lol yep! Their website says you can't cancel your order once it's been submitted also. Oh well. I'm sure from what I have now, (ie nothing), to this, will be a huge difference.

Thanks!

Personally, I'd go with the $99 240w model to make sure the peak power is there. Plus you never know when you want to go with a mire powerful transducer in the future.

Btw, I've compared the non-pro aura shakers to the eBay k-Woons. The K-Woons are much better by far, and can be had for $140 for four.

Where can I find the 240w model for $99? It's $140 there at PE.

Where can I find the 240w model for $99? It's $140 there at PE.

Ah, if I'm not mistaken, it was on special for almost the whole of last month at $99.
You can see it discussed here (http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?t=221485).

Oh well. I'm sure from what I have now, (ie nothing), to this, will be a huge difference.

Thanks!

Yes, it will still be great! Good luck!

Quick question regarding the buttkickers.

I have a BKA-300 and two advances.

1) Is it possible/safe to hook up two BKA advances to the amp without overloading?
2) If so, how would I wire the two advances to the amp?

Don't want to invest in a bigger amp/BK1000 if I don't have to yet.

Quick question regarding the buttkickers.

I have a BKA-300 and two advances.

1) Is it possible/safe to hook up two BKA advances to the amp without overloading?
2) If so, how would I wire the two advances to the amp?

Don't want to invest in a bigger amp/BK1000 if I don't have to yet.

I'm not sure. I wondered this myself a lot. What I found is that my "wireless" BKA-300 and Advance had to be turned down A LOT to get the right effect, and it's still able to shake a sofa and love seat with 5 adults on it (they both share the platform that comes with the wireless kit, with a corner leg of each resting on it.)

So power wise I'm sure it's not a problem. I'd look into whether the amp can handle a 2 Ohm or 8 Ohm load.

I just checked: Power Output: 300 watts rms @ 4 ohms / 150 watts rms @ 2 ohms - 120V / 240V Convertible

You should be okay wiring them in parallel then, to get a 2 Ohm load.
Each Advance will see 150W RMS, which is fine since their specs are:

Nominal Impedance:
4 ohm, inductive
Power Handling:
75 watt min. /
400 wats max.

However, I won't take responsibility for any damaged equipment or seismic destruction of your home town.

Guys, I'm going through a tactile transducer kick right now. I have two home theatre rooms and have bought a butt-load of these things for testing and possibly doing future installations.
So far I have:

1 wireless BK Advance kit (<- that got me hooked) It's in the media room where it does very well shaking a loveseat and a couch.

4 Aura Bass-shakers (25W RMS, non-pro). These seem to be tougher to drive. They worked very well with the BKA-300 amp, but with my Yamaha receiver, they need to be turned up to +12 db for a satisfactory effect. They're in series pairs in order to present an 8 Ohm load to the Yamaha.

4 K-Woon Shakers (40W RMS). Not very much more than the non-pro Bass-shakers, butt [sic] they have one hell of a kick, and do very well down to their specs of 20 Hz. They certainly add more to a soundtrack than my 28 Hz capable 12" sub.

3 Buttkicker LFEs, with 2 of the BKA-1000A amps and a third BKA-1000A on its way. These are going onto two single seat riser platforms in the basement theatre. These things are almost too powerful. I have two of them connected in parallel to one BKA-1000A and it's turned to just 1/3 of the way up. So, I may end up with a spare BK-LFE and two spare BKA-1000As.

1 more wireless Buttkicker Advance kit is on its way. I found the Advance more refined in some ways than the LFEs, and more than adequate to shake an individual riser platform. Plus, since the wireless amps are remote control operable, have different Eq settings for music, movies and games, and can be wired so that an IR command to one is registered by all the BKA-300 amps that are daisychained together, that I might use this for the larger basement theatre. I'd then move one of the LFEs to the media room to replace the BK Advance kit that's currently installed there.

All speaker wiring to the shakers goes under the floor and emerges into a vertical support beam near where the seats are. The wiring goes to 7 banana-plug connectors mounted on two wall plates in the beam. So that room is ready for a whole slew of tactile transducers if necessary.

I'd be happy to share any of my experiences with the wiring, platform making and performance of these shakers and transducers. I learned a lot from this forum, but then discovered a lot more by simply spending the money and trying them out over the past few weeks. Now I'm in the position of having too many transducers and amps! My contractor and I have done a lot of tests and there's still a lot more to do, but if I can save someone else some money with the right recommendations, I'm all for it. Admittedly, I have no experience with the Clarke Synthesis transducers though. I'll post pictures of my set-ups when closer to completion if anyone's interested.

I'm not sure. I wondered this myself a lot. What I found is that my "wireless" BKA-300 and Advance had to be turned down A LOT to get the right effect, and it's still able to shake a sofa and love seat with 5 adults on it (they both share the platform that comes with the wireless kit, with a corner leg of each resting on it.)

So power wise I'm sure it's not a problem. I'd look into whether the amp can handle a 2 Ohm or 8 Ohm load.

I just checked: Power Output: 300 watts rms @ 4 ohms / 150 watts rms @ 2 ohms - 120V / 240V Convertible

You should be okay wiring them in parallel then, to get a 2 Ohm load.
Each Advance will see 150W RMS, which is fine since their specs are:

Nominal Impedance:
4 ohm, inductive
Power Handling:
75 watt min. /
400 wats max.

However, I won't take responsibility for any damaged equipment or seismic destruction of your home town.

Thanks for the feedback and checking into it fitbrit.

I'm going to give it a try (Running them in parellel) to the BKA-300.

Might also give Guitihammer a call and see what they say. Looks like, in theory it should work fine.

I received my 100watt Dayton amp... but how do I hook it up to my receiver? I have two subwoofer outs on my NR1008 receiver, so I hooked up the RCA cable to the receiver. Then the Dayton amp has low level input/output L/R, which I would connect to either L/R inputs... then I guess I would connect the shakers to the "to speaker" posts?

I'm so confused... sorry.:confused: I'm wondering if maybe the amp is damaged....??

I received my 100watt Dayton amp... but how do I hook it up to my receiver? I have two subwoofer outs on my NR1008 receiver, so I hooked up the RCA cable to the receiver. Then the Dayton amp has low level input/output L/R, which I would connect to either L/R inputs... then I guess I would connect the shakers to the "to speaker" posts?

I'm so confused... sorry.:confused: I'm wondering if maybe the amp is damaged....??

Looking at the picture on Parts Express you can hook up an RCA to one of the low-level inputs on the Dayton. If you have an RCA splitter, you can hook it up to both inputs. The bass shakers will then be hooked up to the "To speakers" speaker posts on the Dayton.

In other words, exactly as you wrote down!

Wait, why would you suspect that the amp might be damaged? Are you saying that you've hooked it up as you wrote and the shakers don't work?

You may need to go into your 1008's menu and let it know that you have "two" subs connected. It might be that if you've hooked up the Dayton to the second output, and the 1008 was configured for just one, that it might be inactive. Also check the output signal strength (in db) from that sub port, too.

How many shakers do you have and how are you wiring them to the amp i.e. series, parallel, series-parallel etc?

Finally, and this is a last resort, there have been reports of shakers being shipped with the terminals the wrong way around.

I actually connected the shakers to my left speaker input and it shakes! I'm reading on the amps little leaflet that came with it, that it will only output high level inputs to the high level outputs and the same for the low level ones. So I guess I will have to split an RCA cable and split the wire to connect it that way?

I actually connected the shakers to my left speaker input and it shakes! I'm reading on the amps little leaflet that came with it, that it will only output high level inputs to the high level outputs and the same for the low level ones. So I guess I will have to split an RCA cable and split the wire to connect it that way?

Oops! My mistake. There should be another cable on the other side of the amplifier (not the side with all the posts and sockets on). THAT's the speaker output!

hi, i just got 2 x Aura Pro's and their rated 50w and i'm using an old SCOTT amp thats 100w will it burn it out?

Oops! My mistake. There should be another cable on the other side of the amplifier (not the side with all the posts and sockets on). THAT's the speaker output!

LOL, I should have came back to the forum, but it took me about 10 min to figure it out. I love how it feels, but the placement is a bit challenging. Just because I am getting the effect way too localized in only the center seat. I gotta figure out how to hook it up to the frame of the entire couch instead of just one of the sections...

Other than that, I like it. Any suggestions on settings for the amp? I currently set the frequency to the lowest possible and set the gain to about mid way. It feels a bit unnatural at times though...

LOL, I should have came back to the forum, but it took me about 10 min to figure it out. I love how it feels, but the placement is a bit challenging. Just because I am getting the effect way too localized in only the center seat. I gotta figure out how to hook it up to the frame of the entire couch instead of just one of the sections...

Other than that, I like it. Any suggestions on settings for the amp? I currently set the frequency to the lowest possible and set the gain to about mid way. It feels a bit unnatural at times though...

Gain may be too high. Turn it down and see. Also, the frequency should probably be set to the highest, and you let your Onkyo set the crossover; I have mine set to 60 Hz on my Onkyo, so only frequencies below that go to the shakers and subwoofers. The in-wall speakers go down to 50 Hz, but I spare them the last 10 Hz of their range. By setting the frequency on the am to the highest, it'll accept everything the Onkyo sends to it (which is pre-filtered). At the least, set it slightly higher than the crossover for the sub set by your Onkyo.
Currently you have set your amp to 40 Hz, but if your Onkyo has it's sub crossover set to 60 Hz, say, you'll be losing out on the 60 Hz to 40 Hz frequencies.
Do you have a regular subwoofer? If so, you might try setting the Dayton amp and the subwoofer to the same settings, excet for gain which should be set individually.

Thanks for all the advice fitbrit! I have my towers down to 50hz, center to 60hz and surrounds to 70hz. So I'll definitely just max the cross over. That's how my sub is set up, I totally didn't even think about it.

And yes, the effect is so much better when it's more subtle. I also think I have to order the two shakers. I took them off the center chair and zip tied them to right under the cushion and it feels great. Now I just need another one for the 3rd seat and I will put one to the wood frame of the center chair. :cool:

Now that I played with the gain, I found out that one of the kickers isn't as strong as the other. I guess I didn't notice it before because I wasn't sitting in that seat, but when I lowered it so that it was just right for my center seat, my wife mentioned she could not feel it at all. So I tried connecting it to the amp by itself and it is indeed a lot less than the other. I also tried reversing the polarity to see if it made a difference, but nothing.

It does shake when the gain is all the way to the top, but it is still considerably less than the other shaker.

Seems like you need an exchange. Or check to see it's making good contact where it's mounted.

Seems like you need an exchange. Or check to see it's making good contact where it's mounted.

Yea I checked and even changed the cable to make sure... I hope PE lets me just simply get it exchanged...

Good luck. I've never had to do an exchange with them, but it would suck as I get stuff delivered to NY at the Quebec border and I live in Montreal, Canada.

PE is pretty good about taking care of problems, you should be OK.

Yes they did. I ordered 4 shakers again and got them discounted and asked if I could return the other two. There was no problem at all, will definetly buy from them again. ;)

Now that I played with the gain, I found out that one of the kickers isn't as strong as the other. I guess I didn't notice it before because I wasn't sitting in that seat, but when I lowered it so that it was just right for my center seat, my wife mentioned she could not feel it at all. So I tried connecting it to the amp by itself and it is indeed a lot less than the other. I also tried reversing the polarity to see if it made a difference, but nothing.

It does shake when the gain is all the way to the top, but it is still considerably less than the other shaker.

If you have a multimeter, it might be worth checking the resistance of each -- they should all read about 4 ohms so you may have something more concrete for PE if it reads different (though PE is very good so you shouldn't have any issues regardless).

I bought 2 of the mini "puck" shakers (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-388&utm_source=Retail&utm_medium=Email_Newsletter&utm_content=300-388&utm_campaign=email012011) for a gaming driving seat and one of them doesn't work and shows infinite resistance on the ohmmeter (I expect PE will replace with no issues, but haven't had a chance to talk to them yet).

Will I feel 4 mini-kickers (shakers) on a large sectional? If any one has experience with them. My SvS PC-13 ultra kicks pretty good but from what I have read by fellow bass lovers, is that the buttkicker upgrade should be fantastic. Will 4 minis be enough?

Will I feel 4 mini-kickers (shakers) on a large sectional? If any one has experience with them. My SvS PC-13 ultra kicks pretty good but from what I have read by fellow bass lovers, is that the buttkicker upgrade should be fantastic. Will 4 minis be enough?

Sorry, I don't have experience with the mini-shakers. I can tell you that even my small, cheap K-Woon shakers provide a staggering enhancement to viewing.

Last night I was watching UFC 128. As the fighters bounced around the cage, the tactile sensation and 120" screen really made it feel as if we were in the octagon with them.
I'd imagine that any Buttkicker product will do a good job. My LFEs and Advances are set to a fraction of their power rating and still do very well.

hey guys,

i have a couple of questions regarding these shakers, i have been looking over this thread for the last couple of days searching for an anwser.

1. how do you run dual subs and shakers?? I have a pioneer elite, and i assume that i would run a splitter out of the elite. one wire into an amplifier and the other i would split again, one going to each sub. is that correct? thanks

2. how do i splice speaker wire to run series/parallel? say i was going to run 4 shakers what would i use to splice the wire? thanks

1. how do you run dual subs and shakers?? I have a pioneer elite, and i assume that i would run a splitter out of the elite. one wire into an amplifier and the other i would split again, one going to each sub. is that correct? thanks

2. how do i splice speaker wire to run series/parallel? say i was going to run 4 shakers what would i use to splice the wire? thanks

1. You are correct (if by "wire" you mean RCA cable)

2. Layout your diagram for connections, look at the # of each gauge wire you'll be connecting together, then go buy the correct size electrical wire nut for that number (it should say on the side of the box). You might need a couple different sizes.

Thanks for the reply Miltimj

1. yes i meant RCA. Where is a good place to get Rca Splitters?

2. so you can use wire nuts to splice 3 wires? i was just looking at the diagrams on here and it looks like one wire coming from the amp gets split in two directions going to each pair of shakers, so it would be 3 wires in one wire nut. is that correct?

also am i correct to assume that if you only use 2-3 shakers series wiring is fine and 4+ would require series/parallel? I was thinking of getting the 250w Dayton amp. Thanks

1. Depends on the quality you want, but options are Monoprice, PartsExpress, and eBay. I've used Monoprice and Monster.

2. Yes, you can splice as many as it says on the box - I've done 6 before with some wire nuts. Align all of the ends, then just screw it on until very snug.

You're correct on the series/parallel wiring. Once you get into parallel numbers of shakers, you'll want to get an even number. You'll get the most power out of your amp by combining shakers to get the lowest resistance that the amp can handle (but no less than that).

A couple years ago (yes, years, this project has been long in coming) I bought 6 Auro Pro Bass Shakers (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=299-028) from Parts Express along with the Dayton Audio APA150 150W Power Amplifier (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-812) to power them. I am planning on installing them in this U-shaped sectional (http://www.ashleyfurniture.com/Graphics/Web/Large/6440267_KO.gif). I was planning on equaling distributing them between all seating positions probably slightly biased to the most used seating position. What is your suggestion on how to wire the Shakers?

I think I could wire three shakers in series (12 ohms) then another three shakers in series (12 ohms) and then run those sets of three in parallel back to the amp (bridged) so that it sees a 6 ohm load.

Would that work? Any other suggestions?

