Hi. I have the standard HD receiver (not a DVR) and would like to know what to expect when DS is available. I use the box for HD locals only since I only have basic cable through Comcast. What channels will I see this change on? If someone could explain how this will work I would really appreciate it..Thanks!

Basically the analog channel selected by your box would map to the DS channel in the digital range and that is what would be displayed on your tv. For Example if you tuned to channel 3 your box will map to 303 and that is what you will see. All mapped DS channels will be in the 300 range.

Another way to tell if you are getting a DS channel you will see the dolby symbol when pressing info on the channel.

Thanks for the reply. So this means all analog local channels will be mapped to a DS channel?

Yes they are doing it channel by channel until they are complete.

Phod,

I have Comcast basic 1 (~$10) plus HD receiver (Motorola 62xx) ($10/month)

Hey guys. I'm having D* HD installed this afternoon. Is there anywhere to see what programming is available on a regular basis in HD? Open air and satellite information would be great.

For instance, how would i see if Monday Night Football is scheduled to be broadcast in HD here locally... or whether the local CBS will show CSI on Thursday night in HD.

Thanks for any help.

TitanTV.com

www.hdsportsguide.com - not local but a good guide

There are others but these are the two I use -- please remember these are not always 100% correct. also check the forum -- HDTV Programming section

Thank you very much for the very quick response.

OK guys.. I got everything installed and pretty much all is well. However, I am not picking up 25-1 or 25-2. I have tried it using the D* receiver (H10) as well as the built in tuner on my TV. All the other digital channels come in fine. Any ideas? I'm on the westside in the Picketville area. Zip code is 32254. I tried antennaweb and I have the antenna pointing at 122 degrees per that information. No luck..

What does your signal indicator say? Remember to view your signal meter you must tune to the appropriate rf channel (see below)

# ABC - WJXX 25 (rf 10)
# CBS - WTEV 47 (rf 19)
# FOX - WAWS 30 (rf 32)
# NBC - WTLV 12 (rf 13)
# PBS - WJCT 7 (rf 38)
# WB - WJWB 17 (rf 34)
# Independent - WJXT 4 (rf 42)
# TBN - WJEB 59 - (rf 44)

What type of antenna are you using? Indoor or outdoor? Keep in mind moving it 1 inch left/right or up/down will have an affect on reception.

What does your signal indicator say? Remember to view your signal meter you must tune to the appropriate rf channel (see below)

# ABC - WJXX 25 (rf 10)
# CBS - WTEV 47 (rf 19)
# FOX - WAWS 30 (rf 32)
# NBC - WTLV 12 (rf 13)
# PBS - WJCT 7 (rf 38)
# WB - WJWB 17 (rf 34)
# Independent - WJXT 4 (rf 42)
# TBN - WJEB 59 - (rf 44)

What type of antenna are you using? Indoor or outdoor? Keep in mind moving it 1 inch left/right or up/down will have an affect on reception.

Channel 25 doesnt even show up at all on the signal indicator piece. How do i change to rf channels? I dont understand that piece. I'm using an H-10 receiver w/ and outdoor antenna. i've tried it 1 inch l and r and even more than that. I'm getting 95+ on the other channels but like I said, channel 25 doesnt show up at all.

First things first - go into your setup of the H10 and redo the local channel setup, just redo your zipcode, it will rescan all your locals. If that doesn't work, exit the menu system and manually tune to ABC's rf channel which is 10-1 - just use your remote and enter 10-1, it should remap to 25-1 if you are getting a signal.

If that doesn't work, grab a beer and let us know.

First things first - go into your setup of the H10 and redo the local channel setup, just redo your zipcode, it will rescan all your locals. If that doesn't work, exit the menu system and manually tune to ABC's rf channel which is 10-1 - just use your remote and enter 10-1, it should remap to 25-1 if you are getting a signal.

If that doesn't work, grab a beer and let us know.
Ok. I reselected the local network, Jacksonville, and then rescanned the channels. CHannel 25 doesnt come up at all. Not 25, not 25-1, not 25-2 and not 10-1.

I tried to manually tune to EACH one of the above, including the 10-1 and it told me channel not available for each one. (25 tuned in but I still have local channels through D* -- through the dish, not the open air)

Any more ideas?

I am so distraught that i'm not going to be able to watch my first Monday Night football game in HD

Do you get NBC? what does your receiver say when you are on NBC? 12-1?

Didnt even realize that NBC didnt come in either. I have channel 4, 7, 17, 30 and 47.
Channel 4 has 4, 4-1, 4-2.
Channel 7: 7, 7-1, 7-2, 7-3, 7-4.
Channel 17: 17, 17-1, 17-2.
Channel 30: 30, 30-1.
Channel 47: 47, 47-1.

Anyone out there have any more ideas?? Am I just out of luck??

Since 10 (25-1) and 13 (12-1) are both in the VHF band, I started wondering if there is something wrong with those elements in your antenna. Do you have a rabbit ears antenna that you could temporarily hook up?

If not mechanical, then the only other thing is what Jeff suggested and I know to be true from experience: moving the antenna slightly to the left or right, or up or down can cause a station to pop in or out. If you review the orientation on www.antennaweb.org, you will see that the tower for ABC/NBC is several degrees away from the other stations. That, for me, was enough to cause some stations to pop in and out, until I found the "sweet spot". That literally meant moving the antenna by as little as 1/2" increments. A pain to be sure, but that is what it took.

I've mentioned this before in this thread, but my problem child is WAWS 30. To get it, I have had to install an A/B switch and use a Terk HDTVi installed in the garage to get it. All the other stations come in just fine.

Some people have given up and just sign up for Comcast which gives most of the local HD stations. D* will be offering local in local hopefully sometime next year. Until then, it is messing with the antenna for OTA.

Oh, and by the way, welcome to the forum.

Meh!! Thanks for the information. That was what I was afraid of. I really like my D* though. I watched CSI Miami in HD for the first time last night and it was FANTASTIC!!

There is some ABC programming that i'd love to see in HD as well. :(

TCastle - give us details of your outdoor antenna? size, type, location, how high up etc.

Peter is correct NBC and ABC are VHF channels so you will need an antenna to address this if yours is not already UHF/VHF ready

By the way - I am south of you in Orange Park, just off of Doctor's Lake and I have a large UHF/VHF outdoor antenna on a 35' mast (much like this one -- http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=56239-000000693-3020&lpage=none )

TCastle - give us details of your outdoor antenna? size, type, location, how high up etc.

Peter is correct NBC and ABC are VHF channels so you will need an antenna to address this if yours is not already UHF/VHF ready

By the way - I am south of you in Orange Park, just off of Doctor's Lake and I have a large UHF/VHF outdoor antenna on a 35' mast (much like this one -- http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=56239-000000693-3020&lpage=none )

It is the small wire, square-shaped one that D* gives for free with the HD package install. I have it mounted on a 20' mast. I dont have a 'clear' shot at the skyline because of some trees about 100 yards away.

Edit: it is 14x12 with two wire "X's" on the front.

I might keep playing with your antenna - but personally, I would go to Home Depot/Lowes and purchase one like the link I have above - I am almost willing to bet that will fix your problem - I am not sure but the antenna you have must not pick up VHF (ABC/NBC) very well or in your case at all.

it is worth the 50-75 bucks, especially since you already have the mast and wiring to the mast done

Is channel 17 and 25 the only VHF stations? Is 4 and 7 and 12 UHF??

VHF channels are rf channels 13 & under:

# ABC - WJXX 25 (rf 10) - VHF
# CBS - WTEV 47 (rf 19) - UHF
# FOX - WAWS 30 (rf 32)- UHF
# NBC - WTLV 12 (rf 13)- VHF
# PBS - WJCT 7 (rf 38)- UHF
# WB - WJWB 17 (rf 34)- UHF
# Independent - WJXT 4 (rf 42) - UHF
# TBN - WJEB 59 - (rf 44)- UHF

So ABC 25 (rf - 10) and NBC 12(rf -13) are the only VHF channels in Jax (OTA - over the air) all others are UHF

Well then that pretty much makes plenty of sense. This antenna that D* installed prolly isnt capable of picking up VHF... why they'd put something up like that I don't know. Kinda peeves me to be honest.

For future information...
The small, wire-style antenna that D* installs for over air HD channels is UHF only. This information came from their tier 2 technical support.

I complained that they would sell me something that wouldnt work for my area when they don't supply local channels yet via the dish. They gave me enough credits to offset the cost of buying another antenna. Cudo's to D* for at least trying to make it right.

BTW- They did tell me that this area would not receive local programming in HD via the dish (the new format) until *maybe* winter of 2006 but more likely spring of 2007. Don't know how "in the know" this person was but I'm just forwarding what I was told by tier 2 support.

BTW- They did tell me that this area would not receive local programming in HD via the dish (the new format) until *maybe* winter of 2006 but more likely spring of 2007. Don't know how "in the know" this person was but I'm just forwarding what I was told by tier 2 support.

That's good to know, thanks.

Hope your quest for a good outdoor antenna (some people have tried attic mounting with good results) goes well. Just keep in mind everything said so far about aiming it and you should be fine.

Hope your quest for a good outdoor antenna goes well

Thanks. I'll prolly just go get that one that Jeff is using. Seems straight forward enough. If its working for him, it should work for me.

Well, as noted before December 6th came and went and we still don't have WB in HD. Any other word on when it might be added? I am looking forward to that.

For future information...
The small, wire-style antenna that D* installs for over air HD channels is UHF only. This information came from their tier 2 technical support.

I complained that they would sell me something that wouldnt work for my area when they don't supply local channels yet via the dish. They gave me enough credits to offset the cost of buying another antenna. Cudo's to D* for at least trying to make it right.

BTW- They did tell me that this area would not receive local programming in HD via the dish (the new format) until *maybe* winter of 2006 but more likely spring of 2007. Don't know how "in the know" this person was but I'm just forwarding what I was told by tier 2 support.
TCastle
My son is over 40 miles north af Jax and gets all the DTV stations with a outside UHF Radio Shack U75 pn. 15-2160 ($25) I am in SC 150 miles north and get Jax stations over 50% of the time.
If you guys would get Real ants you could get all the stations.
Forget clipon dish, Terks and that type JUNK.

TCastle
My son is over 40 miles north af Jax and gets all the DTV stations with a outside UHF Radio Shack U75 pn. 15-2160 ($25) I am in SC 150 miles north and get Jax stations over 50% of the time.
If you guys would get Real ants you could get all the stations.
Forget clipon dish, Terks and that type JUNK.

Thanks for the information. I am definately looking at getting a REAL antenna. :)

I ran into Peter's issue.. took about 30 minutes of minute tweaks to peak out all the channels--previously I wasn't getting FOX, so I tweaked it in, and paid the price by screwing over the other 2. After looking at maps and compasses, etc. I figured out that I pointed the antenna too far north, (no matter the compass reading.. maybe a declination issue) so I slowly brought it back east (I live in Julington Creek, just off Racetrack and Bishop Estates) and kept checking signal strength.. nailed it and went past, just to ensure I had the sweet spot and moved it back. Right now, everyone's at least 70 on my HR10-250, with a couple of stations well into the 80s and 90s.

Antenna is a cheapie even... Phillips model PHDVTV2. Just got it to make sure I had SOMETHING to use when the Plasma and DVR got in, with the idea I'd move up to a "real" antenna if need be. I will still likely change the antenna out, but for now, everything's working well, inside the attic. I'm around 11.8 miles out and about a 5 degree spread on the broadcast antennas. I'm lucky, no question about it.

WJWBD has shown up on 174 on comcast as a channel in the menu, but it is not playing yet. i know sometimes different parts of town get these first. someone post when they finally see it please.

dan

ok.. i have it now...

WJWBD came on about 8:00 p.m. here...just in time for Smallville.

FYI - from what I hear - WJWB is going Full power soon (OTA )

does anybody know what channel wjwb is in Qam ?

nevermind I found it it's 73.1

Hi..I need some help. I was having an isue with my Comcast HD receiver where certain channels such as channels 27 and 28 were not tuning in. Both looked like they are now digital channels when looking at the banner. Also, when channel 174 came on line I got the "One moment please" message and the channel never tuned. I exchanged the receiver today and I have the same exact issue. Does anyone have any suggestions on what could be causing this?

Anyone else not getting 5.1 from the Eagles/Giants game on Fox? I'm watching through Comcast and the sound is also very low.

5.1 Ota

Hi..I need some help. I was having an isue with my Comcast HD receiver where certain channels such as channels 27 and 28 were not tuning in. Both looked like they are now digital channels when looking at the banner. Also, when channel 174 came on line I got the "One moment please" message and the channel never tuned. I exchanged the receiver today and I have the same exact issue. Does anyone have any suggestions on what could be causing this?

I had the same problem with some channels before when I used a splitter to separate the signal into feeding both the cable stb and my tv so I can use split screens on my tv. You may want to check your wirings inside and outside your house. Any weak connections can cause the problem. I also had the problem couple of months back during prime time (8 pm to 11 pm) when lots of people in my neighborhood were either using their cable modem or watching cable. I called them a couple times before the problem was fixed (they may have increase the strength by adding repeaters). Good luck.

PSPun

I am thinking of building an HTPC with My HD-130. With comcast expanded basic cable (no digital package) Will I be able to pick up the Qam channels like Discovery, Inhdtv 1 and 2, TNT? Are these channels scrambled? I just called Comcast and in order to get these HD channels I have to subscribe to the digital basic package. They only offer the network HD channels for $10 more a month without digital basic channels. I would rather try an antenna than give more money to Comcast.

Does anyone out there with a HDTV with an ASTC tuner or a HTPC with a Qam tuner card able to get all Qam channels listed on page 1 with the a basic cable package from Comcast?

I have this card and comcast cable in Jax. I do not get espn hd, or Discovery HD on it. I do get all of the locals, and TNThd on it though. I love the card, and use it to record my weekly programming. Hope this helps.
Troy

Thank you for such a quick reply and the information on the Qam channels offerred by Comcast. You mentioned you loved your MyHD-130. How powerful is your computer? (processor, memory, and type of video card)

MyHD cards work fine in a 900mhz computer with a $10 video card.

WTEV shows their incompetence once again...still waiting.

It's a shame that Post-Newsweek let WJXT drop CBS. No way the management at WJXT would allow the travesty that WTEV has become wrt HD.

Wish y'all have a Happy and Healthy New Year, and lots of HD programs in the new year. A Supper Bowl appearence by the Jaguars would be a great beginning for 2006 (okay, I am asking far too much)!

P S Pun

2006: the year all the Jacksonville stations pass 5.1! You have your fantasies, I have mine!!! :)

And yes, a happy and prosperous New Year to all.

My New Year's wish is that all the local stations flip the switch without delay - I'm really very easy to please. Passing 5.1 would be great also but I know that's probably expecting too much.

nevermind I found it it's 73.1

Is Jax Comcast carrying WB HD now? If so, can anyone say which RF channel? I get nothing on 73-1 with my MyHD card.

Anybody getting WBHD with a QAM PCHD card?

- Tom

Yes, Comcast now carries WBHD. RF is at 17-1.

WTEV did another Sunday night in SD. UnF'ing believable. They should lose their license.

WBHD is on qam 105.4 for me

Wha's up with WTEV-DT 47-1 OTA? I have 2 tuners - one MyHD & 1 Ratshack and neither one has gotten a signal since last night.

Actually I do get a signal strength of 92 out of 100 but just a blank screen. Like they are transmitting - just not carrying a feed.

Any one else confirm this?

Hope they get it fixed in time for football

TIA

HD_Hobbit

I watched Ghost Whisperer last night with no problems, and I just flicked on the TV (3:40 PM) and was getting a signal.

Wild thought: my ability to pull in OTA is measured in inches (not an exaggeration) with the aiming of the antenna. We've been having some high winds here. Is it possible that is affecting your antenna?

Even wilder: I'm assuming the transmission towers are well secured, but I wonder if they moved ever so slightly if that could knock a signal off of a receiver.

WBHD is on qam 105.4 for me

Thanks. Got it now. It looks like my MyHD card does not add new sub-channels to an existing channel without a full channel scan.

- Tom

WBHD is on qam 105.4 for me

By the way, welcome to the forum. :)

WTEV-DT by any other name? - 47-1 still out

Well - they have changed something and it is not my 2 tuners or antenna.

I just had to change the channel to 19-1 - so go figure. 47-1 has been THE number for years - not a problem just programmed in 19-1 & I am good to go for the Pats/Broncos game later today.

Have to believe the station made some kind of PSIP or some such change nonsense.

LOL - they can call the station FRED at 66 for all i care - as long as I can tune it - LOL

HD_Hobbit - now a happy camper. - thanks for the responses.

Technically, 19-1 is WTEV's frequency. On the old Hughes e86 I had been using before getting the HD DVR, I could key in either 19-1 or 47-1 and pull in the station.

Maybe something in whatever you are using is having trouble with the remap. Though, as you say, as long as you now get a lock...what the hey!!

Thanks - considering both a PC HT tuner and a seperate HD Radio Shack tuner both worked with 47-1 and now don't the chances of 2 independent tuners going wacky are at same time are pretty slim. 19-1 works on both - now. Both were set up long ago with an auto scan and 47-1 is what got scanned in & setup.

Kinda funny - I was about to climb onto the roof and check antenna until I realized I should check out 19-1. Yes 19-1 is the digital and I guess 47-1 is a mirror id based on the analog channel number.

I wonder why HDTV is not quite mainstream - LOL. Maybe CBS local is getting ready for 5.1 dolby?

Thanks

The playoff game Pitt and Indy is very jittery over Comcast HD.

I watched the Pitt-Indy game on Comcast HD and didn't see any jitters. This was on the Moto DVR box.

Heck of an exciting game.

Just wanted to pass on, I did a scan of the Qam channels on comcast cable, and I got many of the new digital stations in the clear. It seems they are simulcasting, and I picked up at least 20 new channels using my Myhd 130 card. Just wanted to pass this on. Troy.

Anyone else having bad pixel/lock issues with WJWB tonight? Supernatural isn't coming in HD at all and is unwatchable...

newbie here, to the board, and the world of OTA HDTV. Just got my equipment yesterday, hooked it all up, and I was AMAZED at my reception. Every channel comes in crystal clear............EXCEPT WJXX ABC. I have tried every antenna position I can think of. I can't even get a whiff of a single signal bar. I have tried tuning into 10 and 25, no go. Am I missing something? I am in Yulee, FL, and according to AntennaWeb, I amd about 25 miles from everything. It stands to reason that if I can get the other channels, I should at least get a hit sometime on WJXX, right? Look forward to your responses!

Anyone else having bad pixel/lock issues with WJWB tonight? Supernatural isn't coming in HD at all and is unwatchable...

I tried my first WB QAM timer recording on that show. It was not in HD and experienced many pauses during playback on my MyHD 130. Hopefully this was a one time thing since my OTA WB reception isn't very good and I had high hopes for it being added to Comcast.

- Tom

Okay, now I'm trying to watch my Comcast recording of Smallville tonight and that is not in HD either. Is Comcast carryng WBHD now in Jax or just the brain dead SD channel?

Is anything on Comcast WB HD here?

- Tom

newbie here, to the board, and the world of OTA HDTV. Just got my equipment yesterday, hooked it all up, and I was AMAZED at my reception. Every channel comes in crystal clear............EXCEPT WJXX ABC. I have tried every antenna position I can think of. I can't even get a whiff of a single signal bar. I have tried tuning into 10 and 25, no go. Am I missing something? I am in Yulee, FL, and according to AntennaWeb, I amd about 25 miles from everything. It stands to reason that if I can get the other channels, I should at least get a hit sometime on WJXX, right? Look forward to your responses!

Just out of curiosity, can you pick up NBC (13-1 digital remapped to 12-1)?

If you are having trouble with that as well, it could be that your VHF antenna isn't strong enough to lock on the signal. ABC and NBC are the only two VHF stations, all the rest are UHF.

The WB on Comcast is the same as OTA. Lately, many have been either SD or unwatchable HD.

The WB on Comcast is the same as OTA. Lately, many have been either SD or unwatchable HD.


I noticed that to last night (OTA) smallville in SD, their issues might be because of their transition to full power? Just a guess

Well, heck, if they are going to full power then maybe I won't even need Comcast for the WB. My problem is I'm out by Jax Beach, East of directional antennas pointing West. But on good days I could already get the WB with my attic antenna so extra power might do the job.

When are they supposed to be at full power? I haven't tried WB OTA recently.

- Tom

A little birdy informed me back in early December that they were currently (at that time) doing demolition to make room for new transmitter and should be complete Spring 2006.

For anyone that has the Comcast 6412 Phase III box, are you having any issues with the HDMI connection? I'm currently using component on a plasma display but I'm considering using the HDMI connection with a new DLP on order.

scolumbo - I have a friend that just got this box and is having an issue with HDMI, he is a complete newbie when it comes to HDTV - so I am suppose to go down and take a look at his setup.

It might just be that he doesn't have the box or his tv setup properly -- I'll let you know as soon as I can get down their

Gator99-
Thanks, I'd appreciate any info.

Scott

For anyone that has the Comcast 6412 Phase III box, are you having any issues with the HDMI connection? I'm currently using component on a plasma display but I'm considering using the HDMI connection with a new DLP on order.

There are current issues w/ 6412 passing 5.1 audio via HDMI due to the the 12.18 firmware.....supposedly these issues were solved in the new firmware update (12.22 I think)- but this update has only been delivered to the 'all digital' 3412 boxes. A comcast rep told me that these boxes are currently on order.

IIRC HDMI will not work on analog channels, so you will not get all of the channels via HDMI until the digital remap/simulcast is complete. So I don't think it's a good idea to bother w/ HDMI until 3412 boxes are issued (unless your 6412 has 12.22 firmware, which hasn't been delivered in this area, or at least on my side of town).

A little birdy informed me back in early December that they were currently (at that time) doing demolition to make room for new transmitter and should be complete Spring 2006.

I just called WJWB to see if they would be back broadcasting in HD in time for the 100th episode of Smallville this Thursday.

Although miracles are always possible, it seems it may be another week or two before the new digital equipment is installed and tested. :confused:

Thanks Floss for the update, I'll let my friend know.

Peter - thanks for the update as well.

I'm on firmware 12.18 also so I think I'll wait.

I didn't realize the 3412 boxes would be arriving already. I thought the 6412/III boxes only became available a few months ago. Comcast is certainly rolling out new hardware on a frequent basis.

Does anyone know if QAM # 111-1 (FOX HD) is working correctly? I get 'NO SIGNAL' with my QAM tuner. Did it move to another QAM channel? Thanks for any insight...

It is gone for me as well.

Hmm, well that is strange since it is a local channel. I re-scanned and can't find FOX HD anywhere. Someone let us know if they can find FOX HD on QAM. Thanks.

Anyone know if/when comcast will get ESPN2HD?
Personally, I would of much rather have seen this added than WBHD.

Thanks,
Robert

it seems that comcast is remapping their channels...again...sigh

it seems that comcast is remapping their channels...again...sigh

Yeah, it sure would be nice if someone would figure out how virtual channel mapping works on cable and implement it into my various PCHD cards. Refinding all the channels is a pain.

- Tom

Just noticed that WJWB 17 was back broadcasting in HD tonight.

My biggest problem is being unable to get NBC 12. I can get 4, 7, 25, 30, and 47 just fine with a channel master antenna. I am in what is considered old Arlington and I am less than 7 miles from any transmitter. No matter what I do the NBC signal is marginal at best and when I adjust the antenna to get what little signal I can from 12 I lose most of the other stations.

My biggest problem is being unable to get NBC 12. I can get 4, 7, 25, 30, and 47 just fine with a channel master antenna. I am in what is considered old Arlington and I am less than 7 miles from any transmitter. No matter what I do the NBC signal is marginal at best and when I adjust the antenna to get what little signal I can from 12 I lose most of the other stations.

Usually if you can pick up 25 (10-1) then you can pick up 12 (13-1) since they are the only 2 VHF digital stations.

Is there any chance that some of the VHF elements on your antenna are bent, broken, or in some way out of trim? These digital stations can be a bear to pull in. Sometimes as little as an inch or two (or less), can make the difference between getting it or not.

None of the elements are bent or broken that I can see. I got up on the roof again today to check it out and try to adjust it some more and came up empty. I have a channel master 3016.
25-1 is only in the upper 50's for signal strength. I get a stronger signal from 17-1 than I do 25-1. 12-1 is in the 20's and I can't get a signal lock. According to antennaweb 12-1 is going to be the most difficult to pick up. I'd like to think it is just a poor VHF signal being sent out from 12-1 and 25-1.

None of the elements are bent or broken that I can see. I got up on the roof again today to check it out and try to adjust it some more and came up empty. I have a channel master 3016.
25-1 is only in the upper 50's for signal strength. I get a stronger signal from 17-1 than I do 25-1. 12-1 is in the 20's and I can't get a signal lock. According to antennaweb 12-1 is going to be the most difficult to pick up. I'd like to think it is just a poor VHF signal being sent out from 12-1 and 25-1.


I'm 35 miles away from ABC 25 & get a very strong signal using a channel master 4228. Could be time for an upgrade its only about $40 @ www.warrenelectronics.com just a thought.........

anyone hear anything on UHD for comcast? I hear some areas in the country are picking it up on QAM from comcast. supposedly after the superbowl, and before the olympics start areas will either get the channel full time or it will show on inhd2. i hope we get the channel.

anyone hear anything on UHD for comcast? I hear some areas in the country are picking it up on QAM from comcast. supposedly after the superbowl, and before the olympics start areas will either get the channel full time or it will show on inhd2. i hope we get the channel.

Same here. I want Battlestar Galactica in HD.

Once again we aren't getting any OTA WB on 17.1 !!!

Anyone know what their problem is? That's like the 3rd Supernatural episode that I missed because Tivo recorded a blank signal for 17.1. :mad:

My tuner is picking up more Comcast HD channels:

TNT-HD 72.2
PBS-DT 114.1
CBS-DT 114.2

unfortunately, no UHD :(

Once again we aren't getting any OTA WB on 17.1 !!!

Anyone know what their problem is? That's like the 3rd Supernatural episode that I missed because Tivo recorded a blank signal for 17.1. :mad:

I was getting an HD signal...just no sound. Glad I caught it so I could switch to the SD feed.

Yea thanks WB 17, no sound on my Tivo'd show. Brilliant work.

My tuner is picking up more Comcast HD channels:

TNT-HD 72.2
PBS-DT 114.1
CBS-DT 114.2

unfortunately, no UHD :(

Is FOX-HD on Comcast QAM? I can't find it...... the old 111-1 is no longer there..

Has anyone ever written WB-17 to find out why they can't manage to broadcast sound during primetime programming on 17.1?

I just bought the Sony HD DVR (DHG-HDD500) at Sound Advice for $250 (retail $700).
It has 500GB and can record ATSC/QAM/Cablecard channels. They still have a few left in stock.

I found it out from the thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7090240#post7090240

Has anyone ever written WB-17 to find out why they can't manage to broadcast sound during primetime programming on 17.1?

Actually, I called the station not that long ago when they weren't broadcasting in HD. I was told at the time that they were installing new equipment.

I see that they are back in HD. I suspect the sound issue is part of the tweaking they are doing.

If you want to call them for an update: 904-641-1700

Is FOX-HD on Comcast QAM? I can't find it...... the old 111-1 is no longer there..

No FOX here either.......but UHD has finally shown up on the moto, ch. 181 :)

taichinanda, which Sound Advice?

Orange Park had 2 but my friends bought them all. Southside still had 5 when I called at 3pm.

Universal HD is now on QAM channel 111.1

PSPUN - can you update the 1st post in this thread with correct channels and what is available?

Edit: Ok, now fox and tnt are on 106.1 and 106.2 ... which makes more sense... hope this will stay like this

so here is a list of all the channels I get (minus all the digital simulcast ones)
tried to make it neat for you guys :cool:

INHD - QAM # 103.1
INHD2 - QAM # 103.2
INHD:SE - QAM # 103.3
ABC HD - QAM # 104.1
NBC HD - QAM # 104.2
*NBC WeatherPlus - QAM # 104.3
WB HD - QAM # 105.4
FOX HD - QAM # 106.1
TNT HD - QAM # 106.2
Universal HD - QAM # 111.1
PBS HD - QAM # 114.1
*PBS - QAM # 114.4 , 114.5 , 114.6
CBS HD - QAM # 114.2

Universal HD is now on QAM channel 111.1


Or channel 181, for us Comcast types. I was pleased to see a message on my STB this morning alerting me to UHD. I was able to watch the tail-end of an old episode of Knight Rider this AM, then some HD content with the Goo Goo Dolls.

Hopefully it will stick around after the Olympics.

yea, fox hd is on 72.1 i think, will find out for sure tonight, TV says 720p, so im guessing it is.

so here is a list of all the channels I get (minus all the digital simulcast ones)
tried to make it neat for you guys :cool:

FOX HD - QAM # 72.1
TNT HD - QAM # 72.2
INHD - QAM # 103.1
INHD2 - QAM # 103.2
INHD:SE - QAM # 103.3
ABC HD - QAM # 104.1
NBC HD - QAM # 104.2
*NBC WeatherPlus - QAM # 104.3
WB HD - QAM # 105.4
Universal HD - QAM # 111.1
PBS HD - QAM # 114.1
*PBS - QAM # 114.4 , 114.5 , 114.6
CBS HD - QAM # 114.2

Thanks for the info, good stuff....

Orange Park had 2 but my friends bought them all. Southside still had 5 when I called at 3pm.

No more Sony's at Sound Advice. Somebody bought 80 of them, probably after seeing this post, probably looking to make a buck on eBay.

If anyone has an extra one, i'll take it off your hands for what you paid + 50 bucks...

Thanks.

I got one at Southside yesterday. There were 4 left there, 1 at Regency.

I just bought the Sony HD DVR (DHG-HDD500) at Sound Advice for $250 (retail $700).
It has 500GB and can record ATSC/QAM/Cablecard channels. They still have a few left in stock.

I found it out from the thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7090240#post7090240


Do those DVR's have Dual-Tuners?

Anyone watch the Olympic opening ceremonies? There is a main thread on this, but I was wondering how we were doing locally. I was watching OTA. Lots of macroblocking with even simple movement. I wish WTLV would get rid of that useless weather sub-channel.

Anyone with the Sony DVR get FoxHD in your TVGOS? I only show Ch30 and can receive 30-1 using channel+. That's useless for recording purposes.

And does anyone know how to get the QAM channels? Such as 72.1

It's been a while since I frequented this forum but in the last couple of weeks I've been seeing a problem that I need some help solving. I've been using the DirectTV Tivo HR10-250 receiver for one year and it's worked wonderfully both for satellite reception as well as local OTA HD broadcasts. However over the past 2 maybe 3 weeks, my HD OTA recordings are seeing a lot of digital dropouts. Sometimes it's the whole show and sometimes it's perfectly clear for the first 30 minutes and then unwatchable. The dropouts for the most part occur at a rhythmic pace but once the entire hour was a solid breakup. I have a roof mounted yagi pointed at the Southside antenna farm which is only 7 miles away.

Mostly seeing this on CBS 47-1 (the network I watch the most) but have had it happen on 13-1 and little on 10-1. Again, never had this happen for the entire year I've used this equipment until the last couple of weeks. The most recent recording where this happened was the 2nd half of Thursday night's CSI Vegas show and "Without a Trace".

Is anyone else seeing these problems? This is the sort of thing you'd expect to see with bad weather but these problems are showing up on clear evenings too.

Any ideas or suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks!

I also have the Directv Tivo HR10-250 and have seen similar issues.

It had been just PBS and Fox. However, since WB installed their new equipment (which I am guessing is completed now), I am also getting periodic breakups on it. This happens less so on CBS and ABC.

I've tried to find a pattern between time of day/weather conditions/amount of wind/whatever, but haven't found a correlation.

In addition to the antenna, I have a TERK HD indoor antenna installed in the garage, along with a remote control A/B switch I got at Radio Shack. I've found that switching over to the "aux" antenna sometimes helps. Isn't OTA wonderful?

I can see why some have opted for Comcast, but I'm not willing to give up D* (and the Tivo!). Hopefully we will be in the 2007 wave of LiL.

I know this doesn't help your situation, other than to confirm you aren't imagining things.

Anyone watch the Olympic opening ceremonies? There is a main thread on this, but I was wondering how we were doing locally. I was watching OTA. Lots of macroblocking with even simple movement. I wish WTLV would get rid of that useless weather sub-channel.

Also had extreme macroblocking on WTLV thru Comcast.

While I'm used to seeing macroblocking with fast movement (especially on WTEV's football broadcasts), it was especially poor with even minimal movement on the Olympic ceremonies. On still shots the PQ was outstanding.

Agreed. And yet the fly-overs of Turin -- the mountains and the trees -- looked pretty good. That's what confused me. It seemed that on occasion with just a little movement, the picture turned to confetti.

From the main Olympics Opening Ceremony thread, others are reporting this so it isn't just WTLV, but I sure wish they would turn off the darn weather sub-channel permanently.

Hi Peter,

Thanks for reporting a similar observation. I was actually more concerned that it might be a Tivo problem but your post puts that concern to rest. I have noticed that on some digital channels that the OTA signal level is significantly lower on Tuner#2 than on Tuner#1. Say 80 versus 68. I've been inside my unit and know that these two tuners connect (through a splitter) to same outside antenna jack. I was wondering if maybe the recordings that are poor might be coming through that particular one?

At my house PBS is the strongest signal in Jacksonville and I've not seen the problem on recordings there, but I only watch stuff on that channel a few times a month. I watch CBS, ABC and NBC (in that order of frequency) and that's the same order of occurrence of the problem. Probably just statistical then. The rhythmic pattern of interference started to make me think that some outside transmission interference is going on. I'm directly across the river from NAS and wondered if something new was over there. I suppose a new HAM in the neighborhood might be active though I'm not sure his equipment could cause a reception problem for the digital TV broadcasts.

On the subject of DirectTV, have you heard anything about them adding the National Geographic HD channel?

Thanks!
I also have the Directv Tivo HR10-250 and have seen similar issues.

It had been just PBS and Fox. However, since WB installed their new equipment (which I am guessing is completed now), I am also getting periodic breakups on it. This happens less so on CBS and ABC.

I've tried to find a pattern between time of day/weather conditions/amount of wind/whatever, but haven't found a correlation.

In addition to the antenna, I have a TERK HD indoor antenna installed in the garage, along with a remote control A/B switch I got at Radio Shack. I've found that switching over to the "aux" antenna sometimes helps. Isn't OTA wonderful?

I can see why some have opted for Comcast, but I'm not willing to give up D* (and the Tivo!). Hopefully we will be in the 2007 wave of LiL.

I know this doesn't help your situation, other than to confirm you aren't imagining things.

On the subject of DirectTV, have you heard anything about them adding the National Geographic HD channel?

From what I understand, NGHD is under consideration, but D* never announces things in advance. It surprised me to hear we are getting TNT-HD starting on 2/17 on Channel 75.

There has been so much talk about them concentrating on getting HD locals up, that it didn't seem likely we were going to get any new national channels this year. So, surprise!

Do those DVR's have Dual-Tuners?

Nope, unfortunately. Otherwise, it's a great deal but my recording schedule requires dual tuners. I'm really interested in the new DVR that Comcast is supposedly looking at. Some big thing from Panasonic with a much larger HD if I recall.

I went with my dad last week to pick up a dvr box to hook up to his new/my old plasma and was really excited to see HDMI and SATA ports, but rather upset that the SATA doesn't work. I'm thinking about going the HDMI route with mine but I only have 2 hdmi ports and my dvd player is already occupying one, I was planning on saving the other for a PS3, whenever they come out but I really don't even know if I'd notice any improvement to cable via hdmi.

The NBC olympics intro was really nice, the actual opening ceremony was awful. Besides the macro, it seems that 2/3 of the cameras used weren't really HD.

Nope, unfortunately. Otherwise, it's a great deal but my recording schedule requires dual tuners. I'm really interested in the new DVR that Comcast is supposedly looking at. Some big thing from Panasonic with a much larger HD if I recall.

I went with my dad last week to pick up a dvr box to hook up to his new/my old plasma and was really excited to see HDMI and SATA ports, but rather upset that the SATA doesn't work. I'm thinking about going the HDMI route with mine but I only have 2 hdmi ports and my dvd player is already occupying one, I was planning on saving the other for a PS3, whenever they come out but I really don't even know if I'd notice any improvement to cable via hdmi.

The NBC olympics intro was really nice, the actual opening ceremony was awful. Besides the macro, it seems that 2/3 of the cameras used weren't really HD.

What was the model number for your father's DVR? and does the HDMI work?

6412, I believe it's revision 3 and HDMI works fine on it. I didn't have a chance to do a lot of A/B with it because I was going to use his HDMI port for the upconverting dvd player and had to get all that set up. I believe it also had a coax digital out on the back of it for audio, I don't think mine has that, the optical out also has a little swinging door on it so no more little plugs to keep track of.

PSPUN - can you update the 1st post in this thread with correct channels and what is available?

Sorry, I've been out of town for a while. Please check the first post and let me know if other changes are needed.

pspun

pspun-

For the Comcast lineup, PBS HD is now on 190, and 174 is occupied by WJWB HD

Universal HD is 181.

yea, fox and tnt now moved again, 106.1 and 106.2 respectively

Thanks, guys, I made the changes.

pspun

Saturday night channel 12-1 signal ota kept blanking out for about 1-2 seconds during the Olympics.Did anyone else have this problem? Macroblocking was also very bad.Thanks for any info.

Heavy snow and wind at the NY uplink/downlink

Heavy snow and wind at the NY uplink/downlink

Of course. I keep forgetting that NY weather can affect the signal. Although I thought I had read NBC was going to try an alternate method to avoid this. Guess not.

Well, since Supernatural is just coming on, I figured I'd take a look to see if 17.1 WB would come in this week. At about 8:45pm, Gilmore Girls on 17.1 would not come in... 10 minutes later, pow it comes in...

Turns out that my WB17.1 signal strength was down around 25-35 at 8:45 and then 'magically' went to 40-45 signal strength at 8:55pm. Crazy!

ALL of my other channels are fine, and WB was NEVER a problem locking in. My original signal strength level when I first put up the omni-directional ant. about 3 months ago was 84 for 17.1. So this is simply screaming that whatever WB did with their equipment 'swap' has significantly reduced their signal strength, and/or my ability to lock them in. I haven't touched the outside ant. in 3 months and all other channels are perfect. Frustrating... :mad:












Actually, I called the station not that long ago when they weren't broadcasting in HD. I was told at the time that they were installing new equipment.

I see that they are back in HD. I suspect the sound issue is part of the tweaking they are doing.

If you want to call them for an update: 904-641-1700

yea, fox and tnt now moved again, 106.1 and 106.2 respectively


I don't get anything on rf 106. so I don't have fox or tnt still since it left 111.0 and 111.1. I now see Universal HD on 111.0. I have also lost PBSHD and can't find it.

Here are the channels I currenty get in HD.

103.0 INHD
103.1 INHD2
103.2 INHD SE
104.0 WTLV - NBC-HD
104.1 WJXX - ABC-HD
105.2 WJWB - WB17-HD
111.0 Universal HD
114.0 WTEV - CBS-HD


I have orange park comcast. Are they doing anything different at the different headends. I don't see why they would, I'd assume they control all stations from richard road.

Thanks
Andy

.

I don't get anything on rf 106. so I don't have fox or tnt still since it left 111.0 and 111.1. I now see Universal HD on 111.0. I have also lost PBSHD and can't find it.


yea, they moved fox and tnt again... back to 72.1 and 72.2 ... I dont know what they keep moving the channels...

yea, they moved fox and tnt again... back to 72.1 and 72.2 ... I dont know what they keep moving the channels...

No Signal. I think the expanded basic notch filter is blocking rf 72. I only have basic cable at the house.

Thanks
Andy

No Signal. I think the expanded basic notch filter is blocking rf 72. I only have basic cable at the house.

Thanks
Andy

Fox is a broadcast channel. Comcast may have a problem with the FCC if they place Fox in a frequency filtered out for basic cable users, even if the analog channel is still available.

- Tom

Fox is a broadcast channel. Comcast may have a problem with the FCC if they place Fox in a frequency filtered out for basic cable users, even if the analog channel is still available.

- Tom


Anyone know the ranges of the Comcast (Basic Extended) notch filter? I may go read the number off the filter at the pedestal. I might have a few laying around. I may just take it off momentarily for testing purposes ;) . I think I only have the 3 filters (channel 2, 13-20, and 30-??).

I also have a 750Mhz LPF internal to my distribution system for inserting custom channels on 120 or higher. I know the network was designed at 875mhz when I last worked on local CATV design for Continental/MediaOne/ATT, but I haven't seen any channels above 750 used .

Thanks
Andy

Anyone else having issues with OTA 47.1 this morning? I'm noticing a steady signal strength between 80-90, but every 20-40 seconds, both signal meters drop down to 0-20 and loose lock on my HR10-250.

I just want to make sure my HR10-250 isn't having an issue as it is still under the 1 year coverage.

No Signal. I think the expanded basic notch filter is blocking rf 72. I only have basic cable at the house.

Thanks
Andy

Andy, I have basic cable only on Comcast in Jax and have 72.1 and 72.2 on QAM.....

Andy, I have basic cable only on Comcast in Jax and have 72.1 and 72.2 on QAM.....


Hmm. I still haven't attempted to check the freq range on my filter. I know they did a system wide replacement and added the expanded basic notch filter few years back, so your filter should be the same. Dunno. I still don't get any signal on rf72. My neighbor has also tried with his digital reciever on his plasma with no luck.


Thanks
Andy

So much for Universal HD. It's gone from my moto...

UHD, we barely knew ya.

Actually, the only benefit I got from it's short run is the copy of Lost Highway stored on my box.

I was enjoying old episodes of Quantum Leap and Knight Rider. And a couple of movies. I don't see why Comcast would yank it right back... The one thing I didn't watch on UHD was the Olympics.

Exactly! I was really digging the Equalizer re-runs, I couldn't have cared less about the olympics.

HDSE 165 is gone too.

Well, not a good month for Jax Comcast. In the last couple weeks I've lost UHD, TNT, Fox, and I have no idea if I could ever get HDSE anyway. ESPNHD seems to be gone again too though I'm not a sports fan and never watch it so that might have been gone awhile. And I'm only a limited basic subscriber.

Though mostly I only use Comcast to record WBHD which doesn't come in as reliably OTA for me.

- Tom

trbarry-

Comcast is in the process of juggling their channels around again. I just caught this the other day as an off the cuff comment like- "Oh I heard your show is moving channels again!" me: Where did you hear that from? person in passing: "From the engineers doing it." This is how Comcast notifies its advertisers! Incredulous way to do business but when they have a monopoly, what do you expect? And you think that is just a customer they would let you know this? ha ha ha!

trbarry-

Comcast is in the process of juggling their channels around again. I just caught this the other day as an off the cuff comment like- "Oh I heard your show is moving channels again!" me: Where did you hear that from? person in passing: "From the engineers doing it." This is how Comcast notifies its advertisers! Incredulous way to do business but when they have a monopoly, what do you expect? And you think that is just a customer they would let you know this? ha ha ha!

It's annoying but I've come to expect it. And as I only subscribe to limited basic to get the broadband discount I can't complain too much. I ditched everthing else last year when they tried to raise my rates to keep the DVR.

It is impossible to ever really know but I think the only one of the above lost channels I'm actually entitled to is probably just the Fox HD channel anyway. And I get that just fine OTA with better TitanTV guide interaction so I don't care much there and won't even bother to contact them about it.

- Tom

"won't even bother to contact them about it."

Yes, as I'm sure your time is more valuable. :)

Hey, I can spend it watching HD. ;)

- Tom

It looks like FOX HD is on QAM 105.1 now. I couldn't find TNT HD. It's no longer on 72.2. Has anyone else out there found TNT HD on QAM?

Hey, thx for the heads up on Fox 105.1. Works for me now. And I show WB has moved from 105.4 to 105.2.

But no idea on TNT.

- Tom

Hey, thx for the heads up on Fox 105.1. Works for me now. And I show WB has moved from 105.4 to 105.2.

But no idea on TNT.

- Tom

WB is still on 105.4 for me. Not sure what you mean about 105.2......

Good Day All,

My MCE’s OTA guide does not correctly list WJCT-Kids/HD [D] CHANNEL 7.1 (1071) Network Programming. Instead of the HD programming it list the SD programming for 7.0 . It is my only OTA channel that I have that is incorrect.

Is there a fix?

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Good Day All,

Concerning NBC - WTLV 12 HD (rf 13) 12-1 (MCE 1171)

I recorded all of the Winter Olympics in OTA HD with only an occasional temporary signal drop.

Since the Olympics I no longer pick up WTLV 12.1 on either of my antennas. Does anyone have a similar problem? Comments?

Is there a fix?

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Good Day All,

Concerning NBC - WTLV 12 HD (rf 13) 12-1 (MCE 1171)

I recorded all of the Winter Olympics in OTA HD with only an occasional temporary signal drop.

Since the Olympics I no longer pick up WTLV 12.1 on either of my antennas. Does anyone have a similar problem? Comments?

Is there a fix?

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

I'm using a Directv 10-250 DVR for OTA. No problems with 12-1. Has the orientation of your antenna been disturbed? A slight shift of an inch or so can cause the loss of a signal.

Good Day All,

At your location,
how strong are NBC’s and ABC’s transmitters compared to the rest of the OTA HD channels?

From approximately the YMCA on Moody Road in Orange Park using Windows MCE as my signal strength detector:

Call Sign, Channel, Deg., Miles, Freq., Signal Strength


WTEV-DT 47.1 CBS 55° 15 19 (------6 :D)
WTLV-DT 12.1 NBC 57° 15.4 13 (--2 :mad: )
WJXT-DT 4.1 IND 57° 15.5 42 (------6 :D )
WJXX-DT 25.1 ABC 57° 15.4 10 (--2 :mad: )
WJCT-DT 7.1 PBS 54° 15 38 (------6 :D)
WJCT-DT 7.2 PBS 54° 15 38 (------6 :D)
WJWB-DT 17.1 WB 55° 15.2 34 (----4 :o)
WAWS-DT 30.1 FOX 54° 15.0 32 (------6 :D)
WJEB-DT 59.1 TBN 55° 15 44 (------6 :D)


Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Good Day Pete,

I’ll try your suggestion. I’m moving my antennae slowly to the east. So far I have not found a stronger signal. I’ll keep trying.


Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

I've never found a source for the local PBS that has the correct HD schedule. I don't even waste my time trying anymore.

Good Day All,

At your location,
how strong are NBC’s and ABC’s transmitters compared to the rest of the OTA HD channels?

From approximately the YMCA on Moody Rode in Orange Park using Windows MCE as my signal strength detector:

Call Sign, Channel, Deg., Miles, Freq., Signal Strength


WTEV-DT 47.1 CBS 55° 15 19 (------6 :D)
WTLV-DT 12.1 NBC 57° 15.4 13 (--2 :mad: )
WJXT-DT 4.1 IND 57° 15.5 42 (------6 :D )
WJXX-DT 25.1 ABC 57° 15.4 10 (--2 :mad: )
WJCT-DT 7.1 PBS 54° 15 38 (------6 :D)
WJCT-DT 7.2 PBS 54° 15 38 (------6 :D)
WJWB-DT 17.1 WB 55° 15.2 34 (----4 :o)
WAWS-DT 30.1 FOX 54° 15.0 32 (------6 :D)
WJEB-DT 59.1 TBN 55° 15 44 (------6 :D)


Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

SoManyInputs -- I live on the North side of Doctor's lake and have signal strength from 90-100 (D* receivers) -- what type of antennas are you using? I have a 60" UHF/VHF antenna on a 30-35' mast.

Good Day Jeff and Jerry,

I bought a CM4228 antenna in order to receive the local NBC and ABC VHF HD broadcasts.

This antenna had worked perfect since October including for the recent Winter Olympics mounted in my attic.

Now, I can’t pick up NBC. Maybe its because of the new leaves on the trees combined with their weak signal, wtlv(nbc): 13.7kw and wjxx(abc): 43.7kw, if these numbers are true.

Still scratching my head . . . now, if we could only get CBS to carry the Sweet 16 in HD :)

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Good Day GritTree,

Thanks for the great information on PBS programming. I even tried to record based on the following schedule link but it has not been accurate either.

http://www.pbs.org/tvschedules/index.html?station=WJCT

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Good Day All,

wtlv(nbc): 13.7kw
wjwb(wb): 47kw
waws(fox): 1000kw
wjct(pbs): 1000kw
wjxx(abc): 43.7kw
wtev(cbs): 1000kw
WJEB (TBN) 59.1 ??? kw

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Good Day All,

Is there a good engineering contact for WTLV and WJXX?

WJXT’s antenna is a tenth of a mile behind WTLV and WJXX’s antennae on the same compass heading.

WJXX’s signal registers on my system at full strength.

Yet, I can no longer pick up a viewable signal from either WTLV or WJXX. They failed at the same approximate date after the Winter Olympics. My antenna picks up high VHF frequencies.

I have moved my antennae’s position to reacquire the sweet spot for NBC and ABC to no avail.

I wonder if they have decreased their signal slightly since the Winter Olympics?


Call Sign, Channel, Deg., Miles, Freq., Signal Strength

WJXT-DT 4.1 IND 57° 15.5 42 (------6 :D )

WTLV-DT 12.1 NBC 57° 15.4 13 (--2 :mad: )
WJXX-DT 25.1 ABC 57° 15.4 10 (--2 :mad: )


Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Name Channel # HD DD Phone Address
WJXT (Ind) 4-1 (42-1)
480i N N 904-399-4000 1851 Southampton Road
Jacksonville, FL 32207
WJCT (PBS) 7-1 (38-1)
1080i Y Y 904-353-7770 100 Festival Park Avenue
Jacksonville, FL 32202
WTLV (NBC) 12-1 (13-1)
1080i Y N 904-354-0926 1070 East Adams Street
Jacksonville, FL 32202
WJWB (WB) 17-1 (34-1)
1080i Y N 904-641-1700 9117 Hogan Road
Jacksonville, FL 32216
WJXX (ABC) 25-1 (10-1)
720p Y N 904-354-1212 1070 East Adams Street
Jacksonville, FL 32202
WAWS (FOX) 30-1 (32-1)
720p Y Y 904-642-3030 11700 Central Parkway
Jacksonville, FL 32224
WTEV (CBS) 47-1 (19-1)
1080i Y N 904-642-3030 11700 Central Parkway
Jacksonville, FL 32224
WJEB (TBN) 59-1 (44-1)
480i N N 904-396-1077 3101 Emerson Expressway
Jacksonville, FL 32207

SoManyInputs - I know it is frustrating, but keep checking your equipment - if it was the station at this point with all you posts I have to assume it is you equipment - I know you don't want to hear that, but that is what it seems to me. Are you using MCE as your only source of reception?

If so that might be an issue, I would be willing to loan you a D* recieve to test your OTA receptio - just PM me since I am in OP as well

Good Day Jeff,

Thanks you for the offer. I’ll let you know when I have tried all my tricks at this end.

I am looking to purchase a good HD receiver as well. Though, lately I have seen these being removed from the market which is odd.

Likewise, I may need to combine a VHF antenna with my CM 4228.


Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

Act would take cities out of cable dealings

Boca Raton city officials object to the proposal and will vote to ask other legislators to oppose it as well.

By Tim Barker
Orlando Sentinel
Posted March 21 2006

It's the promise of smaller cable bills vs. the threat of poor customers being left behind.

That's at the heart of a debate raging in Tallahassee over the way the state regulates the cable industry.

A piece of legislation called the Consumer Choice Act of 2006 would take away every city's and county's right to negotiate directly with cable providers. Instead, those companies would deal only with the state.

Boca Raton city officials oppose the proposed law and plan to vote on a resolution today asking Gov. Jeb Bush and other legislators to oppose it as well.

City Manager Leif Ahnell sent the City Council a detailed memo last week outlining how the bill would "negatively impact the city's cable television regulatory authority," including preventing the city from renewing an agreement with Adelphia Communications, the largest cable operator in Palm Beach County, and possibly losing its local access channel.

In Tallahassee, critics say the legislation would create an environment in which companies could choose to serve only affluent areas while ignoring those with fewer residents able to pay for premium services.

"That's what this battle is all about. You can dress it up any way you want, but it's not about consumers," said Steven Wilkerson, president of the Florida Cable Telecommunications Association.

Supporters, however, say it would allow phone companies, which need to spend millions of dollars upgrading copper wiring to fiber-optic cables, to get into the cable business faster, fueling competition that could push cable rates down as much as 20 percent.

"We are in a completely new environment. It's time to acknowledge that," said Rep. Anthony Traviesa, R-Tampa, author of the House proposal (HB 1199). "In the present environment, consumers lose big-time."

Florida is just one of many states wading into the debate. Similar laws already have been passed in Texas and Virginia, while a version in Indiana awaits the governor's signature. Also, Congress is considering a proposal that would give the Federal Communications Commission the authority to grant franchises.

That's putting increased pressure on state legislators to do something sooner, rather than later. They worry they'll wait too long and then be among the last to see the benefits of increased competition, including the network upgrades and new jobs that could come with them, said Paul Gallant, a media analyst for the Stanford Washington Research Group in Washington, D.C.

"That's clearly attractive to state legislators," Gallant said.

For the nation's phone companies, the change represents a way to avoid months, if not years, of negotiations with local governments.

South Florida Sun-Sentinel Staff Writer Luis F. Perez contributed to this report.

Tim Barker can be reached at tbarker@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5022.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-fcable21mar21,0,6065207.story

Good Day All,

Is there a good engineering contact for WTLV and WJXX?

WJXT’s antenna is a tenth of a mile behind WTLV and WJXX’s antennae on the same compass heading.

WJXX’s signal registers on my system at full strength.

Yet, I can no longer pick up a viewable signal from either WTLV or WJXX. They failed at the same approximate date after the Winter Olympics. My antenna picks up high VHF frequencies.

I have moved my antennae’s position to reacquire the sweet spot for NBC and ABC to no avail.

I wonder if they have decreased their signal slightly since the Winter Olympics?


Call Sign, Channel, Deg., Miles, Freq., Signal Strength

WJXT-DT 4.1 IND 57° 15.5 42 (------6 :D )

WTLV-DT 12.1 NBC 57° 15.4 13 (--2 :mad: )
WJXX-DT 25.1 ABC 57° 15.4 10 (--2 :mad: )


Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs




Here's my opinion- Facts- You are in Orange Park and in the general coverage area for WTLV / WJXX. According to your profile in AVS you state you have an Attic mounted CM 4228. This is a UHF double Bowtie design antenna I believe. While it is broadband design it really will fall off sharply below the frequency for channel 14. The channels for WTLV and WJXX are both in the VHF region of 13 and 10 respectively. Having the antenna attic mounted will affect (negatively) a UHF antenna less than a VHF antenna for pickup sensitivity but still these antennas were designed to be mounted in open air. This doesn't mean they will not work in an attic but means that one needs to recognize that he has installed it in a compromising fashion that requires other reception factors to be excessive in order to have a successful reception.

I don't know whether WTLV had increased it's power during the Olympics and now reduced it afterwards but since you stated you received their signal at that time and not now this may be the answer that your reception using a compromise antenna was over the threshhold when their power may have been high and not now.

You asked about an engineering contact at WTLV. I have a route of communications to him but I believe that he would probably say the same thing about your antenna.

It is unfortunate that this station has received an assigned set of frequencies that requires a different design antenna than all the other stations in the area. Plus the fact that these antennas are much much larger in wavelength too but that is what we must deal with. Look at the pic of my antenna. It is a Yagi LP design. The mast is 10ft above roofline. Signals are received for channels 10 and 13 on the third longest elements. These are of a design to be the proper wavelength for those frequencies. The much shorter elements near the antenna front are for the general UHF channels. Note that these are similar to your CM 4228 in dimensions but your CM 4228 has a large area reflector behind it to aid in additional reception of the UHF signals. Still that antenna is designed for UHF only while the LP (log Periodic) design is for all TV and FM frequencies of equal reception.

I recognize that many neighborhoods restrict the use of roof mount antennas and can do so legally for Broadcast TV channels. They can't for DBS dishes. Therefore your recourse if that is the case would be to use the optional services available to receive local chanels. These would be DirecTV, DishNetwork and Comcast Cable. You may choose which will most benefit you if installing the proper antenna is not an option for whatever reason.

For the future- I would look for the local stations to all increase power when they find their core viewers are using Digital TV channel reception and less analog NTSC. For the present, this is not so and a budget restriction on using full power when relatively few are watching yet. I believe we have a kill date for NTSC now set by congress to be in 2009. At that time the locals will all be forced to put everything they have (budget) into the Digital channels. For now, however, we are still in the transition stage which will be lasting a decade until it's all over.

If you feel it would give you some peace of mind, I will contact the station engineering and ask them if they did boost their power during the Olympics to explain why you got signal then and not now. Or, you can call the station yourself and ask for the Chief Engineer in charge of their digital transmissions. he is really a nice gentlemen and has worked with several of us here on the forum.

Thanks for all the info Don,

I fiddled with my setup until I was again receiving WTLV-DT 12.1, NBC, 57°, 15.4 miles, RF 13. :)

However, I still have not recovered WJXX-DT 25.1 ABC, deg 57°, 15.4 miles, RF 10 :confused:

Kind Regards,

SoManyInputs

Well, good luck with it. Ch 10 is the lowest frequency (longest antenna wavelength) in the digital lineup in Jacksonville, so with a UHF antenna, it stands to reason that it would be the most difficult with your setup. Plus, I didn't mention but an attic antenna, all bets are off with reception pattern since it is inside. This is why you can move it slightly and it will change wildly. Even things like rain on the roof will greatly affect the receptivity. These antennas were just not meant to work consistently inside. Sometimes a better indoor solution is one of those set top antennas with adjustment dials on the front because they can be put in one place and you can tune out negating standing waves to better pull in the signal. Just a thought if indoor is a must. I recall awhile back people were buying those, trying them out and returning them if they didn't work any better but a few prople got lucky with them. May be worth a try in your case. But as you know, I'm too lazy for that so I just put up a big roof antenna and then everything always works consistently :)

Good Day Don,

I just can’t bring myself to connect an exterior antenna to my computer through two HD cards.

I respect the lightning from here to Tampa and no ground is 100% effective. I’m taking a chance even with my antenna in my attic.

Plus, I am only one channel away from having everything that I need.

Then there are the high winds that come from hurricanes. I have lived here since I was 4. I remember staying home from school when Dora came through. Up to two years ago I firmly believed that we could not get hurricanes without a fluke of nature. However, two years ago I learned we could get high winds through our back door in Orange Park. Those winds took down a number of my younger trees as the hurricanes crossed through central Florida. I’m afraid that until the cooler winters cycle back we are going to have many stormy summers.

Finally, I would not mount an antenna on my roof if I were to put up an exterior antenna. I am also apprehensive (ignorant) about the cost of a freestanding mast and guy wires.

Kind Regards,

SoManyInputs

Well, you have to use a ground on antenna masts. Two good reasons, with a good ground, you aren't a target anymore for even indirect hits because the ground is what keeps the static charge from building to dangerous levels during high winds. The second reason is if you aren't grounded you'd be in violation of local and state codes and that could make your home owners insurance invalid, although I think the insurance company would have a tough time in court with a jury trial. :)

But no problem, as long as you realize that when you compromise with an indoor antenna, you may need to seek other options to get reliable programming. The good thing is we all have options!

MY rooftop antenna actually has two grounds. The mast is double grounded with the sewer vent pipe in an all cast iron sewer plumbing system. Not great but better than plastic. The second is a large guage wire bouded to the center of the mast and run shortest path to direct ground rod and that one is done per code. It is 12 ft into the ground. The antenna coax also has a wall arester but I don't count those as they are just a backup to bleed off static before it enters the house.

The roof mount is about the easiest and cheapest way. I also have a 65ft tower but that was for my old ham radio and it is now all on the ground. I keep it here, I guess, just for the memories of my Ham radio days. :)

Good Day All,

As everyone told me . . . fiddle with the antenna to find the sweet spot.

I now have all the local OTA HD stations back at acceptable levels.

An exterior antenna would be superior but for now my attic mounted CM 4228 will have to suffice.

It is a UHF design with the odd property of receiving high VHF HD channels which include ABC 10 and NBC 13 in Jacksonville.

Kind Regards,

SoManyInputs

Hey guys - anyone else having audio dropouts on Fox. If so are you watching via OTA or Comcast?

Good Day All,

As everyone told me . . . fiddle with the antenna to find the sweet spot.

I now have all the local OTA HD stations back at acceptable levels.

An exterior antenna would be superior but for now my attic mounted CM 4228 will have to suffice.

It is a UHF design with the odd property of receiving high VHF HD channels which include ABC 10 and NBC 13 in Jacksonville.

Kind Regards,

SoManyInputs

Glad it finally worked out.

An outdoor mount will always give better results, but for those of us who need to resort to an attic mount, it is possible to get acceptable results. But, as you have experienced, it is a pain in the *whatever* and requires very careful aiming.

Channel 181 is showing up as FSNHD, no programming yet. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I'm guessing it's either Florida or Fox Sports Net. Wow. So, they take away Universal, a station with actual programming and give us yet another crappy sports network? Great. I'm sure we'll get several more sports networks before we get anything good. I hear ESPN is getting ready to launch their Competitive Paint Drying channel soon, I sure hope it gets HD feed.

Anyone see the anouncement today - looks like we will finally get UPN favorites in HD via the new CW channel (old news but now we have a timeframe) on existing WB17

from www.jacksonville.com ( http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/040306/bus_CW.shtml )

New TV network finds Jacksonville home




By MARK BASCH, The Times-Union



The CW, a new television network being formed by the merger of the WB and UPN networks, will air in the Jacksonville area on WJWB TV-17, WJWB General Manager Mike Liff said Monday.


Liff said the CW will begin broadcasting on Sept. 5. The programming lineup has not yet been set, but the new network plans to offer the best shows currently airing on the WB and UPN networks.

WJWB expects to continue broadcasting WB programs in prime time until the CW starts up in September. WAWS TV-30, which airs UPN shows from 11 p.m. to 1 a.m., also expects to continue airing its UPN lineup until September, said WAWS General Manager Susan Adams Loyd.

WAWS broadcasts the Fox network in prime time. Loyd said no decisions have been made on what the station will do with the 11 p.m. to 1 a.m. time period.

Hey, finally I can watch Veronica Mars in HD without having to go try to download it somewhere. :)

- Tom

Hey, finally I can watch Veronica Mars in HD without having to go try to download it somewhere. :)

- Tom

...and hopefully it will finally get the ratings/audience it deserves.

Does anyone know if WTEV (CBS) now has the capability to simulcast different programming to the SD and HD channels? I know last year they were not capable of showing the Masters in HD on Thurs/Fri on the HD channel and regular programming on the SD channel so we got SD programming instead of the Masters in HD. I found this surprising with many post from around the country getting to watch the Masters in HD on thur/fri and we had to wait until the weekend :mad:

If WTEV does have the capability now does anyone know if they'll be turning it on so we'll be seeing the Masters in HD today and tomorrow?

CBS Announcement (http://cbs.sportsline.com/cbssports/story/9312071)

Called WTEV and got the same garbage as last year.....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5453635#post5453635

Everyone who's pissed about this should call and complain :mad:


Edit: And thanks Comcast for dropping UHD (which would have given us Masters HD coverage for today and tomorrow) and adding a near-worthless FSN-HD that doesn't have any programming scheduled for at least the next two weeks.

FYI: Comcast is now issuing the 3412 All-Digital Motorola HD/DVR STB's. These boxes have the 12.22 FW and the HDMI issue is corrected.

I'm new here in JAX but one of the reasons I got Comcast before I closed on my house on Monday was to watch the Masters in HD. It was a hassle to get it done and yet they replace UHD with FSNHD. Whippee, the Wrangler Pro Rodeo Tour in HD. What moron made this decision?

Anyway, I hope this is better than I currently think. I'm coming from Cox in PHX where things were very well done and HD was always expanding rather than here where the utterly useless OnDemand product seems to be so important.

I see that my location on antennaweb indicates that I will need a medium directional antenna. I'm at Queen's Harbour just off the intercoastal. Does that seem accurate?

Also, I tried a search using Spaceway and Jacksonville but I didn't find any info on when the locals might be offered via D*. If anyone knows any word on that I would be interested in hearing about it. TIA

Welcome to Jacksonville and the forum.

It is true, if you want UHD D* is your only option (at the moment).

There are a number of us who have been through the joys of OTA, so if you are going that route for OTA, let us know how we can help. The good news is that all of the digital stations have their towers in an "antenna farm" located off of Hogan Road. The bad news is that 2 of them are VHF, so you will need an antenna that has that capability as well as UHF.

Last time I checked, Jacksonville is ranked as 52 in the DMA listing, so I don't expect D* to be offering locals in HD until at least sometime in 2007.

Thakns Peter. One of the first things I will be investigating after moving in will be replacing Comcast with a D*/OTA combo. I'm sure I'll have some questions for you guys over that time.

Great information BTW, I appreciate all of the info you guys post.

Brian

Picked up the 3412 from Comcast today (thanks, FLoss). So far, so good. HDMI appears to work w/o problem.

Thakns Peter. One of the first things I will be investigating after moving in will be replacing Comcast with a D*/OTA combo. I'm sure I'll have some questions for you guys over that time.

Great information BTW, I appreciate all of the info you guys post.

Brian


Good luck with D* during our daily thunderstorms this summer. I had so many rain fades I got fed up and switched back to Comcast.

I don't know what you had with Cox but the 16 HD channels you can get with Comcast here appears to be fairly good compared to most cable systems around the country.

I agree with you about OnDemand. A total waste as far as I'm concerned, especially with a HD-DVR (or 2 in my case).

FYI: Comcast is now issuing the 3412 All-Digital Motorola HD/DVR STB's. These boxes have the 12.22 FW and the HDMI issue is corrected.
Do you mean 6412? If so, could you give a quick synopsis on why we would want to swap out our older 6412's? Thanks

Do you mean 6412? If so, could you give a quick synopsis on why we would want to swap out our older 6412's? Thanks

The 3412 is the latest STB for this area. Unlike the 6412, it maps only the digitally simulcasted channels and has firmware(12.22) that corrects the 6412's(12.18) HDMI 5.1 audio problem. IMO it changes channels a little faster too.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=604142

Two reasons I switched out my 6412 for the 3412: the firmware upgrade that fixed the HDMI issue, and I was having intermittant problems with the 6412 Phase III box dropping frames, a problem my other 6412 Phase I box has never had. An added benefit is the faster switching. I'm going to trade in my other 6412/I next week.

IMO, another plus for Comcast is trading up equipment. I've now had 4 generations of HD-DVRs in the last 2.5 years and each has been an improvement over the previous version. Try doing that with D* or E*, especially when you need 2 boxes.

Hi, new here ... please bear with me if these questions have been asked before.

I'm about to make the plunge from dish to comcast because of their dish buy back program. A few things of concern...

Are all of comcast's channels in Jax broadcast in digital?

Is PBS on 190 in HD?

How many hours/gigs on the DVR?

Are they good about adding new HD content? Isee that no ESPN2 HD yet

Thanks for the help

Is anybody else having problems with their Comcast DVR lately?

In the last few days I have:
recorded only 30min of Lost (last night)
been full of dropouts, both video & audio of Crossing Jordan (few days ago)
loses the guide completely (no power outage)

I happened to also record Jordan OTA, and it was perfect.

I'm trying to figure out if the glitches were cable or the DVR.

---------------------
And, for those who have upgraded your box, does Comcast give you a hdmi-hdmi cable with it?

grittee-
I haven't had any of the problems you've experienced. Maybe time to trade in the DVR?

I didn't ask for an hdmi cable this time, but when I picked up my 6412/III last time and asked for one, they handed me a set of component cables. When I said no I wanted an HDMI cable, the CSR looked at me with a blank stare. I took that to mean I wouldn't be getting one and left.

Hi, new here ... please bear with me if these questions have been asked before.

I'm about to make the plunge from dish to comcast because of their dish buy back program. A few things of concern...

Are all of comcast's channels in Jax broadcast in digital?

Is PBS on 190 in HD?

How many hours/gigs on the DVR?

Are they good about adding new HD content? Isee that no ESPN2 HD yet

Thanks for the help
The only thing that I'm sure on, is the fact that all of the channels are broadcasted in digital. This is evident by the poster saying that they received a 3412 which is an all-digital receiver.

Are all of comcast's channels in Jax broadcast in digital?

Is PBS on 190 in HD?

How many hours/gigs on the DVR?

Are they good about adding new HD content? Isee that no ESPN2 HD yet


Yes - all analog channels are digitally simulcast.

Yes

120 GB - about 10-12 hours of HD, many more hours of SD - definitely not enough though. The DVR can be flaky, but TIVO software that is coming will hopefully improve things.

Depends on your point of view. Comcast has added 4 or 5 channels in the last 2 years - still doesn't have ESPN2. There is a lot of speculation what/when will be added next.

Good Day All,

wtlv(nbc): 13.7kw
wjwb(wb): 47kw
waws(fox): 1000kw
wjct(pbs): 1000kw
wjxx(abc): 43.7kw
wtev(cbs): 1000kw
WJEB (TBN) 59.1 ??? kw

Kind Regards,
SoManyInputs

It is my undersanding that the reason for the low power on both WTLV and WJXX is that their antenna was struck by lightening some time back...this was confirmed by a discussion I had with an engineer at the stations. He said they have been in talks with their corporate to install new equipment. I was told this past week by someone else in the industry that the stations are currently in the process of updating several items on the tower at night.

I live in Arlington near the Natinal Monument and have both a VHF and UHF antenna installed in my attic. All OTA channels come in beautifully except WTLV and WJXX. Until recently WTLV was marginal and WJXX was totally unusable...now both are unusable. I suspect it is a result of the antenna modification. Hopefully this will clear up in the near term as the modifications are completed.

Does anyone else have any other data?

TIA...

Spectrumsp

Yes - all analog channels are digitally simulcast.

Yes

120 GB - about 10-12 hours of HD, many more hours of SD - definitely not enough though. The DVR can be flaky, but TIVO software that is coming will hopefully improve things.

Depends on your point of view. Comcast has added 4 or 5 channels in the last 2 years - still doesn't have ESPN2. There is a lot of speculation what/when will be added next.

My Comcast DVR seems to be able to record almost 15 hours of HD programs.

The official Motorola product sheet says 12-20 hours of HD or 90 hours of SD. I actually have never pushed it to see what the limit is, but I've hit 90% capacity with 10 hours of HD, realizing that the percent capacity it gives is only an approximation.

Looks like WB-DT 17.1 still can't figure out how to broadcast sound OTA.

friggin morons.

Anyone else on Comcast having near-constant audio drops on WJCTHD (ch190)? It's been almost unwatchable for me for a couple of weeks now, other channels are fine though.

WB sometimes has sound. Everwood on Monday was OK, Gilmore Girls on Tuesday was silent.

Hopefully they are working on it.

Greetings, All.

I just got my Sceptre 42" last night and, for my first-ever HDTV experience, did a scan of available QAM channels from Comcast. These are the channels I found:


103.1 INHD (1080i)
103.2 INHD2 (1080i)
105.1 Fox (720P)
105.4 WB-17 (1080i)
114.1 WJCT (1080i)
114.2 CBS (1080i)


Reading back over this thread, it seems that ABC, NBC, ESPN, and TNT were available in the past. Does anyone know what happened to those channels? Will Comcast be making them available again?

I'd sure like to watch "Lost" in HD.

Thanks,

-robert

WB sometimes has sound. Everwood on Monday was OK, Gilmore Girls on Tuesday was silent.

Hopefully they are working on it.

Smallville was OK tonight.

Greetings, All.

I just got my Sceptre 42" last night and, for my first-ever HDTV experience, did a scan of available QAM channels from Comcast. These are the channels I found:


103.1 INHD (1080i)
103.2 INHD2 (1080i)
105.1 Fox (720P)
105.4 WB-17 (1080i)
114.1 WJCT (1080i)
114.2 CBS (1080i)


Reading back over this thread, it seems that ABC, NBC, ESPN, and TNT were available in the past. Does anyone know what happened to those channels? Will Comcast be making them available again?

I'd sure like to watch "Lost" in HD.

Thanks,

-robert


Try adding 104. I think you are missing:

104.1 ABCHD
104.2 NBCHD
104.3 NBCW (SD weather)

I think I've lost ESPN & TNT but I'm not sure since I never watched them anyway.

- Tom

Try adding 104. I think you are missing:

104.1 ABCHD
104.2 NBCHD
104.3 NBCW (SD weather)

I think I've lost ESPN & TNT but I'm not sure since I never watched them anyway.

- Tom

Tom,

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I've done a new auto-scan, as well as, tried to manually scan channel 104. No luck with either. Guess I just can't get those channels.

Do you think it's an issue with Comcast or with my TV?

-robert

Tom,

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I've done a new auto-scan, as well as, tried to manually scan channel 104. No luck with either. Guess I just can't get those channels.

Do you think it's an issue with Comcast or with my TV?

-robert

Dunno. Do you also have a weak fuzzy signal on the analog channels?

Twice I've had to complain to Comcast about a poor signal and they have come out and replaced wet/bad filters in the boxes outside my house. In my case there are restrictive filters both on the outside of my house and also in a post on the street in my front yard. They also sold me $50 amplified splitter that helped things somewhat.

Both times it helped the problem.

- Tom

Has anyone with Comcast had an issue with PBS/Ch.190 lately? I use my Moto DVR to record a fair amount of content from there and lately I've had a lot of problems with audio cut-outs and artifacts and image problems...

edit to add: it happens live, too. I was trying to watch Ch.190 tonight and it was totally unbearable. Is this a complaint to comcast, wjct, or both?

I just got my cable installed, but I can't get the DVI to work. Pic will come up for 5 sec, then go black. In menu, says "HDCP enabled: No" is there a fix? Also, I've seen some posts here suggesting that the 3412 is available in Jax, but the installer and csr were not aware of this - how do I get one and will this solve my problem?

I just got my cable installed, but I can't get the DVI to work. Pic will come up for 5 sec, then go black. In menu, says "HDCP enabled: No" is there a fix? Also, I've seen some posts here suggesting that the 3412 is available in Jax, but the installer and csr were not aware of this - how do I get one and will this solve my problem?

IIRC, DVI will not work on analog channels. I got my 3412 about a month ago after actually going to the Southpoint customer center. I also found out that they've been issuing these boxes for months, as I was too getting the same BS over the phone.

They didn't have any 3412s two weeks ago at Southpoint.

They didn't have any 3412s two weeks ago at Southpoint.

Yeah, the demand is high. I didn't get one on my first trip, but I had a nice customer rep that gave me a call when more were stocked a few days later.

Has anyone with Comcast had an issue with PBS/Ch.190 lately? I use my Moto DVR to record a fair amount of content from there and lately I've had a lot of problems with audio cut-outs and artifacts and image problems...

edit to add: it happens live, too. I was trying to watch Ch.190 tonight and it was totally unbearable. Is this a complaint to comcast, wjct, or both?


Same problem here, is this happening to everybody? Is someone actively working on it - they must know because the channel is not watchable when offering HD broadcasts.

Same problem here, is this happening to everybody? Is someone actively working on it - they must know because the channel is not watchable when offering HD broadcasts.

I don't have Comcast, but watch PBS OTA. I do see occasional breakups with the attic mounted antenna. However, I also have a garage mounted one attached to an A/B switch and when I have trouble with the "A" antenna, I switch to "B" and that clears it up.

It is an absurd system, but it works!

I've fired off an email to WJCT. I'll post what response I get, if any.

Would love to hear what they say...I was attempting to watch the Helen of Troy special that was on Channel 7.1 (OTA) last evening...the breakups got so bad I had to change the channel :( .

A quick response with an explanation that makes sense to me. Hopefully they resolve the issue soon!

Thank you for taking the time to contact WJCT. The information you have shared with us is extremely helpful in our investigation of the situation and the development of a solution.

WJCT has been experiencing the situation with our evening digital signals as you described. This condition is not related to any Comcast issue. The deviation of the signal does vary from digital tuner to digital tuner; some viewers are experiencing a more severe signal loss than others.

WJCT engineers have been feverishly working to resolve this issue. Each day we have made adjustments to the system; there are many factors which come into play. Yesterday we made advances which improved the situation. Today we completing a software upgrade and awaiting a manufacture resolution. We have been informed that the condition will be rectified soon.

WJCT has demonstrated time and time again the importance of our viewers and the community we serve. We strive to deliver a quality product and like you are frustrated by this condition and we will continue to work hard to resolve the situation. If you need additional information or have further question, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,
Bob Culkeen
Vice President Technology and Operations
WJCT
100 Festival Park Ave.
Jacksonville, FL 32202
904-358-6315

No sound again on WB Tuesday night.

Wife's claws got out.

Just to show we aren't the only place with stations that mess up, the xvid HD capture of Gilmore was 4:3 the final 10 mins.

I was watching WJCT last night and didn't see any drops, I also noticed that the network logo was a good bit smaller than I remember it. It used to take up a fair portion of the lower righthand side but it doesn't even seem half as big as it used to be.

I don't really watch any programs on WJXT Channel 4.1 since they stopped being the CBS affiliate, but I noticed the other night that they are now using stretch-o-vision to fill up the screen. Looks like what TNT is using on their SD programs, the center looks pretty normal, with a gradual stretch toward the sides.

I'm not that curious that I'd actually call the station, but I thought that wouldn't it be funny if there were enough people getting 16:9 sets that they started complaining to local stations about the "black bars" on the sides of the pictures.

Channel 4 news is the only local news I watch and I must say I like the new look and the new graphics they are using. I am a comcast sub but I had to take a peek via my OTA to 4.1 and it almost looks like they are upconverting to HD? Looks fabulous to me the other local news channels still have the black bars.


Channel 4 is good for the news, occasionally oprah, inside edition, and dr. phil.

My wife has had her claws out... I emailed the WJWB Operations Manager. We shall see it they will resolve it by next episode.

Yup. Everwood was soundless again tonight. Had to switch to 17-2 to at least see it in SD. However, at 10, sound was back. Wonder if it is network related.

I called WJWB today and spoke with Mark in engineering. He said they had a bad receiver and believe that the problem is fixed.

Hey guys/gals is the list of channels availble here in Jax/Orange Park on the first page of this thread up to date?

COMCAST HD CHANNELS
166 - TNT HD - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 106-2
167 - Discovery Theater HD - 1080i / DD5.1
168 - FOX HD (WAWS) - 720p / DD5.1 - QAM # 106-1
169 - Starz! HD - 1080i / DD5.1
170 - CinemaxHD - 1080i / DD5.1
171 - INHD - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 103-1
172 - INHD2 - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 103-2
173 - ESPN-HD - 720p / CS 5.1 - QAM # 102-1
174 - WB HD (WJWB) - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 105-4
175 - CBS HD (WTEV) - 1080i / DD2.0 - QAM # 114-2
176 - NBC HD (WTLV) - 1080i / DD2.0 - QAM # 104-2
177 - ABC HD (WJXX) - 720p / DD2.0 - QAM # 104-1
178 - Showtime HD - 1080i / DD5.1
179 - HBO HD - 1080i / DD5.1
181 - UHD HD - 1080i/ DD5.1 - QAM # 111-1
190 - PBS HD (WJCT) - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 114-1


I am getting real close to making a change to either Comcast or Dish - I just don't think I can stand the picture quality any longer on D*.

It appears Comcast is only missing ESPN2HD, and HDNet & HDNet Movies (but they do have INHD and INHD2 - pretty much a wash right?)

I am also looking at Dish closer as well, just not sure yet.

Hey guys/gals is the list of channels availble here in Jax/Orange Park on the first page of this thread up to date?

COMCAST HD CHANNELS
166 - TNT HD - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 106-2
167 - Discovery Theater HD - 1080i / DD5.1
168 - FOX HD (WAWS) - 720p / DD5.1 - QAM # 106-1
169 - Starz! HD - 1080i / DD5.1
170 - CinemaxHD - 1080i / DD5.1
171 - INHD - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 103-1
172 - INHD2 - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 103-2
173 - ESPN-HD - 720p / CS 5.1 - QAM # 102-1
174 - WB HD (WJWB) - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 105-4
175 - CBS HD (WTEV) - 1080i / DD2.0 - QAM # 114-2
176 - NBC HD (WTLV) - 1080i / DD2.0 - QAM # 104-2
177 - ABC HD (WJXX) - 720p / DD2.0 - QAM # 104-1
178 - Showtime HD - 1080i / DD5.1
179 - HBO HD - 1080i / DD5.1
181 - UHD HD - 1080i/ DD5.1 - QAM # 111-1 Removed. Was only added for Olympics and is now FSNHD
190 - PBS HD (WJCT) - 1080i / DD5.1 - QAM # 114-1 Is now WJCT 1-4 on 190-193. All SD


FSNHD is off air most of the time but the guide is showing that the Marlins game will be shown tonight. 165 is listed as HDPPV but nothing is ever shown.

I am getting really close to buying a DLP with a cable card. If one buys a HD tv with a cable card slot, can one just hook up the Comcast with the cat cable (no box) and receive all the Comcast HD channels you have listed as QAM in the clear? In other words are the Discovery Channel and movie channels the only ones that are encripted?

I don't have digital cable (just expanded analog) and really don't want to pay for digital cable in order to receive the high definition channels. I was told by Comcast I would have to subscribe to digital cable in order to receive HD channels with a cable card or box. My house in Green Cove Springs is also surrounded by trees and wonder what luck I would have with an antenna. I would love to be able to just plug in the cat cable to a HD TV (with cable card slot) and receive the Qam channels in the clear. Is this possible???

Hello there! Just a quick question for you. Did you ever have any luck getting the QAM channels 104.1, 104.2, or 104.3 on your TV? The reason I ask is because my Brother-in-Law just purchased a Samsung HD set and has standard comcast analog cable. We did the scan just like you and could get everything except for the ABC and NBC HD QAM Channels. I'm just wondering if you have to have digital cable service to get them? It doesn't make any sense that we can get the other networks fine though. Just curious if you had an update...Thanks!
Short answer: No

Longer answer (what I've tried thus far):

(1) Called Comcast to ask what QAM channels I was supposed to be receiving so I could try to manually scan those channels. The "technical expert" whith whom I spoke, had no idea what I was talking about. He looked at my subscription and said that since I had extended basic cable, I shouldn't be getting HDTV at all. He kept asking me how I was getting HDTV, as if I were stealing it somehow. I tried explaining that per FCC regs, local channels were supposed to be broadcast for free on QAM and I just wanted to know the channel numbers. I was put on hold several times while he went to talk with a supervisor. Every time that he came back, we just kept going back to the question of exactly how I was getting HDTV as a basic cable subscriber. Eventually, after nearly 40 minutes on the phone with him, I decided that he really wasn't getting what I was talking about and I was just wasting my time.

So... no love from Comcast.

(2) Purchased a 10db inline signal amplifier from Radio Shack to boost my cable input. Still no luck in getting ABC or NBC on channels 104-1/104-2. The channel just doesn't exist as far as my TV is concerned.

So... no love from the amplifier. Returned to Radio Shack.

(3) Decided to go the over-the-air route. Purchased indoor HDTV antenna from Radio Shack (Catalog #: 15-2186). Was able to tune in one (ONE) pixelated, static HD image. What a piece of crap antenna.

So... no love from the antenna. Returned to Radio Shack.

(4) Purchased remote controlled, directional, indoor HDTV antenna from Radio Shack (Catalog #: 15-1892). This antenna worked fairly well. The channels it did receive were clear. I was able to get the following channels:

CBS - WTEV 47 (rf 19)
47-0 Network Programming - SD 480i
47-1 Network Programming - HD 1080i / DD2.0
FOX - WAWS 30 (rf 31)
30-0 Network Programming - SD 480i
30-1 Network Programming - HD 720p / DD5.1
PBS - WJCT 7 (rf 38)
7-0 Local Programming - SD 480i
7-1 Network Programming - HD 1080i / DD5.1
WB - WJWB 17 (rf 34)
17-0 Network Programming - SD 480i
17-1 Network Programming - HD 1080i / DD2.0
17-2 Network Programming - SD 480i
Independent - WJXT 4 (rf 42)
4-0 Regular Programming - SD 480i
4-1 Regular Programming - SD 1080i / DD2.0
4-2 ???????????????? - SD 480i


Still, no ABC or NBC, though.

So... not enough love from this antenna. Returned to Radio Shack.

I'm fresh out of ideas now. Guess I just won't be watching "Lost" in HD any time soon.

-robert payne

Short answer: No

Longer answer (what I've tried thus far):

(1) Called Comcast to ask what QAM channels I was supposed to be receiving so I could try to manually scan those channels. The "technical expert" whith whom I spoke, had no idea what I was talking about. He looked at my subscription and said that since I had extended basic cable, I shouldn't be getting HDTV at all. He kept asking me how I was getting HDTV, as if I were stealing it somehow. I tried explaining that per FCC regs, local channels were supposed to be broadcast for free on QAM and I just wanted to know the channel numbers. I was put on hold several times while he went to talk with a supervisor. Every time that he came back, we just kept going back to the question of exactly how I was getting HDTV as a basic cable subscriber. Eventually, after nearly 40 minutes on the phone with him, I decided that he really wasn't getting what I was talking about and I was just wasting my time.

So... no love from Comcast.

(2) Purchased a 10db inline signal amplifier from Radio Shack to boost my cable input. Still no luck in getting ABC or NBC on channels 104-1/104-2. The channel just doesn't exist as far as my TV is concerned.

So... no love from the amplifier. Returned to Radio Shack.

(3) Decided to go the over-the-air route. Purchased indoor HDTV antenna from Radio Shack (Catalog #: 15-2186). Was able to tune in one (ONE) pixelated, static HD image. What a piece of crap antenna.

So... no love from the antenna. Returned to Radio Shack.

(4) Purchased remote controlled, directional, indoor HDTV antenna from Radio Shack (Catalog #: 15-1892). This antenna worked fairly well. The channels it did receive were clear. I was able to get the following channels:

CBS - WTEV 47 (rf 19)
47-0 Network Programming - SD 480i
47-1 Network Programming - HD 1080i / DD2.0
FOX - WAWS 30 (rf 31)
30-0 Network Programming - SD 480i
30-1 Network Programming - HD 720p / DD5.1
PBS - WJCT 7 (rf 38)
7-0 Local Programming - SD 480i
7-1 Network Programming - HD 1080i / DD5.1
WB - WJWB 17 (rf 34)
17-0 Network Programming - SD 480i
17-1 Network Programming - HD 1080i / DD2.0
17-2 Network Programming - SD 480i
Independent - WJXT 4 (rf 42)
4-0 Regular Programming - SD 480i
4-1 Regular Programming - SD 1080i / DD2.0
4-2 ???????????????? - SD 480i


Still, no ABC or NBC, though.

So... not enough love from this antenna. Returned to Radio Shack.

I'm fresh out of ideas now. Guess I just won't be watching "Lost" in HD any time soon.

-robert payne

I take it an outdoor or attic mounted antenna isn't an option?

Your problem is most likely due to the fact that ABC (10.1) and NBC (13.1) are the only ones in the VHF range. The Antennae you have tried so far apparently aren't up to that.

An outdoor antenna is best. As a compromise, you could try an attic mount (I am using one).

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103084&cp=&origkw=antenna&kw=antenna&parentPage=search

I can pull in all stations down here in Fruit Cove with the exception of 59.1 which is way too low powered.

Was it free movie weekend in Jax? I got my new HD DVR on Friday and then noticed I had all the premium channels (I only subscribe to digital basic with the HD channels). Then tonight I noticed I couldn't view those channels anymore.

Just want to know if I was just lucky or Comcast had a free promo going on.

My brother and I have been getting Starz for the past few months via Comcast but we never subscribed to it and nothing was ever changed in our billing. Perhaps Comcast changed their package to include it since it is two separate households in different parts of town getting it. Either way I'm not complaining. :)

It seems that when you get a new comcast DVR, HBO etal are enabled for a short while.

Anybody on here from Saint Marys GA, or does anyone know when Comcast will have HD available in this area?

We need a special award for WTEV-DT.

Last night their crack staff managed to deliver the whole evening in SD.

I will take a guess that it was because of the presidential address and they don't have delayed broadcast record capability?

I don't think so. The CBS-East feed was delayed 19 mins. More likely the Prez's speech put them to sleep.

We need a special award for WTEV-DT.

Last night their crack staff managed to deliver the whole evening in SD.

Actually, nothing surprises me about WTEV anymore.

They didn't only deliver SD all night, but they didn't change their schedule times with Comcast, so if you set your DVR to record, say, CSI Miami, you will miss the last 19 minutes of the program. FOX (owned by Clear Channel also) changed their schedule time, so if you set your DVR to record Prison Break, or 24, you would be fine. WTEV-DT is also having problems in delivering digital programs in the afternoon. The digital channel was not working during the golf boardcasts on Saturday and Sunday afternoon. I don't know why WTEV has such difficulties in getting it right. They have had problems on and off for almost three years now, when are they going to learn from all these? Jerry, what are the problems? Funding? Training of staffs and management? Network problems?

PSPun

On the schedule change thing , I noticed cbs.com and nbc.com never updated and the local site shows both CBS & FOX schedules. The FOX one was correct. There's plenty of blame to pass around on schedules. The latest and most accurate info is usually deseminated on the TV itself, if you happen to be watching.

Just conjecturing here, but TV really hates DVRs and the internet, and many older employees are still wishing they were in a pre-betamax world.

Where WTEV management is solely to blame is in not ensuring their tech staff properly sends the HD signal. It's too frequent to be a matter of chance. It has to be a management decision that HD doesn't help the bottom line and is low priority.

I know it doesn't affect them, but I haven't watched any CBS show live in two years. Nor tuned any locally originated show. That's how disgusted I am with WTEV. Doesn't do any good but I feel better.

My brother and I have been getting Starz for the past few months via Comcast but we never subscribed to it and nothing was ever changed in our billing. Perhaps Comcast changed their package to include it since it is two separate households in different parts of town getting it. Either way I'm not complaining. :)

Apparently it is a free 6 month trial. I called about 1 1/2 months ago to cancel cinemax and add showtime, and since I was already on the phone with them I asked why I had Starz HD even though I hadn't subscribed to it. The woman told me it was a free 6 month preview and she could cancel it If I'd like. Obviously I said no... I can't remember exactely when it first started but I'm assuming that it's just about reached 6 months.

Anyone know if comcast will ever add the network "Boomerang" to the lineup? I had it in DC and miss my occasional dose of nostalgia :(

IS anyone having trouble getting WJCT 7.1 or WJXT 4.1 over the air? I cant bring them in on my Sony stb. All other digital stations are fine. Thanks for any info.

IS anyone having trouble getting WJCT 7.1 or WJXT 4.1 over the air? I cant bring them in on my Sony stb. All other digital stations are fine. Thanks for any info.

They are coming in OK for me here in Fruit Cove.

Thanks Peter,maybe something is wrong with my stb. I have tried everything from channel searches to rebooting.

Thanks Peter,maybe something is wrong with my stb. I have tried everything from channel searches to rebooting.

Have you checked the orientation of your antenna lately? I don't know about your setup, but even if the antenna gets out of alignment by so much as an inch, I will totally lose stations (mostly 30.1 and 7.1).

I did notice tonight that Comcast was showing the Marlins game in HD on channel 181 on FSN. I have not noticed that before. Maybe they are looking to add that station to the HD lineup.

Quinton-

I was doing some rewiring in my HT Sunday about 4PM and was checking signals with my 921 and HR10-250. I received their signals on both but thought 4.1 and 7.1 were weak from recall of what I got before. 4.1 even had some pixelation and I'm within eyesight of the towers. I don't think it had anything to do with my setup here because the work I was doing had nothing to do with antenna, just labeling the cables and doing some pulling out of old components connected with DVHS recording. I haven't checked those channels since but will keep a closer eye on them.