After a long conversation with Ted Small this morning, I realized that he thinks everything is rosy with his digital signal. I assured him that a lot of people in S-B can't find 12.1 anymore. He said it was probably their equipment, since he is able to pick it up just fine at the shop on a Samsung ATSC receiver. I assured him that I have re-scanned using 2 different tuners, 2 different antennas, more than once each and no more programming on 12.1. I told him I get some sort of carrier signal at 90% strength, but no programming. He promised to look into it.

Everyone may want to consider callimg KSLA and complaining, especially if you are unable to find them on a re-scan.

222-1212
Ted Small, Chief Engineer

Good luck.

NFL Playoffs in 25 hours on KSLA...

When i got home tonight i tried for KMSS once more and no luck, then i tried 12-1, tuner went to 12 analog...so i put in 17-1 and it went to 12-1 and pulled KSLA in so something has changed since the other night. If they are doing the PSIP thing they still are not broadcasting any program info. All i get are the call letters. I hope they do get it all working correctly it would be nice to have guide data from ota.

Ken,

Apparently Ted got things sort of back to normal. I'm getting 12.1 like before. I also get 17.3, which is odd, (only on one of two tuners.) I'm glad I called Ted and insisted that he be paged. He thought everything was fine and dandy. In fact, even though I told him about 5 different ways that 12.1 was down, he insisted it was okay. I later called and told him that his signal was at 17.3 and, a couple of hours later, they were back up at 12.1.

Lesson: They aren't paying close enough attention to HD yet. We have to keep them informed. They don't always know when they are off the mark.

Well i guess i just will not get KMSS here, got my new receiver Samsung 360 still no KMSS...KSLA seems to come in a little better now. did the KMSS guy give you an idea where to point your antenna as in degrees like antennaweb gives? I think I need my antenna up higher in the air...25 ft or so now just doesn't seem to be good enough. Also D* cannot activate the receiver due to their server issues this weekend:(

I went to mapquest, printed out a map of KMSS' address (there will be a star marking the station) and drew lines and estimated angles from where I estimated my house to be. Then I got up into the attic with a toy compass and did fairly well.

Good luck.

Called the control room today and they said they are having problems with the hd feed. I guess no hd football today. On Kmss anyway.

I called several times and heard some discouraging news:

1. Chief Engineer Jerry Wimberly no longer works there
2. James, the acting chief engineer thinks the signal is ok, since it's HD on their monitor (which is apparently looking at the network feed...)

Kevin, the master control supervisor is there and swears it's HD there. I've told him repeatedly that it's not HD. You might call him and confirm my observations.

Sad, sad, sad...

the better get this fixed by the super bowl

I'm NOT optimistic.

have you called them back? James, the acting chief, does not answer his personal phone. Call the control room again and ask them what's being done to correct the problem.

James is on his way to KMSS. It is midway through the 3rd quarter. They may try a reboot of the computer. If so, we will lose digital signal completely for a minute or two.

My friend and I plan to talk to Program Director Doug Ginn on Monday, if possible, and GM Mark Cummings when he gets back to town. This is unacceptable.

I've just made the decision of no HD superbowl at my place.... (question is will shreveport/bossier have it at all??)

For the few of you getting KMSS ota, are any shows/sports showing up HD? maybe a percentage guess?? (the percentage of shows they have in HD of course... 24/football/others?!?! )

Right now I get all locals other then kmss with my current antenna, but if it's as bad as i'm thinking, I can't see a reason for me to try some of the CM antenna's.

I'm sure there are plenty of other "lurkers" who are wanting to hear their responses and reasoning... so please keep us posted.

I would say about 30% of the programming that is supposed to be in hd is actually broadcast in hd. I was actually getting excited about the super bowl until last weekend and they completely blew it with the nfc championship game. Nascar starts next month and they need to get this fixed.

All,

I talked with Program Director Doug Ginn yesterday. He tried to blow some sunshine up my drawers and blame the lack of HD on the weather at the game site. I reminded him that his Master Control Ops both told me they were watching the game in HD in the control room. Ooops...

I explained to him that I would be needing a waiver, since they were no longer able to provide a HD signal.

He replied that waivers were out of the question (some sort of Fox HQ rule...right...) and that, "This will get fixed!"

I called him today to let him know that "24" was not in HD last night. I had just walked in this everning when my friend SC called to tell me that "American Idol" was in HD!!! Sure enough!

I'll call Doug and congratulate him tomorrow. Now...can they maintain HD through the Super Bowl??

Winter: We get HD OTA from KMSS by using a directional UHF antenna and pointing it at KMSS' station tower, not their main tower. The station is over by Independence Stadium, at Greenwood and Jewella.

Is your Fox channel there in HD? (KMSS) If it is, please inform cpanther95 if it is so he can add your dma to the list of dma's that have FOX HD

House,

I can't reply to that particular thread because it asks for Dolby Digital 5.1 information and I don't have DD. Perhaps someone else.

I got it, I will let them know they attempt hd from time to time. When it does show hd it is dd5.1.

I believe because of how they do the splicer system, ALL fox hd stations will be in dd 5.1, but thats not really the point, cpanther95 just wants to know if the station is running in fox hd 720p, if it is, go to the hdtv programing section and find the thread about fox stations going hd thread, I'll tell him that your market I believe is up and runnning.

Houselog,

Tell him that our Fox is up and running, but only low power and low percentage of homes able to rcv.

Originally posted by burgranger
I would say about 30% of the programming that is supposed to be in hd is actually broadcast in hd.

30% (I understand this is just a guess on your part) but if you notice it to be that bad I'm deffinately not in a hurry.

Is it about par with KTAL? (b/c I don't even bother tivo'ng the HD feed for ktal anymore...)



Originally posted by Steve_Smith
Winter: We get HD OTA from KMSS by using a directional UHF antenna and pointing it at KMSS' station tower, not their main tower. The station is over by Independence Stadium, at Greenwood and Jewella.

now that's interesting... hmmm, so antenna web is mostlikely off on this one? Guess I'll get to pull out the trusty maps and plot this out :-P (or the truth... point and try method)

I can't even get a sniff from ktal's tower. I did get the channel once for about 10 min back during the olympics. BTW American Idol was in hd last night.

Originally posted by burgranger
... BTW American Idol was in hd last night.

Yessssssss !!!!!

Winter,

KMSS' previous engineer (since gone) told us to point our antennas at the station. AntennaWeb assumes they are broadcasting from the main tower (not so.) AntennaWeb also says their channel re-map is to 34.1 - also not true. They map to 33.1.
You must do a digital re-scan to find it, once you have the proper antenna pointed in the proper direction. Merely punching-in 33.1 on your remote and swinging the antenna around is not likely to get it.

Originally posted by Steve_Smith
Winter,

KMSS' previous engineer (since gone) told us to point our antennas at the station. AntennaWeb assumes they are broadcasting from the main tower (not so.) AntennaWeb also says their channel re-map is to 34.1 - also not true. They map to 33.1.
You must do a digital re-scan to find it, once you have the proper antenna pointed in the proper direction. Merely punching-in 33.1 on your remote and swinging the antenna around is not likely to get it.

last time i did a digital re-scan (i'm using hr10-250 hdtivo and winegard sensar antenna), I now show programming guide and the 33.1 channel, but get no signal. I try to go into the test signal sections, but get nothing?!?! I'm guessing the guide info and channel is coming up b/c of me giving D* my zipcode, however; D* did not show ktal until after I did a rescan.... so i'm wondering if i'm getting A signal... just not strong enough to display an image...

any thoughts?

edit: guess I should add I am in keithville getting all BUT kmss, so I can't complain too much... I just know swapping from 12.1 to 33 for playoffs just killed me... even the guests I had over were ticked i couldnt get foxhd (although after reading this thread i don't think it would have mattered)

I have the Zenith Silver Sensor indoor antenna. I'm located near Gladewater Texas. I can receive 3.1 (ABC) out of Shreveport and 19.1 (CBS) out of Nacogdoches. I know this is a dinky antenna. Can some explain why I am able to get these two stations which are located over 60 miles away and none of the others. Would purchasing an outdoor directional antenna help me get KMSS out of Shreveport?

mnlovell, ktbs is full power and has a very good signal so its no surprise you can get it, i dont know about 19.1. KTAL is low power and not HD anyway so dont sweat it. I cannot get KMSS here at all, got 3 different outdoor antennas and 2 different HD tuners i have been on my roof over and over trying to get anything from them. I will probably not watch the superbowl due to the horrible pic quality on their analog feed. Next year it will be on ABC again:-)

Just in case anybody in Bossier is wondering, Cox has HD available as of Today Feb. 1st. I called and the channel lineup is not bad at all.
ABCHD(ktbs)
CBSHD(ksla)
PBSHD
ESPNHD
UniversalHD
INHD1
INHD2
DiscoveryHD
HBOHD east
Showtime HD east
Starz HD east
I was hoping for KMSS for the superbowl but they will not have it. :(

Did they say how much the service is? I am thinking about switching from E*.

