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windham9 09-22-10, 11:08 AM Hello,
after having experienced transmitter difficulties, KSLA back since last week end with a 100% signal. Can you nice fellows provide a quick report when you get a chance, specifically OTA reception?
I appreciate very much your time and input.
Thank you.
Blazing into Center, TX at 90% right now during Y&R. Much better.
just in time for premiere week!
What about weather insertion into HD?
ksla-Eng 09-23-10, 02:00 PM Blazing into Center, TX at 90% right now during Y&R. Much better.
just in time for premiere week!
What about weather insertion into HD?
HD Bug is coming real soon, Windham 9, equipment is on hand, you probably noticed our fancy new weather graphic look.
TheAlbumMan 09-24-10, 04:07 AM Hello,
after having experienced transmitter difficulties, KSLA back since last week end with a 100% signal. Can you nice fellows provide a quick report when you get a chance, specifically OTA reception?
I appreciate very much your time and input.
Thank you.
I am local, strictly OTA, and occasionally notice the signal drop out completely. It has been doing this occasionally and for quite a while so I suspected you were having transmitter trouble as this only happens on KSLA. When it does, I can check the signal strength and watch the indicator drop down to nothing then jump back up instantly.
Glad to hear the new bug equipment is coming soon. The new graphics do look nice too! One day I might count the number of times "KSLA Stormtracker 12" is mentioned during the three minute segment. :)
windham9 09-24-10, 11:25 AM HD Bug is coming real soon, Windham 9, equipment is on hand, you probably noticed our fancy new weather graphic look.
I also saw a scrolling text inserting into HD, glad this is happening!
CBS will have the Cowboys Oct 10 & 31st, Saints are on different time/networks , so no conflict/decision for you guys!
windham9 09-24-10, 11:29 AM KMSS has elected to show the Saints instead of the Cowboys this Sunday.
KFXK will have the Cowboys for those that can get 51.
I will be at the game :)
96corvette 09-25-10, 05:52 PM KMSS has elected to show the Saints instead of the Cowboys this Sunday.
KFXK will have the Cowboys for those that can get 51.
I will be at the game :)
good to see a local channel support the people the state they are in :)
haley-SEA 09-30-10, 05:28 PM Living in the northern end of Southeastern Arkansas, the only stations from the Monroe/El Dorado (AR) market I can get here 24/7 is KTVE and KETZ. KTVE replaced their stretchovision radar feed during the summer with a stretchovision feed of KARD Monroe.
Although having another source OTA for FOX network programming for those unable to get KLRT (Little Rock) or WABG -2 subchannel (Greenwood MS) is good, the way that KTVE is implementing this is a travesty. At least KTVE could either show SDTV in 4x3 OAR (center cut) or widescreen 16x9 OAR. This stretching is pitful and made worse with FOX's use of letterbox-flagging for SDTV 4x3 viewers during NFL games.
At least some converter boxes/tuners will fix this problem that never should have been created (stretchovision) but many won't. I watched the final minutes of the Falcons@Saints game OTA via KTVE "10-2" and had to put the picture in squeeze-mode to correct the aspect ratio.
So you viewers in the East Texas-NW LA able to get *both* KMSS and KFXK be thankful you can get HD for both the Saints and Cowboys---things could be worse.
DJ-phYre 10-01-10, 02:51 PM What does Dish have to install for me to get the HD locals? I called and spoke with a CSR, but she called it an antenna. I already have a DB2 installed in the attic, but I am tired of it dropping.
Is it a new Dish? Is it an extra piece for my existing Dish? I hope it is not a OTA antenna (which I specifically asked, and she said it was not)
dbriana 10-01-10, 04:10 PM Apparently I was the first one to notify them of the problem. It would be helpful if others here did the same thing and maybe something will happen.
Its still happening with the audio popping on KTAL. Tried to send email but said undelivreable. Maybe they took it down or others can try.
ksouthern@ktalnews.tv
windham9 10-02-10, 09:26 AM Living in the northern end of Southeastern Arkansas, the only stations from the Monroe/El Dorado (AR) market I can get here 24/7 is KTVE and KETZ.
So you viewers in the East Texas-NW LA able to get *both* KMSS and KFXK be thankful you can get HD for both the Saints and Cowboys---things could be worse.
Very thankful here, I can get 2 each of all 4 majors OTA. Thats gotta be very rare indeed.
SHergenrader 10-04-10, 10:18 AM What does Dish have to install for me to get the HD locals? I called and spoke with a CSR, but she called it an antenna. I already have a DB2 installed in the attic, but I am tired of it dropping.
Is it a new Dish? Is it an extra piece for my existing Dish? I hope it is not a OTA antenna (which I specifically asked, and she said it was not)
Where do you live? I don't have Dish but from what I understand if you live in the Monroe market then you will need a second dish installed to get your HD locals.
TheAlbumMan 10-05-10, 09:29 AM Its still happening with the audio popping on KTAL. Tried to send email but said undelivreable. Maybe they took it down or others can try.
ksouthern@ktalnews.tv
Yep, that address bounced for me too but I also included the GM along with the person that I have been trading emails with and got another reply indicating that the tech (in quote above) was no longer working there. I politely suggested that they correct the website but they may not know how to do that either. :confused:
Anyway, I watched them briefly last night (10/4) and it seems like the audio pops and dropouts have been fixed. Again, I did not watch for very long so maybe someone else can confirm this.
i49mobile 10-09-10, 08:12 PM I have not seen seen the answer,but my money is on ktbs ? Does anyone know the answer?
SHergenrader 10-10-10, 09:36 PM I have not seen seen the answer,but my money is on ktbs ? Does anyone know the answer?
Answer to what?
SHergenrader 10-11-10, 08:12 AM Ah, I didn't see your question in the subject line. Are they both supposed to start broadcasting their news in HD? I haven't heard anything but I don't watch the news though. But if I had to guess I would say KTBS.
TheAlbumMan 10-11-10, 09:20 AM Ah, I didn't see your question in the subject line. Are they both supposed to start broadcasting their news in HD? I haven't heard anything but I don't watch the news though. But if I had to guess I would say KTBS.
According to KTBS's promo, it says October 25th. Then I saw a promo for KSLA but they only said "coming this month". Don't look for 6 to upgrade any time soon. They're still figuring out the "pop" in the audio. To their benefit, I did get a reply email last week and here is a clip: "After about a month of searching, I think we have it fixed. We reseated a board in one of our digital transports and I did not hear anything yesterday. We will monitor to see if it returns."
FOX44CE 10-12-10, 10:41 AM I have not seen seen the answer,but my money is on ktbs ? Does anyone know the answer?
Don't know about ktbs or ksla but KMSS launched HD News @ 9 already.
armchairGM 10-12-10, 07:38 PM KNOE announced early last week during the news that they would be in their brand new studios in about 2 weeks. They said on the air the new digs would be very nice and viewers would be very impressed. The weather man added that the new studios would include a new weather center.
KNOE added Jeopardy and Wheel Of Fortune HD in August and more recently have added Dr Phil HD and weekend CSI shows in HD (Numbers, Criminal Minds, The Closer).
