I have one coupon and have not used it yet, but I still have two weeks before it goes *poof*. The sales staff at RS said that their converters are eligible for the $40 DTV Coupon.My coupons expire Thursday ... and since there is no sign of Echostar's DTVPal RS got my money, accepting both of my coupons.

The only issue was that the boxes were out of stock ... but I paid today and they will ship the boxes direct to home (no extra charge). Hopefully the boxes are worth the > $40 price.

Echostar really messed this up by not getting their product to market. Perhaps they will be ready for the second wave of purchases (later coupon requests).

I have 2 coupons good through 7/29. What will be the best converter box to get?

I have 2 coupons good through 7/29. What will be the best converter box to get?

You can see consumer reviews here:

http://www.dtv-hdtv.com/viewforum.php?f=6

They are saying the Echostar DTVPal-TR40 is the one to get. Solid Signal has them on preorder. They should be available after June 16th. You cannot use the government issued coupon unless converter box is in stock though....

I live on the northside of Elkhart near 6 span bridge and I have not had any trouble with 16-1 or any of the other digitals. I have antenna on tripod on second story aimed at 249 on the compass and I have good signals on all channels.

Who in the South Bend area carries the Echostar DTVPal-TR40 ?

I am a retailer in Mishawaka and should have a shipment in next wednesday and they are coupon eligible.

Ralph43 - What type and brand of antenna do you have? I have the radio shack 75R directional UHF.

I am a retailer in Mishawaka...

Which one?

Pardon me if this has already been discussed.

I have a Dish Network 722 receiver and noticed the program guide for channel 69 does still not load after a scan of the local channels. Does this jive with what everyone else is seeing? If so, when might the guide be activated? Thank you.

Sorry I do not remember what brand of antenna I have. It was installed on a three foot tripod on the second story of my house be an installer out of Niles, Mi that Best Buy used to install Directv when they first installed my sat.

Retailer for both Directv and Dishnetwork and we carry The Winegard PR-4400 4-Bay antenna.We should have the DTV PAL in by the end of next week.

Pardon me if this has already been discussed.

I have a Dish Network 722 receiver and noticed the program guide for channel 69 does still not load after a scan of the local channels. Does this jive with what everyone else is seeing? If so, when might the guide be activated? Thank you.DISH provides the EPG information via satellite instead of using OTA received information for stations. As 69 is a channel not carried by DISH they don't have the EPG for it. You will get the channel, but not the guide.

Just heard about the hail. Everyone O.K. out there?

Just heard about the hail. Everyone O.K. out there?

It feels cold out, but I did not see any hail here in Jimtown. However I did see a beautiful double rainbow just a few minutes ago. I've never seen a double rainbow before like that. It was one of the most beautiful sites of nature I've ever seen.

However I did hear one heck of a crack of thunder about 15 minutes ago.. The only thing I'm worried about is lightening hitting my antenna. Yikes!

Looks like Fox 28 is down and out at the moment. I just checked digital OTA and on the cable box.. Even the analog channel for 28 is down on cable.

After analog shutdown, all the full power stations in South Bend have requested power increases. Here they are:

WNDU-DT wants to go from 560 kw to 800 kw on channel 42

WSBT-DT wants to go from roughly 200 kw to 266 kw on channel 22

WSJV-DT wants to go from 220 kw to 250 kw on channel 28

WHME-DT wants to go from 300 kw to 640 kw on channel 48

hvs10trk, I've got a question/observation for you. I just picked up a Zenith DTT901 from CC (I had to use my DTV coupon as it expired on Sunday) and the time coming from your stations are off by an hour (CDT vs. EDT). All the other stations in our market have the right time (even WSBT, who was fast by 5 minutes a few months ago!). Is this a case of your local hardware being configured for Central time or not being set up to observe Eastern DST?

Edit: Okay, if I set my Zenith's clock to Eastern and DST on (instead of Auto,) WCWW-HD 25-1 has the "right" time (your clock is a minute and 38 seconds fast). So, it appears that your PSIP does not set the DST flag. Does that sound feasible?

hvs10trk, I've got a question/observation for you. I just picked up a Zenith DTT901 from CC (I had to use my DTV coupon as it expired on Sunday) and the time coming from your stations are off by an hour (CDT vs. EDT). All the other stations in our market have the right time (even WSBT, who was fast by 5 minutes a few months ago!). Is this a case of your local hardware being configured for Central time or not being set up to observe Eastern DST?

Edit: Okay, if I set my Zenith's clock to Eastern and DST on (instead of Auto,) WCWW-HD 25-1 has the "right" time (your clock is a minute and 38 seconds fast). So, it appears that your PSIP does not set the DST flag. Does that sound feasible?

PSIP time comes from the computer and they're all off here. :eek:

PSIP time comes from the computer and they're all off here. :eek::eek:, indeed... I've been reading up on the ASTC A/69 Recommended Practices to find out how time is represented in PSIP. Every second, the STT updates with the GPS time (# real seconds since midnight, Jan 6th, 1980); the UTC offset (number of leap seconds added since 06-Jan-1980); and the Daylight Saving field (DST in effect and the day and hour of the next DST change).

That's the field I don't understand. The text in the A/69 pdf (http://www.atsc.org/standards/a_69.pdf for those of you who want to read along) saysThe STT also provides daylight savings time status (whether or not daylight savings time is
in effect), and indicates the day of the month and the hour that the next transition will occur.Just how you represent that information in a 16-bit unsigned integer is a puzzle. Google comes to the rescue by finding another PDF with bit-by-bit PSIP Table Definitions (http://www.dtvinnovations.com/pdf/PSIP%20ATSC.pdf). Page 22 indicates the Daylight Savings word consists of:Bit 00 DST Flag (0=Standard Time, 1=Daylight Saving Time)
Bit 01-02 Set to "11"
Bit 03-07 Day of Month DST changes (1-31)
Bit 08-15 Hour of Day DST change occurs (0-18)So, right now, we should be seeing a DST field value of "0xE000". As I don't have access to the data tools necessary to decode the ATSC data coming from your stations, I'll leave the rest as an exercise for hvs10trk... ;)

Google comes to the rescue by finding another PDF with bit-by-bit PSIP Table Definitions (http://www.dtvinnovations.com/pdf/PSIP%20ATSC.pdf). Page 22 indicates the Daylight Savings word consists of:Bit 00 DST Flag (0=Standard Time, 1=Daylight Saving Time)
Bit 01-02 Set to "11"
Bit 03-07 Day of Month DST changes (1-31)
Bit 08-15 Hour of Day DST change occurs (0-18)So, right now, we should be seeing a DST field value of "0xE000". As I don't have access to the data tools necessary to decode the ATSC data coming from your stations, I'll leave the rest as an exercise for hvs10trk... ;)

DST ends November 2nd, 2am. It's interesting that the standard doesn't require a month for the next transition ... only the day of the month and hour?

Anyways ... in bits:
00 "1"=DST
01-02 "11"
03-07 "00010"=The 2nd (of November)
08-15 "00000010"=2am (assuming local time)

"11100010 00000010" = 0xE202 ... unless the date code isn't sent until the month of transition (which wouldn't provide much warning with transition occurring on the first Sunday of the month. It would make sense not to advertise the next change until the final month (after October 2nd this year) if receivers are using this flag to adjust the EPG display and skip ahead/fall back to skip or duplicate hours.

It would be nice to have an EPG that smart ... but most OTA EPGs don't go too far out anyways. At the moment 8am (6 hours) and 2pm (12 hours) are the most popular cut off time in the South Bend market.

Does anyone have an update on DISH carrying the locals in HD?

DST ends November 2nd, 2am. It's interesting that the standard doesn't require a month for the next transition ... only the day of the month and hour?

Anyways ... in bits:
00 "1"=DST
01-02 "11"
03-07 "00010"=The 2nd (of November)
08-15 "00000010"=2am (assuming local time)

"11100010 00000010" = 0xE202 ... unless the date code isn't sent until the month of transition (which wouldn't provide much warning with transition occurring on the first Sunday of the month. It would make sense not to advertise the next change until the final month (after October 2nd this year) if receivers are using this flag to adjust the EPG display and skip ahead/fall back to skip or duplicate hours.According to the documents I've read, the day-of-month and hour-of-day bit fields aren't specified until the month of the DST change. So in your example, the daylight_savings field would be 0xE000 until November 1st (GMT, I assume) when it would change to 0xE202. After the 2nd, I assume it would change to 0x6000 to indicate no adjustment for DST is needed.

The clocks on WCWW-HD, WBND-HD, and WMYS-SD are still off 1h01m40s (1m40s if the DST flag gets fixed.) BTW, I gripe about our Forest and Domain clocks being out of synch at work, so don't take it personally... :)

Retailer for both Directv and Dishnetwork and we carry The Winegard PR-4400 4-Bay antenna.We should have the DTV PAL in by the end of next week.

Got any of those DTV PALs in yet?

Based on his user title a good guess would be http://mcsatellite.com/

Yes and he has had some! I got two but havent used them yet as I was sick over the weekend!

Has anyone else noticed signal quality issues with WSBT lately?

I was watching NCIS last night and noticed every few minutes the picture would break up into large blocks for a second. I am receiving WSBT-HD via comcast.

Does anyone have an update on DISH carrying the locals in HD?
Per a recent dish network press release they will be releasing local channels for South Bend in the summer or fall of this year.

So far the only channel I have a real reception problem with is 57.1. All the other local channels come in with out any reception problems. My options A: Risk my neck and turn the antenna again in hopes that I don't lose any channels all the while I try to get 57 to come in more stable.. B: Wait for the for the analog shut off to occur next year and pray that when all the channels fall into place that 57 just clears up on it's own. Or I possibly could wait it out for C: .. Um God forbid B: doesn't go well and I'm left waiting until spring before risking my neck in an attempt to fix it.

