The premium channels are gone but the message announcement of the move are still occupying the frequencies.
They put in place The Movie Channel frequency the new FOX BUSSINESS, yeah like we need another bussiness channel and worst of all another FOX channel !!!:mad:

Actually - these system messages do not occupy frequencies.

I thought they seperated them? Are you sure McCarver will still be teamed with Buck? Buck is #1 he will always be anouncing as long as Fox has a sports contract(this generation's Bob Costas), but during the regular season Buck was with other poeple.

TBS announcers are better than Buck and Tim on Fox. They're homers and annoy me to no friggin end. Buck does have the voice though, but his announcing skills are severely lacking. You wanna hear good announcing? The Mets announcers trump almost any announcing team out there, barnone.

Yup, same here on TWC Hudson Valley. HBO is no now off of ch 3 and on the digital tier.


I just noticed that, cool.

The Mets announcers trump almost any announcing team out there, barnone.Isn’t Keith Hernandez on their broadcast team?
Barnone? :eek: :p
He sounds like the annoying guy at the end of the bar that won’t shut up while the game is on, with nothing interesting to offer.


And regarding TBS... Chip Caray made more announcing errors in this post season than Ralph Kinner has in his entire career. At least with Kinner they were flubs. With Caray they’re blatant misinformation errors. :)

2?

350 HDPPV has been there for a while

746 A&E HD is probably a f*ckup (since it doesn't even list UniversalHD)

350 PPV has had exactly how many HD broadcasts? One in all of 2007? Maybe 2? The ONLY time I ever heard of one was reading this forum... I think it was a certain prize fight. Mostly it lists an all-day ticket of nothing at $0.00 cost.

UniversalHD is a stand alone station, Right now it showcases various shows that are Wbradcasted on the NBCUniversal universe. When USA HD becomes available to TWC customers then 716 will be taken. Once this happen the other NBC nets will be sure to follow then we will see what NBC decides to to with UnDiscovery us keeping Discovery theather running while all their channels are available for HD also. iversal HD.

Except that USA HD is probably one of the two HD channels they'll add in 2009 (NYC of course). I think the 2 they plan to add in 2008 are already spoken for; and probably one of them is Fox Business in HD, something we are clearly clamoring for.

TWC HD is a joke, I'm going to inquire with my landlord about getting DirecTV

Actually, "TWC HD" is an oxymoron.

Oh wow, I did not know that the show was coming to an end and did a search for more information. 22-episode left for 2008, but from what the press release stated from from the Sci Fi Channel, "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and finally, an end."

4 season feels so short, but at least it was not canceled. Just a story that was not going to last the amount of years like ST:TNG.

I will miss it though. BSG has been one of the best series I have seen in a few years.

Keep an eye out, I think there's a 2 hour "special" this fall before the final season get underway next year.

Besides, how many BSG fans think Katee should BE Jaime Summers, and not the evil bionic woman?

Plus we don't know what the time differential will be for UnHD's HD version. It COULD be long enough that we'll watch the SD then the HD if there's anything like 4 weeks between. Which says they will probably have 4-8 week gap in there.

At least Torchwood seems to be one week behind... but that's probably because Cuban bought it, whereas SciFi and UnHD come from the same parent.

I am going to check and see if "by luck" my window faces the southern skies and if so, talk to someone about sticking one outside the window of my apartment building.

More important is the elevation. I heard it's 30 degrees, so it's roughly the bottom first third from the horizon to overhead... I have TONS of southern sky view BUT at that 30 degrees, it would only work IF it got through a small slit between two big buildings. Starting around 45 degrees I have clear sky.

Do they make it to Earth, do they get totally destroyed by the Cylons, or do they avoid Earth like the original series because Earth is still primitive?

Cylons go skin jobs only, they melt down all the centurions (er, toasters), they intermarry and in 50 years there's no more human vs. cylon.

Hell, I'd marry 6 in a flash!

Hmm....intereseting....I wasn't aware of USA-HD. Not that there'd really be much of interest to me on that channel (I NEVER watched USA-SD).

The whole channel numbering thing seems a little shortsighted for HD. I mean, don't they expect that there might be more than 10 HD channels that have no matching SD channel?

Or what happens if TWC ever adds any of the multiplexed premiums? Yes, HBO is on ch. 80, but the HBO suite is on 201-207. (And the 900 channel block is already taken). Similar issues exist for the Starz multiplexes that already have HD equivalents.

At the current pace of 2 added HD channel per calendar year, it's going to be 2050 before that becomes any kind of factor.

As it seems to be a "cable practice" to count every movie playing on a HD PPV channel, they will probably put one in and say they added 30 HD channels.

At the current pace of 2 added HD channel per calendar year, it's going to be 2050 before that becomes any kind of factor.
Well, implementing either one of 2 things will allow for a veritable flood of HD channels:
1. Switched Digital Video
2. Analog channel shutoff (and not just 1 or 2 randoms, but most or all of them)

Once one of these occurred, they will have enough bandwidth to provide all of the HD channels that they want to us.....

Either one or both of these seem to be scheduled for Manhattan for the 2008 calendar year. So we'll see what happens.

I have every single episode recorded for that new Bionic Woman series but never got the time to watch it. I will catch them all this weekend for a marathon. I have heard it was pretty good.

Looks like I am stuck for clearance of the southern sky and I am on the 3rd floor. I doubt I am going to get a solid signal due to my side of the building being surrounded. I see one neighbor on the other side of my apartment building has one rigged up. Too bad I do not know them so I could ask questions.

If I ever decide to move, I am for sure going to look into surroundings more. If you ever travel on the J line from Queens to Brooklyn, you will lose count seeing the many satellite dishes on the rooftops.

1. Switched Digital Video
2. Analog channel shutoff (and not just 1 or 2 randoms, but most or all of them)

I read that cable operators are required to guarantee customers will receive broadcast channels until February 2012.

So if I am reading this right, some analog channels will have to remain for a while.

Looks like the first option might be the best option.

I read that cable operators are required to guarantee customers will receive broadcast channels until February 2012.

So if I am reading this right, some analog channels will have to remain for a while.

Looks like the first option might be the best option.

This bears no relation to the pending analog channel shutoff. All TWC has to do is mandate that everyone use a digital box (which they have already done in Staten Island). Or just keep 2,4,7,9,11 and 13 on analog. Which eliminates 70 some odd channels, which is more than enough for hundreds of HD channels, foreign language SD channels, shopping channels, "business class" cable modem speeds, or whatever other crap TWC can come up with to fill their bandwidth.

Gotcha. Guess we will just have to sit back and see what happens at this point.

TBS announcers are better than Buck and Tim on Fox. They're homers and annoy me to no friggin end. Buck does have the voice though, but his announcing skills are severely lacking. You wanna hear good announcing? The Mets announcers trump almost any announcing team out there, barnone.
Keith Hernandez? Please don't tell me he is the one you are talking about?
I am with you Buck can be great but after 11+ years on Fox you would think he would be bringing his A game, but he still is lacking. I still think Buck is the best of the bunch, Mr Gwynn god bless him for being one of the best hitters of his time, just doesn't have the voice for basball games, put him in the studio. We have TBS for the next 5 years so hopefully they will screen their staff better for the years to come. Maybe they might recruit Suzyn Waldman. HA HA HA HA!

I read that cable operators are required to guarantee customers will receive broadcast channels until February 2012.

So if I am reading this right, some analog channels will have to remain for a while.

Looks like the first option might be the best option.
That mandate is more for areas that aren't DTV ready. Despite TWC NYC flaws we are DTV ready and once they convince(Force) the remaining few that still have the analog boxes to make the switch then we can expect an all digital system. I still wonder out of 2 million+ customers in ths area, how many are still not willing to make the change?

Change is good! why can't they see that? Unfortenately for us, if you are reading this you already made the change.

I still wonder out of 2 million+ customers in ths area, how many are still not willing to make the change?


Probably those with chipped analog boxes from the early 1990's and getting free, unscrambled premium channels. Or whatever is left to unscramble at this rate. :D

I still wonder out of 2 million+ customers in this area, how many are still not willing to make the change?

I'm wondering why they even have a choice?

Couldn't TWC simply give 30-days notice that their analog boxes will no longer work. In which time they must swap the box to continue service?

I'd imagine the prospect of a blank screen would be quite motivating. :p

A_C

I'm wondering why they even have a choice?

Couldn't TWC simply give 30-days notice that their analog boxes will no longer work. In which time they must swap the box to continue service?

I'd imagine the prospect of a blank screen would be quite motivating. :p

A_C
There might be some Law that prevents them from pushing this service on others. IMO it would be in the interest of TWC to force everyone to get it. It would mean much more in revenue. There has to be some reason, there are areas that are able to use the cable line direct with no STB. Those people woule have to add to their bill because they nneed a STB to decode the digtial signal now on their 15 y/o TV. Does someone here know why? there has to be a reason or law to prevent them from making the bigger bucks from that umtapped resource.
I was just thinking that maybe it has something to do with the OTA stations, they have to be able to be seen wit or without a STB until they have 100% coverage, but that doesn't explain why they can't force people to get it.

I have heard it was pretty good.

Someone done lied to you bro, that show is horrible.

Keith Hernandez? Please don't tell me he is the one you are talking about?
I am with you Buck can be great but after 11+ years on Fox you would think he would be bringing his A game, but he still is lacking. I still think Buck is the best of the bunch, Mr Gwynn god bless him for being one of the best hitters of his time, just doesn't have the voice for basball games, put him in the studio. We have TBS for the next 5 years so hopefully they will screen their staff better for the years to come. Maybe they might recruit Suzyn Waldman. HA HA HA HA!

I was actually talkin about the Gary Cohen/Ron Darling combo. Keith is alright and makes for great comic relief....some of the stuff he comes up with are hilarious! LOL

I'm with ya on Gwynn.........my 9 month old daughter has a manlier voice than he does....he should be announcing for the WNBA LMAO!

There might be some Law that prevents them from pushing this service on others. IMO it would be in the interest of TWC to force everyone to get it. It would mean much more in revenue. There has to be some reason, there are areas that are able to use the cable line direct with no STB. Those people woule have to add to their bill because they nneed a STB to decode the digtial signal now on their 15 y/o TV. Does someone here know why? there has to be a reason or law to prevent them from making the bigger bucks from that umtapped resource.
I was just thinking that maybe it has something to do with the OTA stations, they have to be able to be seen wit or without a STB until they have 100% coverage, but that doesn't explain why they can't force people to get it.


no law against it. but a forced change always generates some angry customers.it's a long process. look how long it took to remove a handful of premiums. depending on area, analog penetration is 10-30% and 10-50% out of those were premium customers. in the case of staten island, competition from fios is coming so the process was accelerated. also the plant is 100% rebuilt as opposed to 90 something % in manhattan. as i stated in previous post many commercial buildings in manhattan are still analog 550mhz and these are very valuable customers. the change is coming as you see analog premiums gone. channels on the lowest tier which equals about 30 (local networks, public access, etc) will remain analog for the forseeable future. channels in the standard tier (below channel 75) will slowly disappear. removal of analog requires a lot of capital and labor; sending out of notices, educating customers, spike to call centers, truck rolls, converter cost, etc etc. be patient

Probably those with chipped analog boxes from the early 1990's and getting free, unscrambled premium channels. Or whatever is left to unscramble at this rate. :D

at this point those with altered analog boxes are only about to steal $40/month worth of service (standard cable) versus the 1990's where there was premium, pay per view, etc and thousands of dollars were lost due to theft.

Actually - these system messages do not occupy frequencies.

yes and no. for those with digital boxes , the message seen on ch 66, 69, 79, 80 (former premiums) is generated by the converter and does not occupy bandwith (or frequencies as you call it)

for those using analog boxes tuning to those channel #'s there is a character generated message which is occupying bandwith. if you connect the cable directly to your tv you will see it even though its scrambled. they will be eventually be removed.

The premium channels are gone but the message announcement of the move are still occupying the frequencies.
They put in place The Movie Channel frequency the new FOX BUSSINESS, yeah like we need another bussiness channel and worst of all another FOX channel !!!:mad:

yes fox business in analog (and digital) like i reported here last month:) don't know details but the launch and carriage of fox business in nyc (manhattan specifically) was mutually beneficial for fox and twc. some may recall murdoch and twc butting heads when twc refused to carry fox news when it first launched. giuluiani wanted to put the channel on the city's municipal access channel (then called crosswalks, now its nyctv). a settlement was eventually reach and one of the crosswalks channels was moved from 72 to 93 and fox news occupied ch.72 for some time. fox news at the time offered operators in the neighborhood of $10 per customer for launch support. several years later they've beat all other all news channels are now demanding hefty license fees.

...the launch and carriage of fox business in nyc (manhattan specifically) was mutually beneficial for fox and twc...

...fox news at the time offered operators in the neighborhood of $10 per customer for launch support. several years later they've beat all other all news channels are now demanding hefty license fees.Can’t argue with success. :cool:

The unfortunate reality is that many folks have preconceived prejudices whenever they here the "F" word-- “Fox”. :eek:

I call it the Susquehanna Hat Company complex. :(

Just the mere mention of the "F" word and people freak. :eek:

If you’re not familiar with the analogy, just watch this entire video and substitute the "F" word whenever they say Susquehanna Hat Company
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crL2jpLcCXk

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yes and no. for those with digital boxes , the message seen on ch 66, 69, 79, 80 (former premiums) is generated by the converter and does not occupy bandwith (or frequencies as you call it)

for those using analog boxes tuning to those channel #'s there is a character generated message which is occupying bandwith. if you connect the cable directly to your tv you will see it even though its scrambled. they will be eventually be removed.

blah.... yes I was only talking about digital..... and worded it very poorly.....

I need to stay away from these boards when I'm at work.... give myself time to write....

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I need to stay away from these boards when I'm at work...:D Yeah... Stay away… ;)

Have you ever seen this thread?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=905201

I have a question for you guys. I just bought an Olevia 232t 32inch hdtv (great by the way)

The TV supports 740p and 1080i. The native resolution of the tv is 1366 x 768.

Now i know that my hd cable box allows you to choose display output. I dont know whether to set mine to 720p or 1080i.

Any feedback??

I have a question for you guys. I just bought an Olevia 232t 32inch hdtv (great by the way)

The TV supports 740p and 1080i. The native resolution of the tv is 1366 x 768.

Now i know that my hd cable box allows you to choose display output. I dont know whether to set mine to 720p or 1080i.

Any feedback??
Set it at 720p. Setting it at 1080i will be a waste, since it will cut the framerate in half and your TV can't display the extra pixels anyway.

no law against it. but a forced change always generates some angry customers.it's a long process. look how long it took to remove a handful of premiums.

Well, my take on the issue is that I KNOW TWC knew all about this at least 6 years ago... and decided to sit on their hands and do... NOTHING. Not only that, but there were VERY compelling reasons to get folks to swap out their analog boxes... there were a TON of channels a digital box could get that an analog box could NOT get. All of the premium sub channels AND all the Music Choice channels only can be received with a digital box. So folks were paying for stuff they couldn't get, all because they had one of those analog boxes.

Matter of fact, CSRs 6 years ago were told to tell customers that they really had to swap boxes because "soon" they would stop getting all sorts of other channels. I know this because my folks were in that situation... missing a lot of stuff that I got while we were both paying the same. I called TWC to make sure there wasn't any gotchas and that's when I heard that "soon" stuff was going to be cut off.

I dare say if they had actually gotten a tad serious about this, in the ensuing 6 years there would be very, very few analog boxes left behind. Undoubtedly, the reason it did NOT happen was that it might have cost them a few bucks. I mean how could they hand out millions of bucks in bonuses to their top execs if they had made any effort?

You should set your set top box to pass through and let your TV do the scaling.

I'm wondering why they even have a choice?

Couldn't TWC simply give 30-days notice that their analog boxes will no longer work. In which time they must swap the box to continue service?

I'd imagine the prospect of a blank screen would be quite motivating. :p

A_C

I purchased a house two years ago that was a analog customer of TWC Hudson Valley. I ordered cable and internet service from TWC and was surprised that I was told that they would need to make a visit. I told them that I could easily go to the cable store and install the boxes myself. TWC explained that they had to run a new drop from the pole and rewire the house because the coax that was installed could not support digital cable and a modem. Perhaps it is not as easy to convert some analog customers to digital for customers who have older installs.

Staten Island's system was built out in the early 90's so it might have been easier to mandate digital only boxes since the existing infrastructure could support it.

blah.... yes I was only talking about digital..... and worded it very poorly.....

I need to stay away from these boards when I'm at work.... give myself time to write....
At work is the best time to chat with you guys, it makes my day fly by faster and haster. On days when Lost and Heroes is new, I think my actualy work gets sideline for bitching with you guys, I guess this is ecactly the reason why people hget fired for using the net t work. Hey as long as my Inbox and to do list is emmpty I can chat away. Actually at times I look very busy when I am Posting here that no one bothers me with extra work, LOL!

Matter of fact, CSRs 6 years ago were told to tell customers that they really had to swap boxes because "soon" they would stop getting all sorts of other channels. I know this because my folks were in that situation... missing a lot of stuff that I got while we were both paying the same. I called TWC to make sure there wasn't any gotchas and that's when I heard that "soon" stuff was going to be cut off.


I remember this, as I was the one who gets the mail in my house and I called them, They claimed at the time they weren;t forcing us to get DTV now but in a gfew years everyone would HAVE to have it and then they explained the extras and explain to me how my bill would basically the same. If I recall corectly I did switch and my bill only went up $5. But now like you said 6 years later nd they STILL haven't made everyone make the change, they dropped the ball somewhere.
I don't think cost was the issue, because the gains in revenue would certainly outweigh the cost of these boxes. The wiring was already in place.

You should set your set top box to pass through and let your TV do the scaling.


What exactly does that mean??

I'm wondering why they even have a choice?

Couldn't TWC simply give 30-days notice that their analog boxes will no longer work. In which time they must swap the box to continue service?

I'd imagine the prospect of a blank screen would be quite motivating. :p

A_C

This WILL happen. It's all a question of how aggressive that TWC wants to be.

Scott

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, This morning I turned on Today In New York and caught the end of an the newscaster saying "after the boxes stop working customers can swap them in for the new digital boxes at any Best Buy location" or something to that affect (coffee was not in my veins yet so I could be all confused about it, but it sounded like they were announcing the need to swap out analog boxes for digital in order to continue service... anyone catch that or have more info?

EDIT:
Yep it was this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/consumerproducts-SP/idUSN1735317420071018

sorry no coffee makes me confuse easy

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, This morning I turned on Today In New York and caught the end of an the newscaster saying "after the boxes stop working customers can swap them in for the new digital boxes at any Best Buy location" or something to that affect (coffee was not in my veins yet so I could be all confused about it, but it sounded like they were announcing the need to swap out analog boxes for digital in order to continue service... anyone catch that or have more info?

It was about BB no longer selling analog televisions.

Here is a Best Buy news article from the Associated Press for more information.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BEST_BUY_ANALOG_TELEVISIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Any speculation on why TWC will be simulcasting CSPAN2 on channels 60 and 148 beginning 11/15?

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

Any speculation on why TWC will be simulcasting CSPAN2 on channels 60 and 148 beginning 11/15?

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

pretty obvious this is next channel to be moved the analog tier. the cspan's have a small but loyal audience. at some point in the future all cspans will be on consecutive channels

147 cspan
148 cspan2
149 cspan3

Holy cannoli my friend! I'm looking through that list and damn if there aren't a ton of HD channels I'd almost kill for.

Any idea of what the monthly charge for all that is? Including DVR service, 'natch.

One issue is that I have to maintain my broadband connection, and that means sticking with TWC at $60/month for ONLY IP connectivity. It COULD make D*/TWC awfully expensive compared to what little we get from TWC.
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Due to info I read here, I discovered that TWC has changed it's RoadRunner pricing. I called TWC, am now paying $45/mo for the same speed internet connection I was paying $60 for (this is at a location where I have no cable TV, just RR). Of course, they would never had told me and would have kept charging the same $60/mo without my call because it was "an old account". Was this legal? :mad:

pretty obvious this is next channel to be moved the analog tier. the cspan's have a small but loyal audience. at some point in the future all cspans will be on consecutive channels

147 cspan
148 cspan2
149 cspan3

that's more excellent news, can't wait til both cspan 1 & 2 are gone from analog so we can get 4-6 more hd channels out of it! :)

hopefully before the end of the year.

depending on area, analog penetration is 10-30% and 10-50% out of those were premium customers. as i stated in previous post many commercial buildings in manhattan are still analog 550mhz and these are very valuable customers. the change is coming as you see analog premiums gone. channels on the lowest tier which equals about 30 (local networks, public access, etc) will remain analog for the forseeable future. channels in the standard tier (below channel 75) will slowly disappear.


860mhz & 550mhz.....

1. Is the 75 analog channels left, broadcasted in digital? YES..
2. Does 10 SD channels fit into a 6mhz frequency? YES..
3. how much bandwidth does a digital simulcast of all analog channels take up? ABOUT 48Mmhz..
4. So why doesn't TWC just broadcast the 75 standard tier channels in digital between the 500mhz and 550mhz frequencies.
5. Thoses unfortunate buildings could still have all their standard channels just now all in digital & with a digital box.
6. All these digital channels are above 550 curently, just move them below 550.
7. Is it really that hard? Can't TWC just do it for half of them and just keep the 30 locals on analog?

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the first 2 areas are high theft areas. some parts of the brooklyn system have addressable taps because of theft (and also diffculity accessing drops for install/disconnect)

analog channel elimination does not mean overnite use of the reclaimed bandwith. all areas are actively targeted for analog eliminiation but how long it takes will depend on customers giving up analog boxes and plant conditions. s.man is the worst since there are many commercial buildings with 550mhz plant and some residential buildings with difficult management that will not allow proper upgrade or rewire.


TWCINSIDER, Any updates on this situation?

It seemed as though things were improving since I last brought up excess compression on TWC, but last night NBC was close to unwatchable. Even the most subtle movements on My Name Is Earl & The Office produced motion artifacts.

I kicked in the MPEG filter on my XBR4, which cleaned it up to a point, but this is really unacceptable. :mad:

A_C

I have TWC in NYC and DirecTV in my country home. They have now added 47HD channels with the new satellites. Most are just mirrors of the sd version of the network but in HD. This is probably a dumb question. Let's say by a miracle everyone tomorrow had an HD box(dvr or regular) Since all these boxes have the ability to output at the sd 480i, would it be technically possible for TWC to ONLY send out the HD version of the networks that broadcast sd and hd and let the boxes do the sd decoding for those without hd tv's? Would there still be a bandwidth problem if this was done? The picture quality of the sd signal would I'm sure not be great but I'm just asking if it could be done.

It seemed as though things were improving since I last brought up excess compression on TWC, but last night NBC was close to unwatchable. Even the most subtle movements on My Name Is Earl & The Office produced motion artifacts.

I kicked in the MPEG filter on my XBR4, which cleaned it up to a point, but this is really unacceptable. :mad:

A_C

Page back a few pages and you'll see my research (and the channel mapping) has proven you absolutely correct.

Did anyone notice this on the Channel Changes page?

Effective November 21, 2007 the price of the digital sports tier will increase from '.95/mth to $2.95/mth.

Actually, the current price is $1.95 but...I wonder if the rate increase means that the NFL has caved in and is letting TWC charge extra for the NFL Network rather than add it to DTV.

The first NFL Network regular season game broadcast is on November 22 (Thanksgiving)
Could be coincedental or could be a good sign...the price of the sports tier going up the day before NFLN games start??? Why would they be raising prices on a Wednesday in the middle of the month?

I am sure it would be a big news story and we would have heard about this by now but what is up with a $1.00 increase to a package that has little value or interest to most people?

Did anyone notice this on the Channel Changes page?



Actually, the current price is $1.95 but...I wonder if the rate increase means that the NFL has caved in and is letting TWC charge extra for the NFL Network rather than add it to DTV.

The first NFL Network regular season game broadcast is on November 22 (Thanksgiving)
Could be coincedental or could be a good sign...the price of the sports tier going up the day before NFLN games start??? Why would they be raising prices on a Wednesday in the middle of the month?

I am sure it would be a big news story and we would have heard about this by now but what is up with a $1.00 increase to a package that has little value or interest to most people?

As long as the SD sportspack is still included with the HDXtra package - I'll be VERY happy :) (even more happy if we get the NFL Network games in HD)

(and its probably a typo... the ' is probably supposed to be a 1...)

The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future:

Azteca America, Chinese Channel, Chinese Cinema, CNN On Demand, Court TV On Demand, Encore, Encore Action, Encore Drama, Encore Love, Encore Mystery, Encore Western, Encore WAM, GAC On Demand, HGTV, HITN, Sci Fi Channel, Sleuth, Starz, Starz Cinema, Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, Starz Kids & Family, Supercanal, TBS On Demand, TNT On Demand, The Arabic Channel, RTVi, RAI, NGTV, TV Japan, Universal HD, and USA Network.

From the TWC Channel Changes page.....this doesn't look good!!

Sorry if this has been posted already.

From the TWC Channel Changes page.....this doesn't look good!!

Sorry if this has been posted already.
Meh, no cause for concern. They always put those messages up as current carriage agreements get close to renewal time.

From the TWC Channel Changes page.....this doesn't look good!!

Sorry if this has been posted already.

There is always a long list.

Very little happens (ever since the WABC disaster from a few years back)

There is always a long list.

Very little happens (ever since the WABC disaster from a few years back)
Never actually looked at that before. Thanks for the information!!!

i just sadly had to switch to the 8300hdc, has anyone noticed that it says a lot of programs are new when they have already been aired 4 times? wondering if it is just my crappy new box

Anyone else having problems with their 8300HD box rebooting every 20 min or so this evening?

all fine on my 8300hd, but the hdc that i have sucks

Anyone else having problems with their 8300HD box rebooting every 20 min or so this evening?No.

Are you sure you don’t have an electrical situation going on in your home or more specifically with the outlet?

My father-in-law has the 8300HDC box. I still have my 8300 HD :)

Anyhow, he's been having numerous problems with the box not recording, no playback, slow guide load, etc.

This is the 3rd HDC box he's tried.

So I decided to call TWC and do some complaining. The rep told me that 90% of his calls are 8300HDC related. He told me that they will be releasing a software update on 10/29.

Sorry if this has already been posted but I didn't see it.

Anyone else having problems with their 8300HD box rebooting every 20 min or so this evening?
I had the same problem, luckily for me I didn't order the UFC PPV and insted watched a web feed on my hd tv. 450kbs stream was nice :)

But yeah I was having box problems all night long, rebooting, grey screen etc. I ended up leaving my box turned off and unplugged from like 1 am until 8 am and now its fine again today.

I had the same problems a week ago too.

No.

Are you sure you don’t have an electrical situation going on in your home or more specifically with the outlet?

I don't think that was the problem, since everything else in my apt seemed to be fine. Anyway, like chopsueychris, the problem cleared itself up and seems fine today. Oh well.

He told me that they will be releasing a software update on 10/29.

My version of ODN is 2.4.5.4

I think other locations have version 2.4.6.1

I hope a update is really coming.

So I decided to call TWC and do some complaining. The rep told me that 90% of his calls are 8300HDC related. He told me that they will be releasing a software update on 10/29.

Sorry if this has already been posted but I didn't see it.

Is there any way to find our what this upcoming release will include?
I would like to know what issues will be fixed, or what new "features" will be added.

Is there any way to find our what this upcoming release will include?
I would like to know what issues will be fixed, or what new "features" will be added.

It's most unlikely that SA will provide release notes to the general public, if at all. Especially for a firmware update intended to fix problems.

A_C

It's most unlikely that SA will provide release notes to the general public, if at all. Especially for a firmware update intended to fix problems.

A_C

SA has nothing to do with Navigator. This is developed by TWC in-house.

Did I miss something? What is the difference between the 8300HD and the 8300HDC boxes? I am not familiar with the latter ones.

Did I miss something? What is the difference between the 8300HD and the 8300HDC boxes? I am not familiar with the latter ones.
They are functionally identical, but the HDC uses an FCC-mandated CableCARD to authorize and decrypt channels. The CableCARD is screwed into a slot in the rear of the unit. Customers are not allowed to remove or otherwise tamper with the CableCARD inserted into these units.

SA has nothing to do with Navigator. This is developed by TWC in-house.

OK, but would they be any more amenable to providing release notes? Not that I'd have much confidence in what they'd say anyway...

A_C

They are functionally identical, but the HDC uses an FCC-mandated CableCARD to authorize and decrypt channels. The CableCARD is screwed into a slot in the rear of the unit. Customers are not allowed to remove or otherwise tamper with the CableCARD inserted into these units.

Well, except to us one big difference is that currently the 8300HDC is coming equipped with Time Warner's new Navigator software which is reported to be very buggy, slow, and unreliable.

The older 8300HDs have Pioneer's Passport software on them, which despite its known issues, the version that is deployed here in NYC is pretty stable and generally works well.

We are expecting that one day (hopefully once they've got their public "beta testing" done, as it seems to be, and the software is relatively less buggy) all of our 8300HD boxes will be flashed with the new Navigator software, and then all hell will break loose. ;)

Hopefully that day will be later rather than sooner.

Well, except to us one big difference is that currently the 8300HDC is coming equipped with Time Warner's new Navigator software which is reported to be very buggy, slow, and unreliable.

The older 8300HDs have Pioneer's Passport software on them, which despite its known issues, the version that is deployed here in NYC is pretty stable and generally works well.

We are expecting that one day (hopefully once they've got their public "beta testing" done, as it seems to be, and the software is relatively less buggy) all of our 8300HD boxes will be flashed with the new Navigator software, and then all hell will break loose. ;)

Hopefully that day will be later rather than sooner.

Never would be better! Seriously, we have one version of Nagivator being deployed on the larger memory footprint HDC boxes, care to take a guess on a separate version of it running on the RAM limited HD boxes? If it's terrible on HDC boxes as has been constantly reported, imagine some other version running on HDs?

I might be able to cut them about 1/2 inch of slack IF they told us what they will do and WHEN. But those bastards will do it when they please with no notice at all.

They are functionally identical, but the HDC uses an FCC-mandated CableCARD to authorize and decrypt channels. The CableCARD is screwed into a slot in the rear of the unit. Customers are not allowed to remove or otherwise tamper with the CableCARD inserted into these units.

The HDCs have more RAM than the HDs. So there has to be a different version of Nagivator to run on HD boxes.

I was home ill yesterday and noticed a few strange things on my TV connected to a 8300HD that runs Passport Aptiva. 1) I now have three fast forward speeds for the DVR, I had two. 2) During a program on the Discovery channel yesterday, a box appeared on the bottom of the screen informing me to press A on my remote to view On Demand content related to the show I was watching then press LAST to return to the show. I never have seen this display before. 3) The HD channels appeared "snowy" in darker areas of the picture yesterday and I noticed HD channel pixel dropouts. Pixel dropout were basically nonexistent except for yesterday when I seen about 20.

Anyone know if they pushed an 8300 upgrade yesterday?

More more thing I forgot, I had my first issue with the 8300HD since I installed it in March yesterday, it refused to play one recorded show.

I was home ill yesterday and noticed a few strange things on my TV connected to a 8300HD that runs Passport Aptiva. 1) I now have three fast forward speeds for the DVR, I had two. 2) During a program on the Discovery channel yesterday, a box appeared on the bottom of the screen informing me to press A on my remote to view On Demand content related to the show I was watching then press LAST to return to the show. I never have seen this display before. 3) The HD channels appeared "snowy" in darker areas of the picture yesterday and I noticed HD channel pixel dropouts. Pixel dropout were basically nonexistent except for yesterday when I seen about 20.

Anyone know if they pushed an 8300 upgrade yesterday?

What version softare do you have? I think if you tune to Ch 996 it displays it on your screen.

TWC finally fixed my problem whereby A&E HD, FSNY HD, HGTV HD and Food Network HD were blocked as "Subscription channels" even though we had the required package to receive them.

And only a week after I complained to DOITT, too.:rolleyes:

And only a week after I complained to DOITTIt's good too hear that a complaint (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11628491#post11628491) worked.:rolleyes:

TWC finally fixed my problem whereby A&E HD, FSNY HD, HGTV HD and Food Network HD were blocked as "Subscription channels" even though we had the required package to receive them.

And only a week after I complained to DOITT, too.:rolleyes:

Sorry... I dont want to hear another word from another SI person about their extra HD channels.... :mad:

It's good too hear that a complaint (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11628491#post11628491) worked.:rolleyes:
Thanks for that link. I put it off for a while, but when Fox Business came on and it was "Subscription Service", that was about the last straw. Not that I care all that much about Fox Business, but still...

Two days after I filed the complaint, a "senior supervisor" from TWC contacted me, gave me her direct number, promised to deal with the issue and was all sweetness and light. She followed up repeatedly and even apologized for taking two days off at the weekend. Hmph.

I appreciate her efforts, and all's well that ends well, but it sucks that I had to complain to the city to get TWC to take the problem seriously.

Not that I care all that much about Fox Business.... Oh no... you said FOX… (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crL2jpLcCXk) :eek: :D

Two days after I filed the complaint, a "senior supervisor" from TWC contacted me, gave me her direct number, promised to deal with the issue and was all sweetness and light.
Well I’m glad it worked, as it should.:cool:
Sorry... I dont want to hear another word from another SI person about their extra HD channels....
I wish all five Boroughs were on the same page regarding HD line up.

TWC finally fixed my problem whereby A&E HD, FSNY HD, HGTV HD and Food Network HD were blocked as "Subscription channels" even though we had the required package to receive them.

well how are the channels? how do they look?

And only a week after I complained to DOITT, too.:rolleyes:

You should send another complaint about their lack of HD programming. U guys in S.I. have all the space in the world. I'm sure going to do it.

Ask about:

Golf/Versus-HD
CNN-HD
History Channel-HD
Lifetime Movie Network-HD
Starz Comedy-HD --- (will be added only in TWC of San Antonio)
Starz Edge-HD --- (will be added only in TWC of San Antonio)
Starz Kids & Family-HD --- (will be added only in TWC of San Antonio)
National Geographic-HD --- (has been added only in TWC of Hawaii)
Fox Business Network-HD --- (will be added only in TWC of North Carolina)
NHL Network-HD --- (Has the rights to, Channel Available Now)

well how are the channels? how do they look?

A&E HD is all stretch-O-vision. Not even their self-produced stuff like Dog is in HD. Right now, I'm wondering WTF the point of this channel is.
FSNY HD hasn't shown any HD content that I've seen yet, but at least they don't stretch stuff.
HGTV HD and Food Network HD both have lots and lots of HD content, and they are both given room to breath with lots of bandwidth. I would rate them on the level of HD Theater in terms of picture quality, but they seem to have even more bandwidth. I haven't seen much macroblocking or breakups, even on scenes that would give HD Theater fits.

So preliminary grades:
A&E HD - D (maybe if they actually show some true HD content, the grade might go up, and they lose points for stretch-O-vision)
FSNY HD - C (until I see a Hockey game or something)
Food HD - A- (food in HD just looks that much more delicious)
HGTV HD - B+

FSNY HD - C (until I see a Hockey game or something)

next game is thursday night, but that game is on msg-hd as well, record saturday evenings game.

So I was gonna wait until tomorrow morning for 'official' confirmation....

But it seems DirecTV will have MSG-HD and FSNY-HD as part of their next HD roll out tomorrow morning....

Let's hope this gets TWC NYC off their asses.... fast....

He told me that they will be releasing a software update on 10/29.

Sorry if this has already been posted but I didn't see it.

I hope they fixe the damn firewire issue already. :mad:

So I was gonna wait until tomorrow morning for 'official' confirmation....

But it seems DirecTV will have MSG-HD and FSNY-HD as part of their next HD roll out tomorrow morning....

Let's hope this gets TWC NYC off their asses.... fast....


False Alarm (for now)

So I was gonna wait until tomorrow morning for 'official' confirmation....

But it seems DirecTV will have MSG-HD and FSNY-HD as part of their next HD roll out tomorrow morning....

Let's hope this gets TWC NYC off their asses.... fast....

Ha, ha, ha! They are too busy counting their million dollar bonuses... but I suspect they MAY get off their asses when the city end runs DOITT to complete the franchise agreement with Verizon AND they start laying the fiber all around the city. Unfortunately, that may be a few years away.

The bottom line is they have NO reason to do anything. For most residents outside SI they have such a stranglehold with absolutely NO options (well, I'm also thinking large areas in Brooklyn/Bronx and Queens may have little issues seeing the Direct bird, so it may be more a landlord issue...).

Just want to let my homies know... Verizon apparently will offer an IP connectivity plan that costs 65 bucks and gives 20 Mb/s down and 20Mb/s up (NY Metro area, per NY Times). Boy, I can NOT wait.

Just want to let my homies know... Verizon apparently will offer an IP connectivity plan that costs 65 bucks and gives 20 Mb/s down and 20Mb/s up (NY Metro area, per NY Times). Boy, I can NOT wait.

how is this possible? 20mb up & DOWN?
way GREAT if true!

its this FIOS?

any HD programming with that?
link to article?

thanks

paul
forest hills

how is this possible? 20mb up & DOWN?
way GREAT if true!

its this FIOS?

any HD programming with that?
link to article?

thanks

paul
forest hills

Yes, it has been confirmed from posters in another forum I read that this service from Verizon is available in Manhattan. I cannot say if the 20/20 is available to other FIOS customers outside of Manhattan. You have to contact Verizon to find out, but be advised that some posters stated that some of the reps at Verizon do not even know of the new 20/20 FIOS plan.

What version softare do you have? I think if you tune to Ch 996 it displays it on your screen.

Passport echo 2.6.002
Powertv 6.14.74.1sp*

Since I didn't know the version , I am not sure if I was running a earlier release prior to Monday. Thanks for the Ch 996 tip.

For those wanting info about Verizon's 20/20 FIOS

http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2007/verizon-redefines-fast-with.html

I am currently a Digital Time Warner subscriber on the UWS of Manhattan. I was considering purchasing a HDHomeRun and setting up an iMac in the bedroom. I can't (don't want) to run cable throughout my apartment and was thinking of sending the video via my DLINK Xtreme N Gigabit wireless router.

Do anyone know how many/which clear QAM channels does TWC provides? I also have the option of RCN -- do they have more clear QAM channels than TWC?

Does anyone think this set-up i'll work to view TV in the bedroom w/o running cable?

Thanks!

The 20/20 plan was available since last week for 64.99 in NYC. I have had Fios in NYC for the past 5 months and its light years ahead of anything TWC will have in the coming years. I just can't wait until this TV deal for Verizon is completed with the city.

For those wanting info about Verizon's 20/20 FIOS

Verizon Redefines 'Fast' With Groundbreaking FiOS Internet Service Featuring 20 Mbps Download and Upload Speeds (http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2007/verizon-redefines-fast-with.html)That’s great news but it’s only available to those that have fiber to their premises.

I called Verizon (718-890-1550 for my area) and inquired about dumping TWC/Roadrunner/Phone and getting their 20/20 along with their land line service but it’s not available in my area. They transferred me to a pre order department and set me up with a priority installation as soon as it’s available along with email updates. Everyone should do this.

I don’t know if you folks have seen their commercial campaign currently airing. They make Fios seem like Shangri-La. It’s too perfect. :o

I’m really itching right now to do something. DirecTV is the easy, obvious, excellent alternative available to me right now but I believe I would have to commit to a two year deal. That commitment along with paying an additional provider for internet and phone service makes me want to wait a little longer to see if FIOS materializes.

By the way, the scary thing about Fios is their CSRs make TWs sound like rocket scientists. They told me to go on this web site and put my appropriate information in to expedite the Fios transition. It turns out, it’s no longer working. Check it out anyway. You can still sign up for alerts. New Yorkers for TV Choice (http://www.nytvchoice.com/)

I have had Fios in NYC for the past 5 months .What part of the city are you in?

I don’t know if you folks have seen their commercial campaign currently airing. They make Fios seem like Shangri-La. It’s too perfect. :o

I think the TWC commercial against Verizon FIOS (while full of BS itself with half truths) is pretty funny with the guy eating fiber cereal answering the door to the Verizon tech trying to sell it. :)

I ordered the 20/20 FiOS service yesterday after reading the press release. 24 hour turnaround, so it should be activated today. I can't wait.

I think the TWC commercial against Verizon FIOS (while full of BS itself with half truths) is pretty funny with the guy eating fiber cereal answering the door to the Verizon tech trying to sell it. :):DYeah, that commercial is funny but have you seen the FIOS spot I’m talking about? It has a nice CGI Discover HD Theatre look to it. They boast about all of the cool FIOS features. The one that always catches my attention is the multi room DVR feature.

:DYeah, that commercial is funny but have you seen the FIOS spot I’m talking about? It has a nice CGI Discover HD Theatre look to it. They boast about all of the cool FIOS features. The one that always catches my attention is the multi room DVR feature.

Have not seen that one, but I will for sure be on the lookout for it. I will look on the internet later on when I get home from work. Hopefully I can find the commericial on Google and get back to you.

Guys, I have twc and live in flushing we just had new 42PZ77u panasonic hd 1080p installed hooked up to the scientific atlanta 4250HDC box it has a HDMI outlet on the back of the box and the tv has 2 HDMI inputs on the back. The installers attached a HDMI to HDMI cable to the tv and the box. The 4250HDC box flashed a do not accept signal. The installers said they are having trouble with all 4250HDC boxes and told us to use component cables. Before i call TWC i was hopeing to get some feed back from you guys thanks.

Guys, I have twc and live in flushing we just had new 42PZ77u panasonic hd 1080p installed hooked up to the scientific atlanta 4250HDC box it has a HDMI outlet on the back of the box and the tv has 2 HDMI inputs on the back. The installers attached a HDMI to HDMI cable to the tv and the box. The 4250HDC box flashed a do not accept signal. The installers said they are having trouble with all 4250HDC boxes and told us to use component cables. Before i call TWC i was hopeing to get some feed back from you guys thanks.
Whenever I get that message, turning the TV off and back on fixes it. And I avoid getting the message in the first place by making sure to turn on the cable box before turning on the TV.

Thanks unndunn for your help.

Does anyone in New York City get cnn hd? Cuz i sure dont and today i was in the columbus circle mall in manhattan and i walked by the time warner building and they had CNN HD showing on their tvs. Now thats some messed up stuff cuz i live in manhattan and i dont get that channel. What a tease..

Irony: Time Warner using DirecTV to receive CNN HD because their cable arm doesn't supply it in their HQ city.

It's unlikely that is actually what is happening (they are probably getting it from a C-Band satellite,) but still...

I am considering switching from TWC to DirectTv. Can someone please summarize the pluses and minuses to this move? Is the picture of one inferior to the other? The DirectTV commercials about 100 HD channels are starting to get to me. I own a house with good sight lines from the roof. I guess I would keep TWC for internet.

Thanks,
Jason
Brooklyn

Those that use DirecTV here at work all are satisfied for the most part with the service and pretty much concur that weather related problems are pretty much the biggest issue.

Overall, they seem satified and claim to save money over using cable.

Does anyone in New York City get cnn hd? Cuz i sure dont and today i was in the columbus circle mall in manhattan and i walked by the time warner building and they had CNN HD showing on their tvs. Now thats some messed up stuff cuz i live in manhattan and i dont get that channel. What a tease..

CNN is owned by Time Warner. They've clearly got their own sources for a feed.....

CNN is owned by Time Warner. They've clearly got their own sources for a feed.....

So since they control the news they can do as they please?

So since they control the news they can do as they please?

Huh?

Time Warner can show whatever they want on the TV screens in a building called the "Time Warner Center", and clearly they want to promote CNN-HD, so they can use their own direct satellite feed to show it in their own building.

That’s great news but it’s only available to those that have fiber to their premises.

I called Verizon (718-890-1550 for my area) and inquired about dumping TWC/Roadrunner/Phone and getting their 20/20 along with their land line service but it’s not available in my area. They transferred me to a pre order department and set me up with a priority installation as soon as it’s available along with email updates. Everyone should do this.

I don’t know if you folks have seen their commercial campaign currently airing. They make Fios seem like Shangri-La. It’s too perfect. :o

I’m really itching right now to do something. DirecTV is the easy, obvious, excellent alternative available to me right now but I believe I would have to commit to a two year deal. That commitment along with paying an additional provider for internet and phone service makes me want to wait a little longer to see if FIOS materializes.

By the way, the scary thing about Fios is their CSRs make TWs sound like rocket scientists. They told me to go on this web site and put my appropriate information in to expedite the Fios transition. It turns out, it’s no longer working. Check it out anyway. You can still sign up for alerts. New Yorkers for TV Choice (http://www.nytvchoice.com/)

First, terminology. Many seem to equate the name "FIOS" with TV service. Many have said they "have" FIOS... but at least in the city, that means IP and phone but NOT TV. So all please be careful about what you say.

Larry, Direct wants a 2 year commitment? I'm in a funny position of not knowing for sure a dish will see "enough" of the incoming signal. Assuming the info I got on location is really correct (all I know is that it's in the right ballpark) it's the elevation that's a bitch. I ONLY have a very small, narrow window between two tall buildings. Plus have no idea if the co-op board will fight me in any way, nor can I get ANY idea of pricing from their god awful website (TWC is also awful, but one CAN figure out what it will cost you fairly easily).

As we all know, without a "franchise agreement" they can NOT offer TV services. It HAS been publicly reported that the city apparently thinks there is an issue with the DOITT approving the deal, so they have negotiated (are negotiating?) a secret, private agreement. What I hear (I work for a newspaper in the city) is that TWC's lobbyists are fighting approval big time, and that is WHY the city is turning to "private negotiations."

That aside, we still have the issue of running the fiber. Along with the issue of fiber INTO the apartment. Far as I know, Verizon has NOT be specific at all about what their intentions are. We have "heard" that some landlords have refused to allow them to run fiber through hallways, but my co-op had an issue with TWC about how they wanted to wire (we had spent a small fortune to run multiple telephone and co-ax wiring from a secure basement location in the basement TO every apartment with all wiring buried) but we "lost" and had to let them do what they wanted because their franchise agreement apparently said they would deploy wiring any way they wanted.

So the question is what if Verizon brings fiber into the building, then goes copper to the apartments. TWC does the exact same thing except the fiber to cooper happens about 150 feet away from the building.

So since they control the news they can do as they please?

They can do what they please because for many of us, they are the ONLY choice. That's exactly why they shower SI with 6 additional channels AND have 10% discounts for them... because Verizon FIOS (not the TV side) exists there (is their coverage 100% on SI or only parts?). As soon as the secret negotiations with the city are complete, SIers can immediately start dropping them like flies.

Most of the rest of us face years before we get wired, so they can keep us with the WORST (and most expensive) package of services (i.e. lineup of HD channels) because WE HAVE NO OPTION.

Notice how one has to pick some 600,000 and under population "cities" to find a poorer lineup?

Irony: Time Warner using DirecTV to receive CNN HD because their cable arm doesn't supply it in their HQ city.

It's unlikely that is actually what is happening (they are probably getting it from a C-Band satellite,) but still...


dont be surprised if cnn hd is the next hd channel to be launched ;-)

cnn is hq in atlanta. there are 2 c-band dishes on the south tower of tw center. i believe there are satellite and terristrial links between cnn nyc-dc-atlanta

I am considering switching from TWC to DirectTv. Can someone please summarize the pluses and minuses to this move? Is the picture of one inferior to the other? The DirectTV commercials about 100 HD channels are starting to get to me. I own a house with good sight lines from the roof. I guess I would keep TWC for internet.

Thanks,
Jason
Brooklyn

minuses-no new york 1 or local access channels, no VOD, rain fade, paying for service calls. they have 70 channels but most can only receive about 40-50 now. they count regional sports networks (most that u can't get) and hd-ppv as hd channels

Direct wants a 2 year commitment?Yes, they have a two year commitment. It’s really not so bad; they charge $20 per month for all unfulfilled time.
Lucky for TW, I haven’t been motivated enough to sit down and crunch the numbers yet—internet service, phone service, HD and DVR service.

no VOD:confused: When TW gives us HDVOD then you can talk. :rolleyes:

minuses-no new york 1 or local access channels, no VOD, rain fade, paying for service calls. they have 70 channels but most can only receive about 40-50 now. they count regional sports networks (most that u can't get) and hd-ppv as hd channels I think you should do a little more research before disparaging DirecTV. You can look at this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=918830) and read some of the accolades. The only thing that’s preventing me (and I’m sure many others) from jumping to a dish is as I mentioned above- crunching the numbers etc.

When this FIOS fiasco is resolved it will be an injection of pure kryptonite in TW’s veins.

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dont be surprised if cnn hd is the next hd channel to be launched ;-)

That's the 2nd time you've alluded to this. Any estimate as to when??? :confused:

A_C

That's the 2nd time you've alluded to this. Any estimate as to when??? :confused:

A_C
Maybe this could hold you over...:phttp://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/features/magstories/051128/acooper.jpg

Maybe this could hold you over...:phttp://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/features/magstories/051128/acooper.jpg

I'm way ahead of you Larry... :)

A_C

minuses-no new york 1 or local access channels, no VOD, rain fade, paying for service calls. they have 70 channels but most can only receive about 40-50 now. they count regional sports networks (most that u can't get) and hd-ppv as hd channels

we don't have HDPPV :(

we don't have HDPPV :(
Yes we do. :rolleyes: The "insider" is referring to channel 350 (?) The one with all of that great programming… :rolleyes:I think there’s been like 3 different shows on it. Geeze, TW has massive leverage with that channel.

we don't have HDPPV :(

Channel 350.

It's really PPV Special Events HD (Boxing, UFC)

First, terminology. Many seem to equate the name "FIOS" with TV service. Many have said they "have" FIOS... but at least in the city, that means IP and phone but NOT TV. So all please be careful about what you say.

Larry, Direct wants a 2 year commitment? I'm in a funny position of not knowing for sure a dish will see "enough" of the incoming signal. Assuming the info I got on location is really correct (all I know is that it's in the right ballpark) it's the elevation that's a bitch. I ONLY have a very small, narrow window between two tall buildings. Plus have no idea if the co-op board will fight me in any way, nor can I get ANY idea of pricing from their god awful website (TWC is also awful, but one CAN figure out what it will cost you fairly easily).

As we all know, without a "franchise agreement" they can NOT offer TV services. It HAS been publicly reported that the city apparently thinks there is an issue with the DOITT approving the deal, so they have negotiated (are negotiating?) a secret, private agreement. What I hear (I work for a newspaper in the city) is that TWC's lobbyists are fighting approval big time, and that is WHY the city is turning to "private negotiations."

That aside, we still have the issue of running the fiber. Along with the issue of fiber INTO the apartment. Far as I know, Verizon has NOT be specific at all about what their intentions are. We have "heard" that some landlords have refused to allow them to run fiber through hallways, but my co-op had an issue with TWC about how they wanted to wire (we had spent a small fortune to run multiple telephone and co-ax wiring from a secure basement location in the basement TO every apartment with all wiring buried) but we "lost" and had to let them do what they wanted because their franchise agreement apparently said they would deploy wiring any way they wanted.

So the question is what if Verizon brings fiber into the building, then goes copper to the apartments. TWC does the exact same thing except the fiber to cooper happens about 150 feet away from the building.


I have fios in Manhattan and Verizon ran the fiber from the basement to each floor in the building which would be 35 floors. Verizon ran the fiber to each apartment on the floor and a ONT was installed in the apartment. Copper is something that verizon does not want to depoy in MDU anymore because of the rising cost the the metal and the future limitations that it will have on bandwith and speed for their fios customers once they switch over to an IPTV network. Fiber is their main choice when they set up an MDU for fios. Just to be clear Fios is worth the wait.

In my humble opinion Fios HDTV wont be any better than what TWC cable HDTV gives you now.

I have found the internet to be unbearably slow lately, so i decided to check the speed on speakeasy. I was surprised at the results, compared to what you guys seem to be getting .... from NY server: 1293 kbps down/ 153kbps up!! you guys report download speeds 5-6k higher!

I have some old d*best package which includes roadrunner service - I am now wondering if that package only includes the "basic" roadrunner service (1.5 Mbps/256 kbps) as opposed to the standard service, like 10MBps. Also I am paying $132.95 for this package, which appears to be a ripoff no matter how I slice it (I get 4 premium channels - going to reduce that - but even that should only be 129.90 according to the website)

Been on hold with customer service for about half an hour, but I intend to raise hell if my suspicions are true...

just wanted to warn people of this potential scam

I have found the internet to be unbearably slow lately, so i decided to check the speed on speakeasy. I was surprised at the results, compared to what you guys seem to be getting .... from NY server: 1293 kbps down/ 153kbps up!! you guys report download speeds 5-6k higher!

I have some old d*best package which includes roadrunner service - I am now wondering if that package only includes the "basic" roadrunner service (1.5 Mbps/256 kbps) as opposed to the standard service, like 10MBps. Also I am paying $132.95 for this package, which appears to be a ripoff no matter how I slice it (I get 4 premium channels - going to reduce that - but even that should only be 129.90 according to the website)

Been on hold with customer service for about half an hour, but I intend to raise hell if my suspicions are true...

just wanted to warn people of this potential scam

I've got the same dbest package - i've got the 'normal' 10Mbps download speed (and the package is still a deal at the current price)

(try rebooting your cable modem)


Edit - just to add - remember, this is cable internet service - 10Mbps is the 'max' - but if you happen to be hooked to a busy area - it won't be that fast

Got the 8300HDC to replace my dead 8300HD. The first boot took about 7 minutes, it recognized the external hard drive and I recorded 3 shows. Last night I have to reboot. It took about 5 minutes but no mentioning of the hard drive. I checked the recorded shows and it said none - HORROR. I tried to get to diagnostics to see whether the hard drive was there. The usual select+exit doesn't work, search the thread and came up empty, anyone knows how? Some of the scheduled recordings were also cancelled.

I begin to suspect the operating software is actually written by terrorists to accelerate our mental breakdown.

Hope this helps someone, Just got a email back from TWC/NYC regarding my complaint about the scientificatlanta 4250HDC box rejecting HDMI cable. (In reference to your inquiry, while some of the HD converters have active HDMI ports it is not a supported connection. We are aware of the HDMI issue regarding your pictular converter and expect the problem to be corrected at the end of the month with an upgrade of the converters operating system. This upgrade will be done from our office and will not require you to swap your converter or set up a service call). This sounds very good and could turn out to be very helpful to anyone having this problem.

Yes we do. :rolleyes: The "insider" is referring to channel 350 (?) The one with all of that great programming… :rolleyes:I think there’s been like 3 different shows on it. Geeze, TW has massive leverage with that channel.

Wasn't that 3 single events all year long? Something like one boxing and 2 fake wrestling events, all for about 60 bucks each?

I have fios in Manhattan and Verizon ran the fiber from the basement to each floor in the building which would be 35 floors. Verizon ran the fiber to each apartment on the floor and a ONT was installed in the apartment. Copper is something that verizon does not want to depoy in MDU anymore because of the rising cost the the metal and the future limitations that it will have on bandwith and speed for their fios customers once they switch over to an IPTV network. Fiber is their main choice when they set up an MDU for fios. Just to be clear Fios is worth the wait.

Ah, might you share what neighborhood the building is in? I remember someone showing pictures of the fiber runs, some building in the east 70s. BUT one of the biggest mucky-mucks at Verizon lived there, so it doesn't count for much, I'd opine!

While I certainly WANT to have fiber into my place, the downside is that I suspect getting it into all neighborhoods will be an issue. During TWC's fiber rollout, they probably correctly rolled out the services it afforded as each section got wired. Which meant that those in alphabet city got such services almost 2 years before I did (I live up near Columbia U). If Verizon follows a similar path, given that they have FAR more work to roll everything into the apartment, it could be far longer than that. If they started at Columbia and went south and north, better for me, but not so hot for guys like Scott B. Start in midtown and go north and south simultaneously and I think THAT would be fairest for all.

(I work for a newspaper in the city)You should run to your “Perry White’s” office and jump up and down on his/her desk and demand an exposé on TW. ;)

Well the first installs in Manhattan for Fios are located near wall street and the upper east side. Verizon is going for the wealthy areas first due to the high cost of the installations which range from $800-1200 for each apartment install. the contractors that Verizon used to wire the whole building which is 35 floors took almost 5 months to complete the fiber runs. When I last spoke to the installers they said that they were installing fiber in many of the buildings in the upper east side because they want all the people back that switched from their DSL service to cable

At the end of the month all cable boxes will have an upgrade of the converters operating system or just customers who have navigator

When I last spoke to the installers they said that they were installing fiber in many of the buildings in the upper east side because they want all the people back that switched from their DSL service to cable

Them sounds like fighting words to me... If that's going to Verizon's mantra then I can't hardly wait for FIOS to be up and running in NYC because the impending competition wars between them will get nasty and that's always a good thing for the customer.

At the end of the month TWC/NYC will upgrade the converters operating system on the 4250HDC scientificatlanta cable box from the office to correct the problem of the box rejecting the HDMI cable as far as navigator i dont know .

Got the 8300HDC to replace my dead 8300HD. The first boot took about 7 minutes, it recognized the external hard drive and I recorded 3 shows. Last night I have to reboot. It took about 5 minutes but no mentioning of the hard drive. I checked the recorded shows and it said none - HORROR. I tried to get to diagnostics to see whether the hard drive was there. The usual select+exit doesn't work, search the thread and came up empty, anyone knows how? Some of the scheduled recordings were also cancelled.

I begin to suspect the operating software is actually written by terrorists to accelerate our mental breakdown.

Can you see the files inside that eSATA drive if you plug it to a PC? And were you able to transfer them?

Just a heads up...

I'm going to have a 'super full' QAM listing coming up at some point soon.... including ALL ANALOG channels..... can you believe there are still about 80 of them?

Just a heads up...

I'm going to have a 'super full' QAM listing coming up at some point soon.... including ALL ANALOG channels..... can you believe there are still about 80 of them?

n & s manhattan have 74 analog
si & western queens (acq) have < 30
eastern queens/western bklyn (bq) & SE queens (quics) ~77

Them sounds like fighting words to me... If that's going to Verizon's mantra then I can't hardly wait for FIOS to be up and running in NYC because the impending competition wars between them will get nasty and that's always a good thing for the customer.

Seems petty clear to me that TWC will fight back...just like they are doing for the past 4 months in SI. My guess would be when they start acting like there's competition, Verizon is going to be very close. Of course, that COULD take a few more years! In the meantime, we get zip, nada, zilch. THAT is what will make me switch, almost no matter if there were or weren't any differences.

At the end of the month all cable boxes will have an upgrade of the converters operating system or just customers who have navigator

So will we lose our saved shows? I am back logged with a bunch of shows on my external hard drive. Is there a firm date? This is really going to blow.
Jason

n & s manhattan have 74 analog
si & western queens (acq) have < 30
eastern queens/western bklyn (bq) & SE queens (quics) ~77

There are definitely more than 74 in Manhattan - since the 4 Premiums that got 'turned off' last month are still using the analog signal (for the 'message' that they are no longer available......)


EDIT - Sorry - 3 of the 4 are left

OK, here is version 2 (Manhattan)

Yellow = HD
Red = active, but empty signal
green = signal w/ picture - not assigned to a channel

We've still have ~80 Analog Channels.

3:30 EDIT - i just replaced the file..... a bit more cleanup

wow, pretty impressive work BERK.

I am looking to upgrade my HD system to using HDMI cables, but I still want to keep my older ReplayTV DVR in the mix--I just can't part with commercial advance, poopli, etc.

I have heard that when using an HDMI cable with TWC's set-top boxes that the other analog outputs are disabled, but I would like to know if I can simultaneously use the HDMI out (to HD TV), and s-video out with RCA audio outs (to DVR). If so, can you please confirm which TWC HD non-DVR set-top box can do this?

If this isn't possible, then does anybody know of a receiver that would "downconvert" HDMI to s-video?

Thanks,
LT

I am looking to upgrade my HD system to using HDMI cables, but I still want to keep my older ReplayTV DVR in the mix--I just can't part with commercial advance, poopli, etc.

I have heard that when using an HDMI cable with TWC's set-top boxes that the other analog outputs are disabled, but I would like to know if I can simultaneously use the HDMI out (to HD TV), and s-video out with RCA audio outs (to DVR). If so, can you please confirm which TWC HD non-DVR set-top box can do this?

If this isn't possible, then does anybody know of a receiver that would "downconvert" HDMI to s-video?

Thanks,
LT

On the TWC DVR’s you can only have one set of High Definition outputs active at any one time. Which is to say; if you use the HDMI port, the Component outputs don’t work and visa versa. That doesn’t apply however, to the Standard Definition outputs, such as Composite and Coax. I run HDMI to the TV and the coax to my computer to grab clips and such.

This morning, I woke up and checked to see if some movies had recorded overnight.

I found that not only had they not recorded, but the DVR had reset to 10/17. It had restored all programs I had deleted prior to 10/17 and deleted all programs, set to manual deletion, after 10/17.

Has anyone ever had a similar issue with the DVR? I have the 8300HD.

I called CS and they first told me that the only way that would only happen if someone manually deleted the programs. Impossible, since I cannot manually add deleted programs. The CS argued with me, but then had me go through two reboots... no success.

Any recourse, or are the programs lost for good?

This morning, I woke up and checked to see if some movies had recorded overnight.

I found that not only had they not recorded, but the DVR had reset to 10/17. It had restored all programs I had deleted prior to 10/17 and deleted all programs, set to manual deletion, after 10/17.
Has anyone ever had a similar issue with the DVR? I have the 8300HD.

Any recourse, or are the programs lost for good?

Yesterday, I had some serious problems with 2 shows I recorded yesterday. Suddenly the screen turned black and I would see random colors on the top of the screen. Either something was flaky with the transmission or my DVR (HDC8300) needa to be replaced.
I had recorded something on the Travel Channel at about 5pm. The last 10 minutes of the recording was unwatchable. Then I recorded Eragon on HBO-HD. I missed about 10 minutes of Eragon while my cable box re-booted. The HDC cable box takes soooo long to boot.

Yesterday, I had some serious problems with 2 shows I recorded yesterday. Suddenly the screen turned black and I would see random colors on the top of the screen. Either something was flaky with the transmission or my DVR (HDC8300) needa to be replaced.
I had recorded something on the Travel Channel at about 5pm. The last 10 minutes of the recording was unwatchable. Then I recorded Eragon on HBO-HD. I missed about 10 minutes of Eragon while my cable box re-booted. The HDC cable box takes soooo long to boot.

I recorded Eragon at 8 pm last evening (8300HD), but the last 10 minutes were missing. The recorded list showed the end time in red which indicates the recording is not complete. My DVR didn't reboot as I was watching Eragon about a half hour behind the broadcast. I think something went wrong at HBO. I rerecorded it early this morning and the recording was complete.

Cynthia

I recorded Eragon at 8 pm last evening (8300HD), but the last 10 minutes were missing.I recorded it Saturday night 8 PM and had no problems.

I’ve encountered your situation a few times. This usually happens when the drive (thinks :rolleyes: ) it’s full.

With all the problems everyone has with the DVR, wouldnt life be much simpler if you didnt have one. I know im gonna get a lot of flack with that comment. I just had to say it.

With all the problems everyone has with the DVR, wouldnt life be much simpler if you didnt have one. I know im gonna get a lot of flack with that comment. I just had to say it.
Of course. Life would also be a lot simpler if we didn't have televisions, computers, internet and phones.

With all the problems everyone has with the DVR, wouldnt life be much simpler if you didnt have one.
:eek:As bad as it is I would never part with mine.

I want one for my radio… I want one my wife—to win “discussions” ;)… I want for real! :cool:

...But I’ll just have to keep my non navigated :rolleyes: clunker and be content.

Since the World Series is over is Fox going to show Prison Break tonight and if so will the Program Guide be updated so I can set my DVR?

Since the World Series is over is Fox going to show Prison Break tonight and if so will the Program Guide be updated so I can set my DVR? No idea what Fox will program tonight instead of baseball. You might want to check their web site. BUT I can say, with most certainty, that the guide will not be updated. I don’t ever recall seeing it updated before. Therefore, if you plan on recording anything do it manually.

I recorded it Saturday night 8 PM and had no problems.

I’ve encountered your situation a few times. This usually happens when the drive (thinks :rolleyes: ) it’s full.

Yes, sometimes when something is deleted, the system does not properly recover all of the space that was cleared. Another problem is that the box may overestimate the space needed for a program (especially a LONG one, such as a sporting event), so it may delete quite a bit more than the space actually necessary for the recording.

This is why I set ALL of the programs that I record to "Keep until I erase" -- that way I don't ever lose programs that I care about.

Rebooting the box regularly at your own convenience will alleviate this issue, as it will then recover the "lost" space.

There was a time when I was rebooting the box nearly daily, but these days once a week seems to be enough. Frequent forced reboots will generally not harm the box, and will provide benefits beyond just recovering lost disc space (clearing the memory, refreshing the processes, etc. -- just like a computer).

Since the World Series is over is Fox going to show Prison Break tonight and if so will the Program Guide be updated so I can set my DVR?

any fox tv tonight - wednesday or thursday will be reruns

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071029/ap_on_hi_te/cable_competition_fcc_2

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071029/ap_on_hi_te/cable_competition_fcc_2
New York City is already open for competition, so I don't think it will affect us. We have RCN and Verizon competing already.

This law addresses contracts where a particular provider has exclusive access to a building, forbidding any other provider to gain access.

From the article: "A few states, including New York, have laws that either restrict or prohibit a landlord or tenant association from entering into an exclusive contract with a cable company."

Read the whole thing here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/business/media/29cable.html

OK, here is version 2 (Manhattan)

Yellow = HD
Red = active, but empty signal
green = signal w/ picture - not assigned to a channel

We've still have ~80 Analog Channels.

3:30 EDIT - i just replaced the file..... a bit more cleanup

impressive!! like i said in previous post there are 73 analog. don't count the former premium channels, hsn, color bars, twc logo. those can be dropped at any time with needed. for those unaware channel 999 is used for surveillance camera in some manhattan buildings. it occupies analog 19 (nman) and analog 79 (sman)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071029/ap_on_hi_te/cable_competition_fcc_2

NY State already has this law in the books.............

Obviously it hasn't been enforced.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/business/media/29cable.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

On the TWC DVR’s you can only have one set of High Definition outputs active at any one time. Which is to say; if you use the HDMI port, the Component outputs don’t work and visa versa. That doesn’t apply however, to the Standard Definition outputs, such as Composite and Coax. I run HDMI to the TV and the coax to my computer to grab clips and such.

Thanks for the reply. I would consider s-video to be a Standard Definition output--can you please confirm which box you have and if the s-video out is actually active?

impressive!! like i said in previous post there are 73 analog. don't count the former premium channels, hsn, color bars, twc logo. those can be dropped at any time with needed. for those unaware channel 999 is used for surveillance camera in some manhattan buildings. it occupies analog 19 (nman) and analog 79 (sman)

- they 'can' be.... but they haven't yet.... (obviously they replaced one of the premiums with Fox business.....) - but yeah, that would mean 73 'current' + 6 more 'active but no longer needed'... That means we should be able to get 12 more HD channels (I don't want 3 HD channels in 1 freq)

- this also means the TBS addition was made without losing any analog....

- ah... I was wondering what the deal was with Analog 19...

- O CRAP.... i just opened the file with an older version of Excel.... I didn't realize the green was being changed to yellow!!!!!!! I have to fix that!

OK, here is version 2 (Manhattan)

Yellow = HD
Red = active, but empty signal
green = signal w/ picture - not assigned to a channel

We've still have ~80 Analog Channels.

3:30 EDIT - i just replaced the file..... a bit more cleanup
Appreciate all the effort. Thanks. Surprised to see so many blocks with 10-12channels per frequency slot. Also starting to notice the really fuzzy character of many SD channels.

Wth all the PQ compliments Verizon's SD lineup usually receives, it would be interesting to compare how they allocate FIOS slots. EDIT: Each QAM slot provides a minimum of 38.8 Mbps usable. Verizon currently allocates 7-9 SD channels per QAM and 2 HD channels per QAM. An extract from this AVS Verizon post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11798212&postcount=6

On a related PQ note, whether it's mostly STB related (SA8300HD here) or rate shaping with requantization (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8011489&&#post8011489) at head ends, still measuring ~1300 lines maximum effective horizontal resolution here from HDNet's current Saturday 6:30 am ET test patterns.

Someone at a former TWC site in Orlando (see sublink (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12018605&postcount=16)) recently measured very close to the full 1920X1080 HDNet resolution. Recall someone on S.Manhattan measured (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8865051#post8865051) ~1335 lines with a 1080p front projector a while back. (An AVS member elsewhere just reported he couldn't get an accurate HDNet reading with a DLP display until he put the set into 1:1 pixel mapping and the right mode.) -- John

whats the deal wit some of thoses channels being cam 64?
doesn't cam 256 allow you cram more channels in?

- O CRAP.... i just opened the file with an older version of Excel.... I didn't realize the green was being changed to yellow!!!!!!! I have to fix that!

yellow/green fixed

From TWCNYC.com:
"Effective November 15, 2007: Fox Sports Net NY HD will be launched on channel 748 and National Geographic HD will be launched on ch. 765. CSPAN2 will be added on channel 148. "

"Effective December 13, 2007: We will launch Too Much For TV on ch. 327 ($14.99/mth) and Disney On Demand on ch. 1049 ($3.99/mth). We will drop AOL Music On Demand (ch.1002) and GAC On Demand (ch.1019) because of elimination by the respective programmers. WAM! will change from channels 87 and 838 to 258 and only be available as part of the Encore Multichannel Premium (a service level change). CSPAN will be added to ch. 147 and CSPAN3 will move from ch. 130 to 149. Universal HD will move from ch. 740 to 734."

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

From TWCNYC.com:
"Effective November 15, 2007: Fox Sports Net NY HD will be launched on channel 748 and National Geographic HD will be launched on ch. 765. CSPAN2 will be added on channel 148. "

"Effective December 13, 2007: We will launch Too Much For TV on ch. 327 ($14.99/mth) and Disney On Demand on ch. 1049 ($3.99/mth). We will drop AOL Music On Demand (ch.1002) and GAC On Demand (ch.1019) because of elimination by the respective programmers. WAM! will change from channels 87 and 838 to 258 and only be available as part of the Encore Multichannel Premium (a service level change). CSPAN will be added to ch. 147 and CSPAN3 will move from ch. 130 to 149. Universal HD will move from ch. 740 to 734."

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

You beat me to it.

:D:D:D:D:D


And for Woodside Queens people:

Effective December 13, 2007 in Woodside, Queens (ACQ) only: We will launch M HD on ch. 720, History HD on ch. 740, A&E HD on ch. 746, Food HD on ch. 750, Lifetime Movies HD on ch. 762, HGTV on ch. 764, and TMC HD on ch. 778, VS HD on ch. 794 and NHL HD on ch. 795.

The thing I wonder is what is happening in Woodside to make it pick up so many HD channels? :confused:

The thing I wonder is what is happening in Woodside to make it pick up so many HD channels? :confused:

1 'big' reason is they have a lot less analog channels clogging up space than we do in Manhattan.....

New York City is already open for competition, so I don't think it will affect us. We have RCN and Verizon competing already.

This law addresses contracts where a particular provider has exclusive access to a building, forbidding any other provider to gain access.

From the article: "A few states, including New York, have laws that either restrict or prohibit a landlord or tenant association from entering into an exclusive contract with a cable company."

Read the whole thing here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/business/media/29cable.html

Not really. RCN has been "frozen" for quite a few years now, so there can be no "new subs" for them. One interesting thing was that THEY very much had a exclusionary policy... as in the ONLY way they would bring wire into your building was if EVERYONE in the building HAD to get phone and/or TV service from them.

They DID change that policy, a few years back they had discussions with my building (get this, they were :"touting" that we would get a T1 into out building, and both DSL and cable trump that speed by large margins). BUT in the middle, they told us to forget their pitch as they would be doing no more cabling as they didn't have the capital to expand beyond where they already were wired.

1 'big' reason is they have a lot less analog channels clogging up space than we do in Manhattan.....
I wonder if Verizon has some FIOS infrastructure in place. But then again there are other parts of Queens—Bay Terrace, parts of Bayside—that have FIOS and they are not getting the additional channels.

Staten Island HD changes:

Effective November 15, 2007: National Geographic HD will be launched on ch. 765.

Effective December 13, 2007: We will launch History HD on ch. 740, Lifetime Movies HD on ch. 762, VS HD on ch. 794 and NHL HD on ch. 795. Universal HD will move from ch. 740 to 734.

Too Much For TV on ch. 327
What's this all about?

I am extremely excited that they're starting to add more HD.

And us city folks finally got 1 of those 6 channels that SI had, + 1 more.

and now SI & Woodside queens will be getting even more, thus widening the gap between M & SI/Q

All of this being done within confines of existing architecture and bandwidth? Anyone getting any inkling of move to switched digital video. Response on this from TWC NYC itself was (surprise) spectacularly unhelpful, simply indicating that there was no SDV in Manhattan "at this time" and no channels had "yet" been moved to SDV.

No fair we are losing our free EncoreWAM. Now we have to get Encore to be able to see it. It was a nice little channel that played a lot of recent movies. Oh well it was nice while it lasted.

So the changes are coming, 2 weeks later than I thought. NGHD and FSNYHD. Not a bad duo, but not as good as I thought would happen. I thought city wide we would have the same selections by the end of the year, but that seems unlikely with Woodside jumping ahead with 9 new channels. I can't believe a neighborhood so close could have so many differences.
At least TWC isn't giving us a months notice about some changes like they are suppose to. So anything can happen in the months ahead.
AOL on Demand is gone, no fair I enjoyed the videos on-demand, but I guess TWC doesn't want the competition to their Music Choice on-demand.

Too Much For TV on ch. 327
What's this all about?
TOO much for TV is basically anopther adult channel. By you can say it is soft core at best. It will have the uncut versions of some of our favorite series. Cheaters, blind date, Jerry, and Girls gone wild, to name a few. Like we don't have enough raunch channels! Is it worth the $13 per month. I don't think so. But TWC will get a few takers and that is m,oney in their pocket.

No fair we are losing our free EncoreWAM. Now we have to get Encore to be able to see it. It was a nice little channel that played a lot of recent movies. I never heard of that channel… oh well.
I can't believe a neighborhood so close could have so many differences. I know...hopefully they will be phased in soon.

another adult channel...you can say it is soft core at best.. Thanks Nutty... Never heard of that one either :o :D

I never heard of that channel… oh well.
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Wam was on channel 87, it shows mostly teen movies like Freaky Friday, Lord of the rings trilogy, Holes and Seabuscuit. to name a few.Tween movies like that uncut and commercial free. Once Encore bought it we were still getting it but for no charge. Not anymore.

Wam was on channel 87, it shows mostly teen movies like Freaky Friday, Lord of the rings trilogy, Holes and Seabuscuit. to name a few.Tween movies like that uncut and commercial free. Once Encore bought it we were still getting it but for no charge. Not anymore.

Who cares about this channel? The movies it shows are NOT in HD.....

I can't bear to watch movies panned and scanned in SD anymore when we have so many good HD movie choices (yes, we could always use more, but between HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, and HDNet Movies, my DVR & external SATA drive are ALWAYS at full capacity).

Who cares about this channel? The movies it shows are NOT in HD.....

I can't bear to watch movies panned and scanned in SD anymore when we have so many good HD movie choices (yes, we could always use more, but between HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, and HDNet Movies, my DVR & external SATA drive are ALWAYS at full capacity).
come on Scott don't be such a bigot, I can't believe you are so Anti-SD. In this day and age of TV harmony. It isn't that bad. At least for me the SD channels have looked pretty good. Give SD a chance!!!

I am as full as you are, but it is forthe new TV season. Come december I catch up on my movies. But I have seen a few movies on Wam that caught my eye and it takes up so little space.

F-sd :)

...don't be such a bigot, I can't believe you are so Anti-SD..:D

From Queens favorite bigot….


http://www.queenstribune.com/guides/2006_Queens100/images/who1.jpg

SD? GEEZE DARE....
BRING ME MORE HD…
AND A BEER HEH

FYI:

http://www.nba.com/knicks/schedule/

According to this, there will be 49 Knicks games available in HD this season.

On MSGHD: All 41 Home games + 5 road games (all in November and December)
On TNT: 1 road game (@ Boston)
On ESPN: 1 road game (no local blackout for ESPN games, even though there is an MSG broadcast)

(all but 1 NBATVHD games will be home games... 1 is in Toronto late in the season... but these games would be blacked out for us anyways)

WHERE IS MY GOLF/VS???? I am happy to see that NHL HD is being added in Staten Island...hopefully it finds its way to Manhattan in the near future.

AndyHDTV, I agree...who watches SDTV these days??? Low tech weirdos I guess ;)

WHERE IS MY GOLF/VS???? I am happy to see that NHL HD is being added in Staten Island...hopefully it finds its way to Manhattan in the near future.

AndyHDTV, I agree...who watches SDTV these days??? Low tech weirdos I guess ;)

Queens and SI are getting it in December....

Meanwhile the Rangers have TWO GAMES IN A ROW next week on Versus........ both games we would've gotten on MSGHD.....

come on Scott don't be such a bigot, I can't believe you are so Anti-SD. In this day and age of TV harmony. It isn't that bad. At least for me the SD channels have looked pretty good. Give SD a chance!!!
No way, man. HD or nothing! :)

Seriously, anything on WAM has been or will eventually be on Starz in HD. I'd rather wait for a movie to come on in HD eventually (whenever that might be) than watch it in SD today.

And the SD channels look pretty good???? Not to me they don't. ;)

I wonder if Verizon has some FIOS infrastructure in place. But then again there are other parts of Queens—Bay Terrace, parts of Bayside—that have FIOS and they are not getting the additional channels.


the "woodside" headend feeds western queens (LIC,ASTORIA,SUNNYSIDE,JACKSON HTS,WOOSIDE,ELMHURST,MASPETH) and has a smalled sub and geographic base than the headend that feeds eastern queens. something like a 3:1 radio. channel adds are based on competition and technical/bandwith capabilties.

whats the deal wit some of thoses channels being cam 64?
doesn't cam 256 allow you cram more channels in?

the "end" of the spectrum typically above 800mhz is interference prone (cell phone) so 256 would not work well there. 64 can tolerate more noise/interference.

Appreciate all the effort. Thanks. Surprised to see so many blocks with 10-12channels per frequency slot. Also starting to notice the really fuzzy character of many SD channels.

Wth all the PQ compliments Verizon's SD lineup usually receives, it would be interesting to compare how they allocate FIOS slots. EDIT: An extract from this AVS Verizon post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11798212&postcount=6

On a related PQ note, whether it's mostly STB related (SA8300HD here) or rate shaping with requantization (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8011489&&#post8011489) at head ends, still measuring ~1300 lines maximum effective horizontal resolution here from HDNet's current Saturday 6:30 am ET test patterns.

Someone at a former TWC site in Orlando (see sublink (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12018605&postcount=16)) recently measured very close to the full 1920X1080 HDNet resolution. Recall someone on S.Manhattan measured (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8865051#post8865051) ~1335 lines with a 1080p front projector a while back. (An AVS member elsewhere just reported he couldn't get an accurate HDNet reading with a DLP display until he put the set into 1:1 pixel mapping and the right mode.) -- John

I am suspicious that rate shaping might not have any effect on the output of any particular frame of content -- I think that it degrades the quality in the differential between frames....this is why motion blur and "blockiness" have been on the increase, at least to my eyes.

You beat me to it.

:D:D:D:D:D


And for Woodside Queens people:

Effective December 13, 2007 in Woodside, Queens (ACQ) only: We will launch M HD on ch. 720, History HD on ch. 740, A&E HD on ch. 746, Food HD on ch. 750, Lifetime Movies HD on ch. 762, HGTV on ch. 764, and TMC HD on ch. 778, VS HD on ch. 794 and NHL HD on ch. 795.

That sounds fantastic. Would you know if we Jackson Heights people (probably 1/2 mile from Woodside) will be getting these goodies too??

the "woodside" headend feeds western queens (LIC,ASTORIA,SUNNYSIDE,JACKSON HTS,WOOSIDE,ELMHURST,MASPETH) and has a smalled sub and geographic base than the headend that feeds eastern queens. something like a 3:1 radio. channel adds are based on competition and technical/bandwith capabilties.

SO, does this mean i'll be getting those December WOODSIDE additions too, here in Jackson Hts??

SO, does this mean i'll be getting those December WOODSIDE additions too, here in Jackson Hts??;) yep

VS HD....

Very nice!!

Hudson Valley

Effective November 15, 2007: Fox Sports Net NY HD will be launched on channel 767 and National Geographic HD will be launched on ch. 751.

Effective November 21, 2007 the price of the digital sports tier will increase from '.95/mth to $2.95/mth.

Effective December 13, 2007: We will launch TV One on ch. 90. We will launch Too Much For TV on ch. 327 ($14.99/mth) and Disney On Demand on ch. 1049 ($3.99/mth). We will drop AOL Music on Demand (ch.1002) and GAC on Demand (ch.1019) because of elimination by the respective programmers. WAM! will change from channels 131 and 838 to 258 and only be available as part of the Encore Multichannel Premium (a service level change). We will launch Oxygen on ch. 83 and Hallmark on ch. 84 for customers with Standard service and a digital converter.

We will change the following channel positions: TV Guide will move from ch. 86 to 72; CSPAN will be added to ch. 147; CSPAN2 will be added to ch. 148; CSPAN3 will move from ch. 130 to 149; G4 will move from ch. 147 to 124; Biography will move from ch. 148 to 129; History Int’l will move from ch. 149 to 130; HBO HD will move from ch. 701 to 791; Showtime HD will move from ch. 703 to 793; YES HD will move from ch. 708 to 769; TNT HD will change from ch. 710 to 714; MSG HD will change from ch. 712 to 768; Cinemax HD will move from ch. 719 to 792; Starz HD will move from ch. 720 to 795; MOJO HD will move from ch. 721 to ch. 796; HD Net Movies will move from ch. 723 to ch. 797; HD Net will move from ch. 724 to 798; ESPN HD will move from ch. 728 to 772; ESPN2 HD will move from ch. 729 to 771; SportsNet NY HD will move from ch. 741 to 770.

In Middletown, Newburgh, Port Jervis, and Rosendale, RSVP will change from ch. 8 to 85 where a digital converter will be required for viewing.

In Port Jervis we will launch Educational Access on ch. 20 and WYOU will change from ch. 20 to 57.

In Tusten we will launch RSVP on ch. 85 for customers with a digital converter. .WYOU will change from ch. 23 to 57 and Public Access will change from ch. 57 to 23.

In Monticello we will change WYOU from ch. 12 to 57.

In Monticello and Liberty we will change RSVP ch. 57 to 85 where a digital converter will be required for viewing.

In New Paltz, Saugerties, Olive, Hunter, and Shandaken will launch RSVP on ch. 85 for customers with a digital converter.

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FYI:

http://www.nba.com/knicks/schedule/

According to this, there will be 49 Knicks games available in HD this season.

On MSGHD: All 41 Home games + 5 road games (all in November and December)
On TNT: 1 road game (@ Boston)
On ESPN: 1 road game (no local blackout for ESPN games, even though there is an MSG broadcast)

(all but 1 NBATVHD games will be home games... 1 is in Toronto late in the season... but these games would be blacked out for us anyways)
All that HD but even then HD doesn't make them play better. The Nets have the more scarier team in this area. Can't wait till they are in Brooklyn.
I am a Knicks fan, that likes both local teams but feels that Coach/ GM has put them in a hole that they won't get out of for years. I love Allan Houston but how do you off him any type of temp contract when he sits and gobbles up the rest of his 90 mil initial contract.That was just wrong!

WHERE IS MY GOLF/VS???? I am happy to see that NHL HD is being added in Staten Island...hopefully it finds its way to Manhattan in the near future.

AndyHDTV, I agree...who watches SDTV these days??? Low tech weirdos I guess ;)
Come on Broadway that is Low, I fight with you for VsHD and now I am a low tech wierdo! No fair it isn't, my fault I live in Richmond Hill, Queens and get the limited channels from TWC in HD that you get. The woodside change doesn't come close to my area. NG, A&E, and History to name a few channels that I still watch in SD because of the lack of options with TWC. Other than that I am full timne in HD land of the 700's

No way, man. HD or nothing! :)

Seriously, anything on WAM has been or will eventually be on Starz in HD. I'd rather wait for a movie to come on in HD eventually (whenever that might be) than watch it in SD today.

And the SD channels look pretty good???? Not to me they don't. ;)
you see that is why I saw it on WAM, no Starrs here. Only HBO and showtime. For the live boxing and comedy shows, and some of their exclusive shows.
I really don't like the way these three companies claim exclusive movie content for their channels, it makes us have to spend a lot more monthly if there are movies that you want to see on all 3 sets.

SO, does this mean i'll be getting those December WOODSIDE additions too, here in Jackson Hts??
You Suck! I am bringing the popcorn to your house! We can watch the All weekend. LOL.

That sucks for my father he is closer to you then I am. He is in Beachhurst. Well there is no reason other then opening a lot of space for this area to get extra HD channels. Most of these areas are not in the FIOPS ready areas.
Does this mean we are being opened by our old company district? Like QUICS csble was running Far rock, Howard beach, Ozone park and Richmond hill plus others. Are they opening up space by regoing like that? I thought all united cable division were suppose to run on the same system, Was that never implemented?

Originally Posted by John Mason
Appreciate all the effort. Thanks. Surprised to see so many blocks with 10-12channels per frequency slot. Also starting to notice the really fuzzy character of many SD channels.

With all the PQ compliments Verizon's SD lineup usually receives, it would be interesting to compare how they allocate FIOS slots. EDIT: An extract from this AVS Verizon post:Each QAM slot provides a minimum of 38.8 Mbps usable. Verizon currently allocates 7-9 SD channels per QAM and 2 HD channels per QAM.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...12&postcount=6

On a related PQ note, whether it's mostly STB related (SA8300HD here) or rate shaping with requantization at head ends, still measuring ~1300 lines maximum effective horizontal resolution here from HDNet's current Saturday 6:30 am ET test patterns.

Someone at a former TWC site in Orlando (see sublink ) recently measured very close to the full 1920X1080 HDNet resolution. Recall someone on S.Manhattan measured ~1335 lines with a 1080p front projector a while back. (An AVS member elsewhere just reported he couldn't get an accurate HDNet reading with a DLP display until he put the set into 1:1 pixel mapping and the right mode.) -- John

I am suspicious that rate shaping might not have any effect on the output of any particular frame of content -- I think that it degrades the quality in the differential between frames....this is why motion blur and "blockiness" have been on the increase, at least to my eyes.
Could be, although here (midtown-east) I haven't been encountering--ever--motion blur and blockiness with my year-2000 1080i CRT RPTV. We may have discussed this PQ issue earlier here. Not into the intricacies of MPEG-2 that much, but the rate shaping description in this 2003 article (http://broadcastengineering.com/aps/acquisition/broadcasting_dtv_digital_cable/index.html), plus engineer spwace's description of requantization here (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8011489&&#post8011489), plus the claim by rate-shaping hardware firms that they can add up to 30% more bandwidth, suggests a reduction of higher resolutions to me. -- John

Who buys premium channels for the movies, anyway?

The only reason I'd even consider getting Starz is for the Anime on Starz Action, or for a few movies in HD which aren't available on HD DVD yet.

HBO HD doesn't even do OAR on its movies.

Who buys premium channels for the movies, anyway?

The only reason I'd even consider getting Starz is for the Anime on Starz Action, or for a few movies in HD which aren't available on HD DVD yet.

HBO HD doesn't even do OAR on its movies.
Hey no response from you, you get the most HD options of all of us!!! LOL! There are many people that buy these channels for movies, f you are a big movie buff it is a lot cheaper to pay for these channels than going to the movies weekly and with some set ups it come look and sound better then a movie theater.

Does anyone know when and if the Science Channel will be available in HD with TWC in NYC. I had to watch Mars Rising in SD last night and it would have been awesome to see this program in HD which is says its available, but not for us. Thank god i have a Pio 5070 which displays decent SD?????

Does anyone know when and if the Science Channel will be available in HD with TWC in NYC. I had to watch Mars Rising in SD last night and it would have been awesome to see this program in HD which is says its available, but not for us. Thank god i have a Pio 5070 which displays decent SD?????

Don't hold your breathe (no TWC location has it yet... no announced plans for it... NYC usually isn't first - especially not Manhattan)

Does anyone know when and if the Science Channel will be available in HD with TWC in NYC. I had to watch Mars Rising in SD last night and it would have been awesome to see this program in HD which is says its available, but not for us. Thank god i have a Pio 5070 which displays decent SD?????
you have a nice waiting line in front of you. All the new channels mentioned earlier would be given to you way before TWC gets Science HD. Even then we don't know how soon those extras will be given to anyone on Manhattan island. At least we know the TWC service in NY & NJ has been going through some changes so it can happen, IMO at the latest some time in 2008.

Effective December 13, 2007 in Woodside, Queens (ACQ) only: We will launch M HD on ch. 720, History HD on ch. 740, A&E HD on ch. 746, Food HD on ch. 750, Lifetime Movies HD on ch. 762, HGTV on ch. 764, and TMC HD on ch. 778, VS HD on ch. 794 and NHL HD on ch. 795.

WHY DOES WOODSIDE GET THESE CHANNELS ONLY?? THATS BULL@%&$#

Don't hold your breathe (no TWC location has it yet... no announced plans for it... NYC usually isn't first - especially not Manhattan)

This is unbelievable, the biggest and most expensive City in the nation and we not first or even in any plans to have it in the near future. We live in Manhattan, the city that never sleeps and known to have it all and we cant have lil things like all HD channels. If these channels are out there and avaiblable why cant they just pay for it or whatever they have to do to get them. Give me a break. This City sucks and TWC sucks. I guess i have to wait till 2010 to have all HD channels. I think Ima order Direct TV, i heard they got more HD programming and pay less monthly.

Effective December 13, 2007 in Woodside, Queens (ACQ) only: We will launch M HD on ch. 720, History HD on ch. 740, A&E HD on ch. 746, Food HD on ch. 750, Lifetime Movies HD on ch. 762, HGTV on ch. 764, and TMC HD on ch. 778, VS HD on ch. 794 and NHL HD on ch. 795.

WHY DOES WOODSIDE GET THESE CHANNELS ONLY?? THATS BULL@%&$#
be glad thaT you are getting 2 channels and shut up!!!! :mad::mad:

At least that is wht TWC makes us believe we all should do. ;)There is now rhyme or reason why 2 areas in the same reason has such a huge differance in HD offerings. But after I check NC listings area to area, we should be happy some of those areas are still running analog only.

All these channels to those 2 areas have been added this year. Just like I have been saying for some time the changes are coming just be patient. Unfortunately the way it looks I might get them bevore you but they will come soon enough. 2008 will be abig HD year!

This is unbelievable, the biggest and most expensive City in the nation and we not first or even in any plans to have it in the near future. We live in Manhattan, the city that never sleeps and known to have it all and we cant have lil things like all HD channels. If these channels are out there and avaiblable why cant they just pay for it or whatever they have to do to get them. Give me a break. This City sucks and TWC sucks. I guess i have to wait till 2010 to have all HD channels. I think Ima order Direct TV, i heard they got more HD programming and pay less monthly.
this is the "city that never sleeps" Meaning we our always up and about 24/7. We are Not the "City that always watches TV" At least they are making notices with in 2 weeks now instead of a months notice like they aresuppose tp. So anything can happen at anytime maybe Dec 15th, 31 st or Jan 2nd, 14th might bring some last minute holiday joy to us.

Did you guys see this:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/cityhd103107.htm

Now the next survey should be the biggest city with the leaast HD offerings. So 17% of the some 1.5 million cable, 1 mil Sat and countless OTA residents are HD ready, but we with TWC are still shortchanged

That number is going no where but up so I think it is time TW wakes up.

to add to the above:

The company also said only 13.7 percent of TV households in the U.S. have High-Definition TVs -- and the high-def tuners necessary to watch HD programming.

This is sad!!! This is the biggest problem with HD expansion today. People aren't spreading the word and are wasting money on HDTV's but still not watching HD. What a crime!!!!!

Do any of you know about the TW Internet? my question is: is there a big difference in 10mbps download and 15mbps???? I asked b/c i just got off the phone with TWC and ordered 15mbps for and additional $10 from 10mbps.
They also have 20mbps available for an additional $25 but thats way to much money. You would think they would charge a lil less as an incentive, but then i remember the company i was dealing with.

Do any of you know about the TW Internet? my question is: is there a big difference in 10mbps download and 15mbps???? I asked b/c i just got off the phone with TWC and ordered 15mbps for and additional $10 from 10mbps.
They also have 20mbps available for an additional $25 but thats way to much money. You would think they would charge a lil less as an incentive, but then i remember the company i was dealing with.


Kind of off-topic in this forum. Quick answer: What do you need 10 extra mbps for? If you're just surfing the web, gaming, and doing email/IM, I don't see the point. Plus, cable internet is shared with other users, so don't expect to get all that bandwidth during peak times.

Do any of you know about the TW Internet? my question is: is there a big difference in 10mbps download and 15mbps???? I asked b/c i just got off the phone with TWC and ordered 15mbps for and additional $10 from 10mbps.
They also have 20mbps available for an additional $25 but thats way to much money. You would think they would charge a lil less as an incentive, but then i remember the company i was dealing with.
Riverside will be one of the better guys to answer this for you but if all is logical Going from dial up to DSL is a big jump then going from DSL to cable is an even bigger jump. Then we get into the three option, while I think it is only a money ploy by TWC be giving better speeds. There are people that need the extra speed. The best test is to see how fast online pages, graphics and Videos load up and get displayed. If here is no delay or lag then you are at the best speed needed for your on-line experience. I think the top speed is more useful for professionals not general everyday surfers like you and me.

Kind of off-topic in this forum. Quick answer: What do you need 10 extra mbps for? If you're just surfing the web, gaming, and doing email/IM, I don't see the point. Plus, cable internet is shared with other users, so don't expect to get all that bandwidth during peak times.

I figured for PC downloads, xbox live gaming, downloading demo games would be a lot faster and since its available why not use it. And i figure also that since the cable internet is shared with others i would get that extra bandwidth back that im losing during those peak times.

Last question, Do you know how to check my (yours) bandwidth from the computer to make sure im getting wait im paying for???

Last question, Do you know how to check my (yours) bandwidth from the computer to make sure im getting wait im paying for???

I know there is an easier way to do this from home. However,there was a site listed a few pages ago to test your service speed. You might be able to do a search and get a few hits on how to test Cable modem speed.

you see that is why I saw it on WAM, no Starrs here. Only HBO and showtime. For the live boxing and comedy shows, and some of their exclusive shows.
I really don't like the way these three companies claim exclusive movie content for their channels, it makes us have to spend a lot more monthly if there are movies that you want to see on all 3 sets.
Yep, that's the way it works. You need to subscribe (at least) to HBO, Showtime, and Starz to see most of the movies released, as they do split them up.

Time Warner prices the Premiums on a sliding scale, so (I believe) they get individually cheaper as you add more....

So by the time you've got HBO & Showtime, you might as well just spend the extra $5/month and throw in Starz, right? And by the time you do that, you might as well just throw in another 5 for Cinemax in HD......

