For some reason I had it in my mind that it was an upconvert,
Probably because up until last week, the HDTV listings on the Sho.com website were listing it as an upconvert. It is now listing it as "WIDESCREEN HDTV OAR".

Good news!

Firestorm with Howie Long was shown on HBO-HD a few days ago. I have D* so quality was not that great. It was 2.35:1 with 2.0.

Dolores Claiborne was on SHO-HD in its original OAR.

However - it looked HORRIBLE, practically unwatchable. Clearly this was not an HD transfer. The resolution was poor and there were jaggies everywhere, as if watching on a DVD player with a bad de-interlacer.

Dolores Claiborne was on SHO-HD in its original OAR.

However - it looked HORRIBLE, practically unwatchable. Clearly this was not an HD transfer. The resolution was poor and there were jaggies everywhere, as if watching on a DVD player with a bad de-interlacer.
In contrast, the HDNet Movies version was quite good.

Dolores Claiborne was on SHO-HD in its original OAR.

However - it looked HORRIBLE, practically unwatchable. Clearly this was not an HD transfer. The resolution was poor and there were jaggies everywhere, as if watching on a DVD player with a bad de-interlacer.

Probably an upconvert. With Showtime, the good is very, very good (pristine 1080i OAR HD), but the bad (those pesky upconverts - why are they still showing them?) is not so hot. I just ignore the upconverts and wait for the true HD transfers; it's worth it.

Probably an upconvert. With Showtime, the good is very, very good (pristine 1080i OAR HD), but the bad (those pesky upconverts - why are they still showing them?) is not so hot. I just ignore the upconverts and wait for the true HD transfers; it's worth it.
This movie has been on HDNet Movies recently in a true HD transfer, and I'm sure it will pop up again.

I'm confused by your "but". A Few Good Men's OAR is 2.35 and that's how it was presented last night. So what's the "but" for? Am I missing something?

On my system, I had many breakups during the 10/14 11:00PM EDT Showtime presentation. Did anyone else notice, or is it a problem with my provider/system?

I Capture the Castle is 2.35:1 OAR on Starz-HD.

FYI Face/Off is on Cinemax sat. Nov 5th at 1:45 PM PST

its 2.35:1

seldenpat are you wish Dish?? I had the very same experience and the r5000-hd confirmed the errors, I had to delete the Good Men recording, which of course was the last showing :mad:
Dish Network and the Showtime HD channel is a joke, I cannot get the 148 bird from here so it could very well be better(error wise) on that sat

-Gary

seldenpat are you wish Dish?? I had the very same experience and the r5000-hd confirmed the errors, I had to delete the Good Men recording, which of course was the last showing :mad:
Dish Network and the Showtime HD channel is a joke, I cannot get the 148 bird from here so it could very well be better(error wise) on that sat

-Gary

No, Cablevision. I got it again a few days later with no breakups...must have been a local, temporary thing.

Speed 2 is OAR on HBO and pretty good quality. Unfortunately the movie is so bad I wont allow myself to record it.

seldenpat and gary -

i have comcast and also experienced bad breakups with A FEW GOOD MEN that night. i made a dvhs tape of it and noticed it then...i thought it was a bad tape but i made another recording from it and it had the same problems.....showtime's feed must have been screwy since three of us with different providors had the same issue (mostly with the second half of the movie).

As I was getting up this morning, I noticed Confidence was on HBO in oar. I really liked this one.

Tonight, HBO is showing Titanic in 2.35:1 OAR.

Tonight, HBO is showing Titanic in 2.35:1 OAR.

I cant believe this one. Looks great to:)

Shattered Glass on HBO 2:35 5.1 right now! Next Showing on HBO: Monday, Nov. 28th at 8:30pm.

Thank you Cinemax!

Ocean's Twelve is OAR!!!

Shattered Glass on HBO 2:35 5.1 right now! Next Showing on HBO: Monday, Nov. 28th at 8:30pm.Has been for quite a while. Like all Lion's Gate productions.

Cinemax is interesting. I bet Ocean's Twelve will be cropped when it reaches HBO.

This afternoon, Cinemax HD telecast Flight of the Intruder in 2.35:1 OAR.
HBO showed it today.

Thank you Cinemax!

Ocean's Twelve is OAR!!!

Max owns you! :) :)

thx cinemax!

I know that HBO movies eventually end up on Cinemax but do the Cinemax movies eventually make their way to HBO?? Will we be seeing Ocean's Twelve on HBO HD anytime soon??

I know that HBO movies eventually end up on Cinemax but do the Cinemax movies eventually make their way to HBO?? Will we be seeing Ocean's Twelve on HBO HD anytime soon??3 mos.

Recorded "Flight of the Intruder" from HBO and it was OAR! Video looked very good. This a pet favorite movie of mine, mainly due to Willem Dafoe, especially when he utters at the end "Alpha Mike Foxtrot". :)

It's supposed to re-air Nov 28th at 1:30pm IIRC.

larry

King Solomon's Mines is on GuyTV voom. Scope. Looks great, colorful and plenty of detail.
I do not see any evidence of NR that spoils and softens the older transfers.

Univ-HD is showing Dragonheart on right now in HD OAR 2.35. I can't confirm whether it's 5.1 or not.

Shane how is the picture quality. This is another fav of mine. Because of its age I expect it to be a soft transfer but Kudos to Univ HD for showing it in OAR.

Univ-HD is showing Dragonheart on right now in HD OAR 2.35. I can't confirm whether it's 5.1 or not.

I noticed it too...too distracted to record it since I was focused on KC(-6.5) to win me the weekly pool (13-2 so far). OAR was nice. What I saw looked good, but I was in no condition to truly evaluate. Maybe I should post on the "cruising while intoxicated" thread as well? :D

It's on again 12/3 at 11PM.

Univ-HD is showing Dragonheart on right now in HD OAR 2.35. I can't confirm whether it's 5.1 or not.

To my surprise it was also in 5.1!! I caught it by mistake. It looks like uhd may be changing for the better:)

Shane how is the picture quality. This is another fav of mine
PQ was outstanding here on Cable. I'm not sure how it was on a dish.

The 5.1 light was lit up and has been for a while but I'd be really shocked if this was truly 5.1. My DD light goes on when I go to that channel but there is no info coming out of the back speakers.

Also,
Fox HD is showing Anger Management in DD5.1 with OAR 2.35. VERY nice PQ on this.

