I am hearing good things about the APRICORN 1tb DVR Xpander DVR/PVR Hard drive that works with our 8300's, link below if anybody is curi0ous:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822161042

This is the best deal I have seen so far. But WOW 125 hrs of HD. That is an addition a TV guru like myself can't ignore. TE DMM THING IS PLUG & PLAY UNLIKE WHAT i HAVE HEARD OF OTHER Hard drives. The Question here isthis, Does anyone own this drive? Is it as good as I hope? Please a response yo this is criticaln to my late X-mas request from family.
Thanks guys.

Curious... this is 175 bucks. Newegg has another 1T drove in a USB/eSATA case for.. 120 bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822204069

I am hard pressed to tell any real difference between them... both have 7200RPM drives, the expensive one seems to lack an on/off switch.

Ooops, just noticed both have rebates, the 50 buck one for the expensive one nbrings it to 125. So it's 100 vs. 125.

Can someone with Time Warner Cable please tell me what channel the Rangers/Thrashers game is on tonight?

It's not on MSG or MSG+....

Trying to find out for a friend....

Can someone with Time Warner Cable please tell me what channel the Rangers/Thrashers game is on tonight?

It's not on MSG or MSG+....

Trying to find out for a friend....

www.msg.com/overflow/

NYC 51
Mount Vernon 50
Hudson Valley 72

no HD

Thanks Much Berk.

Curious... this is 175 bucks. Newegg has another 1T drove in a USB/eSATA case for.. 120 bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822204069

I am hard pressed to tell any real difference between them... both have 7200RPM drives, the expensive one seems to lack an on/off switch.

Ooops, just noticed both have rebates, the 50 buck one for the expensive one nbrings it to 125. So it's 100 vs. 125.

I replaced my failed external drive with this one from Amazon last week and have had no problems as of yet, It is very quiet and compact:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YUFUCO

no spike hd.:(

The previously scheduled launches of Africa Channel HD, HSN HD, Spike HD, Nick HD, and NBA TV HD on December 17th in N. Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Mt. Vernon, and in Woodside, Elmhurst, and Maspeth on December 22nd, has been postponed.

I thought I'd report an unprecedented event in Time Warner customer service. I called for a service call today and they are coming tomorrow. This has never happened before. usually it is a week or more.

I thought I'd report an unprecedented event in Time Warner customer service. I called for a service call today and they are coming tomorrow. This has never happened before. usually it is a week or more.


All those people migrating to FiOS allows for quicker TWC service calls! :D

Anyone having problems with NBC this evening? Trying to watch ER and the audio dropped out for a good 5-10 minutes. Then the picture switches aspect ratios.

Anyone having problems with NBC this evening? Trying to watch ER and the audio dropped out for a good 5-10 minutes. Then the picture switches aspect ratios.

Me too, switched to channel 4. Didn't catch a AR change though.

It sounded like someone was tapping out some song when the audio died... like someone in the TWC control center was goofing on us.

Me too, switched to channel 4. Didn't catch a AR change though.

It sounded like someone was tapping out some song when the audio died... like someone in the TWC control center was goofing on us.

I was thinking the same thing. (more likely someone at WNBC)

I stayed on 704 and used closed captioning (and also had the picture drop to SD for a moment)

Anyone having problems with NBC this evening? Trying to watch ER and the audio dropped out for a good 5-10 minutes. Then the picture switches aspect ratios.


I've been getting stuttering audio and pixelation on NBC-HD for about 5 days now, intermittently.

I'm not going to even bother complaining; the droids on the phone never have any idea what's going on and who needs the aggravation anyway...

A_C

I've been getting stuttering audio and pixelation on NBC-HD for about 5 days now, intermittently.

I'm not going to even bother complaining; the droids on the phone never have any idea what's going on and who needs the aggravation anyway...

A_C

I'm coming a little late to this thread but, i had THE OFFICE on DVR from last week; finally came around to watching it the other night(?)....basically UNWATCHABLE, thanks to frequent pixilation, screen freezes, audio drops, etc. Horrnedous. Just like "the good old days" when this happened on my screen a LOT. :(

are you sure this increase of hd channels in n. manhattan is happening? its nowhere on their site, ad i've asked 3 cable guys on the street and they have no idea about it...[/QUOTE]

are you sure this increase of hd channels in n. manhattan is happening? its nowhere on their site, ad i've asked 3 cable guys on the street and they have no idea about it...

We're as sure as we can be without any actual word from TWC.... the guys on the street are going to have no clue - as are the customer service people - since that's just the way Time Warner operates.

Notes on the site reference the previous big list that we've gone through in this tread (like mentioning that the "previously scheduled launches of Africa Channel HD, HSN HD, Spike HD, Nick HD, and NBA TV HD on December 17th in N. Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Mt. Vernon, and in Woodside, Elmhurst, and Maspeth on December 22nd, has been postponed".

That would imply that the others are on schedule.

also, about 19 more HD channels are already being sent through on the cable system - they just aren't mapped to a channel # on the box - and a whole bunch of analog channels are sitting empty - just waiting to be filled with brand new glorious digital HD.

I was thinking the same thing. (more likely someone at WNBC)

I stayed on 704 and used closed captioning (and also had the picture drop to SD for a moment)

Forgot to mention it, but I've seen this before... where the audio "changes" to what sounds very much like someone doing finger tapping... don't remember what local channel, but I remember thinking someone WAS goofing on us.

are you sure this increase of hd channels in n. manhattan is happening? its nowhere on their site, ad i've asked 3 cable guys on the street and they have no idea about it...[/QUOTE]

The channels I posted a while back were taken from the TWC site... and if you read back, someone copied the entire announcement in a post here. About a week later, they posted another notice about some changes referring to the previously announced channel additions.

There has been changes that probably mean they wont hit 100 by years end... but lower Manhattan will still be stuck on 29-31 channels.

Thought y'all might be interested in this... I finally got around to putting a Kill-a-Watt in front of my HT setup. Got some very interesting results.

First, my 8300HD DVR runs around 27-28 watts. On or off. Even if I go through the rig-a-ma-role of silencing both tuners from writing to the disc... I see it drop maybe a watt.

Running the 8300 and my LCD, it's drawing about 170-172 watts. Adding in my 200w/ch - 5 channel AVR brings it to about 250-260 watts (there's a HeathKit alarm clock in there that runs about a watt or so).

Oh my GOD.......TV sucks today!!!

Oh my GOD.......TV sucks today!!!

Well, a lot of us in Northern Manhattan are counting the days (4) until we basically triple our HD content...gotta figure there will be something to wach then.

Well, a lot of us in Northern Manhattan are counting the days (4) until we basically triple our HD content...gotta figure there will be something to wach then.

still nothing to watch, but just better looking.

;)

sci-fi hd in 5 days. cant wait.

How does a big channel addition like the one scheduled for the 17th usually go down? Is there a reset of the box and the, voila!?

-Mike

I just added a Western Digital 500GB My DVR Expander to an SA8300HD DVR. It’s not 100% clear however, that I’ve actually added more space.

I’ve taken a number of screen captures from the service menu; and if I had to guess, I’d say the one titled ‘DVR AVFS’ (see enclosures) is telling me I have an additional 593.8GB of space.

Is this correct?

Thanks,

A_C

I just added a Western Digital 500GB My DVR Expander to an SA8300HD DVR. It’s not 100% clear however, that I’ve actually added more space.

I’ve taken a number of screen captures from the service menu; and if I had to guess, I’d say the one titled ‘DVR AVFS’ (see enclosures) is telling me I have an additional 593.8GB of space.

Is this correct?

Thanks,

A_C

Everything looks fine. The 594GB is your total space of both your drives after formatting, not your additional space.

Everything looks fine. The 594GB is your total space of both your drives after formatting, not your additional space.

Thanks, but I've just noticed something; I've got no buffers, on either tuner!

Cold boot doesn't bring them back either. Only if I disconnect the unit and re-boot do the buffers come back.

Any idea what that's about???

A_C

Well, a lot of us in Northern Manhattan are counting the days (4) until we basically triple our HD content...gotta figure there will be something to wach then.
Oh, I think you misunderstood me. Every channel was choppy. None of the premium channels were broadcasting right: pixelation, audio delay, stuttering.

Thanks, but I've just noticed something; I've got no buffers, on either tuner!

Cold boot doesn't bring them back either. Only if I disconnect the unit and re-boot do the buffers come back.

Any idea what that's about???

A_C

that is the big issue with the 8300hd and passport. buffer does not work. work around, record and play.

the 8300hdc with mystro does not have this issue.

How does a big channel addition like the one scheduled for the 17th usually go down? Is there a reset of the box and the, voila!?

-Mike

the last time twc added hd, i didnt notice the new channels b4 i left to work, but they were there when i got home. i do know if they rebooted the boxes.

Thanks, but I've just noticed something; I've got no buffers, on either tuner!

Cold boot doesn't bring them back either. Only if I disconnect the unit and re-boot do the buffers come back.

Any idea what that's about???

A_C

You know what, you're right. I've only had my external drive hooked up for a couple of days, and never noticed the buffer was gone. I just tried it.

FWIW, on SI I'm starting to receive some of the new channels already if I manually enter the channel number. They don't show up in the channel guide or if I scan the channels with the remote. CNBCHD for 1 is working on 715, but SciFiHD and a few others say "a subscription is required".

that is the big issue with the 8300hd and passport. buffer does not work. work around, record and play.

the 8300hdc with mystro does not have this issue.


I wish I'd have known that to begin with... Would have saved me a $19 re-stocking fee from Newegg!~ :(

A_C

I wish I'd have known that to begin with... Would have saved me a $19 re-stocking fee from Newegg!~ :(

A_C

or you could just suffer an upgrade to the hdc,

;)

or you could just suffer an upgrade to the hdc, ;)

Not anxious to do that for obvious reasons.

I am considering however, opening up the 8300 and replacing the drive with a 1TB unit and perhaps maxing out the memory.

A_C

Can someone point me in the right direction to the easiest way, if possible, to burn programs off the SA8300HD onto DVD?

How about all those ads about "Sir Charge" and how you can understand the cable bill without the few "fees" Verizon tacks onto their bills? My last cable bill (first w/triple play) showed 11 separate "fees" amounting to 17 bucks. Checking previous bills, that makes for 12 buck just for the phone service.

When I had phone service from Verizon, there were never more than 3 "fee" items.

Let's not forget the ridiculous price gauging - my service fees went up from $15x/mo to $17x/mo in about 18 months.... nonsense.
All this while the quality went downhill - now ALL HD channels have pixelization, not only certain ones and I don't give a damn about these FALSE HD channels like TBS HD etc.

I'm thinking about canceling this expensive PoS service, once and forever.

Holy Sh!t we got a lot more hidden HD (Northern Manhattan).

I'll do my best to make a list tonight....

Holy Sh!t we got a lot more hidden HD (Northern Manhattan).

I'll do my best to make a list tonight....

Really I bet the quality of those new HD channels are average at best. The quality of HD channels have gone down hill with TWC. Last year discover HD theater was basically the best looking HD channel, now is one of the of the usual suspects. I think some of the broadcasters are terrible, but TWC don't help either compressing the channels.

Really I bet the quality of those new HD channels are average at best. The quality of HD channels have gone down hill with TWC. Last year discover HD theater was basically the best looking HD channel, now is one of the of the usual suspects. I think some of the broadcasters are terrible, but TWC don't help either compressing the channels.

adding more HD isn't not affecting the current set of channels.

12 more hidden HD channels found for northern Manhattan (that makes 31 total to go along with the 31 actually available)

All 31 'hidden' are channels the other Boros already have...

I figure we'll see more nightly.

12 more hidden HD channels found for northern Manhattan (that makes 31 total to go along with the 31 actually available)

this is really eating at me. Wednesday aint gonna be a nice one for me. Everyone else, enjoy the additions.

this is really eating at me. Wednesday aint gonna be a nice one for me. Everyone else, enjoy the additions.

Still no analog removed for lower manhattan?

