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disafan

10-20-08, 12:53 PM

Clear QAM are channels available with a digital cable tuner, built into newer TV, that are not encrypted. The tendency of most cable companies, even though you may have a TV that can tune digital channels, is to encrypt everything but local broadcast stations.

QAM is the standard for digital cable, not to be confused with ATSC/8vsb, which is the standard for digital over the air. Those digital converter boxes you can get with the government coupons are ATSC only, not QAM, and thus not cable ready.

Most cable providers provide local channels, as per FCC requirements, unencrypted. They are officially supposed to provide all basic service channels, which would, if I understand, and I admit I am not 100% on this, include TBS, TNT, CSPAN, etc.

However, since I started monitoring ClearQAM, I have lost CSPAN and TCM, both are now encrypted. Also, LATV, for example., newly launched on 166, was encrypted despite the fact it is a digital broadcast subchannel. Not a loss for me as I don't speak Spanish though.

Before they cut analog service, I used to get Sci-Fi, Food Network, HGTV, Cartoon Network, TLC and Comedy Central unencrypted. No such luck digitally.

thetoad

10-20-08, 01:05 PM

scott_bernstein

10-20-08, 01:16 PM

I think we would all be pretty happy to find 27 new HD channels in the lineup tonight... I know I would certainly be ok with it...if another couple dozen were added by the end of the year, or early next.

By the way, what is ClearQAM?

I'd be happy just to find MHD/Palladia that Queens/Staten Island have had for a LONG time!

Starz/Sho/HBO multiplex channels would be pretty key as well, since we're paying for them but not getting them in HD while others are.

BTW -- has anyone EVER seen anything in HD on the Hallmark Movie Channel? What a HUGE waste of bandwidth!!! (Not even taking account the programming on the channel, which is questionable....)

Scott

disafan

10-20-08, 01:39 PM

I'm still hoping MGMHD is offered in the spot vacated by MOJOHD.

disafan

10-20-08, 01:39 PM

Thetoad...93-1 is WWOR for me as well. And I also have an HDHomerun.

AndyHDTV

10-20-08, 03:22 PM

In Manhattan and Mount Vernon we will launch the previously announced Virtual Video Store on channels 1001-1006 and HD Showcase on Demand on ch.699.

The launch of Tennis Channel HD has been postponed for Bklyn, Qns & S.I.

FUSE-HD & Encore-HD will also launch in Bklyn, Qns in addition to S.I.

mojo will be removed on 11/19 everywhere

Gooddog

10-20-08, 03:51 PM

rbienstock

10-20-08, 04:10 PM

Berk32

10-20-08, 04:20 PM

9 analog channels = space for 27 more HD channels at the rate they currently use of 3 per QAM slot.

If they squeezed more into that space the picture degradation would be horrible!

I should've elaborated....

I'm expecting more channels to be removed from analog very soon (the bandwidth from those 8 isn't even free yet - they all have the same message at the moment...)

Most of these 'initial 8' are highly watched channels... to get people's attention.

(I definitely don't expect them to cram more than 3 HD channels in 1 QAM slot)

carl2680

10-20-08, 04:32 PM

I think that TWC in southern Manhattan must have just gone to switched video, because I can no longer get signal on channels 53, 54, 64 and 85 on my CableCard equiped TiVo HD units. The regular cable boxes work just fine.

Time warner cable of NEw York and NJ is not using SDV ,and it will not use it. The only TWC divisions using SDV are buffalo, Albany, San Antonio TX, San diego, NC and others. SDV takes a lot of time to put it to work, that is why they went with the easy route (removing analog channels) it takes less time.

The good news for us here in Manhattan is that they remove the popular cable channels from analog (ESPN, Comedy central and others.) Now The bar owners, pizza shops, and unisex salons will not have a choice, but to upgrade their boxes.

coreynyc

10-20-08, 06:19 PM

No picture on 704 & 711 tonight. 3rd Ave & E 30th St

Anyone else having the problem?

JeffMoney

10-20-08, 06:30 PM

No picture on 704 & 711 tonight. 3rd Ave & E 30th St

Anyone else having the problem?

same problem in Queens

scott_bernstein

10-20-08, 06:37 PM

Agent_C

10-20-08, 06:43 PM

No picture on 704 & 711 tonight. 3rd Ave & E 30th St

Anyone else having the problem?

Me 2... Nothing on 704.

A_C

mikeM1

10-20-08, 06:48 PM

No picture on 704 & 711 tonight. 3rd Ave & E 30th St

Anyone else having the problem?

I'm in Queens....711 is working fine for me, but...704 is a blank grey screen. What's up??:confused:

willmthom

10-20-08, 07:22 PM

Here's what I really hate about buffering on the 8300HDC. It doesn't buffer the (one) current channel continuously. Here's what I mean: I will switch to channel 704 and confirm it's buffering, before I leave to go to work. When I return from work, the buffering had stopped. I cannot pause or rewind, because it has stopped buffering. I have to change channels (not tuner) to get buffering to re-start.

After a few hours the HDC will ask you to press the "A" button if you want to continue using the buffer. If you do nothing the buffer will shut off. This only started with the latest upgrade to the HDC. I'm looking for a way to disable this.

Tresjolie9

10-20-08, 07:33 PM

Able to get 004 the analog, but no 704 HD. Located on the Queens LI boarder, and have been trying to get through to the folks over at Time Warner and have had no luck.

coreynyc

10-20-08, 07:50 PM

I'm the OP.
Like everyone else, 711 is back for me but 704 is DOA.
They both crapped out a few minutes before 6.

I can record the Heroes rerun on MoJo later this week but I guess I have to settle for My Own Worst Enemy in SD.

BTW, it sucks that MOJO is going away. I rely on them to get the HD rerun of Heroes as I also record Prison Break on Mondays and I usually need to have an open tuner to watch sports on Mon.

carl2680

10-20-08, 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=scott_bernstein;14905096]Less time than what? It seems to me that it's taken a REALLY long time to remove the analog channels.

If the cable company will remove all the analog channels eventually, why spend a lot of money in the SDV technology, at the same time they are getting sue by the FCC in other cities.

74 analog channels removed X 3= 222 HD channels in the future. Now the question is: Will the TWC HD channels look as stunning as FIOS.

AndyHDTV

10-20-08, 09:34 PM

No picture on 704 & 711 tonight. 3rd Ave & E 30th St

Anyone else having the problem?

I'm on 2nd ave & 30th no problems here at the moment.

hansangb

10-20-08, 09:46 PM

NYPokerface

10-21-08, 07:29 AM

Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens, Mount Vernon

October 17, 2008

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future:

Azteca America, BBC on Demand, Chinese Channel, Chinese Cinema, Encore, Encore Action, Encore Drama, Encore Love, Encore Mystery, Encore Western, Encore WAM, Fuel TV, Great American Country (GAC), Game Show Network, HITN, NBA TV, NHL Network, Oxygen on Demand, Sci Fi Channel, Showtime, Showtime Beyond, Showtime Extreme, Showtime Family, Showtime Next, Showtime ShowCase, Showtime Too, Sleuth, Starz, Starz in Black, Starz Cinema, Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, Starz Kids & Family, Supercanal, The Movie Channel, The Movie Channel Xtra, The Arabic Channel, RTVi, RAI, NGTV, TV Japan, Universal HD, USA Network, and WNBC.

In addition from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned for customers in Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens & Mt. Vernon:

Effective October 22nd in Brooklyn and Queens: We will provide additional channel positions for existing services, specifically: HBO HD will be added to 651, Cinemax HD to 658, Showtime HD to 666, TMC HD to 674, and Starz HD will be added to 676. In these areas we will also launch the following HD services: Cartoon Network HD on 722, FX HD on 737 and Speed HD on 774.

In Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon we will also launch the following HD services: Fuse HD on 691, Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports HD on 467, and ESPNU HD on 793. Big Ten Network HD and CBS College Sports HD will be a part of Sports Tier. We will also launch the following premium HD services: HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More MAX HD on 659, Action MAX HD on 660, Thriller MAX HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, Five Star MAX HD on 664, OuterMAX HD on 665, Showtime Showcase HD on 668, SHO Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 674TMC Xtra HD on 675, Encore HD on 682.

In Mount Vernon: We will provide additional channel positions for existing services, specifically: HBO HD will be added to 651, Cinemax HD to 658, Showtime HD to 666, and Starz HD will be added to 676. We will launch the additional premium HD services: Showtime 2 HD on 667, Showtime Showcase on 668, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, and Starz Comedy HD on 681. We will also launch the following HD services: Cartoon Network on 776, Discovery HD on 774, Fox Business News HD on 728, Fox News HD on 731, FX HD on 738, TLC HD on 751, Palladia HD on 727, Travel Channel HD on 763, Weather Channel HD on 736, ESPN News HD on 792, and NHL Network HD on 795. NHL Network HD will be a part of Sports Tier and the NHL Center Ice package.

The launch of Tennis Channel HD in Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon has been postponed.

Effective November 19th: In Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon, HBO will now appear only on 651, Cinemax HD on 658, Starz HD on 676 and Showtime HD will now appear only on 666.

In Manhattan and Mount Vernon we will launch the previously announced Virtual Video Store on channels 1001-1006 and HD Showcase on Demand on ch.699. Virtual Video Store and HD Showcase on Demand will only be available on the following set-top boxes: Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC.

In Mount Vernon we will launch History International on 130, Biography on ch. 143, NY1 on ch. 701, Planet Green HD on 768, The Science Channel HD on 770, Biography HD on 781, Speed HD on 779, and Game HD on 791 and 445. We will move Food Network from 719 to 718 and WNJN (NJN2) from 750 to 165.

The previously announced service drop of MOJO (796) will occur on this date. The previously announced launch of My Life on Demand (1218) will occur on this date.

mikeM1

10-21-08, 09:15 AM

"The launch of Tennis Channel HD in Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon has been postponed"
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That *sucks*. :(

lee7n

10-21-08, 10:02 AM

I have ODN Version: 2.4.10_11 2008/06/05 running on SA 8300HDC/NYC. Every time I turn it on, the aspect ratio is set to 16:9. The problem with this is that SD channels that my kids and wife watch gets the sidebar. I could hit the ASPECT button on the remote to stretch out the picture. But the problem is that when you go to HD channel, the stretch is still in effect.

If you set the aspect ratio to 4:3, SD channels fill out while HD channels come in properly (w/o any stretching/zooming).

