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mikey h
04-23-09, 06:06 PM
Wow...four posts in on day. I thought that no one cared anymore about our little area. It does seem ridiculous that we can't yet get reliable HD service from the major network channels given the delivery options that we have.

However, I am thankful that we have an insider like FOX44CE that is trying to do the best that he can with his available resources, and he keeps us posted beyond the call of duty.

jagouar
04-23-09, 08:37 PM
All of my issues are via Suddenlink. I had heard KRHD has a fiber link to Suddenlink. If that is true, then there is no excuse for the distortion that is on the audio. There is also no excuse for improper/late switching from SD to HD or in some cases, never switching back to HD after commercials. How long has HD been out now and they still can't get it right? I suspect that the OTA feed of KXXV in Waco is probably better than our KRHD feed but I have no way to compare.

KCEN used to be problem free for me too, but lately you can hear the audio being overdriven on a few shows. Something is not quite right.

KRHD could fix their problems if they put a little effort into it.
Its possible it could be an area issue.... because the past 6 months I havent had any problems at all with my feeds.

But I am getting the feeds via clear qam and using media center not any suddenlink boxes.

Jonnyb99
04-24-09, 09:49 AM
I guess I'll throw my 2 cents worth in as well. I've been here nearly 12 years. I started my HD experience with VOOM, went to E* when VOOM died (which was a big mistake), and then quickly switched to D*. I've been with D* for over 4 years now and I have been very pleased. I too have 'moved' to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and the local channel performance is great. I receive KBTX, KAMU, and KYLE reliably and I do watch them from time to time. In my opinion, KAMU has been the most reliable for years. KBTX is a close second, and within the last few months, KYLE has come a long way. Also, in my opinion, if you don't want to deal with the hassle of unreliable locals, dump Suddenlink and go with D*. I haven't had good experiences with cable companies. Plus, they are expensive (IMO). Anyway, I'm not trying to get into a D* vs. E* vs. Suddenlink argument, but I thought I'd chime in. Y'all have a great weekend!

suprememilo
04-28-09, 07:20 PM
I use Suddenlink and the distortion on KRHD is just unacceptable, it was the same way when I live on the A&M campus and I think they had redistributed DirecTV.

WillinBryan
04-29-09, 01:10 PM
KRHD is absolute crap. The transmitter is 12 miles from my house, and it's barely watchable. It does come in in color, but is very snowy. I have a Winegard Sensar GS2200. Since I've moved it from my attic to outside and added their "wingman" accessory, I can now get KXXV-25 (ABC) from Waco 90+% of the time in high-def, but KHRD still looks like garbage.

http://squash.tamu.edu/antenna.jpg

foo00
04-29-09, 07:25 PM
OK, I've had it with SL and their DVRs. I'm ready to jump to DirecTV. But I want all the locals in HD (and not KXXV/KRHD as everyone has already said). So.. if I get it installed and suffer with the true locals for a little bit I can say I'm moving the dish to a Houston address myself. Presto. Great. But I see people saying they're cracking down on this a bit. Opinions on how long I should wait to do it so they don't get snippy and refuse to let me or something? Or is there any other "story" I should go with?

Sorry for the newb-ness, but I haven't used a satellite in 15 years..

dave99ag
04-29-09, 07:38 PM
I wasn't aware of D* cracking down on moving, but maybe so.

My service address is an empty lot adjacent to my in-laws that they own. If D* ever asked, I'd tell them it's a weekend home or something like that. I have never had any hassle though when changing the service address. I did this after my upgrade to the Slimline dish last year right after the installer left.

Jonnyb99
04-29-09, 09:32 PM
I have 'moved' several times over the years. I've been getting DFW locals for over a year now and I love them. I've never had any problem with D* 'cracking down' on me.

Bob Coxner
04-30-09, 10:14 AM
For DirecTV subs the word on DBSTalk is that Waco/Temple/Bryan moves from the 72.5 satellite tomorrow. If you have an older receiver, such as a DirecTivo or Hughes, then you will no longer be able to receive locals. You need an HR20 and above HD DVR, R22 SD DVR or a D10 or above non-DVR receiver.

And, no, there is no problem with "moving". DirecTV doesn't care what you do, they only maintain your service address in order to be in compliance with legal restrictions on THEM, not you.

BohunkAg
05-01-09, 02:11 PM
Has KWKT 44 scaled back their 9 PM newscasts to 5 minutes? When did this happen?

sivartk
05-01-09, 03:45 PM
Has KWKT 44 scaled back their 9 PM newscasts to 5 minutes? When did this happen?

Really? I flipped through the channels at about 9:15PM last night and it was their newscast.

today32
05-01-09, 04:55 PM
And, no, there is no problem with "moving". DirecTV doesn't care what you do, they only maintain your service address in order to be in compliance with legal restrictions on THEM, not you.

Is there anything legal that states that you have to reside at your service address?

Bob Coxner
05-02-09, 10:12 AM
Really? I flipped through the channels at about 9:15PM last night and it was their newscast.

At 9:05 they switched to Everybody Loves Raymond.

Bob Coxner
05-02-09, 10:31 AM
Is there anything legal that states that you have to reside at your service address?

No. No laws relate to the individual.

There is a legal restriction on the satellite company that requires them to make a reasonable effort to verify service addresses. In DirecTV's case this means checking the address you give them against a postal service database of addresses (no personal names, though). If the address is bogus, such as 111111 Hunky Da Dory Lane, then they won't accept it. However, a valid address with an apartment number (where there is no apartment) will not be rejected by the database check. As long as you pay your bill DirecTV doesn't give a rat's butt where you claim to live. They do the minimum required by the law to verify service addresses - meaning they check the database to see if the address you give them is in it. Nothing more.

All of this relates to local channels. Your local stations only want you to be able to watch their broadcasts. They paid to lobby Congress to restrict satellite companies ability to distribute locals widely.

Even if you were discovered, such as a wife accidentally giving the real service address when calling DirecTV for a repair, the worse that would happen is they correct the address in the DirecTV database. There's nothing in the law that requires them to penalize you or stop your service.

Speaking of repairs, the accepted method is to call *before the repair call* and change your service address to the correct address. Then call for repairs. After the repairs are completed, call back and change to the fake service address. The only restriction on changing addresses is that it takes about 24 hours for the change to be reflected in the database. No one at DirecTV cares how often or how many times you change service addresses. You could change every day and no one would say a word. All the CSR does is type whatever you tell them into a database field on their screen. "Why" or "how often" is not a question on their script.

Enjoy!

today32
05-02-09, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the thorough response Bob, it helped!

mikey h
05-02-09, 09:25 PM
I have never followed through with changing my service address in order to get ABC HD through D*, but if I did change to say a Houston address (sister-in-law for example), does this mean that I would no longer get KBTX channel 3? I would only be interested in getting KBTX for the local news.

If changing to a Houston service address means that I loose KBTX, then I would have to resort to getting KBTX OTA, which is not a problem on most of my TVs. However, there are a couple of TVs where I could not receive the OTA ATSC signal.

Currrently I get ABC HD from Waco OTA using the AM21 receiver(s) and DAT75s.

Bob Coxner
05-03-09, 10:08 AM
I have never followed through with changing my service address in order to get ABC HD through D*, but if I did change to say a Houston address (sister-in-law for example), does this mean that I would no longer get KBTX channel 3? I would only be interested in getting KBTX for the local news.

If changing to a Houston service address means that I loose KBTX, then I would have to resort to getting KBTX OTA, which is not a problem on most of my TVs. However, there are a couple of TVs where I could not receive the OTA ATSC signal.

Currrently I get ABC HD from Waco OTA using the AM21 receiver(s) and DAT75s.