I believe they have a special first 2 months are 40.00 or so and after that with a DVR that will record HD and the digital tier it is 65 or so. But after looking at the digital tier you would need more than that to get a full set of channels...the way i added it up D* was cheaper. go check their web page for the lineup so you will know what to ask if you call...747-1666.

To get a DVR that records HD, D* sells them for $1000.00. Then there is a monthly charge (TiVo.)

Thats true, but I do not believe the cox dvr will be nearly as reliable as a HDTivo...or how many tuners it has. I should have asked those questions but after i found out they would not have KMSS HD it wasnt worth it to me. They wanted $45 for the install, what a joke since I had cable before.

just an FYI if you're an existing D* customer wanting the hr10-250 (dual tuner hdtivo) they will normally offer credits to offset the costs... www.tivocommunity.com has a few threads and most people were able to get $250 credit + 6mnths hbo/showtime/HD package...

and the monthly service charge for d* is $4.99 for tivo...

I haven't messed with the cox cable one, so i can't really comment on it... however; I don't know how i watched tv without tivo, and i dont know how i watched non-HD tv... so why not put them together?? it was tough to let go of the $1000, but after getting it online for $850 - $250 credits it was worth it for me...

I just read in the paper that kmss will be in hd on time warner and cox, for the super bowl.

Wow

Well the Cox lady lost a sale then I would have paid the $45 and had in put in to get the SB in HD, oh well. Poor customer service strikes again. I know she didnt mention Fox when i asked her which channels...crap.
Hope you guys enjoy it. Thank god it will be back on KTBS next year.

I've had to call KMSS Master Control 3 times now to get them to switch back. A few minutes ago, for Paul McCartney, I called to tell them I wasn't in HD and James, the new Chief Engineer, said "We're getting it here." I groaned, fearing a repeat of the Conference Championships, but he said "Lemme check my switches....Oh!...let me reset this bad boy...okay!"

Whew.

They just called me for the first time and asked me to keep them informed of when they lose HD.

My Pleasure!

Keep 'em in check Steve!!!

So far, so good. 1st half in the books and HD all the way.

whew.

The wole thing went off without a hitch. KMSS deserves a round of applause. Now if they can keep it straight during the Daytona 500.

I called the MC Op last night, at the end of the Super Bowl, and gave him a big attaboy.

I am glad you guys are able to get the signal and help them keep it on the air, now if they would just build a real tower and hire a few thousand more mice to run the wheel to power it....has anyone from KMSS said when they will be on a real tower at full power??

Who here thinks that KMSS will not remember to flip the switch for the Budweiser Shootout tomorrow night. Probably not alot of race fans here, but still should be interesting for some.

I can no longer pick up KSLA on my Mits WD52725. It apears to be a conflict with the PSIP. Mits says it is not a TV problem, and I tend to agree since I have no problems with channel 3, 25, or KNOE out of Monroe. Channel 12 engineer says it is a Mits problem. Is anyone else having problems with channel 12 OTA using the built in receiver?

Thanks!

The KSLA Engineer said that they would be making changes periodically, requiring us to re-scan (digital re-scan) in order to continue receiving them. One time they completely messed things up and I could only find them on 17.1. They fixed that and I've been getting them ever since.

Try a digital scan and see if you can re-acquire them.

Steve,

Thanks for the input.
I upgraded to the latest software (V26 004.05), did a digital re-scan, still can't get 12. I have an LG STB that picks it up fine (85% signal strength). I tried unplugging the TV for a couple of hours, deleting the digital stations, and then re-scanned. Still can't get 12. I have asked the Mits engineer to call Ted Small at channel 12, but it is VERY difficult to get in touch with him, and voice mail messages seem to be of no use. I know of at least two other Mits WD52725's that can no longer pick up channel 12. I guess I will just have to get used to swinging the antenna toward Monroe.
PS Is your TV a Mits?

Thanks,
Ron

No, not a Mits. I have 2 tuners: an RCA STB and a Sony GW with tuner built-in.

Sorry. It seems their latest change has shut out mitsubishi tuners...

Steve,

Thanks for replying. I will either hook up my old LG tuner or just watch KNOE out of Monroe. Maybe if enough people are having this problem, they will eventually check ALL parts of their PSIP data.

Ron

KMSS master control ops must be race fans. I never once had to call them during Daytona. They were near-perfect all afternoon.

:-)

Ron,

Maybe try their chief engineer again and explain the problem more slowly, using lots of technical terms and no swear words :-)

I had to go around with him a couple of times when they steered their signal to 17.1 by mistake. They hate to admit they are wrong.

Steve,

It's hard to explain anything to them when they won't call back. I'm getting used to watching KNOE. They have not failed to switch to HD a single time that I have been watching. Their CC works a lot better (when I get those frequent phone calls during my favorite shows).
Is there a governing body (Public Service Commission, FCC, etc.) that I can contact about this problem?

Ron

Update on channel 12

I finally talked to Ted Small. He assured me that they are investigating the problem with the PSIP data, but that it could take a couple of weeks to get it worked out.

Ron

Is anyone else having issues with ksla lip synch issues? I have always had this problem. With sports it is not that big of an issue but with the dramas it makes it unbearable.

burgranger,

I had lots of problems with lip sync on KSLA on my LG receiver, especially when they would be a little late switching to HD after a commercial. Changing to another channel and switching right back would usually solve the problem. I have no issues with lip sync on my Mits WD52725, however, I have not been able to get KSLA since last Tuesday or Wednesday due to incompatibility with PSIP data.

Ron

KSLA has been fighting with their HD for 3 years now, not sure why they have so many issues with it. Last time i checked it was on but lip sync has been bad almost every single time i have tried to watch. I stick to KTBS shows for that reason, just glad they have some great stuff to watch this season. I will have to try and point my antenna towards Monroe and see what i can pick up that way, a 2nd source would be nice.

Been reading here a while but just registered to post.

I talked to Ted a couple of times this week about losing the channel.

The couple of weeks crap pissed me off but I was civil.

But it looks like he figured out that they made a typo somewhere in the PSIP and KSLA is back on the air tonight. :cool:

Now if we can just convince the tools down at Fox that they need to change the aspect ratio settings for non 16:9 content to pillbox instead of stretching we will be complete. Aside from moving the signal up north and broadcasting at full strength. The ass-spelunker I talked to tried to tell me that the aspect ratio setting problem was on my TV. When I told him he was the only one with the problem and that even channel 6 got it right, he believed me. But he said he was only retransmitting whatever Fox sent him. Doh!!! What a tool. Read the fricking manual for all of that equipment you have ****-knocker!!!

Any of you guys able to pick up 45?

I can get Fox33. 45 WB is tranmitting from same tower as Fox on Jewella but I still can't lock it in.

Running Motorola DSR550 Voom box with longe range channel-master antenna, 30 foot mast, and rotator to catch Fox tower. Oh, and in-line amplifier.

I can pick up 45 but the picture is at half scroll on the network feed. Stretched like kmss on the local stuff.

