after this new update my dolby digital setting option on the cable box menu wont stay. I am using hdmi to tv for video and optical to receiver for audio. Before this update I had the audio option set to Dolby Digital and would get 5.1 just fine. When I would turn the tv and cable box off when I am not watching and then turn it back on when i want to watch again, everything stays,

Now when I set it to dolby digital, I get 5.1 but when I turn off the tv and turn it back on, it defaults to hdmi. It never did this before the update, would always stay on Dolby Digital setting. I have been using hdmi cable since the beginning.

anyone else having this problem.



anyone else having this problem besides kold kuts and myself

Another problem does anyone have the NBA League Pass , on Team 10 (channel 410) its says to call to order that channel, TWC messing up again..all the other team channels work, does anyone have the same problem..

Yes and no... what I notice is certain shots (usually close ups that look like they were shot hand-held on stage) are very grainy and almost monochromatic. These kinds of shots usually are very brief because there is a LOPT of movement in them. To me, it seems very much a function of what camera they are using...
I think one of two things are going on: either the source material is overcomressed to begin with, or 10-14 Mb/s just isn't enough for what they show. In 18-19 Mb/s, most HD video can be shown with almost no perceptible artifacting. That was true even with the ancient compressors of the late 90s.;

After a long and very welcomed absence, pixilation and compression artifacts are back. Particularly apparent on the movie channels last night.

Anyone else noticing this?


A_C (East Midtown)

I did notice it when I was watching the College games on CBSHD last night . I think all the channels are being over compressed. That is why I never was a fan of the 3/1 HD channel scam. HD Channels will suffer eventually.

I think one of two things are going on: either the source material is overcomressed to begin with, or 10-14 Mb/s just isn't enough for what they show. In 18-19 Mb/s, most HD video can be shown with almost not perceptible artifacting. That was true even with the ancient compressors of the late 90s.;

I think they should give all the channels the 2/1 treatment after all they droped a lot of analog channels, or transfer all the channels via mpg4 like directv does.

I think they should give all the channels the 2/1 treatment after all they droped a lot of analog channels, or transfer all the channels via mpg4 like directv does.

Existing equipment in the field and other bandwidth demands might make this difficult. But I agree that it would be the desired result. Maybe they'll go to 2:1 once they kill all of the analog in a few years, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Honestly, some channels look fairly good at 3:1. But just wait until most channels actually start showing mostly HD content, and not just upconverts.

I did notice it when I was watching the College games on CBSHD last night . I think all the channels are being over compressed. That is why I never was a fan of the 3/1 HD channel scam. HD Channels will suffer eventually.

cbs is 2:1 on our system - always has been.

Existing equipment in the field and other bandwidth demands might make this difficult. But I agree that it would be the desired result. Maybe they'll go to 2:1 once they kill all of the analog in a few years, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Honestly, some channels look fairly good at 3:1. But just wait until most channels actually start showing mostly HD content, and not just upconverts.

News channels like foxnews, cnn looks good in 3/1, channels like paladia,discovery, espn and the others need to be in a 2/1 QAM. They can't kill the rest of the local analogs until 2012 because of the FCC mandate. I think that will be a little late for TWC because FIOS would have been available for more than half of the city by that time.

cbs is 2:1 on our system - always has been.

I didn't mean to say that CBS is compressed, what I meant was that for some reason there was some artificial blur on CBS last night, maybe it was the signal from CBS to TWC. I don't have a problem with the locals because they look good all the time.

My recording was exactly the same but I didn't mention it because I figured it was some glitch unique to my box. Guess not. I watched the episode and you pick up what's going on easily. I watched the missed minutes online on the Fox streaming site.

I had the same problem and used the same solution....

Sunday night, once again NO FOX HD :-(

705, on Nassau boarder, anyone else having problems?

This has happened before on other channels...last night's recording of Mad Men on AMCHD did not record. It had a 12am start time and in my recorded programs it shows 11:59 - 11:59. Did TWC push out some sort of update at midnight? I'm in Brooklyn with a 8300HD. The really crap part is is that AMC isn't showing each episode more than once so it's gone forever...Thanks TWC!

After a long and very welcomed absence, pixilation and compression artifacts are back. Particularly apparent on the movie channels last night.

Anyone else noticing this?


A_C (East Midtown)


Unfortunately, yes. Just about every channel I watched last night had audio dropouts.

This has happened before on other channels...last night's recording of Mad Men on AMCHD did not record. It had a 12am start time and in my recorded programs it shows 11:59 - 11:59. Did TWC push out some sort of update at midnight? I'm in Brooklyn with a 8300HD. The really crap part is is that AMC isn't showing each episode more than once so it's gone forever...Thanks TWC!

I haven't had AMC or IFC for about 2 wks - make sure you're getting those channels because if you aren't that's why it didn't record.

I keep calling TWC and they say there isn't any problem with those channels and I need the new box to get them now... BS!!!!

I'm fairly certain that part of the solution to getting the problem fixed was documenting each and every user's posts here at avsforum who had the issue on the 8300HD. I laid it all out in an email to them --citing each user's location and their comments to show that this was not my individual problem, but rather was a systemic problem across the city with many users who had the 8300HD.

This, after they had emailed me after my first complaint saying they had no issues with audio on channel 705. I followed up with the email noted above on my open trouble ticket.

So, this forum proves it worthiness yet again. It was people here who made the very important connection that this dropout issue was limited to the 8300HD and not the 8300HDC. I'm sure TW would never have figured that out were they not tipped off about it. It gave them a lot to work with.

Kudos to all who helped get this fixed by posting here, assuming that this is finally resolved. I watched 705 for about a half hour yesterday and had no dropouts on my 8300HD. Crossing my fingers that this will continue.

My HDC does indeed have audio dropouts and still has them it is not limited to the 8300HD. Maybe it is worse on the HD but I get them as well on HDC

This has happened before on other channels...last night's recording of Mad Men on AMCHD did not record. It had a 12am start time and in my recorded programs it shows 11:59 - 11:59. Did TWC push out some sort of update at midnight? I'm in Brooklyn with a 8300HD. The really crap part is is that AMC isn't showing each episode more than once so it's gone forever...Thanks TWC!

Uh, I think what you are seeing is the season 2 encore... as in rebroadcasts. Most cable series seem to have multiple broadcasts of original shows, so conflicts with too many network shows at the same time period can easily be dealt with. However, sometimes you get only one run through; however, they can run marathons and frequently will re-run it as a way of promoting the next season.

Are we losing HDNET come Wednesday?
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Lots of ROH Fans Could Lose ROH TV
Posted by Larry Csonka on 03.30.2009

Well this isn’t good.

Many Time-Warner Cable
affiliates, including those in New York, will be losing HDNet. The following was posted on the Time-Warner in New York City website:

On or about March 31, 2009, in the event we are required to cease carriage of HD Net, ch. 798 and HD Net Movies, ch. 797, we plan to launch Smithsonian HD and MAV TV HD in their respective places.



I checked in with Time-Warner Cable in the Charlotte/Clover area, and was told that they have no plans to drop the channel at this time, and that it could be a regional contract issue. Regardless, losing the New York market is not a good thing, considering the small subscriber numbers of HDNet, which have been estimated to be around 12-14 million total.

I watch HDNet moreso than most other channels so this would piss me off greatly.

Are we losing HDNET come Wednesday?
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I watch HDNet moreso than most other channels so this would piss me off greatly.

the thread is very aware - been discussed somewhere in the last few pages....

Here's something interesting on the <tru2way> DVR front:

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0485990.htm

After a long and very welcomed absence, pixilation and compression artifacts are back. Particularly apparent on the movie channels last night.

Anyone else noticing this?


A_C (East Midtown)
I have noticed pixelation and some "hanging" but not really any black dropouts. Major pixelation while watching March Madness on CBS-HD. It looks as if the signal is overly compressed, or something like that. I resorted to using the calibration settings on the TV to reduce the sharpness to close to the lowest setting.

Uh, I think what you are seeing is the season 2 encore... as in rebroadcasts. Most cable series seem to have multiple broadcasts of original shows, so conflicts with too many network shows at the same time period can easily be dealt with. However, sometimes you get only one run through; however, they can run marathons and frequently will re-run it as a way of promoting the next season.

Yes I'm aware that this is the encore of season 2 and they're only showing each epi once. Plus they don't have epi's on their website so it's gone forever. Im left with reading the recap before next Sunday's showing. I'm not real pleased with TWC at the moment.

I'm fairly certain that part of the solution to getting the problem fixed was documenting each and every user's posts here at avsforum who had the issue on the 8300HD. I laid it all out in an email to them --citing each user's location and their comments to show that this was not my individual problem, but rather was a systemic problem across the city with many users who had the 8300HD.

This, after they had emailed me after my first complaint saying they had no issues with audio on channel 705. I followed up with the email noted above on my open trouble ticket.

So, this forum proves it worthiness yet again. It was people here who made the very important connection that this dropout issue was limited to the 8300HD and not the 8300HDC. I'm sure TW would never have figured that out were they not tipped off about it. It gave them a lot to work with.

Kudos to all who helped get this fixed by posting here, assuming that this is finally resolved. I watched 705 for about a half hour yesterday and had no dropouts on my 8300HD. Crossing my fingers that this will continue.

thanks for taking the time to do this, I am sure it helped. i had no problems with my 705 recordings on Friday night on the 8300HD.

the thread is very aware - been discussed somewhere in the last few pages....
You guys know more about what's going on moreso than the the guys signing the checks or the techs on the poles or the nitwits around the globe on csr duty.
I had checked the last 2 pages didn't notice the mention so I added it, sad to see no ones upset that HDnet might drop as the days come closer, I'm gonna miss K-1 and MMA if this isn't some holdout bargaining tool.

You guys know more about what's going on moreso than the the guys signing the checks or the techs on the poles or the nitwits around the globe on csr duty.
I had checked the last 2 pages didn't notice the mention so I added it, sad to see no ones upset that HDnet might drop as the days come closer, I'm gonna miss K-1 and MMA if this isn't some holdout bargaining tool.

people are upset.... it's just not guaranteed to happen... and if it does its only temporary.

Have four boxes. Only one 8300HD and it's rebooted itself all night. No amount of unplugging and letting it sit will restart the thing correctly. It either reboots right away, or it waits to load up entirely, then reboots 30-60 seconds after restart. I'm going to have tons of one-minute recorded programs to delete.

After a long and very welcomed absence, pixilation and compression artifacts are back. Particularly apparent on the movie channels last night.

Anyone else noticing this?


A_C (East Midtown)

Yes, I share your impression. I am getting skips and freezes on channels and programs that have never experienced any problems with before. This includes the Travel Channel HD, ABC Family HD and Disney HD. Also, the picture quality just seems less sharp than it was two, three weeks ago.

This has happened before on other channels...last night's recording of Mad Men on AMCHD did not record. It had a 12am start time and in my recorded programs it shows 11:59 - 11:59. Did TWC push out some sort of update at midnight? I'm in Brooklyn with a 8300HD. The really crap part is is that AMC isn't showing each episode more than once so it's gone forever...Thanks TWC!

Not that this is any consolation to you but Mad Men on AMC HD recorded properly for me in Manhattan. My box did freeze earlier in the day which required a reboot but it was fine by the evening. I think you just got unlucky.

thanks for taking the time to do this, I am sure it helped. i had no problems with my 705 recordings on Friday night on the 8300HD.

Did House & 24 last night... both played smoothly (in TWC land that means only one or two small glitches per hour).

Did House & 24 last night... both played smoothly (in TWC land that means only one or two small glitches per hour).