If you "move" to Houston you'll get:

NBC KPRC
PBS KUHT
CBS KHOU
ABC KTRK
MNT KTXH
FOX KRIV
AZA KUVM
CW KIAH
UNI KXLN
TMO KTMD
ION KPXB
IND KNWS
IND KZJL
TFT KFTH

BohunkAg
05-04-09, 04:09 PM
Looks like the shortening of the newscast happened last Monday:

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2009/04/28/04282009wacgoodbyeFoxnews.html

We watched it because I enjoyed watching Scott Chesner again, who we used to see on Channel 5 in Dallas with "The World's Greatest Weatherman" Harold Taft and with David Finfrock, but it was a really pared down newscast anyway....broadcast out of Tyler, I believe. The worst part was that I think it was/is taped earlier in the night, so one night when we had severe weather right on top of us, Scott's weather report showed it being about 100 miles west of us.

Dealdoc
05-05-09, 10:24 AM
I am trying to get OTA local in BCS. I live in South College Station in Stone Forest Area. I am using a Monoprice HDA-5700. I have this in my attic and able to pick up KBTX with no issues. Fox 28 and KAMU are hit and miss. I get 50% signal on HR20 and 75% on Fox. Would moving it outside help? Moving the attenna 1 foot in the attic can make a no signal to 50% difference in signal strength. KBTX is fine but on the others I get pixelization from time to time depending on weather or time of day. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Jonnyb99
05-05-09, 01:29 PM
I am trying to get OTA local in BCS. I live in South College Station in Stone Forest Area. I am using a Monoprice HDA-5700. I have this in my attic and able to pick up KBTX with no issues. Fox 28 and KAMU are hit and miss. I get 50% signal on HR20 and 75% on Fox. Would moving it outside help? Moving the attenna 1 foot in the attic can make a no signal to 50% difference in signal strength. KBTX is fine but on the others I get pixelization from time to time depending on weather or time of day. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I'm not familiar with that area or that antenna, but I can tell you that moving it outside should help, especially if you can mount it up high on a pole or your home.

WillinBryan
05-05-09, 05:59 PM
Dealdoc,

I am shocked that you're having problems with Fox and PBS. If CBS/PBS/Fox are the only three channels that you're interested in, you might consider an amplified omni-directional antenna like this one.
http://www.winegarddirect.com/viewitem~d~winegard-ms2000-metrostar-omnidirectional-amplified-tv-antenna-(sms2000)~p~wd-sms2000.htm.

I live in Copperfield in Bryan and have a 98 for signal strength for Fox and an 82 for PBS. My antenna is outside and bi-directional but not aimed at either of those stations.

Moving your antenna outside will help with signal strength.

Dealdoc
05-05-09, 09:57 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I am off of William Fitch and HWY6. Mine is an amplified antenna also. I will mount it outside this weekend and see. I get 90% signal on KBTX, 73% on Fox and 49% on KAMU using the HR20. On the HR23 I get about 10 to 15 better but it is a shorter cable run. I probably have not found the perfect spot. Like I said if I barely move the antenna in the attic it can go from 75% on Fox to 0. KBTX is always good. May be multipath or some reflections. Are there other channels to get locally? The DTV off air tuners only get digital. My TV tuners pick up some analog ones but I want to use the DTV DVRs.

WillinBryan
05-06-09, 01:14 PM
"Are there other channels to get locally?"
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You're next best shot at getting anything is channel 9.1-9.3 KCEN Temple. Their transmitter is in Falls County. You're almost certainly going to need a bigger, outside antenna to get it though. Check out http://www.tvfool.com/ to see what's out there.

I have a Winegard GS2200, amplified antenna with a "wingman" add-on, which boosts UHF gain. I get CBS/PBS/Fox locally, ABC from Waco 90+% of the time, and NBC from Temple about half of nights. I occasionally get PBS and CBS from Waco at night. My house is in a low part of my subdivision, and I suspect that I could do better if it was higher. I also have a lot of trees, which doesn't help.

http://squash.tamu.edu/antenna.jpg

I tried in the Spring of 2008 to find someone to install a "real" antenna for me. I spoke with a guy from Madisonville a couple of times. After about a month of not hearing from him, I called, and his phone was disconnected. I've never put up a mast or used concrete, so I've done as well as I am going to do.

tjw0390
05-07-09, 06:38 PM
I purchased 4 different antennas including the one you listed from monoprice. The monoprice was the worst of the four and I sent it back. I now have the radio shack "ufo" antenna.

Dealdoc
05-11-09, 09:33 PM
Was the UFO good enough to get the locals consistantly? The issue I have with the Monoprice is the signal bounces so much when peaking it.

tjw0390
05-14-09, 12:12 AM
I live close to 29th and Coulter in Bryan. KBTX comes in full signal almost all the time. KAMU never comes in full signal but is very consistent and rarely has issues. KYLE can be flakey sometimes. It will go for days with a full signal and then cut in and out for a few hours sometimes. Does anyone know if ABC and NBC will go digital?

FOX44CE
05-14-09, 02:34 PM
I live close to 29th and Coulter in Bryan. KBTX comes in full signal almost all the time. KAMU never comes in full signal but is very consistent and rarely has issues. KYLE can be flakey sometimes. It will go for days with a full signal and then cut in and out for a few hours sometimes. Does anyone know if ABC and NBC will go digital?

FOX 26 in Houston (FOX O&0) is operating @ 1 Megawatt on channel 27 (digital) until June 12th. Being an lower adjacent channel, they interfere with reception of KYLE (28) periodically.

We monitor KYLE-DT OTA with a quad Scala Yagi array from our studios in Woodway and we see this issue intermittently on the spectrum analyzer.

FOX 26 will be moving the digital to channel 26 on June 12th and the issue should be resolved.

Of course any of you that are receiving KXXV (digital 26) OTA now will be effected by that change unless you have a highly directional antenna.

Jonnyb99
05-14-09, 03:37 PM
Of course any of you that are receiving KXXV (digital 26) OTA now will be effected by that change unless you have a highly directional antenna.

Why would anyone want to watch KXXV? ;)

FOX44CE
05-15-09, 11:42 AM
Why would anyone want to watch KXXV? ;)

Lost, Grey's Anatomy?

Jonnyb99
05-16-09, 10:34 AM
I am definitely a fan of LOST, I was just kidding because everything I hear on this forum about KXXV is that it isn't very good. ;)

cat lady
05-16-09, 03:30 PM
I am definitely a fan of LOST, I was just kidding because everything I hear on this forum about KXXV is that it isn't very good. ;)

If it is not any good, it is because the island wants it that way. It is its destiny... :cool:

rolands1
05-18-09, 11:14 AM
Anybody have an update on KXXV going true HD on D*

cbearmike709
05-18-09, 08:57 PM
I've already IM'ed Fox44CE about this,but why is there lousy reception for 44.1 right now? True,I'm using just regular rabbit-ears for pick-up but for some unforeseen reason their DTV signal has been wonky since last night.:(

sivartk
05-18-09, 09:03 PM
I've already IM'ed Fox44CE about this,but why is there lousy reception for 44.1 right now? True,I'm using just regular rabbit-ears for pick-up but for some unforeseen reason their DTV signal has been wonky since last night.:(

I normally get it at about 70% strength/quality in Round Rock and it has been hit and miss the last couple of days. Must be a signal strength issue.

FOX44CE
05-18-09, 11:02 PM
I normally get it at about 70% strength/quality in Round Rock and it has been hit and miss the last couple of days. Must be a signal strength issue.

KWKT went off the air at 10:45PM last night due to failure of a power supply.

Replacement was flown in counter-to-counter from the manufacturer and installed this evening.

Back on the air at 8:45 PM tonight.

jrcobb
05-19-09, 03:41 PM
Yea I'm not a happy camper, got home last night around 11 went to watch 24 and nadda nothing first thought it was DT again now I find out it was 44
Do you have any plans to rerun last nights episodes for those of us who depend on tivo??

