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Lee Thorn
03-19-07, 12:18 PM
Will someone in Shreveport PLEASE post a full list of what they can receive? Info from

close to the 71115 (SE) area would be SUPER! I would really appreciate this.

SHergenrader
03-19-07, 01:37 PM
Will someone in Shreveport PLEASE post a full list of what they can receive? Info from

close to the 71115 (SE) area would be SUPER! I would really appreciate this.


Go to http://www.antennaweb.org and type in your address and it will tell you what channels you can receive and with what type of antenna. If you look back within 10 pages from the last on this message board I posted a list of every channel and their sub channels available.

Veritas0Aequitas
03-19-07, 02:07 PM
Agreed, When using antennaweb enter in a tower height of 500+ft so that it will show everything. Also reading back 20+ pages will net you plenty of info related to the area.

what part of 71115 are you in?

SHergenrader
03-19-07, 03:27 PM
Will someone in Shreveport PLEASE post a full list of what they can receive? Info from

close to the 71115 (SE) area would be SUPER! I would really appreciate this.

I found a post of mine that lists all the local stations: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9567095#post9567095

girdnerg
03-19-07, 07:22 PM
Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Replaced the 10-yr-old cable (turned out to be RG-59 :eek: ) with new quad-shield, solid copper core RG-6. It raised the signal strength ~5 points and I haven't had a drop-out in 2 days. Yesterday was sunny and windy. Today is overcast with light rain and some lightning. 2.1 is now in the high 80% signal strength with very few dips. Doesn't fluctuate near as often and when it does, it's not near as much.

While I was at it, I also replaced all the distribution center cables and splitters with higher quality parts and cables. Now all 5 TVs get a stellar signal.

Thanks for all the help,
Rob

KeithAR2002
03-20-07, 12:13 AM
girdnerg,

No problem... we're happy to help! Are you getting KTUL-DT well?

KeithAR2002
03-20-07, 12:14 AM
SH,

Did you try the indoor antenna? If so, what were your results?

windham9
03-20-07, 01:43 AM
KSLA-DT 12.1 CBS & 2 subchannels tube & wx
KTAL-DT 6.1 NBC Still SD only
KTBS-DT 3.1 ABC 2 subchannels 24hr news &wx
KPXJ-DT 21.1 CW 1 subchannel
KMSS-DT 33.1. FOX No SC's like it should be
KSHV-DT 44.3 MNT -NO PROGRAM info for months!
KLTS-DT 24.1 PBS 2 subchannels
KYTX-DT 19.1 CBS their subchannel is unique
KTRE-DT 9.1 ABC 2 subchannels tube & wx
KETK-DT 56.1 NBC 22 1 subchannel wx
KFXK-DT 51.1 FOX 1 subchannel-MNT

Been 10 years since I told the satellite people that they charge too much for too little. Nothing's changed there. Cable here isnt worth watching, and their internet service is a joke. The finest quality HDTV is free OTA. And ATT(SBC) DSL is rocking here at 5500 down/525 up. Yea, I pay for that, because it's worth it.

SUPPORT FREE BROADCAST HDTV!

girdnerg
03-20-07, 02:16 AM
girdnerg,

No problem... we're happy to help! Are you getting KTUL-DT well?

ABC KTUL-DT 8.1 is my best. Comes in rock solid at 95%. I'm now getting 2.1 NBC, 6.1 CBS, 8.1 ABC, 11.1 PBS, 6.2 CW, & 41.1 MNT from Tulsa.

I'm also picking up 5.1 CBS, 40.1 ABC, and 13.1 PBS from Arkansas off the back side of the antenna.

Rob

SHergenrader
03-20-07, 09:45 AM
SH,

Did you try the indoor antenna? If so, what were your results?

Yesterday when I got off work I went into the attic and took just the antenna down and brought it inside and hooked it up inside and I was picking up KTAL in the 90's and PBS in the 90's. So my problem was it being in the attic but what I don't understand is that I was picking up KTBS, KSLA, KSHV, KMSS, and KPXJ all in the 90's while the antenna was in the attic. I am going to install it outside now.

shreveportdog
03-21-07, 03:53 PM
Hello again,

I made a post here a while back about receiving QAM channels in Shreveport through Time Warner / Comcast cable using my high speed internet cable (I only have internet access no basic TV). I posted that I couldn't receive any channels using QAM but I was wrong. my new HDTV has 2 antenna inputs on the back and I thought they were the same, hey they looked the same to me. :) anyway I was told by Comcast that they do have a few QAM stations and I should try the other input on my TV. so I did and YES it worked. here is a list of the channels I was able to get:

80-2 ABC (some HD)
80-5 LPB HD
90-21 The CW
90-33 FOX (some HD)
91-3 I only see radar on this one?
91-4 TheTube?? video is very bad on this one
91-6 Create LPB+
91-14 KSLA 24/7 Stromtracker
91-45 KSHV 45 WB
104-15 ?? no video or audio on this one
114-2 NBC (some HD)
115-9 OnDemand clips (I think)

So that's all the stations I could get using my QAM tuner. sorry about the misinformation I posted here before.

adphuh
03-22-07, 09:33 AM
I can pick up KNOE 8.1 & 8.2. 4 stations of AETN from KTVE tower 4 miles away but can't pick up the HD from the tower. Why ....is the signal too strong?

Veritas0Aequitas
03-22-07, 11:22 AM
That tower is in you service area and ERP is 822.8 kW so I do not see a transmit issue. I do see you are listing VHF and UHF channels what type of antenna are you using?

adphuh
03-22-07, 01:33 PM
Radio Shack model 15-2187. One of their round 20 inch HD models. Maybe the KTVE analog from being so close is blocking the HD digital signal? I've gotten the same 6 channels since I put it up Monday. I can see the tower from my porch it is so close.

Ronald_Jeremy
03-22-07, 04:37 PM
Hello again,

I made a post here a while back about receiving QAM channels in Shreveport through Time Warner / Comcast cable using my high speed internet cable (I only have internet access no basic TV). I posted that I couldn't receive any channels using QAM but I was wrong. my new HDTV has 2 antenna inputs on the back and I thought they were the same, hey they looked the same to me. :) anyway I was told by Comcast that they do have a few QAM stations and I should try the other input on my TV. so I did and YES it worked. here is a list of the channels I was able to get:

That will work until they do an audit. It is usually hit and miss, but since you are only paying for internet there is supposed to be a filter on your line that blocks all TV. They usually don't install it right away but sooner or later they will.

Just enjoy it while you have it! :D

Ronald_Jeremy
03-22-07, 04:46 PM
Radio Shack model 15-2187. One of their round 20 inch HD models. Maybe the KTVE analog from being so close is blocking the HD digital signal? I've gotten the same 6 channels since I put it up Monday. I can see the tower from my porch it is so close.Just an FYI. There is no such thing as an HD antenna. It is all marketing. The antenna your parents used to pick up locals 30 years ago will pick up digital OTA.

SHergenrader
03-22-07, 05:10 PM
Just an FYI. There is no such thing as an HD antenna. It is all marketing. The antenna your parents used to pick up locals 30 years ago will pick up digital OTA.

So true, I am amazed of how many people who don't realize you can use a pair of $5 rabbit ears from Wal-Mart and get HD channels with a better signal than most of the $20 or $30 "HD Antennas" you buy from Radio Shack or Circuit City or Best Buy.

SHergenrader
03-22-07, 05:11 PM
That will work until they do an audit. It is usually hit and miss, but since you are only paying for internet there is supposed to be a filter on your line that blocks all TV. They usually don't install it right away but sooner or later they will.

Just enjoy it while you have it! :D


Yeah, that's what I was telling him in some earlier post. I'm really shocked there is no filter on the line that is blocking the TV channels. Enjoy it while you can. Hopefully you will get lucky and they will never find out.

SHergenrader
03-22-07, 05:14 PM
Ok, is there any word on KTAL? I was under the impression they were to begin broadcasting in HD last week but that has come and passed and still no HD. I sent an email asking what's going on but of course I have yet to receive a reply. Anybody heard anything? This is really starting to get annoying. I want to say KTBS and KSLA have been broadcasting for 3 or 4 years (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) and KTAL still isn't in HD. What a bunch of dolts.

adphuh
03-22-07, 05:22 PM
Understood about no such thing as HD antenna I was just qualifying the answer to identify the antenna as marketed by radio Shack. I picked this one because it was less obstrusive. My wife ain't buying putting up one of those like I use to have up before cable. From four miles a pair of indoor rabbit ears should easily work to pick up an insight station from what I have read.

Veritas0Aequitas
03-22-07, 06:35 PM
Ok, is there any word on KTAL? I was under the impression they were to begin broadcasting in HD last week but that has come and passed and still no HD. I sent an email asking what's going on but of course I have yet to receive a reply. Anybody heard anything? This is really starting to get annoying. I want to say KTBS and KSLA have been broadcasting for 3 or 4 years (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) and KTAL still isn't in HD. What a bunch of dolts.

:D what I have come to learn after talking with the different techs & engineers at the stations is we are lucky they even got it hooked up right. You might notice several channels still display the wrong time and some have not even been updated since the DST swap... much less the channel show info work as mentioned by others in earlier posts.
according to the atomic clock its
17:35:00

KTBS-DT 17:38
KTAL-DT 17:45
KSLA-DT 17:34
LPB-HD 17:34
KMSS-DT 17:34 (12 seconds slow +/- .4 seconds)

digiblur
03-23-07, 03:16 AM
That will work until they do an audit. It is usually hit and miss, but since you are only paying for internet there is supposed to be a filter on your line that blocks all TV. They usually don't install it right away but sooner or later they will.

Just enjoy it while you have it! :D

A lot of times the cable co will put a block on your line that will block the entire analog band. Say the analogs run up to 73 and the digitals start at 74. Your cable modem might be in the 100's. You'll be able to scan the digital QAMs with no issues...except for digital carriers from 95-99 of course since those are in the FM/AIR band on the system would most likely be blocked out.

SHergenrader
03-23-07, 10:54 AM
:D what I have come to learn after talking with the different techs & engineers at the stations is we are lucky they even got it hooked up right. You might notice several channels still display the wrong time and some have not even been updated since the DST swap... much less the channel show info work as mentioned by others in earlier posts.
according to the atomic clock its
17:35:00

KTBS-DT 17:38
KTAL-DT 17:45
KSLA-DT 17:34
LPB-HD 17:34
KMSS-DT 17:34 (12 seconds slow +/- .4 seconds)

I wouldn't notice that because I have a DirecTV HR20 and it incorporates OTA guide data into the DirecTV guide.

Veritas0Aequitas
03-23-07, 11:35 PM
Anyone happen to know where I could pick up a used direct tv,etc. dish? It does not have to have the LNB (low noise block)/receiver.

SHergenrader
03-23-07, 11:49 PM
Anyone happen to know where I could pick up a used direct tv,etc. dish? It does not have to have the LNB (low noise block)/receiver.

I have an oval three LNB dish around my house somewhere. I will see if I can find it.

nyvram
03-25-07, 02:42 AM
Here in Monroe/Comcast, we have lost channels 432, 433 & 440 (and possibly 1 more? I think there was an LPB digi channel in the 400s that wasn't HD). Our QAM tuner on our TV will now find only 7 digital channels on Monroe/Comcast as follows:

- 750 (NBA channel not HD)
- 100.12 (Answers on Demand not HD)
- 100.4 (Fox movies? Not sure what this is..not HD)
- 84.9 (In Demand promo channel not HD)
- 83.4 (On Demand promo not HD)
- 71.8 (KTVE NBC HD)
- 71.6 (Create LPB+ not HD)

We can no longer tune:
- 433 KNOE HD
- 440 LPB HD
- 441(?)

Would anyone mind rescanning & verify if Comcast is still carrying those other signals? Its odd that it worked earlier in the week and now has gone away.

windham9
03-26-07, 05:56 PM
Ok, is there any word on KTAL? I was under the impression they were to begin broadcasting in HD last week but that has come and passed and still no HD. I sent an email asking what's going on but of course I have yet to receive a reply. Anybody heard anything? This is really starting to get annoying. I want to say KTBS and KSLA have been broadcasting for 3 or 4 years (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) and KTAL still isn't in HD. What a bunch of dolts.

KTAL was trying to make cable pay to carry their signal. I think they are in HD on cable now. Perhaps they are giving cable an "exclusive" on HD? Gives cable a reason to pay for KTAL HD if no OTA NBC-HD available. Something smells funny.

SHergenrader
03-26-07, 06:49 PM
KTAL was trying to make cable pay to carry their signal. I think they are in HD on cable now. Perhaps they are giving cable an "exclusive" on HD? Gives cable a reason to pay for KTAL HD if no OTA NBC-HD available. Something smells funny.

Yeah, I know on Comcast in Shreveport you can get KTAL HD. I think that is just ridiculous. KTAL is always trying to get more money for their so called "station". I wish they would wake up and realize they stink and don't deserve more money than the other local stations around here. I remember a few years ago they were holding out with DirecTV because they wanted more money than DirecTV was paying KTBS, KSLA, etc. to broadcast their signal. Also same thing whenever Cox cable in Bossier refused to pay KTAL to broadcast their signal on their cable system. I'm sick of KTAL. They stink and yes you are right, something does smell funny.

KeithAR2002
03-26-07, 07:28 PM
KTAL's HD signal is like gold at the end of a rainbow... we'll never find it...it's a myth ;)

KeithAR2002
03-26-07, 07:31 PM
Here in Monroe/Comcast, we have lost channels 432, 433 & 440 (and possibly 1 more? I think there was an LPB digi channel in the 400s that wasn't HD). Our QAM tuner on our TV will now find only 7 digital channels on Monroe/Comcast as follows:

- 750 (NBA channel not HD)
- 100.12 (Answers on Demand not HD)
- 100.4 (Fox movies? Not sure what this is..not HD)
- 84.9 (In Demand promo channel not HD)
- 83.4 (On Demand promo not HD)
- 71.8 (KTVE NBC HD)
- 71.6 (Create LPB+ not HD)

We can no longer tune:
- 433 KNOE HD
- 440 LPB HD
- 441(?)

Would anyone mind rescanning & verify if Comcast is still carrying those other signals? Its odd that it worked earlier in the week and now has gone away.


It sounds like Comcrap is just trying to be cheap. QAM on Suddenlink in El Dorado only brings up the NBA channel... nothing else. I'm pretty sure they want us to rent one of their pretty little boxes :rolleyes:

haley-SEA
03-26-07, 11:13 PM
Between KTVE's not showing the majority of NBC-HD programming (Today Show-3 hours Monday-Friday) and KTAL running glorious 480i on their long awaited digital signal, isn't it any wonder NBC is fast becoming America's Fourth Network. Other than The Office, My Name is Earl, and Sunday Night Football, there isn't much on the peacock network for me.

(yes my local NBC station (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT286175.html) is also part of the Nexstar cartel, but its HD)

screen capture below is KTAL via tropo enhancement this morning.

digiblur
03-26-07, 11:18 PM
Apparently someone isn't a Heroes fan... by far the best TV series I've seen in yeeearrrrss... knocks the socks off of CSI Las Vegas.

haley-SEA
03-26-07, 11:30 PM
Apparently someone isn't a Heroes fan... by far the best TV series I've seen in yeeearrrrss... knocks the socks off of CSI Las Vegas.

I'll have to catch it in reruns (or rent the DVD set from Netflix)....its one of those 1 or 2 shows that falls below the radar each season I miss at first.

SHergenrader
03-27-07, 12:03 AM
KTAL's HD signal is like gold at the end of a rainbow... we'll never find it...it's a myth ;)

Haha, so true. That's a good way of putting it.

SHergenrader
03-27-07, 12:04 AM
Apparently someone isn't a Heroes fan... by far the best TV series I've seen in yeeearrrrss... knocks the socks off of CSI Las Vegas.

I saw that show one night and it looked really good but I really didn't have any clue of what was going on. I will have to get that on DVD whenever they release the first season for it so I can catch up and start watching it.

KeithAR2002
03-27-07, 02:38 AM
Between KTVE's not showing the majority of NBC-HD programming (Today Show-3 hours Monday-Friday) and KTAL running glorious 480i on their long awaited digital signal, isn't it any wonder NBC is fast becoming America's Fourth Network. Other than The Office, My Name is Earl, and Sunday Night Football, there isn't much on the peacock network for me.

(yes my local NBC station (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT286175.html) is also part of the Nexstar cartel, but its HD)

screen capture below is KTAL via tropo enhancement this morning.

I must say I'm disappointed in KTVE. I really wish they would get the Today Show issue fixed... sound level is extremely low, as well.. along with various technical problems during their newscasts. What has happened?

All the NBC affiliates are the same. It's like they just don't care anymore. Much like NBC.