Still no analog removed for lower manhattan?

nope. only UNTV on channel 78 is being dropped in january here in the South

nope. only UNTV on channel 78 is being dropped in january here in the South

well they didn't announce anything on the website when they starting dropping northern manhattan channels (or any other boro)

well they didn't announce anything on the website when they starting dropping northern manhattan channels (or any other boro)

Sorry - newbie question - is there a way to view the hidden channels with cablecard or the 8300 non-HDC box?

Sorry - newbie question - is there a way to view the hidden channels with cablecard or the 8300 non-HDC box?

im using the 8300 HD box in diagnostic mode (channel 1999 after you hold select+exit together on the box)

so, how do you get these "hidden channels"? is there content coming through now? sorry for my naivite.

also, why is twc like that? why do they do things like roll out channels without actually telling people about them. i didn't even know about the olympic stuff, and i had espn2hd 3 months before they put it on their website...

so, how do you get these "hidden channels"? is there content coming through now? sorry for my naivite.

also, why is twc like that? why do they do things like roll out channels without actually telling people about them. i didn't even know about the olympic stuff, and i had espn2hd 3 months before they put it on their website...

1) Yes, the content can be viewed now - as I already explained how to do on the 8300HD (manually tune-in on the diagnostics page using freq/prog # on my spreadsheet)

(someone said they can also be seen using a TV's internal QAM tuner instead of the cable box's - that i cannot confirm.... and the 'locations' on that could be very different than on my spreadsheet)

Of course this is only accurate for northern manhattan - i cant confirm that the other boros will see channels in the same locations. (anyways, they already get the channels I've been forced to dig to find.)

2) They do tell people of the channel rollouts here: http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

And why do they start adding the channels beforehand? well... probably to make sure there are no problems... (assigning them to a channel # on a digital system is 'nothing'... they'll be doing that on the announced 12/17 date).

Usually the new channels show up about 2 days beforehand - but considering they are adding so much for northern manhattan, it would make sense that they start a bit earlier.

Curious... this is 175 bucks. Newegg has another 1T drove in a USB/eSATA case for.. 120 bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822204069

I am hard pressed to tell any real difference between them... both have 7200RPM drives, the expensive one seems to lack an on/off switch.

Ooops, just noticed both have rebates, the 50 buck one for the expensive one nbrings it to 125. So it's 100 vs. 125.
I saw the other onr sldo, but I didn't see as many goos reviews, and the biggest point that has me oeaninhg towards the Xpander is the Plug & Play that gthe compamyamd reviewers say works perfect. Syre there are some cases that you may have to trya few time. The other one doesn't claim that. Well my Pops ordered it for me from Amazon. When I get it I will let you guys know, How good is the "plug & play" for this unit? This is a HD TV addicts dream, With the additional channels in 7 days and the TV season back to full force in January. Those 125 extra hrs of HD programing givces me time to view and enjoy all the shows, instead of rushing through the shows befo4re I get a full capacity knock off! So far thius season I had 2 casualties.

1) Yes, the content can be viewed now - as I already explained how to do on the 8300HD (manually tune-in on the diagnostics page using freq/prog # on my spreadsheet)

(someone said they can also be seen using a TV's internal QAM tuner instead of the cable box's - that i cannot confirm.... and the 'locations' on that could be very different than on my spreadsheet)

Of course this is only accurate for northern manhattan - i cant confirm that the other boros will see channels in the same locations. (anyways, they already get the channels I've been forced to dig to find.)

2) They do tell people of the channel rollouts here: http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/programming/channelchanges.html

And why do they start adding the channels beforehand? well... probably to make sure there are no problems... (assigning them to a channel # on a digital system is 'nothing'... they'll be doing that on the announced 12/17 date).

Usually the new channels show up about 2 days beforehand - but considering they are adding so much for northern manhattan, it would make sense that they start a bit earlier.


I did a digital scam for QAM channels, and I can't get those channels now, they are gone. the bad news for customers that don't have a cable box is that they only can get 15 digital channels and that include the locals. Heck I can't even get Fox or ABC HD on the QAM anymore. I think they did something with the system in the last couple of days.

Not anxious to do that for obvious reasons.

I am considering however, opening up the 8300 and replacing the drive with a 1TB unit and perhaps maxing out the memory.

A_C
I wouldn't be a good online buddy if I don't aid you with your idea/ This is a very bad idea for a few reasons:
1)If it doesn't work, you will have to get a new box and TWC isn't stupid they will notice the tampering. They might not notice immediate;y but every box has an ID so they will know who was playing inside the box. They might charge you the price for a new one.
2) This is the dangerous one. If thery deem that the box has been tampered with they have every right to hit you haed for extra $$$$, Why
? you ask, because they will think that you tampered with the box to get more channels. If this is the case they can charge you for max monthly fees from the time you started with that box till present. Worst case scenerio JAIL TIME! While this last item is unlikely It is a chance I rather not have a fdriend take.
I am just giving you something to think of before you do try it.

I wouldn't be a good online buddy if I don't aid you with your idea/ This is a very bad idea for a few reasons:
1)If it doesn't work, you will have to get a new box and TWC isn't stupid they will notice the tampering. They might not notice immediate;y but every box has an ID so they will know who was playing inside the box. They might charge you the price for a new one.
2) This is the dangerous one. If thery deem that the box has been tampered with they have every right to hit you haed for extra $$$$, Why
? you ask, because they will think that you tampered with the box to get more channels. If this is the case they can charge you for max monthly fees from the time you started with that box till present. Worst case scenerio JAIL TIME! While this last item is unlikely It is a chance I rather not have a fdriend take.
I am just giving you something to think of before you do try it.
Oh please -- I've returned many boxes to TWC, and never once has any customer service rep at the office examined the box to check for tampering.

And beyond that, most of the boxes are not delivered to you "new out of the box" so if it were tampered with, how could they prove it was you who did the tampering and not the person who had the box before you?

I consider it to be highly unlikely that TWC would ever notice if you "broke a seal" on the box or whatever they have to tell if it were tampered with. So long as you replace the original drive in the unit before returning it to TWC you should be OK.

So as the devil on your other shoulder, Agent_C, I say "Go for it!" And report back to us if it works or not. :)

[QUOTE=T2k;15292159]
All this while the quality went downhill - now ALL HD channels have pixelization, not only certain ones and I don't give a damn about these FALSE HD channels like TBS HD etc.
QUOTE]

I have to disagree with you there. There are much worse HD channels out there. I was actually blown away with a couple of the Seindeld episodes. They were crystal clear. I have never seen Jerry and the gang loook so great. ABC family is one of the poorest quality out there. I know everything isn't in HD but for the most pary the HD channels give much better PQ thsn the sister SD channels.

I am in the Ozone Park/Richmond Hill sectiuon of Queens and have to say the quality has been improving since we got that first bulk HD additions. Not only that their On-demand offerings havre looked great. Fear.net is my new quilty pleasure on the SD front.

Unless you are totally anti-TWC like some of nmy buds are on this thread(any movement on FIOS for you River?) therre are a lot of things you can try to better PQ. Let me know which way you are leaning, if you are giving TWC a chance the get back to me and I will give you a list of posible fixes.

Oh please -- I've returned many boxes to TWC, and never once has any customer service rep at the office examined the box to check for tampering.

And beyond that, most of the boxes are not delivered to you "new out of the box" so if it were tampered with, how could they prove it was you who did the tampering and not the person who had the box before you?

I consider it to be highly unlikely that TWC would ever notice if you "broke a seal" on the box or whatever they have to tell if it were tampered with. So long as you replace the original drive in the unit before returning it to TWC you should be OK.

So as the devil on your other shoulder, Agent_C, I say "Go for it!" And report back to us if it works or not. :)

Hey Scott while it is unlikely. Would you want to be the one that it does happen to. Remember these cable companies use to lose millions in revenue because of fix boxes. HoweverI thought it will be good for him to know what can happen. Plus it isn't the rep I was talking about, It is the technician in the back that has to check and fix these boxes to make them ready for the next customer.
But the one thing that might help him is that the 8300hd is a dying breed and It is all *300 HDC now so the box might be tossed.

Oh please -- I've returned many boxes to TWC, and never once has any customer service rep at the office examined the box to check for tampering.

And beyond that, most of the boxes are not delivered to you "new out of the box" so if it were tampered with, how could they prove it was you who did the tampering and not the person who had the box before you?

I consider it to be highly unlikely that TWC would ever notice if you "broke a seal" on the box or whatever they have to tell if it were tampered with. So long as you replace the original drive in the unit before returning it to TWC you should be OK.

So as the devil on your other shoulder, Agent_C, I say "Go for it!" And report back to us if it works or not. :)

I’m proceeding with certain [broad] assumptions…

1) That like Sarah, when Passport senses a new drive, it automatically launches an initialization routine and blesses the drive. No user intervention or complicated procedures like the old Tivo’s.

2) That adding more memory will improve performance. The service menu indicates there’s a free slot, so I’ll just duplicate what’s in the adjacent one.

I did notice one thing while having the WD My DVR Expander installed… All around performance was noticeably better. I attributed this to the fact that the external drive was a better performer than the original, and perhaps having the guide and programs on different drives (by default the 8300 records on the drive with the most space) speeded things up a bit.

BTW, has anyone here done any this before???

A_C

Hey Scott while it is unlikely. Would you want to be the one that it does happen to. Remember these cable companies use to lose millions in revenue because of fix boxes. HoweverI thought it will be good for him to know what can happen. Plus it isn't the rep I was talking about, It is the technician in the back that has to check and fix these boxes to make them ready for the next customer.
But the one thing that might help him is that the 8300hd is a dying breed and It is all *300 HDC now so the box might be tossed.

I have no idea if they check or not or flag inventory scans of the boxes but the diag's do log the HD type/ size/model

1)

(someone said they can also be seen using a TV's internal QAM tuner instead of the cable box's - that i cannot confirm.... and the 'locations' on that could be very different than on my spreadsheet)



This is tyrue fact. The Qam does pick up some extras, but it comes and goes. One day crstal clear the next "channel Scrambled" or "Low signal"
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It is very annoying work when you have to go tjrough every channel manually.

I can't wait untill you guys FINALLY get to join in the fun with all the HD options.
I don't know how many channels you have now, but here is my 2cenrs on the ones to watch:

USAHD - During the Olympics and a few US open days showed me this is a keeper

FXHD - While hey screwed me with The Shield not being in HD, Sons of Anarchy didn't disapoint With new episodes of returning favorites coming back and their quaklity movie schedule this one should be on Fav list

Weather Channel HD - destruction on TV is great but destruction in HD is WOW!

SciFiHD - BSG in HD need I say anymore

Discovery HD - The flagship has always caught our eyes, but the shows have gotten better. Time Warp simply amazing

HDnet / HSnet movies - I know you have had these 2 as long as I have, but they give the best HD experience day un and day out. Watch that destibzation show and be blown away at how beautiful the other countries look. Discovery HD Theater is right there with amazing PQ.

TEAM HD, NBATVHD Postponed, Tennis Channel-HD, CBS CS-HD, Big Ten Network-HD, Golf HD & MLB Network HD -
All the new sport channels will keep any sports fan glued to to his/her seat. Now we get to see teams from all over the 50 states.

Last but not all the least.

HD News - The news channels including ESPN NewsHD has me eating my feet. If you can recall back when 15 HD channels was TWC'S way of saying "SCREW THE HD SUBSCRIBERS" I was against wasting space to give us News in HD. Entertainment channels should be the priority. I was wrong the news looks great in HD, kind of gives you a good feeling even though the news is so depressing.

adding more HD isn't not affecting the current set of channels.

Utter nonsense. Of course it does - do you understand the nature of cable backbones? I doubt it (otherwise you are deliberately trying to deceive people with false info.) They have a limited bandwidth to cook from and they have to squeeze in more and more channels - no more high-megabit HD channels, that's for sure. (Yes, they always have overhead but they try to minimize the essentials.)