And FOX5's morning news programs sounded FINE on 705 this morning, with no audio glitches or drops...first time in a LONG time, it seems. :)

I woke up to ODN 3 this morning in S. Manhattan but really had little time to mess with it. I did notice box volume control does not seem to work. Did they get rid of that? I also noticed my signal was way better but that may be unrelated, I did see a TWC cable truck outside the building for the last couple of days

I woke up to ODN 3 this morning in S. Manhattan but really had little time to mess with it. I did notice box volume control does not seem to work. Did they get rid of that? I also noticed my signal was way better but that may be unrelated, I did see a TWC cable truck outside the building for the last couple of days

I also got the update last night :cool:It started about 1 A.M. it went on for about 1/2 hour.First i got firmware update, on the T.V. screen.it went up to 100 %.Next all numbers on the box.The last thing it booted. Every thing works.The new version is 3.1.0.11. Did any one get this??

did they fix the dolby digital shut off problem yet when using hdmi. This started happening after the most recent upgrade a few days ago. Was perfectly fine before the update

I.E. (Posted this last week)

TWC NYC digital audio question

after this new update that we had in nyc for time warner my dolby digital setting option on the cable box menu wont stay. I am using hdmi to tv for video and optical to receiver for audio. Before this update I had the audio option set to Dolby Digital and would get 5.1 just fine. When I would turn the tv and cable box off when I am not watching and then turn it back on when i want to watch again, everything stays,

Now when I set it to dolby digital, I get 5.1 but when I turn off the tv and turn it back on, it defaults to hdmi. It never did this before the update, would always stay on Dolby Digital setting. I have been using hdmi cable since the beginning.

anyone else having this problem.

I also got the update last night :cool:It started about 1 A.M. it went on for about 1/2 hour.First i got firmware update, on the T.V. screen.it went up to 100 %.Next all numbers on the box.The last thing it booted. Every thing works.The new version is 3.1.0.11. Did any one get this??

S. Manhattan - got the update overnight. Killed my external HD. Ugh...
I can see my previous recordings on the list, but can't play them. I wish these firmware "upgrades" were like Windows Updates where you can choose to delay installation until the right time. I'd rather have 2.x with working eSata support over series priority and new color scheme right now.

S. Manhattan - got the update overnight. Killed my external HD. Ugh...
I can see my previous recordings on the list, but can't play them. I wish these firmware "upgrades" were like Windows Updates where you can choose to delay installation until the right time. I'd rather have 2.x with working eSata support over series priority and new color scheme right now.

I thought someone mentioned they had no issues with ODN3. Did you try unplugging and replugging it in? Maybe if you format it with your PC, the 8300 will format it again?

S. Manhattan - got the update overnight. Killed my external HD. Ugh...
I can see my previous recordings on the list, but can't play them. I wish these firmware "upgrades" were like Windows Updates where you can choose to delay installation until the right time. I'd rather have 2.x with working eSata support over series priority and new color scheme right now.

I can play all my recordings :cool: I dont have esata:) The new color scheme looks good.:D

I can play all my recordings :cool: I dont have esata:) The new color scheme looks good.:D

I agree all good, just checked everything out but my signal sucks again. I like the new color scheme as well, easier on the eye's but that is what you guys expected me to say :) For the audio bar if you set audio to something besides HDMI and set the volume to variable the box volume is there. It was halfway so I raised it to full and switched back to HDMI which automatically locks volume to fixed, can't tell if it did anything but HDC owners may want to raise it to full. Actually as am I writing this the box just rebooted and it is showing all these numbers and is counting down from like 700. Another update? Finished ODN is at 3.1.0_11 which i think is the same as just a few minutes ago but the signal is back to good.

Ugh updating again anyone else getting this? Gave TWC a call and he tells me this is "normal" so that was a waste why are they so clueless?

Ugh updating again anyone else getting this? Gave TWC a call and he tells me this is "normal" so that was a waste why are they so clueless?

yeah, i notice it happened to one of my boxes twice.

One mystery solved, for me at least. While the unt was recording a program, I decided to check the desk top diagnostics by tuning to 996. This caused my recording to just stop. Don't know if this has been discussed before, but it was a revelation to me.

My wife is watching American Idol 705 right now on our 8300HDC - it is being recorded via season recording. The DVR has stopped recording the show three times. She did not change channels. Just random.

So which genius at TWC decided that 10.45pm was a good time to send a firmware (cable card I think?) update to my DVR? Both American Idol and Law & Order recordings from this evening are now useless. I'm going to be hopping mad if the same thing happens during Lost tomorrow night!

Does anybody know what the status of HDNet/HDNet Movies is? Is it going to shut off at midnight?

Does anybody know what the status of HDNet/HDNet Movies is? Is it going to shut off at midnight?

message no longer on twc website - so it looks like we're ok

I wonder if/when they will add those other 2 channels.... the more the better...

I thought someone mentioned they had no issues with ODN3. Did you try unplugging and replugging it in? Maybe if you format it with your PC, the 8300 will format it again?

Nope. The others who thought ODN3 played nice with external drives have encountered problems now. Some guy posted a workaround which isn't very appealing. I may have to disconnect the drive until they hopefully get this fixed again. I may need to format it to get it to work later, but the point is that it looks like I can't read any of the recorded programs on it pre-update. I was saving up some episodes of 24 to watch later with a friend and now that's not accessible.

S. Manhattan - got the update overnight. Killed my external HD. Ugh...
I can see my previous recordings on the list, but can't play them. I wish these firmware "upgrades" were like Windows Updates where you can choose to delay installation until the right time. I'd rather have 2.x with working eSata support over series priority and new color scheme right now.

FWIW, I have read a LOT of complaints about broken external drive support... the bad news is that is true for more than one 3.x ODN release.

message no longer on twc website - so it looks like we're ok

I wonder if/when they will add those other 2 channels.... the more the better...

This morning, they ARE still there.

Haven't you noticed that a lot of those messages gets posted, then 2 days later they get removed?

Did a very quick scan to see if Smithsonian was there, but I didn't see it. Indeed, if they can they should... but then again, this is TWC.

BTW, I don't see much chatter on this, but I think it's now official, TWC is it's own company. THEORETICALLY that SHOULD mean they need to be far more competitive now they don't have a very rich structure above them on the corporate food chain.

So much for samsung...

http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Content/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=11005&NewsAreaID=2

I want that yesterday!

So much for samsung...

http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Content/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=11005&NewsAreaID=2

how can you tell if you have ODN running. What is the easiest way to see.

how can you tell if you have ODN running. What is the easiest way to see.

Go to channel 996, the version is on one of the pages. If the colors in the guide are different you got it. This is HDC only so if you have an HD it is still passport.

TWC expanding internet usage pricing

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2009/tc20090331_726397.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_news+%2B+analysis

Okay I have been hit w/ the April Fool's JOKE, now let me go back to the way it was.

I got a Fanthom's Drive 1TB external last summer. Worked great, plug and play with tons of space for all the HD content. Now nothing can be accessed! It said 56% full but could not play anything nor record or pause live TV.

Obviously there was a "mandatory" software update. Perhap TWC got tired of everyone getting these DVR extender?! My list say 0%! After numerous hard and soft reboots, I finally unplugged my FD drive, Well all of the original shows recorded on the TWC box from last summer pre-eSata plays and now I can record shows using the plain old 20 hour box.

So are you telling me I can't watch my 24 or the SuperBowl I had taped and saved to watch over and over again is forever gone? Please help if anyone know if the FD drive can be used, saved, or needs to be sold and another dvr extender purchased? THANKS!

yeah, i notice it happened to one of my boxes twice.

Is it still happenig on your HDC? mine is doing it yet again. Looks like it waited for me to get home last boot time was yesterday prior to this. Now it is updating cablecard firmware, it didn't do that the other times maybe that is why it kept trying. Must be my crappy signal

TWC expanding internet usage pricing

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2009/tc20090331_726397.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_news+%2B+analysis

From how the article states, NYC is not affected. But I would expect it come to the city some time down the road.

From how the article states, NYC is not affected. But I would expect it come to the city some time down the road.

Hopefully, FIOS will be available then. Or maybe it's back to DSL...

These caps are ridiculous. I do monitor web traffic on occasions and if you leave some web sites open throughout the day it could easily generate traffic of a few hundred megabytes.

I can understand if they would charge "$1 for each gigabyte (GB)" and you pay $5 for the lowest cap, but that would most likely cost $29.99.

It's a bad idea anyway you look at it.

Hopefully, FIOS will be available then. Or maybe it's back to DSL...

These caps are ridiculous. I do monitor web traffic on occasions and if you leave some web sites open throughout the day it could easily generate traffic of a few hundred megabytes.

I can understand if they would charge "$1 for each gigabyte (GB)" and you pay $5 for the lowest cap, but that would most likely cost $29.99.

It's a bad idea anyway you look at it.
I should be getting FIOS by August. I can finally dump this crap of a companies service.

Is it still happenig on your HDC? mine is doing it yet again. Looks like it waited for me to get home last boot time was yesterday prior to this. Now it is updating cablecard firmware, it didn't do that the other times maybe that is why it kept trying. Must be my crappy signal

nope, the one box got the "update" twice only.

I got the explorer 8300HDC and with that came Time Warner Mystro. Before my my explorer 8300HD, had passport. It was able to save an hour worth of program, that I could rewind & fast forward that channel without having to record anything. I could watch something from my list stop it, and return to the channel I was watching, and was able to rewind that channel. It was able to Pause live tv for up to an hour . Now with mystro once I swap channel via pip or watch something from my listing of recording, and stop it to go back to watch whatever channel I was watching that channel starts live, and can't be rewind, because it didn't store live tv for up to an hour. Is this how it's gonna be, or is my box damaged? I hope I worded this right, and people know what I'm talking about.

I got the explorer 8300HDC and with that came Time Warner Mystro. Before my my explorer 8300HD, had passport. It was able to save an hour worth of program, that I could rewind & fast forward that channel without having to record anything. I could watch something from my list stop it, and return to the channel I was watching, and was able to rewind that channel. It was able to Pause live tv for up to an hour . Now with mystro once I swap channel via pip or watch something from my listing of recording, and stop it to go back to watch whatever channel I was watching that channel starts live, and can't be rewind, because it didn't store live tv for up to an hour. Is this how it's gonna be, or is my box damaged? I hope I worded this right, and people know what I'm talking about.

This is called the buffer. And the 8300HDC, according to reports, does not allow you to flip between buffers and rewind as you could on the 8300HD.

Damn, that sucks. So is it the box, and not the software? If so you think I could bring the 8300HDC back, and get them to give me a 8300HD? I really don't like this 8300HDC with mystro.

Damn, that sucks. So is it the box, and not the software? If so you think I could bring the 8300HDC back, and get them to give me a 8300HD? I really don't like this 8300HDC with mystro.

Nope -- it's the software. Navigator/"Mystro" does not support spooling the 2nd channel on the "back" tuner.

Take the HDC back and ask for an 8300HD. They often have them there at 23rd St.

Damn, is the general consensus of mystro is that it suck? I hope so, and that the complaints are so loud that Time Warner will have no choice, but to fix it. I think it terrible. The start over feature is horrible also, because you can't rewind or fast forward. Everything takes forever. It's so slow. Does the 8300hdc at least have more storage space than the 8300hd did? sorry for all the questions, I'm just so annoyed with this thing right now. :lol

FX On Demand coming soon

http://www.multichannel.com/article/191083-Fox_Fuel_Rev_Up_On_Demand_Lineups.php

FX On Demand coming soon

http://www.multichannel.com/article/191083-Fox_Fuel_Rev_Up_On_Demand_Lineups.php

We already have it.
Just added last week

ch 1009 - Primetime onDemand -- and HD on ch 699 OnDemand Showcase

So are you telling me I can't watch my 24 or the SuperBowl I had taped and saved to watch over and over again is forever gone? Please help if anyone know if the FD drive can be used, saved, or needs to be sold and another dvr extender purchased? THANKS!

