Has anybody seen the new TWC magazine (http://www.twc-lawelcome.com/twc/200607/)?

"We hope you enjoy using Time Warner Cable. If you have suggestions for additional features or for improving current ones, please let us know."

Cust.Ops@twcla.com

Mine came in the mail two days ago.

Santa Clarita City Sues Time Warner

By Josh Premako
Senior Staff Writer
Friday August 25, 2006

The city has filed a lawsuit against Time Warner Cable Inc., claiming the company was attempting to transfer the franchises of Comcast Corp. without Santa Clarita's consent.

Officially, Time Warner's franchise agreement with Santa Clarita expired April 4, 2004, but that hasn't kept the company from operating here.

"(Time Warner) does not have an active franchise agreement," city technology services manager Kevin Tonoian said. "It is the equivalent of a tenant holdover."

Over the last two years, he said there have been negotiations, but the cable company has yet to come to an agreement for a renewed franchise.

Most significantly, Tonoian wants Time Warner to come up with an agreement that retains its oversight of SCVTV Public Channel 20.

On July 26, the city attorney's office filed a lawsuit with the state Superior Court, requesting that Time Warner be barred from transferring into its control franchise areas of the Comcast.

The lawsuit contends that Time Warner was attempting to transfer the franchises of Comcast without the city's consent, said city attorney Stephen Onstot of Burke, Williams and Sorensen.

Recently, Time Warner and Comcast acquired the split assets of bankrupt Adelphia Communication Corp., and would have exchanged certain cable system assets.

A transfer would require approval by the City Council - which Time Warner has yet to obtain.

Patricia Fregoso-Cox, Time Warner's vice president of community affairs, said she could not comment on the lawsuit Thursday.

The point of the suit is to "get Time Warner to come to the table," Onstot said. "We really need to get a franchise together."

While the cable company is attempting to have the case moved to a federal court in the hopes of better treatment, Onstot said he hopes to see the matter heard in a civil court "in a few weeks."

"The city and representatives of Time Warner are continuing to have dialogue," he said. "It's certainly the city's hope ... that we'll be able to come to reach some kind of agreement."

http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=32332&format=html

Ever since the switch from Comcast to Time Warner a couple weeks ago, my 6412 Phase III box resets itself every 3 - 4 days so that the Program Guide almost always says "To Be Announced" on every channel and as a result, I cannot record shows more than a day or two in advance. Has anybody had this problem since the switch to Time Warner or is it just a coincidence that it started happening during the switch over?

Ever since the switch from Comcast to Time Warner a couple weeks ago, my 6412 Phase III box resets itself every 3 - 4 days so that the Program Guide almost always says "To Be Announced" on every channel and as a result, I cannot record shows more than a day or two in advance. Has anybody had this problem since the switch to Time Warner or is it just a coincidence that it started happening during the switch over?

I recall having seen this when the switch first went through but don't recall seeing it recently. I'll check when I get home.

Santa Clarita City Sues Time Warner

By Josh Premako
Senior Staff Writer
Friday August 25, 2006

The city has filed a lawsuit against Time Warner Cable Inc., claiming the company was attempting to transfer the franchises of Comcast Corp. without Santa Clarita's consent.
Surprising. I believe one of the big hold-ups of the Merger was the Los Angeles City Council's approval of the Aldephia-Time Warner deal and new franchise for Time Warner. I don't know why they neglected to have similar franchise deals with the other municipalities under consideration while waiting on LA City.

I am not sure if this is the right place but...
I can't get a picture (video) with the HDTV channels, just audio. I have had the service for a couple of years and have always used OTA for my local HD channels, but wanted to see what the HD channels look like via TWC (formerly Adelphia in my area). All I get is sound, but no picture. Any ideas?
Thanks!

I am not sure if this is the right place but...
I can't get a picture (video) with the HDTV channels, just audio. I have had the service for a couple of years and have always used OTA for my local HD channels, but wanted to see what the HD channels look like via TWC (formerly Adelphia in my area). All I get is sound, but no picture. Any ideas?
Thanks!

Bad cable? How are you hooked to what?

The cable feed goes into the box and the box feeds to the Cable input in my Sony 34XBR960. The rest of the cable channels are fine, just not getting a picture with the HD Channels, 971, 942 etc,

Thanks

Please disregard, the problem is related to TWC's own stupidity! Thank for the help!

Please disregard, the problem is related to TWC's own stupidity! Thank for the help!

Not using component cables out of the box? Or non-HD box?

Anyone using a Motorola Moxi BMC9012 ever have it miss a recording and if you go into "Canceled & Deleted" it shows it as "Not Recorded (Error)"

What does this mean? It's happened to me three times in one week already.

I had a service call on this issue today. When the tech was on his way I realized what may be the issue. I was waiting for him and was changing channels and noticed that the majority of the HD channels were giving me the "you do not subscribe to this channel" error. I do subscribe and I know I get these channels so I assume there is probably a signal issue. So when my scheduled to record items do not record and show "Not Recorded (Error)" it is probably because the channel is not coming in at that time.

So the tech did tests on the line and outside there were a lot of corrected errors and inside only a few uncorrected errors. I'm not sure the terms to use for some of these numbers but here they are over a 40 second period of time:

Outside
109 -- 1562/0
103 -- 3254/0
108 -- 6755/0
122 -- 50279/0

Inside (TV)
109 -- 1987/15
103 -- 5815/0
108 -- 7400/0
122 -- 56298/1

I'm not sure the correct term for the first column of numbers. But for example Inside on 122 there are 56298 corrected errors and 1 uncorrected error. And supposedly 122 is where the HD channels come in so that would make sense why I've been seeing the "Not Recorded (Error)" on the mostly HD shows that are scheduled to record.

So its true there aren't many uncorrected errors for this specific 40 seconds of time, but since there are a high number of errors there is a higher probability that there will be at other times of the day.

The thing is, the tech said he can't schedule maintenance on the line with so few UNcorrected errors, but that he would ask his supervisor to try.

hows the OC area doing for TWC?

I thought the changes would be negligible for a while yet...
They changed the banner, added an ad at the foot of the guide--and changed out the V.O.D. content to a great deal of good stuff that I hadn't seen (Moxie for instance.)

When I check for messages it still says Comcast on that screen (but that appears to be the only one they forgot.

But, and this is a vast but... they somehow got a software fix in for the 6412 II's/III's that had previously been a massive annoyance factor.

Often on those boxes (for the whole time they'd been out via AT&T and then Comcast) would turn on to a blank channel. You'd see the channel number as correct--but no picture or sound even with the info banner being correct. Then you'd have to (I **** you not) go to the DVR, hit play for a second on any show you'd copied--and hit the LAST button to take you back to the regular channel line up (now working.)

I'd complained forever.

The funny thing is that there is no new firmware/software/bios information in the info screen. It appears to have been solved at the head-end rather than on the receiver.

Needless to say--the annoyance factor is much lower.

If I have a single complaint about the change (MINOR AS HELL) it would be that when you select HD Guide--it automatically starts at HBO instead of at the top of the HD content (which it did previously and gave us DiscoveryHD/172.)

At this point, I'm slavering for HDNet and hoping (c'mon Mark, lean on them?!?) that they'll put it up early so I can watch the shuttle launch.

Grrr.

Enough.

I am so disappointed It seems here in Oxnard we are not able to get the new HD Package yet. We are also not getting the standard ESPN2 or Cinemamax HD that was added when Adelphia changed to Time Warner. We did get TNT HD and DiscoveryHD.

Why are we not able to the the same HD channels as everyone else in SO CAL?

Does anyone know why this is? I feel cheated.

When I called to ask Time warner to add the new HD package they were going to with out hesitiation. Then I asked why I was not getting CinamaxHD etc... and she was suprised too. She then realized that she could not offer me the new HD pakage either. Any one know what is up? :confused:

I am so disappointed It seems here in Oxnard we are not able to get the new HD Package yet. We are also not getting the standard ESPN2 or Cinemamax HD that was added when Adelphia changed to Time Warner. We did get TNT HD and DiscoveryHD.

Why are we not able to the the same HD channels as everyone else in SO CAL?

Does anyone know why this is? I feel cheated.

When I called to ask Time warner to add the new HD package they were going to with out hesitiation. Then I asked why I was not getting CinamaxHD etc... and she was suprised too. She then realized that she could not offer me the new HD pakage either. Any one know what is up? :confused:
I don't have an answer, but I can tell you you're not alone.

Here in North Redondo Beach, we have the same channel line-up as you, and I share your frustration.

I don't have an answer, but I can tell you you're not alone.

Here in North Redondo Beach, we have the same channel line-up as you, and I share your frustration.

Same channel line up in Santa Monica too. Probably because we are on a 750mhz system and the areas with the HD package (cinemax hd, inhd1&2, Hdnet, hdnet movies, nflHD, espn 2HD..) are on a 860mhz system

Hopefully when they start using the switch digital technology or just switch to all digital, they will free up enough bandwidth for those channels.

Same channel line up in Santa Monica too. Probably because we are on a 750mhz system and the areas with the HD package (cinemax hd, inhd1&2, Hdnet, hdnet movies, nflHD, espn 2HD..) are on a 860mhz system

Hopefully when they start using the switch digital technology or just switch to all digital, they will free up enough bandwidth for those channels.
I actually hope TWC does NOT move to SDV here in SoCal, since that technology is not compatible with the Tivo Series 3 HD PVR I hope to get when it is released in the next month or two.

I am so disappointed It seems here in Oxnard we are not able to get the new HD Package yet. We are also not getting the standard ESPN2 or Cinemamax HD that was added when Adelphia changed to Time Warner. We did get TNT HD and DiscoveryHD.

Why are we not able to the the same HD channels as everyone else in SO CAL?

Does anyone know why this is? I feel cheated.

When I called to ask Time warner to add the new HD package they were going to with out hesitiation. Then I asked why I was not getting CinamaxHD etc... and she was suprised too. She then realized that she could not offer me the new HD pakage either. Any one know what is up? :confused:

I have been told that when our GTE Americast>>Verizon>>Adelphia>>Time Warner plant was built in 1996, the headend was built to handle 750 Mhz of bandwidth. The additional hd channels will require significant headend upgrade. Supposedly Time Warner is going to do that sometime before the end of this year, and perhaps then we will get the additional hd chanels.

I guess it wasn't in Adelphia's interest to give us anything extra return for our subscription fees, and they probably didn't have the cash to do any improvement, so we got nothing. Amazing though, wasn't it, that as soon as Time Warner came in, that enough bandwidth for 2 more hd channels just happened to "occur". Physics is funny like that. Maybe it wasn't science. Maybe the bandwidth was divinely created. Equal opportunity theory, lest anyone claim I am close-minded.

I actually hope TWC does NOT move to SDV here in SoCal, since that technology is not compatible with the Tivo Series 3 HD PVR I hope to get when it is released in the next month or two.

Today in TiVO Series 3 news:
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/rumor-hd-tivo-series-3-released-september-17-for-799-197051.php

Time Warner Cable's chief technology officer Mike LaJoie has big plans for his company's hybrid fiber coax plant, but thanks to switched digital, these plans won't take a huge bite out of his bandwidth.

LaJoie: We are constantly trying to look out and imagine the product profile that we're going to have to support in three to five years. And we've said we'll probably have to support up to 75 hi-def channels, we'll have to support continuing increases in speed for data, we'll have to continue to support the analog channels, because they're not going away in five years, and we'll have to continue to support standard def. And to get there, we determined that broadcast will have to diminish and switching will have to grow.

http://www.cableworld.com/cgi/cw/show_mag.cgi?pub=cw&mon=062606&file=meetthemsotime.htm

I have been told that when our GTE Americast>>Verizon>>Adelphia>>Time Warner plant was built in 1996, the headend was built to handle 750 Mhz of bandwidth. The additional hd channels will require significant headend upgrade. Supposedly Time Warner is going to do that sometime before the end of this year, and perhaps then we will get the additional hd chanels.

I guess it wasn't in Adelphia's interest to give us anything extra return for our subscription fees, and they probably didn't have the cash to do any improvement, so we got nothing. Amazing though, wasn't it, that as soon as Time Warner came in, that enough bandwidth for 2 more hd channels just happened to "occur". Physics is funny like that. Maybe it wasn't science. Maybe the bandwidth was divinely created. Equal opportunity theory, lest anyone claim I am close-minded.


I'm willing to bet adelphia could have added those channels long ago however TW prevented it so that the day they took over they could flip the switch and say "see we are already working to make things better, now when the price increase comes just remember we are trying" I wouldn't count on them finishing a head end upgrade anytime soon. I'd say summer of next year at the earliest. I remember calling back when the HDNET tiers were first starting to appear in LA and being told upgrades had already been started and it should be a month or two. Well that was over six months ago if I remember correctly.

Hopefully verizon will offer tv soon, I have more faith in that actually happening.

I thought the changes would be negligible for a while yet...
They changed the banner, added an ad at the foot of the guide--and changed out the V.O.D. content to a great deal of good stuff that I hadn't seen (Moxie for instance.)

When I check for messages it still says Comcast on that screen (but that appears to be the only one they forgot.

But, and this is a vast but... they somehow got a software fix in for the 6412 II's/III's that had previously been a massive annoyance factor.

Often on those boxes (for the whole time they'd been out via AT&T and then Comcast) would turn on to a blank channel. You'd see the channel number as correct--but no picture or sound even with the info banner being correct. Then you'd have to (I **** you not) go to the DVR, hit play for a second on any show you'd copied--and hit the LAST button to take you back to the regular channel line up (now working.)

I'd complained forever.

The funny thing is that there is no new firmware/software/bios information in the info screen. It appears to have been solved at the head-end rather than on the receiver.

Needless to say--the annoyance factor is much lower.

If I have a single complaint about the change (MINOR AS HELL) it would be that when you select HD Guide--it automatically starts at HBO instead of at the top of the HD content (which it did previously and gave us DiscoveryHD/172.)

At this point, I'm slavering for HDNet and hoping (c'mon Mark, lean on them?!?) that they'll put it up early so I can watch the shuttle launch.

Grrr.

Enough.
Sitting in Costa Mesa also Rick. My biggest beef is the ad on the guide. Now you can only view 4 channels at a time. I have also noticed that recordings on the DVR (6412 PIII) will play back in 5.1 now. I complained along time about that. Not sure when it happened though. I hope Eriv still follows this thread from all of us old Comcast members.

Sitting in Costa Mesa also Rick. My biggest beef is the ad on the guide. Now you can only view 4 channels at a time.

I'm in Cypress, and I agree. But I figure, this ad (and others like it) are going to be the cost of everybody fast fowarding through all commercials. I'm affraid we're gonna have to get used to stuff like this, I'm sure commercials are gonna keep popping up in stranger and stranger places.

Other than that, everything seems find with Time Warner, but I'm not really watching much stuff during the summer, so I may be missing all the problems.

-Beefshank

In what respects? Bill is the same, got TNT-HD immediately, logo on the Moxi screen changed. Other than that...same as Adelphia

BTW, has anybody closely watched those Adlphia/Comcast -> TWC transition commercials they are always running? They always show one Comcast van and one Adelphia van disappearing and becoming one TWC van.... Does this mean we should expect an even lower level of service and longer waits for service appts (since two vans turn into one)? :cool:

I just ordered TWC..

they couldn't even find the tier 2 HD channels on her computer..

I'm in newport beach so its normally an Adelphia area..

She said that I don't have ALL the HD channels yet, but in "90 days". we'll be on TWC channels..

I WANT NFL NETWORK (http://nfl.viewerlink.tv/)

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Find out if your cable provider plans to (ed.) offers NFL Network and to demand your provider add NFL Network.

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I'm sure there's gotta be at least a few people here that want to see the UCLA vs UTAH game in HD this saturday off FSN Prime HD, make sure to call TWC and pester them to carry it!!!
http://www.tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=275
http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD
Note: it took about an hour of waiting on hold and arguing with TWC to get them to admit something was wrong with the head-end to show the Dogers game in HD on the 28th..;
Go Gators!!!

I'm sure there's gotta be at least a few people here that want to see the UCLA vs UTAH game in HD this saturday off FSN Prime HD, make sure to call TWC and pester them to carry it!!!
I don't. ;)

I don't. ;)


I would agree. Fight On!

Then again, I am an HD addict and will watch just about anything in HD, even Bruins (as long as it doesn't overlap the SC game). BTW, couldn't the article even get their facts straight. They called the game a Pac10 match up. When did Utah join the Pac10? :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, there are not plans to add FNS HD in our systems in the near future. Maybe, after the digital simulcast is done, we may be able to scrap some bandwidth and use it there. Too late for this football season, I am afraid.

GO Bruins,

Unfortunately, there are not plans to add FNS HD in our systems in the near future. Maybe, after the digital simulcast is done, we may be able to scrap some bandwidth and use it there. Too late for this football season, I am afraid.

GO Bruins,

Then why is TWC teasing that Fox Sports HD is comming? This should mean somewhat soon, not 3 years from now? :confused:
Fight On!

They've been showing dodgers and angels games off FSNW-HD and FSNPrime-HD on the TBA Events channel (1105) throughout the summer, so they definitely have some sort of capability to get the FSN-HD feed through to the rest of us (although i'm not sure if those were considered part of MLB EI package) I hope this isn't considered a lost cause for the whole season, of the games shown on FSNBA's schedule (http://fsnbayarea.com/Sched_CollegeHD.jsp) i'd really like to see the USC vs Oregon game in HD, although i guess there's no guarantee that FSNPrime or FSNWest is carrying these cfb games in HD

Oh, and the Utes will join the pac-10 as soon as we convince washington to leave ;)

What is the TBA Special Events channel 1105, and do Moxi users in former adelphia land get this channel. I don't in Encino.

It's channel 1105, not sure if/when any TW converts will get the channel; i'm in canoga park and it's been TW territory since i moved here. Most of the time the channel is a standard def static image of a schedule of FSN-HD baseball games, and sometimes it's a test-pattern; except when it's actually the rare FSN-HD baseball games

Hmm, in Hermosa Beach, we have 1110 on our lineup but it never has anything. When was the last special event program?

well, i'm watching the UCLA game in HD right now on 1105, the info just says "To Be Announced"

How do you get to 1105? My 6412 doeshn't show any channels above 999.

How do you get to 1105? My 6412 doeshn't show any channels above 999.


I think it's a SA box, right??

SA? It's a HD DVR box formerly from Comcast.

my box is one of the SA HD boxes, not sure which model, too bad the utes couldn't keep up :(

kracko are you a recent convert to TW or originally TW? i'm in canoga park, all my HD channels are in the 1100's

kracko are you a recent convert to TW or originally TW? i'm in canoga park, all my HD channels are in the 1100's

I'm a recent convert from Comcast. I'm in Ranch Park.

Has anybody here looked or had the chance to see what Verizon FIOS is offering and the quality?

SA? It's a HD DVR box formerly from Comcast.

No brand? Comcast is NOT a brand.

No brand? Comcast is NOT a brand.

I know that. I had previously said it was a 6412. Could that be anything but a Motorolla?

Good to see you are still around Kracko. A few of us former Comcast guys are still around. It looks like we can't always talk about the same channels, since there are Motorola boxes and SA boxes out there.

