At the cost of adding Time Warner Cable to my office.

-$150 for installation (mind you, there already is a cable wire on the floor)
-$85 a month for basic cable!!!

Is there ANY cheaper alternative for me? I am merely looking for CNBC on a small LCD TV in my office in mid-town Manhattan.

At the cost of adding Time Warner Cable to my office.

-$150 for installation (mind you, there already is a cable wire on the floor)
-$85 a month for basic cable!!!

Is there ANY cheaper alternative for me? I am merely looking for CNBC on a small LCD TV in my office in mid-town Manhattan.If that’s all you want (cnbc) then I’m pretty sure you can watch it through one of the financial links on your computer. Try googling the question and follow some of the links. I did and saw several but I didn’t look any further into it.

If that’s all you want (cnbc) then I’m pretty sure you can watch it through one of the financial links on your computer. Try googling the question and follow some of the links. I did and saw several but I didn’t look any further into it.

Unfortunately this will kill my internet connection.

At the cost of adding Time Warner Cable to my office.

-$150 for installation (mind you, there already is a cable wire on the floor)
-$85 a month for basic cable!!!

Is there ANY cheaper alternative for me? I am merely looking for CNBC on a small LCD TV in my office in mid-town Manhattan.

Attach a Slingbox to your home setup. Sling your cable box to your office. I use Sling on my WinMob 2G phone. You need about 80k throughput for smooth video. It will run at slower speeds with smooth audio and flashing stills from your channel.

You can get a basic Slingbox at J&R for under $150. No monthly service charges.

Attach a Slingbox to your home setup. Sling your cable box to your office. I use Sling on my WinMob 2G phone. You need about 80k throughput for smooth video. It will run at slower speeds with smooth audio and flashing stills from your channel.

You can get a basic Slingbox at J&R for under $150. No monthly service charges.

How will the slingbox use any less bandwith than a regular channel on the internet?
Its still audio/video being streamed over the cable wire which will kill my connection.

How will the slingbox use any less bandwith than a regular channel on the internet?
Its still audio/video being streamed over the cable wire which will kill my connection.

not necessarily. you can also cap the bandwidth on the slingplayer software but might not even need to.

How will the slingbox use any less bandwith than a regular channel on the internet?
Its still audio/video being streamed over the cable wire which will kill my connection.

Keep the Sling window as small as you can. Adjust the bitrate and buffer size.

How will the slingbox use any less bandwith than a regular channel on the internet?
Its still audio/video being streamed over the cable wire which will kill my connection.

Then why not take the $40-50/mo (or whatever) that you'd be willing to pay for cable and put that towards upgrading your internet connection? Win-win!

Keep the Sling window as small as you can. Adjust the bitrate and buffer size.

I appreciate the suggestion but I just dont think its right for my application.
I need to watch CNBC/Bloomberg from 8am to 8PM.
The slingbox desktop software will utilize too much of my computer's resources and my bandwith to run properly for 10-12 straight hours.
Slingbox is great for watching tv, but not great for watching tv while using multiple other programs.

What I might do is just use an old desktop just to run the slingbox software...

Would DISH be any cheaper than the above options?

anyone else lose CBSHD starting around 9:30 until ????

Same here, black screen on CBSHD channel 702.

just checked - no Wcbs here

Same in Brooklyn... CBSHD stopped at 9:30. So I guess I'll be missing this episode of CSI :mad:

Anybody know what happened?

oh, thats what happend.

so that means i also lost 11th hour?

I don't know what did it, but Golf HD was coming through in the clear as of last night. However, on the UWS (Southern Manhattan) last night and this morning, the entire lineup was pixelating. CBS-HD was watchable, but with the same glitches as all the other SD and HD channels.

CNBC HD is down for me (30th & 3rd Manhattan)

May i ask if my 8300HD from Time Warner is Passport, does that mean that at some point in time, they will "push" Sara to me?

some have said that everything is going to be Sara so the units with Passport are sort of being phased out.

if Sara doesn't get "pushed" to me/my 8300HD, is it worth it for me to go to Time Warner and exchange it? i do NOT wish to get the newer 8300HDC as a replacement, having heard many complaints about it.

thx in advance.

They will bring the fiber in as far as the building management (I guess that would be you) will let them. Obviously, it's something you will have to work out with them and will depend on a number of factors unique to your building, but generally speaking, they want to run fiber to each apartment and put the ONT inside each apartment.

Indeed this is the set-up I want. Most of the apartments in the building have direct access to the 2 stairwells; whatever they run can easily go up those starwells (TWC has distribution boxes on each floor with 6" of pipe running vertically). Oddly enough, I'm on the top floor and fiber WOULD have to be run in the public hallway, but while I'd like to keep "wiring" hidden, I'd much rather have fiber into my apartment.

It does seem to me after a couple of weeks of testing that my bitrates (in southern manhattan) for the HD Channels, which seemed to have been lowered about a year ago have been bumped up to approximately what they were before then.

Careful monitoring of hard drive space when I delete programs has shown that I'm getting approximate bandwidth of 6G/hr when I delete shows, which is approximately where it was over a year ago. For a while it dropped down to about 4.5G/hr, but now it seems to be back where it was...

This should translate to pretty good news in terms of picture quality.

Note that for me, the amount of "skippage"/audio dropouts has dropped dramatically as well. It had gotten very bad in Nov/Dec, but it has gone down to acceptable levels these days.

Skippage got very bad on 12/17 when we got all the new HD. It got better, but is still happening way more than it should. The only "acceptable" level to me is once per week. Not 2-3 times per hour of viewing.

May i ask if my 8300HD from Time Warner is Passport, does that mean that at some point in time, they will "push" Sara to me?

some have said that everything is going to be Sara so the units with Passport are sort of being phased out.

if Sara doesn't get "pushed" to me/my 8300HD, is it worth it for me to go to Time Warner and exchange it? i do NOT wish to get the newer 8300HDC as a replacement, having heard many complaints about it.

thx in advance.

The only thing that is "pushed" to those boxes is MDN. Right now, I think there are more positive things being said about MDN than ODN. Still, the word around here seems to be that the MDN push won't happen anytime soon.

anyone have any idea when we will be getting the Viacom channels (Spike, MTV, Vh1, Comedy Central) in HD?

The only thing that is "pushed" to those boxes is MDN. Right now, I think there are more positive things being said about MDN than ODN. Still, the word around here seems to be that the MDN push won't happen anytime soon.

thx Riverside_Guy, but i have to say, as a newbie at this, i don't know what MDN and ODN means at all!!

what do i need to do to get the "superior" operating software Sara? i've been told that Passport is being phased out. btw, i'm in Manhattan (Southern).

thanks in advance for your explanation.

thx Riverside_Guy, but i have to say, as a newbie at this, i don't know what MDN and ODN means at all!!

what do i need to do to get the "superior" operating software Sara? i've been told that Passport is being phased out. btw, i'm in Manhattan (Southern).

thanks in advance for your explanation.

If anything gets pushed it will be "Navigator" like the 8300HDC has, they don't use SARA here.

Is there a list of external hard drives that work with the 8300HDC, or is it as simple as finding any drive that uses eSATA? Does anyone know if the Seagate FreeAgent Extreme 1.5TB is compatible, or will any drive with a "sleep mode" automatically cause problems?

Can anyone explain to me what the RDC power at 39,(green) and FDC power at ***-18(red) means to my cable signal?, that is what I see in the STB diagnostics channel (996)

thx Riverside_Guy, but i have to say, as a newbie at this, i don't know what MDN and ODN means at all!!

what do i need to do to get the "superior" operating software Sara? i've been told that Passport is being phased out. btw, i'm in Manhattan (Southern).

thanks in advance for your explanation.

MDN is Navigator running on 8300HD boxes. ODN is Navigator running on 8300HDC or any box newer than a 8300HD.

From what I have read, I think if I had the choice of Passport or SARA, I'd take Passport. Of course, having had Passport for years, I'm quite familiar with it.

Ah, read a very good summary of MDN/ODN in another thread, so I'm quoting it here:

Mystro (aka Digital Navigator) is most certainly NOT SARA. It was created by a small company in Colorado who were bought by TWC once they decided to go with that IPG. They began distributing it in test markets about 2 and a half years ago. It was terribly buggy at first but in the last several months has begun to shape up.

There are two version of Digital Navigator ("Mystro"). The original version, created to run on legacy SA boxes, is called MDN, for "Mystro Digital Navigator". The follow on version, created to run on the Open Cable Applications Platform (OCAP) is call ODN, for "OCAP Digital Navigator". ODN currently runs on the CableCARD-equipped Cisco/SA boxes whose model numbers end in "C"--Explorer 8300HDC, Explorer 8250HDC, Explorer 4250HDC, etc. It should run on the coming wave of <tru2way> compliant retail products--televisions and set top boxes which will download and run the cable providers' program guides internally, with all the interactive features thereof (PPV, VOD and anything else they come up with) without the need for a leased box. Samsung has been showing <tru2way> televisions running ODN at product shows for the last couple of years and Panasonic <tru2way> complaint sets are on sale in a couple of test markets where one of the cable providers is prepared to support them.

Digital Navigator has been compatible with systems running Passport from the beginning, and locally they rolled out the new "C" boxes preloaded with it long before they pushed it to the legacy boxes. (FCC regulations prohibited all of the cable providers from buying any more STBs for lease which did not use CableCARDs for conditional access after 1 July 2007, so all new boxes purchased in SA systems have been "C" models since that time).

Is there a list of external hard drives that work with the 8300HDC, or is it as simple as finding any drive that uses eSATA? Does anyone know if the Seagate FreeAgent Extreme 1.5TB is compatible, or will any drive with a "sleep mode" automatically cause problems?
There is a comprehensive database of compatible eSATA drives (as well as a full discussion on the topic) in this thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=516559)

Is there a list of external hard drives that work with the 8300HDC, or is it as simple as finding any drive that uses eSATA? Does anyone know if the Seagate FreeAgent Extreme 1.5TB is compatible, or will any drive with a "sleep mode" automatically cause problems?

Save yourself some time and aggravation;
http://www.google.com/products?q=my+dvr+expander&hl=en

A_C

Went looking through the Samsung 3090 brochure... some interesting tidbits came to light.

First, it says it's for use with M-cards (multi-stream cable cards for use with two tuner devices). Have no idea if that means it does NOT work with the single stream cards TWC seems to only have. Could that be why it isn't being actively deployed right now?

It's RTOS is Linux. It implies that both memory and hard disc (internal) are upgradable. Obviously, it does support mpeg4 decoding. It has USB 2, 1394 (FireWire), and eSATA in addition to an Ethernet port connectors.

Even more interesting is it's support for DOCSIS 2! That means built in cable modem.

One of my conundrums was that my computer room and where my home theater resides are way far apart from each other. My combo cable modem/phone thing is in with the computer. The 3090 "should" let me connect to the net from my home theater without having to run 100" of RG-45 around my apartment to get to my home theater.

It sure sounds like one of these puppies (obviously running ODN) could make for a telling argument for TWC as opposed to FIOS (which seems to have a rep as having a particularly bad DVR). How the DVR works is clearly of concern in judging between the two.

Went looking through the Samsung 3090 brochure... some interesting tidbits came to light.

First, it says it's for use with M-cards (multi-stream cable cards for use with two tuner devices). Have no idea if that means it does NOT work with the single stream cards TWC seems to only have. Could that be why it isn't being actively deployed right now?

It's RTOS is Linux. It implies that both memory and hard disc (internal) are upgradable. Obviously, it does support mpeg4 decoding. It has USB 2, 1394 (FireWire), and eSATA in addition to an Ethernet port connectors.

Even more interesting is it's support for DOCSIS 2! That means built in cable modem.

One of my conundrums was that my computer room and where my home theater resides are way far apart from each other. My combo cable modem/phone thing is in with the computer. The 3090 "should" let me connect to the net from my home theater without having to run 100" of RG-45 around my apartment to get to my home theater.

It sure sounds like one of these puppies (obviously running ODN) could make for a telling argument for TWC as opposed to FIOS (which seems to have a rep as having a particularly bad DVR). How the DVR works is clearly of
concern in judging between the two.


Where did you hear the TWC has only single stream CableCARDs? They installed an M-card for me.

The DOCSIS specs are for communication with the TWC end for on demand programming and the like, not to serve as a modem. I also hear that the software on the Samsung box isn't very good.

MDN is Navigator running on 8300HD boxes. ODN is Navigator running on 8300HDC or any box newer than a 8300HD.

From what I have read, I think if I had the choice of Passport or SARA, I'd take Passport. Of course, having had Passport for years, I'm quite familiar with it.

Ah, read a very good summary of MDN/ODN in another thread, so I'm quoting it here:

i just rebooted my 8300HD for the express purpose of finding out the software - how would i do that? the only way i know how is to push the on/off button in the front and hold it until the display says: BOOT, and then it goes through a 3-minute or so cycle of rebooting. i did not get to see any "version" numbers though for the software.

i saw that it said: Passport, ECHO, Aptiva

what does that mean? the date at the bottom said: 2002-2006.

everyone is saying that this is very old software that is being phased out. i'm in Manhattan (southern). what can one do to get newer software? after asking around, i've decided that the 8300HDC is NOT what i'd want - there are seemingly as many downsides are there are upsides, so i don't think i need or want the collateral frustrations that would likely come with the new HDC.

any suggestions/advice on what i can do to have newer software would be most appreciated.

