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RudyG

12-29-07, 10:25 PM

Does anyone know for sure if TWC offer FSN HD in Los Angeles area, specifically in San Gabriel? I don't see it in the HDTV package on their site but some people here seem to have it.

Can't tell you if it is available in San Gabriel, but here in West Los Angeles it is available. It is channel 413 if you have a cable box and channel 100.507 over clear QAM.

Also if I subscribe to HDTV package(TNT HD, LOCAL HD, ESPN HD, etc) can I just use my QAM-capable TV to tune to these channels without a box? My TV doesn't have a cablecard slot.

Thanks.
No those channels are scrambled and are not available over clear QAM.

joe221

12-30-07, 12:13 AM

We will all have a unique opportunity to compare what a great negative effect subchannels have on PQ when both KNBC & KCBS will simulcast the Patriots game with the NFL network this Saturday.Look for much more pixellation on KNBC who keep insisting on carrying stupid subchannels thus ruining the quality on their HD broadcast.The massive pixellation every Sunday night has bothered me for a long time and it got even worse with the introduction of digital raw 4.4.I really wish that they would consider changing to 720p like KCET did as the pixellation is now much less nowadays.I really wish KNBC would do something before this summer with the Bejing Olympics comming up but i'm sure NBC is mandating 1080i for owned and operated stations.

I felt the same between CBS and NBC even OTA but I wound up watching the game on NFL Network on D* as I perceived their picture as even better. It could be because they originated so it was one less bounce?? or it was just me but I thought it was stunning.

carljanderson

12-30-07, 12:24 PM

CBS is winning hands down here in Fountain Valley even the quality of sound is miles ahead

That is odd (or maybe I am), but I had to switch from CBS to NBC due to sound issues. On CBS, I kept getting brief audio drops.

(TWC in Huntington Beach).

AnthemAVM

12-30-07, 01:02 PM

CBS blew away NBC on FIOS also.

jd2k1

12-30-07, 07:20 PM

Can't tell you if it is available in San Gabriel, but here in West Los Angeles it is available. It is channel 413 if you have a cable box and channel 100.507 over clear QAM.

So FSN HD is available on clear QAM? I tried a scan earlier and couldn't find it. Is there always something on that channel or only when FSN HD programming is on? I think this channel is FSN HD it's showing VALPO VS UNC NCAA Basketball right now(5:00PM PST)

Dang, really want to see the Lakers tonight on HD. Thanks for the info though.

joe221

12-30-07, 07:46 PM

So FSN HD is available on clear QAM? I tried a scan earlier and couldn't find it. Is there always something on that channel or only when FSN HD programming is on? Maybe it's only available around W. LA. Dang, really want to see the Lakers tonight on HD. Thanks for the info though.

It's an On When Something's On channel but it open in QAM.

plateofshrimp

12-30-07, 09:19 PM

So January is a day away and TW hasn't said ANYTHING about new HD-Channels yet?

RudyG

12-31-07, 01:40 PM

So January is a day away and TW hasn't said ANYTHING about new HD-Channels yet?
Probably because our area, Southern Cal, is unlikely to see anything until at least 2009, if then. This of course is my opinion only.
If there was exciting news to share I'm sure it would have been. ;)

Here is a link that is good to bookmark. It points to the TWC Programming Alerts. This is where all additions and changes are announced. It looks like the channel numbers for the music stations will be changed again. And sometime by February a new channel will be added called VH1 Classic. I'm certain it is not in HD though.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html

Enjoy.
Rudy

joe221

12-31-07, 04:08 PM

Probably because our area, Southern Cal, is unlikely to see anything until at least 2009, if then. This of course is my opinion only.
If there was exciting news to share I'm sure it would have been. ;)

Here is a link that is good to bookmark. It points to the TWC Programming Alerts. This is where all additions and changes are announced. It looks like the channel numbers for the music stations will be changed again. And sometime by February a new channel will be added called VH1 Classic. I'm certain it is not in HD though.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html

Enjoy.
Rudy

VH1-C is just changing from an East coast feed to West, nothing new being added.

vandebo

12-31-07, 07:54 PM

After a bit of searching I wasn't able to find a simple list of clear QAM channels available in my area, so here's the one I made. If I'm missing channels, I'd appreciate a reply. If this is against etiquette, sorry in advance. (Also, the channel numbers are translated from actual frequencies, so may be off, but it looks right.)

TimeWarner, extended basic, West LA (90024) Clear QAM:

79.1 KABC
79.2 KAZA
79.3 KCET
79.4 KCOP
79.5 KDOC
79.6 KTTV
79.7 KMEX
79.8 KWHY
79.9 KTLA
79.10 KRCA
79.11 KFTR
79.12 KXLA
80.16 KCBS
80.18 KNBC
80.20 KTBN
80.23 KSCI
80.24 KVEA
80.26 HSN
80.19 ION
80.25 CSPAN
80.21 KJLA
80.22 KLCS
80.17 KCAL
81.36 TBS
82.38 VH1
82.39 Comedy
82.40 A&E
82.42 MUN2
82.43 TVLand
82.45 ESPN2
82.46 ESPN
83.52 AMC
86.108 TimeWarner Ads
86.110 Style
86.109 TCM
87.91 KVMDDT
87.65 QVC
87.88 KOCE
87.89 WGN
87.90 KHIZ
87.1 QVC
87.64 Disney
87.93 CSPAN2
87.87 KABC
92.409 V-Me
93.501 KCBSHD
93.502 KNBCHD
93.503 NewsRaw (KNBC Subchannel)
94.504 KABCHD
94.506 KCETHD
94.505 KTTVHD
96.225 DHC
100.507 FSN HD (test bars when off air)
103.518 ESPNHD (No sound)
104.525 KCALHD
111.22 TimeWarner on demand ads
116.235 WTHRPL
116.237 KABCW
116.236 KABCDT
118.212 ShpNBC
118.228 TWC
118.231 TVGN 1
118.222 Public 1
118.221 Public 2
118.220 Public 3
118.229 TVGN 2
118.230 TVGN 22
118.223 Public 4
118.224 CityTV
119.215 Public 5
119.219 LACH
119.218 Public 6
119.214 Public 7
119.213 Public 8
119.211 Public 9
119.209 Arts
119.208 Public 10
119.217 LACITY
119.226 Public 11
119.227 Public 12
121.204 KTLAHD
122.405 KOCEHD

--
Steve

tomas21

01-02-08, 12:38 PM

Does anyone have recommendations for getting the best deal on a renewal at TWC cable?

Currently I have Digital cable + Road Runner Basic + HD DVR for $77 a month OTD. From what I can tell the best deal is the Surf + View for $79 + dvr fees + taxes coming to $100 OTD roughly.

Input is appreciated.

slickshoes

01-02-08, 05:29 PM

dylan24

01-02-08, 05:51 PM

Hopefully we might be getting some new HD soon, engadget HD posted they added A&E HD and History HD in Omaha, and this guy posted in the comments section:

"Here in Albany, NY, TWC added some new HD channels about a week before xmas: The History Channel, National Geographic, Food Network, a few cruddy sports channels, CNN-HD, Animal Planet, and several others that I can't remember right now."

This would be fantastic!

I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. For some reason, TWC provides more cutting edge HD services to markets such as Omaha, Neb., Albany, NY, and Raleigh, NC, rather than the second biggest media market in the country.

Mogur2

01-03-08, 12:34 AM

Hi,
I just spoke with TWC to find out what is required to disconnect cable tv. He tried to tell me that when I watch the Science channel HD or NatGeo HD on a friend's Direct Satellite it not really HD! I guess is 72" Plasma really upconverts very well. <bg>

I will be calling Direct to find out the details and will probably make the change in a week or two. I have to check my my remote programming guro to syncronize the installation with his schedule to program my universal remote.

I think 6 months of empty promises are enough.

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joe221

01-03-08, 01:20 AM

Mogur2

01-03-08, 02:42 PM

Thanks, I do have a friend's info. How do you like their service? My worry is that I do have two HD DVR that can both record two at a time. Does Direct have this capability?

If you have any friends with D* you each can get $50 for the referral. I neglected to ask my friend about it (didn't know) and felt bad for both of us.

joe221

01-03-08, 09:00 PM

Thanks, I do have a friend's info. How do you like their service? My worry is that I do have two HD DVR that can both record two at a time. Does Direct have this capability?

I like it just fine so far. I got a great intro package. I got the Football (Sunday Ticket) and NASCAR and Premier packages for 4 months. Then I get to choose what I'll got long term with. I have to make my decision late Feb. Yes each DVR can tune and record 2 shows. I wound up with 2 HR20s and an H21. I wanted the ability to use the ATSC tuner (the HR21 nada) so that was my reasoning. Ir you have no need for ATSC the HR21 is the newest and coolest looking (black) version out.

Mogur2

01-03-08, 09:34 PM

Thanks. This is very helpful. Where can I find info on the HR21? Who is the vendor?

CaCHooKa Man

01-03-08, 09:52 PM

joe221

01-03-08, 10:33 PM

Thanks. This is very helpful. Where can I find info on the HR21? Who is the vendor?

DirecTV?
:confused:

We're probably too far off topic for this thread. I suggest you do further research here on AVS or http://www.dbstalk.com/ for more D* info.

RudyG

01-04-08, 01:29 AM

I'm getting an HDTV within a week and I only have standard cable from TWC. If I were to upgrade to digital cable, would I only need to add a HD receiver for the 1 HDTV and keep using the normal cables I have connected to the rest of my TVs? We have 10 TVs in total connected to the cable and it would be very expensive to have a receiver for each of them.
This would be dictated by the type of TV you are buying. If the TV you purchase will have a QAM tuner then you'll be able to tune all of the digital channels and the free HD channels from TWC without any sort of a box or even a cable card.
The free HD channels that TWC offers at the moment are CBS, NBC, CW, ABC, KCAL, Fox, my13, KCET, KCOP and FSN West.

I suggest to you that once you decide on the make and model of the television you plan on purchasing that you search for it here on avsforum. Not only will it help you make a better choice it will also be very educational. Highly recommended.

Good Luck.
Rudy

mythofpower

01-04-08, 05:56 PM

Anybody has the TWC Clear QAM channels for Fullerton?

Thanks in advance,
Mop

danki6x

01-05-08, 04:39 PM

picachux

01-07-08, 01:05 AM

I was watching Channel 13 UPN and saw yesterday that they were broadcasting in HD. When was this added? Anyone know the QAM channel for that?

ramkla007

01-07-08, 06:08 PM

I have TWC but not happy with the minimal number of HD channels. I got a call from AT&T today that their U-verse is now available in my area. Has anyone had any experience with this? Does AT&T U-verse have good quality HD transmission? They seem to have 30+ HD channels available, although it is $10 extra per month.

twelvepbrs

01-07-08, 07:36 PM

I was watching Channel 13 UPN and saw yesterday that they were broadcasting in HD. When was this added? Anyone know the QAM channel for that?
D* just added my-13 and KCAL in HD (about three weeks ago) for the LA locals, maybe TW is trying to keep up; although 13 doesn't really show anything in HD AFAIK (hopefully they'll do Angels' games in HD for the '08 season)
I can check what channel it is using my HDHR when I get home, but it might be different for you (i'm in westminster)

joe221

01-07-08, 08:03 PM

D* just added my-13 and KCAL in HD (about three weeks ago) for the LA locals, maybe TW is trying to keep up; although 13 doesn't really show anything in HD AFAIK (hopefully they'll do Angels' games in HD for the '08 season)
I can check what channel it is using my HDHR when I get home, but it might be different for you (i'm in westminster)

I thought they were running "Novellas" in prime time in HD?

