Channel 409, KCALHD, it now operational here. The guide also lists all programs which air continually. They mirror Channel 9. Picture quality [sidebarred] is only minimally better in HD, though. The Lakers air in half an hour so we'll see how it goes.

The Laker broadcast is in full HD. Pretty good!

The game looks very good here in Los Feliz (I was a little nervous, though, when the pre-game came in as SD upconvert). And if I only watch KCAL-HD for Lakers games, that's enough for me.

My HSI has also improved and is now consistently at the promised speed. Guess I have to put my TW bashing on pause for now. ;)

Is 80-17 the QAM channel for KCALHD (90007)? The game is on but it's not in HD.

Any of you guys having problems with the On Demand service? It hasn't worked for me for the last 3 to 4 days I just keep getting the Error Code. I wondering should I just wait for them to fix the problem or should I try calling customer support and get put on hold for a hour!!!

I had the same problem, sat on the phone on hold for several calls. The tech finally suggested what I didn't want to do, i.e., unplug the box and reset it (1 minute is all it needs). If it's powered off like that, all the guide reverts to To Be Announced until it repopulates, usually about 4 days for the full listings. I didn't want to take the suggestion. As it turns out, that fixed VOD plus there are several minor changes including added VOD options and a full listing for KCALHD.

Anyone having a reception problem in the Redondo Beach area? I'm getting pixelization on our HD channels.

My wife said some TW guys were working on the outside cables on Thursday. I'm not sure why because all of our wiring was upgraded several months when we added the digital/HD service.

It's not a cable card issue because I see the same problem on the TV cable card and the two cable cards into our Tivo Series 3.

Ok - here is an update.

I just spoke to a helpful Time Warner representative. On Thursday Time Warner "migrated" us over from the old Adelphia system to Time Warner. This resulted in substantial pixelization and signal degradation. The Time Warner representative confirmed that this has been a problem with the changeover but she claimed they have a fix they implement out at the street. We'll see when they come out on Monday.

This same problem may occur as Time Warner makes the switch from other older cable systems.

I may be shifting over to FiOS sooner that I thought.

If the problem is not fixed, there will likely be a mass exodus to FiOS.

Our HD picture quality via cable was excellent before this switch took place.

Hi, I'm new to this whole HDTV antenna business

I live in Tustin, CA zipcode 92782... condos

I was hoping to get some tips on which antennas would be best to get HDTV reception... Preferably indoor antenna

Also, another question was, my tv is an LCD TV with 1080i capability.. However, it doesnt have a period button that I've normally seen on other HDTVs to access HD channels like 2.1 or 7.1 or etc... How would I access these channels?

Thank you... this forum seems like a great place for me to learn about all this

Hi, I'm new to this whole HDTV antenna business

I live in Tustin, CA zipcode 92782... condos

I was hoping to get some tips on which antennas would be best to get HDTV reception... Preferably indoor antenna

Also, another question was, my tv is an LCD TV with 1080i capability.. However, it doesnt have a period button that I've normally seen on other HDTVs to access HD channels like 2.1 or 7.1 or etc... How would I access these channels?

Thank you... this forum seems like a great place for me to learn about all this

Your question is probably better asked in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=191672&goto=newpost). However, I will give you a little information. I am up in Anaheim Hills (not too far from you) and I use an RCA ANT537 Indoor Amplified Antenna and I can pick up everything. It is smaller than a loaf of bread and sits on top of my RPTV. It was fairly inexpensive.

Hi, I'm new to this whole HDTV antenna business

I live in Tustin, CA zipcode 92782... condos

I was hoping to get some tips on which antennas would be best to get HDTV reception... Preferably indoor antenna

Also, another question was, my tv is an LCD TV with 1080i capability.. However, it doesnt have a period button that I've normally seen on other HDTVs to access HD channels like 2.1 or 7.1 or etc... How would I access these channels?

Thank you... this forum seems like a great place for me to learn about all this
Check your manual, it should tell you what button on the remote acts as the period or dash (my mits WD62627 uses the "sub" button to put a dash between the numbers)

If you have HD channels from TW, why would you get OTA channels? I have a HD indoor antenna w/ a 6412 box, so I'm trying to figure out what benefits I would get.

If you have HD channels from TW, why would you get OTA channels? I have a HD indoor antenna w/ a 6412 box, so I'm trying to figure out what benefits I would get.

Well, for one, we don't know if he has TWC. Second, there are still things that can be picked up OTA that can not be picked up on TWC, such as KTLA, some of the multicast channels for CBS/NBC/ABC (I think a couple of them are now up in the 190 range on TWC), other PBS stations, and until recently, KCAL. Also remember, that there is no such thing as an "HD" antenna. Any antenna will do as long as it can pick up a signal, even those rabbit ears you got with your TV in the 70's will do if you are in range.

Press Release Source: Time Warner Cable

Time Warner Cable and KCAL 9 Present Lakers Basketball and Dodgers Baseball in Spectacular High Definition
Wednesday January 31, 2:09 pm ET
- KCAL 9 HD Debuts Friday, February 2 on Time Warner Cable Channel 409 -

LOS ANGELES, Jan. 31 /PRNewswire/ -- Time Warner Cable, a subsidiary of Time Warner Inc. (NYSE: TWX - News), and CBS Corporation's (NYSE: CBS.A - News, CBS - News) KCAL 9 today announced the launch of KCAL 9 HD, a new high-definition channel for customers of Time Warner Cable southern California.

Available as part of Time Warner Cable's basic HD service, KCAL 9 HD will be located on Time Warner Cable Channel 409 and will officially debut on Friday, February 2 at 5:30 p.m. with the Los Angeles Lakers' game at Indiana.

All 18 of KCAL's remaining 2006-07 regular season Lakers games, plus Lakers playoff games on KCAL, will be produced in high definition. The announcement coincides with the 30th anniversary of Lakers basketball on KCAL, the team's flagship station.

In addition, KCAL 9 HD plans to deliver all of its 2007 Los Angeles Dodgers game broadcasts in high definition beginning on Friday, March 30 with the Dodgers' Freeway Series game against the Angels.

KCAL 9 HD and sister station CBS 2 HD will also begin producing 11 hours of live, local newscasts in high definition each weekday beginning this spring, when the stations move into their new state-of-the art HD broadcast facility in Studio City, California.

KCAL 9 HD is available at no extra cost to all Time Warner Cable digital customers who have an HD receiver, and joins sister station KCBS (Channel 402), plus KNBC (404), KABC (407), KTTV (411) and KCET (412) on its local HD lineup.

Don Corsini, President & General Manager, KCAL 9 and CBS 2 stated: "The Lakers and Dodgers are two of the most prestigious sports franchises in the world and we are thrilled to be able to partner with Time Warner Cable to deliver pristine, high-definition broadcasts that will significantly add to the fans' viewing experience. It's the dawn of an exciting new era in local sports broadcasting."

"With this launch, Time Warner Cable proudly offers our customers the most complete local HD lineup on the market," said Jeffrey Hirsch, division president, Time Warner Cable. "Time Warner Cable is the first and currently the only cable/satellite service to distribute KCAL in high definition. It's another way Time Warner Cable strives to bring the very best content in the best possible quality to the communities we serve."

On August 1, 2006, Time Warner Cable completed its transaction with Comcast to assume operations for Comcast and Adelphia properties in southern California, making Time Warner Cable the largest cable provider in the Los Angeles market. Since the acquisition, Time Warner Cable has added many new services in southern California including, Dodgers on Demand and access to twenty channels of high-definition programming. For more information on Time Warner Cable, please visit our web site at www.timewarnercable.com

About KCAL 9

The winner of more local Emmy awards than any other station in the region over the past seven years, KCAL 9 is the leading broadcaster of local news and sports programming in Southern California. KCAL 9 produces six-and-a-half hours of live local newscasts each weekday and is the home of the nation's first three-hour, primetime local news broadcast. In addition, the station serves the community with newscasts at Noon, 2, 3 and 4 p.m. each weekday. In addition to its extensive Lakers and Dodgers coverage, KCAL 9 also airs the John R. Wooden Classic and, along with CBS 2, serves as the broadcast home of Special Olympics Southern California. In all, KCAL provides coverage of more than 100 major sporting events each year. Collectively, KCAL 9 and CBS 2 serve the Southland by broadcasting nearly 70 hours of live local news and sports news programming per week.

About Time Warner Cable

Time Warner Cable owns and manages cable systems serving 13.5 million subscribers in 33 states. Passing approximately 26 million homes, Time Warner Cable includes some of the most technologically advanced and best-clustered cable systems in the country, with nearly 85 percent of the Company's customers located in five geographic regions: New York, Texas, Ohio, the Carolinas and southern California. Leveraging its leadership in innovation and quality customer care, Time Warner Cable delivers advanced products and services such as video on demand, high definition television, digital video recorders, high-speed data and Digital Phone. Time Warner Cable is a subsidiary of Time Warner Inc. (NYSE: TWX - News).


Source: Time Warner Cable

Check your manual, it should tell you what button on the remote acts as the period or dash (my mits WD62627 uses the "sub" button to put a dash between the numbers)

I have a Syntax Olevia HVE32 LCD TV.... the manual is very vague.. no info about the dashes or periods...

Any help?

Well, for one, we don't know if he has TWC. Second, there are still things that can be picked up OTA that can not be picked up on TWC, such as KTLA, some of the multicast channels for CBS/NBC/ABC (I think a couple of them are now up in the 190 range on TWC), other PBS stations, and until recently, KCAL. Also remember, that there is no such thing as an "HD" antenna. Any antenna will do as long as it can pick up a signal, even those rabbit ears you got with your TV in the 70's will do if you are in range.don't forget that good OTA reception is likely superior to HD through cable due the the who the hell knows extra comression that TW can (and likely does) put on the HD channels

I have a Syntax Olevia HVE32 LCD TV.... the manual is very vague.. no info about the dashes or periods...

Any help?
hmm....couldn't find that model number, are you positive about the model number, and positive that the tv has an ATSC tuner?

Also,
i had a tech drop in a SA cable card yesterday, so far so good, except that i just noticed 409 (KCALHD) has the "You must have a digital STB for this channel" pretty hilarious considering a day ago it was in the clear without the CC, and that TW can't "legally" encrypt it, plus the fact that all the other HD-Plus Tier channels work fine with the CC (ESPNHD, HDNET Movies, HDNET, INHD, TNTHD, DiscoveryHD, etc...) i guess i'll call tomorrow

409 appeared today in Encino --- at least that's when I noticed it. Shame on me for not keeping up with this forum and missing Friday's Lakers game. That is an excellent and unexpected development. KTLA would be nice, but I'll be watching enough HD hoops without needing to check out the Clippers.
Now what's the deal with 431 the ppv hd channel? Am I supposed to pay to watch some meaningless hockey game? Has anyone accessed this channel?

I'm a little confused about what's going on with Time Warner pricing schemes - so what's the deal with channels and price packages, are we basically grandfathered into the old Adelphia packages indefinitely until we call and ask to switch to Time Warner's?

I'm super confused about this because with the channel realignment I lost some channels and gained others, my bill changed slightly, yet the channels I do get don't seem to fit into any Time Warner package... *baffled* If I had to map it I'd say I had Basic Digital with 2 Tiers added but that's just a close match not exact.

I'm not upset about this certainly - all the in-the-clear channels are great for my QAM tuner - just confused... and debating calling in to see if I can save $5/mo, but I rather get an idea here before I get a likely confused customer service rep on the phone.

You guys are right about that realignment, even more channels showed up in the clear on my QAM today. Looks like I gained around 10. This changeover is turning out far better than I hoped for.

I'm in Hermosa Beach (TWC) and just wanted to see if anyone else noticed how bad the Super Bowl broadcast looked. So much pixelation! So much terrible compression!

There was another guy from Redondo on here saying that many of his HD channels got significantly worse over the last week and I can definitely say that my HD channels now look so bad (especially MHD and even HBOHD) that standard def analog is looking pretty good to me right now.

Anyone else noticing a recent change? Is it limited to the South Bay? Can it really be possible that TWC is compressing their signal so much (especially for something huge like the Super Bowl) that it makes their HD signal almost unwatchable? I feel like asking for my money back! This not High Def... by any definition.

-- Peter

Yeah, there was definitely breakup early on. Then it settled down. The rain litterally fuzzed out the images though. What I noticed was that a whole bunch of the commercials were in SD and many in Wide screen SD!!! :eek:

I believe you are correct about the grandfathering. I finally called last week and they put me on the "normal" menu of offerings. BTW they were pretty good about giving me discounts, so it turned out to be a worthwhile call.

Yeah, there was definitely breakup early on. Then it settled down. The rain litterally fuzzed out the images though. What I noticed was that a whole bunch of the commercials were in SD and many in Wide screen SD!!! :eek:
I moved this weekend, but i was able to race around and get everything hooked up in time to see the half time show and the 2nd half in HD OTA, with 5.1, the first half through cable didnt look as good, could be extra compression, and i'm sure the rain doesn't help the PQ when comrpessed

Yea I too just noticed 431 was added yesterday and if you have NBA Pass or Center Ice it's a great thing! Right now it says you need to subscribe but I do have CI so I wonder if it goes on and off during game time. We will see very soon!

RE: Super Bowl

I live in the Northern end of Hermosa Beach and didn't have any complaints about the picture last night except the use of cameras w/ fogged lenes (come on they had about 60 cameras to choose from). No macroblocking or any other problems, crystal clear.

1080p / 40" LCD JVC.

Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like a problem that's limited to my condo complex. Time to call TWC....

RE: Super Bowl

I live in the Northern end of Hermosa Beach and didn't have any complaints about the picture last night except the use of cameras w/ fogged lenes (come on they had about 60 cameras to choose from). No macroblocking or any other problems, crystal clear.

1080p / 40" LCD JVC.

I'm in Hermosa Beach (TWC) and just wanted to see if anyone else noticed how bad the Super Bowl broadcast looked. So much pixelation! So much terrible compression!

There was another guy from Redondo on here saying that many of his HD channels got significantly worse over the last week and I can definitely say that my HD channels now look so bad (especially MHD and even HBOHD) that standard def analog is looking pretty good to me right now.

Anyone else noticing a recent change? Is it limited to the South Bay? Can it really be possible that TWC is compressing their signal so much (especially for something huge like the Super Bowl) that it makes their HD signal almost unwatchable? I feel like asking for my money back! This not High Def... by any definition.

-- Peter

TWC is scheduled to come out this afternoon for the attempted fix. I'll post the results. The rep I talked to on the phone last week conceded that the recent switch from the legacy Adelphia system to TWC has resulted in these problems. She contended that they have come up with a fix but I'm not sure what they can do from the street. It seems that there is more compression on TWC.

I have the signal running via cable card into a 60" Sony XBR2 so the difference was immediately apparent. As I previously mentioned, the HD signal was excellent before this change over - no complaints.

I'll switch to FiOS if TWC can't restore the picture quality to its previous level.

I'm a little confused about what's going on with Time Warner pricing schemes - so what's the deal with channels and price packages, are we basically grandfathered into the old Adelphia packages indefinitely until we call and ask to switch to Time Warner's?

Basically, that's the story. You can keep what you have as long as you like. What they do say is that once you switch to a TW package, you can't go back to an Adelphia one, although there's been at least one case quoted on here of someone who did that with assistance from a supervisor - apparently, the person concerned was misinformed as to what channels they would get in the TW package.

My personal feeling is that there will come a point somewhere down the line where TW stops offering this option, as it must be a nuisance to have to operate two price structures.

anyone here currently using cablecard with TW? I have the HD-Tier and all the channels come in fine (ESPNHD, HDNet, HDNet-Movies, UHD, MHD, DiscHD, INHD, TNTHD, big-4 networks) except for channel 409 KCALHD, before i dropped the cable card in, this channel came through in the clear QAM, but now with the cable card it shows me a screen saying i need a digital set top box, just wondering if anyone else has the same problem before i get to wait on hold for an hour to be told i need a STB, and have to explain how things work in the real world to a CSR

I'm in Hermosa Beach (TWC) and just wanted to see if anyone else noticed how bad the Super Bowl broadcast looked. So much pixelation! So much terrible compression!