Thx in advance!

i just rebooted my 8300HD for the express purpose of finding out the software - how would i do that? the only way i know how is to push the on/off button in the front and hold it until the display says: BOOT, and then it goes through a 3-minute or so cycle of rebooting. i did not get to see any "version" numbers though for the software.

i saw that it said: Passport, ECHO, Aptiva

what does that mean? the date at the bottom said: 2002-2006.

everyone is saying that this is very old software that is being phased out. i'm in Manhattan (southern). what can one do to get newer software? after asking around, i've decided that the 8300HDC is NOT what i'd want - there are seemingly as many downsides are there are upsides, so i don't think i need or want the collateral frustrations that would likely come with the new HDC.

any suggestions/advice on what i can do to have newer software would be most appreciated.

Thx in advance!

The downside to the HDC according to many is that is uses the Navigator software. There is no way for you to get it on your own on the 8300HD, they will most likely push it one day but no one knows when. Personally I am fine with the HDC and Navigator but I don't do the things people are complaining about like trying to do a manual time recording.

The downside to the HDC according to many is that is uses the Navigator software. There is no way for you to get it on your own on the 8300HD, they will most likely push it one day but no one knows when. Personally I am fine with the HDC and Navigator but I don't do the things people are complaining about like trying to do a manual time recording.

thx lee7n.

nevertheless, since i'm not going to go to 23rd Street to exchange my 8300HD for an 8300HDC, when will i get an "update" of my software? my software (passport echo aptiva) has probably been with my 8300HD from years ago.

aren't there newer, better versions?

also, i see others with "version numbers", for example, in their signature. i rebooted my 8300HD in order to be certain of what type of software i have but i do not know how to find the software VERSION number.

any advice/assistance would be most appreciated. thx!

thx lee7n.

nevertheless, since i'm not going to go to 23rd Street to exchange my 8300HD for an 8300HDC, when will i get an "update" of my software? my software (passport echo aptiva) has probably been with my 8300HD from years ago.

aren't there newer, better versions?

also, i see others with "version numbers", for example, in their signature. i rebooted my 8300HD in order to be certain of what type of software i have but i do not know how to find the software VERSION number.

any advice/assistance would be most appreciated. thx!

Don't worry, they do periodic firmware updates on the boxes systemwide so you are most likely are at the latest version of passport. I forget how to get into the diagnostics of that box but it is posted here on the forum. If an update happens the box usually reboots but they usually do it late at night so you may not realize. It is up to them as to when updates happen.

Don't worry, they do periodic firmware updates on the boxes systemwide so you are most likely are at the latest version of passport. I forget how to get into the diagnostics of that box but it is posted here on the forum. If an update happens the box usually reboots but they usually do it late at night so you may not realize. It is up to them as to when updates happen.

Yep, your box is definitely at the same Passport version as the rest of ours in NYC are. TWC upgrades the software on all of the boxes at the same time (or close to it) and we haven't had an update in over a year. So the latest software TWC is running on our system in NYC is running on all of our 8300HD boxes. There's no way to avoid it -- even if your box is offline when the push the upgrade it will update itself the next time it is online.

Scott

Did any of the 8300HD boxs ever get Navigator or Mystro??Is it true that all SA 8300 boxs will upgrade to Mystro or Navigator ???

Yep, your box is definitely at the same Passport version as the rest of ours in NYC are. TWC upgrades the software on all of the boxes at the same time (or close to it) and we haven't had an update in over a year. So the latest software TWC is running on our system in NYC is running on all of our 8300HD boxes. There's no way to avoid it -- even if your box is offline when the push the upgrade it will update itself the next time it is online.

Scott

Mmm...so that means that we have no control over what software we have. Ok, fine. Since i've determined that the 8300HDC is NOT a good move at this point (until they have fully resolved the various myriad of issues they seem to continue to have with the 8300HDC), how would we get "the best" of what we can?

maybe the best course of action is to just lay low, and not thing/worry about these things. whatever software we have is what we have, and not think about it until another update happens to come by - whenever that may be?

ugh. such poor customer satisfaction. no wonder people are leaving them if they can. should they be doing their best to provide modern service to provide greater customer satisfaction? that would reduce the number of people fleeing them. right?

The Tennis Channel's sound has been almost a second behind the picture for the last three days. Can someone check and see if they are having the same issue - ch. 465? How could they not fix this?:mad:

Where did you hear the TWC has only single stream CableCARDs? They installed an M-card for me.

The DOCSIS specs are for communication with the TWC end for on demand programming and the like, not to serve as a modem. I also hear that the software on the Samsung box isn't very good.

I read posts about folks getting FIOS and TWC saying they HAD to rent 2 s-cards because the m-cards aren't available.

Uh, TWC would supply the "software" for Samsung or any other box. Apparently, as shipped by Samsung, it has Linux... and if TWC's software actually used it, they be in FAR better shape.

it states DOCSIS 2, which is exactly what IS used for full IP connectivity.

The Tennis Channel's sound has been almost a second behind the picture for the last three days. Can someone check and see if they are having the same issue - ch. 465? How could they not fix this?:mad:

Anyone?

Anyone?

Yup, Tennis HD had bad audio lag for me this weekend, too. Had to switch back to standard Tennis Channel, which was ok.

Did any of the 8300HD boxs ever get Navigator or Mystro??Is it true that all SA 8300 boxs will upgrade to Mystro or Navigator ???

In NYC, all of the 8300HD boxes are still running Passport. Nobody has had their 8300HDs "flashed" to Navigator.

Apparently in other areas it has been done with a somewhat high level of "success". I think that this was mostly in places where the decision was made to use switched digital video, since the last official version of Passport that TWC is supporting does not support SDV.

Since we do not have SDV here in NYC, TWC apparently felt no need to push the "upgrade"....which is, for the most part, fine with me.

Reports after 8300HDs had Navigator pushed on them were that programs stored on the drive (including external drives) were generally preserved. Not sure about future (or recurring) recordings, though.

Scott

maybe the best course of action is to just lay low, and not thing/worry about these things. whatever software we have is what we have, and not think about it until another update happens to come by - whenever that may be?
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Unless you're really needing the HD-on demand, or your box bites the dust, just hold onto what you've got, which I must admit is quite satisfying and stable. (I'm speaking from years of experience with Passport, which by some miracle, seems to have settled into a very stable version that TWC has left us with and then NOT UPGRADED [which is a good thing in this case -- every previous "upgrade" always introduced new bugs].)

I read posts about folks getting FIOS and TWC saying they HAD to rent 2 s-cards because the m-cards aren't available.


This practice is illegal and anyone who is told this should report it either to DOITT or the FCC. Cable companies MUST provide M-cards if asked.

Yup, Tennis HD had bad audio lag for me this weekend, too. Had to switch back to standard Tennis Channel, which was ok.

Thanks - at least I know its not just my system. I sent them an email about it - have they fixed it yet (I'm not home)?

Anybody getting GameHD as part of the free preview of NHL Center Ice this week? I am getting all the SD channels, but the HD one asks me to call TW and subscribe. Curious as to if that is the way is it supposed to be or not.

My 8300HD disk died early January - exchanged at 23rd Street and received an 8300HDC - no 8300HDs available apparently at the time.

The recording mechanism and conflict resolution is driving me mad! For instance this evening I have the following programs to record via series recording (new episodes only):

American Idol 705 8pm-10pm
Mentalist 702 9pm-10.01pm
Leverage 703 10pm-11pm
L&O SVU 704 10pm-11pm

All four are new episodes.

L&O SVU is silently not recording (i.e. without any conflict warning) due to Mentalist running until 10.01pm.

If I hadn't checked the guide I would have assumed the L&O was a repeat. I'm quite sure that the same thing happened on Sunday evening as Big Love did not record at 9pm (but it did at 11pm).

Anyone got any advice?

Nothing on MGM HD appears to have close captions - does anyone know if that's a glitch from TWC or a "feature" of the channel?

My 8300HD disk died early January - exchanged at 23rd Street and received an 8300HDC - no 8300HDs available apparently at the time.

The recording mechanism and conflict resolution is driving me mad! For instance this evening I have the following programs to record via series recording (new episodes only):

American Idol 705 8pm-10pm
Mentalist 702 9pm-10.01pm
Leverage 703 10pm-11pm
L&O SVU 704 10pm-11pm

All four are new episodes.

L&O SVU is silently not recording (i.e. without any conflict warning) due to Mentalist running until 10.01pm.

If I hadn't checked the guide I would have assumed the L&O was a repeat. I'm quite sure that the same thing happened on Sunday evening as Big Love did not record at 9pm (but it did at 11pm).

Anyone got any advice?

Yet another advantage of the 8300HD over the 8300HDC... on the HD box, the Law and Order recording would've kicked in at 10:01.

My 8300HD disk died early January - exchanged at 23rd Street and received an 8300HDC - no 8300HDs available apparently at the time.

The recording mechanism and conflict resolution is driving me mad! For instance this evening I have the following programs to record via series recording (new episodes only):

American Idol 705 8pm-10pm
Mentalist 702 9pm-10.01pm
Leverage 703 10pm-11pm
L&O SVU 704 10pm-11pm

All four are new episodes.

L&O SVU is silently not recording (i.e. without any conflict warning) due to Mentalist running until 10.01pm.

If I hadn't checked the guide I would have assumed the L&O was a repeat. I'm quite sure that the same thing happened on Sunday evening as Big Love did not record at 9pm (but it did at 11pm).

Anyone got any advice?
you can manually set stuff to end a minute earlier or start a minute later if you record with options

Yet another advantage of the 8300HD over the 8300HDC... on the HD box, the Law and Order recording would've kicked in at 10:01.

I never knew that! I always assumed the 1-3 minute conflicts that the networks cause with the funky end times would have prevented the whole show from recording.

Yet another advantage of the 8300HD over the 8300HDC... on the HD box, the Law and Order recording would've kicked in at 10:01.

I'm not sure I've ever seen it work that way on my 8300HD, but I've never specifically tested it either. When there is one of those 1 or 2 minute overlaps, I always notice the recording as being listed as canceled in the upcoming recordings list and address it there.

I'm not sure I've ever seen it work that way on my 8300HD, but I've never specifically tested it either. When there is one of those 1 or 2 minute overlaps, I always notice the recording as being listed as canceled in the upcoming recordings list and address it there.

Yes, they be listed as 'not recording' beforehand - but they will kick in when a tuner is available.

(I usually notice this happen when the last 30/60 minutes of a knicks/rangers game records after 9pm when i would have 2 things recording from 8 to 9)

Hi everyone. Forgive me if this has been addressed before, but with over 600 pages, I couldn't make it through all, and I just discovered this thread.

Ever since I've had TWC, I've noticed intermittent freeze-ups with the cable feed. That is, it seems to stop, pixelate, lose audio, only to cut back to live, moving picture a second or two later. Kind of Max Headroom-y when it happens. It's like the digital feed just isn't sound, or can't keep up. Again, it does come back almost immediately afterwards, but the constant break up is a bit of an annoyance. I wouldn't really begrudge it except I've recently spent time win different cities with friends and family and watched cable via their provider and never once noticed this phenomenon. I was such a pleasant treat to be able to watch tv and not have it break up, and stutter. What gives? Is this a TWC thing? Is it a cable box thing? Why is it that this doesn't happen in the other locales I've visited, yet is a constant when watching cable at home? Is it a population thing? That is, just shear numbers of people plugged into TWC? I'm just curious b/c now that I've seen the greener grass, it sort of bugs me to have this happen all the time. Thanks for any info.

... it seems to stop, pixelate, lose audio, only to cut back to live, moving picture a second or two later.

... I'm just curious b/c now that I've seen the greener grass, it sort of bugs me to have this happen all the time. Thanks for any info.
What type of box do you have? How old? If it’s a DVR, is it near full? Do you have any splitters in your system? Have you had a tech visit to check your signal strength?

I'm not at home at the time, but it is DVR and I believe (pretty sure) it's the Scientific 8300HD that everyone seems to have. It's not near full...but even if it is, this has been happening since I first picked it up...and before that with my old one if I'm not mistaken...I don't want to say for sure, but it seems that way. I do have a splitter, but that was installed by the technician b/c I also have cable internet. At the start of the system, the splitter is there to send one to my television, and one signal to my cable modem. Is that bad? I assumed if the tech was doing it, it should be fine? I only have one TV, so it's not being split to run to multiple televisions if that's the question. Never had someone come out to test signal strength...didn't know that was an option. Thanks for the reply!

Yet another advantage of the 8300HD over the 8300HDC... on the HD box, the Law and Order recording would've kicked in at 10:01.


i think the hdc would of done the same.

...it's not being split to run to multiple televisions if that's the question. Never had someone come out to test signal strength...didn't know that was an option.
Most likely, there is an incoming signal problem. I would definitely call and set up a tech visit and have them check everything out, especially if it occurred with previous boxes.

Have you ever unplugged the box for a minute or so and re-powered it? This “reboot” is like “chicken soup” for the box. ;)

Also…
Obviously, double-check all of your connections to be sure all is secure.

i think the hdc would of done the same.

not from what I've heard from multiple people.

Ha! Yeah, I've unplugged many, many times. That's the "answer" I got from techs on the phone every time I've called about this. It hasn't worked. :rolleyes: Not for any long period of time. I do recall now though, that way back when I first had cable installed, i was having problems and a tech came out to check signal strength. He ended up changing out somethings towards the back of the apartment where the signal enters, saying I was not getting a good signal. However, that was before the new box, pre-digital I believe. Definitely pre-HD as I swapped my box out last January when I bought my first HD tv (had and old JVC CRT before that). I guess I'll just need to give them a call and have one come out. I have checked all of my connections, just to be on the safe side. Seem as tight as they can be. The picture is great for 95% of the time...it's just when it pixelates and drops out for those few seconds that it's a bummer. Thanks again.

not from what I've heard from multiple people.Yeah, the HDC has a mind of its own when it comes to start and end times. :rolleyes: I have a series recording on a show and sometimes I get the end credits and sometimes it cuts out a second before the show is over. Very annoying. This doesn’t happen with the Passport 8300HD.