I have no real lip sync issues with KSLA. I'm running an RCA DTC 210 and a Sony GW IV built-in.

I've watched KMSS for a while now and, when they aren't focusing on their HD signal, national commercials air in pillar box format. When they switch to locals, they do the stretch thing intentionally. They are mostly without a clue. I try to help them from time to time, but I haven't been concerned enough about the format thing to complain. I mainly fuss when they don't get HD right.

I was able to receive KSLA on my Mits yesterday, along with ChannelView information. Thanks to Ted for pursuing the problem with the PSIP data.

Ron

I noticed last night, while watching "Numb3rs" that they had a small "mouse" in the upper left corner which read somehing like "KSLA Digital."

Glad you're back in business, Ron.

Called the prick at Fox again last week bitching about the stretching of SD 4:3 content.

He basically said they would get to it when they get to it.

@sshole!!

Originally posted by Steve_Smith
I have no real lip sync issues with KSLA. I'm running an RCA DTC 210 and a Sony GW IV built-in.

I've watched KMSS for a while now and, when they aren't focusing on their HD signal, national commercials air in pillar box format. When they switch to locals, they do the stretch thing intentionally. They are mostly without a clue. I try to help them from time to time, but I haven't been concerned enough about the format thing to complain. I mainly fuss when they don't get HD right. Well I emailed the GM and Program Director today about about the stretching of the 4:3 stuff to 16:9 format.

General Manager Mark Cummings markc@kmsstv.com

Program Director Doug Ginn dougg@kmsstv.com

:D

Looks like your email worked they are not stretching the picture anymore. Does Kshv 45 have the same people running the station?

I think the engineers are the same. But I have yet to be able to lock onto the signal for 45 to see the picture.

I watched Fear Factor at lunch and I was glad to see that they fixed the aspect ratio problem. This fix also improved the picture quality.

I received this reply from Mark today,

We had our corporate engineer in last night and he made some adjustments to
our digital signal that should have taken care of the problem you described.
Please let me know if the picture you are receiving now is no longer
stretched. Thank you for your assistance.


On another note, are any of you guys able to get the tonight show on KTAL channel 6?

I don't watch NBC much, but I am getting the signal and can watch prime time. But when I go to tune in late at night, I get a blank screen. Not a "no signal" problem, just a blank screen.

I do not get ktal at all on my setup. I do receive channel 45 though. The channel shows up as 45.01 I found it at channel 44. The funny thing is that 45 gives me kmss programming info when I tune to that station. For a couple of days it showed up as channel 11.01 as the actual channel number. The picture is stretched, jumpy and when national programming comes on it shows as 2.0 dolby and half scrolled image.

I am pretty sure KTAL shuts the digital down after prime time. Its probably part of the STA that they only have to broadcast so many hrs a day.
Someone here talked to the engineer there and the engineer told him that they would be at 1 million watts sometime this year....If i remember correctly. Does anyone have any updates on full power from any of these STA stations??

You can be sure that management will drag their heels until the very last minute. This is the reason the FCC had to tell these broadcasters, a few months ago, to either proceed to full power or get stuck, permanently, with their low power status.

Government force is the only way some of these people will move.

Originally posted by ken984
I am pretty sure KTAL shuts the digital down after prime time. Its probably part of the STA that they only have to broadcast so many hrs a day.
Someone here talked to the engineer there and the engineer told him that they would be at 1 million watts sometime this year....If i remember correctly. Does anyone have any updates on full power from any of these STA stations?? 1 million watts??? LOL

Reminds me of the story about the old lady who's phone wouldn't get a dial tone.

She went to a neighbor's house and called the phone company with her problem. The tech said that he was sorry. They just got in another 50 gallon drum of dial tone and she should be back in service soon. :p

Pure BS is what it is!!!!!!!

1 million watts my ass!!!!

I am with everyone else on this issue, STA is a bunch of crap, if they want STA they should be forced to grant a blanket DIGITAL waiver for anyone who requests digital distants from D* or E*. Then the management of these stations might have some incentive to get proper towers and transmitters running.

Originally posted by Ronald_Jeremy
1 million watts???


1MW will be a very significant change. KTAL(15), under their current STA, is licensed to 15kW. I can receive this flea power only when atmospheric conditions are right, such as this morning. Whereas, I am able to receive KTBS(28), which is at 1MW, under all conditions, day or night.

KSLA(17), at 175kW, is more problematic in reception but is generally receivable most of the time. Since we have a CBS in this area, KSLA has become insignificant.

KTLS(25), at its current 57kW of power, is in about the same condition as KTAL; receivable under the right conditions.

KMSS(34), and KSHV(44), with their 1kW STAs are impossibilities at this distance, of 85 miles.

early rounds of The Masters will be shown on 74 (UHD) in HD! (Today and tomorrow at 3p with replays at 7PM and 10 AM the next day.)

KSLA will get another chance this year to show it in HD on the weekend. (Keeping my fingers crossed.)

Does anybody know when KSLA are going to start passing through dd5.1? I see that a few shows are actually 5.1 but all I get is 2.0. KSLA actually called me yesterday afternoon, but I was mowing the yard and my wife did not know what they wanted. If they call back I will ask them. But in the meantime is anyone able to pick up the 5.1 sound?

Another question, does anybody have COX cable, HD service? I am interested in changing but had a few questions about PQ, HDDVR, etc..

Hey everyone,

I am using Media Center 2005 and an HDTV Wonder as my OTA tuner/DVR.
I was wondering if anyone else in the local area was doing the same so that we could compare notes.

I can tune in 3.1-3, 6,12, and 33 almost perfect (split second hiccup on 33 every 5-7 minutes)

24 I can tune in .1 .2, and .3, but not reliably. If, for example I tune into 24.2 it might tune to 24.1 or 24.3. This seems to happen at random. It happens on all sub channels of PBS.

45 I can tune in 75% of the time. When it is in HD it has a half scroll thing going on.

I am located north of BAFB and south of I-20 with a medium directional on a 24' mast pointed towards Jewella.

Thanks in advance.

Nice channel lineup. I have a different tuner (RCA DTC-210.) I have no 6 or 45 and had to buy a second antenna to get 33.1.

Not to get off subject but I need to check out cox HD as well. All 5 channels. W00t!!!!!

Looks like the final nail is in Voom's coffin! :(

Hey guys been a while since I chimed in. In Monroe our CBS KNOE 8 has started broadcasting digital all the time since January and I must say they are doing a fabulous job. The NFL playoffs, March Madness, and the Masters. Even thursday and friday while the regular cbs programming was on they broadcast HDTV coverage of the masters from USA. I cannot speak highly enough of what they are doing here and have not had an issue with them late flipping the switch yet on anything.

KSLA also did a fine job during the Masters, although they skipped showing the early rounds on their digital channel, if I'm not mistaken. I watched those on UHD.

Kind of off the subject but I am thinking of selling my RCA F38310, I have the matching base. Everything works perfectly. If anyone local is interested let me know.
P.S. still no hint of KMSS digital or KSHV digital at my location:(
but i can get 6.1 when they are broadcasting. 12.1 keeps disappearing from my program guide on my TS360, have to readd it everytime i want to watch CBS HD.

Well this news on NFL on NBC sucks bigtime unless KTAL gets on the ball and goes full 1080iHD and DD 5.1. Their history does NOT bode well for this happening though.

At least it is still a year off so we will have to wait and see. I am dreading July when NASCAR moves over to NBC. I have been spoiled by fox and kmss for the coverage they have.
I can't even pick up the KTAL analog signal at my house much less the digital one. Just out of spite I have been watching the NBC out of California for any of the national shows. It is still sd and i get the local feed off of satellite but i refuse to watch it.
I hope cox never pays them and it stays off the cable system in Bossier. I hope KTAL goes out of business and NBC brings in another NBC affiliate who is serious about serving the market. KTAL has been the worst station in the shreveport market for years and it is about time somebody stood up to them and not take the poor service from them anymore.

