I want to swap a standard digital cable box for a digital (non-moxi) box with DVR.

Adelphia says that I can't just bring my old box in to do a swap; they have to come out to my house. Of course, there is a $25 charge.

Do they have to come out and do something besides just plug the box in? Any way around this?

I mean, if it just a matter of plugging the box in and calling adelphia to tell them it's plugged-in, I don't need a tech to do that!

Thanks,

pj

I want to swap a standard digital cable box for a digital (non-moxi) box with DVR.

Adelphia says that I can't just bring my old box in to do a swap; they have to come out to my house. Of course, there is a $25 charge.

Do they have to come out and do something besides just plug the box in? Any way around this?

I mean, if it just a matter of plugging the box in and calling adelphia to tell them it's plugged-in, I don't need a tech to do that!

Thanks,

pj

My exact argument. But, they use their Nextel phones to call home and we can't do that. I argue any install that I can do is someting they can't charge $25 for. They don't listen. Luckily my installers were late and I called in and got a credit! It was for my cablecard install, at the time the Moxi was a free install. :mad:

My exact argument. But, they use their Nextel phones to call home and we can't do that. I argue any install that I can do is someting they can't charge $25 for. They don't listen. Luckily my installers were late and I called in and got a credit! It was for my cablecard install, at the time the Moxi was a free install. :mad:

So, your MoxiCEOship, what you're are saying is that I will soon be out $25? :(

pj

So, your MoxiCEOship, what your'e are saying is that I will soon be out $25? :(

pj

Hope they're late and call!
;)

Just a FYI....

Last night, I tried a FusionHDTV5 lite (version 3.3beta2) here in Chino, CA on Adelphia. Anything that is not analog is encrypted. In the channel list after auto-scan, 95% of the digital channels show 'encrypt' the other 5%, that does not show encrypted, give me a black screen. Digital channels 101-130 shows 8VSB, not encrypted, but when I try to tune to them, I get a 'No Signal'.

I guess I have to keep paying them $20 extra a month to rent the HD tuners. :(

(Daily Variety Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/01/25/1314634.htm
WASHINGTON January 25, 2006

Satcaster EchoStar has told the FCC that it should approve the proposed Time Warner/Comcast acquisition of bankrupt cabler Adelphia only if regulators require the two companies to make their programming available to any other distributor on an a la carte basis and at a stand-alone price.

EchoStar in turn pledged to make a la carte programming available to its customers.

Big cablers have historically opposed anything but packaged programming and pricing, relenting only recently to demands that family tiers be offered. EchoStar hopes to appeal to FCC chairman Kevin J. Martin's stated preference for a la carte offerings.

Satcaster has opposed the acquisition in ex parte filings with the Federal Communications Commission, which is still weighing whether to approve the deal. EchoStar proposed conditions for approval in its latest filing, submitted Monday to the FCC.

With the commission split evenly between Republicans and Democrats, it remains unclear when Martin will seek a vote on approval.

January 25, 2006 08:00 AM US Eastern Timezone
The Good News on VoIP -- Reliability Improves on Latest Keynote Study of Internet Telephone Service; The Bad News -- Audio Clarity Still Lags Far Behind Traditional Phone Service
SAN MATEO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 25, 2006--Keynote Systems (Nasdaq:KEYN):

-- Time Warner Digital Phone Ranks First for Both Reliability and Audio Clarity Among VoIP Providers, Edging out Winners in First Study

-- Verizon DSL Most Reliable Network Carrier with Time Warner Cable Modem Service Winning as Carrier with Best Audio Clarity

-- AOL TotalTalk, AT&T CallVantage, EarthLink trueVoice, Packet 8, Primus Lingo, SunRocket, Time Warner Digital Phone, Verizon VoiceWing, via:talk, Vonage and Vonics Digital Included in Study

-- VoIP Competitive Monitoring Solution Announced

New competitive intelligence from the second Keynote VoIP Competitive Intelligence Study of Internet telephone service was released today by Keynote Systems (Nasdaq:KEYN), The Internet Performance Authority(R). The study revealed that while reliability has improved since the first Keynote study in June, 2005, the need still exists for considerable improvement in overall audio clarity from the leading providers of Internet telephone service (VoIP). In order to benchmark and rank the quality of consumer VoIP services, Keynote measured eleven leading VoIP service providers on critical performance factors that influence the end-user experience using Keynote's VoIP Competitive Monitoring Solution.

Time Warner Digital Phone ranked first in the November/December Keynote study as the overall best VoIP service provider for both reliability and audio clarity, edging out the winning service providers, Vonage and AT&T CallVantage respectively, in the June study. Overall reliability is a computed index score based on performance measurements in three performance factors: service availability, average number of dial attempts, and dropped calls. Time Warner Digital Phone's average availability for the entire measurement period was 99.91% contrasted with the lowest ranking provider coming in at 95.51%. Keynote found a significant gap in reliability and audio clarity between Time Warner Digital Phone and the lowest ranking providers.

Service Availability of VoIP providers has improved, with calls now completed 99.1% of the time across all VoIP providers in the November/December study. The average service availability of all VoIP providers was just 96.9% in June. The top providers were available 99.7% to 99.9% of the time -- a significant improvement. All providers included in the last study and this one have improved in service availability.

Time Warner Digital Phone was one of three VoIP service providers in this study to achieve "toll quality" audio. The Mean Opinion Score (MOS) of three VoIP service providers exceeded 4.0 out of 5, a threshold that none of the VoIP service providers in the June study were able to achieve. Time Warner Digital Phone's average MOS was 4.11, the best of all VoIP service providers measured in the study. There continues to be a large performance gap between VoIP providers with the best average audio quality and those with the worst average audio quality. Three providers, Time Warner, Vonage and Verizon, now have an average MOS over the 4.0 threshold for "toll quality," but five of the eleven providers in the study still have an average MOS lower than 3.5.

Although the top performers in the consumer VoIP services market have improved the quality of call audio, Keynote found that there was no significant change in the overall amount of audio delay present in VoIP calls over the past six months. Calls placed on VoIP phones continue to have up to twice as much audio delay as calls placed on traditional PSTN phones, which can lead to conversational disruption. The importance of conversation disruption grows with the importance of the information being imparted during a conversation. Overlapping conversation breaks down human ability to understand when to stop or start talking resulting in disruption of conversation and missed information, which creates frustration among users and inefficiency in business dealings.

The second Keynote VoIP Competitive Intelligence Study, just as the one conducted in June of 2005, assessed the market readiness of VoIP service in the New York and San Francisco metro areas, compared VoIP service providers for reliability and audio clarity over consumer cable, consumer DSL and business class network carriers, and evaluated network carrier performance on end user perceived call quality. The current study was expanded from six providers in the first study (see press release July 12, 2005) to eleven providers, including AOL TotalTalk (NYSE:TWX), AT&T CallVantage(NYSE:ATT), EarthLink trueVoice (Nasdaq:ELNK), Packet 8, Primus Lingo (Nasdaq:PRTL), SunRocket, Time Warner Digital Phone (NYSE:TWX), Verizon VoiceWing (NYSE:VZ), via:talk, Vonage and Vonics Digital. Data for this study was collected over a six week period, from November 18 through December 31.

The Keynote study provides an objective assessment of these critical performance factors that affect end-users' perception of a VoIP service. While several providers and networks did well in certain areas, no single provider or network dominated the study in all metrics considered. The results of the study indicate that although overall reliability of VoIP service providers has improved, even the top providers are still performing below Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) standards and almost half the VoIP service providers measured in the study have an average MOS that is not just below the standard for "toll quality" audio, but well below the standards for wireless phones.

The Keynote study found that the underlying network carrier makes a difference in VoIP service reliability and audio clarity. To understand the impact of underlying network performance on call quality, the VoIP telephone calls were carried on three network providers in each city: Time Warner Cable (NYSE:TWX), Sprint (NYSE:PCS) and Verizon DSL (NYSE:VZ) in New York and Comcast Cable (Nasdaq:CMCSK), SBC DSL (NYSE:SBC) and Sprint business-class network in San Francisco. Verizon DSL was found to be the Most Reliable network carrier in the study, and Time Warner Cable Modem service was found to provide the Best Audio Clarity for calls made with all VoIP service providers measured in the study.

Analysts estimate that residential adoption of VoIP service will grow to over 26 million homes in 2008 in the US, up from 6.5 Million in 2004. The SMB and enterprise market forecasts are equally aggressive. Even so, VoIP reliability and audio clarity remain important factors that limit the widespread adoption of VoIP in consumer markets. A high rate of customer churn makes it difficult for carriers to break even. Some analysts estimate it can take as long as four years for some VoIP service providers to recoup the marketing and other costs associated with luring a subscriber.

"The consumer market VoIP performance gap in three areas studied by Keynote, service availability, average MOS and call delay could represent millions of dollars in lost revenue to service providers if customers get frustrated and change providers," said J. Jeffrey Nudler, senior analyst, Enterprise Management Associates. "The Keynote study is more exhaustive than any I have seen to date and the results, although not surprising, are very interesting with significant implications for the VoIP industry."

"As the number of VoIP providers and subscribers rises, users will have more choices and will switch companies if they do not receive the quality they desire," said Dharmesh Thakker, senior product manager at Keynote. "Indeed, Keynote found in its first study that VoIP providers were able to complete calls only 96.9% of the time with a Mean Opinion Score (MOS) of less than 3.5 -- and that trend has continued for those ranking in the bottom of the second study. It should not be surprising then that 52% of respondents in a recent survey by Harris Interactive indicated VoIP call quality as a key barrier to adoption."

The study highlights the areas to which up-and-coming providers need to pay special attention in order to provide high service quality to end-users. Enterprises can also learn industry best practices they can implement during their branch-office VoIP deployments and when rolling out converged customer-care applications, to maximize employee productivity and retain high customer satisfaction.

With this study and the general release of the Keynote VoIP Competitive Monitoring Solution, Keynote continues to extend its expertise to embrace emerging technologies such as VoIP, streaming and wireless, which increasingly are core technologies of the enterprise. As Voice over Internet Protocol emerges as an influential technology that promises to cut consumer phone bills and enterprise communications expenses, the Keynote rankings help assess VoIP readiness and highlight market leadership among the various providers.

How the Study Was Conducted

The Keynote VoIP Competitive Intelligence Study was conducted using Keynote's VoIP Perspective agent technology to evaluate critical performance factors that affect the consumer's experience with Internet telephone service, in the New York and San Francisco markets. The study, based on an industry-standard methodology, helps service providers enhance their end-user experience and reduce customer attrition rates dramatically.

The study objectively ranked leading providers on critical factors that influence service quality for end-user experience when making VoIP calls. The study also analyzed various diagnostic metrics that contribute to the service performance factors and evaluated the impact of the underlying network carriers on the VoIP quality perceived by end-users. All calls were placed using Keynote VoIP Perspective(R) agents, which place actual calls across a VoIP service provider network to provide a realistic end user perspective.

Keynote placed local and long distance VoIP calls to destination phone numbers on a standard (PSTN) phone service. Calls were placed from San Francisco and New York once every 30 minutes on every VoIP provider and network carrier combination. A total of 190,000 calls were placed during the study, resulting in over 17,500 calls per VoIP service provider and over 30,000 calls per network carrier. Calls placed using VoIP providers were compared to traditional phone "toll quality" standards to determine what residential customers can expect when switching from traditional phone lines to VoIP.

To quantify the end-user experience, Keynote identified ten key performance factors based on multiple network and audio fidelity metrics that are collected during each call. These performance factors, to which every VoIP provider and network carrier should pay attention to ensure quality calls, include:

-- Service Availability -- the percentage of call attempts that were successful

-- Average number of call attempts -- how many times, on average, a caller must dial to place a call

-- Dropped Calls -- the number of times a call terminated prematurely

-- Outage Minutes -- periods of extended service unavailability

-- Average MOS (Mean Opinion Score) measured using the ITU-T P.862 standard algorithm also known as Perceptual Evaluation of Speech Quality (PESQ) Percentage of Calls With an Acceptable MOS

-- MOS geographic uniformity -- a measure of the uniformity of MOS across different calling routes

-- Average Audio Delay -- The number of milliseconds of delay from one end of the call to the other

-- Percentage of Calls with an Acceptable Audio Delay

-- Audio Delay Geographic Uniformity

Keynote aggregated these ten factors into two distinct performance indices -- Reliability and Audio Clarity. The Reliability index formula includes service availability, the average number of dial attempts, and dropped calls. The Audio Clarity index is computed based on a weighted average of the Average Mean Opinion Score (MOS) and Average Audio Delay including adjustments for percentage of calls below minimum acceptable thresholds and high geographic variability.

http://www.keynote.com/solutions/ci_VoIP.html.

Residents to be served by new cable firm
By Kyle Jorrey kjorrey@theacorn.com
http://www.toacorn.com/news/2006/0126/Front_Page/103.html

The Thousand Oaks City Council adopted a resolution Tuesday night to transfer control of the city’s cable franchise agreement from Adelphia to Comcast and to a future change of control to Time Warner Cable.

The action is another step among many legal requirements that are specified by the federal government before it will approve a $17.6-billion deal for cable giants Comcast and Time Warner to jointly purchase Adelphia Communications. The action is expected to have little or no shortterm effect on the city’s estimated 38,000 Adelphia subscribers.

“The change in ownership will not affect cost,” said Tom Mitzee, director of the city’s Community and Cultural Services Department. “From the customers’ point-ofview, the only thing that will change, initially, is who they write the check to.”

As part of the deal that was struck in April 2005, Comcast and Time Warner Cable, the nation’s No. 1 and 2 cable operators respectively, agreed to swap certain cable operations to give each other a greater concentration of customers in a particular new service area. Tuesday’s vote by the council will enable the transaction to move forward in Thousand Oaks. Comcast is expected to hand over control of the city’s cable TV franchise to Time Warner not long after the billion-dollar deal gets final approval. The deal is expected to be finalized in the next 60 to 90 days.

In the meantime, the deal is still awaiting consent of a bankruptcy court that’s overseeing Adelphia’s operations. The once-thriving cable company announced its high-profile collapse in June 2002 amid accusations of corporate wrongdoing. Adelphia has been T.O.’s cable provider since 1999.

According to T.O. City Attorney Amy Albano, who’s been working with representatives from all three cable firms, there is only a slight chance that Comcast, and not Time Warner, will become the city’s long-term cable provider.

“(Comcast) could be our operator from 90 days to six months . . . but everyone’s expectation is that Time Warner Cable will eventually be our operator,” Albano said. “We have a written transfer agreement as such.”

Regardless of which company takes over, both have agreed to extend the city’s current cable franchise agreement, which expired in September, at least 4½ years. This stipulation, according to Albano, played a big role in the city’s decision to consent to the transfer.

“We felt it was really important to the city to have an extension of the franchise because we have a really good franchise agreement that benefits the citizens of Thousand Oaks,” Albano said. “First, it provides for revenue to the city to help pay for services . . . and second, it provides for access to public access channels that are important to everyone in the community.”

According to Albano, the transfers from Adelphia to Comcast and then from Comcast to Time Warner could happen at different times or right in a row, the latter being preferable.

“The best-case scenario is that all transfers happen in a row,” the city attorney said.

Officials from both Time Warner and Comcast have said the change will allow them to offer Adelphia customers higher-end services they don’t currently have. Some cable subscribers apparently don’t have digital video recorders (DVRs), programming on demand, and Internet and phone services.

Thousand Oaks cable TV subscribers probably won’t notice the changeover when it happens, Albano and Mitzee said.

“In the short term, they’re not going to see a big difference. But we believe that eventually, as Time Warner takes over, we’ll see some difference in the products they have to offer,” Albano said. “It’s going to take a while for everything to sort of shake out, but as of now, they have to live within our franchise.”

As part of the council’s consent for transfer of services, the city included a provision to start good faith renewal negotiation of the franchise with Time Warner after two years and with Comcast after six months.

Though the city still lacks the healthy competition it once enjoyed when T.O. customers could choose between Verizon and Adelphia, Albano said she hopes the continued presence of satellite TV will help enable competitiveness.

“Hopefully, that does moderate the marketplace on what’s charged,” Albano said.

According to a bankruptcy judge, a group of debtholders seems to be threatening the sale of the company's assets to Time Warner and Comcast to gain leverage for its own position.
Stephen Taub, CFO.com
http://www.cfo.com/article.cfm/5459268/c_5439158?f=home_todayinfinance

January 26, 2006

Is the $17.6 billion reorganization of Adelphia Communications Corp. in jeopardy?

According to the New York Law Journal, the presiding judge said that the attempt by one group of creditors to appoint a trustee to oversee disputes between different groups of bondholders, and the disqualification of chief Adelphia bankruptcy counsel Willkie Farr & Gallagher, constituted a "nuclear war button" threatening the deal.

That bankruptcy judge, Robert Gerber of the Southern District of New York, earlier this week denied the appointment of a trustee. Gerber did disqualify Willkie lawyers from participating in the disputes, according to the Law Journal, which noted that Willkie is still Adelphia's bankruptcy counsel.

As is typical, observed the Law Journal, each group of debtholders wants to extract the largest possible distribution from Adelphia's assets, most of which are to be sold to Time Warner and Comcast for $17.6 billion. Gerber reportedly stated that to gain leverage in the debtholder negotiations, one group seemingly made the disqualification and trustee motions to "purposefully" imperil the sale. "If the sale transaction is not consummated," he added, "there will be severe, negative economic impact on all of the debtors."