I'm not sure I've ever seen it work that way on my 8300HD, but I've never specifically tested it either. When there is one of those 1 or 2 minute overlaps, I always notice the recording as being listed as canceled in the upcoming recordings list and address it there.

And that is the nub of the problem with the HDC - it does not warn you that there is a recording conflict.

And that is the nub of the problem with the HDC - it does not warn you that there is a recording conflict.

I have received warnings from mine about conflicts

Yeah, the HDC has a mind of its own when it comes to start and end times. :rolleyes: I have a series recording on a show and sometimes I get the end credits and sometimes it cuts out a second before the show is over. Very annoying. This doesn’t happen with the Passport 8300HD.

Not to say that the HDC might have particularly bad issues this way, but since I have endless problems with this on my HD, I think it's the networks faults for sloppy start and end times on their programming. Started a few years ago, I think to mess with people's channel switching/surfing. It should be federal law, breaches punishable by public hangings, that programs start and end EXACTLY on the half-hour.

Well, I must say that one of the cooler features of the 8300HD/Passport is that it actually starts to record something 1 minute earlier than it is scheduled (as long as a tuner is open) which makes it less likely to miss something. Not sure if the HDC/Navigator does this or not.

If the tuner is not open, it will start the recording as soon as a tuner is open.

Well, I must say that one of the cooler features of the 8300HD/Passport is that it actually starts to record something 1 minute earlier than it is scheduled (as long as a tuner is open) which makes it less likely to miss something. Not sure if the HDC/Navigator does this or not.

If the tuner is not open, it will start the recording as soon as a tuner is open.

you can tell it to start or end earlier or later, it is really not that bad.

Good info for noob's about different aspect ratio's and your HDTV

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/02/19/hd-101-why-there-are-black-bars-on-hdtvs/#continued

you can tell it to start or end earlier or later, it is really not that bad.That’s the point—with the 8300HD you don’t have to tell it anything. If the networks start earlier or end later, the show is properly recorded. With the HDC, I have found that it occasionally misses the proper start and/or end times. It might be by seconds but it still misses. That’s been my experience working with both boxes.

That’s the point—with the 8300HD you don’t have to tell it anything. If the networks start earlier or end later, the show is properly recorded. With the HDC, I have found that it occasionally misses the proper start and/or end times. It might be by seconds but it still misses. That’s been my experience working with both boxes.

It really does not bother me to tell you the truth. It takes like an extra 10 sec to tell it to record 1 minute earlier or later. Almost every show is repeated these days usually on the same night a few hrs later except for network TV which is utter crap anyway in my humble opinion. If it misses something you can record it later, watch it on youtube, hulu, the network website, etc... etc... It has never completely missed a recording for me ever. I like the new features it has like sidebar color selection, caller ID, HD on demand, start over, so to each his own. I think the benefits outweigh the small problems it has. It is not the end of the world. Nothing is perfect.

Good info for noob's about different aspect ratio's and your HDTV

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/02/19/hd-101-why-there-are-black-bars-on-hdtvs/#continued

Thanks, I'm going to print that out and give it to my MIL. :D She recently bought a 16:9 lcd and got a HD stb. Her complaint: "I don't see the difference between SD and HD". After examining her setup, I noticed she was viewing hd channels via the rf (chan. 3) output of her cable box and then stretching/zooming on her display to fill up the screen. Why TWC hooked her up that way, I'll never understand. After switching her over to the component inputs on her set, all she did was (literally) scream "When I watch tv, it fills the screen". I tried to explain aspect ratios, etc... to her, but all I got back was the above rant. Since she was unable to comprehend the intricate procedure of stretch/zoom via the stb (yet she could via her television's remote), I said fine and hooked the rf input back up and let her do as she pleased.

It really does not bother me to tell you the truth...
I like the new features...You like it, this has been established many times over :p and everyone knows I don’t. I’m not trying to change anyone’s opinion. I’m pointing out the idiosyncrasies of the HDC-- as been discussed here.

You like it, this has been established many times over :p and everyone knows I don’t. I’m not trying to change anyone’s opinion. I’m pointing out the idiosyncrasies of the HDC-- as been discussed here.

It's good to discuss, that way people can make informed choices

I have received warnings from mine about conflicts

My experience is this:

If there are three shows to be recorded and the times overlap completely then there is a conflict warning e.g. three shows from 10pm to 11pm.

In the case of my original post (all series recordings):

American Idol 705 8pm-10pm
Mentalist 702 9pm-10.01pm
Leverage 703 10pm-11pm
L&O SVU 704 10pm-11pm

I did not receive a conflict message that L&O would not be recorded. It was silently discarded.

I manually edited Mentalist to end at 10pm (actually had to set it to end one minute earlier) and then had to manually set L&O to record. It worked, but who wants to navigate the guide every evening to check that all your shows are to be recorded properly? A conflict message would have been preferable.

That’s the point—with the 8300HD you don’t have to tell it anything. If the networks start earlier or end later, the show is properly recorded. With the HDC, I have found that it occasionally misses the proper start and/or end times. It might be by seconds but it still misses. That’s been my experience working with both boxes.

Not in the past several years... many is the time the network show ends before it really ends.

Man shoots TV because of DTV conversion

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/20/dtv-switch-doesnt-kill-tvs-drunk-septuagenarians-with-guns-kil/

My external SATA drive seems to have gotten corrupted, and will play nothing back from my SA 8300 HD. The play list seems to have gone back in time to a few weeks ago, showing items that I had erased. The diagnostic screen says that it is about empty, so it seems that it has erased everything. I reformatted.

Anyone else have this issue? Hope the HD isn't failing...now it seems to record and play back new shows fine.

My external SATA drive seems to have gotten corrupted, and will play nothing back from my SA 8300 HD. The play list seems to have gone back in time to a few weeks ago, showing items that I had erased. The diagnostic screen says that it is about empty, so it seems that it has erased everything. I reformatted.

Anyone else have this issue? Hope the HD isn't failing...now it seems to record and play back new shows fine.

I've not seen this problem......

I've not seen this problem......

It was pretty weird. Out of the blue, the playlist went back in time a few weeks, and would play nothing back. The diagnostic screen said the drive was empty. It basically just erased everything on the drive. Eventually it gave a "the drive may be corrupted" message, so I reformatted and it seems to work fine now.

Luckily, I don't care that much as what was saved were just TV shows and movies, and it forced me to clear out a lot of junk I would probably have never watched anyway. I have a lot more space now...:D

Anyone else having issues on Staten Island? I just came home from vacation, and half my HD channels have no picture. I tried rebooting, but it made no difference.

I've seen a few people here and in the Cablevision thread complain about frequent, intermittent picture glitching/freeze-ups that persist despite all efforts to fix them.

If you're getting these freeze-ups, try making sure there are no GSM cellphones in the area. Last night, I was watching ESPN HD and my cellphone was in the room, about 10 feet away from the cable box and 4 or 5 feet away from the computer. I was getting picture freeze-ups. But I noticed the freeze-ups were synchronized with the pings I was getting on my cellphone which were audible on my computer's speakers. Every GSM cellphone owner with a nearby computer or other loudspeaker device knows what these pings sound like, a buzzing sound with a unique waltz-like rhythm.

So if you're suffering from these freeze-ups, try moving your cellphone around and see if that clears it up.

I've seen a few people here and in the TWC thread complain about frequent, intermittent picture glitching/freeze-ups that persist despite all efforts to fix them.

If you're getting these freeze-ups, try making sure there are no GSM cellphones in the area. Last night, I was watching ESPN HD and my cellphone was in the room, about 10 feet away from the cable box and 4 or 5 feet away from the computer. I was getting picture freeze-ups. But I noticed the freeze-ups were synchronized with the pings I was getting on my cellphone which were audible on my computer's speakers. Every GSM cellphone owner with a nearby computer or other loudspeaker device knows what these pings sound like, a buzzing sound with a unique waltz-like rhythm.

So if you're suffering from these freeze-ups, try moving your cellphone around and see if that clears it up.


Reminds me of the woman who was absolutely certain she caused the blackout of 1965.

It seems the lights went out at the very instant she plugged-in her electric frying pan.

She was frantic and called the radio station apologizing... I was only 11, but it was the funniest thing I’d ever heard.

A_C

PS: Have you tried wrapping the cable box in tinfoil?

Reminds me of the woman who was absolutely certain she caused the blackout of 1965.

It seems the lights went out at the very instant she plugged-in her electric frying pan.

She was frantic and called the radio station apologizing... I was only 11, but it was the funniest thing I’d ever heard.

A_C

PS: Have you tried wrapping the cable box in tinfoil?
LOL, no. I'm not that anal about TV. :D

It was just a suggestion. Take it or leave it.

I was also skeptical of UnnDunn's suggestion but interestingly, looks like he's onto something. Check out this post on dslreports where many people report the same experience. The original poster says Comcast has confirmed that GSM signals can cause interference with cable boxes:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20569019-HD-signal-interference-w-ATT-wireless

Whether or not GSM signals are responsible for everyone's problems, at least it's another possible cause to consider.

Oh, and to the poster who reported that he wasn't getting Golf HD because it was incorrectly added to the Sports Package: the problem has been fixed. I removed Sports Package last night and still have Golf HD.

My external SATA drive seems to have gotten corrupted, and will play nothing back from my SA 8300 HD. The play list seems to have gone back in time to a few weeks ago, showing items that I had erased. The diagnostic screen says that it is about empty, so it seems that it has erased everything. I reformatted.

Anyone else have this issue? Hope the HD isn't failing...now it seems to record and play back new shows fine.


i had this issue with my regular 8300 (non hd) and the wd book.

the box rebooted or something (maybe power?), and like you stuff got deleted and stuff came back.

I think it was the act of an unscheduled boot. I have since move to an hdc and using the same wd book.

no issues for months.

I was also skeptical of UnnDunn's suggestion but interestingly, looks like he's onto something. Check out this post on dslreports where many people report the same experience. The original poster says Comcast has confirmed that GSM signals can cause interference with cable boxes:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20569019-HD-signal-interference-w-ATT-wireless

Whether or not GSM signals are responsible for everyone's problems, at least it's another possible cause to consider.

Oh, and to the poster who reported that he wasn't getting Golf HD because it was incorrectly added to the Sports Package: the problem has been fixed. I removed Sports Package last night and still have Golf HD.
I am absolutely certain the GSM pings were the cause of my picture breakup last night, and it comes as no surprise. A GSM phone sending and receiving plays havoc with electronic devices in the immediate vicinity, unless such devices are adequately shielded.

I've seen GSM phones mess with the picture on CRT computer monitors (producing a "degauss-like" effect on the screen) and of course there's the tell-tale buzzing noise. And GSM phones usually get pinged every minute or two, even in standby.

Good news Rangers fans! (other than Tom Renney being fired)

The next 3 games (2 games this week) that were scheduled for MSG2 have been moved and will be seen in HD!

Wednesday's game has been moved to MSG+(HD) (swapped with Islanders)

And Saturday's game will be seen on WPIX! (same with the 3/21 game)

(2 Knicks games (3/17 and 3/13) have also been moved to WPIX, but they were already supposed to be in HD on MSG....)

Good news Rangers fans!

And Saturday's game will be seen on WPIX! (same with the 3/21 game)

(2 Knicks games (3/17 and 3/13) have also been moved to WPIX, but they were already supposed to be in HD on MSG....)

I dont know why they didnt do this before. More HD games is good.

I dont know why they didnt do this before. More HD games is good.

They did this last year with WWOR-9. (2 games each team).

But they weren't games that would've been on MSG2....

Good news Rangers fans! (other than Tom Renney being fired)


Wow! I even get my RANGERS news from AVS forum!!!

Wow! I even get my RANGERS news from AVS forum!!!

The news got even better now that it was announced that John Tortorella is the head coach of the team.

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Does this mean chages are systemwide now?

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In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers.



In addition to the previously scheduled changes slated to occur on March 25, 2009, we will no longer carry Specials On Demand on ch. 1009. In Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens, we will launch Starz On Demand on ch. 240, WPXN HD on ch. 731, and Prime Time On Demand on ch. 1009. In Manhattan and Mt Vernon, we will no longer carry CV Networks on ch. 804. In Mount Vernon, we will launch IFC on ch. 81, Starz On Demand on ch. 240, WPXN HD on ch. 714, IFC HD 781 and Prime Time On Demand on ch. 1009.




Does this mean chages are systemwide now?

well... across NYC... yes... (since we all have the same HD now...)

(and I told y'all to look out for a WPXN HD announcement coming soon)

Do they still not have a final agreement with Viacom?

Do they still not have a final agreement with Viacom?

Not only do they not have a final agreement with Viacom but they continue to list all the Viacom channels as stations for which their contracts are soon expiring.

Exchanged a broken box at 23rd st. The rep told me employees are testing the new Samsung dvr's. She thinks they should be available by summer.

(and I told y'all to look out for a WPXN HD announcement coming soon)

Would that be PAX aka ION?