Anyone else noticing a recent change? Is it limited to the South Bay? Can it really be possible that TWC is compressing their signal so much (especially for something huge like the Super Bowl) that it makes their HD signal almost unwatchable? I feel like asking for my money back! This not High Def... by any definition.

-- Peter

Looked very good in the Eagle Rock feed; the half time show did have a few pixelation/breakup/grad banding issues with the smoke and strobes, and there was some trouble with the audio feed for the first few minutes of the game (CBS's fault, I think), but overall it looked very good. Watching on a JVC DiLA 70" 1920x1080 native set, about 12 feet back.

I believe TW does not compress the HD signal at all (for now, anyway). They just pass the transport stream along.

Incidentally, KCAL 9 finally showed up in the Eagle Rock feed today, and the 414 music channel is also back. I had some college hoops on 413 on Sunday, but no audio. Now it's just uprezzed SD color bars.

anyone here currently using cablecard with TW? I have the HD-Tier and all the channels come in fine (ESPNHD, HDNet, HDNet-Movies, UHD, MHD, DiscHD, INHD, TNTHD, big-4 networks) except for channel 409 KCALHD, before i dropped the cable card in, this channel came through in the clear QAM, but now with the cable card it shows me a screen saying i need a digital set top box, just wondering if anyone else has the same problem before i get to wait on hold for an hour to be told i need a STB, and have to explain how things work in the real world to a CSR

I didn't have KCAL HD as of noon, so on a whim I popped out the cablecard and found it on the QAM tuner as 104-3 (on my set, it's one or the other).

The I put the cable card back in, cycled power to the set, checked the cablecard setup screen, and when everything came back, there was KCAL HD on 409.

I didn't have KCAL HD as of noon, so on a whim I popped out the cablecard and found it on the QAM tuner as 104-3 (on my set, it's one or the other).

The I put the cable card back in, cycled power to the set, checked the cablecard setup screen, and when everything came back, there was KCAL HD on 409.
hmmm....maybe i'll play around with it while i'm waiting on hold, i just don't want to do anything to mess up the TVGOS info that's downloading...

hmmm....maybe i'll play around with it while i'm waiting on hold, i just don't want to do anything to mess up the TVGOS info that's downloading...

How do you get a guide with a cablecard? I have no guide...

How do you get a guide with a cablecard? I have no guide...
some tv's have them, the most popular one seems to be TV-Guide On Screen (TVGOS), it gets the programming info from datacasting through PBS' analog channel (28), but it's a little slow (i can live with it to save 13.25 a month)

TW came out late this afternoon. The tech was helpful but could not fix the pixelization problem. He said they have had other complaints since the changeover and mentioned something about the signal coming from Van Nuys. I have a FiOS appointment set up in ten days.

here we go, i still cant get 409 (KCAL-HD) through the cablecard even though all the other HD's come through fine, 409 gives me the promo screen that says "You must have a digital receiver to receive this channel" called three times, first two times they reactivated the CC, last time they said they needed to send a tech, i highly doubt the tech will do anything but swap the CC's then scratch his head, and tell me my tv doesnt work, i can tune in 409 as 116.4 through unencrypted QAM if i pull out the CC...we'll see...

can anyone else confirm that the guide information for mtv2 (ch 118 i believe) is way off? possibly hours, if not an entire day?

i only record 1 show from the channel, and it hasnt recorded it properly since my changeover, which was in october (!!!)

for the record, i try to record subeterranean at 1 am on mondays, when the guide says its on.

a quick check of the mtv2 site says its on sundays at 1. couple that with the fact that the right show is never on according to the guide, and i think its been messed up for months.

I didn't have KCAL HD as of noon, so on a whim I popped out the cablecard and found it on the QAM tuner as 104-3 (on my set, it's one or the other).

The I put the cable card back in, cycled power to the set, checked the cablecard setup screen, and when everything came back, there was KCAL HD on 409.

Thanks for the head's up. My HP/Sharp finds it at 104.5 in West LA 90025.

can anyone else confirm that the guide information for mtv2 (ch 118 i believe) is way off? possibly hours, if not an entire day?

i only record 1 show from the channel, and it hasnt recorded it properly since my changeover, which was in october (!!!)

for the record, i try to record subeterranean at 1 am on mondays, when the guide says its on.

a quick check of the mtv2 site says its on sundays at 1. couple that with the fact that the right show is never on according to the guide, and i think its been messed up for months.

When the guide is off, it's usually an East coast - West coast thing, so if the guide says 1 AM and it's not there, try recording at 10 PM.

some tv's have them, the most popular one seems to be TV-Guide On Screen (TVGOS), it gets the programming info from datacasting through PBS' analog channel (28), but it's a little slow (i can live with it to save 13.25 a month)

Do you have to do anything to activate it (like sit on PBS' analog channel for several hours)?

I do have a 'guide' function on my TV, but it just comes up blank...

Do you have to do anything to activate it (like sit on PBS' analog channel for several hours)?

I do have a 'guide' function on my TV, but it just comes up blank...
There isn't a lot of "official" info on how it works, but when you initially activate the guide there's a 24-hour period where it downloads the data from PBS analog, while the TV is off, so if you plan on trying it, activate the guide, just before you plan on not watching tv for a while (you can still watch tv of course, but the guide won't download data until the tv is off), after that initial 24 hour period (although the actual time can vary significantly from what everyone says), the guide will download days 1,2,5, and 8 each day, until the complete guide is filled in

TW came out late this afternoon. The tech was helpful but could not fix the pixelization problem. He said they have had other complaints since the changeover and mentioned something about the signal coming from Van Nuys. I have a FiOS appointment set up in ten days.
Where abouts do you live in Redondo? I'm in North Redondo (north of Artesia), and still can't get FiOS HSI or TV? And no ETA on when it might become available in my area. Thanks in advance.

About 5 blocks south of Artesia, we now can get FiOS HSI and TV. Not interested since I just had a horrible experience with Verizon's support and canned my DSL service. Oh, and I like my MOXI.

Where abouts do you live in Redondo? I'm in North Redondo (north of Artesia), and still can't get FiOS HSI or TV? And no ETA on when it might become available in my area. Thanks in advance.

I'm in the same area and FiOS is now available. I thought FiOS service was available in all of North Redondo. Have you checked recently with Verizon?

Just filed a complaint with the LA Franchise Board, and sent a letter to the FCC, the "management" at TW basically stated that they aren't allowing CableCARD customers to tune KCAL-HD as a ploy to get people to get STB's, this is effectively encrypting an OTA channel, an engineering manager is supposed to call me back to explain it to me in words i'll understand (i'm sure that will happen)

Just filed a complaint with the LA Franchise Board, and sent a letter to the FCC, the "management" at TW basically stated that they aren't allowing CableCARD customers to tune KCAL-HD as a ploy to get people to get STB's, this is effectively encrypting an OTA channel, an engineering manager is supposed to call me back to explain it to me in words i'll understand (i'm sure that will happen)

That doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm on a cablecard and am seeing KCAL on 409 in the Eagle Rock division.

There isn't a lot of "official" info on how it works, but when you initially activate the guide there's a 24-hour period where it downloads the data from PBS analog, while the TV is off, so if you plan on trying it, activate the guide, just before you plan on not watching tv for a while (you can still watch tv of course, but the guide won't download data until the tv is off), after that initial 24 hour period (although the actual time can vary significantly from what everyone says), the guide will download days 1,2,5, and 8 each day, until the complete guide is filled in

I don't think that will work for me. I have no way to "activate" the guide. I just have a button on the remote which says "guide", and when I press that a graphic appears across the full width at the bottom of the screen which is blank, but it does have what looks like a Microsoft Windows logo on its left hand side. This is a JVC LcOS (DiLA) set.

So if I subscribe to both HBO and the HD tier, do I get both HBO east and west coast HD feeds (ie. 427 and 502)?

That doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm on a cablecard and am seeing KCAL on 409 in the Eagle Rock division.
I'm in canoga park, so i guess my cable is out of chatsworth, I don't get any premiums, but get ESPN, INHD, HDNets, UHD, TNT, etc... generally considered the HD-Tier, but for 409 it shows me the screen saying a digital receiver is required (shows a picture of their HD STB's), I can tune it without the cable card (comes in as channel 116.4), i heard second hand from the tech they sent to my house that it's because they don't want cable card customers to be able to tune it, which i'm pretty sure is in violation of the FCC mandate about encrypting OTA channels or the mandate about providing CC's for customers on a 750+ MHz system (or both), i mean i could watch it off my antenna, but one of the points of cable is not having to d*ck around with an antenna

So if I subscribe to both HBO and the HD tier, do I get both HBO east and west coast HD feeds (ie. 427 and 502)?
No. HBO-HD (West Coast) is found in both the 400 HD block and the 500 premium channel block, but the East Coast channels are all SD.

So if I subscribe to both HBO and the HD tier, do I get both HBO east and west coast HD feeds (ie. 427 and 502)?

No. HBO-HD (West Coast) is found in both the 400 HD block and the 500 premium channel block, but the East Coast channels are all SD.

Hmmm. The listings show 502 as being an HBO HD channel which runs its shows 3 hours before 427 does, which was why I asked the question.

I'm in canoga park, so i guess my cable is out of chatsworth, I don't get any premiums, but get ESPN, INHD, HDNets, UHD, TNT, etc... generally considered the HD-Tier, but for 409 it shows me the screen saying a digital receiver is required (shows a picture of their HD STB's), I can tune it without the cable card (comes in as channel 116.4), i heard second hand from the tech they sent to my house that it's because they don't want cable card customers to be able to tune it, which i'm pretty sure is in violation of the FCC mandate about encrypting OTA channels or the mandate about providing CC's for customers on a 750+ MHz system (or both), i mean i could watch it off my antenna, but one of the points of cable is not having to d*ck around with an antenna

I have exactly the same service as you, and I get 409 with a cablecard, which is why I said that what they told you makes no sense...

I have exactly the same service as you, and I get 409 with a cablecard, which is why I said that what they told you makes no sense...
Some clown from TW is supposed to call me, i've also sent emails to the KCAL and TW contacts listed in one of the news articles anouncing KCALHD; the TW rep said she forwarded my email to the tech group, can anyone direct me to specifcs of rules/regs about encrypting OTA channels, and requiring cable co's to provide cableCARDs if they have a 750 MHz+ system?

Hmmm. The listings show 502 as being an HBO HD channel which runs its shows 3 hours before 427 does, which was why I asked the question.
Interesting. My guide (Eagle Rock) shows 427 and 502 both as HBO-HD, but the schedules are identical, indicating West Coast. I do get the HBO-East channels in the 500 block, but they are all SD.

Interesting. My guide (Eagle Rock) shows 427 and 502 both as HBO-HD, but the schedules are identical, indicating West Coast. I do get the HBO-East channels in the 500 block, but they are all SD.

Your subscription includes ONE HBO HD Channel (West) and HBO-EAST in SD along with the other HBO channels.

TW maps HBO to be in the 400s with the HD channels and 500s to be near the other HBO SD channels. They do a lot of this doubling up so CNN, ESPN etc show up twice, same thing, different number.

I'm in the same area and FiOS is now available. I thought FiOS service was available in all of North Redondo. Have you checked recently with Verizon?
Thanks for the input. However, can you be a little more specific about your location? I'm on Voorhees Avenue, near Felton. Very close to the intersection of Inglewood and Artesia. I just used Verizon's FiOS online availability tool, using my address, and they say that service is not yet available to me. I can't use my phone number, since I use Vonage.

Also, do you have the service? If so, how does it compare to Adelphia/TWC in terms of features, picture quality, and price?

TIA.

Your subscription includes ONE HBO HD Channel (West) and HBO-EAST in SD along with the other HBO channels.

TW maps HBO to be in the 400s with the HD channels and 500s to be near the other HBO SD channels. They do a lot of this doubling up so CNN, ESPN etc show up twice, same thing, different number.
Yes, I know. I'm not the one with the question.

Some clown from TW is supposed to call me, i've also sent emails to the KCAL and TW contacts listed in one of the news articles anouncing KCALHD; the TW rep said she forwarded my email to the tech group, can anyone direct me to specifcs of rules/regs about encrypting OTA channels, and requiring cable co's to provide cableCARDs if they have a 750 MHz+ system?

Here is the reg (http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=62a3ff084a2fb2ffbe17b6d8b4e56142&rgn=div8&view=text&node=47:4.0.1.1.4.11.3.15&idno=47) regarding cable cards on 750MHz systems.

Some clown from TW is supposed to call me, i've also sent emails to the KCAL and TW contacts listed in one of the news articles anouncing KCALHD; the TW rep said she forwarded my email to the tech group, can anyone direct me to specifcs of rules/regs about encrypting OTA channels, and requiring cable co's to provide cableCARDs if they have a 750 MHz+ system?

Section D of this document (http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=62a3ff084a2fb2ffbe17b6d8b4e56142&rgn=div8&view=text&node=47:4.0.1.1.4.4.3.5&idno=47) may apply:

(d) Availability of signals. (1) Local commercial television stations carried in fulfillment of the requirements of this section shall be provided to every subscriber of a cable system. Such signals shall be viewable via cable on all television receivers of a subscriber which are connected to a cable system by a cable operator or for which a cable operator provides a connection.

Thanks for the input. However, can you be a little more specific about your location? I'm on Voorhees Avenue, near Felton. Very close to the intersection of Inglewood and Artesia. I just used Verizon's FiOS online availability tool, using my address, and they say that service is not yet available to me. I can't use my phone number, since I use Vonage.

Also, do you have the service? If so, how does it compare to Adelphia/TWC in terms of features, picture quality, and price?

TIA.

I am a few blocks west of Aviation near Mira Costa. Perhaps they have not started wiring yet on the other side of Aviation. Hopefully they will get to you soon.

I won't have the service until next week. Before the recent system change on TWC, the picture quality was excellent. Now the pixelization is terrible. I'll be satisfied if FiOS matches the quality. It should given that it is fiber optic.

The price is slightly better. I'm using cable cards, Tivo and I have TV Guide on my XBR2 so I won't be using the FiOS features.

I am a few blocks west of Aviation near Mira Costa. Perhaps they have not started wiring yet on the other side of Aviation. Hopefully they will get to you soon.

I won't have the service until next week. Before the recent system change on TWC, the picture quality was excellent. Now the pixelization is terrible. I'll be satisfied if FiOS matches the quality. It should given that it is fiber optic.

The price is slightly better. I'm using cable cards, Tivo and I have TV Guide on my XBR2 so I won't be using the FiOS features.
Thanks again. I don't know if this would be the appropriate forum, but I would really like to hear about your experience with FiOS after your install; particularly in comparison with TWC (which might make it relevant to this forum).

Thanks for the input. However, can you be a little more specific about your location? I'm on Voorhees Avenue, near Felton. Very close to the intersection of Inglewood and Artesia. I just used Verizon's FiOS online availability tool, using my address, and they say that service is not yet available to me. I can't use my phone number, since I use Vonage.

Also, do you have the service? If so, how does it compare to Adelphia/TWC in terms of features, picture quality, and price?

TIA.

If I were in your position I would not rely on the online availability tool. I would call the FIOS toll free number directly and see if the service is available in your area.

Rudy

got a voicemail around 8:30 AM from a very polite TW rep on my cell phone saying the problem with KCALHD had been fixed (checked and it has), i'm gonna call the guy back and ask why i was lied to so many times by TW reps when trying to have the problem resolved, it seems like when you ask a question and the person doesn't know the answer they just make something up, instead of admitting they don't know

I'm turned off by TWC's prices.

One HD DVR for $13.95 breaks down to $8.95 for the equipment rental and $4.95 for DVR service, this on top of $44.95 for the regular price of digital cable brings the total to $58.90 before any additional tiers, premium channels and taxes. Plus a $50 refundable deposit on the DVR.

They offer promotions like $29.95 for digital cable good for six months but $44.95 is their regular price.

So anyone still locked into the old Adelphia regular prices be aware of accepting any promotional rate because standard rate will automatically apply after the promotion ends.

I'm turned off by TWC's prices.