Until the last minute it was nice....Glad Fox decided to flip the switch early... Was it a FOX NY only issue, or was everyone's like that?

national treasure was 2.35:1 and dd 5.1 on Starz! HD ! :)

national treasure was 2.35:1 and dd 5.1 on Starz! HD ! :)

But it is not in HD, it is a up-convert.

But it is not in HD, it is a up-convert.

That has not yet been confirmed.

hold on for the screen shot

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3381/nt31tu.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nt31tu.jpg)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5421/nt48nw.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nt48nw.jpg)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7503/nt57vp.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nt57vp.jpg)

let the debate begin

these are screen caps from Starz HD on comcast

based on screen caps that is a upconvert, no doubt

-Gary

can someone post the same dvd captures?

That was one heck of an upconvert then. I've watched it twice on Starz and it looked great.

You will know it is in HD when the black bars are gone. :p :mad:

Thick band on bottom of frame means upconvert...a good one, but one nonetheless.

then why is starz claiming its HD then? have they done that in the past? usualy if its an upconvert then its not labled HD..

then why is starz claiming its HD then? have they done that in the past? usualy if its an upconvert then its not labled HD..

If you look at their Online Schedule it does say HDTV, if you go to their November Download Schedule it just says 'WS' , while other movies listed in the Download schedule ( the non-Disney and Universal movies ) have 'WS' and HDTV symbols listed.

The good news is that in their December Download schedule it shows all the Disney movies ( not the Universal movies ) in HDTV and Widescreen ( also new symbols along with them ).

Days of Thunder is 2.35:1 and 2.0 on Cinemax right now

Thick band on bottom of frame means upconvert...a good one, but one nonetheless.

Mickey, I know you have a knack for these things, but are you SURE it's an upconvert? I watched my copy today and it looked much better than an upconvert. It was clearly not I, Robot quality, but it also didn't seem as bad as normal Starz upconverts. Do you think it could just be a bad HD transfer?

I just made another recording and I will compared them side-by-side. My first recording was from the 20th when it was not listed on the online calendar as HDTV and from last night when it was.

All I can say is that the the version from the 20th (I have not yet checked last night's version) had a huge band on the bottom of the frame (about 5-10 pixels) and most of the still frames lacked details.

I record, and sometimes keep upconverts, if they look really good. Finding Nemo comes to mind. That upconvert was very very very good and I can't wait to compare it to the 720p version from ABC.

The 20th version of NT was very good. It looks good-to-very-good on the 106" screen. But some of the close-ups of people's faces lacked that punch that HDTV transfers have.

Can it be a BAD HD transfer??? Could be. But do we rather have a bad HD transfer or a real good upconvert.

I will give you my honest opinion once I get the version from last night through the frame checker.

OK...both my copies (see previous post ) have a huge visible band on the entire bottom edge of the matte. It is very visible in various scenes and I found a frame that really shows it off.

I really can't comment on whether it will be different in Dec but I will definitely capture that version and compare it again. But from past upconvert versions, this is a definite upconvert.

Here is a 100% crop of the bottom left frame....

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7486/ntuc3hk.jpg

Thanks for the confirmation, Mickey.

Disappointing...

A little premature for us to be patting Starz on the back. Let's see what December brings...

Alexander the Great (1956) on Showtime looked incredible. With 13.25mbps the PQ was exceptional.

I was suprised that this was a 2.35:1 ratio...for some reason I thought it was more like 2.65:1 or higher....I saw this at the Cinerama Done in LA during their old revival festivals.

One more showing on Dec 22.

Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

That was a nice surprise even though it was only 2.0 audio and editted for time.

Ferris Bueller's Day Off.



Which channel?

Which channel?


CityHD

Which is from BEV by the way :rolleyes:

-Gary

Fallen in 2.35:1 OAR and 1080i on Starz-HD this morning.

I'll take Ferris Buller OAR on BEV CityHD with a video bitrate of 15.15Mbps any day of the week.

National Treasure on StarzHD was OAR, and a pretty sharp and artefact free transfer to boot.

I'm new to all this just got my HDTV a few weeks ago, just got HD cable (comcast) yesterday. I was dissapointed to see them stretching 1.85 to 16:9, no black bars. I was planning on using my older PC as an HTPC, using firewire outputs of the STB (Motorola DCT6200). If it works out decently as far as PQ (that's the tough part) I'm thinking I can easily adjust the aspect ratio manually for movies, as there are video players for the PC that mess around with height x width setting without regard to maintaining aspect ratios. Has anybody taken this route? Yeah, there's scaling involved, but I would rather scale a little than watch a stretched picture.

I'm new to all this just got my HDTV a few weeks ago, just got HD cable (comcast) yesterday. I was dissapointed to see them stretching 1.85 to 16:9, no black bars. I was planning on using my older PC as an HTPC, using firewire outputs of the STB (Motorola DCT6200). If it works out decently as far as PQ (that's the tough part) I'm thinking I can easily adjust the aspect ratio manually for movies, as there are video players for the PC that mess around with height x width setting without regard to maintaining aspect ratios. Has anybody taken this route? Yeah, there's scaling involved, but I would rather scale a little than watch a stretched picture.

The difference is very small and probably most of the time they get to 16:9 by just showing a bit of the picture that was matted for theatrical release. This is so little of an issue for me though that I cannot give you a definitve answer on this, you'd have to compare movies where you have the DVD and the HD version. Come to think of it there might also be a bit of overscan with the HD presentation which conveniently gets rid of the tiny black bars you get with 1.85 movies.

Definitely not worth to scale a 16:9 HD presentation for that, at least that's my opinion.

Disney's Home on the Range was OAR with slight pillar bars. It is claimed to be in HD on the schedule. It looked much better than when it ran during a Starz free preview promo a while back.

Will we be seeing Ocean's Twelve on HBO HD anytime soon??

Looks like HBO will be premiering Ocean's Twelve Jan. 14 8pm EST.

Lets hope that they keep it OAR (2.35:1).

Fat chance.

Didn't Max show it OAR? I know that doesn't mean anything for HBO...

Mickey -

you are correct, Cinemax (the king of cropping) actually showed it OAR 2.35:1 so it wouldn't surprise me if HBO-HD shows it OAR as well. They seem to use the same transfers a lot of the time.

maybe they tried to crop it but the nature of the framing on this particular title was prohibitive? either way i'm not complaining. i caught it on MAX and it looked great, even if the second half of the film itself is a disaster.

oleus

Fat chance.