FOX isn't my favorite network, and their dramas aren't the best, but they are much more entertaining than NBC's (with the exception being Heroes). I mean, how long can "Raines" and "The Black Donnelleys" last?

Just like the saying goes: "You gotta spend money to make money." And NBC just isn't doing it.

Look at their Sunday night schedule.. all reality shows. Deal or No Deal is alright, but it's not good enough to be shown 7 days a week! :)

ER is just old and tired. This needs to be it's last season.

And the Today Show is going to FOUR hours. Hell, why don't they just change their whole network schedule to one big Today Show? I think there's some undercover people from CBS working the controls at NBC :)

As for KTVE, I think there are undercover people from KNOE working there ;)

I'm getting off my soapbox, now...lol.

KeithAR2002
03-27-07, 02:42 AM
Apparently someone isn't a Heroes fan... by far the best TV series I've seen in yeeearrrrss... knocks the socks off of CSI Las Vegas.

Heroes is great! When I first saw the ads for it, I didn't think much of it, mostly because it was a new show on NBC..and now a days, any new show on any network is just crap... no writing or creativity what so ever. What got me into Heroes was when NBC had the three hour marathon back in November or whatever. Not to worry, though... since Heroes is doing so well in the ratings, NBC is sure to cancel it... after all, they just can't stand to have something successful on their primetime schedule... and plus, it's taking an hour away from Deal or No Deal! :D

In the meantime, I have a screencap of Hayden Panettiere from when she was on Conan O'Brien, set as my desktop wallpaper ;)

KeithAR2002
03-27-07, 03:03 AM
Another note... even though there are very few in the Shreveport area that can get NBC-HD, but NBC Nightly News went in HD this week... what are some of your thoughts on this? The PQ looked great, although only the studio shots were HD. The news videos were in sd, with an NBC-HD pillar box on the sides.

haley-SEA
03-27-07, 07:46 AM
Just like the saying goes: "You gotta spend money to make money." And NBC just isn't doing it.

Look at their Sunday night schedule.. all reality shows. Deal or No Deal is alright, but it's not good enough to be shown 7 days a week! :)

Having the *entire* sunday night schedule SD in 2007 doesn't bode well for the peacock network. At least that stupid Grease show has reportedly ended. Deal or No Deal is this years Who Want To Be A Millioinaire. The shark fins are already poking up.

digiblur
03-27-07, 09:42 AM
Heroes is great! When I first saw the ads for it, I didn't think much of it, mostly because it was a new show on NBC..and now a days, any new show on any network is just crap... no writing or creativity what so ever. What got me into Heroes was when NBC had the three hour marathon back in November or whatever. Not to worry, though... since Heroes is doing so well in the ratings, NBC is sure to cancel it... after all, they just can't stand to have something successful on their primetime schedule... and plus, it's taking an hour away from Deal or No Deal! :D

In the meantime, I have a screencap of Hayden Panettiere from when she was on Conan O'Brien, set as my desktop wallpaper ;)

Yep... how can you pass this up? ;)

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Veritas0Aequitas
03-27-07, 11:15 AM
Anything is better than reality shows. Heroes is a great show but its just ONE show you cant boost your whole network on just one seasonal show. ABC at least comes out with new stuff every quarter as well as fox has several highly viewed shows. If you look at the online trends per viewers ABC holds the most with LOST and Fox holds House as its highest ranking.

ken984
03-27-07, 04:49 PM
The only thing i will suffer thru on KTAL-SD is NFL football. Until they get the HD working I refuse to watch the station. I will catch Heroes on Universal HD whenever they get around to showing it. We always talk about how backwards KTAL is and they keep lowering the bar...amazing...November 19? Nope...Christmas? Nope...New Years? Nope...Any day now...?? RIGHT.....the check is in the mail, we gave at the office....keep going KTAL...LOL

SHergenrader
03-27-07, 06:12 PM
Is anybody not getting a signal on KSLA, KLTS, KMSS, and KSHV? I am not getting a signal on any of those channels. I have DirecTV and on the SD channels of KMSS and KSHV it says "No ned to call us- we are aware that this TV station is temporarily unavailable...". KSLA and KLTS SD channels are coming in on DirecTV but I just can't pull them in OTA. Anybody else having any issues? I'm getting KTBS, KTAL, and KPXJ.

shreveportdog
03-27-07, 06:43 PM
Is anybody not getting a signal on KSLA, KLTS, KMSS, and KSHV? I am not getting a signal on any of those channels. I have DirecTV and on the SD channels of KMSS and KSHV it says "No ned to call us- we are aware that this TV station is temporarily unavailable...". KSLA and KLTS SD channels are coming in on DirecTV but I just can't pull them in OTA. Anybody else having any issues? I'm getting KTBS, KTAL, and KPXJ.

I'm getting the same thing on my DirecTV boxes & also no OTA either. lots of bad storms went through today all around the towers. power lines were down in some towns in that area. i hope they get them back on soon as House is on tonight. here is a quick list of stations i can't receive now;

DirecTV SD
KTBS 3
KLTS 24
KMSS 33
KSHV 45

OTA DT
KSLA 12-1, 12-2, 12,3
KMSS 33-1
LPB 24-1, 24-3, 24-5

SHergenrader
03-27-07, 07:05 PM
I'm getting the same thing on my DirecTV boxes & also no OTA either. lots of bad storms went through today all around the towers. power lines were down in some towns in that area. i hope they get them back on soon as House is on tonight. here is a quick list of stations i can't receive now;

DirecTV SD
KTBS 3
KLTS 24
KMSS 33
KSHV 45

OTA DT
KSLA 12-1, 12-2, 12,3
KMSS 33-1
LPB 24-1, 24-3, 24-5


Ok, thanks. I figured it had something to do with the storms but I wanted to make sure it wasn't just on my end. I don't have the same DirecTV SD channels as you too. Thanks for the update.

Veritas0Aequitas
03-27-07, 09:23 PM
They seem to be experiencing problems still just storm related.

KeithAR2002
03-28-07, 06:13 PM
Yep... how can you pass this up? ;)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5787/vlcsnap1952390eh0.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap1952390eh0.jpg)
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9188/vlcsnap1948844xf7.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap1948844xf7.jpg)
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Those are some excellent screens! All I have are the ones I got from Conan's show :(

What network are you watching it on? I saw the "Global" logo in the background...where is that?

KeithAR2002
03-28-07, 06:17 PM
Anything is better than reality shows. Heroes is a great show but its just ONE show you cant boost your whole network on just one seasonal show. ABC at least comes out with new stuff every quarter as well as fox has several highly viewed shows. If you look at the online trends per viewers ABC holds the most with LOST and Fox holds House as its highest ranking.


I agree with you on this. What they'll do is cancel Heroes after it has soared in the ratings... that's what they do when they get a hit: they drop it! My prime example is West Wing. It's crazy... and Im lucky I even discovered Heroes.. I figured it was just another stupid NBC drama, but I was wrong.

I read that they might drop Crossing Jordan and Medium after this season. If they do, CBS said they will pick up Medium, since it is actually produced by CBS Television. Just a little info to pass along..

KeithAR2002
03-28-07, 06:20 PM
The only thing i will suffer thru on KTAL-SD is NFL football. Until they get the HD working I refuse to watch the station. I will catch Heroes on Universal HD whenever they get around to showing it. We always talk about how backwards KTAL is and they keep lowering the bar...amazing...November 19? Nope...Christmas? Nope...New Years? Nope...Any day now...?? RIGHT.....the check is in the mail, we gave at the office....keep going KTAL...LOL


When exactly did they go full power? A month ago?? I would imagine they'll take their time to hook up the HD, because they are full power now, and they meet FCC requirements, so it'll be like pulling teeth getting them to do something they don't HAVE to do :mad:

digiblur
03-28-07, 06:25 PM
Those are some excellent screens! All I have are the ones I got from Conan's show :(

What network are you watching it on? I saw the "Global" logo in the background...where is that?

Those are from a BellExpressVU receiver. Global-HD shows Heroes on Sunday nights a day before NBC shows it on Monday...but it's only in 720p as you can see. I usually cap all the Heroes episodes on Monday nights in 1080i via OTA and a My-HD 130 card. So I can get all the screenshots you want. ;)

dufusdad
03-28-07, 06:40 PM
Last week from KTAL:The status report is we are done with the build out. We still have some
closed caption, EAS and storm warn issues to work through. NBC does not
provide CC in HD so we are having to create an interface that will strip the
cc of the analog and put it on the HD. ABC and CBS does this but not NBC.
Lucky us. We took the digital transmitter up to full power and have been
letting it bake in. She is doing fine. Once the CC, EAS and SW are in line
we are good.

One other issue that has been holding us up is that our new Larcan analog
transmitter has failed. We have been running on our backup transmitter for
a little more than a week. So our engineering staff has been focus on that.

Trust me...we are working as hard and as fast as we can.

Thanks for your patience.

Scott

haley-SEA
03-28-07, 07:38 PM
Keith,

Global (www.globaltv.ca) is one of the Canadian commercial English-language broadcast networks. CTV (http://www.ctv.ca) and the long-time public broadcaster CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/television) are the other nationwide networks. CBC although a publicly funded network is more commerical in nature than PBS and airs adversting.

Off topic: I've logged CBC (and the French language sister network SRC "Radio-Canada"), and CTV via analog E-skip on the low VHF channels (2-6). Canada will remain with NTSC for sometime after the US Shutoff, although our DTV system (ATSC) is already being used there.

KeithAR2002
03-29-07, 12:16 AM
I usually cap all the Heroes episodes on Monday nights in 1080i via OTA and a My-HD 130 card. So I can get all the screenshots you want. ;)

Having an HD tuner for your computer sure does come in handy. I got the OnAir GT (USB tuner) back in February, and it's the best purchase I've made in a long time. Do you have TSReader? Another good program to have :)

KeithAR2002
03-29-07, 12:19 AM
Last week from KTAL:The status report is we are done with the build out. We still have some
closed caption, EAS and storm warn issues to work through. NBC does not
provide CC in HD so we are having to create an interface that will strip the
cc of the analog and put it on the HD. ABC and CBS does this but not NBC.
Lucky us. We took the digital transmitter up to full power and have been
letting it bake in. She is doing fine. Once the CC, EAS and SW are in line
we are good.

One other issue that has been holding us up is that our new Larcan analog
transmitter has failed. We have been running on our backup transmitter for
a little more than a week. So our engineering staff has been focus on that.

Trust me...we are working as hard and as fast as we can.

Thanks for your patience.

Scott

KTAL has the Shreveport market right where they want it. Thye know people are furious that they haven't got the HD up and running, but there's no way of getting NBC-HD OTA from anywhere else in SHV/Bossier, so they can keep delaying as much as they want. That's what upsets me :mad:

digiblur
03-29-07, 12:21 AM
KTAL has the Shreveport market right where they want it. Thye know people are furious that they haven't got the HD up and running, but there's no way of getting NBC-HD OTA from anywhere else in SHV/Bossier, so they can keep delaying as much as they want. That's what upsets me :mad:

Isn't it great to have a local station driving people to "moved" HD satellite systems! Sounds like the N.O. market with no NBC DT signal and no HD NBC on the cable systems.

KeithAR2002
03-29-07, 01:04 AM
I guess the owners of KTAL don't realize that it's easy to "move"... I guess they think we're all a bunch of mindless sheep, and we're not smart enough to "move" to another city :rolleyes:

Myself, I've gotten used to watching NYC News and seeing Sue and Chuck every night :) Even though KTVE is in HD, their signal usually drops out so much and is usually plagued with technical issues... I find it easier to watch WNBC-HD...it's sad that our local stations can't pledge the same quality that New York does :o

windham9
03-29-07, 05:36 PM
Last week from KTAL:The status report is we are done with the build out. We still have some
closed caption, EAS and storm warn issues to work through. NBC does not
provide CC in HD so we are having to create an interface that will strip the
cc of the analog and put it on the HD. ABC and CBS does this but not NBC.
Lucky us. We took the digital transmitter up to full power and have been
letting it bake in. She is doing fine. Once the CC, EAS and SW are in line
we are good.

One other issue that has been holding us up is that our new Larcan analog
transmitter has failed. We have been running on our backup transmitter for
a little more than a week. So our engineering staff has been focus on that.

Trust me...we are working as hard and as fast as we can.

Thanks for your patience.

Scott

KSLA drops out of HD during weather. HD "text insertion" capability would avoid going SD.

Emails I recd from KSLA in Jan. NFL was SD during weather.

"When weather conditions affect the Ark-la-Tek we have to comply with FCC
rules passing on weather information. You did seen however the game in
HD Right, except when we had to cut in.
Ted Small
Director of Engineering & Operations
KSLA-TV-DT"

"Ted,
Yes it was HD, thanks for replying! I'm sure few if any stations can
insert weather info into the HD stream. I'm guessing that would be a very
expensive item. Perhaps one day switching and local ad insertions could be made
automatic. The HD looks GOOD, low set prices are allowing many more people to enjoy! CBS has the best primetime shows, hope they go 100% HD for the NFL next season,,,
Brad"

"All that you mentioned will come in time, maybe sometime in 08, so stay
tuned.
Ted Small
Director of Engineering & Operations
KSLA-TV-DT"

CBS NFL 100% HD, auto switching, HD weather insertion in 2008.
KTAL could "catch up"? Rotator & KETK NBC56 solves my problem, but not much help to my neighbors to the east.

KeithAR2002
04-01-07, 01:02 AM
windham,

How is KSLA's DT signal from Center? I noticed that their coverage area barely reaches there.. do you get any dropouts?

windham9
04-02-07, 03:41 AM
windham,

How is KSLA's DT signal from Center? I noticed that their coverage area barely reaches there.. do you get any dropouts?

87-92% signal strength, when I'm pointed at KSLA, and can still watch it dropout-free 50% of the time when I'm pointed at KETK, 80% if at KFXK. But KTBS, KPXJ, KMSS are 95-98%, and those rarely fail to maintain the minimum signal at any antenna orientation. KTAL (further than KSLA), its a 6 degree adjustment here, is a little stronger than KSLA. 90-95%, but only been up a few weeks. Time will tell there. 65'-80' tower, with one of those biggest CM quantums that they don't make now, would do wonders. Trees are blocking me every way now, except east. And pointed east I often get KNOE, and the FOX14 analog is good. Pulled several digital signals out of Miss. on good nights & mornings.Some more height and I could watch all that I get now without pointing. Dallas, Houston-Beaumont on good nights. It could happen one day. Free HDTV makes it worth it. You are right about KSLA, shoulda went 1MW. Their analog here was always best, even better than KTBS, and KTAL analog has ALWAYS been bad here. Years ago the Cowboys used to have most games on KSLA, 2-3 Mon. night games on KTBS, and 1-2 on KTAL. I dreaded the NBC games then. When they got NFL again it was deja-vu. Until KETK HD. I haven't had satellite or cable in years. Go to family or friends for that ESPN/NFLN game. My fishing buddy got an HD set, maybe he will upgrade his dish to HD. See a little of that HD thats not free. And not as good as the best OTA?

Ronald_Jeremy
04-02-07, 12:21 PM
I am really starting to subscribe to the theory that we will never get HD OTA from KTAL.

They are only giving the HD feed to cable companies. This will force people to cable for HD. And KTAL gets paid for each cable subscriber. They don't get paid for OTA. And they are digital OTA which means they are in compliance with the FCC.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-02-07, 01:02 PM
Not just cable they want you to get digital cable which costs more and doesn't offer anything more channel wise than you can already get for the same price. with over 80+ analog channels I barely watch 1/4 of those on a regular basis but yet they force you to pay for all of them.

haley-SEA
04-02-07, 07:52 PM
I got the Shreveport OTA's this morning. Still no HD for KTAL. Shreveport market deserves better since Nex$tar has some HD/full power OTA's on the air (KARK, KNWA) in other markets.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-02-07, 07:58 PM
I am really starting to subscribe to the theory that we will never get HD OTA from KTAL.

They are only giving the HD feed to cable companies. This will force people to cable for HD. And KTAL gets paid for each cable subscriber. They don't get paid for OTA. And they are digital OTA which means they are in compliance with the FCC.


That sounds logical and all but that would mean KMSS, KTBS and KSLA would follow suite but they still broadcast ota in HD when available. I don't know the FCC rules exactly but I was under the assumption when HD is broadcast from source they must carry it to end user. (someone feel free to chime in with the official rules).

Ronald_Jeremy
04-02-07, 08:55 PM
That sounds logical and all but that would mean KMSS, KTBS and KSLA would follow suite but they still broadcast ota in HD when available. I don't know the FCC rules exactly but I was under the assumption when HD is broadcast from source they must carry it to end user. (someone feel free to chime in with the official rules).Nah, KMSS, KTBS, and KSLA are good stations. KTAL has always been low-budget and third rate. They got greedy with the cable companies a few years ago. And now they think they have found a way to squeeze out another dollar. And they have. But it will backfire on them. They are more than HD capable. That was proven with the Cowboys/Saints game.

