Interesting article in the LA times:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-adelphia9apr09,0,7442435.story?coll=la-home-business

I find the last line esp. funny, "Adelphia's systems are the least state of the art in the city." As though we needed to be told that.

-Sketchy

Originally posted by sketchy9


I find the last line esp. funny, "Adelphia's systems are the least state of the art in the city." As though we needed to be told that.

-Sketchy

Hey! We have Moxi!! :D

I suppose this is a good sign for more HD channels. They better not take away my Moxi though :)

More HD for sure. I can see TNT coming right away.

I just hope that areas on a 750mhz system they either dump analog for all digital broadcast or upgrade our systems to a 1 ghz system.

They have to prey the moxi out my hands to give it back. Unless they have a HD tivo, there noway i will use a crappy SA or Moto 64XX series box

I am much happier since I rolled back to the previously released Motorola HD cable box. the analog channels PQ is vastly superior to Moxi. Adelphia is to be applauded for deploying the Moxi platform. when the product rollout expanded beyond its initial trial it is unfortunate the MSO didn't educate subscribers that Moxi was still in its infancy and performance and reliability issues would be the norm for a substantial time in the future.

that said is any other cable HD DVR better? I sure hope TiVo becomes an HD cable option.

Ah...... All Southlanders....... Now Hear This !

There is a conference call on Thursday of this week regarding the 3.2 software for the Moxi.

I'll try to get the poop.

SO WHAT's ADELPHIA HD SERVICE LIKE NOW?

After having Adelphia HD service (thru the Eagle Rock service center) after it first came out, I dropped it and ran away as fast as I could. HD signal was undependable often breaking up and the Moxi unit was so full of bugs you needed an exterminator.

I switched to Voom and never looked back. Of course now that Voom's out of the picture, what's one to do. Don't want to lay out cash for DirectTV or Dish for equipment that will need to be replaced when they switch to MPEG4. And neither the satellites or Adelphia really has anything great to offer in HD, but I'll take what I can get.

How's the picture quality with Adelphia now? Are they still having signal loss and breakup problems?

How's the Moxi unit these days? Did Adelphia ever activate the DVI port as promised?

Has anyone heard anything about planned HD channel additions? What about WB, UniversalHD, StarzHD, MaxHD, InHD, HDNet?

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Ah...... All Southlanders....... Now Hear This !

There is a conference call on Thursday of this week regarding the 3.2 software for the Moxi.

I'll try to get the poop.

I've been waiting for 3.2 since last October.... Native mode passthrough will be so nice. I haven't watched a program in HD because it is too much of a hassle to switch back and forth in setup. Plus, HD takes up too much of the 80 GB HDD.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Ah...... All Southlanders....... Now Hear This !

There is a conference call on Thursday of this week regarding the 3.2 software for the Moxi.

I'll try to get the poop.

We're getting close to Thursday. Where's the poop. :p

Originally posted by kyleki
Where's the poop. :p
Well I suggest going to this thread ……
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=498008&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

and doing a search under “bowel movement”…. no …strike that…. just search under “movement” and scan the posts by me. You’ll find plenty of material.:D

Originally posted by joe221
My Sony XS955 can capture all the local HD channels, but not Discovery or the premium channels. They appear at 2.1 4.1 7.1 11.1 and 28.1

As of last night (4/15) 4.1, 11.1 & 28.1 are gone! Has anyone else lost the channels they had before? The Moxi can tune them so I assume they are now gonna scramble them. Or they're just incompetent as usual, it's just not a complainable issue.
:mad:

Originally posted by joe221
Hey! We have Moxi!! :D

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love the Moxi. But I had read that Adeplphia is basically maxed out on its bandwith, so that's one (of many) reason why no other HD channels besides local and ESPN,

-Sketchy

Originally posted by joe221
As of last night (4/15) 4.1, 11.1 & 28.1 are gone! Has anyone elso lost the channels they had before? The Moxi can tune them so I assume they are now gonna scramble them. Or they're just incompetent as usual, it's just not a complainable issue.
:mad:

My understanding is that they're not allowed by law to scramble local channels, that they must be available "in the clear" on the all tiers of service.

-Sketchy

Originally posted by sketchy9
My understanding is that they're not allowed by law to scramble local channels, that they must be available "in the clear" on the all tiers of service.

-Sketchy

That would be nice, but since when does Adelphia follow laws. :D

Originally posted by sketchy9
My understanding is that they're not allowed by law to scramble local channels, that they must be available "in the clear" on the all tiers of service.

-Sketchy

I not real sure of that. That does apply for analog channels, but I don't believe there are actually regulations regarding cable and local digital channels, yet at least. That's why cable companies don't have to carry the digital feeds or HD feeds for all the locals yet.

Originally posted by sketchy9
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love the Moxi. But I had read that Adeplphia is basically maxed out on its bandwith, so that's one (of many) reason why no other HD channels besides local and ESPN,

-Sketchy

Of course if Adelphia would just move some of their channels off analog and to digital that would open up a lot of bandwidth.

anybody else just begin receiving Discovery HD?

whenever it did begin was PQ of the analog channels the same, improve or worse compared to before?

Originally posted by joe221
As of last night (4/15) 4.1, 11.1 & 28.1 are gone! Has anyone elso lost the channels they had before? The Moxi can tune them so I assume they are now gonna scramble them. Or they're just incompetent as usual, it's just not a complainable issue.
:mad:

I found 2 of them, I'm rescanning to see where the third one is. NBC-D is at 0.0! I'll post when I'm sure.

Originally posted by joe221
I found 2 of them, I'm rescanning to see where the third one is. NBC-D is at 0.0! I'll post when I'm sure.
After the scan all the channels reappeared in their previous spot, except NBC-D which is now at 0.0???
I'm getting a CableCard on Thursday. :(

Originally posted by bgooch
anybody else just begin receiving Discovery HD?

whenever it did begin was PQ of the analog channels the same, improve or worse compared to before?

I've had it since late last year. I don't notice any degredation of the other channels as a result?

Time Warner, Comcast to Buy Adelphia for $17.6 Bln (Update2) ListenListen

April 21 (Bloomberg) -- Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Inc., the two biggest U.S. cable-television companies, agreed to buy bankrupt Adelphia Communications Corp. for $17.6 billion in cash and stock, the biggest transaction in the industry in more than two years.

Adelphia, owner of systems from Los Angeles to Miami, will receive $12.7 billion in cash and 16 percent of a cable company Time Warner plans to spin off, the companies said in a statement today. The shares are worth $4.9 billion, company officials said.

Time Warner and Comcast overcame a last-minute, $17.1 billion bid for Adelphia by Cablevision Systems Corp., which had tried to scuttle the agreement. Time Warner and Comcast were willing to pay more because they both want to broaden their customer base and unwind Comcast's 21 percent ownership of Time Warner Cable. The deal allows Time Warner Chief Executive Richard Parsons to press ahead with plans to spin off his cable business.

``This is a good strategic decision by Time Warner and Comcast,'' said Richard Steinberg, chief investment officer at Boca Raton, Florida-based Steinberg Global Asset Management, which owns 67,000 Comcast shares and 39,000 Time Warner shares and manages $375 million. ``They grab an asset that's probably worth more to them integrated in their systems than as a standalone.''

Adelphia's sale will hasten the end of a bankruptcy begun in mid-2002, when the company filed for Chapter 11, saddled with $20 billion of debt. Creditors, led by William Huff and his W.R. Huff Asset Management Co., spent the past three years seeking to retrieve their money through asset sales and suing the founding Rigas family.

Doubling Debt

The transaction, the biggest since Comcast paid $52 billion for AT&T Corp.'s cable assets in 2002, will reinforce Comcast and Time Warner Cable's dominance in the industry. Their nearest rival, closely held Cox Communications Inc., has 6.3 million subscribers. Charter Communications Inc., has 6.1 million.

Time Warner hasn't made such a large acquisition since 2001, when America Online purchased the media company in a $124 billion deal that cost more than $100 billion in market value and embroiled the company in investigations.

Making the purchase will almost double Time Warner's debt to $27.4 billion from $16.2 billion. Time Warner will pay $9.2 billion of the cash portion and Comcast will pay $3.5 billion.

Shares of Time Warner, the world's largest media company and the No. 2 U.S. cable provider, rose 51 cents to $17.44 at 12:54 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. Comcast rose 66 cents to $32.15 on the Nasdaq Stock Market.

Breakup Fee

Adelphia agreed yesterday to pay a break up fee should it pull out of the deal, putting up blocks to Cablevision. Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. and Providence Equity Partners Inc. had also made an offer. Under a breakup pact, Adelphia would pay as much as $450 million if it scrapped the deal.

Greenwood Village, Colorado-based Adelphia has 5.2 million subscribers in Florida, Ohio, New York state and New England. Comcast will add 1.8 million users, boosting business in Washington, D.C.; Florida; Massachusetts and Pennsylvania. That will give it a total of 23.3 million customers.

Time Warner Cable, the biggest operator in New York City, will gain 3.5 million basic subscribers and become the largest operator in Los Angeles, for a total of 14.4 million ``well- clustered'' users. Time Warner, based in New York, will own 84 percent of the cable business and also will own a direct non- voting interest of about $2.9 billion in a subsidiary of Time Warner Cable.

Comcast will swap its stake in Time Warner Cable for 1.8 million Adelphia customers, 750,000 Time Warner cable subscribers and $2 billion in cash.

Reinforced Dominance

Time Warner said today it is considering ways to return cash to shareholders, and may decide whether to pay a dividend in the second half of the year.

The deal will close in nine to 12 months, Time Warner said. The cable unit's revenue will be $13.3 billion to $13.8 billion in the year after the close, Time Warner Cable CEO Glenn Britt said on the call. Capital spending will be at least $2.7 billion.

Adelphia CEO William Schleyer, 53, auctioned the company's assets in a bankruptcy that followed an accounting fraud by the Rigas family. Founder John Rigas, 80, and his son, Timothy, 48, were convicted in July of conspiracy and fraud.

The Rigases made misleading financial statements, misappropriated funds and boosted debt more than fourfold within two years, according to a Dec. 23 regulatory filing by Adelphia, the fifth-biggest U.S. cable company.

`Superior' Option

Schleyer, who was hired to run Adelphia in March 2003, proposed a restructuring plan 11 months later that valued the company's assets at about $17 billion and would allow Adelphia to emerge from bankruptcy and continue with its operations.

Creditors and bondholders didn't support that plan, forcing Schleyer to consider an auction.

``This option is superior to Adelphia emerging as a standalone company,'' Schleyer said in Adelphia's statement today.

UBS AG and Allen & Co. advised Adelphia. Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Co. advised Time Warner. The Blackstone Group LP advised Comcast on the Adelphia deal and Morgan Stanley advised Comcast on the swap transaction with Time Warner.

from the LA Times

Time Warner would become Southern California's largest cable provider, more than tripling its customer base to 2.4 million subscribers from Los Angeles to San Diego.

Time Warner would take over not only Adelphia's 1.1 million Southern California subscribers but also Comcast's nearly 600,000 customers in the region.

Analysts predicted that the company's dominance would force two other cable operators — Cox Communications Corp. and Charter Communications Corp. — to sell or swap their local systems to Time Warner.

Cable companies have been eager to own large clusters of subscribers to gain efficiency and market clout to compete against satellite and phone rivals. But Glenn Britt, chief executive of Time Warner Cable, said that neither Cox nor Charter had indicated that they were ready to sell.

Analysts also predicted that customers would see improvements in service as Time Warner brought to bear operating efficiencies from the consolidation.

whole article here
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-adelphia22apr22,0,5270696,print.story?coll=la-home-business

I got a thank you card in the mail from Adelphia today. In it, is an offer for STARZ free for the rest of the year. There was also a coupon for a free PPV movie.
Did any one else get such a thank you?

