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fbrito

11-29-06, 05:56 PM

I'm in Fullerton we changed over on Nov 21, and I called TW to get the HD plus tier added. i was told they cant do it now, call back in month or two. our cable internet has been delayed till after new years still on adelphia powerlink, we were to get roadrunner on Nov 8th but they sent email saying change over was delayed. I did change tiers on some other things to, added movie tier and changed some of my plans they gave me six months free on two tiers and my bill went down from $129.00 a month to about $98.50 with internet access as well as HD cable and extra tiers. shame about HD plus tier I'm still only getting HD basic tier thats abc, cbs, nbc, fox, kcet, TNT-HD, Discover-HD, all other HD channels say to sign up for the service message.

402 cbs
404 abc
407 nbc
411 fox
412 kcet
413 not sure what this one is its always test pattern
415 TNT
416 Discovery

I too live in fullerton but had a different experience. I called and was able to add the HD tier to my package (this was on monday 11/27). What I was not able to do is get a different box (I wanted the 6416 with the bigger hdd). They told me the same thing that the person from Diamond Bar above was told. If you want the HD tier, I would call again, you probably had an incompentent CSR person.

BTW, some of the other posts say 413 is supposed to be FSN HD on occasion, I have not noticed any programming on it yet, but will check it out this weekend when the Cal vs Stanford game is scheduled to be in HD.

Finally, for any bRUIN fans on here, GO TROJANS!

Adelmoxi

11-29-06, 08:49 PM

My Moxi has been repeatedly crashing and restarting, now has no channel info or guide info. Called TWI, they are sending a replacement on Thursday. I've read that the Moxi is being replaced by the Moto 6400 series, so I don't know what box to expect.

Has anyone in Ventura County (Camarillo) had a new DVR installed lately? What are they using now?

Too bad our Verizon FIOS isn't activated yet. The install is done, but we still can't order.

That SUCKS that they are replacing the MOXI's Huh? TWC is replacing the BMC with the Motorola 6416's. on the plus side it has a wapping 160 GIG hdd from the BMC's 80. I had mine replace a month ago here in Oxnard. The 6416 also has an active HDMI port(if you have an HDTV and HD service that's a plus). On the downside the 6400's use iGuide but is soon to be replaced by TW Navigator with iTV features. Hope that answers your question

NOTE: there is an attached comparison chart I got from the technicain when he arrived. I think it is kinda baist though..

wtu311

11-29-06, 09:28 PM

I too live in fullerton but had a different experience. I called and was able to add the HD tier to my package (this was on monday 11/27). What I was not able to do is get a different box (I wanted the 6416 with the bigger hdd). They told me the same thing that the person from Diamond Bar above was told. If you want the HD tier, I would call again, you probably had an incompentent CSR person.

BTW, some of the other posts say 413 is supposed to be FSN HD on occasion, I have not noticed any programming on it yet, but will check it out this weekend when the Cal vs Stanford game is scheduled to be in HD.

Finally, for any bRUIN fans on here, GO TROJANS!

Im in Fullerton as well and each time ive called (last time sunday) they said the hdnet etc are not available, You recieve all the new HD channels?

fbrito

11-29-06, 09:42 PM

Im in Fullerton as well and each time ive called (last time sunday) they said the hdnet etc are not available, You recieve all the new HD channels?

Don't know what to tell. I previously had the hdbasic package. When I saw that they took away ESPN HD and had to watch it in regular, I upgraded before this past monday's game. I now have the ones from before plus HDNET, HDNET movies, Universal HD, INHD, ESPNHD, 413 special events (nothing up). This is off the top of my head, there might be one or two others. I do not have, unfortunetely, KTLA-HD or ESPN2HD as others have reported outside of our area.

On a slight tangent, does anyone know if the dvi port on the moxi is active? Thank you.

kenwebb

11-30-06, 12:12 AM

i tired DVI port (DVI to HDMI cable) on my box but kept getting an error message on my TV something about HDMI HDCP protection error. I gave up, an now just use RGB cables + digital audio from box to TV

RudyG

11-30-06, 01:05 AM

kenwebb

11-30-06, 03:37 AM

HD in 900 range is old adelphia channel linup maybe TW has not changed your area over yet

RudyG

11-30-06, 03:46 AM

HD in 900 range is old adelphia channel linup maybe TW has not changed your area over yet

With the Cable Card or the Set Top Box?

Rudy

scbajmr

11-30-06, 12:50 PM

[QUOTE=fbrito]Don't know what to tell. I previously had the hdbasic package. When I saw that they took away ESPN HD and had to watch it in regular, I upgraded before this past monday's game. I now have the ones from before plus HDNET, HDNET movies, Universal HD, INHD, ESPNHD, 413 special events (nothing up). This is off the top of my head, there might be one or two others. I do not have, unfortunetely, KTLA-HD or ESPN2HD as others have reported outside of our area.

fbrito,

What part of fullerton do you live in? I'm up near Bastenchury and Brea Blvd and have not had any luck getting CS to do anything for the HD Tier.

fbrito

11-30-06, 02:29 PM

dagware

11-30-06, 03:17 PM

On a slight tangent, does anyone know if the dvi port on the moxi is active? Thank you.
Check out this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=412846). Also, check the FAQ at this link (http://splmoxifaq.googlepages.com/FAQ.htm).

-Dan

firebird400

11-30-06, 03:24 PM

Hmmm....I'm in Fullerton near Euclid and Malvern/Chapman and when I called on 11/22 to add the HD tier I was told that the billing codes aren't active for my area yet. I'm *assuming* that they will get activated on 12/1 since that's when *supposedly* the new pricing structure for Fullerton is supposed to take place.

Also, I had 431 listed in the channel guide for a bit but then it disappeared after a few days. Still have 413 listed as a HD PPV channel but I guess I'm supposed to pay to watch HD color bars? I was thinking of toying with my MOXI to see if I can get it to connect to another city. (I saw the tech do the "back/next/back/next" remote control thing and saw the city channel list selection.)

pyser

11-30-06, 03:42 PM

so, this is kind of shocking.

i had TW come out today to fix my On Demand problems on the moto box (which is well documented that i hate it), and to my utter shock, he showed up with a MOXI.

he went on to say that they've been ordered to put MOXI's back, INSTEAD of the moto. so apparently, according to this guy, if you call up with a problem and they send someone out, expect a MOXI instead of a moto.

anyone else seeing this?

I'm in Silver Lake.

boyjohn

11-30-06, 04:15 PM

I went to my local office here in Diamond Bar and they told me that more 6416's are on order and should be available sometime in January. They put me on a waiting list (hand written, lol).

RudyG

11-30-06, 05:19 PM

Got my cable card put in yesterday. Have been trying to find FSN-HD. Channels 413 and 431 are both audio only radio stations. And I don't see any channel with a test pattern on it. My HD channels are in the 900+ range. Like 902 is CBS, 904 is NBC, 907 ABC, 911 is fox and 928 is KCET etc

Anyone have any idea what channel it might be on?

Thanks.
Rudy

Well just got off the phone with Customer Service and was told that I cannot have any Pay Per View channels with a cable card. I must rent the Cable Box. Boy I would love to hear someone confirm or deny this. Anyone else using a cable card? eriv16 does this sound right?

Thanks to all in advance.
Rudy

dagware

11-30-06, 05:38 PM

Well just got off the phone with Customer Service and was told that I cannot have any Pay Per View channels with a cable card. I must rent the Cable Box. Boy I would love to hear someone confirm or deny this. Anyone else using a cable card? eriv16 does this sound right?

Thanks to all in advance.
Rudy
It's well-documented that you can't have pay-per-view with the current generation of cable cards. As I understand it (and I might have this part wrong), it has something to do with needing 2-way communication, which the current generation of cable cards doesn't support.

-Dan

fbrito

11-30-06, 06:59 PM

RudyG

11-30-06, 07:55 PM

It's well-documented that you can't have pay-per-view with the current generation of cable cards. As I understand it (and I might have this part wrong), it has something to do with needing 2-way communication, which the current generation of cable cards doesn't support.

-Dan

Thanks Dan. I didn't see this covered in this thread, so thanks for letting me know.

Rudy

scbajmr

11-30-06, 09:27 PM

Maybe since I'm closer to placentia that is the difference? Don't know if it makes a difference but when I called I cancelled my HBO subcription and doing so caused me to have to choose a TW package, which was my intention anyhow. I had the Adelphia package before hand.

That is what I was thinking as well. When I talked to the rep she said the Fullerton area equipment needed to be upgraded before the HD tier would be available. When I asked when that would be she said it could be two weeks or two months or longer. I then sent an email to TW asking the same question and got a response stating that HD was available in my area and a link to the channel guide. *sigh*

I'm starting to consider Dish Network, as TW hasn't impressed me so far with their service.

Adelmoxi

11-30-06, 09:59 PM

bgooch

11-30-06, 11:11 PM

RudyG

12-01-06, 12:50 AM

excerpt:

For now, CableCARD is one-way only, meaning that some services can only be provided through a cable company-provided set-top box:

* Pay-Per-View
* Interactive Program Guides (most manufacturers compensate by providing their own)
* On-Demand with iControl (TWC) or Similar Services
* Season Sports Packages (like the NBA League Pass)
* Interactive and Enhanced TV Services (like games, interactive news, etc.)

CableCARDs - A Primer (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/CableCARDprimer.php)

Thanks bgooch.

If only TWC didn't show FSN-HD on HD PPV, I wouldn't care about those other services much. What a freak and unfortunate coincidence. Oh well. The only reason I signed up for HD Tier is to see the LA Kings broadcasts in HD,which appears to happen only once a month. So now I have to decide whether it is worth it to me to pay $14 a month extra for a single game of hockey in HD. :(

I think I'm going to cancle the HD tier and use that money to see them live.

Rudy

DwnLow91

12-01-06, 12:52 AM

should we be worried?

DwnLow91

12-01-06, 12:54 AM

Do new television sets have slots for cable cards? sorry but I don't know if my set has one. I don't see a slot for one, but instruction manaul states to request one from local cable company.

pyser

12-01-06, 03:27 AM

Was it the 9012 or 9022D's? I like Moxi's but only if they have the 9022D's or software updates beyond what Adelphia put on their

i cant find any markings on the box at all, so im assuming its a 9012. but how can i check for sure?

and what new software should i be looking for?

RudyG

12-01-06, 04:53 AM

Do new television sets have slots for cable cards? sorry but I don't know if my set has one. I don't see a slot for one, but instruction manaul states to request one from local cable company.

A cable card is essentially a PCMCIA card or CARDBUS card. Just like the one that goes into your laptop. My TV Manual shows the slot and I can locate it in the side of my television set. My TV is Sony KDSR50XBR1. I think it is still a farely rare feature on a TV Set.

Rudy

joe221

12-01-06, 11:54 AM

It's well-documented that you can't have pay-per-view with the current generation of cable cards. As I understand it (and I might have this part wrong), it has something to do with needing 2-way communication, which the current generation of cable cards doesn't support.

-Dan

Not to mention the TV has to support CC2 and most current don't. I say most as some "may" but I doubt it. Wouldn't it had been nice if ALL the intelligence was in the card so a card update was all that was needed! :(

Arvy

12-01-06, 11:57 AM

The HDTV Recorders forum isn't specific to SoCal TWC so I'm asking here what is the consensus to having the firewire ports active.

My first 6416 had one of the two ports enabled and I was happily transferring unencrypted channel programs both live and recorded to a PC. Then something happened... it didn't work anymore. I've had two replacement boxes sent out neither of which had active ports. TWC locally and through the call center tell me none of the boxes are firewire enabled. When I complained they must be, the reply was they don't know when or if at any time. I don't want the hassle of scheduling an appointment to try each and every box in their warehouse and so have given up. Is anyone's IEEE 1394 ports open?

One more question here... in the diagnostics menu of the 6416 in d11 there's a reading for IEEE 1394 I/O. Mine is set to zero. Does this mean that zero of the two ports are activated? I'm asking to determine once and for all if the problem is with my STB or PC. TIA

joe221

12-01-06, 12:56 PM

bgooch

12-01-06, 01:47 PM

Adelphia Transition 'Victims' Sue
Posted on 2006-11-29 09:10:51 by Karl

There's plenty of customers who have had a rough ride being shuttled between cable broadband providers as the Adelphia, Comcast and Time Warner Cable transition unfolded. Broadbandreports.com (ed) forums are filled with stories about significant outages and administrative disconnects that occurred early on. The game of network musical chairs has also left many of our regulars complaining that they aren't seeing the speeds and functionality they're used to.

Some 8Mbps/768kbps Comcast customers in our forums are annoyed that they're now seeing slower upload speeds of 8Mbps/512kbps. They're also complaining that Time Warner lacks Comcast's proprietary powerboost technology, which gives users a little extra bandwidth boost.

It's inevitable that a network swap of this magnitude doesn't occur without some headaches (TWC nabbed 1.6 million new subscribers alone). In Los Angeles, the company had to integrate 69 cable hubs, 16 cable headends and 30,000 miles of plant spread over a five-county area.

click here for more (http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/79936)

greinstein

12-01-06, 01:56 PM

That is what I was thinking as well. When I talked to the rep she said the Fullerton area equipment needed to be upgraded before the HD tier would be available. When I asked when that would be she said it could be two weeks or two months or longer. I then sent an email to TW asking the same question and got a response stating that HD was available in my area and a link to the channel guide. *sigh*

I'm starting to consider Dish Network, as TW hasn't impressed me so far with their service.
I visited the Seal Beach office of TW yesterday to upgrade to the HD package coming with the channel realignment, and was told by the rep (who has been honest and accurate in the past) that there will be no new HD channels with the realignment due to bandwidth capacity.

She said the upgraded bandwidth expansion is planned to take place first quarter 07.

She also said the channel realignment will happen this Tuesday--not the 14th as shown on the webpage.

joe221

12-01-06, 03:32 PM

We had a 15 minute or so outage of a cluster but not all cable channels today at about 11:30AM. Fun. Channel 45 and below but not the locals. This same thing happened either yesterday or the day before, I forgot.