One consequence, if the transaction failed to close, would be that Adelphia might owe the media giants a $443 million breakup fee, the judge reportedly stated. Gerber also observed that the appointment of a trustee would have constituted a default event under the agreement that provided Adelphia with $1.3 billion in debtor-in-possession financing, the Law Journal reported.

"Where interdebtor issues exist and are material, they cannot, of course, be swept under the rug….But the means established to resolve them should be the least destructive available," Gerber reportedly wrote. "And neither the interests of a debtor's creditor body, nor the integrity of the bankruptcy system, can tolerate the use of motions like these as a tactic to assist creditor groups wishing to augment their personal recoveries."

Law.com
http://biz.yahoo.com/law/060126/1b5f3ffe5ed62ab9fa3a231d7a2c5b3e.html?.v=1

Thursday January 26, 3:01 am ET
Anthony Lin, New York Law Journal

In a decision released Wednesday in the Chapter 11 bankruptcy of cable company Adelphia Communications, the presiding judge said the motions by which one group of creditors sought the appointment of a trustee to oversee disputes and the disqualification of chief Adelphia bankruptcy counsel Willkie Farr & Gallagher constituted a "nuclear war button" threatening obliteration of a crucial $17.6 billion deal.

Southern District of New York Bankruptcy Judge Robert Gerber's strongly worded 113-page decision, In re Adelphia, 02-41729, previously filed under seal, clarified his order issued earlier in the week denying the appointment of a trustee but granting the disqualification of Willkie lawyers from participating in the disputes at issue. Willkie remains bankruptcy counsel to Adelphia.

Those disputes, which the requested trustee would have overseen, are between different groups of debt holders, all seeking to maximize their own claims on the bankruptcy estate, most of the assets of which are slated to be sold to rival cable companies Time Warner and Comcast for $17.6 billion.

The potential appointment of a bankruptcy trustee is almost always controversial, as such trustees are usually granted broad-ranging powers to settle disputes or dispose of assets.

Gerber said the disqualification and trustee motions, brought in November by noteholders of Arahova, a subsidiary through which Adelphia issued some $540 million in debt, seemed designed to "purposefully" imperil that sale as part of a "scorched earth litigation strategy" aimed at extracting a larger distribution by threatening dire consequences for all.

"The relief sought by the Arahova Noteholders Committee could (and, in some circumstances, will) give Time Warner and Comcast the right to terminate the Purchase Agreements," he wrote. "If the sale transaction is not consummated, there will be severe, negative economic impact on all of the Debtors, including the subsidiaries of Arahova."

The judge pointed out Adelphia could owe Time Warner and Comcast a $443 million breakup fee if the transaction failed to close. He further noted the appointment of a trustee would constitute a default event under the agreement that provided Adelphia with $1.3 billion in debtor-in-possession financing.

"Where interdebtor issues exist and are material, they cannot, of course, be swept under the rug ... But the means established to resolve them should be the least destructive available," the judge wrote. "And neither the interests of a debtor's creditor body, nor the integrity of the bankruptcy system, can tolerate the use of motions like these as a tactic to assist creditor groups wishing to augment their personal recoveries."

Gerber noted that similar disputes among creditors had been a feature of other major bankruptcies, including those of WorldCom Inc., and Enron Corp.

Southern District Bankruptcy Judge Arthur Gonzalez, who oversaw both of those cases, appointed a trustee in neither, citing in the former the complexity of the case and the expense and delay that familiarizing a trustee would entail.

Likewise, Gerber said the case's complexity as well as the cost and delay involved weighed heavily against the appointment of a trustee. Moreover, "[t]he Balkanization of the decision making in this case would be highly damaging to all of the debtors, and their creditors, and the Arahova Debtors and their creditors would be no exception," he said.

NEUTRAL POSITION

Though he denied the motion to appoint a trustee, Gerber granted the disqualification of Willkie and further directed the recusal of Arahova managers with regard to disputes between creditors. But he made clear he felt the lawyers and executives had already voluntarily acted to maintain their neutrality in those disputes and his ruling was merely "prophylactic."

"[Willkie] has done nothing wrong," the judge wrote. "But the prophylactic imposition of mandatory neutrality on [Willkie] on interdebtor issues would not cause [Willkie], or the debtors, any material prejudice either."

Willkie has represented Adelphia since its 2002 bankruptcy filing amid charges that the Rigases, the company's founding family, looted it of hundreds of millions of dollars. The judge said the firm has played little role in the creditors' disputes beyond a neutral role of providing parties with information.

But the Arahova noteholders had originally sought to disqualify the law firm generally, barring it even from continuing work on the Time Warner/Comcast sale. This, Gerber said, would have been a disaster for the company.

"[Willkie] has acquired an extraordinary expertise in Adelphia affairs," the judge wrote, "and has performed its responsibilities with distinction. The loss of either of those especially at this late date, would be terrible for creditors, and would materially delay, if not torpedo, the Debtor's timely reorganization."

The Arahova noteholders were represented by J. Christopher Shore and Thomas Lauria of White & Case. The lawyers from Willkie leading the case have been Marc Abrams and Roger Netzer. Both sides declined to comment.

What the heck, I just received my new bill and there is yet another rate change notice as of March. All the "valuepaks" and "advantagepaks" are going up a buck. HDTV receiver and DVR receiver are going up a buck. Digital basic is going up a buck. Multichannel premiums up by 2 bucks (each). They have added a HDTV Plus Tier for $5. It supposedly includes ESPN-HD, ESPN2-HD, inHD, inHD2, HDNet, HDNet Movies and NFL-HD. Also included is the notice that Starz On Demand will be $1.95 (as mentioned before). It notes that you must have Starz to even get Starz On Demand. There is a note that says current NFL-HD viewers will need to subscribe after March 1 which means it will no longer be free.

This had better mean that all those stations will be online March 1st. It says nothing about whether the separate subscription to ESPN-HD will remain for $1.50 per month. Should we start taking bets on whether we will have to make calls to get service credits when some of us actually subscribe to this and the channels are not online in time?

Will someone please just buy this dang company. These rate hikes are ridiculous. The note at the top is a joke "In order to provide exceptional products and services and to keep pace with rising operating costs, some of our residential rates will be adjusted. While many rates remain unchanged, the new rates will be effective with your March billing statement". What exactly stayed the same (maybe classic cable or regular receivers)?

Adelphia says that I can't just bring my old box in to do a swap; they have to come out to my house. Of course, there is a $25 charge.

Do they have to come out and do something besides just plug the box in? Any way around this?
Well, we just got the Moxi installed today (Redondo Beach). Once he plugged it in, and went to some setup menu, it listed our name, address, etc. He checked the signal levels, but didn't adjust anything. It all just worked.

Last week when we called, my roommate complained about the install fee, and they waived it, so long as we hooked up the box ourselves, which were were MORE than happy to do. He said to call back the next day (Fri) to verify the box was ready for pickup.

So Fri comes, he calls, and they say "oh no..we MUST install it ourselves..but we'll waive the install fee" and have an appt for Wed 5-7 PM. 7:15 rolls around, no show. A call back, and they claim "we tried to call to reschedule" which they never did.

But at least it works. I still wish we could get more HD stations. :-(

-Jake

Will someone please just buy this dang company. These rate hikes are ridiculous. The note at the top is a joke "In order to provide exceptional products and services and to keep pace with rising operating costs, some of our residential rates will be adjusted. While many rates remain unchanged, the new rates will be effective with your March billing statement". What exactly stayed the same (maybe classic cable or regular receivers)?

A company will charge for a product whatever they can get. We can complain all we want here in the forum, and complain to Adelphia. It is unfortunate that it is impossible to switch to another cable provider like we can always switch to another mobile phone service provider.

With all this in mind, what you can do is make a point with your wallet. Sit down and really think what channels do you absolutely have to have. For $12/month, the broadcast cable includes 6 unscrambled hi-def channels: ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS, and DISC_HD. It also includes CNN, ESPN, and ESPN2 in analog. I don't pay for a cable box or PVR since I have an HTPC with a digital TV tuner. I more or less regularly watch: American Idol, CSI, Desperate Housewives, Lost, Numbers, Grey's anatomy, Commander in chief, Saturday night live, Will & Grace - that is 11 hrs each week (actually really more like 8-9 since I skip the commercials), and they are all in glorius hi-def.

For movies, you can get the $20 3-at a time Netflix subscription which will give you complete freedom over which movies you watch and when. Not only that, you can also get all TV shows - including the ones on premium channels on DVDs these days.

Given I also have a full time job, spend 8 hrs/week at the gym, and have an active social life, I don't really have any more time to watch TV.

A company will charge for a product whatever they can get. We can complain all we want here in the forum, and complain to Adelphia. It is unfortunate that it is impossible to switch to another cable provider like we can always switch to another mobile phone service provider.

With all this in mind, what you can do is make a point with your wallet. Sit down and really think what channels do you absolutely have to have. For $12/month, the broadcast cable includes 6 unscrambled hi-def channels: ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS, and DISC_HD. It also includes CNN, ESPN, and ESPN2 in analog. I don't pay for a cable box or PVR since I have an HTPC with a digital TV tuner. I more or less regularly watch: American Idol, CSI, Desperate Housewives, Lost, Numbers, Grey's anatomy, Commander in chief, Saturday night live, Will & Grace - that is 11 hrs each week (actually really more like 8-9 since I skip the commercials), and they are all in glorius hi-def.

For movies, you can get the $20 3-at a time Netflix subscription which will give you complete freedom over which movies you watch and when. Not only that, you can also get all TV shows - including the ones on premium channels on DVDs these days.

Given I also have a full time job, spend 8 hrs/week at the gym, and have an active social life, I don't really have any more time to watch TV.

Point well taken, and made. We do need to vote with our dollars. It is time to try and reduce the "nut".

I haven't seen any notices here about any price increases or adding any new channels. Last time I asked about new HD channels (last month) Adelphia said we were at the limit of our current system in this area. Don't know if that is true or the normal BS.

I agree if they do start adding price increases it will be time to let them know how we feel with phone calls cancelling services.

I have been so looking forward to Adelphia going away but it is taking so long to happen. Way to long.....

Jim

onastov

if everything you watch is on the major networks have you attempted to pick them up ota?

How about the PCI PC card like the Fusion III Gold QAM HDTV Tuner Card? Is that a good one?

the tivo im my bedroom notified me of channel lineup change.

930 DHD
938 NFLHD

have been added however my moxi doesn't show them but it may be a sign of things to come. Too bad its too little to late now that verizon is nearly finished with the fios install I'm sure the whole town will be lit soon and I just read about a few people in CA ordering tv from verizon so I hopefully can expect camarillo to get tv before years end. BYE BYE adelphia, hello hdnet.

onastov

if everything you watch is on the major networks have you attempted to pick them up ota?

How about the PCI PC card like the Fusion III Gold QAM HDTV Tuner Card? Is that a good one?

Unfortunately, the Hollywood Hills block Mt. Wilson for me completely. Months ago I attempted an OTA with the Silver Sensor antenna and a preamp, and was only barely able to get FOX.

The Fusion card you mentioned is the one I have, and I've had no issues with it. There is now a newer hardware revision (Fusion 5). The software is a bit buggy, but is being updated regularly.

the tivo im my bedroom notified me of channel lineup change.

930 DHD
938 NFLHD

have been added however my moxi doesn't show them but it may be a sign of things to come. Too bad its too little to late now that verizon is nearly finished with the fios install I'm sure the whole town will be lit soon and I just read about a few people in CA ordering tv from verizon so I hopefully can expect camarillo to get tv before years end. BYE BYE adelphia, hello hdnet.

I may have spoke to soon,

just got a message on my standard box that they will be having a free preview of hdnet, hdnet movies, epsn2, nfl network coming in the beginning of feb. Awesome stuff.

I may have spoke to soon,

just got a message on my standard box that they will be having a free preview of hdnet, hdnet movies, epsn2, nfl network coming in the beginning of feb. Awesome stuff.

I just got my bill and in addition to the HD channels discussed earlier they list INHD and INHD2. Not sure if they really mean it or some other areas of the country have that and they didn't regionalize it. :confused:

I just got my bill and in addition to the HD channels discussed earlier they list INHD and INHD2. Not sure if they really mean it or some other areas of the country have that and they didn't regionalize it. :confused:

I hope that they regionalized it, otherwise that means that some areas will pay $5 for a package that contains less HD channels than what others get for the same price under the exact same package name from the same company. That would raise a red flag for me. I could see paying $5 for that lineup (I already pay the $1.50 for ESPN-HD alone), but if they start hacking out channels because I'm not in the correct market, like down to what I currently get for free, I'd start thinking about a Dish + Antenna combo.

February 1, 2006
From Reuters

U.S. antitrust authorities said Tuesday that they had approved plans by Time Warner Inc. and Comcast Corp. to buy cable operator Adelphia Communications Corp.

The Federal Trade Commission said its bureau of competition had closed its seven-month investigation into the deal without taking action.

In April, Adelphia accepted a buyout offer from Time Warner and Comcast valued at an estimated $17.6 billion in cash and stock.

The FTC's five commissioners did not vote on the matter. But in a statement, three commissioners, including Chairwoman Deborah Majoras, said they agreed with staffers in the competition bureau.

"The evidence obtained during the investigation does not suggest that the proposed transactions are likely to substantially lessen competition in any geographic region in the United States," the three commissioners said in the statement.

The remaining two commissioners said they agreed partially, but they also expressed "serious concerns" that the companies could raise the price of sports programming for some rivals.

Adelphia collapsed into bankruptcy protection in 2002 after the company's founding Rigas family siphoned off millions of dollars for personal use and overstated key financial results.

The deal will cement Time Warner's position as the No. 2 U.S. cable operator as it gains a stronghold in the lucrative Los Angeles market that could boost growth.

Comcast is the No. 1 U.S. cable operator. The deal will unwind its 21% stake in Time Warner Cable and Time Warner Entertainment.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-adelphia1feb01,1,4246055.story

I will get my HDTV with tuner built in on 2/8, with an installation of a $1.50 cable card from Adelphia on 2/14.

This their a line of channels available in the Temecula, CA area with only the Cable Card installation?

Anyone has Adelphia in this area, have any luck with OTA antenna??



Happy to be on HDTV fast track,

Thanks.

I will get my HDTV with tuner built in on 2/8, with an installation of a $1.50 cable card from Adelphia on 2/14.

Check your first bill to see if it is really only $1.50, seems to me that Joe or somebody else said that Adelphia has a hidden cost in there to bump the price up a little more.

Kind of like a penalty tax for not paying the "full" amount for one of their receivers or DVR's. :rolleyes:

Check your first bill to see if it is really only $1.50, seems to me that Joe or somebody else said that Adelphia has a hidden cost in there to bump the price up a little more.

Kind of like a penalty tax for not paying the "full" amount for one of their receivers or DVR's. :rolleyes:

Correct. If the cable card is your only digital device it's $1.75. If you have a Moxi or other digital device it's $4.75. Not withstanding any pending price hikes.
What ever the first device is it gets the discout, then watch out! :eek:

Hey guys,
We got Channel 7 news (local) in HD now !
Did anybody see the first broadcast after Grey's Anatomy ?

I noticed the female anchor was purty heavy with the make-up........perhaps a tad scared of dem HD cams? :eek:

The first HD news broadcast was actually on Saturday, 2/4.

I'm loving it, although I'm sure the anchors aren't. Plastic surgery won't even work anymore... leading to mandatory retirement at age 30.

bwb

The first HD news broadcast was actually on Saturday, 2/4.
bwb
Wow, I didn't even realize that.(I normally tune into #904)

I'm lucky I watched the Super Bowl then. :)

At least I didn't miss too much HD.

The Adelphia Deadlock
The FCC Is Split and Lobbyists Want Conditions Put on The Sale of the Cable-System Operator’s Assets
By Ted Hearn 2/6/2006

Washington— Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Inc. could be forced to renounce exclusive sports-programming deals and pledge to keep their high-speed Internet lines open to all forms of Web content and commerce before federal regulators allow them to acquire the assets of Adelphia Communications Corp.

The reason, according to analysts and executives familiar with the state of proceedings on the divvying up of Adelphia assets between the nation’s two largest cable operators, is a Federal Communications Commission that is divided along political and ideological lines.

FCC chairman Kevin Martin, a Republican appointee of President Bush, is trying to run the five-member agency without a GOP majority. He and fellow Republican commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate will be hard-pressed to approve the Adelphia deal without the consent of at least one FCC Democrat, either Michael Copps or Jonathan Adelstein.
Deal Time: How the 'Shot Clock’ Has Worked
The FCC attempts to finish a merger review within 180 days. But its 180-day shot clock is informal, not binding. At times, the agency will stop the clock if it has sought additional documents from a merger party or to wait for the Justice Department or Federal Trade Commission to act.

Merger/year Days under FCC Review Days clock stopped Total

AOL-Time Warner 2000-01 179 111 290
EchoStar-DirecTV 2001-02 157 138 295
Comcast-AT&T Broadband 2002 188 42 230
Comcast-Time Warner-Adelphia 242 0 242
2005-06 (as of Feb. 1, 2005)
Source: Federal Communications Commission

“Until we get a fifth commissioner, conditions are a foregone conclusion. The only question is what the conditions will require,” said Scott Cleland, a media and telecommunications analyst with Precursor Inc.