One HD DVR for $13.95 breaks down to $8.95 for the equipment rental and $4.95 for DVR service, this on top of $44.95 for the regular price of digital cable brings the total to $58.90 before any additional tiers, premium channels and taxes. Plus a $50 refundable deposit on the DVR.

They offer promotions like $29.95 for digital cable good for six months but $44.95 is their regular price.

So anyone still locked into the old Adelphia regular prices be aware of accepting any promotional rate because standard rate will automatically apply after the promotion ends.
For me the HDDVR (SA8300 HDDVR) works out to $15.00 a month (box rental, dvr service, and remote rental), i've got my cable card working, and should have a 1394 harddrive any day now that can record digital from my tv, and save me 13.25 a month

hey twelvepbrs

when your new set up is working would you post it here if your tv passes hi def to your firewire drive?

hey twelvepbrs

when your new set up is working would you post it here if your tv passes hi def to your firewire drive?
i'll definitely let yaw know, hopefully the drive will be here tomorrow or sat, according to my tv's manual it can output any DTV signal to a DTVlink AVHD over 1394, so i'm pretty sure it'll work fine w/off the air, unencrypted qam, but i'll make sure to test it with espnhd and hdnets also

Thanks again. I don't know if this would be the appropriate forum, but I would really like to hear about your experience with FiOS after your install; particularly in comparison with TWC (which might make it relevant to this forum).

The comparison with TWC, especially after the recent change in picture quality, makes this relevant here. I'll try to post something after the installation next week.

I'm turned off by TWC's prices.

One HD DVR for $13.95 breaks down to $8.95 for the equipment rental and $4.95 for DVR service, this on top of $44.95 for the regular price of digital cable brings the total to $58.90 before any additional tiers, premium channels and taxes. Plus a $50 refundable deposit on the DVR.

They offer promotions like $29.95 for digital cable good for six months but $44.95 is their regular price.

So anyone still locked into the old Adelphia regular prices be aware of accepting any promotional rate because standard rate will automatically apply after the promotion ends.

I am unsure what you are warning us of here... under Adelphia's pricing I was paying the below as recently as October 2006:


Classic Cable 51.56
(Broadcast Basic $12.00 Expanded Basic $39.56)
Digital Plus 5.00
Silver Advantage Pak 59.95
( Includes Digital Basic; HBO The Works; And Discounted High-speed Internet At $ 36.12 ) You Save Over $10 w/ This Pkg!
HD Plus 5.00
DVR Equipment 13.90

Seems that the TW rate for digital cable (which includes the former analog cable and the lowest tier of digital cable) at $44.95 you quoted are even LESS than the Classic Cable $51.96 I used to pay under Adelphia. This is before any promotional discounts that were available back then.

TW is charging LESS than Adelphia, it can get more when you start adding the tiers, but in my case the rate is still lower with THREE of the $5 digital tiers.

So BEWARE STAYING WITH ADELPHIA PRICING, you can get it less with TW packages, and they are even throwing in short-time incentives ($20 off/month for 6-12 months) for those disgruntled customers they are trying to win back.

Comparing your subscription to mine is like apples to oranges.

I am not interested in over 200 channels of digital cable. I like CSPAN 2 but I’m not paying for multiple levels of service just to keep what was part of the legacy channel lineup. TWC is a smart outfit who considered the fallout before implementing their channel realignment. Good for you they chose wisely. For me I was better served by Adelphia.

New subscribers or existing subscribers who elect TWC’s pricing no longer have the option of subscribing to broadcast basic together with HD plus without also paying for digital basic. Requiring multiple tier subscriptions to continue receiving what had previously been part of the broadcast basic channel lineup adds up to a rate increase for me. There was a time cable companies were not allowed to require intermediate levels of tier programming before making premium programming available to a subscriber. In my opinion a cable subscriber shouldn’t be required to pay for digital basic to qualify for the HD tier.

I concede Adelphia not long before completion of the sale to TWC did some of their own channel realignment and price increases. My interpretation of those actions were to ease the way for the eventual standardization of the channel lineups finishing up now. I reassert TWC will charge me more for less than what Adelphia’s offerings were.

Comparing your subscription to mine is like apples to oranges.

I am not interested in over 200 channels of digital cable. I like CSPAN 2 but I’m not paying for multiple levels of service just to keep what was part of the legacy channel lineup. TWC is a smart outfit who considered the fallout before implementing their channel realignment. Good for you they chose wisely. For me I was better served by Adelphia.

New subscribers or existing subscribers who elect TWC’s pricing no longer have the option of subscribing to broadcast basic together with HD plus without also paying for digital basic. Requiring multiple tier subscriptions to continue receiving what had previously been part of the broadcast basic channel lineup adds up to a rate increase for me. There was a time cable companies were not allowed to require intermediate levels of tier programming before making premium programming available to a subscriber. In my opinion a cable subscriber shouldn’t be required to pay for digital basic to qualify for the HD tier.

I concede Adelphia not long before completion of the sale to TWC did some of their own channel realignment and price increases. My interpretation of those actions were to ease the way for the eventual standardization of the channel lineups finishing up now. I reassert TWC will charge me more for less than what Adelphia’s offerings were.
I was also under the impression that if you switched from Adelphia to TWC, your HD channel lineup might change depending on where you lived (meaning you might lose ESPN2HD, or other channels, but might gain some channels too)

I was also under the impression that if you switched from Adelphia to TWC, your HD channel lineup might change depending on where you lived (meaning you might lose ESPN2HD, or other channels, but might gain some channels too)

that would depend on the megahertz of the system in your area. Another wrinkle would be KTLA which is grandfathered on the original TWC LA system and not yet available regionwide.

the last time Adelphia realigned their channel lineup they unified the west and east sides for the most part. prior to this there wasn't an expanded basic tier on the eagle rock headend. Afterwards classic cable was about $10 more per month compared to the previous offering and broadcast basic was introduced for what was it $12.95?

hey twelvepbrs

when your new set up is working would you post it here if your tv passes hi def to your firewire drive?
The new setup works!!! (i'd have played with it more before the post but i was already on a very-very-very long lunch break)... I have a mitsu 62627 connected to a RCA Sceniuim 2160 (160 GB), via firewire, and i just did some quick tests through the cablecard and it was able to record and playback from KCETHD and ESPNHD, hopefully i'll be STB free by the end of next week (gonna give it a few days make sure everything works well)

The new setup works!!! (i'd have played with it more before the post but i was already on a very-very-very long lunch break)... I have a mitsu 62627 connected to a RCA Sceniuim 2160 (160 GB), via firewire, and i just did some quick tests through the cablecard and it was able to record and playback from KCETHD and ESPNHD, hopefully i'll be STB free by the end of next week (gonna give it a few days make sure everything works well)

so your tv has some sort of built in interface that lists what you have recorded? but i assume no series recording options etc etc?

so your tv has some sort of built in interface that lists what you have recorded? but i assume no series recording options etc etc?
I can definitely schedule a recording in advance (using the TV's menus or the TVGOS EPG), but i'm not sure about series (will post when i know more)

Thought I'd chime in regarding what I've experienced since the channel realignment. I live in the Mid-Wilshire district and I've noticed a degredation in HD signal quality. While there's no macroblocking, my HD channels flicker between blurry and poor color resolution to sharp and high color resolution. TNTHD and MHD are the worse channels but even DiscoveryHD has issues.

Besides Hermosa/Redondo Beach, anyone else experiencing this?

Thought I'd chime in regarding what I've experienced since the channel realignment. I live in the Mid-Wilshire district and I've noticed a degredation in HD signal quality. While there's no macroblocking, my HD channels flicker between blurry and poor color resolution to sharp and high color resolution. TNTHD and MHD are the worse channels but even DiscoveryHD has issues.

Besides Hermosa/Redondo Beach, anyone else experiencing this?

West LA here. Same things happening to me.

Does anyone know what clear qam channel KTLA HD is on in Moorpark TWC?

Does anyone know what clear qam channel KTLA HD is on in Moorpark TWC?

The answer is...it's not. I believe it's only on "Legacy" TWC systems. Seems rather strange that a WARNER network affiliate isn't shown in HD on what is now a WARNER cable network.

Regarding the comparison of the Adelphia packages to what TWC offers, I had the Adelphia Platinum Pac + Internet. Everything except the DVR (tried the Moxi and hated the HD PQ). After the conversion, I picked up a couple of new HD offerings, but there were more available that required moving to a TWC program. The big difference to me was the change from a one speed internet cable service (I believe some areas did have a restricted speed service available at a slight discount, but not in SB) to the TWC 3 tier speed offering. As soon as the conversion happened, I had a "governor" on the internet throttle, that was quite noticeable, so I had to upgrade to get back to close to the speed that I had with Adelphia. That is the biggest downer in my view. That is basically the difference in cost between what I was paying vs now. I went with TWCs Digital Extreme and mid-tier Internet. The Extreme package includes an HD-DVR, so in the end, I picked up that service plus many more HD channels than what Adelphia offered. It's about a fair trade-off except for the drop in internet speed.
Regarding PQ, as soon as the conversion happened, I also experienced severe macro-blocking in both HD and SD, to the point of being unusable. I called, they sent out a tech, he looked at the problem, went down the street and tweaked something and presto - No more macro-blocking. They gave me an $80 credit for that one. They also did the 6 month promo pricing, I think it is about $20 off when I did the package change.
They said that after 6 months all old Adelphia packages will be automatically converted to the TWC structure anyway, so you may want to use the window to grab the 6 month discount offer.

The whole question of internet speed has been covered extensively over on DSL Reports. The main reason that many people perceive that speed has dropped under TW is that Adelphia's provisioning files had about 20% "overhead" built into the file e.g. anyone on a 4 meg download package was provisioned close to 4.8 meg. TW provision at close to the advertised speed, so there isn't that same "buffer" there. What appears to be going on is that TW are now setting their "standard" package (at least in the greater LA area) at 6/512, and are in the process of rolling it out (I was reprovisioned to it overnight on Thursday last).

Also re the "automatic" conversion of former Adelphia pricing packages, there's been nothing official to suggest this - indeed, TW's site still makes it clear that former Adelphia/Comcast customers can stay with their old packages. Personally, I think there will be a point where TW discontinue this, but they haven't given any indication of this as yet.

Also re the "automatic" conversion of former Adelphia pricing packages, there's been nothing official to suggest this - indeed, TW's site still makes it clear that former Adelphia/Comcast customers can stay with their old packages. Personally, I think there will be a point where TW discontinue this, but they haven't given any indication of this as yet.
That was from the rep on the phone, so it certainly isn't gospel...

does anyone here have any clue/idea/wish/info/etc... regarding when/if/ever timewarner will provide it's analog channels as digital? I know there are several ways they could do this, but my main focus is that in many TW areas, the most of the channels listed in the analog lineup are duplicated in the triple digits somewhere; as an example Comedy Central is channel 47 for me, but through my STB, it's also listed at 109, but 109 is simply some kind of duplication of the analog feed mapped to 109 (via PSIP i guess), but it's definitely analog, i'd really like if TW would go through these duplicate channels in the triple digits (which are simply the same exact analog feed), and replace them with the digital channels

I sure don't, but can't agree with you more about the redundant channels. They are overkill and unnecessary for me. If past experience holds true, I suspect TWC won't go from analog to digital until the '09 cutoff date unless a competitor threatens to do so. The cost of A->D would fall on the consumer, many of whom are already compaining about prices and the conversion boxes won't be paid by the gov't until '09.

I suspect TWC won't go from analog to digital until the '09 cutoff date unless a competitor threatens to do so.

The way I understand it is that so far as cable systems are concerned, there is NO "cutoff date". This only pertains to OTA broadcasts. There is presently nothing stopping cable companies continuing to offer a full analog range of channels ad infinitum. In practice, the cable companies would love to get rid of the analog service, as they can put three HD channels, about six digital channels or 16 music channels in the space occupied by one analog channel. However, they're unlikely to do so until the number of analog TV sets out there drops substantially.

However, they're unlikely to do so until the number of analog TV sets out there drops substantially.
I don't see why this has to be true. All they have to do is say that any customers with sets that don't support a digital signal must use a cable box. My guess is that the vast majority of people in this situation probably use a STB now anyway (not necessarily people on this forum, of course).

-Dan

I don't see why this has to be true. All they have to do is say that any customers with sets that don't support a digital signal must use a cable box. My guess is that the vast majority of people in this situation probably use a STB now anyway (not necessarily people on this forum, of course).

-Dan
I got in a big argument about this in the CableCards forum, i proposed that TW drop all the analogs and replace them with their digital equivalent (assuming all the analogs were replaced with SD digitals this would create about 60-70 6MHz slots which is enough for 120'ish additional HD channels or 360'ish SD-Digital channels), the huge issue was people with relar ole tv's wouldn't be SOL, i proposed that if the digital channel equivalents added to replace the analog channels be added in clear QAM, and that a barebones clear-QAM box with no EPG be constructed and distributed to people who don't want the fancy (crappy) big power hunger STB in use now at free of charge (this would keep them in competition with DBS's) i'd imagine a barebones clear-QAM box wouldn't need to be larger than a 3-pack dvd box, and if provided for free (other than the issue of having yet another remote) shouldn't be that hard to swallow if provided for free

I don't see why this has to be true. All they have to do is say that any customers with sets that don't support a digital signal must use a cable box. My guess is that the vast majority of people in this situation probably use a STB now anyway (not necessarily people on this forum, of course).

-Dan
I think there are some houses where the "main" tv has a STB, but the other tv's are just hooked up to analog (mine is kinda like this but i'm going to try out an HDMI switch, and see if i can have my bedroom tv and my living room tv run off the same STB)

The whole question of internet speed has been covered extensively over on DSL Reports. The main reason that many people perceive that speed has dropped under TW is that Adelphia's provisioning files had about 20% "overhead" built into the file e.g. anyone on a 4 meg download package was provisioned close to 4.8 meg. TW provision at close to the advertised speed, so there isn't that same "buffer" there. What appears to be going on is that TW are now setting their "standard" package (at least in the greater LA area) at 6/512, and are in the process of rolling it out (I was reprovisioned to it overnight on Thursday last).

Also re the "automatic" conversion of former Adelphia pricing packages, there's been nothing official to suggest this - indeed, TW's site still makes it clear that former Adelphia/Comcast customers can stay with their old packages. Personally, I think there will be a point where TW discontinue this, but they haven't given any indication of this as yet.
It seems to me that RoadRunner has more problems than mere low bandwidth, there appear to be networking issues, as well, at least for me. Some websites that I frequent like a Yahoo portal for example can take up to a minute to resolve. I never ever had that problem with Verizon or Adelphia.

Rudy

West LA here. Same things happening to me.

Great...cable is heading the way of satellite (which isn't even an option for me at the moment). Do we even have any other choices if FiOS isn't available?

Great...cable is heading the way of satellite (which isn't even an option for me at the moment). Do we even have any other choices if FiOS isn't available?

If its the set top box you're having troubles with FIOS uses the same equipment (different flavor) for their video service. Three choices now (cable, DirecTV, Dish Network) with FiOS coming later to Verizon areas, and AT&T doing something different for their TV services.

Great...cable is heading the way of satellite (which isn't even an option for me at the moment). Do we even have any other choices if FiOS isn't available?
Sure, there's OTA, and um.....OTA? of you can roll the dice and hope that you can get a competent technician to come out and measure the signal at your place to see if it's a signal issue, or a crappy extra compression cable company issue

Does anyone happen to know if the Moto 6416 supports native pass-through over the component connection? How about over HDMI?

TW intends to replace my Moxi box with the Moto 6416 and native pass-through is an important feature for me. I prefer to let my TV do the upscaling and deinterlacing. Thanks in advance!

The way I understand it is that so far as cable systems are concerned, there is NO "cutoff date". This only pertains to OTA broadcasts. There is presently nothing stopping cable companies continuing to offer a full analog range of channels ad infinitum. In practice, the cable companies would love to get rid of the analog service, as they can put three HD channels, about six digital channels or 16 music channels in the space occupied by one analog channel. However, they're unlikely to do so until the number of analog TV sets out there drops substantially.