Adelmoxi

12-01-06, 03:39 PM

i cant find any markings on the box at all, so im assuming its a 9012. but how can i check for sure?

and what new software should i be looking for?

neither of the boxes have markings. the only physical indication of difference between the two models is a button labeled EJECT on the front pannel(that button is for the 9022D's CD/DVD drive(if there is one button(again, on the front pannel) that is not labeled it is a 9012D.

For software differences you will be only be able to tell through MOXI'S menu system(there will be new tabs such as: Games Services messages etc.)

Thanks just curious

joe221

12-01-06, 03:44 PM

dagware

12-01-06, 04:43 PM

Pop! Just went out again 12:40PM
Taking the day off today? :D

-Dan

pyser

12-01-06, 06:10 PM

neither of the boxes have markings. the only physical indication of difference between the two models is a button labeled EJECT on the front pannel(that button is for the 9022D's CD/DVD drive(if there is one button(again, on the front pannel) that is not labeled it is a 9012D.

For software differences you will be only be able to tell through MOXI'S menu system(there will be new tabs such as: Games Services messages etc.)

Thanks just curious

its a 9012 then.

pyser

12-02-06, 03:42 PM

also, anyone else notice that since the channel switchover, mtv2's lineup info is a full 3 hours off? i think we get the east coast grid, which messes up all info and recordings on the channel.

grrrr.

joe221

12-02-06, 05:14 PM

Taking the day off today? :D

-Dan

Remember, I said, "again". ;) :D

Mogur2

12-03-06, 05:16 PM

Hi,
I have a new TV (Sharp 52 HD), and would like to change codes on the Motorola controller. Where can I find codes for TV, DVD player, etc. for the controller

Adelmoxi

12-03-06, 08:13 PM

Hi,
I have a new TV (Sharp 52 HD), and would like to change codes on the Motorola controller. Where can I find codes for TV, DVD player, etc. for the controller

If you have a Motorola DCT 6416(Time Warner Cables HD-DVR) here is a link where you can look up the codes for the remote the technicain may have supplied you with: http://www.ezremote.com/setupcodehelp/urcsupport/InfoPage.php

pappy97

12-04-06, 02:36 PM

Your assistance is needed in the following thread of HDTV programming:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=762169&page=2

The guy has TWC in Ventura (I assume it is the same as most of LA's TWC service) and he is "dissing" the HD, saying that he can't tell the difference between HD and SD. Since you all are the experts on HD PQ via TWC in this area, I am hoping you might check out the thread linked above and comment. Thanks!!

Mogur2

12-05-06, 12:23 PM

Thanks, the url you listed did not work but I modified it to;
http://www.ezremote.com/setupcodehelp/urcsupport/CableRemote.htm

and this worked.

The site is frustrating in that it only gives one code at a time. Does anyone know where I can find a list? My previous experience is that the first code usually does not work.

If you have a Motorola DCT 6416(Time Warner Cables HD-DVR) here is a link where you can look up the codes for the remote the technicain may have supplied you with: http://www.ezremote.com/setupcodehelp/urcsupport/InfoPage.php

bgooch

12-06-06, 11:27 AM

It's laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.

During Christmas vacation a couple of years ago after numerous trouble tickets had been unresolved an Adelphia technician removed a Moxi DVR from my residence. Many of you are all too familiar with Moxi’s ills. Moxi couldn't send data upstream. Without dual channel communication Moxi's program guide wasn't updated. Adelphia had dispatched a van to my neighborhood filled with enough electronic hardware to monitor every frequency under the sun. Repeatedly I was promised the problem would be fixed and the Moxi returned. It never happened.

A few days ago a TWC lineman was working across the street. I asked if the problem had been fixed? He had just corrected something down the block but data was still not moving upstream. He said he will let me know when the problem is fixed.

I'm happy I bought TiVo with lifetime service.

bgooch

bruce73

12-06-06, 12:15 PM

During Christmas vacation a couple of years ago after numerous trouble tickets had been unresolved an Adelphia technician removed a Moxi DVR from my residence. Many of you are all too familiar with Moxi’s ills. Moxi couldn't send data upstream. Without dual channel communication Moxi's program guide wasn't updated. Adelphia had dispatched a van to my neighborhood filled with enough electronic hardware to monitor every frequency under the sun. Repeatedly I was promised the problem would be fixed and the Moxi returned. It never happened.
Reminds me of my own experience with MOXI. Same problem, but after 3 service calls with each tech incredibly more clueless than the one before, e-mails with a rep from Diego (sp?) telling me the problem was on the Adelphia headend side (and, off the record, how ill-prepared the techs were to handle MOXI issues), and calls from the field superivsor of my headend finally telling me the lines from my apt. building needed to be upgraded, I gave up. Went Replay for a year, then dived into the deep end with a media PC and haven't looked back. An expensive workaround, to be sure, but I now have a HiDef PVR.

e_e_emarpea

12-06-06, 04:58 PM

I apologize upfront if this has been asked already...

got the new 6416 III moto box and i'm wondering if i am able to expand the hd with an external sata hd. i know they tried it with the 6412 III and from what i understand it did not work.

has anyone got this to work? if so please list what eq. you used.

thanks alot.

riddim

12-06-06, 05:30 PM

Two quick questions:

1 On what channel #s will I find the local HDTV broadcasts (for ABC, NBC, CBS, any others). If this is already listed elsewhere, please give me the link, thanks

2 Will I need an external HD antenna to pick 'em up? I have a new Panasonic plasma that has a built in HD tuner, which has one Antenna (RF) input, and already on the QAM frequencies I'm picking up at least one full 1080 HD station (KCET - glorious!) and a few networks in 720. I can tell cause these look so much better than the same ABC, NBC broadcasts in the normal range, where I have regular cable but not an HD package.
Are those QAM versions the best I can get, or can I get full HD for networks, etc., on other channel numbers, if I get an external VHF/UHF antenna and run another Antenna Auto Scan? Note: I'm in the Ojai Valley, down low, with no great line-of-sight to L.A. or other parts of So.CA, if that's important.

jasonvr

12-06-06, 05:49 PM

SPDICKEY

12-06-06, 07:23 PM

Two quick questions:

1 On what channel #s will I find the local HDTV broadcasts (for ABC, NBC, CBS, any others). If this is already listed elsewhere, please give me the link, thanks

On T-W cable? It differs by head-end location. Do a channel scan with the raw cable plugged into the RF input on the set. It will find the scrambled (which show up black on my set) and unscrambled channels. I see analog 2-78 and 96-99 as well as digital's starting in the 80's a few in the low 90's and the rest above 100. It takes lots of thumb pushing on the remote but I now get, without a STB, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and PBS in HD, along with all the local off airs in SD and a couple of basic cable channels (like Style and CSPAN). For example KNBCHD comes in on QAM channel 94-1.

taconugget

12-07-06, 03:22 AM

Is anyone in the Eagle Rock Socal TW area having problems with their Cable internet Connection??? Mine has stopped working...

bgooch

12-07-06, 07:14 AM

Frustrated With Time Warner Cable? So Is the City of Santa Clarita

Commentary by Darren Hernandez
"LIVE" From City Hall
Thursday December 7, 2006

In recent weeks, residents throughout Santa Clarita have contacted the city to express frustration with the level of customer service they are receiving from their cable operator, Time Warner Cable. Like the majority of residents in the community, the entire City Council and our staff are equally frustrated by the unacceptable level of service currently being provided by Time Warner.

As the cable television administrator for our community, we would like to take this opportunity both to share information that better explains our role in managing cable service, and to tell you what actions we have taken to open the door for additional, competitive television services.

In August of this year, Time Warner assumed responsibility for all cable services in Santa Clarita. The consolidation of customers who previously contracted with Comcast for their cable service was the result of a corporate transaction in excess of $13 billion approved by various agencies and courts at the federal level.

The consolidation of all cable television services under Time Warner in Santa Clarita occurred without the Santa Clarita City Council's formal approval, and in spite of legal efforts to prevent this action from occurring.

Frustrating as it may sound, the fact is, under current federal law, the city of Santa Clarita does not have any legal ability to dictate what Time Warner charges for its services or how it sets its channel lineup. In fact, as currently written, federal law allows all cable providers to operate in a deregulated manner when it comes to issues not only concerning pricing, programming or channel lineup, but also in the area of Internet services.

The city, within our role as franchise administrator, ensures that the public roadways that cable operators in essence "rent" to store their fiber lines are maintained in a good state of repair.

We also advocate for stronger and more robust public, educational and government programming on SCVTV Channel 20. The city and Time Warner currently partner to produce valuable community programming that includes City Council and Planning Commission meetings, distance learning programming made available by College of the Canyons, and programs of interest such as "Newsmaker of the Week."

The city also has the responsibility of representing the interests of residents in areas of customer service and responsiveness by cable operators to subscribers' needs.

City staff members continue to individually respond to the hundreds of calls and letters received from residents, and serve as facilitators to help residents and Time Warner resolve service issues.

The City Council has and will continue to aggressively hold Time Warner accountable for providing a level of customer service that is consistent with the high level of service provided to residents by the city.

The availability of competitive services is a value for our community. The city advocates that residents benefit when they have multiple service providers available to choose among.

As a result, in July 2006, the City Council executed a Public Benefits Agreement with AT&T which authorizes the company to make competitive television service available to the residents of our community. It is the city's understanding that AT&T will begin offering television services to approximately 60 percent of Santa Clarita (roughly 30,000 homes) in early 2007.

The city appreciates the opportunity to let you know what is happening with regard to cable television and to explain our role as the cable television administrator, while informing residents what steps we have taken to ensure competitive television service.

While we are frustrated with the disappointing service interruptions and inexcusable customer service provided by Time Warner, we will continue to serve as a liaison between residents and Time Warner in an effort to solve service issues and hold Time Warner accountable to the residents of Santa Clarita.

Darren Hernandez is the director of administrative services for the city of Santa Clarita. His column reflects the city's views, and not necessarily those of The Signal.

http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=34887&format=html

Arvy

12-07-06, 06:45 PM

Is anyone in the Eagle Rock Socal TW area having problems with their Cable internet Connection??? Mine has stopped working...

They are migrating from Adelphia to RoadRunner. As former A* customer, I received a flyer in snail mail abut it - Dec. 5-8. My connection was down for two days before power cycling a router and realizing my IP address and DNS servers were changed and adjusting them in 3 PCs. This may hold for Comcast customers, too.

bruce73

12-07-06, 07:39 PM

Is anyone in the Eagle Rock Socal TW area having problems with their Cable internet Connection??? Mine has stopped working...
Yes. Connection was down briefly Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, both times no longer than 10 min. max. Received the announcement in the mail yesterday explaining it was the transition to Road Runner. Everything has been back to normal today.

jasonvr

12-07-06, 08:01 PM

Yes. Connection was down briefly Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, both times no longer than 10 min. max. Received the announcement in the mail yesterday explaining it was the transition to Road Runner. Everything has been back to normal today.

I love the fact that we received the notice about the updated transition dates several days into the transition period.... I had to restart my cable modem and router once since I received the flier, and come to think of it, the IP did look different.

bruce73

12-07-06, 11:05 PM

I love the fact that we received the notice about the updated transition dates several days into the transition period.... I had to restart my cable modem and router once since I received the flier, and come to think of it, the IP did look different.
Actually I was amazed that I received it on the 12/6 and the transition dates scheduled were 12/4-12/7. That was considerably better than the last notice I received sometime near the end of October dated 9/1/06! :D

taconugget

12-07-06, 11:09 PM

jasonvr

12-07-06, 11:16 PM

I know it's been said before and discussed before, but TWC's prices stink. I called tonight, curious what my pricing would be like if I changed over to their pricing structure (from Adelphia). For reference, I currently have the Ultimate Advantage pack (all premiums, digital, etc), Moxi box (and requisite DVR service), the HD Plus Tier, and HSI. This totals to $148.85.

My call to TWC resulted in this option:
Digital Cable Extreme - $104.95
HD DVR Equipment - $13.90 (same as now)
HSI - $39.95

This totals to $158.80 ($10 more than right now). She did offer a promotion for HSI for $29.95 for 12 months. That would make my bill a grand total of $0.05 cheaper!! WoooHooo! Of course that's only for 12 months, at which point it would go up.

I made sure I was under no obligation to switch and she said yes, for the time being. She the proceeded to tell me that they would be switching people over to the TWC pricing plan over the next few months anyways! Grr!!!

So, in the near future, I will get the "privilege" of paying $10 more per month for worse customer service, which I thought was imposible after having Adelphia.

Ok, gripe over, we now return you to your regularly scheduled program

jasonvr

12-07-06, 11:27 PM

Well this is day two of no TW Internet access for me in the Eagle Rock location. Has everone else gotten back to their normal routine, and its just me or are other having problems as well??? Should I bother caling Time Warner so I can sit on hold for 2 hours or should I just wait it out...

I take it you have reset your modem and your router, correct? I had to reset both when my service went out a couple of days ago, but it did come back almost immediately afterwards with a RR.com address.

bruce73

12-08-06, 12:05 AM

I take it you have reset your modem and your router, correct? I had to reset both when my service went out a couple of days ago, but it did come back almost immediately afterwards with a RR.com address.
I've noticed this as well. But, whereas before all this my connection speed was always at a steady 4.4 Mpbs, it now drops dramatically in the evening to 1.2 - 2.5 Mpbs. :mad:

taconugget

12-08-06, 01:32 AM

yup, I reset my router and my modem. still no love... anyone else have any ideas???

Arvy

12-08-06, 10:51 AM

yup, I reset my router and my modem. still no love... anyone else have any ideas???

What got my connection back was changing the DNS server octets to reflect a new DHCP IP address in addition to resetting the router. If that doesn't work for you, call TWC.

Arvy

12-08-06, 11:00 AM

I've noticed this as well. But, whereas before all this my connection speed was always at a steady 4.4 Mpbs, it now drops dramatically in the evening to 1.2 - 2.5 Mpbs. :mad:

I noticed a speed drop as well. Most downloads were going at 4.4 Mpbs, too [which is close to 600Kbps]. I think they scaled back and capped downstream at the advertised speed for 'regular HSO' because downloads only go up to 3.8 MPbs now. There is an option available to receive higher speeds for $10 more/mo.