Has anybody here looked or had the chance to see what Verizon FIOS is offering and the quality?

http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/channel+lineup/channel+lineup.htm

http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/channel+lineup/channel+lineup.htm

So basically the answer is at least 6 more cable HD channels (more for some areas that have less HD channels than what I currently have, Fulerton for example, sorry dagware) and an unknown number of extra broadcast HD channels.

Now how about the quality? Maybe someone has seen it at a friends house?

So basically the answer is at least 6 more cable HD channels (more for some areas that have less HD channels than what I currently have, Fulerton for example, sorry dagware) and an unknown number of extra broadcast HD channels.

Now how about the quality? Maybe someone has seen it at a friends house?
After some more searching, the FIOS hardware thread has some good information. Folks seem the think the quality of SD and HD surpasses that of cable and satellite.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=621323

Ever since Time Warner took over i have lost KABC-DT wich used to be on quam channel 102-2 on my LG DVR.I have done several scans but can not find it anymore.I receive the other stations fine (NBC 94-1,KCET 100-2,FOX 100-3 and CBS 101-1).I know it is on the cable because i can receive it on my cable card equipped Sony DVR on channel 907.Did they start scrambling KABC-DT?That would be illegal would't it?If someone knows the new quam channel number please post it so i can try it manually.Also is there any news regarding the NFL network?It was supposed to be turned off on the 3rd of September but is still working today.

Clock is Ticking for NFL Network
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 9/1/2006 2:48:00 PM

Time Warner has set Sept. 15 as the cut-off date for the NFL Network on the systems it recently acquired from Comcast and Adelphia.

It does not carry the network--the two are in a carriage battle--and had pulled it off those systems when it took them over Aug. 1. The NFL Net complained to the FCC, which made Time Warner put the network back on, saying it had not provided the requisite 30-days notice and that not having them on would hurt the NFL Net more that putting them back on would hurt Time Warner.

Time Warner soon after began providing notification to subs that it would pull the net. By midweek, Time Warner had not decided whether or how it would pull the systems--all at once or staggering them according to when they had first started informing subs and thus triggered the 30-day clock.

It has now decided to pull them on Sept. 15 if there is still no deal.

NFL Net spokesman Seth Palansky told B&C that the network has reached out to Time Warner about leaving the network on those systems while they try to hammer out a carriage deal, and said that Time Warner has provided "positive" feedback.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA6368257

Has TWC written a firmware update so one can use HDMI with an AVR Receiver? (I have the Denon 2807). I have no idea who to bug at TW.

Have any of you had success with a different HD box?

I'm relocating to Santa Clarita from Burbank, and leaving Charter (with Moxi).... someone mentioned that they got a Moxi as a new TWC HD DVR subscriber.... is that what they're shipping as standard units now?

If so, I'm going to have to seriously rethink this. It works... sorta... but I'm not at all happy about it. I'd much rather just hold out for a Series 3 TiVo and/or wait the year until I move into a house (we're on the one year till purchase plan...) and go back to DirecTV.

Man I miss DirecTV.....

High-Def Goes National on Fox Sports Net
By Glen Dickson -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/31/2006 6:02:00 PM

Fox Sports Net has announced that it will now offer national HD telecasts in addition to its existing local and regional HDTV efforts, broadcasting 15 of its 23 national telecasts of Big 12 and Pac-10 college football games in 720p high-def. The games will be available on FSN HD, which can be seen nationally on DirecTV and on leading cable operators throughout the country.

FSN regional sports networks already offer 475 HD telecasts and over 1,425 hours of HDTV annually, featuring dozens of NBA, MLB, and NHL teams.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6367904.html

eriv16, not that i like to nit-pick, but during the olympics you said that Universal HD was temporary and that it would be dropped after the olympics to make room for ESPN2HD, any word on when/if we'll be seeing ESPN2HD? I don't feel like driving down to playa del rey just to watch the LSU-Az St game in HD

Anyone notice how "trimmed down" the On Demand selection is now? Aside from the Premium Channels, the other free channels are all down to minimal amount of programming. It seems every channel I select, states there is no programming available.

Comcast was pretty good in that respect, offering quite a bit of free stuff, but so far, TWC is a bust in this area. Maybe it's just part of the transiition, but waiting until Nov for decent selection in this area is bad news.

Anyone notice how "trimmed down" the On Demand selection is now? Aside from the Premium Channels, the other free channels are all down to minimal amount of programming. It seems every channel I select, states there is no programming available.

Comcast was pretty good in that respect, offering quite a bit of free stuff, but so far, TWC is a bust in this area. Maybe it's just part of the transiition, but waiting until Nov for decent selection in this area is bad news.

Adelphia had WAY MORE free VOD than TW is currently offering. The movie section alone has been devastated, not to mention the rest! Not sure what TW is thinking, but it's not gonna be free.

Is anyone receiving the Giants / Reds game on ESPN-HD? It's only on the SD channel in Hermosa Beach.

My friend in Beverlywood has newly installed TWCable with the Motorola BMC 6416III dvr. Does anyone else have that box? Motorola site doesn't even have instructions on that box. Anyway, I got it working and I gave her the 6412 instructions which are similar. Her HD lineup is, CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, KTLA (I don't get that in HD in Encino!), PBS, TNT, Disc, INHD1&2, ESPN & ESPN2, HBO, Show, Starz, Cinemax. No Fox Sports HD, No HNnet & HDNet Movies.

Who else is getting KTLA in HD? I assume no one is former adelphia land.

Later this week, I'm going to hook up dvr to HK645 receiver via HDMI, and then HKreceiver out HDMI to Sony TV input for HDMI. I hope this will work on both video and digital audio and that changing channels won't produce the delayed handshake that I get using my Moxi DVI into the Sony TV DVI input.

My friend in Beverlywood has newly installed TWCable with the Motorola BMC 6416III dvr. Does anyone else have that box? Motorola site doesn't even have instructions on that box. Anyway, I got it working and I gave her the 6412 instructions which are similar. Her HD lineup is, CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, KTLA (I don't get that in HD in Encino!), PBS, TNT, Disc, INHD1&2, ESPN & ESPN2, HBO, Show, Starz, Cinemax. No Fox Sports HD, No HNnet & HDNet Movies.

Who else is getting KTLA in HD? I assume no one is former adelphia land.

Later this week, I'm going to hook up dvr to HK645 receiver via HDMI, and then HKreceiver out HDMI to Sony TV input for HDMI. I hope this will work on both video and digital audio and that changing channels won't produce the delayed handshake that I get using my Moxi DVI into the Sony TV DVI input.


The 6416III is the same as the 6412III, except it has a 160 gb drive as opposed to the 120Gb one in the 6412 (obviously the suffix 12=120 and 16=160).

I'm in Hollywood (formerly Comcast) and I do have KTLA in HD (although it's not related, it would be ironic not to since I'm just a few blocks from the KTLA studio). I have the same HD line-up as your friend except for ESPN2.

There are some issues with HDMI switching via a receiver (or probably any active switch). The Motorola firmware version 12.35 might fix it. This thread discusses it: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=649941

Ever since Time Warner took over i have lost KABC-DT wich used to be on quam channel 102-2 on my LG DVR.I have done several scans but can not find it anymore.I receive the other stations fine (NBC 94-1,KCET 100-2,FOX 100-3 and CBS 101-1).I know it is on the cable because i can receive it on my cable card equipped Sony DVR on channel 907.Did they start scrambling KABC-DT?That would be illegal would't it?If someone knows the new quam channel number please post it so i can try it manually.Also is there any news regarding the NFL network?It was supposed to be turned off on the 3rd of September but is still working today.

Hey Alain Delon was one of my favourite actors growing up, so you must have been borne in Europe somewhere. :)

Anyway dunno if you've resolved this yet but, I'm in zip code 90025 Santa Monica/ West LA and I'm getting KABC-HD on Time Warner Cable on channel 102.2. I have a Sony KDSR50XBR1 with built in QAM tuner so no cable boxen in my setup just straight feed.

HTH Rudy

[QUOTE=learninghd]The 6416III is the same as the 6412III, except it has a 160 gb drive as opposed to the 120Gb one in the 6412 (obviously the suffix 12=120 and 16=160).

I figured it worked the same, so I downloaded the dvr instruction guide for her, but the remote control is different from the one in the guide. And I cannot figure out how to program it to turn on the receiver and turn off everything at the same time. Also, this box, unlike my Moxi, can turn off. Is it necessary to turn it off?

[QUOTE=learninghd]The 6416III is the same as the 6412III, except it has a 160 gb drive as opposed to the 120Gb one in the 6412 (obviously the suffix 12=120 and 16=160).

I figured it worked the same, so I downloaded the dvr instruction guide for her, but the remote control is different from the one in the guide. And I cannot figure out how to program it to turn on the receiver and turn off everything at the same time. Also, this box, unlike my Moxi, can turn off. Is it necessary to turn it off?

Not sure about the remote, but the Wiki page might have some info (especially on codes to try): http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR.

It is best to leave the 6412/16 on, as it has some issues when turning off and on (and it's never completely off unless you unplug it). It seems many people do not use the "All on" button on the remote precisely because there isn't an easy way for it to turn off/on other devices while keeping the cable box always on.

Thank you for the wiki page. I can't seem to find any instructions on how to eliminate certain channels from ever appearing on the 6416 dvr. For example, I don't speak Spanish or Korean, so I'll like to eliminate those channels from the program guide. It appears there's no way to do that, and that the i-guide just wants you to select your "favorites" and surf through that list. I'd rather not go to favorites every time. Any advice.

Gotta say: since I'm tinkering with my friend's 6416, so far I find my Moxi dvr to be much easier to use.

Its seems to me that all of the HD channels are starting to suffer from to much bandwidth! Fast moving scenes and bright flashes ,produce more macroblocking than ever IMHO. What is the point of having HD if you have to put up with downrezzed channels? This really chaps my hide, considering the amount of money we pay out to TW for HD. Eriv I've read on the forums here that I'm not the only one seeing this. More of us need to let TW know that we don't want HDLite for the amount of hard earned dough we shell out every month! Blasst

A'F'n-Men!!!
I'm pretty sure almost half of the SD channels TW carries are virtually unwatched, we need to drop the analog bs, go all digital and get rid of some of the completely useless channels, plus it's not as much an issue of bandwidth as they'd have you believe; like when i was shouting about carrying the UCLA-UTAH football game off of FSN HD, and someone said it was a bandwidth issue, but the game was still on in HD, even though nobody at TW had a clue about it!!! FIOS will be the way to go, i'll miss the baseball in INHD, but won't miss BS TW service

Its seems to me that all of the HD channels are starting to suffer from to much bandwidth! Fast moving scenes and bright flashes ,produce more macroblocking than ever IMHO. What is the point of having HD if you have to put up with downrezzed channels? This really chaps my hide, considering the amount of money we pay out to TW for HD. Eriv I've read on the forums here that I'm not the only one seeing this. More of us need to let TW know that we don't want HDLite for the amount of hard earned dough we shell out every month! Blasst
I've been noticing this for quite a while, and it hasn't been just HD. All of my channels (HD, SD, analog, digital) have been behaving this way for quite a while. I've had multiple technicians out to verify I'm not crazy. They've measured signal strength (right in the middle of the kill zone - not too strong, not too weak), and they've swapped boxes, all to no avail. And it occurs on both my HD box downstairs, as well as my SD box upstairs.

I can't wait for FIOS.

Its seems to me that all of the HD channels are starting to suffer from to much bandwidth! Fast moving scenes and bright flashes ,produce more macroblocking than ever IMHO. What is the point of having HD if you have to put up with downrezzed channels? This really chaps my hide, considering the amount of money we pay out to TW for HD. Eriv I've read on the forums here that I'm not the only one seeing this. More of us need to let TW know that we don't want HDLite for the amount of hard earned dough we shell out every month! Blasst

The Miami-Steeler game last night looked so terrible that I called my brother-in-law, who has DirectTV, to find out if it was KNBC's fault. He said it looked terrific on his system. So it appears that what you say is probably accurate and that it's a TWC problem.

Game looked good to me on TWC in Encino. What's FIOS?

Game looked good to me on TWC in Encino. What's FIOS?

Google it. ;)

The Miami-Steeler game last night looked so terrible that I called my brother-in-law, who has DirectTV, to find out if it was KNBC's fault. He said it looked terrific on his system. So it appears that what you say is probably accurate and that it's a TWC problem.
Mine looked crappy via TWC, but it looked pretty crappy from my OTA ant too, i didn't bother to check the signal strength, maybe it was some kind of NBC4 problem, that didn't affect D* somehow, doesnt matter the game itself was terrible too, after pepper fell apart in the 4th i wanted to see joey porter motion like he was using a pepper grinder!!!

Mine looked crappy via TWC, but it looked pretty crappy from my OTA ant too, i didn't bother to check the signal strength, maybe it was some kind of NBC4 problem, that didn't affect D* somehow, doesnt matter the game itself was terrible too, after pepper fell apart in the 4th i wanted to see joey porter motion like he was using a pepper grinder!!!

Could it be all the damn splitting KNBC does to the signal? Is anybody watching RawNews?? :eek:

Blasst, we have not touched or reduced the BW we assigned to the HD channel since we lauched these services. Some channels have reduced thier Hd resolutions on thier own because they opted to multiplex other services in thier assigned spectrum (e.g. music channels, local weather feeds etc.). There is nothing we can do about that, also, I want to clarify something, i only speak for the former Comcast areas, as it is now I dont have any information about the ther other areas in the new TW system. This may change in the future.

Speaking of TW anybody else having a massive but not total outage. For me (West LA) a whole bunch of chnnels in the mid range above 13 are gone.

FIOS:
What a laugh I got when I saw that this service that some of you are waiting for is from Verizon -- the same company that provides my terrible cell phone service and keeps me on hold for ever when I call. Good luck to you on that.

Verizon is pretty chitty, and very hit or miss (mostly miss) on customer service, but the concept of a fiber into your house is the probably the most practical way to get a ton more bandwidth in the short to mid-future

Game looked good to me on TWC in Encino. What's FIOS?


No need to google it, I can afford the 10 seconds to give you the link!

http://www.verizonfios.com/

-Beefshank

No need to google it, I can afford the 10 seconds to give you the link!

http://www.verizonfios.com/

-Beefshank

Thanks for the fish...

Who is getting FOX Sports HD? All I get is no data available on channel 1110 in Hermosa Beach.

Blasst, we have not touched or reduced the BW we assigned to the HD channel since we lauched these services. Some channels have reduced thier Hd resolutions on thier own because they opted to multiplex other services in thier assigned spectrum (e.g. music channels, local weather feeds etc.). There is nothing we can do about that, also, I want to clarify something, i only speak for the former Comcast areas, as it is now I dont have any information about the ther other areas in the new TW system. This may change in the future. Eriv, thanks for following this forum. I don't know how much it will help. but could you please do all you can in your position to let the powers that be, know that we are paying $$$$ every month, and we want top quality performance!! I guess it has become a pet peeve of mine about all of the macroblocking etc. We spend all this money on new HD sets and HT gear, only to have these types of issues. So, there is a way you can help. Tell the providers that they need to keep their HD channels up to resolution, since your customers (us), deserve and are paying for top quality, not downrezzing. As more people get HD service, more of them will see what is happening, and wonder why they shelled out the bucks for these issues. Time will tell.

I just got my Dvico Fusion 5 RT Gold for fb season, but I do NOT get Fox HD! I did the autoscan of digital channels over my cable connection (now TWC, former Adelphia in Buena Park), and I get ABC (71.1), NBC (4.1), and CBS (2.1). 1035 is Fox "digital" but it's HD! :(

Also,
Eriv? If you have the ability, could you check on timing for cutting those of us who use digital out of the analog stream? That is going to help us enormously in the long run--pipe wise.

Thanks!

I am new to the forum. Is there any reason to purchase an off-air antenna from DirecTV when they install the dish. I will have the HD Receiver. I live in Santa Monica,CA and the local channels are in HD. Indoor antenna is another option. I live in an apartment. Thanks.

I am new to the forum. Is there any reason to purchase an off-air antenna from DirecTV when they install the dish. I will have the HD Receiver. I live in Santa Monica,CA and the local channels are in HD. Indoor antenna is another option. I live in an apartment. Thanks.

You want the antenna so atleast a few of your channels wont be HD-lite.

You want the antenna so atleast a few of your channels wont be HD-lite.

Thanks valuepac, what do you mean by "HD-lite"? I see you also live in Santa Monica. Who is your provider? Is getting an off-air antenna from DTV different than using your own antenna (it would be indoor since I rent). Do you know how the DTV off-air antenna is hooked up? DTV says the antenna is not necessary since local channels are already in HD. Is the antenna a separate feed? If the DTV goes dark will the antenna kick in? Will it sometimes provide an improved picture? Appreciate your thoughts.

Hi TD12

Questions about Time Warner Cable Los Angeles and surrounding communities are welcome here.

The best place to ask questions about over the air (ota) reception is Los Angeles, CA - OTA (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8391612#post8391612)
and questions about Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) including DirecTV and Dish in Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA - DBS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8350855#post8350855)

Thanks valuepac, what do you mean by "HD-lite"? I see you also live in Santa Monica. Who is your provider? Is getting an off-air antenna from DTV different than using your own antenna (it would be indoor since I rent). Do you know how the DTV off-air antenna is hooked up? DTV says the antenna is not necessary since local channels are already in HD. Is the antenna a separate feed? If the DTV goes dark will the antenna kick in? Will it sometimes provide an improved picture? Appreciate your thoughts.

TD I live in 90025, WLA/SM area, in an apartment and we have a feed into our apartments from a rooftop antenna. So I would suggest that you investigate this first.

Second go to http://www.zap2it.com and check your local listings to see what over the air HD channels are available in our area. Then go to DTV web site and see which of these channels they in fact carry. This will let you know what channels an antenna will give you. For example I have TW cable and the only PBS HD channel that they carry is KCET even though KOCE and KLCS are available.

Getting an antenna from DTV is no different than having your own. Although with DTV you only get what they give you whereas on your own you can pick which antenna to buy.

There are several ways to hook the external antenna and the satellite dish, which way the installer chooses you will see when she (or he) comes and does the install.

The satellite signal and antenna signal are two separate things so they will work independantly. So yes if one goes out the other one should still work.

If you do end up reading this thread, which is quite beneficial, you will notice that many people feel that a given channel over the air looks better than it does over a subscribed service. The reason they give for this is that the subscribed services compress, or otherwise alter, the transmission, whereas over the air it is in its complete form. This maybe what valuepac meant as HD-Lite, although I'm not sure.
For me personally this does not appear to be the case, at least as best as my eyes can tell. Comapring KCET on TW trasmission and over the air, the TW picture looks better less grainy. Now my rooftop antenna is not very good although I'm not yet sure if that has an impact on PQ or not.

Good Luck to you and I hope this was helpful.
Apologies to bgooch if any of this was OT.

Rudy

Hi TD12

Questions about Time Warner Cable Los Angeles and surrounding communities are welcome here.

The best place to ask questions about over the air (ota) reception is Los Angeles, CA - OTA
and questions about Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) including DirecTV and Dish in Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA - DBS

bgooch, thank you very much for the links. Sorry if my post was off topic.