Actually there is something stopping cable companies from down converting the broadcast digital 'casts to analog. The stations themselves. The NAB has asked the FCC ans the congress to prevent cable operators from "degrading" the station's digital signals to analog after the '09 cutoff, mandating that everyone, cable subscribers as well as over-the-air viewers, to either get a digital TV or a set-top box.

http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/12/19/house_adds_new_dtv_transition_date_to_budget_bill/

"Removed from the House version was language that enabled cable TV providers to downconvert high-definition signals for transmission over existing standard definition bandwidth. Newly appointed president and CEO of the National Association of Broadcasters, David Rehr, praised the striking of this provision, stating the NAB is "especially encouraged that the legislation thwarts the cable industry's desire to degrade delivery of HDTV pictures to consumers."

Does anyone happen to know if the Moto 6416 supports native pass-through over the component connection? How about over HDMI?
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No, everything comes out 1080i when tuned to HD stations including ABC and FOX.

Actually there is something stopping cable companies from down converting the broadcast digital 'casts to analog. The stations themselves. The NAB has asked the FCC and the Congress to prevent cable operators from "degrading" the station's digital signals to analog after the '09 cutoff, mandating that everyone, cable subscribers as well as over-the-air viewers, to either get a digital TV or a set-top box.

Now, I had heard some talk about this - has it, in fact, become law? If so, then all the cable companies need to do is blame the politicians and the networks.

I saw this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9763594&&#post9763594) over in the Moxi thread. While a CSR's word is far from gospel, it does not bode well.

Actually there is something stopping cable companies from down converting the broadcast digital 'casts to analog. The stations themselves. The NAB has asked the FCC ans the congress to prevent cable operators from "degrading" the station's digital signals to analog after the '09 cutoff, mandating that everyone, cable subscribers as well as over-the-air viewers, to either get a digital TV or a set-top box.

http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/12/19/house_adds_new_dtv_transition_date_to_budget_bill/

"Removed from the House version was language that enabled cable TV providers to downconvert high-definition signals for transmission over existing standard definition bandwidth. Newly appointed president and CEO of the National Association of Broadcasters, David Rehr, praised the striking of this provision, stating the NAB is "especially encouraged that the legislation thwarts the cable industry's desire to degrade delivery of HDTV pictures to consumers."
Someone in the CableCard forum, stated that this doesn't mean the cableco's can't D2A content, it just means they have to get permission from the individual broadcasters to do it

Seriously. Beautiful HD pic, but no sound. WTF. And InHD's coverage on 422 is blocked. :mad:

Now I get to decide if I want to watch HD and listen to the coverage on the radio, or just watch the game in SD.

I need a beer. :rolleyes:

(Later that same night...)OK. All fixed during halftime. I'm good. :)

So I have been recording two shows at once for the past 5-6 months with no problems. For some reason my box can no longer do that. I am recording both Veronica Mars and House. Veronica shows it being recorded while House is no where to be seen, yer the record icon is on the screen. WTF is going on?

Its the 6416 box...the same one most of us have.

aside from TW f'cking up the addition of KCALHD for cable card users in the west SFV, i'm still glad they did, otherwise i never would have realized how much better South Park looks in DTV!!!

So I have been recording two shows at once for the past 5-6 months with no problems. For some reason my box can no longer do that. I am recording both Veronica Mars and House. Veronica shows it being recorded while House is no where to be seen, yer the record icon is on the screen. WTF is going on?

Its the 6416 box...the same one most of us have.

If House is not scheduled for exactly 60 minutes, but 61 minutes - and you are recording two other shows right after, that has a higher priority than House, House looses.

Several stations are doing this, 61 minutes thing, and it is extremely irritating - so you better get your priorities straight...!

Several stations are doing this, 61 minutes thing, and it is extremely irritating - so you better get your priorities straight...!And ABC is a serious villain in this regard. Shows may start at 1-3 minutes after the hour, and run long or short so that they may or may not "use up" one of the tuners for no more than 1-3 extra minutes... but it's enough to screw up that other recording which was supposed to start but can't because there's no free tuner. And yet you have no indication that this occurred by looking at the Grid/Guide itself on a week-to-week basis once you've established your "series" recording instructions.

You'd be told about the conflict if you tried to set up a new recording (one-shot or series), but not if you're into normal ongoing recording. The box just quietly fails to record the lowest-priority series/one-shot and you, the viewer, are screwed.

As you point out, it is the network's fault (mostly ABC)... trying to influence DVR recording habits (by jimmying with the start/end times) so as to guarantee that you will give their show priority in order to get it recorded and not missed.

My solution on Sunday night (where "Desperate Housewives" and its 1:01 duration screws up HBO's recordings at 9PM and 10PM as I also want to record "L-Word" on SHO) is to record "L-Word" at its 11PM second showing instead of its 10PM first showing.

I saw this over in the Moxi thread. While a CSR's word is far from gospel, it does not bode well.

While the clock is probably ticking, I'll be amazed if they actively try to find and replace deployed boxes. My big concern is what happens if my Moxi craps out.

While the clock is probably ticking, I'll be amazed if they actively try to find and replace deployed boxes. My big concern is what happens if my Moxi craps out.
any idea what the moxis are being replaced with? are they switching everone to SA boxes?

I am in Beverly Hills area which was Adelphia before and they used to give out Moxi boxes. I requested an HDMI box back in OCT and last week TWC came and installed a Motorola 3416 box.

Tech told me Moxi will be standard box installed in this area for component and DVI DVR's and Moto box is special order box if you need HDMI as they normally dont have Moto boxes in stock.

I am sure Tech could be full of it for all I know. I had 2 of these boxes installed 1 of them is giving me problems tho called 800 number to complain and was told they would order a replacement box but would take 4 to 6 weeks to get replacement box as it is special order.

I am in Beverly Hills area which was Adelphia before and they used to give out Moxi boxes. I requested an HDMI box back in OCT and last week TWC came and installed a Motorola 3416 box.

Tech told me Moxi will be standard box installed in this area for component and DVI DVR's and Moto box is special order box if you need HDMI as they normally dont have Moto boxes in stock.

I am sure Tech could be full of it for all I know. I had 2 of these boxes installed 1 of them is giving me problems tho called 800 number to complain and was told they would order a replacement box but would take 4 to 6 weeks to get replacement box as it is special order.

Interesting, I have 3 Moto 6416s all HDMI (2 months ago). I requested nothing special My neighbor just had a 3416 installed last week, no special RQ. 90025 West LA.

TWC is not buying any more Moxy boxes, that's what i heard. They are too expensive, their TV guide application is a pain to maintain etc. Right now, since the digital simulcast is almost finished if you order a DVR HD box you most likely will get a 3416 box.

If House is not scheduled for exactly 60 minutes, but 61 minutes - and you are recording two other shows right after, that has a higher priority than House, House looses.

Several stations are doing this, 61 minutes thing, and it is extremely irritating - so you better get your priorities straight...!

I was just recording Veronica Mars and House. Nothing else during, and nothing else after. Same thing happened with American Idol right before it.

I am getting the "Unauthorized" message on all my HD channels, except 407 (ABC) which I happened to be watching when I noticed the problem. I was on 411 (Fox) earlier and it was fine, but when I went to switch back to watch Bones, I started getting the message. Anyone else having problems? I am resetting the Moxi right now to see if it does anything. Thank goodness I have an OTA antenna to watch it in HD another way!

Edit:
And it's back... Not sure if resetting the Moxi did anything, but at least its working now. And since it's a Moxi, I already have a fully populated guide :D

Thought I'd chime in regarding what I've experienced since the channel realignment. I live in the Mid-Wilshire district and I've noticed a degredation in HD signal quality. While there's no macroblocking, my HD channels flicker between blurry and poor color resolution to sharp and high color resolution. TNTHD and MHD are the worse channels but even DiscoveryHD has issues.

Besides Hermosa/Redondo Beach, anyone else experiencing this?

This has been going on here in Costa Mesa also. I call it more of a "pulsation" where you can see a pulse like effect going on in the HD signal. I had them out yesterday, and they are looking in to it. I had the same thing going on about 3 years ago.

It really irrates me to have these issues of bandwidth etc. If this keeps up, I'll just say to hell with cable, and stick to my HDDVD and Blu-ray.:)

I am getting the "Unauthorized" message on all my HD channels, except 407 (ABC) which I happened to be watching when I noticed the problem. I was on 411 (Fox) earlier and it was fine, but when I went to switch back to watch Bones, I started getting the message. Anyone else having problems? I am resetting the Moxi right now to see if it does anything. Thank goodness I have an OTA antenna to watch it in HD another way!

Edit:
And it's back... Not sure if resetting the Moxi did anything, but at least its working now. And since it's a Moxi, I already have a fully populated guide :D
when you call make sure to mention that they are forbidden by the FCC to encrypt the local HD channels, and that you will file a complaint with the fcc and local franchise board if they dont fix it pronto, as soon as i dropped those words about my kcalhd not working it was fixed overnight

They will be using Motorola for quite some time, if not forever. It is not technically feasible to use SA boxes with Motorola head-ends and vice versa.

Every Thursday I record two shows at the same time. At 9:00 pm I record CSI on ch 402 and Grey's Anatomy on ch 407. I'm usually watching a different channel at 8:59 so the message will pop up asking if I want to record at 9:00 I select yes and then manually switch to 407 so i can watch it live anyway.
When I try to switch I get the "You do not subscribe..." message. I small amount of panic sets in because if I get blocked out of Grey's or it does not record my wife will kill me. But right at 9:00 the channel automatically changes and both programs record without issue. This has happened the last two weeks and before that as well.
Has this happened to anyone before?
Sorry if this has already been posted about before.

Being a big Nascar fan and like watching everything in HD I see now the Nascar Busch series has moved to ESPN2. We don't get ESPN2-HD here. I watched the race this morning on SD and it looked like crap. Has anybody heard if ESPN2-HD is going to be added?

Thanks,

Jim

Being a big Nascar fan and like watching everything in HD I see now the Nascar Busch series has moved to ESPN2. We don't get ESPN2-HD here. I watched the race this morning on SD and it looked like crap. Has anybody heard if ESPN2-HD is going to be added?

Thanks,

Jim
eriv16 said ESPN2-HD by april, so i'm guessing august (2008!!! :rolleyes: )

Does anybody know if the the SATA port on the back of the 6416 is active? I just bought a 46" Sony Grand WEGA(our first HDTV) so I am like a kid in a candy store.

anyone with a cablecard having trouble getting HDNet and HDNet Movies? (other HD's are coming in fine) if they're not back by tomorrow i guess i'll have to sit through hold to get them to reauth my card

Thought I'd chime in regarding what I've experienced since the channel realignment. I live in the Mid-Wilshire district and I've noticed a degredation in HD signal quality. While there's no macroblocking, my HD channels flicker between blurry and poor color resolution to sharp and high color resolution. TNTHD and MHD are the worse channels but even DiscoveryHD has issues.

Besides Hermosa/Redondo Beach, anyone else experiencing this?

I'm having the same issues with TNTHD and MHD. The all-star looks horrible. I capped the All-Star game and the bitrate hovered around 12.4mbps. This is horrible for a 1080i feed. I used to be able to cap TNTHD at rates of 16.5mbps. That's about a 25% decrease in quality right there, and it shows.

What is the latest state of rumors of what HD channels we will get this year (if any)?

I'm having the same issues with TNTHD and MHD. The all-star looks horrible. I capped the All-Star game and the bitrate hovered around 12.4mbps. This is horrible for a 1080i feed. I used to be able to cap TNTHD at rates of 16.5mbps. That's about a 25% decrease in quality right there, and it shows.

I still have them looking into this problem. With better and larger displays you notice these issues more. I'm tired of shelling out hard earned cash, and gettng poor results with HD and cable. I hope they can come up with a solution. Eriv, you listening?:)

I'm having the same issues with TNTHD and MHD. The all-star looks horrible. I capped the All-Star game and the bitrate hovered around 12.4mbps. This is horrible for a 1080i feed. I used to be able to cap TNTHD at rates of 16.5mbps. That's about a 25% decrease in quality right there, and it shows.

They lower the bitrate (compress the feed) knowing an All-Star game will draw a higher audience than most shows and want to conserve bandwidth (?)

We just picked up a KDF-E462000 last night at our local CC( two words: LOVE IT). I have it hooked up to a Motorola 6416 HD-DVR via HDMI, when I tried changing the resolution on my STB to 1080i from 480i the picture became vertical with two black bars across the screen,(side by side with the image in between) is the normal?

so i hooked up the 2x1 manual switch backwards as a 1x2 and it "kinda" works, if i turn my STB off when i switch it outputs properly, but one of the legs i have is a 10 ft HDMI to DVI cable which doesn't work through the switch (the HDCP seems to be happy though because i still get audio out of the STB) i have about 6ft of HDMI from the STB to the switch and then the 10 ft of HDMI-DVI to the display that doesnt work (if i hook the display up directly with the HDMI-DVI cable it works fine) anyone have any idea what limits there are on signal loss over a distance of DV cable? is 6 ft, then a switch, then 10 ft pushing the limits?

On TWC free local HD channel lineup, the majority of the channels only appear in a square. Is this just because this content is free or is it because the majority of the content is in analog(such as commercials)?

With the addition of these new channels PQ is noticeably worse. I have TWC in San Diego, and the PQ is noticeably better. Compression artifacts and low bitrates are unacceptable for HD.

On TWC free local HD channel lineup, the majority of the channels only appear in a square. Is this just because this content is free or is it because the majority of the content is in analog(such as commercials)?
It's because most commercials are in SD, you can see this on the pay HD channels too! checkout commercials on ESPNHD (although they put up the ESPNHD sidebars), or infomercials on the HDNet channels or commercials on TNTHD

I'm turned off by TWC's prices.

One HD DVR for $13.95 breaks down to $8.95 for the equipment rental and $4.95 for DVR service, this on top of $44.95 for the regular price of digital cable brings the total to $58.90 before any additional tiers, premium channels and taxes. Plus a $50 refundable deposit on the DVR.

They offer promotions like $29.95 for digital cable good for six months but $44.95 is their regular price.

So anyone still locked into the old Adelphia regular prices be aware of accepting any promotional rate because standard rate will automatically apply after the promotion ends.

I'm looking to get TWC HD package and was looking for a promotion. Could you detail how I can get this 29.95 promotion? Also what HD QAM stations can I get? (I'd like to hook-up to my KnoppMyth box.) I'm in 90022.

TIA

TWC LA has a mailer going out to all non-subscribers in their service areas with the promotional offer.

if you don't yet have a copy of the promotion you can still contact the cable company and ask for the promotion. The Representative will confirm you reside in their service area.

Contact TWC (888) TW-CABLE

I'm looking to get TWC HD package and was looking for a promotion. Could you detail how I can get this 29.95 promotion? Also what HD QAM stations can I get? (I'd like to hook-up to my KnoppMyth box.) I'm in 90022.

TIA

HD QAM stations are 2,4,7,9,11,KCET-HD (not to be confused with the programming on KCET). In *some* areas, you also get KTLA. For all the others, you need the HD Tier, which is encrypted.

Thanks for the info. I hope I can get KTLA as I have a hard time getting it OTA. Doesn't always want to Lock.

Will see about the promotion too.

This is the first time I am getting cable TV. Do I need to sign up for any extra option to get HD broadcast? Or do you get HD broadcast automatically when you sign up for Digital Cable (assuming you have an HD receiver or HD DVR)?

Timewarner has this 'HD Tier' which includes Sports and Movie Channel. I don't want this tier, but do I have to get this to watch any HD broadcast or is this just a poorly named tier to mislead newbie like me? :confused:

All I care to watch are the local channels, Discovery, Animal Planet, SciFi in HD.

Thank you all for the help!

This is the first time I am getting cable TV. Do I need to sign up for any extra option to get HD broadcast? Or do you get HD broadcast automatically when you sign up for Digital Cable (assuming you have an HD receiver or HD DVR)?

Timewarner has this 'HD Tier' which includes Sports and Movie Channel. I don't want this tier, but do I have to get this to watch any HD broadcast or is this just a poorly named tier to mislead newbie like me? :confused:

All I care to watch are the local channels, Discovery, Animal Planet, SciFi in HD.

Thank you all for the help!