Sorry about going off, but I am tired of this stuff. When was KSLA and KTBS on the air with hd. 2-3 years ago? This is ridiculous that ktal is still behind the times.

I am with you Burgranger, KTAL trying to charge for the lame programming NBC has and the awful pic quality they have been putting on the air for decades is an amazing thing. Somebody at the corp. hq must have some brass cajones for trying that. I can get the "digital" signal from 15-1 but it really isnt any better than what D* sends down. I do hope they get it together and go full HD and not just digital someday...

What the....? I thought (and read) that today's Houston Open on CBS was going to be in HD.

Dangit!

Does anyone have any KSLA pull?

I thought I read that it is not televised in hd. I was down there for the third round and golf is extremely boring to watch in person. We did get to see vijay, John Daly, George and barbara Bush, and got a heck of a sunburn.
On a side note, watched the houston fox afilliate, they did not miss one flip of a switch or had any hiccups during the nascar race last night. I know golf and nascar don't mix, but hey I have diverse interests
Went to the race in Ft. Worth, Texas last week, don't tell my wife but I would rather watch it at home in hd, than fight that traffic again.

Cool! I've been to many live PGA Tour events. It's really fun if you know someone playing. Otherwise, tv is probably better (not as much walking, more crucial shots seen.) The best tour event I ever went to was St Jude in Memphis. My friend gave me his tour money clip (that was back in the day before heavy security and picture IDs.) I parked in his player space, got into the player dining room and the locker room. The only bummer was Sunday rained out and I had to leave.

Fox did a great job with the race here, as well.

I saw on Titan TV that the golf was supposed to be in HD, but the DirecTV guide did not show HD.

Does anyone in Bossier have HD from Cox? I just signed up and I am wondering which software comes on the 6412. This debacle with D* and the ST HD finally got me to think about going back to cable.

I am in the SAME boat as you. I am outraged at D* for uping the price of ST with HD; to the point of making me consider going with COX HD. SUcks cus I bought an HD TIVO last year and I'll be stuck with that. Does COX rent out an HD DVR?
Anyone know a line up for their HD programming? For some reason, their website isnt recognizing my address so I cant pull up any local info.

Shaq -

I'm getting in line right now for when you decide to sell your HD TiVo!

Cox lineup
KMSS HD
PBS HD
Universal HD
ESPN HD
the card they give out shows INHD 1 and 2 but they do not have those.
also HBO HD, SHOW HD, and STARZ HD.
Good thing is ABC and CBS are failry easy to get with an antenna so them not being included is not a deal breaker. But when i called back in Jan. the lady told me they were included so i am not sure what is going on there.
They have Motorola 6412 two tuner HD DVR. 120 GB hare drive is kind of small but it does have 2 firewire ports on it and an ethernet port and 2 USB. Not sure what any of that is good for right now but....9.95 a month for the box and 4.95 for the DVR service. They have a special right now 49.95 for box and digital and one premium for 4 months.

The address thing did the same to me on the website, i tried mine and it didn't work and i tried my work( where we have cox) and it didn't work and i tried my parents (they have cox also) and theirs didnt work either.

I found a HUGE thread here about the 6412, it has Pioneer Passport software. Seems to be usable, although there are still bugs in it and there is a supposed update due any minute....i will get mine Tuesday and see if it will work before i ditch D* completely.

Got Cox yesterday. 6412 is pretty nice, analog channels are not as sharp as they should be but I expected that, however the HD picture quality is much better than D*. First thing my wife said was wow that looks a lot better!
Anyway the actual HD lineup from Cox is PBS, KMSS, INHD1, INHD2(both of which I was told by the lady at the office last week were NOT available) ESPNHD, DiscHD, UniversalHD, HBO HD, SHO HD, and StarzHD. KSLA engineer said they were negotiating with COX but he had no idea when. I tried to email KTBS but they have some kind of filter on their email servers and it would not go thru.

Ken,
If you dont mind me asking, how much is the HD package with the DVR rental included? As I stated earlier, Im seriously thinking of dropping D*. I currently have the HD TIVO, so I hope the 6412 isnt a major drop in features (I know the hard drive is 130GB smaller).
Thanks!

I think if you get the 6412 HD is included. I did not see where it had a seperate line when she was typing all the stuff in but I could be wrong...best to call and ask. 6412 is 9.95 and the DVR service is 4.95.
There is no commitment, and they have a special going right now 4 months for 49.95, includes the box rental and one premium and 2 digital tiers.

I did not get to play with the recording features at all, I recorded Deadwood from hboHD, but i was too busy taking down wires and rearranging things to get into the DVR much. The interface is quick, the only thing i have noticed so far is it takes a minute to resync when you change from SD to HD or from HD to SD. My Ts360 was seamless with that, but it was also upconverting all SD to 1080i so the TV was not changing resolutions on the fly.
I will hopefully be able to do some DVR stuff tonight.

Good luck. I had the 6412 from Cox for about 1.5 months before I got fed up and took it back up there. It was actually my second one. The first one died.

I was fed up with the Analog channels.
The second unit missing recordings and locking up.
Lack of HD programming.
Lack of NBC feed.
Lack of OTA HD tuner.

I dumped it and picked up the 942 from Dish for a $250 lease.

And I also have a lot of the VOOM channels now.

Well the analog channels are fairly poor thru the box, but when i hook them straight to the tv tuner its much better, and I get NBC 15-1 thru my antenna(not that they have ANYTHING worth watching at the moment). So far the 6412 is nice, recorded a few HD shows and it works just like my SDTiVo did, coolest difference is that instead of a window popping up telling me to change tuners when something is recording it just changes tuners automatically. I do miss the onscreen caller ID my TS360 had, but the HD pic quality is light years ahead of D*.
INHD is awesome, lots of good stuff there UFC replays of PPV(for free). I wanted KMSS HD to see Dallas this season and I was not able to get it thru my antenna at all so this is the best for me right now. I am hoping they get KSLA and KTBS in HD up soon, I am not concerned about NBC till 2006 when they start showing football, then they better have HD up and on COX again.
I thought about Dish but their hardware has been buggy for years so I decided not to bother, besides there I would be stuck with mirroring fees again. That nonsense has got to go, nobody in my house watches enough tv in their rooms to warrant $5 a month per room. I will use that extra savings to get more channels on the main TV where everybody can enjoy.

Oh, I forgot to mention that according to an engineer I talked to at KMSS, they are pouring concrete next week on their new tower in Mooringsport. Their digital signal should be with the other stations and at full power in about a month!!! Yipee. No more rotating your antenna. :D

That would be nice, I have 3 antennas and no matter where i point them I have never managed to get the Digital signal from them. What we need to hear now is that TKAL is going HD and not "just" digital. I would think the pressure would be on them to go all the way and not "half-ass" since NBC shelled out the bucks to get back in the NFL game, you know the NFL is gonna want HD broadcasts.

Where did you get 15-1 out of? Is it HD?

Not sure if you saw it earlier in this thread, but for FOX digital you need to aim just north of Independence stadium. Their digital tower is in their studio parking lot on Jewella. I actually had to use a GPS to get the azimuth and you have to be dead on. I still haven't picked up 45 even though it is supposed to be on same tower.

And the last I heard on KTAL going HD, it was going to be next year.

Its KTAL Digital, not HD. Pretty poor quality for"digital" actually but KTAL has had quality issues for decades. Although the other night when I did a channel scan the news broadcast did look fairly good. I still haven't tried it out on any network programming that is advertised to be HD.

Yeah I have tried to get their signal but i think the stadium is directly in line between me and the temp tower they are using...I have been on my roof at night when the lights at the stadium are on and I can see the damn thing but i was not able to pick up even a hint of a signal.

Amazing how close I am to them in a straight line but cannot pick it up.

Gotcha. I didn't realize the RF for KTAL was 15. On my receiver it shows as 006-01 but I don't see the rf. But I now see that the RF is 15 when checking antennaweb.

It looks like channel 12 has added subchannel called The Tube. This is a music channel. Channel number is 12-02.

That explains the email i exchanged with Mr. Small a week or 2 ago. I asked him to tell management that Multicasting was bad, and he countered with 14Mbps was plenty for HD, using todays encoders. I countered with the D* experience at that bitrate was substandard. But as always they will try to make a buck first. Wait till football starts and this subchannel causes the HD picture to macroblock....

Did he say when they are going to start passing the 5.1 sound? All I get is 2.0 surround.

I didnt ask about the 5.1. I dont watch a lot of KSLA, only during football season. It would be nice if they did 5.1 though.

What's the latest on KMSS's power upgrade?

They are currently installing the new equipment, but.....................

There is some critical equipment they are still waiting on and it is holding up other parts of the install. They will not make their target of the end of June. They are now hoping for mid July.

Thanks for the update Ronald.

Just an FYI, KSLA HD is now on Cox cable channel 710, now all they need is KTBS HD and the package will be complete for me, KTAL still not available due to Nexstar trying to be greedy but they are irrelevant until fall 2006:-)

Well July 1st has come and gone and I still can't get KTAL, I lost PBS yesterday, and KMSS comes in at about 87% signal strength, but is just a black screen. I did get a couple of other channels to show up when I scanned them. Channels 46.01 and 48.01. They come in with about a 9% signal strength so no picture or sound. Does anybody know what channels those are? BTW KSLA signal strength when up to around 90% and KSHV stayed at around 63%. I may go move my antenna this afternoon and see what happens.

Im getting KTAL DT at about 50% today, I get KTBS DT at between 64 and 70%, KSLA DT is at 59%. I get nothing on KMSS DT or KSHV DT. I am not getting either of those 46 or 48 channels. PBS is up here at 24.1(DT) and .3(pbs kids) and .5(HD), I get a signal at 27 it says LPB but no picture and when i went to the signal strength screen it shut my tv down completely.

I was able to receive KMSS-DT at 85 mile distance, this past Saturday. However, it went off sometime Saturday night or Sunday and has been off ever since. There must have been some unusual propagational weather, in that I was also able to receive KTAL-DT and KLTS-DT all day Saturday.

It was off on Cox all weekend too, I suspect they are testing and configuring their new tower, and switching things over. Go KMSS!

Spoke to the engineer again today.

They do have the tower put up and almost complete. They broadcast 'black screen' a few days last week then just shut everything down.

They are waiting on a few small pieces to complete the uplink from their studios to the new tower.

That is all that is holding up the show!!!!

Excellent news, thanks for the update Ron.
Now if KTAL would hop on the high power HD bandwagon we would be in good shape!!

The FCC has given the major networks, in this market, a July 1st " use it or loose it" deadline.

Yeah but that doesnt mean HD, and last time i talked to the guy at KTAL he said they will NOT go HD unless somebody forces them, so I guess it is up to NBC coprorate HQ to make them go HD, i will not hold my breath on that one but since they have NFL starting in 06 maybe that will light a fire under them.

No, you are right it does not mean HD. There is no HD requirement for any broadcaster, merely the same quality as on analogue. He will still have to power up on his DT channel or run the risk of being boxed into his present limits. Upper management will not tolerate that possiblilty!

Market pressure will eventually win him over, probably during some high dollar event, such as the olympics. HD is something the sales department can market to advertisers.

Somebody here in this thread talked to the guy there a while back and he said they would be up at 1 million watts this July, but still not the HD we all want, plain digital is lame, go all the way KTAL!!!

When I talked to KTAL they said they would eventually go HD but not by the end of the year.

If there is anyone that can put pressure on KTAL it is NASCAR fans. I know Cox caught holy hell this past weekend since they don't carry KTAL and there were a couple of races going on. And they are going to want it in HD. I am not a big NASCAR fan, but it is awesome in HD.

Well I am not a nascar fan in the least, turning left for 3 hrs is boring!!!! I guess if you were at the race it might be a little cooler....but still, not for me. I think its gonna be the NFL next year that will force thier hand in HD. NBC will probably have to step in and make the owners of KTAL do right, they have been bought and sold many times in the past but it always seems the new owners are just as cheap as the last. All those years when NBC dominated the ratings and they never managed to get the local station off of barely passable signal is pretty hard to take.

I saw 34 up this morning! Any word on 45?

Where did you catch the signal? Old or new location?

I tried scanning for it last night but I am limited for how long I can turn my antenna to try to find the signal. (Dish DVR will re-boot if I stay in the OTA tuning area for too long) :rolleyes:

This has to be from their new location, because I am 85 miles to the west.

I didnt have anything from KMSS HD last night on COX, didn't try to scan for new channels OTA though. I will try tonight.

It is definately OTA, for I am not subscribed to cable.

Did you get a picture?

I was able to get a black screen momentarily with about 80% signal strength then my DVR would lose the signal.

I talked to the GM, Mark, friday and he said that they were pushing their analog feed through the digital tower right now so I should pick it up. It was being converted to digital and broadcast in digital. And he also said he thought they were broadcasting on 34-003 instead of -001.

So i deleted the station from my Dish 942 DVR and then tried to scan for it and even add back 34 manually. Now I get nothing!!!!! :rolleyes:

Ronald,

I watched it periodically throughout the weekend and had no problems. The PQ is a little substandard and definitely not Through out, but when comparing this with their analogue channel, I will not complain. I have found that I need to insert a -10db pad in the coax to my DTV receiver, even at my distance (85 miles), to keep the front end of the receiver from being overloaded by unwanted signals.

I began getting KMSS with my regular antenna on Sunday. (Black screen prior to that.) The sig was about 80% and the pic quality varied. They seemed to be fiddling with it. One of my rcvrs got it at 33.1, the other at 34.1. Strange.

Well I am finally getting a signal about 85% but my receiver won't lock and add the channel! Scanning does no good either.

Note: the allstar game was not in HD, even though it was listed as such. I didn't have the energy to call the master control operator and ask him to kick it over.

I do not think that KMSS is HD capable, from their new site yet. I watched the game, in part, on KDFW, Dallas, and it really looked good in HD.

They are capable but they are too lazy to flip the switch. I used to call the control room every sunday for NASCAR but have not in the past few weeks. This station is the most lazy one around this area.

They are capable but they are too lazy to flip the switch. I used to call the control room every sunday for NASCAR but have not in the past few weeks. This station is the most lazy one around this area.Actually they are not capable of HD right now. They have not installed the microwave equipment to make a digital uplink from the studio to the new tower yet.

They have received the correct uplink equipment this week and it "should" be installed by the end of next week.

I can now get a signal but my receiver won't lock and add the station. That is because they are in fact broadcasting on 34-003 instead of 34-001.(dish 942 quirk) When they install the uplink equip they will also switch back to 34-001.

Until the uplink equip is installed, they will continue feeding the analog signal to the digital tower for broadcast. That is why it is a crappy picture.

As for them being the most lazy one around....

That is BS!

That low-budget sorry excuse for a TV studio out of Texarkana broadcasting NBC is the worst by far. They won't try to be HD until the end of the year at earliest.

Every time I have called KMSS, they have been responsive and at least let me know what is going on. Read further up and see the response time to getting their aspect ratio fixed.

You are right about KTAL.

I was still thinking that they are at their old site. When I said lazy I mean when KMSS finally airs HD, they come back from commercial 90% of the time they do not flip it back to HD. Then I have to call again. We as consumers should never have to call a station to have them do their jobs. I will say that the signal when they pass it in HD looks very good. I may be wrong but doesn't FOX have a splicer that is to be installed so HD automatically gets passed? As far as the people they are great and answer any questions I have. I just feel like I should never have to call a TV station to watch TV.

As far as KTAL I do not even think about those guys anymore. I did see on the FCC website they have asked for a construction permit. So who knows maybe by 2015 we might get HD from them. Even that may be pushing it. I watch a station out of LA for any NBC shows that I have to watch (no HD though). Luckily there is no football til next year. NASCAR is on NBC for the last half of the season, but half of the races are on TNT which is great for me.

