anyone else get the price hikes?

yep

While checking out HBO HD over the free weekend I found KDOC HD on 456 (they are 56 on regular OTA TV and 19 on TWC in my area). Terrible signal though, locks up continually, impossible to watch, but never saw it there before. /Dan

I saw it there too this past weekend, since I just assumed that it will be stretch-o-vision for a while.

I wonder how much adding 456 is related to the Ducks being in the playoffs, starting in a couple of weeks?

anyone else get the price hikes?
Not worth talking about in this thread so a general comment. If your only notification of the increase was in your latest bill (for me only on-line bill), then complain. I saw in my newly increased bill a note that said "as previously communicated" here are the new prices. I only knew it was coming from AVSForum discussions. I, brother, father, father-in-law all with TWC in the socal area did not get anything either and thought they had a movie or such on the bill and that is why it was higher. I plan on calling this week (after the initial callers slow down) and also plan on sending a letter (maybe e-mail) to the area President (included on TWC website under "About Us", Executive Team) about lack of HD when the whole country seems to be getting HD added on TWC, etc. I want to be loyal, but getting tougher.

Dan

anyone else get the price hikes?

I am looking E* as we speak (D* is just too expensive)

Hi;
Is everyone else getting HD On Demand? I've been seeing the advertising non-stop for almost a year now and we don't get it. We are subscribed to everything, (except sports), and have Digital and get the 26 HD Chanels that are offered. Like HBO HD, SHO HD etc.....

But we were first told that November 19th, 2007 we'd have HD On Demand and then told to wait until March 19th 2008. Which didn't materialize.

We can't seem to get a straight answer out of Time Warner and no one seems to know. They've sent a tech out and we've reset our box almost daily. So is anyone out here getting HD On Demand movies?
Thanks,
Jo

I have had HD on Demand for months....some of it is free but even if you subscribe to HBO...Starz...Cinemax...etc and have channels that are to that effect in the regular lineup you will pay to see the very same movies in HD on Demand... some are 99 cents...this makes me see red....it's double dipping...I record the HD movies on my DVR but I would prefer to watch them any time without taking up space on my recorder....they have Mojo...AMC's Breaking Bad and a few others for free....but to me it's not worth it...so don't fret you are not missing much...

No letter for me...yet. I'll just call and threaten to cancel.

my rate increase was as follows

Broadcast cable up $2.44
Basic cable w/broadcast up $3.00
Digital cable up $3.00
Video extream up $5
Digital Receiver up $0.46
HD receiver up $1.46
DVR receiver up $1.46
DVR service fee no change
remote control $0.04
cable card no change
digital programing fee (2nd box) no change

First off, I got to say thanks to everyone in this forum. Been lurking for a while.
I didn't get any notification from TWC about the rate increase as well. I found out through this forum!
Also, any other South Bay people experiencing any outtages this morning? My wife went to watch the news this morning and the box turns on, but the screen stays black. I tried rebooting the box and it resets to 12:00. I'm in Lawndale, btw.
just wondering if I need to call TWC or try a new HDMI cable.
-J-

i called TWC. "crews are working in my area".

I just picked up HBO and Cinemax including the HD and ondemand channels for $10 a month

Time Warner Cable executive to oversee Western region

Stephen Pagano helped the firm work through a debacle in combining Southland operations.

By Andrea Chang, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 28, 2008

Stephen Pagano, brought in a year ago to help Time Warner Cable Inc. work through a botched effort to combine the operations of three Southern California cable systems, was promoted to a new position overseeing the cable TV giant's Western region.

Pagano, a 26-year veteran of Time Warner, was named executive vice president for a region covering 2.5 million customers in Los Angeles, San Diego and Hawaii.

He came to Los Angeles after the company's debacle in consolidating and upgrading properties it acquired from Comcast Corp. and bankrupt Adelphia Communications Inc., which gave it 1.9 million customers throughout the greater L.A. metropolitan area.

But for about six months, the company faced an avalanche of complaints about Internet and e-mail outages, TV channel lineup changes and pressure to sign up for digital service. Customers complained of maddeningly long waits to reach agents by phone.

The debacle cost Roger Keating his job as head of Time Warner's Southland region.

andrea.chang@latimes.com
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pagano28mar28,1,4589786.story

Well there is really no other way to say it. I'm not mocking in the title I actually mean it this time. According to a thread in another forum ( see link below ) TWC is testing a bunch of new HD channels somewhere here in Southern California. And according to the thread poster end of year is a proposed go live date. It will be interesting to see where in Southern Cal the poster lives. Something tells me he is not in a former Adelphia area which has a no bandwidth and no hope of new HD, but time will tell. Gotta give props to TWC for trying something, even if there's little chance I personally will be able to see these results.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1012394
Rudy

I'm posting this more for the humor of it than anything else. Apparently TWC has announced they will offer the 10 EI games in HD each week this year. Of course the statement said that it would be up to each area to decide if they would do it or not. I'm sure former Adelphia areas will not be included but you never know.

Seriously, why are these people so clueless?

They succeed at monthly billing; you expect them to give out complete and accurate product information too?

landlady says I can't get a dish

*sigh*

so, how many years is it gonna be until TWC SoCal does what 90% of the country already has and gives me Versus HD so I can watch the NHL playoffs in high def?

landlady says I can't get a dish


I was under the impression that a landlord couldn't deny a tenant access to having a dish as long it was installed in the space that is covered by the lease (e.g. a window ledge or balcony).

She's saying the homeowners association forbids it. I pointed out to her like half of the condos in the same area have them (the vast majority roof mounted) and she just said "well those people must be in violation"

She said she'd bring it up at the next HA meeting and to call her back in a month. But yeah, if she produces no results I'll go straight to the HA myself and ask WTF their problem is.

I was thinking along the lines of apartment renters. Maybe condo boards are different. But why wait a month? Unless there's a certain protocol that has to be followed.

Well she said that the person she called said they weren't allowed but that she would address it at the next meeting, because like I said, tons of people already have them. Maybe they have to vote on it or something? I don't know, she's given me really dumb rules before that actually did end up being idiotic HA policies so I don't think she's lying here or anything.

HAs are evil and should be illegal imo

I was under the impression that a landlord couldn't deny a tenant access to having a dish as long it was installed in the space that is covered by the lease (e.g. a window ledge or balcony).

Ah, OTARD:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

Basically, you can "install" a dish in any area which is for your exclusive use. HOA can't prevent you from doing so. Your landlady can stop you from drilling holes in her walls/roof in connection with this. Usual solution involves something easily removable and non-permanent such as a tripod or a home-made clamp for the balcony railings.

Holy carp! All my channels are in HD!

Holy carp! All my channels are in HD!

Relax and take an Xanax, you're just having a reaction to the day. ;)

Did anyone else notice last night around 11pm that ESPN2 HD turned into ESPNNews HD. I'm not sure how long it lasted since i only watched it for about an hour but it was pretty cool. Not sure if it was a time warner thing or if ESPN changed it for promotional purposes.

TWC - North Hollywood

For QAM viewers it is on channels 108.417 - 108.430.

Rudy

my cable and internet went out in eagle rock area at 12:30 last night. not sure if anything was upgraded or if it was an outage?

Well there is really no other way to say it. I'm not mocking in the title I actually mean it this time. According to a thread in another forum ( see link below ) TWC is testing a bunch of new HD channels somewhere here in Southern California. And according to the thread poster end of year is a proposed go live date. It will be interesting to see where in Southern Cal the poster lives. Something tells me he is not in a former Adelphia area which has a no bandwidth and no hope of new HD, but time will tell. Gotta give props to TWC for trying something, even if there's little chance I personally will be able to see these results.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1012394
Rudy

As I posted a couple of weeks ago, I spoke with Fred Stefany, then Time Warner President of Orange, San Bernardino, Riverside counties here in California.

He said to expect 20 more HD channels in the May 2008 time frame including Discovery, National Geographic, Travel, Food, CNN, etc. This was in the Fontana/Ontario area.

my cable and internet went out in eagle rock area at 12:30 last night. not sure if anything was upgraded or if it was an outage?

When I got up this morning my internet was out (didn't check cable). Eagle Rock as well. It came back online around 6am. Don't know if it's related to your outage or not.

As I posted a couple of weeks ago, I spoke with Fred Stefany, then Time Warner President of Orange, San Bernardino, Riverside counties here in California.

He said to expect 20 more HD channels in the May 2008 time frame including Discovery, National Geographic, Travel, Food, CNN, etc. This was in the Fontana/Ontario area.
Let's hope this is true for all areas and former Comcast and Adelphia area.

Thanks.
Rudy

As I posted a couple of weeks ago, I spoke with Fred Stefany, then Time Warner President of Orange, San Bernardino, Riverside counties here in California.

He said to expect 20 more HD channels in the May 2008 time frame including Discovery, National Geographic, Travel, Food, CNN, etc. This was in the Fontana/Ontario area.

Darn, no LA county yet?

Yeah, I'm getting real sick of waiting for more HD in the LA area...I keep reading Engadget HD and they keep dumping loads of HD in the NY area, so why not LA??? What freakin' gives....

I live in Encino. Any word on any new HD channels coming soon...?

After a bit of searching I wasn't able to find a simple list of clear QAM channels available in my area, so here's the one I made. If I'm missing channels, I'd appreciate a reply. If this is against etiquette, sorry in advance. (Also, the channel numbers are translated from actual frequencies, so may be off, but it looks right.)

TimeWarner, extended basic, West LA (90024) Clear QAM:

79.1 KABC
79.2 KAZA
79.3 KCET
79.4 KCOP
79.5 KDOC
79.6 KTTV
79.7 KMEX
79.8 KWHY
79.9 KTLA
79.10 KRCA
79.11 KFTR
79.12 KXLA
80.16 KCBS
80.18 KNBC
80.20 KTBN
80.23 KSCI
80.24 KVEA
80.26 HSN
80.19 ION
80.25 CSPAN
80.21 KJLA
80.22 KLCS
80.17 KCAL
81.36 TBS
82.38 VH1
82.39 Comedy
82.40 A&E
82.42 MUN2
82.43 TVLand
82.45 ESPN2
82.46 ESPN
83.52 AMC
86.108 TimeWarner Ads
86.110 Style
86.109 TCM
87.91 KVMDDT
87.65 QVC
87.88 KOCE
87.89 WGN
87.90 KHIZ
87.1 QVC
87.64 Disney
87.93 CSPAN2
87.87 KABC
92.409 V-Me
93.501 KCBSHD
93.502 KNBCHD
93.503 NewsRaw (KNBC Subchannel)
94.504 KABCHD
94.506 KCETHD
94.505 KTTVHD
96.225 DHC
100.507 FSN HD (test bars when off air)
103.518 ESPNHD (No sound)
104.525 KCALHD
111.22 TimeWarner on demand ads
116.235 WTHRPL
116.237 KABCW
116.236 KABCDT
118.212 ShpNBC
118.228 TWC
118.231 TVGN 1
118.222 Public 1
118.221 Public 2
118.220 Public 3
118.229 TVGN 2
118.230 TVGN 22
118.223 Public 4
118.224 CityTV
119.215 Public 5
119.219 LACH
119.218 Public 6
119.214 Public 7
119.213 Public 8
119.211 Public 9
119.209 Arts
119.208 Public 10
119.217 LACITY
119.226 Public 11
119.227 Public 12
121.204 KTLAHD
122.405 KOCEHD

--
Steve

Would it be bad to ask TWC why there is no sound on ESPN HD?

Wow, I don't get even half of those in Torrance... :(

Time Warner Cable Launches Breakthrough Hispanic Digital Video and International Phone Services in Southern California

LOS ANGELES, April 2, 2008 /PRNewswire/ -- Time Warner Cable Los
Angeles Division today announced the launch of Paquetazo (translation:
package of all packages), its new best-of English and Spanish-language
digital video offering designed to appeal to the nearly two million
Hispanic residents in TWC's service area. Additionally, TWC LA announced
the launch of International OnePrice calling plan that provides flat-rate
international calling to about 100 countries, representing more than 80
percent of the world's population. To showcase the new services, Time
Warner Cable will hold a media launch event on April 24, 2008 from 5:00 to
8:00 pm at the Latino Theater Company (514 South Spring Street, Los
Angeles, CA 90013).

Paquetazo

Paquetazo is a new product designed to super-serve the sizeable
Hispanic market in Southern California. It combines "best-of"
Spanish-language channels with highly rated English-language networks at a
value-conscience price of $34.95 per month. Today's additions of 13 new
Spanish-language channels give TWCLA Paquetazo customers access to
THE MOST Spanish-language content in the marketplace.

Paquetazo is located on easy-to-navigate channel block starting with
channel 805 and includes:

-- 8 Spanish-language broadcast channels

-- 5 regional Mexican channels

-- 8 regional South American channels

-- 7 Spanish-language kids and family channels

-- 4 Spanish-language sports channels

-- 4 Hispanic music channels

-- 4,000 hours of free Spanish-language and English-language VOD
programming

-- More than 60 English-language networks including ESPN, Food Network and
Turner Classic Movies, among others

Total Spanish-language networks: 52

Total English-language networks: 105
(Please see channel lineup below for list of all channels above broadcast.)

International OnePrice

International OnePrice is TWC's new residential flat-rate international
calling plan. When bundled with TWC's Digital Phone and either video or
Internet services, International OnePrice costs $19.95 per month. Features
include up to 3,000 minutes of international calling to over 100 countries
worldwide including Mexico, Colombia and El Salvador, among others. (Calls
to most mobile phones operated overseas are not included.)

Bundles
Customers can benefit by bundling Paquetazo with any other TWC service.

-- Paquetazo only: $34.95 per month

-- Paquetazo with Digital Phone or Road Runner: $49.95 for 12 months

-- Paquetazo Triple Play: $79.95 for 12 months

-- International OnePrice with either Double or Triple Play: $19.95 more
per month

Time Warner Cable EVP Stephen Pagano said, "Today's announcement is
exciting because it means more people in southern California will have
access to more new channels, more choices of video and phone services,
more savings from bundling multiple products and more convenience with
one bill for all services. With Paquetazo and International OnePrice, TWC is able to
address all the many entertainment and communications needs of the
Southland's diverse, multi-generational Latino community."

Customers interested in any TWC products should visit
http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal for more information.

