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ricknzoe
01-10-07, 10:53 PM
On a side note. KPXJ 21-01 is now in HD. I never watch it but I was surfing and it is HD. 21-02 used to be the same feed except with black bars instead of gray bars. 21-02 is still SD.

Rescanned yesterday and you're right, there they were. Tonight I noticed a lot of pixilation. Anyone else see it or was it just me and my little bowtie?

i49mobile
01-10-07, 11:19 PM
Got my Plasma up and running yesterday--I live in North Bossier. I bought a $29 Radio Shack UHF antenna-- I was getting everything in the 90s, but KSLA in the 70s and could not get KTAL 6-1 at all. I took my old 75ohm amp that Cox Cable had given me and put it inline, now I get KTAL 6-1 (signal strength around 60 on my unit) I did not move my antenna at all toward Vivian and the KTAL tower.

Spiderman2006
01-10-07, 11:37 PM
Im in Magnolia and only getting a 20 on 10-1. Which direction should I have my antenna pointed?

hackerjacker25
01-11-07, 09:03 AM
Spiderman , channel 10-1 ktve transmitter is located about 60 miles to your East/ South-East 105 degress from magnolia.

SHergenrader
01-11-07, 11:09 AM
NBC/KTAL is low power right now so you might want to wait till the time "if" they go full power and HD before dropping the money on a new antenna.

On a side note. KPXJ 21-01 is now in HD. I never watch it but I was surfing and it is HD. 21-02 used to be the same feed except with black bars instead of gray bars. 21-02 is still SD.

LMMFAO!!!!

Our obscure CW network affiliate is HD before NBC. hehehehee :D

KTAL sucks!!!!!


KPXJ has been in HD for at least a few weeks now on 21.1. I'm not exactly sure how long before a few weeks ago they were on though.

jcasey
01-11-07, 11:58 AM
Your DirecTV receiver should get OTA, is it an HR20? D* released an update just before Christmas and enabled the OTA tuners, mine picks up everything perfectly from South Bossier. Try 17-1 to see if that helps with your TV tuner also, 12-1 is actually on that frequency and with my old D* tuner i had to tune that in to see the signal.

It does not receive OTA HD. It is a HR250, the model previous to the HR20. What is this update that you are speaking of? Will this allow my receiver to receive an OTA HD signal? Sorry, what is D*? I could not get 17.1, nor could I find it on antennaweb. Is this CBS?

SHergenrader
01-11-07, 12:32 PM
It does not receive OTA HD. It is a HR250, the model previous to the HR20. What is this update that you are speaking of? Will this allow my receiver to receive an OTA HD signal? Sorry, what is D*? I could not get 17.1, nor could I find it on antennaweb. Is this CBS?


D* means DirecTV. Just shorter to type D* than typing out DirecTV

Ronald_Jeremy
01-11-07, 02:27 PM
It does not receive OTA HD. It is a HR250, the model previous to the HR20. What is this update that you are speaking of? Will this allow my receiver to receive an OTA HD signal? Sorry, what is D*? I could not get 17.1, nor could I find it on antennaweb. Is this CBS?Do you mean HR10-250?

I can't find an HR250.

If it is the HR10-250 then according to the manual, it has a built in OTA digital tuner.

http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/System_Manuals/DIRECTV/DIRECTV_HR10-250.pdf

ricknzoe
01-11-07, 02:48 PM
Do you mean HR10-250?

I can't find an HR250.

If it is the HR10-250 then according to the manual, it has a built in OTA digital tuner.

http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/System_Manuals/DIRECTV/DIRECTV_HR10-250.pdf

I've got the HR10-250 and it does receive OTA digital. But, I still connect my antennae direct to the TV. I seem to get better picture quality, but the downside is having to switch between inputs and using two remotes. It's hard enough to keep up with one.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-11-07, 02:58 PM
My previous post was directed towards jcasey who says his doesn't get OTA HD.

ricknzoe
01-11-07, 06:11 PM
My previous post was directed towards jcasey who says his doesn't get OTA HD.

Yeah, I was just confirming what you said based on my own experience.

SHergenrader
01-11-07, 09:02 PM
Ok, I have tried 3 different antennas now and I am still unable to get any video on 12.1. I can get audio everytime but no video. On 12.2 and 12.3 I can receive both video and audio. It's a Philips 42 inch plasma. Any ideas or suggestions on what I can try?

smackman1
01-12-07, 10:40 AM
Stay with D*
Why would you stay with D* over E* I am a E* customer so convince me to go to D* I promise you I am open to switching if something is better. All of my family moved from D* to E* 2 years ago but we would happily move back if we are missing out on some inside future info. we are not aware of. Deal your cards.
Smackman

SHergenrader
01-12-07, 11:11 AM
Why would you stay with D* over E* I am a E* customer so convince me to go to D* I promise you I am open to switching if something is better. All of my family moved from D* to E* 2 years ago but we would happily move back if we are missing out on some inside future info. we are not aware of. Deal your cards.
Smackman


He was already with DirecTV and I was just telling him to stay with them and not worry about switching. I have nothing against Dish. I've never had it so I can't so anything bad about it. I actually think Dish is great whenever they refuse to carry a channel whenever they feel they have to raise their package prices.

haley-SEA
01-12-07, 11:42 AM
KPXJ has been in HD for at least a few weeks now on 21.1. I'm not exactly sure how long before a few weeks ago they were on though.

KPXJ has been HD since September 2005 or so going back to the old UPN network. I've DX'ed them prior to that when KPXJ was an analog station.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-12-07, 12:04 PM
They have been digital since that time. Not HD. The HD is recent.

jcasey
01-12-07, 03:00 PM
Yes, it is the HR10-250, sorry. Apparently when I hooked in my OTA antenna into the receiver, I didn't set up the menu correctly and that's why I could not get the channels. :o Now, I get 12.1 perfectly, but 45.1 went away. Oh well, that's no great loss. Thanks for all the help. ricknzoe, you are right, the picture quality seems to be better directly to the tv. Does anyone know if I were to use a splitter on my antenna could I hook into the tv and the receiver? BTW, my main reason for using DirecTV instead of Dish is because of NFL Sunday Ticket. Get Superfan and you get almost all of the games in HD every week! I have had Sunday Ticket for 4 years now and love it. This was my first year of Superfan and it made it soooo much better. If you love NFL football, it is DirecTV no question.

KeithAR2002
01-12-07, 05:54 PM
Actually, Haley is right, KPXJ has been in HD since at least March, because I've watched plenty of HD programs on 21-1, the first ones being back in March-April. I called KTBS a little while ago, and they confirmed that the HD on KPXJ is not a new thing.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-12-07, 09:41 PM
Actually, Haley is right, KPXJ has been in HD since at least March, because I've watched plenty of HD programs on 21-1, the first ones being back in March-April. I called KTBS a little while ago, and they confirmed that the HD on KPXJ is not a new thing.Well I stand corrected. I RARELY watch KPXJ. Maybe pass it twice a month. The post made above was the first time I have ever seen HD it.

BTW, is 45.1 KSHV transmitting off of Fox's tower or are they still down near Independence stadium?

I still can't get them. I can now get a good signal in the 90's but the bar it stays red and won't lock. That is on RF 44 and on a Dish VIP622.

SHergenrader
01-12-07, 10:39 PM
Well I stand corrected. I RARELY watch KPXJ. Maybe pass it twice a month. The post made above was the first time I have ever seen HD it.

BTW, is 45.1 KSHV transmitting off of Fox's tower or are they still down near Independence stadium?

I still can't get them. I can now get a good signal in the 90's but the bar it stays red and won't lock. That is on RF 44 and on a Dish VIP622.


I don't get 45.1. I get 44.3 and 44.4, which is just a green screen with audio from channel 45. 44.3 is a digital feed from channel 45 but it's never been in HD.

KeithAR2002
01-13-07, 12:39 AM
I have been trying to find out if KSHV does HD, I asked on here a while back, and one person said they were. SHergenrader, you might want to try and call the station to see why they are just broadcasting a green screen... how long has it been like that? And are you still not getting a picture from 12.1?

On another note, KTVE in El Dorado started broadcasting NBC-HD tonight :) That's kind of sad when an affiliate in a #130+ market comes online with full power/HD before an affiliate in a top 100 market... need to start writing letters to the KTAL GM.. I really thought they would be on before KTVE... that's crazy!

SHergenrader
01-13-07, 10:55 AM
I have been trying to find out if KSHV does HD, I asked on here a while back, and one person said they were. SHergenrader, you might want to try and call the station to see why they are just broadcasting a green screen... how long has it been like that? And are you still not getting a picture from 12.1?

On another note, KTVE in El Dorado started broadcasting NBC-HD tonight :) That's kind of sad when an affiliate in a #130+ market comes online with full power/HD before an affiliate in a top 100 market... need to start writing letters to the KTAL GM.. I really thought they would be on before KTVE... that's crazy!


I will give KSHV a call today and see what they say. On 44.3, it's the same feed as you would see on 45 and then on 44.4 it's just a green screen with audio. It's been like that for at least a month. And as for 12.1, yeah, I still have no video. I have spent countless hours trying to search and figure out the problem but have yet to figure it out. I have updated the firmware on the tv and that didn't correct the problem either. I have tried 3 antenna and have no success. I am all out of ideas.

I will let you know what KSHV says whenever I give them a call.

haley-SEA
01-13-07, 09:14 PM
On another note, KTVE in El Dorado started broadcasting NBC-HD tonight :) That's kind of sad when an affiliate in a #130+ market comes online with full power/HD before an affiliate in a top 100 market... need to start writing letters to the KTAL GM.. I really thought they would be on before KTVE... that's crazy!

Things could be worse....we all could be in the Springfield-Branson, MO area.

Propagation is horrible to Little Rock (my locals) so had to resort to the E* local feed of FOX. Will be glad when that rain and cold front make it though.

KTVE just went from the outhouse to the penthouse in a matter of weeks. PQ excellent and the low-res radar image (on 10-2)isn't stealing much bandwidth from the HD. Just had to take a look for a minute.

ken984
01-14-07, 03:35 PM
Instead of going to 12-1 try 17-1, my tv tuner wont tune in 12-1 at all but if i do 17-1 i get KSLA HD fine. And yes you can use a splitter on the OTA, i have mine split and it comes in fine on 2 tuners without a preamp or amp.
The one thing D* has going for it is NFL ST, and when they finally launch the 2 new sats this year they should have a ton of new HD, but I wouldn't switch just yet, unless you are sick of E* for some other reason.

fatboydave
01-14-07, 08:06 PM
Do you have 129W or 61.5W? What type of receiver do you have?
I plan to get the 2 211s but I'm trying to determine the best place to "move" after installation next week. So, i'm not pointing at anything yet for HD channels. I am looking around to see what I can pick up around Lafayette for the LILs in HD.

digiblur
01-14-07, 09:49 PM
I plan to get the 2 211s but I'm trying to determine the best place to "move" after installation next week. So, i'm not pointing at anything yet for HD channels. I am looking around to see what I can pick up around Lafayette for the LILs in HD.

You'll probably get a Dish1000 installation pointing at 110/119/129. If you can demand a Dish 1000.2 as seen here:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=86715

Your best bet is a separate dish pointed at 61.5 for HD or 129. 61.5's signal strength is a lot higher than 129, which will highly reduce your chances of rain fade. There are no spotbeamed HD's reaching Lafayette that I know of...maybe Houston, TX but I highly doubt it with a standard sized dish. You are better off with a CONUS market depending on if you get 129 or 61.5 for HD.

The HD markets are in green:

61.5:
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish61.html

129:
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish129.html

haley-SEA
01-16-07, 08:25 AM
Question to those in the know, why is the Today show on KTVE not in HD. KARK in Little Rock (normally) carries it in HD.

Also, anyone from the eastern Shreveport DMA picking up KTVE(DT), and how is the signal strength.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-16-07, 03:50 PM
I will give KSHV a call today and see what they say. On 44.3, it's the same feed as you would see on 45 and then on 44.4 it's just a green screen with audio. It's been like that for at least a month. And as for 12.1, yeah, I still have no video. I have spent countless hours trying to search and figure out the problem but have yet to figure it out. I have updated the firmware on the tv and that didn't correct the problem either. I have tried 3 antenna and have no success. I am all out of ideas.

I will let you know what KSHV says whenever I give them a call.I spoke to the engineer today. I told him about me with a great signal and not being able to lock on 44. I forgot to tell him about your deal.

He was going to look into it. He thought there might be some bad PSIP data.

SHergenrader
01-16-07, 04:58 PM
I spoke to the engineer today. I told him about me with a great signal and not being able to lock on 44. I forgot to tell him about your deal.

He was going to look into it. He thought there might be some bad PSIP data.

I completely forgot to call KSHV and tell them my problem and see what they say. Let me know what he lets you know and then I will give them a call about my problem.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-16-07, 05:14 PM
OK.

Also called KTAL.

"We had some problems and missed our target date after being HD for a short time." Duh!!!! "We are now aiming for mid February."

Ronald_Jeremy
01-16-07, 07:46 PM
Question to those in the know, why is the Today show on KTVE not in HD. KARK in Little Rock (normally) carries it in HD.

Also, anyone from the eastern Shreveport DMA picking up KTVE(DT), and how is the signal strength.I am in Bossier west side of Airline Drive and I can get mid 60's for KTVE but it drops ikn/out. I got a pic for about a minute then I lost signal and the 622 locked up.

Using channelmaster 4228 at 25 feet and amp.

SHergenrader
01-17-07, 09:51 AM
OK.

Also called KTAL.

"We had some problems and missed our target date after being HD for a short time." Duh!!!! "We are now aiming for mid February."

I also emailed them a few days ago and got the same answer. KTAL stinks.

ricknzoe
01-17-07, 12:50 PM
I also emailed them a few days ago and got the same answer. KTAL stinks.

I emailed them several days ago too, but they haven't even had the decency to email me back.

SHergenrader
01-17-07, 02:40 PM
I emailed them several days ago too, but they haven't even had the decency to email me back.

Yeah, it took a few days to get this email response:

We are currently broadcasting a low power SD signal on UHF 15 or 6.1 and are not passing any HD. We are in the process of completing our build out to full power HD and should be broadcasting in full power HD soon.

thanks for your patience.