I have an 811 from Dish and I deleted KMSS and manually added the station back and it seems to lock on now (34.01). Maybe that would work for that 942.

Guys, tell us how much you love KTAL!

1,000,000 watts worth!

As of this morning, KTAL cannot be 1MW. Their signal strength has not increased, they do not compare with KTBS or KMSS, and reception, for me, is still dependant on good propagation conditions. KTAL is just a notch above KTLS in signal strength.

Well, we are nearly at the end of the month and year that all major networks, in Shreveport, need to be at their full DTV power and, as of this writing, channel 6 is, not suprisingly, dead last!

Will KTAL make the July 2005 deadline with 1MW, before the mean old FCC locks them in at their STA level?

Stay tuned, for another exciting moment in ongoing saga of KTAL's struggles in growing to full DTV manhood! Brought to you by: Honest John's Pre-Owned Cars, Hand-Me-Down Furniture Palace, and the Underwood's Funeral Home.

LOL Hank.
The funny thing is i pick them up perfectly, not a good quality pic though, looks like they fold the SD pic in two then unfold it, stretch it for 16x9 and send it out with a crease in it. If they are seriously going to be the ONLY local network station that is not HD then they ought to at least make an effort to put up a CLEAN digital signal. Leno looks ok condsidering KTAL is sending it out but its FAR from the snippets they used to show on UHD.

Ken,

If they make their deadlines, it wll be a miracle worth reporting on Newscentre 6!

I think they are more worried about trying to screw Cox into paying to carry their channel than they are about meeting one of those artificial deadlines that the FCC will probably just say "that's ok, need another year?".

Ken, I get a decent pic from channel 6. When I get it, which is most of the time. They are not hd, but the digital pic is good when I can get it. As for them stretching to 16 x 9, you need to check your equipment settings. AFAIK, they are pillarboxing and the 4 x 3 pic is not distorted. At least for me.

But a few letters to the FCC will be in order if they miss the deadline! :) :D

As far as KMSS is concerned, I am starting to get peeved. They are still having microwave problems for getting the dig signal to their tower and they are still broadcasting on 34-003. And I still can't get them. If it is going to be much longer, they need to go back to low power at their old tower or at least switch over to 34-001. :mad:

I have sent a short and polite email to KTAL to see what the hold up may be on their full power adventure. If their parent company finally decides that DTV is not a passing fancy, but is here to stay; perhaps they will become serious about it.

Anyone have an update on KMSS? I called the station three times today, but never got to speak with anybody who knew anything.

What channels can yall pick up in HD.

Most everybody can get 3HD which is 28-1 and 12HD which is 17-1. A few people can pick up KMSS 33 which is 34-1HD(although they are working on their system so its not HD right now), PBS 24 comes in HD is 24-5 i believe. If you are closer to the texas side you might be able to get some out of Tyler.

In the Tyler area, only KYTX 18-1 is HD.

KTBS(92% signal strength 28.01), KSLA(17.01 87% signal strength, The Tube(Music Channel 17.02 NON HD), PBS(25.01,25.03,25.05 83% signal strength) KMSS(34.01 87% Signal strength, HD when the broadcast) KSHV (44.01 63% signal strength HD twice in a year) NO KTAL, NO UPN.

Ken...when is KMSS getting their HD signal up and running? I'm getting their digital signal on my main antenna now. Football season is approaching and we need them to be back on with high def!

Anyone need a 4-bay bow-tie UHF? :-)

I wish i knew, even on Cox their HD channel is black at the moment, it was HD before they started all the changeover. If I miss one second of NFL in HD on Fox I am gonna be a mad puppy.
Basically i went to Cox for this one reason alone.

According to Mark, they have all of the parts in and there are two engineers in town for the week to get it up and going before football starts. The engineers are from the manufacturer of the equip. So hopefully it will be up this week. :D

Great news, lets all keep our fingers crossed.

I saw KMSS-DT on 33-1, this morning. Looks good!

Excellent news! Hopefully the changeover is complete and we will just be able to watch them now! Hey guess what, i am probably late to notice this but the preseason Cowboys game is not on kmss or kshv or upn21...its on KTAL! What in the hell??...glad my antenna picks them up ok.

Well raise my rent!! I just checked to see if they got their stuff straight and they did. Checked in here and see that others are seeing it as well.

Back on 33-1 and my Dish DVR can pick them up! [smile]

Just need to see if it is HD or not. Pic looks good on sd program though!!!!!! (that is all that is on right now) :mad:

Yep I picked it up with my antenna for the first time EVER!!!!!!! Also back up on Cox. I will reserve my thanks till something is on in HD then ill be smiling big time.

I can get 3 KTBS channels, KSLA, the old MTV channel, KMSS.

When I plug in the Cox cable (I have a QAM receiver)... I can get PBS, Discovery channel (no sound), few ESPN channels with no programming.

Really don't care to see WB.

I wouldn't expect to get KTAL anytime soon. Not until their dispute with the cable and satellite companies come to an end. I can't say I missed them either.

In another 6 months, no one will even know who KTAL is. Someone at that station needs to get canned. This is just poor decision making. I'm sure they are losing more in advertising dollars than they would get from the fees.

While I agree with you that KTAL needs to get their heads out of their...well you know what i mean, its Nexstar broadcasting, their parent company that is fighting over carriage fees. If they let this drag on until next year when NFL football starts then more than a few people might start to put pressure on Cox, I will not put any pressure on them however, I pick up KTAL ota just fine. If they do not fo full power HD before NFL starts in 06 I will start to b*tch at KTAL. There is no reason a station that has been around as long as they have is too "poor" to go HD.
I do wonder where the breaking point is between ratings per $ and carriage fees...it has to hurt that they are not on cable at all. If I was buying advertising from them I would make SURE I was paying much less than for KTBS or KSLA.
Some bean counter at the home office probably decided they could get rich off this....WRONG!!

KTAL has already missed the 1 July deadline for operating at full power on DTV. If the FCC stands by what they have decreed, KTAL is locked in at low power. They would have to file an application for a new construction permit.

I wish they would not have drug this out!

I doubt the FCC would stand by that "ruling". The only way I see KTAL being pressured into anything is if somebody else was prepared to serve this area with NBC at full power. That process would take quite a while, the only possibility I see is MAYBE KTBS would take an interest, but I seriously doubt it. They could drop UPN and transmit NBC programming from the tower in Minden, but there they would have another problem that UPN21 does not have a digital tower either, i would bet the FCC would still allow KTAL time to finish their tower.

21 does have a digital facility ready to go. I think you will see them on DTV 21, without analogue service in a couple of months. Their tower work is complete.

Guess I spoke too soon.

Was testing my antenna inside. Sitting it on the floor = no KTAL. When I pointing it towards the ceiling, I can get KTAL.

Think I'll just stick it in the attic.

Good signal too :) I get all but one bar when pointed at the ceiling.

Wahooo!!!!!! :D

We have fox HD. "So you think you can dance" was in HD tonight!!!!

KEWL!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

85% power. I still don't think they are at full power yet!!!!

Good work Mark!!

There is no reason a station that has been around as long as they have is too "poor" to go HD.
KTAL has ALWAYS been piss poor. No matter what facet of broadcasting they have decided to take on. They are piss poor. They are still based out of Texarkana for Christ's sake!!!! LOL

Yeah the fact that the station is in Shreveport seems odd that their main focus seems to be Texarkana. Never did understand that one. Texarkana should let them move there and let us get a new NBC affiliate, for years when I was growing up I always associated NBC with bad programming due to their terrible signal, they are the yugo of the Big 4, locally(although KMSS analog pic is pretty bad also).
KTAL for years always had static in the pic like somebody was running a hair dryer. The digital signal is free of that thank god, although it still is not near what the SD digital is from any of the other local stations. Come on KTAL step into the 21st century! HD doesnt hurt, its a GOOD thing...

Guess I spoke too soon.

Was testing my antenna inside. Sitting it on the floor = no KTAL. When I pointing it towards the ceiling, I can get KTAL.

Think I'll just stick it in the attic.

Good signal too :) I get all but one bar when pointed at the ceiling.


Maybe KTAL is transmitting from your attic!

I hope someone at KTAL, who is public-relations sensitive, is aware of all of the ugly things we say about them.

>>>Maybe KTAL is transmitting from your attic!<<<

Not my attic, but I wouldn't be surprise if it was 'an' attic.


>>>I hope someone at KTAL, who is public-relations sensitive, is aware of all of the ugly things we say about them.<<<

Let's hope. They should be embarrassed.

Hey HD football on KMSS, 'Aints and Patriots. Looks great!!!! thanks you KMSS!!

Yes. KMSS HD on my main antenna looked wonderful last night. They failed to switch over once after a commercial, but when I came back into the room it was HD again. Now I need to find somewhere else to point my UHF bow-tie antenna. I'm still missing KTAL and 45 digital signals.

I go to church with Shannon Slatton, KTAL morning news anchor. She says they are aware of their shortcomings and are at the mercy of corporate management. She is a wonderful person and I wish she was being seen by a larger market. I watch most of my NBC out of NYC on D*.

Question for thoses with widescreen TVs.

With my cable box, I can get the TV to stretch pictures to fit the screen.

I can't seem to do that with my HD receiver. There is a full mode and a pillar mode. When the show is in widescreen format, it fills the screen. When it's regular 4:3 programming, I get the black bars on the side.
It doesn't seem to stretch. I tried wide screen, superwide screen, and auto fit, ....none seem to work.

I have the samsung SIR-T451. Common problem or am I not doing something right?

It is dependent on a few different things, my tv for example will not stretch any Digital signals, whatever it is fed that is what it shows, yours may operate the same.
I had a TS360 from D* and i could change the modes thru the sammy, stretch, wide...etc.
What kind of TV do you have? What kind of input are you feeding it? Component? DVI?

I've tried every setting ...guess it locks it with a digital signal like you said.


It's a 34" philips tube and I'm using the component inputs.

It probably is, if you have more than one component input try swapping them, some tv's have one 480i only and one that is autoscanning 480i/p 720p 1080i.

Question for thoses with widescreen TVs.

With my cable box, I can get the TV to stretch pictures to fit the screen.

I can't seem to do that with my HD receiver. There is a full mode and a pillar mode. When the show is in widescreen format, it fills the screen. When it's regular 4:3 programming, I get the black bars on the side.
It doesn't seem to stretch. I tried wide screen, superwide screen, and auto fit, ....none seem to work.

I have the samsung SIR-T451. Common problem or am I not doing something right?
Why in the F**k do you want it stretched? It may fill in your expensive TV screen but it looks like sh!t. Everybody looks like Danny DeVito. Go with 4:3 with the pillar bars. You will be better for it!!


BTW,

Is anybody missing channel 12 and channel 6 today? Well, actually I miss channel 12. I don't miss channel 6. I just can't receive it! :D

I have not been able to receive 12.1 or 12.2 for the past 2 days. I get zero signal. They must be down.

Regarding the need to stretch pictures, my friend with a plasma set always likes his pictures zoomed or fullscreen to prevent the burn-in of the pillar bars. It is for precisely that reason I chose an LCD rear projection tv. (no burn in)

Thanks for the help guys.

For some strange reason those black bars bother me more than Danny Devito looking characters (the majority of the time).

12.1 and 12.2 have been out all weekend for me too.

Hmmm...I could have sworn I had 12.1 on Sat

I had to watch the golf on regular channel 12. I could not get 12.1 on either Saturday or Sunday.

I just telephoned KSLA and they say they're working on getting the digital signal back up.

I received channel 6's DTV, this morning, aren't I the lucky one!

With all the HDTV that NBC is pumping out...uh....uh....uh....lessee.......Leno!

....uh.....uh.....hmmmm....

I was hoping to see Martha and Donald together in HD. The one would be dressed in prison stripes and the other with a pink tie. What a pair, fitting for channel 6.

Is anyone's 3.1 choking? I have 9 out 10 bars on signal and abc is choking like crazy during the Cowboys game.

Finally straightened itself out.

Ronald_Jeremy, I noticed you have a 942 and I was wondering if you are having trouble with KLTS. Until Sunday I was receiving it great. Signal quality second only to KTBS. Starting Sunday the 942 will no longer lock on KLTS. I still have signal strength of 88 to 93 but no lock.

Mike

Edit: Never mind. Came back on shortly after leaving this message.

ok, another question. i live in longview and i got my antenna up last night. last night i was getting the following:

KTBS-HD
KTBS-WX
KTBS-DT
KTAL-DT
KSLA-DT
Tube
KYTX-DT-tyler

this morning i went up and adjusted a bit and have since gotten KMSS but some of the other stations don't seem to be coming in. is there anything that i can try to avoid the dropouts or are these normal?

It is very normal, and varies by time of day, some stations may be adjusting things and not broadcasting digital early in the day. Also digital tuners usually have to do a rescan if something changes or they will not see the signal. You may need 2 antennas to pick up all towers at the same time, or a rotor to move the antenna for one station or another.

What channel is the cowboy/texans game on saturday?

I don't see it in the online guide. They show Indy vs Denver on CBS...but I don't see dallas.

Channel 6 KTAL

Thanks...

They still show Crossing Jordan and Las Vegas on the guide but I noticed it in the today's paper in the sports section.

2nd time this year I'll be watching NBC. :D

LOL yep, 2nd time for me too, they need to get off their butt and get back on cable. I will not go out of my way to watch anything else but NFL football on KTAL. Wake up Nexstar. If they want to charge for carriage maybe the FCC should consider a rule allowing broadcasters to ask for carriage fees but if they do they have to approve waivers for anyone who asks for them. They should NOT be allowed to hold us hostage AND charge for carriage, that is double dipping. They make more $$ by selling advertising than they ever will with carriage fees.

did anyone else have problems with HD MNF?

I believe that KTBS did not flip the switch.

thanks, i was hoping that it wasn't just me.

Is there any reason I can get kmss in sd but I can not get the digital kmss? The partiots-raiders game looked awesome on ktbs.

Have you ever been able to get 33.1? Their new digital antenna is in the same area as their analog antenna (aim toward Vivian, I believe.) Theur main problem is not swiitching to HD even when the network is sending HD to them. I actually had to call them again the other day and remind them to switch to HD.

yeah, i am not getting anything from kmss either.

Well I am picking them up but of course they are passing the crappy sd signal not hd. How hard is it really to watch the feed and make sure you pass the correct one? I am tired of calling them everytime I want to watch something in HD.

When I got home from church, 33.1 was showing color bars with a tone. I called master control and told him. He mumbled something and switched it to the HD feed. It looked fuzzy, though, especially when I compared it to 12.1. I called him back, he re-booted some computer and then told me the HD is down. I even called him back and tried to get him to try it again.

Obviously the chief engineer is off on Sunday and didn't want to come in and fix it.

Sigh...

Call KTBS and tell them you want the Cowboys/Redskins game. The game will have the induction of the tripletts into the ring of honor.

As you know the Saints game is being moved to Monday night 9/19.
The game is going to be broadcast on both ESPN and KTBS. It will cut off the first half of the Cowboys/Redskins game in the Shreveport/Bossier area. Some genius figured this up. The Saints/Giant game will be moved to ESPN everywhere except in Louisiana and New York City.

Please tell them you want the Cowboys/Redskins game on KTBS.

The Saints/Giants game will already be played on ESPN. We don't need it on two differnet channels.

They finally fixed it. I didn't think they were that dumb.

Cowboys game will play in its entirety on ABC. Saints game moves to ESPN at 8 PM.


Now this weeks Monday night game...No HDTV. Looks like they are moving some channels around. The weather thingy is on 3.3 now in place of the news channel. And the other two channels are down.

theses HD channels are being run by clowns.