FOX44CE
05-19-09, 04:10 PM
Yea I'm not a happy camper, got home last night around 11 went to watch 24 and nadda nothing first thought it was DT again now I find out it was 44
Do you have any plans to rerun last nights episodes for those of us who depend on tivo??

Last night's episode has been posted for viewing on fox.com.
We requested a re-feed from FOX. They said it is available on the web.

jagouar
05-19-09, 04:46 PM
Has anybody been to premiere cinemas recently? Just wondering because it looks like they may be all digital now. (which was the reason I stopped going there when cinemark was all digital).

EDIT: Sent an email to them and got a reply. They did their digital projection upgrade and it was completed last month so they are a 100% digital theater now. Going to see terminator there thurs so Ill report back what it was like compared to cinemark.

joe rz
05-19-09, 10:23 PM
Has anybody been to premiere cinemas recently? Just wondering because it looks like they may be all digital now. (which was the reason I stopped going there when cinemark was all digital).

EDIT: Sent an email to them and got a reply. They did their digital projection upgrade and it was completed last month so they are a 100% digital theater now. Going to see terminator there thurs so Ill report back what it was like compared to cinemark.


I went to Premiere today to see Star Trek looked and sounded fantastic in DLP. :)

mikey h
05-20-09, 12:59 PM
Well, a gripe about the D* DVR. It seems that frequently there is a one or two minute overlap between programs on different channels. For example, show "one" goes from 7:00PM until 8:01 PM, and show "two" goes from 8:00PM until 9:00 PM. Also assume that I have two other shows set to record back-to-back on a different channel, NBC for example. When you look at the programming guide, it shows "X's" for both show "one" and show "two", and NEITHER ONE records.

It would seem to me that the DVR software should record the conflicting shows with the higher priority show being recorded in its entirety, and then record the other show in its remaining time. However, NEITHER show records. This is very frustrating.

My question is: do you see the same thing happening on your D* DVR with NEITHER conflicting shows recording? Also, do you know of some work-around to this, short of going into the "Manual" record menu, which is a real pain in the A$$ to do?

I looked into the start and stop time customization in the "Manage Recordings" menu, but it does not allow you to END a recording EARLIER or START a show LATER....Just the opposite, which does not solve the problem.

Jonnyb99
05-20-09, 03:53 PM
Well, a gripe about the D* DVR. It seems that frequently there is a one or two minute overlap between programs on different channels. For example, show "one" goes from 7:00PM until 8:01 PM, and show "two" goes from 8:00PM until 9:00 PM. Also assume that I have two other shows set to record back-to-back on a different channel, NBC for example. When you look at the programming guide, it shows "X's" for both show "one" and show "two", and NEITHER ONE records.


I think I'm a little confused. The second show should record no matter what because the DVR has two tuners. I don't record much on my DVR, but I have never had any problems whatsoever with any D* DVRs.

mikey h
05-20-09, 05:36 PM
I think I'm a little confused. The second show should record no matter what because the DVR has two tuners. I don't record much on my DVR, but I have never had any problems whatsoever with any D* DVRs.

Yeah, I know. Let me try to be more clear.

I have the first tuner set to record back-to-back shows that are on the same channel, and they record OK (7-8PM CBS show and 8-9PM CBS show).

However, if I want to record two other shows that have a one minute overlap (7:00PM-8:01PM FOX show & 8:00PM-9:00PM ABC show, for example), then NEITHER of these FOX and ABC shows record. The channel guide shows red "X's" on both of the two shows that overlap by one minute.

Again, the first tuner records the non-conflicting, back-to-back shows OK. Neither of the other two shows record. Seems like at least ONE of the two other shows should record, preferrably the one with the highest priority. Even better, record the higher priority show in its entirety, and then record the lower priority show in the time that is left.

Here is the exact example, from last night, if I remember correctly.

7-8PM NCIS on CBS
8-9PM The Mentalist on CBS

7-8:01PM American Idol on FOX
8:00 - 10PM Dancing with the stars on ABC

NCIS and The Mentalist record OK
Neither American Idol or Dancing records at all (both show red "X's" in the channel guide)

The DVR says that American Idol conflicts with The Mentalist
The DVR says that Dancing conflicts with The Mentalist

Jonnyb99
05-21-09, 10:25 AM
Thanks for the clarification. I understand what you're saying now. My DVR has never NOT recorded something, but I'm not sure if I've ever had a situation like yours. But I definitely see how that would be frustrating. What we need are our East and West coast feeds back so this won't be a problem :) I'll try and create this situation on my DVR and see what happens.

jagouar
05-22-09, 09:06 AM
I went to Premiere today to see Star Trek looked and sounded fantastic in DLP. :)
Just to give an update.... I saw terminator there last night and holy crap has premiere improved. I thought you were bs'ing me about the DLP stuff but right when the movie started they played the DLP trailer (which I believe you are only allowed to do if you actually have a DLP projector). And it did look awesome. The sound has always been better at premiere as well as the seats. Still pretty surprised they skipped digital and went straight to DLP.

I will most definitely be going back there for all my movie watching..... They made a believer out of me.

mikey h
05-22-09, 10:15 AM
Still pretty surprised they skipped digital and went straight to DLP.

I will most definitely be going back there for all my movie watching..... They made a believer out of me.

Isn't DLP just one of several forms of digital projector? What do you mean when you say they skipped digital? In fact, I thought that a three-element DLP (or similar micromirror technology), 2K or 4K projector was the standard for cinema digital projectors.

jagouar
05-22-09, 10:27 AM
You are correct.... DLP is a form of digital projection but its always been considered a step up from all other digital projection systems (atleast to me).

My skipped comment was more aimed at cinemark because cinemark does offer DLP options in many of their theaters but not here. I actually drove all the way up to plano once or twice just to see movies in DLP (this was when they had only 1 DLP capable theater and was one of 2 DLP theaters in TX).

kintantee
05-22-09, 12:10 PM
Dumb question, but the local HD feeds are up and running right?

I got a new router this week and now none of the HD local channels are coming in. I've got a HDHomeRun that I watch through Vista Media Center. I re-ran the setup and signal strength of the channels all show up good, 5 of 5 bars, but the channel itself is just black. Probably my fault, just wanted to check...

jagouar
05-22-09, 12:25 PM
I just checked my system from work and its working now.... the hd feeds via hdhomerun atleast.

kintantee
05-22-09, 01:04 PM
Thanks Jagouar. I figured its probably something I did.

mikey h
05-24-09, 09:28 PM
OK...a couple of other girpes:

1. I just got an email that said that I need to updrade my equipment to continue to get the locals...not surprised at this. However, they said that when I upgrade, that I would no longer get KBTX via satellite. I guess that I will have to go to OTA to get KBTX when I want to watch local news. Not a good thing IMO. I watch KBTX news every night.

2. My OTA antenna is very directional, and when I have it pointed to Waco, my KBTX reception is spotty, so I will have to come up with a different antenna scheme. Maybe point one toward Waco and one toward KBTX, but that will probably compromise my Waco reception. With both double stacked antennas pointed toward Waco, my ABC reception has been better than I thought that I could have hoped for.

3. As it is, they already took my ABC national feed away from me, so I have to resort to getting ABC HD from Waco via OTA. Fortunately, that has been very reliable so far. Plus, D* sent me two OTA receivers (no charge) for my two HR21 DVR recorders. However, this doesn't help me on the other TV's that don't have DVR receivers.

4. So, it looks like that for the time being, that D* is just continuing to make things worse for those that stay in the Bryan market. With the upcoming change, it looks like it will make sense to move to a Houston market now to get ABC HD satellite via D*. I hesitated to do this because I didn't want to loose the KBTX local new on D*. Now it seems to not matter since they are cutting us off anyway.

I read a post somewhere where it is D*' policy to not announce their upcomming policies for providing additional programming/channel feeds. I would surely like to know, however, what there plans are. This might affect my decision to dump D* after 12 years and go to Suddenlink to rid myself of this continuous changing of services crap.