Scott Thomas
VP/General Manager

KeithAR2002
01-18-07, 01:56 AM
Well that sounds like a Nexstar owned station. KARD, the FOX station in West Monroe, is owned by Nexstar, and they aren't scheduled to go full power/HD until mid 2008! It looks like KTAL may be headed in that direction. :rolleyes:

SHergenrader
01-18-07, 10:06 AM
Well that sounds like a Nexstar owned station. KARD, the FOX station in West Monroe, is owned by Nexstar, and they aren't scheduled to go full power/HD until mid 2008! It looks like KTAL may be headed in that direction. :rolleyes:

Mid 2008?!?! Just unreal. Nexstar stinks on ice.

Baralak
01-18-07, 11:52 AM
Go to www.nelageo.net/hdtvforum for BREAKING NEWS!

Steve_Smith
01-19-07, 06:01 AM
Last night I tuned 12.1 to check on Letterman in HD and it was SD instead. Is the problem with CBS or KSLA? I'm concerned because of the AFC title game coming up on Sunday afternoon.

ricknzoe
01-19-07, 11:17 AM
Last night I tuned 12.1 to check on Letterman in HD and it was SD instead. Is the problem with CBS or KSLA? I'm concerned because of the AFC title game coming up on Sunday afternoon.

I think I remember it being in HD last night. I'll check when I get home.

ricknzoe
01-19-07, 01:12 PM
I emailed them several days ago too, but they haven't even had the decency to email me back.

Finally got a response.....

Yes, HD was supposed to start by year end. However when we began testing our signal in early December we identified the need for some additional equipment. We are in a holding pattern waiting on a vendor to deliver. Hopefully, it won't be much longer.

Thanks for your patience.


Scott Thomas
VP/General Manager

SHergenrader
01-19-07, 03:08 PM
Finally got a response.....

Yes, HD was supposed to start by year end. However when we began testing our signal in early December we identified the need for some additional equipment. We are in a holding pattern waiting on a vendor to deliver. Hopefully, it won't be much longer.

Thanks for your patience.


Scott Thomas
VP/General Manager

It seems as if they have been in a holding pattern for months now. Ugh, KTAL stinks.

ricknzoe
01-19-07, 05:29 PM
I sent this to the Executive VP of Nexstar Broadcasting, the parent of KTAL:

Dear Sir:

KTAL, the NBC affiliate located in Shreveport, LA, still has not begun to broadcast in HD. Response from the station has been they are "in a holding pattern" waiting on equipment delivery from a vendor.

Do you have any insight into this matter? This station is the only one in the area not broadcasting in HD and frankly, it's reputation as a second tier organization continues to be reinforced. There have been recent upgrades to the news sets and personalities and in that respect, my opinions regarding KTAL have improved.

But, no HD really stinks.

Thanks in advance for your attention to this matter.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-19-07, 05:42 PM
LOL, they upgraded their sets? That is all they could do! They couldn't get any worse. Their old set looked like it was leftovers from the Brady Bunch!!!

ricknzoe
01-19-07, 05:52 PM
LOL, they upgraded their sets? That is all they could do! They couldn't get any worse. Their old set looked like it was leftovers from the Brady Bunch!!!

:D now that's funny!

ricknzoe
01-19-07, 05:56 PM
Maybe they have the professor from Gilligan's Island trying to broadcast an HD signal out of coconuts and Gilligan pedaling a bicycle to generate power. ;)

SHergenrader
01-20-07, 10:39 AM
LOL, they upgraded their sets? That is all they could do! They couldn't get any worse. Their old set looked like it was leftovers from the Brady Bunch!!!


Haha, so true

SHergenrader
01-22-07, 03:48 PM
Anybody able to pick up 45.1 or does anybody have any info on MyTV 45 when it will be in HD? I am still only getting 44.3 and 44.4. Anybody having the same problem?

Ronald_Jeremy
01-22-07, 10:07 PM
Hey Hergy, I finally ran an antenna lead to my new Sylvania LCD in the bedroom afew minutes ago and did a scan.

It picked up 44-1 and 44-2.

44-1 gets audio and video in 1080i. 44-2 is green screen with audio.

Tried my dish VIP 622 and when trying to add rf45 no signal.

When trying to add rf44 it gets good signal but bar is red and it won't lock.

On a side note, the Sylvania also has a built in analog tuner.

It picked up a bunch of weird stations. I think one was originating from the Branch Duronian compound!!!! :eek:

SHergenrader
01-22-07, 10:49 PM
Hey Hergy, I finally ran an antenna lead to my new Sylvania LCD in the bedroom afew minutes ago and did a scan.

It picked up 44-1 and 44-2.

44-1 gets audio and video in 1080i. 44-2 is green screen with audio.

Tried my dish VIP 622 and when trying to add rf45 no signal.

When trying to add rf44 it gets good signal but bar is red and it won't lock.

On a side note, the Sylvania also has a built in analog tuner.

It picked up a bunch of weird stations. I think one was originating from the Branch Duronian compound!!!! :eek:

Ok, I will try a rescan in a bit and see if it picks up 44.1 and 44.2. I'll let you know what happens.

KeithAR2002
01-22-07, 11:55 PM
Well that's a big plus that KSHV-DT is in HD. If the SHV market could get NBC in HD, it would be perfect. It's hard to find a market with MyNetwork TV in HD...look at the bright side... you might not be able to watch Conan of Leno in HD, but you can watch "Desire" and "Fashion House" in HD! LOL

skypimp
01-23-07, 06:52 AM
KSHV 45 was broadcasting in HD this past summer. When fall came, suddendly they stopped. Not really sure why, but there was nothing I wanted to see on that channel anyway.

SHergenrader
01-23-07, 01:42 PM
KSHV 45 was broadcasting in HD this past summer. When fall came, suddendly they stopped. Not really sure why, but there was nothing I wanted to see on that channel anyway.

Nothing to watch on KSHV? Just as Keith said above, how can you not want to watch Fashion House in HD?!?! lol. But seriously, I couldn't agree with you more.

simmonstwin
01-23-07, 05:31 PM
When KSHV was WB they used to broadcast in HD but now that it has turned into MY Network it no longer does. maybe some time in the future My Network will broadcast in HD.. Does anyone have a contact number that we can call, to see what is up with them???

On another note is anyone living in and around Shreveport able to get PBS Hd , does it even exist ??

thanks
simmonstwin

simmonstwin
01-23-07, 05:32 PM
Anybody able to pick up 45.1 or does anybody have any info on MyTV 45 when it will be in HD? I am still only getting 44.3 and 44.4. Anybody having the same problem?

channel 44.3 is their "HD" channel

ricknzoe
01-23-07, 10:54 PM
When KSHV was WB they used to broadcast in HD but now that it has turned into MY Network it no longer does. maybe some time in the future My Network will broadcast in HD.. Does anyone have a contact number that we can call, to see what is up with them???

On another note is anyone living in and around Shreveport able to get PBS Hd , does it even exist ??

thanks
simmonstwin

I live in SE Shreveport and yes, PBS HD is at channel 24-5 and looks great. I also get two or three other PBS channels.

simmonstwin
01-23-07, 11:32 PM
I live in SE Shreveport and yes, PBS HD is at channel 24-5 and looks great. I also get two or three other PBS channels.

hey rick can u give me the run down on all the channels avaliable OTA both analog and digital.. antenna web seems to be a bit dated..

thanks

SHergenrader
01-24-07, 11:02 AM
hey rick can u give me the run down on all the channels avaliable OTA both analog and digital.. antenna web seems to be a bit dated..

thanks

Here are all the channels OTA in Shreveport:

KTBS (ABC)
3.1 - ABC HD
3.2 - Radar
3.3 - Shows news broadcasts all day

KTAL (NBC)
6.1 - NBC HD (Isn't showing anything in HD yet though)

KSLA (CBS)
12.1 - CBS HD
12.2 - The Tube
12.3 - Weather

KPXJ (CW)
21.1 - CW HD
22.2 - Digital feed of KPXJ

KLTS (PBS)
24.1 - Digital feed of KLTS (I think)
24.3 - PBS Create
24.5 - PBS HD

KMSS (FOX)
33.1 - FOX HD

KSHV (MyTV)
44.1 - MyTV HD
44.2 - Just has a green screen

Hopefully this will help you out

ricknzoe
01-24-07, 12:42 PM
44.2 - Just has a green screen

I think this is 44.5 on my TV, but this looks like the list of what I get, plus a snowy QVC type station.

ricknzoe
01-24-07, 12:51 PM
KTAL (NBC)
6.1 - NBC HD (Isn't showing anything in HD yet though)

I can't pickup this signal by the way in SE Shreveport. :mad:

I've got the Channel Master 4221 in my attic now, but ordered the 4228 yesterday. Maybe it will make a difference. I also got it because the KXPJ stations pixilate from time to time.

simmonstwin
01-24-07, 02:51 PM
I can't pickup this signal by the way in SE Shreveport. :mad:

I've got the Channel Master 4221 in my attic now, but ordered the 4228 yesterday. Maybe it will make a difference. I also got it because the KXPJ stations pixilate from time to time.


thanks shergenader.. the list on atennaweb gives the wrong channel numbers. rick , i also live in the southeastern part of Shreveport and i am able to get all of the channels listed except for the PBS and NBC (although i know this one isnt running at full power yet) does your tv give you the signal strength of the reception from the towers to your tv? mine does and as of now i am getting 85+ signal strenght from aal channels but i still cant get pbs , is that tower in another direction? any advise?

KeithAR2002
01-24-07, 03:05 PM
simmon,

Here is the KLTS service map, they are operating at around 50kw... compare that to KTAL's 15kw. So it may take a little tweaking to get them, but it's definitely possible....I think all the LPB digitals in the state are at low power, until they decide to spend tax money on upgrading them.

http://i3.tinypic.com/43y24gx.gif

SHergenrader
01-24-07, 03:30 PM
thanks shergenader.. the list on atennaweb gives the wrong channel numbers. rick , i also live in the southeastern part of Shreveport and i am able to get all of the channels listed except for the PBS and NBC (although i know this one isnt running at full power yet) does your tv give you the signal strength of the reception from the towers to your tv? mine does and as of now i am getting 85+ signal strenght from aal channels but i still cant get pbs , is that tower in another direction? any advise?

I live about 5 to 6 miles from most of the towers. I can get all the channels except for NBC. Sometimes I can pick it up and other times I can't. Most of the towers are in Mooringsport but KTAL's tower is in Vivian and isn't running at full power yet. As for the signal strength, I get in the upper 90's simply because I'm so close to the towers. If you are getting in the 80's, that should be fine and normal. What kind of antenna are you using?

SHergenrader
01-24-07, 03:48 PM
I can't pickup this signal by the way in SE Shreveport. :mad:

I've got the Channel Master 4221 in my attic now, but ordered the 4228 yesterday. Maybe it will make a difference. I also got it because the KXPJ stations pixilate from time to time.

I've heard alot of good things about the 4228. Maybe R.J. can tell you about the 4228. I know he has it. I'm not sure if he can pick up NBC or not. He lives in Bossier I think. Right now though, KTAL isn't broadcasting in HD so if you can't get it don't stress too much about it. They should, and I use that term loosely, lol, be broadcasting in HD at full power "soon". Anytime me or anybody else on here emails them about it they write back with a vague answer.

simmonstwin
01-24-07, 04:05 PM
I live about 5 to 6 miles from most of the towers. I can get all the channels except for NBC. Sometimes I can pick it up and other times I can't. Most of the towers are in Mooringsport but KTAL's tower is in Vivian and isn't running at full power yet. As for the signal strength, I get in the upper 90's simply because I'm so close to the towers. If you are getting in the 80's, that should be fine and normal. What kind of antenna are you using?

just a regular bunny ear antenna from walmart.. i have an outdoor antenna that i had recently lent to my brother , so i am going to give that one ago sometime this weekend.

SHergenrader
01-24-07, 04:34 PM
just a regular bunny ear antenna from walmart.. i have an outdoor antenna that i had recently lent to my brother , so i am going to give that one ago sometime this weekend.

Yeah, try the outdoor antenna. If you are getting that good of reception with a little indoor antenna you should get great reception with an outdoor antenna.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-24-07, 04:44 PM
I am happy with the 4228. I have an amp on it and can get KTAL. I did have to rotate to the right of all of the other towers to pull it in though. Took a little hit on the signal strength of the other stations but nothing significant.

Mick61
01-24-07, 05:43 PM
I don't think you could find a better antenna than the CM4228...especially with a pre-amp. I'm getting good signal strength with mine from the north side of Texarkana with it. About 88-93 at night...and about 78-85 in the daytime. I did have some problems weekend-before-last trying to pull in the football game on that Saturday when that huge storm came through...but that's the only time I have lost a signal. Back when KTAL was working, I was getting a low signal (56-65) from their low-power tower...and of course now I get nothing from them at all.

ricknzoe
01-24-07, 06:01 PM
I am happy with the 4228. I have an amp on it and can get KTAL. I did have to rotate to the right of all of the other towers to pull it in though. Took a little hit on the signal strength of the other stations but nothing significant.

I can get everything but KTAL now. Should I try an amp now, or just wait until KTAL goes full power and see if I can bring it in then?

ricknzoe
01-24-07, 08:03 PM
rick , i also live in the southeastern part of Shreveport and i am able to get all of the channels listed except for the PBS and NBC (although i know this one isnt running at full power yet) does your tv give you the signal strength of the reception from the towers to your tv? mine does and as of now i am getting 85+ signal strenght from aal channels but i still cant get pbs , is that tower in another direction? any advise?