About Time Warner Cable Los Angeles Region

Time Warner Cable California serves approximately 1.9 million customers
in Ventura, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino Counties, and
employs approximately 5,600 local professionals. Leveraging its leadership
in innovation, its quality, local customer care and its fiber-rich
broadband network, Time Warner Cable delivers advanced products and
services including digital cable, video on demand, high-definition
television, digital video recorders, high-speed data and digital phone.

Nationally, Time Warner Cable is the second-largest cable operator in
the U.S., with technologically advanced, well-clustered systems located
mainly in five geographic areas -- New York state (including New York
City), the Carolinas, Ohio, southern California (including Los Angeles) and
Texas. As of December 31, 2007, Time Warner Cable served approximately
14.6 million customers who subscribed to one or more of its video, high-speed
data and voice services.

For more information, please visit http://www.timewarnercable.com.

EL PAQUETAZO DIGITAL CABLE CHANNEL LINEUP

Effective March 26, 2008

1-888-TW-CABLE (1-888-892-2253)
http://www.TimeWarnerCable.com/SoCal

Digital Cable service, El Paquetazo is not available in all areas.
Digital Cable service, El Paquetazo includes Broadcast channels (vary
by area) plus the following digital channels:

Video On Demand 1
Galavision 805
Mexico 22 806
CBTV Michoacan 807
Once Mexico 808
Sur Mexico 809
TVE Internacional 811
Sur 816
Sur Peru-Coming Soon 817
Latinoamerica TV 818
Ecuavisa Internacional 819
TVChile 820
Caracol Internacional 821
TV Colombia 822
TV Venezuela-Coming Soon 823
CNN en Espanol 828
The History Channel En Espanol 829
Discovery En Espanol 830
De Pelicula 832
De Pelicula Clasico 833
Cine Latino 834
Infinito 835
Cine Mexicano 836
HTV 838
Video Rola 839
Bandamax 840
KBEH 841
SiTV 842
Utilisima 844
Latele Novela 845
Cartoon Network (SAP)* 847
Boomerang (SAP) 848
Toon Disney en SAP 849
Sorpresa 850
V-me 851
Discovery Familia 852
La Familia Cosmovision 853
EWTN Espanol 854
GolTV 856
AYM Sports 857

Fox Sports en Espanol 859
ESPN Deportes 860
ESPN 861
ESPN 2 862
Fox Soccer Channel 863
Fox College Sports Pacific 864
Fox College Sports Central 865
Fox College Sports Atlantic 866
The Weather Channel 868
Travel Channel 869
Animal Planet 870
Discovery Home 871
Investigation Discovery 872
Discovery Health 873
The Science Channel 874
The California Channel 875
Turner Classic Movies 876
Fox Movie Channel 877
VH1 878
CMT 879
MTV2 880
MTV Hits 881
MTV Jams 882
BBC America 884
The Style Network 885
Logo 886
SOAPnet 887
Fox Reality 888
Food Network 889
DIY 890
HGTV 891
Fine Living 892
Boomerang 893
Discovery Kids 894
Nicktoons Network 895
PBS Kids Sprout-Coming Soon 896
Hallmark Channel 897
EWTN 898
Inspiration Network 899

* Not available in Artesia and Claremont. Lineup and programming
subject to change without notice.

Channels also available in these tiers:
El Paquetazo Dos
Espanol
Broadcast
Basic Cable
Choice
Movie
Sports
Variety


SOURCE Time Warner Cable

Time Warner Cable Gets Aggressive with Paquetazo!

April 3, 2008

“Paquetazo is—as it’s name suggests—the mother of all Latino channel bundles,” says Time Warner’s regional VP of Communications Patti Rockenwagner. “It’s the most robust Span-language offering in SoCal, in terms of range and volume, compared with the competition.”

At $34.95 per month for over 50 Spanish-language channels and over 100 English-language channels, Time Warner is describing it as a value-driven package. The mix of English and Spanish channels in the offering is meant to cater to multi-generational, multi-lingual households—a mainstay in the region. Rockenwagner tells Portada that upwards of 40% of TWC’s service areas in SoCal can be described as Latino.

In terms of content, the offering is a mix of regional Mexican and Latin American channels, and is diverse in its genres, which include: Kids/Family programming, movies and sports coverage.

The new offering will be supported by Out-of-Home advertising, Print (Papers, Direct mail, FSIs) Television and Radio commercials, starting toward the end of April.

SoCal Hispanic agency Al Punto is handling all of the creative and media buying planning responsibilities.

http://www.portada-online.com/html/website/paid/2008/April07/Paquetazo.aspx

Would it be bad to ask TWC why there is no sound on ESPN HD?

I got Mojo HD, ESPN HD, and ESPN2 HD on QAM, with no sound. They are on HD tier, I think that's why. It doesn't hurt to ask, but I don't think they will tell you why, or do anything about it.

Did anyone else notice last night around 11pm that ESPN2 HD turned into ESPNNews HD. I'm not sure how long it lasted since i only watched it for about an hour but it was pretty cool. Not sure if it was a time warner thing or if ESPN changed it for promotional purposes.

TWC - North Hollywood
I think this happened because ESPN was showing an Angels or Dodgers game which was blacked out due to local (FSN or KCAL) coverage. I love the new look of ESPNNEWS HD. I could really get used to that.

By the way, I just want to point out that I live in an apartment without a southern-facing sky, so I am stuck with TWC. I have been on the phone with AT&T and Verizon begging them to get their respective FIOS networks out to our place, but so far no luck. I would love to go with either of the dish companies, but it just is not in the cards. Grrrrrrrrr.

I have been in communication with some sort of a higher-up at TWC recently and they basically told me that the lack of an HD lineup for people in my area (former Adelphia) is because of a lack of broadband space and poor infrastructure. As has been mentioned numerous times already, they are attempting to upgrade but I was given the same basic timeline as was mentioned earlier: Early 2009. It's just amazing that it takes so long.

Oh, and by the way, I didn't realize this before but each TWC region has to negotiate its own contracts with each channel. That is why Omaha got 50 HD channels long before anyone else in the country did and why NY is getting those same 50 within the next month or so. Anyone else here this or is it just TWC BS. If this is true, I guess our negotiator just isn't that good???

Well I singed up for E* yesterday, looks like I am scheduled to be installed on the 5 of April (have to for Verizon to ship me a DSL kit) so I''l be around AVS for another week.

Well, i'm about to get an HDTV. Looking at my guide, it looks like TWC has 14 HD stations and some of those show HD only part time. Yet, i'm reading that TWC in most other parts of the country, including cities that have a medium age of 110, either have or are getting 30, 40, 50 or more HD stations. I have the top of the line digital package, but are you telling me i can only get a measley 14 HD stations in LA?

Well I singed up for E* yesterday, looks like I am scheduled to be installed on the 5 of April (have to for Verizon to ship me a DSL kit) so I''l be around AVS for another week.

Good for you! What was the deciding factor for the big E instead of the big D?? Or do you get a benefit for having V-DSL, big D gave $10 for a year or 10 months, I forget which deal was which.

I have the top of the line digital package, but are you telling me I can only get a measly 14 HD stations in LA?

Correct. See previous page. TW evidently places more importance on provision of additional foreign language programming than the addition of HD service.

And don't forget, they love having 3 separate channels showing the same SD programming as well...CWC is a joke...

Time Warner Cable Launches More HD Channels In San Diego

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6548068.html

Good for you! What was the deciding factor for the big E instead of the big D?? Or do you get a benefit for having V-DSL, big D gave $10 for a year or 10 months, I forget which deal was which.

Well, the main decision factor for me was price. Verizon does give a discount for their triple play customers (with both DirecTV and FiOS). I have been on http://www.DBStalk.com and I've read Verizon only gives a $5.00 discount for DirecTV, and thatI will have to buy the equipment. I've also read that Verizon's billing practices, for either DirecTV or FiOS, can be erroneous. Based on these facts I chose E*. I also chose E* because I do not like D*'s DVR.

Anybody know if additional HD content is ever coming to Ventura County?

Well, the main decision factor for me was price. Verizon does give a discount for their triple play customers (with both DirecTV and FiOS). I have been on http://www.DBStalk.com and I've read Verizon only gives a $5.00 discount for DirecTV, and thatI will have to buy the equipment. I've also read that Verizon's billing practices, for either DirecTV or FiOS, can be erroneous. Based on these facts I chose E*. I also chose E* because I do not like D*'s DVR.
Is there a triple play package that is D* service and then with FIOS for internet/VoIP?

Anybody know if additional HD content is ever coming to Ventura County?

On Thursday I noticed a new HD movie menu located in OnDemand but now it's gone. Maybe they were making a test run.

Mojo is part of the additional cost HD tier. Dan

if thats the case then shouldnt i not be able to receive the channel at all with my QAM tuner? the picture is crystal clear but without sound. i dont get any other HD channels besides the locals.

And don't forget, they love having 3 separate channels showing the same SD programming as well.

Can you expand on this? Just curious.

Cartoon Network channels 66, 187, 334

Time Warner Cable Gets Aggressive with Paquetazo!

April 3, 2008

“Paquetazo is—as it’s name suggests—the mother of all Latino channel bundles,” says Time Warner’s regional VP of Communications Patti Rockenwagner. “It’s the most robust Span-language offering in SoCal, in terms of range and volume, compared with the competition.”

40% of TWC’s SoCal service areas are Latino.

Thats nice. Who do I ask why is it that TW does not pass second audio in Spanish from the networks to the Los Angeles area then? Weird that they would have such a large latino customer base and set up this package but not pass second audio.

When I had Dish network they did pass second audio from the local LA networks, but not TW!

It also would be nice if TWC would place all of the Latino channels on the back end of the grid. Sort of like what they do for Chinese, Russian, Korean channels. There is nothing more aggravating than toggling through 30 Mexican channels to find an English speaking one.

I delete all the Spanish language and religious stations from the lineup on my TiVos. However, I do occasionally like to watch the hot Latinas selling trucks on Saturday mornings.

if thats the case then shouldnt i not be able to receive the channel at all with my QAM tuner? the picture is crystal clear but without sound. i dont get any other HD channels besides the locals.
No. :) Consider it an accident. It will disappear, sooner or later.

Rudy

Can you expand on this? Just curious.
Well I'll give it a shot, if you don't mind. For example TWC transmits ESPN, in Analog, Digital(480i) and Digital(720p). So that's three copies of the same channel.

.......
Oh, and by the way, I didn't realize this before but each TWC region has to negotiate its own contracts with each channel. That is why Omaha got 50 HD channels long before anyone else in the country did and why NY is getting those same 50 within the next month or so. Anyone else here this or is it just TWC BS. If this is true, I guess our negotiator just isn't that good???
I do not think that this is the case. However, if someone knows otherwise I'm happy to be corrected. All the contracts are negotiated centrally by the TWC headquarters. Thereafter each region and or area gets to decide whether they will show this channel or not based on their infrastructure.

At least this is what I have read so far.
Rudy

Well I'll give it a shot, if you don't mind. For example TWC transmits ESPN, in Analog, Digital(480i) and Digital(720p). So that's three copies of the same channel.

Negative...in Torrance at least, we don't get Food HD, but we have 3 versions of it in SD, on channels 95, 174, and 1410...the same is true for plenty of other channels as well like FX, USA, etc. TONS of wasted bandwidth for no apparent reason....

If I had to guess, I'd say it isn't wasting any bandwidth and it's just appearing on 3 different numerical channels on your digital cable box but they're only sending one feed. Many times the channels in the digital range are actually analog if an analog version exists for basic cable subscribers.

This is true there is only one feed coming in and the cable box points to the different channels. I talked to a time Warner engineer and he told me that when i asked him.

I'm having a problem getting OnDemand when I insert a Pioneer 640H DVR between the cable in and my Time Warner cable box.

If I remove the 640, no OnDemand problem.

I installed an Electroline amp, but no joy.

So, is it possible the 640 blocks two-way communication? Or is something else happening?

Thanks,

pj

Time Warner Cable Launches More HD Channels In San Diego

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6548068.html

How very nice for TW San Diego subscribers...I pay over $200 a month for TW's all in one including HD stations...I live in the O.C....when are we going to get our monies worth with the addition of HD channels...as it is right now we have multiples of HBOHD...StarzHD...etc instead of the channels San Diego subcribers are enjoying...we have 22 stations..that's it...makes Directtv look better and better to me...

I'm in the same boat llabine, I just love hearing TWC launching more HD in every other market other than one of their biggest...:rolleyes:

I had some free time and ran a scan of the cable line with my QAM digital TV. Then I checked the channels found. Kind of boring and slow since most channels found are blank (encrypted?). Anyway, I got to channel 0 and there was a welcome screen about now having Navigator (which I don't, but I was not using my DVR box so seeing what others would see that have it). Go up a channel and there was another channel 0 with advertisements. Found HBO-HD without having HBO, but it was in Spanish! Imagine John Adams, Ben Franklin, and the French sculpter in France speaking Spanish. I happened to see that show during the free HBO weekend at Easter.

/Dan

Hi,
I live in Santa Clarita, by Magic Mountain. In the past week or so all my recordings now start about 20-40 seconds late. Now when I watch recordings, I notice that the beginning of all shows are missing.

Example- Tonight show now starts just as Leno starts his monologue. It used to start with an announcer telling what is in store for the night.

does anyone with the center ice package have any idea what channels the playoff games will be airing? even the website (indemand.com) doesnt have a listing. might be their fault, not TW's, but you cant schedule a recording from work, so unless I know by 9 am, im screwed for game 1

Hi,
I live in Santa Clarita, by Magic Mountain. In the past week or so all my recordings now start about 20-40 seconds late. Now when I watch recordings, I notice that the beginning of all shows are missing.

Example- Tonight show now starts just as Leno starts his monologue. It used to start with an announcer telling what is in store for the night.

Just start every recording 1-2 mins. early..

Just start every recording 1-2 mins. early..

Is there a way to do that?

If you have Passport...in the guide after you've set it to record, just hit 'ok' again, scroll down, and click 'recording options' or something like that, then you can specify a custom start time and end time.

If you have Navigator (god help your soul), when you are in the guide and hit record, just scroll down to 'record with options' or something like that...

