Not here in Queens it isn't.

In an ideal universe, they would be required to offer Standard Service unencrypted in ClearQAM. That would add in TNT as well as the bulk of the channels most people wish they could use without a box. i got a PDF that places TNT under Standard, not Basic.

Correct, TNT is Standard. I was pointing it out in reference to an earlier post about TNT no longer being available unencrypted.

Correct, TNT is Standard. I was pointing it out in reference to an earlier post about TNT no longer being available unencrypted.

wondering if it switched to standard recently? I can remember going back till 2001 (when I got cable in the NYC) that it was unscrambled on analog.

Several Standard cable stations were unscrambled on analog. I used to get Comedy Central, Sci-Fi, TLC, etc before they cut analog here in Queens

wondering if it switched to standard recently? I can remember going back till 2001 (when I got cable in the NYC) that it was unscrambled on analog.

my opinion is that TNT has become a high profile channel in the last 3-5 years.... lots of their dramas get good ratings and they just started a new one called "Raising The Bar", which will probably do well too. i guess TNT now feels that -- given the quality of their programming -- being on Basic is no longer "fair"....

In an ideal universe, they would be required to offer Standard Service unencrypted in ClearQAM. That would add in TNT as well as the bulk of the channels most people wish they could use without a box. can i new subscriber still order Basic-only service? i went to TWC's website recently and the lowest advertised tier is "Digital Starter Pak", which includes Basic and Standard. if everyone is being forced to get both, TWC should just eliminate the need for the box. as a matter of fact, there shouldnt be a need to list the 2 aforementioned packages if they must go together. sounds redundant.... so what i am saying is, for those getting the "Digital Starter Pak" (Basic + Standard), the channels should all be in ClearQAM....unless, of course, TWC still sells the Basic-only package if you call and insist.

can i new subscriber still order Basic-only service? i went to TWC's website recently and the lowest advertised tier is "Digital Starter Pak", which includes Basic and Standard. if everyone is being forced to get both, TWC should just eliminate the need for the box. as a matter of fact, there shouldnt be a need to list the 2 aforementioned packages if they must go together. sounds redundant.... so what i am saying is, for those getting the "Digital Starter Pak" (Basic + Standard), the channels should all be in ClearQAM....unless, of course, TWC still sells the Basic-only package if you call and insist.

yes - they still sell the basic-only package.

This is the issue as I understand it. The FCC has mandated that either a carrier has to carry analog basic service through 2012 or go all-digital, in which case they must provide a converter box for all customers requesting it for the first year, after which you get the privilege of paying.

So most carriers, if they go all digital, have little responsibility. There's an article dated today in Newsday...

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzcabl0512139182nov05,0,3653762.story

"The FCC announced Tuesday that it has directed 13 companies to answer questions about their process of dropping analog channels as they move to digital programming, agency spokesman Robert Kenny said..." Companies have until next week to respond.

They will still sell the basic pack. TWC should buy some basic only cable boxes they can offer without guide or such cheap to solve that problem. Verizon FIOS offers the Motorola DCT700, which is a digital converter with no guide or features that can offer cut-rate service for extra TVs at a reduced price.

Either way, cable prices up, options for consumers down. So as much as we'd love ClearQAM for all standard cable channels...not going to happen it appears, unless the FCC pressures the cable companies.

There is also another option. Comcast studied a Digital Terminal Adapter(a company called Pace had an option)...essentially a box that would take a digital signal and turn it back into analog standard cable for 30-40 channels, which would solve the problem for a lot of customers not willing to pay for upgrades, digital guides...to be honest, my grandparents barely know they have a guide.

crain's new york business.com
RCN goes digital to remain competitive

By Amanda Fung
Published: November 5, 2008 - 3:26 pm


RCN Corp. cable subscribers in certain parts of Manhattan had to have new set-top boxes hooked up to their television sets if they wanted to continue to watch election coverage past midnight Monday.

The Herndon, Va.-based regional cable provider began switching its New York City network from analog to digital last month in specific neighborhoods and expects all of its subscribers in the city to be digital by January. Customers who subscribe to RCN’s basic non-digital cable TV service will have to obtain a digital converter box to continue receiving a TV signal. The switch is unrelated to the nationwide Federal Communication Commission’s mandate that all broadcast channels be transmitted digitally by February 17.

RCN has about 100,000 subscribers in portions of Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan. The firm said a small percentage of its subscribers have the basic service.

“Our move to an all-digital network frees up bandwidth so we can provide our New York City area customers with more expanded Basic Digital TV channels than ever before," said Anthony Ontiveros, RCN vice president and New York general manager.

According to RCN, the conversion frees up spectrum on its network that enables the company to deliver up to 10 standard digital channels or three high-definition channels per analog channel. Analysts said it is a cheaper alternative to overhauling its entire cable network and is necessary for RCN to remain competitive as new entrants like Verizon Communications Inc. offer more HD channels and other features.

Other cable companies have embarked on similar digital efforts and the FCC recently launched an investigation into the shift from analog to digital. The FCC sent a letter on Oct. 30 to RCN and 10 other cable providers including Time Warner Cable and Cablevision Systems Corp. as well as Verizon asking companies to submit information within two weeks about its pricing policies and channel switching practices. The agency is examining whether companies are luring customers to upgrade to more expensive digital services. RCN said it will provide information requested by the FCC.

“I don’t see it as being deceptive,” said Bruce Leichtman of Leichtman Research Group, a cable industry research firm. “RCN is doing it to stay competitive.”

RCN partners with building owners to offer service to residents in co-ops and condominiums. It has a struck a deal with some buildings to offer the first digital converter free to subscribers. Since a converter is needed for each TV set in the home, customers who have more than one TV set have to pay $2.95 a month for each converter.

Mr. Ontiveros said RCN has been mailing notices to subscribers 30 days before their area is changed over. Subscribers are notified to obtain a converter by a certain time. Subsequent mailers are sent seven, five and one day before the shift.

“I am happy with how the switchover has gone,” said Mr. Ontiveros, noting that RCN has set up in customers’ buildings to offer equipment. “We want to make sure it is convenient and easy for residents.”
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081105/FREE/811059965/1064&category=FREE&nocache=1

This is the issue as I understand it. The FCC has mandated that either a carrier has to carry analog basic service through 2012 or go all-digital, in which case they must provide a converter box for all customers requesting it for the first year, after which you get the privilege of paying.



Not entirely true. Subscribers MUST be able to tune to broadcast channels with JUST their digital TV tuners. That is, WITHOUT additional equipment from cable co.

About time now all of my new HD channels work, from oct. 22 new HD channels , so its about time they fixed it, lets see what will be the 17 new ones coming by year end..

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/06/mgm-hd-replacing-mojo-hd-on-time-warner-cable-in-raleigh-nc/

If only in NY. MGM HD isn't everything, but it is a channel full of movies. Some of which I might want to watch. I can respect that.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/06/mgm-hd-replacing-mojo-hd-on-time-warner-cable-in-raleigh-nc/

This has been happening in many regions for the last month or so....

I've been expecting a NY announcement for a while.... surprised there hasn't been one yet.....

Has anyone gone from RCN to TWC? I am thinking about moving to RCN from TWC for their HD lineup now that they have killed all their analog channels and ramped up their HD offerings. However, I am hesitant to go because TWC keeps claiming that they will have 75 or 100, or whatever number of HD stations by the end of the year. I'm in Lower Manhattan and have only seen new stations come online in drips and drabs.

Below is the HD lineup for RCN. They are also offering me a much better deal, at least for the first year (Internet @ 20Mbs, Cable with all the premium movies and a DVR for about $110/mo., which is around $50 cheaper than what I pay TWC now without Starz and the Movie Channel).

My building is also supposedly in negotiations with Verizon for Fios, but who knows how long that will last.

Lastly, I'm a sports nut and no MSG HD, MSG+ HD, NHL HD, NBA TV with Fios is a huge letdown. Any word on whether TWC will get NFL Network HD, NBA TV HD, and NHL HD in So. Manhattan?

Thanks, any advice would be much appreciated.

RCN HD: Line up:

WCBS HD
WNBC HD
WNYW HD (Fox)
WABC HD
WWOR HD (MY 9)
WPIX HD (CW)
WNET HD (Thirteen)
A&E HD
TBS HD
TNT HD
FX HD
Animal Planet HD
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
ABC Family HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
Planet Green HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
CNN HD
Fox News HD
Fox Business News HD
The Weather Channel HD
Travel Channel HD
Discovery Channel HD
History HD
TLC HD
BIO HD
National Geographic Channel HD
Science Channel HD
ESPNU HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
ESPNEWS HD
SportsNet New York HD
YES HD
Speed HD
NFL Network HD
VERSUS HD
NHL HD
GOLF HD
HBO HD
HBO Family HD
HBO 2 HD
HBO Signature HD
HBO Zone HD
HBO Comedy HD
Cinemax HD
Moremax HD
Actionmax HD
Showtime HD
Showtime TOO HD
TMC HD
Starz HD
Starz Kids HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Comedy HD
Discovery HD Theater
Smithsonian HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
MGM HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD

Anyone experiencing signal issues.
Max HD and Starz HD have been tiling and the sound cutting in and out for quite some time now.
When I call CS Rep sees the same thing yet they send a tech out.
Headend issue I would think.

Has anyone gone from RCN to TWC? I am thinking about moving to RCN from TWC for their HD lineup now that they have killed all their analog channels and ramped up their HD offerings. However, I am hesitant to go because TWC keeps claiming that they will have 75 or 100, or whatever number of HD stations by the end of the year. I'm in Lower Manhattan and have only seen new stations come online in drips and drabs.

Below is the HD lineup for RCN. They are also offering me a much better deal, at least for the first year (Internet @ 20Mbs, Cable with all the premium movies and a DVR for about $110/mo., which is around $50 cheaper than what I pay TWC now without Starz and the Movie Channel).

My building is also supposedly in negotiations with Verizon for Fios, but who knows how long that will last.

Lastly, I'm a sports nut and no MSG HD, MSG+ HD, NHL HD, NBA TV with Fios is a huge letdown. Any word on whether TWC will get NFL Network HD, NBA TV HD, and NHL HD in So. Manhattan?

Thanks, any advice would be much appreciated.

RCN HD: Line up:

WCBS HD
WNBC HD
WNYW HD (Fox)
WABC HD
WWOR HD (MY 9)
WPIX HD (CW)
WNET HD (Thirteen)
A&E HD
TBS HD
TNT HD
FX HD
Animal Planet HD
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
ABC Family HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
Planet Green HD
Disney Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
CNN HD
Fox News HD
Fox Business News HD
The Weather Channel HD
Travel Channel HD
Discovery Channel HD
History HD
TLC HD
BIO HD
National Geographic Channel HD
Science Channel HD
ESPNU HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
ESPNEWS HD
SportsNet New York HD
YES HD
Speed HD
NFL Network HD
VERSUS HD
NHL HD
GOLF HD
HBO HD
HBO Family HD
HBO 2 HD
HBO Signature HD
HBO Zone HD
HBO Comedy HD
Cinemax HD
Moremax HD
Actionmax HD
Showtime HD
Showtime TOO HD
TMC HD
Starz HD
Starz Kids HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Comedy HD
Discovery HD Theater
Smithsonian HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
MGM HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD

I would stay with RCN for now if I were you. Manhattan does not have nearly as many channels as you listed on RCN. We are still waiting to catch up with the other boroughs and we really do not know exactly when that will happen, maybe by the end of the year but there is no official word on that at this time

I have been searching in the thread, as I am sure this has been answered, but come up empty- I have just received my "Fios is Negotiating with my building" e-mail. I would like to continue TWC when I have Fios installed. In terms of installation, wiring, etc, is there any reason why they both can't be hooked up at the same time?

Thanks-

finally can see all the channels that were added back near the end of Oct. now just waiting for Spike/USA HD. lol. and yea i wish NY1 was working last friday for the Halloween parade too

Has anyone had any luck getting their bill lowered by TWC?
I currently pay about 170 per month for two dvr's , internet and 3 premium channels.
I tried calling them up and canceling hoping they would ask why I wanted to cancel and lower my bill a bit but the guy just said fine we'll send over a technician.
Has anyone had any luck by saying they are switching to fios?
What am I doing wrong?

I just got some money taken off and am paying $29.95 for the standard internet service. The only reason why I got this discount was because the stupid engineers don't want to work on my area because my area is not "overloaded." My internet doesn't go over 1000kbps after 8pm.