Here's what I'm getting in SE Shreveport with the CM4221 in my attic.
3.1,2,3 82%
6.1 Nada, zip, zilch
12.1, 2, 3 82%
21.1, 2 fluctuates from low 40%'s to low 60%'s
25.1, 3, 5 82% (These are the PBS stations)
31 ? some religious programming
33.1 88%
44.3 88%
44.4 88% green screen only
45 ?
50 ?snowy, black and white, infomercials and QVC type programming
67 ? very snowy, intermittent sound

i49mobile
01-24-07, 10:56 PM
FYI- I live in North Bossier-- I put a $29 Radio Shack antenna in my attic with my old 75omh amp from Cox cable connected to it. It is pulling based on signal strength from my Direct tv HD-DVR signal meter

KTBS 3-1 93
KTAL 6-1 not receiving tonight usually get high 50s
KSLA 12-1 83
KPXJ 21-1 100
KTLS 24-1 97
KMSS 33-1 96
KSHV 45-1 84

FYI-- John at Barrett Appliance -- he is a great plasma and LCD seller/installer- (I think the best in Shreveport/Bossier). He is extremely knowledgeable on HDTV will have a display showing HDTV at the Homebuilders show this weekend inside the Shreveport convention center using an over the air antenna--
last year the antenna he had worked until the convention filled with people, then did not work, people left he got a signal-- this year he is using a much bigger antenna with all of the metal, people, etc inside the building.

SHergenrader
01-26-07, 09:51 AM
I can get everything but KTAL now. Should I try an amp now, or just wait until KTAL goes full power and see if I can bring it in then?

I would just wait until they go to full power and see if you are able to pick it up without an amp.

ken984
01-26-07, 10:56 AM
KSHV is run from the KMSS studios, so I would call KMSS and see if they can tell you anything about programming in HD.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-26-07, 03:46 PM
Well I finally watched My Name is Earl in HD!!!!! :D

It is good to have NBC in HD finally.

SHergenrader
01-27-07, 12:13 AM
Well I finally watched My Name is Earl in HD!!!!! :D

It is good to have NBC in HD finally.

So are you telling me that KTAL is broadcasting in HD finally?

Ronald_Jeremy
01-27-07, 12:24 AM
No. I 'moved' and now get another market's HD locals over the satellite as well as S'port locals OTA. Except for KTAL in HD.

I hear that KTAL has now set their goal for HD for the 2008 Presidential Inauguration.


KTAL sucks monkey balls. And I no longer need them!!!!!!

KeithAR2002
01-27-07, 02:53 AM
RJ, which city did you "move" to? I "moved" to Mena, AR a few months back, and currently get LR Locals in SD, and the NYC HD networks... it's definitely a big plus to have DNS, because, on the NY networks at least, they don't ever splash weather graphics/election results all over the screen.... and one doesn't have to worry about the switch not being flipped :rolleyes:

OTA HD still looks better, but when you have some locals that refuse to upgrade, it's almost as if they are asking us to stop watching them in favor of an out of market channel.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-27-07, 05:31 AM
If you can get the 129 satellite, you can move to any market that has HD locals as they are all broadcast to the CONUS instead of being on spotbeams.

Check here for what is available.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish129.html

Edit: No offense, but they must have thought you were nuts for 'moving' to Mena!! :D

JRT2006
01-27-07, 10:18 AM
dedicated shreveport/bossier thread. didnt expect that here. Barksdale AFB here, just got my new 50' SXRD 1080p 3 days ago. waiting for the satellite man to hook up the new HD equipment. I'm having alot of trouble finding AVIA in stores locally. Anybody know where to find them other than online?

I'm happy with my picture but after further reading through the posts for the A2000, i begin to wonder if I'm getting what i bought. I hear all this mess about LPF and overscan, and am really concerned now. Any of you local guys really good with calibrating or know of a local professional i can hire?

Much appreciated.

SHergenrader
01-27-07, 05:08 PM
dedicated shreveport/bossier thread. didnt expect that here. Barksdale AFB here, just got my new 50' SXRD 1080p 3 days ago. waiting for the satellite man to hook up the new HD equipment. I'm having alot of trouble finding AVIA in stores locally. Anybody know where to find them other than online?

I'm happy with my picture but after further reading through the posts for the A2000, i begin to wonder if I'm getting what i bought. I hear all this mess about LPF and overscan, and am really concerned now. Any of you local guys really good with calibrating or know of a local professional i can hire?

Much appreciated.

Welcome to the forum. As to calibrating I have no clue about that. I'm certain that somebody on here can help you or point you in the right direction. Enjoy the HD. It's great.

i49mobile
01-27-07, 08:42 PM
Has anyone had any issues with KSLA and their OTA signal today? I have been averaging strong 80's and 90's with the signal meter on my Direct TV HD-DVR and I still am averaging 80s and 90s on everything but KSLA and of course, KTAL. At times my Direct TV HD-DVR will search for KSLA's signal and I notice the signal coming and going.

JRT2006
01-27-07, 09:27 PM
I'm pretty noobish at the tv stuff. I've read through out the forum and have seen the settings. I understand that i can buy DVE or AVIA and calibrate my TV to the likings of my eye. But i also read stuff that peope do through the service menu. I checked out the service menu and accessed it with the steps provided, scanned through it and then left. It seems pretty simple if following somebody elses directions. Well, i have a Sony KDS-50A2000, if anybody so happens to stumble upon some tweaks or good settings before i do, please fill me in.

As far as the OTA signals with Directv, i bought the reciever and got an antenna, but right now I am waiting for the DirecTv people to come and install the new dish. If i have the HD reciever set-up with the antenna connected can i still recieve channels with my old dish? Can i still pick up local HD channels with the antenna hooked to the HD reciever with the old dish? I'm hoping to try to atleast get to watch the SB because i don't think the dish will be in by then.

ken984
01-27-07, 10:58 PM
Is the receiver activated on your account? If its not activated I doubt it will work at all, they used to work no matter what the activation was but they "fixed" all that. If you have a dish up just call and activate it, then you can watch all the OTA stuff after you download the new firmware that will make the OTA tuners work.

JRT2006
01-27-07, 11:23 PM
the reciever isnt activated yet, i have to pay the past due amount first. Firmware updates download automatically or do i have to initiate it?

KeithAR2002
01-28-07, 04:07 AM
If you can get the 129 satellite, you can move to any market that has HD locals as they are all broadcast to the CONUS instead of being on spotbeams.

Check here for what is available.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish129.html

Edit: No offense, but they must have thought you were nuts for 'moving' to Mena!! :D

Well unfortunately I'm with Directv, so I don't think it would be possible for me to get any other HD locals except for NYC. I just moved to Mena because the entire zipcode had a blanket waiver from the LR stations, so any address automatically qualfies for DNS from NY. I played dumb when the CSR said "well guess what? you're qualified for all the DNS feeds" and responded with "well I thought there was something up when I couldn't get anything with an antenna" :rolleyes: I'm sure they know we're all "moving"... there's so many people in the LR DMA that have "moved" to Mena, that Mena should be the size of Little Rock as far as D* subscribers go!

ricknzoe
01-28-07, 09:40 AM
Has anyone had any issues with KSLA and their OTA signal today? I have been averaging strong 80's and 90's with the signal meter on my Direct TV HD-DVR and I still am averaging 80s and 90s on everything but KSLA and of course, KTAL. At times my Direct TV HD-DVR will search for KSLA's signal and I notice the signal coming and going.

no problems with KSLA, but I've lost the PBS's. Anyone else?

jrwash
01-28-07, 11:09 AM
I also live in North Texarkana (Sugar Hill).
I finally installed a CM 4228 with the CM 7775 pre-amp. I used chimney mounts with 25' of mast that extends to a pad mount on the ground for more stability. It puts the antenna at around 9' above my SS chimney cap.
The only thing I might have done differently was go with a 1.5" dia. mast versus the 1.25" Radio Shack mast. Although the RS mast is 16 gauge versus the 18 gauge stuff that the building supply chains sell. I also secured all joints with screws. Very stable overall. Hint: Check with your Sat installer about getting custom lengths of RG-6 coax made-up for your D-I-Y installation. Superior quality cable and connectors, and a much lower price than the stuff offered by the chains.
Signal strength is running consistently in the 87-91 range on KTBS and KSLA.
FOX and KTAL run 86-89. The other channels (10 in all) are running in the same range. The HD channels are amazing on my Sony KDS-60A2000 RPTV. The Dish VIP-622 Sat receiver really takes all the guess work out of the final adjustments.

ricknzoe
01-28-07, 04:58 PM
no problems with KSLA, but I've lost the PBS's. Anyone else?

Now, KSLA is going in and out, along with PBS. Is it just me? :confused:

SHergenrader
01-28-07, 05:23 PM
Now, KSLA is going in and out, along with PBS. Is it just me? :confused:

Both channels are fine for me.

ricknzoe
01-28-07, 05:57 PM
Both channels are fine for me.

:mad:

KeithAR2002
01-29-07, 02:04 AM
It's odd that I've only got KSLA-DT one time from El Dorado... while I get KTBS, KPXJ, and KMSS the majority of the time.They're operating at a lower power than a normal full power operation, at 175kw...as compared to KTBS and the rest, which are at 1000kw. Why would they be operating at such a lower level?

SHergenrader
01-29-07, 09:59 AM
It's odd that I've only got KSLA-DT one time from El Dorado... while I get KTBS, KPXJ, and KMSS the majority of the time.They're operating at a lower power than a normal full power operation, at 175kw...as compared to KTBS and the rest, which are at 1000kw. Why would they be operating at such a lower level?

That's strange. I have no clue why they would broadcast at such a low power. Have you tried calling or emailing KSLA?

ken984
01-29-07, 05:33 PM
the reciever isnt activated yet, i have to pay the past due amount first. Firmware updates download automatically or do i have to initiate it?

When you connect it to the satellite feed it SHOULD automatically look for new software, howver if it doesn't you can tell it to look, hit the red reset button next to the card slot, and when the blue lights on the ring on the front panel light, hit 0 2 4 6 8 on the remote, dont have to do it fast just make sure you hit those and only those, it will say welcome, powering up, then the next screen should say New software found and list your version and the new version. After another reboot it will be ready to go.

Ronald_Jeremy
01-29-07, 05:35 PM
dedicated shreveport/bossier thread. didnt expect that here. Barksdale AFB here, just got my new 50' SXRD 1080p 3 days ago. waiting for the satellite man to hook up the new HD equipment. I'm having alot of trouble finding AVIA in stores locally. Anybody know where to find them other than online?
Nope, when I bought it a couple of years ago, I couldn't find it anywhere in town. Ended up getting it from bestbuy online.

If you get it from flea bay and it is used, make sure it has the color swatches with it.

I would let you use my copy but I sold it. Didn't do me a bit of good. It is a great product but my TV remembers the settings for each input. Well I use the HDMI input and my DVD player doesn't output by hdmi. The main thing you can do is turn down the brightness and contrast to get it out of factory burnout mode.

Also, I have never checked it out, but HDNET runs test patterns real early on certain mornings for viewers to callibrate their TV's. So you may want to record that. Not sure which settings they cover though.

Next showing is Sunday Feb 4, at 5:50 AM Central

I may check it out.

http://www.hd.net/program_search_results.html?keyword=test&whattosearch=both

KeithAR2002
01-29-07, 06:01 PM
That's strange. I have no clue why they would broadcast at such a low power. Have you tried calling or emailing KSLA?


I emailed them about it, and they said that their current power emulates their analog signal. I don't think that's correct, because on the maps, it looks like the digital signal falls short of the analog coverage by a good 15-20 miles. They don't have any palns to increase power, either... I thought it was a little crazy.

SHergenrader
01-29-07, 06:13 PM
I emailed them about it, and they said that their current power emulates their analog signal. I don't think that's correct, because on the maps, it looks like the digital signal falls short of the analog coverage by a good 15-20 miles. They don't have any palns to increase power, either... I thought it was a little crazy.

I could be wrong in saying this but I think that the analog signal should travel further than the digital signal. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's accurate.

KeithAR2002
01-29-07, 06:32 PM
I think I remember reading that the FCC requires all digital signals to be the same coverage as the analog signal... for example, I'll compare KTBS-TV and KTBS-DT -


Here is the coverage for KTBS-TV CH3

http://i9.tinypic.com/2r55ged.gif

And here is KTBS-DT CH28

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT615663.gif

They're almost equal... The DT channel is operating at 1000kw, which is suppose to be conisdered 100% power... this is the kind of coverage area KSLA-DT needs, but they barely reach to Magnolia! :rolleyes:

Ronald_Jeremy
01-29-07, 08:22 PM
I'm sure there is verbage that will allow them to be within a certain percentage of their analog coverage. Say less than 5%. And that certainly looks like less than 5% difference.

I mean it is a government reg!! :p Like the new labeling for transfats. It can still have trans fats in it and be allowed to label itself as 0% transfat.

Where I grew up, 0 means 0. :cool:

SHergenrader
01-30-07, 09:26 AM
I think I remember reading that the FCC requires all digital signals to be the same coverage as the analog signal... for example, I'll compare KTBS-TV and KTBS-DT -


Here is the coverage for KTBS-TV CH3

http://i9.tinypic.com/2r55ged.gif

And here is KTBS-DT CH28

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT615663.gif

They're almost equal... The DT channel is operating at 1000kw, which is suppose to be conisdered 100% power... this is the kind of coverage area KSLA-DT needs, but they barely reach to Magnolia! :rolleyes:

Thanks alot Keith, I wasn't sure what the correct answer was.

SHergenrader
01-30-07, 02:13 PM
Hey Keith, by the way, where do you find these coverage area maps?

Ronald_Jeremy
01-30-07, 02:37 PM
The second picture's url is

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT615663.gif

So he is getting them from the FCC.

KeithAR2002
01-30-07, 02:47 PM
I use this site here-

http://radiostationworld.com/Locations/United_States_of_America/usastates.asp

Which will give you info on any TV station in the country, including the FCC coverage maps, etc. It's pretty neat, and I use it as a reference guide all the time. You can even look up KTAL and see the map for their flea-powered DT transmitter :)

SHergenrader
01-30-07, 03:59 PM
I use this site here-

http://radiostationworld.com/Locations/United_States_of_America/usastates.asp

Which will give you info on any TV station in the country, including the FCC coverage maps, etc. It's pretty neat, and I use it as a reference guide all the time. You can even look up KTAL and see the map for their flea-powered DT transmitter :)

Thanks alot, I always see those coverage maps but I had no idea where to find them.

i49mobile
01-30-07, 11:46 PM
I noticed on Sunday as I reported in the SHV forum that my OTA reception had gotten really bad, now I know the rest of the story--- My three week old Direct TV HD-DVR has crashed and burned- I turned off my power on Saturday to have electrical work done, so the power off caused the D* TV box to reboot setting their new firmware downloaded on 1/23 into place, so then the OTA did not work well, tonight the box would not let me watch one program and record another, then the HDMI output went out. I will get the new box on Friday.