I know that D* offers many more HD channels than Suddenlink, but what matters to me is the ability to get the HD channels that I really want to watch.

Jagouir, I know that you have been a Suddenlink fan for quite a long time now, but where do you stand on the decision between D* and Suddenlink at this point.

Mike

Bob Coxner
05-25-09, 09:40 AM
OK...a couple of other girpes:

1. I just got an email that said that I need to updrade my equipment to continue to get the locals...not surprised at this. However, they said that when I upgrade, that I would no longer get KBTX via satellite. I guess that I will have to go to OTA to get KBTX when I want to watch local news. Not a good thing IMO. I watch KBTX news every night.
Mike

I don't understand about the KBTX bit. I upgraded my equipment and I still get it via satellite. I live near Waco, so I don't really watch it much, but it's there. Also, there's no rational reason why it would be dropped other than a contract dispute.

mikey h
05-25-09, 11:01 AM
I don't understand about the KBTX bit. I upgraded my equipment and I still get it via satellite. I live near Waco, so I don't really watch it much, but it's there. Also, there's no rational reason why it would be dropped other than a contract dispute.

My guess is the you still have the 72.5 dish, which is still receiving the KBTX feed. When they de-commission the 72.5, I'm guessing that this is when we will loose KBTX. I guess that they don't have the space on the "new" satellite to waste on KBTX.

kintantee
05-25-09, 11:43 AM
I just checked my system from work and its working now.... the hd feeds via hdhomerun atleast.
Working now, just had to repair my installation by running the setup again.

Got it going just in time to watch the last round of the Byron Nelson!

Jonnyb99
05-26-09, 07:43 PM
Hey Mike --

I finally had a situation last night like the one you described last week:

The Bachelorette (7:00-9:02)
Jon and Kate Plus Eight (8:00-9:13)
The Hills (9:00-9:30)

The Bachelorette wouldn't record because it was lower on the priority list than the other two. I completely see what you mean now. I don't know why it wouldn't record at least part of the The Bachelorette.

mikey h
05-26-09, 08:39 PM
Jonnyb...

Did it record The Hills or did it blow that one off too? In my experience, it would have recorder neither of the conflicting shows, but it would have recorded Jon and Kate OK.

Jonnyb99
05-27-09, 09:49 AM
It showed that it would record Jon and Kate and The Hills OK. The Bachelorette was the only one that had an X in the record symbol. However, I manually moved The Hills recording to a later time slot. But even after doing that, I still had to manually re-add The Bachelorette to be recorded. Does that jibberish make sense?

WillinBryan
05-27-09, 09:00 PM
Here is a story on the KBTX/DirecTV situation.
http://www.theeagle.com/local/DirectTV--KBTX-seeking-accord

kdr2002
05-27-09, 10:43 PM
Moving to BCS next week, I really wanted to get Directv instead of cable but without ABC HD and now with KBTX leaving, I'm going to have to get Suddenlink. I really don't want to mess with OTA. From reading the forum it sound spotty at best and then how would I DVR it. I hope Directv eventually gets it together on the HD channels.

Really bummed out. Does suddenlink do Cablecard? I might have to go get a TivoHD to help numb the pain.

kdr2002
05-28-09, 10:37 AM
Got this respone from Directv:
KBTX has not been removed from our lineup and we are in discussions with the station owners regarding the options for offering KBTX on DIRECTV. We'll be broadcasting all local channels in the Waco-Temple-Bryan market from a more advanced (MPEG-4) satellite later this year. We're still determining if we will be offering a second CBS channel in your area (we already carry KWTX). KBTX will still be available with standard definition (MPEG-2) equipment until we transition your locals to the more advanced (MPEG-4) satellite but it is not available on any of our advanced (MPEG-4) equipment.

Also, we are pleased to announce that we've reached an agreement with TiVo to extend our business relationship. This agreement will allow us to continue to support and develop TiVo products for our customers. As part of this agreement we will also be working with TiVo to develop a new HD DVR.

The details of this upcoming HD DVR are still being determined so we don't have all of the specifics yet but we can tell you that the new receiver will have:

Access to over 130 HD Channels
DIRECTV on Demand capability
TiVo's Universal Swivel Search
Tivo's Kidszone

We expect the new receiver to launch in 2010 and we will provide more information as soon as it is available. You can sign up to receive updates about the new TiVo HD DVR at http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/directv-signup.html.
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They never addressed the ABC issue.

elspankdog
06-09-09, 10:16 PM
What's up kids?!!!!! Haven't been here in quite some time. Maybe I should update the first post (although I don't think it has changed that much). Why don't you guys fill me in with the particulars.

One day, we'll be back in B/CS, and I can be a true disgruntled local again. Any of you guys are also welcome to tailgate with my family and me out by Kleberg this year. We should have the short bus painted for this season.

BohunkAg
06-10-09, 03:53 PM
What's up kids?!!!!! Haven't been here in quite some time. Maybe I should update the first post (although I don't think it has changed that much). Why don't you guys fill me in with the particulars.

One day, we'll be back in B/CS, and I can be a true disgruntled local again. Any of you guys are also welcome to tailgate with my family and me out by Kleberg this year. We should have the short bus painted for this season.

Funny how small the Internet world is. :cool:

jagouar
06-10-09, 06:29 PM
What's up kids?!!!!! Haven't been here in quite some time. Maybe I should update the first post (although I don't think it has changed that much). Why don't you guys fill me in with the particulars.

One day, we'll be back in B/CS, and I can be a true disgruntled local again. Any of you guys are also welcome to tailgate with my family and me out by Kleberg this year. We should have the short bus painted for this season.
yeah not much has changed here.... everybody is still waiting on fios.

one of these days we need to have another avs party again.... been a while since we have had one of those.

elmina
06-14-09, 11:26 AM
Both KMAY (23) and KRHD (40) continue to broadcast analog signals here in BCS.

cat lady
06-14-09, 08:32 PM
They are both Low Power stations that WERE NOT affected by the end of analog for FULL POWER television stations.

There has been no mandate from congress as to the end of analog broadcasting for low power stations as of now. It will come in the future.

A last call of sorts has been issued to low powers of June 30 to apply for their in core digital displacement channels so they can move from the out of core channels of 52-69.

Jonnyb99
06-15-09, 02:54 PM
KMAY has applied for flash cut. Channel 23 @ 2.1 KW ERP.


Does this mean they will broadcast in HD or just digital? Thanks in advance for all the info FOX44CE!

arnoldevns
06-15-09, 09:21 PM
I know they don't have to go digital yet, but I think KMAY and KRHD are losing a lot of potential viewers by not being digital right now. So many people have been running out to the store to get a converter box so they can get OTA reception of digital signals. Many (vast majority?) are getting converter boxes that do not have an analog pass through.

Digital is a great equalizer for LPTV stations vs. full power stations. As long as you can get the signal, they look the same. You can't say that for the analog LPTV vs. full power TV.

sivartk
06-15-09, 09:49 PM
I know they don't have to go digital yet, but I think KMAY and KRHD are losing a lot of potential viewers by not being digital right now. So many people have been running out to the store to get a converter box so they can get OTA reception of digital signals. Many (vast majority?) are getting converter boxes that do not have an analog pass through.

Digital is a great equalizer for LPTV stations vs. full power stations. As long as you can get the signal, they look the same. You can't say that for the analog LPTV vs. full power TV.

I think analog pass through is a bunch of hype. If you have a splitter and composite input on your TV there is no reason for analog pass through. I guess if you have an 20+ year old TV that only has RF input it would be useful, but otherwise a splitter is better. If you are channel surfing with the analog pass through you have to turn off the box, not so with the splitter.