Just a guess, but speeds drop in the evening because folks come home from work and cruise the Internet which sort of clogs the pipes. I could be wrong, but conspiracy theories aren't my gig.

dagware

12-08-06, 11:32 AM

What got my connection back was changing the DNS server octets to reflect a new DHCP IP address in addition to resetting the router. If that doesn't work for you, call TWC.
When my connection didn't work on one of my computers, but did on another, I discovered that the one that didn't work had hard-coded DNS IP addresses in it. I removed these and everything is fine -- I didn't even have to reset my router.

I can't remember why I hard-coded the DNS servers before, but it works fine now without them. TW should have warned people before they took those DNS servers down.

-Dan

bruce73

12-08-06, 12:50 PM

Just a guess, but speeds drop in the evening because folks come home from work and cruise the Internet which sort of clogs the pipes. I could be wrong, but conspiracy theories aren't my gig.
:D That's true in theory, i.e. more folks online, sharing bandwidth, will cause the drop. But never saw that with Adelphia. And, AFAIK, my neighborhood was only serviced by Adelphia prior to the changeover, so the # of people should have remained the same. Just one of those things that make you wanna go "Hmmm..." :rolleyes:

gotmoxi

12-08-06, 02:18 PM

jasonvr

12-08-06, 02:20 PM

yarrumc

12-08-06, 08:42 PM

My Internet service has been down since 8pm Tuesday night. I keep power cycling every few hours but no sync light as of 11am Friday. I got the flyer yesterday that the service will be out the 12/4-12/7. I am still on hold (1.5 hours at this point).

I have not experienced this, but my latency and packet loss has been horrible the last few days. Download speeds are all over the place, even with pausing, which indicates a lot of packet loss. Anyways, I am sure we are a bit off topic for this thread.

Adelmoxi

12-08-06, 09:13 PM

Has anybody heard anything about TW Navigator on Motorola boxes. I've just read articles stating the collaboration between OpenTv and TWC. I've also been to the TWC Navigator thread but all the members have SA's . Anything new?

riddim

12-09-06, 12:58 AM

On T-W cable? It differs by head-end location. Do a channel scan with the raw cable plugged into the RF input on the set. It will find the scrambled (which show up black on my set) and unscrambled channels. I see analog 2-78 and 96-99 as well as digital's starting in the 80's a few in the low 90's and the rest above 100. It takes lots of thumb pushing on the remote but I now get, without a STB, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and PBS in HD, along with all the local off airs in SD and a couple of basic cable channels (like Style and CSPAN). For example KNBCHD comes in on QAM channel 94-1.

I also get analogs thru 78 and KNBC-HD on 94.1.
Plus I'm getting CBS-HD 1080i on channel 101.1.
I'm getting Fox on 100.3, and ABC on 102.2, but don't know if those two can be considered HD because the control pane shows them coming in at 720, not 1080.
The best looking full-1080-HD channel I'm getting is KCET on channel 100.2. Gloriuos, so much clearer it makes me wonder if the others are true HD
So that's my lineup of QAM HD or near-HD channels. In my original question, I was wondering if any other high channel numbers corresponded to free or QAM HD broadcasts. When I thumb through, after a raw RF input scan, my decimal-place QAM channels seem to end at 125, reverting back to whole numbers, and although I haven't checked every single number thru 999, it seems there's nothing more available after 125. Is that true for others in the L.A.-Ventura TWC area?

qwert1515

12-09-06, 01:16 AM

Mogur2

12-09-06, 05:54 AM

riddim

12-09-06, 10:57 AM

I live in Ventura county, all I receive free in HD from QAM are the four network channels, plus KCET, ABC and FOX are both broadcasting in 720p and that is High Defenition. 720p and 1080i are the two main HD formats used.

So it sounds like you're getting the same channels I am...I'm up in Ojai.
Have you searched beyond 125 and found anything HD any higher up?
Also, can you see a noticable difference between the 720 broadcasts and the 1080? To my eyes, the 1080s look more striking & clear...especially KCET

joe221

12-09-06, 01:40 PM

So it sounds like you're getting the same channels I am...I'm up in Ojai.
Have you searched beyond 125 and found anything HD any higher up?
Also, can you see a noticable difference between the 720 broadcasts and the 1080? To my eyes, the 1080s look more striking & clear...especially KCET

It's more that the broadcaster cares about their broadcast. Technically the difference between 720p and 1080i is minimal. BUT, does the broadcaster "multicast" as does KNBC and KABC or do they "singlecast" as does KCBS and KCET, then you have all the bandwidth going to the program you're watching.

Adelmoxi

12-09-06, 01:41 PM

Hi,
My two DVRs from Comcast are about a year old. Both have problems locking up.

After reading about problems I am not sure want the newer boxes but have any of you received new boxes from TW? I live in Santa Clarita.

I still have problems either recorded or live with artifacts or sound loss.

Thanks,

TWC is phasing out the 9012D DVR's(or "MOXI boxes) Adelphia had used. Time Warner is replacing them with the Motorola 6416's(phase III). The Motorola 6416 has a 160 gig HDD and an active HDMI port.

HOPES THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION!

joe221

12-09-06, 02:19 PM

TWC is phasing out the 9012D DVR's(or "MOXI boxes) Adelphia had used. Time Warner is replacing them with the Motorola 6416's(phase III). The Motorola 6416 has a 160 gig HDD and an active HDMI port.

HOPES THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION!

Not so fast...TWC is still implementing MOXI boxes where they ran out of Moto 6416s.
At least for now.

Kracko

12-09-06, 03:25 PM

Technically the difference between 720p and 1080i is minimal.

I disagree: http://www.alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm

qwert1515

12-09-06, 04:42 PM

I have tried to search above channel 125 and I have not found any channels.
For OTA and Cable I like to watch 720p broadcasts for sports, 1080i is nice for talk shows and documentaries. If you watch a 1080i broadcast in near studio quality which has more than twice the bandwidth allocated it looks much clearer than OTA and Cable 1080i, I have seen soccer and football and they look very nice.

riddim

12-09-06, 06:19 PM

I have tried to search above channel 125 and I have not found any channels.

So I guess finding any HD versions of CW network (KTLA), WGN, KCAL, ESPN, CNN, USA, TBS, TNT or Bravo (in the clear) is not happening? OTA doesn't work for me in Ojai, no line-of-sight to towers, so it's gotta be thru the cable/QAM. If anyone knows of any of those networks in clear HD, chime on in

If you watch a 1080i broadcast in near studio quality which has more than twice the bandwidth allocated it looks much clearer than OTA and Cable 1080i, I have seen soccer and football and they look very nice.

And where does one see a near-studio-quality 1080i broadcast, if not thru the Cable or OTA?

Digital Puppy

12-09-06, 07:12 PM

I have not experienced this, but my latency and packet loss has been horrible the last few days. Download speeds are all over the place, even with pausing, which indicates a lot of packet loss. Anyways, I am sure we are a bit off topic for this thread.
I hate to keep the conversation off-topic, but with this switch to TWC, I would recommend everyone calling to confirm their price plans as well as their internet speed packages. I thought my initial switchover went really smooth for both cable TV and high speed internet, but then I started having bad picture problems and outages. I called TWC and they had my account set up wrong...wrong speed tier...wrong HD tier. They had actually been overcharging me.

I'm still having bad connection problems with my internet - lots of lost packets making VPN, streaming music, gaming impossible. Hit up DSL Reports (http://www.dslreports.com) for in-depth internet experiences and help.

Meanwhile, I'd urge everyone to call TWC to confirm their packages

qwert1515

12-09-06, 07:21 PM

[First Post]

Currently Time Warner does not have the rights to broadcast KTLA in HD; I have seen the HD 1080i near-studio-quality broadcasts on free to air satellite.

[Second Post]

Sorry, I should have stated, Areas that were previously Adelphia do not have KTLA HD since Adelphia did not have rights to KTLA HD, If you look on Time Warners Channel line up for Los Angeles (former Adelphia) they do not list KTLA HD, but Los Angeles (former Comcast) does have KTLA HD, they will probably soon add KTLA HD to the areas that were former Adelphia if they accuire the rights for those areas.

Digital Puppy

12-09-06, 08:12 PM

Currently Time Warner does not have the rights to broadcast KTLA in HD; I have seen the HD 1080i near-studio-quality broadcasts on free to air satellite.
Hmm......not so sure about this statement, since my channel 186 is KTLAD. I've seen plenty of shows ("Everybody Hates Chris", Clipper games, etc.) that were in HD on my set - albeit through the Moto 6412.

qwert1515

12-09-06, 09:08 PM

Post moved to my previous post.

RudyG

12-09-06, 10:15 PM

Currently Time Warner does not have the rights to broadcast KTLA in HD; I have seen the HD 1080i near-studio-quality broadcasts on free to air satellite.

I've been curious about this for a while. What kind of equipment are you using to capture and display the signal?

Rudy

bgooch

12-10-06, 12:23 AM

Time Warner Open to Cable Stake Sale
Even Willing to Dilute Ownership Below 50% If Return High Enough
By Mike Farrell 12/11/2006

With an initial public offering of its cable operations slated for next year, Time Warner Inc. chief operating officer Jeff Bewkes said last week the media giant wants to grow its cable footprint — even at the expense of reducing its ownership in Time Warner Cable below 50%.

At the UBS Global Media & Entertainment conference in New York Wednesday (Dec. 6), Bewkes said holding a minority position in the cable unit is not out of the question.

“We don’t have a need or a firm policy that says we have to have 50-plus percent of our cable company,” Bewkes said. “What we care about in our cable company is that it is optimally competitive and the most economically efficient and would drive the highest returns.

“We don’t care what percentage we own, we just care about getting the highest returns,” he added.

Bewkes said reducing that ownership would not happen in 2007. In October, Time Warner Cable filed documents that prepare for its stock to be traded publicly, with about 16% of the company going to creditors of Adelphia Communications and the remaining 84% staying with Time Warner Inc. The initial public offering stems from Time Warner Inc.’s joint purchase of Adelphia in July with Comcast.

As part of the $17.6 billion deal, Time Warner agreed to include a 16% interest in its cable unit.

Time Warner Cable is the second-largest cable company in the country, with about 13.5 million subscribers. And its systems account for more than 40% of Time Warner Inc.’s total cash flow of $7.8 billion a year.

Time Warner Inc. might consider reducing its stake in the cable operations — if it helped the business get larger.

“Judiciously, we would [like to get bigger], but we want to do it with a good return,” Bewkes said. “One advantage — and this is real speculation — is we have been living through a period of fairly lax government regulation on what they used to be worried about, like the old 30% cap on cable territory. It may be, depending on what consolidation comes on offer, that Comcast couldn’t do it, which is good for us and helps the pricing aspect of whatever theoretically that might be.”

Time Warner Cable stock could be used as a deal currency that would help it buy other cable systems, Pali Research analyst Richard Greenfield said.

“Time Warner Cable is not going to make non-cable acquisitions, because that would directly conflict with what the parent company Time Warner is currently doing,” Greenfield said.

Greenfield said first in line would be Cablevision Systems, long a target of Time Warner Cable. The two are the major operators in the largest cable market in the country, New York. Also in line could possibly be Charter Communications systems in Dallas-Fort Worth and Los Angeles.

Greenfield noted that none of these possible deals is imminent. Time Warner would have to wait at least 12 months until after the cable stock is issued to reduce its stake.

“This is a 2008 conversation,” Greenfield said. “But what it means to me is that they will be sellers of Time Warner Cable stock in the future.”

Selling a portion of its cable stake could be a way for Time Warner Inc. to acquire assets, such as an Internet portal like Yahoo; or, bring in cash from another media giant that wants to buy into cable. News Corp., for instance, is close to unloading its only video distribution asset, DirecTV Group, to Liberty Media. But Greenfield said that is not a likely scenario.

Dipping below the 50% ownership mark would mean that Time Warner Inc. could no longer consolidate the cable unit’s cash flow on its balance sheet. While that would mean a big hit to the parent — cable accounted for $3.7 billion in operating income before depreciation and amortization in 2005 and $2.9 billion in the first nine months of 2006 — Greenfield said it would be in line with corporate strategy.

“[Time Warner chairman and CEO] Dick [Parsons] has said on record that both [Time Warner Inc. and Time Warner Cable] need to have separate, independent balance sheets,” Greenfield said. “They’ve started the process. If they want to complete the process, they have to fully separate it over time.”

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6398550.html

qwert1515

12-10-06, 12:39 AM

I've been curious about this for a while. What kind of equipment are you using to capture and display the signal?

Rudy

I am using a 36" satellite dish and a TwinhanDTV TwinHan 102G satellite tuner card for the computer. Soon many STB free to air reviver manufacturers will release a STB that can receive free to air high definition. The only problem is that most free to air satellite broadcasts are temporary and move to different satellites often, so you need a motorized dish to view the feeds regularly.

Mogur2

12-10-06, 09:47 AM

riddim

12-10-06, 01:30 PM

I was wondering how everyone found the quality of all the non-HD stations through TWC's set-top-boxes, and whether one box model gives better picture quality than another.
I have TWCs non-High-Def package, and I have their basic black STB, I think it's model CATV DCT2244, to "digitize" their non-HD channels (2-78). There were so few channels offered in true HD beyond the main networks, and I'm already receiving those free thru my QAM tuner, that I decided to wait till there's much more HD channels before paying extra.
On my new Panny plasma, my STB definitely improves the picture quality of channels 2-78, compared to how they look without it, but the difference is mostly elimination of "noise" and making the picture a little crsiper. Beyond that, the picture still looks just OK, far from ideal. Especially in close ups of people's faces (there's a lot of those), you get that pasty, blotchy look, like they're just a little distorted. And if they move their heads quickly, the distortion momentarily increases like their movements lag behind.
So I wondered what others' experience was with the regular "digital" 480 channels, and whether using later-model stb's make any improvement.

qwert1515

12-10-06, 03:53 PM

Hi,
Here in Santa Clarita I have channel 405 which the HD version of Channel 5. FWIW, when I watch the morning news, while not in HD, the quality is much better than watching other non HD telecasts.