Would that be PAX aka ION?

yes, it is Ion (pax no longer exists... but the 'former' local affiliate remains WPXN for whatever reason)

Exchanged a broken box at 23rd st. The rep told me employees are testing the new Samsung dvr's. She thinks they should be available by summer.

you are not gonna like navigator on the samsung if you do not like it on the HDC, so you passport lovers don't get too excited, it's is gonna be exactly the same just more memory

you are not gonna like navigator on the samsung if you do not like it on the HDC, so you passport lovers don't get too excited, it's is gonna be exactly the same just more memory

Not necessarily… Let’s see what they come up with. Additional memory, better firmware and system software may indeed host Navigator in way which makes it run better.

A_C

Did anyone have problems w/ NBC last night. ER was almost unwatchable with audio dropouts.

Did anyone have problems w/ NBC last night. ER was almost unwatchable with audio dropouts.

no problems here

Not necessarily… Let’s see what they come up with. Additional memory, better firmware and system software may indeed host Navigator in way which makes it run better.

A_C

I don't know agent_c, i think it will be the same, just maybe faster with the additional ram. The quirky recording system I would imagine would remain unchanged since it is still gonna be the same program just running on a different box. I guess we will see, but I am not gonna run out an exchange my hdc unless there is really a compelling reason to do so. It is working pretty good for me.

no problems here

ER is still on? :confused: lol

I don't know agent_c, i think it will be the same, just maybe faster with the additional ram. The quirky recording system I would imagine would remain unchanged since it is still gonna be the same program just running on a different box. I guess we will see, but I am not gonna run out an exchange my hdc unless there is really a compelling reason to do so. It is working pretty good for me.


Most of the complaints that get posted have to do with performance, particularly long waits for channel changes. At an absolute minimum, I'd expect that to be better on these boxes. What's the additional memory for anyway?

A_C

ER is still on? :confused: lol

Yea, I think there's 4 more episodes left. Some of the old characters are coming back for the finale. Gonna miss that show...

Most of the complaints that get posted have to do with performance, particularly long waits for channel changes. At an absolute minimum, I'd expect that to be better on these boxes. What's the additional memory for anyway?

A_C

well the memory should improve guide speed not that it is that bad anyway. If you set all output to 1080i it switches channels much better.

well the memory should improve guide speed not that it is that bad anyway. If you set all output to 1080i it switches channels much better.

The actual TV also makes a big difference. I set my sister up exactly the same as I was (we live one block apart) and her Sony takes a HUGE long time, whereas my Samsung is MUCH faster.

Hi

Sorry if this is the wrong forum...

I have a TWC HD DVR that I moved from Manhattan to Queens, NY. It is 92% full, and worked perfectly from Feb 6 through Feb 23 or so (forgot the exact day).

Suddenly, one morning I got "this box is not authorized for use" message. The repair guy just came and he said my options were to get a new box and lose all my saved shows (Battlestar Galactica, Friday Night Lights, several other shows I've been saving up to watch all at once!!!)... or... see if you guys can help! 8-)

Anyone know what needs to be done to get this thing to work again? Can I take it to Manhattan, connect it and "-re-activate" it at least for awhile?

Thanks!!!

Anyone having RR problem in S. Manhattan? I lost internet and phone for about an hour last night and a few channels. It is working now but internet speed is still testing slow about 3 mB as opposed to the usual 10-14 mB

Anyone having RR problem in S. Manhattan? I lost internet and phone for about an hour last night and a few channels. It is working now but internet speed is still testing slow about 3 mB as opposed to the usual 10-14 mB

Just ran a speed test and I'm only seeing 2340 down. I'm usually around 10000.

NatGeo HD and SD also just a blank screen

Suddenly have absolutely no internet. Had been slow all day but now it's gone completely. Located in midtown on the west side. God I love time warner!

I just became an unfortunate owner of a 8300HDC. That thing is just so damn slow and clunky.

I just became an unfortunate owner of a 8300HDC. That thing is just so damn slow and clunky.

My condolences.

Just ran a speed test and I'm only seeing 2340 down. I'm usually around 10000.

Definitely slower on Sunday, checked and got around 7000 down at most.

Hi

Sorry if this is the wrong forum...

I have a TWC HD DVR that I moved from Manhattan to Queens, NY. It is 92% full, and worked perfectly from Feb 6 through Feb 23 or so (forgot the exact day).

Suddenly, one morning I got "this box is not authorized for use" message. The repair guy just came and he said my options were to get a new box and lose all my saved shows (Battlestar Galactica, Friday Night Lights, several other shows I've been saving up to watch all at once!!!)... or... see if you guys can help! 8-)

Anyone know what needs to be done to get this thing to work again? Can I take it to Manhattan, connect it and "-re-activate" it at least for awhile?

Thanks!!!

Can you fill in the details? Why did the repair guy - who I assume was a Time Warner tech? - say you had to get a new box? The message you're getting does not sound like your DVR has failed; it simply sounds like the box needs to be re-authorized at your new location. Can't you call customer service and have them re-authorize your box at your new location? Have you called customer service and what was the result? It sounds like your DVR worked in your new Queens location for a couple weeks so I'm not sure why it would suddenly shut off. Hold off on replacing the DVR until you call customer service.

Can you fill in the details? Why did the repair guy - who I assume was a Time Warner tech? - say you had to get a new box? The message you're getting does not sound like your DVR has failed; it simply sounds like the box needs to be re-authorized at your new location. Can't you call customer service and have them re-authorize your box at your new location? Have you called customer service and what was the result? It sounds like your DVR worked in your new Queens location for a couple weeks so I'm not sure why it would suddenly shut off. Hold off on replacing the DVR until you call customer service.

In "theory" you should be able to bring your DVR from one borough to another. But I'm not sure that this works in practice. Definitely works if you stay in the same borough, but I wonder if moving between boroughs is not possible?

It could be related to the fact that Manhattan/Bronx and Brooklyn/Queens/SI used to be 2 different cable systems owned by 2 different companies and still might not be sharing all their info?

In "theory" you should be able to bring your DVR from one borough to another. But I'm not sure that this works in practice. Definitely works if you stay in the same borough, but I wonder if moving between boroughs is not possible?

It could be related to the fact that Manhattan/Bronx and Brooklyn/Queens/SI used to be 2 different cable systems owned by 2 different companies and still might not be sharing all their info?

Not just 2... They were broken up more than that....

My condolences.

So I'm about to take a trip into TWC @ 23rd St. to return some other hardware. If I take the HDC in do they have any alternative boxes?

Thanks,
John

Queens TW boxes don't work correctly in Manhattan. Channel lineup is crazy. Doesn't load the Guide. I suppose a Manhattan box will have similar issues in Queens.

See my experience here -

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6629378#post6629378

Hi

Sorry if this is the wrong forum...

I have a TWC HD DVR that I moved from Manhattan to Queens, NY. It is 92% full, and worked perfectly from Feb 6 through Feb 23 or so (forgot the exact day).

Suddenly, one morning I got "this box is not authorized for use" message. The repair guy just came and he said my options were to get a new box and lose all my saved shows (Battlestar Galactica, Friday Night Lights, several other shows I've been saving up to watch all at once!!!)... or... see if you guys can help! 8-)

Anyone know what needs to be done to get this thing to work again? Can I take it to Manhattan, connect it and "-re-activate" it at least for awhile?

Thanks!!!

I just became an unfortunate owner of a 8300HDC. That thing is just so damn slow and clunky.

What is slow exactly? Keep in mind your box may not have updated to the new firmware yet so it may just need time to download the updates. To speed up channel changing make the output resolution only 1080i.

What is slow exactly? Keep in mind your box may not have updated to the new firmware yet so it may just need time to download the updates. To speed up channel changing make the output resolution only 1080i.Not personally attacking you-- but why are you constantly defending this piece of crap. It sucks. Have you ever had a non HDC Passport model-- to compare the two?

Forget about setting the output to 1080, or the brand of television etc.. When I talk about slow, I am talking about basic functions like setting up a recording or deleting a recording. These steps take five times the amount of time to perform than the older model. This is important. This extended time is intolerable because you don’t know if it is actually happening. If you hit select again, thinking it didn’t take, then you could screw up whatever you’re watching.

In addition, I used the ridiculous “start again” crappy feature for the first time last night. What a mistake. I turned on an hour program with about twenty minutes into the show. I would have been better served if I would have recorded the rest of the show and watched it later sacrificing the first twenty minutes. The reason being, I tried to pause for a phone call and within a few minutes, I lost my buffer and was live. I was now watching the last ten minutes of the show live and missed everything else. Losing a buffer is a common occurrence.


If you are an average viewer who simply wants to be capable of two-tuner viewing and a guide that works the way it should-- then stay away from the HDC.

What is slow exactly? Keep in mind your box may not have updated to the new firmware yet so it may just need time to download the updates. To speed up channel changing make the output resolution only 1080i.

Channel changes, navigating settings menu. I already changed the output to 1080i only. Is there any way of checking if my firmware was updated?

Channel changes, navigating settings menu. I already changed the output to 1080i only. Is there any way of checking if my firmware was updated?Go back and demand an 8300HD box—not the HDC. Unless of course you’re in need of an over priced On Demand, a useless Start Over and an unnecessary on screen caller ID—and you’re a masochist.

I just got a new SA 5300HDC from Time Warner in the Hudson Valley. I have found that when I hook the box to my TV with HDMI, when I connect the audio to my receiver with either an optical or coax cable, the only signal is 2 channels.

But if I switch to use component output instead, the optical output works just fine putting out 5.1 the way I expect.

I've looked all through the setup options and I can't find anything to "turn on" 5.1 output when using HDMI. There's just an "audio output" setting that is "digital" with no other options.

Is there anything I'm missing, or do I just need to continue using component output? If I were to get a receiver that took HDMI input, would it be getting 5.1 input or would there be a problem there too?

I'm pretty sure that this is just the way this unfortunate box works, but I'd appreciate confirmation from anyone else (or better yet, a work-around). I'm not optimistic about trying to discuss this with a Time Warner rep.

Thanks...

There is a way to fix this, but I can't for the life of me remember how...I'm at work now, I'll ck when I get home.

Edit: wait...5300 HDC?? or 8300 HDC ?

Ok, found it.

Assuming it's the 8300HDC with Navigator software:

Menu...Settings....Devices...

That will take you to a more advanced screen.

Scroll up to Audio: Digital Output, select it, and then scroll to select Dolby Digital.

That should do it.

Channel changes, navigating settings menu. I already changed the output to 1080i only. Is there any way of checking if my firmware was updated?

go to channel 996, that is a basic diagnostic screen and go to page 6. My ODN is at 2.4.10_11, cable card version 01.01.10p9 and axiom 1.2.148.2. For a more advanced diagnostic screen hold down select until the mail icon comes up on the box and then press down arrow. The bootstrapper there is at 2.4.6_1. Not sure what all these things mean but I think the ODN is most important.

Not personally attacking you-- but why are you constantly defending this piece of crap. It sucks. Have you ever had a non HDC Passport model-- to compare the two?

Forget about setting the output to 1080, or the brand of television etc.. When I talk about slow, I am talking about basic functions like setting up a recording or deleting a recording. These steps take five times the amount of time to perform than the older model. This is important. This extended time is intolerable because you don’t know if it is actually happening. If you hit select again, thinking it didn’t take, then you could screw up whatever you’re watching.

In addition, I used the ridiculous “start again” crappy feature for the first time last night. What a mistake. I turned on an hour program with about twenty minutes into the show. I would have been better served if I would have recorded the rest of the show and watched it later sacrificing the first twenty minutes. The reason being, I tried to pause for a phone call and within a few minutes, I lost my buffer and was live. I was now watching the last ten minutes of the show live and missed everything else. Losing a buffer is a common occurrence.


If you are an average viewer who simply wants to be capable of two-tuner viewing and a guide that works the way it should-- then stay away from the HDC.

Just trying to help the guy out, he may not be able to get a passport box anymore. I see nothing wrong with me helping the guy so he has a more enjoyable experience with the HDC. I did have an 8300HD but the HDMI port met with an accident when I got a new TV lol and I was given an HDC. The HD used to skip and drop audio like crazy for me, stopped with the HDC until the recent channel updates. The guide is fine and no where near the slowness of a cablevision guide.

Patience is a virtue :) and really we are talking milliseconds here and stop mashing buttons :)
Gray sidebars that I find intolerable lol

Patience is a virtue :) and really we are talking milliseconds here and stop mashing buttons :) This is true, :D I should be more patient but too many times I have hit the select button mistakenly assuming that I did not properly select a command—screwing up what I was watching. :mad:

And by the way, it might be a millisecond but I counted and it’s four thousand :eek: milliseconds.:p

Ok, found it.

Assuming it's the 8300HDC with Navigator software:

Menu...Settings....Devices...

That will take you to a more advanced screen.

Scroll up to Audio: Digital Output, select it, and then scroll to select Dolby Digital.

That should do it.


Sorry, it is the 8300. I'll take a look and see if I can find that. Thanks for the tip. I sure thought I looked through all the menus.

Starting this evening I began to not receive a lot of my HD channels (ie: 705, 707, 709, 711, 712, 764, 765, etc). Actually only about a dozen of the HD station are coming though. I am curious if anyone else is suffering from an outage tonight.
I am in Northern Manhattan and am using cable cards. Having spoken to TWC several times tonight, the last girl I spoke with admitted that a lot of people have been calling about not receiving 705 and 707 tonight. Is anyone else on the forum having a problem with their channels tonight. Thanks!

Noticed last night we were getting the west coast feed for "TMC Extra HD" on channel 673. Maybe that's a sign we will be getting the rest of the premium HD channel west coast feeds.

Noticed last night we were getting the west coast feed for "TMC Extra HD" on channel 673. Maybe that's a sign we will be getting the rest of the premium HD channel west coast feeds.Great, :rolleyes: now there will be nothing to watch on that channel-- three hours earlier.
:p

Is there anything to watch on a large percentage of premium, or even regular channels?