I'll put $$ on it being 2.35 ... :)

How much you want to put up? I agree with Cheezmo.

Cinemax is famous for showing stuff OAR that is Cropped on HBO.

> Cinemax is famous for showing stuff OAR that is Cropped on HBO. <

FanAtic, could you (or anyone) cite a few such examples, for those of us who've done quite a bit of HBO-HD recording, but just got Cinemax-HD available? Lacking further info, I'd tend to purge films from my monthly Cinemax to-record list, if they were already on my HBO-recorded list from the last 18 months. Thanks.

- Tim

I'm starting to actively look for '90s movies shown on HBO-HD.

1997's The Peacemaker - not a great film, but OK and even better in OAR at 2.35:1 on HBO-HD…

Did anyone catch the showing of Ben Hur on Cinemax the other night. It certainly was presented in a scope type aspect ratio of 2.35:1 or higher. I would have to measure though to say whether it was the full 2.76:1 or not.

Audio was DD 2.0 which is sufficient for such an old movie.

Picture quality was amazing for such an old film. There was almost a complete absence of grain ususally visible on these older prints and contrast ratio was exemplary.

Only problem is that at 211 minute listed running time it won't fit on a standard DF300 D-VHS tape although it may just squeeze in on a 420 (210) tape.

Kurt

Did anyone catch Contact on HBO-HD? Was it OAR?

I recorded it to DVHS and was only able to catch a glimpse on the r5000 media player on my laptop when I was checking to see if I had captured it correctly. It looked like 2.35:1. But I haven't had time to play it back on my display to know for sure.

INTO THE NIGHT on Universal-HD is displayed in its OAR of 1.85:1
and is the best presentation of this film to date. Kudos!

Contact has been in OAR (approx 2.35:1) everytime that I've seen it on, although audio was only 2.0, not 5.1 like the DVD.

Kurt

Universal HD is now showing Scarface in OAR!

Dolby 2.0

Contact has been in OAR (approx 2.35:1) everytime that I've seen it on, although audio was only 2.0, not 5.1 like the DVD.

KurtNot surprising; most HBO-HD films that date from the late 1990s are OAR, as that's before HBO adopted their moronic 16:9 cropping policy, and HBO isn't going to bother to have cropped HD tapes done.

Starz, Kill Bill Vol 2.

Starz, Kill Bill Vol 2.

Vol. 1, t-nite at 11pm, set your boxes, mine is all set to go.

Days of Thunder and The Peacemaker (mentioned above) were both shown in their OAR last night on HBO. That was a pleasant surprise to me.

Universal HD is showing "The Jackal in OAR tonight!"

At the beginning they acknowledge it's the original theatrical presentation!.

WTG Uni-hD!

Vol. 1, t-nite at 11pm, set your boxes, mine is all set to go.You'll be disappointed... Vol. 1 was hacked with a Hattori Hanzo sword to 16:9.

Kill Bill 1 was shot super 35 so it's possible it was an open matte transfer, it looked REALLY good other than some macroblocking in the first fight scene.

it's still odd they'd show an OAR 2.35:1 print of Vol. 2 the very same day they show a non-OAR version of Vol. 1, but if it was indeed a crop it was the best crop i've ever seen.

It's Super35, but slightly zoomed in. The 720p version from Canada is OAR.

Did anyone catch the showing of Ben Hur on Cinemax the other night. It certainly was presented in a scope type aspect ratio of 2.35:1 or higher. I would have to measure though to say whether it was the full 2.76:1 or not.

Audio was DD 2.0 which is sufficient for such an old movie.

Picture quality was amazing for such an old film. There was almost a complete absence of grain ususally visible on these older prints and contrast ratio was exemplary.

Only problem is that at 211 minute listed running time it won't fit on a standard DF300 D-VHS tape although it may just squeeze in on a 420 (210) tape.

Kurt

I didn't get it but my understanding is that it is too long for any single DVHS tape and was shown at approximately it's OAR of 2.76:1.

Art

I might have missed it in the thread but The Incredibles was shown on Max HD in OAR a short time back.

Art

I might have missed it in the thread but The Incredibles was shown on Max HD in OAR a short time back.

ArtCouldn't have. The first time it was shown in HD was this month on Starz.

I might have missed it in the thread but The Incredibles was shown on Max HD in OAR a short time back.

No way, Starz has the Disney contract for 'new' movies, HBO/MAX does not, next place for it will be the Encore channels then ABC.

Please don't flame me, but, what does 'OAR' mean? I have seen it mentioned quite a bit but I am unfamiliar with the term.

Thanks

Please don't flame me, but, what does 'OAR' mean? I have seen it mentioned quite a bit but I am unfamiliar with the term.

Thanks

Original aspect ratio:D!

No way, Starz has the Disney contract for 'new' movies, HBO/MAX does not, next place for it will be the Encore channels then ABC.


My mistake,it was in OAR however.

Art

Andromeda Strain on Universal HD.

I didn't get it but my understanding is that it is too long for any single DVHS tape and was shown at approximately it's OAR of 2.76:1.

Art

Well I did manage to squeeze all of Ben Hur onto a single DF420 D-VHS tape. It ran for 213 minutes though which was 3 minutes longer than the advertized time of the blank tape. I got a couple of glitches at the very end, no doubt due to a lack of quality of the tape near the very end, but it did all fit.

Kurt

Well I did manage to squeeze all of Ben Hur onto a single DF420 D-VHS tape. It ran for 213 minutes though which was 3 minutes longer than the advertized time of the blank tape. I got a couple of glitches at the very end, no doubt due to a lack of quality of the tape near the very end, but it did all fit.

Kurt

I got it all on a DF-480. I'll try to fit it onto a DF-420 so I can use the 480 for something else (LOTR ROTK EE, eventually...hopefully)

I got mine on a DF420 with over a minute to spare.

Ocean's 11 (the original version, not the remake -- even though that is what my DTV guide is listing) is currently showing in OAR on INHD2. It's on a couple of more times today as well as a number of more times this month.

This it the first film I've seen in OAR on INHD2.

Ocean's 11 is currently showing in OAR on INHD2. It's on a couple of more times today as well as a number of more times this month.

This it the first film I've seen in OAR on INHD2.It's because it's a transfer they ran at the very beginning. There are a few others- Baraka is one I can recall.

