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UVa Wahoo in WNC

02-03-08, 11:22 PM

I have a TivoHD and also have to admit I absolutely love it. I've been a Tivo user for years but when I went HD I got a Moxi box from Charter and hated it. When Tivo finally released the much cheaper Tivo HD I jumped on it quick.

Question to you or Goober96

It was my understanding that for the TiVo that even with a Charter cable card it does not allow ESPN or ESPN2 & thus you must go with a UHF antenna and get those stations OTA.

Is this correct? What are the limitations of the cable card over the Moxi? I am happy enough with the Moxi (though not as complete as my Replay Tvs or Tivos I guess), but I want to prepare for the day when the Moxi dies & can't be replaced.

Thanks

Adam Tyner

02-03-08, 11:41 PM

It was my understanding that for the TiVo that even with a Charter cable card it does not allow ESPN or ESPN2 & thus you must go with a UHF antenna and get those stations OTA.ESPN and ESPN2 aren't available over the air, so I don't see how that'd be possible.

GVLSandlapper

02-04-08, 12:26 AM

Question to you or Goober96

It was my understanding that for the TiVo that even with a Charter cable card it does not allow ESPN or ESPN2 & thus you must go with a UHF antenna and get those stations OTA.

Is this correct? What are the limitations of the cable card over the Moxi? I am happy enough with the Moxi (though not as complete as my Replay Tvs or Tivos I guess), but I want to prepare for the day when the Moxi dies & can't be replaced.

Thanks

As stated you can't get ESPN OTA, but I'm happy to report they come in just fine using a cablecard in a Tivo. You can get every channel you get currently get on your Moxi using a cablecard, but you can't get features such as PPV or OnDemand.

As for the advantages, its really a personal thing. I personally like the Tivo software a lot better than say the Moxi, therefore I choose to use a Tivo.

popweaverhdtv

02-04-08, 03:39 PM

Just a "heads up"....There's currently an issue with Charter Customers in the Western NC/Upstate SC Systems with accessing the Premium Channels (HBO/Cinemax, Showtime/TMC) On Demand (ch. 999). This is according to the Service Tech who tried to resolve this issue with my cable box this afternoon. This affects Charter Customers in the area who subscribe to these services. For me, the issue had been happening since Saturday (at least). There was no time frame for when the issue would be resolved. However, they're at least recently been made aware of the issue. Hope this helps some of you...

BTW, I scored a new HD box with HDMI output for my trouble since that was initially thought to have been the issue.

Eddie39

02-04-08, 11:50 PM

popweaverhdtv

02-05-08, 11:32 PM

Would you mimd sharing the make and model of your HD box so I can see if Charter has it here in Beaufort, SC. Thanks.

Sure, it's a Motorola DCH6200 HD Receiver. It has both HDMI and Component hookups. Here's a link to the Receiver on Motorola's website: http://developer.motorola.com/products/settops/dch6200/ . Hope this helps...

cruxer

02-06-08, 08:48 AM

Looks like tonight's Duke (let's go DEVILS)/UNC game has been relegated to WMYA-DT tonight. Let's keep our fingers crossed that they manage to pass the HD feed from Raycom.

-c

Oxb

02-06-08, 09:37 AM

I sent this to the ACC the other day. I also contacted WLOS and Charter but I did not hear anything from them.

There is a little basketball game on
2/9/08. Duke vs UNC. It seems that it
is to be on WMYA Wednesday night. Even
if they manage to show Raycom's HD
feed, which they did not do on their
first HD game of the season, will it
be seen in HD in Asheville? No. WMYA
is not available OTA (WLOS's
subchannel does not count) Charter, Dish
Network & DirecTV do not carry WMYA-HD.
It is quite unfortunate that the WNC area
will not get to see this game in HD.
In the past the first day of the ACC
tournament has been carried on WMYA.
If that stays the same, WNC will miss
that also. In the future, please see
if your television contracts can
ensure HD coverage in the ACC
footprint. As it is now, WNC does not
get any HD coverage from Raycom even
though we are in the
Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville
market.

The ACC responded with:

You may wish to contact your local cable company and local affiliates
directly to express your concern over their choice of affiliates for the
game (WLOS vs. WMYA).

I have copied your feedback to the Raycom Sports Staff.

Thank you for your support of the Atlantic Coast Conference and its 12
member institutions.

tommyp007

02-06-08, 10:15 AM

So the UNC/Duke game will be a blackout on ESPNHD tonight?

cruxer

02-06-08, 10:18 AM

Yep. Raycom broadcast takes precedence in our area. ESPN will have the Texas Tech/Baylor game, probably in SD since it's really an ESPNU broadcast.

-c

rrainwater

02-06-08, 04:33 PM

I sent this to the ACC the other day. I also contacted WLOS and Charter but I did not hear anything from them.

It seems the only issue you have is with Charter. WMYA can't make their station work for you OTA because of where you live. The only solution for you is if Charter carried the WMYADT channel on their lineup. Right now they do not carry that station on any of their systems.

Btw, it is all for nothing if WMYA isn't going to show the Raycom HD events in HD anyways. I will be recording the WMYADT OTA broadcast tonight in hopes it is in HD, but I have my doubts.

popweaverhdtv

02-06-08, 04:53 PM

Here's the post that I submitted in May '07 which has the response from Charter when I asked them about adding WMYA-DT shortly after they added WLOS-DT:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10538287#post10538287

Eddie39

02-06-08, 05:48 PM

Sure, it's a Motorola DCH6200 HD Receiver. It has both HDMI and Component hookups. Here's a link to the Receiver on Motorola's website: http://developer.motorola.com/products/settops/dch6200/ . Hope this helps...

Thanks so much for the info. I changed mine out and I am pleased with the picture I'm getting. I can tell a big difference but not sure if its the box or HDMI connection. Again thanks.

Oxb

02-06-08, 08:47 PM

It seems the only issue you have is with Charter. WMYA can't make their station work for you OTA because of where you live. The only solution for you is if Charter carried the WMYADT channel on their lineup. Right now they do not carry that station on any of their systems.

Btw, it is all for nothing if WMYA isn't going to show the Raycom HD events in HD anyways. I will be recording the WMYADT OTA broadcast tonight in hopes it is in HD, but I have my doubts.

True.

I did not hear from Charter either, but I do understand them leaving WMYA out of the HD lineup. E* & D* seem to agree with Charter. Other than ACC sports, I do not think that I watch anything else on that station. I asked others that I know and not one of them ever watch anything else on them either.

So, I will blame WLOS for showing Supernanny & Cashmere Mafia instead of a little basketball game.;)

GVLSandlapper

02-06-08, 09:09 PM

Ugh! I came here to complain about the game not being on ESPN when I see that the issue has already been brought up. :(

GVLSandlapper

02-06-08, 09:10 PM

Just a heads up, my Tivo alerted me that Charter 798 is now FoxSportsSouthHD. I tuned to the channel earlier and it was still the test pattern, but hopefully it will switch over soon.

rrainwater

02-06-08, 09:15 PM

Just a heads up, my Tivo alerted me that Charter 798 is now FoxSportsSouthHD. I tuned to the channel earlier and it was still the test pattern, but hopefully it will switch over soon.

The channel only shows a few things in HD so other than that, there is not any 24 hour programming. Hopefully, this does mean they will start getting the guide data for the few things they do show.

rrainwater

02-06-08, 09:17 PM

The game on WMYADT was not in HD tonight. It is a shame they can't make it work.

Oxb

02-06-08, 09:20 PM

So, did WMYA do the HD basketball thing? Without announcers ;)

I see from above that I am not missing anything.

th8ter

02-06-08, 09:28 PM

th8ter

02-06-08, 09:29 PM

The game on WMYADT was not in HD tonight. It is a shame they can't make it work.

Its on ESPN HD as I had it trhough Dish for about 5 mins into the game then they took it off.

sic0048

02-06-08, 09:56 PM

You know this is just ridiculous that Wlos/Wmya keeps taking this basketball games away from ESPN HD making us watch in non-HD. They must be getting many calls because I just called and they lady answering the phone basically hung up on me!

I'm sure that had nothing to do with why you where hung up on. You did call Charter after all. Isn't that their first line of defense in ALL situations.

rrainwater

02-06-08, 10:34 PM

You know this is just ridiculous that Wlos/Wmya keeps taking this basketball games away from ESPN HD making us watch in non-HD.

That is the deal with the ACC and Raycom. You can't blame WLOS as they aren't taking the game away themselves. ESPN is required to black the game out in ACC markets. It's just a shame WLOS/WMYA can't show the game in HD. Now, I am always hoping they aren't showing a game so I have a better chance of seeing it in HD.

foxeng

02-07-08, 07:55 AM

They must be getting many calls because I just called and they lady answering the phone basically hung up on me!

Were you mean to her? If so, she was justified to hang up on you. No one, no matter what industry you are in has to put up with hateful people on the phone. That is their right and I am sure she had nothing to do with whether the station had the game in HD or not.

th8ter

02-07-08, 10:52 AM

I'm sure that had nothing to do with why you where hung up on. You did call Charter after all. Isn't that their first line of defense in ALL situations.

Thank goodness I don't have Charter to have to call them! One of the happiest days of my life was the day I handed in my receiver to them.

th8ter

02-07-08, 10:54 AM

That is the deal with the ACC and Raycom. You can't blame WLOS as they aren't taking the game away themselves. ESPN is required to black the game out in ACC markets. It's just a shame WLOS/WMYA can't show the game in HD. Now, I am always hoping they aren't showing a game so I have a better chance of seeing it in HD.

I can certainly blame them for not showing it in HD when they are an HD station and the feed was HD. So who else is to blame but WLOS/WMYA?

th8ter

02-07-08, 10:58 AM

Were you mean to her? If so, she was justified to hang up on you. No one, no matter what industry you are in has to put up with hateful people on the phone. That is their right and I am sure she had nothing to do with whether the station had the game in HD or not.

Not that is any of your biz, but no I was not rude to her. I simply asked why they were not showing the game in HD and that was all I got out. I hate to tell you this but there are businesses that have to put up with rude people on the phone believe me I know because many times I am on the wrong end of the rude call.

rrainwater

02-07-08, 12:01 PM

I can certainly blame them for not showing it in HD when they are an HD station and the feed was HD. So who else is to blame but WLOS/WMYA?