As far as I know, you do not need the HD Tier to get the locals (ABC,NBC,CBS,FOX,PBS,KCAL). If you have an HD box, your will be able to get those. To get anything else (except the premiums, HBO,SHO,MAX,STARZ, which come with the subscription to those channels) you need the HD tier. Note that we do not have Animal Planet or SciFi in HD, but we do have DiscoveryHD.

Thanks for the info, jasonvr

You sure we need HD Tier to get Discovery HD?

Looking at their HD Tier description, it says: ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, INHD, INHD2, Universal HD.

I can't find Discovery HD anywhere.

Thanks for the info, jasonvr

You sure we need HD Tier to get Discovery HD?

Looking at their HD Tier description, it says: ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, INHD, INHD2, Universal HD.

I can't find Discovery HD anywhere.
from a practical sense you need HD Tier to get DiscoveryHD and TNTHD, they are not in the clear-QAM, they were clear-QAM until sometime in the end of summer/beginning of fall '06 at least for me here in canoga park

Thanks for the info, jasonvr

You sure we need HD Tier to get Discovery HD?

Looking at their HD Tier description, it says: ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, INHD, INHD2, Universal HD.

I can't find Discovery HD anywhere.

Unsure since I have the HD Tier. Not really sure how many people out there have an HD box but no HD tier. Anyone out there have that config (not using QAM tuner, but an actual box from TWC) that can shed some light?

I believe as long as you subscribe to a regular non-hdtv version of a channel, they give you an hd version of the same channel for free. For example if you subscribe to HBO, they give you free HBO-HD, if you subscribe to Stars, they give you free Stars-HD; so they should give you free ESPN-HD and Discovery-HD if you are getting these channels ESPN and DISCOVERY. for those HD channels that have no non-HDTV counterparts, such as UHD, HDNET, etc.... you must buy an additional HD tier. I believe I am paying $5 for such a tier. I may be wrong but this is my understanding. Same with regular channels. so

if you can get the channel on your tv you should be able to get a HD version of that channel (if it exists) for free with TWC.

The above holds true only if you have a TWC-HD cable box of course.

I am thinking about adding a premium package to my account(to go along with my new 46" Sony DLP). In your folk's opinion which package has the newest movies(HBO, Starz, Cinemax or Showtime)?

I am thinking about adding a premium package to my account(to go along with my new 46" Sony DLP). In your folk's opinion which package has the newest movies(HBO, Starz, Cinemax or Showtime)?

It would be HBO and STARZ, I had Showtime but cancelled it. HBO and STARZ also let you get HBO-on-demand and/or Starz-on-Demand, for free, which are both good. If I had to choose between HBO and STARZ, I'd choose HBO simply because in March they are starting last season of SOPRANOS and the new season of ENTOURAGE. But I think as a new suscriber, you can call them and they should give you HBO and STARS for $5/month each for 6 months (that's what they gave me)

Channel 431 - Center Ice / NBA Pass HD is up but no audio. Anyone get audio for 2nites game?

Did we get a software update to the Motorola HD-DVR 6416??? I had two different buttons on my harmony remote mapped to go directly to the list of recordings but now they are not working correctly. They go to what looks like should be the list but its blank. If I go manually to menu - dvr - recordings .. it displays the list fine. I've rebooted the box, didn't help.

Did we get a software update to the Motorola HD-DVR 6416??? I had two different buttons on my harmony remote mapped to go directly to the list of recordings but now they are not working correctly. They go to what looks like should be the list but its blank. If I go manually to menu - dvr - recordings .. it displays the list fine. I've rebooted the box, didn't help.

I got exactly the same problem with my Harmony. It shows gibbrish if going straight to dvr, so i gotta go through menu then to dvr to get to dvr. Let me know if you find a solution.

I got exactly the same problem with my Harmony. It shows gibbrish if going straight to dvr, so i gotta go through menu then to dvr to get to dvr. Let me know if you find a solution.
i think there's actually a message about this at 888-TW-CABLE, it's not affecting me but i had to call to complain tonight because the f*cked up my cable bill for like the sixth straight month, and there was some prerecorded message about dvrs (i didn't listen to it though)

i think there's actually a message about this at 888-TW-CABLE, it's not affecting me but i had to call to complain tonight because the f*cked up my cable bill for like the sixth straight month, and there was some prerecorded message about dvrs (i didn't listen to it though)

Message says if you cannot view your DVR recording list enter Menu then DVR then MY RECORDINGS. Techs are aware of the problem and working on it it says.

They must be still "working" on the problem. One time about 9PM I saw my list, but when I went back to it a few minutes later, it was gone again. BTW, did anyone else lose the internet connection for about 10 hours.



Message says if you cannot view your DVR recording list enter Menu then DVR then MY RECORDINGS. Techs are aware of the problem and working on it it says.

DVR problem still there this morning. I hit DVR, and then the ok/select button, and that will pull up the dvr recordings. Between this and watching the Suns/Clippers last night on TNT, with its in and out picture quality........:(

What HD resolution do you guys Drummond, 720p 1080i or ____ (I forgot the others)?

What HD resolution do you guys Drummond, 720p 1080i or ____ (I forgot the others)?

Depends on the channel..
Fox, ESPN, and ABC are 720P
HBO, stars, Cinemax, Shotime, nbc,cbs,ktla, pbs, hd net movies, discovery, universal, hdnet, tnt, hd special events are in 1080i

What resolution is actually displayed also depends on your tv, Mine a Samsung DLP.. it will take 1080I and display it at 720p, and 720p @ 720p.

thanks to everyone for updating re: DVR problem, it's nice to know you are not alone :)

Opinion: Op-Ed by Patt Morrison:

In Los Angeles, 'classic' usually refers to movies, not golf. So why is a golf channel replacing Turner Classic Movies? And what to do about it?
February 22, 2007

WHAT'S YOUR favorite Oscar ritual?

Mine begins about a month before the Academy Awards. I put new batteries in the channel changer. I lay in popcorn and red wine. I check the TV listings. And then I snuggle in for my annual "31 Days of Oscar" countdown on Turner Classic Movies: "A Man for All Seasons," "Ball of Fire," "It Happened One Night," "Meet John Doe."

But not this year. This year, on the channel where TCM should be — has been, for as long as I've had cable — there are 31 days of … golf. A whole channel devoted to a sport that I regard the same way Oscar Wilde regarded fox hunting: The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable. A waste of land, of water and, now, of cable real estate.

TCM has been shoved off the basic-cable lineup in L.A., the movies' hometown, which is like blocking C-SPAN in Washington. On the ex-TCM channel, for 30 seconds or so, old-movie guru Robert Osborne taunted me: I could still see all my old favorites on TCM if I'd just switch over to Time Warner Cable high-definition cable.

For more money.

How did we get to this Hobson's choice of channels? Time Warner and Comcast joined forces last summer to buy out Adelphia, which went bust because John Rigas, its founder, and his son ripped off the company to the tune of $100 million, some $13 million of that squandered on … wait for it … golf.

The two companies divvied up the Adelphia corpse: Comcast got Northern California; Time Warner got nearly 2 million of Southern California's cable customers — 75%, including most of L.A. — all to itself. Sweet. And now it can slice and dice the channel lineup at will.

It irks me something fierce to think that the Adelphia-scam family, sentenced to prison for fraud, may wind up with better cable in the slammer than I get for about $50 a month in L.A. A&E is more E than A ("Dogg the Bounty Hunter"?) and Bravo's "great performances" come down to what reality-show competitors can do with a lemon zester or a bolt of peau de soie. And the "classics" on American Movie Classics run to "Inspector Gadget" and "Mother, Jugs & Speed."

You too? Thinking of complaining to City Hall? Write fast. By April Fool's Day, Sacramento is yanking the job of regulating pay TV away from local government and taking it over itself. In the name of competition, it's letting phone companies in on the cable game but saying adios to local control, to local programming priorities and to holding local politicians to account when the TV providers screw up, or just plain screw us. Now it'll be the state's job to force and enforce — and that doesn't fill me with confidence. Cities haven't shown much backbone dealing with cable, but at least you know what door to hammer on to complain about it.

Worse, the feds may be on track to do the same thing nationwide, meaning you'd have to take your pay-TV gripes to Washington. They're running a country there — or so I hear. What are the chances of getting help with your piddly complaint that Nickelodeon's programming is straying into PG-13 territory?

As for the perpetual pledge that more competition will mean lower rates — honestly, has it ever happened? Anywhere? In the last two years, cable fees nationwide leapfrogged at twice the rate of inflation. They've nearly doubled in a dozen years. The only thing competitive about cable rates is how they're straining to keep pace with medical costs. A first-class trip to Europe has to cost less than a week of watching cable from a hospital bed.

I'm pretty much beyond expecting help. I'm moving on to the "How can I make trouble?" stage, and I think I've come up with a way that every one of us who clicks on a television can become a bit of human grit in the corporate gears.

As early as next week, Time Warner Cable's stock will start trading publicly, available to anyone who can afford it. I don't know what shares will cost, but Comcast shares are going for about $40 each. So, probably for less than the cost of a month of Time Warner Cable, you can become a Time Warner stockholder.

You'd get the stockholder reports. You'd get invited to annual meetings. You'd get a vote. We all would, if we bought in. Result: E pluribus noodge. Demand public access and local programming. Insist on bricks-and-mortar service. Because the only thing a lot of politicians are asking of these companies is campaign contributions.

Now that I think of it, this is starting to sound like one of my favorite movies. It's about greedy, arrogant, high-handed, double-dealing corporate executives, and the little stockholders who stand up to them. An Oscar-winning film called "The Solid Gold Cadillac." I'd sure love to see it again. It might even be on TCM's "31 Days of Oscar."

Wherever TCM is. Lost out there on the fairways, held hostage by the HSBC New Zealand PGA Championship.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-morrison22feb22,0,4970731.column?coll=la-util-opinion-commentary

How long did it take you guys to get your TW HD Converter ?
They told me "a couple of week", but that was six weeks ago and they're still saying the same thing (mutter mutter).
I'm getting annoyed and might opt for a Cable Card so at least I can start viewing.

(Thankfully I have Blu-ray)

I'm in Reseda btw (here in the San Fernando Valley)

I am also on the waiting list here in West Hills area.
It's been 3 weeks for me already. I am taking back my old digital box since it doesnt' work with my new HDTV. I am gonna ask them to give me credit for the missing time, or at least gimme some free HBO or somthing when the do get new boxes :D

How long did it take you guys to get your TW HD Converter ?
They told me "a couple of week", but that was six weeks ago and they're still saying the same thing (mutter mutter).
I'm getting annoyed and might opt for a Cable Card so at least I can start viewing.

(Thankfully I have Blu-ray)

I'm in Reseda btw (here in the San Fernando Valley)
mine was instant, but i got it like six months ago, it's the HD-DVR (SA 8300HDDVR), my wife went up to their chatsworth store type place and picked it up

just out of curiosity does TW wave the $13 DVR fee if you subscribe to the Digital Extreme Pack?

just out of curiosity does TW wave the $13 DVR fee if you subscribe to the Digital Extreme Pack?
um, they are greedy bastards so i would tend to say....no

I get TWC's basic analog cable package and, since yesterday afternoon, the channels have gone completely wonky and either won't come in or look like I'm trying to watch an encrypted channel.

My HDTV's analog tuner and EyeTV 200 were getting great (and steady) reception until yesterday. The TWC CSRs have nothing to offer...

Any ideas?

What's the deal with Channel 431. Usually there's nothing on, but when the guide says there's something on, I get a white screen that just says "On Demand." It seems like the sporting events that are on there are not the sort of things you'd have to pay per view. Am I wrong? Is there a way to view these events without paying? or by paying, and if so, what do you select to have the privilege of paying?

Unsure since I have the HD Tier. Not really sure how many people out there have an HD box but no HD tier. Anyone out there have that config (not using QAM tuner, but an actual box from TWC) that can shed some light?


I have the HD box without the HD Tier. Discovery HD comes with the digital cable package. I just have the Variety tier and I can view that channel just fine.

How long did it take you guys to get your TW HD Converter ?


Do you mean the HD cable box? I walked into the TW office on Topanga Canyon with my old non-HD box and they swapped it in two minutes.

I get TWC's basic analog cable package and, since yesterday afternoon, the channels have gone completely wonky and either won't come in or look like I'm trying to watch an encrypted channel.

My HDTV's analog tuner and EyeTV 200 were getting great (and steady) reception until yesterday. The TWC CSRs have nothing to offer...

Any ideas?
where are you located?
i'm in canoga park and my analogs come in fine

West Los Angeles, but I'm in unincorporated LA County, putting me on the TWC Hollywood/Wilshire map.

Was hoping that they're still realigning channels, etc.

which HD STB has firewire enabled? I would like to know what box to request when I order.

TIA

which HD STB has firewire enabled? I would like to know what box to request when I order.

TIA

I know my Moxi box has firewire enabled, but there have been reports that they are scare. You should be able to ask the CSR as they are required by law to provide you an STB with active firewire if you request it. Also, your answer will vary depending on whether you want an HD DVR or just an HD STB.

HD DVR box here in Covina. Had to reboot the box yesterday 'cause it was being non-responsive. Now the menu guide won't freakin' re-populate!!! Anybody else experiencing this?

Warner Cable reprimanded by city officials
By Sylvie Belmond belmond@theacorn.com

Moorpark city officials challenged Time Warner Inc. to provide better service, during a regular city council meeting Wednesday. Since the cable service provider acquired the Moorpark franchise from Adelphia and Comcast last year, the city has been receiving more customer questions, concerns and complaints.

Time Warner is the sole provider of cable TV in town. The company also offers high speed internet access. Since it acquired the Moorpark network, the cable provider appears to be overwhelmed by the demand for customer service so the City Council created an ad hoc committee to review the matter. "People are having trouble contacting the company to get their problem solved," said Hugh Riley, assistant city manager. Officials don't have authority over programming or cable rates, but they can mandate better service to some extent, said John Brand, senior management analyst for the city of Moorpark. "The city wants to see improved performance," Brand said. Thus, council members asked Time Warner to monitor response time for calls that originate from Moorpark and provide performance reports to the city. According to federal cable act 1992, cable providers are supposed to pick up the phone within 30 seconds a certain percentage of the time. If improvements aren't made soon, the city could penalize the cable company with a $25,000 dollar fine officials said.

Time Warner is working to improve response time, said Coby King consultant for Time Warner. The cable provider can monitor regional data, but it may not be able to specifically track calls that originate from Moorpark, King said. Time Warner hired about 400 people since last year and it plans to hire another 250 customer service representatives to help meet the increased demand. "This is and continues to be the most complicated merger in the cable television industry," said King. Officials were sympathetic but determined to get results. "Our residents are not very happy and that's why you're here tonight," said Councilmember Janice Parvin. Parvin said that the software to track local calls is available because her company, Network Omni which is based in Westlake Village, uses it. "The question is will you put out that kind of expense or does the city need to put pressure on the company to do so," she said. "The service has been completely unacceptable," said Mayor Pro Tem Keith Millhouse, indicating the federal and state governments should create customer bill of rights to protect consumers who have increasingly fewer choices.

http://www.moorparkacorn.com/news/2007/0223/front_page/003.html

Channel 431, is for NBA League Pass and NHL Center Ice. You need to be subscribed to one of those packages to get it.

I know my Moxi box has firewire enabled, but there have been reports that they are scare. You should be able to ask the CSR as they are required by law to provide you an STB with active firewire if you request it. Also, your answer will vary depending on whether you want an HD DVR or just an HD STB.

Thanks for the input. I only want the STB. Will ask about the firewire when I call, just trying to get my ducks orderly. Thanks again.

It looks like TWC has pulled UHD off for us out here in Sunland/Tujunga area.
Anyone still getting it?

It looks like TWC has pulled UHD off for us out here in Sunland/Tujunga area.
Anyone still getting it?

UHD 419 is on in West Hollywood. FSNHD 413 in on right now (4:30pm) also.