Of course, when you simply upscale your Sd programming you don't need high bandwidth either - the problem is when you sell it as "HD" despite it clearly isn't...

OTOH anyone thinking TWCNYC so-called "HD" channels are actually actually high-definition channels doesn't deserve any better anyway.

Really I bet the quality of those new HD channels are average at best. The quality of HD channels have gone down hill with TWC. Last year discover HD theater was basically the best looking HD channel, now is one of the of the usual suspects. I think some of the broadcasters are terrible, but TWC don't help either compressing the channels.

Bingo. TWCNYC this year quickly became the worst so-called "HD" quality I've ever seen on cable or satellite.

Utter nonsense. Of course it does - do you understand the nature of cable backbones? I doubt it (otherwise you are deliberately trying to deceive people with false info.) They have a limited bandwidth to cook from and they have to squeeze in more and more channels - no more high-megabit HD channels, that's for sure. (Yes, they always have overhead but they try to minimize the essentials.)

Of course, when you simply upscale your Sd programming you don't need high bandwidth either - the problem is when you sell it as "HD" despite it clearly isn't...

OTOH anyone thinking TWCNYC so-called "HD" channels are actually actually high-definition channels doesn't deserve any better anyway.

Do I understand the nature of cable backbones?

1) They've opened up a HUGE amount of space by removing analog channels.

2) You're initial statement implied that its getting worse, which is ridiculous. They haven't changed anything in regards to its HD carriage. Its still 3 HD channels per 6 MHz (2 per + subchannels for the channel available OTA). That 6MHz can carry 38.4 Mb/s using 256-QAM. Now 'technically' 1 'full' HD channel is supposed to be maxed at 19.39 Mb/s (which is why they do just 2 OTA per 6MHz). The truth is many cable networks don't sent our their channels anywhere near that. They can range from 12 to 16 Mb/s.

They haven't touched the channels that they've been carrying up until now.

So is it as good as it could be - no... - but calling it utter garbage makes me think you're TV is messed up (or you just have a bad connection to Time Warner).

3) You think Time Warner is bad? Have you seen Cablevision? They regularly cram 4 'HD' channels into a 6 MHz slot....

Do I understand the nature of cable backbones?

1) They've opened up a HUGE amount of space by removing analog channels.

2) You're initial statement implied that its getting worse, which is ridiculous. They haven't changed anything in regards to its HD carriage. Its still 3 HD channels per 6 MHz (2 per + subchannels for the channel available OTA). That 6MHz can carry 38.4 Mb/s using 256-QAM. Now 'technically' 1 'full' HD channel is supposed to be maxed at 19.39 Mb/s (which is why they do just 2 OTA per 6MHz). The truth is many cable networks don't sent our their channels anywhere near that. They can range from 12 to 16 Mb/s.

They haven't touched the channels that they've been carrying up until now.

So is it as good as it could be - no... - but calling it utter garbage makes me think you're TV is messed up (or you just have a bad connection to Time Warner).

3) You think Time Warner is bad? Have you seen Cablevision? They regularly cram 4 'HD' channels into a 6 MHz slot....



TWC has definitely lost its "pop" this year. I upgraded TV in NYC and moved my existing one out to LI where I have FIOS and all I have to say is "WOW". Even SD looks great on FIOS. I agree about Cablevision - that was perhaps the worst looking picture I've seen yet.

Last few weeks have been especially bad here - pixelation, audio dropouts, various channels greyed out, etc. etc. If I dare call TWC support all they offer is for me to reboot my box and then send a tech. FIOS support does full diagnostics remotely.

i can't open your zip file - any other way to post/send it?

nevermind...got it...

I saw the other onr sldo, but I didn't see as many goos reviews, and the biggest point that has me oeaninhg towards the Xpander is the Plug & Play that gthe compamyamd reviewers say works perfect. Syre there are some cases that you may have to trya few time. The other one doesn't claim that. Well my Pops ordered it for me from Amazon. When I get it I will let you guys know, How good is the "plug & play" for this unit? This is a HD TV addicts dream, With the additional channels in 7 days and the TV season back to full force in January. Those 125 extra hrs of HD programing givces me time to view and enjoy all the shows, instead of rushing through the shows befo4re I get a full capacity knock off! So far thius season I had 2 casualties.

Have they pushed the date back? I thought the upgrade was taking place on the 17th? Hope I'm not mistaken...my countdown was down to 2 days!

Have they pushed the date back? I thought the upgrade was taking place on the 17th? Hope I'm not mistaken...my countdown was down to 2 days!

Well parts of Queens have to wait until the 22nd

i get into diag screen but cant change the settings to see the hidden channels whats wrong i have 8300hdc in nothern manhattan

thanks

i get into diag screen but cant change the settings to see the hidden channels whats wrong i have 8300hdc in nothern manhattan

thanks

i said the 8300hd - not the hdc (this is one of the reasons why i didn't switch yet)

FYI - there's more HD added - I'll try to make another list (just for the hell of it...)

So, just to confirm; these hidden channels can't be accessed by us HDC users. Is that right?

So, just to confirm; these hidden channels can't be accessed by us HDC users. Is that right?

not as far as I know (I'm not that familiar with the diagnostic menu of the hdc) I only briefly looked at it once, and could not find the spot to manually tune into frequencies.

FYI - there's more HD added - I'll try to make another list (just for the hell of it...)


I used your spreadsheet to checkout a few channels but couldn't figure out how to get out of the diagnostic screen to view the channels. I would be very interested in knowing if you were able to find the freq/prog#'s for MGM HD and Palladia HD. Thanks for all your hard work.

I used your spreadsheet to checkout a few channels but couldn't figure out how to get out of the diagnostic screen to view the channels. I would be very interested in knowing if you were able to find the freq/prog#'s for MGM HD and Palladia HD. Thanks for all your hard work.

At this point... we're just gonna have to wait until Wednesday...

Yeah, we've been able to wait this long. We're almost there. But, still keeping my fingers crossed.

Thanks, but I've just noticed something; I've got no buffers, on either tuner!

Cold boot doesn't bring them back either. Only if I disconnect the unit and re-boot do the buffers come back.

Any idea what that's about???

A_C

Isn't that a very well known bug in the deployed Passport software? What I recall is that one CAN "pause" and resume, BUT one can NOT use FF or any other mode than play... AND the "advice" work around this is to hit the record button.

Not anxious to do that for obvious reasons.

I am considering however, opening up the 8300 and replacing the drive with a 1TB unit and perhaps maxing out the memory.

A_C

"Memory" is RAM, not disc space!

If you try this, make careful notes about the steps you take (pretty please).

12 more hidden HD channels found for northern Manhattan (that makes 31 total to go along with the 31 actually available)

All 31 'hidden' are channels the other Boros already have...

I figure we'll see more nightly.

Damn... I will NOT buy a new TV JUST to get a QAM tuner so I can follow along with you<g>!

Right now, I'm looking at third gen LED backlight as a motivator. Lurking in there also is tru2way...

im using the 8300 HD box in diagnostic mode (channel 1999 after you hold select+exit together on the box)

Oh, I thought it was having a QAM tuner that allowed tuning into those hidden channels... haven't been to 1999 in a LONG time, don't recall that it listed channels...or does it simply listed the raw QAM frequency?

Besides, it's all moot in 20 some odd hours.

Theoretically, 20 hours. But, can we speculate as to what specific time they'll open the gates?

Theoretically, 20 hours. But, can we speculate as to what specific time they'll open the gates?

12 midnight. The channels are in the cable lines, they just need to press the switch on the cable boxes and bingo. It happened the same way when they added CNN HD and the others.

That's 12midnight...tonight?? Boy, that would be great if it happens like that.

Holding you to that by the way. ;-)

-Mike

That's 12midnight...tonight?? Boy, that would be great if it happens like that.

Holding you to that by the way. ;-)

-Mike

The rest of S. Manhattan and I do not want to hear bitching and moaning if one of your precious channels does not work. We are getting a big fat 0 new channels so be thankful for what you are getting but remember there are sure to be issues. :)

The rest of S. Manhattan and I do not want to hear bitching and moaning if one of your precious channels does not work. We are getting a big fat 0 new channels so be thankful for what you are getting but remember there are sure to be issues. :)

In fact we have a net -1 channel after they removed Mojo-HD at the beginning of the month! They're not even replacing it with MGM-HD even though the slot has opened up.... :mad:

In fact we have a net -1 channel after they removed Mojo-HD at the beginning of the month! They're not even replacing it with MGM-HD even though the slot has opened up.... :mad:

What happened to MGM HD? Are we not getting it anymore?

What happened to MGM HD? Are we not getting it anymore?

Not in southern manhattan (yet). Even though the QAM slot has opened up to slip another channel in there if they wanted.

Curious, Are they saying when South might get these? I'm North but still.

That's 12midnight...tonight?? Boy, that would be great if it happens like that.

Holding you to that by the way. ;-)

-Mike

That happened last time, I checked around 12:15 AM and the new channels were there. I'm looking forward to SciFi HD and the final episodes of BSG in HD.:)

Curious, Are they saying when South might get these? I'm North but still.

No word as to when the rest of Manhattan might get their HD upgrade. :mad::mad::mad:

For the first time, I'm glad I moved uptown. :) I hope Inwood gets it the same time as everyone else (I know there are smaller "subdivisions" of north and south within TWC). I'll guess we'll see by tomorrow...

not as far as I know (I'm not that familiar with the diagnostic menu of the hdc) I only briefly looked at it once, and could not find the spot to manually tune into frequencies.

You can not manually tune into frequencies on the HDC:mad:All you get is the diagnostic menu that you cant do any thing with.Its on 996 to get it.:(

should be more hidden hd available

Maybe after the upgrade they'll get this right:
In Brooklyn, no Versus HD [794] for days.

OK - this is my last updated list for Northern Manhattan....

I found over 40 (including a bunch of the new ones that the rest of the boros are getting to.... but none the NBC-Universal channels oddly enough)

I'm giving up...

When they 'officially' add everything, I'll update...

So what's the usual SOP when TW turns on new channels...are they going live at midnight? It's been a long road, but we could be as little as 20 minutes away from a huge improvement in service.

Bah Humbug!

So what's the usual SOP when TW turns on new channels...are they going live at midnight? It's been a long road, but we could be as little as 20 minutes away from a huge improvement in service.

may be right after midnight... may be sometime in the morning...

I remember one time you had to input the Ch's on the remote ,it wasn't showing up on the menu for a few days.

Jeopardy Music Plays
:p

thats funny! doo doo doo doo bump brrr brrr bump

i rebooted both boxes, and the changes came in. no guide date yet, but you can tune in,

if you try to change to a channel that is nes via the guide, it wont take you to the channel, but to the closet previous old channel.

you can the do up on the remote.

i rebooted both boxes, and the changes came in. no guide date yet, but you can tune in,

if you try to change to a channel that is nes via the guide, it wont take you to the channel, but to the closet previous old channel.

you can the do up on the remote.

I'm waiting until after the Knicks game to try anything

I started watching the last 30 minutes of 30 dys of night I'll try it in the morning

At 11:30pm tonight the program I was playing back went blank and I got a system message to check out HBOHD on 651. It looks like they changed all the premium HD channels into the 600's, and gave us HD Showcase - unless I just didn't notice it before. Did anything else happen that I might have missed?

Are all these changes (completely underwhelming in SManhattan, obviously) potentially related to why I've had to keep rebooting my box after its periodically lost the ability to record within the last couple of weeks?

well I don't have anything yet, maybe its because my boxes are HDC. anybody with the new mystro boxes got anything yet?

At 11:30pm tonight the program I was playing back went blank and I got a system message to check out HBOHD on 651. It looks like they changed all the premium HD channels into the 600's, and gave us HD Showcase - unless I just didn't notice it before. Did anything else happen that I might have missed?

Are all these changes (completely underwhelming in SManhattan, obviously) potentially related to why I've had to keep rebooting my box after its periodically lost the ability to record within the last couple of weeks?