Originally Posted by qwert1515
Currently Time Warner does not have the rights to broadcast KTLA in HD; I have seen the HD 1080i near-studio-quality broadcasts on free to air satellite.

I have now combined my first and second post together to avoid confusions.

I have also watched KTLA HD OTA and the morning news and other programs do look better than the digital KTLA SD I receive from satellite TV.

MoxiGuy

12-10-06, 05:03 PM

Not so fast...TWC is still implementing MOXI boxes where they ran out of Moto 6416s.
At least for now. Hey, Joe, thanks for noticing.

joe221

12-10-06, 09:28 PM

Hey, Joe, thanks for noticing.

Good to see you still care! FWIW there are features I DO miss about the Moxi, but I do like not having to fight to keep more than one program in a series before it erases. Run on!

Mogur2

12-11-06, 12:29 AM

Hi,
I currently have two HD DVR Motorla boxes (6412). One has problems freezing when doing a fast forward or fast reverse. I cannot stop the action 10 seconds to 1 minute.

What is TW offering now in the Los Angeles area? I live in Santa Clarita.

Thanks,

Happy holidays
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braddman

12-11-06, 08:21 AM

Hey guys-

Let me tell you all about my frustrations with TW. I had the Moxi, what can I say, the menus look great, but that's about it. The wonderful and gracious cable company saw fit in the last firmware update to disable the S-VIDEO, Video, and Component output ports when you're using DVI. The best part was when you use DVI it disables the Analog RGB port as well. The awesome thing was mine never came back when I used a DVI cable. So I had no functioning Analog RGB HD port either.
Then they also decided to diable the SVIDEO PORT PERIOD when you're watching HD.

This is most ridiculous and lame thing I have ever seen. This meant when you were watching an HD program (or using a DVI Cable), you couldn't record to a VHS or DVD Recorder.

What the hell is wrong with our cable company?

Next, I got the Motorola 6416, I called and requested it. So I get the thing and of course the menus look like they were designed on a 30 year old computer with MS Paint. The backbreaker is that the damn fan on the bottom is SO loud...and it changes speed all the time...it sounds HORRIBLE....and it's a brand new box.

I haven't tried getting more clearance on the bottom of the DVR but some people have had to turn it upside down to stop the fan noise!

THE ONLY good thing is the increased storage, the firewire ports (which probably don't even work. I haven't tried them.), and the box actually downconverts and displays on all the ports when you're watching HDTV which is great.

Oh and the internet connection went from 550k/sec download speed to 75k/Sec.

Awesome.

There is no navigator on the 6416. The menus suck ass.

Mogur2

12-11-06, 11:05 AM

Hi,
Are you saying that the 6416 has a different menu setup than the 6412?

I notice that you indicated a change download speed 550k/sec download speed to 75k/Sec. Awesome.

Did you mean 750k/sec? Why would the change of the DVR change your download speed?

Hey guys-

Let me tell you all about my frustrations with TW. I had the Moxi, what can I say, the menus look great, but that's about it. The wonderful and gracious cable company saw fit in the last firmware update to disable the S-VIDEO, Video, and Component output ports when you're using DVI. The best part was when you use DVI it disables the Analog RGB port as well. The awesome thing was mine never came back when I used a DVI cable. So I had no functioning Analog RGB HD port either.
Then they also decided to diable the SVIDEO PORT PERIOD when you're watching HD.

This is most ridiculous and lame thing I have ever seen. This meant when you were watching an HD program (or using a DVI Cable), you couldn't record to a VHS or DVD Recorder.

What the hell is wrong with our cable company?

Next, I got the Motorola 6416, I called and requested it. So I get the thing and of course the menus look like they were designed on a 30 year old computer with MS Paint. The backbreaker is that the damn fan on the bottom is SO loud...and it changes speed all the time...it sounds HORRIBLE....and it's a brand new box.

I haven't tried getting more clearance on the bottom of the DVR but some people have had to turn it upside down to stop the fan noise!

THE ONLY good thing is the increased storage, the firewire ports (which probably don't even work. I haven't tried them.), and the box actually downconverts and displays on all the ports when you're watching HDTV which is great.

Oh and the internet connection went from 550k/sec download speed to 75k/Sec.

Awesome.

There is no navigator on the 6416. The menus suck ass.

DSperber

12-11-06, 08:58 PM

Oh and the internet connection went from 550k/sec download speed to 75k/Sec.This seems impossible. I'm assuming your very small numbers are in bytes/sec rather than bits/sec.

That would convert to 4400 kbps before reduced to 600 kbps now. There is no such "entry-level" tier for Internet service that I know of, but I agree with you that if your download speed has fallen off like this something definitely is not set right at the head-end.

Of course the DVR has nothing to do with this, as your cable is split for feeding your cable modem and what hardware is on the DVR leg is irrelevant. So your complaint regards TWC internet service, period.

I'm in what was a Comcast area, and my download speed was previously about 6000 kbps before (sometimes a bit lower, sometimes a bit higher, depending on what and when) and it is the same now even though everything is now going through TWC's servers. I observed no change in performance after the TWC takeover.

DSperber

12-11-06, 09:16 PM

I had the Moxi, what can I say, the menus look great, but that's about it. The wonderful and gracious cable company saw fit in the last firmware update to disable the S-VIDEO, Video, and Component output ports when you're using DVI. The best part was when you use DVI it disables the Analog RGB port as well. The awesome thing was mine never came back when I used a DVI cable. So I had no functioning Analog RGB HD port either.
Then they also decided to diable the SVIDEO PORT PERIOD when you're watching HD.

This is most ridiculous and lame thing I have ever seen. This meant when you were watching an HD program (or using a DVI Cable), you couldn't record to a VHS or DVD Recorder.So you had significant complaints about the Moxi, although you did like its menus and navigation and graphic interface.

Next, I got the Motorola 6416, I called and requested it. So I get the thing and of course the menus look like they were designed on a 30 year old computer with MS Paint.So you have criticisms about the user interface and navigtation system of the Moto 6416, but you like its hard drive capacity which is twice that of the Moxi.

Also, you do like the fact that you CAN record from composite and S-video to non-HD VCR's while viewing HD on component/HDMI. Although you suspect incorrectly that the firewire ports might be inoperative, I assure you that you are wrong. They work perfectly (something the Moxi didn't even have in its hardware design), and you can also be digitially recording HD content via firewire to a D-VHS VCR while you are doing all of those other things named above. In this regard, the 6416 runs rings around the Moxi (and the SA8300 for that matter, which you have not been exposed to so you don't know its strengths and weaknesses, both of which exist).

I would say that EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT of any kind has its pros and cons when compared to a similar piece of equipment provided by another manufacturer, or even another model of similar equipment from the same manufacturer. It is meaningless and naive to believe that all functionally similar boxes should be designed and behave identically. Is a Chevy a Rolls Royce? Is even a Ford the same as a Buick? And yet, they're all cars and you could buy any of them and drive across the country.

Sorry there is no "Navigator" on the 6416 box. However I would say that the iGuide interface does have other features that the Moxi interface does not have, and that I'm quite satisfied with... namely, they DO fulfill my functional requirements in a DVR. And I would NOT be able to do them on the Moxi.

The backbreaker is that the damn fan on the bottom is SO loud...and it changes speed all the time...it sounds HORRIBLE....and it's a brand new box.Don't know anything about this problem. Perhaps Motorola added an additional or larger fan to avoid overheating (with the larger hard drive), since my older 6412-II is essentially silent. I'm not even sure there is a fan in the box, though I do know there are plenty of ventilation slots that I do not obstruct.

In any case, with my 6412-II you cannot even tell that it is on. It's essentially silent (other than some occasional clicking, from hard drive writing, if I put my ear right next to the box to listen for anything).

I haven't tried getting more clearance on the bottom of the DVR but some people have had to turn it upside down to stop the fan noise!Actually, I have my 6412-II standing vertically on its edge on the floor right next to an equipment cabinet because I have no more open shelves in the rack. Top of the DVR (with its plenty of ventilation slots) is facing out (i.e. to the right horizontally, away from the vertical legs of the cabinet). There are also ventilation slots on each of the small left (now the "top") and right side edges of the DVR, so I have no problem with overheating.

But again, I have no audible fan noise or other sound from the box. Silent.

DSperber

12-11-06, 11:54 PM

Ok, tonight's the night for us "former Comcast in Marina Del Rey" folks.

I called TWC and got through in under 30 seconds. Of course I pressed the menu buttons for "add/upgrade service" and not "technical support", but in any case I found myself talking to a very pleasant and well trained CSR.

In response to my questions she said that indeed, midnight tonight is still planned as the cutover for the new channel lineup in my area. And yes, I could ditch my Comcast "legacy" programming/pricing now and go to a new TWC tiered service arrangement, even before midnight tonight.

I requested just that. No more "Digital Platinum" ($44.95) and Howard Stern ($13.99 - $4.00 discount for one year) and HD-DVR ($9.95) from Comcast. Instead I would take just the HD Plus Tier ($5), along with HBO and SHO ($27), and Howard Stern ($13.99 - $4.00 for one year) and the HD-DVR ($9.95 + 4.24 for "signal service" to the receiver??). Net new cost: $56.18, instead of the $64.89 I used to pay (although I never watched anything from Comcast/TWC that wasn't in HD).

I do not need any of the standard basic/cable channels because I also have D* for SD all around my house and that's what I watch SD from, D* (and no HD from D*). I only need HD from TWC, on my HD-DVR for my HDTV. I do not watch SD from TWC on that set (although I do watch SD from D* on that set).

Also, my homeowners association pays the cost of "basic cable service" which I will therefore still get (or at least I should still get) even though I'm not paying anything extra for it on my personal TWC bill. Whatever that charge was (or is), I was never billed personally for it and it will still be that way going forward.

Yes, I've given up MaxHD, StarzHD, and TMC (SD) in this process (they were part of "Digital Platinum"), all of which I never watched anyway. And I've given up all of the other non-basic SD cable channels that I never watched either (since I watched them in SD from D*). But I still have just what I really wanted all along from the cable company, and I also now have HDNet and HDNet Movies and UHD, and I'm paying net about $9 less per month than I was before the TWC changeover.

And yes, as a former Comcast subscriber I will have KTLA-HD but no ESPN2HD.

RudyG

12-12-06, 04:18 AM

DSperber

12-12-06, 04:19 AM

Well, forget everything I just told you as far as midnight tonight being the cutover date for the new channel lineup in my area.

Midnight came and went, and there was no channel lineup change. There was, of course, the loss of all of the channels I had voluntarily given up when I flushed the Comcast legacy arrangement in order to go with HD Plus Tier. But there was no gain of the three new HD channels (UHD, HDN, HDNM) I had expected to see. And there was no overall channel lineup change to the new scheme.

So I called TWC again to inquire about the situation, wherein I learned from the CSR I was now talking to that the channel lineup in my area was NOT going to go into effect tonight. Instead, it was delayed about 45 days and would go into effect on January 30!!!

The CSR said she had received an email and a phone message about it this morning so that she could be prepared to deal with customer questions. Apparently the CSR (and her supervisor) that I had spoken with earlier in the evening in order to facilitate my transition had NOT gotten the same email and phone message!

After much screaming and demanding that I either receive a credit for the non-received new HD Plus Tier or be placed back on my old Comcast "Digital Platinum" arrangement until such time as the new lineup does go into effect at the end of January (to which I was told that she could not do either of those for me) I demanded to talk with a supervisor.

A few minutes later the CSR came back and apologized profusely for their mistake, and said that the supervisor had the authority she did not have, and had gone ahead and reinstated my previous Comcast "Digital Platinum" service. And sure enough everything is now once again back the way it was.

So... that was exciting. Pointless and worthless, but very exciting.

New date: January 30 (for all former Comcast areas in Marina Del Rey, Westchester, and Hollywood I would imagine).

DSperber

12-12-06, 04:58 AM

Hmm interesting that you went with D* for SD and TWC for HD. Considering E* offers the most HD channels of anyone out there.I've been a D* SD subscriber here in LA since 1997. I used to have a second place in Dallas (until March 2002 when I moved back to LA full time) where I had my first HDTV and I subscribed to E* (for SD and HD) because at the time their model 5000 receiver supported an HDTV Modulator add-on which allowed me to connect my Panny combo (DST50 receiver + PV-HD1000 D-VHS VCR) to the modulator (via channel 3 8VSB) so that I could tune and watch/record HD off-air as well as E*-provided premium HD. At the time this was the only HD recording solution for premium HD, although the Panny combo was also capable of running "standalone" to watch/record HD just off-air.

Anyway, when I moved back to LA in 2002 I brought all of my Dallas equipment with me and installed one more dish (for E* HD) which is what was required at the time. I continued to have D* for SD (which is what I always had in LA) and now also had E* for HD. No cable service at all at the time.

In March 2004 E* disabled the 5000/modulator hardware, making it no longer possible for me (and many other E* users who had similar equipment setups) to watch/record E*-provided HD. However I learned that Comcast had the Motorola 6208 HD STB (non-DVR) available (which had an active firewire port for D-VHS recording), so I signed up for cable service and got one of those 6208 HD boxes.

I relegated the Panny combo to a pure off-air recording solution. And I bought a JVC 40K, to connect via firewire to the 6208 for my D-VHS recording needs from premium channels (or OTA via Comcast/6208 instead of OTA to the Panny combo, if I felt like it). Turns out the 6208/40K recording solution was quite Rube Goldberg but it worked. In contrast the Panny combo OTA recording solution was much more dependable.

And I discontinued 100% of my E* service. They tried to retain me and wanted me to go with their new 912 DVR (at a discounted price, but it was still expensive) which was originally supposed to have active firewire (and which would have kept me as an E* subscriber if it were true), but that feature never materialized so after much waiting I finally told them goodbye. I still have their two dishes up on the roof, now unused.

Sometime in late 2004 I did experiment with D* HD for viewing only (actually adding the larger multi-LNB dish), running to a Hughes E86 receiver. No D-VHS recording was possible with the standard D* equipment. After a few months I realized I was never watching HD on D*, because I was always watching it on cable where I also had recording capability. I contemplated disconnecting it.