Mad Mac

01-08-08, 12:36 AM

Anyone else "lost" the clear QAM feed of KTLA HD? I'm not seeing it on my PC, TV or DVD recorder. Comes in OK on the TW PVR.

picachux

01-08-08, 03:01 AM

Just check the only Guide which goes back far enough. It was Saturday January 5th 9:00pm.

Listing:

Control Room Presents (CC) HDTV

Enrique Iglesias performs at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast, Ireland, in support of his 2007 album "Insomniac." Songs include "Do You Know," "Be With You," "Bailamos" and "Hero."

I just caught the beginning when they put up a banner that said presented in HD thanks to some company. I'm Downtown L.A, TWC Antenna Service using a Sony HDTV to pick up QAM channels. Have every other digital local channel but UPN/KCOP and TELEMUNDO.

joe221

01-08-08, 02:13 PM

Anyone else "lost" the clear QAM feed of KTLA HD? I'm not seeing it on my PC, TV or DVD recorder. Comes in OK on the TW PVR.

I'm in West LA and 5 is fine in QAM.

So, what is the KCOP 13 QAM?? I can't find it. I did find Mojo HD but like ESPN HD no sound!

picachux

01-08-08, 02:40 PM

I'm in West LA and 5 is fine in QAM.

So, what is the KCOP 13 QAM?? I can't find it. I did find Mojo HD but like ESPN HD no sound!

Haven't been able to find it yet, I will probably scan later today and see if my

tv picks it up.

chuckie59

01-08-08, 07:32 PM

WackyPacks

01-09-08, 12:02 AM

Anybody see the TWC flyer in the mail about free HD Channels? The ad says the freebies are KCBS, KNBC, KTLA, KABC, KCAL, KTTV, KCET, HD Theater, ESPN-HD, ESPN2-HD, FSN-HD, HDPPV, MusicHD, TBS-HD, and TNT-HD. Guess they mean those are free if you subscribe to a digital tier, because all those channels are not broadcasting in the clear if one is just using a QAM tuner. Yes, I know PPV channels require a box, but the ad makes it seem like all TWC subscribers get them free.

Adelmoxi

01-09-08, 08:54 PM

Kablemodem

01-11-08, 01:32 AM

From here: (http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html)

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future:

Starz, Encore, MBC (Korean), The History Channel en Español, DIY on Demand, Fine Living on Demand, Food Network on Demand, HGTV, HGTV on Demand, Lifeskool On Demand; Boomerang On Demand, CNN Showcase On Demand, Adult Swim On Demand, Court TV On Demand, TCM on Demand, TBS On Demand, TNT On Demand, Cartoon Network on Demand, Sleuth, Universal HD, USA Network, GMA Pinoy, A&E, Biography, Flix, GSN, Hallmark, Hallmark Movie Channel, The History Channel, History International, Showtime, The Movie Channel, Oxygen On Demand, BBC On Demand, La Familia Cosmovision, Inspiration Network, GolTV, and NBC Universal On Demand.

I guess they'd better get busy then. Some of those are my favorite channels.

Sorry if this has already been posted.

joe221

01-11-08, 02:49 AM

mythofpower

01-11-08, 02:56 AM

danki6x

01-11-08, 12:23 PM

I've tried a scan today. Could not find KCOP HD either.
Mop (in Fullerton)
The original message said Ch 13 had a notice about being broadcast in HD. That is not the same as TW having it on the cable line. There are a lot of shows that say they are broadcast in HD we do not get on the cable (e.g., History Ch, A&E, Food, etc.) Over-the-air you could get Ch 13 in HD though.

Dan

kenwebb

01-11-08, 01:58 PM

Kablemodem

01-11-08, 02:41 PM

I wish Howard TV was in HD. The weekly previews on MOJO are in HD and it looks so nice.

DSperber

01-11-08, 04:14 PM

I live in Fullerton Calif and i am sick and tired of TWC saying in the DVR menu ads that we have HD on Demand We don't I have never seen any menu selection for HD on demand ever and now we just got email saying they have added more HD on demand shows, all i want to know is where are they?Push the "OnDemand" button (or channel 1) on your remote. Wait for the OnDemand main menu to appear.

Then navigate to MOVIES and push OK.

Then navigate to HD MOVIES and push OK.

Presto. HD Movies to buy for $4.99 per 24-hours.

dylan24

01-11-08, 06:33 PM

I also don't have On Demand - HD here in Los Feliz - Eagle Rock head end.

CaCHooKa Man

01-11-08, 07:18 PM

hmm.. im only able to pick up 3 HD channels through my QAM tuner. all im getting is ABC, KCET and FOX. i think im getting FSN too since i have the color bars on that channel. all the hd channels are at a weird channel though 94-504, 94-505 and 94-506.

CaCHooKa Man

01-11-08, 08:39 PM

i did some tweaking with my cables and now i have all the locals in hd. i just had to do a little searching for what channel they are.

pixels

01-12-08, 12:40 AM

Push the "OnDemand" button (or channel 1) on your remote. Wait for the OnDemand main menu to appear.

Then navigate to MOVIES and push OK.

Then navigate to HD MOVIES and push OK.

Presto. HD Movies to buy for $4.99 per 24-hours.

DSperber,
I'm in the Marina like you and I don't have the HD OnDemand service :confused:
Can it be my receiver (3216)?

edwarto

01-12-08, 01:53 AM

DSperber,
I'm in the Marina like you and I don't have the HD OnDemand service :confused:
Can it be my receiver (3216)?

I am not sure and i cant check right now but my 8300HDC has the HD movies on demand i did a count there are 30 movies to watch .. but there $5 each

now i have a 8300hd and i dont think i have them i will check and update later

kenwebb

01-12-08, 02:05 AM

DSperber

I will look at menus again but I don't recall any entry labeled HD Movies as I said there is no HD on demand menu item at all, but I will check again

DSperber

01-12-08, 07:33 AM

DSperber,
I'm in the Marina like you and I don't have the HD OnDemand service :confused:
Can it be my receiver (3216)?3216? You mean 3416 (HD DVR) like me?

I'm "former Comcast", not Adelphia. I don't know why that should make a difference.

Do you have the HD Tier? I do.

Still have legacy pricing from your former carrier? A few months back I decided to ditch my old Comcast legacy pricing I was on and go full-on with TWC. I also have DirectTV for SD so I only need the least I'm required to have from TWC, just for HD. I pay extra only for HD Tier (and HBO + SHO premiums), and added phone. Pricewise, I'm saving money with this minimal TWC tier pricing.

Perhaps some of this is relevant.

DSperber

01-12-08, 07:37 AM

there is no HD on demand menu item at allNor on my 3416 menu.

It's OnDemand -> Movies -> HD Movies

There is no "HD on Demand" labeled that.

xrtfan

01-12-08, 07:45 AM

I checked and there is no HD movies on demand here in Thousand Oaks, just regular movies at $3.99 each. Also I don't have "HD Showcase" which they keep advertising

Andy_K

01-12-08, 10:37 AM

I'm "former Comcast", not Adelphia. I don't know why that should make a difference.

It might make a difference if we're talking about what services are available. I'm "former Adelphia," and before that former Century, former...Spectacor?..., former Group W...all without having ever changed location in Santa Monica. (I think I've left one or two out.) Even under Adelphia, I had different lineups and options from people just across the line in W. LA. I don't know whether it had to do with grandfathering in old packages or accommodating the hardware that already in place or simply something in the contracts when this area would change hands every few years, but these old affiliations still seem to affect what we can or can't get.

What's weird is that the Santa Monica "jigsaw puzzle piece" contains so many fancy big-bucks show-biz people -- I'm not one, sad to say -- yet we seem to always be among the last to get the latest services.

joe221

01-12-08, 12:31 PM

I asked before I left TWC. Former Adelphia shouldn't expect VOD-HD until March 08 or so.
Former Comcast "should" have it now...YMMV it's TWC.

pixels

01-12-08, 02:15 PM

3216? You mean 3416 (HD DVR) like me?

I'm "former Comcast", not Adelphia. I don't know why that should make a difference.

Do you have the HD Tier? I do.

Still have legacy pricing from your former carrier? A few months back I decided to ditch my old Comcast legacy pricing I was on and go full-on with TWC. I also have DirectTV for SD so I only need the least I'm required to have from TWC, just for HD. I pay extra only for HD Tier (and HBO + SHO premiums), and added phone. Pricewise, I'm saving money with this minimal TWC tier pricing.

Perhaps some of this is relevant.

Yeah it's a 3416 HD DVR.
I have the HD Tier and I signed up for cable after TWC took over my area. TI believe Adelphia was the former carrier in my area, which might me the reason I don't have the HD On Demand service.

I have the following available under On Demand (Ch. 1)
Local
Events
Kids
Entertainment
Cutting Edge
Lifestyle
International
My Rentals
Movies
Premium
Music
Marketplace
Sports & Fitness
En Espanol
Answers On Demand

pixels

01-12-08, 02:23 PM

I asked before I left TWC. Former Adelphia shouldn't expect VOD-HD until March 08 or so.
Former Comcast "should" have it now...YMMV it's TWC.

That explains... thanks!

DSperber

01-12-08, 03:39 PM

I have the following available under On Demand (Ch. 1)
Local
Events
Kids
Entertainment
Cutting Edge
Lifestyle
International
My Rentals
Movies
Premium
Music
Marketplace
Sports & Fitness
En Espanol
Answers On DemandFrom this list you will [eventually if you're "former Adelphia", hopefully, someday... maybe March] then navigate:

Movies -> HD Movies

There is no "HD on Demand" item on the main menu.

robshdtv

01-13-08, 09:33 PM

petey1287

01-13-08, 10:06 PM

Okay just found this thread after being on these forums for a while. My buddies have been bragging about D*V adding all their new HD channels, any idea when TWC starts stepping up?

Sorry if this has been discussed earlier.

Im with you on this too. I read the thread "More News about HD on TWC" and looks like L.A. is not ready for SDV yet. I would like to know when is SDV will be ready in L.A so we can get more HD channels. I feel like switching to D* but I'm staying with TWC since I have internet and soon, a digital phone service.

BTW Im in Carson.

robshdtv

01-14-08, 12:40 AM

Im with you on this too. I read the thread "More News about HD on TWC" and looks like L.A. is not ready for SDV yet. I would like to know when is SDV will be ready in L.A so we can get more HD channels. I feel like switching to D* but I'm staying with TWC since I have internet and soon, a digital phone service.

BTW Im in Carson.

Yup considering the market here in LA you would think HD with TWC would be a priority. I really hope they get the message and start pushing out more HD. Seeing those D*V commercials pushing 85 channels is starting to rattle my nerves. I want my Dirty Jobs in HD dang it!

I'm in Torrance.

RudyG

01-14-08, 02:28 AM

Okay just found this thread after being on these forums for a while. My buddies have been bragging about D*V adding all their new HD channels, any idea when TWC starts stepping up?

Sorry if this has been discussed earlier.
Well it has been discussed earlier and quite a lot. :)
But putting that aside, you should be able to answer your own question from the posts right on this page. To calculate a possible date you need to add up the following things.
1. When will TWC decide to roll out SDV in LA (or at least your area)
2. Once the decision is made how long will it actually take TWC to do the roll out. Be sure to include possible infrastructure upgrades as well as back end and consumer end equipment upgrades etc.
3. After all of this is done you'll need to add the amount of time it will take TWC to negotiate about 70 more contracts, to show HD content. Since currently they have at a maximum about 30 and to get to 100 as will D* 70 more are needed. To complicate things further, just because TWC signs a contract to carry the channel does not mean your regional office will actually let you see it. Current examples are the National Geographic Channel, the Food Network and several others. Some TWC subscribers on the east coast have been able to see those channels in HD for almost a year now, while we here in LA have not. For the most part I'm guessing this happens due to bandwidth limitation, or at least so I hope, but you never know.