Hope this helps...

im kinda new to all this, but like all you guys also get all my local channels in HD and also get MojoHD here in North Hollywood through the QAM tuner

but weird thing is channels 112-2 through 113-9 i get on demand channels, like lately ive been getting Dexter, The John Adams miniseries, cartoons, movies like Borat, TMNT, etc and even sometimes porn movies:eek:

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Caught this digital channel with my HDTV card yesterday via TWC. Mainly infomercials, but sometimes shows programming/trailers from KEYT Santa Barbara.

I had a lot of cables replaced today at my house in Fountain Valley, I was talking to the two guys that where doing it. a couple of weeks ago they upgraded the fiber optics in my area I even saw the new fiber they open the box at the front of my house. They told me that next month there going to go to a 1 gig network and by the 17th of next month I should have 60 hd channels right now its about 32. They told me FIOS has come to FV and where going to keep up with them

i take this with a pinch of salt

I think I mentioned I was writing a paper letter to TW mainly about limited HD and no news (also why no notice of price increase). I did send the letter and a week after I mailed it I had a phone call from an assistant to the VP with notes from the VP. Apparently they meet daily (I think she said) and they discussed some of my issues and I gave her a couple more on the phone. Anyway, the meat that you might be interested in... She read the list of HD to be added in Orange (the city of, which I think would for sure cover HB, GG, Westminster and probably other So Cal areas), and it was quite large (15 or so but was listening for my favorites and not counting). Sounded like the ones San Diego got. She said all should be active by end of year with most scheduled by August. She also said some of the limiting rules have been dropped or relaxed and they can get rid of some of the "must carry rule" channels and move things off analog to get bandwidth. She did give me her name and number for any more questions. This is how they dealt with me with a paper letter 3-4 years ago regarding DVRs. Does work best unless you like the boiler plate e-mail replies. /Dan

Color me disappointed. :mad:

I'm moving to Torrance on Friday and have been trying to decide on what TWC package to get. After spending a couple of months at my parents place in SD, I guess I've gotten spoiled with all the HD channels they have been adding lately. The list of available HD channels from TWC in Torrance is nothing short of an embarassment! I've been looking forward to buying my first HDTV as a new job / new apt present, but that just doesn't seem to make sense, given the lack of programming. (I'm stuck with cable at the apartment I'm moving into.) So I'm now thinking of just sticking with my trusty twelve-year-old 27" Sony and SD programming for the time being. Grrrr.

Might be good, as it would allow me to save up for the 9G Pio I really want, rather than buying something else now, anyway...

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Caught this digital channel with my HDTV card yesterday via TWC. Mainly infomercials, but sometimes shows programming/trailers from KEYT Santa Barbara.

That's what it is, you'll also find WGN which isn't on our roster either.

I think I mentioned I was writing a paper letter to TW mainly about limited HD and no news (also why no notice of price increase). I did send the letter and a week after I mailed it I had a phone call from an assistant to the VP with notes from the VP. Apparently they meet daily (I think she said) and they discussed some of my issues and I gave her a couple more on the phone. Anyway, the meat that you might be interested in... She read the list of HD to be added in Orange (the city of, which I think would for sure cover HB, GG, Westminster and probably other So Cal areas), and it was quite large (15 or so but was listening for my favorites and not counting). Sounded like the ones San Diego got. She said all should be active by end of year with most scheduled by August. She also said some of the limiting rules have been dropped or relaxed and they can get rid of some of the "must carry rule" channels and move things off analog to get bandwidth. She did give me her name and number for any more questions. This is how they dealt with me with a paper letter 3-4 years ago regarding DVRs. Does work best unless you like the boiler plate e-mail replies. /Dan


Wow Dank have you made me a happy camper....I live in Westminster in the O.C. and I would love 15 extra HD channels...especially since I have just added a second HD tv for the bedroom....at this rate I may never leave the house....:D

anyone know what type of DVRs they are giving out in Diamond Bar or Glendora?
any DCH-3416s?

That's what it is, you'll also find WGN which isn't on our roster either.

Thing is, Joe, I DO get KEYT, (WGN also), and the "full" programming comes up on another frequency. I was wondering if anyone recognised the "squashed TV" logo in the top right.

Thing is, Joe, I DO get KEYT, (WGN also), and the "full" programming comes up on another frequency. I was wondering if anyone recognised the "squashed TV" logo in the top right.

Gotcha! My bad.

I saw a TW commercial this morning and it bragged about their HD programming including Food HD..History HD... Disney HD....I have not gotten any of these channels yet in the O.C.....I am hoping for SciFi HD... A&E HD..HGTV HD....those 6 would make my day....

I saw a TW commercial this morning and it bragged about their HD programming including Food HD..History HD... Disney HD....I have not gotten any of these channels yet in the O.C.....I am hoping for SciFi HD... A&E HD..HGTV HD....those 6 would make my day....
I just saw that commercial earlier too. I think none of us in So Cal have those channels, yet. I do see the Food HD and HGTV HD on OnDemand.

OMG this is so frustrating, more missing channels every single one of my HD channels where blank again. I had to reboot the box (unplug) and wait 8 minutes to get it back up...

I think this is there soulution to there issues. I have notice when i get up most mornings my cable box is tunned to channel 1 which leads me to belive everynight there rebooting my box to clear all the buffers so i dont loose channels ...


COME on TWC get it right before you drive us all to D*

My DVR charge used to be $9.95/month. This was for the DVR and its complete functionality, period. Included the fact that it was also a receiver. This price recently went up by $.05 to $10.00/month.

This month's bill (reflecting recent price increases for other services and programming packages) now charges me an additional and separate $6.50/month (including a $.19 charge for the remote) for the "digital video receiver", which is of course built into the DVR.

The DVR is now billed separately as a "digital video service".

Total new monthly DVR charge: $16.50.

I don't recall seeing on the recent price increase brochure that this new additional $6.50/month was going to appear. It did show the $9.95 going up to $10.00, but not that they were going to begin charging separately for the receiver and service.

My DVR fee went down from $8.70 to $6.31 and the remote charge went down from $.25 to $.19, so my total bill went down by $2.45.

is anyone else getting really bad breakup on regular channels? not hd, like comedy central and such. going on right now.

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there is nothing on these channels worth watching other than a few snippets.. kind of sad

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there is nothing on these channels worth watching other than a few snippets.. kind of sad

I have had HDShowcase for a while now....there are some things worth watching but you're right for the most part there is nothing that interests me ...I did love Breaking Bad .....what irritates me is that I would love a "Free" OnDemand slot that shows just new HD movies that have already been on the premium channels...I subscribe to HBO...Showtime...Starz...Cinemax so it irks me that there is no slot for this...there is for the $4.99 movies in HD that have not hit the premium stations yet...another should be added ...sometimes there are 3 movies on the premium channels playing at once...also you can't record the $4.99movies for later viewing....you do get to keep them for 24 hours...NetFlix is better and cheaper...but you don't get to see the latest movies in HD...what to do....

My DVR charge used to be $9.95/month. This was for the DVR and its complete functionality, period. Included the fact that it was also a receiver. This price recently went up by $.05 to $10.00/month.

This month's bill (reflecting recent price increases for other services and programming packages) now charges me an additional and separate $6.50/month (including a $.19 charge for the remote) for the "digital video receiver", which is of course built into the DVR.

The DVR is now billed separately as a "digital video service".

Total new monthly DVR charge: $16.50.

I don't recall seeing on the recent price increase brochure that this new additional $6.50/month was going to appear. It did show the $9.95 going up to $10.00, but not that they were going to begin charging separately for the receiver and service.
You have been very lucky. For years (the whole time I have had a DVR) you rent it at the same price as a non-DVR box and then you add the DVR Service Fee ($10). /Dan

Does D*TV have PrimeHD as a dedicated channel? I'm getting tired of TWC not showing the Dodgers games in HD all the time, when everyone one of them are broadcast in HD. May be another reason to switch to D*TV.

Does anyone know what happens on Feb 2008 when analog is switched off?

I have two HD tv's with HD DVR's but I also have 3 non HD TV's (kids room and guest room) that have regular TV's that just take the cable right into the set? will i have to get rid of these TV's or will I have to rent a box from TWC?

has there been anything released on that ? I see that if you have over the air you can get buy a box to convert Digital to Analog?

anyone know?

Does D*TV have PrimeHD as a dedicated channel? I'm getting tired of TWC not showing the Dodgers games in HD all the time, when everyone one of them are broadcast in HD. May be another reason to switch to D*TV.
Yes.

Does anyone know what happens on Feb 2008 when analog is switched off?

I have two HD tv's with HD DVR's but I also have 3 non HD TV's (kids room and guest room) that have regular TV's that just take the cable right into the set? will i have to get rid of these TV's or will I have to rent a box from TWC?

has there been anything released on that ? I see that if you have over the air you can get buy a box to convert Digital to Analog?

anyone know?
Probably not much change. TWC (as most TV providers) doesn't say much that early on changes. TWC does do say you will still get what you are getting in their commercials/ads though. The only reason I say, not much change, is that some stations may move off analog to make room for more HD which is unrelated to Feb 2009 switch over to digital. So, related to the digital change date (which is for over the air only), nothing will probably change. Unrelated, you may see channels moving out of analog. That is my take on the situation. As most people, I have TVs also used on cable analog only and not planning to pay for a couple more boxes. That is one advantage we have had over satellite. /Dan

Yes.
Joe, you switched to D* a little while ago right? Can you comment on the picture quality of D* vs. TWC? Is D*'s "hd-lite" noticeable vs. TW, or perhaps, has mpeg-4 provided noticeable benefits.

D*'s extensive hd channels are enticing but I also don't want to lose signficant picture quality.

I went into the TW office today with a friend picking up a box...I asked if and when we would be getting new HD channels....I was told that approximately 20 new stations will be added...Food network...HGTV...Discovery...CNN..National Geograpic...Disney...A&E...Scifi...and many more I can't remember...this is going to happen before the end of the year more likely in August...if you go into your local office or call them they now have the info....for those asking about the picture quality of D****ttv and D**h...it is compressed and does not hold a candle to cable or Fios...two of my friends have satellite and it is not the crystal clear looking out a window experience I have when I look at TW...yes they offer more HD but I want quality ... its worth keeping TW for the time being...also I asked about the OCAP boxes and whether you can still get Passport...instead of the quick NO that I got the first time I asked the TW people said that if they have Passport they will give you that....the guy whispered to me that they have had so many complaints that they are quietly giving them to folks who ask....

So there you have it....I would not know any of this if it were not for my friend swapping out her digital box for an HD box....pays to be the driver...LOL...

Joe, you switched to D* a little while ago right? Can you comment on the picture quality of D* vs. TWC? Is D*'s "HD-lite" noticeable vs. TW, or perhaps, has mpeg-4 provided noticeable benefits.

D*'s extensive HD channels are enticing but I also don't want to lose significant picture quality.

Not Joe, but I switched to D* a few weeks ago. Personal opinion is that D*'s HD is "crisper" than TW's. Two motivators for switching were cost (introductory offer + AAA offer = $20 off regular price) and channel selection (D* carries Setanta and a wider HD range). I'm very happy thus far.

Joe, you switched to D* a little while ago right? Can you comment on the picture quality of D* vs. TWC? Is D*'s "hd-lite" noticeable vs. TW, or perhaps, has mpeg-4 provided noticeable benefits.

D*'s extensive hd channels are enticing but I also don't want to lose signficant picture quality.

Perfect time to ask. I was just over at a friend's house helping him set up his brand new Samsung 46" LCD HDTV. He has TWC and got a new HDDVR (Moto DCH). We were watching the Laker game tonight on TNT-HD. It was a motion blur/artifacting nightmare. I came home at halftime and am watching it on a DLP and LCD and it looks fine if not spectacular from D*. Can anyone else with TWC verify this? I can't believe the TV is at fault as XBox 360 looks spectacular and many other channels look good too. Is it TNT on TWC that is at fault? Maybe it's hos wiring?? If TNT was good for someone else in the West LA area maybe he needs TWC to check his signal strength?
Now, D*is by no means perfect. I have issues with KTLA and also KNBC this morning, I don't know if it's me or global. Nothing's perfect. Still, I'll deal with this overall. Most everything is simply great, compared.

Is it TNT on TWC that is at fault?
Pretty much, I'd say. I'm watching the game on TNT via TWC (in Los Feliz) and there's lots of motion artifacts, but there always has been on this station (KCAL-HD is also bad). ESPN-HD and ABC-HD are always pretty much flawless.

So I'd say PQ is very definitely station-dependent. I'm generally very satisfied with TWC.

The Laker game actually looked ok to me. Sometime TNT-HD b-ball games can be really bad with artifacts/motion blur. There was some of that tonight, but not as bad as I've seen.

Should've switched to FSN HD..perfect for me in Torrance, and Joel Myers and Stu Lance are way better than back biter... ;)

Should've switched to FSN HD..perfect for me in Torrance, and Joel Myers and Stu Lance are way better than back biter... ;)

I didn't know it was on FSN till too late. My friend said it cleared up in the later part of the game.

Well it looks like the last few pages of rumors are true about the addition of more HD!!! I just got this email from TWC...FINALLY!!!

Dear Brian,

We know how excited you get whenever you watch your favorite show or movie in high definition. That's why we are constantly adding MORE and MORE HD channels to your lineup.

You'll enjoy more of your favorite sports, kids' shows, movies and special interest channels in high-definition. You also get HD On Demand, so you can watch your shows and movies in high-definition whenever you choose.

Time Warner Cable is the Home of FREE HD programming. We give you access to FREE local and sports channels in HD with no equipment to buy. Get ready to watch Food HD, HGTV HD, CNN HD, History HD, Discovery HD and MORE COMING SOON.

We will continue to update you as we add more HD channels. The list will keep on growing.

It's a pleasure to keep our commitment to you in delivering the best in entertainment to your home.



Sincerely,



Your friends at Time Warner Cable


And at the bottom of the email page are network logos for History, HGTV, TLC, CNN, ABC Family, A&E, Disney Channel, National Geographic, Food, and Golf Channel.

.........
Get ready to watch Food HD, HGTV HD, CNN HD, History HD, Discovery HD and MORE COMING SOON.

.................

What does "COMING SOON" mean to Time Warner? A year and a half ago it was also COMING SOON. I don't mean to be sarcastic or pessimistic but without a time commitment this is just vaporware. Like Microsoft used to release. I mean there's not even a quarter in which this is "planned".