The problem is the NFL will TELL them what game to show, KTBS knows this is more of a Dallas market than N.O. but if the NFL says you will show the Saints they will have to do it. I hope you are right and we do get the Dallas game start to finish, and i hope you are wrong on the No hd thing. That would SUCK.

What is up with the lack of HD on 12.1? The Directv guide also shows the late game on fox as SD instead of HD. This sux.

The Bronco/Charger game is supposed to be in HD.
Who do I need to call?

Nevermind, it just went HD

Just good old KSLA up to their asleep at the switch antics, early game Indy v. Jacksonville was SUPPOSED to be HD also. They are very lax about turning it on for football for some reason. Seattle v. Atlanta looked very good on KMSS.

Just installed my Winegard (from D*) on Saturday. I live in Stockwell by the Racetrack in Bossier. Can get KMSS and KTBS fine but can't get KSLA. Anyone else have this problem? Seems like if the towers are all together that I would be able to get KSLA as well.

KTBS news reported this morning (9/20) that KPXJ-DT UPN-21 will go live at midnight tonight with their digital signal on channel 21 from their new transmitter in Moringsport. Their predicted coverage will be similar to KTBS-DT. KPXJ will cease analog broadcasting and be one of the few stations in the nation to to go exclusively digital.

Yes, they were playing with 21 on Sunday morning and I could receive it in East Tyler.

You'll have to fine tune the antenna.

My two trouble channels were PBS and KTAL. I could get both, but KTAL would be weak and would artifact on occassions. So I had to aim it to maximize the KTAL signal. I have all the channels now except for PBS (which I don't watch anyways). Find the weakest channel and fine tune it for that...for most people it's KTAL.

Using a cheap $24 radioshack antenna that sits in the attic in south Bossier.

I live in the Southern Hills section of Shreveport (near the old AT&T plant). Haven't looked for the new KPXJ yet.

The only digital channel that I get without artifacts is Fox33. I can't get KTAL at all (digital). Channels 3 & 12 are watchable most of the time.

Just KMSS?? that is odd, most everybody gets 3-1(28) rock solid 12-1(17) is just a little below that and then KMSS...with ktal bringing up the rear. Is your antenna outside? might need to turn it a bit.

Does anyone know if 21 made their debut last night? I did not see it as late as 6:30, this morning.

I picked up 21.01 and 21.02. The same programming on both channels just one with gray bars and one without. 2.0 audio and clean digital signal. 90 percent signal strength.

21-1 is rock solid in NE Gregg County. Signal is comparable to KTBS.

I haven't seen 21-2 yet.

As a side note, last night and this morning (9/21-9/22), I get no audio from 12-1 or 12-2. All other channels are fine. Anyone else seeing this problem?

Saw 21 last night and this morning, in East Tyler.

Is anyone else having huge problems with 12.1? I'm getting break-ups. pixilation and sound lags tonight. Sig strength is 90-100 on either antenna or either tuner.

I have been having problems with both 12-1 and 12-2 since Wednesday. I get no audio at all, and my STB takes about 5 seconds to lock onto the signal.

I have also noticed that on 12-2 The Tube, the audio has been several seconds behind the video for at least the last week.

12-1 was breaking up on Cox also, must be a problem at KSLA.

anyone else having problems with 12-1? mine is dropping in and out like crazy.

also, kmss is listed as showing a game at noon and there is nothing on the DT channel. anyone else having this problem?

I just called Kevin in Master Control at KMSS. He says they're working on the digital channel. In his words, "...yeah, the dish blew off and they're trying to fix it right now." He thinks it will be back on the air by tomorrow, if not tonight.

12.1 looks okay for the moment.

KMSS was gone totally, no analog or digital, but the transmitter is still there my tv locked to the signal just nothing to watch...what timing...freakin hurricane. Cox was off in my neighborhood from 630 sat night till whenever, they didnt even make an attempt to fix it yesterday, that is CRAPPY service. One reason i was with D* for so long i guess. Might consider getting at least one D* receiver going for this kind of occasion.

KMSS is still off as of noon Monday.

Anyone know the status with FOX?

Is KMSS digital ota working today(Sunday Oct 2)?? It is unwatchable on Cox. Looks like garbage SD analog OTA will be the only way to watch the Fox games today...:-(

KMSS digital is still dark. Analog KMSS was also unwatchable via DirecTV satellite feed. I did not try my antenna as I was not at my house.

I could pick up the analog with my antenna. The digital on Cox was unwatchable, it was not HD and it was breaking up every cpl seconds.

No KMSS-DT in East Tyler since the hurricane. Analogue only.

They just told me they are trying.

****, I have a few dishes I can loan them if they need them. Been over a week. :eek:

They just told me they are trying.

****, I have a few dishes I can loan them if they need them. Been over a week. :eek:
Wow, there is a censor here!! :cool: sh!t :eek: :cool:

Hoepfully they can get it back up before Sunday, 2 Sundays in a row with no HD is enough!!

i pick up KMSS dead air at 85% signal strength. The beginning of the week it was at 0%. Apparantly they got something working? Just not everything.

33.1 is broadcasting the baseball game now, but not in HD.

Talked to an engineer yesterday and they did get the digital signal going but he was not sure if HD was working. He said his testing equip was at the tower.

I guess they don't have an HD TV at the studio! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

KMSS is staffed by morons. They are showing the WRONG freakin game. Deadskins at Denver. GET IT RIGHT IDIOTS, YOU ARE A COWBOYS PRIMARY STATION. ARGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!D

Does anyone have a number for the head moron to fix this?????

yeah, the one week that i actually want to watch a cowboys game in HD and they aren't even showing it. :mad:

someone must have called them, because the game is hd now.

KMSS is staffed by morons. They are showing the WRONG freakin game. Deadskins at Denver. GET IT RIGHT IDIOTS, YOU ARE A COWBOYS PRIMARY STATION. ARGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!D


You're not kidding. KMSS is just horrible. Fire the whole staff! Quality of the game is horrible as usual. Worst than an analog OTA. Video kept jumping from 4:3 to 16:9 to 4:3. Cut off half the damn game. And Arggg...Deadskins game on top of it.

I'm a Redskins fan and one of my buddies called me and told me they were on 33.1 in HD! I hustled home from the movies and fired up the TV, only to find the Plowboys and the Beagles.

Oh well...

Well if KMSS could have gotten it right from the getgo this would be one helluva good football day:-) Deadskins lose, Boys kick the crap outta Philly....Life is good!!
Thanks to whoever knew the # to call KMSS and cuss them personally for this latest bonehead move.

What do ya know, it is the ALCS and of course KMSS is off the air. This is getting ridiculous.

The HD channel was not active on Cox last night either, KMSS must be having some major problems.

I called the control room last night and he said they were working on it. Tonight the channel is on but not in hd. I will call them in a few minutes.

The Fox-HD feed on KMSS is now making my STB lock up. When tuning to the channel, I get a frozen picture with repeating audio, and my box will not respond to any commands except power off. I have to power-off, then back on, and quickly change channels before the KMSS signal locks.

It appears to only do this during Fox-HD broadcasts. The SD broadcasts on KMSS seem to be OK. All other channels are OK.

Hope KMSS gets their problems fixed before the Astros-Sox series starts. ;)

My STB is an Accurian HTS-6000.

SON OF A @#(@#*!! kmss was showing the packers-vikings game on the hd station. halftime came and i went to another room. i just came back and they had switched to a movie instead.

ps, what's the number to call and voice complaints? i tried the number on the website, but that just points me to a menu that gets me nowhere.

Actually, they were not supposed to be showing a game at noon...they corrected their mistake and switched to the correct programming.

It was good while it lasted though. Too bad they figured it out in the 3rd quarter.

I saw something funny. When they switched to the movie, they showed an ad for a Master Control Operator Position I guess that was the last mistake that guy ever made. Maybe they will get someone who enjoys doing their job and actually do a good job.

LOL yeah, could be that was the last straw. I do wish they would get KSHV on a real tower, i still cannot pick that one up.