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LL3HD

10-05-07, 12:14 PM

It wasn't easy making sure I didn't miss anything.The War was one of those shows that I knew would have to be recorded and watched ASAP or else I’d be screwed. I managed to stay one day behind. It was a great documentary but what a chore it was to watch mainly because of the episodes length and-- the emotional drain that came with each one. I wish they would have spaced it out, or at least started it a few weeks ago. I finally got a decent night sleep last night. ;)

heinriph

10-05-07, 01:21 PM

I wish we could add storage without losing pause and rewind on live TV...

If you go to your local TWC office, you can trade in your 8300HD (along with your soul and your sanity) and walk out with an 8300HDC, with the new Navigator software.

Apparently the external storage works fine on that, trick play and all. Of course, little else works well.

Nyttyinnyc and LL3HD, if you think storage management is a headache with Passport, you should (not!) try Navigator. It has a neat little 'fuel gauge' that tells you you have e.g. 49% free space left - and then rejects your next recording with a 'disk full' message. And you won't get any of those "one day left" warnings either - anything not nailed down gets zapped when you turn your back.

(actually, re-reading LL3HD, it sounds like you might have it already)

scott_bernstein

10-05-07, 01:22 PM

Another example of bitrate shaping from TWC-NYC -- I recorded a movie 2 nights ago from Cinemax-HD ("El Aura", a Spanish crime drama, amazingly presented in OAR!) -- it was 2hr 15min long. Just a few months back, I would have expected a movie that was 135 minutes to take up between 12 & 15 Gig of space. After I removed it last night, I only reclaimed slightly less than 9G of space. This is more than a 1/3 reduction.....

My old formula was to expect an HD program to take up approx. 6G/hr of space, so 2.25 hours of programming would be about 15G.

What was lost, I can hardly say since there was no fast motion or anything that would suffer from motion blur in this one.

NOTE: I believe that the 6G/hr estimate is what Passport uses to determine if you have enough space to record a program. This formula is apparently what it will also use to determine how many programs it needs to remove to record something new. It generally doesn't like to let the "free space" go below 6G of free space, so if you want to record something that is 2 hours long, make sure that you have 18G (or so) of free space. You can check the space remaning yourself in the diagnostic mode and make sure you delete enough stuff by hand to get the new stuff you want to record.

Some channels (CBS-HD in particular -- I frequently get 7G recordings of Letterman shows) can have MORE than 6G/hr of throughput, which can occasionally lead to the end of a program recorded on that channel being chopped off if you are low on space.

As a comparison, SD channels generally take up to 1G/hr (sometimes a lot less, sometimes a bit more).

ONE MORE NOTE: If you are trying to record 2 things at once, Passport requires a LOT more space for the 2nd program to begin -- it doesn't say "OK, I am recording 2 one hour HD programs -- do I have 12G avail?" Not sure how it figures out the space requirements when it's recording 2 programs at once.

So, it might remove a bunch more programs when you're trying to record 2 things at once than it would remove if you were recording the same 2 things in sequence.

LL3HD

10-05-07, 01:34 PM

try Navigator....(actually, re-reading LL3HD, it sounds like you might have it already) No, fortunately I am still Passport.

Anything I record I set up as “save until manually erased” because I’ve been burned too many times. Those days with that “sand clock” spilling away, scaring me like Dorothy, are long gone.

My box has its idiosyncrasies but I’ve learned to live with them.

freeurbody

10-05-07, 01:44 PM

LL3HD

10-05-07, 01:49 PM

...so if you want to record something that is 2 hours long, make sure that you have 18G (or so) of free space.. I think the buffer will be eating up space too. I always try and clear a “to be recorded tuner” prior to recording.

Berk32

10-05-07, 02:21 PM

I just went in to upgrade my cable to HDTV and they gave me a Pioneer 3510. After examining the box, I asked the guy why it didn't have HDMI. He says its because I live in Queens. Is this true? Do Manhattan people get newer boxes, as opposed to Queens and Brooklyn customers. I mean I don't have a HDMI capable receiver so I was going to use composite and digital coaxial, but is there a newer HDTV cable box I can ask for? I don't want DVR. I went to the TWC on 23rd St. TIA

LOL 'because you live in Queens'???

gotta love those TWC guys.....

Sorry.... i just thought that was really funny.

I believe your box has a DVI output - and you can get a DVI-HDMI cable anywhere - but unlike HDMI - it only sends video - you'll need separate audio cables... but if you plan on using a separate speaker system - then it works out anyways.

I've have the SA8300 DVR for over 2 years - and I've actually had to use an HDMI-DVI cable - as my TV only has a DVI input - the video transfer is exactly the same.

NYFOOTBALLGIANTS

10-05-07, 02:28 PM

Hmmm so I can really go down and just swap boxes that easily... Is navigator really that bad? Sorry a bit of a newbie with cable DVR's

nuttyinnyc

10-05-07, 02:36 PM

The War was one of those shows that I knew would have to be recorded and watched ASAP or else I’d be screwed. I managed to stay one day behind. It was a great documentary but what a chore it was to watch mainly because of the episodes length and-- the emotional drain that came with each one. I wish they would have spaced it out, or at least started it a few weeks ago. I finally got a decent night sleep last night. ;)
PM me with your opinion about the show, It seems like something I would be interested in watching, Not during the regular season, of course, but something to keep in mind ofr if I do see the play back.

NYFOOTBALLGIANTS

10-05-07, 02:41 PM

It is surprisingly already out on DVD as well.

LL3HD

10-05-07, 02:45 PM

It seems like something I would be interested in watching,.It was great. It’s not an actual complete time line or history of the war but it covers all of the main events following four towns in America and how they were affected by the war from start to finish. Check it out.:cool:

nuttyinnyc

10-05-07, 02:45 PM

Nyttyinnyc and LL3HD, if you think storage management is a headache with Passport, you should (not!) try Navigator. It has a neat little 'fuel gauge' that tells you you have e.g. 49% free space left - and then rejects your next recording with a 'disk full' message. And you won't get any of those "one day left" warnings either - anything not nailed down gets zapped when you turn your back.

(actually, re-reading LL3HD, it sounds like you might have it already)

With the complaints posted here I rather wait until TWC gets Navigator right before changing my box. Plus I rather lose stuff I have remaining instead of not being able to record scheduled recording because if I didn't rush to see that last show that gets eliminated that means it wasn't a show that I HAD to see.

nuttyinnyc

10-05-07, 02:52 PM

It was great. It’s not an actual complete time line or history of the war but it covers all of the main events following four towns in America and how they were affected by the war from start to finish. Check it out.:cool:
I think I remember that, it isn't new. It has been on a while but I think because it is so long I have avoided it.

scott_bernstein

10-05-07, 03:07 PM

I think the buffer will be eating up space too. I always try and clear a “to be recorded tuner” prior to recording.

Nope -- the buffer is not included in this assessment. The buffer is not included in the "AVFS" free space listing. It has its own partition.

Scott

LL3HD

10-05-07, 06:26 PM

Nope -- the buffer is not included in this assessment. The buffer is not included in the "AVFS" free space listing. It has its own partition.That’s interesting.

What do you think of this situation?

I have no series recordings. I have about 3 hours of HD and 3 hours of SD on the DVR at all times. I usually float about 7 hours of HD “future” or “live” recordings. As an example, I’ll set up an HD sporting event for 5 hours and I’ll record an HD two-hour show while watching something else. The problem is I’ll occasionally get that warning- you don’t have enough disc space.

I am a very judicious delete-er. I always delete before scheduling a recording but I never know when I’m going to get that warning. The only way to be sure that my DVR and me are on the same page (without going into diagnostic mode) is by rebooting.

scott_bernstein

10-05-07, 06:45 PM

That’s interesting.

What do you think of this situation?

I have no series recordings. I have about 3 hours of HD and 3 hours of SD on the DVR at all times. I usually float about 7 hours of HD “future” or “live” recordings. As an example, I’ll set up an HD sporting event for 5 hours and I’ll record an HD two-hour show while watching something else. The problem is I’ll occasionally get that warning- you don’t have enough disc space.

I am a very judicious delete-er. I always delete before scheduling a recording but I never know when I’m going to get that warning. The only way to be sure that my DVR and me are on the same page (without going into diagnostic mode) is by rebooting.
It's hard to say unless you go into the diagnostic mode and see how much disc space it says you have left. That's the only way you can answer the question about whether you have enough space or not.

If you are recording only one show, you must use the following formula to determine how much free space you need (in Gigabytes):
6 + (6 * number of hours you want to record)

It will occasionally allow you to get by with *very slightly* less free space, but that is rare.

If you are recording 2 shows at once, this formula goes out the window. I haven't yet figured out how it determines how much space it needs when you're trying to tape 2 things at once. Some times it seems to want to *double* what the 2nd show requires, possibly yielding something like this:
6 + (6 * number of hours you want to record for the first program) + (12 * number of hours you want to record the 2nd program)

The odd thing is that if your first recording ends before the 2nd one does, and you are tuned to the correct channel on the 2nd tuner, it will immediately start recording (from the beginning, if it's still in the buffer) the entire 2nd program that it didn't think it had space for before!

The whole Scientific Atlanta DVR/Passport combo sure has a lot of voodoo involved. :rolleyes:

Scott

realdeal1115

10-05-07, 06:52 PM

Anyone watching the Yankees game on TBS-HD.... does the picture look odd to anyone or is it just me?? I'm not real sure how to explain it except that it has the look of a movie.

?

LL3HD

10-05-07, 07:21 PM

...go into the diagnostic mode and see how much disc space it says you have left...
....The whole Scientific Atlanta DVR/Passport combo sure has a lot of voodoo involved. :rolleyes::cool: Thanks… again.

I guess I’ll start jumping into the diagnostic screen and do some experimenting. One thing I’ll do is a before and after to verify whether I get more space after re-booting. I’d like to see if there’s any pattern to it.

LL3HD

10-05-07, 07:31 PM

Anyone watching the Yankees game on TBS-HD.... does the picture look odd to anyone or is it just me?? I'm not real sure how to explain it except that it has the look of a movie. I’m about 90 minutes behind on DVR delay and I don’t see anything unusual picture quality wise. Maybe because it’s twilight and the lighting is a little off?

I’d like to grab that ornery looking old Cleveland fan sitting behind the Yankees dugout and knock his hat off. I’ve seen him over the years sitting there. What a tool that guy is. If you don’t know who I’m talking about, he obnoxiously changes his hat just about every inning. And they’re usually all bright fluorescent colors.

Riverside_Guy

10-06-07, 10:08 AM

Was noodling around... VERY curious! First I use speakeasy.net for speed testing. I got some very interesting results this morning. From all west coast servers (LA, SF, & Seattle) I got the expected 6600-6700 speeds (the best our 7Mb/s service can muster).

BUT from all closer servers (NY, Chi, Dallas, Atlanta) guess what? I got consistent results, running around 9700.

Seems that they might have slip streamed 10MB/s service on us. Of course, up speed was same, around 480 kb/s. As I remember the move to 7 Mb/s service, they ran it for 2 months, rolled back to 5, then a month or so later went to 7. So it may be a while before it's 9700 all across the country, but is a positive sign. Too bad it doesn't also involve taking upload to 786k!

Riverside_Guy

10-06-07, 10:14 AM

With the complaints posted here I rather wait until TWC gets Navigator right before changing my box. Plus I rather lose stuff I have remaining instead of not being able to record scheduled recording because if I didn't rush to see that last show that gets eliminated that means it wasn't a show that I HAD to see.

At some point, they will force Nagivator on our 8300HDs. I sure as hell wish we'd get a weeks notice so I can run out all the recordings (there are more than one post about how recordings got deleted with a Nagivator d/l). At that point, I'm heading to 23rd street for a HDC box.

AndyHDTV

10-06-07, 11:00 AM

Called up a CSR about some random issues and asked about the service contract. And I was able to get it dispite being in Manhattan.

I opted for 5%.