Nowadays, you are lucky if there is one program you want to watch on a network. Time Warner Cable offers me premiums every so often. The TMC package had absolutely nothing going for it. In a week I found one movie I wanted to watch.

Encore has a bunch of older movies, and I could find a bunch of classics to watch if I subscribed to it. They never seem to offer a preview of Starz. Showtime, HBO and Cinemax have a decent selection, but in a week you've exhausted the 2-5 newer movies you want to watch and have nothing to do for the rest of the month except hunt for more classics. Into month two, with maybe one or two new movies released, less to watch.

Premium original programming is certainly worth considering. But if you wait a few months/years, it'llbe on DVD or a less expensive network and you can watch it in reruns.

That is the problem of every network. They certainly have enough in their vaults and contracts to vary things a lot more. I wouldn't complain about more variety. I don't mind if a movie reairs three or four times a month. I may have missed it the first time. But these stations seem to be on much shorter loops than I'd like.

I wish they'd add something with more variety. But what is left?

Is there anything to watch on a large percentage of premium, or even regular channels?
....
I wish they'd add something with more variety. But what is left?Sometimes I luck out with the Starz, HBO, Showtime and Max combo. There is nothing more thrilling (I know, I must live a boring life :p ) --when I check those premiums and see a listing for a film I was waiting for. Unfortunately, there are very long dry spells, when those channels have absolutely nothing to offer- like right now. I realize that much of this has to do with the marketplace—if there are no good films out there then what do you expect. However, there are many movies released, worth watching, that never seem to make it to the premium channels. If it were not for the few shows I catch on HBO and Showtime, I would dump the entire premium package and switch to Netflix. I might do that after I pick up one of those Bluray thingys.

Agreed... But it's a lot better than not having those channels. In fact Verizon is including upwards of 17 west coast HD premium channel feeds in their line up and if we to do the math and take those channels away that would mean they would have less than 90 HD channels.:D:D

piss poor planning by twc....

670-673 was supposed to be fore the 4 remaining showtime HD channels that are going to launch later this year...

I guess they had to add a TMC because it made no sense for most people to pay for a package of 2 for the same price as the HBO or Showtime (etc) packages....

They added TMC Xtra HD West for Freq 693 #001 - the former slot for showtime HD until it was shifted a few months ago... so now HBO and UniversalHD are now in a 3-in-1 group again.

I have a silly 8300HDC question. If I use HDMI out, can I also utilize the other outputs (Composite and RF)? My old radio doesn't have many inputs so I have to use the composite audio out to get surround sound and also use RF to watch TV in the basement which is used maybe once or twice a week.

I have a silly 8300HDC question. If I use HDMI out, can I also utilize the other outputs (Composite and RF)? My old radio doesn't have many inputs so I have to use the composite audio out to get surround sound and also use RF to watch TV in the basement which is used maybe once or twice a week.

Yes, but only 1 HD output can be active at any one time.

If you use the HDMI port for example, the Component output will either not work at all, or max out at 480i.

The RF out will always put out an SD signal.

A_C

Yes, but only 1 HD output can be active at any one time.

If you use the HDMI port for example, the Component output will either not work at all, or max out at 480i.

The RF out will always put out an SD signal.

A_C
Excellent news. Hopefully I can dump the crappy mini system and get true surround so I don't have to worry about this.

Sometimes I luck out with the Starz, HBO, Showtime and Max combo. There is nothing more thrilling (I know, I must live a boring life :p ) --when I check those premiums and see a listing for a film I was waiting for. Unfortunately, there are very long dry spells, when those channels have absolutely nothing to offer- like right now. I realize that much of this has to do with the marketplace—if there are no good films out there then what do you expect. However, there are many movies released, worth watching, that never seem to make it to the premium channels. If it were not for the few shows I catch on HBO and Showtime, I would dump the entire premium package and switch to Netflix. I might do that after I pick up one of those Bluray thingys.


It's the long dry spells that annoy me. For the same amount as 1 premium, I could go and rent as many movies as I wanted from Netflix. My supermarket will rent me a movie for $1 a day.

Yes, but only 1 HD output can be active at any one time.

If you use the HDMI port for example, the Component output will either not work at all, or max out at 480i.

The RF out will always put out an SD signal.

A_C



Does anyone know if you can split the component outputs with a Y adapter?

I just happened to noticed that TWC changed the HD slogan on their website to "More than 100 Channels of HD". Ummm. Now it's makes perfect sense as to why they just added the TMC Extra HD west coast feed to their HD channel line up last night. Maybe it was in response to some other telco provider making a similiar claim?

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/learn/cable/hdtv.html

I just happened to noticed that TWC changed the HD slogan on their website to "More than 100 Channels of HD". Ummm. Now it's makes perfect sense as to why they just added the TMC Extra HD west coast feed to their HD channel line up last night. Maybe it was in response to some other telco provider making a similiar claim?

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/learn/cable/hdtv.html

the launch of WPXN HD was delayed - that may have also played a role.

Does anyone know if you can split the component outputs with a Y adapter?
I don't see why you can't. I had composite cables split earlier.

piss poor planning by twc....

670-673 was supposed to be fore the 4 remaining showtime HD channels that are going to launch later this year...

I guess they had to add a TMC because it made no sense for most people to pay for a package of 2 for the same price as the HBO or Showtime (etc) packages....

They added TMC Xtra HD West for Freq 693 #001 - the former slot for showtime HD until it was shifted a few months ago... so now HBO and UniversalHD are now in a 3-in-1 group again.

I was gonna ask that because the HBO picture droped in quality again.

I subscribe to the HD Extra and Sport tier packages but not NHL Center Ice and last night for the first time I noticed that the NHL Network HD channel on 795 was unblocked. Is anyone else getting this channel and do they subscribe to any of the aforementioned packages?

I subscribe to the HD Extra and Sport tier packages but not NHL Center Ice and last night for the first time I noticed that the NHL Network HD channel on 795 was unblocked. Is anyone else getting this channel and do they subscribe to any of the aforementioned packages?

NHLN is a part of the HD Extra/Sports Tier package, I've been getting it since they flipped the switch on the new channels last month.

I am moving from Manhattan to Forest Hills and will have DirecTV as an option since I will have a clear shot at the SW sky from my terrac.

Does anyone have experience with TWC in the Forest Hills area? I know Queens has a newer system since they got many HD channels months before Manhattan did.

I was eager to get DirecTV for some time now but it really isn't a bargain vs cable anymore. I would get their superior (vs TWC) HD DVR for free but I would have to pay $100 for another HD receiver and an optional $25 for a connection to the internet so the DVR can get "On Demand" (download to the box, not true On Demand) channels.

TWC & DTV's monthly rates are pretty comparabale, as are their channel lineups. So unless there is a compelling reason NOT to get TWC (besides the bigger & better DTV DVR), I have to say I am leaning towards TWC.

I subscribe to the HD Extra and Sport tier packages but not NHL Center Ice and last night for the first time I noticed that the NHL Network HD channel on 795 was unblocked. Is anyone else getting this channel and do they subscribe to any of the aforementioned packages?

Thats the way it was supposed to be from the start.. were you getting ch 791 Game hd instead? if so are you still getting it?

I've been getting 791 but not 795 with the same subscriptions... they obviously got the settings reversed... and they still haven't fixed it in my section... getting close to 3 months.... definitely won't complain once baseball season starts

Yawn, does anyone actually care about music choice?


Dear Customers:

We understand the inconvenience when your favorite channel is no longer in its usual spot. Please accept our apology for recent channel changes. From time to time, it's necessary for us to shift channel positions to accommodate programming agreements.



Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens and Mount Vernon

March 6th, 2009



Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their services and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following agreements are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services/stations in the near future:


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In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:



Effective on or about April 15, 2009, the provider of Music Choice services has made the following programming changes:

Hit List will now appear on 601, Hip Hop and R&B on 602, MC Mix Tape on 603, Dance/Electronica on 604, Rap on 605, Hip Hop Classics on 606, Throwback Jamz on 607, R&B Classics on 608, R&B Soul on 609, Gospel on 610, Reggae on 611, Classic Rock on 612, Retro Rock on 613, Rock on 614, Metal on 615, Alternative on 616, Classic Alternative on 617, Adult Alternative on 618, Soft Rock on 619, Pop Hits on 620, 90’s on 621, 80’s on 622, 70’s on 623, Solid Gold Oldies on 624, Party Favorites on 625, Stage & Screen on 626, Kidz Only! On 627, Toddler Tunes on 628, Today’s Country on 629, True Country on 630, Classic Country on 631, Contemporary Christian on 632, Sounds of the Season on 633, Soundscapes on 634, Smooth Jazz on 635, Jazz on 636, Blues on 637, Singers & Swing on 638, Easy Listening on 639, Classical Masterpieces on 640, Light Classical on 641, Musica Urbana on 642, Pop Latino on 643, Tropicales on 644, Mexicana on 645, Romances on 646, Contemporary Instrumentals on 647, Taste of Italy on 648 and Tejano 649.



Classic Alternative on 617, Stage & Screen on 616, Toddler Tunes on 628, True Country on 630, and Singers & Swing on 638 will be added. In addition, the names of the following services have been changed: Classic R&B on 606 to R&B Classics, R&B Hits, on 608 to Throwback Jamz, Lite Hits on 619 to Soft Rock, Adult Top 40 on 620 to Pop Hits, and Salsa y Merengue on 644 to Tropicales. Also, the following services have been combined: Arena Rock on and Retro-Active will be Retro Rock on 613, Dance and Electronica will be Dance/Electronica on 604 and Big Band & Swing and Singers & Standards will be Singers & Swing on 638.



The following programming has been discontinued by the Provider:
Bluegrass on 604, Showcase on 624, Show Tunes on 637, Rock en Espanol on 646, Americana on 647 and Opera on 648.


Additional changes occurring on or about April 15, 2009 include the launch of either TBN or TBY on ch. 98. This service is available to basic customers with digital cable-compatible equipment, such as a digital converter or a digital television (or other device) that includes a QAM tuner.



On April 17, 2009, in Brooklyn and Queens, Spike TV on ch. 36 will change from a basic service to standard service.

I subscribe to the HD Extra and Sport tier packages but not NHL Center Ice and last night for the first time I noticed that the NHL Network HD channel on 795 was unblocked. Is anyone else getting this channel and do they subscribe to any of the aforementioned packages?

Yup... HDXtra. I noticed the HD channel has FINALLY been "turned on." But whatever was on had a VS logo...

Yawn, does anyone actually care about music choice?

I do... I think they are a very hidden feature of my cable subscription. OTOH, they always stay in the 600-650 range so there is NEVER A NEED to shuffle channel numbers.

I do... I think they are a very hidden feature of my cable subscription. .Agree,:cool: I put them on quite often, eclectically surfing (say that five times fast :D ) from one musical genre to another.

Eventually, I’ll probably be doing less Music Choice. I'm upgrading my receiver to one that streams internet radio and – more importantly—has HD Radio—in my opinion-- is the greatest- commercial free, excellent sound quality.

I have a couple of smaller HD Radios in my home and look forward to cranking the stations on my main system. If you are not familiar with HD Radio and enjoy music—check it out. I was listening to portions of old Scot Muni shows over the weekend. A real trip. :cool:

Agree,:cool: I put them on quite often, eclectically surfing (say that five times fast :D ) from one musical genre to another.

Eventually, I’ll probably be doing less Music Choice. I'm upgrading my receiver to one that streams internet radio and – more importantly—has HD Radio—in my opinion-- is the greatest- commercial free, excellent sound quality.

I have a couple of smaller HD Radios in my home and look forward to cranking the stations on my main system. If you are not familiar with HD Radio and enjoy music—check it out. I was listening to portions of old Scot Muni shows over the weekend. A real trip. :cool:

I never listen to the Music Choice stations.....if they went away I wouldn't miss them at all....

HD Radio -- I've got the nice little Sony tuner on my system -- HD radio has its positives and negatives -- nice clean reception and no "crackles" but in terms of fidelity, it often sounds more like an MP3 than a clean analog radio broadcast. If I compare a clean analog reception of WBGO (the Newark jazz station) versus the HD Radio version there is far less definition in the high end and noticeably less bass in the HDRadio version than the analog reception. I think you do gain something in terms of dynamic range, though because when there is a quiet passage in the music, it's REALLY quiet -- almost like a CD. I wish my tuner would allow me to bypass the HD radio option (allowing me to pick it up in standard analog radio mode) when an HD signal is detected....

HD radio has its positives and negatives -- nice clean reception and no "crackles" but in terms of fidelity, it often sounds more like an MP3 than a clean analog radio broadcast. If I compare a clean analog reception of WBGO (the Newark jazz station) versus the HD Radio version there is far less definition in the high end and noticeably less bass in the HDRadio version than the analog reception. I think you do gain something in terms of dynamic range, though because when there is a quiet passage in the music, it's REALLY quiet -- almost like a CD. I wish my tuner would allow me to bypass the HD radio option (allowing me to pick it up in standard analog radio mode) when an HD signal is detected....This is interesting, since currently, I only listen to HD Radio on one of my two Sangean table radios. They sound great, for what they are-- table radios, so I assumed that it would be that much better through my main system.

I certainly agree regarding the horrors of all of these compressed music sources today. I have Sirius in my car and the quality is pathetic compared to a CD. However, it is still a great feature that I would never want to part with especially if you ever do nice road trips. There is nothing better than listening to the same station, staying connected for hundreds of miles.

