tonynyc, with the 8300hdc and using HDMI the cable box will output 1080i for channels like CBSHD, NBCHD but for channels like ESPNHD, ABCHD it will output 720p.

I cant set it to only 1080i for all HD channels, the box does not let me.

whats weird is my previous 8300HD box you could adjust the outputs.

If this question is not answered before tomorrow afternoon, I will try and help you seeing as I will be getting the HDC tomorrow morning. A lot of members on here I believe are trying to hold onto their 8300HD for dear life and I do not blame them.

Hopefully you will have your answer tomorrow.

I have a 8300HD in the Hudson Valley. On my box not all of the HD channels are 1080, some if not all of the over the air channels (WCBS, WNBC, et) are 780 and most of the cable channels ( DSC, NGHD, MOJO, HDNET, et) are 1080.

I'd rather have the TV reformat the signal then have the cable box do it imo.

8300HDC Output Format

Does anyone know if the 8300HDC can be set to 1080i only if connected by component connection? My Pioneer Elite Rear Projection CRT display will not accept 720p. If the 8300HDC only outputs 720p for 720p channels (WABC-DT for example) Time Warner cannot provide service to me with the 8300HDC.

Cynthia

8300HDC Output Format

Does anyone know if the 8300HDC can be set to 1080i only if connected by component connection? My Pioneer Elite Rear Projection CRT display will not accept 720p. If the 8300HDC only outputs 720p for 720p channels (WABC-DT for example) Time Warner cannot provide service to me with the 8300HDC.

Cynthia

It 'should' only be an HDMI issue (bout you never know with these boxes)

Got the new 8300HDC and it is "interesting". Way too long to reboot the box. Can take up to 5 minutes or more depending on where the L count leaves you.

The issues with 795 are still there in regards to getting this channel up and running. Guess I am going to have to cave in and get a tech out here to see what is going on.

I miss my old box already, but at least the new remote control they give you is pretty nice. Had to be one nice addition to this post. :)

tonynyc, with the 8300hdc and using HDMI the cable box will output 1080i for channels like CBSHD, NBCHD but for channels like ESPNHD, ABCHD it will output 720p.

I cant set it to only 1080i for all HD channels, the box does not let me.

whats weird is my previous 8300HD box you could adjust the outputs.

I see what you mean now on the 8300HDC. The settings to override the formats is there, but will not allow you to change them and the text does state on the interface that using DVI and HDMI will not allow you to change the settings.

We are going to have to wait for a future firmware release in the hopes this issue will be corrected.

see, and I just had to reboot again because it was displaying tv shows in 4x3 form eventhough I had settings set to stretch.

new problem,

I set my 8300HDC to stretch mode, but everytime I turn on my widescreen tv the cable shows are shown in 4x3, not fitting the full screen which is what stretch mode should be doing.

anyone have a fix for this.

see, and I just had to reboot again because it was displaying tv shows in 4x3 form eventhough I had settings set to stretch.

new problem,

I set my 8300HDC to stretch mode, but everytime I turn on my widescreen tv the cable shows are shown in 4x3, not fitting the full screen which is what stretch mode should be doing.

anyone have a fix for this.

Ok, this issue with the 8300HDC is not going to go away for you unless we get a firmware release allowing us to default at 1080i.

I had the same problems you have just posted and this pretty much forced me to go back to a component hookup to receive HD.

Now everything works fine and I removed the ability for the cable box to display 480i. From my current and past experience, the cable boxes both 8300HD and the 8300HDC never had a good working relationship going from 1080i for example down to 480i. Meaning if you were to go from HBOHD and change the channel to NY1, chances are you will get a blue screen or whatever screen on your TV will display when a picture cannot be negotiated. The result will be as you described with black bars on the side and a screw up with the way the TV is supposed to be displayed.

Do yourself a favor and go to a component hookup. You then can set it to display 1080i only, but I did notice that changing of channels is nowhere near as stressed on the cable box as it is with an HDMI hookup meaning you might just want to leave it as 1080i, 720p, and 480p and just remove 480i altogether.

Try this if you like and post your results.

Good luck.

I am gonna try one more reboot, than switch to component

ok ok, so here is what I would like to see in my set up let me know if it is possibile with the HDC:

I want 1080 channels to pump 1080, I want 720 channels to pump 1080, I want 480 channels to pump 1080 (the upscale to 1080 looks better to me than the upscale to 720 on my xbr, but have 720 native come thru as 720 also gives me better results),

currently I have to switch the settings depending on what I want

right now with tthe 8300HD

check this out, I had to reboot my cable box this morning and now I only get 4 dashes where the clock time should display. Called time warner and they tried to send the signal again but no luck with the box.

Have to go back to time warner again probably tomorrow and swap for another 8300hdc dvr box. Such a pain.

ok ok, so here is what I would like to see in my set up let me know if it is possibile with the HDC:

I want 1080 channels to pump 1080, I want 720 channels to pump 1080, I want 480 channels to pump 1080 (the upscale to 1080 looks better to me than the upscale to 720 on my xbr, but have 720 native come thru as 720 also gives me better results),

currently I have to switch the settings depending on what I want

right now with tthe 8300HD

Answer: Use component cable on the 8300HDC and this will allow you to default at 1080i for all the channel like you can on the 8300HD using HDMI cable.

check this out, I had to reboot my cable box this morning and now I only get 4 dashes where the clock time should display. Called time warner and they tried to send the signal again but no luck with the box.

Have to go back to time warner again probably tomorrow and swap for another 8300hdc dvr box. Such a pain.

Well, the box I have is running fine with the component setup so far. Have not had any difficulties with the box since stopping the use of HDMI.

Looks like all the support from TWC is going to a component hookup only for the time being. HDMI will work, but make you pull your hair out with its poor performance and channel changing hangups.

HDC full mode fixed itself, but after the update last night, I have 3 symptoms:
1) after exiting guide, the image stays small and near the top-right corner (rest of screen is grey) goes full screen if I hit PIP on-off 3 times
2) receiver needs to be put at higher volume
3) stretch mode doesn't work

so now i only have symptoms 2 and 3. I really appreciate if anyone can help.

what does four dashes mean, I have this where the time should be displayed.

humpty, stretch mode did work for me either until my cable box finally died it seems.

I know this is kind of off topic, but has anyone seen the recent WCBS commercial? Does anyone know the music that's used in it?

i keep getting this, anyone else have it? any solutions?
HDC full mode fixed itself, but after the update last night, I have 3 symptoms:
1) after exiting guide, the image stays small and near the top-right corner (rest of screen is grey) goes full screen if I hit PIP on-off 3 times
2) receiver needs to be put at higher volume
3) stretch mode doesn't work

so now i only have symptoms 2 and 3. I really appreciate if anyone can help.

Answer: Use component cable on the 8300HDC and this will allow you to default at 1080i for all the channel like you can on the 8300HD using HDMI cable.

right but there is there still no way to do this and still have the 720p channels (fox, espn, abc, etc ) to stay at their native 720 will all other channels (1080 and 480p) comming out at 1080.

To clarify I prefer to have native 720p channels hit the tv at 720, but the upscale from 480 to 1080 looks better to me than 480 to 720. Currently I have to change the settings depending on what I'm watching, not a big deal, but it would be nice to not have to.

Thanks for your feedback, it looks like the answer to my question is no

Turns out the culprit was synching between 8300HD and XBR4. I spoke to a very knowledgeable fellow at an authorized Sony repair place who told me he had encountered this quite alot, mostly with Sony and Panasonic sets, which may explain why i didn't encounter it when plugging in my neighbor's Sharp.

So the answer was to unplug component cables, UNPLUG 8300HD, plug in HDMI cables and then reboot 8300HD. When I did, the box took much much longer to boot, and when it did finally boot, it did so differently - that is no Passport logo was displayed but just the progress dots.

After the reboot audio was perfect and has remained so! So to anyone still having such problems try unplugging/rebooting.

So now my wife hates TWC. A few minutes ago she walks into the room and says "I'm watching the Science Channel and on the bottom of the screen it says it's available in HD...but I searched the HD channels and can't find it." I think that's the first time she's felt my pain. ;)

sucks to be you, stupid.

Hmmmm. I am guessing Santa left you some coal this year. :D

Is this week a "free" week? Because i got the samsung smt-h3050 this saturday and when i plugged it in i started getting all the premium channels (Starz, Hbo, ect.) I also got a bunch of foreign language channels too. But i lost a few basic channels like food and espn 2.

Is this week a "free" week? Because i got the samsung smt-h3050 this saturday and when i plugged it in i started getting all the premium channels (Starz, Hbo, ect.) I also got a bunch of foreign language channels too. But i lost a few basic channels like food and espn 2.

New boxes almost always never get the 'correct' channels at first.... it'll get fixed eventually... if you are getting more than you should - enjoy it... if you are missing something important... then call and they'll send a signal to get your box under control - but that is your call.

Hey, RG, you were concerned a while back, whether we’d get to see the game…

well Merry Christmas…

:cool:

Check this out...



NFL allows simulcast of Pats-Giants on NFL Network, CBS and NBC

National Football League

The NFL has arranged with broadcast television partners CBS and NBC for an unprecedented three-way national simulcast of the NFL Network telecast of Saturday night’s New England Patriots at New York Giants game when the Patriots will try to become the first NFL team to go 16-0 in a regular season, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced Wednesday.

A national audience will get to watch as Tom Brady, Randy Moss, and the rest of the Patriots attempt to make history Saturday night against the Giants.

» NFL Network coverage of Pats-Giants
“We have taken this extraordinary step because it is in the best interest of our fans,” Commissioner Goodell said. “What we have seen for the past year is a very strong consumer demand for NFL Network. We appreciate CBS and NBC delivering the NFL Network telecast on Saturday night to the broad audience that deserves to see this potentially historic game. Our commitment to the NFL Network is stronger than ever.”

CBS and NBC will carry the NFL Network feed of the game with Bryant Gumbel and Cris Collinsworth in the broadcast booth. The game also will be televised by WCVB-ABC (Channel 5) in Boston, WMUR-ABC in Manchester, New Hampshire (Channel 9) and WWOR (Channel 9) in New York. The telecast begins at 8 p.m. ET with kickoff set at 8:15 p.m. ET.

This will be the first three-network simulcast in NFL history and the first simulcast of any kind of an NFL game since Super Bowl I in 1967 when CBS and NBC both televised the first meeting of the champions of the newly merged National Football League and American Football League. CBS was the network partner of the NFL at that time and NBC televised the AFL. In that first Super Bowl – in which the NFL Green Bay Packers beat the AFL Kansas City Chiefs 35-10 in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on January 15, 1967 – Ray Scott, Jack Whitaker and Frank Gifford called the game for CBS while Curt Gowdy and Paul Christman broadcast the game on NBC.

Against the 10-5 playoff-bound Giants, the 15-0 Patriots on Saturday night will seek to become the first NFL team to complete an unbeaten regular season since the Miami Dolphins went 14-0 in 1972. The Dolphins proceeded to win three more games, including Super Bowl VII, to finish 17-0 for the only perfect season in NFL history. The NFL regular season was expanded to 16 games in 1978.

The Patriots also are aiming for their record 19th consecutive regular-season victory dating back to the 2006 season. With six points, they also will become the highest scoring team in one NFL season, breaking the Minnesota Vikings’ total of 556 in 1998. Individually, quarterback TOM BRADY (48) is in position to break Peyton Manning’s NFL record for most touchdown passes in a season (49 in 2004) and wide receiver RANDY MOSS (21) will set a new league mark if he catches two touchdown passes to surpass JERRY RICE’s 22 in 1987.

NFL Network is currently available on 240 cable systems, including Cox, plus satellite television providers DirecTV and Dish Network, and the telephone company TV services of AT&T U-VERSE and Verizon FiOS. But a few of the largest cable companies have refused to carry NFL Network on their most broadly distributed and affordable packages.

“NFL Network is a programming service of great interest to fans and should be broadly distributed by the cable industry,” said NFL Network President and CEO Steve Bornstein. “The only channel devoted 24/7 to America’s favorite sport is not programming that should be relegated to a poorly promoted, pay-extra sports tier that takes advantage of our fans’ passion for the NFL. A few of the biggest cable operators have refused to negotiate. We call on them to do what’s right for their consumers and negotiate agreements for NFL Network that make sense for everybody.”

NFL Network also will televise two college football bowl games over the next week. The Texas Bowl in Houston matches the University of Houston against TCU at 8 p.m. ET on Friday (December 28) and the Insight Bowl in Tempe, Arizona will send Indiana University against Oklahoma State on Monday (December 31) at 6 p.m. ET.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d805793b5&template=with-video&confirm=true

Which HD channel here in NYC has the highest bitrate stream sent via TWCNYC? I assume its probably the local (CBS-HD) channel, but does anyone know how high the bitrates actually go? Also, what about the average bitrate for a cable based HD channel like Espn, or DIscovery etc..
Thanks.

I understand that the Knicks draw better than the Rangers, but is there any reason that the Rangers game couldn't be on MSG HD tonight, as opposed to the Knicks road game in SD? Is there something that would prevent them from having the Rangers on MSG 2 AND MSG HD? Do the Knicks really need to be on 2 channels in SD?

I understand that the Knicks draw better than the Rangers, but is there any reason that the Rangers game couldn't be on MSG HD tonight, as opposed to the Knicks road game in SD? Is there something that would prevent them from having the Rangers on MSG 2 AND MSG HD? Do the Knicks really need to be on 2 channels in SD?



2 years ago this happens all the time...

It really seemed like they made efforts to schedule things properly - but they missed 2...

Hey guys, a quick question about upconversion. Does anyone have any experience with A/V receivers that upconvert? I've seen them advertised and they say with HDMI they can upconvert to 1080i (maybe even 1080p?) and I wonder how good they are and if worth getting one? I know the picture won't ever be as good as Discovery Channel HD on a good night, but can they do a decent enough job with an SD channel like, say, HBO2?

I understand that the Knicks draw better than the Rangers, but is there any reason that the Rangers game couldn't be on MSG HD tonight, as opposed to the Knicks road game in SD? Is there something that would prevent them from having the Rangers on MSG 2 AND MSG HD? Do the Knicks really need to be on 2 channels in SD?

I was highly annoyed by this as well. I don't understand why Cablevision/MSG decided to put the Knicks on MSG. First off, it's an away game and not available in HD, and the Knicks are playing poorly. All home teams should get first billing on MSG HD. I don't care if the Knicks were playing the Harlem Globetrotters in their home town of Chicago, IL. It's not a home game and not in HD, you get bumped to MSG2. I'm tired of the way Cablevision/MSG treats the Rangers organization and fans.

Is this week a "free" week? Because i got the samsung smt-h3050 this saturday and when i plugged it in i started getting all the premium channels (Starz, Hbo, ect.) I also got a bunch of foreign language channels too. But i lost a few basic channels like food and espn 2.

Is it a DVR or just a tuner? We've had precious few reports of non SA boxes, so your response is important!

BTW, a few years back I changed boxes and got the same thing, everything was WIDE open. INCLUDING all the PPV channels. Lasted almost 2 full weeks.

Hey, RG, you were concerned a while back, whether we’d get to see the game…

well Merry Christmas…

:cool:



Thanks Larry, yes it was all OVER the news. So we may get it on WWOR, WCBS and WNBC???

Of course, now we need to find out what announcing team will be on which broadcast... or maybe they will ALL carry the NFLN's announcers????

Which HD channel here in NYC has the highest bitrate stream sent via TWCNYC? I assume its probably the local (CBS-HD) channel, but does anyone know how high the bitrates actually go? Also, what about the average bitrate for a cable based HD channel like Espn, or DIscovery etc..
Thanks.

Hard to answer as finding out the bit-rate is a major hassle (I think Scott B. is out local expert). He caught them lowering the bit-rate after the 2 June HD channels got added... something they HAD to do as most of the HD channels were unwatchable (glitching every 5-10 minutes).

Thanks Larry, yes it was all OVER the news. So we may get it on WWOR, WCBS and WNBC???

Of course, now we need to find out what announcing team will be on which broadcast... or maybe they will ALL carry the NFLN's announcers????

Yes... they will all simulcast the NFL Network broadcast (announcers - graphics - most commercials - etc)

Can't resist... y'all know that I HAD been somewhat of a booster for TWC (long ago), only to be so majorly turned off by their shenanigans over the past year. Now, there's fire in my mouth for them!

So I was thinking that just maybe they would open Mojo for Christmas day, I think they were the only channel with a yule log, in HD no less. Would cost them NOTHING, but would be a very nice gesture to their customers.

BUT NOOOOOOOO, those bastards kept it closed up tighter than a drum.

Now I know they have no legal obligation to do such, it just seems yet ANOTHER instance of them sticking it to their customers.

Oh wait, maybe it played for free in the rest of the city, but was just shut off for Manhattan?

So I was thinking that just maybe they would open Mojo for Christmas day, I think they were the only channel with a yule log, in HD no less. Would cost them NOTHING, but would be a very nice gesture to their customers.

BUT NOOOOOOOO, those bastards kept it closed up tighter than a drum.


Don't we already get Mojo in NYC?

Don't we already get Mojo in NYC?

It is apart of the HDXtra tier. My guess is that Riverside_Guy does not subscribe to the extra channels.

Interesting read...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=afcLURTLAWZo&refer=home

FTA
"...Bewkes may spin off the cable-television division and sell the AOL Web and Time Inc. magazine units, said Gamco Investors Inc. fund manager Chris Marangi and National City Bank analyst Daniel Poole. The remaining company, anchored by the film studio and cable-TV networks, would resemble Viacom Inc. -- and accordingly command higher multiples, Marangi said."

A friend of mine asked me this question about HDTVs, and i'm not sure of the answer: When you're told a certain TV is, say, 43", 50", etc...how are they measuring that? Horizontally? Vertically? Both?? Thanks! I know someone will have an answer pretty quickly. :D

^^^Diagonally. For most displays used for HDTV, at a more-rectangular 16:9 aspect ratio (compared to older, more-square-shaped 4:3 displays). -- John

After last week's update my 8300HDC refuses to power up. When I try to turn it on, either using the remote or on the box itself the power on icon will light up, but no channel numbers, just the time. Nothing is output to the TV. I have to do a cold or warm boot to get the channels back. But even if I leave the box on, after 6-8 hours or so, it'll go to hibernation again. I'll need another reboot. Any scheduled shows during the hibernation will not be recorded. A tech is supposed to come tomorrow to take a look. I am afraid he'll say to change the box. This is not fine becuase I have almost 50 hours of HD stuff in my 500G drive attached to it.

Yes, the Navigator is pretty to look at but I'll take the plain Passport any time.

After last week's update my 8300HDC refuses to power up. When I try to turn it on, either using the remote or on the box itself the power on icon will light up, but no channel numbers, just the time. Nothing is output to the TV. I have to do a cold or warm boot to get the channels back. But even if I leave the box on, after 6-8 hours or so, it'll go to hibernation again. I'll need another reboot. Any scheduled shows during the hibernation will not be recorded. A tech is supposed to come tomorrow to take a look. I am afraid he'll say to change the box. This is not fine becuase I have almost 50 hours of HD stuff in my 500G drive attached to it.

Yes, the Navigator is pretty to look at but I'll take the plain Passport any time.

I miss Passport already. While I do like the better program search feature and the extended TV Guide of Navigator, the lack of proper HDMI support hurt it.

I too have a scheduled appointment tomorrow due to what I thought to be a problem with the 8300HD that was not resolved with the 8300HDC. Now I am stuck with the 8300HDC and miss running HDMI cable defaulted at 1080i. Now I am running component cable with an "ok" HD picture.

Hopefully the tech can get your box up and running, but I would not be shocked if he shows up at your door with the box in hand just to get out of your apartment in 10 mins.

Another peculiarity with my HDC is that there are a couple of channels that I cannot tune to but are able to record. I can watch the recordings but not the live shows.

After last week's update the sound volume is lower and every operation (while it is working) feels like you are dragging a beached whale.

Another peculiarity with my HDC is that there are a couple of channels that I cannot tune to but are able to record. I can watch the recordings but not the live shows.

After last week's update the sound volume is lower and every operation (while it is working) feels like you are dragging a beached whale.

Looks like you might have a defective unit. Mine has worked well outside of the lack of HDMI support. Once they patch the issue where you cannot change formats with DVI/HDMI, it will be a better unit.

I have not experienced the volume issues that you stated. Then again, I just brought home the box last Saturday from the mall.

I remember 2 years ago I had an issue with my cable box and TWC sent someone to my home. The cable man brought 3 boxes into my apartment and all looked as if they had been bouncing around his truck. One of them had the top caved in a bit. That is when I learned to never get TWC ever to send someone to my home with a box and just get one from the mall.

As long as I have working coax cable, I will pick up the box.

WARNING! HDNet time listings are wrong!

Two recent movies were cut off at the very end by my DVR. Very frustrating!:mad:

It is necessary to pad HDNet recordings or you will miss the end of your programs. Anyone else have this problem?

WARNING! HDNet time listings are wrong!

Two recent movies were cut off at the very end by my DVR. Very frustrating!:mad:

It is necessary to pad HDNet recordings or you will miss the end of your programs. Anyone else have this problem?Yes, I’ve posted this in the past. I think every movie I’ve ever recorded on that channel has ended short.

I was able to salvage one movie with the buffer and another time the recording I was watching happened to be on “live”. Fortunately they repeat things quite often. I learned long ago to always extend the end time on HDNet. Sorry you didn’t see that post.

Yes, I’ve posted this in the past. I think every movie I’ve ever recorded on that channel has ended short.

I was able to salvage one movie with the buffer and another time the recording I was watching happened to be on “live”. Fortunately they repeat things quite often. I learned long ago to always extend the end time on HDNet. Sorry you didn’t see that post.

Thanks -- I'm sorry as well!

We watched Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much" (great HDNet Hitchcock festival - love that Technicolor in HD!) and the damn thing cut off at the suspenseful climax just as James Stewart was walking down the stairs with the villain's gun at his boy's head. Terrible! :mad: They are repeating it Monday, I scheduled a manual recording to get the last one minute!

I just wrote a note to HDNet asking them to explain what is going on...I will pad from now on. I just checked "The Birds" and "Psycho" -- the credits are at the end so they are intact. Whew!

We watched Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much" (love that Technicolor in HD!) and the damn thing cut off at the suspenseful climax just as James Stewart was walking down the stairs with the villain's gun at his boy's head. Terrible! :mad:Wow, that’s funny, well not really, but that was one that ended early for me too.

I watched those Hitchcock movies a few weeks ago when they first previewed. I usually record everything I watch. I had set up three of the Hitchcock movies in a row that weekend. I had to watch the ending on the beginning of the second recording.

They looked great. Hitchcock is one of my favorite filmmakers.

Wow, that’s funny, well not really, but that was one that ended early for me too.

I would think it ended early for everyone who recorded it, no matter when it was aired.

They looked great. Hitchcock is one of my favorite filmmakers.

How could you NOT like Hitch? especially in HD, Technicolor, and Vistavision. Even the phony backdrops were great to see. Could you find Hitchcock's cameo appearence in each film?

I would think it ended early for everyone who recorded it, no matter when it was aired. I guess most watch the movies “live” otherwise there would be more complaints. I haven’t checked the programming thread to see if there is any chatter regarding this problem.

How could you NOT like Hitch? especially in HD, Technicolor, and Vistavision... Could you find Hitchcock's cameo appearence in each film?But of course...;) He's a real ham. :cool:

I guess most watch the movies “live” otherwise there would be more complaints. I haven’t checked the programming thread to see if there is any chatter regarding this problem.

Skanter1 doesn't tell us exactly where he's located, but you and the other person who's been having problems are in Flushing. That may have something to do with it. I'm in Manhattan, and I have recorded a few HDNET movies, and I have never had the problem. Maybe I'm just lucky in my choice of movies.

-barry

Skanter1 doesn't tell us exactly where he's located, but you and the other person who's been having problems are in Flushing. That may have something to do with it. I'm in Manhattan, and I have recorded a few HDNET movies, and I have never had the problem. Maybe I'm just lucky in my choice of movies.

-barry

Barry, I'm located in Manhattan as well (West Side). It seems some HDNet movies record with ending intact, others do not. Perhaps the movies with problems have running lengths closer to the allotted time slot (ie 2 hours), so if they start them 1 min. late, they will be cut short. I'm not sure, but we'll see if HDNet answers my query about it...

Others who are having the problems can try sending a question about it to this guy:

mcuban@hd.net

Question about the 8300HD...are any of the other video outputs enabled when using HDMI? I'm pretty sure the component output is disabled...but what about S-Video? I was thinking about picking up a refurb slingbox...but then I realized that I might have a problem connecting it. Thanks.

Question about the 8300HD...are any of the other video outputs enabled when using HDMI? I'm pretty sure the component output is disabled...but what about S-Video? I was thinking about picking up a refurb slingbox...but then I realized that I might have a problem connecting it. Thanks.

S Video is definitely enabled. In fact I have a slingbox connected via S-Video with the 8300 connected to my TV via HDMI/DVI and it works fine. Not sure about component but I think you are right that it is disabled b/c of HDCP.

After last week's update the sound volume is lower and every operation (while it is working) feels like you are dragging a beached whale.

I have also noticed that the volumn is lower. I did not realize it was part of an update. Very annoying.
Also, channel 24, E!, hasnt worked properly in 3 days. I only hear a continuous beep and no dialogue. Anyone else having this problem??
I am in Forest Hills, Queens.

Question about the 8300HD...are any of the other video outputs enabled when using HDMI? I'm pretty sure the component output is disabled...but what about S-Video? I was thinking about picking up a refurb slingbox...but then I realized that I might have a problem connecting it. Thanks.

I had to disconnect HDMI and go back to Component. HDMI doesn't play with others. Slingbox is a marvelous invention. S-Video to the Slingbox works just fine while using component to the TV.

Sling even has a file that installs on Windows Mobile phones. Runs smoothly on connections over about 80k.

One thing to keep in mind w/ the Slingbox. TW's upload speed which determines how well your Sling will perform is pretty anemic. Last I checked is was below 500k which is sufficient to run but not ideal.

S Video is definitely enabled. In fact I have a slingbox connected via S-Video with the 8300 connected to my TV via HDMI/DVI and it works fine. Not sure about component but I think you are right that it is disabled b/c of HDCP.

I had to disconnect HDMI and go back to Component. HDMI doesn't play with others. Slingbox is a marvelous invention. S-Video to the Slingbox works just fine while using component to the TV.

Sling even has a file that installs on Windows Mobile phones. Runs smoothly on connections over about 80k.

So you both have the 8300HD but had different results? I guess that shouldn't surprise me when we're talking about TWC. hsimms, are you positive your S-Video output doesn't work while HDMI is active?

So you both have the 8300HD but had different results? I guess that shouldn't surprise me when we're talking about TWC. hsimms, are you positive your S-Video output doesn't work while HDMI is active?

Sounds like one is using pure HDMI while the other is using HDMI to DVI.

When I was using HDMI on my 8s00HD, about a year ago, the composite video port (to my VCR) only worked when the TV was on. :-(

I switched from HDMI to component because the quality difference was undetectable to my eyes, and HDMI just had too many "gotchas".

-barry

It's possible that HDCP works different with HDMI to DVI which is why all of my other outputs are active at the same time as HDMI/DVI.

Agree that these boxes are very quirky so who know.

I have also noticed that the volumn is lower. I did not realize it was part of an update. Very annoying.
Also, channel 24, E!, hasnt worked properly in 3 days. I only hear a continuous beep and no dialogue. Anyone else having this problem??
I am in Forest Hills, Queens.

Yes i have the same thing. This has been going on and off for weeks.:confused:

Hopefully the tech can get your box up and running, but I would not be shocked if he shows up at your door with the box in hand just to get out of your apartment in 10 mins.

He did better than that, Tony. He was out in 8 minutes flat and during which he even made a personal call. Yeah, go and change the box, he said. 8300HD is still available, he said. Try your luck on Wedensay, he said.

TWCNYC is the worst service company there is, I said.

He did better than that, Tony. He was out in 8 minutes flat and during which he even made a personal call. Yeah, go and change the box, he said. 8300HD is still available, he said. Try your luck on Wedensay, he said.

TWCNYC is the worst service company there is, I said.

Hmmm. If the 8300HD is still available come Wednesday, I will certainly get it back. I have a 52XBR4 coming this upcoming Sunday and not looking to really want to do a component hookup for it.

Hmmm. If the 8300HD is still available come Wednesday, I will certainly get it back. I have a 52XBR4 coming this upcoming Sunday and not looking to really want to do a component hookup for it.

It was indeed available as of a week ago at 23rd st in manhattan. In order to get it though it may be necessary to suggest that the telephone csr told you that they were available, as they are of course pushing the HDC.

It was indeed available as of a week ago at 23rd st in manhattan. In order to get it though it may be necessary to suggest that the telephone csr told you that they were available, as they are of course pushing the HDC.

I will for sure keep this in mind. Thanks for the heads up.

I have an SD cable box (not DVR) that I want to replace with an 8300HDC. Does anybody know if I can do this at 23rd St, or do I have to have an installer come out to install it?

Thanks,
-barry

I have an SD cable box (not DVR) that I want to replace with an 8300HDC. Does anybody know if I can do this at 23rd St, or do I have to have an installer come out to install it?

Thanks,
-barry

You should be able to just walk in with the old SD box and tell the rep that you now have an HDTV and want the 8300HDC. All they are going to do is exchange cable boxes with you and tell you what the new cost will be. When you get home, you might have to call TWC and speak to a CSR to resend a signal to unlock whatever premium services you currently have, if any.

So you both have the 8300HD but had different results? I guess that shouldn't surprise me when we're talking about TWC. hsimms, are you positive your S-Video output doesn't work while HDMI is active?

Yes - about 17 months ago. Haven't retried.

Sounds like one is using pure HDMI while the other is using HDMI to DVI.

When I was using HDMI on my 8s00HD, about a year ago, the composite video port (to my VCR) only worked when the TV was on. :-(

I switched from HDMI to component because the quality difference was undetectable to my eyes, and HDMI just had too many "gotchas".

-barry

My HDMI was straight HDMI, no DVI connector.

Here is to TW having Verizon all over our city (UWS, but NYC ) bringing competition- yes may we have a choice and rid us of this Monopoly, B S of a company that gets away with to much for way to long. 08 bring us more HD but more then that Competition, please. Happy New Year to all, be safe and may all your HD dreams come true!

Yes, may 2008 be the year of the fiber. ;)

Happy New Year Guys/Girls!

^^^Diagonally. For most displays used for HDTV, at a more-rectangular 16:9 aspect ratio (compared to older, more-square-shaped 4:3 displays). -- John

Thanks, John. I hadn't been on here for several days. :)

I never had this problem before -- my SA8300HD reboots itself every time I switch from an analog channel to a high definition channel. I just started seeing this problem today (1/1/08). Anyone else experiencing this? I'm in Manhattan.

I never had this problem before -- my SA8300HD reboots itself every time I switch from an analog channel to a high definition channel. I just started seeing this problem today (1/1/08). Anyone else experiencing this? I'm in Manhattan.

Haven't had any problems....

but FYI - you only get 1 analog channel with the TWCNYC digital cable box... TV Guide channel 51 (don't ask me why...)

Everything else on the box is digital.... (you only see analog channels if you plug the cable directly into an 'old school' TV)

Here is to TW having Verizon all over our city (UWS, but NYC ) bringing competition- yes may we have a choice and rid us of this Monopoly, B S of a company that gets away with to much for way to long. 08 bring us more HD but more then that Competition, please. Happy New Year to all, be safe and may all your HD dreams come true!
Verizon's not a monopoly?
Or at least the legacy of a company that once enjoyed one, and still acts like it. Just try their customer service.

Hi guys, I have a question? Just got my first LCD 40W3000 and I'm very disapointed with the PQ. Upon reading this thread it done on me that all I have attach to my TV is the coax cable supply by my building. I do get HD channels but quality is not what I have seen in the stores. Do I need HD box to inprove the PQ?

Hi guys, I have a question? Just got my first LCD 40W3000 and I'm very disapointed with the PQ. Upon reading this thread it done on me that all I have attach to my TV is the coax cable supply by my building. I do get HD channels but quality is not what I have seen in the stores. Do I need HD box to inprove the PQ?

Welcome to the HD world

Here's a few tips:

1) An HDTV won't make regular channels look any better... but it will allow you to view HD channels (HD channels are separate from the regular channels you are used to watching....)

2) No cable box? If your TV comes with a built in QAM tuner (I believe it does, after a quck internet search) - then you should run a scan and find the local basics in HD (2,4,5,7,9,11,13) - where they area... I have no clue.. that's what the scan is for...

If you didn't have a cable box before, you weren't getting too many analog channels in the first place anyways... since TWC scrambles most of the 'good' ones

3) If you want more HD (sports, TNT, etc) - get an HD box (NOTE - if you get a box, please be aware that using a coax cable from the box to the tv will not get you any HD.... TWC does provide a set of component cables with their HD boxes.. so be sure you use them...)


That's the basics...

I never had this problem before -- my SA8300HD reboots itself every time I switch from an analog channel to a high definition channel. I just started seeing this problem today (1/1/08). Anyone else experiencing this? I'm in Manhattan.

As an update to my last message -- I tried using component cables (I used to use HDMI) and it works now. Should I even bother calling Time Warner, given their lack of support of HDMI? Looks like I have to pick up another set of component cables now... damn them.

As an update to my last message -- I tried using component cables (I used to use HDMI) and it works now. Should I even bother calling Time Warner, given their lack of support of HDMI? Looks like I have to pick up another set of component cables now... damn them.

Zytos: I have two HD DVRs and one basic cable set top box. I am buying a 3rd HDTV (but don't need a 3rd HD-DVR), so I went to 23rd street this morning (Jan. 2nd) and swapped my basic box for an HD box. According to TWC-NYC, for non-HD-DVRs (i.e. regular HD boxes), only the Samsung H3050 HD box is HDMI ready. So, with your Scientific Atlanta HD box, as you have discovered, only a component video connection is going to give you HD reception. I got the Samsung H3050 so I can use the HDMI connection.

ALL: This is my first non-SA box; we'll see how it is. At first, I could not find any threads on this STB, but now searching on "H3050" has given me some user feedback. Seems mixed, with most folks having success when going straight from STB > TV (which will be my path). Folks throwing a receiver in the middle of the chain have indicated some problems with the Samsung H3050.

I never had this problem before -- my SA8300HD reboots itself every time I switch from an analog channel to a high definition channel. I just started seeing this problem today (1/1/08). Anyone else experiencing this? I'm in Manhattan.

If you are using an HDMI hookup on the 8300HD, disable 480i output in the cable box settings and keep 480p, 720p, and 1080i. From my experience with the 8300HD box, leaving 480i on caused the box to hang badly using an HDMI hookup. Or just go with a component setup and still deactivate 480i and it should work fine.

As an update to my last message -- I tried using component cables (I used to use HDMI) and it works now. Should I even bother calling Time Warner, given their lack of support of HDMI? Looks like I have to pick up another set of component cables now... damn them.

I would not bother. I bet the CSR would claim that you have a defective box and schedule an appointment for someone to come to your home only for them to either suggest you use component cables or tell you to go exchange the box at your local office.

When I had the 8300HD, I kept the output at 1080i for everything. Something I wish I could do with the 8300HDC using an HDMI cable. I am forced to use component cables with the 8300HDC since the GUI clearly tells you that you cannot change the output format using a HDMI/DVI connection.

I am hoping this gets patched seeing as this has to piss off quite a large user base that actually care how they view their HDTV.

While some argue that they cannot tell a difference between a component hookup and a DVI/HDMI hookup, I sure can and I am pretty disappointed at the picture.

Hopefully I will have some free time to exchange the box, but I have been too busy to head into the mall and request the 8300HD back for the HDC.

So, it appears TWC will attempt to provide an "unlimited" number of HD channels in North Carolina. This will be a result of the switched video deployment.
TWCInsider, or any other insider, what is the status of SDV deployment in NYC?

http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/855233.html

I have a friend that picked up a brand new Scientific Atlanta 4250HDC from TWC 23 Street / Manhattan today.

First thing they told him was no HDMI support, only component HD.

After he complained he was told that a firmware update was in the works that (within the next 2-3 weeks) will address this problem...

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So, it appears TWC will attempt to provide an "unlimited" number of HD channels in North Carolina. This will be a result of the switched video deployment.
TWCInsider, or any other insider, what is the status of SDV deployment in NYC?

You will not see SDV deployment in Manhattan until 2009. Right now they are focusing in other markets where they face competition. In my opinion NYC will be the last market 0n the list Unless FIOs get rolling. I live in Manhattan and I already gave up regarding HD content from TWC. If you stay waiting you will wait forever, so I decide to buy one of those HD DVD players. TWCNYC has like 25 HD compressed Channels.

Verizon's not a monopoly?
Or at least the legacy of a company that once enjoyed one, and still acts like it. Just try their customer service.

I wasn't referring to Verizon being the MONOOPOLY! TWC of NYC sure has a grip on most of our short curly ones. Strange that you mention it we could have had this same conversation 30 years ago about Verizon, over the phone, Verizons phone. What did become of that Phone Company anyway? I think they were deemed a you know The M thing, smashed to small bite size pieces some of which are bigger and better for some not. Now we supposedly have cheaper service with an abundance of services to choose from! I wonder what all this means, in any case i am inviting Verizon into my home seeking the the best quality and a abundance of Hi quality PQ.:)

I have a friend that picked up a brand new Scientific Atlanta 3250HDC from TWC 23 Street / Manhattan today.

First thing they told him was no HDMI support, only component HD.

After he complained he was told that a firmware update was in the works that (within the next 2-3 weeks) will address this problem...

If this extends to the 8300HDC too, thank flippin' goodness!

the 8300hdc sucks, this is the third that I had to reboot it since I got it late last week. I am using HDMI. This morning when I tried to turn it on I got no picture or sound. Tried doing it twice with no such luck so I switched to component and it works perfectly.

It is the damn 480i that is screwing everything up, with my old 8300HD DVR I could just uncheck it but with this new box you cant adjust the resolutions. TWC needs to serioulsy put out a firmware upgrade to address this problem.

the 8300hdc sucks, this is the third that I had to reboot it since I got it late last week. I am using HDMI. This morning when I tried to turn it on I got no picture or sound. Tried doing it twice with no such luck so I switched to component and it works perfectly.

It is the damn 480i that is screwing everything up, with my old 8300HD DVR I could just uncheck it but with this new box you cant adjust the resolutions. TWC needs to serioulsy put out a firmware upgrade to address this problem.

I cannot fully say the 8300HDC sucks as I have come to actually like it for some odd reason. I just think the lack of HDMI support is what is truely killing the unit's popularity poll and once they patch it with proper support, it will be a favored box. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I honestly do not think the 8300HDC is all that bad.

My new TV is coming this Sunday and I grumble at the fact that I have to use a component hookup until they patch the HDC, but once they do, I will be a happy camper box and all.

Give it some time.

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So, it appears TWC will attempt to provide an "unlimited" number of HD channels in North Carolina. This will be a result of the switched video deployment.
TWCInsider, or any other insider, what is the status of SDV deployment in NYC?

You will not see SDV deployment in Manhattan until 2009. Right now they are focusing in other markets where they face competition. In my opinion NYC will be the last market 0n the list Unless FIOs get rolling. I live in Manhattan and I already gave up regarding HD content from TWC. If you stay waiting you will wait forever, so I decide to buy one of those HD DVD players. TWCNYC has like 25 HD compressed Channels.

Exactly. My guess is we will get maybe 1-2 new channels in 2008; BUT quality will decrease because they will have to further "compress" existing HD channels to allow for that 1 to 2 new ones.

Like some have suggested, the SOLUTION to Manhattanites woes is to move to Woodside where out neighbors pay LESS MONEY and get, what, 100% MORE HD channels than we do.

Exactly. My guess is we will get maybe 1-2 new channels in 2008; BUT quality will decrease because they will have to further "compress" existing HD channels to allow for that 1 to 2 new ones.

Like some have suggested, the SOLUTION to Manhattanites woes is to move to Woodside where out neighbors pay LESS MONEY and get, what, 100% MORE HD channels than we do.

I am sure Woodside_Guy as a handle is not taken and you can register that name when you move. :D

Exactly. My guess is we will get maybe 1-2 new channels in 2008; BUT quality will decrease because they will have to further "compress" existing HD channels to allow for that 1 to 2 new ones.

Like some have suggested, the SOLUTION to Manhattanites woes is to move to Woodside where out neighbors pay LESS MONEY and get, what, 100% MORE HD channels than we do.

1-2 new in '08.... don't be THAT pessimistic...

Anyways... they can't further compress the HD channels we already have (unless they want to be like Cablevision and stick 4 HD channels in one QAM 'slot'... but I haven't heard of 1 TWC area that does that)

They freed up some space by eliminating a few Analog channels a few months ago - doesn't seem like its being used at the moment... at least not for TV...

I'm going to guess ~5-6 new HD channels for Manhattan....

my new 8300 hdc is activing up weird again, my wife just called and said she was watching tv and the box just rebooted and flashed pink on her. She had to leave so she doesnt know if it got fixed or what. I am a little scared to go home now and see what is happening to the tv. I had the cable box set up via component cables because HDMI was acting strange (would always start up in normal screen mode even though I had stretch mode engaged). Is there a TWC upgrade going on today.

I am getting so pissed off, had this box replaced two times already within the past 3 weeks.

Hey guys, Happy Belated Holdays to all and happy three kings day to my hispanic brothers. I have been having some medical issues lately that have kept me off line lately but I am back in full swing. OK 2 things Did anyone notice the TWC franchise renewal notification in this months bill It was very light writing on an imsert that any normal bill payer wouldn't see or just throw out. I guess it is up to us HD/High tech guys to pass the word that now is the time to step up and make complaqints.
On a good TWC front has anyone seen the new remote. I got it yesterday and think everyone with the old one should get it. (It might come with the 8300HDC but not sure) It is the cliker-5 model UR5U-8800L-TWY. I mention this because it is likr the silvger choice3 on the remote channel but the good thing is it is practically set-up free and the biggest plus of all it has a backlight, nice! (red but very visable in the dark) It also has a direct one touch to ondemand chanels. Personally I think it is one of the best things TWC has ever offerred. Maybe it is just me, LOL!

1 reception issues, I don't know what has been happening lately, but for some reason my PQ has been getting better on all channels even the dreaded (By most of you) SD channels. Is there anything that is happening in the southern Queens area that I might have missed since my absence, and no I don't live in the Woodside HD rich area. Could they be begining to free up space(which could make for better PQ) for additional HD channels? I know some of you turn your back on SD completely but I still watch Not much but I need my USA, Scifi and I am not paying $22 for 2 premiums to watch only 2 of the offerings. Which brings me to, remember Encore WAM TWC was suppose to change that channel location and then the only way to get it is to order Encore. Well I was surfing last night (The writers strike has started to show in my primetime viewing and DVR usage only 9 hrs tues-frid) aand I got to 87 and the message was there about the change, but then I checked the new location and to my surprise it was still active. I know this is a sd channel but it does show some of the newer releases that I won't get on HBO and Showtime. Does anyone else still have it active?

On a side note I was watching Fox Movie channel 257. I did not know this was a unedited uninteruppted movie station. Plus they cater to us ad desired crowd by playing more recent fare from the 80's and 90's during primetime, 1999 being the latest year they show. Plus classics during the day, Kind of like AMC 54 is but without the cuts and commercials.

I hope all had a great holiday season but now everything is back to normal

1-2 new in '08.... don't be THAT pessimistic...

Anyways... they can't further compress the HD channels we already have (unless they want to be like Cablevision and stick 4 HD channels in one QAM 'slot'... but I haven't heard of 1 TWC area that does that)

They freed up some space by eliminating a few Analog channels a few months ago - doesn't seem like its being used at the moment... at least not for TV...

I'm going to guess ~5-6 new HD channels for Manhattan....

All I know is if they don't give us Golf/Vs HD by April 1st I'm gonna flip out on someone.

On a good TWC front has anyone seen the new remote. I got it yesterday and think everyone with the old one should get it. (It might come with the 8300HDC but not sure) It is the cliker-5 model UR5U-8800L-TWY. I mention this because it is likr the silvger choice3 on the remote channel but the good thing is it is practically set-up free and the biggest plus of all it has a backlight, nice! (red but very visable in the dark) It also has a direct one touch to ondemand chanels. Personally I think it is one of the best things TWC has ever offerred. Maybe it is just me, LOL!

My brother has been telling me about this remote and I want to get one to see how it is. I just don't want to end up going to 23st (doubt 219st place will have it) and turn it in just to receive the same remote back. Might go down there on Friday or next Monday on the hope of getting one.

...has anyone seen the new remote. I got it yesterday and think everyone with the old one should get it. (It might come with the 8300HDC but not sure) It is the cliker-5 model UR5U-8800L-TWY. I Hey Nutty, welcome back—happy and healthy new year to you—and everyone else too.:cool:

Is this the remote you are talking about?

http://www.universalremote.com/product_detail.php?model=123

I wish the “live” button was in a different location. That button drives me crazy.

I wish there were a "lock" button to prevent inadvertent commands.

On a good TWC front has anyone seen the new remote. I got it yesterday and think everyone with the old one should get it. (It might come with the 8300HDC but not sure) It is the cliker-5 model UR5U-8800L-TWY. I mention this because it is likr the silvger choice3 on the remote channel but the good thing is it is practically set-up free and the biggest plus of all it has a backlight, nice! (red but very visable in the dark) It also has a direct one touch to ondemand chanels. Personally I think it is one of the best things TWC has ever offerred. Maybe it is just me, LOL!

My brother has been telling me about this remote and I want to get one to see how it is. I just don't want to end up going to 23st (doubt 219st place will have it) and turn it in just to receive the same remote back. Might go down there on Friday or next Monday on the hope of getting one.

UGH! I've learned to live with the HDC, but the CLIKR-5 still trips me up. Too many buttons of similar size grouped too closely together, on a stick with no shape. I have to look at the damn think if I want to do anything more than adjust the volume, thankfully it's backlit so I can do that at night without turning the lights on. The big OnDemand button taking up prime real estate is useless and a silly way to try and encourage folks to spend money on top of their $170 cable bill. UGH!:mad:

Your mileage will vary... these things are a matter of individual taste. Just wanted to add a dissenting voice. I've been contemplating going downtown to beg for one of the old remotes, which I can operate drunk and blindfolded with one foot.

yes that is the remote, back lite also. too bad the 8300HDC sucks.

Hey guys, Happy Belated Holdays to all and happy three kings day to my hispanic brothers. I have been having some medical issues lately that have kept me off line lately but I am back in full swing. OK 2 things Did anyone notice the TWC franchise renewal notification in this months bill It was very light writing on an imsert that any normal bill payer wouldn't see or just throw out. I guess it is up to us HD/High tech guys to pass the word that now is the time to step up and make complaqints.
On a good TWC front has anyone seen the new remote. I got it yesterday and think everyone with the old one should get it. (It might come with the 8300HDC but not sure) It is the cliker-5 model UR5U-8800L-TWY. I mention this because it is likr the silvger choice3 on the remote channel but the good thing is it is practically set-up free and the biggest plus of all it has a backlight, nice! (red but very visable in the dark) It also has a direct one touch to ondemand chanels. Personally I think it is one of the best things TWC has ever offerred. Maybe it is just me, LOL!


Welcome back and Happy New Year.

I was going to post something about the new remote early last week when I got the 8300HDC, but other members were having such issues with the HDC, I decided to hold off on the new remote control. I do like it though. The red backlight is nice and bright and no more having to use the remote in front of the TV to see the buttons. :)

1-2 new in '08.... don't be THAT pessimistic...

Anyways... they can't further compress the HD channels we already have (unless they want to be like Cablevision and stick 4 HD channels in one QAM 'slot'... but I haven't heard of 1 TWC area that does that)

They freed up some space by eliminating a few Analog channels a few months ago - doesn't seem like its being used at the moment... at least not for TV...

I'm going to guess ~5-6 new HD channels for Manhattan....


A few months ago TWCNY eliminated Analog HBO (channel 80), analog Showtime(channel 79) Analog Cinemax channel 89 and the analog movie channel on channel 66 plus they move the HSN to digital tie.

An analog channel takes so much bandwidth that you can offer two HD channel with all the bandwidth that you use for that particular analog channel, so maybe we will see 6 to 10 HD channels on manhattan this year.
Now I don't know why they don't switch to digital completely instead of using channel 1-75 on analog I don't get it. I don't know how many people still have those old Jerold cable boxes.

A few months ago TWCNY eliminated Analog HBO (channel 80), analog Showtime(channel 79) Analog Cinemax channel 89 and the analog movie channel on channel 66 plus they move the HSN to digital tie.

An analog channel takes so much bandwidth that you can offer two HD channel with all the bandwidth that you use for that particular analog channel, so maybe we will see 6 to 10 HD channels on manhattan this year.
Now I don't know why they don't switch to digital completely instead of using channel 1-75 on analog I don't get it. I don't know how many people still have those old Jerold cable boxes.

TWC actually stuffs up to 3 HD channels in the space of 1 Analog channel (take a look back in this thread for a detailed spreadsheet I somehow put together of Manhattan's cable lineup) - All of what you've discussed has been detailed in this thread way back when it happened..... (HSN was moved - but they replaced it with Fox Business News)

-OTA Channels get the 'full' bandwidth treatment - so only 2 per QAM channel
-Just about every other Cable HD channel gets stuffed into 3 per.... (not as bad as Cablevision.. as i said - they'll do up to 4)

They could be using this freed-up "space" for other purposes....

-Why do they still have the analog service? because a LOT of people (unfortunately) still do have analog boxes.... some areas started forcing people to switch... but i think that can't happen now - I think i read that the government is forcing cable companies to continue analog service past the 2/09 OTA shutdown (at least for the channels normally available OTA).....

All I know is if they don't give us Golf/Vs HD by April 1st I'm gonna flip out on someone.

I concur, I also want NHL Network HD as well!!!

"Verizon's FiOS was named by Consumer Reports as the nation's top triple play internet, television and phone service."

This was in the Daily News today:

City to hold hearings for cable watchers

The city is giving cable television viewers a rare opportunity to make some static about the service they get from providers.

Viewers will be able to sound off in person at a series of public hearings in coming weeks being held by the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications. The pulse-taking of cable viewers is a prelude to DoITT's renegotiation of its nine outstanding cable television franchises, which all expire this fall, some on Sept. 16 and the others Oct. 8. They are up for a 10-year renewals.

Seven of the franchises are controlled by Time Warner Cable. They service a combined 1.1 million subscribers in Manhattan, Staten Island, Queens and part of Brooklyn. The other two franchises are controlled by Cablevision, with 600,000 subscribers in the Bronx and a part of Brooklyn. The franchises gross about $1.9 billion a year, with 5% of those revenues going to the city in franchise fees, the maximum permitted under federal law.

City Councilman Tony Avella (D-Queens), who chairs the Council's subcommittee on zoning and franchises, griped that Cablevision and Time Warner have steadily raised rates while lowering the quality of their services.

The Council has already enacted an authorizing resolution giving the city the sole power to negotiate the franchises, but Avella said he still wants to hold an oversight hearing on the negotiations. Avella urged the public to turn out for the DoITT hearings, even though they won't permit give-and-take exchanges with the DoITT representatives. A poor turnout would give city officials cause for saying "nothing has to change," he said.

The hearings on the Time Warner franchises in Queens will be held from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. Jan. 22 at LaGuardia Community College, Main Stage Theater, 47th Ave. and Van Dam St., Long Island City.

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I cut and pasted this article from the Daily News website. The list dates for brooklyn, manhattan, SI can be found in the actual paper.

i don't post much on these forums but i do read a lot about TWCNYC CSR's. We all know how horrible TWCNYC is....but perhaps this is our chance to air out our gripes. Not sure how much it will help but "....even though they won't permit give-and-take exchanges with the DoITT representatives. A poor turnout would give city officials cause for saying "nothing has to change"

I know i will be attending these hearings to let the city know that TWCNYC is a dis-service to all hardworking, HD-lovin', non-satellite having, people all over the city.

1-2 new in '08.... don't be THAT pessimistic...

Anyways... they can't further compress the HD channels we already have (unless they want to be like Cablevision and stick 4 HD channels in one QAM 'slot'... but I haven't heard of 1 TWC area that does that)

They freed up some space by eliminating a few Analog channels a few months ago - doesn't seem like its being used at the moment... at least not for TV...

I'm going to guess ~5-6 new HD channels for Manhattan....

Sorry my friend, but I think I have lost most hope.

Given what I have experienced, they will HAVE to go to 4 per QAM to get any more.

Bsides, check my post about the DOITT hearing...

Hey Nutty, welcome back—happy and healthy new year to you—and everyone else too.:cool:

Is this the remote you are talking about?

http://www.universalremote.com/product_detail.php?model=123

I wish the “live” button was in a different location. That button drives me crazy.

I wish there were a "lock" button to prevent inadvertent commands.

Wow, that one is WAY different from the one I have... and I suspect many more have the kind I have than this one. Maybe this is what is being given out with HDC boxes???

BTW, mine is the UR5U-8400.

Hey guys, Happy Belated Holdays to all and happy three kings day to my hispanic brothers. I have been having some medical issues lately that have kept me off line lately but I am back in full swing.

I be more Mediterranean than Latin, but good to hear you are putting medical issues behind you. All the best in the coming years and GIVE 'EM HELL!

I cut and pasted this article from the Daily News website. The list dates for brooklyn, manhattan, SI can be found in the actual paper.

I was just about to post this notice as well! Of course, I saw ONLY Queens listed and figured this is typical TWC SOP... only let those that get their best service talk... Queens gets 7 more HD channels AND pays 10% less than we do in Manhattan, so only let THOSE folks get a chance to grip.

If you have the paper and see the other boroughs, how about posting the dates/time here?

Clearly I advise ALL Manhattan residents to attend and make them understand how we feel about paying a lot MORE for less service.

OK, went to the DOITT website and here are the schedules for all boroughs:

New York City will be holding five (5) public hearings, one in each Borough, to solicit comments from subscribers regarding the NYC Cable TV Franchise Renewal of Time Warner Cable, in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island and Cablevision, in the Bronx and Brooklyn. Hearings will take place from 3pm-7pm on the following dates and sites with informative websites. Written and/or oral comments may be presented at the hearing or to NYC DoITT by submitting comments here.

Bronx
Date: January 17, 2008
Hostos Community College - Repertory Theater
The East Academic Complex Building
450 Grand Concourse, Bronx, New York 10451
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.hostos.cuny.edu/directory/NEWDirectory/directions.html

Queens
Date: January 22, 2008
LaGuardia Community College - Main Stage Theater, E-Building
47th Avenue and Van Damn Street
Long Island City, New York 11101
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.lagcc.cuny.edu/visit/

Staten Island
Date: January 24, 2008
College of Staten Island - Williamson Theatre, Center for the Arts
2800 Victory Boulevard
Staten Island, New York 10314
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.csi.cuny.edu/catalog/undergraduate/travel.html

Brooklyn
Date: January 31, 2008
NYC College of Technology - Klitgord Auditorium
Klitgord Auditorium Building
285 Jay Street (at Tillary)
Brooklyn, New York, 11201
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/aboutus/directions/index.shtml

Manhattan
Date: February 7, 2008
Borough of Manhattan Community College
Richard Harris Terrace - Tribeca Performing Arts Center
199 Chambers St. New York, New York 10007
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/about_bmcc/directions.html

I will check out the one at LaGuardia Community College.

Queens gets 7 more HD channels AND pays 10% less than we do in Manhattan,Don’t forget, only parts of Queens (and all of Staten Island) have more HD channels. I’m stuck in the same pirate ship as you; however, I do have the option of the multi year subscription discount (not interested) and the convenience of tossing up a dish.

My brother has been telling me about this remote and I want to get one to see how it is. I just don't want to end up going to 23st (doubt 219st place will have it) and turn it in just to receive the same remote back. Might go down there on Friday or next Monday on the hope of getting one.
You can always call to make sure but when I went to the Queens Center Store (I was to late to make the Atlantic Ave Payment center) I walked right in and went to the reception and he just took it and grabbed a new one. No waiting on any other line!! It seems like everyone will be getting these new remotes.

OK, went to the DOITT website and here are the schedules for all boroughs:

New York City will be holding five (5) public hearings, one in each Borough, to solicit comments from subscribers regarding the NYC Cable TV Franchise Renewal of Time Warner Cable, in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island and Cablevision, in the Bronx and Brooklyn. Hearings will take place from 3pm-7pm on the following dates and sites with informative websites. Written and/or oral comments may be presented at the hearing or to NYC DoITT by submitting comments here.

Bronx
Date: January 17, 2008
Hostos Community College - Repertory Theater
The East Academic Complex Building
450 Grand Concourse, Bronx, New York 10451
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.hostos.cuny.edu/directory/NEWDirectory/directions.html

Queens
Date: January 22, 2008
LaGuardia Community College - Main Stage Theater, E-Building
47th Avenue and Van Damn Street
Long Island City, New York 11101
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.lagcc.cuny.edu/visit/

Staten Island
Date: January 24, 2008
College of Staten Island - Williamson Theatre, Center for the Arts
2800 Victory Boulevard
Staten Island, New York 10314
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.csi.cuny.edu/catalog/undergraduate/travel.html

Brooklyn
Date: January 31, 2008
NYC College of Technology - Klitgord Auditorium
Klitgord Auditorium Building
285 Jay Street (at Tillary)
Brooklyn, New York, 11201
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/aboutus/directions/index.shtml

Manhattan
Date: February 7, 2008
Borough of Manhattan Community College
Richard Harris Terrace - Tribeca Performing Arts Center
199 Chambers St. New York, New York 10007
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/about_bmcc/directions.html


Thanks for this RIVERSIDE GUY!!

Hey Nutty, welcome back—happy and healthy new year to you—and everyone else too.:cool:

Is this the remote you are talking about?

http://www.universalremote.com/product_detail.php?model=123

I wish the “live” button was in a different location. That button drives me crazy.

I wish there were a "lock" button to prevent inadvertent commands.

Yeah, That is it. I am with you. While it is nice it dooes have it's flaws. But Hey we are in the middle of a tech explossion, so there is a lot of bad that comes with all of this good we get. One example at night you have to use the light even if you get to know the buttons because of the shape. At least the old remotes had a bigger top end.

On the old remote I use to always press the * button and that ould always change my screen res. So I feel your pain with button that can be touched by accident.

Welcome back and Happy New Year.

I was going to post something about the new remote early last week when I got the 8300HDC, but other members were having such issues with the HDC, I decided to hold off on the new remote control. I do like it though. The red backlight is nice and bright and no more having to use the remote in front of the TV to see the buttons. :)
Thank God! I don't have that HDC yet. Has there been a member here with out an issue?? I have had 2 8300 HD and they have run almost flawless. I get that blinking on HD once in a while but it is an easy fix. No reason to upgrade to a OS that no one likes.

I am actually surprised that I was one of the first to mention the remote. I got it wed night and wrote on thursday morn. You guys are usually a few steps ahead of me.

my 8300 HDC has had problems none stop since I got it. I miss my 8300 already. :-(

-Why do they still have the analog service? because a LOT of people (unfortunately) still do have analog boxes.... some areas started forcing people to switch... but i think that can't happen now - I think i read that the government is forcing cable companies to continue analog service past the 2/09 OTA shutdown (at least for the channels normally available OTA).....

Yeah Berk, this is , at least in this area, our biggest opponent for more HD cjannels. The Analog castaways. If they don't change that bandwith will never be able to be freed up. It was the FCC that gave the cable companies, get this, 4 extra years to 2013 to keep the analog up and running. What I don't understand, see if anyone can help me with this. OTA analog is scheduled for shut off in 2009 This is the part we all know. But Doesn't cable get all our channels from an OTA source? So wouldn't the signal be digital to star with? So now they will have to convert the signal back to analog for that 4 years if they can't get their 14 million customers(1.5mil in NYC) to get a digital box.

On the HD front, I have to be against you all, I feel that 2008 will be a boom year for us at TWC. Northern Queens and SI get assed out, they might get 1 or 2 but I think the rest of the city catches up to them and then some. Just remember you heard it here first. I will be looking forward to the rags and insults on Dec 31 if I am wrong. 10 channels is my prediction
Why do I think this, because I am thinking as a business man, while TWC has been giving more channels to the areas that have FIOS knocking on their door. It would be wise to counter act some negativity from the HD crowd when all areas around us are having HD surplus. Lets not forget Direct TV with 70 (they really only have about 40-50, multiple channels of the same station doesn't count in my book) I know River you city folk can't get it but there are some city folk that can. These are customers TWC does not want to lose. It will be a long year. But big changes are coming. TWC will be more competitive and Verizon will get it's franchise. Either you stay or go there will be more HD channels in your future.

This was in the Daily News today:

City to hold hearings for cable watchers

The city is giving cable television viewers a rare opportunity to make some static about the service they get from providers.

.
There they go again with sensationalism news reporting. "A rare opportunity", It is only rare because they get 15 year agreements. They make it seem like we don't ever get a say in the way things are done. It is our right as Americans to have a forum/hearing to have our voices heard for anything from public works to the way money is spent in this great city of ours. The problem is People think they mean nothing, that is because sometimes they do. (The TA before the last fare increase comes to mind) But like Joe said we have to show up to make a difference. He is right if nobody shows they just move on and sign the franchise with no problem, and continue to increase our prices yearly with no regulation.

It seems like you guys did miss the notice in this months bill like I wrote last page. So TWC isn't exactly hiding the issue. The are just miniturizing it amongst a bill we do not like to look at in the first place. $100+ to WATCH tv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!

Manhattan
Date: February 7, 2008
Borough of Manhattan Community College
Richard Harris Terrace - Tribeca Performing Arts Center
199 Chambers St. New York, New York 10007
3:00pm-7:00pm
For further information go to: http://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/about_bmcc/directions.html

Thanks. I'll try my best to make it. At least I'll feel better after I blast them for not granting Verizon their license yet. No competition means no services and out of control bills.

If you guys had the option of directv, would you switch? I live in a brownstone in Brooklyn and can put a dish on my roof. How does the quality compare to Time Warner, and how are the DVR options?
Thanks,
Jason

Add me to the list of those with an 8300HDC that crapped out.
It's just counting down those hxxx numbers for hours on end-I'll just have to head down to 23rd street and hope and beg they still have an 8300HD.
8300HDC-what a piece of garbage!!!:mad:

Thank God! I don't have that HDC yet. Has there been a member here with out an issue?? I have had 2 8300 HD and they have run almost flawless. I get that blinking on HD once in a while but it is an easy fix. No reason to upgrade to a OS that no one likes.

I am actually surprised that I was one of the first to mention the remote. I got it wed night and wrote on thursday morn. You guys are usually a few steps ahead of me.

I walked into 23rd Street this afternoon. The line was to the door. To the right, at the door, was a receptionist. I showed the old remote, asked if I had to wait. He pulled a new remote sealed in plastic from a drawer. We exchanged.

I like the new remote.

I was hoping the new remote had a code that would allow me to change OTA channels on my 2 year old Sammy DLP. No dice. On/Off and volume only.

or does the NBC broadcast of the Seattle- Washington game look like crap?

I was watching it via OTA on my computer...even the studio looked like crap, it was like watching a VHS that was in widescreen, the compression artifacts were everywhere.

You can always call to make sure but when I went to the Queens Center Store (I was to late to make the Atlantic Ave Payment center) I walked right in and went to the reception and he just took it and grabbed a new one. No waiting on any other line!! It seems like everyone will be getting these new remotes.

Seems like I was too early to get one from the receptionist.

On Friday, went there and he pointed me to the payment section. Was the next person on line and once I got to the window, it was a quick exchange.

Using this remote is much better than the older one. This one actually does have a code for my Vizio LCD and I like being able to use the video source button when I need to switch sources. Also, this remote works well with my stereo. This helps since the original remote is beat up and hard to work, so having another remote to turn it on and control volume helps.

The back light has come in handy and I see to like the size of the buttons better than the old one. I wonder what the D button will be used for in the future?

Thanks. I'll try my best to make it. At least I'll feel better after I blast them for not granting Verizon their license yet. No competition means no services and out of control bills.
Broadway, from all my reseach and findings there is no proof that Verizon has submitted the paper work to the Diott as of yet. the only official "unofficial" word we have seen or heard in recent months was the back door deal Mayor Bloomberg was trying. This is an article that should be available as public record so we should have seen something. I hope that a back door deal would be done because it gets the deal done faster.


DIRECT TV ANSWER

As for the direct TV guy. Sat has a better PQ period. It has the most HD channels available. The HDDVR boxes are the same as ours. You either get one that works or you don't. While I know people that love sat I also know people that regret leaving cable. signal loss is the biggest problem for SAT. Does it happen often, probably not, but do you want to be there when it happens to you during the super bowl or any TV show that you love? I know there are many here that have had various problems with TWC, but I have not and when it come to signal. The only time it went down in the past 5 years was because of the BLACKOUT. sure TWC isn't flawless, but they have been improving, but for some/many it is to little too late!! In Brooklyn you should have no problem picking up a SAT signal but it depends on what is arond you. If you are surrounded by tall buildings they may add interference tp your signal. It will come down to your decision, but I think Direct TV gives you a protection that if it doesn't work they will give you a compleye refund. Check for that before you decide on either.

The back light has come in handy and I see to like the size of the buttons better than the old one. I wonder what the D button will be used for in the future?

I was thinking the same damm thing, but maybe other cable systems have a 4th choice. We here in TWC land have always had only 3!

I am happy you guys are seeing how easy it is to change and how much better this remote is. The only issue I have is that it is not on the Remote channel yet. Here is my problem, not really a problem more of an issue. I have to press 2 buttons instead of one for volume control. I have a Sony TV and 8300 box, both were pre-programmed to the remoote, yeah!! but when I went to use the volume it was using the STB control, BOO!! I went to the remote channel to set the volume for only the TV and ithe remote wasn't listed and the instruction booklet was no help. So now I have to press TV to change the volume but at least the controls still are for the STB. Has anyone had the same issue?

I was thinking the same damm thing, but maybe other cable systems have a 4th choice. We here in TWC land have always had only 3!

I am happy you guys are seeing how easy it is to change and how much better this remote is. The only issue I have is that it is not on the Remote channel yet. Here is my problem, not really a problem more of an issue. I have to press 2 buttons instead of one for volume control. I have a Sony TV and 8300 box, both were pre-programmed to the remoote, yeah!! but when I went to use the volume it was using the STB control, BOO!! I went to the remote channel to set the volume for only the TV and ithe remote wasn't listed and the instruction booklet was no help. So now I have to press TV to change the volume but at least the controls still are for the STB. Has anyone had the same issue?

There is a way (it should work on most remotes that TWC gives out) to have the volume control do what you want...

You have to program each function of your remote (TV, CBL, DVD, etc) to have the volume control work for one specific devise (you will have to repeat it 5 times)

Right now I don't remember it by heart... but I can hopefully fill you in later...

Hmmm. Some interesting reading on where the direction of Scientific Atlanta and their cable boxes are going.

Looks like we are seeing the last breed of boxes with the name Scientific Atlanta.

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2008/prod_010708c.html?POSITION=CESPressKitLink8&COUNTRY_SITE=us&CAMPAIGN=CES2008&CREATIVE=The+Cisco+8550HDC+DVR+Set%2DTop+Series&REFERRING_SITE=NewsatCiscoPressKit

Hmmm. Some interesting reading on where the direction of Scientific Atlanta and their cable boxes are going.

Looks like we are seeing the last breed of boxes with the name Scientific Atlanta.

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2008/prod_010708c.html?POSITION=CESPressKitLink8&COUNTRY_SITE=us&CAMPAIGN=CES2008&CREATIVE=The+Cisco+8550HDC+DVR+Set%2DTop+Series&REFERRING_SITE=NewsatCiscoPressKit
yeah these boxes are suppose to be motre TIVO like with the extras + DVR. But from my understanding when TWC contract with Cisco/SA runs out they will not be renewing it. They signed on with Samsung to use there next gen DVR and standard boxes but they aren't in rotation yet. Somebody posted the article here months ago when aall the talk was about SDV and multi use boxes.

All these companies are trying(to hard IMO)to make their STB a multi media device, not just for cable anymore. I know that is the price and this electronic boom we are in now but IMO the more the box does the more we lose on 5the activities the boxes does now. I don't think we are ready for it as a society. If people don't even know how to watch on demand programing let alone know that they aren't watching HD just because they have a HDTV. Why do they think we would be ready for this multi function box?

to add to your Cisco 8500 finding tony here are the specs.


Page 1 of 5
Explorer 8550HD DVR
Service providers can elevate their service bundle with higher quality audio and video,
and faster applications processing, all while supporting bandwidth management
objectives. Digital Video Recording becomes all the more compelling with the Cisco
Explorer® 8550HD™ DVR Set-Top. Subscribers can view and record their favorite
programs and enjoy the convenience of viewing what they want, when they want.
Figure 1. Explorer 8550HD DVR
Features
Network Utilization Enhancements
● 1 GHz Tuning allows service providers to expand network bandwidth to provide additional
services such as HD and VOD, VoIP video, and high speed data
● MPEG-4 (H.264) Decoding supports compression technology that provides better video
quality at about half the data rate of MPEG-2
● DOCSIS® 2.0 provides greatly increased upstream throughput for future advanced services
and provides a path for future IP video services (optional software)
OpenCable and Conventional Network Support
● Embedded PowerKEY® Conditional Access provides digital security using an RSA
encryption algorithm
● Axiom™ DVR Middleware supports OpenCable™ (OCAP™) applications such as Service
Navigators, Games, and many other future applications (optional software)
● DOCSIS Set-top Gateway (DSG) provides a powerful standard transport mechanism for
command and control signaling between the set-top and service provider network (optional
software)
● SARA DVR Software on a set-top provides a native navigator and user interface in a non-
OCAP service provider network environment (optional software)
● DAVIC Receiver/Transmitter allows IP-based, real-time, two-way communication between
the set-top and the service provider network for services such as on-demand service
(optional software)
Data Sheet
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DVR and Home Networking Features
● Dual-tuner DVR allows one program to be recorded while viewing or recording another
program
● Picture-in-Picture (PIP) allows viewing two separate video sources simultaneously
● 160 GB Internal Hard Drive stores up to 90 hours of SD or 20 hours of HD programs
● USB 2.0 Connection enables a host connection to peripheral devices such as navigation
controllers, network adapters, and memory media readers (optional software)
● Ethernet Connection enables a connection to the home IP LAN for advanced services such
as content sharing to the set-top from retail-purchased electronic devices (optional software)
Figure 2. Explorer 8550HD DVR Front Panel (image may vary from actual product and specification)
Table 1. Front Panel Features
Feature Description
Connections USB 2.0 Host Video-in, L-R Audio-in, Smart Card slot, software controlled
Controls IR Receiver, 10 Buttons: Power, List, Exit, Info, Guide, Vol+, Vol-, Ch+, Ch-, Select
Indicators Four 7-segment digits, Power (icon), Message (icon), Record (icon), HDTV, 5.1, Auto, 1080i p,
720i p, 480i p
Color Silver paint, black lens, silver buttons, dark grey button text, white button text
Branding Cisco, model number, provision for service provider branding, HDTV Cable
Figure 3. Explorer 8550HD DVR Back Panel (image may vary from actual product and specification)
Table 2. Back Panel Features
Feature Description
Connections In Cable In
Connections Out Video Archive, L-R Audio Archive, Video 1, L-R Audio 1, YPbPr, Coax Digital Audio, L-R Audio
2, Optical Digital Audio, IR, S-Video, TV Cable Out, HDMI™, Dual IEEE-1394 4-Pin, software
controlled
Output Resolutions 1920 x 1080i 60 Hz, 1280 x 720p 60 Hz, 720 x 480p 60 Hz, 720 x 480i 60 Hz, software
controlled
Output Control Scaled video-in graphics, scaled HD video-in graphics, graphics on HD and SD outputs, aspect
ratio control, native resolution pass-thru, HD down convertible to SD, software controlled
Connections-Interactive USB 2.0 Host, eSATA, RJ-45 Ethernet, software controlled
Power Input Polarized 2-prong modular cord plug, 115 VAC, 60 Hz
Power Output Polarized 2-prong outlet, 500 W max, at input line voltage, software controlled
Labels Serial Number, RF MAC Address, eCM MAC Address
Data Sheet
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Specifications
Table 3. Product Specifications
Specification Value
Tuning and Decoding
DVR Dual tuning, Dual Record, Dual Playback, Pause, Rewind, Fast-Forward, Record one program
while viewing another program, software controlled
Picture in Picture Digital, HD, Analog, software controlled
Tuning Dual QAM 64 or 256, Dual Analog, In-Band 54 MHz–1GHz, QPSK out-of-band (OOB)
70–130 MHz, DOCSIS 91–867 MHz, A/V in display
Video Decoders Dedicated Dual 400 MHz VLIW CPU Processors, Dual MPEG-4 (H.264) up to HP@L4.0 (HD), Dual
VC1 AP@L2&3, Dual MPEG-2 up to MP@HL, 1920 x 1080i 60 Hz, 1920 x 1080p 30 Hz, 1920 x
1080p 24 Hz, 1280 x 720p 60 Hz, 720 x 480p 60 Hz, 720 x 480i 60 Hz, Video Scaling, software
controlled
Audio Decoders Dedicated Dual 250 MHz DSP CPU Processors, Dual Dolby® Digital to 5.1, Dual MPEG-1 and
MPEG-2, Dual BTSC/SAP, Dual Dolby Digital+, Dual AAC, Dual AAC+
Conditional Access Embedded PowerKEY, Smart Card slot, software controlled
Encoders Audio BTSC for TV Cable (RF) Output, Dual Video and Audio (from analog) for recording
Graphics Engine 2.5 Dimension graphics, up to 960 x 540 resolution, 32 bit (16 million) color
DAVIC DAVIC 1.2, QPSK FDC at 1.5 Mbps, QPSK RDC at 1.5 Mbps, software controlled
DOCSIS OOB and Interaction via DOCSIS 2.0, DOCSIS Set-top Gateway, Baseline Privacy Interface,
software controlled
Memory/Storage
CPU/Apps RAM 192 MB (see Note 1)
Video Graphics 64 MB
Video Encoder 16 MB
CPU Flash 2 MB
CPU NVM 16 KB
Hard Drive 160 GB, Internal SATA, 1.5 Gbs, 7200 RPM
Boot Partition on HDD 256 MB (see Note 2)
Hard Drive Expansion External SATA (eSATA), 1.5 Gbs, rear panel, software controlled
Processors
Application/CPU 600 MHz (800 MIPS)
Video Graphics Dual 400 MHz VLIW CPUs
Audio Dual 250 MHz DSP CPUs
DOCSIS 200 MHz CPU
Dimensions
Product (HxWxD) 3.25 in. x 15.6 in. x 11.2 in. (8.3 cm x 39.7 cm x 28.5 cm)
Product Weight 8.3 lbs (3.8 kg)
Carton (HxWxD) 6.12 in. x 18.0 in. x 14.0 in. (15.6 cm x 45.8 cm x 35.6 cm)
Total Weight 11.6 lbs (5.3 kg)
Environment Specifications
Placement Locate with at least 2 inches of open space above and on each side
Room Temperature 32–105ºF (0–40ºC) during operation
Power Dissipation 50 W maximum
Data Sheet
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Table 4. Accessories
Specification Value
In Carton
Power Cord, Quick Reference Guide, YPbPr Component Video, L/R Audio Cable
Sold Separately Part Number
Axiom DVR Middleware License (see Note 1) 4014594
SARA DVR Software License 3-year 752352
SARA DVR Software License 2-year 4020470
SARA DVR Software License 1-year 4020469
AllTouch® AT8550™ Remote Control 4006369
AllTouch® AT8560™ Remote Control 4016237
HDMI-to-HDMI Cable 1002048
HDMI-to-DVI Cable 1002056
YPbPr and L/R Cable Set (additional or replacement) 1000944
RGB adapter and cables 749790
IR Extender—12 ft 1001807
IR Extender—25 ft 4006725
Ordering Information
Table 5. Ordering Information
Model Description Part Number
Set-Top
Explorer 8550HD 8550HD, HD MPEG-4/-2 DVR with 160GB HDD, 192 MB CPU RAM, 64 MB
Video RAM, DOCSIS, Ethernet, and Smart Card Interface 4021102
Note: 1. Axiom DVR Middleware for OCAP support is recommended only for the 8550HD
models that have 192MB or more of CPU RAM.
Note: 2. Boot Partition provides space on the hard drive for storing the set-top’s core software.
Additional non-core application storage space may be made available on the hard drive. The Boot
Partition is analogous to a portion of the role traditional Flash memory serves on non-hard drive
set-tops.
Data Sheet
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With respect to each AVC/MPEG-4/H.264 product, Scientific Atlanta is obligated to provide the following notice:
AVC VIDEO LICENSE
THIS PRODUCT IS LICENSED UNDER THE AVC PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSE FOR THE PERSONAL
AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE OF A CONSUMER TO (i) ENCODE VIDEO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AVC
STANDARD (“AVC VIDEO”) AND/OR (ii) DECODE AVC VIDEO THAT WAS ENCODED BY A CONSUMER
ENGAGED IN A PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND/OR WAS OBTAINED FROM A VIDEO
PROVIDER LICENSED TO PROVIDE AVC VIDEO. NO LICENSE IS GRANTED OR SHALL BE IMPLIED FOR
ANY OTHER USE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MAY BE OBTAINED FROM MPEG LA, L.L.C. SEE
http://www.mpegla.com.
Accordingly, please be advised that service providers, content providers, and broadcasters are required to
obtain a separate use license from MPEG LA prior to any use of AVC/MPEG-4/H.264 encoders and/or
decoders.
Scientific Atlanta, AllTouch, Explorer, and PowerKEY are registered trademarks of Scientific-Atlanta, Inc.
8550HD, AT8550, AT8560, and Axiom are trademarks of Scientific-Atlanta, Inc.
Cisco, the Cisco logo, and Cisco Systems are trademarks or registered trademarks of Cisco Systems, Inc.
and/or its affiliates in the U.S. and certain other countries.
DOCSIS is a registered trademark of Cable Television Laboratories, Inc.
OpenCable and OCAP are trademarks of Cable Television Laboratories, Inc.
Manufactured under license from Dolby Laboratories.
“Dolby” and the double-D symbol are trademarks of Dolby Laboratories.
HDMI and the HDMI logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of HDMI Licensing LLC.
All other trademarks shown are trademarks of their respective owners.
Specifications and product availability are subject to change without notice.
© 2007 Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. All rights reserved.
Scientific-Atlanta, Inc.
1-800-722-2009 or 770-236-6900 Part Number 7011520 Rev A
www.scientificatlanta.com December 2007

Explorer 8550HD DVRThese boxes are not in our future. I think Cablevision or other Sara based systems would get them.

sorry guys I was trying to get you a picture but you will have to ggo to the cisco site for that THINK OREO! sILVER ON TOP AND BOTTOM AND BLACK IN THE MIDDLE

Add me to the list of those with an 8300HDC that crapped out.
It's just counting down those hxxx numbers for hours on end-I'll just have to head down to 23rd street and hope and beg they still have an 8300HD.
8300HDC-what a piece of garbage!!!:mad:

To continue my personal, sad 8300HDC saga-went down to 23rd st-and was only able to get a replacement 8300HDC-the rep was nice enough to go looking for a 8300HD, but he said none could be found. Got home-installed-and I found out I could not pause or record anything! Why? BECAUSE THE STUPID MACHINE SAID THAT YOUR STORAGE IS FULL-TO MAKE ROOM, DELETE SHOWS FROM THE SHOW LIST. Of course, the Show List says NO SHOWS SAVED!!
Another defective unit-another trip to 23rd st-more time wasted!:mad::mad:

These boxes are not in our future. I think Cablevision or other Sara based systems would get them.
THEY JUST STARTED BEIJNG AVAILABLE RECENTLY SO i DOUBT THEY MADE ANY TYPE OF CIRCULATION AS OF YET. OOPA caps on, anyway. It would take a couple of months after release to make it to Joe Public. I wouldn't be surprised if Cablevision goes with them. TWC if they don't have an exclusive only with samsung, might get them everywhere but the NYC area ofcourse.

Hello all, Im in queens and am getting my first hd-dvr box from time warner on wednesday. I assume im getting the 8300hdc box, and I planned to hook it up to my reciever via hdmi. Now reading these recent posts about this box and hdmi issues its scaring the hell outta me, should I not even bother with hdmi and just get component cables? What a nightmare, I was so psyched now im worried! Is there anyone out there with this box and is happy with it????

To continue my personal, sad 8300HDC saga-went down to 23rd st-and was only able to get a replacement 8300HDC-the rep was nice enough to go looking for a 8300HD, but he said none could be found. Got home-installed-and I found out I could not pause or record anything! Why? BECAUSE THE STUPID MACHINE SAID THAT YOUR STORAGE IS FULL-TO MAKE ROOM, DELETE SHOWS FROM THE SHOW LIST. Of course, the Show List says NO SHOWS SAVED!!
Another defective unit-another trip to 23rd st-more time wasted!:mad::mad:
It is obvious you live in manhattan, but my suggestion is to go to a payment center if you can. The stores are busy and run through stock faster then a payment center does. Unfortunately the bill doesn't show the payment centers anymore. The only one I know of is on Atlsantic ave in queens. But I read here that there was one uptown. The HDC have been out for a while so a reg 8300hd is probably a very very hard find.

Barry, I'm located in Manhattan as well (West Side). It seems some HDNet movies record with ending intact, others do not.

[SNIP]

Others who are having the problems can try sending a question about it to this guy:

mcuban@hd.net
Actually, I think you'll get in touch with a much more useful person (and get a more timely response) through this address:
viewer@hd.net

Marc Cuban is the owner of the company, and the Dallas Mavericks too.

I've actually had very positive experiences by emailing the viewer@hd.net address in the past. They have real people who know what's going on there answering their emails.

Scott

Hello all, Im in queens and am getting my first hd-dvr box from time warner on wednesday. I assume im getting the 8300hdc box, and I planned to hook it up to my reciever via hdmi. Now reading these recent posts about this box and hdmi issues its scaring the hell outta me, should I not even bother with hdmi and just get component cables? What a nightmare, I was so psyched now im worried! Is there anyone out there with this box and is happy with it????
get HDMI because that is the future, I don't know what TV you have but for some a HDMI supplied PQ is much better than a component one. Also at least for me this is true the sound through HDMI comes out clearer and louder then component. EX: HDMI low bedtime volume would be 14 while component would be 25 REG watching 35 for HDMI 50 component. The cable company will give you component cables and they are of decent quality so there is no reason to upgrade those cables.
tHE 8300hdc HAS A BAD REP, BUT THERE are PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO PROBLEMS SO IT IS LIKE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE THESE DAYS, IT IS HIT OR MISS.

Hello all, Im in queens and am getting my first hd-dvr box from time warner on wednesday. I assume im getting the 8300hdc box, and I planned to hook it up to my reciever via hdmi. Now reading these recent posts about this box and hdmi issues its scaring the hell outta me, should I not even bother with hdmi and just get component cables? What a nightmare, I was so psyched now im worried! Is there anyone out there with this box and is happy with it????

Be ready to deal with both.

They will supply component cables...

The HDMI issues are hit-and-miss... so have your own, and see what happens when you use it.

Be ready to deal with both.

They will supply component cables...

The HDMI issues are hit-and-miss... so have your own, and see what happens when you use it.



THanks, i'll try hdmi to start. At least they supply component cables if i have problems with hdmi, which im fully expecting to have.

THanks, i'll try hdmi to start. At least they supply component cables if i have problems with hdmi, which im fully expecting to have.
I have to find the spec sheet like the one I found with the 8550hdc because if you guys read it Cisco is including HDMI caables in the package. I wonder if the 8300 is suppose to come with HDMI cables also, but TWC chooses not to offer them because of their company line last year. "TWC doesn't support HDMI" This year they do so it wouldn't hurt to ask if they had them available. HDMI is the more expensive cable so if you had the choice I would get the HDMI free because componet cable you can get anywhere.

It is obvious you live in manhattan, but my suggestion is to go to a payment center if you can. The stores are busy and run through stock faster then a payment center does. Unfortunately the bill doesn't show the payment centers anymore. The only one I know of is on Atlsantic ave in queens. But I read here that there was one uptown. The HDC have been out for a while so a reg 8300hd is probably a very very hard find.

I'm going to try Broadway and 219th Street. The guy at 23rd street even suggested that I might give it a shot and try to score a 8300HD!!:rolleyes:

I have to find the spec sheet like the one I found with the 8550hdc because if you guys read it Cisco is including HDMI caables in the package. I wonder if the 8300 is suppose to come with HDMI cables also, but TWC chooses not to offer them because of their company line last year. "TWC doesn't support HDMI" This year they do so it wouldn't hurt to ask if they had them available. HDMI is the more expensive cable so if you had the choice I would get the HDMI free because componet cable you can get anywhere.


I actually already got an hdmi cable knowing I was gonna hook up the dvr via hdmi, but now im not so sure! Ive just recently upgraded my home theatre and all I hear about is hdmi (which i had never even heard of 2 months ago), so ive been making sure the reciever, tv, and dvd player i got all support hdmi and have enough hdmi inputs (especially the reciever). The last thing I expected to have a problem with would be the cable box, and of course thats what ill be watching the most!!

I'm going to try Broadway and 219th Street. The guy at 23rd street even suggested that I might give it a shot and try to score a 8300HD!!:rolleyes:
good luck!! Let us know because I know a few people on here that want their old box back.

I actually already got an hdmi cable knowing I was gonna hook up the dvr via hdmi, but now im not so sure! Ive just recently upgraded my home theatre and all I hear about is hdmi (which i had never even heard of 2 months ago), so ive been making sure the reciever, tv, and dvd player i got all support hdmi and have enough hdmi inputs (especially the reciever). The last thing I expected to have a problem with would be the cable box, and of course thats what ill be watching the most!!
Well the futrue is now and HDMI is he way to go unfortunayely it isn't with out it's flaws.
Plus on top of HDMI being HDMI you might have to check if Any of your components support HDMI 1.3 While the STB's do not support HDMI 1.3 Some Blu-ray and HD DVD players do as well as some TV's and the PS3. Whyn is this improtant? you may be asking. Becasue they 1.3 handles the color and speed transfer better then the HDMI 1.2, If your TV is not abale to support HDMI 1.3 then forget I mentioned this paragraph..
So just like me and berk we have component and HDMI connected. It is safer to have them both.

If you guys had the option of directv, would you switch? I live in a brownstone in Brooklyn and can put a dish on my roof. How does the quality compare to Time Warner, and how are the DVR options?
Thanks,
Jason
I also live in brownstone Brooklyn and I placed my order for DirecTV last night. I have a weekend home in MA and have had DirecTV for years. Before I got an HDTV (and thus when I still had the standard def TWCable box) I thought TWC was just fine. But ever since I upgraded to HDTV in Brooklyn I have been suffering with the terrible TWC hardware and software. I'm on my 4th box, and even now I'm watching the BCS football championship in standard def because Fox keeps flaking out in HD. We've had tons of shows that haven't recorded as scheduled, we've had to reboot the box at least twice a week since we "upgraded" in July, and we've had other problems as well.

The DirecTV HD DVR box and software in our MA home is miles better than TWC. The interface is really nice, the box never fails (knock on wood) and it has some nice little features like a quick, smooth 30 second fast forward which is just perfect for football. And of course there are many more HD channels.

I think the only things we're giving up are certain on-demand features (movies and HBO) which we do use from time to time, and it looks like The CW isn't offered in HD. This is strange, but I could be wrong and my kids only watch one or two shows on The CW in any case.

I have nothing against TWC. If their HD box and software were identical to their standard def offering, I wouldn't go through the hassle of switching, even with fewer HD channels. But the HD box from TWC in Brooklyn is completely unreliable, and after six months we're throwing in the towel.

So just like me and berk we have component and HDMI connected. It is safer to have them both.
Wonder if you've tried measuring just how much better HDMI's resolution capabilities are compared to component? If you've DVR-stored HDNet's Saturday 6:30 am ET test patterns, a comparison of the converging-line wedges (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6664456&&#post6664456) (vertical for horizontal res, horizontal for vertical res) might reveal differences.

The number at the 'grayout' merge point indicates maximum resolution. A grayout point at 10.7 in the vertical wedges, for example, indicates nearly maximum horizontal resolution (with 1080p displays): 10.7 X 100 X 1.78 = ~1905 lines (out of 1920). A merge-point of 10 in the horizontal wedges is 1000 lines: 10 X100 = 1000 lines (out of 1080).

NYC TWC member imws measured (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8865051#post8865051) about 1335 lines maximum horizontal resolution in '06 with a Sony Ruby 1080P display, and others have measured ~1300 lines locally. Someone at a former TWC site in Orlando measured close to full resolutions. How HDNet's measured test pattern limitations applies to other channels is...a good question! -- John

good luck!! Let us know because I know a few people on here that want their old box back.

Well-no 8300HD at Bdwy & 219th, either!! The rep did go back and spent some time looking for one, but no dice. At least the 8300HDC I got there-fresh in the box-works (so far,at least!!):o I still greatly prefer the 8300HD OS!!!

Comcast will offer more than 1,000 high-definition choices by the end of 2008, Comcast CEO Brian Roberts said during his keynote address Tuesday morning at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

The cable operator is rolling out a new system architecture called Project Infinity that will increase the amount of video-on-demand Comcast can offer.

“This will let us offer over 6,000 movies on-demand, more than 3,000 in HD,” Mr. Roberts said. “This new architecture paves the way for our ultimate visions of what on-demand can be. Project Infinity is the content-hungry consumers’ dream. … You are never going to want to get off the couch.”
- TV Week

Everyone going to the meetings should say that TWC should get it's franchise totally revoked in all 5 boroughs, to be replaced by FiOS or Cablevision. which both have better TV choices.

Everyone going to the meetings should say that TWC should get it's franchise totally revoked in all 5 boroughs, to be replaced by FiOS or Cablevision. which both have better TV choices.

freaking Right! Plus they should be made to give us refunds.

Everyone going to the meetings should say that TWC should get it's franchise totally revoked in all 5 boroughs, to be replaced by FiOS or Cablevision. which both have better TV choices.

If they allow us a chance to speak, I will push for Verizon FIOS and also against TWC for their lack of support for their RoadRunner internet in Queens NY which has piss poor performance speeds for the last 2+ years.

Hey Guys,
After exiting the guide on my 8300HDC, pic stays small and in the corner...pressing PIP on-off twice makes it full screen again. Anybody have this seemingly chronic issue?

Hey Guys,
After exiting the guide on my 8300HDC, pic stays small and in the corner...pressing PIP on-off twice makes it full screen again. Anybody have this seemingly chronic issue?

Odd. I don't have that problem with my 8300HDC. Have you tried unplugging the box from power for 10 seconds and letting the box reboot itself? If not, try this and see what happens. If it continues, bring the box in to the TWC center and exchange it for another 8300HDC.

Thanks. I'll try my best to make it. At least I'll feel better after I blast them for not granting Verizon their license yet. No competition means no services and out of control bills.

You will NOT believe this... I think TWC has lobbied the Courts quite hard so that I received a summons for jury duty... FOR THE 7th of FEB!

They ARE out to get me <g>!

I'm going to try Broadway and 219th Street. The guy at 23rd street even suggested that I might give it a shot and try to score a 8300HD!!:rolleyes:

Good luck, but as far as I've read, not one person has been able to get a HD box from TWC-NYC since July 1st. To me this means they have a policy NOT to give anyone such a box.

While I have major issues with such a policy, I can actually see their side here (as in they actually DO have a side, unlike many other "policies"). I figure they now know how badly they screwed up by NOT doing ANYTHING to replace all those analog boxes that are keeping us in SD purgatory (I say that based on a conversation with them 8-10 years ago when I was told they DID have a plan to get ALL analog boxes replaced... if they actually did what they said they had to, we'd have tons of HD channels today).

Hey Guys,
After exiting the guide on my 8300HDC, pic stays small and in the corner...pressing PIP on-off twice makes it full screen again. Anybody have this seemingly chronic issue?

A friend of mine has the 8300HDC - and I happened to witness this happen to him for the first time 2 weeks ago.

One of the many little glitches of this box....


And now I'm afraid... as the hard drive on my 8300HD box is starting to act up..... I don't want to have to get it replaced yet!

And now I'm afraid... as the hard drive on my 8300HD box is starting to act up..... I don't want to have to get it replaced yet!

Yeah, I've had 2 hard drives die over the past few years on my 8300HD. In lieu of all the problems with the C series boxes, if it happens again, I'll really consider opening up the unit and taking a shot at replacing the drive myself.

Anyone had any experience doing this? :D

A_C

Everyone going to the meetings should say that TWC should get it's franchise totally revoked in all 5 boroughs, to be replaced by FiOS or Cablevision. which both have better TV choices.

Personally I think the "you give some residents MORE HD channels AND charge them LESS than the residents who do NOT get those additional channels" is an even better indictment. THIS is the kind of harm to it's citizens that the DOITT is SUPPOSED to be watch dogging. THIS is where they should listen, this is the kind of action that SHOULD get TWC's license not renewed.

Yeah, I've had 2 hard drives die over the past few years on my 8300HD. In lieu of all the problems with the C series boxes, if it happens again, I'll really consider opening up the unit and taking a shot at replacing the drive myself.

Anyone had any experience doing this? :D

A_C

For the longest time, I thought it better to up the capacity of the internal drive before adding an external.

From all that I have read, it seems the ONLY folks who HAVE done that (to a SA 8300HD) are folks in Canada. Using some educated guessing, it seems the issue is that once you replace the internal drive, there are "things" that need to be done to make it functional. Amou/RTOSng them would be some form of boot code, plus critical OS code to make the application launch and function.

The key question is do ANY US cable outfits allows ALL the code necessary to do this to be downloaded. Keep in mind that this NOT necessarily just downloading Craptigator to a formerly Passport box (although that hasn't happened yet here, it sure as hell is in our future).

Is it a well established fact that code CAN be added to a HDD that will preclude a range of things one may do with a HDD (Compaq used to do this... there was a time you could ONLY get a HDD from them because they had a piece of boot code that only THEY could add to the drive, but nobody else could).

Like I said, this is only an educated guess, but I suspect a good one. I would LOVE IT if someone could disprove my guess!

...the hard drive on my 8300HD box is starting to act up..... I don't want to have to get it replaced yet!That stinks. What do you mean by “acting up?”

I think I’ve exchanged my boxes about 6 times since the DVR first came out. I’ve lost count.:rolleyes:

I’m experiencing my longest run with my two working boxes.

I attribute the longevity to these reasons:
-Set the turn on channel to a non buffering channel such as the On Demand movie channel. This keeps the box quiet when not in use and saves wear and tear on the hard drive.
-Watch, delete and don’t have more scheduled recordings than space available.
-Reboot three times a month to keep things fresh.
-Keep the air circulating around the components—no heat build up.

That stinks. What do you mean by “acting up?”

I think I’ve exchanged my boxes about 6 times since the DVR first came out. I’ve lost count.:rolleyes:

I’m experiencing my longest run with my two working boxes.

I attribute the longevity to these reasons:
-Set the turn on channel to a non buffering channel such as the On Demand movie channel. This keeps the box quiet when not in use and saves wear and tear on the hard drive.
-Watch, delete and don’t have more scheduled recordings than space available.
-Reboot three times a month to keep things fresh.
-Keep the air circulating around the components—no heat build up.

I've had this box for over 2 1/2 years (my first and only HD box when I got my HDTV)...

Last night, the hard drive started 'skipping'... I'm watching a show, and it would freeze for a few seconds, and you could here the drive 'clicking' during that time....

Obviously the sort of thing that can happen to a hard drive over time..... that gets used extensively...:rolleyes:

Personally I think the "you give some residents MORE HD channels AND charge them LESS than the residents who do NOT get those additional channels" is an even better indictment. THIS is the kind of harm to it's citizens that the DOITT is SUPPOSED to be watch dogging. THIS is where they should listen, this is the kind of action that SHOULD get TWC's license not renewed.

The thing is, I don't agree with the whole boo-hoo, Queens and SI get more channels. We got crap channels, do you really think LMN HD is worth watching? I'd rather get CNN HD. Cablevision has so many HD channels, when we barely have anything with good content. All around, Cablevision carries better content, and quality for that matter.

Look how much they have, with basically the same bandwidth:

http://www.optimum.com/io/hdtv/hdtv_channels.jsp

It's also at no additonal cost.

I rest my case.

....the drive 'clicking' .... I know diddly about Hard Drives but I do know that clicking is bad… good luck.

boo-hoo...


I rest my case.From what I’ve read their picture quality is less than ours. I’ll take better picture quality any day over the amount of channels.

And.... we have some that they don’t. I think HDNet Movies is one example. And as far as the old “Voom” channels… they’re no big deal.

We’ll get CNN HD eventually. Personally, :rolleyes: I think that channel is unimportant—if I watch CNNSD now-- the picture is stretched along with the news. With HD, the news will still be stretched.;):p:D

If you guys had the option of directv, would you switch? I live in a brownstone in Brooklyn and can put a dish on my roof. How does the quality compare to Time Warner, and how are the DVR options?
Thanks,
Jason


Ive wondered the same thing about the quality.Any input?

For the longest time, I thought it better to up the capacity of the internal drive before adding an external.

From all that I have read, it seems the ONLY folks who HAVE done that (to a SA 8300HD) are folks in Canada. Using some educated guessing, it seems the issue is that once you replace the internal drive, there are "things" that need to be done to make it functional. Amou/RTOSng them would be some form of boot code, plus critical OS code to make the application launch and function.

The key question is do ANY US cable outfits allows ALL the code necessary to do this to be downloaded. Keep in mind that this NOT necessarily just downloading Craptigator to a formerly Passport box (although that hasn't happened yet here, it sure as hell is in our future).

Is it a well established fact that code CAN be added to a HDD that will preclude a range of things one may do with a HDD (Compaq used to do this... there was a time you could ONLY get a HDD from them because they had a piece of boot code that only THEY could add to the drive, but nobody else could).

Like I said, this is only an educated guess, but I suspect a good one. I would LOVE IT if someone could disprove my guess!

OTOH, I've been told that it's actually not all that involved. Allegedly, the DVR has a BIOS chip that senses a new drive and initializes it accordingly. That's certainly the way I'd design something like this.

A_C

The thing is, I don't agree with the whole boo-hoo, Queens and SI get more channels. We got crap channels, do you really think LMN HD is worth watching? I'd rather get CNN HD. Cablevision has so many HD channels, when we barely have anything with good content. All around, Cablevision carries better content, and quality for that matter.

Look how much they have, with basically the same bandwidth:

http://www.optimum.com/io/hdtv/hdtv_channels.jsp

It's also at no additonal cost.

I rest my case.


Dude... Cablevision's HD quality is REALLY bad..... they stuff up to FOUR HD channels in 1 QAM slot (we already see a quality drop on our systems with most channels being stuffed by 3's)

THAT's how they have so many HD channels.... (and I wouldn't brag about Voom....)

I know diddly about Hard Drives but I do know that clicking is bad… good luck.

It's not rocket science.... If you hear odd noises for the first time in over 2 years..... its doing something that its not supposed to be doing...

Has anyone in the Queens area been able to watch NHL HD 795 or do they just get the call the stupid people at 358-0900 screen. Since they rolled out the new channels in queens this is the screen I get when you turn to 795 not that there is much on the channel.
So I decided to call the idiots at time warner today, first off the stupid cs rep was not aware of the stations and said 795 does not exist then after about 7 min on hold she said the way time warner is set up if they put nhl hd 795 on for me ( a channel that i am paying for with the hd tier) they would have to take away 5 of the channels we recd in december (food, a&E,MHD,HGTV and Vs. I was so frustrated I told her I cant wait for her and other TW people to be unemployed when fios rolls in. I am glad TW stock is doing so crappy and is getting worse!! I guess I will look through the earlier posts again to find that address so I could write another complaint about tw.

I hope fios comes soon or direct tv sets up like sat radio so you could get reception without a dish.

Die TW Die!!!!

I just found this thread and figured I'd contribute

The 8300HDC is the worst cable box ever created. I had mine replaced three times. Each time meant I had to go to Time Warner's one and only store in Staten Island, and sit on a DMV style line for an hour. So incredibly frustrating.

The final time I went, I told them I want the 8300HD (not the one with the C on the end). The lady looked through a stack of 8300HDC, and by the grace of God found me the last one in the store.

My cable has been perfect ever since. No problems at all.

That being said, I would still trade it in a heart beat for FIOS TV. TW's monopoly needs to end.

Well-no 8300HD at Bdwy & 219th, either!! The rep did go back and spent some time looking for one, but no dice. At least the 8300HDC I got there-fresh in the box-works (so far,at least!!):o I still greatly prefer the 8300HD OS!!!

The same at 23st no 8300hd. he looked all over but no luck.Was told no more 8300hd. any time soon , maybe never:(

I emailed TWC..."we have plans in the very near future to launch more HD channels"

Well the futrue is now and HDMI is he way to go unfortunayely it isn't with out it's flaws.
Plus on top of HDMI being HDMI you might have to check if Any of your components support HDMI 1.3 While the STB's do not support HDMI 1.3 Some Blu-ray and HD DVD players do as well as some TV's and the PS3. Whyn is this improtant? you may be asking. Becasue they 1.3 handles the color and speed transfer better then the HDMI 1.2, If your TV is not abale to support HDMI 1.3 then forget I mentioned this paragraph..
So just like me and berk we have component and HDMI connected. It is safer to have them both.



So i got the 8300hdc installed this morning, only had time use it for about 10 minutes before i went to work. Have it hooked up to an onkyo reciever via hdmi. Didnt seem to run very smooth but whatever, ill mess it around with it tonite. But the major thing i noticed is when you change channels i'd get about 2-3 seconds of blue screen and my tv saying "no signal" before the channel comes up. According to what ive read this is because you cant set the hdc to 1 resolution right? So as long as im using hdmi im gonna get a 2 or 3 second "no signal" before the channel comes up right? And if I use component cables you can set it to say 720p for everything and I wont get any "no signal" delays when I change channels?

THis is all very new to me....and very confusing!! And are all standard channels gonna have bars around them? Or is there some kind of setting i can change on the tv to fill up the screen? Thanx!!!

I know diddly about Hard Drives but I do know that clicking is bad… good luck.

How much diddly do you know? Are you the diddly guru?:cool:

So i got the 8300hdc installed this morning, only had time use it for about 10 minutes before i went to work. Have it hooked up to an onkyo reciever via hdmi. Didnt seem to run very smooth but whatever, ill mess it around with it tonite. But the major thing i noticed is when you change channels i'd get about 2-3 seconds of blue screen and my tv saying "no signal" before the channel comes up. According to what ive read this is because you cant set the hdc to 1 resolution right? So as long as im using hdmi im gonna get a 2 or 3 second "no signal" before the channel comes up right? And if I use component cables you can set it to say 720p for everything and I wont get any "no signal" delays when I change channels?

There's a trick you can use to set the resolution when using an HDMI cable, but it's a pain. First turn everything off, disconnect the HDMI cable, and temporarily hook up the TV using component or some other method. (I'm not sure if it will work with coax, but that would be the easiest, especially if the TV and cable box are far apart.)

Now turn everything on, go into Settings > Video > Output Resolution and set it how you want. Then turn everything off and disconnect the temporary cable.

Here's the trick to making it stick: you need to turn on the cable box first, with the HDMI cable unplugged. Watch the display. As soon as you see the resolution indicator switch to 720, you can then plug the HDMI cable back in. If you ever turn the cable box off, you'll have to unplug the HDMI cable before turning it back on. (Turning the TV on & off won't affect anything.)

OT (slightly) Question:

I have a friend who wants to connect the cable directly to her bedroom TV (no cable box - analog TV). What channels does TWNYC still make available as analog? Anybody know.

Thanks in advance,

-barry

OT (slightly) Question:

I have a friend who wants to connect the cable directly to her bedroom TV (no cable box - analog TV). What channels does TWNYC still make available as analog? Anybody know.

Thanks in advance,

-barry

I've made a full list of everything I could find that TWC-Manhattan sends out...

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12486299#post12486299

I last updated a month ago... so it's possible some analog may have changed slightly....

(Analog channels are mostly up top... you could also just filter the 2nd column)

Hi guys. I'm joining in the TWC discussion.

I live in Flushing, Queens, and have a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300 HD.

The HD-DVR I had prior was extremely slow, and often, On Demand channels wouldn't load at all. A few months later, my hard drive crashed, and TWC came over to replace my old one with an 8300 HD. It's much, much faster, I've had zero problems with it, it asks me for "confirmation" before deleting a program, and also gives me the ability search for programs by title.

Replacing my DVR with the newer model was also the first time I realized that TWC eventually gets new models of cable boxes in, which often are faster and feature new technologies, and it'd be prudent for me to stay on top of these things to stay up to date.

From what I've read, the latest "upgrade", the 8300 HDC, is a piece of crap, so I won't be asking TWC to replace my box anytime soon.

How much diddly do you know? Are you the diddly guru?:cool:You have a PM.

Hi guys. I'm joining in the TWC discussion.

I live in Flushing, Queens, and have a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300 HD.

The HD-DVR I had prior was extremely slow, and often, On Demand channels wouldn't load at all. A few months later, my hard drive crashed, and TWC came over to replace my old one with an 8300 HD. It's much, much faster, I've had zero problems with it, it asks me for "confirmation" before deleting a program, and also gives me the ability search for programs by title.

Replacing my DVR with the newer model was also the first time I realized that TWC eventually gets new models of cable boxes in, which often are faster and feature new technologies, and it'd be prudent for me to stay on top of these things to stay up to date.

From what I've read, the latest "upgrade", the 8300 HDC, is a piece of crap, so I won't be asking TWC to replace my box anytime soon.Welcome to the Thread neighbor…


Your thoughts represent the consensus here and in other parts of the country regarding the HDC at this time.

There's a trick you can use to set the resolution when using an HDMI cable, but it's a pain. First turn everything off, disconnect the HDMI cable, and temporarily hook up the TV using component or some other method. (I'm not sure if it will work with coax, but that would be the easiest, especially if the TV and cable box are far apart.)

Now turn everything on, go into Settings > Video > Output Resolution and set it how you want. Then turn everything off and disconnect the temporary cable.

Here's the trick to making it stick: you need to turn on the cable box first, with the HDMI cable unplugged. Watch the display. As soon as you see the resolution indicator switch to 720, you can then plug the HDMI cable back in. If you ever turn the cable box off, you'll have to unplug the HDMI cable before turning it back on. (Turning the TV on & off won't affect anything.)



Thanks for the tip, but I just went with a component hook up, theres too many glitches with hdmi and this box. Not only with setting the resolution, but Id get this annoying static at the top of the screen when watching some standard channels. Also if im watching a high def channel and hit guide, then hit guide again, the picture will stay in the small box in the upper right hand corner. This thing is just a mess with hdmi, im sure id find more problems with it if I continued using it for more than an hour. Havent had any issues with component, everything looks good and is running smoothly. Of course I havent tried recording anything yet, Im sure that will be fun.....not!!!

OTOH, I've been told that it's actually not all that involved. Allegedly, the DVR has a BIOS chip that senses a new drive and initializes it accordingly. That's certainly the way I'd design something like this.

A_C

Until I hear at least 2 people who are regulars around here (Scott, Larry, Nutty, Berk, a few others) say they have successfully replaced the internal drive, I have to go by my educated guess.

As for "design" I would have to say that FROM their side, better to design it NOT to happen (a customer replacing the internal drive).

Like I said, I'd jump for joy if the method you speculate on is true!

I emailed TWC..."we have plans in the very near future to launch more HD channels"

That would be mid 2008 in SI and some areas in Queens, 2011 or 2012 for Manhattan.

Thanks for the tip, but I just went with a component hook up, theres too many glitches with hdmi and this box. Not only with setting the resolution, but Id get this annoying static at the top of the screen when watching some standard channels. Also if im watching a high def channel and hit guide, then hit guide again, the picture will stay in the small box in the upper right hand corner. This thing is just a mess with hdmi, im sure id find more problems with it if I continued using it for more than an hour. Havent had any issues with component, everything looks good and is running smoothly. Of course I havent tried recording anything yet, Im sure that will be fun.....not!!!

Heh, I have that problem sometimes too, with the picture staying in the corner after you leave the guide. Sometimes it also flashes madly when you hit the guide button, with the blue screen appearing & disappearing. I happen to have good picture quality though. (Although I'm still convinced that my old 8300HD and 5-year-old Sharp 30" LCD give much better combined picture quality than my new 4250HDC and brand new Sharp 32" LCD.)

The biggest reason I need to stick with HDMI is that my TV is hanging on a brick wall with the neighbors behind it, which means the cables all need to be in a surface-mount raceway, and the HDMI cable is much smaller than the 5-coax bundle. I read an excellent article though, on the design flaws in HDMI:

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/whats-the-matter-with-hdmi.htm

I have to say though, there is one thing I really don't understand. If the single RJ59 cable can carry all of your SD & HD channels plus your cable modem bandwidth in from the outside, why can't it also carry the one HD channel you're watching from your cable box to your TV? Why is it necessary to break out the video/audio signals at the cable box? I understand that the cable box is decrypting the channels according to what you've paid for, and adding the guide and other features... but if everyone could agree on an encoding standard, couldn't the cable box just re-encode the audio & video onto a single stream that goes over an RJ59 cable, and have the TV get it with the exact same quality?

I have a friend who wants to connect the cable directly to her bedroom TV (no cable box - analog TV). What channels does TWNYC still make available as analog? Anybody know.

My last count was about that of twcinsider's mid-year '07 estimate (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11148470&&#post11148470) : 75. But Berk32's more-recent Excel spreadsheet (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=96603&d=1197609415) of channels/frequencies shows ~80 analogs, with ~40 scrambled (needing STB). As discussed earlier here, we'd have space for more HD--2-3 HDs/6-MHz analog slot-- if they'd dump most of those ASAP, as Staten Island did. -- John

Well-no 8300HD at Bdwy & 219th, either!! The rep did go back and spent some time looking for one, but no dice. At least the 8300HDC I got there-fresh in the box-works (so far,at least!!):o I still greatly prefer the 8300HD OS!!!
Where the other one just out of the box also? Was the box sealed? Because this is very important. If they are just sitting behind the rep they are used or there is a good chance nobody palyed with the controls. Which could be a fantastic indicator for those of us that have to change our boxes. I wish nothing but the best for you and your new box.

Comcast will offer more than 1,000 high-definition choices by the end of 2008, Comcast CEO Brian Roberts said during his keynote address Tuesday morning at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

The cable operator is rolling out a new system architecture called Project Infinity that will increase the amount of video-on-demand Comcast can offer.

“This will let us offer over 6,000 movies on-demand, more than 3,000 in HD,” Mr. Roberts said. “This new architecture paves the way for our ultimate visions of what on-demand can be. Project Infinity is the content-hungry consumers’ dream. … You are never going to want to get off the couch.”
- TV Week
This is only good news for people that want to pay for on-demand items. Our bills and theirs F it all cable bills are already extremmly high. On-demand works for the lazy but those of us that what newer releases already use a blockbuster or netflix plan.

This is just more predictions from puffed chest CEO's that want to make there system sound better. But not one company has met it's predictions. Even Direct TV, with the most HD available on the market came up short.

Why you guys keep posting other companies predicted totals amazes me. It isn't like we have the option to get them. All it does is infuriate mt pals on this friendly thread. We don't need to know what the other company WILL be able to do, just what they have available now. Last time I checkd they have the same ammounts as SI and Northern Queens.

Everyone going to the meetings should say that TWC should get it's franchise totally revoked in all 5 boroughs, to be replaced by FiOS or Cablevision. which both have better TV choices.
It won't be revoked, Sorry, But the idea of everyone attending is to make sure the DIott commitee knows of our issues with TWC and know that we feel changes need to be made before they sign their agreement. While some have written the Diott regulary, the meetins are the place to really get your voice heard.

This is our time, it is now or never because this is a 15 year agreement
The biggest complaint should be the fact that our fees have far exceeded the price of inflation. Everything goes up we all know that but why 5% to 15% a year. They are increasing their profit margin in the disgusie of claiming it is because of the extra cxhannels they offer.

Hey Guys,
After exiting the guide on my 8300HDC, pic stays small and in the corner...pressing PIP on-off twice makes it full screen again. Anybody have this seemingly chronic issue?
I have the reg 8300 hd and this does happen to me, very rearely, Not enoght to be a problem. Just like sometimes I start up and get no picture or no sound. All these are minor problems that are fixed with a change of channel a press of a buttom. Something that isn't exactly putting us out of your way. Something simple like this you should be thankful of because there are people out there missing shows or recording thigs that aren't scheduled. Now these are problems!!

Where the other one just out of the box also? Was the box sealed? Because this is very important. If they are just sitting behind the rep they are used or there is a good chance nobody palyed with the controls. Which could be a fantastic indicator for those of us that have to change our boxes. I wish nothing but the best for you and your new box.

The 8300HDC handed to me at 23rd street out of box-just an open unit. When I got it home, I didn't even have to remove the plastic film that protected the readout-I checked the date on the bottom of the unit and it was from August-making me think it was a return, and since it was defective-a defective return at that. Really pissed me off! I then went up to 219th street-the unit I got there was sealed in the box-a November date-with all packaging intact and with power and component cables in box (no remote-but I already had the new one and they are given out separately, anyway). I am sure this one is a new unit, and it has performed accordingly.

Hi guys. I'm joining in the TWC discussion.

I live in Flushing, Queens, and have a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300 HD.

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Welcome to the thread. Wise choice your box works , do not change it. Even if you have little issues like I mentioned above you should stay strong and keep your box no matter what. Wait until you hear on this tyhread that TWC starts sending out the Samsung boxes.

Where in Fllushinbg? Am I suppose to dislike you ;)because you are in the extra HD area. I heard some small parts of Flushing might have them.

Yeah, I've had 2 hard drives die over the past few years on my 8300HD. In lieu of all the problems with the C series boxes, if it happens again, I'll really consider opening up the unit and taking a shot at replacing the drive myself.

Anyone had any experience doing this? :D

A_C
Is it worth the chance at paying the extra $150 - $250 if you don't get it fix, you get the new one anyway and they see the box has been tappered with, Then what? This just might open a can of worms you do not want to open. Just trying to give you a Con against opening the box. The agreement clarely state the fee for missing or tampered boxes of course you need a magnifying glass to read it.

I have to say though, there is one thing I really don't understand. If the single RJ59 cable can carry all of your SD & HD channels plus your cable modem bandwidth in from the outside, why can't it also carry the one HD channel you're watching from your cable box to your TV? Why is it necessary to break out the video/audio signals at the cable box?
Coaxial cable is meant for the RF frequencies (see Berk32's Excel spreadsheet (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=96603&d=1197609415)) of NYC TWC's 860+ MHz-wide system. The RF is at millivolt levels. Tuning a station results in analog voltages (~0.75V) from YPbPr component outputs. While component cables are used by most for STB-display hookup, some do craft three component video cables from RF coax. Of course, without RF-tuning/conversion with a STB, you'd need a tuner in your display to select channels. Higher RF frequencies can carry much more information than lower-frequency analog component voltages.

I understand that the cable box is decrypting the channels according to what you've paid for, and adding the guide and other features... but if everyone could agree on an encoding standard, couldn't the cable box just re-encode the audio & video onto a single stream that goes over an RJ59 cable, and have the TV get it with the exact same quality?
HDMI, a digital coding scheme developed to reduce video theft, can put digitized audio-video on one multiple-wire HDMI or DVI cable, another goal of the format. Suspect a similar system could be designed to pipe the tuned channel, both audio and video, through coax's single-wire core. That may well exist for special hookups. -- John

The 8300HDC handed to me at 23rd street out of box-just an open unit. When I got it home, I didn't even have to remove the plastic film that protected the readout-I checked the date on the bottom of the unit and it was from August-making me think it was a return, and since it was defective-a defective return at that. Really pissed me off! I then went up to 219th street-the unit I got there was sealed in the box-a November date-with all packaging intact and with power and component cables in box (no remote-but I already had the new one and they are given out separately, anyway). I am sure this one is a new unit, and it has performed accordingly.
It doesn't get anynewer then that. You my friend my be the one that gives us hope for the 8399HDC. Let us know what OS numbers you are running, maybe TWC has the update isnstalled in your box already but has yet to update the existing boxes though the server.
Yeah it is amazing that the remote is sold seperatedly from the STB. SA screws us with this little trick because now TWC has reason to charge us a fee. If it is an All-in-one like every other electronic item we own, even car radios come with remotes. Maybe TWC would not be allowed to charge us that Extra 80-90 cents per month.

The thing is, I don't agree with the whole boo-hoo, Queens and SI get more channels. We got crap channels, do you really think LMN HD is worth watching? I'd rather get CNN HD. Cablevision has so many HD channels, when we barely have anything with good content. All around, Cablevision carries better content, and quality for that matter.

Look how much they have, with basically the same bandwidth:

http://www.optimum.com/io/hdtv/hdtv_channels.jsp

It's also at no additonal cost.

I rest my case.

Seamus you can't compare Cablevision HD offerings accurately by going with their total channels offered. Cablevision has a sercret weapon that is not available to TWC, FIOS or Direct TV all of which are companies some of us will/can get. They have VOOM, which is a Dolan venture but is not offered (last I checked to anybody else ever since cablevission lokced up it's rights. Without VOOM Cablevision is running the same crap that all companies in this areq Comcast, FIOS and TWC are running(22-34 HD channels). While I get 25 channels which is the same as Cable vision pre-VOOM. You have 34 channels in Woodisde( a few less in SI, While that may be 9 short of Cablevision, It is still a very good amount of channels that are available at this time for all cable companies. Plus, it has been reported just like LL3HD said, TWC has better HD quality then Cablevision.
While I understand wanting channels you watch, but if you are only complaining about one channel when you got 9+ chabnnels I think you should just enjoy what you have and wait for the rest like the remainder of the city is waiting for any extra channel to get us closer to 30 options.
I read the bottom qand it sounded like I was being sarcastic, I wasn't I just type with passion when it is something I believe. I am just ltrying to let you know that Cablevision would not be the answer.

Has anyone in the Queens area been able to watch NHL HD 795 or do they just get the call the stupid people at 358-0900 screen. Since they rolled out the new channels in queens this is the screen I get when you turn to 795 not that there is much on the channel.
So I decided to call the idiots at time warner today, first off the stupid cs rep was not aware of the stations and said 795 does not exist then after about 7 min on hold she said the way time warner is set up if they put nhl hd 795 on for me ( a channel that i am paying for with the hd tier) they would have to take away 5 of the channels we recd in december (food, a&E,MHD,HGTV and Vs. I was so frustrated I told her I cant wait for her and other TW people to be unemployed when fios rolls in. I am glad TW stock is doing so crappy and is getting worse!! I guess I will look through the earlier posts again to find that address so I could write another complaint about tw.

I hope fios comes soon or direct tv sets up like sat radio so you could get reception without a dish.

Die TW Die!!!!
Quick Question, while NHLHD is new it is a premium. Do you have HDxtra? If you do it should be activated. Another thing, Is this a new box in your house or the same existing one? I ask this because if it is a new box everything will act wierd for a day up to 2 weeks. EX: All premiums might ber availoable, discovery HD might have that stupid warning. That will fix itself if that was the problem.
Oh yeah did I mention I don't like you, LOL! I am in Queens also, all I got is NGHD, not that this is a bad thing. Top shows so far and by the way WILL not be effected by the strike.

How It was?
Critical Situation
The filnal reprt

All three very informative and entertaining shows.

So i got the 8300hdc installed this morning, only had time use it for about 10 minutes before i went to work. Have it hooked up to an onkyo reciever via hdmi. Didnt seem to run very smooth but whatever, ill mess it around with it tonite. But the major thing i noticed is when you change channels i'd get about 2-3 seconds of blue screen and my tv saying "no signal" before the channel comes up. According to what ive read this is because you cant set the hdc to 1 resolution right? So as long as im using hdmi im gonna get a 2 or 3 second "no signal" before the channel comes up right? And if I use component cables you can set it to say 720p for everything and I wont get any "no signal" delays when I change channels?

THis is all very new to me....and very confusing!! And are all standard channels gonna have bars around them? Or is there some kind of setting i can change on the tv to fill up the screen? Thanx!!!
If you use HDSMI and have multiple screen res selected you will always have the 1-3 second delay, You get a blue sceen others gets a distorted picture. It varries, but in my opinion at least you know when you are changing from differenty res channels and it is actually doing the change. When I had everything set for 1080i there were times I didn't notice the stretching or widening of the program because the TV or box didn't change the res. Most time you notice right away but itcan be a pain to make sure it does change to the proper res.

You have a PM.
come on Larry you couldn't share your diddizums with all!!!!

That would be mid 2008 in SI and some areas in Queens, 2011 or 2012 for Manhattan.
Come on River such negativity, I know where you stand but mid 2008, I predict 1st quarter for a channel revamp which will include an HD surprise for all, Even you City guys!! Or at the min the ones that only got NGHD as a teaser get sone of the exisying TWC NYC channels, It is just a matter of which channel of the 9 TWC you want. I started watching NG last year and have loved NGHD ever since it premiered, but I would like a true music channel and from what I hear it is all music, no reality fluff.

come on Larry you couldn't share your diddizums with all!!!!:D:D:D You are too funny Nutty... My diddlizums... are not too interesting... way off topic to post here... even for me...:)

You see what happens when I miss a few days I start writing like crazy. I almost wrote a full page in responses. And I only wenty back one page!

:D:D:D You are too funny Nutty... My diddlizums... are not too interesting... way off topic to post here... even for me...:)
OK you are fordiven!! Let's leave this site Diddizum Free

Has anyone in the Queens area been able to watch NHL HD 795 or do they just get the call the stupid people at 358-0900 screen. Since they rolled out the new channels in queens this is the screen I get when you turn to 795 not that there is much on the channel.
So I decided to call the idiots at time warner today, first off the stupid cs rep was not aware of the stations and said 795 does not exist then after about 7 min on hold she said the way time warner is set up if they put nhl hd 795 on for me ( a channel that i am paying for with the hd tier) they would have to take away 5 of the channels we recd in december (food, a&E,MHD,HGTV and Vs. I was so frustrated I told her I cant wait for her and other TW people to be unemployed when fios rolls in. I am glad TW stock is doing so crappy and is getting worse!! I guess I will look through the earlier posts again to find that address so I could write another complaint about tw.

I hope fios comes soon or direct tv sets up like sat radio so you could get reception without a dish.

Die TW Die!!!!

This is why I switched out my 8300HD for the 8300HDC. The NHLHD channel on 795 did not work. I had a total of 8 phone calls in regards to this and multiple signals sent to the box and even some operators stating I am not subscribed to the Sports Tier when in fact I was since I pay for HDXtra.

For a kicker, one operator who challenged me in regards to me not paying for the Sports Package said I could add NHLHD for an extra $2.95 or something like that. I said fine, give me the channel. When she tried to give it to me, it came up with an error on her screen and she was told that I was right and she was stumped as to why 795 is not working.

The problem here is really with the staff in the Flushing office that receives our phone calls. Since some parts of Flushing did not get the "Woodside" channels, they do not have 795 on their screen and would not even tell me when I asked two times.

How can you service a channel that you cannot see but I can?

I am in the same boat and love the NHL Network, but until someone in their tech division gets a clue that this channel is supposed to be on, we will be stuck probably until wide release through all of Queens.

This is why I switched out my 8300HD for the 8300HDC. The NHLHD channel on 795 did not work. I had a total of 8 phone calls in regards to this and multiple signals sent to the box and even some operators stating I am not subscribed to the Sports Tier when in fact I was since I pay for HDXtra.

For a kicker, one operator who challenged me in regards to me not paying for the Sports Package said I could add NHLHD for an extra $2.95 or something like that. I said fine, give me the channel. When she tried to give it to me, it came up with an error on her screen and she was told that I was right and she was stumped as to why 795 is not working.

The problem here is really with the staff in the Flushing office that receives our phone calls. Since some parts of Flushing did not get the "Woodside" channels, they do not have 795 on their screen and would not even tell me when I asked two times.

How can you service a channel that you cannot see but I can?

I am in the same boat and love the NHL Network, but until someone in their tech division gets a clue that this channel is supposed to be on, we will be stuck probably until wide release through all of Queens.
Tony I didn't know you lived in THATpart of queens, I don't think we can talk anymore, Who am I kidding, I can't stay angry at anyone. If NHL net HD is your only issue when they do a change you should be happy. You have been around long enough that major channel additions or changes have not gone down so easily.

It is really sad that we customers know more then the CSR's While there are some that keep up to date with the info and technology. The majority of them do not and this leads to unsatisfied subscribers.

this is EXACTLY one of the topics that needs to be brought up at these meetings.

Tony I didn't know you lived in THATpart of queens, I don't think we can talk anymore, Who am I kidding, I can't stay angry at anyone. If NHL net HD is your only issue when they do a change you should be happy. You have been around long enough that major channel additions or changes have not gone down so easily.

It is really sad that we customers know more then the CSR's While there are some that keep up to date with the info and technology. The majority of them do not and this leads to unsatisfied subscribers.

this is EXACTLY one of the topics that needs to be brought up at these meetings.

Haha :) Thanks for the chuckle at work.

I pretty much given up on NHLHD, but when I saw vindicator's post, I swear I was like "YES! It is not just me only!!" :D So now, I can check myself out of the mental ward.

I will be going to the LAGCC meeting right after work. I really hope there is a good turnout for it as I am interested in hearing the opinions of my fellow Queens residents.

I can always wait out technical issues, but when TWC's own staff is not up to date on current events of their product, you can just see how the fire of customers grows.

Here is to a hopefully successful 2008 for the HDTV lovers out there.

Haha :) Thanks for the chuckle at work.

I pretty much given up on NHLHD, but when I saw vindicator's post, I swear I was like "YES! It is not just me only!!" :D So now, I can check myself out of the mental ward.

I will be going to the LAGCC meeting right after work. I really hope there is a good turnout for it as I am interested in hearing the opinions of my fellow Queens residents.

I can always wait out technical issues, but when TWC's own staff is not up to date on current events of their product, you can just see how the fire of customers grows.

Here is to a hopefully successful 2008 for the HDTV lovers out there.
You're welcome!! I love to makepeople laugh. I am glad to see you are out and about again, How was your stay at the Happy Farm?
I don't understand why they wouldn't know about the channel changes. that should be the first thing they know about right after the fees. They never forget those and they just changed a month ago. I give them a pass on the sports tier isue, they should know but how would they know that if you have HDXtra the sprots tier is free. Thoise are 2 different topics and are on 2 different pages on their computers.
I can't believe you gave the technical issue the bye. This is a technical issue. It is their computer programmers that need to make their computers more user friendly. They type a question and an answer pops up. but that can lead to four more pags. Once they simplify their computers CSR will be more upo to date and ready to assist us at a moments notice not after a few calls like it takes now.

You're welcome!! I love to makepeople laugh. I am glad to see you are out and about again, How was your stay at the Happy Farm?
I don't understand why they wouldn't know about the channel changes. that should be the first thing they know about right after the fees. They never forget those and they just changed a month ago. I give them a pass on the sports tier isue, they should know but how would they know that if you have HDXtra the sprots tier is free. Thoise are 2 different topics and are on 2 different pages on their computers.
I can't believe you gave the technical issue the bye. This is a technical issue. It is their computer programmers that need to make their computers more user friendly. They type a question and an answer pops up. but that can lead to four more pags. Once they simplify their computers CSR will be more upo to date and ready to assist us at a moments notice not after a few calls like it takes now.

The Happy Farm was happy until the stringbeans for dinner night and that got me a stay in the padded room. :eek:

I think I gave this technical issue the pass for now just because of the 8 phone calls. I got tired and then lost a good box out of the deal too. When I am up to hammering their busy phone lines again, I will see what the CSR tells me.

I do remember 1 out of the 8 CSR's actually saw on their screen that 795 was supposed to be the NFL in HD, but last I read, TWC did not have a contract in place for that. I was just too tired of the many MANY different answers and needed a break.

I think Dr. Peter Venkman had the right line in the movie Ghostbuster. "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!!"

The Happy Farm was happy until the stringbeans for dinner night and that got me a stay in the padded room. :eek:

I think I gave this technical issue the pass for now just because of the 8 phone calls. I got tired and then lost a good box out of the deal too. When I am up to hammering their busy phone lines again, I will see what the CSR tells me.

I do remember 1 out of the 8 CSR's actually saw on their screen that 795 was supposed to be the NFL in HD, but last I read, TWC did not have a contract in place for that. I was just too tired of the many MANY different answers and needed a break.

I think Dr. Peter Venkman had the right line in the movie Ghostbuster. "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!!"
check the website it does say NFLHD on it. This is what they are seeing also. I figure out it was NHL HD when I saw that it was mmissing from the lineup, get thisit was their updated lineup.They must have the worse web techs in business.
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Wow a quote from Ghostbuster's. Maybe you cut that stay too short.

check the website it does say NFLHD on it. This is what they are seeing also. I figure out it was NHL HD when I saw that it was mmissing from the lineup, get thisit was their updated lineup.They must have the worse web techs in business.
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Wow a quote from Ghostbuster's. Maybe you cut that stay too short.

:D

Yeah. That was what they were saying, but on the channel itself it displays NHLHD. Go figure.

As long as I have the SD version of the channel, I will be ok in the hopes that when the channels for the rest of Queens goes live, customers can all call in and complain at what me and vindicator are seeing.

Hey Guys and Gals,

Haven't posted in here for ages, but I have a question. I live on the upper west side and my wife and I are switching from RCN. However, I'm not so sure about TWC either. I live in an apartment building and I'm pretty sure most, if not all, folks in the building have either RCN or TWC. Is there another choice available to me? Can I set up dish network or something that has more HD channels? I feel like I live in the media center of the world and have less access to HD than anywhere else in the country!

Thanks so much!

Cheers,

Jason

Hey Guys and Gals,

Haven't posted in here for ages, but I have a question. I live on the upper west side and my wife and I are switching from RCN. However, I'm not so sure about TWC either. I live in an apartment building and I'm pretty sure most, if not all, folks in the building have either RCN or TWC. Is there another choice available to me? Can I set up dish network or something that has more HD channels? I feel like I live in the media center of the world and have less access to HD than anywhere else in the country!

Thanks so much!

Cheers,

Jason

TWC is definitely a better choice than RCN for HD...

As for Dish or DirecTV? that depends on what your building allows... and if you have the view of the southern sky....

My windows all face north... and there's no way my building would allow me to put up a dish...

Any other options? Well Verizon FiOS should be available.... eventually.... that's the one we're all waiting for...

Thanks! What's the current timeframe for Fios?

Yeah - there's probably no way my building would allow it either. I do have plenty of southern windows, but we have an old stodgy board. They really don't care about modern conveniences since they were all born sometime during the industrial revolution. Now if we could get an HD service that ran on steam power we'd really have something!

Cheers,

Jason

My last count was about that of twcinsider's mid-year '07 estimate (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11148470&&#post11148470) : 75. But Berk32's more-recent Excel spreadsheet (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=96603&d=1197609415) of channels/frequencies shows ~80 analogs, with ~40 scrambled (needing STB). As discussed earlier here, we'd have space for more HD--2-3 HDs/6-MHz analog slot-- if they'd dump most of those ASAP, as Staten Island did. -- John

Thanks. This was really useful. The spreadsheet is just what I needed.

-barry

My last count was about that of twcinsider's mid-year '07 estimate (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11148470&&#post11148470) : 75. But Berk32's more-recent Excel spreadsheet (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=96603&d=1197609415) of channels/frequencies shows ~80 analogs, with ~40 scrambled (needing STB). As discussed earlier here, we'd have space for more HD--2-3 HDs/6-MHz analog slot-- if they'd dump most of those ASAP, as Staten Island did. -- John

John, notice he said without a cable box?

What one gets is the following channels that are not scrambled: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13. 3 is TNT, 6 is C-SPAN. The rest are the "local" channels.

Come on River such negativity, I know where you stand but mid 2008, I predict 1st quarter for a channel revamp which will include an HD surprise for all, Even you City guys!! Or at the min the ones that only got NGHD as a teaser get sone of the exisying TWC NYC channels, It is just a matter of which channel of the 9 TWC you want. I started watching NG last year and have loved NGHD ever since it premiered, but I would like a true music channel and from what I hear it is all music, no reality fluff.

At least we agree on NG HD... a fabulous channel.

BUT, ponder this... last fall TWC dropped 4 analogs which occupied the bandwidth of 10-12 HD channels. So we got exactly 2. So looking at ALL of 2007, technically we got 4 new HD channels. Sort of. 2 came at mid-year and it took 2 months for them to make the other channels watchable. 2 of the "4" came at the end of the year. Based on such a track record, I stand by my clearly pessimistic estimate.

TWC is definitely a better choice than RCN for HD...

As for Dish or DirecTV? that depends on what your building allows... and if you have the view of the southern sky....

My windows all face north... and there's no way my building would allow me to put up a dish...

Any other options? Well Verizon FiOS should be available.... eventually.... that's the one we're all waiting for...

I was told the Direct bird is around 230 degrees with an elevation of 30 degrees (about 1/3 from the horizon to directly overhead). One CAN face due south but be unable to get a signal if one lives close to a tall building south of one. I DO face south, but at 30 elevation, I have to sight between two buildings... very possible it won't work.

Thanks! What's the current timeframe for Fios?

Yeah - there's probably no way my building would allow it either. I do have plenty of southern windows, but we have an old stodgy board. They really don't care about modern conveniences since they were all born sometime during the industrial revolution. Now if we could get an HD service that ran on steam power we'd really have something!

Cheers,

Jason

Actually, one of the reasons I decided to be on my board was FIOS. I figure in the next 2 years the issue will come up, so I want to be part of the process that allows them in!

John, notice he said without a cable box?

What one gets is the following channels that are not scrambled: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13. 3 is TNT, 6 is C-SPAN. The rest are the "local" channels.
Riverside, notice I listed, from Berk32's spreadsheet, both the number of tunable analog channels and those scrambled, requiring a STB? It's a pretty straightforward subtraction problem. :) -- John

Anyone know what flavor of non-dvr hd stb 23rd St. is handing out these days? If it's not the old Pioneer (3510 I think), is it better?

Anyone know what flavor of non-dvr hd stb 23rd St. is handing out these days? If it's not the old Pioneer (3510 I think), is it better?

I'm wondering the same thing... had a tech out today (doing wiring) and he took a look at my pioneer 3510's and told me i should definitely upgrade.

the pioneer is not a great box, but outside of the painfully slow HD menus i have no issues with it. dunno if the newfangled boxes are any better

Also if im watching a high def channel and hit guide, then hit guide again, the picture will stay in the small box in the upper right hand corner.

That just happened to me as well! Thanks for the post, I thought it was just me.

I was sure I hit guide and guide again, but when I saw the glitch I figured I must have hit another button by accident and enabled some PIP function (the buttons are easly confused). Took me a while of tinkering before I just gave up and rebooted the machine (and went back to component).

I just got the HDC (hard drive in the HD crashed). Now I think I should have kept the HD.

Hi everyone, I don't feel like reading through ~14,000 posts so...

Can someone point me to a list of channels carried in HD by TWC NY?

I'm actually in Bergen county but I believe the lineup is essentially the same as in the city, no?

Thanks.

Hi everyone, I don't feel like reading through ~14,000 posts so...

Can someone point me to a list of channels carried in HD by TWC NY?

I'm actually in Bergen county but I believe the lineup is essentially the same as in the city, no?

Thanks.
Easy.
http://www.twcnyc.com

Easy.
http://www.twcnyc.com
The reason I asked is that the channel lineup on that website specifies only 6 channels in HD. Is that really all there is on TWC?

350 PPV for HD Only
702 WCBS HDTV
703 TNT in HD
704 WNBC HDTV
705 WNYW HD
707 WABC HDTV
708 TBS HD
709 WWOR HD
710 CNN HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
711 WPIX-HD
713 Thirteen HD
718 Discovery in HD Theater
720 M HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
726 SportsNet New York HD
727 MSG HD
728 ESPN HD
729 ESPN2 HD
730 YES HD
734 Universal HD
740 History Channel HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
746 A&E HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
748 Fox Sports Net NY HD
750 Food Network HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
762 Lifetime Movies HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
764 HGTV HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
765 National Geographic HD
776 Cinemax HD
777 Starz HD
778 TMC HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
779 SHOWTIME HD
780 HBO HD
794 Versus HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
795 NHL HD (in Woodside & S.I.)
796 MOJO
797 HDNet Movies
798 HDNet

What do you think the odds are of TWC adding USA HD in the near future? I know it has been unofficially up and running for a few months now, which an "official" launch scheduled for January 28th. I'd love to see WWE RAW in HD now (and they have a few popular original shows as well).

I'd really like to see an HD PPV channel as well. I don't see that happening any time soon though.

What do you think the odds are of TWC adding USA HD in the near future? I know it has been unofficially up and running for a few months now, which an "official" launch scheduled for January 28th. I'd love to see WWE RAW in HD now (and they have a few popular original shows as well).

I'd really like to see an HD PPV channel as well. I don't see that happening any time soon though.

No clue about USA HD (don't get your hopes up for 1/28....)

And about HDPPV - we do have a Special Events HD PPV channel (350)... but I would definitely like an On-Demand HD PPV channel..... of course without screwing with the quality - which Cablevision does...

That just happened to me as well! Thanks for the post, I thought it was just me.

I was sure I hit guide and guide again, but when I saw the glitch I figured I must have hit another button by accident and enabled some PIP function (the buttons are easly confused). Took me a while of tinkering before I just gave up and rebooted the machine (and went back to component).

I just got the HDC (hard drive in the HD crashed). Now I think I should have kept the HD.


Since I switched to component surprisingly the hdc has worked pretty much flawlessly. It sucked with hdmi, but so far so good with component. Of course ive only had it for 5 days, but ive been very pleasantly surprised.

OT (slightly) Question:

I have a friend who wants to connect the cable directly to her bedroom TV (no cable box - analog TV). What channels does TWNYC still make available as analog? Anybody know.

Thanks in advance,

-barry

I didn't have a STB until a few months ago (and only paid $13/month) and got the following:

2 CBS
3 WPXN (Pax)
4 NBC
5 FOX
6 C-SPAN
7 ABC
8 spanish
9 WWOR
10 NY1
11 WPIX
12 spanish
13 WNET
14 Food Network
21 WLIW
22 TBS
25 WNYE (public television)
64 CSPAN2
68 WLNY (aka TV-55 from LI)
98 Bravo
Also 4 Public Access channels, several home shopping channels, city/CUNY channels, spanish channels, a UN channel, OTB, and a NYC traffic channel

For more detail, go to Zap2it.com and pull up the TWCNYC - Cable Ready schedule and it should be accurate except for the Weather Channel, which I never got.

Every once in a while I correspond with someone who is high up the TWC chain. This week he said to me in response to "When will we get sdv in Manhattan", that this isn't in the cards for us. He said getting everyone over to digital boxes is a "quicker" remedy for the lack of bandwidth, and once that's done we will get many HD channels in a hurry. All he said for the near future is that they are hoping to more movies on demand in hd. He didn't estimate the complete digital box timetable

Every once in a while I correspond with someone who is high up the TWC chain. This week he said to me in response to "When will we get sdv in Manhattan", that this isn't in the cards for us. He said getting everyone over to digital boxes is a "quicker" remedy for the lack of bandwidth, and once that's done we will get many HD channels in a hurry. All he said for the near future is that they are hoping to more movies on demand in hd. He didn't estimate the complete digital box timetable
Jeez....At the rate they're going, they'll switch all the analog boxes out sometime around 2011. :(

Great.....we'll get all of our currently missing HD channels "in a hurry" in 3-5 years!

Quick question for my TWC friends that have BD or HD BVD p;ayers. From the look of things(Sorry HD-DVD owners) Sony's BD is ready to call checkmate and a matter of mounts if not weeks Toshiba will work out a agreement or something like that. My question for you guys of the gaming comuniy which Blu-ray player is rated the best. From my research, everything points to the PS3 as being one of the best players out there. I am weary of that because of all the problems that PS2 had with SD DVD's. I will check this site for more info but I though I give people I know the first feedback.

The thing that has me leaning toward the PS3 is the fact it is 1080p 24 fps w/HDMI 1.3 ready while a lot of the other players are still running HDMI 1.2 and not able to transfer the 24fps. and my nexxt LCD will have the same specs. Which I plan on getting this summer.
Thanks guys!

The thing that has me leaning toward the PS3 is the fact it is 1080p 24 fps w/HDMI 1.3 ready while a lot of the other players are still running HDMI 1.2 and not able to transfer the 24fps. and my nexxt LCD will have the same specs. Which I plan on getting this summer.
Thanks guys!
HDMI 1.3 is not required for 24p output. My LG BH100 is HDMI 1.2 and supports 1080/24p, no problem.

The PS3 is a pretty solid blu-ray player and of the current offerings, probably the most future-proof. My only complaint is fan noise and I don't have one of the noisier units.

HDMI 1.3 is not required for 24p output. My LG BH100 is HDMI 1.2 and supports 1080/24p, no problem.
Are you sure, from my reading the 1,2 would not be able to transfer at that speed or be able to transfer the proper colors at the 24fps? From my understanding you need to habe a BD player that sends a 24 fps and a TV that accepts it and the only cable to transfer it was the HDMI 1.3, Isn't this why they had to release it? Only to catch up to the next gen of TV's which have the 120 mhz of speed and the 24 fps for HDDVD's.

While you are right I don't need HDMI 1.3 to transfer the 24 Hps However, That is notg the only reason to get a coponent with HDMI1.3. which TV do you have? Because what good that feature is if most 24fps displays came out late last year and the ones on my shopping list all were HDMI 1.3 only w/24fps,not 1.2 Also remember the HDMI transfers more then the 24 fps which Is one of the reasons I am looking at the PS3 as an option.

IMO while you do have a great next gen dual HDDVD plsyer, you are not getting the full capabilities that the the newer cplayers and proper TV displays with HDMI 1.3 can afford you. Right now I don't even have a TV that can push the 24 fps only 60fps, but The PS3 was ahead of it's time and right now have been getting the best grades of all BD players. This is why I am scrathing my head if I should get it.

The PS3 is a pretty solid blu-ray player and of the current offerings, probably the most future-proof. My only complaint is fan noise and I don't have one of the noisier units.
Is fan noise really that much of a problem? I mean if you are really watching a DVD you are using a surround sound that should block out all sounds. Right?

Is fan noise really that much of a problem? I mean if you are really watching a DVD you are using a surround sound that should block out all sounds. Right?

I've had the PS3 for over 3 months and you are right. I have never noticed the fan, either while watching a movie or while playing.

Is fan noise really that much of a problem? I mean if you are really watching a DVD you are using a surround sound that should block out all sounds. Right?

Well you won't hear it during POTC, but I mix for a living and i can hear the fan during quiet passages and dialog driven films. What can I say? I'm sensitive to these things. :D
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I didn't have a STB until a few months ago (and only paid $13/month) and got the following:

2 CBS
3 WPXN (Pax)
4 NBC
5 FOX
6 C-SPAN
7 ABC
8 spanish
9 WWOR
10 NY1
11 WPIX
12 spanish
13 WNET
14 Food Network
21 WLIW
22 TBS
25 WNYE (public television)
64 CSPAN2
68 WLNY (aka TV-55 from LI)
98 Bravo
Also 4 Public Access channels, several home shopping channels, city/CUNY channels, spanish channels, a UN channel, OTB, and a NYC traffic channel

For more detail, go to Zap2it.com and pull up the TWCNYC - Cable Ready schedule and it should be accurate except for the Weather Channel, which I never got.

Thanks so much. My friend will appreciate the info.

-barry

This is the first time -- what a great surprise for tennis fans!

It doesn't look as good as the US Open HD feed, but a hell of a lot better than SD. Any tennis fans watching?

Are you sure, from my reading the 1,2 would not be able to transfer at that speed or be able to transfer the proper colors at the 24fps? From my understanding you need to habe a BD player that sends a 24 fps and a TV that accepts it and the only cable to transfer it was the HDMI 1.3, Isn't this why they had to release it? Only to catch up to the next gen of TV's which have the 120 mhz of speed and the 24 fps for HDDVD's.

HDMI 1.3 supports:
30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit color ("Deep Color"), vrs from 24-bit color in previous versions
Automatic audio syncing
Output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.


"Deep Color" sounds appealing, but it's not part of the Blu-ray standard and so you probably won't see disks made with this feature The most likely use is as an option for some video games.

Output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD is of limited value as well. As long as the the disc player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio.

Every once in a while I correspond with someone who is high up the TWC chain. This week he said to me in response to "When will we get sdv in Manhattan", that this isn't in the cards for us. He said getting everyone over to digital boxes is a "quicker" remedy for the lack of bandwidth, and once that's done we will get many HD channels in a hurry. All he said for the near future is that they are hoping to more movies on demand in hd. He didn't estimate the complete digital box timetable

Any chance of getting everyone to switch to digital this year ? Come on, I switched to digital almost six freaking years ago (2002). I want to get CNN HD, SciFi HD, USA HD, History HD, Weather Channel HD (I like meteorology), Animal Planet HD and all of my HBO premium channels in HD this year, not 2-3 years from now.

TWC should send a letter to all analog subscribers stating that on July 1st, 2008, there better be a digital box in your home if you want to continue receiving cable.

This is the first time -- what a great surprise for tennis fans!

It doesn't look as good as the US Open HD feed, but a hell of a lot better than SD. Any tennis fans watching?

It's not HD...

Not ESPN's fault... but the Aussie production isn't HD...

but the SD standard over there is higher than 480i (576i)... and obviously widescreen.... so its still upconverted-widescreen-SD... but a bit better than the SD we get here

This is the first time -- what a great surprise for tennis fans!

It doesn't look as good as the US Open HD feed, but a hell of a lot better than SD. Any tennis fans watching?
Caught some of the 1st round and thought the PQ was fairly good, especially in full sunlight (best contrast). The 'tennis 2008' thread in the HD programming forum, and Berk32 just above, points out this Open in converted from 576/50i to ESPN2-HD's 720p. Occasional crowd shots reveal how much resolution is lacking compared to true-720p and especially true 1080i, seen with CBS's U.S. Open coverage, (where you can distinguish individual faces in stadiums). The Tennis Channel is covering the Australian, too, with 480i conversions here.

Every once in a while I correspond with someone who is high up the TWC chain. This week he said to me in response to "When will we get sdv in Manhattan", that this isn't in the cards for us. He said getting everyone over to digital boxes is a "quicker" remedy for the lack of bandwidth, and once that's done we will get many HD channels in a hurry. All he said for the near future is that they are hoping to more movies on demand in hd. He didn't estimate the complete digital box timetable

FIOS Please Come & Save Us From Time Warner!!!

Any chance of getting everyone to switch to digital this year ? Come on, I switched to digital almost six freaking years ago (2002). I want to get CNN HD, SciFi HD, USA HD, History HD, Weather Channel HD (I like meteorology), Animal Planet HD and all of my HBO premium channels in HD this year, not 2-3 years from now.

TWC should send a letter to all analog subscribers stating that on July 1st, 2008, there better be a digital box in your home if you want to continue receiving cable.

It's true.....The problem is all of the bars, restaurants, grandmas, and grandpas who watch their same 15 SD channels on their ancient TVs who have no incentive to swap out their boxes.

TWC will absolutely need to send out a letter exactly like you describe -- but they will certainly face some backlash and possibly negative press from some corners.

The sooner they get it started, the sooner they can make it happen. But I haven't seen any such letters being sent yet.....And they're going to have to give people a pretty good amount of notice before they cut analog service....

Scott

Well you won't hear it during POTC, but I mix for a living and i can hear the fan during quiet passages and dialog driven films. What can I say? I'm sensitive to these things. :D
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That is what I thought M & A. While a good surround sound movie you wouldn't hear a thing. But a Movie that is pure dialog and nop background music you could hear it. But I thinkyou really have sensitive hearing like you A. But I am not that sensitive so I think I should be able to deal with it. Plus I live with the 8300 making noise and from what I hear the noise is similar.