HD Showcase was added last month

Southern Man. got 1 new channel!

channel 700 HD Movies OnDemand.

hoooray :)

well I don't have anything yet, maybe its because my boxes are HDC. anybody with the new mystro boxes got anything yet?

both my boxes are hdc. im in brooklyn though.

Southern Man. got 1 new channel!

channel 700 HD Movies OnDemand.

hoooray :)

I guess they want to make some money if you guys decide to order some flicks .

still nothing by me (and I'm a little worried - since some of the latest channels that I added to my spreadsheet are suddenly empty when I go to manually tune in)

still nothing by me (and I'm a little worried - since some of the latest channels that I added to my spreadsheet are suddenly empty when I go to manually tune in)

Wow, oh well that is TWC always screwing the customers at the last minute.

Southern Man. got 1 new channel!

channel 700 HD Movies OnDemand.

hoooray :)

...not on my SA8300HD box - nuttin'!:mad:

...not on my SA8300HD box - nuttin'!:mad:

699 HD Showcase and 700 HD PPV On Demand are not available on the 8300HD

great, i tried rebooting one of my boxes...but now I only get channels 2 through 75. what's up with that???

well I don't have anything yet, maybe its because my boxes are HDC. anybody with the new mystro boxes got anything yet?

The HDC box I have are starting to pick up the channels (even tho some like Fox News, Weather Channel, etc. have "call customer care" message).

I don't have anything yet either. Here's hoping the morning brings something...

Also, to take full advantage of the new channels, should I trade in my 8300 for a newer box?

great, i tried rebooting one of my boxes...but now I only get channels 2 through 75. what's up with that???

you rebooted while they are setting up the update - so your box didn't get the digital info it needs to map the channels.

I don't have anything yet either. Here's hoping the morning brings something...

Also, to take full advantage of the new channels, should I trade in my 8300 for a newer box?

you only need the 8300hdc if you want the HD On Demand offerings.

you rebooted while they are setting up the update - so your box didn't get the digital info it needs to map the channels.


I rebooted again, and it's back to normal. No new channels yet. I guess I'll check it out again tomorrow night.

I rebooted again, and it's back to normal. No new channels yet. I guess I'll check it out again tomorrow night.

I was being optimistic :o

I'm getting the new stuff this morning when I checked at 6:30AM.
701,743,744 are not coming in. No complaints here.

-Mike

*edit: there are other channels not showing.

Harlem here which is... Northern Manhattan? (get confused still :o).

Went to bed at 2:30AM last night and nuthin'. This morning I'm setting up my SA-8300 HD-DVR to record "Price Is Right" on 702 when I see 701 is there and voala! Dozens of new channels available on both the 600's and 700's. I was almost out the door when I found out the updated channels but spent a few minutes checking out stuff. A few channels were grayed out (ABC Family, Fox News HD, Fox Business Channel HD, etc.) but most of them were working fine. I subscribe to HBO and Showtime so the extra HD channels were cool. Watched a few seconds of "Third Watch" on A&E... eeeeewww, stretched HD. A&E HD = TBS HD (i.e. useless). USA HD looked awesome though, so my "SVU" repeat addiction is about to kick into high gear again.

I'm as poe'd at TWC as everybody else that it took this long for HD to show up in force in Manhattan. But, for what its worth, THANK YOU TIME WARNER CABLE! You've made me a happy panda! :)

I live on 87th and broadway area. Woke up this morning and got an early hanukkah present, all these new HD channels. There are so many now. Yeah TWC, you finally did something right.

Now if I can just convince the wife to get a dog or clean up the apt, I will be in heaven.

i was pestering twc about the big ten network a month ago. really wanted it to show up early for a game, so i was calling daily for updates. Two seperate people said that in mid november you COULD get the big ten network (472) but that my hd dvr (8300) would not get it, and i had to upgrade my box. they said my mystro box would get it however.

well, the mystro box never got it, and i'v ebeen told by multiple guys on the street they dont know why that would be.

any thoughts? and does anyone see ch 472?

Well we got the updated Ch's :)a couple of gray stations but to be expected CNBC looks nice, now I can watch the Economic disaster properly.
Where can I find the new Ch lineup?

I still have nothing on my lineup in Bayside, Queens. Although I checked using my QAM tuner and the stations are there.

i was pestering twc about the big ten network a month ago. really wanted it to show up early for a game, so i was calling daily for updates. Two seperate people said that in mid november you COULD get the big ten network (472) but that my hd dvr (8300) would not get it, and i had to upgrade my box. they said my mystro box would get it however.

well, the mystro box never got it, and i'v ebeen told by multiple guys on the street they dont know why that would be.

any thoughts? and does anyone see ch 472?

I have had Big Ten in Kew Gardens for a while now with no problems with my Passport software and SA 8300HD dvr box. I don't understand why they said you would have upgrade you stb.

Anyone in Northern Manhattan NOT getting 701? I took a few minutes to call TW and spoke with TechSupport; they had me do the usual unplug and resend of signal but still no 701 and a couple of others. I thanked them and said I would give it some time since this roll-out just happened.

-Mike

The following list is what should be added today. The underlined are postponed adds, highlighted are the channels that appeared this morning, the rest are still missing after a reboot.


Effective December 17th: We will launch NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers and TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers . VS/Golf HD on 773 will change to Golf HD. EWTN will move from 28 to 59. We will launch A&E HD on 729, Speed HD on 786, TLC HD on 739, Versus HD on 781, Weather Channel HD on 735, Big Ten Network HD on 472,USA HD on 730, Nick HD on 732, History HD on 748, Science HD on 777, Lifetime Movie Network HD on 752 and Disney HD on 738

Only 5 adds have been completed.:confused:

Anyone in Northern Manhattan NOT getting 701? I took a few minutes to call TW and spoke with TechSupport; they had me do the usual unplug and resend of signal but still no 701 and a couple of others. I thanked them and said I would give it some time since this roll-out just happened.

-Mike


I got everything except NY1HD, I am not impressed with the picture quality, it looks like that the channels suffer blur, and the picture quality is soft, and the problem its not with my TVs.

I got everything except NY1HD, I am not impressed with the picture quality, it looks like that the channels suffer blur, and the picture quality is soft, and the problem its not with my TVs.


I have NY1. I was thinking the same exact thing the blur and the soft Pq on many ch's

Hi,
I got a postcard in the mail the other day from TWCNYC about buying one on demand movie at regular price and getting the second for a $1. Of course I lost the postcard. Does anyone have info on how to redeem this?

Is anyone getting Lifetime and/or Fuse in N Manhattan? I don't plan on watching either channel but I have this thing in which if I suppose to get them, I would like to see them there.

may be right after midnight... may be sometime in the morning...

Looked about 1 AM last night, no new channels. BUT, they be there this AM!

The usual oddities, like Showtime HD channels are all gray except one (I subscribe). Toon has no guide data. There are 3 slots with no channel listed. Did a real quick count from 651 to 799 and it seems 88 HD channels.

699 HD Showcase and 700 HD PPV On Demand are not available on the 8300HD

My guess is those are SDV channels that are only available to those with ODN... which means HDC boxes.

The GOOD news is that they did this without resorting to forcing MDN on all 8300HD boxes. We get to keep passport for the time being.

i was pestering twc about the big ten network a month ago. really wanted it to show up early for a game, so i was calling daily for updates. Two seperate people said that in mid november you COULD get the big ten network (472) but that my hd dvr (8300) would not get it, and i had to upgrade my box. they said my mystro box would get it however.

well, the mystro box never got it, and i'v ebeen told by multiple guys on the street they dont know why that would be.

any thoughts? and does anyone see ch 472?

ODN goes on new 8300HDC boxes. Anyone with a HDC has ODN. MDN is what most refer to as "mystro" and as far as I can tell, it is NOT implemented in the NYC market. MDN is meant for the 8300HD boxes. THANK GOD we can still keep passport on HD boxes... although at some point that will probably change.

Anyone in Northern Manhattan NOT getting 701? I took a few minutes to call TW and spoke with TechSupport; they had me do the usual unplug and resend of signal but still no 701 and a couple of others. I thanked them and said I would give it some time since this roll-out just happened.

-Mike

Funny, as of 30 minutes ago, I do get 701. It LOOKS LIKE they are sending a 4:3 HD signal (studio)... as in it does appear to have additional resolution (i.e. MUCH better picture than on 01).

Some channels are not mapped correctly (I'm sure that'll get fixed soon)

666 Showtime HD
667 Show2 HD
674 The Movie Channel HD
738 ABC Family HD
(These 4 are available when manually tuned in)

743 Fox Business News HD
744 Fox News HD
752 The Learning Channel HD
763 Biography HD
772 The Weather Channel HD
792 ESPNews HD
(these 6 are not mapped to any freq - and I couldn't find them before today...)

784 Hallmark Movie Network HD (something is suddenly screwed up with this one)


Also, getting a subscription notice on 795 NHL Network even though im supposed to get it

when i reset my non-dvr hd box it says "mystro" - i live on the UWS.

so, not knowing ODN and MDN, is it recommended i get a new hd dvr from twc?

anyone on the UWS getting 472 (big 10 network)?

anyone on the UWS getting 472 (big 10 network)?

yes - i am getting all channels that were announced except the ones i listed above

Is anyone getting Lifetime and/or Fuse in N Manhattan? I don't plan on watching either channel but I have this thing in which if I suppose to get them, I would like to see them there.

Did not see them in the guide either - probably should have been listed with the postponed channels

I still have nothing on my lineup in Bayside, Queens. Although I checked using my QAM tuner and the stations are there.
I'm off Bell in the 40's and I'm seeing all the new channels, the guide doesnt show show listings yet. I have an 8300hd dvr box btw with passport.

Cable Ops Agree To Short Digital Migration Freeze (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6623219.html)

By Ted Hearn -- Multichannel News, 12/16/2008 4:01:00 PM

Washington -- All major U.S. cable operators have agreed to stop moving nearly all channels from analog to digital tiers during the first two months of 2009 to minimize potential consumer confusion about the federally mandated shut off of over-the-air analog TV signals on Feb. 17, 2009.

...The channel migration freeze came with some caveats.

Cable operators that have contractual obligations to move channels and operators that gave notice to customers about such moves prior to Dec. 10 won't be covered by the freeze commitment...

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...Did a real quick count from 651 to 799 and it seems 88 HD channels.
I remember here in NY I had cable from before the Time Warner takeover, we had maybe 63 channels back then(when I was a baby we even had the HBO box!), when I firstgot HD with TWC 3 years ago I had what 16 channels I think and was paying 12 bucks extra a month for the hd package? So eventhough we don't have nearly the amount of HD channels Vios or Cablevision offers, and most of the dumb HD channels we do get are just that... dumb. QVC in hd anyone? UGH! But somewhere deep inside of me, I'm pleased with the growth, however slow it's been in getting more HD to us.

I did a quick scan from a listing I made when they announced all the new HD channels. Confirming what Berk says, I find channels there (in HD), but in gray for 763(BIO), 792(ESPN News), 743(Fox Bus), 744(Fox News), 752(Learning), and 772(Weather). Completely missing are 787, 684, 691, 739, 712, 762, 706, 685, 736. Yes, I know some were delayed, but I don't recall it being this many.

733 QVC HD is only sending SD signals. As if I really care!

I then realize that it's actually pointless to kvetch too much, we HAVE gotten a big bunch of new HD and many of them that are working are among the ones I want in HD. I[m sure over the next few weeks, some of these will work out... the only ones I am going to call them about are the SHO channels because I pay extra for that stuff.

Now I wonder about the POD channels for the premiums.

Cable Ops Agree To Short Digital Migration Freeze (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6623219.html)

By Ted Hearn -- Multichannel News, 12/16/2008 4:01:00 PM

Washington -- All major U.S. cable operators have agreed to stop moving nearly all channels from analog to digital tiers during the first two months of 2009 to minimize potential consumer confusion about the federally mandated shut off of over-the-air analog TV signals on Feb. 17, 2009.

...The channel migration freeze came with some caveats.