NHLN is a part of the HD Extra/Sports Tier package, I've been getting it since they flipped the switch on the new channels last month.


Everyone knows that the NHL Network channel comes with the sports tier package but when TWC first launched the HD feed for the NHL Network channel on channel 795 in December of 2008 no one in Northern Manhattan was getting the channel. What I am trying to figure out here is whether or not TWC is giving the channel to everyone or just to people who subscribe to their HD Extra/Sports tier package.

This is interesting, since currently, I only listen to HD Radio on one of my two Sangean table radios. They sound great, for what they are-- table radios, so I assumed that it would be that much better through my main system.

I certainly agree regarding the horrors of all of these compressed music sources today. I have Sirius in my car and the quality is pathetic compared to a CD. However, it is still a great feature that I would never want to part with especially if you ever do nice road trips. There is nothing better than listening to the same station, staying connected for hundreds of miles.

You should expect the quality of HDRadio to be similar to the quality of Sirius, I think. Especially when the station is broadcasting multiple HD Radio streams (as many do). "HD Radio" is sort of a misnomer -- it's not high definition at all -- it's more like "LDD" low definition digital, or "MDD" medium definition digital, at best. ;)

You should expect the quality of HDRadio to be similar to the quality of Sirius, I think. Especially when the station is broadcasting multiple HD Radio streams (as many do). "HD Radio" is sort of a misnomer -- it's not high definition at all -- it's more like "LDD" low definition digital, or "MDD" medium definition digital, at best. ;)
Sorry, to the rest of the folks here for this off topic conversation but indulge me a little longer. :)

Thanks Scott, this is good to know. I won’t expect CD quality sound from an HD Radio equipped receiver.

I guess one of the reasons I am impressed with my HD Radio is because of the way it transforms the mediocre sounds of AM. This is where the audio improvements are most noticeable.

You should expect the quality of HDRadio to be similar to the quality of Sirius, I think. Especially when the station is broadcasting multiple HD Radio streams (as many do). "HD Radio" is sort of a misnomer -- it's not high definition at all -- it's more like "LDD" low definition digital, or "MDD" medium definition digital, at best. ;)

It's also important to note that the "HD" in HD Radio stands for 'Hybrid Digital' not high definition.

A_C

On April 17, 2009, in Brooklyn and Queens, Spike TV on ch. 36 will change from a basic service to standard service.

i got excited at the beginning of that statement. for a second i though spikehd was coming.

I don't see why you can't. I had composite cables split earlier.
You can split the component signal, but you'll be dropping the level in half, so you will probably get a dark picture. The component signal is analog, so instead of 1 volt, you'll only be providing .5 volts.

Just noticed that MSG HD is now broadcasting with a 5.1 signal (up until now it was 2.0 - meanwhile and MSG+HD still has a 'fake' 5.1 where they loudly throw the same sound into all 5 speakers)

so far I don't hear anything in the rears though....

Just noticed that MSG HD is now broadcasting with a 5.1 signal (up until now it was 2.0 - meanwhile and MSG+HD still has a 'fake' 5.1 where they loudly throw the same sound into all 5 speakers)

so far I don't hear anything in the rears though....

I don't see any evidence that they've gone to 5.1. On my system it's still a front speakers only 2.0 sound.

I don't see any evidence that they've gone to 5.1. On my system it's still a front speakers only 2.0 sound.

well the sound is only 2.0.... but my receiver is reporting a 5.1 signal.... (which is worse than if they had just kept the signal 2.0.... i'd rather let my receiver play its games with the 2.0 signal instead of me being stuck with nothing coming out of the rears0

On April 17, 2009, in Brooklyn and Queens, Spike TV on ch. 36 will change from a basic service to standard service.

No one seems to take issue with the fact, interestingly enough, that basic service is slowly being eroded away.

That leaves, eliminating the public access and local broadcast stations, NY1, TV Guide, Food Network, and TBS. Even all of the broadcast stations aren't classified in Basic Service, for some reason, WWOR-HD is a standard channel.

I continue to be surprised at the tiers Time Warner offers and their division. They say ala carte is too expensive to offer, but for digital customers(And what else is there nowadays?), cable only comes in two basic flavors, plus the premium channels, and the HDXtra package(such as it is).

HDC box 1 dead. Worked fine this morning. Try to watch TV after work and get a no cablecard detected error. Anyone have luck at 23rd street getting an HD box?

Just remembered to check if 795 NHL Network HD is working for me....

It is....

(791 GAME HD still working too)

Just flipped over to the 460s for the first time in a while...

465 Tennis HD is basically dead on my box - frozen messed up picture
467 CBS college sports - video messed up and I think i know why... its being sent at 720p.... but its a 1080i channel... (anyone else getting it at 720p?)

What you said in the past two posts are true for me as well. CBS College Sports looks more like an Internet Stream that keeps buffering than a fake 720p channel.

What you said in the past two posts are true for me as well. CBS College Sports looks more like an Internet Stream that keeps buffering than a fake 720p channel.

yes I have the same issues in the twc dallas system with CBS College Sports HD.

Is S. Manhattan a 750 or 850 MHz system? Either way, if there are only about 35 analogs left, there should be plenty of bandwidth, even with 100 HD channels.

Is S. Manhattan a 750 or 850 MHz system? Either way, if there are only about 35 analogs left, there should be plenty of bandwidth, even with 100 HD channels.

Yep, "bandwidth" is no longer a vaild excuse for TWC-NYC not to provide any HD channels. As far as I can tell, we have all of the HD channels that TWC corporate has deals to provide at this point.

Sorry, to the rest of the folks here for this off topic conversation but indulge me a little longer. :)

Thanks Scott, this is good to know. I won’t expect CD quality sound from an HD Radio equipped receiver.

I guess one of the reasons I am impressed with my HD Radio is because of the way it transforms the mediocre sounds of AM. This is where the audio improvements are most noticeable.

Also apologies for the off topic posting.....

Interesting -- I've never found anything on the AM band that I've been interested in listening to, but I would imagine that the HD Radio signal on the AM band would be a HUGE improvement...Never tried it myself.

Bye bye HDC. Just picked up an 8300HD, let's hope this works!

Yep, "bandwidth" is no longer a vaild excuse for TWC-NYC not to provide any HD channels. As far as I can tell, we have all of the HD channels that TWC corporate has deals to provide at this point.

Not that anyone is clamoring for them but if TWC really wanted to they could provide us with all of the HD premium west coast feeds they have at their disposal and not to mention the Outdoor Channel HD. You would think from a marketing standpoint they would want to add as many HD channels as possible to surpass Verizon FiOS who is offering up to 17 HD premium west coast feeds and the Outdoor Channel HD.

Not that anyone is clamoring for them but if TWC really wanted to they could provide us with all of the HD premium west coast feeds they have at their disposal and not to mention the Outdoor Channel HD. You would think from a marketing standpoint they would want to add as many HD channels as possible to surpass Verizon FiOS who is offering up to 17 HD premium west coast feeds and the Outdoor Channel HD.

I'd much rather prefer that they dont add them.....

I have an old SA 8300HD using Passport. The problem is that I do not get:
- HD on Demand
- Start over
I do get them on my SA 4250HDC. I was going to switch to the SA 8300HDC but it seams that most of the members of this forum feel that the benefits are not worth the delay problems and and several other issues with HDC.

It appears most are waiting for the Samsung H3090 to be available in NYC (if they want a DVR).
If they don't want a DVR then the majority appear to prefer the SA 4250 over the Samsung 3050.

Am I correct?

Jake

Interesting...

tonight CBS College Sports HD is 1080i.... and Tennis HD works just fine.

Interesting...

tonight CBS College Sports HD is 1080i.... and Tennis HD works just fine.

Im still having issues in dallas.

I have an old SA 8300HD using Passport. The problem is that I do not get:
- HD on Demand
- Start over
I do get them on my SA 4250HDC. I was going to switch to the SA 8300HDC but it seams that most of the members of this forum feel that the benefits are not worth the delay problems and and several other issues with HDC.

It appears most are waiting for the Samsung H3090 to be available in NYC (if they want a DVR).
If they don't want a DVR then the majority appear to prefer the SA 4250 over the Samsung 3050.

Am I correct?

Jake

Navigator will be the same navigator whether it's on an HDC or a Samsung. If you are just trying to record a show here and there just get an HDC. If you feel the need to switch tuners while recording multiple items or other strange stuff :D then the HDC or Samsung DVR with Navigator probably is not for you.

Does anyone know when the Samsung H3090 will be available at TWC NYC? Has anyone used it and have some comments?

Jake

Navigator will be the same navigator whether it's on an HDC or a Samsung. If you are just trying to record a show here and there just get an HDC. If you feel the need to switch tuners while recording multiple items or other strange stuff :D then the HDC or Samsung DVR with Navigator probably is not for you.
Thanks. I need to get a non DVR HD cable box for a relative and want to make sure that the SA 4250 (which I have in one room) is the best choice.

Since I have to go to 23rd St I thought I might exchange my old SA 8300HD for one that allows me to view the new HD on demand channels. I have been putting that off as I had read some poor reviews of the 8300HDC version in this forum and wondered if the new Samsung DVR would be better.

Jake

Thanks. I need to get a non DVR HD cable box for a relative and want to make sure that the SA 4250 (which I have in one room) is the best choice.

Since I have to go to 23rd St I thought I might exchange my old SA 8300HD for one that allows me to view the new HD on demand channels. I have been putting that off as I had read some poor reviews of the 8300HDC version in this forum and wondered if the new Samsung DVR would be better.

Jake

Your mileage may vary.

I've had the HDC for close to two years and for every month that passes I like it less and less. Meanwhile, I've loved my HD since day one three years ago. (I have one of each now).

Compared to the HD, the HDC has poor program info, is intermittently sluggish (any time you press a button, you can expect a random delay of between 2 and 20 seconds before the HDC reacts), programing options are much more limited, and they require a hard reboot every few months. The only advantages would be the two on-demand channels (one with a lame list of movies for $$$$$, the other with lame free stuff), and 'start over', which is annoying since you can't fast-forward when watching it.

I'm getting closer and closer to the day when I'm going to brave the lines at TWC to beg beg beg for an HD box, so I can finally get rid of the pestilence that is the HDC.

TWC seems to have fixed the bugginess that afflicted the HDC in the early days, but they don't appear to have used the intervening years to add or improve any features.

Just my two cents. It's not useless, but being familiar with a better alternative, it's difficult for me to accept the HD.

Your mileage may vary.

I've had the HDC for close to two years and for every month that passes I like it less and less. Meanwhile, I've loved my HD since day one three years ago. (I have one of each now).

Compared to the HD, the HDC has poor program info, is intermittently sluggish (any time you press a button, you can expect a random delay of between 2 and 20 seconds before the HDC reacts), programing options are much more limited, and they require a hard reboot every few months. The only advantages would be the two on-demand channels (one with a lame list of movies for $$$$$, the other with lame free stuff), and 'start over', which is annoying since you can't fast-forward when watching it.

I'm getting closer and closer to the day when I'm going to brave the lines at TWC to beg beg beg for an HD box, so I can finally get rid of the pestilence that is the HDC.

TWC seems to have fixed the bugginess that afflicted the HDC in the early days, but they don't appear to have used the intervening years to add or improve any features.

Just my two cents. It's not useless, but being familiar with a better alternative, it's difficult for me to accept the HD.
No need to beg at 23rd street for the 8300HD. I went in, said I wanted the box with the old software....no questions asked I walked out with an 8300HD (besides the 45min wait for a 2 min job).

My mileage is great, never had to hard reboot ever, my buttons respond right away (try changing the batteries in the remote) and it is better to have start over then not even if you have to watch some commercials god forbid. I have used it and I like the option. You all do realize that you are not going to be able to hang on to your passport boxes for your entire lives, what will you do when you can't get it anymore or they push navigator on your precious passport box? :confused:

My mileage is great, never had to hard reboot ever, my buttons respond right away (try changing the batteries in the remote) and it is better to have start over then not even if you have to watch some commercials god forbid. I have used it and I like the option. You all do realize that you are not going to be able to hang on to your passport boxes for your entire lives, what will you do when you can't get it anymore or they push navigator on you? :confused:

Hope that Navigator is fixed by then

Hopefully by that time TWC finally improves the software in the HDC boxes.

Even if they do you guys will still find something that you feel passport does better. If you come in with a bad attitude about something you will never like it even if nothing is wrong. Look I wouldn't post about the HDC in a good light if it gave me trouble, I work in IT. It works for me and I watch a decent amount of TV so I don't know sounds like a lot of this stuff is user error and impatience which leads to mashing buttons which yea will screw up your box.

Lets try this because I really want to get to the bottom of what is going on. If you get an HDC check the firmware right away ( I have posted earlier how to check) and post the version you are at, because maybe just maybe they are given out without the updates (sounds like something TWC would do stupidly) Who knows maybe takes a week or something for it to update.

....my buttons respond right away (try changing the batteries in the remote) and it is better to have start over then not even if you have to watch some commercials god forbid. I have used it and I like the option. You all do realize that you are not going to be able to hang on to your passport boxes for your entire lives, what will you do when you can't get it anymore or they push navigator on your precious passport box?
Even if they do you guys will still find something that you feel passport does better. If you come in with a bad attitude about something you will never like it even if nothing is wrong. Look I wouldn't post about the HDC in a good light if it gave me trouble, I work in IT. It works for me and I watch a decent amount of TV so I don't know sounds like a lot of this stuff is user error and impatience which leads to mashing buttons which yea will screw up your box.You have stated in the past that you do not need the full potential of the DVR. So of course, you are satisfied with the HDC. I am beginning to think that you have a hidden agenda regarding the Navigator box, since you are the only one who consistently deflects all criticisms—on any thread.