It's "funny" that I see half the people on these boards cheering that they finally got ODN 3.x while the other half is cursing getting ODN 3.x, the latter being people that had an external drive hooked up. I lost 8 unwatched episodes of 24 this week when we got the oh-so-great update.

Anyways, I ended up disconnecting my drive, rebooting, seeing the show list contain only the shows that had recorded to the internal drive, unplugging the DVR, reconnected the drive, plugged the DVR back in, and got to a state where it seems like the DVR sees the external drive, but thinks it is empty. I added a series recording for ESPN-News set to keep only one episode, so the DVR is perpetually recording that channel to get around the sleep mode bug that seems to be back. Since 3.x has series priority, I threw this to the lowest priority so if I ever have two real shows I want recorded simultaneously the DVR will prioritize correctly.

The other bug that 3.x has which affects me is the audio setting reverting back to HDMI audio instead of staying with dolby digital (I use the coax out to connect to my audio receiver). I thought perhaps by leaving the DVR on all the time the setting would stick, but it turns out that it's the HDMI connection to the TV that flips this setting. TV off, setting is still the same. TV back on, the DVR reinitiates the HDMI handshake, and then the DVR audio setting changes back to HDMI. A bit annoying.

Damn, is the general consensus of mystro is that it suck? I hope so, and that the complaints are so loud that Time Warner will have no choice, but to fix it. I think it terrible. The start over feature is horrible also, because you can't rewind or fast forward. Everything takes forever. It's so slow. Does the 8300hdc at least have more storage space than the 8300hd did? sorry for all the questions, I'm just so annoyed with this thing right now. :lol

Just replace it for an 8300HD. You asked and someone already responded that yes, you can go to the Time Warner service center and get an 8300HD.

We already have it.
Just added last week

ch 1009 - Primetime onDemand -- and HD on ch 699 OnDemand Showcase

So FX OnDemand HD shares space with other stuff? Ah, now I see...on the SD side it shares the channel with NBC, CBS and has pretty much no content (3 movies and 3 epi9sodes of Damages, that's it for FX ODDO)

As for 699, we know it's not available to 83200HD/Passport users... is it because it's a SDV channel?

So FX OnDemand HD shares space with other stuff? Ah, now I see...on the SD side it shares the channel with NBC, CBS and has pretty much no content (3 movies and 3 epi9sodes of Damages, that's it for FX ODDO)

As for 699, we know it's not available to 83200HD/Passport users... is it because it's a SDV channel?

I highly doubt it is SDV, in the HDC diagnostics it shows the SDV state and it is always not intialized

So FX OnDemand HD shares space with other stuff? Ah, now I see...on the SD side it shares the channel with NBC, CBS and has pretty much no content (3 movies and 3 epi9sodes of Damages, that's it for FX ODDO)

As for 699, we know it's not available to 83200HD/Passport users... is it because it's a SDV channel?

"share space"??
It's just a menu.

All of the SD OnDemand content is sent to us in the same bandwidth range (if you've ever look at my spreadsheet....)
Not sure what frequencies are used for HD OnDemand... but I'm sure its 'shared' between ch 699 and 700 (once again... they're just menus)

And from what I can tell, they chose to just not make it available to the non-HDC boxes.. its just a "minor" software thing (unless the non-HDC boxes/software really cant handle HD onDemand for some reason.....)

Also, OnDemand is technically a form of SDV if you just think about how it works....

did they fix the dolby digital shut off problem yet when using hdmi. This started happening after the most recent upgrade a few days ago. Was perfectly fine before the update

I.E. (Posted this last week)

TWC NYC digital audio question

after this new update that we had in nyc for time warner my dolby digital setting option on the cable box menu wont stay. I am using hdmi to tv for video and optical to receiver for audio. Before this update I had the audio option set to Dolby Digital and would get 5.1 just fine. When I would turn the tv and cable box off when I am not watching and then turn it back on when i want to watch again, everything stays,

Now when I set it to dolby digital, I get 5.1 but when I turn off the tv and turn it back on, it defaults to hdmi. It never did this before the update, would always stay on Dolby Digital setting. I have been using hdmi cable since the beginning.

anyone else having this problem.

Same problem here in North Carolina. They are sending a tech out Saturday to fix it. Yeah, right. I'll keep you posted.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

posq, please keep me posted. I hate having to switch it to dolby digital each time I turn on the cable box

Just caught a post in another forum that someone in NC has received a Samsung 3090 DVR... so I guess us being first is in the crapper.

The only info passed on is that it did come with a 320G drive and it had some very odd version of ODN, not the 2.x or 3.x series, but something like "1197."

Damn, is the general consensus of mystro is that it suck? I hope so, and that the complaints are so loud that Time Warner will have no choice, but to fix it. I think it terrible. The start over feature is horrible also, because you can't rewind or fast forward. Everything takes forever. It's so slow. Does the 8300hdc at least have more storage space than the 8300hd did? sorry for all the questions, I'm just so annoyed with this thing right now. :lol

The complaints have been loud. And Time Warner *is* "fixing" it -- note all of the posts with the major updates in the last week. Of course whenever they "fix" something they seem to break a few other major things. ;)

yeah, this past update caused a bad problem now with dolby digital and hdmi. It doesnt stay anymore when your turn the cable box off, defaults back to hdmi each time. This never happened before the update, worked perfectly fine.

Is there an email address that we can contact TWC about this problem.

yeah, this past update caused a bad problem now with dolby digital and hdmi. It doesnt stay anymore when your turn the cable box off, defaults back to hdmi each time. This never happened before the update, worked perfectly fine.


This *might* have been intentional, however undesired by some of us. The flip doesn't just come from shutting the cable box off. It also reverts to HDMI audio if you leave the cable box on, but switch the TV off then on. It seems like any time the cable box and TV do an HDMI handshake, the audio setting switches to HDMI. Maybe this is to preempt customers from asking why they don't get any sound through their TV speakers if they hook up their TV via HDMI and don't have a separate audio receiver in their setup.

I wonder why they just don't pass the dolby digital audio through both the HDMI and other digital (coax/optical) ports.

everything worked perfectly fine right until this update. I was using hdmi (to tv) for video and optical (to receiver) for audio, set my cable box audio option to dolby digitial and got 5.1. When I would turn the box & tv on and off the dolby digital option would stay.

Now when I turn the tv and cable box on and off, the audio defaults to hdmi eventhough I switch it to dolby digital each time. When it would be set on dolby digital, I would get 5.1 just fine. just goes away when I shut everything off.

my tv doesnt have speakers, get sound via my receiver.


this sucks. I hope they fix it soon. Is there any work around besides switching to component cables which I wont do because my tv was professionally calibrated for hdmi inputs.

Just caught a post in another forum that someone in NC has received a Samsung 3090 DVR... so I guess us being first is in the crapper.

The only info passed on is that it did come with a 320G drive and it had some very odd version of ODN, not the 2.x or 3.x series, but something like "1197."

Who will be number two to get Samsung 3090 DVR ???:(

I just realized how crappy TWC HD looks. Sooooo compressed it's disgusting.

Most recent one

Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens and Mount Vernon

April 3rd, 2009

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their services and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following agreements are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services/stations in the near future:

Azteca America, BBC on Demand, Chinese Channel, Chinese Cinema, CV Network, E!, Fuel TV, Great American Country (GAC), Game Show Network, HD Net, HD Net Movies, HITN, Lifetime, NBA TV, ShopNBC, Style, Supercanal, The Arabic Channel, RTVi, RAI, NGTV, TV Japan, TV Polonia, WABC TV Plus, Weather Channel, and WPIX.

In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

The previously announced possible removal of HD Net, ch. 798 and HD Net Movies, ch. 797, on or about March 31, 2009 will not occur at this time. Accordingly, we will not be replacing these channels with Smithsonian HD and MAV TV HD. However, we are currently involved in discussions regarding Smithsonian HD. While we cannot guarantee that we will reach an agreement, we are listing Smithsonian HD, ch. 789 here in the event that we are able to start carrying them in the future. This service will be part of the HD Xtra tier.

The previously announced inclusion of the Disney Channel to the DTV en Espanol Basic package will now occur on April 1, 2009 in both standard and HD format. The Disney Channel will remain on channels 49 and 749, respectively in Manhattan and Brooklyn and Queens and on channels 37 and 737, respectively in Mount Vernon.

The previously scheduled launch of Telemundo HD on April 23, 2009, in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens on ch. 747 and in Mount Vernon on ch. 717 has been postponed until May 1, 2009.

I notice the Viacom channels are not listed as channels they may have to drop. Hope that means a deal has been made and those HD channels will show soon.

Most recent one



I notice the Viacom channels are not listed as channels they may have to drop. Hope that means a deal has been made and those HD channels will show soon.

Exactly what I was thinking. Seems like they have the space now. . .

[QUOTE=MacAlert;16191902]I just realized how crappy TWC HD looks. Sooooo compressed it's disgusting.[/Q
did you realize that just now? Its been that way for a long time with the exception of the locals. A couple of months ago the decided to leave HBOHD in the 2/1 QAM ,and the channel was looking stunning, then they switched back to the old way of 3/1 QAM, and we have the same old story.

Damn, is the general consensus of mystro is that it suck? I hope so, and that the complaints are so loud that Time Warner will have no choice, but to fix it. I think it terrible. The start over feature is horrible also, because you can't rewind or fast forward. Everything takes forever. It's so slow. Does the 8300hdc at least have more storage space than the 8300hd did? sorry for all the questions, I'm just so annoyed with this thing right now. :lol

There is a Samsung HD-DVR thats being tested. Some markets just got them in. The SMT-H3090 has home networking but thats disabled. It can use DLNA or TWC may have ordered the MoCA option. The SMT-H3090 does have a 320 GB HDD which is nice. That means you get 35 to 37.5 hours of HD if you factor in the buffering system. Should have 2x the SD space but it's listed at 90 hours. That probably factors the buffer and a bit rate thats much higher than TWC NYC's. Same guide as the 8300HDC but it's now stretched to 16:9. It does have better specs. Has 2x the CPU and 3x the RAM as the 8300HDC.

Does any one know if or when we in NYC will be able to get 3090??

There is a Samsung HD-DVR thats being tested. Some markets just got them in. The SMT-H3090 has home networking but thats disabled. It can use DLNA or TWC may have ordered the MoCA option. The SMT-H3090 does have a 320 GB HDD which is nice. That means you get 35 to 37.5 hours of HD if you factor in the buffering system. Should have 2x the SD space but it's listed at 90 hours. That probably factors the buffer and a bit rate thats much higher than TWC NYC's. Same guide as the 8300HDC but it's now stretched to 16:9. It does have better specs. Has 2x the CPU and 3x the RAM as the 8300HDC.

And based on one post I read from someone who has one, it has a different ODN version than what is commonly deployed. Most of what we hear about is 2.x and 3.x, but the 3090 has something like "1197" or thereabouts. In any case, it's the NC market that seems to be first area of deployment.

Well, I did read a post like that, BUT there's a guy who is continuing to keep folks in the Navigator thread informed... and he does have "SMT-H3090 ODN v3.1.0_1."

Does any one know if or when we in NYC will be able to get 3090??

The rumor has been this summer.

