Anyone having Yes network trouble? Mine hasn't worked since yesterday. I get a grey screen

I have the same problem, it's been down since yesturday morning.

Edit: Also the SD channel is giving me audio trouble and looks stretched.

There was a fire at their HQ the other day- Sunday night or early Monday morning.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-sa-fire6sep11,0,5230241.story?coll=stam-news-local-headlines

so does this mean I can't see my Yankees tonight in hd? When is it expected back?

so does this mean I can't see my Yankees tonight in hd? When is it expected back?Not sure. There is nothing on their web site indicating that it will not be broadcast as per usual. There is no mention of the fire which is pretty lame. I don’t understand, in this day and age-- why companies don’t keep their web sites up to date.

Well I do know for a fact that RoadRunner has recently made some major backbone upgrades specific to NYC that have not been made anywhere else on the roadrunner network - so it's quite possible they are ramping up to upgrade speeds there ...

Care to be more specific (several OC-192 lines to the head end???)? BTW, we are 7Mb/512kb, far from 10Mb/768kb you mentioned. I KNOW that upstate they have been at 10Mb for quite a long while now. There are many other areas that get great speed from RR, unfortunately, NYC ain't one of them.

I HAVE noticed that the price of RR has gone up quite a bit if one doesn't have cable service... it used to be 10 bucks more, now it's 15 bucks more per month. Clearly that is targeted at potential satellite owners who may actually need something more than DSL's typical 3Mb/256kb speed.

Plus I'm seeing a new trick... one that is so intermittent that calling TWC would be useless. 4 times in the past 2 weeks, my "cable modem" has mysteriously gone off line. From the lights all I can glean is that it loses touch with the rest of the network. At least 2 (one time 4) total reboots so far seem to bring it back.

Not sure. There is nothing on their web site indicating that it will not be broadcast as per usual. There is no mention of the fire which is pretty lame. I don’t understand, in this day and age-- why companies don’t keep their web sites up to date.

You mean like TWC who is still showing a channel line-up from early June, having not updated the chages that occurred on 6/14? This is where potential customers go to see what they can get...

Stiull, this is so typical when you have a market where large portions of it have absolutely no choice. If I dropped TWC, the ONLY thing I can do with my nice HD display is play DVDs.

You mean like TWC who is still showing a channel line-up from early June, having not updated the chages that occurred on 6/14? This is where potential customers go to see what they can get....:):( Yeah… TW...they represent my point very well. It’s funny and ridiculous at the same time.

... 4 times in the past 2 weeks, my "cable modem" has mysteriously gone off line. From the lights all I can glean is that it loses touch with the rest of the network. At least 2 (one time 4) total reboots so far seem to bring it back.This is disconcerting. Mine went off for a short moment a couple of weeks ago.

I have never noticed this before I had the TW phone service. (I’m just finishing their free trial period. Overall it’s tons better and cheaper than what I was getting from Verizon)

The only reason I knew the modem went down is because my house alarm system works in conjunction with the phone line—and no phone signal triggers the alarm. This of course was 4:30 in the morning. Let me tell you, I have three sirens throughout my home- this is not a sound you want to hear in the middle of a deep sleep.

I’m not sure if I will continue with their phone service, especially after what you are saying. I guess I’ll wait for another heart stopping awakening and then for sure I’ll be gone.

You mean like TWC who is still showing a channel line-up from early June, having not updated the chages that occurred on 6/14? This is where potential customers go to see what they can get...

Stiull, this is so typical when you have a market where large portions of it have absolutely no choice. If I dropped TWC, the ONLY thing I can do with my nice HD display is play DVDs.

That isn't TWC fault. They called Geek squad to fix their web site but had to deal with rude CSR''s that didn't know anything. Then they tried Firedog and they gave them appointments three times but canceled when their previous job they were on ran late. But I think TWC finally got a company who gave them a four month window when it will be fix. So I think the changes will be there in October.:):p

River you do have a choice you just choose not to do it. You can stop watching TV altogether. :) Read books. :D I am actally laughing while writing this because I need my cable TV and wouldn't know what to do with my free time with out it. Even OTA isn't an option because the regular channels are just not enough anymore.

Care to be more specific (several OC-192 lines to the head end???)? BTW, we are 7Mb/512kb, far from 10Mb/768kb you mentioned. I KNOW that upstate they have been at 10Mb for quite a long while now. There are many other areas that get great speed from RR, unfortunately, NYC ain't one of them.

I HAVE noticed that the price of RR has gone up quite a bit if one doesn't have cable service... it used to be 10 bucks more, now it's 15 bucks more per month. Clearly that is targeted at potential satellite owners who may actually need something more than DSL's typical 3Mb/256kb speed.

Plus I'm seeing a new trick... one that is so intermittent that calling TWC would be useless. 4 times in the past 2 weeks, my "cable modem" has mysteriously gone off line. From the lights all I can glean is that it loses touch with the rest of the network. At least 2 (one time 4) total reboots so far seem to bring it back.

When I said 10/768, I was referring to RR Premium.

As far as upgrades -- Time Warner Cable used to only have transit from AOL Transit Data Network (AS1668) and Level(3) Communications (AS3356), and effectively had no peering. They've recently started opening up TWCNYC to peering, with 20Gbps of peering capacity, in addition to their existing capacity from Level(3) and ATDN.

No... Its free

Comcast (the owner of the network) is including the VS-GolfHD channel for no additional charge to all cable/sat providers that have both Vs and Golf on the basic tier

You see berk, I did not know that. I haven't read anything like that. I stand corrected. In general there is charges somewhere or somehow, but in this case, why don't we have it? Aren't we in one of those high bandwith areas they talk about? You know once we get it it I bet you it ends up on the HDXtra tier. Why? Because it is a "free" channel.

See Berk, now you have me asking the other side of the questions.

Their rating AREN'T poor...

I mean... they aren't "great" ratings - but they are among the top NHL draws (which is why they get so many National games)... and games they are involved in do the best nationally, compared to other teams

Yeah that is true for the national, but that is becasue you have millions of subplanted NYers all over the country that finally get to see their team live when they are on a national broadcast. Maybe that is where all the localn ratings went, everyone that has left NY is a Ranger fan and the local ratings have suffered.;)

You see berk, I did not know that. I haven't read anything like that. I stand corrected. In general there is charges somewhere or somehow, but in this case, why don't we have it? Aren't we in one of those high bandwith areas they talk about? You know once we get it it I bet you it ends up on the HDXtra tier. Why? Because it is a "free" channel.

See Berk, now you have me asking the other side of the questions.

Umm... obviously we're NOT in the high bandwidth area...

Umm... obviously we're NOT in the high bandwidth area...
you would think NYC the F@#$ing "media capital of the world" would have the best bandwith available. I still think we have it TWC just likes to give us crumbs and keeps the cookie jar out of our reach. One day that teasing will backfire on them.

you would think NYC the F@#$ing "media capital of the world" would have the best bandwith available. I still think we have it TWC just likes to give us crumbs and keeps the cookie jar out of our reach. One day that teasing will backfire on them.

How about having more old wiring to replace than any area in the world... thanks to the size of the city....

I get the oddest dropouts audio dropouts on HBO. They frequently occur when the end credits are rolling and there's a music track. Very odd.


Me too. I first noticed it during the fifth season of the Sopranos, and then was floored to discover it happened at exactly the same time during Deadwood. I didn't have audio dropouts elsewhere on these two shows or otherwise. What could cause this?

Me too. I first noticed it during the fifth season of the Sopranos, and then was floored to discover it happened at exactly the same time during Deadwood. I didn't have audio dropouts elsewhere on these two shows or otherwise. What could cause this?

I believe that this is a national issue. I have seen postings about this issue in non-TWC/NYC related topic threads.

How about having more old wiring to replace than any area in the world... thanks to the size of the city....

The problem has nothing to do with wiring. TWC's wiring in NYC is the same Hybrid fibre-coaxial system as in any other market. The problem has more to do with the fact that we have more analog channels than any other market, and in any given analog channel, you can fit 20 Digital, or 3 HD, or 42Mbit of Internet traffic.

It is unfortunately a complicated problem to solve as you can't just move channels from analog to digital, and when you consider that those analog international channels are the most profitable premium channels they offer, they have to keep offering them. Most of the subscribers of these channels DO NOT WANT digital cable boxes.

...those analog international channels are the most profitable premium channels they offer, they..
Can you post a link to verify this?

The problem has nothing to do with wiring. TWC's wiring in NYC is the same Hybrid fibre-coaxial system as in any other market. The problem has more to do with the fact that we have more analog channels than any other market, and in any given analog channel, you can fit 20 Digital, or 3 HD, or 42Mbit of Internet traffic.

It is unfortunately a complicated problem to solve as you can't just move channels from analog to digital, and when you consider that those analog international channels are the most profitable premium channels they offer, they have to keep offering them. Most of the subscribers of these channels DO NOT WANT digital cable boxes.

That wasn't exactly my point.....
(I was attempting to respond to the previous posters "idea" that NYC should have the best bandwidth because its NYC)
But its irrelevant now anyways.

I know we're overloaded with analog channels.

you would think NYC the F@#$ing "media capital of the world" would have the best bandwith available. I still think we have it TWC just likes to give us crumbs and keeps the cookie jar out of our reach. One day that teasing will backfire on them.

Unfortunately NYC is pretty far behind the times in terms of just about all technology. The subways don't have any kind of digital displays indicating when the next train is scheduled to arrive. The vast majority of parking meters still only take change, instead of prepaid cards...i could go on and on.

I don't know who is at fault, but the YES HD feed has now been out for two days. Watching the SD feed is just horrible. Someone needs to fix the feed.

I don't know who is at fault, but the YES HD feed has now been out for two days. Watching the SD feed is just horrible. Someone needs to fix the feed.
The proper thing to do to get some action on this would be to put in a service call to TWC and see how they respond. Much more likely to get action on your problem than posting here.

I don't know who is at fault, but the YES HD feed has now been out for two days. Watching the SD feed is just horrible. Someone needs to fix the feed.As I posted earlier today, there was a fire at the YES headquarters.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-sa-fire6sep11,0,5230241.story?coll=stam-news-local-headlines


There is no YES HD anywhere- TW, Direct TV etc.

There is no information regarding when it will be back on again. As I’m writing this, Michael Kaye is talking about it, or mocking the situation :rolleyes:is more like it.

Call YES for more information. TW probably doesn’t even know it’s not on in HD.

Here is another story posted on Fred's Hot off The Press thread...

Several HDTV Nets Remain Down Following Fire
A&E, History, YES and NFL Network Knocked Out

By Linda Moss -- Multichannel News, 9/11/2007 1:41:00 PM

Two HDTV networks were back on the air, but two others remained down Tuesday in the wake of a fire at a Stamford, Conn., building that houses facilities for several programmers and a company that does uplinking for them.
A&E Network HD, The History Channel HD, YES Network HD and NFL Network HD were initially knocked out of service following an early morning fire Monday at 250 Harbor Drive in Stamford.
But by Tuesday afternoon, A&E Television Networks was upconverting its standard-definition signal to HD as a temporary measure so it could resume delivering HD feeds for A&E Network HD and History Channel HD, according to spokesman Lynn Gardner.
However, the HD feeds of both YES Network and NFL Network were still down Tuesday afternoon. NFL Network expected its HD network to be black until Wednesday evening, according to spokesman Seth Palansky.
As for YES Network’s HD signal, spokesman Eric Handler said, “We’re looking to get it up and running as soon as possible.”
The building with the fire housed facilities for Ascent Media Group, which uplinks the HDTV feeds of the four networks. Officials for Ascent couldn’t be reached for comment.
YES Network and AETN also have offices in the Stamford building, which was still without electrical power Tuesday.
The fire took place in a building at the same complex as corporate headquarters for Time Warner Cable, which is located at 290 Harbor Drive in Stamford.
Both YES Network’s and NFL Network’s standard definition networks were off the air very briefly Monday morning as a result of the fire, according to Handler and Palansky, but both SD signals were back up quickly Monday.
The regional sports network and NFL Network was working Tuesday to restore their HDTV signals.
YES Network is headquartered in Manhattan, but has some facilities, including a HDTV studio and control room, in the Stamford building, according to Handler.


http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA6477667

Oh man, NFL Network is down. That sucks! ;)

Wow, well that's bad. The reason I posted here was to see if anyone else noticed before I went off to contact TWC or YES. It's nice to know what happen and I'll give them time before contacting.

How ironic is it that History-HD & NFL Network-HD comes from the same complex as TWC headquaters?

How about having more old wiring to replace than any area in the world... thanks to the size of the city....
I don't know about that old wiring being a cause. Didn't TWC spend 5 years upgrading them?

:)Unfortunately NYC is pretty far behind the times in terms of just about all technology. The subways don't have any kind of digital displays indicating when the next train is scheduled to arrive. The vast majority of parking meters still only take change, instead of prepaid cards...i could go on and on.
sorry I have to step in on this one, while the entire train system is not digital it is working to be one, I didn't stay months in those tunnels for nothing!:)There are lines that are digital, the problem with the NYC subway is the 24 system we run here that can't be closed. Just like TWC big changes are coming but it is a slow process.

I don't know about that old wiring being a cause. Didn't TWC spend 5 years upgrading them?

Its not....

Well.. not exactly...

We still have plenty of very old buildings throughout the city with old wiring.... which is part of the reason why many people still have analog service...

That was sorta where i was trying to go with my point.....

…Talking about bandwidth and its future, :rolleyes: some here might find this article interesting, even if it borders on the peripherals of this thread. ;)

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070912-fcc-to-cable-you-must-support-analog-tvs-until-2012.html

As I posted earlier today, there was a fire at the YES headquarters.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-sa-fire6sep11,0,5230241.story?coll=stam-news-local-headlines

Call YES for more information. TW probably doesn’t even know it’s not on in HD.

I called YES Network and they said the HD channel should be restored by Friday, 9/14.

I called YES Network and they said the HD channel should be restored by Friday, 9/14.Thanks for the info. I was hoping to see tonight’s game in HD but I guess that’s not happening. :mad:

I read somewhere today that YES might do the “FOX wide screen” thing :rolleyes:until this is all resolved.

…Talking about bandwidth and its future, :rolleyes: some here might find this article interesting, even if it borders on the peripherals of this thread. ;)

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070912-fcc-to-cable-you-must-support-analog-tvs-until-2012.html
I strongly suspect TWC (and cable companies across the country) will opt to force digital cable boxes on all of their subscribers.

Yes I know I'm channeling Captain Obvious. ;)

YesHD is back on but when I left home it was having sound distortions.

I strongly suspect TWC (and cable companies across the country) will opt to force digital cable boxes on all of their subscribers.

Yes I know I'm channeling Captain Obvious. ;)

I don't think they force them on us. We have the choice, one is to not "purcahse" cable we could just decide to watch OTA TV which has no charge but an attenna and box free. Second is to buy a TV with a cable card access, of course this is a new feature, but it is still on about 35% of TV's released. Plus with the newer TV's with Qam tuners you can plug the main line right into the TV itself. So their are options for ways to eliminate one or 2 boxes from some households, but there might always be one box in the hosehold for the interactive stuff if you like that.

…Talking about bandwidth and its future, :rolleyes: some here might find this article interesting, even if it borders on the peripherals of this thread. ;)

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070912-fcc-to-cable-you-must-support-analog-tvs-until-2012.html
My problem with that article is this. If a cable system, like TWC, already has a digital system in place and you have to use a digital STB to watch the service. Why would they have to "waste" bandwith running analog for an extra 3 years? TWC and other companies are in the process of making sure they give very good offers to those people that still only have the analog boxes. Are there area in this city that TWC allows a direct connection to the TV's without boxes? If not, then why would they have to keep analog on longer?

River you do have a choice you just choose not to do it. You can stop watching TV altogether. :) Read books. :D I am actally laughing while writing this because I need my cable TV and wouldn't know what to do with my free time with out it. Even OTA isn't an option because the regular channels are just not enough anymore.

Actually, more than once I have stated that my "choice" is to only watch DVDs. Remember OTA mostly works outside of Manhattan, but is simply not an option from my location. AND think about IP connectivity... DSL is far slower up and down, and that very much IS an issue for me as it's essentially a requirement for the work I do.

PLUS, "reading a book" also means the investment I made in the HD display is wasted...

The problem has nothing to do with wiring. TWC's wiring in NYC is the same Hybrid fibre-coaxial system as in any other market. The problem has more to do with the fact that we have more analog channels than any other market, and in any given analog channel, you can fit 20 Digital, or 3 HD, or 42Mbit of Internet traffic.

It is unfortunately a complicated problem to solve as you can't just move channels from analog to digital, and when you consider that those analog international channels are the most profitable premium channels they offer, they have to keep offering them. Most of the subscribers of these channels DO NOT WANT digital cable boxes.