As for FCC rules, all that is required is broadcasting in 'digital' by 2009. KTAL is now in compliance. HD is not a requirement by the FCC.

SHergenrader
04-02-07, 11:46 PM
Nah, KMSS, KTBS, and KSLA are good stations. KTAL has always been low-budget and third rate. They got greedy with the cable companies a few years ago. And now they think they have found a way to squeeze out another dollar. And they have. But it will backfire on them. They are more than HD capable. That was proven with the Cowboys/Saints game.

As for FCC rules, all that is required is broadcasting in 'digital' by 2009. KTAL is now in compliance. HD is not a requirement by the FCC.

Yeah, KTAL is always trying to get more money when they are the worst OTA station in our area. I wonder how NBC feels about KTAL if they know how they operate?

haley-SEA
04-03-07, 08:34 AM
Yeah, KTAL is always trying to get more money when they are the worst OTA station in our area. I wonder how NBC feels about KTAL if they know how they operate?

Honestly, the problem isn't the HD viewers with DLP's and Plasmas/LCD driving the mass of viewers for mid-major market local TV but grandpa with his 25" analog consoles in rural areas and small towns on antennas or analog cable. In my area even with high DBS penetration (from both companies), there are still large numbers of OTA only viewers that are unaware of digital OTA TV, much less HDTV.

In the Little Rock market (until March 2006), the NBC here was analog only save for a small SDTV transmission that covered metro Little Rock at best. Although ABC (KATV) was moderately low power until the fall of 2006 it had HD passthough from at least 2003 onward as I've been told. The now CW affliate and Fox were full power from at least 2004.

I think part of the reason NBC has not pushed HD in primetime is partly due to a sizable number of their afffliates that are owned by Nex$tar. Sunday night which is the showcase night for TV, NBC has NO HD programming. The thusday night lineup, the sitcom Scrubs is still SD (it is a holdover from NBC's glory days).

As much as television has changed, it seems with the current network/affiliate system its still the same as when the Honeymooners, Milton Berle, and Lucy were on the airwaves.

KeithAR2002
04-05-07, 01:59 AM
87-92% signal strength, when I'm pointed at KSLA, and can still watch it dropout-free 50% of the time when I'm pointed at KETK, 80% if at KFXK. But KTBS, KPXJ, KMSS are 95-98%, and those rarely fail to maintain the minimum signal at any antenna orientation. KTAL (further than KSLA), its a 6 degree adjustment here, is a little stronger than KSLA. 90-95%, but only been up a few weeks. Time will tell there. 65'-80' tower, with one of those biggest CM quantums that they don't make now, would do wonders.......

I would LOVE to have an 80 foot tower..life would be perfect then... but I think it'll be a while before I have one... unless I sell an arm and a leg. I long for the day when I can have one... just the thought gets my heart pumping :-D And OTA-HD definitely looks best...much better than Directv "HD".

Speaking of KSLA, I had pretty good luck with them for that one week the KNOE translator on CH 18 was off the air here (last summer). I realized the CH18 signal was so strong, that it was interfering with KSLA-DT. I sent a complaint letter to KNOE, but of course they don't care. And why should they? Im trying to watch a better CBS affiliate. If KNOE would move their DT signal to UHF, I wouldn't have to worry about it. Currently, I can't get CBS-HD OTA... except for the occasional drop-out plagued DT signal from KNOE. How often are you able to get KNOE's signal from there?

KeithAR2002
04-05-07, 02:01 AM
Nah, KMSS, KTBS, and KSLA are good stations. KTAL has always been low-budget and third rate. They got greedy with the cable companies a few years ago. And now they think they have found a way to squeeze out another dollar. And they have. But it will backfire on them. They are more than HD capable. That was proven with the Cowboys/Saints game.

As for FCC rules, all that is required is broadcasting in 'digital' by 2009. KTAL is now in compliance. HD is not a requirement by the FCC.


yeah, I wouldn't count on them flipping the switch anytime soon. Everyone in the market should complain to Nex$tar corporate and NBC... that's probably the only thing that might work. Has anyone emailed KTAL and confronted them on having HD on cable?

KeithAR2002
04-05-07, 02:02 AM
Yeah, KTAL is always trying to get more money when they are the worst OTA station in our area. I wonder how NBC feels about KTAL if they know how they operate?


I think it's fitting that KTAL is an NBC affiliate. They deserve to be affiliated with the #4 rated network :rolleyes: It seems like all the NBC affiliates are getting kind of trashy now a days, from what I've seen.

KeithAR2002
04-05-07, 02:05 AM
I think part of the reason NBC has not pushed HD in primetime is partly due to a sizable number of their afffliates that are owned by Nex$tar. Sunday night which is the showcase night for TV, NBC has NO HD programming. The thusday night lineup, the sitcom Scrubs is still SD (it is a holdover from NBC's glory days).

As much as television has changed, it seems with the current network/affiliate system its still the same as when the Honeymooners, Milton Berle, and Lucy were on the airwaves.

I was doing some research, and noticed that Nex$tar owns more NBC affiliates than any other company... they owned the least amount of ABC affiliates. Maybe it's just cheaper to be affiliated with NBC... if they still pay networks for affiliation...

stdjsb25
04-05-07, 03:27 AM
By the way, after a little bit of googling... I found a very good map that shows the coverage of the full power signal for KTAL-DT. I hope some of you will find this useful.

http://i18.tinypic.com/2mnoll2.gif

Any idea where we can get those maps for other stations?

lawmanjcl
04-05-07, 08:53 AM
Has anyone emailed KTAL and confronted them on having HD on cable?

I am a Texarkana CableOne subscriber. Except for that brief period last year, I am not receiving a KTAL high-def signal.

SHergenrader
04-05-07, 09:37 AM
yeah, I wouldn't count on them flipping the switch anytime soon. Everyone in the market should complain to Nex$tar corporate and NBC... that's probably the only thing that might work. Has anyone emailed KTAL and confronted them on having HD on cable?

We should all email Nexstar and NBC. It probably won't do any good but it's worth a shot.

SHergenrader
04-05-07, 09:39 AM
yeah, I wouldn't count on them flipping the switch anytime soon. Everyone in the market should complain to Nex$tar corporate and NBC... that's probably the only thing that might work. Has anyone emailed KTAL and confronted them on having HD on cable?

Yeah, I've emailed KTAL about being HD on cable but of course I never received a response.

SHergenrader
04-05-07, 09:40 AM
Can anybody that has Comcast cable confirm that KTAL is still being broadcasted in HD on their system?

SHergenrader
04-05-07, 09:42 AM
I think it's fitting that KTAL is an NBC affiliate. They deserve to be affiliated with the #4 rated network :rolleyes: It seems like all the NBC affiliates are getting kind of trashy now a days, from what I've seen.

Yeah, NBC doesn't really have anything on their network that I watch besides Sunday Night Football. I used to watch Deal or No Deal but that isn't in HD so it didn't matter.

windham9
04-05-07, 10:12 AM
I would LOVE to have an 80 foot tower..life would be perfect then... but I think it'll be a while before I have one... unless I sell an arm and a leg. I long for the day when I can have one... just the thought gets my heart pumping :-D And OTA-HD definitely looks best...much better than Directv "HD".

Speaking of KSLA, I had pretty good luck with them for that one week the KNOE translator on CH 18 was off the air here (last summer). I realized the CH18 signal was so strong, that it was interfering with KSLA-DT. I sent a complaint letter to KNOE, but of course they don't care. And why should they? Im trying to watch a better CBS affiliate. If KNOE would move their DT signal to UHF, I wouldn't have to worry about it. Currently, I can't get CBS-HD OTA... except for the occasional drop-out plagued DT signal from KNOE. How often are you able to get KNOE's signal from there?

KNOE-DT's on now(some dropout), and their analog too. At least 20% of nights and/or mornings I'd think. Got'em a few times in afternoon during NFL. My closest ABC, KTRE, is on VHF-11. WHY? I sure the electric bill is cheaper using VHF.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-05-07, 04:50 PM
Any idea where we can get those maps for other stations?
Here (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/audio/tvq.html)

Did anyone notice on analog Comcast Shreveport KPXJ aka UPN chan 2 is now TV-Guide and chan 9 is UPN?

KeithAR2002
04-05-07, 05:26 PM
The coverage maps are located on each station's FCC database file, under "Service Contour Map". Here is the link to all the Shreveport DMA stations, click on "Complete FCC Data" to get to the FCC file.

radiostationworld.com/locations/United_States_of_America/Louisiana/tv_information.asp?m=shr
You can also check other stations in the US, by simply click on the corresponding state at this link - radiostationworld.com/Locations/United_States_of_America/usastates.asp

The FCC maps aren't as nice as that KTAL one, but you have to pay to get all those nice, detailed service maps. The FCC maps simply show the coverage area with a blue marker. Still comes in very, very handy. Hope this helps.

EDIT - What is wrong with hyperlinks on the forum?

SHergenrader
04-05-07, 11:26 PM
Here (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/audio/tvq.html)

Did anyone notice on analog Comcast Shreveport KPXJ aka UPN chan 2 is now TV-Guide and chan 9 is UPN?

I have Comcast at work and I read that they were changing those channels around but I just didn't know when.

Ronald_Jeremy
04-06-07, 12:26 AM
I may just call and try to bust KTAL's balls next week. I feel the need to screw with them about their future plans as well as their past 'ineptitude' due to 'technical difficulties'. :p

As stated above they really don't have much HD, but they will squeeze a turnip if they can get more blood.

That is evident from their pissing match with Cox in Bossier. Cox went to the extent of giving antennas to their customers to get KTAL. KTAL knew that eventually Cox would give in to the requested renumeration that KTAL wanted when Cox looked at the overall cost of providing antennas.

Glad I live in Nashville, TN though!!! ;) :D Gonna get Sunday night football in HD despite that piss ant wannabe TV station based in Texarkana. :)

KeithAR2002
04-06-07, 01:58 AM
I may just call and try to bust KTAL's balls next week. I feel the need to screw with them about their future plans as well as their past 'ineptitude' due to 'technical difficulties'. :p

As stated above they really don't have much HD, but they will squeeze a turnip if they can get more blood.

That is evident from their pissing match with Cox in Bossier. Cox went to the extent of giving antennas to their customers to get KTAL. KTAL knew that eventually Cox would give in to the requested renumeration that KTAL wanted when Cox looked at the overall cost of providing antennas.

Glad I live in Nashville, TN though!!! ;) :D Gonna get Sunday night football in HD despite that piss ant wannabe TV station based in Texarkana. :)

I despise KTAL, and KTVE for that matter. Hell, I despise NBC! Who do they have running these establishments? Monkeys? The only thing I like about NBC-HD is the fact that they have Leno and Conan in HD... as for their "sitcoms", that's a waste of HD cameras. Someone should do these two stations a favor, and go sabotage their tansmitters ;) (Just kidding, of course, in case I get sued for terroristic threatening!)

It's plain to see why CBS is the most watched network. They are actually creative and want to please viewers.

You know you're watching KTAL/KTVE when -

1) Maury Povich is on
2) Divorce Court is on
3) Seeing Heidi York or Jenifer Andrews causes you to go blind
4) You catch Pat Robertson preaching and being crazy on the 700 Club
5) Paid Programming Marathon
6) Continuous "technical difficulties"
7) One must take an anti-depressant or a shot of whiskey while watching

Laugh if you want, but you all know I'm right!

What is up with all these lowly NBC affiliates? I'm thankful to "live" in Mena, so I can get WNBC :) It's funny when I prefer to watch New York local news, as opposed to our "local" news. I can get betternews from Sue and Chuck on WNBC... because KTAL/KTVE simply have a bunch of crap that doesn't matter to the Ark-La-Tex.... a bunch of file footage.. and crap that I don't care about. Who cares about Anna Nicole's baby's daddy? Who cares if Britney Spears spread her skirt open to the cameras? Their local news is just one big tabloid!

Alright, enough of my ranting... Im just sick of our "local" NBC stations, and frankly, I refuse to watch them.

KeithAR2002
04-06-07, 02:01 AM
KNOE-DT's on now(some dropout), and their analog too. At least 20% of nights and/or mornings I'd think. Got'em a few times in afternoon during NFL. My closest ABC, KTRE, is on VHF-11. WHY? I sure the electric bill is cheaper using VHF.


Well I picked up KNOE-DT this evening for about five minutes during Letterman, of course, it was plagued with pixelation. I really think UHF is better for digital television... VHF, even hi-VHF, is prone and vunerable to interference from distant stations and various other things, which kills a digital signal. I don't even want to think about living in a market that has a DT signal on VHF-lo :eek:

haley-SEA
04-06-07, 06:36 PM
I don't even want to think about living in a market that has a DT signal on VHF-lo :eek:

Guess that leaves Little Rock out, at least until Feb 2009

windham9
04-06-07, 09:04 PM
I despise KTAL, and KTVE for that matter. Hell, I despise NBC! Who do they have running these establishments? Monkeys? The only thing I like about NBC-HD is the fact that they have Leno and Conan in HD... as for their "sitcoms", that's a waste of HD cameras. Someone should do these two stations a favor, and go sabotage their tansmitters ;) (Just kidding, of course, in case I get sued for terroristic threatening!)

It's plain to see why CBS is the most watched network. They are actually creative and want to please viewers.

You know you're watching KTAL/KTVE when -

1) Maury Povich is on
2) Divorce Court is on
3) Seeing Heidi York or Jenifer Andrews causes you to go blind
4) You catch Pat Robertson preaching and being crazy on the 700 Club
5) Paid Programming Marathon
6) Continuous "technical difficulties"
7) One must take an anti-depressant or a shot of whiskey while watching

Laugh if you want, but you all know I'm right!

What is up with all these lowly NBC affiliates? I'm thankful to "live" in Mena, so I can get WNBC :) It's funny when I prefer to watch New York local news, as opposed to our "local" news. I can get betternews from Sue and Chuck on WNBC... because KTAL/KTVE simply have a bunch of crap that doesn't matter to the Ark-La-Tex.... a bunch of file footage.. and crap that I don't care about. Who cares about Anna Nicole's baby's daddy? Who cares if Britney Spears spread her skirt open to the cameras? Their local news is just one big tabloid!

Alright, enough of my ranting... Im just sick of our "local" NBC stations, and frankly, I refuse to watch them.

NASCAR left NBC, too bad the NFL has their big game on there. Flex schedule is awful for us season ticket holders too. Get home at 3 am instead of 7 pm. Only 2 of 8 Dallas home games were noon kickoff last year. The 3 pm games are tolerable, but when NBC decides a few days before that they want the Dallas game, it makes me hate them more. Ticket holders are getting the shaft. Viewers are getting the 480i shaft too. Thanks Nexstar & NBC.

dufusdad
04-07-07, 06:28 PM
Yes KTAL is HD on Comcast in Shreveport.I have not been able to talk to anyone at KTAL on the phone concerning why no OTA HD.The engineers are always said to be "at the transmitter" and the manager is always "In a meeting". Very aggravating.

windham9
04-08-07, 04:20 PM
Yes KTAL is HD on Comcast in Shreveport.I have not been able to talk to anyone at KTAL on the phone concerning why no OTA HD.The engineers are always said to be "at the transmitter" and the manager is always "In a meeting". Very aggravating.

KTAL is possibly giving Comcast an "exclusive". Wonder how much they might be paying KTAL to "further delay" OTA HD if so? People should tell NBC how being forced to pay for cable to see "free" NBC HD makes them feel. KTAL has a DT transmitter burning 1MW 24/7 at 480i and is passing NBC HD to Comcast. Some judge ought to order them to flip the switch or quit passing HD to comcast. Anybody got a lawyer buddy to ask? If they are still 480i by football, perhaps we could all do a class action lawsuit? I heard the comcast-ktal NBC-HD has some bars in it. Perhaps they just haven't got the bugs out yet. We'll see.

TV Advertisers- More customers see your ads when you do business with stations that are full power HD over-the-air as well as cable and satellite. OTA is the best quality and a large percentage of mid and upper income homes are watching at least one HD set. Many advertisers are producing their spots in HD. The only commercial I really watch anymore is an HD spot. So if you are advertising on NBC, you should be paying a lot less for spots. Run some HD spots on CBS during primetime, and then see the results. NBC needs to force its affiliates to get their act together.

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MaryS910
04-08-07, 06:44 PM
I recently hooked up my long range outdoor scanner antenna (which is 35 feet above house) to my new Samsung LN-S2651D LCD tv seeing what OTA signals I could pickup in my area (Keithville) . I am picking up clearly all the available signals in my area 30+ miles out. One thing I noticed was that CBS HD isnt showing up correctly of sorts. Heres a picture of what im talking about.

Is anyone else having this problem in the area?

That is a problem with Samsung LCD TVs and KSLA when using an OTA antenna to pick up HD. We bought a Samsung 3251D and KSLA and Samsung both denied the problem of the half green screen. Finally, a guy who works in the TV dept at Best Buy on Youree Drive confirmed it and said he had seen it on many home installations he had gone on. He even switched their signal to OTA at the store for me and all the Samsungs went to the half green screen when on KSLA Channel 12. He also went back in the notes they receive and the problem was also acknowledged there.

The Asst Manager at Best Buy didn't want to admit it but finally caved in and said that he had tried to stop carrying the Samsungs for that very reason as he got so many returned.

Odd thing though, when we updgraded to the DISH 622 HD receiver and plugged our OTA antenna into the back of it, the green half screen stopped and CBS looks normal again although their sound isn't as good as the other local HD channels.

KeithAR2002
04-08-07, 09:06 PM
I noticed the Samsung problem in Best Buy, too... that's why I didn't buy one. If KSLA's OTA signal is okay with the 622 receiver, then it must be the built-in Samsung tuner that has the problem....

windham9
04-08-07, 10:41 PM
I noticed the Samsung problem in Best Buy, too... that's why I didn't buy one. If KSLA's OTA signal is okay with the 622 receiver, then it must be the built-in Samsung tuner that has the problem....

Bought the $894 RCA 52" at walmart last year, Would not properly resolve KSLA. Worked great on all others. including KYTX CBS HD. Retuned set, but KSLA has a little issue somewhere.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-08-07, 10:59 PM
Samsung is picking my 2006 LN-S2651D up this week and setting up a brand new LN-T2653H which are not even available locally yet. Will let everyone know if the ksla problem was solved with the new software/firmware. BTW anyone having that issue samsung says they cannot service the arklatex because the closest is over 83 Miles and they will not send them that far so they will just replace it. After looking into the samsung software involved I do not think samsung is at fault. Considering it ONLY effects the signal from KSLA and no where else in the US (which samsung tech looked up for me) leaves me believing KSLA set something up wrong and spent lots of money on whatever it is and Is not about to change it out for $$$ reasons to satisfy samsung customers when they can just blame Samsung.

windham9
04-09-07, 03:13 PM
Samsung is picking my 2006 LN-S2651D up this week and setting up a brand new LN-T2653H which are not even available locally yet. Will let everyone know if the ksla problem was solved with the new software/firmware. BTW anyone having that issue samsung says they cannot service the arklatex because the closest is over 83 Miles and they will not send them that far so they will just replace it. After looking into the samsung software involved I do not think samsung is at fault. Considering it ONLY effects the signal from KSLA and no where else in the US (which samsung tech looked up for me) leaves me believing KSLA set something up wrong and spent lots of money on whatever it is and Is not about to change it out for $$$ reasons to satisfy samsung customers when they can just blame Samsung.

Its a KSLA issue, but most tuners aren't affected. I returned an RCA to walmart. They said it was fine, put it on floor and sold it. It was, unless watching KSLA OTA. Almost tried another, but figured it'd be the same.

MaryS910
04-10-07, 10:58 AM
That sounds logical and all but that would mean KMSS, KTBS and KSLA would follow suite but they still broadcast ota in HD when available. I don't know the FCC rules exactly but I was under the assumption when HD is broadcast from source they must carry it to end user. (someone feel free to chime in with the official rules).

Darrell Rebouche, formerly of KTAL, posted this on his blog :

The last time I checked with someone at KTAL, they still were battling problems at the transmitter. They have a direct fiber link to Shreveport cable. So, I guess they figure it's better to give HD service to some rather than none.
As a viewer, it is extremely frustrating to NOT have NBC in HD. I actually applied for a waiver from DirecTv, but of course the station denied permission.
They were hoping to be up in full-power HD before Thanksgiving. It's interesting that the GM stopped posting HD updates on their website. I know him and can tell you this frusrtates him, as well. I stopped calling and asking. I just turn on the digital channel every couple of days to check.

haley-SEA
04-10-07, 11:13 AM
i fully expect KTAL to be transmitting 480i the *next* tropo opening to Shreveport. Given the station's track record, is there hope that NBC can disaffiliate KTAL (give it to KPXJ perhaps) and make KTAL do with The CW (or better yet My Network TV).

At least there will be plenty of "local affiliate time" for all those informercials.

SHergenrader
04-10-07, 01:16 PM
Darrell Rebouche, formerly of KTAL, posted this on his blog :

The last time I checked with someone at KTAL, they still were battling problems at the transmitter. They have a direct fiber link to Shreveport cable. So, I guess they figure it's better to give HD service to some rather than none.
As a viewer, it is extremely frustrating to NOT have NBC in HD. I actually applied for a waiver from DirecTv, but of course the station denied permission.
They were hoping to be up in full-power HD before Thanksgiving. It's interesting that the GM stopped posting HD updates on their website. I know him and can tell you this frusrtates him, as well. I stopped calling and asking. I just turn on the digital channel every couple of days to check.

I didn't realize that Darrell didn't work for KTAL anymore. I was actually thinking about calling DirecTV and getting waivers to get the distant feed(s) of NBC but apparently they will deny them. I might try anyways.

SHergenrader
04-10-07, 01:18 PM
i fully expect KTAL to be transmitting 480i the *next* tropo opening to Shreveport. Given the station's track record, is there hope that NBC can disaffiliate KTAL (give it to KPXJ perhaps) and make KTAL do with The CW (or better yet My Network TV).

At least there will be plenty of "local affiliate time" for all those informercials.

I really wish NBC would revoke their affiliation with KTAL but I highly doubt that is going to happen.

windham9
04-10-07, 06:12 PM
KTAL is possibly giving Comcast an "exclusive". Wonder how much they might be paying KTAL to "further delay" OTA HD if so? People should tell NBC how being forced to pay for cable to see "free" NBC HD makes them feel. KTAL has a DT transmitter burning 1MW 24/7 at 480i and is passing NBC HD to Comcast. Some judge ought to order them to flip the switch or quit passing HD to comcast. Anybody got a lawyer buddy to ask? If they are still 480i by football, perhaps we could all do a class action lawsuit? I heard the comcast-ktal NBC-HD has some bars in it. Perhaps they just haven't got the bugs out yet. We'll see.


SUPPORT FREE BROADCAST HDTV

The right judge might sort things out.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-10-07, 08:06 PM
NBC cans another one and plans to replace it with reality tv show coming end of arpil :confused:

simmonstwin
04-10-07, 09:04 PM
I wonder why ABC isnt broadcasting in HD tonight?? :confused:

Ronald_Jeremy
04-11-07, 09:20 AM
It wasn't channel 3's problem.

The Nashville affiliate was in SD as well.

Any of you guys having problems with KSLA dropping in and out? Mine started last night. It will drop down below 70 then lose pic then pop back up to upper 80's. I normally get this in the upper 90's.

SHergenrader
04-11-07, 09:48 AM
It wasn't channel 3's problem.

The Nashville affiliate was in SD as well.

Any of you guys having problems with KSLA dropping in and out? Mine started last night. It will drop down below 70 then lose pic then pop back up to upper 80's. I normally get this in the upper 90's.

I didn't check the signal strength last night but KSLA was coming in fine for me.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-12-07, 04:23 PM
So I got my "new" tv they replaced my LN-S2651D with a LN-T2642HX (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNT2642HXXAA.asp?page=Specifications) dont know yet if KSLA is fixed its taking forever to "learn" I did notice it adds OTA/DISH/Cable all in the same interface so ktbs analog chan 4 then next 4-1 then 4-2 without swaping to antenna mode etc. Still kinda wondering why I did not get the LN-S2653D as a replacement. On a side note who hates comcast lately?

SHergenrader
04-12-07, 05:43 PM
So I got my "new" tv they replaced my LN-S2651D with a LN-T2642HX (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNT2642HXXAA.asp?page=Specifications) dont know yet if KSLA is fixed its taking forever to "learn" I did notice it adds OTA/DISH/Cable all in the same interface so ktbs analog chan 4 then next 4-1 then 4-2 without swaping to antenna mode etc. Still kinda wondering why I did not get the LN-S2653D as a replacement. On a side note who hates comcast lately?

Hopefully KSLA will work for you with this new TV. My girlfiend had Comcast and I talked her into getting DirecTV about a month and a half ago and she loves it. I have been with D* for over 7 years and I will never go back to cable ever.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-12-07, 08:51 PM
80-2 ABC (some HD)
80-5 LPB HD
90-21 The CW
90-33 FOX (some HD)
91-3 I only see radar on this one?
91-4 TheTube?? video is very bad on this one
91-6 Create LPB+
91-14 KSLA 24/7 Stromtracker
91-45 KSHV 45 WB
104-15 ?? no video or audio on this one
114-2 NBC (some HD)
115-9 OnDemand clips (I think)


Well finally got it configured somewhat its just soooo diffrent. The firmware was seriously updated. It has a USB (service) port on the back :D
the pictures seem to be coming in clear on KSLA no green screen and CSI is showing up in HD :eek:
I do see NBC in HD via cable though.
I am getting the same stuff as shreveportdog over analog cable somehow I do NOT have digital cable only business plan internet with basic 0-78 analog channels.
it does warn me some of them are scrambled but others come through :confused:

i49mobile
04-13-07, 11:03 PM
I suddenly have two issues with my Hr20-700 Direct Tv DVR in north Bossier- I am getting 771 errors with KTBS 3.1,3-2,3-3 and do not receive KSHV 45-1. Signal meter shows approx 90 on tuner 1 and 75 on tuner 2 for KTBS and KSHV I get a 100 on tuner 1 and 94 on tuner 2. On KTAL 6-1 I get 90 on tuner 1 and 78 on tuner 2.

I have done a reboot on the unit, but this did not do anything. Any one having these issues and/or have a solution.

thanks, S

SHergenrader
04-14-07, 04:19 PM
I suddenly have two issues with my Hr20-700 Direct Tv DVR in north Bossier- I am getting 771 errors with KTBS 3.1,3-2,3-3 and do not receive KSHV 45-1. Signal meter shows approx 90 on tuner 1 and 75 on tuner 2 for KTBS and KSHV I get a 100 on tuner 1 and 94 on tuner 2. On KTAL 6-1 I get 90 on tuner 1 and 78 on tuner 2.

I have done a reboot on the unit, but this did not do anything. Any one having these issues and/or have a solution.

thanks, S

How long have you had your HR20? I get the same thing with KSHV. It's always been that way with that channel since I've had the receiver. I think D* has it mapped wrong but that's not a big deal because I don't watch anything on that channel anyways and nothing is broadcasting on KSHV in HD. As for KTBS, I'm not sure why you are having that problem. I would tell you to do a red button reset but apparently you have done that and it didn't correct the problem. Maybe try going into the antenna setup and redoing the initial OTA antenna setup and see if that corrects the problem. Also try disconnecting your OTA antenna line from the back of the receiver and reattaching it. Let me know if any of this works and if not maybe I can think of something else.

i49mobile
04-14-07, 07:08 PM
I have my Hr20 for two months-- this is my second until, first went DOA in three weeks. I have a Direct tv customer since 1994 one of the first. I have done reset, unplugged it from the power, and remove ota wire and screwed it back in. I will try the reprogramming of local OTA channels.
thanks S

SHergenrader
04-14-07, 11:54 PM
I have my Hr20 for two months-- this is my second until, first went DOA in three weeks. I have a Direct tv customer since 1994 one of the first. I have done reset, unplugged it from the power, and remove ota wire and screwed it back in. I will try the reprogramming of local OTA channels.
thanks S

I'm not sure what else you can do. Where you getting KTBS and then today you get the 771 error message?

ken984
04-16-07, 01:01 PM
Have you bee downloading the CE releases? If so that can affect your OTA on some channels. If you have force another update and get the national release and see if that clears it up. If you want to know more about it dbstalk is the place to get all the info on the HR20.

i49mobile
04-18-07, 06:19 PM
I confirmed today with KTBS that they are having issues with their HD signal. Issues are mainly on the side channels radar, local news loop, etc., however signal could be an issue on their main OTA transmission (ABC)
Also KTBS and Suddenlink are in a battle now over fees including the Bossier City system.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-18-07, 06:36 PM
I see a problem on the cable side feed but NOT on the OTA feed on any of ktbs channels.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-20-07, 01:15 PM
Anyone notice the messages ktbs has been putting out the past few days related to suddenlink?

SHergenrader
04-20-07, 03:16 PM
Anyone notice the messages ktbs has been putting out the past few days related to suddenlink?

No, what have they been saying?

Veritas0Aequitas
04-20-07, 03:27 PM
For some reason the whole "story" is not on there website but it tells you a little bit here (http://www.ktbs.com/suddenlink.cfm) They have been showing it after news broadcasts about 2 mins before the next programming airs.

SHergenrader
04-20-07, 03:53 PM
For some reason the whole "story" is not on there website but it tells you a little bit here (http://www.ktbs.com/suddenlink.cfm) They have been showing it after news broadcasts about 2 mins before the next programming airs.

Ok, thanks, I didn't realize anything was going on. I'm just glad I have satellite.

KeithAR2002
04-25-07, 12:22 AM
I hope my fellow HD enthusiasts are doing we...it's been a couple weeks since I last posted... just wanted to stop by and see what y'all think about KMSS's new newscast that started Monday. They're producing it at KADN-TV in Lafayette. I haven't had a chance to check it out, but KMSStv.com looks a lot more professional.

And about the KTBS/Suddenlink battle.... have they reached an agreement yet? Please post here tomorrow if KTBS is gone from their systems. And yes, it sure is nice to have Directv... I have three choices for ABC :-D

Ronald_Jeremy
04-25-07, 10:05 AM
I caught a commercial yesterday that said the matter is settled and Suddenlink will carry KTBS, KTBS HD, along with the two sub channels.

SHergenrader
04-25-07, 11:06 AM
I forgot about KMSS' newcast started Monday. I will have to try and check it out tonight and see how it is.

Veritas0Aequitas
04-25-07, 11:39 AM
Have not seen the kmss news at 9 any this week nor is it being shown in tvguide. The whole suddenlink ktbs thing reached a agreement basically bargaining who got what ad's which is what the whole thing ended up being about anyways.

shreveportdog
04-25-07, 02:31 PM
I had some strong storms move through this morning and I have not been able to get this channels to tune in;

24-1
24-3
24-5

All the other channels are working just fine, is anyone else having problems tuning in these channels?

Thanks

SHergenrader
04-25-07, 09:01 PM
I had some strong storms move through this morning and I have not been able to get this channels to tune in;

24-1
24-3
24-5

All the other channels are working just fine, is anyone else having problems tuning in these channels?

Thanks

All of those channels are coming in fine for me

shreveportdog
04-26-07, 11:01 AM
All of those channels are coming in fine for me

Thanks for the reply. i did get those channels back last night. now i have lost 12-1, 12-2 & 12-3. are you able to tune in these channels?

SHergenrader
04-26-07, 11:08 AM
Thanks for the reply. i did get those channels back last night. now i have lost 12-1, 12-2 & 12-3. are you able to tune in these channels?

KSLA was coming in fine for me last night but I'm not sure about this morning. I would check right now but I'm at work. I will check when I get home and post a reply.

shreveportdog
04-26-07, 03:16 PM
KSLA was coming in fine for me last night but I'm not sure about this morning. I would check right now but I'm at work. I will check when I get home and post a reply.

12-1, 12-2 & 12-3 are all working again for me now. i have only had my antenna up for 2 months or so and it was kind of odd that KSLA was working on my DirecTV receivers but not on my OTA antenna. thanks for your reply.

SHergenrader
04-26-07, 09:06 PM
12-1, 12-2 & 12-3 are all working again for me now. i have only had my antenna up for 2 months or so and it was kind of odd that KSLA was working on my DirecTV receivers but not on my OTA antenna. thanks for your reply.


Glad to hear they are working again. I emailed D* about KSHV and suggesting that maybe it is mapped wrong on the HR-20 and told them I'm getting a signal in the upper 90s and that other people that live in my area with the HR20 are unable to get KSHV too but of course they send me a reply back informing me that the receiver isn't getting signal from the antenna and that I need to readjust my antenna and if that isn't the problem to do a reset. I wish they would actually pay attention to what they are reading. Oh well.

Ronald_Jeremy
04-27-07, 02:12 PM
Anybody hear the latest on KTAL going HD.

I have an idea and need to call McCrery's office to check out FCC regs.

SHergenrader
04-27-07, 03:43 PM
Anybody hear the latest on KTAL going HD.

I have an idea and need to call McCrery's office to check out FCC regs.

I have no clue. What are you going to call McCrery's office and say? We all should call his office and complain and see if there is something he could do about this. Go here: http://mccrery.house.gov/FormCheck.asp and you can get his phone numbers and send him an email. Let me know what you are going to say and we can all call and email him about this.

SHergenrader
04-27-07, 03:51 PM
Ok, I sent him an email telling him what's going on and asked if he had any advice or if there was anything he could do to help out. If he was unable to do anything if he could point me in the right direction on anything I could do. As soon as I receive a response I will let you know.

Ronald_Jeremy
04-27-07, 04:54 PM
I am wondering if there is a law that requires public stations to provide the same signal to cable/satellite companies that they supply OTA. This would mean that if they are not broadcasting HD OTA, then they can't provide it to other companies. If not, it would be a good new regulation. Or perhaps vice versa.

MaryS910
04-27-07, 05:44 PM
Anybody hear the latest on KTAL going HD.

I have an idea and need to call McCrery's office to check out FCC regs.

What's the latest? Do you have some info? All I know is that Comcast broadcasts KTAL in HD but KTAL doesn't offer it OTA.

dufusdad
04-27-07, 06:17 PM
Here is the latest I have heard from KTAL:Yes. We have run into a technical snag with many of our re-transmitters of our digital signal. We are working diligently towards a workable solution.



Scott Thomas
VP/General Manager





3150 N. Market St.
Shreveport, LA 71107
Phone: (318) 629-6000
Fax: (318) 629-7158
Email: sthomas@ktalnews.tv

All material within this email is confidential
or privileged information. Disclosure or use
of any part of this message by persons other
than the intended recipient is prohibited.

dufusdad
04-27-07, 06:19 PM
I'm not sure I know what he means by "re-transmitters"

windham9
04-28-07, 01:01 PM
I am wondering if there is a law that requires public stations to provide the same signal to cable/satellite companies that they supply OTA. This would mean that if they are not broadcasting HD OTA, then they can't provide it to other companies. If not, it would be a good new regulation. Or perhaps vice versa.

I'll second that motion

digiblur
04-29-07, 09:58 PM
I'm not sure I know what he means by "re-transmitters"

The signal is generated at the studio. Transmitted via the STL to the transmitting site. Then retransmitted via the tower.

KeithAR2002
05-01-07, 04:50 AM
I see KTAL is still up to their old tricks. It's really a shame that NBC just doesn't go defunct.. the only show they have worth watching is Heroes... and they'll mess that up before long. I noticed on the Directv program guide this evening that NBC had Heroes scheduled from "8:00PM - 9:02PM" 9:02?? I guess the brilliant (and I use the word brilliant very lightly) executives at NBC thought "Hey...let's make Heroes run two minutes over, that way, CSI Miami will already be two minutes in, and everyone will turn back to watch the Wedding Crashers! " Pure brilliance, I tell you!

haley-SEA
05-03-07, 01:13 AM
I see KTAL is still up to their old tricks. It's really a shame that NBC just doesn't go defunct.. the only show they have worth watching is Heroes... and they'll mess that up before long. I noticed on the Directv program guide this evening that NBC had Heroes scheduled from "8:00PM - 9:02PM" 9:02?? I guess the brilliant (and I use the word brilliant very lightly) executives at NBC thought "Hey...let's make Heroes run two minutes over, that way, CSI Miami will already be two minutes in, and everyone will turn back to watch the Wedding Crashers! " Pure brilliance, I tell you!

Its a recent trick and not just NBC. ABC was doing this during the heyday of Desperate Housewives a couple of years ago letting the show run over 3 min. This is done to mess up the DVR's/Tivos(tm).

Its May 3, is KTAL HD yet y'all?

windham9
05-03-07, 08:44 AM
Its May 3, is KTAL HD yet y'all?

Maybe they are waiting untill bin laden's captured?

SHergenrader
05-03-07, 10:17 AM
Its a recent trick and not just NBC. ABC was doing this during the heyday of Desperate Housewives a couple of years ago letting the show run over 3 min. This is done to mess up the DVR's/Tivos(tm).

Its May 3, is KTAL HD yet y'all?

The reason the networks do that is so their popular shows run over into a show that is less popular in hopes that viewers will stick around and watch the next show.

Veritas0Aequitas
05-07-07, 03:40 PM
Keith, I noticed that the other day as well except everything would lag start time and end time all night even local broadcast :confused: . Also anyone know why you sometimes loose audio for 5-10 seconds whenever switching from non HD to HD like during commercials? (Even occurs on the fiber NBC HD feed sometimes.) Finally started seeing that new fox news (if you want to call it news) what a waste of airtime.

*edit* now that I think of it FX does that time run over A LOT on there shows but I always thought it was just to squeeze in more airtime cause they could.

SHergenrader
05-17-07, 03:52 PM
Just making sure everybody is doing ok on this board. It's been quite a while since somebody last posted anything.

Veritas0Aequitas
05-17-07, 04:10 PM
Noticed that as well when I stopped getting email notifications thought maybe the forum was down.

I do have a question related to the NBC fiber to comcast in Shreveport though. Has anyone noticed that when you can get NBC-HD on 114-2 channels 114-6 -4 will show up in your listing with static/blue screen even after tuning them out via the tv menu? I tried this on a sony LCD at BB and had the same result so was wondering whats going on.

dufusdad
05-19-07, 01:02 PM
I don't see how KTAL's problem with OTA could be mechanical-technical.What could possibly take this long??? It would be interesting to know.

SHergenrader
05-19-07, 02:04 PM
I don't see how KTAL's problem with OTA could be mechanical-technical.What could possibly take this long??? It would be interesting to know.


Yeah this is beyond ridiculous. I'm about to watch the Senators v. Sabres hockey game on NBC and guess what?!?! Still no HD on KTAL. I agree, it's something beyond mechanical and technical. It shouldn't take this long.

windham9
05-19-07, 03:26 PM
Yeah this is beyond ridiculous. I'm about to watch the Senators v. Sabres hockey game on NBC and guess what?!?! Still no HD on KTAL. I agree, it's something beyond mechanical and technical. It shouldn't take this long.

Nexstar is giving Comcast an exclusive on NBC HD. Charging money for free TV. TV that is paid for by advertising. It ain't HBO. Advertisers doing HD spots during primetime are getting the shaft here. They need to know that their money is better spent with CBS/ABC/FOX. In this DMA for sure. NBC should take action against this greedy affiliate. The HD worked during Dec. testing. Why else wouldn't they flip the switch? Its money for sure. But proving Comcast pays a premium to Nexstar for that switch to stay off,,,
So what gives? They will have to be forced to do it. And we viewers alone aren't enough. Three possibles to put pressure on them.
1-Advertisers demand lower rates they deserve due to no OTA HD. This will get attention. Complain to advertisers, let them know they would get better response on CBS-etc.
2-NBC orders them to comply. Perhaps a large petition of viewers/advertisers threatening a boycott, sent to NBC.
3-We find a lawyer that would do a class-action for us against Nexstar. Surely there is one great lawyer in our DMA with an appreciation for free OTA HD.

When the big sunday night game is SD every week this fall, folks wont be happy. HD may actually be fixed, if its Dallas or Saints on NBC.

haley-SEA
05-20-07, 10:21 AM
The only other place i'm aware of that this is done (for the Big Four) is Mediacom in Springfield, MO sending out ABC in HD (KSPR-DT is low power & SD only and is currently under a change of ownership and previous cheap ownership--NOT NEXSTAR in this case).

Upstate here in Arkansas (LR DMA) our public broadcaster AETN does not carry the PBS-HD channel, instead there is an exclusive deal with Comcrap to carry it 24/7 while AETN carries a very limited HD schedule (two to six shows per month, none during fundraising months). OETA in Oklahoma also has done this (with Cox) according to the local boards there. The big downside is viewers outside of metro Little Rock and those not Comcrap subs do not get to see PBS-HD.

Again, the problem folks is the Gatekeepers not so much the Networks. All this talk about localism is just a strawman to keep aquiring more signals and build a larger cartel. There is a perfectly good HD signal (KPXJ-DT) that deserves a major network in Shreveport. Let KTAL have The CW or better yet MNTV.

windham9
05-20-07, 10:31 PM
There is a perfectly good HD signal (KPXJ-DT) that deserves a major network in Shreveport. Let KTAL have The CW or better yet MNTV.

Got my vote!

SHergenrader
05-21-07, 10:39 AM
Ok, KTAL is most likely going to be broadcasting in HD by the weekend. Here is an email I received from the general manager at KTAL this morning:

Looks like we will be finalizing things this week. Look for our signal tests latter this week. If all goes well we should be able to make this weekend’s games in HD. Not a promise….but we are working to make it by Friday.



Scott Thomas

VP/GM KTAL-TV


I guess we will see what happens.

KeithAR2002
05-22-07, 12:50 AM
I'll be looking for pigs flying in the sky this weekend. When I see one take flight, I will know that KTAL is broadcasting in HD :)

KeithAR2002
05-22-07, 12:51 AM
BTW, how's the newscast on KMSS doing?

SHergenrader
05-22-07, 10:14 AM
I'll be looking for pigs flying in the sky this weekend. When I see one take flight, I will know that KTAL is broadcasting in HD :)

Haha, so true. I hope they do get it running. I would like to be able to watch the U.S. Open in HD sometime in mid June.

SHergenrader
05-22-07, 10:14 AM
BTW, how's the newscast on KMSS doing?

I'm not really sure. I haven't seen it yet. I have heard from a few people that it's a waste of time and not worth watching. That doesn't surprise me though.

windham9
05-26-07, 07:04 PM
Since last year KSHV quit working at 45.1 & 45.2. Had to tune at 44.3 for the primary, with no progam or title info. Now 44.3 is out. The 480i subchannel at 44.4 is all they have now. The primary was 1080i, but rarely ever was any HD shown. Certainly none worth watching. I'm thinking they have now abandoned HD, along with the info.
Being KMSS owns KSHV perhaps they hocked KSHV's HD processor to pay for that fancy 9 PM news.

SHergenrader
05-26-07, 07:39 PM
Since last year KSHV quit working at 45.1 & 45.2. Had to tune at 44.3 for the primary, with no progam or title info. Now 44.3 is out. The 480i subchannel at 44.4 is all they have now. The primary was 1080i, but rarely ever was any HD shown. Certainly none worth watching. I'm thinking they have now abandoned HD, along with the info.
Being KMSS owns KSHV perhaps they hocked KSHV's HD processor to pay for that fancy 9 PM news.

Has anything ever been shown in HD on KSHV? I have never seen anything in HD on that channel.

windham9
05-27-07, 12:49 AM
Has anything ever been shown in HD on KSHV? I have never seen anything in HD on that channel.

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCProgram.do?method=getDetail&pgmId=EP9027430013&sch=1181174400000&stn=43798&chn=45.1

Same show also says hd for 51.2, lol. All KSHV has up now is a 480i SD signal-44.4. The 1080i went down about a month ago. I think maybe? once I saw HD there. Back when it would set at 45.1 & 45.2, and the info worked. Was always hanging, like an undersized processor can't keep up, losing frames. 480i with no info probably is all KSHV will ever be. The KTAL listings say HD also. Non-HD channels should never show as HD. Viewers and Sponsors deserve the truth. Greedy non-HD affilates should be blacklisted as cheap, inferior advertising.

KeithAR2002
05-28-07, 02:08 AM
Well, the weekend has pretty much came and went. I don't suppose KTAL is broadcasting HD OTA yet, are they? I watched the weather report, but no pigs were forecasted to fall. Oh well..

SHergenrader
05-28-07, 09:30 AM
Well, the weekend has pretty much came and went. I don't suppose KTAL is broadcasting HD OTA yet, are they? I watched the weather report, but no pigs were forecasted to fall. Oh well..


Hahaha, yeah, they didn't broadcast anything in HD over the weekend. If they did I didn't catch it. I'll keep checking this week to see if they broadcast in HD.

windham9
05-28-07, 04:30 PM
Well, the weekend has pretty much came and went. I don't suppose KTAL is broadcasting HD OTA yet, are they? I watched the weather report, but no pigs were forecasted to fall. Oh well..

Keith, I pulled NBC-HD at 27.3 the other day! Analog 5 too. Usual 8, 14 & 8.1 too. And 23.1 & 23.2 was I think WMAO? or WAMO?
KTAL isn't going to be OTA HD untill someone stands on their neck. Advertisers, NBC, goverment?

haley-SEA
05-28-07, 05:40 PM
Keith, I pulled NBC-HD at 27.3 the other day! Analog 5 too. Usual 8, 14 & 8.1 too. And 23.1 & 23.2 was I think WMAO? or WAMO?
KTAL isn't going to be OTA HD untill someone stands on their neck. Advertisers, NBC, goverment?

On KTAL: how about a viewer boycott of KTAL's advertisers..... Given the station's previous nose-thumbing of cable viewers (which are Joe Six pack), I don't expect Shreveport broadcasting's equilvent of IMS to make progress soon on the Hach-Dee front.

WMAO-DT (25) Greenwood, MS is the 23.n in question. I can get the analog signal several times a week, but the digital is blocked out by a strong local analog religious propaganda broadcaster (also on channel 25).

KeithAR2002
05-28-07, 08:44 PM
Keith, I pulled NBC-HD at 27.3 the other day! Analog 5 too. Usual 8, 14 & 8.1 too. And 23.1 & 23.2 was I think WMAO? or WAMO?
KTAL isn't going to be OTA HD untill someone stands on their neck. Advertisers, NBC, goverment?

I wish I could get my antenna setup working properly... the power supply for my preamp went out a couple months ago, and I still haven't got a replacement. Without the preamp, all I can get is KTVE (NBC-HD) and KETZ (PBS). I can't even get KTBS or KMSS.. that's why I've been inactive on the boards.

I read somewhere that Nexstar is thinking of selling KTAL... maybe that's why they aren't doing anything... they don't want to shell out the cash?

windham9
05-29-07, 05:45 PM
On KTAL: how about a viewer boycott of KTAL's advertisers..... Given the station's previous nose-thumbing of cable viewers (which are Joe Six pack), I don't expect Shreveport broadcasting's equilvent of IMS to make progress soon on the Hach-Dee front.

WMAO-DT (25) Greenwood, MS is the 23.n in question. I can get the analog signal several times a week, but the digital is blocked out by a strong local analog religious propaganda broadcaster (also on channel 25).

Great idea! Need a list of KTAL's local "insert" ads (NBC nationwide advertisers don't write checks to NEXSTAR). I always watch NBC (in HACH-DEE) on KETK, will flip to 6.1 during break, begin making the list. I bet if 5 people call 5 advertisers, a mere 25 phone calls, could have a profound effect. If 2-3 sponsors decide KTBS/KSLA is a better value,,,
But also see Keith's post about Nexstar considering selling out. Wait & See. We can only hope!

windham9
05-29-07, 08:08 PM
I wish I could get my antenna setup working properly... the power supply for my preamp went out a couple months ago, and I still haven't got a replacement. Without the preamp, all I can get is KTVE (NBC-HD) and KETZ (PBS). I can't even get KTBS or KMSS.. that's why I've been inactive on the boards.

I read somewhere that Nexstar is thinking of selling KTAL... maybe that's why they aren't doing anything... they don't want to shell out the cash?

Can you buy just the PS? What if a shorted component in the top piece caused the PS failure? I sure don't like dropping my mast (had to in '05 before Rita's 80 mph wind got here!) but I'd even run new wire while it was down, if the wire was over 4-5 yrs old. 1 db gain (or loss) can make or break a "deep fringe" guy or DX'er. I'm sure you could ohm out preamp/coax first if you change just the PS. My setup was only 2 yrs old in 2005, didn't change the coax then, but now if I had to drop it I would. Bet putting it in pvc conduit would be worth it. Use flexible "sealtite" from ant. to amp. Metal conduit would add isolation, but costs more, increases lightening attraction.

Nexstar hopefully will sell KTAL. Sad when NBC gets beat by CBS/ABC/FOX, but to be whipped by KPXJ/KSHV!! They need to tuck tail and run. Nexstar could become an Al Jazeera affiliate. Maybe that Chavez guy down south could use Nexstars quality broadcasting. If they don't sell, we can boycott their local sponsors till they give in and FLIP THE SWITCH!

SHergenrader
05-29-07, 11:25 PM
I will definetly give the advertisers that are advertising locally through KTAL a call and/or an email and let them know what's going on. I'll try to make a list of advertisers too.

KeithAR2002
05-30-07, 12:12 AM
Can you buy just the PS?




I did once before... I bought the cheap $30.00 CM preamp from Lowe's back in January when this happened before, and it worked great.... I don't know what the problem was. This last time the PS malfunctioned, it was the same thing as the first; it just started deciding when to work by itself. I'd be getting KTBS in the upper 60's, then would drop to nothing... then back to the 60's, and so on. Last month, I looked in both the Lowe's in Shreveport and the one in Bossier, but the no longer carried CM products. The guy I asked said they were discontinuing CM products in all stores, and replacing them with Phillips products! :eek:

I'm going to see if I can get a PS from the Channel Master website.... it's crazy, I have two CM 7777's and a CM 3021, and not a power supply for either one. It saddens me to see my setup rusting away on the roof. :(



Nexstar could become an Al Jazeera affiliate.

I let out a good belly laugh when I read this line. Perhaps by some act of God, a tornado will knock down KTAL's transmitter, and NBC will have to find a new affiliate. After all the tornadoes down in Shreveport/Bossier, one would think the Almighty would have mercy on the Shreveport/Texarkana market, and knock KTAL's airwaves up into space. Ahh...we can dream, can't we?

KeithAR2002
05-30-07, 12:21 AM
By the way, something worth noting... WAPT-TV, the station in the Jackson, MS market that carries Jeopardy! and Wheel, started broadcasting both in HD on Friday, according to a post by the Chief Engineer on the Jackson board. I find the interesting news, because WJLA in Washington, DC still doesn't have Jeopardy/Wheel in HD...and they're a top 10 market! Jackson is market #91?!! I wonder when and if KTBS will begin broadcasting Jeopardy in HD...

I think we all know the depressing answer regarding Wheel in HD.... why doesn't KTBS steal the rights to Wheel from KTAL? KTAL's programming is already filled with garbage, they should make the schedule complete by replacing Wheel with Extra.

haley-SEA
05-30-07, 09:17 AM
If you are a E* HD subscriber and are still using the 811 and earlier boxes, the ViP211 has been a big improvement on OTA receive compared to the 811. I can occasionally get KTVE-DT even when pointed toward the Little Rock towers....

The downside is that the new ($20) expanded HD package is required and it requires the Dish 1000. If the 1000 is not installed, Dish will not activate the HD portion of the receiver (including OTA). OTA channels can be received without locals, but there is no guide data provided.

Now for the screenshots. The first is KARK the Nex$tar owned NBC station in Little Rock (which is my "local" DMA), the second is KTVE which is the other NBC i receive OTA digitally, and the third, the MNTV station from Little Rock KWBF which recently added HD, but stretches SD 4x3 content (which is mostly informercials though) :mad: . These were taken this morning.

SHergenrader
05-30-07, 10:09 AM
If you are a E* HD subscriber and are still using the 811 and earlier boxes, the ViP211 has been a big improvement on OTA receive compared to the 811. I can occasionally get KTVE-DT even when pointed toward the Little Rock towers....

The downside is that the new ($20) expanded HD package is required and it requires the Dish 1000. If the 1000 is not installed, Dish will not activate the HD portion of the receiver (including OTA). OTA channels can be received without locals, but there is no guide data provided.

Now for the screenshots. The first is KARK the Nex$tar owned NBC station in Little Rock (which is my "local" DMA), the second is KTVE which is the other NBC i receive OTA digitally, and the third, the MNTV station from Little Rock KWBF which recently added HD, but stretches SD 4x3 content (which is mostly informercials though) :mad: . These were taken this morning.


I like how E* lets you see the signal strength whenever you pull up the info guide for the channel you are watching. I wish D* would do that. I have to go into the setup menu and look at the signal strength for my OTA channels that a way.

SHergenrader
05-30-07, 10:01 PM
It's a miracle!!!! It must be raining pigs because KTAL is broadcasting in HD. Just unbelieveable. I never thought I would be seeing KTAL in HD OTA.

KeithAR2002
05-30-07, 11:07 PM
If you are a E* HD subscriber and are still using the 811 and earlier boxes, the ViP211 has been a big improvement on OTA receive compared to the 811. I can occasionally get KTVE-DT even when pointed toward the Little Rock towers....

The downside is that the new ($20) expanded HD package is required and it requires the Dish 1000. If the 1000 is not installed, Dish will not activate the HD portion of the receiver (including OTA). OTA channels can be received without locals, but there is no guide data provided.

Now for the screenshots. The first is KARK the Nex$tar owned NBC station in Little Rock (which is my "local" DMA), the second is KTVE which is the other NBC i receive OTA digitally, and the third, the MNTV station from Little Rock KWBF which recently added HD, but stretches SD 4x3 content (which is mostly informercials though) :mad: . These were taken this morning.


Haley,

Is KTVE still not broadcasting Today in HD? I've been working weird hours for the past couple months (til 2AM) and I'm not up at that time of the morning. They air it in HD on the weekends, though, which is crazy.

KeithAR2002
05-30-07, 11:16 PM
I like how E* lets you see the signal strength whenever you pull up the info guide for the channel you are watching. I wish D* would do that. I have to go into the setup menu and look at the signal strength for my OTA channels that a way.


I agree totally about the SS meter. Any HD reciever I've owned, the manufacturer makes it so difficult to access the meter.

KeithAR2002
05-30-07, 11:18 PM
It's a miracle!!!! It must be raining pigs because KTAL is broadcasting in HD. Just unbelieveable. I never thought I would be seeing KTAL in HD OTA.

Wow! That's very impressive... I didn't see pigs today, but perhaps they took flight while we were all asleep last night? :o How does the PQ look?

SHergenrader
05-30-07, 11:24 PM
Wow! That's very impressive... I didn't see pigs today, but perhaps they took flight while we were all asleep last night? :o How does the PQ look?


The PQ looks ok. It has some ghosting to it. Hopefully it will be cleared up soon but I guess I shouldn't complain since they finally have a HD signal.

KeithAR2002
05-30-07, 11:41 PM
The PQ looks ok. It has some ghosting to it. Hopefully it will be cleared up soon but I guess I shouldn't complain since they finally have a HD signal.

I guess they had so many complaints, they finally decided to be generous. Just in time for Summer repeats..... that figures :rolleyes:

Gary45
05-30-07, 11:49 PM
I guess they had so many complaints, they finally decided to be generous. Just in time for Summer repeats..... that figures :rolleyes:

I am getting an excellent picture (signal strength 99/100) but no audio.

bradleyj2
05-31-07, 01:03 AM
Long time lurker...First time poster.

Tonight I just flipped past KTAL...And I too noticed a HD picture. It's Conan O'Brien 1080i...BAD BAD BAD ghosting (he almost has 2 heads) and the audio cuts in and out about every 5 seconds. 92 on the signal strength. Maybe they are finally getting some work done.

Their 6.1 DT picture was bad. Anyone else notice how it had a greenish tint to it? And so does My 45 (dt 44. I too now only get 480i from them).

haley-SEA
05-31-07, 01:54 AM
Haley,

Is KTVE still not broadcasting Today in HD? .


The proof is in the pudding. KTVE is simply refusing to broadcast Today in HD during weekdays-- Period.

haley-SEA
05-31-07, 08:11 AM
I noticed about 6:38am some "flying pigs" appearing to be from Shreveport. Oh wait, thats KTAL broadcasting an HD signal.

When I went from the shack to the living room, the Vip211 displays KTAL as stretched content :mad: . No HD for Today on KTAL, at least this morning so far.

UPDATE @ 7:15am: Today is now in HDTV via KTAL-DT

SHergenrader
05-31-07, 10:13 AM
I noticed about 6:38am some "flying pigs" appearing to be from Shreveport. Oh wait, thats KTAL broadcasting an HD signal.

When I went from the shack to the living room, the Vip211 displays KTAL as stretched content :mad: . No HD for Today on KTAL, at least this morning so far.

UPDATE @ 7:15am: Today is now in HDTV via KTAL-DT

Yeah, for some reason on their HD channel whenever they are showing non HD programming it is stretched but not all the way stretched. Not sure what that is about. If you tune to 15.4, you can see the digital feed of their channel that isn't stretched.

SHergenrader
05-31-07, 10:14 AM
I guess they had so many complaints, they finally decided to be generous. Just in time for Summer repeats..... that figures :rolleyes:


Haha, so true. Oh well, I'm just glad they are finally broadcasting in HD. Hopefully the PQ will be improved before NBC starts showing the Stanley Cup finals.

SHergenrader
05-31-07, 10:16 AM
Long time lurker...First time poster.

Tonight I just flipped past KTAL...And I too noticed a HD picture. It's Conan O'Brien 1080i...BAD BAD BAD ghosting (he almost has 2 heads) and the audio cuts in and out about every 5 seconds. 92 on the signal strength. Maybe they are finally getting some work done.

Their 6.1 DT picture was bad. Anyone else notice how it had a greenish tint to it? And so does My 45 (dt 44. I too now only get 480i from them).


Yeah, the PQ is pretty bad. The ghosting is terrible and it does have a greenish tint to it. Hopefully they will correct that problem really soon.

I never watach KSHV so I can't tell you if my PQ has a greenish tint to it. They have only been broadcasting in 480i for a while now. I have never seen any HD programming on that channel. But like I said, I never watch that channel.

SHergenrader
05-31-07, 10:17 AM
The proof is in the pudding. KTVE is simply refusing to broadcast Today in HD during weekdays-- Period.


Why would they not broadcast Today in HD? Is that the only program on NBC they don't broadcast in HD?

simmonstwin
05-31-07, 07:27 PM
ktal has gotten alot better sound and picture now

SHergenrader
05-31-07, 11:15 PM
Yeah, the picture and sound was alot better tonight. Glad to see that.

Geaux Tigers
06-01-07, 12:14 AM
I live in South Highlands close to Byrd High School. I am able to get good OTA signal strengths on all channels except KTAL. I am using a DirecTv HR20-700 receiver, an Antennas Direct DB-8 antenna, and a Wingard preamp. Is KTAL broadcasting in low power. I was able to pick up there HD broadcast briefly but only briefly. KTBS is definately the most consistant OTA broadcaster based upon my experience. Has anyone else experienced similar problems or results. Thanks.

KeithAR2002
06-01-07, 02:17 AM
The proof is in the pudding. KTVE is simply refusing to broadcast Today in HD during weekdays-- Period.

I really would like to know what their problem is. Are they just too lazy to re-calibrate their equipment? The problem had something to do with their encoder being set to Eastern time... well, why can't they call up NBC and ask how to fix the problem, instead of ignoring it. It's pure madness! Don't get me wrong, I'm forever thankful that KTVE is putting out an HD signal, I just will never understand why that station never bothers to do things correctly.

KeithAR2002
06-01-07, 02:20 AM
UPDATE @ 7:15am: Today is now in HDTV via KTAL-DT

Hey.. at least KTAL is broadcasting Today in HD. As incompetent as the folks at KTAL are, I think we can safely make the statement that they aren't as incompetent as the folks at KTVE. Heck, it may have taken KTAL forever to get their mess straightened out, but at least they care enough to at least try and do things correctly... :eek:

KeithAR2002
06-01-07, 02:22 AM
Yeah, the picture and sound was alot better tonight. Glad to see that.


How did Leno and Conan look? Is there still some ghosting in the picture?

KeithAR2002
06-01-07, 02:37 AM
I live in South Highlands close to Byrd High School. I am able to get good OTA signal strengths on all channels except KTAL. I am using a DirecTv HR20-700 receiver, an Antennas Direct DB-8 antenna, and a Wingard preamp. Is KTAL broadcasting in low power. I was able to pick up there HD broadcast briefly but only briefly. KTBS is definately the most consistant OTA broadcaster based upon my experience. Has anyone else experienced similar problems or results. Thanks.


Geaux Tigers,


KTAL is at the same power level as KTBS, KPXJ, KMSS are.... a lot of people have been having problems with KTAL's signal in the Shreveport area... especially in the southern section of town. I wish I could say what the problem is... I noticed this problem when I was visiting a family member a couple months ago. They live close to Youree and Bert Kouns...with an indoor antenna, all the full power DTs came in with a signal in the 90%, but KTAL was barely registering. I think one of the only ways to remedy the KTAL problem down in the southern part of the city is using an outdoor antenna..or something stronger than a regular indoor antenna. This problem has been one of the big mysteries of the Shreveport board... no one can figure out why KTAL has problems reaching south Shreveport.. The only thing I can think of is the frequency they are broadcasting on (CH 15). Maybe the engineers at KTAL should run some signal tests out that way to see what the deal is.

And I 100% agree that KTBS puts out the best signal in the area.... even though they are broadcasting at the same level as KTAL and KMSS (1000kw), their signal is the strongest in the market.

Also, welcome to the board!

Ronald_Jeremy
06-01-07, 09:32 AM
How did Leno and Conan look? Is there still some ghosting in the picture?Leno looked good. Didn't notice any ghosting but I was watching on my small TV. I'll check the big one today!

gbranch
06-01-07, 09:58 AM
One reason why KTAL's signal is not as strong in Shreveport as the others is that KTAL's tower is in Vivian, which is about 15 miles farther from town that the Mooringsport antenna farm, where everyone else is. The southern reaches of Shreveport are about 50 miles from the KTAL tower.

KTAL uses Vivian because they are licensed to Texarkana, and per FCC rules the analog signal must provide a city grade signal to the COL (Community of License).

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 10:25 AM
How did Leno and Conan look? Is there still some ghosting in the picture?

I didn't catch Conan last night but I did catch the first ten minutes of Leno and the picture looked really good. The ghosting was gone and the sound quality was much better.

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 10:28 AM
I live in South Highlands close to Byrd High School. I am able to get good OTA signal strengths on all channels except KTAL. I am using a DirecTv HR20-700 receiver, an Antennas Direct DB-8 antenna, and a Wingard preamp. Is KTAL broadcasting in low power. I was able to pick up there HD broadcast briefly but only briefly. KTBS is definately the most consistant OTA broadcaster based upon my experience. Has anyone else experienced similar problems or results. Thanks.


I also have the HR20-700 and I have a Terrestrial Digital DB-4 antenna. The DB-8 antenna is much bigger than my DB-4 so you shouldn't have any trouble picking up KTAL. Where do you have your antenna placed? Also, have you tried hooking your antenna directly into your TV and see if you can get KTAL that a way? I've noticed on the HR-20 that the OTA tuner isn't all that great.

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 10:30 AM
Geaux Tigers,


KTAL is at the same power level as KTBS, KPXJ, KMSS are.... a lot of people have been having problems with KTAL's signal in the Shreveport area... especially in the southern section of town. I wish I could say what the problem is... I noticed this problem when I was visiting a family member a couple months ago. They live close to Youree and Bert Kouns...with an indoor antenna, all the full power DTs came in with a signal in the 90%, but KTAL was barely registering. I think one of the only ways to remedy the KTAL problem down in the southern part of the city is using an outdoor antenna..or something stronger than a regular indoor antenna. This problem has been one of the big mysteries of the Shreveport board... no one can figure out why KTAL has problems reaching south Shreveport.. The only thing I can think of is the frequency they are broadcasting on (CH 15). Maybe the engineers at KTAL should run some signal tests out that way to see what the deal is.

And I 100% agree that KTBS puts out the best signal in the area.... even though they are broadcasting at the same level as KTAL and KMSS (1000kw), their signal is the strongest in the market.

Also, welcome to the board!


Yeah, it is weird that KTBS comes in the best all the time even though KTBS, KSLA, and KMSS' towers are right by each other.

ken984
06-01-07, 10:39 AM
KTBS comes in great due to the station not being "cheap", they do things right, the rest seem to be held back by the corp. bean counters.

My HR20-700 has no problems with KTAL and i live in S. Bossier about 6 miles south of the Jimmie Davis Bridge, must be some buildings or something in the way for the S. Shreveport people.

Congrats to KTAL for finding the HD button and flipping it to ON, now step back from it and leave it alone. :-)

Veritas0Aequitas
06-01-07, 12:11 PM
I am 68 miles south of the KTAL tower and can receive 7/10 with indoor antenna and 10/10 when using yagi. I also do not live directly south of Shreveport. But this is all really pointless if you have comcast cable you already get it on channel 114-2 for free.

Geaux Tigers
06-01-07, 12:20 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. I have the antenna on a rotor and I will try adjusting it later on today to see if that helps. I have tried connecting the antenna directly but that does not help the situation. Sometimes I get KTAL great and sometimes the reception is spotty. Could trees or other structures be causing a problem. I agree the OTA tuner on the HR-20 could be better but in all other respects I believe it is a good receiver. The signal meter seems to fluctuate on many of the stations. I am looking forward to DirecTv broadcating the locals. Does anyone have any estimate of when that may be. Does anyone else have problems with KTAL right now? I appreciate everyones suggestions and help. Luckily, I have a waiver for the HD East Coast feeds of NBC and ABC. ABC, I hardly ever use but the NBC waiver is great to have. However, I would prefer to get the local stations. I wish the engineers with the other stations would consult with the engineers at KTBS because they are head and shoulders above everyone else in my opinion in their OTA broadcast.

bradleyj2
06-01-07, 12:43 PM
I live a little south of Byrd as well...And I get a good signal from KTAL. Usually around 90-92. The stations I have the most trouble with are My 45 (That's OK I don't watch them) and Fox 33. I get the signal breaking up pretty often on Fox for some reason. And I hate this since NASCAR looks so good in HD!

Does anyone else have problems with (or have you noticed) KTBS has audio stutters when going into and out of Network HD programming?

Last question (for now)...I was thinking about getting either Dish or Comcast. But Dish doesn't have locals in HD. My neighbor told me that Comcast just recently bought TWC and had some issues. Have those been worked out? How is the Comcast HD offerings? When I called them on the phone, the poor girl had no clue when I asked her what the lineup was, what was in the clear for a QAM tuner, etc.

Veritas0Aequitas
06-01-07, 01:15 PM
Does anyone else have problems with (or have you noticed) KTBS has audio stutters when going into and out of Network HD programming?
Yes I think it has something to do with lag between national feed and local.

I have Comcast analog previously TWC and yes they had issues for a month or so due to a number of things for one the time change glitch that plagued many products. Rerouting all there IP's through there networks and not Roadrunners (my ip reports as somewhere in TN now. It is pointless to call them they either will not answer or have no clue and give you a run around. Your better off getting a tech through troubleshooting and ask them. Far as dish vs comcast thats just a choice I do not see the point in dish unless your interested in all the other options it gives you. Comcast does broadcast NBC-HD on channel 114-2 free of charge if you have basic analog service. I can not confirm they are doing this for ABC on 4-1 Fox 33-1 and CBS on 12-1 but can unhook my antenna tonight and check when HD is broadcasting.


I was looking for that station ID that broadcast's near downtown along the interstate. I want to say I believe it was a church broadcast very low power but decent size tower. I wonder if that is in direct line of sight with some of these people having problems recieving.

Anyone using Google Earth or Google Maps can figure out there exact distance by using 32° 54' 12.00" N 94° 00' 23.00" W for KTAL-DT to there home. Also will show you what is directly in your path.

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 01:19 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. I have the antenna on a rotor and I will try adjusting it later on today to see if that helps. I have tried connecting the antenna directly but that does not help the situation. Sometimes I get KTAL great and sometimes the reception is spotty. Could trees or other structures be causing a problem. I agree the OTA tuner on the HR-20 could be better but in all other respects I believe it is a good receiver. The signal meter seems to fluctuate on many of the stations. I am looking forward to DirecTv broadcating the locals. Does anyone have any estimate of when that may be. Does anyone else have problems with KTAL right now? I appreciate everyones suggestions and help. Luckily, I have a waiver for the HD East Coast feeds of NBC and ABC. ABC, I hardly ever use but the NBC waiver is great to have. However, I would prefer to get the local stations. I wish the engineers with the other stations would consult with the engineers at KTBS because they are head and shoulders above everyone else in my opinion in their OTA broadcast.


It's going to be a while before D* offers our locals in HD. They are set to launch a new satellite in Mid June and another one either later this year or early next year. Those satellites will be for more national HD channels and more HD locals. If I had to guess, I would say D* will offer local HD channels later next year but I'm not worried about that because I will continue to use to OTA antenna even after they offer our locals in HD.

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 01:24 PM
I live a little south of Byrd as well...And I get a good signal from KTAL. Usually around 90-92. The stations I have the most trouble with are My 45 (That's OK I don't watch them) and Fox 33. I get the signal breaking up pretty often on Fox for some reason. And I hate this since NASCAR looks so good in HD!

Does anyone else have problems with (or have you noticed) KTBS has audio stutters when going into and out of Network HD programming?

Last question (for now)...I was thinking about getting either Dish or Comcast. But Dish doesn't have locals in HD. My neighbor told me that Comcast just recently bought TWC and had some issues. Have those been worked out? How is the Comcast HD offerings? When I called them on the phone, the poor girl had no clue when I asked her what the lineup was, what was in the clear for a QAM tuner, etc.

The audio stuttering that occurs on KTBS only occurs whenever KTBS is showing a local commercial and then goes back to the national feed in HD. Not exactly sure why that happens but it's nothing I can complain about.

As for either E* or Comcast, I wouldn't go with either. I would go with D* simply because they are launching a new satellite in mid June and around September they are suppose to add around 50 HD channels or so and around 100 by years end. If D* is out of the questions I would definetly go with E*. Everybody I know that has E* is completely satisfied and as of now they have more HD channels than anybody does and if I remember correctly they are launching a new satellite either at the end of the year or early next year to add more HD channels.

Geaux Tigers
06-01-07, 03:41 PM
Bradleyj2,

What type of antenna and tuner do you use. Could you also describe your setup for me. Thanks. Fox is usually solid for me and on 45-1, I am getting a signal from them on my tuner but no picture.

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 04:13 PM
Bradleyj2,

What type of antenna and tuner do you use. Could you also describe your setup for me. Thanks. Fox is usually solid for me and on 45-1, I am getting a signal from them on my tuner but no picture.

For some reason with the HR20, I can get a signal of 100% on both tuners for KSHV but whenever you tune to 45.1 it says searching for signal on off air antenna. Everybody else that I have spoken to that has the HR20 in our area has the same problem. Don't know why that is though but I never watch that station anyways nor is anything in HD on that channel.

bradleyj2
06-01-07, 08:03 PM
I have a little amplified Radio Shack antenna in my attic (model DA-5200) hooked to a Sony XBD 960. I ran all new RG6 cable when I renovated. Like I said, KTAL KTBS, KSLA, KPXJ, and PBS all come in rock solid. But My 45 and Fox break up.

I tried to ad an extra 10db amp on it...But that made things worse!

With this in the attic, I get a signal in the 90's on 3, 6, 12, and 21...Signal of 86 on PBS, and Fox and My 45 both move between 68 and low 80's with lots of errors.

I've been thinking about moving the antenna outside. It's small enough to hide...Or like I said in a post above maybe getting Dish or Comcast.

I don't like DirectTv because when I had them a couple of years ago in Alabama, I had nothing but trouble. Clear view of the sky but lots of fade.

Dish seems like a good choice, but no locals in HD (doesn't solve my Fox 33 issue) and $20 a month extra seems steep for HD.

That's why I asked about the Comcast situation here. Their phone operators are Comcrapstic lol

bradleyj2
06-01-07, 08:06 PM
SHergenrader:

FYI...On KSHV, I have to tune to 44.4 to get a signal on my Sony. I used to get HD on 44.3, but that has gone away.

digiblur
06-01-07, 08:14 PM
Dish seems like a good choice, but no locals in HD (doesn't solve my Fox 33 issue) and $20 a month extra seems steep for HD.

That's why I asked about the Comcast situation here. Their phone operators are Comcrapstic lol

Plenty of HD locals... just takes a creative phone call to their india CSR's.

Geaux Tigers
06-01-07, 08:45 PM
Bradleyj2 - Thanks for the information. However, I have DirecTv and have been very happy and seldom have rain fade especially with the new larger 5 LNB dish. I believe that DirecTv will the be the HD Leader in September when they have over a hundred HD channels.

However, with that being said I am not completely happy with the tuner on the HR20-700. I get all the channels except KTAL. I have a 32 Sharp LCD with an ATSC OTA tuner and KTAL as well as the other channels come in great on it. Therefore, this is a problem with the HR20-700 tuner. Does anyone else with an HR20-700 or HR20-100 experience this problem or receive KTAL. Additionally, I get a strong signal on 45-1 but can not receive a picture. Does anyone know how to manually add 44-4 since KSHV is using this sub channel according to a the prior post. I need to add the channel to my HR20 which gets a strong signal but I can not tune to this sub channel. Once again, thanks for everyones help.

digiblur
06-01-07, 09:14 PM
Bradleyj2 - Thanks for the information. However, I have DirecTv and have been very happy and seldom have rain fade especially with the new larger 5 LNB dish. I believe that DirecTv will the be the HD Leader in September when they have over a hundred HD channels.



LOL... Not channels but capacity.

Ronald_Jeremy
06-01-07, 09:41 PM
Law and Order looks good on KTAL. Audio good too!!

Bout time!!!

I believe that DirecTv will the be the HD Leader in September when they have over a hundred HD channels.OMG!! OMG!!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif Stop IT!!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif

You ever watch Southpark? Find the one where Cartman sees the midget and immediately drops and laughs uncontrollably. That is what you are doing to me now!!!!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-008.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-004.gif Ahahahahahahahah!!! STOP IT!!!! http://www.smileyhut.com/laughing/roflmao.gif http://www.ethanwiner.com/Smileys/Laugh.gif

Ronald_Jeremy
06-01-07, 10:36 PM
Its the Wheel of Fortune episode. When the midget comes out and Cartman starts laughing, picture me doing that a few posts abovEEEEEE !!


hehehehehehehehe

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 11:30 PM
LOL... Not channels but capacity.


They are suppose to have around 100 channels by years end or early next year.

SHergenrader
06-01-07, 11:33 PM
Bradleyj2 - Thanks for the information. However, I have DirecTv and have been very happy and seldom have rain fade especially with the new larger 5 LNB dish. I believe that DirecTv will the be the HD Leader in September when they have over a hundred HD channels.

However, with that being said I am not completely happy with the tuner on the HR20-700. I get all the channels except KTAL. I have a 32 Sharp LCD with an ATSC OTA tuner and KTAL as well as the other channels come in great on it. Therefore, this is a problem with the HR20-700 tuner. Does anyone else with an HR20-700 or HR20-100 experience this problem or receive KTAL. Additionally, I get a strong signal on 45-1 but can not receive a picture. Does anyone know how to manually add 44-4 since KSHV is using this sub channel according to a the prior post. I need to add the channel to my HR20 which gets a strong signal but I can not tune to this sub channel. Once again, thanks for everyones help.


I have the HR20 and I have no problem getting KTAL. I do have the same problem with you regarding KSHV. No you can't manually add any local channels to the HR20. Alot of people have complained about that so hopefully D* will add that in an upcoming CE release to have the receiver scan for locals.

I also very seldom have any outage becuase of the weather. As you were saying, with the new 5 lnb dish it usually has a great signal no matter what the weather is. Come September D* will dominate.

Ronald_Jeremy
06-01-07, 11:51 PM
They are suppose to have around 100 channels by years end or early next year.They are supposed to have the capacity. It is still up in the air if that number of national HD channels will even be available much less dick carrying them all.

Geaux Tigers
06-02-07, 02:39 AM
All I know is that I use Comcast for my internet and there service has been less than stellar. I must not be alone because of all the negative press that they have received. Come September those with DirecTv will have more HD than any other service provider. That is something I would be willing to bet on. The more competition from other service providers the better as it will result in more competitive pricing and more programing. I would love to have FIOS as an option for this area but it is not here. No service provider is perfect but I am happy to be with DirecTv.

I am now able to get a signal on all stations using my HR20 after readjusting the antenna using my rotor. The tuner on the HR20 needs improvement and that is something DirecTv needs to work on.

SHergenrader
06-02-07, 10:07 AM
They are supposed to have the capacity. It is still up in the air if that number of national HD channels will even be available much less dick carrying them all.

As of now, at least 55 channels confirmed are going to be added to D* HD package before the end of the year.

ken984
06-02-07, 07:06 PM
The only way E* competes is if you do not need more than 1 DVR, if you do the fees start to pile up big time. They also will hound you about the phone line, if they think its not connected they will turn your stuff off. Want more storage for the 622? Not available yet, and they are planning to charge a "small enabling fee" for it, I don't think anyone knows if this means a one time fee or a monthly fee but Charlie is definitely gonna profit from it, they will nickel and dime you to death.

Their 622 is nice but they will try to get you to accept it as a 2 room solution, that will work fine as long as nobody wants to record 2 shows at once while somebody else is in room 2 trying to watch tv. Also only 1 OTA tuner is a HUGE problem, almost everything my wife watches is on OTA, and a lot of them are on simultaneously. So what do you do then, can't record more than one and cant even watch one and record the other, well you can as long as SD is acceptable.

DirecTV will have a lot of HD sometime in the near future, however there are a LOT of problems that could delay it, launching a sat IS rocket science after all. The launch date has already slipped 2 weeks from June 20 to July 6. They need it to be up and operational by the last week in August so they could put NFL ST HD on that bird in MPEG4, that would be what I would be shooting for if I were D*.

Directv has also stated that they will NOT raise the price of the HD package when the new channels go up, $10 flat for as many as they can get.

Also VOD is on the way to D* supposedly in July, hopefully it will be like most cable VOD where there is a lot of free content, but don't hold your breath on any of this future stuff, things can go wrong and frequently do.

Geaux Tigers
06-02-07, 08:01 PM
I am now getting a signal as well a picture on 45-1. However, their signal goes in and out and appears weak.

SHergenrader
06-02-07, 09:09 PM
The only way E* competes is if you do not need more than 1 DVR, if you do the fees start to pile up big time. They also will hound you about the phone line, if they think its not connected they will turn your stuff off. Want more storage for the 622? Not available yet, and they are planning to charge a "small enabling fee" for it, I don't think anyone knows if this means a one time fee or a monthly fee but Charlie is definitely gonna profit from it, they will nickel and dime you to death.

Their 622 is nice but they will try to get you to accept it as a 2 room solution, that will work fine as long as nobody wants to record 2 shows at once while somebody else is in room 2 trying to watch tv. Also only 1 OTA tuner is a HUGE problem, almost everything my wife watches is on OTA, and a lot of them are on simultaneously. So what do you do then, can't record more than one and cant even watch one and record the other, well you can as long as SD is acceptable.

DirecTV will have a lot of HD sometime in the near future, however there are a LOT of problems that could delay it, launching a sat IS rocket science after all. The launch date has already slipped 2 weeks from June 20 to July 6. They need it to be up and operational by the last week in August so they could put NFL ST HD on that bird in MPEG4, that would be what I would be shooting for if I were D*.

Directv has also stated that they will NOT raise the price of the HD package when the new channels go up, $10 flat for as many as they can get.

Also VOD is on the way to D* supposedly in July, hopefully it will be like most cable VOD where there is a lot of free content, but don't hold your breath on any of this future stuff, things can go wrong and frequently do.


Thanks for the heads up on D* pushing back the satellite launch a couple of weeks. I didn't realize that.

As far as VOD, I hope alot will be free but I am assuming it is going to be similar to cable's VOD. D* VOD is going to use the ethernet hookup on the back of the HR20 to access most of the VOD programs. Some will be sent through the satellites if it is extremely popular.

For now D* says they aren't going to raise the price of the HD package but I would imagine sometime next year it would go up to around $20 which is what E* is charging I believe.

Before I upgraded to D* HD I was looking in to E* HD programming and thought about subscribing to them since they have more HD channels. I didn't realize their DVR only had one OTA tuner. That really stinks. The main reason I didn't go with E* is because they didn't want me to have a seperate receiver for the bedroom like D* does. I didn't want to have one receiver for two rooms. That was the main reason I didn't go with them but from what I understand most people have no complaints about E* so I think anybody who goes with either D* or E* is going to love it no matter what.

Geaux Tigers
06-02-07, 11:22 PM
I am now getting a signal as well a picture on 45-1. However, their signal goes in and out and appears weak. I am not sure if they are broadcasting in HD as all of the programing has been non HD so far that I have seen.

ken984
06-03-07, 10:51 PM
Watching KTAL HD...really!! Pic looks great, audio is not right. No center channel audio, got voices coming from the front and the surround speakers...Does anyone want to chance a call to KTAL and explain 5.1 to them?? Or should we just be thankful that the picture is good, for the first time in the history of KTAL?

i49mobile
06-03-07, 10:57 PM
Watching KTAL HD...really!! Pic looks great, audio is not right. No center channel audio, got voices coming from the front and the surround speakers...Does anyone want to chance a call to KTAL and explain 5.1 to them?? Or should we just be thankful that the picture is good, for the first time in the history of KTAL?


Ken -- I had would happy if I did not have audio to video sync issues with KSLA. Over Memorial Weekend I went to Best Buy and looked a four different HDTVs (Sony LCD, LG Plasma, Samsung Plasma, etc) and all had sync issues with KSLA. Do you have sync with KSLA-- It is really bad with Letterman

SHergenrader
06-03-07, 11:38 PM
Watching KTAL HD...really!! Pic looks great, audio is not right. No center channel audio, got voices coming from the front and the surround speakers...Does anyone want to chance a call to KTAL and explain 5.1 to them?? Or should we just be thankful that the picture is good, for the first time in the history of KTAL?

I'm going to wait a little while before I attempt to call and/or email them about the audio. Maybe they will correct it on their own. I'm just ecstatic KTAL is actually in HD.