The Federal Trade Commission, which passes judgment on antitrust issues, approved the sale of Adelphia assets for $12.7 billion in cash and 16% of Time Warner Cable’s shares last Tuesday. But by law, the FCC — which determines whether transfers of communications companies’ assets are in the public interest — must still give the nod to the Adelphia split-up.

In this case, the review is being conducted by the FCC’s Media Bureau staff. An aide to one FCC member said that as of last week, the bureau’s staff had not yet sent any recommendations to commissoners.

Direct-broadcast satellite providers DirecTV Inc. and EchoStar Communications Corp., who compete with Comcast and Time Warner Cable, are seeking merger conditions related to sports programming. And public-interest groups represented by the Media Access Project, a Washington, D.C.-based public interest law firm, are seeking assurances that the cable companies won’t play favorites among Web services that want to use their networks to reach homes and businesses.

Last fall, Martin had to yield to a raft of conditions demanded by Copps and Adelstein in order to finish work on SBC Communications Inc.’s takeover of AT&T Corp. and the merger of Verizon Communications Inc. with MCI Inc.

Both phone companies agreed to comply, for two years, with FCC “network neutrality” principles — policies that allow Web companies to offer video, music, news and other services over broadband facilities without interference from cable and phone company network owners that enjoy gatekeeper status.

Foes of the Adelphia merger are hoping for a repeat performance — that Copps and Adelstein will hold up the merger until Comcast and Time Warner voluntarily renounce any exclusive program-carriage deals and, like the two Baby Bells, agree to network-neutrality principles.

“This the time for the FCC to make a stand, particularly Copps and Adelstein,” said Jeff Chester, president of the Center for Digital Democracy, a group asking the agency to reject the Adelphia merger. “If these guys want this transaction approved, they need Copps and Adelstein, and public-interest groups are at their point of maximum leverage, theoretically.”

Conditioning Exercise

Who wants what before the FCC approves the Adelphia deal:

Demand: Ban Comcast and Time Warner from holding exclusive rights to programming from regional sports networks
Who wants it: DirecTV and EchoStar
Why: Concerned about program parity
Outlook: Unlikely program-access rules will change
Demand: Require Comcast and Time Warner to enter arbitration to settle any license-fee disputes if sports network programming is offered to competitors
Who wants it: DirecTV and EchoStar
Why: Concerned about rate-gouging
Outlook: Possible
Demand: Require Comcast and Time Warner to carry channels with limited reach
Who wants it: The America Channel
Why: Network can’t get carriage from two largest cable operators
Outlook: Unlikely
Demand: Require Comcast and Time Warner to sell programming from affiliated parties to their competitors on an a la carte basis
Who wants it: EchoStar
Why: Seeking to end the wholesale bundling of networks
Outlook: Unlikely
Demand: Mandate adherence to FCC’s network-neutrality principles
Who wants it: Various public-interest groups
Why: Concerned about competition and free speech
Outlook: Possible
SOURCE: Multichannel News Research

The breakup of Adelphia has been before the FTC and FCC for eight months, a long time for a merger review (See “Deal Time,” p. 13). But last Tuesday, the GOP-controlled FTC approved the Adelphia merger without conditions.

In examining the sports programming issue, the FTC’s Bureau of Competition determined the Adelphia merger would not diminish DirecTV and EchoStar’s access to regional sports programming controlled by Comcast and Time Warner, nor would it lead to higher programming costs.

The proposed transactions “are unlikely to make the hypothesized foreclosure or cost-raising strategies profitable for either Comcast or Time Warner,” FTC Republicans Deborah Platt Majoras, William E. Kovacic and J. Thomas Rosch said in a joint statement.
“We are gratified by this action. We believe these transactions have substantial benefits for American consumers, and look forward to the timely completion of the FCC’s review process,” Comcast spokesman Tim Fitzpatrick said.

When the FCC party-line voting logjam will end can’t be predicted. The White House declined to confirm reports that President Bush had agreed to nominate Robert McDowell, an executive with a small phone company trade association in D.C., to fill the commission’s GOP vacancy.

Last April, Time Warner and Comcast agreed to purchase Adelphia’s 5.2 million subscribers in a transaction that included multiple systems swaps designed to beef up the clusters of subscribers each has in different regions of the country.

Although Adelphia has lost about 200,000 basic video subscribers since April, Comcast is expected to exit the deal with about 23.3 million subscribers, while Time Warner Cable will count 14.3 million customers. That will make them the No. 1 and No. 3 pay-TV providers in the country.

DirecTV and EchoStar’s Dish Network, which will rank as the second- and fourth-largest pay-TV providers, are pressuring the FCC to put conditions on the manner in which their cable competitors are allowed to distribute programming.

CONDITIONAL PROGRAMMING

The two satellite-TV giants — which combine to serve about 27 million subscribers — fear that Time Warner and Comcast will use their dominant position in top local markets to secure sports and other programming deals that satellite either can’t get or can get only on lopsided economic terms.

“I think the point that we are trying to make is that once they gain dominance in a market, they either withhold the programming from us completely, or they charge us what we consider discriminatory rates,” said DirecTV vice president of government relations Susan Eid.

The Los Angeles market is an example of how the Adelphia deal will realign a local pay TV footprint.

Time Warner will pick up 500,000 subscribers from Comcast in Los Angeles, giving Time Warner 70% of the market’s 2.7 million pay TV subscribers. The direct-broadcast satellite carriers argue that Time Warner offers so much local size that even unaffiliated programmers — especially sports networks — will be easily tempted either to freeze out satellite providers or demand license fees much higher than what cable pays.

“There is something magnetic about sports programming. It is must-have programming for customers in many places,” said David Moskowitz, EchoStar’s general counsel and executive vice president.

At a Senate Commerce Committee hearing last week, Comcast vice president Joe Waz said the satellite carriers have exaggerated the importance of sports programming. Although DirecTV and EchoStar insist their inability to carry Comcast SportsNet, the Comcast-owned regional sports network in Philadelphia, has cost them subscribers, Waz said those statements were not consistent with the facts.

“In Philadelphia, DirecTV and Dish Network have a market share of about 12%. That’s higher than Boston, higher than Springfield [Mass.], higher than New Haven [Conn.], almost as high as Baltimore [and] higher than several other major urban markets,” Waz said. “So there has to be something else at work besides the absence of sports programming on DirecTV in that market to account for those numbers.”

DirecTV and EchoStar have asked the FCC to address their concerns by banning Comcast and Time Warner from maintaining exclusive deals with regional sports networks and to impose compulsory arbitration if the satellite carriers believe they are being gouged on license fees.

In a solo move, EchoStar made another demand late last year: the FCC should require Comcast and Time Warner to wholesale all their programming services, such as Comcast’s The Golf Channel, to satellite on a la carte basis.

Even before announcement of the Adelphia merger, DirecTV and EchoStar complained that Comcast refused to sell them its Philadelphia sports network, the pay-TV home of the National Hockey League’s Philadelphia Flyers, the National Basketball Association’s 76ers and Major League Baseball’s Phillies. Comcast owns the Flyers and 76ers.

In this dispute, Comcast has had the law on its side. Under section 628 of the Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992, cable operators are required to provide their satellite-delivered networks to any pay TV distributor. Since Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia is delivered terrestrially, Comcast said the section did not apply. The FCC agreed in a ruling affirmed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in June 2002.

Nevertheless, DirecTV and EchoStar want the Adelphia deal conditioned on gaining access to CSN Philadelphia and other exclusive sports channels. Intervention is necessary, the satellite firms insisted, because the Phildelphia model is spreading to places like Charlotte, N.C., where Time Warner Cable has sole rights to Bobcats NBA games on its turf.

“Philadelphia is the poster child,” DirecTV executive vice president of programming Dan Fawcett told the Senate panel.

Comcast and Time Warner counter that exclusive deals are the exception, not the rule. They also point out that DirecTV’s exclusive deal to distribute the National Football League’s “NFL Sunday Ticket” package of out-of-market games is an example of giving a satellite provider a clear edge over cable.

“The single most valuable — and exclusive — sports package today is the NFL Sunday Ticket, and it is not available on cable. Comcast’s content, in contrast, is widely available to competitors at nondiscriminatory prices and terms and that will not change as a result of the Adelphia transactions,” Comcast executive vice president David Cohen said.

SMALL WHACKS

Small players have taken whacks at the big cable deal. The America Channel (TAC), a network that plans to launch later this year on Verizon Communications Inc.’s FiOS TV video platform, now operating in three states, has failed to secure a carriage deal with Comcast or Time Warner. TAC CEO Doron Gorshein has turned to the FCC for help, saying that gaining either Comcast or Time Warner as a customer is crucial for any new network’s survival.

Waz told the Senate panel that TAC’s claims were false.

“There are so many competitive alternative distribution outlets available today that a carriage agreement with Comcast is not essential to viability,” Waz said.

Gorshein claims that no pay TV network has attained 20 million subscribers without carriage from Comcast or Time Warner, even though, theoretically, TAC could exceed the 20 million threshold based solely on satellite carriage.

“There is no precedent in the market for channels getting to 20 million subscribers without Comcast and Time Warner,” Gorshein countered. “Empirically, you can’t point to one channel that reached 20 million subscribers without at least one of them.”

NEUTRALIZING THE NET

Cable last year won the last Internet battle over the idea of “open access.” In that, they won the right to ban competing providers of Internet access, such as EarthLink Inc., from using their cable networks to serve customers.

Now, Web companies such as Google Inc., eBay Inc., Amazon.com Inc. and Vonage Holdings Corp., are mounting an effort to pre-empt any attempt by cable and phone companies to impede their access to broadband subscribers.

Egged on by public-interest groups, Copps and Adelstein are expected to push for network-neutrality conditions in the Adelphia deal. In a recent C-SPAN interview, Copps said: “I don’t think [the Internet] was ever supposed to be a gated community. This was supposed to be an open, thriving, come-one, come-all kind of network.”

Cable companies say codification of “network neutrality” is a cure in search of a disease, because no one has documented that a cable company has abused its gatekeeper position. Comcast has 8.1 million Internet subscribers; Time Warner Cable, 4.6 million.
“Our customers can use any legal service or application they choose on the Internet, and the market for high-speed Internet services is hotly competitive,” Comcast’s Cohen said.

Two telephone companies, AT&T Inc. and BellSouth Corp., have touted pay-to-play business models that, for example, would force Google to pony up cash to assure that search results and other services it provides get the fastest, most-reliable delivery to Internet users.

In November, AT&T chairman Edward Whitacre told Business Week: “They use my lines for free — and that’s bull. For a Google or a Yahoo! or a Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes for free is nuts!’’

Chris Murray, Vonage’s vice president of government affairs, said the voice-over-Internet services company hasn’t been actively lobbying the FCC on the Adelphia merger because cable operators haven’t threatened to block rivals that don’t pony up cash for access to their pipes.

Nonetheless, he said, “we see a need for action now on net neutrality, [even though cable companies are] not asking to hold applications hostage until they pay access fees.”

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6304924.html

did anyone else get any info on the new hd channels and when they will start. I accidently erased the message in my stb before I wrote down when it was all supposed to start and what channels exactly.

I could have sworn it said hdnet and hdnet movies but in the new channel line-up on yahoo I'm only seeing hdnet. I would rather have hdnet movies so I hope this isn't the finalized channel line up for me.

did anyone else get any info on the new hd channels and when they will start. I accidently erased the message in my stb before I wrote down when it was all supposed to start and what channels exactly.

I could have sworn it said hdnet and hdnet movies but in the new channel line-up on yahoo I'm only seeing hdnet. I would rather have hdnet movies so I hope this isn't the finalized channel line up for me.

from what i can recall, it was towards the end of february is when they are suppose to have the free preview...

and its for channels espn + espn2, hdnet and hdnet movies, and the nfl channel.....(i think thats what my memory remembers) :p

from what i can recall, it was towards the end of february is when they are suppose to have the free preview...

and its for channels espn + espn2, hdnet and hdnet movies, and the nfl channel.....(i think thats what my memory remembers) :p

I think it was on or about Feb 18th. :confused:

I erased it, too, but I'm pretty sure the preview runs from next Saturday the 18th through the 28th. TitanTV already has HDNet (931) and HDMovies(932) listed for my zip code, so guess it's ready to go.

Hey guys,
We got Channel 7 news (local) in HD now !
Did anybody see the first broadcast after Grey's Anatomy ?

I noticed the female anchor was purty heavy with the make-up........perhaps a tad scared of dem HD cams? :eek:

Hollywood absolutely HATES HD! After several nights of watching HD TV, I'm beginning to realize these actors and actresses are no more perfect than us regular folk! Pimples, moles, skin imprefections, rashes, you name it, they got it. Ah, yes, I feel better now.

Hollywood absolutely HATES HD! After several nights of watching HD TV, I'm beginning to realize these actors and actresses are no more perfect than us regular folk! Pimples, moles, skin imprefections, rashes, you name it, they got it. Ah, yes, I feel better now.


lol...... :D make-up does wonders

Hollywood absolutely HATES HD! After several nights of watching HD TV, I'm beginning to realize these actors and actresses are no more perfect than us regular folk! Pimples, moles, skin imprefections, rashes, you name it, they got it. Ah, yes, I feel better now.

then there are the few who even in HD look amazing, jessica alba comes to mind, and make you curse them even more.

I just got this website (http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/4831-11405_1-6414582.html) e-mailed to me by a friend of mine. Dish Network is finally offering HD Locals (ABC, NBC, CBS, & FOX. No PBS yet...). This was the only reason I switched to Adelphia in the first place. Now that I can watch Lost in HD through Dish Network, there's no reason to suffer through this Adelphia/Moxi crap anymore!!!

Needless to say, I just got off the phone with a sales rep at Dish Network and have my installation scheduled in 3 weeks! All digital, here I come!

(can you tell I'm excited?) :)

I just got this website (http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/4831-11405_1-6414582.html) e-mailed to me by a friend of mine. Dish Network is finally offering HD Locals (ABC, NBC, CBS, & FOX. No PBS yet...). This was the only reason I switched to Adelphia in the first place. Now that I can watch Lost in HD through Dish Network, there's no reason to suffer through this Adelphia/Moxi crap anymore!!!

Needless to say, I just got off the phone with a sales rep at Dish Network and have my installation scheduled in 3 weeks! All digital, here I come!

(can you tell I'm excited?) :)


hd lite?

hd lite?
Yeah, sort of, but I don't watch much PBS or WB in HD anyway. My main concern has always been the major networks with programming I care about (Lost, Medium, Surface, etc.). Besides, Dish also has lots of "extra" HD channels as well as the premium HD channels ( HBO, Showtime, etc.) included in their HD Package, even if you don't subscribe to the standard def. premium channels (or so the sales rep says. I'll have to confirm once I'm installed).

Couple that with all the channels broadcast digitally, bigger hard drive, more elegant interface, one receiver for 2 rooms (watch recorded programs in the bedroom!), and interactive TV and I think the pros far outweigh the cons.

Pardon me, but what does "hd lite" mean?

Thanks,

pj

Pardon me, but what does "hd lite" mean?
I'm assuming he meant that it didn't have all the HD channels that Adelphia provides such as PBS, but I'm not sure.

kyleki:

I think that you're right in the context of this thread; I asked because I believe that I've heard that descriprion used in a technical sense to describe the directv hd feed - i.e., it is not true hd (I don't know the details).

It would be somewhat of an amazing feat for dish to be offering less channels in hd than I receive in Thousand Oaks from Adelphia.

I know that in Moorpark you are getting more than we are; we supposedly don't have the bandwidth to add any more until all analog channels are broadcast in digital.

I will be very interested to hear how your dish install goes and how it performs; are you getting two sat. dishes installed?

Thanks,

pj

I think that you're right in the context of this thread; I asked because I believe that I've heard that descriprion used in a technical sense to describe the directv hd feed - i.e., it is not true hd (I don't know the details).I certainly hope that's not the case. Although, it may not really matter at this point. I'm so fed up with Adelphia and my Moxi that I feel anything is going to be better. Especially since I had a really good experience with Dish Network before I switched to Adelphia for my local HD channels.

It would be somewhat of an amazing feat for dish to be offering less channels in hd than I receive in Thousand Oaks from Adelphia. I know that in Moorpark you are getting more than we are; we supposedly don't have the bandwidth to add any more until all analog channels are broadcast in digital.Well, based on their website (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/programming/dishhd/programming/pricingandpackages/gold/index.shtml), they have 23 HD channels in the gold package I'm going with which is quite a bit more than even I'm receiving in Moorpark right now (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, Discovery, PBS, [and others I don't watch]). So even without PBS, which I don't watch very often anyway, I still think I'm coming out ahead.

I will be very interested to hear how your dish install goes and how it performs; are you getting two sat. dishes installed?I'll make sure to post an update here once it's done (March 4th). Since I was a previous Dish Network customer, I've still got 2 Dish500 sat. dishes on my house that are just missing the LNBs. I've asked them to replace them with a single SuperDish sat. dish and they said they'd most likely do that for me. We'll have to see how cool the installer is when he comes out. :)

its my understanding that sat companies don't broadcast full res hdtv to save bandwidth. The scale it down because they don't think the consumer will notice. If your looking for full 1080i you will need OTA or cable.