ALL-IN-ONE TRIPLE PLAY $123.45
PREMIUMS W/ON DEMAND (4) $28.45
HDXTRA COMBO PACK $14.25
ADDITIONAL HD-DVR BOX $9.64
ADDITIONAL DIGITAL BOX $9.64
DVR SERVICE $8.50
VOICE MAIL 1 $3.76

Total for all products: $0.00 $197.69
Grand Total: $197.69*

LL3HD

10-06-07, 11:08 AM

I opted for 5%.
Grand Total: $197.69*Living in Queens and having the option of FIOS probably sooner than Manhattan and also having the luxury of going with a dish—there’s no way I will lock into a 5 or 10% deal. I’ll lock in for up to 5 years if they want me to but I have to see a lot more on the table. Let’ start with a minimum of 20% for two and add on with time.

AndyHDTV

10-06-07, 11:42 AM

Oh yeah, the CSR told me that effective Oct 1st, standard roadrunner service is 10Mbps.

AndyHDTV

10-06-07, 12:10 PM

newsflash........

Dispite the service "K" being on TWC's website for manhattan. I got a phone call from the CSR and she said that the "K" was applied in error. She said that it wasn't yet avalible for manhattan. Instead she gave me a deal. I will be saving 30 bucks off my bill for the next 12 months. not counting that fact that I will get hbo/max free for a month, and sho/starz free for 3 months.

still made out like a bandit!

ZMike

10-06-07, 12:19 PM

broadwayblue

10-06-07, 01:27 PM

No improvement for my Mindspring/Earthlink speeds, tests just averaged 6550/480. My Toshiba PCX2200 modem is several years old...would I benefit by swapping it out at TWC?

abc5

10-06-07, 08:14 PM

broadwayblue

10-06-07, 10:30 PM

TravKoolBreeze

10-06-07, 10:37 PM

qbbraveheart

10-06-07, 11:26 PM

wait!??!

what channel is TBSHD

i was looking for the Yankee game in HD the other night since it was on TBS

I have a POS Samsung 3050

ITS HORRIBLE!!!

it hangs sometimes
takes forever for the channel to change sometimes
also for the TV Listings to load up as well

and anyone else have audio issues when they hook it up via HDMI
the volume was way tooo low
and i had my tv volume on 100

Berk32

10-06-07, 11:35 PM

wait!??!

what channel is TBSHD

i was looking for the Yankee game in HD the other night since it was on TBS

I have a POS Samsung 4250

ITS HORRIBLE!!!

it hangs sometimes
takes forever for the channel to change sometimes
also for the TV Listings to load up as well

and anyone else have audio issues when they hook it up via HDMI
the volume was way tooo low
and i had my tv volume on 100

708 for NYC.

You need to reboot your box if your 708 is still YES

surfinusa88

10-06-07, 11:40 PM

My Toshiba went belly up a few weeks ago. Swapped it for a Motorola and voila....10mbs in Staten Island

abc5

10-07-07, 12:52 AM

4250HD can do 1080p?

Berk32

10-07-07, 01:09 AM

4250HD can do 1080p?

....

There is no such thing as a 1080p television signal.... nor will there ever be.
(only 720p and 1080i - which all current HD boxes handle just fine)

MarkinNY

10-07-07, 10:20 AM

i just gave back my SA 3250 and told TW i need a HD box w/ HDMI. They gave me a SA 4250 HDC...

anyway, i wasn't expecting my service to change, but it seemed that when i got home, the food network no longer worked nor did the speed channel... on the other hand, tons of movie channels i'm not paying for are working... i've seen this thing before and they'll probably sort this out...

but i don't think i've read much about the SA 4250hdc... i thought they were giving out the 8300HD?

That's normal. It can take up to a few days until they program your new box, in the meantime the box is open except for VOD. I received the new SA 4250 box last week in Queens and could not get it to work consistantly w/HDMI. After I swapped it for a Samsung 3050 box it works fine now.

playrink

10-07-07, 01:06 PM

Anyone have info when VersusHD will appear in Manh. Think I read somewhere that TW Buff had it for NHL playoffs last year . Next week's Ranger game would be perfect timing.

Berk32

10-07-07, 01:20 PM

Anyone have info when VersusHD will appear in Manh. Think I read somewhere that TW Buff had it for NHL playoffs last year . Next week's Ranger game would be perfect timing.

You should read the thread a little back (just the last few pages)...

Many of us are begging for it...

AndyHDTV

10-07-07, 02:08 PM

Anyone have info when VersusHD will appear in Manh. Think I read somewhere that TW Buff had it for NHL playoffs last year . Next week's Ranger game would be perfect timing.

this is the guy that has the power to flip the switch in NYC!!!
try sending the same email to him.

Bob Watson

VP Programming & New Business Development

Time Warner Cable of NY & NJ

120 East 23rd Street

New York, NY 10010

212-598-7363 | Fax: 212-364-9810

Email: bob.watson@twcable.com

playrink

10-07-07, 02:12 PM

You should read the thread a little back (just the last few pages)...

Many of us are begging for it...

I see what u mean...something more effective than begging would be nice. Also want FSNY HD.

playrink

10-07-07, 02:17 PM

AndyHDTV: email to Bob forthcoming - any special phrasing suggestions?

qbbraveheart

10-07-07, 07:29 PM

That's normal. It can take up to a few days until they program your new box, in the meantime the box is open except for VOD. I received the new SA 4250 box last week in Queens and could not get it to work consistantly w/HDMI. After I swapped it for a Samsung 3050 box it works fine now.
hmmm
I have this box and I too might suspect a problem with the HDMI port...

I had my box connected to my HDTV via HDMI and the volume was VERY low
I had the TV volume on 100 and it sounded like it was on 35

Im going to swap it out for a DVR box hopefully it works fine now :)

winternj

10-08-07, 09:30 AM

No improvement for my Mindspring/Earthlink speeds, tests just averaged 6550/480. My Toshiba PCX2200 modem is several years old...would I benefit by swapping it out at TWC?

Did you reboot your cablemodem? Also, I've *heard* that for now this is only for "RR" customers and not Earthlink customers, but either way, try rebooting your cablemodem then try again. I had to reboot mine to go from 10/768 to 20/1Mbps

Was noodling around... VERY curious! First I use speakeasy.net for speed testing. I got some very interesting results this morning. From all west coast servers (LA, SF, & Seattle) I got the expected 6600-6700 speeds (the best our 7Mb/s service can muster).

BUT from all closer servers (NY, Chi, Dallas, Atlanta) guess what? I got consistent results, running around 9700.

Seems that they might have slip streamed 10MB/s service on us. Of course, up speed was same, around 480 kb/s. As I remember the move to 7 Mb/s service, they ran it for 2 months, rolled back to 5, then a month or so later went to 7. So it may be a while before it's 9700 all across the country, but is a positive sign. Too bad it doesn't also involve taking upload to 786k!

The reason you are seeing slower speeds from farther away server is because of what is called the "bandwidth delay product". TWC has no ability to, nor would they want to, make speeds from farther away cities slower than from closer cities -- you are just maxing out the download speed capable with your given twc receive window.
maximum download speed = tcp window (lower of send on sending side or receive on receiving side) / latency
For example, a 64KB window and 100ms of latency will limit you to 640KB/sec, no matter what the cablemodem cap is set to, until you raise your tcp receive window (and hope servers you surf have higher send windows)

You may want to check out this web page to see what your current settings are:
http://www.speedguide.net:8080/

And this tool to make changes:
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

trublu

10-08-07, 09:34 AM

Gooddog

10-08-07, 10:11 AM

TWC Hudson valley is advertizing the $79.99 standard Triple Play package in the THR Sunday edition. I called a few months ago to add voice and the rep changed my package to the Triple Play Premium for $99 a month.

Dossier

10-08-07, 10:13 AM

For the past 2 weeks, Starz and HD net freeze up,making them imossible to record. HBO &SHO are fine. Is this problem unique to me in NYC on TW HD?

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 10:25 AM

i just gave back my SA 3250 and told TW i need a HD box w/ HDMI. They gave me a SA 4250 HDC...

anyway, i wasn't expecting my service to change, but it seemed that when i got home, the food network no longer worked nor did the speed channel... on the other hand, tons of movie channels i'm not paying for are working... i've seen this thing before and they'll probably sort this out...

but i don't think i've read much about the SA 4250hdc... i thought they were giving out the 8300HD?
This is a normal occurance when you set up a new box direct from TW, your box will go back to normal, Just enjoy all the free movie from the premium channels that you can. It usually resets itself to back to normal after 3-7 days.

The 4250HDC is similar to the 3250 HD stb just a newer box. To be honest I haven't been able to determine the difference between the 2 STB's except for the remote being different.

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 10:27 AM

....

There is no such thing as a 1080p television signal.... nor will there ever be.
(only 720p and 1080i - which all current HD boxes handle just fine)
Never say never Berk, just say "not in our lifetime" LOL. We don't know what 2010, 2020, or 2025 might bring us.

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 10:31 AM

AndyHDTV: email to Bob forthcoming - any special phrasing suggestions?
Just make the professional, and don't sound beggy and angry. Make it sound like you are long time "satisfied" customer that wants to stay with them and are curious as to when, if ever, will more HD options be available.

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 10:37 AM

hmmm
I have this box and I too might suspect a problem with the HDMI port...

I had my box connected to my HDTV via HDMI and the volume was VERY low
I had the TV volume on 100 and it sounded like it was on 35

Im going to swap it out for a DVR box hopefully it works fine now :)

When using HDMI the sound should be 10x better than if you are using Component cables. If I was you I would check the TV with component cables first and see if the sound is the same.
Unfortunately the 4250 is new to this area of TWC, so maybe the HDMI connections is going through the same growing pains that the 8300 went through. The 3250 was working great but that was a DVI-HDMI. I guess TWC is finally trying to support HDMI. :p

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 10:48 AM

At some point, they will force Nagivator on our 8300HDs. I sure as hell wish we'd get a weeks notice so I can run out all the recordings (there are more than one post about how recordings got deleted with a Nagivator d/l). At that point, I'm heading to 23rd street for a HDC box.
you and me both, this week alone I have 29 shows scheduled (Sun-Sat)so a months notice would be nice, or even better. Do it during the holidays when we aren't watching/reacording many new shows and DVD is king. This wayit is an easy transsittion.

Berk32

10-08-07, 11:19 AM

Never say never Berk, just say "not in our lifetime" LOL. We don't know what 2010, 2020, or 2025 might bring us.

I'm assuming that by the time 1080p is possible - they will want to wait for the 'next' HD standard..... (for financial and marketing reasons)

MarkinNY

10-08-07, 11:27 AM

When using HDMI the sound should be 10x better than if you are using Component cables. If I was you I would check the TV with component cables first and see if the sound is the same.
Unfortunately the 4250 is new to this area of TWC, so maybe the HDMI connections is going through the same growing pains that the 8300 went through. The 3250 was working great but that was a DVI-HDMI. I guess TWC is finally trying to support HDMI. :p

I went through HDMI hell for 4 days with the new 4250 box. After a hard boot, it would work for a short random time and then lose all 2 way connections (vod, guide, settings, etc.) A home tech call and 4 CS calls later, I finally got a second level techie to admit that the Mystro software for the 4250 using HDMI is all screwed up. He also said that Mystro worked OK with the HDMI cable on the 8300 HDC DVR box and on the new Samsung non DVR HD box (SMT-H3050). I have had both these boxes, the Samsung for almost a week now, and they work OK w/HDMI cables.

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 12:15 PM

I went through HDMI hell for 4 days with the new 4250 box. After a hard boot, it would work for a short random time and then lose all 2 way connections (vod, guide, settings, etc.) A home tech call and 4 CS calls later, I finally got a second level techie to admit that the Mystro software for the 4250 using HDMI is all screwed up. He also said that Mystro worked OK with the HDMI cable on the 8300 HDC DVR box and on the new Samsung non DVR HD box (SMT-H3050). I have had both these boxes, the Samsung for almost a week now, and they work OK w/HDMI cables.
All three of those systems mentioned above are F@#$ed up, if I was you I would definately keep component cables connected also, this way you have a backup, when HDMI is having one of those not so fresh days. What you are going through now is exactly what I read people were going through when the 8300 first made it's appearance in this region. The Mystro OS is the same as that dreaded Navigator.