Rudy

What does "COMING SOON" mean to Time Warner? Sarcasm is definitely needed for TWC. There inability to keep commitments is my theory on why they never say anything and what I said in my paper letter to them. From my phone call I received after the letter, most of the HD channels were coming by August and the rest by the end of the year. Also, as seen a few messages back, someone else got that same reply in the office as I got in the phone call (I commented a week or so ago here). Rumors are getting more encouraging every day. Also got the e-mail about adding HD and wasn't sure how widespread it was. Looking promising..... /Dan

FIOS has been installed and is available in my area of Thousand Oaks.

Looks good on paper - has anybody heard anything regarding the actual performance of FIOS?

Trying to decide if I should make the switch...

Thanks,

pj

FIOS has been installed and is available in my area of Thousand Oaks.

Looks good on paper - has anybody heard anything regarding the actual performance of FIOS?

Trying to decide if I should make the switch...

Thanks,

pj

My friend got it last month in Santa Monica. He's pretty happy, has 15 down on the Internets, :eek:. Not using the TV much he has D*, at least for now, just hooked basic TV, happy with phone.

Thanks for the response Joe - did you say *15* down?

I think that I get only 6 down now with TWC basic...

pj

Sarcasm is definitely needed for TWC. There inability to keep commitments is my theory on why they never say anything and what I said in my paper letter to them. From my phone call I received after the letter, most of the HD channels were coming by August and the rest by the end of the year. Also, as seen a few messages back, someone else got that same reply in the office as I got in the phone call (I commented a week or so ago here). Rumors are getting more encouraging every day. Also got the e-mail about adding HD and wasn't sure how widespread it was. Looking promising..... /Dan
I hear you and am too hopeful. Although, yet a page or two above a guy in San Bernardino area was convinced that we will all be getting a bunch of channels in April/May.
FIOS has been installed and is available in my area of Thousand Oaks.

Looks good on paper - has anybody heard anything regarding the actual performance of FIOS?

Trying to decide if I should make the switch...

Thanks,

pj
Hey pj here is a link to the master FIOS thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590208

Thanks for the response Joe - did you say *15* down?

I think that I get only 6 down now with TWC basic...

pj

15 is the mid point and what he got. They go faster! :eek::eek::eek:

Does anyone else see a weird... image blink or something on 413 FSN HD? It's always during Angel games, whenever the camera moves quickly or pans left or right, like, I dunno how to explain it. Like every pixel kind of freezes for a split second so it gives kind of an annoying fuzz to the picture.

edit: Oh I guess it's called motion artifacts from what the guy said last page. Sucks. It's always on FSN HD Angels game, and it's been like this even since last season, I hate it.

My HD in Santa Clarita is totally FUBARd. Heavily pixelated and distorted. The Laker Game was unwatchable, and trying to watch KCET is almost unwatchable. The Channel 4 News this morning had similar issues. Really freaking annoying. Oh and TWC's tech support... "have you tried rebooting your box? OK Well we can send a tech out sometime in September."

Does anyone else see a weird... image blink or something on 413 FSN HD? It's always during Angel games, whenever the camera moves quickly or pans left or right, like, I dunno how to explain it. Like every pixel kind of freezes for a split second so it gives kind of an annoying fuzz to the picture.Did not notice last night. /Dan

I just picked up a Hauppauge HVR-1250 HDTV PC Tuner for my computer which supports Clear QAM. I currently have TWC Digital Cable.

I'm only able to pick up the local HD channels, but havne't been able to pick up FSN HD. Does anyone know which channel it's on?

I just picked up a Hauppauge HVR-1250 HDTV PC Tuner for my computer which supports Clear QAM. I currently have TWC Digital Cable.

I'm only able to pick up the local HD channels, but havne't been able to pick up FSN HD. Does anyone know which channel it's on?

100-507

What does "COMING SOON" mean to Time Warner? A year and a half ago it was also COMING SOON. I don't mean to be sarcastic or pessimistic but without a time commitment this is just vaporware. Like Microsoft used to release. I mean there's not even a quarter in which this is "planned".

Rudy

I'm hoping "Coming Soon" means in the next couple of months given the massive amount of HD channels that TWC is releasing in NYC today. All I really want is CNN, Speed, and Discovery HD.

I just picked up a Hauppauge HVR-1250 HDTV PC Tuner for my computer which supports Clear QAM. I currently have TWC Digital Cable.

I'm only able to pick up the local HD channels, but havne't been able to pick up FSN HD. Does anyone know which channel it's on?
Each area is different. At least put your city in your profile so we know where you are. Even with regards to clear QAM or not, I think that is area specific. I have not found FSN-HD in Orange (probably same as Huntington Beach, Westminster, Garden Grove which have same channel line-ups). /Dan

I just picked up a Hauppauge HVR-1250 HDTV PC Tuner for my computer which supports Clear QAM. I currently have TWC Digital Cable.

I'm only able to pick up the local HD channels, but havne't been able to pick up FSN HD. Does anyone know which channel it's on?

You're not going to get the encrypted FSN-HD on your clear QAM card. What you'll "officially" get is any digital carriage of "broadcast" tier stations plus any HD versions of those stations carried by TW. For some bizarre reason, I also get DIY, Hallmark, FUSE, BET J, EWTN, C-SPAN 1 & 2, Style, Discovery Health & HSN.

You're not going to get the encrypted FSN-HD on your clear QAM card. What you'll "officially" get is any digital carriage of "broadcast" tier stations plus any HD versions of those stations carried by TW. For some bizarre reason, I also get DIY, Hallmark, FUSE, BET J, EWTN, C-SPAN 1 & 2, Style, Discovery Health & HSN.
Normally Mad Mac would be correct, however, TWC does show FSN HD in the clear QAM. The channel number is 100-507 as alaindelon has already told you. However, Fox does not air a whole lot of stuff on that channel so most of the time it just has color bars on it.

Rudy

is anyone else having problems with KCAL? i just got home from class and i turned on my TV to watch the news but nothings showing up. i checked the regular SD broadcast (on TV) and the OTA broadcast (with TV tuner card) and theyre working fine.

Is anyone else having problems with KCAL? i just got home from class and I turned on my TV to watch the news but nothings showing up. I checked the regular SD broadcast (on TV) and the OTA broadcast (with TV tuner card) and they're working fine.

I was just about to ask this - the clear QAM on cable for 9 is completely blank here too. Where are you?

Mia in SD only :(

TWC does show FSN HD in the clear QAM.

Really! They've never done that in this area, which is why I gave that answer. Interesting.

im in the eagle rock coverage area

I'm in the Eagle Rock coverage area.

I'm well away from you (about 40 miles!). Thinking about this, I believe it's on KCAL's end. My HD card will give a "no signal" error. but it's not doing that. TW appear to be sending out a blank signal. I've sent a message over to KCAL 9 via their website, they're apparently pretty good at responding to them.

Each area is different. At least put your city in your profile so we know where you are. Even with regards to clear QAM or not, I think that is area specific. I have not found FSN-HD in Orange (probably same as Huntington Beach, Westminster, Garden Grove which have same channel line-ups). /Dan


I'm in Huntington Beach. I tried to pick up the channel last night when the Angels game was on, but it couldn't find anything.

I'm in Huntington Beach. I tried to pick up the channel last night when the Angels game was on, but it couldn't find anything.

I'm in Anaheim and its my first year watching Angels on FSN-HD. All I've seen so far this year is that the schedule means nothing and they seem to randomly trade games/announcers with KCOP. My preseason schedule says tonights game should be on FSN but it is on KCOP. And like you I tried to watch the game last night but it wasn't on in HD. FSN said they were going to broadcast like 75 games in HD but I don't think it will even be close at this point.

Edit: BTW in response to some of the messages above I recently did a qam scan and KCALDT isn't gone but has moved to a different frequency.

BTW in response to some of the messages above I recently did a qam scan and KCALDT isn't gone but has moved to a different frequency.

Just to be clear, do you mean the HD feed of KCAL?

is anyone else having problems with KCAL? i just got home from class and i turned on my TV to watch the news but nothings showing up. i checked the regular SD broadcast (on TV) and the OTA broadcast (with TV tuner card) and theyre working fine.

For some reason KCAL HD was moved from 104-525 to 121-205 today.This only affects those who tune in QUAM manually.KCAL HD is still on 409.My non TWC HD DVR (Sony with cablecard) adjusts itself automatically so most people will not notice it.I just found the new location by chance because it was between KTLA HD(121-204) and KOCE HD(122-405).I hope this means there are some shuffling going on to make room for some fresh HD channels.

For some reason KCAL HD was moved from 104-525 to 121-205 today.This only affects those who tune in QUAM manually.KCAL HD is still on 409.My non TWC HD DVR (Sony with cablecard) adjusts itself automatically so most people will not notice it.I just found the new location by chance because it was between KTLA HD(121-204) and KOCE HD(122-405).I hope this means there are some shuffling going on to make room for some fresh HD channels.

For those with Sharp based TVs it's now at 121.1

Thanks for the heads up!

Thanks for the info. Looks like an evening of re-doing the tuner card settings awaits......

For some reason KCAL HD was moved from 104-525 to 121-205 today.This only affects those who tune in QUAM manually.KCAL HD is still on 409.My non TWC HD DVR (Sony with cablecard) adjusts itself automatically so most people will not notice it.I just found the new location by chance because it was between KTLA HD(121-204) and KOCE HD(122-405).I hope this means there are some shuffling going on to make room for some fresh HD channels.
Please put in your location. Each area is different. In Orange (+ H.B., Westminster, G.G. I suspect) we do not get FSN-HD on clear QAM and QAM channel locations are different than West L.A. listings (different by TV brand?). Thanks, Dan

Please put in your location. Each area is different. In Orange (+ H.B., Westminster, G.G. I suspect) we do not get FSN-HD on clear QAM and QAM channel locations are different than West L.A. listings (different by TV brand?). Thanks, Dan

I don't think by brand except Sharp based TVs (mine is an HP) they're just weird. But hey! At least it does less numbers so my Harmony has no problems coding the favorite! The rest of my TVs follow the normal numbers.

Sony HDTV, Downtown L.A. KCAL9 HD was moved to 96.205 yesterday. :cool:

I hope this means there are some shuffling going on to make room for some fresh HD channels.

Yeah me too. But I talked to a guy who works at TWC in Anaheim the other day at the golf course and he basically told me all the managers tell the techs to always say that new HD channels are coming soon and to blame current capacity on the Adelphia rebuild if people press the issue. Then he went on to say that they have basically done nothing to the network Adelphia handed over to them except switch channels around and are far more concerned with everybody who has basic cable switching to digital. Doesn't sound all that promising but we shall see.

Anyone else experiencing a very "stuttering" feed of KCAL in its new position? From what I've been reading above, seems like TW moved this to a sub-channel adjacent to the KTLA HD feed (785 Mhz). KTLA HD has had similar problems (at least in this area) on clear QAM since it started.

On TW out here in Riverside.

Lost KCAL HD last night. QAM channel 104-525 or 104.3 depending on what tuner I am using.

Still have not found where it moved to.

bummer

Anyone else experiencing a very "stuttering" feed of KCAL in its new position? From what I've been reading above, seems like TW moved this to a sub-channel adjacent to the KTLA HD feed (785 Mhz). KTLA HD has had similar problems (at least in this area) on clear QAM since it started.

Looks fine to me on clear qam in Anaheim. 256QAM has a capacity of around 38 Mbit/s so 2 streams of around 19 Mbit/s should fit fine. I think most of the HD locals are already paired together (CBSHD and NBCHD for example). Might have been glitchy broadcast on their side. Are you still getting stutters?

FOUND KCAL HD on TW in Riverside

Moved to QAM 10-205 and 10.3

Looks fine to me on clear qam in Anaheim. 256QAM has a capacity of around 38 Mbit/s so 2 streams of around 19 Mbit/s should fit fine. I think most of the HD locals are already paired together (CBS HD and NBC HD for example). Might have been glitchy broadcast on their side. Are you still getting stutters?

Yep, still giving grief. Up here, we have the HD locals together as follows:

CBS & NBC

ABC, KCET & FOX (three on one)

KTLA and (now) KCAL

KOCE (I think it shares with an encrypted channel)

It's not a problem on the broadcaster's end. KTLA HD has always been that way on the clear QAM since TW started carrying it - also, when I look at the signal level for KTLA HD on my TV, it fluctuates wildly. It's like something is interfering with that frequency.

KCAL HD is now QAM 54.2 in Fullerton :)

KCAL HD is now QAM 54.1 in Fullerton :)

Does anyone know why some TVs see a channel as ###-### and others as ##-###? I wish they (the powers that be) would keep the numbering below 6 total (the Harmony limit). Oy.:(

Pardon my asking such a broad question, and please feel free to point me to a correct thread if there is one (I couldn't find one) but I'm not only new to the world of HD, but I haven't had cable since 2004! What can I say, I watch lots of movies and the only TV shows I see are on DVD. Anyway, I'm in the Mid-Wilshire area (West LA) and next week plan on picking up a Sammy PN50A550. I want to get cable again, but reviewing the TWC website vs some other information I've read has me a little confused. I see they call themselves "home of FREE HD" but according to the website you have to select an HD tier package (?). I'm also somewhat disappointed by their lack of HD content - Half the reason I'm excited for HD is for Discovery/History !

To cut to the chase I'm essentially looking for some basic information to arm myself when I give them a call to order digital HD cable. I'd like to know exactly what I need and don't need, etc.

Again, apologies if this pushes outside the scope of this thread/forum :)

THANKS!

I think here term home of the free HD is in regards to Direct TV where i think you have to pay.. pay for a HD receiver maybe a charge to use it.. TWC if you have a regular digital box and then you get a HD tv i think they just swap it out and you don't pay. they still do have a HD tier that only has about 4 or 5 channels and cost about $5 but i got them to waive that so i do get it for free :)

right now there is not much of a line up I think i have 24 channels of HD two i cant get stars and cinemax

Pardon my asking such a broad question, and please feel free to point me to a correct thread if there is one (I couldn't find one) but I'm not only new to the world of HD, but I haven't had cable since 2004! What can I say, I watch lots of movies and the only TV shows I see are on DVD. Anyway, I'm in the Mid-Wilshire area (West LA) and next week plan on picking up a Sammy PN50A550. I want to get cable again, but reviewing the TWC website vs some other information I've read has me a little confused. I see they call themselves "home of FREE HD" but according to the website you have to select an HD tier package (?). I'm also somewhat disappointed by their lack of HD content - Half the reason I'm excited for HD is for Discovery/History !