TD I live in 90025, WLA/SM area, in an apartment and we have a feed into our apartments from a rooftop antenna. So I would suggest that you investigate this first.

Second go to zap2it and check your local listings to see what over the air HD channels are available in our area. Then go to DTV web site and see which of these channels they in fact carry. This will let you know what channels an antenna will give you. For example I have TW cable and the only PBS HD channel that they carry is KCET even though KOCE and KLCS are available.

Getting an antenna from DTV is no different than having your own. Although with DTV you only get what they give you whereas on your own you can pick which antenna to buy.

There are several ways to hook the external antenna and the satellite dish, which way the installer chooses you will see when she (or he) comes and does the install.

The satellite signal and antenna signal are two separate things so they will work independantly. So yes if one goes out the other one should still work.

If you do end up reading this thread, which is quite beneficial, you will notice that many people feel that a given channel over the air looks better than it does over a subscribed service. The reason they give for this is that the subscribed services compress, or otherwise alter, the transmission, whereas over the air it is in its complete form. This maybe what valuepac meant as HD-Lite, although I'm not sure.
For me personally this does not appear to be the case, at least as best as my eyes can tell. Comapring KCET on TW trasmission and over the air, the TW picture looks better less grainy. Now my rooftop antenna is not very good although I'm not yet sure if that has an impact on PQ or not.

Good Luck to you and I hope this was helpful.
Apologies to bgooch if any of this was OT.

Rudy


Thanks for the reply and zap url. Since the cost is only $50, I might as well get the antenna too. Who knows what channels will come in the future. Also, if DTV goes dark, hopefully the antenna will be a backup.

Who is getting FOX Sports HD? All I get is no data available on channel 1110 in Hermosa Beach.


So I spoke w/ a TWC engineer today and he told me that as a former Adelphia subscriber I wont be able to get FSNHD along w/ a few other local channels (KTLA-HD and KCOP-HD) until the local head in rebuild is complete and they are able to change the line up to resemble the rest of the TWC Empire.

So I spoke w/ a TWC engineer today and he told me that as a former Adelphia subscriber I wont be able to get FSNHD along w/ a few other local channels (KTLA-HD and KCOP-HD) until the local head in rebuild is complete and they are able to change the line up to resemble the rest of the TWC Empire.

that doesn't sound good........it might be a long time before we adelphia people will even see anything then. :(

that doesn't sound good........it might be a long time before we adelphia people will even see anything then. :(

Well, if TWC does say goodbye to NFL HD channel, maybe we will see one of those channels this fall.

So I spoke w/ a TWC engineer today and he told me that as a former Adelphia subscriber I wont be able to get FSNHD along w/ a few other local channels (KTLA-HD and KCOP-HD) until the local head in rebuild is complete and they are able to change the line up to resemble the rest of the TWC Empire.

I don't suppose he gave you any sort of ETA?

Rudy

Re: the rebuild.

Each city will get the head in rebuild at different times. He couldn't tell me when exactly cuz he said he didin't know. He speculated before the end of the year. As far as droping NFL and getting another station would be unlikely cuz I think we get all the nationals that other TWC's get it's just the extra locals that we can't get until the rebuild. I also asked about SA boxes and he said we'll get them w/ the rebuild.

Since my “contact” at Adelphia has flown the coop after the TWC thingee became effective (along with around 10 million in cash), I am just a poor average Joe dealing with my local cable company.

Luckily, my Moxi 9022D is still functioning superbly but, given the fact that the dang think is ON all the time, I’m sure it will bite the dust eventually.

So, for those unaware,(and bidding their time like moi) the following item is now available and apparently shipping:

Tivo Series 3 HD Cable Box

Re: the rebuild.

Each city will get the head in rebuild at different times. He couldn't tell me when exactly cuz he said he didin't know. He speculated before the end of the year. As far as droping NFL and getting another station would be unlikely cuz I think we get all the nationals that other TWC's get it's just the extra locals that we can't get until the rebuild. I also asked about SA boxes and he said we'll get them w/ the rebuild.

Thanks JW. If it really happens before the end of the year, which is withing 3 - 4 months, then that would be fantastic, I think. FSW carries Kings hockey which will be huge in HD. I'm more of a hockey fan than a football fan anyway. KTLA and KCOP is a good bonus also. However, I truly hope KOCE and KLCS make it into the mix as well. KOCE-HD looks stunning in 1080i on my Sony KDSR50XBR1, that is whenever I'm able to tune it in with my OTA. Here's hoping.

Rudy

Yes, Hockey is my #1 priority too!

NFL Network is launching its own Web site I want my NFL Network (http://www.iwantmynflnetwork.com/) to counter Time Warner claims.

NFL Network Set to Be Cut
By Larry Stewart, Times Staff Writer
September 14, 2006
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nflnetwork14sep14,1,6154750.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Time Warner Cable has informed its customers that it will be dropping NFL Network on Friday if an agreement cannot be reached. The two entities are in the midst of a bitter dispute, and an agreement appears unlikely.

Time Warner, which serves 14.5 million cable homes nationally and 2 million in greater Los Angeles, wants to put NFL Network on an optional sports tier that would cost customers about $120 a year.

NFL Network wants to be a part of the cable company's basic service, thus reaching more viewers and being able to charge more for advertising.

NFL Network spokesman Seth Palansky said Wednesday that the league-owned network charges cable and satellite distributors fees that amount to only "the price of a movie ticket" per customer a year.

Palansky said he couldn't confirm the exact cost, but it is believed to be about $8.50 per customer a year, or 70 cents a month.

"We're uncomfortable with a cable company using our content to charge NFL fans $120 a year," Palansky said. "As a basic channel, the cost of carrying NFL Network could be recouped through shared advertising and it would not have to be passed along to customers."

According to Time Warner spokesman Keith Cocozza, NFL Network has increased its fees to distributors 250% since adding an eight-game, late-season package of Thursday and Saturday NFL games. The first game is Thanksgiving night.

Time Warner spokeswoman Patti Rockenwagner said if the company drops NFL Network, "Our customers will still be able to watch more than 100 NFL games on NBC, CBS, Fox and ESPN, and all in high definition."

Time Warner originally removed NFL Network from its channel lineup Aug. 1, but two days later was ordered by the Federal Communications Commission to restore it for 30 days. Time Warner later agreed to extend that period for 15 more days, and that extension ends Friday.

With network to go dark, NFL responds
Business First of Buffalo - 2:18 PM EDT Thursday
by James Fink, Business First
http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2006/09/11/daily34.html?t=printable

The NFL Network is putting up its own goal-line stance against Time Warner Cable.

Time Warner, which until taking over systems from Adelphia Communications Corp. never carried the NFL Network, will be dropping the league-sponsored channel Friday from several markets.

For football fans in three National Football League cities -- Buffalo, Cleveland and Dallas -- that means the NFL Network will leave their respective cable systems. The three markets account for about 1.3 million subscribers of Time Warner's 14.5 million subscribers, including 330,000 subscribers in the immediate Buffalo Niagara region.

Time Warner officials said the primary reason they are dropping the NFL Network is cost. They say the NFL Network wants to charge Time Warner $137 million annually to carry the network -- a 250 percent increase from what Adelphia had been paying. That translates to a per subscriber cost increase of 80 cents to $1 per month, officials say.

"The last thing we want to do is to come into a new community and drop things, but we have no choice," said Keith Cocozza, Time Warner spokesman.

The NFL Network, however, claims otherwise.

They say Time Warner could still carry the NFL Network for perhaps another four years under the terms of the existing Adelphia contract.

"There would be no fees or increases attached to that," said Seth Palansky, NFL Network communications director.

Not so, Cocozza said.

"Time Warner has no agreement with the NFL Network and we are unable to carry them," Cocozza said.

Time Warner initially dropped the NFL Network in its acquired Adelphia markets, including Buffalo, in early August. But, after the NFL Network lodged a complaint with the Federal Communications Commission, Time Warner reinstated the programming for 30 days, with that period expiring on Sept. 15 unless a new agreement is reached.

"We would like to carry the NFL Network, but we have to be responsible to the entire community and that means both the sports fan and non-sports fan," Cocozza said.

Palansky said the NFL Network also takes issue with comments made during a Wednesday press conference where Time Warner officials said there has been little response to their plan to drop the network.

Palansky said just between Aug. 15 and Sept. 3, the NFL Network received 22,000 calls from Buffalo area viewers.

"I consider those pretty significant," he said.

The NFL Network and Time Warner both say they are willing to negotiate, but no new sessions have been scheduled.

The NFL Network will be carrying eight late-season games, beginning on Thanksgiving night. Unless a deal is struck, local Time Warner cable viewers will not be able to see those games.

"People forget, the only reason we exist is to offer this channel and its programming to football fans," Palansky said.

Since my “contact” at Adelphia has flown the coop after the TWC thingee became effective (along with around 10 million in cash), I am just a poor average Joe dealing with my local cable company.

Luckily, my Moxi 9022D is still functioning superbly but, given the fact that the dang think is ON all the time, I’m sure it will bite the dust eventually.

So, for those unaware,(and bidding their time like moi) the following item is now available and apparently shipping:

Tivo Series 3 HD Cable Box


Welcome to the Average Joe Club, Penton! BTW For now Circuit City has the deal on the TiVo 3, check the various deals boards...

Hey my guide data only goes till Saturday..it hasn't gotten any more info at all..anyone else has that problem?

I'm in a former Comcast area..

Hey guys.

I just got a Series 3 TiVo and I was interested in just getting HD locals.

I guess I fall under the jurisdiction of the Santa Monica TWC office.

How much would HD Locals run broken up into the different packages. I can't figure it out from the transition website.

Here's what I think I need.

Just locals.
2 CableCards.


Do they offer Just Locals?

I have a DirecTV HDTiVo for HBO, Showtime and the other HD channels. Plus Santa Monica TWC doesn't have too many HD channels.

What's the least that'll run?

Thanks,
Eddie

Hey my guide data only goes till Saturday..it hasn't gotten any more info at all..anyone else has that problem?

I'm in a former Comcast area..

I am in former Adelphia area with a Moxi box. This happened to me last week. They sent a tech out who first noticed that there wasn't enough signal coming to the box per his little meter. After swapping out a 3way splitter and replacing it with a 2way sufficient for the two rooms we have televisions in he was able to get an appropriate amount of signal. However the box was still unable to pull the guide. He determined that the box wasn't even connecting to the network and not able to pull an ip from the office. After an hour and several re-provisions, he finally just swapped out the box which solved the problem immediately.

I am in former Adelphia area with a Moxi box. This happened to me last week. They sent a tech out who first noticed that there wasn't enough signal coming to the box per his little meter. After swapping out a 3way splitter and replacing it with a 2way sufficient for the two rooms we have televisions in he was able to get an appropriate amount of signal. However the box was still unable to pull the guide. He determined that the box wasn't even connecting to the network and not able to pull an ip from the office. After an hour and several re-provisions, he finally just swapped out the box which solved the problem immediately.

hmm
that could be it, they just installed a cable modem and used a splitter

Hey guys.

I just got a Series 3 TiVo and I was interested in just getting HD locals.

I guess I fall under the jurisdiction of the Santa Monica TWC office.

How much would HD Locals run broken up into the different packages. I can't figure it out from the transition website.

Here's what I think I need.

Just locals.
2 CableCards.


Do they offer Just Locals?

I have a DirecTV HDTiVo for HBO, Showtime and the other HD channels. Plus Santa Monica TWC doesn't have too many HD channels.

What's the least that'll run?

Thanks,
Eddie

Not quite sure if it has changed, but at least under Adelphia, locals were included for free as long as you had the "Digital" package. No special HD package required.

Hey guys.

I just got a Series 3 TiVo and I was interested in just getting HD locals.

I guess I fall under the jurisdiction of the Santa Monica TWC office.

How much would HD Locals run broken up into the different packages. I can't figure it out from the transition website.

Here's what I think I need.

Just locals.
2 CableCards.


Do they offer Just Locals?

I have a DirecTV HDTiVo for HBO, Showtime and the other HD channels. Plus Santa Monica TWC doesn't have too many HD channels.

What's the least that'll run?

Thanks,
Eddie

Not exactly sure but here's a "guesstimate"
Basic service is about $30, the first cablecard is $1.75 the second is $4.15 plus taxes etc. Then you pay TiVo their monthly or subscription. Cool device eh?
The crappy Moxi is about $17 total add on the $30. There's a reason I'm not switching even though the Moxi is a POS, but its menus ARE in HD! I'm not as critical of the Moxi as I was, if they get the external HDD working I'll shut up completely, but TW will probably switch them out before that happens and we'll have a new Moto box to piss on.

Hobbs Details Adelphia Integration
By Mike Farrell 9/12/2006 9:54:00 PM

Time Warner Cable chief operating officer Landel Hobbs laid out in more detail the second-largest cable operator’s plans to integrate its recently acquired Adelphia Communications systems, adding that it will cost about $650 million over the next two or three years.

At the Merrill Lynch Media & Entertainment Conference Tuesday, Hobbs said Time Warner has to upgrade about 20,000 miles of Adelphia plant, the largest amount being in the Carolinas, with about 6,000 miles plant to be upgraded.

Also included in the upgrade are billing-system and provisioning-system conversions for high-speed-Internet service, which should be completed by mid-2007. Hobbs said Time Warner has to change out roughly 20 provisioning systems.

He said those upgrades are beginning already, adding that Time Warner plans to start the launch of digital-phone service in most of the new Adelphia markets by the end of this year -- the Northeast will begin the rollout in early 2007.

Hobbs said the phone rollout is critical to being able to offer the triple play. As part of the upgrade, Time Warner will also have to integrate Adelphia’s several different billing systems to its own, he added.

“If you start thinking through the items that will really impact our ability to execute on this, it’s upgrades, billing-system conversions, provisioning conversions and when are you going to get the products in the field,” Hobbs said.

Aside from the upgrade, Hobbs said the Adelphia integration has four other priorities:

• Customer care: All customer calls were rerouted to Time Warner on day one of the deal being closed.

• Programming: primarily standardizing channel lineups. With the exception of Dallas and Buffalo, N.Y. -- the two stand-alone systems Time Warner received in the Adelphia deal -- most of the other systems are “being integrated or plugged into existing Time Warner Cable markets,” Hobbs said.

• Human resources: Time Warner brought on 12,000 additional employees as a result of the merger.

• Marketing: Hobbs said Time Warner has already spent about $8 million “out of the box” on marketing, dropped 4 million mail pieces and rebranded the systems. He added that marketing initiatives are “working smoothly.”

http://www.multichannel.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleid=CA6371206

Not exactly sure but here's a "guesstimate"
Basic service is about $30, the first cablecard is $1.75 the second is $4.15 plus taxes etc. Then you pay TiVo their monthly or subscription. Cool device eh?
The crappy Moxi is about $17 total add on the $30. There's a reason I'm not switching even though the Moxi is a POS, but its menus ARE in HD! I'm not as critical of the Moxi as I was, if they get the external HDD working I'll shut up completely, but TW will probably switch them out before that happens and we'll have a new Moto box to piss on.


So I take it there's no "Just Locals" Package.
I did connect the cable and it looks like I get Basic Cable. I was also able to tune the HD locals but since the Series 3 can't map them, I get no guide data.

Off Air, I get KTLA and NBC. I used to get ABC, so maybe I might try re-aiming the antenna.

I can get CBS and FOX from DirecTV. That should take care of most conflicts.

I bought the S3 yesterday, so I haven't had much time to play with it. The interface on the S3 looks alot better than the DirecTV HDTiVo. It's definitely been updated. It's also faster than the older one. But I currently have only 2 channels in my "Channels I Receive" List, so I'm sure that speeds it up.

I might switch my HD package from DirecTV to TWC if they ever upgrade the Santa Monica system.

Just had my Moxi installed today by Time Warner in Santa Monica. I immediately called to get ESPN-HD added to my lineup of HD channels, and was told that ESPN-HD is TEMPORARILY NOT AVAILABLE in Southern California to people who don't already have it.

The customer service rep's supervisor said the big Time Warner Channel Realignment is happening on October 17th at which time it will be available again.

They did NOT know whether there would be an additional charge for ESPN-HD at that point or if they were going to offer it for free. She also said they would be sending out all new channel lineups to all subscribers around that date.

Good News: Channel realignment on Oct 17th is sooner than I thought it would happen, and there may be some good things that come out of it.

Bad News: I just got a new 46" Sony XBR3 and can't watch Monday Night Football in HD until late October!!!! Really sucky.

On another note, the first Moxi box I had installed today locked up and completely shut down within 2 hours of use. I had it replaced 4 hours later, working like a charm. The installer said they are now offering the Time Warner DVR box with larger capacity than the Moxi (he said 24 hours of HD instead of 12) which you can request by calling customer service. I have no experience with the Time Warner DVR, but certainly would like more recording space until the TiVo series 3 drops in price...

Anyone else tried to get ESPN-HD recently??

Anyone have the Time Warner DVR?

Thanks for your feedback!

I just called CS. I'm in the San Gabriel Valley area. They said I should call back in about a month and they may be ready to convert my area. They said it would be a Motorola DCT6416.

They say it has 80 hours SD and 20 hours HD. Compared to the Moxi BMC9012 which I have now and they say has 55 hours SD and 8 to 11 of HD. Does that sound right?

I just called CS. I'm in the San Gabriel Valley area. They said I should call back in about a month and they may be ready to convert my area. They said it would be a Motorola DCT6416.

They say it has 80 hours SD and 20 hours HD. Compared to the Moxi BMC9012 which I have now and they say has 55 hours SD and 8 to 11 of HD. Does that sound right?

11 is real optomistic for an 80G Moxi, 8 is about right.

So I take it there's no "Just Locals" Package.
I did connect the cable and it looks like I get Basic Cable. I was also able to tune the HD locals but since the Series 3 can't map them, I get no guide data.

Off Air, I get KTLA and NBC. I used to get ABC, so maybe I might try re-aiming the antenna.

I can get CBS and FOX from DirecTV. That should take care of most conflicts.

I bought the S3 yesterday, so I haven't had much time to play with it. The interface on the S3 looks alot better than the DirecTV HDTiVo. It's definitely been updated. It's also faster than the older one. But I currently have only 2 channels in my "Channels I Receive" List, so I'm sure that speeds it up.

I might switch my HD package from DirecTV to TWC if they ever upgrade the Santa Monica system.


Here's my setup:

I pay about $12/month for broadcast basic. This gets me "just locals", including HD locals. On top of that, I pay $5/month for the HD package which gets me ESPN/ESPN2, INHD/2, HDNet/Movies, and, until today, NFL HD. I am supposed to get Discovery HD and TNT HD as well, but don't for some reason. Plus, I pay all the Moxi/DVR fees.

As an aside, does anyone have any idea why I don't receive Discovery HD and TNT HD? Is this something I should bring up with customer service, or is this to be expected?

-R

Here's my setup:

I pay about $12/month for broadcast basic. This gets me "just locals", including HD locals. On top of that, I pay $5/month for the HD package which gets me ESPN/ESPN2, INHD/2, HDNet/Movies, and, until today, NFL HD. I am supposed to get Discovery HD and TNT HD as well, but don't for some reason. Plus, I pay all the Moxi/DVR fees.