I got a card for a free PPV.

Same here. I tossed it.

Originally posted by kyleki
We're getting close to Thursday. Where's the poop. :p

Any Progress on getting the 3.2 software upgrade? I still have the Moxi and allll the same problems that have plagued the east side of town regarding channel lineup disappearing. The only trick I found was to get a timer and have it reboot about 10 minutes before the programs start. I had this 3-4 hour window where it'd work... now for some reason even THAT is not working.

Is 3.2 supposed to address the problems in Los Feliz, east side areas? If so, when is this supposed to happen? I hope it upgrades itself because everytime I try it manually it does nothing.. pretty much a consistent phenomenon of the moxi.

Anyone ever find a solution to the disappearing channel lineup? I can't call the idiots at Adelphia again, I spent 2 months on that and it's just a waste of time..

p.s. good thing the new taxes added another $5 onto bill....

Originally posted by beatnikguy
Any Progress on getting the 3.2 software upgrade? I still have the Moxi and allll the same problems that have plagued the east side of town regarding channel lineup disappearing. The only trick I found was to get a timer and have it reboot about 10 minutes before the programs start. I had this 3-4 hour window where it'd work... now for some reason even THAT is not working.

Is 3.2 supposed to address the problems in Los Feliz, east side areas? If so, when is this supposed to happen? I hope it upgrades itself because everytime I try it manually it does nothing.. pretty much a consistent phenomenon of the moxi.

Anyone ever find a solution to the disappearing channel lineup? I can't call the idiots at Adelphia again, I spent 2 months on that and it's just a waste of time..

p.s. good thing the new taxes added another $5 onto bill....

You know there's a Moxi Forum HERE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=42) ?

Originally posted by joe221
I got a thank you card in the mail from Adelphia today. In it, is an offer for STARZ free for the rest of the year. There was also a coupon for a free PPV movie.
Did any one else get such a thank you?

I got the same, but haven't called them to activate STARZ yet. Too bad my Adelphia (Diamond Bar) doesn't carry STARZ HD, yet.

I just have basic analog service from adelphia and until last week used to get a few "free" digital channels (cbs,abc,nbc,fox,pbs...) via my sony's xbr's QAM tuner.

All of sudden adelphia apparently cut or scrambled all of their digital feeds and hosed my tv in the process. I couldn't change channels even on analog. I fixed it by having to re-auto program which only found analog channels and 0 digital(before it found 200 digital channels)...

So therefore I am stuck with analog adelphia while getting my hd from the antenna. oh well. adelphia sucks thats all i wanted to say.

Originally posted by juandixon
I just have basic analog service from adelphia and until last week used to get a few "free" digital channels (cbs,abc,nbc,fox,pbs...) via my sony's xbr's QAM tuner.

All of sudden adelphia apparently cut or scrambled all of their digital feeds and hosed my tv in the process. I couldn't change channels even on analog. I fixed it by having to re-auto program which only found analog channels and 0 digital(before it found 200 digital channels)...

So therefore I am stuck with analog adelphia while getting my hd from the antenna. oh well. adelphia sucks thats all i wanted to say.

Juan,
Are you positive it's Adelphia? I'm starting to be convinced it's actualy a Sony problem. Check out this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=531971) I started, when I noticed others with Sony TVs complaining about tuning issues! Now, that's not to say that Adelphia doesn't suck, they do. When I rescan it recaptures the digital channels but loses them again in a few hours, if that long.

Originally posted by dadndudes
I got the same, but haven't called them to activate STARZ yet. Too bad my Adelphia (Diamond Bar) doesn't carry STARZ HD, yet.

Neither does mine in West LA. And they look like S--t on the Moxi. Worthless.

I apologize if this has been thoroughly covered but I wasn't aware that by using your own QAM tuner you would be able to view additional channels, including digital ones. I wonder how long it will take for them to start scrambling everything except what you've subscribed to. Or, is it not possible for them to do that? Please give me an idea what you currently can and cannot receive. I have an LST-2400A arriving Monday and you've got my curiosity going.

Originally posted by dublus
I apologize if this has been thoroughly covered but I wasn't aware that by using your own QAM tuner you would be able to view additional channels, including digital ones. I wonder how long it will take for them to start scrambling everything except what you've subscribed to. Or, is it not possible for them to do that? Please give me an idea what you currently can and cannot receive. I have an LST-2400A arriving Monday and you've got my curiosity going.

I've been able to get (before my TV went nuts) the local HD channels and an assortment odd SD-Digital channels (above channel 100), I pay for them anyway in my package. It's just easier to view without the Moxi. HBO ESPN-HD and DiscHDT do not show up.
I can still tune most of them in, but the TV loses them. So I'm blaming the TV till proved otherwise.

Hmm, interesting... I'll report back if I am able to tune in anything else.

Originally posted by joe221
Juan,
Are you positive it's Adelphia? I'm starting to be convinced it's actualy a Sony problem. Check out this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=531971) I started, when I noticed others with Sony TVs complaining about tuning issues! Now, that's not to say that Adelphia doesn't suck, they do. When I rescan it recaptures the digital channels but loses them again in a few hours, if that long.

Its definitely a sony problem, but caused by adelphia if that makes any sense...

I live in west la too and its no coincidence that your having the exact same issue as me at the same time.

I know adelphia has been shifting their digital channel lineup around for a few days now and after doing a rescan on saturday which only detected analog channels everything works fine....i can live without adelphia's hd feed.

the sony problem occurs when the source of a digital channel has been changed and therefore causes some bug in the sony box to arise which locks the channel browser etc....

since you have the digital service, i believe getting an updated cable card would fix it(assuming adelphia is not constantly changing their lineups), but again i only have adelphia basic and i have no problems now.

I just thought I would give an update on the 3.2 upgrade:

IT IS MAY 2 AND IT IS STILL NOT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Dish network and their new 942 box is rapidly becoming very tempting...

pj1016

Originally posted by pj1016
Dish network and their new 942 box is rapidly becoming very tempting...

pj1016
I made the switch.....and I am VERY happy!

Dish has also just added 10 more HD channels that used to be part of Voom.

Curtis, do you have internet through Dish? What about locals? I'm thinking of switching over from Adelphia -- tired of waiting for more HD channels....

pg....I still get my internet from Adelphia.

If you want to stop by and check out Dish and the 942 box, you are more than welcome.

To get the 10 new HD channels right now, you need clear site to the eastern horizon.

Originally posted by juandixon
Its definitely a sony problem, but caused by adelphia if that makes any sense...

I live in west la too and its no coincidence that your having the exact same issue as me at the same time.

I know adelphia has been shifting their digital channel lineup around for a few days now and after doing a rescan on saturday which only detected analog channels everything works fine....i can live without adelphia's hd feed.

the sony problem occurs when the source of a digital channel has been changed and therefore causes some bug in the sony box to arise which locks the channel browser etc....

since you have the digital service, i believe getting an updated cable card would fix it(assuming adelphia is not constantly changing their lineups), but again i only have adelphia basic and i have no problems now.

Thanks Juan! I'm having BB come out today. As a coincidence the image went dim about 20 minutes after I hung up with the tech so there's even more to fix. Argggggh.
:mad:

According to the tech, Sony now has a fix for the tuner problem. We'll see when he attempts the fix. Not sure what it consists of yet. He was on the phone with Sony while he was here. Getting new bulb too.

Originally posted by cschang
I made the switch.....and I am VERY happy!

Dish has also just added 10 more HD channels that used to be part of Voom.
Hmm,
Tell me, do you know what the average bit-rate of high-definition programming for Dish is....... compared to Adelphia cable HD in SoCal ?

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Hmm,
Tell me, do you know what the average bit-rate of high-definition programming for Dish is....... compared to Adelphia cable HD in SoCal ?

I was thinking about the same thing. How is the picture quality on Dish-HD?
I'm not sure I could get a decent line of sight here.

Jim

I was thinking about the same thing. How is the picture quality on Dish-HD?

I have both right now and the PQ on Dish is slightly better on CBS-HD, and tons better on HBO (no pixelaton). The PQ on Disvovery and HD-NET (Dish) blows away the PQ on PBS (Adlelphia). However, this is not a fair comparison because KCET in L.A. muticasts.

The ONLY reason I have Adelphia at all is because of the HD locals that I can not get from Dish or an OTA antena.

If you can get your local HD with an antena, I would say go with Dish if you are into HD.

What is the reason you can not use an OTA antenna?

I agree with jefe...the PQ with Dish is better overall than Adelphia.

I bought a $25 outdoor antenna from Radio Shack and all my digital locals come in strong.

A tech will install the HD for me next Sat for the second time. I have the HD last year for the NBA playoff only. Even this year Lakers are not in the playoff, I want to get the HD for a month or two again.

Interesting thing is, my payment will be cheaper with HD. The price is good until the end of this year. What a deal. I didn't bother to ask why it is cheaper with HD service. Anyone has the same deal?

By the way on the Dish HD, you need to have the basic TV plan + HD package right? You can't just have the HD package without any other TV plan.

Anybody else not getting ESPN-HD? Mine has been out the last two nights. On the Moxi I get the blue box message about not subscribing to this channel.
On the 6200 I'm just getting a black screen.

Jim

Originally posted by motoman
Anybody else not getting ESPN-HD? Mine has been out the last two nights. On the Moxi I get the blue box message about not subscribing to this channel.
On the 6200 I'm just getting a black screen.

Jim

I've been going up and down with the Moxi lately. But right now I have ESPN-HD.

Called Adelphia this morning. Always a fun way to start your day by dealing with these ding bats. They ask for my information this morning and I give it all to them. They then ask for my last four digits of my SS #. They say it doesn't match and she will not access any information about my account. I have to go to the local office and prove who I am before they can tell me why I don't have ESPN-HD all of a sudden. I've had this account with three different cable companies and now all of a sudden it's not me. I guess if I didn't pay the bill every month they might find me....

Anyway the reason why ESPN-HD is gone is because it's an extra charge here now. I know some areas are already this way but you would know they would do this right in the middle of the playoffs.

Can't wait for these bone heads to be sold to somebody else.

Jim

Originally posted by motoman
Can't wait for these bone heads to be sold to somebody else.

Moto-
Perhaps you should burn some bean oil in sacrifice to the Cable Gods that we don’t get one set of boneheads replacing another.:eek:

I am paying the extra charge ($1.50) for ESPN-HD. It's kinda goofy that they charge for this above the HD charges??

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Moto-
Perhaps you should burn some bean oil in sacrifice to the Cable Gods that we don’t get one set of boneheads replacing another.:eek:

:D :D :D


I called them back after the SS # fiasco was taken care of and dropped any extra channels I could and still be able to keep HBO-HD,SHO-HD then I added ESPN-HD. I hardly ever watched some of them anyway. Even with adding the ESPN-HD I was able to drop the overall bill by $11.00.

It amazes me also that I was paying for everything and they wanted another $1.50 for one channel. Their little deal pissed me off enough to shave off a few extra channels and save myself a few bucks and cost them a few.

I spent this afternoon reading up on some of the Dish stuff. I don't understand some of the stuff where people are talking about the new 942 HD/DVR receivers not being compatible with the new upcoming MPEG4???
( I may have those numbers wrong).
I don't want to put some money out on something that might be obsolete in a few months. Maybe somebody that has changed over already can explain it better to a Dish newbie.

Anyway enough ranting for one day....


Jim

Good for you Jim! I'm with you on giving Adelphia as little as I can. I recently swiched to DSL when A wouldn't lower my cost to $26.95 that they were screaming to everyone who would listen. I had so many slow days that I had enough of the BS and switched. Something triggered something in their computer because my bill this month was $26. That's much less than just dropping HSI. What ever, the less the better. I'd love to do a dish, but the cost is still higher than staying with A, for now.

motoman,

I made the switch from Adelphia/Moxi to Dish/942 last week.....and I am glad I did!