While coming up with the estimation you need to keep in mind the size of TWC as a company, as that tends to have an enormous influence on how quickly decisions get made.
Just to give you a rough idea, the head of D* had stated in an interview that they started planning for their current HD offerings 3 years ago. Again keep in mind the size of D* and TWC.

Good Luck. :)
Rudy

joe221

01-14-08, 03:05 PM

When TWC or any cableco switches to Switched Digital Video, does traditional analog and QAM digital go away or can they coexist?
:confused:

twelvepbrs

01-14-08, 05:49 PM

When TWC or any cableco switches to Switched Digital Video, does traditional analog and QAM digital go away or can they coexist?
:confused:
It will/should be a balancing act. AFAIK, very popular channels won't be pushed to SDV (HD locals for example). If TWC would just replace a couple more analogs with SD-digital equivalents, they'd have plenty of room to add some of the new HD channels for which they have agreements. An analog channel takes up about six times as much bandwidth as a SD-digital channel and about two to three times as much bandwidth as an HD channel. This means that for each channel they switch from analog to SD-digital, they can add almost (about) two HD channels. The ideal change (numbers-wise IMHO), is to change three analogs to SD-digital; this would free up enough bandwidth to add FIVE HD channels!!!

mythofpower

01-15-08, 03:20 AM

RudyG

01-15-08, 05:17 AM

It will/should be a balancing act. AFAIK, very popular channels won't be pushed to SDV (HD locals for example). If TWC would just replace a couple more analogs with SD-digital equivalents, they'd have plenty of room to add some of the new HD channels for which they have agreements. An analog channel takes up about six times as much bandwidth as a SD-digital channel and about two to three times as much bandwidth as an HD channel. This means that for each channel they switch from analog to SD-digital, they can add almost (about) two HD channels. The ideal change (numbers-wise IMHO), is to change three analogs to SD-digital; this would free up enough bandwidth to add FIVE HD channels!!!
I agree with you in principal. However, my suggestion of removing the SD-Digital channels that have an analog and HD equivalent is much less controversial and does not require distribution of any hardware to all TWC subscribers. I understand that removing SD-digital does not free up as much bandwidth as removing an analog channel but it is much safer PR and customer service wise and should have already been done a long time ago.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. With SDV, is it true that TWC can (will) change the channels any time they want, since their STB will map to the correct numbers? so those of us w/o the STB (basic analog) will have to rescan to get the correct clear QAMs? I imagine that will render your favorite settings obsolete everytime they reshufle.
It is exceedingly unlikely that the SDV channels will be in the clear to begin with. ;) :) So we'll have little to worry about. :)
If anyone knows anyone in North Carolina where SDV has the biggest footprint they'll be able to ask them this specifically. There are a few other places back east that have SDV as well as parts of Hawaii, I believe.

Rudy

RudyG

01-15-08, 05:44 PM

Here are a couple of interesting articles on SDV that John Mason posted in another thread on nationwide TWC programming. A very interesting read, I thought.
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6463724.html
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6454447.html

Rudy

mythofpower

01-16-08, 12:49 AM

It is exceedingly unlikely that the SDV channels will be in the clear to begin with. ;) :) So we'll have little to worry about. :)

Rudy

Let's hope not:( I disklike the STB so much that I'd rather stay analog:)

RudyG

01-16-08, 03:43 AM

Let's hope not:( I disklike the STB so much that I'd rather stay analog:)
I think you and I may be out of luck though. The article talks about cable companies sending a signal for a single channel over multiple QAM channels to ensure proper bandwidth. So that right there all but eliminates the possibility of seeing the channels that have been placed into the SDV group over clear QAM.
And that's only one reason. There is also channel pooling coming along for SDV channels etc.

Rudy

mythofpower

01-16-08, 04:10 PM

I think you and I may be out of luck though. The article talks about cable companies sending a signal for a single channel over multiple QAM channels to ensure proper bandwidth. So that right there all but eliminates the possibility of seeing the channels that have been placed into the SDV group over clear QAM.
And that's only one reason. There is also channel pooling coming along for SDV channels etc.

Rudy

Rudy,

Thanks for pointing that out. Sounds like free QAM channels are here today gone tomorrow. I noticed what could be SDV initial deployment. In my area, the 113 to 115 are premium/on-demand/PPV channels. And I saw a lot of premium channels (eg. HBO) changed every time I flipping through those (I rescan once in awhile to see if they have channel 13 KCOP in HD yet). I'm wondering if that's SDV in action, or just on-demand broadcast?

Mad Mac

01-16-08, 04:30 PM

Anyone else "lost" the clear QAM feed of KTLA HD? I'm not seeing it on my PC, TV or DVD recorder. Comes in OK on the TW PVR.

Well, I did a rescan on my HD card last night, and KTLA HD didn't come in. A check on the diagnostics of the cable box showed it as 765 MHz. Now to find where that fits in.......

joe221

01-16-08, 11:22 PM

Well, I did a rescan on my HD card last night, and KTLA HD didn't come in. A check on the diagnostics of the cable box showed it as 765 MHz. Now to find where that fits in.......

I have it just fine in West LA.

RudyG

01-17-08, 04:23 AM

Rudy,

Thanks for pointing that out. Sounds like free QAM channels are here today gone tomorrow. I noticed what could be SDV initial deployment. In my area, the 113 to 115 are premium/on-demand/PPV channels. And I saw a lot of premium channels (eg. HBO) changed every time I flipping through those (I rescan once in awhile to see if they have channel 13 KCOP in HD yet). I'm wondering if that's SDV in action, or just on-demand broadcast?
No I don't think those are SDV, at least not yet. The HBO shows that you see on the channels in that range are simply On Demand shows that someone in your grid is replaying. I believe you will also see films that anyone in your grid has ordered in that same channel range.
Although the "behavior" of those channels is similar to the way SDV will behave, at least in part. Whenever SDV does get here to us in LA. Now if you read those articles you'll notice that not all the channels will be SDVed only the least watched ones in a particular area/grid. So there will still be stuff in clear QAM. Additionally the local channels cannot be SDVed either.

Speaking of articles, here is another one that some of you might find interesting. I haven't heard OpenCable discussed in a while here so here is an update on the technology from CES:
http://www.ddj.com/blog/javablog/archives/2008/01/tru2way.html

Rudy

brewsbro

01-17-08, 12:23 PM

I just bought a Toshiba 32" HDTV, and I am hooked directly to the basic cable line, no box. I receive 7 HD channels without any package in the Ontario, CA. area.

Over here in Upland, I have 8 HD channels on my Toshiba. Basic cable line, no box.

10-3 KTLA HD
93-1 CBS HD
93-2 NBC HD
94-1 ABC HD
94-2 FOX HD
94-3 PBS HD
104-1 KCAL HD
104-3 MHD

RudyG

01-17-08, 01:45 PM

By Mid February E* will allow us to subscribe to all of their HD channels for $30 a month. No SD channels, just HD. As some of you may know already E* has been planning on launching a few more satellites right around this time, so that they can compete with D* in the number of their HD offerings, so their current HD offering will continue to increase. Here is a thread with more info:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=971635

Rudy

Mad Mac

01-17-08, 05:09 PM

I have it just fine in West LA.

Got it back again last night with another rescan, but very choppy/stuttering. I went through something similar when they first added KCAL 9 HD.

RudyG

01-18-08, 02:04 PM

No more fixed rates it looks like:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,141500-c,dslcablesatellite/article.html

Rudy

Adelmoxi

01-18-08, 07:44 PM

Digeo is going back to the drawing board with the retail version of MOXI, but their is talk of a second generation cable version slated for later on in this quater. Unfortunately I (and maybe you too) believe that Time Warner will NOT carry this second generation. Let hope and pray

WELL HEY, AT LEAST THEY HAVE KTLA-HD IN ALL THEIR SoCal MARKETS.

GizmoDVD

01-19-08, 04:37 PM

I am so sick and tired of this damn DVR box. It freezes constantly, skips etc. What a peice of crap. Ive been thinking of switching to Tivo.

joe221

01-19-08, 07:21 PM

cal981

01-20-08, 11:51 AM

Any ones Kcal 9 in Hd cutting out i get a lost signal.

qwert1515

01-20-08, 08:24 PM

Any ones Kcal 9 in Hd cutting out i get a lost signal.

It happened to me a few times last night .

cal981

01-20-08, 09:04 PM

It happened to me a few times last night .

Yes all day today some times once a hour . So its at there end.

zealot9802

01-21-08, 03:05 PM

Yep. It kept cutting out for me around 9:30-10pm. Must of been on their end since all other channels worked fine.

llabine1

01-21-08, 03:22 PM

It's been off and on today too....I record all the law shows from 9am to 12 pm and half of them stopped then started.....I have 2 HDtv's and 2 DVR boxes...it was the same on both so it's definitely the signal...and it's only on 409.....weird

cal981

01-21-08, 04:15 PM

Here is a email I got from them

Yes, it is being fix by harris, the mfg. They are having trouble finding the problem, we hope to have it fixed later today. In the meantime kcal9 vhf is the place to go.

----- Original Message -----
From: viewerfeedback@cbslocal.com <viewerfeedback@cbslocal.com>
To: Harrison, Craig; Steensland, Melanie M; Hurd, Debra D; Logan, Greg S; Haight, Dan; Nakamura, Susan S; Gordon, Paul E
Sent: Mon Jan 21 05:43:43 2008
Subject: Comment - Technical

Are you guys having problems with your HDTV feed . Since Sunday I keep geting lost signal on my tv ch 9-1 DT .

llabine1

01-21-08, 06:00 PM

Thanks Cal for doing that....I have not had 9-1 in a while...and 409 has been iffy....I appreciate you updating us on what is happening...

kmattoo

01-22-08, 09:15 PM

Has anyone checked out Mojo lately? The sound isn't syncing with the picture at all. The sound is a second or so behind the video. Anyone else having this issue?

nomadpass

01-23-08, 07:48 PM

:mad:

mojo isnt syncing for me either

Makavetis

01-24-08, 12:03 AM

any new channels comin up for So cal in HD?

petey1287

01-24-08, 01:11 AM

any new channels comin up for So cal in HD?
I emailed TWC about it yesterday and heres their response:

Thank you for your e-mail. We see that you are interested in know when
Time Warner Cable will be add more high definition channels.
Unfortunately we will not be able to tell you at this time but we would
like you to know that we are working hard along side our third party
network companies to help bring more high definition service at low
rate.

CaCHooKa Man

01-24-08, 06:09 PM

hmm.. i seem to have lost all my HD channels that i was getting with the clear QAM tuner. it was working fine last night. now the only digital channel im getting is discovery health. could this problem have happened because of the rain? i have an hd tuner on my pc and i can get OTA HD channels just fine.

joe221

01-24-08, 06:58 PM

CaCHooKa Man

01-25-08, 05:31 AM

ugh.. still not digital channels or HD. im in the eagle rock coverage area of time warner la if that makes any difference.

Blasst

01-25-08, 05:24 PM

I emailed TWC about it yesterday and heres their response:

Thank you for your e-mail. We see that you are interested in know when
Time Warner Cable will be add more high definition channels.
Unfortunately we will not be able to tell you at this time but we would
like you to know that we are working hard along side our third party
network companies to help bring more high definition service at low
rate.

They need to stop the overcompression of the current HD channels, before they start adding new ones IMHO.

llabine1

01-25-08, 06:14 PM

ugh.. still not digital channels or HD. im in the eagle rock coverage area of time warner la if that makes any difference.