To cut to the chase I'm essentially looking for some basic information to arm myself when I give them a call to order digital HD cable. I'd like to know exactly what I need and don't need, etc.

Again, apologies if this pushes outside the scope of this thread/forum :)

THANKS!

"Free" is a relative term. The only "Free" HD is if you hook your new TV to an antenna and get the locals over the air (OTA). What they mean is they don't charge more just to receive a group of channels other than their basic charges for the DVR/Receiver and digital service. It's in there. Also if you already have basic cable in your condo or apt. (I do) you can hook the TV to it and its QAM tuner will find the local channels in the open, in HD, that's sorta free. For me it's in my condo carrying charges. I ditched TWC extras in favor of D* to actually get a wide choice of HD channels and a far better DVR. It costs me more over all but the quality and quantity is very very good. Just call them get the lineup of what you desire and see what FREE will actually cost. Remember to get the number PAST the initial discount so you don't get shocked. They all do the FREE dance, you just have to do your homework. One more point, TWC is month to month, I had to do a 2 year with D* and buy the hardware that I don't own! Not pleasent, they do it because they can. Fools like me bite.

Pardon my asking such a broad question, and please feel free to point me to a correct thread if there is one (I couldn't find one) but I'm not only new to the world of HD, but I haven't had cable since 2004! What can I say, I watch lots of movies and the only TV shows I see are on DVD. Anyway, I'm in the Mid-Wilshire area (West LA) and next week plan on picking up a Sammy PN50A550. I want to get cable again, but reviewing the TWC website vs some other information I've read has me a little confused. I see they call themselves "home of FREE HD" but according to the website you have to select an HD tier package (?). I'm also somewhat disappointed by their lack of HD content - Half the reason I'm excited for HD is for Discovery/History !

To cut to the chase I'm essentially looking for some basic information to arm myself when I give them a call to order digital HD cable. I'd like to know exactly what I need and don't need, etc.

Again, apologies if this pushes outside the scope of this thread/forum :)

THANKS!
Hey greyscalefade, here are some hi lites of your options:
1. As Joe mentioned, buy a good rooftop TV antenna and enjoy the truly free HD programming at the highest resolution possible. If you go to the OTA thread you'll get lots of help on how to pick and point your antenna. Additionally there are several of us in West LA, myself and Joe included, so we can try and pitch in help if questions come up.
2. Dish Network (E*) - Pros: They have far more HD channels than cable. Most notable of their option is the HD only package for a mere $29.99 a month. PVR equipment is said to be superior to others.Cons: They don't have as many HD channels as DirecTV. Because their satellite launch failed earlier in the year it is unclear for how much longer this will be the case. They also have more of their HD channels in MPEG2 format which is said to be of lower visual quality than DirecTV.
3. DirecTV (D*) - Pros: Have the most HD channels of any provider and is likely to continue to be the leader for foreseeable future. Has most of their HD channels in MPEG4 format which is said to be visually superior to MPEG2. Cons: What Joe said.
4. TWC - Pros: Is available in condos where mounting the Dish is forbidden or not possible due to no line of sight to the south. Cons: You should assume that the current HD line up will continue to be the line up for the foreseeable future. That way if a new HD channel actually does appear it will be a bonus. Every year or two there are rumors that new HD channels are coming soon and years later there are no new channels or even a sign of any such thing.
5. FiOS - Sadly Verizon that services our area does not have a fiber network in place in WLA and therefore this option is not available and will not be available in any foreseeable future.

Here is a thread that discuses the D* HD offering:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=914047

Here is a thread that discusses the E* HD offering:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=971635

HTH
Rudy

So nobody else had the problem of the channels all screwed?

TWC's "tech support" said they knew nothing of the issue, and were sending a tech, yet lo and behold, it suddenly fixed itself with system update sent and a reboot.

Thats what pisses me off most... they play ignorant, but I'm sure are aware of the issue, and claim "well we have to send a tech" but are really working on a software solution that'll be pushed down in a day or two.

At least they offered me a credit... which I gladly accepted.

They moved KCAL back to 9-1 in Torrance...fyi

So nobody else had the problem of the channels all screwed?

TWC's "tech support" said they knew nothing of the issue, and were sending a tech, yet lo and behold, it suddenly fixed itself with system update sent and a reboot.

Thats what pisses me off most... they play ignorant, but I'm sure are aware of the issue, and claim "well we have to send a tech" but are really working on a software solution that'll be pushed down in a day or two.

At least they offered me a credit... which I gladly accepted.


What was the problem? I noticed the last couple days there were some artifacts popping up and the sound was cutting out every few seconds.. fixed tonight though.

May? 2008?

Ok Time Warner, I'm ready for my new HD channels...

Ok Time Warner, I'm ready for my new HD channels...

They feel your pain.





Right.:cool::rolleyes:;)

They moved KCAL back to 9-1 in Torrance...fyi
I see Orange is mostly mapped to "proper" channels now via QAM (2.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.4, etc.). Even get 56.1 which is not on cable (but was for a couple days a while back). /Dan

The most logical way to add HD channels without having to do system upgrades is to shut down the Mexican and other foreign language channels. 2 high quality HD channels can be added for every broadcast mexican channel shutdown.

TWC logic to your additional HD channel idea.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/04-02-2008/0004785471&EDATE=

Anyone else getting KCAL 9 HD right now on the TWC clear QAM....in SPANISH?

The most logical way to add HD channels without having to do system upgrades is to shut down the Mexican and other foreign language channels. 2 high quality HD channels can be added for every broadcast mexican channel shutdown.

While I understand and agree with you TWC is still a business and I'm sure they have proof that their demographic in So Cal wants and will support all the alternate language channels. A good compromise would be to move more of the analog channels to the digital tier and free up space that way. Seriously, why does WGN need to be on an analog channel?

Anyone else getting KCAL 9 HD right now on the TWC clear QAM....in SPANISH?

Check you SAP settings!

Check you SAP settings!

I would, if the TV card could do SAP!

Edit: Actually, it does...so THAT'S what that little button on Aver Media Center is for......

My bill is getting out of hand...thinking about Fios out here in Moorpark.

I received a flyer from TWC in the mail today.

Here in SoCal they are adding more HD channels soon.

No date is given, but the flyer states:

"Get ready to watch History, Disney, and Food Network in HD and MORE COMING SOON"

COMING SOON...
Food Network HD
A&E HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
National Geographic HD
History HD
Vs HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
HGTV HD
ESPNEWS HD

I am also receiving KDOC-HD via QAM (Good Morning OC is in HD). They must be testing still as it comes and goes from my SA8300 guide (channel 456).

Yup, I got the same flyer today. I am in Ventura.

My bill is getting out of hand...thinking about Fios out here in Moorpark.

FIOS? I thought all Moorpark was AT&T. Do tell.....

I received a flyer from TWC in the mail today.

Here in SoCal they are adding more HD channels soon.

No date is given, but the flyer states:

"Get ready to watch History, Disney, and Food Network in HD and MORE COMING SOON"

COMING SOON...
Food Network HD
A&E HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
National Geographic HD
History HD
Vs HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
HGTV HD
ESPNEWS HD

I am also receiving KDOC-HD via QAM (Good Morning OC is in HD). They must be testing still as it comes and goes from my SA8300 guide (channel 456).

Yup, I got the same flyer today. I am in Ventura.
Congrats to you guys in Ventura and OC. No such thing here in the city, where we are in the former Adelphia regions.
FIOS? I thought all Moorpark was AT&T. Do tell.....
ATT has a fiber product they monkey copied from verizon called UVerse.

Rudy

Curious about something. How far south (geographically) does TWC-SoCal services extend? To the Orange County line? Beyond the OC line?

If it extends into Orange County, could you get an overlap of TWC-SoCal and Cox Orange County service and be able to choose a provider?

FYI, I'm in the San Diego area, so I'm hosted/supported by a different TWC division.

Curious about something. How far south (geographically) does TWC-SoCal services extend? To the Orange County line? Beyond the OC line?

If it extends into Orange County, could you get an overlap of TWC-SoCal and Cox Orange County service and be able to choose a provider?

FYI, I'm in the San Diego area, so I'm hosted/supported by a different TWC division.

SoCal map: http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/customer/contactus/default.html?menu=CustomerService

edit addition: I don't think any house has a choice (exclusive agrrements in all cities). Some edges of cities use another city's authorized cable service (e.g., SouthEast edge of Orange (TWC city) uses Tustin (Cox?)).

I received a flyer from TWC in the mail today.

Here in SoCal they are adding more HD channels soon.

No date is given, but the flyer states:

"Get ready to watch History, Disney, and Food Network in HD and MORE COMING SOON"

COMING SOON...
Food Network HD
A&E HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
National Geographic HD
History HD
Vs HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
HGTV HD
ESPNEWS HD

I am also receiving KDOC-HD via QAM (Good Morning OC is in HD). They must be testing still as it comes and goes from my SA8300 guide (channel 456).
Sounds like the e-mail I got a couple weeks ago (no flyer yet). Talking to a person that works with the local TWC VP (see my other message and another person on here mentioned an office said same) looks like August for many of them being added and end of year for the rest. Suspect some will appear sooner as they add them. Is somewhat encouraging finally. /Dan

Congrats to you guys in Ventura and OC. No such thing here in the city, where we are in the former Adelphia regions.

ATT has a fiber product they monkey copied from Verizon called UVerse.

Rudy

Ventura County is former Adelphia. Must be uVerse he's talking about, they were hawking it around here a few weeks back. AT&T weren't interested in providing DSL here, screw 'em.

Congrats to you guys in Ventura and OC. No such thing here in the city, where we are in the former Adelphia regions.


I received the flyer and I am in a former Adelphia area.

I got a letter from TWC the other day saying they were going to be working in my area soon and might cause brief outages during the day. They didn't say what day, just that I'd be getting another flyer the day before work commences. I wondered if that had anything to do with the new HD channels.

Holy crap, I hope we don't have to wait until August. Only reason I'm with TWC instead of DirecTV is so that I can use a TiVo HD, but if they can't do anything to start closing the gap between their HD offerings and DirecTV's before August I may have to start reconsidering my options.

Are any of you using a Denon AVR hooked up to the Moto 3416? I'm having weird audio and video dropouts with this new DVR (3808CI) and I'm wondering if it's just me. It happens whenever I switch from DVD or and other function over to the TV/Cable on the AVR. TV, AVR and Moto connnected with HDMI. Any and all advice appreciated. Thanks.

409 went off in the O.C. at 12:30pm or so and still is blank...whazzup....I called a friend in Garden Grove and she also does not have 409...

looks like August for many of them being added and end of year for the rest.August? End of the year? Ugh.

Hey Time Warner, how about giving us USA HD or Sci Fi HD?

Also, I'm very curious as to what they intend to do with this new equipment they're deploying. They're completely re-deploying to 1ghz C capable C-COR stuff around here. I watched them rip out everything on our street, it was like when they first went to two-way cablemodem service. This has gotta be a massively expensive undertaking.

Our current cablemodems and cable boxes can't even utilize that new space. DOCSIS 3 cablemodems might make sense, except Time Warner has gone on record saying they think current broadband speeds are "good enough".

-- Rob

if i upgrade to digital cable will i have to get a box for all my TVs or can i just keep using the coax directly from the wall for my SDTVs? i only have 1 HDTV and i want to get more HD channels other than the ones i can pick up with the QAM tuner but i would have to upgrade to digital cable to do so.

if i upgrade to digital cable will i have to get a box for all my TVs or can i just keep using the coax directly from the wall for my SDTVs? i only have 1 HDTV and i want to get more HD channels other than the ones i can pick up with the QAM tuner but i would have to upgrade to digital cable to do so.
No change on the TVs without a box (same analog channels, and some HD QAM channels if the TV has the tuner). In fact, one thing I never figured out is if you get a box for a second TV (or more) they add on a "digital programming fee" extra cost ($2.50 each) for the TVs/boxes beyond the first one. I guess they must pay the channel providers by the deployed boxes and not by the households. Keeps me from getting some boxes on more TVs even if I was willing to pay the rent on the extra box. Dan

409 went off in the O.C. at 12:30pm or so and still is blank...whazzup....I called a friend in Garden Grove and she also does not have 409...Been off 'Over the Air' also. Can't blame TWC on this one. Dan

Been off 'Over the Air' also. Can't blame TWC on this one. Dan

It went off here at about 12:30 on TW but was back for the 2PM news.

Sounds like the e-mail I got a couple weeks ago (no flyer yet). Talking to a person that works with the local TWC VP (see my other message and another person on here mentioned an office said same) looks like August for many of them being added and end of year for the rest. Suspect some will appear sooner as they add them. Is somewhat encouraging finally. /Dan

LOL. Ok, so whenever someone says they hear certain month from a TW person, we can just add 3 months to that. So, in August we should hear November.

God I hate TWC.

LOL. Ok, so whenever someone says they hear certain month from a TW person, we can just add 3 months to that. So, in August we should hear November.

God I hate TWC.

Add a few months ... and a few bucks, too?

Well if you guys remember a while back we were talking about Fox building a brand new all HD broadcast center in Houston. Now it appears to be done and Fox made an announcement that starting in 2009 all of their content will be in HD. At this point this is hard to believe of course, so many of us are in the "I'll believe it when I see it camp" but none the less. Here is a link to the thread that points to the announcement and discusses it.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1030944

Rudy

I got a letter from TWC the other day saying they were going to be working in my area soon and might cause brief outages during the day. They didn't say what day, just that I'd be getting another flyer the day before work commences. I wondered if that had anything to do with the new HD channels.

Holy crap
A 3hr outage(maybe) between 4:00a.m.-6:00p.m.

Are any of you using a Denon AVR hooked up to the Moto 3416? I'm having weird audio and video dropouts with this new DVR (3808CI) and I'm wondering if it's just me. It happens whenever I switch from DVD or and other function over to the TV/Cable on the AVR. TV, AVR and Moto connnected with HDMI. Any and all advice appreciated. Thanks.

I have the same receiver / cable box with same problems. I feed everything through my Denon and out via HDMI to my TV. I occasionally get video dropouts that last a few seconds while the audio still plays. The screen goes black and then syncs back up.
This doesn't happen with my other devices, so I know it's related to my cable box. I'm using an expensive Monster Cable too, so not sure why it still drops video. Again, it only happens for 10 seconds and every-so-often.