KAQY has added Everybody Loves Raymond and 2&1/2 Men in HD.
For about a year KNOE and KAQY have had some HD spots.
KAQY has a 3 minute HD segment weekday mornings @ 7:25ish during the local GMA break from North Monroe First Baptist.
Hoak's Alexandria station KALB has added a lot more HD shows including Extra, Access Hollywood, Ellen, 700 Club, & weekend CSI shows including The Unit, Numbers, Criminal Minds.
WNTZ has also added much new non network HD programming including The Office, 2&1/2 Men, Nancy Grace and they aired 3 Houston Texans Pre Season games in HD.
I did see the KTBS news on CW21 KPXJ early this morning, I wasn't sure if that was HD or widescreen SD.
windham9 10-12-10, 07:48 PM Don't know about ktbs or ksla but KMSS launched HD News @ 9 already.
KMSS has also been really good lately. Overall OTA "issues" are at an all time low for the HDTV era. Local stations have fixed lots of stuff. Free OTA HD is the best, an antenna doesn't come with a monthly bill.
TheAlbumMan 10-12-10, 08:39 PM Don't know about ktbs or ksla but KMSS launched HD News @ 9 already.
Yeah, but as you know, the stuff is canned and comes from Baton Rouge.
armchairGM 10-12-10, 08:56 PM good to see a local channel support the people the state they are in :)
I agree. It would have been nice if there had been one TV station in Monroe, Alexandria, Lafayette or Lake Charles that aired Saints Preseason football.
KARD Monroe is a Dallas Cowboys preseason affiliate and they also air a Cowboys post game show.
WNTZ aired 3 Houston Texans Preseason games in HD, one of those was against the Saints. I just wish they could have signed up with the Saints.
TheAlbumMan 10-12-10, 08:56 PM KMSS has also been really good lately. Overall OTA "issues" are at an all time low for the HDTV era. Local stations have fixed lots of stuff. Free OTA HD is the best, an antenna doesn't come with a monthly bill.
I agree about having an antenna. Did anyone in S'port catch several stations from Jackson, MS this morning? I have an attic mounted DB2 pointed in the opposite direction (towards Longview) and they were very solid. Attached is just one of the channels.
FOX44CE 10-13-10, 02:32 PM Yeah, but as you know, the stuff is canned and comes from Baton Rouge.
Actually the KMSS HD News @ 9 is live.
Local stories are shot and edited by local reporters in Shreveport.
KMSS News @ 9 hasn't been produced in Baton Rouge for over a year.
haley-SEA 10-16-10, 06:57 AM This morning, KTBS is making the trip NE to SE Arkansas this morning. The screenshots are SDTV (via a capture card/Zenith converter) but the hamshack TV has an internal tuner which confirms the KTBS HD newscasts. Congrats to the KTBS folks for raising the bar in the SHV market.
96corvette 10-16-10, 09:25 AM KSLA went HD on their news, I am not impressed at all, the video is bland, no detail IMHO does not even look like HD more like stretch SD (1080i)? to bad KSLA my friends have expressed the same thing
windham9 10-16-10, 12:37 PM I agree about having an antenna. Did anyone in S'port catch several stations from Jackson, MS this morning? I have an attic mounted DB2 pointed in the opposite direction (towards Longview) and they were very solid. Attached is just one of the channels.
If I turn my big antenna ENE - ESE at night I often get the Monroe/Eldorado/alexandria locals, with tropo the Miss/Alabama can be solid at times. East I have no trees at all.
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html
i49mobile 10-16-10, 04:05 PM Has anyone else noticed that ksla and video/audio sync is really bad with their new Local HD that started the other night. They still have sync issues with their CBS feeds. ktbs,ksla, and kmss are on the money with their sync. Steve
TheAlbumMan 10-17-10, 09:13 AM KSLA went HD on their news, I am not impressed at all, the video is bland, no detail IMHO does not even look like HD more like stretch SD (1080i)? to bad KSLA my friends have expressed the same thing
Same here. The new graphics package is very nice but the studio cameras need work. I think they need to work on the lighting as the outdoor shots really do look great (ie Rick Rowe's segments). Before the "switch", the anchors looked much better. Have you also noticed a slight improvement in audio? I would imagine they have a new audio board too.
I am about to email the GM but maybe someone here might know when will they go 1080i? It seems a waste to put all this effort in and still be 720p. :confused:
I just realized you are referring to KSLA, not KTBS. My reply is regarding KTBS as I did not know 12 made the switch already. With that in mind, does anyone feel the same about 3 as I do?
i49mobile 10-17-10, 12:43 PM Same here. The new graphics package is very nice but the studio cameras need work. I think they need to work on the lighting as the outdoor shots really do look great (ie Rick Rowe's segments). Before the "switch", the anchors looked much better. Have you also noticed a slight improvement in audio? I would imagine they have a new audio board too.
I am about to email the GM but maybe someone here might know when will they go 1080i? It seems a waste to put all this effort in and still be 720p. :confused:
I just realized you are referring to KSLA, not KTBS. My reply is regarding KTBS as I did not know 12 made the switch already. With that in mind, does anyone feel the same about 3 as I do?
AlbumMan. I agree with your comments on KTBS in studio HD it does not look as good as their field video. I sent an email to George Sirven their GM on Friday saying this,but no response. steve
ETpilot 10-17-10, 05:04 PM Hey all, thought I'd post here and see if anyone has suggestions.
I live SW of Carthage, TX in a very fringe area and my main TV market is Shreveport. After the digital change, my old antenna was not very good. I found plans for a homemade antenna and gave it a try. I have good results with it. I get the Shreveport stations and a couple out of Tyler now plus 51-1 which is Longview, I believe. Sometimes conditions go sour and I have a couple of stations drop out. My main problem station is 6-1 NBC. The station antenna is 64 miles away and I can receive it only if I connect my TV directly to my antenna. If I send it thru any of the boxes I have connected the signal is lost.
Is there a good amplifier that can boost the signal? That may help. My antenna is not directional. I am thinking of adding a reflector to make it more directional and maybe boost the signals from Shreveport. That may cause me to loose the Tyler stations.
I had planned to buy a new antenna but this one works pretty good and I am just trying to work with it and improve reception.
This weekend I completely lost 6-1. So I will not be able to watch tonights football game unless I can get it from Tyler.
Any ideas? Thanks.
96corvette 10-17-10, 07:28 PM Same here. The new graphics package is very nice but the studio cameras need work. I think they need to work on the lighting as the outdoor shots really do look great (ie Rick Rowe's segments). Before the "switch", the anchors looked much better. Have you also noticed a slight improvement in audio? I would imagine they have a new audio board too.
I am about to email the GM but maybe someone here might know when will they go 1080i? It seems a waste to put all this effort in and still be 720p. :confused:
I just realized you are referring to KSLA, not KTBS. My reply is regarding KTBS as I did not know 12 made the switch already. With that in mind, does anyone feel the same about 3 as I do?
Glad I was not the only one here that thought the same, I thought my old eyes were going bad, BTW I am on Dish, some say that DTV is better :confused: KSLA=1080i KTBS= 720p both do not look like TRUE HD very bland video except out side shots
i49mobile 10-17-10, 09:12 PM Hey all, thought I'd post here and see if anyone has suggestions.
I live SW of Carthage, TX in a very fringe area and my main TV market is Shreveport. After the digital change, my old antenna was not very good. I found plans for a homemade antenna and gave it a try. I have good results with it. I get the Shreveport stations and a couple out of Tyler now plus 51-1 which is Longview, I believe. Sometimes conditions go sour and I have a couple of stations drop out. My main problem station is 6-1 NBC. The station antenna is 64 miles away and I can receive it only if I connect my TV directly to my antenna. If I send it thru any of the boxes I have connected the signal is lost.
Is there a good amplifier that can boost the signal? That may help. My antenna is not directional. I am thinking of adding a reflector to make it more directional and maybe boost the signals from Shreveport. That may cause me to loose the Tyler stations.
I had planned to buy a new antenna but this one works pretty good and I am just trying to work with it and improve reception.
This weekend I completely lost 6-1. So I will not be able to watch tonights football game unless I can get it from Tyler.
Any ideas? Thanks.
Hey Etpilot. Most people really like the Channel master Channel Master CM7777 Titan2 VHF/UHF TV Antenna Preamplifier with Power Supply (CM-7777) check out solidsignal.com. Call solidsignal and get their thoughts steve
ksla-Eng 10-18-10, 12:25 PM Hello folks;
as you may know, KSLA has now HD news, 1080I native for Studio and Newsroom cameras, and Weather Graphics computers. Our field material is still mostly SD 16/9 and will remain for a while. Feel free to comment, I do appreciate your input.
HD weather bug insertion will be coming very soon, most likely this week, I have to shuffle some equipment around before it can happen. Hopefully the weather will cooperate, it has so far.
On a side note, I am now the Chief Engineer for KSLA, and I'd like to say thank you again to the regulars in AVS for the wealth of info that allows us to correct issues, so we can serve you, the viewing public, better.
windham9 10-18-10, 01:16 PM Hello folks;
as you may know, KSLA has now HD news, 1080I native for Studio and Newsroom cameras, and Weather Graphics computers. Our field material is still mostly SD 16/9 and will remain for a while. Feel free to comment, I do appreciate your input.
HD weather bug insertion will be coming very soon, most likely this week, I have to shuffle some equipment around before it can happen. Hopefully the weather will cooperate, it has so far.
On a side note, I am now the Chief Engineer for KSLA, and I'd like to say thank you again to the regulars in AVS for the wealth of info that allows us to correct issues, so we can serve you, the viewing public, better.
Congrats on getting the top job! We have been weather-free for some time, need rain badly. Nice to know the insertion is coming, KSLA is spending the big bucks to make all this happen. thank you for be a good source of info & help here.
ETpilot 10-18-10, 05:24 PM Hey Etpilot. Most people really like the Channel master Channel Master CM7777 Titan2 VHF/UHF TV Antenna Preamplifier with Power Supply (CM-7777) check out solidsignal.com. Call solidsignal and get their thoughts steve
Thanks for the info. I will give then a call and see if they can help.
TheAlbumMan 10-18-10, 07:21 PM AlbumMan. I agree with your comments on KTBS in studio HD it does not look as good as their field video. I sent an email to George Sirven their GM on Friday saying this,but no response. steve
George is very reliable and he will reply. I had to work this weekend and never got around to emailing him myself but I did watch the 5pm news tonight and the lighting seemed better but it could have been my imagination. Let us know what he has to say. Thanks.
KeithAR2002 10-19-10, 02:46 AM A tremendous milestone for the Shreveport market on having two stations broadcasting local news in HD. I've been waiting on this for a long time. Shreveport should be proud; currently, zero Little Rock stations air local news in HD. I knew there was a reason why I loved Shreveport so much when I lived there :-)
96corvette 10-19-10, 08:47 PM A tremendous milestone for the Shreveport market on having two stations broadcasting local news in HD. I've been waiting on this for a long time. Shreveport should be proud; currently, zero Little Rock stations air local news in HD. I knew there was a reason why I loved Shreveport so much when I lived there :-)
Have you been back to Shreveport lately? the crime is terrible sad to say and it is ramped through out the city. Congrats ksla-Eng any comments on why the HD news does not look like HD? to soft and fuzzy? I will compare Comcast and Dish when I have time
ksla-Eng 10-20-10, 06:19 AM @96Corvette,
are you in the position to compare with OTA also? The output of my transmitter doesn't look fuzzy or soft to me. Keep in mind that both Dish and DirectTv re-encode our streams in MPEG4. Let me know what you find out.
96corvette 10-20-10, 02:12 PM @96Corvette,
are you in the position to compare with OTA also? The output of my transmitter doesn't look fuzzy or soft to me. Keep in mind that both Dish and DirectTv re-encode our streams in MPEG4. Let me know what you find out.
thanks as always! no, only have access to Dish and Comcast, looking at both, the video looks about the same. Maybe Dish has a slight edge in pic quality I had a feeling it was the re-encode. Thanks for the input
windham9 10-22-10, 08:44 AM Both KSLA & KTBS news @ 10pm last night looked really sharp OTA.
KeithAR2002 10-25-10, 03:42 AM Have you been back to Shreveport lately? the crime is terrible sad to say and it is ramped through out the city. Congrats ksla-Eng any comments on why the HD news does not look like HD? to soft and fuzzy? I will compare Comcast and Dish when I have time
No, I haven't been to Shreveport in a while, but even when I lived in Shreveport, I didn't actually live in the city... I lived in Haughton back in 2004. I'm sure Shreveport isn't a nice place to live now, as I'm sure it's even worse than it was back in 2004. In any case, I still miss the Shreveport/Bossier City area :-)
dbriana 10-25-10, 10:03 AM .
On a side note, I am now the Chief Engineer for KSLA, and I'd like to say thank you again to the regulars in AVS for the wealth of info that allows us to correct issues, so we can serve you, the viewing public, better.
Any reason you can't switch the regular programming to 12.2 or 12.3 and inform with a crawl if you going to take off programming completely or off and on as on Saturday and Sunday? Or do the opposite with a crawl and the weather on 12.2 or 12.3 for someone in east Texas, Oklahoma or Arkansas.
ksla-Eng 10-26-10, 03:28 PM Dbriana,
I put your question to my General Manager;
"Unfortunately, a large portion of our audience do not get those channels. They are not included on DirecTV or Dish Network…and 56% of the audience in the Ark-La-Tex gets their TV signal through satellite. Our extra channels are also not carried by many of the cable companies in our area."
armchairGM 11-01-10, 10:29 PM Tonight KNOE debuted their new studios during the 6pm news.
They announced the HD cameras would arrive "early next year" and their studio is "HD ready".
Like KATC Lafayette they have also aquired the Titan HD/TruVu Max weather paraphernalia.
Their new studios really do look good and will look great when they actually turn on the HD on their HD ready studios.
haley-SEA 11-02-10, 06:49 AM Tonight KNOE debuted their new studios during the 6pm news.
They announced the HD cameras would arrive "early next year" and their studio is "HD ready".
Like KATC Lafayette they have also aquired the Titan HD/TruVu Max weather paraphernalia.
Their new studios really do look good and will look great when they actually turn on the HD on their HD ready studios.
At the rate Little Rock AR is transitioning to HDTV Local News, its going to be a battle between LR vs Monroe, or even Greenville MS. Three stations have announced up here (KTHV, KARK, KATV---the later just introduced a new graphics package over the weekend). But its all talk and vapourware in LR AR still until the day arrives.
KNOE should win the land-rush in Monroe, by a landslide. KTVE (which is the only commercial station from M/ELDO that I get up here) cannot even do HDTV storm graphics at present.
shongaloosmarts 11-02-10, 04:33 PM I'm debating whether KSLA or KTBS high definition is better. The picture and graphics rank about the same. The weather radar at KSLA looks better than that at KTBS, but the KTBS radar is actually live and more watts. I'm stumped. I was watching KTAL News and they have curtains that say "HD" but the picture isn't hd. If anyone in the market, they'd be the ones to go with Titan radar.
vphares 11-16-10, 09:55 AM Is anyone else having issues getting a good signal from KTBS OTA lately? I know we've had rain lately but I'm getting signals topping out in the 50s and going down into the 30s lately.
TheAlbumMan 11-18-10, 09:54 PM Is anyone else having issues getting a good signal from KTBS OTA lately? I know we've had rain lately but I'm getting signals topping out in the 50s and going down into the 30s lately.
No problems here. Is that the only station you are having trouble with? Could be a connection problem if your antenna is outside.
TheAlbumMan 11-18-10, 10:07 PM Tvfool lists several nearby stations (Analog and Digital) for Shreveport but it appears their database is incorrect. Is anyone able to pick up the following?
KADO-LP...40.1
K42FE.......42.1
KBXS-CA...50
K31HO..... 31
KADO-LP...40
SHergenrader 12-03-10, 03:10 PM Tvfool lists several nearby stations (Analog and Digital) for Shreveport but it appears their database is incorrect. Is anyone able to pick up the following?
KADO-LP...40.1
K42FE.......42.1
KBXS-CA...50
K31HO..... 31
KADO-LP...40
I haven't rescaned lately but I did notice a few weeks ago that I do get K31HO but it never has a picture. Just a black screen. Will rescan when I get home and see about the other channels.
ksla-Eng 12-22-10, 04:44 PM I'm debating whether KSLA or KTBS high definition is better. The picture and graphics rank about the same. The weather radar at KSLA looks better than that at KTBS, but the KTBS radar is actually live and more watts. I'm stumped. I was watching KTAL News and they have curtains that say "HD" but the picture isn't hd. If anyone in the market, they'd be the ones to go with Titan radar.
Hello there Shongaloosmarts
KSLA also has a live radar, albeit as you mentioned slightly less powerful.
It does have a 296 miles range, which is enough to cover our market.
It is located south of Shreveport close to Hwy 49, the call letters are WPMC497.
We can display it's picture in Standard Definition on the original Baron display, and we also have the data from this radar fed into our Titan system via a NIDS interface.
KewlThangs 12-23-10, 03:04 PM Has anyone who watches KNOE in Monroe noticed problems with their audio? I watch OTA and occasionally the audio drops out, comes back on out of sync with the video, drops out again then finally returns to normal.
shongaloosmarts 12-29-10, 10:22 PM Hello there Shongaloosmarts
KSLA also has a live radar, albeit as you mentioned slightly less powerful.
It does have a 296 miles range, which is enough to cover our market.
It is located south of Shreveport close to Hwy 49, the call letters are WPMC497.
We can display it's picture in Standard Definition on the original Baron display, and we also have the data from this radar fed into our Titan system via a NIDS interface.
My definition and your definition of "slightly" must be different. KTBS broadcast at one million watts and KSLA a few hundred (I think). I've really never liked the idea of "doppler network" anyway as KSLA uses, simply because anyway you look at it, the radar info is slightly dated.
haley-SEA 01-01-11, 07:15 AM The FCC canceled KEJB's broadcast license and deleted it (http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=23418) on December 22, 2010. The zombie "website" for KEJB (http://www.kejb.com) still lingers.
ranmasama 01-03-11, 08:47 PM Hey guys. I just moved to Shreveport 71118 area and I'm not planning on getting satellite/cable. I'm just wanted to get HD OTA channels for the Saints games. I just bought a 42LD450 LG TV and it has a built-in ATSC. I live in the first floor of an apartment. What do I need to get the OTA HD signals? Do I just buy any indoor antenna?
I have no idea about TVs and OTA HD stuff so any help is appreciated!
SHergenrader 01-04-11, 10:45 AM Hey guys. I just moved to Shreveport 71118 area and I'm not planning on getting satellite/cable. I'm just wanted to get HD OTA channels for the Saints games. I just bought a 42LD450 LG TV and it has a built-in ATSC. I live in the first floor of an apartment. What do I need to get the OTA HD signals? Do I just buy any indoor antenna?
I have no idea about TVs and OTA HD stuff so any help is appreciated!
You should be able to buy a cheap indoor antenna and plug it directly to your TV. It should be able to pick up all local channels perfectly fine. Just go and buy a cheap antenna and try it out.
Also, don't get sucked in to buying a 'HDTV antenna'. Most of the time, a $10 antenna works just as good, if not better, than these 'HDTV antennas'. :)
haley-SEA 01-04-11, 08:19 PM You should be able to buy a cheap indoor antenna and plug it directly to your TV. It should be able to pick up all local channels perfectly fine. Just go and buy a cheap antenna and try it out.
Also, don't get sucked in to buying a 'HDTV antenna'. Most of the time, a $10 antenna works just as good, if not better, than these 'HDTV antennas'. :)
Good advice. The plain (no amp) passive indoor antennas should work in that area. It also helps that Shreveport is an all UHF DTV market. :D
ranmasama 01-04-11, 10:04 PM Just installed a basic RCA antenna. No channels at all. No signal strength. There is big trees on one side. That may be a problem. I guess I get to watch a blank screen from now on. :(
ranmasama 01-04-11, 10:31 PM I checked antennaweb and it says I can't get any channels :(
I get some partial reception going in and out if I hold up my antenna while tippy toeing and point in a diagonal. Not practical.
Trip in VA 01-04-11, 10:59 PM AntennaWeb is known to be very conservative. Check what TVFool has to say for your location.
- Trip
ranmasama 01-04-11, 11:55 PM http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dda32503f1b7676
It shows more promise. Problem is that I still don't have channels. I do know where to point the antenna for the best reception but it still only shows signal barely for a second only. I can't move the TV. What are some other options I could try?
TheAlbumMan 01-05-11, 05:51 AM http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dda32503f1b7676
It shows more promise. Problem is that I still don't have channels. I do know where to point the antenna for the best reception but it still only shows signal barely for a second only. I can't move the TV. What are some other options I could try?
Sounds like you have a bad connection to the antenna or to the tv. Also try another piece of coax. Just curious as to which antenna you bought. (I reread your post above and all you said was "basic RCA antenna").
I used to live in a 1st floor apt in South S'port and could get all the locals with a converter box and bowtie. As for the direction to point.... all the major channels are towards Mooringsport.
SHergenrader 01-05-11, 10:01 AM Sounds like you have a bad connection to the antenna or to the tv. Also try another piece of coax. Just curious as to which antenna you bought. (I reread your post above and all you said was "basic RCA antenna").
I used to live in a 1st floor apt in South S'port and could get all the locals with a converter box and bowtie. As for the direction to point.... all the major channels are towards Mooringsport.
Agreed. Definitely try to reconnect it using another piece of coax. You should be getting some of the channels if you have it hooked up properly with that antenna.
ranmasama 01-05-11, 01:16 PM I got RCA indoor antenna ant111r. It was 7 bucks. How do i get another coax cable? Earlier this morning channel 3 worked pretty good with some hiccups.
haley-SEA 01-05-11, 02:58 PM I got RCA indoor antenna ant111r. It was 7 bucks. How do i get another coax cable? Earlier this morning channel 3 worked pretty good with some hiccups.
Perhaps try to move the antenna away from the converter box as much as possible. You could be getting RFI from the internal electronics of the converter box. Also do you have the computer near where the "rabbit ears" are?
FYI for the newbie, "Channel 3" (KTBS) is actually channel 28. The PSIP remapping scheme was put in place by the FCC to allow stations to use their legacy channel numbers as "virtual channels" regardless of the actual transmit frequency channel. All the major SHV stations are on UHF (the peeps in Monroe/El Dorado suffer with mostly VHF DTV stations)
Other SHV channel assignments are
KTAL (6-n) channel 15
KSLA (12-n) channel 17
KPXJ (21-n) channel 21
KLTS (24-n) channel 24
KMSS (33-n) channel 34
KSHV (45-n) channel 44
ranmasama 01-05-11, 10:11 PM The cord is not long. Like 3 feet. I do have a computer aboue 5 feet from the TV since it's also connected to it.
Should I get an extension cord for the antenna and place it somewhere else in the place? Do amplifiers work if you get no signal?
96corvette 01-06-11, 01:47 PM Just installed a basic RCA antenna. No channels at all. No signal strength. There is big trees on one side. That may be a problem. I guess I get to watch a blank screen from now on. :(
I also had the same problem, apartment 1st floor, near GM facing south west. I just went with Dish Net. I never could get the correct indoor HD antenna for all the local channels. BTW I also tried that flat antenna also with no luck
ranmasama 01-07-11, 09:40 PM The thing is that I don't watch TV at all unless it's for the Saint's and some NBA. Today I got channel 21.1 working and no other channels work. Luckily channel 33.1 suddenly showed up in time for the LSU game which I'm currently watching now. Jefferson is actually doing good. lol
Anyway, the only purpose for me watching TV is nationally televised sports games. Channel 6.1/NBC has not worked once at all and I feel sad about not being able to watch the Saint's game at my place.
SHergenrader 01-08-11, 01:45 PM The thing is that I don't watch TV at all unless it's for the Saint's and some NBA. Today I got channel 21.1 working and no other channels work. Luckily channel 33.1 suddenly showed up in time for the LSU game which I'm currently watching now. Jefferson is actually doing good. lol
Anyway, the only purpose for me watching TV is nationally televised sports games. Channel 6.1/NBC has not worked once at all and I feel sad about not being able to watch the Saint's game at my place.
KTAL will be the hardest to pick up in your area because their tower is further north than most of the local networks. Sorry you are having trouble picking up locals.
vphares 01-10-11, 08:27 AM I live in the 71118 area of Shreveport and couldn't get much at all with an indoor antenna. I have a house so I put up a Wineguard outdoor antenna with a pre-amp. So I get all of the channels but because of the trees in the area weather causes me to have issues.
KewlThangs 01-14-11, 12:43 PM Does anyone here watch KNOE in Monroe and noticed any problems with the audio?
oldtvdawg 01-15-11, 11:54 AM Does anyone here watch KNOE in Monroe and noticed any problems with the audio?
I too have been having the same problem with KNOE audio. It goes out altogether for a fews seconds. It will come back for a second and finally start working again. I get my signal from Dish and thought at first it was their problem, but switched over to OTA outside antenna and it was the same.
armchairGM 03-17-11, 11:34 PM Looks like the Sony studio cameras have arrived and are in place and the studio looks great.
They are using gray KNOE HD sidebars during weather.
KALB Alexandria finished construction on their #2 HD ready studio this week.
Cool to see Elizabeth Beaubien fill in at KALB last week.
vphares 03-20-11, 07:56 PM Today I replaced my Wineguard GS-2200 batwing antenna with an Antenna Direct 91XG Uni-Directional Antenna plus a Channel Master Titan 2 pre-amp.
Here is a table showing the signal strength on my Tivo Premiere.
Channel Original Signal Revised Signal
3.1 73 72
3.2 70 72
3.3 73 72
6.1 60 84
12.1 70 80
12.2 75 82
21.1 46 79
24.1 62 83
24.2 60 83
24.3 63 84
33.1 61 61
45.1 68 70
I don't understand why KTBS and KMSS did not improve. But I'm very impressed by the improvements to KTAL, KSLA, and PBS.
In the bedroom I have an old analog TV using a digital converter box. I didn't check the signal strength before installing the new antenna but now I have 97-100% signals on every channel except the PBS channels. There I have 0% signals on 24.1 - 24.3. But as you see above I have much stronger on the Tivo.
Can't explain why I can get 97-100% on 33.1 in one room but only 61% in another while many other channels show improvement on the same cable.
One cable that I used is suspect. It runs from the antenna itself to the preamp mounted directly under the antenna. I plan to make a new cable with good RG-6 and better connectors when I go to the office tomorrow.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
vphares 03-20-11, 11:10 PM Just for fun I re-scanned my channels on the digital converter in the bedroom. Now I get 100% signal on all of the local channels except KMSS but I get a 96% signal there.
However, when I then re-scanned my channels on the Tivo Premiere it made no difference. KMSS still gets a 61% signal there. Picture looks good on all channels but I'm concerned that I'll have issues when the weather is bad.
SHergenrader 05-14-11, 06:30 PM Anybody have any idea what's wrong with KTAL's HD feed? Watching the Players Championship and it's been in SD all afternoon.
SatinKzo 05-14-11, 08:45 PM Will be moving to the Monroe area in the coming months. Any particular antenna that seems to be better than others for this area?
windham9 05-16-11, 10:37 PM KTAL is messed up bad, at times the entire screen goes to green fuzz. My PC tuners will no longer decode it. Been this way a few days now.
legierk 05-17-11, 07:19 PM I've been having trouble with KTAL also....that is NBC, right? Anyhow, every other channel OTA is fine. KTAL hasn't had any sound for a week or so now. Am I the only one? Pic is fine, BTW. Haven't really tried to trouble shoot however. Since all the other channels come in fine, I figure it must be the station.
TheAlbumMan 05-17-11, 08:54 PM I've been having trouble with KTAL also....that is NBC, right? Anyhow, every other channel OTA is fine. KTAL hasn't had any sound for a week or so now. Am I the only one? Pic is fine, BTW. Haven't really tried to trouble shoot however. Since all the other channels come in fine, I figure it must be the station.
That's because they are a Nexstar Company. Even their station in W.Monroe did/does this and none of the "techs" they have know how to fix it. Yea, missing the Golf game this weekend ticked me off too. Just wait, come June things will get a lot worse when they cut their master control and several other positions and try to run things from Little Rock! LOL!!
SHergenrader 05-17-11, 09:24 PM That's because they are a Nexstar Company. Even their station in W.Monroe did/does this and none of the "techs" they have know how to fix it. Yea, missing the Golf game this weekend ticked me off too. Just wait, come June things will get a lot worse when they cut their master control and several other positions and try to run things from Little Rock! LOL!!
What do you mean they are going to run things from Little Rock? Are they shutting down the Shreveport station?
TheAlbumMan 05-17-11, 10:24 PM What do you mean they are going to run things from Little Rock? Are they shutting down the Shreveport station?
No such luck. They will remotely operate the W.Monroe station (master control) from LR. Don't know about S'port but it's likely too. Seems to be common place nowadays. Look what KTBS did to their camera ops. Have you noticed more screwups with their new robotic cameras and wrong news story graphics, not to mention those annoying animated banner bugs across the bottom of the screen? Even my new cell phone is loaded with banner ads on some apps! Geez..
windham9 05-19-11, 04:02 PM KTAL works on my Samsung set. Not great, last night not in HD during L&O. It will display on my Sony set with no sound. My HD PCwill no longer record or diplay KTAL in Windows Media Center.The PC tuner will tune KTAL, but something is too screwed up for it to work in WMC.
I've done tuner rescans, and put WMC back through setup. KTAL needs to get it fixed! Maybe the KSLA GUYS COULD RUN OVER THERE AND LEND A HAND??
96corvette 05-19-11, 08:17 PM seeing all the trouble reported, I tuned it in on DISHNET HD, WOW what a mess this channel is. Out of sync audio and I mean bad, I have no idea what the video is suppose to be, it is not 16x9 :confused:
legierk 05-19-11, 10:10 PM I Just emailed the station manager (Mark Cummings) and told him about mine and others' various issues. We'll see.
96corvette 05-20-11, 07:26 AM I Just emailed the station manager (Mark Cummings) and told him about mine and others' various issues. We'll see.
TIA is he even there? I heard he moved on :confused: wonder if it is this bad on DTV?
legierk 05-24-11, 08:38 PM Well, NBC has been working fine since about Sunday. Maybe my email to the station helped? Now, do I actually watch anything on that channel? Hmmm...
windham9 05-25-11, 09:51 AM Well, NBC has been working fine since about Sunday. Maybe my email to the station helped? Now, do I actually watch anything on that channel? Hmmm...
KTAL did fix something,,good job!
MrSmurf 06-14-11, 07:53 PM Will be moving to the Monroe area in the coming months. Any particular antenna that seems to be better than others for this area?
Sorry SatinKzo haven't checked this thread in while. I'm in Monroe and use (and have installed a many) Channel Master 4228HD antenna's with the CM7777 pre-amp and had great success picking up everything (in Monroe/W. Monroe having the antenna in the attic, in Farmerville had to put it outside). From West Monroe, North Monroe and even Farmerville. Your best bet is to order everything online as antenna supplies are limited in the area.
haley-SEA 07-03-11, 09:37 PM OTA viewers of FOX programming in Southern AR that cannot get KLRT Little Rock AR, KMSS Shreveport, or WABG "6-2" Greenwood MS can now get a SDTV feed of KARD in correct aspect ratio via KTVE subchannel 10-2. For a year, KTVE has rebroadcast KARD/FOX on 10-2 in stretchovision. This morning during a scan, I noticed the lack of stretchovsion. This was also confirmed this evening. Why did it take a year?
TheAlbumMan 07-06-11, 07:33 PM OTA viewers of FOX programming in Southern AR that cannot get KLRT Little Rock AR, KMSS Shreveport, or WABG "6-2" Greenwood MS can now get a SDTV feed of KARD in correct aspect ratio via KTVE subchannel 10-2. For a year, KTVE has rebroadcast KARD/FOX on 10-2 in stretchovision. This morning during a scan, I noticed the lack of stretchovsion. This was also confirmed this evening. Why did it take a year?
They've actually been doing this for awhile, but I would be willing to bet the FCC would find this illegal. Guess it won't matter much soon; master control operation in W.Monroe and Shreveport will soon be "controlled" from Little Rock - if they can ever get the bugs worked out.
gbranch 07-07-11, 08:15 AM What would be illegal about 10.2 being at an incorrect aspect ratio? The FCC does not control station content (other than programming deemed offensive), nor do they care about how a station choses to display their HD and/or SD programming.
Yes, stretch-o-vision is annoying, but hardly against FCC regs.
TheAlbumMan 07-07-11, 08:55 PM What would be illegal about 10.2 being at an incorrect aspect ratio? The FCC does not control station content (other than programming deemed offensive), nor do they care about how a station choses to display their HD and/or SD programming.
Yes, stretch-o-vision is annoying, but hardly against FCC regs.
Sorry for the confusion of my post. I was referring to them putting FOX programming (and pre-recorded syndicated shows) on 10.2. I'm pretty sure there are station agreements about airing such programs so it does not conflict with other stations in the area. KARD's tower is in Columbia, LA (about 30 miles south of Monroe) and putting that signal on KTVE's signal (in Huttig, AR, about 50 miles north of Monroe) is the illegal point I meant.
gbranch 07-08-11, 08:01 AM I think that what you are talking about is copyright issues. Stations have exclusive rights to show programs in their designated market. When it gets confusing is when you have overlapping markets. For instance, I live in the Tyler-Longview DMA, but where I live I can receive signals from both Tyler and Shreveport. It would not be illegal for a Shreveport station's signal to be received in the Tyler DMA and show programs that the Tyler stations have exclusive rights to.
However, if Raycom station KLTV, which is the Tyler ABC, decided that it wanted to rebroadcast sister station KSLA, which is the Shreveport CBS, on say subchannel 7.4, the Tyler CBS station, KYTX, would not be happy campers and could/would bring legal action.
I don't think that it is illegal per se for a station to import a station from a different market, as long as the stations have a legal agreement in place to do so. The problems would happen when the imported station tried to show programming that was already exclusive to another station in the market. They would be required to somehow black-out the offending programs on the imported station, and that could conceivably be most of the imported station's programming line-up. That is why it is almost never done this way.
But, I am not sure if the FCC would be the correct agency to enforce these copyrights as they do not control station content. It might fall under the jurisdiction of Neilsen Media as they define the markets or the US Department of Justice.
Trip in VA 07-08-11, 08:18 AM And the key to your message is that KTVE and KARD are under common control and in the same market. Arrangements like that happen quite regularly.
- Trip
gbranch 07-18-11, 07:38 PM After 5+ years of simulcasting an SD version of 21.1, KPXJ has finally added a real sub-channel, Me-TV on 21.2
gbranch 07-28-11, 07:49 AM KTBS 3.2 is now Accuweather.
gbranch 07-29-11, 07:59 AM Can anyone in greater Shreveport confirm if analog ch. 50, KBXS-CA is still on the air and what programming are they showing?
TheAlbumMan 08-02-11, 09:24 PM Can anyone in greater Shreveport confirm if analog ch. 50, KBXS-CA is still on the air and what programming are they showing?
It's still listed at TVFOOL but has been off the air for quite awhile. Wasn't that the channel that carried "The Box" (or whatever it was called) video music channel?
TheAlbumMan 08-02-11, 09:28 PM After 5+ years of simulcasting an SD version of 21.1, KPXJ has finally added a real sub-channel, Me-TV on 21.2
Yep, and nice to have some of the good-old shows again without being on cable/sat. Now if KMSS and their other station KSHV would do something with their subs. Doubt we'll ever see anything added to KTAL.
gbranch 08-03-11, 11:54 AM Nexstar is selling off some of their stations, hopefully KTAL will be one of them and the new owners will invest in the station. KTAL has a killer signal but that is about the only thing it has going for it.
SHergenrader 08-03-11, 03:17 PM Yep, and nice to have some of the good-old shows again without being on cable/sat. Now if KMSS and their other station KSHV would do something with their subs. Doubt we'll ever see anything added to KTAL.
Sub channels stink. Hate when stations have them. Especially stations that broadcast in 1080i. Wish these stations would put all their bandwidth to their main channel instead of taking away from it to add sub channels.
TheAlbumMan 08-04-11, 08:41 PM Sub channels stink. Hate when stations have them. Especially stations that broadcast in 1080i. Wish these stations would put all their bandwidth to their main channel instead of taking away from it to add sub channels.
Isn't 1080i the most they can have? KTBS is still at 720p. Both look pretty decent OTA.
SHergenrader 08-04-11, 09:13 PM Isn't 1080i the most they can have? KTBS is still at 720p. Both look pretty decent OTA.
Right. KTBS looks fine but KSLA and KTAL look so bit starved. Which they are. Ha. Can't stand subchannels! :)
SHergenrader 09-16-11, 08:35 AM Get ready for some really mad Saints fans this Sunday. KMSS is airing EPL soccer at 1:00 and then showing the Cowboys game at 3:00.
gbranch 09-17-11, 10:36 PM And Houston is getting the Saints instead of the Cowboys. What idiot at the network is making the call on these games?
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk2.html
Looks like KARD is carrying the Saints.
96corvette 09-22-11, 08:46 PM not unless you have DTV Sunday Ticket
SHergenrader 09-22-11, 09:36 PM not unless you have DTV Sunday Ticket
And thankfully I do! :)
FOX44CE 10-10-11, 05:01 PM Sub channels stink. Hate when stations have them. Especially stations that broadcast in 1080i. Wish these stations would put all their bandwidth to their main channel instead of taking away from it to add sub channels.
FOX affiliated stations:
If we carry subs we do not use any of the bandwidth allocated to FOX.
Subs are limited to 4 MBits by the FOX Splicer guaranteeing the full 15 MBits for FOX. :)
SHergenrader 10-10-11, 05:38 PM FOX affiliated stations:
If we carry subs we do not use any of the bandwidth allocated to FOX.
Subs are limited to 4 MBits by the FOX Splicer guaranteeing the full 15 MBits for FOX. :)
I don't mind sub channels on stations that broadcast in 720P. Stations that broadcast in 1080i should never have sub channels. KSLA is a perfect example. Way too much macro blocking during their broadcasts. Especially during sports. It's ridiculous. KTAL's picture is really well. Especially SNF.
windham9 10-13-11, 04:13 PM I don't mind sub channels on stations that broadcast in 720P. Stations that broadcast in 1080i should never have sub channels. KSLA is a perfect example. Way too much macro blocking during their broadcasts. Especially during sports. It's ridiculous. KTAL's picture is really well. Especially SNF.
Agreed. But I think CBS uses better cameras, their network feed is better than NBC. But I sometimes see issues with motion on KSLA KTAL KYTX & KETK. Subchannels certainly dont help 1080i. ABC & FOX handle motion much better, but the 1080i is sharper. All the networks and affiliates have so much better gear than just a couple years back.
rdstill 11-08-11, 09:59 PM Has anyone tracking this forum noticed any audio issues with KTAL (NBC affiliate) during primetime. (It could be other times, that's the only time I watch NBC.) Anyway, it's sort of a rapid cutting in and out of the audio. That's the best way I can describe it. Sort of like someone is pushing mute really fast over and over. It's been going on for, best I can estimate, a month or two now. I've tried my SAT station and my ANT station, and it happens on both, so I've narrowed it down to either the affiliate or the network. But I there's no way it can be the network, having been going on this long.
Has anyone else noticed it? How should I complain?
SHergenrader 11-09-11, 10:09 AM Has anyone tracking this forum noticed any audio issues with KTAL (NBC affiliate) during primetime. (It could be other times, that's the only time I watch NBC.) Anyway, it's sort of a rapid cutting in and out of the audio. That's the best way I can describe it. Sort of like someone is pushing mute really fast over and over. It's been going on for, best I can estimate, a month or two now. I've tried my SAT station and my ANT station, and it happens on both, so I've narrowed it down to either the affiliate or the network. But I there's no way it can be the network, having been going on this long.
Has anyone else noticed it? How should I complain?
The only time I ever watch NBC is occasionally for Sunday Night Football so I have no clue. I will watch some tonight and see if I can hear what you speak of. Will report back later this evening.
shongaloosmarts 11-19-11, 09:43 PM Has anyone tracking this forum noticed any audio issues with KTAL (NBC affiliate) during primetime. (It could be other times, that's the only time I watch NBC.) Anyway, it's sort of a rapid cutting in and out of the audio. That's the best way I can describe it. Sort of like someone is pushing mute really fast over and over. It's been going on for, best I can estimate, a month or two now. I've tried my SAT station and my ANT station, and it happens on both, so I've narrowed it down to either the affiliate or the network. But I there's no way it can be the network, having been going on this long.
Has anyone else noticed it? How should I complain?
It's KTAL. I notice it while watching Judge Judy.
MrSmurf 12-24-11, 09:51 AM Just a heads up, Looks like DirecTV & KNOE/KAQY finally came to a deal this week as CW, CBS and ABC are now available in HD in the Monroe area.
i49mobile 12-25-11, 05:42 PM That ksla would fix their sync issue The audio still ahead of the video. Ksla-eng please fix Does anyone else still continue to notice this. I only have this issue on all my hd sets with ksla. I notice with ota,dtv, or suddenlink bossier
SHergenrader 12-26-11, 08:15 AM That ksla would fix their sync issue The audio still ahead of the video. Ksla-eng please fix Does anyone else still continue to notice this. I only have this issue on all my hd sets with ksla. I notice with ota,dtv, or suddenlink bossier
I don't recall seeing that issue but the only thing I watch on KSLA is the NFL. I just wish KSLA would get rid of the subchannels. Way too much macroblocking during football. It stinks. Subchannels need to die. Hate them.
Ronald_Jeremy 01-08-12, 04:18 PM Just had to pop in and say that the picture quality on 12 for the Denver-Pittsburgh game is absolutely horrendous!!! Macro-blocking out the wazoo with the slightest bit of action.
And that is OTA!!
SHergenrader 01-09-12, 11:26 AM Just had to pop in and say that the picture quality on 12 for the Denver-Pittsburgh game is absolutely horrendous!!! Macro-blocking out the wazoo with the slightest bit of action.
And that is OTA!!
Always is on KSLA. Fortunately I rarely watch the channel so I don't have to deal with it. Get rid of the damn sub Chanel's so we don't have this problem. Ugh. :)
Ronald_Jeremy 01-09-12, 03:54 PM Thought I posted this earlier, but the picture quality on 12 was horrendous for the Denver-Pittsburgh game last night. Macro-blocking out the wazoo with the slightest bit of action.
And the audio was off. noticeable during commercials.
SHergenrader 03-17-12, 04:26 PM I rarely watch CBS but watching March Madness and the picture quality stinks. I really wish KSLA engineer would see this and get rid of the sub-channels. Sub-channels stink. Always get tons of macro-blocking on KSLA because of them. This is why I never watch CBS unless I have to. Enough already. Get rid of them.
gbranch 03-19-12, 12:57 PM I rarely watch CBS but watching March Madness and the picture quality stinks. I really wish KSLA engineer would see this and get rid of the sub-channels. Sub-channels stink. Always get tons of macro-blocking on KSLA because of them. This is why I never watch CBS unless I have to. Enough already. Get rid of them.
I am sure that the decision that KSLA carry 2 subs was done at the corporate level and the engineer has no control over this. All he can do is setup the system to provide the best PQ possible with one 1080i and 2 480i streams. And, as long as the subs continue to provide revenue to the station and Raycom, they will continue to carry them. The CBS or NBC 1080i HD stream really gives you little extra bandwidth to play with for subs without compromising PQ. 720p, like used by FOX and ABC, is a little more forgiving.
Yes, it stinks, but that is the curse of living in a small TV market. There are not enough OTA signals to go around, so stations choose maximizing revenue with subs over picture quality. We have the same problem over here in Tyler-Longview with KYTX-19. The NCAA tourney games on TNT, TBS, and Tru were much more enjoyable to watch than those on CBS because of the better PQ.
In a perfect world, no subs would be best, or a good alternative would be to turn off the subs and reallocate the bandwidth to the .1 channel during fast motion sports. But then, you risk ticking off those who watch the subs.
It could be worse - you could live in a really small market, like Alexandria or Sherman, where they have 2 HD streams on one channel.
FOX44CE 03-19-12, 01:38 PM I am sure that the decision that KSLA carry 2 subs was done at the corporate level and the engineer has no control over this. All he can do is setup the system to provide the best PQ possible with one 1080i and 2 480i streams. And, as long as the subs continue to provide revenue to the station and Raycom, they will continue to carry them. The CBS or NBC 1080i HD stream really gives you little extra bandwidth to play with for subs without compromising PQ. 720p, like used by FOX and ABC, is a little more forgiving.
Yes, it stinks, but that is the curse of living in a small TV market. There are not enough OTA signals to go around, so stations choose maximizing revenue with subs over picture quality. We have the same problem over here in Tyler-Longview with KYTX-19. The NCAA tourney games on TNT, TBS, and Tru were much more enjoyable to watch than those on CBS because of the better PQ.
In a perfect world, no subs would be best, or a good alternative would be to turn off the subs and reallocate the bandwidth to the .1 channel during fast motion sports. But then, you risk ticking off those who watch the subs.
It could be worse - you could live in a really small market, like Alexandria or Sherman, where they have 2 HD streams on one channel.
Actually CBS mandates that affiliates supply 14.5 MBits fixed bandwidth minimum.
FOX mandates a minimum of 15 MBits fixed bandwidth which is even less flexible.
Since FOX controls the bandwidth in the FOX splicer, FOX affiliates can't cheat.
Trip in VA 03-19-12, 07:30 PM Since FOX controls the bandwidth in the FOX splicer, FOX affiliates can't cheat.
Just because the splicer controls the bandwidth coming out of the splicer doesn't mean affiliates can't cheat. They can put the splicer earlier in the chain. Quite a few do, these days, to be able to overlay without dropping to SD.
- Trip
gbranch 03-19-12, 10:37 PM Actually CBS mandates that affiliates supply 14.5 MBits fixed bandwidth minimum.
FOX mandates a minimum of 15 MBits fixed bandwidth which is even less flexible.
Since FOX controls the bandwidth in the FOX splicer, FOX affiliates can't cheat.
Well, I'm not sure how up to date Trip's rabbitears.info site is, but it states that KSLA allocates 13.4Mbps to 12.1, and KYTX is even worse at 11.7Mbps allocated to 19.1. FOX affiliates KMSS allocates 16.5Mbps to 33.1 (no subs), and KFXK allocates 13.95Mbps to 51.1 (1 sub). So which is correct?
Trip in VA 03-19-12, 10:42 PM Bear in mind that a station with a variable bitrate setup will only show a snapshot in time in the data I have, rather than a maximum.
- Trip
FOX44CE 03-21-12, 04:00 PM Bear in mind that a station with a variable bitrate setup will only show a snapshot in time in the data I have, rather than a maximum.
- Trip
During local programming the bandwidth is determined by the local encoder.
In the case of ComCorp FOX stations the local bandwidth target is 14 MBits.
Stations carrying secondaries (like Estrella) allocate 4 MBits to the secondary.
During FOX programming the bandwidth is determined by the Splicer.
(10-12 MBits during Prime Programming - 15 MBits during Sports)
If necessary the secondary is bit starved to reach the FOX bandwidth goal.
Any FOX affiliate placing equipment between the FOX Splicer and the Transmitter without the consent of FOX could lose their affiliation contract.
Trip in VA 03-21-12, 05:54 PM Any FOX affiliate placing equipment between the FOX Splicer and the Transmitter without the consent of FOX could lose their affiliation contract.
That may be so, but a number of stations are doing it.
- Trip
FOX44CE 04-09-12, 01:38 PM That may be so, but a number of stations are doing it.
- Trip
Most stations that are doing it are large market O&Os.
They are not bound by a syndication contract according to FOX Engineering.
Albert71292 05-14-12, 06:53 PM Anyone in the Monroe,LA area do a channel scan lately and find something odd on 45.1? The past few days on that channel, there has been a still 4:3 image of some guy holding a microphone, and the word "poet" on his shirt, and a weird poster on the wall behind him. No audio, just that still image. Nothing in the TV info bar either.
Any clues as to what this might be?
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