Here's the setup including my dual Epik Empires.

http://i.imgur.com/QDNn0.jpg

Does anyone out there have any idea on were and how to mount a bass shaker to palliser theater seating? I have 4 palliser sensations seats and 4buttkicker mini bass shaker.

Does anyone out there have any idea on were and how to mount a bass shaker to palliser theater seating? I have 4 palliser sensations seats and 4buttkicker mini bass shaker.

I mounted Aura Pros on Palliser Pacificos directly onto the bracing board that goes across the back near the bottom of the chair. It's a somewhat small board, I think about 4" in width from memory, but it works great with the Aura Pros. It's a fairly tight squeeze to get them on because you need to ensure that it doesn't hit the internals of the chair when reclining, but they just fit with the Aura Pros, at least for the Pacifico model. I've found it to generate plenty of shaking with one shaker per chair.

Thanks so much for the info. I will check to see if the buttkickers can fit in the area. Did you have to remove any fabric?

Thanks so much for the info. I will check to see if the buttkickers can fit in the area. Did you have to remove any fabric?

I didn't need to remove any fabric, though I think I drilled through it. I posted some pictures back in post #1827, you should be able to see it directly here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=18213022&postcount=1827

This should help clarify how it was mounted and whether the Pacificos are similar to your model. Good luck with it -- it is worth the effort.

PJP

Almost Identicle setup. Thanks!!! :)

just installed buttkicker mini lfe's on my berklines this weekend! great tactile feeling

manage to snag 6 private labeled buttkicker 2 concert's half what most sites are selling them for. Hope i can make them fit in my chairs some how!

I have four Aura Pro Bass Shakers and a 240W Dayton amp on its way from Parts Express. But I have a wiring question. Will the power amp see the same load with both of these wiring approaches? If not, which is better? The first one is my preffered route because I plan on using one pair per row. My thought is that either way would equate to a total 4 Ohm load to the amp. (unless I'm missing something) Am I right?
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I have four Aura Pro Bass Shakers and a 240W Dayton amp on its way from Parts Express. But I have a wiring question. Will the power amp see the same load with both of these wiring approaches? If not, which is better? The first one is my preffered route because I plan on using one pair per row. My thought is that either way would equate to a total 4 Ohm load to the amp. (unless I'm missing something) Am I right?
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210330Either will work.

Thanks. But, do both equate to a 4 ohm load?

so i have found a way to mount full size buttkickers into my berkline 12006(imported 45088)

replacing buttkicker mini's i've had it there for less then 2 weeks.

has anyone with a buttkicker full size ever found the need for more buttkicking?

deciding on whether to keep the mini in or remove it when the full size goes in

so i have found a way to mount full size buttkickers into my berkline 12006(imported 45088)

replacing buttkicker mini's i've had it there for less then 2 weeks.

has anyone with a buttkicker full size ever found the need for more buttkicking?

deciding on whether to keep the mini in or remove it when the full size goes in

I've found that even the Buttkicker Advance has more than enough kick for 5 people on two adjacent couches. I have three Buttkicker LFEs too, and I think I use just a fraction of their power for single seat purposes.

so i have found a way to mount full size buttkickers into my berkline 12006(imported 45088)

replacing buttkicker mini's i've had it there for less then 2 weeks.

has anyone with a buttkicker full size ever found the need for more buttkicking?

deciding on whether to keep the mini in or remove it when the full size goes in

I have minis in the same chairs and they work very, very well. I can't imagine needing more kick. Did you mound t them yourself or did you have them installed before shipping? Did you have isolators installed on the bottom of the chair to raise them off the floor a little bit?

I have minis in the same chairs and they work very, very well. I can't imagine needing more kick. Did you mound t them yourself or did you have them installed before shipping? Did you have isolators installed on the bottom of the chair to raise them off the floor a little bit?

installed the mini myself, on wood and bolted to the frame, the mini is close to the linear actuator. wood size 7.25" x 18" x 3/4" or so.

i bought some penn elecom 9106 cabinet feet, $1.06 each at market tek, placed one under each original plastic foot on the recliner frame, and 2 for the arm rest sections, replacing the plastic pieces in the arm rest sections.

will be installing the lfe full size myself too, will wood size will probably be 18"x4" and bolted to the frame again.

i also used vhb tape at certain places.

Does anyone have advice for wiring 7 of the 4 ohm shakers to a receiver that only supports 8 ohm speakers? I understand wiring even numbers but am stuck with on the odd number. Ugh!

I am finally joining the bass shaker parade and wanted to confirm my plans and would ask for any input/advice.

Goal:

4 bass shakers connected to 4 powered recliners using a spare receiver/amp

Equipment:

Onkyo TX-NR609 (main receiver/amp)
Pioneer VSK-517K (spare receiver/amp to power bass shakers)
2 Powered subwoofers
4 Aura AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shakers from Parts Express
4 Powered recliners

Intended Plan:

The Onkyo is a 7.2 receiver/amp. I will connect one of the subwoofer outputs to my current powered subwoofers. I will then connect the other subwoofer output to the Pioneer's TV RCA TV L-R inputs. Since the Pioneer is designed for 8 Ohms and the bass shakers are 4 Ohms, my thought based on what I have read is to wire them in series (two on the left channel and two on the right channel) like this:

Amp Neg Out -> Neg on Shaker 1 -> Pos on Shaker 1 -> Neg on Shaker 2 -> Pos on Shaker 2 -> Amp Pos Out

This would be duplicated on the other channel.

Questions:

I assume I turn off the Subwoofer output on the Pioneer. In other words, I want to ensure that the lowest frequencies get sent to the front speakers. Is that correct?

If I turn off the subwoofer output, do I need to do anything with the crossover settings? I assume the shakers will do what they need with the signal they get.

Thanks!

The Onkyo is a 7.2 receiver/amp. I will connect one of the subwoofer outputs to my current powered subwoofers. I will then connect the other subwoofer output to the Pioneer's TV RCA TV L-R inputs. Since the Pioneer is designed for 8 Ohms and the bass shakers are 4 Ohms, my thought based on what I have read is to wire them in series (two on the left channel and two on the right channel) like this:

Amp Neg Out -> Neg on Shaker 1 -> Pos on Shaker 1 -> Neg on Shaker 2 -> Pos on Shaker 2 -> Amp Pos Out

This would be duplicated on the other channel.

Thanks!

Your series wiring is correct.

I would use both LFE outputs of your 7.2 receiver for subs (one on each subwoofer) and use an RCA "Y" splitter from one of the subs to send a signal to the Pioneer for the shakers. This would allow Onkyo/Audessey to handle each sub individually. On the Pioneer run it with speakers set to large/full range so you're sending the entire LFE signal (already has LPF from Onkyo) to the shakers.

Does that make sense?

Good Luck.

Your series wiring is correct.

I would use both LFE outputs of your 7.2 receiver for subs (one on each subwoofer) and use an RCA "Y" splitter from one of the subs to send a signal to the Pioneer for the shakers. This would allow Onkyo/Audessey to handle each sub individually. On the Pioneer run it with speakers set to large/full range so you're sending the entire LFE signal (already has LPF from Onkyo) to the shakers.

Does that make sense?

Good Luck.

Yes, that makes complete sense. I hadn't considered how the Audessey system would account for both subs running off the same output. I'll do as you recommend and split one of sub outs to go the Pioneer.

Also, good point about setting the speaker size on the Pioneer to Large. I do the opposite on the Onkyo and set them to Small to ensure that the LFE signal is going to the subs and now the bass shakers.

Now, off to finish mounting the bass shakers!

Thanks.

Swapped out one of my Buttkicker LFE MINI's to a private label Buttkicker LFE Full size.

I have to say, the difference is astounding!!

Managed to mount it on my small berkline 12006 aka inported 45088's

Mounted to a 18x24" plywood, towards the rear. Mounted using 3m VHB tape and screws. Total of 10 screws holding frame to wood, and another 4 holding the 2 aluminum angles to the wood, vhb taped to frame.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s87/ufokillerz/IMAG0293.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s87/ufokillerz/IMAG0299.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s87/ufokillerz/IMAG0296.jpg
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i think my buttkickers gave me nausea watching star trek again.

hey guys,

quick question, when using the the 240w subwoofer plate AMP from partsexpress. do i need to use the red and white cables going in or just one cable? i am just trying to figure out how many cables i will need

thanks,

I originally had aura shakers mounted to the rear of my Berkline 13175 chairs (with power recline) as seen below - image borrowed from another user. I played around with various options but defaulted to the set-up I had seen someone else use.

The response from the shakers was decent. This weekend I decided to play around with a few mounting options and found out that I could squeeze the shakers and mount them into the wood frame below the seat. Wow! What difference...the shaking affect was amplified and less "localized"....it felt more natural as a result.

Now I just need to find an effect way to wire up 7 shakers....I understand wiring an even number to get 8 ohms but still confused about wiring an odd number.

Old set-up:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv109/kevinjs1234/shakers/12.jpg

hey guys,

quick question, when using the the 240w subwoofer plate AMP from partsexpress. do i need to use the red and white cables going in or just one cable? i am just trying to figure out how many cables i will need

thanks,

I used this y-splitter when I set up my 240w and 2 shakers about a year ago:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023603&p_id=6261&seq=1&format=2

I think I remember reading then, that it was better to use the splitter than to have the sub cable go directly into the 240w. I can't remember if I tried it both ways or not, but it's been working great using the splitter.

Gary

Thanks Garnuts

what splitter did you use to come out of your receivers LFE? i am planning on running dual subs with the shakers.

Thanks Garnuts

what splitter did you use to come out of your receivers LFE? i am planning on running dual subs with the shakers.

My Onkyo 707 has 2 sub outs:

1. to the 240w

2. this splitter to dual subs

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021803&p_id=663&seq=1&format=2

Gary

My Onkyo 707 has 2 sub outs:

1. to the 240w

2. this splitter to dual subs

Gary

This would apply to Gary as well.

I would use both LFE outputs of your 7.2 receiver for subs (one on each subwoofer) and use an RCA "Y" splitter from one of the subs to send a signal to the shakers. This would allow Onkyo/Audessey to handle each sub individually. This would allow you to take full advantage of your 7.2 capable AVR. Does that make sense?

This would apply to Gary as well.

I'm relatively new to HT so I expeiment a lot. But I thought I remember reading in the monster Audyssey thread that some AVR's with 2 sub out's are not always really 2 separate channels. But 1 sub channel internally split to the two outs. (I don't know if this is the case for my Onkyo 707 or not)

I also thought that it may depend on which version Audyssey your AVR has (if it has Audyssey). Mine has MultEQ, which I'm not sure treats the 2 subs outs separately or individually?

But anyways, when I have some time I'll try re-running my set up as you suggest savior sound. Thanks for the input.

Gary

Anyone that has Berkline theater seats (I don't remember my model number) with the Aura bass shakers attached, can you attach a picture of how you mounted your shakers?

Thanks

Anyone that has Berkline theater seats (I don't remember my model number) with the Aura bass shakers attached, can you attach a picture of how you mounted your shakers?

Thanks

I don't have any pics but here is a website I used with alot of great info on how to mount the bass shakers to a Berkline. I didn't use the same bass shaker but rather the Pro version so I only used one instead of two per chair.

Good luck!

http://www.dvarchive.org/Shakers/

I don't have any pics but here is a website I used with alot of great info on how to mount the bass shakers to a Berkline. I didn't use the same bass shaker but rather the Pro version so I only used one instead of two per chair.

Good luck!

http://www.dvarchive.org/Shakers/

That is PERFECT, thanks :)

That is PERFECT, thanks :)

Depending on your model of chair, that mounting position might not work. I have the Berkline 13175's and tried for hours to position the shakers as shown in that image. However, the power reclining mechanism would always grind on the shakers...the recline still worked, but I didn't think the metal-on-metal was good over the long-term.

I then positioned the shakers behind the seats as shown on the previous page of this thread in my post...but the shaking seemed localized. However, the third time I finally struck gold.

I flipped over the chair and decided to mount the shakers to the wooden frame that supports the seats. I attached mounting brackets to a 1x6 board and screwed the brackets directly into the wooden seat frame.

This provided a wide base tied securely into the seat frame to mount the shakers. The more you "tie" the pro-shakers into the seat frame it improves the impact....and by spreading the effect across the entire seat frame it smooths out the shaking and cuts down on a feeling of localized shaking.

I've been running with this set-up in my back row of seats and I am very happy with the results. I still need to remount the front row and can post pictures if needed.

Hi everyone and thank you for useful and qualified advice.
This being my first post here, here's part of my experience with shakers.
I own 4 Monacor BR-25 shakers and one t.amp s-200 amplifier(100W/4ohms per channel).
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carpower-BR-25-50W-Car-Audio-Bass-Rocker-/140534136782
Since installing the shakers in my(very old couch) did not give the expected results(awful rattling and buzzing from different metal and wooden elements) I build myself this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/146/dsci1761h.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/806/dsci1764.jpg/

I can rest my feet on it or even sit on. Not for a long time, though.
This is kind of selfish, but until I will buy a new couch I'm the only one shakin' here.

It is inspired by some Buttkicker platform I have tried at Frankfurt MusikMesse(Music Fair) years ago.
http://www.thebuttkicker.com/musicians/accessories/bkp.htm
For anyone interested in details, just ask.

Vlad

Depending on your model of chair, that mounting position might not work. I have the Berkline 13175's and tried for hours to position the shakers as shown in that image. However, the power reclining mechanism would always grind on the shakers...the recline still worked, but I didn't think the metal-on-metal was good over the long-term.

I then positioned the shakers behind the seats as shown on the previous page of this thread in my post...but the shaking seemed localized. However, the third time I finally struck gold.

I flipped over the chair and decided to mount the shakers to the wooden frame that supports the seats. I attached mounting brackets to a 1x6 board and screwed the brackets directly into the wooden seat frame.

This provided a wide base tied securely into the seat frame to mount the shakers. The more you "tie" the pro-shakers into the seat frame it improves the impact....and by spreading the effect across the entire seat frame it smooths out the shaking and cuts down on a feeling of localized shaking.

I've been running with this set-up in my back row of seats and I am very happy with the results. I still need to remount the front row and can post pictures if needed.

I just looked at your picture and will give it a try before I try the other way. The model of chair I have is similar to the one shown before but your looks like less work.

Do you have any problem with the back seat brushing against the speaker as you recline?

I had to buy an external crossover for my stereo receiver since it doesn't allow me to set what crossover I want; I only want 50Hz and below to play. Found one online that has a 50Hz crossover for only $10.

I need some help.......

i hooked up my 240w dayton amp and wired 3 shakers in series....and....nothing! I probably have something hooked up wrong. do i hook up the shakers to the "To Speakers" terminal or the "From Amplifier"? right know i have them hooked to the RIGHT "To Speaker" Terminals and i have the phase set to Norm. I thought i had beat the ground loop problem i was having (inserted cheater plug), but when i plugged in the amp...it begins again. sigh. Any help would be great.

I have my Pioneer Receiver xover at 80hz on my dual legends.

Thanks,

so it looks like my problem is that i am not using the wires on the front of the amp. can somebody explain how to get those wires to my first shaker. i am lost. and i thought i did my research...

Matt at partsexpress walked me through it... i think i know what to do.

I got them working, what should i set my xover to on the amp? right now i left it at 40hz. my subs are xover to 80hz.

thanks

Has anyone used this combination Clark Synthesis TST209 Tactile Transducer, and Dayton Audio APA150 150W Power Amplifier?? What do you guys think? Do you think the Dayton has enough power? Thanks John

can I hook up one bass shaker using my dedicated 5.1 receiver? The sub also has speaker in and out puts.