"Get ready to watch History, Disney, and Food Network in HD and MORE COMING SOON"
Sounds like the e-mail I got a couple weeks ago (no flyer yet). Talking to a person that works with the local TWC VP (see my other message and another person on here mentioned an office said same) looks like August for many of them being added and end of year for the rest. Suspect some will appear sooner as they add them. Is somewhat encouraging finally. /Dan
They are now advertising that these channels are part of TWC's HD package on their TV ads. One would thinkthat these will be active before August. I'm hopeful at least.

Los Angeles HDTV owners with cable service have limited choices
Time Warner provides far fewer HD channels in Los Angeles than in other major cities.
By Alana Semuels, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer, May 27, 2008

Pity the Los Angeles residents who lug home pricey high-definition television sets, only to find that most of their shows don't look much better.

The entertainment capital of the world ranks last among the five biggest U.S. markets in the number of high-definition channels available to cable-TV subscribers. New York, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia all get far more, as do such smaller cities as San Diego and Charlotte, N.C.

Southern California's No. 1 pay-TV provider, Time Warner Cable Inc., can't improve its systems fast enough to keep up with demand for the sharper pictures of high-definition.

The company, which serves 1.9 million customers across Southern California, has promised to add 12 high-definition channels by July 1, and nine more by the end of the year, but cynical subscribers aren't buying it.

On High Def Forum, a website for HD enthusiasts, local residents mocked Time Warner's announcement this month that new channels would come soon, saying they had heard that talk before. Some customers have complained to the company, while others have left it for satellite rivals.

If someone shells out $1,000 or more for a television with better resolution, it seems he would want programming to match. Scott Benson, a 27-year-old Los Feliz resident, loves the crystal-clear images on his 42-inch Sony and thinks regular television is like watching "with Vaseline on the screen."

Time Warner's high-definition channel lineup disappoints Benson. And his apartment building forbids satellite dishes, so he can't switch to satellite-TV providers DirectTV or Dish Network, which offer far more high-definition channels, for sharper versions of Discovery, CNN, A&E and others.

"It makes you feel trapped," Benson said. For TV, he would be better off moving back in with his mom in a suburb of Boston, where she receives twice as many high-definition channels from Comcast Corp.

In the Los Angeles metropolitan area, 1.5 million households own high-definition televisions, and 80% of them receive at least one high-definition channel, according to Nielsen Co., a research firm. (An HDTV set also displays regular programming, although no more sharply than a regular television.)

Time Warner offers 16 high-definition channels to Benson and other basic-cable subscribers in the L.A. area. Its customers get 38 HD channels in San Antonio, 23 in San Diego and Dallas, 22 in New York and 18 in Charlotte, N.C.

In south Orange County, Cox Communications Inc. offers 36 high-definition basic channels, while Charter Communications Inc. offers 21 in Long Beach and 20 in the Inland Empire and San Gabriel Valley.

San Diego resident Kylan Mandile, 27, switched to DirecTV from Time Warner two months ago. He and his roommate decided it was worth an extra $30 a month so they could see more high-definition sports and HBO on their 42-inch Panasonic TV.

"Once you're used to watching HD, it's hard to go back," Mandile said.

Time Warner became the dominant cable-TV provider in the Greater Los Angeles area in mid-2006, when it joined with Comcast to buy out bankrupt Adelphia Communications Corp. Then Time Warner swapped franchises with Comcast so each would have dominant markets in different parts of the U.S.

The combination proved costly because Time Warner Cable had to revamp and upgrade Adelphia's and Comcast's old franchises and meld them with its own. Customers swamped call centers with complaints about Internet and e-mail outages, TV channel lineup changes and, especially, the hours they spent on hold to fix things.

"In the last stages of Adelphia's existence, they were bleeding money," said analyst Kurt Scherf at Parks Associates, a consulting and research firm. "They were putting very little into infrastructure upgrades."

Satellite provider DirectTV offers 32 high-definition channels as part of its basic package and Dish Network offers 28. Meanwhile, telecommunications provider Verizon Communications Inc. is installing a fiber-optic network that it calls FiOS, with 32 high-def channels and plans for 150 basic and premium HD channels by the end of the year.

But Verizon offers FiOS only in cities where it provides phone service; in California that's mainly along the coast, along the San Gabriel River and in the Inland Empire.

The cable companies have their own territories, too, and don't compete against one another. Many renters, such as Benson, are forbidden from installing a satellite dish.

That means Time Warner isn't feeling the heat from strong competitors offering more channels, as it is in markets such as San Antonio, Scherf said.

Time Warner spokeswoman Robyn Watson said the company "does take customers' requests into consideration," and blamed the problem on "integration issues we inherited from Adelphia and Comcast."

Promises of more high-definition channels are the most effective way to lure cable subscribers to satellite TV, said Martin Olausson, director of digital media strategy for Strategy Analytics, a research and consulting firm.

In addition to considering the total number of channels offered, he said, "people switching from cable to satellite often quote the number of HD channels as the main reason."

Phillip Swann, president of TvPredictions.com, a website that tracks the high-definition TV industry, said cable operators were "loath to spend money to upgrade things until they absolutely have to." In the case of Time Warner, he said, the pressure would come only if a rival like Verizon were to start offering HD channels in the L.A. area.

Verizon doesn't serve the city; AT&T Inc. does, and the nation's largest phone company is installing a combination fiber-copper network for pay-TV service.

In the meantime, Swann said, discontented HDTV owners might spread the word about their unhappiness, leading to a slowdown in sales of such televisions.

"You just don't get the same positive word of mouth you would get it if you brought it home and have tons of channels," he said.

Benson, the Los Feliz resident, complained to Time Warner in a recent e-mail.

"I have become tired of browsing the same HD channels over the past few months when your competitors are adding HD channels at much faster rates," he wrote. "It hurts me to spend all the money on an HDTV and not be able to watch some of my favorite shows."

A Time Warner customer service representative called a few hours later, apologized and promised Benson he would get more HD channels soon. And the representative gave Benson a year's subscription to Showtime, a premium channel, for free. Benson was relieved to hear it was in high-definition -- but he still has fewer HD channels than his mom.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hdtv27-2008may27,0,318563,print.story

Los Angeles HDTV owners with cable service have limited choices - thanks Fred!

"integration issues we inherited from Adelphia and Comcast"

They didn't realize the former Adelphia area was made up of a group of dissimilar systems held together by bailing wire operating different platforms. Enough with the buyer's remorse. Step up and deliver the world-class service promised almost 22 months ago. in the meantime respect existing subscribers by reflecting the true value of what is currently delivered by reducing subscriptions a sufficient amount to reflect a rational price.

in the meantime respect existing subscribers by reflecting the true value of what is currently delivered by reducing subscriptions a sufficient amount to reflect a rational price.

Word.

FIOS is now available in my neighborhood...it's damn tempting.

pj

Enough with the buyer's remorse. Step up and deliver the world-class service promised almost 22 months ago. In the meantime respect existing subscribers by reflecting the true value of what is currently delivered by reducing subscriptions a sufficient amount to reflect a rational price.

Well said. I bailed on TW's TV nearly three months ago for Direct (kept the Broadcast tier for my garage, dining room and HD card in the PC) and don't regret it one bit. I got fed up with waiting for "jam tomorrow" plus, you should have heard the incredulity I was greeted with when I asked if they had any plans to carry Setanta Sports. As stated above, they've had this system now for nearly two years and done nothing with it. The "inherited" excuse doesn't cut it any more.

In case you don't do old-school paper, that story made the front page of the Times! I especially liked how they pointed out that someone who complained got a free year of showtime. That ought to get people calling.

Is anyone else getting espnnews HD on channel 425 right now? Normally, channel 425 (at least in Ventura) is ESPN2 HD. I heard we might be getting espnnews in HD sometime soon- maybe they're testing it? IDK, but I hope it's a sign of more HD channels to come (I guess it's time warner we're talking about so "I'll believe it when I see it")

Is anyone else getting espnnews HD on channel 425 right now? Normally, channel 425 (at least in Ventura) is ESPN2 HD. I heard we might be getting espnnews in HD sometime soon- maybe they're testing it? IDK, but I hope it's a sign of more HD channels to come (I guess it's time warner we're talking about so "I'll believe it when I see it")
They show ESPNews instead when the show on ESPN (or ESPN2) is blacked out here. Would need to look at the schedule, but probably an Angels, Dodgers, Hockey or Basketball game that was also showing on another local channel. /Dan

Anyone know what QAM channel KTLA (WB) is on in north Orange County? I'm in Anaheim and it used to be 54.2 (On a Sharp HDTV) but know it's KCAL. I can't seem to find it. I did notice that I'm getting other HDTV channels via unencrypted QAM (ESPN, etc) but they have no sound.

Anyone know what QAM channel KTLA (WB) is on in north Orange County? I'm in Anaheim and it used to be 54.2 (On a Sharp HDTV) but know it's KCAL. I can't seem to find it. I did notice that I'm getting other HDTV channels via unencrypted QAM (ESPN, etc) but they have no sound.

KTLA is 54.1 now. Yes, ESPN and MOjo (102.2) with no sounds.

I got the letter couple weeks ago and a phone call a couple days ago about being in the area working on the TWC lines. Neighbor talked a bit with the guy working yesterday. Lineman mentioned they were adding 1 Meg. I am assuming that is 1 Mb of capacity (1MHz of bandwidth is too small) so there should be room for 50+ channels in HD.

TWC had told me the HD channels they have been advertising would be going by Aug 1 with more by end of year. The LA Times article seems to say July 1. So, maybe we are getting close to some HD additions in the So Cal area.

/Dan

Hh! They are advertising on some channels that TWC has more HD channels than satellite systems. Perhaps we should contact the FTC for false advertising? <bg>

Lineman mentioned they were adding 1 Meg. I am assuming that is 1 Mb of capacity
He meant 1ghz (existing systems are 850mhz or less). They're completely re-deploying the LA systems with new C-COR nodes and gear all over LA. They have been for the last few months. Unfortunately, our current cable boxes cannot access the new spectrum that this gear offers. Only DOCIS 3.0 cablemodems and newer MPEG-4 cable boxes can utilize it.

Only DOCIS 3.0 cablemodems and newer MPEG-4 cable boxes can utilize it.Where does the line start?
;)

... Lineman mentioned they were adding 1 Meg. I am assuming that is 1 Mb of capacity (1MHz of bandwidth is too small) so there should be room for 50+ channels in HD.

/Dan

It has to be 1Ghz, you are correct that it can't be 1Mhz but it also can't be 1Mb. I forget the figures but each HD channel consumes far more than that bandwidth.

Hh! They are advertising on some channels that TWC has more HD channels than satellite systems. Perhaps we should contact the FTC for false advertising? <bg>They are saying that they have more "free" HD channels. That just means that TWC gives you HD locals with the basic package and the rest of their anemic lineup is on their extra-cost HD Tier, while with satellite the much larger HD lineup is all on the HD Tier.

So hey, look how much satellite sucks. They have no free HD channels. :rolleyes:

Which system does TWC use? My new TV needs to know for both analog and digital. I haven't a clue and am hoping someone here does. Thanks.

Man, QAM is a mess this morning....ABC and FOX are completely off the map and the ones that are still showing up like KCET have no video or audio?? Anyone know what's up??

Man, QAM is a mess this morning....ABC and FOX are completely off the map and the ones that are still showing up like KCET have no video or audio?? Anyone know what's up??

AOK in West LA.

Man, QAM is a mess this morning....ABC and FOX are completely off the map and the ones that are still showing up like KCET have no video or audio?? Anyone know what's up??


Those Qam channels are fine for us here in the O.C. but KCAL HD is again missing in action...409 is problematic..no sign of any new stations they promised us...what a surprise...:D

AOK in West LA.

Same here.

Well I spoke too soon....this morning my QAM also is crazy...at first I had no CBS...NBC...ABC...FOX....KCAL....did a scan and CBS and NBC came back but Fox, ABC, KCAL are still MIA.... the totally weird thing is when I go to 11-1 my Fox.. ABC channel 7 in sd shows up in its place.... I have two HD tv's and both of them are exhibiting the same thing...wonder what's up....I called a friend and she too is having a QAM problem...I am in Westminster, Calif...she is in Garden Grove so it wide spread...

Still all jacked up here...only two showing up were KTLA at 5.1 and one of the PBS stations. All the others I could still tune to, but no picture or sound...I'm scanning now too to see what happens...

UPDATE: Got CBS 2.1, and NBC 4.1 back, but I am still completely missing ABC, KCAL, and FOX....very weird.

Anyone know anything about this? Think this will improve our service?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cable5-2008jun05,0,1794603.story

No, but if the City wins, we'll be the ones paying for it.

As of this morning I am still missing ABC, KCAL,FOX, on my Qam...when you put in 11-1 the local FOX Qam channel up pops ABC sd...very strange.....also anyone have any idea as to where the new HD channels will reside...if we get them as promised that is...I too read that article in the Times..my opinion is that it will make no difference at all..they will just shrug and say go to someone else ..it's as if the customers come last in everything...when I had ComCast maybe I called twice for repair in the 8 years I had them...I have called TW about 10x in 3 years...what's that tell you....

it keeps getting weirder.....after I wrote the last post I tried something....I have two HDtv's with Qam tuners...one I had scanned to get back a couple of missing channels and one I did not...just for the hell of it I pushed 0 on the channel on the one I had not scanned...up popped FoxHD....huh?....I ran to the other one I had scanned and tried it...no go...0 gave me sd channels..as I scrolled the channels I got 0-2 CBS in sd...0-4 NBC in sd etc. this is weird....obviously I have wayyyyy too much time on my hands....LOL....anyone else have success.....I recorded 2 things on my DVR which leaves me the Qam for watching tv in HD so this is frustrating....

Eagle Rock headend has had PPV on channels 112-1 to 10,113-1 to 10,114-1 to 10 & 115-1 to 10 for years now and it's often amusing to look in on the local PPV being watched.They must have moved them because all those channels have been blank for the last couple of days.Does anyone know where they moved them?

Eagle Rock headend has had PPV on channels 112-1 to 10,113-1 to 10,114-1 to 10 & 115-1 to 10 for years now and it's often amusing to look in on the local PPV being watched.They must have moved them because all those channels have been blank for the last couple of days.Does anyone know where they moved them?

theyre gone for me too. i havent seen anything broadcast on them for a couple weeks already. i used to flip the channels at night and someone would always be watching porn.