Then in November 2004 Comcast came out with the 6412 HD-DVR, and that was all I needed to cause me to make some major changes. I discontinued HD from D*, removed the Panny combo for OTA HD recording, replaced the 6208 with a 6412 from Comcast, and bought a new JVC DT100U to replace the Panny combo (and act as a second D-VHS HD recording device off of the 6412).

And all this time I continued to use my D* SD equipment... four Hughes E45 receivers (each capable of 32 timers), each coupled via firewire with a slave RCA VR911HF SD D-VHS VCR so that each pair of boxes really acts sort of like a DVR for me with the added convenience of being able to record and play back on any of the four setups.

So that's the history, and that's where I am. I'm very happy with the quality of the HD from Comcast (and now TWC), which is superior to that provided by either D* or E*. I don't miss any of the HD channels provided exclusively by D* or E*, especially now that HDN and HDNM are available on TWC (in January, anyway). I also like the 6412 and its ability to archive to either of my two D-VHS VCRs via firewire. I like the DT100U which also acts as a "backup/spare" OTA HD D-VHS VCR if I need it, in case I run short of space on the 6412.

I was an E* SD (and later HD) subscriber in Dallas for four years, and an E* HD subscriber in LA for 2. They had me when I could record premium HD channels to D-VHS, and they lost me when they discontinued that capability in their equipment. I do not miss any of their Voom-acquired HD channels.

Mogur2

12-12-06, 10:51 AM

I think I mentioned before that one of my Comcast DVR-HD boxes has fits at times. When I contacted tech support, I was told that I could get a new box (6416) by Wednesday.

From what I have seen here and on the HD Recorder area, I wonder if I am getting into more problems with the 6416?

Any thoughts about this?

Thanks,

braddman

12-12-06, 11:11 AM

Of course I know the box and internet speeds aren't related. I'm saying that when I got back on the internet my download speeds went from 500k bytes/Sec to 75k bytes/Sec. (According to the person on the last page that adjusted my incorrect nomenclature)

The internet was down for 3 days and this is how crappy it is after the migration.

Mogur2

12-12-06, 01:06 PM

Have you made any speed tests? Try this site and do several different ones. You may also find some help here.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

Of course I know the box and internet speeds aren't related. I'm saying that when I got back on the internet my download speeds went from 500k bytes/Sec to 75k bytes/Sec. (According to the person on the last page that adjusted my incorrect nomenclature)

The internet was down for 3 days and this is how crappy it is after the migration.

WeHoMyke

12-12-06, 10:50 PM

New date: January 30 (for all former Comcast areas in Marina Del Rey, Westchester, and Hollywood I would imagine).

It looks like they added a lot of TBD on their Channel Line Up Page.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/channellineups/

I wonder what is TWC problem now. West Hollywood is still 1/9, in fact I just got a new updated brochure dated 12/8 via snail mail Monday. telling me that 1/9 is our new conversion date.

WeHoMyke

12-12-06, 10:59 PM

Oh by the way, it looks like we will be getting MTV-HD next month.

http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=11212

December 11, 2006
Viacom, Time Warner Sign Carriage Deal
By Jon Lafayette
Viacom has reached a new carriage agreement with Time Warner Cable covering MTV Networks and BET Networks, the company said Monday.

The deal renews carriage of such Viacom networks as MTV, VH1, Spike and BET. Time Warner Cable will expand distribution of LOGO, Viacom's gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender focused channel, and will launch MHD, the high-definition music service.
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

In addition, the new deal includes digital distribution rights for MTV World, LOGO, MTV Tr3s and MHD, as well as a package of free on-demand content from MTVN and BETN.

RudyG

12-13-06, 02:19 PM

Mogur2

12-13-06, 04:14 PM

Hi Folks,
Any suggestions about this situation?

I think I mentioned before that one of my Comcast DVR-HD boxes has fits at times. When I contacted tech support, I was told that I could get a new box (6416) by Wednesday.

From what I have seen here and on the HD Recorder area, I wonder if I am getting into more problems with the 6416?

Any thoughts about this?

Thanks,

WeHoMyke

12-13-06, 05:23 PM

Man I can't get National Geographic or Food Network in HD, but MTV is available. Something I never watch. Doh!

Sorry just had to vent.

Rudy

You are not the only venting. The last line in the article says it all.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/12/11/time-warner-to-carry-mhd/

Time Warner to carry MHD
Posted Dec 11th 2006 10:50PM by Ben Drawbaugh
Filed under: MHD, Cable

In a new deal between Time Warner Cable and Viacom, Time Warner and Bright House Networks cable companies will be adding MHD to their HD lineup. While we are always happy to have another HD channel, many would prefer some other channel like National Geographic HD or even ESPN2 HD. There is no word when we can expect to see the channel online and no doubt those local branches without enough bandwith will go without MHD despite the agreement
---------------

By the way there is a separate thread ( I just found) that talks about this. Interesting some of the east coast TWC systems might be getting A&E HD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328&page=22&pp=30

Mogur2

12-13-06, 06:08 PM

JohninLA

12-13-06, 07:29 PM

no doubt those local branches without enough bandwith will go without MHD despite the agreement

I was on the phone with TWC recently regarding other problems I was having with them, and I questioned the use of bandwidth. Since the transition, I have both East and West coast feeds of all my premium channels. Isn't that a huge waste of bandwidth? Do I really need to have my choice of watching HBO or Showtime three hours earlier, especially with DVR's and OnDemand? Getting rid of all the duplicate channels would more than make room for some of these newer channels.

When I asked the rep about this, his only comment was "some people like to have the east coast feeds."

I thought Comcast was bad, but TWC has taken first prize!

twelvepbrs

12-13-06, 08:53 PM

You are not the only venting. The last line in the article says it all.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/12/11/time-warner-to-carry-mhd/

Time Warner to carry MHD
Posted Dec 11th 2006 10:50PM by Ben Drawbaugh
Filed under: MHD, Cable

In a new deal between Time Warner Cable and Viacom, Time Warner and Bright House Networks cable companies will be adding MHD to their HD lineup. While we are always happy to have another HD channel, many would prefer some other channel like National Geographic HD or even ESPN2 HD. There is no word when we can expect to see the channel online and no doubt those local branches without enough bandwith will go without MHD despite the agreement
---------------

By the way there is a separate thread ( I just found) that talks about this. Interesting some of the east coast TWC systems might be getting A&E HD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328&page=22&pp=30
I'd love to get ESPN2HD now that college football season is over, in fact i expect TWC to flip the switch as soon as the "International Bowl" is finished (it's the last CFB broadcast on ESPN2HD for the season), if not maybe i'll abandon my sarcasm and pray for them to get it running before march madness

SirJW

12-13-06, 11:19 PM

Saw the Kings last night on 413 in HD on FSW and it looked great! Still waiting for Center ice games in HD on the same channel, even though they are listed I only get color bars. Is anyone getting HD games from Center Ice?

joe221

12-13-06, 11:21 PM

Does anyone have the address of the LA regional office? Perhaps a snail mail blitz along with copies to the state consumer agency. They did help with a problem with Worst Buy.

What about the Better Business bureau?

I know there's an office on Nebraska Ave in Santa Monica between Centinella and Stewart. I think the cross is Stanford, but I'm not sure. It's a former Adelphia store.

firebird400

12-14-06, 01:53 PM

hockeyamd

12-14-06, 02:34 PM

In Santa Ana they managed to change the channels last night. I tried add the HD Tier today with ESPN, HDNET,INHD, and universal HD but they said that they do not offer that in Santa Ana yet. But they do have however have all the guide info for these channels. Its like a dangling HD carrot in my face. I can see what is on them but not watch. We did get Cinemax HD, starz HD now. Has anyone heard about this with the new channels that we can get guide info but we can not see them because they can not bill us yet for them.

BTW the Moxi hated the channel change. I had to call them to ping the box and I had to reset it to flush the old channel lineup out.

Arvy

12-14-06, 02:53 PM

I'm trying to see if everyone with TWC in SoCal is on the same page with the firmware and software. This would be found by using the remote to hit Menu:House Icon:Setup:Cable Box Setup:scroll to Select To Display.

Software (S/W) is 71.44 - 1203 and firmware is 12.35 on my box. It's interesting for me because I'm comparing the features of these versions to more recent ones for the 6416 III and what bugs and features are associated with each. If you want to see the feature/bugs lists, go to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR/Firmware_and_Software#Version_71.44.1203

pretz33

12-14-06, 04:10 PM

Video Engineer

12-14-06, 04:54 PM

markt170

12-14-06, 05:24 PM

TW needs geography lessons. Encino is located in America's Beautiful San Fernando Valley. I know this because I've lived there most of my life. TW's first notice to me identified my residence as in "Van Nuys." No offense to residents of Van Nuys (maybe just a little offense), but come on . . . . Ok, so the cable office is in Van Nuys, so no problem. Then, the second notice and their friendly on-line guide puts my zip code in the East San Fernando Valley, which is between North Hollywood and Burbank, moving even farther away. Yesterday, I received notice in the mail that the Dec. 19 channel switching has been moved to Jan. 9 for all of us residents of "Santa Monica." I assume that TW will be arranging for the weather to drop 20 degrees next summer, now that I live in Santa Monica. Also, the difficult to read channel card indicated no ESPN2-HD, which I currently receive. I have not bothered figuring out what package I'm going to get or if I do nothing whether my bill will go up. But here's my guess. My bill will go up. For now, I am doing nothing. I'm not calling them; I'm not changing packages; I'm not complaining; I'm not delving into the knowledge base of the CSRs, and I'm definitely not requesting change-out of my Moxi for the 6416III, which, as you may recall, I reported on in September when my friend received it, and I had many of the same complaints about the format and controls that many others have subsequently written about. So here's a little holiday shout-out to the recently resurrected MoxiGuy: TW will have to pry my Moxi from my cold, dead hands.

DSperber

12-14-06, 05:31 PM

This would be found by using the remote to hit Menu:House Icon:Setup:Cable Box Setup:scroll to Select To Display.Just in passing, since the 64xx box remembers the last icons or menu selections you chose and re-presents them the next time you're back at that level, you might not want to always have to use the "quick menu" (i.e. the one you see right away when you push the MENU button) to have to navigate to the "main menu" (i.e. the one you see when you push the "home" icon" on that "quick" menu). For example, if it's sitting on the "DVR" icon (so that you can get into your scheduled recordings or series lists, or as an alternative to the MyDVR button on the remote to get into your current recording list) you might not want to move it off of that if you often check your recordings, since you know you're going to have to move it back the next time you want to check your recordings. Or... it might not really matter much to you.

But anyway, you can always get directly to the "main menu" in a very easy alternative way, and not disturb the current selected icon on the "quick menu", by simply pushing the MENU button on the remote twice! Same result, you end up in the "main menu" where you can navigate to "setup" or whatever you want. But you don't disturb the "quick menu" last icon selected status for the next time you do this again.

Just push MENU on the remote twice, and you're at the "main menu".

scbajmr

12-14-06, 06:37 PM

SirJW, how did you know that the Kings game was on 413? The menu is always messed up for that channel so I never know when something is finally showing! The FSN HD webpage hasn't been updated for December yet.

I usually look at it each night when I get home. There doesn't appear to be any set timing on when games are shown but I've also see Laker games broadcast on it recently. My guess is if a Kings or Lakers game is being show on FSN, there's a chance it will also be shown on 413.

RudyG

12-14-06, 06:45 PM

PC487

12-14-06, 08:17 PM

Spoke to the TW CSRs today, FWIW, Jan 1 is the planned date of the changeover for Santa Monica.

dadndudes

12-14-06, 09:53 PM

Hi,
I live in the Diamond Bar area and after the channel lineup changes on 12/12, I was not able to receive the basic HD channel (ie. 2, 4, 7, 11and KCET) anymore thru my Panasonic build in HD tuner. I used to get them on 2-1, 4-1, 7-1, 100-1, and 100-2. I was able to get all HD channels ( 400 and above ) thru the Motorola box though. Anybody knows where these channels are now? Thanks

Went through the same thing after the 12/12 change too. They remapped the local HD channels. You need to set your HD tuner to rescan (auto program, auto search etc.) your available channels. They are there.

bgooch

12-15-06, 12:14 AM

Why you can't see the game in HDTV or "We're still in the middle of making a lot of changes," TWC L.A. spokeswoman

Thursday, December 14, 2006
By Jon Weinbach, The Wall Street Journal

At Joan Cramer's home in Jupiter, Fla., there's a 61-inch high-definition TV in the media room and a 51-incher in the bedroom. She pays extra to DirecTV Group Inc. for HD channels and the "NFL Sunday Ticket" football package so her family can watch their beloved Cleveland Browns. One slight problem: The Browns are seldom on in high definition.

Only four of Cleveland's 13 games this year have been available in high definition, and just five of the National Football League team's 16 games last season were in HD. "It's been useless for us because we want to watch the Browns in HD," says Mrs. Cramer, a 66-year-old Cleveland native whose family owned Browns season tickets for 45 years.

A warning to fans who plan to buy a TV before Christmas: Watching sports in HD is no slam dunk. Many nationally televised sports events are now available in HD, but most games are still beamed by regional cable sports networks or independent stations that don't yet broadcast in high definition.

The amount of HD coverage varies widely depending on the team and region, but many popular sports franchises remain tough to see in HD. The National Basketball Association's Los Angeles Lakers, for example, will have only about half of their games in HD this season. The primary broadcaster for baseball's St. Louis Cardinals showed just 18 games in HD last season -- a fraction of the network's 110-game TV schedule. "The industry has done a pretty poor job," admits Randy Freer, chief operations officer for Fox Sports Networks, which owns 18 cable sports channels around the country. "There's a fair amount of confusion in the marketplace."

It's a particularly important issue right now. For the fourth quarter, industry analysts are forecasting sales of about three million HDTV units, more than twice the number sold during the year-earlier period. Nearly 33 million U.S households, or about 30 percent of the market, are expected to have an HDTV by year end, according to the Consumer Electronics Association. The growth has been sparked by a price war among manufacturers and retailers.