As an aside, does anyone have any idea why I don't receive Discovery HD and TNT HD? Is this something I should bring up with customer service, or is this to be expected?

-R

Where are you? I get all those in 90025.

Okay, we are starting the channel realignment next month, this realignment also includes the digital simulcast (the majority of the analog channels are going to be replaced with digital services) Also, we are implementing new packages (this is going to start on 9/18) the new HDTV package includes

ESPNHD
ESPN2HD (n/a yet in former Comcast areas)
HD NET (ditto)
HD NET MOVIES (see above)
indemand HD
Universal HD (n/a yet)

So as a former Comcast subscriber, nothing new for us?


the following services are going to be in the clear:
KCBS HD
KNBC HD
KTLA HD
KABC HD
KTTV HD
KCET HD
The following services are going to be in std. cable:
TNT HD
Discovery HD

What does "in the clear" mean?

Okay, we are starting the channel realignment next month, this realignment also includes the digital simulcast (the majority of the analog channels are going to be replaced with digital services) Also, we are implementing new packages (this is going to start on 9/18) the new HDTV package includes

ESPNHD
ESPN2HD (n/a yet in former Comcast areas)
HD NET (ditto)
HD NET MOVIES (see above)
indemand HD
Universal HD (n/a yet)

the following services are going to be in the clear:
KCBS HD
KNBC HD
KTLA HD
KABC HD
KTTV HD
KCET HD
The following services are going to be in std. cable:
TNT HD
Discovery HD

Hoping for a little more info:

What about inHD and inHD2 (which I currently have)?
What about the premiums (HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime) in HD
Will we also get Starz HD?

Is indemandHD the pay per view movies in HD?

So as a former Comcast subscriber, nothing new for us?



What does "in the clear" mean?

QAM tuners will get them with no box!

Way to go!

What about inHD and inHD2 (which I currently have)?I believe "indemand HD" means INHD.

Looks like INHD2 may go away.

Don't see any mention of MHD (MTV in HDTV), which is available at least on Comcast in Chicago (though was not yet available on Comcast here in LA before the changeover).


What about the premiums (HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime) in HD
Will we also get Starz HD?These are available for no extra charge along with the premium packages you pay for. I would guess nothing would change here. I currently have "Platinum" (from Comcast) and very rarely watch the content on MAXHD and StarzHD, firstly because their list of movies is not great and secondly because the number of intersections of (1) movies I want to see and (2) TrueHDTV is very very small.

Don't see any mention of the addition of TMCHD, not that I really care.


Is indemandHD the pay per view movies in HD?As stated above, I think this is INHD. May be wrong here.

I think the "On Demand" section is where PPV HD movies may be found along with other On Demand free and non-free presentations. Again, may be wrong here.


Most disappointing to me is the lineup change on 9/18 which seems to provide ZERO to current Comcast customers!!! HDNET/M won't be available, nor will UHD. Nor will MHD. Nor will ESPN2HD.

If all of these truly new additions are "not available yet" then why blow the trumpet now? What propaganda!

So what's the "change" for us Comcast folks???? Nothing, it appears, at least right now.

No, I think it means InDemand-HD, it was promised in an earlier mailing.

Also, Starz-HD charges extra for their HD option. Yeah right, I might ever pay extra for that.

Also, Starz-HD charges extra for their HD option. Yeah right, I might ever pay extra for that.Didn't know that, as I got it as part of the "Platinum" (i.e. everything) group price.

But I agree... dreadful selection, and often not even true HD.

Didn't know that, as I got it as part of the "Platinum" (i.e. everything) group price.

But I agree... dreadful selection, and often not even true HD.

I read that Starz charges an aditional $1.50 to get the in demand channel HD or not. WTF are they thinking?

Here's my setup:

I pay about $12/month for broadcast basic. This gets me "just locals", including HD locals. On top of that, I pay $5/month for the HD package which gets me ESPN/ESPN2, INHD/2, HDNet/Movies, and, until today, NFL HD. I am supposed to get Discovery HD and TNT HD as well, but don't for some reason. Plus, I pay all the Moxi/DVR fees.

As an aside, does anyone have any idea why I don't receive Discovery HD and TNT HD? Is this something I should bring up with customer service, or is this to be expected?

-R

Thanks.

I'll give them a call on monday.

Thanks.

I'll give them a call on monday.

Of course, the HD lineup looks it will change, but not that significantly. The bottom line is, you should be able to get the locals (including HD) for a minimum price.

-R

For what it’s worth, the CS Rep at Time Warner said that they’ll be phasing out the Moxi for the Motorola DCT6416 in Santa Monica, CA... I’ll assume that’s valid for entire Southern California...

CVB

Cable Company Is a Late Arrival to Dodgers Game
Larry Stewart
September 18, 2006

Some Time Warner Cable subscribers in the Los Angeles area were deprived of watching the start of Sunday's Dodgers-Padres game.

Instead of getting FSN Prime Ticket's telecast, they got FSN Northwest's coverage of the Seattle Mariners' game at Kansas City until the problem was rectified in the second inning.

Complaints received by The Times came from Time Warner Cable subscribers located in the western and northern parts of Los Angeles County.

According to Jennifer Johnson, a spokesperson for FSN West and FSN Prime Ticket, a technician at FSN's network management center in Houston solved the problem via satellite by rebooting Time Warner's receiving equipment.

Time Warner Cable subscriber Dixon Ridgway of the Palms area said after several tries he got through to someone in customer service and was told the game was not being shown because it wasn't a sellout. But Time Warner spokeswoman Patti Rockenwagner acknowledged that was incorrect information.

More data was needed to determine what caused the problem, the timing of which was especially bad for Time Warner Cable.

The company had already angered many Southern California sports fans by cutting off NFL Network at midnight Friday.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodtv18sep18,1,2959432.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Time For Time Warner To Unhook Cable
SEPTEMBER 25, 2006
NEWS & INSIGHTS By Tom Lowry
There are obstacles, but CEO Parsons has a spin-off high on his to-do list

After four years and four months as CEO of Time Warner, Richard D. Parsons is running out of options to solve his most vexing problem: share-price paralysis. He has settled federal accounting investigations, cut debt, bought back stock, turned AOL into a free service, and Sept. 12 announced the sale of 18 of its magazines. None of these moves has pushed shares above $19. Now he's readying to play one of his remaining cards: a cable initial public offering. By spinning off part of the media giant's robust cable unit, Parsons is hoping not only to create a new currency to buy more cable but also to juice the parent company -- and his own legacy in the process.

Investors like the idea, especially now that cable is popular again, having scored successes with their bundles of TV, broadband, and phone services against a diminished threat from satellite and telecoms. Time Warner Cable, subsumed as it is in the sluggish parent company, could unleash its true value with some independence, the thinking goes.

So why not plunge in while the market is so hot? After all, Parsons first mentioned a possible spin-off four long years ago. But nothing is ever easy at Time Warner, which once again looks to be snakebitten. The problem: The company has been entangled in the messy four-year Adelphia Communications Corp. (ADELQ ) bankruptcy. Time Warner and Comcast Corp. (CMCSA ) divvied up Adelphia's well-placed systems in a sale that closed in July, but now creditors are bogged down in squabbles, holding up Parsons' cable agenda.

The original plan was to issue shares representing 16% of the cable business to Adelphia creditors as part of Time Warner's deal payment. That would create a ready market for the unit, whose operating profits rose 16% in the first half of the year, to $1.96 billion. The Adelphia sale is complete, but creditors still disagree over how to split up the proceeds, and they do not appear to be close to a final agreement to exit bankruptcy. Yet if the creditors were to give a thumbs-up to a plan, with a bankruptcy judge's approval, Time Warner Cable could go public as soon as 30 days later.

Wall Street, including media-loving private-equity buyers, would like to see faster action -- and a bigger share than a mere 16% of the business. "That percentage may not be enough" to see big gains in the cable stock, or Time Warner's stock, either, says Michael Nathanson, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. "I would like see them put out more."

ICAHN CALLING
It's not hard to see why investors covet the nation's No. 2 cable operator. If you value Time Warner Cable at $3,700 per subscriber (using No. 1 Comcast as a benchmark), multiplied by its 13.5 million subs, the unit would be worth $49.9 billion. Subtract the estimated debt of $16 billion, and a 16% float has a market value of $5.4 billion. Parsons insists 16% is the right amount to offer at the outset but has said he would consider selling more later.

With so much at stake, Parsons has also begun to prepare an alternative to the dicey Adelphia plan. Time Warner is in the process of filing a registration plan with the Securities & Exchange Commission to sell shares via a standard IPO. On this path, it could take three months to win SEC approval. But by then, who knows how Wall Street will feel about cable stocks? Time Warner officials declined to comment, citing restrictions due to the planned share registration.

Meanwhile, billionaire breakup advocate Carl C. Icahn is once again amassing Time Warner shares, putting more pressure on Parsons to act. The magazine sale is already under way. By the time it actually happens, a separate Time Warner Cable stock issue could be just another move in a new, more urgent game plan.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_39/b4002055.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_technology

NFL Network has been removed.

If you go to the channel a note is posted on the screen explaining why.

For those of you eagerly awaiting the replacement of your Moxi's with the Motorola DCT 6412 or 6416 III, I am still tinkering with my friend's new unit, and I much prefer the Moxi interface. I can't figure out any way to make the channels disappear that are never used -- like foreign language channels. This means that you have to use the favorites list every time you want to scroll through the channels, which is a pain. And the menu screen has ads on it. And scrolling is slow. If TWC changes out my Moxi, then ok, but I'm not going to request it.

Double the storage is too difficult for me to pass up. Perhaps if I had actually used one like you have, I may have a different opinion.

Where is your friend that he has one already?

Beverlywood

NFL Network Is Counting on Fans to Pay a Lot for a Little
September 19, 2006
TV Sports
By RICHARD SANDOMIR, The New York Times

The NFL Network, the television progeny of a league that knows better than all others how to mint money, is overreaching in its tough-minded campaign to prove its indispensability to fans in the cable TV universe.

The network is overselling the value of its eight-game Thursday-and-Saturday schedule, which will not begin until Thanksgiving. It is clearly in love with what it is offering. You can tell by what it is charging.

Basic arithmetic shows that at the rate it is demanding, at least 70 cents a subscriber every month, the NFL Network would amass $756 million in revenue if it were fully distributed to 90 million cable homes.

That is an astonishingly steep value to place on eight games — which will be simulcast on local stations in the teams’ markets — and an array of very good studio, news and archival programs. Still, that’s 357 days without games.

Until awarding itself the matchups, the network charged cable operators 20 cents a subscriber. It is now available in 41 million homes, two-thirds of them DirecTV and Dish Network satellite customers.

It takes serious guts to place a huge valuation on a handful of games shown over six weeks, without playoffs, but the league has seen how its ESPN games dominate cable by attracting about 8 percent or 9 percent of the cable world, then selling advertising off that rabid fan base.

Assuming full cable penetration, the $756 million valuation exceeds NBC, Fox, CBS or DirecTV’s average annual payments to the N.F.L., but it is less than ESPN’s $1.1 billion fee.

•A critical difference is that all but the NFL Network carry full-season schedules. NBC has 17 games and playoffs. CBS and Fox each carry, regionally or nationally, more than 100 games divvied into 25 or 26 Sunday afternoon singleheader and doubleheader windows, in addition to the playoffs. ESPN has 17 games, but no playoff games or Super Bowls, which CBS, Fox and NBC will rotate through 2011.

DirecTV’s Sunday Ticket satellite plan carries all 219 Sunday afternoon games to about 1.5 million subscribers for an annual payment to the league of $700 million. The N.F.L. has always sold the package exclusively to DirecTV, leaving it out of the reach of cable operators, who have long coveted it.

Having cast its lot with DirecTV, the league wants cable operators to swallow a large fee, which would inevitably find its way to consumers.

“To suggest that anybody’s season will be ruined for missing eight games is ludicrous,” said Fred Dressler, the executive vice president of Time Warner Cable, which is feuding with the NFL Network.

Cable operators are required to put the NFL Network on expanded basic, where the widest swath of customers exists. One key exception is Comcast, with 24 million subscribers the largest cable operator; it signed a deal three years ago that allowed it to put the NFL Network on a digital tier available to only a third of its customers — even if the eight games were added.

Still, there is a lively dispute over whether Comcast will eventually put the channel on a sports tier that will reduce its viewership to those willing to pay $5 or $6 a month to see it, NBA TV, CSTV and other networks.

Sports tiers have been little-viewed flops. For the NFL Network, being on a pay-per-view tier would be a terrifying financial prospect, slashing revenue and exposing it to the habits of subscribers who might buy the tier for two months, then drop it for the rest of the year.

“No one will ever have the right to do that,” said Seth Palansky, a network spokesman. Steve Bornstein, its president, was unavailable for comment.

Bornstein and owners spurned a Comcast bid worth at least $400 million to carry the eight games on OLN (newly rechristened Versus). It appears clear that Bornstein is betting that he can use the N.F.L.’s power to extract well more than that from cable, satellite and telephone customers. “Our value is commensurate with the programming we’re offering,” Palansky said.

In its tiff with Time Warner, the NFL Network is battling through an ad campaign designed to stoke the anger of cable customers. Time Warner is responding with a Web site geared to undermine the league’s position.

•Unable to strike a deal with the league, Time Warner last week stripped the channel from systems in Buffalo, Cleveland, Dallas and Los Angeles, systems that were recently acquired from Adelphia.

In one newspaper ad, the network cited Time Warner and Cablevision as holdouts and claimed quite hyperbolically that without it “you’ll miss the best games and the run to the playoffs.” The claim borders on deception, given how many games can be seen elsewhere and that there is no way to know how important they will be. Still, the tactics on all sides are predictable.

Dressler, of Time Warner, said, “The NFL Network keeps the pressure on because it believes we will ultimately end up charging all our customers to satisfy the few who want these games.”

E-mail: sportsbiz@nytimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/19/sports/football/19sandomir.html?pagewanted=print

For those of you eagerly awaiting the replacement of your Moxi's with the Motorola DCT 6412 or 6416 III, I am still tinkering with my friend's new unit, and I much prefer the Moxi interface. I can't figure out any way to make the channels disappear that are never used -- like foreign language channels. This means that you have to use the favorites list every time you want to scroll through the channels, which is a pain.I'm a Comcast convert, and have been using the 6412 for almost two years now... with only minor complaints.

But I don't see how setting up your favorites (i.e. hiding the channels you don't watch, by adding only the channels you do watch as "favorites") and then using the "FAVORITES" item on the Main Menu to present a grid that shows only your favorites is unacceptable? Isn't that what is really meant by hiding channels you don't watch in the Guide grid... by presenting only those channels you do watch in the Guide grid? And isn't that exactly what Main Menu -> Favorites is??

I've seen the Moxi interface up at a friend's in Oxnard who was on Adelphia, and quite frankly I'd NEVER choose it over the 6412 interface.

Time Warner has updated their website to say when they are going to change our tv lineups (by city). Looks like most of the westside of LA is Nov 7th

http://www.timewarnerla.com/channellineups/dsp_chOutput.cfm?luType=A

Oh and Off topic, it looks like adelphia to roadrunner email address will get the @ roadrunner.com email. Comcast to roadrunner email address will get the @ca.rr.com

http://www.twcusoon.com/sites/la/Faq.aspx#

I'm looking at the new lineup with all the colorful dots in the lineup and legend. What fun, could they have made it any more difficult to read? There had to be any easier more friendly way to do this.

Time Warner has updated their website to say when they are going to change our tv lineups (by city). Looks like most of the westside of LA is Nov 7th

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/channellineups/

Oh and Off topic, it looks like adelphia to roadrunner email address will get the @ roadrunner.com email. Comcast to roadrunner email address will get the @ca.rr.com

http://www.twcusoon.com/sites/la/Faq.aspx#

Thanks Myke.

BTW, as far as I can tell, no new HD channels for me (wilshire).

So much for KTLA being in HD :(

Thanks Myke.

BTW, as far as I can tell, no new HD channels for me (wilshire).

You already have Universal?

HD SPECIAL EVENTS 413
UNIVERSAL HD 419
HD PAY PER VIEW 431

Will be new for me.

EDIT: Didn't see In Demand Sports HD 733

You already have Universal?

Those darn dots! I didn't see that (or HDNET). Ok so now I'm a bit happier. :)

I'm having a devil of a time printing this. Anyone getting a clear full version? (Not the tiny one)

Santa Monica looks promising. Alot better than the current offering.
Does this mean the Santa Monica system got upgraded?

I notice SM gets INHD but not INHD2. Which one is the better channel?


Any idea if TWC will be doing digital simulcast anytime soon?

Looks like I gain Starz HD, Universal HD, HD Special Events, HD Pay Per View and inDemand Sports HD (which oddly doesn't show up under the "HD" category) on October 26. I wonder what this will do to the Moxi. Will it be able to find the programs I have set to record? I will be out of town when the switchover happens and don't get back until the 30th. Will recordings automatically switch from say 911 (current KTTV location) to 411. Somehow, I highly doubt that.

I'm having a devil of a time printing this. Anyone getting a clear full version? (Not the tiny one)

No, since it just went up a couple of hours ago, hopefully someone will fix it. I'm just looking at it on the computer blown up to 125%.

Looks like I gain Starz HD, Universal HD, HD Special Events, HD Pay Per View and inDemand Sports HD (which oddly doesn't show up under the "HD" category) on October 26. I wonder what this will do to the Moxi. Will it be able to find the programs I have set to record? I will be out of town when the switchover happens and don't get back until the 30th. Will recordings automatically switch from say 911 (current KTTV location) to 411. Somehow, I highly doubt that.

I've seen Moxi deal with time changes, channel changes will be interesting! Where's MoxiGut when we need him!? :(

Interesting...15 HSN is gone. And for all the hoowee talk about grouping channels, CNN is still off in left field. Way to go TW!

Never mind, gotta check that alpha listing first.

Looks like I'm losing ESPN2 HD -- not a huge loss though. Looking forward to seeing what's on Universal and HD Special Events.

Way to go,Time Warner :mad: in Hollywood, i'm LOOSING HDNET,HD NET Movies & ESPN2!

Questions re Motorola DCT 6412 III or 6416 III:
I tried connecting the HDMI out into the Harmon Kardon HDMI in, and then out of the HK and into the TV. I got a picture for about 5 seconds, and then a message popped up on the screen saying something I can't remember but basically that the set top does not recognize the repeater blah blah blah. Then the screen went solid green, though the sound still worked. Does anyone know whether it's the DVR that doesn't have the HDMI activitated? Or could it be it just doesn't want to go through the receiver but instead directly to the tv (which I couldn't do because the HDMI connector was too short)? And is there a forum here for that DVR?

:( Still no KOCE-HD and no other KLCS channels, streams 1 through 4. Also the Dish Network offers the Food Network and National Geographic Channel in HD, among others. But not TWC. How come?

Rudy

Santa Monica looks promising. Alot better than the current offering.
Does this mean the Santa Monica system got upgraded?

I notice SM gets INHD but not INHD2. Which one is the better channel?


Any idea if TWC will be doing digital simulcast anytime soon?


same for camarillo, it says there will be new HD channels plus they are going to simulcast in digital but this can only happen if they upgraded the system so I'm not holding my breath. It will be a very welcome surprise but I anticipate calling in and getting the same bs PR line of "... its in the works and should be completed in the next few months..."

Awfully strange that Playa Del Rey gets KTLA-HD but Santa Monica, Marina Del Rey, West Los Angeles and Los Angeles do not. Any insight into this??

Also, pretty disappointing that Santa Monica won't get ESPN2-HD. Sucky in general that I can't get ESPN-HD until November. Guess I won't be watching much Monday Night Football.....

:(

I am excited about getting Universal/Cinemax/HDNet, etc.

...

some people are losing ESPN2HD, some people are keeping ESPN2HD, doesn't look like anyone (like me for instance) is going to get ESPN2HD added....all i have to say is..
Boooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

some people are losing ESPN2HD, some people are keeping ESPN2HD, doesn't look like anyone (like me for instance) is going to get ESPN2HD added....all i have to say is..
Boooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Santa Clarita seems like an very unique situation.

Old Comcast customers will have KTLA HD. Versus old TW customers who will have Universal HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies.

However, neither will have ESPN2 HD.

We need to be able to pick our cable provider. This is just silly. Being forced to choose between satellite and cable just doesn't cut it.

We need to be able to pick our cable provider. This is just silly. Being forced to choose between satellite and cable just doesn't cut it.
To be fair, the market has been opened up for cable co's, teleco's and satellite to compete, but the teleco's have not gotten into the game yet.

The problem I have with cable is not having an affordable al-a-cart pricing plan to order individual channels.

There is no need to be fair. Every year the price goes up, the services added are minimal. Al-a-cart pricing is just one example of what competition would do to this industry. THe cable companies have been monopolistic for far too long.

I'm having a devil of a time printing this. Anyone getting a clear full version? (Not the tiny one)I agree... ridiculous way to publish a new channel card lineup, making it very difficult to view and print. I'm sure when they actually print and mail out these new cards they will be similarly tiny.

Nevertheless, here is an enlarged version for viewing and printing (of the MDR new lineup) that might be of value to Marina Del Rey former Comcast subscribers.

Looking at the West LA upcoming list, it appears there are two versions: one for former Comcast subscribers and one for former Adelphia subscribers. The Adelphia HD list is the same as the MDR group shown below. For the Comcast subscribers, there is a different HD lineup which I'm showing below separately.

NOTE: it appears that MDR and WLA Adelphia->TWC subscribers will NOT be getting KTLA-HD (CW). The story is reversed for WLA Comcast->TWC subscribers. Sorry. (Fortunately, I get KTLA-HD OTA so I'm not seriously affected. Also, the only show I watch on KTLA, ANTM, is not in HD so it's again not serious for me.)

Finally, it looks like iN Demand Sports HD on channel 733 is available for everyone. I'm assuming this is HD Sports PPV.

Also, there IS an "HD Plus Tier" for the MDR and WLA Adelphia->TWC subscribers. This will include UHD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, ESPNHD, ESPN2HD, INHD and INHD2. I'm pissed that this will be an extra charge (no idea on cost yet), but what can I say. I'm just glad to have access to these channels. Perhaps it will be folded into the charge I already pay for the 6412 HD-DVR, or maybe just a small additional charge.

And there is still no TMC-HD.

NOTE: at first, I did not see the very slight color difference between the "primary free HD channels" (shown in red, and now reduced to only TNT-HD and Disc-HD) and the "HD Plus Tier" (shown in almost-red pink, with all the other non-premium HD). In fact, I only noticed it when I was viewing it in large form on my computer screen. I really didn't see it on my printout because the color dots are small and the colors are VERY VERY CLOSE. This reminds me of the underhanded weasely advertising approach taken by Sprint years ago when they were first moving into the LA area... they had a "service areas" (shown in yellow) and "upcoming service areas" (shown in a near-yellow GOLD) distinction in the map of the city they were providing in their glossy mailer. Well it was essentially impossible to see that there were two different colors in the printed copy, clearly suggesting to the casual reader that the entire city of LA was currently being served by Sprint, whereas in truth if you could detect the color differences you would see that exactly the opposite was true... most of LA was down the road in the future for Sprint service.

This red/pink trick for the new "HD Plus Tier" (which will be an extra charge, of course) reminds me of the Sprint trick. You'll find out when you call in to ask why you're not getting those channels... "oh, they're in a different tier. Didn't you see the colors in the channel lineup card we sent out???"


(1) New MDR channel lineup (http://www.stormbirds.org/~darryl/TWC_MDR_Upcoming.JPG)

(2) New MDR channels organized by type - subset 1 (http://www.stormbirds.org/~darryl/TWC_MDR_Upcoming_1.JPG)

(3) New MDR channels organized by type - subset 2 (http://www.stormbirds.org/~darryl/TWC_MDR_Upcoming_2.JPG)

(4) Color codes for new MDR channel lineup (http://www.stormbirds.org/~darryl/TWC_MDR_Upcoming_Color_Codes.JPG)

(5) New WLA Comcast->TWC HD channels (http://www.stormbirds.org/~darryl/TWC_WLA_Upcoming_Comcast_HD.JPG)

(6) New MDR and WLA Adelphia->TWC HD channels (http://www.stormbirds.org/~darryl/TWC_MDR_Upcoming_HD.JPG)

I agree... ridiculous way to publish a new channel card lineup, making it very difficult to view and print. I'm sure when they actually print and mail out these new cards they will be similarly tiny.


It's formatted for 25.8" x 8.5" paper, so when they send it out, it should be fine.

I'm in Beverly Hills. I just got this Moto 6416 III and hate it. I returned my Moxi box for this one b/c the hard drive was much bigger for HD shows. The Moxi interface sucked compared to Tivo, but is pure genius compared to this new box.

Major issues for me:

1. It has no real menu system like Tivo or the Moxi box. It takes forever to find a show to record. No good search features to find the shows to record.

2. I'm a golf fanatic, so I want a season pass for "PGA golf" and "golf" - just like I had on my Tivo and my Moxi box. These shows do not come up with season passes on this box! WTF??

3. The remote control is a joke. I have a black remote that is AWFUL. I understand that some areas of the country have a silver remote that is more like the Moxi remote. Maybe I can get it switched.

4. It took about 20 hours to load the guide data! (Moxi took about 10 minutes)

5. Very annoying ads on the guide.

6. Can't list just favorite channels. Ugh!

7. Woke up today to no sound or picture. Did a search on AVS and found out this happens all the time with this box. The fix was to play something on the DVR, then go to Live TV and it was back. Nice glitch. What If I'm not around to do that? Does my DVR record a black screen? What a POS!!

I've only had it one day and the $800 Tivo is looking more and more like a value!

7. Woke up today to no sound or picture. Did a search on AVS and found out this happens all the time with this box. The fix was to play something on the DVR, then go to Live TV and it was back. Nice glitch. What If I'm not around to do that? Does my DVR record a black screen? What a POS!!


Is this only with HDMI?

1. It has no real menu system like Tivo or the Moxi box. It takes forever to find a show to record. No good search features to find the shows to record.Perhaps this is the black remote's fault, or maybe you're just not used to things yet and your anger and frustration are ruling over common sense.

I'm not familiar with the black remote (since I have a silver remote with my 6412-II), and I've never actually seen a 6416, so maybe I'm really offbase here in commenting, but I do know that the Motorola DVR is very different from the MOXI and Tivo boxes (having friends and family who've had both) and I've needed to soothe and guide them after they moved into a Comcast/TWC area and got a Motorola box. I'm guessing the black remote has similar (but perhaps not identical) buttons

So maybe I can help... and hope that the 6416 and 6412 are very very similar in their interface though the black and silver remotes may be quite different. Again, I'm sure much of your agony and anger is because you are unfamiliar with the general procedures for how this DVR and its user interface, and the radical difference in the black remote from what you're used to.


(1) There IS a menu system.

Push the MENU button on the remote (surely there is a MENU button). Then just push the MENU button a second time. Or, more inconveniently, you can navigate the cursor on what displays from the first push all the way to the left where there is an icon of "home" and press ENTER.

Obviously this is a pain and just pressing MENU button twice is obviously the easiest and quickest technique to use. But in either case, you will now be looking at the "Main Menu".


(2) There IS a way to get a Guide/Grid on your screen so that you can navigate (and set DVR recordings) either vertically through channel lists (either singly or in groups of 4/5 depending on if there is an ad showing or not) or horizontally 1/2 hour at a time (including 24-hour jumps forward or backward).

Once looking at the Main Menu (from steps above), you can navigate the cursor to either (1) HDTV (for HD channels only, which is all I look at), (2) Listings by Channel (to show all listings for a given channel in chronological order vertically, and you scroll horizontally through sequential channel numbers), (3) Listings by Time (to show listings for all channels vertically, and you scroll horizontally through 1/2 hour time slots, using the "B" button to skip backward 24 hours or the "C" button to skip forward 24 hours), or (4) Listings for My Favorite Channels (shows a subset grid of JUST channels you have designated as "your favorites", in channel number order vertically and 1/2 hour time slots horizontally). Once the cursor is positioned press OK/Select and you'll get the next level interface as appropriate.

In all cases, you can navigate the cursor up/down/left/right one row or column at a time using the arrow cursor buttons. You can also use the page up/down buttons to scroll the display a complete "page" at a time vertically. When 1/2-hour time slots are displayed across the top, use the "B" and "C" buttons to go back and forth an entire day (24-hours) at a time.


(3) There IS a way to get JUST FAVORITE CHANNELS displayed in your Guide/Grid so that you can navigate only through them for browsing and/or setting DVR recordings.

The first time you select "My Favorite Channels" (i.e. if no "favorites" are currently programmed), or perhaps the first time you push the FAV button on the remote, since no favorite channels are currently selected you'll be presented with a channel number/title list with.

Then just scroll through the list and when you come to a channel you want to designate as a "favorite" just navigate the cursor to that line and push OK/Select. A little heart will appear on that line. Pushing OK/Select again turns the heart off. The OK/Select is obviously a toggle. Continue through the whole list until you're done. You will be able to add/delete favorites later using a different method, even if you don't get this very first try complete or correct.

Once you have set at least one "favorite", the Main Menu "My Favorite Channels" function will now work as expected, and your displayed Guide/Grid will ONLY show your favorites. Vertical and horizontal navigation through that grid now works just as "all channels" works, and you can push OK/Select on any grid cell in the future to initiate the DVR Recording dialog.

And once you have set at least one "favorite", a little hear appears any time that channel is selected. It shows up when you push the INFO button to display information on program you're watching, and it shows up as you scroll through the Guide/Gird.

And once you have set at least one "favorite", if you push INFO for ANY channel you'll also see a heart displayed on the icons at the bottom. You can navigate to that heart and push OK/Select to toggle the "favorites" state of that channel. If it is already a favorite you are un-favoriting it. If it is not a favorite you are marking it as a favorite.

NOTE: Once you have set at least one "favorite" you will never again be presented with that initial first-time-only list of all channels, which allows you to set favorites in a mass data-entry process. From now on, you will have to manually add/delete favorites one channel at a time, by navigating to that channel somehow (either on grid, or by selecting it) and pushing the INFO button to get the lower row of icons with the heart. Then navigate to the heart and push the OK/Select button to toggle the "favorite" state of that channel.

NOTE: The FAV button does not present the Guide/Grid of favorites (as one might hope, for great user convenience). Instead, the FAV button sequentially tunes to next favorite channel from where you currently are tuned. You will be selecting the next favorite for viewing, whatever that next favorite channel is. Obviously this is worthless (at least to me)! So your real approach to favorites must be (1) press MENU, and then MENU a second time, to get the Main Menu. The cursor will be on the last main menu item selected, and if not "My Favorite Channels" then you have to navigate to it, and then press OK/Select. Now you're looking at a Guide/Grid of your favorite channels with the currently selected (or nearest and higher if you weren't currently tuned to a favorite channel) favorite channel shown on the top line.


(4) There IS a way to set up recordings for all occurrences of a "series" (i.e. "season pass") as long as all occurrences are under a single given show title (e.g. "Boston Legal"). Unfortunately there is no way to set up a "category series" recording for "all GOLF matches".

First, if you have navigated on the Guide/Grid and positioned the cursor to some occurrence of your show for which you'd like to set up a "series" recording just push OK/Select to enter the recording dialog. Then navigate to the red dot, which is the recording dialog and push OK/Select. Then navigate down to the bottom "create a series recording" item. Now set your options, if the defaults presented are not acceptable. When done, navigate down to the red dot to "record series with these options" and push OK/Select. There will be a delay, as the box checks your existing recordings for conflicts, and scans the 2-weeks of Guide information it has to pick up schedule date/times for your show. Eventually you'll get a "push OK/Select to confirm" and you push OK/Select. If conflicts occur you have no choice but to exit the entire dialog and resolve the conflict externally... perhaps by adjusting the conflicting series priority (to better take advantage of the two tuners in the DVR), or by deleting a problem single recording, or who knows how else you need to resolve things. But you WILL need to resolve things before you can establish a new series recording that otherwise would trigger a conflict between the two tuners or would require three tuners if you had them.

You will presumably have set the options for start/end time (to be a little earlier or later than the Guide-provided values), first run only or all occurrences, one channel only or all channels, how long to retain (either all, some most recent number, until you manually delete, etc.) and anything else that you're offered.

You can always go back later and modify these series recordings. Push MENU, and navigate to the "DVR" icon and push OK/Select. Navigate to "series priority" (which is also used to adjust recording conflicts and priorities if needed), and push OK/Select to see all of your previously programmed series recordings. Navigate USING THE UP/DOWN ARROW KEYS (not the page up/down keys) to your series and push OK/Select. You will be presented with information about your series recording and you should navigate the cursor over to the "wrench tool" icon and push OK/Select to modify your options if you want to.

NOTE: series priorities are changed by using the page up/down button after using the arrow up/down keys to navigate to the series you want to change. Once you navigate to the series you push page up/down to move it up or down in the list (i.e. adjusting its recording priority over all series below it in the list, as represented by its visual order in the list). Then navigate the cursor to the "check" and push OK/Select to accept the new arrangement.


(5) There IS a way to do a search for a program.

Get into the Main Menu (press MENU button twice), and navigate to Search. From there it should be obvious.

You can navigate to the A-Z Title Search item if you are looking for a particular show and know its title. Once you spell out the first few letters and see your show in the list below, press OK/Select to move down to the first item in the list, and then navigate down to your show's title. Now press OK/Select.

If your show is only one one channel, you can navigate to the red dot to begin the recording dialog. But if your show is on more than one channel (e.g. HD and non-HD flavors) then navigate over to the clock icon and push OK/Select to present a list of showtimes and channels. Navigate to the one you want and push OK/Select. You will now be back up one level where you just were, but the proper channel/time will have been chosen and you can now navigate to the red dot for the recording dialog.

If you just go right into the red dot recording dialog from this search process, you will be recording whatever is the first or only occurrence... which may not be HD, if that's of importance to you. That's why going to the clock icon is a good way to proceed, and should ALWAYS be the way you need to go for HD/non-HD content. choices.


There's probably lots more basic techniques and tricks you should/will learn as you get used to the new DVR you now have. But believe me, it's not a dog. It's just not a Tivo, and it's not a Moxi. It's a Motorola DCT6416.

"EXIT" exits anything from where you are and goes back to normal viewing. If you are doing something while watching a DVR recording, pressing EXIT will exit from that dialog and return you to DVR viewing. If you press EXIT a second time now, you'll effectively be pushing STOP and reverting back to live programming.

"LAST" leaves your current menu level, or position in some dialog, and moves up to the next higher level (or last step) you were at before you dropped down one level to where you currently are. If you are watching live programming, the "LAST" button is like a "jump" button which toggles you back to the last channel you were tuned to. Pushing "LAST" multiple times in a row (with no other channels tuned to in the interim) will bounce you back and forth between two channels.


Ask me more, and I will share. For example, on my silver remote the page down button also serves as a "15 second rewind". The "swap" button swaps between tuner 1 and tuner 2. I don't know about the black remote.

I've studied the list and realize that in the wacky mind of cable companies Encino is not Encino. The listing for Encino's current lineup is not mine, so I assume that part of Encino was already TW whereas I was in Adelphia land ("South of the Boulevard"). In TW vernacular, I live in the "East San Fernando Valley." Yippee. The listing for East SF Valley is exactly what I currently have. The listing for the future channel line up shows most of the channels in the same order (wifey will like that), and it shows I'm keeping ESPN2 HD (I was wrong about that in my prior post). Also, getting Universal HD, HD Special Events, HD Pay Per View, Starz HD, and InDemand Sports HD. All nice, but would have liked KTLA HD -- how hard could that be to provide?

It's formatted for 25.8" x 8.5" paper, so when they send it out, it should be fine.
I got the new lineup in the mail from TW today, there were two flyers. A generic one that showed the ESPN2HD and FSNHD logos, and the specific lineup with channel numbers for canoga park. Big f'ing suprise, my new channel lineup does not include ESPN2HD or FSNHD, i will enjoy waiting on hold to b*tch about this...why send someone a notice that they will get ESPN2HD and FSNHD, and include another notice basically saying that "Some people will get these channels, but you aren't one of the chosen people, go back to your cage!!!"

Quick google search:
Universal HD = Knight Rider every day -- isn't that the talking Firebird? Lineup looks awful.

HD Special Events = no info found

HD PPV = Imax movies and other movies that's already free on inhd or on HBO.

inDemand Sports HD = lots of nascar, not sure what the difference is between regular and

HD programming. So if I buy NBA season pass, how many games are in HD?

Solution: watch Sunrise Earth over and over and over again, and feel happy.

Quick google search:
Universal HD = Knight Rider every day -- isn't that the talking Firebird? Lineup looks awful.
Solution: watch Sunrise Earth over and over and over again, and feel happy.

Yeah it is a odd channel. Here is a snippit of a article a I read in February about Universal HD.
http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=9384

An odd entry in the HD market is Universal HD. The channel was launched as Bravo HD in 2004. But with no Bravo series actually shot in high definition, NBC Universal changed the network's name to Universal HD by year's end.

"Originally, we launched it to help to get our share of the HD space as a placeholder and as a marketing tool to help get Bravo launched in more homes," said Jeff Gaspin, president of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment. "Then when we merged with Universal we realized they had a wealth of more content to offer."

Today the network has a compilation of upconverted Universal titles such as "Knight Rider" and "The Equalizer," alongside two entries from the NBCU cable networks group-Sci Fi's "Battlestar Galactica" and USA's "Monk."

But I read somewhere recently that they will be adding better programing next year.

just called TW, they said i should get ESPN2HD, i asked what channel it would be on and they told me to call back on the october 18th (when the new lineup takes effect), which means either they are quite full of "it" or that i will actually get the channel and TW has the ability to create and execute a concise plan for product updates about as well as my one year old (my one year old is two steps from being the new chair of the board at HP)

DSperber, thanks very much for the informative reply. It was very helpful. I have a few follow-up questions, if you don't mind.