I know there's a lot of people concerned with bad reception and dead spots after the analog shut off. On the other hand I thought I've heard all the local stations are hoping to bump up their power which would probably make that concern a non issue. So should I hold tight, or go ahead and see if I can get 57 to come in better? I admit I'm a bit reluctant to go back up because I'm afraid I'll lose half my channels again trying to get 57 to play nice.

So far the only channel I have a real reception problem with is 57.1. All the other local channels come in with out any reception problems. My options A: Risk my neck and turn the antenna again in hopes that I don't lose any channels all the while I try to get 57 to come in more stable.. B: Wait for the for the analog shut off to occur next year and pray that when all the channels fall into place that 57 just clears up on it's own. Or I possibly could wait it out for C: .. Um God forbid B: doesn't go well and I'm left waiting until spring before risking my neck in an attempt to fix it.

I know there's a lot of people concerned with bad reception and dead spots after the analog shut off. On the other hand I thought I've heard all the local stations are hoping to bump up their power which would probably make that concern a non issue. So should I hold tight, or go ahead and see if I can get 57 to come in better? I admit I'm a bit reluctant to go back up because I'm afraid I'll lose half my channels again trying to get 57 to play nice.

I think, in general, reception issues will improve. It's hard to predict how much though until it happens.

Per a recent dish network press release they will be releasing local channels for South Bend in the summer or fall of this year.

Thanks for the info. Here's a link to the June 30 press release:

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/prnewswire/press_releases/Colorado/2008/06/30/LAM518

Yes and he has had some! I got two but havent used them yet as I was sick over the weekend!

Are these boxes at Gitouta1 eligible for the government coupons or do you have to pay the full price? Thanks!

They are eligible for the government coupons .

I called a few retail stores, in our area, who sell Dish Network. The Satellite Store at 312 S. Main in Mishawaka has them, & they take the government coupons. I got 2 & paid $20 cash for each one. If you pay by credit card, it costs more. Thanks to you people on this Forum. I wouldn't have known to call these places. I was told, I could, only, get them at DTVPal.com........no where else.:)

Does anybody have any idea when Directv will have locals in HD?

Anyone in SouthBend / Mishawaka have a cable card that works with Comcasts HD package?

hvs10trk, now that you're back from the lakes district, do you have a time table (sorry) for a fix for Weigel's LD stations missing Daylight Saving Time flag?

hvs10trk, now that you're back from the lakes district, do you have a time table (sorry) for a fix for Weigel's LD stations missing Daylight Saving Time flag?

No I don't, unfortunately. I'll see what I can do.

Does anybody have any idea when Directv will have locals in HD?

Probably when D11 becomes active. Hopefully soon. The Directv web site shows a HD Local Receive Facility at Channel 16.

No I don't, unfortunately. I'll see what I can do.Thanks! I notice that the Program Information on my Toshiba seems to "know" that I'm in the Eastern Time Zone, but for some reason all the times are off an hour. I wonder if the TV picked one of Weigel's stations to get its time.

RE: Dish getting South Bend HD Locals, I noticed a new HD channel appeared in my EPG on my ViP 211. I now see channel 075-00 that says it has information about HD local stations that are now availabel in my area. Of course, when I try to go to it, it says it's Blacked-Out in my area...:mad:

I now see channel 075-00 that says it has information about HD local stations that are now availabel in my area. Of course, when I try to go to it, it says it's Blacked-Out in my area...:mad:

I just noticed channel 75 today and I get the same message.

I just noticed channel 75 today and I get the same message....and now I see it is gone. No great loss since we couldn't watch it anyway, right?

...and now I see it is gone. No great loss since we couldn't watch it anyway, right?

Same here.

I have a question for someone with a DTVpal in the Michiana area. Does the TVGuide work? I was looking for a DTV Convertor box for my folks that would mimic the DBS box that they're used to.

Yes, the guide does work on the PalTV box. You even get the guide for 69!

Yes, the guide does work on the PalTV box. You even get the guide for 69!Cool, thanks for the information! My new coupon should be here in another couple of weeks, so that's good news.

Now that DirecTV has a new satellite almost ready to fire up, does anybody know when our local HD may be turned on?

I encountered an interesting situation today that I think is only going to get far worse before it gets better. There was a woman on the buss today griping and complaining that she couldn't return a digital tuner she purchased at the local ABC Warehouse. She was bent because some of the channels she was getting before wasn't coming in for her anymore when she tried to "readjust it." She couldn't get her channels back either after the readjustment. She was going on and on about not very good with technology and that hooking it up shouldn't be so complicated. I tried to suggest to her that she may need to try an indoor antenna with an amp or an outdoor mid sized antenna. This didn't make any difference though, she's bound and determined that she's not going to bother with the box and just order cable. I think this is a trend that's only going to get worse.

On a positive note I think it will get much better after February next year. Until then, I think it's going to be a record year for cable in the next 6 months.

Anyone who finds connecting a converter too complicated is probably better off without a TV. :)

Anyone who finds connecting a converter too complicated is probably better off without a TV. :)

:D

Ditto

:D Maybe this was her TV antenna...

(note to self: time to buy stock in Reynolds...)

:D Maybe this was her TV antenna...

(note to self: time to buy stock in Reynolds...)

I've seen paper clips and coathangers.

CBS Evening News in HD
Was it WSBT's fault or CBS's that the first HD broadcast was all screwed up?
No sound sometimes.
Picture did not fill screen.
Blue Sidebars part time.
Seemed like when they tryed to turn on the HD the sound went out.

Did anyone else get the notice that south bend-elkhart will get locals in HD from Directv sometime between August and the end of the year. It is about time. The Sat D11 is fully operational but they do not say when our locals will be in HD. It will be before the end of the year though. Great!

DISH Network is making the same promises ... the race is on!

(BTW: To the DirecTV retailer with a booth full of DirecTV signs including signs on both sides of every monitor who was using DISH Network signals to sell service at the Elkhart County Fair last week ... shame on you! The guys didn't even have a DirecTV dish on site ... yet all the signage led people to believe it was a DirecTV signal on the screens!)

Here's a question for those of you in Michiana watching the local Digitals via Comcast. I was over at my brother's house this last weekend and he was watching the golf on ABC. Even though they have a Toshiba HD LCD, the picture was snowy. Well, no wonder; it was tuned to channel 7! Since I have read that others have picked up these stations via Comcast, I thought I'd be the helpful brother and get him set up with the HD locals. It didn't quite work out, and I got the "better not mess with the way my sister-in-law has the channels programmed in or else" lecture, so I stopped what I was doing.

Assuming that they ran the channel scan, should the TV report the HD locals the same as OTA? In other words, he could plug in 28-1 into the remote and up would come WSVJ-DT? Or, will they be shown with the Comcast channel #, in WSJV-DT's case, 190?

Here's a question for those of you in Michiana watching the local Digitals via Comcast. I was over at my brother's house this last weekend and he was watching the golf on ABC. Even though they have a Toshiba HD LCD, the picture was snowy. Well, no wonder; it was tuned to channel 7! Since I have read that others have picked up these stations via Comcast, I thought I'd be the helpful brother and get him set up with the HD locals. It didn't quite work out, and I got the "better not mess with the way my sister-in-law has the channels programmed in or else" lecture, so I stopped what I was doing.

Assuming that they ran the channel scan, should the TV report the HD locals the same as OTA? In other words, he could plug in 28-1 into the remote and up would come WSVJ-DT? Or, will they be shown with the Comcast channel #, in WSJV-DT's case, 190?

On my TivoHD, 28 scans in as 28-2. They would only get channel 190 with a Comcast set top box. My JVC TV has separate inputs for analog and digital; if you want digital cable channels you have to split the signal and connect to both inputs. Different brands work differently.
Yeah, it really bugs me when someone shows me their new HD set and they are watching stretched SD.

Did anyone else get the notice that south bend-elkhart will get locals in HD from Directv sometime between August and the end of the year. It is about time. The Sat D11 is fully operational but they do not say when our locals will be in HD. It will be before the end of the year though. Great!

Yes, I saw this info on dbstalk. Wonderful news, but it doesn't really matter to me as I pull in my HD locals via rooftop antenna.....

Anyone who finds connecting a converter too complicated is probably better off without a TV. :)

I hooked up a converter box for my elderly aunt and had it all set up. After I got done explaining that she needed to leave her converter box on the channel she wanted to record (she records one soap opera daily) before she turned off the t.v. for the night, she made me take the converter off and "put it back the way it was". She said I think I'll just wait until I can't watch "regular" t.v. anymore. She refuses to spend for a new t.v. with tuners in it, which I told her was her only other option other than giving up her t.v. come February. I said it's either you adapt or you can forget about it.

Forgive me for posting this computer question here but I need a local South Bend answer!

I am west of the airport 2 miles just off Edison road. I can only get Dial up on my computer and it is SLOW! Does anyone know of a wireless provider or a Satellite provider that services this area? Comcast & Michiana Wireless says it can't get service to my location.
Maybe a different way of getting high speed internet that I have not thought of?

Forgive me for posting this computer question here but I need a local South Bend answer!

I am west of the airport 2 miles just off Edison road. I can only get Dial up on my computer and it is SLOW! Does anyone know of a wireless provider or a Satellite provider that services this area? Comcast & Michiana Wireless says it can't get service to my location.
Maybe a different way of getting high speed internet that I have not thought of?

Can you get DSL through SBC?