Sports is a big part of the HD pitch. Dozens of ads tout the appeal of watching games in HD, and ESPN, the cable sports behemoth, has maintained a 24-hour HD channel since 2003, long before most other networks. But finding games in HD can be an exercise in remote-control frustration. Cable systems often put HD sports broadcasts on random channels that aren't well-marked or publicized. Contrary to what many consumers are told, there is no deadline for networks to begin broadcasting in HD. The only Federal Communications Commission requirement is for stations to transmit signals in a digital format by 2009 -- but going digital doesn't mean going HD.

Further confusing matters: Millions of viewers have seen their cable systems change ownership -- and their channel lineups overhauled -- since federal regulators approved Time Warner Inc. and Comcast Corp.'s $17 billion purchase of Adelphia Communication Corp.'s cable assets. As part of the deal, Comcast and Time Warner swapped systems in Dallas, Cleveland, Boston and Los Angeles, and with all of the changes, there have been communication gaffes regarding HD programming. "We're still in the middle of making a lot of changes," says a spokeswoman for Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles.

Jeffrey Alan, a 34-year-old tax lawyer in Houston, got his first HD set in 2004, but became frustrated by the lack of information about which games were available in HD. So he began contacting networks and local stations directly, and set up a Web site -- hdsportsguide.com -- that posts schedules of all the HD sports broadcasts around the country. "I feel like a detective," Mr. Alan says, who estimates that he spends about seven hours a week hounding TV officials.

There are several factors limiting the amount of HD content. HD broadcasts contain far more lines of picture resolution and audio information than regular programs, so they're more expensive to transmit and tax the existing bandwidth of cable systems and satellite providers. Cable systems are particularly hard-hit because they use the same wires to deliver TV, Internet, video-on-demand, and phone services to customers -- and therefore have less room for HD signals.

Satellite services like DirecTV and Dish Network face the same issue: On Sundays during the NFL season, DirecTV usually has to take one of its HD channels off the air in order to free up space to show NFL games in HD.

TV networks have their own cost and logistical hurdles. An HD sports broadcast is up to 30 percent more expensive to produce than a standard telecast, according to TV executives. There is also an industrywide shortage of high-definition broadcast trucks, so during busy periods it's nearly impossible to broadcast every desirable game in HD. "You have to make choices," says Martin Franks, executive vice president of planning and policy for CBS, which is producing about half of its NFL schedule in HD, but plans to telecast all of its 2007 golf tournaments in HD.

To be sure, the amount of HD sports coverage has grown exponentially. Every NBA game televised by ESPN, ABC, and TNT this season will be available in HD, and Fox Sport Networks' regional channels -- which own the local cable rights to roughly two-thirds of all the teams in the NBA, National Hockey League, and Major League Baseball -- recently pledged to double their number of HD broadcasts. DirecTV plans to launch two additional satellites sometime next year, a move the company says will give it bandwidth for 150 additional HD channels. In baseball, both the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox are widely available in HD, largely because both clubs own TV networks. Last season, the Yankees' YES Network showed nearly its entire broadcast schedule -- about 125 games -- in HD, and the network's stand-alone HD channel will be available on all New York-area cable systems by April. (On DirecTV, New York-area viewers with HD service can access real-time statistics and other interactive options on YES.)

Consumers also have to pay more attention. Many HDTV owners can't even watch HD programming because they haven't signed up for upgraded service from their cable or satellite provider -- and therefore aren't receiving HD channels.

Tech-savvy sports fans, of course, just want to see as many games as possible in HD. Jeff Homberger, a 22-year-old from Belleville, Mich., follows the TV industry closely -- he has tracked how many times each NFL team has appeared in HD over the past three seasons. Earlier this year, his local cable sports network, FSN Detroit, unveiled an HD channel and began broadcasting Detroit Tigers games in high definition. Unfortunately, his Comcast cable system didn't add the channel until after the baseball season. "It was one of my frustrations over the summer," he says. "I'll tune into a sport just because I see it in HD."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06348/746143-237.stm

bgooch

12-15-06, 12:25 AM

Time Warner Adds AmericanLife in L.A.
12/14/2006 5:07:00 PM

Time Warner Cable will roll out AmericanLife TV Network throughout the Los Angeles DMA through year-end.

The operator said the Baby Boomer-targeted network will occupy channel 124 in Greater Los Angeles.

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleid=CA6399983

SirJW

12-15-06, 02:37 AM

SirJW, how did you know that the Kings game was on 413? The menu is always messed up for that channel so I never know when something is finally showing! The FSN HD webpage hasn't been updated for December yet.

The menu is never accurate. I found out the game was on from:
http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/index.php?

BTW - does everyone notice the only HD games at Staples are always when the other team is airing the game in HD in their home market? Why aren’t there more home games in HD for all LA teams? It seems as though most other FOX Sports markets are airing many many more games in HD this season. Does Staples charge more than most arenas to produce in HD?

Arvy

12-15-06, 02:54 AM

[/QUOTE]But anyway, you can always get directly to the "main menu" in a very easy alternative way, and not disturb the current selected icon on the "quick menu", by simply pushing the MENU button on the remote twice! Same result, you end up in the "main menu" where you can navigate to "setup" or whatever you want. But you don't disturb the "quick menu" last icon selected status for the next time you do this again.

Just push MENU on the remote twice, and you're at the "main menu".[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the tip.

At what versions are your firmware and software?

DSperber

12-15-06, 03:22 AM

At what versions are your firmware and software?My levels aren't really relevant to your situation, because I still have a 6412-II that I've had for two years now (well, to be honest I did have one replacement about 1 1/2 years ago). The 6416 has much newer software (not to mention HDMI, vs. DVI in my 6412 which I don't use anyway because my 34XBR960 CRT provides identical video performance from component video and I have my multiple component video sources running through a Zektor HDS4 switch, a convenience I could not have cheaply if I were using DVI or HDMI).

No need to change anything and upgrade to a 6416 as far as I'm concerned, although a larger hard drive would be nice. But if I have to get a noisy fan with it, I'll pass. My 6412 is essentially silent unless you're within 6" of it, and then all you hear is the hard drive spinning.

My solution to limited capacity is to offload stuff to D-VHS tapes and watch them whenever I get around to it, on my own schedule. I still haven't watched the final four episodes of "Huff", which went off the air back in June!

Arvy

12-15-06, 04:15 AM

My levels aren't really relevant to your situation, because I still have a 6412-II that I've had for two years now (well, to be honest I did have one replacement about 1 1/2 years ago). The 6416 has much newer software (not to mention HDMI, vs. DVI in my 6412 which I don't use anyway because my 34XBR960 CRT provides identical video performance from component video and I have my multiple component video sources running through a Zektor HDS4 switch, a convenience I could not have cheaply if I were using DVI or HDMI).

No need to change anything and upgrade to a 6416 as far as I'm concerned, although a larger hard drive would be nice. But if I have to get a noisy fan with it, I'll pass. My 6412 is essentially silent unless you're within 6" of it, and then all you hear is the hard drive spinning.

My solution to limited capacity is to offload stuff to D-VHS tapes and watch them whenever I get around to it, on my own schedule. I still haven't watched the final four episodes of "Huff", which went off the air back in June!

I have a 6416 II because that's what TWC delivered a few months ago. The fan noise isn't much of a concern. I never really notice it because the TV's audio is turned up high enough to drown out the STB, two PCs, a ReplayTV's spinning disk, and several other tidbits. My Dell 37" HDTV (forgot the model) has two component, two HDMI, and a slew of composite and S-Vid inputs. Less than half of them are in service. No problem there either.

What does bother me, and the reason I asked about formware and software versions across TWC's Southland is the 2 IEEE1394 ports which should be enabled under the SW and FW running the box. Only at v.16.20, if I'm correctly informed, does the box turn those ports off.

At one time a firewire cable wonderfully sent both live and recorded broadcasts to eith of my PCs butdoes no more :( The input diagnostics screen labels those I/O ports as 0 enabled so I'm hoping to glean info on what is going on and how to correct it, if possible. So far, talking to TWC has been fruitless. I have to explain firewire ("No it's not a firewall." "Yes, it's supposed to be on be federal regulations." "Don't send another STB replacement box. I've had 2 already.") to them. The last call made resulted in a supervisor saying none of their boxes are enabled for firewire and won't be until TWC irons out their 1.5 million new subscribers. An email to Motorola came back saying TWC needs to flash the fireware to enable those ports (makes sense to me).

I won't rant more. I'm only curious to know if everyone's 6416 III has the same FW and SW installed, then everyone's IEEE1394 ports should be on or off like mine.

joe221

12-15-06, 01:14 PM

joe221

12-15-06, 01:17 PM

Spoke to the TW CSRs today, FWIW, Jan 1 is the planned date of the changeover for Santa Monica.

OK, are they saying they'll be sober enough to switch?? Uhoh! ;) :D

napple

12-15-06, 03:43 PM

dagware

12-15-06, 05:16 PM

DOes anyone here use the digital cabler tuner (QAM) on their TV to pick up cable? Well, i do... and lately i've lost FOX HD and Discovery HD :(.

We still get those channels via the cable box, but with my TV's (Panasonic plasma) tuner, I now only get CBS, NBC, and Various KCET channels in HD
I'm surprised you were able to get Discovery HD, since they charge extra for that. In theory you're supposed to always be able to get the local HD chanels. Of course, I've never gotten KTLA HD...

-Dan

PS: As I re-read what I typed, I guess I'm not much help. Sorry.

BriW

12-16-06, 02:09 AM

No need to change anything and upgrade to a 6416 as far as I'm concerned, although a larger hard drive would be nice. But if I have to get a noisy fan with it, I'll pass. My 6412 is essentially silent unless you're within 6" of it, and then all you hear is the hard drive spinning.

I think it is just a matter of not getting a unit with a bad fan. My 6416 III is essentially silent as well. We just picked it up at the CC office when we added HD in early Nov. Just ask to exchange it when you change your plan at the end of Jan. I think there is a standard two or three day wait to pick up a new box. If you get a noisy box, just trade it again.

Digital Puppy

12-17-06, 12:13 AM

Received and "important notice" in the mail today from TWC informing me that the previous letter informing me of a channel line up change has been changed. The new date for my new line up is December 19th. Riiiiight.

Oh, and they thanked me for being a part of the TWC family. :rolleyes:

dagware

12-17-06, 01:15 PM

Oh, and they thanked me for being a part of the TWC family. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I got something from them with the same thank-you in it. Almost hurled.

-Dan

allan07

12-18-06, 01:44 PM

Latest from Tarzana, Ca. -- Just received an automated phone call confirming channel line-up change TOMORROW -- but mailer received last week said January 9. Phone call to TWC confirmed 1/9 is the date -- plus there will be new HD channels (unidentified), but added too late for multi-color flyer that was mailed last week.

dagware

12-18-06, 03:08 PM

joe221

12-18-06, 03:54 PM

I think a "switch" was thrown in West LA. The channels didn't change BUT in the past when I had Fox News Channel on in the kitchen on an old school analog TV the living room TV via cable card was in sync. Not today. There is now an echo happening. Things are happening. We're due for a big change in January. Maybe they're testing some systems.

delrmx01

12-18-06, 05:34 PM

Hi all,

I haven't posted in this area for a while and I wanted to see if anyone was experiencing the same issue. The channel line-up has finally came through -- I now have the appropriate channels listed on their guide. However I still have the old channels listed on the menu.

I know I can just hide it and not deal with it, but are they doing something to correct this? For example, on the HDTV channel line up shows all the movie channels in HD then if you scroll down further they'll have the same list but different channels in the the 400's-- It seems the older channels were not cleared or since they have not completed the line-up for all areas it's still thee..hope I'm making sense.

markt170

12-19-06, 01:33 AM

Channels are changing in Encino. I got the automated phone message this morning -- after receiving a notice that channels would change on Jan 19. Now (at 10:30), the channel lineup is changing on the Moxi, but the actuals channels have not yet changed. I hope in the morning, all the changes will have occurred, but I'm not counting on it. I still have a slight hope that KTLA and Fox Sports will appear in HD.

twelvepbrs

12-19-06, 02:31 AM

For those of us that have made the change-over and still don't have ESPN2 HD, anyone have any wild theories that ESPN2HD or some other HD channel might appear after the INHD-INHD2 consolidation?

Go Gators!

hockeyamd

12-19-06, 02:53 AM

Hi all,
I know I can just hide it and not deal with it, but are they doing something to correct this? For example, on the HDTV channel line up shows all the movie channels in HD then if you scroll down further they'll have the same list but different channels in the the 400's-- It seems the older channels were not cleared or since they have not completed the line-up for all areas it's still thee..hope I'm making sense.

My Moxi hated the channel change. I had to call them to ping the box and I had to reset it to flush the old channel lineup out. Plus they said they had to reset and update my account.

e_e_emarpea

12-19-06, 02:01 PM

i have a pio 6070. im wondering what is the best way to utilize pip.

do i split the coax cable going to the cable box so i can take advantage of the built in tuner, or should i simply run some components to another input? im not even sure which method the tv supports.

also, anyone know how to expand the recording capabilities with a moto 6416 III? ie external HDD or can it only be done via firewire/pc?

i would appreciate any suggestions/ info. thanks!

delrmx01

12-19-06, 03:15 PM

My Moxi hated the channel change. I had to call them to ping the box and I had to reset it to flush the old channel lineup out. Plus they said they had to reset and update my account.

Ahhh...think I'll do that tonight. I'll give'm a call.

dagware

12-19-06, 03:53 PM

i have a pio 6070. im wondering what is the best way to utilize pip.

do i split the coax cable going to the cable box so i can take advantage of the built in tuner, or should i simply run some components to another input? im not even sure which method the tv supports.
Usually you split the coax cable. Going into the TV you have one input from the cable box, and one from the splitter. So when you use PIP, you can only see the channels that you don't have to subscribe to (but you may be able to see HD OTA channels).

There's other more complex ways of doing it, but this should get you going. Make sure you use a high-quality splitter that supports 1000 MHz (if I don't have this number correct, can someone else please correct me? thanks) And decent cables that screw in, not just slide on. My 2 cents worth, anyway.