If so could some one explain exactly the wiring.

Thanks

can I hook up one bass shaker using my dedicated 5.1 receiver? The sub also has speaker in and out puts.

If so could some one explain exactly the wiring.

Thanks

The answer is it depends...

The only way you can hook it up to the receiver is to sacrifice one of the 5 non-sub channels to drive the amplified signal to the bass shaker.
The key is that you need an amplifier.
I've got an older 7.2 receiver that I use solely for bass shakers. I connect the sub output from my main receiver to the CD input of the shaker receiver, and then connect two bass shakers in series (=8 Ohms) per output. I have the shaker receiver in all channel stereo mode. I can drive up to 14 shakers simultaneously this way.

The answer is it depends...

The only way you can hook it up to the receiver is to sacrifice one of the 5 non-sub channels to drive the amplified signal to the bass shaker.
The key is that you need an amplifier.
I've got an older 7.2 receiver that I use solely for bass shakers. I connect the sub output from my main receiver to the CD input of the shaker receiver, and then connect two bass shakers in series (=8 Ohms) per output. I have the shaker receiver in all channel stereo mode. I can drive up to 14 shakers simultaneously this way.

Ok so If I ran another set of speaker wire from lets say one of the front mains to the speaker input on the sub then another set of speaker wire from the out of the sub to the bass shaker that would work?

Ok so If I ran another set of speaker wire from lets say one of the front mains to the speaker input on the sub then another set of speaker wire from the out of the sub to the bass shaker that would work?

It might, and I could give you a better answer if I could figure out what you're trying to say. Could you rewrite that with some punctuation, and preferably split into 2-3 sentences? Even better yet, make a list if which wires are going from which component to which.

You make no mention of the receiver, unless you meant front main speaker connectors when you said front mains. If so, it could work, except that your sub has a crossover/filter and will only send higher frequecies onto the shaker- not something you want really.
Also it would mean you lose one if the front main channels, unless 'another wire' meant in parallel with the speaker. Also not recommended. Best eould be to buy a cheap Dayton amp from partsexpress.com.

The answer is it depends...

The only way you can hook it up to the receiver is to sacrifice one of the 5 non-sub channels to drive the amplified signal to the bass shaker.
The key is that you need an amplifier.
I've got an older 7.2 receiver that I use solely for bass shakers. I connect the sub output from my main receiver to the CD input of the shaker receiver, and then connect two bass shakers in series (=8 Ohms) per output. I have the shaker receiver in all channel stereo mode. I can drive up to 14 shakers simultaneously this way.

Sorry for the rant. You said that it could work, but depends. Basically I was thinking about running two speakers wires from one of the speaker channels. Connect that set of speaker cable to the input on the sub, run another set of speaker wire from the output of the sub to the bass shaker.

You kind of answered that I would here higher freq threw the bass shaker doing it that way.

Can you think of another way it could be done with a dedicated 5.1 receiver?

Thanks

Are you using all five amplified channels on your receiver for speakers?
You really need a separate amp if you are. You'll get a lot better performance and it'll be a lot easier to hook-up too. Otherwise you need to get some crossovers that will split an amplified signal to low frequecies going to the shakers, and the higher frequencies to you front speakers. You will need to do this with two shakers and not just one. You will need a way of making sure that the impedance the receiver sees for this weirdness is within its specifications.
You can probably get a 70s or 80s era amp/receiver that'll do the job for about $20 on craigslist.

Are you using all five amplified channels on your receiver for speakers?
You really need a separate amp if you are. You'll get a lot better performance and it'll be a lot easier to hook-up too. Otherwise you need to get some crossovers that will split an amplified signal to low frequecies going to the shakers, and the higher frequencies to you front speakers. You will need to do this with two shakers and not just one. You will need a way of making sure that the impedance the receiver sees for this weirdness is within its specifications.
You can probably get a 70s or 80s ear amp/receiver that'll do the job for about $20 on craigslist.

Yep using all five channels. It could work on a 7.2 receiver only using 5.1 channels?

Would it just be easier and perform better to pick up a cheap external amp?

Yep using all five channels. It could work on a 7.2 receiver only using 5.1 channels?

Would it just be easier and perform better to pick up a cheap external amp?

It could work if the receiver had multichannel analogue inputs. Others in this thread have found different solutions, so try to go through previous posts if you're interested.

Yes it would be best to get a cheap used or new external receiver/amp. Are you using Aura Bass Shakers? They only go down to 20Hz so regular receivers/amps will handle that. Otherwise e.g. you have a buttkicker LFE, you should get an amp that goes lower, typically a subwoofer amp.

It could work if the receiver had multichannel analogue inputs. Others in this thread have found different solutions, so try to go through previous posts if you're interested.

Yes it would be best to get a cheap used or new external receiver/amp. Are you using Aura Bass Shakers? They only go down to 20Hz so regular receivers/amps will handle that. Otherwise e.g. you have a buttkicker LFE, you should get an amp that goes lower, typically a subwoofer amp.

It's just one single aura bass shaker.

I just remembered I have a extra working MFW amp. That would work, right?

Not to interrupt the conversation between you and fitbrit, but yes an mfw amp
would work. Just run a sub line out from your existing sub (y-splitter) into the
input of the mfw. Wire the speaker leads from the mfw to the shaker.
Adjust the level of the amp to match the shaker.

I strongly suggest you buy another aura shaker, one is pretty weak at a single sitting
position. Mount the shaker(s) one closer to the front of the seat, and one towards
the rear. Do not attach the shaker to springs or such in the chair/recliner, as that will
really cut down on the vibration.

I have 4 auras wired in series/parallel, two under each home theater recliner.
Powered by a Parts Express 240w amp, they have worked great for 4 years,

Good luck, vardo

Not to interrupt the conversation between you and fitbrit, but yes an mfw amp
would work. Just run a sub line out from your existing sub (y-splitter) into the
input of the mfw. Wire the speaker leads from the mfw to the shaker.
Adjust the level of the amp to match the shaker.

I strongly suggest you buy another aura shaker, one is pretty weak at a single sitting
position. Mount the shaker(s) one closer to the front of the seat, and one towards
the rear. Do not attach the shaker to springs or such in the chair/recliner, as that will
really cut down on the vibration.

I have 4 auras wired in series/parallel, two under each home theater recliner.
Powered by a Parts Express 240w amp, they have worked great for 4 years,

Good luck, vardo


vardo. Thanks so much for the exact way to wire. That is how I thought it would work. Can only one be ran off the MFW amp? This for my brother so it's up to him if he needs to add more later.

tooskinny, I don't know what version mfw amp you have, so I don't know the wattage.
My guess is you could easily run 6 aura shakers with it.

Like I stated in my post above, my Dayton 240w amp can easily move 4 shakers
with no problem.


Regards, vardo

tooskinny, I don't know what version mfw amp you have, so I don't know the wattage.
My guess is you could easily run 6 aura shakers with it.

Like I stated in my post above, my Dayton 240w amp can easily move 4 shakers
with no problem.


Regards, vardo

The amp is rated at 300w Turns out my brother has a sub I gave him that blew the driver.. I'm going to try using that amp first rated a 200w.

Thanks again vardo.

Just wanted to come back and thank everyone who helped me out. Hook up was simple thanks to the replies. The amp worked great and my brother loves it.......

Thanks again

Currently I have a little Klipsch SW-450 subwoofer. Should I upgrade to a better sub or just buy a Buttkicker to complement the SW-450?

Can anyone provide suggestions about what to use for rubber feet under theater chairs? I was happy with the shaking effect without any additional feet on Palliser Pacifico seats, but they slid on the wood floor too easily and the 4 side-by-side seats were impossible to keep aligned. I added these feet ( http://www.amazon.com/Penn-Elcom-F1687-Rubber-Cabinet-Foot/dp/B00086GYIS/ref=pd_cp_e_4 ) which helped eliminate the sliding, but the shaking effect feels very artificial now -- it feels like the chair is vibrating rather than the room shaking as it felt before. I know some people here are using rubber isolation feet and find that it improves the shaking effect, but I'm finding the effect much worse since adding these particular feet. I'm not sure if these feet are poor for the task or if it's something about my particular setup that causes it to be worse than without feet. Please let me know which feet you have used and how it affected the shaking effect.

Can anyone provide suggestions about what to use for rubber feet under theater chairs? I was happy with the shaking effect without any additional feet on Palliser Pacifico seats, but they slid on the wood floor too easily and the 4 side-by-side seats were impossible to keep aligned. I added these feet ( http://www.amazon.com/Penn-Elcom-F1687-Rubber-Cabinet-Foot/dp/B00086GYIS/ref=pd_cp_e_4 ) which helped eliminate the sliding, but the shaking effect feels very artificial now -- it feels like the chair is vibrating rather than the room shaking as it felt before. I know some people here are using rubber isolation feet and find that it improves the shaking effect, but I'm finding the effect much worse since adding these particular feet. I'm not sure if these feet are poor for the task or if it's something about my particular setup that causes it to be worse than without feet. Please let me know which feet you have used and how it affected the shaking effect.

http://www.markertek.com/Audio-Equipment/Speakers/Speaker-Cabinet-Components/Penn-Elcom-Inc/PENN-ELCOM-9106.xhtml
i use these on my berklines
they work great, the ones from markertek are rubbery and soft, the ones i got from partsexpress, exact same feet, were hard and smelled bad. You might have some hard feet from partsexpress.

maybe you should take a picture of how you have the feet mounted to share, maybe something is wrong with the way its mounted

http://www.markertek.com/Audio-Equipment/Speakers/Speaker-Cabinet-Components/Penn-Elcom-Inc/PENN-ELCOM-9106.xhtml
i use these on my berklines
they work great, the ones from markertek are rubbery and soft, the ones i got from partsexpress, exact same feet, were hard and smelled bad. You might have some hard feet from partsexpress.

maybe you should take a picture of how you have the feet mounted to share, maybe something is wrong with the way its mounted

Thanks, I might give the feet you suggest a try to see if they work better. I don't have a photo handy, but the ones I have are just screwed to the bottom of the standard Palliser chair feet (those feet are hard plastic). The ones I have are much shorter than the ones you are using (3/8" vs 1"), which I thought would have less of an isolation effect, but it seems like they isolate a lot. I think it's worth trying the ones you have suggested since they are working for you. The feet you have are larger diameter than mine, so maybe that extra diameter helps. Also, the contact patch on yours is a ring rather than the flat rubber pad on mine, so that may also make a significant difference. I think I will give them a try and see how it works.

Thanks, I might give the feet you suggest a try to see if they work better. I don't have a photo handy, but the ones I have are just screwed to the bottom of the standard Palliser chair feet (those feet are hard plastic). The ones I have are much shorter than the ones you are using (3/8" vs 1"), which I thought would have less of an isolation effect, but it seems like they isolate a lot. I think it's worth trying the ones you have suggested since they are working for you. The feet you have are larger diameter than mine, so maybe that extra diameter helps. Also, the contact patch on yours is a ring rather than the flat rubber pad on mine, so that may also make a significant difference. I think I will give them a try and see how it works.

i used these on my berkline, i had 1 on the bottom of each original hard plastic foot on my frame (keeping the original in place), and on the wooden arm rests i replaced the original plastic one with 2 stacked rubber ones. The heights happened to match up.

i used these on my berkline, i had 1 on the bottom of each original hard plastic foot on my frame (keeping the original in place), and on the wooden arm rests i replaced the original plastic one with 2 stacked rubber ones. The heights happened to match up.

Thanks for the info -- replacing the original hare plastic feet is a very interesting thought, I'll definitely check into whether that's possible with the Pallisers when the feet I ordered come in.

Ok guys i'm new to this so here goes. I picked up 4 of the k-woon shakers 60 watt at 2 ohm. plus a dayton 240w amp. It does 240 at 4 ohm and 170 at 8 ohm. What would be the best way to wire these up? I was thinking about just doing them in a series which would put an 8 ohm load? would I bridge the connection on the amp?

I appreciate any input thanks.

So I installed my bass shakers today on my Berkline chairs and like the rumble that I got. Unfortunately the stereo receiver I bought doesn't have an internal crossover so I get everything from 80Hz and below. I bought an external crossover, but didn't realize that it is for a car install so it needs 8V DC of power so that will be going back to Amazon.

Can anyone recommend an external crossover I can use to filter out everything above 50Hz.

Thanks

I am about ready to but two of the wireless buttkicker kits but I have a couple of questions....
1) can I hook the wireless units up to my LFE outputs on my Martin Logan Abyss subwoofers?
2) do you guys think two of the wireless kits would be enough "kick" for the average person on a sectional couch?
3) would I be much better off buying two of the LFE Buttkicker kits over the wireless kits(I can run the wires but I would prefer not to rip up my carpet again)?
4) I see that allot of you guys attach the Buttkicker units directly to your couch/chair frame. Does this work better than the leg plates that Buttkicker supplies in their kits?
Sorry for all of the questions but I know nothing about these shakers. My receiver is a Pioneer Elite SC-35 if that helps at all. Thanks for your assistance

So I installed my bass shakers today on my Berkline chairs and like the rumble that I got. Unfortunately the stereo receiver I bought doesn't have an internal crossover so I get everything from 80Hz and below. I bought an external crossover, but didn't realize that it is for a car install so it needs 8V DC of power so that will be going back to Amazon.

Can anyone recommend an external crossover I can use to filter out everything above 50Hz.

Thanks

In case anyone is interested I plan to get these (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=266-250)to filter out everything above 50 Hz for my shakers.

Ordered 4 aura shakers and was wondering what the ideal frequence range people are using with these? Is it 50hz and below? or are people just letting the receivers send full LFE signal to them?

I have a 9.2 receiver, and it can set the crossover frequency for the subwoofer (and shakers) separately for each of the 4 pair and centre channel. So basically I send (lowest frequency handled by speakers + 10 Hz) to the buttkickers/shakers.

I have a 9.2 receiver, and it can set the crossover frequency for the subwoofer (and shakers) separately for each of the 4 pair and centre channel. So basically I send (lowest frequency handled by speakers + 10 Hz) to the buttkickers/shakers.
So if ya have your speakers at 80hz your sending 90hz to the shakers?

I installed mine like this (http://www.dvarchive.org/Shakers/)on my Berkline's and like the shake I get out of them. You may get better results if you mount your similar.

Good luck

I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but was wondering what people were doing for amplification for their buttkicker LFE's? I was wanting to buy the LFE kit since it seems like such a good deal, but every place appears to be out of stock of the kits and / or the amps.

Is everyone just going with a different amp, like the Crown 1500? Or is there new stock on the horizon?

Thanks

I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but was wondering what people were doing for amplification for their buttkicker LFE's? I was wanting to buy the LFE kit since it seems like such a good deal, but every place appears to be out of stock of the kits and / or the amps.

Is everyone just going with a different amp, like the Crown 1500? Or is there new stock on the horizon?

Thanks


Hey Jeff. I'm in the same boat as you. The buttkicker AMP is out of stock most places until late November. I was looking into Behringer 2500 (as it is supposed to be a *cleaner* power amp), but I encountered a few unanswered questions,

1) The Behringer isn't really designed to work with the Buttkicker LFE (in the sense that I don't know if it really has a flat response down to 5Hz. The buttkicker amp appears more suited for LFE content).