A few questions:

1. The black remote is definitely different than the one you have. Fiorst of all, there is no menu button at all. There is a guide button, which seems to do all of the things your menu button does. but it is not a good remote in that it is not ergonomically desgined, the buttons are tiny and there is no way I can operate it in the dark like my Moxi remote. If yours is more like the Moxi one, please let me know as I'd like to try to get mine switched. [Would you happen to have a link to a photo of it online? Is it the one that you see if you click on "view larger remote image" on this link: http://broadband.motorola.com/dvr/dct6412.asp ?]

2. The menu system that you descibe does exist. I just think it's not user friendly and less appealing (by far) than Tivo's or Moxi's. Further, portions of the Guide/Grid navigation system did not work on my DVR until today - particularly the HDTV guide. These things greatly ease my frustrations.

3. So are you saying that the way to get just favorite channels it to press MENU twice then navigate to My Favorite Channels, then press OK every single time you want to display favorites rather than every channel? If so, that's quite a lot of keystrokes compared to the automatic settings on Tivo and Moxi. Maybe I mis-read and there is a way to set that permanently so that every time you hit guide, it's automatically on favorites. Is that the case?

4. Recording all occurrences of a "series" (i.e. "season pass"). Using Tivo or Moxi, "PGA Golf" and "Golf" were show titles. They were on CBS, NBC, ESPN, ESPN 2, TNT and USA. For whatever reason, these shows are not under a single given show title using this box. :mad: This is my single biggest gripe.

5. I didn't say that there is no way to search for a program, I just said that it is tedious and not as easy as on Tivo or Moxi.

6. Regarding the "swap" button - what is the purpose of that? Is it only for when you're recording two shows at once and you want to watch the one that is not currently showing on your tv?

7. I changed one of the buttons to a 30 second skip and now I realize that I need that button. Do you know how to change it back? Which buttons would you recommend using for the 30 second skip, etc? Is there a button on your remote (or can you program a button) to skip to the end of a show/back to the beginning of a show?

Again, thanks very much for your help.

Why such a difference in programming from one community to the next? I notice the programming in all the surrounding communities from me is different than mine. They all have HDNET/HDNET Movies, and we don't have them at all. I thought part of the new channel lineups would be to add some uniformity, but this isn't the case at all. Now I have all these new channels numbers to learn and program, but we don't even get the same channels as friends down the road. As far as I can see, not one new channels is being added.

This is my 5th cable company in 10 years, and it's getting pretty old. I can't wait to get my notice that my email addresses will be changing soon. What a pain!

This is my 5th cable company in 10 years, and it's getting pretty old. I can't wait to get my notice that my email addresses will be changing soon. What a pain!


I long ago started using a forwarding service for my email. I've had many providers but one email name for the last 10 yeas or so. It originally was free "for life" but life ended with the dot-com crash so I pay $20/yr to maintain it. Well worth it. The service I started with was eventually swallowed by mail.com but it still works.

1. The black remote is definitely different than the one you have. Fiorst of all, there is no menu button at all. There is a guide button, which seems to do all of the things your menu button does. but it is not a good remote in that it is not ergonomically desgined, the buttons are tiny and there is no way I can operate it in the dark like my Moxi remote. If yours is more like the Moxi one, please let me know as I'd like to try to get mine switched. [Would you happen to have a link to a photo of it online? Is it the one that you see if you click on "view larger remote image" on this link: http://broadband.motorola.com/dvr/dct6412.asp ?] I don't follow... do you HAVE the black remote shown in the link you provide? That remote DOES have a MENU button (lower right of the star cluster of arrow keys, similar to where it is on my silver remote).

Or do you have some other black remote? If so, do you have a link to it?

The "silver remote" I have for my 6412 is the Comcast 1067A as shown on the left of these remotes (http://www.urcsupport.com/comcast). Note that there are two red buttons on the lower-left and lower-right of the circular cluster of arrow keys. The MENU button is the one to the lower-right.


2. The menu system that you descibe does exist. I just think it's not user friendly and less appealing (by far) than Tivo's or Moxi's. Further, portions of the Guide/Grid navigation system did not work on my DVR until today - particularly the HDTV guide. These things greatly ease my frustrations.I agree, that having to push multiple buttons or navigate through multiple menus to get where you really want to be is not terribly user-friendly. But you just get used to it with time, just like you get used to anything else with frequent usage.


3. So are you saying that the way to get just favorite channels it to press MENU twice then navigate to My Favorite Channels, then press OK every single time you want to display favorites rather than every channel?Yes. I'm afraid that's how you do it.

Of course whenever you press MENU twice you'll get the main menu with the cursor already positioned on the last item you had selected. So as long as you don't navigate off of My Favorite Channels, you'll really just be pressing MENU twice and then OK/Select once, and you'll be viewing the Favorites-only grid.

Obviously, there would have been a better choice for a single-click direct button to request this using the remote directly... namely the FAV button!!! But instead they decided there was some use for the sequential forward movement tuning through Favorite channels as a better use for FAV (which I disagree with), and now there's no way to change things.

Now with the silver remote we learned the way to program buttons for other alternative functions (e.g. 30-second skip forward), and also how to program multiple-function "macros" (as if you were pushing multiple buttons in succession). So you could program a button to correspond to MENU twice followed by OK/Select (assuming you were on My Favorite Channels, or HDTV, or wherever you meant this macro key to be for) so that you only need to press this one button and the multiple keystrokes would be performed by the "macro". Of course if you had the Main Menu somewhere else then the macro got you into that last chosen item but such was the price we paid for not having to manually push three keys. Anyway, I don't know how to program any other remote other than my silver remote.


If so, that's quite a lot of keystrokes compared to the automatic settings on Tivo and Moxi. Maybe I mis-read and there is a way to set that permanently so that every time you hit guide, it's automatically on favorites. Is that the case?Nope... you read me right. As I said, FAV would have been the obvious choice for a single-push key to go to Favorites grid, but apparently the geniuses at Motorola thought otherwise.


4. Recording all occurrences of a "series" (i.e. "season pass"). Using Tivo or Moxi, "PGA Golf" and "Golf" were show titles. They were on CBS, NBC, ESPN, ESPN 2, TNT and USA. For whatever reason, these shows are not under a single given show title using this box. :mad: This is my single biggest gripe.Sad, but true.

Also, if you specify "first run only" (implying no REPEAT) you're at the mercy of the TV Guide information, which must say NEW. If multiple showings of a program in a given week all say NEW (e.g. "encore" presentations of HBO and SHO series), then all of them will be scheduled for recording and you have to go to the DVR scheduled recordings for later in the week and UN-RECORD those occurrences. Or, you can just let them record and then delete them from My DVR list later.

But what's important is that DVR operation is triggered by TV Guide info, so be careful.


5. I didn't say that there is no way to search for a program, I just said that it is tedious and not as easy as on Tivo or Moxi.Agreed.


6. Regarding the "swap" button - what is the purpose of that? Is it only for when you're recording two shows at once and you want to watch the one that is not currently showing on your tv?Initially, when you first get the box, only the first tuner is active. The second tuner comes alive for the first time the first time it is needed... e.g. when you want to watch something while a recording of something else is going on. In this case, you will initially see REC on the display and if you press SWAP you will now see a channel number on the display (with the red dot to its upper-right, indicating that a recording is occurring on the other tuner). And now both tuners are active.

From that point on, both tuners will always be active... recording or not, tuned to the last selected channel for that tuner. And pressing SWAP will alternate what actually is displayed on your TV between the two tuners. If both tuners are recording, SWAP will reveal REC on the display for both... but the channel numbers will be different (as shown by the INFO button).

Of course even if both tuners are active and recording, you can still watch a third program from your previously recorded My DVR list. You just can't watch a third live program.


7. I changed one of the buttons to a 30 second skip and now I realize that I need that button. Do you know how to change it back? Which buttons would you recommend using for the 30 second skip, etc? Is there a button on your remote (or can you program a button) to skip to the end of a show/back to the beginning of a show?Well if you know how to program the 30-second skip, maybe it's the same programming method and code that I used for the silver remote. If you tell me what you did I will tell you if it's the same technique I used, in which case I can also tell you how to revert that key back to its "factory-assigned" purpose. Then you can program some other key to be the 30-second skip.

[Just in case your programming is the same as mine, here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6412716&&#post6412716) are the instructions for how to program the remote and also how to revert a key back to its factory purpose (follow the imbedded link to the true "recipe" post). Note that the original "recipe" is in the archive for 2005, so follow that dialog that the forum will present. Ok... I'll make your life easier. here (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5327687&&#post5327687) is the direct link to the 2005 archived "recipe".]

In my case, I used the FAV button on the silver remote for the 30-second skip. It is in a perfectly ergonomic location for operation in the dark, and I had no use for the silly factory-assigned function of scrolling forward sequentially through Favorite channels.

There is no function or button to skip to the end of a recorded program. But there is a way to return to the beginning of a recording... just push INFO and navigate over to the "restart from beginning" icon and push OK/Select.

And of course if you push STOP while playing a recording, a "bookmark" is stored for where you are. The next time you play that recording it will pick up right where you left off... unless you use that "restart from beginning" icon instead of the "resume" icon (which starts from the beginning of the recording the first time it is used).

I long ago started using a forwarding service for my email. I've had many providers but one email name for the last 10 yeas or so. It originally was free "for life" but life ended with the dot-com crash so I pay $20 to maintain it. Well worth it. The service I started with was eventually swallowed by mail.com but it still works.

The exact same story here joe. I think we were probably on the same service that got swallowed by mail.com. My only complaint with it is that the yearly charge comes thru from outside the country, in foreign currency, so the credit card companies charge a foreign exchange fee. That, and when I got the address, Earthlink hadn't made it big yet, but now, my "earthling.net" address confuses everyone and they assume I'm an idiot for mispelling my address :mad: With it, I've been able to keep the same email for 9 years, thru countless states and ISP's.

The exact same story here joe. I think we were probably on the same service that got swallowed by mail.com. My only complaint with it is that the yearly charge comes thru from outside the country, in foreign currency, so the credit card companies charge a foreign exchange fee. That, and when I got the address, Earthlink hadn't made it big yet, but now, my "earthling.net" address confuses everyone and they assume I'm an idiot for mispelling my address :mad: With it, I've been able to keep the same email for 9 years, thru countless states and ISP's.

One I have (I have 3 accounts) is @email.com and they usually say, "yes, I want your email address"? ;) Who's on first?

Thanks again, DSperber. I now follow everything that you said. I hope you're right that with time, the DVR will work smoothly when I get comnfortable with its operation. It just feels like a major step backward from the user-friendly Moxi. I was expecting it to be even more user-friendly because it's a newer box.

I don't have the black remote to which I linked. I have a completely different looking one. The black one I linked to and the one you sent to me are FAR superior to the one I have. The buttons on mine are small and not in good "ergonomic" spots. It's a real POS.

One last thing, if you would. I'm having an issue with the volume control. I've looked at the Wikipedia remote control programming link and still can't figure it out (thankfully, my remote works with the same commands as yours). It seems that I have two options (neither of which is good):

1. Remote will control volume of the DVR only. I don't want this (there is little volume control in this and the bars come up on screen).

2. Remote will control volume of the receiver (which is great), but it will automatically click over to controlling "Audio" on the cable remote so that every time I hit the volume, I have to re-hit "Cable" to do anything else on the remote.

What I'd like to do is #2 but without having to flip back to "Cable" every time I change the volume. Is this a true glitch or is there a workaround?

Again, than you for all of your help!

One last thing, if you would. I'm having an issue with the volume control. I've looked at the Wikipedia remote control programming link and still can't figure it out (thankfully, my remote works with the same commands as yours). It seems that I have two options (neither of which is good):

1. Remote will control volume of the DVR only. I don't want this (there is little volume control in this and the bars come up on screen).

2. Remote will control volume of the receiver (which is great), but it will automatically click over to controlling "Audio" on the cable remote so that every time I hit the volume, I have to re-hit "Cable" to do anything else on the remote.

What I'd like to do is #2 but without having to flip back to "Cable" every time I change the volume. Is this a true glitch or is there a workaround?Well, I fear that you are SOL with this new 6416. It probably has the same "improved software" as the 6412-III (which I just had the opportunity to work with at my sister's house).

Turns out the 6412-II (which I have) does NOT have any control over the volume output from the DVR. There is only an "auto-mute" state which occurs when the DVR is currently powered off and comes out of that sleep state to perform a scheduled recording. At that time it awakes in "mute" mode (don't ask me to justify it, though others will try to... unconvincingly, if you ask me) and if you should then walk up and want to watch something on the other tuner you've got a problem because there's no sound (since the DVR is in mute mode... on both tuners!).

Well this problem is addressed on the 6412-II (and 6412-III, where the same problem exists) by programming some button (I chose the "+" button in the PIP group at the bottom of the remote, since it was unused and a single-click button that was not tied to the mode of the remote as designated by first pushing either CABLE or TV at the top, but always had just one IR output no matter what the mode of the remote was) to be MUTE/UN-MUTE. This programming code is documented in my previously referenced posts, and many others have programmed this as it was necessary and vital but somehow overlooked by Motorola/Comcast out of the factory.

Actually, with the 6412 you can program the MUTE button to be preceded by either TV or CABLE and thus get the MUTE/UN-MUTE function for the DVR that way. But I objected to that because it really required two-buttons to guarantee the proper mode of the remote depending on whether you wanted to MUTE/UN-MUTE the TV or DVR. My method (using "+" for the DVR and MUTE locked always to the TV) seemed superior, allocating two different single-click keys for the two functions.

But there is NO volume control for the 6412-II DVR. Instead, its output is at a fixed "line level" and the VOLUME up/down rocker on the remote is always tied to the TV. Period. Always the TV (at least I believe so... in that I don't think it can also be used to control the audio on a receiver through the AUX mode, but I may be wrong). In any case I never tried to use VOLUME for other than the TV since I don't have a receiver to worry about.

Ok... along comes the 6412-III (and apparently the 6416 as well) and Motorola/Comcast installs new software and decides they should make the audio output of the DVR "variable" (without also offering a "fixed" option!!!), and now they make the VOLUME rocker connected to either TV or DVR ("cable") on the basis of the mode of the remote. And when it's in CABLE, you are adjusting the variable audio output of the (volume scale displayed at the top of the TV screen). When it's in TV you are adjusting the TV's audio level. I suppose it can also control the receiver audio level (if you have one, that's IR controlled) as well... but I don't know for sure, except your comments imply that it is. So the VOLUME control is for any of the three devices, based on the remote's mode.

Unfortunately, when you're in one of the three remote modes the other keys on the remote may or may not become disabled, or may or may not be "tied" to a single purpose independent of the remote mode. And it's very confusing. Since you're mostly in CABLE mode (to get use of all of the buttons to control the DVR), you have a natural tendency to immediately push VOLUME and end up adjusting the DVR's volume (which you really don't want to, as I think setting it at MAX is where it should always be). It's bothersome to have to push TV first and then adjust volume, and then push CABLE to get the remote back in DVR mode.

In particular, the VOLUME control if used to adjust your AUX/receiver or TV suddenly loses functionality on some DVR-related buttons... which is very annoying! In other words, you now pretty much ALWAYS have to press one of the mode buttons at the top of the [silver] remote prior to using VOLUME, to be sure you're controlling the right device volume, and to ensure that other buttons you want to use for a given device are operational. Really annoying.

But, I guess if you want to let VOLUME work on multiple devices from the remote then this is necessary. I, personally, don't know why they needed a "variable" volume output on the DVR, or didn't also provide a "fixed" option which would have then disabled the use of VOLUME for the DVR and left it tied to TV only (or maybe AUX/receiver if you activate it for that purpose as well).

Bottom line: it appears from your description that their implemention for the 6416 is just like that for the 6412-III, with VOLUME being soft-assigned to whatever device/mode the remote is in. My 6412-II has "fixed" audio output for the DVR, and VOLUME is locked to the TV even if the remote is in "cable/DVR" mode. So I always leave my remote in "cable" mode, as I have no AUX/receiver and don't need to be in TV mode to control VOLUME (which I don't do anyway, since I don't use the TV's speakers and my external speakers/headphones have their own non-IR volume control).

Much as I tried to re-program the remote for the 6412-III at my sister's, I was unable to either disable the DVR's volume functionality or disable the remote's volume adjustment capability for the DVR (and leave it locked on for the TV only).

This appears to be another Motorola/Comcast "step forward" in user-UNfriendliness, designed and implemented by idiots who seem to care not what confusion and complexity they are coming out with. Here's another example... there is no intuitive and conveniently pushed button allocated to showing where you are in the playback of a recording, such as a fuel gauge that might appear along with INFO. However if you push the PLAY button (while playing), the progress fuel gauge will appear. I feel the button is way up near the top of the remote and you have to move your hand/fingers from the normal "gun grip" where your thumb always sits within range of all of the commonly used buttons without moving anything but your thumb. Why not present the fuel gauge along with INFO, perhaps as well as the fuel gauge by itself with PLAY?

Why such a difference in programming from one community to the next? I notice the programming in all the surrounding communities from me is different than mine. They all have HDNET/HDNET Movies, and we don't have them at all. I thought part of the new channel lineups would be to add some uniformity, but this isn't the case at all. Now I have all these new channels numbers to learn and program, but we don't even get the same channels as friends down the road. As far as I can see, not one new channels is being added.

This is my 5th cable company in 10 years, and it's getting pretty old. I can't wait to get my notice that my email addresses will be changing soon. What a pain!


don't worry come jan/feb I'm sure there will be a $2-3 price increase that everyone will get including your area so you don't feel left out. :)

so......when do we start the class-action antitrust lawsuit?

Facts about Cable Television Rates in Los Angeles (http://www.lacity.org/ita/cabletvinfo/itacabletvinfo236128563_04112005.pdf)

Why such a difference in programming from one community to the next? I notice the programming in all the surrounding communities from me is different than mine. They all have HDNET/HDNET Movies, and we don't have them at all.We may get those additional channels in Marina Del Rey, but based on the "HD Plus Tier" pink color you can bet your life they will be optional, and if opted for will be for an extra price (perhaps different if you do or do not have a DVR as well, or maybe just always a flat extra amount).

I long ago started using a forwarding service for my email. I've had many providers but one email name for the last 10 yeas or so. It originally was free "for life" but life ended with the dot-com crash so I pay $20/yr to maintain it. Well worth it. The service I started with was eventually swallowed by mail.com but it still works.

I do have a private email service for personal mail. I used my Comcast addresses for all public uses, such as bill paying, online subscriptions ect.

I am just irritated by these changes. TWC ads and mailings all act like I'm supposed to get all exciting abou the latest changes. Cablevision did it, MediaOne did it, AT & T did it, Comcast did it, and now TWC. Two years from now, someone else will move in, and we'll go through it again.

Already my On Demand programming has been cut in half. Without the Premium channels that I pay for, I find nothing else that interests me there. Channels will change, we'll loose our favorite channels, and rates will go up. It'll all be packaged as if this is to our advantage.

It's just frustrating.

latest channel lineup information (http://www.timewarnercable.com/corporate/channellineups.html)
The new channel lineups and transition dates are now posted!

UHD isn't showing up in the guide, but it is on. For those with tuners (not the supplied STBs), it is on 119.36 unencrypted. I was an existing TWC customer.