-Dan

markt170

12-19-06, 04:53 PM

SirJW

12-19-06, 05:21 PM

All went well. No problems with the channel changes, except that Universal HD is displaying the "you don't subscribe" message. Darn, no Knight Rider for me. There seems to be nothing on that channel. It will be interesting to see if and where any Lakers home games in HD might be.

Same thing happened to me after the switch. You'll need to call and change your billing system from the Adelphia tier to the TWC tier to get the new channels.

Channel 413 will have the Laker games in HD although not many games are in HD. My guide still doesn't show the events so it's best to check here:
http://www.hdsportsguide.com/

Also best to look on the channels guide rather than the HDTV guide since for some reason the channel doesn't show.

jasonvr

12-19-06, 05:25 PM

Same thing happened to me after the switch. You'll need to call and change your billing system from the Adelphia tier to the TWC tier to get the new channels.

Not necessarily true. When my switchover happened back in October I received the new channels immediately. I still have not changed over to the TWC pricing tier but yet I am getting UniversalHD and StarzHD in addition to what I was already receiving. This may be because I was already receiving everything Adelphia offered prior to the switch (i.e. all premiums and the HD Plus Tier).

SirJW

12-19-06, 05:48 PM

That might be the case, I had / have everything w/ only HBO for moive channels.

Paladin677

12-19-06, 06:18 PM

The switchover happened last night for me and I had to just now go into the OSD menu on my MOXI myself and trigger the program update trigger to get the new lineup.

allan07

12-19-06, 07:29 PM

Switch over is happening now in 91356 (Tarzana) -- Was getting 02-99 only on Moxi -- horrible reception -- full of snow -- now getting nothing -- called 888 number twice -- switched billing to TWC tiers -- still nothing -- on hookup directly to another tv w/o a cable box getting 02-99, but really poor picture quality -- tried to reboot Moxie twice -- still nothing -- how did you trigger update thru on screen display on Moxie ?

allan07

12-19-06, 08:26 PM

Now the story from the CSR is that it may take 24 hours for the Moxie to reprogram -- in the meantime I am now getting some random channels --38-50-- but nothing else -- what a mess !!

Rare Hero

12-20-06, 02:25 AM

I'm not sure if this is due to the updates , or a poorly timed defect - but my HD content is playing all choppy...like frames are dropping here and there....SD channels seem fine. The weird thing is, HD stuff I recorded a while ago has the same choppiness problem!

Could this be related to today's updates? Gah, I hope it fixes itself....that would suck if I had to exchange my box ...I have stuff DVR'd that I don't wanna lose :(

Arvy

12-20-06, 11:54 AM

Does ANYONE ANYWHERE in SoCal TWC range with a 6416 III STB have the ability to connect to a PC via IEEE 1394 (firewire) for a/v captures?

SPDICKEY

12-20-06, 12:07 PM

TW needs geography lessons. Encino is located in America's Beautiful San Fernando Valley.

You are a victim of the old cable franchise borders set up in the 1960's in the City Los Angeles. People in the "flats" got TV reception and didn't need the community antenna. The first major system built there was Theta Cable (remember "Z" Channel?) that covered the Santa Monica Mountains from Ventura Blvd (Encino, Sherman Oaks, Tarzana, Woodland Hills and others) south to Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Bel Air and Pacific Palisades. This was run out of several mountain top headends at the time linked to the Santa Monica office.

Through a progression of cable operators (from Theta who was Hughes Aircraft and Teleprompter, then Westinghouse's Group W to Adelphia). United Cable (then TCI then Adelphia) built the East San Fernando Valley from Ventura Blvd. North running it out of Van Nuys. Valley Cable (later TWC) built the West Valley from the 405 west to West Hills running out of Chatsworth.

So those south of Ventura Blvd. are hooked up to the old Theta/Adelphia (Santa Monica) system while those north of the Blvd. are in the newer East Valley United/TCI/Adelphia or West Valley systems. Makes for confusion from those living in the margins near Ventura Blvd.

Same situation for the Marina del Rey area. Theta built the system in the county areas of the Marina in the 1970s (around the boat slips), while CommuniCom/American/Comcast built the system serving Hollywood/Wilshire/Venice areas of Los Angeles in the 1980s. So those with the same Marina/Venice ZIPS can be served of two separate cable systems.

Now Time Warner is trying to bring this all together into one "system" to cut all this confusion. In the meantime, it will be very confusing!

DSperber

12-20-06, 12:27 PM

Now Time Warner is trying to bring this all together into one "system" to cut all this confusion. In the meantime, it will be very confusing!And it likely will continue to be confusing as long as the two incompatible head-end infrastructures (i.e. SA-based vs. Moto-based) require two types of STB/DVR hardware (i.e. SA8300 vs. Moxi/62xx/64xx) that have different software.

Based on the national (not LA yet, apparently) rollout of the new Navigator software for the SA8300 and the gripes and complaints (well documented in that other thread), I'm quite happy that in my area of the Marina (old Communicom/Comcast) I've got a 6412 DVR that hopefully will NOT have its software changed for quite some time.

And yes... I used to live in West LA where we were lucky enough to have Theta Cable, which hosted the "Z" channel and its terrific content (I remember watching showings of Academy Award nominee films in the late 70's, before the days of "screeners" on videotape/DVD).

hockeyamd

12-21-06, 02:28 AM

I just tried to call to see if we had the HD Tier (Santa Ana) and the machine told me it was 2 hour wait since they are on Holiday Reduced Staff. I am trying to give them money and they want me to wait. I can not believe how crappy this transition has been.

joe221

12-21-06, 01:50 PM

Does ANYONE ANYWHERE in SoCal TWC range with a 6416 III STB have the ability to connect to a PC via IEEE 1394 (firewire) for a/v captures?

I've tried and failed. :(

joe221

12-21-06, 01:51 PM

You are a victim of the old cable franchise borders set up in the 1960's in the City Los Angeles. People in the "flats" got TV reception and didn't need the community antenna. The first major system built there was Theta Cable (remember "Z" Channel?) that covered the Santa Monica Mountains from Ventura Blvd (Encino, Sherman Oaks, Tarzana, Woodland Hills and others) south to Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Bel Air and Pacific Palisades. This was run out of several mountain top headends at the time linked to the Santa Monica office.

Through a progression of cable operators (from Theta who was Hughes Aircraft and Teleprompter, then Westinghouse's Group W to Adelphia). United Cable (then TCI then Adelphia) built the East San Fernando Valley from Ventura Blvd. North running it out of Van Nuys. Valley Cable (later TWC) built the West Valley from the 405 west to West Hills running out of Chatsworth.

So those south of Ventura Blvd. are hooked up to the old Theta/Adelphia (Santa Monica) system while those north of the Blvd. are in the newer East Valley United/TCI/Adelphia or West Valley systems. Makes for confusion from those living in the margins near Ventura Blvd.

Same situation for the Marina del Rey area. Theta built the system in the county areas of the Marina in the 1970s (around the boat slips), while CommuniCom/American/Comcast built the system serving Hollywood/Wilshire/Venice areas of Los Angeles in the 1980s. So those with the same Marina/Venice ZIPS can be served of two separate cable systems.

Now Time Warner is trying to bring this all together into one "system" to cut all this confusion. In the meantime, it will be very confusing!

You forgot Century Cable! ;)

joe221

12-21-06, 01:57 PM

For those who are interested There was a documentary made about The Z Channel called A Magnificent Obsession (http://www.amazon.com/Channel-Magnificent-Obsession-Quentin-Tarantino/dp/B000AQKV0I) that airs sometimes on Sundance or maybe can be rented. It's very interesting.

markt170

12-21-06, 02:05 PM

SPDICKEY: That was an excellent history you provided, and it all sounds very familiar. What a thrill the Z channel was when it first came out.

SIRJW: You are right. I called TW and changed over from my Adelphia plan to their plan. Here's what I had: 2 Moxi's, digital tier, HD tier (incl. espn 1&2), HBO & Showtime for about $136 per month.

Changing over to TW gave me: same as above, plus a couple more useless channels, plus Universal HD (the talking Firebird channel), Encore, Starz, Cinemax for about $132 per month. So, that's a good deal -- many more premium channels for slightly less money.

Channel 413 is listed as a Fox HD channel but nothing is on it. I think SirJW is right that it will eventually show a few Lakers home games in HD. In fact, if you scroll through the guide on that channel, there is no programming until the Dec. 31 Lakers Sixers game. I hope it's in HD, and that it's not blacked out. The day after the channel switch, the Lakers Bulls game was on INHD in HD, and I was watching the pre-game show, but as soon as the game started, it was blacked out, forcing me to watch the game in SD on channel 9. That bites. The printed out guide also listed some HD special events channels (750?), but those channels don't appear on the Moxi guide.

Other observations:

The CSR was very well informed and gave excellent explanations. I told her I want Lakers home games in HD, and she acknowledged that many people want that and they're working on it. I forgot to mention the need for KTLA HD.

There was no rhyme or reason for which channels were selected to appear on the Moxi list after the change-over, so I had to go into the Moxi channel menu to delete and add. Took quite a while.

I deleted all of the channels in the double digit section that re-appear in the triple digit section so that scrolling the whole list would take less time and avoid duplication. This, of course, has freaked wifey out. Seems she never scrolls; she either inputs the channel number or uses the channel toggle to go one by one. This drives me crazy. Most of the double digit channels are still where they were, so she can access them by inputting the number but not by using the channel toggle. She better learn how to do it right or there'll be no tv watching for her!

Lastly, I told the CSR that I'm in no hurry to give up my Moxi's. She said they've run out of the 6416 III's and are still using Moxi's for the time being, but eventually, they will contact me about replacing them, or it might happen sooner if my Moxi's die. The main reason I like the Moxi is the ability to hide unused channels, whereas the 6416 makes you go through the extra step of going into the "Favorites" menu.

Ok, really lastly: there's nothing to watch on tv.

Arvy

12-21-06, 02:42 PM

I've tried and failed. :(

At least I'm not alone in this misery.

WeHoMyke

12-21-06, 03:43 PM

http://tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=451

FSN Tries to Clear Channel Confusion
Net to to Direct Market to Fans

Fox Sports Net's upcoming marketing campaign won't try to convince viewers to subscribe, or even to watch its games. It will merely tell viewers where they can find the channel.

Executives at the group of Fox-owned regional sports networks are frustrated by cable and satellite operators who, in the midst of consolidation and bandwidth crunching, keep moving around their HD programming and airing games on obscure channel positions.

A recent Wall Street Journal story chronicled how Time Warner and Comcast's purchase of Adelphia has resulted in many former Adelphia viewers feeling confused about where to find HD games. Also, some FSN regions do not have their own dedicated HD channels, but still frequently offer games in HD, resulting in operators sticking the signals onto inconsistent channel spaces.

One site, www.hdsportsguide.com, was created by a frustrated fan solely to track HD sports scheduling.

"We're receiving viewer and journalist calls from people who have FSN but are missing the games," FSN spokesperson Jennifer Johnson said.

Last month, FSN announced plans to double its HD coverage for the 2006-2007 season, which is an expensive proposition. Producing a game in HD costs only 20 percent more than standard definition, but HD transmission rates can run as much as 500 percent higher. The result is that games can cost as much as double to produce in HD vs. standard definition, which is money wasted if viewers can't find the games.

Though informing viewers of channel locations is usually the job of the distributors, FSN decided it was time to do an end run directly to viewers.

Plans include on-air promotions urging viewers to call their local operator for channel numbers, outdoor advertising branded with the channel number and distributing game schedule flyers at games.

SirJW

12-21-06, 09:27 PM

The FSN-HD Schedule has been updated for December and January.

Slim Pickins' Though:
http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD#FSWest

It’s very frustrating that LA the #2 Television Market doesn’t have a permanent truck for Staples and Dodger Stadium. I get that the Kings are not a priority but the lack of HD games for the Lakers and Dodgers baffles me. Compare NY or Boston their cable nets MSG, YES and NESN produce almost all the games in HD.

bgooch

12-21-06, 10:06 PM

Medium sized markets have it better too!

Local Channel 4 San Diego brings you over 100 Padres games in High-Definition on Channel 704

hockeyamd

12-22-06, 03:55 AM

Santa Ana now has the HD Tier :D . I just added it after a 45 :mad: minute wait

twelvepbrs

12-22-06, 12:38 PM

e_e_emarpea

12-22-06, 03:42 PM

Usually you split the coax cable. Going into the TV you have one input from the cable box, and one from the splitter. So when you use PIP, you can only see the channels that you don't have to subscribe to (but you may be able to see HD OTA channels).

There's other more complex ways of doing it, but this should get you going. Make sure you use a high-quality splitter that supports 1000 MHz (if I don't have this number correct, can someone else please correct me? thanks) And decent cables that screw in, not just slide on. My 2 cents worth, anyway.

-Dan

thx alot man i appreciate the info. im gunna give it a try.

joe221

12-23-06, 03:20 AM

RudyG

12-24-06, 02:59 AM

A friend of mine has been dead in the water for last day and a half on TWC. TV and HSI. Does anyone know if others have trouble in the Brentwood area? They're sending out someone tomorrow. If you're affected, you may not be seeing this, though!

I'm out of town this weekend, so I can't check. But this would really suck if I were to come home tomorrow and not have the HSI. It is bad enough that I can't get the speed to be over 600K. :mad: :( :eek:
I understand that TWC has a lot on their plate, or I guess it's RoadRunner in this case, so I hope they straighten this out eventually though. I was hitting over 5 Meg with Adelphia just over a year ago, on the same line same aprtment same everything ...

Rudy

joe221

12-24-06, 10:46 AM

I'm out of town this weekend, so I can't check. But this would really suck if I were to come home tomorrow and not have the HSI. It is bad enough that I can't get the speed to be over 600K. :mad: :( :eek:
I understand that TWC has a lot on their plate, or I guess it's RoadRunner in this case, so I hope they straighten this out eventually though. I was hitting over 5 Meg with Adelphia just over a year ago, on the same line same aprtment same everything ...

Rudy

It was fixed. Work is being done in the area. If they knock you out they have to come over and reset something in the building's box. BTW he's going reaaaal sloooooow now on HSI.