[QUOTE=MacAlert;16191902]I just realized how crappy TWC HD looks. Sooooo compressed it's disgusting.[/Q
did you realize that just now? Its been that way for a long time with the exception of the locals. A couple of months ago the decided to leave HBOHD in the 2/1 QAM ,and the channel was looking stunning, then they switched back to the old way of 3/1 QAM, and we have the same old story.

I've known but it looked really bad on my new 46" TV. Blacks looked horrible.

been having multiple issues recently. Audio/video dropouts and dvr issues. Anyone had good/bad experience with RCN? thinking about switching.

been having multiple issues recently. Audio/video dropouts and dvr issues. Anyone had good/bad experience with RCN? thinking about switching.
Didn't have RCN issues a few months back while getting both RCN/TWC (awaiting TWC's 100-channel bump.) But not having serious issues--some audio drops--with TWC at mid-town east Manhattan with a vintage 8300HD. PQ was similar between them. -- John

everything worked perfectly fine right until this update. I was using hdmi (to tv) for video and optical (to receiver) for audio, set my cable box audio option to dolby digitial and got 5.1. When I would turn the box & tv on and off the dolby digital option would stay.

Now when I turn the tv and cable box on and off, the audio defaults to hdmi eventhough I switch it to dolby digital each time. When it would be set on dolby digital, I would get 5.1 just fine. just goes away when I shut everything off.

my tv doesnt have speakers, get sound via my receiver.


this sucks. I hope they fix it soon. Is there any work around besides switching to component cables which I wont do because my tv was professionally calibrated for hdmi inputs.

The TWC just left my house without a solution other than using component cables. This pissed me off, so I did my rant and rave about how much I spend with TWC and how bad they suck, and even told him about how my computer thinks I'm in the UK because RoadRunner has a known routing problem which has persisted over two weeks.

He DID call me back a few minutes after he'd left and actually had some good news. This problem is unique to the OPAC boxes, SA8300HDC, and does not appear to be an issue with older boxes. He said they would get me an older box, but it will take a couple of days to find one. In the mean time, I guess I better watch all my DVR'd programming.:D

[QUOTE=carl2680;16193615]

I've known but it looked really bad on my new 46" TV. Blacks looked horrible.

What kind of TV do you have?, I don't think the problem is with the TV. TWC just compress the channels too much that a unconverted dvd player looks sharper that their HD channels.

[QUOTE=MacAlert;16194901]

What kind of TV do you have?, I don't think the problem is with the TV. TWC just compress the channels too much that a unconverted dvd player looks sharper that their HD channels.

I know, just stating my opinions here.

Bah!

I just traded in my 8300HD for an 8300HDC box today...wholly lag time batman.

Does anyone experience this? Whenever I change channels, or use the guide or type in channel numbers there is a much, much more noticeable lag in activity compared with the 8300.

Anyone else experiencing this? Any tips?

Does the 23rd TWC location still have any 8300 DVR boxes, supposely these boxes dont have the audio problems that the 8300HDCs have.

Is there any real difference between the 8300 HD DVR & 8300HDC DVR

did TWC even fix the bug where when you order a event on channel 350 in HD and since i have another tv thats a non-hd on channel 301 . twc will double bill you by mistake. bc there software sux ..how can they not fix this problem when its the same event at the same time, so everytime i have to call them back to credit me..UNREAL

I just realized how crappy TWC HD looks. Sooooo compressed it's disgusting.

It is extraordinary how dramatic the change is in such a short period of time. Right now, I am watching this week's AMC HD show of Mad Men and it just looks drab; colors don't pop, details isn't sharp. I have the HD broadcast of Mad Men from two weeks ago still saved on the DVR and the difference is like night and day. Time Warner must have upped the compression in the last week or two. I'd bet good money that all the compression, audio and video problems many have experienced recently is tied to a rollout of the higher compression.

It's bad, alright. Softness combined with constant mosquito noise. Heck, it looks like what TWC does to its SD digitals. Arguably this isn't really HD.

I guess they figure that they'll get 1/3 more bandwidth, and almost no one will notice. I doubt it will ever get any better than this.

I haven't seen it posted, so:

"The previously announced possible removal of HD Net, ch. 798 and HD Net Movies, ch. 797, on or about March 31, 2009 will not occur at this time. Accordingly, we will not be replacing these channels with Smithsonian HD and MAV TV HD. However, we are currently involved in discussions regarding Smithsonian HD. While we cannot guarantee that we will reach an agreement, we are listing Smithsonian HD, ch. 789 here in the event that we are able to start carrying them in the future. This service will be part of the HD Xtra tier."

I haven't seen it posted, so:

"The previously announced possible removal of HD Net, ch. 798 and HD Net Movies, ch. 797, on or about March 31, 2009 will not occur at this time. Accordingly, we will not be replacing these channels with Smithsonian HD and MAV TV HD. However, we are currently involved in discussions regarding Smithsonian HD. While we cannot guarantee that we will reach an agreement, we are listing Smithsonian HD, ch. 789 here in the event that we are able to start carrying them in the future. This service will be part of the HD Xtra tier."

Look harder :p

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16192355#post16192355

It's bad, alright. Softness combined with constant mosquito noise. Heck, it looks like what TWC does to its SD digitals. Arguably this isn't really HD.

I guess they figure that they'll get 1/3 more bandwidth, and almost no one will notice. I doubt it will ever get any better than this.

It will not get better, in fact it will get worse in June. The rumor is that they are planning to launch a bunch of channels in june alone with the Launch of MSNBCHD. All their so called hd channels are basically a 16x9 picture without detail, or pop in the colors, a lot bur, audio drops.

It will not get better, in fact it will get worse in June. The rumor is that they are planning to launch a bunch of channels in june alone with the Launch of MSNBCHD. All their so called hd channels are basically a 16x9 picture without detail, or pop in the colors, a lot bur, audio drops.Well, we all want more channels. Once the Viacom nets are added, we'll have the vast majority of expanded basic in HD.

TWC has the bandwidth to make everything look better, but they've made a business decision to reserve it. It's too bad: if each HD channel got half of the bandwidth a former analog did, they would all look pretty good.

Well, we all want more channels. Once the Viacom nets are added, we'll have the vast majority of expanded basic in HD.

TWC has the bandwidth to make everything look better, but they've made a business decision to reserve it. It's too bad: if each HD channel got half of the bandwidth a former analog did, they would all look pretty good.

much of the 'unused' bandwidth is likely going to HD Ondemand and Start Over......

I haven't really looked into it recently (not easy to do anymore....)

Hi all - bit of a newbie to this thread. I recently upgraded my standard def TWC box to an HD box and was given the Samsung SMT-H3050 (I don't need a DVR box because I use an external DVR).

When I got the new samsung box, my TVGOS (TV Guide for my external DVR) stopped downloading. Also - there is lag-time when changing channels. I can't tell if the Picture Quality has changed because I'm using a small set right now while my primary is replaced.

Can anyone tell me:

1. Is the SMT-H3050 a good HD box? If not, can I ask them to give me a different one? Which one is best (non DVR preferred since I already have an external one)

2. Does anybody know anything about the lag-time or the TVGOS disappearing from my external DVR as a result of upgrading to this Samsung SMT-H3050 box?

Thanks all!

Hi all - bit of a newbie to this thread. I recently upgraded my standard def TWC box to an HD box and was given the Samsung SMT-H3050 (I don't need a DVR box because I use an external DVR).

When I got the new samsung box, my TVGOS (TV Guide for my external DVR) stopped downloading. Also - there is lag-time when changing channels. I can't tell if the Picture Quality has changed because I'm using a small set right now while my primary is replaced.

Can anyone tell me:

1. Is the SMT-H3050 a good HD box? If not, can I ask them to give me a different one? Which one is best (non DVR preferred since I already have an external one)

2. Does anybody know anything about the lag-time or the TVGOS disappearing from my external DVR as a result of upgrading to this Samsung SMT-H3050 box?

Thanks all!

Change output resolution to 1080i only that will help a great deal, the lag is caused by going from say 720p to 1080i or vice versa. Should be fine complaints about Navigator are mostly about the DVR functions

I don't know if TWC NYC is going to deploy the SMT-H3090. I think they will skip that and go straight to the 3260 and 3270. The 3260 is a newer HD STB from Samsung with MPEG-4 and better specs. The 3270 is newer than the SMT-H3090 and probably includes MPEG-4, a 320 GB HDD, and other new features :). Both are probably in testing. TWC San Diego will be deploying them shortly.

The rumor has been this summer.

Rumor has it that it will be the 3270. That box is of course newer than the 3090.

Rumor has it that it will be the 3270. That box is of course newer than the 3090.

Well, it seems 320G equipped 3090s are actually rolling out in the NC area...

Yes but San Diego is testing a newer version for some reason. No idea how they got a newer version. The specs however are mostly the same. It has a 320 GB HDD and home networking. It's a black box and it's newer. Don't know how much newer but it's new and improved. The reason why TWC is deploying Samsung boxes is simply due to Cisco QC. When Cisco bought out Scientific Atlanta the QC has dropped down considerably. They simply were making them as fast as they could with very little testing. When the HDC boxes came out they would get a ton of them back due to problems.

Yes but San Diego is testing a newer version for some reason. No idea how they got a newer version. The specs however are mostly the same. It has a 320 GB HDD and home networking. It's a black box and it's newer. Don't know how much newer but it's new and improved. The reason why TWC is deploying Samsung boxes is simply due to Cisco QC. When Cisco bought out Scientific Atlanta the QC has dropped down considerably. They simply were making them as fast as they could with very little testing. When the HDC boxes came out they would get a ton of them back due to problems.

I find it difficult to believe Cisco would take over a company and then throw it in the toilet but you never know, from what I have read TWC is working with motorola on a multi-room dvr as well. I am interested in the box with the most hard drive space basically

The Samsung 3270 can have up to a 320 GB HDD. The DCX3400-M series can have up to a 320 GB HDD. TWC has been mentioning 35 hours of HD which means they are ordering DVR's with 320 GB HDD's. Actually the HDC boxes are known to be bad. My 8300HDC has done well but it has it's issues. The 32xx Samsung boxes are doing great in testing. They also have their issues.

Edit: The San Diego/Desert Cities division are planning on testing a Motorola HD-DVR. San Diego has a SA headend and a Motorola area further north.

I have the 8300HDC. For some reason it won't record channel 707 tonight. The DVR lists it as recording, but if I try to play all I get is a black screen and it won't display the info bar either. If I watch the channel live and display the info bar, it doesn't show any buffering. Anybody else experiencing this. BTW, I am able to record on other channels.

I have the 8300HDC. For some reason it won't record channel 707 tonight. The DVR lists it as recording, but if I try to play all I get is a black screen and it won't display the info bar either. If I watch the channel live and display the info bar, it doesn't show any buffering. Anybody else experiencing this. BTW, I am able to record on other channels.Channel 707 went down a little after 5 p.m. It was up at 8 p.m. I recorded "Dancing..." and watched the first 20 minutes. It was fine. I am using an 8300HD.

Cynthia

Well, we all want more channels. Once the Viacom nets are added, we'll have the vast majority of expanded basic in HD.

TWC has the bandwidth to make everything look better, but they've made a business decision to reserve it. It's too bad: if each HD channel got half of the bandwidth a former analog did, they would all look pretty good.

Like Berk32 said most of the bandwidth is going to on demand and star over, so you will continue watching the 3/1 Hd lite show my friend. I know that one analog is equal to 2 hd channels with full badwidth, and no compression. I don't know how much star over takes, but even since they did deploy it,I have been having a lot of audio drops, blur, and picture freeze.