Cable operators that have contractual obligations to move channels and operators that gave notice to customers about such moves prior to Dec. 10 won't be covered by the freeze commitment...

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This is meaningless crap in our market. The issue they say has to to with those who won't use a STB. Uh, everything except the locals are scrambled anyway, so what's the point (for us)?

I did a quick scan from a listing I made when they announced all the new HD channels. Confirming what Berk says, I find channels there (in HD), but in gray for 763(BIO), 792(ESPN News), 743(Fox Bus), 744(Fox News), 752(Learning), and 772(Weather). Completely missing are 787, 684, 691, 739, 712, 762, 706, 685, 736. Yes, I know some were delayed, but I don't recall it being this many.

733 QVC HD is only sending SD signals. As if I really care!

I then realize that it's actually pointless to kvetch too much, we HAVE gotten a big bunch of new HD and many of them that are working are among the ones I want in HD. I[m sure over the next few weeks, some of these will work out... the only ones I am going to call them about are the SHO channels because I pay extra for that stuff.

Now I wonder about the POD channels for the premiums.

Here's the most recent postponed announcement list.

The previously scheduled launches of Africa Channel HD, HSN HD, Spike HD, Nick HD, and NBA TV HD on December 17th in N. Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Mt. Vernon, and in Woodside, Elmhurst, and Maspeth on December 22nd, has been postponed.

They also said before that Sleuth and Chiller would be postponed

thats 7...

The other 2 are Fuse and Lifetime

Found ESPNNews HD, Weather Channel HD, and The Learning Channel HD - they just aren't mapped correctly

EDIT: Same with Fox News HD, Fox Business HD, and Biography Hd

Northern Manhattan Spreadsheet

They messed up on the mapping for a bunch of HD channels - all detailed above - they also missed on some of the SD channels they added (all foreign language)

I am at 83rd & York and all I have received is that the premium channels have been moved to 650+. I called Time Warner and after putting me on hold for 5 minutes the tech support rep told me that there are no HDTV channel additions scheduled for today!!!!! MY reply is unprintable.

I am at 83rd & York and all I have received is that the premium channels have been moved to 650+. I called Time Warner and after putting me on hold for 5 minutes the tech support rep told me that there are no HDTV channel additions scheduled for today!!!!! MY reply is unprintable.

Unfortunately, I think you are technically in southern Manhattan. The line I believe is at 86th on the east side, 79th on the west side.

I am at 83rd & York and all I have received is that the premium channels have been moved to 650+. I called Time Warner and after putting me on hold for 5 minutes the tech support rep told me that there are no HDTV channel additions scheduled for today!!!!! MY reply is unprintable.

You are Southern Manhattan
(the 'line' is north of w79th st on the west side and e86th st on the east side)

You are Southern Manhattan
(the 'line' is north of w79th st on the west side and e86th st on the east side)

Bummer!

HD channels that other Time Warner regions have that we don't:

HD Adult OnDemand
NBA TV-HD
The Outdoor Channel-HD

(also some have FUSE-HD, but it seems the forgot to add it to the Northern Manhattan lineup)

This is meaningless crap in our market. The issue they say has to to with those who won't use a STB. Uh, everything except the locals are scrambled anyway, so what's the point (for us)?

Lets hope you are right, I am getting really pissed off with TWC and there slowness in S. Manhattan, they could have had people returning their analog boxes way before now but they had to wait to the last minute. :mad:

Lets hope you are right, I am getting really pissed off with TWC and there slowness in S. Manhattan, they could have had people returning their analog boxes way before now but they had to wait to the last minute. :mad:

last minute?

last minute?

Meaning now they have all these channels they can give us but S. Manhattan is still not ready. I have had an HD TV for 6 or 7 yrs and this is really getting ridiculous

Meaning now they have all these channels they can give us but S. Manhattan is still not ready. I have had an HD TV for 6 or 7 yrs and this is really getting ridiculous

well when you have one management controlling a very large cable system throughout nyc - they couldn't do everything at once.

Finally got channels showing up on my lineup

686 C&I
689 Style
692 G4
715 CNC
716 USA
717 SCIFI
718 BRAVO
724 E!
733 QVC
790 TVONE
796 MGM

Was anyone told MGM was a premium? Because it has the subscription thing, which implies I'll need to rejoin the HDXtraverse to get it. Still no guide data though.

What happened to Fuse and Lifetime though? I know Spike, Africa, Nick, and NBA were postponed.

Finally got channels showing up on my lineup

686 C&I
689 Style
692 G4
715 CNC
716 USA
717 SCIFI
718 BRAVO
724 E!
733 QVC
790 TVONE
796 MGM

Was anyone told MGM was a premium? Because it has the subscription thing, which implies I'll need to rejoin the HDXtraverse to get it. Still no guide data though.

What happened to Fuse and Lifetime though? I know Spike, Africa, Nick, and NBA were postponed.

They never explicitly said MGMHD would be on the HDXtra tier - but its not surprising.

And no idea what happened to Fuse and Lifetime...

anyone on the UWS getting 472 (big 10 network)?

No donot get 472. May be because im in s.man.;). We got a big O. as in Zreo:rolleyes:

well when you have one management controlling a very large cable system throughout nyc - they couldn't do everything at once.

Don't make excuses for them, lol. They could have sent a letter a year ago asking people to return their boxes by a specific date, that would have given plenty of time. I am unclear whether there is any more to this other than getting rid of the analog channels and a box swap. A company as large as TWC should be able to do more then one thing at a time.

Don't make excuses for them, lol. They could have sent a letter a year ago asking people to return their boxes by a specific date, that would have given plenty of time. I am unclear whether there is any more to this other than getting rid of the analog channels and a box swap. A company as large as TWC should be able to do more then one thing at a time.

Each TWC region practically operates independently.

TWC-NY/NJ is one biggie.... And 'converting' that many people requires many boxes - a supply that probably didn't exist all at one time.

Finally got channels showing up on my lineup

686 C&I
689 Style
692 G4
715 CNC
716 USA
717 SCIFI
718 BRAVO
724 E!
733 QVC
790 TVONE
796 MGM

Was anyone told MGM was a premium? Because it has the subscription thing, which implies I'll need to rejoin the HDXtraverse to get it. Still no guide data though.

What happened to Fuse and Lifetime though? I know Spike, Africa, Nick, and NBA were postponed.

Weren't we supposed to get Golf HD?

Has the channel guide data updated with programming for the new channels?

What happened to Fuse and Lifetime though? I know Spike, Africa, Nick, and NBA were postponed.

is it known why they postponed spike? can we expect it in the future?

Weren't we supposed to get Golf HD?

i have it on 779 in brooklyn.

when does twc update their listing on the web site?

Has the channel guide data updated with programming for the new channels?

it has for mine.

northern Manhattan here. i used to get some channels on ClearQAM, but after the "upgrade" my Olevia's scan can only pick 3 QAM channels (couldnt find them, though!). arent the Cable Cos supposed to provide the 7 HD networks on ClearQAM? either TWC messed up with ClearQAM, or my Olevia went kaput... :-\

Each TWC region practically operates independently.

TWC-NY/NJ is one biggie.... And 'converting' that many people requires many boxes - a supply that probably didn't exist all at one time.

They should have lots of extra digital boxes within the NY/NJ area with people switching to FIOS! (esp. in NJ!!)

Is anyone else seeing vertical stripe artifacts on 686/C&I?

Is anyone else seeing vertical stripe artifacts on 686/C&I?

Yes, plus I was watching this Ch earlier it was like looking through a screen

Noticed that Lifetime HD and Fuse HD are nowhere to be found on the newly updated TWCNYC channel guide listing. If they are not made available real soon that would make their previous claim to offer 100 HD channels in NYC by year's end short by about nine channels. http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx

whats the deal with Hallmark Movie?

I'm now getting a Subscription Service notice on 784 Hallmark Movie HD - anyone else?
(also, they moved its freq signal - I'll have an updated spreadsheet from what I posted earlier today... it seems they messed around a bit more)

also, ABC Family is still being mapped incorrectly...

They are going to have to come up with a better menu system. Trying to remember what Ch is where is nuts even with the old (yesterday) stations was a bit much

No Sound on:
655 HBO Comedy HD
662 WoMAX HD
663 @MAX HD

So one of my 8300HD boxes seems to have updated ok with all the new channels. However, the other one is stuck in some kind of alien countdown. It says r03F...r03E...r03D...and so on endlessly. I tried holding the power button to boot it, but it doesn't seem to work. I even unplugged the power and cable wires for a minute, but the countdown resumed after I plugged them back in. Any idea what's going on?

Has anyone had issues with heavy color bleeding recently?
As of thismorning my 3 year old sony wega hd tube tv has been fine, better than rock solid. Cnn this morning in HD was bleeding red heavily, every other channel was fine.

Now, a few hours later the gamma setting seems to be way off for me, here in bayside with a 8300hd dvr box, not just on every channel but even for the dvr screen where it's now so bright its not as easy as it used to be to read the recorded shows list. All the channels have gone to crap with the oversaturation/gamma/hue issues.

I'm a techie and work as a video editor. I trouble shot, checked the tv settings,colors hue etc. everything is set at factory defaults yet im still having this issue.

I popped a dvd in the player and it looks to be playing fine for a dvd.

So what's wrong??? Usually in my experience if a tv is dying you'll see it slowly start bleeding, getting soft etc. but this came straight out of nowhere.

SO is this a box issue? A tv issue? Figures that my warranty expired about a month ago too.

Ofcourse I'm asking my question here in the TWC thread because the TWCNYC thread is pretty much the only spot I visit here and I trust the vets here.

Thanks in advance guys, although I figure I'm stuck watching TopChef in crappy HD now tonight :(

No Sound on:
655 HBO Comedy HD
662 WoMAX HD
663 @MAX HD

Also no sound in ToonHD (760)

I popped a dvd in the player and it looks to be playing fine for a dvd.

That alone tells you the Wega is fine. It's a cable box issue, so you might have to get a new one.

Anyone else missing 701. No picture and no sound, the guide and info do come up. Also no sound on 655 HBOcHD.:mad:

That alone tells you the Wega is fine. It's a cable box issue, so you might have to get a new one.

That's what I figured, and hoped for.
I still feel like I have to find a dvd with heavy red since thats my biggest issues watching tv right to look into it.
Doubtful that it could be the wires though right? (nope tried sd and hd cables, all the same issue.)

Thanks for the incredibly speedy reply.

That's what I figured, and hoped for.
I still feel like I have to find a dvd with heavy red since thats my biggest issues watching tv right to look into it.
Doubtful that it could be the wires though right?
Thanks for the incredibly speedy reply.
I agree with Dad and would add though, before you swap out the box, have you tried changing the cables going from the box to the display? Use the DVD cables since you know they work.

Ditto on the sound also UWS

Well the premiums moved to the 600's in S. Manhattan and HD Movies on demand does not work, thanks a lot TW.

It looks like we also have enhanced tv in north manhattan. I was watching T-3 on FXHD and when I switched channels the startover icon popped up.

It looks like they have a lot of bugs to fix, which is to be expected. I'll give them until Dec. 22 to fix them. By then they should have worked out the problems and moved on the dealing with the QS areas.

Problems on my HDC box in Harlem include:

No audio on 655
Artifacts on 686 (lol it's like a little matrix screen)
No Picture/Audio on 701
No Audio on 760
No Picture/Audio on 779
784 with a Call Customer care screen (have the SD Feed going)
No Picture/Audio on 794
795 with a Call Customer care screen (have the SD Feed going)
And this odditiy: I have Showtime HD but don't subscribe to that premium (no other Showtime HD or SD channels are on which is correct)

I know my brother has a 8300HD box with different problems. Also his 8300HD box doesn't have Start Over while mine does (maybe another thing unique to mystro boxes)
BTW: I wonder if Lifetime and Fuse will appear on the came freq when MLB Network comes on? That could be possibly why it is delayed.

I don't believe it...