It’s not the batteries; it’s not the lack of patience, or user error. The box is slow-- slow to the point where it cascades into further mistakes. It has a faulty buffer system that would be of a concern to the majority of DVR users, most here are savvy enough to expect functionality. Not you of course. Your viewing style is content to disregard buffers and tuners. Fine, enjoy it, but understand that it is a shoddy piece of crap.

And as far as Navigator, inevitably getting shoved down our throats-- If a grandfather is bald and his adult son is bald should the grandson shave his head- now, because inevitably he will be bald too? As Berk said, hopefully they will have fixed it by then. By that time, there might be more options available to TW customers like the availability of FIOS or even the consideration of Tivo, etc. .

You have stated in the past that you do not need the full potential of the DVR. So of course, you are satisfied with the HDC. I am beginning to think that you have a hidden agenda regarding the Navigator box, since you are the only one who consistently deflects all criticisms—on any thread.

It’s not the batteries; it’s not the lack of patience, or user error. The box is slow-- slow to the point where it cascades into further mistakes. It has a faulty buffer system that would be of a concern to the majority of DVR users, most here are savvy enough to expect functionality. Not you of course. Your viewing style is content to disregard buffers and tuners. Fine, enjoy it, but understand that it is a shoddy piece of crap.

And as far as Navigator, inevitably getting shoved down our throats-- If a grandfather is bald and his adult son is bald should the grandson shave his head- now, because inevitably he will be bald too? As Berk said, hopefully they will have fixed it by then. By that time, there might be more options available to TW customers like the availability of FIOS or even the consideration of Tivo, etc. .

These types of accusations is not going to help us solve this. I have no hidden agenda but to help and be a voice of reason. I am having a good experience and wish to help others have the same if they have an HDC. Someone had to do it. The box is not slow at all, I press a button like guide a screen opens, I hit record it starts recording. I schedule a series it does not miss anything but 10 sec of credits -so what? I don't feel the need to watch 10 shows at once switch tuners all the sudden then try to rewind what I was watching b4 I switch tuners, it is not meant to switch tuners like that apparently. You don't like my posts, don't read them.

These types of accusations is not going to help us solve this...Solve what??? You just said it works fine. What will help is a clear understanding of the flaws in the unit.

Hopefully by that time TWC finally improves the software in the HDC boxes.

The HDC boxes in our division run 3.1.0_11 which is a much later version of ODN. There might be some new version being tested with features like Keyword search and being able to program your DVR via the internet.

Solve what??? You just said it works fine. What will help is a clear understanding of the flaws in the unit.

Solve why it works for me and no one else. How come I do not have to hard reboot ever. Why is mine fast and everyone else is slow, something is not right here. If it were slow believe me I would be the first to complain. It scrolls through the guide fast. Maybe it is slightly slower then Passport but it is slight if anything. It deletes a show I would say in about 5-10 sec and I would say closer to 5 sec. I will try and make a video with my camera and post it.

Ok I got TW to reduce my bill something like 15% not bad, But I started thinking they should do better. I called them today. I started telling the rep I was supposed to get 23% off and this didn't look right, bla, bla. I got transferred to the retention dept went through the same story to my surprise the Rep asked me for the phone number of this "friend" who got a better deal, I asked her if I gave her the number would she guarantee me the same deal? After back and forth she agreed. So all I have to do now is find my Friend who got this great deal. On the flip side I told her a bunch of people would also want the same she was like- Ok. My bill was 206 with tax now it is 176, I have the whole enchilada plus 3 boxes and one HDDVR no phone I don't want their phone, $5 more. Anyone have It's all here with Broadband for $150+/- ?
the boxes are separate. I have her name, Phone # Ext and Id number plus I recorded her promise! I was on a mission! OK so what do all my friends think?
besides I had to much time on my hands today!

Ok folks I have filmed the guide in action and deleting a show. I need to find a way to compress the files however they are like 30meg each. Also I tried a quick picture in picture swap and both tuners still had the buffer, I could rewind each tuner after swapping. I was not recoding anything at the time however if that makes any difference. Now I only did this for a few seconds so maybe that was not enough time but I do not think that worked before, maybe there was an update.

Solve why it works for me and no one else. How come I do not have to hard reboot ever. Why is mine fast and everyone else is slow, something is not right here. If it were slow believe me I would be the first to complain. It scrolls through the guide fast. Maybe it is slightly slower then Passport but it is slight if anything. It deletes a show I would say in about 5-10 sec and I would say closer to 5 sec. I will try and make a video with my camera and post it.
I want to thank everyone who responded to my question concerning the 8300HD vs HDC. I did not intend to start a "war" but this appears to be a heated issue. I may wait a couple of months and see if the Samsung HDDVR becomes available in NYC. If not, I will switch to the 8300HDC mainly because I want HD on Demand. That was not an issue until recently. If it turns out to be as slow as some here say than I will regret my decision and try to switch back.

Does anyone know if the Samsung HDDVR is expected soon in TWNYC?

Jake

I want to thank everyone who responded to my question concerning the 8300HD vs HDC. I did not intend to start a "war" but this appears to be a heated issue. I may wait a couple of months and see if the Samsung HDDVR becomes available in NYC. If not, I will switch to the 8300HDC mainly because I want HD on Demand. That was not an issue until recently. If it turns out to be as slow as some here say than I will regret my decision and try to switch back.

Does anyone know if the Samsung HDDVR is expected soon in TWNYC?

Jake

I was at 23rd St last week. They told me the employees are testing the Samsung DVR and it should be available by summer.

I need everyones help here. I just received my HDMI cables and am trying to hook the 8300HD to a sony KDL46Z4100. As soon as I connect the HDMI cable, the picture disappears and the TV says no signal detected. I connected the TV using component and the picture is there. I go into settings to check the "audio digital out" and I do not see an option for HDMI as suggested when I searched for this. Does anyone have any insght as to what else I can check. Thanks!!

Thanks. In that case I may try the SA8300HDC in a couple of weeks just for the HD on Demand and hope that I have the same good experience as Lee7n. I will switch to the Samsung DVR if it get sigificantly better reviews or try to get my non "C" version back.

Jake

These types of accusations is not going to help us solve this. I have no hidden agenda but to help and be a voice of reason. I am having a good experience and wish to help others have the same if they have an HDC. Someone had to do it. The box is not slow at all, I press a button like guide a screen opens, I hit record it starts recording. I schedule a series it does not miss anything but 10 sec of credits -so what? I don't feel the need to watch 10 shows at once switch tuners all the sudden then try to rewind what I was watching b4 I switch tuners, it is not meant to switch tuners like that apparently. You don't like my posts, don't read them.

Your unbridled "love" of this box is going a long ways to convincing me that you are a TWC shill. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though: I'm not quite ready to accuse you of this, but it sure "feels" that way. You seem to really like this box that very few others like, and many others (possibly including me) dislike.

With regards to my personal needs, the HDC, has only three advantages:

- you can configure the color of the side bars
- it shows total disk usage
- pause, rewind, etc. work with an external drive [EXTREMELY important to me]

On the negative side (again the ones that matter to me personally):

- unreliable (admittedly, much less so than it used to be)
- no keyword search
- no priority for series record [EXTREMELY important to me]


-barry

I need everyones help here. I just received my HDMI cables and am trying to hook the 8300HD to a sony KDL46Z4100. As soon as I connect the HDMI cable, the picture disappears and the TV says no signal detected. I connected the TV using component and the picture is there. I go into settings to check the "audio digital out" and I do not see an option for HDMI as suggested when I searched for this. Does anyone have any insght as to what else I can check. Thanks!!

did you try changing your TV input? (video1, video2, video3, etc) - the HDMI input wont be the same as the component one....

Your unbridled "love" of this box is going a long ways to convincing me that you are a TWC shill. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though: I'm not quite ready to accuse you of this, but it sure "feels" that way. You seem to really like this box that very few others like, and many others (possibly including me) dislike.

With regards to my personal needs, the HDC, has only three advantages:

- you can configure the color of the side bars
- it shows total disk usage
- pause, rewind, etc. work with an external drive [EXTREMELY important to me]

On the negative side (again the ones that matter to me personally):

- unreliable (admittedly, much less so than it used to be)
- no keyword search
- no priority for series record [EXTREMELY important to me]


-barry

I do not work for TWC lol, I wouldn't have asked many times about when we were getting those HD channels if I worked for them, plus I don't think they take kindly to their employee's posting here.

did you try changing your TV input? (video1, video2, video3, etc) - the HDMI input wont be the same as the component one....

Yes, I am not that far behind in electronics logic.

Ah ha. I got it. Seems like its a problem on the box.

This is strange, I cannot use HDMI and RF out at the same time. The video on the RF out disappears after a little while but the audio still plays. Is this a problem or is that how it is supposed to be?

Has anybody ever gotten VS HD to come in in Astoria? VS kicked off their IndyCar coverage with a Danica documentary at 2pm today. However, every time I turn the channel there, my box freezes for almost a minute. Nothing but a black or grey screen. I really hope they fix this before the actual races start or I will be making this face: :mad: a lot

This is strange, I cannot use HDMI and RF out at the same time. The video on the RF out disappears after a little while but the audio still plays. Is this a problem or is that how it is supposed to be?

Forget if it's the HD or HDC or both, but I'm pretty sure that once you plug in HDMI, all other video outputs are disabled. I'm sure there's a reason, whether it's a technical limitation or copyright management paranoia.

Have always wanted to have both plugged in so I could use HDMI when it was working OK, and easily switch to component when it was acting up, but they force you to physically connect disconnect cables to switch. Annoying.

Guide on HDC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdpOkwULGI&feature=channel_page

Deleting a show on HDC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SPVFZ4NZb4&feature=channel_page

If possible someone film a demo of the HD passport box doing the same for a better comparison

Guide on HDC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdpOkwULGI&feature=channel_page

Deleting a show on HDC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SPVFZ4NZb4&feature=channel_page

If possible someone film a demo of the HD passport box doing the same for a better comparison
Lee7n

Thanks for posting the video.

Are you using HDMI or component video cables? The reason I ask is that my SA 4250HDC works quickly and smoothly with component cables but if I use HDMI and do something even as simple as switch stations I get an annoying flickering as if the box is trying to find the correct display format ie 1080i. It gets it but it takes a few seconds. Do you know if that is normal?

Related question: I also have an SA8300HD using component cables. As I recall, I had some problems with controlling audio usng HDMI. I don't remember if there was also a "flickering" problem with HDMI. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I am considering switching to the HDC version just for HD on Demand. Do you know if I will be better off (smoother and quicker transitions) using a component connection vs HDMI? I do not see much difference in picture quality (once I get the picture) between the two.

Lee7n

Thanks for posting the video.

Are you using HDMI or component video cables? The reason I ask is that my SA 4250HDC works quickly and smoothly with component cables but if I use HDMI and do something even as simple as switch stations I get an annoying flickering as if the box is trying to find the correct display format ie 1080i. It gets it but it takes a few seconds. Do you know if that is normal?

Related question: I also have an SA8300HD using component cables. As I recall, I had some problems with controlling audio usng HDMI. I don't remember if there was also a "flickering" problem with HDMI. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I am considering switching to the HDC version just for HD on Demand. Do you know if I will be better off (smoother and quicker transitions) using a component connection vs HDMI? I do not see much difference in picture quality (once I get the picture) between the two.

I use HDMI, If you set output resolution to only 1080i it will switch faster since it will not have to change resolutions if you switch to a 720p or 480i/p channel. There are a lot of 720p now with the new channels.

I use HDMI, If you set output resolution to only 1080i it will switch faster since it will not have to change resolutions if you switch to a 720p or 480i/p channel. There are a lot of 720p now with the new channels.
Thank you Lee7n. I set my resolution to only 1080i (deactivated the other options) and switching channels in HDMI is as fast and smooth as with component cables on my SA 4250HDC. I assume it would be the same on an SA8300HDC so I am more comfortable going to 23 St. and trying that model. It will also help me set up my sisters new 4250HDC box for her new Panasonic LCD HDTV.

Enjoy the warm weather this weekend.

Jake

Well, I went to exchange the 8300HD at Queens Center and ended up with a brand new 8300HDC. This one seems to be a lot better then the first one I got. Everything responds faster then the first box. Hopefully this one lasts.

Well, I went to exchange the 8300HD at Queens Center and ended up with a brand new 8300HDC. This one seems to be a lot better then the first one I got. Everything responds faster then the first box. Hopefully this one lasts.

What version is it at?

Hi all I'm new here.

I have gotten a sa8300 hd dvr from TWC in southern Manhattan and it has 2 problems: First, it will not display widescreen hd on channels that have it no matter what - I can switch from OTA CBS or NBC here in New York and see it right away. Right now I have set it to 1080i only but it makes no difference. I just get the grey sidebars on HD channels. (with letterboxing) I have a new Samsung 32Alcd 450 TV.
Also I cannot find any way to save a show to either of my DVD recorders (which are not HDMI, they use av/component cables). There's no "save to VCR" in the settings and the other methods I've tried haven't worked.
Also, I have no setup wizard.
Any thoughts? Thanks

Hi all I'm new here.