KeithAR2002
01-31-07, 02:16 AM
I'm thinking of getting one of the HR20s, but if they have all the problems I've been reading about, I may just pass. I've been pretty lucky; I've had the same H20 receiver since May without it dying! It does freeze up after being on a while, and it runs as hot as an oven, but I'm thankful it hasn't died yet (knock on wood)

KeithAR2002
01-31-07, 02:20 AM
Thanks alot, I always see those coverage maps but I had no idea where to find them.


They come in very handy, especially when it comes to doing research. It's nice when I am picking up distant stations, because then I can check their coverage map to see exactly how far the signal is travelling to get to me. One thing I have noticed, though, is they are pretty accurate. Once you get out of the blue circle, reliable reception is a crap-shoot.

SHergenrader
02-01-07, 09:52 AM
I believe KTAL is broadcasting in HD now. I was at my girlfriends house last night and came across KTAL HD. She has Comcast cable. I haven't had a chance to go to my house and check the OTA feed to make sure KTAL was in HD but I was watching The Tonight Show in HD last night and then this morning Today was in HD. Can anybody confirm this?

ken984
02-01-07, 11:20 AM
So far my HR20 has been great, it has frozen up one time since i got it, and i download all the "beta" firmware to play with it. I think its a combination of some people having a bad box and it also seems from the forums that having mpeg4 locals does have a negative effect on the box for some users. I think they will iron out the rest of these issues fairly quickly, they are releasing new builds at a high rate these days.

Steve_Smith
02-01-07, 01:43 PM
I'm not receiving KTAL at this time, nor could I get it last night. My friend who has Time Warner cable called me, excited to be finally getting NBC in HD. (Just in time to miss football season.) I think they are not yet full power. I was getting them before, during the Saints - Cowboys Monday Night Football game.

SHergenrader
02-01-07, 02:53 PM
I'm not receiving KTAL at this time, nor could I get it last night. My friend who has Time Warner cable called me, excited to be finally getting NBC in HD. (Just in time to miss football season.) I think they are not yet full power. I was getting them before, during the Saints - Cowboys Monday Night Football game.

Ok, whenever I get home this evening I will see if I am able to get NBC in HD OTA. I'll let you know what happens.

simmonstwin
02-01-07, 03:45 PM
i am getting KTAL 6-1 OTA now. but it seems to be broadcasting in 480i .. so does that mean that it wont be broadcasting in HD during tonights shows? As of now it seems that it is running as a repeat sub-channel like 21-2 CW...

Also is anyone else geting 45-1?? i can get 44-3 which seems to be digital channel for MNT but i am not 100% sure that this the actual HD subchannel for it.

Simmons

ricknzoe
02-01-07, 06:43 PM
OK, out with the old CM4221, in with the new CM4228. Rescanned, and low and behold, there is 6-1. Signal strength in SE Shreveport in mid 70's. The news is definetly not HD, but The Office and My Name is Earl are on tonight, will they be in HD???? We'll see.

FYI, KTBS & KSLA in low 80's, FOX and KXPJ mid 90's, PBS high 60's

ricknzoe
02-01-07, 08:20 PM
The news is definetly not HD, but The Office and My Name is Earl are on tonight, will they be in HD???? We'll see.

Nope, no HD. :(

simmonstwin
02-01-07, 08:26 PM
Nope, no HD. :(


Yup.. so sad

Ronald_Jeremy
02-01-07, 10:19 PM
Yup.. so sadJust checked myself as well.

KTAL showing ER in SD.

Nashville NBC affiliate showing ER in HD.

KTAL is the third world country of the ArkLaTex!!! :cool:

But we have always known this. Nothing new. I hear they are gonna go with that new-fangeled tv in Technicolor next week!!!! :D

KeithAR2002
02-02-07, 05:36 AM
Well, since they were in HD during the Saints/Cowboys game, we know they have the capability of broadcasting in HD. Why aren't they doing it now? Even though they are low power, a low power HD signal would be better than a low power SD signal! The Little Rock NBC affiliate (also owned by Nexstar) broadcasted in HD before they went to full power. It's like they are doing all of this on purpose. They really look like a bunch of idiots after posting that letter on their website talking about "we'll be in HD by Dec. 1st" and then "well maybe you can all watch the ball drop in HD" and now there's nothing posted on there! They just don't want to pay the power bill, plain and simple. I would hate to work for a cheap compny like that, and I feel sorry for all the people that do work for them :(

Steve_Smith
02-02-07, 05:56 AM
I must not have my antenna aimed correctly. I was receiving them fine in December. Now I only get 25% intermittently and a picture that freezes and megablocks.

SHergenrader
02-02-07, 10:03 AM
i am getting KTAL 6-1 OTA now. but it seems to be broadcasting in 480i .. so does that mean that it wont be broadcasting in HD during tonights shows? As of now it seems that it is running as a repeat sub-channel like 21-2 CW...

Also is anyone else geting 45-1?? i can get 44-3 which seems to be digital channel for MNT but i am not 100% sure that this the actual HD subchannel for it.

Simmons

On one of my TVs I get 44.3 which is a SD version of 45, and 44.4, which is just a green screen. On another one of my TVs I get 44.1 and 44.2. Nothing is ever in HD on KSHV.

ken984
02-02-07, 11:50 AM
The ONE good thing I can say about KTAL is that one night when they were doing HD it looked VERY GOOD. So one year in the distant future when they finally get around to it, we should have a nice picture from them.
Unless this delay is really to install multicasting equipment so they can screw the signal over, which with their history is a distinct possibility.

windham9
02-02-07, 01:45 PM
The ONE good thing I can say about KTAL is that one night when they were doing HD it looked VERY GOOD. So one year in the distant future when they finally get around to it, we should have a nice picture from them.
Unless this delay is really to install multicasting equipment so they can screw the signal over, which with their history is a distinct possibility.

2-3 useless subchannels to rob bandwidth from NBC's 1080i, KTAL don't do it!
1080i sports really needs the FULL 19.2 Mbps!!!
Motion artifacts and macroblocking make HD no better than snowy analog!
Spending the big bucks for HD and wasting the bandwidth on unwatched subchannels, not cool.
At least turn off the "sukchannels" when the primary is in HD!!!!
NBC56 KETK has 1 sc, primary ch looks good, but could be better on a large display w/o the sc.

SHergenrader
02-02-07, 02:00 PM
The ONE good thing I can say about KTAL is that one night when they were doing HD it looked VERY GOOD. So one year in the distant future when they finally get around to it, we should have a nice picture from them.
Unless this delay is really to install multicasting equipment so they can screw the signal over, which with their history is a distinct possibility.

I was watching KTAL HD on Comcast cable and the HD quality did look really good. I didn't get to see the Saints/Cowboys game so I don't know how it looked at that time, but the Tonight Show looked great and so did My Name is Earl last night on NBC.

Ronald_Jeremy
02-02-07, 02:22 PM
Good news for us Dish people.

Dish uplinked the guide data the other day for the sub channels so we now get guide data for sub channels on 3, 12, and 24.

ricknzoe
02-03-07, 11:11 PM
Still no HD, sure glad the SB isn't on NBC! But, at least we have a signal now.

I put a splitter on my OTA cable and have connected directly to both my TV and DirecTV Tivo box. Slightly better picture OTA but now have the guide on D* Tivo.

Steve_Smith
02-04-07, 08:51 AM
KTAL still 35-40% despite meticulous aiming with compass.

Re: HR20: I got mine a couple of weeks ago. It had some glitches but proceeded to download three software updates since then and has been nothing short of wonderful since then.

I bought a Winegard indoor powered hd antenna from solid signal last week and installed it at my camp on Cross Lake. I'm getting every digital channel out there. The antenna is in a cabinet above the tv. Unreal.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=SS3000

windham9
02-05-07, 10:13 PM
KTAL still 35-40% despite meticulous aiming with compass.

Re: HR20: I got mine a couple of weeks ago. It had some glitches but proceeded to download three software updates since then and has been nothing short of wonderful since then.

I bought a Winegard indoor powered hd antenna from solid signal last week and installed it at my camp on Cross Lake. I'm getting every digital channel out there. The antenna is in a cabinet above the tv. Unreal.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=SS3000

I can get KTAL's 15KW signal on occasion at 60+ miles, but untill they go 1MW, KETK is good to have!

Ronald_Jeremy
02-07-07, 01:49 PM
Have any of you noticed lower signal quality on 12-1 since they added 12-3?

I am starting to see more and more macro blocking in fast action sequences. They can't be splitting off too much bandwidth for 12-2 and 12-3 as the picture is terrible on both of those channels but it seems to be noticeable on 12-1.

SHergenrader
02-07-07, 02:11 PM
Have any of you noticed lower signal quality on 12-1 since they added 12-3?

I am starting to see more and more macro blocking in fast action sequences. They can't be splitting off too much bandwidth for 12-2 and 12-3 as the picture is terrible on both of those channels but it seems to be noticeable on 12-1.

Yeah, I do notice it occasionally which did seem to start whenever they added 12.3. I'm actuallly surprised that it started after adding that channel because as you said the picture quality on 12.2 and 12.3 absolutely stinks so those channels aren't consuming much bandwidth.

simmonstwin
02-07-07, 04:33 PM
is Jeopardy (ABC 4:30pm) supposed to be in HD? It is listed on TvTitan as so and there were promos running saying that it was going to start begin broadcasted as so. But i am not getting it in HD. Do I need to just call the station up?

KeithAR2002
02-07-07, 05:30 PM
I'm thinking that TitanTV just gets things wrong...Jeopardy! is available in HD, but very few stations actually broadcast it in HD, because most stations don't have HD time-shifting capability yet. I wouldn't count on them having it for a while :(

Youngerberry
02-07-07, 09:16 PM
Good news for us Dish people.

Dish uplinked the guide data the other day for the sub channels so we now get guide data for sub channels on 3, 12, and 24.


Are you still getting the sub channels on 3, 12 and 24? I had them for a couple of days but now they are gone.

Youngerberry

Ronald_Jeremy
02-08-07, 09:43 AM
I forgot to post back. I am getting the sub channels but no guide data anymore.

Dish uplinked them on the 31st then pulled the data two days later. Not sure why they did that!

digiblur
02-08-07, 09:46 AM
I forgot to post back. I am getting the sub channels but no guide data anymore.

Dish uplinked them on the 31st then pulled the data two days later. Not sure why they did that!

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=805875&postcount=7

SHergenrader
02-08-07, 09:55 AM
is Jeopardy (ABC 4:30pm) supposed to be in HD? It is listed on TvTitan as so and there were promos running saying that it was going to start begin broadcasted as so. But i am not getting it in HD. Do I need to just call the station up?

I was wondering the same thing myself last week. I saw where TitanTV says it's in HD but it isn't on KTBS. If you call the station post what they say. I would like to know.

windham9
02-08-07, 11:43 AM
Have any of you noticed lower signal quality on 12-1 since they added 12-3?

I am starting to see more and more macro blocking in fast action sequences. They can't be splitting off too much bandwidth for 12-2 and 12-3 as the picture is terrible on both of those channels but it seems to be noticeable on 12-1.

Multicasting takes away from the 19.2 Mbps bandwidth. 1080i (CBS & NBC) really needs the full 19.2 for sports. CBS even says so. See the link.


http://www.tvpredictions.com/cbs020207.htm

Ronald_Jeremy
02-08-07, 12:43 PM
I was wondering the same thing myself last week. I saw where TitanTV says it's in HD but it isn't on KTBS. If you call the station post what they say. I would like to know.The post below that answered. It is a time-shifting problem. Shows like Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune are syndicated and are not always shown locally at the time they are transmitted to affiliates. Say the show comes in to the station overnight and KTBS schedules it to show at 4:00PM. Well they don't have the necessary equipment to record it in HD and then rebroadcast it in HD. They can do it in SD though. They already have that equipment. Very few stations have the necessary HD equipment for this. I think I read where this capability is pretty much limited to the top 15 markets in the country. They are the only ones with the ad revenues to allow them to make the investment.

ken984
02-08-07, 04:59 PM
Charlie is busy trying to come up with another fee to hit you with to get subchannel data...LOL.

ken984
02-08-07, 05:03 PM
You are correct on that, but I would put some $ on it that KTBS will be the first station locally to have the ability to do it, they don't scrimp on equipment.

As far as the multicasting, I emailed with the engineer at KSLA a year or 2 ago about it and begged him to tell the managers NOT to do it. Unfortunately he was in the frame of mind that 12-14 Mb was PLENTY of bandwidth for a full 1080i stream. I tried to reason with him but he was towing the company line. Basically said we were all nuts for paying to watch tv when we could see plenty of it for free.

SHergenrader
02-08-07, 05:15 PM
You are correct on that, but I would put some $ on it that KTBS will be the first station locally to have the ability to do it, they don't scrimp on equipment.

I would have to agree with you there.

Ronald_Jeremy
02-08-07, 05:15 PM
I sent an email to the GM about it and he told me they are constantly tweaking their signal and he was forwarding it to the chief engineer.

SHergenrader
02-08-07, 05:17 PM
Is anybody receiving any HD programming from KTAL OTA yet?

ricknzoe
02-08-07, 08:03 PM
Is anybody receiving any HD programming from KTAL OTA yet?

Not me. And, the VP of Nexstar has never responded to my email asking him for an anticipated date for HD since the locals would only say they were "in a holding pattern waiting for equipment".

SHergenrader
02-09-07, 10:09 AM
Not me. And, the VP of Nexstar has never responded to my email asking him for an anticipated date for HD since the locals would only say they were "in a holding pattern waiting for equipment".


What I don't understand as I said in an earlier post, my girlfriend has Comcast cable and they have KTAL HD and show HD programs on that channel. Why are people with cable able to watch NBC HD but OTA we can't?

simmonstwin
02-09-07, 01:39 PM
Well I just spoke with Scott Thomas who just happens to be th VP/Manager over at NBC KTAL. He said that all the equipment is ready and setup, and that they are just waiting for FCC approval before they start with the HD broadcast. This COULD happen any day now, but knowing how slow they work , I wont be holding my breath.

Simmons

Ronald_Jeremy
02-09-07, 02:08 PM
What I don't understand as I said in an earlier post, my girlfriend has Comcast cable and they have KTAL HD and show HD programs on that channel. Why are people with cable able to watch NBC HD but OTA we can't?It all depends on how Comcast is getting the signal. My bet is it is bounced off a satellite. KTAL could still do that in HD even if they have a problem with their over-the-air transmitter.

As for KTAL being set and waiting on FCC approval, I call BS. I'll believe it when I see it.

Veritas0Aequitas
02-09-07, 06:35 PM
I recently hooked up my long range outdoor scanner antenna (which is 35 feet above house) to my new Samsung LN-S2651D LCD tv seeing what OTA signals I could pickup in my area (Keithville) . I am picking up clearly all the available signals in my area 30+ miles out. One thing I noticed was that CBS HD isnt showing up correctly of sorts. Heres a picture of what im talking about.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/Veritas0Aequitas/b5ab41c2.jpg


Is anyone else having this problem in the area?

simmonstwin
02-10-07, 01:40 AM
did cbs 12-1 and the other sub channels go out for everyone else? I am normally able to get them very easily...

KeithAR2002
02-10-07, 02:38 AM
Is anyone else having this problem in the area?


I saw this exact problem while messing around with a Samsung at Best Buy a couple weeks ago. I noticed that any Samsung I looked at, it had that sound problem with KSLA (CBS). It has to be something wrong with the Samsung, because all other models looked normal. You might want to take the tv back to where ever you got it, and get them to test out another Samsung... I'd be willing to say it'll have the same problem.

Note - the only Samsung that had this problem was one of the 32" models.. the other sizes were okay.

edit- this is the model (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7675697&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050039&id=1134702498462) that had the problem at Best Buy.

ricknzoe
02-10-07, 10:39 AM
did cbs 12-1 and the other sub channels go out for everyone else? I am normally able to get them very easily...

KSLA is fine for me. I've never seen anything like the picture, wierd.

Veritas0Aequitas
02-10-07, 03:49 PM
I will visit the local BB to see if I can duplicate the result on my same model they have. It will be difficult to take my tv back to where I purchased it from since I got it while I lived in NY. Either way this would fall under the category of Samsung repairing / replacing it correct?

Steve_Smith
02-10-07, 04:30 PM
It looks like a set top box is trying to push a 1080i signal to a 720p display. Is that possible? Is that the problem? ...Or is it just JACKED UP?

mp3trojan
02-11-07, 12:16 PM
Moving to Shreveport next week and I currently have D* at home in TX. I was looking at the lineup for TWC/Comcast...whatever it is here. and it looks like I will definitely be getting a significant upgrade in channels, HD PQ, and internet service. I will be living in the Southern Hills section on Walker Rd. Anyone have any comments, good or bad? I have a south facing balcony but there is a pine tree right there. But I think I can shoot the birds through it.

Tell me all about it.

mp3trojan
02-11-07, 12:44 PM
I'll also be getting a HD DVR. Can anyone tell me what it's like in comparison to the HR10-250?

Better, worse??

Tell me all.

windham9
02-12-07, 10:35 AM
I recently hooked up my long range outdoor scanner antenna (which is 35 feet above house) to my new Samsung LN-S2651D LCD tv seeing what OTA signals I could pickup in my area (Keithville) . I am picking up clearly all the available signals in my area 30+ miles out. One thing I noticed was that CBS HD isnt showing up correctly of sorts. Heres a picture of what im talking about.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/Veritas0Aequitas/b5ab41c2.jpg


Is anyone else having this problem in the area?

Had a cheap RCA 52" ($894 at walmart) last year. Issues with KSLA, left side had a 2" wide vertical strip that was a mirror image of a strip to the right, the messed up edge strip also had a horizontal green line in the middle. CBS 19 KETK and all others were perfect. I returned the set, but feel it was a KSLA issue. The whole time my Sony xbr9700 was perfect on kSLA sitting next to the RCA. Weird.

vwinterr
02-12-07, 12:39 PM
I'll also be getting a HD DVR. Can anyone tell me what it's like in comparison to the HR10-250?

Better, worse??

Tell me all.


I unplugged my HR10 yesterday.... of course my initial reaction isn't good, but I'll give it some time before I bash the tw box...

I read up on it before jumping ship, and the simple gripe is the same one you read many places saying "tivo > dvr"... just on usability/functionality...

as for your location... if you were questioning TW, and considering OTA you shouldn't have any problems...

Veritas0Aequitas
02-13-07, 06:17 PM
Have not had a chance to go to BB yet but plan to later this week. I checked 44-3 in 1080i fine and 24-5 LPB HD in 1080i also fine. 12-1 KSLA seems to be the only one that screws up. Also this is OTA could that be an possible issue with it? You mentioned you saw the same exact thing at BB do you happen to remember was it OTA or digital cable? I also saw some old posts on the local forum of people calling / emailing local stations when they were broadcasting in HD, anyone have any contact info for KSLA?

simmonstwin
02-13-07, 07:12 PM
[QUOTE=Veritas0Aequitas]Have not had a chance to go to BB yet but plan to later this week. I checked 44-3 in 1080i fine and 24-5 LPB HD in 1080i also fine. 12-1 KSLA seems to be the only one that screws up. Also this is OTA could that be an possible issue with it? You mentioned you saw the same exact thing at BB do you happen to remember was it OTA or digital cable? I also saw some old posts on the local forum of people calling / emailing local stations when they were broadcasting in HD, anyone have any contact info for KSLA?[/QUOTE


have u ever seen anything in 1080i on 44-3?

KeithAR2002
02-13-07, 09:17 PM
Have not had a chance to go to BB yet but plan to later this week. I checked 44-3 in 1080i fine and 24-5 LPB HD in 1080i also fine. 12-1 KSLA seems to be the only one that screws up. Also this is OTA could that be an possible issue with it? You mentioned you saw the same exact thing at BB do you happen to remember was it OTA or digital cable? I also saw some old posts on the local forum of people calling / emailing local stations when they were broadcasting in HD, anyone have any contact info for KSLA?


I'm sure it was OTA, I think BB has all their display TVs hooked up to an antenna to check out OTA..because it was definitely KSLA.. it was the only tv that had that problem, and all the other channels (KTBS, KLTS, etc) looked fine. And it was only on KSLA's HD channel, 12-2 and 12-3 looked okay.

SHergenrader
02-13-07, 11:29 PM
[QUOTE=Veritas0Aequitas]Have not had a chance to go to BB yet but plan to later this week. I checked 44-3 in 1080i fine and 24-5 LPB HD in 1080i also fine. 12-1 KSLA seems to be the only one that screws up. Also this is OTA could that be an possible issue with it? You mentioned you saw the same exact thing at BB do you happen to remember was it OTA or digital cable? I also saw some old posts on the local forum of people calling / emailing local stations when they were broadcasting in HD, anyone have any contact info for KSLA?[/QUOTE


have u ever seen anything in 1080i on 44-3?

Nothing is ever in 1080i on KSHV so I have no clue what he is talking about.

KBoswell
02-14-07, 10:48 AM
FYI: KETZ-DT off-the-air @ 0930 for ant. work.

We'll turn it back on when they've finished working up there.

(probably can't always post a notice, but thought you guys might could use to info -- to other signals, etc. etc.)

Kelly
===================================

Veritas0Aequitas
02-14-07, 11:38 AM
have u ever seen anything in 1080i on 44-3?
My mistake it says 1080i on the info channel but it isn't.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/RajunCajun/a6a90c7b.jpg

KeithAR2002
02-14-07, 11:42 AM
FYI: KETZ-DT off-the-air @ 0930 for ant. work.

We'll turn it back on when they've finished working up there.

(probably can't always post a notice, but thought you guys might could use to info -- to other signals, etc. etc.)

Kelly
===================================

Thanks for the heads up, Kelly. Did they turn off KTVE, as well?

KBoswell
02-15-07, 12:22 PM
Good question! Sorry to say, Keith, I don't know the answer to that. Boy, I sure HOPE they did.

Kelly



Thanks for the heads up, Kelly. Did they turn off KTVE, as well?

dufusdad
02-17-07, 04:19 PM
Manager at KTAL says they are all built out and just waiting on FCC approval to turn it on(HD).

digiblur
02-17-07, 04:41 PM
Manager at KTAL says they are all built out and just waiting on FCC approval to turn it on(HD).

You don't need FCC approval to turn on HD. A very common misconception, that people think the digital "cut-over" is all about HD. I'm assuming you are talking about their full-power DTV signal.

dufusdad
02-17-07, 06:19 PM
I asked him about HD and that's what he replied.Whatever.

shreveportdog
02-19-07, 04:19 PM
Howdy y'all,

This is my first post so i hope I'm doing this right if not please don't be too hard on this old fool. :o)

OK I'll be getting my new HDTV soon (first one for me) & I have some questions I hope maybe someone here will know the answers & be able to help.

The new TV has built in tuners (ATSC/NTSC/QAM) & I live in south Shreveport will an indoor antenna work for me to pick up OTA HDTV? if so can you name one that works well?

Also I'm a long time DirecTV customer & can not live without my DirecTV Tivos :o) I left cable way back when it was called Cablevision I think that was the name way back then. I really don't want to go back to cable as I have been very happy with DirecTV & of course the Tivos are a must. I have Cable now only for the High Speed Internet. can I split the cable going to the computer and hook it up to the QAM tuner? if so what channels can I pick up with the QAM? I think the cable company is now Time Warner, but I think Comcast is taking over? could be wrong about that as anytime something comes on about cable here in Shreveport I really don't pay it much attention.

Thanks for your time & help,
Shreveportdog

SHergenrader
02-19-07, 04:53 PM
Howdy y'all,

This is my first post so i hope I'm doing this right if not please don't be too hard on this old fool. :o)

OK I'll be getting my new HDTV soon (first one for me) & I have some questions I hope maybe someone here will know the answers & be able to help.

The new TV has built in tuners (ATSC/NTSC/QAM) & I live in south Shreveport will an indoor antenna work for me to pick up OTA HDTV? if so can you name one that works well?

Also I'm a long time DirecTV customer & can not live without my DirecTV Tivos :o) I left cable way back when it was called Cablevision I think that was the name way back then. I really don't want to go back to cable as I have been very happy with DirecTV & of course the Tivos are a must. I have Cable now only for the High Speed Internet. can I split the cable going to the computer and hook it up to the QAM tuner? if so what channels can I pick up with the QAM? I think the cable company is now Time Warner, but I think Comcast is taking over? could be wrong about that as anytime something comes on about cable here in Shreveport I really don't pay it much attention.

Thanks for your time & help,
Shreveportdog

Welcome to the board. First, you might be able to use an indoor antenna but it all depends on how far away from the towers you are located. Go to www.antennaweb.org and type in your address and it will tell you how far you are away from the towers and tell you what type of antenna you should use.

Second, you can try to split your cable line off and run it to your TV and try to pick up whatever channels Comcast will allow you to receive without an HD box, which is the locals in HD. Most cable companies put a blocker on the cable line if you only have internet so you can't split the cable line and get free cable.

DirecTV offers a HD DVR you can get so you can keep DirecTV. I think you have to pay $200 upfront to lease it.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, somebody on here will most likely have the answer(s).

ken984
02-19-07, 05:02 PM
LOL, thats probably management speak for " We can't find the d*mn On/Off button to turn on the transmitter". But i do suppose if you were going from a STA at 15kW it might take an FCC memo saying its OK to go to 1MW...whatever, it's taken them this long what's another cpl months. As long as they have it working flawlessly by next football season!

Manager at KTAL says they are all built out and just waiting on FCC approval to turn it on(HD).

SHergenrader
02-19-07, 05:19 PM
LOL, thats probably management speak for " We can't find the d*mn On/Off button to turn on the transmitter". But i do suppose if you were going from a STA at 15kW it might take an FCC memo saying its OK to go to 1MW...whatever, it's taken them this long what's another cpl months. As long as they have it working flawlessly by next football season!


Haha, so true. I agree. If it does take another couple of months it wouldn't bother me at all. We have gone this long without it so it wouldn't matter. I don't ever really watch anyting on NBC anyways except for Leno and Conan and golf whenever NBC has it on.

shreveportdog
02-19-07, 06:06 PM
Thanks for the quick reply,

Just got off the phone with DirecTV & you were right about them charging $199.00 up front just to rent or lease the HD DVR & it's not a Tivo box either :( I told her NO WAY I was going to pay $199.00 just to rent a box I can get with no up front money from cable or Dish. she then went on to tell me how the $199.00 price included installation & a new 5 LNB dish or something like that . I again said no thanks & told her I was going to check the package prices for cable & Dish, but before I could hang up she said I was on some kind of list & she could let me have the box, 5 LNB dish & install for $99.00. so I said why not I'll give it a look see as I have always enjoyed my DirecTV service. the only bad thing is the best install date I could get was for 04-03-07. oh well maybe I can get some channels over the QAM tuner but that is a long shot I guess because all I have the cable for now is the internet. I guess it won't hurt to try.

Thanks for the link to the antenna site. put in my info and most of the channels I watch the most came back in yellow so maybe an indoor antenna will work? I sure don't want to put up one of those ugly outdoor type antennas on my house. hopefully the indoor antenna or the QAM will work if not I'll have a long wait before I can enjoy HDTV on my new TV.

Thanks again for your reply. AVS is a GREAT site. :)

Pinto8W
02-19-07, 06:41 PM
shreveportdog,

I live in SE Shreveport close to Stratmore and I use an indoor antenna. This is the one I have: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131034&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032204&parentPage=family it works pretty well. I pick up everything but NBC, which is not broadcasting full power anyway.

shreveportdog
02-19-07, 11:17 PM
Thanks Pinto8W,

Gald to see an indoor antenna just might work for me. i'll pick one up and give it a try.

Baralak
02-20-07, 10:03 AM
You DO have to inform the FCC before you sign on your Full power DTV transmitter. Currently a lot of stations are transmitting on low power DTV. Before you can turn on the Full power station (Sign on) you must contact the FCC. If they are using any type of directional antenna you will have to wait for approval. If they made any changes to their CP (Construction permit) they will have to wait. If they didn't complete the medical notification they will have to wait. It is not a matter of not wanting to turn it on sometimes.

I don't know a chief engineer out there that would not want to fire it up, but things do come up. In my case I have an omni direction antenna and I completed all my requirements plus I completed my CP exactly as it was written with the exception of the antenna.

Cheers

Baralak

SHergenrader
02-20-07, 12:14 PM
Thanks for the quick reply,

Just got off the phone with DirecTV & you were right about them charging $199.00 up front just to rent or lease the HD DVR & it's not a Tivo box either :( I told her NO WAY I was going to pay $199.00 just to rent a box I can get with no up front money from cable or Dish. she then went on to tell me how the $199.00 price included installation & a new 5 LNB dish or something like that . I again said no thanks & told her I was going to check the package prices for cable & Dish, but before I could hang up she said I was on some kind of list & she could let me have the box, 5 LNB dish & install for $99.00. so I said why not I'll give it a look see as I have always enjoyed my DirecTV service. the only bad thing is the best install date I could get was for 04-03-07. oh well maybe I can get some channels over the QAM tuner but that is a long shot I guess because all I have the cable for now is the internet. I guess it won't hurt to try.

Thanks for the link to the antenna site. put in my info and most of the channels I watch the most came back in yellow so maybe an indoor antenna will work? I sure don't want to put up one of those ugly outdoor type antennas on my house. hopefully the indoor antenna or the QAM will work if not I'll have a long wait before I can enjoy HDTV on my new TV.

Thanks again for your reply. AVS is a GREAT site. :)

If most of the stations came back in yellow you should be able to use a regular indoor antenna. Also, if you have just a regular indoor antenna already, that will work. Alot of people think you have to have a special "HD Antenna" to pick up digital channels OTA. That's not true. You can just buy a $20 antenna and will get as good if not better reception than a "HD Antenna".

I'm going to call DirecTV and upgrade to the HD DVR myself now and see if I can get it for $99. If not, that's fine, I'll pay the $199.

By the way, did you try hooking up your cable to your TV and seeing if you are able to receive the cable channels? I'm curious to see if Comcast put a blocker on your line.

Veritas0Aequitas
02-20-07, 02:44 PM
*update* with my situation, finally got a hold of a very nice person in the Engineering dept. at KSLA and basically the problem is with the TV and not KSLA for some odd reason Samsungs do NOT pick up KSLA DT correctly at all. Still trying to work out what to do to resolve this with the place where I bought it (out of state) and Samsung customer support.

Also been making google placemark .kmz files of the tower locations in the area if anyone is interested in knowing the exact locations of the towers.

shreveportdog
02-20-07, 03:42 PM
If most of the stations came back in yellow you should be able to use a regular indoor antenna. Also, if you have just a regular indoor antenna already, that will work. Alot of people think you have to have a special "HD Antenna" to pick up digital channels OTA. That's not true. You can just buy a $20 antenna and will get as good if not better reception than a "HD Antenna".

I'm going to call DirecTV and upgrade to the HD DVR myself now and see if I can get it for $99. If not, that's fine, I'll pay the $199.

By the way, did you try hooking up your cable to your TV and seeing if you are able to receive the cable channels? I'm curious to see if Comcast put a blocker on your line.


Hello SHergenrader,

I'm still waiting for my new HDTV to arrive, when it does I'll try the QAM tuner & post here if I am able to get any channels that way.

just a few things that might help you when you call DirecTV;

The first CSR I talked to said he could not change the price but he put me through to the "Retention Department". so maybe you should ask to speak to a retention CSR to save you some time on hold. this seems to be the place where the deals are made to keep folks from changing to cable or Dish. also she wasn't going to do anything at first until I told her I was going to check out the package prices for cable & Dish. that's when she made the $99.00 offer, maybe could have gotten more but I was happy with that. oh and she said when the HR20 is installed & I turn on the HD pack to call back and see if I can get six months of the HD pack for free. might as well ask while you are on the phone, good luck to you! I hope you get a great deal :)


Oh and on the $99.00 deal for the HD DVR, 5 LNB Dish & installtion i was also charged $19.95 for S&H & tax of course so it ended up being about $134.00. i wish i had asked her to wave the S&H but I'm happy with the deal just not the LONG wait to get one.

Have a great day & take care.

SHergenrader
02-21-07, 10:55 AM
Hello SHergenrader,

I'm still waiting for my new HDTV to arrive, when it does I'll try the QAM tuner & post here if I am able to get any channels that way.

just a few things that might help you when you call DirecTV;

The first CSR I talked to said he could not change the price but he put me through to the "Retention Department". so maybe you should ask to speak to a retention CSR to save you some time on hold. this seems to be the place where the deals are made to keep folks from changing to cable or Dish. also she wasn't going to do anything at first until I told her I was going to check out the package prices for cable & Dish. that's when she made the $99.00 offer, maybe could have gotten more but I was happy with that. oh and she said when the HR20 is installed & I turn on the HD pack to call back and see if I can get six months of the HD pack for free. might as well ask while you are on the phone, good luck to you! I hope you get a great deal :)


Oh and on the $99.00 deal for the HD DVR, 5 LNB Dish & installtion i was also charged $19.95 for S&H & tax of course so it ended up being about $134.00. i wish i had asked her to wave the S&H but I'm happy with the deal just not the LONG wait to get one.

Have a great day & take care.

Thanks for the info. I will give them a call either today or tomorrow and let you know what happens.

haley-SEA
02-21-07, 11:36 AM
Is KTAL-DT still low power, I caught them briefly this morning while DXing. Also logged KSHV-DT. What is with the green screen on KSHV's subchannel?

SHergenrader
02-21-07, 03:46 PM
Is KTAL-DT still low power, I caught them briefly this morning while DXing. Also logged KSHV-DT. What is with the green screen on KSHV's subchannel?

I believe that KTAL is still operating at low power and not broadcasting in HD yet. On to KSHV's green screen subchannel, I have no clue. You can hear audio on it but no video. Nothing on KSHV is broadcasted in HD anyways so I wouldn't worry about that channel.

garf12
02-22-07, 08:43 PM
Wow long thread read through quiet a few pages of it and I still dont know if I should be receiving NBC KTAL channel 465 in HD on Cableone Texarkana? It really sucks watching stuff in SD on a front projection. I see they had alot of delays and some problems but was that all for OTA only?

ken984
02-23-07, 01:38 PM
Hi garf, it seems that Comcast in Shreveport is showing KTAL HD, probably due to a fiber connection direct from the station. KTAL is not broadcasting HD OTA so if your system does not have a direct connection they can't get the signal. With any luck they will manage to get all their t's crossed and i's dotted sometime soon.

zedled
02-24-07, 02:41 PM
I recently hooked up my long range outdoor scanner antenna (which is 35 feet above house) to my new Samsung LN-S2651D LCD tv seeing what OTA signals I could pickup in my area (Keithville) . I am picking up clearly all the available signals in my area 30+ miles out. One thing I noticed was that CBS HD isnt showing up correctly of sorts. Heres a picture of what im talking about.



Is anyone else having this problem in the area?

I have a Samsung HPS4253 42" Plasma with the same problem. Veritas0Aequitas or anyone, if you find a solution will you please let me know? Not sure what to do next. All other DT OTA channels look awesome except KSLA. Thanks in advance!
zedled

shreveportdog
02-26-07, 03:45 PM
Update on QAM channels from Time Warner / Comcast. I could not get any channels on my TV :( maybe if I subscribed to basic cable I could get them? does anyone know? oh well not a be deal I guess. I'm going to pick up an antenna at Radio Shack so hopefully I'll be able to get some HD channels that way if not I'll have to wait until 04-03-2007 for the DirecTV Hr 20 to be installed.

Just a quick question for anyone using DirecTV on a LCD HDTV. how do your SD channels look on your LCD HDTV? my SD channels looked better on my old Sony WEGA CRT, is this normal or do I have a bad TV? I sure hope the HD channels look better than these SD channels.

Thanks again

ken984
02-26-07, 04:23 PM
Hi dog, sd from D*looks good on my Olevia 27" LCD. But I try my best not to watch too much SD. :-)

digiblur
02-26-07, 04:45 PM
Update on QAM channels from Time Warner / Comcast. I could not get any channels on my TV :( maybe if I subscribed to basic cable I could get them? does anyone know? oh well not a be deal I guess. I'm going to pick up an antenna at Radio Shack so hopefully I'll be able to get some HD channels that way if not I'll have to wait until 04-03-2007 for the DirecTV Hr 20 to be installed.

Just a quick question for anyone using DirecTV on a LCD HDTV. how do your SD channels look on your LCD HDTV? my SD channels looked better on my old Sony WEGA CRT, is this normal or do I have a bad TV? I sure hope the HD channels look better than these SD channels.

Thanks again

It all depends on what type of block they are using and where your local HD qam's are at. If they are on channel 95-99 then they are probably blocked by only having broadband access as those channels are near the bottom of the spectrum.

The same thing happens here in BR, you'll be missing a few HD locals without basic cable.

I'm sure D*'s SD-Lite will look like smeared sh..stuff on a big screen TV. ;) Don't expect much from their bit starved downrezzed HD-Lite either.

Veritas0Aequitas
02-26-07, 06:35 PM
I have a Samsung HPS4253 42" Plasma with the same problem. Veritas0Aequitas or anyone, if you find a solution will you please let me know? Not sure what to do next. All other DT OTA channels look awesome except KSLA. Thanks in advance!
zedled
I contacted Samsung customer support and they are in the process of setting up a appointment for looking at it at my house to further diagnose the problem and fix it (they say). Will keep you updated.

SHergenrader
02-26-07, 10:07 PM
Update on QAM channels from Time Warner / Comcast. I could not get any channels on my TV :( maybe if I subscribed to basic cable I could get them? does anyone know? oh well not a be deal I guess. I'm going to pick up an antenna at Radio Shack so hopefully I'll be able to get some HD channels that way if not I'll have to wait until 04-03-2007 for the DirecTV Hr 20 to be installed.

Just a quick question for anyone using DirecTV on a LCD HDTV. how do your SD channels look on your LCD HDTV? my SD channels looked better on my old Sony WEGA CRT, is this normal or do I have a bad TV? I sure hope the HD channels look better than these SD channels.

Thanks again

If you subscribe to basic cable you should be able to receive the local HD channels. I know for sure you would get KTBS HD and KSLA HD. Those channels are mapped to 4.1 - KTBS HD, 4.2 - KTBS Mega 3, 13.1 - KSLA HD, 13.2 - The Tube, 13.3 - KSLA Weather. KMSS is mapped to 33.1, LBP HD is 24.5, and for some reason on my girlfriends TV KTAL HD is mapped to 114.2 (I think that's the correct channel). I would recommend using an antenna if all possible but getting the local channels in HD through Comcast isn't bad. The local HD channels look extremely close as to picking them up OTA.

Oh, by the way, I have a 42 inch plasma using DirecTV and the non HD channels look pretty good.

Veritas0Aequitas
02-27-07, 06:54 PM
zedled,

Contact Samsung @ 1-800-726-7864 and Press 2 at prompt, press 1 at prompt and press 3 at prompt and it will get you a live agent letting you skip the automation.

windham9
02-28-07, 07:47 PM
Is KTAL-DT still low power, I caught them briefly this morning while DXing. Also logged KSHV-DT. What is with the green screen on KSHV's subchannel?


I'm about 70 miles from Vivian, think KTALs antenna is there. I usually only receive the LP 15kW signal 5-10 nights a month. I've been able to watch KTAL for several days now. Signal at 76 now. Was 95 the other night. Either they went up to hopefully just some or all of the full 1MW, or I'm DX'ing quite nicely? But still 480i SD. I also receive KETK NBC56, they've been full power for 8 months, HD for 5 months. Nice to be in 2 DMA's. Once KTAL is up, I'll have 2 stations each of all the major networks in HD, will also greatly reduce my antenna rotator usage. :)
KSHV used to tune in at 45.1, 45.2 was the 480i SC, like 21.2. But last year I had to start tuning the physical channel 44.3 to get KSHV, the SC now at 44.4 is green, and the program info ain't worked since. KFXK FOX 51.1 & 51.2 did it now too, last week, now at 31.3 & 31.4, program info gone. But their SC still works.
Speaking of channel info, KSLA's has quit. KMSS's is ALWAYS wrong.

KeithAR2002
02-28-07, 11:57 PM
windham,

I've been suspecting KTAL of being at a higher power level, as well... I've had an OTA setup for about a year now (for HD), and I probably have only logged them twice in all that time, but over the past week or so, KTAL's signal has been coming through to my location at around the same time as the other Shreveport DTs do (around 7PM...KTAL might be a little later than the others) This morning I was even locking them in, and I was having a lot of trouble with KTBS and KMSS this morning. So I suspect they have done something.. maybe someone should email them.. it could just be the weather, but I think it's something more.

RE: KMSS-DT PSIP... is their program info always an hour behind for you, as well? I'll have the channel on KTBS, the time will be right (example...10:56PM), but if I turn to KMSS, the time changes to 9:56PM, and show program info for whatever was on at that time. VERY annoying. I would email them, but Im afraid I would be wasting my time. :(

SHergenrader
03-01-07, 09:04 AM
RE: KMSS-DT PSIP... is their program info always an hour behind for you, as well? I'll have the channel on KTBS, the time will be right (example...10:56PM), but if I turn to KMSS, the time changes to 9:56PM, and show program info for whatever was on at that time. VERY annoying. I would email them, but Im afraid I would be wasting my time. :(

Yeah, that is very annoying. I would think emailing them would accomplish nothing. I've sent a few emails to them before and never got a response.

windham9
03-01-07, 09:32 AM
windham,
RE: KMSS-DT PSIP... is their program info always an hour behind for you, as well? I'll have the channel on KTBS, the time will be right (example...10:56PM), but if I turn to KMSS, the time changes to 9:56PM, and show program info for whatever was on at that time. VERY annoying. I would email them, but Im afraid I would be wasting my time. :(

Thats it, so handy to know what just went off,lol. At least they could make it fast instead of slow, know whats next up. With KSHV, KSLA & KFXK "eliminating" the info, I wonder if it has been axed by corporate bean-counters?

burgranger
03-01-07, 12:47 PM
Another thing about KMSS. I called the control room at KMSS last sunday to remind them to flip the switch during the NASCAR race. The number i had got changed to the main number and no one was there to answer the phone. About an hour later they finally flipped the switch.

I thought FOX automated the switching to take it out of the local guys hands.
I dont understand the whole splicer thing.

Veritas0Aequitas
03-01-07, 01:02 PM
windham,
This morning I was even locking them in, and I was having a lot of trouble with KTBS and KMSS this morning. So I suspect they have done something.. maybe someone should email them.. it could just be the weather, but I think it's something more.


Both KTBS and KMSS seem to be at there regular levels here but KTAL is down to 40% instead of 90% during prime time :confused: possible they are still working on it?

dufusdad
03-01-07, 04:20 PM
Here's what the manager of KTAL told me today:We are very, very close. We have kicked up the digital transmitter to full power on Tuesday of this week. We need to let it bake in for a bit to stabilize and then we can switch on the HD. Probably next week some time, if all holds steady. Keep your fingers crossed.



Scott

Ronald_Jeremy
03-01-07, 05:41 PM
Let it bake in??? :rolleyes:

gbranch
03-02-07, 08:52 AM
Many RF components, such as oscillators, need to "bake" for a certain amount of time to stabilize their frequencies. This can either be done by cooking in an oven, or by the heat produced during operation. Once the oscillators stabilize, then the system can be tweaked for optimal performance. If you tweak your system before your oscillators are stable, then you can drift out.

windham9
03-02-07, 10:30 AM
Another thing about KMSS. I called the control room at KMSS last sunday to remind them to flip the switch during the NASCAR race. The number i had got changed to the main number and no one was there to answer the phone. About an hour later they finally flipped the switch.

I thought FOX automated the switching to take it out of the local guys hands.
I dont understand the whole splicer thing.

Pretty sure that was an issue with FOX network HD feed, not just KMSS

simmonstwin
03-05-07, 11:34 AM
so when is My Network 45-1 going to start to broadcasting in HD? alot of their other markets have been broadcasting in hd since the beginning, our station should have the capabilities since the station is the old UPN station that was broadcasting in hd before the merger. anyone have any info on them??

SHergenrader
03-05-07, 04:38 PM
so when is My Network 45-1 going to start to broadcasting in HD? alot of their other markets have been broadcasting in hd since the beginning, our station should have the capabilities since the station is the old UPN station that was broadcasting in hd before the merger. anyone have any info on them??

No clue but who would want to watch anything on that channel anyways. All their shows that are in HD stink.

simmonstwin
03-05-07, 05:25 PM
No clue but who would want to watch anything on that channel anyways. All their shows that are in HD stink.

true.. but they do show movies on saturday that are pretty good.

KeithAR2002
03-05-07, 05:54 PM
I just wanted to see if the locals on here are having better luck with KTAL-DT since they went full power. Their full power signal is equal in strength to KMSS and KTBS at my location. Now if they would get the HD plugged in..

Veritas0Aequitas
03-05-07, 07:53 PM
I just wanted to see if the locals on here are having better luck with KTAL-DT since they went full power.

One of the other towers up there is almost in direct LOS with the KTAL tower so I am experiencing some issues but other than that It seems strong and fine. Has anyone been able to pull up there Service Contour map? both links seem to be broken on FCC site?

KeithAR2002
03-05-07, 10:08 PM
Well that's odd that their full power DT map isn't working... well the analog map is still working, so take a look at it, because it's pretty equal to what their DT signal coverage is (analog might cover a mile or two more) -

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/TV304797.gif

KeithAR2002
03-08-07, 11:54 PM
So, what do you all think of KMSS getting a "newscast" in April?

SHergenrader
03-09-07, 10:07 AM
So, what do you all think of KMSS getting a "newscast" in April?

I didn't know they were getting one. It will probably be a clusterf*** just like KTAL. But who knows, they may shock us and it be pretty good.

ken984
03-09-07, 11:08 AM
I didn't know they were doing that either, hopefully they have upgraded all their production equipment. Also, what time will it air? If it goes up against the other 3 it could be tough to get any viewers. And they need something between the end of Network programming at 9 and News at 10(if its gonna air at 10) the reruns of sitcoms they air in the 9-10 timeslot won't keep many people tuned in.

SHergenrader
03-09-07, 11:27 AM
I didn't know they were doing that either, hopefully they have upgraded all their production equipment. Also, what time will it air? If it goes up against the other 3 it could be tough to get any viewers. And they need something between the end of Network programming at 9 and News at 10(if its gonna air at 10) the reruns of sitcoms they air in the 9-10 timeslot won't keep many people tuned in.

I would imagine they wouldn't go up against KTBS, KSLA, or KTAL but who knows. And you are right about the 9 to 10 time slot. The reruns of sitcoms needs to go. How come FOX doesn't have any programming from 9 to 10 every night? I know they do some nights but not every night. Any clue why?

Veritas0Aequitas
03-09-07, 11:40 AM
Now thats the funniest thing I have heard this week. Anyone in the area that knows where there studio is over on Jewella Ave. already knows how "good" this newscast will be. I always wondered why Fox would pull there prime time shows from 9pm cst and push them back to 8 & 7, guess the viewer pool just was not large enough. Saw some TV adjustment pictures this morning on KTAL around 3am looked like some sort of guide for them to align the picture to the screen :confused:

RBoswell
03-09-07, 11:46 AM
Has anyone heard when KTAL will turn on the HD?

Veritas0Aequitas
03-09-07, 01:23 PM
Has anyone heard when KTAL will turn on the HD?

It was posted earlier:

3-1-07
"Here's what the manager of KTAL told me today:We are very, very close. We have kicked up the digital transmitter to full power on Tuesday of this week. We need to let it bake in for a bit to stabilize and then we can switch on the HD. Probably next week some time, if all holds steady. Keep your fingers crossed."

KeithAR2002
03-09-07, 01:51 PM
It's suppose to air at 9... and I also read that it's not going to really be local, it's going to be broadcasted from their sister station in Baton Rouge... it'll be a statewide newscast pretty much. On the KMSS website, they have a job posting for Photographer and Reporter, so that means they'll just have a story or two from Shreveport :rolleyes:

Here's where I found the info...

http://www.marshallfannin.com/

It's down toward the bottom of the page. The ironic part of all this is that the owners of KMSS filed for bankruptcy yesterday! That story is also listed on that blog page, and I read somewhere else that NEXSTAR is looking into buying a few of their stations! :eek: :eek:

Veritas0Aequitas
03-09-07, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the link the Best Buy story on that site was hilarious but so true about local retail stores.

nyvram
03-12-07, 01:18 PM
Hello,

Tried to go through this thread but it seems to be 99% Shreveport & 1% Monroe. Can anyone summarize what the current state of Monroe/time warneer/comcast HD is? We are buying a tv for our parents..for basically one purpose...so our dad can watch Saints games in HD in the fall. Will that be possible? Would we need to buy a satellite? They have time-warner standard cable currently. I live in Nashville & will be driving there next week so time is of the essence.

Can anyone pick up any stations in Monroe w/ QAM tuner over timewarner? What about a DVR to record shows? Is there any way to record shows in HD that are picked up via QAM tuner? Again, the main reason is so our dad can record & watch Saints games in HD since he's almost always at church when they're on.

I tried calling comcast in Monroe and after being on hold for over an hour, they abruptly hung up on me. I have a feeling any info I get from that source will be less than informative anyway..

TIA!

digiblur
03-12-07, 01:51 PM
Hello,

Tried to go through this thread but it seems to be 99% Shreveport & 1% Monroe. Can anyone summarize what the current state of Monroe/time warneer/comcast HD is? We are buying a tv for our parents..for basically one purpose...so our dad can watch Saints games in HD in the fall. Will that be possible? Would we need to buy a satellite? They have time-warner standard cable currently. I live in Nashville & will be driving there next week so time is of the essence.

Can anyone pick up any stations in Monroe w/ QAM tuner over timewarner? What about a DVR to record shows? Is there any way to record shows in HD that are picked up via QAM tuner? Again, the main reason is so our dad can record & watch Saints games in HD since he's almost always at church when they're on.

I tried calling comcast in Monroe and after being on hold for over an hour, they abruptly hung up on me. I have a feeling any info I get from that source will be less than informative anyway..

TIA!

If all else fails, you can always use the DishNetwork "move" method and get all of your networks in HD via satellite and also view the OTA's that cover your area.

SHergenrader
03-12-07, 02:00 PM
Hello,

Tried to go through this thread but it seems to be 99% Shreveport & 1% Monroe. Can anyone summarize what the current state of Monroe/time warneer/comcast HD is? We are buying a tv for our parents..for basically one purpose...so our dad can watch Saints games in HD in the fall. Will that be possible? Would we need to buy a satellite? They have time-warner standard cable currently. I live in Nashville & will be driving there next week so time is of the essence.

Can anyone pick up any stations in Monroe w/ QAM tuner over timewarner? What about a DVR to record shows? Is there any way to record shows in HD that are picked up via QAM tuner? Again, the main reason is so our dad can record & watch Saints games in HD since he's almost always at church when they're on.

I tried calling comcast in Monroe and after being on hold for over an hour, they abruptly hung up on me. I have a feeling any info I get from that source will be less than informative anyway..

TIA!

I'm not sure about Monroe but in Shreveport, Comcast cable, you can pick up the local HD stations with a QAM tuner so I would imagine you would be able to do the same in Monroe.

As for your question about recording the games, you can go with DirecTV and get their HD DVR and hook an antenna up to the back of the HD DVR and it will integrate your local HD channels with your satellite channels and the locals will show up in the program guide. You can record your local HD channels if you have the HR-20 HD DVR receiver from DirecTV. I'm not sure how Dish Network works as I have D* and not E*. Alot of people complain about the HR-20 from D* but I have had no problems with it at all and I would definetly recommend it.

Ronald_Jeremy
03-12-07, 03:55 PM
With Dish you can do the same thing. I have the VIP622 box and it outputs to two tv's as well. You can record two satellite feeds while recording from the antenna AND be watching a show you recorded two weeks ago. Gotta love technology. :D

nyvram
03-12-07, 10:58 PM
Ok, I am essentially interested in KARD (Monroe FOX affiliate). I get differeing viewpoints on whether that's HD or not. Anyone out there getting KARD in HD either via QAM/OTA or comcast?

That's the network the NFL will be on this fall..so that's really the only station our dad will care about.

TIA

SHergenrader
03-12-07, 11:37 PM
Ok, I am essentially interested in KARD (Monroe FOX affiliate). I get differeing viewpoints on whether that's HD or not. Anyone out there getting KARD in HD either via QAM/OTA or comcast?

That's the network the NFL will be on this fall..so that's really the only station our dad will care about.

TIA

Go to http://www.antennaweb.org and type in your dad's home address and it will give you a list of how far you are away from the local channels broadcast towers. When you find out come back here and post how far you are away from the major broadcast networks.

simmonstwin
03-12-07, 11:52 PM
i hate you ktal .. i really really hate you

KeithAR2002
03-13-07, 04:07 AM
Ok, I am essentially interested in KARD (Monroe FOX affiliate). I get differeing viewpoints on whether that's HD or not. Anyone out there getting KARD in HD either via QAM/OTA or comcast?

That's the network the NFL will be on this fall..so that's really the only station our dad will care about.

TIA

nyvram,

I'm sorry, but KARD-DT won't be full power HD until 2008 :( Your best bet for FOX-HD:

1) Directv Waiver or "Moving"
2) KMSS-DT is the closest FOX affiliate in HD from Monroe..

Yeah it sucks... unfortunately most of the stations in the Monroe market are cheap.

KeithAR2002
03-13-07, 04:11 AM
And here is the status of HD broadcasts in Monroe -

KNOE-DT (CBS) - Full Power, CBS-HD on CH 8.1
KTVE -DT (NBC) - Full Power, NBC-HD on CH 10.1
KAQY-DT (ABC) - Flea Power, do they even exist? Ugly ABC-SD on CH 11.1.....No HD planned
KTLM-DT (PBS) - Low Power, PBS-HD on CH 13.5
KARD-DT (FOX) - Low Power, No HD til 2008... FOX-SD on CH 14.1

I think KNOE is the only HD network on cable systems in Monroe/El Dorado... Don't ask me about KTVE, because I have no idea when they'll be on cable.

That's it, in a nutshell.

SHergenrader
03-13-07, 10:35 AM
i hate you ktal .. i really really hate you

Are they still not broadcasting in HD? Also, are you able to get a signal from them? I have an antenna in my attic and I live about 15 or 20 miles from their tower and I can only get a signal in the 20's if I'm lucky. Does anybody know if they are broadcasting at full power yet?

And yes, KTAL stinks!!!

Veritas0Aequitas
03-13-07, 11:09 AM
i hate you ktal .. i really really hate you

Must be hard to find that HD switch with all this overcast :D

KTAL is Full power they are just farther north than the other groups of towers. I can consistantly recieve 80-90% signal from my house which is 53 miles from there tower.

So far no HD just 480I and last night they had lots of drops in audio even with a great signal.

Whoever asked about recieving KMSS from Monroe its 100+ miles to the KMSS tower from Monroe and only 70-80 from El Dorado.

windham9
03-13-07, 05:47 PM
Must be hard to find that HD switch with all this overcast :D

KTAL is Full power they are just farther north than the other groups of towers. I can consistantly recieve 80-90% signal from my house which is 53 miles from there tower.

So far no HD just 480I and last night they had lots of drops in audio even with a great signal.

Whoever asked about recieving KMSS from Monroe its 100+ miles to the KMSS tower from Monroe and only 70-80 from El Dorado.

I get KTAL 80-90% at 70+ miles, but until they go HD I'll just watch KETK56 in HD. :)

At night I can often DX KNOE 8.1 at well over 100 miles. 10 & 14 analog too. On a good night I'll pull digital signals out of Mississippi. East is my best direction for DX.

KSLA program info working again. KSHV's (MyNetworkTV) probably never will. I get MyNetworkTV on KFXK subchannel 51.2 as well.

RBoswell
03-13-07, 05:56 PM
What type antenna are you using?

KeithAR2002
03-13-07, 05:57 PM
windham,

Have you been able to pull in KTVE-HD from El Dorado? They are CH 10.1..on RF 27.

windham9
03-13-07, 06:57 PM
"RBoswell What type antenna are you using? "

windham,

Have you been able to pull in KTVE-HD from El Dorado? They are CH 10.1..on RF 27.

The biggest CM crossfire they still make, #3671, at 40' with CM rotator & CM preamp. At my old house I had the biggest CM Quantum, too bad its discontinued. Want a 60-70' tower, get above some trees here, try to pull Beaumont-Houston-Dallas maybe.

Keith, I'm thinking its not been too long since they went FP-HD? Been a while since I've pointed east. During football season I'd sometimes catch a different game on KNOE not on KSLA or KYTX. I had so many channels in memory I dumped it a while back. I'll point ENE & scan, the next 2 nights may be decent. The analog FOX 14 I get sometimes, is that Monroe, on Alexandria? Do they have a FP/HD signal up?

Edit-Just saw you post on KARD, 2008=thats bad.

http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html

KeithAR2002
03-13-07, 07:18 PM
FOX 14 is in Monroe, but their transmitter is between Monroe and Alexandria. KTVE just went full power back in January..the HD is decent, but they could allocate a little more bandwidth to it... 14 mps isn't very good :(

windham9
03-13-07, 09:49 PM
FOX 14 is in Monroe, but their transmitter is between Monroe and Alexandria. KTVE just went full power back in January..the HD is decent, but they could allocate a little more bandwidth to it... 14 mps isn't very good :(

All subchannels should be turned off during HD sports!

girdnerg
03-15-07, 04:02 PM
Hey folks, I was referred here from another thread to ask a question.

I'm looking into getting a CM 4228 antenna + the CM 7777 preamp to help with reception of my weakest station; KJRH-DT digital channel broadcasting at 800 kW at a height of 505 meters HAAT at about 40.5 miles distance. However, they plan on going to vhf channel 8 after the anolog shutoff and I see that you folks have to deal with KNOE-DT (CBS) CBS-HD on CH 8.1 and could possibly help.

hdtvprimer.com says it works for hi vhf, but the graph shows a pretty good drop below channel 9.

Can some of you post your results using the CM 4228 for vhf channel 8. Distance and quality of reception would help greatly.

Also, when using the pre-amp, do you have it set for uhf only or combined uhf/vhf?

My thread is case you want more specifics. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10035391#post10035391)

Thanks for your time,
Rob

KeithAR2002
03-15-07, 04:32 PM
girdnerg,

I live in El Dorado, which is in the extreme northernmost part of the market. I can't get KNOE-DT from my location but maybe once a week in the late evening. I use a VHF antenna for the VHF stations, though. I'm 76 miles from the transmitter. There are a lot of people that are closer than me (40-50 mile range) than have no problems with recieving KNOE-DT with a 4228. I originally just wanted all the gain I could get, I thought I would be able to get KNOE if I aimed exactly, but it didn't work. I have better results from the UHF Shreveport stations at 80-81 miles away, than I do with the VHF station KNOE. You should have no problem with KJRH when they move to CH 8. If you can get a clear signal from KTUL, then that should tell you how well KJRH-DT will come once they move to 8.

You would set the preamp to "combined" if you only have the 4228.

Again, regarding KNOE with 4228, there was one member on the Alexandria board that had a 4228/7777 combo, and was getting KNOE-DT in the 75-80% range. Alexandria is around 40-45 miles from the transmitter site. Monroe itself is around 30 miles from the site, and all the members from there with 4228/7777 combos have zero problems with reception.

Hope this helps.

KeithAR2002
03-15-07, 04:35 PM
All subchannels should be turned off during HD sports!

KTVE uses 3+ mps for their "doppler radar" which is blind after about 20 miles. :rolleyes:

digiblur
03-15-07, 06:08 PM
Hey folks, I was referred here from another thread to ask a question.

I'm looking into getting a CM 4228 antenna + the CM 7777 preamp to help with reception of my weakest station; KJRH-DT digital channel broadcasting at 800 kW at a height of 505 meters HAAT at about 40.5 miles distance. However, they plan on going to vhf channel 8 after the anolog shutoff and I see that you folks have to deal with KNOE-DT (CBS) CBS-HD on CH 8.1 and could possibly help.

hdtvprimer.com says it works for hi vhf, but the graph shows a pretty good drop below channel 9.

Can some of you post your results using the CM 4228 for vhf channel 8. Distance and quality of reception would help greatly.

Also, when using the pre-amp, do you have it set for uhf only or combined uhf/vhf?

My thread is case you want more specifics. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10035391#post10035391)

Thanks for your time,
Rob

I setup a rig in Southwest Lake Charles with a CM4228 on a 20 foot mast. The antenna is pointed almost due east to pick up the HD's out of Lafayette. KPLC transmits on analog 7 and digitally on 8. The CM4228 picks up the signal at almost 100%. I was worried about the RF8 before I setup the antenna but was pleasantly surprised. Even analog 7 comes in crystal clear!

Here's the specs on their digital signal:
17kw
451 meters

Judging from the map below the rig is a little over 20 miles from the transmitter.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1046760.html

haley-SEA
03-16-07, 09:19 AM
KTVE uses 3+ mps for their "doppler radar" which is blind after about 20 miles. :rolleyes:


Speaking of KTVE's radar channel: (hope Joe could answer these)

Why is 16x9 SD instead of 4x3 SD used for the radar image?

Why does the radar exclude much of KTVE's broadcast coverage area (the opposite of what Little Rock stations do)?

girdnerg
03-16-07, 10:13 AM
girdnerg,

I live in El Dorado, which is in the extreme northernmost part of the market. I can't get KNOE-DT from my location but maybe once a week in the late evening. I use a VHF antenna for the VHF stations, though. I'm 76 miles from the transmitter. There are a lot of people that are closer than me (40-50 mile range) than have no problems with recieving KNOE-DT with a 4228. I originally just wanted all the gain I could get, I thought I would be able to get KNOE if I aimed exactly, but it didn't work. I have better results from the UHF Shreveport stations at 80-81 miles away, than I do with the VHF station KNOE. You should have no problem with KJRH when they move to CH 8. If you can get a clear signal from KTUL, then that should tell you how well KJRH-DT will come once they move to 8.

You would set the preamp to "combined" if you only have the 4228.

Again, regarding KNOE with 4228, there was one member on the Alexandria board that had a 4228/7777 combo, and was getting KNOE-DT in the 75-80% range. Alexandria is around 40-45 miles from the transmitter site. Monroe itself is around 30 miles from the site, and all the members from there with 4228/7777 combos have zero problems with reception.

Hope this helps.
I setup a rig in Southwest Lake Charles with a CM4228 on a 20 foot mast. The antenna is pointed almost due east to pick up the HD's out of Lafayette. KPLC transmits on analog 7 and digitally on 8. The CM4228 picks up the signal at almost 100%. I was worried about the RF8 before I setup the antenna but was pleasantly surprised. Even analog 7 comes in crystal clear!

Here's the specs on their digital signal:
17kw
451 meters

Judging from the map below the rig is a little over 20 miles from the transmitter.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1046760.html

I've got 20' of 1.25" mast with guy wires on the roof. I've seen that the 4228 is big and heavy. Will it require a more sturdy setup?

Thanks folks,
Rob

digiblur
03-16-07, 10:23 AM
I've got 20' of 1.25" mast with guy wires on the roof. I've seen that the 4228 is big and heavy. Will it require a more sturdy setup?

Thanks folks,
Rob

No guy wires here... just a 30 foot CM mast from Lowe's. The collapsing style one. I only have two sections extended up. It's been up for quite sometime and has seen a lot of wind in its day.

KeithAR2002
03-17-07, 01:36 AM
The 4228 is about 15 lbs... I have mine on a tripod mast on a roof peak, the rotor is attached to the first five foot section, with another five foot section attached to the rotator, and the 4228. This was the easiest antenna setup to do, for me, at least.

KeithAR2002
03-17-07, 02:28 AM
By the way, after a little bit of googling... I found a very good map that shows the coverage of the full power signal for KTAL-DT. I hope some of you will find this useful.

http://i18.tinypic.com/2mnoll2.gif

dufusdad
03-17-07, 12:44 PM
Manager at KTAL hasn't answered my E-mail lately.Don't know what has happened to the HD turn on.

windham9
03-17-07, 05:46 PM
Manager at KTAL hasn't answered my E-mail lately.Don't know what has happened to the HD turn on.
They had HD up for a short time last year while they were still 15kW. Wonder how many subchannels they'll put up? NBC's 1080i needs the full 19.2 Mbps bandwidth, certainly during sports. Makes no sense they aren't at least testing HD during primetime.

digiblur
03-17-07, 06:04 PM
They had HD up for a short time last year while they were still 15kW. Wonder how many subchannels they'll put up? NBC's 1080i needs the full 19.2 Mbps bandwidth, certainly during sports. Makes no sense they aren't at least testing HD during primetime.

Unfortunately you won't see the video at 19.2 with no subchannels. You typically see around 15-16.

SHergenrader
03-18-07, 10:48 PM
Ok, I need some help that maybe somebody can answer. I just recently bought a Terrestrial Digital DB4 antenna. http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?prod=TD-DB4. I have it installed in my attic. I live about 10 miles from all the towers except for KTAL, which is about 20 miles from me. I get in the mid 90's on signal strength on every station except KLTS which I get in the mid 60's and KTAL which I either don't have a signal or it's in the mid to upper 20's sometimes. Any ideas on what else I can do to receive KTAL? I know they are broadcasting at full power right now and yet I am unable to get a signal from them. Do I need a preamp? If yes, which one do you recommend and if not what do I need? Any help is appreciated.

KeithAR2002
03-18-07, 11:13 PM
Well that's strange that you can't get a good signal from KTAL @ full power.. have you tried moving the antenna around to see if you can get anything from them? I've noticed their signal is a little lower than KTBS and KMSS.... even when they are in the 80% range, KTAL is only around 50%. I hate their VHF signal... It's difficult to pick up even from 5 miles away, but the same goes for VHF CH 3, as well. Try moving the antenna around the room to see if there's a strong spot for them.

SHergenrader
03-18-07, 11:19 PM
Well that's strange that you can't get a good signal from KTAL @ full power.. have you tried moving the antenna around to see if you can get anything from them? I've noticed their signal is a little lower than KTBS and KMSS.... even when they are in the 80% range, KTAL is only around 50%. I hate their VHF signal... It's difficult to pick up even from 5 miles away, but the same goes for VHF CH 3, as well. Try moving the antenna around the room to see if there's a strong spot for them.

I've rotated it 180 degrees and never can get a signal about 30%. I can remember once or twice getting a signal late at night in the 40's but that's it. Most of the time no signal at all. I just find it strange that I can get every station in the 90's and then I can't get KTAL.

KeithAR2002
03-18-07, 11:28 PM
Maybe you can contact the engineers at KTAL and see what is up. Are you in a low-lying area? Sometimes it helps to adjust the antenna vertically, if you haven't already tried. Even if you are in a poor reception area, at 20 miles you should at least be getting a little something.

A good preamp can make all the difference.... without mine, I probably could only get one DT station. With the local PBS station here, I could pick them up with a signal in the 40-45% range (need a 40% signal for a lock) before I installed my preamp. After I installed the preamp, the signal went up to 75%.

SHergenrader
03-18-07, 11:36 PM
Maybe you can contact the engineers at KTAL and see what is up. Are you in a low-lying area? Sometimes it helps to adjust the antenna vertically, if you haven't already tried. Even if you are in a poor reception area, at 20 miles you should at least be getting a little something.

A good preamp can make all the difference.... without mine, I probably could only get one DT station. With the local PBS station here, I could pick them up with a signal in the 40-45% range (need a 40% signal for a lock) before I installed my preamp. After I installed the preamp, the signal went up to 75%.

What pre amp would you recommend and if I'm getting KTBS, KSLA, KMSS, KSHV, and KPXJ in the mid to upper 90's will having a pre amp effect the signal strength on those channels? Also, the cable from the antenna to the back of my receiver is only about 50 feet.

KeithAR2002
03-18-07, 11:46 PM
I have the Channel Master 7777... That's the negative about having a preamp... it could overload all the other signals, but it could be worth a shot. You could get something called an attenuator, which may help with any possible overload...it costs about 5 bucks at RadioShack, it's a device that lets you adjust how much signal makes it to your receiver...I have no use for one because I don't live very close to any transmitter. It may turn out that's it's a problem with KTAL (which wouldn't surprise me), because it seems like a lot of people in the SHV/Bossier area have had problems with KTAL, even with the full power :rolleyes:

SHergenrader
03-18-07, 11:50 PM
I have the Channel Master 7777... That's the negative about having a preamp... it could overload all the other signals, but it could be worth a shot. You could get something called an attenuator, which may help with any possible overload...it costs about 5 bucks at RadioShack, it's a device that lets you adjust how much signal makes it to your receiver...I have no use for one because I don't live very close to any transmitter. It may turn out that's it's a problem with KTAL (which wouldn't surprise me), because it seems like a lot of people in the SHV/Bossier area have had problems with KTAL, even with the full power :rolleyes:

Thanks alot Keith, I'll try a preamp and see what happens. I'll let you know.

Ronald_Jeremy
03-19-07, 10:14 AM
I think you probably have too much antenna. From where you are, rabbit ears should work.

SHergenrader
03-19-07, 11:03 AM
I think you probably have too much antenna. From where you are, rabbit ears should work.


I'll hook up an indoor antenna and see what happens.