RudyG

12-24-06, 02:24 PM

It was fixed. Work is being done in the area. If they knock you out they have to come over and reset something in the building's box. BTW he's going reaaaal sloooooow now on HSI.

Thanks Joe.

I guess I'll leave them alone for a week or two and allow them to finish whatever it is they are doing. Although a notice would have been nice. This slow speed for my HSI has been most baffling.

Rudy

joe221

12-24-06, 02:28 PM

Thanks Joe.

I guess I'll leave them alone for a week or two and allow them to finish whatever it is they are doing. Although a notice would have been nice. This slow speed for my HSI has been most baffling.

Rudy

I guess credits on service are in order! I wouldn't be just sitting on it. I've had VeriZon for 2 years now. 3K down for $30. It almost never breaks which is why I left Adelphia at the time.

jasonvr

12-26-06, 01:30 AM

I saw this (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls06/news/story?id=2706450) article on ESPN. It seems to be talking about local coverage, but also mentions TWC reaching an agreement to carry the NFL network for the week of the bowl game. I wonder if this is a national thing or just local to the east coast? Also wonder if it covers the HD version. Anyone heard anything from TWC out here?

delrmx01

12-27-06, 08:45 PM

bgooch

12-28-06, 12:31 PM

Agoura Hills cable franchise complicated by new school
Yerba Buena not included in contract
By Stephanie Bertholdo bertholdo@theacorn.com

Time Warner Cable reportedly has told Las Virgenes Unified School District officials it will not provide cable services to the new Yerba Buena Elementary School when it opens in March.

School district officials asked the city of Agoura Hills to negotiate on their behalf in the city’s cable franchise discussions.

Donald Zimring, deputy superintendent of the Las Virgenes Unified School District, asked the Agoura Hills City Council last week to refuse Time Warner a city franchise agreement extension unless the cable company agrees to provide service to the new Yerba Buena school.

Zimring said the media giant, which recently took over areas formerly served by Adelphia Cable, refused to include the new school in its contract because its address was not listed in the city’s current franchise agreement.

Agoura Hills city attorney Craig Steele said negotiations with cable companies have become “dicier” since a new law was passed allowing the state to control contracts between municipalities and cable operators. California Assembly Bill 2987 also opens up the competition to telephone companies.

Agoura Hills city officials said they would prefer to keep local control over their franchise agreement. Steele recommended that the council negotiate on the school’s behalf, but not make the city’s extension of services conditional on Time Warner’s Yerba Buena decision. Steele doesn’t want the state to move in and take local control away from the city.

Agoura Hills city manager Greg Ramirez said a strong message was conveyed to Time Warner officials Dec. 13 to work with the school district.

If the city does not extend Time Warner’s franchise agreement, it risks loss of cable service and up to $175,000 in future franchise fees, officials said. Ramirez believes Time Warner will agree to provide service to Yerba Buena once the city clarifies the service contract.

Patricia Fregoso-Cox, vice president of community affairs for Time Warner, said contract negotiations are still in the preliminary phase. The city has yet to give formal notice about the extension of the franchise agreement, she said.

“If a school is serviceable, it’s an honor and a privilege to provide that free cable service to schools,” Fregoso-Cox said.

“The current agreement stipulates service to all schools in Las Virgenes,” Ramirez said. But Ramirez said he didn’t believe the city should risk the agreement and make service to Yerba Buena a condition for extension.

“It’s not only money,” said Councilmember Harry Schwarz. “Community service is a big part of it.” Agoura Hills TV is aired on cable television, and local fire and sheriff’s departments need access to the community channel during emergencies.

If Time Warner refuses to provide service to Yerba Buena, Zimring said the district would be forced to pay tens of thousands of dollars for the installation of cable or fiber optics. Another option would be to pay for satellite services, he said.

Last week the Federal Communications Commission requested local governments become more responsive to outside cable competitors.

“The whole playing field is going to be redefined,” said Ramirez.

http://www.theacorn.com/news/2006/1228/Front_Page/001.html

hockeyamd

12-28-06, 02:14 PM

I was wondering why a few channels said they had to authorized when I checked my channel lineup online it has change again as of Dec 23.

http://www.timewarnerla.com/channellineups/dsp_chOutput.cfm?luType=B

I wonder when these changes will take place fully. I am upset I loose stations when the news ones are not even on yet.

PS They add KTLA HD but I bet it will not be on for the Rose Parade. Last year sucked to get it in HD only ABC had it and they had the Desperate House stars talking. Time to find an antenna.

dagware

12-28-06, 03:14 PM

Can someone please inform me? I just got off the phone with TWC's CS and I want my 5 minutes of conversation back !!! About a month and a half ago-- my HD channel line up showed PPV HD (431) as listed on the post line up schedule. I live in Simi Valley, so we had the update back in October. In any case, I didn't pay attention until now... channel 431 is gone !!?? I was planning on ordering the fight this Saturday (Ortiz vs. Lidell) but now I guess I can't.

The guy said that channel 431 and 414 is there but not available-- I kept insisting that it's on the post line up so why am I not getting it? He just kept on reitirating that, "it's there but not available..." Anyone experiencing the same thing?

Thanks in advance,
MD
Some of the systems don't have the bandwidth to add all the channels. So even though the channel guide info shows up, your area may not be able to get the channels until it is upgraded.

I'm serviced out of the Fullerton office, and we've had this problem for a long time. They keep telling us that an upgrade is on the way, but when it will actually happen is anyone's guess.

-Dan

joe221

12-28-06, 07:13 PM

fbrito

12-28-06, 09:34 PM

Do you have DiscoveryHDT? They simulcast the KTLA coverage.

Good to know, I am also in Fullerton.

hockeyamd

12-29-06, 02:36 AM

Thanks. I got Discovery HD when Time Warner took over so I guess I am covered.

jasonvr

12-30-06, 12:18 PM

hockeyamd

12-30-06, 12:54 PM

My guess is this is MTV HD.

Yes it is http://www.timewarnerla.com/channel...ut.cfm?luType=B new lineups as of Dec 23

Richard99

12-30-06, 01:09 PM

what's the best for picture quality/hdtv in Hollywood?

Sat or whoever took over Adelphia (Timewarner?). I would prefer catv if close, and which set top box?

Display is a pioneer elite 1140.

thx

dylan24

12-30-06, 05:05 PM

what's the best for picture quality/hdtv in Hollywood?

Sat or whoever took over Adelphia (Timewarner?). I would prefer catv if close, and which set top box?

Display is a pioneer elite 1140.

thx
I have the 1140 as well. TWC picture quality with HD has been very good so far. SD varies greatly. TWC customer service has been a nightmare for the last few months. If you read the last few pages of this thread you will know what I mean.

I can't comment on picture quality of sat but I know there's a controversy over D* not broadcasting in full HD.

dylan24

12-30-06, 05:08 PM

Well it looks like inHD2 has officially disappeared from my lineup (ch 423). A new channel has appeared on 414. No icon or program data available yet on my Moxi. Tuning to it gives me the "unauthorized" message.

Currently, the only info that is showing up is:
Music Choice: Alternative
Music
Horsham

My guess is this is MTV HD.
Same for me in Los Feliz. I have the Moto 6416. Lost INHD2 (423). "Gained" MHD (414). Programming info appears for MHD, but I also get the "unauthorized" message instead of a picture.

bruce73

12-30-06, 05:44 PM

Same for me in Los Feliz. I have the Moto 6416. Lost INHD2 (423). "Gained" MHD (414). Programming info appears for MHD, but I also get the "unauthorized" message instead of a picture.
Ditto here. MTV-HD. Terrific. :rolleyes: Must have happened over night, which also explains why my moto6200 was a little messed up this morning and I had to reboot for it to show the correct time.

fbrito

12-30-06, 09:21 PM

Same here in Fullerton

bgooch

12-31-06, 03:04 PM

Last year as we looked ahead there were dreams about our future cable operator sweeping in and finally setting the course right. Dare I say now looking back the Adelphia era may go down as the golden age of Los Angeles cable-TV.

I'm not going to slam a company for making bold moves, but didn't TWC realize they were purchasing a fixer-upper? Obviously some neighborhoods need more attention than others. But for many our first impression of TWC to quote Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."

A friend told me yesterday his decision to keep what he's got and did not sign up for TWC’s new offer. That sounds like good advice. Although I want more HDTV I'm not willing to pay through the nose for it. When compared to free over the air digital television is digital cable such a great value?

fareal

12-31-06, 03:23 PM

When compared to free over the air digital television is digital cable such a great value?

TWC HDTV plus an HD-DVR is the reason I signed up for TWC/Adelphia almost 6 months ago. I guess if the Tivo S3 (HD) wasn't so expensive I might consider pairing it with some free OTA HDTV and dumping TWC, but I don't think we're quite there yet.

bgooch

12-31-06, 04:27 PM

I'd like an HD Tivo but it would need to be compatible with VOD/switched video. I gave up on Moxi and was surprised old reliable Tivo series 2 has been more than adequate for my needs. My off air reception reaps 25 channels and with Tivo there is always something to watch.

jordanfsl

12-31-06, 05:40 PM

Anyone figured out if the UCLA-Washington game is on HD somewhere? I know FSN is broadcasting in HD, but it doesn't look like TWC has it anywhere

bruce73

12-31-06, 06:39 PM

Anyone figured out if the UCLA-Washington game is on HD somewhere? I know FSN is broadcasting in HD, but it doesn't look like TWC has it anywhere
Don't know about that game, but it appears that tonight's Lakers game will be telecast in HD on 413 (according to the guide).

jordanfsl

12-31-06, 06:57 PM

I used to have 413, now it has vanished.

Digital Puppy

12-31-06, 07:47 PM

Speaking of on-again-off-again channels, MHD, channel 414 has been "should abe available shortly" for a couple of days now. Has anyone been able to get this one? I really didn't want to wait on hold for an hour with TWC to find out. :rolleyes:

bruce73

12-31-06, 09:47 PM

So much for consistency. I do have 413 (whenever something is broadcast), but I get a "Not Authorized" message on 414, not that it will be "available shortly." Who the hell knows? :rolleyes:

bruce73

01-01-07, 11:10 AM

DISC-HD transmission problems with its parade coverage this morning. Pretty ironic as that's the one station that pretty much sets the bar for PQ. At least ABC is broadcasting in HD.

Digital Puppy

01-01-07, 11:27 AM

Wow, tons of stations with Rose Parade coverage today. Watching the parade on KTLAD channel 405 which looks pretty darn good.

markt170

01-01-07, 12:25 PM

Too bad we don't get ktla in encino. The discovery hd channel is messed up: the cell phone video of saddam's hanging looked better. abc coverage is unbearable: nothing but commercials and blabbering promotions. the dude from desperate housewives keeps calling it the rose bowl parade instead of the tournament of roses -- they'll never invite him back; they may not let him live. nothing on the new 413 channel, but last night the laker game was on 414, and the channel guide shows a few more home games coming up on that channel. happy hd new year everyone.

bruce73

01-01-07, 01:03 PM

Happy New Year to you, Mark, and thanks for the laughs. I'm not a huge parade fan, but the combo of DHD and the Rose Parade seemed like a perfect fit; guess not today. You're right on about ABC's coverage; finally had to turn it off. And what's-her-name from Grey's Anatomy isn't exactly Miss Personality. That has got to be the dullest trio ever assembled.

Saw the Laker game on 413 here in Los Feliz last night. 414 must be your version of same. Great PQ. Better than INHD's NBA-TV's coverage of the Suns/Pistons game, which seemed to be bandwidth-challenged.

joe221

01-01-07, 01:14 PM

Other than a minor glitch at the start DiscoveryHDT was perfect?? It may have been a local cable issue. TWC, who'd a thunk they'd have a problem? :D

markt170

01-01-07, 01:16 PM

You're right: Lakers were on 413; new channel (with nothing on it) is 414. And thanks for the comment on the Suns game. I thought it may have been my tv because it wasn't the normal pixilation problem; it was a more subtle problem.

I'm not a parade fan either, but I would think the hd gods would treat this almost like the Academy Awards or the Masters as one of the prime hd events of the year.

jordanfsl

01-01-07, 01:41 PM

I hate TWC. No 413 or 405 here in Toluca Lake.

bruce73

01-01-07, 02:05 PM

joe, I watched about half of the parade on ABC (until I could no longer take the banality of the commentators and ABC's gratuitous promos... :rolleyes: ) and kept checking back to Disc-HD. They never seemed to fix the problem (which I had thought might have something to do with their feed from KTLA, but then remembered that Sunrise Earth right before the parade started was showing the same problem).

mark, yeah, it was definitely INHD's broadcast. Lots of motion artifacts, similar to what I see on TNT-HD games. And if there is an HD god, he's probably on satellite. :D

dagware

01-01-07, 02:25 PM

And if there is an HD god, he's probably on satellite. :D
:p

-Dan

GaryRudolph

01-02-07, 12:47 AM

jasonvr

01-02-07, 01:10 AM

I'm just deciding whether to switch from D* to TWC. What finally made me consider it is is the Tivo Series 3. But, before making a switch:

1) Are the HD channels full 720p/1080i and not HD Lite like D*?
2) A few years ago with TWC (then Adelphia) the Moxi box was very slow on switching channels and having the picture appear. Is this still the case? I was always unsure if it was a problem with the Moxi, or something else.
3) Any comments on the analog quality on a 60" screen? I remember viewing the analog via the Moxi was unbearable, but viewing the analog via the TV was acceptable.
4) Are they still planning to kill the analog stations and go full digital?
5) Anyone successfully used a CableCard? The Tivo Series 3 would rely on this.

Thanks, Gary

I'll throw in a few answers here and leave some questions for others

2) Moxi box is still out there (I have one). It is still quite slow, but there is an update from Digeo that helps a lot. There is a large doubt in the community if we will ever see the update on TWC though. TWC also has the Moto 6412 and 6416 HD DVRs out there, but I hear they have their on sets of problems

3) I have always found it watchable on my 55", but I have never had satellite to really compare it to.

4) I believe the plan is still to go full digital, and I believe some areas already are.

5) Many people on this board are using cable cards, though I'm not sure how many are using them with the Tivo Series3 . Keep in mind that some functionality is lost with CableCard, such as VOD.