Look here: http://www.dslreports.com/search

NO, DSL stops 1 mile east of me at the bypass.
I have tried everything I can think of without any luck!

Believe it or not, on a tropo event back on Monday, July 27, 2008, I managed to get WBND-LD with a 60% signal with a ChannelMaster 8-bay UHF antenna in my attic, a one story townhome pretty low close to a creek and river valley. I did it with a Zenith DTT-900 6th generation tuner...

...with only about 5 kw of power aimed my way, 60 miles WEST of CHICAGO! :eek:

So no more complaining that you can't get WBND here! ;):D

Out of curiousity, is AT&T offering U-Verse out there by you guys? They just launched in the Chicago area this year.

Forgive me for posting this computer question here but I need a local South Bend answer!

I am west of the airport 2 miles just off Edison road. I can only get Dial up on my computer and it is SLOW! Does anyone know of a wireless provider or a Satellite provider that services this area? Comcast & Michiana Wireless says it can't get service to my location.
Maybe a different way of getting high speed internet that I have not thought of?

Try Fourway.net, they are up on St.Rd 933.

Believe it or not, on a tropo event back on Monday, July 27, 2008, I managed to get WBND-LD with a 60% signal with a ChannelMaster 8-bay UHF antenna in my attic, a one story townhome pretty low close to a creek and river valley. I did it with a Zenith DTT-900 6th generation tuner...

...with only about 5 kw of power aimed my way, 60 miles WEST of CHICAGO! :eek:

So no more complaining that you can't get WBND here! ;):D

The tropo has been really good this past week. I have been getting FOX 59 Digital from Indianapolis and ABC21 Digital from Fort Wayne here in the La Porte/ Michigan City area this week.

Hi, All,

Need some ideas to deal with constant drop-outs that have started up in NBC (16.1) just as the Olympics are underway. (To make do, I've added Dish's non-HD locals, but I spent the last 14 months just fine with my OTA set-up, without paying for SD.)

I live in Granger, IN, 46530, and the antenna web info a year ago told that my key locals broadcast from about 10 miles South/Southwest of here. I called the station (WNDU) and they said nothing is different in their broadcasting lately. The TV indicates wildly fluctuating signal levels--one second it's 93, the next it's 80, the next it drops out, and then after regaining the signal, it all starts over. Meanwhile, my other locals come in and stay at 90-100.

My set-up is a Channel Master 4221A mounted on a single-story part of our roof. The antenna has always been pointed toward the cluster of broadcasting stations--aimed between a chimney to one side and the wall up to the second story roofline on the other--and reception was almost always fine. Maybe an added year of tree foliage is the problem? The antenna points right at a tree line considerably higher than the antenna itself and not more than forty feet away.

There really is no way to top that treeline, but I could possibly run the antenna up into the second story attic, which would then create a wood and shingle barrier, of course. Second story roof itself is not really an option, for neighborhood reasons.

Troubleshooting ideas?

David

Sorry to really go off topic here but.. I'm wondering what happened to all of the posts from 7-31 to today. I know I left a couple of posts this weekend, and Foxbat even replied to one of mine.

Well I'll try to recap what now appears missing from my point of view..

nikitangc left this message...

"Beginning on August 8th and extending throughout NBC’s special presentations of the 2008 Summer Olympics from Beijing, WNDU will maximize the performance of its High Definition channel 16.1 by eliminating the 16.2 standard definition simulcast for the entire duration. Some viewers’ sets may display a blank screen if tuned to channel 16.2 during this period.


- George Molnar
Chief Engineer, WNDU-TV"

I had commented before that post how I thought it seemed that the opening ceremony for the Olympics looked great.. Then after that post I begged WNDU to please consider not putting the SD channel back.

I also had slightly went off topic about how I'm proud that the company I work for (Crown) has a huge part in the olympics this year. Perhaps it was the link I left to the WSBT news segment that prompted the removal of nearly the entire weekends post.. So I'll just say that a lot of the venues (namely the Bird's Nest) is loaded with Crown's amps. So any of that jammin' back ground audio you hear during the games is probably our amps. :)

Well anyway I'm not sure if my posts are gone due to moderation, but it seems odd that
nikitangc's post was also removed. If anything were wrong with my post, I would have thought there would have been a PM from a moderator or something.

Hi, All,

Need some ideas to deal with constant drop-outs that have started up in NBC (16.1) just as the Olympics are underway. (To make do, I've added Dish's non-HD locals, but I spent the last 14 months just fine with my OTA set-up, without paying for SD.)

I live in Granger, IN, 46530, and the antenna web info a year ago told that my key locals broadcast from about 10 miles South/Southwest of here. I called the station (WNDU) and they said nothing is different in their broadcasting lately. The TV indicates wildly fluctuating signal levels--one second it's 93, the next it's 80, the next it drops out, and then after regaining the signal, it all starts over. Meanwhile, my other locals come in and stay at 90-100.

My set-up is a Channel Master 4221A mounted on a single-story part of our roof. The antenna has always been pointed toward the cluster of broadcasting stations--aimed between a chimney to one side and the wall up to the second story roofline on the other--and reception was almost always fine. Maybe an added year of tree foliage is the problem? The antenna points right at a tree line considerably higher than the antenna itself and not more than forty feet away.

There really is no way to top that treeline, but I could possibly run the antenna up into the second story attic, which would then create a wood and shingle barrier, of course. Second story roof itself is not really an option, for neighborhood reasons.

Troubleshooting ideas?

David

Just saying me too.. All was great until last night, then WNDU started dropping out on me real bad OTA. I switched over to my cable box and watched the games in HD there same channel and it was fine. Seems to be an OTA thing.

Well anyway I'm not sure if my posts are gone due to moderation, but it seems odd that
nikitangc's post was also removed. If anything were wrong with my post, I would have thought there would have been a PM from a moderator or something.

See the forum home page.

AVS Forum Community:

On the morning of August 11, AVS Forum suffered a major failure in the database and backup storage. As such, we have no choice but to recover from August 2nd.

This represents tens of thousands of lost posts and new threads for the last week. There is nothing we can do about it at this time but move forward. We are sorry about the loss and will work to be sure this does not happen again. We are as upset about this as you may be, more than likely even more.

Regretfully,

AVS Forum

See the forum home page.


Oh! Since it wasn't a moderation thing, I'll share that link to that news segment about our amps at the summer games. A lot of our blood sweat and tears went into these things. I had always wanted to be a part of the Olympics and through Crown found a way to be a part of the games indirectly. So yeah, this means a lot to me not just as a Crown employee, but on a very personal level as well.

http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/26427349.html

WNDU 16.1 has been dropping out alot for me also in the last 24 hours. This is the only local channel I see dropouts on. I really do not want to mess with the antenna because I got it set just right months ago and everything has been coming in solid until the past 24 hours with WNDU.

It is amazing how much is said in a week ... even in a slow thread like this one. Looks like we also lost the purchase of Weigel's LPs by WSBT.

For the record: http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/26250049.html
Chicago, IL and South Bend, IN – Weigel Broadcast Co. and WSBT, Inc. announced Monday that they have signed an agreement under which WSBT Inc. will purchase the assets of the three Weigel low-power television stations serving South Bend: WBND (ABC), WCWW (CW) and WMYS (MyNetworkTV). The transaction is subject to regulatory approvals and is expected to be completed in the fourth quarter of 2008.

Satsince1978:

FWIW, I live out in LaPaz and we've had HughesNet for 11 years (formerly DirecWay, formerly DirecPC). It's not totally awesome, but the service has come a long, long way since the early days... and it sure beats dialup. With the small office plan ($99/mo - GIANT dish - 2 watt transmitter - no rain fade, ever) my real-world speeds are typically 1,100k down and 300k up.

[QUOTE=Bada Bing;14421484]Hi, All,

"Need some ideas to deal with constant drop-outs that have started up in NBC (16.1) just as the Olympics are underway. The TV indicates wildly fluctuating signal levels--one second it's 93, the next it's 80, the next it drops out, and then after regaining the signal, it all starts over. Meanwhile, my other locals come in and stay at 90-100."

Almost Identical to what I have experienced on the North East Side of Elkhart. The key point is that ALL the other digital stations generally do *not* exhibit this constant fluctuation except WNDU.

Well, I tried the cheap fix. Purchased a 5 foot mast to boost the ant height and a 22db mast mounted amp - from Menard's of all places. I figured if I was getting multi-path that a small ant move might get me out of the path and cannot go wrong with a 22db boost.

The cheap solution worked for me (about $30). WNDU now comes in 96-98 strength 90% of the time and when it has it "drop out fits", signal now hovers around 70-80. Before that, the level would drop into the weak zone so I would experience the drop outs as you have. Boosting the signal at the ant seems to have gotten me out of the "weak peaks" and now have been drop out free on WNDU since the Olympics started. BTW, all the other stations are now showing similar improvements.

PS. adding a splitter causes weaker signals also. Not sure how many line amps you can put on a line without boosting the noise levels to a point of causing glitches. I'm using only the ant amp and a long feed of r6.

thanks for the suggestions I might try something but I usually have very good signals, but I am always looking for something better.

Quoted: "Almost Identical to what I have experienced on the North East Side of Elkhart. The key point is that ALL the other digital stations generally do *not* exhibit this constant fluctuation except WNDU."

Thanks. Interesting to hear that others have this WNDU problem. It will be a while before I can change my set-up, so I'll just have to suffer through it meanwhile.

Boy, it was really bad watching the Olympics last night after midnight. I couldn't tell if it was WNDU or the national feed causing the black screens; half picture, half digital noise; the screeches in the audio, etc.