Uh, AFAIK to get those channels one MUST have a STB. So the issue is that the customer MUST swap boxes at no cost to them. Not anything I'd call any kind of imposition at all. The fact is that TWC knew all about this 5-6 years ago, but chose to not even make ANY effort to get those boxes swapped. So as far as I'm concerned, this is 100% a bullshit excuse.

We know they are shutting of 4 premium analog channels this weekend. We know that represents 10-12 HD channels. We KNOW SI has 6 more HD channels we don't have (while being able to pay less for more). Wanna start a pool to see when the rest of us have those 6 HD channels available to us?

Unfortunately NYC is pretty far behind the times in terms of just about all technology. The subways don't have any kind of digital displays indicating when the next train is scheduled to arrive. The vast majority of parking meters still only take change, instead of prepaid cards...i could go on and on.

I don't think you can compare the government and a mega-rich private company like TWC.

I don't know who is at fault, but the YES HD feed has now been out for two days. Watching the SD feed is just horrible. Someone needs to fix the feed.

The real pisser is that I read in more than one place that YES has taken the SD feed, run it through professional studio scalers and is running that on their HD channels. All WE get is a blank gray screen, not even a frakking text graphic explaining what is up.

Nothing to do with TWC... this is 100% on YES. Also means that their "claim" they WOULD have 100% of Yankee games in HD was a lie. They COULD have routed the HD signal coming from Toronto elsewhere. They COULD have done the upscale thing...hell it could have at least been widescreen upconverted SD. But it WAS a blank gray screen without even the courtesy of a graphic.

ESPECIALLY unforgivable during an actual pennant race the team is in (imagine if they sweep the weekend series from the Sawx?). Oh and think about this one... ESPN HD could be carrying the games IN HD and because of YES' blackout rules, we'd be shut out of seeing the Boston series in HD!

:)
sorry I have to step in on this one, while the entire train system is not digital it is working to be one, I didn't stay months in those tunnels for nothing!:)There are lines that are digital, the problem with the NYC subway is the 24 system we run here that can't be closed. Just like TWC big changes are coming but it is a slow process.

Nonsense... I work NOT 9-5, M-F and lemme tell you, lots of stuff is shut down and non-functional outside of standard rush hour.

Including this one... because they have to do track work, the express trains run on the local tracks and the locals run on the express tracks of certain periods (1, 2, 3 lines). Huh??

Not that big a deal as most express stops are on the same platform EXCEPT 34th street. Oh, and the announcement for that goodie was NOT on their service advisories for the 1 line. AND no signage at the station... I sat through three 2's and 3's waiting for the local only to see it roll onto the express train platform... I'd have to run for 1/2 the platform, cross under both sets of tracks and run back up. In 100 degree heat I might add.

I tried, I died, and now I'm writing from heaven!

...All WE get is a blank gray screen, not even a frakking text graphic explaining what is up.

Nothing to do with TWC... this is 100% on YES. Also means that their "claim" they WOULD have 100% of Yankee games in HD was a lie. They COULD have routed the HD signal coming from Toronto elsewhere. They COULD have done the upscale thing...hell it could have at least been widescreen upconverted SD. But it WAS a blank gray screen without even the courtesy of a graphicYou’re absolutely right!--- Their lack of information on the YES website or telecasts addressing the fire or its consequences. It wasn’t until last night that the arrogant second rate announcer Michael Kaye gave it a sarcastic mention. That is what really pisses me off. YES is one of the most profitable networks and they don’t inform their audience of the situation.

…Talking about bandwidth and its future, :rolleyes: some here might find this article interesting, even if it borders on the peripherals of this thread. ;)

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070912-fcc-to-cable-you-must-support-analog-tvs-until-2012.html

They seem to say this only applies to the local broadcast stations... so exactly how many analogs will they HAVE to carry? In some markets this may mean 2-3 at most. Here I count 8. The actual issue is with the 60 some odd other ones.

Actually, more than once I have stated that my "choice" is to only watch DVDs. Remember OTA mostly works outside of Manhattan, but is simply not an option from my location. AND think about IP connectivity... DSL is far slower up and down, and that very much IS an issue for me as it's essentially a requirement for the work I do.

PLUS, "reading a book" also means the investment I made in the HD display is wasted...

Yes you are right, I forgot about your DVD ways. But let me ask you something. What about back in the days, pre-cable? I did live in an apartment complex back then (pre-teen)and I recalled a general antenna on the roof of the big buildings and the wiring sent to each tenament in the "living room" area where the TV could go so people could connect. Do you not have this option anymore or because of cable all these tenaments have forgoten about that antenna on the roof. I lived in brooklyn back then but remember the same thing by family friends in Manhattan

As for books, anytime I mention books I laugh so that isn't an option for me either. You don't get these TV's because you are a book reader.

I stumbled on this “news breaking” :rolleyes:survey…

http://cnedit.sv.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20070909&Kategori=FREE&Lopenr=70908006&Ref=AR

The survey of 603 residents across the five boroughs found that 51% of cable TV subscribers would like to switch to another provider if they could choose between two or more providers. Lower prices would tempt most customers to make a change, followed by greater choices of programming and packages. Well duhhhh

Nonsense... I work NOT 9-5, M-F and lemme tell you, lots of stuff is shut down and non-functional outside of standard rush hour.

Including this one... because they have to do track work, the express trains run on the local tracks and the locals run on the express tracks of certain periods (1, 2, 3 lines). Huh??

Not that big a deal as most express stops are on the same platform EXCEPT 34th street. Oh, and the announcement for that goodie was NOT on their service advisories for the 1 line. AND no signage at the station... I sat through three 2's and 3's waiting for the local only to see it roll onto the express train platform... I'd have to run for 1/2 the platform, cross under both sets of tracks and run back up. In 100 degree heat I might add.

I tried, I died, and now I'm writing from heaven!
You missed read me, actually let me add one word.

the problem with the NYC subway is the 24 system we run here that can't be closed entirely.

If we were able to close the enitire system a state of the art digital running system would have been in place already, but because of this and the fact that it has so many train lines, repair and up-keep is endless and it does take away money that would be spent on renovations. You are actually on lines that I haven't worked that much on but I was involed in the Ferry, 34th street and Whitehall Stations reconstructions for the 1 and 9. I know those closures gave you some nice headaches.The signage is the public's problem. The signs are posted 2 weeks in advance of all work and ripped down endlessly, you and Joe Public gets screwed by the time you are ready to use the train because the signs are gone. Then you have to ask mr rude token person and they are sometimes no help or there is none to ask at all because of the modernation(Metro card only stations) that people want in the first place.

You’re absolutely right!--- Their lack of information on the YES website or telecasts addressing the fire or its consequences. It wasn’t until last night that the arrogant second rate announcer Michael Kaye gave it a sarcastic mention. That is what really pisses me off. YES is one of the most profitable networks and they don’t inform their audience of the situation.
because the HD networks isn't their money maker. The channel is. They know we would switch to the SD if we REALLY wanted to watch the Yankees. From what I am reading on this thread most of us did. Money not LOST, the still had the viewers that they expected. What did you expect? a banner on the bottom of the screen apologizing and offering credits? :);):p

I stumbled on this “news breaking” :rolleyes:survey…

http://cnedit.sv.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20070909&Kategori=FREE&Lopenr=70908006&Ref=AR

The survey of 603 residents across the five boroughs found that 51% of cable TV subscribers would like to switch to another provider if they could choose between two or more providers. Lower prices would tempt most customers to make a change, followed by greater choices of programming and packages. Well duhhhh
I am not surprised by that survey. Judging by this threead I think that survey has a low percentage. Unlike myself there are many people that are just frustrated with TWC so they would change regardless of cost.

You guys aren't going to like this - but YESHD is back tonight (I'm watching on Cablevision right now)

I already heard its not on TWC for some reason

You guys aren't going to like this - but YESHD is back tonightWhy is that? So we can’t bitch and moan anymore?:p

No, it is on TW too.

It certainly would not be on CV without being on TW—since it was a YES situation and not a TW one.

Why is that? So we can’t bitch and moan anymore?:p

No, it is on TW too.

It certainly would not be on CV without being on TW—since it was a YES situation and not a TW one.

I'm aware where the problem was...

But this guy said it wasn't working...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11615530#post11615530

I'm aware where the problem was...

But this guy said it wasn't working...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11615530#post11615530Yeah, I know you're aware-- I was surprisied you would've thought it would be on there and not here :cool:... but I would've questioned that fellow. Perhaps he should turn on his tv.:rolleyes::p
Funny, that was his first post.

I got a Scientific Atlantic 8300HDC box, I asked if the firewire port was activated, the rep said no. I said it may be mandatory to activate as set by the FCC to which she said it's not required by the FCC.

Is there any FCC ruling that mandates cable companies to activate the firewire ports? I want to make sure before calling them again.

Yeah, I know you're aware-- I was surprisied you would've thought it would be on there and not here :cool:... but I would've questioned that fellow. Perhaps he should turn on his tv.:rolleyes::p
Funny, that was his first post.


Its TWC we're talking about.... didn't think I needed to question it...

:D You got a point there.:cool:

Is there any FCC ruling that mandates cable companies to activate the firewire ports? I want to make sure before calling them again.
As far as I know, there is a rule that they must provide a firewire equipped cable box on demand, but TWC only offers a non-dvr stb (the 3250hd last I checked).

Any word about the possibility of the ALDS and NLDS being in HD on TBS?

Or am I a hopeless dreamer.

Any word about the possibility of the ALDS and NLDS being in HD on TBS?

Or am I a hopeless dreamer.

you're asking the wrong question.

Yes - all games will be in HD

You want to know if we'll be getting TBS-HD by then.... we don't know... yet...

Is anyone having problems on the UWS with ch 1-100?

I got a Scientific Atlantic 8300HDC box, I asked if the firewire port was activated, the rep said no. I said it may be mandatory to activate as set by the FCC to which she said it's not required by the FCC.

Is there any FCC ruling that mandates cable companies to activate the firewire ports? I want to make sure before calling them again.

Yes, there is an FCC rule. Do a search for "fcc-03-225" in Google. Specifically, you want page 50, section 4 of the pdf.

There was a lot of discussion on this board awhile back about this. Among the comments, as I recall, was a statement that TW required a tech visit to verify that you actually had a legitimate need for a firewire connection. I don't know what the current status is though.

I can verify that the 8300HDC that I got does not have a functional firewire port. Not really surprising though, since I didn't request one when I got it (see message #12075) because I decided that would be a battle best fought in the future.

If you decide to push TW on the issue, please let us know how it goes.

Rob

My HD cable box just up and died. One second I was watching Men in Black on TNT HD, the next second my box was rebooting. Over and over and over. Now the thing won't even turn on. The box was just swapped in today.

I'm just about at my wits' end with Time Warner. I've been on the phone with them near-constantly for the past week and a half, trying to determine why I can't access A&E HD, FSNY HD, Food HD and HGTV HD. Customer service wants to send tech out, and the techs always blame customer service. This has happened 4 times now. They've rerun cables to solve signal level issues, and today they replaced the box.

Now the box they replaced today is dead.

Add to that the incessant glitching on ESPN2 HD, marring my enjoyment of the FIFA Womens World Cup games, and I'm seriously contemplating just dropping TWC altogether and waiting for FiOS TV to come around. :mad:

Document all of your problems with the CSRs and the Tech visits and file this.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doitt/html/consumer/consumer_cable_service_form.shtml

Document all of your problems with the CSRs and the Tech visits and file this.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doitt/html/consumer/consumer_cable_service_form.shtml... to add...
By filing...You will get a phone call from someone that will attempt to put out your fire. :cool:

So today is the big day...the 4 premiums should be dropping from the analog lineup. Start the timer on the wait for our new HD channels. Any chance we see some action next week?

Does any one know what the new cable lineup is??

Does any one know what the new cable lineup is??

exactly what are you talking about?

exactly what are you talking about?

Channel lineup change like Sci Fi and History channel changing channel numbers. They are some more but i cant remember what they are :(

Channel lineup change like Sci Fi and History channel changing channel numbers. They are some more but i cant remember what they are :(

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11537549#post11537549

Network: Old # - New #
FBN - xx - 43
MSNBC - 43 - 14
ABCFam - 14 - 38
Bravo - 38 - 18
Disc - 18 - 66 (next to National Geographic... TMC = 66 until 9/15)
FoxNews- 46 - 44
SciFi - 44 - 17
Hist - 17 - 40
USA - 40 - 16
A&E - 16 - 46

hi, my first post here... hope i got the right forum.

i have timewarner cabletv and internet pkg. 'doubleplay' i guess RR + DTV value pkg.
tv is standard def tube, and Scientific atlanta 3250 for the past few years.

I'm getting a 1080P LCD, am I suppsed to return this 3250 cable box?

which one should I ask them to provide? I just want to be informed before I talk to them if there's an ideal box that i can ask for...

no additional charges since i'm already DTV pkg, correct? Thx in advance.

hi, my first post here... hope i got the right forum.

i have timewarner cabletv and internet pkg. 'doubleplay' i guess RR + DTV value pkg.
tv is standard def tube, and Scientific atlanta 3250 for the past few years.

I'm getting a 1080P LCD, am I suppsed to return this 3250 cable box?

which one should I ask them to provide? I just want to be informed before I talk to them if there's an ideal box that i can ask for...

no additional charges since i'm already DTV pkg, correct? Thx in advance.
Is it a SciAtl 3250 or 3250HD?

If it's an Explorer 3250, then you'll need to get it changed. Your local TWCNYC office will swap it for free, no questions asked.

The standard HD box is the Explorer 3250HD or 3250HDC. Both are functionally identical, but the HDC is newer and uses CableCARD. In general, it really doesn't matter which of these you get.

For HD DVR service, you might get the Explorer 8300HD or 8300HDC. Again, both are functionally identical, but the HDC is newer and uses CableCARD. There is also the Samsung H3050. If possible, you want to try and get the 8300HD, if only to stave off Navigator (TWC's new guide software) for as long as possible. There will be an additional monthly charge for DVR service, but getting the box will be free.

Is it a SciAtl 3250 or 3250HD?

If it's an Explorer 3250, then you'll need to get it changed. Your local TWCNYC office will swap it for free, no questions asked.



Well, I was at the 23rd Street TWC office on Friday and I heard all HD boxes are in backorder for at least a month but they're offering an HD-DVR as a replacement and waived the fees until they get stock, I also heard technicians have HD boxes available in their trucks but that it'll cost you a service call.

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11537549#post11537549

Network: Old # - New #
FBN - xx - 43
MSNBC - 43 - 14
ABCFam - 14 - 38
Bravo - 38 - 18
Disc - 18 - 66 (next to National Geographic... TMC = 66 until 9/15)
FoxNews- 46 - 44
SciFi - 44 - 17
Hist - 17 - 40
USA - 40 - 16
A&E - 16 - 46 Thank you
Angel:cool:

Well, I was at the 23rd Street TWC office on Friday and I heard all HD boxes are in backorder for at least a month but they're offering an HD-DVR as a replacement and waived the fees until they get stock, I also heard technicians have HD boxes available in their trucks but that it'll cost you a service call.

At the Brooklyn office on Saturday they had a bunch of signs up saying they had no regular HD boxes, but for those who were brave enough to weather the 1hr line, they actually *did* have them. Someone suggested they take the signs down, but they didn't want to do that (could not hear their part of the conversation).

I was there to get a 2nd HD-DVR - hoping to get an 8300HD rather than an 8300HDC... no such luck. Communicating with the CSR through two inches of bulletproof plexiglass was near impossible, and what I ended up with was the HDC... but I got the impression there definitely was an alternative DVR to be had. I saw bunch of people walking our of there with sleek looking Samsung box.... is there a new Samsung DVR out there? Been wondering all weekend if I blew it and missed out on a new Samsung box?

The HDC and the Mystro are (so far) OK. Annoying not to be able to find functions where I'm used finding them, but the basics work OK.

Am on the other hand about to throw the new UR5U-8800L-TWY remote out the window... looks slick and but does not sit well in the hand, and key buttons have been moved, so I constantly have to look at the damn thing. The most prominent easily found button is a big 'ON Demand' button that brings you to Channel 1000. Useless. Does have a backlight button that my 7-month old loves. But I sure miss my old remote.

Wonderful.....all HD channels are freezing!! This is getting rediculous. My internet has also been dropping out every 30min. HORRIBLE!!!

What's your location?

Wonderful.....all HD channels are freezing!! This is getting rediculous. My internet has also been dropping out every 30min. HORRIBLE!!!

You may want to make a phone call...

If something was going on... you'd see more people talking about it here.

Does anyone know why Encore Wam (ch. 87) is separate from the other Starz/Encore channels in the 200s? Is it a stand alone basic channel that everyone gets? It seems to show commercial-free movies the few times I've surfed past it, so is it available even if you don't get Starz?

What's up with some of the responses people give on these boards? Not everyone is necessarily a tech geek. I thought that was the point of boards like this, trying to provide info to people. A few posts ago, Angel 35 asked what the new lineup was going to be and Berk32 responded “Exactly what are you talking about?” It seemed a sort of self-explanatory question (the new MSNBC, Bravo, FBN etc. channel locations) and in fact Berk32 then answered with the new line-up just a few posts later. But why the snottiness to begin with? How about just ignoring a question if you don't feel it's up to your level? I don't get that attitude.

Is there a way to set up the forum so posts go in reverse chronological order? Any time I log on it always starts at the first page and I have to click to the last page (not a big deal, obviously, but it would be easier to find the last post that I haven't read if it would go directly to the last page first.)

Does anyone know why Encore Wam (ch. 87) is separate from the other Starz/Encore channels in the 200s? Is it a stand alone basic channel that everyone gets? It seems to show commercial-free movies the few times I've surfed past it, so is it available even if you don't get Starz?

What's up with some of the responses people give on these boards? Not everyone is necessarily a tech geek. I thought that was the point of boards like this, trying to provide info to people. A few posts ago, Angel 35 asked what the new lineup was going to be and Berk32 responded “Exactly what are you talking about?” It seemed a sort of self-explanatory question (the new MSNBC, Bravo, FBN etc. channel locations) and in fact Berk32 then answered with the new line-up just a few posts later. But why the snottiness to begin with? How about just ignoring a question if you don't feel it's up to your level? I don't get that attitude.

Is there a way to set up the forum so posts go in reverse chronological order? Any time I log on it always starts at the first page and I have to click to the last page (not a big deal, obviously, but it would be easier to find the last post that I haven't read if it would go directly to the last page first.)
I think Encore WAM used to be its own separate premium channel, back in the analog days, and they never moved it out of the analog premium channel block.

Also, there is a "View First Unread" link just underneath the "Post Reply" button near the top left corner of the thread page. As you might expect, clicking it will zip you right to the first post you haven't read yet.

Wam was a special Teen only station that was able to show recent movies uncut. It was included in the DTV pack for no extra chanrge, Encore bought the channel but for some reason TWC never shut it down or gave it as a premium only station(Good for us) It does have some decent first run movies for a channel that we all get for the cost of basic. Maybe we should stop talking abut it because we don't want TWC to realize it's mistake if it is a mistake at all. Maybe the encore channel decided since it was included in our basic package they just left it that way until their new contract is up.

What's up with some of the responses people give on these boards? Not everyone is necessarily a tech geek. I thought that was the point of boards like this, trying to provide info to people. A few posts ago, Angel 35 asked what the new lineup was going to be and Berk32 responded “Exactly what are you talking about?” It seemed a sort of self-explanatory question (the new MSNBC, Bravo, FBN etc. channel locations) and in fact Berk32 then answered with the new line-up just a few posts later. But why the snottiness to begin with? How about just ignoring a question if you don't feel it's up to your level? I don't get that attitude.


First off I don't know why berk32 asnswered rudely, if he even did. If he did, maybe he had a reason, but he is one of the knowledgable people when it comes to this thread. Him unndunn, riversideguy, ll3d, and myself (if I missed someone I am sorry)try to give the best informative responses we can. Sure some times they might come out to be sarcastic and maybe rude, but someone else might back the other on up with the proper response that a person seeks. We are not all "tech geeks" here as you put it. We are just a bunch of people that what the best out of what TWC can give us. At times, you may see fights and rudeness, but the general feeling at this thread is comparrison for their fellow TWC viewers and the main outcry of "where the hell is my extra hHD Channels?"

As for boards in general, these sites are suppose to help people. I believe that with all my heart and as anyone can attest I try my best to give the best advice I possibly can. However, you have to becareful which thread you connect to. The internet has given access to the complainers to complain and the angry to get angrier. There are very angry people on the net that come to these threads just to vent. If they don't like you views or opinion they will trash you which I don't like at all. All in all, here at AVS I have found the hatred is controlled, the arguements are minimal and the goal of us all is to get the best HD experience out of the equipment that we have.

I saw an ad over the weekend for HD Movies on Demand on Time Warner Cable. I live in Manhattan...

I haven't seen anything on this forum mentioning this additional channel. Does anyone know when it will be added?

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11537549#post11537549

Network: Old # - New #
FBN - xx - 43
MSNBC - 43 - 14
ABCFam - 14 - 38
Bravo - 38 - 18
Disc - 18 - 66 (next to National Geographic... TMC = 66 until 9/15)
FoxNews- 46 - 44
SciFi - 44 - 17
Hist - 17 - 40
USA - 40 - 16
A&E - 16 - 46
This is the first time I am seeing these changes and I pay the cable bill. Was it mentioned there? I don't read inserts, if it was mentioed on there. I am seeing why they are making some changes. but it might be a start to a bigger war to come. Is NBC Universal stronger than we thought? All 5 of their networks within the first 20. You know Discovery networks is not sitting quietly with these moves. Look for them to be brought back down in future months.

I saw an ad over the weekend for HD Movies on Demand on Time Warner Cable. I live in Manhattan...

I haven't seen anything on this forum mentioning this additional channel. Does anyone know when it will be added?

Advertising can be deceptive. especially when it comes to Cable, SAT or even FIOS. You need to read those small lines or listen for the disclaimer. All ads, for these companies always claim "not available in some areas." Unfortunately that area includes us when it cmes to HD movies on demand. Trust me you would read something in this thread way before it would be available to us NYer's.
That ad might have been just aired on a national broadcast or the local TWC system used a generic commercial to save money.

What's up with some of the responses people give on these boards? Not everyone is necessarily a tech geek. I thought that was the point of boards like this, trying to provide info to people. A few posts ago, Angel 35 asked what the new lineup was going to be and Berk32 responded “Exactly what are you talking about?” It seemed a sort of self-explanatory question (the new MSNBC, Bravo, FBN etc. channel locations) and in fact Berk32 then answered with the new line-up just a few posts later. But why the snottiness to begin with? How about just ignoring a question if you don't feel it's up to your level? I don't get that attitude.

Is there a way to set up the forum so posts go in reverse chronological order? Any time I log on it always starts at the first page and I have to click to the last page (not a big deal, obviously, but it would be easier to find the last post that I haven't read if it would go directly to the last page first.)Well... you see… we rotate tech managers here, so it all depends on who’s manning the “phones” when you “call” in. And bear in mind, the pay hasn’t gone up for quite some time so we tend to get grumpy... but be assured—they do dock us each and every time someone like you points it out…. :rolleyes::eek::p How’s that for snotty? Welcome to the thread.:)


By the way, now that you have posted in the thread you are automatically “subscribed” to it. You will get e mail notification, either instant, weekly, etc., .depending on how you requested. When you click on the notification, you will see the current page not the first page.:cool:

Oh... and you're now in charge. ;)

Well... you see… we rotate tech managers here, so it all depends on who’s manning the “phones” when you “call” in. And bear in mind, the pay hasn’t gone up for quite some time so we tend to get grumpy... but be assured—they do dock us each and every time someone like you points it out…. :rolleyes::eek::p How’s that for snotty? Welcome to the thread.:)

Oh... and you're now in charge. ;)

You see Larry, Now you did it. I was giving you some props and showing that we are good people. Now you scared another one away!!!!!:);):p They better not dock me this week because I was hoping for at least Pizza this week for lunch. Last week's dock had me doing PB&J all week. :D

. Last week's dock had me doing PB&J all week. :D
:D:D

Advertising can be deceptive. especially when it comes to Cable, SAT or even FIOS. You need to read those small lines or listen for the disclaimer. All ads, for these companies always claim "not available in some areas." Unfortunately that area includes us when it cmes to HD movies on demand. Trust me you would read something in this thread way before it would be available to us NYer's.
That ad might have been just aired on a national broadcast or the local TWC system used a generic commercial to save money.

I saw the ad while accessing On Demand content, and I've never seen the ad for HD Movies before... and I'm on On Demand, a lot. Additionally, there was no disclaimer attached.

So, I'm just curious if TWC will be adding HD Movies On Demand, once the analog premium channels are eliminated (they were still active on my system as of midnight last night), and as a part of the channel adjustment coming in October?

I saw the ad while accessing On Demand content, and I've never seen the ad for HD Movies before... and I'm on On Demand, a lot. Additionally, there was no disclaimer attached.

So, I'm just curious if TWC will be adding HD Movies On Demand, once the analog premium channels are eliminated (they were still active on my system as of midnight last night), and as a part of the channel adjustment coming in October?
Once Analog is eliminated the whole system we have will have more space then HD channels available. But that is a big "when" we are talking about. If you read the post a few days back th FCC has made law that the analog needs to stay on until 2012. Will that effect us, YES if they do keep analog going, but once all their subscribers are subscribed to DTV then the shut off can begin. IMO that commercial you saw was the generic feed made for TWC's on-demand service.
I will keep my hands crossed that we do get it in October, but I don't think On-demandHD is one of the first priorities on the HD front.

Once Analog is eliminated the whole system we have will have more space then HD channels available. But that is a big "when" we are talking about. If you read the post a few days back th FCC has made law that the analog needs to stay on until 2012. Will that effect us, YES if they do keep analog going, but once all their subscribers are subscribed to DTV then the shut off can begin. IMO that commercial you saw was the generic feed made for TWC's on-demand service.
I will keep my hands crossed that we do get it in October, but I don't think On-demandHD is one of the first priorities on the HD front.

The FCC decision on analog access only covers local stations... and even then cable operators can eliminate analog channels provided all subscibers can receive a digital signal.

As for your opinion that HD Movies On Demand is not a priority, I wonder... which is a better revenue generator... HD Movies or one or two linear HD channels? I guess it depends on the carriage agreement.

As for me, I'd buy a lot more movies On Demand, if I could watch them in HD...

What's up with some of the responses people give on these boards? Not everyone is necessarily a tech geek. I thought that was the point of boards like this, trying to provide info to people. A few posts ago, Angel 35 asked what the new lineup was going to be and Berk32 responded “Exactly what are you talking about?” It seemed a sort of self-explanatory question (the new MSNBC, Bravo, FBN etc. channel locations) and in fact Berk32 then answered with the new line-up just a few posts later. But why the snottiness to begin with? How about just ignoring a question if you don't feel it's up to your level? I don't get that attitude.

Actually.... it was an EXTREMELY vague question....
I had no way of assuming what he was asking at all... (it could've been about potential HD changes (since thats truly the purpose of this thread)

I only asked to to explain what he meant... and he did... no problems...

Sorry if you felt there was any hidden meaning in asking him to explain... because there wasn't.
I don't think he felt there was.

This is the first time I am seeing these changes and I pay the cable bill. Was it mentioned there? I don't read inserts, if it was mentioed on there. I am seeing why they are making some changes. but it might be a start to a bigger war to come. Is NBC Universal stronger than we thought? All 5 of their networks within the first 20. You know Discovery networks is not sitting quietly with these moves. Look for them to be brought back down in future months.

The changes have not been "announced" by TWC to us yet... (aren't they great at giving us info?)

This all came out in a few online articles I've seen recently (so i made the chart)

NBC is paying for the prime positioning of their channels - according to one article.

The FCC decision on analog access only covers local stations... and even then cable operators can eliminate analog channels provided all subscibers can receive a digital signal.

As for your opinion that HD Movies On Demand is not a priority, I wonder... which is a better revenue generator... HD Movies or one or two linear HD channels? I guess it depends on the carriage agreement.

As for me, I'd buy a lot more movies On Demand, if I could watch them in HD...

Local stations on cable, so are whole new age system would get delayed if they don't get to shut it down. Lets hope it doesn't get to that. I personally am routing for the cablee co's that they are able to convince all their current subscribers to make the change way before late 2008 so we can total shut down before then.

You said it best, "I guess it depends on the carriage agreement." That will determine which would be the better deal for them. I do not make the on-demand purchases you do, but I do watch a lot of TV which is mostly in the HD area of viewing so TWC will take that into account when they decide what is best addition.
Like I said, I am keeping my fingers crossed, because there are changes coming it is just, WHEN?

when are these channel changes going into effect?

when are these channel changes going into effect?

10/15

(but we're all hoping there are a bunch of changes/addition before then... of the HD variety....)

TWC has the rights to Fox Buisness Network-HD.
TWC will be adding The History Channel HD on 10/15/07 in San Antonio.

I can sure see one of these channels added in S.I. next month.
How about you?

http://www.timewarnercable.com/PiedmontTriad/programming/hdmod.html

Why is Piedmont so special ??? :mad:

http://www.timewarnercable.com/PiedmontTriad/programming/hdmod.html
did you see the offerings? That is such a waste of bandwith. Now I am positive that I want other HD channels before HD on-demand. That list would have to grow to at least 100 titles including current releases to make it a must have.

As for me, I'd buy a lot more movies On Demand, if I could watch them in HD...
I'm with you here. I don't buy ANY movies on demand that I can't watch in HD.

So DID those 4 analogs get shut down? I'm not sure how to exactly tell, I still get programming on 80, 79, but for all I know, those can be digital.

For the post about lack of RR, I'm curious what others might be experiencing. For the past month or 6 weeks, I've had occasionally issues with the cable modem NOT connecting to their head end. Once, twice a week I'd get this, usually took 3-4-5 re-boots of the modem to bring it back. Friday I could NOT get it rolling after 20-30 reboots. Ran down, got a new one, it took a few re-boots to have it connect. Sat. and Sunday were awful, generally took 20 re-boots. Today (off work) it came right up, but has failed once already.

Sorts seems that maybe the issue isn't with the modem itself. I have zero issues with my TV service (other than the normal dread they are going to Navigator me) so I'm real curious if the issue isn't with the modem, exactly what could be causing this. The tech supposedly has until 4 to get here, the guy at 23rd street automatically made an appointment when I asked for the new modem (good CSR move).

For the post about lack of RR, I'm curious what others might be experiencing. For the past month or 6 weeks, I've had occasionally issues with the cable modem NOT connecting to their head end. Once, twice a week I'd get this, usually took 3-4-5 re-boots of the modem to bring it back. Friday I could NOT get it rolling after 20-30 reboots. Ran down, got a new one, it took a few re-boots to have it connect. Sat. and Sunday were awful, generally took 20 re-boots. Today (off work) it came right up, but has failed once already.

Sorts seems that maybe the issue isn't with the modem itself. I have zero issues with my TV service (other than the normal dread they are going to Navigator me) so I'm real curious if the issue isn't with the modem, exactly what could be causing this. The tech supposedly has until 4 to get here, the guy at 23rd street automatically made an appointment when I asked for the new modem (good CSR move).

No issues whatsoever with internet service by me.

Is it a SciAtl 3250 or 3250HD?

If it's an Explorer 3250, then you'll need to get it changed. Your local TWCNYC office will swap it for free, no questions asked.

The standard HD box is the Explorer 3250HD or 3250HDC. Both are functionally identical, but the HDC is newer and uses CableCARD. In general, it really doesn't matter which of these you get.

For HD DVR service, you might get the Explorer 8300HD or 8300HDC. Again, both are functionally identical, but the HDC is newer and uses CableCARD. There is also the Samsung H3050. If possible, you want to try and get the 8300HD, if only to stave off Navigator (TWC's new guide software) for as long as possible. There will be an additional monthly charge for DVR service, but getting the box will be free.

it's regular 3250... no 'hd' next to it. HD has no cable card, HDC has a cable card... do i care for a cable card?

Samsung H3050? I checked the TW site over the wkend before posting here, there's no info I could come across regarding any of which you're providing... thanks for the info.

Well, I was at the 23rd Street TWC office on Friday and I heard all HD boxes are in backorder for at least a month but they're offering an HD-DVR as a replacement and waived the fees until they get stock, I also heard technicians have HD boxes available in their trucks but that it'll cost you a service call.


quest: which model HD-DVR would they be offering?

i ran a quick google on 3250HD, and came to this link that shows the back of the device:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nebraska/customer/equipment/sa3250hd.html

so I have a 1080P LCD, I'm going to connect both via COAX?

any box has HDMI?

I see the cable box has a DVI connection... is getting a DVI to HDMI connector the same, better or worse than COAX to the LCD, for image quality?

NO, not COAX. No HD signal via COAX. You'll have to use the component (3 wire) connection.

it's regular 3250... no 'hd' next to it. HD has no cable card, HDC has a cable card... do i care for a cable card?

Samsung H3050? I checked the TW site over the wkend before posting here, there's no info I could come across regarding any of which you're providing... thanks for the info.

With the 3250s, CableCARD is really a take-it-or-leave-it deal. You won't notice it's there, and it won't change your service one iota.

The Samsung H3050 is quite new (I believe it was introduced just a few months ago) and TWC is notoriously lackadaisical in updating its website.

i ran a quick google on 3250HD, and came to this link that shows the back of the device:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nebraska/customer/equipment/sa3250hd.html

so I have a 1080P LCD, I'm going to connect both via COAX?

any box has HDMI?

I see the cable box has a DVI connection... is getting a DVI to HDMI connector the same, better or worse than COAX to the LCD, for image quality?
You can use the DVI port. The page you linked indicates the DVI port is disabled. That may be true in Nebraska, but in New York, the DVI port is most definitely fully functional. I know this because it's what I use.

NO, not COAX. No HD signal via COAX. You'll have to use the component (3 wire) connection.


i see. alternatively, would using the DVI from the cable box to the LCD's HDMI via an adapter I'd have to purchase be better for image quality than using the Component method?

I think it would, because it would eliminate needless digital-analog conversions, but you should try it both ways and judge for yourself. The cables are cheap enough if you look online.

Yes, it probably would. Sorry...when I looked at the picture and it showed "disabled" for the DVI port, I assumed.....

But, if it is indeed enabled in NY, use it.

No issues whatsoever with internet service by me.

Well, the tech came... no issues inside my apartment. He DID find a serious issue at the distribution box that feed me. Something about the "return" signal that worked one minute, totally failed the other. On 2 different ports of that hub (I asked it was an active, powered distribution amplifier, he had no response to that question).

Clearly the worst of all, intermittent. He had NO idea if others were having issues or complained. They have to schedule engineering to come out in another couple of weeks. He would NOT run a cable from another distribution box, or replace the "hub" in my distribution box.

What really pisses me off is that this is the second time in the past 2-3 years there is an issue 'in the stairwell." What really burns my ass is that we DID have a fight with them over drilling holes in the stairwell landing to put in this "secure" system of metal pipe and locked metal boxes on each floor, housing this "hub" device which has one port for each customer on that floor. We're talking a re-wired system from about 4 years ago. This is the second time it has failed.

I DID find that it might be better to leave the modem always running, typically I turn it off. It still failed this morning, but it only took 5 re-boots to come back to life.

Other than a rant at TWC (which they richly deserve) I post this crap because some MAY be contemplating their phone service. This makes three times in the past three years that it would have been out of service for more than 5 days (it will be 8 days this time IF they comne and actually fix the issue). Friday, Sat. and Sun. I would NOT have been able to use their phone service during the hours I was at home before trudging off to work.

I DID find that it might be better to leave the modem always running, typically I turn it off. It still failed this morning, but it only took 5 re-boots to come back to life.You say that you turn your modem off? I’m still new to this, believe it or not, and have only had a modem (and computer) in my house since last November. I was told to leave the modem on. It’s always flashing away with the little green lights 24/7. Should I shut it down? As I mentioned in a previous post, I only know of one time when the phone went down and that was only for a minute or two.

I wouldn’t consider their phone service if I didn’t have a workable cellular phone in addition.

if u have a digital box...all channels are digital. there is a common misconception that channels under 80 or under 100 are analog. digital box users see digital signals, analog box users see analog signals period. if u have cable ready tv u can see a scrambled pic on ch26,32,37,49 in north man and ch28,29,39,49 in south. when they disappear u will know when the analogs are dropped


So DID those 4 analogs get shut down? I'm not sure how to exactly tell, I still get programming on 80, 79, but for all I know, those can be digital.

For the post about lack of RR, I'm curious what others might be experiencing. For the past month or 6 weeks, I've had occasionally issues with the cable modem NOT connecting to their head end. Once, twice a week I'd get this, usually took 3-4-5 re-boots of the modem to bring it back. Friday I could NOT get it rolling after 20-30 reboots. Ran down, got a new one, it took a few re-boots to have it connect. Sat. and Sunday were awful, generally took 20 re-boots. Today (off work) it came right up, but has failed once already.

Sorts seems that maybe the issue isn't with the modem itself. I have zero issues with my TV service (other than the normal dread they are going to Navigator me) so I'm real curious if the issue isn't with the modem, exactly what could be causing this. The tech supposedly has until 4 to get here, the guy at 23rd street automatically made an appointment when I asked for the new modem (good CSR move).

u must speak the same language and use same terms for tech to understand. the tech that came to your house probably can not do any torubleshooting beyond the tap which i believe u call distribution box. system is designed to have one tap port per apartment. a "tap" usually has 8 ports but can also have 2 or 4 ports. a floor with say 7 apartments would typically have an 8 port tap. a floor with 14 apartments may have two 8 port taps, etc.

what u refer to as powered distribution amplifier would be more commonly referred to as mini bridger or line extender. unless you are familiar with how a system is designed outside you apartment, rathebetter not to act like u do and just have the call escalated.



Well, the tech came... no issues inside my apartment. He DID find a serious issue at the distribution box that feed me. Something about the "return" signal that worked one minute, totally failed the other. On 2 different ports of that hub (I asked it was an active, powered distribution amplifier, he had no response to that question).

Clearly the worst of all, intermittent. He had NO idea if others were having issues or complained. They have to schedule engineering to come out in another couple of weeks. He would NOT run a cable from another distribution box, or replace the "hub" in my distribution box.

What really pisses me off is that this is the second time in the past 2-3 years there is an issue 'in the stairwell." What really burns my ass is that we DID have a fight with them over drilling holes in the stairwell landing to put in this "secure" system of metal pipe and locked metal boxes on each floor, housing this "hub" device which has one port for each customer on that floor. We're talking a re-wired system from about 4 years ago. This is the second time it has failed.

I DID find that it might be better to leave the modem always running, typically I turn it off. It still failed this morning, but it only took 5 re-boots to come back to life.

Other than a rant at TWC (which they richly deserve) I post this crap because some MAY be contemplating their phone service. This makes three times in the past three years that it would have been out of service for more than 5 days (it will be 8 days this time IF they comne and actually fix the issue). Friday, Sat. and Sun. I would NOT have been able to use their phone service during the hours I was at home before trudging off to work.

Wam was a special Teen only station that was able to show recent movies uncut. It was included in the DTV pack for no extra chanrge, Encore bought the channel but for some reason TWC never shut it down or gave it as a premium only station(Good for us) It does have some decent first run movies for a channel that we all get for the cost of basic. Maybe we should stop talking abut it because we don't want TWC to realize it's mistake if it is a mistake at all. Maybe the encore channel decided since it was included in our basic package they just left it that way until their new contract is up.


the starz/encore group of channels works a little different than typical programmers like hbo/max/sho/tmc. in some systems (non twc) starz/encore are sold like any other premiums. while others even have encore lumped in with digital tiers of channels or price them much lower than hbo/max. license fees for starz/max are lower than bigboys hbo/max

FBN will be in analog and digital


http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11537549#post11537549

Network: Old # - New #
FBN - xx - 43
MSNBC - 43 - 14
ABCFam - 14 - 38
Bravo - 38 - 18
Disc - 18 - 66 (next to National Geographic... TMC = 66 until 9/15)
FoxNews- 46 - 44
SciFi - 44 - 17
Hist - 17 - 40
USA - 40 - 16
A&E - 16 - 46

when the analog premiums are dropped, the end result is more bandwith. just because there is more bandwith don't expect that to be occupied overnight. keep in mind there are many things that bandwith is needed for not just hdtv.

docsis channel bonding, more hd, hd on demand, more standard definition channels, switched digital, etc.

as far as comparing RR to OOL, cablevision in long island faces the same threats from verizon as twc does in SI. competition will more dictate speeds and channel offerings than rants on message boards ;-)


What are people expecting after the bandwidth frees up September 15:
More HD channels
More Digital channels
More bandwidth for existing channels
More bandwidth for RoadRunner (Optimum Online is now up to 40Mbit down/2Mbit up in some areas, compared to to RR's 10Mbit down/768k up, which is worse than OOL had YEARS ago on the base/nonpremium tier)
Or perhaps -- Nothing ?

If you expect something, how long do you think until it happens?

My theory may be that nothing will happen for a while, and they will probably save the bandwidth for internet and wait until FIOS becomes more of a threat before actually enabling the higher BW, but that HD is mostly not a threat.

Thoughts?

FBN will be in analog and digital

:eek:

So instead of getting the HD version of it - along with 2 more HD channels..................................

:mad:

when the analog premiums are dropped, the end result is more bandwith. just because there is more bandwith don't expect that to be occupied overnight. keep in mind there are many things that bandwith is needed for not just hdtv.

docsis channel bonding, more hd, hd on demand, more standard definition channels, switched digital, etc.

as far as comparing RR to OOL, cablevision in long island faces the same threats from verizon as twc does in SI. competition will more dictate speeds and channel offerings than rants on message boards ;-)

While you're right in the sense that complaints here don't equal more of what complainers are looking for, any company that had an ounce of common sense would have people watching boards such as this, in addition to their own customer service feedback, to find out what people are clamoring for. If TWC waits for Verizon to get municipal licenses and start to lay fiber in neighborhoods, the battle's already lost, dude.

If TWC somewhere down the line comes to me saying "Gee, because we like you we're giving you 15 more HD channels out of the goodness of our hearts" only because Verizon's already in the 'hood, so to speak, it's far too late. The time is NOW to secure long term customers. The time is NOW to ramp up and provide the additional channels, the additional technology (e.g. Switched Digital), the additional bandwidth, etc.

So, if you're truly an "insider", I'd suggest you pass those little nuggets along. Any company worth its salt wouldn't wait for the next competitive bully to come down the pike. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the wisdom with monopolies such as we have now. They neglect this type of advice at their own peril.

You say that you turn your modem off? I’m still new to this, believe it or not, and have only had a modem (and computer) in my house since last November. I was told to leave the modem on. It’s always flashing away with the little green lights 24/7. Should I shut it down? As I mentioned in a previous post, I only know of one time when the phone went down and that was only for a minute or two.

I wouldn’t consider their phone service if I didn’t have a workable cellular phone in addition.

I've had my cable modem on for at least 5 years straight. There's no reason to turn it off, especially if you have a router behind it.

when the analog premiums are dropped, the end result is more bandwith. just because there is more bandwith don't expect that to be occupied overnight. keep in mind there are many things that bandwith is needed for not just hdtv.

docsis channel bonding, more hd, hd on demand, more standard definition channels, switched digital, etc.

as far as comparing RR to OOL, cablevision in long island faces the same threats from verizon as twc does in SI. competition will more dictate speeds and channel offerings than rants on message boards ;-)


I agree with what Slikkster has said. If TWC waits until FIOS is available in my neighborhood before offering more HD, faster speed internet, and lower pricing, I will be happy to say "thanks but no thanks", and move on to FIOS. At this point it seems really obvious that TWC is dragging their feet when my neighbors across the street with OOL can somehow manage to have service far superior to what I have on this side of the street, and this has gone on for years.

I understand it takes some time to use the bandwidth for new things, but you really need to step up your game.

On top of all that, the commercials you guys run (eg "Sir Charge", and "Fiber Crunch") make me just think worse and worse of TWC every time I see them. The surcharges are there because the government mandates them, not because verizon wants them, and the only reason voip doesnt have it yet is because voip providers have lobbied for it to be that way. And as far as "Time Warner's been using Fiber for years - get with the program!" - Fiber to the home versus fiber in the backbone, not exactly the same thing, and Verizon (and most other telcos) have been using fiber in the backbone since before Time Warner Cable (and other cablecos) have. I don't think the cheesy ads are winning any battles, and if TWC really wants to win, then they need to actually offer superior service. Right now, many TWC users will jump ship the moment FIOS is available.

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FYI-- I just noticed that our Music Choice channels just got a re working. I didn’t take an inventory :) but it appears there are new ones—or at least name or format changes.

FYI-- I just noticed that our Music Choice channels just got a re working. I didn’t take an inventory :) but it appears there are new ones—or at least name or format changes.

September 18: Music Choice channel changes are: R&B and Hip Hop ch. 605 changes to Hip Hop and R&B; Smooth R&B ch. 607 changes to R&B Soul; Soft Rock ch. 619 changes to Lite Hits; Adult Top 40 will launch on ch. 620; Kidz Only will replace Radio Disney and launch on ch. 622; Sounds of the Seasons will move from ch. 641 to 601; Adult Alternative will move from ch. 618 to 614; Alternative will move from ch. 614 to 615; Retro-Active will move from ch. 615 to 616; Electronica will move from ch. 616 to 617; Dance will move from ch. 617 to 618; Hit List will move from ch. 620 to 621; Party Favorites will move from ch. 621 to 623; Showcase will move from ch. 601 to 624; The 90’s will move from ch. 622 to 625; The 80’s will move from ch. 623 to 626; The 70’s will move from ch. 624 to 627; Solid Gold Oldies will move from ch. 625 to 628; Easy Listening will move from ch. 628 to 634; Big Band & Swing will move from ch. 627 to 635; Singers and Standards will move from ch. 626 to 636; Classical Masterpieces will move from ch. 634 to 640; Lite Classical will move from ch. 636 to 641; Pop Latino will move from ch. 645 to 642; Musica Urbana will move from ch. 642 to 643; Salsa y Merengue will move from ch. 643 to 644; Rock en Espanol will move from ch. 644 to 646; Opera will move from ch. 635 to 648; Mexicana will move from ch. 646 to 645; Americana is a new launch on ch. 647

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

:cool: Cool… silly me… I didn’t think to check their web site.:rolleyes:

I figured by the time they updated the Music Choice list, the songs playing on today’s Top 40 channel would be on their Oldies channel.:p:D

Anyone know the easiest way to get a 2nd 8300HD? I'd like to connect it to the same display as my existing 8300HD. At least a few nights a week during hockey season I need a 3rd (or 4th) tuner and figured a 2nd box would solve the problem. Anyone running two on one TV?

Anyone know the easiest way to get a 2nd 8300HD? I'd like to connect it to the same display as my existing 8300HD. At least a few nights a week during hockey season I need a 3rd (or 4th) tuner and figured a 2nd box would solve the problem. Anyone running two on one TV?So you’re not swapping one out? You are just adding a box? I’d call it in now- during off hours—and tell them that you want to add (or swap out a box).

I wouldn’t get into the fact that it’s going on the same display as another STB.

Tell them you want to go into your local center and pick it up. They should document it and give you a “work order” number, or at least, get it into the system. This way, when you go to the center, you can get in and out quicker.

I do recall some here having more than one on a display. You can go on the 8300 thread and ask there. I know there are definitely folks there that have two boxes on one display.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=453804&page=229

Anyone know the easiest way to get a 2nd 8300HD? I'd like to connect it to the same display as my existing 8300HD. At least a few nights a week during hockey season I need a 3rd (or 4th) tuner and figured a 2nd box would solve the problem. Anyone running two on one TV?

I don't have two 8300's but I do have an 8300 and a Pace STB (non DVR) connected to the same set (through an external component-video switch). Since both boxes respond to the same IR codes, the problem for most people is controlling the desired box. I have an elaborate computer-operated system with closed IR conrtrol of each box so control is no problem. What others have done is to turn on one box and then a power command will reverse which box is operated. Another system sets the two boxes some distance apart and the remote control is then pointed at the box to control. A third option is to use IR extenders with separated sensors and block the direct IR signal to each box.

Good luck with your system.

Cynthia

i ran a quick google on 3250HD, and came to this link that shows the back of the device:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nebraska/customer/equipment/sa3250hd.html

so I have a 1080P LCD, I'm going to connect both via COAX?

any box has HDMI?

I see the cable box has a DVI connection... is getting a DVI to HDMI connector the same, better or worse than COAX to the LCD, for image quality?
DVD-HDMI should be the way to go, That is technically the best connection then component cables being a very close second. These are the only connections able to receive an HD. Just make sure the box you have has an HD after the numbers because there are non-hd boxes available with the same #'s. I don't think TWC has them but just in case it is good to know.

i see. alternatively, would using the DVI from the cable box to the LCD's HDMI via an adapter I'd have to purchase be better for image quality than using the Component method?

Do not get the adaptor, it is best if you buy a DVD-HDMI cable. You want to avoid any add-on when it comes to this technology. Unndunn is correct, it will be up to you to see which connection DVD or component gives you better PQ. But the transfer is suppose to best with DVI or HDMI.

Other than a rant at TWC (which they richly deserve) I post this crap because some MAY be contemplating their phone service. This makes three times in the past three years that it would have been out of service for more than 5 days (it will be 8 days this time IF they comne and actually fix the issue). Friday, Sat. and Sun. I would NOT have been able to use their phone service during the hours I was at home before trudging off to work.

River thanks for the heads up, because I am on the bubble with Verizon or full TWC service. But do you think this is more apartment dwelling related only? Do you think I would suffer the same fate in a private house? Other than outages, is there any other complaint? Friends of mine that have road runner have all said to keep it running 24/7 to avoid problems. They all had problems when they shut down.

the starz/encore group of channels works a little different than typical programmers like hbo/max/sho/tmc. in some systems (non twc) starz/encore are sold like any other premiums. while others even have encore lumped in with digital tiers of channels or price them much lower than hbo/max. license fees for starz/max are lower than bigboys hbo/max
Starz and encore are sold just like premiums here also like you said, we are just getting encoreWAM included with our basic service. One would still have to pay extra to get the remaining Encore channels. It is just wierd why we get that channel ever since it was sold to encore.

While you're right in the sense that complaints here don't equal more of what complainers are looking for, any company that had an ounce of common sense would have people watching boards such as this, in addition to their own customer service feedback, to find out what people are clamoring for. If TWC waits for Verizon to get municipal licenses and start to lay fiber in neighborhoods, the battle's already lost, dude.

If TWC somewhere down the line comes to me saying "Gee, because we like you we're giving you 15 more HD channels out of the goodness of our hearts" only because Verizon's already in the 'hood, so to speak, it's far too late. The time is NOW to secure long term customers. The time is NOW to ramp up and provide the additional channels, the additional technology (e.g. Switched Digital), the additional bandwidth, etc.

So, if you're truly an "insider", I'd suggest you pass those little nuggets along. Any company worth its salt wouldn't wait for the next competitive bully to come down the pike. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the wisdom with monopolies such as we have now. They neglect this type of advice at their own peril.

Slikster, I think you are right and wrong with your assetment here. From I read, it seems you are on the FIOSTV side of the bubble. Very understansable but from what I can see, not only from this page but from threads and surveys thoughout the net. you are not alone, but the group isn't as big as you might think. Verizon will get a lot of new customers that just change because of dissatisfaction w/TWC, but the majority of the public will focus on price. From everything we have been seeing, Verizon will end up being more expensive. Even their intro triple play package ends up being more than TWC which a lot of people will take into account. TWC is doing what it can to prevent a huge exodus, but IMO they are wasting money trying to prevent people leaving rather then doing it the easy way. Lawsuits to stop Verizon and Sat to stop commercials from misrepresenting TWC. Come on, that money could be better used. Use it to get the bandwith needed to get what the people want. More Channels!! If they get us the extra channels I doubt many people would leave. HD should be on the priority list, not the "To do" list eventhough it has a small precentage of TWC subscribers. It is the future and all the other companies are using HD as their winning achievements so TWC needs to follw suit. Also use that money on better training for CSR's on HD use. The reps are nowhere near as trained as they should be.

Companies have started to use these threads and others as a place of information but from what I have seen it gets hard to tell the difference between real complaints to someone that flat out complain to complain. I have heard of computer companies(Apple & IBM), Sony, ABC, and other check. So I would not be surprise if TWC is one of those compainies also. These companies wish they could make everyone happy, but that is just impossible. Most try their best but sometimes they have to be called out there when they are slacking off!!!

:cool: Cool… silly me… I didn’t think to check their web site.:rolleyes:

I figured by the time they updated the Music Choice list, the songs playing on today’s Top 40 channel would be on their Oldies channel.:p:D
I wouldn't run to their web site either because the HD channel line-up is still at its pre-ESPN2 form. This is why we forget to/do not check there first.

Anyone know the easiest way to get a 2nd 8300HD? I'd like to connect it to the same display as my existing 8300HD. At least a few nights a week during hockey season I need a 3rd (or 4th) tuner and figured a 2nd box would solve the problem. Anyone running two on one TV?
Broadway, you are killing me with your Hockey obsession. But it takes a REAL fan like you to have problems like this.:D I respect that. GO RANGERS!!!!! The answers here are good, but there is a real problem. Other then buying the box online(very risky) the only real way to do this with an easy swap is if you have a second box in your house already. Then you can swap that one out for another 8300 no questions asked, but that WILL add more to you bill. If you just ask for a box with no connection availble TWC has the right to chrge you a service call(discussed earlier) and they might not approved 2 boxes on one TV. Are the Rangers worth the extra charge? I know the answer to that;):p I know these are early season games, but if you have to watch them my best advice for you is, watch them!! You have alternate means to watch the shows. Once the game is over that is it other then the 60min replay. The shows you are going to miss can probably be seen online, just make sure you record the show you that doesn't have an online feed. NBC and ABC have been very good at this online thing and give a good selection of shows to see. Good luck!

Slikster, I think you are right and wrong with your assetment here. From I read, it seems you are on the FIOSTV side of the bubble. Very understansable but from what I can see, not only from this page but from threads and surveys thoughout the net. you are not alone, but the group isn't as big as you might think. <snip>

Companies have started to use these threads and others as a place of information but from what I have seen it gets hard to tell the difference between real complaints to someone that flat out complain to complain. I have heard of computer companies(Apple & IBM), Sony, ABC, and other check. So I would not be surprise if TWC is one of those compainies also. These companies wish they could make everyone happy, but that is just impossible. Most try their best but sometimes they have to be called out there when they are slacking off!!!

Well, for the record, I am NOT on the Verizon side of anything. The only Verizon service I use is cell, and that's because it's the one that gives me coverage where I live. I dropped their landline for cheaper VOIP. So, just to let you know I'm not playing favorites.

IF TWC gets smart and gets bandwidth, HD, price-competitiveness in line before Verizon comes into my area, I'll be happy to stay. I want the best products and services at the best prices. When technology already exists to upgrade and provide better service but it's not done due to lack of competition, I have no reason to stay loyal to that company.

You guys want to cry, check out TWC north carloina. Oct 1 they are getting TBS HD aws well as A&E HD, MTV HD, History Channel HD, CNN HD, Lifetime Movies HD, Food Network HD, Golf Channel/Versus HD, and Universal HD. If anything is good about this announcement, it is the fact that the one month notification rule is out the window. Something to keep a glimmer of hope for. Oct 1 is 11 days away and we can still have some last min changes, we already know of some. Could it be Lietime, CNN, NG and the History channel for us?

You say that you turn your modem off? I’m still new to this, believe it or not, and have only had a modem (and computer) in my house since last November. I was told to leave the modem on. It’s always flashing away with the little green lights 24/7. Should I shut it down? As I mentioned in a previous post, I only know of one time when the phone went down and that was only for a minute or two.

I wouldn’t consider their phone service if I didn’t have a workable cellular phone in addition.

I used to run my whole computer system 24/7, but with the way too rapid increase in my electric cost, I got myself a Kill-A-Watt (all of you should get one!) and was shocked to see how much usage it took, so I started with shutting everything down. Given all the damn power bricks I still found it rolling along at 30-35 watts, so I started actually cutting power off. It made no impact on the modem. Now that the tech has come out, I KNOW there is an issue in the buildings TWC distribution system (FWIW, 5 years or so ago they encased ALL wires in 4" metal conduit, feeding distribution boxes on each landing in the stairwell). Which, btw, is the second time an issue in that system will cause me to lose IP connectivity for up to 2 weeks (this time it's very much an intermittent issue, so leaving it running 24/7 for the past 2 days means only twice a day do I have to do my 20 reboots to get connected again). I'm up but limping.

Well, for the record, I am NOT on the Verizon side of anything. The only Verizon service I use is cell, and that's because it's the one that gives me coverage where I live. I dropped their landline for cheaper VOIP. So, just to let you know I'm not playing favorites.

IF TWC gets smart and gets bandwidth, HD, price-competitiveness in line before Verizon comes into my area, I'll be happy to stay. I want the best products and services at the best prices. When technology already exists to upgrade and provide better service but it's not done due to lack of competition, I have no reason to stay loyal to that company.
Really, the way you wrote it seemed like you were ready for the change once it was official. I apologize.
I am in a different boat then you. Everything I have is Verizon(phone, cell and DSL) plus I don't have the same issues with TWC that many others have had. For me it will basically come down to price. They really need to stand out for me to make the change. My cable service, despite the CSR's not knowing as much as I would like them to. Has been a very good experience. The shortage in HD on TWC is a big concern, but with the TV season in full swing I don't really watch anything but network TV anyway.

price-competitiveness

I don't know what area you are in but I know TWC has already started the fight with the prices, unfortunately they didn't drop them which is the best way to show people that they are saving. They offered discounts for commitments. 1 year at 5% or 2 years at 10% off your total bill. Not a bad deal if you have the triple play at full price. A good start IMO, but for some it might be to little to late.

if u have a digital box...all channels are digital. there is a common misconception that channels under 80 or under 100 are analog. digital box users see digital signals, analog box users see analog signals period. if u have cable ready tv u can see a scrambled pic on ch26,32,37,49 in north man and ch28,29,39,49 in south. when they disappear u will know when the analogs are dropped

Ah, very interesting. So the fact that HBO shows up on channel 80 on an analog box means that it REALLY is on one of the channels you mention if tuned by the TV?

So if I tune to a cannel with the TV (raw cable into an input on the TV) and see a scrambled picture, that is an indication of an analog channel?

Man North here and all those do NOT have a scrambled image. BUT I tried a few around them and found no scrambled picture. The up/down channel button will ONLY find ones with clean signals, so I have to manually enter channel numbers...

u must speak the same language and use same terms for tech to understand. the tech that came to your house probably can not do any torubleshooting beyond the tap which i believe u call distribution box. system is designed to have one tap port per apartment. a "tap" usually has 8 ports but can also have 2 or 4 ports. a floor with say 7 apartments would typically have an 8 port tap. a floor with 14 apartments may have two 8 port taps, etc.

what u refer to as powered distribution amplifier would be more commonly referred to as mini bridger or line extender. unless you are familiar with how a system is designed outside you apartment, rathebetter not to act like u do and just have the call escalated.

Well I wasn't "acting" like anything except a customer who had an issue with failing service: this IS the second time in 2 years there was an issue in the "system" they built 4-5 years ago (encasing all wiring in 4" metal conduit, drilling big holes on each landing to run it with locked "distribution" boxes on each landing).

Besides, the tech was the only one to totally misuse "terms," he kept calling the ports "pots." I used distribution box because I believe far more would understand here than if I simply said "tap." In point of fact, it is accurate to call them distribution boxes because their purpose is to distribute to the apartments on each floor. I think I made it clear that I wasn't sure if the device inside the box was passive (like a hub) or active (like a distribution amplifier). SAYING I don't know what it was in no way "acting like I knew what it was called."

Besides, I very much HAVE heard techs call the individual ports "taps."

He would NOT replace the "tap" (which is exactly where the problem seems to lie) as you call it. Nor was he willing to run from another "tap" to see if he could get a good "return" signal. I must conclude based on what he told me that he didn't FIX the issue, at least temporarily, because he was "late" for his next appointment...

Yes the issue was escalated... to engineering. Who won't be here until the end of the month. Then I expect that exactly like 2 years ago, they will dispatch 3 "techs" 2 of whom will lie on the stairs and sleep while the third will do all the work.

While you're right in the sense that complaints here don't equal more of what complainers are looking for, any company that had an ounce of common sense would have people watching boards such as this, in addition to their own customer service feedback, to find out what people are clamoring for. If TWC waits for Verizon to get municipal licenses and start to lay fiber in neighborhoods, the battle's already lost, dude.

If TWC somewhere down the line comes to me saying "Gee, because we like you we're giving you 15 more HD channels out of the goodness of our hearts" only because Verizon's already in the 'hood, so to speak, it's far too late. The time is NOW to secure long term customers. The time is NOW to ramp up and provide the additional channels, the additional technology (e.g. Switched Digital), the additional bandwidth, etc.

So, if you're truly an "insider", I'd suggest you pass those little nuggets along. Any company worth its salt wouldn't wait for the next competitive bully to come down the pike. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the wisdom with monopolies such as we have now. They neglect this type of advice at their own peril.

Bravo, excellent points, very well said. The slap on the face of giving folks on SI 6 more HD channels than the rest of us AND lower rates AND keeping us totally in the dark all go towards the fact they HAVE lost me as a customer (when I can get FIOS). I completely expect that by that time, the "products" and pricing may be very similar between them, I will remember the fact that in their arrogance, they slapped me in the face because they could get away with it (where the frak are the folks who are SUPPOSED to watch out for the citizens, who have allowed TWC to discriminate against their customers based on where they live??).

I understand it takes some time to use the bandwidth for new things, but you really need to step up your game.

Horseshit, there is no reason on earth why we can't be looking at the 6 HD channels SI already has by now. It would STILL leave half a dozen HD channels worth of bandwidth to do something else.

:cool: Cool… silly me… I didn’t think to check their web site.:rolleyes:

I figured by the time they updated the Music Choice list, the songs playing on today’s Top 40 channel would be on their Oldies channel.:p:D

Not silly at all Larry... some time in the past 2 weeks they seemed to have actually updated the channel listing to show the changes made on 6/14 (4 MONTHS later!). I expect the channel listing to show the changes in the music channels by the start of next year, if not later.

Horseshit, there is no reason on earth why we can't be looking at the 6 HD channels SI already has by now. It would STILL leave half a dozen HD channels worth of bandwidth to do something else.
I am with you River. I don'tt care what they say about bandwith, If they can do it in one part of the city they should be able to do it in the rest. When TWC merged all the small companies back it the days they made it one network so, How can they claim one area has more than another if we are suppose to be one? we all Lost YesHD together so how does that happen if we aren't ONE. The space is there they just want to send them out(the HD channels) on their liesure or compettive priority. Devils advocate here, forgetting the trouble with navigator for a second. Maybe they are waiting to make sure they send out the best possible signal before they send it out widesperead.

Not silly at all Larry... some time in the past 2 weeks they seemed to have actually updated the channel listing to show the changes made on 6/14 (4 MONTHS later!). I expect the channel listing to show the changes in the music channels by the start of next year, if not later.

It's happened in the last 2 DAYS (I checked earlier this week)

Funny that UniversalHD disappeared from the list

Anyone know the easiest way to get a 2nd 8300HD? I'd like to connect it to the same display as my existing 8300HD. At least a few nights a week during hockey season I need a 3rd (or 4th) tuner and figured a 2nd box would solve the problem. Anyone running two on one TV?

Far as I can tell, you will NOT be able to get one... they will most likely give you a 8300HDC with... NAVIGATOR! Virtually guaranteeing you that you WILL miss some of those shows that COULD be recorded on that 3rd and 4th tuner.

One suggestion... say there are three things at a certain time. IF one of them is on 2.3.4.5.6.7.9.11.13, you CAN split your cable prior to the 8300 and run one side directly to the TV. Record 2 on the 8300 and watch one of those "live" on the input on the TV where you have the raw cable. Bette still if the TV has a QAM tuner... you should get the HD version of some of those channels.

The kicker is that I figured out after I got my HD that I should have gotten one with a cable card slot, effectively giving my 3 tuners. So a cable card slot became a must have for my next display, EXCEPT it seems that some are dropping such a slot (Samsung had them in some of last years models, but not the current ones).

River thanks for the heads up, because I am on the bubble with Verizon or full TWC service. But do you think this is more apartment dwelling related only? Do you think I would suffer the same fate in a private house? Other than outages, is there any other complaint? Friends of mine that have road runner have all said to keep it running 24/7 to avoid problems. They all had problems when they shut down.

Not sure I could say apartment dwelling only. Every issue that has given me issues (losing RR) has been traced outside of my front door. Twice in 2 years, one of their pieces of equipment has failed... and in a system that was rebuilt from the ground up about 5 years ago. Once they simply screwed up by physically cutting my wire (they had a shut off notice from a neighbor, they cut my wires, not theirs, obviously sloppy work) and leaving me totally without for over 5 days (Verizon would probably be here the very next day to correct such sloppy work by one of their techs).

Three times being out for 5+ days in the space of 2 years is just 100% unacceptable to even consider them for phone service. I still struggle to think of even one instance in 30 years that I picked up a Verizon phone and did NOT have a dialtone. (I had dialtone during the last blackout, keep in mind that if you have ANY power interruption in your block, bingo, NO PHONE service from TWC).

Not silly at all Larry... some time in the past 2 weeks they seemed to have actually updated the channel listing to show the changes made on 6/14 (4 MONTHS later!). I expect the channel listing to show the changes in the music channels by the start of next year, if not later.

brooklyn & queens page changed this afternoon, Because I responded to him at 12:30 and the page still had the old listings and I did have to re-enter my zipcode so I know it was a current page that popped up. But now it is finally right but we have changes coming in Oct so I guess they will have those posted by December.

Well, for the record, I am NOT on the Verizon side of anything. The only Verizon service I use is cell, and that's because it's the one that gives me coverage where I live. I dropped their landline for cheaper VOIP. So, just to let you know I'm not playing favorites.

IF TWC gets smart and gets bandwidth, HD, price-competitiveness in line before Verizon comes into my area, I'll be happy to stay. I want the best products and services at the best prices. When technology already exists to upgrade and provide better service but it's not done due to lack of competition, I have no reason to stay loyal to that company.

VOIP from TWC? Given my experiences of them keeping an IP connection actually functioning, I would never, ever go TWC VOIP. No doubt there are others who may not have experienced what I have, but the potential for it is 100% there as well. The most telling is they had a shut off order for another apartment in my building, so they cut my line (oh get this... I saw this with my own 2 eyes, the wires in the distribution box were unmarked so the first guy simply randomly picked one set and cut it!! I SAW this when they finally came to correct the issue). AND I had to wait over 5 days for them to correct a major screwup/sloppy work.

The pisser? In 30+ years of phone service from what is now Verizon, I can't recall ever picking up the phone to find no dialtone. During the last blackout, when I got home, I plugged in an old analog phone and bingo I HAD dialtone. Now who knows when the next one will strike, but when it does, i WILL have dialtone and TWC customers will not.

I don't know what area you are in but I know TWC has already started the fight with the prices, unfortunately they didn't drop them which is the best way to show people that they are saving. They offered discounts for commitments. 1 year at 5% or 2 years at 10% off your total bill. Not a bad deal if you have the triple play at full price. A good start IMO, but for some it might be to little to late.

That deal has been available for 3 months or so for SIers, but not for Manhattan. Their supporters all say we WILL get the discount, but in no way would that change the fact they have already done price discrimination by address already. "We" have essentially overpaid by about 45 bucks so far... (based on TV/DVR & RR service). Calculate in the 6 additional HD channels we don't get and it's more like 60 bucks.

Not sure I could say apartment dwelling only. Every issue that has given me issues (losing RR) has been traced outside of my front door. Twice in 2 years, one of their pieces of equipment has failed... and in a system that was rebuilt from the ground up about 5 years ago. Once they simply screwed up by physically cutting my wire (they had a shut off notice from a neighbor, they cut my wires, not theirs, obviously sloppy work) and leaving me totally without for over 5 days (Verizon would probably be here the very next day to correct such sloppy work by one of their techs).

Three times being out for 5+ days in the space of 2 years is just 100% unacceptable to even consider them for phone service. I still struggle to think of even one instance in 30 years that I picked up a Verizon phone and did NOT have a dialtone. (I had dialtone during the last blackout, keep in mind that if you have ANY power interruption in your block, bingo, NO PHONE service from TWC).
That is a good point. It does take a major problem to get the lights out in my area. Even during the summer, the northshore (bayside, whitestone, flushing) suffer through brownouts. Richmond Hill/Ozone Park has had full time electric. The only time we have gone out is the blackout, but I still have that corded phone in the kitchen for just these occasions. But the problem I foresee, even with Verizon FIOS you will be running a digital phone so you can lose the phone just like you lose the cable. It won't be the phone line of old, it will will be a power oriented phone line.
Verizon might get rid of your troubles but the problem could still happen

brooklyn & queens page changed this afternoon, Because I responded to him at 12:30 and the page still had the old listings and I did have to re-enter my zipcode so I know it was a current page that popped up. But now it is finally right but we have changes coming in Oct so I guess they will have those posted by December.

Truthfully, I saw the 10025 channel listing saying "R&B and HipHop" and I saw one of the changes was calling it only "HipHop" so I extrapolted. Checked again, the name is still wrong but reassigned ones seem to show the NEW channels.

It's happened in the last 2 DAYS (I checked earlier this week)

Funny that UniversalHD disappeared from the list

Great, they get 12 HD channels worth of bandwidth and not only aren't we geting any of the missing 6, but they may drop UnHD? They also don't seem to list the duplicated YES and SNY HD channels.

Great, they get 12 HD channels worth of bandwidth and not only aren't we geting any of the missing 6, but they may drop UnHD? They also don't seem to list the duplicated YES and SNY HD channels.
We won't lose that. It is still listed. NBC Universal is way to big of a company, they didn't get the approval to join all NBC networks together on the channel lineup just to drop their HD offering. UniversalHD is here to stay. I am one person that hopes nothing but good fortunes for it because it will be a good outlet for the shows on USA network to get a HD viewing.

Broadway, you are killing me with your Hockey obsession. But it takes a REAL fan like you to have problems like this.:D I respect that. GO RANGERS!!!!! The answers here are good, but there is a real problem. Other then buying the box online(very risky) the only real way to do this with an easy swap is if you have a second box in your house already. Then you can swap that one out for another 8300 no questions asked, but that WILL add more to you bill. If you just ask for a box with no connection availble TWC has the right to chrge you a service call(discussed earlier) and they might not approved 2 boxes on one TV. Are the Rangers worth the extra charge? I know the answer to that;):p I know these are early season games, but if you have to watch them my best advice for you is, watch them!! You have alternate means to watch the shows. Once the game is over that is it other then the 60min replay. The shows you are going to miss can probably be seen online, just make sure you record the show you that doesn't have an online feed. NBC and ABC have been very good at this online thing and give a good selection of shows to see. Good luck!

Yeah, I guess I watch too much TV...but some nights I have to do conflict resolution between the Rangers game and 2 other programs at the same time. I do have another box (in the bedroom) but it's not HD (nor is the set) and I rarely use it. I'm officially an HD snob, and watch practically nothing in SD. So basically the GF uses the box in the bedroom to tape her girly shows and I set up fort in the living room with the 112" HD screen. ;) I've watched a few shows online, but it's just not the same.

Whatever happened to the boxes that could communicate with one another? Supposedly you could record shows on any box and stream them to any other room, or something like that. Guess they never made it to TWC NYC.

Far as I can tell, you will NOT be able to get one... they will most likely give you a 8300HDC with... NAVIGATOR! Virtually guaranteeing you that you WILL miss some of those shows that COULD be recorded on that 3rd and 4th tuner.

One suggestion... say there are three things at a certain time. IF one of them is on 2.3.4.5.6.7.9.11.13, you CAN split your cable prior to the 8300 and run one side directly to the TV. Record 2 on the 8300 and watch one of those "live" on the input on the TV where you have the raw cable. Bette still if the TV has a QAM tuner... you should get the HD version of some of those channels.

The kicker is that I figured out after I got my HD that I should have gotten one with a cable card slot, effectively giving my 3 tuners. So a cable card slot became a must have for my next display, EXCEPT it seems that some are dropping such a slot (Samsung had them in some of last years models, but not the current ones).

Is the Navigator box really that unreliable?

I did do the cable split thing at one time...I would record the Hockey game and the hour long programs, and watch the 30 minute comedies on my 32" set that sat off to the side. During commercials I would unpause the hockey game and watch for a couple minutes until the show came back on...since I had to watch the 3rd show "live". Oh the horror. ;) However, I finally got rid of the old tube and need to figure out how to tape 3 shows in HD at once.

Wow, they actually changed the channel listings on the website? 4 months after the fact? Amazing! :o

Unfortunately, the lineup is still wrong in SI. A&E HD (746) and FSNY HD (748) are still not listed. Neither is NJN HD (750). And Food Network HD is 751, not 750.

The website inducates ALL HD channels in the 700s are in Starter Pack (except MOJO HD, HDNet and HDNet Movies). We subscribe to Starter Pack. But after weeks of calls, half a dozen tech visits (the last of which was by a guy who was extremely rude when I refused to accept his boilerplate explanation and practically ran to his van to leave as fast as possible as soon as I called customer service on him), A&E HD, FSNY HD, Food HD and HGTV HD still come up as Subscription channels. :mad:

And ESPN 2 HD still has unacceptable levels of glitching and dropouts, which are still marring my enjoyment of FIFA Women's World Cup games, including the one match I wanted to see in the whole tournament, USA v NGA a couple days ago. :mad:

I've written a complaint letter to DOITT about it. Hopefully they can light some kind of fire under TWC. But in any case, as soon as we get that call from Verizon, we're switching.

Wow, they actually changed the channel listings on the website?

Unfortunately, the lineup is still wrong
Awwww…. come on now… cut ‘em some slack….. maybe they couldn’t update their site.... ‘cause their modem was down.:p:D

this is rediculous.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/twtbsmore092007.htm

News
Time Warner: TBS HD For 6 More Cities
The channel will air this year's baseball playoffs.
By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (September 20, 2007) -- Time Warner today said TBS HD will be added to at least six more markets by October.

TVPredictions.com reported this morning that Time Warner subscribers in the Winston Salem, North Carolina area would get TBS HD on October 1.

Mark Harrad, a Time Warner spokesman, told TVPredictions.com this afternoon that the channel has already been been added in TW markets Austin, Texas and Waco, Texas.

He added that it will be added next month in Columbia, South Carolina, San Antonio, Albany, New York and Portland, Maine.

TBS HD is eagerly awaited by sports fans because the channel will carry first and second round action in this year's Major League Baseball playoffs.

Harrad said he did not know of other Time Warner markets where TBS HD will be added. Normally, Time Warner negotiates the national rights to carry a channel and then allows for the local TW system to decide when and how to carry it.

Time Warner has also told its customers in the Winston-Salem area that several other HD channels will be added on October 15, including CNN HD.

But Harrad said he could not confirm the CNN HD addition.

We won't lose that. It is still listed. NBC Universal is way to big of a company, they didn't get the approval to join all NBC networks together on the channel lineup just to drop their HD offering. UniversalHD is here to stay. I am one person that hopes nothing but good fortunes for it because it will be a good outlet for the shows on USA network to get a HD viewing.


USA Network HD, SciFiHD, and BravoHD are all launching next month...

UniversalHD is going to lose its usefulness very quickly (just like Discovery HD Theater) and its going to suck even more when we don't get them for a long time.

VOIP from TWC? Given my experiences of them keeping an IP connection actually functioning, I would never, ever go TWC VOIP.

I didn't say TWC's VOIP. I'm using a company called Viatalk, under a buy one year, get one free deal. Works out to about $8.xx/month for local and long distance, plus tons more free features that Verizon (and TWC's VOIP, for that matter) either don't have or would charge $$$ more for. For example, I can use a "softphone" for my local phone number anywhere I can hop on a broadband connection. In other words, my local number travels with me.
There's lots more, too. Verizon? I was paying about $50/month after all the dopey surcharges and whatnot for landline. I'll take my chances on the blackout. There's always the neighbor's landline, lol.

Hey guys, I was reading a article in the NY news day today about TBSHD, About us NYers that were babied by YESHD by showing all the games in HD and how we might be looking at TBSSD for the playoffs. However, the reporter claims that TWC customers will be getting TBS for the October playoffs. Does he know something that we don't? Where is Swammi or Fred with this great news for NYer's if it is a factual story? I know about the NCer's new found HD explosion, but he definately made it a NY add-on.

Wow, they actually changed the channel listings on the website? 4 months after the fact? Amazing! :o

Unfortunately, the lineup is still wrong in SI. A&E HD (746) and FSNY HD (748) are still not listed. Neither is NJN HD (750). And Food Network HD is 751, not 750.

Stop rubbing it in you SIer!!! :rolleyes:You still get the channel who cares if it is posted on the website. The only one's that help's is new customers or the other 3 counties that get to look on the site and see what station number it is GOING to be on. :D

USA Network HD, SciFiHD, and BravoHD are all launching next month...

UniversalHD is going to lose its usefulness very quickly (just like Discovery HD Theater) and its going to suck even more when we don't get them for a long time.
It will still be usefull, it will still be an outlet for the sleuth channel, or just a full time movie channel that can rival HDnet, not only that UniversalHD is a full time HD channel when the others get the HD treatment only their new shows will be in true HD. Plus, you know NBC wants some of those coins/$'s that mr. Cuban gets. Never count any channel that already exist out.

Why do you think discoveryHD will lose? It is still the most popular HD channel that everyone wants, and remember HD is stuill new to 1000's everyday. People that will watch DiscoveryHD constantly just like most of here didwhen we first got our HDTV's.

It will still be usefull, it will still be an outlet for the sleuth channel, or just a full time movie channel that can rival HDnet, not only that UniversalHD is a full time HD channel when the others get the HD treatment only their new shows will be in true HD. Plus, you know NBC wants some of those coins/$'s that mr. Cuban gets. Never count any channel that already exist out.

Why do you think discoveryHD will lose? It is still the most popular HD channel that everyone wants, and remember HD is stuill new to 1000's everyday. People that will watch DiscoveryHD constantly just like most of here didwhen we first got our HDTV's.

Discovery Theater HD is going to pretty much lose all content from the Discovery and History channels

Why would it lose it's discovery channel material? None of the channels mentioned are from Discovery nets. It doesn't have any History channel things. The History channel is aan A&E property, not discovery Channel. Right now the discovery channel will still be an outlet to original shows on their networks:

http://dsc.discovery.com/our-networks.html

It isn't going anywhere.

Why do you think discoveryHD will lose? It is still the most popular HD channel that everyone wants, and remember HD is stuill new to 1000's everyday. People that will watch DiscoveryHD constantly just like most of here didwhen we first got our HDTV's.


Yeah, I don't agree with that either. DHD is still one of the top HD channels. True, I would be quite happy if TWC gave us NGT and Equator, but I'd still enjoy DHD just the same.

Wow, they actually changed the channel listings on the website? 4 months after the fact? Amazing! :o

Unfortunately, the lineup is still wrong in SI. A&E HD (746) and FSNY HD (748) are still not listed. Neither is NJN HD (750). And Food Network HD is 751, not 750.

The website inducates ALL HD channels in the 700s are in Starter Pack (except MOJO HD, HDNet and HDNet Movies). We subscribe to Starter Pack. But after weeks of calls, half a dozen tech visits (the last of which was by a guy who was extremely rude when I refused to accept his boilerplate explanation and practically ran to his van to leave as fast as possible as soon as I called customer service on him), A&E HD, FSNY HD, Food HD and HGTV HD still come up as Subscription channels. :mad:

And ESPN 2 HD still has unacceptable levels of glitching and dropouts, which are still marring my enjoyment of FIFA Women's World Cup games, including the one match I wanted to see in the whole tournament, USA v NGA a couple days ago. :mad:

I've written a complaint letter to DOITT about it. Hopefully they can light some kind of fire under TWC. But in any case, as soon as we get that call from Verizon, we're switching.

NJN HD??? I don't recall that being part of the 6. My recollection was A&E HD, FSNY HD, Food HD, HGTV HD, MHD HD, and TMC HD. If there's also a NJN HD, that makes 7.

Might be an idea to reconfirm what you get that we don't. Sure seems the listings are NOT the way, so could I trouble you to list what you think is unique to you?

BTW, in Manhattan, NJN is the ONLY channels in the 700 series that is SD. Despite the fact they SAID they made all those channel changes so that ALL 700 series channels were HD. AND another part of the reason was to align the last 2 digits to be the same for SD and HD... which lasted for a few months, then they went and changed some of the SD numbers so we are back to the same place as we ere in early June.

this is rediculous.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/twtbsmore092007.htm

News
Time Warner: TBS HD For 6 More Cities
The channel will air this year's baseball playoffs.


No sh*t Here we have not one both 2 local home teams that are almost (but not quite) sure to be in the first round of the playoffs and we won't be getting them in HD. EVEN THOUGH we have literally TONS of bandwidth to give us ALL the one SI gets AND TBS and STILL have room for more HD channels.

BTW, when they mention New York, that means upstate... if they were going to add TBS HD for us, they WOULD have said NYC.

Why would it lose it's discovery channel material? None of the channels mentioned are from Discovery nets. It doesn't have any History channel things. The History channel is aan A&E property, not discovery Channel. Right now the discovery channel will still be an outlet to original shows on their networks:

http://dsc.discovery.com/our-networks.html

It isn't going anywhere.


Sorry.... I mean The Learning Channel HD.... not History HD
(getting all confused with the huge # of new HD channels we're not getting)

I had read in another thread that they'd be taking in their own content - leaving HD Theater with less to go with

Discovery Theater HD is going to pretty much lose all content from the Discovery and History channels

Might be an idea to explain some more... I believe that a LOT of the content on DiscHD is unique, in that it isn't a simulcast from their primary SD channel.

Might you be referring to the fact that Disc. announced that a number of their sub-channels were going to start broadcasting in HD? And you think that will/may siphon off some of the stuff we see on DiscHD? Given the TWC track record of keeping us with the fewest HD channels in the country, that may be very scary.

Here's the irony... they will put those on SDV once they have infected ALL of us with Nagivator (just hit on my choice for my own "pet name" for that bundle of crap code). Too bad one to two in three shows scheduled to record won't.

Might be an idea to explain some more... I believe that a LOT of the content on DiscHD is unique, in that it isn't a simulcast from their primary SD channel.

Might you be referring to the fact that Disc. announced that a number of their sub-channels were going to start broadcasting in HD? And you think that will/may siphon off some of the stuff we see on DiscHD? Given the TWC track record of keeping us with the fewest HD channels in the country, that may be very scary.

Here's the irony... they will put those on SDV once they have infected ALL of us with Nagivator (just hit on my choice for my own "pet name" for that bundle of crap code). Too bad one to two in three shows scheduled to record won't.

I think this was the thread i was referring to

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908088

No more content from any of the Discovery family networks....

Yeah, I don't agree with that either. DHD is still one of the top HD channels. True, I would be quite happy if TWC gave us NGT and Equator, but I'd still enjoy DHD just the same.
I second that, well I guess you would know considering how I have defended it. I wish it would start showing more shows from Animal planet. I tell you my, I also found out that BBC America and BBC World News is part of the Discovery family. I didn't know or expect that at all.

I think this was the thread i was referring to

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908088

No more content from any of the Discovery family networks....
I see what is happening. That makes sense that people thought DiscoveryTheaterHD would be leaving us, but it is going nowhere. The station will continue but the original Discovery channel will be available in HD form also with 3 others, not really News for us because we are still fighting to get VsHD (Broadwayblue I remeber you) and TBSHD for Baseball fans throughout NYC that should have both teams playing. However the other channels will be similcast stations of their SD counter parts while the Theater will continue to give true direct 1080i content that we have enjoyed since TWC started this station.

Thanks for the link Berk, it put everything in perspective.

I'm pretty sure I saw NJN (750) broadcast in HD at one point when I was idly flipping channels. I know they claim they broadcast in HD during primetime on Weekdays. I'll have to double-check.

But anyway, this is the list of channels I get in the 700s...


702 - WCBS HD
703 - TNT HD
704 - WNBC HD
705 - WNYW HD
707 - WABC HD
708 - YES HD
709 - WWOR HD
711 - WPIX HD
713 - PBS HD
718 - Discovery HD Theater
720 - MHD
726 - SNY HD
727 - MSG HD
728 - ESPN HD
729 - ESPN2 HD
730 - YES HD
740 - Universal HD
741 - SNY HD
746 - A&E HD
748 - FSNY HD
750 - WNJN
751 - Food Network HD
764 - HGTV HD
776 - Cinemax HD
777 - Starz HD
778 - TMC HD
779 - Showtime HD
780 - HBO HD
796 - Mojo HD (HDXtra)
797 - HDNet Movies (HDXtra)
798 - HDNet (HDXtra)

that list looks so pretty, Cant wait until they remove YSESHD from 708 and insert TBSHD in there!!!

I see what is happening. That makes sense that people thought DiscoveryTheaterHD would be leaving us, but it is going nowhere. The station will continue but the original Discovery channel will be available in HD form also with 3 others, not really News for us because we are still fighting to get VsHD (Broadwayblue I remeber you) and TBSHD for Baseball fans throughout NYC that should have both teams playing. However the other channels will be similcast stations of their SD counter parts while the Theater will continue to give true direct 1080i content that we have enjoyed since TWC started this station.

Thanks for the link Berk, it put everything in perspective.

Well they had better get moving and add VsHD by October 10th. That's our first nationally televised game (vs. the Islanders) and I'm gonna be mad as hell if they don't give us a channel that costs them nothing to air other than bandwidth which they now have plenty of. :mad:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/Rangers_tv_schedule.jsp

Also, some more disturbing news...I heard that TWC will not be offering NHL Center Ice this year. Haven't confirmed it, but I'm hoping this isn't true. Rumors had the package including the NHL Network this year, as well as a "significant" number of games in HD. :(

Well they had better get moving and add VsHD by October 10th. That's our first nationally televised game (vs. the Islanders) and I'm gonna be mad as hell if they don't give us a channel that costs them nothing to air other than bandwidth which they now have plenty of. :mad:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/Rangers_tv_schedule.jsp

Also, some more disturbing news...I heard that TWC will not be offering NHL Center Ice this year. Haven't confirmed it, but I'm hoping this isn't true. Rumors had the package including the NHL Network this year, as well as a "significant" number of games in HD. :(
I feel your pain now that TBSHD is showing the first and second round of the playoffs. Last year the Yankee games were just horrible on My9 before we got My9HD. I could just see how bad the TBS baseball coverage might be.

... Last year the Yankee games were just horrible on My9 before we got My9HD. Yes, but we didn’t have to contend with post season baseball on MY9.

I don’t think TBSHD is an issue at all. I am very confident that we will have it when the post season starts. I have no information but I would definitely take the bet.

Yes, but we didn’t have to contend with post season baseball on MY9.

I don’t think TBSHD is an issue at all. I am very confident that we will have it when the post season starts. I have no information but I would definitely take the bet.
Larry, to be honest I am with you. Deep imside I think TWC won't short change us on the Playoffs(sorry Broadway but VsHD is still a few months away) It is to big of a draw to have the many fans that have watched their teams in HD all season to give them only the SD feed. But we won't know until October so I guess we should all enjoy Premiere Week on the big 5 networks HD feeds we already get.

I'm in SI, and after seeing the list of what I have, why are there 2 YES channels? It's a waste of bandwidth.

Does any one watch Shark? I started watching this show during the summer re-runs. Not a bad show. I mis-set the time extension to only 30min on my DVR, maybe the post game after the Jets game or big broth was longer then I thought. Can anyone let me know how it ended? I missed the final 15 minutes and it was season finale from last season.

I'm in SI, and after seeing the list of what I have, why are there 2 YES channels? It's a waste of bandwidth.
From what I have read here it is just a duplicate channel. not using bandwith at all, but hopefully in Oct that channel will be changed to TBSHD. Then that question will be a would be eliminated from our minds.

I'm in SI, and after seeing the list of what I have, why are there 2 YES channels? It's a waste of bandwidth.
There are also two SNY HD channels. Same deal as YES HD: the same feed allocated to two seperate channel numbers.

Looks like it was a false alarm on TWC not carrying Center Ice. Hopefully they also include some of the games in HD each night, as well as the NHL Network. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

"Dear Mr. X:

Not sure where you are hearing that we won't be carrying it. We are in the process of finishing our contract and fully intend to carry Center Ice. Indeed, we are working with the NHL to find interesting ways to enhance the package for our customers. We have a good relationship with the NHL and are actively working with them. Please be patient.

Regards, Melinda Witmer"

Regards, Melinda Witmer"


Looks like she has no problem responding to your email.
I always get the cold shoulder!

ask about the HD channels:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328

Looks like she has no problem responding to your email.
I always get the cold shoulder!

ask about the HD channels:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328

Actually, she was responding to someone else. I emailed her today about Golf/Vs HD, and as usual, got no response. I'm 0 for 4. Maybe I'll start sending an email every day...she can't ignore me forever! ;)

Actually, she was responding to someone else. I emailed her today about Golf/Vs HD, and as usual, got no response. I'm 0 for 4. Maybe I'll start sending an email every day...she can't ignore me forever! ;)


I might as well.

we all should!!!

Weird. Tonight's Yankees game (which is still going into the bottom of the 11th after the Blu Jays blew a 4-run lead in the 9th inning) is airing in SD on WWOR-DT (OTA) but in decent HD on TWC's 709 channel. Why is My9 showing the game in HD over cable but not OTA? :confused:

I might as well.

we all should!!!


I did today...specifically about TBS-HD for the upcoming playoffs. To me, that is inexcusable.

No response as of yet.

I don’t think TBSHD is an issue at all. I am very confident that we will have it when the post season starts. I have no information but I would definitely take the bet.

Boy, I hope you're right. BUT, if they WERE going to add TBS HD in NYC, given we probably have both home teams IN the playoffs, why can't they say it? Many a time they have publicly said "New York" and it turns out they mean upstate but NOT NYC.

I was chatting with Verizion tech yesterday. He was working on my street. He has no idea when FIOS will be up and running in Queens.:( He said that the Fiber hasn’t even been run yet. :rolleyes:

He also said that it’s a good thing to petition Verizion with as many people on your block (or building) as you can. They need to hear that there is a demand. He said get people to call and ask for it.

SI is going to be sitting pretty for a while in the driver’s seat while the two giants compete for their business.

http://www.silive.com/news/advance/index.ssf?/base/news/1190539876257200.xml&coll=1

FIOS is already being offered in the Bayside area. Even if FIOS is available in all of NYC, the only thing we can subscribe to is VoIP and broadband because TWC is the only "cable" TV provider licensed to provide video services. NYC will not consider awarding Verizon a license until FIOS is available to a larger portion of NYC. Cablevision services some areas, but they are only a minor player in NYC.

Regards...JL

TNTHD has a beautiful gray screen (only sound coming through). Anyone else having this issue? I gotta look for other options.

TNTHD has a beautiful gray screen (only sound coming through). Anyone else having this issue? I gotta look for other options.


I also only get gray.

Boy, I hope you're right. BUT, if they WERE going to add TBS HD in NYC, given we probably have both home teams IN the playoffs, why can't they say it? Many a time they have publicly said "New York" and it turns out they mean upstate but NOT NYC.

Come on River, with all you distaste for TWC. How can you ask that question? If and when(being positive) we get TBSHD they make themselves look like the heroes of the community because they bailed out all the Yankee and Met fans with that last minute deal. We know the truth here, however not every NYC TWC subscriber knows about or subcsrinbes to AVS. Not do they do the deep investigating that some of us do. The other subscribers think TWC did do them a favor which puts them in a better light in their eyes. Maybe even a move that may change their minds about deflecting to FIOS TV.
If this is their plan, they are very good at this game. They aren't lying down and letting their competition take their subscribers with out a fight.

I also only get gray.
That Grey screen ran until this morning, but TNTHD was back on when Angel was on at 7am.

Looks like she has no problem responding to your email.
I always get the cold shoulder!

ask about the HD channels:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328
I don't know why you would think she would respond to a group that for the most part we are the minority of their coverage. She probably would respond better to ideas on how to increase the HD channel offering rather then a complaint of where is this channel? or where is that channel? To be honest I can see myself writing a letter that would sound like a complaint more than a request if I didn't think about and check what I send before I send it. We do need to send her letters. I agree with you there Andy. But they have to be professional and in more of a request form. Complaints get sent to the junk file and once you are there she may never receive a e-mail from you again because your e-mails are on her JUNK MAIL list. You do not want that especially since, one and all of us ARE voices of the current & future TWCHD customers. The only problem is we, as a group do need to be more vocal, but not only here. Right now I see a constant rotation about 25 people. 25 letters will not change policy especially if they were complaints. We have to listen to what LL3HD just wrote about Verizon. Exactly what he said about Verizon is what we need to do with TWC. Get petitions or letter writing campagines orginized so TWC knows that "We want our HDTV". There is power in nunbers and they can't say NO anymore. Especially since we 25 or so do know that 1)bandwith is available, 2)distribution contracts are signed, 3)some stations are free, & 4)they do want to keep us as customers.

Sent her another email. I'm going to send one a day and see what happens.

Sent her another email. I'm going to send one a day and see what happens.
Broadway, I respect your commitment. However what good is that if she places you in her junk file? You won't get anything established but sore fingers.

just sent another email from a different email acct.

that's the key every email sent-different address

I've had my cable modem on for at least 5 years straight. There's no reason to turn it off, especially if you have a router behind it.

I turn it off when not in use. It draws (i.e. wastes) a lot of power even when the computer is off. Take a look at the Amperage that it draws. Feel the warmth of the power adaptor. This is all proof that it's sucking a lot power for no reason whatsoever when you're not using the computer....

This is what's commonly known as "vampire" power usage, sort of like the way plugged-in cellphone chargers continue to suck power when your cellphone isn't plugged in; except that the draw on the cable modem seems to be a lot more.

Scott

You want me to turn my modem off every night then send me a remote.

I turn it off when not in use. It draws (i.e. wastes) a lot of power even when the computer is off. Take a look at the Amperage that it draws. Feel the warmth of the power adaptor. This is all proof that it's sucking a lot power for no reason whatsoever when you're not using the computer....

This is what's commonly known as "vampire" power usage, sort of like the way plugged-in cellphone chargers continue to suck power when your cellphone isn't plugged in; except that the draw on the cable modem seems to be a lot more.

Scott
Scott, the problem with that (the waste) is, do you really see the difference on your bill? From my understanding the only way to truly see the difference in the bill is to be totally commited to trying to save in the house. Just turning off this one item, despite it being Vamping while off, it would not make a huge impact unless you started turning off(unplugging) the other items that use power when off. Microwaves, VCR's, DVD players, any shelf or rack system, anything with a clock or stand-by and most battery chargers to name a few. If you don't do a general change in those habits then your bill won't see a substantial decrease. How much extra does the modemadd to your bill?

just sent another email from a different email acct.

that's the key every email sent-different address…And… another key thing to do is make sure that you have a good subject title. It’s like a pretty face or a good résumé. If it looks good, it’ll get you through the door. So, think of a subject title that would tweak her interest. If the email is not read it's useless.

…And… another key thing to do is make sure that you have a good subject title. It’s like a pretty face or a good résumé. If it looks good, it’ll get you through the door. So, think of a subject title that would tweak her interest. If the email is not read it's useless.
Great point Larry. You put a angry subject or just leave it blank she might automatically delete it.

I have three e-ail acconts plus my my father has one. I will send one this week and hopefully convince my father to write.

do you really see the difference on your bill? .....you started turning off(unplugging) the other items that use power when off. Microwaves, VCR's, DVD players, any shelf or rack system, anything with a clock or stand-by and most battery chargers to name a few. If you don't do a general change in those habits then your bill won't see a substantial decrease. How much extra does the modem add to your bill?As Scott said, anything that is hot like a plugged in phone charger whether in use or not would add to your bill. If you multiply that by about 10 other items like the modem, HT equipment, etc., you’ll probably save about 100 bucks a year. You decide if it's worth it.

Years ago, way before the non elected cigar store Indian started his green crusade I changed all of my incandescents with screw in fluorescents. It’s the same light output but with less power. I did it to save money and to not feel guilty about leaving lights on outside or inside of my home. It just makes sense and it does reflect on my bill. I doubt that I’ll be unplugging my modem but I do unplug phone chargers when not in use.

I turn it off when not in use. It draws (i.e. wastes) a lot of power even when the computer is off. Take a look at the Amperage that it draws. Feel the warmth of the power adaptor. This is all proof that it's sucking a lot power for no reason whatsoever when you're not using the computer....

This is what's commonly known as "vampire" power usage, sort of like the way plugged-in cellphone chargers continue to suck power when your cellphone isn't plugged in; except that the draw on the cable modem seems to be a lot more.

Scott

My computer(s) are never off. For kicks I might plug the modem into my Kill a Watt to see just how much it's costing me. But I like to hop on and off the PC throughout the day...so the computers are always on. I had toyed with the idea of powering them down at night before bed, but just decided it was easier to let them run 24/7.

As Scott said, anything that is hot like a plugged in phone charger whether in use or not would add to your bill. If you multiply that by about 10 other items like the modem, HT equipment, etc., you’ll probably save about 100 bucks a year. You decide if it's worth it.

Years ago, way before the non elected cigar store Indian started his green crusade I changed all of my incandescents with screw in fluorescents. It’s the same light output but with less power. I did it to save money and to not feel guilty about leaving lights on outside or inside of my home. It just makes sense and it does reflect on my bill. I doubt that I’ll be unplugging my modem but I do unplug phone chargers when not in use.
Yes, I know about the hot chargers but like you said you really have to add mutiple items to see the difference. As you know, In NYC we probably lose any savings during the summers months anyway.

I am like you, I tried and used the fluorescents lights for a while but they died almost as fast as the regular bulbs. I haven't given up since the prices have come down, but if I am still replacing the bulbs at the same time frame. Savings is limited to none because the fluorescent were so much more.

Andy: Thanks for that Link, but once I started reading I felt like I would be one of the many while here I feeel we have a good local group with our own concerns, NYC concerns!!
But I do feel somebody should start the fire to get them on board with an active letter campagine to TWC. We would get channels faster when TWC gets more feedback from all of their areas.

Scott, the problem with that (the waste) is, do you really see the difference on your bill?
Even if it's one cent, it's the air that I'm breathing and the water that I'm drinking that are being polluted to burn the coal, gas, or whatever to power the modem. So if I'm not using it, why should I add more pollution to the atmosphere? Over the span of years, the power that the modem is wasting will add up. And if you multiply that times the number of cable modems here in NYC, the economy of scale adds up to be a HUGE amount of wasted energy. At least I'm doing my part.

Scott

Even if it's one cent, it's the air that I'm breathing and the water that I'm drinking that are being polluted to burn the coal, gas, or whatever to power the modem. So if I'm not using it, why should I add more pollution to the atmosphere? Over the span of years, the power that the modem is wasting will add up. And if you multiply that times the number of cable modems here in NYC, the economy of scale adds up to be a HUGE amount of wasted energy. At least I'm doing my part.

Scott
TRUE!! but, in a city of millions does that one move really make you happy? Why do one if you won't commit to the other ways? In case this is read as sarcastic, I am sorry, I am just asking. You see what I am saying, that penny a month(it is much more than that) while millions of others don't care, will not help this doomed world.

TRUE!! but, in a city of millions does that one move really make you happy? Why do one if you won't commit to the other ways? In case this is read as sarcastic, I am sorry, I am just asking. You see what I am saying, that penny a month(it is much more than that) while millions of others don't care, will not help this doomed world.

And how do you know that I am not committed to other ways of saving energy?

This particular issue did just happen to come up here and is just one of the things that we all can do to do our part to help without any real drawback -- just a little extra effort of adding a power strip to turn off the cable modem and then flipping it whenever you shut the computer down. If you don't shut your computer down, well, that's a much bigger power suck than the modem (which draws a surprising amount of power on its own).

Scott

TRUE!! but, in a city of millions does that one move really make you happy? ... while millions of others don't care, will not help this doomed world.I think that’s the point. If everyone does their own little bit regardless of how small, it will (especially in a city of millions as you pointed out) add up and make a difference. Of course it’s important for everyone everywhere (China) to refocus on the big picture but it has to start somewhere. Now I’m off to churn some butter. :p

And how do you know that I am not committed to other ways of saving energy?

This particular issue did just happen to come up here and is just one of the things that we all can do to do our part to help without any real drawback -- just a little extra effort of adding a power strip to turn off the cable modem and then flipping it whenever you shut the computer down. If you don't shut your computer down, well, that's a much bigger power suck than the modem (which draws a surprising amount of power on its own).

Scott
I really don't know what you do, that is why I asked and also wrote the disclaimer to make sure you know I wasn't just asking you, just call me curious. We do need to do everything that was said here today and then some. But environmental cause aside. My main point was the savings is minimal and not really noticable on our bills unless bigger changes were done. Who would really care about that hot modem if they really didn't care in the first place?

I really don't know what you do, that is why I asked and also wrote the disclaimer to make sure you know I wasn't just asking you, just call me curious. We do need to do everything that was said here today and then some. But environmental cause aside. My main point was the savings is minimal and not really noticable on our bills unless bigger changes were done. Who would really care about that hot modem if they really didn't care in the first place?
Well, there is one other cool little thing that we all could do in regards to our cable boxes & TVs -- the 8300HD has a power outlet in the back. The box has a setting (in the advanced settings) to set the A/C outlet so that it powers on only when the box is on. Then if you plug your TV into it, it prevents any power from going to the TV. This prevents the TV from sucking power even when it's off (which they all do, I believe). Then you use the 8300 power switch becomes your TV power switch as well. When you turn the cable box on or off, you TV will do the same on its own. (Well, at least mine does).

And changing the power settings on your computer so that it goes to sleep after some period of time (30 minutes? 1 hour? 90 minutes?) could make a huge difference. The power settings can put the display, hard disk and main CPU to sleep after a specified amount of time (in fact, all 3 are individually configurable) when the computer is not in use. I find settings of 15 minutes for the display, 30 minutes for the hard disk, and 1 hour for the main CPU to be OK for me. And when you come back to the computer and start typing on the keyboard, it wakes back up again automatically.

Scott

AI doubt that I’ll be unplugging my modem but I do unplug phone chargers when not in use.
One idea for people -- plug those phone chargers into a power strip and just turn the power strip off when they're done (or not) charging.......

Ok, I just got my very very expensive cable bill.

here is what it says regarding channel changes as of 10/15, besides what we already know:

Discovery HD from 718 to 766
Universal HD from 740 to 716
WNJN SD from 750 to 165
& HSN 39 will be only avlible with a digital box. (that means analog HSN is history)

Ok, I just got my very very expensive cable bill.

here is what it says regarding channel changes as of 10/15, besides what we already know:

Discovery HD from 718 to 766
Universal HD from 740 to 716
WNJN SD from 750 to 165
& HSN 39 will be only avlible with a digital box. (that means analog HSN is history)

So that brings our total available bandwidth up to 10-15 more HD channels. Not that they'll hook us up with all of them, but there's still plenty of room.

So that brings our total available bandwidth up to 10-15 more HD channels. Not that they'll hook us up with all of them, but there's still plenty of room.

not really.

we did or are going to loose 4 premium analog channels.
then HSN analog is gone.
that brings us to 5 analog channels freed up.
then Fox Biz gets added to 43 which I believe will take up 1 analog slot.
so we're back to 4 analogs gone.

not really.

we did or are going to loose 4 premium analog channels.
then HSN analog is gone.
that brings us to 5 analog channels freed up.
then Fox Biz gets added to 43 which I believe will take up 1 analog slot.
so we're back to 4 analogs gone.

You've got to be kidding me? Why on earth would they ADD more analog channels at this point in the game? I thought the whole goal was to eliminate all the analog channels and require everyone to get a digital box.

You've got to be kidding me? Why on earth would they ADD more analog channels at this point in the game? I thought the whole goal was to eliminate all the analog channels and require everyone to get a digital box.

$$$ talks my friend.
I'm sure Fox paid a couple of mill for that here in NY, that channel is launching on digital everywhere else.

You've got to be kidding me? Why on earth would they ADD more analog channels at this point in the game? I thought the whole goal was to eliminate all the analog channels and require everyone to get a digital box.

They're replacing one with another.... not 'so' bad

The MLB playoffs begin next week- has anyone heard anything about adding TBS-HD to the channel lineup?

Some people here have mentioned seeing a gray screen- I haven't even seen TBS-HD in the guide.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

NYC will not consider awarding Verizon a license until FIOS is available to a larger portion of NYC.

Regards...JL

If true, this seems to be huge news. Last I heard, the question was going to be addressed this fall... and the anticipation was that they would get their TV franchise.

Could you possibly give us some more info on the how you got this info? It sure as hell could be part of a disinformation campaign TWC might be playing with...

I turn it off when not in use. It draws (i.e. wastes) a lot of power even when the computer is off. Take a look at the Amperage that it draws. Feel the warmth of the power adaptor. This is all proof that it's sucking a lot power for no reason whatsoever when you're not using the computer....

This is what's commonly known as "vampire" power usage, sort of like the way plugged-in cellphone chargers continue to suck power when your cellphone isn't plugged in; except that the draw on the cable modem seems to be a lot more.

Scott

Boy is that ever true! ALL of my computer gear runs from one 15 amp circuit and shutting everything down yields a constant 36 watts from the power bricks. I also discovered that with my A/C off, it STILL draws 2 watts constantly.

Indeed both are not earth shattering, but all those 2-3 and 25 watts add up.

AND I can't promote enough that all of you should get a Kill-A-Watt, it is that eye-opening a device to let you know exactly where your power dollar is going. Based on it's findings, my largest ConEd bill this summer was 60 bucks LESS than my biggest one last summer.

You've got to be kidding me? Why on earth would they ADD more analog channels at this point in the game? I thought the whole goal was to eliminate all the analog channels and require everyone to get a digital box.
From my understaning is that it is an added digital channel, Analog channels are being eliminated. Remember a lower number doesn't mean it only can broadcast in analog anymore. So in turn this should be an added channel to the Fox digital family. This move brings it closer to the other Fox networks and I wouldn't be surprised if TWC isn't in the works to bring all the Fox nets together like they did for NBC Universal.

The MLB playoffs begin next week- has anyone heard anything about adding TBS-HD to the channel lineup?

Some people here have mentioned seeing a gray screen- I haven't even seen TBS-HD in the guide.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

gray screen = TNT HD over the weekend - nothing to do with TBS-HD

We're still waiting for some news on that..........

My computer(s) are never off. For kicks I might plug the modem into my Kill a Watt to see just how much it's costing me. But I like to hop on and off the PC throughout the day...so the computers are always on. I had toyed with the idea of powering them down at night before bed, but just decided it was easier to let them run 24/7.

I used to be a 24/7 with all my computer equipment. I knew I paid more, but never actually quantified it with numbers. My Kill-A-Watt changed all that. I was running about 220 Kw-hrs w/ 24/7 and now only turning it on when I used it, I'm running about 80-90 per month. BIG difference!

From my understaning is that it is an added digital channel, Analog channels are being eliminated. Remember a lower number doesn't mean it only can broadcast in analog anymore. So in turn this should be an added channel to the Fox digital family. This move brings it closer to the other Fox networks and I wouldn't be surprised if TWC isn't in the works to bring all the Fox nets together like they did for NBC Universal.

Its been reported that Fox Biz Channel was getting an Analog spot.

That's what he's talking about.

(but it is getting the Analog spot of HSN..... so 'technically' no big deal....)

I also discovered that with my A/C off, it STILL draws 2 watts constantly.

Really, Why is that? Is it touchpad or knob controled? I am surprised to read this. I assum the touchpads would have some power but not a knob oreiented A/C.

TRUE!! but, in a city of millions does that one move really make you happy? Why do one if you won't commit to the other ways? In case this is read as sarcastic, I am sorry, I am just asking. You see what I am saying, that penny a month(it is much more than that) while millions of others don't care, will not help this doomed world.

First, you might get your eyes opened by splurging 25 bucks on a Kill-A-Watt. Yes, for every guy like Scott or I there are probably 2-3 that waste power with wild abandon. Doesn't change the fact that he and I are actually doing what we may preach about. PLUS I can only tell you that since I have actually paid attention to electric use, I HAVE lowered my bill by 20% or so AND when I replace my frig, it will go down by up to 30% more. All from KNOWING what was taking up what amount of kilowatts/hour.

If true, this seems to be huge news. Last I heard, the question was going to be addressed this fall... and the anticipation was that they would get their TV franchise.

Could you possibly give us some more info on the how you got this info? It sure as hell could be part of a disinformation campaign TWC might be playing with...

I am with you River I would like to hear more about it. Remember back in April someone here told us to check a channel in the 1000's and it was TWC claiming what they expect will happen when Verizon starts FIOS TV in the NYC region. Didn't that report expect Verizon to get the agreement in June. It is now Sept 25 and we still haven't heard anything and if you really search there has been no word on Verizon actually submitting in the request yet. To add to that Verizon hasn't exactly rushed to get wiring installed. From feed back here, we still know Manhattan is still untouched and the areas that had in in Queens back in April are still the only ones that have it Available now. I think Flushing may have been the added area.

The MLB playoffs begin next week- has anyone heard anything about adding TBS-HD to the channel lineup?

Some people here have mentioned seeing a gray screen- I haven't even seen TBS-HD in the guide.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Some exec was quoted as saying TBS-HD would come to "New York" later in October (other areas were listed as "by October" as opposed to "later in October"). In TWCspeak, that means NOT in NYC. And I think by late October, the first round would be over.

While they COULD surprise the hell out of us, my feeling is that if they WOULD make sure both out 2 home teams would be covered (in HD) they would have SAID so. Not saying means we get to see the first round in SD.

I think Flushing may have been the added area.Nothing in Flushing, only small parts of Bayside, around the Bell Blvd. area including Bay Terrace have FIOS. This perhaps is because Verizion has a main office or facility there.

Its been reported that Fox Biz Channel was getting an Analog spot.

That's what he's talking about.

(but it is getting the Analog spot of HSN..... so 'technically' no big deal....)
Berk, that is why I am curious. It is getting the spot, but who are we to say that TWC didn't turn off the analog location when they moved the previous occupant unless we get confirmation from TWC themselves. (we know how hard that is) It is my understanding that once DTV was available. TWC converted all the feeds they can to a digital signal to be read by our digital boxes. (which some have said here and TWCinsider claimed the most recent) The analog signal as well as the digital signal was still run over the same cable but was only able to be opened by the old analog boxes that the majority of us still had back then, Once DTV is issued to 100% of it's current subsrcibers (new subscribers can't get analog service)TWC can shut down their analog signal transmittion for good. Am I seeing this the wrong way.

Nothing in Flushing, only small parts of Bayside, around the Bell Blvd. area including Bay Terrace have FIOS. This perhaps is because Verizion has a main office or facility there.
Really, that is horrible. They said bayside, freshmedows, and Far Rockaway were the main 3 areas that are hooked up. Have you asked any Verizon guys by you, when? I know by me they look at me like I am talking French. At a min I would change my Verizon DSL to Verizon FIOS when it is by me. I will make my Father check if it is available by him. He is in Beachhurst.

... freshmedows, and Far Rockaway were the main 3 areas that are hooked up. This could be true. I was referring to what I was familiar with in my immediate area. :) We are not on a good diet here in Flushing. We are fiberless.:p

... Have you asked any Verizon guys by you, when?
As I mentioned recently, I did ask the Verizon tech working on my block and he didn’t have anything to offer except advising to continue to hound them.

Some exec was quoted as saying TBS-HD would come to "New York" later in October (other areas were listed as "by October" as opposed to "later in October"). In TWCspeak, that means NOT in NYC. And I think by late October, the first round would be over.

While they COULD surprise the hell out of us, my feeling is that if they WOULD make sure both out 2 home teams would be covered (in HD) they would have SAID so. Not saying means we get to see the first round in SD.
Come on River keep the faith, we still have 6 full days.
I can see the press release already:

TWC cares, millions of the American Pastime fans were saved today when TWC anounced that effective Oct 1st every Time Warner Cable system within the continental USA will be broadcasting TBSHD, TBSHD won the contract to broadcast the 1st and 2nd round of the MLB playoffs. TWC did not have TBSHD in major cities like Los Angeles, Chcago and NYC all of which will have a team playing for the World Series championship. NYC would have had the largest unhappy fan base because they have both of their teams heading to the playoffs. TWC subscirbers in NYC have been one of the most fortunate, the majority of both teams games were broadcast in High Definition this year.
TWC rep, "We just wanted to make sure we make our MLB fans happy by giving them the plyoffs in HD so we advanced out plans for TBDHD to accommodate these fans."


I can't wait for this letter, or News report. I still have my fingers crossed.

This could be true. I was referring to what I was familiar with in my immediate area. :) We are not on a good diet here in Flushing. We are fiberless.:p
I am on the same bad diet in Ozone Park/ Richmond Hill area.

As I mentioned recently, I did ask the Verizon tech working on my block and he didn’t have anything to offer except advising to continue to hound them.
That was you, my fault. I knew someone mentioned it but didn't remember who
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Berk, that is why I am curious. It is getting the spot, but who are we to say that TWC didn't turn off the analog location when they moved the previous occupant unless we get confirmation from TWC themselves. (we know how hard that is) It is my understanding that once DTV was available. TWC converted all the feeds they can to a digital signal to be read by our digital boxes. (which some have said here and TWCinsider claimed the most recent) The analog signal as well as the digital signal was still run over the same cable but was only able to be opened by the old analog boxes that the majority of us still had back then, Once DTV is issued to 100% of it's current subsrcibers (new subscribers can't get analog service)TWC can shut down their analog signal transmittion for good. Am I seeing this the wrong way.

Well, I'm a new subscriber and a CR told me a week ago that I would get analog service only. So or they misinform people or they still sell analog service without any concern about future.

The MLB playoffs begin next week- has anyone heard anything about adding TBS-HD to the channel lineup?

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Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Do us a favor to keep the pressure on and maybe we will get TBS-HD for the playoffs, per AndyHDTV:

Email Melinda Witmer at TWC Corporate, the SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT & CHIEF PROGRAMMING OFFICER if you want more HD Channels!!!
Melinda.Witmer@twcable.com

Not that I'm holding my breath, but I did send her one late last week. :rolleyes:

Do us a favor to keep the pressure on and maybe we will get TBS-HD for the playoffs, per AndyHDTV:

Email Melinda Witmer at TWC Corporate, the SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT & CHIEF PROGRAMMING OFFICER if you want more HD Channels!!!
Melinda.Witmer@twcable.com

Not that I'm holding my breath, but I did send her one late last week. :rolleyes:

I sent her another email this morning...still nothing.

Well, there is one other cool little thing that we all could do in regards to our cable boxes & TVs -- the 8300HD has a power outlet in the back. The box has a setting (in the advanced settings) to set the A/C outlet so that it powers on only when the box is on. Then if you plug your TV into it, it prevents any power from going to the TV. This prevents the TV from sucking power even when it's off (which they all do, I believe). Then you use the 8300 power switch becomes your TV power switch as well. When you turn the cable box on or off, you TV will do the same on its own. (Well, at least mine does).

And changing the power settings on your computer so that it goes to sleep after some period of time (30 minutes? 1 hour? 90 minutes?) could make a huge difference. The power settings can put the display, hard disk and main CPU to sleep after a specified amount of time (in fact, all 3 are individually configurable) when the computer is not in use. I find settings of 15 minutes for the display, 30 minutes for the hard disk, and 1 hour for the main CPU to be OK for me. And when you come back to the computer and start typing on the keyboard, it wakes back up again automatically.

Scott

Excellent stuff, Scott...thanks for that. I just plugged the plasma into the 8300, and it's working exactly as advertised. I also plugged the cell charger thingie into one of those multiple outlet boxes, and will switch it on and off as needed. Good ideas! :)

has anyone gotten an external drive to work with the 8300HDC running navigator? if so, can you please post the specifics (e.g. make, model, etc.) and any problems you have (e.g. trick play problems)?

Thanks..

Do us a favor to keep the pressure on and maybe we will get TBS-HD for the playoffs, per AndyHDTV:

Email Melinda Witmer at TWC Corporate, the SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT & CHIEF PROGRAMMING OFFICER if you want more HD Channels!!!
Melinda.Witmer@twcable.com

Not that I'm holding my breath, but I did send her one late last week. :rolleyes:
I sent Melinda.Witmer@twcable.com another email about adding TBS-HD.

I will be very annoyed if I have to watch the playoffs in crappy 4:3 standard def. Especially after watching it in HD for the past several years.

Excellent stuff, Scott...thanks for that. I just plugged the plasma into the 8300, and it's working exactly as advertised. I also plugged the cell charger thingie into one of those multiple outlet boxes, and will switch it on and off as needed. Good ideas! :)


Will it still power on with the remote? How much savings are we talking about, if you do that and set the computer to hybernate?