'Gray Lady Down' on Universal HD

Dante's Peak on UHD

Was Dante's Peak REAL 5.1 or the fake 5.1 they are giving many films (like Mulholland Dr.)???

Holy Man on Starz.

Was Dante's Peak REAL 5.1 or the fake 5.1 they are giving many films (like Mulholland Dr.)???

Fake 5.1. Certainly is frustrating. On D*, I have only heard real 5.1 on a limited basis - Medical Investigation, Battlestar Galactica and movie trailer commercials. Strange that they (don't know if it is D* or UHD) can't present 5.1 on a consistent basis.

Unreal. Incompetence is everywhere. :mad:

Days of Thunder looks uncropped and OAR on HBOHD right now

Days of Thunder looks uncropped and OAR on HBOHD right now

Yep and it is a beauty isn't it ?? :eek:

the 2.0 using PLIIx sounds wonderful

Scott that OAR Ocean's Eleven was shown on HDNet Movies a few months back, it was unbelievable, Older movies look so much better in HD, I just watched "Forbidden Planet" a few days ago and it was smokin

-Gary

SAW on SHOWTIME was OAR and it looked fantastic!
It's on again on 1/17 @ 9pm and my D-VHS is ready and waiting.

SAW on SHOWTIME was OAR and it looked fantastic!
It's on again on 1/17 @ 9pm and my D-VHS is ready and waiting.

watched that as well and it was amazing

Jeez I only listening to DoT via DD Suround and I thought itw as 5.1

lol

Coach Carter in Canada. ;)

I wanted in on the thread too.

The 5.1 mix off of the Cablevision feed was very aggressive...easily on par with the SAW DVD. The color purity and increased image detail from the HD version was awesome. The picture quality of DVD editions are just poor by comparision.

Scott that OAR Ocean's Eleven was shown on HDNet Movies a few months back, it was unbelievable,
This really is unbelievable. OAR and I swear it's sharper than the Cloony remake. There's hardly a speck of grain on it either.

I wish they'd keep mono sound in the center speaker instead of smearing it between the left and right, but other than that it sounds great.

How about Oceans Twelve on HBO in what looks to be OAR.

I was fairly disappointed in the way Ghostbusters on Showtime was cropped.

Normally I don't really care if a movie is OAR or not, but the scene where Bill Murray spins like a top by the fountain was ruined because there should have been a skater spinning nearby but that part of the frame was missing. It didn't ruin the movie but it sure took a lot of meaning away from that scene.

Lumpy,


Amazing, I had this exact same thought today while watching ghostbusters for the umpteenth time. Watching Bill spin by himself shows exactly how crop jobs can ruin director's intent.

Ray

Fake 5.1. Certainly is frustrating. On D*, I have only heard real 5.1 on a limited basis - Medical Investigation, Battlestar Galactica and movie trailer commercials. Strange that they (don't know if it is D* or UHD) can't present 5.1 on a consistent basis.

Matt's use of fake 5.1 is an interesting choice of words.

UHD had a problem loosing sync and dropping frames when they switched between 5.1 and 2.0 for BSG in Season 1.

About 2 months ago they took the Fox Network approach and just kept the entire network in 5.1 mode 24/7/365. Not a bad move and one NBC should use as they manage to screw up the metadata all the time, but I digress.

Anyway, the 2.0 Dolby Surround stuff is put on the stream, although it is just left and right. This of course had several posting on AVS about all the new 5.1 movies on UHD.

Of the 70 some movies on UHD last year, the only one in true 5.1 audio was DragonHeart.

Got to run.....Silent Running is on for the 135,125,115th time. If I don't catch it now, I will have to wait until tomorrow to see it.

Brdiget Jones Diary within reason or whatever its called....is OAR

;) In case anyone cares

Brdiget Jones Diary within reason or whatever its called....is OAR

;) In case anyone caresOn Starz. Upconvert.

looked HD to me...or it was an incredibly good upconvert...but it definitely looked HD

looked HD to me...or it was an incredibly good upconvert...but it definitely looked HDIt was an upconvert unless they got an HD transfer, which seems unlikely. Check out their schedule:
http://www.starz.com/features/guides/0601sthd.pdf

It was an upconvert unless they got an HD transfer, which seems unlikely. Check out their schedule:
http://www.starz.com/features/guides/0601sthd.pdf

heh, guess it wasn't but that was one damn fine upconvert...

Spotted "Contact" in OAR on HBO yesterday while flipping around between playoff games.
That's the second one I've seen on HBO this weekend. First one was "Oceans Twelve".
Could they finally be getting the message? I'm trying not to get my hopes too high.

Spotted "Contact" in OAR on HBO yesterday while flipping around between playoff games.
That's the second one I've seen on HBO this weekend. First one was "Oceans Twelve".
Could they finally be getting the message? I'm trying not to get my hopes too high.

Weird thing about Contact was, TitanTV didn't have it as HD but HBO's program guide said TrueHD...After seeing the Bridge Jones up-convert, I can no longer say for sure which movies aren't HD....Contact did look pretty damn good though...much better than the DVD

Weird thing about Contact was, TitanTV didn't have it as HD but HBO's program guide said TrueHD...After seeing the Bridge Jones up-convert, I can no longer say for sure which movies aren't HD....Contact did look pretty damn good though...much better than the DVD
I don't have the DVD, but if you thought the pq was much better than the DVD, then it was "TrueHD".

Contact was an old transfer from before they started to crop.

heh, guess it wasn't but that was one damn fine upconvert...

Not to question what you saw, but I saw the same transfer and found it to be extremely soft and not even close to being a good upconvert.

Spotted "Contact" in OAR on HBO yesterday while flipping around between playoff games.
That's the second one I've seen on HBO this weekend. First one was "Oceans Twelve".
Could they finally be getting the message? I'm trying not to get my hopes too high.Contact (1997) is no surprise cuz it is pre-1999 HBO cropping policy but isn't this really big news about Oceans 12 showing OAR? Is this the first non-Lions Gate 2:35 film to be shown OAR on HBO since 1999?

Charlie's Angels Full Throttle was shown in OAR on Cinemax, but cropped on HBO :confused:

For Richer or Poorer(Tim Allen) movie is showing 2.35 OAR right now on Uni-HD.

So far Uni-Hd has been VERY consistent with their OAR this year(minus TV shows of course).

Anyone know why Ocean's Twelve is OAR on HBO-HD?