Also, something that I've observed on my 1920x1080 Toshiba: if I set it to 1:1 pixel mapping, there is a 1-2 pixel wide yellow line down the lefthand border of the screen. I see this only on the 1080i NBC feeds, so again, it's difficult to say whether it's WNDU or NBC that is causing this line. If I set the screen to Overscan, the line vanishes (natch) along with 2-3% of the picture.

I've heard the complaint about the yellow line on other forums, which leads me to believe it's an NBC problem.

- Trip

I've heard the complaint about the yellow line on other forums, which leads me to believe it's an NBC problem.

- TripTrip,
Thanks for the feedback. That's probably one of those things that nobody at NBC has noticed, or maybe they want it there for some reason.:confused:

No, they sure don't.

WNDU has got to be the most craptastic channel in the midwest. What a joke...

Have you seen WLUC-TV and the 1950's rainbow 6 logo? Google that. You'll gain a new appreciation for WNDU.

...but they do have the strongest signal out of the S.B. market. I can't even get WSJV. Sometimes I get WSBT over the lake, but WNDU is usually pretty good. Hey, WSBT-DT, when going back to channel 22, can you bump your power up to the level of WNDU? That would be great for Colts games. Thanks.

According to their updated form 387 and web-site, WNIT shut down their analog transmitter on June 5th. While doing some checking on this, I was reviewing the Wiki entry for WNIT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNIT_(TV)

I had to read this comment a few times:

As South Bend is a "UHF island," cable and satellite are all but essential for good reception in this market.

Perhaps things are different in South Bend, but I have found UHF to provide a much better picture than VHF on analog and UHF has performed very well for DTV.

Is this comment just a throwback to the UHF = 2nd rate days or am I missing something?

I checked the Nielsen data and South Bend is reported to be about 80% cable/satellite, which is lower than the national average:

http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/markettrack/archivebymarket.asp?marketid=177

According to DirecTV, the South Bend-Elkhart LiL HDTV locals should available in September.

nikitangc left this message...

"Beginning on August 8th and extending throughout NBC’s special presentations of the 2008 Summer Olympics from Beijing, WNDU will maximize the performance of its High Definition channel 16.1 by eliminating the 16.2 standard definition simulcast for the entire duration. Some viewers’ sets may display a blank screen if tuned to channel 16.2 during this period.


- George Molnar
Chief Engineer, WNDU-TV"

I had commented before that post how I thought it seemed that the opening ceremony for the Olympics looked great.. Then after that post I begged WNDU to please consider not putting the SD channel back.Obviously, you didn't beg hard enough... ;) 16-2 is back in all of its SD glory :p

I forget, what was WNDU's business reason for running the SD version of the HD feed?

Obviously, you didn't beg hard enough... ;) 16-2 is back in all of its SD glory :p

I forget, what was WNDU's business reason for running the SD version of the HD feed?

Are there digital tuners that only read SD digital sources? Because that could be a possible explanation, though I'd say there would such a small fraction of people using it that it's almost pointless.

Are there digital tuners that only read SD digital sources? Because that could be a possible explanation, though I'd say there would such a small fraction of people using it that it's almost pointless.

They all read 8VSB signals. To block a video/audio PID over a certain bitrate would be ungodly costly to the manufacturer and pointless.

Anybody using a Winegard HD76xxP series antenna out there? Any reviews?

They all read 8VSB signals. To block a video/audio PID over a certain bitrate would be ungodly costly to the manufacturer and pointless.

I don't know much about it, but I was just thinking that some decoders might not have the hardware to be able to decode the higher bitrates/resolutions, or if they do, maybe not have good enough hardware to scale them down to SD resolutions for an SD monitor.

Is 57-1 off of the air or do I have a problem?

Is 57-1 off of the air or do I have a problem?

Working fine for me at 8:50 pm.

Anybody else notice that Ellen was supposed to be broadcast in HD today but wasn't HD on WNDU?

I wonder what that was about.

Anybody else notice that Ellen was supposed to be broadcast in HD today but wasn't HD on WNDU?

I wonder what that was about.

Wasn't in Chicago either.

Is anyone having trouble with 46-1 WHME?

I know this is a petty thing, but it drives me crazy to not know the answer. Every episode of Big Brother on 22.1 WSBT has a 2-3 minute segment when the houseguests speak on tape to the evicted houseguest. This section in the show is not at the same time each show, but the picture blocks out like a bad signal loss and audio cuts out. I thought it might be my DVR (Dish) but we just watched it live and it just did it again. Has anyone else experienced this?

It has something to do with the graphics when they're showing multiple people in their own frames.

@carlpa: I'm missing 46-1, too. My Toshiba Regza dropped it from the channel list tonight.

I've noticed that 22-1 has had a number of image break-up problems. I saw it Sunday during the football pregame, too.

I noticed that 22-1 (WSBT) had picture break up issues every 30 seconds to a minute during the football game sunday also. I was watching via comcast and am not sure if it's a comcast or wsbt issue?

Anyone care to shed any light on this issue?

I see the problems on WSBT-DT over the air, so Comcast is not at fault (this time ;))

WHME-DT is off the air due to a transmission line burnout. It occured Monday evening during the storm. Lightning is the prime suspect at this time. Riggers have opened the line at several places and it appears that the entire line will need to be replaced. It will be off till at least early next week.

WHME-DT is off the air due to a transmission line burnout. It occured Monday evening during the storm. Lightning is the prime suspect at this time. Riggers have opened the line at several places and it appears that the entire line will need to be replaced. It will be off till at least early next week.

Yuck. =( My question would be, is it even worth replacing? I know WHME is trying to win permission to put their final digital on channel 46 instead of their current channel 48, and should be granted very soon. Wouldn't it make more sense to just leave the digital silent for now and flash-cut? Or does the equipment have to get replaced either way?

- Trip

Yuck. =( My question would be, is it even worth replacing? I know WHME is trying to win permission to put their final digital on channel 46 instead of their current channel 48, and should be granted very soon. Wouldn't it make more sense to just leave the digital silent for now and flash-cut? Or does the equipment have to get replaced either way?

- Trip

It's a complicated question. Insurance? Very old analog tx? Much better quality of DTV signal (never did stereo on analog). You're right that our ultimate plan is back to 46 at a higher power. The line we're replacing is not usable on ch 46 so it becomes useless for that. One 20 foot section of line is over $2,000 and we need 50. People at higher pay levels than me make these decisions and I'm glad for that.

hvs10trk, I've noticed that none of your stations have PSIP EPG data. 25-1, 57-1, and 69-1 all show "No Information" when I press the display or Info buttons.

And the clocks are still off, but you knew I was going to say that, didn't you?

hvs10trk, I've noticed that none of your stations have PSIP EPG data. 25-1, 57-1, and 69-1 all show "No Information" when I press the display or Info buttons.

And the clocks are still off, but you knew I was going to say that, didn't you?

Interresting. I will check into the EPG. As for the time.......ehhhh thats a different story.

I remember talk not all to long about that WSBT either is or did acquire the local Weigel stations in the South Bend market. I've heard of some tv stations in some markets that have been broadcasting the radio stations they also own on a sub channel. I wonder if WSBT might do this too?

Before the DB disk crash wiped out AVS, I had made the suggestion that WSBT could move the SBT2 and StormTracker program streams over to WYMS-LD (no HD) and return WSBT-DT to full 19.3 Mbps goodness. I'd rather see that than radio channels over the TV.

I think WSBT did simulcast Sunny 101 way back in the early days of WSBT-DT.

I saw on the Directv tv listings that local channels wndu and wsjv were listed twice and had HD after some programs. Nothing for wsbt, wbnd or wcww. Does this mean that only two of these channels are being picked up in south bend this week in HDTV??

I see WNIT is also listed.
There could be a problem with WSBT and WBND showing up on Directv when the South Bend HD locals are added.
Schurz, which owns both stations, is playing hardball with Directv when it comes to adding their HD stations.
The last time I checked, Directv's Local Receive Facility for SD was at WSBT, and the LRF for HD was located at WNDU.

Does anyone know when Dish Network will have HD locals for SB up?

I saw on the Directv tv listings that local channels wndu and wsjv were listed twice and had HD after some programs. Nothing for wsbt, wbnd or wcww. Does this mean that only two of these channels are being picked up in south bend this week in HDTV??

How can I find this Information on the internet?

How can I find this Information on the internet?
It's on the Directv web site. Click on TV Schedule at the top, then TV listings.
Then enter your zip code.
http://directv.com/DTVAPP/index.jsp

Edit: I see on another forum that WNDU and WSJV HD are on Directv this morning.

It's on the Directv web site. Click on TV Schedule at the top, then TV listings.
Then enter your zip code.
http://directv.com/DTVAPP/index.jsp

Edit: I see on another forum that WNDU and WSJV HD are on Directv this morning.

Yeah, It's a bummer, but at least we have those channels and eventually the rest of them will get turned on. I have an antenna on top of the house, so I get the local HD channels already anyway, just wanted them for the other DVR in the house that doesn't have an antenna hooked up to it....

Depending on who you talk to, either Schurz or DirecTV is playing hardball and wanting a single deal for all the stations owned by Schurz. I've heard some people say it's Schurz who's holding it up, and others who say DirecTV is trying to push a small station owner around. I don't really know enough about it to say either way who's telling the truth.

- Trip

Does anyone know when Dish Network will have HD locals for SB up?

You could just keep checking back here:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml

I don't see anything for the SB/Elkhart area yet....