Here is a great support forum for the 942:
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=88

Originally posted by cschang
motoman,

I made the switch from Adelphia/Moxi to Dish/942 last week.....and I am glad I did!

Here is a great support forum for the 942:
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=88

Thanks for the link. I'll read up on it.

Jim

re video on demand: I just started using this for HBO & Showtime. How long do the movies remain on the list? change every week? every day? every month?

from http://www.hbo.com/hboondemand/faq.html#faq13

A new HBO On Demand program selection is offered every Monday. Most programs are available for viewing for one month.

Adelphia is scum.

I turned-on my tv tonight to find that I now longer get ESPN-HD.

I wouldn't have even known why if I hadn't been reading this thread.

WTF? I have to pay for this separately on top of the other HD charge?

And they don't even let me know beforehand? They can't even warn me in my last bill that this is coming? Jeez...

motoman: What channels did you drop? You can drop individual channels?

Pissed...

pj1016

Originally posted by pj1016
Adelphia is scum.

I turned-on my tv tonight to find that I now longer get ESPN-HD.

I wouldn't have even known why if I hadn't been reading this thread.

WTF? I have to pay for this separately on top of the other HD charge?

And they don't even let me know beforehand? They can't even warn me in my last bill that this is coming? Jeez...

motoman: What channels did you drop? You can drop individual channels?

Pissed...

pj1016
I DO pay for ESPN-HD and when they black out a game, they don't put up a different screen. They put up the "blue screen of death" so you think the channel died!
I can't wait for TW to take over, it just CAN'T be any worse!

Originally posted by pj1016
Adelphia is scum.

I turned-on my tv tonight to find that I now longer get ESPN-HD.
motoman: What channels did you drop? You can drop individual channels?
Pissed...
pj1016

When I called their excuse was we should have been charged for ESPN-HD from the start and it was sent out as a mistake. :mad:

I was getting all the movie packages so when I called I asked about Max-HD and Discovery-HD. She said those channels would not be added in our area till late Dec. I said well hopefully Adelphia will be gone by then. That went over like a turd in a punch bowl.

So I cancelled the MAX,Starz,Encore packages. Kept HBO & SHO so I could keep those HD packages. I basically dropped anything that would not help me on my HD stuff and added the ESPN-HD.

I wasn't watching these anyway so I won't really miss anything and I saved a few bucks along the way.

It really pissed me off the way it was handled also but that is typical Adelphia.

Good luck.

Jim

Thanks, Jim.

I just called and dumped one premium channel and added ESPN-HD; didn't have the energy to blast them as I know from past experience that it wouldn't do any good.

Especially now that they have been bought, I'm sure they couldn't care at all about customer retention.

I'll be moving to a new house in about two months, and you can bet I'll be taking a hard look at Dish then if these twits haven't gotten everyone in my area switched from analog to digital and added more HD channels.

pj1016

Is anyone else having problems only with NBA in HD on both ESPN HD and ABC HD? Everything except NBA is fine. Suggestions? Maybe a MOXI issue?

what kind of problems?

It breaks up and sputters like digital interference. Only NBA. Very weird.

Apologies if this is the not the right forum. Please be nice to the newbie and let me know if this should be elsewhere.

Also, Adelphia promised me today they would tell me by Monday when the 3.2 Moxi upgrade would happen. I don't believe them and I am not holding my breath on an answer. FWIW.

I noticed that same type of problem on ESPN-HD when I had Adelphia/Moxi. It seemed to be more frequent with fast motion.

For me it's any HD sports on ESPN-HD. The other channels are OK. There's an ongoing discussion in the Moxi forum.

Not just with MOXI. I see the periodic break-up on ESPN-HD through a moto 6200.

Originally posted by bruce73
Not just with MOXI. I see the periodic break-up on ESPN-HD through a moto 6200.

THANKS for the update. I couldn't test that setup and often wondered, if it's the Moxi, why doesn't it do the same on all channels.

Does anyone use HTPC with HDTV tuner card and able to receive all HD channels (ABC, CBS, ESPN HD...) from Adelphia cable without using their STB? Which card does work with your system? I plan to put one into my pc.

Originally posted by tvset
Does anyone use HTPC with HDTV tuner card and able to receive all HD channels (ABC, CBS, ESPN HD...) from Adelphia cable without using their STB? Which card does work with your system? I plan to put one into my pc.

You can get all of the unencrypted QAM channels (which should be the major networks and PBS). You will not get the cable channels (ESPN, Discovery, etc...). I use the MyHD 130.

BTW, does anyone that has QAM tuner know the channel numbers for the major networks? I get CBS, NBC, and PBS, but I can not find ABC or FOX when I do a channel scan. If someone could list the channel numbers for the networks I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
octavian

Anyone watch the Sonics/Spurs game on ESPN-HD last night? The amount of breakup was ridiculous. At least every 30 secs. or so. Very frustrating, especially in this game where, toward the end, every possession counted.

Is this an issue with the ESPN feed or can we put the blame squarely on Adelphia?

I would say blame Adelphia.

I watched it on Dish Network.....it was beautiful.

Originally posted by bruce73
Anyone watch the Sonics/Spurs game on ESPN-HD last night? The amount of breakup was ridiculous. At least every 30 secs. or so. Very frustrating, especially in this game where, toward the end, every possession counted.

Is this an issue with the ESPN feed or can we put the blame squarely on Adelphia?

Did you see my post up a few? I've been complaining for awhile. Where are you in Adelphialand? I'm in West LA W of the 405.

Joe: Yes, I did. I just wanted to make sure it was system-wide, rather than a localized problem. When it wasn't breaking up, the PQ was excellent. But, I gotta tell ya, on more than a few clutch shots, I wanted to scream!

I live in Los Feliz, with the local office in Eagle Rock (the headend, I think, is in Van Nuys). I'd call and complain, but if you've been on this for a while with no results, it would probably be pointless.

I get more help on these forums than any from Adelphia. I got tired of having to wait for a tech with no positive results. I figured when one of us figures out the actual problem then it's time to call with the specifice request. And we're pay EXTRA for ESPN, just keep telling yourself...;)

I'm in Encino, and I had the same problem with the game last night, breaking up every 30 seconds. I've noticed this before and didn't think it was too big a deal, but last night, it really was annoying. I agree with Joe that complaining to Adelphia doesn't do anything. Since there is another forum on this problem (which I haven't looked for yet), I assume it's not limited to Adephia customers. Other than the Dish guy who saw no problem, is the problem occurring on any other systems?

I'm in Encino, and I had the same problem with the game last night, breaking up every 30 seconds. I've noticed this before and didn't think it was too big a deal, but last night, it really was annoying. I agree with Joe that complaining to Adelphia doesn't do anything. Since there is another forum on this problem (which I haven't looked for yet), I assume it's not limited to Adephia customers. Other than the Dish guy who saw no problem, is the problem occurring on any other systems?

The ESPN-HD debacle has got me close to cancelling my Moxi and premiums and going with the sat providers. In TO, the HD is minimal at best. I can do better with DirecTV, but DirecTV is in flux with the MP4 switchover.

With the TWC takeover, improvement is at least two years away. I'll wait for the VOD release in June and see if its worth it, but I'm disappointed in the HD offerings. If DirectV has decent offerings and equipment when they go to the Spaceway sats, I may have to switch.

With the 10 additional former Voom HD channels, the new 942 DVR, I really think the Dish Network is the best choice right now. I have been very happy with the 942 the past month.

I saw the same problem on HD ESPN tonight.

Do you guys want to switch to dish now? Do you want to wait until the MPEG4 in the market first?

I've had conversations with Adelphia engineers and once they know of a problem they fix it if they can at the system level. Of course moxi and network problems are not just local issues.

Originally posted by cschang
With the 10 additional former Voom HD channels, the new 942 DVR, I really think the Dish Network is the best choice right now. I have been very happy with the 942 the past month.

Unfortunately, I can't get the Voom satellite, I've tried.

Originally posted by tvset
I saw the same problem on HD ESPN tonight.

Do you guys want to switch to dish now? Do you want to wait until the MPEG4 in the market first?

I'm sure they'll have some kind of upgrade promotion if you agree to 12 months. I'm more likely to switch to D*. I'm waiting for 3.2 and VOD to see if I like it.

Originally posted by kelliot
Unfortunately, I can't get the Voom satellite, I've tried.

Is this because of the area you are in? I was always curious if we could get them in my area also.

Jim

Is this because of the area you are in? I was always curious if we could get them in my area also.

Jim

A hill and/or trees block the horizon.

A hill and/or trees block the horizon.

Yeah...for me, my neighbor is in the way.

I had a message on my tuner saying there are more channels comming June 15th. See the web site. No mention there. I know ABCNewsNow is comming officially, but it said channelS. :confused:

I got the new 6/15 line-up card in the mail last week.
Supurb 3 Card Monty play!

They took away a bunch of channels, added a couple and sold it as a plus!!
Is this Time Warner managment's opening gambit??

I got the mailing from Adelphia, which described meaningless changes. I read above or on the MOXI thread that the 3.2 version of Moxi is coming on June 15. Does that mean it's coming to Adelphia SoCal on that day? What is the basis of that statement?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-twarner24may24,1,2528347.story?coll=la-headlines-business&ctrack=1&cset=true

Time Warner to Focus on Service in Deal
Roger Keating is to be named corporate executive vice president for the cable system's operations in the Los Angeles region.
By Sallie Hofmeister
Times Staff Writer

May 24, 2005

Roger Keating, who will become head of Southern California's largest cable system if Time Warner Inc.'s proposed acquisition of Adelphia Communications Corp. is completed, promised Monday that the transaction would mean improved customer service and more advanced offerings throughout the region.

"As the nation's second-largest market, Los Angeles deserves the world-class products Time Warner can offer," said Keating, 43, who is expected to be named today to the new position of corporate executive vice president for operations of Time Warner Cable's Los Angeles region. "Time Warner has distinguished itself by being at the forefront of technology."

The nation's second-largest cable operator, Time Warner would become the biggest provider in Southern California as a result of the company's joint $17.6-billion proposal with Comcast Corp. to buy Adelphia. The deal, announced in April, is expected to be completed within a year, pending the approvals of local and federal regulators.

Under the deal, Time Warner would take over not only Adelphia's 1 million cable customers in Los Angeles and Orange counties, but also local Comcast systems that serve about 580,000 subscribers. The transaction would expand Keating's oversight from Time Warner's current 355,000 customers locally to 1.9 million subscribers in Los Angeles, Orange, Ventura, San Bernardino and Riverside counties.

Los Angeles would become Time Warner's largest cable cluster, followed by its systems in New York and Houston.

Keating said that although it was too early to discuss personnel matters, the company had no plans to reduce its workforce. "We're going to need an ever-growing staff," he said, citing the profound challenges of bringing Adelphia and Comcast service levels in line with Time Warner's own.

Since Adelphia filed for bankruptcy protection two years ago, the company has lacked the resources to roll out many advanced services.

Keating said Time Warner was eager to offer digital phone service to Adelphia customers for the first time. He said Time Warner's video-on-demand offerings also were more extensive than Comcast's or Adelphia's and that it had a higher Internet connection speed than its rivals.

City officials welcome the change in ownership because of Time Warner's reputation as the best of the five local cable providers. Time Warner has the top customer service record, while Adelphia has the worst, according to city complaint figures.

City regulators said Adelphia had been plagued by complaints about picture quality, long customer waits on telephone help lines and out-of-state service representatives unfamiliar with local conditions. They say they will make service improvements a condition of transferring Adelphia's franchises.

Under Keating, who has run Time Warner's local group for two years, the company's subscribers have grown even as satellite TV rivals have grown even as satellite TV rivals have lured customers away from other Los Angeles cable operators, including Adelphia and Charter Communications Corp.