Like Berk32 said most of the bandwidth is going to on demand and star over, so you will continue watching the 3/1 Hd lite show my friend. I know that one analog is equal to 2 hd channels with full badwidth, and no compression. I don't know how much star over takes, but even since they did deploy it,I have been having a lot of audio drops, blur, and picture freeze.

Thats not completely true....

Many cable networks themselves dont send out their HD signal using the full 19mbps... many come in to TWC at 14mbps.... some as low as 12 mbps... so TWC isn't doing anything to them...


(and starz on demand adds nothing.... all SD ondemand gets the same space as always... 4 QAM channels)

Does the 23rd TWC location still have any 8300 DVR boxes, supposely these boxes dont have the audio problems that the 8300HDCs have.

Is there any real difference between the 8300 HD DVR & 8300HDC DVR

I'm not an expert on the differences, although there do seem to be a lot of "8300HD snobs" ;-) around here. About 2.5 weeks ago I was offered a refurbished 8300HD at 23rd street, so it looks like they had a bunch as recently as then.

The Mets were looking great on SNY HD yesterday. Video was gorgeous.

The Mets were looking great on SNY HD yesterday. Video was gorgeous.

All the sports channels look great for some reason. It's all the other channels that look horrible.

Anyone having any issues on UES around 96th?

Woke up this morning to find both Cable & Internet are out.

Channel 707 went down a little after 5 p.m. It was up at 8 p.m. I recorded "Dancing..." and watched the first 20 minutes. It was fine. I am using an 8300HD.

Cynthia

I too was able to watch the channel w/o problem. It just wouldn't record for me or live buffer so that I could rewind.

[QUOTE=Berk32;16212538]Thats not completely true....

Many cable networks themselves dont send out their HD signal using the full 19mbps... many come in to TWC at 14mbps.... some as low as 12 mbps... so TWC isn't doing anything to them...


(and starz on demand adds nothing.... all SD ondemand gets the same space as always... 4 QAM channels)[/QUO
different in quality.

To me that is a joke, of course they compress the cable channels like Comcast. if your statement were true then how come the HD channels via TWC look mediocre, when you compare them with Verizon Fios and Directv.

Just a reminder folks...

the MLB Extra Innings free preview is this week, Game HD included.

Coincidentally, we also have access to another sport that is located just above MLB iN the cHannel Lineup.

[quote=Berk32;16212538]Thats not completely true....

Many cable networks themselves dont send out their HD signal using the full 19mbps... many come in to TWC at 14mbps.... some as low as 12 mbps... so TWC isn't doing anything to them...


(and starz on demand adds nothing.... all SD ondemand gets the same space as always... 4 QAM channels)[/QUO
different in quality.

To me that is a joke, of course they compress the cable channels like Comcast. if your statement were true then how come the HD channels via TWC look mediocre, when you compare them with Verizon Fios and Directv.great point. even palladia doesn't look great anymore. it's all pixelated and blocky. towards the end of the month i'm gonna try and figure out pros and cos of switching to rcn. access to setenta and espn360 is already enticing in itself.

I'm not an expert on the differences, although there do seem to be a lot of "8300HD snobs" ;-) around here. About 2.5 weeks ago I was offered a refurbished 8300HD at 23rd street, so it looks like they had a bunch as recently as then.


The 8300 old style legacy boxes, also known as the Passport box, will be flashed with the MDN navigator software by May 31st.

The only place to find an 8300 box right now is in Manhattan but it doesn’t matter, they will all be 'crapagatored' by June 1st, if all goes as scheduled. The recordings on the hard drives will not be affected.

This information was told to me from a knowledgeable service technician.

Has anyone tried calling Time Warner and been getting busy signals, my new wonderful HDC box seems to have died while I was out this afternoon

Has anyone tried calling Time Warner and been getting busy signals, my new wonderful HDC box seems to have died while I was out this afternoon

Apparently this afternoon my box is having trouble too, it loads up and then says it can't receive data. Tried calling and I also get the busy signal too.:mad:

Thats not completely true....

Many cable networks themselves dont send out their HD signal using the full 19mbps... many come in to TWC at 14mbps.... some as low as 12 mbps... so TWC isn't doing anything to them...


(and starz on demand adds nothing.... all SD ondemand gets the same space as always... 4 QAM channels)[/QUO
different in quality.

To me that is a joke, of course they compress the cable channels like Comcast. if your statement were true then how come the HD channels via TWC look mediocre, when you compare them with Verizon Fios and Directv.

I recorded Speed Racer on Cinemax and stoped watching after 10 min. I knew it wasn't a good movie but I wanted to see it anyway. But with all the fast motion in that movie came tons of blocky pixelation courtesy of TWC. It was impossible to watch.

I got through finally and they claimed it was a Manhattanwide problem.

Just got home from work and my box is dead too... just sits there displaying "APP" on the LED screen. Tried rebooting and starts up as normal then the TV goes blank and "APP" is back on the screen again.

Is this the problem others are having today?

I am having the same cable box problem with my 8300HD DVR box. However, after trying 50 times, I finally got thru to TW. There was a message saynig they were aware of the problem and (I swear) they said DO NOT REBOOT YOUR BOX. THIS MAY CAUSE INTERRUPTION OF SERVICE. Can they be serious? What do they expect people to do when they find their box locked up with an APP in the display. On top of that, you can't contact TW to ask what to do! Just amazing. When the helll is FIOS coming to Englewood, NJ!?

Yes, same problem here as well. I tried rebooting (before I knew there was a problem) and now it's locked up on "Alt".

QUOTE=frischa;16218436]I got through finally and they claimed it was a Manhattanwide problem.[/QUOTE]
I had no problems with my 8300HDS at any time.:cool:knock on wood)

I am also having the same cable box issues. My box was stuck on APP. I tried turning it off and back on in case it had gotten stuck or something. Now it is stuck on AIT (the screen before APP). It seems like the necessary data for the OCAP application isn't coming through....or something like that. I cannot get through to TWC via phone or their online chat as hard as I might try. What a great company! I have been trying to get through since 5:30.

got home from work and mine is stuck on APP. I live on the UWS. What does this mean.

what is their support phone number. This is ridiculous. First dolby digital audio problems with the update last week, now this.

OK... well at least it's not just me then ;-) Tried calling but it's just busy... obviously everyone is calling up now.

When the lines do open up I'm certainly going to milk this for all I can get with customer service (eg "so how much of a refund am I going to get for the nonexistent service I paid for this month")... I suggest everyone else does the same ;-)

Also, who want's to bet how long until we start seeing FIOS adverts taking advantage of this and talking about their "rock solid network" blah blah blah ;-)

The 8300 old style legacy boxes, also known as the Passport box, will be flashed with the ODN navigator software by May 31st.

The only place to find an 8300 box right now is in Manhattan but it doesn’t matter, they will all be 'crapagatored' by June 1st, if all goes as scheduled. The recordings on the hard drives will not be affected.

This information was told to me from a knowledgeable service technician.

If that's true I suggest you guys get HDC's. It has 128 megs ram as opposed to the 64 megs ram in the HD. I would imagine it will run slow with so little memory. This should be interesting :eek:

Happily only my cable box seems to be suffering. The cable cards do not seem to have any issues. The recorded message says the issue is only above west 79th and only has to do with VOD and MLB service. Still on hold for a rep. BTW: I am on the UWS.

talk to rep, big cable outage on uws

Both my Navigator boxes went out with APP-without trying to reboot-but my Passport boxes are fine. It figures!!!

It's not just the UWS...or just Manhattan! I am in Englewood, NJ and I have the exxact same problem. More lies.

My rep said the issue is with all of Northern Manhattan and only Northern Manhattan then she hung up. That is after being on hold ten minutes hearing that the only current issues are with VOD.

I think it is coming back now, my box is counting down

same here... just started... I'm on 8 now

clock is back, but when I turn on the tv and cable box there is no picture. Guess they are still having problems.

Yea, it finally comes back, but now I have no picture!! I have the time on the box and it changes channels, but nothing is showing on the screen except for the banner with the channel and show name. I tried using the DVR and when I pick a show and hit PLAY, nothing happens.

Was counting down, but now has been hung on "1" for a while

clock is back, but when I turn on the tv and cable box there is no picture. Guess they are still having problems.

Do you guys get ODN 3 yet?, maybe it is the update. Mine went must have updated 4 or 5 times over 2 days when I got ODN3. It has been nice and stable for the last week or so. It would count down from like 800 with letters in there as well.

Yes, got that a bit back but still having problems now... same issue as others now described where the system is booted but there's nothing coming through.

Well my favorite show is on now (the whole reason I came into the living room and noticed the problem in the first place)... looks like I'm going to miss it. Thanks Time Warner! ;-(

Still no picture in Englewood, NJ. Has anyone tried rebooting the box? I am afraid to try, but it's been back up for almost an hour and still no picture.

I finally got through to the customer service line but only to get the aforementioned recording. I will confirm though that it does says "do not restart or reboot the box".

Ha, so finally now seems to be working. Interestingly it appears that the box was actually doing something when it was sitting there 'dead' before after it rebooted as it recorded my show onto the DVR (even though nothing was showing on the screen for any channel). Oh well, the whole thing was still extremely annoying.

Still nothing here for me on the UWS. My box is still stuck on AIT.

The 8300 old style legacy boxes, also known as the Passport box, will be flashed with the ODN navigator software by May 31st.

The only place to find an 8300 box right now is in Manhattan but it doesn’t matter, they will all be 'crapagatored' by June 1st, if all goes as scheduled. The recordings on the hard drives will not be affected.

This information was told to me from a knowledgeable service technician.

Aww. :(

Well, Caller ID, here I come....

LL3HD,

The non HDC's are getting MDN not ODN. MDN is similar to ODN but doesn't run on Java. It's written in C and it's quite good actually. In most cases it actually runs better than ODN.

LL3HD,

The non HDC's are getting MDN not ODN. MDN is similar to ODN but doesn't run on Java. It's written in C and it's quite good actually. In most cases it actually runs better than ODN.Thanks for the correction.:cool: I adjusted my post. Hopefully this truly is an improvement. Do you know if we will now have buffers on both tuners?

My source also told me that they are currently deploying the “new” Samsung HD DVR boxes (in our NY area) at a snails pace—each tech (maybe) gets one a day. He had no information regarding the size of the hard drive.

got home from work and mine is stuck on APP. I live on the UWS. What does this mean.

what is their support phone number. This is ridiculous. First dolby digital audio problems with the update last week, now this.

That odd, we're out of the same head end and I didn't have such issues last night. I DID notice that I could NOT get any IPG data beyond "today" until after 8 PM.

ASo we're going to get MDNed by the end of next month? AND no new boxes to try out (i.e. Samsung)??

Thanks for the correction.:cool: I adjusted my post. Hopefully this truly is an improvement. Do you know if we will now have buffers on both tuners?

My source also told me that they are currently deploying the “new” Samsung HD DVR boxes (in our NY area) at a snails pace—each tech (maybe) gets one a day. He had no information regarding the size of the hard drive.

Too bad nobody who han gs here is reporting a Sammie 3090 sighting. There's one guy out of NC that is posting and has one (the big news is it has a 320G drive). PLUS, rumor also seems to be that a slightly later rev DVR box (3270 I think) MIGHT be the one deployed.

Yes, purely anecdotally from what I've read in AVS, it seems MDN is held in ever so slightly higher regard than ODN. So it COULD be possible that we should stick with 8300HD and MDN that swapping out our boxes. Time will tell.

Will having MDN mean Start Over, caller ID on screen, and the two OnDemand channels we don't now get will be happpening?