Wow I can't believe how this company sucks. I am coming from Chicago, IL Comcast and
this service is so bad it makes me want to get DirecTV. Well lets start off on the HD side.
The HD channels are overly compressed when they don't even have a lot of HD offerings.
You can actually see it over pixelating like YouTube videos. Comcast back then has a lot
of HD channels and you rarely see it when in motion only in still. The SD channel aspect
ratio are screwed up. If I stretch my image to full on my TV some SD channel fill it up while
others has about an inch of blank space on the right side. On Demand is so lack luster, I
don't even bother going in it. Their cable boxes are old and outdated. Everything is so
downgraded, even our internet. The only thing I liked about this communication company
is their remote. While the layout sucked compare to Comcast, it has backlit <_<. I am
so fed up, I am thinking of getting DirecTV. The only thing that is stopping me is that
ugly satellite dish.

We had a short outage that lasted about half an hour, started around 12:30AM. The TV went out but not the internet. This doesnt happen often though.

Also I just noticed some duplicated channels between Ch. 860 and 899.

Well lets start off on the HD side. The HD channels are overly compressed when they don't even have a lot of HD offerings. You can actually see it over pixelating like YouTube videos.Can you be more specific as to what channels you're talking about? If you're referring to TBS-HD or TNT-HD, the problem is not with TWC as a provider. It's the source.

If you're talking about local networks, I don't believe TWC does any additional compression (unlike what D* and E* do). It just passes through the signal received from the broadcasters.

Assuming you have an HD-DVR, is it the SA8300 or the Motorola 3416? My nephew lives in Chicago/Comcast and I'm quite sure he has the same Motorola box (maybe a 6416) so I don't see that a 3416 would be considered a downgrade. Frankly, I personally prefer my 3416 to an SA8300.

Again, please specify exactly what HD channels and what programs you're watching that have pixelization problems.


The SD channel aspect ratio are screwed up. If I stretch my image to full on my TV some SD channel fill it up while others has about an inch of blank space on the right side.Again, can you be specific?

Also, what type of HDTV do you have? Are you watching SD channels via S-video or component or HDMI/DVI?

Are you "stretching" or "zooming" SD channels, and if so which zoom mode? Personally I prefer to watch SD channels in un-stretched 4:3 (so that people look normal and I see all of the picture with nothing cropped) but to each his own.


On Demand is so lack luster, I don't even bother going in it.I can't comment, since I never use it but my only complaint is that HBO and SHO don't have their On-Demand available in HD.


Their cable boxes are old and outdated.Moto 3416 isn't old, it's the latest model. And as I said earlier, the same boxes are used in my nephew's Chicago/Comcast area. Now if you got an SA8300, well that's a different matter although it has the advantage of supporting an external SATA drive for greatly increased capacity. On the other hand, the Moto 3416 box has a working firewire port for offloading/archiving to D-VHS (which is critical for my needs).


Everything is so downgraded, even our internet.Don't know what service you have, but I have 10MB/s download speed (Turbo service), with 6MB/s being standard. Is that not fast enough for you? What did Chicago/Comcast offer?

I am so fed up, I am thinking of getting DirecTV. The only thing that is stopping me is that
ugly satellite dish.... but HD-Lite doesn't bother you? Huh?

Eagle Rock headend has had PPV on channels 112-1 to 10,113-1 to 10,114-1 to 10 & 115-1 to 10 for years now and it's often amusing to look in on the local PPV being watched.They must have moved them because all those channels have been blank for the last couple of days.Does anyone know where they moved them?

I don't think they moved them, I think they finally scrambled them. I have an ATSC tuner card in my computer and it shows that those channels still have data coming out of them. It's just that the audio and video streams are not valid. As far as I can tell, they started scrambling the channels early morning on the 10th. -- I got a valid recording at 4:45am, but at 6:42am the data was scrambled. :(

theyre gone for me too. i havent seen anything broadcast on them for a couple weeks already. i used to flip the channels at night and someone would always be watching porn.
I hope and pray they do this for me in West LA. I realize I'm in a huge minority, however, I've never liked seeing that kind of stuff pop up out of nowhere, and always thought it should have been scrambled from the beginning. If what you guys are saying is true then kudos to TWC. First for NFL network and now for this. I'll do a channel scan later on today, although we get our changes dead last, on everything it seems.

Rudy

Can you be more specific as to what channels you're talking about? If you're referring to TBS-HD or TNT-HD, the problem is not with TWC as a provider. It's the source.

I am talking about HDT, MOJO, MHD, and UHD.


If you're talking about local networks, I don't believe TWC does any additional compression (unlike what D* and E* do). It just passes through the signal received from the broadcasters.
Trust me, the pixelation is hell compare to any provider I had. Plus they have
no excuse since they have no variety of HD channels.

Assuming you have an HD-DVR, is it the SA8300 or the Motorola 3416? My nephew lives in Chicago/Comcast and I'm quite sure he has the same Motorola box (maybe a 6416) so I don't see that a 3416 would be considered a downgrade. Frankly, I personally prefer my 3416 to an SA8300.

I do have HD-DVR. It's 1 tuner. I used to have dual tuner DVR Moto Phase III.
I asked if they have dual tuner HD-DVR, they said no.

Again, please specify exactly what HD channels and what programs you're watching that have pixelization problems.

See above


Again, can you be specific?

Also, what type of HDTV do you have? Are you watching SD channels via S-video or component or HDMI/DVI?

I am using HDMI and already tried component and the same thing.

Are you "stretching" or "zooming" SD channels, and if so which zoom mode? Personally I prefer to watch SD channels in un-stretched 4:3 (so that people look normal and I see all of the picture with nothing cropped) but to each his own.

Not just stretching the picture. If you press info, a mini guide pops up and
that area right there is full 4:3 aspect ratio. Some channels fill it up and
covers the whole area and some leaves a blank space on the right. Not just
that, the grayscale is screwed up. Blacks are gray on SD but HD is fine.



Moto 3416 isn't old, it's the latest model. And as I said earlier, the same boxes are used in my nephew's Chicago/Comcast area. Now if you got an SA8300, well that's a different matter although it has the advantage of supporting an external SATA drive for greatly increased capacity. On the other hand, the Moto 3416 box has a working firewire port for offloading/archiving to D-VHS (which is critical for my needs).

I don't know the exact model number. All I know I used Motorola Dual Tuner
HD-DVR Phase III when I am on Comcast.

Don't know what service you have, but I have 10MB/s download speed (Turbo service), with 6MB/s being standard. Is that not fast enough for you? What did Chicago/Comcast offer?
Yes, 6MB/s for standard while Chicago/Comcast offer 10MB/s for standard.

... but HD-Lite doesn't bother you? Huh?
I'd rather have lower resolution and have decent HD channels and right
aspect ratio on 4:3 than crappy service, little HD channels, and pixelation.


By the way, I am using Pioneer Elite Kuro Plasma HDTV 1080p and
Sony CRT HDTV 1080i for my sources. I am not hooked up to receiver
as of now because I might blame the receiver for all of this so I know
it's the provider.

I am talking about HDT, MOJO, MHD, and UHD.Personally, I think these channels themselves are responsible, through low-bitrate content delivery to TWC. Certainly MOJO and MHD would have to be considered "off-brands" and I have never been impressed with their HD quality.

Incidentally, MOJO is a relatively recent incarnation when INHD1 and INHD2 re-branded as a single channel when they were probably losing too much money as two stations. They were originally "sponsored" by a consortium of cable companies and had no advertising but rather ran as a "free HD channel perk" available only to cable systems, as I recall (never watched very much on them even before MOJO). Again, I don't think this is a big commercial money-making operation even now, and low-quality from them is not a surprise.


Plus they have no excuse since they have no variety of HD channels.I'm not trying to defend their currently limited selection of HD channels, the number of which have certainly exploded in the past year on D* and E* (especially with the absorption of VOOM) as many more cable networks have started providing HD duplicates of their SD content. Hey, I'd like them as much as you would.

But I guess it took time for TWC to work out the contracts, since D* and E* seemed to have had the big jump. I believe marketing material and flyers from TWC suggest our first "leap forward" in HD will be coming by August, with a second jump toward the end of the year.

I hope these rumors are true, and that we see another 30 or so HD channels very soon. I'm on your side here, believe me.


I do have HD-DVR. It's 1 tuner. I used to have dual tuner DVR Moto Phase III. I asked if they have dual tuner HD-DVR, they said no.Huh?

I wasn't aware that they didn't have anything but dual-duner DVRs. The Moto Phase III you're describing is the 6416 Phase III, which is the older "original" analog/digital version of the new current all-digital 3416. And in MDR, which used to be served by both Comcast and Adelphia, the Comcast area (where I live) has ALWAYS had Moto equipment, either non-DVR 6208 or dual-tuner original 6412 or later 6416-II and then 6416-III. Now it has dual-tuner 3416. I believe the Adelphia areas might have had dual-tuner SA8300 DVRs.

I think the very very old Moto BMC "MOXI" DVRs were single-tuner, but I thought they were retired. Do you know what brand and model single-tuner DVR you have? I'd scream bloody murder to them until they got you a dual-tuner modern Moto DVR. Unacceptable situation for you to have that old "MOXI" brand equipment, I agree. But quite surprising to me. I may be wrong, however, on your equipment (as I've never had anything but a dual-tuner box) although many people were hysterical to get their old MOXI boxes (which they'd gotten used to) changed into new dual-tuner Moto equipment which were "different" and didn't work the same way as the MOXI.

Call a "honcho", and bull your way up the line. I'm sure they get 3416 boxes turned in daily for re-use.


By the way, I am using Pioneer Elite Kuro Plasma HDTV 1080p and Sony CRT HDTV 1080i for my sources. I am not hooked up to receiver as of now because I might blame the receiver for all of this so I know it's the provider.I suspect it's your old single-tuner DVR equipment which is totally at fault here, for any SD-related stretching or mis-presentation of SD channels in various zoom modes from your HDTVs via HDMI or component.

As far as the 6MB/s "standard", well I know that IO Cable in NYC also has 10MB/s as their "standard". I'd been living with 6MB/s until early this year when I decided to terminate my second phone line from TWC ($25/month) and upgrade my Internet service to 10MB/s Turbo ($10/month), saving a little money in the deal. Perhaps they will someday decide to yield to market pressures and change "standard" to 10MB/s to be competitive with national norms, but I'm just happy I can at least get it.

Incidentally, Charter areas still have 3MB/s as their "standard". And Comcast originally had 3MB/s "standard" as well, which was suddenly doubled to 6MB/s for marketing reasons. When TWC took over they kept the Comcast 6MB/s policy, offering 10MB/s Turbo as an fairly inexpensive option. But I'd take 10MB/s for free, if they offered it to me!


I'd scream and scream until I got a modern dual-tuner DVR, and then see what your HD/SD picture looks like.

Personally, I think these channels themselves are responsible, through low-bitrate content delivery to TWC. Certainly MOJO and MHD would have to be considered "off-brands" and I have never been impressed with their HD quality.

Incidentally, MOJO is a relatively recent incarnation when INHD1 and INHD2 re-branded as a single channel when they were probably losing too much money as two stations. They were originally "sponsored" by a consortium of cable companies and had no advertising but rather ran as a "free HD channel perk" available only to cable systems, as I recall (never watched very much on them even before MOJO). Again, I don't think this is a big commercial money-making operation even now, and low-quality from them is not a surprise.


I'm not trying to defend their currently limited selection of HD channels, the number of which have certainly exploded in the past year on D* and E* (especially with the absorption of VOOM) as many more cable networks have started providing HD duplicates of their SD content. Hey, I'd like them as much as you would.

But I guess it took time for TWC to work out the contracts, since D* and E* seemed to have had the big jump. I believe marketing material and flyers from TWC suggest our first "leap forward" in HD will be coming by August, with a second jump toward the end of the year.

I hope these rumors are true, and that we see another 30 or so HD channels very soon. I'm on your side here, believe me.


Huh?

I wasn't aware that they didn't have anything but dual-duner DVRs. The Moto Phase III you're describing is the 6416 Phase III, which is the older "original" analog/digital version of the new current all-digital 3416. And in MDR, which used to be served by both Comcast and Adelphia, the Comcast area (where I live) has ALWAYS had Moto equipment, either non-DVR 6208 or dual-tuner original 6412 or later 6416-II and then 6416-III. Now it has dual-tuner 3416. I believe the Adelphia areas might have had dual-tuner SA8300 DVRs.

I think the very very old Moto BMC "MOXI" DVRs were single-tuner, but I thought they were retired. Do you know what brand and model single-tuner DVR you have? I'd scream bloody murder to them until they got you a dual-tuner modern Moto DVR. Unacceptable situation for you to have that old "MOXI" brand equipment, I agree. But quite surprising to me. I may be wrong, however, on your equipment (as I've never had anything but a dual-tuner box) although many people were hysterical to get their old MOXI boxes (which they'd gotten used to) changed into new dual-tuner Moto equipment which were "different" and didn't work the same way as the MOXI.

Call a "honcho", and bull your way up the line. I'm sure they get 3416 boxes turned in daily for re-use.


I suspect it's your old single-tuner DVR equipment which is totally at fault here, for any SD-related stretching or mis-presentation of SD channels in various zoom modes from your HDTVs via HDMI or component.

As far as the 6MB/s "standard", well I know that IO Cable in NYC also has 10MB/s as their "standard". I'd been living with 6MB/s until early this year when I decided to terminate my second phone line from TWC ($25/month) and upgrade my Internet service to 10MB/s Turbo ($10/month), saving a little money in the deal. Perhaps they will someday decide to yield to market pressures and change "standard" to 10MB/s to be competitive with national norms, but I'm just happy I can at least get it.

Incidentally, Charter areas still have 3MB/s as their "standard". And Comcast originally had 3MB/s "standard" as well, which was suddenly doubled to 6MB/s for marketing reasons. When TWC took over they kept the Comcast 6MB/s policy, offering 10MB/s Turbo as an fairly inexpensive option. But I'd take 10MB/s for free, if they offered it to me!


I'd scream and scream until I got a modern dual-tuner DVR, and then see what your HD/SD picture looks like.