The new channel lineups and transition dates are now posted!

UHD isn't showing up in the guide, but it is on. For those with tuners (not the supplied STBs), it is on 119.36 unencrypted. I was an existing TWC customer.

Does this mean that there will still be no CW HD or Ch.13 My tv HD?

Or ESPN2 HD, which is the one I really wanted!

I got the new lineup in the mail from TW today, there were two flyers. A generic one that showed the ESPN2HD and FSNHD logos, and the specific lineup with channel numbers for canoga park. Big f'ing suprise, my new channel lineup does not include ESPN2HD or FSNHD, i will enjoy waiting on hold to b*tch about this...why send someone a notice that they will get ESPN2HD and FSNHD, and include another notice basically saying that "Some people will get these channels, but you aren't one of the chosen people, go back to your cage!!!"


I can't wait to see these two mysterious channels appear too, I have the channel lineup for October and I too didn't see any FSHD or ESPN2HD...

Fox sucks...

Did anyone notice that TNTHD is just everything upscaled to 1080i?

Did anyone notice that TNTHD is just everything upscaled to 1080i?

Don't forget stretched as well. Now THAT's HD! :mad:

Don't worry about FSN HD. The programs will show up on the HD Special Events station according to the schedule (once they update it).

http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD#FSWest

UHD isn't showing up in the guide, but it is on. For those with tuners (not the supplied STBs), it is on 119.36 unencrypted. I was an existing TWC customer.

Darn, it's encrypted for me here in Beverly Hills.

Don't worry about FSN HD. The programs will show up on the HD Special Events station according to the schedule (once they update it).

http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD#FSWest


Only a few of the programs, not all... none of the football is showing on HD special events... I think it's time all of us flood TWC with calls and complain.

Thanks again, DSperber. I now follow everything that you said. I hope you're right that with time, the DVR will work smoothly when I get comnfortable with its operation. It just feels like a major step backward from the user-friendly Moxi. I was expecting it to be even more user-friendly because it's a newer box.

I've been following this exchange with interest because I'm trying to decide between buying a Tivo S3 or just going the low-rent route and getting a Moto DCT6416 from TWC.

I don't want to hijack your conversation, but it seems to me that many of your frustrations with the Moto box (aside from system quirks like the way the grid is displayed), is the lousy navigation of the menus using the standard remote. I don't have this box, but it seems to me that many of these frustrations could be put to rest by getting a universal programmable remote, like my Harmony 676. They can be programmed to deal with your favorite menus with one button press, control the volume of any device any way you want, etc.

I haven't used a dedicated device remote in years, precisely because of the various limitations they impose. I recognize it's an added expense, but something for you to consider.

Off topic - I just had a TWC tech leave my house here in north Redondo (zip 90278), where he added a 10db in-line amp to hopefully address tiling, pixelization, and audio drop-out problems I've been having. He also informed me that he has not done any S3 Cable Card installs yet, but that next to the now-obsolete Moxis, they are the most-hated pieces of hardware that the techs deal with. In his words, they are buggy, many are defective out of the box, and are prone to early failures. In my area, Moxis were the standard issue HD-DVR with Adelphia, but with TWC, he said that if I were to order an HD-DVR today, they would be installing a DCT6416 (with 160GB HDD), and that over time, the Moxis will be swapped out for these units in this area. FYI...

Sakaike, I had a Harmony remote a while back and returned it. I just didn't like it at all. Buttons were small and it just didn't work well for me. My current problems would still exist with it, though, because I just don't like the menus available on the Moto 6416 III. I have gotten more used to them in the last few days and despite being poorly designed, I'm figuring out the remote, too. But make no mistake - there is NO COMPARISON between this and Tivo S3. The Tivo blows this thing away by a country mile. If it weren't $800 (!), I'd already own it.

I've been following this exchange with interest because I'm trying to decide between buying a Tivo S3 or just going the low-rent route and getting a Moto DCT6416 from TWC.

I'm an old Comcast customer and I have two Moto 6412's. The TiVo S3 is very tempting due to the superior software, but the price and fees are staggering. The Moto 6412's are cheap and the HD performance is amazing. The software is not even close to the TiVo quality, but it has improved a lot over the last two years.

I also have two Harmony 688 remotes, and I think they are perfect with my setup.

It looks like TWC started transmitting channel 7.2 last week. For me it's on 102.11. I'm in 90025 west la.

Rudy

It looks like TWC started transmitting channel 7.2 last week. For me it's on 102.11. I'm in 90025 west la.

Rudy

I think that's the old ABC NewsNow Channel which has been on Digital 190 for quite a while now. My TV's QAM locks in on 102.2 for what ever reason.

I'm in the West Valley (Woodland Hills) and I just talked to TW about the new lineup. I asked if they would have FSN HD and ESPN2 HD and she told me the information she had showed that they would be available in October. After telling her I don't see them in the mailer I just received, she realized that what she was looking at internally is different than what was mailed and what is available online. She showed all the HD channels as being in the 900's, rather than from 402 to 431 that was mailed to us.

She is supposed to research this tomorrow and give me a call tomorrow night. I will not hold my breath, however, for a return call. But I will be calling Andrea (she's a supervisor) back tomorrow night to see if she has any answers.

I think that's the old ABC NewsNow Channel which has been on Digital 190 for quite a while now. My TV's QAM locks in on 102.2 for what ever reason.

I don't have the box so I can't check the Digital 190. Maybe your QAM tuner doesn't like channels with two numbers after the period. If you want to check here are some other like channels. I get CNBC on 108.47, Bravo on 116.67, Style on 110.11 etc

Rudy

I don't have the box so I can't check the Digital 190. Maybe your QAM tuner doesn't like channels with two numbers after the period. If you want to check here are some other like channels. I get CNBC on 108.47, Bravo on 116.67, Style on 110.11 etc

Rudy

I get two digit channels but they aren't the same as yours, but close. I have an HP (Sharp) so maybe they do it a different way. Either way it works.

CNBC=108.1
Bravo=116.10
Style=110.5

FMC=88.11
KXLA=103.12
Rock Music=81.13

So they're not all even numbers either.

Way to go,Time Warner :mad: in Hollywood, i'm LOOSING HDNET,HD NET Movies & ESPN2!

I'm in hollywood and I see that these channels will be located at 420,421,425

This is my 5th cable company in 10 years, and it's getting pretty old. I can't wait to get my notice that my email addresses will be changing soon. What a pain!

Exactly, my email changed from mediaone.net to comcast.net to now whatever it would be. That is why I stopped using these emails as my primary emails LONG time ago. I use GMAIL and it is the best free email service with 2.7GB of mail storage, build-in instant chat with other GMAIL members, exceptional spam filter (I get essentially no spam whatsoever with it). If any member needs a GMAIL invite, just email me at dbrodsky@gmail.com and I will gladly offer an invite. You will never go back to anything else.

I just called and cancelled my E* Service due to a large building finished in front of my apartment blocking any satellite line of view. My TWC install appointment is Saturday. I live in LA Beverly Center area, previously serviced by Comcast, so I have no clue which box they will give me, and I have no idea what my lineup will be. One thing I know for sure, I will get less HD channels than I have had with E*, that's for sure, but I have no choice. :rolleyes:

I just talked to some clueless CSR about the Westchester/Playa del Rey channel line-up change hitting us on 12/12 and he said that to get channels like HDNet, HDNet Movies and ESPN2 you have to get a "Time-Warner Package." When I asked what that was, he told me to go to the website. When I asked if we'd be getting a mailer to explain not only the fact that the channels are changing places but what the new fees would be under said "Package," he said no and I gave him an earful. The only way many of us know what the hell is going on is by going to forums like this-- and that's about 1% (or less) of their local customer base. It's frustrating that the cable company expects us to do the legwork for them when all we want is affordable, hassle-free customer service.

Also, has anyone else had a timing problem? The clock/timer on my Moto 6412 III STB is running about 30-45 seconds behind and manually changing EVERYTHING I'm recording is a huge pain in the butt.

TWC has an HDTV Plus tier which I believe is $8/month.

https://ecare.timewarnerla.com/upgrades/index.cfm?promocode=25H

TWC has an HDTV Plus tier which I believe is $8/month.

https://ecare.timewarnerla.com/upgrades/index.cfm?promocode=25H

According to this (http://www.twcusoon.com/Sites/la/prod_DigitalCable.aspx) site, the HDTV tier is $5 (unless of course you choose it as your one and only included tier...

BTW, could they make this site any harder to read?

According to this (http://www.twcusoon.com/Sites/la/prod_DigitalCable.aspx) site, the HDTV tier is $5 (unless of course you choose it as your one and only included tier...

BTW, could they make this site any harder to read?

Clear as mud. In 90025 they tell me nothing! :eek:

I order my TWC cable over the phone last week and they will install it this Sat, and the HDTV tier, according to tel rep was 5$.

Clear as mud. In 90025 they tell me nothing! :eek:

Joe,

I get to the exact same prices if I enter 90025. Once you enter the zip code, click on any of the "Digital Cable" links and scroll all the way to the bottom. Yes, clear as mud! They could make things a little easier to find. It's almost as though they don't want you to know their pricing :D

BTW, it almost looks as though my bill might drop. Current Adelphia bill is $155.72 which includes HD, all premiums, Moxi, and internet. Same thing thru TWC should be 104.95 + 34.95 - 5.00 = 134.90 + tax. Even going up one tier in internet would still put me cheaper than Adelphia.

I just talked to some clueless CSR about the Westchester/Playa del Rey channel line-up change hitting us on 12/12 and he said that to get channels like HDNet, HDNet Movies and ESPN2 you have to get a "Time-Warner Package." When I asked what that was, he told me to go to the website. When I asked if we'd be getting a mailer to explain not only the fact that the channels are changing places but what the new fees would be under said "Package," he said no and I gave him an earful. The only way many of us know what the hell is going on is by going to forums like this-- and that's about 1% (or less) of their local customer base. It's frustrating that the cable company expects us to do the legwork for them when all we want is affordable, hassle-free customer service.

This is the same thing that happened when Comcast came in. You could keep your current package and pricing, but not get any of the new channels offered, as you were "grandfathered." If you want any of the new channels, including the HD channels, you had to "convert" to their packaging and pricing tiers, which were, coincidentally, higher priced. You could keep your currect package, but don't expect any upgrading.

It never ends.

For TW's west valley page, they finally put up a note that says FSN-HD is on the "Special Events" channel (1105) it only took them a couple years to figure that out, i remember arguing with several CSR/Tech people who were trying to tell me that 1105 was part of the MLB Extra Innings package...now we just need them to promise to carry HD content from both FSN-Prime-Ticket and FSN-West

Greetings,
For those who are in TW Beverly Hills-WeHo area, yesterday I had my Moxi box replaced by the Moto DCT 6416 III. Very nice to have a smaller silent unit with a less bright clock display and lots more storage. No problems with the install, but I have to get a DVI-HDMI adapter to use it's HDMI input. Both HD and SD quality, with component connections, seem the same as with the Moxi
The Moxi menu seemed easier to find and record shows, but I'm sure I'll get used to this and the different remote buttons.

Barry

Greetings,
For those who are in TW Beverly Hills-WeHo area, yesterday I had my Moxi box replaced by the Moto DCT 6416 III. Very nice to have a smaller silent unit with a less bright clock display and lots more storage. No problems with the install, but I have to get a DVI-HDMI adapter to use it's HDMI input. Both HD and SD quality, with component connections, seem the same as with the Moxi
The Moxi menu seemed easier to find and record shows, but I'm sure I'll get used to this and the different remote buttons.

Barry
So. is the box HDMI or you?

I just had my cable box (non-DVR) replaced with an "upgrade" by Time Warner. I'm in Camarillo and thought I was getting a Moxi unit (which I also have as a leftover from Adelphia). But the new Motorola 6416 may be a better box, it certainly doesn't measure up to Moxi's feature set. The 6416, while it has a larger H/D, it's more like a glorified VCR. As far as I can tell, and confirmed by the install tech, you can't record a whole tv series, independent of when that series airs (day, time, etc).

The 6416 requires one item programming via start/stop time, day, and how long to keep. No keyword search for programming and the menu system is no better than the original cable receiver. Moxi's menu system/feature set was very intuitive and easy to use, not to mention functional.

I called to complain to Time Warner and was told that Time Warner plans to replace the Moxi units and there was no intention of upgrading the firmware or software to emulate a Moxi-type interface or feature set. This is pushing me to satellite and/or TiVo!!!

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I had the exact same experience. See my posts and DSperber's responses a few pages back. But you'll see that many of the things you thought the box didn't have, it actually DOES have. Your box just hasn't finished loading yet. You can record series and you can do searches, etc. It's not nearly as intuitive as Moxi, but you definitely get used to it.

Oh Thank God for your post...I had steam coming out of my ears after "upgrading" to the new TWC Moto 6416. You're right, it's not a Moxi and that's a real shame. Any idea why the phase out of the Moxi units? If you're not getting paid by TWC, you should be. thanks again.

Hi all,

I'm curious about what exactly will be unencrypted/"in the clear"/unscrambled on Digital Cable/QAM when Time Warner takes over for Adelphia. Not just HD - what's the full list of what will be available?

I ask because I recently bought a TV tuner device for my PC (OnAir GT (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8546066#post8546066)) which can Timeshift and Record Digital channels but only if they're unencrypted; it can also Record, but not Timeshift, Analog channels.

I'm specifically wondering about Discovery Channel and Comedy Central. On Adelphia (what I technically have now) these are channels 31 and 62 on both Analog and Digital; my Digital box from Time Warner (Adelphia) gets them fine but they're encrypted to the Tuner; they both come in over Analog but of course, I can't Timeshift them.

So, does anyone know what the full list of unencrypted QAM channels will be when Time Warner takes over? And when will they officially take over in Woodland Hills, 91364?

As far as I can tell, and confirmed by the install tech, you can't record a whole tv series, independent of when that series airs (day, time, etc). As Teris pointed out, we had a similar discussion last week (back on page 72 of this thread) when he first complained in this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8483097&&#post8483097) about the "upgrade" from Moxi to the 6416.

And as you can see in my initial reply (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8483822&&#post8483822) as well as the back-and-forth discussion that followed, almost all of what you want to do CAN be done!

So yes, your technician is simply ill-informed and wrong. You CAN record a series that airs on different days/time and the DVR will check the Guide info and record whenever it occurs per your specifications. If "Survivor" moves from Thursday to Wednesday because of a special sports event on CBS (e.g. during March Madness), the DVR will see that and record the Wednesday occurrence.

Basic series options offered when you just push OK/Select for some future show in the Guide/Grid and navigate to "create a series recording" are "first run, first run and repeats, or all episodes". You can also choose how many generations of recordings of this show to keep, and when to delete (if necessary).

If before you confirm, you also navigate to the "view all options" item and press OK/Select, you will see additional choices. This includes one channel or all channels, as well as start/stop early or late and by how many minutes.

And of course you can always set up a one-shot or repeating manual recording just like with a VCR, if you must.

No question, the 6416 is not a Tivo, nor a Moxi, but it is also MUCH more sophisticated than a VCR and than you're giving it credit for. It does the job, and however "simple" are some of its implementations you will soon get used to them.

I've had a 6412-II for several years and don't have any complaints. But then I never had a Moxi or Tivo, so I'm quite satisfied with what the 6412 can do for me... and it's perfectly adequate for my needs. Most important for me is the fact that it has an active firewire (1394) port that works perfectly and allows me to archive perfect digital copies from the DVR to my two D-VHS VCR's, so that I can (1) add to my D-VHS tape library of movies in HD when something has been shown on HBOHD, SHOHD, MaxHD or Starz-HD that I want to keep, (2) archive from DVR to D-VHS some of the wonderful and glorious-to-look-at nature and science presentations on Disc-HD which I also use as "HD demo material" to show to visitors, or (3) temporarily offload my usual weekly or other DVR-recorded content to D-VHS tape for later timeshifting/viewing of HD from tape when I'm short on hard drive space. Neither the Moxi nor Tivo can provide that capability.

Hi all,

I'm curious about what exactly will be unencrypted/"in the clear"/unscrambled on Digital Cable/QAM when Time Warner takes over for Adelphia. Not just HD - what's the full list of what will be available?

I ask because I recently bought a TV tuner device for my PC (OnAir GT (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8546066#post8546066)) which can Timeshift and Record Digital channels but only if they're unencrypted; it can also Record, but not Timeshift, Analog channels.

I'm specifically wondering about Discovery Channel and Comedy Central. On Adelphia (what I technically have now) these are channels 31 and 62 on both Analog and Digital; my Digital box from Time Warner (Adelphia) gets them fine but they're encrypted to the Tuner; they both come in over Analog but of course, I can't Timeshift them.

So, does anyone know what the full list of unencrypted QAM channels will be when Time Warner takes over? And when will they officially take over in Woodland Hills, 91364?

I hate to break it to you, but shhhhh, Time Warner took over August 1st. Adelphia ceased to exist on that day.

So. is the box HDMI or you?

Hi Joe,
Since the MOXI box had only a DVI input, I had a HDMI to DVI cable from it to a Sony Bravia 32" XBR. So I need a female DVI to male HDMI adapter for the 6416 or a new HDMI to HDMI cable. Why are all the HD cables so expensive? Seems like they should be getting less so. But, hey, what do I know?

Barry

www.monoprice.com for inexpensive, yet reliable, HDMI cables. They aren't Monster's, but work for me and others.

Hi Joe,
Since the MOXI box had only a DVI input, I had a HDMI to DVI cable from it to a Sony Bravia 32" XBR. So I need a female DVI to male HDMI adapter for the 6416 or a new HDMI to HDMI cable. Actually, the Moxi box has a DVI "output". The TV end is the "input", in this connection.

Nevertheless you're right... you now wanted an HDMI-to-HDMI path, which requires an adapter or a new cable, given what you already had. Personally, I'd just get a new cable instead of involving an adapter (which you had to buy anyway).

Cables are available at many places, and digital cables in particular are pretty much all acceptable. Extra cost goes into workmanship, connector quality, corrosion-resistant materials, etc. But for the most part there's no difference between "standard" quality and "high-end premium" as far as your HD picture quality will show.

You might consider the RAM products (advertiser on AVS) where I've bought all of my audio and video cables, from 3ft to 30ft in length. They offer a 10% discount for AVS members on their "high-end" cables.

High-end HDMI cables (http://www.ramelectronics.net/avs.htm#hdmi) priced for AVS members.

Standard quality HDMI cables (http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/DVI-hdmi_cables.html#std)

Hi Joe,
Since the MOXI box had only a DVI input, I had a HDMI to DVI cable from it to a Sony Bravia 32" XBR. So I need a female DVI to male HDMI adapter for the 6416 or a new HDMI to HDMI cable. Why are all the HD cables so expensive? Seems like they should be getting less so. But, hey, what do I know?

Barry

I agree with Arvy. Monoprice is great, and fast! In CA you'll have an instock item in 1-2 days at most. Order in the AM don't pay for express unless your nervous! ;)

...No question, the 6416 is not a Tivo, nor a Moxi, but it is also MUCH more sophisticated than a VCR and than you're giving it credit for. It does the job, and however "simple" are some of its implementations you will soon get used to them...