They actually put CSPAN2 back on the analog lineup - channel 39

I agree with Dad and would add though, before you swap out the box, have you tried changing the cables going from the box to the display? Use the DVD cables since you know they work.

My TV is blinking :(
five blinks, which after an exhaustive searchon google I found this
"Five blinks - AKB circuit (automatic kine bias), the timer/standby indicator blinks for about 30 seconds then goes to the self-diagnosis function. Something is wrong with the video. Check video out, Q705, 732, 761 and other components on the C board, also check Q218, 219, 220 on the A board. In addition, unit could be in IK blanking, try turning up screen slightly."


:/ I suck with circuitry and understanding what it all means.
Some reco's for other sony blinking light issues said to leave the unit unplugged for 4 hours to let the tv fully reset itself/discharge any built up static electricity or some bs.

Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day as I can't afford to repair my baby. I've also gone ahead and blown compressed air into the unplugged unit to clear the vents etc.

I know my brother has a 8300HD box with different problems. Also his 8300HD box doesn't have Start Over while mine does (maybe another thing unique to mystro boxes)
BTW: I wonder if Lifetime and Fuse will appear on the came freq when MLB Network comes on? That could be possibly why it is delayed.

I have an 8300 with no start overfeature. I have passport software and not Mystro. I am under the impression that the 8300hd box is incapable of being able to offer HD VODservice as well as Start Over, he 8300hdc however is the newer version of the box and is capable of both as you know.

Northern Manhattan spreadsheet, 12/17/08 version 2

Over the past few weeks, I've noticed something with the Discovery channels (Discovery, Science, Animal Planet). With some programs, there are side bars which appear to be half as wide as the side bars on SD programming. If the program is listed as HDTV, why is it not filling up my screen?

Over the past few weeks, I've noticed something with the Discovery channels (Discovery, Science, Animal Planet). With some programs, there are side bars which appear to be half as wide as the side bars on SD programming. If the program is listed as HDTV, why is it not filling up my screen?

HD and 16:9 dont go hand-in-hand

I've see the partially zoomed in content that you've described... why are they doing it? not really sure - i've never watched it long enough to decide if it was upconverted SD or actual HD that just wasnt made in 16:9...

HD and 16:9 dont go hand-in-hand

I've see the partially zoomed in content that you've described... why are they doing it? not really sure - i've never watched it long enough to decide if it was upconverted SD or actual HD that just wasnt made in 16:9...

"Slightly stretched" SD, to make it less obvious, was my first thought. Maybe you're right and it's just HD not made in 16:9. I just hope it doesn't become a "trend".

"Slightly stretched" SD, to make it less obvious, was my first thought. Maybe you're right and it's just HD not made in 16:9. I just hope it doesn't become a "trend".

nah - its not slightly stretched (only the turner owned channels stretch)

i'm pretty sure its partially zoomed in - its their compromise by going to 14:9.. pretty sure its still upconverted SD though

Ok, thanks. I wanted to ask a few weeks ago, but forgot about it until I noticed it again last night.

One more thing, I've noticed since I had my 4250 replaced by a 3250 last December (the 4250 was sluggish with the mystro software). Usually in darker scenes or when the screen is black, I notice faint green & pinkish bars moving up the screen on all of the channels, HD & SD.

I also hear a slight hum from time to time. I don't hear that hum or see the green/pink "bars" when I use my PS3, Wii or Oppo HDMI DVD player. Should I have the box replaced? Sometimes it bothers me & sometimes it doesn't. Could these problems be related to the box, weak signal or an "outside" problem?

Ok, thanks. I wanted to ask a few weeks ago, but forgot about it until I noticed it again last night.

One more thing, I've noticed since I had my 4250 replaced by a 3250 last December (the 4250 was sluggish with the mystro software). Usually in darker scenes or when the screen is black, I notice faint green & pinkish bars moving up the screen on all of the channels, HD & SD.

I also hear a slight hum from time to time. I don't hear that hum or see the green/pink "bars" when I use my PS3, Wii or Oppo HDMI DVD player. Should I have the box replaced? Sometimes it bothers me & sometimes it doesn't. Could these problems be related to the box, weak signal or an "outside" problem?

definitely sounds like a box problem

794 VersusHD working now


Edit: well... it was...

My TV is blinking :(
five blinks, which after an exhaustive searchon google I found this
"Five blinks - AKB circuit (automatic kine bias), the timer/standby indicator blinks for about 30 seconds then goes to the self-diagnosis function. Something is wrong with the video. Check video out, Q705, 732, 761 and other components on the C board, also check Q218, 219, 220 on the A board. In addition, unit could be in IK blanking, try turning up screen slightly."


Sounds like the dreaded "You have a Sony that won't power on and the standby light blinks..."

Read the following thread for details:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=928945

Information received yesterday after I lost it with the tech support rep and used the email address for Melinda Witmer. I guess it helps if you are involved with a condo which is thinking about switching to FIOS which is when they lied (sorry 'mispoke') about guaranteeing 100 HD channels by the end of the year.

For those of us in southern Manhattan (even those like me who thought they lived in northern Manhattan)

Melinda Witmer passed me your email. I run the NYC region and Victor Cruz is part of my team. As we speak we are finalizing our plan to launch the added HD coverage in your area no later than January 31st at which time all of NYC will have 100 channels of HD available for their viewing pleasure. I hope this information is helpful.

Northern Manhattan spreadsheet, 12/17/08 version 2
Your spreadsheet gets snazzier all the time. Appreciate the effort, although haven't compared it with my S.Manhattan lineup yet.

Wondered about your diagnostic procedure for viewing channel data and using Excel. Assume you enter each channel number one at time while in diagnostics? Also, are all channels grouped sequentially by frequency or are they scattered--say, a foreign language SD channel filling out a 3-channel HDTV frequency block--and you then use Excel's data-grouping search/sort feature? -- John

Your spreadsheet gets snazzier all the time. Appreciate the effort, although haven't compared it with my S.Manhattan lineup yet.

Wondered about your diagnostic procedure for viewing channel data and using Excel. Assume you enter each channel number one at time while in diagnostics? Also, are all channels grouped sequentially by frequency or are they scattered--say, a foreign language SD channel filling out a 3-channel HDTV frequency block--and you then use Excel's data-grouping search/sort feature? -- John

Well... way back when I first did it, it was a one at a time going channel-by-channel procedure. Then, after sorting by freq, I tried to find hidden stuff in the gaps. The channels do tend to be groups with their "own".

I first started to just find hidden HD channels (back when 709/711 were available only via diagnostic mode). Eventually I wanted to know what else was in there, and started to understand what was going on from scratch.

Everyone once in a while, I did a random check to see if anything changed (usually at an update time). I went a bit crazy the last few weeks....

Ok, thanks. I wanted to ask a few weeks ago, but forgot about it until I noticed it again last night.

One more thing, I've noticed since I had my 4250 replaced by a 3250 last December (the 4250 was sluggish with the mystro software). Usually in darker scenes or when the screen is black, I notice faint green & pinkish bars moving up the screen on all of the channels, HD & SD.

I also hear a slight hum from time to time. I don't hear that hum or see the green/pink "bars" when I use my PS3, Wii or Oppo HDMI DVD player. Should I have the box replaced? Sometimes it bothers me & sometimes it doesn't. Could these problems be related to the box, weak signal or an "outside" problem?

What kind of TV do you have? I had a similar problem in the past. It was on my old Sony CRT HDTV, I had to go into the service menu and turn the TV's internal HD processor off. It was an interlacing problem that usually only occurs on CRT's from what I understand. Some boxes I had didn't do it but when I first got the 8300HD that is when it started.

Information received yesterday after I lost it with the tech support rep and used the email address for Melinda Witmer. I guess it helps if you are involved with a condo which is thinking about switching to FIOS which is when they lied (sorry 'mispoke') about guaranteeing 100 HD channels by the end of the year.

For those of us in southern Manhattan (even those like me who thought they lived in northern Manhattan)

Melinda Witmer passed me your email. I run the NYC region and Victor Cruz is part of my team. As we speak we are finalizing our plan to launch the added HD coverage in your area no later than January 31st at which time all of NYC will have 100 channels of HD available for their viewing pleasure. I hope this information is helpful.

From EngadgetHD

Cable operators agree to freeze analog-to-digital moves until after cutover

by Darren Murph, posted Dec 18th 2008 at 8:27AM
Cable companies have been moving analog stations to digital tiers for quite some time now, using the shifts to free up bandwidth and expand the amount of stations they carry. Separately, broadcast stations (you know, those ones you can pick up with an OTA antenna) are being forced to beam out signals in digital-only this coming February. The two scenarios have nothing to do with one another, but it's evidently difficult for the average consumer to grasp that -- particularly when cable carriers are accelerating analog-to-digital transitions in order to "encourage" the purchase of digital tiers and corresponding set-top-boxes. To that end, the National Cable & Telecommunications Association has agreed that all cable companies will freeze their own personal switchovers until the national broadcast cutover is complete, which will hopefully solve some of the confusion. We have a hard time believing outfits like Comcast signed on without a fight, but either way, it looks like those digital tiers won't be growing out of control between December 31st and February 17th, 2009.

Ask her if this will affect the Jan 31 date, sounds like it will

From EngadgetHD

Cable operators agree to freeze analog-to-digital moves until after cutover

by Darren Murph, posted Dec 18th 2008 at 8:27AM
Cable companies have been moving analog stations to digital tiers for quite some time now, using the shifts to free up bandwidth and expand the amount of stations they carry. Separately, broadcast stations (you know, those ones you can pick up with an OTA antenna) are being forced to beam out signals in digital-only this coming February. The two scenarios have nothing to do with one another, but it's evidently difficult for the average consumer to grasp that -- particularly when cable carriers are accelerating analog-to-digital transitions in order to "encourage" the purchase of digital tiers and corresponding set-top-boxes. To that end, the National Cable & Telecommunications Association has agreed that all cable companies will freeze their own personal switchovers until the national broadcast cutover is complete, which will hopefully solve some of the confusion. We have a hard time believing outfits like Comcast signed on without a fight, but either way, it looks like those digital tiers won't be growing out of control between December 31st and February 17th, 2009.

Ask her if this will affect the Jan 31 date, sounds like it will

I read somewhere that any company that already gave notice to its customers weeks beforehand would not be affected by this.

I read somewhere that any company that already gave notice to its customers weeks beforehand would not be affected by this.

Just had confirmation from Howard Szarfarc who runs the New York region that he has authorized the go ahead for southern Manhattan which will be completed by January 31, 2009.

Don't ask me why I am suddenly in communication with top management at Time Warner Cable - but maybe it has something to do with the fact that FIOS may be available in our building soon.

Just had confirmation from Howard Szarfarc who runs the New York region that he has authorized the go ahead for southern Manhattan which will be completed by January 31, 2009.

Don't ask me why I am suddenly in communication with top management at Time Warner Cable - but maybe it has something to do with the fact that FIOS may be available in our building soon.

That is GREAT news! Thanks for your efforts here....

It's gonna be a long month-and-a-half for us "southern" Manhattan-ites. :mad: (Funny thing is that normally I would consider sourthern manhattan anywhere below 14th St., but I guess TWC has different standards! ;) )

Yes, I am still getting over the fact that 83rd Street is in southern Manhattan........but only on the East Side!

Yes, I am still getting over the fact that 83rd Street is in southern Manhattan........but only on the East Side!

Yep -- I guess you just missed it by a few blocks. I, in the West Village, am out of luck by any sense of the imagination. ;)

Just had confirmation from Howard Szarfarc who runs the New York region that he has authorized the go ahead for southern Manhattan which will be completed by January 31, 2009.

Don't ask me why I am suddenly in communication with top management at Time Warner Cable - but maybe it has something to do with the fact that FIOS may be available in our building soon.

Good chance it is because of FIOS coming to your building. Glad you got confirmation, thanks for your efforts.

Just had confirmation from Howard Szarfarc who runs the New York region that he has authorized the go ahead for southern Manhattan which will be completed by January 31, 2009.