Does your system (sunland/tujunga) have bandwith problems? Maybe they pulled UHD to broadcast the college basketball on FSNHD. Just a thought.

is MHD off for anyone else? it's 414 for me here in canoga park, it's out for my cable card AND my STB, the idiot at TW wanted to send a technician, i told her to go pound sand, they wanted to send a tech last week when hdnet and hdnet movies was out, and then at just before they scheduled the appointment i told them to go check the channel again and they came back with "yes those channels are out, we should have them back in 3-5 hours"

UHD has recently disappeared from my "Digital Platinum" (Comcast legacy) lineup, having not made any changes to my service to convert over to TWC tiered pricing. No HD Tier here.

And I still have Platinum's "all of the Premium Movie channels in HD" as part of this "do nothing" result.

And I still have all the other old ones I've had all along... INHD, ESPNHD, TNTHD, DiscHD (even though the first two are part of "HD Tier").

And I still have all the other new ones that [surprisingly] got automatically added for me during the channel lineup conversion... MHD, HDN, HDNM, FSNHD (the first three of which are part of the "HD Tier").

Only UHD (also in HD Tier), initially part of this "everything gets grandfathered in" group has now been disappeared. Not that I care right now, but it might mean eventually more will disaappear.

The PQ on certain channels (MHD) is just awful. How can they call this HD? We should all call in to complain, this level of compression is simply UNACCEPTABLE.

which HD STB has firewire enabled? I would like to know what box to request when I order.
My Motorola 6200 HD STB does. But that could very well be what my home office (Eagle Rock) has implimented, rather than what the box is technically capable of doing.

The PQ on certain channels (MHD) is just awful. How can they call this HD? We should all call in to complain, this level of compression is simply UNACCEPTABLE.
"call in to complain" HAH! that's a good one, i've pretty much given up on TW, i'll continue to slowly try to ween myself from them, but it's pretty handy to just not expect anything but a swift kick to the balls from them

We need to get organized, so someone will listen to our complaints. The HD quality really does need some help. I am still in the process of finding out what can be done, if anything.

Is it me or is Time Warner cable's premium pricing higher than Adephia? I think $15.00 for HBO is ridiculous.

Anyone else subscribe to Center Ice or NBA Pass? I'm getting picture on 431 but no audio for about a week now. I call and get no help form customer support.

I have TW and HD cable box not DVR its Motorola and the 402 to 424 channels what ever the number is does not look any better then not so great DVD's I tend to watch HD channels on the indoor OTA antenna, the HD PQ from OTA is 100% better then a good number of HD channel on TW HD tear. I dont know what TW is thinking, I paid almost $3000.00 for a Mitsubishi 1080p HDTV it looks wonderful OTA, and looks great on DVD and my Bluray player, but HD cable box is very poor on the none HD channel and HD PQ as I said is not lot better then none HD channels.

PS Im using R G B and stereo cables from cable box to TV so its not the connection, its HD PQ it self

cable box is setup to send 1080i HD and 480i none HD channels.

I have TW and HD cable box not DVR its Motorola and the 402 to 424 channels what ever the number is does not look any better then not so great DVD's I tend to watch HD channels on the indoor OTA antenna, the HD PQ from OTA is 100% better then a good number of HD channel on TW HD tear. I dont know what TW is thinking, I paid almost $3000.00 for a Mitsubishi 1080p HDTV it looks wonderful OTA, and looks great on DVD and my Bluray player, but HD cable box is very poor on the none HD channel and HD PQ as I said is not lot better then none HD channels.

PS Im using R G B and stereo cables from cable box to TV so its not the connection, its HD PQ it self

cable box is setup to send 1080i HD and 480i none HD channels.

While I agree over the air HD PQ looks better than TW HD version of the same channel it no where near as compressed as Sat and OTH is not 100% better PQ either. TW HD is still better than Dish networks and Direct TV HD lite. And it blows away normal DVD even if you got up converting DVD player.

Now Blue Ray movie should look better than cable/OTA/Sat because it a 1080P signel vs 1080i or 720p depending on the channel.

So I would venture to guess your RGB to DVI/HDMI converters is causing the problem considering non of Motorola boxes support RGB dirrectly.

I dont have RGB to DVI/HDMI converter, the RGB RCA jacks on cable box goes to RGB input on TV. I have no idea how got the idea that there is any kind of converter box between the cable box and TV. The cable box does have DVI port and TV does too. But the TV manual says the DVI port is for pc and says you should connect DVI on cable boxes to HDMI using HDMI to DVI cable, but as im using 1 HDMI port for my Bluray and other for my DVD player I dont have HDMI port or at this time cable with DVI on one end and HDMI on there to try it with. I do have pc DVI monitor cable i might try but again the manual for TV save the DVI on TV is for pc

I dont have RGB to DVI/HDMI converter, the RGB RCA jacks on cable box goes to RGB input on TV. I have no idea how got the idea that there is any kind of converter box between the cable box and TV. The cable box does have DVI port and TV does too. But the TV manual says the DVI port is for pc and says you should connect DVI on cable boxes to HDMI using HDMI to DVI cable, but as im using 1 HDMI port for my Bluray and other for my DVD player I dont have HDMI port or at this time cable with DVI on one end and HDMI on there to try it with. I do have pc DVI monitor cable i might try but again the manual for TV save the DVI on TV is for pc

I think the OP means the component jacks on the box. They may or may not have the ability to change between Y/Pb/Pr and R/G/B, not sure.

I dont have RGB to DVI/HDMI converter, the RGB RCA jacks on cable box goes to RGB input on TV. I have no idea how got the idea that there is any kind of converter box between the cable box and TV. The cable box does have DVI port and TV does too. But the TV manual says the DVI port is for pc and says you should connect DVI on cable boxes to HDMI using HDMI to DVI cable, but as im using 1 HDMI port for my Bluray and other for my DVD player I dont have HDMI port or at this time cable with DVI on one end and HDMI on there to try it with. I do have pc DVI monitor cable i might try but again the manual for TV save the DVI on TV is for pc

Motorola boxes only support Y/Pb/Pr. They do not support RGB output at all. So you are having you cable box convert a digital picture back to analogy. So you are basically counting on a cheap cable box to do the converision for you which more than likely is worst idea possible as most of the parts in all cable boxes tend to be substandard because all the cable companies care is price and Motorola knows this which is they build as cheap as possible.

Try connecting you cable box via HDMI to DVI adaptor to see if your picture quality improves and look much better then the problem is sending out the picutre via component connection ie Y/Pb/Pr.

Yeah, I use a DVI/HDMI cable from my Pioneer STB and the HD channels look fantastic.

Ok I see your point and I have changed the dvd player to the component jacks and i got dvi to hdmi cable and plugged it into the HDTV on HDMI 2 so far the HD signals look better the 480i channels look about the same as when i had the component out from cable box to the the TV.

I have Motorola box set to do 1080i and 480i for none HD channels , i see box can also set the 480p but most people say not do this as tv does better with 480i up converting, then cable box.

Ok I see your point and I have changed the dvd player to the component jacks and i got dvi to hdmi cable and plugged it into the HDTV on HDMI 2 so far the HD signals look better the 480i channels look about the same as when i had the component out from cable box to the the TV.

I have Motorola box set to do 1080i and 480i for none HD channels , i see box can also set the 480p but most people say not do this as tv does better with 480i up converting, then cable box.

Do you have the 6416 pr MOXI box? I have a 6416 hooked up to my (a week old) Sony Grand WEGA. I have heard that you can have the box auto convert from 1080i back to 480i, and if so how would I do that? thanks

Do you have the 6416 pr MOXI box? I have a 6416 hooked up to my (a week old) Sony Grand WEGA. I have heard that you can have the box auto convert from 1080i back to 480i, and if so how would I do that? thanks
I have the SA 8300HDDVR (obviously a different scenario), but i just make it output everything in 1080i; otherwise everytime it changes resolution for the feedthrough, my tv has to change resolutions causing a blackscreen for a second (which is kinda annoying IMHO)

I took advantage of a premium promotion TWC, adding Showtime or HBO free for 1 month. I added Showtime last week, thaen I came to the realization that HBO has better programing( Ido you think I'm just saying that because George Lopez has a specail running till the middle of next month). Can take off Showtime and put HBO in its place?

Ok I see your point and I have changed the dvd player to the component jacks and i got dvi to hdmi cable and plugged it into the HDTV on HDMI 2 so far the HD signals look better the 480i channels look about the same as when i had the component out from cable box to the the TV.

I have Motorola box set to do 1080i and 480i for none HD channels , i see box can also set the 480p but most people say not do this as tv does better with 480i up converting, then cable box.


Well non HD channels are going to look worse than HD channel that is normal. Most non HD should look worse than DVD but should be fair in quality. I have read in HD PVR forums some people recommend setting the box to 480i and using componet connection and then using HDMI/DVI connection for HD channels because if you send a 480i connection via DVI/HDMI the box will automactically strech the image for 16.9. So they watch HD promgraming via DVI/HDMI which are in 16:9 and 480i stuff via component your TV via and if you choose the pass through setting in the box this will allow your TV to strech and upconvert the picutre to 480P but still wont look as good as a DVD.

Personally I dont bother doing this as I think the difference between letting my TV strech the image vs box is minimal on 480i programing. So I just send everything to my TV via HDMI.

I had three Moxi boxes.
I complained to TWC that the Moxi was not working when I connect the HDMI output through my HDMI switching receiver.
They sent a tech and he could not get it working.
Today they sent another tech with new 3416 boxes.
Now HDMI output throught the HDMI switching receiver is working fine (or as fine as I've managed to test it in a few minutes).
I kinda miss the Moxi menu, and I really miss the channel names, but the new menu is more responsive.

I'd like to know if I can plug an external USB or FireWire hard drive into the 3416 to get more storage space, and I am in the Redondo Beach / 90278 area?


Regards
Pieter

To the person that wanted to know how to get Motorola box to change what it outputs you turn it off with box's power button not remote then you press menu on box you should see menu popup with video settings , once done just press power twice and you're done.

having some problems with my HD on certain channels (looked through past few pages didnt see anyone else mention it).

i'm in huntington beach, twc, sa8300. for at least 2 weeks now, channels 407 (abc hd) and 411 (fox hd) have had either really bad pixelation and sputtering, or the channels are not there at all. other hd channels like 404 and 402 (nbc and cbs hd) are just fine. i thought at first the problem was at the cable provider, but now i'm thinking it might have to do with the sa8300 unit? everything was working fine previously. anyone else experienced this before?

I have the exact same problem. I just got Time Warner HD with the DVR on Saturday. And have this problem. Tried rebooting and the problem still occurred. I think I have the same box also. I know its SA and its the 8300? Read more of the other posts, and someone cleared it up with an accentuator. did this work for anyone else? Also thought of maybe adding an rf amplifier? I'm going to try exchanging boxes first with TWC first. Just seeing what worked for other people

TNT HD quality sucks the worst. I am in Van Nuys 91402 with an 80G MOXI (former Adelphia), and I recorded Drumline. 1/3 of the middle of the movie was totally unwatchable. Picture so pixellated you couldn't see it, and sound choppy. Then it just cleared up.

I have no idea how to find out the software on this box. I tried all the button presses suggested in the forums, but nothing worked. I guess it's passport. I want to upgrade to a 160G box, but I don't know what TW has available in my area (without being on a long waiting list), and what boxes are the best. I hear so many complaints about Motorola, MOXI and SA HD-DVR boxes.

80G is pathetic. I have just a few HD shows recorded, and a few scheduled, and it just fails to record shows with no warning. I look at the 'Cancelled and Deleted' screen, and it just says 'errors.' I have missed Prison Break, 24 and Lost at least once each in the past few months. I don't know what to do. I don't want to replace my MOXI with a box with more issues.

I am not using HDMI for sound, and I don't want to lose 5.1 sound if I try connecting HDMI to my TV. My TV is DVI. I hear some of the HDMI boxes have issues with losing the 5.1 sound when the TV or receiver doesn't support the HDMI protocol (or using an HDMI to DVI cable). I just want to trade up, not down!

Well non HD channels are going to look worse than HD channel that is normal. Most non HD should look worse than DVD but should be fair in quality. I have read in HD PVR forums some people recommend setting the box to 480i and using componet connection and then using HDMI/DVI connection for HD channels because if you send a 480i connection via DVI/HDMI the box will automactically strech the image for 16.9. So they watch HD promgraming via DVI/HDMI which are in 16:9 and 480i stuff via component your TV via and if you choose the pass through setting in the box this will allow your TV to strech and upconvert the picutre to 480P but still wont look as good as a DVD.

Personally I dont bother doing this as I think the difference between letting my TV strech the image vs box is minimal on 480i programing. So I just send everything to my TV via HDMI.
I think some of this would depend on if the 480i is analog or digital, of course all the analogs are gonna look like crap anyways on a big tv, but the digital channels that are 480i are pretty close to dvd quality, so it would make sense to try to use dvi/hdmi for the digital channels a good example is the Speed channel which is SD digital for me in canoga park, and looks much better than the SD analog channels

is content from premium channels (HBO, Showtime, etc...) actually flagged as "copy never" or just "copy once" someone in another forum said it was "copy never" but i'm pretty sure that should mean you can't record it at all with a STB/DVR (like say the SA 8300HDDVR)

I get TWC's basic analog cable package and, since yesterday afternoon, the channels have gone completely wonky and either won't come in or look like I'm trying to watch an encrypted channel.

My HDTV's analog tuner and EyeTV 200 were getting great (and steady) reception until yesterday. The TWC CSRs have nothing to offer...

Any ideas?

TWC just cleared it up by telling me they no longer offer ANY cable service without a box.

So I'm guessing that's the problem!

:D

TWC just cleared it up by telling me they no longer offer ANY cable service without a box.

So I'm guessing that's the problem!

:D
where in LA are you located? that's a total load of BS, my analogs still work fine here in canoga park wo/a box

West LA...it certainly seemed like BS to me, too. But both the CSR and manager I spoke to acted like I was asking for something they'd barely heard of, let alone could offer me.

Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

West LA...it certainly seemed like BS to me, too. But both the CSR and manager I spoke to acted like I was asking for something they'd barely heard of, let alone could offer me.

Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.
are the analog broadcast channels coming through correctly? if the big networks (ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, etc...) arent coming through analog at all thats almost tantamount to encrypting them which is an FCC violation, make sure to mention you will/are bringing this to the attention of the FCC and the local franchise authority

The networks come through clearly, but the rest of the channels are smeary and encrypted (unlike last week). Sound but no picture.

West LA...it certainly seemed like BS to me, too. But both the CSR and manager I spoke to acted like I was asking for something they'd barely heard of, let alone could offer me.

Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

I'm in West LA and analog still works on my kitchen TV.

Did we get a software update to the Motorola HD-DVR 6416??? I had two different buttons on my harmony remote mapped to go directly to the list of recordings but now they are not working correctly. They go to what looks like should be the list but its blank. If I go manually to menu - dvr - recordings .. it displays the list fine. I've rebooted the box, didn't help.

Any updates on this issue? My "List" button still fails.

I'm in West LA and analog still works on my kitchen TV.

Color me jealous...I just had another CSR tell me I needed to get an analog box to get anything above channel 35. Again, this wasn't the case at my place last week, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can do.

My HD OTA set-up is of primary importance, so I'm just about done trying to fix the analog end of things. ;)

Color me jealous...I just had another CSR tell me I needed to get an analog box to get anything above channel 35. Again, this wasn't the case at my place last week, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can do.

My HD OTA set-up is of primary importance, so I'm just about done trying to fix the analog end of things. ;)

I just went and tested. I have all the usual suspent to 99 minus what TWC bumped to digital, like HSN 81 etc.

Re-ran channel search and came back with the same results. Must be something in my neighborhood.

is content from premium channels (HBO, Showtime, etc...) actually flagged as "copy never" or just "copy once" someone in another forum said it was "copy never" but i'm pretty sure that should mean you can't record it at all with a STB/DVR (like say the SA 8300HDDVR)

HBO wants its programming to be off-limits for DVRs (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060209-6151.html)

JVC receivers and the TiVo Series3 don't seem to be a perfect match (http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6650194.html)

HBO wants its programming to be off-limits for DVRs (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060209-6151.html)

JVC receivers and the TiVo Series3 don't seem to be a perfect match (http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6650194.html)
so, it sounds like right now HBO is copy once, but they'd like to make it copy never so that they can force you to buy stuff on-demand if you miss it, just wanted to make sure i should be able to record HBO using my firewire HD via my tv

My DVR button option should work if you reset your box (unplug it from the power outlet). There was a problem with TV guide load last Tuesday and they disabled some box features, this problem was nation-wide. One of them was my dvr option. It was fix (according to TV guide) in last Thursday's load.