You're certainly right, DSperber, that the 6416 is not TiVo or Moxi, and that's my real gripe with TWC. They tout this as an upgrade, but if you ever had a TiVo or Moxi I don't think you'd see it quite that way. True, thanks to your posts, I've discovered that most of the functionality (and I'm sure there's more) is there in the 6416, but IMHO it's very cumbersome to access. It may seem petty, but the Moxi unit was very intuitive and easy to learn - almost no learning curve.

I'm done griping, but it urks me that TWC is eliminating a service I really, really enjoy and telling me the replacement is better (and charging more!).

Does anyone know why TWC is eliminating the Moxi? Is it because of maintenance/hardware support issues/costs???

Does anyone know why TWC is eliminating the Moxi? Is it because of maintenance/hardware support issues/costs???Perhaps they just don't want to maintain head-end support for multiple DVR's? Comcast never provided Moxi boxes to its customers and I imagine that in LA the acquired Comcast customer base is much larger than the TWC/Adelphia world for which Moxi was provided.

Also, they ARE required by FCC regulations to provide 1394-equipped boxes if the customer requests it, and the Moxi didn't have it. The 6200/6208/6412/6416 family does. So why complicate things for themselves? Why not simplify?

Perhaps they just don't want to maintain head-end support for multiple DVR's? Comcast never provided Moxi boxes to its customers and I imagine that in LA the acquired Comcast customer base is much larger than the TWC/Adelphia world for which Moxi was provided.

Also, they ARE required by FCC regulations to provide 1394-equipped boxes if the customer requests it, and the Moxi didn't have it. The 6200/6208/6412/6416 family does. So why complicate things for themselves? Why not simplify?

I believe, and Splinke can correct me, later generation MOXIs have FireWire.

You're certainly right, DSperber, that the 6416 is not TiVo or Moxi, and that's my real gripe with TWC. They tout this as an upgrade, but if you ever had a TiVo or Moxi I don't think you'd see it quite that way.It's not appropriate to compare Tivo devices to the DVR's provided by the cable companies. There is a gigantic difference in price, and mostly in life you get what you pay for. In fact, the recently released Tivo S3 (which only now finally supports cable-provided and off-air HD) costs $800, plus $13 monthly Tivo service (or still expensive up-front packages), plus the cost of HD packages from the cable company plus the cost of two CableCards! The cable DVR's rent for $10/month, HD package included. Might make one pause and consider one's real needs.

It's more appropriate to compare the Motorola 64xx family of DVR's vs. SA8300 vs. Motorola Moxi. And these simply are three different boxes, with three different interfaces. I'm sure one could argue pro and con about the assorted features and interface techniques implemented in all three, with certain things present or absent in all three or implemented in somewhat different ways.

There is no one box that has it best for everything (e.g. the Motorola 64xx family has a "red dot" icon that appears in the Guide/Grid to show you a recording is scheduled, whereas the Tivo does not. There, I feel the Motorola to be superior to the Tivo in that regard!) so there's just no point in arguing.

For my needs, the 6412 is perfectly adequate... plus it has an active 100% working firewire port for archiving to D-VHS, which none of the others has.

Welcome to Time Warner I got today! I had the installation scheduled two weeks ago for today between 10AM and 12. Nobody showed up. When I called in, the sales person had no answer why someone did not show up. I asked to be transferred to the manager who told me that was a computer glitch and computer automatically re-scheduled people's appointments! Have you ever heard of it? He said sorry nothing we can do. Never ceases to amaze me. Is there a way to self-install their cable box? Or it must be installed by their salesperson?

Welcome to Time Warner I got today! I had the installation scheduled two weeks ago for today between 10AM and 12. Nobody showed up. When I called in, the sales person had no answer why someone did not show up. I asked to be transferred to the manager who told me that was a computer glitch and computer automatically re-scheduled people's appointments! Have you ever heard of it? He said sorry nothing we can do. Never ceases to amaze me. Is there a way to self-install their cable box? Or it must be installed by their salesperson?

Sounds like you're entitled to $20 from TWC (see this site (http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/10promises/default.html)). They keep running adds that say they'll be on time. We should hold them to it!

Welcome to Time Warner I got today! I had the installation scheduled two weeks ago for today between 10AM and 12. Nobody showed up. When I called in, the sales person had no answer why someone did not show up. I asked to be transferred to the manager who told me that was a computer glitch and computer automatically re-scheduled people's appointments! Have you ever heard of it? He said sorry nothing we can do. Never ceases to amaze me. Is there a way to self-install their cable box? Or it must be installed by their salesperson?


Remind them, that's $20 for you. They CAN'T miss an appointment! It sux BTW.

Sounds like you're entitled to $20 from TWC (see this site (http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/10promises/default.html)). They keep running adds that say they'll be on time. We should hold them to it!

I called them and they did credit 20$ to my account. However, my time and frastration of waiting felt like much more than $20. Now I have to take time off work on Wed to wait for them 10-12am. What if there is another computer glitch, and again, they will not show up? Is it 20$ again? They should pay me my salary that I will be losing by waiting for them.

Hi,

I am out in Oxnard and at this time am not able to get the special HD package that most other locations have been able to purchase and access. HD net etc.. and although I should automatically be getting CinemaxHD they are not able to activate it in Oxnard (so they have told me). I do get the the usal HD channels, ABC, Dscovery, Tnt etc..

So, here is my beef and or question.........I have just seen the new channel line up that is rolling out for us in Nov. I am afraid to get too excited about all the HD options because we in Oxnard never seem to be able to get the channels they promise us. I especially do not want to get my hopes up for the option of purchasing NBA League Pass and NBA TV. When I saw those as an option I got excited and then let down.

In the past when I tried to get NBA league Pass, Adelphia would charge me for it and yet the games would never be televised for the Oxnard area. Then they would have to refund my money which was always a scene. 3 years in a row that happened. And once they figured it out they would say, it is not possible to get it in Oxnard. So here I am afraid to be burned again.

Is it possible that TWC will actually give us what they say we are suppose to get?

We in Oxnard would surely like to have them walk their talk. The NBA season is upon us and their are new HD channels out their we would like to be able to purchase.

What if anything do you experts in the field know about this? I would sure like to be pleasantly suprised. And what is it about Oxnard? Are we the step children of
the cable world?? :confused: [/FONT] [/FONT]

I agree with Arvy. Monoprice is great, and fast! In CA you'll have an instock item in 1-2 days at most. Order in the AM don't pay for express unless your nervous! ;)

Great input (pun intended), I appreciate it.
Barry

Hi,

What if anything do you experts in the field know about this? I would sure like to be pleasantly suprised. And what is it about Oxnard? Are we the step children of
the cable world?? :confused: [/FONT] [/FONT]

I am no expert, but I can tell you what I've been told. I am in Camarillo and have the same limited lineup and the same concerns as you. Our system, as originally built by GTE Americast in the late 90s is already out of date, and is scheduled to be upgraded this year. (750mHz to 850 mHz bandwidth).

Whether this occurs prior to the November date they've given, or whether that date sticks, is unpredictable.

In the mean time, I'm watching the Verizon people dig up my street to lay their fiber optic trunk. They have already strung the fiber optic cable to my house and I'm told that we should go 'live' in a few weeks. According to the local paper, the cities of Thousand Oaks and Camarillo have already entered into a franchise agreement to allow Verizon to provide their new FIOS televison (in addition to their ultra high speed internet service), and as soon we actually do go 'live' I will show Adelphia or Time Warner or whatever their name is the door. Hopefully you'll have that opportunity to do the same very soon.

I'm watching the Ravens and Chargers on CBS HD right now and the picture is terrible. The Halftime Show looks good, bu the game itself looks bad. Is anyone else seeing this? Also, why does my 50E2000 display the picture with borders? I have it set to Full Screen, but I have borders on the side (although it says it's a 16:9 perspective).

EDIT: I should have mentioned that I'm in Tarzana and have TW Cable.

CBS is not broadcasting the Charger Raven game in HD

CBS will show only three games a week in HD (every game on the other networks will be in HD). Tony Petitti, CBS Sports executive vice president and executive producer, said he expects all games to be in HD by 2008 or 2009, but the priority this offseason was to build a new studio that will allow “The NFL Today” to be shown in HD. I don't know about anybody else, but I'd rather see a game in HD than a studio show.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20060908-9999-1s8mediabox.html

CBS is not broadcasting the Charger Raven game in HD

CBS will show only three games a week in HD (every game on the other networks will be in HD). Tony Petitti, CBS Sports executive vice president and executive producer, said he expects all games to be in HD by 2008 or 2009, but the priority this offseason was to build a new studio that will allow “The NFL Today” to be shown in HD. I don't know about anybody else, but I'd rather see a game in HD than a studio show.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20060908-9999-1s8mediabox.html

Thanks for the information. So, why does my cable box show that it's in 1080i then? I'm new to the HD scene and this confused me. Thanks!

assuming you have an HD cable box and you are tuned to KCBS DT you are watching a standard definition program on a HDTV channel carried by your local cable operator. CBS and NBC broadcast in 1080I while ABC and Fox broadcast in 720p. The cable box confirmed you were watching the HDTV channel when it said it's in 1080I however the original content was in standard definition. Until the broadcasters analog signals are cut off most continue to simulcast the same content on both their analog and digital transmitters.

Thanks again for the information bgooch.

I have another question for you guys. I bought my Sony 50E2000 three weeks ago. The first weekend of owning it, I thought it was malfunctioning as the picture would blink on and off on occasion, although the power light remained on. I posted a message in another forum here to see if anyone could explain what was happening, and they also thought it was TV. However, I believe it may have something to do with the cable box or service as it continues to happen intermittantly, especially when I'm up in the HD channels.

For example, just now, it happened again. I tuned to a HD channel, but the screen stayed black, although it displayed the cable input information (Input 6 in this case). After remaining black for ten seconds or so, I changed to another channel, but still had the same problem. I then turned the cable box off and on, then it started working again. So, it seems like it has to do with the bandwith of the cable system rather than my TV. Does that seem reasonable? Or should I exchange the TV in the next week as I can return it to CC within 30 days of delivery. Thanks!

sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that television. How is the cable box connected to the TV? HDMI - DVI - component ? I would use an alternative connection and see if that eliminates the problem. Keep looking for someone with a similar set up to yours for help. before returning the TV I would ask the manufacturer, retailer and cable company if there are any known issues with your particular model TV and cable box. I would not let the drop dead date pass without satisfactory resolution.

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7386_1-6214443-6.html

sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that television. How is the cable box connected to the TV? HDMI - DVI - component ? I would use an alternative connection and see if that eliminates the problem. Keep looking for someone with a similar set up to yours for help. before returning the TV I would ask the manufacturer, retailer and cable company if there are any known issues with your particular model TV and cable box. I would not let the drop dead date pass without satisfactory resolution.

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7386_1-6214443-6.html

Thanks again.

I have it connected directly from my Cable Box to the TV via a HDMI to HDMI cable. I will have to look into this further in the next few days.

Discovery HD is supposed to be broadcast unencrypted but the digital scan did not pick it up. Does anyone have the actual number for channel 172?

Thanks.

Discovery HD is supposed to be broadcast unencrypted but the digital scan did not pick it up. Does anyone have the actual number for channel 172?

Thanks.

DHDT is not in the clear. At least in
West LA.

Oh well, I thought it was clear but by the time I went through a 100 music choice channels I thought I might have deleted it by mistake.

Thanks.

I hate to break it to you, but shhhhh, Time Warner took over August 1st. Adelphia ceased to exist on that day.
A business can cease to exist while its systems remain - such is the case here. I've been told by Time Warner that I'm currently on an Adelphia lineup still, even though Time Warner has taken over billing. Different parts of service are coming in in different steps in different areas. I'm in Woodland Hills/91364, and I can assure you, I'm not on Time Warner's cable selection yet.

So, I'd still like to know what's "in the clear" on the actual Time Warner lineup. Are the extended basic channels like Comedy Central and Discovery Channel in unscrambled QAM? Anyone know?

A business can cease to exist while its systems remain - such is the case here. I've been told by Time Warner that I'm currently on an Adelphia lineup still, even though Time Warner has taken over billing. Different parts of service are coming in in different steps in different areas. I'm in Woodland Hills/91364, and I can assure you, I'm not on Time Warner's cable selection yet.

So, I'd still like to know what's "in the clear" on the actual Time Warner lineup. Are the extended basic channels like Comedy Central and Discovery Channel in unscrambled QAM? Anyone know?

That is true that the transition is not over and it is a mess.

In fact when the TWC installers did not show up last Saturday, I went to the local TWC office to complain. First TWC office could not help me because they were former Adelphia office, and TWC only gave them limited power to enter anything in the computer, and I was a former Comcast customer. I had to go to TWC office which is a formar Comcast office for them to be able to help me. However, the Comcast's computer system is not well married to the TWC either, the in-office rep gave me a non-hd cable box to bind me over until TWC installers would come next. However by doing it, she, without even realizing it, cancelled my future TWC appointment. I had to call TWC again. Now because TWC is on a new computer system themseleves, my appointment last Sat was cancelled by computer itself.

Bottom line: if you order a TWC serviceperson to your house these days, do not authomatically assume they will show up. I suggest calling TWC every day (and sometimes twice a day) to check if your service appointment is still valid all the way up to the last day before appointment (sometimes their computer will cancel your appointment the day before).

As far as the Clear Qam HD Channels, they are ABC, CBS, NBS, PBS, KTLA (in la), FOX...there could be other channels opening up for temporary windows when they run free promotions.

I got a laugh today when I got my first TW bill. Remember how your bill will not go up now that TW has replaced Adelphia and Comcast? Think again. For anyone on the "promotions" that Adelphia ran (and I use the term "promotions" jokingly because there was never a time when I wasn't on a "promotion"), you're in for a rude awakening when you get your TW bill. My bill was $50 more per month!!!

I called to complain and reminded them of their promise not to raise the price and they said that promise didn't include promotions. I told them that my cable bill has been the same every month for over a year - those promotions were sales bs. THey wouldn't budge. I told them to cancel my service at the end of the billing cycle - that way, I'll have time to search for cheaper alternatives. This company sucks!

I got a laugh today when I got my first TW bill. Remember how your bill will not go up now that TW has replaced Adelphia and Comcast? Think again. For anyone on the "promotions" that Adelphia ran (and I use the term "promotions" jokingly because there was never a time when I wasn't on a "promotion"), you're in for a rude awakening when you get your TW bill. My bill was $50 more per month!!!

I called to complain and reminded them of their promise not to raise the price and they said that promise didn't include promotions. I told them that my cable bill has been the same every month for over a year - those promotions were sales bs. THey wouldn't budge. I told them to cancel my service at the end of the billing cycle - that way, I'll have time to search for cheaper alternatives. This company sucks!

I called a few weeks ago and complained about the lack of HD channels and they comped me $20/mo until December. I don't think they are averse to promos.

Thanks for the info, Kracko. Is that discount for a certain period of time? What exactly what your complaint? That there are only X number of HD channels?

I complained that the HD lineup hasn't changed in over a year and that I was considering switching to Sat becuase of it. I never threatened and then simply asked if they could do anything for me.

I'm new to the whole HD technology so excuse me for asking a dumb newbie question. I live in Placentia, CA (Orange County) and I just ordered an LCD TV with an HD tuner built in. I have basic cable with TWC (formerly Adelphia) and no converter box. Do I have to have a converter box to get HD from the regular (ABC, CBS, etc.) channels?

Thanks.

I'm new to the whole HD technology so excuse me for asking a dumb newbie question. I live in Placentia, CA (Orange County) and I just ordered an LCD TV with an HD tuner built in. I have basic cable with TWC (formerly Adelphia) and no converter box. Do I have to have a converter box to get HD from the regular (ABC, CBS, etc.) channels?

Thanks.

The magic letters, and shame on you for not asking BEFORE you bought, are QAM. If your TV has that, yes. ATSC, no. ATSC get an antenna.

I don't think those letters are magic. I've read them 3 or 4 times now and I still don't know what they mean! ;-)

However my manual for the TV states:
Tuner: ATSC digital tuner with unscrambled digital cable (QAM) capability.

So I'm still confused. Do I need a box? (I told you I was a newbie)

Thanks joe221

I'm new to the whole HD technology so excuse me for asking a dumb newbie question. I live in Placentia, CA (Orange County) and I just ordered an LCD TV with an HD tuner built in. I have basic cable with TWC (formerly Adelphia) and no converter box. Do I have to have a converter box to get HD from the regular (ABC, CBS, etc.) channels?

Thanks.

If the tv you ordered has QAM tuner than you do not need a converter box to get HD from the regular stations. If it is only ATSC tuner, then you do need a converter box.

ATSC only decodes over-the-air HD signals. You need QAM tuner to decode Cable HD channels

I guess my TV does QAM too..

Over the Air: Analog NTSC, Digital ATSC with sub-channels (all 18 video formats)
Cable: Analog NTSC (non-scrambled) Digital QAM 64 and 256 with sub-channels (non-scrambled)
CableCARD™: Authorized scrambled and non-scrambled digital channels

Found this at dummies.com via google..
Some HDTVs with built-in ATSC tuners also have special tuners that can decode QAM-encoded HDTV signals. QAM is the system used by most cable-TV networks. This means you may be able to pick up your local broadcast stations by just plugging in your cable TV connection. Note that this is different from the DCR (digital-cable-ready) systems. And no, this has nothing to do with using an OTA antenna, but it's a nice morsel of information to know in case you're ever asked this question at a neighborhood BBQ.

I made an appointment to have the new TWC DVR installed. The CSR said they are limited in quantity so my ability to get one would depend on their stock on the day of the appointment. I said okay and she added that there would be a $29.99 charge for the trip.

Currently, I have a Moxi which is okay. The main reasons I want the new DVR is because of the extra storage space and HDMI. My TV (Samsung HLN 567W) actually comes with DVI but I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work with the Moxi. I am not using a receiver or switch. I am hoping that the new DVR will allow me to finally use the DVI port on my TV for something other than viewing DVD's.

Don't pay the fee. They will waive it. Sometimes you have to call back and speak to a different customer service rep, but my brother just got his DVR and they waived that fee.

I made an appointment to have the new TWC DVR installed. The CSR said they are limited in quantity so my ability to get one would depend on their stock on the day of the appointment. I said okay and she added that there would be a $29.99 charge for the trip.

Currently, I have a Moxi which is okay. The main reasons I want the new DVR is because of the extra storage space and HDMI. My TV (Samsung HLN 567W) actually comes with DVI but I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work with the Moxi. I am not using a receiver or switch. I am hoping that the new DVR will allow me to finally use the DVI port on my TV for something other than viewing DVD's.

I too have a Moxi unit and boy was I disappointed when I upgraded my sd receiver to the new TWC HD DVR. It's not the Moxi interface. Although most of the functionality is in the new unit, I would describe the Moxi interface as Windows XP (or Mac OS X) and the new unit's interface as DOS. Did TWC tell you that they're going to discontinue supporting the Moxi unit? If you like your Moxi, I'm willing to wager that you won't be too thrilled with the new DVR unit. I'm looking at switching to satellite dish! But, yes, the new DVR has an HDMI output.