Don't ask me why I am suddenly in communication with top management at Time Warner Cable - but maybe it has something to do with the fact that FIOS may be available in our building soon.

Since you already published his name, I'll jump in as well... Howard was instrumental in getting my service issue elevated to the right person and ultimately resolved. I found his name by sifting through press releases and corporate reports. He was surprisingly responsive to my complaint and kept me informed every step of the way.

Tier-1 and Tier-3 tech support were completely useless.

You're absolutely right... It's all about FIOS.

A_C

Yep -- I guess you just missed it by a few blocks. I, in the West Village, am out of luck by any sense of the imagination. ;)

You guys can thank NYC for making that division 40 years ago when the original cable franchises were set up

gonna ask this again... has any of you lost the ClearQAM channels? i've got none since the upgrade. i didnt care for the SD ones, but i enjoy to have the networks in HD for free. i could try an HD antenna but signal will be crap from Inwood.

since the hd channel update, wcbs is skipping. should i call twc or will it be fixed?

What kind of TV do you have? I had a similar problem in the past. It was on my old Sony CRT HDTV, I had to go into the service menu and turn the TV's internal HD processor off. It was an interlacing problem that usually only occurs on CRT's from what I understand. Some boxes I had didn't do it but when I first got the 8300HD that is when it started.

I have a LCD, SONY BRAVIA KDL-32XBR4. I didn't have this issue with the 4250 which I originally got in Oct. 2007 when I upgraded to HD service. If it wasn't for the buggy Mystro software, I would have kept it. I miss the higher-resolution guide and I especially miss the black bars on the SD channels. I hate those gray side bars with the 3250.

I'm not too comfortable messing around with the service menu. I read a post on this forum about someone who needed a service call after changing a setting. Maybe the best solution would be to take a second chance on the 4250. Does anyone have one, does it respond faster to channel inputs?

Anyway, thanks for pointing me in a new direction.

I notice i started to recieve enhance tv start over

Breaking News..... Start Over is now in Manhattan. so it on CNN-HD. and is working

Breaking News..... Start Over is now in Manhattan. so it on CNN-HD. and is working

Think we'll ever be able to fast-forward threw Start Over one day?

Think we'll ever be able to fast-forward threw Start Over one day?never happen

I have a LCD, SONY BRAVIA KDL-32XBR4. I didn't have this issue with the 4250 which I originally got in Oct. 2007 when I upgraded to HD service. If it wasn't for the buggy Mystro software, I would have kept it. I miss the higher-resolution guide and I especially miss the black bars on the SD channels. I hate those gray side bars with the 3250.

I'm not too comfortable messing around with the service menu. I read a post on this forum about someone who needed a service call after changing a setting. Maybe the best solution would be to take a second chance on the 4250. Does anyone have one, does it respond faster to channel inputs?

Anyway, thanks for pointing me in a new direction.

Since you do not have a CRT it is probably something else. This is a good Sony TV forum
http://www.agoraquest.com/
This site helped me correct the problem with my old TV.
good luck

I have start over cant say when i got it, working great. I may never use it but who knows?? Im on the UWS.I have the 8300HDC.

Lets hope you are right, I am getting really pissed off with TWC and there slowness in S. Manhattan, they could have had people returning their analog boxes way before now but they had to wait to the last minute. :mad:

Oh don't get me started about that... Over 10 years ago I was helping my folks with their cable account and was told quite clearly they had a plan to eliminate all the analog channels... I was having my folks analog box swapped for a digital one. The BIG DEAL with doing that way back then was that if one subscribed to HBO one got only one channel on analog, but 7 on digital. Plus one got all the music choice selections with a digital box. PLUS there were many "regular" cable channels that one could only get with a digital box.

TWC 1000% dragged their heels doing what they KNEW they had to do. AND they decided to start this process in the outer boroughs before Manhattan... probably because they would have access to competitors long before we in Manhattan would have access. Hell, most of us can't do satellite or OTA.

While I sympathize with those in the south, you guys got RR access a whole 2 YEARS before I did; the fact that you'll probably get all the HD in 6 months puts you WTF ahead of us in the north!

That is GREAT news! Thanks for your efforts here....

It's gonna be a long month-and-a-half for us "southern" Manhattan-ites. :mad: (Funny thing is that normally I would consider sourthern manhattan anywhere below 14th St., but I guess TWC has different standards! ;) )

No sh*t! Like "Upper West Side" seems to start around 42nd street...

Then again, I LIKE sourthern Manhattan!

Oh don't get me started about that... Over 10 years ago I was helping my folks with their cable account and was told quite clearly they had a plan to eliminate all the analog channels... I was having my folks analog box swapped for a digital one. The BIG DEAL with doing that way back then was that if one subscribed to HBO one got only one channel on analog, but 7 on digital. Plus one got all the music choice selections with a digital box. PLUS there were many "regular" cable channels that one could only get with a digital box.

TWC 1000% dragged their heels doing what they KNEW they had to do. AND they decided to start this process in the outer boroughs before Manhattan... probably because they would have access to competitors long before we in Manhattan would have access. Hell, most of us can't do satellite or OTA.

While I sympathize with those in the south, you guys got RR access a whole 2 YEARS before I did; the fact that you'll probably get all the HD in 6 months puts you WTF ahead of us in the north!

This company has been collecting a lot of money from us over the years, and at the same time offering a crappy service. I live here in the north of Manhattan and I got all the new channels no biggie, However they should have switch to digital many years ago, and now they should have been upgrading their plans to 1GZ to 2 GZ that way they could put 2HD channels instead of 3 on one QAM. if they don't compress the channels we would watch them the way that it is suppose to be. Verizon will kill TWC if they don't step up in the dept of Quality.

since the hd channel update, wcbs is skipping. should i call twc or will it be fixed?

This is a persistent issue that I have seen for at least the past 3-4 years. Sometimes I won't see a skip for days and days, some times it's so frequent, it's impossible to watch the program it's happening on.

The only pattern I can see is it rarely happens on the premium movie channels.

I am trying to figure out total number of HD...

I count 88 from HBO to HDNet. There's one SDV (I think channel) I don't even see, it's 699. So 89. I then see the following:

350 HD_PPV
411 TeamHD
445 GameHD
465 TennisHD
467 CBS Coll SportsHD
472 Big 10HD

so that makes 95. HOWEVER, GAMEHD appears twice at 791 and 445. So I count 94.

What is even more confusing is I have HDXtra, mostly for the HDNet(s). As it started with 5 HD only channels, it's been whittled down to 2 now. I read that some SD sports channels were added to mollify those who thought they were getting a bunch of HD channels.

So exactly what channels does one get with HDXtra?

Just checked the program changes looks like 5 channels previously listed are now "postponed." So those would make for 99...

I am trying to figure out total number of HD...

I count 88 from HBO to HDNet. There's one SDV (I think channel) I don't even see, it's 699. So 89. I then see the following:

350 HD_PPV
411 TeamHD
445 GameHD
465 TennisHD
467 CBS Coll SportsHD
472 Big 10HD

so that makes 95. HOWEVER, GAMEHD appears twice at 791 and 445. So I count 94.

What is even more confusing is I have HDXtra, mostly for the HDNet(s). As it started with 5 HD only channels, it's been whittled down to 2 now. I read that some SD sports channels were added to mollify those who thought they were getting a bunch of HD channels.

So exactly what channels does one get with HDXtra?

Just checked the program changes looks like 5 channels previously listed are now "postponed." So those would make for 99...

You forgot ch 700 HDPPV

Thats how i was getting 95.

And there are more than 5 that have been postponed - since Lifetime and Fuse didn't show up like they were supposed to.

As for HDXtra - it seems it may now also include MGMHD and Hallmark Movies HD.

It also includes those sports channels in the 450s thru the 470s - some are in HD.

I still have no 467 CBS College Sports HD in Corona, Queens. i had at one time for like a month and which was a month ago..Not on the Guide maybe, monday it was come back with the new hd channels..

I still have no 467 CBS College Sports HD in Corona, Queens. i had at one time for like a month and which was a month ago..Not on the Guide maybe, monday it was come back with the new hd channels..


Anyone else experiencing audio stuttering on NBC-HD???

(704 Southern Manhattan)

I've been getting it on and off all week.

A_C

Anyone else experiencing audio stuttering on NBC-HD???

(704 Southern Manhattan)

I've been getting it on and off all week.

A_C

Seemed generally normal to me when I checked in on Leno for a few minutes last night (also southern Manhattan)....

Scott

You forgot ch 700 HDPPV

Thats how i was getting 95.

And there are more than 5 that have been postponed - since Lifetime and Fuse didn't show up like they were supposed to.

As for HDXtra - it seems it may now also include MGMHD and Hallmark Movies HD.

It also includes those sports channels in the 450s thru the 470s - some are in HD.

I think I said 699 instead of 700. However, if it is HD_PPV, than I SEE it on 350. So I counted it twice, which seems to make 93. I do not count a duplicated channel as 2... and we do have 2 duplicated channels (Game HD and HD_PPV) even though I can't see the one on 700.

They list the following as "postponed:"

Africa Channel HD
HSN HD
Spike HD
Nick HD
NBA TV HD

BUT I also recall (as you have stated) we were also supposed to get Fuse and Lifetime, so that makes 7 we are waiting for them to deliver.

I think I said 699 instead of 700. However, if it is HD_PPV, than I SEE it on 350. So I counted it twice, which seems to make 93. I do not count a duplicated channel as 2... and we do have 2 duplicated channels (Game HD and HD_PPV) even though I can't see the one on 700.

They list the following as "postponed:"

Africa Channel HD
HSN HD
Spike HD
Nick HD
NBA TV HD

BUT I also recall (as you have stated) we were also supposed to get Fuse and Lifetime, so that makes 7 we are waiting for them to deliver.

no no no.....

699 = HD Showcase OnDemand
700 = HD PPV OnDemand (350 = HD Special Events)

this is hdextra (http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?ChannelFilter=All&CLUID=510&Zip=11205&SortByPackage=false&Printable=True) in brooklyn queens.

this (http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?ChannelFilter=All&CLUID=536&Zip=10032&SortByPackage=false&Printable=True)is manhattans.

why would u pay for this?

this is hdextra (http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?ChannelFilter=All&CLUID=510&Zip=11205&SortByPackage=false&Printable=True) in brooklyn queens.

this (http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?ChannelFilter=All&CLUID=536&Zip=10032&SortByPackage=false&Printable=True)is manhattans.

why would u pay for this?

Links dont work.

But this is what it is supposed to include:
797 HDNetMovies
798 HDNet
-possibly 796 MGMHD (anyone that doesn't pay for HDXtra that is getting it?)
-they also possibly moved 784 Hallmark Movies HD

It also includes the entire Digital Sports Tier (which costs $3.95 a month on its own)
795 NHL Network HD
465 The Tennis Channel HD
467 CBS College Sports HD
472 Big Ten Network HD

also includes the following SD channels, most should have HD versions in the near future:
451 NBA TV (HD coming very soon)
452 Fox College Sports Atlantic
453 Fox College Sports Central
454 Fox College Sports Pacific
455 The Tennis Channel (HD available now)
456 FUEL
457 CBS College Sports Network (HD available now)
458 NHL Network (HD available now)
459 Gol TV

Most of us already have the HD DVR - so all this only costs an extra $5 a month... worth it for me.

I think I said 699 instead of 700. However, if it is HD_PPV, than I SEE it on 350. So I counted it twice, which seems to make 93. I do not count a duplicated channel as 2... and we do have 2 duplicated channels (Game HD and HD_PPV) even though I can't see the one on 700.

They list the following as "postponed:"

Africa Channel HD
HSN HD
Spike HD
Nick HD
NBA TV HD

BUT I also recall (as you have stated) we were also supposed to get Fuse and Lifetime, so that makes 7 we are waiting for them to deliver.

Lifetime? Do you really care about lifetime? :D

Lifetime? Do you really care about lifetime? :D

Or HSN-HD? Really???? Home Shopping network taking up 1/3 of a QAM frequency?! What a waste!!!