I'm incredibly grateful (it actually made me watch what IMHO is otherwise a horrible piece of cr*p), but it's also obviously not an old "pre-crop" transfer.

Do the filmmakers just have enough clout on this one to insist it be shown OAR on HBO (sort of like how back in the day before letterboxing was prevalent Woody Allen was able to insist his new films be released on video only in letterbox format?)

MATILDA (1996) on the Movie Channel (1/21) was OAR!

UHD showed "The Quest" in OAR just Thursday or Friday night.

Anyone know why Ocean's Twelve is OAR on HBO-HD?

I'm incredibly grateful (it actually made me watch what IMHO is otherwise a horrible piece of cr*p), but it's also obviously not an old "pre-crop" transfer.

Do the filmmakers just have enough clout on this one to insist it be shown OAR on HBO (sort of like how back in the day before letterboxing was prevalent Woody Allen was able to insist his new films be released on video only in letterbox format?)

because It debuted on cinemax 3 months ago OAR, and since Max/HBO are the same company they *almost* allways get the same movies.

Contact (1997) is no surprise cuz it is pre-1999 HBO cropping policy but isn't this really big news about Oceans 12 showing OAR? Is this the first non-Lions Gate 2:35 film to be shown OAR on HBO since 1999?

the peacemaker was OAR and 5.1 on HBO and Cinemax

also Contact started playing on max/hbo just this summer....

GHOSTBUSTERS on Showtime is in OAR right now!

GHOSTBUSTERS on Showtime is in OAR right now!

... and 5.1 to boot.

Overall a pretty decent transfer. There is more grain than you see with a recent release and the blacks are a little murky, but a huge improvement over the soft, butchered pan & scan version show previously on Showtime.

This film makes a compelling case for why OAR is preferable.

Kurt

"The Edge" on Cinemax. OAR 2.35:1 Great movie.

larry

Nice to hear about ghostbusters!

too bad it's not listed as playing again in the next month or so...did they wait until the last time they were going to air it to fix the problem?

Miss Congeniality 2 on HBOHD is cropped and zoomed but when the credits roll at the end it went OAR.

Let's make a deal.

Opening and Closing Credits in OAR does not make a movie OAR for this section.....it must be OAR for the ENTIRE movie, however, if you care to start an Opening and Closing Credits in OAR thread.......

Let's make a deal.

Opening and Closing Credits in OAR does not make a movie OAR for this section.....it must be OAR for the ENTIRE movie, however, if you care to start an Opening and Closing Credits in OAR thread.......

I think that is a little harsh :cool: , take it easy on the kid, he get's the idea

destrada don't you just love it when that happens(OAR credits) ??, it's like a big kick in the tackle:mad:

-Gary

"The Edge" on Cinemax. OAR 2.35:1 Great movie.

larry

so very good I agree and boy does it look excellent doesn't it ??:eek:
slap on that Pro-Logic IIx and enjoy !! :)

-Gary

Let's make a deal.

Opening and Closing Credits in OAR does not make a movie OAR for this section.....it must be OAR for the ENTIRE movie, however, if you care to start an Opening and Closing Credits in OAR thread.......

Just making a point how stupid it was for HBO to do that.

Just making a point how stupid it was for HBO to do that.

It happens. I guess the producers want to make sure their names don't get cut off. Daredevil had credits OAR and then swithed to open matte.

Miss Congeniality 2 on HBOHD is cropped and zoomed but when the credits roll at the end it went OAR.
That's typical -- most cropped movies have their end credits shown OAR, and many also have their opening credits in OAR as well -- to make sure none of the names get cut off!

Although I have used my DVHS recorders for several years time shifting TV shows, I have only had Comcast for a short time. I officially recorded my first DVHS movie - "The Hunt for Red October" - a couple of nights ago. (better late than never) I plan to try a few more. Other than checking in here and hoping someone has posted a sighting, is there any convenient way to determine when a movie is coming on OAR on HBO, Showtime, Cinemax or Starz? If so, where is the best place to find that information?

RKPerk, this can be a bit of a gamble as most channels do not specify OAR.
SHOWTIME is one of the only channels that specifies when a film is playing in OAR: http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/hdtv.do
HBO, STARZ, and CINEMAX will list films that are playing in HD,
but not necessarily OAR. STARZ is better for presenting OAR
over HBO and CINEMAX, but new releases can be unpredictable on those channels.
I wish that I had a better answer for you. Hopefully this will change in the
near future and channels will list when a film is in OAR.

CROCODILE DUNDEE is OAR on Cinemax right now!

CROCODILE DUNDEE is OAR on Cinemax right now!

That's GREAT! I set the timer to grab this while I am at work today! Look forward to seeing it when I get home tonight!

MOTHER ******* HBO/CINEMAX!!!!! I checked the schedule as late as last night and there was nothing for Feb up. Now they show one favorite comedy of ALL TIME and it is on just this once and I missed yet!!!!!

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure is OAR on Cinemax. Missed recording it, though. On again 2/19 at 8:15PM.

Showtime did a great job on Walking Tall.
Seemed like 2.35:1? Good presentation.

Showtime did a great job on Walking Tall.
Seemed like 2.35:1? Good presentation.

Yeah...I can't look or listen to da Rock more than a few minutes a year...but the PQ looked outstanding earlier.

"I Know What You Did Last Summer".

Late night Saturday night (actually, 1AM Sunday morning).

Not the greatest movie, but it is on HBO-HD in OAR.

Judas Kiss (1998) was aired 2.35 on StarzHD.

Quite a good movie, a very nice and unexpected surprise.

Possession with Gwyneth Paltrow was OAR on UHD last night.

so if the showtime listings are to be believed, TOMBSTONE will be OAR?

i don't think i've ever seen this in OAR on hd cable, just the horribly cropped version.

so if the showtime listings are to be believed, TOMBSTONE will be OAR?

i don't think i've ever seen this in OAR on hd cable, just the horribly cropped version.

I recorded it last time from Showtime and it was OAR and it looked great.

Tombstone was amazing last showing around 1 year ago on Showtime, it was first cropped, we emailed Paul and things changed and we got a amazing OAR showing that looked damn good

-Gary

Tombstone was amazing last showing around 1 year ago on Showtime, it was first cropped, we emailed Paul and things changed and we got a amazing OAR showing that looked damn good

-Gary

Awesome!

Congrats on having Paul their for you.