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? I could program my URC to change the menu setting, but it's far from perfect solution.

thanks
I am not sure I understand what you are saying but if it is a 16x9 TV that is how it should be set. It is normal for SD Channels to have the sidebars since those channels are broadcast 4x3. Make sure in the box settings you have normal set as the default aspect. I have the same box and if i hit zoom/stretch on an SD channel and change to HD channel it goes back to normal automatically.

Gooddog

10-21-08, 10:41 AM

You have to go to settings/more settings/power-on channel and change it from default(NY1) to last channel or whatever channel you want to come on when u power the box up. I think after an update we all got switched to default

I have the NY1 issue to. I have a HD box with passport. I went thru the menu last night but didn't see a power on channel setting.:confused:

OSUBuckly

10-21-08, 10:56 AM

ank

10-21-08, 01:15 PM

I guess the big question continues to be whethe Manhattan will get all of these new HD channels anytime soon.

rbienstock

10-21-08, 03:57 PM

Time warner cable of NEw York and NJ is not using SDV ,and it will not use it. The only TWC divisions using SDV are buffalo, Albany, San Antonio TX, San diego, NC and others. SDV takes a lot of time to put it to work, that is why they went with the easy route (removing analog channels) it takes less time.

The good news for us here in Manhattan is that they remove the popular cable channels from analog (ESPN, Comedy central and others.) Now The bar owners, pizza shops, and unisex salons will not have a choice, but to upgrade their boxes.
If that is so, then how do you explain the fact that that signal disappeared (until this morning) on only 4 channels (A&E, Yes, HGTV and TVLand) only on CableCard equipped devices? If it wasn't SDV that removed the channels, why were only CableCard devices affected and not regular STBs?

lee7n

10-21-08, 04:38 PM

scott_bernstein

10-21-08, 04:41 PM

If that is so, then how do you explain the fact that that signal disappeared (until this morning) on only 4 channels (A&E, Yes, HGTV and TVLand) only on CableCard equipped devices? If it wasn't SDV that removed the channels, why were only CableCard devices affected and not regular STBs?

More than that -- those of us on the Passport OS with the 8300HD DVRs would not be able to get the channels if they had been moved to SDV. So clearly, since we can still tune those channels, they are not SDV.

AndyHDTV

10-21-08, 06:11 PM

Bklyn, Qns & S.I. - 84 HD channels
Man. – 32 HD channels

350 PPV-HD
465 Tennis Channel-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
467 CBS CS-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
472 Big Ten Network-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
651 HBO-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
652 HBO2-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
653 HBO Family-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
654 HBO Comedy-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
655 HBO Signature-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
656 HBO Zone-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
657 HBO Latino-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
658 CINEMAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
659 MoreMax-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
660 ActionMAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
661 5StarMAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
662 ThrillerMAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
663 WMAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
664 @MAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
665OuterMAX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
666 Showtime-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
667 Showtime 2-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
668 ShowCase-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
669 ShowExtreme-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
674 TMC-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
675 TMCxtra-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
676 Starz-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
677 Starz Edge-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
678 Starz Kids & Family-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
681 Starz Comedy-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
682 Encore-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
691 Fuse-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
699 Showcase On Demand-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
700 Movies On Demand-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
701 NY1-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
702 CBS2-HD
703 TNT-HD
704 NBC4-HD
705 FOX5-HD
707 ABC7-HD
708 TBS-HD
709 MY9-HD
710 CNN-HD
711 CW11-HD
713 PBS13-HD
720 Palladia --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
722 Cartoon Network-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
726 SportsNet New York-HD
727 MSG-HD
728 ESPN-HD
729 ESPN2-HD
734 Universal-HD
737 FX-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
738 ABC Family-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
740 History Channel HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
743 Fox Business News HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
744 Fox News HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
746 A&E-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
748 MSG+-HD
749 Disney-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
750 Food Network-HD
752 The Learning Channel-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
753 YES-HD
755 Science Channel-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
760 Toon Disney-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
762 Lifetime Movies-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
763 Biography-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
764 HGTV-HD
765 National Geographic-HD
766 Discovery-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
767 HD Theater
768 Planet Green-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
772 Weather Channel-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
774 Speed-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
776 CINEMAX-HD
777 STARZ-HD
778 TMC-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
779 SHOWTIME-HD
780 HBO-HD
784 Hallmark Movie Channel-HD
786 Animal Planet-HD
788 Travel Channel-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
791 GAME-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
792 ESPNews-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
793 ESPN U-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
794 Versus-HD
795 NHL-HD --- (in Bklyn, Qns & S.I.)
796 MOJO-HD
797 HDNet Movies
798 HDNet

Not Yet Added in NYC, Added in Other Systems.

Team-HD (NBA League Pass in HD)
NBA TV-HD
The Outdoor Channel-HD
MGM-HD
HD Adult On Demand

alleg23

10-21-08, 08:41 PM

Bklyn, Qns & S.I. - 83 HD channels
Man. – 32 HD channels

when will this take affect? like at what time? midnight? not iportant, just curious.

also, from the list, they arent adding anything new. just giving us hd channels of stuff we already have.

wondering if u or anyone knows about sci-fi hd or usa hd being added?

alleg23

10-21-08, 08:51 PM

twcnyc: brooklyn customer.

i have 2 boxes hooked up to one tv. I just move one of the boxes to hd with the explorer hdc box and a sony fp.

previous to this set up, i was able to "split" the signal to feed the 2 standard boxes, the tv, and 2 tv tuner cards in a pc.

once i added the hd box, the hd box had issues. some hd channels would only have blank screens. other than AE and tbs, they werent important.

only got them back once i change the splitter and just removed everything but the 2 boxes.

i was wondering in TWC would help getting at least one of the pc tuner, tv and 2 boxes working corretly, or would they just say no?

does any one else have any ideas? like what would be a good splitter/cables to power the pc tuner and tv tuner and still have the hd box work the way it should?

btw, im planning to replace the second box to hd soon.

thanks.

AndyHDTV

10-21-08, 09:04 PM

when will this take affect? like at what time? midnight? not iportant, just curious.

also, from the list, they arent adding anything new. just giving us hd channels of stuff we already have.

wondering if u or anyone knows about sci-fi hd or usa hd being added?

1. Don't know what time tomorrow.
2. What do you mean, "anything new"? Be happy your going to have 83 HD channels to watch, I will still have 32 in Manhattan.
3. TWC Corporate is in negotiations with NBC Universal for those and other channels.

alleg23

10-21-08, 09:28 PM

2. What do you mean, "anything new"? Be happy your going to have 83 HD channels to watch, I will still have 32 in Manhattan.

im happy im happy. ;)

new meaning a new channel. the hd channels they added (or will add tomorrow) are just hd versions of channles we already have.

not that im complaining.

3. TWC Corporate is in negotiations with NBC Universal for those and other channels.

good to know.

btw, thanks for the info.

Berk32

10-21-08, 09:40 PM

im happy im happy. ;)

new meaning a new channel. the hd channels they added (or will add tomorrow) are just hd versions of channles we already have.

but thats EXACTLY what we want!

(its not like there are many HD-only channels out there)

mikeM1

10-21-08, 10:46 PM

This is weird, but it's been happening on my TV for weeks: can anyone tell me why, when i first turn on the plasma in the morning, and the station I've set to always power on at 6am goes on, but the station that's in the PIP window is =always= ch 171, ESPN Classic, a station i NEVER EVER WATCH?? :eek: *Really* kinda strange. :confused:

bluespots

10-22-08, 01:23 AM

finally hbo all in hd ... thought id let you guys know ... all the channels work except fuse hd ... on 691 ... however tennis hd works =)

when will we have hbo hd ondemand?

im in queens flushing

heinriph

10-22-08, 09:16 AM

Anyone notice a substantial drop in picture quality last night? In in Asotira and usually Gossip Girl has one of the best looking pictures on TWC. Last night it seemed a bit grainy. Also, Heroes usually looks a lot better than it did last night too. Do you think this is a freak occurrence or do the new channels have something to do with it? I'll know more when Smallville airs on Thursday. That usually looks stellar and if that has gone the way of the grain, I will be really annoyed.

NY1HD looked liked dog poop this morning (I know it's just SD anyhow, but it's generally a bit sharper so i can make out the text on the newspapers on In The Papers).

A mess of pixellation and macroblocking and what not (I'm sure I'm not using the proper terms, but you get the idea) this morning.

I'm Brooklyn and the last few weeks have been pretty crappy on all sorts of channels, including SD channels...

BeatsMe

10-22-08, 10:45 AM

NY1HD looked liked dog poop this morning (I know it's just SD anyhow, but it's generally a bit sharper so i can make out the text on the newspapers on In The Papers).

A mess of pixellation and macroblocking and what not (I'm sure I'm not using the proper terms, but you get the idea) this morning.

I'm Brooklyn and the last few weeks have been pretty crappy on all sorts of channels, including SD channels...

I'm in Brooklyn too, Wburg, and I've had the same problem. I'm happy to have new channels, but not at the expense of the old ones! NY is especially bad--and why isn't it in true widescreen?

ank

10-22-08, 11:02 AM

Agent_C

10-22-08, 11:08 AM

Bklyn, Qns & S.I. - 83 HD channels Man. – 32 HD channels
>HD Adult On Demand

Good grief... There's HD porn????

A_C

lee7n

10-22-08, 12:01 PM

Good grief... There's HD porn????

A_C

Because you need to see those black and blue marks in absolute clarity lol

scott_bernstein

10-22-08, 12:04 PM

If I had that whole lineup in Manhattan, it would prevent me from switching to Fios. As it is, I'm jumping ship the second it becomes available. I'm tired of paying as much or more and getting significantly fewer channels in HD. At least offer us lower prices for reduced service. Any idea on when we might enter the 21st century too?

I got an email today saying that FIOS is coming to my neighborhood and that they are in the process of negotiating with my building now to get access. I'm in the West Village (bet 6/7 ave & bet. W4 & Blkr)

zEli173

10-22-08, 12:06 PM

If I had that whole lineup in Manhattan, it would prevent me from switching to Fios. As it is, I'm jumping ship the second it becomes available. I'm tired of paying as much or more and getting significantly fewer channels in HD. At least offer us lower prices for reduced service. Any idea on when we might enter the 21st century too?

Call TW and tell them you're considering switching to FIOS. They will lower your bill by about 20%.

scott_bernstein

10-22-08, 12:06 PM

previous to this set up, i was able to "split" the signal to feed the 2 standard boxes, the tv, and 2 tv tuner cards in a pc.
If you split the signal you may have issues with signal strength. The HD boxes require a very strong signal to work. The issues you describe (some channels being blank, etc.) are very common indications of weak signal strength. Apparently your signal is strong enough for 1 box, but once you're splitting it you're cutting the signal strength.

kcieslicki

10-22-08, 12:12 PM

1. Don't know what time tomorrow.
2. What do you mean, "anything new"? Be happy your going to have 83 HD channels to watch, I will still have 32 in Manhattan.
3. TWC Corporate is in negotiations with NBC Universal for those and other channels.

Hey Andy, why is Manhattan not getting the same channels as Bkyn an Queens when it's all part of TWCNYC?

FYI, I'm at 2nd Ave and 95th Street, Manhattan

carl2680

10-22-08, 12:33 PM

Hey Andy, why is Manhattan not getting the same channels as Bkyn an Queens when it's all part of TWCNYC?

FYI, I'm at 2nd Ave and 95th Street, Manhattan

Because a lot of people still have the old analog boxes, especially bar owners, small shops, and residents. Now any person that currently has a analog box is not receiving ESPN, EspN2, BET, Comedy central and others. If they want to continue recieiving those channels they must upgrade their boxes. Once everyone own a digital box, TWC will remove every single analog channels making the necessary space to add any HD channels that Queens,BK, SI have.

(2) There are some buildings here in Manhattan with old cable lines, so they need to be upgraded (mine was ugraded 4 months ago).

Berk32

10-22-08, 12:36 PM

Hey Andy, why is Manhattan not getting the same channels as Bkyn an Queens when it's all part of TWCNYC?

FYI, I'm at 2nd Ave and 95th Street, Manhattan

The main reason is that they turned off the standard Analog service in the other boroughs (forcing leftover analog-box customers to switch to a digital box)

They have just begun the final steps of converting Manhattan (8 analog channels were just removed in the last few days).
(note - the space taken by one old analog channel is the same requirement for 3 HD channels)

They had 'promised' that all of us would be at around 100 HD channels by year end - and it does seem like they will get there.

So now your questions is: Why is Manhattan last? And why wasn't everyone done together?

First, TWC NY/NJ is actually made up of multiple 'legacy' cable systems, so they have the luxery of changing lineups in different boroughs at different times (Manhattan is actually split in 2 - Northern and Southern).

Second, logistics played a key roll. Manhattan had a lot more Analog-box customer than the others, and there are only so many digital boxes to go around at certain times. Also, there are alot more older Manhattan buildings with older wiring that needed to be upgraded just to be able to use premium digital service (which they've been working on all this time - now that they are removing analog channels, it would indicate that they have finally completed this task and now have enough supply of boxes to get people to convert)

Finally - FiOS availablity played a roll - it was in the other boroughs before Manhattan.... simple enough...

Basically, we got caught up in a massive transitional year.

And considering the HD channels don't cost extra, the 'pay more for less' argument isn't going to go very far....

Berk32

10-22-08, 12:38 PM

Because a lot of people still have the old analog boxes, especially bar owners, small shops, and residents. Now any person that currently has a analog box is not receiving ESPN, EspN2, BET, Comedy central and others. If they want to continue recieiving those channels they must upgrade their boxes. Once everyone own a digital box, TWC will remove every single analog channels making the necessary space to add any HD channels that Queens,BK, SI have.

(2) There are some buildings here in Manhattan with old cable lines, so they need to be upgraded (mine was ugraded 4 months ago).

not 'every analog channel' - first the 'scrambled' ones that required a box.

Some will still remain (mainly the locals)

kcieslicki

10-22-08, 12:55 PM

Thanks Carl and Berk for the very informative replies. One follow up question, what is the geographical boundary between Northern and Southern Manhattan?

In the meantime, I am just going to pray SpeedHD arrives before the last Formula 1GP on Nov 2nd.

alleg23

10-22-08, 12:57 PM

but thats EXACTLY what we want!

(its not like there are many HD-only channels out there)

i get that, but it was a long list and wanted to make sure i didnt miss anything "new".

hey, with scifi hd and usa hd i would be happy.

i really cant think of a "new" channel that i want.

alleg23

10-22-08, 12:59 PM

If you split the signal you may have issues with signal strength. The HD boxes require a very strong signal to work. The issues you describe (some channels being blank, etc.) are very common indications of weak signal strength. Apparently your signal is strong enough for 1 box, but once you're splitting it you're cutting the signal strength.

so, i guess TWC wont help.:(

i wonder what will happen when i get the second hd will i have enuf strength to power them both?

slumpey326

10-22-08, 12:59 PM

what area is considered northern manhattan and southern manhattan

Berk32

10-22-08, 01:07 PM

http://www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLibrary/4/50/Content%20Management/Products%20And%20Services/documents/0908-RP-MN.pdf

Northern Manhattan:
Above East 86th Street and above West 79th Street

Southern Manhattan:
Below East 86th Street and below West 79th Street

40 years ago, the city split Manhattan in 2 regions for the original cable franchise distribution. Southern Manhattan was started by Charles Dolan, with an investment from Life (and they bought out Dolan within a few years, so he went out to Long Island and started a new cable franchise) (you could say that Southern Manhattan is one of the few cable systems nationwide to never change 'ownership')
Northern Manhattan has been thru a number of owners before Time Warner took it over in the 90s.

Berk32

10-22-08, 01:10 PM

In the meantime, I am just going to pray SpeedHD arrives before the last Formula 1GP on Nov 2nd.

Sorry... not going to happen...

There's a 'chance' that we get more HD with the addition of HD Showcase On Demand on 11/19 - but its more likely that they'll arrive a short time after that

Berk32

10-22-08, 01:22 PM

New Spreadsheet for Northern Manhattan.

nothing special on the HD 'front' - but found some 'hidden' SD channels that were given to the other Boros last month (Biography and History International)

Already mentioned the analog channel removal and the shift of a group of SD channels earlier.

Gulley

10-22-08, 02:04 PM

I've done that and they act like I'm from another planet. They pitch their price lock guarantee. What did you say or what is it called for you to get his discount?
Call TW and tell them you're considering switching to FIOS. They will lower your bill by about 20%.

SRFast

10-22-08, 02:12 PM

Hi. I can see the new channels in the guide and select them, but there is no video or audio. Anyone else have this issue?

TIA...JL

MacAlert

10-22-08, 02:25 PM

I checked SpeedHD this morning and there was picture. Not sure about the others.

len3121

10-22-08, 02:40 PM

having same problem here (little neck, queens) on some channels.. fx, cartoon network, espnu..show up on guide but just show blank screen when actually trying to view them. Some of the new channels not even showing up in the guide (700, 691). Called TW and they said they are aware of the problem and should be fixed by 7am tomorrow.. lets see... although i'm not holding my breath

BkDude

10-22-08, 03:20 PM

Good grief... There's HD porn????

A_C

Good grief because they're expensive and edited to kingdom come. I wonder how many people actually pay for this when you can see more for free on the internet. Anyone know what the "ratings" are on the adult channels?

AndyHDTV

10-22-08, 03:47 PM

Are you guys rebooting your boxes?

Sometimes it helps.

Agent_C

10-22-08, 04:03 PM

Are you guys rebooting your boxes?

Sometimes it helps.

I'm sending a signal to your box...

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper920/stills/41897c2ec2d7a-98-1.jpg

A_C

Ronster515

10-22-08, 04:34 PM

Same problem here in Glendale, Queens. Many new HD channels listed in guide but no picture and audio.

JeffMoney

10-22-08, 04:42 PM

Same problem here in Glendale, Queens. Many new HD channels listed in guide but no picture and audio.

same problem in corona and re booting does not do it since its on there wnd, everytime they add new channels it has this problem..what else is new..
DonkeYkOnG

Pappas3278

10-22-08, 08:52 PM

Well, still no NEW HD channels here in Washington Heights.
Will anyone in Manhattan please post here when you see something new added?
Thanks.

-Mike

lee7n

10-22-08, 09:10 PM

Well, still no NEW HD channels here in Washington Heights.
Will anyone in Manhattan please post here when you see something new added?
Thanks.

-Mike

That could be quite a while

Berk32

10-22-08, 09:24 PM

Well, still no NEW HD channels here in Washington Heights.
Will anyone in Manhattan please post here when you see something new added?
Thanks.

-Mike

It will be before the end of the year.

ank

10-23-08, 11:20 AM

Call TW and tell them you're considering switching to FIOS. They will lower your bill by about 20%.

Help me out with this. I called a few weeks ago and mentioned I was considering switching to Fios and if they could offer me any sort of discount.

The only offer she gave me was for the PriceLockGuarantee scam which is essentially a 3 year service agreement for some minor savings. That program is available to anyone. Who the hell wants to be locked in like that?

Usually, when you sign a service agreement, you get a big initial payoff. They've changed their advertising to Price-Lock and are trying to sell this as a benefit. Basically, they argue it insulates you against price increases, but the irony is that the increases are coming from Time Warner. That's like an insurance guy telling you need insurance on your artwork because he's going to steal it himself.

Is there some different 20% savings that people are being offered, did I just get a dumb tech or is there some keyword I'm supposed to use. I mean, I really am pretty likely to change to Fios without a bill reduction or more channels.

TomNYC

10-23-08, 11:50 AM

Did anyone else have a problem with Fox in HD last night during the World Series? I had all kinds of pixelation and satellite glitches on my picture on 705. It was the only channel affected, so I'm not sure whether the Fox feed was bad or it was a TWC problem.

JeffMoney

10-23-08, 12:09 PM

It would be nice if they add new HD channels and they work, hello did u ever hear test first..still no FXHD & Big Ten hd and who knows what else i missed..
This goes on everytime they add new HD channels the black screen..

p.s where is USA & SFIHD..?

broadwayblue

10-23-08, 12:19 PM

It will be before the end of the year.

I guess that's a positive way to look at it...only 69 more days left.

AndyHDTV

10-23-08, 12:19 PM

where is USA & SFIHD..?

Still in Talks with TWC Corporate.

John Mason

10-23-08, 12:37 PM

Someone in the local FIOS thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14925566#post14925566) thinks TWC's SD picture quality is better. Perhaps a FIOS user will map channels, as Berk32 has, to help compare density/frequency slot, or measure HDNet's test pattern as well.

As mentioned in the link, I've added RCN's so-called analog-crush lineup to my full TWC lineup for a while at least, maybe until FIOS arrives (midtown East). My RCN lineup still lacks SciFi, USA and a few other HDs (noted in the local RCN thread). -- John

JeffMoney

10-23-08, 12:46 PM

Speaking about Talks are we ever going to get the NFL Network..

lee7n

10-23-08, 01:54 PM

zEli173

10-23-08, 01:56 PM

Help me out with this. I called a few weeks ago and mentioned I was considering switching to Fios and if they could offer me any sort of discount.

The only offer she gave me was for the PriceLockGuarantee scam which is essentially a 3 year service agreement for some minor savings. That program is available to anyone. Who the hell wants to be locked in like that?

Usually, when you sign a service agreement, you get a big initial payoff. They've changed their advertising to Price-Lock and are trying to sell this as a benefit. Basically, they argue it insulates you against price increases, but the irony is that the increases are coming from Time Warner. That's like an insurance guy telling you need insurance on your artwork because he's going to steal it himself.

Is there some different 20% savings that people are being offered, did I just get a dumb tech or is there some keyword I'm supposed to use. I mean, I really am pretty likely to change to Fios without a bill reduction or more channels.

I would say just try again. Probably depends on who you talk to. Maybe hit the extension to cancel service (I think that's what I did), which might bring you to different reps.

ank

10-23-08, 02:56 PM

^

Did a little better this time. Called and complained about the Manhattan vs. Brooklyn lineups and made him look at the differences in channels and vs. the bills.

Got my Internet upgraded from 1.5MB to 10MB and got upgraded from the Digital Starter Pack to the DTV Value for a couple bucks less than my current bill. Not too bad, but not much new HD either. He also said the extended premium movie HD channels were coming soon, but didn't give me a date. I guess I'll stick to TW for a bit and see if they deliver by the end of the year.

Berk32

10-23-08, 03:00 PM

disafan

10-23-08, 03:36 PM

Try asking for the "Retention Department"

lee7n

10-23-08, 03:39 PM

I'd be willing to bet a large sum of $ that Manhattan will be caught up with the rest of TWC NY/NJ sometime in December (or end of November).

Maybe they are planning on giving us a Xmas present. At least they are actually collecting analog boxes.

cap_167

10-23-08, 06:31 PM

thetoad

10-23-08, 08:36 PM

Service was out in my area (Washington Heights) for about 4 hours today (around 2 and ended at around 6) wondering if this could mean good news for more HD channels sooner rather than later.:confused:

it was? I wasn't watching tv then, but I didn't notice an internet issue.

speaking of which, cap_167, do you get TNT in Clear QAM? or do you not use it?

Kold Kuts

10-24-08, 10:30 AM

10/24/08 NY Daily News Richard Huff-

"The disconnect from the WNBC branding and the not-too-news-centered approach of the NY Channel will likely come as welcome news to the staff at rival NY1. Although some have said they aren't worried about their operation being challenged by Ch. 4's new offering, parent company Time Warner Cable has been quietly resetting the default channel on some cable boxes to NY1 during recent software reprogramming efforts."

Sneaky Sneaky ;)

Slikkster

10-24-08, 11:02 AM

Ronster515

10-24-08, 11:58 AM

JeffMoney

10-24-08, 12:27 PM

Still many of the new HD channels released on 10/22 are not showing up. Only in guide, no video or sound. Is this still an issue for others?? Called TWC yesterday said it should be on this morning, if not call them back. I am getting sick of this SH*T!!!

Ronnie

same for me in queens and i have the 8300hdc

here is the list not working...

652 HBO2
653 HBOS
654 HBO FAMILY
656 HBO ZONE (PICTURE BUT NO SOUND)
472 BIG TEN
737 FX

and that the same problem for everyone else..?

Agent_C

10-24-08, 12:32 PM

alleg23

10-24-08, 12:53 PM

i did a quick scan, and at least for me they were all coming in.

the first night (22nd), one of the hbo's was choppy, but when i check last night it didnt seem to be.

Im in brooklyn.

BTW, re the 8300 hdc, does out put 2 do anything? i would like to connect my two boxes to dvd recorder, for those times I want a hard copy without having to futz with cables.

one box will connect to the tv via hdmi, can i use the component/composite to connect to the dvdr and be able to record the signal.

the second box will connect via output 1 to the tv, does the composite in output 2 work?

thanks.

sgf

10-24-08, 12:55 PM

Hi

We have recently added a new cable box for a second TV.

The first box is a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR running passport. It works fine.

For the new box they gave us a SciAtl 4250 running Navigator. It has constant problems, frequently putting up a blank screen with "Please Wait". This occurs even when NOT changing channels. I think it is trying to get guide info and failing. TWC has sent signals several times and we constantly have rebooted box. Sometimes it holds for a few days and then goes back to this poor state.

I have asked TWC if they have any old boxes with passport and they said not likely.

They said they also had older 8300 boxes and Samsung 3050 boxes. Anyone know if they are any better?

Thanks

Gulley

10-24-08, 01:34 PM

I called in and said I was thinking of switching to Fios. They lowered my triple play package from 134 to 99 per month for 12 months and gave me two free months of RR turbo. This is in Manhattan. This was not a price lock. Thanks to whoever mentioned this. I really appreciate it. I would say just try again. Probably depends on who you talk to. Maybe hit the extension to cancel service (I think that's what I did), which might bring you to different reps.

mikeM1

10-24-08, 05:31 PM

FWIW, last night I was getting some deja vu old time freeze-ups and blank grey screens all over the place while trying to watch the World Series on FOX. During several points, NONE of the channels were working, forcing me to turn it off and then back on. I finally gave up around 10PM last night. Things seem to have settled down today, but last night was rough! :mad:

Berk32

10-25-08, 01:06 AM

ATTENTION NORTHERN MANHATTAN:
MORE ANALOG REMOVED!
(well.. replaced with the same blue screen + 'call for digital service' message)

3 - TNT (yes, they even removed one channel that wasn't even scrambled.. 'one of their own')
17 - HGTV
30 - ABC Family
38 - Nickelodeon
51 - truTV
66 - History Channel
67 - Cartoon Network
79 - SNY

That's another 8

TravKoolBreeze

10-25-08, 02:10 AM

ATTENTION NORTHERN MANHATTAN:
MORE ANALOG REMOVED!
(well.. replaced with the same blue screen + 'call for digital service' message)

3 - TNT (yes, they even removed one channel that wasn't even scrambled.. 'one of their own')

I can confirm this. Just checked the one TV that isn't hooked up to a digital box and the screen is there for TNT.

Berk32

10-25-08, 04:35 AM

New Northern Manhattan spreadsheet
(updated for analog changes)

I also had some fun with the colors...

I hope it's even more informative (or more confusing... :p)

I have to assume that some of the sections that I've labeled 'unknown' are most likely used for internet download bandwidth (all upload bandwidth (phone, internet and cable box communications) are sent at frequencies higher than 57 Mhz and I really don't have a way to chart them...)

It would be great if someone knew of a way to check what frequencies are being used for internet services...

Cable box itself downloads at 91MHz and uploads at 27MHz... not that this is useful in any way...

HRAMOS1965

10-25-08, 10:48 AM

What about southern manhattan how many analog channels we have or has been removed

HRAMOS1965

10-25-08, 10:55 AM

what about southern manhattan

AndyHDTV

10-25-08, 01:49 PM

broadwayblue

10-25-08, 02:10 PM

thats great. looks like they will add 50+ all at one time.

Let's just hope they add them soon!

AndyHDTV

10-25-08, 02:17 PM

Let's just hope they add them soon!

let's hope they do the same here in manhattan south soon, doesn't look like they will give HD channels to just north and leave south trailing behind.

alleg23

10-25-08, 02:23 PM

so, the more analog channels they remove, the more room they have for hd?

this only affects does customers who have an analog box or arent using a box at all?

AndyHDTV

10-25-08, 02:57 PM

so, the more analog channels they remove, the more room they have for hd?

this only affects does customers who have an analog box or arent using a box at all?
Yes, every analog channel shut off has the ability to have 3 HD channels in it's place.
So far 16 analog channels have been shut off according to our friend Berk32. So manhattan north could add 16x3= 48 HD channels.

ILW

10-25-08, 03:10 PM

Berk32

10-25-08, 03:13 PM

Yes, every analog channel shut off has the ability to have 3 HD channels in it's place.
So far 16 analog channels have been shut off according to our friend Berk32. So manhattan north could add 16x3= 48 HD channels.

to be 100% clear - none have actually been shut off yet...

Instead of actual network content, they all have a blue screen with message telling people to call in to 'view the channel' (aka - switch to digital service)

so the bandwidth is not cleared up just yet.

obviously they'll want to keep the message up for a little while (maybe a few weeks) to give people one last chance to switch....

Ronster515

10-25-08, 03:25 PM

Hi all again. I am still missing many of the new HD channels that started on 10/22. Customer service is unable to help over the phone and has set me up for a tech appointment on Friday, 10/31. Is there still some of you having this problem and if not please tell me how you resolved it. I have an 8300HDC. I hate to take a day off for this.
I am also researching DirecTV to see how much it will cost. Would like to keep phone and internet with TW. After this I am very leary of the TV capabilities.

Ronnie

dampfnudel

10-25-08, 07:02 PM

same for me in queens and i have the 8300hdc

here is the list not working...

652 HBO2
653 HBOS
654 HBO FAMILY
656 HBO ZONE (PICTURE BUT NO SOUND)
472 BIG TEN
737 FX

and that the same problem for everyone else..?

I don't have 652 HBO2.

I have all of the other HBO HD channels, as well as 737 FX. I hope we get 716 USA HD, 717 Scifi HD and 736 Spike HD by the end of the year.

Berk32

10-25-08, 07:05 PM

greengiant78

10-25-08, 09:58 PM

Anybody else still not getting Fuse HD channel 691? Not getting it here in Far Rockaway with numerous resets with 8300HDC.

Ronster515

10-25-08, 10:00 PM

Fuse HD is not even listed in my guide on 8300HDC. What a joke this company is!!!!!

Ronnie

Ronster515

10-25-08, 10:04 PM

Spoke to a friend of mine who lives nearby, he is also not getting the same channels as me. No dought something wrong on there end, all I have to do now is convince someone at TWC of this. Is there anyone else I can call instead of getting these incompedent customer service idiots??

Ronnie

TravKoolBreeze

10-26-08, 12:33 AM

Fuse HD is currently available only in S.I.

NYPokerface

10-26-08, 02:54 PM

Anybody else still not getting Fuse HD channel 691? Not getting it here in Far Rockaway with numerous resets with 8300HDC.

I just went to the TW website and they changed FuseHD for TennisHD. I guess we won't see Fuse until the next time they add some new HD channels.

ILW

10-26-08, 03:59 PM

Using my 8300HD and my DVD recorder, I used to be able to record shows to DVD either while they were broadcast or during playback from my 8300. I now have a 8300HDC, and when I tried to record to DVD a program being broadcast, my DVD recorder told me that I was trying to copy a protected movie and wouldn't allow the recording. Is this a function of the HDC software, or is it something TWC has changed for all programming?

I think I figured out why I can't record certain TWCNYC channels to DVD. It appears that HBO and Starz are copy-protecting all their material (though, curiously, not Showtime). I can now record to DVD from only non-HBO/Starz channels. In the past, I was also able to record HBO shows to DVD, so I assume the copy-protection has not always been in place, at least here in NYC.

Anyone have further info on this? And, is there any workaround to making DVD copies of shows shown on HBO/Starz?

broadwayblue

10-26-08, 05:48 PM

Does anyone know how to backup shows off the SA8300HD? I'd love to be able to make an archive of Rangers games to watch in the future. Any way to do this?

greengiant78

10-26-08, 06:04 PM

I just went to the TW website and they changed FuseHD for TennisHD. I guess we won't see Fuse until the next time they add some new HD channels.

Thanks for the input guys.

nordloewelabs

10-26-08, 06:53 PM

I'm in Queens. We get TNT-HD on Channel 93-2. But it is still the same Time Warner. I know different heads have different ClearQAM openings, based on what I've heard, but my comment on being reluctant to call attention to it still stands.

TNT HD was available in ClearQAM in Northern Manhattan for about a week. from what i can tell, it was dropped on the same day Comedy Central and Discovery were dropped....

and, as of Saturday 25 (or maybe Friday 24), the analogs of TNT and History were dropped as well. TWC seems to be taking a more aggressive approach lately. the lameness of it is that all those 15-20 analog channels they've dropped are still taking bandwidth. furthermore, putting Hallmark HD on ClearQAM is like giving away dung pie.... :-(

jg_rocks

10-26-08, 08:05 PM

yeah.same here. one lady basically told me to switch, we dont care. the other guy at least tried. only to say he can save me a whopping 12 bucks ! yeah. whats the trick ?

jg_rocks

10-26-08, 08:06 PM

** the above is in reference to recieving 20 percent off my bill **

not having much luck.

oh and btw, hello all. this forum ROCKS. much

Berk32

10-26-08, 09:44 PM

and, as of Saturday 25 (or maybe Friday 24), the analogs of TNT and History were dropped as well. TWC seems to be taking a more aggressive approach lately. the lameness of it is that all those 15-20 analog channels they've dropped are still taking bandwidth. furthermore, putting Hallmark HD on ClearQAM is like giving away dung pie.... :-(

They obviously have a plan at this point... (and I would think they've had a timeline in place for a while for converting the entire region)

They are taking away 8 analog channels a week (it seems) and giving the analog customers one last chance to make the switch to digital.

As much as we hate it... you'd be surprised how many analog box customers there still were... (probably close (if not more) than the # of HD subscribers)

(and I already listed before what analog channels have been removed)

broadwayblue

10-26-08, 11:50 PM

Yeah, you gotta believe they are moving forward with the elmination of analog...even if it's taking longer than we would like. The more channels they drop, the closer we are to more HD.

nordloewelabs

10-27-08, 04:28 AM

They are taking away 8 analog channels a week (it seems) and giving the analog customers one last chance to make the switch to digital.

what do you mean by "one last chance"? will they be damned to tv-lessness for ever if they dont switch now? :-P

btw, i saw a list of future HD channels in another thread and i wondered, how many of them (if any) will be placed into the "Basic/Standard" packages? how does TWC decide that? I like HD much as the next guy, but it sucks when i see the good stuff getting added to the higher tiers....

JMillion

10-27-08, 07:41 AM

Berk32

10-27-08, 08:33 AM

what do you mean by "one last chance"? will they be damned to tv-lessness for ever if they dont switch now? :-P

btw, i saw a list of future HD channels in another thread and i wondered, how many of them (if any) will be placed into the "Basic/Standard" packages? how does TWC decide that? I like HD much as the next guy, but it sucks when i see the good stuff getting added to the higher tiers....

1) well... sorta... yeah...

2) all HD channels are on the same tier as their SD counterparts

disafan

10-27-08, 09:01 AM

Gooddog

10-27-08, 09:29 AM

to be 100% clear - none have actually been shut off yet...

Instead of actual network content, they all have a blue screen with message telling people to call in to 'view the channel' (aka - switch to digital service)

so the bandwidth is not cleared up just yet.

obviously they'll want to keep the message up for a little while (maybe a few weeks) to give people one last chance to switch....

I think TWC can map channels to one source so in effect they are only sending the message on one channel source.

Berk32

10-27-08, 09:32 AM

I think TWC can map channels to one source so in effect they are only sending the message on one channel source.

with digital channels yes... (the whole system is 'mapping')

not with analog ones... technology purely based on 'one channel - one signal'

alleg23

10-27-08, 10:09 AM

Anybody else still not getting Fuse HD channel 691? Not getting it here in Far Rockaway with numerous resets with 8300HDC.

i looked at the channel listings for my area last night, and fuse is listed as being on 691.

it isnt.

btw, is universal hd a "free" channel?

my second box doesnt get it, but does get other "pay" for channels i dont pay for, like the 2nd tmz extra.

Berk32

10-27-08, 10:18 AM

btw, is universal hd a "free" channel?

my second box doesnt get it, but does get other "pay" for channels i dont pay for, like the 2nd tmz extra.

Its not on the HDXtra package (some other regions around the country have put it there after InHD2 went under - some had it there all along).

and it should be a part of the most basic package.

disafan

10-27-08, 10:45 AM

UHD should be free. But I cynically think Time Warner will charge us for anything they can get away with.

JeffMoney

10-27-08, 12:12 PM

i thought it was just me. i live in Corona,NY. yea i havent been able to see any of the new HD channels added and even some like Toon Disney HD that they just moved around has no audio but picture. i tried a reset the other day, which worked last time they added new channels. but nothing this time. lol all i want is USA-HD and Spike TV-HD

channels still out

here is the list not working...

652 HBO2
653 HBOS
654 HBO FAMILY
472 BIG TEN
737 FX
760 TOON (NO AUDIO)

and that the same problem for everyone else..?

John Mason

10-27-08, 01:50 PM

Don't forget the HDXtra Package, which is HDNet and HDNet Movies. My prediction is that they'll add MGM-HD and possibly move Universal HD into this tier, as Universal has no SD counterpart, and they could make money thusly. Comcast, I hear, has done something like this.
RCN, which I've co-subscribed to for the extra HD, carries MGMHD in its 6-channel special HD tier, along with the two HDNets. But MGMHD, for the week I've had it, only displays "Out of service, check back later." Guess the tier is ~$10. With TWC's 'it's all here' package, still getting both HDNets. -- John

hufcane

10-28-08, 11:21 AM

alleg23

10-28-08, 12:49 PM

i have twc for nyc and the hd dvr box(the one that sucks). so i wanted to setup my picture in picture thru my sony xbr5 instead of using the crappy cable on. so i did it and it works great but my question is--when im using the PIP and using the tv remote i get a lot of channels that are 1.4 or 118.8(just examples) and espn is scrambled but i get espnU? doesn anyone know why i wouldnt get espn and does anyone know where i can find a list of channels cause their are a lot of them.

i asked the question about the channel listing and didnt get an answer. i also did a google search.

i ended up going through all the channels and writing what i found.

i dont use anymore, because when i split the signal the hd boxes start loosing channels.

and for why you get espn u and not espn? probably cause they havent gotten around to encrypting it yet.

i was getting showtime 2, but not showtime.

nuttyinnyc

10-28-08, 01:23 PM

An annoucement from an olg friend, WTF happened to TWC? They went from HD lousy to an HD BOOM!!!! aT MY LAST COUNT WE ARE 80 AVAILABLE options in in B & Q, To my old fiends in the city you still get the short straw. I have to say, for the most part they all look good. i AM NOT SURE ON ACTUAL fios COUNT BUT THEY ARE STAYING COMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW, hEY IT ONLY TOOK THEM 5 YEARS! Like those who know me, I am Verizon hunting when available, but it will all come down to best price. And right now (sit down everyone) TWC is better.. SAT is out of question, mainly because my house has on-demand junkies. As TW expands therre on-demand will offer more HD posibilities.

What memories we all have of TWC darker days. One thing that left me we a sour taste was the post olmpics robbery. I was so happy with one of my MUST stations to be in HD, USA and an added extra was getting MSNBC in HD also. But to my surprise my happiness was shortlived. Whule TWC has made up a little to me with FXHD, ( The Shield series finale finally gets the HD treatment it deserves)While I still have hope that USAHD will be back, time is running out. No announcment and new shps on the horizon. (L&O: CI Nov, MONK, Psych, and Burn notice in dec-Jan) lLet's not forget once USAHD comes back I think it is safe to say it sill be a package deal meaning first aired BSG in HD for it's series finale.

nuttyinnyc

10-28-08, 01:38 PM

i have twc for nyc and the hd dvr box(the one that sucks). so i wanted to setup my picture in picture thru my sony xbr5 instead of using the crappy cable on. so i did it and it works great but my question is--when im using the PIP and using the tv remote i get a lot of channels that are 1.4 or 118.8(just examples) and espn is scrambled but i get espnU? doesn anyone know why i wouldnt get espn and does anyone know where i can find a list of channels cause their are a lot of them.
This is TWC's way of saying Use our STB, not your fancy pants quam tuner in your TV. It does suck thatit happens that way, then to add to your miseries, scrambled channels come and go. One day you might have g4 the next you would have sleuth. So you really don't want to erase the channels that claim they are scrambled because they might be working at any time. Maybe the planets have to align to get the most working channels thru the TV tuner.
My surprise QAM catch is Fear.net movies and Music choice Videos, but even those are like night and day.

Berk32

10-28-08, 01:39 PM

i asked the question about the channel listing and didnt get an answer. i also did a google search.

i ended up going through all the channels and writing what i found.

i dont use anymore, because when i split the signal the hd boxes start loosing channels.

and for why you get espn u and not espn? probably cause they havent gotten around to encrypting it yet.

i was getting showtime 2, but not showtime.

1) Oddly enough, I have seen ESPNU (standard def digital) available on 3 different cable systems in the clear (TWC here, Cablevision LI, and some random cable company down in South Florida) It seems that sometimes they'll add a new channel and forget to set the encryption... and since its not a very important channel, nobody really cares...

2) there is no official list... since it changes all the time - and the cable companies rarely even officially acknowledge that the channels are even possible to get without a box. They are only 'legally' required to place the locals in the clear - which they do. So anything else you may find via scan is a bonus.

(and on a side note - while I was in Florida, I actually got USAHD and SciFiHD in the clear for a few days - sadly it didn't last thought)

nordloewelabs

10-28-08, 05:37 PM

i dont use anymore, because when i split the signal the hd boxes start loosing channels.

what can one do in such case? i saw a Motorola signal booster (cant remember the model number anymore) on Amazon a few months back.... according to he 4-star reviews, the device was good and able to improve reception of digital signal. what you guys know about it?

the reason why i ask is because i'd like to split my cable (i'm guessing it's legal) to 2 TVs.... i'm sure that if i call TWC and ask them to come and do it, they'll come up with a new piece of equipment for me to lea$e. i'd rather keep monthly fees static. a friend of mine paid $60 for a splitter from Dish... :-)

so, if i decided to split my cable, would i need some sort of booster like the Motorola one?

@alleg23: you say you experienced loss of channes.... in how many parts did you split your signal?

broadwayblue

10-28-08, 05:44 PM

not really TWC news, but could be interesting for those of us holding off on FIOS due to the lack of MSG-HD.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6607848.html

ANGEL 35

10-28-08, 07:31 PM

May be some one can help me with my 8300HDC box. The box seems to go to channel765any time dog whisperer comes on. I dont know why it does this. Can any one help??

alleg23

10-28-08, 08:08 PM

what can one do in such case? i saw a Motorola signal booster (cant remember the model number anymore) on Amazon a few months back.... according to he 4-star reviews, the device was good and able to improve reception of digital signal. what you guys know about it?

the reason why i ask is because i'd like to split my cable (i'm guessing it's legal) to 2 TVs.... i'm sure that if i call TWC and ask them to come and do it, they'll come up with a new piece of equipment for me to lea$e. i'd rather keep monthly fees static. a friend of mine paid $60 for a splitter from Dish... :-)

so, if i decided to split my cable, would i need some sort of booster like the Motorola one?

@alleg23: you say you experienced loss of channes.... in how many parts did you split your signal?

i would love to know of a splitter that works.

i live in an apartment building.

once in the apt, twc splits it to go to the cable modem and to the boxes. they split it again, to "power" 2 boxes. this works.

when i trying replacing the 2nd 2 way splitter, i start losing channels.

i tried powered and un-powered splitters, but they dont seem to help. it would be great if i could send a signal to my tv and a tv tuner card.

not knowing what i should look for in a splitter is holding back my further testing.

Berk32

10-28-08, 08:32 PM

i would love to know of a splitter that works.

i live in an apartment building.

once in the apt, twc splits it to go to the cable modem and to the boxes. they split it again, to "power" 2 boxes. this works.

when i trying replacing the 2nd 2 way splitter, i start losing channels.

i tried powered and un-powered splitters, but they dont seem to help. it would be great if i could send a signal to my tv and a tv tuner card.

not knowing what i should look for in a splitter is holding back my further testing.

not all splitters are equal

kozman

10-28-08, 09:04 PM

BRUCE on , good picture and audio so far....

alleg23

10-28-08, 11:03 PM

not all splitters are equal

i get that, but what makes a good splitter?

Gooddog

10-29-08, 09:28 AM

BRUCE on , good picture and audio so far....

When we visit family on S.I. we watch Palladia. Wish it was here in the HV.

Gooddog

10-29-08, 10:43 AM

Hudson Valley

October 17, 2008

Effective November 19th: We will launch A&E HD on 729, Animal Planet HD on 779, Discovery HD on 715, Disney HD on 738, Toon Disney HD on 759, TLC HD on 739, NHL Network HD on 795, CNN HD on 716, Speed HD on 786, Weather Channel HD on 735.
The previously announced service drop of MOJO (796) will occur on this date. The previously announced launch of My Life on Demand (1218) will occur on this date.

They posted the above on the TWC site a few weeks ago Below is whats posted today. What in the world is going on? Less HD adds??

Hudson Valley

October 17, 2008

Effective November 19th: We will launch Animal Planet HD on 779, Discovery HD on 715, and Big Ten Network HD on 472.

The previously announced service drop of MOJO (796) will occur on this date. The previously announced launch of My Life on Demand (1218) will occur on this date.

scott_bernstein

10-29-08, 11:55 AM

When we visit family on S.I. we watch Palladia. Wish it was here in the HV.

Or in manhattan!!! TWC has continued to add crap HD channels that don't show any HD programs on them (Hallmark Movies, anyone???) but yet ignore a 24/7 HD channel that the other boroughs have had for a LONG time (when it was MHD).

Scott

JeffMoney

10-29-08, 02:01 PM

Effective November 19th: In Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon, HBO will now appear only on 651, Cinemax HD on 658, Starz HD on 676 and Showtime HD will now appear only on 666.

In Manhattan and Mount Vernon we will launch the previously announced Virtual Video Store on channels 1001-1006 and HD Showcase on Demand on ch.699. Virtual Video Store and HD Showcase on Demand will only be available on the following set-top boxes: Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC.

In Mount Vernon we will launch History International on 130, Biography on ch. 143, NY1 on ch. 701, Planet Green HD on 768, The Science Channel HD on 770, Biography HD on 781, Speed HD on 779, and Game HD on 791 and 445. We will move Food Network from 719 to 718 and WNJN (NJN2) from 750 to 165.

The previously announced service drop of MOJO (796) will occur on this date. The previously announced launch of My Life on Demand (1218) will occur on this date.

Queens for me too what a joke TWC is the only true HD channel is going MOJO and now what will be the bs extraHD package.. and still from oct 22 the new channels they claim they added still are blank. even when i call the dumb A there they were trying to tell me at first that the HD channels start at 700 not 650, i told them to read there notes and look again..

scott_bernstein

10-29-08, 02:14 PM

Queens for me too what a joke TWC is the only true HD channel is going MOJO and now what will be the bs extraHD package.. and still from oct 22 the new channels they claim they added still are blank. even when i call the dumb A there they were trying to tell me at first that the HD channels start at 700 not 650, i told them to read there notes and look again..
Mojo is OK (frankly I don't think I'll miss it all that much except for the fact that I'm losing a channel that I'm paying for as part of the HDXTra package) -- but let's not forget the best HD channels on the system -- HDNet & HDNet Movies!

nordloewelabs

10-29-08, 03:01 PM

i get that, but what makes a good splitter?

i've been doing a lot of research on this subject lately and, although i havent gotten a clear answer to it, i managed to get some stuff cleared out. check out the FAQ and thread below....

http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/cabletech
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1020325&highlight=buy+cable+splitter

after buying a splitter (i still dont know which one is the best), i might need to buy an amplifier too. i guess i'll have to go to another AVS board to ask about it as this board here is more TWC-centric.

please, if you get any info, let me know.

disafan

10-29-08, 04:43 PM

If you have an amplifier, hide it from the TWC techs when they came. They have a tendency to rip them out. They also removed my cable line surge protector.

nordloewelabs

10-29-08, 06:58 PM

If you have an amplifier, hide it from the TWC techs when they came. They have a tendency to rip them out. They also removed my cable line surge protector.

wow. that's ninja. O.o well, i dont have an amplifier or splitters installed yet. however, i'd like to connect my TV card and another TV to the box, so i'll definitely need a splitter and, perhaps, an amplifier.

from my research online, i've seen some people recommending the use of splitters and amplifiers obtained from the Cable co itself. according to those people, equip sold online is of poor quality.... is that true? thre's nothing decent online? and if so, would TWC "sell" me a splitter and amplifier or would they "lease" them? i'd rather own.

Berk32

10-30-08, 12:53 AM

AndyHDTV

10-30-08, 02:50 AM

9 more Analog channels 'removed' in Northern Manhattan:

12 - Lifetime
15 - CNBC
24 - MSG+
36 - Weather Channel
37 - MSG
54 - MSNBC
61 - FX
62 - Lifetime Movie Network
77 - Oxygen

(nothing else has changed yet, as far as I can tell)

wow, Can't believe how fast they are knocking them out. that's 25 now.
With 15 scrambled analogs left. 100 HD channels is in view.

Pappas3278

10-30-08, 10:00 AM

scott_bernstein

10-30-08, 10:52 AM

Berk32

10-30-08, 11:14 AM

Any movement on Southern Manhattan?

Plug a cable into you tv and find out.... :p

AndyHDTV

10-30-08, 12:08 PM

Plug a cable into you tv and find out.... :p

i did that and I just get Regular analogs. not even these that have been knocked out in N. Manhattan.

Berk32

10-30-08, 12:49 PM

I wonder if this means that they are going to give Northern and Southern Manhattan the new channels separately....

nuttyinnyc

10-30-08, 02:12 PM

i get that, but what makes a good splitter?
A good splitter shoulkd be 1Gig or higher, but also watch how many times you split. ommon practice is to split no more than 4 times. If that is your situation you would want better than 1 gig splitter.
You want to keep slitind to a minimum. If yyou need more than 4 splits I would look for an amplified splitter. but check how it looks first because amp split are $$$$. Wfile spliters you can get cheap or even look down the block for the cable guy and will gladly provide you with one

carl2680

10-30-08, 02:23 PM

I wonder if this means that they are going to give Northern and Southern Manhattan the new channels separately....

Northern Manhattan will get all the HD channels before suthern Manhattan, due to the fact that in the south there are a lot of business with analog boxes especially bars and firms. That was the plan from the get go. Staten island, Brooklyn and Queens, Northern Manhattan, and then South Manhattan.

I did a search and I found 36 channels with the blue screen which means that they can give us all the Hd channels that the others borough have, plus more.
.

nuttyinnyc

10-30-08, 02:34 PM

Let me paint a picture for the guys losing HD signal and splitter problems. In most houses or apartments cable has be laid years ago. Some of us as early as 1980(for me it is 1988) Unless you have had signal issues in the past you will still generally have the same spltters and cab;e from back then. TWC has updated all the lines outside of home and partments but only chanfed inside when and if there was a problem. Back in the pre digital age a 400 mrg splitter was the norm all of us had them at one time. But here came DTV and TWC and all cable companies said set it up yourselves and there wouldn't be a charge. Why would we have a tech come and charge us $$$$ if it is an easy fix. Whi;e DTV look so much better then that full analog crap, no one ventured behond the TV's to see a 4-10 y/o splitter. But once HD was introduced we did it again just switch the box. But t5his time problems did occurr and the cable company was going house to house to rewire from out side throught the entine house and what did they finally do, change the splitters. Now all is happy until super HD comes out in 10 years and we need 2gig splitters.

So to all my friends that are new to this HD thing, before te panicky calls to TWC check your splitter and get it up to date. If after that ypu still have issues, then it is on them and a no charge sevice call is in your future.

PS One extra note a spliter in general is the same It follows the same arguement if Monster cables worth the extra charge. So far this site as well as other have agreed Monster is over priced and you can get better for less. You could get a quality splitter for $1.00 at any electricians supply store. Just remeber in theory the the splits are not even when you splt 3 or more times, but like they say digital is digital and you get the signal is or you don't but I thought you gus should know how most splitters split in general 2 way 50%-50% of your signal 3 way 50/35/15, 4way 50/25/15/10 WHile these numbers are no close what the real signal loss is . you guys should get the point. However if you have 1 gig or better there is no need to worry.

Berk32

10-30-08, 02:48 PM

Northern Manhattan will get all the HD channels before suthern Manhattan, due to the fact that in the south there are a lot of business with analog boxes especially bars and firms. That was the plan from the get go. Staten island, Brooklyn and Queens, Northern Manhattan, and then South Manhattan.

I did a search and I found 36 channels with the blue screen which means that they can give us all the Hd channels that the others borough have, plus more.
.

-I remember hearing about that 'plan' a while back... but it always seemed unclear if they would actually do it that way...

-You got 36 with a blue screen?? I was only at 25 late last night around midnight.

Pappas3278

10-30-08, 03:00 PM

Northern Manhattan will get all the HD channels before suthern Manhattan, due to the fact that in the south there are a lot of business with analog boxes especially bars and firms. That was the plan from the get go. Staten island, Brooklyn and Queens, Northern Manhattan, and then South Manhattan.

I did a search and I found 36 channels with the blue screen which means that they can give us all the Hd channels that the others borough have, plus more.
.

That's truly good news for all of us in Manhattan. Should I stop constantly looking for the extra HD channels every night when I get home from work and just wait until the end of the year?

-Mike

Berk32

10-30-08, 03:06 PM

That's truly good news for all of us in Manhattan. Should I stop constantly looking for the extra HD channels every night when I get home from work and just wait until the end of the year?

-Mike

there will be an announcement a few weeks in advance.... so you don't need to be checking your tv nightly...

(just check http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html)

carl2680

10-30-08, 03:27 PM

-I remember hearing about that 'plan' a while back... but it always seemed unclear if they would actually do it that way...

-You got 36 with a blue screen?? I was only at 25 late last night around midnight.

Yep, I just checked a couple of hours ago, there is 36 channels with blue screen which include MTV and VH1. You can say that they basically removed all the good cable channels, and left NY1, the locals and others. CNN was removed too.

Berk32

10-30-08, 03:29 PM

Yep, I just checked a couple of hours ago, there is 36 channels with blue screen which include MTV and VH1. You can say that they basically removed all the good cable channels, and left NY1, the locals and others. CNN was removed too.

guess i'll update my list later tonight

lee7n

10-30-08, 03:39 PM

Berk32

10-30-08, 03:46 PM

Are you in North or Southern Manhattan?

he's Northern - AndyHDTV just mentioned a few hours ago that he checked and still had everything.

TravKoolBreeze

10-30-08, 03:47 PM

I was wondering, whats the odds that N. Man. will see all the HD the outer Boroughs on Nov. 19?

Berk32

10-30-08, 03:55 PM

I was wondering, whats the odds that N. Man. will see all the HD the outer Boroughs on Nov. 19?

unlikely... probably would've seen some of the channels listed already on the update website....

disafan

10-30-08, 04:27 PM

Not necessarily. They made last minute changes on that as well, but usually it is retracting or postponing previously promised items. They could have a last minute amendment.

Berk32

10-30-08, 04:47 PM

Not necessarily. They made last minute changes on that as well, but usually it is retracting or postponing previously promised items. They could have a last minute amendment.

well like i said - if something was already listed - then i'd say theres a chance more could come by then...

they didn't put anything in for manhattan on 11/19 - which is why i doubt they'll suddenly list a bunch for that date

nuttyinnyc

10-30-08, 05:13 PM

well like i said - if something was already listed - then i'd say theres a chance more could come by then...

they didn't put anything in for manhattan on 11/19 - which is why i doubt they'll suddenly list a bunch for that date
Het Berk! How bad are you Mahattanites getting screwed? We all knew you guys drew the short staw, but how short was it? At last count I amn at 80 but that is including all premiums and on-demand.

Berk32

10-30-08, 05:18 PM

Het Berk! How bad are you Mahattanites getting screwed? We all knew you guys drew the short staw, but how short was it? At last count I amn at 80 but that is including all premiums and on-demand.

we're still in the low 30s

you should have about 50 more

HRAMOS1965

10-30-08, 05:20 PM

These are channel that i see when i plug the cable directly to the tv 2 through 13

NY1
FOOD TV
SPIKE TV
TBS
SHOP NBC
DISNEY CHANNEL
TRUTV
GALAVISION
QVC
FX
BRAVO
FOX NEWS
TV GUIDE
CPAN
MNN

nordloewelabs

10-30-08, 06:06 PM

PS One extra note a spliter in general is the same It follows the same arguement if Monster cables worth the extra charge.

i've seen ppl touting the superior quality of Regal splitters.... so that's overblown?

but I thought you gus should know how most splitters split in general 2 way 50%-50% of your signal 3 way 50/35/15, 4way 50/25/15/10 WHile these numbers are no close what the real signal loss is .

please, bear with me here.... the properties of splitters have puzzled me for a while. the more i read about it, the more confused i get.... :-(

in a 2-way splitter, there's a loss of 3.5dB, right? what does that mean exactly? let's assume the signal i get inside my apt, from TWC, is 15dB (how much it it, really?). if i put a 2-way splitter on the coax, the outputs of the splitter would -- together -- give 11.5dB (15 - 3.5), right? that is, each output of said splitter would give 11.5 / 2 = 5.25dB, right? somehow i believe i'm completely wrong. :-D

could anyone here, please enlighten me on the workings of 2-way and 3-way splitters? if possible giving a practical example in which the signal input is, let's say, 30db? how much would i get in "each output" of a single 2-way splitter? and how much if i used a 3-way splitter, instead?

if this is too complicated or time-consuming, where can i get such info? just trying to boost my geekness. thanks in advance.

HDTV Dude

10-30-08, 08:42 PM

Northern Manhattan and Southern Manhattan? Can someone tell me where the demarkation line for the two lies? Thank you.

carl2680

10-30-08, 10:00 PM

Northern Manhattan and Southern Manhattan? Can someone tell me where the demarkation line for the two lies? Thank you.

I think its from 79th westside, and 86 east Up ) its northern Manhattan, that is where the line break.

Berk32

10-31-08, 12:53 AM

More Analog removed for Northern Manhattan (as mentioned earlier):

10 - CNN
14 - A&E
20 - MTV
23 - AMC
27 - USA
39 - CSPAN2 (not scrambled)
42 - BET
46 - Sci Fi
48 - Bravo
49 - Fox Business News
52 - The Learning Channel
53 - Galavision
63 - National Geographic
64 - SpikeTV
72 - Fox News
99 - VH1

Every previously scrambled Analog Channel (along with TNT and CSPAN2) now display a message telling analog viewers to call in the continue service.

34 Analog channels still contain actual content. (41 have been 'removed' in the last 2 weeks)

thetoad

10-31-08, 01:02 AM

In Northern Manhattan I'm getting Cinemax-HD and MSG-HD in ClearQAM for the past couple of weeks. They also added 2 channels of all day ads, which at night at least seems to go all porn. also added hallmark channel in SD (walker texas ranger is on now) and Reelz, which seems like crap.

HRAMOS1965

10-31-08, 01:46 AM

All the channels that i listed are those analog channel

Gooddog

10-31-08, 09:20 AM

I pluged the cable directly in to my Samsung LCD. I let the TV scan for signals and found Ch2 thru Ch 13. All NYC locals except Ch6-HSN and Ch10 was some religious station. Nothing else.

Does that sound right?

heinriph

10-31-08, 09:34 AM

It's official - bend over and say thank you. Nice way to tarnish the allure of one of the few reasons I would hesitate to switch to FIOS:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/10/30/2008-10-30_tune_in_to_new_york_1__or_time_warner_ca-2.html

Gooddog

10-31-08, 10:13 AM

My 8300HD box was defaulting to NY1. Now starting this week it powers on to the last veiwed channel.

DNINE

10-31-08, 10:49 AM

You can set the box to power on to any ch you want. Is TW setting this "default" NY1 regardless?
NY1 is nice but given the choice it is no deal breaker, bring on FIOS. plus you can get NY1 online for the most part.

slumpey326

10-31-08, 11:00 AM

why would you want to start on channel 1, I hate that channel. I like turning on the tv to where it started last.

JeffMoney

10-31-08, 12:11 PM

pdroth

10-31-08, 02:08 PM

Is it just me?
im in corona, queens

channels still out

here is the list not working...

652 HBO2
653 HBOS
654 HBO FAMILY
472 BIG TEN
737 FX
760 TOON (NO AUDIO)

and that the same problem for everyone else..?

I'm in LIC, Queens and HBO2 came on yesterday finally. Only channels I'm not getting (and I don't care either) are TOON HD and Lifetime Movies HD. I have all of the available movie channels and couldn't be happier, except that the PQ is not so hot.

AndyHDTV

10-31-08, 03:00 PM

Every previously scrambled Analog Channel (along with TNT and CSPAN2) now display a message telling analog viewers to call in the continue service.

34 Analog channels still contain actual content. (41 have been 'removed' in the last 2 weeks)

wow, 41.
They just might be done removing analogs now.
I guess in 30 days something will pop up in N. Manhattan.