EDIT: Didn't realize this was for the missing channels.

I dont really have any issues besides it being to expensive so your situation probably won't work for me.

I've heard people getting 30-40 dollars knocked off their bill just for asking.
I got the cold shoulder. Perhaps I should call again?

Did you tell them you were Canceling because a better deal came along? If so I would follow it through as much as you can. Ask for a Supervisor explain you would like to keep TW but Joes Cable is 20 percent less, don't be afraid to tell them you want a better deal.
I can say all this but waiting on hold for a "supervisor" with those dimwits at TW makes my head hurt. Seeing we don't have a choice at this time (which they might know) says it all.

Meanwhile are we going to get any any more HD ch's by the end of the year? Are they still saying 100 HD? Anyone hear anything new?

What's left to give NYC that they have contracts for? Again, I mean the outer boros. I know Manhattan deserves to match us, but that is coming,

There is MGM HD, but that is likely to take the place of Mojo, as many have said, which is still not a net increase. They don't have contracts for USA HD and Sci-Fi HD, despite demand.

There may be additional sports networks, but to be honest, I'm not a real sports buff.

There are things like AMC HD, Spike HD, Nick HD, etc, I suppose. Anyone have a list of what they can offer we don't have?

What's left to give NYC that they have contracts for? Again, I mean the outer boros. I know Manhattan deserves to match us, but that is coming,

There is MGM HD, but that is likely to take the place of Mojo, as many have said, which is still not a net increase. They don't have contracts for USA HD and Sci-Fi HD, despite demand.

There may be additional sports networks, but to be honest, I'm not a real sports buff.

There are things like AMC HD, Spike HD, Nick HD, etc, I suppose. Anyone have a list of what they can offer we don't have?

TWC national thread

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328

So...that leaves, if I read correctly...

Fuse-HD(In S.I. only so far, I think)
Crime and Investigation HD
Sleuth-HD(Launch TBA)
TV-One-HD(Launch Q4 2008)
MGM HD

For non-sports at least. We seem to have all the premium HDs, or supposed to. I heard some people have had trouble with that(Still acknowledging Manhattan is being shorted).

So, assuming that, do they have enough channels they haven't offered to have 100 by year's end unless they finalize some deals?

On the UES and my cable and internet were down for most of Thursday for no apparent reason. Then today I noticed I am getting insane fast download speeds - 28mbps down and 500k up. Couldn't believe it. I know RR is adding Turbo or whatever they call it. It costs extra and I definitely didn't request it.

Anyone else notice anything?

If I can get what SI has I would be be content for now. I don't need any more Sports. Manhattan hasn't gotten any new HD Ch's in a long time.

So...that leaves, if I read correctly...

Fuse-HD(In S.I. only so far, I think)
Crime and Investigation HD
Sleuth-HD(Launch TBA)
TV-One-HD(Launch Q4 2008)
MGM HD

For non-sports at least. We seem to have all the premium HDs, or supposed to. I heard some people have had trouble with that(Still acknowledging Manhattan is being shorted).

So, assuming that, do they have enough channels they haven't offered to have 100 by year's end unless they finalize some deals?

Here's some more we should be looking out for:

-4 more via the Comcast networks launching 12/8 (Versus/Golf-HD splitting in 2, G4, E!, Style)
-NBATVHD (Mojo had games.... but now its needed)
-MLBHD (launches 1/1/09)
-Viacom Networks should be available eventually... once a deal between them and Time Warner Cable is reached.... (County Music Channel, Nickelodeon, MTV, VH1, Spike)
-Same with NBC-Universal (Sci-Fi, Bravo, USA, CNBC)
-and the Rainbow Media (Cablevision) owned (WE, AMC, IFC, Fuse)

Hey guys, what is the TWC North/South cutoff again? I know it's 86th St on the East side, but forgot which street it is on the West side. Thanks.

Hey guys, what is the TWC North/South cutoff again? I know it's 86th St on the East side, but forgot which street it is on the West side. Thanks.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLibrary/4/50/Content%20Management/Products%20And%20Services/documents/0908-RP-MN.pdf


86th east / 79th west

Thanks for the tip...wasn't sure about the West side. My buddy makes the North zone by a few blocks, which is a good thing I assume, as he's also waiting for more HD.

I have been searching in the thread, as I am sure this has been answered, but come up empty- I have just received my "Fios is Negotiating with my building" e-mail. I would like to continue TWC when I have Fios installed. In terms of installation, wiring, etc, is there any reason why they both can't be hooked up at the same time?

Thanks-
If you are taking FiOS TV service alongside your TWC service, it will require all-new coaxial runs from your Fiber box to your television. If you are NOT taking FiOS TV service (but are taking FiOS Internet or phone) then they will run new Ethernet to your computer in order to provide Internet service, but will otherwise leave your TWC coax wiring alone.

On the UES and my cable and internet were down for most of Thursday for no apparent reason. Then today I noticed I am getting insane fast download speeds - 28mbps down and 500k up. Couldn't believe it. I know RR is adding Turbo or whatever they call it. It costs extra and I definitely didn't request it.

Anyone else notice anything?

What speeds do you get using these measuring sites?

http://www.giganews.com/test_connect.html

http://www2.verizon.net/micro/speedtest/hsi/

NY: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

A_C

From Fredfa's "Hot Off The Press" thread:

The Business of Television
MGM HD Ink’s Carriage Pact With AT&T’s U-verse
Deal Gives HD Movie Channel Another Key Distribution Partner
By Linda Moss, Multichannel News - November 10, 2008

MGM HD is marking its first anniversary by landing a carriage deal with AT&T’s U-verse service, and by picking up distribution on cable systems that have been carrying Mojo HD, which is going dark next month.

“The bandwidth became available and we went out there and basically raised our hands and said, ‘Take us,’” said Doug Lee, executive vice president of worldwide digital media for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios. “We’ve got big movies on our service. It looked like a good HD replacement.”

With its new AT&T pact, MGM HD now has affiliation deals with all the major distributors, namely DirecTV, Dish Network, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Verizon and Bright House Networks, according to Lee.

Starting Monday, U-verse TV will offer MGM HD, which launched Oct. 10 last year, as part of the service’s HD premium package, a new tier that can be added to an HD subscription for an additional $5 a month. AT&T U-verse TV HD service is available for $10 a month with any U-verse programming package.

“It’s another nationwide distributor for us,” Lee said of MGM HD’s new U-verse agreement. “It’s a nationwide deal. As they grow, we’re going to be on an HD tier with them. So it’s not their full sub base.”

The AT&T deal follows on the heels of Verizon starting its rollout last month of MGM HD, which offers a library of classic and contemporary films in HD, 1080i.

Last month, AT&T announced that it was bolstering its HD basic offering, adding 30 new HD networks, taking it to more than 75 channels.

In addition to its new AT&T affiliation deal, MGM HD is seizing the opportunity presented by the demise of Mojo HD, the male-targeted service that is being shut down in December by In Demand Networks, which is owned by Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Cox Communications.

When MGM HD heard that Mojo was going to be shut down, its affiliate sales force approached Time Warner systems about getting the soon-to-be-defunct network’s slot, according to Lee. He expects MGM HD to pick up close to 1 million of Mojo HD’s former homes.

“A lot of Time Warner systems have the bandwidth to accommodate an earlier launch for us now,” Lee said. “In a lot of systems that were probably going to launch us next year, almost all those launches moved up to fourth quarter this year.”

Lee declined to comment on how many total subscribers MGM HD has now, but he claimed that the network is at twice its original projections. He’s also hopeful that Time Warner will launch MGM HD in New York City and Los Angeles by the end of the year.

MGM HD is still talking to cable operators it doesn’t have deals with, such as Cox Communications, Charter Communications, Cablevision Systems and the National Cable Television Cooperative, according to Lee.

This year is the first CTAM conference that MGM HD is participating in, and it was set to co-host a screening of the new James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace, this past Sunday in Boston.

MGM is partners with Viacom’s Paramount Pictures and Lionsgate in a new premium network set to launch next fall. MGM and the joint venture partners, Studio 3 Partners, were co-sponsoring the Bond movie sneak peak at CTAM.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6612166.html

about time..

Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens, Mount Vernon

November 7, 2008

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future:

Azteca America, BBC on Demand, Chinese Channel, Chinese Cinema, Encore, Encore Action, Encore Drama, Encore Love, Encore Mystery, Encore Western, Encore WAM, Fuel TV, Great American Country (GAC), Game Show Network, HITN, NBA TV, NHL Network, Oxygen on Demand, Sci Fi Channel, Showtime, Showtime Beyond, Showtime Extreme, Showtime Family, Showtime Next, Showtime ShowCase, Showtime Too, Sleuth, Starz, Starz in Black, Starz Cinema, Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, Starz Kids & Family, Supercanal, The Movie Channel, The Movie Channel Xtra, The Arabic Channel, RTVi, RAI, NGTV, TV Japan, Universal HD, USA Network, and WNBC.

In addition from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned for customers in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, and Mt. Vernon:

We have just been notified by the program provider of NBA programming that it has decided, effective November 10th, to discontinue its NBA Preview channel, the promotional barker channel currently being carried on basic service on channel 400. Further, the program provider has decided, effective November 11th, to feature additional NBA League Pass Games on Channel 410 as part of their NBA League Pass Sports Package. Please also be advised that Team HD, which we formerly notified you would be added to Channel 410, will now be added to Channel 411, effective December 17th.

Effective November 19th: In Manhattan: We will add additional channel positions for the following premium services: HBO HD will now appear only on 780 and 651, Cinemax HD on 776 and 658, Starz HD on 777 and676, and Showtime HD will now appear on 779 and 666.

Effective December 8th: In Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens: Prayer Channel on 97 will be renamed The NET.

Effective December 17th: In Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, and Mt. Vernon We will launch Crossings TV on channel 503 for digital tier customers; Discovery Familia on 870, Cine Mexicano on 871, TV Colombia on 872 and Latele Novela on 873 for DTV en Español customers; NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers and TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers. VS/Golf HD on 794 will change to VS HD.

In Manhattan: HBO HD will now appear only on 651, Cinemax HD on 658, Starz HD on 676, and Showtime HD will now only appear on 666. In Manhattan and Mount Vernon: We will launch HD Movies on Demand on 700 which will be available on the following set-top boxes: Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC. In Brooklyn and Queens: We will launch the previously announced Korean Christian Television on ch. 533. In Northern Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens: We will launch Golf HD on 779, Crime and Investigation HD on 686, Africa Channel HD on 787, TV One HD on 790, G4HD on 692, MGM HD on 796, Chiller HD on 684, Sleuth HD on 685, Style HD on 689, Fuse HD on 691, Nick HD on 706, Lifetime HD on 712, CNBC HD on 715, USA HD on 716, SciFi HD on 717, Bravo HD on 718, E! HD on 724, QVC HD on 733, Spike HD on 736, HSN HD on 739.

Additionally, in Northern Manhattan we will launch Tennis HD on 465, Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports on 467, HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More Max HD on 659, Action Max HD on 660, Thriller Max HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, FiveStar Max on 664, Outer Max HD on 665, Sho 2 HD on 667, Showcase HD on 668, Sho Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 674, TMC Xtra HD on 675, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, Starz Comedy HD on 681, Encore HD on 682, NY1 HD on 701, Palladia HD on 720, Cartoon HD on 722, FX HD on 737, ABC Family HD on 738, History HD on 740, Fox Business News HD on 743, Fox News HD on 744, A&E HD on 746, Disney HD on 749, Learning Channel HD on 752, Toon Disney HD on 760, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 762, Biography HD on 763, Discovery HD on 766, Planet Green HD on 768, Weather Channel HD on 772, Speed HD on 774, Science Channel HD on 775, Travel Channel HD on 788, ESPN News HD on 792, ESPN U HD on 793; Game HD on 791 & 445 for MLB an NHL package customers and NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers

In Mount Vernon: Universal HD will move from ch. 734 to 718. We will also launch Ovation on 83, Crime & Investigation HD on 686, G4HD on 692, Golf HD on 779, Africa Channel HD on 787, TV One HD on 790, MGM HD on 796, Chiller HD on 684, Sleuth HD on 685, Style HD on 689, Fuse HD on 691, QVC HD on 724, CNBC HD on 733, Spike HD on 734, Nick HD on 739, E! HD on 741, USA HD on 742, Lifetime HD on 743, SciFi HD on 744, Bravo HD on 746, and HSN HD on 772.

Please note that the launch and availability of the services indicated in BOLD are entirely contingent upon contractual negotiations. Accordingly, it is possible that the specified service may not launch on this date.

The previously announced launch of FUSE HD in Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon has been postponed. The previously announced launch of Tennis Channel HD, in these same systems, occurred on 10/22.

Additionally, in Northern Manhattan we will launch Tennis HD on 465, Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports on 467, HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More Max HD on 659, Action Max HD on 660, Thriller Max HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, FiveStar Max on 664, Outer Max HD on 665, Sho 2 HD on 667, Showcase HD on 668, Sho Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 674, TMC Xtra HD on 675, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, Starz Comedy HD on 681, Encore HD on 682, NY1 HD on 701, Palladia HD on 720, Cartoon HD on 722, FX HD on 737, ABC Family HD on 738, History HD on 740, Fox Business News HD on 743, Fox News HD on 744, A&E HD on 746, Disney HD on 749, Learning Channel HD on 752, Toon Disney HD on 760, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 762, Biography HD on 763, Discovery HD on 766, Planet Green HD on 768, Weather Channel HD on 772, Speed HD on 774, Science Channel HD on 775, Travel Channel HD on 788, ESPN News HD on 792, ESPN U HD on 793; Game HD on 791 & 445 for MLB an NHL package customers and NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers

Good news for northern manhattan.....but what about the rest of us who live below 86th street/79th street????!!!

WOW.
If all this is going down in December then it it obvious that there is no time to get Southern Manhattan up to speed before the end of the year. I guess they are doing what RCN is doing and are hopefully aiming for Feb. I better start seeing some analogs disappering next month here in Man. South.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:D:D:D

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:mad::mad::mad:
(yes, I live in Manhattan South).

gotta do it twice

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Booooooo... aww, screw it!
:(:(:(

Anyone still wondering if we'll have 100 HD channels by the end of the year?

:D :D :D

don't worry, southern manhattan, it will probably only be a few weeks later (just keep looking out for analog channels being removed... once that happens, you'll know it won't be long)

Nice

don't worry, southern manhattan, it will probably only be a few weeks later (just keep looking out for analog channels being removed... once that happens, you'll know it won't be long)

This is really unfair, everyone gets tons of HD Channels except S. Manhattan.

Kind of funny that TWC didn't give it crap about giving us HD and now all of a sudden with Fios coming, they're scrambling. I can't wait until I get the chance to tell TWC to go F$%! themselves when I switch services. They deserve it!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:D:D:D

Quoted for Truth. Happy days in a month and a week. Hopefully the deals in bold will be signed.

Kind of funny that TWC didn't give it crap about giving us HD and now all of a sudden with Fios coming, they're scrambling. I can't wait until I get the chance to tell TWC to go F$%! themselves when I switch services. They deserve it!

'to be fair'.... this process took over 2 years....

TWC NY/NJ covers ALOT of customers.... many using the oldest cable system in the country... much of which is underground


it's going to take FiOS another 5+ years to be able to service the entire region.

'to be fair'.... this process took over 2 years....

TWC NY/NJ covers ALOT of customers.... many using the oldest cable system in the country... much of which is underground


it's going to take FiOS another 5+ years to be able to service the entire region.

I am just really tired of waiting. It seems like S. Manhattan has the worst HD lineup in the nation when it should have one of the best. If they would just give us some kind of time frame that would be helpful. :(

Hudson Valley

November 7, 2008

...................
In addition from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned for customers in Hudson Valley:

We have just been notified by the program provider of NBA programming that it has decided, effective November 10th, to discontinue its NBA Preview channel, the promotional barker channel currently being carried on basic service on channel 400. Further, the program provider has decided, effective November 11th, to feature additional NBA League Pass Games on Channel 410 as part of their NBA League Pass Sports Package. Please also be advised that Team HD, which we formerly notified you would be added to Channel 410, will now be added to Channel 411, effective December 17th.

We are in the process of negotiating with WBNG, WTEN, WRGB and WBRE so that effective December 17th, or shortly thereafter, they will no longer be carried in analog format on the systems in our Hudson Valley region on which they are currently carried, but will remain available in the clear on the basic tier to customers with digital capable equipment or digital televisions with QAM tuners. However, if we are unable to reach an agreement for digital carriage, it is currently our intention to continue our carriage of these services until December 31st, or shortly thereafter, at which time we may discontinue our carriage of these services.

Effective November 19th: The previously announced HD channel additions for this date have been revised. The services launching on that date are as follows: CNN HD on 716, Discovery HD on 715 and Animal Planet HD on 779.

Effective December 17th: We will launch Crossings TV on channel 503 for digital tier customers; Discovery Familia on 870, Cine Mexicano on 871, TV Colombia on 872 and Latele Novela on 873 for DTV en Español customers; NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers and TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers . VS/Golf HD on 773 will change to Golf HD. EWTN will move from 28 to 59. We will launch A&E HD on 729, Speed HD on 786, TLC HD on 739, Versus HD on 781, Weather Channel HD on 735, Big Ten Network HD on 472,USA HD on 730, Nick HD on 732, History HD on 748, Science HD on 777, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 752 and Disney HD on 738

Please note that the launch and availability of the services indicated in BOLD are entirely contingent upon contractual negotiations. Accordingly, it is possible that the specified service may not launch on this date.

Also occurring on December 17th: In Kingston, Woodstock, Poughkeepsie and Rhinebeck: WNYW on channels 3 & 5 will only be available on channel 5. In New Paltz: WRGB channel 20 will move to channel 8 and SUNY NP channel 8 will move to 20. In Port Jervis, Monticello and Tusten: WYOU will no longer be available on ch. 8.

AWESOME!

THANK YOU VERIZON FOR MAKING THIS ALL POSSIBLE!!!

Anyone actually count how many channels are being added? It's like I'll be going from 32 to 82 overnight. I won't complain for lack of missing HD channels for a month, I promise. ;)

Too bad they still can't fix their internet.

I am looking to upgrade my 2 Scientific Atlantic 8300 HD DVR's to one of the 3 newer models (Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC) that will allow me to view the upcomming HD on Demand channel. Can anyone share their experience or opinion on which of the 3 models is best?

I am looking to upgrade my 2 Scientific Atlantic 8300 HD DVR's to one of the 3 newer models (Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC) that will allow me to view the upcomming HD on Demand channel. Can anyone share their experience or opinion on which of the 3 models is best?

i have an 8300hdc with navigator.

its buggy and slow, but i like how it handles conflicts. for me, pip is buggy. if i swap the pic 2-3 times, the box gets confused. by slow, it some times takes a sec ot two for the box to respond to remote commands. it doesnt always happen, so it isnt something i get used to.

I knew it that it was coming, now why they are adding QVC HD please. the good news is that we are going to get all the NBC universal channels yesssss...

I knew it that it was coming, now why they are adding QVC HD please.

Because they're adding everything there is at this point

the good news is that we are going to get all the NBC universal channels yesssss...

hopefully

So they decided to add NBATVHD on the HDextra package insteade of MGNHD which will basically a basic HD channel, that is good n ews.

So they decided to add NBATVHD on the HDextra package insteade of MGNHD which will basically a basic HD channel, that is good n ews.

the entire sports package is included in the HD Extra package - thats why NBATVHD is being added to it.

and its not 100% clear what level MGM will be added at.

I am looking to upgrade my 2 Scientific Atlantic 8300 HD DVR's to one of the 3 newer models (Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC) that will allow me to view the upcomming HD on Demand channel. Can anyone share their experience or opinion on which of the 3 models is best?

TWC is also testing a new Samsung HD-DVR called the SMT-H3090.

Because they're adding everything there is at this point

Speaking of everything...is there anything that wasn't included in the list of soon to be added channels?

Speaking of everything...is there anything that wasn't included in the list of soon to be added channels?

All but 2 channels TWC has known rights to is listed (missing Outdoor Channel and WealthTV)

As for anything else that exists.... lets see...

The Voom channels.... (don't get your hopes up on seeing those)
No MTV, Country Music TV, or VH1 (no TWC region has them - but we are getting other Viacom channels Spike and Nickelodeon)
AMC/IFC/We (Rainbow Media/Cablevision) also not listed, but i believe some of their little HD content is on HD OnDemand Showcase anyways.
Fueltv HD (I'm just going thru the list)
MavTV
NFL Network
Smithsonian Channel
WGN
and maybe a few other channels I've never heard of...

BTW: I hope they add History International & Biography SD on Dec 17 in N. Manhattan. Not so I could watch Biography SD but see what History International is all about.

What's going to happen with the HBO, SHO...etc On Demand Ch's ?

BTW: I hope they add History International & Biography SD on Dec 17 in N. Manhattan. Not so I could watch Biography SD but see what History International is all about.

Well they're already sending it out.... They are fully accessible via diagnostic mode and tuning in to the right QAM frequency and ch#.... I don't understand why they don't just add it to the lineup....

What's going to happen with the HBO, SHO...etc On Demand Ch's ?

what do you mean?

right now there are no plans for HD on Demand from them (unless its included on HD Showcase OnDemand)

I can't believe I'm paying $106/month on channels that we won't be getting below (southern manhattan, I guess zip code 10017 fits into S. Manhattan).
Why the love for Northern Manhattan and none for Southern Manhattan?

They had the audacity to call to try to bump me into thier 2 year lock up, I said no-way.


"Effective December 17th: In Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, and Mt. Vernon We will launch Crossings TV on channel 503 for digital tier customers; Discovery Familia on 870, Cine Mexicano on 871, TV Colombia on 872 and Latele Novela on 873 for DTV en Español customers; NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers and TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers. VS/Golf HD on 794 will change to VS HD.

In Manhattan: HBO HD will now appear only on 651, Cinemax HD on 658, Starz HD on 676, and Showtime HD will now only appear on 666. In Manhattan and Mount Vernon: We will launch HD Movies on Demand on 700 which will be available on the following set-top boxes: Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC. In Brooklyn and Queens: We will launch the previously announced Korean Christian Television on ch. 533. In Northern Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens: We will launch Golf HD on 779, Crime and Investigation HD on 686, Africa Channel HD on 787, TV One HD on 790, G4HD on 692, MGM HD on 796, Chiller HD on 684, Sleuth HD on 685, Style HD on 689, Fuse HD on 691, Nick HD on 706, Lifetime HD on 712, CNBC HD on 715, USA HD on 716, SciFi HD on 717, Bravo HD on 718, E! HD on 724, QVC HD on 733, Spike HD on 736, HSN HD on 739.

Additionally, in Northern Manhattan we will launch Tennis HD on 465, Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports on 467, HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More Max HD on 659, Action Max HD on 660, Thriller Max HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, FiveStar Max on 664, Outer Max HD on 665, Sho 2 HD on 667, Showcase HD on 668, Sho Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 674, TMC Xtra HD on 675, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, Starz Comedy HD on 681, Encore HD on 682, NY1 HD on 701, Palladia HD on 720, Cartoon HD on 722, FX HD on 737, ABC Family HD on 738, History HD on 740, Fox Business News HD on 743, Fox News HD on 744, A&E HD on 746, Disney HD on 749, Learning Channel HD on 752, Toon Disney HD on 760, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 762, Biography HD on 763, Discovery HD on 766, Planet Green HD on 768, Weather Channel HD on 772, Speed HD on 774, Science Channel HD on 775, Travel Channel HD on 788, ESPN News HD on 792, ESPN U HD on 793; Game HD on 791 & 445 for MLB an NHL package customers and NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers"

I am looking to upgrade my 2 Scientific Atlantic 8300 HD DVR's to one of the 3 newer models (Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC) that will allow me to view the upcomming HD on Demand channel. Can anyone share their experience or opinion on which of the 3 models is best?

Why would you upgrade into these models?. I'll bet they will charge $5/rental. You are better off going with Netflix.

I can't believe I'm paying $106/month on channels that we won't be getting below (southern manhattan, I guess zip code 10017 fits into S. Manhattan).
Why the love for Northern Manhattan and none for Southern Manhattan?

They had the audacity to call to try to bump me into thier 2 year lock up, I said no-way.


Be patient at this point...

Southern Manhattan is basically the oldest cable system in the country. They been working on upgrading the system for 2+ years. It should only be a few more weeks after the northern half of manhattan

Why would you upgrade into these models?. I'll bet they will charge $5/rental. You are better off going with Netflix.