I currently have Adelphia cable, and to suggest that it's an uncompressed HD signal is a joke. Adelphia compresses most of its HD content which is noticeable in scenes with a lot of motion. Now, I guess OTA would be getting closer, but I also understand that even the studios compress the outgoing signal when broadcast OTA (but I'm not sure).

I guess the bottom line for me is: who provides the best television watching experience. After being a Dish Network customer, then switching to Adelphia to get HD locals, I must say that I was a much happier TV content consumer when I was with Dish Network. Their hardware and interfaces made the experience much more intuitive and easy to use. Whereas the Moxi is something I'm fully aware of every time I sit down to watch TV (which is a sign of poor design, in my opinion).

The only reason I left Dish Network when I did was to take advantage of my new HD TV set and get to watch my favorite network shows in HD. I've been limping along with Adelphia ever since just waiting for the day when I could get the programming I was interested in from the company I enjoyed doing business with. That day is finally here. :)

then there are the few who even in HD look amazing, jessica alba comes to mind, and make you curse them even more.
In my neighborhood, we’re all Jessica Alba fans, just do a search under her name on this thread….or for a quick fix, go to………………

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7096662&&#post7096662

B.T.W.-
Into The Blue will be an early Blu-ray release. :)

at first I thought it was downloading an update, the display was flashing all sorts of numbers and letters and all I could get on the screen was a pink horizontal flickering line. Finally it just shut down. It is now dead. Adelphia is sending out a tech later today and I was wondering if you guys know whether or not the newer boxes have the USB ports enabled? Also, are there firewire ports on the newer ones? What other enhancements if any? I had one of the original boxes.

at first I thought it was downloading an update, the display was flashing all sorts of numbers and letters and all I could get on the screen was a pink horizontal flickering line. Finally it just shut down. It is now dead. Adelphia is sending out a tech later today and I was wondering if you guys know whether or not the newer boxes have the USB ports enabled? Also, are there firewire ports on the newer ones? What other enhancements if any? I had one of the original boxes.
I got my Moxi at the very end of December. It has USB and Firewire ports on it, however, I don't know if either is active. I seem to remember people talking abou trying the firewire, but not being able to archive information off to a PC from the Moxi via the interface but I think DVHS worked. I might try to hook the box up via firewire to my TV later today just to see what it does.

I got my Moxi at the very end of December. It has USB and Firewire ports on it, however, I don't know if either is active. I seem to remember people talking abou trying the firewire, but not being able to archive information off to a PC from the Moxi via the interface but I think DVHS worked. I might try to hook the box up via firewire to my TV later today just to see what it does.

OK, so later today, almost immediately, same difference. I hooked it up to my Mitsubishi TV via firewire. The TV automatically detected it as "Tuner". I was able to see all channels (HD and SD) and hear Dolby Digital audio over Firewire. Biggest problems are:
* No menu access over Firewire
* Annoying grey screen in between every channel change
* No onscreen indication of channel as you flip channels
* TV seemed willing to change the channel via firewire, however, all that happened was the screen went grey (like it was changing) and then came back on the same channel

I know that several of these things are related to the fact that the overlays (menu and channel indication) are not possible over the firewire interface.

Not to change the subject or anything, but after not finding much on HD to watch, I emailed Adelphia to find when/if the lineup will expand and to what. This was somewhat in response to the free trial offer upcoming later this month [see cable box messages]. They respnded quickly, the same day, with this [the insert is mine to clarify the answer in context of my inquiry]:

Thank you for your email. Yes, these channels [FLIX and HDNet] will become a permanent addition to you Adelphia lineup. However, HDNet will come in a HD plus package which will be an additional 5.00 a month. The package will come with other additional HD channels like HDNET Movies, ESPN2, and the NFL network in HD. If you have any further questions or concerns please call customer service at 1-888-683-1000.

So, Adelphia will have SHO, HBO, MAX, and their HD Package on a subscription basis with CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, and DSC for free. Are there any more channels that can be added for an HD Package 2? I'm also looking forward to paying for opening up the Moto 6200's USB and Smart Card ports. I'd like dual tuners in a non-Moxi box for a DVR, but who am I?

TitanTV is showing the following new channels in Manhattan Beach (90266):

931 - HDNet
932 - HDNet Movies
940 - ESPN2-HD
950 - INHD
951 - INHD2

I can't tune them in yet, but hopefully they will be here shortly.

kyleki:

I think that you're right in the context of this thread; I asked because I believe that I've heard that descriprion used in a technical sense to describe the directv hd feed - i.e., it is not true hd (I don't know the details).

It would be somewhat of an amazing feat for dish to be offering less channels in hd than I receive in Thousand Oaks from Adelphia.

I know that in Moorpark you are getting more than we are; we supposedly don't have the bandwidth to add any more until all analog channels are broadcast in digital.

I will be very interested to hear how your dish install goes and how it performs; are you getting two sat. dishes installed?

Thanks,

pj


Adelphia in TO supplies minimum HD. To add insult to injury they charge for a about half of it.

Adelphia in TO supplies minimum HD. To add insult to injury they charge for a about half of it.

Have you (or seriously considering) dumped Adelphia and switched to Dish?

Thanks,

pj

Have you (or seriously considering) dumped Adelphia and switched to Dish?

Thanks,

pj

Yes, its an option I'm considering but it may cost me for equipment since I would not be a first timer. The MPEG4 thing hasn't stabilized yet.

Yes, its an option I'm considering but it may cost me for equipment since I would not be a first timer. The MPEG4 thing hasn't stabilized yet.I'm not a first timer either. I was a Dish Network customer about a year ago when I jumped to Adelphia. They still had all my information in their database and I was still able to get the VIP622 for the $299 rate. They also told me that if I waited until April 1st that they'd drop this price to $99! I just couldn't wait. :D

Yes, its an option I'm considering but it may cost me for equipment since I would not be a first timer. The MPEG4 thing hasn't stabilized yet.


I thought that the mpeg4 thing was an issue with directv, not dish...no?

pj

I thought that the mpeg4 thing was an issue with directv, not dish...no?

pj

New HD will be MPEG4 on Dish as well so I will need new equipment for 2 HDTVs. If I get two PVRs, there is a question of what the fees will be and whether I will have enough antenna feeds.

wow...wish I knew about all this before I signed for Adelphia's HDTV package. I'm not paying much for it, just an extra $10 per month and installation was free, so can't really complain. Which of the movie channels should I add? I'm going to be adding the ESPN HD for the extra $1.50 for sure. Which of the movie channels should I pick? And when they add new basic channels to the HD list, do I automatically get them for free? I'm dying to watch it, but I don't have a long enough component cable to connect to the projector yet.

Time Warner Wins Injunction vs. DirecTV Retailer
By Linda Moss 2/15/2006 6:52:00 PM

Time Warner Cable won a preliminary injunction barring a DirecTV Inc. retailer from using toll-free numbers and fake names to try to trick consumers into ordering TV service from the direct-broadcast satellite provider.

The injunction was finalized late last week by U.S. District Court Judge Marilyn Huff in Southern California against DirecTV retailer LA Activations Inc. of Santa Ana, Calif. The case is now slated to go to trial, with the retailer, as part of a stipulation, agreeing not to use the phone numbers in question and suspending the listings pending the litigation.

In January, the cable operator filed a false-advertising suit against LA Activations, claiming that the retailer had obtained toll-free business numbers under names such as “Time Warned,” “Time Warn” and “Time Warne,” among others, as a ruse to highjack callers who were trying to reach the cable operator.

Time Warner in its suit alleged that LA Activations was using “fictitious business names which are confusingly similar to Time Warner” and that “as a result of this ruse, some customers who call directory assistance for Time Warner’s phone number are connected to or given LA Activations’ toll-free number. These customers are unaware that they have been hijacked to a direct competitor of Time Warner.”

Time Warner’s San Diego division has 200,000 subscribers in San Diego County and 145,000 in areas such as Riverside County and Barstow.

The lawsuit seeks damages and charges trademark infringement, unfair competition, false advertising and unfair competition under California law. Time Warner also wants LA Activations to be barred from making deceptive representations and unlawfully competing against the cable operator.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6308047.html?display=Breaking+News

wow...wish I knew about all this before I signed for Adelphia's HDTV package. I'm not paying much for it, just an extra $10 per month and installation was free, so can't really complain. Which of the movie channels should I add? I'm going to be adding the ESPN HD for the extra $1.50 for sure. Which of the movie channels should I pick? And when they add new basic channels to the HD list, do I automatically get them for free? I'm dying to watch it, but I don't have a long enough component cable to connect to the projector yet.

I called Adelphia about the new channels, they basically didn't have any information on it, but assumed that the change would go into affect on March 1st. It appears that the new price chart includes a new HDTV tier, which is another $10 (I think). I believe that includes TNTHD, UniversalHD, HDNET, HDNET Movies, ESPN, ESPN2. What I get now is locals in HD, DiscoveryHD, PBS HD, and the movies channels (HBO,Showtime, Cinemax) as part of the previous HD package.

So starting March 1st... I'd have to pay another $10 to be able to have TNTHD, Universal HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, ESPN and ESPN2 on HD? Out of the movie channels, which would you guys recommend for the most selection of newer released movies?

after the preview the new HD plus tier is $5 per month and there will no longer be a separate charge for ESPN HD.

as many know Adelphia has many service areas in Southern California. when new channels are announced it is particularly for the 860 systems in Los Angeles. So to be sure find out if you're area is served by an 860 system.

if you subscribe to ESPN HD you will see ESPN2 HD during the preview. if you don't subscribe to ESPN HD you won't see ESPN2 HD during the preview.

after the preview the new HD plus tier is $5 per month and there will no longer be a separate charge for ESPN HD.

as many know Adelphia has many service areas in Southern California. when new channels are announced it is particularly for the 860 systems in Los Angeles. So to be sure find out if you're area is served by an 860 system.

if you subscribe to ESPN HD you will see ESPN2 HD during the preview. if you don't subscribe to ESPN HD you won't see ESPN2 HD during the preview.

Thanks for the update. I swear it was more than $5, actually I think I thought it was that much, but then followed the rows of text on the bill and saw it wasn't lined up with the price I first saw. I guess I will have to double check. I will also be calling in on March 1st and see what the deal is.

Preview starts today, right? February 18th-28th? I'm in West Hollywood and I'm looking for these channels:

HDNet 931
HDNet Movies 932
NFL-HD 938
ESPN-HD2 940 ( I AM an ESPN-HD subscriber)

I'm trying to direct tune via my Motorola STB (w/ Moxi) and getting nothing. Do I have to rescan available channels? Add-a-Channel? I see no way to add a channel to the Moxi list. It IS possible to make a channel available if it exists in the channel list but is unchecked. None of these appear, though.

Preview starts today, right? February 18th-28th? I'm in West Hollywood and I'm looking for these channels:

HDNet 931
HDNet Movies 932
NFL-HD 938
ESPN-HD2 940 ( I AM an ESPN-HD subscriber)

I'm trying to direct tune via my Motorola STB (w/ Moxi) and getting nothing. Do I have to rescan available channels? Add-a-Channel? I see no way to add a channel to the Moxi list. It IS possible to make a channel available if it exists in the channel list but is unchecked. None of these appear, though.

Nothing in West LA either! :confused:
I called in the early AM and they didn't even have an updated channel list. Right hand Left hand!

Has anyone tried picking up the new channels with a TV's built in QAM tuner? I have one, but it is not hooked up. I remember that FOX showed up on there way before it ever showed up on my Moto STB.

Edited:
I just checked on my Moxi and I show 940 (ESPN2) in my channel lineup and I can even tune to it, but I get the dreaded, "If you don't subscribe to the channel...." message. I am also an ESPN-HD subscriber. I don't show any of the other channels.

UPDATE:

Moxi wants ESPN-HD2!

Moxi has discovered a "TBA" channel (identified in the flip bar with that generic orange/yellow picture frame thing-what is that s'posed to be anyway??) at 940. When I go to it I get the "you must be subscribed message" (I am).

No indication of other channels' imminent availability.

To be continued...

UPDATE:

Moxi wants ESPN-HD2!

Moxi has discovered a "TBA" channel (identified in the flip bar with that generic orange/yellow picture frame thing-what is that s'posed to be anyway??) at 940. When I go to it I get the "you must be subscribed message" (I am).

No indication of other channels' imminent availability.

To be continued...

My Moxi must want it more, it has a logo :)

My Moxi must want it more, it has a logo :)

Dude! You have a logo??!! I'm simultaneously happy for you and bitter and angry that I remain logoless. I won't be responsible for my actions if you get to watch an actual ESPN2-HD sporting event (unless it's like log-rolling or something. You can have log-rolling).

I have full access to ESPN2 HD..but thats all at this moment......I am in Brea, CA Adelphia service

Nothing in Los Feliz either (90027), although the channels have been in the lineup for a while. Can't tune to the HDNet ones at all, and similar result with ESPN-HD2 as above (blank screen with need to subscribe message). Oh, Adelphia...they just love to tease... :mad:

Nuttin' in Seal Beach at all... not even a hint
Still just the most modest line-up in the industry

2 - 4 - 7 - 11 - 28 ESPN HBO SHO

Encino: As of this morning, Moxi shows channel 940 with no logo, and clicking on it gets me the unsubscribed message.

Too bad they couldn't get us TNT HD in time for the NBA All Star programs. Then again, it looks like that's not one of the channels we'll be getting anyway.

Let me repeat: NFL channel is WORTHLESS! And it's worthless is compounded by the fact that the NFL season is over.

Encino: As of this morning, Moxi shows channel 940 with no logo, and clicking on it gets me the unsubscribed message.

Too bad they couldn't get us TNT HD in time for the NBA All Star programs. Then again, it looks like that's not one of the channels we'll be getting anyway.

Let me repeat: NFL channel is WORTHLESS! And it's worthless is compounded by the fact that the NFL season is over.

Agree! Still nothing in West LA. I called. They want to set up a trouble ticket. She said no one was calling.
PLEASE CALL if you're not getting anything. So much for a free prieview weekend! :eek:

ESPN2 is now coming in on 940 but it's listed incorrectly on the Moxi.

Still nothing on channel 940. No other new channels here in Encino.

ESPN2 is now coming in on 940 but it's listed incorrectly on the Moxi.

As of Sunday morning ESPN2HD is correct all around. Now on to the others?

ESPN2-HD is good here in Anaheim Hills, but no hint of any of the other channels.

ESPN2-HD available in West Hollywood. As with the rest of you, nada mas.

ESPN2-HD here in Diamond Bar. Nothing more just yet. Maybe they meant 2-18-07? :rolleyes:

ESPN2-HD here in Diamond Bar. Nothing more just yet. Maybe they meant 2-18-07? :rolleyes:

You optomist, you! :p

I'm in West Hollwyood and as of 10:30am, ESPN2-HD (940) was still showing "you need to subscribe...". Seeing Pye in LA's post and following Joe's suggestion, I called Adelphia and he said I should be getting it since I subscribe to ESPN-HD. Looking at my account he said "some switch was not turned on my acct" and turned it on while I was on the phone. Now both my Moxi's have ESPN2-HD :)

Thank you Joe & Pye in LA for posting.

12:55pm Sunday and I've got nothing here in Fullerton.

Confirm ESPN-HD2 (940) in Los Feliz, nothing else.

ESPN-HD2 (940) arrived in Encino this afternoon, nothing else. Women's college basketball was in HD (didn't cause me to watch it though), followed by all non-HD programs. Where are the other promised channels?

ESPN-HD2 (940) arrived in Encino this afternoon, nothing else. Women's college basketball was in HD (didn't cause me to watch it though), followed by all non-HD programs. Where are the other promised channels?

Wouldn't be great if there was an "AdelphiaGuy/Gal" like MoxiGuy to keep us in the loop. Or at least a TW-Guy/Gal? :D

there is nothing in my area. Pretty ironic since I may have been one of the first to report the new channels after receiving the message on my stb. Talk about false advertising.

There's only 940 in Arcadia so far. I don't subscribe to ESPNHD so it's a bonus, but we here were looking more forward to HDNet. It seems as if forking out another $5/mo will solve the problem after March 1.

I called Adelphia this evening to ask about where are the HDNet & INHD previews? She (Christine) said there was some some sort of " HD equipment problems" that should be fixed by the 21st Tuesday. So in Adelphia speak I'm sure that means next week. :rolleyes: We will see.

She said that is why our previews (except espn2-hd) did not start on the 18th.

And so now I have the "need to subscribe" message on ESPN-HD2 here in Los Feliz (I subscribe to ESPN-HD).

Adelphia giveth, Adelphia taketh away... :rolleyes:

And so now I have the "need to subscribe" message on ESPN-HD2 here in Los Feliz (I subscribe to ESPN-HD).

Adelphia giveth, Adelphia taketh away... :rolleyes:

I get that message when there's actually no signal, if it was open a bit ago. That happened today. I can tune to my cable card TV when the Moxi gives me a blue screen to confirm.

And so now I have the "need to subscribe" message on ESPN-HD2 here in Los Feliz (I subscribe to ESPN-HD).