"I Know What You Did Last Summer".

Late night Saturday night (actually, 1AM Sunday morning).

Not the greatest movie, but it is on HBO-HD in OAR.


LOL, this movie is such a piece of crap, but I watched just about the whole thing anyway just because it was in HD in OAR. The worst part is, I actually saw the movie before when it was in the theaters. One of the valueable lessons of my first month with HD: movies that suck in a movie theater will still suck in HD.

Baraka is airing this week on INHD2 in it's OAR. This film was shot in 70mm (though INHD2 incorrectly keeps saying it was shot on IMAX), which has an aspect ratio 2.2:1. As crappy a channel as INHD2 can be, showing Baraka in it's OAR just about makes having the channel worth it. The only problem is they insist on having the INHD2 logo on the bottom right corner of the screen, which can be incredibly obtrusive, especially when the picture doesn't have a lot of white. I'm not sure why they couldn't have just placed the logo in the black area to keep it off the picture.

BTW, does anyone have any insight into how Super 35 films get transferred to fill up a 16:9 screen? Do you actually see more than you would in the 2.35 to 1 format or are they simply cropping the 2.35 to 1 image?

BTW, does anyone have any insight into how Super 35 films get transferred to fill up a 16:9 screen? Do you actually see more than you would in the 2.35 to 1 format or are they simply cropping the 2.35 to 1 image?

When they edited the film for theatrical release they crop the top and bottom (sometimes only the bottom) of the 16x9 frame. So technically speaking, the 2.35:1 is the cropped version...but still OAR.

When they edited the film for theatrical release they crop the top and bottom (sometimes only the bottom) of the 16x9 frame. So technically speaking, the 2.35:1 is the cropped version...but still OAR.

Thanks, that's what I thought. I assume filmmakers using Super 35 are now making sure the 16:9 frame is properly composed even though they are primarily composing for 2.35:1. I know when they shoot in Super 35 generally they are keeping in mind how it will transfer to a 4:3 frame, so it should be easier for them to consider the 16:9 frame.

Super35 films are composed at 2.35:1 and that area is all the DP sees while shooting.

Super35 films are composed at 2.35:1 and that area is all the DP sees while shooting.

Actually that is not entirely true...in some cases the camera and monitor is matted so that the 2.35:1 is the only thing visible but for the most part the camera and monitor is open matted so that no accidental things get in the frame (booms, crew, etc). Most times the camera/monitor have lines on them that show the DP where the 2.35:1 (and sometimes even the 4:3) areas are so he can see what each aspect ratio will look like.

The best example of this is the DVD of Gladiator. In the extra section (one of the makings of the movie docs) they show Riddley and the DP talking about framing and they show both the camera and the monitor in the background. You can clearly see the outlines for both 2.35:1 and (heaven forbid) the 4:3.

No, you misunderstand. When looking through the viewfinder, all the DP will see is the 2.35:1 area. But the monitors frequently show everything. I've spken to a number of DP's who have used SUper35 about this.

Baraka is airing this week on INHD2 in it's OAR.

I just cannot take this channel seriously. I do not consider them a movie channel. To me its just TV because of the HUGE bug. HD movie channels like HDNET,Showtime,HBO and the Voom channels and several on Bel are what I call REAL movie channels.
INHD does have some entertaining programing.

I just cannot take this channel seriously. I do not consider them a movie channel. To me its just TV because of the HUGE bug. HD movie channels like HDNET,Showtime,HBO and the Voom channels and several on Bel are what I call REAL movie channels.
INHD does have some entertaining programing.

I don't disagree with this for the most part, but Baraka is an exception. It's always been one of my favorite films, and I even have two copies of the DVD... one for myself and another to lend out to friends... just because I think it's a movie that everyone should see. I think it's great that INHD2 decided to show it (plus Chronos, also made by Ron Fricke, one of the best IMAX movies). While giving them credit for that, I still got to slam them for making their logo so obtrusive, and for the fact that the rest of the programming on the network is pretty lousy.

The Chronicles of Riddick is on now on bel. 235:1 Looks great.

I know this does not count but yesterday they showed Hellboy in HD. Looked stunning.

HDNair

They do deserve a thumbs up for showing it in OAR :)

Alan is RIDDICK the Director's cut or the Theatrical?

Alan is RIDDICK the Director's cut or the Theatrical?

Not sure. It did not say and I do not know how to tell. I did not watch it but next time its on Ill be grabbing it. Transfer looked great.

Alan is RIDDICK the Director's cut or the Theatrical?

Matt, it should be the theatrical version... ;)

The theatrical version is so sub-par....they leave out all the important information that comes in the Directors Cut...

what is bel? I watched Hellboy the first day I got my projector and I have to agree, the transfer is amazing

what is bel?

Bel ExpressVu Satellite out of Canada.

Feb 28th Spiderman 2 OAR 5.1 Bel

Not sure. It did not say and I do not know how to tell. I did not watch it but next time its on Ill be grabbing it. Transfer looked great.

It's right at 119 minutes and 12 seconds so based on the imdb info - I would say its not the Directors cut.

That sucks. The Director's cut is so much better. :mad:

Bel ExpressVu Satellite out of Canada.

Feb 28th Spiderman 2 OAR 5.1 Bel

ahh ok...

That sucks. The Director's cut is so much better.

SERIOUSLY...it really is...I only watched the Director Cut the first few times and then I saw it on HBO and it was totally scrambled up and confusing...terrible Theatrical Release and I can see why it didn't do too well

Bel ExpressVu: LOTR: The return of the Ring. OAR

Bel ExpressVu: LOTR: The return of the Ring. OAR

How long is that version Alan???

201 min. http://www.themovienetwork.ca/details/?36420

That version is on the way to me on 7 lovely DVD-R's. :D

Matt

BE is kicking butt with fresh material we are not getting for what ever reason. Reading their schedule to keep up on whats out there in HD it will hit us sooner or later.

201 min. http://www.themovienetwork.ca/details/?36420

The 201min version is the theatrical version Bummer!!!!...the EE is supposed to be 251min according to IMDB.

That version is on the way to me on 7 lovely DVD-R's. :D

Matt,

Is that the BEV or CMoreHD version???

CMoreHD

I found the time on Chronicles Of Riddick
Duration: 01:59

I found the time on Chronicles Of Riddick
Duration: 01:59

Bummer...that is also the also theatrical...Director's cut is 135min (02:35).