According to this website, http://mstv.org/docs/satschedalpha.pdf
looks like not until October, but it also said we wouldn't get it on DirecTV until late October and we got some today. Maybe they mean we won't have all of them until late October....

hvs10trk, any info on 5.1 for ABC & CW yet? I really wish I could watch my Smallville and Lost with 5.1 sound. All the other shows I watch have 5.1.

Schurz owns stations in 6 markets and at least 4 or 5 of those markets have Directv HD locals. The only HD station they own that is carried by Directv is in Anchorage, AK.
If Weigel still owned WBND, there probably wouldn't have been an agreement with them either.
The last I heard, Weigel and Directv haven't reached an agreement for their CBS station in Milwaukee.

Schurz owns stations in 6 markets and at least 4 or 5 of those markets have Directv HD locals. The only HD station they own that is carried by Directv is in Anchorage, AK.
If Weigel still owned WBND, there probably wouldn't have been an agreement with them either.
The last I heard, Weigel and Directv haven't reached an agreement for their CBS station in Milwaukee.

From what I have seen at another web site, only one owned station, in Witchita, is on DTVHD. That would leave me to believe that Shurtz is the one holding out. I can get CBS and ABC off my antenna from both South Bend and Ft Wayne so I guess this weekend I will be moving it towards Ft Wayne.

You could just keep checking back here:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/locals/channels/index.shtml

I don't see anything for the SB/Elkhart area yet....



South Bend was on that list a few weeks ago. I can't say I'm very impressed with DISH right now.

I can pick up all of the local digital channels with my Zenith DTT900 converter box clearly....

I saw on the Directv tv listings that local channels wndu and wsjv were listed twice and had HD after some programs. Nothing for wsbt, wbnd or wcww. Does this mean that only two of these channels are being picked up in south bend this week in HDTV??That's good news. I'm pretty ticked at DISH Network for not beating DirecTV to market in South Bend ... they may be having the same issues as DirecTV with contracts and be less willing to launch two instead of all.

The good news is I want WBND ABC HD ... so I'm not missing much. :D

OTA is good but via satellite gives more recording options.

Interresting. I will check into the EPG. As for the time.......ehhhh thats a different story.I see that your efforts have paid off, hvs10trk. The EPG data for your stations is back! Thank you!

Speaking of back, WHME-DT is back on the air, too.

I heard the audio fizzle out again last night during Smallville. Luckily is was during a part with subtitles, but we're not always so lucky. Is that going to be fixed any time soon? Also still wondering about the 5.1 sound?

I heard the audio fizzle out again last night during Smallville. Luckily is was during a part with subtitles, but we're not always so lucky. Is that going to be fixed any time soon? Also still wondering about the 5.1 sound?

I noticed the same. I recorded Smallville ATSC OTA as I normally do. I guess if there's going to be an annoying audio artifact, it may as well be during the subtitles. LOL :)

WSBT is having picture break up issues during the Colts-Jaguars game again today. At least they switched over to the SD feed.

Anyone know what the issue is with WSBT having these issues for the last few months?

WSBT is having picture break up issues during the Colts-Jaguars game again today. At least they switched over to the SD feed.

Anyone know what the issue is with WSBT having these issues for the last few months?

HD is now back (5:08pm ET)

WSBT is having picture break up issues during the Colts-Jaguars game again today. At least they switched over to the SD feed.

Anyone know what the issue is with WSBT having these issues for the last few months?

I saw a constant focus and out-of-focus on WSBT during the game also. I guess they're new to HD or something.... working out the bugs still?

I wish I was paying attention to the time when it happened but.. I heard the same fizzle sound during the Emmy's tonight.. Looks like 57-1 is cursed with this annoying audio problem too.

WSBT is having picture break up issues during the Colts-Jaguars game again today. At least they switched over to the SD feed.

Anyone know what the issue is with WSBT having these issues for the last few months?

I tried to locate a blog on the WSBT website regarding technical difficulties, but came up empty handed. Here are some contacts listed on their website:

Bob Johnson
Operations/Programming Director
johnson@wsbt.com

C. Eugene Hale
Chief Engineer
hale@wsbt.com

As an FYI to those interested... Dish network had uplinked the south bend locals since early summer which is normal for a period prior to being available to subscribers. The latest line on availability was Fall 08. ( the latest televised customer chat held by Dish even had an error in a graphic that showed the south bend market as active )

anyway... last week Dish took down those uplinks, along with those of several other markets not yet available but seemingly ready to go.

no one is quite sure what this means, as no announcemnt has been made, and its odd to pull down already uplinked HD locals for several announced markets.

my source for all this info is the dish network forum at http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/

During a tropo event Monday night WBND Digital went off and then NBC24's Digital from Toledo started coming in. I am west of South Bend so this was pretty interesting. If anyone had reception issues it may have been related to the atmospheric conditions. I hope when analog shuts off next year some of these interference issues could be resolved.

Talking about TROPO!
Back about two months ago, channel 28 went off the air for a few minutes and a very weak analog station came in. Had to wait for the station to ID on the hour and when they did it said WBRE Wilkes-Barre (PA).
I thought that was neat!

I noticed that Directv had channels 80 for CBS and 86 for ABC avialable last night, pending our locals being added.

I've noticed that WMYS-LD has been off the air a lot lately. It's gone again right now.

12:31: It's back on.

I've noticed that WMYS-LD has been off the air a lot lately. It's gone again right now.

12:31: It's back on.

Yeah, so have I. :(

I finally got around to watching Survivor on 22-1. To be honest, I was a bit disappointed in the HD presentation. What I expected was the same kind of clean visuals you would expect from shows like PBS's Nature in HD.. Instead what I saw appeared dark washed out and grainy. I'm not sure if CBS is broadcasting it that way, or if WSBT wasn't giving it enough bandwidth.. I did see quite a bit of pixelation which was an unpleasant surprise. Granted this still all looks better than it did in the SD format, but to me this broadcast isn't up to par with similar content on other channels.

I finally got around to watching Survivor on 22-1. To be honest, I was a bit disappointed in the HD presentation. What I expected was the same kind of clean visuals you would expect from shows like PBS's Nature in HD.. Instead what I saw appeared dark washed out and grainy. I'm not sure if CBS is broadcasting it that way, or if WSBT wasn't giving it enough bandwidth.. I did see quite a bit of pixelation which was an unpleasant surprise. Granted this still all looks better than it did in the SD format, but to me this broadcast isn't up to par with similar content on other channels.

I watched the season premiere here in Chicago and it looked good here. Not sure if I'm crazy of the 24p look but hey its in HD finally.

What is the 24p look?
Jim

What is the 24p look?
Jim

I'd venture to guess he meant 24 FPS, not P. 24FPS is typical for 1080p on plasma sets.

I'd venture to guess he meant 24 FPS, not P. 24FPS is typical for 1080p on plasma sets.

Some screens have 24p mode (technically 120hz, so each frame is repeated 5 times) but no channel actually broadcasts in 24p, I think he just meant the look of 24p film. The original 24p recordings get upconverted to either 30i or 60p depending on the channel.

Most primetime TV shows are filmed in this format, though others (such as talk shows, news, game shows, reality) are usually filmed in 30i or 60p video.

Some screens have 24p mode (technically 120hz, so each frame is repeated 5 times) but no channel actually broadcasts in 24p, I think he just meant the look of 24p film. The original 24p recordings get upconverted to either 30i or 60p depending on the channel.

Most primetime TV shows are filmed in this format, though others (such as talk shows, news, game shows, reality) are usually filmed in 30i or 60p video.

You got it. :D

when is wsbt local news going HD?

When they move to the new studios?

When is the WSBT move to the new studios to take place?

It looks like WBND-LD, WMYS-LD, and WCWW-LD are missing their PSIP program data again.

Somebody told me that I should use a RF Modulator to get a signal from equipment in the living room to the kitchen. What is a good one and where do I get one?

Somebody told me that I should use a RF Modulator to get a signal from equipment in the living room to the kitchen. What is a good one and where do I get one?

I use an old VCR with AV inputs to modulate my signal and watch it in the bedroom. Radio Shack and Walmart both have modulators, I don't know how high quality they are.

It looks like WBND-LD, WMYS-LD, and WCWW-LD are missing their PSIP program data again.

Thanks for the catch Foxbat. Was missing here in Chi-town too. Should be fine now.

Thanks for the catch Foxbat. Was missing here in Chi-town too. Should be fine now.

My brother lives in Mishawaka and told me today he still see's these channels as being an hour off. Just FYI. He's using one of those spiffy new DTV Pals by the way.

My brother lives in Mishawaka and told me today he still see's these channels as being an hour off. Just FYI. He's using one of those spiffy new DTV Pals by the way.

We're well aware.

We're well aware.Which is why I don't nag you about it. :D

Speaking of the DTV Pal, I picked up the TR-40 (the $40 version of the DTV Pal) and it has the ability to tune to a given program with scheduled event timers. That timer will be an hour+ late if the TR-40/DTV Pal is tuned to a Weigel channel, negating the usefulness of this feature. Maybe it will be "okay" in November when DST ends.

Which is why I don't nag you about it. :D



Ummm I didn't mean to nag, I just didn't know it was still an issue until my brother reminded me of it. I'm completely unaffected anyway because I use both my Windows Media Center EPG and my cable box EPG anyway. It's all good. :)

Perhaps WSBT will know what time it is in South Bend when they take over. :D
I'm assuming operations will move to Douglas Rd and the STL will be a "little" shorter? :)
(That should be the $22 million solution to the problem.)

22.2 has gospel music running on the channel as loud or louder than Matlock audio! What gives? :confused:

Ummm I didn't mean to nag, I just didn't know it was still an issue until my brother reminded me of it.Well, I do mean to nag, but I also know that hvs10trk & Co. know what they're doing. Whether or not it gets fixed before Schurz takes over the reigns is the question. The petition filed protesting the sale (http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6598265.html?industryid=47169) may well postpone that.