Still no picture in Englewood,NJ. Got through to Cust Svc this morning. They are aware of the continuing problem and have no idea when it will be fixed. I asked if I could get an adjustment on my bill and was told that I woul need to call back after the service comes back and ask for it. And this was after waiting for 25 min to talk to someone! She then, amazingly, tried to sell me their phone service!! I just laughed at her and said today is NOT the day to push people to get more service from them!

Definetly call up TWC and give them a hard time over this... especially if you're in an area with FIOS. After pushing they did credit me for a day... personally I was expecting something more but they said that's all they were authorized to do.

I wasn't very impressed with their service to be honest. The rep was very dismissive saying "Well from time to time there are problems, that's just the way it is." to which I said "I can appreciate that, but of course I'm not going to pay for service when you're unable to deliver said service."

Unbelievably, the rep then tried to get me to lock into a longer term contract to which I replied:

"Um, given the questionable nature of your service quality I'm certainly NOT going to lock myself into a multi-year contract with you guys. Deliver a quality product first and then ask me about signing up for longer term contracts."

That shut them up quite quick ;-)

Certainly going to take a closer look at FIOS now...

Rocketman,

Do you have your service back?

Will having MDN mean Start Over, caller ID on screen, and the two OnDemand channels we don't now get will be happpening?Yes, we (8300 Passport folks) will get the good :rolleyes: along with the bad.

Rocketman,

Do you have a picture back yet? If so, when did it return? Mine was still out at 7:00 AM this morning.

JeffWilson,

Yes... I don't know exactly when it came back on, but sometime late last night around 11PM or so. For several hours the whole box was just frozen... then it booted up and I could cycle through the channels (with program info displayed) but the rest of the screen was black. I gave up on it and couldn't get through to customer service so just let it go and then after 11 it was working again.

The rep I spoke to seemed to think that there were still problems since she wanted to establish if my service was restored yet and also asked if my internet was OK. She said something like "Yeah, there are problems that they are working on now."

Thanks. I am suprised that you got service back 12 hours ago and I sitll dno;t have service. Remind me, didn't you reboot your box when you first saw the problem (like I did)? Since they said that if you reboot you might have a (continued) service interruption, I want to make sure I didn't hose myself and need to get a new box. Thanks.

Jeff

I did reboot before I knew about them saying not to, but it didn't seem to change anything as it just went right back to the frozen state it was in when I arrived home.

I think when the system reboots it does a lot of communicating with the central office and thus they may have wanted to stop people rebooting to cut down on that traffic... I don't know this for sure (and someone who knows more could probably answer) but that's my theory on that bit at least.

That theory makes a lot of sense. Thanks again...hopefully it is working when I get home.

Yes, we (8300 Passport folks) will get the good :rolleyes: along with the bad.

I guess the question for me is whether our external hard drives will continue to function (properly) with the MDN update? Remains to be seen....

Some ODN releases break the hard drive completely....and others seem to have this "sleep" bug where you always have to keep something recording or it goes to sleep. I SHUDDER to think what's going to happen to our stability!

It is still out for me on the UWS. Just spoke to TWC, they have no real idea what is going on. There is no longer any recording about an issue in Northern Manhattan and the rep simply says they believe there is still an ongoing issue.

parkds, reboot your cable box and it should work. I live on the UWS also.

this morning when I turned on the tv and cable box, I could see the guide but no picture (i.e. shows, movies).

I rebooted the box and now everything works fine

I guess the question for me is whether our external hard drives will continue to function (properly) with the MDN update? Remains to be seen....

Some ODN releases break the hard drive completely....and others seem to have this "sleep" bug where you always have to keep something recording or it goes to sleep. I SHUDDER to think what's going to happen to our stability!

What an annoying dilemma for me. I'm going away for a couple of weeks, and returning on May 31st. I need the extra space of my external drive to capture all the shows while I'm away, yet, I'm afraid of what MDN will do to the hard drive.

With any luck, TW will take longer to get MDN fully rolled out, and I'll be able to watch everything important before there is a problem.

-barry

I guess the question for me is whether our external hard drives will continue to function (properly) with the MDN update? Remains to be seen....
At least you now know when it’s going to happen and can either watch what you have or “relocate” what you want to archive-- just in case. ;)

My Time Warner NYC Cable bill just went up $6 starting this month.

Here's the breakdown: Basic Service $13 + Standard Service $38 ... lol. Isn't Basic and Standard the same word? DOH!

Anyway, I digress.

Moving on: DTV $10.15 + Converter box $6 + DVR Service $10.95 + Additional DTV service in bedroom $10.84 + franchise fee $5

It comes to $95 a month. No premium channels, no HD Tier channels, just basic/standard DTV cable and two HD converter boxes for $95 a month.

VERIZON FIOS can't get to the Upper West Side fast enough for me... I am so done with TWC.

My cable box finally just clicked back on. Everything seems to be working ok but the picture on the HD stations is abysmal now. Tons of pixilation. TWC is very frustrating.

My Time Warner NYC Cable bill just went up $6 starting this month.

Here's the breakdown: Basic Service $13 + Standard Service $38 ... lol. Isn't Basic and Standard the same word? DOH!

Anyway, I digress.

Moving on: DTV $10.15 + Converter box $6 + DVR Service $10.95 + Additional DTV service in bedroom $10.84 + franchise fee $5

It comes to $95 a month. No premium channels, no HD Tier channels, just basic/standard DTV cable and two HD converter boxes for $95 a month.

VERIZON FIOS can't get to the Upper West Side fast enough for me... I am so done with TWC.
You and me both.....rates keep going up and quality keeps going down. Stupid monopoly!


Where are you Verizon!!!!!!!

I also posted this in another thread (yeah I know, cross posting is frowned on, sorry), but wanted to cover my homies as well:

I've been quietly looking for external cases that have a RAID chip in them AND have a SATA i/o interface. I've come across several that use a RAID chip in a 2 drive enclosure, but with only a FW interface.

I've now come across the kind of beast I've been looking for! A 2 drive case with all of the typical interfaces (FW400, FW800, USB 2, SATA) AND has a RAID chip to strip (or mirror) 2 HDs. Not only that, but the price of this baby is simply not to be believed (2 T for $255???). I have no idea how long this price will last, but have to believe it won't be all that long.

http://www.jr.com/western-digital/pe/WD_WDH2Q20000N/

Of course, absolutely NO guarantee it will work with any DVR, but it sure as hell will work with any computer, so it meets it's design goals as a mass storage device.

Yes, two TERABYTES!

I also posted this in another thread (yeah I know, cross posting is frowned on, sorry), but wanted to cover my homies as well:

I've been quietly looking for external cases that have a RAID chip in them AND have a SATA i/o interface. I've come across several that use a RAID chip in a 2 drive enclosure, but with only a FW interface.

I've now come across the kind of beast I've been looking for! A 2 drive case with all of the typical interfaces (FW400, FW800, USB 2, SATA) AND has a RAID chip to strip (or mirror) 2 HDs. Not only that, but the price of this baby is simply not to be believed (2 T for $255???). I have no idea how long this price will last, but have to believe it won't be all that long.

http://www.jr.com/western-digital/pe/WD_WDH2Q20000N/

Of course, absolutely NO guarantee it will work with any DVR, but it sure as hell will work with any computer, so it meets it's design goals as a mass storage device.

Yes, two TERABYTES!
R_G -- when you get yours, let us know if it works with your 8300HD. :)

At least you now know when it’s going to happen and can either watch what you have or “relocate” what you want to archive-- just in case. ;)

Ugh...if only I had enough hours in the day for all of the stuff that's on my external drive. It's a losing battle just to keep it from being 100% full at all times! I'd need a month off from work to get through everything!

Hey guys, anyone know if HBO HD on demand is in the cards for us?

Has any one had a problem with cable & internet today on the UWS. My was out for about 4 hours. Its back on now.

I also posted this in another thread (yeah I know, cross posting is frowned on, sorry), but wanted to cover my homies as well:

I've been quietly looking for external cases that have a RAID chip in them AND have a SATA i/o interface. I've come across several that use a RAID chip in a 2 drive enclosure, but with only a FW interface.

I've now come across the kind of beast I've been looking for! A 2 drive case with all of the typical interfaces (FW400, FW800, USB 2, SATA) AND has a RAID chip to strip (or mirror) 2 HDs. Not only that, but the price of this baby is simply not to be believed (2 T for $255???). I have no idea how long this price will last, but have to believe it won't be all that long.

http://www.jr.com/western-digital/pe/WD_WDH2Q20000N/

Of course, absolutely NO guarantee it will work with any DVR, but it sure as hell will work with any computer, so it meets it's design goals as a mass storage device.

Yes, two TERABYTES!

Riverside the last thing you want is a Raid 0 setup, lose one drive and you are finished. Raid 0 is usually used for gaming to increase the speed but it is risky since the data is just spread all over the two drives. If one drive fails there is no way to restore the data unless it is Raid 0 +1 which is a mirrored Raid 0. A mirror is just an exact copy of the data on a second drive or drives, neither of these make sense for a DVR.
Why would you want a Raid setup for this?

even with the limited space on the hdc, i havent run into the drive being full yet, but a friend has.

he tells me that shows arent being erased anymore, when the drive becomes full. this causes the hdc not to record anymore.

how can he/we get the old function back, where it deleted old shows to get new shows.

is there an option some where?

is this controlled by keep all showings in the record series option?

thanks.

even with the limited space on the hdc, i havent run into the drive being full yet, but a friend has.

he tells me that shows arent being erased anymore, when the drive becomes full. this causes the hdc not to record anymore.

how can he/we get the old function back, where it deleted old shows to get new shows.

is there an option some where?

is this controlled by keep all showings in the record series option?

thanks.

yes when you do a series recording it is set too do not delete with a star next to it too tell you do not delete so you have to go to either rec'ed shows or shows to be rec and change it too until space is needed in rec options.
hope that helps

Has anyone been having a problem when your watching something and it freezes and to un freeze you have to go to another channel and back to get it back to work..this has been happening alot lately.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/04/10/time-warner-cable-lays-out-broadband-capping-plans-says-150-fo

What are they thinking? Force everyone to move to FIOS? Ridiculous :confused:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/04/10/time-warner-cable-lays-out-broadband-capping-plans-says-150-fo

What are they thinking? Force everyone to move to FIOS? Ridiculous :confused:


i dont think that will hit NYC anytime soon, but leaving to FIOS is something i might just on if/when it come to my neighborhood.

yes when you do a series recording it is set too do not delete with a star next to it too tell you do not delete so you have to go to either rec'ed shows or shows to be rec and change it too until space is needed in rec options.
hope that helps

thanks, so there is no where to change the default method?

also, what if you change the keep the number of episodes number to last 1 episode in stead of keep everything?

will it delete the episode as soon as it records another epsiode, or will it only delete it when it needs space.

again thanks.

I'll tell you what doesn't work: start over on HD shows. Breakups and stuttering galore, on any channel you try it.

thanks, so there is no where to change the default method?

also, what if you change the keep the number of episodes number to last 1 episode in stead of keep everything?

will it delete the episode as soon as it records another epsiode, or will it only delete it when it needs space.

again thanks.

I have a series recording set to keep 2 episodes, and as soon as it records episode 3, it deletes episode 1 - whether it needs the disk space or not.

-barry

Has anyone been having a problem when your watching something and it freezes and to un freeze you have to go to another channel and back to get it back to work..this has been happening alot lately.

Yes and my experience is that it happens a lot on Channel 1903. However, lately, I noticed it's occuring on 744. On 744 I also notice a lot of pixelation and audio stutters lately.

i'll tell you what doesn't work: Start over on hd shows. Breakups and stuttering galore, on any channel you try it.