Gandalf007
06-18-09, 12:02 AM
Interesting, KMAY claims to be doubling the radius of their coverage area (http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getattachment_exh.cgi?exhibit_id=758516&formid=346&q_num=5110) (attached to their application (http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101311990&formid=346&fac_num=10246)). Note that they claim 15kW analog power, yet the FCC query page lists 5kW. Typo?

I'm not sure they'll actually cover all that area on 2.1kW, but it probably won't be worse than their analog coverage. I know KYLE was hard to receive without at least an attic-mounted antenna when it was only 5kW, so I'm not expecting much (KMAY is on the same tower, right?). The digital-cliff effect could hurt here, since it's pretty easy to get a snowy-but watchable signal on ch. 23 with an indoor antenna around town. I see macroblocking and breakups in viewers' futures...

Looking through the FCC query page, I also see that K47ED (TBN) has a flash-cut application (which was supposedly granted) for 15kW digital. Why do they get 15kW and KMAY only 2.1kW?

WillinBryan
06-18-09, 11:05 AM
So when KMAY goes digital, are we going to get their weather channel (9.2) as well?

My degree is in Meteorology, and I love watching 9.2 and 25.3, but I can't always get them. I wish that 12.3 was better.

mikey h
06-22-09, 08:25 PM
For what it is worth, I just saw a KBTX ad on TV that said "Thanks to all of you that responded to Direct TV, KBTX will continue to be provided by Direct TV." This is a paraphrase of the ad text, but essentially it looks like we won't loose KBTX when they stop using the the 72.5 sat. Yeah....now I won't have to worry about OTA connections for the TVs that I want to watch the news on.

BohunkAg
06-23-09, 02:39 PM
This thing is poorly written, but it appears to be resolved

http://www.kbtx.com/home/misc/47208707.html

KBTX will remain available to DirecTV subscribers. News Three has reached an agreement with the satellite company.

New subscribers and those who "upgraded" to the one dish set-up won't immediately receive KBTX. That's because of an installation delay that must take place before DirecTV can carry our signal. Fiber installation will be completed to deliver a reliable signal to the new DirecTV uplink facility.

Those subscribers with two dishes, will continue to receive News Three as usual until DirecTV discontinues using its old uplink facility, which will happen in the near future.

We want to say thank you to DirecTV, our parent company, Gray Television, and our loyal viewers who expressed their desire to keep watching us.

KBTX General Manager Mike Wright released this statement Monday, "This issue was about making sure over 30,000 homes received news, weather, sports and local information from the Brazos Valley. Advertisers benefit, charitable organizations benefit, all those who count on a strong distribution of their message will benefit, and KBTX is the only media outlet to do that.

Jonnyb99
07-06-09, 04:09 PM
I noticed D* added ESPNU to their choice package. It had previously been offered in their premier package. I think there was one Aggie game on ESPNU last year, although I don't even know if we'll be on TV this year or not ;)

cab1977
07-09-09, 07:48 PM
Hello,
I live in C.S. and subscribe to suddenlink Basic Cable. I seem to have lost all 5 of my cable supplied HD channels *3.1, 12.1, 29.1, NBC and ABC. I repeated a channel scan and did find them anywhere. Has anybody else lost the 5 local HD channels Suddenlink is required to broadcast to basic cable subscribers? Or is there a new law I haven't heard about that no longer requires broadcasting the local HD channels?

Thanks,

Chris

Flyer@Tamu
07-10-09, 10:29 AM
Suddenlink is not required to broadcast in HD. Just to provide the channel which they do.

Same boat, searching now myself.

jagouar
07-10-09, 02:55 PM
Yeah I know Im late to this thread but the channels are all still there... just under new channel locations.

91-720 (KRHDDT)
107-705 (KYLEDT)
107-730 (KCENDT)
98-700 (KAMUDT)
98-710 (KBTXDT)

BTW does anybody know the current price lists for suddenlink internet? Reason I ask is I went to look at suddenlinks website and in our area it lists a 20 mbit service option. Now I doubt I would be interested in that one (because Im sure its expensive) but I was hoping if their top level service is that high now they might have faster speeds in the lower tiers. I have the 8mbit service from them now.... its ok but 8mbit wont be fast enough for me this fall when the new xbox update hits and we get 1080p streaming. (well it technically will be enough but 8mbit is the bare minimum and Id like to have some headroom)

Suddenlink Help
07-10-09, 06:33 PM
Hello,
I live in C.S. and subscribe to suddenlink Basic Cable. I seem to have lost all 5 of my cable supplied HD channels *3.1, 12.1, 29.1, NBC and ABC. I repeated a channel scan and did find them anywhere. Has anybody else lost the 5 local HD channels Suddenlink is required to broadcast to basic cable subscribers? Or is there a new law I haven't heard about that no longer requires broadcasting the local HD channels?

Thanks,

Chris

I am with Suddenlink. The HD Channels did change in your area. You will have to re-scan for channels through your television to pick them up. Keep in mind, different TV's may display channel identification differently. There are some issues regarding KRHD in your area. The station did have someone come in to align the dish but there are some other issues. A temporary change was made to try and curb the fading, however that has caused a separate problem with the audio being out of sync. Rest assured, we have their full attention to the issues we are seeing and hearing and working with them diligently to resolve. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me at tina-AT-suddenlink-DOT-com.

cab1977
07-10-09, 06:57 PM
Thanks for everyones responce. I have manually entered the new channels with no Joy:

91-720 (KRHDDT) 91.720
107-705 (KYLEDT) 28.1
107-730 (KCENDT) 9.1
98-700 (KAMUDT) 12.1
98-710 (KBTXDT) 3.1

I guess my Panasonic Viera TH-42PX60U's QAM tuner is just not up to the task. I know I have had trouble with the 3d sig digit before (ie 107-705)

Flyer@Tamu
07-17-09, 06:12 PM
Try these:
700 98-12-1
705 107-28-1
710 98-3-1
720 91-0-1
730 - 107-9-1

cab1977
07-19-09, 11:09 AM
A quick update on my tuning issues:

I went by the suddenlink office in Bryan and they were very helpful. They explained why it was necessary to "remap?" the channels to gain internet bandwith and I was able to speak with two technical folks. They called me later that evening and helped me through a channel scan....low and behold by that evening I was picking up all 5 local HD channels as before on 3.1, 12.1 9.1 and 28.1 and 0.0. I was getting interference on 3.1 & 12.1 that they thought may be due to an old MTV block I placed on the cable system a few years ago. They will be sending a technician to my home on Monday morning to try to fix the interference issue. I was very impressed by their willingness to help me bring in the local HD channels using my TV's QEM tuner even though I am only a Basic cable subsciber. Thank You SuddenLink.

Chris

Jonnyb99
07-29-09, 01:41 PM
Any of you other D*ers have trouble viewing the Astros on 678-1 last night? I was only getting a blank screen. I finally figured out I could tune it in on the Extra Innings channel (735-1 I think). Just curious (and plus no one has posted to our thread for a while :)).

elspankdog
07-29-09, 02:38 PM
I had no problem watching them last night on 678-1. Of course, I'm in the Houston DMA.

BTW, I got a job back in B/CS so we will eventually be moving back. Dave, I sent a pm to you on texags a while back, but you never responded :(

jagouar
07-29-09, 02:46 PM
who actually pays at texags.... ;) the real question spank is when are you gonna host the next avs party?

cab1977.... I dont suppose you asked them if we are getting speed increases with the channels moving. I was contacted here by a suddenlink employee saying they now had a 20mbit service for $79.95 which while nice is more than I want to pay or need. Hopefully they either bring out a new tier of internet in the 12-15 mbit range or upgrade all of us on the 8mbit service to something higher.

dave99ag
07-29-09, 03:03 PM
Dave, I sent a pm to you on texags a while back, but you never responded :(

I was riding my bike across Iowa last week, so I missed your PM.

That's great you're coming back to Aggieland. Hopefully the drive doesn't put too much stress on you.

elspankdog
07-29-09, 03:17 PM
who actually pays at texags.... ;) the real question spank is when are you gonna host the next avs party?

I enjoy AO, so one star is worth it. I got the second so that my dad could get the MW newsletter (he's quite interweb challenged).

Bob Coxner
07-30-09, 10:21 AM
There seem to be mostly Aggies here but if there are any other Waco viewers I'm wondering if they're having as many problems with KWBU as I am? It's become unwatchable with all the briiiiip sounds, audio dropouts, video freezes and artifacts.

I can get it via DirecTV and over the air. The problems seem to be the same on both, so I assume DirecTV is picking up the same OTA signal as I do.

I know the Fox engineer hangs out here. Maybe he knows the KWBU engineer and can shed some light on this.

Bob Coxner
07-30-09, 10:29 AM
Well, I'll answer my own question. I spoke to the chief engineer at KWBU. He explained they had a major problem with a converter part. They have a new one now and it should be installed in the next day or so. That should get them back with a good signal.

BohunkAg
07-30-09, 12:42 PM
OK, here's a good one for all you Waco/Temple/Bryan folks. For the past 5 years, we've tailgated at A&M games using an old Directv box I brought from home (one of the older generation), and an even older, round dish. It worked last year fine, but we couldn't get the locals because they were on the other dish, so we used rabbit ears.

My question is: now that they've moved the locals to the new location, and changed out my boxes, should I get a 5 LNB dish (the new oval ones) to use at the tailgates, and will that assure me of getting all channels in HD (we didn't have an HDTV for the tailgates in years past, but I don't think we could've gotten HD Channels in the past anyway b/c we had the round dish)?

Trying to figure out whether I should pony up for one of these tailgating kits or not with the "new style" dish:

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Order/Dishes/DirecTV_Tailgate-Satellite-Dish_kits.htm

Bob Coxner
07-30-09, 01:51 PM
OK, here's a good one for all you Waco/Temple/Bryan folks. For the past 5 years, we've tailgated at A&M games using an old Directv box I brought from home (one of the older generation), and an even older, round dish. It worked last year fine, but we couldn't get the locals because they were on the other dish, so we used rabbit ears.

My question is: now that they've moved the locals to the new location, and changed out my boxes, should I get a 5 LNB dish (the new oval ones) to use at the tailgates, and will that assure me of getting all channels in HD (we didn't have an HDTV for the tailgates in years past, but I don't think we could've gotten HD Channels in the past anyway b/c we had the round dish)?

Trying to figure out whether I should pony up for one of these tailgating kits or not with the "new style" dish:

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Order/Dishes/DirecTV_Tailgate-Satellite-Dish_kits.htm

Channels 3 and 25 are not in HD, no matter what dish you use. If that's important to you.

jagouar
07-30-09, 02:49 PM
They are if you "live" in houston or dallas.... course I dont know how difficult it is to move these days.

BohunkAg
07-31-09, 09:09 AM
Yeah, I do know that Bob. It's not that important to me really, so I'm not going to "move" for D* purposes. My question is, do I need the 5-LNB dish? On my program guide now, only the HD channels show on the locals (the SD duplicates still show on the other channels).

I'm thinking I do need the new dish.

Bob Coxner
08-01-09, 12:20 PM
http://www.tech-faq.com/directv-hd-lnb.shtml

Waco/Temple/Bryan locals are now MPEG4.

http://www.solidsignal.com/satellite/directv_dish_antenna_types.asp

Solid Signal is an excellent source for DirecTV info. I would call them before making any decision. 1-866-374-4625

BohunkAg
08-05-09, 10:58 AM
Thanks Bob. Appreciate the info.

Bob Coxner
08-06-09, 09:49 AM
It looks like KWBU-34 managed to get their new part installed. The picture is as good as I can ever remember. Very stable.

BohunkAg
08-10-09, 09:33 AM
Is KXXV in HD on DTV now? The program guide is showing some programs in HD, but I haven't had time to check whether they are broadcasting in HD on there now.

Bob Coxner
08-11-09, 10:23 PM
Is KXXV in HD on DTV now? The program guide is showing some programs in HD, but I haven't had time to check whether they are broadcasting in HD on there now.

The guide is showing HD but it's not.

Bob Coxner
08-12-09, 10:31 AM
Something odd is going on with KXXV and DirecTV. The guide is showing HD for some programs. That's new. My DVR shows I'm receiving a 720p signal. However, the picture is clearly SD. When I switch to over the air, my DVR also shows 720p and the picture is a very nice HD. Either there's a problem with the feed from KXXV or DirecTV is doing something odd on their end.

I called KXXV this morning and the person who answered (not the engineer) said they had been having problems sorting things out with DirecTV. I also sent an email to the engineer.

It does look like we are finally getting closer to having HD on KXXV via DirecTV.

jagouar
08-14-09, 02:16 PM
BTW foxeng.... the cowboys preseason game last night was not hd. Is there some reason it wasnt or was it a one time screwup?

jagouar
08-14-09, 07:45 PM
you might want to give your suddenlink contact a call then because they were sd all night with the exception of a 30 second window at the very beginning of the second half.

jose73
08-22-09, 06:30 AM
Again Friday night during the Cowboys-Titan game the last 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter were in SD. This happened on both Suddenlink 705 and OTA 28.1. It seemed during the first part of the game that after commercial breaks the signal did not come back in HD right away.

Suddenlink Help
08-24-09, 10:02 AM
Again Friday night during the Cowboys-Titan game the last 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter were in SD. This happened on both Suddenlink 705 and OTA 28.1. It seemed during the first part of the game that after commercial breaks the signal did not come back in HD right away.

Hi Jose73,

You may want to direct your observation to FOX44CE... They replied to a similar issue a few days prior here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=17043406&postcount=6105

Bob Coxner
08-24-09, 10:52 AM
OK, here's a good one for all you Waco/Temple/Bryan folks. For the past 5 years, we've tailgated at A&M games using an old Directv box I brought from home (one of the older generation), and an even older, round dish. It worked last year fine, but we couldn't get the locals because they were on the other dish, so we used rabbit ears.

My question is: now that they've moved the locals to the new location, and changed out my boxes, should I get a 5 LNB dish (the new oval ones) to use at the tailgates, and will that assure me of getting all channels in HD (we didn't have an HDTV for the tailgates in years past, but I don't think we could've gotten HD Channels in the past anyway b/c we had the round dish)?

Trying to figure out whether I should pony up for one of these tailgating kits or not with the "new style" dish:

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Order/Dishes/DirecTV_Tailgate-Satellite-Dish_kits.htm

If you want another tailgate option, DirecTV has cut the price of their Sat-Go system in half. It's now $499. It's a totally self-contained system (receiver, tv and antenna) in a package about the size of small suitcase. It weighs 27 pounds.

Best Buy carries it. Go to www.bestbuy.com and search for "sat-go"

Solid Signal also has it: http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?prod=Z11

The programming you get with it will be identical to what you get at home. The extra charge is $4.99 per month (like any other mirrored receiver). You can have it turned off (meaning no monthly charge) during times when you don't need it.

cat lady
09-03-09, 06:04 PM
WOW! Waco jumped up 5 spots in the Nielson DMA rankings from the 94th largest DMA to 89! Cool.

hodedofome
09-04-09, 09:21 PM
Is it just me or does the Cowboys preseason games look quite 'soft' on the picture quality? I remember them looking much better last season, all the wide shots look like they are SD. I am watching this via QAM channels from TWC in Waco.

sivartk
09-05-09, 11:53 AM
Is it just me or does the Cowboys preseason games look quite 'soft' on the picture quality? I remember them looking much better last season, all the wide shots look like they are SD. I am watching this via QAM channels from TWC in Waco.