Adelphia giveth, Adelphia taketh away... :rolleyes:

Same here. And I was sorta hoping to see the Gonzaga/Pepperdine game. Ah well, it's available on espn2 standard (talk about a signal...).

Yo, WeHo bro, Myke...tommorrow (allegedly), huh? We shall see...

I can tune to my cable card TV when the Moxi gives me a blue screen to confirm.

Wait...you can tune in premium channels (espn2-hd, in this case) via CableCard?? Or you can confirm the screen is blue via CableCard?

Wait...you can tune in premium channels (espn2-hd, in this case) via CableCard?? Or you can confirm the screen is blue via CableCard?

I can confirm that there's no signal at all. It's not that you don't subscribe, I think?? :confused:

I can confirm that there's no signal at all. It's not that you don't subscribe, I think?? :confused:

Yes, it's not that I don't subscribe (Yes, we have no bananas).

I called Adelphia this evening to ask about where are the HDNet & INHD previews? She (Christine) said there was some some sort of " HD equipment problems" that should be fixed by the 21st Tuesday. So in Adelphia speak I'm sure that means next week. :rolleyes: We will see.

She said that is why our previews (except espn2-hd) did not start on the 18th.

I also called lastnight and got the same answer. They said that they were having trouble rolling out the HD content, but she didn't have any information on when this would be resolved.

I got HDNet and HDnet Movies on 931 and 932! :D
ESPN2HD still MIA. :(
10:30AM! Tuesday the 21st, it's a present !! :D Thanks Adelphia! ;)

And we're good to go in West Hollywood with 931 (HDNet) and 932 (HDNet-Movies) at 1:45 PM.

That is, we have programming but no proogramming data. I recognize "Against All Odds" on 932 (Jeff Bridges, Rachael Ward and James Woods...with the great racing scene on Sunset Blvd) and on 931 we have the always popular "Supermodels in Bikinis Doing Stuff Someplace Tropical." :cool:

PS: Always difficult to look at J. Woods w/out his um, reputation coming to mind.

And we're good to go in West Hollywood with 931 (HDNet) and 932 (HDNet-Movies) at 1:45 PM.

That is, we have programming but no proogramming data. I recognize "Against All Odds" on 932 (Jeff Bridges, Rachael Ward and James Woods...with the great racing scene on Sunset Blvd) and on 931 we have the always popular "Supermodels in Bikinis Doing Stuff Someplace Tropical." :cool:

PS: Always difficult to look at J. Woods w/out his um, reputation coming to mind.


Go to HD.Net and get the guide.

and thats all we are expecting for the new channels right? Or are there more?

ESPN2-HD is now on also! :D
2:20PM

and thats all we are expecting for the new channels right? Or are there more?

Some have said the InHDs but I haven't seen any local info on that.

I am about 2 weeks into my first HDTV and loving it! I have Adelphia Basic cable (Ontario, CA 91786) and my intial hook-up only gave me ABC, CBS, and PBS in HD via the built-in QAM(?) tuner. I still wanted Fox/KTTV and NBC and was sure I could get it somehow without adding an STB or CableCard from Adelphia. After discovering the many, many sub-channels my HDTV located and looking through just about each one, I found my other stations!

Anyhow, in hopes that this helps someone else out, I found these sub-channels:

Adelphia Ontario, 91786
CBS 2.1
ABC 7.1
NBC 94.0
FOX 100.03

I also found a series of digital music channels starting at channel 81-1. Again, this is all with just my HD tuner and Adelphia Basic cable. Best of luck!

hurray i hope i can get these !!!

Some have said the InHDs but I haven't seen any local info on that.

When I called last night and inquired about HD Plus Tier, she mentioned INHD, & INHD2. When I went to www.titantv.com and put in 90069 zip for Adelphia -West Hollywood , it said those channels should be on 950 & 951. But again we shall see. Tvguide.com & zap2it.com has no mention of those channels.

I got HDNet and HDnet Movies on 931 and 932! :D
ESPN2HD still MIA. :(
10:30AM! Tuesday the 21st, it's a present !! :D Thanks Adelphia! ;)

Nothing new here in Anaheim. Just ESPN2-HD which I already had....

Adelphia Time Warner Transfer May 31
FCC approval expected, May migration

Posted 2006-02-21 19:12:12 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/72228

Adelphia customers in affected markets can expect to be handed over to Time Warner cable & Roadrunner on May 31, papers in New York and Maine report. Earlier this month, the FTC approved the $12.7 billion purchase of bankrupt Adelphia by Time Warner and Comcast without any conditions. The FCC is next up, and is expected to do the same. Customers being handed over to Time Warner should get notices in April.

my hatred for adelphia grows with each day. I called today and the CSR told me there was no addition channels expected for my area. I asked why the stb gave me the message and she said it must have been a regional error and began to ask if I would like to upgrade to their amazing digital channel offerings including mtv2 and mtv hits. NO give me more HD.

so frustrating. As of today no additional channels available.

my hatred for adelphia grows with each day. I called today and the CSR told me there was no addition channels expected for my area. I asked why the stb gave me the message and she said it must have been a regional error and began to ask if I would like to upgrade to their amazing digital channel offerings including mtv2 and mtv hits. NO give me more HD.

so frustrating. As of today no additional channels available.

And your area is (so that others may get equally as frustrated without having to wait on hold with Adelphia)?

And your area is (so that others may get equally as frustrated without having to wait on hold with Adelphia)?


hehe, my bad. Camarillo north of LA.

For people with QUAM tuners HDNet is on 125.1 and HDNet Movies is on 125.2 in Hollywood Hills/Los Feliz area.Lots of breakups though otherwise good PQ.

From Encino: HD Net and HD Net Movies have appeared (though no program guide yet), along with ESPN 2 HD. I checked out the HD Net web site, and so far, the program seems pretty good. A couple of LA Kings games coming up (Red Wings and Stars), some good movies. I'd like the InDemand HD channels, but because I have Netflix, I doubt I'd pay for InDemand (assuming that's what that is). So that really leaves TNT HD as the only other channel I'd really like to get. Moxi's working well. Gotta say, I'm fairly satisfied.

hope we get more channels soon

Well...out here in Ontario in the Inland Empire still NADA new. Still only CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, KCET, ESPN, HBO and SHOW in HD. Just double checked. No messages whatsoever either. :mad:

Well...out here in Ontario in the Inland Empire still NADA new. Still only CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, KCET, ESPN, HBO and SHOW in HD. Just double checked. No messages whatsoever either. :mad:

I second that.. I am in LaVerne (Glendora hub). I have nothing new either, but the ESPN2 station on the guide, but no programing.

nothing new in Brea area either.......only espn 2 :mad:

I will gladly drop useless nfl hd for tnt hd :D

Hi,

Does anyone, in the Valley Village/North Hollywood area, been able to get HD service from Adelphia. I called on 2/20/06 and was told that there is no current estimate. I'm right next to Sherman Oaks and they supposedly offer it there. Just makes no sense on how HD services are being rolled out. Thanks for any info.

nothing new in Brea area either.......only espn 2 :mad:

I will gladly drop useless nfl hd for tnt hd :D

I hear ya. Why keep that channel running, especially after the season.

nothing new in Brea area either.......only espn 2 :mad:

I will gladly drop useless nfl hd for tnt hd :D

Same here in Anaheim, on both counts!

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/other_business/article/0,2777,DRMN_23916_4487435,00.html

By Joyzelle Davis, Rocky Mountain News
February 22, 2006

Cable operator Adelphia Communications, which is seeking to exit bankruptcy this year, will borrow as much as $1.3 billion from JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup to pay expenses.

Greenwood Village-based Adelphia said in a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that the loan requires bankruptcy court approval.

A U.S. bankruptcy judge in New York next month will consider approving Adelphia's plan to exit bankruptcy after more than three years. Adelphia proposes to repay creditors through a $17.6 billion sale of its assets to Time Warner and Comcast.

I wonder whenever Time Warner takes over will we get TNT-HD. Most of there Southern California systems get TNT-HD. http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/CLU/TWCCLUs.ashx

I got the HDNET channels here in West LA... they are awesome.

Question: is it possible to just get HBO HD and Showtime HD without their entire package?

I got the HDNET channels here in West LA... they are awesome.

Question: is it possible to just get HBO HD and Showtime HD without their entire package?

Yeah, I think the total HBO or Sho movie package is $15, the HD channel alone is $15 ;)

HDNet and another HD (?) channel available in Agoura Hills area since last night.

New espn2HD came online here (via MOXI) in Nichols Canyon/Mulholland Drive area of Los Angeles Tuesday...right AFTER the Arsenal shocked Real Madrid 1-0 (at the Bernabeu, no less!) in Champions League football...

Too bad, because I wanted to see it live in HD (the espn2 analog on Adelphia Ch. 40 is HORRORSHOW!) Alas, this was not possible, but at the end of the game I checked to see if espn2HD was working, and it was...just in time to see the end-of-match highlight of the incomparable Thierry Henry slalom past a hapless Real Madrid midfield and defence before slotting home the winner!

As a consolation, however, on Wednesday I DID get to see the entire live match of 10-man (ha!) Chelsea getting flogged at home to Barcelona! That was a pretty picture! :D

Can't wait to see how old Highbury looks in HD when Arsenal hosts Real Madrid in London in a fortnight from now. Go espn2HD! Go gooners!

Looks like this short preview won't last! The HDNet and HDMN [some HD movie channel], ESPNHD are part of a "HD Plus" package, freeview until Feb.28. Afterwards.... probably some extra $$ to have them!?

As of this morning my Moxi now has all the programming info for the HDNets. So I can record now! Yay! :D

No new HD channels in Seal Beach.

Last month the Adelphia Office in SB told me that north OC would be getting new programing this month, but not us in Seal Beach--there is not enough bandwidth.

Yesterday, a message on a non-moxi box said east coast feeds of HBO, etc will be eliminated next month. Will this give enough bandwidth for the new HD channels that it seems everyone else is getting. (Or is this more Adelphia BS?)

Gary Einstein
Seal Beach

No new HD channels in Seal Beach.

Last month the Adelphia Office in SB told me that north OC would be getting new programing this month, but not us in Seal Beach--there is not enough bandwidth.

Yesterday, a message on a non-moxi box said east coast feeds of HBO, etc will be eliminated next month. Will this give enough bandwidth for the new HD channels that it seems everyone else is getting. (Or is this more Adelphia BS?)

Gary Einstein
Seal Beach

They dropped the East HBOs months ago in West LA and NOW we get new HD channels. I guess they waited for all the new bits to settle down! ;)

They dropped the East HBOs months ago in West LA and NOW we get new HD channels. I guess they waited for all the new bits to settle down! ;)

That would be fine with me here if we could get some new HD. So far nothing here and it doesn't sound like they plan on adding anything either. They keep telling me "bandwith problem " also.

Jim

Here in Placentia, which is serviced out of the Fullerton office, we don't have any new HD channels. Not even ESPN2-HD, although I'm not sure I'd care about that, since ESPN-HD doesn't show much in HD anyway (at least, not much I care about).

-Dan

No preview HD channels here in Arcadia. I spoke to Adelphia this morning. She said I have to wait but confirmed the rollout of a subscription HD package soon. From a prior conversation with them last week, it was supposed to be $5/mo for the ESPNs, HDNets, and maybe INHDs (or was there somethign else, too?).

One thing I did notice was my cable modem bandwidth uncapped from 4Mbps to 6Mbps which coincidentally is TimeWarner's modem speed (non-premium plan). While at TW's website, I priced comparative packages to Adelphia's in preparation for the upcoming switchover. TW is only slightly less expensive (at most a couple bucks less every month), but the HD Plus channels are $10/mo. and include TNTHD.

When does TW or Comcast assume the position?

Here in Placentia, which is serviced out of the Fullerton office, we don't have any new HD channels. Not even ESPN2-HD, although I'm not sure I'd care about that, since ESPN-HD doesn't show much in HD anyway (at least, not much I care about).

-Dan

I'm just up the road from you and I have ESPN2-HD, but that's it. My Moxi says my headend is La Mirada, but I'm not sure if that means I am serviced out of that office.

Am i the only one getting HEAVY brakeups on the HDNets while all other HD channels including Discovery are fine??I'm in Hollywood Hills.

Am i the only one getting HEAVY brakeups on the HDNets while all other HD channels including Discovery are fine??I'm in Hollywood Hills.

I was getting that today, but not yesterday. It borked my recording of Dune which judging by the first few choppy minutes is a great film. :(

More Free Premium TV!

Well...briefly. STB message informs me (in West Hollywood) that there'll be a free Showtime/The Movie Channel preview 3/31-4/03. I wonder if that means SHO-HD, too.

Well, HDNet and HDNet Movies have finally made their appearance in Anaheim on channels 931 and 932. No icon or program guide yet. Unfortunately, no program guide means that the Moxi wouldn't start recording "Best of Guys Night In". No idea what it is, but there were a lot very attractive women....

TitanTV lists these as well as inHD and inHD2 on 950 and 951. Has anyone received these channels?

They appeared sometime during the day today because I checked this morning before I left for work.

Judge Won’t Throw Out Adelphia Settlement
2/23/2006 5:46:00 PM

A bid by creditors of Adelphia Communications Corp. to throw out a $715 million settlement to compensate investors who lost money in the bankrupt MSO’s collapse in 2002 was rejected by a federal judge in Manhattan Thursday, Reuters reported.

Bankruptcy Judge Robert Gerber initially rejected the creditor's efforts to throw out the settlement, but the unsecured creditors -- which balked at the prospect of shareholders being paid ahead of them -- appealed, according to Reuters.

In his Thursday ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan wrote that he agreed with Gerber’s decision, rejecting the creditors' claims that the government had forced Adelphia into settling, Reuters reported.

“What the appellants characterize as coercion was no different in principle than the pressure that leads the overwhelming majority of defendants in criminal cases to plead guilty -- the risk that a conviction after trial will result in a harsher sentence than is likely to be imposed following a guilty plea," Kaplan wrote, according to Reuters.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6310277.html?display=Breaking+News

That would be fine with me here if we could get some new HD. So far nothing here and it doesn't sound like they plan on adding anything either. They keep telling me "bandwith problem " also.

Jim

If you can check 125-1, its got HDNET on clear channel QAM in T.O. I've heard the BW lie before also.

Am i the only one getting HEAVY brakeups on the HDNets while all other HD channels including Discovery are fine??I'm in Hollywood Hills.

Finally have the HDNets here in Diamond Bar on 931 & 932, and unwatchable. All other HD and SD channels are fine. Picture pixelates every second or so. Typical Adelphia service. Nice job Adelphia.

So let me get this straight,the HDNet's are pixelating heavily only in Hollywood Hills & Diamondbar and everyone else are receiving them fine?I've had the pixelation for 3 day's now and was looking forward to catch the only showing of Dog Day Afternoon this morning on HDNet Movies but it's completely unwatchable.
My 100th post :cool:

I'm just up the road from you and I have ESPN2-HD, but that's it. My Moxi says my headend is La Mirada, but I'm not sure if that means I am serviced out of that office.
My understanding is that most of these large cable systems started out as much smaller, regional systems. When the large companies bought up these smaller systems, they were stuck with a hodge-podge of different kinds of systems. That's why some places get some features, while places right next door might not.

And that's what's happening here. My only hope is that if the TW deal goes through, perhaps they'll spend some money to bring the Fullerton system up to current standards. I can only hope.

-Dan

So let me get this straight,the HDNet's are pixelating heavily only in Hollywood Hills & Diamondbar and everyone else are receiving them fine?I've had the pixelation for 3 day's now and was looking forward to catch the only showing of Dog Day Afternoon this morning on HDNet Movies but it's completely unwatchable.
My 100th post :cool:


heavy pixelating with the hdnet's here in brea also, absolutely unwatchable....everything else is normal.

If you can check 125-1, its got HDNET on clear channel QAM in T.O. I've heard the BW lie before also.

No way of checking it.

Thanks

Jim

So far we have eveything in Simi Valley except IND-HD. When I went to call to keep the HD plus tier (I would hope they would just add (3.50), I spent half hour on the phone for them just to tell me that the HD-Plus Tier is not available to order yet in their system - typical Adelphia.

The good news though is they said the free HD preview is good until March 6. So if they still don't have it in their system, maybe they'll just keep extending the deadline..

Synchron :cool:

I did get a letter in the mail on Saturday informing me of a price increase. Looks like everything is going up a buck or two each including the Moxi rental fee. They can't add new channels in our area but they can sure as heck charge more. Want to get a few more bucks out of us before the change over. Can't happen fast enough as far as I'm concerned.

Jim

I've not had my Samsung DLP professionally calibrated so I've been looking forward to the HD-Net test patterns. They appear for the first time since this free trial began late, late tonight (i.e. 3 AM, Tuesday).

Has anyone been down this road? Was it worthwhile?

So far we have eveything in Simi Valley except IND-HD. When I went to call to keep the HD plus tier (I would hope they would just add (3.50), I spent half hour on the phone for them just to tell me that the HD-Plus Tier is not available to order yet in their system - typical Adelphia.

Synchron :cool:

I called last week about HD plus tier., The rep told me that since I already subscribe to ESPN- HD ($1.50) I would automatically get the HD plus tier with the price increase. But again this is Adelphia, lets see if that is true.

If they remove all of the east coast premium feeds does that mean they are going to reduce the cost of the advantage packs accordingly? OF COURSE NOT!

So, what is comes down to, is they are going to remove some channels (no price adjustment) and add channels in their place, but charge extra for them.

I'm definitely in the wrong business.

heavy pixelating with the hdnet's here in brea also, absolutely unwatchable....everything else is normal.

Just got home, fired up the set, checked the HDNets, still the same crap. Completely unwatchable. Finally got on the phone with Adelphia and their rep claimed no one else has reported this problem with the new channels. I told him there have been other reports in other SoCal areas from the initial launch of these channels. His reply, "If you are getting heavy pixelation on these channels, it must be a weak signal problem at your end. I'll set up a service call for you!" AAAARRRGGHHH!! After setting him straight again about the issue, he recognized the problem is at the headend and will "get their team of engineers" on it right away. Can't believe no one else has complained about this yet. Guess we'll see how long it takes. Any predictions?

I'll guess as long as it takes until TimeWarner or Comcast take over Adelphia's assets then we can start the betting pool again.

Can't believe no one else has complained about this yet.
I just did.
Apparently not many people were even tuning into these channels, thus it fell thru the cracks.

They're working on it now.

I've not noticed any pixelation on the HDNET channels in Hollywood Hills. The picture looks good and I'm extremely happy to finally have some more HD channels. Any word on more HD channels coming soon?

So let me get this straight,the HDNet's are pixelating heavily only in Hollywood Hills & Diamondbar and everyone else are receiving them fine?I've had the pixelation for 3 day's now and was looking forward to catch the only showing of Dog Day Afternoon this morning on HDNet Movies but it's completely unwatchable.
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950 and 951 just showed up in West LA, but no programming or guide info. I wonder if we'll get a free preview of them, since tomorrow is March 1st and all.

apao:I've not noticed any pixelation on the HDNET channels in Hollywood Hills. The picture looks good and I'm extremely happy to finally have some more HD channels. Any word on more HD channels coming soon?
Where are you located?I'm near Gower/Scenic and now there is virtually no signal at all left,only some short bursts of pixelation every few minutes.It is getting WORSE.I have 4 QUAM tuners (Samsung,2 Sony,LG)and every other channel is very strong but the HDNets are weak or nonexistant on all 4.What kind of tuner do you have?

So let me get this straight,the HDNet's are pixelating heavily only in Hollywood Hills & Diamondbar and everyone else are receiving them fine?I've had the pixelation for 3 day's now and was looking forward to catch the only showing of Dog Day Afternoon this morning on HDNet Movies but it's completely unwatchable.
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No pixellation in Simi Valley on those channels. Of course this whole system here was rebuilt a few years ago so there is not a lot of old equipment left. The old system goes back to the one of the previous owners; Comcast. The Adelphia bankruptcy derailed a lot of upgrading that needed to be done on a lot of their systems.

INHD and INHD2 is on channel 150 & 151 this morning in West Hollywood.

Hooray :) No program guide yet though. No pixelation. Thank you Adelphia. Cant wait to check it out tonight after work.

I'm in Sherman Oaks, subscribe to the "Ultimate" package with four HD sets and four Moxi boxes--so I know it's not just one box that's screwed up-- and since at least December 2005, we've received NFL HD along with ESPN HD, Discovery HD, and the rest of the movie channel HD's (MAX, HBO and SHO), as well as CBS-2 HD, NBC-4 HD, ABC-HD, Fox 11 HD, and PBS-28 HD.

About a month ago, we started to receive HD NET, HD NET Movies, ESPN-2, and INHD and INHD2.

This morning, I checked and here is what we receive and what we do not (and by do not, I mean the channels show up, but we receive the message "If you don't subscribe to this channel, you can add it by calling Customer Service"):

902--CBS
904--NBC
907--ABC
911--Fox
928-PBS
930-DIS
931-HDNET--don't get programming
932-HDNET Movies--no programming
938-NFL HD--no programming
939-ESPN HD
940-ESPN HD2--no programming
950-INHD--no programming
951-INHD2--no programming
961--HBO HD
963-- Cinemax HD
971--SHO HD

Again, when I say "no programming" I mean the channel shows up, along with the program descriptions for current and upcoming programs, but there is no picture other than the message to either check for a loose cable or to call customer service to add the channel.

I contacted customer service and was told (by a regional rep in Colorado Springs) that the channels which we are now "missing" aren't even shown in the lineup. Then she said she checked with her supervisor, who advised her to read an email (while I was on hold) which said that the additional HD channels were being offered in Sherman Oaks from 2/18 through 2/28 as a "preview." She said the e-mail also indicated Adelphia was dropping HBO Channel 206 in order to make room for the additional HD bandwidth. The rep told me that for each analog channel they drop, they can get another 10 HD channels into the system, in terms of bandwidth.

I responded by saying that was all very interesting, and well and good (whether she knew what she was talking about or not) but reminded her that I was interested in having her tell me why I was not receiving channels which I had been receiving (e.g., NFL HD...which I never watch by the way) for more than the "preview" period, but which were now unavailable. She had no idea. Had me reset all the Moxi boxes, but still the same deal.

The one thing I was concerned about was whether Adelphia would be charging more for these additional HD channels to customers who have the "ultimate" package, and the rep was emphatic that there would be no additional charge to those subscribers who already take their "ultimate" i.e., most expensive, package.

Of course, the situation is now that I'm paying more (i.e., "ultimate") and receiving less...now I don't get some of the HD which I used to get, and I'm also missing some HBO stuff for which I also pay.

Nice work Adelphia.

As far as when the rest of these channels are going to be available, the rep had no idea.... She said they were previewing from 2/18 through 2/28, and that they were supposed to be added permanently as of 3/1....Well, that's today, and guess what: They aren't working.

Nice work Adelphia.

Boyz:

INHD (Ch. 950) and INHD-2 (951) up and running here in Nichols Canyon / Mulholland Drive area of Hollywood Hills! Niiiiiice.

I hate to say it, but the peeps at Adelphia have been pretty quick about this recent rollout! This brings to 14 (!) the number of available HD channels (plus any premium channels).

Rock on, Chaka Khan!

:rolleyes:

In Arcadia, both HDNets showed up a few days ago, but the other promised previews are still "Call To Subscribe". It's my guess from what people say here and what Adelphia support said that the rollouts are happening slowly throughout SoCal in areas which are most likely to have HDTVs first. Since most of the population is still supporting digital and analog signals, there's no urgency for Adelphia to make new channels a priority. Also, it's TimeWarner/Comcast who are most concerned and controlling this because TW, e.g., takes over at the end of May.

In any case, my guesstimate is less than 10% of households own HDTVs. Adelphia told me the preview channels showing up now are to be included in an HD Package like their others for a $5/mo. fee. If that's true, then they are thinking those homes who want more HD programming will seek it out on their own so there's no big deal to being prompt. What's more, flashing new channels to those interested is a tease that may sell more subscriptions.

How's that for conspiracy?

HDNet/2 disappeared this morning in Eagle Rock. Adelphia demanded $5/mo to get them back. They also threw in iNHD/2, brought back ESPN2 and the worthless NFL channel. ESPN is still $1.50 on top of the new and improved pricing.

PQ is good on all HD channels Some (HDNet) better than others, probably because the source is better.

Adelphia is making one last grab for the money before fading into history.

the only new channel working for me is espn2, everything else is no good......

I had the hdnet's for a few days now, but the heavy pixelating make it unwatchable...and there is nothing on inhd's. this is an awesome free preview :mad:

I'm getting Moxi listings for InHD 1&2 but no programming. Just the "blue screen".

Came home from work and found that here, in Los Feliz, everything is available but, now that the preview is over. inaccessible. Called Adelphia to see if the $5.00/mo charge would add all of these new channels. It does.

Now, I know we all love to bash Adelphia and usually with good reason (my cable was out for the entire day yesterday due to the rains, I guess, and the best the service rep could say was that Adelphia usually fixes these "glitches" very quickly...I called after it had been out over 15 hrs.!). But I lucked out today with one of the funniest reps I've ever encountered. Anyway, he informed me that he could lower my bill by hooking me up with some new Advantage Pac that would include everything I have now (Internet, all HD channels plus HBO-HD, SHO-HD, ESPN-HD) for $95/mo. (I've been paying $125/mo. with a sort of "a la carte" selection). The HD Plus package (which has all of these new channels) is $5/mo extra. So, bottom line, I'm saving $30/mo.

This is good for 3 mos., but after one month I can call and get a longer term deal since I've been with Adelphia for over 6 yrs. That could be all jive, but, at least, for 3 mos. I'm saving almost $100. And I got a few good laughs from this guy, which I desperately needed after my lousy day at work.

Here's the situation in Anaheim Hills:
Everything I had gained as part of the free preview (HD Net, HD Net Movies, and ESPN2-HD) are now gone with the "subscription" message showing up. 950 and 951 (presumably inHD and inHD2) are now present but with a "subscription" message and no guide data. NFL-HD (worthless) is still present as well as all the basics). I don't subscribe to any of the movie channels, so can't comment on those. My guess is that the free preview is now over as far as Adelphia is concerned, even though I had the HDNet channels for a grand total of 4 days (they appeared some time in the middle of last Friday). Also odd is that I subscribe to ESPN-HD and it is still there, but ESPN2-HD disappeared..... Nice work Adelphia :confused:

Guess I get to have one of those one-sided conversations with customer service like others in this thread. "HD Package, we don't have one of those, we don't even offer those channels....."

UPDATE: I called and the rep knew exactly what I was talking about. She said it would be 5 dollars and would replace my ESPN-HD subscription. I also got the offer to try all the movie channels for 3 months for free and it actaully dropped my bill (due to internet bundling) from 130 to 110 per month. She confirmed it would include the HD versions and the OnDemand versions (except Starz OnDemand). She also confirmed that this is the equivalent of the "Ultimate" package and the the Ultimate package does NOT include the HD-Plus tier. It is still $5 additional. HD channels haven't come up yet, but the movie channels were up immediately. She walked me thru each one to make sure they were up and she said to call back if the HD channels didn't come up within 10 minutes. Quite a pleasant suprise.

Here's the situation in Anaheim Hills:
Everything I had gained as part of the free preview (HD Net, HD Net Movies, and ESPN2-HD) are now gone with the "subscription" message showing up. 950 and 951 (presumably inHD and inHD2) are now present but with a "subscription" message and no guide data. NFL-HD (worthless) is still present as well as all the basics). I don't subscribe to any of the movie channels, so can't comment on those. My guess is that the free preview is now over as far as Adelphia is concerned, even though I had the HDNet channels for a grand total of 4 days (they appeared some time in the middle of last Friday). Also odd is that I subscribe to ESPN-HD and it is still there, but ESPN2-HD disappeared..... Nice work Adelphia :confused:

Guess I get to have one of those one-sided conversations with customer service like others in this thread. "HD Package, we don't have one of those, we don't even offer those channels....."

UPDATE: I called and the rep knew exactly what I was talking about. She said it would be 5 dollars and would replace my ESPN-HD subscription. I also got the offer to try all the movie channels for 3 months for free and it actaully dropped my bill (due to internet bundling) from 130 to 110 per month. She confirmed it would include the HD versions and the OnDemand versions (except Starz OnDemand). She also confirmed that this is the equivalent of the "Ultimate" package and the the Ultimate package does NOT include the HD-Plus tier. It is still $5 additional. HD channels haven't come up yet, but the movie channels were up immediately. She walked me thru each one to make sure they were up and she said to call back if the HD channels didn't come up within 10 minutes. Quite a pleasant suprise.

I just called and instantly now have, for $5:

espnhd
espn2hd
hdnet
hdnet movies
inhd
inhd2

Came on a second after giving the ok.. just waiting for the new channels to get the guide information. Not bad for $5, nice deal! I live in La Verne, which is based out of the Glendora office. Also, I was told that On Demand was available in HD, but after a quick look, I didn't see anything that said "HD". I wonder if it is automatically upconverted?

I just called and instantly now have, for $5:

espnhd
espn2hd
hdnet
hdnet movies
inhd
inhd2

Came on a second after giving the ok.. just waiting for the new channels to get the guide information. Not bad for $5, nice deal! I live in La Verne, which is based out of the Glendora office.

Well aren't you the lucky one :rolleyes: After about 45 minutes, my HD tier hadn't authorized, but the movie channels came on immediately (including the HD versions), so I initiated several triggers on my Moxi box and called customer service. Got right thru to someone who could see that I had added the package and that everything should be fine. He sent a signal to the box, which either independently, or in combination with the triggers, caused guide data to appear for inHD and inHD2, however, still no channels. So, currently this is my situation:

902 - CBS - OK
904 - NBC - OK
907 - ABC - OK
911 - FOX - OK
928 - PBS - OK
930 - DIS - OK
931 - HDNet - "subscription" message
932 - HDNet Movies - "subscription message
938 - NFL-HD - OK even though it is supposed to part of the package
939 - ESPN-HD - "subscription" message
940 - ESPN2-HD - "subscription" message
950 - inHD - "subscription" message
951 - inHD2 - "subscription" message
951 - HBO - OK
963 - Cinemax - OK
971 - Showtime - OK

The customer service rep said there was nothing more he could do from his end. He said to either stop by the local office tomorrow, or call back to the same number tomorrow. He informed me there is no way to call the local office anymore, it has to be routed thru the central customer service number. So basically, I just added a $5 service and lost two channels (assuming ESPN and ESPN2 would be considered one thing if it were to stay a separate service) I was already paying for. It certainly has been a rollercoaster day with Adelphia.

Good luck to all those out there attempting to add this package.

In Encino, today, I lost HD Net and HD Net Movies and ESPN2HD, though the guide info is still up, but when I try to watch, I get the subscription message. Now, I have INHD1 and INHD2 guide info, but with the subscription message. After a 20 minute wait to speak with csr (my call was "really" important to them), the moron I can't get those channels. I said I already had them but they went away. Then he said they'd be back on March 4. And he said there would be no extra charge. So basically, he had no idea what he was talking about.

You know, I knew this was coming, even during my discussion this morning with the Adelphia rep who said she didn't know about the "preview" and who had no idea about the new HD channels. So, after reading some messages from the rest of you, I caved in and called Adelphia back tonight, and voila', after agreeing to pay $5 extra, in a matter of seconds, I was receiving all of the additional HD channels here in Sherman Oaks.

Nice stuff, InHD and a few additional movie channels (thank you Mark Cuban), but I'll still never, ever watch the freakin' NFL channel.

BTW, the rep confirmed that TimeWarner will be taking over effective May 1.

I'm getting Moxi listings for InHD 1&2 but no programming. Just the "blue screen".

It took 2 phone calls to A* but now I have all the channels. :D

Thank you Joe and Jeg for telling me what I should have already known -- call again! I called this morning; my call was picked up immediately by an unusually competent csr. I simply said: sign me up for the $5 HD programming, and three seconds later it appeared on my tv. I asked her if there was a record of my call from last night; she said yes; I suggested that someone inform that csr who had no idea what I was talking about so that other customers are not subject to his wrong information. She also confirmed that this would cost me $5 instead of, not in addition to, the $1.50 for ESPN HD

Also, last night's csr told me that the two InHD channels are just pay per view. I told him that couldn't be possible given the programming I've seen in the lineup. I also went on a web site for those channels and there's nothing that indicated it was pay per view. Maybe on occasion they might show a ppv event. Anyone know about that?

In sum, things are looking good. Wish list still includes: TNT HD (though AVS forum contains many criticisms of the TNT HD picture); the next Moxi software upgrade (see Moxi forum for info from Moxi guy presentation) and the new box with Moxi mate (with double storage space). Overall, can't complain . . . . oh, wait a minute, yes I can.

Here is the information about INHD and INHD2 (proving again that A*'s csr was wrong):

INHD and INHD2 are subsidiaries of iN Demand, a leading Pay Per View (PPV) and Video on Demand (VOD) provider in the United States. The company is owned by Comcast iN Demand Holdings, Inc., Cox Communications Inc., and Time Warner Entertainment–Advance/Newhouse partnership.

INHD and INHD2 are dedicated high-definition television channels available only on cable TV in the USA. The content of both channels are available in wide-screen, high-resolution format and will also feature Dolby Digital 5.1 audio when available. While the audio is equivalent to most DVDs, the picture quality is superior. iN Demand is working with major digital file-server vendors and set-top manufacturers to deliver its HD content in the 1080i format.

The INHD channels, which are 24-hour, 7 days per week, 52 weeks per year linear networks are not pay per view channels, rather they are available to cable subscribers with HD service in several cable systems across the USA, usually at no additional charge other than the cost of the HD cable tuner. The channels feature several hundred hours of movies, sports, and general interest programming that maximize the HD experience.

iN Demand has agreements with The Tennis Channel, The Hallmark Channel, NBA TV, College Sports Television Network, and the Anime Network to carry their content when available in HD. Additionally, INHD has exclusive rights to historic Olympic footage, approximately 20 IMAX films, Paramount films, The Twilight Zone featuring Forest Whitaker, and Major League Baseball for the 2004–5 season.

You guys are killing me! This *still* isn't available out of the Fullerton office. I think I'm going to have to stop reading this thread... :mad:

Dan

Well after waiting many years for Adelphia to upgrade the East San Fernando Valley, I finally have HDTV.

I now need to look into the HD package that is only another $5.00. I am sure I will need to speak with at least two different csr people to get it going.
Hell, I am just happy to not have the worst tv of anyone I know anymore.
Thanks Adelphia!!!!!!

Well after waiting many years for Adelphia to upgrade the East San Fernando Valley, I finally have HDTV.

I now need to look into the HD package that is only another $5.00. I am sure I will need to speak with at least two different csr people to get it going.
Hell, I am just happy to not have the worst tv of anyone I know anymore.
Thanks Adelphia!!!!!!

Based on my experience with the new package, if they tell you to wait 20 minutes after they send a signal. They don't know what they're doing. The second CSR chaged a setting and told me to tune to a channel, NOW. It was there! Instantly.

She also told me that once I change to the $5 package and can not revert to ESPN for $1.50. OK by me!
:D

You know, I knew this was coming, even during my discussion this morning with the Adelphia rep who said she didn't know about the "preview" and who had no idea about the new HD channels. So, after reading some messages from the rest of you, I caved in and called Adelphia back tonight, and voila', after agreeing to pay $5 extra, in a matter of seconds, I was receiving all of the additional HD channels here in Sherman Oaks.

Nice stuff, InHD and a few additional movie channels (thank you Mark Cuban), but I'll still never, ever watch the freakin' NFL channel.

BTW, the rep confirmed that TimeWarner will be taking over effective May 1.

I agree, I can't justify the NFLHD channel. I guess if you are a hardcore fan, but all year round? I say they get rid of that and substitute with TNTHD or UniversalHD.

One more thing to add, I just had the HDTV hooked up today and the installer brought the new Moxi box with the built in dvd player. It nice to have one box for HDcable, dvr, and dvd. Very clean looking.

I agree, I can't justify the NFLHD channel. I guess if you are a hardcore fan, but all year round? I say they get rid of that and substitute with TNTHD or UniversalHD.

I'm with you! At least it's not Logo-HD! Not that there's anything wrong with that! :eek:

One more thing to add, I just had the HDTV hooked up today and the installer brought the new Moxi box with the built in dvd player. It nice to have one box for HDcable, dvr, and dvd. Very clean looking.


Interesting.. did we know about this (Moxi thread readers)? I didn't know they were rolling these out or substituting them. I wouldn't care for one myself, but still interesting.

Interesting.. did we know about this (Moxi thread readers)? I didn't know they were rolling these out or substituting them. I wouldn't care for one myself, but still interesting.

Moxiguy, at Moxipalooza, said that Adelphia was going to start rolling out the MoxiMate, so maybe the DVD combo main box is some fall out of that. The DVD was quite interesting, even more interesting when combined with the Mate since it can send either TV or DVD to the other TV with the Mate. The only bad part is that there is no upconversion capability in the box, so it comes out at 480i I believe (maybe 480p in the next SW release wen 480p comes back as an output option).

Well aren't you the lucky one :rolleyes: After about 45 minutes, my HD tier hadn't authorized, but the movie channels came on immediately (including the HD versions), so I initiated several triggers on my Moxi box and called customer service. Got right thru to someone who could see that I had added the package and that everything should be fine. He sent a signal to the box, which either independently, or in combination with the triggers, caused guide data to appear for inHD and inHD2, however, still no channels. So, currently this is my situation:

902 - CBS - OK
904 - NBC - OK
907 - ABC - OK
911 - FOX - OK
928 - PBS - OK
930 - DIS - OK
931 - HDNet - "subscription" message
932 - HDNet Movies - "subscription message
938 - NFL-HD - OK even though it is supposed to part of the package
939 - ESPN-HD - "subscription" message
940 - ESPN2-HD - "subscription" message
950 - inHD - "subscription" message
951 - inHD2 - "subscription" message
951 - HBO - OK
963 - Cinemax - OK
971 - Showtime - OK

The customer service rep said there was nothing more he could do from his end. He said to either stop by the local office tomorrow, or call back to the same number tomorrow. He informed me there is no way to call the local office anymore, it has to be routed thru the central customer service number. So basically, I just added a $5 service and lost two channels (assuming ESPN and ESPN2 would be considered one thing if it were to stay a separate service) I was already paying for. It certainly has been a rollercoaster day with Adelphia.

Good luck to all those out there attempting to add this package.

So I called back this morning before I went to work, and the CSR insisted that the channels would not be enabled until March 4th. When I told her that other people in the LA area had the channels instantly when they ordered the package. She didn't know how the other people could have it instantly, so I just gave up. Maybe I should try again. I did confirm with her that I am not paying for any HD right now since I am not getting any additional, including ESPN-HD. This is such a mess. I know the programming is there since I had ESPN-HD, but because the package is not "enabled" yet, I can't get the content that I know is flowing down the pipe.

Just got home, fired up the set, checked the HDNets, still the same crap. Completely unwatchable. Finally got on the phone with Adelphia and their rep claimed no one else has reported this problem with the new channels. I told him there have been other reports in other SoCal areas from the initial launch of these channels. His reply, "If you are getting heavy pixelation on these channels, it must be a weak signal problem at your end. I'll set up a service call for you!" AAAARRRGGHHH!! After setting him straight again about the issue, he recognized the problem is at the headend and will "get their team of engineers" on it right away. Can't believe no one else has complained about this yet. Guess we'll see how long it takes. Any predictions?


I just went thru the same thing with a csr...I told her that the problem can't be on my end, but she couldn't see any problems reported..blah blah blah....so she said all she could do is make a note and have to wait til tommorow for an engineer to look into it.... :mad: :mad:

HDNet's has been unwatchable for me ever since the free preview, and still is...

I'm in Santa Monica and I'm not seeing any of these new HD channels. Anyone know why?

I just went thru the same thing with a csr...I told her that the problem can't be on my end, but she couldn't see any problems reported..blah blah blah....so she said all she could do is make a note and have to wait til tommorow for an engineer to look into it.... :mad: :mad:

HDNet's has been unwatchable for me ever since the free preview, and still is...

Still the same HDNets crap almost a week after launch. Worst part is I'm paying for it now (HD Plus pack). INhd channels went active yesterday glitch free. After speaking to a couple of Adelphia CSR's it escalated to a supervisor who insisted I needed a service call to evaluate the problem. Sure thing, schedule a service call, find there's nothing wrong with my signal feed, reimburse me for my time wasted. "Sorry, we can't do that, sir." How about crediting my account a month's bill? "We can give you a partial credit if the problems persist." How much? "About half off." Set it up! At least it won't be a complete waste of time.

Still the same HDNets crap almost a week after launch. Worst part is I'm paying for it now (HD Plus pack). .

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Isn't that just salt in the wound !

Problem's at the headend.
Too back the csr's in Colorado don't know that.

I just called and had them set me up with the HD package for the additional $5.00. They got it turned on immediatly. I called my wife at home and she confirmed everything was working. I do not subscribe to the channels over 100, so I do not get NFL network. Which means I didn't get NFL-HD, but now I do since it's part of this HD package. It may not have anything good, but at least I have it.

My friend in Woodland Hills called to do the same and they turned his on instantly as well, but then he noticed that he lost ESPN-HD. He called back and the csr told him they were having problems with it, but they were working on it. She offered to put back ESPN-HD for $1.50, but he would lose HDnet and all the rest. He didn't do that, hoping they get it fixed soon. The csr said others were having the same problem.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with Adelphia regarding this. It took them a while, but at least we got some additional channels. Now if I could just get more capacity on my Moxi box, but that's a discussion for another thread.

I'm in Santa Monica and I'm not seeing any of these new HD channels. Anyone know why?

Altho I'm out in the Inland Empire in Ontario I'm in the same boat as you. However I called Adelphia yesterday and the customer rep told me that Adelphia would still be rolling out the new HD channels in more areas including mine during the month of March. He claimed I would get a mesage on my current cable box letting me know when it became available in my area.

We'll see if he knows what he's talking about. :rolleyes:

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Isn't that just salt in the wound !

Problem's at the headend.
Too back the csr's in Colorado don't know that.

Any chance your signal is too weak, after sending more data to you? You may want to experiment and get a signal booster from somewhere like Radio Shack and see if it makes a difference. If you have a splitter, maybe reduce the amount of splitting, to see if the signal clears up. If you have the Moxi, this could be an issue. I had HD break ups in the past, Adelphia came out and said my signal was too strong and used a 3 way splitter to bring down the signal. It has been stable every since.

I'm in Santa Monica and I'm not seeing any of these new HD channels. Anyone know why?

I believe that Santa Monica is on a 750MHz system like Redondo Beach, which means not enough banwidth for new channels. Ever since the 2 cities next to me (Hermosa and Manhattan Beach) got DiscoveryHD and CinemaxHD 15 months ago I've been going down to the main office to bug them about when we will get them. There answer has always been that we are working on getting the hardware upgraded. I had hope in December when DiscoveryHD showed up for 2 weeks on my QAM tuner on channel 123-1, and it looked great. Channel 123 is at 780MHz which is above the 750MHz limit, so I thought they had upgraded. But the channel disappeared mid December and hasn't been seen since.

I went in last week to ask about the new channels and they are now telling me that maybe Time Warner will upgrade the hardware when they take over sometime in August, but they don't plan to do anything. So it's looks like anyone on Adelphia's 750MHz systems is screwed until Time Warner takes over, which can't happen fast enough for me.

Sorry for the rant, but I REALLY HATE Adelphia at the moment.
:mad:

...they turned his on instantly as well, but then he noticed that he lost ESPN-HD.

Me, too, and I have people coming over tomorrow for Duke-Carolina. The first time I called they explained it's a "coding" problem, said they were referring it to my local office and gave me a service ticket number.

Three hours later--still ESPN-HD-less-- I call back to see if progress has been made. After checking with someone, the service rep comes back and explains that it's a system-wide problem and they're "aware of it." I ask if that's the same thing as addressing it and she says it will be fixed..."at some point." I could not extract anything more specific from her, not even a "non-binding, best-case estimate."

It didn't occur to me to ask her to roll me back to pre-HD Plus. I may have to brave the phone tree again... *sigh*

I am in the East San Fernando Valley and I am also having problems with the new HD channels. I get all of the new ones except ESPN-HD. That one still says the "subscription needed" display. But the funny thing is the other new ones do not show any program info nor do they show up on the Moxi HD channel lineup. I do see them if I channel up and down with my remote though.

I just called and had them set me up with the HD package for the additional $5.00. They got it turned on immediatly. I called my wife at home and she confirmed everything was working. I do not subscribe to the channels over 100, so I do not get NFL network. Which means I didn't get NFL-HD, but now I do since it's part of this HD package. It may not have anything good, but at least I have it.

My friend in Woodland Hills called to do the same and they turned his on instantly as well, but then he noticed that he lost ESPN-HD. He called back and the csr told him they were having problems with it, but they were working on it. She offered to put back ESPN-HD for $1.50, but he would lose HDnet and all the rest. He didn't do that, hoping they get it fixed soon. The csr said others were having the same problem.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with Adelphia regarding this. It took them a while, but at least we got some additional channels. Now if I could just get more capacity on my Moxi box, but that's a discussion for another thread.

I don't subscribe to over channel 100 and NFL-HD or 938 is not available for me.

My "rep" experience is that all the new channels are an additional 5.00. I could keep ESPN2-HD (940)but would lose ESPN-HD (939) if I just wanted the plus tier. I currently pay $28 but "with tax" my new bill is $37. Now that's alot of tax....

Synchron :cool:

Any chance your signal is too weak, after sending more data to you? You may want to experiment and get a signal booster from somewhere like Radio Shack and see if it makes a difference. If you have a splitter, maybe reduce the amount of splitting, to see if the signal clears up. If you have the Moxi, this could be an issue. I had HD break ups in the past, Adelphia came out and said my signal was too strong and used a 3 way splitter to bring down the signal. It has been stable every since.
Thanks for the reply(I think it makes sense for alot of people) but, my signal is just fine. :)

5:00 PM, Pacific. ESPN-HD is back and I am once again whole.

I called tonight and asked about the new HD packages. The CSR read me the new HD Plus promo and pricing and I said sign me up. After a minute or so he said "I'm sorry those services are not available in your area" :mad: :mad: :mad:

Didn't surprise me but I just had to try. :D

He said we should have them available in two weeks. I won't hold my breath but I will call back in two weeks.

Jim

Yea!!!! This morning I have ESPN-HD.

Nice job Adelphia. Still no programming on the new HD channels yet.

Yea!!!! This morning I have ESPN-HD.

Nice job Adelphia. Still no programming on the new HD channels yet.

You may have to call. As I reported earlier, when my channels didn't authorize immediately, I called back and they told me the channels wouldn't be available until March 4th. This morning I looked and still no programming, so I called, waited for ever on hold, and finally got thru. They sent a signal to the box and poof!, I had inHD and inHD2, HDNet, HDNet Movies, ESPN, and ESPN2. Don't know why that couldn't be done automatically, but at least it is fixed now.

Thanks for the tip.
Do the new HD channels show up on the Moxi HD channel section?

Thanks for the tip.
Do the new HD channels show up on the Moxi HD channel section?

That they do!

That they do!
Are you getting that bad pixelation everyone was describing or did they fix that problem.
Do you know what the headend is for Anaheim Hills?

Are you getting that bad pixelation everyone was describing or did they fix that problem.
Do you know what the headend is for Anaheim Hills?

I have not seen severe breakups on any of the channels. I have occasional breakups, but nothing that would make it unwatchable. I have not done too much watching of the inHD channels, but I have watched a fair amount on HDnet.

My headend is listed as La Mirada on my Moxi box.

I too am getting pixilation on the INHD channels in Encino.

Are you getting that bad pixelation everyone was describing or did they fix that problem.
Do you know what the headend is for Anaheim Hills?

stilll getting heavy pixelation with the hdnet's, finally succumbed to getting a service call to see if they can fix it.....

side note, when I was on the phone with the adelphia csr, i asked if there was any new hd channels coming, she said that there was something new coming at the end of the month.....she didn't really get into specifics besides saying they wll notify us....oh well, might be just bs. did anyone else hear about a new channel coming?

I had a lot of pixelation as well starting last night. I called and the csr seemed to fix everything. He told me that I should have program info on the new Hd channels in mid March.

We will have to wait and see.

stilll getting heavy pixelation with the hdnet's, finally succumbed to getting a service call to see if they can fix it.....

Finally had the Adelphia tech show up to address the HDNet's picture problems, and as I predicted, no problems with my signal line. He acknowledged the problem is at the headend and their engineers have been working on this for over a week. He couldn't give me a definite timeframe when the problem would be resolved, only
that it would be taken care of in the next week or so, hopefully. He did say they have received many complaints regarding this issue. My confidence in Adelphia remains unshaken :rolleyes:

Finally had the Adelphia tech show up to address the HDNet's picture problems, and as I predicted, no problems with my signal line. He acknowledged the problem is at the headend and their engineers have been working on this for over a week. He couldn't give me a definite timeframe when the problem would be resolved, only
that it would be taken care of in the next week or so, hopefully. He did say they have received many complaints regarding this issue. My confidence in Adelphia remains unshaken :rolleyes:


damn..not good news for me then..my service call is set up for tomorrow....the csr i spoke to even said there has been no reports of the hdnet problems in my area...we'll see what happens tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure its gonna be the same result that you got... :mad:

I just reported to the CSR that INHD (950) has been MIA since yesterday. Anyone else missing this channel, the rest ar OK.

Update: Working now... :)

damn..not good news for me then..my service call is set up for tomorrow....the csr i spoke to even said there has been no reports of the hdnet problems in my area...we'll see what happens tomorrow.


The Lead Customer Service Rep for your area is
Sarai at 414 – 1440 in Anaheim………I’m sure you know the area code. :)

You may want to give her a ring to enlighten her as to your situation. You may save yourself a needless service call at your home and even obtain a partial refund until they get the problem fixed.

For the last 2 days I have been having problems with channel 950 as well. Sometimes its there and sometimes I get the subscription option.
I am just chalking this up to the system being new and I hope Adelphia is working out the bugs.
Well see what happens.

For the last 2 days I have been having problems with channel 950 as well. Sometimes its there and sometimes I get the subscription option.
I am just chalking this up to the system being new and I hope Adelphia is working out the bugs.
Well see what happens.
When it IS there............do you get pixelation making it unwatchable?

The Lead Customer Service Rep for your area is
Sarai at 414 – 1440 in Anaheim………I’m sure you know the area code. :)

You may want to give her a ring to enlighten her as to your situation. You may save yourself a needless service call at your home and even obtain a partial refund until they get the problem fixed.


thanks for the info...but i need them to switch out my MOXI box anyways, some of the lights on the box doesn't work, like the red recording light....its minor, but I like for it to be working so I know its recording when its suppose to. :D

At this time I am not having any pixelation.

Just a quick update. I know some of you have been having problems with channel 950. Mine has been working fine since it finally came online and I signed up for the $5.00 HD tier plan. But I did have some problems Tuesday. I watched the channel on Tuesday (3-7) morning, went to work and when I came home, I turned on the TV and had the subsrciption message. It was back by the next morning though. I've had problems in the past with ESPN giving me the subsription message. I've called and they always wanted to set up a service call. The problem always fixed itself. All my HD channels look good when working. No pixelation problems.

INHD (950) also out in Los Feliz since Monday. No subscription message, the channel just freezes on what it's being changed from. No pixelation on any channels. I'll call tonight when I get home if it's still out just to put in my 2 cents with Adelphia.

Could it be a NBA or other game blackout thing? The only time I see Ch. 950 with the blue subscription message is when the listed program is NBA Basketball (live or repeat).

When the program is not NBA Basketball, Ch. 950 shows up perfectly fine (Mulholland/Nichols Canyon area of Hollywood!)

P.S. Stupid WBC baseball pre-empted UEFA Champions League, but I am happy to report the Arsenal held Real Madrid to a goalless draw at Highbury, with the Gooners advancing to the quarterfinals via a -- what else? -- one-nil aggregate scoreline! Go on, you Arsenal! Looking forward to the delayed broadcast at 9:30 p.m. PST this evening on Ch. 940 espn2 hd!

P.S. Stupid WBC baseball pre-empted UEFA Champions League, but I am happy to report the Arsenal held Real Madrid to a goalless draw at Highbury, with the Gooners advancing to the quarterfinals via a -- what else? -- one-nil aggregate scoreline! Go on, you Arsenal! Looking forward to the delayed broadcast at 9:30 p.m. PST this evening on Ch. 940 espn2 hd!
Man you’re KILLIN me!

Please don’t report anything like that until AFTER the match is broadcast or use the AVS spoiler to hide those comments.

That being said, I’m happy that the club which plays the most entertaining football in the Prem is advancing to the quarters !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man you’re KILLIN me!

Please don’t report anything like that until AFTER the match is broadcast or use the AVS spoiler to hide those comments.

+1 :(


That being said, I’m happy that the club which plays the most entertaining football in the Prem is advancing to the quarters !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, but too bad the Gunners are getting their ass handed to them (relative to their usual seasonal performance) this season in the Premiership.

I'm in deep mourning...fourth is looking unachievable...

pj

Whoops...my bad...like Reyes trying to finish! :eek:

Will have to say that whatever time the match was broadcast, the PQ was massively better than on analog Ch. 40. World Cup in true HD should be fantastic.

Back to last night, more and more, I was able to see just how Ronaldo really has to be the Barry Bonds of football...bloated, recalcitrant, etc. Hope we draw Villareal!

I called and the HD Plus package is not available in Redondo. So no ESPN2 HD or TNT HD. :(

Just checked in with A*'s csr to ask about the Moxi 9022 with Moxi Mate. I was assured first that there is no such thing. Then, after insisting there was and that someone in my neighborhood has one -- which I described as the dvr with the dvd built into it -- I was put on hold for a while. She came back and said: Those new boxes were only available because for a while we ran out of the old boxes, but now we have more old boxes. She said they could request a switch out of my box but could not guarantee that it would be switched for the new one. She could guarantee that the service call would cost $25. I was going to chance it, but then I asked about the Moxi Mate -- "the smaller box that is a companion to the one with the dvd player in it." She had no idea what that was but said that there is no other box. I said nevermind. I still am curious as to whether anyone in So Cal Adelphia land has the Moxi Mate?

Boyz:

After watching INHD (Ch. 950) all day, guess what happens to the picture as soon as NBA Basketball begins at 4:30 p.m. PST. Yep, you guessed it -- the blue subscription screen. I fully expect it again during the second spot of NBA Basketball at 7 p.m. PST.

What say ye?

P.S. Juve v. Arsenal! Tough!

Boyz:

After watching INHD (Ch. 950) all day, guess what happens to the picture as soon as NBA Basketball begins at 4:30 p.m. PST. Yep, you guessed it -- the blue subscription screen. I fully expect it again during the second spot of NBA Basketball at 7 p.m. PST.

What say ye?

P.S. Juve v. Arsenal! Tough!

I saw that today too! What's up? All of the NBA is blacked out? I always thought just local coverage if another network has it? Is it A* just not knowing what to do? :confused: :(

Anyone else getting the scrolling message at the bottom of the screen on Discovery HD Theater... "this feed for the discovery hd theater will soon be going dark please contact your cable operator..." I called Adelphia, and of course they claimed stupidity!

Reminds me of the issues that DTV had in the past with some of the programming providers.

This is appearing in the Redlands/Yucaipa Area.

I must be hallucinating. After two friggin weeks, the HDNets are finally watchable and glitch free!! Time to fire up the 40K and commence recording, starting with the classic Caddyshack. Patience pays off, got the HDNets and heavily discounted cable for March, for the hassle. Feel like a cable ho and Adelphia's my pimp :D

As predicted, INHD (Ch. 950 here in Nichols Canyon/Mulholland Drive area of Los Angeles) came back on like a champ at exactly 9:30 p.m. PST.

Who's good at shaking down A* for the straight dope? Not me! I'm still guessing! Ole-ole-ole-o-le!

Just a guess but A* offers/sells season passes to major sports leagues - NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL - for around $180/season/sport. Another guess is that it's the same feed that goes to INHD via the leagues themselves. Ergo, a conflict in showing games on both the season pass and on an HDTV channel.

fwiw

thx arv...makes perfect sense...have to say, despite all the heavy weather and such, hd channels have held up beautifully.

I must be hallucinating. After two friggin weeks, the HDNets are finally watchable and glitch free!! Time to fire up the 40K and commence recording, starting with the classic Caddyshack. Patience pays off, got the HDNets and heavily discounted cable for March, for the hassle. Feel like a cable ho and Adelphia's my pimp :D


same here for me..HDNet's are finally working for me also....about freakin time :p

For about 3 or 4 months I have been having a problem with my NBCHD channel. (I'm serviced out of the Fullerton office.) During this time, whenever NBC actually showed HD content, the picture always had pixelation lines that made it very difficult to watch. I have had a tech out to work on it, but of course they don't come out when NBC actually shows HD, which is normally Prime Time. If I had thought about it I would have scheduled something during the Olympics. I never thought the problem was on my end anyway, but what do I know?

Anyway, about two weeks ago I got a call from Adelphia asking how my service was. I told him it sucked (I actually used that term) and explained the whole thing. He wanted to send a tech out, but when he finally understood that it would have to be during Prime Time, he said he couldn't do it and that was that. When he ended the call with their boilerplate "Is there anything we can do to make your service better?" I almost blew a gasket, but I was so flabbergasted that the guy would say that after the conversation we had, I was speachless.

They actually called a second time, and this time my wife read them the riot act. She *never* gets upset, but I guess she's heard me complain about it enough, so this time she was upset. Again they said they couldn't do anything about it.

Here's the part I hesitate to say out loud, for fear it could be "famous last words." A few days after the last call, about a week ago, I noticed that NBCHD looked fine. And every time I've looked at it since, it's been fine. Do you think it's actually possible that someone listened to me and looked on their end for problems?

Anyway, I'm a happy camper now. We'll see how long it lasts. Now if they would just add the other HD channels all you people are talking about, I could die in peace.

-Dan

. Do you think it's actually possible that someone listened to me and looked on their end for problems?
-Dan
Nope, I think dem ducks just stopped chewin on the cable wire going into your home. :)

I'm surprised that you can't get the HD package that is now out, are you sure it's not available in Placentia?

Nope, I think dem ducks just stopped chewin on the cable wire going into your home. :)

I'm surprised that you can't get the HD package that is now out, are you sure it's not available in Placentia?
No ducks, at least not recently. :p

You know, I hate it when someone asks an obvious question like that. No, now that I think of it, I'm *not* sure it's not offered. I have been assuming that since I haven't seen anything new in the HD Channels menu that it isn't available. But I suppose I should call and find out. I'll do that tonight.

-Dan

I have been assuming that since I haven't seen anything new in the HD Channels menu that it isn't available. But I suppose I should call and find out. I'll do that tonight.
I called Adelphia last night. The CSR said no, the HD Plus package isnt available in my area yet. He said I was the first person to call about the package from an area that doesn't have it yet. He said his bosses told him that it was being rolled out "everywhere" soon, so he said I should expect to see it by the end of the month, but not to quote him on it (I think maybe I just did).

I won't hold my breath for the end of the month (that's a long breath), but I have a *small* glimmer of hope that I might see it eventually. I did, however, sign up for 3 free months of HBO and Cinemax. It's interesting -- I did this once before and cancelled after the 3 months, and I expect to do the same again. I guess they don't care. Who am I to turn down free TV, even if there's rarely something I want to see? I have to say, however, that seeing Drew Barrymore in HD is really something. :D

-Dan

Has anyone had severe video pixelation problems with sound coming on/off sporadically with HDNet movies recently? I recorded a movie that is completely unwatchable and notice that even live, 931 is there but unwatchable.

Of course, all the other 900 channels I receive are coming in fine, including 961 HBO and the new 950/951 InHD. Is it the Simi Valley Headend or is everyone seeing this and it is coming from outside Adelphia??

TIA,

Synchron :cool:

Has anyone had severe video pixelation problems with sound coming on/off sporadically with HDNet movies recently? I recorded a movie that is completely unwatchable and notice that even live, 931 is there but unwatchable.

Of course, all the other 900 channels I receive are coming in fine, including 961 HBO and the new 950/951 InHD. Is it the Simi Valley Headend or is everyone seeing this and it is coming from outside Adelphia??

TIA,

Synchron :cool:

I'm in Simi Valley also and have not noticed any problems on HD Net or HD Net Movies (930 or 931). I have not noticed any real pixelation problems on any channels.

I'm in Simi Valley also and have not noticed any problems on HD Net or HD Net Movies (930 or 931). I have not noticed any real pixelation problems on any channels.

For about two weeks, I have had minor pixelation on all HD channels. They were rock solid until then. It is starting to annoy me now, more so because my internet service has gone on the fritz and getting packet loss, killing my VOIP...uggg. They say everything seems fine.

I called Adelphia last night. The CSR said no, the HD Plus package isnt available in my area yet. He said I was the first person to call about the package from an area that doesn't have it yet. He said his bosses told him that it was being rolled out "everywhere" soon, so he said I should expect to see it by the end of the month, but not to quote him on it (I think maybe I just did).

I won't hold my breath for the end of the month (that's a long breath), but I have a *small* glimmer of hope that I might see it eventually. I did, however, sign up for 3 free months of HBO and Cinemax. It's interesting -- I did this once before and cancelled after the 3 months, and I expect to do the same again. I guess they don't care. Who am I to turn down free TV, even if there's rarely something I want to see? I have to say, however, that seeing Drew Barrymore in HD is really something. :D

-Dan


I'm in camarillo and still no new channels. Don't even have discovery hd. I've called three times now and each time I get put on hold while they speak with their manager and always respond with "no specific dates at this time but we are rolling out to new areas all the time".

Thanks adelphia, I'm glad you were able to get the system up to block ********** seeding so quickly but can't seem to add hd channels. I guess they spent all the money from the price increases to block peer to peer packets and can't afford to add new channels.

To everyone with pixelation problems -

I fixed mine by buying an RF-Signal Attenuator from radio shack (Catalog #: 15-678) and setting it to about 1/3 from Max. I dont know why this worked, but after having constant pixelation I have not had a single bit since this install. Easy 10 dollar fix, I highly suggest it.

To everyone with pixelation problems -

I fixed mine by buying an RF-Signal Attenuator from radio shack (Catalog #: 15-678) and setting it to about 1/3 from Max. I dont know why this worked, but after having constant pixelation I have not had a single bit since this install. Easy 10 dollar fix, I highly suggest it.

Sounds like your case was a weak signal, so adjusting the attenuator is boosting the signal, if I got that right?

On a side note, I started to get pixelation about a week ago, that I noticed. I also have had bad internet problems since Friday. I finally got a nice and knowledgeable tech on the phone, that agreed that I seem to have a line problem. Signal is great to the box, but bad timeouts up to my modem, which is split to the TV. The testing was in regards to my internet connection, but likely is affecting my picture quality also (intermittent pixelization). I will see what happens on Saturday , when they come out to look at it.

To everyone with pixelation problems -

I fixed mine by buying an RF-Signal Attenuator from radio shack (Catalog #: 15-678) and setting it to about 1/3 from Max. I dont know why this worked, but after having constant pixelation I have not had a single bit since this install. Easy 10 dollar fix, I highly suggest it.

Botond is that attenuator the same as an amplifier? If not will it work with one?

Attenuators are the opposite of amplifiers, they attenuate the signal (read: make it weaker).

Adelphia wins court ok for $1.3 billion loan
By Bloomberg News
March 16, 2006

Adelphia Communications Corp., the bankrupt cable operator, won court approval of a five-month extension to a $1.3 billion financing agreement to allow the company to cover expenses until it exits bankruptcy.

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Robert Gerber, in a ruling today in New York, authorized Adelphia to continue borrowing an $800 million revolving loan and $500 million term loan from JPMorgan Chase & Co., Citigroup Inc. and other lenders through Aug. 7. The loan was scheduled to expire March 31.

The approval comes a month before Gerber is scheduled to consider approval of a plan for Adelphia to emerge from bankruptcy and repay creditors through the $17.6 billion sale of most of its assets to Time Warner Inc. and Comcast Corp. The cable operator owed creditors more than $18 billion when it filed for bankruptcy protection in 2002.

"It is imperative that the maturity date of the existing loan agreement be extended and that the debtor has continued access to borrowings," Adelphia lawyer Paul Shalhoub said in court papers. "The extension is necessary to provide the debtor with financing necessary to continue to operate pending consummation of the sale transactions and the plan."

The Greenwood Village, Colorado-based cable operator filed for bankruptcy protection in June 2002 following an accounting fraud orchestrated by company founder John Rigas and his son Timothy Rigas. They were convicted in July 2004 of conspiracy and securities fraud.

Adelphia’s 10.875 percent notes maturing in 2010 fell .75 cents to 64.75 cents on the dollar, according to Trace, the bond-price reporting system of the NASD. The company’s shares fell .4 cent to 5.1 cents in over-the-counter trading.

The bankruptcy case is: In re Adelphia Communications Corp., 02-41729, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, New York.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/other_business/article/0,2777,DRMN_23916_4547105,00.html

I am signing up for adelphia hd. Anyone have advice on the type of box/dvr I should ask to recieve or any deals to inquire about.

I am signing up for adelphia hd. Anyone have advice on the type of box/dvr I should ask to recieve or any deals to inquire about.

I believe the only game in town for a DVR that does HD is the Moxi box, so not much choice there. There is also a Motorola HD STB that does not have DVR capabilities (at least the one I had didn't). As far as deals, many of the people on this board (including myself) have reported getting an offer of 3 months free of all the movie channels, including their HD and OnDemand equivalents (except Starz OnDemand which is an additional fee even if you have a subscription to Starz), when they signed up for the newly introduced HD Plus Tier. That seems to be the most lucrative of the offers at this point.

I am signing up for adelphia hd. Anyone have advice on the type of box/dvr I should ask to recieve or any deals to inquire about.

I'am in Echo pk and I use Adelphia Eagle Rock service. I signed up to their Ultimate Service Package which includes all their basic and premium channnels and all the HD channels. They sent me the Moxi DVR Motorola Broadband Media center I believe it's the BFM9022. It has a built in DVD player. I'am very impressed
with the performance of this cable box. I have it hooked up to a SONY 34XS955 and all the HD channels look great. I'am even more impressed by how good the analog channels look. The Moxi box must some how process the signal because the basic channels look far better then they did on the old digital cable box. Some of the analog channels like 46 TBS and 51 TNT look better than most of the digital channels. The only complaint I have is the DVD player looks like crap. It's 480i no progressive scan. And you can't record with it. Except for that I highly recommend the box. When I record a HD program I can't see any difference between a recording or a regular broadcast.

I have the Arcadia Ultimate package with HD and a 6200 STB (non-DVR). Everything is fine - no pixelation, stuttering, etc. The signal is split once and I can't complain about any channels from the STB, but the coax to the TV is a horrible picture. I may remove the splitter.

Adelphia sent me a postcard early this year for 25% off everything for 3 months which I'm taking advantage of into April. AFAIK, TimeWarner is taking over in May. Their prices are comparable, obviously, but the last CSR I spoke to had no info on any changes in the works.

Great, thanks for the advice. Still waiting for adelphia to confirm order. Hoping to have it soon.

I have to give the Adelphia csr some credit.
I called a few weeks ago about the lack of program info for the new HD package channels. The csr told me I would have the info on March 16th. I of course said great but I did not believe it.
Well I am happy to say when I turned on the tv on the morning of the 16th the program info was there.
So chalk one up for Adelphia.
I also have the BFM9022 box. Its a great box and the fact that it has a 160 gb hard drive is awesome but I echo cctaximan and say that its too bad that the built in dvd player is 480i.
I guess I will keep my progressive scan dvd player hooked up to my tv.

Anyone else getting heavy breakup on Fox HD tonight? It's not present OTA (which is what I switched to because of the breakup). It was present during the Simpsons, which isn't even an HD program. The breakup is occuring on my Moxi box, and the only thing recording is the Simpsons, so I don't think it's a 2 tuner recording/signal issue. This is the first time I've seen severe pixelation.

Anyone else enjoying the free trial of HBOHD and CinemaxHD?

Anyone else enjoying the free trial of HBOHD and CinemaxHD?

I watched one movie. I already had the DVD but didn't get to it, so, saw it in HD. (Day After Tomorrow) :D