+1

Riverside the last thing you want is a Raid 0 setup, lose one drive and you are finished. Raid 0 is usually used for gaming to increase the speed but it is risky since the data is just spread all over the two drives. If one drive fails there is no way to restore the data unless it is Raid 0 +1 which is a mirrored Raid 0. A mirror is just an exact copy of the data on a second drive or drives, neither of these make sense for a DVR.
Why would you want a Raid setup for this?

Wretched excess<g>???

Indeed I do know chapter and verse about all the "dangers" of stripped arrays. Been using 'em for dozens of years. Been fortunate, never had one die on me... then again I'm better than most about keeping backed up.

Have only one drive, lose a drive, you're finished.

Of course, all external drive housings that have RAID chips can do 0 or 1. One COULD simply mirror, so if one drive fails, you're still in business. 0 + 1 needs to have 4 drives. Some day, maybe external housings will have chips that do 5, 6, 9 or 10.

However, if one were to lose a whole bunch of recordings, they are all (well, most all) replaceable with a Netflix subscription!

Then again, the more space we have to store stuff, the more stuff gets recorded and never watched. Think about it, say you have 100 hours of recorded HD on a 1T drive. Knowing there always new stuff you have to record, in how many lifetimes would you be able to watch all that stuff?

Of course, I can also seamlessly argue the other side... with 100 hours recorded, I have have a vast library of stuff to choose from to watch. PLUS, a lot of episodic TV can be hard to follow as many times there's 3-4-5 shows, then several weeks break, then another 5, then more break weeks.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/04/10/time-warner-cable-lays-out-broadband-capping-plans-says-150-fo

What are they thinking? Force everyone to move to FIOS? Ridiculous :confused:

Some have pointed out that the previous trial one and these new ones are happening in markets were FIOS may be a long while in coming. But the trend is very clear, they are still operating in their old 100% monopoly mode.

What I do NOT see talked about very much is the throttling. Download a multi gig file and everything else goes into ultra slow mode. Exact same thing happens if you are sending not getting... which means you are using 5% of you available bandwidth... it's still throttled.

Just noticed that Channel 7 looks terrible today.

As I type this post trying to watch The Ten Commandments the picture is downright blurry.

Switching to Channel 707 (HD) picture looks grainy and lifeless.

In the past watching this movie in SD was always stunning.

Can someone tune in and confirm what I see...?

No, it looks like crap everywhere...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1133503

Where's your HD nnnnnoooooowww!

Where's your HD nnnnnoooooowww!

http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1231_hysterically_laughing.gif

Hi, I am a TWC customer in Queens. I have a HD-DVR, but just recently added an EyeTV Hybrid. I'm just wondering would I get more HD channels if I split off my current line with a splitter and tune into everything that is coming in clear from TWC, or would I be better off with an HD Antenna assuming I have a place to mount it and get decent reception. Also is there a current mapping somewhere that maps TWCs frequencies to stations?

Thanks

Adam

LL3HD,

The non HDC's are getting MDN not ODN. MDN is similar to ODN but doesn't run on Java. It's written in C and it's quite good actually. In most cases it actually runs better than ODN.

I forget. What's the difference between MDN and ODN?

I have an 8300HD, so I guess I'll find out soon enough.

No, it looks like crap everywhere...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1133503

Where's your HD nnnnnoooooowww!

It was an absolute Sacrelidge... The Ten Commandments looked so bad on 707 that it was virtually unwatchable!

They used an old 480i/4:3 master.

How could you ABC-HD... How could you debaucher an American classic like that!

A_C

Some have pointed out that the previous trial one and these new ones are happening in markets were FIOS may be a long while in coming. But the trend is very clear, they are still operating in their old 100% monopoly mode.

What I do NOT see talked about very much is the throttling. Download a multi gig file and everything else goes into ultra slow mode. Exact same thing happens if you are sending not getting... which means you are using 5% of you available bandwidth... it's still throttled.
It looks like TWC is about to screw the pooch.

A conspiracy theorist might say that this looks like collusion between the cable companies and major media. Since none have a viable business model for online content, they've decided to rape the consumer. Theoretically this could be an effective tool to kill online growth: Manipulate the market by making it too expensive for the average consumer and you'll regrow traditional media.

What other broadband providers are in New York City (besides limited access to Cablevision, RCN, or Fios)?

Wretched excess<g>???

Indeed I do know chapter and verse about all the "dangers" of stripped arrays. Been using 'em for dozens of years. Been fortunate, never had one die on me... then again I'm better than most about keeping backed up.

Have only one drive, lose a drive, you're finished.

Of course, all external drive housings that have RAID chips can do 0 or 1. One COULD simply mirror, so if one drive fails, you're still in business. 0 + 1 needs to have 4 drives. Some day, maybe external housings will have chips that do 5, 6, 9 or 10.

However, if one were to lose a whole bunch of recordings, they are all (well, most all) replaceable with a Netflix subscription!

Then again, the more space we have to store stuff, the more stuff gets recorded and never watched. Think about it, say you have 100 hours of recorded HD on a 1T drive. Knowing there always new stuff you have to record, in how many lifetimes would you be able to watch all that stuff?

Of course, I can also seamlessly argue the other side... with 100 hours recorded, I have have a vast library of stuff to choose from to watch. PLUS, a lot of episodic TV can be hard to follow as many times there's 3-4-5 shows, then several weeks break, then another 5, then more break weeks.

What is your goal? Do you want a mirror to have a backup of your shows or are you just looking for maximum space. I would stay away from raid 0 at all costs as you know but can you just use the 2 terabytes without the raid in this drive? Also I am sure you are aware that ODN 3 is not playing nice with external drives according to what people are saying, If you get MDN it may not even work

According to a recently posted announcement on the Buffalo NY TWC website Smithsonian HD is being launched effective 5/1/09. I would expect that we should be seeing it around the same time.

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=smithsonian+hd+twc&d=75793324648530&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=c6f53a7e,ec5951b7

I forget. What's the difference between MDN and ODN?

I have an 8300HD, so I guess I'll find out soon enough.

MDN is basically guide made just for the older boxes. I basically answered your question. It has no Java code. The beauty of ODN is that you can run it on tru2way devices. Then you wouldn't need a box. You'll still need a box for a DVR but that won't stop a CE mfg from making a dual tuner TV with a DVR feature. MDN is a bit faster than ODN since it has no Java code. MDN and ODN are missing some features that Passport had like keyword search, and expanded program listings. I've had MDN on my 3250HD and it's pretty good however it has it's issues. However it runs best on newer cable boxes like the 3250HD and the 8300HD. It doesn't run very well on an older SA or Pioneer SD box. I had MDN on a Pioneer box and it was like DOS and ran very slow.

What is your goal? Do you want a mirror to have a backup of your shows or are you just looking for maximum space. I would stay away from raid 0 at all costs as you know but can you just use the 2 terabytes without the raid in this drive? Also I am sure you are aware that ODN 3 is not playing nice with external drives according to what people are saying, If you get MDN it may not even work

Yes I know about the ODN issues with external drives. Don't recall the same issues with MDN though. According to rumor, I should be getting MDN either the beginning or the end of May.

I was trying to present more than one option... plus an "argument" that the more one stores, the more one doesn't watch.

I decided a while ago that the Passport trick play bug when using an external drive was a killer for me. To compensate, I went with a "watch it VERY quickly" policy, that for the past year plus DOES seem to be working mostly OK for me. That shouldn't preclude me from presenting both pro and con arguments regarding the issue in general. OR from passing along product info that some may want to know about.

Yes I know about the ODN issues with external drives. Don't recall the same issues with MDN though. According to rumor, I should be getting MDN either the beginning or the end of May.

I was trying to present more than one option... plus an "argument" that the more one stores, the more one doesn't watch.

I decided a while ago that the Passport trick play bug when using an external drive was a killer for me. To compensate, I went with a "watch it VERY quickly" policy, that for the past year plus DOES seem to be working mostly OK for me. That shouldn't preclude me from presenting both pro and con arguments regarding the issue in general. OR from passing along product info that some may want to know about.

I am not arguing you shouldn't get it, I would love to have more space to save stuff and was thinking about doing something about it until I heard external drives not not work with odn anymore. I hope that is a glitch they will fix unless they really do not want you doing that.

I am not arguing you shouldn't get it, I would love to have more space to save stuff and was thinking about doing something about it until I heard external drives not not work with odn anymore. I hope that is a glitch they will fix unless they really do not want you doing that.

No, I understand you're advising caution about using RAID 0 setups, I've heard that caution for years in the "computer" space.

It actually freaks me out that they "allow" that Passport bug to stick around while they never fix or even address it. As well as I'm reading about broken support in the ODN series. This in no way is any rocket science, it sure seems like they are doing a very amateur job on the software front.

Hopefully we will actually start getting the Samsung DVR soon (rumor had it we would get it first, but they seem to be now deployed in some of the NC markets) and it SHOULD have a 320G internal drive. 40 hours of HD MAY hold us until they make external drives do what they are fully capable of doing... storing and retrieving data!

I just ordered basic cable from TWC since my reception problems just using OTA are getting too annoying. The service will only cost $11.25/mo! Does anyone know what set top box they provide for this? They did confirm that this wil be an HD capable box.
Thanks.

I just ordered basic cable from TWC since my reception problems just using OTA are getting too annoying. The service will only cost $11.25/mo! Does anyone know what set top box they provide for this? They did confirm that this wil be an HD capable box.
Thanks.
If you're only going basic, you might as well do a QAM scan on your set, if it's capable.

If you're only going basic, you might as well do a QAM scan on your set, if it's capable.


Only if you're absolutely sure that TWC 'Basic' service consists solely of the clear QAM's. Has that been confirmed?

A_C

Only if you're absolutely sure that TWC 'Basic' service consists solely of the clear QAM's. Has that been confirmed?

A_C
Pretty sure it does in S. Manhattan. Along with the broadcast nets, we get the C-SPANs, public access, and religious channels ITC. Even TNT HD is ITC.

If you're only going basic, you might as well do a QAM scan on your set, if it's capable.
Only if you're absolutely sure that TWC 'Basic' service consists solely of the clear QAM's. Has that been confirmed?

A_C

I'll still use my EyeTV as a DVR for the majority of my viewing and feed the computer into the TV as I do now. It will just be sourced from clear QAM rather than OTA. Since a set top box comes with the service, I'll also feed that into the TV. It will be interesting to see if more channels are available through clear QAM than the STB. I'll let everyone know next week when it gets installed.

Anyone else having problems with SNY and MSG HD channels? I get sound, but no picture!!! :mad:

Does anyone have picture on 726 SNYHD? I've got a grey screen and audio only. SD 26 is fine.

Yes-me, too! Both the Rangers and the METS. BUMMER!!!

also no picture on 726 for the Mets game. What a joke.

I've got picture back on 726.

Picture's back, and I missed both the Mets and Rangers scoring. **** you, TWC.

Picture's back, and I missed both the Mets and Rangers scoring. **** you, TWC.

thanks for the heads-up that the HD is back

oh well, frozen again. :rolleyes:

No Mets or Rangers picture here too (Brooklyn). Unbe-****-lievable.

yep gone again!

sort of like Murphy and Ollie.

sort of like Murphy and Ollie.

haha indeed!

Aaaaand we're back.

For now.

Again.