There are 2 HD OnDemand channels.
1 is free, and has all sorts of TV content.
1 is PPV.

and im sure most would not be better off going to netflix if they dont rent movies more than a few times a month

umm... what?

Movies on Demand HD (Channel 700): I don't see the price on the rental, but I bet it will be $5 or $6 per movie.

Movies on Demand HD (Channel 700): I don't see the price on the rental, but I bet it will be $5 or $6 per movie.

yes its $5 per movie, what exactly is your point?

There are 2 HD OnDemand channels.
1 is free, and has all sorts of TV content.
1 is PPV.

and im sure most would not be better off going to netflix if they dont rent movies more than a few times a month

yes its $5 per movie, what exactly is your point?

Better off going with Netflix, just watch lots of movies, worth the $13/month. I manage to avg 7 movies/month. So $13 dividend by 7 or 8 movies. Do the math.

That's my point.

Kind Regards

Better off going with Netflix, just watch lots of movies, worth the $13/month. I manage to avg 7 movies/month. So $13 dividend by 7 or 8 movies. Do the math.

That's my point.

Kind Regards

'Math' is one thing.
most people dont plan out their movie watching in advance and dont want to wait for the dvd to arrive in the mail...


Also, we're talking about HD here...

How many people are gonna go out and buy Blu-Ray players at this point? Thats another big $$ you haven't taken into consideration.

Blu-ray players are now under $200 if you know where to look for them.

And the PQ of a blu-ray disc can't be touched by TWC or even FIOS at this point. I've done the comparisons and my eyes don't lie.

P.S. Netflix offers Blu-ray discs and they almost always arrive the next day from the local facility in Flushing.

yes.. for almost all people that visit this board regularly - netflix will make much more sense.

but we aren't the 'average tv viewer' - not even close.

Blu-ray players are now under $200 if you know where to look for them.

And the PQ of a blu-ray disc can't be touched by TWC or even FIOS at this point. I've done the comparisons and my eyes don't lie.

P.S. Netflix offers Blu-ray discs and they almost always arrive the next day from the local facility in Flushing.

Not only the picture quality, but the stunning sound, like Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD master audio, ect.
bottom line is this bluray picture is stunning 1080P, HD on demand is 1080i lite.

Thanks. At least I have found some people on my side.
I'm not saying that I'm totally right. It really all depends if you have the equipment and like watching movies over regular TV.

Berk32 has made some interesting points. So I'm not trying to out-step him.

This officially makes Cablevision the runt of HD delivery in the City. Every other provider throughout the five boroughs provides more HD than Cablevision.

This officially makes Cablevision the runt of HD delivery in the City. Every other provider throughout the five boroughs provides more HD than Cablevision.

I won't touch a product from James Dolan (Cablevision CEO) until the day he dies. He's the loser that hired Isiah Thomas who basically sank to the New York Knicks to the ground.

I noticed on Monday that FOX 5 News in the morning is finally in HD (at least in the studio and of course their FOX 5 HD copter shots). It's about time! They were just about the last local news show to go HD. :cool:

I noticed on Monday that FOX 5 News in the morning is finally in HD (at least in the studio and of course their FOX 5 HD copter shots). It's about time! They were just about the last local news show to go HD. :cool:

MY9 News will be the last to convert.
I dont watch Spanish programming but i think that there is only like 3-4 HD news in spanish around the country.
I wonder when 41 univision & 47 telemundo make the switch?

MY9 News will be the last to convert.

Gotcha. I almost never watch them. The last time i =did=, i believe there were black bars on both sides, NOT impressive.

Well, at least MY9 Yankee games were in HD this year. Last year, it was QUITE annoying when it was in SD.

Well, at least MY9 Yankee games were in HD this year. Last year, it was QUITE annoying when it was in SD.

They've been in HD for a few years.

They've been in HD for a few years.

Really!?! I thought 2006/7 was in SD. I guess time flies!

Really!?! I thought 2006/7 was in SD. I guess time flies!

First HD game on WWOR was in September '06.

Despite the promise of lower prices with the entry of Verizon into the New York cable market, Crain’s New York Business newspaper is reporting that cable prices are instead rising fast.

Crain’s reports in its Nov. 9th edition that Cablevision, which has about 3.1 million TV customers in the New York metropolitan area, will increase the price of cable TV by an average of 3.5% next year. Time Warner Cable, with about 1.1 million New York City customers, is expected to follow with similar rate hikes.

Crain says that Verizon has increased its TV rates by 12%, to $47.99, since entering the New York metro market two years ago.

The cable companies say that price hikes are due to increased programming fees charged by broadcasters and content providers.

Crain’s noted that the Federal Communications Commission recently gave Time Warner Cable permission to raise rates in New York City on basic-cable TV, declaring that there is effective competition in the city, and eliminating the city's power to regulate basic-cable rates.

Time Warner Cable, the nation's second largest cable operator, said last week that its third-quarter profit rose 21 percent. The company earned $301 million in the quarter compared with $248 million a year ago. The cable operator said revenue climbed 8 percent to $4.34 billion from $4 billion.

MY9 News will be the last to convert.
I dont watch Spanish programming but i think that there is only like 3-4 HD news in spanish around the country.
I wonder when 41 univision & 47 telemundo make the switch?

Would love to have Univision & Telemundo switch over to HD come 2010. I forget which of these two spanish channels carries the World Cup. Their coverage is way better than ESPN/ABC.

"Effective December 17th: In Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, and Mt. Vernon We will launch Crossings TV on channel 503 for digital tier customers; Discovery Familia on 870, Cine Mexicano on 871, TV Colombia on 872 and Latele Novela on 873 for DTV en Español customers; NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers and TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers. VS/Golf HD on 794 will change to VS HD.

In Manhattan: HBO HD will now appear only on 651, Cinemax HD on 658, Starz HD on 676, and Showtime HD will now only appear on 666. In Manhattan and Mount Vernon: We will launch HD Movies on Demand on 700 which will be available on the following set-top boxes: Samsung HD3050, Scientific-Atlanta 4250 HDC, and Scientific-Atlanta 8300 HDC. In Brooklyn and Queens: We will launch the previously announced Korean Christian Television on ch. 533. In Northern Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens: We will launch Golf HD on 779, Crime and Investigation HD on 686, Africa Channel HD on 787, TV One HD on 790, G4HD on 692, MGM HD on 796, Chiller HD on 684, Sleuth HD on 685, Style HD on 689, Fuse HD on 691, Nick HD on 706, Lifetime HD on 712, CNBC HD on 715, USA HD on 716, SciFi HD on 717, Bravo HD on 718, E! HD on 724, QVC HD on 733, Spike HD on 736, HSN HD on 739.

Additionally, in Northern Manhattan we will launch Tennis HD on 465, Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports on 467, HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More Max HD on 659, Action Max HD on 660, Thriller Max HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, FiveStar Max on 664, Outer Max HD on 665, Sho 2 HD on 667, Showcase HD on 668, Sho Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 674, TMC Xtra HD on 675, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, Starz Comedy HD on 681, Encore HD on 682, NY1 HD on 701, Palladia HD on 720, Cartoon HD on 722, FX HD on 737, ABC Family HD on 738, History HD on 740, Fox Business News HD on 743, Fox News HD on 744, A&E HD on 746, Disney HD on 749, Learning Channel HD on 752, Toon Disney HD on 760, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 762, Biography HD on 763, Discovery HD on 766, Planet Green HD on 768, Weather Channel HD on 772, Speed HD on 774, Science Channel HD on 775, Travel Channel HD on 788, ESPN News HD on 792, ESPN U HD on 793; Game HD on 791 & 445 for MLB an NHL package customers and NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers"

YES!!! We finally get USA HD, SciFi HD and Spike HD, at least here in Bklyn. Now I can see the final 10 episodes of BSG in HD beginning in January.

YES!!! We finally get USA HD, SciFi HD and Spike HD, at least here in Bklyn. Now I can see the final 10 episodes of BSG in HD beginning in January.

***hopefully.... they aren't 100% promising it just yet (they have a disclaimer that the contracts are still being negotiated)

Is anyone having trouble with ShowtimeHD right now in Midtown East? Just getting a black screen even after reboot. Can't even watch the few HD channels we actually have :mad:

Is anyone having trouble with ShowtimeHD right now in Midtown East? Just getting a black screen even after reboot. Can't even watch the few HD channels we actually have :mad:

It's working up here

So does anybody knows how many analog channels we have left in southern manhattan so that we can get all those hd channels in northern manhattan

my showtime HD is blacked out too. Midtown east

my showtime HD is blacked out too. Midtown east

Dead for me also...

So does anybody knows how many analog channels we have left in southern manhattan so that we can get all those hd channels in northern manhattan

plug the cable into a tv and find out for yourself...

last i heard you had them all...

Showtime HD working this morning.

Does anyone know if the Jets Vs. Pats game will be in HD on WPIX tonight, the wpix website it does not say anything.

Showtime HD working this morning.

Does anyone know if the Jets Vs. Pats game will be in HD on WPIX tonight, the wpix website it does not say anything.
It should be, as they will likely be retransmitting the NFL Network feed anyways.

Does anyone know if the Jets Vs. Pats game will be in HD on WPIX tonight, the wpix website it does not say anything.

Yes - it will be.

Additionally, in Northern Manhattan we will launch Tennis HD on 465, Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports on 467, HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More Max HD on 659, Action Max HD on 660, Thriller Max HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, FiveStar Max on 664, Outer Max HD on 665, Sho 2 HD on 667, Showcase HD on 668, Sho Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 674, TMC Xtra HD on 675, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, Starz Comedy HD on 681, Encore HD on 682, NY1 HD on 701, Palladia HD on 720, Cartoon HD on 722, FX HD on 737, ABC Family HD on 738, History HD on 740, Fox Business News HD on 743, Fox News HD on 744, A&E HD on 746, Disney HD on 749, Learning Channel HD on 752, Toon Disney HD on 760, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 762, Biography HD on 763, Discovery HD on 766, Planet Green HD on 768, Weather Channel HD on 772, Speed HD on 774, Science Channel HD on 775, Travel Channel HD on 788, ESPN News HD on 792, ESPN U HD on 793; Game HD on 791 & 445 for MLB an NHL package customers and NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers"

Southern Manhattan screwed again!

http://www.deltadickshow.com/Screwed_-_2.jpg

Southern Manhattan screwed again!

http://www.deltadickshow.com/Screwed_-_2.jpg

calm down...
we knew this was coming... (once they killed analog service on the north end and nothing has been done on the south end)

At least you now know you're next - and it shouldn't be too much longer.

calm down...
we knew this was coming... (once they killed analog service on the north end and nothing has been done on the south end)

At least you now know you're next - and it shouldn't be too much longer.

I'm moving up North lol

about time..

Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens, Mount Vernon

Please note that the launch and availability of the services indicated in BOLD are entirely contingent upon contractual negotiations. Accordingly, it is possible that the specified service may not launch on this date.


I am interpreting this to mean .... "We know we promised 100 HD channels by the end of the year, so we're going to list these ones here, even though we haven't purchased the rights to air them yet. Then when the end of the year comes around and we can't make good on our promise, we'll tell people it was the fault of the networks - - not our fault, when in fact we could carry these networks tomorrow if we were willing to pay the going rate for them."

I am interpreting this to mean .... "We know we promised 100 HD channels by the end of the year, so we're going to list these ones here, even though we haven't purchased the rights to air them yet. Then when the end of the year comes around and we can't make good on our promise, we'll tell people it was the fault of the networks - - not our fault, when in fact we could carry these networks tomorrow if we were willing to pay the going rate for them."

you should be happy that they aren't just paying whatever the networks are demanding - that would drive our rates up more.

Please note that the launch and availability of the services indicated in BOLD are entirely contingent upon contractual negotiations. Accordingly, it is possible that the specified service may not launch on this date.

I am interpreting this to mean .... "We know we promised 100 HD channels by the end of the year, so we're going to list these ones here, even though we haven't purchased the rights to air them yet. Then when the end of the year comes around and we can't make good on our promise, we'll tell people it was the fault of the networks - - not our fault, when in fact we could carry these networks tomorrow if we were willing to pay the going rate for them."


This is what caught my eye. Although in the past they have been on target when they have made these announcements.

This is what caught my eye. Although in the past they have been on target when they have made these announcements.


They just wanted to get a full list to inform everyone how they planned on getting to over 100 by the end of the year as promised...

If they aren't added on 12/17 - then we'll know that a deal couldn't be reached. (I assume at least some of them will be - if not all - so we'll be right around 100...)

I have no audio on 661ThrMaxHD and 663 MAX@MAXHD for the few days. Also I have intermittent glitches, pixalation and freezing on 465 TennisHD. I am in Kew Gardens, Queens. Anyone else experiencing this ? I have tried rebooting my SA 8300HD several times but no joy. I called customer service and they talked me into a service call appt. I don't feel that a tech will be able to fix this because I think the problem in on their end only. Opinions please. Thanks.

i have an 8300hdc with navigator.

its buggy and slow, but i like how it handles conflicts. for me, pip is buggy. if i swap the pic 2-3 times, the box gets confused. by slow, it some times takes a sec ot two for the box to respond to remote commands. it doesnt always happen, so it isnt something i get used to.

I think the issue is more to do with the crappy "new" software than the physical box. My 87 year old aunt had some issue and they gave her a new box; non DVR. Things she was used to changed, so the next time I visited, I took a look... immediately noticed the new software. Set her up so it was mostly like what she was used to... BUT I noticed on every channel change, the fleeting banner was permanent. She said she found it very annoying and called them the previous day. They KNEW about the issue as the CSR told her to press the Info button twice. I showed her how she only needed to press the Exit button once.

BUT, on any channel change, no longer is the banner temporary. Talk about 100% bush league!

I can't believe I'm paying $106/month on channels that we won't be getting below (southern manhattan, I guess zip code 10017 fits into S. Manhattan).
Why the love for Northern Manhattan and none for Southern Manhattan?

Well, perhaps you aren't aware that when TWC started it's fiber rollout many years ago, they started it at the southern end and slowly moved north. I have a good bud who lives on 10th street and he got high-speed RR and all the digital channels a full 2 YEARS before I got it in northern Manhattan. Two years of far less channels, only a single premium channel for each service, no music channels AND I was relegated to 1.5 Mb/s DSL for IP connection.

I suspect you will NOT have to wait the same 2 years that I had to wait...

Here's an interesting tale for my NY buds:

I filed a complaint with DOITT as soon as I saw they had decided to charge northern Manhattan MORE than southern Manhattan for cable service. Couple that with tons more HD channels everywhere else, PLUS the last rate hike was cam 9 months after the last rate hike, PLUS the fact the outer boroughs had price lock guarantees for the past 12-24 months. Basically my complaint was that DOITT was NOT doing their jobs, allowing rampant rate hikes in one borough while shielding the other boroughs, significant lack of service (why should folks in the same city pay the same for 30 HD channels as 70+ HD channels?).

This got me a call from a PR guy who seemed like he wanted to offer me a deal. Price lock to drop the 107 to 95 (cable/IP, double play) with no cancellation fee, PLUS I can add phone service for 5/mo first year, 10/mo second year. So my rate was 100 for the triple play. Not bad, so I went for it.

You know those ads they run about how Verizon had lots of added fees that make your bill more than what they told you it was going to be? You know, the Sir Charge (surcharge) ads?? Well, I got my bill and guess what? 9 (NINE) separate "sir charges" totaling 17 plus bucks! That is 17% ABOVE the rate I was told I'd be paying.

I check previous bills, I was generally paying something like 5 bucks per month in additional fees... so it's about 12 bucks/month for the phone service.

Talk about rip off!

Needles to say, I fell on the floor when I heard we were about to get tons of new HD channels... but was VERY "scared" that it meant that in-house software disaster (for SDV). Now I see some posts alluding to dropped analog channels giving us the bandwidth. Do we know this for sure?

The way I figure it, it has to be 20-25 analog channels dropped to cover all the new stuff. Far as I remember, we had 70 some off analogs.

Does this REALLY mean that we get to keep out Passport/ECHO software?

I also have a sneaky feeling that they MAY not force the in-house disaster software on older boxes like 8300 HDs (which is what I have). They seem clear that to get some of the newer services (phone number on screen, start-over) I MUST get a new box, even though we know it's the software, not the box.

Needles to say, I fell on the floor when I heard we were about to get tons of new HD channels... but was VERY "scared" that it meant that in-house software disaster (for SDV). Now I see some posts alluding to dropped analog channels giving us the bandwidth. Do we know this for sure?

The way I figure it, it has to be 20-25 analog channels dropped to cover all the new stuff. Far as I remember, we had 70 some off analogs.

Does this REALLY mean that we get to keep out Passport/ECHO software?

I also have a sneaky feeling that they MAY not force the in-house disaster software on older boxes like 8300 HDs (which is what I have). They seem clear that to get some of the newer services (phone number on screen, start-over) I MUST get a new box, even though we know it's the software, not the box.

They dropped about 40 analog channels. (well - almost dropped - they all have a "Call to get new service" message for the last few weeks - that'll obviously go away very soon)

Of course -the new OnDemand channels require the newer boxes.... so changing will be needed if you want that...

I think the issue is more to do with the crappy "new" software than the physical box.Hey RG, welcome back. Where were you-- out on the campaign trail? :D

Yeah—the 8300HDC navigatored software boxes are crap. I have a couple of them, unfortunately :( I had to replace my Passport boxes (short version of long story—big fire in house about a month ago, no loss of life, possessions are history, going to take about a year to fix things, :rolleyes: finally relocated to temporary house and have HD again :cool: ).

Regarding the HDC, the positives do not out weigh the negatives. First impression was that it looked newer and better but it’s not.

The reaction time for all commands is pitifully slow. The lack of “time stamp” on the buffer, while watching live or fast forwarding, etc. is a major disadvantage... also I already had recordings crash... And my biggest gripe is--I cannot deal with the buffer-less tuners when swapping them.

The positives- the on screen caller ID and the HD on demand channels are nice but not worth the switch.

Hey RG, welcome back. Where were you-- out on the campaign trail? :D

Yeah—the 8300HDC navigatored software boxes are crap. I have a couple of them, unfortunately :( I had to replace my Passport boxes (short version of long story—big fire in house about a month ago, no loss of life, possessions are history, going to take about a year to fix things, :rolleyes: finally relocated to temporary house and have HD again :cool: ).

Regarding the HDC, the positives do not out weigh the negatives. First impression was that it looked newer and better but it’s not.

The reaction time for all commands is pitifully slow. The lack of “time stamp” on the buffer, while watching live or fast forwarding, etc. is a major disadvantage... also I already had recordings crash... And my biggest gripe is--I cannot deal with the buffer-less tuners when swapping them.

The positives- the on screen caller ID and the HD on demand channels are nice but not worth the switch.

FYI - it is still possible to get 8300HD boxes (if you are very lucky).

A friend of mine went to the Manhattan store this week and traded in his very buggy HDC.

Now You see it Now you Dont on Oct. 22 TWC added cbs college HD on 467 , now as of yesterday its off the guide and when you call the cs they tell you it was never there, i thought they are suppose to know more than us..and i thought twc is suppose to be adding HD channels not taking them away..
they are such a joke , they are lucky i cant get direct tv ...
does anyone else have the same problem..?

FYI - it is still possible to get 8300HD boxes (if you are very lucky).

A friend of mine went to the Manhattan store this week and traded in his very buggy HDC.;)
Thanks, I know they're still out there.

When I requested the installation for my “new residence,” I specifically instructed them “no HDC boxes, customer will only take Passport boxes.” Naturally, :rolleyes: the technician only had the crap boxes in his truck and didn’t have any notes on his work order and he hasn’t seen an older Passport box “in a long time.”

When the dust (ashes) settle, I will go to a TW center and attempt a swap out... but right now it’s low on my “things to do” list. ;)

Anyone else notice the new "Enhanced TV" option pop-up when selecting NY1, FOX, TNT and a few others?

Anyone else notice the new "Enhanced TV" option pop-up when selecting NY1, FOX, TNT and a few others?

I'm not noticing anything of the sort, altho that sounds kinda exciting. :) Maybe it has something to do with your cable box?? I have the "older" 8300 one, the one with no problems.

Where does this popup show up on your screen?

Where does this popup show up on your screen?

i get it too but i said its unavailable at this time

Where does this popup show up on your screen?

On the 8300HDC...

When you change channels, its a small pop up above the info bar. Now, It is only working on 701 (NY1)....earlier it was working on 701-710.....

When you press select for "For Enhanced TV", it take you to an ondemand channel that is related to the channel you are viewing. So, 710 CNN Enhanced TV redirects to the News & World On Demand ch. 1015. 701 NY1 takes you to NY1 On Demand ch 1110.

Anyone else notice the new "Enhanced TV" option pop-up when selecting NY1, FOX, TNT and a few others?


Yup, started seeing it today on my 8300HDC. Takes you to some ondemand stuff as far as I could tell.

I don't see anything on my set. I have one of the older SA 8300DVR's the one that works, LOL:) thats so funny.

Hey RG, welcome back. Where were you-- out on the campaign trail? :D

Yeah—the 8300HDC navigatored software boxes are crap. I have a couple of them, unfortunately :( I had to replace my Passport boxes (short version of long story—big fire in house about a month ago, no loss of life, possessions are history, going to take about a year to fix things, :rolleyes: finally relocated to temporary house and have HD again :cool: ).

Regarding the HDC, the positives do not out weigh the negatives. First impression was that it looked newer and better but it’s not.

The reaction time for all commands is pitifully slow. The lack of “time stamp” on the buffer, while watching live or fast forwarding, etc. is a major disadvantage... also I already had recordings crash... And my biggest gripe is--I cannot deal with the buffer-less tuners when swapping them.

The positives- the on screen caller ID and the HD on demand channels are nice but not worth the switch.

Sorry to hear about the fire... I can give up the HD OnDemand and the phone number thing quite easily! The permanent banner thing is just too horrible.

I don't see anything on my set. I have one of the older SA 8300DVR's the one that works, LOL:) thats so funny.

Exactly....thank you! Makes me happy to not have the problems that the owners of the 8300HDC box have. :p

Exactly....thank you! Makes me happy to not have the problems that the owners of the 8300HDC box have. :p

But we can't get some of the new HD ch's. I'm sure one of the newer boxes can't be all bad. The question is which one?

But we can't get some of the new HD ch's. I'm sure one of the newer boxes can't be all bad. The question is which one?

i have the 8300hdc can anyone get CBS College sports in HD (467) bc as of the other day it does not even show up on my guide anymore..but the channel 457 in SD does work,,

Northern Manhattan

ShowtimeHD was shifted to QAM Freq. 705 # 001

And guess what? Showtime2HD is on #003

Enjoy it for a month before they 'officially' add it.

i have the 8300hdc can anyone get CBS College sports in HD (467) ,
Yes

Hmm, did they just change the QAM frequency for all three Starz HD channels? I seem to loose them since Fri. Anybody in the same boat?

Exactly....thank you! Makes me happy to not have the problems that the owners of the 8300HDC box have. :p


To be honest, my 8300HDC hasn't been too bad. The only gripe I have is that when you pause or watch recorded shows, it doesn't show you the time frame when you pause/rew/fast-forward. You get the yellow bar so you can kind of tell where you are, but it doesn't tell you exactly where you are.

Other than that, I don't have too many complaints.

The only gripe I have is that when you pause or watch recorded shows, it doesn't show you the time frame when you pause/rew/fast-forward. You get the yellow bar so you can kind of tell where you are, but it doesn't tell you exactly where you are.Yea, I agree (as I also recently posted) and off the top of my head, since I’m just starting to play with it…

--The movie guide is not as complete as the one with the Passport system—no actors or director listed.

--If you’re watching something and you want to see when it’s on again before, with Passport, you could hit the guide and hit the search and it was done. With this new crap, if you hit the guide you have to alphabetically (or by genre) enter the thing you’re watching to find it again.

--BUFFERLESS TUNERS!! :mad:

I’ll list more as I continue to play with it but as I said, the negatives out weigh the positives.

Northern Manhattan

ShowtimeHD was shifted to QAM Freq. 705 # 001

And guess what? Showtime2HD is on #003

Enjoy it for a month before they 'officially' add it.

Is there a trick to be able to watch Showtime2HD using the SA8300HD before it goes "live" next month?

Is there a trick to be able to watch Showtime2HD using the SA8300HD before it goes "live" next month?

as far as i now - it can only be done on the 8300hd.

on the box - hold select and exit for about 5 seconds until you here a tone

then go to channel 1999 for diagnostic mode.

new Northern Manhattan spreadsheet.

includes the 'hidden' Showtime2HD.