Well, I do mean to nag, but I also know that hvs10trk & Co. know what they're doing. Whether or not it gets fixed before Schurz takes over the reigns is the question. The petition filed protesting the sale (http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6598265.html?industryid=47169) may well postpone that.

Thanks for the link. I've been looking for info on that.

Ha! After all this time getting after hvs10trk about the PSIP EPG data, now WSJV-DT is showing up as "No Information Available". I wonder if there are any members from WSJV here?Thanks for the link. I've been looking for info on that.You're welcome. I read it in the South Bend Tribune, but for some reason it didn't come up right away on Google. I was able to coax it out eventually.

Thanks for the link. I've been looking for info on that.I'll second the thanks ... I saw the mention of a petition on the FCC site but had not seen the basis of the petition.

Is anyone else experiencing audio sync problems on WNBD-DT tonight? The audio seems like it's 1/2 to 3/4 second behind the visual. Very distracting.

Yes ... Pushing Daisies even had a blank spot in the broadcast. :(

Yes I have noticed it before also, last week on Boston Legal, and again last night on Private Practice.

Yes ... Pushing Daisies even had a blank spot in the broadcast. :(

Blank spot?????:confused:

Blank spot?????:confused:More of a green screen for about a minute? I didn't keep the recording. It may have been in the link via DISH Network but it didn't appear to be the typical "signal loss" error and the other local I was watching at the time had no glitch.

What the heck happened with tonight's smallville? First 10 minutes or so was a blank screen with audio only. I'm going to have to download it somewhere, I'm not watching a blank screen.

Not only that but when the video finally came back, the audio got choppy so you missed a bunch of the dialog.
I'm getting tired of missing shows because of what passes for our CW station. :mad:

What the heck happened with tonight's smallville? First 10 minutes or so was a blank screen with audio only. I'm going to have to download it somewhere, I'm not watching a blank screen.

I don't know how often The CW updates their full episode pages, but you can catch Smallville here (http://cwtv.com/cw-video/smallville/full). On the other hand if you have an Xbox 360 or iTunes account you can catch it on either one of them, or even Amazon's video download service.

What the heck happened with tonight's smallville? First 10 minutes or so was a blank screen with audio only. I'm going to have to download it somewhere, I'm not watching a blank screen.I recorded the OTA HD feed last night and had not watched it yet ... 12 min of solid black then when it finally came on it was "postage stamp" SD upconverted on the HD feed (with bars all around). 100 seconds (or so) later a commercial break with "HD" starting at 16 minutes in (after the commercials).

Makes that DISH Network subscription to SuperStation WPIX worthwhile. WCWW has been doing well on Smallville for the past few weeks (one small glitch in the middle of the program each week) but 12 minutes black air is embarrassing.

Now all we have to do is get DISH to get the locals going in HD ... which does not appear to be very soon. :(

As I mentioned earlier, there are some good alternatives to getting Smallville online should a little glitch like the one last night happens again. LOL

I accidentally bought last weeks episode on the Xbox 360 (oops!) but found the quality to be unbearably bad.. Then I moved on to Amazon and I got to say for online streaming, not bad at all! You still have the option to download, but why? I have to say I'm very impressed with the quality of Amazon's revamped video service. This may be my new destination to go to for when bad things happen to my favorite shows like 10 minutes of hurt. LOL

Here's the link to Smallville on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001IL1AMW/ref=atv_dp_series?ie=UTF8&redirect=true

Supernatural's audio had horrible popping also for the first half until they switched to SD then it was ok, but no HD :(

Supernatural's audio had horrible popping also for the first half until they switched to SD then it was ok, but no HD :(

Everybody Hates Cris had the popping also, local ads were OK.

Everybody Hates Cris had the popping also, local ads were OK.

Anyone know if the feed over comcast is having the same problems?

I see WNDU isn't stretching 16.1 today.

I see WNDU isn't stretching 16.1 today.

Nice, hopefully it will stay that way.

WNDU's HD feed's quality is unacceptable. I don't know if it's because of the multiple digital channels they have or a bad encoder or what but sometimes their quality is horrible. It's usually okay during slow moving scenes but fast moving scenes look horrible.

Example:
http://i36.tinypic.com/993qd2.jpg

EDIT: Could it be Comcast's feed that's causing this? Other channels are fine.

Anyone know if the feed over comcast is having the same problems?

Yes it would be over Comcast too. Is it happening during commercials?

Yes it would be over Comcast too. Is it happening during commercials?

It did it again last night during Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill. And it was doing it during the commercials.

Edit: Local Commercials are fine. National commercials are messed up.

It did it again last night during Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill. And it was doing it during the commercials.

Edit: Local Commercials are fine. National commercials are messed up.

Excellent. I've been eyeing our CW HD receiver. I may be able to remedy that. I'll post when I swap 'em out to see if that fixes the problem.

Excellent. I've been eyeing our CW HD receiver. I may be able to remedy that. I'll post when I swap 'em out to see if that fixes the problem.

You'll be my (and my wife's) hero. :D

You'll be my (and my wife's) hero. :D

Considering all of the problems I've had with watching Smallville, he'll be my hero too! Alright HVS, go get your cape and tights! Superman watch out!

Considering all of the problems I've had with watching Smallville, he'll be my hero too! Alright HVS, go get your cape and tights! Superman watch out!

I think my wife has a pair somewhere. :eek:

hvs10trk ; I notice WBND has removed the "ABC 57" bug off of local programming.

hvs10trk ; I notice WBND has removed the "ABC 57" bug off of local programming.

Yeah, the video/audio in/out card was causing seizures to the video anytime there was fast movement. We're replacing it with something a bit more stable. :eek:

22.1 was pixelating alot during Ghost Whisperer.

Overheard today at HONKERS in Mishawaka that WSBT-TV will be in the new studio November First. Anyone else hear this rumor??

Overheard today at HONKERS in Mishawaka that WSBT-TV will be in the new studio November First. Anyone else hear this rumor??

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081023/News01/810230123/1129/News

WSBT Radio begins broadcasting from Mishawaka
ByMEGAN BALDINO
WSBT-TV Reporter

MISHAWAKA — WSBT Radio began broadcasting live from its new facility on Douglas Road in Mishawaka on Thursday.

Sunny 101.5, Cat Country 99.9 and News Talk 960 WSBT all broadcast from their new studios.

Jack Reichert of Sunny 101.5 got a loud cheer and applause from radio staff as he began his Lunchtime '70s Show.

Reichert said he was very nervous.

"You know how it feels? It feels like I'm back in college and my first day on the air again, because as you can see this is all brand new equipment," he explained.

Jim Roberts, program director and operations manager for the WSBT Radio Group, said Thursday's broadcast was exciting ... and a big relief. "We've been working on this for 2 1/2 years," he said.

Roberts said the building offers state-of-the-art broadcasting facilities.

"This is really most special to the employees at WSBT Radio. This is a beautiful building, brand new equipment, we are very fortunate," he added.

WSBT Radio first broadcast out of the South Bend Tribune building in the 1920s, then moved to the facility on Jefferson in the 1950s. Radio and TV have been there ever since.

"The expectation is that anyone listening won't know the difference whether we are at our old building or new building. They shouldn't hear anything different, we hope," Roberts said.

WSBT-TV will be moving to the new television broadcast facility in November, where the staff will begin broadcasting in high definition

I watched Smallville last night and heard clicking noises through out the entire episode. I'm not sure if it was just that something went wrong with my recording or not. This occurred even through out the commercials.

Excellent. I've been eyeing our CW HD receiver. I may be able to remedy that. I'll post when I swap 'em out to see if that fixes the problem.

I watched Smallville last night and heard clicking noises through out the entire episode. I'm not sure if it was just that something went wrong with my recording or not. This occurred even through out the commercials.

Hopefully it will not be too much longer.

Just a note. 28-1 signal erratic tonight. Cannot watch world Series in HD DTV too many freeze frames and signal drop outs. 28-1 has been perfect in my location until tonight. All other local stations DTV signals are OK, even 28.0 analog is solid (watching 28.0 analog low def instead on same HDTV tuner and antenna).

Verified same problem on another TV with Insignia converter using bow tie antenna. My location is north far east side of Elkhart by Martins Supermarket. Only environmental change today is the wind? Something amiss?

With the high winds in our area tonight, I wouldn't be surprised that a UHF channel at the top of the frequency range would be affected by trees being blown about. I saw this a lot when the local stations were running at lower power years ago, but two things changed: higher ERPs; and we had the tree nearest our UHF antenna cut down.

I've ordered a part that should fix the audio problem during CW HD programming. It will possibly be a couple of days before it's delivered. Once it's here it will be a quick swap out and (hopefully) no more problems.

Glad to hear the CW HD audio problem is being resolved that has been going on for two weeks now and was bugging the hell out of me.

On a side note anyone else notice the last two Law & Order SVU episodes on 16-1 OTA were shown in a horrible SD quality with a black box all the way around it. Not sure what's going on with WNDU but Heroes and their other shows aren't like that.

I've ordered a part that should fix the audio problem during CW HD programming. It will possibly be a couple of days before it's delivered. Once it's here it will be a quick swap out and (hopefully) no more problems.

This is great news! I hope this takes care of that on going problem with the audio going out and crackling during Smallville as well. I have my fingers crossed. :)

http://www.wndu.com/blogs/insidewndu/33461734.html

Dish Network has acknowledged a problem in their satellite equipment affecting the audio levels of local South Bend stations like WNDU.

A Dish Network technician has temporarily boosted WNDU’s loudness, but was not able to say when their repairs would become permanent.

Looks like we're going to run in SD mode for a little while. It's taking a little longer than expected to get the necessary replacement parts.

Looks like we're going to run in SD mode for a little while. It's taking a little longer than expected to get the necessary replacement parts.

How much longer? Heck I'd prefer the popping sound to SD.

How much longer? Heck I'd prefer the popping sound to SD.

Actually my sound system and sanity thanks him. That popping sound is not good for your speakers at all. However it looks like I'll have to enjoy Smallville online again for another week. I'm just glad the whole thing is being resolved.

Looks like we're going to run in SD mode for a little while. It's taking a little longer than expected to get the necessary replacement parts.

Looks like it could be Thursday before HD is back on 25.1. :( Apparently overnighting an in-stock item takes a week. Go figure. :mad:

Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

If only WSVJ were so engaged with this Forum. It would be nice to know what their problem was with the NFL games this Sunday.

If only WSVJ were so engaged with this Forum. It would be nice to know what their problem was with the NFL games this Sunday.

and the problems are continuing tonight too. :mad:

actually my feed from directv is also in SD :confused:

Looks like it could be Thursday before HD is back on 25.1. :( Apparently overnighting an in-stock item takes a week. Go figure. :mad:

Think it will be up by the time smallville is on?

If only WSVJ were so engaged with this Forum. It would be nice to know what their problem was with the NFL games this Sunday.

I just watched Terminator The Sarah Connor Chronicles in standard def on 28's HD channel. Wow I hope this doesn't become a trend and all the other locals decide to just go SD. LOL

Think it will be up by the time smallville is on?

Lets hope so.

Bad part has been replaced. Keep your fingers crossed for flawless audio tonight.

Hey hvs10trk, I wanted you to know that I appreciate the fact that all my local DTV stations are showing the same time! If you don't mind me asking, what was the fix?

I saw the weirdest thing tonight on my Toshiba and my Dish TR-40. WWCW-HD had the program information of the Fox programming that was on WSJV-HD. WSJV-HD had no PSIP data for their channel, but I assume that's because of the hardware failure.

I saw the weirdest thing tonight on my Toshiba and my Dish TR-40. WWCW-HD had the program information of the Fox programming that was on WSJV-HD. WSJV-HD had no PSIP data for their channel, but I assume that's because of the hardware failure.

Don't think I could do that at my end if I tried. :eek:

Hey hvs10trk, I wanted you to know that I appreciate the fact that all my local DTV stations are showing the same time! If you don't mind me asking, what was the fix?

Long story......really long story. :eek:

I saw the weirdest thing tonight on my Toshiba and my Dish TR-40. WWCW-HD had the program information of the Fox programming that was on WSJV-HD. WSJV-HD had no PSIP data for their channel, but I assume that's because of the hardware failure.

OTA or other provider?

I get all my locals OTA. (Dish Network via satellite EPG for these stations had the "right" EPG data, but I'm not sure where they get the Program Guide data that they use. TV Guide?)

I just fired up my Dish TR-40 (Dish's coupon-eligible DTV Converter.) Right now, it says that 025-01 WCWW-HD is Judge Mathis from 10:00am - 11:00am. Synopsis: "District Court Judge Greg Mathis presides over courtroom drama. TV-PG" The program appears to be Judge Lynn Unleashed: Divorce Court. My Toshiba integrated HDTV also shows the same PSIP program info. I plugged in my Zenith DTT901 and it verifies the screwy PSIP data for 025-01 and the WSJV-DT has no PSIP EPG data.

Looking forward, here's a screenshot of what it shows for tonight at 6:30-8:00pm EST:

Okay, now this is getting worse. hvs10trk, is there any chance that WCWW-HD is using Programming data from one of your Chicago stations? WSJV-HD is showing The Simpsons currently and according to my Toshiba, WCWW-HD has The Doctors, but it is really King of Queens.

Oh no! 9 minutes into Smallville the audio popped & crackled again. I was hoping the recent fix was the end all solution for this.. Looks like it isn't.. Bummer!

Oh no! 9 minutes into Smallville the audio popped & crackled again. I was hoping the recent fix was the end all solution for this.. Looks like it isn't.. Bummer!

The pop/fizzle is a CW HD thing. It a "planets are all aligned" thing.

I get all my locals OTA. (Dish Network via satellite EPG for these stations had the "right" EPG data, but I'm not sure where they get the Program Guide data that they use. TV Guide?)

I just fired up my Dish TR-40 (Dish's coupon-eligible DTV Converter.) Right now, it says that 025-01 WCWW-HD is Judge Mathis from 10:00am - 11:00am. Synopsis: "District Court Judge Greg Mathis presides over courtroom drama. TV-PG" The program appears to be Judge Lynn Unleashed: Divorce Court. My Toshiba integrated HDTV also shows the same PSIP program info. I plugged in my Zenith DTT901 and it verifies the screwy PSIP data for 025-01 and the WSJV-DT has no PSIP EPG data.

Looking forward, here's a screenshot of what it shows for tonight at 6:30-8:00pm EST:

Just looked at our PSIP mega-machine and we're getting the data that way. Good catch guys!!! We'll get it fixed. And thanks too!!! :)

I get all my locals OTA. (Dish Network via satellite EPG for these stations had the "right" EPG data, but I'm not sure where they get the Program Guide data that they use. TV Guide?)

I just fired up my Dish TR-40 (Dish's coupon-eligible DTV Converter.) Right now, it says that 025-01 WCWW-HD is Judge Mathis from 10:00am - 11:00am. Synopsis: "District Court Judge Greg Mathis presides over courtroom drama. TV-PG" The program appears to be Judge Lynn Unleashed: Divorce Court. My Toshiba integrated HDTV also shows the same PSIP program info. I plugged in my Zenith DTT901 and it verifies the screwy PSIP data for 025-01 and the WSJV-DT has no PSIP EPG data.

Looking forward, here's a screenshot of what it shows for tonight at 6:30-8:00pm EST:

It looks like it is displaying WFXR/WWCW FOX21/27 in Roanoke, Virginia LINK http://www.myfoxswva.com (http://www.myfoxswva.com)

They are incorrectly listed as WCWW on my TV guide also.

EDIT: Go to CW25's website http://www.thecw25.com/whats_on.html (http://www.thecw25.com/whats_on.html). WFXR's Schedule is on CW25s website in the whats on section because FOX21/27 is incorrectly listed as WCWW-DT?

The pop/fizzle is a CW HD thing. It a "planets are all aligned" thing.

Say what?

I believe this is the fizzle thing that also happens on WBND HD, and I think you said it had something to do with a level processor or something.

I'm still waiting for 5.1 on CW and ABC. Can't you just simply bitstream the 5.1 source, and then do whatever processing you need to do to the local audio (like local commercials) to match the national audio? I know most of the other stations switch between 448kbit/s 5.1 during the show and 192kbit/s Stereo during local commercials. What's stopping you from broadcasting 5.1?

It looks like it is displaying WFXR/WWCW FOX21/27 in Roanoke, Virginia LINK http://www.myfoxswva.com (http://www.myfoxswva.com)

They are incorrectly listed as WCWW on my TV guide also.

EDIT: Go to CW25's website http://www.thecw25.com/whats_on.html (http://www.thecw25.com/whats_on.html). WFXR's Schedule is on CW25s website in the whats on section because FOX21/27 is incorrectly listed as WCWW-DT?

Interesting. Our CW-HD (Fox-SD) station here is WWCW, whereas yours is WCWW. I'd venture to guess someone screwed up typing it in somewhere and is listing WWCW 21-1 (Fox-SD) on the listings for you.

This could be a problem higher up the chain, for example, at the guide company.

- Trip

Interesting. Our CW-HD (Fox-SD) station here is WWCW, whereas yours is WCWW. I'd venture to guess someone screwed up typing it in somewhere and is listing WWCW 21-1 (Fox-SD) on the listings for you.

This could be a problem higher up the chain, for example, at the guide company.

- Trip
Funny. I looked at the PSIP server today and 9PM was Fox21 news. How wierd is that. We're making the necessary calls to get it fixed.

Say what?

I believe this is the fizzle thing that also happens on WBND HD, and I think you said it had something to do with a level processor or something.
ABC HD fizzles straight out of the receiver. Processing just enhances it.

I'm still waiting for 5.1 on CW and ABC. Can't you just simply bitstream the 5.1 source, and then do whatever processing you need to do to the local audio (like local commercials) to match the national audio? I know most of the other stations switch between 448kbit/s 5.1 during the show and 192kbit/s Stereo during local commercials. What's stopping you from broadcasting 5.1? Dolby Digital Encoding and associated wiring.

It looks like it is displaying WFXR/WWCW FOX21/27 in Roanoke, Virginia LINK http://www.myfoxswva.com (http://www.myfoxswva.com)

They are incorrectly listed as WCWW on my TV guide also.

EDIT: Go to CW25's website http://www.thecw25.com/whats_on.html (http://www.thecw25.com/whats_on.html). WFXR's Schedule is on CW25s website in the whats on section because FOX21/27 is incorrectly listed as WCWW-DT?

:eek:

ABC HD fizzles straight out of the receiver. Processing just enhances it.

This is what I was referring to:
Just general level processing. At the moment we only take the 2.0 feed from ABC. What happens is the leveling processor doesn't like what it hears, panics, and switches to the analog inputs. There's nothing on the analog inputs so then it switches back. (All this even though it's forced to listen to the digital input.)


Dolby Digital Encoding and associated wiring.What Format is ABC HD's 5.1 feed to you? I just figured it was already DD5.1.