I think it will fix the aspect ratio on 4:3 SD channels when I do get the newer
dual tuner HD-DVR and also the grayscale. But I really don't think it will fix the
compression issue I am seeing. If I am not satisfied with the service after the
dual tuner HD-DVR, I am cancelling the cable and phone and upgrading the
internet to 10MB/s and switch to DirecTV and VoIP.

I don't know if someone else noticed this yet but.. Channel 4 (KNBC) is finally broadcasting their news in HD. Now if only they had HD cameras out in the field, like KABC, that would only leave KTTV as the only ones who have not gone HD on their news.

They haven't officially launched it yet, it should be fully live by the end of the month.

.......

I hope these rumors are true, and that we see another 30 or so HD channels very soon. I'm on your side here, believe me.
...........
I'm sorry DSperber but I just had to comment on this. There is absolutely no way, that TWC can offer this many HD channels before a decade from now. Yes that is 10 years. No way. Maybe somewhere on the east coast in their test markets where SDV is deployed and networks are all upgraded and such. Maybe, perhaps ..... But here that's laughable. I'm a bit stunned to hear that you would actually believe something like that. If any channels do show up it will be within the next 2 Years or so and even then it will be less than a dozen. If that.

Rudy

hmm 10 years is a long time. I was told that SDV would be coming to Orange county soon. and thats talking to an Engineer in the head office. also i though that once feb 2008 come when all the analog channels go then you can add HD channels maybe 2 or 3 for every analog channel. well here in LA/OC there must be about 30 analog channels

I recorded the Tony Awards here in Santa Clarita. I am now watching but it is not in HD. I have wide black side borders.

Did anyone see/record this in HD?

hmm 10 years is a long time. I was told that SDV would be coming to Orange county soon. and thats talking to an Engineer in the head office. also i though that once feb 2008 come when all the analog channels go then you can add HD channels maybe 2 or 3 for every analog channel. well here in LA/OC there must be about 30 analog channels
Hi edwarto.

OC is definitely on a different schedule from LA, as far as HD channels availability goes. My guess would be since the OC network was built later it is slightly more advanced and has a bit higher bandwidth. This is all just a guess.

As far as analog, my understanding is that TWC is being forced to continue carrying Analog channels for at least three more years after the February 2009 date. So there will be no sudden bandwidth availability, at least until then. At least these are the bits of info I had been able to gather reading these here forums.

Rudy

why would they be forced too ? TV stations wont be broadcasting .. would TW have convert digital to analog?
yes OC is more advanced I know they upgraded the fiber outside my house

I recorded the Tony Awards here in Santa Clarita. I am now watching but it is not in HD. I have wide black side borders.

Did anyone see/record this in HD?

You are right it was not broadcast in HD but it was on 402 an HD channel which will give you a better picture...most think that if something is on an HD channel it is broadcasting in HD...the TV Guide will tell you which shows are HD...the signal is stronger so it looks better than SD....as for the number of HD programming that is coming our way TW has named 12 new channels...we may be in walkers before this happens...but the promise is late August early October...yeah right...

Technically it was broadcast in HD (the black bars are part of the 16:9 frame), but the source was only SD.

why would they be forced too ? TV stations wont be broadcasting .. would TW have convert digital to analog?
yes OC is more advanced I know they upgraded the fiber outside my house
I believe it the cable channels that they are being forced to continue carrying in Analog, not the broadcast stations. Although, I'll be first to admit I'm hardly the authority on the subject.

Rudy

How pethetic is TWC?

Yesterday I recieved a vist from someone from TWC trying to to get me to back (I am with Dish Net. on a contract, I, would go back even if I could)
How pethetic is TWC?

Regarding the Tony Awards, the online guide said it would be in HD, but apparently that was a typo/mistake.

I'm sorry DSperber but I just had to comment on this. There is absolutely no way, that TWC can offer this many HD channels before a decade from now. Yes that is 10 years. No way. Maybe somewhere on the east coast in their test markets where SDV is deployed and networks are all upgraded and such. Maybe, perhaps ..... But here that's laughable. I'm a bit stunned to hear that you would actually believe something like that. If any channels do show up it will be within the next 2 Years or so and even then it will be less than a dozen. If that.

RudyJust talked with TWC about the absence of HBO-HD and SHO-HD through OnDemand, which a friend who lives in a Charter neighborhood says is available through their OnDemand. No explanation from TWC, aside from the expected "well, we're still building out infrastructure". This isn't really a big issue for me, although I would certainly like to have an HD OnDemand option for the two premiums I do pay for.

However I did also ask about upcoming HD channel offerings, as no public announcement has yet been made. I was told that, per internal notices, by early July there would be 12 new HD channels added. I think they've been mentioned before here, but they are:

Food, HGTV, CNN, Hist, A&E, Golf/Versus, Disc, TLC, Disney, ABC-Fam, ESPN News, and NGC.

The same internal announcement goes on to mention continued gradual rollout of additional HD channels through Feb 2009, by which time they are planning to have a total of around 70 HD channels available (including premiums, I'm sure).

This was posted on TWC SoCal programming changes URL

Beginning July 9, 2008 through February 2009, the following launches will take place throughout Time Warner Cable Los Angeles' service areas. Launch schedule and channel numbers will be available on our website at www.timewarnercable.com/socal starting early July 2008. Some of the launches listed below may only apply to limited areas.

HGTV HD, Food Network HD, CNN HD, History Channel HD, A&E HD, Golf/Versus HD, Discovery HD, TLC HD, Disney Channel HD, ABC Family HD, ESPNews HD, and National Geographic HD will be launched in all areas. These networks will be on the same service level as the standard definition version of each network. HD equipment is required to receive High Definition channels.

Thanks guys, thanks for your posts. If this is indeed true, I would be ecstatic to eat my words and admit just how wrong I was. However, I find it entirely baffling that if they had the bandwidth to add these 12 channels all along why did they wait so many years before doing so? This is quite baffling. And 70 channels before Feb 2009? :) Without SDV in place or any upgrade to the network? It just doesn't make much sense. But with the hard evidence in place, of the 12 channels at least, with the memos and announcements, it really is looking like those channels will become available. I'm puzzled, I guess time will tell.
Having lived in former Adelphia areas of the city all this time, this is still too hard for me to believe, at least for my area. No point in speculating now as July is less than a month away. I guess we'll just wait and see.

Here is a direct link to the Programming Alerts page for those who want to see this with their own eyes.: http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html

Rudy

TWC has been upgrading the system to support these additional channels. I know in my area (Inland Empire), they've been installing new/additional fiber and equipment every place I look.

It cost them $7B to buy the Southern California market, and they've been getting a disproportionate amount of the capital funding to fix the infrastructure.

I'm not happy with TWC either, but if my local Comcast/Adelphi was anything like other areas in SoCal when TWC took over, they inherited a mess. Don't forget that many of the California systems started out as little independent cable operators that were gobbled up over the years and simply held together with spit and tape. I think TWC underestimated just how bad everything was and has basically had to rebuild everything from the ground up.

Look on the bright side... Once they get this complete, we'll have one of the most modern systems. Of course, everyone will have moved to FiOS or other systems by then, but at least they tried! ;)

I totally hear you, and definitely understand what you are saying. Unfortunately I was a customer to all of those terrible monopolies, and the only thing they did consistently, was offer any kind of new technology last.
Inland Empire is a long way from where I am, which is the West Side of Los Angeles. Around here I have not seen any upgrades and work going on. Therefore my post was really meant to be a reality check rather than complaint. Although if that's what it came of as then I need to choose my words more wisely.
In the end time will tell. How much time for me? Who knows. The announcement on TWC website said that the 12 channels will be rolled out between July and February.

Rudy

I am so glad to hear TWC is finally getting off their bums and adding some new channels.

I moved to Fullerton a year ago and was stunned by the lack of HD channels so it's good to see we're getting more, although I wish they'd rolled out Discovery HD a month earlier because now I have to wait for the Blu-ray edition of When We Left Earth to see it in HD.

Here is some additional information.

There are 20 HD channels ready to go but they are starting with the 12 already mentioned in the programing alerts page. One of the remaining eight is SciFi. No info on the others.

There will be about 100 cities launching between 7/9 and 11/12 based on when the local plant upgrades are completed. For example, the Fontana area won't launch until 10/8.

I've been told that by October, the hope is to have all 20 new HD channels up and running.

In early 2009, there are an additional 20 HD channels to launch.

I've asked for additional detail for all cities, and I'll post it here if/when I get it.

Thanks jsessler, for all the effort and wonderful work. Really really appreciated.

Rudy

Thanks jsessler, for all the effort and wonderful work. Really really appreciated.

Rudy

Agreed; it's good to know what's going on. Whenever I call TWC I get the run around.

Can someone explain to me why there picture quality is so bad on different channels

example: yesterday KCAL channel 409 was just a blank screen nothing there.
Universal HD was unwatchable nothing but blocks and stuttering sound

TNT HD was perfect not a problem with good picture (showing A Knights Tale)

the other channels where good too...

is there no one watching in the head office?

Channel 9 or 409 in HD is often off the air or pixelating...it is a signal problem from them not TW I know this because about 3 weeks ago after 409 had been off the air for hours something appeared on the screen saying it was temporarily off the air due to technical difficulties...never had seen that one before... Actually around this time of the year we get weird stuff...on Friday all the HD channels from 402 to 411 were breaking up today they seem to be fine....

Can someone explain to me why there picture quality is so bad on different channels

example: yesterday KCAL channel 409 was just a blank screen nothing there.
Universal HD was unwatchable nothing but blocks and stuttering sound

TNT HD was perfect not a problem with good picture (showing A Knights Tale)

the other channels where good too...

is there no one watching in the head office?

This has been going on for years,the pulsating picture on 413(FS-HD),the sometimes heavy pixellation on 414(MHD),416(D-Theater),419(UHD),420(HDNET) & 421(HDNET-M).The only consistant quality channels has been the OTA networks & the 2 ESPN HD channels.It will be very interesting to see what happens to the PQ when TWC attempts to shoehorn an additional 20 HD stations on this aging infrastructure.Right now there is always 2 or more channels starving for bitrate in the HD spectrum.

This has been going on for years,the pulsating picture on 413(FS-HD),the sometimes heavy pixellation on 414(MHD),416(D-Theater),419(UHD),420(HDNET) & 421(HDNET-M).The only consistant quality channels has been the OTA networks & the 2 ESPN HD channels.It will be very interesting to see what happens to the PQ when TWC attempts to shoehorn an additional 20 HD stations on this aging infrastructure.Right now there is always 2 or more channels starving for bitrate in the HD spectrum.

So I'm not the only one that notices that crap on 413... I asked before and nobody noticed it.

Moving to LA next week. Will probably settle in 90403 Santa Monica. What are my possible options for TV/Internet provider. Thanks.

So I'm not the only one that notices that crap on 413... I asked before and nobody noticed it.
I don't know what city you guys are in (you can add to your profile so always listed), but in Orange I have not seen a problem with 413. Watch many Angel games there last couple months and excellent picture (except maybe one series from out of town having a poor feed, but not the local cable's fault). Also, from what little I stop on MHD, no issues there either. Have had terrible break-ups in some regular SD digital channels at times though (forget specific channels: Animal Planet, TCM, ???) /Dan

This has been going on for years,the pulsating picture on 413(FS-HD),the sometimes heavy pixellation on 414(MHD),416(D-Theater),419(UHD),420(HDNET) & 421(HDNET-M).The only consistant quality channels has been the OTA networks & the 2 ESPN HD channels.It will be very interesting to see what happens to the PQ when TWC attempts to shoehorn an additional 20 HD stations on this aging infrastructure.Right now there is always 2 or more channels starving for bitrate in the HD spectrum.

This has been my biggest complaint for years now. Why add more HD channels when the ones we have now clearly don't qualify as HD? Its been well over a year since I raised hell about it and had over 7 service calls with the top engineers finally telling me I was right with my diagnosis of 'stuffing the pipeline" with too many channels.

The HDNET Movie channel is always the worst here in Costa Mesa.

If I could get FIOS here I would have jumped ship long ago.

Moving to LA next week. Will probably settle in 90403 Santa Monica. What are my possible options for TV/Internet provider. Thanks.

TimeWarner Cable, DirecTV, Dish Network, VeriZon DSL and if you're really lucky VeriZon FiOS. That last one is street by street so you'll need to confirm that. My friend is in 90405 and has it.

I don't know what city you guys are in (you can add to your profile so always listed), but in Orange I have not seen a problem with 413. Watch many Angel games there last couple months and excellent picture (except maybe one series from out of town having a poor feed, but not the local cable's fault). Also, from what little I stop on MHD, no issues there either. Have had terrible break-ups in some regular SD digital channels at times though (forget specific channels: Animal Planet, TCM, ???) /Dan

My friend in Tustin,right next to Orange suffers the pulsating picture on 413 as well as pixellation on the other channels mentioned.There have been numerous complaints about this from both LA & Orange counties for quite some time specially during college football season.If you have a DVR play it in slow motion and frame by frame and i guarantee that you will see the pulsating picture on 413 as the picture breaks badly every few seconds.It may not be really bad on a smaller HDTV but once you notice it it's really maddening.

Moving to LA next week. Will probably settle in 90403 Santa Monica. What are my possible options for TV/Internet provider. Thanks.

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hey guys, any news on new HD channels? its almost july

hey guys, any news on new HD channels? its almost july


The word from TWC SoCal is July 9 through August for some additions. I'm curious if there will be a price hike for more new HD channels since there's been nothing said yet. Maybe the subject should remain quiet lest TWC hears.

i was paying around $119 about 1 year ago and now its $155. I have the package of roadrunner, digital phone and digital cable. Im sure it will be around 170 very soon.

TWC So Cal just listed the upcoming HD networks with channel numbers:

418 Discovery HD
423 Golf/Versus HD
426 ESPNews HD
432 CNN HD
433 HGTV HD
434 Food Network HD
435 Disney Channel HD
436 ABC Family HD
437 TLC HD
439 History Channel HD
439 A&E HD
440 National Geographic HD


I think either History Channel HD or A&E HD are on channel 438. The website listed both as channel 439.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html

i was paying around $119 about 1 year ago and now its $155. I have the package of roadrunner, digital phone and digital cable. Im sure it will be around 170 very soon.

That's because the promo pricing for your all the best package ran out..it only lasts a year.