Honestly, I do care about receiving them. As much as I won't watch, I would like to have the choice there. Never know when it is needed.

BTW: I have the HD Xtra tier and still no Hallmark Movies HD or NHL Net HD. I checked on both my HDC box and my brother's 8300 HD.

I care about QVC and HSN in the sense that they were promised to me. I'm realistic about not watching them though.

Lifetime? Do you really care about lifetime? :D

I watch one program on Lifetime; 'Lisa Williams - Life Among the Dead'. I'd really miss it if it went away.

A_C

Honestly, I do care about receiving them. As much as I won't watch, I would like to have the choice there. Never know when it is needed.

BTW: I have the HD Xtra tier and still no Hallmark Movies HD or NHL Net HD. I checked on both my HDC box and my brother's 8300 HD.

Yeah, I see NHL HD in the channel guide, but when I tune to it I get a call to subscribe notice. I already subscribe, so I'm not sure what's going on.

Yeah, I see NHL HD in the channel guide, but when I tune to it I get a call to subscribe notice. I already subscribe, so I'm not sure what's going on.

Subscribe to HDXtra? Berk said it was part of HDXtra, which I have, and I get the same subscribe notice. Same with Hallmark HD 784, subscribe notice. Which can mean nothing as I've certainly seen such a message on channels I was supposed to be getting.

Didn't we gt Hallmark a while ago. Just checked my list of 12/17 additions (taken from TWC's site) and it isn't listed there.

Also on that list is (as in posted on TWC):

Game HD on 791 for MLB & NHL package customers
NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers
NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers
TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers

The real issue is that TWV doesn't want to actually commit to what is part of HDXtra. As of right now, they say HDXtra is Mojo, HDNet and HDNet Movies. They DO list a "Digital Sports Tier," without saying exactly what channels are included.

350 might have been "Special Events" but it now says it's "HD_PPV." As I recall, I think we've had that channel for a while... even though it may have had one or two "events" per year... so I'm inclined to count it like Berk does.

Oh, did y'all notice that the Weather Channel HD is called "TWCHD?"

Subscribe to HDXtra? Berk said it was part of HDXtra, which I have, and I get the same subscribe notice. Same with Hallmark HD 784, subscribe notice. Which can mean nothing as I've certainly seen such a message on channels I was supposed to be getting.

Didn't we gt Hallmark a while ago. Just checked my list of 12/17 additions (taken from TWC's site) and it isn't listed there.

Also on that list is (as in posted on TWC):

Game HD on 791 for MLB & NHL package customers
NBA TV HD on 461 to HD Xtra customers
NHL Network on 795 for Sports Tier and NHL package customers
TEAM HD on 411 to NBA League Pass customers

The real issue is that TWV doesn't want to actually commit to what is part of HDXtra. As of right now, they say HDXtra is Mojo, HDNet and HDNet Movies. They DO list a "Digital Sports Tier," without saying exactly what channels are included.

350 might have been "Special Events" but it now says it's "HD_PPV." As I recall, I think we've had that channel for a while... even though it may have had one or two "events" per year... so I'm inclined to count it like Berk does.

1) Something is up with Hallmark with everyone - thats why I was guessing its being moved to HDXtra

2) the Sports Tier is pretty simple - everything between 450 and 475 (along with NHL Network HD on 795... why its up there while the other sports channels in the 450s are HD in the 460s... I dont know)

3) Ch 350 "HD PPV"/Special Events actually has something almost every weekend. Boxing... every WWE PPV... (also some 'adult' content as well)

Golf HD is finally working on both my 8300HD & 8300HDC boxes and I was able to see a little bit of the hockey game last night on GameHD despite not knowing whether or not I should be getting this channel without the Center Ice package. As far as the missing Fuse HD channel in northern manhattan. Can anyone in queens or staten island confirm they get Fuse HD on channel 691 as listed on the TWCNYC website channel guide. I have to believe that if queens and staten island already have it then northern manhattan should be getting it real soon.

Golf HD is finally working on both my 8300HD & 8300HDC boxes and I was able to see a little bit of the hockey game last night on GameHD despite not knowing whether or not I should be getting this channel without the Center Ice package. As far as the missing Fuse HD channel in northern manhattan. Can anyone in queens or staten island confirm they get Fuse HD on channel 691 as listed on the TWCNYC website channel guide. I have to believe that if queens and staten island already have it then northern manhattan should be getting it real soon.

We're all getting GameHD right now even though we shouldn't be... (unless its a 'free preview' - more likely they haven't set it up right yet - since TeamHD is properly 'locked')

They just added over 60 channels.... sadly there are a few kinks they need to deal with...

I'm shocked... TWC HAS updated their channel listing! I chose HD only and copied out the text. For some reason, a bunch of others came along (that was not displayed on their website) so I cut them off. They listed a 503 Crossings channel that clearly is not HD. Also, they didn't mark 699 as needing a ODN box, so I corrected that (I do not see 699 or 700 listed at all). I also added Cinemax to all their channels, this so it can be alpha-sorted by channel correctly. Note that the list includes Game HD twice, I'm not so sure what that is all about... anyway, it makes for 95 including the duplicate and SEEMS accurate (poke holes guys!):

350 PPV for HD Only
411 TEAM HD*
445 Game HD*
465 Tennis Channel HD*
467 CBS College Sports HD
472 Big Ten Network HD
651 HBO HD
652 HBO 2 HD*
653 HBO Signature HD*
654 HBO Family HD*
655 HBO Comedy HD*
656 HBO Zone HD*
657 HBO Latino HD*
658 Cinemax HD
659 Cinemax More Max HD*
660 Cinemax ActionMAX HD*
661 Cinemax ThrillerMAX HD*
662 Cinemax W Max HD*
663 Cinemax @ Max HD*
664 Cinemax Five Star Max HD*
665 Cinemax Outer Max HD*
666 Showtime HD
667 Showtime SHO 2 HD*
668 Showtime Showcase HD*
669 Showtime SHO Extreme HD*
674 TMC HD
675 TMC Xtra HD*
676 Starz HD
677 Starz Edge HD*
678 Starz Kids & Family HD*
681 Starz Comedy HD*
682 Encore HD*
686 Crime and Investigation HD*
689 Style HD*
692 G4 HD*
699 HD Showcase On Demand+
700 HD MOD+
701 NY1 HD*
702 WCBS HDTV
703 TNT in HD
704 WNBC HDTV
705 WNYW HD
707 WABC HDTV
708 TBS HD
709 WWOR HD
710 CNN HD
711 WPIX-HD
713 Thirteen HD
715 CNBC HD*
716 USA HD*
717 Sci Fi HD*
718 Bravo HD*
720 Palladia HD*
722 Cartoon HD*
724 E! HD*
726 SportsNet New York HD
727 MSG HD
728 ESPN HD
729 ESPN2 HD
733 QVC HD*
734 Universal HD
737 FX HD*
738 ABC HD*
740 History HD*
743 Fox Business News HD*
744 Fox News HD*
746 A&E HD*
748 MSG Plus HD
749 Disney HD*
750 Food Network HD
752 TLC HD*
753 YES HD
760 Lifetime Movie Network HD*
763 BIO HD*
764 HGTV HD
765 National Geographic HD
766 Discovery HD*
767 HD Theater
768 Planet Green HD*
772 Weather Channel HD*
774 SPEED HD*
775 Science Channel HD*
779 Golf Channel HD*
784 Hallmark Movie Channel HD
786 Animal Planet HD
788 Travel Channel HD*
790 TV One HD*
791 Game HD*
792 ESPN2 HD*
793 ESPNU HD*
794 Versus HD
795 NHL Network HD*
796 MGM HD*
797 HDNet Movies
798 HDNet

* = northern Manhattan only
+ = requires ODN

NB: removed leading "The" and fixed Versus/Golf which is what is is NOT now

I have HD Xtra. Called TWC regarding the "Subscription" message on 784. Told to reboot the box, still no picture. After 20 min of dic-ing around, he just disconnected me. It seems this is their preferred way of dealing with problems that they can't resolve. (Yes, this had happened to me more than several times.)

[QUOTE
792 ESPN2 HD*
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792 Should be ESPN News HD

I have HD Xtra. Called TWC regarding the "Subscription" message on 784. Told to reboot the box, still no picture. After 20 min of dic-ing around, he just disconnected me. It seems this is their preferred way of dealing with problems that they can't resolve. (Yes, this had happened to me more than several times.)

we're all having the same problem - rebooting wont do the trick... they'll figure it out eventually...

Here's the list I posted 2 weeks ago.... updated again. (I used a * system to indicate what is available to everyone... instead of the opposite)

(I removed Sleuth completely, since the SD version is being pulled on 1/14 - doesn't look like the HD channel will even launch)

Bklyn, Qns, S.I. & N. Man. - 95 HD channels (+9 'later')
S. Man. – (*) 31 HD channels

*350 PPV-HD
411 TEAM HD
445/791 GAME-HD
****461 NBATVHD**** Postponed to a later date
465 Tennis Channel-HD
467 CBS CS-HD
472 Big Ten Network-HD
*651 HBO-HD
652 HBO2-HD
653 HBO Family-HD
654 HBO Comedy-HD
655 HBO Signature-HD
656 HBO Zone-HD
657 HBO Latino-HD
*658 CINEMAX-HD
659 MoreMax-HD
660 ActionMAX-HD
661 5StarMAX-HD
662 ThrillerMAX-HD
663 WMAX-HD
664 @MAX-HD
665 OuterMAX-HD
*666 Showtime-HD
667 Showtime 2-HD
668 ShowCase-HD
669 ShowExtreme-HD
674 TMC-HD
675 TMCxtra-HD
*676 Starz-HD
677 Starz Edge-HD
678 Starz Kids & Family-HD
681 Starz Comedy-HD
682 Encore-HD
****684 Chiller HD**** Postponed to a later date
686 Crime and Investigation HD
689 Style HD
****691 Fuse-HD**** Postponed to a later date
692 G4HD
699 Showcase On Demand-HD
700 Movies On Demand-HD
701 NY1-HD
*702 CBS2-HD
*703 TNT-HD
*704 NBC4-HD
*705 FOX5-HD
****706 Nick HD**** Postponed to a later date
*707 ABC7-HD
*708 TBS-HD
*709 MY9-HD
*710 CNN-HD
*711 CW11-HD
****712 Lifetime HD**** Postponed to a later date
*713 PBS13-HD
715 CNBC HD
717 USA HD
717 SciFi HD
718 Bravo HD
720 Palladia HD
722 Cartoon Network-HD
724 E! HD
*726 SportsNet New York-HD
*727 MSG-HD
*728 ESPN-HD
*729 ESPN2-HD
733 QVC HD
*734 Universal-HD
****736 Spike HD**** Postponed to a later date
737 FX-HD
738 ABC Family-HD
****739 HSN HD**** Postponed to a later date
740 History Channel HD
743 Fox Business News HD
744 Fox News HD
746 A&E-HD
*748 MSG+-HD
749 Disney-HD
*750 Food Network-HD
752 The Learning Channel-HD
*753 YES-HD
760 Toon Disney-HD
762 Lifetime Movies-HD
763 Biography-HD
*764 HGTV-HD
*765 National Geographic-HD
766 Discovery-HD
*767 HD Theater
768 Planet Green-HD
772 Weather Channel-HD
774 Speed-HD
775 Science Channel HD
779 Golf HD
783 MLB Network HD **** 1/1/09
*784 Hallmark Movie Channel-HD
*786 Animal Planet-HD
****787 Africa Channel HD**** Postponed to a later date
788 Travel Channel-HD
790 TV One HD
792 ESPNews-HD
793 ESPN U-HD
*794 Versus-HD
795 NHL-HD
796 MGM-HD
*797 HDNet Movies
*798 HDNet

OK Riverside_Guy, found your problem

760/762 - Toon Disney/Lifetime Movies-HD

Website messed up - thats why you are short 1.

I wasn't counting any channel twice.