Roger Keating to be Named Corporate, Executive Vice President for Operations at Time Warner Cable
May 24, 2005
http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1065131,00.html

STAMFORD, CT - Once the Adelphia transaction closes, Roger B. Keating will assume the new position of Corporate Executive Vice President for Operations of Time Warner Cable’s Los Angeles region, it was announced today by Time Warner Cable Chairman and CEO Glenn Britt. Keating will be responsible for overseeing the consolidation and operation of the newly-created Los Angeles region, which will combine Time Warner Cable’s existing systems in the area with those of Adelphia and Comcast.

The new Time Warner region will be comprised of systems in Los Angeles, Orange, Ventura, San Bernardino and the western portion of Riverside counties currently operated by Adelphia, Comcast and Time Warner Cable. The newly created division, serving 1.9 million subscribers, will be formed as a result of the pending acquisition of Adelphia properties by Time Warner and Comcast and the subsequent realignment of Comcast and Time Warner systems into more consolidated, clustered divisions across the nation.

Keating currently serves as the Time Warner Cable’s Division President in Los Angeles, which offers service to approximately 355,000 customers. In the two years Keating has held this position, he has led the division into an era of sustained growth as some other operators in the region witnessed shrinking subscriber numbers. He oversaw the introduction of numerous advanced video products in the market, including expanded Video on Demand (VOD) offerings, Digital Video Recorders (DVRs) and the launch of Digital Phone. As division president, Keating instituted policies and practices that boosted the operating efficiency of the division, while at the same time increasing customer satisfaction. He will continue in that role until the Adelphia transaction closes.

“Roger’s appointment is the next step in a continued reorganization, which will place more of our senior corporate operating executives in our divisions, working closer to our customers. As we drive innovation in terms of our product and service offering, improve our marketing efforts and focus on world class customer service,” said Britt, “it is important that the people with management responsibility for the larger clusters we are creating are never far from the people we serve. Roger will begin assembling the necessary team to run a much larger Time Warner Cable presence in the greater Los Angeles area, anticipating the successful close of the Adelphia transaction.”

Time Warner Cable is the primary cable provider in New York, Ohio, the Carolinas (North and South Carolina) and Texas. A regional management structure is being developed to parallel those areas of primary concentration, which also includes the greater Los Angeles area.

Currently, Time Warner Cable operates systems serving the communities of Cypress, El Segundo, Fountain Valley, Garden Grove, Gardena, Hawthorne, Huntington Beach, Lawndale, Los Alamitos, Los Angeles, Midway City, North Torrance, Orange, Rossmoor, San Fernando, San Marino, Santa Clarita, South Pasadena, Stanton, Torrance and Westminster; all in the greater Los Angeles area.

Prior to joining the Los Angeles division in April of 2003, Keating ran Time Warner Cable’s National Division based in Denver, which includes all of the company’s cable systems not clustered around major DMA’s or within a single state. Keating joined Time Warner Cable in 2002, from America Online (AOL)—another division of Time Warner Inc. At AOL, Keating spent two years building or running a variety of businesses including AOL by Phone, AOL Voicemail, AOL Travel and AOL Health.

Earlier in his career, Keating worked for Comcast, where he initially served as general manager for its cable television systems in western and central Florida and later served as senior vice president and general manager for Comcast Online based out of the company’s Philadelphia corporate offices.

Keating earned a BS in engineering from University of Notre Dame in 1983 and an MBA from Stanford University in 1987.

Deane Leavenworth
818-998-2228
Deane.leavenworth@twcable.com

As I posted on the Moxi thread, I recently received from Adelphia a new digital Motorola box (non-HD).

Also, I assume that this exchange was made as Adelphia is getting ready to switch all of their analog channels to digital so that enough bandwidth is freed to accommodate more HD channels in the pipe.

However, what I don't like about this box exchange is:

1) I lost my grid guide.

2) I can no longer use the cable box to schedule and activate the vcr for recording. This includes no more "Instant Record".

3) I cannot delete channels from the channel list.

4) Whenever I hit the "Guide" button, the guide is displayed starting at channel 2, and not the channel I am currently watching (as was SOP of my old box). So if I am watching, say, 125 and I want to see what is on channels around 125, I have to page down a bunch of times to get there.

A real PITA if I am in the 400 range listening to music and I want to change to a different music channel but I want to peruse the offerings.

5) With the old box guide, if I hit "Guide" a second time, the show lineup over the next ten hours or so would display for the channel I was currently viewing in the guide. Not so with the new Motorola box.

So, if it is 3:00 in the afternoon, and I want to see what is on a particular channel later that night, I have to either scroll over in time a bunch or go to the menu and jump through a few hoops to get the display that I am seeking.

This new box sux. And I bet that I don't see any new HD channels any time soon.

Sigh... :mad:

pj1016

My Moxi is recording 'Cosby Show' on Nickelodeon even though I tell it to record 'Who's the Boss' It was recording the right show until recently and now even though the description says Who's the Boss the show is actually Cosby Show. What can I do?

So when is Moxi 3.2 coming. Tonight?

I checked this morning and it didn't change to 3.2. I asked several weeks ago the basis for thinking that 6/15 was the date and never got an answer. Because there was no basis for it. It'll come whenever it comes.

I checked this morning and it didn't change to 3.2. I asked several weeks ago the basis for thinking that 6/15 was the date and never got an answer. Because there was no basis for it. It'll come whenever it comes.


I believe the 6/15 date came from SoCalGuy-99 over on the MOXI thread. He's beta testing 3.2 and appears to have been told of the release date when he started his beta test. But as we know all to well, Adelphia has never hit a release date and I certainly didn't expect them to hit this one. As you state - It'll come whenever it comes.

bwb

Well 3.2 or not Adelphia has beem marketing VOD on 6/15.
I don't have it and I'm getting PO'd about the empty promises while the bills keep coming.
Where's the service credit????

Just called CS. They don't have a clue.

Just called CS. They don't have a clue.

Do they really ever? :confused:

Still no VOD or 3.2. I'll give them a week or then its DirecTV and broadcast basic.
Basically, in Ventura County, the excuse for the channel realignment was VOD. Note they added virtually nothing and they are taking away east coast feeds of premiums.

I received a letter dated "May 9" that says

"In addition, beginning June 15,digital premium customers will begin to receive access to Premium-on-Demand recordings from premium services you subscribe to at no additional cost, a $4.95 value"

Its got my account number on it, so I think it was filtered for my area.. Since Moxi is the only VOD DVR around here , I assumed that means 3.2 software.

I have a Moxi DVR and a Motorola 6200 box in my system. On the 6200 I had the red message light on it yesterday morning. It said something to the effect that on June 21 2005 from 1:00am to 5:00am the system would be unavailable for a channel upgrade. It went on to say DVR or HD content would not be affected.

Anybody else get this message? I have no idea what they could be talking about.

I'm in the Ventura County area.

Thanks,

Jim

The red light for the above message appeared on the Moto HD cable box at my place this morning.

Another message too:

"One moment please. This channel should be available shortly" appear on all channels above 99.

According to CS Adelphia is aware of the problem which is statewide. There is no estimate when service will be restored.

Adelphia just plain sucks out here in Thousand Oaks.

I'm moving, you see. Knowing that, from past experience, that service appointments are about three weeks out I call CS on June 8 and talk to Crystal about scheduling my service move for July 1.

She says all that I have to do is call 3-5 days in advance of my move, and they'll do the transfer on the move day. OK, cool.

So I call this morning to make the arrangements, but I'm told that the current residents of the house that I am buying haven't called with a shut-off notice so I can't be scheduled yet. However, once again I am told the 3-5 day lead time thing.

I get the current residents to call and cancel this afternoon, and then I just called to transfer the service.

Adelphia tells me that the earliest that they can turn me back on at the new house is July 13!

Unbelievable. Hard look at DirectTV coming up...

pj1016

Or, is Dish the way to go...?

pj1016

Dish!

I went from DirecTV to Adelphia due to incentives and the promise of Moxi. Moxi didn't cut it for me, and I went to Dish and the new 942 PVR. I have been a happy camper for two months now.

Ah, cschang...yes, I remember when you announced your switch on the Moxi thread...

I know nothing about satellite, so if you (or anyone else) have any advice regarding recommended Dish packages, things to *watch out* for, websites for education, etc., I'm all ears...

Thanks,

pj1016

pj,
ordering satellite TV is just like ordering cable TV. Just have a look www.dishnetwork.com.

Well my initial look at Dish reveals that the 942 HD receiver will cost me $700, and I will not be able to get local ABC, NBC, PBS, CBS and Fox in HD as I do now with Adelphia...

pj1016

pj,

Try the online ordering mechanism at www.dishnetwork.com.

You do not have to buy the 942, you can lease it just as you do the Moxi. There is an equipment upgrade charge of $250 for it.

For local HD channels you will need to use an OTA antenna.

Also, Dish now offers an additional 10 HD channels that were once part of Voom(if you can point a dish to the eastern horizon). Before local HD channels, Dish now offers 19 HD channels.

Curtis:

Try the online ordering mechanism at www.dishnetwork.com

I did...it returned an error after the first step. :D

You do not have to buy the 942, you can lease it just as you do the Moxi. There is an equipment upgrade charge of $250 for it.

OK, that's cool; I can't find where they offer that as an option...not that I don't believe you, of course.

For local HD channels you will need to use an OTA antenna.

Warning! Probable stupid question follows:

Does that OTA antenna feed the signal through the 942 so that I can record those channels?

I did find that it is possible to get local CBS HD if I get a second dish and if I am in a "qualifying market" (which I appear to be). Saw the Voom stuff for an extra $5; I guess that's cool, but I'm presently ambivalent as I have never seen the programming on those channels. Mo' is better though, I suppose... :)

Whoa. Just noticed that second dish must point to the eastern horizon thing. Hmm, at what angle from the horizon (azimuth?) must that thing point? 0? 45? That is, I have a two-story house to the east of my two-story, so I have to deal with that...

Thanks for the input, Curtis.

pj1016

Warning! Probable stupid question follows:

Does that OTA antenna feed the signal through the 942 so that I can record those channels?

I did find that it is possible to get local CBS HD if I get a second dish and if I am in a "qualifying market" (which I appear to be). Saw the Voom stuff for an extra $5; I guess that's cool, but I'm presently ambivalent as I have never seen the programming on those channels. Mo' is better though, I suppose... :)

Whoa. Just noticed that second dish must point to the eastern horizon thing. Hmm, at what angle from the horizon (azimuth?) must that thing point? 0? 45? That is, I have a two-story house to the east of my two-story, so I have to deal with that...

Thanks for the input, Curtis.

pj1016
The 942 has 3 tuners, including 1 for OTA. Therefore you can record 3 shows at once.

I don't think going Dish at this point is a good idea though. You are in a tough position with Adelphia being a lame duck though. I have the feeling you will be happy with Time Warner once they start to service your area.

If you go Dish then you are looking at a $250 non-refundable equipment fee for the 942, plus some installation costs, plus the cost of a large pre-amplified directional antenna for OTA locals put an installation cost for the antenna. For these reasons I switched from Dish to Comcast (and will soon come under the control of TW too). I hear great things about the 942, but I am concerned that Dish is starting to charge equipment fees and breaking from their previous business model. D* subs who had to purchase the equipment (because D* never offered lease options) are now upset that they are married to D* (because of the financial investment) while D* keeps watering down their HD-Lite.

I am using a $30 non-amplified OTA antenna with great success, which I installed on the roof myself. The DISH installer just needed to route the proper cableling, and did so at no charge. There is no charge for installing the 942 or satellite dish.

Also keep in mind, the 942 can be used by two TV's....one of them being a HDTV. The two TV's can be viewing different programs.

By the time the TW takeover of Adelphia is complete, I would be more than willing to look at them again for service. I don't think that will be shored up with customers seeing benefits for at least a year.