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 12:20 PM

I'm assuming that by the time 1080p is possible - they will want to wait for the 'next' HD standard..... (for financial and marketing reasons)
Hey there are a lot of things that we have today that we would have never imagined being here years ago but they are, so only one can dream as to, when? Electronics is moving at a unbelievable pace these days, so anything can happen.

Slikkster

10-08-07, 01:11 PM

When using HDMI the sound should be 10x better than if you are using Component cables. If I was you I would check the TV with component cables first and see if the sound is the same.

Ok, I know what you mean here, nutty, but I couldn't resist tweaking you on this, lol. Good luck getting ANY sound via component cables! (unless, of course, you're using two out of the three as RCA audio vs. video cables)

Berk32

10-08-07, 02:04 PM

Hey there are a lot of things that we have today that we would have never imagined being here years ago but they are, so only one can dream as to, when? Electronics is moving at a unbelievable pace these days, so anything can happen.

Exactly - which is why i think 1080p will be skipped.

There will be no rush for broadcasters to make the investment for an upgrade when it becomes possible.... and they'll feel as if its better to wait for the next step - as it probably won't be much further away.

AndyHDTV

10-08-07, 02:12 PM

AndyHDTV: email to Bob forthcoming - any special phrasing suggestions?

maybe don't mention the word "HD" as the subject.
he might not want to open it. :)

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 02:13 PM

Ok, I know what you mean here, nutty, but I couldn't resist tweaking you on this, lol. Good luck getting ANY sound via component cables! (unless, of course, you're using two out of the three as RCA audio vs. video cables)
SMART A@#! But I know it was my fault for not saying you should be using component and RCA (for sound) cables as a back up for the LONE HDMI cable.

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 02:15 PM

Exactly - which is why i think 1080p will be skipped.

There will be no rush for broadcasters to make the investment for an upgrade when it becomes possible.... and they'll feel as if its better to wait for the next step - as it probably won't be much further away.
that is true! Right now we are thinking how much bigger can they get, but there are prototype TV's with many more lines of resolution.

AndyHDTV

10-08-07, 03:00 PM

nuttyinnyc

10-08-07, 03:02 PM

coneyparleg

10-08-07, 03:49 PM

AndyHDTV

10-08-07, 03:50 PM

Andy, do you know what DSL runs at?
Is the 1.5 mbps given with the triple play package or is it the standard?

the triple play all in one package gets you 10mbps, the triple play starter pack comes with 1.5mbps.

DSL is at 768kbps for $15 & 3mbps for $30

broadwayblue

10-08-07, 04:54 PM

When using HDMI the sound should be 10x better than if you are using Component cables.

I'd hope so, considering that Component cables don't carry audio. ;)

Crap...I see I was a bit late with that.

broadwayblue

10-08-07, 04:58 PM

Did you reboot your cablemodem? Also, I've *heard* that for now this is only for "RR" customers and not Earthlink customers, but either way, try rebooting your cablemodem then try again. I had to reboot mine to go from 10/768 to 20/1Mbps

I rebooted, but unfortunately no improvement.

TheDov

10-08-07, 06:41 PM

After posting here and reading your advice, I decided to try out the DVR service and just picked up my box on Saturday. My only real complaint (a substantial one though it may be) relates to its handling of HDMI. I had been using a DVI-to-HDMI cable with my plain STB, and had the output resolution limited to 720p to avoid the HDMI handshaking as the box switched to a different resolution.

With my new 8300hdc though, it doesn't let you specify any output resolutions, so I'm stuck with a black screen for a good 5 seconds nearly every time I change the channel. With Component output (which I am unfortunately using for the time being) you can do exactly what I want - so it obviously does have scaling built in. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd really like to be able to connect digitally.

Thanks,
Dov

coneyparleg

10-08-07, 08:29 PM

Road Runner....................................................
Speeds up to 1.5 Mbps/256 kbps $ 29.95
Road Runner Standard......................................
Speeds up to 10 Mbps/512 kbps $ 44.95
Road Runner Turbo...........................................
Speeds up to 15 Mbps/768 kbps $ 54.90
Road Runner Extreme.......................................
Speeds up to 20 Mbps/1 Mbps $ 69.90

The "up to" really bothers me also, if I pay extra I then need to track the speed to make sure I get what I pay fir? also do higher speeds require different modems? And can we trust TWC to send to the user the correct speed on the individual basis?
how will this work is really my question.

UnnDunn

10-08-07, 10:40 PM

Road Runner....................................................
Speeds up to 1.5 Mbps/256 kbps $ 29.95
Road Runner Standard......................................
Speeds up to 10 Mbps/512 kbps $ 44.95
Road Runner Turbo...........................................
Speeds up to 15 Mbps/768 kbps $ 54.90
Road Runner Extreme.......................................
Speeds up to 20 Mbps/1 Mbps $ 69.90
Those would be worthy competitors to FiOS if the upload wasn't so slow.

I find the 5Mbit upload speed of more value than the download speed these days; it lets me remote in to my PC at full fidelity, use WebGuide (http://www.asciiexpress.com/) on the road and upload podcast episodes with the quickness.

And of course, FiOS is just $50 for 20Mbps download; $65 for 20Mbps download and unlimited phone.

abc5

10-08-07, 11:13 PM

AndyHDTV

10-09-07, 12:17 AM

well I been watching alot of TBS-HD this last week and around 15 movies we all stretched upconverts. and the sitcoms as well. the only HD was baseball. So after October, as far as i'm concerned, twc could replace it till april.

Berk32

10-09-07, 01:45 AM

qbbraveheart

10-09-07, 09:21 AM

i have audio via HDMI, video through component (i'll be removing it tomorrow) and audio is okay... watching the Yankees game on HD ch708, very nice.
is that even possible?

HDMI carries both signals doesnt it?

LL3HD

10-09-07, 10:04 AM

I'd like it replaced with Versus-HD right now..... :mad: You got that right. :mad: Who the hell asked for this stupid channel anyway?

:confused: :( Never mind.

Goatweed

10-09-07, 10:06 AM

Road Runner....................................................
Speeds up to 1.5 Mbps/256 kbps $ 29.95
Road Runner Standard......................................
Speeds up to 10 Mbps/512 kbps $ 44.95
Road Runner Turbo...........................................
Speeds up to 15 Mbps/768 kbps $ 54.90
Road Runner Extreme.......................................
Speeds up to 20 Mbps/1 Mbps $ 69.90

I rebooted my modem last night and my speeds seem to be hovering around 8 mbit or so, an increase from the 7 it was last week but not 10 as they claim. I even tried around 1AM this morning (figuring most people wouldn't be on) and it was the same.

Hopefully they ramp it up to 10 soon, as they claim.

twcinsider

10-09-07, 10:31 AM

So now they can charge us for different speeds, I don't like that at all:mad:

part of QOS spec in docsis 1.1 and later versions that allow for speeds. why not have different prices for different speeds? you pay for the level of service u need. if you go into a clothing store , should they have a one size fits all?

twcinsider

10-09-07, 10:32 AM

The "up to" really bothers me also, if I pay extra I then need to track the speed to make sure I get what I pay fir? also do higher speeds require different modems? And can we trust TWC to send to the user the correct speed on the individual basis?
how will this work is really my question.

some higher speeds do require newer modems. older modems even though are docsis 1.0 or 1.1 or 2.0 compliant may only go up to 7 to 10mpbs. don't ask which models since there are so many out there but you can easily do a search on the web to find out.

twcinsider

10-09-07, 10:34 AM

coneyparleg

10-09-07, 11:11 AM

Those would be worthy competitors to FiOS if the upload wasn't so slow.

I find the 5Mbit upload speed of more value than the download speed these days; it lets me remote in to my PC at full fidelity, use WebGuide (http://www.asciiexpress.com/) on the road and upload podcast episodes with the quickness.

And of course, FiOS is just $50 for 20Mbps download; $65 for 20Mbps download and unlimited phone.

yeah this makes me realy interested in the combo deals FIOS will bring, growing tired of the nickle and diming

coneyparleg

10-09-07, 11:18 AM

I rebooted my modem last night and my speeds seem to be hovering around 8 mbit or so, an increase from the 7 it was last week but not 10 as they claim. I even tried around 1AM this morning (figuring most people wouldn't be on) and it was the same.

Hopefully they ramp it up to 10 soon, as they claim.

mine seems to jump around, Ive had as high as 9 and as low as 2 within the space of 2 hours. seems that its kinda of inconsistent. Also do we need a TWC issued cable modem for the for the net, or could I go out and purchase one - will that affect the speeds i get - I'm asking because I 'm not fully versed on the tech

bahill

10-09-07, 11:25 AM

You got that right. :mad: Who the hell asked for this stupid channel anyway?

:confused: :( Never mind.

Oh...you're just bitter!

...waiting for the Indians to show up @ Fenway...... ;)

LL3HD

10-09-07, 11:40 AM

Oh...you're just bitter!

...waiting for the Indians to show up @ Fenway...... ;) No not bitter... sad... but not bitter... Surprised they even made it to the post season this year.

It would have been fun to see Boston and NY go at it again. Sort of like the old Ali / Frazer meetings. Oh well, we didn’t hold up our end. :(

Never thought I'd be rooting for the Tribe. :rolleyes::D

By the way.. that earlier post you quoted me on was supposed to be a joke.

bahill

10-09-07, 12:49 PM

LL3HD

10-09-07, 01:09 PM

...Now...we have to go over to Fox and listen to Buck & McCarver, though..........ugh. :(The high point with the FOX broadcast (for me at least :p ) will be guessing what shade of orange Tim’s hair will be. :D

nuttyinnyc

10-09-07, 03:57 PM

No not bitter... sad... but not bitter... Surprised they even made it to the post season this year.

It would have been fun to see Boston and NY go at it again. Sort of like the old Ali / Frazer meetings. Oh well, we didn’t hold up our end. :(

Never thought I'd be rooting for the Tribe. :rolleyes::D

By the way.. that earlier post you quoted me on was supposed to be a joke.
so sad Larry, me cry long long time!! Not really, I am disappointed, but they spoiled us. They made winning look easy for that 8 year span,(6 WS apearances) so we expect them to get far each year. They can claim that they are built to be WS or bust but these are the best teams in baseball and you have to win 11 very competitive games to become champions. A run like they had will be very hard to duplicate now, especially after 162 regular games and with three rounds to win it all. The criticism begins today and the armchair managers are coming out of the woodwork, but the bottom line is that the team hasn't hit well with runners on base in the post season for the last three years. That will doom any team!

They will make the playoffs next year again, but the same thing will happen if they don't start scoring. But it is now time to switch gears and focus on NFL, NBA, and NHL games.

nuttyinnyc

10-09-07, 04:01 PM

The high point with the FOX broadcast (for me at least :p ) will be guessing what shade of orange Tim’s hair will be. :D
I thought they seperated them? Are you sure McCarver will still be teamed with Buck? Buck is #1 he will always be anouncing as long as Fox has a sports contract(this generation's Bob Costas), but during the regular season Buck was with other poeple.

LL3HD

10-09-07, 04:05 PM

I thought they seperated them? Are you sure McCarver will still be teamed with Buck? Buck is #1 he will always be anouncing as long as Fox has a sports contract(this generation's Bob Costas), but during the regular season Buck was with other poeple.I’m not sure. I thought that Buck wasn’t working the games with Tim (or anyone for that matter) because he was prepping his NFL games. I assume he will be back for the baseball post season.

Riverside_Guy

10-09-07, 04:08 PM

Riverside_Guy

10-09-07, 04:14 PM

Oh yeah, the CSR told me that effective Oct 1st, standard roadrunner service is 10Mbps.

Checked again, 10 Mb/s to most of the country. Tested three west coast cities, best it could manage was 6500 kb/s, more than one try falling into the 5500 range.

Riverside_Guy

10-09-07, 04:25 PM

I'd like it replaced with Versus-HD right now..... :mad:

Isn't there a Rangers/Islanders "exclusive on VS" this week? Baseball is way over in this town...

nuttyinnyc

10-09-07, 04:32 PM

So a second 8300DVR is only $9.64 additional? Oh wait, the HDXtra combo pact is DVR + HDNet/Mojo, so it's 9.64 AND 8.50, or $18.14/ month more.
you see I read that different, it looked like he has 2 DVR boxes and one reg STB. Because the triple play comes with a reg STB standard, but then the HDXtra adds the extra HD channels plus DVR service, so he pays for the DVRSTB this is number 1. Then he has the second DVR box which you get double charged for box and service. This is where TWC gets greedy. the service is in the box, they don't give us the service they provide the box that does DVRing, IMO they should charge per box, but not the extreme of $9 per box. $18 a month to be able to use DVR is extreme. All the cable co's should bring that price down.

On what TWCinsider was saying, $79 for triple play, I tell you guys, if that is in place when FIOSTV is available by me it might be hard for me to leave TWC. Especially if I can lock that in for a year or more. I would commit for the 2 years also if I can get the 10% off too.

nuttyinnyc

10-09-07, 04:34 PM

Isn't there a Rangers/Islanders "exclusive on VS" this week? Baseball is way over in this town...
yeah I think there is, That is broadwayblues only game he will accept not seeing in HD, VsHD better be available after that.

nuttyinnyc

10-09-07, 04:54 PM

I meant to ask you guys something, this was very confusing. The article for us getting the NHL network was for the New York, NY area and it stated this:

NHL Network, which launched in Canada in 2001, is available in the U.S. beginning October 1 to coincide with the start of the 2007-08 NHL season. All NHL games will be produced and televised in high-definition. NHL Network will broadcast 50 live regular-season games (subject to local blackout restrictions) in addition to classic games, documentaries, instructional shows, highlights and more.

This was from the TWC release. Does this mean the station, even though it is in the 400's, will it be able to show the 50 games in HD to us? Or are we going to get a special HD station to broadcast the 50 HD games? I am confused, if all the games are produced and televised in HD why would TWC downgrade the signal. If they do make the 50 games on 458 HD that might make my prediction true that those other sport channels will have their live games in HD also. I thought I ask you guys first instead of asking a CSR for her to give me that long pause and no answer.

5w30

10-09-07, 06:25 PM

Isn't there a Rangers/Islanders "exclusive on VS" this week? Baseball is way over in this town...
yep, wednesday nite 7pm from the Mausoleum.

Berk32

10-09-07, 07:29 PM

ebrigham

10-09-07, 07:36 PM

coneyparleg

10-09-07, 08:07 PM

Thanks for the info. Called today and basically doubled my download/upload speeds. And they lowered my bill by $2 to boot!

What did you say to them, when I called they offered me no kind of deal.

Tresjolie9

10-09-07, 08:42 PM

abc5

10-09-07, 09:51 PM

abc5

10-09-07, 09:56 PM

I went through HDMI hell for 4 days with the new 4250 box. After a hard boot, it would work for a short random time and then lose all 2 way connections (vod, guide, settings, etc.) A home tech call and 4 CS calls later, I finally got a second level techie to admit that the Mystro software for the 4250 using HDMI is all screwed up. He also said that Mystro worked OK with the HDMI cable on the 8300 HDC DVR box and on the new Samsung non DVR HD box (SMT-H3050). I have had both these boxes, the Samsung for almost a week now, and they work OK w/HDMI cables.

hmm do you mean for ex. you press on your TW remote, the 'guide' button on the upper left, and the screen tells you it's not available?

or while you're just watching cable, and your lcd goes into 'please wait...' every now and then?

surfinusa88

10-09-07, 10:48 PM

I rebooted my modem last night and my speeds seem to be hovering around 8 mbit or so, an increase from the 7 it was last week but not 10 as they claim. I even tried around 1AM this morning (figuring most people wouldn't be on) and it was the same.

Hopefully they ramp it up to 10 soon, as they claim.

If you have an older modem (I had a Toshiba) the ethernet connection might be only 10mbs which will probably not go above 7-8. Take a look at the back and see if it is 100BaseT or 10BaseT? When I swapped the Toshiba for a Motorola I went from 8 to 10mbs.

broadwayblue

10-10-07, 12:40 AM

yeah I think there is, That is broadwayblues only game he will accept not seeing in HD, VsHD better be available after that.

Yup...that 1 game is tonight. Rangers/Isles too...what a shame. VsHD better magically appear on the 15th.

Guess I'll drop Mr. Watson another email today...I'll let him know that one game has come and gone. I'm all business from here on out. ;)

TonyNYC

10-10-07, 09:02 AM

Nice to know the NHL Network will be showing games too. I love the new channel and would hope to get the best in picture quality from it with an HD feed. Good work guys on passing along the news and information.

ebrigham

10-10-07, 09:39 AM

What did you say to them, when I called they offered me no kind of deal.

While I did specifically ask them what my incremental cost would be for the higher bandwidth, I didn't press the matter further when they told me about the $2 reduction. So basically, I will believe it when I see my bill. If my bill was actually lowered, it was probably in response to that question - didn't require any real persuasion on my part. She was friendly, but was confusing megabyte with megabit so who knows how reliable the information was.

I was paying about $208 per month (all in) including 2 HD DVR boxes and a lot of channels, HD, VOD etc (no phone). I am not even sure what package I have or if I was previously being gouged. So perhaps you are already benefiting from a good deal?

heinriph

10-10-07, 09:51 AM

Watching Bones on Fox HD tonight, and the picture keeps freezing, for various moments.

Was watching 713 last night, and was also experiencing repeated freezing. The screen would end up going black and silent and a second later, resume normally. Happened a dozen times between 9 and 11.

On a different note, anyone switching to a Navigator box should be aware that the A/B/C/D/ buttons no longer work for those snap polls that NY1 (and other?) occasionally put out there. I demand my voice back in unscientific polls about trivial nonsense!

Goatweed

10-10-07, 11:22 AM

If you have an older modem (I had a Toshiba) the ethernet connection might be only 10mbs which will probably not go above 7-8. Take a look at the back and see if it is 100BaseT or 10BaseT? When I swapped the Toshiba for a Motorola I went from 8 to 10mbs.

My Toshiba died last summer so I've got that fancy new Moto Surfboard modem - I'll double check it tonight but I'm sure it should be able to take 10 with no problem.

Riverside_Guy

10-10-07, 11:26 AM

It'll be similar to NBA-TV - separate HD feed

Which sure seems to say that we will ONLY get the SD version, not the HD one.

LL3HD

10-10-07, 11:32 AM

I demand my voice back in unscientific polls about trivial nonsense!:D That’s funny.
I can’t tell you how many times in the morning I tried to vote on one of those inane polls :rolleyes: only to find that I was on a DVR delay. :eek: Doh! It was before my wake up cup-o-jo. :o

Riverside_Guy

10-10-07, 11:36 AM

If you have an older modem (I had a Toshiba) the ethernet connection might be only 10mbs which will probably not go above 7-8. Take a look at the back and see if it is 100BaseT or 10BaseT? When I swapped the Toshiba for a Motorola I went from 8 to 10mbs.

I just went through a rigmarole with my IP connectivity, had a RCA cable modem, thought I was getting successive bad ones, tried to get something else, was emphatically told the RCA is the ONLY TWC cable modem (this was at 23rd street, Manhattan office which, btw, also houses all the execs).

The RCA one has NO information on it about it's Ethernet connectivity rate. But I DO test to 9800 kb/s down.

Riverside_Guy

10-10-07, 11:38 AM

Yup...that 1 game is tonight. Rangers/Isles too...what a shame. VsHD better magically appear on the 15th.

Guess I'll drop Mr. Watson another email today...I'll let him know that one game has come and gone. I'm all business from here on out. ;)

I think Watson's office is above the 23rd street store... if someone were to organize some big protest march outside those offices, I am SO there! Hell, we could do a AVS forum meet and greet AND make some noise to get press coverage...

coneyparleg

10-10-07, 11:42 AM

I just went through a rigmarole with my IP connectivity, had a RCA cable modem, thought I was getting successive bad ones, tried to get something else, was emphatically told the RCA is the ONLY TWC cable modem (this was at 23rd street, Manhattan office which, btw, also houses all the execs).

The RCA one has NO information on it about it's Ethernet connectivity rate. But I DO test to 9800 kb/s down.

same here but it drops to about 4mbps during primetime, But I'm guessing thats normal

Riverside_Guy

10-10-07, 11:43 AM

Was watching 713 last night, and was also experiencing repeated freezing. The screen would end up going black and silent and a second later, resume normally. Happened a dozen times between 9 and 11.

On a different note, anyone switching to a Navigator box should be aware that the A/B/C/D/ buttons no longer work for those snap polls that NY1 (and other?) occasionally put out there. I demand my voice back in unscientific polls about trivial nonsense!

I'm not so sure those "A, B, C button votes" work even for a Passport box. I actually can recall "voting" with one of those buttons, but have NO idea anything actually happened.

Riverside_Guy

10-10-07, 11:47 AM

Trying to engage my 2007 memory... I was thinking about what HD TWC has done for us in calendar 2007. Best I can come up with is that they have added exactly 2 HD channels (ESPN HD and TBS HD) while dropping another (InHD 2). Net gain of exactly ONE HD channel in all of 2007. SI doesn't count as I don't live there!

LL3HD

10-10-07, 11:54 AM

... if someone were to organize some big protest march outside those offices, I am SO there! Hell, we could do a AVS forum meet and greet AND make some noise to get press coverage... I'll be there!

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/movie/promo-angry-mob.jpg

LL3HD

10-10-07, 11:58 AM

I'm not so sure those "A, B, C button votes" work even for a Passport box. I actually can recall "voting" with one of those buttons, but have NO idea anything actually happened.It works. If you get your vote in during their “window” for voting, you will see on the screen an indication that it registered. I think it might have been a thank you. I don’t remember because as I said, too many times I missed the “window” for voting.

scott_bernstein

10-10-07, 12:15 PM

I'm not so sure those "A, B, C button votes" work even for a Passport box. I actually can recall "voting" with one of those buttons, but have NO idea anything actually happened.

When your vote registers, a little black & white box on the bottom of the screen pops up and says "Vote registered" (or something to that effect) and then disappears.

Berk32

10-10-07, 01:29 PM

broadwayblue

10-10-07, 02:15 PM

I think Watson's office is above the 23rd street store... if someone were to organize some big protest march outside those offices, I am SO there! Hell, we could do a AVS forum meet and greet AND make some noise to get press coverage...

I have considered that!

AndyHDTV

10-10-07, 02:18 PM

max-hd & starz-hd came in nov 2006.
2007 came and we lost inhd2 and gained my9-hd, espn2hd & tbs-hd

scott_bernstein

10-10-07, 02:34 PM

CinemaxHD and StarzHD

But still.... not good enough... considering the huge leap HD has taken

Plus ESPN2-HD, WWOR-HD, and WPIX-HD, none of which were offered before.

coneyparleg

10-10-07, 03:10 PM

I have considered that!

I'm down for some marching and noise making too!!!

Berk32

10-10-07, 03:45 PM

max-hd & starz-hd came in nov 2006.
2007 came and we lost inhd2 and gained my9-hd, espn2hd & tbs-hd

those were '06?? damn i've lost all concept of time... i thought those came in the spring...

broadwayblue

10-10-07, 04:24 PM

I'm down for some marching and noise making too!!!