My DVR button option should work if you reset your box (unplug it from the power outlet). There was a problem with TV guide load last Tuesday and they disabled some box features, this problem was nation-wide. One of them was my dvr option. It was fix (according to TV guide) in last Thursday's load.

I had the same problem (Hollywood, CA.). Unplugging didn't fix it. It finally fixed itself about two or three days ago, but definitely not by last Thursday.

I have another problem, possibly only with HD channels (I rarely watch analogue). The picture studders as though the video is being displayed at 20 frames per second rather than 30. I really notice it during action or panning. This happens on recordings as well as live. It happens about 50% of the time.

This has been going on for about two - three weeks. I'm on my 3rd box in a year (64XX).

Channel 421 HDNMV .. what is up with this channel .. I noticed The Longest Yard and Gladiator in the Guide so I set them both to record and they are both some older movies with the same titles.. and not as described in the program info in the guide, as The Longest Yard with Adam Sandler and Gladiator with Russell Crowe.

I still can't access some channels like DiscoveryHD. It just says "This channel will be available shortly". Any idea? Tried power-rebooting my box.

Channel 421 HDNMV .. what is up with this channel .. I noticed The Longest Yard and Gladiator in the Guide so I set them both to record and they are both some older movies with the same titles.. and not as described in the program info in the guide, as The Longest Yard with Adam Sandler and Gladiator with Russell Crowe.
my guide had the corrrect description for gladiator (i check the info just to see if it was ridley scotts Gladiator or not), i have seen the incorrect info in the past though, one frequent mistake was throughout last summer ocean's eleven (the original with sinatra and the rat pack) was on hdnetmovies, but it showed the description for the clooney remake, i think it's safe to assume that if there are two movies with the same title, the older, crappier one will be the one shown on the non-premium HD channels

Any updates on this issue? My "List" button still fails.

Well, I just unpluged my 6416 and plugged it back in and pressed LIST and it worked. So, I guess they have the problem solved.

alright, i'm gonna try powering off and on.. hoping my List button comes back.. if not i have to suffer through two days of a useless guide ;)

EDIT: it works once again, thanks for the update!

all the digital channels dissappeared from my cable card, and guess what, when they came back KCALHD was missing again; now the channel doesnt even show up, instead of showing me the "You must have a digital receiver to get this channel" screen i complained about weeks ago, i will be calling and pestering all the people that seemed concerned earlier when i told TW i would be taking this matter to the franchise board and the FCC, since it amounts to encrypting KCALHD, what's hilarious, is it's still in the clear on the same channel, but through the cablecard theres no channel 409 anymore, i think i may demand some free service considering all the other crap TW has put me through in the last month
1) told me that when i moved less than a mile from my old apartment i could keep my old TW-digital phone #, after the move they said they would have to change the number, but would give me a month of free phone, which last time i called they had no record of
2) incorrectly billed me for a full season of ESPN Gameplan ($109) on my last bill which is set to auto pay, so they can't/won't fix the problem, but i'll have a $109 dollar credit on my next bill, but my credit card gets pinged for an extra $109 in the meantime
3) send me a tech who knows absolutely nothing about cable cards, after i explicitly state that i cant get KCALHD (409) via a cablecard
4) installers tore up the carpet around my sliding glass door at both my old and new place, and now my old landlord is withholding part of my security dep cuz of the frayed carpet (he's a d*ck though and that's a whole nother story)
5) modified the dvr software so that i can't ffwd, pause, rewind, etc... any of the college football games purchased through ESPN Gameplan unless i'm actually recording the game (which makes no flippin' sense, and is probably whoever writes the passport/echo softwares fault, but i chose to shoot the messenger)
6) Continue to tell me that i'll get EPSN2HD "eventually" but then never deliver
7) the trillion times that i've reset my 8300, when it turned out that the problem was on TW's end: HDNet/HDNet movies out, HD baseball games via MLB Extra Innings, the chitty chitty non responsive 8300 that can't manage the HDCP handshake, the handful of times i wanted to watch someing from espn gameplan or mlb ei and it said i was not authorized
8) all the f*cking times that a TW csr admitted something was TW's fault and said i would get a credit on my next bill, and of course the credit never materializes and i have to wait on hold to argue with yet another csr, to get back the money to which i'm entitled
9) tw not carrying FSN-HD content, when the content is readily available and viewable via D*, and lying to me and saying that FSN-HD isnt showing whatever the particular game is in HD
10) TW losing MLB EI to D*
11) when the cablecard-clueless tech was here on the phone with someone at TW-Chatsworth and actually stated that TW has intentionally made it so that cablecard customers can't receive KCALHD
12) offering to send a technician to on a saturday "between 9 and 7" yes you heard right, between 9 and 7, meaning, who the hell knows when basically meaning i have to stay home, or at least close by with my cell

Note: this list evolved into more of an "over the last year" kinda thing

i think it's getting closer to the time to go buy a compass and see how obstructed my view of the Southern Sky is from my apartment's balcony

I lost HBO HD last night! I have all the other basic HD, including Discovery & TNT, and all the other HBO channels, but nothing on 427 or 502!

WTF is going on with TWC???

I did reset my MOXI, but it made no difference. It says I need to subscribe!

I had the same problem (Hollywood, CA.). Unplugging didn't fix it. It finally fixed itself about two or three days ago, but definitely not by last Thursday.

I have another problem, possibly only with HD channels (I rarely watch analogue). The picture studders as though the video is being displayed at 20 frames per second rather than 30. I really notice it during action or panning. This happens on recordings as well as live. It happens about 50% of the time.

This has been going on for about two - three weeks. I'm on my 3rd box in a year (64XX). I doubt your picture problem is your box. I have been having the same issues, and it is clearly a problem with TW. I've been raising hell, with no results yet.

I doubt your picture problem is your box. I have been having the same issues, and it is clearly a problem with TW. I've been raising hell, with no results yet.
i just called TW about my problem with KCAL-HD and they have a long message about solar flares interupting their PQ, HSI, etc...guessing if this is true it could be the answer to some peoples currenty problems

I did reset my MOXI, but it made no difference. It says I need to subscribe!

unfortunately, I was told that they were going to disable/limit features on the MOXI'S.(I guess in order to get subscribers to request a 6416).

Is the HD tier really worth adding?

Call them and tell them you'd like to try it. I've got it free for six months. $5 per month after that, not sure if I'm going to keep it yet.

Is the HD tier really worth adding?
I think it all depends on what your looking for, if you absolutely can't live without ESPNHD or FSNHD, then i'd say yes (I must have both during baseball and college football season), if your tv has a digital qam tuner, you don't need the HD tier to get the broadcast channels (ABC,NBC,CBS,FOX,KCAL,KCET) they may try to tell you otherwise, at which point make sure to tell them your taking your complaint to the FCC, it is kind of nice to have the networks in HD through cable (but some people feel that TW adds extra compression to the broadcasts and that OTA looks much better), if you don't want to have to d*ck around with an antenna (except i dont get CW-HD, but some former adelphia areas do), i believe most of TW's digital cable packages automatically include "One Tier" since all the tiers are $5 extra i'd assume you can make your included tier the HD tier, if you dont really need any of the other tiers, you should also check exactly what you'll get if you add the HD-tier, since different TW areas have different HD lineups (I still don't have ESPN2HD :mad: but my friend in marina del rey has had it throughout the change-over)

i believe most of TW's digital cable packages automatically include "One Tier" since all the tiers are $5 extra i'd assume you can make your included tier the HD tier, if you dont really need any of the other tiers,

Yeah, for the $45 digital cable price (in my area), you get your broadcast basic, standard cable, select digital basic channels, the HD broadcast channels, and one tier free. I "think" the default is the Variety tier, but I'm not sure.

I have the Variety tier and I get all the HD locals (CBS, NBC, ABC, CW, PBS and KCAL), MHD, Discovery HD, and TNT HD, but I think those are included in the digital package. I really should look to add the HD tier, too.

Is it just me, but I find the addition of HD channels 409 and 413 to be completely useless. I think I have only see 3 entries on 413 and checking 409 for the next week
I don't see any Laker games being televised.

:(

Is it just me, but I find the addition of HD channels 409 and 413 to be completely useless. I think I have only see 3 entries on 413 and checking 409 for the next week
I don't see any Laker games being televised.

:(
yes, but South Park in SD Digital is toturly aresome!!!
(i'm actually somewhat serious because it looks better than Comedy Central analog) and the trick to 413 is....they don't always list FSN HD programming in the guide, so you really need to check hdsportsguide.com and fsnba.com's college HD listings

the guide i see via my cablecard lists channel 405 as KTLAHD, but it's just showing a duplicate of 409 KCALHD, maybe this means that eventually we'll get KTLAHD (i know some of you already get it but not everyone does) i'm tempted to pop out the CC and do some clear-qam hunting

Do you guys not get the digital simulcast versions of almost all the cable channels (except the locals 12-36 or so) on the channels above 100? When TWC threw the switch on the channel lineup in November, they began sending us digital versions of ALL cable channels above 36, besides AMC and Sci-Fi which are for some reason only broadcast in analog. You should be able to receive these digital versions if TWC broadcasts an all digital lineup in your area and you use any STB. Our Moxi's picked up both analog and digital versions of these channels and i compared side by side and the digital simulcasts look better using native pass through (480i) to our 2 HDTV's. I programmed the channel guide not to show the analog stations for which there is a digital counterpart so that my family will always watch the channels with the better PQ, except on our 3 analog TV's.

Overall we are pretty fed up with TWC's new service and our price is at an all time high, but we still lack certain digital tier channels we desire and only have Cinnemax as a free promotion for another 2 months or so. TWC's internet service has definately suffered, i doubt we'll ever see the 4.1 update for the Moxi's, which do lag, and the Moxi mate has never been offered for our BMC 9022D. There are rumors the Moxi will be replaced with DCT 6416 (or perhaps 3416 because of the digital simulcast here) units, which seem to give users even more headaches than the Moxi.

We are seriously considering switching to either D* or E* as their packages seem to offer more channels for roughly the same price, with arguably better equipment, especially the HD DVR's. We will probably switch to Verizon Fios internet, and we may consider Fios TV as well. This way, we will have 100% digital TV throughout the house with greater DVR and EPG functionality with the full channel lineup on each TV set.


Still weighing my options............

I have TWC in Fountain Valley; using QAM tuner in my hdtv. My tv is not able to find all the QAM channels.

I am not able to find the KTLA HD, Discovery HD, or TNT HD. Also cannot find SD digital channels for Spike and Comedy Central . I also have one of the Showtime Tiers. Anyone know if these are encrypted? Please post the QAM channels for these if you have them.

Did anyone ever post an extensive list of QAM channels on this thread? I only see them sporadically mentioned, clicking through random pages of this thread. Thanks in advance.

is this solar flare stuff for real? We've been having pixelated picture and dropouts every couple of seconds for the past 2 weeks. HD channels are unwatchable. A CSR told us solar flares were causing the problems.

Do you guys not get the digital simulcast versions of almost all the cable channels (except the locals 12-36 or so) on the channels above 100? When TWC threw the switch on the channel lineup in November, they began sending us digital versions of ALL cable channels above 36, besides AMC and Sci-Fi which are for some reason only broadcast in analog. You should be able to receive these digital versions if TWC broadcasts an all digital lineup in your area and you use any STB. Our Moxi's picked up both analog and digital versions of these channels and i compared side by side and the digital simulcasts look better using native pass through (480i) to our 2 HDTV's. I programmed the channel guide not to show the analog stations for which there is a digital counterpart so that my family will always watch the channels with the better PQ, except on our 3 analog TV's.

Overall we are pretty fed up with TWC's new service and our price is at an all time high, but we still lack certain digital tier channels we desire and only have Cinnemax as a free promotion for another 2 months or so. TWC's internet service has definately suffered, i doubt we'll ever see the 4.1 update for the Moxi's, which do lag, and the Moxi mate has never been offered for our BMC 9022D. There are rumors the Moxi will be replaced with DCT 6416 (or perhaps 3416 because of the digital simulcast here) units, which seem to give users even more headaches than the Moxi.

We are seriously considering switching to either D* or E* as their packages seem to offer more channels for roughly the same price, with arguably better equipment, especially the HD DVR's. We will probably switch to Verizon Fios internet, and we may consider Fios TV as well. This way, we will have 100% digital TV throughout the house with greater DVR and EPG functionality with the full channel lineup on each TV set.


Still weighing my options............
Are you positive that the duplicate channels above 100 are digital? here in canoga park they are the exact same analog channel, just mapped to two different virtual channels, i have verified this extensively through my cablecard setup, TBS, USA, TNT, ESPN, ESPN2, Comedy Central, etc...are all duplicated in the 100's but are analog, i suppose your situation might be different, where are located/exactly which TW lineup off of their website do you have?

Are you positive that the duplicate channels above 100 are digital? here in canoga park they are the exact same analog channel, just mapped to two different virtual channels, i have verified this extensively through my cablecard setup, TBS, USA, TNT, ESPN, ESPN2, Comedy Central, etc...are all duplicated in the 100's but are analog, i suppose your situation might be different, where are located/exactly which TW lineup off of their website do you have?
I'm in ventura county, using the Newbury Park headend, and i have not positively verified these channels as digital simulcasts, however the quality, when comparing, say comedy central 62 (analog) to comedy central 109 (digital ?) the difference is CLEAR, and TWC has mentioned numerous times they have switched to an all digital cable lineup, so i'm pretty sure we have digital simulcast turned on out here, but as for the rest of you, i have no idea. I believe we were on an outdated Adelphia infrastructure system before TWC took over because we had VERY limited HD capacity with Adelphia, pulling in only the locals, ESPN, HBO, and Show in HD. We currently have 20 HD channels in our lineup out of the NP head end, this is including all premium HD channels, PPV HD, and FSNHD of course, but it's still a hell of a lot more than Adelphia ever offered us. I'm still fed up with TWC though and if i've done my calculations right, at our current price, we could opt to receive more channels at a SLIGHTLY lower price with ANY of the other three TV operators available around here.

Another thing to consider, your 100+ might in fact be digital, but quite possibly TWC is encrypting them and thus your QAM tuner will not pull them in. With our QAM tuner on our Panasonic plasma, encrypted channels are picked up by the QAM tuner, but when you tune to that channel it appears as if there's no signal or low signal strength and the TV will not pull the channel in, so just because you can't see TBS, USA, TNT, ESPN, ESPN2, Comedy Central for example, doesn't necessarily mean TWC isn't broadcasting those in digital, it might just mean they're encrypted which would make a lot of sense since they make you pay to rent either a CableCard or STB to pull in their digital channels, which have, for the most part, BETTER PQ. Maybe i'm not fully understanding your method of verifying these channels as analog, but it seems to me that a QAM tuner failing to find an active TNT channel for example does not mean they don't broadcast it digitally.

If these 100+ channels are really remapped analogs for the STB's, what possible purpose could TWC have in doing this? It really just makes the guide more cumbersome and less user friendly, except on the Moxi's where i just deleted the analog simulcasts.

If anyone is pulling the full TWC digital lineup (or just the standard cable channels) through clear QAM, PLEASE LET US KNOW. It may be a good idea to ask those who are in other areas who positively have digital simulcast, possibly with a different cable co. even, if they can pull their standard cable channels through clear QAM, or if they still need a CC or STB. It was always my assumption that when cable co's did digital simulcasting, they would leave analog on for SD TV's, and the digital channels would be for those TV's with either a cablecard or an STB connection.