The only loss I have is 409...I turned it on at 8:30am and nothing a black screen....it came on at 10am and has been on till now (3pm)....this is a constant problem that has yet to be resolved...as for the QAM....at one time channels were all over the place....then for a brief time the listings were smart cbs 2 was 2 and 2-1...nbc 4 and 4-1...and so on...then for some unexplicable reason that all changed last week.....now starting with kcal there is no longer 9 and 9-1 now 9 is 116-6....11 is 104-84....7 is 104-85....try surfing every channel and see if you can find your QAM channels hiding...they may be there just in disguise...

nomadpass

01-27-08, 12:20 PM

boom boom

llabine1

01-27-08, 02:39 PM

boom boom

?????

joe221

01-27-08, 10:20 PM

Is that the sound of, finding out FiOS is available in more areas of Santa Monica?? :confused:

AnthemAVM

01-27-08, 10:51 PM

Is that the sound of, finding out FiOS is available in more areas of Santa Monica?? :confused:
I think it would be more a THANK YOU LORD!

RudyG

01-28-08, 01:10 AM

Is that the sound of, finding out FiOS is available in more areas of Santa Monica?? :confused:
I've been seeing mysterious road diggings up around Santa Monica but the trucks did not have a verizon logo on them necessarily. For example a couple of months ago they were digging up over by the Second street, from Santa Monica to maybe Colorado. Last month I saw a trench dug up over on Centinella south of Olympic. :confused:
Hard to say what's going on as Verizon is a secretive about their plans as TWC, and here we are bashing TWC all the time. The thing is. Even if Verizon service becomes available tomorrow, they will still have about the same number of HD channels available as TWC. Would you switch from D* to FiOS?
Of course, even if they have the approval to lay fiber, it will still take at least a couple of years to actually do it and then make the service available. In a couple of years we may start seeing SDV from TWC. Who knows.
I miss eriv's posts. He hasn't posted in a while. I wish he would clue us in, as we are hopelessly lost on what's happening as far as TWC.

Rudy

P.S. Also all the digging up I have seen was in Santa Monica. You and I are in West L.A. Different city that requires a completely different and separate permit. And probably has a completely different timeline from Santa Monica. Who knows?!

CaCHooKa Man

01-28-08, 07:08 PM

all of a sudden my HD channels are working again. i guess it was the rain that made them go away.

joe221

01-28-08, 11:29 PM

I've been seeing mysterious road diggings up around Santa Monica but the trucks did not have a verizon logo on them necessarily. For example a couple of months ago they were digging up over by the Second street, from Santa Monica to maybe Colorado. Last month I saw a trench dug up over on Centinella south of Olympic. :confused:
Hard to say what's going on as Verizon is a secretive about their plans as TWC, and here we are bashing TWC all the time. The thing is. Even if Verizon service becomes available tomorrow, they will still have about the same number of HD channels available as TWC. Would you switch from D* to FiOS?
Of course, even if they have the approval to lay fiber, it will still take at least a couple of years to actually do it and then make the service available. In a couple of years we may start seeing SDV from TWC. Who knows.
I miss eriv's posts. He hasn't posted in a while. I wish he would clue us in, as we are hopelessly lost on what's happening as far as TWC.

Rudy

P.S. Also all the digging up I have seen was in Santa Monica. You and I are in West L.A. Different city that requires a completely different and separate permit. And probably has a completely different timeline from Santa Monica. Who knows?!

I'm into D* for the long term. But Internet at 15 down and 2 up would be NICE! BTW my friend in SM who couldn't get FiOS was talking to me when I told him, I heard it was getting into SM. He checked his number and got the green light! He's near Penmar. So check the website and see if you're golden!
It wasn't that long ago that he checked and got the not yet answer.

joe221

01-28-08, 11:30 PM

I think it would be more a THANK YOU LORD!

As I said above I'd sure like the Internet part. :D:cool:

petey1287

01-29-08, 10:26 PM

They need to stop the overcompression of the current HD channels, before they start adding new ones IMHO.
I agree. Watching MusicHD is horrible to watch :(

RudyG

01-30-08, 12:57 PM

I'm into D* for the long term. But Internet at 15 down and 2 up would be NICE! BTW my friend in SM who couldn't get FiOS was talking to me when I told him, I heard it was getting into SM. He checked his number and got the green light! He's near Penmar. So check the website and see if you're golden!
It wasn't that long ago that he checked and got the not yet answer.
Yeah clearly SM will have it before us in WLA. I tried the online check and it said no. At this point I don't even know if they have an agreement to offer this service in WLA. When I have a free hour, :rolleyes: I'll have to call Verizon FiOS and see if I can get an answer.

Rudy

valleytvguy

01-30-08, 06:33 PM

They need to stop the overcompression of the current HD channels, before they start adding new ones IMHO.

I've compared my over-the-air HD broadcasts with TWC and I see no difference. ESPN does not seem compressed, they have the best picture. Most of my musicHD shows look pretty good, so I can't complain. Shows with poor quality seem more of a problem with the source than the carrier (FSN for example). OF course, IMHO.

nomadpass

01-30-08, 08:57 PM

Where are you guys getting MusicHD ????????

Alex in Santa Monica

kmattoo

01-31-08, 12:28 AM

I'm in a former Adelphia area (Sherman Oaks) and now finally got HD programming On Demand. Currently it's Sundance and HBO's In Treatment.

Of course I can't watch any of the shows, as the feed is totally stop/start without any sound.

TWC impressing as always.

danki6x

01-31-08, 05:43 PM

Where are you guys getting MusicHD ????????

Alex in Santa Monica

Ch 414. /Dan

msp121

02-01-08, 05:49 PM

Anyone w/ Time Warner Cable and a digital TV w/ a QAM tuner, here's a list of the local HD channels I was able to pick up w/o using a cable box:

CW-HD (62.3),
CBS-HD (93.501)
NBC-HD (93.502),
ABC-HD (94.504)
FOX-HD (94.505)
KCET-HD (PBS) (94.506)
KCOE-HD (PBS) 96.405
FSN-HD (100.507)
a TWC pay-per-view channel (101.510)
KCAL-HD (104.525)

the digital music channels start at 105.901

nomadpass

02-02-08, 02:36 AM

i want USA HD for Monk and Psych !

LeGrandOrange

02-02-08, 02:41 AM

Hey all!

Just popping in with a quick Q about audio/video sync. Is anyone else having problems? A lot of people in the LCD forum bought the Sceptre 42" on sale at Costco and have been having problems; some claim it's the quality of the feed, others say it's the actual set. Any comments?

Thanks in advance,
Bob

nomadpass

02-02-08, 12:13 PM

LeGrandOrange

02-02-08, 09:33 PM

Well, I haven't made a strict accounting, but the repeat of House on Fox last night was abysmal.

nomadpass

02-03-08, 01:37 AM

Mojo has been out of sync for the last week

PowerLlama

02-03-08, 07:38 PM

I've hooked my cable up directly to my tv for the superbowl, and it's all super artifacty. Is that because TWC sucks or is something up with my setup?

nomadpass

02-04-08, 06:38 PM

the superbowl looked amazing for me hdmi.

Hey TWC! Get MOJO audio sync fixed! I want to watch Pressure Cook!!

xrtfan

02-07-08, 07:24 AM

TW to expand HD line up in near future and have 200 HD movies on demand by years end. http://www.tvpredictions.com/twhd020708.htm

joe221

02-07-08, 12:12 PM

Is anyone using TWC and the QAM tuner in their TV and NOT getting results like 120-805? Are they starting to convert to numbers like 2-1 or 4-2 for the digital channels in QAM? :confused:

RudyG

02-07-08, 11:13 PM

Is anyone using TWC and the QAM tuner in their TV and NOT getting results like 120-805? Are they starting to convert to numbers like 2-1 or 4-2 for the digital channels in QAM? :confused:
Not on my TV. It is the same as it has ever been, at least as of earlier today when I did a channel scan.

Rudy

jgeorges

02-08-08, 03:42 AM

Does anyone know why MSNBC has a better picture than either CNN or Headline News? CNN is washed out and less crisp. Fox News is somewhat better, but not as good as MSNBC.

Too Many Secrets

02-08-08, 05:29 PM

Mad Mac

02-08-08, 08:13 PM

Is anyone using TWC and the QAM tuner in their TV and NOT getting results like 120-805? Are they starting to convert to numbers like 2-1 or 4-2 for the digital channels in QAM? :confused:

Been that way here for several weeks now for some channels...5 & 9 haven't "converted" yet.

joe221

02-08-08, 10:18 PM

Been that way here for several weeks now for some channels...5 & 9 haven't "converted" yet.

Is what you're saying is most of the HD channels are now 2-1 or like that not 125-343? Just 5 and 9 remain old school long numbers? Also where are you?

Adelmoxi

02-09-08, 01:03 AM

Looking for a STB or DVR with firewire enabled. I've searched this thread and see that the Motorola 3416 has been met with success for firewire. I have a Moxi currently and it looks like the firewire is disabled. I'm in 90022.

Any information is appreciated. TIA

Most Mso's (cable companies) have their USB ports and firewire ports disabled. The only Cable Company coming close to doing that is Charter, and maybe some regional cable companies.(thats ONLY with the legacy MOXI boxses (BMC 9022/9012. If You are looks for hard drive expansion possibility try a Cable Card DVR (i.e. latest generation Tivo's).

Mad Mac

02-09-08, 01:40 PM

Is what you're saying is most of the HD channels are now 2-1 or like that not 125-343? Just 5 and 9 remain old school long numbers? Also where are you?

I'm in Moorpark (just west of Simi Valley). I'll gather some info and post back later.

Mad Mac

02-09-08, 03:59 PM

Here goes.....

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/ChannelListJVC.jpg

Channel List on the JVC TV showing most of the networks

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/KCAL9HDJVC.jpg

KCAL9 HD on the JVC TV (Channel 104-1)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/KTLAHDJVC.jpg

KTLA HD on the JVC TV (Channel 119-2)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/KOCEHDJVC.jpg

KOCE HD on the JVC TV (Channel 120-2)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/CHANNELLISTLG.jpg

Channel list on the LG DVD recorder showing most of the networks

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/KCAL9HDLG.jpg

KCAL 9 HD on the LG (Channel 104-525)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/MadMac1886/HDTV/KOCEHDLG.jpg

KOCE HD on the LG (Channel 120-405)

joe221

02-09-08, 05:27 PM

Wow Mad Mac! Hopefully we here in West LA will get a remapping to! Thanks!

CaCHooKa Man

02-10-08, 09:04 AM

my fsn hd seems to be out for some reason. im not even getting the color test bars anymore. hopefully itll come back by the next lakers home game. its ok since that wont be until a week and a half from now.

nomadpass

02-11-08, 12:26 AM

this forum is for TWA - NOT OTA !!!!!!!!!!!

joe221

02-11-08, 01:40 AM

this forum is for TWA - NOT OTA !!!!!!!!!!!

That airline has long since gone away. What are you talking about? :eek::rolleyes:

Too Many Secrets

02-11-08, 03:07 PM

Most Mso's (cable companies) have their USB ports and firewire ports disabled. The only Cable Company coming close to doing that is Charter, and maybe some regional cable companies.(thats ONLY with the legacy MOXI boxses (BMC 9022/9012. If You are looks for hard drive expansion possibility try a Cable Card DVR (i.e. latest generation Tivo's).

FCC requires a firewire enabled box be supplied upon request. Here (http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Orders/1998/fcc98116.pdf) I'm just looking for my options.

danki6x

02-11-08, 04:06 PM

this forum is for TWA - NOT OTA !!!!!!!!!!!
He was showing OTC not OTA (i.e., over the cable). That is the mapping on a digital tuner TV without the converter box. Dan

Mad Mac

02-11-08, 06:32 PM

He was showing OTC not OTA (i.e., over the cable). That is the mapping on a digital tuner TV without the converter box. Dan

Correct Dan, those shots are from the internal QAM tuners on my TV and DVD recorder. Point being that TWC are now somehow making a lot of the broadcast channels match the OTA numbers, which is what Joe asked about.

bruce73

02-11-08, 08:55 PM

joe221

02-11-08, 09:35 PM

Correct Dan, those shots are from the internal QAM tuners on my TV and DVD recorder. Point being that TWC are now somehow making a lot of the broadcast channels match the OTA numbers, which is what Joe asked about.