This is what I was referring to:



What Format is ABC HD's 5.1 feed to you? I just figured it was already DD5.1.

The problem we have with the audio fizzles on 25.1 and 57.1 is they're extremely sporadic and difficult to pinpoint what the cause is. I receive no alarms from monitoring gear thats in place.

As for ABC HD 5.1, it is fed to us as Dolby AC3, requiring a Dolby Decoder and encoder to send 5.1 out the door.

Funny. I looked at the PSIP server today and 9PM was Fox21 news. How wierd is that. We're making the necessary calls to get it fixed.

Correct guide data should be updated within the next 24 hours.

The problem we have with the audio fizzles on 25.1 and 57.1 is they're extremely sporadic and difficult to pinpoint what the cause is. I receive no alarms from monitoring gear thats in place.

As for ABC HD 5.1, it is fed to us as Dolby AC3, requiring a Dolby Decoder and encoder to send 5.1 out the door.

You have to decode and encode? You can't just bitstream? The system could simply switch streams from the national 5.1 AC3 during the show, and the local 2.0 AC3 during commercials and other non-HD programs.

Correct guide data should be updated within the next 24 hours.I'll keep an eye on it and let you know. At 10:50 PM EST, WCWW-HD shows Fox 21/27 News from 10:00 PM - 11:00 PM as previously reported.

Has anybody else notice that Directv's guide has the wrong information for channel 69. It seems to be showing the the listings for PBS channel 34?

Has anybody else notice that Directv's guide has the wrong information for channel 69. It seems to be showing the the listings for PBS channel 34?
Oh good god, not more. Anybody else confirm this?

Has anybody else notice that Directv's guide has the wrong information for channel 69. It seems to be showing the the listings for PBS channel 34?

I've noticed this for a couple weeks on my Tivo. The analog channel 69 listings are correct.

WSBT-TV's newscasts to go HD November 16th (next Sunday)
According to the South Bend Tribune front page today WSBT's Newscasts will go HD at 10:00 PM (sbt-2) and 11:00PM (WSBT-22)Sunday November 16th!
Great!
JIM

I've noticed this for a couple weeks on my Tivo. The analog channel 69 listings are correct.

I should have said channel 69.1 HD listings in directv's guide and thay are still wrong.

WSBT-TV's newscasts to go HD November 16th (next Sunday)
According to the South Bend Tribune front page today WSBT's Newscasts will go HD at 10:00 PM (sbt-2) and 11:00PM (WSBT-22)Sunday November 16th!
Great!
JIMThe South Bend Tribune had a nice supplement in the Sunday paper detailing the new facilities in Mishawaka. I saw the mention of SBT2's 10:00pm news being broadcast in HD. This is a bad move in my opinion. How can WSBT-DT support two HD feeds from 10:00 - 11:00pm? Or, the better question: How much picture quality degradation is WSBT going accept on CBS Prime Time to have bragging rights to an HD newscast at 10pm?

I'm looking forward to WSBT news in HD, but not at the expense of CBS-HD.

hvs10trk, WCWW-HD's PSIP EPG data is still fubar. At 7:22pm EST, it shows King of the Hill instead of the show that's on, In Harm's Way.

jhs33, I don't know what's worse: DirecTV having the wrong EPG data for 69.1, or DishNetwork not having any EPG data for 69-1. I'd have to say that at least your situation will get corrected so you can see the right data while us Dish customers will never get it right...

Does anyone have an update when Dish Network will off local channels in HD?

The South Bend Tribune had a nice supplement in the Sunday paper detailing the new facilities in Mishawaka. I saw the mention of SBT2's 10:00pm news being broadcast in HD. This is a bad move in my opinion. How can WSBT-DT support two HD feeds from 10:00 - 11:00pm? Or, the better question: How much picture quality degradation is WSBT going accept on CBS Prime Time to have bragging rights to an HD newscast at 10pm?

I'm looking forward to WSBT news in HD, but not at the expense of CBS-HD.

hvs10trk, WCWW-HD's PSIP EPG data is still fubar. At 7:22pm EST, it shows King of the Hill instead of the show that's on, In Harm's Way.

jhs33, I don't know what's worse: DirecTV having the wrong EPG data for 69.1, or DishNetwork not having any EPG data for 69-1. I'd have to say that at least your situation will get corrected so you can see the right data while us Dish customers will never get it right...

Just checked the PSIP mega machine and I see the correct data here now with the latest update. Should filter down to you guys sometime soon.

hvs10trk thanks for working out the OTA PSIP issues but, is it possible to get dish network to uplink the guide data for WMYS?

I know they use there own data and mirror on to the OTA channels. Anything they don't carry has to be uplinked over the sat separate. This is what they currently do for WSBT weather channel and PBS national feed.

Currently WMYS just lists as digital service. Unless I know of something being broadcast (like a sports event) I never watch it.

Thanks

hvs10trk thanks for working out the OTA PSIP issues but, is it possible to get dish network to uplink the guide data for WMYS?It will take some arm twisting. DISH does not carry WMYS and generally doesn't carry EPG data for channels they don't carry (other than subchannels of channels they carry).

Perhaps there could be some leverage because of the other channels carried ... or perhaps the new owners will have leverage. But it will take some convincing.

I wouldn't mind seeing WMYS added as an actual channel on DISH Network and not just EPG data. DirecTV does not carry WMYS or WHME (although they have WHT nationally) and only carries two networks in HD (WNDU and WSJV). DISH was planning of adding South Bend HD locals and had them uplinked for testing before the deal apparently fell apart. Hopefully everthing can be solved soon.

Just checked the PSIP mega machine and I see the correct data here now with the latest update. Should filter down to you guys sometime soon.

Thank's for checking into it. It still is wrong so far but I will keep checking every once in a while and let you know when it's fixxed.

fox still having problems with their HD feed? what gives?

fox still having problems with their HD feed? what gives?

It better be fixed before the 24 movie in a couple weeks!

It better be fixed before the 24 movie in a couple weeks!

i really don't understand what the deal is. coulda swore NFL was in HD this past Sunday?

i really don't understand what the deal is. coulda swore NFL was in HD this past Sunday?
Nope, CBS was.

It looks like WCWW-HD *might* have the right PSIP data now. I'll want to check it in the morning as it shows a "Paid Programming" right now, which could be 90% of the TV stations across the country at 3:00am...

It looks like WCWW-HD *might* have the right PSIP data now. I'll want to check it in the morning as it shows a "Paid Programming" right now, which could be 90% of the TV stations across the country at 3:00am...

Inbound to us it was fixed. I just don't know how long it will take to filter down to OTA users.

I know the big audio problem was fixed last week, but are those random 5 second audio dropouts that happen maybe once a night still there? It would be starting last nights prime time.

It looks like WCWW-HD *might* have the right PSIP data now. I'll want to check it in the morning as it shows a "Paid Programming" right now, which could be 90% of the TV stations across the country at 3:00am...Nope, sorry, jumped the gun. At 8:15am, Judge David Young is on WCWW-HD, but PSIP says The Daily Buzz. I'll check tonight after work.

Nope, sorry, jumped the gun. At 8:15am, Judge David Young is on WCWW-HD, but PSIP says The Daily Buzz. I'll check tonight after work.

Yeah I see that here. I'll give it a swift kick in the pants and see if it complies. :D

Yeah I see that here. I'll give it a swift kick in the pants and see if it complies. :D

Swift kick delivered. Should be good now. May take a little time to filter down to you guys.

I wonder what's up with Fox 28's HD feed. For the second time Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles broadcast widescreen in standard definition. I wonder what's up with that? I hope they get that worked out soon as T:SCC is one of my favorite shows, right up there with Smallville.

I wonder what's up with Fox 28's HD feed. For the second time Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles broadcast widescreen in standard definition. I wonder what's up with that? I hope they get that worked out soon as T:SCC is one of my favorite shows, right up there with Smallville.

I hope they get it fixed tonight for House and Fringe. :mad:

Don't count on it...

"Hi Mike,

Thank you for the email in regard to our HD signal; we are working very
hard to get this issue resolved and we know that its frustrating to our
viewers as much as it is to us. At this time I cant give you a timeline
on when it will be fixed, but I assure you that it will be done as soon
as we can.

Thanks again,


Heather Stewart
Admin Assistant
WSJV / Fox 28
Ph: 574-679-9758 x116
Fax: 574-294-1267"

Swift kick delivered. Should be good now. May take a little time to filter down to you guys.:D WCWW-HD has good PSIP EPG data! Yea! :D

And what are the odds? WSJV-HD's PSIP data is back, too. Still no HD, though. :(

Don't count on it...

"Hi Mike,

Thank you for the email in regard to our HD signal; we are working very
hard to get this issue resolved and we know that its frustrating to our
viewers as much as it is to us. At this time I cant give you a timeline
on when it will be fixed, but I assure you that it will be done as soon
as we can.

Thanks again,


Heather Stewart
Admin Assistant
WSJV / Fox 28
Ph: 574-679-9758 x116
Fax: 574-294-1267"

Yeah, I was going to inquire about it, as Fringe is running in SD over the HD feed. I have a little bit of "snow", white pixels popping up all over the screen, while watching the station. Makes me sad, I hope the fix it soon, been happening for over a week.

Yeah, I was going to inquire about it, as Fringe is running in SD over the HD feed. I have a little bit of "snow", white pixels popping up all over the screen, while watching the station. Makes me sad, I hope the fix it soon, been happening for over a week.

Yeah I noticed that too, not only in the actual picture area, but also in the black borders too.

I hope they at least get it fixed in time for the 24 movie.