CMoreHD

Be prepared to drool... ;)

EDIT---my mistake...never mind...sorry.

Mickey commented:
> that is also the also theatrical...Director's cut is 135min (02:35). <

I think you meant to say 2:15. Isn't base 60 fun? :)

Alan wrote:
> Feb 28th Spiderman 2 OAR 5.1 Bel <

This might be a good opportunity to ask the deep, philosophical question: which 2.35 OAR presentation would you prefer... one aired open-matte at 1.78 @1080i (HBO/Cinemax) [i.e., full-width, so nothing cut off]. OR, one aired at 2.35 OAR, downconverted to 720p from BeV? [I don't know that this one will be, but my understanding was that almost all on BeV are 720p.]

- Tim

I know it may sound crazy but I was so glad to finally see Last Action Hero in its OAR on ShowtimeHD about a week back after always seeing it cropped on other HD channels.

Mickey commented:
> that is also the also theatrical...Director's cut is 135min (02:35). <

I think you meant to say 2:15. Isn't base 60 fun? :)


Suuurrreee...rub it in.... :D

CMoreHD


Man, are you about to see an awesome transfer of ROTK. I just finished watching Seabiscuit in OAR from C-More HD and damn!! It looked awesome as well.

I must be really out of the loop, because all the references to C-More HD didn't ring any bells for me. In case others were also wondering, I did a quick check and it appears it is a Swedish PPV-HD service, running unfiltered 1080i at 18 MBit/sec rates, in OAR. I.e., higher than anything we'd normally ever see here via satellite or cable distribution methods.

- Tim

I must be really out of the loop, because all the references to C-More HD didn't ring any bells for me. In case others were also wondering, I did a quick check and it appears it is a Swedish PPV-HD service, running unfiltered 1080i at 18 MBit/sec rates, in OAR. I.e., higher than anything we'd normally ever see here via satellite or cable distribution methods.

- Tim

:( :mad:, gee, that channel would be sweet

-Gary

I know it may sound crazy but I was so glad to finally see Last Action Hero in its OAR on ShowtimeHD about a week back after always seeing it cropped on other HD channels.

not crazy at all, damn good amd fun movie that no one understands at all, I have a OAR capture from HBO from the past(2.0 only) and it looks pretty good, sadly I missed the OAR/5.1 Showtime showings due to Dish Network's garbage error filled Showtime Streams :mad:, I gotta get that 4DTV going

-Gary

gee, that channel would be sweet

-Gary

From what I have seen the PQ is breathtaking...the variety is not as extensive as we are used to here in the US/Canada but they do have a few gems now and then...ie, Lost in Translation was superb (even with that grainy look about it).

When HDnet Movies showed Giant this morning, it showed it pillar box since it has a 1.66:1 aspect ratio. It's the first film on HDnet Movies I've ever seen pillar boxed. Alas, the PQ of the film seems subpar compared to most other offerings on HDnet Movies.

jabba commented:
> Alas, the PQ of the film seems subpar compared to most other offerings on HDnet Movies. <

I agree, however that was a result of the condition of the source materials that are available after all these years, not HDNM. Some classic material was in danger of being lost entirely, hence the efforts of the film preservation society to acquire and restore, as much as feasible.

As Glimmie has mentioned in the HDNet PQ threads on several occasions, would you rather watch a classic film with less than stellar PQ, or not watch it at all? I'll take the best quality I can get, while lamenting the fact that many older films aren't being given much respect, or care given to preserving them. Kudos to HDNet for bringing us these older films, and keeping them alive.

-Tim

JAWS 2 on Universal-HD is OAR right now!
Excellent transfer, free of the usual smearing visible on many of
their older films.

King of the Hill- UHD. Excellent transfer.

I really hope Comcast doesn't cancel this channel.:(

Question, was Sum of All Fears OAR last night on CBS? I wasn't expecting that after Die Another Day was broadcast on Saturday night.

Question, was Sum of All Fears OAR last night on CBS? I wasn't expecting that after Die Another Day was broadcast on Saturday night.Yes, it was. The PQ was surprisingly good on my local affiliate, as rebroadcast by TWC. I slo-mo'd through the frenetic explosion sequence and there were no unsubtle artifacts that I could spot.

Without the ads, it would have been great :).

King of the Hill- UHD. Excellent transfer.

I really hope Comcast doesn't cancel this channel.:(

Ditto on Time Warner!

Question about OAR movies. Since I have a 16:9 screen, if an HD movie is shown as OAR, do I notice a difference compared to a a standard HD program, since both will fill my screen?

Question about OAR movies. Since I have a 16:9 screen, if an HD movie is shown as OAR, do I notice a difference compared to a a standard HD program, since both will fill my screen?

It depends on what the OAR is. Typical aspect ratios are 4:3 (standard television, films made before the 50's), 1.66:1 (European matted widescreen), 1.85:1 (American matted widescreen), 2.2:1 (70mm) and 2.35:1 (anamorphic widescreen, Super35 widescreen). 1.85:1 and probably 1.66:1 (can't say I've ever seen an example of this) would be slightly cropped to fill the 16:9 screen (16:9 translates to 1.78:1). This cropping is pretty minimal and wouldn't bother most people. Wider formats would need to have black bars on the tops and bottoms to be presented in it's OAR, and narrower formats would need to have black bars on the sides to be shown in it's OAR.

If you want to know what the OAR of a film is, check out the technical specs on IMDB.com.

50 First Dates in 2.35:1 looked REALLY GOOD this morning.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4081/50firstdates11pi.png (http://imageshack.us)

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Cabin Fever on HBO also looked really good this morning 2.35:1!

Cabin Fever on HBO also looked really good this morning 2.35:1!

I looked it up in IMDB. Cabin Fever is a "new release" (2002). Lions Gate is the U.S. distributor.

50 First Dates in 2.35:1 looked REALLY GOOD this morning.

Which channel?

Cabin Fever on HBO also looked really good this morning 2.35:1!

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HFA wrote,
> 50 First Dates in 2.35:1 looked REALLY GOOD this morning. <

Yo, FanAtic, I'll echo Darrin... which channel?

If Cinemax, that would be very interesting, because both times previously that it aired on HBO, it was 1.78. Unfortunately, I see only a single airing left, Saturday morning at 9:30am.

- Tim

HFA wrote,
> 50 First Dates in 2.35:1 looked REALLY GOOD this morning. <

Yo, FanAtic, I'll echo Darrin... which channel?