I have gotten a sa8300 hd dvr from TWC in southern Manhattan and it has 2 problems: First, it will not display widescreen hd on channels that have it no matter what - I can switch from OTA CBS or NBC here in New York and see it right away. Right now I have set it to 1080i only but it makes no difference. I just get the grey sidebars on HD channels. (with letterboxing) I have a new Samsung 32Alcd 450 TV.
Also I cannot find any way to save a show to either of my DVD recorders (which are not HDMI, they use av/component cables). There's no "save to VCR" in the settings and the other methods I've tried haven't worked.
Also, I have no setup wizard.
Any thoughts? Thanks

what type of cable are you using to connect you box to the tv?

I have an HDMI going to the TV from the cable box. The box says "Passport Echo" when it boots up. I haven't tried connecting it with components from the box, I hoped the HDMI would work. It works great with my blu-ray dvd player (Sony 350). The TV is 720 but looks great with the blu-ray and the 1080i OTA channels. There also is no setting for "Pass-Through" "Auto HDMI or DVI" or "Upconvert" anywhere.

Thanks again.

no priority for series record [EXTREMELY important to me]

aparently this is in a newer firmware.

btw as an owner of 2 hdc boxes, my only issue with them are the PIP. the placement of the pip and the way it works (or doesnt work).

aparently this is in a newer firmware.

btw as an owner of 2 hdc boxes, my only issue with them are the PIP. the placement of the pip and the way it works (or doesnt work).

That is really good news, if true. I currently have two DVRs: my primary Living Room 8399HD and my backup bedroom 8300HDC. If the new firmware implements priority scheduling, then I will put the external drive on the HDC and switch the boxes.

Thanks for the encouraging news/rumor.

-barry

I called CS last week to inquire about my high bill, about $140. I took a 2-year discount deal late last year and at first it was close to $120. Then a couple of months later it went up. I called then and was told it was charges/taxes that just went up, increasing the bill. It kept bothering me, but I let it go. Last week, I heard on CNN about some guy in Florida who bargained his cable bill down. Well, guess what, the rep told me that my discount had been "removed" and he would "reapply it" to my bill. It's back to $118. He gave me all of the premium movie channels for 30 days (I already had HBO) to compensate me.

I have an HDMI going to the TV from the cable box. The box says "Passport Echo" when it boots up. I haven't tried connecting it with components from the box, I hoped the HDMI would work. It works great with my blu-ray dvd player (Sony 350). The TV is 720 but looks great with the blu-ray and the 1080i OTA channels. There also is no setting for "Pass-Through" "Auto HDMI or DVI" or "Upconvert" anywhere.

Thanks again.

Change the aspect ratio in the settings menu.

I am a current RCN subscriber who just had all (except broadcast networks) clear QAM programming wiped out due to an "upgrade". I am considering a switch to TWC.

Is there anyone here who could let me know what TWC offers up in clear QAM? I am especially interested in TWC Queens although info for Brooklyn and Manhattan are also appreciated.

Thanks.

has anyone used the IR port on the back of this unit? Does it work? If it does work, did you use mono or stereo cable? Thanks.

All the docs that I looked at said "reserved for future use"

Are we limited to how many HD-DVR's you can have on an account?

I currently have 2 HD-DVR's and an SD box. The SD box stopped working today telling me my service is disconnected and to contact TWC. Could this be a result of the 2 HD-DVR's?

Can someone with 2 HD-DVR's confirm their equipment fees.

Here is what I have:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/MacAlert/TWCBill_Page_1.jpg

On top of that, they are charging me a prorated fee of DVR service which I do not understand.

Can someone with 2 HD-DVR's confirm their equipment fees.

On top of that, they are charging me a prorated fee of DVR service which I do not understand.

1) $10.34 is the standard charge for any extra box (dvr or nondvr)

2) I'm pretty sure you have to pay for the 'DVR service' on each box - so 1 dvr service is paid for in the hdextra combo package, the other in the basic 9.95 fee.

1) $10.34 is the standard charge for any extra box (dvr or nondvr)

2) I'm pretty sure you have to pay for the 'DVR service' on each box - so 1 dvr service is paid for in the hdextra combo package, the other in the basic 9.95 fee.

That's what I thought as well. Supposedly my next bill is $10 higher then what I was paying in the past (had 2 DVR's, one SD and one HD) with the $10 coming from a DVR service. Let's see what happens on Friday when they call me back.

you're being billed for DVR service on 3 boxes.
1) under hdextra combo
2) dvr serice
3)additional dvr service

Can someone with 2 HD-DVR's confirm their equipment fees.

Here is what I have:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/MacAlert/TWCBill_Page_1.jpg

On top of that, they are charging me a prorated fee of DVR service which I do not understand.

I am a current RCN subscriber who just had all (except broadcast networks) clear QAM programming wiped out due to an "upgrade". I am considering a switch to TWC.

Is there anyone here who could let me know what TWC offers up in clear QAM? I am especially interested in TWC Queens although info for Brooklyn and Manhattan are also appreciated.

Thanks.

i get both (at a discount) because i am the super of a building. as you know rcn has locals and music choice in clear qam. twc has more locals but no music choice in clear qam. overall time warner has better service since theyre customer support is located here not overseas like rcn.

you're being billed for DVR service on 3 boxes.
1) under hdextra combo
2) dvr serice
3)additional dvr service

On this bill, the two charges at the bottom are box rentals.

I just bought a second HDTV to replace an old CRT. I don't need a DVR, so can anyone suggest the best HD STB to try for? I currently have a Pioneer Voyager 3510. It's a great box, but was discontinued. What are the "good" HD STBs to look for these days (from TWC of course). Thanks...

I just bought a second HDTV to replace an old CRT. I don't need a DVR, so can anyone suggest the best HD STB to try for? I currently have a Pioneer Voyager 3510. It's a great box, but was discontinued. What are the "good" HD STBs to look for these days (from TWC of course). Thanks...

Besides the DVR, the best regular HD Box is the SA 4250. it is better than the samsung.

Okay I just called TWC here in NY and the rep said that my Passport Echo is an old box, and that I should go to 23rd street and exchange it for an ODN box. Does anyone here have that, is it an improvement?

Also I hope someone can answer this - will I need a new DVD recorder with these HD boxes and the new signals? Neither of my older dvd recorders seem to work now - I hate to spend any more money but am wondering if I should get one with a QAM tuner? thanks.

Okay I just called TWC here in NY and the rep said that my Passport Echo is an old box, and that I should go to 23rd street and exchange it for an ODN box. Does anyone here have that, is it an improvement?

Also I hope someone can answer this - will I need a new DVD recorder with these HD boxes and the new signals? Neither of my older dvd recorders seem to work now - I hate to spend any more money but am wondering if I should get one with a QAM tuner? thanks.

here we go again lol, plenty of posts to base your decision on just look through the last few pages

From Jay Leno's "Tonight Show" monologue (3/10/09):

'And Monopoly is 76 years old this week. Monopoly. It was a game invented by Parker Brothers but of course perfected by Time Warner Cable' (dead silence, no laughs). :D

here we go again lol, plenty of posts to base your decision on just look through the last few pages:eek::D

Okay I just called TWC here in NY and the rep said that my Passport Echo is an old box, and that I should go to 23rd street and exchange it for an ODN box. Does anyone here have that, is it an improvement?

Also I hope someone can answer this - will I need a new DVD recorder with these HD boxes and the new signals? Neither of my older dvd recorders seem to work now - I hate to spend any more money but am wondering if I should get one with a QAM tuner? thanks.

To summarize for you:
The majority opinion is that you should hold onto your Passport Echo box until they pry it from your cold dead hands....unless you want to use HD Video On Demand or use TWC's phone service and want to see caller-ID on your TV.

There is a small minority who will strongly disagree, but the clear majority weighs in that you should not exchange your box.

Did anyone notice they are raising the rates? I just got a letter noting an increase for the DTValue package to $67.50, + Home Phone to $108.90, +High Speed Internet to $111.95, and the Triple Play to $140.95.

I have an issue with the Price Lock Guarantee, as I refuse to commit myself to their service for two years. They just raised us a few months ago, and now again because "as the value of our cable service increases through product and system enhancements, our operation costs are increasing as well."

I thought competition would keep rates stable and encourage better service. I guess I was wrong.

can anyone confirm that there are 8300hdc boxes with the record prioroty option? neither of mine have it, and i cant stand it. mystro is the worst thing ever and it just goes to show you what a crappy company twc is. i hate them, but in manhattan they have a monopoly. such bs. sorry for the rant.

can anyone confirm that there are 8300hdc boxes with the record prioroty option? neither of mine have it, and i cant stand it. mystro is the worst thing ever and it just goes to show you what a crappy company twc is. i hate them, but in manhattan they have a monopoly. such bs. sorry for the rant.

Record series priority is confirmed in the 3.1.0_11 software version for 8300HDC units. This version has not been deployed yet to the NYC area. At the moment I'm okay with that, as I have an external hard drive connected with version 2.4.10_11 running on the 8300HDC. I have heard several reports of people going to 3.1.0_11 in their area and losing the ability to record to an external hard drive. Only one person on this board so far has no issues with 3.1.0_11 and their external drive. No one has figured out exactly why that is.

Did anyone notice they are raising the rates? I just got a letter noting an increase for the DTValue package to $67.50, + Home Phone to $108.90, +High Speed Internet to $111.95, and the Triple Play to $140.95.

I have an issue with the Price Lock Guarantee, as I refuse to commit myself to their service for two years. They just raised us a few months ago, and now again because "as the value of our cable service increases through product and system enhancements, our operation costs are increasing as well."

I thought competition would keep rates stable and encourage better service. I guess I was wrong.

Actually, we got hit with 2 rate increases last year, January and Sep't. I think. Not only that, but pretty much everywhere in the city EXCEPT Manhattan got the price lock availability before those 2 increases. THOSE folks who did go for the guarentee are now about to avoid a third increase.

I think this one is to cover all the subs they are losing to FIOS... where it is available.

My box was seemingly not able to actually schedule series recordings, so I did a cold boot. When it came back up, that issue was solved but I got hit with the gray sidebars on SD channels. I see some mention their disappointment with those so I thought I'd reiterate my "solution."

Now I'm not 100% sue this will work for everyone, but I suspect it should for most. Obviously it's totally ONLY applicable to the hardware/software I have in my STB and it MAY be dependent on my TV. BUT nothing is permanently affected by trying it, so here goes.

Tune to a SD channel. Go into the STBs settings and look at 2 items under More Settings, Aspect Ratio and Output Formats. Enable all resolutions in Output Formats AND set Aspect Ratio to 4:3. On the TV's controls, set it to 4:3. At this point, you should see black sidebars. Switch to a HD channel and you SHOULD see it in proper 16:9. That's it!

Now I know some say to set output to 1080i to speed up channel changes. Do that with my "scheme" and one's back to gray sidebars. I KNOW some TVs are very quick at resolution changes (mine is) while some are a lot slower (Sony). It's up to you which is the more annoying to have... if you have a Sammy, you should be 100% good to go.

The funny thing is that I've been using this "trick" for 2+ years and have never seen the gray sidebars until this last reboot. Fortunately, once I remembered the steps, I'm now back to being happy I got my black sidebars back.

FIOS cuts both ways on pricing. Call up TWC and threaten to move to FIOS, and they'll very likely give you a discount. Whether FIOS is actually available to you or not is immaterial.

FIOS cuts both ways on pricing. Call up TWC and threaten to move to FIOS, and they'll very likely give you a discount. Whether FIOS is actually available to you or not is immaterial.

Yes, I understand. But I really feel they should compete, not force me to threaten to get a reduction. Oh, well...

Did anyone notice they are raising the rates? I just got a letter noting an increase for the DTValue package to $67.50, + Home Phone to $108.90, +High Speed Internet to $111.95, and the Triple Play to $140.95.

I have an issue with the Price Lock Guarantee, as I refuse to commit myself to their service for two years. They just raised us a few months ago, and now again because "as the value of our cable service increases through product and system enhancements, our operation costs are increasing as well."

I thought competition would keep rates stable and encourage better service. I guess I was wrong.

i just saw it on twc's website. the increase takes effect april 1. too bad it's not an april fools joke. :(

Well, I got my billing issue resolved. Looks like the geniuses at TWC screwed up my billing. It took a lot persuading to get this fixed since I am not the account holder (in my parents name).

FIOS cuts both ways on pricing. Call up TWC and threaten to move to FIOS, and they'll very likely give you a discount. Whether FIOS is actually available to you or not is immaterial.

FIOS is coming to my building....yippee!!!!

My box was seemingly not able to actually schedule series recordings, so I did a cold boot. When it came back up, that issue was solved but I got hit with the gray sidebars on SD channels. I see some mention their disappointment with those so I thought I'd reiterate my "solution."

Now I'm not 100% sue this will work for everyone, but I suspect it should for most. Obviously it's totally ONLY applicable to the hardware/software I have in my STB and it MAY be dependent on my TV. BUT nothing is permanently affected by trying it, so here goes.

Tune to a SD channel. Go into the STBs settings and look at 2 items under More Settings, Aspect Ratio and Output Formats. Enable all resolutions in Output Formats AND set Aspect Ratio to 4:3. On the TV's controls, set it to 4:3. At this point, you should see black sidebars. Switch to a HD channel and you SHOULD see it in proper 16:9. That's it!

Now I know some say to set output to 1080i to speed up channel changes. Do that with my "scheme" and one's back to gray sidebars. I KNOW some TVs are very quick at resolution changes (mine is) while some are a lot slower (Sony). It's up to you which is the more annoying to have... if you have a Sammy, you should be 100% good to go.

The funny thing is that I've been using this "trick" for 2+ years and have never seen the gray sidebars until this last reboot. Fortunately, once I remembered the steps, I'm now back to being happy I got my black sidebars back.

The Mighty Passport had an error? :eek: