Innova,

You are only guaranteed exchange priviledges if you bought the additional exchange warranty. Otherwise exchange is an option based on repairs needed, turnaround time, stock availability, or recent purchase.

Maybe your dealer has a demo SP7205 to keep you happy during repair turnaround? Convince him it is a subtle sales technique to convince you to upgrade? ;-)

Hehe, I'll give that a shot. Especially if I don't get mine back by Sept 11 (is it possible? I'm shipping mine out tomorrow....), the Richmond Nascar race is in HD, and I was planning a party...

Originally posted by keyser
With a DVI upconverting player, it would be best to sent out native 576p to the projector, but what about NTSC 480i DVD´s... send out 480p(I assume they don´t scale 480i to 576p?)?

I would be inclined to send it out 480i, preferably over DVI. You paid a lot of money to have that wonderful Faroudja DCDi in your projector. Why rely on a $200 player's scaling/deinterlacing? The PJ has to scale whatever comes down the pipe to 576P so if you use a so-called 'upsampling' DVD player you end up scaling 480i up to 1080i in the player, send it to your PJ which then has to scrunch it back down to 576P. More processing = more chances for errors = worse picture. Don't be fooled by the upsampling zealots out there. Hook one up and see for yourself.

outlier2,
"I would be inclined to send it out 480i, preferably over DVI"
DVI doesn´t support 480i/576i, only progressive, hence my question.

"Why rely on a $200 player's scaling/deinterlacing?"
I´m planing on bying the Denon 3810(but I don´t think I will if it doesn´t send out interlaced with HDMI).

"More processing = more chances for errors = worse picture."
I agree, that´s why I´m wondering if it´s possible to get the player to scale 480i to 576p. If that´s not possible(and why isn´t it!?, a cheap Bravo has custom resolutions.. I would have thought Denon would support resolutions for a display as popular as the Matterhorn), then wouldn´t DVI 480p be best?

Originally posted by keyser
outlier2,
"I would be inclined to send it out 480i, preferably over DVI"
DVI doesn´t support 480i/576i, only progressive, hence my question.


Are you saying the 5700 doesn't support 480i over DVI or your player doesn't?

Am I wrong in thinking that DVI doesn´t support interlaced at all(except 1080i)?

The feed from my DVD player to my 5700 is component only, but I have to say the progressive output from the DVD comes out better.

My big test for conversion is rolling credits at the end of a movie. Using the 480i output they jitter badly. Switching my DVD player to progressive output cleans that up.

(I can't help it, I'm a credits reader.)

Mojo

DVI is a cable, so it is capable of supporting 480i if that is what is being sent down it. Whether your player outputs 480i over DVI or whether your PJ accepts 480i through the DVI input is another thing.

Originally posted by Mojo_LA
I still think the color balance of the image is shifted to the green. Since this is a new projector, it's hard to say if I'm seeing things or if it's a problem. Others have said they have also noticed a green tint so the jury is still out. Still, I've been working in film and video for many years and I'd be hard pressed to believe that an image this green is correct!

The color wheel noise is very low now. It's like a dim humming coming from the projector that can only be heard in a quiet room or during the most quiet moments of movie.


Personally, I think that if you're seeing a "too green" image on you replacement projector also, that the problem is unlikely to be in the projector itself. I would suspect either your source or that your eyes have just become accustomed to an excessively blue image.

Have you tried driving the 5700 via a DVI connector. Doing so results ina pure RGB signal getting to the 5700 via a digital connection and bypasses errors in the component output of the source.

Kurt

Originally posted by Morris Jones
With the default settings, (Contrast and Brightness at 50) my 5700 was clearly crunching both the blacks and the whites. My current calibrated settings are about 16 for contrast and 70-something for brightness. That should bring back the white detail.

Mojo

Hmmm, That is an awfully long way off the default values. So much so that I wonder if your unit is functioning correctly.

On my first 5700, there was something wronh with one of the component inputs (the lower one). When i set brightness using a calibration set-up disk I had to set it (brightness) to a value of about 70. However, the image looked washed out. When I swapped ove rto the othe rcomponent input my brightness calibrated right at the default setting of 50, and the image had much more "snap".

Why don't you try using the other component input and seeing if that gives you better results?

I ended up replacing my 5700 with a new one due to an unrelated problem of excessive noise with teh cooling fan, It sounded like the fan was contacting a stray wire.

Kurt

"DVI is a cable, so it is capable of supporting 480i if that is what is being sent down it. Whether your player outputs 480i over DVI or whether your PJ accepts 480i through the DVI input is another thing"

I might be wrong, but AFAIK no DVI chipset outputs interlaced, do even HTPC´s support interlaced with their DVI outputs? And does anything accept interlaced with a DVI input?

My 5700 had a green cast to the image, but I lowered green gain/offset by a few clicks and it looked fine.

I might have to agree with keyser. If my memory serves me right, SDTV on my Sony SAT HD300 reciever outputs 480p through DVI as opposed to 480i. I can't speak for other sources, but on my Sat reciever it seems to be the case.

Jeff

Only HDMI chipsets will support 480i interlaced - not DVI chipsets.

I was wondering if anyone is using a WhisperFlow hush box, or anything like that? My projector is mounted about 6 feet up and 4 feet back from the sitting position, and find if to be very loud in anything but really noisy scenes. Thinking about investing in a hush box, and wanted to see what anyone else thought, or maybe any sugestions.

Thanks
Jeff Troiano

My 5700 is ceiling mounted in roughly the same position as yours and it is only noticeable when I try to listen for it. Up to now (after 5 months) nobody has raised the issue of a noisy projector. Some people are sensitive to the noise. Perhaps your particular projector has a more noisy than normal color wheel (does the sound you hear come off as a kind of high pitched whine?).

If that's the cause give Infocus a call.

John

I find mine distractingly loud these days. It is not the color wheel but the fans that are making the noise. It is noticeable in any scene that does not have a lot of action. It does make you wonder why we spend extra money on sound systems to eke out any tiny amount of distracting noise only to put jet engines in the back of the theater! My 5700 gets louder every day. When I first got it it was nice and quiet, now after 30 minutes or so it switches something and it gets very loud. Otherwise I'm very happy.

My IF5700 had the same problem a few months ago, after about 1/2 hour it got very noisy. I brought it to infocus repare centre (my pj still under warrenty), I was told the "digital image engine" need to be replaced. I have got my pj back from them 3 months now, it has been very quiet since

Well I still haven't gotten mine back from Infocus. I called yesterday and it is on hold for parts. They are supposed to let me know today when the parts are expected.

However, in order to get it for the weekend they would have to ship it out today (unless they overnight it). I sure hope my dealer has a demo unit available....

Has anyone experienced a brightness uniformity problem with their IF5700?

I noticed yesterday evening that my IF5700 had developed a problem with brightness uniformity. Faint vertical bands of different brightness could be seen when watching a DVD. I turned off the DVD/HD receiver to insure the issue wasn't related to the receiver or DVI cable. The issue still appeared and was very pronounced when projecting a IF5700 background screen in either white or blue. The issue is also unlikely related to the bulb, as it has only 174 hrs of recorded use.

Well, my dealer has no demo units. I just got off of the phone with Tech Support, and they are going to see what they can do. No "engines" in stock. Also no 5700's available for exchange.

Tomorrow is business day 10 (they received the projector on Aug 26). If they can find an engine or an exchange unit and get it to me by Saturday morning, then that would be some of the best customer service I've ever seen. My next projector will definately be Infocus.

I'm not holding my breath, but I am crossing my fingers...

Wow, I am amazed! They offered me a great deal to upgrade to a 7205, and are going to next day air it. I'll have my new projector tomorrow!


Read all about it here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=444314)

Wow - I wonder if I could get get my 5700 to break and become a NASCAR fan.

I was looking at a 5700 the other day at a HT store. They had their display model on sale for $3000, and they will put in a new bulb. I can't find a cheaper price on the web anywhere, but thought I would run it by you guys and see if you thought that was a deal or not?

thanks.

25% off current list and you are saving $500 lamp off (>10%) the bat. It should have been in the store less than a year since it has not been out that long - so the warranty should start anew with you. Get an extended viewing and make sure it has not been problematic - has it been on all day for six months? Is it dusty? I think everyone in this thread has had their problems solved with warranty service. You could buy it and hope something fails - Innova just had his replaced with a SP7205 for a small upgrade fee due to lack of spare parts inventory! Manage that hat trick and get the SP7205 for half price!

Depends on how motivated the store is to replace it with something new. I think 25-50% off current list is fair on the used market depending on extras and condition. Is this a store you have done business with before and are they willing to deal? Are they dropping Infocus as a dealer or will they be there to support you down the road?

You will not find a cheaper price anywhere on the web from an authorized dealer - as online selling is simply not allowed for new units.

http://www.infocushome.com/deauthorized/index.htm

Interesting question - how much would the SP5700 owners here take to get upgrade funds for a new projector?

Thanks for the info--I recognize you from the local Portland threads, do I not?

The store is Magnolia Hi-Fi (I don't think they're a national chain, so I didn't mention it specifically, but since you're in town, it's more meaningful). I go there on a semi-regular basis as they are more my price range than some of the specialty HT stores, but their sales people are nearly always fairly knowledgable. The projector has almost 2000 hours on it---hence them giving the new bulb. It would come with the full warranty. It looks like it's in good shape. I don't know how willing to deal they are--I'll have to check that out.

I like your "interesting question" and would be interested to see how people respond.

Originally posted by sladewatts
I was looking at a 5700 the other day at a HT store. They had their display model on sale for $3000, and they will put in a new bulb.

That's not much of a deal, very little off actual street prices (from legit dealers).

Anything over ~$2300 and I'd go for a new model... I guess it depends on how willing you are to buy a used projector.

Hi I just bought a 5700 and I have a very very basic question......

I thought since the 5700 would have the Matterhorn chip I would not
see any black bars when playing widescreen movies. But on almost all
dvds that I tried I see the black bar on the top/bottom of the screen.

Yesterday I tried to watch Finding Nemo and I was suprised when there
were no black bars.

Could you please explain me what is going on. Is it my settings or it depends on the dvd movie.

Thank you.

Most movies are a 2.35:1 ratio. The Matterhorn chip is 1.78:1 chip (16:9). This means that you will still have black bars at the top and bottom when watchin 2.35:1 movies. However, most of the animated movies (Nemo, Shrek, Monsters, Inc, etc) are 1.78:1.

It is just a matter of alot of different formats for different movies. The black bars are smaller on your screen than if you had bought a 4:3 projector.

sladewatts,

PM you with the pricing I let my demo SP5700 go for - did you get it ? Use that as a comparison point. Yep I am a charter PDX local AVSer (used to post as krag before I had the mid-life crisis and decided to do HT for a living)

I don't know any legit dealer taking 25% off on new boxes - online selling is not authorized - demo rooms/projectors are required to be an Infocus dealer and that comes with expenses.

A retail store is certainly not going to give you that kind of discount - but a demo they have to move to install new models. Surely they would rather sell next years rather than last years models - so that is your negotiation tactic.

Originally posted by dvdakias
Hi I just bought a 5700 and I have a very very basic question......

I thought since the 5700 would have the Matterhorn chip I would not
see any black bars when playing widescreen movies. But on almost all
dvds that I tried I see the black bar on the top/bottom of the screen.

Yesterday I tried to watch Finding Nemo and I was suprised when there
were no black bars.

Could you please explain me what is going on. Is it my settings or it depends on the dvd movie.

Thank you.

Your screen is probably formated for 16:9/HDTV, which is not 1.85:1 like most DVD's. Setup your projector (zoom ring) and screen for the 16:9 image, and then you can hit the zoom button on your remote when watching on the DVD source to remove any black bars on 1.85:1 DVD's (it will overscan a bit on the sides, but if you have a nice frame you won't see it).

Thank you for your answer guys......

I have one more question.

When I am watching a movie sometimes I notice, when the camera moves left or right that some parts on the screen (e.g faces) look pixelized or like the resolution drops very low.This happens instantly.This happens whether I use progressive scan or not and it is a bit annoying.

Is that the screendoor effect or could it be that the projector has a problem?
Can I do something about that?


Thank you.

I had to send my 5700 in for a problem. The "Replace Lamp" message came on with only 60 hours on the clock. They received it on Sept 21st and i finally got some answers today saying that they are waiting on some board. The parts were on order and were "trickling in" soon. I kept pressing on the issue and the service rep put me on hold and came back and offered to replace my unit with a new unit. He said the replacement unit would be a designated "Like New" unit which would carry over the existing warranty. I have heard about the offers to upgrade to the 7205, but that really isn't an option for me, considering i don't want to fork over any extra cash and also the throw distance would be about 4 feet shorter and would not work in my layout in my room.

Anyone gone the route of having a "Like New" replacement?

I'd keep pressing. Maybe you could negotiate a new 2 year warranty rather than a carryover.

Only 60 hours? Do you travel a lot - I put 60 hours on in the first week or so.

Originally posted by Mit07
I'd keep pressing. Maybe you could negotiate a new 2 year warranty rather than a carryover.

Only 60 hours? Do you travel a lot - I put 60 hours on in the first week or so.

I purchased it back in April, finally got around to getting everything up and running in August. Room has taken a long time to finish, darn staples.

Tried asking this in other threads with no luck, I´ll give it one try here.
I´m getting my HTPC this week, it has a 3.2ghz Pentium and Radeon 9800XT graphics card. I´m gonna connect it to my Infocus 5700 with a DVI . Any help with the powerstrip(resolution, refresh(PAL+NTSC) etc.)+Radeon(filters, anti-aliasing etc.) settings would be great(I´m pretty much clueless when it comes to PC´s).

I thought I´d use WinDVD and try the Trimension, but if any other players are more recomened here then that´s what I´ll go for.

Should I be using "Dscaler" along with any programs?

I think you would have more success in the Home Theater Computers section.

keyser,

2 saved threads:
htpc 5700 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=434367&highlight=powerstrip+5700)
htpc 5700 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4052374&highlight=infocus+5700+powerstrip#post4052374)

I just read those threads, I doesn´t seem like they have found a way to get 1:1 pixel maping with the 5700. Noone in this thread using an HTPC for their 5700?

I have a 100in diagonal screen and my IF5700 is mounted on the ceiling about 14 feet back. With this set-up, my zoom needs to be maxed to fill up the screen. I had the pre-wiring done when I built my house when I was expecting to purchase another projector. In any case, I was wondering whether it would be worth going through the trouble to move the projector back. How much (if any) would the picture improve if I used less zoom? What distance would be optimal? I could move it back up to about three feet, however, the electrical outlet and other cables would end up in front of the projector. Beyond asthetics, are there any problems having the stuff in front of the projector (the center of the lens is about 7 inches from the ceiling)?

You can do an easy test for yourself. Put the zoom about 50% and watch the PQ. Now zoom it all the way to fill the screen. Is there any degration in the PQ? If not your problem is solved. If you see some degradation (I doubt it) you have some decisions to make in regards to remounting your PJ.

Good luck.

Pinecone,
I faced a similar situation...house wired for a different projector and I had to mount it back one stud to fill up the screen. I thought about opening up the ceiling and moving the wiring, but instead decided to do my best and hide them. I used Wiremold products to hide the cables on the ceiling. While not perfect, after painting I can live with it. Take a look at the pics in my gallery.

Patrickwebb:

I purchased my 5700 in Oct 03. I sent it to Infocus in Sept. 04 for correction of a light uniformity issue. The bulb had only 174 hrs of use time. After three weeks, Infocus offered to replace my 5700 with a "New" 5700. I inquired whether they were proposing replacing my projector with a referb. The answer I received was no, it would be a completely "new" unit. I would think a "like new" replacement would be a referb. You should press for a "new" projector.

I have HTPC with 1:1 on my 5700, Matrox P650, Theatertek, powerstrip, DVI and no problems...

I'm considering whether to buy a new DVD player for my 5700 in order to take advantage of the DVI connection. Will there be a noticable improvement over the component connection? Which low cost DVI (or HDMI) equipped DVD player would you recommend? Has anyone had experience with the Sony 975 or the new Panasonic or Samsung units?

I just changed from a pio 737 with component to a Denon 3910 DVI. The picture is noticably sharper and cleaner, an improvement but not a huge one.

I'm a 5700 owner since March '04 (mounted May '04) and have approx 850 hours on the PJ. I had the Colorwheel whine from day one, but it wasn't too obtrusive, so I didn't worry about it.

It started getting worse about a month ago, plus I seemed to be having lockups from a powered off position and one when it powered on (about six times in six months) and my dealer said that was too many, so I sent it back just before thanksgiving-its been at IF since last monday.

Anyway, I hadn't visited this post for a while and hadn't heard about the "backordered" light engines. Does anyone know if this "shortage" is over? IF told me 15 business days is their "standard" turnaround. I'm actually hoping I get it back this week.

Robert

What´s a good place to order a new bulb for the infocus 5700, the infocushome site has it for $495.00. If anyone knows of a cheaper online seller please PM or e-mail me.
Anyone tried bulbdirect.com ?

keyser,

Noticeably sharper and cleaner - that is a result of edge enhancement and MPEG noise reduction - which causes ringing and smearing. Not all improvements are free of side effects.

The goal for a DVI player is that it have the same Faroudja chip as the Infocus SP5700 - and that it have the same adjustment menu. Otherwise you are giving up in the deinterlacing and signal quality department to switch from analog to digital.

We cannot discuss where to buy on this forum so don't ask. Do some careful research and you will find the business projector the SP5700 is based on that shares the same lamp.

rlundy,
interesting - it used to be 10 business days. Guess the SP5700 repairs were taking longer and they extended their deadline?

"Noticeably sharper and cleaner - that is a result of edge enhancement and MPEG noise reduction - which causes ringing and smearing. Not all improvements are free of side effects."

I´m a little confused, what are you referring to? I meant the 3910 was with DVI was a little sharper and cleaner than my old pio with component. I assume that´s because of no D/A conversion, no CUE, better frequency response etc. ?

Isn´t it OK to PM or e-mail prices?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=263776 are the rules (<$3500 forum but my understanding same rules apply here)

Did not realize you changed connections - thought you were comparing DVD players. I have heard the same comment sharper/clearer about the Denon and it is really due to signal processing (which is not all good)

What do you mean by the Denon´s cause ringing and edge enhancement..I thought the Denons were among the best in the business? And I also thought my older Pio 737 had a bad ringing problem.

A sharpness or luma detail enhancement control causes ringing

A digital noise filter, or mpeg noise reduction causes smearing.

First thing I do is turn off all those "enhancements" - but often these controls are well hidden or do not exist.

This is why I prefer 480i - since I know the Faroudja controls on the projector do exist.

Are these artifacts something that the Secrets test´s miss?
I would have thought the "enhancers" would be turned off in the DVD player as default?

Secrets reviews are more focused on DVD deinterlacer quality and seeing what scenes they can find to to cause the image to break up.

It has been my experience that enhancers are turned on by default to make things look different at the store. How would one choose a display or player if they all looked the same showing ISF correct video?

Hello,
I accidentally posted this in different forum before…here it is:

”I am using a SP5700 with an Arcam DV79 DVD player connected via HDMI-DVI, and feeding studio RGB video to the projector. Can Bob Williams, or anyone else tell me what the right RGB levels are on the 5700 for studio RGB video via DVI? Also, does anyone know if the 5700 can be forced to accept interlaced video via its DVI input?”


krasmuzik recommended searching for DVI and Bob Williams, however all I could find was the RGB settings through DVI for the screenplay 7200. Does anyone have them for the SP5700 ?

Thanks,
George

Hate to inform you guys - but the MSRP dropped to $3499. Time to switch forums!

I'll ask the mods to move the thread!

When I use 1080i with my infocus 5700, the picture wobbles/vibrates... anyone else have this problem?

Not me.

Do you have a 3910 and 5700 and 1080i works fine? Tried it for PAL also?

Sorry, I don't know what a 3910 is, and I have no PAL sources.

All you said was "When I use 1080i with my infocus 5700, the picture wobbles/vibrates... anyone else have this problem?"

Mojo

Sorry about that. I forgot to mention I have a Denon 3910, and it´s set to 3910. So the question should have been..

When I use 1080i on my Denon 3910 with my infocus 5700, the picture wobbles/vibrates... anyone else have this problem?

Doesn´t anyone have a 3910 with their 5700? I´d like to know if it´s the player or the display doing the wobbling.

Hello,
I have a screenplay 5700 projector connected to an Arcam DV79 DVD player via HDMI/DVI. I am outputting Studio RGB video from the player (HDMI) and feeding the projector via the DVI input. I have set the color gains at 66 and the color offsets at 39 in the projector. Then I tried to calibrate grayscale using the Digital Video Essentials. My main problem is that while I can see all three stripes in the grayscale pattern when I connect the player to the projector via component, I can only see the two above-black stripes via DVI. Does the fact that I don’t see the below-black stripe mean that I am clipping below black information? If this is the case, can this be corrected? The Arcam DV79 player did pass the Blacker-than-Black test in Chris Dearing’s Benchmark.

Thanks,
George

glk6655,

That is the whole point to the adjustment is to clip the blacker than black. Otherwise your contrast ratio is lowered for that occasional test DVD that has excursion into the forbidden blacker than black zone. Studio RGB should allow blacker than black to pass if you raise the brightness (offsets) - but the whole purpose is you are calibrating the projector to maximize contrast ratio! Studio RGB is about allowing this headroom/footroom in the interface - but it does not make sense to compromise display contrast/brightness by not clipping what should not be image information.

Just adjust like you would with a player that does not pass blacker than black. Keep the near black bars barely visible.

If your DVD player is correct Studio RGB there should be no need to calibrate the DVI at all.

Hi guys, I posted a new thread in htpc forum, but thought I would give you guys a shot to help me figure this out!

Lost my DVI connection (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=484549)

P4/3.0CGHz
ATI RADEON 9600 256M 8X AGP
InFocus 5700 projector

The other day I was messing with powerstrip and changing resolutions. I had gotten success using a powerstip 1024x576 preconfigured resolution. I changed to a different resolution for whatever reason, i think it was 1400x1080 or something close to that, and all of a sudden it was like someone unplugged the dvi cable from projector. This actually happened to me before when I first had my projector and was running windows media player and clicked on the "visualizaitions - full screen". I was able to use my VGA cable and reboot and the DVI connection came back on that one time before.

But now, i have tried everything i can think of. I switched over to VGA and changed the resolution back to the last good one and no DVI. I then rebooted, no DVI. I then removed powerstrip and used 1024x768, no DVI. I then did a system restore from week before, no DVI. I am really frustrated.

Please help me think of what it could possibly be.

Hello,

I am noticing a green tint on my 5700 lately (connected via HDMI/DVI to an Arcam DV79 DVD player). My lamb has only 100 hours on it and the dealer offered to give me a lamb replacement. Do you thing this is a lamb related problem that can be corrected with a new lamb?

Try changing the color space - some reports of upconverting DVD players using HD instead of SD color space which will result in green push.

Or in the RGB gain menu - take green gain a few clicks down.

Every lamp has the problem that in the first 10% of life it will be drained of red. So yes a new lamp will restore the reds - but then you are right back where you started before too long.

Is this a sign that the 5700 is reaching maturity or losing popularity or both? There appears to be less and less posting on this particular machine.

Maybe the product is so well built that virtually nothing goes wrong and there is nothing to complain about.

Certainly into EOL phase after being out 15 months! That is the way the forum is - always excited about new stuff.

Hello krasmuzik,

Thanks for all the good advice.

I am sure the color space is correct. Even though my DVD player can output either YUV or RGB video via HDMI, when the player communicates with the projector it defaults to RGB, since I believe this is the only one the 5700 supports over DVI.

You say that every lamp will be drained of red in the first 10% of its life. Is this universal, or something to do with Infocus? Also, is the green tint going to get progressively worse as the lamp ages? After 100 hours it is most evident in skin tones, however to be honest the effect is subtle. Nevertheless, if it’s going to get worse I guess it would be pretty nasty by the time the lamp reaches the end of its life (~2000 hours).

Thanks,
George

Nope - just the nature of lamps. JVC Dila used to use the Xenon lamps which are native 6500K and hold it well thru life - but they still drain blue instead of red (and eye is blue insensitive)

I wait for 10% lamp life before calibrating to wait for the lamp to burn-in.

If it is RGB not YUV then the color space of SD vs. HD. is made in the player and cannot be changed on the projector. Any player settings for it?

Infocus does like to stretch D65 over to green just to make it brighter. You are using 6500K with white peaking 0 correct?

Maybe you can find an ISF tech that will work hourly - I find it only takes an hour or two on Infocus since they are so close to begin with - thus I can charge much less than ISF standard fee.

Hi All,
Hopefully this isn't a lame question, but what actually happens when you adjust the brightness (besides the image getting brighter ;) ) on the 5700? Why I ask is that my 5700 is 12 months old (350 hours) and if I calibrate it with DVE I need to set the brightness to 66 to for the brightness calibration patterns. Does this brightness level sound a bit high or is this a function of the signal being send from the DVD player (Denon 2900)? Does the brightness of the lamp actually change or is this a function of the signal the projector receives? Other that this curiosity, I'm extremely happy with my 5700 / 2900 combo.

cheers,
Stephen

My 5700 is now 8 months old and it has 1000 wonderful hours on it (we use it alot, pretty much every evening). I haven't noticed much degradation in the picture or brightness, but I know that time will come probably before the end of this calendar year. I want to order my replacement bulb now, so that I won't miss any time if the current bulb should fail before 2000hrs.

Do any of you have recommendations for bulb dealers? Looking for lowest cost obviously.

whmacs

Try setting your black level enhancement off on the Denon. The Infocus projectors are expecting 7.5IRE - if you have good voltages I have rarely moved far from 50. I prefer to find the settings on the DVD player resulting in fewer adjustments.

If you are running progressive rather than interlaced - then your player is probably adding some gamma causing to raise brightness to compensate.

The proper brightness setting is when DVE black bars test has the BTB and blackground the same - they are not dithering, but your near black bars are barely dithering. Turn up the gamma to help you see near black better (just put it back to where you like it). You have to be up close to the screen to best see the dithering - usually green, sometimes blue, rarely red.

I assume you are using component - the procedure is different for DVI.

BTW brightness is a video black level control - do not confuse it with a lamp brightness control!

jdiehl

I have actually had one customer ask if he qualifies for a frequent buyer plan - six months already 2000. I do cut them deals on recalibrating with new lamps.

Only your local authorized screen player dealer can sell you a lamp - but Infocus Online does sell them under a different part number. Do your research and you will figure out what business projector is the same lamp.

Hi Krasmuzik,
Thanks for the excellent advice. Some more information I should of added is that I'm in PAL land (Australia) does this make a difference with the 7.5IRE and turning the black level on or off on the 2900? I have the Denon 2900 outputing a PAL Progressive 576P signal to the 5700. I also have the GAMMA set to 'Film 2' when calibrating with DVE, should I leave the 5700 on the 'Film 2' when calibrating with DVE? Once again, thanks for all the advice.

Regards,
Stephen

Not sure if PAL models has different firmware for defaults. Try it both ways and see which gets you closer to 50. The less adjustment the better! PAL is supposed to be 0IRE - but you are rather high on your brightness at 66 so maybe it is expecting 7.5IRE

Gamma does not impact calibration - just makes it easier to see dark black while calibrating. Just set it back to your preference when done!

Originally posted by krasmuzik
Do your research and you will figure out what business projector is the same lamp.

10-4. I guess I could have asked who has the best deal on a Knoll HD177 replacement bulb since it's just a rebadged IF-5700. ;)

Originally posted by krasmuzik
Not sure if PAL models has different firmware for defaults. Try it both ways and see which gets you closer to 50. The less adjustment the better! PAL is supposed to be 0IRE - but you are rather high on your brightness at 66 so maybe it is expecting 7.5IRE

Hi Krasmuzik,
This turned out to be the case, I set the black level on the Denon to 7.5IRE (instead of the PAL default of 0IRE). I then recalibrated with DVE and got a brightness level of 49! So the 5700 was expecting a black level of 7.5IRE regardless of whether it was being feed a PAL signal. As you also said it makes sense to adjust things at the source instead of 'pumping' up the brightness on the projector to compensate.

Regards & thanks,
Stephen

I noticed there´s a new firmware out for the 5700, has anyone installed it? How is that done anyway.. do I need a special cable with M1 at on end and USB on the other.. and then what?

http://www.infocus.com/service/sp5700/software.asp?site_lang=1&site_region=1&

Do let me know what you find out.

I wish they would support a discrete remote code to select a User preset. I was disappointed not to see that in the change list.

Mojo

I have a question about the DVI input vs component input.

I purchased my 5700 last summer (July) and have enjoyed every minute of it. I currently have 1010hrs on the unit. Since day 1, I've used a RCA DTC-100 HD receiver to watch SD and HD television through a component video connection.

Today, I purchased a RCA DTC-210 HD receiver, which has a DVI output on it. Since buying the 5700, I had not yet even used the DVI input. I hooked up the DTC-210 via DVI, expecting to see some improvement in picture quality, but the reverse is true. The DVI cable I'm using is the Infocus one (with the USB on one end). I have the DTC-210 connected via the DVI and component cables so that I can easily do quick A/B comparisons. I find the component video connection much smoother and softer looking, and the DVI connection seems to sharp and edgy for my taste. On moving images, I even saw some motion artifacts on the DVI connection that I do not see via component video. Is this normal, or after 1000hrs are my eyes just used to the softer image that the analog cables give compared to the digital perfection (or imperfections) that DVI puts out?

I setup the DVI input with identical settings to where I had the component video settings (pretty much everything on defaults, film 1 gamma, although I've bumped the brightness a bit in the last few hundred hours as the lamp has dimmed slightly). Is there anything special that I need to adjust on the projector when using the DVI input to make the image look better? With the component connections, this thing was pretty much plug and play from the get-go... I calibrated using AVIA and it was very close to perfect out of the box, but not having any experience with it's DVI input, I'm not so sure that's the case here.

Most settop boxes have lousy DVI - their deinterlacing/scaling chips are probably horrid compared to the Faroudja you have in the projector. It is quite possible they have the edge enhancement cranked up on the box, and very likely their deinterlacer is not even remotely Faroudja quality.

Hang out in the settop boxes forums on here and see if others with other DVI displays see the same thing!

For example on my comcast PVR - the DVI input was softer than the component - logic would say the digital signal should not have any analog bandwidth limiting circuits in the way!

The adjustments need to be on the settop box - you need to prevent them from screwing with the image and not try to take on the impossible task to clean it up after the fact!

Hi Guys,
After playing around with 0 IRE and 7.5 IRE on my Denon 2900 (PAL Progressive) feeding my 5700, I've gone back to the 2900 set to 0IRE. Using DVE this sets the brightness at 66 and gives me an image that I'm happy with. While setting the 2900 to 7.5IRE lead to a brightness of 49, it just didn't seem to have quite the same depth (less contrast) than 0IRE.
So while on the subject of 'fiddling' the setting on the 5700 does anyone have any setting / tips to squeeze the last bit of contrast out of the 5700? I know about the ND filter, but is there any other setting I should look into? To be honest, trying to use DVE to adjust the contrast ratio has me a bit confused as I don't see any real difference. Any advise or an explaination of what I'm doing wrong would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Stephen

That is interesting - wonder why that would be. Seems like increasing brightness would increase subtle gradient banding. The contrast measure should have been the same either way! Or maybe your DVD is optimal at 0IRE as far as maximum bit usage in the player?

That is the point - you should not see any difference between 0IRE and 7.5IRE other than where the settings end up!

Do you know the blackness trick - near black dithering, blackground solid black, blacker-than-black not seen.

Hi Kras,
I actually spoke with the Infocus technical guys here in Australia and they also said the same thing as you, in theory setting the player or 0IRE or 7.5IRE should not make any difference, but in practice they have noticed suttle differences in contrast (with IRE 0 PAL being slightly better). If you don't mind could you explain the blackness trick or point me to a link and I will give it another try. Just to check, with DVE you increase the brightness until all three bars are visible, then decrease it until the BTB bars just disappear into the background, correct?,
or do you keep decreasing the brightness after the BTB bars disappear and the near black are dithering, but still visible up close to the screen?
or turn the brightness way down and slowly increase it until the near black bars just become visible?

thanks,
Stephen

That explains it - you are in Australia - so the native PAL signal is supposed to be 0IRE and you have better dynamic range coming from the DVD signal.

"or do you keep decreasing the brightness after the BTB bars disappear and the near black are dithering, but still visible up close to the screen?
or turn the brightness way down and slowly increase it until the near black bars just become visible?"

Either way should get your there - if by visible you mean barely dithering when the blackground and BTB are not. Can you see the BTB at all in the 0IRE setting? Crank up the gamma - increase visibility of near black - makes it easier to set brightness.

Yes, if i increase the brightness enough around 75, I can see the BTB bars. The other thing I've been doing is adjusting the brightness just low enough that the BTB disappear. I'll try again but keep decreasing it until the near black bars disappear also, then raise the brightness until I can just detect the dithering of the near black bars.

thanks,
Stephen

I am looking at changing my current DVD Player(MarantzDV 8300) currently connected via component, to the Denon 3910 and to connect via DVI.
Anyone who uses the 5700 with a 3910? Is there a substantial improvement with the DVI?

I am prepared to ask what I think is my very first "stupid question" since joining this forum!!! :)

I just decided to do a little cleaning/maintenance on my Knoll rebadge this past weekend. I looked through my owners manual, but didn't find anything about cleaning any air filters. Does the 5700 have any air filters to clean???

No air filters in the 5700.

Thanks. It certainly didn't appear so. That's a relief.

I'm interested in buying an inexpensive DVD players with DVI to use with my 5700. I want to see for myself if there's an improvement using DVI and am willing to shell out around $300 for the experience. My first inclination would be the Sony NS975. Has anyone had any luck with this combination? Are there other DVI equipped DVD players that have worked well or not well with the 5700? I just want to make sure that there are no compatibility issues.

Originally posted by pinecone
I want to see for myself if there's an improvement using DVI and am willing to shell out around $300 for the experience.

Been there, done that.

It depends on the progressive scan DVD player you're going to be comparing it to. I have a Panasonic RP-91 and did the DVD player shootout for myself and put every DVI enabled, upconverting, etc etc DVD player that Circuit City and Best Buy had to "lend" me on a 30 day return policy. ;)

I found that I actually like the picture better on my RP-91 than these upconverting players, or at best they were equal. I think the processing in the 5700 by itself is going to do a better job than most upconverting DVD players (especially in the < $300 range).

Which players did you try? Did you have any sync (or other) problems with any of the players through the DVI? Finally, when you send a signal to the projector through DVI, does the DVD player necessarily have to upconvert it first? Why not just send the 480 signal straight to the projector and let the projector do the converting?

Originally posted by pinecone
Which players did you try? Did you have any sync (or other) problems with any of the players through the DVI?

Toshiba 5980
Sammy 841 and 931
Zenith DVB318
Panny S97

I didn't test the Sony at the time, but I think that was it (out of Best Buy and Circuit City players... I didn't want to "demo" a Denon or high end one from a boutique store knowing that I would be returning it no matter the results). No sync problems at all.

Originally posted by pinecone
Finally, when you send a signal to the projector through DVI, does the DVD player necessarily have to upconvert it first? Why not just send the 480 signal straight to the projector and let the projector do the converting?

Yeah, I tried sending it through as 480i and 480p, and like the 720p or 1080i output, the resulting image looked like it had more noise than anything. Perhaps my eyes like the analog component video and smoother image compared to the stark/digital/exact detail that a digital connection gives you. I use the DVI input on my other HDTV (32" Sony CRT tube), but on my front projector I like the smoother images that regular component video gives you.

I have read reviews of the Bravo D1 which utilizes DVI output which sends a digital signal through to the projector. As far as progressive scan I also understand that the 5700 does a good job on its own.

I should mention that the Bravo D2 is out. Do a search on Bravo D1 or D2 and you should find reviews.

John

PS-I have not tried it myself. I have a Toshiba (inexpensive) DVD player of very recent vintage and the PQ is great.

Fellows,

A friend owns a 5700 for 5 months (400~500 hours) and now the lamp replacement message starts to appear. Searching this thread I saw two similar complains about short lamp life (4 or 5 months). The only solution is to buy a new lamp or the warranty (500 hours or 3 months) is covering this issue?

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Filipe Rangel.

I would have him check with Infocus. They are pretty good about these things and they know they have had a lot of problems with the Philips lamps (poor quality control).

Originally posted by pinecone
I'm interested in buying an inexpensive DVD players with DVI to use with my 5700. I want to see for myself if there's an improvement using DVI and am willing to shell out around $300 for the experience. My first inclination would be the Sony NS975. Has anyone had any luck with this combination? Are there other DVI equipped DVD players that have worked well or not well with the 5700? I just want to make sure that there are no compatibility issues.

I am using mine with Denon DVD-1400 using component and Apple Mac Mini using DVI and the image quality is simply great. Although you have to use a special software to enable 1024x576p on the computer.

My projector has 300 hours on it. It is beginning to cycle 3 - 4 times before striking the bulb to come on. This takes as long as 4-5 minutes to get any light out of the projector after it has been turned on. This is a replacement bulb since my first one wouldn't swith to high power mode with only 30 hours on it. Infocus replaced under warranty.

Has anyone else had a similiar problem with their 5700?


csmab

Hi folks,
I wanted to buy the 5700 as my next projector when I had the money. Unfortunately when I went to demo it I found the brightness to be lacking.
The room was bitch black with a $2500 92inch screen.

The picture quality was good but the lack of punch in the image turned me away.

Has anyone else had this experience with 5700?
It sucks because I was close to buying it. Now I'm researching all over again, something with much higher lumens.

What exactly are you comparing it to? On average over the life of the lamp - that setup is as bright as a regular TV. Infocus is the brightest HT projector there is. You can even make it much brighter than a plasma if you use a smaller high gain screen.

In a dedicated movie room with no lighting - TV bright is actually too bright and it should be 3x dimmer yet. This is only possible if the SP5700 is strongly filtered at the lens.

I wasn't comparing it to anything, it just looked dull to. My existing projector is only 700lumens so I was expecting a much brighter image from the 5700 with it's calibrated 1000lumen output.

If the image was atleast 120inch I would have looked into further but I concluded that if it's not doing it for me at 92inch it's just going to get worse as you increase the size.

Maybe the bulb was dying in the demo projector. Although thinking about it now when I first entered the demo room they had the really expensive infocus 7205 showing and it was dull too. Then he switched the 5700 on and it was worse.

I've been having this experience alot actually. I have a bit of money to spend on a new projector but I just can't find anything I like and is bright enough.

Maybe it's me or maybe it's the demo's. It hard enough to choose without having to take into account that the demo's might be flawed.

Anyone else had this problem?

Luptong, you need to go back to look at the demo 5700 & 7205 again. On a dedicated rooom with 92" screen, the 5700 & 7205 will be way way too bright if there is nothing wrong with those units & screen. They are one of the brightest projector around.

Many 5700 owners buy neutral density filters to reduce the brightness. When I first installed mine with a 110" screen, I thought it was VERY bright in my completely dark HT. I've got a DIY screen that is probably about 1.0 gain.

Check out the hours on the demo unit (Menu... About...). I'd be interested to find out what kind of screen they are using too.

What is your existing projector - nobody else rates their projectors in calibrated movie mode - so the Infocus should have been at least as twice as bright as what you have.

I started with a Sony HS20, and replaced it with a 5700 when the Sony had unsolvable problems.

The 5700 is bright enough on my 92-inch screen that I can leave a small light on in the back of the room with bright source material like football.

Mojo

One thing I've been noticing with my 5700 as the lamp approaches 800 hours is that it seems to take longer to warm up and come on. That could be selective memory though.

Mojo

I had been using the hitachi pjx10 (700lumens) prior to seeing the 5700 demo. I read at projectorcentral that this machine tested at 300lumens, I Ialso read that the 5700 tested very close to its rated output of 1000 lumens.
So naturally when I saw the demo I was expecting to see a bright image given what I was use too and the 92inch display. I don't know what name the screen was just that it was white and expensive $2500.

I'm confused like everyone else. I think I better take another look or find another demo before I come to anymore conclusion.

It certainly could appear to be 300 lumens with a low power older lamp plus ND2 filter. The projector could be an original release display model as it has been out for 18mo - maybe the lamp never was changed and ND2 filter never removed?. It could have been miscalibrated as well. Who knows!

I am not sure if this had already been covered.
Over the last month, I have noticed a high speed whine from my 5700 only when I feed it a signal and it lasts for about 30mins and the goes away.
If the PJ is on but not being fed a signal, the noise is off. This is component, composite and s-video.
Any thoughts?
George.

Hey guys-

First time posting today, think I posted wrong earlier and it went to wrong area.

Anyhow, need advice on a neutral density filter for my projector.

Read somewhere in the forum that it helps with the old DLP hangover. Am adjusting to projection and the head hurts a wee bit.

Which filter should I look for??

Any suggestions much appreciated!

Tabasco Lil

Unless you forgot to take off your sunglasses or the room was fully lit there must have been a problem with the PJ. The lamp is probably nearly dead on the demo.

I used to say 67mm - but then I recall last full they did a minor lens upgrade - not sure if it was to a threaded one or not. Since I have not sold any after that serial number of the switch - dunno!

I bet B&H photo is good about returns though if you get the wrong one.

Just started using a DVI DVD player and noticed that the Faroudja controls (such as selecting 2:2 and 3:2 pulldown) are gone... as is color saturation!

Is this normal?

Also, is anyone out there also playing PAL discs? It could be my imagination, but I would swear I'm getting more aliasing (jagged diagonal lines) when I use PAL. I'd think the opposite should be true, since it has 20% more resolution.

With my old DVD player, I could swear that when I selected 2:2 pulldown with PAL, the image got sharper... but now I can't even select 2:2.

Any thoughts or insights from anyone?

mojo_LA

That is to be expected - DVI is RGB and RGB is decoded video. So you cannot use the Faroudja deinterlacing features nor can you do video decoding on the projector. Your source should have these controls, though if it is digital it should not be screwed up - unless it is a flag reader.

What you will find is that even the Faroudja equipped players - that the projector has a better control menu. So the pure digital of DVI may not be worth the lack of control.

Also have you adjusted for Video DVI in the RGB offsets/gain to match up the lesser brightness/contrast range?

Thanks for the reply... yes I did re-adjust the RGB values/brightness/contrast, I am happy with the picture and I can adjust saturation with the Oppo...

Still, I'm worried about the aliasing I see in PAL output. Others say the Oppo's PAL output is fine, and Oppo sent me a reply saying this is the first they have heard of lesser quality PAL output. So, I am left to wonder if the 5700 isn't properly processing the PAL signal from the Oppo.

Most of what I watch is NTSC, but I really like the extra clarity of the PAL discs I watch and want to regain the fidelity I had with my old crappy DVD player's PAL image.

I could try going back to component, but everyone has said the Oppo isn't worth using over component.

What resolution is in your about menu - maybe 576P is not being sent?

I haven't checked the about menu, but I am certain that when I switched to PAL mode the 5700 re-callibrated itself and displayed "576p"

Tonight I will let the Oppo convert the PAL signal to NTSC and see if there is actually an improvement.

Guess you need to check the Oppo threads - maybe it is just a PAL reader not a PAL generator! Could it be downscaling 576i to 480P then upto 576P?

I am fairly certain the Oppo is sending out a true PAL signal.

I was wondering if anyone in this thread considered the ae700? If so, why did you choose the 5700?

The bulb in my lp350 just popped so i'm ready for an upgrade and am considering these 2 projectors for their long throw.

Any comments would be appreciated!


Jeff

obot

LCD vs. DLP.

Do some more reading - you will find plenty on that topic.

The SP5700 is older chip - so contrast is nothing special - but it is bright and well calibrated.

Maybe you are confusing with the SP5000 which is the competitor LCD to the AE700?

Thanks for the reply.

I am familiar with the differences between LCD and DLP. It's my understanding that the pros and cons of each are becoming less distinct?

I've been watching DLP for the past 4 years or so and think it's great but wouldn't mind trying out LCD.

would you consider the choice between the 5700 and the ae700 strictly a decision between DLP and LCD?

I'm sure i'd be happy with the 5700 but am tempted by the ae700 because it's less expensive.

Did you try the ae700 before deciding on the 5700?

I'm thinking about buying an ae700 with a good return policy to see for myself.

Kras,
Infocus has offered to let me "upgrade" my 4805 with the DVI problem to a 5700 for a pretty reasonable fee. I finally have some decent HD feeds now and was looking at the ae700 and few others also before the DVI failure. I would say I'm at about 50% dvd movies and 50% HD fluff viewing now....

I had the 4805 about as dialed in as it was going to get and loved it...think I would enjoy the 5700 at 120" ?

Hi guys,

New to this forum, hope this 5700 is still active...

Obot, I have seen the ae700 many times, and I owned the 5700, I think it really depends on what material you are going to watch most.

To me, I think 576 Pal DVD is best on the 5700 PJ, and I only watch DVD on the PJ, nothing else, never bother with the HDTV crap, here in Australia not many broadcast programs i actually do enjoy, at least not worth the big screen.

The 5700 to me is best representing 'film-like' cinema feel, the colour is spot-on out of the box, only minor tweak is required to get the most out of this PJ.

I like the ae700 too, because it is a light cannon, brighter than the 5700, it delivers extreme vibrant colour, some people do like it's vibrant colour, but to me it is oversaturated, it also has that 'digital' look regardless of sources or media, i believe it's the nature of LCD.

I won't say which one is better because I do like both of them, if DVD is not my major viewing material, I might go with the ae700, but i really really need that 'cinema' feel, so that i develop my appetite for the popcorn.

In summary, the 5700 is closer to 'cinema' experience than the ae700 in terms of colour accuracy and it's analog look, whereas the ae700 produces a more 'digital' feel.

In case you think ae700 is better than the 5700, before you shell out your hard earned cash, audition the Sanyo's PLV-Z3 as well, this Sanyo is the closest competitor to the ae700, many will choose the Z3 over the ae700 because it doesn't have the infamous vertical banding issue that plague the ae700, and the Z3 has better contrast ratio (better black) than the ae700.

Despite 5700 has the lowest resolution, I still choose my 5700 over any PJ mentioned here for DVD at all times!!

K

Brian

The major difference is you are trading off 1/3 brighter for half the contrast, but same great menus, precalibration, Faroudja. The SP5700 is several TI chips generations ago. If we had a SP5710 out now - I would say absolutely jump on it. If they offered you a SP7210 - then I would say get off line, drive to their repair depot in Kentucky and get that off their hands before they change their mind!

If you were running a too large screen on the SP4805 and watching more HD than you thought - the SP5700 is a better fit.

Still they are upgrading you from a $1K (was $1.5K) to a $3K (was $5K) box - cannot complain about that - even on the used market you are probably way ahead on that deal. I have some very happy SP5700 customers that I will probably not hear from for years.

But why the exchange - did they run out of SP4805 parts? Who knows - maybe it is cheaper to give away a new projector than fix an old one!

Somebody in the H31 forum got the same repair depot deal on a H57 and they are loving the upgrade - but then they are both DarkChip2. The SP5700 is the older DarkChip1 HD2 (not even +). Well technically not even the HD chip - but same process. TI code names are a mess!

Yes the 7210 is at the top of my "things I REALLY need but can't afford" list. I'm sure the 5700 is nearing the end of its life cycle and they are happy to get a few more out the door. Basically, I could send in the 4805 for a fix, and hope it does not come back with any other of the common issues. Then keep it until bulb replacement time to make a decision....OR switch to the 5700 now for the price of a bulb....Still studying up...thanks for the input as always.

Any other 5700 users here who have seen or compared it to a 4805?

My reds are over saturated when watching 480i signals. What adjustments have you made for this? Also, do you guys have TruLife enabled or disabled and what chroma settings do you like best?

do you prefer 1080I or 720P signals? I have disabled 480P since 480i looked so much better and 480P doesn't hold a candle to 720P or 1080i.

Earlier last year I compared the 5700 to both the 4800 (not 4805) and the 7200. I felt the 5700 did a better job in darker parts of a film (night scenes, shadows). It showed more detail. The 5700 seemed a bit brighter.

The 7200 has higher resolution but from my seating distance (14 feet) I could nto tell the difference. Its only when I got closer (less that 10 feet) was there a noticeable difference in resolution. Because of the $2,800 price difference (between the 5700 and 7200) I chose the former and have been a satisfied owner for over a year and a half.

I assume the 4805 does show some improvements over the 4800 so it would be a bit closer to the 5700. What is your price difference (4805 vs 5700)?

John

Brian I Am

I think this is a no brainer economic decision. For the price of a lamp you get to upgrade to a 3x more expensive projector. So you go for it - decide you hate the SP5700. So you unload it nearly new AVS ads for 50% off MSRP - then go buy a new SP4805 - and still profiting enough to reimburse yourself for the upgrade fee you were charged. In fact you have a ready customer if it does not work - someone else just posted "tell me what $1500 projector will work on 133" screen".

Really the only loss here is contrast - but your setup really demands the resolution and brightness.

Matt
The red color on the SP5700/SP7200 are indeed more saturated a bit than HD spec - the SP4805 is more DVD spec. But with 480i you should be picking up the DVD spec color.

So I think you speak not of color hue - but of video decoding. All the Infocus projectors 480i have about a 5-10% red push if you view with the red filter - just knock down the color saturation control a notch trading off blues for reds.

The open service menu on the SP7205 had access to the color decoder - but it did not work on 480i only 720P. Cannot recall if it is there on SP5700 - it is next to the blue only mode if it is.

how do you knock down the color saturation? I saw "red gain" and "red Offset" and the default is at 50 for both. I turned "red gain" down to 40 and it made a difference. Is this what you are talking about. What is the difference in "Gain" and "Offset"?

Also, will these adjustments be close enough with a 480i and 720p decoding to keep the same presets for both?

What whould be Chroma levels be with the "TruLife"? By default they are 0, 0, 50. I have mine at 50, 0, 50 now.

Thanks.

"Red Gain" is like the contrast control for red only. It mostly affects the peak levels for red.

"Red Offset" is like the brightness control for red only. It mostly affects the dark reds or black level for red.

Both controls interact with each other a bit.

Mojo

Which menu are you in ? Advanced color those are greyscale controls - so you just changed white to cyan if you cut red. These are not primary color adjustments - they adjust the primary mixture for white!

color saturation is on your basic adjustment menu along with tint (hue)

Actually the menu I was thinking of was your service/ADC menu - that just better aligns your input to your source voltages. i.e. YPbPr adjustments. But it was broken for me on 480i - only 720P worked - and I cannot recall if it is exposed on SP5700!

What are the specific names of the TruLife chroma controls? I though trulife only had chroma detail adjustment - lost me on that one! If you can't tell - I sold off my SP5700 demo over a year ago!

Which menu are you in ? Advanced color those are greyscale controls - so you just changed white to cyan if you cut red. These are not primary color adjustments - they adjust the primary mixture for white!

color saturation is on your basic adjustment menu along with tint (hue)

Actually the menu I was thinking of was your service/ADC menu - that just better aligns your input to your source voltages. i.e. YPbPr adjustments. But it was broken for me on 480i - only 720P worked - and I cannot recall if it is exposed on SP5700!

What are the specific names of the TruLife chroma controls? I though trulife only had chroma detail adjustment - lost me on that one! If you can't tell - I sold off my SP5700 demo over a year ago!


TrueLife Settings:

Chroma Detail: Default= 0 My setting =50
Luma Detail: Default = 0 My setting = 0
Chroma Delay: Default = 50 My setting = 50

As for the "Phase" setting anyone know where this should be at or what you are looking for?

What is the best way to fine tune or calibrate these projectors?

For those Chroma patterns you want to use the Chroma Delay pattern in AVIA. You can see when the edges of color are pushed to hard - which 50 probably is. I usually do no more than 20. Best look at Yellow/Red transitions.

I just got my HTPC last week and I´m getting powerstrip tomorrow. What settings do I use with powerstrip... do I use the same for DVD playback and for windows surfing, I ask because I thought that maybe one setting should be used for windows and the "native" setting on the projector, and another one for DVD and then the 16:9 should be used, am I completely wrong?

Is it possible to have two settings memorized with powerstrip, because I tend to use the LCD screen with VGA for web surfing, and the projector with DVI for watching movies.. so is it possible to either have a setting for each memorized and just change with the click of a mouse, or better still would be to have one resolution for DVI and another for VGA??

Just leave your computer in XGA (1024x768). Then select widescreen on the projector for surfing - native for DVD. TheaterTek will display the video overlay on the secondary monitor OK.

You can indeed add a powerstrip macro that changes resolutions on the fly when it loads your DVD software. But I have found switching primary monitors and resolutions over DVI is usually not troublefree (WAF) and you usually get into a reboot.

If you want to use 48Hz then you might want to go that trouble - but I have not had any luck with power strip switching refresh rate back/forth within the same resolution. If your LCD can take 48Hz then just use that all the time.

Windows multimonitor setup can indeed have a different resolution for each monitor - that is generally not a problem. You probably want to do that if your LCD is a different native screen.

Based on replies to other threads the consensus seems to indicate that I should use the upscaling ability of the 5700 as opposed to most DVD players. Right now I am in the market for a new DVD player (my old Toshiba proved too sensitive to disk smudges, imperfections, etc. that result in freeze-ups, etc). What is the ideal player for the Infocus that will utilize the projectors ability to upscale the image or will going through DVI result in something better? Any recommendations welcome.

John

I just spoke to the dealer who sold me the Infocus 5700 and he recommended the Marantz DV4500. Anyone experience this player with the 5700?

John

I was using an Arcam DV79 player with the SP5700 and the picture was phenomenal.

My first post...

I am a proud owner of the 5700 and live in Sydney.

Over two months and 200+ hours... and still at the "jaw-dropping" stage...

I'm upgrading my DVD player which has a DVI out. Its the Oppo Digital v971...

The good thing about it is also plays DivX... Just trying to get the M1-to-HDMI adapter... But the thing is that I had an HDMI cable ran through my ceiling, so I will also have to get an HDMI-to-DVI adapter....

I should be getting it by next week, and for only $280AUD... Also looking into building my HTPC, but that will have to wait for now...

Will let you know how I go with this DVD Player... it also has upscaling, and should be interesting against the 576p natural resolution of the 5700...

I have read that other 5700 owners have had premature lamp deaths. Has anyone had luck getting Infocus to compensate them somehow? Mine just blew tonight with only about 750 hours on it. Let me tell you, the sound of a lamp blowing can scare the crap out of you.

Anyway, I will call Infocus next week to see if they are willing to replace the lamp for free or at some sort of discount. It just shouldn't blow with so few hours. Especially since I use low lamp mode.

On a side note, any 5700 owners out there ever turn on their projector only to find the menu is upside down? Happened to me last week. I had to go back into the menu and select the ceiling check box. Wierd huh...

The problem in this industry (this has nothing to do with Infocus) is that ANSI lamp life specifications are not a guarantee or a warranty. In fact, ANSI is not even a "life" specification - rather it is an average hour at which lamps which survived the test achieved 50% of their originally measured brightness.

That means that per the ANSI standard - some of the lamps will not live that long, some of the lamps will get dimmer before that, and some of the lamps will get dimmer after that.

The only lamp warranty that came with the projector was that the lamp is guaranteed for 90d or 500h (whichever comes FIRST).

If you had a good dealer and were over 90d but under 500 hours - you might be succesful in a good faith replacement - but there was never a guarantee of that. None of my SP5700 customers have had any problems at all - lamp or projector. Which is as much anecdotal evidence as hearing that someones lamp popped off early.

So sad to say - all the ANSI lamp specification really means is that - sometimes you get a break - and sometimes your lamp breaks.


Infocus recently just added an extended lamp warranty for one year of unlimited replacements for $89 which is not bad considering the price of lamps. Of course in doing so it is a tacit acknowledgement that the ANSI lamp spec is not worth much more than the paper it is written on.

I just picked up a 4805 yesterday for $900 with screen. Now I see a 5700 with screen for $1500...my question...should I take the 5700. I'm new to the pj scene (that's why I'm asking). Seems like a good idea, but since the 5700 seems to be about a year older, I'm not sure if I should be considering something other than just resolution here!

You saw the SP5000 which is a 720P LCD. The SP5700 is twice that price. Stick with the SP4805 - you will not want to trade off the contrast once you have it. Just stick to the seating distance rule of 2x screen width and you will be happy and even blown away with HD sources.

You saw the SP5000 which is a 720P DLP. The SP5700 is twice that price. Stick with the SP4805 - you will not want to trade off the contrast once you have it. Just stick to the seating distance rule of 2x screen width and you will be happy and even blown away with HD sources.

FYI: the 5000 is LCD.

No, he is talking about the 5700. It is a refurb, but a 5700 plus a screen for 1500$ is quite a deal. The site in question likely has some kind of deal with Infocus where they unload refurbished units for cheap, as this is not the first time a similar deal with refurbished Infocus products has surfaced.

To the earlier poster, if you can live with a refurb and longer throw, the extra resolution, lumens, and inputs/features make the upgrade quite significant.

fixed my typo....

I would chose a SP5700 over a SP5000 at the same price for sure.

I would stay away from refurbs unless you can buy the extended warranty from Infocus - which adds some $$$.

Buy it before you sell the SP4805 - make up your own mind - then sell one later. The SP5700 is older model that was good in it's day - it is not DarkChip2 and the contrast is nowhere near as good are the main disadvantages. Mainly as I had advised earlier in the thread to a previous upgrader - if you need the bigger screen it makes sense as it is brighter with more resolution.

Also be aware that the SP5700 throws are different depending on manufactur date and S/N. The install spreadsheet contains the info - but it is a much longer throw than the SP4805.


At any rate - join the AVS club and you can post all you want to the Deals forum. It is a forbidden topic in this forum (pricing or dealers)

I've had a 5700 for about 18 months and been very pleased with it. I use it mostly for DVD's. With the start of the football season I decided to set up my system by running an RCA cable from the video output of my VCR (my cable service is connected to my VCR with coaxial output to a TV and the video output to the 5700).

I was quite surprised by the quality of the projected image. When I started to project the game the following week the image was clear but in black and white, not color. The cable in question is about a 22 foot run from the video output of the VCR . Any ideas why I am losing color?

John

You must be using the Yellow Composite VCR cable in the Green Component projector jack - as that will get you a sharp B&W picture. Either that or the signal is degraded so badly by the VCR connection in/out mess that the color burst is getting degraded badly so it appears B&W. Does color restore if you plug into the back of the cable box?

Lose the VCR - don't you have Component HD cable boxes yet? You will be missing out on some eyecandy otherwise!

Thanks for the response. You were exactly right. With the projector already ceiling mounted (upside down) I thought I placed the cable in the right input but I indeed put it in the green component input. Everything is working fine now and the picture is surprisingly good

At present I do not have a cable box and have no intention of getting one from my cable TV service, Cablevision, which, by the way gives awful service. I am waiting for Verizon who are now providing figer optic internet and phone service and plan to offer video services by the end of the year. Then it is bye-bye to Cablevision. At that time I hope to have a box with component outputs for HDTV.

John

Maybe ComCast will buy them out - they are the best of all the local cable owners we have had out here. I gave up DirecTV when I moved into a hole with southern trees - with no choice but it was well worth it. Their HD PVR box is quite good - soon to be offering Tivo software. Only problem is I have become elitist and will only save an HD movie - and get frustrated when it is not offered! Terminal with Tom Hanks for example....

Hi all,


Just received my 5700. This being the 2nd projector i've owned, i'm pretty happy with it. My first projector was the lp350.

I did demo a 4805 but found that i needed a projector with a longer throw. In comparison to the 5700, i found that the screen door is more apparent with the 4805. I sit around 1.25x screen width away. For both projectors, i found that ever so slightly blurring the image makes it go away while still maintaining a sharp picture.

the 4805 did have brighter colors and had better contrast with respect to lighter scenes. For example, i could see more snow detail in the snow battle of Empire Strikes Back. However, i did notice more detail in the 5700 with regard to darker scenes, like the battle with the Balrog (SP?) in Lord of the Rings: FOTR.

I'm guessing the reason for both of these differences is because the 5700 is brighter than the 4805.

I do have a question that i hope some of you still reading this thread can answer.

I notice that shots where the character is really close to camera(where only their faces are framed) are really sharp while shots where the people are farther away from camera(when their total hight is 1/3 of the highth of the screen) are a bit blurry.

I only watch NTSC dvds through s-video on this projector and know the 5700 is native to PAL resolution.

Is it the scaling for NTSC the reason for the slight blurriness? Or is this something no one else notices on their unit and mine is defective?

and how much improvement can I expect from calibrating it with Avia?

Thanks!

Jeff

480 (or 240) does not goes into 576 very well - so there will be a vertical softening. But I bit you are just seeing cinematic techniques you never saw on the tiny TV before - like depth of field.

There's definitely more information that i'm noticing compared to my old lp350. No doubt about it.

But when the mid ground or back ground is where the focus should be, i'm finding it a bit blurry.

If i'm understanding your response correctly, your talking about parts of the frame that's supposed to be blurry. For instance, when camera is focused on a close up face and the characters behind him/her are defocused. That part is fine. The close up face looks great. But when there is no foreground and the focus should be in the mid ground, where the actors are 1/3 to 1/2 the highth of the screen, that's when they are a little blurry.

Have you noticed the blurriness in that kind of situation?

It's something i never noticed on my lp350 which i think has more resolution.


Jeff

Quick follow up post to my earlier post about my lamp rupture. I contacted Infocus and because the projector was still under the 2 year warranty, I decided to send it in. I didn't want to spend $500+ on a new lamp if the projector had a problem which caused the premature rupture (No comments please :)

Anyway, I sent it in. They turned it around in 2 biz days and it is on its way back to me. They did the following work:

"replaced lamp and color wheel clip duplicated; reset factory defaults and lamp hrs.; upgraded software; performed upgrades on checklist; final test done after 1 hr. burn-in"

The key here is that they replaced the lamp for me. (I am not sure what the color wheel clip is...anyone know?)