SHergenrader
06-03-07, 11:39 PM
Ken -- I had would happy if I did not have audio to video sync issues with KSLA. Over Memorial Weekend I went to Best Buy and looked a four different HDTVs (Sony LCD, LG Plasma, Samsung Plasma, etc) and all had sync issues with KSLA. Do you have sync with KSLA-- It is really bad with Letterman


I have the audio and video not in sync issues with KSLA but it's nothing that will drive me crazy. It's barely off if any when I watch KSLA.

ken984
06-04-07, 11:19 AM
I don't watch too much KSLA, but I did have issues with the sync in the past. I will try to check that out tonight and see if its still off for me. I remember last year during football it was very bad, maybe 2 or 3 seconds off at times.

Veritas0Aequitas
06-04-07, 01:22 PM
I can not confirm they are doing this for ABC on 4-1 Fox 33-1 and CBS on 12-1 but can unhook my antenna tonight and check when HD is broadcasting.

CONFIRMED

Comcast is broadcasting NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX digital/HD feeds on the subchannels with analog service. I was not able to see a physical difference in the quality.

SHergenrader
06-04-07, 01:34 PM
CONFIRMED

Comcast is broadcasting NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX digital/HD feeds on the subchannels with analog service. I was not able to see a physical difference in the quality.


From what I understand they have been doing this for quite a while. I know they were broadcasted when it was Time Warner.

Veritas0Aequitas
06-04-07, 01:57 PM
My new/old tv that had the problem with KSLA must not been able to pick them up. Guess fox has no intention of broadcasting in HD the race today since no one is watching :(

KeithAR2002
06-04-07, 05:07 PM
I'm so proud of KTAL! It may take them forever to get things done, but at least they try. I was very mad Friday evening when I turned on KTVE-HD, to find Law and Order flickering in and out of HD. Then I tried calling the station, but no one answered. The problem was fixed by Leno time, but it's principle. If they're going to broadcast a signal, they need to take the time to do it right. I hope KTAL doesn't start messing up.

shreveportdog
06-04-07, 07:21 PM
Need help with DirecTV HR-20

Hello,

I have had my HR-20 for a few months now and need some information from other HR-20 users in Shreveport. I have checked my signal strength and was wondering if I have a problem with my new dish that DirecTV installed when I upgraded to the HR-20. all my readings for the 101, 110 & 119 satellites are fine with 95 to 100 signal strength on most transponders about this same as with the old dish. but on the 99 (b) satellite I get no signal strength at all 0's on all transponders & on the 103 (a) satellite I get the following;
77- 0- 47- 0- 69- 0- 0

So why no signal on 99 (b) and so low on 103 (a)? if you can check your signal strength and post them it would be helpful for me. on the plus side my rain fade has gone away with the new bigger dish, had some strong storms with lots of rain and have not had any rain fade yet. :)

Thanks for your help.

haley-SEA
06-04-07, 08:54 PM
KTVE is not showing the HD feed of the Anaheim Ducks/Ottawa Senators Stanley Cup playoff game. KARK in Little Rock is though.

What is KTAL doing since i'm out of "normal" range.

Veritas0Aequitas
06-04-07, 09:44 PM
KTAL = HD & audio crystal clear for me tonight.

Geaux Tigers
06-04-07, 09:52 PM
Shreveportdog,

I am using an H20-700 and on 99(b)b I have readings of 0 11 0 48 0 11 on transponders 1-6. Sometimes I get a 0 for transponder 2 but the others are consistant.

On 103(a) I have readings of 88 0 65 6 83 0 on transponders 1-6. On transponder 17, I have a reading of 0. All other transponders on both sats register as N/A.

I have readings in the 90's with a few 100's on the others sats except for a few transponders.

The weak transponders on the other sats are:

Sat 119 Transponder 23 = 42, 29 = 63

Sat 101 Transponder 12 = 77, 18 = 0, 26 = 0, 28 = 71

On Sat 110 I only receive three transponders and they are 8 = 85, 10 = 92, 12 = 89.

Are your reading similar on your other sats.

Are you using a diplexer? Are you using a multiswitch and if so then what brand and model? Is your HR20 a 700 or 100 model?

Are you able to pull in all of the local stations OTA signals using the HR20's tuner? I have not been impressed with the HR20's OTA tuner but in other regards I have been happy.

I hope this helps and please let me know so we can compare notes. Good luck.

ken984
06-04-07, 10:41 PM
KSLA definitely has lip sync problems, off at least a second.

HR 20 signal strength @101 everything is good but transponders 18 and 26 are spots for other areas and should be 0. At 110 i have 95, 96 and 95 on the 3 transponders that D* has there.

On the119- 97 on 22, 56 on 23, 98 on 24, 99 on 25-28, 82 on 29 and 100 on 30-32. On the 99 i get 0 across the board...103 82 on 1, 51 on 3 73 on 5, nothing else above 6.

Not sure about the 99, think its supposed to be all 0's but my dish is not exactly right, idiot installed it and didn't cement the pole in so I get to fix that one day.

So far i am very impressed with the pic quality on KTAL HD, its very good, audio seems good on the game also. Update, audio is clear but still no center, just stereo from front and surrounds.

KeithAR2002
06-05-07, 12:20 AM
So far i am very impressed with the pic quality on KTAL HD, its very good, audio seems good on the game also. Update, audio is clear but still no center, just stereo from front and surrounds.

Isn't it great? Shreveport now has all major networks in HD, at full power :) We need to break out the champagne! It may have taken them forever and a day to get everything up to speed, but all that matters now is they are up and running correctly. I wonder if the rumor is true that Nexstar is looking to sell KTAL? As I said last week, that may be the reason why they've dragged their feet in getting the HD up and running.

shreveportdog
06-05-07, 04:15 AM
Thanks for the replies Geaux Tigers & Ken984.

I have the model HR-20 100b, I think it's made by RCA but I'm not sure about that. it works great and I have been very happy with it. I get all the channels I should and the OTA works great except for channel 45-1 (KSHV) which I never watch anyway. I live in south Shreveport and I'll list my signal strength here so you can see them all if you like. on satellite 101;

(1-8) 98, 96, 97, 98, 96, 100, 96, 100

(9-16) 96, 98, 97, 86, 97, 100, 96, 100

(17-24) 96, 0, 96, 88, 98, 100, 97, 100

(25-32) 96, 0, 96, 74, 97, 100, 95, 100


on 110;

(8-10-12) 93, 91, 94

on 119;

(22-32) 100, 50, 96, 100, 99, 100, 100, 77, 99, 100, 100

on 99(b);

(1-6) 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,

on 103(a);

(1-6 & 17) 86, 0, 59, 22, 77, 0, 0

So I guess I'm OK for now. I just hope the new satellite shows up when they get ready to turn on the new HD channels in a few months. again thanks for the replies.

Ronald_Jeremy
06-05-07, 09:11 AM
I decided to re-scan last night just to see if I can now pick up 45. Well on my bedroom TV it scanned in on 44.1.

But low and behold another channel showed up!!!

Channels 7-1, 7-2, and 7-3. It is the ABC affilliate for Tyler. They are broadcasting in HD and PQ and audio seem good. 7-1 is the main, 2 is weather, and 3 is another The Tube!! LOL

Re-scanned in the living room on the VIP-622 and it pulled channel 7 in as well. But no go on 44.1/45.

ken984
06-05-07, 10:01 AM
Cool Ron, ill try a rescan tonight to try and get 7. I dont ever try for 45, they have absolutely nothing that interests me, 21 is a little better, reruns of South Park look great on there(not HD but very crisp), and the wife likes Supernatural, decent sci-fi horror show, in HD too.

SHergenrader
06-05-07, 10:53 AM
I decided to re-scan last night just to see if I can now pick up 45. Well on my bedroom TV it scanned in on 44.1.

But low and behold another channel showed up!!!

Channels 7-1, 7-2, and 7-3. It is the ABC affilliate for Tyler. They are broadcasting in HD and PQ and audio seem good. 7-1 is the main, 2 is weather, and 3 is another The Tube!! LOL

Re-scanned in the living room on the VIP-622 and it pulled channel 7 in as well. But no go on 44.1/45.

I'm going to have to do a rescan tonight and see if I can pick that station up. Thanks for the info.

Ronald_Jeremy
06-05-07, 02:48 PM
I think it is only going to be a night thing or I will have to rotate my antenna to get it during the day. The signal strength was about 69 this morning and it was 0 at lunch.

I also noticed another channel that I missed before. It was 13-1. My VIP pulled in guide data on both of them overnight.

I have a CM 4228 aimed at Moorigsport( of course). May play with the rotation later today if no recordings are scheduled.

SHergenrader
06-05-07, 04:23 PM
I think it is only going to be a night thing or I will have to rotate my antenna to get it during the day. The signal strength was about 69 this morning and it was 0 at lunch.

I also noticed another channel that I missed before. It was 13-1. My VIP pulled in guide data on both of them overnight.

I have a CM 4228 aimed at Moorigsport( of course). May play with the rotation later today if no recordings are scheduled.


I think I'm about to get a CM 4228. I have a TD DB4 right now and I don't think it's all that great.

haley-SEA
06-06-07, 08:40 AM
I think I'm about to get a CM 4228. I have a TD DB4 right now and I don't think it's all that great.

Good Choice. FWIW, the 4228 will work for VHF high but its basicly bidirectional and has little gain on those channels. In a UHF only digital market like Shreveport, its an excellent choice although you might need to tweak the orientation since it has a narrow beamwidth.

I use a 4228, a preamp (CM 7777) and a small VHF only log-periodic (mainly for KETS-DT which is on RF ch5) for my fringe/DX setup. It begs for tower mounting but I don't have one at this time.

burgranger
06-06-07, 05:16 PM
I am also missing the center channel from KTAL. I rescanned for more channels last night and noticed that KTAL is broadcasting 6.2, which is a simulcast in SD of the main channel, similar to what KPXJ is doing. KSLA has always had a lip sync problem. If you look back at previous posts in this thread from a few years ago.

I live off Sligo Road in South Bossier and pick up
KMSS at 99%
KSHV at 0% (Dish Network must not like the way they put up their signal)
KTBS at 91-93%
KTAL at 91-94%
KSLA at 87-95%
KLPB at 83-85%
KPXJ at 92-94%

I have a 622 and use a Zenith Silver sensor that is just laying on the floor behind the TV. I am surprised because there are a ton of Pecan trees right around the house and a 2 story house next door. I am glad that KTAL has finally decided to do the right thing and start broadcasting. I wish that all of the stations would act like KTBS and KPXJ and be on the ball about flipping the switch.

Geaux Tigers
06-06-07, 09:40 PM
[QUOTE=shreveportdog]Thanks for the replies Geaux Tigers & Ken984.

I have the model HR-20 100b, I think it's made by RCA but I'm not sure about that. it works great and I have been very happy with it. I get all the channels I should and the OTA works great except for channel 45-1 (KSHV) which I never watch anyway. I live in south Shreveport and I'll list my signal strength here so you can see them all if you like. on satellite 101;

(1-8) 98, 96, 97, 98, 96, 100, 96, 100

(9-16) 96, 98, 97, 86, 97, 100, 96, 100

(17-24) 96, 0, 96, 88, 98, 100, 97, 100

(25-32) 96, 0, 96, 74, 97, 100, 95, 100

Shreveportdog,

If you have a black HR-20 that is a hot item. A quick search on DBS.TALK would reveal that some would give almost anything for the black as only a few were made and then they stopped production. Where did you get it from?

SHergenrader
06-06-07, 09:59 PM
[QUOTE=shreveportdog]Thanks for the replies Geaux Tigers & Ken984.

I have the model HR-20 100b, I think it's made by RCA but I'm not sure about that. it works great and I have been very happy with it. I get all the channels I should and the OTA works great except for channel 45-1 (KSHV) which I never watch anyway. I live in south Shreveport and I'll list my signal strength here so you can see them all if you like. on satellite 101;

(1-8) 98, 96, 97, 98, 96, 100, 96, 100

(9-16) 96, 98, 97, 86, 97, 100, 96, 100

(17-24) 96, 0, 96, 88, 98, 100, 97, 100

(25-32) 96, 0, 96, 74, 97, 100, 95, 100

Shreveportdog,

If you have a black HR-20 that is a hot item. A quick search on DBS.TALK would reveal that some would give almost anything for the black as only a few were made and then they stopped production. Where did you get it from?


The HR 20 100 is made by RCA. I believe they are still producing them. Where did you hear they stopped producing them? I actually prefer the silver receiver. I don't think the black one looks all that great.

shreveportdog
06-07-07, 07:43 AM
Shreveportdog,

If you have a black HR-20 that is a hot item. A quick search on DBS.TALK would reveal that some would give almost anything for the black as only a few were made and then they stopped production. Where did you get it from?

Yes it is the black HR20-100b, I think they are still making the HR20-100s (Silver) as a friend got one just a week or so ago, don't know if they still make the 100b. I got mine through DirecTV by calling them and asking for a deal as paying $199,00 upfront to lease a receiver was just too much money i thought (got the HR20, 5 LNB dish & install for $99.00)

Geaux Tigers
06-07-07, 01:58 PM
It is my understanding that RCA continues to make the silver units but has stopped production of the black ones. Many people wanted the black ones to match the black components of their other A/V equipment. DirecTv will not let you swap receivers with someone else that is on a lease program. My father received an HR20-100S and I have 4 HR20-700S. I wanted to swap one receiver with my father because the HR20-100S has two 5.1 digital outs (1 optical, 1 coaxial). I am using one unit for two separate tv's and two separate 5.1 systems. My father agreed because both units were new. However, DirecTv would not let us do this. I am going to try to split the optical signal using a splitter from monoprice. Hopefully, this will work. One bad thing about big corporations is that they are not very flexible. I even talked to several DirecTv agents. However, I still would choose DirecTv over any other current service provider in our area.

SHergenrader
06-07-07, 02:18 PM
It is my understanding that RCA continues to make the silver units but has stopped production of the black ones. Many people wanted the black ones to match the black components of their other A/V equipment. DirecTv will not let you swap receivers with someone else that is on a lease program. My father received an HR20-100S and I have 4 HR20-700S. I wanted to swap one receiver with my father because the HR20-100S has two 5.1 digital outs (1 optical, 1 coaxial). I am using one unit for two separate tv's and two separate 5.1 systems. My father agreed because both units were new. However, DirecTv would not let us do this. I am going to try to split the optical signal using a splitter from monoprice. Hopefully, this will work. One bad thing about big corporations is that they are not very flexible. I even talked to several DirecTv agents. However, I still would choose DirecTv over any other current service provider in our area.


Oh, I misread your earlier post wrong. I thought you were saying the HR-20 100 as a whole were discontinued. Yeah, D* is pretty strict about their receivers but that's with any company. I can't see E* or the cable company allowing you to swap receivers with somebody else.

gbranch
06-08-07, 01:01 PM
For those Shreveport viewers in the western areas of the DMA.

CBS KYTX-DT 19.1 and 19.2 (RF 18) Tyler is currently at low power due to a transmitter upgrade. They are upgrading their power from 125kW to 640kW, AND adding 5.1 audio. The work is scheduled to be complete this weekend.

ken984
06-08-07, 03:38 PM
Ty for the heads up gbranch, maybe at that power we can receive the signal here and bypass the horrible audio sync problems on KSLA.

windham9
06-10-07, 08:06 PM
For those Shreveport viewers in the western areas of the DMA.

CBS KYTX-DT 19.1 and 19.2 (RF 18) Tyler is currently at low power due to a transmitter upgrade. They are upgrading their power from 125kW to 640kW, AND adding 5.1 audio. The work is scheduled to be complete this weekend.

19.1 is back on at the usual 75-82% here. Tropo/skip on the LP, or back on at 125kW? 640kW should give me low-mid 90s. Anyone getting it for the first time?

Ronald_Jeremy
06-11-07, 02:15 PM
What antenna are you guys in Broadmoor using?

I am planning on getting my dad set up this weekend. He has had an LCD for 2 months with zero HD. He won't put up a frigging antenna like I tell him. He asks me "Why?"

I tell him "For the most frigging amazing picture you will ever see!" :D He thinks I am full of crap.

MaryS910
06-14-07, 10:32 PM
What antenna are you guys in Broadmoor using?

I am planning on getting my dad set up this weekend. He has had an LCD for 2 months with zero HD. He won't put up a frigging antenna like I tell him. He asks me "Why?"

I tell him "For the most frigging amazing picture you will ever see!" :D He thinks I am full of crap.

I have the DISH VIP622 and am using a Radio Shack indoor omni directional antenna. Everything comes in pretty good except for KTAL drops the signal at times. It's VERY annoying. The installer told me that hardly anyone in this area gets a good HD OTA signal due to all of the buildings and houses. :mad: