 stations broadcasting HD so ChillerHD will be one of them. Discovery has a relationship with TWC for long time so they will be broadcasting 1 or 2 of there channels and finally we have Mickey, they already signed an aggreement so those 4 stations will be coming soon. Mark it down everyone, Nutty said Sept 1st for TWC to get close to 30 channels in HD glory.

Totally off topic...way way OT.... but speaking of Queens :cool: ..from Crain's today...
Well I'm sure one day this will look great on TW in HD :D (just trying to get back on topic) :p
You aren't getting off that easy Larry, I will stay off topic for one more post, is it still the premiere, There are many late night premieres all over the city. but then again they didn't say what time on friday. That is nice that Queens gets a event like that. You know Tobey and Avi something will be there also. That show is probably sold out already. But it is still good to star watch if some of the other characters show up.

I thought Transformers was the movie to beat but spidey, previews only, looks like it will have a lot of action and a good story. As long as they use the bad guys the right way(see batman and robin and Batman returns). Whcih will be the highest gorossing movie: Spidey, transmformers, or Pirates? Back on topic, I can't wait to they come on-demand and we have the on-demand HD channel. See how I tied this into the topic on hand.

I recently switched from components to DVI to hook up my 8300 to my 4 yr old plasma tv. Now when I turn off both my tv and cable box (via the 'system off' button) and turn them both back on I do not get a picture on my tv - only sound.
I need to unplug and reinsert the HDMI cable to get the picture to reappear.

If i turn just one of them off (tv or cable box) and turn it back on. it works fine. Its only when I do both.

Anyone else experience this?
Any solution to this?

P.S. I am using a cable with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other end since my tv only has DVI.

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I recently switched from components to DVI to hook up my 8300 to my 4 yr old plasma tv. Now when I turn off both my tv and cable box (via the 'system off' button) and turn them both back on I do not get a picture on my tv - only sound.
I need to unplug and reinsert the HDMI cable to get the picture to reappear.

If i turn just one of them off (tv or cable box) and turn it back on. it works fine. Its only when I do both.

Anyone else experience this?
Any solution to this?

P.S. I am using a cable with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other end since my tv only has DVI.
the cable box needs to turn on first. Are you using the outlet from the back of the box. I suggest plugging the TV into the power bar. From mutiple testing I have done, I needed the cable box on first or you will get a blank screen or the HDCP warning. You have DVI with the 8300, I thought they only come in HDMI to HDMI. Either way it is a digital connection so the result would be the same. Try that of focus on which starts first then you will be able to adjust properly.

Well, good news: Yesterday MSG changed course and will have Games 2, 5 and 7 in HD. Whew.
(Devils home games this round are in HD on FSNY.)

Copyright 2007 Newsday Inc.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hocke...,2124798.column[/QUOTE]
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Thanks Larry...good job! :)

Altho also a partial moot point regarding the Devils, since we don't get FSNY HD.

I recently switched from components to DVI to hook up my 8300 to my 4 yr old plasma tv. Now when I turn off both my tv and cable box (via the 'system off' button) and turn them both back on I do not get a picture on my tv - only sound.
I need to unplug and reinsert the HDMI cable to get the picture to reappear.

If i turn just one of them off (tv or cable box) and turn it back on. it works fine. Its only when I do both.

Anyone else experience this?
Any solution to this?

P.S. I am using a cable with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other end since my tv only has DVI.

I leave my cable box on all the time, and only power the TV on and off.

Is anyone having a problem with the audio on 709 (Yankees game). I had issues the other day as well. The audio plays fine - then crackles - which is very annoying when played through separate speakers. It only happens on 709.

Is anyone having a problem with the audio on 709 (Yankees game). I had issues the other day as well. The audio plays fine - then crackles - which is very annoying when played through separate speakers. It only happens on 709.

Same here as well.

Is anyone having a problem with the audio on 709 (Yankees game). I had issues the other day as well. The audio plays fine - then crackles - which is very annoying when played through separate speakers. It only happens on 709.
Sounds fine in Queens :)
If you have a few moments and are not recording anything, it can't hurt to try a hard reboot. I had to do that yesterday for various reasons. The main one was because the 8300 was telling me, for a few days, that I didn't have enough disc space even though I know I had plenty. For some reason it didn't "recognize" the fact that I deleted a lot of stuff. The reboot took care of the problems.

But then again, seeing Cap’s having the same problem, maybe it’s a Manhattan issue.

I'm having the same audio problems on 709 here in SI, and had them the other night as well.

I've been having the same problems in Manhattan

Thanks....while it is very annoying, I'm glad it is TWC's problem and not just mine.

Thanks....while it is very annoying, I'm glad it is TWC's problem and not just mine.

And here in Jackson Heights QUEENS, I was getting that disturbingly loud POP sound every so often during the Yankee game....heard it Thur nite, too. I was REAL concerned it might be damaging my surround sound equipment.

Except it doesn't live for US during Rangers or Devils games. As i type this up, i'm seeing VERSUS HD on ch 721 ("LONDON LIVE" is listed in the cable program guide for this time frame) and they have on the ANAHEIM-VANCOUVER game instead. :confused:

YES can only produce one HD game at a time.

Last night they only produced the Yankee game... so it was HD on My9.
Today they are producing both the Yankees on YES and the Nets on My9.... so only the Yankees can be in HD.Hey Berk32....You posted this ^^^ a couple of weeks ago. Since then, there have been two instances-- to my pleasant surprise-- where both games-- the game on My9 and the one on YES were in HD. I was curious if you, or anyone else, know if this is a temporary fix? :)

Except it doesn't live for US during Rangers or Devils games. As i type this up, i'm seeing VERSUS HD on ch 721 ("LONDON LIVE" is listed in the cable program guide for this time frame) and they have on the ANAHEIM-VANCOUVER game instead. :confused:


Thursday and Fridays only (if NBATV doesn't have a game)
(INHD doesn't update their own guide online until the last minute for some reason)

Hey Berk32....You posted this ^^^ a couple of weeks ago. Since then, there have been two instances-- to my pleasant surprise-- where both games-- the game on My9 and the one on YES were in HD. I was curious if you, or anyone else, know if this is a temporary fix? :)


It used to be the case....

I have no clue what happened.... but I'm not complaining.

It used to be the case....

I have no clue what happened.... but I'm not complaining.I bet :p if you didn’t put it in writing here, or as I did in the local Cablevision thread, one of the games each night would’ve been in SD. ;)

the cable box needs to turn on first. Are you using the outlet from the back of the box. I suggest plugging the TV into the power bar. From mutiple testing I have done, I needed the cable box on first or you will get a blank screen or the HDCP warning. You have DVI with the 8300, I thought they only come in HDMI to HDMI. Either way it is a digital connection so the result would be the same. Try that of focus on which starts first then you will be able to adjust properly.

thanks. that worked.
Is there any way to set the remote so that the system on will turn on the cable box before the tv? Its a pain to press 4 buttons to watch tv.
How much electricity do you waste by leaving the cable box on all the time?


OK, now I'm having another problem. sometimes my cable box is flipping out on me and it flickers - both sound and picture fickers on and off. To fix it, I need to unplug the cable box and plug it back in. anyone else experience this? I didn't have this problem with component cables, only the HDMI cable has this problem.

How much electricity do you waste by leaving the cable box on all the time?
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Actually, i was wondering the same thing, too! And also wondering why it's been so QUIET in here...NO POSTS since 2PM on Saturday?? :eek:

Just an update on Channel 350.

Can confirm that is for the HD broadcast of the big De La Hoya/ Mayweather fight next Saturday night

Is anyone having a problem with the audio on 709 (Yankees game). I had issues the other day as well. The audio plays fine - then crackles - which is very annoying when played through separate speakers. It only happens on 709.

Ah, good to hear that you... heard! Earlier in the week there was some ABC show (Lost I think) that this happened to... more than once. One was VERY loud so I immediately sat up as it sounded like my whole audio system was about to seriously melt down... then I heard the same crackle on a Yankees game (funny aside, I was pissed they only gave us My9 HD, but the last 2 games I checked in on where on 709 AND in HD).

Except it doesn't live for US during Rangers or Devils games. As i type this up, i'm seeing VERSUS HD on ch 721 ("LONDON LIVE" is listed in the cable program guide for this time frame) and they have on the ANAHEIM-VANCOUVER game instead. :confused:

I think they have an exclusive on one of the remaining Rangers games... wanna bet they do NOT put it on 721 or anywhere where actual home town fans can see it in HD?

I think they have an exclusive on one of the remaining Rangers games... wanna bet they do NOT put it on 721 or anywhere where actual home town fans can see it in HD?

I wouldn't want to take that bet, Riv Guy....i'm SURE you're right! :(

I think they have an exclusive on one of the remaining Rangers games... wanna bet they do NOT put it on 721 or anywhere where actual home town fans can see it in HD?

Tuesday night's Game 4 is exclusive Versus.

It will be on VsGolf-HD, which we don't get (obviously)

InHD ONLY gets games on Thursday and Fridays (when VsGolf-HD is showing golf). (note NBATV gets first dibs on the channel... Last Thursday's game was shown on INHD on tape delay at midnight (it wasn't in the guide))

For whatever reason - InHD's program guide isn't updated online until the day off (so the tv program guide has no chance to be updated.....)

thanks. that worked.
Is there any way to set the remote so that the system on will turn on the cable box before the tv? Its a pain to press 4 buttons to watch tv.
How much electricity do you waste by leaving the cable box on all the time?
you can do that, the cable box is just like a VCR or DVD player when it isn't in use and left on. It will take up some energy but it won't be an ammount you will notice in your bill. The only way to make sure is use your cable TV remote or keep the cable box on.

I am glad that I could help you.

On a side note, what a differrance a year makes. My 9 looked horible for yankee games, this year my9 still looks terible, My9HD OMG how beautiful. Sharp PQ with the grass so green and you could almost count each grass hair from pitchers mound to home plate. My9 SD basketball games, why keep this station working? MyHD same game looked clear the court shine was beautifull and this game was in SD. Why do the HD feeds always look so much better? Who cares as long as it continues this way.

Tuesday night's Game 4 is exclusive Versus.

Frak me, I thought this was a NBC game???

Now I'm majorly pissed, a frakking home game and we get shut the frak our of the HD broadcast. AND I just found out VS has the America's Cup this summer. Well, I couldn't see that they were going to employ Gary Jobson and that WILL take a lot away from it.

My9HD OMG how beautiful. Sharp PQ with the grass so green and you could almost count each grass hair from pitchers mound to home plate.

That's probably because it's a YES production. While they work hard to make sure the My9 logo is all over it, I did catch a few times they had YES' graphic badging!

That's probably because it's a YES production. While they work hard to make sure the My9 logo is all over it, I did catch a few times they had YES' graphic badging!

It is a YES production, 100%.....

Frak me, I thought this was a NBC game???

Now I'm majorly pissed, a frakking home game and we get shut the frak our of the HD broadcast. AND I just found out VS has the America's Cup this summer. Well, I couldn't see that they were going to employ Gary Jobson and that WILL take a lot away from it.


NBC? on a weeknight?
You think they'd show Hockey during May Prime Time sweeps???

The only reason they'll show the Finals (games 3-7) is because they come out in June.

anyone having a problem with TNT's NBA broadcasts? Half the time you have to flip back and forth to the channel to force it into HD mode, otherwise it shows a zoomed full-screen...?

Also the commercials are freezing mid-way thru, and again, you have to flip channels or power off/on to get it to work properly.

And I am getting unexpected speaker blowing POPS on SNY during the Mets games too.

what st. on east harlem? i think it maybe have to do with the 2nd ave. subway construction?
from 116th north
you might be right, but I thought the 2nd ave line is going to veer off towards lexington this far norht

That's probably because it's a YES production. While they work hard to make sure the My9 logo is all over it, I did catch a few times they had YES' graphic badging!
I know it is a yes production it just was a happy return to HD quality, considering the PQ problems that happened earlier on MY9.HD.

My9HD OMG how beautiful. Sharp PQ with the grass so green and you could almost count each grass hair from pitchers mound to home plate.


I can sure agree with you there. I was amazed when I put it on. In my opinion, it looked better than YES HD's channel.

Did TNT HD move to the HDXtra tier recently? We have Digital Starter, and a couple of days ago TNT HD went subscription on us. :( I don't really care too much, but if I was an NBA fan I'd be pretty POed...

anyone having a problem with TNT's NBA broadcasts? Half the time you have to flip back and forth to the channel to force it into HD mode, otherwise it shows a zoomed full-screen...?

Also the commercials are freezing mid-way thru, and again, you have to flip channels or power off/on to get it to work properly.

And I am getting unexpected speaker blowing POPS on SNY during the Mets games too.

I've noticed that also, although I don't turn off the power it eventually corrects itself a few seconds after the commercial is over, it does suck though.

I've noticed that also, although I don't turn off the power it eventually corrects itself a few seconds after the commercial is over, it does suck though.


Same here, and what's funny is that it seems to freeze on the same commericls. It unfreezes when another commercial comes on or when it switches back to the game. Why would it only happen on tnt hd and at the same commercials?

Did TNT HD move to the HDXtra tier recently? We have Digital Starter, and a couple of days ago TNT HD went subscription on us. :( I don't really care too much, but if I was an NBA fan I'd be pretty POed...

Doubt it and youse guys should NOT be complaining, you got 3 brand new HD channels in SI (hey, no offense intended I'm happy for ya!) that we won't see for at least another year or three (given that TWC doesn't give 2 craps about the rest of the city until FIOS becomes vaguely real).

BTW, they lied through their teeth when they said (in writing no less) when they said they WOULD replace InHD2 on that pay tier. Never happened. I wanted to cancel it totally until they lived up to their promise, but I find HDNet too "good" to give it up.

Did TNT HD move to the HDXtra tier recently? We have Digital Starter, and a couple of days ago TNT HD went subscription on us. :( I don't really care too much, but if I was an NBA fan I'd be pretty POed...

TNT-HD is not in the HDXtra tier - however, TNT (and I assume TNT-HD) is not part of the DTV Starter package. I think it's part of the next tier that used to be called Standard (now DTValue). That may be why you're not receiving it.

Just curious - do you get Discovery HD?

Same here, and what's funny is that it seems to freeze on the same commericls. It unfreezes when another commercial comes on or when it switches back to the game. Why would it only happen on tnt hd and at the same commercials?
I think it goes back to the issue that people were talking about recently about TWC inserting local commercials at 480i on HD channels. So your box detects the swap to 480i, goes into the setting that you have for 480i picture (zoomed) and then when it goes back to 1080i, it eventually realizes it and goes back to your HD picture settings.

If you change your setting to show 480i "normal" (with the pillar-bars on the left and right) I think everything will be fine for you....

Scott

HD PPV on Channel 350 is slated to broadcast the "Delahoya vs. Mayweather" fight on May 5th. Does this now mean that TWCNYC will only use this spare bandwidth to sell $50 PPV fights instead of adding another HD channel like ESPN2-HD? If things weren't so pathetic this would simply be just another rhetorical question.

I think it goes back to the issue that people were talking about recently about TWC inserting local commercials at 480i on HD channels. So your box detects the swap to 480i, goes into the setting that you have for 480i picture (zoomed) and then when it goes back to 1080i, it eventually realizes it and goes back to your HD picture settings.

If you change your setting to show 480i "normal" (with the pillar-bars on the left and right) I think everything will be fine for you....

Scott

wow, thanks, what a pain. Now I alsounderstand why when I fast forward or reverse the picture sometimes goes blank when it hits the commercials.

Same here, and what's funny is that it seems to freeze on the same commericls. It unfreezes when another commercial comes on or when it switches back to the game. Why would it only happen on tnt hd and at the same commercials?

I'm not so sure about that. For ex, last nite i was watching two shows, using the PIP function. And let me tell ya, the pic in BOTH windows did the freeze/sputter/audio drop thing at the same time. I don't think it matters whether the programming is in commercial or not. :(

I was only having the picture freezing issue with TNT initially...

Then Saturday night it was happening on almost every HD channel - as soon as I tuned to it...

Rebooting the box seemed to do the trick at first, but after a day it started happening on TNT again during commercials randomly.

Any news on the Rangers game in HD tonight?

It's always that Duane Wade commercial. 9/10 times it's fine until that one screws it up. And only during the game...right?

All of my other channels switch resolutions seamlessly...well so far

Any news on the Rangers game in HD tonight?

no......... :mad:

The channel block of 709, 710 and 711 were completely frozen for me ... audio would work, but each channel would only show a freeze-frame and never correct itself. Had to reboot my box to get them working again. They're ok now but who knows for how long.

any1 here watching nets vs raptors on tnt hd and my 9 hd?

why is tnt hd showing pix lighter than my 9 hd even though they are coming from the same camera? i prefer tnt hd even though my 9 hd are more "darker" and more vivid color?

1. y is 2 hd channel producing color saturation even though both are using the same cam?
2. if u were watching the game in real live...which of these channel would resemble as if u were having a front row seat?

any1 here watching nets vs raptors on tnt hd and my 9 hd?

why is tnt hd showing pix lighter than my 9 hd even though they are coming from the same camera? i prefer tnt hd even though my 9 hd are more "darker" and more vivid color?

1. y is 2 hd channel producing color saturation even though both are using the same cam?
2. if u were watching the game in real live...which of these channel would resemble as if u were having a front row seat?

Its not the same cameras.

Each network has its own production

The channel block of 709, 710 and 711 were completely frozen for me ... audio would work, but each channel would only show a freeze-frame and never correct itself. Had to reboot my box to get them working again. They're ok now but who knows for how long.

Same thing happened to me Saturday night.

TNT-HD is not in the HDXtra tier - however, TNT (and I assume TNT-HD) is not part of the DTV Starter package. I think it's part of the next tier that used to be called Standard (now DTValue). That may be why you're not receiving it.

Just curious - do you get Discovery HD?
TNT SD is most definitely part of Digital Starter - Digital Starter mirrors Analog Preferred service, which TNT was a part of.

We do get Discovery HD as part of Digital Starter, yes. We also get UHD, SNY-HD and MSG-HD. We don't get FSNY-HD though.

I should mention that TNT-HD is back on. :)

yeess, series tied 2-2.
Next game on Friday should be in HD on MSG.

yeess, series tied 2-2.
Next game on Friday should be in HD on MSG.

change "should" to "will"

:)

TNT SD is most definitely part of Digital Starter - Digital Starter mirrors Analog Preferred service, which TNT was a part of.

We do get Discovery HD as part of Digital Starter, yes. We also get UHD, SNY-HD and MSG-HD. We don't get FSNY-HD though.



NONE of us get FSNY HD....sadly. :(

The channel block of 709, 710 and 711 were completely frozen for me ... audio would work, but each channel would only show a freeze-frame and never correct itself. Had to reboot my box to get them working again. They're ok now but who knows for how long.

Yes, i experienced the same weirdness tonite, on TNT HD. Did not need to reboot, just changed the channel and then went back to 710.

NONE of us get FSNY HD....sadly. :(

Staten Island does.

NONE of us get FSNY HD....sadly. :(
We have it on ch. 742. We just don't subscribe to it.

Its not the same cameras.

Each network has its own production

yup...just notice it...they were using different cam cuz of the different angles i saw from the 2 network. anyway...my 9 hd were broadcasting it in 720p and tnt hd were in 1080i. i prefer the tnt hd cuz it were a lil bit sharper as i sat near the tv.

a quick survey...which do u guys prefer when watching sports? 720p or 1080i?

yup...just notice it...they were using different cam cuz of the different angles i saw from the 2 network. anyway...my 9 hd were broadcasting it in 720p and tnt hd were in 1080i. i prefer the tnt hd cuz it were a lil bit sharper as i sat near the tv.

a quick survey...which do u guys prefer when watching sports? 720p or 1080i?

Actually... the My9 broadcast is produced in 1080i by YES and converted to 720p for broadcast on WWOR.

Does anyone know why we do not get Versus HD? According to a press release, TWC has the rights to Versus HD as of April 9th but it is up to each market or some other crap. I asked TWC and this is what they said:

"Thank you for your recent message to Time Warner Cable.

In reference to your inquiry Versus HD is not part of our HD Channel Lineup.

We are making a continuous effort to bring additional HDTV channels to our customers.

Please refer to our website @ for any future plans, services and news updates."

I hate Time Warner Cable.......

wow, thanks, what a pain. Now I alsounderstand why when I fast forward or reverse the picture sometimes goes blank when it hits the commercials.
Another way to fix this problem -- go into the advanced settings, output formats and disable all settings except for 1080i and 720p. This will prevent the box from switching output resolutions.

Scott

HD PPV on Channel 350 is slated to broadcast the "Delahoya vs. Mayweather" fight on May 5th. Does this now mean that TWCNYC will only use this spare bandwidth to sell $50 PPV fights instead of adding another HD channel like ESPN2-HD? If things weren't so pathetic this would simply be just another rhetorical question.

Is this true? We get PPV-HD on 350? So the Delahoya/Merriweather fight is going to be shown on CH.350 in HD? I didn't know about CH.350. Is this for all of the NYC area? I'm in Queens.

Another thing, I noticed last night that CH.721 (INHD) is now called "MOJO"

Is this true? We get PPV-HD on 350? So the Delahoya/Merriweather fight is going to be shown on CH.350 in HD? I didn't know about CH.350. Is this for all of the NYC area? I'm in Queens.

It should be for all of NYC... just double check your channel guide.... (as far as I can tell - the channel was just activated within the last week)

Another thing, I noticed last night that CH.721 (INHD) is now called "MOJO"

It's just a renaming - been expected for a while

Does anyone know why we do not get Versus HD? According to a press release, TWC has the rights to Versus HD as of April 9th but it is up to each market or some other crap. I asked TWC and this is what they said:

"Thank you for your recent message to Time Warner Cable.

In reference to your inquiry Versus HD is not part of our HD Channel Lineup.

We are making a continuous effort to bring additional HDTV channels to our customers.

Please refer to our website @ for any future plans, services and news updates."

I hate Time Warner Cable.......


... look back in this thread a bit....

We've complained about this for a while....
(Its a common complaint for much of the country with TWC or Cablevision)

There really isn't much we can do except email and call the right people and bitch and moan, since they do have the rights to add it.

... look back in this thread a bit....

We've complained about this for a while....
(Its a common complaint for much of the country with TWC or Cablevision)

There really isn't much we can do except email and call the right people and bitch and moan, since they do have the rights to add it.

It's really a bunch of crap...since they don't have to pay anything (or do they) to carry the channel, and they obviously have the bandwidth to add it. It's just lame really. At this point they should just give us something to replace INHD2.

I have total pic freezeups on virtually ALL HD stations at the moment!! I can hear the AUDIO, but the pics are FROZEN....ALL of them! :mad:

I have total pic freezeups on virtually ALL HD stations at the moment!! I can hear the AUDIO, but the pics are FROZEN....ALL of them! :mad:
Ditto bro. BTW my FOX HD hasn't worked in about 2 weeks and my modem is back up to being at dismal speeds.
f twc. i hate them.

Audio keeps dropping on 705 only, nothing else- just audio drops I'm on the UWS.

O boy.... just had a 10 second freeze-up on ABCHD during the Lost opening title screen

Good thing I'm watching.... since i just check the recording and it just jumped over it completely (Even though there was sounds at the time)

This better not happen during the show......

I did the cold boot....left the box unplugged for over 5 minutes...and when i plugged it back in, after it did its "boot" thing...everything is back to normal, working fine. HOWEVER...if there was something that i really wanted to see and i had to unplug the box, i would have been majorly pissed.

I did the cold boot....left the box unplugged for over 5 minutes...and when i plugged it back in, after it did its "boot" thing...everything is back to normal, working fine. HOWEVER...if there was something that i really wanted to see and i had to unplug the box, i would have been majorly pissed.Yeah…. Definitely a prudent thing to do whenever viewing time permits, (to do the cold / hard reboot thing).

By the way, I haven’t had audio on 705 all night.

Yeah…. Definitely a prudent thing to do whenever viewing time permits, (to do the cold / hard reboot thing).

By the way, I haven’t had audio on 705 all night.

Audio was out for me too on 705 (i only checked at about 11:30)

Works now.

Hey Berk32, thanks for taking time out to answer my questions. I checked CH.350 on my Cable guide and it shows up as PPV-HD, I already went ahead & ordered the fight. Should look uber sweet on my HP MD5880n 1080p DLP!

Anyone know how much they charging for the fight? it doesn't state it on the purchase.

Hey Berk32, thanks for taking time out to answer my questions. I checked CH.350 on my Cable guide and it shows up as PPV-HD, I already went ahead & ordered the fight. Should look uber sweet on my HP MD5880n 1080p DLP!

Anyone know how much they charging for the fight? it doesn't state it on the purchase.

$54.95

It says so when I try to buy it.

For surround sound, is dolby digital 5.1 usually only available on the HD channels, or can i find DD 5.1 on others channels or shows also?

Hey Guys and Gals, UniversalHD is giving a preview of movies that will be available on it's sister channel "CHILLER" Unfortunately we do not have CHILLER yet but an HD network for chiller is in the works so maybe it is something to look forward to soon. Anyway, her is a list of the movies that will be premiereing this month:

CHILLER ON UniHD
ENCORES
Nightmares 5/1, 5/15, 5/26
The Frighteners 5/3, 5/12
The Andromeda Strain 5/15
Jaws 5/19
Night of the Living Dead 5/24
Twelve Monkeys 5/26
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein 5/27

THURSDAY NIGHT MOVIES, beginning at 8pm ET
PREMIERES
EdTV 5/31
ENCORES
The Frighteners 5/3
McHale's Navy 5/10
Babe 5/17
The Guru 5/24

FRIDAY NIGHT MOVIES, beginning at 10pm ET
PREMIERES
The Breakfast Club 5/4
ENCORES
The Doors 5/11 v Dante's Peak 5/18
The People Vs. Larry Flynt 5/25

SCI FI SATURDAY MOVIES, beginning at 10pm ET
ENCORES
Ghostbusters 2 5/5
The Frighteners 5/12
Jaws 5/19
Twelve Monkeys 5/26

SUNDAY NIGHT DOUBLE-FEATURES, 8pm & 11pm (ET)
PREMIERES
Days of Thunder 5/20
ENCORES
The Doors 5/6
The People Vs. Larry Flynt 5/6
Leave It to Beaver 5/13
Lorenzo's Oil 5/13
Spy Game 5/20
Ghostbusters 2 5/27
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein 5/27


My personal choices that I want to see are The Frighteners, Both Ghostbuster Movies, Jaws, and Days of Thunder. They all will be broadcasted in HD and they should look great.

Here is something we can watch in SD unless HistoryHD is in the pipe. All the projected channels that I have seen usually do not incled the History channel. But if they do get one before these shows it would be nice to see them in HD

Here is the list of shows:

A GLOBAL WARNING - Premieres 4th Quarter 2007

This special, on one of the most hotly debated and discussed issues of the day, will shed light on an important question: is the specter of the predicted global warming the result of industrialization and human activity, part of a long and natural cycle, or a combination of the two? In the planet's 4.5 billion year history, its climate has been affected by many events: the sun's activities; volcanoes which have enveloped the Earth with ash, gases and CO2; the interplay of moving continents and ocean currents; cosmic impacts; ice ages; and now the human race and its industrial output. This special will see which of these effects are operating right now and try to separate out manmade warming from natural causes.

STALKING JIHAD - Premieres 4th Quarter 2007

Based on the upcoming book Stalking Jihad in Paradise from best-selling author Mark Bowden (Black Hawk Down), the special goes on the trail with Bowden to the Philippine Islands where he uncovers the story of a covert intelligence operation to bring back Americans caught in the crossfire of the "War on Terror." The documentary is an astonishing glimpse into how U.S. intelligence tracks terrorists, based on information that was only recently declassified by the CIA, including thermal video imagery of a wild shootout on the high seas.

LOST BOOK OF NOSTRADAMUS - Premieres 4th Quarter 2007

An exclusive investigation into how a manuscript believed to have been written by Nostradamus, ended up in Italy's National Library in Rome. The book, which was stumbled upon by an Italian journalist, contains a series of never before deciphered prophecies. The special will also reveal new insights into the life of Nostradamus, his relationship with his son, Cesar, and his connection to the Vatican.

MANHUNT - Premieres 4th Quarter 2007

For 12 days, John Wilkes Booth, the man who assassinated Abraham Lincoln and engineered a handful of attacks on other government officials, evaded the greatest manhunt in history. Ten thousand federal troops were assembled to track down Booth and his co-conspirator, David Herold. This follows the hunt for Booth - across the 11th Street Bridge, through the Maryland countryside, across the Potomac River, and finally to where Booth was gunned down inside a burning tobacco barn in northern Virginia. The story is one that strongly resonates today as most historians consider the Lincoln conspiracy and the hunt for Booth to be the unraveling of the first terrorist plot against the American government.

EGYPT PROJECT (tentative title) - Premieres 1st Quarter 2008

While the exploits of the great pharaoh Khufu -- who built the Great Pyramids of Giza -- are well known to Egyptologists everywhere, much less well-known are the accomplishments of his son, the pharaoh Radjedef, who spent much of his life living in his father's shadow. This special exclusively follows what could be the biggest discovery in Ancient Egypt since the King Tut's tomb was found in 1923 by the British archaeologist Howard Carter.

CHINA'S FIRST EMPEROR - Premieres 3rd Quarter 2008

In its first major co-production with an American television network, CHINA Central Television (CCTV) joins forces with The History Channel to take viewers on a spectacular once-in-a-lifetime adventure to ancient China to tell the epic saga of Chin Shihuang, who commanded an army larger than Napoleon's, conquered more territory than Alexander the Great; created a realm that outlasted the Roman Empire; and built the Great Wall that still stands today. This is the definitive story of The First Emperor of China (259-210 B.C.) and his warrior army that led an entire population through war and strife and conceived of what is now considered the last empire-modern day China.

Check for more info
http://www.History.com.
I know there is a lot of people that will be interested in this even if they don't make a hd channel. Myself included.

history has a HD channel that's in Europe. the US version is TBA

HD on Yankee game just went out. It froze now it's in SD YES having problems again.

HD on Yankee game just went out. It froze now it's in SD YES having problems again.
after noon game today?

after noon game today?

rescheduled game (doubleheader)- rainout last night

yeess, series tied 2-2.
Next game on Friday should be in HD on MSG.

Mmmm, I thought Game 5 was a VS exclusive, so I'd say it's in SD as they are not allowing VS HD to be available in the NY market even thought they made a big deal about signing a national carriage agreement FOR VS HD.

Mmmm, I thought Game 5 was a VS exclusive, so I'd say it's in SD as they are not allowing VS HD to be available in the NY market even thought they made a big deal about signing a national carriage agreement FOR VS HD.


Nope
Not exclusive! (Games 1 and 4 were)

Enjoy the game tonight on MSGHD!

(the rest of the "cable" country can actually only get the game in HD tonight on MOJO at midnight)

Another way to fix this problem -- go into the advanced settings, output formats and disable all settings except for 1080i and 720p. This will prevent the box from switching output resolutions.

Scott

In the same vein, I discovered something new the other day. I was trying the latest "trick" to get black side pillars instead of the totally distracting gray ones on my sisters set-up. Wouldn't work. Messed around and found out that ONLY if I enable 480p in that setting did the "trick" work.

Before someone asks, the "trick" is to set the primary Aspect Ratio to "Standard, 4:3!!" A widescreen 16:9 image will still be there hen it's sent that way.

For surround sound, is dolby digital 5.1 usually only available on the HD channels, or can i find DD 5.1 on others channels or shows also?

I have been getting DD 5.1 long before I ever got a HD display. It was only done on the premium's primary channels, and could be there for one broadcast, but not for another of the same movie. Propelled me to invest in a top flight HT system about 6 years ago.

With the HD channels, there's obviously a lot more DD 5.1 around (like broadcast/network channels). Still, things CAN pop up that aren't DD 5.1... I watched a bit of T-1 yesterday on SHO HD and it was NOT broadcast in DD 5.1.

when did we get MOJO HD - looks to be just like the channel it replaces

when did we get MOJO HD - looks to be just like the channel it replacesIt's just a name change. The programming is similar, perhaps a bit more testosterone.
http://www.mojohd.com/

As long as they keep Three Sheets, i'm happy! Love that show!

As long as they keep Three Sheets, i'm happy! Love that show!
http://www.mojohd.com/schedule/ :cool:

Picture is frozen and they're simultaneously broadcasting the radio and spanish audio version of the game.

WHY no HD on the HOME GAME tonite on YES HD?? :mad:

WHY no HD on the HOME GAME tonite on YES HD?? :mad:Son of a beach!!! :mad: I had 708 YESHD set up on the buffer... now I missed the first half... got the game on 725 ESPNHD now.

Earlier I was watching the Yankees and noticied the freeze up. I left the game at 5 zip NY. I turn it on now :eek: 10 to 8 Seattle and counting...

I'll stick with the Rangers and the Nets.

Now, :rolleyes: after I post ^^ Yes is frozen... it's back..just in time for half time. :rolleyes:

Now, :rolleyes: after I post ^^ Yes is frozen... it's back..just in time for half time. :rolleyes:

You not missing much, pitching stinking it up again after getting a 5-0 lead on the Mariners. It's now 15-8 Mariners after 7innings. Yikes!

You not missing much, pitching stinking it up again after getting a 5-0 lead on the Mariners. It's now 15-8 Mariners after 7innings. Yikes!

It "don't get" much uglier than that. :mad:

this morn on THE FAN, Richard Neer said he has DIRECT TV, and some of the games on VERSUS have NOT been on in hi def. now that's kinda interesting, because...i assumed it was just TWC that was SCREWING *us* locally, by depriving the subscribers of the HD version of these games. SO, does this mean that Versus has NOT been doing all the playoff games in HD??

this morn on THE FAN, Richard Neer said he has DIRECT TV, and some of the games on VERSUS have NOT been on in hi def. now that's kinda interesting, because...i assumed it was just TWC that was SCREWING *us* locally, by depriving the subscribers of the HD version of these games. SO, does this mean that Versus has NOT been doing all the playoff games in HD??

Versus hasn't done most games played in Canada in HD (games they did not produce, but broadcasted the CBC feed)

Also, Thursday and Friday games aren't shown on the Versus-GolfHD channel - but have "sometimes" been shown on InHD/MOJO (sometimes live... sometimes tape delay) - I don't think DirecTV has shown most of these games......



(Also.... DirecTV has not shown all of the available games in general..... since they don't have a dedicated channel for VersusHD...)

ESPN2 HD launches on June 14th!!!! I guess I was right about TWC NYC having the extra bandwidth to carry HD PPV means that they could also launch another fulltime HD channel.



http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

ESPN2 HD launches on June 14th!!!! I guess I was right about TWC NYC having the extra bandwidth to carry HD PPV means that they could also launch another fulltime HD channel.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html


WOOOOOOOOOOO

but look what else...

ESPNHD is moving off the HDXtra tier.... (That'll leave us with 3 channels.....)

And they're COMPLETELY reconfiguring the lineup

Looks like all HD channels will correspond to their SD channel # with a 7 in front (about time they got that right)

Also, the SD subchannels will move into the 100s

(still no MHD, A&EHD, or FSNYHD... which Staten Island already has.....)

wow, looks like somebody at TWC has been reading our rants. thanks HDTV Dude

The following changes are planned for June 14, 2007:

ESPNHD changes from the HDXtra tier to the HD Standard.
Kids Thirteen moves from channel 713 to 160.
WABC News Now moves from channel 729 to 163.
WABC TV Plus moves from channel 730 to 164.
WNBC 4 Weather Plus moves from channel 731 to 161.
WNBC 4.4 moves from channel 732 to 162.
HBO HD moves from channel 701 to 780.
Showtime HD will move from 703 to 779.
Discovery HD moves from channel 706 to 718.
YES HD moves from channel 708 to 730.
TNT HD moves from channel 710 to 703.
MSG HD moves from channel 712 to 727.
CinemaMax HD moves from channel 719 to 776.
Starz HD moves from channel 720 to 777.
MOJO (formerly INHD) moves from channel 721 to 796.
HDNet Movies moves from channel 723 to 797.
HDNet moves from channel 724 to 798.
ESPN HD moves from channel 725 to 728.
Sports Net New York HD moves from channel 741 to 726.
ESPN Deportes launches on channel 821.
ESPN2HD launches on channel 729.
Playboy SVOD launches on channel 335.

ESPNHD is moving off the HDXtra tier.... (That'll leave us with 3 channels.....)
3? That's ridiculous. They should just get rid of the pay tier. If they want us to pay then give us a real pay per view on demand channel.

ESPN2 HD launches on June 14th!!!! I guess I was right about TWC NYC having the extra bandwidth to carry HD PPV means that they could also launch another fulltime HD channel.



http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

THANKS HDTV Dude, for being the bearer of good TWC news, for a change. :D

Baseball Fans - how could you miss this ? ESPN Deportes launches on channel 821. They had all the live World Baseball Classic games last year that we didn't. I believe they have access to carib winter league games.

Question - Will it be limited to Spanish tier subscribers or is it available to all ?

Baseball Fans - how could you miss this ? ESPN Deportes launches on channel 821. They had all the live World Baseball Classic games last year that we didn't. I believe they have access to carib winter league games.

Question - Will it be limited to Spanish tier subscribers or is it available to all ?

yes Espn Deportes is good, it will help me brush up on my spanish.
I hope they will add Espn-U in time for college football, hockey & basketball season.

don't know if it's available for all.

I just realized that one might be able to pick up the fight tonight on ones Cam Tuner if someone in your building and/or block has ordered it.

Or maybe that just applies to OnDemand???

I just realized that one might be able to pick up the fight tonight on ones Cam Tuner if someone in your building and/or block has ordered it.

Or maybe that just applies to OnDemand???

That's an on-demand thing...

That's an on-demand thing...

oh well, did get a whole bunch of mlb extra innings channels.

that's good.

...the fight tonight...OnDemand Just out of curiosity…is the PPV fight in HD?

Not that it would make any difference in whether I’d purchase it or not. :rolleyes:

That’s some crazy spondoolicks. :eek: For me to ante up, they’d have to put Ali and Frazier in Peabody's "Wayback Machine", to have another go at it. :)

Just out of curiosity…is the PPV fight in HD?

Not that it would make any difference in whether I’d purchase it or not. :rolleyes:

That’s some crazy spondoolicks. :eek: For me to ante up, they’d have to put Ali and Frazier in Peabody's "Wayback Machine", to have another go at it. :)

yes, on the newly added HD-PPV channel 350.

yes, on the newly added HD-PPV channel 350.I’m aware of 350 and that it’s an HD channel ;) so it should be obvious that anything purchased on that channel would be in HD…right? :rolleyes: ... but call me TW skeptical. I just wanted varification. :)

some horrible screen freezes tonite (during commercials in particular), audio drops, etc. It was REALLY bad between 11:30P and 12:15, out here in Queens. i had to change the channel and then return...that seemed to be the only way to deal with it. :mad:

some horrible screen freezes tonite (during commercials in particular), audio drops, etc. It was REALLY bad between 11:30P and 12:15, out here in Queens. i had to change the channel and then return...that seemed to be the only way to deal with it. :mad:

I thought it was jus me. same here.
I also couldn't access some SD channels like fsny.

some horrible screen freezes tonite (during commercials in particular), audio drops, etc. It was REALLY bad between 11:30P and 12:15, out here in Queens. i had to change the channel and then return...that seemed to be the only way to deal with it. :mad:Yeah Mike, I’m seeing that too but I’m not sure what’s causing it. It’s as if we’re getting two feeds at once and one freezes and then the other clicks on. :confused:

Regardless, it’s only occurring during commercials, for me, and not affecting the game. :cool:

Yeah Mike, I’m seeing that too but I’m not sure what’s causing it. It’s as if we’re getting two feeds at once and one freezes and then the other clicks on. :confused:

Regardless, it’s only occurring during commercials, for me, and not affecting the game. :cool:

At one point, i got so disgusted, i went to TNT SD to watch the post game.

WOOOOOOOOOOO

but look what else...

And they're COMPLETELY reconfiguring the lineup

Looks like all HD channels will correspond to their SD channel # with a 7 in front (about time they got that right)

Not sure how I feel about that. Sucks having to relearn the channel numbers...considering I don't watch SD cable it didn't really matter to me that some of the channel #'s didn't match. I guess it's a small price to pay if we're getting more HD though. Although I would have liked to hear that more than 1 HD channel is being added. But it's something.

thanks HDTV Dude

The following changes are planned for June 14, 2007:

ESPNHD changes from the HDXtra tier to the HD Standard.
Kids Thirteen moves from channel 713 to 160.
WABC News Now moves from channel 729 to 163.
WABC TV Plus moves from channel 730 to 164.
WNBC 4 Weather Plus moves from channel 731 to 161.
WNBC 4.4 moves from channel 732 to 162.
HBO HD moves from channel 701 to 780.
Showtime HD will move from 703 to 779.
Discovery HD moves from channel 706 to 718.
YES HD moves from channel 708 to 730.
TNT HD moves from channel 710 to 703.
MSG HD moves from channel 712 to 727.
CinemaMax HD moves from channel 719 to 776.
Starz HD moves from channel 720 to 777.
MOJO (formerly INHD) moves from channel 721 to 796.
HDNet Movies moves from channel 723 to 797.
HDNet moves from channel 724 to 798.
ESPN HD moves from channel 725 to 728.
Sports Net New York HD moves from channel 741 to 726.
ESPN Deportes launches on channel 821.
ESPN2HD launches on channel 729.
Playboy SVOD launches on channel 335.Thanks HDTV Dude and Andy for organizing the list.

I hope they “delete” all of the blank channel spots to enable smoother surfing.

Not sure how I feel about that. Sucks having to relearn the channel numbers...considering I don't watch SD cable it didn't really matter to me that some of the channel #'s didn't match. I guess it's a small price to pay if we're getting more HD though. Although I would have liked to hear that more than 1 HD channel is being added. But it's something.

I think it will take most of us only a day or two to become accustomed to the new HD channel line up and in the long run it will make things flow much easier by not having all those SD channels smack dab in the middle of the HD channel flow.

Here's a first look of our June 14th channel line up, provided you subscribe to all the premium channels and have the HD-Xtra pack.

702 = WCBS HD
703 = TNT HD
704 = WNBC HD
705 = WNYW HD
707 = ABC HD
709 = MY9 HD
711 = CW11 HD
713 = Thirteen HD
718 = Discovery HD
726 = SportsNet NY HD
727 = MSG HD
728 = ESPN HD
729 = ESPN2 HD
730 = YES HD
740 = Universal HD
776 = CMAX HD
777 = Starz HD
779 = SHO HD
780 = HBO HD
796 = MOJO HD
797 = HDNet Movies
798 = HDNet

Now if we could only get MHD, A&E HD & FSNY HD like in Staten Island and perhaps NGC HD like in parts of Hawaii, it would be a pretty good line up.

Thanks HDTV Dude and Andy for organizing the list.

I hope they “delete” all of the blank channel spots to enable smoother surfing.

Absolutely, Larry! I mean, those channels are now all over the place! But at least it gives us the impression/illusion(?) that at some point in our lifetimes, they'll fill IN those blank channels with more HD content.

------------------------------------
Kids Thirteen moves from channel 713 to 160.
WABC News Now moves from channel 729 to 163.
WABC TV Plus moves from channel 730 to 164.
WNBC 4 Weather Plus moves from channel 731 to 161.
WNBC 4.4 moves from channel 732 to 162.
-----------------------------------------------------

Goodbye and good luck. I coulda cared less about these stations...never watched them; a total waste of bandwidth.

They forgot to move NJN on 750, unless the plan on actually providing the HD feed of that channel in the future.

Since they kept UHD on 740, it might change to USA once NBC-Universal decides to launch scifi, bravo.

They forgot to move NJN on 750, unless the plan on actually providing the HD feed of that channel in the future.


750 is a digital broadcast of the NJN network... so thats why it remains...

It could technically start showing HD at any time
(i think Staten Island also has WLNY on 755, which is a digital-only broadcast now... but no HD)

Did anyone else notice on the channel changes page that TWC says that CNN OD, Court TV OD, TBS OD, & TNT OD might be dropped because agreements with the programmers might expire.

Umm, those are all Time Warner owned channels.
Maybe someone didn't word this properly and these lame OD channels are just being dropped????

Also when did they add Fox Reality??? I just noticed it on ch 158.

Actually... the My9 broadcast is produced in 1080i by YES and converted to 720p for broadcast on WWOR.
Thanks berk32, I was wondering this all weekend, But was never used the computer this weekend. Is my9 broadcasting all it's show in 720p? Or did YES down grade the game for them for some unknown reason? Don't get me wrong the Yankee game looked great. I wouldn't say better than a YES channel game like one poster said, but it is a huge step forward to what we got last year.

Vincent: For your question. .My best answer would be, it depends on the channel and the coverage. Fox looked great at 720p this weekend. But then enter UnivHD with world of adveture, or whatever it is called, and the Ranger game yesterday, they both looked beautiful. I felt like I was in madison garden with a mid court view. It is very hard to detect the differences whith a naked eye. The bottom line is if you enjoy both HD res, it doesn't matter which is better, just sit back and enjoy the show!

I have total pic freezeups on virtually ALL HD stations at the moment!! I can hear the AUDIO, but the pics are FROZEN....ALL of them! :mad:
This is one of the reasons I have component and HDMI connected at all times. I do get that pausing also but at least you get a Picture freeze, my TV goes Black. This I have experienced ever since I got the 8300HDDVR. The 3250HD never gave me problems like this. If you have HDMI I suggest also plug in Component cables also. If this is happening with component I really do not have a fix for you. When I make the switch any kind of delay I might be experiencing is gone 90% of the time. It isn't perfect but at least I have an option.
Good luck guys

Hey Berk32, thanks for taking time out to answer my questions. I checked CH.350 on my Cable guide and it shows up as PPV-HD, I already went ahead & ordered the fight. Should look uber sweet on my HP MD5880n 1080p DLP!

Anyone know how much they charging for the fight? it doesn't state it on the purchase.
We have a PPV HD channel? Is it just for special events like the fight? If I would have know that I would have not gone out. I think berk gets the thanks for this find. TY. I read every bill I get and didn't get any pre-notice. I am still reasing so I guees someone gave feed back of the PQ, so I won't ask until I am all caught up.

Did anyone else notice on the channel changes page that TWC says that CNN OD, Court TV OD, TBS OD, & TNT OD might be dropped because agreements with the programmers might expire.

Umm, those are all Time Warner owned channels.
Maybe someone didn't word this properly and these lame OD channels are just being dropped????


well... don't forget..... "time warner cable" and "time warner corporate" aren't exactly the same. Deals are technically still needed. (they even trade separately in the NYSE... TWC vs. TWX)

It also just seems like to be standard procedure for this new "changes" website.... any channel with a deal expiration date coming up that hasn't been renewed gets listed there.... (c'mon... you really think WABC was going to be taken away from our lineup back in March?... again...)

We have a PPV HD channel? Is it just for special events like the fight? If I would have know that I would have not gone out. I think berk gets the thanks for this find. TY. I read every bill I get and didn't get any pre-notice. I am still reasing so I guees someone gave feed back of the PQ, so I won't ask until I am all caught up.


I wasn't the one who discovered 350 first.... someone else did 2 weeks ago (it first started by showing INHD at the time... and I was hoping it would somehow turn into a temporary VersusHD for us Ranger fans...... but that didn't work out like I had hoped.... it turned into a "HDPPV" channel a day or 2 later)

hmmm maybe they are making room for more HD channels in the 700 range

ESPN2 HD launches on June 14th!!!! I guess I was right about TWC NYC having the extra bandwidth to carry HD PPV means that they could also launch another fulltime HD channel.



http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

:) :) :) :) :) :p :p :D :D :cool: It is about time, but what the F@#K.

Good news with a hint of some bad news:

ESPNHD changes from the HDXtra tier to the HD Standard. Kids Thirteen moves from channel 713 to 160; WABC News Now moves from channel 729 to 163; WABC TV Plus moves from channel 730 to 164; WNBC 4 Weather Plus moves from channel 731 to 161; WNBC 4.4 moves from channel 732 to 162. HBO HD moves from channel 701 to 780, Showtime HD will move from 703 to 779, Discovery HD moves from channel 706 to 718, YES HD moves from channel 708 to 730, TNT HD moves from channel 710 to 703, MSG HD moves from channel 712 to 727, CinemaMax HD moves from channel 719 to 776, Starz HD moves from channel 720 to 777, MOJO (formerly INHD) moves from channel 721 to 796, HDNet Movies moves from channel 723 to 797, HDNet moves from channel 724 to 798, ESPN HD moves from channel 725 to 728, Sports Net New York HD moves from channel 741 to 726. ESPN Deportes launches on channel 821, ESPN2HD launches on channel 729, Playboy SVOD launches on channel 335.

All these changes Put everything scattered around the 700's. Now we all will have to get use to it. Plus now we are paying for only three channels. I think anopther leeter campaign should be started. Now we are paying 8.95 for three channels. Don't get me wrong the look great, some of the best HD available. But not for $9 or $7.50 if you divide the HD DVR Combo in to 2.

Here is the answer to the poster earlier. MOJO (formerly INHD) moves from channel 721 to 796, they just never tols us this was changing, At least I don't remember a change channle announcement.
Add 2 more channels and we are at a total of 23 with more to come.
What was the three added to SI? I know ESPN 2 was one of them.

I have been a on-demand junky, I really hope TWC makes an aggreement with those channels.

Anyway June 14 can't come soon enough, thanks for the kink HDTV.

some horrible screen freezes tonite (during commercials in particular), audio drops, etc. It was REALLY bad between 11:30P and 12:15, out here in Queens. i had to change the channel and then return...that seemed to be the only way to deal with it. :mad:

Dam guys get some sleep, You guys are making me tired just reading how late you guys were up. 2:46 was the latest Post by broadway and Mike earlier. :( :confused: I am up almost at the time you guys signed out. Yarn
Long live HDTV!!

-The change from INHD to MOJO is just a re-branding.... not much else changed about the channel (since it was already "MOJO" on some nights anyways...) It really didn't need an "announcement" since it wasn't that big of a deal.


-coneyparleg, the channels are corresponding to their SD# with a 7 in front.... thats why they are all over the place in the 700s (although they are being bunched together better.... with all of the sports channels in the 720s, movie channels in the ~770s).
So yeah, they are technically making "room" for future additions... with the new HD broadcasts being added much later down the line with an "obvious" new channel number...

I wasn't the one who discovered 350 first.... someone else did 2 weeks ago (it first started by showing INHD at the time... and I was hoping it would somehow turn into a temporary VersusHD for us Ranger fans...... but that didn't work out like I had hoped.... it turned into a "HDPPV" channel a day or 2 later)
Well I take my thanks back!!! :) :p No not really, I still credit you and the person who listed it 2 weeks ago,, because I am not going baxck to weeks of pages to find it. Thanks both of you for making me smile.

No one seemed to give us an opinion of the fight PQ. It obvious isn't worth the $55 way too much to pay for some one that is past his prime. How was the PQ? Any noticable flaws?

For all TWC people, I was reading the SI lineup at TWC website TV Guide and it appears to me that they have other channels that we don't have plus a few we have that they do not have. Could someone in SI please explain further. These channels I got from the TWC TV Guide for SI:

755 WLNYHD
725 ESPNHD
724 HNNET MOVIES
723 HDNET
721 INHD Not listed as MOJO yet
720 PPV HD
714 13kidsHD
713 13 HD
711 WPIXHD
710 TNTHD
709 WWOR HD
708 HD Special
707 WABCHD
706 DicoveryHD
705 FoxHD
704 WNBCHD
703 SHOWHD
702 WCBSHD
701 HBCHD
19 channels

These channels are listed under the channel guide at the same at TWC SI:
701 HBO HD
702 WCBS HDTV
703 Showtime HD
704 WNBC HDTV
705 WNYW HD
706 Discovery HD Theater
707 WABC HDTV
708 YES HD (HD Specials)
709 WWOR HD
710 TNT in HD
711 WPIX-HD
712 MSG HD (HD Specials)
713 Thirteen HD
718 MHD
719 Cinemax HD
720 Starz HD
721 MOJO
723 HDNet Movies
724 HD Net
725 ESPN-HD
740 Universal HD
741 SportsNet NY HD

Anyone is SI can tell me which one is right? If the top is the correct one, there is no reason why they shouldn't get more channels because they were behind Us in Qeens, Manhattan, and some NJ. But if the second list is true They Have a 1 channel difference which is MHD, ESPN2HD doesn't show up on either list right now. But that one cancels out because we all getting it by 6/14/07. But if you look at the first list they get a coupl of extras we do not get 13kidshd and WlNYhd. only you guys in SI would know better thean me. Thanks guys, just curious about the obvious differences in the two channels lineups.

...although they are being bunched together better.... with all of the sports channels in the 720s, movie channels in the ~770s).
...Yeah, after seeing the new channel layout it does flow much better. I like this new logical grouping much more. :cool:

SI also has A&E-HD and FSNY-HD.

it's just not on the website.

SI also has A&E-HD and FSNY-HD.

it's just not on the website.

Maybe we'll get them by the end of the year? (thanks to a post in this thread:)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10460021&&#post10460021

Quote:
Time Warner Cable had deployed [switched video] technology in eight divisions at the end of 2006, and it is aiming to have it in three-fourths of all 23 divisions by the end of 2007.


http://multichannel.com/article/CA6439205.html



Will we be in the lucky 3/4 or the unlucky 1/4 (probably more likely, knowing that TWC usually does everything LAST in NYC due to the size of the market).

Let's hope when TWC does re-negotiates the carriage deals below that they have the foresight to include the HD feeds for HGTV and the 3 new HD channels being launched by Starz at the end of the summer. http://www.tvpredictions.com/starz050107.htm


Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future:

Chinese Channel, Chinese Cinema, CNN On Demand, Court TV On Demand, Encore, Encore Action, Encore Drama, Encore Love, Encore Mystery, Encore Western, Encore WAM, GAC On Demand, Greek Channel, HGTV, HITN, RTVI, Starz, Starz Cinema, Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, Starz Kids & Family, TBS On Demand, TNT On Demand, and The Arabic Channel.

Updated Negotiations Unknown List

Future HD channels update


The Movie Channel-HD - is done, supposedly
Food Network-HD - in negotiations
HGTV-HD - in negotiations
Lifetime Movie Network-HD - in negotiations
NFL Network-HD - in negotiations
Outdoor Channel 2-HD – is not in the works


Known Deals Done

HBO-HD
Cinemax-HD
Showtime-HD
Starz-HD
ESPN-HD
ESPN2-HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
MOJO
Universal-HD
TNT-HD
Discovery-HD
MHD
A&E-HD
WealthTV-HD - Currently TWC has a deal only for HD-VOD content & only in San Antonio
Golf/Versus-HD - Has the rights to as of 4/1/07, but has not yet added.
National Geographic-HD - has been added only in TWC of Hawaii
Sleuth-HD - Has the rights to, but has not yet added.
ESPN News-HD - coming to TWC in 2008
Disney Channel-HD - coming to TWC in 2008
ABC Family-HD - coming to TWC in 2008


Negotiations Unknown

Starz Comedy-HD
Starz Edge-HD
Starz Kids & Family-HD
Animal Planet-HD
TLC-HD
The Science Channel-HD
Discovery Channel-HD
Chiller-HD
Sci-Fi-HD
USA-HD
Bravo-HD
History-HD
TBS-HD
CNN-HD
CartoonNet-HD
TheWeatherChannel-HD
FX-HD
Speed-HD
Smithsonian-HD
BBC-HD
Al Jazeera-HD
MGM-HD
Big Ten Network-HD
Vatican-HD
The Tennis Channel-HD
TBN-HD
IFC-HD
Toon Disney-HD
MSNBC-HD

VOOM Channels
Rave HD
Equator HD
Gallery HD
Animania HD
Rush HD
Ultra HD
Guy TV HD
Majestic HD
Monsters HD
HD News
Film Fest HD
Kung Fu HD
WorldSport HD
World Cinema HD
Gameplay HD
Family Room HD
Treasure HD

For all TWC people, I was reading the SI lineup at TWC website TV Guide and it appears to me that they have other channels that we don't have plus a few we have that they do not have. Could someone in SI please explain further. These channels I got from the TWC TV Guide for SI:

755 WLNYHD
725 ESPNHD
724 HNNET MOVIES
723 HDNET
721 INHD Not listed as MOJO yet
720 PPV HD
714 13kidsHD
713 13 HD
711 WPIXHD
710 TNTHD
709 WWOR HD
708 HD Special
707 WABCHD
706 DicoveryHD
705 FoxHD
704 WNBCHD
703 SHOWHD
702 WCBSHD
701 HBCHD
19 channels

These channels are listed under the channel guide at the same at TWC SI:
701 HBO HD
702 WCBS HDTV
703 Showtime HD
704 WNBC HDTV
705 WNYW HD
706 Discovery HD Theater
707 WABC HDTV
708 YES HD (HD Specials)
709 WWOR HD
710 TNT in HD
711 WPIX-HD
712 MSG HD (HD Specials)
713 Thirteen HD
718 MHD
719 Cinemax HD
720 Starz HD
721 MOJO
723 HDNet Movies
724 HD Net
725 ESPN-HD
740 Universal HD
741 SportsNet NY HD

Anyone is SI can tell me which one is right? If the top is the correct one, there is no reason why they shouldn't get more channels because they were behind Us in Qeens, Manhattan, and some NJ. But if the second list is true They Have a 1 channel difference which is MHD, ESPN2HD doesn't show up on either list right now. But that one cancels out because we all getting it by 6/14/07. But if you look at the first list they get a coupl of extras we do not get 13kidshd and WlNYhd. only you guys in SI would know better thean me. Thanks guys, just curious about the obvious differences in the two channels lineups.
This is what I see in my channel list in the 700s:

701 HBO HD
702 WCBS HD
703 Showtime HD
704 WNBC HD
705 WNYW HD
706 Discovery HD
707 WABC HD
708 YES HD (full time)
709 WWOR HD
710 TNT HD
711 WPIX HD
712 MSG HD (full time)
713 WNET
714 Kids 13
718 MHD
719 Cinemax HD
720 Starz HD
721 MOJO HD
723 HD Net Movies
724 HD Net
725 ESPN HD
729 ABC Now
730 WABC+
731 WNBC Weather Plus
732 WNBC-DT 4.4
740 Universal HD
741 SNY HD (full time)
746 A&E HD
748 FSNY HD
750 WNJN (not HD)

This is one of the reasons I have component and HDMI connected at all times. I do get that pausing also but at least you get a Picture freeze, my TV goes Black. This I have experienced ever since I got the 8300HDDVR. The 3250HD never gave me problems like this. If you have HDMI I suggest also plug in Component cables also. If this is happening with component I really do not have a fix for you. When I make the switch any kind of delay I might be experiencing is gone 90% of the time. It isn't perfect but at least I have an option.
Good luck guys

Thanks. Yes, i have and use HDMI as well as component. I find the freeze-ups aren't nearly as horrible on component as they are on HDMI, FWIW.

it still blows my mind that SI gets extra channels but Manhattan does not, but hopefully it should be soon.

let me get this right ESPNHD goes to standard packagae but will ESPN2HD be standard to because if it is I'll just cancel the HD-tier package those channels do nothing for me unless there is something in the near future you people might know is gonna be added.

as of june 14th the only HD channels in the HDXtra Package will be:

MOJO
HDNet
HDNet Movies

and I will be tempted to drop the package.

I am considering dropping the HDXtra Package service until next hockey season and then pick it up for the extra games outside of NY Rangers coverage.

as of june 14th the only HD channels in the HDXtra Package will be:

MOJO
HDNet
HDNet Movies

and I will be tempted to drop the package.
But HDNet & HDNet Movies are the 2 best HD channels we have....

it still blows my mind that SI gets extra channels but Manhattan does not, but hopefully it should be soon.
It's not that mind-blowing. Their cable network was installed after Manhattan's was, so their wiring is newer and higher-bandwidth. Hence, they can fit more HD channels on their system.

Additionally, their borough is less populous than Manhattan and were able to move more quickly to force people off their analog packages and switch to digital so that they could remove the analog channels from their lines, freeing up bandwidth....

And A&E HD, FSNY HD and MHD will still be in HDXtra.

Unless I missed something.

And A&E HD, FSNY HD and MHD will still be in HDXtra.

Unless I missed something.
Those 3 are not part of HDXtra

Those 3 are not part of HDXtra
So why don't we get them? They must be either DTValue or HDXtra.

MHD is listed on the website as being part of Digital Starter, but we don't get that either. Methinks a call to Customer Service is in order.

So why don't we get them? They must be either DTValue or HDXtra.

MHD is listed on the website as being part of Digital Starter, but we don't get that either. Methinks a call to Customer Service is in order.
Weird. I get those 3 but I also subscribe to HDXtra. I would definitely call.

Don't mind the channel number re-assignments as I'd be only looking for ALL HD channels in a continuous row so they are easy to scroll through.

As for less HDXtra, like Scott, think HDNets 2 channels rank up there with the premiums. They are doing older, well liked and popular movies plus a bunch of other programming. I'm watching them all the time. So it's still somewhat worth the 5 bucks extra.

HOWEVER, now that ESPN HD is moving to Standard, here is where we are really, really getting reamed. Back in January, upstate NY lost InHD2 (just like us) AND had ESPN HD moved to standard. Same as us, but both at once. AND as COMPENSATION to it's customers, they offered a free full YEAR of a premium (SHO) including it's HD channel.

Time to file a complaint now that they have publicly announced their intentions.

Weird. I get those 3 but I also subscribe to HDXtra. I would definitely call.
On the phone with them now, and the lady claimed MHD wasn't even available in SI yet, even though it's on the website and in my channel guide. I'm on hold waiting for her to speak to her supervisor.

OK, that's weird. She confirmed that we should indeed be getting MHD as it is a part of Digital Starter. They sent a hit to our box and made me do a soft and hard reset. Nothing worked. She put HDXtra on our account to check, and it still didn't come up (neither did A&E HD or FSNY HD, for that matter.)

Next thing I'm going to try is to get a new box. Meh, I was heading to the mall later this afternoon anyway.

But HDNet & HDNet Movies are the 2 best HD channels we have....

yes they are HD 24/7, but for me I'm having a hard time paying 9 bucks for 3 channels that I don't die for.

especially when 30 or so channels are making the jump to HD before the end of the year.

On the phone with them now, and the lady claimed MHD wasn't even available in SI yet, even though it's on the website and in my channel guide. I'm on hold waiting for her to speak to her supervisor.

lets here what they have to say?

Thanks. Yes, i have and use HDMI as well as component. I find the freeze-ups aren't nearly as horrible on component as they are on HDMI, FWIW.
No problem I am here to help when I can.


Unndunn: Also thanks for the list, now that is a better line up then they show on the TWC page. You aren't blowing us away but MOD at a min is the station a lot of the non-SI posters would like earlier/ But June 14 we will cme closer to SI people.

JBBO3314 : To be honest even if you get "stuck" paying for only three channels in the HDExtra service. Have you seen HDnet and HDmovies. These 2 channels alone are among the top HD channels available to us, right after discoveryHD. In my personal view sure they are htiting us hard in you get the DVR by itself but if you have the combo pacxk for $7.50 not a bad deal when to get to view a premium it is $10 min and the DVR another $9. In my view well worth the view for some great HD channels.

Don't get me wrong I do want money back, prorated to whaen they stopped INHD1, and more money come 6/14/07, but this is my opinion. Seeing both sides of the arguement

it still blows my mind that SI gets extra channels but Manhattan does not, but hopefully it should be soon.
NYC minus SI usually waits to trouble shoot all channels before giving it to the remainder of this area. It is easier to hear flaws/complaints from 500,000 customers then a little more than 9 mil in the Manhattn, Brooklyn, Queens & the bronx. but once quality control is at an approved level that we can look forward to the upgrades. This doesn't happen all the time but it happens more then not.

...especially when 30 or so channels are making the jump to HD before the end of the year.

You honestly believe we are going to get ~30 more HD channels by the end of the year?

I just got by cable hooked up today. The HD-PVR box has both HDMI and component outputs. I've got it hooked up via component at the moment. Any compelling reason to use the HDMI output or should I just stick with what I've got?

Also, I noticed the box has a cable output plug. Does it pass through a signal so a second tuner can use it (such as a TV tuner) or is it for something else?

It occurs to me that having the product number for the cable box would help in all this but I don't have it with me at the moment. I can post it later if it makes a difference.

let me get this right ESPNHD goes to standard packagae but will ESPN2HD be standard to because if it is I'll just cancel the HD-tier package those channels do nothing for me unless there is something in the near future you people might know is gonna be added.
all the sports channels are right next to each other with the same numbers as the SD channels just add a 7. IMO and others here think they will all be free, OOPS sorry, included in the DTV value and Starter packs. Who here remembers the days when TWC use to charge for every sports channel individually. That was years ago, maybe as far as 91 or 92. It is so much better that all the Local and National sports channel is include. Remember trying to decide which fan loyalty one would have to choose and get nothing for your other team.

Sorry just reminiscing

Don't mind the channel number re-assignments as I'd be only looking for ALL HD channels in a continuous row so they are easy to scroll through.

As for less HDXtra, like Scott, think HDNets 2 channels rank up there with the premiums. They are doing older, well liked and popular movies plus a bunch of other programming. I'm watching them all the time. So it's still somewhat worth the 5 bucks extra.

HOWEVER, now that ESPN HD is moving to Standard, here is where we are really, really getting reamed. Back in January, upstate NY lost InHD2 (just like us) AND had ESPN HD moved to standard. Same as us, but both at once. AND as COMPENSATION to it's customers, they offered a free full YEAR of a premium (SHO) including it's HD channel.

Time to file a complaint now that they have publicly announced their intentions.

Yeah. not cool. Where can you file a complaint?

Yeah. not cool. Where can you file a complaint?
DOITT Consumer Complaint Form (http://www.nyc.gov/html/doitt/html/consumer/consumer_cable_service_form.shtml)

I am considering dropping the HDXtra Package service until next hockey season and then pick it up for the extra games outside of NY Rangers coverage.
is it really worth dropping. you only save $6. Think about that before you change.

Plus call me optomistic or just someone that prey's to the HD gods all day. With the removal of ESPN and addition of ESPN2 both on basic. There is is a good chance that TWC will be desolving The HDextra. Reason for my thinking is that Cable vision has started claimming that "ALL their HD is included with no extra charge." Maybe TWC wants or will follow suit because FIOS is not able to offer that. They have a premium for HDTV.

Just a thought!!

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Enjoy guys. Later time to go home!

A little side note, which I know I let you guys know much earlier on this thread. If you realy want to get a deal call on sunday they are more likely to give it to you then a weekday.. It is a skeleton crew and So far on 2 occasions for me they aimed to please. You are basically flipping a coin but both times for it came down on heads.

as of june 14th the only HD channels in the HDXtra Package will be:

MOJO
HDNet
HDNet Movies

and I will be tempted to drop the package.

I'm tempted to do the same. BTW, refresh my memory: how much extra per month are we paying for that so-called "package"?? :(

I'm tempted to do the same. BTW, refresh my memory: how much extra per month are we paying for that so-called "package"?? :(

OK, never mind, sorry about that; i didn't really go further down the thread from earlier today to see that some people already addressed my question. :o

I'm tempted to do the same. BTW, refresh my memory: how much extra per month are we paying for that so-called "package"?? :(

$9

Too bad the rangers didn't make it, otherwise we might have goten Versus-HD.

News
Time Warner Adds Versus HD In Buffalo
The channel is added due to the Buffalo Sabres' NHL playoff drive.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (May 8, 2007) -- Time Warner Cable has announced that it will add Versus HD to its high-def lineup in Buffalo.

The cable operator is adding the channel so local hockey fans can watch the Buffalo Sabres in the Eastern Conference Finals against the Ottawa Senators.

Buffalo Business First, a Buffalo-area business journal, reports that the addition of Versus HD is temporary in the Buffalo area.

The Sabres-Senators series begins Thursday night with Versus HD set to broadcast five of the seven games, if the series goes that far.

Time Warner Cable subscribers in Buffalo can watch Versus HD on channel 708, starting May 10, and for the rest of the playoffs.

The cable operator told TVPredictions.com last month that it has obtained the rights to broadcast Versus in high-def. However, Mark Harrad, a Time Warner spokesman, said it's up to the individual Time Warner system whether to add Versus HD.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/versus050807.htm

$9

Thanks Andy. :o

free is too much to charge for that Playboy TV garbage
...from what I hear :)

I just got by cable hooked up today. The HD-PVR box has both HDMI and component outputs. I've got it hooked up via component at the moment. Any compelling reason to use the HDMI output or should I just stick with what I've got?

Also, I noticed the box has a cable output plug. Does it pass through a signal so a second tuner can use it (such as a TV tuner) or is it for something else?

It occurs to me that having the product number for the cable box would help in all this but I don't have it with me at the moment. I can post it later if it makes a difference.

Stick with what you have, but do see if HDMI looks better to you.
I used to split my cable out to another TV, you only get scrambled channels.

What box do you have BTW?