I am using a $30 non-amplified OTA antenna with great success, which I installed on the roof myself. The DISH installer just needed to route the proper cableling, and did so at no charge. There is no charge for installing the 942 or satellite dish.

Also keep in mind, the 942 can be used by two TV's....one of them being a HDTV. The two TV's can be viewing different programs.

By the time the TW takeover of Adelphia is complete, I would be more than willing to look at them again for service. I don't think that will be shored up with customers seeing benefits for at least a year.
Each person really should check out their own situation at AntennaWeb.

http://antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx

There is no way that a $30 antenna would work at my house. I am in the Santa Clarita Valley. The guy in Thousand Oaks is more like my situation than anyone at the beach.

Also, I have Dish thru SBC and they charge $100 for most everything, except for intial setup. I paid $100 to move to my new house. They wanted $100 to upgrade to HD programming (just to install 1 more coax line from the dish to the receiver). SBC doesn't even offer the 942, but if they did they would probably charge $100 just to connect a new STB. To put on anther dish for the Voom channels that would be another $100.

If you switch to Dish you could avoid install fees if you never need to make a change down the road.

Maybe that is the SBC fee structure.....I have not had to make any changes other than programming so far.

Why did you need an extra coax line to the receiver when going to HD? Yes, another dish for the Voom channels would be $100 if you already have Dish installed.....that includes the new dish and cabling.

Maybe that is the SBC fee structure.....I have not had to make any changes other than programming so far.

Why did you need an extra coax line to the receiver when going to HD? Yes, another dish for the Voom channels would be $100 if you already have Dish installed.....that includes the new dish and cabling.
To be specific, I never went to HD with Dish. We have the 522 DVR and my wife loves it. Since SBC does not offer a HD-DVR, an added coax line would be needed to add a 811 HD receiver to the 522 DVR unit I already have. If I upgraded to HD and added the Voom dish at the same time it would be $100. If I upgraded to HD (paying $100) then later wanted to add Voom, then it would be another $100. However there is no commitment with the SBC package. I will be dropping them without any repercussions, and it has been less than a year.

I went to the Dish site right now, imputted everything and this was the result without agreeing to a commitment term. I think $350 is too much of a startup cost when you are only leasing the equipment:

Getting Started
One Time Fees
LEASE EQUIPMENT UPGRADE
$250.00
Digital Home Plan Activation Fee
$49.99
EQUIPMENT INSTALL
$99.95
One Time Cost:$399.94
* You will receive a $49.99 credit on your first bill.

Monthly Fees
Equipment Fees
DISH Network DVR Service Fee $4.98
Programming Fees
America's Top 60 Plus (with locals) $36.99
Voom Original $5.00
DISH Network HD Pack $9.99
Subtotal:$56.96

I would agree that for many, the startup fee would be prohibitive, just as it was for me not wanting to pay for HDDirecTiVo.

But when I was looking at the level of service I was getting from Adelphia and their equipment (ie. picture on stations below channel 100 and Moxi), for me it was justifiable.....less than a buck a day. Going from SDDirecTiVo to HDMoxi/Adelphia was a lacking experience with me(from a PQ and DVR standpoint) which also made the $350 easier to swallow.

I initially got Moxi in February(I think) and here it is the last week of June, and the same issues exist. I switched to Dish two months ago, paid the $350, and have not had to deal with those issues.

Thanks for all of the great information, gentlemen.

Curtis: Do you get a grid-style guide with the 942?


Thanks,

pj1016

Thanks for all of the great information, gentlemen.

Curtis: Do you get a grid-style guide with the 942?


Thanks,

pj1016
Sure do.

Sure do.
I can pretty much guarantee that the 942 will be a superior piece of equipment and have a superior interface than anything you can get from a cable co. today.

My next solution from Thousand Oaks.

Keep broadcast basic with Adelphia.
Get a QAM cable box for HD OTA. or just get DTV and drop Adelphia if you like the NFL and have no pressing need for ABC HD.

Get satellite for premiums and other HDTV.

If you get a supervisor and you aren't new, you can usually talk them into it. Dish is better than DTV at flexibility if you threaten to drop them.

If you get customer retention at DTV, you can get some great deals as long as the dollar total is high enough. I like NFL so I'm leaning towards DTV, but I'm waiting for the August surprise.

So I just got my HDTV. As of right now I have no HD package. I tried to plug in my TV direct via coax, and see if by chance the channels came in, and its a no go. I have signed up to have a tech bring me a MOXI, and sign me up for the HD package. The wiring in my condo isnt the greatest. Many of my current digital channels dont come in because of low signal strength. They only used db4 cable through out the building.... Is adelphia HD going to be a lost cause??? What other options do I have to use a DVR and HD. It seems many people are happy with Satellite on this forum. I live in the South Pasadena area does Satellite work for anyone else here? Also is it possible for me to use an OTA antenna to recieve some HD channels. Thanks in advance for any responces.

So I just got my HDTV. As of right now I have no HD package. I tried to plug in my TV direct via coax, and see if by chance the channels came in, and its a no go. I have signed up to have a tech bring me a MOXI, and sign me up for the HD package. The wiring in my condo isnt the greatest. Many of my current digital channels dont come in because of low signal strength. They only used db4 cable through out the building.... Is adelphia HD going to be a lost cause??? What other options do I have to use a DVR and HD. It seems many people are happy with Satellite on this forum. I live in the South Pasadena area does Satellite work for anyone else here? Also is it possible for me to use an OTA antenna to recieve some HD channels. Thanks in advance for any responces.

I set up a friend in Pasadena with a Samsung HD Box and it gets more HD local channels than available on Adelphia. The Silver Sensor antenna makes a big difference.

The only reason cable is needed is the premium channels if you have even a glancing view of Mt. Wilson. The big problem in condos is multipath and the antenna choice makes a big difference.

Thought I would again ask about more HD and received the following reply:

"Thanks for your interest in HDNet and HDNet Movies! I verified that we are not currently in the Los Angeles area on Adelphia as of yet. Adelphia has launch our two channels in all their markets, but this is the last market of Adelphia that has not launched HDNet and HDNet Movies. It is due to the lack of bandwidth in their system and we are currently working with them to add our channels but there is not a definitive date at this time."

When asked why the lack of bandwidth? An adelphia employee cited "all the local stations they must carry."

I'm close to churning since I can get HDNET and other stuff on DTV. The only thing holding me back is the move to MPEG-4.

Just got my HD service and Moxi installed. All is good with the exception of ABC on channel 907. All the other channels work great but this one wont tune in at all. It says Im not subsccribed to that channel, and to call my cable company. Already had the Moxi zapped from the main office with no luck, and Im waiting on the technician to come back and take a look at it. I had the tech test for signal strength, and he said I had good levels when he was here. Does any one know the reason for this, Is anyone else in the South Pas, Highland Park area, with Eagle Rock as the central office having problems???

Thanks

Just got my HD service and Moxi installed. All is good with the exception of ABC on channel 907. All the other channels work great but this one wont tune in at all. It says Im not subsccribed to that channel, and to call my cable company. Already had the Moxi zapped from the main office with no luck, and Im waiting on the technician to come back and take a look at it. I had the tech test for signal strength, and he said I had good levels when he was here. Does any one know the reason for this, Is anyone else in the South Pas, Highland Park area, with Eagle Rock as the central office having problems???

Thanks

.If you're in SoCal Adelphia, ABC and a bunch of other channels were on the fritz yesterday. Are they back now?

No channels are back today. and my moxi is running really strange. Here is my post from the moxi forum, maybe someone knows the answer in here:

My moxi is also running painfully slow. I hit the Moxi button this morning and it took over 5 min just to get itself into guide mode. Once in guide mode moving from movies, to HD, to channels can take a super long time (Probably 30-60 sec) Once I select something to watch there is about a min delay till the watch, record , close dialog shows up. After I select watch, it can take for ever and a day , and tells me one moment. Sometimes its like 10 moments till it zooms in and displays the show. By the time I get all this dome, the show I wanted to watch is over half way done. Any suggestions? I just had the box installed yesterday, and have already had it zapped by the cable company. I am in SoCal adelphia area if that matters.

Thanks

.If you're in SoCal Adelphia, ABC and a bunch of other channels were on the fritz yesterday. Are they back now?

My mistake, I forgot which forum I was in. It's a Doh! :confused:

So im pretty bumed out with the performance of my digital cable, and HDTV with Adelphia. Can someone explain to me why I wouldnt want to go to Directv or Dish Networks? It seems like I could get all the channels I have now and more, all in digital. I would have no more crappy analog signals, no more rude customer service reps. Why has everyone not made the switch to a dish. Someone please enlighten me.

Thanks

So im pretty bumed out with the performance of my digital cable, and HDTV with Adelphia. Can someone explain to me why I wouldnt want to go to Directv or Dish Networks? It seems like I could get all the channels I have now and more, all in digital. I would have no more crappy analog signals, no more rude customer service reps. Why has everyone not made the switch to a dish. Someone please enlighten me.

Thanks
If you have no need for a HD-DVR then go with Dish. You can sign up through a place like SBC and not have a contract for maximum flexibility. However, by the end of the year (or at least within a year) you will probably want DirecTV or Time Warner Cable.

D* is rolling out mpeg4 and lease options for its HD-DVR, as well as launching other satellites to hopefully fix their HD-Lite problem. You may want Time Warner cable because they should do a much better job than Adelphia when they take over for them, and there are no contracts, no equipment fees and no antenna/dish assemblies. The problem I had wth Dish was that I didn't want to buy their HD-DVR, the lease option was very expensive, and I would still have needed a very large directional antenna to get HD locals.

I was looking for recomendations for HD in Newport Beach, I just got a Sony XBR960.

I called Adelphia, no wonder they went Ch 11, only offer locals plus ESPN for like $10 a month. I got an OTA antenna (CM 4228) which hopefully will get my all the LA HD channels, but looking for TNT, ESPN (all), Discovery, HDNet, and what ever else is available in HD.

Thanks in Advance!

I was looking for recomendations for HD in Newport Beach, I just got a Sony XBR960.

I called Adelphia, no wonder they went Ch 11, only offer locals plus ESPN for like $10 a month. I got an OTA antenna (CM 4228) which hopefully will get my all the LA HD channels, but looking for TNT, ESPN (all), Discovery, HDNet, and what ever else is available in HD.

Thanks in Advance!

I'm in West LA and A offers the "major" locals (no WB) Discovery and HBO, Sho, or Max in HD if you have the regular version already. ESPN-HD is $1.50 EXTRA!

I'm in West LA and A offers the "major" locals (no WB) Discovery and HBO, Sho, or Max in HD if you have the regular version already. ESPN-HD is $1.50 EXTRA!
Really? You get Discovery HD? I'm in Orange County (Fullerton office) and they don't offer Discovery HD here. :mad:

By the way, does FOX every actually show anything in HD? I've had it for a little over a week and I have yet to see anything on it in HD...

-Dan

Really? You get Discovery HD? I'm in Orange County (Fullerton office) and they don't offer Discovery HD here. :mad:

By the way, does FOX every actually show anything in HD? I've had it for a little over a week and I have yet to see anything on it in HD...

-Dan

Watch "House" tonight! Fox is one of the best, they actually had NASCAR races every weekend, thanks for the coverage NBC! American Idol is in HD and Baseball on the weekends too. Many Fox shows are in HD go to checkhd.com or titantv.
Discovery HDT is da-bomb BTW. Scream until they give it to you!

We don't have Discovery HD or Max HD here in Ventura County. They say bandwidth problems is why but I seem to get a different story everytime I ask.

New Cops episodes on Fox are in HD also.

Jim

go to checkhd.com
Cool site! Thanks.

We don't have Discovery HD or Max HD here in Ventura County. They say bandwidth problems is why but I seem to get a different story everytime I ask.