Also lots of the analog 'blue screens' are gone (some went black - some are gone completely)


If anyone in Queens/Brooklyn/SI that has an 8300HD box and can go into the diagnostic mode to see the frequencies wants to take a look - let us know if things line up (and fill in the blanks so we know where to look for the stuff you already have... if everything lines up...)

So- I have the 8300HD and I'm happy with it except for 1 thing- no HD on demand.

I probably would only use this a couple of times a month- so maybe not worth the hassle to switch.

Is there any other reason to get the HDC? Will an external drive work with an HDC box? I do not look forward to losing all my shows. I have the entire last season on LOST sitting in my drive. Oh well.

Will an external drive work with an HDC box? I do not look forward to losing all my shows. I have the entire last season on LOST sitting in my drive. Oh well.I’m pretty sure an external hard drive will work with the HDC box. However, an external hard drive will only function with the specific box it was set up with. You will not be able to watch your recordings with a new box.

As soon as I have a moment, I will be going to the TW Queens Center and (hopefully) swapping out these boxes for the older ones.

I currently have timewarner cable in my house but two tvs don't have a converter box. I just have the coax cable on those two sets and am able to receive a few channels. Will I need to get digital converter boxes for those two sets for the upcoming analog shutdown in Feb.?

I currently have timewarner cable in my house but two tvs don't have a converter box. I just have the coax cable on those two sets and am able to receive a few channels. Will I need to get digital converter boxes for those two sets for the upcoming analog shutdown in Feb.?
No, the “analog shutdown” pertains to the “over the air” transmission only, nothing to do with the cable signal.

I currently have timewarner cable in my house but two tvs don't have a converter box. I just have the coax cable on those two sets and am able to receive a few channels. Will I need to get digital converter boxes for those two sets for the upcoming analog shutdown in Feb.?

no. the analog shutdown only affects people using antennas.

damn next page....

You all are and aren't correct. Remember, they could always shut down analog must-carry stations in the cable feed.

You all are and aren't correct. Remember, they could always shut down analog must-carry stations in the cable feed.

...they are shutting down a lot of analog stations on the cable to give us more HDTV...

Anybody else having an outage in Astoria? I haven't had either cable or road runner since about noon on Sunday. Called TWC a couple times, but no outage has been reported in my area. I have to wait until tomorrow for a tech to come out. I figure it can't just be me because both cable and internet are completely gone (no information coming into the cable box either). Quite frustrating.

...they are shutting down a lot of analog stations on the cable to give us more HDTV...

the analog that was shut down was all scrambled channels you needed a box for anyways (along with TNT)

The question being asked involves channels that are not scrambled. Those won't be going anywhere for a long time.

Time Warner Cable has to continue to make available those channels in the clear. If they want to go all digital - then they have to provide boxes (which is obviously not an option right now, and won't be any time soon)

Anybody else having an outage in Astoria? I haven't had either cable or road runner since about noon on Sunday. Called TWC a couple times, but no outage has been reported in my area. I have to wait until tomorrow for a tech to come out. I figure it can't just be me because both cable and internet are completely gone (no information coming into the cable box either). Quite frustrating.

One thing you should know about Time Warner is that the Engineering department and Customer Service don’t talk to each other at all. So that fact that you were told there weren't any outages reported in your area means absolutely nothing.

A_C

I am getting intermittent glitches and pixelation on Tennis Channel HD 465 for several days. Is anyone else experiencing this in Queens? A CSR talked me into a service call for this problem tomorrow. I explained since this is occurring only on one channel I don't see how it can be remedied on my end.I certainly don't want my Passport SA8300HD switched out for an HDC box and Mystro. What do you think? Thanks.

Anybody else having an outage in Astoria? I haven't had either cable or road runner since about noon on Sunday. Called TWC a couple times, but no outage has been reported in my area. I have to wait until tomorrow for a tech to come out. I figure it can't just be me because both cable and internet are completely gone (no information coming into the cable box either). Quite frustrating.

No problems here in Jackson Heights.

I am getting intermittent glitches and pixelation on Tennis Channel HD 465 for several days. Is anyone else experiencing this in Queens? A CSR talked me into a service call for this problem tomorrow. I explained since this is occurring only on one channel I don't see how it can be remedied on my end.I certainly don't want my Passport SA8300HD switched out for an HDC box and Mystro. What do you think? Thanks.

in corona mine is fine, but i still never got back my CBS College sports (467) not on my guide, when it was there from oct. 22 till a few days ago..

The impending drop of Mojo tomorrow seems to have mysteriously disappeared from the TWC website:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

BUT, MGM-HD is still scheduled to take its place on 796 on December 17....

I’m actually a little embarrassed to say that I watched Fox 5 News last night at 5pm, where I noticed something very strange. They seem to be doing something with faces that just looks downright weird. The Anchor’s faces were in noticeably soft focus, but the rest of the frame was sharp and detailed.

I found it very disorienting… It’s as though they’re using some sort of real-time processing to isolate human faces and softening the focus slightly, so as to be more forging for the cameras.

Can anyone shed some light on this? It’s a distinctly different effect from what you see on The View, where they soften the entire frame (in deference to Barbara Walters’ advanced years, I’m certain).

A_C

To be honest, my 8300HDC hasn't been too bad. The only gripe I have is that when you pause or watch recorded shows, it doesn't show you the time frame when you pause/rew/fast-forward. You get the yellow bar so you can kind of tell where you are, but it doesn't tell you exactly where you are.

Other than that, I don't have too many complaints.

I "experienced" a bit of this new software on a non DVR box... the major annoying thing I saw in the first 2 minutes was the banner you got when you change channels was permanent; you HAD to hit EXIT to get rid of it. On Passport, one can set 3 "durations" but on the new software such a setting isn't anywhere to be found.

--BUFFERLESS TUNERS!! :mad:

I’ll list more as I continue to play with it but as I said, the negatives out weigh the positives.

OMG that BLOWS! Many is the time I'm watching, say, 2 sports broadcasts, many is the time that I will go backwards on one of the turners to catch something I may have missed.

How do they do pause if it isn't being buffered?

I questioned exactly how we Man-North folks can get 70+ HD channels all at one time and it was mentioned they dropped the premium analogs.

EXCEPT I seem to recall they did this quite a long while ago. AND I think only the primary channel on each premium service had an analog channel, all the others I believe were digital (a relative on the UES had an analog box and could only get HBO's primary channel, I had them get the digital box and bingo, they got the subchannels).

Needles to say I am apprehensive about them forcing the new crap software on my 8300HD box...

I questioned exactly how we Man-North folks can get 70+ HD channels all at one time and it was mentioned they dropped the premium analogs.

EXCEPT I seem to recall they did this quite a long while ago. AND I think only the primary channel on each premium service had an analog channel, all the others I believe were digital (a relative on the UES had an analog box and could only get HBO's primary channel, I had them get the digital box and bingo, they got the subchannels).

Needles to say I am apprehensive about them forcing the new crap software on my 8300HD box...

Hey R_G -- they didn't do this a while ago. They dropped a ton of analog channels (not just premiums -- lots of "standard service" channels) just in the last month or so, in upper manhattan only.

They are not forcing new software on our older non-HDC boxes *yet*.

Scott

OMG that BLOWS! Many is the time I'm watching, say, 2 sports broadcasts, many is the time that I will go backwards on one of the turners to catch something I may have missed.

How do they do pause if it isn't being buffered?Only the tuner you are watching will keep a buffer. If you press the picture in picture button (which you now have to do before you can swap out tuners) and then swap tuners, the buffer is lost. If you pause a tuner and then swap, the picture will no longer be paused-- and the buffer is lost.

If you try (what I imagined to be the “fix” for this buffer-less situation) and record both tuners, when you go back and forth to watch both shows, you have to go back to the beginning each time. This really blows when trying to get through a 3-hour event such as a game.... And I don’t see the 15-minute fast forward advance that the Passport version has.

I’m surprised more people are not upset about these problems. I guess it comes down to how one watches TV. I have always maximized my viewing time by utilizing the DVR to its fullest, by using the two tuners—along with the recorded shows, jockeying from one to another. This reduced actual viewing time but increased the amount of stuff I could watch.

I’m suspicious that there is more to do with the reasons behind this buffer-less crap. I think there were some back room dealings going on to keep commercial skipping harder to accomplish.

OMG that BLOWS! Many is the time I'm watching, say, 2 sports broadcasts, many is the time that I will go backwards on one of the turners to catch something I may have missed.

How do they do pause if it isn't being buffered?

R_G -- apparently the other big feature lost in the new software is the ability to set up a timed recording -- i.e. "record channel 798 from 6:40pm until 8:20pm". You can ONLY record entire shows -- not set up an arbitrarily timed recording.

I questioned exactly how we Man-North folks can get 70+ HD channels all at one time and it was mentioned they dropped the premium analogs.

EXCEPT I seem to recall they did this quite a long while ago. AND I think only the primary channel on each premium service had an analog channel, all the others I believe were digital (a relative on the UES had an analog box and could only get HBO's primary channel, I had them get the digital box and bingo, they got the subchannels).

Needles to say I am apprehensive about them forcing the new crap software on my 8300HD box...

sorry... we've got our definitions crossed up...

What I called "Premium Analog" referred to all scrambled channels... anything that required an analog box to view.

(you're referring to HBO, Showtime etc. which had 1 each on the analog service and were removed a long long time ago - that led to some HD additions, but they definitly could've added a few more... not that it matter anymore.)

and it doesn't seem like they will be forcing the new software on the 8300HD boxes... i think its needed for the new OnDemand channels... and it seems they want people getting the new boxes instead of forcing the new software on the old ones...

I "experienced" a bit of this new software on a non DVR box... the major annoying thing I saw in the first 2 minutes was the banner you got when you change channels was permanent; you HAD to hit EXIT to get rid of it. On Passport, one can set 3 "durations" but on the new software such a setting isn't anywhere to be found.



Huh...I haven't seen that ever. The banner goes away after a few seconds.

The impending drop of Mojo tomorrow seems to have mysteriously disappeared from the TWC website:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

BUT, MGM-HD is still scheduled to take its place on 796 on December 17....

Yep the MOJO drop is now missing. Here in the HV, TWC has changed the Nov 19 HD adds three times in the last 4 weeks. No MGM HD mentioned ....

I’m actually a little embarrassed to say that I watched Fox 5 News last night at 5pm, where I noticed something very strange. They seem to be doing something with faces that just looks downright weird. The Anchor’s faces were in noticeably soft focus, but the rest of the frame was sharp and detailed.

I found it very disorienting… It’s as though they’re using some sort of real-time processing to isolate human faces and softening the focus slightly, so as to be more forging for the cameras.

Can anyone shed some light on this? It’s a distinctly different effect from what you see on The View, where they soften the entire frame (in deference to Barbara Walters’ advanced years, I’m certain).

A_C

some of these anchors ant getting any younger..:p

The impending drop of Mojo tomorrow seems to have mysteriously disappeared from the TWC website:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

BUT, MGM-HD is still scheduled to take its place on 796 on December 17....

in brooklyn, i went looking for 796 tonight, and it wasnt there.

MOJO HD will cease to exist on December 1st.

Doesn't matter when our TWC removes it... its gone at the end off the month anyways.

And 796 is now missing from my lineup

MOJO HD still sits at QAM freq 585 #45 (for now)

(and SHO 2 HD is still at QAM freq 705 #3)

I’m actually a little embarrassed to say that I watched Fox 5 News last night at 5pm, where I noticed something very strange. They seem to be doing something with faces that just looks downright weird. The Anchor’s faces were in noticeably soft focus, but the rest of the frame was sharp and detailed.

I found it very disorienting… It’s as though they’re using some sort of real-time processing to isolate human faces and softening the focus slightly, so as to be more forging for the cameras.

Can anyone shed some light on this? It’s a distinctly different effect from what you see on The View, where they soften the entire frame (in deference to Barbara Walters’ advanced years, I’m certain).

Philips shared a tech Emmy years ago for its active softening filter that keys on flesh tones (search page (http://www.cinematography.net/%5Bcml-hdtv%5D%20F-900%20skin%20detail%20adjustment%20advice.htm) for 'Philips'). Others have developed similar techniques with varying degrees of effectiveness. -- John

Only the tuner you are watching will keep a buffer. If you press the picture in picture button (which you now have to do before you can swap out tuners) and then swap tuners, the buffer is lost. If you pause a tuner and then swap, the picture will no longer be paused-- and the buffer is lost.