And MSG and SNY are down again. :(

Mets first win at Citi Field and can't enjoy the moment in HD. Aaaargh

Anyone else having problems with SNY and MSG HD channels? I get sound, but no picture!!! :mad:

Ah, good to see it wasn't just me. Picture froze about 5 minutes into the first period (hey, we ARE talking about a frakking playoff hockey game here). Kept switching back and forth w/27, got 4 minutes after the first period to see all the scoring, then it froze again. Came back for good around the first minute or two of the third period.

Crime Warner sux!

Looks like the TWC internet caps are not working out for them :)

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/04/16/public-rage-stalls-time-warner-trials-of-consumption-based-inter/

Watching a great Rangers playoff game was painful last night with all the HD freezes. Forcing me to have to watch SD for hockey is like me going from my XBOX 360 back to Atari and playing Pong. :o

Hope this is fixed before Game 2.

Any idea on when this is coming in HD?

I've been having the SNYHD problems last couple of days also. This morning CNBCHD is blank, regular CNBC works fine.

Any idea on when this is coming in HD?

Not sure when this is going to go live on TWC. I remember at the beginning of 2009, there was an official release date and then it was postponed on their channel changes postings.

I would like to watch my UFC shows in HD. Hopefully this will be resolved before we go into summer.

Any idea on when this is coming in HD?

As I recall, it was 12/17 in Northern Manhattan... then postponed indefinitely. Sounds like lack of carriage agreement...

As I recall, it was 12/17 in Northern Manhattan... then postponed indefinitely. Sounds like lack of carriage agreement...


Tired of seeing guys get the crap beat out of them in SD.

from TWC

Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens and Mount Vernon

April 17th, 2009

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their services and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following agreements are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services/stations in the near future:

Azteca America, BBC on Demand, Chinese Channel, Chinese Cinema, CV Network, E!, Fuel TV, Great American Country (GAC), Game Show Network, HD Net, HD Net Movies, HITN, Lifetime, NBA TV, ShopNBC, Style, Supercanal, The Arabic Channel, RTVi, RAI, NGTV, TV Japan, TV Polonia, WABC TV Plus, Weather Channel, and WPIX.

In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

On or about May 1, 2009 we will launch Smithsonian HD on ch. 789. This service will be part of the HD Xtra tier.

On or about May 20, 2009 we will launch MTV Tr3s on ch. 888. On that date the following services will change channel position(s):

BBC America will change from ch. 106 and ch. 846 to ch. 106 and ch, 811, Galavision from 69 to 69 and 812, Game Show Network from 117 and 855 to 117 and 813, Ecuavisa from 826 to 814, TV Colombia from 872 to 816, ESPN News from 172 and 853 to 172 and 823, Fox Soccer from 124 and 852 to 124 and 824, Cultural,es from 818 to 828, Discovery Familia from 870 to 829, La Familia from 827 and 1910 to 830 and 1910, HITN from 811 to 831, Hallmark from 84 and 847 to 84 and 832, Planet Green from 114 and 841 to 114 and 834, Science Channel from 111, 845 and 1905 to 111, 836 and 1905, Military Channel from 112 and 843 to 112 and 837, Disney from 49 and 1906 to 49, 840 and 1906, Vme from 812 to 841, Sorpresa from 829 to 843, Boomerang (SAP) from 830 to 844, Cartoon (SAP) from 831 to 845, Nicktoons from 138 and 835 to 138 and 846, Noogin from 129, 836 and 1911 to 129, 847 and 1911, CNN Espanol from 814 to 852, TVE24 from 813 to 853, NY1 from 1 to 1 and 854, Utilisima Satelital from 825 to 860, Latele Novela from 873 to 861, Discovery Health from 115 and 840 to 115 and 862, Fit TV from 116, 844 and 1908 to 116, 863 and 1908, Food Network from 50 and 1914 to 50, 864 and 1914, Fine Living from 144 and 857 to 144 and 865, EWTN Espanol from 828 to 868, The Net from 97 to 97 and 869, Word Network from 142 and 864 to 142 and 870, Shop NBC from 32 to 32 and 873, QVC from 33 to 33 and 874, HSN from 39 to 39 and 875, Jewelry TV from 151 and 868 to 151 and 876, LATV from 166 to 166 and 879, SiTV from 854 to 880, TV Land from 85 and 834 to 85 and 881, Disney XD from 60, 832 and 1913 to 60, 882 and 1913, The N from 137 and 837 to 137 and 883, HTV from 824 to 886, Mun 2 from 126 to 126 and 823, MTV2 from 128 and 860 to 128 and 889, VH1 Classic from 136 and 861 to 136 and 890, CMT from 140 and 862 to 140 and 891, GAC from 141 and 863 to 141 and 892, Cine Latino from 816 to 895, Cine Mexicano from 871 to 896.

In addition, please note the following exceptions to these changes in Mount Vernon:

Galavision will change from 54 to 54 and 812, Disney from 37 and 1906 to 37, 840 and 1906, Food Network from 19 and 1914 to 19, 864 and 1914, QVC from 24 to 24 and 874, HSN from 72 to 72 and 875, jewelry TV from 151 only to 151 and 876 and Disney XD from 62, 832 and 1913 to 62, 882 and 1913. The Net and Shop NBC are not carried in Mount Vernon.

Smithsonian should be a nice addition, not sure why it is part of HDExtra, is it commercial free? I have HDExtra already but that is like paying for the Discovery Channel

So ... let me get things straight here.

We are currently waiting for these new HD channels:

WPXN-DT Ion HD on 731 - delayed because WPXN is still broadcasting at 480i.

WNJU-DT Telemundo HD on 747 - originally scheduled for 4/23/09, now scheduled for 5/1/09.

Smithsonian HD on 789 - scheduled for 5/1/09.

Promised months back but lost in the shuffle: Chiller HD on 684, Nick HD on 706, Lifetime HD on 712, Spike HD on 736, HSN HD on 739, Africa Channel HD on 787.

MLB Extra Innings package on all channels are blank 431-445 anyone else have the same problem..

So ... let me get things straight here.

We are currently waiting for these new HD channels:

WPXN-DT Ion HD on 731 - delayed because WPXN is still broadcasting at 480i.

WNJU-DT Telemundo HD on 747 - originally scheduled for 4/23/09, now scheduled for 5/1/09.

Smithsonian HD on 789 - scheduled for 5/1/09.

Promised months back but lost in the shuffle: Chiller HD on 684, Nick HD on 706, Lifetime HD on 712, Spike HD on 736, HSN HD on 739, Africa Channel HD on 787.

All those channels are currently in the TWC lab of High Def, I mean High compression. (lol). Seriously I talked with a guy that works in tech at TWC, and he told me that those channels will arrive by the end of June alone with MSNBC HD. Oh one final note, the company is trying to get the business attractive, because it will be put on sales at some point. They don't have the resources to upgrades their system ,so they can compete with FIOS. They know that Verizon will crush them in the long term.

Not to mention all of the Viacom HDs.

All those channels are currently in the TWC lab of High Def, I mean High compression. (lol). Seriously I talked with a guy that works in tech at TWC, and he told me that those channels will arrive by the end of June alone with MSNBC HD. Oh one final note, the company is trying to get the business attractive, because it will be put on sales at some point. They don't have the resources to upgrades their system ,so they can compete with FIOS. They know that Verizon will crush them in the long term.

I have been thinking this was the idea for some time. To buy themselves out of Time Warner Inc. cost the cable company roughly 9.25 billion. I would not be surprised of Comcast buys TWC out at some point. I cannot see Cablevision doing this without setting off alarms of monopolization.

I checked out Verizon FIOS a couple of weeks ago in my friends home in Staten Island and that is one amazing product. The picture is so clear on a similar model HDTV to my own.

Their Road Runner division here in NYC is a disaster with speeds so low that they could not compete with some DSL providers in their area.

I live in an apartment building with two cable providers, both TWC and RCN. The only reason why I do not change over to RCN is that to this day they still do not carry MSG in HD.

I still hope to see FIOS sometime soon here in my area of Queens to end this TV nightmare.

Smithsonian should be a nice addition, not sure why it is part of HDExtra, is it commercial free? I have HDExtra already but that is like paying for the Discovery Channel

Been an HDXtra customer since a long time. Was pissed a lot of the time as we kept loosing channels and getting nothing in return (as a HD speciality package, adding a bunch of SD sports channels is no consolation). Kinda resolved myself to paying the price JUST for HDNets... which one could argue was well worth the 5 bucks/month.

NOW, we have a pretty decent deal in HDXtra... 2 HDnets, MGM, and now Smithsonian.

Their Road Runner division here in NYC is a disaster with speeds so low that they could not compete with some DSL providers in their area.

That statement is far too sweeping, as this hasn't been my experience at all.

In East Midtown I get a consistent 10,000 kbps on Roadrunner, with burst speeds up to 16,000 kbps.

A_C

Is IFCHD always stretched? I recorded a few movies and they seem stretched even with bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Not 4:3 stretched.

That statement is far too sweeping, as this hasn't been my experience at all.

In East Midtown I get a consistent 10,000 kbps on Roadrunner, with burst speeds up to 16,000 kbps.

A_C

I should have not been so broad in my statement and will stick to my area of Queens where the complaints are supported by the Broadband Reports forum with its own thread.

At night in Queens, most users around 8pm will not get over 1-2Mbps on a 10Mbps account. This has been ongoing for a couple of years. Powerboost is no help to us because it is boosting nothing near what the user pays for. The nodes are overloaded and multiple complaints to the DoITT have only resulted in returned phone calls from TWC and no improvement.

I am still considering switching to RCN, but no MSG in HD is a killer for me.

I, like a lot of Queens residents from the Broadband Reports thread are just hoping to be saved by Verizon once FIOS is set up in their neighborhoods.

You know, the picture quality seems to have improved....atleast last night anyway.

Yes I'm having the same problem in Chelsea.

MLB Extra Innings package on all channels are blank 431-445 anyone else have the same problem..
Yes Im having the same problem.

Notice that G4 on channel 692 is finally being shown in widescreen.

That statement is far too sweeping, as this hasn't been my experience at all.

In East Midtown I get a consistent 10,000 kbps on Roadrunner, with burst speeds up to 16,000 kbps.

A_C
Lower manhattan is affected too.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21149169-TWC-NYC-Slow-Speeds-Part-2

You're lucky to live in an area with not much congestion.

On another note, does anyone else think the $16.95/month for the new TVB1 channel is a ripoff? I was expecting it to be priced lower in line with the other International channels.

MLB Extra Innings package on all channels are blank 431-445 anyone else have the same problem..

channels are back..

What happened to the music channels (648 = opera in nyc)? They seem to be all gone (NOT AVAILABLE).

On April 15, the music channels were reorganized. The least popular channels (I don't know who decided that) were dropped and a few were added.

Cynthia

Is IFCHD always stretched? I recorded a few movies and they seem stretched even with bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Not 4:3 stretched.

Yes, it seems that IFC-HD is nearly always stretched. I started a thread about this on the main HDTV Programming thread.

On extremely rare occasions there is some ACTUAL HD content there -- in particular, Blue Velvet looked like it was real HD. I think it's worth checking in on the channel and noting if any real (non-stretched) HD comes up...

Weird, we talked about this a bit before... I guess I need to visit IFC more often, out of half a dozen times I checked, I found at least 4 that seemed not to be stretched.

There is NO FRAKKING EXCUSE for stretch-o-vision!

When I try to access a program [been trying HBO onDemand, as well as HD Showcase], I get "is unavailable at this time, Please try later". Sometimes I get an error 106. Tried rebooting, but doesn't help. Anyone else experiencing problem? Anyone knows of solution would save me a call to the TWC idiots. btw, I have the 8300HDC unit. Thanks!