If Cinemax, that would be very interesting, because both times previously that it aired on HBO, it was 1.78. Unfortunately, I see only a single airing left, Saturday morning at 9:30am.

- Tim

Movie Central HD

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http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3461/cabinfever29pf.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1092/cabinfever34rx.png (http://imageshack.us)

ok now where are the "good" pictures...and by good pictures, I mean the ones with exposed breasteses!!!

ok now where are the "good" pictures...and by good pictures, I mean the ones with exposed breasteses!!!

I decided not to post those scenes to make the moderators happy.

Odd, because Cabin Fever has been on HBO before Cropped.

I think this is the first occurance where a movie has showed up cropped on HBO first, then Cinemax OAR later. Ususally it's the other way around.

HFA,
> Movie Central HD <

Thanks. Those shots did look very clean.

- Tim

P.S. Dave, no, not MAX, though it is airing there this month too (and coming around again in March on HBO). It was MC-HD, presumably on BEV.

Antwone Fisher looked good in OAR this evening

Anyone know is Cast Away comming on ABCHD Saturday night will be OAR? http://abc.go.com/movies/castaway.html

Anyone know is Cast Away comming on ABCHD Saturday night will be OAR? http://abc.go.com/movies/castaway.html


Since it has an ABC-HD logo on on the bottom of the webpage you posted, what do you think?

FanAtic, what are you using to get the HD grabs?

Typiclally either Womble MPEG-VCR as a .bmp and then convert it to .png or .jpg with Photoshop or just a straight VLC capture.

Since it has an ABC-HD logo on on the bottom of the webpage you posted, what do you think?
Even if they crop it, shouldn't be that big of a big deal, since Castaway was shot in 1.85:1. You'd lose... .07 of the width. It's a 52px crop on the width of a 720p picture (I know that calculation doesn't really make sense). Now, Forrest Gump the Saturday after is a different story if it gets cropped.

1.85:1 films just have the mattes moved out a bit to fit 1.78:1, which means no cropping. Just a tad extra info.

Even if they crop it, shouldn't be that big of a big deal, since Castaway was shot in 1.85:1. You'd lose... .07 of the width. It's a 52px crop on the width of a 720p picture (I know that calculation doesn't really make sense). Now, Forrest Gump the Saturday after is a different story if it gets cropped.


Correct.

Concerning Forrest Gump, ABC HAS shown it OAR at least twice before. I doubt they will obtain a new cropped transfer.

Legally Blond - OAR & 5.1, on FOX!

Since it has an ABC-HD logo on on the bottom of the webpage you posted, what do you think?
i dont really know. im pretty new to all of this and just trying to learn. cant you just tell me instead of being smart about it? all im doing is asking a simple question for hells sake.

Legally Blond - OAR & 5.1, on FOX!

Yes, but unfortunately, it's widescreen SD, same as the last time it aired. And the 5.1 is not "real" -- it's derived from 2-channel Pro-Logic. Oh, and it's time-compressed as well ...

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You can really see the thick coloration, edge enhancement, and lack of detail with the DVD when compared to the shot above.

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Wasn't L.A. Confidential OAR on HBO a while back?

Wasn't L.A. Confidential OAR on HBO a while back?

Most recently, it was OAR on Cinemax.

Thanks

I should have recorded it on HBO. :(

But just 2.0. The DVD soundtrack is vastly superior.

Wasn't L.A. Confidential OAR on HBO a while back?

yes it was.

I caught the end of Napolean Dynamite on HBO yesterday morning and it appeared to be OAR or just slightly cropped from its 1.85:1 aspect ratio.

I caught the end of Napolean Dynamite on HBO yesterday morning and it appeared to be OAR or just slightly cropped from its 1.85:1 aspect ratio.You don't have to post those. Just 2.35 ratios and others.

For Richer or Poorer on Universal HD (http://www.universalhd.com/Movies/) . 2.35 or so aspect ration ad DD5.1/

Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure was on either HBO or Cinemax tonight at approx 2.35:1 but was only DD2.0.

Kurt

The Alamo on Starz HD - 2/21

The Alamo on Starz HD - 2/21

It doesn't say so in the title, but we're only tracking HD transfers. The Alamo is an upconvert.

The Alamo is coming in HD in April...according to the press release.

Yes, but unfortunately, it's widescreen SD, same as the last time it aired. And the 5.1 is not "real" -- it's derived from 2-channel Pro-Logic. Oh, and it's time-compressed as well ...Sorry.......

Just a general question... which of the premium channels between HBO, Starz and Showtime most consistently shows films in it's OAR? I currently have HBO and they seem rather inconsistent. I've seen Contact, Les Miserables, I Know What You Did Last Summer and Oceans Twelve on the network OAR, but Scream and some other movies have been cropped.

Showtime for sure. They actually seem to care.
HBO tries to crop everything to 16:9 but they still show some OAR transfers from before when they started that policy, and some content owners require OAR which is why you see it from time to time.

Don't know about Starz-HD, perhaps someone who gets it can comment.

STARZ HD has improved lately with their OAR offerings. Now they show most of their BUena Vista catelog in HD/OAR, not the horrible upconverts they used to.

The Island in OAR and a wonderful 17.57Mbps bitrate.

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Frankly, Scarlett, we DO give a damn....

The Island in OAR and a wonderful 17.57Mbps bitrate.


On what station?

The Island in OAR and a wonderful 17.57Mbps bitrate.

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Frankly, Scarlett, we DO give a damn....


Too bad the movie was so awful it was hard to sit through.

If you turned your brain off it is a good movie.

If you turned your brain off it is a good movie.

When Scarlett looks like that, the plot doesn't have to be good :D

HDTVFanatic,

I believe that D* may still be showing this one on HD PPV and open matte. Who showed it as OAR? At that bitrate I was thinking CMoreHD but I don't see their logo.

thanks

gup

DISH PPV via sat 148.

DISH PPV via sat 148.

You sure about that Matt?? I wasn't aware Dish was showing an OAR version and such a high bitrate?

That is what I can recall from memory. I was supposed to get a copy, but it didn't happen. :(

sorry....i shouldn't post overnight and leave off info. I hate posting the same stuff in multiple threads and sometimes I assume I posted some element somewhere that I didn't :(

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=57180

and you can see the issue with 2.35:1 on the open.

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Note the corners.