Thanks for the fuller explanation... gotta say that BLOWS.

6 months out of touch of you guys and I seem to see all the old issues still there and some new ones to add additional icing to the cake!

R_G -- apparently the other big feature lost in the new software is the ability to set up a timed recording -- i.e. "record channel 798 from 6:40pm until 8:20pm". You can ONLY record entire shows -- not set up an arbitrarily timed recording.

Eeesh. Fortunately for me, I don't think I ever did something like that!

sorry... we've got our definitions crossed up...

What I called "Premium Analog" referred to all scrambled channels... anything that required an analog box to view.

(you're referring to HBO, Showtime etc. which had 1 each on the analog service and were removed a long long time ago - that led to some HD additions, but they definitly could've added a few more... not that it matter anymore.)

and it doesn't seem like they will be forcing the new software on the 8300HD boxes... i think its needed for the new OnDemand channels... and it seems they want people getting the new boxes instead of forcing the new software on the old ones...

Ah, now I see<g>!

MOJO gone - three new HD adds CNN HD, Discovery HD and animal Planet HD

Huh...I haven't seen that ever. The banner goes away after a few seconds.

What box/software do you have? What I saw was a non-DVR Samsung box running the crappy in-house software, NOT Passport. According to my aunt, when she called they seemed to know about the issue and told her she had to press INFO twice to get rid of the banner. Also, there was NO setting to set any duration for the banner.

I "experienced" a bit of this new software on a non DVR box... the major annoying thing I saw in the first 2 minutes was the banner you got when you change channels was permanent; you HAD to hit EXIT to get rid of it. On Passport, one can set 3 "durations" but on the new software such a setting isn't anywhere to be found.

? I have that box and I do not get any banner that will not go away. Not sure why that would happen, there is a setting I think for banner duration.

I’m actually a little embarrassed to say that I watched Fox 5 News last night at 5pm, where I noticed something very strange. They seem to be doing something with faces that just looks downright weird. The Anchor’s faces were in noticeably soft focus, but the rest of the frame was sharp and detailed.

I found it very disorienting… It’s as though they’re using some sort of real-time processing to isolate human faces and softening the focus slightly, so as to be more forging for the cameras.

Can anyone shed some light on this? It’s a distinctly different effect from what you see on The View, where they soften the entire frame (in deference to Barbara Walters’ advanced years, I’m certain).

A_C

yes you should be embarrassed :eek:

MojoHD is gone on my 8300HD box but it still remains on my H3050 box (Also have HD Showcase On Demand on the H3050 box too).

MojoHD is gone on my 8300HD box but it still remains on my H3050 box (Also have HD Showcase On Demand on the H3050 box too).

MOJO is back on on mine in corona, 8300HDC but still no CBS College sports in HD (467) only on (457 in SD)

MOJO is back on on mine in corona, 8300HDC but still no CBS College sports in HD (467) only on (457 in SD)

Mojo was gone in southern Manhattan sometime a bit after midnight last night. Haven't checked in today, though, to see if it's returned.

Doesn't seem like they've added anything to replace it though. :(

Eeesh. Fortunately for me, I don't think I ever did something like that!

I do it all the time -- I have a daily recording from 7:41-7:51AM on NY1 to grab "In The Papers" a fun little segment where they give you the headlines from some of the newspapers. Unfortunately if that feature goes away, I need to set the DVR to record the 6 hour block of "News All Morning" or something like that! :eek:

Also sometimes use it to record the last 10 minutes of Leno or one of the other talk shows if there's a musical guest I'm interested in appearing. Sometimes I don't have 1 hour of HD space available, but 10 minutes I seem to always have. :)

I do it all the time -- I have a daily recording from 7:41-7:51AM on NY1 to grab "In The Papers" a fun little segment where they give you the headlines from some of the newspapers. Unfortunately if that feature goes away, I need to set the DVR to record the 6 hour block of "News All Morning" or something like that! :eek:

Also sometimes use it to record the last 10 minutes of Leno or one of the other talk shows if there's a musical guest I'm interested in appearing. Sometimes I don't have 1 hour of HD space available, but 10 minutes I seem to always have. :)

I am fairly certain on the HDC but I have to check that you can edit the start and end times for a program. I know you can edit the end time for sure but I am not certain about the start time

I am fairly certain on the HDC but I have to check that you can edit the start and end times for a program. I know you can edit the end time for sure but I am not certain about the start time

Yes, "extending" the show is possible, but I don't believe that you can set a specific block of time to record (sort of like a VCR) with the HDC. And in no way could you set a recurring block of time to be recorded daily!

Yes, "extending" the show is possible, but I don't believe that you can set a specific block of time to record (sort of like a VCR) with the HDC. And in no way could you set a recurring block of time to be recorded daily!

No manual recoding on the HDC, nor a certain day of the week..and time..

Hi. Does anyone know how to, or it it POSSIBLE to, delete the previous 800+ pages related to this section of the website? I have no use, and never WILL HAVE any desire to go through 800 pages of ancient posts, and would just like to get rid of them. I checked the FAQ section, and see nothing related to that sort of question. Thanks.

Hi. Does anyone know how to, or it it POSSIBLE to, delete the previous 800+ pages related to this section of the website? I have no use, and never WILL HAVE any desire to go through 800 pages of ancient posts, and would just like to get rid of them. I checked the FAQ section, and see nothing related to that sort of question. Thanks.:confused: Can you explain in more detail what you are talking about… I don’t understand your question and now I’m curious.

:confused: Can you explain in more detail what you are talking about… I don’t understand your question and now I’m curious.

me too

Hi. Does anyone know how to, or it it POSSIBLE to, delete the previous 800+ pages related to this section of the website? I have no use, and never WILL HAVE any desire to go through 800 pages of ancient posts, and would just like to get rid of them. I checked the FAQ section, and see nothing related to that sort of question. Thanks.

you cant delete them,but if you click the little down arrow next to the thread name you will jump past all those pages.

:confused: Can you explain in more detail what you are talking about… I don’t understand your question and now I’m curious.

OK. There's 847 pages of posts in this section, yes? I would love to have the settings so that i could go, on THIS page, from top to bottom, with the post on the top being the LEAST recent (of the day), and the one at the bottom of the page being the MOST recent. Can't do it. If i try to do it THAT way, it goes back to the very FIRST POST way back 847 pages ago. And of course, THAT won't do!

What i =do= have as a compromise is, the top post on THIS page is the newest one. So i have to go down a bunch of posts and work my way UP. I'd rather work my way down.

Get it? :o

you cant delete them,but if you click the little down arrow next to the thread name you will jump past all those pages.

Oh yes, but that's not the issue.

OK. There's 847 pages of posts in this section, yes? I would love to have the settings so that i could go, on THIS page, from top to bottom, with the post on the top being the LEAST recent (of the day), and the one at the bottom of the page being the MOST recent. Can't do it. If i try to do it THAT way, it goes back to the very FIRST POST way back 847 pages ago. And of course, THAT won't do!

What i =do= have as a compromise is, the top post on THIS page is the newest one. So i have to go down a bunch of posts and work my way UP. I'd rather work my way down.

Get it? :o

What web page are you looking at? Oldest post is at the top and newest at the bottom for me

OK. There's 847 pages of posts in this section, yes? I would love to have the settings so that i could go, on THIS page, from top to bottom, with the post on the top being the LEAST recent (of the day), and the one at the bottom of the page being the MOST recent. Can't do it. If i try to do it THAT way, it goes back to the very FIRST POST way back 847 pages ago. And of course, THAT won't do!

What i =do= have as a compromise is, the top post on THIS page is the newest one. So i have to go down a bunch of posts and work my way UP. I'd rather work my way down.

Get it? :o

are you using this link?

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=565

or are you on the archive page?

What web page are you looking at? Oldest post is at the top and newest at the bottom for me

Huh? I assume I'm looking at the same webpage that you are looking at. BUT, lee7N's post is at the top (9:22PM) and Riv Guy's post from 9:23AM is at the bottom. I'd love to be able to reverse it, without the system taking me back to page 847.

What box/software do you have? What I saw was a non-DVR Samsung box running the crappy in-house software, NOT Passport. According to my aunt, when she called they seemed to know about the issue and told her she had to press INFO twice to get rid of the banner. Also, there was NO setting to set any duration for the banner.

Just checked and I can't find a banner duration setting on the HDC but like I said my banner disappears pretty fast a few seconds maybe. My guess with the HDC is that they give out boxes that are not fully updated to the current software version which would explain a lot of these problems possibly since my HDC is fine, it is the same speed as passport at least on my box.

are you using this link?

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=565

or are you on the archive page?

i tried that link; that link took me to p.565. What's the relevance of *that* page? :confused:

I’m not on the archive page, either.

i tried that link; that link took me to p.565. What's the relevance of *that* page? :confused:

I’m not on the archive page, either.

That is the newest page for me, try

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=565

That is the newest page for me, try

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=565

That's the =newest= page?? :eek: Whoa, something is definitely screwy here. Maybe it's because I'm on a MAC(?), but 565 is a page buried DEEP on my version of this software. On mine, that page is "565 of 848". Page ONE is TODAY'S page, the one I’m writing on NOW, with this post appearing at the top of the page. I'd just like it to be at the BOTTOM of the page.

That's the =newest= page?? :eek: Whoa, something is definitely screwy here. Maybe it's because I'm on a MAC(?), but 565 is a page buried DEEP on my version of this software. On mine, that page is "565 of 848". Page ONE is TODAY'S page, the one I’m writing on NOW, with this post appearing at the top of the page. I'd just like it to be at the BOTTOM of the page.

Could be are you using Safari? Try firefox or IE

Could be are you using Safari? Try firefox or IE

Nope. That's not it. I use Firefox exclusively on here. I only use Safari on a few selected websites that FF can't handle without crashing.

Hey Northern Manhattan.

Those analog 'Blue Screens' are now gone... (they're now all black)

Nope. That's not it. I use Firefox exclusively on here. I only use Safari on a few selected websites that FF can't handle without crashing.

By the way, I appreciate the time you guys are spending on this off-topic issue. ;)

Hey Northern Manhattan.

Those analog 'Blue Screens' are now gone... (they're now all black)

Berk, you gotta move to Queens. We never have these issues. :D

Oh, HDShowcase on demand (699) has some decent HD content. Handful of shows from different HD channels, some which we don't get in S. Manhattan like AE, Hist, G4, Sundance some old Mojo stuff. At least it is something. New premium positions have not shown up yet for me.

Berk, you gotta move to Queens. We never have these issues. :D

these aren't 'issues'... these are the finals signs that the analog channels are being removed for good and being replaced with a ton of HD

hmmm... Mojo is back in my lineup (no guide info though...)

these aren't 'issues'... these are the finals signs that the analog channels are being removed for good and being replaced with a ton of HD

We already =have= that 'ton' of HD. :)

What box/software do you have? What I saw was a non-DVR Samsung box running the crappy in-house software, NOT Passport. According to my aunt, when she called they seemed to know about the issue and told her she had to press INFO twice to get rid of the banner. Also, there was NO setting to set any duration for the banner.


SA 8300HDC/Mystro/ODN Version: 2.4.10_11 2008/06/05

Total HD Content

A&E: 5
Food: 4
G4: 41
Gemini Division: 2
HDNet: 4
HGTV: 6
History: 2
Mojo Mix: 8
Mojo Music: 5
RipTV: 3
Sundance: 6

Is Bklyn, Qns & SI getting this amount as well or more?

Updated the Northern Manhattan spreadsheet.

Nothing big changed... Mojo is still available... The blue message analog channels are now black screens... Showtime 2 HD is hidden as I mentioned before...

I do it all the time -- I have a daily recording from 7:41-7:51AM on NY1 to grab "In The Papers" a fun little segment where they give you the headlines from some of the newspapers. Unfortunately if that feature goes away, I need to set the DVR to record the 6 hour block of "News All Morning" or something like that! :eek:

Also sometimes use it to record the last 10 minutes of Leno or one of the other talk shows if there's a musical guest I'm interested in appearing. Sometimes I don't have 1 hour of HD space available, but 10 minutes I seem to always have. :)

Good points, Scott.

Total HD Content

A&E: 5
Food: 4
G4: 41
Gemini Division: 2
HDNet: 4
HGTV: 6
History: 2
Mojo Mix: 8
Mojo Music: 5
RipTV: 3
Sundance: 6

Is Bklyn, Qns & SI getting this amount as well or more?