New Cops episodes on Fox are in HD also.

Jim

I had the same problem in Thousand Oaks. I moved to the next town over, Moorpark, and now I get Discovery and Cinemax.

Does anyone have any idea when Adelphia will release the HDDVR in the Temecula, CA area? I've been waiting for this since January. I was told it was going to be ready 1st quarter. I've called them several times and I cant get any answers...

Right now, I have DTV as well as Adelphia. I cant drop Adelpha because I have a cable modem with them and HD service, and I cant drop DTV since I have a Tivo hooked up to it and dont want to loose the recording capability. Frustrating!

Does anyone have any idea when Adelphia will release the HDDVR in the Temecula, CA area? I've been waiting for this since January. I was told it was going to be ready 1st quarter. I've called them several times and I cant get any answers...

Right now, I have DTV as well as Adelphia. I cant drop Adelpha because I have a cable modem with them and HD service, and I cant drop DTV since I have a Tivo hooked up to it and dont want to loose the recording capability. Frustrating!

Option: Ditch cable - get DSL and upgrade to DirecTV HD Tivo :)

I just noticed that Adelphia is now sending the local channels in SD. I did a scan with my QAM tuner and they showed up. Since I can not view encrypted channels, I don't know if they are sending all of the basic cable channels in SD. This is probably a test since all of the locals on my cable box are still analog. Hope they switch over soon.

octavian

I think all the basic channels are in SD with non-pay HD on QAM. They tend to move the HD-QAM channels around for stupid reasons and also test SD digital on QAM. I find them on 100-1 through 110-1 region on my LG-3410A. The lower ones(100+) are scrambled.

Option: Ditch cable - get DSL and upgrade to DirecTV HD Tivo :)

That would totally be an option, but I had DSL at one point and it sucked in my area.

I guess it depends on what I use more of. And now that the DTV HDDVR are a lot cheaper, if adelphia dosent do something soon, I'm going to take this route...

my buddy just upgraded to dish hd in corona, and it just seems for the price you dont get many channels in hd with dish. ill be going dtv hd :D

my buddy just upgraded to dish hd in corona, and it just seems for the price you dont get many channels in hd with dish. ill be going dtv hd :D

Well, I'm glad I've been reading up on things. I think I'm just going to wait until the mpeg4 HDDVR tuners come out before I do anything. And since were in the LA market, we should get all the locals as well. Its worth the wait...Unless Adelphia gets theirs out first...

I've noticed a new setting for the 6200's 4:3 override: Stretch. Don't know when it was added, perhaps with the latest "upgrade" from Adelphia this past week.

Anyone know exactly how it works? Going for the obvious, it would imply stretching of all 4:3 SD content as a default, but I don't see that. At least not for analog content.

I live in La Habra and currently have Adelphia cable. I've been thinking about getting HDTV through Adelphia but I don't like the feedback I am getting here. :(

Replying to BMWM3Rod

I have had the Adelphia Moto 6200 box and now have the Moxi Unit. I also have an over the air HD receiver that I bought before Adelphia offered HD

Most people, me included, only post our gripes. So what you read is a series of complaints. My experience is that both boxes work great 99.9% of the time.

When I've had a problem, A has solved them quickly(Although I've had to "suggest" set-up to the installer who had no clue to audio, etc.)--even a X-Mas eve trip by a service rep. 2 hours after my call.

Now, after about 1 year with the Moxi box, you couldn't take it away from me.

Yes there are problems--all minor--with the Moxi, but the advantages FAR outweigh the negatives. The recording and playback with skipping over commercials by itself is worth the extra few bucks a month for the Moxi.

I try to look at the Moxi as I do my computer. Both have things I would change. Both hiccup at times. Would I give up on computers because they are not perfect? Same reasoning with the Moxi. (Note to Moxiguy--Don't treat this a permission to stop improving the product!!)

My suggestion--Try the Moxi. Adelphia should install it for free. Play with it for a month. Use the suggestions posted here and under the Moxi Q & A thread.
If you don't like it, return the box to Adelphia. There is no contract to sign or long term commitment.

That said, if Adelphia would only give us Moxi 3.2 software and more HD content, I would be a happier camper.

Gary Einstein
Seal Beach

if Adelphia would only give us more HD content, I would be a happier camper.

I couldn't agree more with that part of your statement.

I guess I have to agree with Gary. I'm not about to give my Moxi back! There's a lot of things I wish they would improve, but it's better than not having it at all.

Regarding Adelphia's HD content itself: I'm not sure what channels you get in your area, but I'm underwhelmed with the HD content in the Fullerton area. That doesn't necessarily mean I'd give it back -- it just means I was disappointed when I realized how little HD content there really is.

-Dan

I noticed this doesn't come in anymore... is there a reason why Adelphia is charging an additional $1.50/mo. Since when did ESPN become a "pay station"??

Synchron :cool:

I noticed this doesn't come in anymore... is there a reason why Adelphia is charging an additional $1.50/mo. Since when did ESPN become a "pay station"??

Synchron :cool:
Because they can. :(

Now, after about 1 year with the Moxi box, you couldn't take it away from me.

Yes there are problems--all minor--with the Moxi, but the advantages FAR outweigh the negatives. The recording and playback with skipping over commercials by itself is worth the extra few bucks a month for the Moxi.

I try to look at the Moxi as I do my computer. Both have things I would change. Both hiccup at times. Would I give up on computers because they are not perfect? Same reasoning with the Moxi. (Note to Moxiguy--Don't treat this a permission to stop improving the product!!)Gary: I thank you for the note of support and guarantee that we're continuing to work on improvements. I was in the Adelphia booth at the Anaheim convention center Friday for a press preview in advance of the Home & Garden show. Adelphia was showing Moxi 3.2 software. I take it as a sign that they are feeling more comfortable with it. Not so comfortable that they're announcing a date... but they were showing it throughout the weekend.

We had "Fine Living" added on 131. Anyone else?

We had "Fine Living" added on 131. Anyone else?

Is that a network on living with Adelphia cable? :p

Jim

Is that a network on living with Adelphia cable? :p

Jim
No, that'd be more like "F*ed Up Living", wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

No, that'd be more like "F*ed Up Living", wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

Exactly! :D

Thanks for the response Greinstein.

I have more questions. Tried to do some searches but now I just have more of a headache.

I currently have Adelphia Basica Cable. I just realized my Panasonic 42in HD plasma has an QAM tuner and accordingly I'm able to pick up some HD channels. Only channel 4 comes in really good though. Channel 7 kind of goes in and out and pixels show up. Here are my questions:

1. If I get the Moxi unit...will this improve the reception? This HD signal I'm getting is from the Adelphia...right?

2. Does my Panasonic (50xu?) have an HD tuner/receiver built in? Is the signal coming through in this way? I just need an antenna to get a stronger signal?

3. Out of curiosity, if you have an OTA HD receiver...how do you switch between that and the Adelphia connection into your TV? Doesn't our HDTV's only have one coaxial input? :confused: Are you using the HDMI input?

I was wondering if I could get some advice from people as to how I should set things up in my home.

Background:

Every room is cable ready (coax connection). I have splitters galore in a box at the side of my house feeding the signal into every room.

Family Room
The cable signal is good. The good news is that I mainly watch TV in the family room for reguarl SD programming. The bad news is that I only have my 32 in Sony Tube TV in there. It wasn't feasible to set up my 5.1 home theatre system in the family room.

Living Room
The cable signal is not that great. Some channels come in fine and other regular SD channels look horrible. This is where I have the 42in Plasma set up. I didn't really plan on watching SD with this TV anyhow. Mainly will watch stuff in HD local and DVD's. Still I would like to improve the SD signal. Should I get a booster? Is this where I should get the Moxi?

Master Bedroom.
Cable signal is quite bad. Some channels barely come in while it is perfectly fine down stairs in the family room. I watch a lot of TV here. I have a 23in LCD Sony that I plan on putting here. How can I improve this signal too. I also want to watch HD programming here if possible. Oh...I have this line split too for the VCR and TV...oh and actually the Sony computer I have too. Not even sure if my Sony LCD can get local HD OTA. Sony KLV-S23A10 . :confused: I don't think I can. I would need a separate HD receiver?

Any advice is much appreciated :)

Just switched back to cable yesterday from DTV after about 3 years. The most important reason I switched back is the need for an OTA antenna to receive the local ch. in HD. Secondly, the HD offer on DTV [need to purchase an HD box], is not for me. Than, with the current promotion Adelphia is running, I can get more premium channels plus HD, at a lower price than with DTV. Sure, this lasts only 4 months and then it would be comparable with DTV prices for the same package. So I decided to give it a try. Until then hopefully DTV will improve their offering in HD.
First impression: the image quality seems to be on par with DTV. The HD ch. look great, similar or better than I can get from a good DVD. The only complain here is that the major networks broadcast some HD programs in 4:3, with CBS putting light gray bars on sides! On HBO, there's a clear quality difference between the regular digital ch. and HD. Same goes for SHO. KCET and Discovery are spectacular!
Switching between ch. though is rough, with severe flickering especially when moving between HD and other ch. Also is slow compared to DTV.
Equipment wise, there's a Moto HD box and a Moto Digital box. The HD box has composite cable, which is very hard duty, all 5 wires stuck together into a 2" wide band, hard to hide behind the tv or in the equipment stand. The digital box is standard connected to the tv with regular coaxial.
The remotes are too small, at least for my hands, and cramped with buttons. The button layout is far from being user friendly, with most accessed buttons placed in odd positions or too small. Two of the most used buttons, "last" and "fav" are so small and cramped by other buttons that are almost impossible to use w/o touching everything around them! There are buttons that are not in use [A, B, C] with regular boxes/cable, the functionality of the buttons is not intuitive, etc. The worst feature is the necesity to push 0 in before entering one digit ch. like 2, 4, etc. Further, since most of the ch. are located with 3 digits, you need to push them w/o visual feedback on screen since the display shows only 2 digits! For 223 for ex. you'll see on screen only 22, 3 not being shown!
Last but not least, the menu! The on screen menu is ages behind DTV. First, the appearance of text and graphics is so pixelized that some are hard to read. The highlighting of items on the menu is almost non discernable. The navigation through the menu is sub par. The layout is even worse! While on DTV you can see a period of 1.5h. and at least 5 ch. at the same time, here the time blocks are limited to 1/2 h. with no visual markers for hours on different channels. Apparently Adelphia chose to waste about 1/3 of the width of the menu display for some stupid advertising [like we dont' get enough through regular ch.] instead of extending the menu display. Every time you access the "guide" it starts with ch. 1 instead of the ch. where you are in! The favorites setup is only possible for 1 set of ch. not like 4 on the DTV. And as mentioned above, the navigation through favorites is almost impossible due to the small and crammped button. Secondly, there's no provision to exclude from the guide the ch. that are not in your favorite setup! Due to this fact, there's no way to navigate through the guide w/o seeing all channels all the time.
The ch. lineup is not user friendly either. Related ch. are spread appart, ESPN is fragmented in two blocks, etc. The current ch. info that shows when changing ch. is an opaque piece of graphic that takes about 1/3 of the height of the screen, blocking the view for at least 3sec. if you don't push another button, which is again too small. On DTV you can adjust the oppacity of the menu such as to see something through these info bars. And it's also thinner. Overall, the guide/menu features on these boxes/remotes are extremely anoying and make me almost regret that I've switched! Hopefully by the end of this promo period DTV will have some decent offerings so I can go back! Or maybe move to Dish.

Hi everyone,

I am a new Adelphia subscriber. Just purchased a 50" Hi Def TV and thought that it deserved something other than just SD. I opted for the HiDef DVR, AKA Moxi. So far I am happy with it but wondering if anybody out there is experiencing the following:

Ocassionally there will be no audio coming in on any SD channels. All channels above 100 will have audio but channels 2-99 will be silent. Don't know if it's a problem with Adelphia or a setting on the Moxi box. I'm thinking it's Adelphia since the problem is occasional.

I could call Adelphia, but I thought I'd try here first since one usually gets more experienced, knowledgable, and intelligent answers than when calling CSRs.

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone,

I am a new Adelphia subscriber. Just purchased a 50" Hi Def TV and thought that it deserved something other than just SD. I opted for the HiDef DVR, AKA Moxi. So far I am happy with it but wondering if anybody out there is experiencing the following:

Ocassionally there will be no audio coming in on any SD channels. All channels above 100 will have audio but channels 2-99 will be silent. Don't know if it's a problem with Adelphia or a setting on the Moxi box. I'm thinking it's Adelphia since the problem is occasional.

I could call Adelphia, but I thought I'd try here first since one usually gets more experienced, knowledgable, and intelligent answers than when calling CSRs.

Thanks in advance!
There's a thread dedicated to the Moxi. You can find it here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=412846) It's over 130 pages long, but contains lots of valuable info. Specifically, look for posts by splinke -- he has an FAQ that is wonderful.

To answer you question, the only time I've had problems with sound like this, if I switch up a channel and back down, it solves the problem. If that doesn't solve it for you, try posting on the other thread.

-Dan

Does anybody know if and when will the new iGuide be available in the Calabassas/Thousand Oaks area?

My ESPN-HD is out...anyone else?

pj1016

Out here also.

Jim

ESPN-HD, working in West LA.
7:10PM

Thanks, guys; it finally came back on...after the Angel game was over...of course.

pj1016

Thanks, guys; it finally came back on...after the Angel game was over...of course.

pj1016

Was it an intentional blackout?

No, shouldn't have been as the game was in Boston.

Plus, it was on the "regular" definition ESPN channel.

It was just "the man" holding us down. :p

pj1016

Has anyone used a HD OTA STB or HTPC HD card and able to receive Adelphia HD?

MOXI SOFTWARE VERSION 3.2 IS HERE. MANHATTAN BEACH. Just in time for Opening Day of the NFL. Settings now allows Native Pass Thru and the ticker bar at the bottom is much more stylish! Thank you ADELPHIA!!!

the moto (non Moxie) HD cable box also updated with a new iGuide

watch the demo here http://www.i-guide.tv/

My 1st impression is I like it. Quick & easy to navigate.

Does anybody have the new i-Guide installed yet in LA area/Ventura Co.?

Called the local Adelphia service center, the cust. service rep didn't even heard about this i-Guide!

the moto (non Moxie) HD cable box also updated with a new iGuide

watch the demo here http://www.i-guide.tv/

My 1st impression is I like it. Quick & easy to navigate.

Is it possible now to skip the ch. not on the favorite list?

Here in Diamond Bar, Ch. 938 appeared, "no program title". Anyone have any ideas what it could be?

Here in Diamond Bar, Ch. 938 appeared, "no program title". Anyone have any ideas what it could be?

Not on in West LA. What's the programming like??

Probably the same as yours. CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, PBS (KCET)HD'S, Discovery HD, ESPN-HD, HBO-HD, MAX-HD, SHO-HD. Quite a lineup, eh :rolleyes: ?
I forgot to add, all HD channels are 900 and up.

Dave

I see 938 too. I didn't see this last night. I hope it is either TNT or HDNet. :D

Probably the same as yours. CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, PBS (KCET)HD'S, Discovery HD, ESPN-HD, HBO-HD, MAX-HD, SHO-HD. Quite a lineup, eh :rolleyes: ?
I forgot to add, all HD channels are 900 and up.

Dave

I meant is anything running on 938 or it's just in the list with nothing on? I assume it's blank, cause you'd see a logo. Do'h.

I meant is anything running on 938 or it's just in the list with nothing on? I assume it's blank, cause you'd see a logo. Do'h.

Just blank, in the list of course, and no logo. ESPN2 HD?? TNT-HD?? At this point, anything HD is an improvment. Last HD channel added was Dec. last year.

Dave

938 = NFLHD

938 = NFLHD

This is good! It's not a pay channel like ESPN_HD, right??
:confused:

MOXI SOFTWARE VERSION 3.2 IS HERE. MANHATTAN BEACH. Just in time for Opening Day of the NFL. Settings now allows Native Pass Thru and the ticker bar at the bottom is much more stylish! Thank you ADELPHIA!!!

OMG THAT'S LIKE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM WEST LA

OMG THAT'S LIKE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM WEST LA

Checked mine this morning. Nothing new to report here. No 3.2 or new channels.

Jim

I have the 938 NO DATA AVAILABLE channel... it's sweet.

I have the 938 NO DATA AVAILABLE channel... it's sweet.
Waaaaaaa. I can't get it here! I want it. I WANT IT!!!

(Actually, I haven't even looked to see if I get it. I like to complain before I check out the facts.)

-Dan

I have 938, now, too! :D I'm so excited, I could ;)
Imagine how excited we'll be when there's content!

I have channel 938 now too! NFL Network in HD! Something was actually in HD earlier today, but i forgot what it was.

NFL Network in HD was definatley a nice suprise.

Im in Anaheim with cablecard.

This channel appeared on my channel list, but when I try to turn it on, it says "data not available." The programs listed seem like they are all football related, but no games are listed. My hope is that this channel will be more than NFL stuff -- maybe pick up the TNT HD basketball games or some hockey. 24 hours of NFL interview shows repeated constantly seems like a big waste of space.

Also, still Moxi 3.0 in Encino.

Is anyone else actually getting programing on 938?

Is anyone else actually getting programing on 938?

Was on yesterday in my area, Ventura Co.

Is anyone else actually getting programing on 938?

Mine is still blank with no info at all.

Was on yesterday in my area, Ventura Co.

Where in Ventura County? We had nothing new here yesterday. I'm using a Moxi and can't see any new channels. I'll check again tonight.

Thanks

Jim

East Ventura co., Agoura Hills.

To receive NFL Network HD you must be a subscriber of digital basic & digital plus.

To receive NFL Network HD you must be a subscriber of digital basic & digital plus.

I've got all of those plus ESPN-HD and two HD movie channels. Still nothing tonight. Even checked the channel list to see if I needed to check it there. :confused: Still no 3.2 either. Any other ideas?

Jim

I've got all of those plus ESPN-HD and two HD movie channels. Still nothing tonight. Even checked the channel list to see if I needed to check it there. :confused: Still no 3.2 either. Any other ideas?

Jim

Me too, exactly. :confused:

UPDATE!! I now have programming on 938! It's in SD the NFL Channel.
So is this like ESPN-HD, mostly in SD?? Need something to complain about! ;-)

"So is this like ESPN-HD, mostly in SD??"

when the network launched one program was offered in HD

"NFL FILMS Presents: Game of the Week"

they have since doubled their HD and now two weekly condensed games are in HD

"So is this like ESPN-HD, mostly in SD??"

when the network launched one program was offered in HD

"NFL FILMS Presents: Game of the Week"

they have since doubled their HD and now two weekly condensed games are in HD

Oh joy! This is what Adelphia brings? No InHD et al, no TNT-HD, no ESPN2-HD??

Oh joy! This is what Adelphia brings? No InHD et al, no TNT-HD, no ESPN2-HD??

I even wish our area could get Max-HD and Discovery-HD that some other people have started getting. I don't think we will get much in the way of any decent HD stuff till we get some new owners. Which makes me wonder has anybody heard anything lately on the change over? I haven't read anything about it in a while now. Can't happen soon enough for me. Hopefully we will get some upgrades in Ventura County and more HD channel choices.

Jim

Well at least you guys have HD Cable available, I have a new set and I can only get OTA signals on my set.

I am in Sherman Oaks and Adelphia still cannot give me an ETA for the High Def to hit my street. If it was not for the being locked into a contract I might opt for Direct TV HD.

Anyone in my area hear anything from Adelphia on HD for my area?

Now that the NFL channel is on, I gotta say-- it's useless. It appears that there's not one program on in HD. But I have to hand it to the hardworking, dedicated folks at Adelphia -- they managed to get that channel up and running on the first Sunday of the NFL season. I congratulate them on meeting what must have been an actual deadline, unlike the rollout of Moxi 3.2, which they are doing on a much more casual pace. In fact, I think all the people who worked their butts off getting that NFL channel working should take a couple weeks off now, get some rest, and then come back and work on 3.2 -- that is unless the Soap Opera 2 channel takes priority.

Now that the NFL channel is on, I gotta say-- it's useless. It appears that there's not one program on in HD.
Is that kinda like a male cow? :D

Is that kinda like a male cow? :D

LOL, or, as my grandfather used to say, "as useless as tits on a bull."

I just returned home from vacation and see the new program guide software for my moto 6200, and it seems to be not only more attractive/functional, but also DVR friendly. I bailed on MOXI about 9 mos. ago, but its software/guide was totally different, of course. So what's up with this change? For other 3rd party, non-HD DVRs?

Is that kinda like a male cow? :D

We really do need a County Faire!

"We really do need a County Faire!" :) And now for something completely hybrid.


NFL Network did present 54 preseason games in their entirety. Some of which were carried live if I am not mistaken.

"We really do need a County Faire!" :) And now for something completely hybrid.


NFL Network did present 54 preseason games in their entirety. Some of which were carried live if I am not mistaken.

But, were any in HD?

We really do need a County Faire!
Ya got that right, Ole English, what with all the mall rats we have here in SoCal.

What’s freaky is……………….it appears that you and I watch and/or listen to the same TV channels both in the evening AND the morning !
:eek:

We really do need a County Faire!
On the other hand, maybe we don’t………..This just in from Reggie the Gator in the Lake…………….

"Despite recent rumors to my previous capture, I still be happy and free! :D :D

Catch me if you can you squids but, I want all rights to the film and future DVD sales."

Reggie the Gator in the Lake :D

I had a technician out this morning to fix my Moxi (no channel guide.) He mentioned they would be adding more HD in the next few months. He Nextel'd the supervisor and she said they would begin testing it at their office tormorrow. Claimed not to know what channels though.

On the other hand, maybe we don’t………..This just in from Reggie the Gator in the Lake…………….

"Despite recent rumors to my previous capture, I still be happy and free! :D :D

Catch me if you can you squids but, I want all rights to the film and future DVD sales."

Reggie the Gator in the Lake :D

Got me, don't know Reggie! ;)

I had a technician out this morning to fix my Moxi (no channel guide.) He mentioned they would be adding more HD in the next few months. He Nextel'd the supervisor and she said they would begin testing it at their office tormorrow. Claimed not to know what channels though.

My "insiders" insist the next channel after NFL-HD is Logo-HD! Oh joy! :eek:
Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Oh NO! 24 hours of Will & Grace?

I never heard of Logo before, so I just looked it up. Forget it. I don't want anymore unwatchable channels. Between NFL and all gay tv, I'm really starting to appreciate Sunrise Earth. In fact, maybe we'll get a HD channel that plays nothing but Sunrise Earth!

WTF is Logo HD?? And when??

And why can't the Angels (Go Angels!!) and Dodgers be in HD like the damn Padres, Giants, and A's

KCAL 9 will broadcast Dodgers games starting in 2006. The Angels are seeking a new over-the-air TV partner. Will this spur local sports in HD ota and cable?

My "insiders" insist the next channel after NFL-HD is Logo-HD! Oh joy! :eek:
Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Why are they implementing more HD channels, when some of us don't even get all the channels that are available now?! I still don't get DiscoveryHD or CinemaxHD!! I can care less about NFL HD or Logo.

Why are they implementing more HD channels, when some of us don't even get all the channels that are available now?! I still don't get DiscoveryHD or CinemaxHD!! I can care less about NFL HD or Logo.

Dang, no Cinemax HD? Cinemax is the best movie channel

OMG! NFL-HD is ACTUALLY running a program in HD!!! It's some game of the week show. 1PM PAC time.
:eek:

I'm in West Hollywood and I don't have 3.2 yet. Tried tuning into channel 938. Program guide said no information, tuned into the channel anyway. Got a picture w/ intermittent pixelation and sound. Anyone else have 3.2 yet or is it just Manhattan Beach?

Anyone else having pixelation problems with ESPN-HD (939) and ABC-HD (907) this weekend? No other station is showing this, and, since both of these are broadcast in 720p, I'm wondering if that's the source of the problem somehow. I get the same problem if I view thru my JVC 5U (via firewire) which displays each station's native resolution, so I'm ruling out conversion problems with the moto 6200 (component out at 1080i).

Sunday Night NFL Football Kansas City Chiefs vs Oakland Raiders looks great on ESPN HD via Adelphia in LA

Thanks, bgooch. The problem seems to have corrected itself. Must have been a localized problem (Eagle Rock office).

Just put the Angel's game on FSN and noticed it was 4:3. No more crappy Moxi "stretch" mode. SD channels look a little better, less noisy. Have yet to check if the update enabled the DVI port.

Dave

Yep my Moxi updated to 3.2 overnight here. Finally :D

I'll check out the DVI and some SD stuff tonight when I get home. Now if they would just add some more HD channels here in the Ventura/Oxnard area.

Later,

Jim

Has MOXI in the Los Feliz/Silverlake/Eagle Rock area (Eagle Rock head office) been updated to 3.2 yet? I gave up on MOXI last fall, but if the new software is out, I might give it another shot.

No update for 3.2 in Eagle Rock / Silverlake.

Still waiting.....

Why aren't you folks using the MOXI AVS forum for your updating, more concentrated source of info.

Finally 3.2 has arrived on my Moxi box. I'm in WLA/Santa Monica area. Seems snappier to use at first glance with quicker response.

When I purchased my HDTV with built in tuner in April, I was surprised to see how many local channels are broadcasting digital, and how few take advantage of their digital spectrum to broadcast true HDTV. I am almost as disappointed with this as I am with Adelphia's long, long promised upgrade in my area. Still can't get HDTV on cable in Van Nuys/Sherman Oaks, though Adelphia sure sends out a lot of literature advertising it. I might say that I am also disappointed with KCET's (PBS) lack of HDTV programming, even though PBS was a pioneer in the field.

I have moved on to Directv. At least I get a good picture on standard digital. Still use standard Directivo box. I am waiting for Direct's new HDTV receiver/recorder box. I hear they will be rented, rather than purchased. Here again, Direct is slow to develope, but not nearly as slow as Adelphia.

It seems the only people who are up to date are the manufacturers/sellers of HDTVs.

3.2 has also arrived in South Gate, CA (suburb of L.A.) --Quality on Analog picture still looks horrible. VOD Button still does nothing. so far all i can tell you that the update does is let you watch non HD images with the SideBars. also you can scan quicker through the menus. this sucks...i hate Adelphia. Extremely high Prices for Extremely crappy picture. ... i was looking forward to the 'Games' feature on the Moxi box as well but i guess not.

3.2 has also arrived in South Gate, CA (suburb of L.A.) --Quality on Analog picture still looks horrible. VOD Button still does nothing. so far all i can tell you that the update does is let you watch non HD images with the SideBars. also you can scan quicker through the menus. this sucks...i hate Adelphia. Extremely high Prices for Extremely crappy picture. ... i was looking forward to the 'Games' feature on the Moxi box as well but i guess not.

Games? I don't need a Moxi for games. It'd be nice if it just worked for the basics.

Does anybody have a list of subchannels for Adelphia Santa Monica?
I just bought a Pio 4350 and the media box can pick up plenty of subchannels. But I'm tired of laboriously going thorugh the entire universe of numbers.
For instance, turning to subchannel 103.006 will get Fox.
Turning to 101.001 will get CBS.
Does anyone have a more complete list of subchannels?
Thanks

I am about 2 weeks into my first HDTV and loving it! I have Adelphia Basic cable (Ontario, CA 91786) and my intial hook-up only gave me ABC, CBS, and PBS in HD via the built-in QAM(?) tuner. I still wanted Fox/KTTV and NBC and was sure I could get it somehow without adding an STB or CableCard from Adelphia. After discovering the many, many sub-channels my HDTV located and looking through just about each one, I found my other stations!

Anyhow, in hopes that this helps someone else out, I found these sub-channels:

Adelphia Ontario, 91786
CBS 2.1
ABC 7.1
NBC 94.0
FOX 100.03

I also found a series of digital music channels starting at channel 81-1. Again, this is all with just my HD tuner and Adelphia Basic cable. Best of luck!

In West LA we're having a major Adelphia outage of some sort. CBS is on but most of the channels below 14 are off. All the HD channels are gone too. Many of the 14+ channels are OK. Any other areas?

In West LA we're having a major Adelphia outage of some sort. CBS is on but most of the channels below 14 are off. All the HD channels are gone too. Many of the 14+ channels are OK. Any other areas?

Same here in Redondo. And ZERO customer service. :mad:

Same in hollywood (eagle rock).. Support number has been disconnected too.

Oh well, guess I'll catch Lost next season.

:confused:

Same in Los Feliz.

Joe

I've been a lurker over on the Moxi boards watching the unfolding of the 3.2 saga, and I thought I could rest easy when that sucker came through last week (I'm in Atwater Village...which is the Eagle Rock Adelphia). So I just noticed my Moxi isn't recording Lost or anything else and after a quick check of the rest of the house, indeed the cable is totally down. Funny thing is, my Adelphia cable internet is working great as always. Man, someone screwed up big time. Maybe they hired the same guy that outed Los Angeles power a few weeks ago. Or Moxi 3.2 really had some unforeseen bugs. Or they really don't want anyone to know what's down in that Lost hatch. Oh well, I think I'm gonna go listen to Adelphia's customer service busy signal some more.

In West LA we're having a major Adelphia outage of some sort. CBS is on but most of the channels below 14 are off. All the HD channels are gone too. Many of the 14+ channels are OK. Any other areas?


Same problems here in West Hollywood.

GOD I am mad right now. I can't believe they wait until the night I've been waiting for all week to screw up their service.
Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it?
What can I expect in the way of compensation? I guess just the 25 bucks or whatever they give you for big complainers.
Anyone else reading this as mad as I am?

No outage here so it may have been an L.A. area problem. Could it be anything to do with the fires or is that to far away from the problems.

Maybe the guy Adelphia has holding that antenna/dish up on the hill had to leave his post :D

I spoke to Adelphia finally, and they blamed it on a "fiber-cut".

I blame it on poor service.

I spoke to Adelphia finally, and they blamed it on a "fiber-cut".

I blame it on poor service.

Maybe they need the CSI folks to find the "fiber"??

On another note. This morning the channels are all back, but, I have a CableCard in my living room HDTV. I've noticed in the recent past that audio from it was in sync with other TVs that are connected directly to the cable. This morning, it's out of sync by about 5 seconds, just like I'm going through a box of some sort? Did they make the CC pure digital now, maybe because of the "fiber cut"?? :confused:

I just wrote the letter below to ESPN. Is anyone else pissed off like I am??

"Hello,

I am paying Adelphia $1.50 extra each month for ESPN-HD. Why?? I admit, I'm a fool. Today is an example. I sat down to watch the NY Yakees/Boston Redsox game on ESPN-HD. Why is the game NOT in HD, why are you even bothering? I have ESPN on my regular cable. There is no need to broadcast it on ESPN-HD if it's NOT in HD. On top of which, I pay $1.50 extra each and every month to see Chris Berman's fat a$$ in 16:9 HD! Why!?!?!? What is the point?? Where is the content??? This is not the first time I've been pissed by this technique you pull off, it's just the straw. I want an answer, and not from a bot!
Joseph Spiegel
About to pull the plug and save $1.50!"

Same in hollywood (eagle rock).. Support number has been disconnected too.

Oh well, guess I'll catch Lost next season.

:confused:

I saw on the "Hollywood Report" on KABC 7 tonight they are going to replay Lost after Moday Night Football this week.

Just FYI.

Jim

Excellent! Thanks, Jim.

I just wrote the letter below to ESPN. Is anyone else pissed off like I am??

"Hello,

I am paying Adelphia $1.50 extra each month for ESPN-HD. Why?? I admit, I'm a fool. Today is an example. I sat down to watch the NY Yakees/Boston Redsox game on ESPN-HD. Why is the game NOT in HD, why are you even bothering? I have ESPN on my regular cable. There is no need to broadcast it on ESPN-HD if it's NOT in HD. On top of which, I pay $1.50 extra each and every month to see Chris Berman's fat a$$ in 16:9 HD! Why!?!?!? What is the point?? Where is the content??? This is not the first time I've been pissed by this technique you pull off, it's just the straw. I want an answer, and not from a bot!
Joseph Spiegel
About to pull the plug and save $1.50!"

I'm curious Joe. What exactly do you want ESPN to do? Should ESPN-HD go dark when the programming isn't available in HD? There has to be a transition period. It's simply going to take years before everything is in HD. That's the simple reality.

I'm curious Joe. What exactly do you want ESPN to do? Should ESPN-HD go dark when the programming isn't available in HD? There has to be a transition period. It's simply going to take years before everything is in HD. That's the simple reality.
Good question, and I'd have to say I'd rather they broadcast it than not, because at least it's digital so the PQ is a little better (IMO).

However something still confuses me. If Friday's game wasn't shown in HD, how come Saturday's was when it was shown on Fox? So OK, they probably don't use the same cameras, but you can't blame it on the ballpark not being able to handle HD technology. So what was ESPN doing with their HD cameras? I mean, it's not like the game was "just another game."

I understand Joe's frustration, and I agree. I guess it's just frustrating that there's not as much HD programming as we would all like, and it's particularly frustrating when ESPNHD charges $1.50 a month and then doesn't deliver HD broadcasts when there's no apparent reason why not.

-Dan

I'm curious Joe. What exactly do you want ESPN to do? Should ESPN-HD go dark when the programming isn't available in HD? There has to be a transition period. It's simply going to take years before everything is in HD. That's the simple reality.
Maybe they should stop charging extra for a service they don't provide. I'll stop paying but that's not the right solution. What really pissed me off was EVERY time I wanted to actually watch a game on ESPN-HD, in the past few weeks, it's been in SD. YES thay SHOULD go dark, I have ESPN on channel 39 for free.
:mad:

Good question, and I'd have to say I'd rather they broadcast it than not, because at least it's digital so the PQ is a little better (IMO).

However something still confuses me. If Friday's game wasn't shown in HD, how come Saturday's was when it was shown on Fox? So OK, they probably don't use the same cameras, but you can't blame it on the ballpark not being able to handle HD technology. So what was ESPN doing with their HD cameras? I mean, it's not like the game was "just another game."

I understand Joe's frustration, and I agree. I guess it's just frustrating that there's not as much HD programming as we would all like, and it's particularly frustrating when ESPNHD charges $1.50 a month and then doesn't deliver HD broadcasts when there's no apparent reason why not.

-Dan

On top of that, it was when I saw a Yanks/BoSox game earlier in the season on ESPN-HD that made me subscribe, so they've had cameras at both of these parks before, just not AT THE CLIMAX OF THE SEASON! :eek:

On top of that, it was when I saw a Yanks/BoSox game earlier in the season on ESPN-HD that made me subscribe, so they've had cameras at both of these parks before, just not AT THE CLIMAX OF THE SEASON! :eek:
I hear you, brother! At least it's in HD today... (he says while posting during a commercial).

-Dan

YES thay SHOULD go dark, I have ESPN on channel 39 for free.
:mad:
I would rather see dancin girls during the SD broadcasting rather than complete darkness. :D