I'm in ventura county, using the Newbury Park headend, and i have not positively verified these channels as digital simulcasts, however the quality, when comparing, say comedy central 62 (analog) to comedy central 109 (digital ?) the difference is CLEAR, and TWC has mentioned numerous times they have switched to an all digital cable lineup, so i'm pretty sure we have digital simulcast turned on out here, but as for the rest of you, i have no idea. I believe we were on an outdated Adelphia infrastructure system before TWC took over because we had VERY limited HD capacity with Adelphia, pulling in only the locals, ESPN, HBO, and Show in HD. We currently have 20 HD channels in our lineup out of the NP head end, this is including all premium HD channels, PPV HD, and FSNHD of course, but it's still a hell of a lot more than Adelphia ever offered us. I'm still fed up with TWC though and if i've done my calculations right, at our current price, we could opt to receive more channels at a SLIGHTLY lower price with ANY of the other three TV operators available around here.

Another thing to consider, your 100+ might in fact be digital, but quite possibly TWC is encrypting them and thus your QAM tuner will not pull them in. With our QAM tuner on our Panasonic plasma, encrypted channels are picked up by the QAM tuner, but when you tune to that channel it appears as if there's no signal or low signal strength and the TV will not pull the channel in, so just because you can't see TBS, USA, TNT, ESPN, ESPN2, Comedy Central for example, doesn't necessarily mean TWC isn't broadcasting those in digital, it might just mean they're encrypted which would make a lot of sense since they make you pay to rent either a CableCard or STB to pull in their digital channels, which have, for the most part, BETTER PQ. Maybe i'm not fully understanding your method of verifying these channels as analog, but it seems to me that a QAM tuner failing to find an active TNT channel for example does not mean they don't broadcast it digitally.

If these 100+ channels are really remapped analogs for the STB's, what possible purpose could TWC have in doing this? It really just makes the guide more cumbersome and less user friendly, except on the Moxi's where i just deleted the analog simulcasts.

If anyone is pulling the full TWC digital lineup (or just the standard cable channels) through clear QAM, PLEASE LET US KNOW. It may be a good idea to ask those who are in other areas who positively have digital simulcast, possibly with a different cable co. even, if they can pull their standard cable channels through clear QAM, or if they still need a CC or STB. It was always my assumption that when cable co's did digital simulcasting, they would leave analog on for SD TV's, and the digital channels would be for those TV's with either a cablecard or an STB connection.
there was a press release TW put out during the reallignment, there was some BS about creating groups of similar channels in the 100's, 200's etc, so that people could find channels more easily, the tuner in my TV displays whether the channel is digital or analog, and the triple-digit channel duplicates are definitely analog for me, in the press release from like last september TW had some stupid BS about needing to put all the sports channels together and all the chick channels together etc... (for me there are sports channels are in the 250's, the 1st four sports channels in the 250's simply tune to the analog version of ESPN, ESPN2, FSNW, and FSN-PT), they are DEFINITELY analog, if i tune back and forth a random number of times i cant tell which channel i'm on, also if they were digital i'd be able to record them to my A/VHD but if i hit record while on these channels my tv tells me i dont have a VCR, but i can record the SD-digital channels to the A/VHD no problem (speed, outdoor, etc...), i'm very tempted to dump my cable service, because my apartment comes with free basic, and i tested it out before the installer came out, according to the san fernando valley lineup, i was getting the full basic package (all the analogs 2-80'ish), and the HD locals through clear qam (no TNTHD or DiscHD though), they were not mapping to the correct virtual channels though so i had to hunt them down (they used to map correctly last fall), sometimes i wonder if maybe the duplicates are supposed to be digital feeds, and TW is just so incompetent someone forgot to flip the appropriate switch

Very Interesting. Well, if i were you i would dump TWC and either just use the basic analog for free or add another digital service, D*, E*, and Fios all seem to offer slightly better deals and programming packages.
the tuner in my TV displays whether the channel is digital or analog, and the triple-digit channel duplicates are definitely analog for me
Could you explain this further? I'm a bit confused because if these channels are just remapped analogs through the STB's for you, then how can you pick up the 100+ channels through your TV's tuner? It sounds like TWC is just telling it's STB's (in your area) to show the analogs twice and they assign basically random channel numbers to these duplicates through the STB, but this would mean you SHOULD only be able to pull the original analog channels through your TV's tuner, such as comedy central on 62 (might be a different channel # for you but you see where i'm going). The triple digit duplicates aren't ACTUALLY on the 100+ channels they say they are on through the STB's, in other words, comedy central 109 is not ACTUALLY on channel 109, it sounds like, for you at least, the STB just tunes to the analog (com. cent. 62) channel, and just puts a 109 sticker on it.

Very Interesting. Well, if i were you i would dump TWC and either just use the basic analog for free or add another digital service, D*, E*, and Fios all seem to offer slightly better deals and programming packages.

Could you explain this further? I'm a bit confused because if these channels are just remapped analogs through the STB's for you, then how can you pick up the 100+ channels through your TV's tuner? It sounds like TWC is just telling it's STB's (in your area) to show the analogs twice and they assign basically random channel numbers to these duplicates through the STB, but this would mean you SHOULD only be able to pull the original analog channels through your TV's tuner, such as comedy central on 62 (might be a different channel # for you but you see where i'm going). The triple digit duplicates aren't ACTUALLY on the 100+ channels they say they are on through the STB's, in other words, comedy central 109 is not ACTUALLY on channel 109, it sounds like, for you at least, the STB just tunes to the analog (com. cent. 62) channel, and just puts a 109 sticker on it.
NFS, i know it's not on channel 109, channel 109 is a virtual channel that is mapped to actual channel 62, my tv's tuner does this because i have a cable card, if i pull out the cable card, and just go for in the clear, there is no channel 109, there is only one comedy central analog (47 for me), it's not just STB's, if you have cablecards it uses the same channel mapping information that the STB's use (or it should at least), if i use my tv's tuner wo/the cablecard, all the clear qam digitals are hidden in subchannels between the 90's and 120's, for instance KCALHD is channel 116-4; while with the cablecard or through the STB it's channel 409, i'm just about ready to drop TW today, but i need to get my HSI situation straightened out, because i've been told several times that TW won't just provide HSI, they force you to sign up for digital cable, i suppose if i went into their cust service center with my equipment and said i want out they might just let me have HSI, but if the copper from my apt to my ILEC is good, DSL should be cheaper/bandwidth anyways. Fios isn't an option for me, my neighborhood is too low rent for verizon to do the early upgrade, and D* and E* would be very iffy, i kinda-sorta-almost have a view of the south-eastern sky from my apartment's balcony, but other than ESPNHD, there really isnt anything that's not on basic cable that i need (and i dont even need ESPNHD until college football season), the way i break it down, my apartment comes with basic (which when i checked was all the analogs still, plus the clear qam), is it worth it to shell out upwards of 50/month just for a couple of extra channels? i mean i already get most of the channels that i'm interested in watching for free, so it really doesn't seem worth it, unless they are willing to do something like deduct the cost of full basic from my bill every month (fat chance of that, i might as well wish in one hand and crap in the other and....well you know) hopefully cable will lose ESPN Gameplan this fall to D* also, then it will make coming back to a premium service provider easy

NFS, i know it's not on channel 109, channel 109 is a virtual channel that is mapped to actual channel 62, my tv's tuner does this because i have a cable card, if i pull out the cable card, and just go for in the clear, there is no channel 109, there is only one comedy central analog (47 for me), it's not just STB's, if you have cablecards it uses the same channel mapping information that the STB's use (or it should at least), if i use my tv's tuner wo/the cablecard, all the clear qam digitals are hidden in subchannels between the 90's and 120's, for instance KCALHD is channel 116-4; while with the cablecard or through the STB it's channel 409, i'm just about ready to drop TW today, but i need to get my HSI situation straightened out, because i've been told several times that TW won't just provide HSI, they force you to sign up for digital cable, i suppose if i went into their cust service center with my equipment and said i want out they might just let me have HSI, but if the copper from my apt to my ILEC is good, DSL should be cheaper/bandwidth anyways. Fios isn't an option for me, my neighborhood is too low rent for verizon to do the early upgrade, and D* and E* would be very iffy, i kinda-sorta-almost have a view of the south-eastern sky from my apartment's balcony, but other than ESPNHD, there really isnt anything that's not on basic cable that i need (and i dont even need ESPNHD until college football season), the way i break it down, my apartment comes with basic (which when i checked was all the analogs still, plus the clear qam), is it worth it to shell out upwards of 50/month just for a couple of extra channels? i mean i already get most of the channels that i'm interested in watching for free, so it really doesn't seem worth it, unless they are willing to do something like deduct the cost of full basic from my bill every month (fat chance of that, i might as well wish in one hand and crap in the other and....well you know) hopefully cable will lose ESPN Gameplan this fall to D* also, then it will make coming back to a premium service provider easy
I see, so cablecard channels are mapped using the same system as the STB's, interesting. TWC has upgraded their service and offerings for me, however the quality of these services and the ones we were already receiving has gone WAY down, so i'm really about a week from switching to E* or D*. TWC is wrong, they WILL provide HSI for you regardless of whether or not you subscribe to a digital cable package, so just tell them you want internet and you should be fine, they'll choose your $40/month for internet over nothing.

Good luck getting your situation figured out =)

Is the HD tier really worth adding?

Nah, why would it? It's not like you have an HDTV or anything like that, right? ;)

I made 9 calls to tech support today trying to drop an HD premium channel (Cinemax) and add a tier (Sports). Twice I got through to a live person but their system was down for maintenance. 6 calls I was put on hold for at least 15 minutes and I hung up. The last call 10 minutes ago was answered by a machine with a hardly sexy female voice telling me the call could not be completed and it hung up.

I can almost live with compressed video feeds, a lineup that needs a college degree to understand, and a less than fully informed technical service department but can't they just pickup the phone??? TWC's saving grace is the Interent is working as it has been for months.

Has anyone else in So Cal noticed the terrible PQ on Discovery HD? All of the HD channels have been degraded since the change over from the legacy Adelphia system. Discovery HD used to be one of the best.

I called a rep yesterday but the computers were down. He promised to call back but never did. He claimed that the PQ problems since the change over had been largely resolved. This is not a "solar flare" issue.

I watch Discovery HD and it looks stunning on my end.

I made 9 calls to tech support today trying to drop an HD premium channel (Cinemax) and add a tier (Sports).
You can't drop an "HD premium channel" because HD premium channels are included free with your subscription to the premium service. Cinnemax HD is treated as if it were just another Cinnemax SD channel. You subscribe to Cinnemax, you automatically get Cinnemax HD. Same goes for HBO, Showtime, and Starz. To drop the channel, you must drop all of Cinnemax too. I suppose if you don't want to drop Cinnemax but just Cinnemax HD, they might turn off just that channel for you, but i see no purpose in doing so as they won't reduce your bill in any way.

I meant all of Cinemax. In any case, I finally got through on Sunday night after 12 calls at 23:45, just 1/2 hr before the normal daily system downtime. It's funny how when solar flares happen, there's a message about it on the their line but any other problem is dealt with by 'Our engineers are aware of the problem and are working to resolve it."

Has anyone else in So Cal noticed the terrible PQ on Discovery HD? All of the HD channels have been degraded since the change over from the legacy Adelphia system. Discovery HD used to be one of the best.

I called a rep yesterday but the computers were down. He promised to call back but never did. He claimed that the PQ problems since the change over had been largely resolved. This is not a "solar flare" issue.

I've posted several times about the same issues. They come out tomorrow for the 4th damn time in the last month!! The first one they missed, the next two, the techs agreed there are problems, but I never got the follow up, or the problems resolved.

Blocking, pulsation, bad on the HD channels, and this was before the "solar flares".

This time, a supervisor is going to show up, I'm told...... we'll see.

I watch Discovery HD and it looks stunning on my end.

What size set are you watching on?

here in canoga park . . . TBS, USA, TNT, ESPN, ESPN2, Comedy Central, etc...are all duplicated in the 100's but are analog

I'm in Woodland Hills and I can tell you for certain that all those duped channels above 100 are Digital. In fact, here's a screenshot of my OnAir tuner's scan of TWC LA's feed:

http://soopahman.info/for/onair/twcla.gif

The top window is Analog where the channels line up normally, you can see Comedy Central, VH1, etc in there - they appear once. That list of channels ends at 99. The bottom window is the Digital listing by QAM number, and you can see Comedy Central, etc there - their QAM numbers are all over the place but on the TWC boxes that QAM number is mapped to those above-100 numbers in the Guide. The Digital listing is larger than I can fit in the shot, but TNT, Comedy Central etc all show up in their second form in Digital - at slightly higher quality.

Since Canoga Park is extremely close by I suspect you have the same channel setup as I do. How are you determining whether your channels are Analog or Digital?

I'm in Woodland Hills and I can tell you for certain that all those duped channels above 100 are Digital. In fact, here's a screenshot of my OnAir tuner's scan of TWC LA's feed:

The top window is Analog where the channels line up normally, you can see Comedy Central, VH1, etc in there - they appear once. That list of channels ends at 99. The bottom window is the Digital listing by QAM number, and you can see Comedy Central, etc there - their QAM numbers are all over the place but on the TWC boxes that QAM number is mapped to those above-100 numbers in the Guide. The Digital listing is larger than I can fit in the shot, but TNT, Comedy Central etc all show up in their second form in Digital - at slightly higher quality.

Since Canoga Park is extremely close by I suspect you have the same channel setup as I do. How are you determining whether your channels are Analog or Digital?
Canoga park may be close by, but i can tell just by looking at the analog listings, we have different channel lineups, my comedy central anlog is 47, my espn2 is 33, and my cnn is 60

I'm making the determination two ways: first, when i press guide on my tv (mits-62627), it shows a list of channels with a 'D' if the channel is digital, and an 'A' if the channel is analog, plus there is a signal strength indicator for each channel, but only works on the digital channels because it's actualy some permutation of the bit-error-rate; second, if i use previous channel back and forth between, the triple digit channel and the corresponding double-digit analog channel there is absolutely no difference in picture quality, my cable is split several times, and the triple digit channel shows the type of noise you would expect from a lowered signal strength on an analog channel, i'm about to pick up a tuner card for my PC that can do clear qam, then i'll really be able to tell for-sure-for-sure, or i can take a pic of my tv screen where it says which channels are digital or analog, got any good recommendations for a tuner card that does clear qam and NTSC (don't really care about OTA)?

I am noticing a sligh t issue with my 6416, every once in a while the front LED flickers. Last night I was watching Family Guy on ch. 411 and I pressed the rec. button to record(from the "INFO" banner) and it did not want to record(my DVR is not full, it is only at 57%). Anybody notice a similar issue with theirs?

What size set are you watching on?

50"

I just called TW and CSR told me my current monthly balance $61.50( 1 Motorola 6416 with digital and variety tiers, and 1 analog hookup) to me this seems to be a good price. What are you guys paying???

CORRECTION: The price I stated above is with the HD Tier. without the HD tier it is $55.50( but I am looking to add the HD tier and a Premum Promotion with in the next couple weeks).

I just called TW and CSR told me my current monthly balance $66.50( 1 Motorola 6416 with digital and variety tiers, and 1 analog hookup) to me this seems to be a good price. What are you guys paying???
i'm all over the place, because i'm trying to get down to barebones to save some $$$, that seems like a lot for not having any premiums, you could probably do better with a DBS provider

I've posted several times about the same issues. They come out tomorrow for the 4th damn time in the last month!! The first one they missed, the next two, the techs agreed there are problems, but I never got the follow up, or the problems resolved.

Blocking, pulsation, bad on the HD channels, and this was before the "solar flares".

This time, a supervisor is going to show up, I'm told...... we'll see.

Let me know if there is any improvement after this visit. The TW techs tell me there is a problem but it has not been fixed.

I have a 60" Sony XBR2 with a cable card connection. Every PQ problem is very apparent.

Vandals sever a fiber line of Time Warner Cable
James S. Granelli
March 7, 2007

About 40,000 Time Warner Cable Inc. customers in Costa Mesa and Claremont lost access to about 40 channels for several hours Tuesday when vandals cut a fiber-optic line carrying the signals, the company said.

The affected channels included feeds from affiliates of broadcast networks.

The channels went out at about 4:45 p.m., a spokeswoman said.

Time Warner's high-speed Internet and phone service were not affected. The cable operator said it was working with police regarding a spate of vandalism experienced by the company in recent months.

— James S. Granelli http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-briefs7.1mar07,1,2298316.story