2) The Behringer probably can't be driven via RCA input. It requires pro gear, which means XLR or whatever other 1/4" inch input they use. Even if you use an RCA/XLR conversion, apparently the voltage in might not be enough when using regular consumer gear (sub outs on lets say, an Onkyo TX-SR608 amp like mine). You have to double check that yourself.

So I'm basically stuck waiting for the Buttkicker amp as well. It apparently has more distortion than other amps, but for bass shaker purposes it seems to work fine.

Unless someone can suggest how to get over these two limitations, I will have to wait.

Well just got my Buttkicker LFE kit with an extra LFE module because I have a large sectional couch. I can't believe I waited this long to add these babies! I do have a couple of setup questions.
1- I have my klipsch reference 5.2 set at 80hz. What would be the optimum setting for the Butkicker 1000 amplifier high cutoff frequency?
2- what are the low cutoff and the high cutoff switches for?
I have my low pass filter on my two Martin Logan abyss subwoofers set at 50hz and I am running the LFE signal to the Buttkicker amplifier via the sub out on one of my subs. Sorry if these questions are totally noob but I don't know much about HT but I am addicted to the equipment ;)

1) 80-100 Hz is fine for high cut off unless you really like the couch to shake at even higher frequencies.
2) The high cut-off switch allows you to use the dial and choose what the highest frequency the buttkicker will respond to.
The low cut-off switch limits the buttkicker to 25 Hz - a waste to use this, in my opinion, as I know that my LFE easily handles 10 Hz.

What concerns me is that you have your Klipsch speakers set at 80 Hz but your subwoofer set at 50 Hz; what is handling the 50 to 80 Hz range?
Also, does your AV receiver have subwoofer cross-over control? If so, that will supersede all other settings except the low pass cutoffs should you choose to enable it.

Thank you fitbrit! I am very lost, I bought all of this equipment and I don't think it is operating at it's maximum level. I have a Pioneer SC-35 and I just ran the MCACC setup and this is what it's showing me....
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/K5SS/SAM_0180.jpg

Thank you fitbrit! I am very lost, I bought all of this equipment and I don't think it is operating at it's maximum level. I have a Pioneer SC-35 and I just ran the MCACC setup and this is what it's showing me....


Your subwoofer's gain is too high if it is showing -12db after calibration. Ideally you would want it within +/-3db after you run MCACC.

That's strange. I only have the gain on both subs set at 50%. should I adjust the gain on the subs lower than 50%?

That's strange. I only have the gain on both subs set at 50%. should I adjust the gain on the subs lower than 50%?

Yes. Depending on the sub, it could be quite loud at even 50%. Mine are usually at 25-40%

Anyone have any suggestions for shakers that are not Buttkickers? I currently use the Buttkicker wireless system and while its awesome it rattles and clanks too much(from bottoming out)

right now i have 4 chairs with 1 base shaker in each one..2 chairs are connected in series going to the left speaker output of my old receiver and the other 2 are connected in series going to the right output...but i will be losing 1 chair so now i only have 3 chairs how do i hook these up?

3 in series?
or 2 in series going to the left output of my reciver and 1 connected by itself going to the right output? thanks

Just ordered 4 Aura pro's and a 240 watt plate amp from PE,the shakers and amp are special price right now.I'll be using all 4 in my couch,I've never experienced transducers before so I'm looking forward to it.

http://www.markertek.com/Audio-Equipment/Speakers/Speaker-Cabinet-Components/Penn-Elcom-Inc/PENN-ELCOM-9106.xhtml
i use these on my berklines
they work great, the ones from markertek are rubbery and soft, the ones i got from partsexpress, exact same feet, were hard and smelled bad. You might have some hard feet from partsexpress.

Thanks for this suggestion. I ordered these feet from Markertek immediately after your post but didn't have a chance to put them on until recently. These made a big difference. The original thin rubber mounts I had on made the shaking feel much worse (felt like a seat vibrator rather than the room shaking as it did originally without any additional feet). These make it feel close to original and the seats absolutely stick to the wood floor like glue unless you lift them up. The seats used to slide all over the place with just the stock plastic feet. I think they would feel even better if I could replace the stock plastic feet with the rubber feet rather than bolting them to the original feet, but I haven't been able to get the stock ones off the Palliser Pacifico seats.

right now i have 4 chairs with 1 base shaker in each one..2 chairs are connected in series going to the left speaker output of my old receiver and the other 2 are connected in series going to the right output...but i will be losing 1 chair so now i only have 3 chairs how do i hook these up?

3 in series?
or 2 in series going to the left output of my reciver and 1 connected by itself going to the right output? thanks

can anyone help?

I would suggest doing what i did. I have 2 shakers in the middle seat

I agree on using 2 shakers to drive one chair. You could use the amp balance control to reduce the level to the chair with 2 shakers if it feels too strong.

Another solution if you don't want to have 2 shakers in 1 chair might be to wire a 4 ohm power resister in series with the single shaker to roughly match the side with 2 shakers. Some power is wasted in the resistor, but who cares.

Ok so I just laid out over a $1500 for 6 Buttkicker advance units, a behreinger EPX4000 amp and spent 2 weeks designing and bolting these things to my 6 recliners only to have the BIGGEST letdown ever last night...I couldnt get these things to work at all i switched stuff around for 3 hours and finally gave up!!!! I checked all the + and - connections everything looked fine.

Equipment:
Receiver Yamaha Aventage 3010
Berhinger EPX 4000
6 Buttkicker advance units connected in 2 series (2 rows of 3 recliners)


I have attached a diagram of my setup...(crude diagram)

Connections

Subwoofer 1 goes to a regular subwoofer

Ok so I connected the subwoofer 2 output of my Yamaha receiver into a Y-Splitter which then feeds 2 rca wires into the EPX4000 amp.

I then have 2 rows of 3 Buttkickers wired in series.

Each of these rows feeds 1 channel on the EPX4000 amp.


The setting on my receiver for the subwoofer 2 are in-phase and at 1.0 db, when I run a test tone setup everything runs fine to my regular subwoofer but my kickers dont do anything, i've adjusted the db from highest to lowest on both the receiver and amp, i dont know what to do next any ideas or help would be much appreciated.

So I talked to a great guy (Andrew) at the Guitammer Co. He said that he is pretty sure that I just need a pre-amp. I guess the behringer EPX4000 input sensitivity is at ~1.2 volts being intended for musicians and most Home audio equip outputs at 200-300 milivolts. So I guess I need to bump up the power....ugh more $$$ If this doenst fix the issue I am gonna scream! LOL!:eek:

I have three shakers I salvaged from our old HT long ago. I used to use a secondary 2 channel receiver to drive them. I no longer have that unit (failed). Is that still the best option or are there other more effective means? I would like to reinstall the three shakers in our new sofa.

If thats the best and easiest bet - what is the lowest price option out there? Maybe something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

I have three shakers I salvaged from our old HT long ago. I used to use a secondary 2 channel receiver to drive them. I no longer have that unit (failed). Is that still the best option or are there other more effective means? I would like to reinstall the three shakers in our new sofa.

If thats the best and easiest bet - what is the lowest price option out there? Maybe something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

That AudioSource looks like a very clean solution. One thing it lacks though that might be helpful is a remote control for volume control. My experience has been that no matter how carefully you dial in the shake level, there are always some programs/movies with either too much or too little shake based on how they mixed the audio. Having a remote volume control can be handy to tweak it on the fly. We programmed buttons on the Harmony for "shake up" and "shake down" to make it easy to adjust remotely. Other than that, though, the AudioSource looks like a nice compact solution.

Shakers generally work better if you have a low pass filter to remove anything above around 50hz, so that would need to be done outside AudioSource if that is important to you.

Well this is my first ever post to AVS, so please excuse any ignorance. (long time reader though)
I just discovered the existance of tactile transducers last week... and have been reading all the information I can find on them..... most of which leads back to butt-kickers.

I am far from an audio expert.... but MAN DO I LOVE movies and GAMING (PS3 - BF3 specifically). I really want a buttkicker set up for my couch in my living room. I am poor... lol no house no media room no theatre room, but I work with what I have.

hmm .. what I have... (please don't laugh...) Alright My receiver is a STR-2400ES which powers some cheap-ass tower speakers up front, along with the Klipsh Quintet II set (center, surrounds, rear surrounds) Oh yeah .... It's also powering, more importantly ... two sub woofers. One is a large subwoofer I bought on sale at walmart many years ago... I believe it to be a "Acous-tech" brand ... not sure, and more recently a Precision Acoustics 10" 150-Watt Powered Subwoofer (HD S10) ...got it for $99 which i thought was a good price new.

I have yet to look under my couch (black leather... beat to ****) .... but each end reclines and the middle doesn't, picked it up online for like $100 last year.

What I really want is the buttkicker LFE kit. But the Amps don't seem to be available anywhere.

I think I would settle for the wireless kit ... My main question to start I guess is how much OOOMPH difference am I going to notice if I choose to go with the 300 Watt AMP(Wireless Kit) vs. the 1000 Watt AMP (LFE kit)

Will just one of the wireless buttkickers output enough thump if mounted under the middle of my couch to accomodate both the side reclining seats? Even if it's not mounted and the "under the foot of the couch" mount/kit is used?

I've checked ebay and there are a few (very few listings) .... I've never spent this much over ebay and it makes me nervous.... I'd much rather buy from a dealer... but they appear to be unnavailable anywhere.... can anyone comment on this. I think I read a few pages back that inventory is expected at the end of January.

I am not stupid for wanting a buttkicker am I .... Is "buttkicker" -> tactile transducer as "Monster" -> Cables.?
I am definitely a "monoprice" kinda guy (side note.. just ordered a bunch of banana plugs and speaker equivilents that I am recieving today)

From what I've read everyone is so happy with their products(buttkicker).....

If anyone in the forums is selling stuff I could use I would be more than happy to save some $ and support this awesome community, or if anyone can link me in the right direction that would be great also ... I have been scouring ebay, craigslist, and kijiji ... but only really looking for buttkicker... because anything else seems to get so technical whereas the buttkicker kit comes with everything necessary!

Ps. Shipping can be a consideration since I am in Toronto, Ontario, Canada ... not the US.

Good luck finding all the parts you need (AMPS). I am in the process of trying to get my setup to work and have spent hours on here and at home tweaking stuff to no avail. $1500= into this for 6 recliners I have nothing working yet. Buttkicker company is supposed to have stock of everything by January they said, but it seems like they have been saying this for over a year now just keep pushing back the date. I am too far deep $$$-wise into my project to abandon it now.

My advice to you is to just wait til the right parts like the AMP are available from buttkicker and save up.

That AudioSource looks like a very clean solution. One thing it lacks though that might be helpful is a remote control for volume control. My experience has been that no matter how carefully you dial in the shake level, there are always some programs/movies with either too much or too little shake based on how they mixed the audio. Having a remote volume control can be handy to tweak it on the fly. We programmed buttons on the Harmony for "shake up" and "shake down" to make it easy to adjust remotely. Other than that, though, the AudioSource looks like a nice compact solution.

Shakers generally work better if you have a low pass filter to remove anything above around 50hz, so that would need to be done outside AudioSource if that is important to you.

Good point on the volume control - I do remember that being handy and had a similar button arrangement on my old MX-500 remote... maybe I should just do up a second standard stereo receiver...

I have an F-mod that I plan on running into the receiver. Not sure if it is a 50hz cutoff or not but something around there...

So I will split the sub out from my main receiver and send one side to my sub, the other into the F-mod then into the second receiver. Then speaker output to the shakers. I had a series setup before, but I guess the wiring setup depends on the receiver used (?)

I also just discovered that I have four shakers. I had only used three before (three Berklines) but had a "spare" in waiting. I can easily use all four this time around. However, upon examining the underside of my sofa it looks like I will need to add some wood bracing for the attachment points, otherwise I would have to attach them directly to the springs of the sofa. I would imagine that a rigid setup is the preferred method?

Okay, thanks for the advice, I am hoping to try and keep the price to about $500 tops ..we'll see how that goes.... I saw on their website buttkickergear.com that the LFE kit was the same price as the wireless kit ... but I am guessing that will likely change when they have stock...

I would prefer the wireless solution but if the 300 watt amp doesn't provide as much 'kick' as I'm hoping for .... it would be nice to have the 1000 watt amp just to know I can add an additional transducer if necessary down the road... knowing that with the wireless kit the amp is limited to just one transducer is a bit of a deal breaker...

Their seems to be more of the Gamer2 buttkickers floating around .. but I can only assume it would prove difficult to attach that rig to my couch and that it wouldn't shake the whole thing...

Okay, thanks for the advice, I am hoping to try and keep the price to about $500 tops ..we'll see how that goes.... I saw on their website buttkickergear.com that the LFE kit was the same price as the wireless kit ... but I am guessing that will likely change when they have stock...

I would prefer the wireless solution but if the 300 watt amp doesn't provide as much 'kick' as I'm hoping for .... it would be nice to have the 1000 watt amp just to know I can add an additional transducer if necessary down the road... knowing that with the wireless kit the amp is limited to just one transducer is a bit of a deal breaker...

Their seems to be more of the Gamer2 buttkickers floating around .. but I can only assume it would prove difficult to attach that rig to my couch and that it wouldn't shake the whole thing...
From what I understand the gamer is designed for like an office chair for those playing PC games, if you look on youtube there are some videos on how people modded racing rigs and other chairs to use the gamer. As far as recliner/couch I dont know if 1 gamer will give you really good effect on a recliner which also leads to the fact of solidly connecting it to something on the recliner.

I spent 2 weeks experimeneting with wood attachments but none of them worked with my recliners because of the reclining mechanism hitting the kicker. I finally just bit the bullet and bought angle iron at home depot and built "H" braces and bolted everything down tight and used a ton of loctite.

whatever you do good luck! :-)

Also wear gloves LOL my hands are so cut up and burnt from metal flake shards !!! Haaaaaa!

I am not stupid for wanting a buttkicker am I .... Is "buttkicker" -> tactile transducer as "Monster" -> Cables.?
I am definitely a "monoprice" kinda guy (side note.. just ordered a bunch of banana plugs and speaker equivilents that I am recieving today)

If you're a monoprice kind of guy, I would definitely recommend 4 Aura Pro Shakers (currently around $40 each, sometimes on sale for much less) and the AudioSource amp mentioned in the prior post or something like it. The Auras aren't wireless, but for under $250 you will have a whole lot of shaking going on. I have the Aura Pros mounted one each in 4 theater chairs and they are great. I haven't tried Buttkickers, so I don't know how the Aura compare side-by-side, but I have found nothing at all lacking in the Auras. I installed the Auras just before The Who played half-time during the Superbowl a couple years ago and it felt like the room was going to take off when we had it cranked up.

Interesting ... thanks .. maybe I will go this route.... and look into the buttkickers down the road only if necessary, I really wish I could get feedback though from someone who's tried both... I know the price is right ... but for $200 if the experience is going to be lacking compared to that of a buttkicker than I'd rather spend the extra coin!

I will do some DD on the aura shakers.... will they be a pain to install on a couch ?

question....what is the best way to wire 5 bass shakers? can i series/parallel wire them?

So I talked to a great guy (Andrew) at the Guitammer Co. He said that he is pretty sure that I just need a pre-amp. I guess the behringer EPX4000 input sensitivity is at ~1.2 volts being intended for musicians and most Home audio equip outputs at 200-300 milivolts. So I guess I need to bump up the power....ugh more $$$ If this doenst fix the issue I am gonna scream! LOL!:eek:

You may get some satisfaction by connecting two of the 'kicker in series to each of two of the speaker binding posts on your Yamaha directly, e.g. surround backs. Make sure the crossover for those channels is set at 80 Hz or so. Then play some music in all-channel stereo mode and you should get some shaking going on.
At least this way you can test the 'Kickers while the preamp is on its way.

For my son's driving seat, we use two Dayton mini "puck" shakers:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/peterp_bucket/PC074321.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/peterp_bucket/PC074322.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/peterp_bucket/PC074323.jpg

They are driven by this "powerhouse" :) T-amp (cost: ~$20):

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/peterp_bucket/PC074339.jpg

The driving seat setup works really well, although the GT5 game he uses is fairly weak on generating effects so we have to crank that T-amp up all the way.

The 4 Auro Pros are being driven by a spare channel on the McIntosh amp and controlled by an Atlantic Technology parametric sub control that provides frequency cutoff and shake level by remote:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/peterp_bucket/PC074333.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/peterp_bucket/PC074337.jpg

I really haven't found anything lacking in the Aura Pros, but I would also be interested in hearing from someone that has tried both.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/165929/guitammer-buttkicker-and-aura-bass-shakers-comparison-long

this was a pretty interesting read...

In my house I have three Buttkicker LFEs and 3 of the 1000W amps, two Buttkicker Advance with wireless amps, four Aura Bass-shakers (not Pro) and four eBay-bought K-Woon shakers.

The Auras are the same internally as the Pros, except with less efficient cooling, so they're rated at only half the power. Both these and the K-Woons go down to 20 Hz and the Buttkicker products go down to a theoretcial 5 Hz (I've successfully tested the LFEs at under 10 Hz). I can tell you that even 20 Hz is a great feeling and in most cases, the Aura and K-Woons aremore than adequate for giving an immersive sensation.
The K-Woons, in particular, are fantastic value and blow away the Auras for power.
The benefit of a 20Hz rated shaker is that one can use a normal HT receiver if required. For this, I have the option of using my old Yamaha receiver, which has a 20 Hz to 20 KHz frequency response. Added benefit is that I can use the remote, or program a universal like a Harmony to control the shaker intensity.

I really do like the quality of the buttkicker products, though. Using the platform provided in the wireless kit, I was able to get one foot each of a fairly heavy couch and loveseat combo on to it. The buttkicker Advance with the 300W wireless amp was easily able to shake the seats pleasantly in movies, even with 5 people in total seated on them. My goal is not to cause violent shaking, but rather to enhance the rumble of bass in movies, and this was done just right. I now have an LFE and 1000W amp there, and it can do all that the Advance could, of course. I have the dial up at about 1/3 and typically watch movies at -20db on my Onkyo 5007.

All this to say that I think you'll be happy with whatever solution you choose as long as it's mounted properly. A cheaper 20 Hz shaker can be a tremendous addition to your set-up, and you don't have to opt for Buttkicker stuff, although they do make a great product.

Ps. Shipping can be a consideration since I am in Toronto, Ontario, Canada ... not the US.

Jake, I'm in Montreal. I've scored Aura Bass-shakers (four for $100, shipped) and BK kits ($225 shipped for the wireless kit in pristine condition) from Canuck Audio Mart on occasion. Are you a member there? It's worth a daily perusal in the home theatre classifieds section for a bargain.

You may get some satisfaction by connecting two of the 'kicker in series to each of two of the speaker binding posts on your Yamaha directly, e.g. surround backs. Make sure the crossover for those channels is set at 80 Hz or so. Then play some music in all-channel stereo mode and you should get some shaking going on.
At least this way you can test the 'Kickers while the preamp is on its way.
Thanks for the response fitbrit! I have to try to read up on all the frequency info etc...i dont know/understand the levels and what they mean in Hertz ... what is low? and what is high end of spectrum for a sub...etc

Last night I hooked up and tried kind of what you mentioned but not directly i used rca cables into the preamp section of the receiver the external amp did get signal and it lit up but the shakers had no response... :-(

PS Nice SETUP!

will they be a pain to install on a couch ?

They're easy to mount as long as you have a solid surface to attach to. I would think on a couch there would be plenty of bracing underneath to attach to, but depends on the model. On reclining chairs or couches, you need to make sure the shakers can't get caught on anything when reclining and also ensure that the wires are secured so they can't get caught in the moving parts during recline.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/165929/guitammer-buttkicker-and-aura-bass-shakers-comparison-long

this was a pretty interesting read...

Thanks, interesting feedback. They mention an Aura modification in that thread. I found it here: http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/accessories/aura/aura_guykuo_mod.html

I might give this mod a try to lower the resonant frequency. I haven't found the Auras lacking, but sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you try something better. I do find the Auras requires tweaking for different movies, so maybe it's because the resonant frequency is higher on the Auras.

In my house I have three Buttkicker LFEs and 3 of the 1000W amps, two Buttkicker Advance with wireless amps, four Aura Bass-shakers (not Pro) and four eBay-bought K-Woon shakers.

The Auras are the same internally as the Pros, except with less efficient cooling, so they're rated at only half the power. Both these and the K-Woons go down to 10 Hz and the Buttkicker products go down to a theoretcial 5 Hz (I've successfully tested the LFEs at under 10 Hz). I can tell you that even 20 Hz is a great feeling and in most cases, the Aura and K-Woons aremore than adequate for giving an immersive sensation.
The K-Woons, in particular, are fantastic value and blow away the Auras for power.
The benefit of a 20Hz rated shaker is that one can use a normal HT receiver if required. For this, I have the option of using my old Yamaha receiver, which has a 20 Hz to 20 KHz frequency response. Added benefit is that I can use the remote, or program a universal like a Harmony to control the shaker intensity.

I really do like the quality of the buttkicker products, though. Using the platform provided in the wireless kit, I was able to get one foot each of a fairly heavy couch and loveseat combo on to it. The buttkicker Advance with the 300W wireless amp was easily able to shake the seats pleasantly in movies, even with 5 people in total seated on them. My goal is not to cause violent shaking, but rather to enhance the rumble of bass in movies, and this was done just right. I now have an LFE and 1000W amp there, and it can do all that the Advance could, of course. I have the dial up at about 1/3 and typically watch movies at -20db on my Onkyo 5007.

All this to say that I think you'll be happy with whatever solution you choose as long as it's mounted properly. A cheaper 20 Hz shaker can be a tremendous addition to your set-up, and you don't have to opt for Buttkicker stuff, although they do make a great product.

Good info -- thanks for sharing

They're easy to mount as long as you have a solid surface to attach to. I would think on a couch there would be plenty of bracing underneath to attach to, but depends on the model. On reclining chairs or couches, you need to make sure the shakers can't get caught on anything when reclining and also ensure that the wires are secured so they can't get caught in the moving parts during recline.



Thanks, interesting feedback. They mention an Aura modification in that thread. I found it here: http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/accessories/aura/aura_guykuo_mod.html

I might give this mod a try to lower the resonant frequency. I haven't found the Auras lacking, but sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you try something better. I do find the Auras requires tweaking for different movies, so maybe it's because the resonant frequency is higher on the Auras.



Good info -- thanks for sharing

I corrected a typo in my post above. Auras and K-Woons go down to 20 Hz, not 10 Hz.

Thanks for the response fitbrit! I have to try to read up on all the frequency info etc...i dont know/understand the levels and what they mean in Hertz ... what is low? and what is high end of spectrum for a sub...etc

Last night I hooked up and tried kind of what you mentioned but not directly i used rca cables into the preamp section of the receiver the external amp did get signal and it lit up but the shakers had no response... :-(

PS Nice SETUP!


Thanks! :)
Anything around 30 Hz and under is very good for a budget sub (under $300) as long as it's producing a decent output. Most subs will go up to at least 150 Hz, but you want to send anything below what your mains can handle to the sub and not much higher in Hz than that, really.

Was looking at getting 4 aura bass shakers. Which dayton amp would be sufficient to run them? I was thinking about using my old samsungbhtib receiver

This Dayton amp has worked out very well for me. Have had it hooked to 4 aura
shakers for over four years. Never a problem. Not bad for $98 bucks.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-804

Can't say anything about your Samsung receiver because I'm not familiar with it.
Can't hurt to try.

Shakers are alot of fun...one of my better investments in audio/video.

Vardo

I actually have 4 Aura Pros running off this Dayton Amp, and it's fine...

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-383

I have them hooked up in series, and the amp is turned up to the 2 o'clock position.

Not much price savings from the previous post, but smaller footprint if you're looking to put it near the chairs.

My pre-amp should be here today, can anyone recommend settings on my receiver for hz?

I noticed my 9.1 current system all the speakers are set to small and 80HZ, when I change the setting to the front ones being large it seems like there is more bass coming from all of them. does this make seense?

I also noticed that in my subwoofer setting on my receiver that i can set it from 40-200 hz...what is a good recommended setting for my shakers? I have no idea what these numbers mean, if say, I select 40hz does that mean on my receiver everything above that is cut off ? or below that number is cutoff? This is the part that always confuses me about subs.

My setup is going to be subwoofer 1 output of my receiver feeding my SVS subwoofer. And subwoofer 2 out is going to drive my 6 buttkicker advance units through a ART pre-amp to a behringer EPX4000. Hopefully my pre-amp get my shakers up and running tonight...i will report back.

I'm kind of new to posting in forums such as these.... so I won't bother to quote everyone....

Fit brit ... thanks, I am definitly going to check out the canuck audio mart and sign up ...

To everyone else.... the information is invaluable

*sheds a tear* .... I am so pissed that I threw out my old pioneer AMP just because I knew no one would re-buy it due to the volume knob being all busted off.... I'm sure it would have had the juice to power auras...

Oh well.

I have many new shakers to check up on.... including these k-woons you speak of...

furthermore... I flipped the couch last night (the middle section doesn't recline) but there's a nice solid piece of plywood on the left and right of the middle section underneath that looks like a perfect mounting solution for these tactile tranducers I want oh so badly right now ..

These are like the best kept secret in HT right now I think ... everyone I talk to techy or not has never heard of them ! I can't stop talking about it and I haven't even experienced the sensation yet !

I think I am going to give the Auras a shot ... just to check out the effect... since they are available and I want to expereience tactile transducers before spending $500 + on "buttkicker" kit. :eek:

If I buy two aura shakers or pro aura shakers (haven't looked into sales yet) .... can you explain to me how this AMP will connect to my receiver... STR-DA2400ES :)

I currently have two subs ... so I am guessing I just keep them the same as they are now and just add a male to 2-female splitter at my receiver... with the extra female I run an interconnect cable to this new amp.... wire go from amp to aura shakers... which mount under my couch .... is it that easy...? :cool:

This isn't probably the right place to ask ... but if someone here knows the answer I would love to not need to not jump ship to another topic,
:confused::confused:
My reciever is a Sony STR-DA2400ES .... in the manual it says to plug my sub into the pre out near the top of the amp to get it working.... oddly enough it doesn't work from there but when I plug the sub into the multi channel IN sub spot it works .. and that's how I've been using it ... am I missing out on something here... the manual doesn't even mention the other sub IN multi channel spot unless I missed that page... I've basically read it cover to cover.

I actually have 4 Aura Pros running off this Dayton Amp, and it's fine...

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-383

I have them hooked up in series, and the amp is turned up to the 2 o'clock position.

Not much price savings from the previous post, but smaller footprint if you're looking to put it near the chairs.

Without have the high cutoff of the buttkicker amp ... you don't find that you get shake on frequencies that are higher than you'd prefer... ie) the 65-80 HZ range... ?

Okay guys... please pipe in and tell me what you think ... overkill .. or about just right ...

This is what I am looking at :

1 x http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-805
4 x http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=299-028&scqty=4

Will this be everything I need to be up and running ?
:confused::):D

... anyone ?? .. I am about to order... $68.00 shipping is a little rough!

... OKAY I did it ... expect to hear back from me soon !!!! I ordered what I posted above but figured I would start with just two of the Aura Pro's

total order was $234 with shipping (almost $60)

If anyone can suggest anything else I might need I'm open ... going to place an order with monoprice later tonight.... I want some good speaker wire jacket strippers .... I'm thinking if the AMP is near my couch I will need a 25' or so interconnect cable to go from receiver to new amp. thoughts?

Success!!!! Pre-amp worked like a charm! Now I'll need to tweak these out...any good movie recommendations? I have everything in my room laying around gonna have to button it all up nice over the next week. And adjust my Hz settings

Super 8, I think my couch must have moved about a foot during the train crash.

I have base shakers now and hooked up to a old 80's amp they work great when there is a plane crash car explosion or gun fire but what I don't like is when the part of a movie has music back ground you can also feel the music. I don't like that just in action parts like explosions etc. any recommendations

Order an in-line FMOD from Parts Express. I'd start with a 70 or 50hz low pass filter.

I think I saw them for $26 for a pair.

Easy-peasy.

How ironic - I just got my shakers hooked up today. Its great to get a chance to use them again - they have been sitting in a storage container for two years. Yikes.

I have (somewhere) a 50hz (brown striped) FMOD but can no longer find it. It is the one I used to use in my old setup...

I did find my 70hz (purple band) FMOD deep in a drawer. The purple banded one is too high of a cutoff IMHO after doing some testing today, so I will be ordering up a new 50hz low pass one.

Here is a pic mid-install :)


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Holy cow! That couch and lounger are going to walk across the room with all that power!

Success!!!! Pre-amp worked like a charm! Now I'll need to tweak these out...any good movie recommendations? I have everything in my room laying around gonna have to button it all up nice over the next week. And adjust my Hz settings

What preamp did you use?

Order an in-line FMOD from Parts Express. I'd start with a 70 or 50hz low pass filter.

I think I saw them for $26 for a pair.

Easy-peasy.

thanks but do i use 1 or do i buddy connect the 2 together?

thanks but do i use 1 or do i buddy connect the 2 together?


Start with one and see how it is.

right now i have 4 chairs with 1 base shaker in each one..2 chairs are connected in series going to the left speaker output of my old receiver and the other 2 are connected in series going to the right output...but i will be losing 1 chair so now i only have 3 chairs how do i hook these up?

3 in series?
or 2 in series going to the left output of my reciver and 1 connected by itself going to the right output? thanks

can someone please help me with this set up? thanks

Start with one and see how it is.

do they make a 30hrz low pass or is 50 the lowest

can someone please help me with this set up? thanks

I think a best option would be to wire the three in series and just go with one speaker output.

do they make a 30hrz low pass or is 50 the lowest

50Hz is the lowest...

thanks but do i use 1 or do i buddy connect the 2 together?

I have used both FMODs together but ended up liking just one...

What preamp did you use?
pjp,

I used a ART DJ Pre II Phono Preamp, someone on one of these threads recommended it and its perfect, compact and does the trick. It was $39 bucks. Thank god I got this thing running i was getting deeper and deeper into a endless $$$ pit it seemed like.

can someone please help me with this set up? thanks
I have the same exact setup X2 because I have 2 rows of three. If you go to the buttkicker website they have a diagram of how to hook it up its so simple...I also posted a crude diagram on this thread #2112 go check it out.

Loving all this great feedback ... !

I am stoked .... my amp and shakers are on the truck out for delivery right now in my neighborhood.

I also placed an order for a 25' sub woofer cable (just in case... ) and those FMOD things 50Hz low pass.

Sunday the wife is gone away .... so I plan on having evreything all hooked up and running for when she gets back ...

I think the only crucial thing I am missing currently is a y splitter *sigh* hopefully I can pick one up nearby on saturday if necessary.

I have fem -> male Y, not male -> female

Loving all this great feedback ... !

I am stoked .... my amp and shakers are on the truck out for delivery right now in my neighborhood.

I also placed an order for a 25' sub woofer cable (just in case... ) and those FMOD things 50Hz low pass.

Sunday the wife is gone away .... so I plan on having evreything all hooked up and running for when she gets back ...

I think the only crucial thing I am missing currently is a y splitter *sigh* hopefully I can pick one up nearby on saturday if necessary.

I have fem -> male Y, not male -> female
You can find the splitters at Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, even Advanced auto. They are cheap under $10...

I am slightly ahead of you in the whole up and running process. I'm in the tuning stage of my stuff this weekend, been reading alot about subwoofer settings and experimenting with them nightly, its hard to really test a system nicely with no distractions with a wife and kids running around on weeknights ...


PS Yay I made Senior Member status!

Yeah I hear that.... watching SOA or some movie and the wife comes along and turns down the volume... *sigh*

Yeah I hear that.... watching SOA or some movie and the wife comes along and turns down the volume... *sigh*
LOL exactly...must be genitic, I say next time they are putting makeup on or screwing around with some hair crap we walk by turn the lights off!

pjp,

I used a ART DJ Pre II Phono Preamp, someone on one of these threads recommended it and its perfect, compact and does the trick. It was $39 bucks. Thank god I got this thing running i was getting deeper and deeper into a endless $$$ pit it seemed like.

Thanks for sharing, that looks like a nice preamp. The gain is borderline for the mini-shakers I have in the driving seat, so something like this might help. The phono preamp has a built-in RIAA equalization, which boosts low frequencies considerable and attenuates high frequencies, but I think it should be fine for shaker use. Glad to hear that you have it up and running after making the investment!

parts express.... anyone else order from there and have them shipped to canada?

not only was shipping like almost $60 .... I had to pay another $50 C.O.D ...:eek:
:mad: I wasn't home but my friend covered it and I have to pay her back .. what is that all about... from what I read on parts express... the duties or whatever shipping fees were included in the $60 I paid .... is the gov's way of taxing me or something ? grrr! :mad:

this doesn't happen when I order from monoprice ... what's the difference ?

parts express.... anyone else order from there and have them shipped to canada?

not only was shipping like almost $60 .... I had to pay another $50 C.O.D ...:eek:
:mad: I wasn't home but my friend covered it and I have to pay her back .. what is that all about... from what I read on parts express... the duties or whatever shipping fees were included in the $60 I paid .... is the gov's way of taxing me or something ? grrr! :mad:

this doesn't happen when I order from monoprice ... what's the difference ?

Kind of off-topic, but i'll try to answer. A lot depends on the shipping method you choose. The higher priced shipping options from Monoprice (UPS express/expedited international) include brokerage fees, which can be an extortionate percentage of a lower priced item.
It would seem that you got charged duties and taxes on items from the Canadian and Ontario governments, or that the shipping company charged your brokerage to clear the items through customs.

Personally, since i live 40 minutes from the border, I just pay $125 per year for an address in the US and have all my US purchases sent there. Then every couple of months, or more frequently if urgent, I drive down and pick it all up, pay my taxes at the border, and still end up saving a ton on shipping costs and brokerage fees.

Thanks ... I'm still new to this stuff ... and young .... thanks for the info ... the question marks cleared things up for me on this sight .. and widened my eyes.

http://www.thefinalcost.com/

I ended up paying nearly $300 for what should've cost me about $160

I ended up paying nearly $300 for what should've cost me about $160

:mad:

Yeah, my first cross border trip paid for the annual cost of the mail-box 10 times over! If it's not too much inconvenience, you should look into these services. There's now a flat fee per package deal as well called Kinek (https://www.kinek.com/), I think.

Thanks fitbrit ... I will look into these things... although I don't often order stuff from the states... except this time of year... this was all just a christmas present from myself to myself ... that passed onto my girlfriend ... (she's picking up $200 of my tab) one of a few things she got me ... don't know the others yet... She got her IPAD2 early so I get to set this up this weekend !!! yay

p.s. .... stay handy ... as soon as I get to the nitty gritty... either saturday night but more likely sunday... I'll be posting like a mad man trying to get answers quickly ... hoping it goes smoothly though !

Okay I have a really stupid question ... i feel like an idiot here....

1) it's just regular speaker wire that connects these shakers together and to the amp... ? ( I believe yes)

2) when wiring the two shakers together in a series ... the wire that goes from + to - ..... does it matter whether I use the part of my speaker wire that is marked as positive or if I use the negative ? I am assuming the wire is all the same and the jacket is only marked so you can keep track when running distances etc. I would just split(separate) my speaker wire to wire from the dayton amp to the shakers

does that make any sense?

On the bottom of my amp plate there's a red and black wire with funky ends... what are those used for ? (car audio I'm guessing?)

Yes, the wires are all the same, internally.

the sub out from my receiver should that be put into the left or right channel on the amp ... does it make any difference if I use a Y split (fem -> 2 male) to put it in the left and right rca inputs ?

Okay I have a really stupid question ... i feel like an idiot here....

1) it's just regular speaker wire that connects these shakers together and to the amp... ? ( I believe yes)

2) when wiring the two shakers together in a series ... the wire that goes from + to - ..... does it matter whether I use the part of my speaker wire that is marked as positive or if I use the negative ? I am assuming the wire is all the same and the jacket is only marked so you can keep track when running distances etc. I would just split(separate) my speaker wire to wire from the dayton amp to the shakers

does that make any sense?

On the bottom of my amp plate there's a red and black wire with funky ends... what are those used for ? (car audio I'm guessing?)

Regular speaker wire is fine. There is no physical difference in the wire marked positive and negative so, in theory, it doesn't matter how it is wired. In practice, however, it is definitely best to follow the color scheme of the wire and terminals so that you are 100% certain all of the shakers have the same polarity so they are in phase. If any of them are out of phase, they will be moving in the opposite directions and the shaking motion will be cancelled out (each of them will be shaking at the same intensity, but you will feel a lot less shaking if they are out of phase).

the sub out from my receiver should that be put into the left or right channel on the amp ... does it make any difference if I use a Y split (fem -> 2 male) to put it in the left and right rca inputs ?

If the amp has a "mono" input, then you shouldn't need a splitter. Often the amp inputs are marked with something like "left/mono" on one input and "right" on the other, so you would just hook connect it to the left.

Regular speaker wire is fine. There is no physical difference in the wire marked positive and negative so, in theory, it doesn't matter how it is wired. In practice, however, it is definitely best to follow the color scheme of the wire and terminals so that you are 100% certain all of the shakers have the same polarity so they are in phase. If any of them are out of phase, they will be moving in the opposite directions and the shaking motion will be cancelled out (each of them will be shaking at the same intensity, but you will feel a lot less shaking if they are out of phase).



If the amp has a "mono" input, then you shouldn't need a splitter. Often the amp inputs are marked with something like "left/mono" on one input and "right" on the other, so you would just hook connect it to the left.
Thanks pjp.

I checked out the amp (SA240-B) and there is a left and right input and output .... neither input says anything about mono though ((I will check the manual for more info))

I am thinking since it's a mono signal coming from the receiver it shouldn't matter whether I use the left input or the right input .... just so long as I use the corresponding output with the speaker wire.

Order an in-line FMOD from Parts Express. I'd start with a 70 or 50hz low pass filter.

I think I saw them for $26 for a pair.

Easy-peasy.
Where abouts in a typical setup with two shakers would the FMOD go? I ordered the pair, and from what I've read it's best to start with one see how it sounds than plug in another one... I am guessing it would connect to the line running from the reciever to the amp.

No Shake....

Should this work in theory ... just trying to see some shake ...

1.) Sub-out from Receiver preout (RCA)
2.) goes into Y-split female->male,male which goes into AMP input L and R (RCA)
3.) speaker wire out from + and - of right channel "high level in/out (to speakers)
4.) speaker wire connected to + and - of one Aura 50 W pro shaker

notes : I completely bi-passed my subs for now, the "low level output" is RCA connectors but the shakers input is speaker wire .. is this the problem?

I am receiving no signal to the shaker at all ... do I HAVE to wire two in series to see shake ?


Okay so I watched the video on my amp(pre amp) that I bought from parts express and the guy says that the speaker out posts are not powered to send a signal out unless I run speaker wire tofrom my current receiver to the receiver in posts ... I get that .... but he makes it sound like I should be using the BLACK AND RED wire that comes out of the back of the pre amp .... which way is better... ?

Also the + and - wires out the back have a metal tab on the end of each of them that doesn't fit into the aura shakers ... should I attach speaker wire to the tab with electrical tape ... or just snip the tabs off peel back jacket and join speaker wire by braiding that way then cover with electrical tape....?

PLEASE HELP ... my critics are going to be all over me soon ! I'm getting nervous... don't know what's wrong...

No Shake....

Should this work in theory ... just trying to see some shake ...

1.) Sub-out from Receiver preout (RCA)
2.) goes into Y-split female->male,male which goes into AMP input L and R (RCA)
3.) speaker wire out from + and - of right channel "high level in/out (to speakers)
4.) speaker wire connected to + and - of one Aura 50 W pro shaker

notes : I completely bi-passed my subs for now, the "low level output" is RCA connectors but the shakers input is speaker wire .. is this the problem?

I am receiving no signal to the shaker at all ... do I HAVE to wire two in series to see shake ?


Okay so I watched the video on my amp(pre amp) that I bought from parts express and the guy says that the speaker out posts are not powered to send a signal out unless I run speaker wire tofrom my current receiver to the receiver in posts ... I get that .... but he makes it sound like I should be using the BLACK AND RED wire that comes out of the back of the pre amp .... which way is better... ?

Also the + and - wires out the back have a metal tab on the end of each of them that doesn't fit into the aura shakers ... should I attach speaker wire to the tab with electrical tape ... or just snip the tabs off peel back jacket and join speaker wire by braiding that way then cover with electrical tape....?

PLEASE HELP ... my critics are going to be all over me soon ! I'm getting nervous... don't know what's wrong...

You should be using the black and red wire that come out of your subwoofer amp to drive the shakers. The high-level in/out would be for passing through the regular speaker output of your main amplifier so it can pick off the low signal for the sub and filter the output going to your main speakers to relieve them of reproducing the low signals based on how you have the sub crossover set. Since you are using the line-level inputs, you don't need to touch the high-level in/out. For connecting to the Aura Pros, I think they have a lock-down screw / banana plug jacks if I remember correctly. Just clip the leads off and use the screw down to hold the bare wire.

I got it working on my .. own ... but thanks for confirming !!! SUCCESS ... !!! LOVING IT ... mounting later I just attached some speaker wire to the leads ... they had little plastic slip covers to hold it in place.. no need for electrical tape (for testing anyways.. .will tape them up after all is set properly .. thanks for all your help thus far... I think I've got it from here though.. will report back after everything is installed and I'm tweaking..

Thanks to everyone in this forum for all the knowledge and support.. I look forward to helping others in need down the road...

I've learned ALOT about Hz and crossovers etc this past week!

Jake180

I also live in Canada and stop using partsexpress due to the shipping charge.
I order a lot from the states and when ever possible I chose USPost because the brockage fee is a standard $9.00 cdn no matter what the items is worth.

Just so you know about this option, and it is too bad partsexpress no longer offer this option for a few years now.

All the best

Ray

I have a spare Infinity P212 subwoofer Amp because the speaker blow. I want to use this to power three shakers. This Amp is 400W, and have pos and neg output. The shaker is 50W each. Can someone recommend a connection for me? A diagram would be appreciate it.
Thanks in Advance,
LaRatta

Thanks guys for all the support on this thread!

I (with my dads help!) have successfully installed the 2 aura pro's in my couch, and have them wired in series. They run at the same time as my 2 subs which all blend together lovely.

I tried the FMOD .... didn't feel as though I was getting the output from the shakers that I wanted (especially playing battlefied, love the shake caused by my handgun!)... so I currently have two extras they are part # 266-250 at parts express.

I will likely keep one just in case I am watching a movie like saving private ryan. That's probably the best test movie I can find for these shakers considering the first 25 minutes of the movie is like chaos.


I do have one final question ... I did some reading on the tightness of the screws when installing the shakers... apparently if they are too tight it takes away much of the shaking...

should they be "snug", hand tightened, all my strength tightened, or just tightened enough that I cannot move shaker with my hand.

please elaborate on this subject (people with experience..)

thanks,
Jake

I'm about to upgrade my 2 Woon shakers to 1 Clark Synthesis Silver.

The Woon's and Aura's I've had were both ok, but I want something a bit more powerful. They are currently being driven by a Dayton 100w plate amp, which should work fine with the Clark. I've tried the 4 Dayton Pucks, but they were just too weak to drive a couch.

Anyone use the Clarks yet? Any comparison to 2 Auras/Woons? It should blow them away.

a crude diagram of my current setup :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71190887@N07/6507005539/

Jake,

For years I ran my shakers just "snug" so I could still see a tiny gap between the metal portion and the board I mounted to. Never tightened down completely firmly.

Thanks pcrx ... I have a funny feeling mine might be too tight .... at first they were clunking because they were too loose... my dad was mounting.... I think he cranked them pretty tight the second time around... . I will check tonight, need to slip the rug under the legs of the couch to alleviate some of the hardwood shaking in my unit.... :)

Holy shake me outta my seat! "Super 8" movie was my inagural movie for my final tweaked setup of my shakers....the friggin Train Wreck Scene was out of this world! HOLY SHEEETS! I felt like I was standing in the middle of it! Made all the cuts burns and pain in the ass of setting these things up worth it!!! All I can say is WOW! :eek: :eek:

Super 8, I think my couch must have moved about a foot during the train crash.
Took your advice bro ...THANK YOU!!!!

Holy shake me outta my seat! "Super 8" movie was my inagural movie for my final tweaked setup of my shakers....the friggin Train Wreck Scene was out of this world! HOLY SHEEETS! I felt like I was standing in the middle of it! Made all the cuts burns and pain in the ass of setting these things up worth it!!! All I can say is WOW! :eek: :eek:

6 Buttkickers should have moved the foundation of your house. lol

Can't wait to try this with the clark silver.

I have a question for those of you with AMP and technical experience etc...

95% of the time I am watching action movies by myself in a dedicated movie room, the wife and 2 girls have 0 interest.

Will my amp get damaged if I only run 1 channel instead of 2 most of the time?
My front row of shakers is hooked to 1 channel and the back to 1 channel, as I said 95% of the time its just me, I'd like to turn the back row off...what do you guys think? Will the power output be skewed toward 1 channel after continious use of 1 channel?

I have a question for those of you with AMP and technical experience etc...

95% of the time I am watching action movies by myself in a dedicated movie room, the wife and 2 girls have 0 interest.

Will my amp get damaged if I only run 1 channel instead of 2 most of the time?
My front row of shakers is hooked to 1 channel and the back to 1 channel, as I said 95% of the time its just me, I'd like to turn the back row off...what do you guys think? Will the power output be skewed toward 1 channel after continious use of 1 channel?

If it is a 2 channel amp, if you disconnect the other speakers or turn off the second channel, the power wont be changed.

Is it normal for your main receiver volume (not the shakers pre-amp) to control the level of shake ... so the louder the volume the more shake you get.... because somehow I was under the impression that you could have the volume low on a movie and still receive lots of "SHAKE" ....

Can someone please clear this up for me.... wondering if I have done anything wrong in my setup....

Cheers,

Jake

Less shake with lower receiver volume is normal; remember the shakers are connected to the subwoofer output. Lowering master volume reduces sub volume ( as one would desire, usually), so less shake too. This is where a remote controlled amp for your shakers would be most useful.

I have a question concerning running multiple buttkickers off one amp.

I currently have one Buttkicker Advanced unit (BK4-4) powered by one BKA300-4 amp. The BK4 is rated at 4ohms, 75watt min. 400watt max. The amp is rated at 300watts at 4ohms, 150watts at 2ohms.

What I would like to do is add one Buttkicker Mini Concert unit, rated at 2ohms, 50watt min. 250watt max. to the above setup.

Would there be any issues running two transducers with different ohm rating at the same time?

I would assume I'd wire them in series, just concerned about damaging the amp and/or transducers in this configuration.

Any help or suggestions appreciated.

I have a question concerning running multiple buttkickers off one amp.

I currently have one Buttkicker Advanced unit (BK4-4) powered by one BKA300-4 amp. The BK4 is rated at 4ohms, 75watt min. 400watt max. The amp is rated at 300watts at 4ohms, 150watts at 2ohms.

What I would like to do is add one Buttkicker Mini Concert unit, rated at 2ohms, 50watt min. 250watt max. to the above setup.

Would there be any issues running two transducers with different ohm rating at the same time?

I would assume I'd wire them in series, just concerned about damaging the amp and/or transducers in this configuration.

Any help or suggestions appreciated.
The only issue I would probably be concerned about is that mixing a buttkicker mini with a regular size buttkicker would be TUNING them properly...meaning how are you going to get 2 different rated buttklickers to give you proper levels of shake which each is specifically rated/designed for??? Example would be that the Advanced unit would'nt give you the punch anymore because its now powering 2 other minis...or vice versa the minis wouldnt give you the punch because the advanced unit is sucking away too much power...if you visit their website there are helpful resources or do what i did directly call the guitammer (buttkicker) company they are very HELPFUL!

The only issue I would probably be concerned about is that mixing a buttkicker mini with a regular size buttkicker would be TUNING them properly...meaning how are you going to get 2 different rated buttklickers to give you proper levels of shake which each is specifically rated/designed for??? Example would be that the Advanced unit would'nt give you the punch anymore because its now powering 2 other minis...or vice versa the minis wouldnt give you the punch because the advanced unit is sucking away too much power...if you visit their website there are helpful resources or do what i did directly call the guitammer (buttkicker) company they are very HELPFUL!

Thanks for the tips. I'm not too concerned if the mini doesn't shake as much as the larger unit. Not sure how it will work out, I'll just have to try it and find out.

I'll take your advice and call the manufacture first and get their input.

Received my 50hz low pass FMod yesterday. Quite the difference in shaking. Much more appropriate than the 70hz low pass version.

I installed my bass shakers today,4 of them under my couch with the Dayton 240 watt plate amp.I can't believe what I've been missing all this time,it adds so much to the experience.

I didn't know the Clark shaker needed so much room underneath the couch. It literally needs a good 6 inches of height if attached to the bottom of a couch. I don't feel like ripping open 100 staples on the bottom and installing inside of the couch, but I may have to. Otherwise I'm going to have to really bring the couch up, much higher than any rubber isolation feet will do. Any ideas? 2x4's under the handrest sides?

What do you guys usually set the gain knob to? Using a dayton 240w with 1 aurA

To follow up on my above post-

I added the Buttkicker Mini Concert to the BKA300-4 amp with the Buttkicker Advanced unit wired in series.

It does work ok, no over heating issues. But the results aren't what I was hoping for. This amp doesn't have enough power to run this combo to the levels I would like.

I was hoping to avoid buying another amp, but just ordered another BKA300. Hope it doesn't take weeks to receive it.

Did u pay over 350-400 for the amp? If so return it... .get a behringer Epx 4000 plenty of power for all ur kickers ...sell the BK u have...

I'm wondering just how loud I can safely go while using these,Aura pro's specifically.Has anyone ever messed theirs up by pushing them too hard?

Did u pay over 350-400 for the amp? If so return it... .get a behringer Epx 4000 plenty of power for all ur kickers ...sell the BK u have...

I ordered it for 169.00 with shipping. Haven't received a tracking # yet. I have a feeling it's back ordered, like most of the Buttkicker products.

The EPX 4000 looks nice, more money that I wanted to spend. 2000 watts is over kill for what I need.

Guys -

Looking at going Auro Pros for my dedicated HT because, well.. I'm tired of waiting on overpriced buttkickers to come in off of backorder.

My questions are as follows:

I have two rows. 4 seats in front. 3 in back. Looking at wiring up front row first with four shakers. I'm looking at the Dayton S240 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-804) Sub plate Amp.

Questions are:

1) Is this going to provide awesome shake for the 4 seats alone? Will I need another amp if I decide to do the back row?
2) Can someone explain to me how I would wire these shakers to the sub amp with two subs, an SMS-1 Equalizer and receiver in the chain? I'm kind of a tard when it comes to knowing what gets wired to what.
3) I'm building a riser. Does anyone have experience with the best spot to put a plate amp for the shakers/chairs?
4) What have people been doing in terms of mounting their Auras in the Berkline 12003 series recliners?

Thanks!

I picked up 6 bass shaker pros and a Crown XLS1000 amp.

What would be the best way to wire these shakers up to the amp? It is 2 ohm stable, but I don't want to fry the shakers.

Should I run the amp in bridged mode, or should I keep it in stereo mode?

I will be setting the amp's crossover at 50hz.

I sit on a plastic chair while watching my movie. (google image for plastic chair if you wanna know the type of chair that I'm referring to).

I am planning to buy and hookup a Buttkicker Gamer kit to enhance my movie experience. I think the Gamer kit is good enough to shake this light plastic chair...but I'm worried that will it be too much (in terms of force pounding on a plastic).

Any thoughts?

I just can't find a good combo that satisfies me shaker wise. I upgraded to a Buttkicker advance, but the damn thing makes annoying vibration sounds on its chair leg kit. If I could bolt the thing directly to my couch it would be so much nicer, but ripping apart the bottom of the couch isn't an option yet. I removed the Buttkicker from the kit and at the same intensity that it would rattle and sound like crap on the couch kit, it didn't rattle in my hand. It was just a nice strong shake that I wish could work with the kit.

I also tried the Clark Silver, and it doesn't have as much punch as the Buttkicker. I bolted that directly to a joist at the bottom of the couch, but the joist is too narrow. It split some of the wood going in and I think its a bad idea to keep it in. I'm going to run it a few days and play with the amp to see if the shake gets stronger without overpowering it.

Both are were tested on the Buttkicker 300 watt amp. I'll be testing the Dayton 100w amp with the Clark today since that has freq control. I don't like how you cant see the intensity you are running the amp at on the BKA, or how you cant control the cutoff freq.

I have a feeling I'm going to want to sell these off and upgrade to the LFE kit, and eventually install inside the couch. It would be nice if the chair leg mount from that kit handles rough vibrations better, but I don't think it will.

Guys -

Looking at going Auro Pros for my dedicated HT because, well.. I'm tired of waiting on overpriced buttkickers to come in off of backorder.

My questions are as follows:

I have two rows. 4 seats in front. 3 in back. Looking at wiring up front row first with four shakers. I'm looking at the Dayton S240 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-804) Sub plate Amp.

Questions are:

1) Is this going to provide awesome shake for the 4 seats alone? Will I need another amp if I decide to do the back row?
2) Can someone explain to me how I would wire these shakers to the sub amp with two subs, an SMS-1 Equalizer and receiver in the chain? I'm kind of a tard when it comes to knowing what gets wired to what.
3) I'm building a riser. Does anyone have experience with the best spot to put a plate amp for the shakers/chairs?
4) What have people been doing in terms of mounting their Auras in the Berkline 12003 series recliners?

Thanks!

Anyone?

I picked up 6 bass shaker pros and a Crown XLS1000 amp.

What would be the best way to wire these shakers up to the amp? It is 2 ohm stable, but I don't want to fry the shakers.

Should I run the amp in bridged mode, or should I keep it in stereo mode?

I will be setting the amp's crossover at 50hz.

OK I hooked two shakers up in stereo mode and I am now horrified to find that my Onkyo 809 doesn't have enough juice coming out the second subwoofer output to properly drive this Crown XLS1000. Now what? Can I buy a simple preamp to boost the signal going to the Crown?

Right now I have to have the Crown's gain set to FULL to get any sort of vibration out of the shakers that might be possible to feel through my chairs. The green lights on the front of the amp barely light up at all during heavy bass, so obviously they are not getting enough of a signal from the Onkyo. I tried turning my subwoofer output up by about 5 db but it hardly made much difference.

Any ideas?

OK I hooked two shakers up in stereo mode and I am now horrified to find that my Onkyo 809 doesn't have enough juice coming out the second subwoofer output to properly drive this Crown XLS1000. Now what? Can I buy a simple preamp to boost the signal going to the Crown?

Right now I have to have the Crown's gain set to FULL to get any sort of vibration out of the shakers that might be possible to feel through my chairs. The green lights on the front of the amp barely light up at all during heavy bass, so obviously they are not getting enough of a signal from the Onkyo. I tried turning my subwoofer output up by about 5 db but it hardly made much difference.

Any ideas?

Most likely there's nothing wrong with your Onkyo, and there's no need for any "juice" from it to provide a signal to your Crown. Two options:
1) Buy a splitter and split the signal from your 'first' sub output so that it feeds both the sub and the Crown amp.

2) Go into your Onkyo's setup and actually specify that you have two subs, so that the second output is activated, and then play with its gain so that a decent signal is actually being passed through to the Crown.

Most likely there's nothing wrong with your Onkyo, and there's no need for any "juice" from it to provide a signal to your Crown. Two options:
1) Buy a splitter and split the signal from your 'first' sub output so that it feeds both the sub and the Crown amp.

2) Go into your Onkyo's setup and actually specify that you have two subs, so that the second output is activated, and then play with its gain so that a decent signal is actually being passed through to the Crown.

I've been through the setup menus and I can't find anywhere that you can specify you have 2 subwoofers. Did I miss it somewhere?

I will give the splitter a try though, although it seems funny to have to do that when there are two subwoofer outputs sitting there already.

Go through the area where you can set the gains adjust the test tone volume. I have several x007 models of the Onkyos, and I suspect no that much has changed in setting them up in the past 2 years. There really is no need to use a splitter. Perhaps in the lower models there's just a splitter internally? Is your sub's gain level set very high? It could be that your sub output from the Onkyo is set very low. This happened to me. The difference between -6 db and 0 db is huge on the low frequencies.

I've been through there and there is no option for two subwoofers.

I just tried splitting the signal off just one output and it made no difference.

I found this thread where someone else experience voltage problems with the Crown amp and had to use a preamp to adjust the gain.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1295375.html

The Hsu bass optimizer sounds like it would be perfect but they don't seem to ship to Canada.

My sub level was set around 0 db and I raised it to +5, and while that helped it is not enough. The shakers aren't getting enough power.

I've been through there and there is no option for two subwoofers.

I just tried splitting the signal off just one output and it made no difference.

I found this thread where someone else experience voltage problems with the Crown amp and had to use a preamp to adjust the gain.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1295375.html

The Hsu bass optimizer sounds like it would be perfect but they don't seem to ship to Canada.

My sub level was set around 0 db and I raised it to +5, and while that helped it is not enough. The shakers aren't getting enough power.

Apologies. I recall someone else having this issue in this thread, and needing a preamp too. It depends on the sort of amp you have, I believe.

I've been through there and there is no option for two subwoofers.

I just tried splitting the signal off just one output and it made no difference.

I found this thread where someone else experience voltage problems with the Crown amp and had to use a preamp to adjust the gain.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1295375.html

The Hsu bass optimizer sounds like it would be perfect but they don't seem to ship to Canada.

My sub level was set around 0 db and I raised it to +5, and while that helped it is not enough. The shakers aren't getting enough power.
You definately need a pre amp for the crowns/behringers AMPS...I used the "ART DJ Pre II Phono Preamp" got it from Amazon for like ~$40. someone here recommended it to me and it worked perfect!

You definately need a pre amp for the crowns/behringers AMPS...I used the "ART DJ Pre II Phono Preamp" got it from Amazon for like ~$40. someone here recommended it to me and it worked perfect!

Excellent! Thanks. And for anyone else that was wondering it does look like Hsu will ship to Canada, you just need to email them first. I think I will go with your phono preamp instead though since it is cheaper.

Excellent! Thanks. And for anyone else that was wondering it does look like Hsu will ship to Canada, you just need to email them first. I think I will go with your phono preamp instead though since it is cheaper.
No problem glad I could help! I went through the exact same issues had everything hooked up and connected to the AMP and nothing working after spending a boat load of loot. Luckily I am a member here and people are so helpful...glad I was able to pass along info which was passed along to me!!!! :-)

Excellent! Thanks. And for anyone else that was wondering it does look like Hsu will ship to Canada, you just need to email them first. I think I will go with your phono preamp instead though since it is cheaper.

Where in Canada? I'm in Montreal, and if you are too, I'll be picking up stuff I've had shipped to my address in Champlain, NY, on my way back from Barbados next week. I'd be happy to pick up anything you want if you're local to me and want to use my address to save some $$$ on shipping.

Where in Canada? I'm in Montreal, and if you are too, I'll be picking up stuff I've had shipped to my address in Champlain, NY, on my way back from Barbados next week. I'd be happy to pick up anything you want if you're local to me and want to use my address to save some $$$ on shipping.

Thanks for the offer. I'm in Ontario near London so probably a bit too far anyway. I ended up finding a site that sells the preamp dukedallas mentioned so I don't need the Hsu anymore. Thanks again.

Question for those of you using Behringer or other amps for your Buttkickers. The BK amps all have low pass adjustments to set the max frequency going to your Buttkickers. The normal sub out on a receiver typically passes everything from 120 Hz and down while many adjust the BK amps to only send 80 Hz and below. Are those using non BK amps doing anything to limit the max frequency sent to the Buttkickers or are you finding the Sub out to work fine. I understand that typically you need to add a preamp to get the level up for amps like Crown and Behringer. My BK amp died and am looking to replace it with a Behringer EP2000 or EP4000. Both are in the $300 range which is about the same as a new BK Amp.

Question for those of you using Behringer or other amps for your Buttkickers. The BK amps all have low pass adjustments to set the max frequency going to your Buttkickers. The normal sub out on a receiver typically passes everything from 120 Hz and down while many adjust the BK amps to only send 80 Hz and below. Are those using non BK amps doing anything to limit the max frequency sent to the Buttkickers or are you finding the Sub out to work fine. I understand that typically you need to add a preamp to get the level up for amps like Crown and Behringer. My BK amp died and am looking to replace it with a Behringer EP2000 or EP4000. Both are in the $300 range which is about the same as a new BK Amp.
Mine works fine I am using a behringer EPX4000...the pre amp i use has 2 filters on it and my receiver has sub woofer filters too, I just posted about the pre amp the other day. I suggest the EPX 4000 because it has the RCA inputs, the older version EP4000 has some other inputs which wont be compatible with your home receiver unless you get special wires.

DukeDallas,
Thanks for the input on the EPX4000. If I don't get my BK1000 fixed (so far I have replaced numerous Lytics and a Bridge rectifier) I will be picking up one of the Behringers. I noticed that the preamp that you recommend is a phono preamp. I couldn't tell for sure but it looks like it only has an input for phono which means it applies the phono RIAA equalization curve to your subwoofer signal. That does not sound like a good idea as that is not a flat response like one would desire. A microphone preamp might be more appropriate.

Anyone have an extra 50hz FMOD they're not using? I'd like to try one with my shakers and would prefer to save a few bucks over ordering 2 from PE. PM me if you're interested.

Question for those of you using Behringer or other amps for your Buttkickers. The BK amps all have low pass adjustments to set the max frequency going to your Buttkickers. The normal sub out on a receiver typically passes everything from 120 Hz and down while many adjust the BK amps to only send 80 Hz and below. Are those using non BK amps doing anything to limit the max frequency sent to the Buttkickers or are you finding the Sub out to work fine. I understand that typically you need to add a preamp to get the level up for amps like Crown and Behringer. My BK amp died and am looking to replace it with a Behringer EP2000 or EP4000. Both are in the $300 range which is about the same as a new BK Amp.

The Crown XLS series has low pass filters you can set as low as 50 hz.

I sit on a plastic chair while watching my movie. (google image for plastic chair if you wanna know the type of chair that I'm referring to).

I am planning to buy and hookup a Buttkicker Gamer kit to enhance my movie experience. I think the Gamer kit is good enough to shake this light plastic chair...but I'm worried that will it be too much (in terms of force pounding on a plastic).

Any thoughts?

My guess is that it would be too much for a plastic chair, but maybe it would work fine if you keep the gain low. I used two Dayton Pucks driven by a T-amp in a driving seat (fiberglass chair bolted to a metal frame) and it works quite well.

I posted a picture of that setup in post 2125.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21314491#post21314491

Guys,

Sorry for the urgent question, but I'm getting construction underway tomorrow on my kickers and riser.

I have an oddball situation, and need guidance.

I have a BKA-1000W amp.
1 Buttkicker Advance
3 Aura Pro shakers

Two rows. 4 chairs up front. 3 in the back.

What are your reccomendations on making use of the gear, and is it ok to put the Aura and the advance both on the 1000W amp. I don't know how much different the two shakers are rated. Thx

Guys,

Sorry for the urgent question, but I'm getting construction underway tomorrow on my kickers and riser.

I have an oddball situation, and need guidance.

I have a BKA-1000W amp.
1 Buttkicker Advance
3 Aura Pro shakers

Two rows. 4 chairs up front. 3 in the back.

What are your reccomendations on making use of the gear, and is it ok to put the Aura and the advance both on the 1000W amp. I don't know how much different the two shakers are rated. Thx


The monitoring of this section is terrible, LOL.

Can anyone provide any insight into some of my questions above? Construction is beginning today on the riser.

Guys,

Sorry for the urgent question, but I'm getting construction underway tomorrow on my kickers and riser.

I have an oddball situation, and need guidance.

I have a BKA-1000W amp.
1 Buttkicker Advance
3 Aura Pro shakers

Two rows. 4 chairs up front. 3 in the back.

What are your reccomendations on making use of the gear, and is it ok to put the Aura and the advance both on the 1000W amp. I don't know how much different the two shakers are rated. Thx

I don't have any experience with the Buttkicker amp or shakers, but electrically you should be able to hook them all up to one amp. The Aura Pros are 4 ohm, if you know the impedance of the Buttkicker Advance and the operating range of the amp, then it's easy to figure out how to hook them up using a combination of series and parallel most likely.

Once hooked up, you may get very different shaking levels from the Aura Pro's versus the Buttkicker just due to different sensitivities. Also, it's not clear how you can distribute 4 shakers across 7 chairs, normally you would use one shaker per chair. Finally, the Aura Pros are rated for 50w, so theoretically you could overload them with that amp, but it probably won't happen unless you really crank up the level.

I don't have any experience with the Buttkicker amp or shakers, but electrically you should be able to hook them all up to one amp. The Aura Pros are 4 ohm, if you know the impedance of the Buttkicker Advance and the operating range of the amp, then it's easy to figure out how to hook them up using a combination of series and parallel most likely.

Once hooked up, you may get very different shaking levels from the Aura Pro's versus the Buttkicker just due to different sensitivities. Also, it's not clear how you can distribute 4 shakers across 7 chairs, normally you would use one shaker per chair. Finally, the Aura Pros are rated for 50w, so theoretically you could overload them with that amp, but it probably won't happen unless you really crank up the level.

PJP -

You are right. Wiring for 7 shakers is difficult to do. I think it will be much easier if I just leave one seat without a shaker and just wire for 6.

Given that scenario, what's the smartest way to wire 4 in front, 2 in back?

Yah, keeping the level at a reasonable level as to not overload the Aura Pros seems important. But doesn't hurt to try it out and see how it works is what I say...

hello,

i have 5 shakers....what is the best way to wire these (series or series parallel). any help would be great!

Hi all,

I'm building a riser that is comprised of a 8' X 7' X 12" section bolted to a 5' X 7' X 12" section to form a 13' X 7' X 12" platform. I've ordered an Earthquake Q10B transducer, a Behringer EP4000 amp, and 4 buttkicker rubber isolator feet (220lb version) to put on the corners of the short sides of the platform.

I'm planning on mounting the Q10B inside the riser on the back 2" X 12", attached to the 8' section near where it attaches to the 5' section - near the center of the long side of the platform. I'm not sure what effect having the two separate sections bolted together will have on the function of the Q10B. I know I need to have them bolted together well so they don't shake apart! :D

Any advice or helpful hints on this project would be extremely well received.

This is my first theater, first riser, first shaker. You get the idea. :)

I bought some rubber isolation feet for my couch but when I took a close look at the feet that are on the couch I noticed they are made of plastic....

So does this lessen the effectiveness of the rubber feet? Also I am a little worried about screwing them in and how well they will stay in place.

Here is an image of the shakers location, please comment on what you think of the locations...I've actually upgraded the one on the right to a clark synthesis t209 since taking this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/Ltd5fl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Ltd5f)

I had to place the shaker here, but I could maybe add a piece of wood as a sort of cross beam...


http://i.imgur.com/dVUjPl.jpg (http://imgur.com/dVUjP)

Here is where I put the new clark synthesis. It was immediately better as the heatsink of the Aura was preventing the shaker from making good contact...Can't see it too clearly in the pic, but there are two raised pieces of wood where the shaker is mounted.

http://i.imgur.com/gcwCKl.jpg (http://imgur.com/gcwCK)

From your photos I think your sofa is L-sectional.

The bass shaker on the single one I believe will give you a good vibration. I am not sure about the position of the bass shakers on the L-type sofa, mainly because they don't look like they are able to give a balance distributed vibration.

I used a plywood across the solid frame of the sofa. I used two bass shakers on a single 3-4 seater Sofa, they are 8 ohms together in series and they worked great. Hope this helps.

Hi,

Here is a video link I have made, it isn't so detailed but hope it give you an idea of how I have installed my bass shakers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD0YHC4AUZs


Here is an image of the shakers location, please comment on what you think of the locations...I've actually upgraded the one on the right to a clark synthesis t209 since taking this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/Ltd5fl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Ltd5f)

I had to place the shaker here, but I could maybe add a piece of wood as a sort of cross beam...


http://i.imgur.com/dVUjPl.jpg (http://imgur.com/dVUjP)

Here is where I put the new clark synthesis. It was immediately better as the heatsink of the Aura was preventing the shaker from making good contact...Can't see it too clearly in the pic, but there are two raised pieces of wood where the shaker is mounted.

http://i.imgur.com/gcwCKl.jpg (http://imgur.com/gcwCK)

A normal amplifier (not the high end ones) will have 8 Ohms of impedance.

1 bass shaker is 4 Ohms, so two in series will be 8 Ohms. Aura pro bass shakers have 50 W, so 2 in series will be 100 Watts.

Depending on your need maybe you only need 4 bass shakers. Basically 2 in series coming from your dedicated amplifier output.

If you really need to use the 5th one, I suggest get another pair so that the impedance is balanced. Less connection head ache and less chance to fry your amplifier.

hello,

i have 5 shakers....what is the best way to wire these (series or series parallel). any help would be great!

From your photos I think your sofa is L-sectional.

The bass shaker on the single one I believe will give you a good vibration. I am not sure about the position of the bass shakers on the L-type sofa, mainly because they don't look like they are able to give a balance distributed vibration.

I used a plywood across the solid frame of the sofa. I used two bass shakers on a single 3-4 seater Sofa, they are 8 ohms together in series and they worked great. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestions and the video is great.

I am worried a bit about putting any wood underneath the couch because of it possibly touching those metal wires on the bottom of a couch when sitting. I can see your couch has the same metal wires, have you ever noticed this at all? My couch sits pretty low to the ground, so the space is somewhat limited.

I think it would actually be somewhat easy for me to add a piece of wood on the L part of the couch as there is oddly enough more space underneath than the regular part of the couch, so I probably will make something similar as to what you made in your video.

Also I have one of the Poang's from Ikea. Great chair. My couch is actually from Ikea, an L-shaped Kivik sectional.

We have an "L" shaped sofa as well. Here is how I have my shakers mounted. More than enough shake, even at low "volume" on my secondary receiver.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c148/pcrx/IMG_1708.jpg

Thanks pcrx,

Do you ever notice the couch bottoming out on the wood pieces you added when you sit down?

I recently bought some clark synthesis transducers, which hang and maybe are a bit bigger...but I like what you did here.

Also is that an Ikea couch as well? Looks very similar to the bottom of mine. Maybe the Karlstad?

Quick question.. I already have 2 Buttkicker LFEs on the BKA-1000 amp and was wondering if I can add Aura pros to them or will it not be a good idea because they are only rated at 50 watts? How many will I need to balance it out?

I started this thread for reference... 2 Buttkicker lfe's Not Enough

Since lurking around in these subwoofer forums I've wanted to add another dimension to my home theater experience so as I've been reading the Shaker Sticky thread I'd figure I would pull the trigger on some bass shakers to install in my theater seats. Well my theater seats is broken down in sections and is not one solid piece so I figured the best way to do it would be to build a platform for my theater seats to sit on then I would put rubber isolators between the platform and carpet floor.

I ran across a good deal on 2 used Buttkicker lfe's with the 1000 watt Buttkicker amp and wired them in parallel as recommended. I originally was just going to build the platform to JUST be big enough to place the seats on but once I got going it kept getting bigger and eventually ended up to a beautifull Mohagany stained clear coated 12 ft x 7 ft platform. I used 3/4" cabinet grade plywood for the top and framed it with 2x4s and it must weigh at least 400lbs or so.. I'm just guessing but it's heavy.

So really I don't think 2 lfe's are enough to shake the weight of:
1. ~400 lb platform
2. ~200 lb theater seats
3. ~(200 to 700lb) people depending on how many watching at a time (seats 4 total)

It produces a nice rumble but nothing like the youtue vids I've been seeing as well as people on the forum have been talking about. I'm just not completely satisfied with the results from all the work I've put into this project so I'm wondering if there's too much weight for those poor things to handle or what?

I don't want to shell out more money for 2 more (kind of stretched my budget getting 2 in the first place) so I was wondering if I can run some Aura shakers inside the seats and keep the 2 Buttkickers on the platform or add Aura shakers to the platform or what?

I know I can run up to 4 lfe's on the Buttkickier amp but can I run Aura pros with lfe's on the same amp or is that not a good thing to do?

I have just installed some Aura AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shakers under my couch.... When i sit down the weight causes the cushion to press against the Bass Shakers..... My question is does there need to be room between the Bass Shakers and the couch cushion ? Will having some space in between give me better performance ? Also will a 100 watt amp http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S.../dp/B0002KRAP6 be enough to handle 4 Bass Shakers.....thanks

I have just installed some Aura AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shakers under my couch.... When i sit down the weight causes the cushion to press against the Bass Shakers..... My question is does there need to be room between the Bass Shakers and the couch cushion ? Will having some space in between give me better performance ? Also will a 100 watt amp http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S.../dp/B0002KRAP6 be enough to handle 4 Bass Shakers.....thanks

I'm not too familiar with the Auras but if I'm not mistaken there's something that shakes internally inside the shaker so if it's bolted/screwed directly to the couch I don't think the whole unit needs room to shake. You just need enough clearance to mount it.

Hello everyone. I just want to make sure my understanding with wiring four 4ohm shakers is correct when wanting a single 4ohm lead to my amp?

I did a quick mockup of how I installed my shakers. Does everything look fine here?

Thanks for any input :)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4314/bassshakerwiring.png

Hello everyone. I just want to make sure my understanding with wiring four 4ohm shakers is correct when wanting a single 4ohm lead to my amp?

I did a quick mockup of how I installed my shakers. Does everything look fine here?

Thanks for any input :)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4314/bassshakerwiring.png

I'm curious why you are using one channel on the amp? Is it mono?

What you drew up looks correct, I can't say for certain...Maybe someone else will chime in.

Hello everyone. I just want to make sure my understanding with wiring four 4ohm shakers is correct when wanting a single 4ohm lead to my amp?

I did a quick mockup of how I installed my shakers. Does everything look fine here?

Thanks for any input :)



It's fine!

Hello everyone. I just want to make sure my understanding with wiring four 4ohm shakers is correct when wanting a single 4ohm lead to my amp?

I did a quick mockup of how I installed my shakers. Does everything look fine here?

Thanks for any input :)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4314/bassshakerwiring.png

It's fine!

So Fitbrit (or anyone else) I am doing installing 4 shakers tommorow. Are you saying if you were installing this is the exact way you would do it? I am also going to use DAYTON AUDIO SA240. If not how would you do it? Thanx in advance....

So Fitbrit (or anyone else) I am doing installing 4 shakers tommorow. Are you saying if you were installing this is the exact way you would do it? I am also going to use DAYTON AUDIO SA240. If not how would you do it? Thanx in advance....

Your wiring is fine. Exactly where you branch off the cable for the parallel connections is up to you. As for the amp, it should work fine but I don't have experience with it. Once the wiring is in place you can always upgrade to a better amp later if necessary. My hunch is that the Dayton will be ok. Do you have the Auras, or Aura pros?

Your wiring is fine. Exactly where you branch off the cable for the parallel connections is up to you. As for the amp, it should work fine but I don't have experience with it. Once the wiring is in place you can always upgrade to a better amp later if necessary. My hunch is that the Dayton will be ok. Do you have the Auras, or Aura pros?

Aura pros... Thanx

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4314/bassshakerwiring.png

So I would put 2 wires in the same terminal to parallel them?

Could my old Samsung HTIB receiver be used to power a clark silver ? I plan on eventually wiring maybe 2 more later down the road and was wondering what sort of power would I need to power the 3 clarks? Also was reading through this thread and theres a bunch of diagrams. Can't tell which one is the "best/proper" way to wire em. I plan on using those 50hz fmod plugs from pe to get rumble only when needed. Or should i go lower? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

-Kevin

WOW!!!!!! They are installed and they are incredible! When my wife 1st tried them she said she didn't like it.(during american idol) But them I put a movie on and made some adjustments. There was a gunshot, and we both jumped...lol we were watching Zorro and when the mine exploded I thought the house was exploding. Also during the boat invasion scene in Robin Hood I was almost holding onto my seat thinking I was going to fall overboard. My wife said whew... this is fun... She even posted on Facebook how cool it was... If you don't have them GET SOME! WOW!

This is an easier to follow diagram.