As long as it runs once I get the package Monday, I will be one happy camper. Fingers are crossed for no more premature ruptures.....

Infocus seems to be pretty good in terms of service and I am now obsessing over whether to get the extended warranty for two additional years (around $300). Decisions. Decisions.

John

If you do not have the upgrade fever and plan to keep it - I would! Cheap insurance compared to the price of repairs.

Kraz, here in Australia the street price of the 5700 is double that of the 4805, the 5700 case looks better and its apprently a brighter Pj with higher resolution.

I had the 4805 but sold it with my house, the only complaint I had was some noise during dead quiet scenes. The picture to my old eyes was tops sitting back over 4M (about 14' from 95" screen.

I can't see paying so much more for the 5700 is worth it. Is that your view?.

PAL countries are different - depends if you want to view your native resolution or not.

The MSRP is triple in the US. I honestly have not sold any since the SP4805 came out but did when it was only the SP4800 to compete with - which shows how much better the SP4805 is than the SP4800. In the US people either are OK with 480P for their DVD or want 720P for their HD. The middle 576P gets squeezed out, unfairly IMPO. As one AVSer messaged me the other day - he could not believe how much better the SP5700 looked than the Panny AE700 in the store with HD - and he had no preconception what the resolution or technology diff was (In fact he thought he was watching the SP5000 LCD!). I told him feel free to post that info as long as he had his flame suit on!

More resolution and brightness means a 20% wider screen - I will not do an 8' SP4805 but will a SP5700. The SP5700 is also much longer throw. So it really comes down to your install needs. Likewise you can get away with a 10' wide screen with the SP7210 if you have another $4K to spend, yet I would not do that with the SP5700. And for yet another $8K - now we can talk a 14' screen with SP777.

So yes the price gaps geometrically - but there is a reason each of these levels exist - somebody thinks it is worth it!

I decided to make the plunge to get HD. So, I have the D* HD TIVO being installed this weekend (HR10-250). I was curious if any other IF5700 owners had this box and what they thought about the picture and how they set it up to work best with the 5700.

Thanks

At just under 1000 hours on my 5700, I noticed what looks like a small dust blob. However, I thought the light engine was sealed on these units so I'm not sure.

It looks like a purplish semi-circle, about 4-5 inches, showing up on the left side of the screen, approximately 1/3 up from the bottom. This happens on DVD and cable inputs, at all scan rates.

Anyone have any ideas?

Im thinking about getting the 5700 for a dedicated home theater room that we are installin in a new house. The projector would be mounted around 20' from the screen but can be closer. I was thinking a 110" diagonal screen, probbably the Stewart greyhawk becuase the firehawk has too much gain according to the Calculator at projector central.

One of my friends was telling me that i should really consider either RP or LCD or plasma instead because the image quality is so much better with any of those formats and that the only thing projectors are good for is a large image. The reason that worried me was because the only projector i had seen in use was a 30k runco and the 5700 probbably isint going to give me that kind of quality. What I'm asking is what kind of quality can i expect out of this thing. Is it going to be "HDTV" quality i really dont want to put a 7k video system in to find out that it sucks!

I have been reading the forums but i really havent got hours to sit and read back posts becuse the house isint even started on drywall and i am forced to move in next WEEKEND! so i need to get this HT room done like, tomorrow. ideally, last week. Thanks for any help. This is such a stressfull thing to decide on!

Your friend is right for family rooms - movie screens are not the best choice. But he is an idiot when it comes to designing dedicated home theater rooms!

For once PJC got something right - a dimmer greyscreen is desired.

As long as you are 13'-14' away you will not notice the difference between a 576P or 720P - but with one of those you could be 10'-11' away.

I would not worry too much about immediate purchase if you do not have drywall. If you cannot use it - then you just get to watch the box depreciate - and that is no fun.

Mit07

Blobs are most noticeable on a black screen as greyish circles - not sure what else it could be though.

Im more worried about what im going to get at now because the mounting distance is so different for every projector. Im now consideirng the IF 7205 projector instead of the 5700 just because of the higher res picture. Will have to see if the boss agrees on the 2k price increase though ;)

I'll also have to go setup a mock screen tomorrow and see if 110 inch is too big for the seating distance. Thanks for the help. Im still not sure what to do about the whole situation but i suppose it will work itself out. If it means saving 3 or 4 grand we might have to end up going with a smaller Egh! 60" or so RP or plasma instead of the FP.

If it means saving 3 or 4 grand we might have to end up going with a smaller Egh! 60" or so RP or plasma instead of the FP

I have no regrets about my 5700 paired with a 92" Carada screen. The WOW factor hasn't diminished after 2 years. I just had got an HDTIVO set up and I think it looks great. Football has never looked better.

If you have a fully light controlled room and want a movie theater experience, you can't beat a pj. To save a little money, you may consider a Carada screen. I got mine for half the price of a Stewart screen and I love it.

Mit07

Blobs are most noticeable on a black screen as greyish circles - not sure what else it could be though.


KRAS, thanks for the note. The "blob" on my screen is not visible on a black or grey screen. For instance, if I watch a 4:3 program, the "blob" is not visible on the black or grey side bar. However, on 16:9 programming it shows up along the left side of the screen, approximatly 1/3 up from the bottom. The "blob" is blusih/purplish in color. It is approximately 5-6 inches in a semi-circle. And - it vibrates or shakes! It is not static.

Do you think it could be something on the color wheel?

I would assume it is covered under the 2 year warranty. Don't let anyone tell you that extended warranties are never a good idea.

The SP5700 is one if the few long throw projectors, which is great when you want it at the back of the room.

Don't discount the plasmer simulator though - I run the SP7210 demo on a 60" silverstar.

That would be the first I ever heard of the color wheel decolorizing. I have heard of LCD color filters depolarizing though. Maybe your DMD has come loose?

Send it in! I suggest taking a photo closeup to email them (and us!)

Maybe you will get lucky and it will take three weeks to repair if they are out of parts - might they offer a SP7210 for a very low upgrade fee!

Extra lamps and extended warranties - I assure you are something an Infocus dealer does not making a living on (unlike CircuitShack sales) - Infocus offers them for customer service. So if you want to keep it - buy the extra warranties after it gets back. Much Much cheaper than a projector upgrade or repair. But if you need the projector broke excuse for the CFO - now is the best time to invoke that upgrade clause!

After my bulb ruptured at 700 hours, I sent the pj in and Infocus ran diagnostics and replaced the bulb for free (which they didn't have to do. It was a very good experience with there tech support). Since my pj warranty expires soon, I decided to buy the extended 2-year warranty for $300. I don't plan to replace the pj in that time and since it hasn't been problem free, I think its worth it.

Back to an earlier question I asked - Any HDTIVO and 5700 owners out there? I was wondering if anyone saw a picture quality increase by using HDMI instead of component. Since my run is 30ft, I wanted to get some opinions before splurging on the HDMI cable.

Thanks

Depends on the settop box - normally the digital outs have been FCC mandated and are worse quality than the analog outs - even at HD. I would ask in the settop box fora for someone else that has compared. My cable box suffers that stupidity. Usually 480i is best for SD - then 720P for HD - but always component!

I finally got around to purchasing the extended warranty for my 5700. There web site had a small discount going but when I called up directly I got the two year extended warranty for half price? When I said that this sounds almost too good to be true the tech person said they are experimenting with lower prices. I assume they are doing this to get more people to sign up. I did.

John

PS-I have had no problems whatsoever with my unit (about 20 months usage)

Had not heard that yet - last I heard was the rep telling me that lamp prices went up and not down (they grandfathered my backorder). I did have some people go off warranty - half price would have been a keeper!

Has anyone experienced a kind of tearing on their displays. Some scenes in Saving Private Ryan look like the flames are 'ghosting' or tearing across the entire screen in a big streak. I get the same thing on Green Day's Bullet in a Bible concert DVD where some of the lighting goes weird. Am I the only one? Is this a problem with the 5700 or the sources?

Do you run HTPC? It takes a lot of work to run a tearing free HTPC.

If you are using a regular DVD source try widescreen vs. native aspect - I think I saw tearing when one or the other was used on the SP72xx.

tearing means you are not exactly perfectly matched up on sync rates.

So I'm considering upgrading my 5700 to a 720p model... at the very least something that does 576p (I am in the USA but I watch a lot of PAL discs). Black level is my main concern, and I have to admit, I have become disenchanted with the 5700's black performance. A friend of mine has a cheap (under a grand) 800x600 Optoma and that thing has the deepest blacks I have ever seen - it even beats the 5700 WITH an ND filter!

Anyone have any suggestions for something under 3 grand?

If I send my 5700 back to Infocus for some minor repairs it needs, and they offer to upgrade me to a 7205, does THAT unit have appreciably better blacks than the 5700?

I just purchased this projector after testing 9 differnet projectors. It is awesome. I was just wondering.
I was testing the projector with different inputs to see if there is any quality changes. When I plugged the VGA into the back of my DVD player using a DVI adapter I do not get a signal on the projector?

Any body know why?

The DVD player LG DV7832NXC does not have a switch to turn the DVI output on and off so I can only assume that it is outputting a DVI signal.

Thanks

Andreas

Do you run HTPC? It takes a lot of work to run a tearing free HTPC.

If you are using a regular DVD source try widescreen vs. native aspect - I think I saw tearing when one or the other was used on the SP72xx.

tearing means you are not exactly perfectly matched up on sync rates.


Oops! I missed this one. Thanks for the response Krasmuzik.

My source is a Pio 563a over component. I only use the 16:9 option and never use Native as it is too small on my screen. I love my 5700 but it has gotten very loud (fans mostly) and the color wheel grinds like mad when it is booting up and takes a while to sync up. Maybe the tearing is just another sign that my 2 year old projector with 2000 hours on it is dying. :(

Are you out of warranty yet? See if you can get a nozzle vac up in there - or send it to Infocus with a noisy fan complaint. Maybe it is just sighing that it will be replaced with a $2K projector with a nicer case! (IN74EX)

Are you out of warranty yet? See if you can get a nozzle vac up in there - or send it to Infocus with a noisy fan complaint. Maybe it is just sighing that it will be replaced with a $2K projector with a nicer case! (IN74EX)

I think I'm out of warranty as I purchased my 5700 in the early fall of 2003 though I had warranty work for loud fans and a premature blown bulb after a few months of operating.

I've used one of those pressurized air cans and a vaccuum nozzle to clean it up but no joy on the noise front. Would it be useful to take the lamp out and try the cleaning again internally?

Cannot hurt. Stay away from compressed air - just use the nozzle vacs. On the SP4805 I also took a QTip (distilled water and rubbing alcohol) to the blades to clean off the gunk.

Cannot hurt. Stay away from compressed air - just use the nozzle vacs. On the SP4805 I also took a QTip (distilled water and rubbing alcohol) to the blades to clean off the gunk.


Just curious about what is wrong with compressed air?

compressed air spits....you want to suck not blow

Reading the post on compressed air, etc. I was wondering if I should be doing any kind of regular maintenance? There doesn't seem to be anything in the manual on this. My ownership is approaching 2 years and I have had no problems whatsoever with my 5700.

John

I have a question for my fellow 5700 owners. I have enjoyed the picture this projector has given me for over 2 years and I use almost exclusively a DVD source. I have never fed it an HD source but I'm starting to consider getting cable HD. What do people think about the 5700 for an HD source? I've seen some pretty inexpensive 720p projectors and was wondering if an upgrade was desirable. I was also wondering about the newer upconverting DVD players. The 5700 has onboard Faroudja processing but are the newer chips in upconverting players getting superior to what I can get from my 5700? Just wondering.

upconverting players are a tradeoff - you get pure digital signal - but they are rarely better than what the projector does already - even when they have Faroudja they lack the TrueLife controls. Just because it is digital means it is easier to muck up the signal!

Get the HD you will be amazed at the difference - especially on DiscoveryHD etc.

Outlier2,

I got HD about 6 months ago and have been amazed at the picture via the 5700 and our 92" screen. When I demo'd projectors, I saw not noticable HD difference between the 5700 and more expensive 720P projectors. Sporting events look amazing and you will get a new appreciation for nature TV when you see it in HD.

A DirecTV HDTivo feeds our 5700. OTA signals look slightly better than DirecTV signals IMO. All signals are fed via component so I can't speak about HDMI but I am in no hurry to buy digital video cable since analog looks so good.

Get HD, you won't regret it.

Outlier2,

I got HD about 6 months ago and have been amazed at the picture via the 5700 and our 92" screen. When I demo'd projectors, I saw not noticable HD difference between the 5700 and more expensive 720P projectors. Sporting events look amazing and you will get a new appreciation for nature TV when you see it in HD.

A DirecTV HDTivo feeds our 5700. OTA signals look slightly better than DirecTV signals IMO. All signals are fed via component so I can't speak about HDMI but I am in no hurry to buy digital video cable since analog looks so good.

Get HD, you won't regret it.

Thanks ATDahl! That's exactly what I needed to hear.

Outlier

I've had my 5700 in my HT for 6 months now. All I can say is "It's Awesome" especially when teamed with a HD source. I have HD Cable(Mediacom) OTA HD attanea in attic and regular CAble. The HD is awesome, all my friends jaws just drop when they see it on HD. All major sporting events etc. my house is "the Place to be".

I looked at a lot of FP before choosing teh 5700, and like my Plasma (an ED Samsung) I didn't feel the step up to "true" HD projector was worth the cost difference. Yes the picture on true HD might be a smidgen better, not very much, so when this one dies, years down the road, I'll probably look at a HD then maybe not.

I'm extremely pleased with my 5700 and have no buyers remorse.

Bob
www.customjigsandspins.com

I am interested in others experience of lamplife. Had my 5700 for 15 months now, and the lamp just exploded :eek: (but stayed behind the glass screen thankfully) at 1,800 hours on the timer. It had been looking very dim for a couple of weeks, so I thought something was up.

Since I've used it in low power mode, this is a bit unexpected!

My previous projector (Sanyo LCD) the bulbs just slowly slowly faded away - when feeling broke I ran one way past its 2,000 hour rated life and only had to put up with a rather dim screen.

The new lamp seems brighter than the original when new (compared with the LCD screen I also use).

As long as it doesn't keep using lamps at this rate it is a great projector, and the picture using DVI-D from my HTPC is great. :rolleyes:, while not strictly HD, it can deliver much better than DVD quality with an HD source.

I just purchased a refurb 5700 and really like what this pj does well. One odd thing however. When I change channels ( I use a DVD recorder to tune tv stations) the unit appears to go through a re-sync each time the channel is changed. Is there a setting on the pj which can remedy this? Also, when I attempt to use the high power mode, a get a persistent message in the lower left corner which instructs me to change the bulb. The counter indicates that I have very few hours on the lamp.

Thanks

My SP5700 arrives in a couple days. I have a couple questions:
1. What is the best way for me to watch DVDs?
I use a yamaha RXV2400 reciever. It takes Svideo or com[ponant and upsacales/changes it all to RGB out. Currently I use my XBOX360 with RGB out and run it through my reciever- it then goes rgb to the projector. Is this best? Or am I not taking advantage of the farawhatever processor?

2. Hi-def TV. I currently has Dircet tv. Do I need to pay more nad buy a different box?

3. I've heard my local TV has high def. Do I need to buy a special antenna to recieve this? And Should I run this through my Svideo out on my VCR? Or do I ned a tuner box?

My SP5700 arrives in a couple days. I have a couple questions:
1. What is the best way for me to watch DVDs?
I use a yamaha RXV2400 reciever. It takes Svideo or com[ponant and upsacales/changes it all to RGB out. Currently I use my XBOX360 with RGB out and run it through my reciever- it then goes rgb to the projector. Is this best? Or am I not taking advantage of the farawhatever processor?

2. Hi-def TV. I currently has Dircet tv. Do I need to pay more nad buy a different box?

3. I've heard my local TV has high def. Do I need to buy a special antenna to recieve this? And Should I run this through my Svideo out on my VCR? Or do I ned a tuner box?


It depends on your needs. If switching is a big deal to you then run it through your receiver. Most people here use component direct from the source to the projector-- fewer connections to cause problems. You have to switch manually though between devices. If you have a lot of sources, I'd strongly consider switching at the receiver.

For an Xbox or any cheaper DVD player I would run it out at 480i NOT 480p. 480i means your PJ which has excellent deinterlacing and scaling is doing the work. If you send it 480p you are betting that your $200 DVD player has a better processing than your PJ.

I can't answer your HD questions though.

It depends on your needs. If switching is a big deal to you then run it through your receiver. Most people here use component direct from the source to the projector-- fewer connections to cause problems. You have to switch manually though between devices. If you have a lot of sources, I'd strongly consider switching at the receiver.

For an Xbox or any cheaper DVD player I would run it out at 480i NOT 480p. 480i means your PJ which has excellent deinterlacing and scaling is doing the work. If you send it 480p you are betting that your $200 DVD player has a better processing than your PJ.

I can't answer your HD questions though.


Thanks,

I'll have to find out if it's possible to scale down my XBOX360 to 480i... It has native 720P for the games.

So will my projector see a 480i signal comming from an RGB cable? Then upscale it? Or does it only upscale from like an s-video jack?

I've been bitten by the upgrade bug. I have a mint condition 5700 with 445 hours that I am selling. PM me if you want to talk.

I've been informed that my XBOX360 can not be downscaled to 480i from the menu choices.. However, it does have the ability to go S-vid or componant out. Would I get a better picture by utalizing a lower def output line and letting the faradthing upscale it?

Since the native rate of the XOBX360 is 720P - I would send component HDTV out and let the projector downscale it direct to 576P. You would lose to much to downscale then upscale with 480P - and 1080i would be first downscaled to 540P then 576P.

Faroudja does not like high contrast high motion hi resolution edges (i.e gaming) as much as it likes video and film - so stick with the native progressive - no sense going interlaced if you can avoid it.

Since the native rate of the XOBX360 is 720P - I would send component HDTV out and let the projector downscale it direct to 576P. You would lose to much to downscale then upscale with 480P - and 1080i would be first downscaled to 540P then 576P.

Faroudja does not like high contrast high motion hi resolution edges (i.e gaming) as much as it likes video and film - so stick with the native progressive - no sense going interlaced if you can avoid it.


Thank you. :cool:

KRAS, thanks for the note. The "blob" on my screen is not visible on a black or grey screen. For instance, if I watch a 4:3 program, the "blob" is not visible on the black or grey side bar. However, on 16:9 programming it shows up along the left side of the screen, approximatly 1/3 up from the bottom. The "blob" is blusih/purplish in color. It is approximately 5-6 inches in a semi-circle. And - it vibrates or shakes! It is not static.

Do you think it could be something on the color wheel?

I would assume it is covered under the 2 year warranty. Don't let anyone tell you that extended warranties are never a good idea.
MIT - did you ever get this problem resolved???? I seem to be experiencing the exact same problem in the exact same area... the only difference with my 5700 is - the "blob" seems to be static.

Yes. The problem went away by itself after about 10 hours of viewing time. I assume it was some type of dust in the optical path that went away.

Thanks -- I guess I'll wait and see.

I had a similar purple "blob" on my screen. Only, mine looked like a piece of lint. I was going to ship it back under warranty, but it was just before the holidays and I didn't want to be without it with company over.

I took the covers off, pulled out the bulb (only do while completely cool) and sprayed a can of keyboard cleaner (compressed air) on the color wheel to get it to rotate. Sure enough, I saw the piece of lint and blew it off.....problem solved!

Hey everyone,

Not sure if there are many 5700 still active around here, took a bit of digging to find this thread. Have loved my 5700 since I bought it 2 years ago, think I have about 1400 hours on it.

The reason I am posting is I was at the local BB the other day, and I saw the new toshiba HD DVD player, and wanted to find out if any 5700 owners have picked one up. I noticed the player only has HDMI output, not dvi, or whatever it is on the 5700. (running the dvi to m1 cable for my hd settop box). Just wanted to get some impressions if anyone has bought this or any other hd dvd player.

Thanks
Jeff in Nashville

I am very interested....let me know how it works out. Does the HD DVD player have component video outputs? Cost?

Hey fellow 5700 owners. Mit07 directed me to this thread regarding rainbows and artifacts on the display.

I discovered mine were due to cracks in the UV filter (square glass plate) that sits in front of the lamp (part of the actual lamp assembly). As discussed in this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=674726 with pictures of the cracks.

Since I have 1000ish hours left on my bulb I was wondering if anyone had an old bulb with an intact UV filter they would be willing to sell to me? It would be greatly appreciated.

my projector doesnt seem to start.....its a screenplay 5700, worked amazingly, crystal clear, easy to use...but when recently updating the graphics driver on my computer (ati radeon xsomethinghundred) the monitor shifted to the no signal screen and stopped responding to all the buttons on the top panel (power, resize, source..etc.). i unplugged it and then repluged it. the fan will run for a second, and the power led is solid green. it will not turn on when the power button is pressed. the lamp was not too old, a couple hundred hours tops. ive removed the lamp and its the same story, put it back in....same. the manual says that there would be a red led if it found a problem. any thoughts of what happened and/or what i could do about it. it is no longer under warranty. pls help!

I would simply try an analog video signal to establish it is not the projector itself. I suspect it is no longer syncing to your DVI card - which is more than likely the fault of the driver update since that is when it happened. Possibly you are not even sending out a DVI signal anymore - check your driver - what does it say it is connected to for displays?

To answer a previous posted question. I have the Toshiba HD-D1 from Wal-Mart, listed as HD-A1 from other retailers, and it works great with the 5700. I am sending the signal out from the Toshiba via a HDMI/DVI adapter ($20) which inables me to use my DVI run to my 5700. The picture looks great. Much better than HD over Dish Networks or "over the air HD". The upconversion on SD DVD also looks much better than my Samsung upconverting player. I have the output set at 1080i for all material.

CSMAB

its not the computer driver. it wont start at all, the lamp doesnt turn on when i push the power button no matter what signal i put in there, but the led is still green, so it is recieving power. the fan starts up for a second when i put the power chord in, so some stuff is still functional. could it have crashed the software in the projector? is there anyway of resetting it without accesing any menues, or perhapes externally through the serial port?

I just took delivery of a new "refurb" 5700. I had trouble with my previous unit (actually my second one) and the service dept graciously agreed to send me a "new" unit after the repaired unit they sent arrived with defects.

The first thing I noticed about this "new" 5700 is the serial # is listed as 5700WE.

I went to put my ND filter in place and discovered that the thread size is different! The trusty old Hoya filter no longer fits.

However, I also noticed that the lens is now factory-coated with a dark material, giving it ND-like qualities.

The unit is still plenty bright, but no longer suffers from "light cannon" syndrome. So far, I'd say the ND filter isn't even needed.

Nothing else seems to be different. Anyone else know anything about the "WE" version of the 5700?

Anyone else have a 5700 with a dark-coated lens?

MOJO,
A "WE" unit just means it's a unit they stock separately for Warranty Exchange purposes. At this point in the 5700 life it's probably a refurbished unit.

There are two versions of the projection lens. The initial one is without the black internal coating and no internal threads in the focus ring for ND filters. The projection lens changed soon after the 7205 came out (same new lens). It has improved contrast due to the internal black coating and internal threads in the focus ring for 72mm filters. The zoom ratio also changed slightly with this new lens and the projector has to be back slightly further to achieve the same size image. Hope that helps.

The SP5700 lens underwent a design change after about a year on the market - I thought make it more like the SP7205 for manufacturing reasons - why they never called it the SP5705 I dunno! If I recall throw was different and threading was added - never heard about lens filtering though. At one time in my musty files I had the cutoff serial numbers - nothing worse than designing for the long throw then finding out you did not get the older lens!

I see avam beat me to it - a contrast coating like the Hoya filters themselves have ?!

Anyways the threaded lens is a 72mm so you know what Hoya to get.

Thanks guys, yes, WE obviously stands for Waranty Exchange. Duh.

I will say I do notice an improved picture and better blacks. Black level is definitely my "thing" and I still may look into a subtle ND filter for a bit better performance. The one I was using on the older model would dim things down a bit too much with this one.

Any suggestions on filters? Is anyone using any sort of color correction or just a straight ND? When I tested out the older Hoya I think I noticed it was adding a subtle green tint.

To answer a previous posted question. I have the Toshiba HD-D1 from Wal-Mart, listed as HD-A1 from other retailers, and it works great with the 5700. I am sending the signal out from the Toshiba via a HDMI/DVI adapter ($20) which inables me to use my DVI run to my 5700. The picture looks great. Much better than HD over Dish Networks or "over the air HD". The upconversion on SD DVD also looks much better than my Samsung upconverting player. I have the output set at 1080i for all material.

CSMAB

Add one more to the list. I'm successfully using the RCA HDV-5000 player, which is a clone of the HD-A1/HD-D1, with a IF 5700.

I'm using a HDMI-DVI adapter at the player end, followed by a 15ft DVI-DVI cable, with a short 6" DVI->M1 adapter cable just prior to the projector. Everything synchs up beautifully. I've never seen any problems with the HDCP handshake.

The picture is excellent, a huge upgrade over regular NTSC DVDs.

When my 5700 was new I used a Carada High-COntrast Gray screen and that worked well with any additional filter. However as my bulb aged I desired a little more light output so I switched to Carada's Brilliant White (BW) material which again worled well.

As with Mojo_LA, I swapped my old unit with old bulb out for a Warranty Exchange which came with a new bulb when the color wheel noise on my original unit suddenly became much worse.

The combination of a new bulb with the BW screen was unsatisfactory as I was now seeing rainbows everywhere, which was never a problem before. Rather than go back to my original gray screen which had become quite wrinked while in storage I added a Noya ND-2 filter, which took care of the rainbows.

I did not detect any color shift using the filter but I'm recalibrating my PJ this week-end now that I've got a new (HD DVD) source, so I'll have a btter idea then.

Hoya actually make two different 72mm ND-2 filters. I went with the extra thin one for a few bucks more, so the standard size one could be different in subtle ways.

You get a 5% boost in contrast with the Hoya HMC because of the very slight green push - the uncoated filters may be more neutral - but they would damage ANSI contrast more with back reflections (which is the apparent tweak Infocus made to their lens). That ultra thin one can be a pain to get back off if you haven't the fingernails for it!

There is no advantage to color correction lens - when new your 7500K has a bit brighter green component in it which can be offset with the FL-D filter so you can gain marketed contrast - but that gets lost when the lamp burns in. Plus Infocus always has correct secondary colors from D65 even in the 7500K setting - so Yellow and Magenta get pushed more red with a color filter and you cannot fix it. Despite achieving marketed contrast at calibration this way - when I tested it nobody prefered it over accurate colors.

Just goes to show those projectors that push colors in the name of contrast - they buyer has no clue what he is missing!

So let me see if I understand correctly... if I use an ND filter, I should make sure it's MRC (Multi Resistant Coating) or else I will get back-reflections?

The ND filter I was using was a 4x. I put that in front of my "new' 5700 with the dark-coated lens and I found it was TOO dark, so I'm thinking of getting a 2X.

Anyone out there using this setup? Any comments before I plunk down 75 bucks on a filter?

The blacks are definitely better with the new 5700 lens, but I'd like to see them a bit darker.

I have a problem with my SP5700 because it took a lightning hit to the component inputs. Only one of the two functions (480i Only) and the other is dead. The DVI input works perfectly and so I am thinking of buying a receiver that allows for DVI upconversion to remedy the situation. Is anyone running this configuration? (e.g. only running DVI to the pj and using a receiver to switch the video.) I want to make sure that this works before I take the plunge and purchase a potentially expensive receiver. I have asked similar question in the receiver forum with limited response and am hoping that fellow 5700 owners can share their experiences. Specifically, I am considering either a Denon 2807 or Pioneer VSX-82TXS.

TIA!

JL

The DVI input works perfectly and so I am thinking of buying a receiver that allows for DVI upconversion to remedy the situation. Is anyone running this configuration?

I only use DVI, but this is from a HC PC with an ATI Radeon video card, so I don't need to switch inputs as the PC does it all.

The only issue I had is that the PJ only seems to report 1280 X resolution, whereas the device is natively 1024 X. I have forced in 1024 X 576 with powerstrip though and the PJ works well running 1:1 like this.

Despite the fact that Infocus says this isn't normal, I've always noticed a bias towards green in the image. I'm on my 3rd unit and have just decided I'm going to have to accept it. I've seen a few people mention it in the past, but haven't noticed a big discussion about it.

In any case, I've usually had to reduce the green bias/gain down to about 40 in both channels to compensate. Of course, this lowers contrast.

Has anyone else come up with a solution to this? I'm wondering if some sort of color correction filter might be a better option.

Hire an ISF calibrator they will tell you if it is right and adjust your perceptions compared to store bought TV's and educate you on what is corrupting the image - or they will fix it. They have the sensors that can tell you if your adjustments are correct or not. No sense fretting about it.

Infocus is usually too close to correct that color filters do more harm than good.

need help....my 5700 works great using dvds but after usung my HD Comcast box, the picture goes out and all I see is fuzz(commonly know as the Million Ant March). Is it the box, the cable, the signal, or the projector?
Thanks,
Robert

Is anyone else getting occasional color wheel noise that sounds like a buzz saw in the distance? I see a lot of posts on the infocus X1 threads and it sounds exactly what I hear occasionally on startup. It goes away after about a minute but it is very disconcerting. My lamp is dying after 2000 hours and I don't want to spend a lot of money on a replacement lamp if the PJ is going to need a whole new color wheel assembly. I might as well get another PJ and upgrade. Any thoughts?

From your description I think I get that noise too, and my PJ is working fine.

From your description I think I get that noise too, and my PJ is working fine.

Keyser, you may want to check out the X1 threads where this is described as a pervasive and degenerating problem with the color wheels. Unfortunately, my warranty is expired. If you are still under warranty I'd recommend getting it fixed immediately.

Hello everyone, been a while since I read this forum, and I dont know if this is covered here or not. Finally hit 2000 hours on my 5700, new bulb on the way. Anyone have to opertunity to change their bulb yet? Is it terribly difficult to do, or pretty straight forward? Guess its time to get out my manual. Anyone have any advice for this job, maybe a trick the manual doesnt tell you?

troiano. I changed one bulb so far. It was about the simplest thing I ever have done with a piece of electronics. Go for it.

I have another question.

I was on the Infocus website the other day, and I saw there was a firmware upgrade for the 5700. I am running version 1.7, and the new upgrade is 2.3. I ordered the cable to do this upgrade. My question is....since I have never done any of the other upgrades, do I need to do each one individually or will going from 1.7 to the latest 2.3 give me all the other upgrades that were released?

thanks

I am looking for some help with an issue I am having with my Infocus screen play 5700. I went down into the theater to watch a movie tonight and when I went to turn on the projector nothing happened. The LED light was solid green but the projector would not fire. I actually unplugged the projector for a while all I got was a faint blinking green LED. Now the LED does not light at all. Does anybody have any suggestions? If I am looking at a new bulb, would I be better in the long run to get a new projector. I didn't think I had that many hours on the lamp but I could have been wrong. I have had the projector since April of 2004. I look forward to anyones advice and help on my issue.

Has anyone used tehe 5700 with an XBOX 360? Which cables would you recommend? I believe the 360 does 1080 over VGA but I'm not sure if the 5700 VGA connection is compliant. Any thoughts?

I took out my old bulb and it was easy.


HOWEVER: Need help. My 5700 only has like 400 hours on it and I keep getting a message that says change bulb soon. :eek: I hope the bulb has not gone south this soon. Any ideas on what I can do to fix this? Update frimware?

If so please tell me how. :o

When you replaced your lamp, did you reset the lamp hours counter back to zero? Other then that, not sure.

I got blobs on my screen. i think that they are dust blobs. is there a guide I should use to clean them?

thanks

clean the lens with a soft cloth and lens cleaner. If you use cleaner make sure the projector is off and not warm as it will bake on the cleaner.

If that doesn't fix the problem, you can open up the cases and use a aresol keyboard cleaner on the color wheel. A piece of lint got on my color wheel and showed on the screen....doing this fixed the problem.

another problem I have had......a loud wine has occured when I started up my projector 2 or 3 different times. It either goes away or I turn it off and back on and it goes away....any ideas?

another problem I have had......a loud wine has occured when I started up my projector 2 or 3 different times. It either goes away or I turn it off and back on and it goes away....any ideas?

Mine started with the occasional whine on startup, then started dropping the video signal and coming back 30 seconds later a couple of times after each switch on, then the whine became more a screech, and it would drop out for long periods, now its back with infocus for repair - suspect the bearings on the color wheel are the problem, but haven't heard back from them yet....

Over a year ago, mine started to "whine"...within weeks the bulb blew (only 700 hours). I sent the unit in and Infocus fixed the whine (color wheel was the problem I believe) and give me a new bulb free of charge. Good service in my book. Keep an eye on that whine, if you are near the end of warranty, you may want to call them and send it in. I ended up buying the extended warranty.

On a related subject, since I got my projector back from them likes to drop the video signal for a few seconds every now and then. 99% of the time it does this while navigating DVD menus. Any ideas on what may cause this?

My Sp5700 is on it's 3rd bulb.

It sounds like it's falling apart.

the fans are dying. it whines all the time. loud squeeling.. lol


I got mine way back when it first came out.

I have since upgraded to an Optoma HD7100 Dc3. I still use my sp5700 for browsing the web.

ciao


rod

I am about to purchase another projector after having many issues with my 4805 (first projector). My 4805 is still under warranty, so Infocus was going to allow me to upgrade to the 5700 for $399, since the 4805 needed service. However, I have been eyeing up a great deal for about the same money on a 5000. The higher resolution is what is really grabbing my attention.

I would very much appreciate some of you to make my decision for me, because I just cant make up my mind. PLEASE HELP ME!!!

As always, thank you all!!!

If Infocus thought the SP5000 was better than the SP5700 - don't you think they would have charged more for it - rather than half as much?

Thanks for the reply. The 5700 is on its way! I cant wait to get it, since I am sitting here watching tv on a 20 inch tube right now. Its just not right........

Well, I was getting the 5700 overnighted, and it was supposed to ship yesterday. I called infocus yesterday and was told it shipped, but they did not yet have a tracking number. I called today and was told it was on backorder until the 5th and was then transfered to tech support. I was then told by them it was shipped on the 28th and still could not get a tracking number yet. WTF is wrong with Infocus? Its bad enough that I have to keep asking for the person to repeat themselves since they speak broken english, but does this company have a clue?? I was expecting to be up and running, but all I can do is wait. I just want a definative date on when it will get here. They had no trouble charging my credit card..........

I am looking for some help with an issue I am having with my Infocus screen play 5700. I went down into the theater to watch a movie tonight and when I went to turn on the projector nothing happened. The LED light was solid green but the projector would not fire. I actually unplugged the projector for a while all I got was a faint blinking green LED. Now the LED does not light at all. Does anybody have any suggestions? If I am looking at a new bulb, would I be better in the long run to get a new projector. I didn't think I had that many hours on the lamp but I could have been wrong. I have had the projector since April of 2004. I look forward to anyones advice and help on my issue.

Did you ever get your SP5700 fixed? Ours just did the same thing for the SECOND time. First time was just 11 months ago. InFocus won't fix it again without charging another $588.00 even though they fixed it less than a year ago. It's not the lamp. Brand new lamp.

my projector doesnt seem to start.....its a screenplay 5700, worked amazingly, crystal clear, easy to use...but when recently updating the graphics driver on my computer (ati radeon xsomethinghundred) the monitor shifted to the no signal screen and stopped responding to all the buttons on the top panel (power, resize, source..etc.). i unplugged it and then repluged it. the fan will run for a second, and the power led is solid green. it will not turn on when the power button is pressed. the lamp was not too old, a couple hundred hours tops. ive removed the lamp and its the same story, put it back in....same. the manual says that there would be a red led if it found a problem. any thoughts of what happened and/or what i could do about it. it is no longer under warranty. pls help!

Seems to be a pretty common problem. Did you ever get any satisfaction from InFocus after your SP5700 "died" ? You also describe exactly what has happened to our unit twice now.

Did you ever get your SP5700 fixed? Ours just did the same thing for the SECOND time. First time was just 11 months ago. InFocus won't fix it again without charging another $588.00 even though they fixed it less than a year ago. It's not the lamp. Brand new lamp.

Rica,

What was the issue that InFocus had to fix? Mine has just done something very similar (although I get a dim green light - it won't turn on or flash any codes).

Thanks,

Paul

Rica,

What was the issue that InFocus had to fix? Mine has just done something very similar (although I get a dim green light - it won't turn on or flash any codes).

Thanks,

Paul


Paul,
Just that. Go to turn it on one day and nothing happens. No "ping" , just a bit of flickering of the on button, but no lamp. No real fan action either. They're spinning, but real slowly.
Had InFocus fix it last May. Their standard "major repair" fee is $518 plus $30 shipping plus tax. Just happened again this month, less than a year since we got it back and they want another $548 to fix it again.
Rick