Now this is curious... HDNet is essentially a premium channel as you have to pay extra to get it. So it has an on-demand channel that is available without "subscribing" to it, just by having a box running the in-house software?

Just checked, I have no 699, but I do have Mojo AND today it has guide data while yesterday it had none.

Now this is curious... HDNet is essentially a premium channel as you have to pay extra to get it. So it has an on-demand channel that is available without "subscribing" to it, just by having a box running the in-house software?

Just checked, I have no 699, but I do have Mojo AND today it has guide data while yesterday it had none.

There was only a couple of programs from HDnet like Bikini Destinations which don't get me wrong is ok but they have better content then that on the channel

Now this is curious... HDNet is essentially a premium channel as you have to pay extra to get it. So it has an on-demand channel that is available without "subscribing" to it, just by having a box running the in-house software?

Just checked, I have no 699, but I do have Mojo AND today it has guide data while yesterday it had none.

It seems that its just a very small sampling of what HDNet has... (and they've also had a few SD versions of HDNet programming available on one of the OnDemand channels in the 1000s)

(also, the HD Xtra tier includes all of the sports networks in the 450s (the sports tier) and their HD versions that the other boros have and we're getting next month)

as for Mojo? well they fulfilled their legal obligation and announced it would be removed a month in advance - perhaps they came to their senses and decided to leave it until the end of the month when it actually goes off the air - might as well since they aren't replacing it with MGMHD until 12/17.

I also have no ch 699 - but of course i never will until i trade in my 8300HD box

Huh? I assume I'm looking at the same webpage that you are looking at. BUT, lee7N's post is at the top (9:22PM) and Riv Guy's post from 9:23AM is at the bottom. I'd love to be able to reverse it, without the system taking me back to page 847.

i tried that link; that link took me to p.565. What's the relevance of *that* page? :confused:

That's the =newest= page?? :eek: Whoa, something is definitely screwy here. Maybe it's because I'm on a MAC(?), but 565 is a page buried DEEP on my version of this software. On mine, that page is "565 of 848". Page ONE is TODAY'S page, the one I’m writing on NOW, with this post appearing at the top of the page. I'd just like it to be at the BOTTOM of the page.

OK, I think I can shed some light here.

There are some settings in the User CP that control whether the entire thread is shown newest to oldest, or oldest to newest. You can also choose how many posts per page should be presented. Depending on this setting, your page 565 and my page 565 could be entirely different beasts (in fact, as I have it set, there are only 283 pages in the entire thread).

To get to the User CP, click on the User CP tab (third tab along the top, just under the AC Science Forum logo). Once you're in the User CP, go to "Settings and Option - Edit Options" and play with the settings.

Unfortunately, the oldest vs newest setting are for the entire thread - you can't have the page order be newest to oldest, but the opposite for posts within a page.

My tactic is to have the standard oldest to newest order, and then immediately click on "Last" when I popen the page. I then scan the first post on that page to see if it's on I've seen before, and if it isn't I go back a page and start reading there. Hardly smooth, but what can you do...

Mojo was gone in southern Manhattan sometime a bit after midnight last night. Haven't checked in today, though, to see if it's returned.

Doesn't seem like they've added anything to replace it though. :(

Mojo is gone on the UWS. :mad:457 is on no 467:(

Mojo is gone on the UWS. :mad:457 is on no 467:(

Mojo was put back in my lineup last night... you sure you didn't get it back?

(and what about 457/467?)

mojo back here in the HV, popped up last night. Discovey HD in the program guide lists Disney channel shows.:confused:

Mojo was put back in my lineup last night... you sure you didn't get it back?

(and what about 457/467?)

We've got our Mojo back in Southern Manhattan as well.

Mojo was put back in my lineup last night... you sure you didn't get it back?

(and what about 457/467?)

No its gone.I get 457. No 467. Do you get 699 I do:cool:

No its gone.I get 457. No 467. Do you get 699 I do:cool:

what are you supposed to be getting on 467?

We're getting CBS College Sports HD next month....

It seems that its just a very small sampling of what HDNet has... (and they've also had a few SD versions of HDNet programming available on one of the OnDemand channels in the 1000s)

(also, the HD Xtra tier includes all of the sports networks in the 450s (the sports tier) and their HD versions that the other boros have and we're getting next month)

as for Mojo? well they fulfilled their legal obligation and announced it would be removed a month in advance - perhaps they came to their senses and decided to leave it until the end of the month when it actually goes off the air - might as well since they aren't replacing it with MGMHD until 12/17.

I also have no ch 699 - but of course i never will until i trade in my 8300HD box

Are they still planning to upgrade the passport boxes to navigator at some point? I thought they did that in some other markets.

Hey guys --

I just got a TiVo HD and need to have cableCards installed into the unit. From what I hear i have to have TWC do the install. Has anyone had an instance where TWC have given you the cards at an office for you to install yourself?

what are you supposed to be getting on 467?

We're getting CBS College Sports HD next month....

Im getting CBS College Sports SD on 457. So 467 will be in HD:cool:

Hey guys --

I just got a TiVo HD and need to have cableCards installed into the unit. From what I hear i have to have TWC do the install. Has anyone had an instance where TWC have given you the cards at an office for you to install yourself?

No not in NYC TWC no self installs here in new york.

Are they still planning to upgrade the passport boxes to navigator at some point? I thought they did that in some other markets. I don’t know if TW will eventually upgrade the Passport boxes. Perhaps they are expecting customers to exchange them on their own because of these additional HDVOD channels. That could be motivation enough for some—not me.

Im getting CBS College Sports SD on 457. So 467 is will in HD :cool:

i was getting 467 cbs college sports in hd and then a few days ago it was off the guide. and yes i get 699 (big deal) and i have mojo back (796)

i was getting 467 cbs college sports in hd and then a few days ago it was off the guide. and yes i get 699 (big deal) and i have mojo back (796)

Not a big deal for you since you have a bazillion other HD channels unlike S. Manhattan. At least they threw us a bone.

Not a big deal for you since you have a bazillion other HD channels unlike S. Manhattan. At least they threw us a bone.

What bone would that be?

A_C

What bone would that be?

A_C

The free HD Showcase OnDemand channel that only works on the newer boxes with Navigator.

Not a big deal for you since you have a bazillion other HD channels unlike S. Manhattan. At least they threw us a bone.

i dont really call it throwing us a bone seen they are suppose to be adding channels 100 by year end (yea rite) and now i see they took 1 away and 2 by the end of the month..

and now i see they took 1 away and 2 by the end of the month..

??

They are 'taking away' MOJO HD because the channel is going belly-up....

What other channels are you refering to?

i dont really call it throwing us a bone seen they are suppose to be adding channels 100 by year end (yea rite) and now i see they took 1 away and 2 by the end of the month..

I would not call it throwing us a bone if they gave us 100 channels that would be more like the motherload. Mojo is going away from everybody you can't really blame TWC for that as much as I would like to.

I would not call it throwing us a bone if they gave us 100 channels that would be more like the motherload. Mojo is going away from everybody you can't really blame TWC for that as much as I would like to.

you 'sort-of' can... as MOJO was owned by InDemand, which is jointly owned by the major cable companies (including Time Warner)

Thanks bigd86.

you 'sort-of' can... as MOJO was owned by InDemand, which is jointly owned by the major cable companies (including Time Warner)

its a joke , like still no nfl network, and i see they might add channels like usahd, scfi hd , but i bet when that day comes dec 17. they will say that they are still in talks just like the nfl network..i wish they would get there act to together with cust. service since they dont know what the hell is going on when u call them. as far as cbs college sports in hd (467) i had it and now its puff gone for the guide like it was never there, and if you go to the web site its listed , what a run around they love to give , if i was able to i would be to direct tv..

its a joke , like still no nfl network, a i see they might add channels like usahd, sfi hd , but i bet when that day comes dec 17. they will say that they are still in talks just like the nfl network..i wish they would get there act to together with cust. service since they dont know what the hell is going on when u call them. as far as cbs college sports in hd (467) i had it and now its puff gone for the guide like it was never there, and if you go to the web site its listed , what a run around they love to give , if i was able to i would be to direct tv..

NFL Network is COMPLETELY different.

NFL is 100% at fault on that one.

and as for cbs college sports hd- its obviously some sort of error - since some others still have it.

(and as for the NBC-Universal channels - its looking more and more likely that they are coming - Cablevision just announced that they are adding them next month too)

NFL Network is COMPLETELY different.

NFL is 100% at fault on that one.

well its funny but they are both at fault a friend of mine has COX and he has it on his sports tier, why cant TWC do the same, and stop D around us..

well its funny but they are both at fault a friend of mine has COX and he has it on his sports tier, why cant TWC do the same, and stop D around us..

TWC CAN do it.. NFL Network wont let them - NFL wants to be on basic tier and cost the same as ESPN2 does per month (and that would raise everyone's rates close to $1 a month)

The free HD Showcase OnDemand channel that only works on the newer boxes with Navigator.


Well then... My cup runneth over. :rolleyes:

A_C

TWC CAN do it.. NFL Network wont let them - NFL wants to be on basic tier and cost the same as ESPN2 does per month (and that would raise everyone's rates close to $1 a month)

well i dont know why they didnt do what they did with COX cable just put it on the sports tier .

well i dont know why they didnt do what they did with COX cable just put it on the sports tier .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Network#Distribution_controversy

Has anyone asked for any $$ from TW for dropping HDNET2 and now Mojo is going. I don't even remember what the original deal was, I think +$15 for HDnet which included DVR. Now it's like half the Ch's.

Has anyone asked for any $$ from TW for dropping HDNET2 and now Mojo is going. I don't even remember what the original deal was, I think +$15 for HDnet which included DVR. Now it's like half the Ch's.

HDnet2? do you mean INHD 1 and 2? Haven't asked doubt they will care.

Has anyone asked for any $$ from TW for dropping HDNET2 and now Mojo is going. I don't even remember what the original deal was, I think +$15 for HDnet which included DVR. Now it's like half the Ch's.

They added the sports package to it.

HDnet2? do you mean INHD 1 and 2? Haven't asked doubt they will care.

Yes, wasn't there one other CH before INHD2 left? which would make it -3 total?

InHD became MOJO...

We lost InHD2 - but they added the sports package to the group (many of which are now in HD - you need HD Xtra to get them)

And now we are losing MOJO.

Well, TWC is making progress. We got Start Over in Queens....

was watching FX-HD "The Italian Job" and when I hit info, a second smaller pop-up window asked "To Start Over Press Sel". Its Enchanced TV - same feature I noticed earlier this week.

Only a few channels have it thus far.....

Cool, which cable box do you have?

Cool, which cable box do you have?

8300HDC....

I was able to Start Over both morning news programs on NBC and FOX. Very cool feature. Once you change channels, a small popup will appear stating "To Start Over press Sel". Once it disappears, you can press Select at any time to get the Start Over feature.

The "Start Over" feature seems to only work on programs that are 30 minutes in length, and only on the newer software.

You can pause and rewind, but can't fast forward.

There was only a couple of programs from HDnet like Bikini Destinations which don't get me wrong is ok but they have better content then that on the channel

I refer to "HDNet" like I would HBO or SHO, i.e. including all channels within that designation. HDNet I usually only watch for the NASA stuff, but HDNet-M has some old, great movies transferred to HD. As opposed to a channel like Encore, I consistently find I have more interest in the movies on HDNet-M than Encore (which I don't subscribe to).

I also have no ch 699 - but of course i never will until i trade in my 8300HD box

At this point I do NOT want to get the HDC... despite the additional features (StartOver, phone ID, and InDemand HD). I may change that attitude, but only when the overall software is far better than what I read about at this point.

Actually, additional HD space is going to be a MUCH bigger issue comes mid Dec. There's still a ton of stuff I record in SD (FX and SciFi) that I will have to record in HD now.

The "Start Over" feature seems to only work on programs that are 30 minutes in length, and only on the newer software.

You can pause and rewind, but can't fast forward.

Indeed - the lack of FF is annoying. It's been a while since I've had to sit through commercials...

BTW, don't know if Start Over is available on the 8300HD, but yesterday (on my 8300HD) during a commercial on NY1 for stroke awareness, a big ugly box popped up suggesting to press the "A" button to get info about strokes mailed to you.

On the 8300HDC I assume that would not work - we still can't vote on NY1's polls with that box (see - electronic voting is a BAD idea! ;).