If you were watching on Fox44, it was an SD 16:9 broadcast, so if it looked like SD that is because it was SD. At least the 2.0 sound was okay. In Austin they took the 2.0 sound and tried to expand it to 5.1 and it sounded like listening to the audio through a tin can.

arnoldevns
09-06-09, 12:22 PM
Is it just me or does the Cowboys preseason games look quite 'soft' on the picture quality? I remember them looking much better last season, all the wide shots look like they are SD. I am watching this via QAM channels from TWC in Waco.

You can blame the Cowboys for this one. It appears to me this was an SD 16:9 production from the truck at the stadium. That's the way it appeared on KTVT in the DFW area anyway. Jones should farm out the production of these games to CBS. They produce a lot of very nice HD pre-season games for other teams around the league. (you can see them on NFL Network)

BohunkAg
09-06-09, 12:42 PM
Yesterday, we took our new DirecTV setup to the A&M game to tailgate. We've got an HR-23 receiver and a 5 LNB dish. We aligned the dish the way we used to and had a full signal on satellite 101. I didn't look at any of the other ones, because frankly, we didn't have to before and I didn't think about it until this morning.

We had all of the SD channels, but NOTHING in HD. I thought it might be two things....keep in mind, I know very little about this:

1) Do we need a multiplexer between the dish and the box? I wouldn't imagine so.
2) Which satellite should I be looking for when we are aligning the dish? Maybe we just didn't have that particular satellite tuned it?

I don't imagine it's anything else. I was told the HR-23 did not need the B-band converter deal. Help please!

Bob Coxner
09-07-09, 09:33 AM
Yesterday, we took our new DirecTV setup to the A&M game to tailgate. We've got an HR-23 receiver and a 5 LNB dish. We aligned the dish the way we used to and had a full signal on satellite 101. I didn't look at any of the other ones, because frankly, we didn't have to before and I didn't think about it until this morning.

We had all of the SD channels, but NOTHING in HD. I thought it might be two things....keep in mind, I know very little about this:

1) Do we need a multiplexer between the dish and the box? I wouldn't imagine so.
2) Which satellite should I be looking for when we are aligning the dish? Maybe we just didn't have that particular satellite tuned it?

I don't imagine it's anything else. I was told the HR-23 did not need the B-band converter deal. Help please!

I don't own an HR23, and I'm no expert on it, but I think you need *either* B-band converters *or* an SWM (single wire multiswitch) install. Here is one quote from a technical description of the HR23: "The tuners are BBC / SWM switching, meaning that the BBC (small converter box hooked to the satellite input) is not required. The receiver detects if the conversion is required, or if the users have an SWM switch mechanically."

You could test it in your backyard. DirecTV will send you free BBCs if you call.

The best place to get an expert's answer is the DBSTalk website. The specific forum is http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=112

elspankdog
09-08-09, 11:27 PM
I know the Houston locals are on 103 (http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/directvusa103.html). We had to move our satellite over a little prior to the Oklahoma St game in order to pick up the Houston locals.

Suteru
09-09-09, 08:20 PM
Has anyone else in Waco near TSTC gotten spotty QAM signals from TWC lately? Everything but KWBU HD drops out for me.

It's been in and out, and it is really annoying. :(


edit: This is in WMC7 with a WinTV 950Q

hodedofome
09-10-09, 09:39 AM
Has anyone else in Waco near TSTC gotten spotty QAM signals from TWC lately? Everything but KWBU HD drops out for me.

It's been in and out, and it is really annoying. :(


edit: This is in WMC7 with a WinTV 950Q

I get QAM channels from TWC on my Samsung plasma and while I don't experience any dropouts in Woodway, I do get a garbled mumbling sound fairly often. I suspect it's the tuner in my tv though as my previous Samsung did not have this issue and only started once I got the new one.

Bob Coxner
09-10-09, 11:01 AM
Just a head's up that some experts are predicting the end of clear QAM for locals. Here's a good discussion of the issue:

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=637

It would be interesting to hear Fox44CE's take on this.

BohunkAg
09-11-09, 09:43 AM
Thanks for the response Bob, will try that forum.

Jonnyb99
09-11-09, 12:09 PM
Well, the lamp on my Sony Rear Projection LCD finally burned out last night right before the Titans/Steelers game. I found one online and it will be here tomorrow. Needless to say I was really tempted to purchase a KURO :)

Suteru
09-13-09, 01:04 PM
Aaaand there goes the HD signal for the Cowboys game.

joe rz
09-13-09, 01:22 PM
No HD for the Cowboys game again.

Jonnyb99
09-13-09, 02:28 PM
Aaaand there goes the HD signal for the Cowboys game.

Get the DFW locals via D* and you'll never have to worry about that again.

AgGunner
09-13-09, 02:33 PM
i guess i'm sort of glad that I'm not the only one suffering.

I rushed to get my HT system ready for this game and this happens.

sivartk
09-13-09, 02:40 PM
Aaaand there goes the HD signal for the Cowboys game.

Can you not pick up a Fox station with an antenna (indoor or outdoor), seems like that would be less frustration.

jagouar
09-13-09, 03:09 PM
And just an fyi if you "moved" to houston you would not have the game at all.... CS is actually a pretty good place to be in because we get covered by both houston and dallas (where if you moved to one or the other you get just that one city generally). Not getting the cowboys game at all with h* locals but getting it somewhat via suddenlink on my media center.

Suteru
09-13-09, 09:38 PM
Is it me, or does every time that Rock Band commercial comes on Fox, the feed messes up?

AgGunner
09-13-09, 09:44 PM
Anyone else not getting the local channels in HD with suddenlink?

jagouar
09-13-09, 11:36 PM
mine have been fine all evening.... with the exception of kyle switching back and forth from hd to sd.

Jonnyb99
09-14-09, 10:10 AM
And just an fyi if you "moved" to houston you would not have the game at all

That's why I said get the DFW locals. You're right, B/CS is in a pretty good spot. Assuming all our locals are broadcasting in HD, I can get up to six different games on a Sunday afternoon.

AgGunner
09-14-09, 09:29 PM
this is really weirding me out, FOX is coming in fine now but KBTX is cutting in and out

cat lady
09-15-09, 05:38 PM
this is really weirding me out, FOX is coming in fine now but KBTX is cutting in and out

I would suspect a bad piece of coax somewhere. A bad cable will cause all sorts of weird things to happen... :eek:

AgGunner
09-17-09, 09:10 AM
I got up in the attic and found out that there was an extra 20' of coax on that jack, so I cut that out and added a signal booster to be sure.

All channels are now crystal clear

Jonnyb99
09-21-09, 10:34 AM
Several fringe OTA viewers that were having reception problems with KWKT have contacted us to let us know that receprion is more reliable since we installed the new transmitter. I would appreciate any input from KYLE OTA and Suddenlink viewers whether our HD delivery on KYLE has become more reliable since the installation of the new KWKT transmitter..


I watched most of the Saints/Eagles game yesterday and only had a couple of very minor blips. The HD picture looked great!

jagouar
09-21-09, 12:33 PM
Ill let you know this week..... didnt watch much football over the weekend but now that fall shows are starting to return Ill be watching more fox (starting tonight with house).

BTW are these upgrades when we will start to get 5.1 audio from kyle? (cant remember when that was supposed to happen)

cat lady
09-23-09, 05:51 PM
I have been discussing the possibility of passing embedded Dolby 5.1 when the new FOX Splicer is installed Oct 12th and the KYLE HD switching equipment is re-located to Waco with FOX engineering with the digital STL install.

They say that if I use can convert the HDMI FOX HD output which hs embedded Dolby 5.1 to HD-SDI, I may be able to pass it through my KYLE HD encoder.

If that doesn't work, I will need to purchase a Dolby 5.1 Encoder which would have to be approved at the corporate mangement level.

We shall see :)

Will the new splicer correct the problem that some HDTVs have decoding the CC on FOX network programming? I, and some others that I have heard about, have been having this problem for some time now. Only happens on
FOX network programming. Other programming originating from the same station, such as local programming and sydicated programming is fine. Just the FOX stuff. Maddening.

ibedonc
09-24-09, 09:15 PM
was watching bones on OTA 28.1 (kyle-dt ) had over 90% signal

about 15 / 20 min into show I lost lock , I tried 44.1 , same thing

I have the biggest winegard ant they make @ 106' and I am in burleson county

I am getting CBS stations clear as a bell

can you confirm there was a signal lost at that time ?

I get stations from austin / waco / bryan and even some houston stations

but now at this time no FOX stations

ibedonc
09-24-09, 11:43 PM
it came back , but it is out again

ibedonc
09-25-09, 12:44 AM
I did a few scans (HDHomerun) and I am getting and watching FOX 51 out of Longview

with a sig of 95 , I am 10 miles north of Caldwell , what is that ? about 300 miles ?

jagouar
09-25-09, 11:19 AM
Noticed the same.... it failed about 45 mins in and switched to SD.

btw do we have any suddenlink insiders here? im wondering if suddenlink uses the Copy Control Information (CCI) byte of Copy Freely for media center. with the new quad cablecard tuners from ceton for reasonable prices (rumored) Im thinking about switching back to cable. But I want to be able to copy the shows around and reinstall/upgrade windows over time.

I know fios has their programming open and thats the eventual plan (I will be ready with a quad tuner system for fios) but was gonna use media center for now with suddenlink.

ibedonc
09-25-09, 12:55 PM
hmm , well something was blocking it for me (kyle) and now I see that I am not able to get KWKT no idea how long that was happening , cause did not notice it until I lost kyle , so keye has been interfering with KWKT .

I have KYLE back now with 97% sig.

I was getting KFXK out of longview last night (>80% sig), but now it's sig is under 50% , that must be a atmospheric thing ?

ibedonc
09-25-09, 02:44 PM
All of these reception issues are caused by tropospheric ducting that is prevelant during early spring and early fall.
We will be installing an HD digital microwave link in rearly October that will resolve this problem.

:) , thanks

ibedonc
09-28-09, 08:17 PM
it is 7:17 and house is in SD :( it switched 10 min ago

BLTX1
10-03-09, 01:57 PM
10/2 Dollhouse FOX audio sync issues with KWKT and KYLE. On KWKT my Dolby Digital 5.1 would not stay locked. KYLE stereo track out of sync too.

Jonnyb99
10-05-09, 10:00 AM
10/2 Dollhouse FOX audio sync issues with KWKT and KYLE. On KWKT my Dolby Digital 5.1 would not stay locked. KYLE stereo track out of sync too.

Yeah I noticed this sometime Friday night. The same thing was happening during the Cowboy game yesterday as well.

sivartk
10-05-09, 07:48 PM
I had several phone calls this morning regarding the audio during the Cowboy game yesterday.

Since we pass the FOX HD feed without processing I called FOX about the issue. According to them they have had no other reports.

I called KPEJ (Odessa) and KFXK (Longview) this morning and they both reported calls about the same problem.

I had several audio 'blips' during the Cowboys game on KTBC (Fox7) in Austin. I didn't report it as it seems the normal for their broadcast (or it could be my DTVPal HD DVR).

At least it isn't as bad as CBS was a couple of years ago. About a play or so before an 'update' during the football game the sound would go from 5.1 to 2.0 and then resume 5.1 after the update. That was really annoying.

Suteru
10-07-09, 12:47 AM
Anyone getting ClearQAM through TWC notice the channel changes?

I had to re-scan to pick up my channels again.

hodedofome
10-07-09, 09:01 AM
Anyone getting ClearQAM through TWC notice the channel changes?

I had to re-scan to pick up my channels again.

I use QAM w/ TWC in Waco, and I have not had to rescan for my channels since I started using it over a year ago.

hodedofome
10-09-09, 09:53 PM
I've been using it for over a year and mine haven't changed either.

Update 10/09/09:

Time Warner rebuit their multiplex attempting to relocated the clear QAM channels to their cable box channels.

In the process several things happened that were not so very good:

All three PBS channels (KWBU) got lost in the 95s.
KWTX-CWHD did not get mapped to 1008 (or anywhere)

A significent number of Explorer HD DVRs (including mine) came up unauthorized.

I have been without cable now for two days after several attempts to reset it from the Austin Office.

They tell me that it may be several more days before they are able to get to my house to replace the DVR.

I went to the office yesterday afternoon and they have no DVRs in stock.

That really sux dude. I must have spoken too soon, as I tried to watch tv last night but had to re-scan for the channels, and they are as you have said. I am able to get the CW network on channel 165. I am also able to get telemundo and some other junk that I wasn't able to get via QAM before. Every now and again I'd get HGTVHD or FoodHD or something like that and it would work for a few minutes to a few hours then go away, but I haven't been able to pick up those channels yet.

joe rz
10-11-09, 10:25 AM
Passed by Suddenlink in Bryan their sign says NFL Network coming soon.:D

nsandera
10-12-09, 03:55 PM
Hey everybody,

I live in College Station and have been receiving all the local channels through QAM with my HVR-1800. I went to watch the Florida/LSU game this weekend and noticed that i was no longer receiving KBTX via the QAM signal. I did some poking around and saw that I was also not receiving KAMU. Just wondering if anybody else has noticed this. I know that KBTX QAM worked Friday night because Numb3rs recorded fine.

Thanks

jagouar
10-12-09, 05:30 PM
Passed by Suddenlink in Bryan their sign says NFL Network coming soon.:D

That will be a nice one to add but they REALLY need to get comedy central HD before I switch back.

They already have most of the channels I need but I want comedy central for the south park episodes which air in HD now. They add that and the ceton cablecard tuners actually cost $3-400 for a quad tuner and I'll switch back. But to be fair its so I can start using media center for everything again waiting for fios to arrive (since they use the same cablecard tech as the cable companies do)

suprememilo
10-13-09, 08:47 PM
Fox HD on Suddenlink is not in HD tonight on the Hell's Kitchen season finale, and last night this channel was hicuping.

suprememilo
10-13-09, 10:09 PM
Hey everybody,

I live in College Station and have been receiving all the local channels through QAM with my HVR-1800. I went to watch the Florida/LSU game this weekend and noticed that i was no longer receiving KBTX via the QAM signal. I did some poking around and saw that I was also not receiving KAMU. Just wondering if anybody else has noticed this. I know that KBTX QAM worked Friday night because Numb3rs recorded fine.

Thanks

Both work fine for me.

rolands1
10-27-09, 11:15 AM
Is KXXV ever going to go HD on Direct?

Gandalf007
11-07-09, 01:16 AM
What happened to this thread? There was a page 206 last time I looked.

Apparently KMAY (NBC 23) is now broadcasting in digital, although none of the guide data, CC, and the like is there. It is the local 23 feed, and not just a rebroadcast of KCEN (although admittedly, the "local" feed just overlays the "23" bug and show local ads). It's also pretty low-power, about like how FOX 28 was before they upped the power (speaking of which, wasn't that digital microwave link from Waco to Bryan supposed to be installed by now?). I'm gonna need a better antenna to watch NBC without dropouts.

Also, widescreen content (network shows) don't fill the screen like they should. 23-1 is apparently 16:9 1080i, but widescreen shows are windowboxed (letterboxed inside a 4:3 pillarbox). At least 4:3 stuff (like local news) is only pillarboxed, as it should be. I can't receive KCEN 9-1 here, but surely they don't have this problem too?

There's also a 23-2 showing MYTX this TV, whatever that is (presumably it's the same as 9-2).

Now, if only ABC would get on the ball with HD. Given past history, I'm not holding out much hope for that happening any time soon, but I wouldn't mind being pleasantly surprised!