Exactly and thank you. That means there is hope for me yet. As I believe I said earlier, Harmony remotes can only store and send 6 digits for a "Favorite" TWC using the type of tuning it does force my Samsung and Mitsubishi to get 7 digit channels. Interestingly my HP (Sharp) doesn't. :confused:

petey1287

02-13-08, 05:24 AM

Is it me or is MTV2 on the guide three hours ahead? Been like this for a while.

byyoung

02-13-08, 11:17 PM

Adelmoxi

02-14-08, 12:00 AM

byyoung

02-14-08, 12:34 AM

you knbow, I came home today and my DCH 3416's remote was not responding to any commands (STB functions only) I ended up unpluging the surge protector I have my entertainment stuff pluged into and it awoke. When it awoke it took a good five minutes for the STB to change to the correct time (maybe they may having problems with the DAC server).

did it again (plug, unplug). didn't do jack. still stuck without dvr functions. waited a half hour. i also have the motorola 3416. twc sucks.

dalsik

02-14-08, 04:40 AM

What do people recommend if I switch out my Moxi box? I've heard that TWC has "new" cable box out but have not found any definitive info about it. I'm guessing their "new" cable boxes are the "old" 8300 and Motorolas.

I've been holding off on buying a TiVoHD because of the nightmare install issues I've read about the CableCards, plus the cost of the TiVo box + monthly TiVo fees + cost of 2 s-cards (or 1 m-card) vs. the cable company's monthly PVR fee. Plus, I know I'll lose "on-demand" abilities and switched video channels are not viewable on the TiVo.

I think the cable box I had in San Diego (Cox Cable) was an 8300. That's the SARA interface, correct? Does the Motorola offer the same craptastic interface?

One last question... I have an HDTV but do not think it has a built-in tuner. I'm not sure. It's a 2-3 year old 26" Olevia LCD. What would I need to do in order to get over the air HD channels?
- Dalsik

xrtfan

02-14-08, 09:07 AM

Cost $20 more a month, $15 of which is for leasing three boxes(when I had TW I only had the hdvr the other tvs just got the first 80 channels). Lots of HD content and select XM channels. DVR works well and has 50 hour hd capacity. HD picture quality was a shade better on TW, but they were too slow to add content and I wanted to see NHL games on Versus and the NHL network in HD. I have a year commitment, after that if TW has added more content as is planned, I probably will switch back.

GizmoDVD

02-16-08, 02:18 PM

byyoung

02-16-08, 03:24 PM

anyone? i'm located in santa monica. first espn wasn't working. then i called the twc hotline, reset my cable box per them (i.e. unplugged and plugged back in), and now my dvr service doesn't work. my box now is stuck on 12:00 all the time. no tv guide uploading. i can't record anything tonight (i'm losing out on AI). all they could say was "sorry" and we'll send out a technician. great...

after the 5 billionth time of me unplugging/plugging the dvr, the twc service guy finally came to save me. he went to my condo complex signal box. our 6 units were hooked up to the input by a splitter. the dude just cut my output cable and hooked it up to the input directly. and then chained the other 5 units along with another splitter.

well, it worked. my dvr service now works, and i get my missing channels back. his explanation was "now you have a stronger signal." does this make sense? why would my signal have changed all of a sudden after it worked well for 9 months? he mentioned something about the weather?

hopefully this doesn't mess with my other neighbors... fortunately, i don't think any of them do cable.

limacharliewhisk

02-18-08, 02:01 PM

anyone? i'm located in santa monica. first espn wasn't working. then i called the twc hotline, reset my cable box per them (i.e. unplugged and plugged back in), and now my dvr service doesn't work. my box now is stuck on 12:00 all the time. no tv guide uploading. i can't record anything tonight (i'm losing out on AI). all they could say was "sorry" and we'll send out a technician. great...
I think I had a similar problem here in Costa Mesa on the same evening that you had this problem. It happened when I was accessing the OnDemand stuff, which I hadn't looked at in a couple of months, and it locked up on me. I did the unplug/re-plug thing, and normally the TV Guide would start updating again within the hour. It didn't update at all for the next 24 hours, and I lost all channels 2 thru 125.

That's when I called TWC, and they did a reboot for me on their end. Everything came back, like OnDemand and the TV Guide stuff.

I thought it was just me, because my neighbor had everything working on his cable box.

Adelmoxi

02-18-08, 06:08 PM

the new, backlit remote.

Are the giving out backlit remotes or did you buy one?

slickshoes

02-18-08, 11:08 PM

I just got the new 3416 box from my local Time Warner store (in Simi Valley, I live in Moorpark). Looks and works great so far. Now I just need to re-program the 30 second skip hack back into the new, backlit remote.

The unit is much cleaner looking.

Are you in a former Adelphia area, and they are running the SARA software, or are you in a Passport area, and these are boxes they are handing out instead of the SA8300's??

RudyG

02-19-08, 02:13 AM

joe221

02-19-08, 12:08 PM

Adelmoxi

02-19-08, 01:30 PM

How much are you guys paying per month. Last month paid $91.97 is it just me or does this seem ridiculous:

Digital Cable(Broadcast Basic $11.25 Standard Cable and HDTV tier).....................$44.00

Verity Tier........................................................ .......................................$5.00

RR Standard.................................................... ........................................$44.95

DVR Rental...................................................... ................................................$8.95

DVR Service..................................................... .............................................. $4.95

Taxes of course verry:

Franchise Fee......................................................... ................................$3.11

Regulatory Fee......................................................... ............................. $.06

eddy_winds

02-19-08, 02:06 PM

RudyG

02-19-08, 03:07 PM

Could it be on one scan more PPV/VOD channels were active then the next time you scanned?
:confused:
No, definitely not. Here is what my XBR shows me as it scans.
1. It scans for analog channels. Those have not changed in a while and are at 76.
2. It scans for a total number of digital channels. Everything carried over the wire. This is the number that has gone from 452 to 424 within the last week.
3. Lastly it scans for the number of visible channels. This number often changes from somewhere around 160 to as high as 188 if NBA channels and NHL channels offer a free preview. Or when people order PPV/VOD.

Keep in mind that all cable channels are sent via QAM using MPEG2 compression. So any QAM tuner will be able to "see" them all, but only allow one to watch the ones that are unscrambled and appropriately flagged.

If you remember a few months back I reported seeing that the total number of digital channels increased by 2. And we had the Fox News Channel and some other channel show up shortly afterwards.

I want to believe that they are replacing the 480i channels with their analog counterparts to make room for their HD counterparts, which would make absolutely perfect sense. But am afraid to dream out loud like this. Something with this much common sense and ingenuity couldn't be done at a corporate level. So perhaps somewhere some poor engineer is sticking his neck out to do something great. Anyway, made me think of eriv.
At the end of the day these are just guesses, so before too long I may look quite foolish when it becomes clear why this was done.:)

Rudy

RudyG

02-19-08, 03:12 PM

yarrumc

02-19-08, 07:24 PM

byyoung

02-20-08, 03:12 AM

mikeyworm

02-20-08, 03:00 PM

For the last half hour I am getting the "This channel will be available shortly message" on every channel. Anyone else? I am in West Hollywood btw.

jonathank

02-20-08, 03:16 PM

I was getting that this morning, too. It came back online at approximately 12:05pm.

Anyone notice new channels or anything new? Do you need to reboot or unplug a box to get it to recognize new channels? I just moved here from the east coast (a much smaller city) and now have fewer HD channels. TWC really needs to step up to the plate. I miss my CNNHD. SciFi and Food Network in HD would be nice, too...

jonathank

02-20-08, 03:18 PM

By the way, the Motorola box they dropped off (dual tuner HD DVR) is a piece of junk. I'm getting constant menu freezes and general sluggishness, something I didn't have to put up with on my Scientific Atlanta 8300.

I went into the diagnostic mode and it said the signal to noise ratio was just "fair." Could this cause menu freezes or unresponsiveness to using DVR functions like pause? I didn't think so, but this is the place to ask.

slickshoes

02-20-08, 05:01 PM

Jonathank:

Are you in a former Adelphia area, and they are running the SARA software, or are you in a Passport area, and these are boxes they are handing out instead of the SA8300's??

Mad Mac

02-20-08, 08:44 PM

I am thinking about dropping a receiver off my plan. I am wondering if I could still get basic cable or any channels at all, by keeping my cable modem service with them? I am planning to go to satellite but don't want to run new cable to my 2nd TV that I hardly use, but would like to still be able to catch the locals and maybe some common cable channels on my second TV without paying for a package and receiver.

I'm seriously considering doing the same as you. If you go to internet only, they should come out and put a trap on your line to only let those frequencies through. They do offer a "Broadcast Basic" tier which runs around $15, it's essentially anything you could get with an antenna, all the channels come in both analog and digital and include HD in clear QAM (if they carry the HD feed of that broadcast channel). "Basic Cable" is $42, gives you everything analog.

See

http://www.timewarnerla.com/pricingGuides/PDFs08/0120B-PL-0208.pdf

and

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx?CLUID=932&Zip=93021&Image1.x=38&Image1.y=5&Image1=submit

(check/uncheck the boxes as appropriate)

jonathank

02-20-08, 09:07 PM

Jonathank:

Are you in a former Adelphia area, and they are running the SARA software, or are you in a Passport area, and these are boxes they are handing out instead of the SA8300's??

Slickshoes: I'm near the corner of La Brea and Santa Monica Blvd. I'm not sure if this used to be Adelphia or not.

As for the SA8300, I asked the installer about it when I initiated service, but he said "that's what they have." I would have been happy to have another SA8300. This Motorola box is junk. It doesn't seem to play nice with my receiver (I have audio problems on occasion).

I'm fairly sure this is *not* passport software. That's what I had on my old SA box. I guess it's the other?

Are you telling me they have the Scientific Atlanta 8300 available? I was going to get another box delivered for another room... if they have the 8300, I'll want to ask for it. I really wanted DirecTV, but I don't have a view of the Southern sky.

Mad Mac

02-20-08, 11:59 PM

If you're in a former Adelphia area, it'll be Motorola. I don't believe Adelphia used SA. Oh, and the "menu freezes" you mentioned...welcome to the Motorola DVRs. That's normal for them.

RudyG

02-21-08, 06:37 AM

Slickshoes: I'm near the corner of La Brea and Santa Monica Blvd. I'm not sure if this used to be Adelphia or not.

As for the SA8300, I asked the installer about it when I initiated service, but he said "that's what they have." I would have been happy to have another SA8300. This Motorola box is junk. It doesn't seem to play nice with my receiver (I have audio problems on occasion).

I'm fairly sure this is *not* passport software. That's what I had on my old SA box. I guess it's the other?

Are you telling me they have the Scientific Atlanta 8300 available? I was going to get another box delivered for another room... if they have the 8300, I'll want to ask for it. I really wanted DirecTV, but I don't have a view of the Southern sky.
Santa Monica and La Brea is definitely former Adelphia area.

Rudy

RudyG

02-21-08, 06:40 AM

jonathank

02-21-08, 04:11 PM

danki6x

02-21-08, 04:36 PM

Having just moved here, I'm not familiar with TWC's practice of adding channels. Have customers received notice (or has this board leaked) channels before they were added, or did they just pop up one day?

Since TWC has FIOS competing against it in some parts of Los Angeles, I'd imagine we're in for some channel and internet bandwidth upgrades.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html

Under "Programming" on the TWC website then Click HERE for Alerts.