I sent another email...and posted Mr. Watson's email on a popular Rangers forum. Maybe he'll get tired of being emailed and actually give us some information.

timewaster

10-10-07, 05:04 PM

Thanks for the info. Called today and basically doubled my download/upload speeds. And they lowered my bill by $2 to boot!

you need to call to get the upgrade to 10Mbps?
do you need to mention any special deal or code?

ebrigham

10-10-07, 05:10 PM

you need to call to get the upgrade to 10Mbps?
do you need to mention any special deal or code?

Actually I upgraded from 10 to 20 - and yes I needed to call. Didn't mention anything specific other than "I want to see if you have any higher bandwidth options..." and they were very quick to offer. A while back, when I upgraded from 8-ish to 10, I can't remember if they did it automatically or if I needed to call (leaning towards I needed to call).

BTW I have the Toshiba modem and regularly get 18+ Mbps download now.

abc5

10-10-07, 07:29 PM

i have an RCA modem... should I upgrade.

ebrigham

10-10-07, 09:52 PM

i have an RCA modem... should I upgrade.

I have no idea - sorry :(

Maybe someone else has some insight...

Berk32

10-10-07, 10:32 PM

Ok.... had a bit too much time.....

yellow = HD
Red = empty - but signal active
green = signal/picture not assigned to any channel #

I guess I'll be updating on 10/15....

Riverside_Guy

10-11-07, 10:16 AM

Watching Bones on Fox HD tonight, and the picture keeps freezing, for various moments.

Had a problem with the box last week, wondering if this is a problem with the box, or Fox. I had some problems with the box, and HD last week, where all the channels were getting stuck. Rebooted, and that solved the problem. Howevr so far I'm only having problems on Fox, a network where at times, I've seen digital interference while watching on rabbit ears!

Just watched a recording...ah-yup, there were several fairly large glitches (and this after saying the frequency of glitches was way down compared to 2 months ago). You imply it was via OTA you got this, so it must be a FOX issue as I had it through TWC.

Riverside_Guy

10-11-07, 10:20 AM

When your vote registers, a little black & white box on the bottom of the screen pops up and says "Vote registered" (or something to that effect) and then disappears.

Ha, on more than one occasion, I have attempted to register a "vote" but I have never, ever seen ANY confirmation like you say you got. I guess being uptown, I don't get a vote!

Riverside_Guy

10-11-07, 10:24 AM

CinemaxHD and StarzHD

But still... not good enough... considering the huge leap HD has taken

We got those last year, around November. Along with YES and SNY going full time (as the ONLY HD content on either of those we already were getting, I don't consider them a new HD channel).

Still say it's a net of ONE added HD channel in all of 2007.

Riverside_Guy

10-11-07, 10:26 AM

max-hd & starz-hd came in nov 2006.
2007 came and we lost inhd2 and gained my9-hd, espn2hd & tbs-hd

Ah, forgot about MY9 HD... that makes 2 net new HD channels.

Riverside_Guy

10-11-07, 10:27 AM

Plus ESPN2-HD, WWOR-HD, and WPIX-HD, none of which were offered before.

PIX is CW isn't it? Pretty sure we had that in 2006. I DID forget about WOR... er My9.

Riverside_Guy

10-11-07, 10:29 AM

i have an RCA modem... should I upgrade.

Pretty sure I already said I tried to get a non-RCA modem and was told this is the ONLY modem they are giving out.

scott_bernstein

10-11-07, 01:30 PM

Ok.... had a bit too much time.....

yellow = HD
Red = empty - but signal active
green = signal/picture not assigned to any channel #

I guess I'll be updating on 10/15....
Excellent research! Thanks for doing this!!!

And basically confirms what I've already seen -- that they are definitely squeezing more channels into the same bandwidth (both HD/SD):
Note how CBS-HD & WNET-HD are only sharing their bandwidth with 2 SD channels (each equal to fraction [approx 1/6th] of the bandwidth HD uses), and I see rates up to 7G/hr on the DVR.

And it also confirms what we all noticed about the beauty and clarity of the HD picture on TBS-HD -- it has a QAM frequency all to itself! So there is no extra compression going on with that channel whatsoever. (What a waste now!). But I'd be on the lookout for whatever they're planning to add to go on this frequency...

But most of the other HD channels are now sharing their QAM frequencies with at least 2 other HD channels (though Mojo-HD is sharing it bandwidth with 8(!) SD channels, and HBO/Showtime/UHD are sharing their bandwidth with 1 additional SD channel, which I think is explains the most bandwidth sqeezing I'm seeing).

I am also suspicious if the positioning of the channels on the QAM frequencies matters -- like SHO is on 693.1, HBO is on 693.2, and UHD is on 693.4. And I have observed that SHO seems to give me the most bandwidth, and UHD the least.

We'll see what happens on 10/15. Though, frankly, nothing at all might happen here. Remapping channels to the boxes has very little to do with what QAM frequencies the channels show up on.

Scott

scott_bernstein

10-11-07, 01:33 PM

Ok.... had a bit too much time.....

yellow = HD
Red = empty - but signal active
green = signal/picture not assigned to any channel #

I guess I'll be updating on 10/15....
Also -- what's up with 795.8? You've got it listed as TCM and highlighted as HD. Is this for real???

Scott

nuttyinnyc

10-11-07, 01:55 PM

max-hd & starz-hd came in nov 2006.
2007 came and we lost inhd2 and gained my9-hd, espn2hd & tbs-hd
Are you sure? The premiums feel more like a 2007 addition. After my 9 but before espn2.

Edit:Never mind
Nov 1st 2006 MaxHD, StarzHD and full time MSGHD
March 29th 2007 My 9 and SIer's extras
June 14th Espn2HD
Oct 1 TBSHD
How many extra channels does SI have? It looks like seven more from the announcements alone.

Vivid5500

10-11-07, 03:02 PM

Just went over to the Time Warner store and complained about the non-working 4250 HDMI output plug.

I was given the 8300 HDC (w/ Navigator ick) and the DVR service for free until they get the 4250 boxes working with HDMI. Just an FYI, you may be able to argue the same thing. Basically you are paying for Hi Def, want to use HDMI and they can't provide it.

Your mileage may vary.

nuttyinnyc

10-11-07, 03:42 PM

you are lucky, Normally you would get their motto, come on everyone "TWC doesn't support HDMI!" You are lucky they didn't try to push a 3250 on you. Hey you have free DVR service for ? amount of months. Just enjoy it while you can but once they get the HDIMI fixed on the 4250 I think it is a safe bet to say you will not want tohe 4250 back.

hsimms

10-11-07, 03:47 PM

I have an RCA Cable Modem.

Just upgraded to 15/768 service. The modem was flashed by the headend within 5 minutes. No need to power down or disconnect. I had the old 10 plan, found it to be a dog and dropped it a few months ago.

Using the meter at Speakeasy I just topped out at 14582/727. 29 floors of copper to the digital hub.

Berk32

10-11-07, 04:08 PM

Also -- what's up with 795.8? You've got it listed as TCM and highlighted as HD. Is this for real???

Scott

I may have screwed up a yellow/green somewhere.....

I should have added a disclaimer....

It's not perfect.... I'll give it a proofread and repost next week (we're getting at least 1 new channel on 10/15 - and i think there are some other random (useless) additions that are indicated on the TWC website...

Also - The content in red and green is what I was able to find basically randomly... There might be more than what I found.....

LL3HD

10-11-07, 04:09 PM

Excellent research! Thanks for doing this!!!
...And it also confirms what we all noticed about the beauty and clarity of the HD picture on TBS-HD -- it has a QAM frequency all to itself!That is a very interesting chart. :cool: Very cool work Berk32.

As you said Scott, this chart confirms your findings.

And regarding TBSHD, I’ve said it here and on other threads, an HD picture hasn’t wowed me since the Winter Olympics in 2002. That broadcast was always, in my mind, the best HD I’ve seen to date. Now with this post season of baseball I have that wow feeling again. This chart explains the reason.

The federal government likes to stick their fingers in more places than they should—this is where they should be poking. There should be some type of technical broadcast criterion for an individual HD channel to not go below. Picture quality is what it’s all about.

net_synapse

10-11-07, 04:11 PM

nuttyinnyc

10-11-07, 04:22 PM

(we're getting at least 1 new channel on 10/15 - and i think there are some other random (useless) additions that are indicated on the TWC website...
....

Really? What do you know or think is the HD addition? I am thinking that at a min VsHD and A&EHD might be a last minute addition on Monday. Then November 1st we will be given the SI extras. I am using my crystal ball, tarot cards, or maybe just flipping the coin here, but said it earlier that big changes are coming and I still stand by that. This is the time for TWC to prove me right. They have fallen WAY behind the competition in this area and need to make a statement. (Not another "see what we did for you" TBSHD addition)

LL3HD

10-11-07, 04:32 PM

I think it's the Fox Business News channel and I don't think it is in HD.

Berk32

10-11-07, 04:42 PM

Really? What do you know or think is the HD addition? I am thinking that at a min VsHD and A&EHD might be a last minute addition on Monday. Then November 1st we will be given the SI extras. I am using my crystal ball, tarot cards, or maybe just flipping the coin here, but said it earlier that big changes are coming and I still stand by that. This is the time for TWC to prove me right. They have fallen WAY behind the competition in this area and need to make a statement. (Not another "see what we did for you" TBSHD addition)

O - I never said HD.....

TonyNYC

10-11-07, 06:00 PM

I think it's the Fox Business News channel and I don't think it is in HD.

Yes, Fox Business News is the new channel we are getting along with several channel lineup changes.

adrman

10-11-07, 08:13 PM

Anyone else not able to receive 705 & 711? I'm in the Village.

edited to add, I am receiving sd 05 and 11 though.

LL3HD

10-11-07, 08:21 PM

Anyone else not able to receive 705 & 711? I'm in the Village.

edited to add, I am receiving sd 05 and 11 though.

No problem in Queens.

pasemp

10-11-07, 09:06 PM

Anyone else experiencing the top game info bar being cut off? It's like the aspect ratio is off.

adrman

10-11-07, 09:16 PM

Anyone else experiencing the top game info bar being cut off? It's like the aspect ratio is off.

I'm seeing it here in the village, but it's all the way at the top of my display. Any higher and it would be clipped. TBS might be taking chances with the safe display area.

adrman

10-11-07, 09:19 PM

hmmm, they just came back from commercial break and the info bar has magically been lowered.

pasemp

10-11-07, 09:52 PM

mine is now fixed too (sunset park, bk)

nuttyinnyc

10-12-07, 09:49 AM

O - I never said HD.....
that is right, you never did. I interperted your post as saying we were getting one. I read between your lines. LOL.

adrman

10-12-07, 10:32 AM

Anyone else not able to receive 705 & 711? I'm in the Village.

edited to add, I am receiving sd 05 and 11 though.

Well this am I found the problem to my missing channels. For the last year I've had a Video Isolation Transformer (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=180-075&CFID=8084233&CFTOKEN=64881363) installed on the coax line coming into my apartment because of a 60Hz ground hum that it was introducing into my system. Up until now I've successfully used this device even though it is noted to possibly have issues with digital cable. TWC must have changed something around yesterday because this am I pulled the transformer off the line and 705 and 711 returned. As a test I put the transformer back in the loop and the two channels were gone again. I guess it's back to ground lifts on the ac cables for my home entertainment system. :(

ronross

10-12-07, 11:17 AM

Riverside_Guy

10-12-07, 11:35 AM

The federal government likes to stick their fingers in more places than they should—this is where they should be poking. There should be some type of technical broadcast criterion for an individual HD channel to not go below. Picture quality is what it’s all about.

I'd like to know more about "Cable Labs." This is the outfit that SEEMS to be saying (technically) what "should" be going on... I read they had said that the bit rate should be 15 Mb/s (I think it was that) for quality HD. Which I think we really don't get.

Is this "group" really independent? Who funds them?

Agent_C

10-12-07, 11:48 AM

Is this "group" really independent? Who funds them?

Take a look at the Board of Directors:

http://www.cablelabs.com/about/board/

Now you tell me... :eek:

LL3HD

10-12-07, 12:24 PM

Take a look at the Board of Directors:

http://www.cablelabs.com/about/board/These guys are responsible for the technical guidelines? Really??
That’s like having OPEC in charge of the CAFE standards.

ZMike

10-12-07, 12:55 PM

Before I waste time with TWC c/s I wanted to see if anyone else has my two biggest problems. I'm on the UWS of Manhattan, 8300HDC DVR running Navigator, standard Roadrunner.

Ever since I got this box Channel 4HD has been unwatchable - literally. Audio and video constantly break up and pixelate. This is the only channel this happens on so I don't know what TWC is going to do to fix it.

Plus, for the past week my Roadrunner connection which always maxed out at the former top speed of 7500kps is now averaging 5000kps instead of the 10MBs now possible. I'll probably swap my six year old leased Toshiba cable modem for the one TWC is using now but I have also heard that there are overloaded nodes in Manhattan that are causing many users to experience slowdowns.

When I first got the 8300HDC they sent a tech to my apt. who checked the signal strength at various points and changed a couple of splitters, but the problem with NBC (which I didn't point out to him at the time) persisted while the Roadrunner slowdown started some time after the visit.

So should I just live with this or is there anything TWC can do?

Thanks,
Ron

For starters, I get pixelization on more than just one channel at random. This has been reported by many members everywhere for quite awhile and has been attributed variously to HD channel over-packing and transmission issues. The 8300 HDC adds another dimension to the unknowns.

I have RR Premium, which is now 20Mb down, but my speed has been all over the place, and mostly a lot less during prime time, for a month before they increased it. Several people were talking about it on this thread before the increase. I don't think the modem is causing the problem.
We should be calling TWC and advising them that we are not getting anywhere near the speed that they talk about, just so they know they have a problem in more than one location.
Some tweaks are available that can increase throughput under certain circumstances. See http://www.speedguide.net/ They will probably help more than TWC.

-Mike

TonyNYC

10-12-07, 02:29 PM

Plus, for the past week my Roadrunner connection which always maxed out at the former top speed of 7500kps is now averaging 5000kps instead of the 10MBs now possible. I'll probably swap my six year old leased Toshiba cable modem for the one TWC is using now but I have also heard that there are overloaded nodes in Manhattan that are causing many users to experience slowdowns.
Ron

Hmm, 6 years with the same modem leads me to believe that you are using the original PCX1100U that TWC issued that many years back from what I can recall. I would definately get this switched out since that model modem is only a DOCSIS 1.1 standard cable modem. If and when TWC goes up to the 2.0 standard and raises upload cap speeds someday, that modem model might have issues. TWC currently issues the RCA DCM 425 I believe, but you can BYOM and use the more popular Motorola SURFboard SB51xx series if you prefer and find them for cheap if you search around for one.

Try changing out the modem and see if your speed issues look better.

Yes, the issue of overloaded nodes has been mentioned over years of discussion on the broadbandreports forums dealing with Road Runner in NYC. Some have even went as far as writing the CEO or contacting the DOITT. Some have had success stories and others are still disgruntled at the service.

Good luck.

HDTV Dude

10-12-07, 03:37 PM

hsimms

10-12-07, 04:22 PM

LL3HD

10-12-07, 04:29 PM

... and now this is all we have forward to look for. Yep... that's TW for ya'

Here's the new changes... watch carefully....

Don't look away..

http://www.biblehelp.org/images/shell%20game.jpg

UnnDunn

10-12-07, 07:35 PM

Where's the beef? I heard so many rumors about sometime big happening on or around October 15th with regards to HD programming and now this is all we have forward to look for.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/Programming/oct15channelchanges.html
It says A&E HD is moving from 716 to 746.

The only problem with that is A&E HD is already at 746.

Meh, nothing surprises me anymore.

Berk32

10-12-07, 08:54 PM

It says A&E HD is moving from 716 to 746.

The only problem with that is A&E HD is already at 746.

Meh, nothing surprises me anymore.

You're Staten Island

We get a different list in Manhattan and Queens

Riverside_Guy

10-13-07, 09:25 AM

Take a look at the Board of Directors:

http://www.cablelabs.com/about/board/

Now you tell me... :eek:

Actually, I kinda knew this already... I was actually trying to see if anyone could shoot down my supposition they were essentially the cable/sat business themselves.

Y'all DO know that the Rent Guidelines Board which sets rent increases is 100% funded by the real estate business?

This IS the group that said 15 Mb/s was the minimum acceptable bit rate, which TWC in NYC seems to be totally ignoring.

Riverside_Guy

10-13-07, 09:30 AM

Where's the beef? I heard so many rumors about sometime big happening on or around October 15th with regards to HD programming and now this is all we have forward to look for.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/Programming/oct15channelchanges.html

Well, they ARE moving that SD channel (NJN) out of the 700 series block that was SUPPOSED to be all HD.

There never is any beef with them, it's all about scraps most of us wouldn't feed to our dogs.

Given this, my rant about 3 added HD channels looks to be the legacy for the entire year of 2007. There had been speculation that on 10/15 we'd at LEAST get the 6 SI HD channels.

Riverside_Guy

10-13-07, 09:35 AM

I reported my positive experience of yesterday afternoon on the 15/768 RR upgrade.

I must admit that between 7 - 9 pm yesterday, may have started earlier and ended later, that's just when I tested, I got between 5m and 10m on the D and about 350-400k on the U.

I'm in a building with almost 400 apartments on the 29th of 39 floors.

A few minutes ago I got 14575/726.

Time of day will make a difference, that is the nature of the beast. When I caught that standard service went from 7 to 10, I also noticed this ONLY to be true from the non west coast speakeasy servers. ALL west coast cities seemed to consistently get 7 Mbs service.

Riverside_Guy

10-13-07, 09:38 AM

Yep... that's TW for ya'

Here's the new changes... watch carefully....

Don't look away..

http://www.biblehelp.org/images/shell%20game.jpg

FABULOUS Larry! I wish I had contact with those hackers that found fun is "defacing" web sites... if we could only get a bunch of these guys to hack TWC's site with this graphic!

Hmm, you know this is NOT such a bad idea... it would 100% turn a HUGE spotlight on them. All the crap they subject us to because they can would almost become national news.

Riverside_Guy

10-13-07, 09:42 AM

You're Staten Island

We get a different list in Manhattan and Queens

The link WAS for Manhattan AND it listed A&E going from 16 to 46.

BTW, we HAVE seen them "announce" things far after the fact... like over 3 months to actually list the correct channel guide WHILE forgetting about UnHD so we felt it may be dropped.

Actually, it also COULD have been a cookie that delivered Manhattan, the link seems to say NY/NJ.

Berk32

10-13-07, 12:51 PM

The link WAS for Manhattan AND it listed A&E going from 16 to 46.

BTW, we HAVE seen them "announce" things far after the fact... like over 3 months to actually list the correct channel guide WHILE forgetting about UnHD so we felt it may be dropped.

Actually, it also COULD have been a cookie that delivered Manhattan, the link seems to say NY/NJ.

if you dont have your location set (via cookie) - the website will ask for you to set it up (so it can later differentiate between Manhattan, SI, and any others)

bdfox18doe

10-13-07, 12:58 PM

A bit-off topic, but I was in your fine city this week. The hotel I stayed in had a nice TV with digital tuner, but most of the channels it received were only the public access "free" ones. No QAM's, no HD, not even CNN or FOX News..

UnnDunn

10-13-07, 01:20 PM

You're Staten Island

We get a different list in Manhattan and Queens
I know, but the point was they still messed up.

coreynyc

10-13-07, 11:29 PM

I have had lots of intermittent pixellation on 705 & 711 the past few days and now I come home to find I can't watch the end of the ALCS game in HD)...been on hold or 10 min with no one to talk to.

Also, I can't get 711 to work.

HDTV Freak

10-14-07, 12:30 AM

All my channels were dropping after displayiing for a few seconds, called c/s and they said a new software version came out for the SA 8300HD. I wonder if this has anything to do with the upcoming channel changes. I hope the firewire port works now.

Oh and I can barely get 20% of my max 10mbit download speed most of the day. Only after 2AM, I can get the full speed. :mad:

coreynyc

10-14-07, 11:03 AM

So my Fox & CW HD are both still out and I called customer service. After a 20 MINUTE WAIT ON HOLD, they couldn't do anything for me but suggest soft & hard boots (I knew to try that myself).

So now the first available 6-9 appt is Saturday, so I opted for Sat morning.

No ALCS, Jets game, or Prison Break in HD for me this week. Great service! Bring on FIOS!

I have had lots of intermittent pixellation on 705 & 711 the past few days and now I come home to find I can't watch the end of the ALCS game in HD)...been on hold or 10 min with no one to talk to.

Also, I can't get 711 to work.

adrman

10-15-07, 08:25 AM

So my Fox & CW HD are both still out and I called customer service. After a 20 MINUTE WAIT ON HOLD, they couldn't do anything for me but suggest soft & hard boots (I knew to try that myself).

So now the first available 6-9 appt is Saturday, so I opted for Sat morning.

No ALCS, Jets game, or Prison Break in HD for me this week. Great service! Bring on FIOS!

Corey, see my post(s) from last Thursday at the top of this page (oops top of the previous page). TWC changed something with these two channels over the last few days.

Agent_C

10-15-07, 09:54 AM

Anybody check the lineup???

I didn't have a chance before leaving for work this morning. Tell me good news, please. :D

A_C

coreynyc

10-15-07, 11:13 AM

I saw your post but magically, 705 & 711 started working (almost) normally yesterday afternoon. Got an occasional occurances of where the sound/picture would "stutter" (is that a drop out?) but mostly it was OK.

Corey, see my post(s) from last Thursday at the top of this page (oops top of the previous page). TWC changed something with these two channels over the last few days.

LL3HD

10-15-07, 12:16 PM

TravKoolBreeze

10-15-07, 12:43 PM

No A&E HD; still Universal HD on 740.

LL3HD

10-15-07, 02:14 PM

No A&E HD; still Universal HD on 740. I said 746 not 740. :)
Anyone check this out yet?
Do we have it?

It's listed on the web site, thanks to this post..
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11908989&postcount=2727

scott_bernstein

10-15-07, 02:21 PM

Can anyone verify that we now have A&E in HD on 746?

I can’t remember the last time I watched the SD A&E but I guess I’ll take whatever they offer.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx

No. Not available in Manhattan as of ~11:30AM, though there were some messages about SNY's channel being moved when you tuned it it's old channel number.

scott_bernstein

10-15-07, 02:22 PM

I said 746 not 740. :)
Anyone check this out yet?
Do we have it?

It's listed on the web site, thanks to this post..
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11908989&postcount=2727
BTW, this does check out -- I logged onto the TWC website w/my zipcode (lower manhattan) and it sure does list 746 as A&E HD.

Is there anything in true HD on that channel anyway?

Scott

broadwayblue

10-15-07, 03:09 PM

Where's my Golf/Vs? ;)

Agent_C

10-15-07, 03:14 PM

Where's my Golf/Vs? ;)

Enough sports already! I want my CNN-HD!!!! :mad:

LL3HD

10-15-07, 03:32 PM

Enough sports already! I want my CNN-HD!!!! :mad:
Enough CNN HD already!

Give me more ---Sports, Movies, Music… in no particular order. :cool:

I can wait for the propaganda promoters to broadcast their biases in HD.

Yeah,:rolleyes: I want Christiane Amanpour in HD.:rolleyes:
No amount of resolution is going to bring clarity to her reporting. But of course, this is just my opinion. ;)

UnnDunn

10-15-07, 03:41 PM

Berk32

10-15-07, 03:54 PM

DirecTV just added six more national HD channels (http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/another-week-another-10-new-hd-channels-for-directv/).

When is TWC going to step up and start adding more HD?

Having said that, Verizon isn't much better; they haven't added any new HD in almost a year.

Even worse... (or better.... depending on your options)

MSG-HD is advertised on their website as being 1 of the HD channels coming by the end of the year......

Agent_C

10-15-07, 04:03 PM

Enough CNN HD already!

Give me more ---Sports, Movies, Music… in no particular order. :cool:

I can wait for the propaganda promoters to broadcast their biases in HD.

Yeah,:rolleyes: I want Christiane Amanpour in HD.:rolleyes:
No amount of resolution is going to bring clarity to her reporting. But of course, this is just my opinion. ;)

I just want to lust over Anderson Cooper and T.J. Holmes in full 1080i !!! :D

twcinsider

10-15-07, 04:11 PM

Well this am I found the problem to my missing channels. For the last year I've had a Video Isolation Transformer (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=180-075&CFID=8084233&CFTOKEN=64881363) installed on the coax line coming into my apartment because of a 60Hz ground hum that it was introducing into my system. Up until now I've successfully used this device even though it is noted to possibly have issues with digital cable. TWC must have changed something around yesterday because this am I pulled the transformer off the line and 705 and 711 returned. As a test I put the transformer back in the loop and the two channels were gone again. I guess it's back to ground lifts on the ac cables for my home entertainment system. :(

those things are overpriced garbage along with monster brand components. if these things were needed, it would be put in on every installation!

twcinsider

10-15-07, 04:13 PM

swap your modem. even though many of the older modems are docsis 1.0/1.1 compliant they cannot handle speeds offered today. i think version 1.1 has the QOS spec which does the various tiers/speeds

Before I waste time with TWC c/s I wanted to see if anyone else has my two biggest problems. I'm on the UWS of Manhattan, 8300HDC DVR running Navigator, standard Roadrunner.

Ever since I got this box Channel 4HD has been unwatchable - literally. Audio and video constantly break up and pixelate. This is the only channel this happens on so I don't know what TWC is going to do to fix it.

Plus, for the past week my Roadrunner connection which always maxed out at the former top speed of 7500kps is now averaging 5000kps instead of the 10MBs now possible. I'll probably swap my six year old leased Toshiba cable modem for the one TWC is using now but I have also heard that there are overloaded nodes in Manhattan that are causing many users to experience slowdowns.

When I first got the 8300HDC they sent a tech to my apt. who checked the signal strength at various points and changed a couple of splitters, but the problem with NBC (which I didn't point out to him at the time) persisted while the Roadrunner slowdown started some time after the visit.

So should I just live with this or is there anything TWC can do?

Thanks,
Ron

twcinsider

10-15-07, 04:17 PM

BTW, this does check out -- I logged onto the TWC website w/my zipcode (lower manhattan) and it sure does list 746 as A&E HD.

Is there anything in true HD on that channel anyway?

Scott

the listings provider never gets it right. incorrect listing of 746 and mssing many ethnic channels after their moves away from the lower 500's. as you may recall duplication of all them in the mid-high 500's for the past couple of months. the move/seperation created room for grouping of various ethnic groups. likely to see cnn hd on 710 before a&e on 746 in bq/manhattan systems ;-)

LL3HD

10-15-07, 04:38 PM

I just want to lust over Anderson Cooper and T.J. Holmes in full 1080i !!! :D:cool: Well, in that case, don’t ever let it be said that I stood in the way of another’s lust. ;)

I kind of have the same feeling for AC—but my lust is solely for his inheritance. :p

Agent_C

10-15-07, 04:56 PM

:cool: Well, in that case, don’t ever let it be said that I stood in the way of another’s lust. ;)

I kind of have the same feeling for AC—but my lust is solely for his inheritance. :p

:rolleyes: Another gold-digger... Take a number sonny...

LL3HD

10-15-07, 05:03 PM

:rolleyes: Another gold-digger... Take a number sonny...:D No.... He’s all yours. I was just admiring his wallet.

adrman

10-15-07, 07:51 PM

those things are overpriced garbage along with monster brand components. if these things were needed, it would be put in on every installation!

No offense, but if it was overpriced garbage ($9.95) why does it eliminate the 60hz ground loop hum that is introduced into my system by TWC? There's nothing wrong with the product other than not having wide enough bandwidth. Perhaps if my building had been wired correctly in the first place I wouldn't need one.

I do agree with your position on Monster however.

AndyHDTV

10-15-07, 08:44 PM

THIS IS DIRECTV'S NEW LINEUP HERE IN NYC.
IF U HAD THE ABILITY TO SWITCH HERE IS A REASON.
TWC-24 DIRECTV 70+

1. ESPN HD
2. ESPN2 HD
3. (Discovery) HD Theater
4. HDNet
5. HDNet Movies
6. TNT HD
7. Universal HD
8. CD USA
9. HBO HD
10. Showtime HD
11. A&E HD
12. Animal Planet HD
13. Big Ten HD
14. CNN HD
15. Discovery HD
16. History Channel HD
17. TLC HD
18. NFL Network HD
19. Science Channel HD
20. Smithsonian HD
21. TBS HD
22. Versus HD / Golf Channel HD
23. Weather Channel HD
24. The Movie Channel HD
25. SHO Too HD
26. Starz Comedy HD
27. Starz HD
28. Starz Edge HD
29. Starz Kids and Family HD
30. Bravo HD
31. MHD
32. SCI FI HD
33. USA Network HD
34. Cinemax HD
35. CNBC HD
36. Food HD
37. MGM HD
38. National Geographic HD
39. Fox Business Network HD
40. HGTV HD
41. FX HD
42. Speed Network HD
43. Fuel HD
44. The Cartoon Network HD
45. SportsNet New York HD
46. YES HD
47. CBS HD
48. NBC HD
49. ABC HD
50. FOX HD
Other HD channels
1. Miscellaneous Events Channel HD
2. PPV Events HD
3. PPV Movies HD
4. PPV Movies HD
5. PPV Movies HD
6. PPV Movies HD
7. PPV Movies HD
8. PPV Movies HD
9. PPV Movies HD
10. PPV Movies HD
HD Sports Packages IN HD
• NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan HD
• MLB Extra Innings HD
• NHL Center Ice HD
• NBA League Pass HD

coreynyc

10-15-07, 08:57 PM

Spoke too soon. Ridiculous amounts of pixelations & drop outs during ALCS tonight

I saw your post but magically, 705 & 711 started working (almost) normally yesterday afternoon. Got an occasional occurances of where the sound/picture would "stutter" (is that a drop out?) but mostly it was OK.

AndyHDTV

10-16-07, 12:36 AM

likely to see cnn hd on 710 before a&e on 746 in bq/manhattan systems ;-)

wow, was that wink some inside info.

Can i get a wink for Versus-HD & FSNY-HD? ;-)

r3alnezz

10-16-07, 02:53 AM

Does anybody know which offers better HD picture quality in Manhattan... Satellite or Cable???

HDTV Dude

10-16-07, 10:36 AM

likely to see cnn hd on 710 before a&e on 746 in bq/manhattan systems ;-)

Is this your opinion or do you have inside knowledge and if so, when?

Riverside_Guy

10-16-07, 10:52 AM

Even worse... (or better.... depending on your options)

MSG-HD is advertised on their website as being 1 of the HD channels coming by the end of the year......

Uh... we already get that channel! We got all the HD games last year, but in November it went full time (meaning we got the same HD we had been getting but with the other hours filled with SD content. Net gain of nothing.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 10:56 AM

did we get a new HD channel? I am not home, can someone confirm this for me.
350 PPV for HD Only

I see we are suppose to have A&EHD also, channel 746. 2 newbies "if they work" in B & Q arrea.

LL3HD

10-16-07, 10:58 AM

Uh... we already get that channel! We got all the HD games last year, but in November it went full time (meaning we got the same HD we had been getting but with the other hours filled with SD content. Net gain of nothing.Berk32 was referring to DirecTV not TW.;)

LL3HD

10-16-07, 11:00 AM

did we get a new HD channel? I am not home, can someone confirm this for me.
350 PPV for HD Only

I see we are suppose to have A&EHD also, channel 746. 2 newbies "if they work" in B & Q arrea.No new HD.

Riverside_Guy

10-16-07, 11:05 AM

THIS IS DIRECTV'S NEW LINEUP HERE IN NYC.
IF U HAD THE ABILITY TO SWITCH HERE IS A REASON.
TWC-24 DIRECTV 70+

Holy cannoli my friend! I'm looking through that list and damn if there aren't a ton of HD channels I'd almost kill for.

Any idea of what the monthly charge for all that is? Including DVR service, 'natch.

One issue is that I have to maintain my broadband connection, and that means sticking with TWC at $60/month for ONLY IP connectivity. It COULD make D*/TWC awfully expensive compared to what little we get from TWC.

BTW, TWC is 23 outside SI. 15 'free" and 8 pay-extra.

Oh, surprised I'm not seeing anyone ask about 741, 750. Both seem still listed, but with no data and no channel designation in the far left column of the guide.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 11:19 AM

No new HD.
what a tease? it shows 2 new channels on the list, could it be they are just slow in start-up? Or just an early website update for the Nov 1st changes?

Agent_C

10-16-07, 11:21 AM

what a tease? it shows 2 new channels on the list, could it be they are just slow in start-up? Or just an early website update for the Nov 1st changes?

What November 1st changes???

A_C

Berk32

10-16-07, 11:29 AM

what a tease? it shows 2 new channels on the list, could it be they are just slow in start-up? Or just an early website update for the Nov 1st changes?

2?

350 HDPPV has been there for a while

746 A&E HD is probably a f*ckup (since it doesn't even list UniversalHD)

Agent_C

10-16-07, 11:30 AM

Will Cable Offer 100 HD Channels In 2007?
Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 06:14 AM
Will Cable Offer 100 HD Channels In 2007?
Cable operators have boasted of higher capacity.
By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (October 2, 2007) -- DIRECTV says it will have 70 HDTV channels this month and 100 high-def channels by year's end. (It now has 31 national HD channels).

So, will your cable TV provider be able to match it?

Short answer: Not likely.

Top cable operators earlier this year boasted that they would have as much high-def capacity as DIRECTV. And some went as far to say that their HD lineups would be "as compelling" as DIRECTV.

"I'm 100 percent confident that we will have as compelling a HDTV lineup as DIRECTV," Melinda Witmer, Time Warner's chief programming officer, told TVPredictions.com last March.
Witmer added that Time Warner would have the capacity for 100 high-def channels by year's end. And Time Warner Cable CFO Landel Hobbs told an investors conference in June that the cable operator would have "virtually unlimited" capacity for high-def by year's end.

But Time Warner, which now has around 30 HD channels in some markets, was not the only cable operator talking a good game earlier in the year.

Source: TVPredictions.com

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 12:11 PM

THIS IS DIRECTV'S NEW LINEUP HERE IN NYC.
IF U HAD THE ABILITY TO SWITCH HERE IS A REASON.
TWC-24 DIRECTV 70+

While Direct TV's list is impressive, what good is all those channels when most of them are extra ($) or premiums. IMO the only thing missing for us is a news, music amd food channel im HD, maybe shopping channel also, then we will have the main chaanels that normal people watch on an everyday basis. We have sports out if the A@#$hole over here in NYC on TWC. We do have some Movie choices and supposedly as the channel listing om the web states we will have PPVHD soon also. Right now with the TV season in full swing the majority of people watch the big 5 anyway. Which we already get in HD!

While more channels are needed, more is always better! I do appreciate that but if they add the 4 types of channels above this would give us a good variety of HD channelsof almost every channel type. There are some of you that have specific channels that are needed sooner then later.

Just liike that study from last year stated the average person only watched abuut 20-30 channels on a monthly basis so right there TWC is right up to avarage,

UnnDunn

10-16-07, 12:15 PM

The thing about DirecTV is that all of their simulcast HD channels are on the same channel numbers as the SD channels, and the box automatically selects the HD channel, if available (and if you subscribe to HD Access.) So when they add the HD simulcast of your favorite channel, all of a sudden it'll be in HD and you don't have to do a thing (not even memorize a new channel number.)

Someone tell me why the cable folks can't do that? Surely these boxes have enough processing power to be able to prioritize an HD stream over an SD stream when you choose a channel...

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 12:19 PM

What November 1st changes???

A_C
more of a prediction, or reading between the lines, TWC stated that Nov 1st was the expected release date of TBSHD. But we have it now and they usually don't add only one channel so call it my blind faith. Hey it worked with TBSHD,

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 12:30 PM

scott_bernstein

10-16-07, 12:44 PM

did we get a new HD channel? I am not home, can someone confirm this for me.
350 PPV for HD Only

I see we are suppose to have A&EHD also, channel 746. 2 newbies "if they work" in B & Q arrea.

350 has been around for a year or so. There's almost never anything on it. Occasionally a live HD boxing event shows up that costs near on $50.....When an event is on that channel, it actually pops up in the guide.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 12:45 PM

2?

350 HDPPV has been there for a while

Are you sure? I know SI had PPVHD but not in Brooklyn & Queens. Also the B&Q list does show A&EHD746 and Unviversal HD 741 as well as the updated channels for the 15th.

scott_bernstein

10-16-07, 12:45 PM

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 12:47 PM

Thanks Scott, I was just a little shokced because this is the first time I see it on their list. I guess this is a way of showing customers they have more HD channels.

scott_bernstein

10-16-07, 12:48 PM

Oh, surprised I'm not seeing anyone ask about 741, 750. Both seem still listed, but with no data and no channel designation in the far left column of the guide.
....because when you tune to them, they tell you the new channel numbers that those channels have been moved to.

The really funny thing is that now USA has moved to channel 16 (I believe), but UHD has stayed at 740....Shouldn't it have moved to 716 to correspond???

Scott

Berk32

10-16-07, 01:21 PM

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 01:21 PM

....because when you tune to them, they tell you the new channel numbers that those channels have been moved to.

The really funny thing is that now USA has moved to channel 16 (I believe), but UHD has stayed at 740....Shouldn't it have moved to 716 to correspond???

Scott
UniversalHD is a stand alone station, Right now it showcases various shows that are Wbradcasted on the NBCUniversal universe. When USA HD becomes available to TWC customers then 716 will be taken. Once this happen the other NBC nets will be sure to follow then we will see what NBC decides to to with UnDiscovery us keeping Discovery theather running while all their channels are available for HD also. iversal HD.

JBBO3314

10-16-07, 01:27 PM

Do we have the Biography Channel? If so whats the channel? If not, anyword if we are getting this.

TonyNYC

10-16-07, 01:30 PM

SciFi-HD would be great for the upcoming season of Battlestar Galactica.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 02:10 PM

SciFi-HD would be great for the upcoming season of Battlestar Galactica.
upcoming and FINAL (sigh)season of BSG, well at least we sill have Universal HD, As it gets bigger the shows and movies get newer. I was able to watch the complete Season 3 in its HD glory and I hope season 4 will not air that far behing the scifi premiere airings. A lot could happen between now and the 1st quarter of 2008.

UnnDunn

10-16-07, 02:23 PM

Shoot, I'm glad this will be the final BSG season. It means they know to end it before it jumps the shark. Unlike the producers of 24.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 02:24 PM

Do we have the Biography Channel? If so whats the channel? If not, anyword if we are getting this.
there is NO word on any HD channels being added to the NYC landscape. When we hear something we are quick to share other then that we go by assumptions and predictions here and that is only for channels that we know TWC has rights to.
VsHD
NGHD
A&EHD
MHD
Food Networkhd
abc FAMILY hd and ESPNNEWSHD WHEN AVAILABLE
and others
to the best of my knowledge TWC only has an agreement with A&EHD not the A&E family of networks so I wouldn't hold your breathe for BiographyHD any time soon.

hpnas

10-16-07, 02:43 PM

TWC HD is a joke, I'm going to inquire with my landlord about getting DirecTV

TonyNYC

10-16-07, 02:46 PM

upcoming and FINAL (sigh)season of BSG, well at least we sill have Universal HD, As it gets bigger the shows and movies get newer. I was able to watch the complete Season 3 in its HD glory and I hope season 4 will not air that far behing the scifi premiere airings. A lot could happen between now and the 1st quarter of 2008.

Oh wow, I did not know that the show was coming to an end and did a search for more information. 22-episode left for 2008, but from what the press release stated from from the Sci Fi Channel, "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and finally, an end."

4 season feels so short, but at least it was not canceled. Just a story that was not going to last the amount of years like ST:TNG.

I will miss it though. BSG has been one of the best series I have seen in a few years.

TonyNYC

10-16-07, 02:55 PM

TWC HD is a joke, I'm going to inquire with my landlord about getting DirecTV

I am going to check and see if "by luck" my window faces the southern skies and if so, talk to someone about sticking one outside the window of my apartment building.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 02:58 PM

Shoot, I'm glad this will be the final BSG season. It means they know to end it before it jumps the shark. Unlike the producers of 24.
But there aren't any sharks in space.:D
I don't know, other then cost this show could have made it to a 5th even 6th year. Space and the beyond is huge and there is always a stpry that can be found.
While 24 might be going overboard in giving Mr bauer a 7th really bad day. It is hard to use the "Jump the shark" saying for a show like this. This saying is when a show has that one point where the series goes down hill from there. Either a cast addition, a significant moment or out of character stunt that we all remember. This term has been used a little bit to often and has lost its true meaning lately. Just because you may have lost inerest doesn't mean it has gone downhill from any certain point. There are many shows in recent memory that may have jumped that dam shark, but 24 isn't one of them. It is a show that last longer then it should b on, like Scrubs

Friends: Monica marries Chandler
Mad about you: Had a baby
x-files: Mulder abducted
Buffy: Buffy should have stayed dead.
Fraiser: Daphney & Niles get together.
to name a few true JTS moments.

JBBO3314

10-16-07, 03:05 PM

I am going to check and see if "by luck" my window faces the southern skies and if so, talk to someone about sticking one outside the window of my apartment building.

Good luck with that. I tried but no luck or TWC would have been a memory by now.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 03:11 PM

Oh wow, I did not know that the show was coming to an end and did a search for more information. 22-episode left for 2008, but from what the press release stated from from the Sci Fi Channel, "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and finally, an end."

4 season feels so short, but at least it was not canceled. Just a story that was not going to last the amount of years like ST:TNG.

I will miss it though. BSG has been one of the best series I have seen in a few years.
While it does seem short at least they have a destination unlike ST:TNG. TNG was about exploring even furtuer then Captain Kirk and freinds went. So it is understandable why this shoiw stayed on for so long and the fact that it stayed at #1 in 1st run syndication for years. That helped it stay on TV for so long, I read an article once a long time agao that because it was such a huge hit in Syndication and not on a broadcast network it actually was making 10 times the amount a show would on a regular netwrok run. That would probbably be impossible to do now.

I just hope Scifi doesn't plan to split the season like they sometimes do.. But the question is what type of endding will it be. Do they make it to Earth, do they get totally destroyed by the Cylons, or do they avoid Earth like the original series because Earth is still primitive?

TonyNYC

10-16-07, 03:19 PM

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 03:40 PM

I tell you gguys, while TWC is a tad(REALLY) short in HD offerings I think it would be very hard for me to enjoy many more choices if given. All the HD I need is already given. Right now I DVR close to 25 hrs of the primetimare e schedule which is all HD. I am covered on almost all our local sport teams with most games in HD. We are only missing FSNYHD which I am still amazed that this isn't a city wide channel. But I guess the teams that make the big bucks are already covered so they aren't in a rush for that last channel., When it come to movie I do have the big 2 premiums which also have an HD channel and lets not forget HDNet Movies which is showing some good movies lately.. So I am booked right now especially with my occassional TNT HD movie or DiscoveryHD science lesson.
Of course I wouldn't mind getting my grove on with some HD music videos or end up in that "Critical Situation" while waiting for "the Final Report" on NGHD, Then I will figure out what to make for dinner on the food net HD, Check the temp for tomorrow on the weather channelHD, but right now time is very limited, Come December, I may be screaming where is this channel and where is that channel, but not right now.

TonyNYC

10-16-07, 03:51 PM

I do prefer TWC as my provider over that of RCN for TV viewing, but I wish along with many of you forum patrons that we just got an impression from the company that the service in general for HD channel content would improve.

This is a scenario money cannot fix. I can simply go out and buy a dish for DirecTV and hope that it works, but that is my problem. Will it? You just get that feeling that we are just plain stuck without option.

I am lucky that I have an option between RCN and TWC in my building for cable internet, tv, and digital phone, but both companies have very little to offer in the HD department.

FSNY in HD would be great too, but if I had to choose, I would rather get VsHD. It would give me more NHL games in HD.

nuttyinnyc

10-16-07, 03:56 PM

It will be interesting to see how the subject of Earth is approached.

Also, while it has been a long time since I have seen the series with Lorne Greene and Richard Hatch, religion has played a huge role in this version of BSG. Especially with the Cylons.

Who knows what could happen. Maybe both will find peace after some huge final clash.
AMen Brother!!! While the religous part actually turned me away from this series in the middle of of S1. but I couldn't stay away and I jumped back on and was very entertained every since. Religon has played a huge factor on this shhow, the original was just about fleeing toasters.
I just hope they do have a great battle in the end, Like the battle in Babalon 5 between Earth and earth,(Not the final all vs shadows thgat sucked) and ST:DSN right after they were forced from the station that was a good one also.
I would hate for a build up to something big then sign a treaty, BOOO HIISSSSSS!!!!

Fingers crossed XX

scott_bernstein

10-16-07, 04:26 PM

Universal HD should actually move to the 790s.... as it corresponds to nothing...

(USA-HD, BravoHD, and SciFi-HD all exist now)

Hmm....intereseting....I wasn't aware of USA-HD. Not that there'd really be much of interest to me on that channel (I NEVER watched USA-SD).

The whole channel numbering thing seems a little shortsighted for HD. I mean, don't they expect that there might be more than 10 HD channels that have no matching SD channel?

Or what happens if TWC ever adds any of the multiplexed premiums? Yes, HBO is on ch. 80, but the HBO suite is on 201-207. (And the 900 channel block is already taken). Similar issues exist for the Starz multiplexes that already have HD equivalents.

UnnDunn

10-16-07, 04:41 PM

Hmm....intereseting....I wasn't aware of USA-HD. Not that there'd really be much of interest to me on that channel (I NEVER watched USA-SD).

The whole channel numbering thing seems a little shortsighted for HD. I mean, don't they expect that there might be more than 10 HD channels that have no matching SD channel?

Or what happens if TWC ever adds any of the multiplexed premiums? Yes, HBO is on ch. 80, but the HBO suite is on 201-207. (And the 900 channel block is already taken). Similar issues exist for the Starz multiplexes that already have HD equivalents.
This is why DirecTV's solution makes the most sense. Have both the HD and SD feeds on the same channel number, prioritize the HD channel if available, but give you a way to switch between them at will (either by tunung the same channel number again, or having a button on the remote that lets you switch (such as the * button on TWC remotes.)

scott_bernstein

10-16-07, 04:56 PM

This is why DirecTV's solution makes the most sense. Have both the HD and SD feeds on the same channel number, prioritize the HD channel if available, but give you a way to switch between them at will (either by tunung the same channel number again, or having a button on the remote that lets you switch (such as the * button on TWC remotes.)

I seem to recall someone mentioning that the new Navigator software does something like this?

Scott

HRAMOS1965

10-16-07, 05:08 PM

When Will We Start Getting This New Software In New York City

AndyHDTV

10-16-07, 07:21 PM

analog hbo channel 80 is now gone, more bandwidth and no HD channels! woohoo!
:)

trtjj

10-16-07, 09:21 PM

AndyHDTV

10-16-07, 10:51 PM

Does anyone know if TWC is going to update thier 8300 HD DVR boxes. I've turned in two of them in the past couple of years and I am having problems again. I continue to get freezes, skips and reboots.

the 8300 hd is a passport system which they no longer replace.
they are handing out 8300 hdc which is newer and runs on mystro digital navigator.
(which is the most annoying thing in the history of mankind)