Earlier you blamed them for taking games away from ESPN. That isn't the case. The ACC does that when they schedule these games on Raycom. Whether it was on WLOS/WMYA or another station, ESPN would still have to black the game out due to the agreement in place. This is the first year they have done HD on Raycom/ACC except for one test game last year. Not all affiliates even support rebroadcasting the games in HD. So until we know why WMYA doesn't, there is no need getting this upset.

th8ter

02-07-08, 12:08 PM

Earlier you blamed them for taking games away from ESPN. That isn't the case. The ACC does that when they schedule these games on Raycom. Whether it was on WLOS/WMYA or another station, ESPN would still have to black the game out due to the agreement in place. This is the first year they have done HD on Raycom/ACC except for one test game last year. Not all affiliates even support rebroadcasting the games in HD. So until we know why WMYA doesn't, there is no need getting this upset.

I guess I should have worded that differently. What I was meaning to say was that I had it in HD on ESPN for a while and it was taken off and I had to watch in NON-HD on WMYA.

foxeng

02-07-08, 12:13 PM

I hate to tell you this but there are businesses that have to put up with rude people on the phone believe me I know because many times I am on the wrong end of the rude call.

If you choose to be on the wrong end of a rude call, then that is "your biz."

th8ter

02-07-08, 01:24 PM

If you choose to be on the wrong end of a rude call, then that is "your biz."

OK

popweaverhdtv

02-07-08, 05:02 PM

WYFF-DT has new sidebars....less distracting than the blue bars that they've used for the past few years....nice, fresh and updated...

Is it just me or has the audio been improved, as well?

thesquidman2

02-07-08, 05:22 PM

I agree. It is much better with the eyes. I wonder if that means they might switch to HD soon? I know our NBC station at home put in new sidebars before they switched. I guess we will see soon enough

popweaverhdtv

02-07-08, 05:24 PM

I agree. It is much better with the eyes. I wonder if that means they might switch to HD soon? I know our NBC station at home put in new sidebars before they switched. I guess we will see soon enough

Was wondering the same thing....the Olympic Games are on the horizon which would be an opportune time to make the dive into HD Local News...

rrainwater

02-07-08, 07:01 PM

I agree. It is much better with the eyes. I wonder if that means they might switch to HD soon? I know our NBC station at home put in new sidebars before they switched. I guess we will see soon enough

I just hope they will use the sidebars instead of stretching 4:3 SD content like WSPA does on their local news. Its so distracting and I just do not understand why they think stretching is a good idea.

rrainwater

02-07-08, 07:04 PM

WYFF-DT has new sidebars....less distracting than the blue bars that they've used for the past few years....nice, fresh and updated...

Its ok, except they fade from black to almost white. The white right next to the content is a little more distracting than if they just faded it from black to grey.

thesquidman2

02-07-08, 09:26 PM

I just hope they will use the sidebars instead of stretching 4:3 SD content like WSPA does on their local news. Its so distracting and I just do not understand why they think stretching is a good idea.

Yeah, that is what they do at home when the 4:3 content is being shown. Which is fine. I do agree though that it just looks awful when stretched

thesquidman2

02-07-08, 09:29 PM

I would also like it if Northland can get themselves together and fix TNTHD. It has been more than a whole month since they added it to their lineup but it has been messed up, according to someone who works there. I would also like it if they could add ABC HD also. I feel like I am living in the 80's. I know Comcast back home is horrible but at least they have most HD channels available.

ckeegan

02-08-08, 08:29 AM

Thank goodness I don't have Charter to have to call them! One of the happiest days of my life was the day I handed in my receiver to them.Amen to that! I went to D* about 10 months ago, and have never looked back. Even if Charter started offering their services for half of my current D* bill ($78 = however many SD channels, 54 HD channels [not "choices" like Comcast/Charter like to say], HBO, Starz, OnDemand, and a DVR my old Moxi couldn't even dream of competing with), I still wouldn't budge. If Charter said, "hey, we'll give you everything we have for $40/month", I would laugh at them.

Sorry I had to go there, but I am sick of getting Charter postcards saying they offer more HD choices than DirecTV. It's hilarious.

popweaverhdtv

02-08-08, 04:58 PM

Its ok, except they fade from black to almost white. The white right next to the content is a little more distracting than if they just faded it from black to grey.

I believe the folks at WYFF heard you loud and clear on this one. I'm watching WYFF-DT and they've toned down the gray and almost white...you can barely see the logo along the side bars, but it isn't distracting......

thesquidman2

02-08-08, 06:05 PM

I believe the folks at WYFF heard you loud and clear on this one. I'm watching WYFF-DT and they've toned down the gray and almost white...you can barely see the logo along the side bars, but it isn't distracting......

That is true. I wonder if they are trying to figure out just the right color. I can barely see the WYFF4 logo. If it was a little more gray but balanced. O well at least it doesn't burn the eye.

popweaverhdtv

02-08-08, 06:10 PM

TitanTV has listed on Charter Cable's Pay Per View listings for Buncombe County that TMC HD is on Channel 791. However, the channel isn't live, yet.

Update on Sat. (2/9) at 10:30 a.m.: Yahoo! TV Listings this morning has TMC HD Listed on ch. 791, as well.

dashaund

02-08-08, 08:56 PM

Not that is any of your biz, but no I was not rude to her. I simply asked why they were not showing the game in HD and that was all I got out. I hate to tell you this but there are businesses that have to put up with rude people on the phone believe me I know because many times I am on the wrong end of the rude call.

Yeah, and I'm one of them. I work in Technical Support at Verizon Wireless. Some people either don't understand their devices and/or don't know how to use them. So, I'm the "face" of the company for the time they're talking to me, and, yeah, you can image how that goes. Or if they just got their cell phone bill and call up and in a panicy state his the wrong number in the IVR and I get them and they explode on me. It happens. I feel her pain, but, you know, you have to speak to someone for it to move up the ladder to the powers at be.

calvinb

02-11-08, 06:43 PM

th8ter

02-11-08, 07:15 PM

Yeah, and I'm one of them. I work in Technical Support at Verizon Wireless. Some people either don't understand their devices and/or don't know how to use them. So, I'm the "face" of the company for the time they're talking to me, and, yeah, you can image how that goes. Or if they just got their cell phone bill and call up and in a panicy state his the wrong number in the IVR and I get them and they explode on me. It happens. I feel her pain, but, you know, you have to speak to someone for it to move up the ladder to the powers at be.

I just moved back to VW after being gone for about 4 years and I have to say the CS has improved 100% since I left. I have had to call on 3 occasions since coming back and could not have asked for better help.

GVLSandlapper

02-11-08, 09:07 PM

Getting back to the ACC HD issue, is our beef with WMYA, WLOS, Sinclair, any or all of the above? I'm wondering if WLOS-DT could pass the HD feed if they had the games? The all important question is: will WLOS-DT and/or WMYA-DT have their act together by ACC tourney time? Who do we contact to beg and plead to? I want my HD!!

I don't know the answer to the question, but my guess is that we're going to get hosed come tourney time. :(

IfixitBIG

02-11-08, 09:27 PM

Networks like ABC give stations a couple of preemptions through a season. It used to be two. That means you can preempt two nights of network programing for local shows.

Some stations used to take that time and run what was called "Make good theater". You give clients make-goods in prime time. Programming doesn't matter... you are getting a spot in prime-time!

It is a tough call on the ACC tournament... Thursday night is a big network night. With ABC showing new episodes of "Lost" while CSI is in repeats on Thursday nights, I bet WLOS will not be able to preempt that. That is just a guess... the broadcasting world has changed alot since I left 5 years ago.

rrainwater

02-12-08, 12:17 AM

It is a tough call on the ACC tournament...

The ACC tournament will most definitely be shown on WLOS. It has in years past, so I don't expect this year to be any different.

Btw, according to the Raycom site, WLOS is going to show the select few regular season and the ACC tournament games in HD.

popweaverhdtv

02-12-08, 12:38 AM

Getting back to the ACC HD issue, is our beef with WMYA, WLOS, Sinclair, any or all of the above? I'm wondering if WLOS-DT could pass the HD feed if they had the games? The all important question is: will WLOS-DT and/or WMYA-DT have their act together by ACC tourney time? Who do we contact to beg and plead to? I want my HD!!

Jack Connors is the General Manager of WLOS and WMYA and can be reached at jconnors(at)wlos(dot)sbgnet(dot)com . He responded to my e-mail back in May around the time when we were pleading for WLOS-HD to be added to Charter's Systems.

popweaverhdtv

02-12-08, 12:41 AM

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6531345.html

Oxb

02-12-08, 09:08 AM

The ACC tournament will most definitely be shown on WLOS. It has in years past, so I don't expect this year to be any different.

Btw, according to the Raycom site, WLOS is going to show the select few regular season and the ACC tournament games in HD.

The Friday tournament games have NOT been on WLOS in the past several years. They have been on WMYA.

calvinb

02-13-08, 09:58 AM

I must say, our friend Jack Connors at WLOS has good customer service on his mind. I e-mailed him this morning about the ACC hoops HD issue and he responded, in LESS than 90 minutes. Here's his reply:

Dear Mr. X,

As you are probably aware, WLOS and WMYA have been broadcasting ABC and
MyNetwork network programs in high definition for years. There has been
very little syndicated programming---shows that we contract for and
purchase from individual program suppliers and studios---produced in HD
up to this time. The technology to capture and playback any show in
high definition is very different from what is called "pass through"
HD. "Pass through" high definition is fed to stations around the
country, and we simply receive it in a dish and insert it in real time
into our program stream and ship it to our transmitters.

We have installation specialists working six days a week right now to
completely re-wire virtually our entire studio and control rooms to
allow us to record and play-back HD from sources outside of ABC and
MyNetwork. Because so many stations around the country are doing this
same thing at the same time, and because there are very few contractors
who can handle this kind of enormous task, every station has to wait in
line for our "turn." (It's not unlike what you and I have to do in our
house if we're trying to get a plumber or electrician to show up.) The
contractors were late in getting to Asheville because, as is so often
the case with any complex project, some market in front of us had some
problems that nobody expected. Once we get this installation completed
we will be able to receive and play back HD feeds from sources outside
of our networks.

Our objective when we purchased the studio HD equipment last year has
always been to get some or all of the ACC tournament on in high
definition. The March 13-16 tournament dates remain target number one.

Sincerely,

*Jack Connors
General Manager
WLOS/WMYA-TV
Greenville, Asheville, Spartanburg*

Mr. Connors has earned my respect and consumer dollars today. I'm looking forward to those HD tourney games. Thanks, Jack!

John Coffey

02-13-08, 10:06 AM

Mr. Connors has earned my respect and consumer dollars today. I'm looking forward to those HD tourney games. Thanks, Jack!

Ditto!!!

BTW....Raycom's marketing website still lists WLOS as projecting the games in HD.
http://raycomsportsmarketing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=30

GVLSandlapper

02-13-08, 10:25 AM

Definitely an A+ to Mr. Connors.

I'm assuming once that equipment is in place we'll be getting Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HD too! :D

calvinb

02-13-08, 01:10 PM

here's another e-mail from Mr. Connors after I descibed myself as "a lonely consumer / HD enthusiast". This guy gets it; and wow what a difference from the old Sinclair days when many of us struggled to get the WLOS-DT signal. Anybody else remember the old Samsung STB 720p glitch?

quote:

"Mr. X,

We don't have any /"lonely consumers / HD enthusiasts." / We have only
important customers who look to us for programming that makes their
considerable investment in high definition equipment as enjoyable and
satisfying as possible.

Our commitment to viewers in the Upstate and WNC for ACC coverage this
year is the largest we've ever had. We used to carry between 20-22 games
a season. This year we're carrying 39, plus whatever additional ACC
games we can air as part of ABC's extensive weekend commitment to
college basketball.

I wish I could wave a magic wand and have over a million dollars worth
of digital/HD gear march into line, but this is pretty close to starting
from square one to build a new technical plant for two television
stations. Our vendor-installers are on the case about 9-10 hours a day,
and they know that if at all possible, the ACC tournament is the
objective to hit. "

*Jack Connors
General Manager
WLOS/WMYA-TV
Greenville, Asheville, Spartanburg*

thesquidman2

02-13-08, 02:48 PM

I agree. I e-mailed him about WLOS and WYMA HD on Northland cable. He replied very promptly to my e-mail was explained everything. Apparently, Northland agreed on a contract agreement in November. Mr. Connors said that Northland should be able to have WLOS-HD on our lineup at any time. This really upsets me because I have contacted northland many times about this. I plan on contacting them soon. This is a bunch of bs from a monopoly cable company out here.

cruxer

02-13-08, 03:15 PM

Kudos to Mr. Connors for giving us an answer. It's just good to get an update as to where we are! Hopefully they'll be able to hit the target. I guess the next question would be what are Raycom's plans for football in the fall!

;)

-c

ClemsonKev

02-14-08, 11:26 PM

Clemson vs GT
was on 40.1 OTA tonight.....
NOT IN HD!!!

boooo! boooooo!

rrainwater

02-14-08, 11:49 PM

Clemson vs GT
was on 40.1 OTA tonight.....
NOT IN HD!!!

boooo! boooooo!

Raycom is only showing 4 ACC games in HD during the regular season. The rest of the Raycom ACC games are all in SD. And if you read the previous page you will see that WLOS/WMYA is working to get HD working for Raycom sports in time for the ACC tournament.

jerry birdwell

02-15-08, 07:16 PM

Ten months ago I pointed out to DirecTV, WLOS and WHNS that their captions were bad on the primetime LIL HD feed into this market. The response was basically indifference on the part of WLOS, bewilderment on the part of WHNS and denial on the part of DirecTV. After numerous phone calls, there seems to be progress. This week the DirecTV field engineer for this area has been in Greenville to upgrade the software on the encoders and the Sencore Receivers for the local feed to DirecTV.
It appears that this has corrected the captions problems for these two stations' rebroadcast into the market. The other stations (both 1080I) never had the problem!

However, I once jumped the gun and reported the problem was corrected by observing live Network sports events, which never had bad captions. So, I cautiously report that after two nights of watching, the captions have, for the most part, been good. Only network national commercials have some garbled captions during my monitoring.

popweaverhdtv

02-16-08, 11:32 PM

Anyone notice on WSPA-DT that the screen flickers about every 10-15 seconds? This occurs in both HD and SD programs and was very noticable tonight during Jericho and the 11 p.m. newscast (what I was watching on there tonight).

GVLSandlapper

02-17-08, 12:37 PM

Anyone notice on WSPA-DT that the screen flickers about every 10-15 seconds? This occurs in both HD and SD programs and was very noticable this during Jericho and the 11 p.m. newscast (what I was watching on there tonight).

I'm so glad you said that. It was driving me NUTS during Jericho. I thought it was just something to do with my cable connection. Hope they fix it soon.

UVa Wahoo in WNC

02-17-08, 08:10 PM

Thank you to all on this board that mentioned channel 798 possibly being used for Fox Sports Network in HD.

I was watching tonight's game in SD & remembered to check 798 and sure enough HD!!!!!

The Moxi still calls it BRVHD, but I don't care what it is called as long as they are showing FSNHD, even if only on Sunday Nights for ACC Basketball.

I can't believe I am saying this, but thanks Charter.

rrainwater

02-18-08, 12:45 PM

I can't believe I am saying this, but thanks Charter.

I will thank them when they get the guide data correct. Otherwise, other than Sunday night ACC games, I have no clue if there is anything on the channel so I rarely flip over to it.

th8ter

02-18-08, 01:29 PM

We have had Fox Sports South in HD for several months now on Dish.

popweaverhdtv

02-18-08, 04:23 PM

UVa Wahoo in WNC

02-18-08, 06:54 PM

I will thank them when they get the guide data correct. Otherwise, other than Sunday night ACC games, I have no clue if there is anything on the channel so I rarely flip over to it.

Well, I think the only time I ever watch FSN is essentially Weekend ACC Basketball so it made me excited. To popweaverhdtv, yes, I am in Asheville so to me at least it was new.

I'm happy for any D* or E* customers who may have more choices, but frankly all that matters to me is what I get ;)

calvinb

02-24-08, 02:30 PM

Interesting move by WSPA-dt today. We are getting the HD feed of Syr/ND on 7-1. SD Bama-Auburn on D* channel 7. Wonder why?

arwalke

02-24-08, 05:52 PM

popweaverhdtv

02-24-08, 06:00 PM

FSN-HD on Charter 798 has the ACC Games on.....finally.....no more black screen! Maybe the HD fairies at Charter will grant us a full time FSN HD channel and other HD.

Re:WSPA SD vs. HD game coverage, this has been a practice on CBS' part, not WSPA. This was very evident during last year's NCAA Tournament when the game aired on the SD channel wasn't necessarily the same as the one aired on the HD feed. Even during WSPA's local commericals on the SD, the HD feed would be airing a tournament game in progress.

jerry birdwell

02-24-08, 06:07 PM

WSPA may have forgotten to change the feeds...I've seen this happen several times on WLOS when a regional game was only available in SD, the SD channel had the game, while the digital channel was carrying a national HD game (this happened during the Clemson-Maryland game last year). They would normally correct it within a few minutes.

It may be the same thing at WSPA?

For total clarity, the network is responsibile for net regional switching and the local folks follow the clock. Only when a high interest events are missed that result in loud local voices do calls go out to the net that a mistake has been made.

arwalke

02-26-08, 11:00 AM

It looks as if Raycom is still projecting WLOS will have the ACC Tournament in HD this year.

http://raycomsportsmarketing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=30

calvinb

02-26-08, 12:44 PM

arwalke, check out the e-mail responses from the WLOS GM on page 161 of this thread. They are diligently working on it, trying to be ready for the ACCT. Keep your fingers crossed.

boggaf05

02-28-08, 11:49 AM

Yeah, that is what they do at home when the 4:3 content is being shown. Which is fine. I do agree though that it just looks awful when stretched

I think :rolleyes: that they may go all HD when they switch their local newscasts, including HD for their live remotes. The only reason I think this may be the case is a few months ago while looking through their job listings they were looking for someone with experience with Sony XD Cams, which are portable full HD Cams, which are desingned for ENG applications because of their quick in camera editing capabilities, but the capability to do live remotes in HD is much more costly than editing then playing back recorded material in HD. Maybe one of the WYFF engineers will give us some insight.

douglasd5

02-28-08, 12:15 PM

Sony XDCams are not necessarily HD. WYFF uses XDCams in the field but they are standard definition. Sony does have an HD XDCam, but without more information you can't conclude the XDCam is HD. The SD XDCam is 16x9 capable.

boggaf05

02-28-08, 01:22 PM

O, I guess I was thinking about the newer XDCAMs, but it is wishful thinking, I really didn't loook for SD XDCAMs since all I was shopping for at the time was HD cameras, which we utimately decided to go with HDV due to costs ($35,000 and up for XDCAMs :eek:) Any word on when the newscasts will go to HD?

rrainwater

02-28-08, 02:47 PM

stoner99

02-29-08, 09:39 AM

thesquidman2

02-29-08, 10:34 AM

I called wyff4 today and spoke with mr. welsh ( i think that was his name) in the engineering department. he said the wyff4 is owned by a parent company in new york and they also own other local news channels in chicago, cincinatti, new york, and a few more larger viewing areas. of course stations will be getting the hd capabilities before we do because of the larger markets. he said it will not be this year but probably the begining of 2009 before they go hd. so with that being siad he did say that they will be fullly hd supported and there will be no streching! so at least we have something to look foward to, i guess.

Oh maaann....I was hoping sooner than later. I guess it won't really effect me too much since I will be graduating this year sometime. But I guess if I do wind up working in the Greenville area, I will be looking forward to that. O well, too bad their parent company won't give them the money they need now.

Requieme

02-29-08, 03:30 PM

popweaverhdtv

02-29-08, 05:10 PM

Hi everybody,

There's a very good chance that I'll be moving to Asheville this summer and just curious if anyone could give me a really quick idea of what OTA HD I might be able to pull in there? I've tried searching this thread, but it is so big that it is hard to find that info. Antennaweb result weren't too promising. Also, will I absolutely need a rooftop antenna or will I be able to get anything with my trusty Silver Sensor? (I know it depends on the topography of our location, etc. ) Just curious...

Thanks for your responses!
Ben

Hi Ben,

The best channels for HD in the Asheville area are WLOS (ABC), WHNS (FOX) and WUNF (PBS). Most of the stations' towers are South and West of Asheville. Even then, you're going to encounter serious issues with singal bouncing, topography, etc. Your best bet is going to be getting D* or Cable Service (i.e. Charter or Mediacom). Unfortunately, topography isn't our friend when it comes to OTA HD. Others might be able to give a more positive response from their respective locations around Asheville. Hope this helps!

ckeegan

03-01-08, 01:39 PM

Oh maaann....I was hoping sooner than later. I guess it won't really effect me too much since I will be graduating this year sometime. But I guess if I do wind up working in the Greenville area, I will be looking forward to that. O well, too bad their parent company won't give them the money they need now.I would love to see WYFF news go to HD as soon as possible.

thesquidman2

03-01-08, 02:55 PM

I would love to see WYFF news go to HD as soon as possible.

Maybe a lot of people can e-mail Hearst Argyle and keep requesting that WYFF goes HD ASAP they will listen. It would be nice if the customers contacted the company that owns the station. I am up for doing it...i might e-mail them now. Just an idea

figgynewton

03-01-08, 08:48 PM

Has anyone noticed any changes with WHNS' OTA HD feed? I use my computer as a DVR and as of the beginning of the week I've been unable to tune that channel on the computer (works fine on my TVs with built in OTA/HD tuners). I've done a bit of research and it looks like the reason this happens is that the channel (WHNS) is not broadcasting in a "compliant" fashion.

Anyone see anything different with WHNS compared to a week ago?

Thanks.

ckeegan

03-02-08, 04:23 PM

Maybe a lot of people can e-mail Hearst Argyle and keep requesting that WYFF goes HD ASAP they will listen. It would be nice if the customers contacted the company that owns the station. I am up for doing it...i might e-mail them now. Just an ideaIt is sad, since I personally think WYFF has the most professional news broadcast. I would venture to guess that WYFF is the most watch station for local news, but I may be wrong. If I'm right, you'd expect them to be first in HD as well.

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Requieme

03-03-08, 01:13 AM

Hey pop,

That helps a lot. Thanks! Sounds like I will have to see what I can get with QAM on Mediacom or Charter. Mediacom in Iowa still has the networks in the clear, hopefully that is the same everywhere. Thanks again!
Ben

foxeng

03-03-08, 06:40 AM

FYI, to convert a studio to HD is not a cheap proposition but a several million dollar project. You have to install the HD infrastructure before you can send the first HD picture. Most stations are replacing older equipment with HD compatable equipment when it is time so to keep the cost manageable. When WRAL in Raleigh went completely HD news in 2001, it was pegged as a 10 million dollar change out and that was after the HD infrastructure was in place.

Luckily the price of a lot of this equipment has come down, but it still isn't cheap. Most stations are looking at at least 3 to 5 million dollars to do HD news.

jerry birdwell

03-05-08, 01:16 PM

The southside of many mountain areas here in Asheville can provide awsome off-air HD. For the past six years I have been able to receive each station in the market as it started the HD transmission, and they range from 15 to 85 miles away. I do not receive usable VHF analog signals from several of the stations! My elevation is 3300'. All are very reliable. All are UHF (for now) except for the Greenville SC PBS station operating on Ch 9. The start of this forum's thread details the stations in the market. So, the bottom line is you must be selective in looking for a location that provides reliable DT reception. I use a 4-bay CM antenna, with a home made CH9 yagi to insert the Greenville PBS signal; both on the same mast.
Good luck.

popweaverhdtv

03-09-08, 03:40 PM

If anyone's checked the TV Listings, it looks like the Thursday/Friday Afternoon First Round and Quarterfinal Games of the ACC Tournament will be aired on WLOS while the Evening games of these rounds will be aired on WMYA. The Semifinal and Championship games are listed to air on WLOS on Saturday and Sunday, respectively. I wonder how this will affect airing the games in HD on the two stations (if they're aired in HD at all) as I doubt Charter would have a change of heart and add WMYA's HD to their lineup just for this purpose.

choadib

03-09-08, 08:53 PM

FiggyNewton

RE:WHNS OTA feed not working in Vista Media Center after EPG update 3-1-2008

I wanted to tell you that I had the same problem. I fixed it by removing the WHNS line in my ATSCchannels.xml file. Then, I added the DT channel for WHNS-DT 1 in Media Center and it came back. You see, VMC gets it's info for a digital station not from the signal, but from the EPG. Basically, you'll find that the EPG told VMC that WHNS was now on channel 21 (not until '09) instead of 57. When you add the digital channel, use 21 -1 for your first entry and choose 57 in the second. That worked for me. If you still have problems, let me know.

popweaverhdtv

03-10-08, 06:41 PM

thesquidman2

03-10-08, 07:34 PM

Received a very quick response from Jack Connors, GM of WLOS/WMYA re:ACC Tournament in HD. As of the time of his e-mail reply (at 6:10 p.m.), they're still installing and testing the equipment necessary to carry a syndicated feed like the ACC Tournament in HD. If everything goes as planned (emphasizing if), they will have the WLOS ACC Games in HD. They won't be able to air the WMYA ACC Games in HD...this year.

Say many prayers for WLOS that they're successful.

I sure hope they have it as well, but first Northland needs to start carrying WLOS-HD. I have contacted them several times about it and I even mentioned the ACC tourney, but no e-mail back yet.

So, popweaverhdtv, say many prayers for Northland that they start carrying WLOS-HD in the next few days!

popweaverhdtv

03-10-08, 08:25 PM

I sure hope they have it as well, but first Northland needs to start carrying WLOS-HD. I have contacted them several times about it and I even mentioned the ACC tourney, but no e-mail back yet.

So, popweaverhdtv, say many prayers for Northland that they start carrying WLOS-HD in the next few days!

I'll say many prayers that LOS gets added on your cable system!!!

arwalke

03-11-08, 03:41 PM

thesquidman2

03-11-08, 11:43 PM

Northland...good luck there. I had their HD tier last fall (when the only locals they carried were WHNS and WSPA...the HD PBS feed doesn't count as local). My apartment now includes Northland's standard analog package and I've erected a CM4228 + CM7777 amp in the attic to get the locals OTA. I can't wait to be off their system and be able to get D* at my place...we have it at our mountain house north of Pickens and it is glorious.

I've been calling Northland every month or so asking about CableCARDs...I have a Tivo HD and if they started carrying WLOS and offered their HD tier at $10/month less (since you wouldn't need their crap-tastic box), I might be game.

Good luck, but I wouldn't hold my breath at all about them carrying WLOS...probably better off headed somewhere else to watch the game.

Yeah, thanks. It is just rediculous that I have called numerous times in the past 2 months trying to ask them about TNT-HD and WLOS-HD. It is absurd that I can't even talk to someone at the corporate office. I have called there many times as well. And someone was supposed to call me back, but it never happened. I am seriously about to loose it!!! This cable is not worth what I have to pay for....it is definitely sub-par.

popweaverhdtv

03-12-08, 04:43 PM

Received a very quick response from Jack Connors, GM of WLOS/WMYA re:ACC Tournament in HD. As of the time of his e-mail reply (at 6:10 p.m.), they're still installing and testing the equipment necessary to carry a syndicated feed like the ACC Tournament in HD. If everything goes as planned (emphasizing if), they will have the WLOS ACC Games in HD. They won't be able to air the WMYA ACC Games in HD...this year.

Say many prayers for WLOS that they're successful.

WLOS has been testing their syndicated feed (a.k.a the ACC HD Stream) on their HD (13.1) this afternoon (during Maury). While watching Maury, the boards for UNC and Duke were displayed in HD with accompanying background music (maybe thinking that's going to be the Championship Game on Sunday)? Looked great from this end. Anyone else notice the testing?

GVLSandlapper

03-12-08, 06:46 PM

I didn't catch that, I'm not usually a Maury fan. :D

popweaverhdtv

03-12-08, 07:00 PM

I didn't catch that, I'm not usually a Maury fan. :D

Mind-less entertainment...what can I say? :) Also, it was on when I got home...

I do wonder if Wheel and Jeopardy! will be aired on LOS in HD soon given these developments. I guess it depends on whether the equipment is only for live syndicated content or has HD Recording Capabilities.

GVLSandlapper

03-12-08, 08:43 PM

Mind-less entertainment...what can I say? :) Also, it was on when I got home...

I do wonder if Wheel and Jeopardy! will be aired on LOS in HD soon given these developments. I guess it depends on whether the equipment is only for live syndicated content or has HD Recording Capabilities.

I was assuming that those two would go HD once this happened. I sure hope so.

Oxb

03-13-08, 12:01 PM

ACC in HD on WLOS!!

AppState

03-13-08, 12:03 PM

ACC in HD on WLOS!!

Good job WLOS and Raycom!

cruxer

03-13-08, 01:01 PM

Good job WLOS and Raycom!

I second that emotion! Only oddity is that the DD5.1 flag is turned on when I know from previous posts by SNF Mixer on the programming forum that they're currently sending out DD2.0.

Iostcause

03-13-08, 01:26 PM

Good job WLOS and Raycom!
And DirecTV while we're at it, since they carry the HD WLOS feed. No HD on DirecTV tonight for the late game (it would conflict with Lost). That game is on WMYA instead in SD.

popweaverhdtv

03-13-08, 04:14 PM

And DirecTV while we're at it, since they carry the HD WLOS feed. No HD on DirecTV tonight for the late game (it would conflict with Lost). That game is on WMYA instead in SD.

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13345087&postcount=4864 re:WMYA ACC HD Games. WLOS/WMYA GM Jack Connors also said the following re:WMYA's HD when I e-mailed him on Tuesday (3/10) about the ACC HD:

"We will not be able to carry the tournament games this year in HD on WMYA, but that high definition capability hopefully will be up and on line before the end of March.

On the question of Charter and HD carriage of WMYA----they (a.k.a. Charter) won't be able to carry non-network signals in high def until we are able to broadcast it. Once that happens, I trust that they will re-transmit WMYA in HD for everything that we carry in HD."

(Note: I added the 'a.k.a. Charter' to make it clear who he meant by 'they'.)

Ditto on previous comments on ACC HD. Too bad it isn't in DD5.1 like someone previously pointed out (not even coming through the L/R Rear Speakers). Also, I haven't seen an HD commercial during the Tourney, yet (only widescreen with black bars on top and bottom). Anyone else see any HD Commercials?

rrainwater

03-13-08, 05:14 PM

Ditto on previous comments on ACC HD. Too bad it isn't in DD5.1 like someone previously pointed out (not even coming through the L/R Rear Speakers). Also, I haven't seen an HD commercial during the Tourney, yet (only widescreen with black bars on top and bottom). Anyone else see any HD Commercials?

SNF Mixer who does the audio said there were too many audio issues trying to do DD 5.1 in the few games they did this year in HD. I think he wants to keep his job or something :) Apparently, they will try to work it out for next year though. Obviously, this has nothing to do with WLOS.

cruxer

03-13-08, 11:08 PM

SNF Mixer who does the audio said there were too many audio issues trying to do DD 5.1 in the few games they did this year in HD. I think he wants to keep his job or something :) Apparently, they will try to work it out for next year though. Obviously, this has nothing to do with WLOS.

Correct, but WLOS is transmitting the DD5.1 flag (at least on my receiver) when the audio is actually DD2.0. This prevents our receivers from processing the surround signal into faux 5.1 and results in hearing the announcers in the front L/R speakers.

All-in-all, though, that's a very small gripe compared to my very large satisfaction in getting the HD picture.

foxeng

03-14-08, 07:35 AM

Correct, but WLOS is transmitting the DD5.1 flag (at least on my receiver) when the audio is actually DD2.0.

All stations transmit the 5.1 flag whether they transmit 5.1 or 2.0. That is part of the protocol.

cruxer

03-14-08, 08:56 AM

All stations transmit the 5.1 flag whether they transmit 5.1 or 2.0. That is part of the protocol.

It seems, then, that my receiver is misinterpreting the signal. Typically it will show 2.0 for a Dolby Surround signal and 5.1 EX for a DD5.1 signal. Now with WLOS, it shows 5.1 EX all the time. It seems to work fine for the other local networks. Any ideas on how I could fix this? Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?

foxeng

03-14-08, 10:19 AM

It seems, then, that my receiver is misinterpreting the signal. Typically it will show 2.0 for a Dolby Surround signal and 5.1 EX for a DD5.1 signal. Now with WLOS, it shows 5.1 EX all the time. It seems to work fine for the other local networks. Any ideas on how I could fix this? Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?

Stations transmit 5.1 all the time. You can have Surround that is transported within the 5.1 and it works the same way as Surround in the analog world. If you have a decoder that shows if Surround is being received along with 5.1, it will display those flags if the station is transmitting in that mode (most encoders will allow that if set to it). If a station doesn't have a 5.1 encoder to create the 6 channels and is not operating in Surround mode, then left will show up on left and right will show up on right with no center, no rears and no bass and only the 5.1 flag will show.

I have my station set to use Surround in local mode since we do not have a 5.1 encoder and since FOX provides us with a true 5.1, when we splice into the network, the Surround flag is replaced with the 5.1 and true 5.1.

That is how it works.

dashaund

03-14-08, 06:00 PM

th8ter

03-14-08, 06:10 PM

The only reason I could think of is the PBS unused spectrum is what the state is looking at for the wireless broadband across the state.

douglasd5

03-14-08, 06:12 PM

Anybody have any idea when the Greenville PBS station will move to UHF instead of Channel 9 on VHF? I know the analog cutoff date is next year, and from what I understand they will eventually sell the VHF spectrum.

WNTV is staying on channel 9 as their permanent DTV channel. The VHF spectrum is not for sale. The spectrum for sale is channels 52 and higher. WSPA will go back to 7 for digital and WLOS will go back to 13 for the permanent DTV channel. WHNS will go back to 21 and WYFF will be going to channel 36. Those staying on their current DTV channel are WMYA 14, WASV 45. Oh, and WGGS will return to 16 for digital after the transition.

cpalmer2k

03-15-08, 01:33 PM

apparently WLOS has fell asleep at the switch today, no ACC in HD here :-(

Apps1

03-15-08, 03:29 PM

Back and forth in HD for me. SD when they do the weather crawl. Via D*.

popweaverhdtv

03-15-08, 05:05 PM

popweaverhdtv

03-15-08, 05:22 PM

Here's a Charter HD Survey that was listed on the 'St. Louis, MO - Charter' Forum:

http://www.charterhdsurvey.com/

Granted, it appears to be catered towards the St. Louis area. Nevertheless, it gives a sense of where they're heading in terms of more HD.

foxeng

03-15-08, 08:30 PM

Anybody have any idea when the Greenville PBS station will move to UHF instead of Channel 9 on VHF? I know the analog cutoff date is next year, and from what I understand they will eventually sell the VHF spectrum.

I can't speak about WNTV, but the VHF WILL NOT be sold off. Channels 52-69 are being sold off as we speak. On Feb 18, 2009 TV will go from channel 2-51.

rrainwater

03-15-08, 10:37 PM

ACC on WLOS is in HD via Charter...Like Apps1 said, they probably temporarily switched to SD for the weather crawls (live updates, as well). I believe the weather crawl was in HD, but in stretch-o-vision (actual ACC Feed remaining in HD).

Eventually, they were showing the weather crawl in HD so it seems they figured that out in the second game (it covered the screen instead of moving the picture so it did cover the game graphics, but that might be their only option). The only time it was switching to SD in the second game was when they were getting ready to go to the studio for a weather update and it would stay SD until the update was over.

cpalmer2k

03-16-08, 11:12 AM

yes at least they're getting better at that.. now if they remember how to put the station ID on in HD instead of flipping to do that we might really have progress

gbynum

03-16-08, 04:46 PM

I was lucky to be given a ticket for Saturday ... beats HD! On the backboard supports, there was MUCH electronics. It appeared there was a cluster of either devices about a foot behind the glass as well as other things clamped to the support over pretty well the entire length.

My son and I were guessing at still camera flash receivers, microphones, and repeaters. We nerds are curious ... any ideas here?

George

popweaverhdtv

03-16-08, 04:55 PM

Correct, but WLOS is transmitting the DD5.1 flag (at least on my receiver) when the audio is actually DD2.0. This prevents our receivers from processing the surround signal into faux 5.1 and results in hearing the announcers in the front L/R speakers.

All-in-all, though, that's a very small gripe compared to my very large satisfaction in getting the HD picture.

Following along this same note, I just noticed on the SEC Championship on CBS via ESPN2HD is in DD5.1. At the same time, you go and check the Big Ten Championship on WSPA and it isn't DD5.1. Interesting...I wonder if this is of WSPA's choosing or at CBS' level.

Added at 7 p.m.: The NCAA Final Four Selection Show was in DD5.1.

figgynewton

03-19-08, 09:23 AM

Thanks choadib. Your solution worked great!

rrainwater

03-19-08, 10:12 PM

popweaverhdtv

03-20-08, 09:13 AM

Has anyone noticed the distortion at the top of the screen on SD content on WHNS-DT? The image appears to bend near the top and is very distracting. I haven't seen this until a few days ago, but I can't believe WHNS hasn't noticed and/or fixed this by now.

Yeah, I've noticed this on occasion during Syndicated Programming on WHNS-DT. Could it possibly be some digital encoding that comes with some of these particular shows when its received via satellite by the station? I don't notice this all of the time; it only occurs during certain Syndie Progs.

CurtE

03-20-08, 09:25 AM

Last night I noticed that when I tune my D* HR10-250 to OTA channel 21-1 there is no picture -also, no message about "no signal". The signal meter is solid in the high 90's. The guide data is there and current for that channel. No problems with other local OTAs on this receiver. Also, no problems with SD or HD channel 21 on my D* HR20. I've tried several reboots and resets of local OTA scans.

Any thoughts?

ClemsonKev

03-20-08, 09:25 AM

1) FREE HBO and CINEMAX now thru 23rd: anyone find them on QAM yet? What channels?

2) What happened to G4? No longer on Charter basic? Some Spanish station exists on ch.81

rrainwater

03-20-08, 12:08 PM

1) FREE HBO and CINEMAX now thru 23rd: anyone find them on QAM yet? What channels?

My CableCard TiVo isn't picking up either station. Perhaps the preview isn't enabled yet?

2) What happened to G4? No longer on Charter basic? Some Spanish station exists on ch.81

G4 is broadcast on digital 81 for me. They removed it from analog several months ago.

CurtE

03-20-08, 12:11 PM

popweaverhdtv

03-20-08, 09:46 PM

Well, either ABC or WLOS really had a big goof with the audio being lost halfway through LOST. At least the closed captioning is working and WLOS placed a crawl along the bottom of the screen alerting viewers of the technical difficulty.

Update at 9:51 p.m.:
Apparently, it's only affecting the SD side of things. The HD audio resumed when the crawl was taken away and the video switched back to HD.

Update at 9:55 p.m.:
It is not an issue with ABC as WLOS claims in the crawl...the NEWS 13's Station ID (in SD) didn't have audio, either.

popweaverhdtv

03-20-08, 11:12 PM

GVLSandlapper

03-21-08, 09:32 AM

Just in from NEWS13's 11 p.m. News....Tonight's episode of LOST will re-air Friday (3/21) from 4 p.m.-5 p.m. pre-empting Maury. I'm believing that this will be in SD only, but at least they're making good on it.

At least they're making good on it. I went ahead and downloaded the episode last night so that I could make sure I didn't miss anything juicy while the audio was out. :D

mblrds

03-21-08, 07:12 PM

Anybody having sounds issues on wlos digital sub channels 13-2 and 13-3?

A few weeks ago my son and I were watching a movie on 13-2 went to a commercial and when the movie resumed the sound was/still is very spotty; sound for a split second then nothing for a few seconds. 13-1 is not having this issue.
Of all the channels I receive sub channels 13-2 and 13-3 are the only ones having sound issues.
Would love to send Jack Conners, General Manager of wlos an email.

FYI using a samsung dtb-h260f with antenna.

popweaverhdtv

03-22-08, 02:11 PM

popweaverhdtv

03-23-08, 02:01 PM

When inquiring about the ACC Tourney on WLOS a week or so ago, I was thinking about how our local stations were going to roll out more HD syndicated and local news content. That gave me the urge to send e-mails to each of the area stations (WYFF, WSPA/WYCW, WLOS/WMYA and WHNS) inquiring about such plans. Here's the result of my e-mail hunt presented in order of channel position:

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{Response on 3/13/2008 from Michael Hayes (President/GM-WYFF)}:

Thank you for your email.

I don't have an exact date for HD news, but it is my hope it would be sooner rather than later. As for syndication, that would vary by program and by producer. I would think some may go as early as next season.

Although nothing has been announced.

Thanks.

Mike

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{Response on 3/13/2008 from Doug Durkee-WYFF}:

None of the syndicated programs we air are available in HD yet. As for News, there is no specific timetable for going HD at this time.

Regards,
Doug Durkee
WYFF4

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{Response on 3/13/2008 from WSPA/WYCW}:

None received as of 3/23/2008 and have never had a response in multiple e-mails sent to them over the years (even the one where I complained about their stretch-o-vision).

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{Response on 3/10/2008 from Jack Connors-WLOS/WMYA}:

We are working now on going to full studio HD for our local news. This is extraordinarily complex because all of our studio cameras as well as our entire news set have to be replaced at the same time. We will be making this transition but it will be early this summer before all of the work is done.

{Response on 3/13/2008 from Jack Connors-WLOS/WMYA}:

We will be able to carry Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HD later this spring, perhaps as soon as the end of April. To broadcast pre-recorded programs like Wheel and Jeopardy requires switching equipment that is ordered but that has not yet been shipped to our studio.

***************************
{Response on 3/13/2008 from Susan Hodgins-WHNS}:

Most syndicated product is not even available to us in HD at this point. To my knowledge, the only daily syndicated programs that are distributed in HD are Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. Much of that will change this fall, but we have not had word from our distributors as of yet.

We are in the process of rebuilding our control room and internal capabilities, and will be 100% digital before February of 2009, but have not determined the exact date yet.

Of course, all Fox programming in HD is passed through as such. They even announced last week that all MLB games this year will be in HD, which begin on April 5th. It will be a bit longer for our non-network programming, but we are moving in that direction!

Thanks for your interest.

Susan Hodgins
WHNS / Fox Carolina

***************************

I'll note that I received each these responses (of those who did respond) within two hours and after weekday business hours. Kudos to those who responded and "thumbs down" to WSPA/WYCW for not responding.

GVLSandlapper

03-23-08, 05:24 PM

Thanks for passing along the info Popweaver.

popweaverhdtv

03-24-08, 08:04 PM

Read #7 in this article as it pertains to Charter and speculation (emphasizing "speculation") of a possible buyer if its properties are ever sold due to the current standing of the Economy:

http://www.247wallst.com/2008/03/big-mergers-f-1.html

popweaverhdtv

03-24-08, 08:21 PM

rrainwater

03-24-08, 11:09 PM

Watching WSPA-DT via Charter and notice that you can barely hear the characters on the CBS Primetime Shows. I'm thinking it's an issue with DD5.1 at the network level. I checked my settings on the Home Theater System and everything's in working order (didn't hit a button that I shouldn't have). The commercials (network and local) appear to be working fine, though. Anyone else having this issue (maybe on OTA or D*)?

I noticed this too. The center channel is so low you have to really crank it up to hear dialog. I noticed this on Big Bang Theory. The 11 o'clock news was fine, so it must of been an issue with the national feed.

heels98

03-25-08, 09:20 AM

I noticed this too. The center channel is so low you have to really crank it up to hear dialog. I noticed this on Big Bang Theory. The 11 o'clock news was fine, so it must of been an issue with the national feed.

I think it was a WSPA problem. I switched to WBTV out of Charlotte and the sound seemed fine. I have become increasingly frustrated with sound issues from WSPA and pretty much avoid them when I can.

sic0048

03-25-08, 12:05 PM

I got this answer to my question above from the TIVO forums from WHNS via another user with same problem:

Equipment malfunction with the PSIP generator caused your
problem. The signal was on channel 57 last night as always. The PSIP
generator is a computer that instructs your HDTV turner to look for our
signal on channel 21.

If you desire more information on other functions of a PSIP
generator, Google PSIP on the internet and there are numerous web sites.

Our signal should be okay now.

Jim Barnes CPBE
Chief Engineer
WHNS-TV
21 Interstate Ct.
Greenville S.C. 29615
office 864 213-2135
cell 864 423-5592
fax 864 297-0728

Well I have a similar situation. I lost 21-1 a week or two ago and immediately tried to find it on 57-1. But that didn't work either. Perhaps it is how my TV handles problems like this. I eventually rescanned the channels and it found 21-1 again, but then it lost it again after just aday or two. It still does not tune to 21-1 or 57-1 (or any sub channels). I guess I need to rescan it again.

It is probably my TV, because my SageTV set up has no problem tuning to 21-1 (which is why I haven't been to concerned about rescanning my TV channels yet).

The TV is a Sharp LC-47D64U LCD TV in case anyone is curious.

rrainwater

03-25-08, 12:48 PM

It looks like the dropout issue with WHNS DT is back. I noticed it during New Amsterdam last night. I guess it will be another 4 months of not being able to watch HD content through WHNS w/ Charter.

choadib

03-25-08, 01:47 PM

Trip in VA

03-25-08, 03:29 PM

It looks like when I got home from an easter holiday I lost 13.1 and 4.1 on my Vista MCE. I checked the ATSCchannels.xml file and sure enough the channel numbers were switched to 13/13 and 4/4 from 56/13 and 59/4. I would like to know if anyone knows how to block the ATSCchannels.xml file from being overwritten with the Microsoft Guide's incorrect data? Any thoughts?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13392481&postcount=5808
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13373004&postcount=4855
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13393009&postcount=5813

Hope one of those helps.

- Trip

foxeng

03-25-08, 05:20 PM

Sounds like M$ has already entered the post DTV channels and that is what is getting over ridden. WLOS will return to channel 13 and WHNS will return to channel 21.

popweaverhdtv

03-25-08, 05:26 PM

I think it was a WSPA problem. I switched to WBTV out of Charlotte and the sound seemed fine. I have become increasingly frustrated with sound issues from WSPA and pretty much avoid them when I can.

Only if we had that choice here in these Mountains...it would be nice to have a choice of affiliate for each of the broadcasting networks, but FCC overrules (unfortunately).

price3

03-26-08, 02:31 PM

I'm glad others noticed the low sound on WSPA, I thought it was on my end, or perhaps DirecTv. It happened on big bang theory, old christine, 2.5 men, and whatever other show fits in there before the local news. The background music and laugh tracks were fine, just the dialogue was REALLY low.

jtbell

03-26-08, 06:44 PM

arwalke

03-26-08, 08:56 PM

I've noticed that it appears that SCETV is now capable on injecting its own content onto the HD subchannel...they have a bug in the right lower corner on some programs now and have what I believe is a new station identification.

sbennett

03-27-08, 11:29 AM

I just noticed that SCETV is now showing "Newshour" in HD on their HD subchannel. This caught me by surprise, because it's not listed in their online program guide at scetv.org, nor in my DVR's TV Guide on Screen system. I just happened to notice it while flipping channels.

I have passed this discrepancy on to our programming department and it should be listed soon.

I've noticed that it appears that SCETV is now capable on injecting its own content onto the HD subchannel...they have a bug in the right lower corner on some programs now and have what I believe is a new station identification.

We are in the process of installing equipment that will allow us to broadcast HD material as it becomes available. It is a work in progress, but we are making headway.

-Shaun

thesquidman2

03-28-08, 10:41 AM

douglasd5

03-28-08, 11:04 AM

Does anyone know why WYFF does not show the Today show in HD. I know it is broadcasted in HD because at home I see it in High-Def. Is there a piece of equipment they need to show it in high-def? I don't watch it that much, but when I do I would like to see it in High-Def.

We air the first two hours (7-9) of Today in HD which is live in the East. We do not carry the third hour of the Today Show East live feed (9am Regis & Kelly) and the hour we air at 10am is from the Central timezone feed which is in SD since NBC is not able to switch our HD receiver for the HD Central time zone feed.

Doug

thesquidman2

03-28-08, 11:15 AM

We air the first two hours (7-9) of Today in HD which is live in the East. We do not carry the third hour of the Today Show East live feed (9am Regis & Kelly) and the hour we air at 10am is from the Central timezone feed which is in SD since NBC is not able to switch our HD receiver for the HD Central time zone feed.

Doug

Thank you Doug for your quickly and timely response. I did not realize that you show regis & Kelly for an hour. I guess I am used to the today show from 7 until 11 because that is how it is in West Palm Beach. Usually I am not up that early here at school, so I usually catch the one from 10 to 11 here. My mistake! I am just anxious for your station to go HD. I know you guys are working on it though.

Jeff Edwards

03-28-08, 07:26 PM

Thanks for the info Doug. I suspected that was the case.

What about the Saturday Today Show?

Adam Tyner

03-28-08, 10:18 PM

popweaverhdtv

03-29-08, 07:37 AM

That's odd -- it looks like Charter dumped all of their free HD VOD content. I still get Cinemax and Starz HD VOD, and they have the usual movies and special events in HD for a price, but no HDNet, none of the Breaking Bad episodes, no Music Choice/MHD, no Wealth TV, no Sundance Channel... Admittedly, their selection wasn't that great, but it was kind of nice to know it was there.

Yep, this looks to be the case all throughout Charter-land. Even the March Madness highlights are gone (in HD at least). I wonder if they're realizing that "HD Options" aren't what their customers want (we want more 24/7 HD Channels). That's wishful thinking, of course...

BTW, Showtime HD VOD is still available here in NC...albeit with a short list of options.

douglasd5

03-29-08, 09:01 AM

What about the Saturday Today Show?

Similar situation on Saturday. The live show starts a 7am but we have local news at 7 so we air the central timezone feed on Saturday morning. NBC is upgrading their HD distribution this year so this limitation will be resolved when that occurs.

Adam Tyner

03-29-08, 10:33 AM

BTW, Showtime HD VOD is still available here in NC...albeit with a short list of options.Sorry, I meant to make a note about that in my post. (I don't subscribe to Showtime right now, so I wasn't sure if they still had the VOD or not, although I'd assumed they had.)

jtbell

03-29-08, 06:03 PM

We are in the process of installing equipment that will allow us to broadcast HD material as it becomes available. It is a work in progress, but we are making headway.

I'm glad to see you're making progress! I've noticed that much of the locally-produced content on the SD subchannels is letterboxed, so I suppose it was shot in 16:9 SD or in HD. It would be nice to see some of that stuff filling my screen on the HD subchannel.

wilkemp

03-29-08, 11:19 PM

Hey guys, just wanted to say that I still have the NCAA hd highligts, I did lose a lot of the Cinemax HD movies only 4 left but Breakin Bad HD is still available, my biggest gripe is HBO not having any HD on Demand

Adam Tyner

03-30-08, 12:45 AM

popweaverhdtv

03-30-08, 07:41 AM

Hmm. When I checked a couple of hours ago, I didn't have the Final Four highlights or Breaking Bad on my VOD.

I just noticed that I'm not getting anything over QAM now either, not even the local channels.

Ditto on your comments. Though, I can't vouch for the QAM since my HDTV doesn't have it (bummer, I know). I have nothing in HD re:March Madness.

popweaverhdtv

03-30-08, 08:44 AM

45 Regular Season Atlanta Braves MLB Games will air on Charter Sports South this season:

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080330/NEWS01/80329063

rrainwater

03-30-08, 06:06 PM

45 Regular Season Atlanta Braves MLB Games will air on Charter Sports South this season:

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080330/NEWS01/80329063

Presumably this will be without correct guide data, so it will be impossible to know whether the game will actually be on that channel or not before hand.

popweaverhdtv

03-30-08, 06:14 PM

Presumably this will be without correct guide data, so it will be impossible to know whether the game will actually be on that channel or not before hand.

Check the Braves' MLB Site and see when Peachtree TV is airing the 45 Games (listed as PTV). The first one on PTV is Tomorrow (Monday, 3/31) at 7:10 p.m. and that should be the first one that's aired on CSS. Actually, Charter's EPG shows the game airing at 7 p.m. Tomorrow on CSS.

cpalmer2k

03-31-08, 10:36 AM

popweaverhdtv

03-31-08, 04:08 PM

The games will be on CSS, but has their been any confirmation that they would be in HD? I know CSS aired some SEC stuff in HD last year, and these game are being produced in HD for the local Atlanta market.

Not sure about that one...up here, we don't have CSS in HD; We only have FSN South HD and they're not even part-time.

Updated at 10:02 p.m.: I guess CSS only has a deal to air the game within a 3 hour window. After that goes by, CSS reverts back to their scheduled programming at 10 p.m. Bummer...

Update at 10:06 p.m.: Somebody must have been yelled at...they flipped the switch back to the game. Good call...

popweaverhdtv

03-31-08, 10:46 PM

Link to an Article that Addresses Major Broadcast Groups' HD Plans as the NAB 2008 Conference takes place on April 11-17 in Las Vegas:

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6546067.html

The Article does focus on Media General (WSPA/WYCW), Sinclair (WLOS/WMYA) and Hearst-Argyle (WYFF). It does confirm that WLOS is on Sinclair's list of being upgraded to HD Local News and Syndicated HD Programming.

Update:
On 4/2/2007 at 9:39 p.m., revised weblink (due to earlier issues with previously posted link)...

boggaf05

04-01-08, 09:02 PM

Link to an Article that Addresses Major Broadcast Groups' HD Plans as the NAB 2008 Conference takes place on April 11-17 in Las Vegas:

LINK

The Article does focus on Media General (WSPA/WYCW), Sinclair (WLOS/WMYA) and Hearst-Argyle (WYFF). It does confirm that WLOS is on Sinclair's list of being upgraded to HD Local News and Syndicated HD Programming.

Can anybody else access this site? It appears to be down tonight.:confused:

enoree

04-08-08, 06:21 PM

GVLSandlapper

04-08-08, 08:43 PM

I LOVE HD! But, it's not enough to get me to switch to WSPA for news. I've always been a channel 4 kinda guy. :D

popweaverhdtv

04-08-08, 08:48 PM

*Drum roll*

For my 200th post, has anyone been able to get the Bobcats' NBA Game tonight on FSN South? Here's the Press Release from the Bobcats' website on the new TV Rights deal reached today that expands receipt of Bobcats' Basketball: http://www.nba.com/bobcats/arena_tv_rights_release.html . During the 8:30 p.m. half hour, SportsScience is on FSN South and the Braves are on SportSouth.

popweaverhdtv

04-08-08, 08:55 PM

I wonder how many people have switched to WSPA-DT news in HD instead of WYFF-DT in SD, I know that I have since day 1, Connie LeGrand looks very grand in HD , as far as the babe factor goes WSPA beats WYFF by a mile. IMHO

I'm a regular LOS'er (no pun intended), but if I want a change of news scenery, I do catch myself watching SPA more than YFF. Althought, the things about SPA HD that I've tried to overlook are the Stretch-o-vision of their SD video and SD live shots and the issues with their motion graphics (i.e. choppy-like or hiccupping graphic news intro). Maybe YFF and LOS can learn from SPA's issues and ensure they don't have the same issues when they launch their HD News (whenever that may be).

popweaverhdtv

04-08-08, 09:17 PM

Going for a trifecta tonight. It appears that Charter has signed a 5-yr. sponsorship deal with the Bi-Lo Center (Source: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080404/NEWS01/80403063/1001/NEWS01 ). I wonder how this will affect their rates.

rrainwater

04-09-08, 09:24 PM

popweaverhdtv

04-10-08, 06:15 AM

Tonight it wasn't on either. The Tribune guide data even lists the Bobcats game but no luck. So much for this deal actually helping the TV situation.

There's a press release on the Bobcats' website that only states that Charter's Hickory Market is airing it (out of all of Charterland). Otherwise, it's either on Dish, D* or TWC.

rrainwater

04-10-08, 10:02 AM

There's a press release on the Bobcats' website that only states that Charter's Hickory Market is airing it (out of all of Charterland). Otherwise, it's either on Dish, D* or TWC.

It is strange that the guide data is listing it. I find it hard to believe they lost millions of dollars getting out of a TV deal that is now no better than it was before. Unfortunately it isn't clear who to contact to get the right information.

Goober96

04-10-08, 04:04 PM

Does anyone know when, if ever, IPTV such as Verizon FiOS will be available in Anderson? Any word out there?

dashaund

04-11-08, 04:51 PM

Well, for starters, as of right now, Charter and AT&T (Bellsouth) pretty much owns everything in the Upstate. The only place Verizon has any kind of foothold is in Simpsonville, where they have DSL service, and even that is a very small portion. I'm hoping that we can get some competition in this area, and let consumers choose. But, for now, doesn't look very good. If you're tired of Charter, DirecTV would be my recommendation. I've had them for going on 13 years, and haven't considered switching back to cable since I've had it. More for you money, and the customer service department is a no brainer. Charter customer service is a joke. I have them for internet (only because I don't have another option, DSL doesn't run out here). Talk about a nightmare...

enoree

04-12-08, 09:38 AM

I live in rural Spartanburg county and have PRTC out of Laurens and they offer 6 MB DSL and Digital SD TV over the phone line,they do the channel switching at the main office. They are planning on fiber for the whole system. Co-ops do have the advantage of being local people who have to use the same services, unlike the "big boys", I get CSR's who speak English with a "local" accent, not with an outsourced one.

GVLSandlapper

04-12-08, 10:54 PM

Does anyone know when, if ever, IPTV such as Verizon FiOS will be available in Anderson? Any word out there?

I don't think we'll ever see Verizon FiOS around here because AT&T owns this market. I do believe they're doing something similar to FiOS in other areas so we can only hope they bring it here.

BWDinc

04-12-08, 10:58 PM

from what i understand att uverse is coming to sc.

popweaverhdtv

04-13-08, 10:14 AM

I don't think we'll ever see Verizon FiOS around here because AT&T owns this market. I do believe they're doing something similar to FiOS in other areas so we can only hope they bring it here.

Same here in WNC. Verizon does have Weaverville within its local phone market. However, we don't have their DSL Servce. I'm unsure whether it would be a big enough market from them to introduce FiOS this way.

popweaverhdtv

04-13-08, 11:03 AM

The article is speculation about TWC's plans post-split as a possible cable system consolidator. However, it's an interesting read which does reference Charter's South Carolina System:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6550913.html

GVLSandlapper

04-13-08, 12:43 PM

TWC would fit in nicely here because of our close proximity to their other cable systems. I have several friends who use them in the lower part of the state.

ckeegan

04-14-08, 08:54 AM

I don't think we'll ever see Verizon FiOS around here because AT&T owns this market. I do believe they're doing something similar to FiOS in other areas so we can only hope they bring it here.Well, at least not before Verizon buys AT&T. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but you can't dismiss the possibility.

Hollingsworth Park in the new Verdae Development will be the first Fiber-to-home subdivision in the Upstate.

GVLSandlapper

04-14-08, 09:33 AM

Well, at least not before Verizon buys AT&T. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but you can't dismiss the possibility.

Hollingsworth Park in the new Verdae Development will be the first Fiber-to-home subdivision in the Upstate.

That's it! I'm moving! :D

popweaverhdtv

04-14-08, 06:25 PM

Anyone on Charter noticing WLOS-DT's audio and video occasionally breaking up? It's been doing this during the 6 p.m. news.

ckeegan

04-15-08, 02:34 PM

That's it! I'm moving! :DI (http://www.greenvillefasttrack.com) would be more than happy to sell you a home in there! ;)

blooker

04-16-08, 03:05 PM

I just noticed CNN in HD on Dishnetwork's channel 9436. Although I usually watch Foxnews, the decent looking CNN video is a pleasant change.

th8ter

04-16-08, 03:21 PM

I don't think we'll ever see Verizon FiOS around here because AT&T owns this market. I do believe they're doing something similar to FiOS in other areas so we can only hope they bring it here.

I have been told that the switching equipment Verizon uses in the Simpsonville area is very old and will not accommodate fiber. This means they would have to replace a lot of infrastructure which would be very expensive for an area this size.

popweaverhdtv

04-17-08, 05:47 AM

According to the news story on WLOS' Morning News, there are currently issues with their digital transmitter, WLOS-DT. Parts are being brought in and they hope to have them resolved soon.

ckeegan

04-17-08, 08:29 AM

I have been told that the switching equipment Verizon uses in the Simpsonville area is very old and will not accommodate fiber. This means they would have to replace a lot of infrastructure which would be very expensive for an area this size.Didn't Verizon issue a press release a year or two ago saying that they were investing some ridiculous amount of money towards putting fiber to every one of their customers by 2010 or something like that?

GVLSandlapper

04-17-08, 09:30 AM

Didn't Verizon issue a press release a year or two ago saying that they were investing some ridiculous amount of money towards putting fiber to every one of their customers by 2010 or something like that?

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure Verizon doesn't actually have their own equipment in Simpsonville or anywhere else in the Upstate for that matter. I think they just resell DSL service in that area using AT&T's existing infrastructure, just like Netzero, Earthlink, AOL, etc. does.

Adam Tyner

04-17-08, 09:43 AM

I think they just resell DSL service in that area using AT&T's existing infrastructure, just like Netzero, Earthlink, AOL, etc. does....and even then, they don't support everyone in Simpsonville. I have Verizon for phone service, but their website says I can't get DSL in my neighborhood (Foxwood).

CheckJV

04-18-08, 01:05 PM

Yes, it would be terrible to have all those new customers that would leave Charter to go to Verizon FiOS and actually pay for the costs of the upgrade :confused:.

I have been told that the switching equipment Verizon uses in the Simpsonville area is very old and will not accommodate fiber. This means they would have to replace a lot of infrastructure which would be very expensive for an area this size.

CheckJV

04-18-08, 01:12 PM

What are they charging you for internet service only (and for what speed)? I can never get a straight answer out of any of the Charter sales people.

Well, for starters, as of right now, Charter and AT&T (Bellsouth) pretty much owns everything in the Upstate. The only place Verizon has any kind of foothold is in Simpsonville, where they have DSL service, and even that is a very small portion. I'm hoping that we can get some competition in this area, and let consumers choose. But, for now, doesn't look very good. If you're tired of Charter, DirecTV would be my recommendation. I've had them for going on 13 years, and haven't considered switching back to cable since I've had it. More for you money, and the customer service department is a no brainer. Charter customer service is a joke. I have them for internet (only because I don't have another option, DSL doesn't run out here). Talk about a nightmare...

th8ter

04-18-08, 01:58 PM

Has any one heard anymore from the broadband service Duke Power was experimenting with? This would be great if we could get that in the Upstate. You are right we need some more competition to get better service at lower prices. I saw where last year Duke was testing in very limited markets.

blooker

04-18-08, 08:03 PM

To date, the broadband services offered via power lines has resulted in massive interference to shortwave radio communications in violation of FCC regulations. It's doubtful this technology will be implemented for the time being.

blooker

04-18-08, 08:04 PM

FWIW, DishNetwork added the SciFi channel and USA Network to the HD lineup today.

th8ter

04-18-08, 08:36 PM

I thought it was working very well in Japan and Europe?

foxeng

04-18-08, 09:27 PM

IP over power lines is the worse thing. It doesn't work as advertised, it has never worked as advertised and many different sources have documented how the FCC has turned a blind eye on all of the interference issues just to get SOMETHING to work and it is still a technology that doesn't work, but power companies want it to make more money.

Raleigh was one of the test markets and it was such a dismal failure they gave up on it after 18 months. It interfered with pretty much everything.

blooker

04-18-08, 09:49 PM

In the U.S., it is common for a small transformer hung from a utility pole to service a single house or a small number of houses. In Europe, it is more common for a somewhat larger transformer to service 10 or 100 houses. For delivering power to customers, this difference in design makes little difference for power distribution. But for delivering BPL over the power grid in a typical U.S. city requires an order of magnitude more repeaters (aka noise generators) than in a comparable European city.

Adam Tyner

04-18-08, 11:14 PM

Charter added a "TBA" channel in the high-def tier on 772. Nothing on it yet.

cpalmer2k

04-19-08, 01:02 AM

Charter added a "TBA" channel in the high-def tier on 772. Nothing on it yet.

This is labeled WPCHB on my cable box...and listed as "Off Air". It's just a whild guess, but I'm guessing this is where they are going to feed the Peachtree TV Atlanta Braves games.

WPCB is the local version of TBS, which used to be called WTBS in Atlanta. They had a game in HD scheduled for Peachtree TV tonight, I don't know if it actually aired on this channel or not though.

popweaverhdtv

04-19-08, 09:20 AM

Charter added a "TBA" channel in the high-def tier on 772. Nothing on it yet.

Nothing's appearing on 772 on the Asheville System. It would be nice if it did, though. :cool:

rrainwater

04-19-08, 01:18 PM

WPCB is the local version of TBS, which used to be called WTBS in Atlanta. They had a game in HD scheduled for Peachtree TV tonight, I don't know if it actually aired on this channel or not though.

It aired on 798. I really hope they can figure out what they are going to do with 798. Is it a Braves channel or is it a Fox Sports HD channel? The guide says its a Fox Sports channel but there is never anything on it. None of the Braves games appear in the guide even if they do show on the channel. Its seems like a waste if they are going to add another dedicated channel to the Braves that will never have other content. Of all the things Charter could do to improve their HD service, this seems like such a waste unless they are going to actually make 772 the Braves HD channel and make 798 a real Fox sports HD channel.

GVLSandlapper

04-19-08, 03:24 PM

popweaverhdtv

04-19-08, 03:59 PM

It aired on 798. I really hope they can figure out what they are going to do with 798. Is it a Braves channel or is it a Fox Sports HD channel? The guide says its a Fox Sports channel but there is never anything on it. None of the Braves games appear in the guide even if they do show on the channel. Its seems like a waste if they are going to add another dedicated channel to the Braves that will never have other content. Of all the things Charter could do to improve their HD service, this seems like such a waste unless they are going to actually make 772 the Braves HD channel and make 798 a real Fox sports HD channel.

Didn't air on 798 here last night since it was a Peachtree TV Game (was on CSS in SD). It would be nice if they'd make the channel something and stick with it...add SportSouth into the mix of names that 798 has been in the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, neither FSN South HD nor SportSouth HD are full-time HD channels, so it's the channels' ownership that's making the choice of airing test patterns when no HD programming is airing.

Supposedly, Charter is going to add more HD within the next few months. Maybe their HD service will improve with a few more interesting channels rather than touting the 150 HD Viewing "Options" that are claimed to be available at any one time (Source: http://www.tvpredictions.com/charter030408.htm) .

rrainwater

04-19-08, 10:20 PM

The only time I've ever seen anything actually come on 798 was ACC basketball.

They have had most Braves home games on this channel this season and last season.

rrainwater

04-19-08, 10:22 PM

Didn't air on 798 here last night since it was a Peachtree TV Game (was on CSS in SD). It would be nice if they'd make the channel something and stick with it...add SportSouth into the mix of names that 798 has been in the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, neither FSN South HD nor SportSouth HD are full-time HD channels, so it's the channels' ownership that's making the choice of airing test patterns when no HD programming is airing.

I didn't think they showed Peachtree games either but someone told me it was on the 798 channel in HD last night. I wasn't at home to test this so I could of been told wrong. Anyways, you are right. 798 is has an identity crisis. You would think that Charter would want people to watch the channel. But it seems the opposite.

popweaverhdtv

04-20-08, 09:26 AM

They have had most Braves home games on this channel this season and last season.

That's only true for the Upstate. We didn't even have 798 available on the Western NC Systems last MLB season (was a big letdown). :(

rrainwater

04-20-08, 07:14 PM

That's only true for the Upstate. We didn't even have 798 available on the Western NC Systems last MLB season (was a big letdown). :(

I was responding to someone in Greenville, so they have had access to this channel for a while.

TVguy2

04-20-08, 11:54 PM

rrainwater

04-21-08, 01:41 AM

Can anyone explain why I don't get any audio on my over the air signal for WMYA DT? I have a Sony HDTV and the signal information shows that I have over 86 and more on the signal and the picture is clean. All the other channels I get through the antenna have perfect audio.

I'm in Greenville, SC north of the Municipal Airport.

How is your audio hooked up to your source? Are you using the TV's tuner? What model? I do not see any issues with 40.1 currently. Perhaps its only during certain programming?

dolphan

04-21-08, 07:53 AM

Can anyone explain why I don't get any audio on my over the air signal for WMYA DT? I have a Sony HDTV and the signal information shows that I have over 86 and more on the signal and the picture is clean. All the other channels I get through the antenna have perfect audio.

I'm in Greenville, SC north of the Municipal Airport.

I have not had audio on that channel for at least a month. I use the same HDMI connection for all my channels via dish receiver. i get all other OTA channels no problem. :confused:

TVguy2

04-21-08, 08:52 AM

How is your audio hooked up to your source? Are you using the TV's tuner? What model? I do not see any issues with 40.1 currently. Perhaps its only during certain programming?
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Audio comes in via Antenna connection through the TV's tuner. No other area channel has this problem. It's a Sony E42A10. Seems to be missing audio on everything. I don't tune to it often, but it seems strange.

jself1982

04-21-08, 11:37 AM

Does someone have a current QAM channel list for Charter in the Upstate area? Just for my curiousity to check these channels periodically to find them in the clear.

Thanks.

rrainwater

04-21-08, 12:41 PM

I have not had audio on that channel for at least a month. I use the same HDMI connection for all my channels via dish receiver. i get all other OTA channels no problem. :confused:

I rarely watch the channel, but after that first post I checked it a few times on my TiVo HD and never had any audio issues.

th8ter

04-21-08, 03:48 PM

eacalhoun

04-21-08, 04:24 PM

I live 5 miles SW of Morganton and have problems with WLOS's OTA digital signal originating from Mt Pisgah; the signal fluctuates (and this is reflected in the "up and down" indicator of the on-screen signal meter) most of the time, though I had a better, more reliable signal back in the winter. I get the same results from WMYA's OTA digital from their Anderson transmitter. What is most puzzling is I get a reliable signal from WUNF (UNC-TV also originating from Mt Pisgah). Also my analog WLOS signal is excellent and superior to the analog signals of WYFF, WSPA, and WASV. To further add to my frustration is that WYFF, WSPA, and WASV provide excellent digital signals. Does anyone else have similar problems with WLOS-DT from Mt Pisgah?

Thank you...

Eric

popweaverhdtv

04-21-08, 04:28 PM

I was responding to someone in Greenville, so they have had access to this channel for a while.

Got that. Was just making the point that not everyone within Charter's reach within the Western Carolinas was getting 798 last year. No two Charter Systems are apparently alike. :eek: If so, we'd be getting the 40+ HD Channels that the New Orleans system is currently receiving. :confused:

popweaverhdtv

04-21-08, 04:31 PM