Kold Kuts

10-31-08, 03:18 PM

JeffMoney

10-31-08, 04:00 PM

Working fine for me - Bayside, Queens

i was told that in certain areas it was still in test mode and the IT is working on it, so that is why it is still blank, even tho it shows up in the guide.. who knows what monkey biz is going on over there..
p.s i am using the 8300hdc what about you, dont think that has something to do with it but who knows..

broadwayblue

10-31-08, 08:55 PM

41 is a great start. They could easily add 100 HD channels and about 50 more worthless SD digital stations, right? I guess I won't complain about them launching the Crochet network if they give us a ton of new HD.

mikeM1

10-31-08, 09:09 PM

It would be NICE to watch tonite's Halloween Parade on 701....but all I'm getting is a BLANK screen. :mad:

mikeM1

11-01-08, 01:04 AM

It would be NICE to watch tonite's Halloween Parade on 701....but all I'm getting is a BLANK screen. :mad:

It's STILL out as of 1AM. All of a sudden the cable box went into {boot} mode, but when it came back, NY1HD was =still= missing, only showing a blank gray screen. :(

John Mason

11-01-08, 07:40 AM

could anyone here, please enlighten me on the workings of 2-way and 3-way splitters? if possible giving a practical example in which the signal input is, let's say, 30db? how much would i get in "each output" of a single 2-way splitter? and how much if i used a 3-way splitter, instead?

if this is too complicated or time-consuming, where can i get such info? just trying to boost my geekness. thanks in advance.
Might try the AVS HDTV technical section. It covers generalized material like this and has lots of threads going into splitter/amp details. -- John

TonyNYC

11-01-08, 10:06 AM

It would be NICE to watch tonite's Halloween Parade on 701....but all I'm getting is a BLANK screen. :mad:

TBH, I do not think you missed much. I do not recall a time since 701 went live where a news broadcast or programming on NY 1 was in true HD. All I ever see are sidebars saying NY 1.

jcc

11-01-08, 11:51 AM

So, does anyone know if we can still get TNT and TNT HD on QAM or not? I lost both about a week ago, is it coming back? I lost Fox HD for about a week a couple weeks back and it came back.

slumpey326

11-01-08, 12:16 PM

JeffMoney

11-01-08, 12:31 PM

none of my premium HD channels on the UWS are working, i.e. HBOHd, StarsHD. The screen is just black on those channels. DiscoveryHD doesnt work. Only get the local HD channels like NBCHD, ABCHD. Anyone else noticing this.

TWC is falling apart alot of HD are blank for me like HistoryHD and so on..i know they changed your cus.support software yesterday , bc when i called them ( dont know why) they said there system was down..

slumpey326

11-01-08, 12:35 PM

anyone else in manhattan having these problems

broadwayblue

11-01-08, 12:46 PM

none of my premium HD channels on the UWS are working, i.e. HBOHd, StarsHD. The screen is just black on those channels. DiscoveryHD doesnt work. Only get the local HD channels like NBCHD, ABCHD. Anyone else noticing this.

Are you sure you don't mean HD Theater? I'm pretty sure we don't get Discovery HD yet...I've been waiting for it for a long time now.

slumpey326

11-01-08, 03:05 PM

I meant HD Theater, are your channels working

mikeM1

11-01-08, 03:59 PM

TBH, I do not think you missed much. I do not recall a time since 701 went live where a news broadcast or programming on NY 1 was in true HD. All I ever see are sidebars saying NY 1.

Yes Tony, you are right about that, but...it's STILL BLANK as of Sat late afternoon...very weird. :(

Everything else that i normally check is working.

TonyNYC

11-01-08, 05:01 PM

Yes Tony, you are right about that, but...it's STILL BLANK as of Sat late afternoon...very weird. :(

Everything else that i normally check is working.

A lot of those newer channels that went live in HD are still blank to me. Not sure what is going on of late with TWC and their game plan with the channels. I am just going to wait it out. At least I am out of town a lot on business. Hopefully one night I will be home to see all the channels working properly.

DNINE

11-01-08, 06:33 PM

I'm on the UWS no problems today.

slumpey326

11-01-08, 06:35 PM

all restored, dont know what happened but all I know now is that the Gators are kicking some bulldog butt:D

broadwayblue

11-01-08, 09:02 PM

Crap...I lost my MSG HD feed. Worse, I was recording the Rangers/Leafs game and it cut out in the middle. I didn't find out until about an hour later, when I got to the point in the recording where it stopped (during the first intermission)...then the box froze and rebooted. After trying to get the box to start recording again twice with no success, I tuned to the station live to find a gray screen. Now I'm watching live on 27, but I missed the whole second period. :(

Berk32

11-01-08, 10:12 PM

DNINE

11-01-08, 10:28 PM

I spoke to soon CMax HD & StazHD HDTH are out

Berk32

11-01-08, 10:48 PM

MSG, HD Theater, and Cinemax are all out for me - not coincidentally, they are all on the same QAM frequency (i also tried recording the game... only made it about an hour)

they're back now...

thetoad

11-02-08, 10:37 AM

they're back now...

but now encrypted

Berk32

11-02-08, 11:23 AM

but now encrypted

if they had been briefly unencrypted - perhaps that explains why they suddenly disappeared for 2 hours... someone screwed up something and they had to fix it

Straphanger

11-02-08, 12:36 PM

MaxHD, MSGHD, and HD Theater are still on QAM in Queens. Though I lost nearly everything in the 50's including NY1 HD.

Kelly From KOMO

11-02-08, 04:54 PM

For those who are interested, I just updated this weeks blog at:http//www.dtvrules.com. At the top of the page clink on the blog link for more. The topic this week: "Cable Being Deceptive??"

AndyHDTV

11-02-08, 06:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9bnuYB6go8

mikeM1

11-02-08, 07:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9bnuYB6go8

I saw that big red-haired guy waiting on the subway platform the other day. 14th St.

mikepier

11-02-08, 09:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9bnuYB6go8

I like the little disclaimer they put at the bottom " Your home team will be available on a local channel"

KJShearer

11-03-08, 07:49 AM

Big Ten Network is on QAM 76-2 in standard def in the Hudson Valley. But, nowhere to be found on digital cable.

Gooddog

11-03-08, 09:39 AM

Big Ten Network is on QAM 76-2 in standard def in the Hudson Valley. But, nowhere to be found on digital cable.

TWC changed the upcoming channel rollout for 11-19. they removed most of the previously announced HD adds and added Big Ten.

I was curious to see if TWC removed analog channels from the area (in Orange Co). When I plug the cable directly in to the TV I receive channels 2 – 13 only. Do you have the same results?

KJShearer

11-03-08, 10:06 AM

All of the TV's I own have digital tuners in them, the one I have hooked up only via the cable is the one I found the Big Ten network on, and it looks like all other channels are still there.

MikeDNYC

11-03-08, 12:49 PM

i was told that in certain areas it was still in test mode and the IT is working on it, so that is why it is still blank, even tho it shows up in the guide.. who knows what monkey biz is going on over there..
p.s i am using the 8300hdc what about you, dont think that has something to do with it but who knows..

Same channels are blank for me as well, I'm in Middle Village....although HistHD is back

JeffMoney

11-03-08, 01:31 PM

Same channels are blank for me as well, I'm in Middle Village....although HistHD is back

yes HistHD & A&E are back, but most of the new ones like i said before are still out, i was told that is because we are not suppose to get it get like bigtenhd even tho it says queens are suppose too and that is where i am , and talking to cus.service at twc is like talking to a wall..good luck..

MikeDNYC

11-03-08, 01:46 PM

yes HistHD & A&E are back, but most of the new ones like i said before are still out, i was told that is because we are not suppose to get it get like bigtenhd even tho it says queens are suppose too and that is where i am , and talking to cus.service at twc is like talking to a wall..good luck..

Well I'm wondering why some of the HBO HDs (only 652-654), FX HD, Cartoon HD and Speed HD still have no video. They claim it's a Queens wide problem yet I know people in Astoria who have them. Never had a problem with new channels being added until this new update, not sure what's going on with them

jcc

11-03-08, 06:03 PM

This was in today's Wall Street Journal:

"Cable-television operators must continue to carry the same broadcast channels that over-the-air viewers receive once those stations make their federally mandated conversion to digital signals in February, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled Friday.

Under the Federal Communications Commission's requirement, cable operators must either switch to all-digital systems, or carry both the digital and analog signals of local stations in the first three years after the February 2009 conversion. Millions of cable customers have only the most basic service, sometimes with boxes that receive only traditional analog signals, which take up far more bandwidth than digital signals.

"Today's action preserves the commission's decision to protect consumers and prevents cable companies from either choosing to cut off signals of must-carry broadcast stations after the digital conversion, or requiring customers to purchase higher-priced packages with set-top boxes to receive the same analog channels in digital," said Kevin Martin, chairman of the FCC, in a statement.

Some cable programmers argued that the FCC's order would make it harder for them to gain access to cable systems if both analog and digital signals of local stations had to be offered. Cable operators could say there wasn't room for niche channels with the addition of bandwidth-clogging analog signals.

The programmers also said their First Amendment rights of free speech would be violated.

But in its decision Friday, the D.C. Court said the programmers hadn't met the burden of proving that they would be harmed by the mandate. In her majority opinion, Judge Judith Rogers said the programmers' case faltered because they couldn't cite an example of a cable operator who isn't either already using all-digital operations or moving in that direction. She said the FCC has found that "virtually all cable operators" ultimately will have all-digital systems, which would free up bandwidth."

Hopefully, us QAM users will have the correct channels real soon!

disafan

11-04-08, 03:09 PM

I'm unsure of what that article has to do with us getting correct QAM channels, much as I'd love them.

To go by strictest interpretation, according to...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLibrary/4/50/Content%20Management/Programming/CLUs/0708%20011-Chan_BQ.pdf

Which is the Brooklyn/Queens channel lineup in PDF circa 7/08, we deserve unencrypted the basic service, which includes:

Azteca America, C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2, CUNY TV, Chinese Channel, Food Network, HSN, ImaginAsian, ITV, Kids Thirteen, The Korean Channel, Media Korean, WWOR, NY1, the various NYC TV channels, The Prayer Channel, QPTV/BCAT/etc., QVC, Remote Control Setup, RISE, Russia Today, ShopNBC, SpikeTV, TBS(The HD version is ironically part of standard service), Telefutura, Telemundo, TV Guide, Univision, VME, WABC SD and HD as well as its subchannels, WCBS HD and SD, WLIW, WLNY, WMBC, WNBC SD and HD as well as its subchannels, WNET SD and HD, WNYW HD and SD, WPIX HD and SD and its subchannel LATV, WPXN, WRNN, and WWOR SD and HD.

I think some of the foreign language ones have been discontinued, and the 9/18 notation about the C-Spans said that "CSPAN on ch. 147, CSPAN2 on ch. 148, and CSPAN 3 on ch. 149 will change from DTV to Basic service requiring and viewable only with a digital converter."

Which means the fact they encrypt those channels is a violation. But, it also means a previous notation about not having TNT would not be an arguable one. If you have it, be thankful they haven't noticed.

In an ideal universe, they would be required to offer Standard Service unencrypted in ClearQAM. That would add in TNT as well as the bulk of the channels most people wish they could use without a box.

Berk32

11-04-08, 03:51 PM