Scott

Who buys premium channels for the movies, anyway?

The only reason I'd even consider getting Starz is for the Anime on Starz Action, or for a few movies in HD which aren't available on HD DVD yet.

HBO HD doesn't even do OAR on its movies.
I do. Yes, HBO doesn't generally show films in OAR if their OAR is not 16:9, but many films' OAR is 16:9. But there are TONS of great movies on the collective selection of channels we've already got, if you dig deep enough into the schedule to find them.

All of the channels slip in a few genuine gems each month, in addition to the big Hollywood blockbusters.

In fact, most of my HD (and TV) watching comes from movies that I DVR from the HD movie channels.

I do. Yes, HBO doesn't generally show films in OAR if their OAR is not 16:9, but many films' OAR is 16:9. But there are TONS of great movies on the collective selection of channels we've already got, if you dig deep enough into the schedule to find them.

All of the channels slip in a few genuine gems each month, in addition to the big Hollywood blockbusters.

In fact, most of my HD (and TV) watching comes from movies that I DVR from the HD movie channels.I agree. I love surfing through the guide being surprised by what’s on the HD movie channels. I can’t remember the last time I popped in a DVD. Then again, I don’t have a BR or HD DVD system (and I have no desire to invest in that mess). Give me more HD channels—and better and longer recording options (as in archiving, multi room, etc) and I’m happy.

HBO, Starz, Showtime and Cinamax are all horrible movie channels, i got rid of all of them except for HBO b/c i like Curb your Enthusiasm, after that end in 2 weeks HBO is gone. PS3 Blu-ray, xbox 360 HDDVD thats the move better PQ and uncompressed sound also. TWC ripping people off.

I agree. I love surfing through the guide being surprised by what’s on the HD movie channels. I can’t remember the last time I popped in a DVD. Then again, I don’t have a BR or HD DVD system (and I have no desire to invest in that mess). Give me more HD channels—and better and longer recording options (as in archiving, multi room, etc) and I’m happy.
We are 100% in agreement here.

Yes, I'd like to have a BR or HD-DVD system, but only when one is declared the winner. And I'd have to spend TONS of money to see all of the movies that I watch (prob. 6-8 a week) on BR or HD-DVD.

I also sorta like the aspect that sort of "random" things pop up unexpectedly on the HD movie channels -- things I wouldn't ever think of buying/renting myself but I enjoy seeing. Or I give a movie a chance just because I've got the space and it's already paid for. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose with that strategy, though. But when you win, the payoff is that you catch a really great movie that you wouldn't have seen otherwise.

HBO, Starz, Showtime and Cinamax are all horrible movie channels, i got rid of all of them except for HBO b/c i like Curb your Enthusiasm, after that end in 2 weeks HBO is gone. PS3 Blu-ray, xbox 360 HDDVD thats the move better PQ and uncompressed sound also. TWC ripping people off.

It's been widely reported that the PS3 is not a very good quality Blu-Ray player when compared with the standalone Blu-Ray players.

Come on Broadway that is Low, I fight with you for VsHD and now I am a low tech wierdo! No fair it isn't, my fault I live in Richmond Hill, Queens and get the limited channels from TWC in HD that you get. The woodside change doesn't come close to my area. NG, A&E, and History to name a few channels that I still watch in SD because of the lack of options with TWC. Other than that I am full timne in HD land of the 700's

I'll apologize for calling you a low tech weirdo as soon as VsHD is added. ;)

But seriously, if it's not HD it's dead to me.

I am psyched about NG HD though!

If I wanted to put a TWC box in my kitchen, could I just go to a local TWC store and pick up another receiver and have it added to my account? I can run my own cable. Does TWC limit the number of boxes I can have on my account?

TIA...JL

If I wanted to put a TWC box in my kitchen, could I just go to a local TWC store and pick up another receiver and have it added to my account? I can run my own cable. Does TWC limit the number of boxes I can have on my account?

TIA...JL

If only it were that simple.

TWC will insist that a tech needs to come to your location and install the new cable box.

The only way they would allow you to pick up and install an additional box is if your account shows you previously had said connection...:(

If I wanted to put a TWC box in my kitchen, could I just go to a local TWC store and pick up another receiver and have it added to my account? I can run my own cable. Does TWC limit the number of boxes I can have on my account?This comes up about once a month and we always have several different answers.

What has worked for me is-- call them and tell them that you are adding a TV and need another box. Tell them you want to pick it up at 23rd street (wherever) and have them put it in the system (get a work order number) and you should be set.;)

If they ask about where the new TV is and wiring etc. tell them it’s right next to the other one with no additional wiring. And, when picking it up, make sure it’s an HD box regardless of whether you need one or not, especially if you’re getting a DVR.

Quick question about HDMI and the 8300HD boxes. In the past there were issues regarding these cable boxes allowing HDMI pass through with certain AV receivers. Apparently SA had corrected this problem but it was up to individual cable providers to implement it in firmware updates...I'm thinking about picking up a Denon 3808CI, but want to make sure it will play nice with my 8300HD.

I left a post earlier today asking if there was a difference in TWC internet speed from 10mbps and 15mbps and I must say that I notice a difference in the speed, I can access webpages a lot faster and all types of downloads are lot faster. I think its worth the extra $10 a month. I hate waiting for downloads. So whoever told me earlier that its not worth it for people like me and you well to me its worth it. However, the 20mbps for an extra $25 a month is not.

It's been widely reported that the PS3 is not a very good quality Blu-Ray player when compared with the standalone Blu-Ray players.

No that is not true, the PS3 is an excellent Blu-ray player and it does compare to a stand alone player, if you don't believe me go the the dedicated PS3 as a Blu-ray player thread. The PQ quality is amazing on my display and i have a Pio 5070 which is 1080i but can accept a 1080p/24 signal and when I actually play a blu-ray it shows on my plasma 1080p connection. However is you have a cheap HDTV with horrible black levels and paid like like a grand for it then no yo will not see a good picture. You get what you pay for when it come to technology and the PS3 is a awesome blu-ray player.

I am psyched about NG HD though!

yea me to that going to be great

Originally Posted by mikeM1 View Post
SO, does this mean i'll be getting those December WOODSIDE additions too, here in Jackson Hts??

;) yep

NICE! :)

This comes up about once a month and we always have several different answers.

What has worked for me is-- call them and tell them that you are adding a TV and need another box. Tell them you want to pick it up at 23rd street (wherever) and have them put it in the system (get a work order number) and you should be set.;)

If they ask about where the new TV is and wiring etc. tell them it’s right next to the other one with no additional wiring. And, when picking it up, make sure it’s an HD box regardless of whether you need one or not, especially if you’re getting a DVR.

Thanks for your responses.

Larry, your recommendation makes sense. I'll give it a try.

Regards...JL

New York leads the nation in HD adoption...
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/31/new-york-leads-the-nation-in-hd-adoption/

And trails it in HD channel availability...

If Time Warner ran Walmart, they'd stock the Anchorage store with 30 different kinds of ice makers, and the Miami store with 30 different kinds of skis and ice skates.

I know, I know... analog bla bla, bandwidth bla bla. Ironic though, isn't it?

you see that is why I saw it on WAM, no Starrs here. Only HBO and showtime. For the live boxing and comedy shows, and some of their exclusive shows.
I really don't like the way these three companies claim exclusive movie content for their channels, it makes us have to spend a lot more monthly if there are movies that you want to see on all 3 sets.

Actually, there are effectively only 2, Starz and HBO/Cinemax. I've never seen any movie on HBO or Cinemax NOT make it to the other service... d/oh they are both owned by the same parent.

Still, 3 years ago all the "first run" went to BO to build it's audience. NOW, all the "first runs" go to Cinemax. 100% a play on their part to get those paying for HBO to also pay for Cinemax. As I can wait, I stick to one and only one, HBO. Part of that is because HBO has original programing and Cinemax has ONLY movies.

I suspect the next move will be for them to start creating original content for Cinemax. God forbid they end up with some really hot shows, that might convince me to consider subscribing to both! BUT, that day I figure may be quiet a ways off in the future. Personally, I think that is a BETTER strategy than what they do now with all the 'first runs" going to Cinemax

Who buys premium channels for the movies, anyway?

The only reason I'd even consider getting Starz is for the Anime on Starz Action, or for a few movies in HD which aren't available on HD DVD yet.

HBO HD doesn't even do OAR on its movies.

How about source for HD movies? I do Starz and HBO so "exclusives" are a non-factor.

Not to forget HD original programing, of which there is a lot on HBO and SHO. I find TONS more benefits to my HBO/Starz/SHO/HDNet pay extra than the rest of the package. By a mile...

Does anyone know when and if the Science Channel will be available in HD with TWC in NYC. I had to watch Mars Rising in SD last night and it would have been awesome to see this program in HD which is says its available, but not for us. Thank god i have a Pio 5070 which displays decent SD?????

It's scheduled for 2010. By that time, we SHOULD have FIOS available all over the city and TWC will be adding TONS of content is a desperate attempt to hold onto customers. But they have 100% LOST that battle on me as I watch many in my own city set far more HD content that I get AND pay less for it to boot.

Effective December 13, 2007 in Woodside, Queens (ACQ) only: We will launch M HD on ch. 720, History HD on ch. 740, A&E HD on ch. 746, Food HD on ch. 750, Lifetime Movies HD on ch. 762, HGTV on ch. 764, and TMC HD on ch. 778, VS HD on ch. 794 and NHL HD on ch. 795.

WHY DOES WOODSIDE GET THESE CHANNELS ONLY?? THATS BULL@%&$#

Sounds like the 6 from SI we don't get plus a few more. 9 new HD channels, WOW. That is close to 50% more than the rest of us get (we get 16 non premium HD).

Wonder if they will get the 10% discount SI gets right now?

Do any of you know about the TW Internet? my question is: is there a big difference in 10mbps download and 15mbps???? I asked b/c i just got off the phone with TWC and ordered 15mbps for and additional $10 from 10mbps.
They also have 20mbps available for an additional $25 but thats way to much money. You would think they would charge a lil less as an incentive, but then i remember the company i was dealing with.

IMO I find it a bad deal. Far as I can tell, the u/l is the same, so you only get some additional bandwidth on the download. Don't think it's worth the extra 10 bucks/month.

FIOS (if you CAN get it) is a way, way, way better deal. 20 up AND down for 65/month.

Still, I DO realize that not everyone needs good broadband up, I doubt there are more than 20% of us who need to send large files like I do because I work at home for a portion of the week.

Last question, Do you know how to check my (yours) bandwidth from the computer to make sure im getting wait im paying for???

There are MANY options, but I keep ending up at http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. They do both up and down AND allow one to check with servers all over the country (I did a lot of checking over 2 days when we got 10Mb/s, finding that I could get tat speed everywhere EXCEPT from any west coast server (Seattle, SF, and LA).

Highly recommend speakeasy!

So by the time you've got HBO & Showtime, you might as well just spend the extra $5/month and throw in Starz, right? And by the time you do that, you might as well just throw in another 5 for Cinemax in HD......

Scott

Except I devoted that extra 5 bucks to HDNet over Cinemax (only available at that price if one has DVR service). All the "first runs" on Cinemax come to HBO a few moths later, so I figured to hold at least some semblance of a line with those bastards at TWC.

Think the folks in Woodside are going to pay more for getting 50% more HD than the rest of us in Manhattan? I mean 9, NINE, frakking more HD channels??? Just so those bastards can advertise how may HD channels they have in New York?

I do. Yes, HBO doesn't generally show films in OAR if their OAR is not 16:9, but many films' OAR is 16:9.

Except that there are movies than ship on DVD at 16:9 while theatrically are shown at 1.235:1. So "OAR" is more "as shown in theaters."

They DID show the whole Star Wars in OAR/as shown in theaters...

HBO, Starz, Showtime and Cinamax are all horrible movie channels, i got rid of all of them except for HBO b/c i like Curb your Enthusiasm, after that end in 2 weeks HBO is gone. PS3 Blu-ray, xbox 360 HDDVD thats the move better PQ and uncompressed sound also. TWC ripping people off.

While I heartily agree we are getting ripped by TWC big time, Curb is STILL done 4:3 SD, and THAT is a bit of a rip from HBO.

As for "ripping off" both HD optical camps are major ripping off folks, with the "war" AND the fact that each side is running around signing up exclusives for each side.

I am psyched about NG HD though!

I was too, NG was in my top 2 of desired HD channels. Still, then finding out Woodside was getting that PLUS 8 (EIGHT) more HD channels we will NOT get 100% destroyed my warm feeling with NG!

Next we'll hear Woodside is getting the 10% discount while we CONTINUE to pay full fare for less and less.

I know, I know... analog bla bla, bandwidth bla bla. Ironic though, isn't it?

The real irony is that they HAVE known all about bandwidth issues with analog over 10 years ago. Instead of starting a process that over the course of the ten years WOULD yield tons of bandwidth for HD, they 100% sat on their hands.

And NOW they are really sticking it to us in Manhattan. All because most of us have NO options at all.

Yep, that's the way it works. You need to subscribe (at least) to HBO, Showtime, and Starz to see most of the movies released, as they do split them up.

Time Warner prices the Premiums on a sliding scale, so (I believe) they get individually cheaper as you add more....

So by the time you've got HBO & Showtime, you might as well just spend the extra $5/month and throw in Starz, right? And by the time you do that, you might as well just throw in another 5 for Cinemax in HD......

Scott
Nah, that starts to add up. especially now during the TV season most of my TV time is dedicated to the big 4. So I would be paying extra for channels that are not being watched, like most of the shopping and news channels but at least I have a choice obout the premiums. You know that HBO shows Max's exclussive movies a month later as does Show w/ TMC so I get them in HD with a little patience anyway. During the summer I usually order the extra channels sometimes with a deal sometimes with not, but for those three months I get all caught up.