Usually a few weeks notice. /Dan

jonathank

02-21-08, 04:50 PM

Great to know. Thanks, Dan. :)

Mad Mac

02-21-08, 05:02 PM

Last week the total number of digital channels TWC was carrying over their wires was 452. I did a channel scan on the weekend and saw that number drop to 432. Yup 20 channels axed. Doing a rescan today shows 8 more digital channels gone, for a total of 424. Something is up, however, the Programming Alerts page here (http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html) is of no assistance.
Could this really be caused by music channel reshuffling. Or are our dreams about to come true and they are cutting useless 480i channels to make room for HD channels. Hey, stop laughing. It's a valid dream. :)
Boy, how great would it be if 480i channels would get replaced by their HD equivalents.

Rudy

Looking at the "Programming Alerts" page you mentioned, most of what it shows is moving a "broadcast" channel to below 37 and a "cable" channel to above 36. What I believe will happen somewhere down the road is that they will drop "Basic Cable" (analog channels from 37 - 99). This would free up a lot of bandwidth, and their argument will be along the lines of "the vast majority of subscribers who currently receive these channels already do so via a digital converter" or words to that effect, possibly offering a reduced rate box rental for a limited time and/or free installation for those who would want/need them as a PR exercise. They will still continue to offer "Broadcast Basic" - I believe this is an FCC requirement?

danki6x

02-21-08, 05:15 PM

Looking at the "Programming Alerts" page you mentioned, most of what it shows is moving a "broadcast" channel to below 37 and a "cable" channel to above 36. What I believe will happen somewhere down the road is that they will drop "Basic Cable" (analog channels from 37 - 99). This would free up a lot of bandwidth, and their argument will be along the lines of "the vast majority of subscribers who currently receive these channels do so via a digital converter" or words to that effect, possibly offering a reduced rate box rental and/or free installation for those who would want/need them as a PR exercise. They will still continue to offer "Broadcast Basic" - I believe this is an FCC requirement?
It was not too long ago that "Digital Basic" was cheaper than "Basic Cable" ($39 vs $44). I figured then it was to wean people off Basic onto digital. I figured it a no-brainer decision for me at the time. Now I want the HD content, so lets clean up the channels :) I still think it is unfair that the FCC requires cable to supply analog channels for old TVs after the changeover, but does not require other sources. This seems like a burden on the cable companies. It should be up to them on whether it is a business decision to do. Me and my supply and demand attitude.... Dan

jonathank

02-21-08, 05:25 PM

I just read somewhere that TWC in NYC is going all digital. They've recently sent letters out to their remaining analog customers that their service is ending.

Forgive my ignorance, but does this mean they're implementing SDV? Could TWC here in LA be preparing to do the same thing? From what I understand, that would clear up a lot of bandwidth for new HDs.

Mad Mac

02-21-08, 08:48 PM

It was not too long ago that "Digital Basic" was cheaper than "Basic Cable" ($39 vs $44). I figured then it was to wean people off Basic onto digital. I figured it a no-brainer decision for me at the time. Now I want the HD content, so lets clean up the channels :) I still think it is unfair that the FCC requires cable to supply analog channels for old TVs after the changeover, but does not require other sources. This seems like a burden on the cable companies. It should be up to them on whether it is a business decision to do. Me and my supply and demand attitude.... Dan

Taking your points in order....

1) I don't remember "Digital Basic" being cheaper than "Basic Cable" , but it would actually be more expensive if you take box/remote rental into account.

2) Agreed in principle on the FCC thing, this should be a commercial decision. However, if I'm making that decision, I weigh the benefit of more available HD channels to compete with satellite against consumer backlash/bad publicity. See my posting above regarding what I believe is behind TW's channel realignments in some markets. As a businessman, I see that as a reasonable compromise. A few years down the road, I then completely close down analog on the basis that the plant is becoming increasingly expensive to maintain, spare parts in short supply etc.

GizmoDVD

02-23-08, 01:38 AM

Are the giving out backlit remotes or did you buy one?

Got it with my new box.

Are you in a former Adelphia area, and they are running the SARA software, or are you in a Passport area, and these are boxes they are handing out instead of the SA8300's??

Correct. Former Adelphia of... 1.5 years ago maybe? I wanted in with my old box and walked out with the new one. Its very nice.

jonathank

02-23-08, 03:01 AM

Correct. Former Adelphia of... 1.5 years ago maybe? I wanted in with my old box and walked out with the new one. Its very nice.

Can you clarify, Gizmo? What exact box do you have now?

GizmoDVD

02-23-08, 09:03 PM

Can you clarify, Gizmo? What exact box do you have now?

3416 Dual Tuner HD Box.

hockeyamd

02-23-08, 10:58 PM

http://www.timewarnerla.com/pricingGuides/
I went to check to see how much I could save if I dropped anything and found this out. I dropped my internet and switch to dsl with the same download speed but with better upload speed and will save 15$ a month. I guess I will see what Uverse is offering tomorrow. They are throwing my neighborhood a block party tomorrow.

ben8jam

02-24-08, 12:58 PM

Adelmoxi

02-24-08, 03:22 PM

Now that the TW's idea porting their Navigator on to Motorola boxes is scraped, I hope they negociate with Digeo to bring MOXI back to SoCal/

mythofpower

02-25-08, 03:25 AM

hi there - i've been trying to search this for a while and am confused....

i recently purchased a new bravia tv - i plugged it into our cable line (via coax) and amazingly all the channels were there (time warner area) - i did a digital channel scan and it found 100 channels - duplicates of the standard cable channels - but they are weird ones like 103.661 and such...

after searching i found that i get all the local HD channels, (and for a few days had ESPNHD and MOJOHD - but those two disappeared..) - however, it's confusing since they are all over the place and odd numbered

can anyone tell me what it is i'm looking at? and how to figure out what channels are what? does anyone have like a channel guide that says what odd channel (99.15) equates to? i'm guessing that the lower channels (2-90) and the analog signal, and the weird ones (99.441, etc) are the digital signal? i can't really tell much difference between the two, think the analog actually looks better...

does this make any sense? thanks for any help..

It sounds like you have basic analog (or extended basic) cable. The high numbers that you got are QAM channels. They are just digitial version of the same analog channels that you got with extended basic. These are considered "free" digital channels that TWC did not bother to block, along with the local HD channels that are always there.There is no "official guide" for QAM channels (TWC would not provide it if you'd ask), and the mapping tend to be different from one area to another. The only way is, after you've scanned, try surfing one channel to the next and make a list, and perhaps store them to your remote favorite channels. Or ask others in this forum if anyone happens to be the same area as yours and they might have already figured out the mapping.

Doctor

02-26-08, 01:04 AM

edwarto

02-26-08, 11:02 AM

e_e_emarpea

02-26-08, 12:12 PM

joe221

02-26-08, 12:25 PM

does anyone have the newer motorola box in the old adelphia areas?

i've called and asked about new boxes because i hate the motorola 3416 III box. they said they have a new box but dont recommend it. wtf?! why did u put a box in service you dont recommened.

anyways i dont know the model # but i know its a motorola. i'd love to hear a review about it. possibly someone who switched from the 3416 III

I had the "new" Moto box before I went D*. It was fine, exactly like the previouse one was, just all silvery and black.

e_e_emarpea

02-26-08, 12:52 PM

forgive my ignorance (a google search didnt yield anything).

what is D* ?

eddy_winds

02-26-08, 01:22 PM

forgive my ignorance (a google search didnt yield anything).

what is D* ?

D*= DirecTV

RudyG

02-26-08, 01:31 PM

OK I did another scan tonight, that is Wednesday night and the total went from 424 to 419. So another 5 digital channels have been dropped. Plus people reporting their STBs are getting out of synch.
Something is definitely up. I wonder what it is.

Rudy
OK I thought I'd post the last installment of this, at least for now. :) Last week the total number of digital channels bottomed out at 417 and has been rising back up, about 1 channel at a time. Yesterday we were at 419.

Rudy

e_e_emarpea

02-26-08, 02:23 PM

thx eddy. i wasnt sure if it was dish or directv.

joe221

02-26-08, 02:44 PM

thx eddy. i wasnt sure if it was dish or directv.

Yeah, I assume... also E* is Dish (EchoStar)

danki6x

02-26-08, 05:39 PM

I just got a letter from Time warner telling me that my area is going to be upgraded to fibre optics. It said there would be some outages but they said they would try to do them at 1 am and they could last for a few minutes or a few hours?

whats does this mean ? I know fountain Valley has a few areas of Fios are they competing?
Interesting and confusing. Huntington Beach and Orange went fiber (most part, not to the house) 7-8 years ago. I thought parts of Garden Grove were last about 3 or so years ago. I thought Cable Internet would start in areas once they went fiber (been years now). Keep us posted if you get any more info. Dan

nomadpass

02-27-08, 07:10 PM

marker

Run4two

03-01-08, 01:23 PM

does anyone have the newer motorola box in the old adelphia areas?

i've called and asked about new boxes because i hate the motorola 3416 III box. they said they have a new box but dont recommend it. wtf?! why did u put a box in service you dont recommened.

anyways i dont know the model # but i know its a motorola. i'd love to hear a review about it. possibly someone who switched from the 3416 III

I've had 4 6416 IIIs for a little over a year now and have had only 1 problem that I solved myself by reformatting. I've used the firewire output on all 4 to archive stuff on my computer. All in all, I'm happy with the box. I'm just not happy with TWC not offering more HD channels in my area. :(

AWD DRIFT

03-02-08, 07:32 PM

mythofpower

03-02-08, 08:14 PM

Anybody has problem with Mojo HD? I got no sound.

Adelmoxi

03-03-08, 12:43 AM

DSperber

03-03-08, 02:54 AM

TO ALL MOTOROLA STB HOLDERS:I have read (specifcaally on DSL reports) that TWC is starting to use a system overlay (meaning we may use Scientific Atlanta boxes). How many of you will be willing to try one?Not me, for one.

I'm quite satisfied with the 3416, and the way it works (elegant or not, Tivo or not, wishlist for features or not). I've been a Moto user ever since Nov 2004 when I got one of the first 6412-II DVRs in the LA area, and have been used to the Moto interface (and its "quirks") for years. No complaints that cannot be circumvented, worked around, or simply "lived with".

But the real reason I'd never leave for SA boxes is that I MUST have a working firewire port for archiving to D-VHS. The absence of such functionality is a complete deal-breaker for me when considering any other alternative hardware or content provider (including D* and E*) for HD. To the best of my knowledge, no SA DVR has a working firewire port.

kmattoo

03-04-08, 05:33 PM

I'm getting pretty close to moving to D*. They reduced their price on the HD DVR and have a better selection of HD, plus Sunday Ticket.

I'll probably keep the cable modem, but need to figure out if a diplexer would work through a splitter....

infinitespecter

03-07-08, 03:46 AM

Is anyone in SoCal getting any HD channels other than the locals, MHD, HDT, TBS, TNT, MoJo, Universal, HDNet, HDNet Movies, ESPN, ESPN2, FoxSports, HBO, Cinemax, Starz, Showtime?

I'm starting to get jealous of the offerings on satellite and want to know if there's any hope for more HD channels.

I spent a few days at my friend's house helping him setup his new home theater, and his new DirecTV DVR gets an amazing amount of HD channels. I really, really want CNN HD, Fox Business HD, and Discovery HD, and if it weren't for how awful the DirecTV box is (I use a TiVo Series 3), I would be leaving TWC for them.

Adelmoxi

03-07-08, 12:56 PM

lets all move into Cox territory and stop waiting for Time Warner's HD deployment.

jsessler

03-07-08, 10:52 PM

I've been speaking with Fred Stefany, Time Warner President of Orange, San
Bernardino, Riverside counties here in California. He let me know that they recently completed upgrades in Fontana/Ontario hub, and he anticipates they'll be adding about 20 more HD channels in the May time frame including Discovery, National Geographic,
Travel, Food, CNN, etc.

I specifically asked about SDV (I own TiVos), and he responded saying that the HD channels are not likely to be switched.

Sounds promising. Also, there is work going on in the city of Upland too, so they may also get the new HD in May.

digitaljok

03-08-08, 05:10 AM

Anyone have the channel mappings for the unencrypted local broadcast HD channels? I'm in the Pasadena/San Marino area. I'm trying to identify all the unencrypted channels found, but a lot of the local HD seems to be missing. They have to broadcast these in the clear so they should be there, right?

Mad Mac

03-08-08, 02:08 PM

Adelmoxi

03-08-08, 02:55 PM

plateofshrimp

03-08-08, 09:48 PM

May? 2008?

jsessler

03-08-08, 11:02 PM

May? 2008?

Yes.

jgmiller

03-10-08, 12:16 AM

I've really resisted going with DTV because frankly I can't stand their business practices and that horrible 2 year contract they make you sign. I classify them in the same league as wireless carriers. However I just checked and for the same equipment quantities I currently have I'd save about $50 a month with them over TWC. Of course that's offset by the upfront equipment costs but after about 10 months I'd be at a break even point. They're making it very tempting to leave and they obviously have a lot more HD programming.

If I were to keep just Road Runner would TWC make me also have basic cable or could I just have the HSI?

CaCHooKa Man

03-10-08, 03:56 AM

i dont seem to get my13 with my clear QAM tuner. every other local HD channel is fine though. maybe when i upgrade my 32" vizio to a 32" sharp aquos in a week ill get the channel.

jonathank

03-10-08, 08:04 AM

You can get Roadrunner without ordering cable TV service. For them to do otherwise would probably be illegal tying under the antitrust laws.

Adelmoxi

03-10-08, 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=jgmiller;13338559 If I were to keep just Road Runner would TWC make me also have basic cable or could I just have the HSI?[/QUOTE]

If you were just to get Roadrunner alone your monthly payment will go up (its crazy how you MUST bundle). My advice is, If you like Road Runner keep basic cable.

Mad Mac

03-10-08, 02:13 PM

If you were just to get Roadrunner alone your monthly payment will go up (its crazy how you MUST bundle). My advice is, If you like Road Runner keep basic cable.

AFAIK, TW don't have an internet-only "penalty" (at least, it's not on their published list of "a la carte" prices). I'm going round there today to hand in my equipment (I'm going internet-only plus Broadcast - went over to DirecTV), I'll see what the situation is.

Mad Mac

03-10-08, 02:14 PM

i dont seem to get my13 with my clear QAM tuner. every other local HD channel is fine though. maybe when i upgrade my 32" vizio to a 32" sharp aquos in a week ill get the channel.

TW doesn't carry my13 HD.

mythofpower

03-10-08, 06:45 PM

TW doesn't carry my13 HD.

Mad Mac,

Do you mean not at all in any area? I did not get My13 in HD, so I assumed it was just my area. Thanks in advance for confirming it (so I won't waste time searching in the future).

Mad Mac

03-10-08, 07:59 PM

Mad Mac,

Do you mean not at all in any area? I did not get My13 in HD, so I assumed it was just my area. Thanks in advance for confirming it (so I won't waste time searching in the future).

To my knowledge, they don't carry it anywhere in this area. When/if they add it, I'd presume they would do it on a region-wide basis like they did with 5, 9 and KOCE in the recent past.

jvadnais

03-11-08, 09:35 PM

RudyG

03-11-08, 11:08 PM

I sort of feel like after reading all of this and comparing my current TWC offering to DirecTV, it might be time for me to switch. I have made a bit of a pro/con list. I'm hoping you all might be able to tell me if I'm missing anything that might make me regret switching.

PROs of switching to D*:
- cheaper overall cost
- MANY more HD channels
- online DVR programing!
- better STB interface

CONs of switching to D*:
- have to get a phone line
- satellite on rooftop (already approved with landlord)
- yearly contract
- no more bundled service (I think my internet stays the same with TWC)

To me, the pros are outweighing the cons, especially in the land of HD. I can't stand how slowly TWC is rolling out HD... even D*'s website it nicer.

Is there something I'm missing? I might get the phone line and bite the bullet later this week.

Thanks,

Jordan
Hey Jordan welcome to the forum. Sounds like you have pros and cons pretty well covered. One thing I seem to remember is that both D* and E* used to offer a small ($5 a month) discount for bundling them with a DSL service. To compete with cable's bundle pricing.
So when you call you may want to ask about that, and research DSL pricing in your area.

Good Luck.
Rudy

Mad Mac

03-12-08, 12:21 AM

I sort of feel like after reading all of this and comparing my current TWC offering to DirecTV, it might be time for me to switch. I have made a bit of a pro/con list. I'm hoping you all might be able to tell me if I'm missing anything that might make me regret switching.

PROs of switching to D*:
- cheaper overall cost
- MANY more HD channels
- online DVR programing!
- better STB interface

CONs of switching to D*:
- have to get a phone line
- satellite on rooftop (already approved with landlord)
- yearly contract
- no more bundled service (I think my internet stays the same with TWC)

To me, the pros are outweighing the cons, especially in the land of HD. I can't stand how slowly TWC is rolling out HD... even D*'s website it nicer.

Is there something I'm missing? I might get the phone line and bite the bullet later this week.

Thanks,

Jordan

I've just made the jump so let me try to answer your questions:

PROs of switching to D*:
- cheaper overall cost Correct - there is a AAA discount also available to new customers, but you have to call a special number for it.
- MANY more HD channels Definitely.
- online DVR programing! Haven't tried it yet, but seems to work well from what I read.
- better STB interface Very impressed so far. TW's interface was very slow/erratic.

CONs of switching to D*:
- have to get a phone line It's NOT a requirement. If you don't have one, you can't order PPVs via the handset.
- satellite on rooftop (already approved with landlord)
- yearly contract Initial is two years.
- no more bundled service (I think my internet stays the same with TWC) I kept my internet with TW, there is no penalty for "unbundling". I believe Comcast have a $15 surcharge for internet-only customers.

jvadnais

03-12-08, 11:06 AM

RudyG

03-12-08, 12:20 PM

Thank you Rudy and Mad Mac for the great feedback. I think I've made up my mind.

I will need to get a phone line because I really want the MLB Extra Innings package. I can't believe that they don't offer some sort of wifi option (like TiVo) in lieu of the phone line.

When you say that you'll need to order a phone line, does that mean you don't have one now? You rely on your cell phone exclusively? Just wanted to make sure.
I'm not sure about MLB Extra Innings, but I remember ordering ESPN GamePlan over the phone, so when you call D* maybe you can ask them about that.

Now my only concern is the headache of scheduling an appointment and getting my landlord to cooperate with getting them onto the roof to install the dish. Does anyone here know if they perform installs on Saturday or Sunday?

Thanks again,

Jordan
The installer will work with you, don't worry. When I had satellite service at my current apartment the installer had setup the dish on a tripod right on the patio in front of my apartment. So there wasn't even a need to climb onto the roof. Just something else to consider.

Rudy

RudyG

03-12-08, 12:35 PM

Not sure how many of you noticed this flyer that came in the mail last week so I thought I'd post it here. Effective as of April, which is next month the rates will go up. Go here (http://www.timewarnerla.com/pricingGuides/) to see what your new rate is going to be. The flyer had a nice breakdown of what was going up and by how much, which the PDFs above seem to be lacking, but there is enough info there to figure it out.

On the plus side this is straight from the alerts page:
Alerts (http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html)
From March 20 through March 23rd, 2008, you can enjoy a 4 day FREE Preview of every channel HBO and Cinemax has to offer! Watch HBO on digital channels 503-512. For HBO HD tune to channel 502. Watch Cinemax on digital channels 523-531. For Cinemax HD tune to channel 522. Plus, watch programs when you want and tune to channel 1 and select Premium for HBO or Cinemax On Demand. Some programs have adult content. To learn more about the FREE Preview or about blocking the free preview channels with the parental control feature on your digital box, call us at 1-888-TWCABLE.

Rudy

petey1287

03-12-08, 10:12 PM

Mad Mac

03-12-08, 11:45 PM

Mad Mac

03-12-08, 11:52 PM

Not sure how many of you noticed this flyer that came in the mail last week so I thought I'd post it here. Effective as of April, which is next month the rates will go up.

I spotted this about a month ago, although I haven't had any "official" notification as yet. This plus a better HD selection and a couple of great offers tipped me to D*.

danki6x

03-13-08, 06:45 PM

I see a $3 increase on the digital cable package [was $44.95, now $47.95] :(
And +$0.50 for rent of box+remote AND +$1 for an HD receiver (always has been same price as non-HD). Great! More $ for very little (no added HD recently or planned, no larger hard drive in DVRs). Time to get the poison pen out again after a couple years....
Dan

Mad Mac

03-13-08, 11:48 PM

A little more on the D* phone issue, summarised from their T&Cs with my comments in RED:

If they "detect" that a receiver is not regularly connected to a landline, they *may* investigate to determine that the receiver is located where you say it is (i.e. not in another region). Doubt if this would actually ever happen unless someone reported blacked-out games being shown or something like that.

PPVs - They may charge up to $1.50 for automated ordering over the phone or up to $5 via a live person. You can order online for free.

dylan24

03-14-08, 12:20 PM

A bit OT, but was anyone else having problems with internet access all day and night yesterday? It seems to be ok now this morning. I'm in Los Feliz; Eagle Rock head end.

danki6x

03-14-08, 04:45 PM

Taking your points in order....

1) I don't remember "Digital Basic" being cheaper than "Basic Cable" , but it would actually be more expensive if you take box/remote rental into account.

I see in the new pricing that Digital w/1 tier will be $47.95 while Basic Cable will be $54.00. I think they are going to pressure those that haven't to change. Hopefully will lead to more HD space soon in this area.
/Dan

SmartMuffin

03-15-08, 08:01 PM

AVMAN777

03-15-08, 08:42 PM

I've just made the jump so let me try to answer your questions:

PROs of switching to D*:
- cheaper overall cost Correct - there is a AAA discount also available to new customers, but you have to call a special number for it.
- MANY more HD channels Definitely.
- online DVR programing! Haven't tried it yet, but seems to work well from what I read.
- better STB interface Very impressed so far. TW's interface was very slow/erratic.

CONs of switching to D*:
- have to get a phone line It's NOT a requirement. If you don't have one, you can't order PPVs via the handset.
- satellite on rooftop (already approved with landlord)
- yearly contract Initial is two years.
- no more bundled service (I think my internet stays the same with TWC) I kept my internet with TW, there is no penalty for "unbundling". I believe Comcast have a $15 surcharge for internet-only customers.
If I am not mistaken, do you have Directv and TW Roadrunner Cable Internet at the same time?

I currently have Dishnetwork TV and AT&T DSL Internet service. My problem is I live in
an area where Upgrade to faster DSL is not available. I tried to get Roadrunner Internet
service, but was not possible.

According to Roadrunner installation guy, Dishnetwork is occupying cable to feed TV,and
Roadrunner or TW Cable uses same cableline to feed their cable and internet service.
Only other way to do it is by installing a new cableline from outside and possibly drill holes on the wall to bring it in.

I am satisfied with Dishnetwork,especially due to much better HD channel lineup than
TW. My question to Dishnetwork and Dirctv users: Is it possible to have Satellite TV
and Cable Internet from Roadrunner at the same time?

Mad Mac

03-15-08, 10:48 PM

If I am not mistaken, do you have Directv and TW Roadrunner Cable Internet at the same time?

I currently have Dishnetwork TV and AT&T DSL Internet service. My problem is I live in
an area where Upgrade to faster DSL is not available. I tried to get Roadrunner Internet
service, but was not possible.

According to Roadrunner installation guy, Dishnetwork is occupying cable to feed TV,and
Roadrunner or TW Cable uses same cableline to feed their cable and internet service.
Only other way to do it is by installing a new cableline from outside and possibly drill holes on the wall to bring it in.

I am satisfied with Dishnetwork,especially due to much better HD channel lineup than
TW. My question to Dishnetwork and Dirctv users: Is it possible to have Satellite TV
and Cable Internet from Roadrunner at the same time?

Certainly is, that's exactly what I (and at least one other regular poster on here) have right now. It sounds like when you had Dish installed, they used the existing cabling into your home. Without knowing your particular layout, I can't speculate further on why it's a problem for TW to get another line into your home. Are you in an apartment or condo?

AVMAN777

03-15-08, 11:04 PM

Certainly is, that's exactly what I (and at least one other regular poster on here) have right now. It sounds like when you had Dish installed, they used the existing cabling into your home. Without knowing your particular layout, I can't speculate further on why it's a problem for TW to get another line into your home. Are you in an apartment or condo?
I live in a townhouse. It wouldn't be a good idea to show cable at a visible area.(Along the side walls of a building etc.)

Since you have Satellite and Cable Internet. Do you know how it's wired? It seems like
some houses may have two separate cable line prewired for easier installation?

I really want faster internet and still keep my Dishnetwork. I really hope there is some
way to do it without major drilling or construction.

AVMAN777

03-15-08, 11:11 PM

Certainly is, that's exactly what I (and at least one other regular poster on here) have right now. It sounds like when you had Dish installed, they used the existing cabling into your home. Without knowing your particular layout, I can't speculate further on why it's a problem for TW to get another line into your home. Are you in an apartment or condo?
Mad Mac,

I think you are correct regarding Dishnetwork used existing cabling to feed TV. It seems
like TW wants to use the existing cabling for internet connection and have Dishnetwork
do a separate line for TV?

I wish there was an easier solution rather than having to have both Dishnetwork and
TW guys come out just to upgrade for internet connection. Also, I am not sure if Dishnetwork will do a new line installation without charging me.

Mad Mac

03-16-08, 12:39 AM

I live in a townhouse. It wouldn't be a good idea to show cable at a visible area.(Along the side walls of a building etc.)

Since you have Satellite and Cable Internet. Do you know how it's wired? It seems like
some houses may have two separate cable line prewired for easier installation?

I had cable coming in, then going to the attic and distributed to most of the house from there. When D* came, I got them to bring the cables from the dish in to where my main cable tv distribution point was. Simple matter of swapping some wires.

RudyG

03-16-08, 01:09 AM

Count me among the many TWC subscribers who are sick and tired of having one of the worst HD-lineups in the nation. Really looking at DirecTV... only thing that really puts me off is the long-term commitment. I'm active duty military and I'm lucky if I can stay anywhere for two years...
A couple of thoughts for your particular situation:
1. What do you think about Dish Network HD only tier for $29.99?
2. Have you called DirecTV and told them that you are active duty to see if there is a special provision or exception for folks like you? There really ought to be in MHO.

Rudy

SmartMuffin

03-16-08, 04:52 PM

As if I wasn't already irritated enough with TWC... now I'm having choppiness issues with many HD channels. Here's the thread in detail.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008280

Has anyone else been experiencing this?

Cover

03-17-08, 11:28 PM

Kebis

03-20-08, 11:08 PM

Today (3/20) thru Sunday is supposed to be a free preview of HBO and Cinemax on TWC (at least in my area of Orange County). The problem is, HBOHD is still blocked, while all the other channels are up, even CinemaxHD. I called TWC, and they offered to send a tech out to see if there was a problem with my cable box, which makes no sense since the problem is on their end.

Is anyone else having a problem with this?

petey1287

03-21-08, 06:17 AM

Same here Kebis, HBOHD is blocked. I dont pay for any premium channels though.

Adelmoxi

03-21-08, 04:27 PM

I am thinking about leaving TWC for Dish Network and Verizon (home phone & DSL: 768kbps.). Will I face any penalties getting out couple day before my billing cycle ends (27 of this month?

slickshoes

03-21-08, 04:28 PM

Nope, there are no contracts with Cable..

jgmiller

03-21-08, 11:56 PM

What HD channels there are on TW are real HD. They do not re encode the off the air signals as does D*. Do a little research on what the differences in quality are. If it is quantity you are looking for, D* is proably the way to go. If you want the best quality, then stick with cable.

Which is one reason why I haven't switched to D* yet. The quantity isn't all that important to me. After all I have hundreds of channels on cable and my guess is that even if all of them were HD I still wouldn't watch them. I'd rather have high quality on the ones I do watch. I also hate D*'s whole business model of locking in customers for years, that's just sleazy.

The one thing that has got me thinking about moving to D* is the price. With TWC latest increase they will now be about $60 a month more for the same equipment than D* would be. That's not an insignificant amount.

annonemoose

03-22-08, 04:45 PM

ptchristensen

03-22-08, 07:58 PM

Hi;
Is everyone else getting HD On Demand? I've been seeing the advertising non-stop for almost a year now and we don't get it. We are subscribed to everything, (except sports), and have Digital and get the 26 HD Chanels that are offered. Like HBO HD, SHO HD etc.....

But we were first told that November 19th, 2007 we'd have HD On Demand and then told to wait until March 19th 2008. Which didn't materialize.

We can't seem to get a straight answer out of Time Warner and no one seems to know. They've sent a tech out and we've reset our box almost daily. So is anyone out here getting HD On Demand movies?
Thanks,
Jo

Are you talking about channel 431 HDPPV or are you talking about the HD OnDemand Movies found under Channel 1, OnDemand, Movies, "HD Movies & Events"?

I don't really care about 431 since it only shows events priced from $50 and up. But on channel 1 there are lot's of HD OnDemand movies. prices at $4.99. The only complaint I have is that they cut letterbox movies down to 16:9.

annonemoose

03-22-08, 08:52 PM

.....snip......
I don't really care about 431 since it only shows events priced from $50 and up. But on channel 1 there are lot's of HD OnDemand movies. ....snip...........

Nope not 431 I don't care about that either. It's the on demand. I have NO, none, zero movies in HD on Demand and all Time Warner does it stall... First they try to troubleshoot then they come up with an oh you were an adelphia customer you don't have it yet. But I was NEVER an Adelphia Customer!
Thanks..... you told me what I wondered,
Jo

Doctor

03-23-08, 01:12 PM

I don't have any HD on Demand yet. However, it appears they are at least testing it out because a couple times I've seen HD material pop up only to disappear the next time I checked On Demand.

BMatt25

03-23-08, 10:42 PM

ive had hd on demand for quite a few months now, on channel 1100. in the huntington beach system. i have also seen it in garden grove, fountian valley, and westminster.

ptchristensen

03-23-08, 10:57 PM

I don't have any HD on Demand yet. However, it appears they are at least testing it out because a couple times I've seen HD material pop up only to disappear the next time I checked On Demand.

Do you have OnDemand on Channel 1?

BMatt25

03-23-08, 11:31 PM

yes, but i never use it. the box freezes up on ch 1 too much. i use the guide and just go to ch 1000 and scroll through there. found 1100 a few months ago

annonemoose

03-24-08, 12:03 AM

Hmmmm we don't get any channels over 999 in the Antelope Valley. I have Motorola DCT6416 III any possibility it could be the stb?
Thanks

CaCHooKa Man

03-24-08, 05:27 AM

Anybody has problem with Mojo HD? I got no sound.

i just did a channel search and my TV found mojo hd. i dont have sound either.

bgooch

03-24-08, 08:55 AM

TWC, Comcast cry foul on Verizon
By Paul Davidson, USA TODAY
The battle between phone and cable companies is getting uglier.

Three cable giants are accusing Verizon (VZ) of illegally using proprietary information it obtains as a wholesale telecom provider to retain customers who had planned to switch to the cable providers for their phone service.

Since last June, Verizon has deployed the tactic to hold on to "thousands" of subscribers in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, as well as parts of the Midwest, South, Texas and California, allege Comcast (CMCSA), Time Warner (TWX) and Bright House. In a recent Federal Communications Commission filing, the companies asked the agency to crack down on the practice.

Verizon says that it's doing nothing illegal and that its marketing is good for consumers.

Phone and cable companies are battling to serve customers with bundles of voice, TV and broadband services. Cable companies have signed up about 14 million phone customers, luring most with Voice over Internet Protocol services, research firm In-Stat says. Verizon lost 1.6 million phone lines in the second half of 2007. Meanwhile, Verizon has signed up about 1 million subscribers for its FiOS video service.

The dispute stems from Verizon's control of the phone network. A cable company that wrests a phone customer from Verizon must contact the telecom company to transfer the customer's phone number. Most customers want to keep their phone numbers when they switch carriers.

Such number transfers can take several days. During that period, Verizon has illegally used information about the transfer to entice subscribers to stay by offering service discounts and gift cards of $50 to $200, the cable companies say.

The companies cite a federal law that prohibits a phone carrier that gets "proprietary information" from another carrier in order to provide phone service from using it "for its own marketing efforts." That information "is confidential between companies," says Comcast's Sena Fitzmaurice.

The cable companies argue Verizon can make its pitch only if the customer calls to cancel service. Otherwise, it must wait until after the service is switched over.

But Verizon says constraints on the use of proprietary information were not meant to apply to phone-number transfers. In those cases, it says, the cable company is acting on the customer's behalf — that's how Verizon is notified to cancel the service. If it can't respond and try to retain the customer, cable would have an unfair advantage, Verizon says. Why? A cable customer who switches to Verizon for TV must call to cancel cable service, giving the cable company a chance to try to keep its customer.

Verizon's David Fish says the cable companies are trying to "block consumer choice."

The cable giants say Verizon has the unfair edge because they don't get a chance to outdo the carrier's pitch with a better offer until after a customer has nixed its new service.

Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2008-03-23-phone-cable-wars-Verizon_N.htm

danki6x

03-24-08, 12:53 PM

i just did a channel search and my TV found mojo hd. i dont have sound either.
Mojo is part of the additional cost HD tier. Dan

danki6x

03-24-08, 12:56 PM

While checking out HBO HD over the free weekend I found KDOC HD on 456 (they are 56 on regular OTA TV and 19 on TWC in my area). Terrible signal though, locks up continually, impossible to watch, but never saw it there before. /Dan

edwarto

03-24-08, 08:38 PM

I think i might be leaving Time warner.. today i got in the mail the new rate increase and it blows me away that they are charging more for HD decoders without even having more programing I dont have the email with me but its going to cost me about $15 a month more with all the packages i have its a $5 a month increase just with my highspeed. I belive its almost $2 a box price hike...

they are pushing me to Dish or Direct or even fios when it comes

anyone else get the price hikes?

petey1287

03-24-08, 08:42 PM

Hi;
Is everyone else getting HD On Demand? I've been seeing the advertising non-stop for almost a year now and we don't get it. We are subscribed to everything, (except sports), and have Digital and get the 26 HD Chanels that are offered. Like HBO HD, SHO HD etc.....

But we were first told that November 19th, 2007 we'd have HD On Demand and then told to wait until March 19th 2008. Which didn't materialize.

We can't seem to get a straight answer out of Time Warner and no one seems to know. They've sent a tech out and we've reset our box almost daily. So is anyone out here getting HD On Demand movies?
Thanks,
Jo
I've been getting HD Movies OnDemand for quite a while. I think its $4.99 per movie. And I'll say about 30 or more HD movies available. Also theres free HD content OnDemand like "HD Showcase" featuring Music Choice HD and Sundance Channel HD.